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00:12.25 | RichiH | am i missing a package, has teh functionality been removed (maybe as part of migrating to akonadi), etc? |
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00:46.25 | necroforest | Can you view the "negative" of a document? I have a black-on-white paper i'm reading and want to swap it to white-on-black (or grey on black) |
00:46.30 | necroforest | err, in Okular |
00:46.50 | pinotree | necroforest: see in the accessibility settings |
00:47.54 | DoctorPepper | can any one please help i having an issue with knetworkmanger refuse to work and giving me the following message : Network management disabled |
00:49.02 | DoctorPepper | and my network manager service seems to be running |
00:49.06 | necroforest | pinotree, ah. thanks. I knew it was in there somewhere. |
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00:49.55 | seniorake | could one please tell me what command is being executed within kcontrol when entering that one options window where fonts are being managed? I mean the looknfeel, it is about KDE 3(.5) |
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00:50.50 | seniorake | I'm asking because I have no options what so ever in kcontrol |
00:51.08 | seniorake | because this has been installed via an unclean way, but I've got all kde3 binaries available |
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01:39.10 | cjae | Hi, sorry to ask but I cant seem to get it, I deleted my kdewallet since I had forgotten the password to send and check mail, I do not want to have to store my pop password with kmail, how do I re-enable kwallet with kontact? |
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01:40.31 | cjae | I created a new wallet "My Wallet" and set it in kde control module |
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01:41.16 | cjae | and logged out & in |
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01:43.53 | cjae | Installed: 4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2 |
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03:04.30 | Timbauns | *a |
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07:09.27 | gnu_d | Hi, I'm making some program in pyqt, but in the current version of it, there is no get theme icons in it, and I don't want to wait for the new version to get stable, so what I need is to parse the current theme icons path, where is the current theme, in which conf file in KDE ? |
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07:10.58 | pingupingu | because I can see there is only kwyboard binding ctrl+F8 |
07:11.31 | pingupingu | any ideas? |
07:11.41 | gnu_d | pingupingu: what's expose ? |
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07:12.08 | rrix | gnu_d: ask about pyqt in either #kde-devel or #qt |
07:12.11 | pingupingu | gnu_d, i mean desktop-grid |
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07:13.24 | gnu_d | rrix: I'm asking here because they failed to provide an answer cause there isn't any possible way, so I want to ask here where is the conf file which is KDE related question. |
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07:14.54 | rrix | right, but this channel isn't going to get you any answer for kde development questions :) |
07:15.04 | rrix | this is general support for user queries. |
07:15.43 | gnu_d | rrix: the question isn't about developing, it's just a simple question of where the f* is some conf file located, nothing advanced. |
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07:19.49 | Jucato | pingupingu: System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges |
07:20.52 | pingupingu | Jucato, I know that, but there are extra buttons on the mouse, that I want to map to ctrl+f8 |
07:20.56 | pingupingu | :) |
07:22.42 | pingupingu | Because rightclick on dekstop->desktopactivity settings-> mouse actions -> add actions; allows me add the mouse button, but there is no option to map it to ctrl+f8 as there is limited options |
07:22.55 | rrix | pingupingu: I did that with xmodmap once... man will help you better with it thanI can though :^) |
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07:23.54 | pingupingu | the strange thing is i dont know why there is distinction between action type, they should allow either kb or mouse |
07:25.49 | pingupingu | inconvenient and mouse has extra buttons |
07:25.51 | pingupingu | :) |
07:27.11 | gnu_d | rrix: I found the conf file, it's located in: ~/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals under [Icons] :D |
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07:30.42 | Torch | pingupingu: http://hanswchen.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/mouse-shortcuts-with-xbindkeys/ |
07:31.22 | rrix | gnu_d: yes, and /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdeglobals |
07:31.44 | rrix | my user's kdeglobal's didn't have it, only the global one :) |
07:31.57 | pingupingu | ah Torch nice one :) thanks |
07:32.28 | rrix | I said xmodmap didn't I? Oops, enough support for tonight. |
07:32.34 | rrix | idles in cafe |
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07:34.40 | pingupingu | lol rrix |
07:34.52 | rrix | win 24 |
07:35.07 | rrix | this is why I don't idle in here, I get more dumb as the night goes on, and give bad advice :( |
07:38.38 | pingupingu | qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin org.kde.KWin.loadedEffects kwin4_effect_desktopgrid |
07:38.48 | pingupingu | Invalid number of parameters |
07:38.51 | pingupingu | is what i get |
07:38.55 | pingupingu | doh |
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07:42.28 | Torch | pingupingu: this call lists the effects |
07:42.36 | Torch | pingupingu: it doesn't expect an argument |
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07:50.35 | pingupingu | Torch, I dont see any way of actually executing the kwin4_effect_desktopgrid |
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07:50.58 | Torch | pingupingu: i don't, either. i'm investigating, but so far without success. |
07:51.18 | Torch | pingupingu: you can toggle the dashboard, though. that's what i do with my extra mouse button. |
07:51.31 | Torch | qdbus org.kde.plasma-desktop /App toggleDashboard |
07:52.29 | pingupingu | yeah that works, but not what i wanted |
07:54.48 | shadeslayer | any ideas why nepomuk takes up 70pc CPU at startup,effectively killing my desktop? |
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08:01.50 | pingupingu | btw How hard is it to write a dbus interface for that ? |
08:02.22 | Torch | pingupingu: you can't just write these on your own. they're part of the application. |
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08:02.59 | pingupingu | i mean programming it onto the app :) |
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08:03.28 | Torch | pingupingu: not that hard, especially if the general infrastructure for dbus calls is already set up. |
08:03.41 | pingupingu | any Doco around? |
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08:04.21 | pingupingu | i am really liking the dbus if, conteol amarok from konsole :) superkool |
08:04.27 | Torch | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Introduction |
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08:06.30 | pingupingu | ok decent overview |
08:07.07 | pingupingu | if its not tomuch of a hassle for more than an evening of hacking, i will try to give it a shot |
08:07.45 | Torch | pingupingu: you might want to join #kde-devel or #kwin for that |
08:08.03 | pingupingu | yeah, i was just about ti |
08:08.14 | pingupingu | s/ti/to |
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08:10.50 | Torch | pingupingu: hmm, the blog i gave you the link does explain a way to bind the mouse key to expose, though |
08:11.15 | pingupingu | Torch, yeah but I would really expect a dbus for it |
08:12.04 | pingupingu | btw Torch where is the src for the dbus stuff for kwin? |
08:13.16 | Torch | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/kwin/org.kde.KWin.xml?revision=955636&view=markup |
08:13.29 | pingupingu | yeah i found that |
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08:14.52 | pingupingu | but where is the mapping to the actual method ? |
08:15.12 | pingupingu | bah method name right above |
08:16.59 | pingupingu | workspace.cpp:1485:void Workspace::nextDesktop() i think thats the method mapped to the dbus signal for nextDesktop |
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08:19.48 | jimtendo | Anyone able to link me to somewhere that could explain how to go about creating a new access protocol for konqueror/dolphin? I want to see what would be involved in supporting opening an iso file (e.g. "iso://pathtoiso/folderiniso)") |
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08:20.29 | Torch | jimtendo: you want to write a kio slave then |
08:20.43 | Torch | jimtendo: there's probably a tutorial on techbase. |
08:20.47 | St0n3-C0l | One problem...I was working on a text file on Kwrite...power interrupted and my pc rebooted.. |
08:21.01 | St0n3-C0l | after rebooting...i opened the file and it showed up and I went to save it |
08:21.10 | jimtendo | KIO slave, will check it out. |
08:21.12 | jimtendo | Thanks Torch |
08:21.29 | St0n3-C0l | It said...you don't have writing permissions...it was on a vfat partition and I do have writing permission on it because before that it was happening...i rebooted again |
08:21.33 | St0n3-C0l | And now what do I see/ |
08:21.37 | St0n3-C0l | that file is empty.. |
08:21.54 | St0n3-C0l | PLEASE HELP ME...any help on getting the file back? It's my hours hours of work.. |
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08:22.46 | pingupingu | St0n3-C0l, see if there is a .filename or file.swp ? |
08:22.54 | St0n3-C0l | where? |
08:22.55 | Torch | St0n3-C0l: if your file system got corrupted due to an unclean shutdown, no one can help you. |
08:23.19 | pingupingu | in the dir where your file originally existed and /tmp |
08:23.39 | St0n3-C0l | Torch: It isn't damn corrupted, I was working on Linux...how come that only file got messed up? |
08:23.52 | St0n3-C0l | Nope pingupingu...even hidden files is enabled. |
08:24.08 | St0n3-C0l | That never happened with other DE I've worked on. NEVER |
08:24.19 | Torch | St0n3-C0l: this has absolutely nothing to do with KDE |
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08:24.35 | St0n3-C0l | Not sure... |
08:24.46 | St0n3-C0l | Just when I began to think that my this work is getting done.. |
08:24.52 | St0n3-C0l | it got corrupted dang. |
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08:27.23 | St0n3-C0l | brb |
08:27.28 | St0n3-C0l | Let me try few options |
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08:36.06 | GNU\colossus | what's the "KSSL Daemon Module" in System Settings â Advanced â KDE Service COnfiguration |
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08:41.37 | Torch | GNU\colossus: it's part of KDE's ssl certificate handling |
08:44.31 | GNU\colossus | Torch: and what does it do? |
08:45.46 | Torch | GNU\colossus: take care of ssl certificates, what else? i don't understand the question. |
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08:46.12 | GNU\colossus | Torch: well, it's not running for me, yet I'm still able to add SSL Certificate expections in KDE apps, etc. |
08:47.01 | Torch | GNU\colossus: as far as i understand the situation, kde4 still has some ... inconsitencies when it comes to ssl certificate handling |
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08:47.36 | pingupingu | Torch, found the function to call DesktopGridEffect::toggle(), now need to have a look at dbus codes |
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08:49.53 | voidprayer | Arr, I feel a little laggy now. How can I know what is the problem? KDE 4.3.4 Gentoo. |
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08:52.31 | voidprayer | Phenomenon: I right-click on the desktop and the menu appear after about 0.5 second. |
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08:52.57 | voidprayer | Core Duo T2050, I think it is fast enough. Intel GM945 |
08:53.02 | voidprayer | Laptop |
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08:59.20 | Name1ess|ZzZz | Distro: Debian Lenny Desktop: KDE 3.5.10 Question: Which package in KDE is equivalent to the Evolution package for the GNOME desktop environment? |
08:59.23 | St0n3-C0l | guys...any tip?? |
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08:59.47 | St0n3-C0l | I mean....any tip on how to recover file...the filesystem is okay..I am on windows now and I think it would be recoverable since it just got deleted. |
08:59.55 | St0n3-C0l | I am already trying data recovery apps |
09:00.32 | Torch | Name1ess: if you want a mail app, this is kmail for KDE. the integrated stuff (with organizer, address book and more) would be kontact. |
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09:01.01 | Name1ess | Torch: that's what I was thinking - just wanted to ask in case I was missing something obvious. Thanks. |
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09:03.00 | voidprayer | Name1ess: Kontact |
09:03.04 | voidprayer | ... |
09:03.07 | voidprayer | late. |
09:03.14 | Name1ess | lol thx anyway ?:) |
09:03.22 | Name1ess | :)* |
09:03.33 | voidprayer | St0n3-C0l: recover file? |
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09:04.16 | St0n3-C0l | voidprayer: I was working on Kwrite...and then power interrupted and pc rebooted...i came back and accessed thefile it was fine. Kwrite said I don't have write access to the file. |
09:04.33 | St0n3-C0l | But I know I had...so I rebooted again and when I opened the file..it was blank |
09:04.42 | voidprayer | ... |
09:04.49 | voidprayer | Sorry, I've no idea. |
09:05.31 | Torch | St0n3-C0l: really, this is not an issue for #kde |
09:05.48 | Torch | St0n3-C0l: ask on your distro channel or any windows support channel |
09:06.23 | voidprayer | St0n3-C0l: Windows? |
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09:40.11 | RichiH | various websites imply that akregator can sync with google reader, yet there is nothing in akregator's settings |
09:40.26 | RichiH | am i missing a package, has the functionality been removed (maybe as part of migrating to akonadi), etc? |
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09:41.22 | RichiH | fwiw, i installed akonadi-kde-resource-googledata on debian, but unless that only works after restarting KDE (or my session), that wasn't what i needed to do. i _did_ restart the akonadi server via its console, though |
09:41.51 | RichiH | also of note is that there is not even a section called 'online readers' in its settings |
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09:44.21 | Torch | RichiH: which web sites would that be? |
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09:51.49 | pat|nG | is there any ways to get back my panel to it's default settings? |
09:51.56 | pat|nG | i accidentally close it |
09:52.06 | pat|nG | and now i'm in total freak-out |
09:52.07 | pat|nG | :D |
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09:52.37 | Torch | pat|nG: you could delete plasma's config file. then plasma would restore the default panel. you'd lose all other plasma settings too, though (widgets on the desktop, for example) |
09:53.02 | pat|nG | it's awkie |
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09:53.06 | pat|nG | but how can i do it? |
09:53.19 | pat|nG | i'm new to distros and kde stuffs |
09:53.22 | pat|nG | still learnin |
09:53.24 | pat|nG | ;) |
09:53.58 | RichiH | Torch: for example http://nowwhatthe.blogspot.com/2009/01/akregator.html |
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09:54.39 | Woosta | I have a list of servers I want to open an ssh connection to. One per tab in konsole. I'm initially thought `konsole --new-tab -e "ssh foo.bar"` would be it, but -e ssh doesn't seem to work. I need a shell? What's the best way to achieve what I want? |
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09:55.05 | Torch | pat|nG: move away (or delete) the files $HOME/.kde/share/config/plasma* (if $HOME/.kde is your kde home) |
09:56.44 | Torch | RichiH: you mean that random anonymous comment, not jos' blog entry, right? |
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10:00.00 | Torch | Woosta: this works for me: $ konsole --hold --new-tab -e ssh <servername> |
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10:00.29 | Torch | Woosta: even without the --hold |
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10:00.53 | Torch | Woosta: lose the quotes, i guess. |
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10:06.51 | Kwpolska | WAAAH! |
10:07.01 | Torch | RichiH: look here: http://lists.kde.org/?t=120337493200003&r=1&w=2 |
10:07.08 | Kwpolska | Right-click menu won't work on folder view! |
10:08.02 | Torch | RichiH: apparently there was some initial development done on that feature but it was not finished. -- see also: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189016 |
10:08.28 | Torch | Kwpolska: why not? |
10:08.29 | Woosta | thanks Torch .. I'll give it a go |
10:08.54 | Kwpolska | Torch: i'm not a developer and don't know why. but right-clicking doing nothing. |
10:08.58 | Kwpolska | aah, 4.4 rc1. |
10:09.19 | jimtendo | Is anyone able to point me to where the fish:/, sftp:/ and smb:/ would be kept on the KDE SVN? I've found the main KIO Slaves here http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kioslave/ but can't find the others. |
10:10.35 | Torch | jimtendo: kdebase/runtime/kioslave |
10:11.33 | jimtendo | Cheers Torch |
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10:14.02 | pat|nG | torch: bro, is there any support for kde compizfusion? |
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10:15.23 | Torch | pat|nG: afaik you can run compiz as window manager. i haven't tried it though. |
10:16.00 | Kwpolska | where I have to put comics for plasma? |
10:17.50 | Torch | Kwpolska: you're talking about the comic strip widget? what question do you have? |
10:18.07 | Kwpolska | where i have to put comics |
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10:18.34 | Torch | Kwpolska: the widget gets them online. you need to configure it first. |
10:18.46 | Kwpolska | when I'm trying to it crashes |
10:19.01 | Torch | Kwpolska: hmm. folder view broken for you, comic strip widget too.. that sounds bad. |
10:19.14 | Kwpolska | kde 4.4 is unstable, i know |
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10:22.30 | pat|nG | Torch: wat do u mean afaik? |
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10:23.46 | Torch | pat|nG: as far as i know. i can't personally confirm it from experience. |
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10:37.14 | Kwpolska | ehh, and new problem: folder view widget won't store it's position |
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10:39.58 | Kwpolska | workaround found. but, |
10:40.09 | Kwpolska | where the comic strip widget have it's comic files stored? |
10:41.42 | Kwpolska | hmm, idiotic |
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10:47.03 | Kwpolska | anyone knows there where comic strip stores comic files/ |
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10:58.08 | QwertyM | Kwpolska: you mean the cached images? |
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10:58.44 | Kwpolska | no |
10:58.58 | Kwpolska | the files for comic av. in the box |
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10:59.25 | QwertyM | Kwpolska: ~/ .kde/share/apps/plasma_engine_comic/ (zip files and conf files are in there) |
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11:01.23 | Kwpolska | putting .comic wont work |
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11:02.59 | QwertyM | Kwpolska: you want to install a .comic plasma file? |
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11:03.14 | QwertyM | Kwpolska: plasmapkg -t comic -i <filename> |
11:03.37 | QwertyM | (type comic, install filename) |
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11:16.06 | hadez | hi there, i'm using kmail 1.12.3 / KDE 4.3.2 on ubuntu karmic. gpg 1.4.2 / gpgsm 2.0.12 are selected under crypto backends -- every time i try to sign or encrypt a mail it goes through every step except asking for my passphrase and then complains that the passphase (i never entered) is invalid -- does anyone have any idea as to why that is? |
11:16.44 | RichiH | Torch: pity, but thanks :) |
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11:18.42 | cousin_mario | hello |
11:19.09 | cousin_mario | how do I save the settings for each object on the screen? |
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11:26.55 | axtroz | hey everyone |
11:27.03 | axtroz | is it just me |
11:27.17 | axtroz | or KDE 4.4 from svn branches a bit unstable? |
11:27.32 | axtroz | i mean when i open dolphin and dont touch the PC at all after a few minutes it just crashes |
11:27.53 | Kwpolska | rc1? it crashes, unstable |
11:28.12 | axtroz | also i get random crashes on plasma-desktop when changing the workspace style (from air to oxygen and etc) |
11:28.34 | axtroz | ah |
11:28.36 | axtroz | i see |
11:28.50 | axtroz | i though when something gets to branches is usable :> |
11:29.04 | axtroz | okay, thanks for clearing that out :) |
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11:29.57 | muep__ | in my experience, the rc versions are usually at least close to usable |
11:30.22 | Kwpolska | it does, but not everytime |
11:30.47 | QwertyM | rc2 should be good, much fixed in it |
11:31.01 | Kwpolska | who needs rc2 here |
11:31.20 | muep__ | shouldn't the 4.4 branch from svn be pretty close to rc2? |
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11:42.38 | jimtendo | Does KDE provide a file system abstraction library? Or should the system's native methods be used? |
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11:46.08 | jimtendo | Nevermind the above, I think I've found it. |
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12:27.51 | Torch | muep__: yes, it's probably mostly the same code. |
12:28.05 | Torch | muep__: make sure you get qt 4.6.1, though. 4.6.0 is known to cause a lot of crashes. |
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12:28.36 | muep__ | I just updated to 4.6.1, though it seemed to work quite crash-free with 4.6.0, too |
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12:29.53 | muep__ | but I mostly have to KDE copy to translate some strings, so I have not really used it much outside a few select programs |
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12:33.28 | tdgs | hello |
12:33.31 | tdgs | anyone experiencing problems with kaddressbook in kde 4.4 (kubuntu 9.10)? Here, I can see no menu entries in File, View etc. Any ideas? |
12:33.51 | tdgs | i really wanted the akonadi support to sync with google contacts |
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12:33.55 | tdgs | so I updates |
12:33.58 | tdgs | updated |
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12:38.30 | Torch | tdgs: screen shot? |
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12:40.55 | tdgs | wait |
12:40.57 | tdgs | oh |
12:41.02 | tdgs | problem solved |
12:41.13 | tdgs | i erased ~/.kde/share/apps/kaddressbook |
12:41.17 | tdgs | and restart the application |
12:41.26 | tdgs | thx anyway |
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13:08.21 | eshat | Does kopete support webcam for MSN/Windows Live ??? |
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13:11.37 | pinotree | eshat: nope |
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13:21.14 | eshat | any other kde app, that supports webcam for windows live ? |
13:21.38 | eshat | it seems, that there is no good qt app for making webcam snapshots and caputeres anyway |
13:21.42 | eshat | except maybe VLC |
13:22.19 | annew | hmm - RC1 - I zoomed out and there doesn't seem to be any way to zoom in to an activity |
13:22.22 | annew | ideas? |
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13:26.49 | eshat | is there any KDE bleeding edge distro, that is also rolling release ? |
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13:27.02 | sxe | is it possible to add a filter to gwenview, that only images are shown that are greater than 800x600? i cannot find something like that.. |
13:27.14 | sxe | eshat: archlinux |
13:27.19 | Torch | sxe: i don't think it can do that. |
13:27.41 | eshat | sxe: do you use that ? |
13:27.46 | sxe | eshat: yes |
13:28.06 | sxe | eshat: look herhttp://chakra-project.org/ is a kde based distro based on archlinux |
13:28.13 | sxe | very good kde4 experience |
13:28.19 | muep_ | arch linux did not even include KDE 4.0 at all... |
13:28.25 | muep_ | would not call that bleeding edge |
13:28.28 | sxe | but its an andvanced distro .. not very newbe friendly |
13:28.41 | thiago_home | right |
13:28.42 | sxe | muep_: it did |
13:28.45 | thiago_home | any distro with KDE 4.0 is not bleeding edge |
13:28.48 | cibaer | eshat: http://www.amsn-project.net/ has webcam support, don't know if it's qt |
13:28.53 | thiago_home | if they have 4.4 or 4.5, however, that's bleeding edge |
13:29.02 | sxe | its in testing |
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13:29.08 | sxe | you can use 4.4 if you want |
13:29.12 | eshat | cibaer: no it is tq and wants to install the half gnome desktop |
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13:30.38 | muep_ | sxe: I recall they waited until KDE 4.1 before moving to KDE 4 |
13:31.06 | sxe | muep_: that the reason i pointed him to chakra-projekt.. |
13:31.17 | sxe | they are (or were) much more up to date then arch itselfe |
13:31.22 | muep_ | imo chakra != arch |
13:31.25 | cibaer | eshat: its nice to have gnome libs installed, I could not live without some gnome apps |
13:31.44 | sxe | muep_: right.. its a archbased dstro.. like i said |
13:32.13 | eshat | cibaer: but what about all the flamewars ;) |
13:32.48 | eshat | if you use KDE, you can't use gnome apps, that's an unwritten rule |
13:32.58 | sxe | lol |
13:33.01 | cibaer | hehe |
13:33.12 | cibaer | and never boot windows |
13:33.27 | sxe | windows cannot exist beside linux on the hd ;) |
13:33.34 | eshat | cibaer: I am not sure about that, since u can install KDE into windows |
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13:33.58 | eshat | but you can't install KDE into Gnome |
13:33.59 | cibaer | it would be nice to be able to install _single_ kde apps on windows |
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13:34.43 | eshat | however, why arent there some nice webcam apps using Qt |
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13:34.54 | thiago_home | because no one felt like writing one |
13:36.17 | Knuthy | Hi :) |
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13:53.23 | Nightrose | everyone who has a lazy weekend: please help with http://community.kde.org/Scratchpad/www-rework |
13:53.25 | Nightrose | thanks :) |
13:53.28 | Nightrose | if you have question ping me |
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14:06.59 | DexterLB | I installed ubuntu karmic |
14:07.04 | DexterLB | I've got the kde packages |
14:07.40 | DexterLB | starting any kde app that uses sound (e.g. qt designer, system settings, kttsmgr) outputs this error and crashes: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei |
14:07.40 | DexterLB | what can I do? |
14:08.17 | cb400f | ask in the distro channel |
14:08.29 | cb400f | smells like broken packages or installation |
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14:10.39 | Yarcanox | hi |
14:10.49 | Yarcanox | how may I copy text ouf of Konsole without the tons of space chars at the end of each line? |
14:10.52 | Yarcanox | that's kinda annoying and useless |
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14:13.41 | jimtendo | Should I use QFile for file manipulation in my KDE applications? Or the standard stdio libraries? |
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14:15.20 | sreich | definitely not stdio, and what kind of manipulations? you can probably use KIO for a lot of things |
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14:15.58 | Torch | jimtendo: qfile, of course. |
14:16.18 | Torch | jimtendo: or KIO, as sreich mentions |
14:17.43 | jimtendo | Yeah, probably a bit of a silly question in retrospect. Sorry guys. |
14:17.54 | sreich | no need for apology |
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14:20.59 | Torch | jimtendo: not at all. |
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14:29.39 | Merritt | Hmm, someone got Dream Aquarium running as an active-background with beryl/compiz. http://neaveru.blogspot.com/2007/04/instructions-to-get-fullscreen.html .. anyone know if this could be done under kde4 sans compiz? |
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14:42.11 | Ox032F | hey, can you tell me whether KDAR will be ported to kde4? |
14:42.48 | Torch | Ox032F: its author can. |
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14:43.09 | Torch | Ox032F: considering the last update on the project page is from 2005, i guess it's very unlikely. |
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14:44.06 | Ox032F | too bad, any good alternative you would recommend for backup of personal data? |
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14:44.48 | Torch | Ox032F: people seem to like luckybackup. it's qt only, though, and i haven't tried it myself. |
14:45.11 | spectral | the word lucky combined with backup kind of makes me cringe |
14:45.28 | pinotree | "luckybackup" because if it works it's because of luck? ;) |
14:45.35 | spectral | yeah something like that :P |
14:45.36 | pinotree | j/k, never seen it before |
14:46.09 | spectral | almost sounds like randomsort.. if you are lucky it's sorted.. if not.. |
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14:46.32 | sreich | heh |
14:46.32 | spectral | probably an ok app though, never tried it |
14:46.57 | spectral | possibly a german author who mistook "lucky" for "happy" |
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14:47.08 | Torch | spectral: hehe |
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14:47.27 | Torch | spectral: it's an rsync frontend |
14:47.47 | spectral | nowadays they should be using git.. :) or at least rdiff |
14:48.08 | pinotree | kdar doesn't seem dead though, last release is 2.0.8 on 31/08/2009 |
14:48.09 | spectral | i use backupninja.. i know, what a name aswell.. sigh |
14:48.28 | sreich | isn't git not really meant to handle binaries? |
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14:48.48 | spectral | "not meant" != "doesn't work" ;) |
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14:49.00 | spectral | it does it very well actually.. |
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14:50.57 | Ox032F | wow backupninja can backup databases, thats pretty cool |
14:51.35 | Torch | pinotree: no idea, i just looked at the sf.net project page. maybe the project moved elsewhere? |
14:52.00 | pinotree | still on sf, although just that page/site not updated |
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14:53.42 | Ox032F | http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdar/... can't see that much activity there |
14:54.06 | pinotree | http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdar/files/ |
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14:56.27 | Ox032F | yeah, nothing between 2005=2.0.7 and 2009=2.0.8/2.1.0 doesn't look too promising |
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15:08.35 | Phlogi | is there any documentation about nepomuksearch in kde 4.4? I'd like to create a folder view plasmoid with recent files... |
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15:15.57 | jmut | I am not sure if this is kde question or kernel/linux one. I'd like some way that my favorite programes are always on ram..top responding. Is there some trick I can achive this. This is konsole, firefox, vim |
15:17.00 | Torch | jmut: it's not a kde question ;-) if you mean you want the system not to swap out processes unless it can't be avoided, google for kernel vm swappiness |
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15:18.55 | grepper | I'm trying to get 2 panels one above the other so I can have a task manager on a panel above the main panel. Dragging has produced strange results and always ends up with the new panel BELOW the main panel. Can what I want to do be done ? KDE 4.3.4 debian sid |
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15:20.10 | RumblePure | Where is KDE's trash folder? |
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15:20.44 | Torch | RumblePure: $HOME/.local/share/Trash |
15:20.58 | RumblePure | Torch: thx man. |
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15:28.06 | jmut | Torch: thanks |
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15:31.25 | BlessJah | how to get conky working with wallpaper and desktop view, without making dirty hack with feh? |
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15:33.47 | tuxick | is amarok kinda fixed now? |
15:34.00 | Torch | tuxick: yes. |
15:34.07 | tuxick | ok, i'll give it another shot then |
15:34.35 | tuxick | a "dump database in reusable format" would be nice |
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15:36.23 | Phlogi | is there any documentation about nepomuksearch in kde 4.4? I'd like to create a folder view plasmoid with recent files... |
15:36.27 | BlessJah | what do i have to do, to make conky working properly (without using feh dirty hack) |
15:36.35 | Phlogi | nepomuk:/Recent Files does not work (found that via google) |
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15:36.50 | Torch | tuxick: the database is in a mysql db now, afaik. doesn't get much more reusable than that. |
15:37.05 | tuxick | Torch: only if they stop changing things |
15:37.05 | Torch | BlessJah: no need to keep re-asking the same question. |
15:37.12 | tuxick | i've trained amarok too many times now |
15:37.40 | BlessJah | Torch: someone could be idle when i've asked first |
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15:38.38 | Torch | BlessJah: don't worry about that. |
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15:42.10 | shadeslayer | when *will* they release the RC 2 :P |
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15:43.51 | Torch | shadeslayer: when the release team is confident all show stoppers are fixed |
15:44.01 | spectral | when lim x->0 rnd(x)/e^x^2 |
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15:49.08 | shadeslayer | Torch: and where can i find these show stopper bugs? is there some specific URL or just bugs.kde.org? |
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15:49.21 | Torch | shadeslayer: you can read the release team mailing list |
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15:49.33 | shadeslayer | Torch: ok |
15:49.33 | Torch | shadeslayer: these are mostly packaging and build problems, not "real" bugs |
15:49.40 | shadeslayer | Torch: oh.. |
15:50.10 | shadeslayer | Torch: one more thing,is it possible to connect to facebook via kopete? |
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15:50.30 | Torch | shadeslayer: i have no idea, sorry. |
15:50.35 | shadeslayer | Torch: ok |
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15:55.43 | Merritt | Hmm, someone got Dream Aquarium running as an active-background with beryl/compiz. http://neaveru.blogspot.com/2007/04/instructions-to-get-fullscreen.html .. anyone know if this could be done under kde4 sans compiz? |
15:59.19 | shadeslayer | Merritt: lemme see :) |
15:59.50 | Merritt | shadeslayer: 'kay |
16:00.22 | shadeslayer | Merritt: best option would be to post a reply at the above said blog,since i dont run wine |
16:01.22 | Merritt | shadeslayer: This guy seems to specialize in compiz (gnome, I bet :)) I personally can't stand compiz, kde effects are far more stable |
16:01.45 | BlessJah | ? |
16:02.42 | shadeslayer | Merritt: hmm well i dont have wine,never used it... you can try kde-look.org and have a look if they have the same screensaver or a varient there |
16:03.37 | Merritt | shadeslayer: I've looked actually, seems there is no equivilant in the linux world for this beautiful screensaver, however even if there was that still wouldn't get it set as an animated wallpaper :D |
16:03.54 | shadeslayer | Merritt: hehe... :) |
16:04.09 | tuxick | playlist is still screwed up on amarok |
16:04.21 | tuxick | each line a few pixels high, so unreadable |
16:04.24 | Merritt | shadeslayer: If I could, I'd do the work to port it to natively run in Linux |
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16:04.25 | tuxick | this has been so for months |
16:04.42 | shadeslayer | Merritt: i remember theres a wallpaper in gnome which changes as the day progresses |
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16:05.22 | tuxick | back to juk then |
16:05.33 | Merritt | shadeslayer: Yes, can do a weather-wallpaper in kde4 as well. I just think it'd be awesome to have life-like fish, crabs and bubbles, swimming around as my wallpaper in real time hehe |
16:06.49 | shadeslayer | Merritt: well thats weird to me :P... my little brother would actually try and grab some of them if they were on my screen :P |
16:07.25 | tuxick | can't think of good keyword for bugtracker |
16:07.28 | Merritt | shadeslayer: Hmmm, would probably interest my cats come to think of it!! :D |
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16:09.21 | |apriori| | hi all |
16:09.26 | |apriori| | what is the latex message preview key for kopete? |
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16:09.36 | |apriori| | and why isnt it mentioned anywhere in the description of the plugin? |
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16:10.08 | pinotree | |apriori|: $$...$$ |
16:10.17 | pinotree | it is mentioned in its configuration though |
16:10.37 | tuxick | i can't possibly be the only one having this problem with amarok? |
16:10.38 | |apriori| | pinotree: no the preview key was meant.. just found it: CTRL-L |
16:10.43 | tuxick | it's hard to miss, you can't see the playlist |
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16:13.16 | tuxick | i'll try again next year then |
16:13.55 | |apriori| | tuxick: which version do you have? |
16:14.02 | |apriori| | I dont have any issues with amarok so far |
16:14.25 | Phlogi | wasn't there a semantic-desktop channel or somehing here? |
16:14.41 | tuxick | |apriori|: 2.2.2 |
16:14.42 | Phlogi | #semdesk |
16:14.58 | tuxick | but i've had this issue with previous amarok2 versions as well |
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16:15.05 | tuxick | ever since it stopped crashing the moment i started it |
16:15.23 | tuxick | which was the problem with the first 2.x versions |
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16:16.16 | tuxick | aha |
16:16.24 | tuxick | i removed amarokrc |
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16:16.35 | tuxick | which means "there go my settings again" |
16:16.39 | tuxick | but now it looks ok |
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16:18.57 | tuxick | haha, it downloads lyrics |
16:19.01 | tuxick | nice but no thanks |
16:20.06 | tuxick | i don't see where to disable that? |
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16:20.12 | tuxick | ah |
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16:21.54 | d1b | shadeslayer: so so you are |
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16:22.52 | shadeslayer | :D |
16:23.16 | star | Hey, where is the option to change theme in kde 4.4 rc1? Used to really easy to find it in 4.3 :( |
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16:24.06 | shadeslayer | star: K > System settings > Appearence > Workspace tab |
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16:25.34 | star | shadeslayer: I feel dumb now, been looking in "system settings" ALOT but havent found it hehe, thanks! :) |
16:26.16 | shadeslayer | star: happened to me too :P |
16:26.31 | Half-Left | Probably because a lot of people don't know Plasma is the 'workspace' :p |
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16:54.58 | gnumdk | Hello |
16:55.15 | gnumdk | i'm trying to build bangarang but it failed with this |
16:55.30 | gnumdk | Could NOT find KdeMultimedia (missing: KDEMULTIMEDIA_LIBRARIES |
16:55.57 | sreich | are you trying to checkout *only* bangarang? |
16:55.59 | gnumdk | don't see what i need to install, can't find any kdemultimedia package out of kdemultimedia-juk,kmix, ... |
16:56.01 | szal | hint: kdemultimedia-devel or something |
16:56.07 | sreich | ah |
16:56.19 | gnumdk | using archlinux |
16:56.33 | szal | gnumdk: then you're in the wrong channel |
16:57.12 | gnumdk | ok ;) |
16:57.36 | sreich | gnumdk: question..are you using yaourt? |
16:57.37 | szal | see topic |
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16:58.14 | sreich | (building a package from AUR) |
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16:59.49 | LuciusMare | hello |
16:59.54 | LuciusMare | hello |
17:00.08 | Torch | LuciusMare: hi |
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17:00.15 | LuciusMare | can i apply some settings system wide? I mean, for example, multimedia settings - i have specific box, and i need to apply it to all users |
17:01.27 | Torch | LuciusMare: you could always just copy the config files to the other users, but that's of course a) potentially dangerous b) not very practical if you need to change the settings regularly |
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17:01.48 | LuciusMare | aw |
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17:02.55 | xenome | is there an easy way to add a terminal launch to the 'right click on desktop' menu? |
17:03.04 | Torch | xenome: no. |
17:03.25 | djustice | LuciusMare: ~/.kde/{share,config}/app_specific_dirs <- copy that for each user. then chown username:usergroup -R dir_name on it... |
17:03.27 | cb400f | with 4.4 you can make the desktop context menu to a application menu though |
17:03.37 | Torch | xenome: this has been requested before. it's not possible currently to modify the menu (for a user). |
17:03.40 | Torch | cb400f: is that in 4.4? |
17:03.56 | cb400f | pretty sure I read that somewhere.. didn't try it |
17:03.59 | spectral | alt+f2 konsole.. takes about 2 seconds shorter than clicking your mouse and selecting something |
17:04.03 | Torch | cb400f: well if you say it, it sure will ;-) i thought that was coming for 4.5, but i'm obviously mistaken. |
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17:04.26 | cb400f | alt+f1 -> arrow down -> enter is even faster :-) |
17:04.42 | sreich | Torch: yes, it's been in 4.4 trunk for a while |
17:05.33 | xenome | ok thanks |
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17:08.08 | GuySoft | yay, i fixed the alsa sound problem i had because of paulse |
17:08.10 | GuySoft | pulse* |
17:08.34 | GuySoft | i had to remove .asoundrc from the home directory |
17:09.41 | Fri13 | LuciusMare: about that settings thing for every user. For new users you get wanted settings applied when you copy them to /etc/skel in their correct position. Files from there are copied to new users home directory. |
17:11.00 | Torch | Fri13: good point. |
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17:29.17 | LuciusMare | and, that voice synthetiser fails for me |
17:29.24 | LuciusMare | every time i run it, it just makes an "eh" sound |
17:29.31 | LuciusMare | i mean, when it should do something |
17:29.44 | LuciusMare | how can i manually run it in cli? |
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18:45.46 | Phlogi | does this work for anyone on kde 4.4? nepomuksearch:/Recent Files/ |
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18:47.53 | rdieter | Phlogi: yes (kinda, it gives some entries, but I expected more) |
18:48.25 | Phlogi | rdieter: hmm does return nothing here :S |
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18:50.01 | rdieter | rumor has it some nepomuk features/functionality depends on a newer virtuoso-opensource release, ie, the latest release 5.0.12 (and 6.0.0) have bugs. |
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18:50.50 | Phlogi | ok |
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18:58.30 | Phlogi | rdieter: I get a lot of messages like "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject - No such object path '/org/soprano/Server/models/main'" from nepomukserver |
18:59.13 | rdieter | Phlogi: maybe poke folks in #nepomuk-kde ? |
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18:59.29 | Phlogi | rdieter: I'm already doing that ;) |
18:59.38 | tuxick | switched to "Air" theme and kde crashed |
18:59.48 | tuxick | pretty much totally stopped responding |
19:00.53 | tuxick | i suppose it was missing bits |
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19:03.48 | kriko | what are the diffs between high/low resolution and high/low cpu under style? |
19:03.57 | kriko | which one should I choose? |
19:04.05 | kriko | what is exactly high/low cpu? |
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19:27.30 | loonyphoenix | What is "schemes" in PowerDevil? I understand what scaling policies do; however, I don't know about schemes |
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19:30.39 | Merritt | loonyphoenix: Setup a whole bunch of options just so; save as a 'scheme', later load that scheme to quicktly apply those settings |
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19:33.47 | loonyphoenix | Merritt: doesn't seem so; it's under edit profiles > select profile > CPU and System > right under CPU scaling policy |
19:35.51 | Merritt | loonyphoenix: lessee, I got powersaving and performance.. powersaving - cpu throttles down when not in use to save power, but has to in effect 'spin' up when needed providing some lag. performance, cpu is always set to max, no lag while it kicks into gear. |
19:36.08 | Merritt | performance is good for desktops, powersave good for notebooks. |
19:36.12 | Merritt | ..that's about it |
19:37.13 | loonyphoenix | Merritt: but isn't that what the scaling is for? the ondemand, conservative and powersave ones? |
19:37.43 | Merritt | loonyphoenix: IIRC, that handles more things, like screen brightness, hibernate, etc |
19:41.46 | loonyphoenix | Merritt: okay, I'll assume that... |
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19:55.40 | mplabs | Hello there ! |
19:56.00 | mplabs | How can I add my KDE to the available sessions list in kdm ? |
19:56.10 | mplabs | I don't know why it's not there :S |
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19:57.04 | shivam | mplabs : try this ? |
19:57.19 | shivam | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Julian/How_To_Switch_Desktop |
19:59.27 | mplabs | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kde-desktop" |
19:59.27 | mplabs | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "system-switch-displaymanager" |
19:59.55 | mplabs | trying something, rebooting.. |
19:59.55 | Half-Left | Ask your distro channel |
20:00.01 | Half-Left | :p |
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20:00.56 | shivam | oops, forgot this isn't #fedora-kde :P |
20:01.10 | shivam | *i forgot |
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20:04.27 | Frederick | folks if I did an xforward via ssh how do I see my whole desktop and not just individual applications? |
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20:05.21 | Merritt | Frederick: NX ? |
20:05.28 | Frederick | nx? |
20:05.44 | Merritt | Frederick: Remote desktop sharing, highly recommended - tunnels through ssh |
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20:06.07 | Merritt | Frederick: http://nomachine.com/ |
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20:11.15 | Frederick | Merritt: do I need to install server and hsot in the machines? |
20:11.47 | Merritt | Frederick: The machine you are connecting to needs client, node and server all installed. The machine you are connecting from only needs client. |
20:12.56 | sreich | yeah nomachine is nice |
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20:16.15 | Spreadsheet | Hello |
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20:16.48 | Torch | hi Spreadsheet |
20:16.49 | mplabs | Working, thank you |
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20:21.35 | shivam | mplabs : congrats :) |
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21:18.33 | ilius | how can i install a plasmoid packge for all users? |
21:18.41 | ilius | i tried "plasmapkg -g -i FILE.plasmoid" |
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21:18.48 | ilius | but it says "Installation of FILE failed" |
21:19.53 | ilius | any idea? |
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21:22.21 | ilius | plz help! |
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21:22.29 | ilius | how can i install a plasmoid package for all users? |
21:23.29 | kx_o | does any one have a clue why the "misc fixed" font would be rendered differently in konsole in 4.4rc1? |
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21:24.06 | Half-Left | kx_o: Most likely it's a Qt issue |
21:24.19 | kx_o | kfontview can render it correctly |
21:24.27 | kx_o | that's what I find strange |
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21:25.44 | khindenburg | kx_o: I think there is a bug for that issue |
21:26.05 | kx_o | do you remember the # so i can follow it? |
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21:26.50 | khindenburg | bug 217700 perhaps? |
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21:27.44 | khindenburg | bug:217700 |
21:28.46 | kx_o | humm I'm not really sure if it's that one |
21:29.20 | kx_o | because the font does get rendered, its just different from what it was... |
21:30.19 | khindenburg | it is different from 4.3 to 4.4? |
21:30.23 | kx_o | yeah |
21:30.37 | kx_o | lemme take a screenshot |
21:31.37 | khindenburg | and what font is your 'misc fixed'? |
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21:32.34 | kx_o | what do you mean, what font it is? |
21:32.35 | xenome | is there an easy way to print a thread's ID? |
21:32.50 | xenome | i want to test my signal/slot setup to ensure I am processing the slot in the correct thread |
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21:34.35 | khindenburg | xenome: kde developing issue ask in #kde-devel |
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21:36.00 | xenome | oh I'm sorry, I thought I was in #qt |
21:36.06 | xenome | got the wrong tab open |
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21:39.02 | ghabit | Hello. Where I can change highlight of hidden panel? Thank you. |
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21:42.33 | kx_o | khindenburg: http://tvtel.pt/knuckles/pictures/fontrendering.png |
21:43.07 | kx_o | this picture shows gnome-terminal rendering it, konsole from another computer rendering it, a render by the gimp, and konsole from 4.4rc1 |
21:43.24 | kx_o | any ideas? |
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21:45.30 | khindenburg | not at the moment; I would add to the bug report; I think it is same issue. You should also put more text in the konsole display so it is easier to see the diffrence |
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21:46.02 | kx_o | ok, thanks, i'll do that |
21:46.39 | xsxixmx | idk if this is on the list yet, but spell check is blank w/useing the keyboard to scroll as oposed to the cruser |
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21:47.14 | xsxixmx | ...aka using the menu keboard button instead |
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21:57.15 | Foriskak | I move windows to another desktop yet they stay in the taskbar, how do I change this? Wasn't doing this in F10? |
21:59.25 | cptG | Forsikak: rigth click on the panel and go to "task manager settings" - i have to lock the widgets before i can find that menu entry, thogh |
22:00.07 | cptG | Fosiskak: might be easyer if you close as many windows as possible, so that the list in the panel isn't too long and doesn't take up all space |
22:00.45 | cptG | I haven't yet figured out how to reach the settings dialog for the task manager in another way yet :( |
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22:01.32 | kx_o | if you open the plasma panel |
22:01.38 | Foriskak | thanks cptG |
22:01.46 | kx_o | you can right-click any widget to configure it |
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22:02.13 | Foriskak | now...anyone succeeded in getting the taskbar to go accross both windows when using TwinView? |
22:02.14 | kx_o | unlock widgets, then click on the config button-cashew-thingy, then right-click any widget |
22:02.28 | cptG | kx_o: oh, thanks! |
22:02.31 | Foriskak | both monitors, rather |
22:02.46 | kx_o | foriskak I'm not sure if that's possible currently |
22:02.57 | kx_o | because of the way plasma separates things |
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22:04.05 | kx_o | but try asking on #plasma |
22:04.10 | Foriskak | k |
22:04.17 | kx_o | maybe some plasma guru there can tell you |
22:04.23 | Foriskak | can't beleive how much gokarting nuked my forearms |
22:04.31 | kx_o | I use two monitors myself |
22:04.33 | Foriskak | I must have been gripping the wheel like mad |
22:04.40 | kx_o | eh eh eh |
22:04.55 | Foriskak | can barely code Perl right now or type anything |
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