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00:37.06 | CyL | How do I disable transparency from the windows titled? |
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00:56.23 | hagabaka | when will kde 4.4 beta 2 be out? |
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00:57.35 | CyL | How do I get rid of transparency in KDE? |
00:58.01 | sreich | where? |
00:58.34 | CyL | Windows borders, menus, kde menu, etc... |
00:59.43 | sreich | rid of? there is not any transparency on window borders, by default. Unless your distro modified something |
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01:00.26 | CyL | sreich: probably it did.... |
01:00.48 | CyL | sreich: where should I look for? |
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01:55.05 | pibarnas | hi folks, kmix vol disappears from kde panel... any ideas? |
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01:58.13 | DjMadness | pibarnas: made sure the sound system is running before kde is started ? |
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02:02.32 | pibarnas | DjMadness: well, kde play the initial sound... |
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03:01.26 | Guest51049 | check this site out and feel free to join. all are welcome www.ugotit.ca |
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03:30.57 | Guest27292 | can someone tell me the last "stable" version of kde? |
03:31.19 | o_a | 4.3.4 |
03:31.28 | o_a | Guest27292: |
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03:34.06 | BlueX | well it hasn't been stable in kubuntu or sabayon |
03:34.39 | jeremym | its stable for kde just not a stable release for some distros yet as they are tweaking it however they want first |
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03:35.50 | BlueX | what is a good distro for kde 4.3? |
03:36.25 | moosecake | under System Settings > Computer Administration > Display > Power Control, there is an option to power off the display after x minutes. Is there a way to power it off after x seconds instead? |
03:43.58 | Will123456 | BlueX: i use fedora although i can't exactly vouch for it's stability, since it's been unstable with me. |
03:44.25 | Will123456 | BlueX: not incredibly unstable but hitching/crashing probably at least once a day which isn't that great all considering. maybe it's just our hardware? |
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03:46.24 | moosecake | anyone? |
03:47.05 | Will123456 | moosecake: what distro are you using? |
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03:48.30 | moosecake | Will123456: arch |
03:48.56 | BlueX | perhaps |
03:49.14 | BlueX | but considering I'm having the same problem with sabayon 5.1 that I had with kubuntu 9.10 I'm starting to think that the new kde versions are just unstable and buggy |
03:49.31 | BlueX | but simultaneously I don't know what the most reliable kde distro is |
03:49.41 | BlueX | "un-buggy" |
03:50.11 | Will123456 | BlueX: i don't know what the consensus is regarding KDE stability. it might just be that having it hitch or crash once a day is normal for KDE users- but i don't want to say that incase that's not true. ultimately KDE is always going to be more experimental (thus less stable) than gnome though |
03:51.45 | BlueX | yeah, I'm just wondering what the most stable version of kde was |
03:52.10 | BlueX | at first it was supposed to be 3.5 then it was supposed to be some of the earlier 4's |
03:52.11 | Will123456 | moosecake: sorry, i can't help you. i tried googling but i couldn't see anything related to the problem either, and plus that's not much help because you can google anyway :P sorry |
03:52.23 | Will123456 | moosecake: maybe rooting around in the config files might come up with something |
03:52.44 | Will123456 | BlueX: i'm pretty sure the latest 4.x are more stable than the earlier 4.x's? |
03:52.55 | moosecake | Will123456: yeah that's what I was wondering, maybe there's a text config that goes along with this with more options than the GUI's offering |
03:52.59 | Will123456 | BlueX: i think instability was something the early 4.x releases were lambasted for |
03:53.00 | moosecake | Will123456: thanks for the help though |
03:53.21 | Will123456 | moosecake: if only it was obvious what was what under /etc :S) |
03:56.30 | Will123456 | BlueX: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1229303.html |
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04:24.38 | jfx | Hitch or crash a day is definitely not normal for me. |
04:26.46 | BlueX | what are the most stable kde distros? |
04:27.13 | BlueX | not arch, its too advanced..are there better ones for beginner to intermediate? |
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04:27.15 | jfx | I have not tried them all. |
04:27.22 | BlueX | I'm thinking of sidux |
04:27.29 | Will123456 | jfx |
04:27.37 | Will123456 | what distro you on? |
04:27.49 | DEV_ | i 'm on fedora |
04:27.49 | jfx | I'm using fedora 12. |
04:28.24 | Will123456 | i'm using fedora 11... do you have kwin + shininess turned on? |
04:29.24 | jfx | I tried arch before, but I decided I would not want my computer to break after an update later when I got one for work. |
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04:30.29 | jfx | Will123456: Nope. I tried that on f10, but then I got some problems with the graphics driver (intel x4500) |
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04:30.46 | jfx | I havent tried on this computer yet. Hold on a minute. |
04:31.02 | jfx | (I might crash and burn for this, :) |
04:31.34 | Will123456 | don't try it for my sake! |
04:32.06 | lmurray | My Arch has only ever broken once in the years I've used it. That's less than when I tried Ubuntu XD |
04:32.13 | jfx | Seems to work. |
04:32.35 | jfx | Oh, no worries. I'm not doing anything important. |
04:32.40 | Will123456 | KDE definitely doesn't seem all that stable when i have all the effects turned on |
04:32.48 | Will123456 | maybe i should install f12 |
04:33.12 | jfx | I'm not on F12 on my laptop yet. I think the problem was associated to suspend/resume. |
04:33.19 | Will123456 | ah |
04:33.44 | jfx | so I cant say anything for that yet, but my stationary seems to play nice atm. |
04:33.54 | jfx | ask me again after a week, :) |
04:34.11 | BlueX | what are the potives for fedora? |
04:34.35 | jfx | "Fun" with SELinux :) |
04:35.00 | jfx | And it's pretty recent. |
04:35.05 | BlueX | at this point I want stable and enough gui ways to do things |
04:35.30 | jfx | (recent, I mean up to date) |
04:35.47 | BlueX | ubuntu/kubuntu have bombed with 9.10 and kubuntu is not a good kde distro |
04:35.49 | BlueX | imo |
04:36.36 | jfx | lmurray: For me arch broke small things pretty regularry, but it usually got fixed quick as well. |
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04:36.42 | DEV_ | hi there |
04:36.43 | Will123456 | BlueX: what about openSUSE and so on? |
04:37.19 | DEV_ | is there anyone who knows abt rhel |
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07:43.25 | menak | hi |
07:44.41 | thealex | i'm having some copy paste problems in 4.3.2, bout half the time it will not copy what i intend it to copy, any ideas? :> |
07:46.41 | Krooks | What widget should I use as a base/background for putting buttons and lineedit ? is there any good QWidget inherited ones or QWidget is usually it ? |
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08:02.47 | dihae | hello all |
08:04.54 | dihae | since 4.4 beta 1 on kubuntu, I get complaints about nepomuk not being able to find the virtuoso rdf backend. I cannot seem to find a package named virtuoso in the repo, but is there really a package for it? |
08:05.32 | dihae | I mean: if there is, the problem lies with kubuntu, if there isn't: it's something else ^^ |
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08:20.17 | hyper_ch | how can I prevent kpackageit to check for updated software at all? |
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08:22.59 | Niek-work | hyper_ch, there's an option for that isn't there? |
08:23.16 | Niek-work | Check for updates -> never |
08:23.56 | Josef_K | Hi... is it possible to modify the mount options for USB devices in KDE? I'd like to disable write caching. |
08:24.19 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: I see in the kpackageit settings only: [] Notify when updates are available and []notfiy when long tasks ahve been completed |
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08:26.43 | Niek-work | kpackagekit, right? |
08:27.59 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: I'll show you |
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08:31.02 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: http://bayimg.com/FAJJiaAcB |
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08:33.35 | Niek-work | hyper_ch: Perhaps you're running an old version of fedora? I have different options there. |
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08:35.45 | Krooks | <PROTECTED> |
08:37.05 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: http://bayimg.com/FAJJiaAcB |
08:37.23 | Niek-work | Yea, I've seen that. |
08:37.30 | Niek-work | [09:33] <Niek-work> hyper_ch: Perhaps you're running an old version of fedora? I have different options there. |
08:37.33 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: sorry, have some troubles with my intenet connection right now |
08:37.48 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: no, running Kubuntu Karmic with kde 4.3.4 |
08:38.11 | Niek-work | Sorry I thought I was answering in #fedora-kde. :) |
08:38.15 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: can you paste a screenshot of your settings dialog? |
08:39.34 | Niek-work | http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7513/kpackagekit.png |
08:39.40 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: I found this screenshot for kpackageit... that looks very different: http://userbase.kde.org/File:KPackageKitSettings.png |
08:40.04 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: what kde version? |
08:40.10 | Niek-work | 4.3.4 |
08:41.11 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: still, you only have an option to notify when updates are available but I don't see an option to not have kpackagekit check at all |
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08:41.34 | Niek-work | Yea, it's in the pulldown menu. |
08:41.37 | hyper_ch | sorry... it's on top :) |
08:41.37 | Niek-work | I can set it to Never. |
08:42.01 | Niek-work | I think Kubuntu changes packages to conform to different UI guidelines. But I'm not completely sure about that. |
08:43.08 | hyper_ch | I'll just purge kpackagekit then :) |
08:43.55 | hyper_ch | hmmm, but that would remove update-notifier also |
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08:47.30 | hyper_ch | Niek-work: thx for the help :) |
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08:49.07 | Niek-work | hyper_ch: Sure no problem. |
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08:55.53 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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08:56.42 | rindolf | There's a wretched kdeinit4 process that keeps hogging the hard-disk. I've just started KDE 4 (and discovered that most of my wallpapers have been nullified - again!!) . What can I do? |
08:56.53 | rindolf | I've already killed the amarok and kmail processes. |
08:57.58 | rindolf | << shlomi 3261 2.9 0.8 103616 21408 ? D 10:50 0:08 kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit] >> - this is the offending process. |
08:58.05 | rindolf | Would it be harmless to kill it? |
08:59.36 | rindolf | OK, now it stopped, but now Konqueror is very slow. |
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09:48.26 | sion | good mornign |
09:48.42 | alisonken1noc | yo |
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09:49.33 | sion | gota question, bothers me for weeks, is there some reason why is my system connecting to kde.jamaica.org? |
09:50.01 | sion | its TCP connection on port 34396 |
09:50.20 | alisonken1noc | which file is doing that? |
09:50.37 | alisonken1noc | s/file/program/ |
09:50.45 | sion | i dont know, just checking netstat and that connectins is there often |
09:51.00 | pinotree | jamaica.kde.org is one of the main kde servers |
09:51.12 | pinotree | are you using kdetalk.net, for example? |
09:51.31 | sion | no, just using xchat and nothing else |
09:52.05 | sion | in some paranoic way that can compromise my system, so i would like to know what is causing that connection and why |
09:52.15 | pinotree | well, netstat should tell you which program is connecting to that |
09:52.53 | sion | analyzing |
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09:57.10 | sion | this is all i have http://pastebin.org/65526 |
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09:57.46 | alisonken1noc | try netstat -nlp |
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10:01.24 | alisonken1noc | sorry - netstat -p |
10:02.56 | sion | ahh thanks, ESTABLISHED 8138/klaunchervGgGP |
10:04.27 | sion | have a place to start if i know what is causing that |
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10:37.15 | Folly | http://pastehtml.com/view/5sjefz4.html in Konqueror, please test |
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10:55.02 | alisonken1noc | Folly: looks ok in konqeror on kde 3.5 |
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11:00.13 | viric | Hello kde people |
11:00.19 | viric | Does KDE printing require a local CUPS server? |
11:00.22 | viric | (I'm in GNU/Linux) |
11:00.52 | viric | I'm using the CUPS client (CUPS client.conf), and while 'lp' works perfectly, KDE printing thinks that there is not any printer available. |
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11:50.11 | ghabit | Hello. How I can change systray icon for application? |
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11:53.54 | leighman | hiya |
11:54.16 | leighman | when I run kde apps in gnome they lose their window decoration if they're full screen |
11:54.24 | leighman | any idea what could have happened? |
11:54.37 | leighman | they work fine if not maximised |
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11:59.07 | pinotree | leighman: that's the job of the window manager |
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12:02.58 | leighman | yeh |
12:03.12 | leighman | they work fine in kde with compositing on or off |
12:03.22 | leighman | and in gnome they work fine with compiz off |
12:03.34 | pinotree | you should ask in #compiz then |
12:04.05 | leighman | it's only kde apps tho |
12:04.34 | pinotree | doesn't matter, any application doesn't handle its window decoration, but the WM does |
12:04.53 | leighman | okies |
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12:49.01 | pinotree | Goliath: wrong channel ;) (this is #kde) |
12:49.35 | annma | and your distro channel is better to ask about packages |
12:50.49 | Goliath | pinotree: i know, i am using kde though |
12:50.56 | Goliath | is any of those packages needed by kde? |
12:51.00 | Goliath | in my pastebin ? |
12:51.04 | pinotree | uh? |
12:51.21 | Goliath | here i removed 21 packages |
12:51.22 | Goliath | http://pastebin.com/m732b477d |
12:51.31 | Goliath | is any of the 21 needed by kde? |
12:51.33 | pinotree | Goliath: ask in the channel of your distro |
12:51.41 | annma | Goliath: we're all using a kernel however we don't ask questions here about it |
12:51.50 | annma | or Xorg |
12:51.54 | Goliath | annma: ITS A KDE QUESTION |
12:52.00 | annma | REALLY? |
12:52.02 | Goliath | i ask about kde dependencies |
12:52.05 | Goliath | YES REALLY |
12:52.13 | pinotree | hm, no? |
12:52.22 | Goliath | how no |
12:52.32 | annma | Gnome is not a KDE dependency, no |
12:52.34 | pinotree | if those would be needed by kde, your distro package manager would have told you, no? |
12:52.38 | Goliath | i just asked which of those packages are needed by KDE not my distro |
12:52.39 | annma | remove everything for KDE |
12:53.10 | annma | we cannot know about every distro packages |
12:53.19 | Goliath | ok |
12:53.31 | annma | especially as KDE only ships tarballs |
12:53.39 | Goliath | i use kdemod |
12:53.40 | Goliath | anyway |
12:53.41 | szal | Goliath: KDE packaging == distro-specific |
12:53.42 | Goliath | :D |
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12:54.09 | szal | even worse.. then you definitely want to ask in #archlinux |
12:54.31 | annma | szal: is that you who issued a bug report about the Frame applet? |
12:54.38 | annma | about rotations? |
12:54.46 | szal | annma: definitely not |
12:54.51 | annma | OK too bad |
12:55.10 | annma | would have been easier to get more details here ;) |
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13:22.43 | GNU\colossus | JonathanLima: `echo "Hi mates" | wall` |
13:23.05 | JonathanLima | thx GNU\colossus :] |
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13:23.17 | ikonia | ot even talk with talkd |
13:23.30 | ikonia | wall goes to all tty's though |
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13:36.45 | oversize | does anyone know if there is a problem with kde's jabber service kdetalk.net ? kopete can not connect to it anymore since yesterday |
13:38.12 | pinotree | was offline, and just connected successfully |
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13:40.08 | Yagami | anyone ever had the problem of plasmoids disappearing whenever i try to resize them ? |
13:40.19 | annma | any of them? |
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13:40.58 | Yagami | almost all of them ... i think the ones in the first activity are the only one i am using that doesnt disappear |
13:41.09 | annma | kde version? |
13:41.21 | Yagami | svn from two days ago |
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13:42.01 | annma | how many activities? |
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13:42.08 | Yagami | i mean , trunk from two days ago |
13:42.15 | Yagami | several , 6 or 7 i think |
13:42.48 | annma | so you should try to look further about the problem |
13:42.59 | annma | in order to report it |
13:43.39 | Yagami | i will try in a clean kde config startup ... but i guess there must be a bug somewhere |
13:43.47 | annma | yes |
13:44.00 | Yagami | annma: funny is that , there is a special way for them to reappear |
13:44.10 | annma | but to report a bug efficiently it's better to really look what's happening |
13:44.22 | annma | I am lost in trunk about activities |
13:44.36 | Yagami | annma: the secret is to move another plasmoid on the screen , to some edge ... when plasma re-aligns that plasmoid , the disappeared one reappears |
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13:45.30 | annma | I get a weird wall paper when I add an activity |
13:45.43 | Yagami | blue squares ? |
13:45.47 | annma | yes |
13:45.55 | Yagami | me too heh |
13:45.57 | annma | so where is my virtual desktop? |
13:46.09 | annma | this seems very messed uyp |
13:46.38 | Yagami | yep , very messed up |
13:47.00 | Yagami | it would be a huge usuability improvement , if activities were able to maintain their settings after loggin out |
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13:47.41 | annma | they should |
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13:48.14 | Yagami | here they dont ... i am using each desktop its own activity |
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13:48.39 | Yagami | and after loging in , its like they map the desktop randomly ... every time they are at diferent places |
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13:48.42 | annma | how do you set that? |
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13:48.58 | Yagami | in system settings, in the multiple screen option in there |
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13:51.11 | annma | OK I found that |
13:51.11 | annma | so what's happening when this is not set |
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13:51.25 | annma | how do I switch between desktops and activities |
13:51.26 | Yagami | annma: just the disappearing plasmoids problem |
13:51.26 | Yagami | annma: well , i use a right click on desktop mouse button ( i setted it up like that ) |
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13:51.34 | annma | ah this thing is a new wallpaper |
13:51.38 | annma | "quadro" |
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13:52.04 | Yagami | annma: "quadro" mean square in portuguese |
13:52.08 | annma | ;) yes |
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13:52.48 | annma | I have a weird mouse cursor |
13:52.52 | annma | the hand |
13:53.02 | Yagami | annma: sometimes that also happens :) |
13:53.09 | annma | I'll talk to plasma-devels to see what is going on |
13:53.29 | Yagami | annma: who is the plasmoid activities kde developer ? it would be great if all activities per desktop bugs were fixed before the final release |
13:53.49 | annma | I am asking in #plasma |
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14:10.04 | SIGMAX | Hi! |
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14:27.16 | albert__ | hi. i have some questions to kdevelop (3.9.96) and i am also interested in joining the kdevelop/kdevplatform development team. is here the right place to ask or is there a special kdevelop channel? |
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14:28.27 | pinotree | albert__: there's #kdevelop |
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14:28.57 | canton | Hi folks, i am having problems with kopete connecting to an openfire jabber server using ssl/tls. connection seems to build up but in connections manager it still says "connecting" or "offline" forever |
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14:29.15 | albert__ | pinotree: on what irc server? |
14:29.19 | pinotree | here |
14:29.19 | canton | is that a known bug? I am reading a lot about others having same issues but no solution yet |
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14:32.24 | albert__ | pinotree: is it hidden? i dont see #kdevelop here. but there is #kde-devel, i'll check there |
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14:33.05 | Jucato | albert__: just click on the #kdevelop name or type /join #kdevelop |
14:33.11 | Jucato | kde-devel is different |
14:33.17 | pinotree | albert__: did you try to /join #kdevelop ? |
14:34.21 | albert__ | oh strange. i use pidgin and pidgin didnt listed kdevelop in the room list. even a custom join chatroom to #kdevelop didnt worked. but /join #kdevelop worked, thanks |
14:34.57 | albert__ | hm perhaps i have just missspelled, now the custom join chatroom also works |
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14:50.02 | shadeslayer | any idea where i can get virtuoso RDF server for nepomuk? |
14:50.14 | shadeslayer | for compiling that is |
14:51.05 | annma | you get it from sourceforge |
14:51.24 | shadeslayer | annma: ok ill have a looksie |
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14:51.53 | annma | I think soprano in kdesupport should give you the link |
14:53.03 | shadeslayer | annma: well i have soprano daemon and libsoprano but nepomuk says it needs virtuoso RDF server |
14:53.18 | annma | you have that from what |
14:53.35 | annma | you said for compiling so I assumed you compiled soprano |
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14:54.00 | shadeslayer | annma: no i said i needed the RDF server for compiling rest are packages |
14:54.24 | annma | and why don't you have virtuoso as a package |
14:54.35 | annma | this is a distro bug then |
14:55.02 | shadeslayer | annma: yes probably but i need nepomuk so i want to compile it... |
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14:55.23 | annma | some googling should get you the link |
14:56.03 | shadeslayer | yeah im trying |
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15:15.20 | szal | how do I set KMail to automatically quote the msg I respond to? can't seem to find that setting.. I had it all set up in the past, but some update seems to have broken compatibility w/ the old imported settings (originally from KDE3-KMail) |
15:15.21 | annma | szal: it's default |
15:15.21 | annma | what does it do for you currently? |
15:15.21 | szal | annma: originally it gave me a blank editor page, now that I have set up default templates and insertion of signature, it also gives me those, but no quoted message |
15:15.22 | annma | in Configure KMail -> Composer |
15:15.22 | annma | General tab |
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15:15.22 | szal | and? |
15:15.28 | annma | Standard Templates |
15:15.47 | annma | in Reply to Sender, do you have %QUOTE |
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15:17.18 | SIGMAX | Hi, I can't get Kopete go through proxy, proxy for system has been set, online update can run with no problem, any ideas? |
15:17.59 | szal | annma: ah, I get the concept, thanks |
15:18.27 | annma | :) |
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15:31.02 | szal | is there a guide on setting up these templates? I have a particular problem now -> I put '%OTOMNAME <%OTOADDR>' there to show the receiving address(es) of the original msg; now when this contains more than 1 address it first shows all names, then all mail addresses (name1 name2 name3 <address1> <address2> <address3>), but I'd like it to show each address after the name it belongs to (name 1 <address1>; name2 |
15:31.04 | szal | <address2>; name3 <address3>) <- (how) can that be done? |
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15:51.54 | szal | is there a guide on setting up these templates? I have a particular problem now -> I put '%OTOMNAME <%OTOADDR>' there to show the receiving address(es) of the original msg; now when this contains more than 1 address it first shows all names, then all mail addresses (name1 name2 name3 <address1> <address2> <address3>), but I'd like it to show each address after the name it belongs to (name 1 <address1>; name2 |
15:51.54 | szal | <address2>; name3 <address3>) <- (how) can that be done? |
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16:51.48 | beyecixramd_ | i need help, looks like KDE is not using nepomuk, not for the search app, neither Dolphin uses nepomuk, what's more, in Dolphin, when i search "foo" it displays the address as "nepomuksearch:/foo", so i think nepomuk's not working |
16:52.38 | boom1992 | last one is absolutely normal I think ;) |
16:52.45 | boom1992 | I mean the nepomuksearch:/foo ;) |
16:52.48 | beyecixramd_ | oh |
16:52.50 | beyecixramd_ | well |
16:52.58 | beyecixramd_ | but it won't display anything anyway |
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16:53.08 | beyecixramd_ | i think Dolphin tries to use it |
16:53.40 | boom1992 | beyecixramd_: I wonder if you have tagged etc anything already? |
16:53.40 | beyecixramd_ | but just because it can't fin nepomuk, disconnects |
16:53.40 | boom1992 | ahh... |
16:53.49 | boom1992 | mmh.. |
16:53.49 | beyecixramd_ | find* |
16:53.49 | boom1992 | does dolphin show an error? |
16:53.49 | beyecixramd_ | no, it doesn't |
16:53.50 | beyecixramd_ | by the way |
16:53.50 | beyecixramd_ | tagging? |
16:53.50 | beyecixramd_ | i mean |
16:53.58 | beyecixramd_ | in Windows and Ubuntu, AFAIK, there's an indexing option |
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16:54.10 | beyecixramd_ | so you just type in what you want to search, and it shows you the results |
16:54.14 | beyecixramd_ | almost instantly |
16:54.18 | beyecixramd_ | is this possible in KDE? |
16:54.25 | boom1992 | mmh yo that should works ure ;) |
16:54.33 | beyecixramd_ | whut |
16:54.46 | boom1992 | although did it index your files already? |
16:54.53 | beyecixramd_ | nepomuk? |
16:55.06 | beyecixramd_ | dont know and dont think so |
16:55.06 | beyecixramd_ | can i check it? |
16:55.06 | boom1992 | ok well, check your systemtray ;) |
16:55.09 | annma | what indexes files in Ubuntu? |
16:55.11 | boom1992 | if there's something nepomuk-wise running ;) |
16:55.15 | boom1992 | annma: tracker I guess |
16:55.20 | boom1992 | anyway... I'm afk |
16:55.22 | boom1992 | cu later |
16:55.24 | beyecixramd_ | nothing |
16:55.27 | beyecixramd_ | amarok, kopete... |
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16:55.29 | beyecixramd_ | u.u |
16:55.31 | beyecixramd_ | byw |
16:55.34 | beyecixramd_ | bye* |
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16:56.25 | Half-Left | Strigi indexes your files, Nepomuk picks up the tags and file data |
16:56.37 | beyecixramd_ | humm okay |
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16:56.56 | beyecixramd_ | but there's "strigi is not running" |
16:56.59 | beyecixramd_ | according to KDE |
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16:57.42 | Half-Left | in systemsettings? |
16:57.43 | beyecixramd_ | in nepomuk/strigi settings, control panel, yes |
16:57.54 | beyecixramd_ | i try to enable it |
16:57.58 | Half-Left | What does it exactly say? |
16:58.11 | beyecixramd_ | and it gives me an error, "possibily because of an installation problem" |
16:58.19 | beyecixramd_ | i would send you screens, but my system's in spanish |
16:58.39 | Half-Left | Mkae sure your distro has the right packages installed for it |
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16:58.41 | Half-Left | make* |
16:58.47 | beyecixramd | Arch |
16:58.58 | beyecixramd | and doing yaourt -Ss strigi doesn't show a single package |
16:59.16 | Half-Left | As I know of, Arch only uses the Redland backend, which is very slow |
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16:59.24 | beyecixramd | true |
16:59.27 | beyecixramd | btw, how to change it :D |
16:59.32 | beyecixramd | KDEMod also |
16:59.47 | Half-Left | You need the sesame2 backend which uses Java |
16:59.49 | beyecixramd | no, wait, strigi's installed |
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17:00.26 | beyecixramd | no package provides sesame2 anyway |
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17:00.40 | beyecixramd | so strigi's installed but not working, why? |
17:00.41 | Half-Left | Well, that's ArchLinux |
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17:01.01 | Half-Left | Not it still needs a backend to work really |
17:01.15 | Half-Left | Sound like an ArchLinux issue |
17:01.24 | beyecixramd | it already uses redland |
17:01.28 | beyecixramd | isn't that ok? |
17:01.37 | Half-Left | It's terribly slow |
17:01.50 | beyecixramd | okay |
17:01.55 | beyecixramd | but it should still work |
17:02.02 | beyecixramd | i mean, strigi's not even starting |
17:02.10 | Half-Left | well, sort of but |
17:02.26 | Half-Left | 4.3? |
17:02.33 | beyecixramd | uhmm |
17:02.56 | Half-Left | I never had good results with redland |
17:02.57 | beyecixramd | 4.3.4-1 |
17:03.02 | beyecixramd | KDEMod |
17:03.11 | beyecixramd | so it's "improved" against vanilla KDE |
17:03.14 | beyecixramd | at least in Arch |
17:03.20 | Half-Left | Sesame2 always worked way better |
17:03.29 | beyecixramd | so |
17:03.37 | beyecixramd | you say, if i install sesame2, strigi should work? |
17:04.06 | Half-Left | It should do, you'll have to ask your distro channel about it |
17:04.16 | beyecixramd | it's always empty |
17:04.26 | beyecixramd | and in #archlinux, they tell me to get here |
17:04.37 | beyecixramd | #kdemod is empty, i mean |
17:04.54 | ChemBro | it's chakra |
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17:05.01 | ChemBro | #chakra |
17:05.07 | beyecixramd | no, wait |
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17:05.12 | Half-Left | The distro's I've tried worked with sesame2 enabled |
17:05.14 | beyecixramd | it's #archlinux-kdemod |
17:05.32 | beyecixramd | empty anyway |
17:05.57 | beyecixramd | i cant believe no one is experiencing this |
17:06.03 | boom1992 | #archlinux-kdemod isn't empty nor is #chakra ;) |
17:06.05 | Half-Left | I Can't speak for Arch because I never got sesame2 working properly as I remember |
17:06.08 | boom1992 | and both should be merged in latter |
17:06.21 | boom1992 | Half-Left: you needed to install openjdk6 afair |
17:06.27 | boom1992 | there was some issue with that... |
17:06.27 | Half-Left | Yes |
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17:06.37 | beyecixramd | not emtpy |
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17:06.43 | Half-Left | But with 64bit it seems to not work proper |
17:06.46 | beyecixramd | empty* but very idle |
17:07.00 | boom1992 | beyecixramd: sure, #chakra is the main channel now ;) |
17:07.12 | beyecixramd | oh, lawd |
17:07.14 | beyecixramd | my bad |
17:07.16 | beyecixramd | ill try here |
17:07.23 | beyecixramd | but i expect no responses anyway |
17:07.38 | beyecixramd | aah there it is |
17:07.40 | beyecixramd | http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=1292 |
17:07.42 | boom1992 | beyecixramd: ok do so :) I won't be able to help, gonna leave now again and not only for 5 minutes :) |
17:10.10 | beyecixramd | that's the exact same error KDEMod shows me |
17:10.10 | beyecixramd | openjdk6 |
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17:13.12 | beyecixramd | so how do i switch backends? |
17:13.13 | beyecixramd | virtuoso-redland-sesame2 etc |
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17:17.49 | Ronis_BR | how can I set rekonq to be default kde browser? |
17:17.50 | annma | in systemsettings there's a module to set your own default apps |
17:17.50 | annma | Default Applications |
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17:17.50 | Ronis_BR | annma: no, I mean, in krunner when you type man:ls it open man page for ls, how can I make it open at rekonq? |
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17:17.50 | annma | you said default kde browser which was what I answered |
17:17.51 | annma | now you're saying you ONLY want rekonq opening man pages from krunner? |
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17:18.19 | Ronis_BR | annma: man pages, google searchs etc |
17:18.48 | annma | but only from krunner? not as your KDE default browser? |
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17:19.32 | Ronis_BR | annma: the both :) |
17:19.39 | Ronis_BR | annma: I want that kde uses rekonq to everything |
17:20.15 | pinotree | then it is what annma told you already |
17:20.35 | Ronis_BR | pinotree: to doesn't make krunner open things at rekonq |
17:20.44 | Ronis_BR | like gg:<text> to search <text> on google |
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17:21.53 | annma | Ronis_BR: it works with firefox |
17:22.06 | annma | what is opened for you then? |
17:22.11 | Ronis_BR | konqueror |
17:22.19 | annma | try firefox |
17:22.20 | Ronis_BR | ALT+F2 gg:test |
17:22.38 | Ronis_BR | what do you mean? |
17:22.40 | annma | what IRC client do you have? |
17:22.49 | annma | wait, what IRC client do you use? |
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17:23.19 | Ronis_BR | annma: Konversation, wait a second I'll restart KDE |
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17:23.31 | annma | damn |
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17:23.49 | Nikoli | what command can I use for opening file with default app for it's mime type? |
17:24.06 | Sho_ | Nikoli: xdg-open |
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17:24.27 | annma | dances around Sho_ |
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17:24.39 | Sho_ | disco-annma |
17:24.40 | Moult | IS SOMEBODAY DANCIN |
17:24.50 | Moult | forgets which channel it is. |
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17:25.00 | Ronis_BR | annma: well, gg:<text> is working, but things like man isn't :) |
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17:25.20 | annma | like man and what |
17:25.50 | pinotree | man: is a kde-specific thing, so kde cannot know the custom browser you set supports that (and mostly don't, see eg firefox or opera) |
17:26.21 | Nikoli | Sho_, thank you! :) |
17:26.23 | Nikoli | will change firefox settings now |
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17:26.26 | Sho_ | Nikoli: happy to help |
17:26.54 | Nikoli | do you know why it is not default behaviour in ff? |
17:27.14 | pinotree | (because firefox has no sense of "integration") |
17:27.21 | annma | man: is not working at all for me anyway |
17:27.27 | factor | does kaffeinie have a way to detect a directoy that has a new file in it |
17:27.30 | Ronis_BR | rekonq supports man: |
17:28.00 | Nikoli | pinotree, but they do not use wine |
17:28.01 | Ronis_BR | btw, wine associated many things to notepad and microsoft office, how can I remove all of them? |
17:28.15 | pinotree | Nikoli: ? |
17:28.17 | factor | like only show directories that have had file changes with the last xxx |
17:28.18 | annma | man:ls does nothing at all for me, it stays like that in krunner |
17:28.26 | annma | Ronis_BR: ^^ |
17:28.33 | annma | so be happy it works for you |
17:28.50 | Ronis_BR | it owkrs but open konqueror |
17:28.53 | Ronis_BR | works* |
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17:28.59 | annma | so be happy |
17:29.08 | Nikoli | pinotree, ff is ported without using wine, so it is integrated |
17:29.17 | pinotree | Nikoli: LOL |
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17:29.50 | Nikoli | :D |
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17:31.58 | beyecixramd | okay, strigi enabled, but still having problems |
17:32.59 | beyecixramd | "The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice was not provided by any .service files" |
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17:49.39 | Sabioso_ | Any idea what is wrong? http://pastehtml.com/view/5sjefz4.html |
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17:51.12 | pinotree | Sabioso_: stop that |
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17:51.52 | Marchitos | i am using opensuse, and i am trying to compile timevault, here is cmake out: PolkitQtConfig.cmake |
17:51.54 | Marchitos | sorry |
17:51.57 | PyroPeter | pinotree: did I miss flash or animated pictures? |
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17:52.19 | Marchitos | here is the out: http://pastebin.ca/1717200 |
17:52.22 | pinotree | Marchitos: ask to its developer |
17:52.36 | Marchitos | it's missing this PolkitQtConfig.. |
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17:52.43 | Marchitos | i had installed all related pkg |
17:53.05 | Marchitos | but cmake still tell me it couldn't find it |
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18:03.44 | shevy | :D |
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18:12.20 | Nikoli | Sho_, how can I disable execution of sh and other scripts in xdg-open? |
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18:12.49 | KWhat_Work | can you not duplicated folders in dolphin? |
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18:13.09 | KWhat_Work | IE i click a folder, i ctrl+c or rt click -> copy |
18:13.12 | KWhat_Work | then then paste |
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18:13.34 | nullkuhl_ | how to install kde4(latest released version) on ubuntu karmic koala ?? |
18:13.38 | KWhat_Work | and it does something stupid like tries to copy folders inside of the folder im trying to duplicate |
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18:13.44 | Sho_ | Nikoli: not sure what you mean |
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18:13.53 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
18:14.13 | Nikoli | Sho_, do xdg-open ~/hello-world.sh |
18:14.16 | Ronis_BR | how can I restart kde settings, like apps. association and style, without erasing .kde4 and loosing all my contacts and emails? |
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18:14.33 | bastiandg | nullkuhl_: normally its "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destop" |
18:14.38 | Nikoli | where this script is "echo 123" |
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18:15.34 | Nikoli | konqueror asks me if I really want to execute something, but xdg-open and 'kfmclient exec' does not |
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18:16.18 | Sho_ | Nikoli: I don't know, sorry |
18:16.27 | Nikoli | eh |
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18:16.42 | Sho_ | Nikoli: xdg-open is basically a simple shell script that checks what desktop is running and runs the relevant tool, e.g. kfmclient |
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18:17.18 | Nikoli | so I need to find kfmclient exec option |
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18:48.03 | angasuleWork | I found a bug in the handling of unicode for egyptian hieroglyphs when using XML entities in konqueror, somehow I don't see it being a priority ^_^ |
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18:53.10 | vicky_ | hi, all. is anyone familiar with this error: |
18:53.10 | vicky_ | x-terminal-emulator: Fatal IO error: client killed |
18:53.10 | vicky_ | kDebugStream called after destruction (from virtual Konsole::SessionManager::~SessionManager() file ../../../../apps/konsole/src/SessionManager.cpp line 301) |
18:53.10 | vicky_ | Konsole SessionManager destroyed with sessions still alive |
18:53.11 | vicky_ | vicky_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. |
18:53.13 | vicky_ | it is from .xsession-errors file |
18:53.54 | pinotree | vicky_: that means konsole crashed |
18:54.26 | vicky_ | it happens on kdm login |
18:55.31 | vicky_ | what could I do to log into the system? |
18:56.05 | vicky_ | when I try to log in, there is a short blink. And then I see a login screen again |
18:56.13 | vicky_ | I thought it is of this error |
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18:56.27 | pinotree | is that the only error? |
18:56.53 | vicky_ | yes. at least in .xsession-errors |
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19:22.47 | ryrych | huh... it's another attempt ;) can you folks help me out? http://pastie.org/746087 |
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19:27.52 | pinotree | old libattica, update it |
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19:33.24 | chgonzalez | can I compile folderview plasmoid without having to compile all kdebase? |
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19:36.41 | annma | what kde version? |
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19:37.01 | carl- | is there some command i can issue from cli to disable the kde screensaver ??? |
19:37.02 | annma | you need the correct kdelibs and then you need to run cmake in kdeworkspace |
19:37.46 | chgonzalez | kde 4.3.4 |
19:38.14 | chgonzalez | co i "cmake" in kdebase and then "make" and "make install" in folderview/ ?? |
19:38.24 | chgonzalez | is it right? |
19:39.28 | annma | yes |
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19:40.01 | chgonzalez | ok, i'll try |
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19:40.43 | chgonzalez | oops |
19:40.45 | chgonzalez | CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:10 (macro_optional_find_package): |
19:40.45 | chgonzalez | <PROTECTED> |
19:41.40 | annma | what kdebase version and what kdelibs version do you have |
19:41.44 | ryrych | pinotree: can't find any attica library in ubuntu repos |
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19:41.57 | chgonzalez | annma: 4.3.4 |
19:42.07 | chgonzalez | i'm using SRPMS from fedora |
19:42.10 | annma | all is 4.3.4? |
19:42.25 | chgonzalez | i've patched folderview and I want to compile justt it |
19:42.28 | chgonzalez | yes, all is 4.3.4 |
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19:53.18 | Nikoli | hm, seems xdg-open is secure with kde4.3+firefox |
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19:54.12 | Nikoli | it does execute files after downloading because they are 644 |
19:54.18 | Nikoli | *does not |
19:55.01 | Nikoli | how can I change systemwide mime type association? |
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19:56.26 | Half-Left | systemsettings>Advanced>File Association |
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19:57.48 | subito | hi, is there a way to make kde look like gnome for people who wants to switch to kde but not too fast? |
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19:58.14 | annma | subito: not too fast??? |
19:58.29 | Half-Left | subito: Qt comes with native GTK theming |
19:58.37 | Half-Left | so yes |
19:58.37 | Nikoli | Half-Left, _for all users_ |
19:58.39 | annma | either you like gnome and you use it or you like KDE |
19:58.49 | subito | annma: i have a friend that wants to switch but he wants to keep gnome looks |
19:59.02 | annma | if he loves gnome he should keep t |
19:59.03 | annma | it |
19:59.15 | subito | he loves gnome look, that's all |
19:59.33 | annma | define look |
19:59.54 | Half-Left | Use the GTK+ theme setting then |
20:00.02 | Half-Left | That's what it's for |
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20:00.25 | subito | annma: the way the desktop look (with the bar on the top and all) |
20:00.41 | annma | he can keep it and run kde apps on it |
20:01.44 | subito | yes but he often prefer the kde counterpart of some programs so using only kde apps and gnome is kind of weird |
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20:03.19 | pinotree | ryrych: you have to compile it from kdesupport |
20:03.59 | Half-Left | subito: Use QtCurve or Cleanlooks then in the systemsettings |
20:05.57 | ryrych | pinotree but I compilled kdesupport yesterday |
20:06.10 | ryrych | pinotree: whole kdesupport |
20:06.34 | pinotree | did you actually check that attica was compiled? |
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20:09.28 | ryrych | pinotree: I'll check it once again |
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20:13.31 | ryrych | pinotree: here's the output: http://pastie.org/746173 |
20:13.57 | pinotree | says nothing |
20:16.46 | ryrych | pinotree: so how can I provide you more feedback so that you can help me? |
20:17.25 | pinotree | `make`, and see whether it is compiling attica |
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20:18.52 | buzz| | hi there |
20:19.02 | buzz| | can someone help to solve these problems: http://pastebin.ca/1717337 |
20:19.08 | ryrych | pinotree: "-- Up-to-date: /home/kde-devel/kde/lib/libattica.so.0.1.1 " |
20:20.21 | pinotree | i guess you svn up in attica, right? |
20:21.55 | ryrych | pinotree I made svn up in the kdesupport directly |
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20:22.43 | ryrych | pinotree: from attica: "At revision 1063049." |
20:23.28 | wilhart | where do i see what version of kde i'm using |
20:23.33 | pinotree | ok, then try to compile kdebase again |
20:23.41 | Torch | wilhart: help -> about kde in any kde app |
20:23.43 | pinotree | wilhart: in any kde application, help → about kde |
20:23.44 | DjMadness | Whats required to be able to turn off cpu's with powerdevil ? (my cpu does support it, i am able to turn it off with the /sys filesystem) |
20:24.08 | wilhart | KDE 4.3.2 |
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20:24.21 | wilhart | are there repos for 4.3.4 ? |
20:24.26 | wilhart | in ubuntu |
20:24.39 | Torch | wilhart: ask on #kubuntu |
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20:31.53 | ryrych | pinotree: http://pastie.org/746201 :( |
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20:33.18 | pinotree | i guess you svn up'ed also kdebase, right? |
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20:37.51 | subito | is there a way to place the widget in a panel without using the spacers but by placing them is an 'absolute' way? |
20:37.51 | subito | the widgets* |
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20:39.38 | subito | is there a way to place the widgets in a panel without using the spacers but by placing them is an 'absolute' way? |
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20:40.36 | ryrych | pinotree: that's right |
20:41.02 | Half-Left | subito: No |
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20:42.16 | subito | Half-Left: why? |
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20:42.55 | Half-Left | How it was design I should imagine or to being sanity to chaos |
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20:43.47 | subito | somebody should have added it, it might be useful |
20:43.49 | Torch | subito: containments are supposed to intelligenty manage their plasmoids. that makes sense as long as it works well. most of the time it does ;-) |
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20:44.37 | subito | Torch: but sometimes you want to place somethings exactly there and there and it's not convenient to do it with spacers |
20:46.14 | Half-Left | Well, it work how it works, it doesn't need to follow how other panels work |
20:46.56 | Torch | subito: i know what you mean. that's not how it is designed, though. |
20:47.40 | Half-Left | If your panel is full, you can do that of course |
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20:48.10 | subito | maybe i should add this feature ;d |
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20:48.59 | Half-Left | subito: ask in for the details on why #plasma |
20:49.07 | Half-Left | ugh |
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20:49.25 | Half-Left | ask in #plasma for the details and why* |
20:49.34 | Half-Left | bad grammar |
20:49.36 | subito | ok i'll ask |
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21:14.23 | deadeyes | hi all |
21:14.32 | deadeyes | I am trying to get a subversion checkout |
21:14.50 | deadeyes | but I get this error: |
21:14.51 | deadeyes | svn co http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.3.3/kdenetwork |
21:14.52 | deadeyes | svn: Repository moved permanently to '/tags/KDE/4.3.3/kdenetwork/'; please relocate |
21:15.12 | deadeyes | does anyone what I am doing wrong? |
21:15.14 | Half-Left | dont' use tags |
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21:15.27 | pinotree | websvn is not a svn repository |
21:15.33 | deadeyes | Half-Left: how can I get the sources for krdc-4.3.3 then? |
21:15.48 | pinotree | download the release tarball, for example |
21:15.58 | deadeyes | pinotree: where do I find it? |
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21:16.26 | pinotree | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.3.3/src |
21:18.12 | Half-Left | pinotree: What is "tags" anyway? |
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21:18.27 | pinotree | a tag is a release |
21:18.48 | Half-Left | yeah but there is loads of other stuff in there |
21:18.57 | Half-Left | Never seen that before |
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21:20.44 | deadeyes | pinotree: okm will take a look there |
21:20.44 | deadeyes | pinotree: thanks |
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21:21.58 | Torch | Half-Left: in svn you mark a point in time with a tag. this does not necessarily have to be a release. |
21:22.49 | Half-Left | Torch: on the whole kde repo, not matter what's in it? |
21:22.59 | Torch | Half-Left: nope. for some dir |
21:23.11 | Torch | Half-Left: it's like a copy operation to some backup dir. |
21:23.24 | Half-Left | oh |
21:24.21 | Torch | Half-Left: it's very common to tag the state of the sources in some dir before beginning a potentially dangerous and disrupting code change. |
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21:25.39 | Half-Left | Torch: Sounds scary, I remember this the first time I used svn :p |
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21:33.16 | ryrych | pinotree: is there any light in the end of the tunnel for me? :) |
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22:21.35 | Andr3wU | ok so plasma-desktop froze yet again |
22:21.37 | Andr3wU | what do i do ehre |
22:21.39 | Andr3wU | here* |
22:22.23 | RiotingPacifist | is digikam not part of kde? like amarok? |
22:24.12 | Andr3wU | it stores stuff in .kde |
22:24.19 | Andr3wU | you won't be filing bugs for it at bugs.kde.org though :P |
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22:31.45 | szal | RiotingPacifist: neither Amarok nor digiKam are part of KDE |
22:32.36 | RiotingPacifist | thx that's what i thought just wanted to make sure i wasn't spreading miss information |
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22:53.14 | kriko | can someone open kwrite and furiously click in empty text area? do you get a crash? |
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22:58.40 | vadi01 | kriko: nope |
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23:01.28 | tdfischer | no just a cramp |
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23:02.04 | sreich | no, but maybe I'm not furious enough |
23:02.16 | sreich | from trunk |
23:02.36 | kriko | click 3 or more times in a row |
23:02.41 | kriko | very quickly |
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23:02.51 | kriko | I can actually reproduce it on 4.3.4 |
23:02.55 | kriko | and a couple of others |
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23:04.29 | kriko | so probably it's fixed in 4.4 |
23:04.36 | kriko | should I bother with bug report?= |
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23:07.44 | watermind | is there some nice KDE app to edit pdfs? |
23:07.50 | watermind | can okular do that? |
23:07.55 | pinotree | no |
23:08.07 | watermind | pinotree: no to 1st question or just 2nd |
23:08.26 | tdfischer | editing a pdf isn't easy on any platform |
23:08.28 | pinotree | to the latter; to the former, i dunno |
23:09.02 | tdfischer | you can easily convert a PDF to some other format that you can edit, but directly editing a PDF is near impossible from what I know |
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23:10.35 | watermind | tdfischer: well I have a doc |
23:10.57 | watermind | tdfischer: opened in OpenOffice and vertical text in tables is messed up |
23:11.05 | watermind | tdfischer: saved in odt, corrected saved |
23:11.26 | watermind | tdfischer: when I reopen the doc vertical text is all scrambled again |
23:11.42 | watermind | tdfischer: therefore me considering exporting to pdf |
23:11.44 | watermind | soooo |
23:11.58 | watermind | going from doc -> odt -> pdf -> odt |
23:11.59 | watermind | nah |
23:12.04 | watermind | doesn't seem likely to work |
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23:12.17 | pinotree | pdf is mostly not meant for editing |
23:12.20 | watermind | I know |
23:12.41 | watermind | like I said, I have doc |
23:12.43 | watermind | and odt |
23:12.48 | watermind | those are meant for editing |
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23:12.54 | watermind | but this is really not working |
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23:15.32 | watermind | problem is, I wish I could just sent an angry email to those who sent the doc file |
23:15.32 | watermind | but this is not _my_ stuff |
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23:25.45 | wilhart | hey ppl.... |
23:26.00 | wilhart | i'm in system settings -> appearance -> windows |
23:26.18 | wilhart | here i can load a new theme for windows and when i load and apply no style is changed? |
23:26.29 | wilhart | how do i get it so style would change too ? |
23:26.32 | wilhart | is this a bug? |
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23:30.57 | tdfischer | wilhart: sounds like it |
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23:33.19 | wilhart | kwin-style-aurorae - Theme engine for KWin window decorations |
23:33.19 | wilhart | i cant seem to get style changed?? |
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23:44.32 | Mousey | hi, |
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23:45.57 | Mousey | how do i get SOCKS working in KDE apps? there seems to be no place in any KDE-centric app to designate localhost:port for a SOCKS proxy (a la ssh -D) |
23:46.54 | Mousey | also debian |
23:47.14 | Mousey | (but distro doesn't seem to matter, none i've ever found have proxy fields for SOCKS) |
23:48.25 | Mousey | also, how do i get knetworkmanager to do pptp? seems unpossible, even thought i have network-manager-pptp installed |
23:48.42 | Mousey | oh, nix the last ?, fixed with nm-aplet |
23:48.45 | Mousey | +p |
23:49.10 | Mousey | yah. would love to switch to kopete/konversation, but no SOCKS proxy fields. any help would be nice, ty |
23:49.42 | Sho_ | Mousey: Konversation 1.2.1 has SOCKS proxy support |
23:49.54 | Sho_ | enjoy |
23:49.58 | Mousey | yay |
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23:50.09 | Mousey | tho kopete is really the more desirable one =( |
23:50.17 | Mousey | i don't really like pidgin anymore =( |
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