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00:37.06CyLHow do I disable transparency from the windows titled?
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00:56.23hagabakawhen will kde 4.4 beta 2 be out?
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00:57.35CyLHow do I get rid of transparency in KDE?
00:58.01sreichwhere?
00:58.34CyLWindows borders, menus, kde menu, etc...
00:59.43sreichrid of? there is not any transparency on window borders, by default. Unless your distro modified something
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01:00.26CyLsreich: probably it did....
01:00.48CyLsreich: where should I look for?
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01:55.05pibarnashi folks, kmix vol disappears from kde panel... any ideas?
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01:58.13DjMadnesspibarnas: made sure the sound system is running before kde is started ?
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02:02.32pibarnasDjMadness: well, kde play the initial sound...
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03:30.57Guest27292can someone tell me the last "stable" version of kde?
03:31.19o_a4.3.4
03:31.28o_aGuest27292:
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03:34.06BlueXwell it hasn't been stable in kubuntu or sabayon
03:34.39jeremymits stable for kde just not a stable release for some distros yet as they are tweaking it however they want first
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03:35.50BlueXwhat is a good distro for kde 4.3?
03:36.25moosecakeunder System Settings > Computer Administration > Display > Power Control, there is an option to power off the display after x minutes. Is there a way to power it off after x seconds instead?
03:43.58Will123456BlueX: i use fedora although i can't exactly vouch for it's stability, since it's been unstable with me.
03:44.25Will123456BlueX: not incredibly unstable but hitching/crashing probably at least once a day which isn't that great all considering. maybe it's just our hardware?
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03:46.24moosecakeanyone?
03:47.05Will123456moosecake: what distro are you using?
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03:48.30moosecakeWill123456: arch
03:48.56BlueXperhaps
03:49.14BlueXbut considering I'm having the same problem with sabayon 5.1 that I had with kubuntu 9.10 I'm starting to think that the new kde versions are just unstable and buggy
03:49.31BlueXbut simultaneously I don't know what the most reliable kde distro is
03:49.41BlueX"un-buggy"
03:50.11Will123456BlueX: i don't know what the consensus is regarding KDE stability. it might just be that having it hitch or crash once a day is normal for KDE users-  but i don't want to say that incase that's not true. ultimately KDE is always going to be more experimental (thus less stable) than gnome though
03:51.45BlueXyeah, I'm just wondering what the most stable version of kde was
03:52.10BlueXat first it was supposed to be 3.5 then it was supposed to be some of the earlier 4's
03:52.11Will123456moosecake: sorry, i can't help you. i tried googling but i couldn't see anything related to the problem either, and plus that's not much help because you can google anyway :P sorry
03:52.23Will123456moosecake: maybe rooting around in the config files might come up with something
03:52.44Will123456BlueX: i'm pretty sure the latest 4.x are more stable than the earlier 4.x's?
03:52.55moosecakeWill123456: yeah that's what I was wondering, maybe there's a text config that goes along with this with more options than the GUI's offering
03:52.59Will123456BlueX: i think instability was something the early 4.x releases were lambasted for
03:53.00moosecakeWill123456: thanks for the help though
03:53.21Will123456moosecake: if only it was obvious what was what under /etc :S)
03:56.30Will123456BlueX: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1229303.html
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04:24.38jfxHitch or crash a day is definitely not normal for me.
04:26.46BlueXwhat are the most stable kde distros?
04:27.13BlueXnot arch, its too advanced..are there better ones for beginner to intermediate?
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04:27.15jfxI have not tried them all.
04:27.22BlueXI'm thinking of sidux
04:27.29Will123456jfx
04:27.37Will123456what distro you on?
04:27.49DEV_i 'm on fedora
04:27.49jfxI'm using fedora 12.
04:28.24Will123456i'm using fedora 11... do you have kwin + shininess turned on?
04:29.24jfxI tried arch before, but I decided I would not want my computer to break after an update later when I got one for work.
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04:30.29jfxWill123456: Nope. I tried that on f10, but then I got some problems with the graphics driver (intel x4500)
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04:30.46jfxI havent tried on this computer yet. Hold on a minute.
04:31.02jfx(I might crash and burn for this, :)
04:31.34Will123456don't try it for my sake!
04:32.06lmurrayMy Arch has only ever broken once in the years I've used it. That's less than when I tried Ubuntu XD
04:32.13jfxSeems to work.
04:32.35jfxOh, no worries. I'm not doing anything important.
04:32.40Will123456KDE definitely doesn't seem all that stable when i have all the effects turned on
04:32.48Will123456maybe i should install f12
04:33.12jfxI'm not on F12 on my laptop yet. I think the problem was associated to suspend/resume.
04:33.19Will123456ah
04:33.44jfxso I cant say anything for that yet, but my stationary seems to play nice atm.
04:33.54jfxask me again after a week, :)
04:34.11BlueXwhat are the potives for fedora?
04:34.35jfx"Fun" with SELinux :)
04:35.00jfxAnd it's pretty recent.
04:35.05BlueXat this point I want stable and enough gui ways to do things
04:35.30jfx(recent, I mean up to date)
04:35.47BlueXubuntu/kubuntu have bombed with 9.10 and kubuntu is not a good kde distro
04:35.49BlueXimo
04:36.36jfxlmurray: For me arch broke small things pretty regularry, but it usually got fixed quick as well.
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04:36.42DEV_hi there
04:36.43Will123456BlueX: what about openSUSE and so on?
04:37.19DEV_is there anyone who knows abt rhel
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07:44.41thealexi'm having some copy paste problems in 4.3.2, bout half the time it will not copy what i intend it to copy, any ideas? :>
07:46.41KrooksWhat widget should I use as a base/background for putting buttons and lineedit ? is there any good QWidget inherited ones or QWidget is usually it ?
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08:02.47dihaehello all
08:04.54dihaesince 4.4 beta 1 on kubuntu, I get complaints about nepomuk not being able to find the virtuoso rdf backend. I cannot seem to find a package named virtuoso in the repo, but is there really a package for it?
08:05.32dihaeI mean: if there is, the problem lies with kubuntu, if there isn't: it's something else ^^
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08:20.17hyper_chhow can I prevent kpackageit to check for updated software at all?
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08:22.59Niek-workhyper_ch, there's an option for that isn't there?
08:23.16Niek-workCheck for updates -> never
08:23.56Josef_KHi... is it possible to modify the mount options for USB devices in KDE?  I'd like to disable write caching.
08:24.19hyper_chNiek-work: I see in the kpackageit settings only:   [] Notify when updates are available  and []notfiy when long tasks ahve been completed
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08:26.43Niek-workkpackagekit, right?
08:27.59hyper_chNiek-work: I'll show you
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08:31.02hyper_chNiek-work: http://bayimg.com/FAJJiaAcB
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08:33.35Niek-workhyper_ch: Perhaps you're running an old version of fedora? I have different options there.
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08:37.05hyper_chNiek-work: http://bayimg.com/FAJJiaAcB
08:37.23Niek-workYea, I've seen that.
08:37.30Niek-work[09:33] <Niek-work> hyper_ch: Perhaps you're running an old version of fedora? I have different options there.
08:37.33hyper_chNiek-work: sorry, have some troubles with my intenet connection right now
08:37.48hyper_chNiek-work: no, running Kubuntu Karmic with kde 4.3.4
08:38.11Niek-workSorry I thought I was answering in #fedora-kde. :)
08:38.15hyper_chNiek-work: can you paste a screenshot of your settings dialog?
08:39.34Niek-workhttp://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7513/kpackagekit.png
08:39.40hyper_chNiek-work: I found this screenshot for kpackageit... that looks very different: http://userbase.kde.org/File:KPackageKitSettings.png
08:40.04hyper_chNiek-work: what kde version?
08:40.10Niek-work4.3.4
08:41.11hyper_chNiek-work: still, you only have an option to notify when updates are available but I don't see an option to not have kpackagekit check at all
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08:41.34Niek-workYea, it's in the pulldown menu.
08:41.37hyper_chsorry... it's on top :)
08:41.37Niek-workI can set it to Never.
08:42.01Niek-workI think Kubuntu changes packages to conform to different UI guidelines. But I'm not completely sure about that.
08:43.08hyper_chI'll just purge kpackagekit then :)
08:43.55hyper_chhmmm, but that would remove update-notifier also
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08:47.30hyper_chNiek-work: thx for the help :)
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08:49.07Niek-workhyper_ch: Sure no problem.
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08:55.53rindolfHi all.
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08:56.42rindolfThere's a wretched kdeinit4 process that keeps hogging the hard-disk. I've just started KDE 4 (and discovered that most of my wallpapers have been nullified - again!!) . What can I do?
08:56.53rindolfI've already killed the  amarok and kmail processes.
08:57.58rindolf<< shlomi    3261  2.9  0.8 103616 21408 ?        D    10:50   0:08 kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit] >> - this is the offending process.
08:58.05rindolfWould it be harmless to kill it?
08:59.36rindolfOK, now it stopped, but now Konqueror is very slow.
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09:48.26siongood mornign
09:48.42alisonken1nocyo
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09:49.33siongota question, bothers me for weeks, is there some reason why is my system connecting to kde.jamaica.org?
09:50.01sionits TCP connection on port 34396
09:50.20alisonken1nocwhich file is doing that?
09:50.37alisonken1nocs/file/program/
09:50.45sioni dont know, just checking netstat and that connectins is there often
09:51.00pinotreejamaica.kde.org is one of the main kde servers
09:51.12pinotreeare you using kdetalk.net, for example?
09:51.31sionno, just using xchat and nothing else
09:52.05sionin some paranoic way that can compromise my system, so i would like to know what is causing that connection and why
09:52.15pinotreewell, netstat should tell you which program is connecting to that
09:52.53sionanalyzing
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09:57.10sionthis is all i have http://pastebin.org/65526
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09:57.46alisonken1noctry netstat -nlp
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10:01.24alisonken1nocsorry - netstat -p
10:02.56sionahh thanks, ESTABLISHED 8138/klaunchervGgGP
10:04.27sionhave a place to start if i know what is causing that
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10:37.15Follyhttp://pastehtml.com/view/5sjefz4.html in Konqueror, please test
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10:55.02alisonken1nocFolly: looks ok in konqeror on kde 3.5
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11:00.13viricHello kde people
11:00.19viricDoes KDE printing require a local CUPS server?
11:00.22viric(I'm in GNU/Linux)
11:00.52viricI'm using the CUPS client (CUPS client.conf), and while 'lp' works perfectly, KDE printing thinks that there is not any printer available.
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11:50.11ghabitHello. How I can change systray icon for application?
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11:53.54leighmanhiya
11:54.16leighmanwhen I run kde apps in gnome they lose their window decoration if they're full screen
11:54.24leighmanany idea what could have happened?
11:54.37leighmanthey work fine if not maximised
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11:59.07pinotreeleighman: that's the job of the window manager
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12:02.58leighmanyeh
12:03.12leighmanthey work fine in kde with compositing on or off
12:03.22leighmanand in gnome they work fine with compiz off
12:03.34pinotreeyou should ask in #compiz then
12:04.05leighmanit's only kde apps tho
12:04.34pinotreedoesn't matter, any application doesn't handle its window decoration, but the WM does
12:04.53leighmanokies
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12:49.01pinotreeGoliath: wrong channel ;) (this is #kde)
12:49.35annmaand your distro channel is better to ask about packages
12:50.49Goliathpinotree: i know, i am using kde though
12:50.56Goliathis any of those packages needed by kde?
12:51.00Goliathin my pastebin ?
12:51.04pinotreeuh?
12:51.21Goliathhere i removed 21 packages
12:51.22Goliathhttp://pastebin.com/m732b477d
12:51.31Goliathis any of the 21 needed by kde?
12:51.33pinotreeGoliath: ask in the channel of your distro
12:51.41annmaGoliath: we're all using a kernel however we don't ask questions here about it
12:51.50annmaor Xorg
12:51.54Goliathannma: ITS A KDE QUESTION
12:52.00annmaREALLY?
12:52.02Goliathi ask about kde dependencies
12:52.05GoliathYES REALLY
12:52.13pinotreehm, no?
12:52.22Goliathhow no
12:52.32annmaGnome is not a KDE dependency, no
12:52.34pinotreeif those would be needed by kde, your distro package manager would have told you, no?
12:52.38Goliathi just asked which of those packages are needed by KDE not my distro
12:52.39annmaremove everything for KDE
12:53.10annmawe cannot know about every distro packages
12:53.19Goliathok
12:53.31annmaespecially as KDE only ships tarballs
12:53.39Goliathi use kdemod
12:53.40Goliathanyway
12:53.41szalGoliath: KDE packaging == distro-specific
12:53.42Goliath:D
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12:54.09szaleven worse..  then you definitely want to ask in #archlinux
12:54.31annmaszal: is that you who issued a bug report about the Frame applet?
12:54.38annmaabout rotations?
12:54.46szalannma: definitely not
12:54.51annmaOK too bad
12:55.10annmawould have been easier to get more details here ;)
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13:21.58JonathanLimahello... how can i send messages to logged users with knotify using only ssh?
13:22.43GNU\colossusJonathanLima: `echo "Hi mates" | wall`
13:23.05JonathanLimathx GNU\colossus :]
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13:23.13ikoniawall would work well
13:23.17ikoniaot even talk with talkd
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13:36.45oversizedoes anyone know if there is a problem with kde's jabber service kdetalk.net ? kopete can not connect to it anymore since yesterday
13:38.12pinotreewas offline, and just connected successfully
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13:40.08Yagamianyone ever had the problem of plasmoids disappearing whenever i try to resize them ?
13:40.19annmaany of them?
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13:40.58Yagamialmost all of them ... i think the ones in the first activity are the only one i am using that doesnt disappear
13:41.09annmakde version?
13:41.21Yagamisvn from two days ago
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13:42.01annmahow many activities?
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13:42.08Yagamii mean , trunk from two days ago
13:42.15Yagamiseveral , 6 or 7 i think
13:42.48annmaso you should try to look further about the problem
13:42.59annmain order to report it
13:43.39Yagamii will try in a clean kde config startup ... but i guess there must be a bug somewhere
13:43.47annmayes
13:44.00Yagamiannma: funny is that  , there is a special way for them to reappear
13:44.10annmabut to report a bug efficiently it's better to really look what's happening
13:44.22annmaI am lost in trunk about activities
13:44.36Yagamiannma: the secret is to move another plasmoid on the screen , to some edge ... when plasma re-aligns that plasmoid , the disappeared one reappears
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13:45.30annmaI get a weird wall paper when I add an activity
13:45.43Yagamiblue squares ?
13:45.47annmayes
13:45.55Yagamime too heh
13:45.57annmaso where is my virtual desktop?
13:46.09annmathis seems very messed uyp
13:46.38Yagamiyep , very messed up
13:47.00Yagamiit would be a huge usuability improvement , if activities were able to maintain their settings after loggin out
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13:47.41annmathey should
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13:48.14Yagamihere they dont ... i am using each desktop its own activity
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13:48.39Yagamiand after loging in , its like they map the desktop randomly ... every time they are at diferent places
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13:48.42annmahow do you set that?
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13:48.58Yagamiin system settings, in the multiple screen option in there
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13:51.11annmaOK I found that
13:51.11annmaso what's happening when this is not set
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13:51.25annmahow do I switch between desktops and activities
13:51.26Yagamiannma: just the disappearing plasmoids problem
13:51.26Yagamiannma: well , i use a right click on desktop mouse button ( i setted it up like that )
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13:51.34annmaah this thing is a new wallpaper
13:51.38annma"quadro"
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13:52.04Yagamiannma: "quadro" mean square in portuguese
13:52.08annma;) yes
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13:52.48annmaI have a weird mouse cursor
13:52.52annmathe hand
13:53.02Yagamiannma: sometimes that also happens :)
13:53.09annmaI'll talk to plasma-devels to see what is going on
13:53.29Yagamiannma: who is the plasmoid activities kde developer ? it would be great if all activities per desktop bugs were fixed before the final release
13:53.49annmaI am asking in #plasma
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14:10.04SIGMAXHi!
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14:27.16albert__hi. i have some questions to kdevelop (3.9.96) and i am also interested in joining the kdevelop/kdevplatform development team. is here the right place to ask or is there a special kdevelop channel?
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14:28.27pinotreealbert__: there's #kdevelop
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14:28.57cantonHi folks, i am having problems with kopete connecting to an openfire jabber server using ssl/tls. connection seems to build up but in connections manager it still says "connecting" or "offline" forever
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14:29.15albert__pinotree: on what irc server?
14:29.19pinotreehere
14:29.19cantonis that a known bug? I am reading a lot about others having same issues but no solution yet
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14:32.24albert__pinotree: is it hidden? i dont see #kdevelop here. but there is #kde-devel, i'll check there
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14:33.05Jucatoalbert__: just click on the #kdevelop name or type /join #kdevelop
14:33.11Jucatokde-devel is different
14:33.17pinotreealbert__: did you try to /join #kdevelop ?
14:34.21albert__oh strange. i use pidgin and pidgin didnt listed kdevelop in the room list. even a custom join chatroom to #kdevelop didnt worked. but /join #kdevelop worked, thanks
14:34.57albert__hm perhaps i have just missspelled, now the custom join chatroom also works
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14:50.02shadeslayerany idea where i can get virtuoso RDF server for nepomuk?
14:50.14shadeslayerfor compiling that is
14:51.05annmayou get it from sourceforge
14:51.24shadeslayerannma: ok ill have a looksie
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14:51.53annmaI think soprano in kdesupport should give you the link
14:53.03shadeslayerannma: well i have soprano daemon and libsoprano but nepomuk says it needs virtuoso RDF server
14:53.18annmayou have that from what
14:53.35annmayou said for compiling so I assumed you compiled soprano
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14:54.00shadeslayerannma: no i said i needed the RDF server for compiling rest are packages
14:54.24annmaand why don't you have virtuoso as a package
14:54.35annmathis is a distro bug then
14:55.02shadeslayerannma: yes probably but i need nepomuk so i want to compile it...
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14:55.23annmasome googling should get you the link
14:56.03shadeslayeryeah im trying
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15:15.20szalhow do I set KMail to automatically quote the msg I respond to?  can't seem to find that setting..  I had it all set up in the past, but some update seems to have broken compatibility w/ the old imported settings (originally from KDE3-KMail)
15:15.21annmaszal: it's default
15:15.21annmawhat does it do for you currently?
15:15.21szalannma: originally it gave me a blank editor page, now that I have set up default templates and insertion of signature, it also gives me those, but no quoted message
15:15.22annmain Configure KMail -> Composer
15:15.22annmaGeneral tab
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15:15.22szaland?
15:15.28annmaStandard Templates
15:15.47annmain Reply to Sender, do you have %QUOTE
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15:17.18SIGMAXHi, I can't get Kopete go through proxy, proxy for system has been set, online update can run with no problem, any ideas?
15:17.59szalannma: ah, I get the concept, thanks
15:18.27annma:)
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15:31.02szalis there a guide on setting up these templates?  I have a particular problem now -> I put '%OTOMNAME <%OTOADDR>' there to show the receiving address(es) of the original msg; now when this contains more than 1 address it first shows all names, then all mail addresses (name1 name2 name3 <address1> <address2> <address3>), but I'd like it to show each address after the name it belongs to (name 1 <address1>; name2
15:31.04szal<address2>; name3 <address3>) <- (how) can that be done?
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15:51.54szalis there a guide on setting up these templates?  I have a particular problem now -> I put '%OTOMNAME <%OTOADDR>' there to show the receiving address(es) of the original msg; now when this contains more than 1 address it first shows all names, then all mail addresses (name1 name2 name3 <address1> <address2> <address3>), but I'd like it to show each address after the name it belongs to (name 1 <address1>; name2
15:51.54szal<address2>; name3 <address3>) <- (how) can that be done?
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16:51.48beyecixramd_i need help, looks like KDE is not using nepomuk, not for the search app, neither Dolphin uses nepomuk, what's more, in Dolphin, when i search "foo" it displays the address as "nepomuksearch:/foo", so i think nepomuk's not working
16:52.38boom1992last one is absolutely normal I think ;)
16:52.45boom1992I mean the nepomuksearch:/foo ;)
16:52.48beyecixramd_oh
16:52.50beyecixramd_well
16:52.58beyecixramd_but it won't display anything anyway
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16:53.08beyecixramd_i think Dolphin tries to use it
16:53.40boom1992beyecixramd_: I wonder if you have tagged etc anything already?
16:53.40beyecixramd_but just because it can't fin nepomuk, disconnects
16:53.40boom1992ahh...
16:53.49boom1992mmh..
16:53.49beyecixramd_find*
16:53.49boom1992does dolphin show an error?
16:53.49beyecixramd_no, it doesn't
16:53.50beyecixramd_by the way
16:53.50beyecixramd_tagging?
16:53.50beyecixramd_i mean
16:53.58beyecixramd_in Windows and Ubuntu, AFAIK, there's an indexing option
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16:54.10beyecixramd_so you just type in what you want to search, and it shows you the results
16:54.14beyecixramd_almost instantly
16:54.18beyecixramd_is this possible in KDE?
16:54.25boom1992mmh yo that should works ure ;)
16:54.33beyecixramd_whut
16:54.46boom1992although did it index your files already?
16:54.53beyecixramd_nepomuk?
16:55.06beyecixramd_dont know and dont think so
16:55.06beyecixramd_can i check it?
16:55.06boom1992ok well, check your systemtray ;)
16:55.09annmawhat indexes files in Ubuntu?
16:55.11boom1992if there's something nepomuk-wise running ;)
16:55.15boom1992annma: tracker I guess
16:55.20boom1992anyway... I'm afk
16:55.22boom1992cu later
16:55.24beyecixramd_nothing
16:55.27beyecixramd_amarok, kopete...
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16:55.29beyecixramd_u.u
16:55.31beyecixramd_byw
16:55.34beyecixramd_bye*
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16:56.25Half-LeftStrigi indexes your files, Nepomuk picks up the tags and file data
16:56.37beyecixramd_humm okay
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16:56.56beyecixramd_but there's "strigi is not running"
16:56.59beyecixramd_according to KDE
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16:57.42Half-Leftin systemsettings?
16:57.43beyecixramd_in nepomuk/strigi settings, control panel, yes
16:57.54beyecixramd_i try to enable it
16:57.58Half-LeftWhat does it exactly say?
16:58.11beyecixramd_and it gives me an error, "possibily because of an installation problem"
16:58.19beyecixramd_i would send you screens, but my system's in spanish
16:58.39Half-LeftMkae sure your distro has the right packages installed for it
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16:58.41Half-Leftmake*
16:58.47beyecixramdArch
16:58.58beyecixramdand doing yaourt -Ss strigi doesn't show a single package
16:59.16Half-LeftAs I know of, Arch only uses the Redland backend, which is very slow
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16:59.24beyecixramdtrue
16:59.27beyecixramdbtw, how to change it :D
16:59.32beyecixramdKDEMod also
16:59.47Half-LeftYou need the sesame2 backend which uses Java
16:59.49beyecixramdno, wait, strigi's installed
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17:00.26beyecixramdno package provides sesame2 anyway
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17:00.40beyecixramdso strigi's installed but not working, why?
17:00.41Half-LeftWell, that's ArchLinux
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17:01.01Half-LeftNot it still needs a backend to work really
17:01.15Half-LeftSound like an ArchLinux issue
17:01.24beyecixramdit already uses redland
17:01.28beyecixramdisn't that ok?
17:01.37Half-LeftIt's terribly slow
17:01.50beyecixramdokay
17:01.55beyecixramdbut it should still work
17:02.02beyecixramdi mean, strigi's not even starting
17:02.10Half-Leftwell, sort of but
17:02.26Half-Left4.3?
17:02.33beyecixramduhmm
17:02.56Half-LeftI never had good results with redland
17:02.57beyecixramd4.3.4-1
17:03.02beyecixramdKDEMod
17:03.11beyecixramdso it's "improved" against vanilla KDE
17:03.14beyecixramdat least in Arch
17:03.20Half-LeftSesame2 always worked way better
17:03.29beyecixramdso
17:03.37beyecixramdyou say, if i install sesame2, strigi should work?
17:04.06Half-LeftIt should do, you'll have to ask your distro channel about it
17:04.16beyecixramdit's always empty
17:04.26beyecixramdand in #archlinux, they tell me to get here
17:04.37beyecixramd#kdemod is empty, i mean
17:04.54ChemBroit's chakra
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17:05.01ChemBro#chakra
17:05.07beyecixramdno, wait
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17:05.12Half-LeftThe distro's I've tried worked with sesame2 enabled
17:05.14beyecixramdit's #archlinux-kdemod
17:05.32beyecixramdempty anyway
17:05.57beyecixramdi cant believe no one is experiencing this
17:06.03boom1992#archlinux-kdemod isn't empty nor is #chakra ;)
17:06.05Half-LeftI Can't speak for Arch because I never got sesame2 working properly as I remember
17:06.08boom1992and both should be merged in latter
17:06.21boom1992Half-Left: you needed to install openjdk6 afair
17:06.27boom1992there was some issue with that...
17:06.27Half-LeftYes
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17:06.37beyecixramdnot emtpy
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17:06.43Half-LeftBut with 64bit it seems to not work proper
17:06.46beyecixramdempty* but very idle
17:07.00boom1992beyecixramd: sure, #chakra is the main channel now ;)
17:07.12beyecixramdoh, lawd
17:07.14beyecixramdmy bad
17:07.16beyecixramdill try here
17:07.23beyecixramdbut i expect no responses anyway
17:07.38beyecixramdaah there it is
17:07.40beyecixramdhttp://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=1292
17:07.42boom1992beyecixramd: ok do so :) I won't be able to help, gonna leave now again and not only for 5 minutes :)
17:10.10beyecixramdthat's the exact same error KDEMod shows me
17:10.10beyecixramdopenjdk6
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17:13.12beyecixramdso how do i switch backends?
17:13.13beyecixramdvirtuoso-redland-sesame2 etc
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17:17.49Ronis_BRhow can I set rekonq to be default kde browser?
17:17.50annmain systemsettings there's a module to set your own default apps
17:17.50annmaDefault Applications
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17:17.50Ronis_BRannma: no, I mean, in krunner when you type man:ls it open man page for ls, how can I make it open at rekonq?
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17:17.50annmayou said default kde browser which was what I answered
17:17.51annmanow you're saying you ONLY want rekonq opening man pages from krunner?
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17:18.19Ronis_BRannma: man pages, google searchs etc
17:18.48annmabut only from krunner? not as your KDE default browser?
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17:19.32Ronis_BRannma: the both :)
17:19.39Ronis_BRannma: I want that kde uses rekonq to everything
17:20.15pinotreethen it is what annma told you already
17:20.35Ronis_BRpinotree: to doesn't make krunner open things at rekonq
17:20.44Ronis_BRlike gg:<text> to search <text> on google
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17:21.53annmaRonis_BR: it works with firefox
17:22.06annmawhat is opened for you then?
17:22.11Ronis_BRkonqueror
17:22.19annmatry firefox
17:22.20Ronis_BRALT+F2 gg:test
17:22.38Ronis_BRwhat do you mean?
17:22.40annmawhat IRC client do you have?
17:22.49annmawait, what IRC client do you use?
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17:23.19Ronis_BRannma: Konversation, wait a second I'll restart KDE
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17:23.31annmadamn
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17:23.49Nikoliwhat command can I use for opening file with default app for it's mime type?
17:24.06Sho_Nikoli: xdg-open
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17:24.27annmadances around Sho_
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17:24.39Sho_disco-annma
17:24.40MoultIS SOMEBODAY DANCIN
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17:25.00Ronis_BRannma: well, gg:<text> is working, but things like man isn't :)
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17:25.20annmalike man and what
17:25.50pinotreeman: is a kde-specific thing, so kde cannot know the custom browser you set supports that (and mostly don't, see eg firefox or opera)
17:26.21NikoliSho_, thank you! :)
17:26.23Nikoliwill change firefox settings now
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17:26.26Sho_Nikoli: happy to help
17:26.54Nikolido you know why it is not default behaviour in ff?
17:27.14pinotree(because firefox has no sense of "integration")
17:27.21annmaman: is not working at all for me anyway
17:27.27factordoes kaffeinie have a way to detect a directoy that has a new file in it
17:27.30Ronis_BRrekonq supports man:
17:28.00Nikolipinotree, but they do not use wine
17:28.01Ronis_BRbtw, wine associated many things to notepad and microsoft office, how can I remove all of them?
17:28.15pinotreeNikoli: ?
17:28.17factorlike only show directories that have had file changes with the last xxx
17:28.18annmaman:ls does nothing at all for me, it stays like that in krunner
17:28.26annmaRonis_BR: ^^
17:28.33annmaso be happy it works for you
17:28.50Ronis_BRit owkrs but open konqueror
17:28.53Ronis_BRworks*
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17:28.59annmaso be happy
17:29.08Nikolipinotree, ff is ported without using wine, so it is integrated
17:29.17pinotreeNikoli: LOL
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17:29.50Nikoli:D
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17:31.58beyecixramdokay, strigi enabled, but still having problems
17:32.59beyecixramd"The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice was not provided by any .service files"
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17:49.39Sabioso_Any idea what is wrong? http://pastehtml.com/view/5sjefz4.html
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17:51.12pinotreeSabioso_: stop that
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17:51.52Marchitosi am using opensuse, and i am trying to compile timevault, here is cmake out: PolkitQtConfig.cmake
17:51.54Marchitossorry
17:51.57PyroPeterpinotree: did I miss flash or animated pictures?
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17:52.19Marchitoshere is the out: http://pastebin.ca/1717200
17:52.22pinotreeMarchitos: ask to its developer
17:52.36Marchitosit's missing this PolkitQtConfig..
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17:52.43Marchitosi had installed all related pkg
17:53.05Marchitosbut cmake still tell me it couldn't find it
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18:12.20NikoliSho_, how can I disable execution of sh and other scripts in xdg-open?
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18:12.49KWhat_Workcan you not duplicated folders in dolphin?
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18:13.09KWhat_WorkIE i click a folder, i ctrl+c or rt click -> copy
18:13.12KWhat_Workthen then paste
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18:13.34nullkuhl_how to install kde4(latest released version) on ubuntu karmic koala ??
18:13.38KWhat_Workand it does something stupid like tries to copy folders inside of the folder im trying to duplicate
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18:13.44Sho_Nikoli: not sure what you mean
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18:13.53Ronis_BRhi all
18:14.13NikoliSho_, do xdg-open ~/hello-world.sh
18:14.16Ronis_BRhow can I restart kde settings, like apps. association and style, without erasing .kde4 and loosing all my contacts and emails?
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18:14.33bastiandgnullkuhl_: normally its "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destop"
18:14.38Nikoliwhere this script is "echo 123"
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18:15.34Nikolikonqueror asks me if I really want to execute something, but xdg-open and 'kfmclient exec' does not
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18:16.18Sho_Nikoli: I don't know, sorry
18:16.27Nikolieh
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18:16.42Sho_Nikoli: xdg-open is basically a simple shell script that checks what desktop is running and runs the relevant tool, e.g. kfmclient
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18:17.18Nikoliso I need to find kfmclient exec option
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18:48.03angasuleWorkI found a bug in the handling of unicode for egyptian hieroglyphs when using XML entities in konqueror, somehow I don't see it being a priority ^_^
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18:53.10vicky_hi, all. is anyone familiar with this error:
18:53.10vicky_x-terminal-emulator: Fatal IO error: client killed
18:53.10vicky_kDebugStream called after destruction (from virtual Konsole::SessionManager::~SessionManager() file ../../../../apps/konsole/src/SessionManager.cpp line 301)
18:53.10vicky_Konsole SessionManager destroyed with sessions still alive
18:53.11vicky_vicky_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
18:53.13vicky_it is from .xsession-errors file
18:53.54pinotreevicky_: that means konsole crashed
18:54.26vicky_it happens on kdm login
18:55.31vicky_what could I do to log into the system?
18:56.05vicky_when I try to log in, there is a short blink. And then I see a login screen again
18:56.13vicky_I thought it is of this error
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18:56.27pinotreeis that the only error?
18:56.53vicky_yes. at least in .xsession-errors
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19:22.47ryrychhuh... it's another attempt ;) can you folks help me out? http://pastie.org/746087
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19:27.52pinotreeold libattica, update it
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19:33.24chgonzalezcan I compile folderview plasmoid without having to compile all kdebase?
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19:36.41annmawhat kde version?
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19:37.01carl-is there some command i can issue from cli to disable the kde screensaver ???
19:37.02annmayou need the correct kdelibs and then you need to run cmake in kdeworkspace
19:37.46chgonzalezkde 4.3.4
19:38.14chgonzalezco i "cmake" in kdebase and then "make" and "make install" in folderview/ ??
19:38.24chgonzalezis it right?
19:39.28annmayes
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19:40.01chgonzalezok, i'll try
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19:40.43chgonzalezoops
19:40.45chgonzalezCMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:10 (macro_optional_find_package):
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19:41.40annmawhat kdebase version and what kdelibs version do you have
19:41.44ryrychpinotree: can't find any attica library in ubuntu repos
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19:41.57chgonzalezannma: 4.3.4
19:42.07chgonzalezi'm using SRPMS from fedora
19:42.10annmaall is 4.3.4?
19:42.25chgonzalezi've patched folderview and I want to compile justt it
19:42.28chgonzalezyes, all is 4.3.4
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19:53.18Nikolihm, seems xdg-open is secure with kde4.3+firefox
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19:54.12Nikoliit does execute files after downloading because they are 644
19:54.18Nikoli*does not
19:55.01Nikolihow can I change systemwide mime type association?
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19:56.26Half-Leftsystemsettings>Advanced>File Association
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19:57.48subitohi, is there a way to make kde look like gnome for people who wants to switch to kde but not too fast?
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19:58.14annmasubito: not too fast???
19:58.29Half-Leftsubito: Qt comes with native GTK theming
19:58.37Half-Leftso yes
19:58.37NikoliHalf-Left, _for all users_
19:58.39annmaeither you like gnome and you use it or you like KDE
19:58.49subitoannma: i have a friend that wants to switch but he wants to keep gnome looks
19:59.02annmaif he loves gnome he should keep t
19:59.03annmait
19:59.15subitohe loves gnome look, that's all
19:59.33annmadefine look
19:59.54Half-LeftUse the GTK+ theme setting then
20:00.02Half-LeftThat's what it's for
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20:00.25subitoannma: the way the desktop look (with the bar on the top and all)
20:00.41annmahe can keep it and run kde apps on it
20:01.44subitoyes but he often prefer the kde counterpart of some programs so using only kde apps and gnome is kind of weird
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20:03.19pinotreeryrych: you have to compile it from kdesupport
20:03.59Half-Leftsubito: Use QtCurve or Cleanlooks then in the systemsettings
20:05.57ryrychpinotree but I compilled kdesupport yesterday
20:06.10ryrychpinotree: whole kdesupport
20:06.34pinotreedid you actually check that attica was compiled?
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20:09.28ryrychpinotree: I'll check it once again
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20:13.31ryrychpinotree: here's the output: http://pastie.org/746173
20:13.57pinotreesays nothing
20:16.46ryrychpinotree: so how can I provide you more feedback so that you can help me?
20:17.25pinotree`make`, and see whether it is compiling attica
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20:18.52buzz|hi there
20:19.02buzz|can someone help to solve these problems: http://pastebin.ca/1717337
20:19.08ryrychpinotree: "-- Up-to-date: /home/kde-devel/kde/lib/libattica.so.0.1.1 "
20:20.21pinotreei guess you svn up in attica, right?
20:21.55ryrychpinotree I made svn up in the kdesupport directly
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20:22.43ryrychpinotree: from attica: "At revision 1063049."
20:23.28wilhartwhere do i see what version of kde i'm using
20:23.33pinotreeok, then try to compile kdebase again
20:23.41Torchwilhart: help -> about  kde in any kde app
20:23.43pinotreewilhart: in any kde application, help → about kde
20:23.44DjMadnessWhats required to be able to turn off cpu's with powerdevil ? (my cpu does support it, i am able to turn it off with the /sys filesystem)
20:24.08wilhartKDE 4.3.2
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20:24.21wilhartare there repos for 4.3.4 ?
20:24.26wilhartin ubuntu
20:24.39Torchwilhart: ask on #kubuntu
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20:31.53ryrychpinotree: http://pastie.org/746201 :(
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20:33.18pinotreei guess you svn up'ed also kdebase, right?
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20:37.51subitois there a way to place the widget in a panel without using the spacers but by placing them is an 'absolute' way?
20:37.51subitothe widgets*
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20:39.38subitois there a way to place the widgets in a panel without using the spacers but by placing them is an 'absolute' way?
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20:40.36ryrychpinotree: that's right
20:41.02Half-Leftsubito: No
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20:42.16subitoHalf-Left: why?
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20:42.55Half-LeftHow it was design I should imagine or to being sanity to chaos
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20:43.47subitosomebody should have added it, it might be useful
20:43.49Torchsubito: containments are supposed to intelligenty manage their plasmoids. that makes sense as long as it works well. most of the time it does ;-)
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20:44.37subitoTorch: but sometimes you want to place somethings exactly there and there and it's not convenient to do it with spacers
20:46.14Half-LeftWell, it work how it works, it doesn't need to follow how other panels work
20:46.56Torchsubito: i know what you mean. that's not how it is designed, though.
20:47.40Half-LeftIf your panel is full, you can do that of course
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20:48.10subitomaybe i should add this feature ;d
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20:48.59Half-Leftsubito: ask in for the details on why #plasma
20:49.07Half-Leftugh
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20:49.25Half-Leftask in #plasma for the details and why*
20:49.34Half-Leftbad grammar
20:49.36subitook i'll ask
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21:14.23deadeyeshi all
21:14.32deadeyesI am trying to get a subversion checkout
21:14.50deadeyesbut I get this error:
21:14.51deadeyessvn co http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.3.3/kdenetwork
21:14.52deadeyessvn: Repository moved permanently to '/tags/KDE/4.3.3/kdenetwork/'; please relocate
21:15.12deadeyesdoes anyone what I am doing wrong?
21:15.14Half-Leftdont' use tags
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21:15.27pinotreewebsvn is not a svn repository
21:15.33deadeyesHalf-Left: how can I get the sources for krdc-4.3.3 then?
21:15.48pinotreedownload the release tarball, for example
21:15.58deadeyespinotree: where do I find it?
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21:16.26pinotreeftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.3.3/src
21:18.12Half-Leftpinotree: What is "tags" anyway?
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21:18.27pinotreea tag is a release
21:18.48Half-Leftyeah but there is loads of other stuff in there
21:18.57Half-LeftNever seen that before
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21:20.44deadeyespinotree: okm will take a look there
21:20.44deadeyespinotree: thanks
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21:21.58TorchHalf-Left: in svn you mark a point in time with a tag. this does not necessarily have to be a release.
21:22.49Half-LeftTorch: on the whole kde repo, not matter what's in it?
21:22.59TorchHalf-Left: nope. for some dir
21:23.11TorchHalf-Left: it's like a copy operation to some backup dir.
21:23.24Half-Leftoh
21:24.21TorchHalf-Left: it's very common to tag the state of the sources in some dir before beginning a potentially dangerous and disrupting code change.
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21:25.39Half-LeftTorch: Sounds scary, I remember this the first time I used svn :p
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21:33.16ryrychpinotree: is there any light in the end of the tunnel for me? :)
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22:21.35Andr3wUok so plasma-desktop froze yet again
22:21.37Andr3wUwhat do i do ehre
22:21.39Andr3wUhere*
22:22.23RiotingPacifistis digikam not part of kde? like amarok?
22:24.12Andr3wUit stores stuff in .kde
22:24.19Andr3wUyou won't be filing bugs for it at bugs.kde.org though :P
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22:31.45szalRiotingPacifist: neither Amarok nor digiKam are part of KDE
22:32.36RiotingPacifistthx that's what i thought just wanted to make sure i wasn't spreading miss information
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22:53.14krikocan someone open kwrite and furiously click in empty text area? do you get a crash?
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22:58.40vadi01kriko: nope
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23:01.28tdfischerno just a cramp
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23:02.04sreichno, but maybe I'm not furious enough
23:02.16sreichfrom trunk
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23:02.51krikoI can actually reproduce it on 4.3.4
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23:04.29krikoso probably it's fixed in 4.4
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23:07.44watermindis there some nice KDE app to edit pdfs?
23:07.50watermindcan okular do that?
23:07.55pinotreeno
23:08.07watermindpinotree: no to 1st question or just 2nd
23:08.26tdfischerediting a pdf isn't easy on any platform
23:08.28pinotreeto the latter; to the former, i dunno
23:09.02tdfischeryou can easily convert a PDF to some other format that you can edit, but directly editing a PDF is near impossible from what I know
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23:10.35watermindtdfischer: well I have a doc
23:10.57watermindtdfischer: opened in OpenOffice and vertical text in tables is messed up
23:11.05watermindtdfischer: saved in odt, corrected saved
23:11.26watermindtdfischer: when I reopen the doc vertical text is all scrambled again
23:11.42watermindtdfischer: therefore me considering exporting to pdf
23:11.44watermindsoooo
23:11.58watermindgoing from doc -> odt -> pdf -> odt
23:11.59watermindnah
23:12.04waterminddoesn't seem likely to work
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23:12.17pinotreepdf is mostly not meant for editing
23:12.20watermindI know
23:12.41watermindlike I said, I have doc
23:12.43watermindand odt
23:12.48watermindthose are meant for editing
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23:12.54watermindbut this is really not working
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23:15.32watermindproblem is, I wish I could just sent an angry email to those who sent the doc file
23:15.32watermindbut this is not _my_ stuff
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23:25.45wilharthey ppl....
23:26.00wilharti'm in system settings -> appearance -> windows
23:26.18wilharthere i can load a new theme for windows and when i load and apply no style is changed?
23:26.29wilharthow do i get it so style would change too ?
23:26.32wilhartis this a bug?
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23:30.57tdfischerwilhart: sounds like it
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23:33.19wilhartkwin-style-aurorae - Theme engine for KWin window decorations
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23:44.32Mouseyhi,
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23:45.57Mouseyhow do i get SOCKS working in KDE apps? there seems to be no place in any KDE-centric app to designate localhost:port for a SOCKS proxy (a la ssh -D)
23:46.54Mouseyalso debian
23:47.14Mousey(but distro doesn't seem to matter, none i've ever found have proxy fields for SOCKS)
23:48.25Mouseyalso, how do i get knetworkmanager to do pptp? seems unpossible, even thought i have network-manager-pptp installed
23:48.42Mouseyoh, nix the last ?, fixed with nm-aplet
23:48.45Mousey+p
23:49.10Mouseyyah. would love to switch to kopete/konversation, but no SOCKS proxy fields. any help would be nice, ty
23:49.42Sho_Mousey: Konversation 1.2.1 has SOCKS proxy support
23:49.54Sho_enjoy
23:49.58Mouseyyay
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23:50.09Mouseytho kopete is really the more desirable one =(
23:50.17Mouseyi don't really like pidgin anymore =(
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