IRC log for #kde on 20091212

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00:03.43rosahello
00:03.53rosais kde 4.4 for ubuntu repos?
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00:08.21DrSlonyKonqueror has text-to-speech in settings > configure extension, but how do i use it?
00:08.36DrSlonycant find a "read" button, no similar keyboard shortcut exists.
00:09.11DrSlonythe (i)nfo panel is useless
00:09.22pinotreebecause you have no kttsd installed
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00:10.32DrSlonyaha, thank you
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00:29.38jaemis it possible to enter an actual WPA2 *key* in knetworkmanager4, rather than the passphrase?
00:31.53jaemoh never mind - I misunderstood something
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00:52.16hagabakadoes anyone notice that when typing, sometimes characters are entered in the wrong order?
00:52.35aliciapgdoes anyone have experience with kdenlive?
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00:53.02hagabakait usually happens when CPU usage is high
00:53.20DrSlonynope
00:54.09aliciapganyone?
00:54.48DrSlonyaliciapg i have a little experience with it
00:55.12aliciapgcool do you think you could try and help me get it running?
00:55.54DrSlonyaliciapg next time ask your question first, then people who know how to help you will chime in, or not. :]
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00:56.01DrSlony*proper question
00:56.04DrSlony"dont ask to ask, just ask"
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00:56.29aliciapgi've been doing that in other channels and no one responds at all >-<
00:56.46pinotreebe patient, don't ask "anyone" after 2 minutes
00:57.13aliciapgpinotree: it's been longer then two minutes
00:57.30pinotreehere, two minutes
00:57.40bash`hi all, I built 4.3.80, I started it and...menu is empty! but I can start apps from krunner. any ideas?
00:57.52Jucatoaliciapg: there's a #kdenlive channel it seems
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00:58.18aliciapgJucato: yes, i already asked my question there a while ago
00:58.35DrSlonyaliciapg what is the problem?
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00:59.25aliciapgDrSlony: every time i try and start the program i get an error msg saying The application Kdenlive (kdenlive) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).
00:59.55DrSlonyany errors in the console?
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01:00.33aliciapgDrSlony: uhm i'm not sure
01:00.47bash`kmenuedit(18022)/kio (KIOJob) KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch: error  111   "/home/user/.local/share//applications"
01:00.47aliciapgit looks like a warning but...
01:00.54DrSlonyalt+f2 > konsole
01:00.57DrSlonyrun kdenlive from there
01:01.06aliciapgDrSlony: i did
01:01.09DrSlonythen copypasta the errors to paste2.org or pastebin.something
01:01.43paul424copypasta is some italian meal ?
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01:02.19aliciapghttp://pastebin.com/d74a7b85
01:02.23DrSlony:]
01:02.31xxtjaxx:)
01:04.02DrSlonya recompile of kdenlive and/or mlt++ comes to mind
01:04.10DrSlonydoes /usr/share/mlt/profiles/ exist at all?
01:04.45aliciapgyeah it exists
01:07.12aliciapgDrSlony: how would i recompile if that's what you suggest
01:07.30DrSlony<PROTECTED>
01:07.46DrSlonyi remember having lots of mlt issues with kdenlive in the long ago
01:07.54DrSlonyrecently it became much more stable
01:08.08aliciapghm...alright i'll try that
01:08.10aliciapgthanks DrSlony
01:08.30xxtjaxxHidiho Testing kde trunk and get undefined symbol in a library of my builds whats wrong there?
01:08.40bash`someone can help me with my problem? Kmenu is empty here
01:08.40DrSlonyaliciapg what distro are you using by th e way?
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01:08.50aliciapgDrSlony: ubuntu 9.04
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01:10.25ryrychhello, what's the name for dev package(s) to build opengl? I want to compile kdeartwork :)
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01:10.59DrSlonyaliciapg : google says either upgrade kdenlive or upgrade mlt
01:11.11DrSlony"kdenlive new package version 0.7.3-0ubuntu2 is in the repos and solves the crash on startup"
01:11.26DrSlony*downgrade mlt
01:11.27DrSlony"the new package version of mlt (0.3.8-0ubuntu2) seem to be the cause of the crash, with the previous package version all was ok"
01:11.47aliciapgDrSlony: how would i downgrade...?
01:11.58DrSlonyaliciapg #ubuntu
01:12.11DrSlonyi dont drink coffee.
01:12.19aliciapghaha okay then thanks
01:12.27DrSlony;]
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02:38.01duryodhanhi, is there any one file which I could save that would have all my KDE settings (like global shortcuts, default browsers etc. etc. )?
02:38.24Torchduryodhan: not a file. but your $HOME/.kde directory.
02:40.49saethrhttp://saethr.ath.cx/img/w1.png
02:40.55saethrhttp://saethr.ath.cx/img/w.png
02:40.57saethrhttp://saethr.ath.cx/img/grip.png
02:40.59saethr:S iono
02:41.33Torchsaethr: what's this about?
02:43.01saethr:O
02:43.05saethr:/
02:43.06saethr:|
02:43.07duryodhanTorch: it contains too much stuff .. doesn't it contain my amarok DB etc. too ?
02:43.54Jucatoduryodhan: ~/.kde/share/config/ will contain the config files
02:44.16saethrwhen does kde 7 come oout?
02:44.18Torchduryodhan: probably it does.
02:44.20Jucatojust be aware that some configurations might require application data that is found in ~/.kde/share/apps/<appname>/
02:44.24saethri overheard something about kde 7 today
02:44.32saethrdunno if its going from 3 to 4 to 7
02:44.33Jucato...
02:44.34saethr:/ but
02:44.45TorchJucato: you're op, right?
02:44.56JucatoTorch: why?
02:45.05TorchJucato: if this is going to go on for a while ;-)
02:45.15saethrwow.
02:45.19saethrfascism
02:45.23Jucatosaethr isn't usually like this. just going to give him a chance to behave
02:45.25saethrshuts his mouth
02:45.36TorchJucato: didn't know that ;-)
02:45.41saethrseriously though, Jucato ... fascism
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02:45.55saethr:)
02:46.04saethrim not like what by the way?
02:46.16saethrall i did was post some screens for the enjoyment or amusement of others
02:46.18Torchsaethr: i'm sure you're cool and all. just didn't know you.
02:46.18saethrand ask about kde 7
02:46.32saethrTorch: its all good.
02:46.33Jucatoand mini-flood with emoticons
02:46.43saethrthats what happens with prejudice, and hence its name
02:46.48saethrPRE judgment
02:47.14saethremoticons..... faces..... life water..... whatever you wanna call it i understand what youre saying
02:47.14sandsmarkno, it was after you acted like an asshat :-P
02:47.15Jucatonext time, when you do post URL's, identify what they're for and try to keep them in a single line.
02:47.19sandsmarkso it was just judgement
02:47.27saethrasshat.... :/
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02:48.03saethrlol sandsmark
02:48.05saethr:/
02:48.08sandsmark:-P
02:48.09saethrthat was asshat status
02:48.27duryodhanJucato: thanks!
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02:53.10sabat_is this the proper channel to ask kdebluetooth questions in? or is there a channel for it?
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02:54.18sabat_my goal is to make kdebluetooth stop asking for confirmation for accepting a file sent from my phone. it asks after every one
02:56.03Jucatonot sure with kdebluetooth (can't remember how it works) but I'm guessing there should be an option there to set your phone as a trusted device and/or automatically accept incoming requests?
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03:05.04Helsinkiiihi
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03:05.30HelsinkiiiI installed Kopete on Ubuntu, and a bunch of KDE lib stuff was installed. does this create a conflict in Ubuntu, or not?
03:05.38TorchHelsinkiii: no.
03:05.45Helsinkiiiok
03:05.47TorchHelsinkiii: you can use any KDE app you like
03:05.55Helsinkiiiok
03:05.59HelsinkiiiI just love Oxygen Icons
03:06.02TorchHelsinkiii: of course, if you use the full desktop you'll get additional benefits.
03:06.06Helsinkiiii found them by accident
03:06.22HelsinkiiiTorch, what's better in KDE than Gnome
03:06.37Helsinkiiiand can i get KDE from within Ubuntu entirely
03:06.48Jucatoyeah, #kubuntu
03:06.49TorchHelsinkiii: you need to find that out for yourself.
03:06.50sabat_my goal is to make kdebluetooth stop asking for confirmation for accepting a file sent from my phone. it asks after every one. I've looked into pairing and all sorts of stuff, but nothins seems to work
03:07.13sabat_i have to click yes on my pc for every file
03:07.21HelsinkiiiTorch, all i get is conflicting arguments
03:07.30TorchHelsinkiii: yes, no problem. on any distro you can switch between KDE and gnome. just ask on #kubuntu how that works.
03:08.10TorchHelsinkiii: use what you like better and what suits your needs. check out both.
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03:14.05HelsinkiiiTorch; i just figured it out
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03:14.28HelsinkiiiTOrch: KDE is bloated, unecessarily 3D and ugly, causes crashes, and hogs memory
03:14.34TorchHelsinkiii: yep ;-)
03:14.39TorchHelsinkiii: that's why i use it ;-)
03:14.47Helsinkiiiwhy?
03:14.48sabat_i ended up getting my phone paired, but i notice that the kbluetooth calls it not trrusted, how can i make it trusted.
03:15.07HelsinkiiiI figured out how I like my desktop. Gnome w/Oxygen icons
03:15.09Helsinkiiiperfect
03:15.15TorchHelsinkiii: some people might say that. many others think that's wrong. there's no point in discussing it further.
03:15.23Helsinkiiiyou smell
03:15.26TorchHelsinkiii: great, just use it.
03:15.31TorchHelsinkiii: i do?
03:15.35Helsinkiiia tiny bit
03:15.37Helsinkiiibut it's ok
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03:24.13pembo13does does one configure the weather desktop wallpaper in the USA
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04:46.35Vamp898how can i find out why "Invert Colors" does not work for me (The Desktop Effect)
04:46.40Vamp898it works with Compiz Fusion but not with KWin
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04:47.45Jucatoworks for me. KDE 4.3.3 on Fedora 12
04:48.13Vamp898im using an Intel Mobile Series 4 Card
04:48.21Vamp898KDE 4.3.4, Qt 4.6, Gentoo
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04:49.06Jucatonot sure then. all other desktop effects work fine?
04:49.28Vamp898yes
04:49.38Vamp898i did not tried all, but i enabled much and all worked
04:49.57Vamp898oh
04:50.03Vamp898Screenlupe does not work too
04:51.00Jucatomight be a limitation on the graphics card or driver (because it's an IGP) ... not entirely sure though. have you tried asking in #gentoo-kde ? might also try waiting for an answer here from someone who might have similar hardware
04:51.00Vamp898And snowfall can be enabled, but not used
04:52.18Vamp898i did not asked in #gentoo-kde beceause this happens on Archlinux and openSUSE too
04:52.41Jucatoah then I'm guessing it's really a hardware case
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04:53.22Vamp898can it be helped in any way? i already tried with indirect rendering, but did not helped
04:54.48Jucatonot sure really, sorry.
04:56.00Vamp898np
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05:11.19paul424any developers here ?
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05:17.19Torchpaul424: just ask your question.
05:17.35paul424Which code is responsible for directly writing into RAMDAC memory area ?
05:17.37paul424I want to write some extension which would do something simiiilar to gamma adjustment .....
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05:22.05paul424Wow epic feedback
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06:55.28zubin71hello
06:55.40zubin71ive a new user of of KDE
06:55.53Vamp898nice =)
06:55.53zubin71is there an easy way to install themes?
06:55.59Vamp898yes
06:56.01Vamp898very easy
06:56.10zubin71Vamp898 : could you help?
06:56.15Vamp898Go to the System Settings  (K-Menu --> Computer --> Systemsettings)
06:56.17zubin71Vamp898 : thnkx in advance... ;-)
06:56.41Vamp898than klick on appearance
06:57.00Vamp898than you have the cathegories on the left
06:57.10Vamp898if you want new stuff (for example icons) you can click on icons
06:57.15zubin71Vamp898 : ok
06:57.17Vamp898and click on "Get new icons" at the bottom
06:57.28Vamp898than you have a list with icon themes on the internet
06:57.30zubin71i see...
06:57.34Vamp898klick on what you want and on install =)
06:57.41zubin71cool...! :-)
06:58.10Vamp898the same with Colorshemes =)
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06:58.25zubin71i see...
06:58.38zubin71Vamp898 : are you a KDE developer?
06:59.04Vamp898no^^
06:59.32zubin71Vamp898 : ok... :)
06:59.47zubin71Vamp898 : thankx a load! bye... :)
06:59.53Vamp898but i know KDE since the version on SuSE 8.0 (KDE 3.0 as i remember correctly)
06:59.58Vamp898cya
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07:01.25Vamp898There seems to be something wrong with VLC in KDE
07:01.29Vamp898when i switch to Fullscreen
07:01.38Vamp898i still can see the Kicker (or what it is now in plasma)
07:02.10Vamp898oh now
07:02.16Vamp898not more, dont know why but it works xD
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09:28.49sujith_hI clicked "Do not ask again" check box in an application. And after that I am not able to see it. How can i enable the dialog box again?
09:29.09annmawhat app?
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09:29.50daredevilfuryyou could try the "Configure Notifications" settings if its a kde app
09:29.52annmasujith_h: what app and what dialog?
09:30.58sujith_hannma: Nice to see you. Actually I modified the code of the timer applet. And I added a pop up dialog box and removed knotification. In the dialog box there was a check box "Do not ask again". I checked that and pressed ok
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09:33.35annmasujith_h: isn't there something in the config file?
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09:35.08sujith_hannma: Actually just now i added the KMessageBox into the code. I forgot to add it in the config file.
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09:47.23rindolfHi all.
09:47.52rindolfHow do I add a launcher for the XFCE "Terminal" program to the panel?
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09:48.10KaPtAiNzErOhi
09:48.12annmayou mean an entry in the k menu?
09:48.20rindolfannma: no.
09:48.23rindolfannma: a button.
09:48.29rindolfHi KaPtAiNzErO
09:48.33annmaan icon in the panel then?
09:48.36rindolfannma: yes.
09:48.38KaPtAiNzErOhi
09:48.56annmacan't you drag it from K menu to panel?
09:48.59KaPtAiNzErOwht r u talking about?
09:49.07rindolfannma: it doesn't seem to be there.
09:49.21annmamaybe it has no .desktop file
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09:51.53rindolfannma: OK, I dragged and dropped the X-Chat icon and modified it.
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09:52.38annma:)
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10:00.52KaPtAiNzErOpeople any information about Starting Xserver via ssh
10:01.03KaPtAiNzErOshort way;) please
10:01.08pinotreeKaPtAiNzErO: you should ask in #xorg
10:01.25KaPtAiNzErOthnx
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10:06.34do0obhellp
10:06.36do0obhello
10:07.06do0obany chance dolphin's highlight behaviour can be changed so that in details view the entire row is selected rather than just the name?
10:07.26do0obi've got a massive list of files and its hard to read from the far left to the far right
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10:14.36|moe|having serious issues with the plasmoid weather applet (which changes the wallpaper according to the weather at your location). it does not find any city (bbc-module) - deleting plasma-cache, tmp didn't help. suggestions?
10:14.46woopsHello ! Is there a way to use kmail as a 'client' only on a machine, while all the files are on another ? I have all my mail on my laptop, but I would like to access it on the desktop machine, without needing to copy and synchronize everything.
10:15.20woopssort of kmail as a viewer only
10:15.51|moe|you could a) use imap b) mount the kmail-folder of your notebook to the kmail-folder on your other harddrive or c) use imap
10:16.10annma|moe|: bbc wes broken by BBC
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10:16.45woops|moe|, thank you. I don't know about imap, but the mounting option sounds nice
10:16.47|moe|annma: great deal. spent hours checking everything. thx for the tip! by emphasizing was past tense you mean it's up and running again?
10:17.03annmaI mean the trunk code was fixed
10:17.09annmaBBC changed the API
10:17.20annmaso for 4.4 beta2 it'll work
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10:17.32annmafor your version it cannot befixed
10:17.35|moe|annma: any chance it's backported to 4.3.4 as well?
10:17.42|moe|darn
10:17.52annmawill there be such a 4.3.4?
10:17.59annmaas far as I know 4.3 is stopped
10:18.13annmaI mean a 4.3.5
10:18.28annma4.3.4 is out and you can ask your distro to patch your package if you want
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10:19.29|moe|woops: imap is a way of keeping your mail on the servers and accessing it online (disadvantage: you won't be able to read the mails offline) so the mount-option will work out more nicely. be sure to shut down kmail on the notebook during accessing it from the other pc
10:19.49|moe|annma: that would be a  nice idea - will chbeck with the suse-guys. thank you again!
10:20.16|moe|4.4 is still beta in opensuse and this is my only working system atm. don't want to risk too much
10:20.48woopswould the fact that laptop runs KDE 4.2.4 while desktop runs 4.3.1 be a problem ?
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10:21.29Vamp898both are old :/ xD but i dont think
10:21.36Vamp898depends on what you´re going to do
10:22.26woopsok, I will try and see :)
10:23.09|moe|i did not have a problem with accessing kmail with either 4.3.1 or 4.3.4, but i don't know if there are databasechanges like in amarok in major-version-steps like 4.2 --> 4.3.x
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10:23.47factorhow do I restart plasma .
10:23.56factorit was like kappquit or something
10:23.59woopswell I know that 3.5 -> 4.2 were not a major issue when I copied the files
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10:26.56Bhuttoin Fedora 12
10:26.59Bhuttohelp
10:27.02Bhuttoplease...........
10:27.06annmadistro should do that, ask in #fedora
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10:29.14|moe|woops: in amarok you cannot roll back to the old version because your music-database is not downward compatible. so you should check if it is possible to reopen them on the other hardware
10:29.28|moe|the older kde-install
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10:31.21woops|moe|, I meant copying kmail files from 3.5 to 4.2 - I don't use amarok db's
10:32.03|moe|woops: ând i meant that it could be possible, that kmail uses some db which is also not downward compatible to 4.2 after opening the files with 4.3 - was an analogy
10:32.20woopsgot it :)
10:32.24|moe|great
10:32.26|moe|:D
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10:39.01|moe|is there a german kde-channel?
10:39.13annma#kde.de I think
10:39.40annmapretty empty, not sure this is the one
10:40.13|moe|annma: oh dots, am used to hyphons :D - more than in #kde-de - casa, emonkey and i am going to pull of kde.de :D
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11:13.33woopsumm, I used to have info about files in konqueror file managment when hovering the mouse, either as a popup bubble, or in the bottom line of the window - how do I enable this in konqueror 4.3.1 ? ( useful when filename is too long for icon display )
11:15.34woopsnvm, that setting just needed a konqueror restart to be effectiver
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11:27.21syn2finHow can I add custom keyboard shortcuts to kde4.2.4?
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11:29.39syn2finannma: keyboard and mouse?  When I tried that nothing seemed to work.
11:30.00syn2finannma: I set the options, but pressing the key didn't do anything.
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12:03.29Acedipthe subdirectories listed in the CMakelist of kdepim modules are not there int he kdepim modules
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12:04.09annmaAcedip: pardon?
12:04.23annmawhat kdepim module? trunk?
12:04.27Acedipyes
12:04.58Acedipi just did a svn co of kdepim.
12:05.06annmaso what's the exact problem
12:05.48annmawhat is missing exactly?
12:06.38Acedipwell i dont want the whole module, just want to build the akregator, so i looked for the "add_subdirectory" in the CMakeLists.txt file and the files listed there are not in the kdepim trunk
12:06.58annmayou cannot build only akregator
12:07.04Acedipah.
12:07.12annmaor you need to hack the CMakeLists.txt
12:07.19annmain Akregator
12:07.38annmawhat you need is a checkout of the whole kdepim, issue cmake here and then build only akregator
12:07.39Acediphmm
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12:09.46Acedipannma: well this would do the whole checkout for the kdepim module, right? " 1023  svn co -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdepim"
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12:09.58Acediperr.. "svn co -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdepim"
12:10.20annmanot -N
12:10.34Acedipokay.
12:10.38annmasvn co svn://
12:10.49annmathat's a whole checkout
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12:11.37Acedipone more thing. since i already have these applications running on my system, i just want to try and add/patch some things in akregator
12:12.09Acedipwhere should i build it so that i could experiment and see my chances once i build again
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12:12.15annmado you know if akregator willbuild against your kdelibs?
12:12.50Acedipi'm checking out from the same kde version trunk as the one i have on my system
12:12.59Acedipi.e. 4.3.3
12:13.08annmatrunk is not 4.3.3 at all
12:13.21annmayou'd better read some techabse.kde.org docs
12:13.28annmatechbase.kde.org
12:13.55Acedipyes, i was but then i couldn't make much sense out of the build doc there
12:13.55annmahttp://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started
12:13.56Acedip:)
12:14.15annmaread that page
12:14.18Acedipyes.i know, anyways, i shall get back, read and then do
12:15.02annmaso either you get kdelibs trunk or you get akregator branch
12:15.21annmaif you want your changes to get in, you'd better get trunk, branch is stopped
12:16.08annmaif you just want to play with it thebest is to get akregator branch
12:16.32Tm_Thi all
12:16.59annmahey Tm_T
12:17.17Acedipannma: and where is the kdelib trunk and akregator branch
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12:17.43annmasvn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdepim
12:17.54annmathis is trunk, look at the url
12:18.11annmasvn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.3/kdepim
12:18.15annmathis is branch
12:18.26Acediphmm
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12:19.37annmaI think Akregator trunk needs kdelibs trunk (usually that's what's happening)
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12:30.52Acedipannma: i have around 4gb of space on /, would that do if i want to start with building kde?
12:31.05annmayes
12:31.19annmafollow the tutorial on the techbase page
12:31.30Acedipohk.
12:31.31Acedipyes
12:31.35annmahttp://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
12:32.01annmaso you'll build as a new user and nothing will come in contact with your distro installation
12:32.11annmanever be root to install stuff
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12:32.28annmaand you'll have a safe parallel install
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12:33.03Acediphm.ohk.ty
12:33.11Acedipcarries on with the reading
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12:37.31rizvanhas anybody seen weboworld widgets - http://www.weboword.com/widgets
12:38.03rizvani wish it be ported to plasma widget
12:39.03annmais it a web service?
12:39.20rizvanBuild your Vocabulary Visually - http://www.weboword.com/
12:39.23annmadid not click on the link
12:39.34annmaI don't want to click, you can explain, no?
12:39.40rizvanok
12:39.45annmaso is it a web service?
12:39.50rizvanguess so
12:40.17annmaso what does the widget do?
12:40.18rizvanwill you click on imageshack?
12:40.39annmaimagebin
12:40.47rizvanok
12:40.48annmaimageshack is full of adverts
12:41.31annmayou could tell: the plasmoid displays this and that
12:41.46annmait  gets this from the website
12:41.53annmaand so on, not that difficult
12:43.00rizvanhttp://imagebin.org/75228
12:43.45annmaso are the images got from the website?
12:43.50rizvanyes
12:43.55rizvanprintscreen
12:43.57annmathis is not fully interesting in my opinion
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12:44.03annmano, in the applet
12:44.16annma<rizvan> i wish it be ported to plasma widget
12:44.23annmabut you don't even know what it is
12:44.30annmais it like the COmic applet
12:45.01rizvanthat's what
12:45.04annmahave a look at the Comic applet and see if you can add this provider if all it does is display a pic
12:45.07rizvanit loads a picture
12:45.10annmahave a look at KDE
12:45.19annmado you run plasma at all?
12:45.24rizvani'm a user
12:45.33annmaso use the Comic applet
12:45.38rizvanok
12:45.44rizvani'll request the comic applet dev
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12:47.09Jucatorizvan: I'm hoping you're not referring to the "widget" that http://www.weboword.com/widgets is referring to
12:47.41Acedipannma: the akregator version in branch is 1.0.1 and age says 4 years, what does that mean? since the present release is 1.5.3
12:47.47Jucatobecause it is not a widget at all. it's just a "badge" linking to the website
12:48.02annmaAcedip: I thought you build trunk
12:48.10annmaakregator as in kdepim
12:48.10Jucatohttp://www.weboword.com/widgets --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_badge
12:48.16Acedipannma: yes
12:48.48annmasvn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.3/kdepim
12:49.01annmathat one is 4 years old?
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12:50.25Acedipannma: no, this one svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/akregator
12:50.31Acedipis 4 yrs old
12:50.46JucatoAcedip: that's a different URL
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12:51.04annmaAcedip: I never mentioned this
12:51.38annmaAcedip: you said trunk and now you're messing with some stupid branch
12:51.54annmayou'll never achieve anything if you think you can build AKregator alone
12:52.11Acedipannma: i am not messing up with anything, i'm just going through the howto at techbase and viewing the websvn
12:52.19annmaas I said the easiest way to look what you can do is take the 4.3 branch kdepim
12:52.36Acedipohk, i think i'm getting what you are saying
12:52.37annmaAcedip: decide if you go with trunk and branch first
12:52.40JucatoAcedip: be careful with URL's
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12:52.45annmathen stick to it
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12:53.01JucatoAcedip: branches/akregator is not the same as branches/KDE/4.3/kdepim/akregator
12:53.11annmaI explained already that if you choose kdepim trunk you need kdelibs trunk
12:53.14AcedipJucato: yes, i know that now
12:53.49annmaif you want to try to see what you can do the easiest is to svn co kdepim from 4.3 and build Akregator from there
12:53.49Acedipannma: hmm..well packages in trunk will make it to the next release and the ones in the branches are the present ones,right?
12:54.04annmayour change will not make the next release anyway
12:54.08annmayour changes
12:54.21annmaso you can as well try with 4.3 to get familiar with this
12:54.37annmatrunk = next release is frozen for changes
12:54.53Acedipah.ohk
12:54.56JucatoAcedip: trunk/KDE is what will become 4.4 and branches/KDE/4.3/ is for the next KDE 4.3.x release if there will be one
12:55.11Acedipfair enough
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12:58.03annmayes
12:58.21annmaprefix cmake to install somewhere else and set $KDEDIRS accordingly
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13:04.46ArneBab_webchatHi
13:05.15ArneBab_webchatAm I in the right place to ask about developing with PyKDE4?
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13:06.38cousin_mariohello
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13:07.48ArneBab_webchatI wrote a command wheel (similar to the KDE3 Kommando) and I want to look into adding a default gesture to call it.
13:08.24ArneBab_webchat(sorry for using webchat. My KDE SC 4.4 currently compiles, and I'll have to wait a few hours till my KDE installation is usable again.
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13:09.29Jucatocousin_mario: only text size: Ctrl +/-
13:09.42cousin_marioJucato: oh
13:09.52cousin_marioJucato: any alternative for the whole window?
13:10.25cousin_marioI mean, to maintain terminal size
13:11.09Jucatodunno. sorry
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13:33.21zoraelWho may confirm bugs.kde.org bugs? I mean, if I run into a bug report and I experience the bug too, can I flag it as confirmed, or do I have to know what snippet of code is responsible for it?
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13:40.47Hamburger1984zorael: you can add a comment, stating the versions/distro you're using.. afaik you can also vote for a bug.. don't know how to edit the status of a bug though..
13:41.59zoraelHamburger1984: Right, makes sense, thanks
13:42.22annma_what bug?
13:42.37annma_the status must be edited by someone with power
13:43.05annma_zorael: what bug? I missed the chat as I got disconnected
13:43.19zoraelannma_: No bug in particular, just wondering how it worked
13:43.51annma_OK
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13:44.15echosystmdoes anyone know of a gnome/kde theme that is identical in both?
13:44.18annma_lots of bugs go to devels mailing lists so if you add a comment it makes the bug more alive
13:44.24echosystmor at least pretty similar?
13:45.06annma_zorael: I am assigned some bugs but I also look at some I get with mailing lists which I think I can fix
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13:45.47zoraelannma_: oh, okay. So it's better to comment and vote than to just vote
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13:46.20annma_yes
13:46.33pinotreeif you have more information to add, yes
13:46.40Hamburger1984zorael: but don't do just "me too" comments (at least not much more than one) .. provide some info..
13:46.50annma_if you can confirm on newer version for ex
13:46.50echosystmanyone?
13:46.53pinotreeotherwise comments like "yes, me too, please fix!" are unuseful
13:47.03pinotreeechosystm: be patient on irc, please
13:47.13echosystmok
13:47.25annma_also if you find it important for you and why zorael
13:47.42zoraelannma_, pinotree, Hamburger1984: Right, thanks
13:47.48annma_:)
13:48.23Hamburger1984echosystm: take a look at kde-look.org & gnome-look.org based on the screenshots/names you might be able to find matching themes..
13:48.24pinotreeand also, if what you want to add, whatever it is, whether it has been written already in some comment
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14:03.54annmalet's see zorael bug report
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14:04.45annmazorael: you explain why Notes is not good
14:04.54annmabut you do not explain why you need such a label
14:05.00annmawhat for
14:05.24annma"
14:05.25annmaplacing static text on the
14:05.27annmadesktop
14:05.34zoraelannma: Consider having a bunch of workstations at an office
14:05.38annmawhat is that for? give an example
14:05.49zoraelOn the first, you place a label saying "Workspace 1", on the second "Workspace 2", etc
14:06.05annmawhy?
14:06.09zoraelCurrently, you do this with a Notes widget, and then someone goes and changes "Workspace 1" to "loolllss"
14:06.31zoraelTo make it obvious which machine it is? Or just place "KDE 4" to advertise for the software compilation
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14:07.18annmabut people do not configure their own machines?
14:07.44zoraelIn the case it's a webcafé, no
14:07.52annmawould you want a sort of admin applet to put labels on the network machine?
14:07.57annmaah
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14:08.06annmaso first you are considering a special case
14:08.38zoraelNotes is for keeping notes; you add to it, go and change it, remove stuff from it, etc. It's volatile, like post-its
14:09.01zoraelLabels are for labeling; you add it once, don't change it. You can't have static Notes, their text can't be locked, they always show the formatting icons
14:09.09annmahow doesn't it change?
14:09.40annmacan't you make a note mutable?
14:09.42zoraelI'm not sure I understand what you mean. If translate it to real-life terms - you print a label, isn't it unchangeable?
14:09.59zoraelI can't make notes unmutable, if that's what you ask.
14:10.08annmadid you try?
14:10.17annmawith the kiosk features?
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14:10.45zoraelNo, now we're in an area I didn't know existed.
14:10.46annmain any case your bug report as it is will likely go over people
14:11.11annmaso you're administrating kde machines in a cyber cafe without kiosk features
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14:11.29zoraelNo, I'm not. I was merely trying to make up usecases when you asked
14:11.49zoraelin my case, I just want a label saying which activity is which, without the fear of accidently having it be changed by mistake or by passerbys
14:11.57annmaah
14:12.04zoraelAnd without the formatting icons, without the outline of the note
14:12.15annmawhen the notes is locked it can be changed?
14:12.19zoraelyes
14:12.28annmaisn't that the bug report then?
14:13.05zoraelthat's still a feature request; in my defense, I did suggest an alternative to change the notes plugin to cover for locking text, making it completely transparent (not translucent)
14:14.05annmayou can edit the wall paper and add your text it'll be easier
14:14.19annmafor what you ask
14:14.20zoraelYep, currently it would.
14:15.42zoraelI don't really have a problem, I just have a feature request.
14:15.43annmaIn resume, you want a transparent label which when locked the text cannot be changed.
14:15.59annmaI know but features are for some use case
14:16.15annmawe cannot add features for every people thinking "oh this wouldbe nice"
14:16.27annmaIn resume, you want a transparent label which when locked the text cannot be changed.
14:16.35annmais that right? ^^
14:16.49zoraelMore or less, yes. Also when locked, the formatting icons wouldn't be of use.
14:16.55annmato "label" your desktop
14:17.04annmawithout any formatting icons
14:17.17annmajust a text on transparent background
14:17.22zoraelBasically.
14:17.30annmause case: labelling your desktops
14:17.39annmawhat more?
14:17.56annmaI am trying to see what to add in the report
14:18.24zoraelQuoth the bug report, "static label on the desktop (like "Activity 1", "Workstation 5", "KDE 4" for screenshots and screencasts, ...) "
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14:20.08annmaIn resume, you want a transparent label which when locked the text cannot be changed. No icons on it.
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14:20.09zorael"features are for some use case"; I thought those examples had already pointed out a few, but perhaps my wording was vague.
14:20.09annmaUse: labelling your desktops and/or activities
14:20.30annmaare the above 2 lines resuming it?
14:20.40zoraelYes.
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14:22.01zoraelYou prefer the reports to be less descriptive, then? I mean, that's what the report says, even though I understand from you that the alternative I suggested seems to be preferable.
14:22.31warnechey, I'd like to ask you guys about a wish which was:
14:22.46warnec1) already filed on bugs.kde a long time ago (January 2008)
14:22.56warnec2) really anticipated (see the votes)
14:23.03warnechttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155150
14:23.27warnecI am asking because I believe it's a good time to think about new big features for KDE 4.5 now
14:23.46warnecand the current implementation is badly thought-out, to my taste
14:24.04warnecI know there are plasma activities which make different wallpapers possible
14:24.37warnecbut the odd thing is that activities are superior to viewports (one can set different wallpapers, plasmoids etc.)
14:25.28warnecthey arew much harder accesible
14:25.42warnecviewports can be used with Cube, Sphere etc.
14:25.44annmaamend the bug report by explaining what is now needed regarding to KDE 4.4
14:26.01annmathe lastest comment is prior beta 1
14:26.03mokolokoVirtual desktops shuold be renamed "Plasma Activity Spaces" :P
14:26.19annmayep, Plasma for all Linux
14:26.20warnecI'd simply replace the viewports with plasma activities
14:26.41annmawarnec: what YOU would simply do is irrelevant
14:26.48annmabecause you won't do anything
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14:27.04annmaso what you CAN do is amend thebug report PRECISELY
14:27.46warnecwell, I solely believe that communicating with the KDE staff is much more easier via IRC than bugs.kde
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14:27.56annmalol
14:28.00annmaI am the KDE staff
14:28.12warnecfor now, it's just an idea
14:28.16warnecI want to know :
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14:28.19annmaI see that
14:28.26warnec1) If there COULD be any plans on changing that for 4.5
14:28.34annmaon changing what
14:28.43annmaas I said, first look at 4.4
14:28.57warnecAFAIK, nothing has changed
14:29.41annmaas teh staff I order you to do so
14:29.52warnecrofl
14:29.54warnecok then
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14:30.42warnecI'm just afraid somebody would answer me 2 months later saying" "it's not a bad idea, but we're in feature freeze for 4.5 now, so we'll consider that for 2011"
14:31.06warnecwell, feature freeze would happen much later so a bad example
14:31.08thiago_homewarnec: unless you do the code, that's a distinct possibility
14:31.11annmawe only considere good design, not vague stuff
14:31.18annmafor a start
14:31.18thiago_homeit may also never happen
14:32.05warnecthe thing is that talking with You guys on IRC could make you think about it and feel it would be good to change it
14:32.21warnecand I feel that leaving one comment on bugs.kde would change ANYTHING
14:33.07annmayou're wrong but that's your choice
14:33.07puslingwarnec: you have enough time to learn to program and implement it before the 4.5 soft freeze
14:33.25annmaonly lousy staffis on IRC a Saturday afternoon
14:33.30annmaor sick one
14:33.32warnecwell, don't consider me a only-giver type of person
14:33.40warnecI am translator to Polish :P
14:34.21warnecjust out of curiosity - how do you decide what are your goals for 4.5?
14:34.40warnecis there some kind of council (:P) with voting etc.?
14:34.50puslingpeople say "I would like to do this" and they write it on a list and do it.
14:35.10annmathere is no staff and no council
14:35.13warnecOften I saw aseigo announcing new KDE releases or new KDE plans
14:35.23warnecis he some king of "chief" ?
14:35.26annmalol
14:35.29warnec:D
14:35.30annmano
14:35.35puslinghe is just announcing *his* plans or his friends plans.
14:35.36annmahe speaks for a team
14:35.47annmawe meet we decide he speaks
14:36.07warnecso, next KDE is simply a sum of efforts of all its developers?
14:36.16annmanext and previous
14:36.17warnecit's not like you have some kind of goal?
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14:36.25annmait's always been that
14:36.28warnecand you adapt to what the team want to achieve?
14:36.38annmawe adapt to what people do
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14:36.49annmasometimes we plan something and the person disappears
14:36.54warnecI (think) I get it
14:37.00warneclike KAuth ;)
14:37.02thiago_homesometimes we don't plan and someone appears
14:37.04thiago_homeand does it
14:37.15annmaexactly and that's amazing
14:37.35thiago_homemost of the time we don't plan and nothing happens :-)
14:37.40annmalol
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14:37.58annmasometimes we wait for the Troll to provide the goodies
14:38.13annmaTrolls
14:38.53warnecok, so I guess the only thing I do is to leave a comment on bugs.kde?
14:39.00thiago_homeno
14:39.05thiago_homeyou can actually do the work :-)
14:39.08thiago_homeor convince someone to do it
14:39.12warnec(besides coding of course)
14:39.32warnecyeah, I would really like to do that but I really don't consider myself a coder
14:39.50warnecand definitely not for trying such a hard task
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14:55.59Acedipannma: cmake --prefix=$HOME/usr will install the app in my home/usr?
14:56.57pinotreecmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/usr, yes
14:57.33Acedipohk
14:58.04dorini want to open a *.doc file with wine (office 2003); the file manager is dolphin
14:58.12dorinhow do i do that?
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15:02.01dorinso far i did this : wine "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE" %f  ;;; but it just open an empty doc file,not my foo.doc fille
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15:03.54Acedippinotree: well so would that mean i'll have two instances of the same app, right?
15:04.38Acedippinotree:  well i got the whole kdepim branch, but want to install akregator only?
15:05.32pinotreerun cmake for the whole of the module, and then run make in the subdirectory of the stuff you want to compile
15:05.32Acedipah..
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15:07.35dfrankhello All! Please tell me, how do I set up key combination to change keyboard layout?
15:08.10dfrankthe only thing i can do now is left-click in tray
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15:09.05dorini use setxkbmao ro_RO (the R_ALT key switch)
15:13.42dfrankdorin: "setxkbmap" is a software i should install manually? or it is installed by default?
15:14.14dorinin slackware it is default
15:14.18dorinbut u have to rune x
15:14.25dorinrun X *
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15:19.14dfrankdorin: yep, it's installed, trying to figure in out. thank u
15:19.44Acedipwell i fired cmake in the kdepim branch and got these errors?
15:19.50Acediphttp://www.fpaste.org/QmWp/
15:20.13dorindfrank, what keylayout u want?
15:20.18dorinlocale -a
15:20.23Acedipand it found kdelibs as they are already there
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15:21.24dfrankdorin: ru_RU
15:21.36dfrankdorin: or ru_CU.cp1251
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15:24.57dorindfrank, maybe? : setxkbmap ru_RU
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15:26.19dfrankdorin: pity but doesn't work: "Error loading ney keyboard description"
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15:29.27Acedipany help?
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15:30.08dorindfrank, try setxkbmap ru
15:30.26annmaAcedip: did you install all the devel packages from your distro?
15:30.56annmayou miss LibKNotificationItem-1 and akonadi devel
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15:39.12dfrankdorin: yes, "setxkbmap ru" switching keymap to ru, and there's no idea how to switch back to en. The one thing i guessed is Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and startx again :)
15:39.26dorinw8
15:39.31dorinsetxkbmap ro
15:39.34dorinsetxkbmap en
15:39.37dorinsecond one
15:39.49dfrankdorin: "setxkbmap ru,us" does nothing (no hotkey)
15:40.27szaldorin: well of course, but how do you enter that if you don't get Latin letters? ;)
15:40.56dfrankszal: u right :)
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15:43.05Acedipannma: well i installed akonadi-devel, but after that cmake wants to get svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/experimental and here the cmake output  http://www.fpaste.org/B7ye/
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15:43.37Acedipah. i need to install it?
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15:45.52rofl_how can windows decorations be added in kde 4.3 ?
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15:48.30Acedipannma: hmm..after building in experimental, firing make should give me something.but it dint
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15:51.54Half-Leftrofl_: You mostly have to compile them but 4.4 will have the Arora engine, in which you can download new themes within KDE
15:52.13Half-Left(Does have)
15:54.05annmaare you building on trunk or branch Acedip
15:54.46aandersein kwrite any way to get syntax highlighting for a script within an xml cdata tag?
15:54.47Acedipannma: i'm building on branch.
15:55.11annmaso what's the trunk thing
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15:55.20Acedipwhat?
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15:55.28rofl_Half-Left: how can they be compiled ?
15:55.47rofl_not with gcc, i huess
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15:55.52Acedipannma: well cmake in kdepim gave me the message to get and install svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/experimental
15:55.52quarkuphi
15:55.57quarkupmy kopete has a strange issue
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15:56.15Half-Leftrofl_: Sometimes people package them for distro, or than that you have to compile them like apps
15:56.16Acedipso just got it and did the build, but couldn't run make and make install
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15:56.24quarkupi cannot add the Windows Live Messenger account (the MSN protocol)
15:56.37annmayou cannot build some trunk stuff on branch Acedip
15:56.42Half-Leftother*
15:56.44annmaget that in yout head
15:56.45quarkupit says "Cannot load the WLM Messenger protocol plugin."
15:56.50quarkupany1 helps me out ?
15:57.00Acedipannma: yes, i thought so, but it told me to get it.
15:57.13annmai told you to ask fedora about it
15:57.17annmadid you?
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15:57.33Half-Leftquarkup: Ask your distro channel, maybe you have misses a package or did you compile?
15:57.46Acedipannma: you told me to get all the devel packages, and i have them
15:58.01Acedipwait.getting the branch experimental
15:58.19annmayou don't have LibKNotificationItem-1
15:58.53Acedipannma: yes, and cmake pointed me here to get it svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/experimental
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16:01.26annmait was an error, a left over
16:01.34Acediphmm
16:02.13Acedipso i should get the "/branches/KDE/4.3/kdelibs/experimental/"
16:03.49Acedipty. 'make' in process :)
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16:03.54quarkuphmm
16:03.57quarkupany1 ?
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16:04.03quarkupkopete says 'Cannot load the WLM Messenger protocol plugin.'
16:04.16sverreHello! I have a problem with my laptop. When using vlc the screen brigthness oscillates from min to max and vica verca..:S
16:04.18sverre[16:50] <sverre> And this is while the net-adapter is plugged in..
16:05.12annmaI'll correct this incorrect message Acedip
16:06.31Acedipannma: well infact it seems i'm missing some more non-kde devels too, getting them now.
16:07.44quarkupnvmd, i got it corrected. the new libmsn package will not work properly with kopete
16:07.55dorindfrank, did u solve it?
16:08.32sverreIs there any overriding configuration file where i can say, never dim brightness while connected..
16:08.34sverre?
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16:09.32dfrankdorin: i've just found this options in KDE4 menu :)
16:09.55dfrankdorin: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout
16:10.22quarkupsverre: are u using kde4? ubuntu ?
16:10.28sverrekde 4
16:10.39sverreI wouldn't come here otherwise:P
16:10.44quarkupit seems to be a vlc prob imo
16:10.44quarkup:D
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16:10.52quarkuphave u check'd the vlc forum?
16:11.00sverreI've been thinking the same
16:11.08sverrewhere do i find that forum?
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16:12.49quarkuphttp://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=68419&p=227314&hilit=brightness#p227314
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16:12.59sverrewell thank you!
16:12.59quarkupforum.videolan.org
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16:12.59quarkupnp :)
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16:13.05quarkupit seems to be a simillar prob
16:13.11sverreLet's cross our fingers
16:13.15quarkupbut that is just for ubuntu users AFAIK
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16:13.23monty_hallTrying KDE 4 again, I remember there used to be a way to activate gnome settings, I think from system settings.  Where is it, I cannot seem to find it.  My firefox looks terrible until I manually launch gnome-settings daemon.
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16:14.06quarkupmonty_hall: i actually have opera and chromium-browser installed. they look fine in the qt4/kde4 environment
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16:14.30nailuj24monty_hall: what distro are you using?
16:14.34monty_hallferebsd
16:14.34quarkupalso you have arora, and the rekonq browser and some
16:14.37monty_hallfreebsd
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16:14.57XrX|Eweemonty_hall: system settings / gtk+ appearance
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16:15.13monty_hallyes, that's what I want.  I just forgot where it's located.
16:15.20nailuj24monty_hall: gtk-qt4-engine is the package you need i guess
16:15.37nailuj24monty_hall: ah ok, never mind :)
16:15.37monty_hallah a package.  I'll look for it.  Thanks.
16:15.37XrX|Eweesystem settings / appearance / gtk+ appearance
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16:16.26quarkupmonty_hall: in my distro (arch) i got two packages for setting the gtk apps themes on kde4/qt4 environment: they are 'lxappearance' and the 'gtk-qt-engine' packages
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16:17.22monty_hallFreebsd used to bundle gtk appearance w/ it.  I no longer have it in my appearance list.
16:17.24XrX|Eweebwuk opensuse :p
16:17.40monty_hallProbably in a separate package as nailuj24 suggested.
16:17.43quarkupyou should also install the qt-curve themes for that as they are done exactly for that
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16:18.35nailuj24yeah, i'm using qt-curve as well, looks pretty good
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16:20.57sverrequarkup: ut kaffeine actually has the same problem..
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16:21.15sverreI'm thinking it has something to do with "inactivity"
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16:26.16monty_hallgreat gtk-qt4 fixed it.  I guess freebsd no longer installs as default.
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16:30.32quarkupthe openSUSE integration for firefox on kde4 is pretty good
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16:31.16monty_hallhow do I disable launching applications from previous session on startup?
16:31.56quarkuphave you tried systemsettings > advanced > session manager
16:32.13monty_hallthanks..
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16:32.40urkudHi! What does 'measure transport' tool in kig do?
16:32.40quarkup:)
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16:34.39urkudSorry, I've already found.
16:34.49Acedipannma_: well out of the non-installed library dependencies cmake is giving me,i have most of them, but still its giving me those names, one of the most unlikely is the nepomuk, since i have all the kdelibs-devel , kdepimlibs-devel etc.
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16:34.53urkudBut messages in the status bar are not informative.
16:35.14annma_Acedip: do yo uhave soprano?
16:35.21annma_Acedip: do you have soprano?
16:35.40Acedipyes
16:36.47annma_type: which nepomukserver
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16:38.26Acedipannma_: well i dont know the version, since it comes with kdelibs
16:39.27Acedipbut if this helps locate nepomuk|grep server => /usr/bin/nepomukserver,  /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_nepomukserver.so,  /usr/share/autostart/nepomukserver.desktop,  /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/nepomukserverrc,  /usr/share/man/man8/nepomukserver.8.gz
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16:41.23annma_type: which nepomukserver
16:41.26annma_in konsole
16:41.31annma_what doe sthat give you?
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16:42.19monty_hallHow I get get the task bar to display only the applications that are in the current workspace?
16:42.33monty_hallsorry
16:42.37monty_hallclicking wrong option.
16:42.48monty_hallpanel settings instead of task bar... :)
16:43.11Acedipannma_: /usr/bin/nepomukserver
16:44.16annma_ok
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16:48.59Acedipannma: but why is building giving me errors and dependencies although i have this module already installed on my machine though from the repo
16:49.17annmawhat module
16:49.25annmaand what errors
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16:49.40annmadid yuo build the whole kdelibs from 4.3 branch?
16:49.49Acedipannma: the kdepim and the library dependency errors
16:50.22Acedipannma: no, just the experimental, that is what i was asked by make. do i build the whole one?
16:50.36annmaso what are the errorsnow
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16:51.29Acedipannma: http://www.fpaste.org/bKPi/
16:51.53Acedipand i have most of them already
16:52.02annmathese are not errors anyway
16:52.03Acedipsince they come with kdelibs
16:52.22Acedipzomg!fsck
16:52.34annmamaybe your distro did not provide them with kdelibs
16:52.35Acedipam i blind, it said, build in the end
16:52.50annmadistros cut stuff
16:53.00Acediprunning make now
16:53.45Acedipannma: for only installing akregator, i run make from its directory right?
16:53.58annmayes
16:54.12annmafrom the build akregator dir
16:55.26Acedipannew: which is the one in the kdepim since i build kdepim from the kdepim dir itself, right?
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16:56.45annmayou do not set a build dir?
16:56.55annmathat's not very smart
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16:57.37Acedipthis is not a build directory is it? "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/usr"
16:57.55Acedipno its not
16:58.06annmausually you would create a build/ dir somewhere and build there
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16:58.42Acedipannma: yes, but it somehow skipped me this time, wouldn't happen.
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16:59.54Acedipannma: and how do you add that in the cmake command?
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17:01.31annmadepends where your build dir is
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17:07.19YippMNis there anything like a baking or cooking timer or clock type app for jde?
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17:08.15annmawhat should that do?
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17:09.46YippMNoh just wondering if there is, im doing some baking and would like to have a nice digital timer
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17:12.12mathzwhat is the name of the german kde channel?
17:12.14dfrankdear All! I've successfully installed yakuake (quake-style console), and added it into KDE autostart. All works, but at system startup, when yakuake starts, it leaves a black terminal window. How do I make it start without this terminal window?
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17:15.30ryrychhello, I've got the following error while compilling kdepim: http://pastie.org/740454 what do I need to compile prior to it?
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17:16.39thiago_homekdesupport, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase
17:16.40annmaryrych: what kdepim version?
17:16.56ryrychannma: from svn
17:17.07annmadoes not mean anything
17:17.45ryrychannma do you mean revision number?
17:18.39annmaI mean what svn url, which means what KDE version
17:18.53annmasvn info will tell you in src dir
17:19.35ryrychannma: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde
17:20.04ryrychannma ah sorry
17:20.33ryrychsvn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdepim
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17:24.00annmatrunk so you need as thiago said kdelibs trunk and all
17:24.54annmalibical as well
17:25.27pinotreelibical's requirement should be the same as 4.3
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17:27.59max_Hi, does anyone know how to fix the a issue with amarok 9.04 that it wont properly scan for a music collection?
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17:47.02Acedipannma: i couldn't install akregator to $HOME/usr/bin,  which akregator only gives one instance of akregator and that too in /usr/bin/akregator
17:47.56annmawhy couldn't you?
17:48.07Acedipthough files got installed in home/usr/share and local etc
17:48.43Acedipwait.a sec
17:50.51Acedipannma: well ah, seems like which only gives me the one in /usr/. anyways i have it in home/usr/ and ran it from there. but the config is same, it should be same right?
17:51.12annmaI told you to set $KDEDIRS
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17:53.28Acedipannma: no you dint tell me actually, but its mentioned in the techbase doc for doing it with a diff user account, but i did with the same account, anyways, what would setting $KDEDIRS do?
17:55.00annma[14:58] <annma> prefix cmake to install somewhere else and set $KDEDIRS accordingly
17:55.04annmaI did actually
17:55.21Acedipoh. ;)
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17:57.44annmatry to run it from the full path
17:58.12annma$home/usr/bin/akregator or whatever it is
17:59.53Acedipyes, i ran it and its running with the same configuration.
18:00.16Acedipi mean the already stored feeds are shown here.
18:00.30Acedipis that why i should have done from a different user account?
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18:00.49Acedipbut doing it from a different really make the difference
18:00.55Acedip*user
18:01.39annmaso it's running
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18:01.46Acedipyes
18:01.48annmaof course it's taking the same config
18:01.51annmathink
18:01.59Acediphmm..ohk
18:02.06annmait's the SAME user
18:02.12annmahence the same config
18:02.17Acedipyes, ohk
18:02.35annmabut "bravo"
18:02.44Acedip:)
18:02.46annmayou managed to build it and run it!!!
18:02.54Acedipthankyou to you.
18:02.55annma:)
18:03.09annmaI was a beginner once
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18:03.23Acedip:)
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18:03.41Acedipbut now i have to do it from the different user.
18:03.50Acedipgoes to do that
18:04.05annma:)
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18:06.33watermindguys 4.3.4 or 4.4 Beta 1?
18:06.42ChemBro4.3.4
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18:07.18watermindChemBro: care to expand on that or not :P
18:07.35ChemBro4.3.4 is stable, 4.4 Beta 1 is not
18:07.45ChemBroit's that easy! :-)
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18:08.04watermindnah... I moved to 4.3 with Beta 2 and prefered it to 4.2.x
18:08.17watermindit felt very stable by then
18:08.26icwienerSo what's the question then?
18:08.27ChemBro4.4 Beta 1 is not stable
18:08.57watermindicwiener: the question is, for those who tried 4.4 beta 1, how stable does it feel
18:09.09ChemBronot stable enough
18:09.10icwienerdidn't try it.
18:09.15tuxickfeh, konq stopped responding again
18:09.17annmait's as stable as a beta1 can be
18:09.31annmawhich means less stable than 4.3.4
18:09.38annmalots less stable
18:09.43Half-LeftIS a beta supposed to be stable? LOL
18:09.57annmathis guy thinks so ;)
18:09.58watermindannma: well 4.0 beta 1, 4.1 beta 1, and 4.2 beta 1 varied a _lot_ in terms of actual stability
18:10.13Half-LeftI exact a beta to crash and burn at some point
18:10.15annmawatermind: I don't really know actually
18:10.18Half-Leftexpect*
18:10.23watermindannma: well I tried them...
18:10.26ryrychannma: I have installed parts thiago mentioned and both libical0 and libical-dev
18:10.28annmame too watermind
18:10.34annmawatermind: I develop them
18:10.34watermindannma: 4.3 just tried beta 2 though
18:10.35xevious4.4b1 is relatively stable.
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18:10.47annmawatermind: I am always on the latest one
18:10.50xeviousthere are some weird graphical bugs that I've noticed...
18:10.53watermindannma: right!
18:11.04xeviousI'm using it as my laptop's DE.
18:11.09annmaxevious: in 4.4 beta 1?
18:11.18tzafrir_laptopI have a photo collection of digikam on one KDE4 system. How can I copy it (with its metadata) to a different system?
18:11.49xeviousannma: Yes. The notification area's X buttons (to close individual messages and the whole window) are gone
18:11.58tzafrir_laptopmerely copying the directory fails: the sqlite db now has a volume label of the collection inside
18:12.15annmaxevious: really?
18:12.24xeviousannma: Also, the popup notifications really don't work well with a vertical taskbar.
18:12.31tzafrir_laptopNo import functionality I could find
18:12.34annmaxevious: the X is there
18:12.50annmavertical panel bugs should be reported to bugs.kde.org
18:12.50xeviousannma: Yes. I'm booted into MacOS right now, but I'll imagebin a screenshot for you after a quick reboot.
18:13.07annmaIRC is NOT a place to report bugs
18:13.22annmanoneed for a screenshot
18:13.30xeviousOk.
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18:17.01Half-Leftannma: Yeah, I'm sick of these beta's not being stable. :p
18:17.34pinotree(hey, we are not google)
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18:19.50Half-Lefthas had good stability with 4.4beta
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18:23.59ryrychannma: so do you have another hints? :)
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18:28.12tzafrir_laptopediting the DB does not work. digikam insists on not finding it. And then again, why would it look for a specific (volume-id,path) combo instead of simply looking at $HOME/Pictures?
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18:29.15Half-Lefttzafrir_laptop: Are you getting the can't find volume error?
18:31.14tzafrir_laptopHalf-Left, yes
18:31.22Half-LeftWhat version?
18:31.44Half-LeftBecause it's been fixed in the RC
18:32.21tzafrir_laptopKDE 4.3 from Debian Unstable. digikam 2:1.0.0~beta4-2
18:32.56Half-LeftI had that issue with the beta and it's fixed in the RC
18:33.10tzafrir_laptopI don't have time right now. I guess I'll just kill the db files and re-import
18:33.46Half-LeftRe-imported won't fix it, I think it's a bug in the beta
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18:36.50Alt_of_CtrlAlguem conhece um serviço de put@s ao domicilio?
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18:38.45pinotreeAlt_of_Ctrl: ?!
18:39.07Alt_of_Ctrllol
18:39.13Alt_of_Ctrlsorry
18:39.19Alt_of_Ctrlit was /ame
18:39.28pinotreeno, it was /lame ;)
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18:54.19luna6hey i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 from ubuntu 9.4 dual screens worked correctly for me in KDE in 9.4, but after the upgrade it shows my two screes in clone mode only, i don't have this problem in gnome ....
18:54.29luna6could someone point me to a fix?
18:54.41thiago_homewhat video card?
18:54.45luna6nvidia
18:54.57thiago_homeuse nvidia-settings and change the setting
18:55.02luna6the dahh
18:55.04luna6ah
18:55.08thiago_homethe nvidia docs also explain how to make it permanent in xorg.conf
18:55.10luna6ok i used the default kde screen app
18:55.19tzafrir_laptopoh great. It fails to identify UTF-8 tags from images :-(
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18:55.26luna6will give that a shot - thanks
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19:05.47luna6is the a way to span 1 wallpaper onto the two seperate screens ?
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19:17.46Acediphmm..back from the new user account and the build working finr
19:17.49Acedip*fine
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19:26.36uspenokhowto learn what's revision of kde i have now installed ?
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19:27.18crautchersystem informatin , there ull see
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19:28.14uspenokcrautcher: u mean kinfocenter or what?
19:28.36uspenokcan't find this information there (
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19:30.01sreichjust go to any application, help->about kde
19:30.41uspenoksreich: 4.3.82 (KDE 4.3.82 (KDE 4.4 >= 20091211)) -so that's what i have there (
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19:31.13uspenokhow to know revision number ?
19:31.14sreichso..?
19:31.25sreichwhy does it matter?
19:31.34sreichrevision numbers and dates are easily comparable
19:32.32uspenoksreich: uf, whant to write script that will parse for me notes of diffs between my revision and current
19:33.00uspenokso i need to know revision number
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19:33.49sreicharen't you checking out from source anyways?
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19:35.46uspenoksreich: can you rephrase ur last message, can't understand :(
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19:39.09sreichuspenok: are you building from source?
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19:39.42uspenoksreich: yes, by live ebuilds from gentoo
19:39.50uspenokit's svn version
19:40.07sreichwell then you have the svn revision anyways, right?
19:40.38uspenokyes
19:41.01sreichso what's the issue?
19:41.19sreichyou have an svn checkout, therefore you have your currently-built revision
19:41.20uspenokwhant to parse revision number
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19:42.41sreichso use 'svn info' on a src dir and "parse revision number"
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20:07.28dennis_pWhere does konsole store its typed commands history?
20:07.43MinceRafaik it doesn't, the shell does
20:07.58MinceRfor example, bash uses ~/.bash_history
20:08.52Acedipwell the newly built akregator runs fine but cant run from a different user account even with stating the --config file. it does not take that file and runs from the present user.
20:10.09annmawhy do you need a new config Acedip
20:10.31annmabackup the existing one and you're done if you needone
20:10.35annmabackup the existing one and you're done if you need one
20:12.31sreichdennis_p: it doesn't, the shell handles it. Just type in 'history'
20:13.50Acedipannma: well it'll be good if i could use the new-user config, since i dont want to mess around with the feeds in the default user
20:14.15annmaso why hasn't the new user its own config?
20:14.41annmawhy would another user take the same config than the first?
20:14.52dennis_pthanks MinceR and sreich, found it. (and removed my su password from the file, yes even when sleepy; su first, password second:-)
20:15.00annmawhere did you install akregator for the new user?
20:15.09Acedipannma: it has, but its not using/running from that config file
20:15.17Acedipnew user is kde-4
20:15.25Acedipand the default is "ani"
20:15.28annmaand where is akregator for this?
20:15.40annmawhere is akregator for kde-4
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20:15.50Acedipand i'm kde-4/usr/bin
20:15.56Acediperr..
20:16.00Acedipin kde-4/usr/bin
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20:16.29annmayou're sure? as kde-4?
20:16.44annmaso it should have default config
20:16.53annmaif not then you are not using this
20:16.53Acedipyes, it has one,
20:16.59Acediplook.
20:17.30Acedipi'm firing this from home/kde-4  "/usr/bin/akregator --config .kde/share/config/akregatorrc"
20:17.43annmakde-4 user should have no settings so if you have feeds other than default in akregator then you are not using kde-4 akregator
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20:17.55annmawhy do you specify the config
20:18.06Acedipbecause i'm in "ani" atm
20:18.13annmagod
20:18.19annmayou should be kde-4
20:18.32annmaif you're ani it takes ani config
20:18.54annmaand /usr/bin/akregator is not your built one
20:19.07Acedipthen what "--config" for, it should look for the file i specify it there
20:19.11Acedipi know
20:19.40annmawhat is this /home/ani/.kde/share/config/akregatorrc file?
20:20.04Acedipconfig file
20:20.05annmawhere did you get it from?
20:20.34Acedipnowhere, its right there
20:20.38annma(I know it's a config file, remember I am a developer)
20:20.45Acedip:D
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20:21.57Acedipanyways, i had only intended to run the built akregator from ani itself, instead of logging out and use kde-4 all the time
20:22.27annmaso what is teh problem with ani
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20:23.12annmaif you run ani akregator with ani config then it'll have ani feeds
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20:23.36annmaif you run kde-4 akregator on new user kde-4 it should be defaults
20:23.46annmait's pretty easy
20:24.06Acedipyes, it is, you are not getting what i am saying
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20:24.38Acedipokay!
20:25.06Acedipannma: what should "akregator --config <filename>" do when fired from terminal?
20:25.36dennis_pwhen you change the dhcp network settings in systemsettings which file changes in linux? (My file is corrupt but systemsettings does not tell me where the corrupt file is)
20:25.57annmause a the filename file
20:26.00annmaas config
20:26.04thiago_homesystemsettings doesn't have a DHCP module
20:26.16annmabut WHAT is this filename config file Acedip
20:26.43Acedipannma: $HOME/.kde/share/config/akregatorrc
20:26.54annma<PROTECTED>
20:26.57annmabe clear
20:27.12annmawhat does it do and what do you expect it to do
20:27.53Acedipannma: can we take this in PM, this is too much confusion on such a stupid thing :D
20:28.03annmano it's not
20:28.06annmajust be clear
20:28.10Acedipoaky.
20:28.14Acediplisten.
20:28.16annmayou run this command, what's happening
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20:28.25Acedipi'm telling you.
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20:28.52annmayou run this command, what's happening?
20:28.56Acedipi'm running this as user "ani"
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20:29.01dennis_pthiago_home: what? You mean KDE 4 dropped network settings?
20:29.22thiago_homedennis_p: no
20:29.25thiago_homedennis_p: I'm saying it never had it
20:29.46dennis_pthiago_home: I thought you could set it to a static or a dhcp
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20:29.58thiago_homenot in KDE
20:30.01thiago_homethere's no option for it
20:30.09Acedipannma: /home/kde-4/usr/bin/akregator --config /home/kde-4/.kde/share/config/akregatorrc
20:30.18Acedipannma: and its showing me ani feeds
20:30.21dennis_poh, did debian add it?
20:30.38thiago_homeI don't know. I've never used Debian.
20:30.50Acedipannma: i.e. its using the ani config file because the feeds are the ani ones
20:31.00annmayou're runing this as ani
20:31.05Acedipyes
20:31.09annmaor kde-4?
20:31.13Acedipani
20:31.21annmadoes ani have rights to run kde-4 things
20:31.35icwienerdennis_p: What option? (came in too late)
20:31.38annmaand does ani have rights to take kde-4 config
20:31.40Acedipannma: yes, i had changed the modes
20:31.48annmaI think you changed bad
20:32.04annmajust run as ani with an empty config file in ani's config dir
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20:32.36Acedipannma: what?
20:32.49Acedipits working fine in the ani
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20:33.54dennis_picwiener: when changing dhcp from dhcp to a static ip adress where is file that changes? (mine is corrupt)
20:34.26icwienerdennis_p: Where is that option where you can set that?
20:34.31dennis_pits a debian thing I guess.
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20:34.52dennis_pnetwork settings in systemsettings
20:35.34dennis_pit was actually in kde 3.5 that it got corrupt
20:35.49icwienerHmm, I do not have that option on Debian here.
20:36.33dennis_pI have been typing su and dhclient after boot up ever since
20:37.08icwienerdennis_p: If in doupt, ask in #debian or #debian-kde on irc.debian.org
20:37.29dennis_pyes, i guess its a debian question now :-)
20:37.30icwienerdennis_p: /etc/network/interfaces does that for me.
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20:38.47Acedipannma, well now i had to logout and login kde-4 to get the akregator config
20:39.00Acedipannma, but i wanted to do this from ani aswel
20:39.07Acedip*aswell
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23:02.38trmanconeed some help
23:02.58thiago_homehopefully not psychiatric help
23:03.02thiago_homewe're not qualified for that
23:03.03nailuj24trmanco: feel free to ask
23:03.11trmancoI need to know where I can revert plasma-desktop from "folder view" to "desktop view"
23:03.21trmancoI was writing, sorry :-P
23:03.31trmancoplasma keeps crashing on me
23:03.39trmancoI can't revert it from the gui
23:03.45trmancoit won't give me enough time :|
23:04.59trmancotries to wait calmly
23:05.27trmancoI'm sure there is a config file some where, but I don't know where :|
23:06.14thiago_home~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop*rc
23:06.14thiago_homebut those files aren't really editable by hand
23:06.26trmancowhat option
23:06.31trmancoI've already looked
23:06.33thiago_homeno clue
23:06.37trmanco:|
23:06.43thiago_homemore than likely, it's not a single option
23:06.50thiago_homeplasma's config is not hand-editable
23:07.16trmanco:|
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23:07.34trmancoany smart way of reverting this?
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23:10.18nailuj24trmanco: you could try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*
23:10.27nailuj24trmanco: this *may* reset all settings
23:10.32trmancook
23:10.34trmancoI'll try
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23:11.09trmancopff
23:11.18trmanconailuj24: it worked
23:11.19trmancoLOL
23:11.24trmancothanks :D
23:11.32trmancothank you very much
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23:12.47nailuj24trmanco: no problem :)
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23:33.14smorgAnyone happen to be familiar with kig's (the math geometry program) python interface and know how to create multiple objects? I can't figure out how to return multiple instances of anything from the function without doing something bizarre like making it recursive - which so far hasn't worked.
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23:59.40_Groo_i'm using radeon dri2/kms (im using for a long time now), since i upgraded to lucid with kde 4.4 beta 1 i cant activate compositing anymore. it works with compiz but not kwin.
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