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00:10.34 | cjae | Hi, I love the new kde and was wondering how konqueror is dong now since using firefox in kde seems like a waste, but I am so reliant on the firefox addons, I am just wondering if anyone can give me some info (other kde borswer, possible firefox addon intergration in konq, etc...) |
00:12.52 | dashcloud | there's several other early stage qt/and or kde based browsers- arora and rekonq are 2 I can think of |
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00:26.44 | cjae | dashcloud: thanks |
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00:40.29 | dansushi | i'm using knetworkmanager to be able to connect to wireless networks, but I would like to be able to make it so that when I connect my computer to a wired network, I have a static IP. I've tried changing it in KDE Control Center, but no matter what I do, it goes back to DHCP. Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening? |
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00:45.19 | sabinef72 | hello there |
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00:46.21 | sabinef72 | i just upgraded my debian from kde3.5 to kde4.3.2 |
00:46.32 | sabinef72 | and i can't find how to configure wireless network |
00:46.40 | sabinef72 | (i just ran wpa_supplicant manually) |
00:46.53 | sabinef72 | i try knetworkmanager , but this display nothing |
00:47.12 | sabinef72 | what is the way to configure wireless network in kde4? |
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00:52.48 | oneforall | not sure whats doing it . But kde,xfce etc when I do startx the cpu fan starts to run so darn fast. When I leave x it instantaneously drops to quiet again . |
00:53.10 | oneforall | been that way for a while . but now its time to find out :) |
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01:21.12 | rogersman1 | hey all, every time I launch lancelot menu, all minimised windows are restored...can i change this "feature" ? thanx |
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02:02.56 | sreich | does anyone know if there is some kind of "cache" that I can clear that stores the plasmoids I have...there seem to be false-references for plasmoids... |
02:03.07 | sreich | e.g. I try to add a certain plasmoid, but it doesn't exist |
02:03.20 | sreich | or I removed google gadgets, but the plasmoid adder is still there |
02:03.32 | lmurray | aseigo, I provided a patch to glc to make it work in KWin. So it should work :P |
02:03.44 | sreich | oo cool |
02:03.48 | sreich | wonders what glc is like.. |
02:04.11 | sreich | it serves the same prpose as recordmydesktop, correct |
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02:04.29 | lmurray | Yeah, except it intercepts the OpenGL stream instead of the X framebuffer |
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02:05.06 | sreich | cool |
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02:47.17 | cleary | can anyone tell me how to add a plasma activity workspace in 4.3.2? |
02:47.35 | cleary | I remember doing it in ~4.1 days, but I just can't work it out now |
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02:52.47 | daum | hey guys this is weird, just recently when i go and hit alt+f2 it isn't bringing up the 'run' prompt, kde4 |
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02:54.08 | daum | what is that prompt call i wonder if it is running somewhere and weirdly minimized |
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02:57.32 | daum | all the other alt+XX keys are working |
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02:59.04 | daum | got it, krunner had gone down |
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03:00.27 | yao_ziyuan | kde's default desktop can look like: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=114823 |
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03:02.30 | Ender2070 | yao_ziyuan - ewww i hope not |
03:02.58 | erik-k | Hi, I'm having a problem with kde after 1. Installing libxcb 1.6, 2. killing the old .so because I thought stuff was up-to-date, then migrating back and upgrading again to recover it |
03:03.06 | Ender2070 | yao_ziyuan - riddled with gtk apps = bad, and the mac rip off theme is badly done |
03:03.16 | erik-k | I'm getting things like "klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_pop3'." |
03:03.32 | erik-k | Even though I've reinstalled everything I can find that relates to kioslaves |
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03:08.05 | yao_ziyuan | Ender2070: i don't mean kde should include gtk apps |
03:08.26 | yao_ziyuan | Ender2070: i do hope there can be original window buttons |
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03:29.29 | Ender2070 | yao_ziyuan - that theme is quite old, or at least its a remake of one quite old |
03:29.42 | Ender2070 | yao_ziyuan - i ran something like than on win2k with windowblinds |
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03:31.30 | yao_ziyuan | Ender2070: i know. |
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03:46.07 | pg1054 | Do KDE text apps -- for e.g. Kate -- support clickable file:/// links? Certainly, file:/// is recognized in file dialogs, URI fields, etc. But, afaict, Kate -- at least by default -- doesn't recognize file:///xxx as a URI. |
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04:02.52 | tsimpson | pg1054: kate is an text editor, not a "word processor" |
04:03.02 | tsimpson | it's just used for editing text files |
04:04.10 | pg1054 | tsimpson: and bbedit on OSX is "just used for editing text files", and it has clickable file:/// URIs. what's your point? |
04:04.20 | Dhraakellian | wonders if it'd be possible to have a 24-hour analog plasma clock |
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04:04.57 | Dhraakellian | ponders |
04:04.59 | tsimpson | pg1054: why would you want to click a link while *editing* a file? |
04:05.07 | tsimpson | when reading/displaying, sure, but not editing |
04:06.42 | pg1054 | tsimpson: to include reference to another file that i can conveniently open, even in a comment line. been doing it for years ... just asking if its possible heare, not debating whether it's a good idea. |
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04:07.36 | tsimpson | it's not a feature currently in kate, if you think it's a good idea you should file a wishlist bug at http://bugs.kde.org |
04:09.36 | pg1054 | That's all I needed to know. Thx. |
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04:16.39 | localnnuser__ | hello... my kde kscreensaver doesnt work |
04:16.45 | localnnuser__ | i mean automatically it doesnt start |
04:16.57 | localnnuser__ | ive checked on system settings and everything seems to be ok |
04:17.01 | localnnuser__ | i dont know what im missing |
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04:17.04 | localnnuser__ | any help? |
04:19.21 | localnnuser__ | please help me ouy!! |
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05:48.06 | solidus-river | hey, guys i'd like to report a bug. The xine backend for phonon does not use dmix |
05:48.13 | solidus-river | is this a known bug? |
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06:41.32 | aucahuasi | hi pinotree i found that okular doesn't work with poppler 0.12.1 ... that was why i could'n see my pdf docs |
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06:42.05 | aucahuasi | works fine with poppler-0.10.5 :) |
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06:54.53 | carmelita | Hello, can someone please tell me how to make kontact(kmail) to check my spelling? I have tried with no success, and all what I find in Google is too old. |
06:55.12 | carmelita | I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 and Kontact 2.2.0. |
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06:55.51 | carmelita | kmail 1.12.2 |
06:57.59 | Ender2070 | do you get the left click bug in firefox too |
06:58.02 | Ender2070 | ? |
06:59.25 | Ender2070 | carmelita - right click the text box of where you are typing and chose "automatic spell check" |
06:59.41 | Ender2070 | "auto spell check" actually |
06:59.42 | carmelita | Ender2070: I did that long time ago with no success |
07:00.03 | Ender2070 | working for me, i got kde 4.3 |
07:01.03 | carmelita | Ender2070: Me too, I got Kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 4.3.2, Kontact 2.2.0, kmail 1.12.2 |
07:01.36 | carmelita | Ender2070: I have my installation in spanish, maybe I have to install some extra packages for it to work |
07:01.54 | Ender2070 | carmelita - im using fedora 11 w/ kde 4.3.2 and kmail 1.12.2 english |
07:02.38 | carmelita | Ender2070: Could you please check for me which spell checkers do you have installed?= |
07:03.09 | Ender2070 | English (United States of America) |
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07:03.22 | Ender2070 | if you manually run spell check, does it show a language? |
07:03.31 | carmelita | Ender2070: mmmmm, I mean specifically, aspell, ...? |
07:03.38 | Ender2070 | no |
07:03.46 | Ender2070 | if you right click and chose spell check |
07:03.56 | Ender2070 | if you right click and chose "check spelling" |
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07:04.42 | Ender2070 | you might want to ask in #kubuntu too |
07:04.45 | Ender2070 | it might be a bug |
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07:09.30 | carmelita | Ender2070: Nothing happens, I'm already asking in Kubuntu, but nobody answers there |
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07:09.53 | carmelita | I right clicked and nothing, I wrote a lot of stuff wrong on purpose |
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07:20.38 | arkascha | I get a "no handler found for application/zip" and konqueror crashes when trying to download a zip package from a gallery cart module. Firefox behaves ok. Using kde-4.3.3@opensuse-11.1. Any ideas ?!? |
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07:20.56 | muep__ | unpack with unzip |
07:21.12 | arkascha | muep__: "konqueror crashes" |
07:21.39 | arkascha | I checked the file associations, all fine, I can open zip packages from the file system without any problem. |
07:21.41 | muep__ | maybe konqueror tries to open it with some app? |
07:21.55 | arkascha | muep__: that's why it says "no handle" ? |
07:21.56 | muep__ | I'd suspect you have a distro problem there |
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07:22.04 | arkascha | muep__: sure |
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07:23.01 | muep__ | does it happen with a fresh user account? |
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07:23.54 | arkascha | muep__: I want to find out what happens. I am not the "try as many things as you can think of and call yourself a guru then" type. |
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07:24.31 | muep__ | trying with a fresh user profile would help finding out if it's just borked settings |
07:24.50 | arkascha | muep__: no, it wont. but thanks for your attempt. |
07:25.14 | muep__ | I think it would |
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07:25.37 | muep__ | if you want more technical ways to debug it, #kde-devel might have better answers |
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07:33.51 | lubomir | hello |
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07:34.26 | lubomir | i am using kde 4.3.2 and the battery simbol is missing |
07:35.05 | lubomir | i always have to look at /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state to look up how much battery i have |
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07:35.21 | lubomir | with kde 4.2 everything was fine |
07:36.02 | beers | good morning |
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07:36.02 | arkascha | lubomir: it does exist, I use a plasmoid for it. Called "Battery Monitor". |
07:36.44 | lubomir | arkascha, how did you call it? |
07:37.07 | arkascha | lubomir: you add the plasmoid to your desktop. Use the kidney (top right corner) and "add widget". |
07:37.39 | arkascha | lubomir: you can drag the plasmoid wherever you want it to, you can resize it, put it to a panel, and, *tada*, you can even remove it again ! |
07:38.16 | lubomir | arkascha, okay. found it |
07:38.30 | arkascha | lubomir: have fun ! |
07:38.40 | lubomir | why is it not default on when notebook on battery? |
07:40.41 | lubomir | bye arkascha .thanks |
07:40.57 | arkascha | lubomir: because there are about 20 different battery monitory maybe ?!? |
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07:47.27 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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07:50.48 | beers | cout<<Hello world <<endl; |
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07:53.20 | Ender2070 | error |
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07:53.39 | Ender2070 | cout not defined |
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07:59.46 | Elvanor | I have installed a System Monitor widget. Each time I reboot and login, I get additional widgets corresponding to the individual panes of the system monitor that I activated. |
08:00.05 | Elvanor | Is this a known bug? (I have to close those extra widgets at every boot, making it painful) |
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08:09.49 | arkascha | where does kdevelop hold it's language highlighting definitions ? Got to add an own one... |
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08:13.53 | arkascha | ah: http://www.kate-editor.org/article/writing_a_kate_highlighting_xml_file |
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08:13.59 | Wizzir | hi! |
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08:14.17 | Wizzir | anybody interested in testing kde1 i near future? |
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08:18.05 | muep__ | KDE 1? |
08:18.31 | psteyn | Hi guys, my kmail inbox shows 1 new message but I can't seem to find it in my inbox |
08:18.43 | psteyn | is there a way to show only unread mail / search for unread mail? |
08:18.53 | psteyn | this is kde 4.3.2 |
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08:33.07 | Wizzir | muep__: yes, kde1 |
08:33.22 | Wizzir | i'm working on gcc4 port |
08:33.51 | Wizzir | i've already ported qt1 and kdeelibs |
08:33.58 | Wizzir | and few apps from kdebase |
08:34.01 | muep__ | just for fun? |
08:34.04 | bigbrovar | Hi guys am wondering if there is a way to integrate google calendar with kde PIM |
08:34.06 | Wizzir | yes |
08:34.28 | muep__ | sounds cool, I'd try it if I had enough spare time... |
08:34.37 | muep__ | :-) |
08:35.15 | Wizzir | when i finish with kdebase porting i'll try to run it |
08:35.32 | Wizzir | kfm works, and that's promising |
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08:37.58 | Wizzir | i'm not sure if somebody would wan't to use kde1 now :P |
08:38.24 | Wizzir | but it reminds me my first steps with linux |
08:39.05 | muep__ | I never used KDE 1, but tried KDE 2 for a few hours on Debian 3.0 |
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08:39.37 | Wizzir | nah, i remember beginnings of kde2 and people saying: no, i'm staying with kde1 :P |
08:39.53 | Wizzir | just like with kde3->kde4 last days |
08:39.54 | Wizzir | :P |
08:40.01 | Wizzir | last months* |
08:40.59 | muep__ | yeah, it's a common pattern |
08:41.04 | muep__ | also outside KDE |
08:42.33 | Wizzir | yup |
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08:44.18 | BlackShift | as I recall it was not easy to use 1 and 2 (or 3) at the same time since they all shared the same ~/.kde directory |
08:45.39 | Wizzir | yeah, and i think many config files where "shared" |
08:45.59 | BlackShift | which delayed my university from upgrading (it was kinda annoying when you realized that you logged into a machine that only had kde1, messing up your kde2 configuration..) |
08:46.18 | BlackShift | but apparently this has changed :) |
08:47.39 | Wizzir | nah, .kde is hardcoded somewhere, i think |
08:47.57 | Wizzir | i have to check it |
08:48.05 | Wizzir | thanks for pointing that out |
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08:48.20 | BlackShift | now there is a .kde4 I mean |
08:48.40 | Wizzir | i wonder if it is legal to release patched kde1 to the public |
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08:49.52 | muep__ | isn't .kde still the default config location for KDE 4? |
08:50.28 | Wizzir | i don't know |
08:50.35 | Wizzir | i use ubuntu/debian packages |
08:50.44 | muep__ | I thought the .kde4 alternative is mostly a distro-specific workaround |
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08:55.41 | xdan779 | muep__: the default kde home dir is set when configuring kdelibs |
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08:59.08 | Wizzir | xdan779: also in previous versions? |
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09:01.06 | xdan779 | Wizzir: yes, if you use distro built packages it will depends on how they configured and built them. The default dir is ~/.kde |
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09:01.27 | Wizzir | xdan779: i port kde1.. |
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09:03.41 | xdan779 | Wizzir: port kde1 to what |
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09:04.29 | thomasj | to win 3.11 |
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09:21.39 | oneforall | kde-devel |
09:22.07 | oneforall | damn this trying to change bgs is a task and a half :( |
09:23.42 | oneforall | why is it whe you zoom you end up with an extra 1 and there is just no way to change the order. number 1 desktop is 3 now and I end up with one that has 4 pieces of each bg on it and lost that top right peanut . the I look and it on thecorner of one of the pieces that should be desktop 3 |
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09:26.19 | Rhapsody | It's part of the new style of interface in KDE 4. It's like KDE 3, but it does less and takes more time. It's better... somehow. |
09:28.37 | ponto | How can I disable sound output in KDE4? In KDE3 I just disabled the sound server. |
09:28.42 | oneforall | not to me right now to just change destop bg . Its driving me nuts . now it put everything I had on the main desktop 1 to desktop 3 :( |
09:30.01 | oneforall | it still has that extra one when you zoom and now way to find out how to get the red xto delete them . there is always only 1 that does and no way of know how it got it and how to delete the ones you want etc |
09:30.09 | oneforall | driving me nuts here |
09:32.05 | oneforall | how do i get desktop 3 to be desktop 1 again . I really hope to hell I don't have to remove all that work just to manually all it all back to the new desktop 1 |
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09:33.43 | oneforall | damn this workspace 1 doesn't ewven have the top right peanut O.o |
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09:41.26 | oneforall | err what a fight to get this back . insane to even get it at all :( |
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09:42.42 | oneforall | that how hard it is wwith gnome to change the desktop(workspace) bgs |
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09:43.42 | oneforall | I know its to deal with comiz ,or guessing it is but its is really difficult to use for sure |
09:43.51 | oneforall | err compiz* |
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09:48.50 | oneforall | if that peanut on the top right is gone what else can you use to get the zoom ? I looked at the panel peanut and didn't see it in there |
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09:49.37 | Half-Left | 22 seconds from grub to desktop, nice! |
09:50.14 | oneforall | damn thats toom slow it shoudl only tak 1 |
09:50.16 | oneforall | :) |
09:50.26 | Half-Left | haha |
09:50.28 | oneforall | ok 1 and a half |
09:50.36 | Half-Left | Dream on :) |
09:50.48 | oneforall | yeah dreams are perfect :) |
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09:51.36 | Half-Left | KDE4 takes about 4 seconds to load up, fastest I've seen |
09:52.32 | oneforall | hp-systray in the new hplip is fixed for that adding -s |
09:53.01 | oneforall | but when it runs its still getting a segfault with libX11 . |
09:53.20 | oneforall | have 1.2.2 of that upgraded it and recompiled hp and still same |
09:53.44 | Half-Left | Yeah, I have that, pretty decent tool for printing setup |
09:53.53 | oneforall | some of the things I patched apps are loading in a flash ;) |
09:54.02 | oneforall | even ff with 64tabs :) |
09:54.31 | oneforall | other than the normal waiting for page connections |
09:55.28 | Half-Left | I like to use Chromium, it's much faster |
09:55.43 | oneforall | hmm that reminds me I need to close that hp-systray and call it from konsole . |
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09:57.25 | Half-Left | oneforall: To answer your question, yes you can only zoom out with the Plasma toolbox. |
09:57.52 | oneforall | that top right peanut |
09:57.59 | Half-Left | yep |
09:58.08 | Half-Left | If you see it like that |
09:58.12 | oneforall | when its gone then its a bit hard eh :) |
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09:59.19 | oneforall | yeah when I was zoomed outy and changing the bg one of the desktops it was gone |
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09:59.31 | oneforall | when I zoomed out |
09:59.40 | oneforall | all other 3 had it |
10:00.31 | oneforall | Then Thats desktop it was gone had all 4 bgs like you see in zoom mode and I finallt seen it was on the corner of the one for desktop 3 . It was all out of wack |
10:00.59 | oneforall | all of a sudden desktop 1 was 3 and it still kept desktop 3 bg O.o |
10:01.13 | bigbrovar | oneforall> I really dont use the zoom activiy thingie. imho its still not as easy and straight forward as it should be. |
10:01.40 | oneforall | it was so much nicer to just open the desktop setting and pick the bg. then in the drop down change to desktop 2 and so on :) |
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10:02.22 | bigbrovar | hi guys is it possible to integrate kde PIM with google calendar (I have been googling for this all morning it would be nice to know if its a fruitless search) |
10:02.26 | Half-Left | Just use the switcher widget then |
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10:03.19 | Half-Left | "Activity Bar" |
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10:04.56 | oneforall | whast the dashboard ? |
10:05.11 | QwertyM | bigbrovar: there's a way via GCALDaemon, as explained in this article: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/122054 |
10:05.35 | QwertyM | oneforall: a special view for all active desktop widgets? |
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10:05.54 | sidh | greetings gentlemen |
10:05.55 | bigbrovar | QwertyM> thanks |
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10:06.15 | QwertyM | bigbrovar: but do note that its not two-way sync'd yet, google does not support that I think :) |
10:06.26 | Half-Left | oneforall: It's a separate desktop layer just for widgets |
10:06.26 | oneforall | I just selected that widget and don't see what its really for :) |
10:06.54 | bigbrovar | QwertyM> fair enough then as long as it works (one way) |
10:07.09 | sidh | amarok has problem to play songs that have accentuated char in their name whereas xmms (for exemple ) play them well, is there something to configure in amarok to solve that ? |
10:07.31 | oneforall | hmm diplay your vaf picture. I think the wife would get mad |
10:07.35 | oneforall | :) |
10:07.41 | Half-Left | sidh: Ask in #amarok |
10:07.43 | oneforall | vaf/fav |
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10:09.16 | sidh | Half-Left: i have the same problem in Dolphin where the fies name with accent are badly displayed, but i can open them with apps though |
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10:11.55 | oneforall | hmm I see it dload something from flickr , but doesn't display it |
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10:15.10 | oneforall | hmm interesting will have to try out that pastebin.ca widget |
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10:16.31 | QwertyM | oneforall: I love that widget, and its best kept on the panel ;) Though right now imageshack seems to be failing.. |
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10:16.51 | oneforall | hmm yeah that sounds better than the desktop thanks |
10:17.32 | Half-Left | always keeps it in the panel too |
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10:22.22 | oneforall | any one else using a nvidia 980GTX+ ? |
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10:28.50 | oneforall | ah crap that kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/hp-systray ^[[31;01merror: option -s not recognized^[[0m is still there :( |
10:29.16 | oneforall | wish I knew what exactly was doing that and adding this -s |
10:29.23 | oneforall | other than its to do with hp-systray |
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10:29.44 | oneforall | but the hp-systray.descktop doesn't have -s |
10:29.50 | oneforall | desktop* |
10:30.21 | oneforall | I looked int he hp-systray and no -s in there either O.o |
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10:50.42 | rooster | Hi guys - at some point recently my tab key stopped letting apps use it - for example, in Konversation, when I hit tab when typing a nick, I don't get autocomplete, instead my focus moves to the next window element |
10:51.08 | rooster | any pointers where I can look for a setting or resource to find out what's going on? |
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10:58.19 | ddhanasekar | I am running Fedora 11 KDE . My Desktop switcher is vanished.How can I get it back .How can I switch the multiple Desktop. |
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11:00.21 | QwertyM | ddhanasekar: right click the panel, go to panel options -> add widgets -> choose the Pager widget and add it |
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11:01.36 | ddhanasekar | Thanks I got the Desktop panel.Is there any shortcut key for switch over the multiple Desktop |
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11:03.47 | Bou | ddhanasekar: system settings > keyboard > global shortcuts > Kwin component |
11:03.57 | Bou | ddhanasekar: you can set up the shortcuts there |
11:03.59 | JordanC | Hey there folks, has anyone here had any luck building in the PHP support for KDevelop? |
11:04.10 | Bou | not sure they are set up by default (and may depend on your distro) |
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11:04.35 | Bou | JordanC: try on #kde-devel you might find more devs there |
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11:07.23 | JordanC | Bou: Okay, thanks |
11:08.34 | ddhanasekar | ok thnaks |
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11:09.19 | ddhanasekar | how to set the shorcut key for Show Desktop panel |
11:09.49 | rooster | Hate to bump - but has anyone got any tips at all on my strange tabbing issue? |
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11:20.15 | Bou | rooster: weird, don't you have some global keyboard shortcut that would overlap? |
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11:23.36 | rooster | Bou, I just tried resetting all keyboard shortcuts to default - no luck |
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11:27.04 | Bou | :( i can't help much sorry |
11:28.40 | JordanC | Okay, I've got a guide to build this in |
11:28.42 | rooster | Bou: No probs |
11:28.51 | JordanC | But the author suggests using "cs" to compile |
11:28.54 | JordanC | cs is "csound" |
11:29.02 | geo27 | Hello ! Does anyone know if it is possible to configure kmail so that a filter on a mail would not only move a mail in appropriate folder, but also interract with a job (create or modify one) ? |
11:29.02 | JordanC | Has this been replaced? |
11:29.25 | Bou | JordanC: you miss a special script :) |
11:29.42 | Bou | cs is a custom command, that allows you to quickly Change to Source directory :) |
11:29.58 | Bou | JordanC: which page is the guide on? |
11:30.01 | JordanC | Aha, where do I grab this from>? |
11:30.08 | JordanC | http://milianw.de/blog/building-kdevplatform-kdevelop-and-the-php-plugin-from-svn |
11:30.12 | Bou | JordanC: sec |
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11:30.28 | Bou | JordanC: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
11:30.36 | Bou | and JordanC : http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts |
11:30.51 | Bou | i think you will find the script in the second link |
11:31.02 | JordanC | Yeah, I add this to my bashrc? |
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11:32.34 | Bou | JordanC: there is an example bashrc here: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc |
11:33.08 | Bou | but JordanC this is a guide for when you want to compile stuff from kde trunk, so maybe you should read the 2 pages totally and adapt it for you |
11:33.11 | Bou | i can't say much |
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11:33.38 | Bou | if you need more help keep asking on #kde-devel , this is were i learnt everything i know about it :) |
11:33.43 | Bou | away for lunch now |
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11:54.59 | oneforall | what app in kde4 uses python? |
11:55.10 | JordanC | Lots? |
11:55.31 | oneforall | trying to find other ones to see if I get the same segfault with libX11 |
11:56.16 | oneforall | hp-systray does it. know another off hand |
11:56.47 | pinotree | hp-systray is not an application we ship |
11:57.17 | oneforall | yeah I know . just looking for another one to see if I get the same segfault |
11:57.37 | JordanC | Argh, kdevplatform takes forever to make |
11:58.17 | oneforall | other than python its self I can't think of another app to run :( |
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11:59.01 | oneforall | one that uses python and will need libX11 |
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12:03.27 | esperegu_ | how to stop kde to open documents on login that are not available? I keep getting errors from okular and each time I click ok but each login it wants to open them again and displays the same error. |
12:04.02 | pinotree | esperegu_: how did you open those documents? are you leaving okular running when logging out? |
12:04.40 | esperegu_ | pinotree: I guess I did one time. |
12:04.47 | esperegu_ | pinotree: but now not anymore. |
12:04.53 | esperegu_ | pinotree: and it still keeps doing it |
12:05.14 | pinotree | are those okular processes/windows open? |
12:05.39 | esperegu_ | windows not. |
12:05.46 | pinotree | and still my first question: how did you open those documents at that time? opening them manually in okular itself? launching them from firefox? |
12:06.11 | esperegu_ | pinotree: I think via google chromium |
12:06.25 | esperegu_ | pinotree: I see that okular still has 3 processes running |
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12:06.34 | pinotree | then you didn't close them |
12:06.38 | esperegu_ | pinotree: like this: okular -session 10e5617070000125656691000000041220056_1257334492_722279 |
12:06.47 | pinotree | and looks like chromium sucks just like firefox, indeed |
12:07.11 | esperegu_ | pinotree: how to close them as a normal user when you have no window for it. |
12:07.25 | esperegu_ | pinotree: will just kill them by hand and hope it's gone then. |
12:07.30 | esperegu_ | pinotree: thx 4 u help... |
12:07.36 | pinotree | how to? you are asking too late |
12:07.56 | esperegu_ | pinotree: ? |
12:08.26 | esperegu_ | shoud have thought of checking the processes himself though.. |
12:08.29 | pinotree | your question "how to close them as a normal user when you have no window for it" cannot be replied now, as you left the problem the first time and let them be saved by the session |
12:08.55 | esperegu_ | pinotree: well. that's not my fault I would say. |
12:09.16 | esperegu_ | pinotree: that's either chrome, okular or kde. |
12:09.21 | pinotree | you could have asked earlier; not it is too late to find out what happened the *first* time |
12:09.25 | esperegu_ | but a user should be able to do that. |
12:09.41 | esperegu_ | just close up and later be able to get rid of it without using terminal. |
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12:10.01 | esperegu_ | well. whatever. fortunately I am able to do it this way. know a lot of user who could not. |
12:10.07 | esperegu_ | gonna relogin to check |
12:10.12 | esperegu_ | thx very much pinotree |
12:10.42 | JordanC | Wow, KDevelop is very pretty :D |
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12:11.44 | esperegu | pinotree: \o/ so simple and so much better :-). thx again |
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12:27.41 | sxe | anyone knows why the kde-apps kde-look rss feeds are offline? |
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12:57.35 | twouters | Hi, I'm using kde 4.3.3 on archlinux, but it seems that ksplash is using the default ksplash theme which is provided with 4.2. If I look at the preview it seems to be the correct one, but once I click on "Test Theme" I see the old version. |
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13:02.13 | kwyjibo | Is it possible to run KDE 4.3.3 in Windows? |
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13:03.38 | annma | will be on Friday kwyjibo |
13:03.42 | annma | hopefully |
13:03.49 | kwyjibo | what happens on friday? |
13:04.03 | annma | 4.3.3 on Windows |
13:04.09 | annma | didn't you just ask? |
13:04.46 | kwyjibo | So Friday is reserved entirely for the release of KDE 4.3.3 on Windows. Gotcha. |
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13:14.25 | JordanC | Ahaha |
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13:14.37 | JordanC | 20 minutes of compiling kdevelop etc |
13:14.56 | JordanC | And then the php component has a shitload of errors. Nice SVN'ing :/ |
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13:43.12 | Buzz| | hi |
13:43.40 | Buzz| | is it possible to synch kmail's mails/settings/etc. between my laptop and my dekstop computer? |
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13:46.59 | QwertyM | maybe if both can share a same config/local-storage directory this can be possible.. like dropbox or a network folder perhaps |
13:47.20 | QwertyM | for just mails one can use IMAP (if you don't mind re-downloading headers each time?) |
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14:01.56 | Buzz| | well imap isn't a solutino for me |
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14:02.23 | shepherd | Can someone tell me how to change the color of the text under the icons in my folder views? http://imagebin.ca/view/n2IpSH.html |
14:02.31 | Buzz| | dropbox? |
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14:08.30 | LjL | what possibilities are available currently to obtain an in-panel menubar? (i know about xbar) |
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14:15.30 | Buzz| | is dropbox save enough for having his mails and kmail-settings there? what if i'm working offline in kmail and can't access the old mails via kmail? |
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14:19.56 | mathz | can i speak german? |
14:20.12 | Buzz| | yep ^^ |
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14:21.06 | mathz | ok, ich ahbe unter KDe 4 das Problem, dass die "automatuschen2 icons von programmen wie pidgin nicht angezeigt werden.... |
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14:22.28 | pinotree | no, there's #kde.de for german; english in this channel, please |
14:22.57 | mathz | oh, sorry |
14:26.24 | mathz | at the bottom in the panel, i want icons from programs like pidgin or konversation |
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14:27.26 | mathz | i activated the icons in the preferences but there is not a icon... |
14:27.35 | mathz | Can anybody help me |
14:28.10 | Buzz| | hm |
14:28.39 | mathz | i have the problem in konversation and pidgin.... |
14:28.51 | mathz | and i use sidux with KDE 4 |
14:28.59 | Schorfi | you want the icons in the "schnellstarterleiste" or in the tray? |
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14:29.46 | Raptelan | hey guys, I'm trying to compile kdesupport on debian lenny, and I'm getting a missing OpenGL error: "OpenGL support is required to compile the gstreamer backend for Phonon" |
14:29.57 | Raptelan | anybody know what package I need to install to make it work? |
14:30.16 | mathz | i don't know, what ist the tray? |
14:30.28 | sahko | Raptelan: i think mesa |
14:32.29 | mathz | when i activate the icons in the preferences of pidgin, i cant the the icons |
14:32.36 | Buzz| | other ways to have same mails and setting with kmail on laptop and dekstop pc? |
14:33.01 | mathz | i can't see the icon anywhere |
14:33.10 | mathz | it's a big problem... |
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14:34.40 | ponto | annma: how can I try another window manager with kde4? I've checked my performance issues and within xfce the kde 4 applications run fine. Only within the native kde4 environment everything is sluggish. |
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14:39.58 | annma | ponto: install another WMthen in SystemSettings in Default Applications you can choose it |
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14:40.15 | ponto | annma: thanks. I try it. |
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14:42.12 | Raptelan | sahko: I already have mesa |
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14:43.01 | Raptelan | libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev, and mesa-common-dev packages are installed |
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14:44.41 | sahko | Raptelan: i dont know then |
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14:48.17 | Buzz| | when are changes to disconnected imap account in kmail synched to the server? |
14:48.25 | ponto | annma: I switched to Metacitiy and now switching between applications is as fast as expected. Only if plasma is involved it gets slow. For example: I have dolphin in front. then I left-click on the desktop. the mouse pointer freezes for half a second and then dolphin looses focus and the mouse pointer moves again. |
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14:56.32 | markus__ | hy everybody |
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14:57.14 | markus__ | Everytime I move the mousepointer over a plasmoid the toolbar at the side comes up. Can I prevent that? |
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15:03.17 | cb400f | markus__: yes.. right click on desktop -> lock widgets |
15:03.40 | annma | ponto: so kwinis slow and plasma |
15:03.44 | annma | ponto: so kwin is slow and plasma |
15:04.20 | cb400f | ponto: do you have effects enabled? .. and what gfx card? |
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15:06.47 | sahko | does -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull create much larger packages and takes much longer to build? |
15:07.07 | annma | cb400f: he switched to another WM |
15:07.11 | annma | to check |
15:07.21 | annma | cb400f: and this is thin client networking |
15:07.31 | cb400f | oh |
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15:09.57 | markus__ | cb400f: Thanx. That worked. I love kde4! |
15:10.42 | ponto | cb400f: there are no effects enabled. |
15:10.50 | markus__ | I have one last problem. How can I prevent that I get messages from skype and kopete at the same time for the same event? |
15:10.51 | ponto | cb400f: if i understand the gui correctly. |
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15:11.06 | ponto | cb400f: and i do not know how to find out the graphics card in the client machine |
15:11.12 | cb400f | exit skype? :-) |
15:11.44 | Half-Left | Kopete uses the skype binary, so you can not |
15:12.07 | cb400f | maybe notifications can be disabled in the skype client? .. never used it |
15:12.36 | cb400f | you prolly can't disable skype notifications in kopete without disabling all kopete incoming message notifications |
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15:13.17 | markus__ | damn ;-) so we have to collect 1.5 billion to free the skype code I guess ;-) |
15:13.25 | ponto | annma: is it possible to test kwin without plasma? |
15:13.39 | annma | kwin is different from plasma |
15:13.48 | annma | you can test kwin on another desktop |
15:13.51 | cb400f | 'kquitapp plasma-desktop' if you have 4.3 |
15:13.57 | annma | I mean, kde apps with kwin |
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15:14.10 | cb400f | alt+f2 -> 'plasma-desktop' to restart it after testing |
15:14.11 | annma | or yes, true, kill plasma |
15:14.14 | ponto | cb400f: I try this. |
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15:23.14 | ponto | cb400f, annma: After killing plasma-desktop with "kquitapp plasma-desktop" everything was still sluggish. In my opinion this indicates that kwin causes the problems. |
15:23.36 | annma | so why is it slow as well when no kwin? |
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15:24.07 | annma | try also with Metacity and without plasma |
15:24.16 | ponto | annma: without kwin the apps themselves were not slow. only when plasma came into play. |
15:24.31 | ponto | annma: I try it. |
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15:29.38 | ponto | annma: metacity without plasma is fine. clicking on the background has no effect. |
15:30.06 | annma | no |
15:30.21 | ponto | annma: metacitiy with plasma has the delay after clicking on the background and the taskbar is also slow. the applications are fine. |
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15:30.41 | annma | what do you click on the background for? |
15:30.59 | ponto | annma: just a random click. |
15:31.11 | annma | random left click? |
15:31.17 | ponto | annma: yes. |
15:31.28 | annma | what about right click |
15:31.39 | ponto | if i click on the background by chance i do not expect that the last window looses focus. |
15:33.05 | annma | this is not a thin client bug |
15:33.21 | annma | what if you right click on the desktop, is the dialog showing OK? |
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15:33.31 | annma | the left click is KWin then |
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15:33.42 | annma | I am trying to see if there is a plasma problem |
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15:34.11 | ponto | annma: moment. i have to check this. |
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15:36.34 | pluma | I'm trying to add a custom keyboard layout variant to xkb, but it doesn't show up in the system manager (Kxkb?). The help file refers to paths that I don't have (the xkb files are in /usr/share/X11, not /etc/X11 except for xkb/base.xml which is not mentioned in the help file at all and seems to be linked to xkb/rules/xfree86.xml). Help? |
15:36.34 | ponto | annma: the dialog appears after a noticable delay. |
15:36.40 | ponto | annma: my opinion is now that both have a problem kwin and plasma. |
15:36.56 | ponto | annma: kwin because there are delays even if plasma is not running and metacitiy is fine. |
15:37.09 | ponto | annma: plasma because there are delays when run under metacity. |
15:38.47 | annma | so report to kwin and add that plasma also is in cause. Be sure to detail your setup carefully and the specs of the machines if possible |
15:38.53 | annma | and the distro |
15:39.08 | annma | what distro is it? |
15:39.17 | ponto | annma: opensuse 11.2 rc1 |
15:39.26 | annma | is it a LTSP distro? |
15:39.27 | ponto | annma: but the slowness is also in 11.1 |
15:39.35 | ponto | annma: what is ltsp? |
15:39.40 | Elvanor | I have installed a System Monitor widget. Each time I reboot and login, I get additional widgets corresponding to the individual panes of the system monitor that I activated. |
15:39.42 | Elvanor | Is this a known bug? (I have to close those extra widgets at every boot, making it painful) |
15:40.25 | annma | LTSP Linux Terminal Server Project |
15:40.48 | annma | it's thin clients support to a linux server, mainly used in schools |
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15:41.33 | ponto | annma: no. it is a normal distribution and the client is a normal X11 terminal |
15:41.40 | annma | what tools do you use for yournetwork? |
15:41.43 | annma | nothing special? |
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15:42.02 | ponto | annma: no. I just enable XDMCP on the server and all clients see it. |
15:42.11 | annma | hmmm |
15:42.19 | annma | is that in an enterprize? |
15:42.24 | annma | or at home only? |
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15:43.10 | ponto | annma: university. |
15:43.22 | annma | so you're admin in a uni |
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15:43.29 | ponto | annma: we have about 50 clients. they still use kde 3.1 |
15:43.38 | annma | so |
15:43.39 | tommyd | hey there! what is the supposed way to access a samba share mounted from within dolphin in f.e. konsole? |
15:43.46 | tommyd | is there any way even? |
15:43.49 | ponto | annma: and we plan to upgrade now because kde 3.1 is slowly too old. |
15:43.51 | annma | I suggest you ask Suse support for that |
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15:44.20 | annma | and ask them what they would use in your case |
15:44.37 | ponto | annma: i can do that. |
15:44.37 | annma | I am sure you're not the first such network in kde4 |
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15:49.28 | QwertyM | tommyd: try finding the mount point? for devices its usually /media/*, likewise. |
15:49.51 | QwertyM | tommyd: cause if its been 'mounted' it has to exist on the fs as a node |
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16:05.32 | QwertyM | is updating his trunk KDE installation. |
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16:06.38 | BCMM | i have accidentally added an incorrect spelling to my personal dictionary (using the spellcheck dialog in konqueror) |
16:06.53 | BCMM | how can i view and edit my personal spellchecking dictionary? |
16:07.01 | AntiXpucT | hi there... I've some issues about 4.3.74: 1) why menu (kickoff, lancelot) icons on panel now gets small size if panel is bigger, than 48px? 2) how i can swith plasmoid off from new "add plasmoid" panel? I think, that old-type (window) was better :) |
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16:11.10 | pluma | To anybody else out there trying to get their custom keyboard layouts to be recognised: the file is called evdev.xml, xfree86.xml and xorg.xml do nothing. |
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16:14.21 | Half-Left | AntiXpucT: They have stayed a set max size in the panel since 4.2. |
16:14.34 | AntiXpucT | no |
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16:15.18 | Half-Left | Icons only re-size to a set size, they don't get bigger after that set size |
16:16.44 | AntiXpucT | since 4.3.64 (or .65) icon gets panel size if panel size <64(or 48, i don't know)px, and if I resize panel to bigger size - icon gets 32px size. |
16:17.02 | AntiXpucT | i can make 2 screenshots or try to make video |
16:17.20 | Half-Left | You using a dev version, things change |
16:17.25 | Half-Left | You're* |
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16:19.08 | AntiXpucT | i know :) but it starts from .64, now is .74... This thing take me thinking that kdededv make it purposely :) |
16:19.54 | AntiXpucT | *kdedevs |
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16:22.36 | QwertyM | wow, amazing work by openSUSE at integrating Firefox and KDE :) |
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16:23.55 | Half-Left | Hopefully Chromium when it's releases :p |
16:24.01 | azdtt | hi, is there any way to open .cbr or .cbz files with Gwenview 2.3.2? Gwenview doesn't let me open them directly, Dolphin doesn't let me browse those files like folders, and if I use the Gnome File Roller then Gwenview only let me see the pictures 1 by 1 instead of the full folder. |
16:25.47 | azdtt | and Ark doesn't give me the option "Open With", it just directly uses its own image viewer |
16:26.16 | Half-Left | Yes because it just previews them |
16:26.16 | BCMM | azdtt: wikipedia says that .cbr and .cbz are RAR and ZIP respectively |
16:26.39 | BCMM | azdtt: so you could just extract them with ark, then view teh resulting directory in gwenview |
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16:27.47 | DuzaK | or you could use comix to view them directly |
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16:28.42 | azdtt | yes BCMM but it's very handy to keep them in archived files |
16:28.51 | BCMM | azdtt: also, if you renamed the cbz ones to .zip i think dolphin would browse them like folders |
16:29.15 | azdtt | DuzaK: I'll try it, Okular can also handle them, but I prefer how Gwenview show pictures |
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16:31.20 | azdtt | BCMM: I have the preferences setted as "Dolphin Preferences >> Navigation >> Open archives as folder" but Dolphin still spawns Ark :\ |
16:31.34 | azdtt | I think that wasn't the behaviour in the past |
16:31.37 | BCMM | azdtt: even with .zip files? |
16:31.38 | reinhold_away | Does anyone know how I can import an X509 certificate (S/MIME) for email signing into kmail and for login in konqueror with KDE 4.3.2? kleopatra always tells me that it can't handle X509 certificates. BTW, I'm on kubuntu karmic |
16:32.03 | azdtt | yes I tried renaming it to .rar in this case |
16:32.17 | azdtt | maybe it just work with .zip's |
16:33.26 | azdtt | yes, it seems it only works with .zip files |
16:34.14 | azdtt | comix works well, I still prefer Gwenview but it's good enough, thanks |
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16:35.52 | DuzaK | well, comix has the unbeatable doublepage-mode! ^^ |
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16:49.33 | maredzek | hi, i have a problem with compilikng kdevelop what packages do i miss? http://pastebin.com/m540ad33b |
16:50.02 | pinotree | kdevplatform |
16:50.27 | annma | Could not find a configuration file for package KDevPlatform. |
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16:52.56 | Stalafin | hussa! there used to be a plasmoid to activate/deactive compositing (kwin)... what happened to it (kde4.3)? and what was its name... maybe i can find it somewhere |
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16:54.34 | Half-Left | Stalafin: Most lightly on kde-look.org |
16:56.16 | Stalafin | Half-Left: smart suggestion, i found it :) haha |
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17:08.03 | puchu | hi |
17:08.08 | puchu | im using kde 4.3.3 and since 4.3.2 i have this problem |
17:08.24 | puchu | after some time of using kde ... kwin seems to crash and i cant change desktops any more |
17:08.34 | puchu | the show alls desktops effect deosnt work any more |
17:08.58 | puchu | but the show all sunning apps effect works |
17:09.16 | puchu | a kwin --replace fixes the problem ... but running kwin --replace really sucks .... |
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17:09.42 | reavertm | puchu: try disable/enable compositing :P |
17:09.49 | puchu | how can i find out whats happening |
17:09.53 | reavertm | I think I have similar issue |
17:10.05 | reavertm | puchu: you can't - kwin bug |
17:10.08 | puchu | i use xorg-server 1.7.1 and nvidia bin drivers |
17:10.23 | puchu | i thought they maybe fixed this in the new release |
17:10.26 | reavertm | puchu: please fill in a bug report |
17:11.01 | Half-Left | Does XRender work? |
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17:11.09 | mgraesslin | but please provide more info than here |
17:11.19 | mgraesslin | that doesn't help to identify the problem yet |
17:11.26 | puchu | i cant select apps on differnt desktops too ... desktop doesnt switch to the desktop the apps is running on ... |
17:11.30 | reavertm | mgraesslin: see? there's some other :P |
17:11.43 | puchu | but with the show all running apps effect it still works |
17:11.48 | Half-Left | I heard 1.7.1 had issues with the NVIDIA driver |
17:12.00 | reavertm | puchu: does cube effect work when it happens? |
17:12.01 | puchu | mgraesslin: how can i find out whats happening |
17:12.09 | puchu | i dont use the cube effect |
17:12.24 | reavertm | desktop grid? |
17:12.27 | puchu | no |
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17:12.47 | puchu | only show all running apps + show all running apps on current desktop works |
17:12.57 | Half-Left | puchu: Does Xrender work? |
17:13.15 | puchu | how can u find out? |
17:13.23 | reavertm | Half-Left: I think he uses opengl compositing (like myself) |
17:13.27 | Half-Left | In Advanced |
17:13.35 | puchu | transparency still works |
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17:13.40 | puchu | yeah i use compositing |
17:13.48 | Half-Left | Yeah but you need to know if it's kwin or the NVIDIA driver |
17:13.57 | puchu | how do i find out? |
17:14.05 | Half-Left | As I just said |
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17:14.58 | reavertm | puchu: systemsettings->display->desktop effects->adanced(tab) |
17:15.33 | puchu | compositing type opengl |
17:15.45 | puchu | should i use xrender? |
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17:15.55 | Half-Left | Yes, see if it works |
17:16.02 | puchu | yeah it works |
17:16.05 | reavertm | if you tolerate unusably slow desktop... |
17:16.24 | puchu | but swiching back to opengl right after and it works again .... with opengl |
17:16.29 | Half-Left | It's just for debugging the issue |
17:16.56 | puchu | maybe i should downgrade to 6.5 xserver |
17:16.57 | reavertm | puchu: so it's the same issue I have occasionally |
17:17.07 | puchu | reavertm: which xserver? |
17:17.14 | puchu | and wich nvidia-drivers version? |
17:17.17 | Half-Left | And Xrender is not slow, it's actually faster in some respects but you don't get a lot of the features |
17:17.31 | puchu | and it uses more cpu time? right? |
17:17.48 | Half-Left | Pretty much |
17:17.53 | puchu | that sucks |
17:18.11 | Half-Left | Resizing windows is much smoother here |
17:18.15 | reavertm | xorg-server-1.6.3.901, nvidia-drivers-173.14.20 |
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17:18.46 | puchu | su |
17:19.17 | puchu | xorg-server-1.7.1 nvidia-drivers-190.42 |
17:19.21 | Half-Left | puchu: If Xrender works as normal then it's most lightly a NVIDIA driver issue |
17:19.37 | puchu | Half-Left it only happens after some hours of usage |
17:19.54 | puchu | and sometimes not even in a whole day |
17:20.16 | puchu | i didnt see this on 4.3.1 |
17:20.23 | Half-Left | You have to proved it's kwin and not the NVIDIA driver, it's know to have issues with the latest XOrg release |
17:20.24 | puchu | started with 4.3.2 |
17:20.31 | Half-Left | known* |
17:20.36 | reavertm | Half-Left: I don't see Xrender thing relevant to any reasoning |
17:21.07 | puchu | maybe i should downgrade xorg-server and use it and see if it happens again |
17:21.13 | Half-Left | reavertm: The NVIDIA driver uses OpenGL, which maybe the source of the issue |
17:21.13 | reavertm | Half-Left: disable/enable compositing switch in kwin 'fixes' this, how about this :) |
17:21.29 | reavertm | no, nvidia driver provides opengl, kwin uses |
17:21.31 | puchu | or kwin --replace |
17:21.39 | puchu | also fixes it |
17:22.00 | puchu | but --replace sucks |
17:22.06 | reavertm | puchu: when it happes, try running glxgears or some other opengl app, I'll try the same |
17:22.09 | Half-Left | Still, you have top prove it's Kwin, I don't see any proof :) |
17:22.14 | mgraesslin | and what about just twice alt+shift+f12 |
17:22.18 | Half-Left | to* |
17:22.20 | puchu | reavertm: opengl still works |
17:22.24 | reavertm | mgraesslin: "fixes" |
17:22.27 | puchu | transparency is still there |
17:22.42 | puchu | when it happens |
17:22.44 | puchu | to me |
17:22.58 | puchu | or to be more accurate to my pc ;) |
17:23.14 | reavertm | (that's what I do, i do it as well to restore zoom effect, it sometimes refuses to work, like it lost keyboard shortcut or sth) |
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17:24.31 | reavertm | issue with zoom effect 'loosing keyboard shortcut' bothers me from a loong time |
17:24.41 | Half-Left | Kwin uses OpenGL* |
17:24.41 | reavertm | for* |
17:25.08 | puchu | only see all running apps on current and all desktops still works with desktop switching (when the app is running on another desktop) ... all other switch desktop functions dont work .. (hotkeys,workspaceswitcher) |
17:25.32 | puchu | desktopgrid also doesnt work |
17:25.45 | puchu | a look at this log would be nice :) |
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17:27.28 | Half-Left | Try reinstalling your NVIDIA driver and restart Xorg and see if the issue persists |
17:27.35 | puchu | doesnt help |
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17:27.57 | Half-Left | Does the old driver work? |
17:28.20 | puchu | didnt test this |
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17:29.00 | reavertm | since it's not reliable to reproduce...just may happen after some time |
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17:29.58 | reavertm | btw, am I the only one that thinks that one-pixel-size screen corner activators are way too small? |
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17:30.43 | the_madman | reavertm: Possibly, I think they're big enough - they don't have to be very big, given that the corners are generally easier to hit with a mouse. |
17:30.45 | reavertm | (I remember lmurray thinking about extending it to lines for 4.3....) |
17:31.23 | reavertm | I happen to have problems with activating lower left corner |
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17:40.41 | puchu | Half-Left: i build my xorg-server with kdrive .. i will disable it and try it again |
17:40.46 | puchu | maybe thats the cause |
17:42.03 | reavertm | no kdrive here |
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17:43.45 | puchu | dont know for what kdrive is good at all |
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17:47.42 | botmind | Hi. I have upgraded my Debian from Etch to Lenny. But in the KDE Image on "Start" button it still shows 3.5?! |
17:48.03 | botmind | why the image not changed to the 4 version? |
17:49.10 | muep_ | botmind: Debian Lenny ships KDE 3.5 |
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17:49.24 | muep_ | not KDE 4 |
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17:50.03 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
17:50.05 | botmind | oh really.. I see then |
17:50.10 | zaythan_ | Afternoon |
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17:51.04 | Kenjiro | guys, I am having a "strange problem". Some months ago konqueror would find and use the flash plugin I installed for Firefox. Some time after some KDE-4 upgrade (or qt upgrade) konqueror can't find/use the plugin anymore. |
17:51.07 | botmind | muep_: any idea about Ubuntu 9.10 ? |
17:51.15 | Kenjiro | any tips? I am currently running KDE-4.3.3 and qt-4.6 (kde-qt) |
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17:52.14 | muep_ | botmind: Ubuntu 9.10 has KDE 4.3.something |
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17:52.32 | Wizard | http://mati.7ds.pl/kde.png :> |
17:52.35 | Wizard | did it! |
17:52.39 | muep_ | botmind: you can check the software versions from packages.ubuntu.com |
17:52.57 | botmind | muep_: thx.. as I installed Ubuntu 5.1 and it had Gnome which I dont like.. so they decided to switch to KDE? |
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17:53.12 | muep_ | botmind: no |
17:53.19 | Wizard | muep_: look at the screenshot :P |
17:53.22 | muep_ | botmind: but ubuntu has included KDE for years |
17:53.38 | muep_ | botmind: even Ubuntu 5.10 did |
17:53.55 | muep_ | botmind: they just default to Gnome, and probably will do so in the foreseeable future |
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17:54.29 | muep_ | botmind: there's also the kubuntu project at kubuntu.org, which provides Ubuntu preloaded with KDE |
17:54.33 | lontra | what file needs to be edit to change the font size for the kdm themes? |
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17:54.50 | botmind | muep_: tx I checked there and its quite confusing: kdm: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 |
17:55.20 | muep_ | botmind: is that from debian? |
17:55.58 | botmind | muep_: yes http://packages.debian.org/lenny/kdm |
17:56.29 | botmind | muep_: so they still go default with Gnome unless unsing Kubuntu? |
17:57.09 | muep_ | botmind: yes |
17:57.27 | zaythan_ | but isn't KDE > Gnome? |
17:57.40 | muep_ | zaythan_: isn't blue > red? |
17:57.49 | zaythan_ | no red > blue ;) |
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17:58.22 | zaythan_ | i suppose it just seems that Kubunut is like a cusin of Ubuntu |
17:58.42 | simcop2387 | is there an easy way to send messages to knotify4 from a shell script? (running in the same login session as the user of course) |
17:59.28 | botmind | ok.. so finally which really version is shipped with Debian Lenny? 4 or 3.5? what does 4:3.5.9 suppose to mean? |
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18:01.02 | pinotree | botmind: you should ask in #debian-kde on the irc network irc.debian.net |
18:01.05 | lontra | what file needs to be edit to change the font size for the kdm themes? |
18:01.24 | muep_ | botmind: epoch 4, version 3.5.9 |
18:01.35 | botmind | hmm thx |
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18:05.29 | Kenjiro | has anyone had problems compiling kde-4.3.3 against qt-4.6 (kde-qt)? |
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18:10.59 | adoudoux | Hello there, I just wanted to take a few minutes to join this channel to say that in my opinion the KDE team is doing an amazing job! :) |
18:11.14 | adoudoux | Have a nice day |
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18:38.59 | Jonathan_L | I've heard that plasmaoids can be made to be displayed only on chosen desktop spaces - how? |
18:39.02 | ArchType | I've noticed that in kde 4.3 in home directory I have ~/.cache |
18:39.04 | ArchType | can I remove it? |
18:39.10 | ArchType | I'm getting out of space :D |
18:39.13 | Jonathan_L | You can probably |
18:39.18 | ArchType | also ~/.local |
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18:39.27 | Jonathan_L | but it will be recreated very soon unless there's and error |
18:39.29 | ArchType | Jonathan_L: what is in ~/.cache? |
18:39.36 | Jonathan_L | Cache!? |
18:39.44 | ArchType | Jonathan_L: right |
18:39.51 | Jonathan_L | Like when you browse the web, files like images are stored locally |
18:39.55 | ArchType | ok |
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18:40.02 | Jonathan_L | KDE generates temporary files too. |
18:41.04 | Jonathan_L | There's a lot of times when tasks uses temporary space on the HDD instead of putting everything in RAM, and for sane reasons too |
18:41.11 | PasNox | hello all |
18:41.35 | Jonathan_L | So, how can I chose which desktop to place plasmaoids on? |
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18:51.40 | Jonathan_L | Nobody? |
18:51.57 | Jonathan_L | And Amarok spotted playing sound in the middle of a song ... |
18:52.00 | Jonathan_L | *stopped |
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18:56.18 | Necos | ? |
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18:56.56 | localnnuser__ | kscreensaver doesnt start, any ideas why? |
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18:57.16 | annma | bad install? |
18:57.30 | annma | how did you install it localnnuser__ |
18:57.32 | localnnuser__ | ive reinstalled it |
18:57.38 | annma | how? |
18:57.45 | localnnuser__ | via synaptic |
18:58.07 | localnnuser__ | kscreensaver and it showed me some dependencies to install and i did it |
18:58.31 | puchu | localnnuser__: maybe restarting kde helps? |
18:58.37 | localnnuser__ | it doesnt |
18:58.44 | localnnuser__ | ive restarted it a lot of times |
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18:58.52 | puchu | synaptic which ditro is this? |
18:58.58 | localnnuser__ | im using last packages of karmic koala |
18:59.02 | localnnuser__ | ubuntu |
18:59.22 | puchu | can help you im on gentoo |
18:59.25 | puchu | cant |
18:59.46 | localnnuser__ | im quite sure the error is in .kde4 |
18:59.54 | localnnuser__ | ill delete all .files |
19:00.06 | puchu | move it to another path and restart kde |
19:00.12 | puchu | so u can restor it |
19:01.12 | Kenjiro | anyone know why konqueror can't find the same flash plugin firefox uses? |
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19:05.34 | beer | Kenjiro: I am using the same flash plugin to konq 3.5 and firefox 3 |
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19:06.14 | daniel00 | hi |
19:06.44 | daniel00 | I'm trying to download and install some spash screen but after I press install it doesn't show up in the list |
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19:07.18 | Kenjiro | beer: oh sorry.. I am referring to konqueror in kde-4.3.x |
19:07.58 | Kenjiro | in my current case it is konqueror-4.3.3 |
19:08.24 | daniel00 | Anyone has any idea why? |
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19:30.14 | Jonathan_L | How do I restart my audio system? I'm getting the error message that HDA ATI something don't work |
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19:35.28 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: get rid of pulseaudio, sounds like it hijacks your sound |
19:35.56 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: what distribution? |
19:36.54 | Jonathan_L | Ubunt 9.10, KDE 4.3 |
19:36.54 | Jonathan_L | It worked first, then it stopped |
19:36.54 | Mamarok | yep, that's the problem, KDE doesn't use pulseaudio |
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19:36.55 | Mamarok | and I bet you have pulseaudio isntalled |
19:36.55 | Jonathan_L | But it worked earlier |
19:36.55 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: believe me, you are better off without |
19:37.17 | Jonathan_L | Doesn't Gnome use it? |
19:37.26 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: unless you also use Gnome... |
19:37.41 | Jonathan_L | I do. Right now I'm in KDE |
19:37.51 | Jonathan_L | But I use mostly GNome |
19:38.29 | Mamarok | well, then welcome to pulseaudio hell, it screws sound in KDE, unfortunately. |
19:38.46 | Jonathan_L | What can I do? |
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19:39.44 | Mamarok | try pushing it to the bottom, install the phonon-xine-backend and the kubuntu-restricted-extras, set the phonon backend to use xine in the systemsettings->Multimedia, remove the $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc file and restart KDE, that should o the trick |
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19:40.07 | Jonathan_L | Script, please? ;) |
19:40.23 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: come on, that's not difficult to do |
19:40.40 | Jonathan_L | joke |
19:40.45 | Mamarok | blame the people who force pulseaudio on everybody |
19:41.27 | Jonathan_L | it's phonon-backend-xine |
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19:41.36 | Mamarok | yes, right |
19:41.57 | Jonathan_L | the tab button is nice in the terminal |
19:42.15 | Jonathan_L | really nice that it can be used to find package names |
19:42.16 | looonger | what works better in kde4? compiz or kwin effects? |
19:42.29 | Vroomfondle | kwin |
19:42.43 | Jonathan_L | For me personally, Compiz. But then you get the Gnome theme unless you install a KDE theme |
19:42.56 | Jonathan_L | (on window frames) |
19:43.20 | Jonathan_L | Compiz is a lot more flexible |
19:44.37 | mgraesslin | kwin is better integrated |
19:44.38 | Jonathan_L | Mamarok: What about $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc ? What is it? One of those messy config files we're glad that they are replaced automatically if deleted? |
19:44.40 | looonger | Jonathan_L: I ask cause these kwin effects don't work smooth and I haven't seen compiz for a while |
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19:45.12 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: well, it's not messay at all, it's just made messy by pulseaudio |
19:45.14 | Jonathan_L | looonger: Try Compiz if you want to. Then you can judge for yourself. It's a lot about personal taste |
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19:45.40 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: did you even try KWin? |
19:46.03 | Mamarok | using Compiz in KDE is not necessary, KWIN can do this and is better integrated |
19:46.10 | Jonathan_L | Mamarok: Yes, that's what I'm using now. This is a "clean" install (kept /home, wiped the rest) |
19:46.37 | Jonathan_L | I used Compiz before. Partly because I'm used of some of it's features from Gnome |
19:46.47 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: well, works fine here, no need for Compiz, also isntalling Compiz to work in KDE takes more than just installing the packages |
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19:47.08 | Mamarok | you also need to change the desktop-manager |
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19:47.18 | looonger | Mamarok: that's why I ask cause kwin effects are nice enough for me but everything's quite choppy when they're enabled |
19:47.28 | Jonathan_L | No need, I didn't. |
19:47.40 | Mamarok | looonger: that very much depends on your graphic driver I would say |
19:47.56 | looonger | Mamarok: certainly |
19:48.00 | Mamarok | works nice and smooth for me |
19:48.55 | Jonathan_L | looonger: System settings -> Standard apps -> window manager |
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19:53.02 | Jonathan_L | What's the difference between gdm and kdm? |
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19:53.56 | Jonathan_L | I'm able to pick WM on the login screen with the default login window in Ubuntu 9.10 (as well as before), and I kept gdm |
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19:55.29 | kirun | I thought I had that problem, turned out it wasn't setting the correct resolution and I could mouse off-screen to get to the options. Not checked for 9.10 yet though. |
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19:56.17 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: gdm is for Gnome, kdm is for KDE, as simple as that |
19:56.33 | Jonathan_L | Sure, but what do they do? |
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19:56.42 | Mamarok | the login manager for the desktop |
19:56.42 | PovAddict | how can I make a mouse button click switch desktops? |
19:56.52 | PovAddict | I already found the dbus call to switch desktops |
19:57.08 | PovAddict | but can't find anything in KDE to assign a global action to *mouse* input |
19:57.27 | Mamarok | PovAddict: check the code of the pager widget |
19:57.34 | Mamarok | it does exactly that |
19:57.50 | PovAddict | exactly what? |
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19:59.25 | Jonathan_L | hmm... Installing kubuntu extras restricted. I'm wondering on how to accept the java EULA |
19:59.30 | Jonathan_L | Enter don't work |
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20:00.52 | Jonathan_L | are willing to hit Ctrl+C soon ... |
20:01.06 | PovAddict | y? |
20:01.10 | PovAddict | 'yes'? |
20:01.29 | Jonathan_L | tried |
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20:01.42 | Jonathan_L | There's no text box |
20:02.30 | Jonathan_L | It's a "graphical" ui. probably using ncurses or whatever |
20:02.42 | Jonathan_L | Want a screen shot? |
20:03.15 | Necos | space bar tile the end |
20:03.26 | Necos | *til |
20:03.39 | Jonathan_L | space bar do nothing |
20:04.20 | Necos | doesnt it have --MORE 5%-- or something like that at the bottom? |
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20:05.41 | Jonathan_L | No, it's just a red thingy at the right that I forgot the english name of |
20:06.14 | Jonathan_L | I can only use up/down and PgUp/PgDn to scroll |
20:06.21 | rogersman | Culd someone suggest the best way to migrate kde settings to another user? will a simply copy and chown of ~/.kde be safe to perform? thanks |
20:06.25 | Jonathan_L | (it's a red scroll bar) |
20:07.36 | PovAddict | rogersman: I'd "grep -r" for the old username in the new .kde |
20:07.53 | PovAddict | rogersman: maybe a config has an absolute path or something |
20:07.55 | Jonathan_L | oh, got it |
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20:10.12 | Jonathan_L | KDE is already set to use xine (as far as I can tell) |
20:10.15 | Jonathan_L | then what? |
20:10.27 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: with the arrow, to highlight the Ok, then enter |
20:10.37 | Jonathan_L | just wipe $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc ? |
20:10.44 | Jonathan_L | Mamarok: Yeah, managed to do that already |
20:12.04 | Jonathan_L | tested HDA ATI SB from System settings > Multimedia. It works |
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20:13.01 | Jonathan_L | And it's highest in the list |
20:13.11 | Jonathan_L | The pulseaudio entries don't work |
20:13.35 | Jonathan_L | Then what do I have to do with Amarok? Should I still wipe that file and login and log out again? |
20:13.40 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: as I said earlier, you should avoid pulseaudio in KDE |
20:14.20 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: did you remove that phonondevicesrc file and restart KDE? |
20:14.29 | Jonathan_L | But it works great in Gnome. There's an option for setting voume per application. I might switch when I can use the same feature set in one working backend everywhere |
20:14.55 | Mamarok | *sigh*, well then you need to ask somebody else, sorry |
20:15.25 | Jonathan_L | Gonna restart |
20:15.29 | Jonathan_L | (KDE) |
20:15.32 | Jonathan_L | bye |
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20:15.41 | Mamarok | bye |
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20:18.33 | bradford | Hey, I'm having an issue with KAddressBook and an LDAP server, is this the right channel for help with that? |
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20:20.00 | Jonathan_L | Why didn't the keyboard or the mouse pad work when I logged out!? |
20:20.14 | Jonathan_L | I can hear sounds from Pidgin |
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20:21.21 | Jonathan_L | Mamarok: Hi again. It works now |
20:21.39 | bradford | KAddressbook doesn't save changes to one contact record (the inetOrgPerson used to authenticate with the LDAP server). What do I need to do so I can change this record's information? |
20:21.40 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: nice :) |
20:21.53 | Jonathan_L | BTW: The error message did say that it tried to use Pulseaudio because HDA ATI didn't work |
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20:23.27 | Jonathan_L | Now, how do I make different plasmaoids show on chosen desktop spaces? |
20:24.09 | Jonathan_L | BTW: I'm using catalog view - does that make any difference? |
20:24.42 | PovAddict | Jonathan_L: use different "activities" |
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20:24.58 | Jonathan_L | How? Where? |
20:25.14 | PovAddict | I think you can make it so that each desktop has a different "activity" by default... don't remember where |
20:25.31 | PovAddict | to make one manually, go to the config button on the corner of the desktop and click "zoom out" |
20:25.59 | Jonathan_L | then what? |
20:26.15 | PovAddict | then "add activity" :) |
20:26.40 | Jonathan_L | Where? |
20:27.14 | PovAddict | if you clicked zoom out, you'll see it |
20:27.37 | Jonathan_L | No? |
20:27.54 | Jonathan_L | Add graphic components? |
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20:31.13 | Jonathan_L | BTW: My setup is swedish - should I switch language? |
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20:31.43 | Jonathan_L | (to make it easier to follow instructions) |
20:32.25 | PovAddict | actually I find activities quite confusing |
20:32.36 | Jonathan_L | I can't find it |
20:32.45 | Jonathan_L | Want a screen shot? |
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20:34.02 | Jonathan_L | it's just zoomed out now. The regular desktop space is in the upper left corner. The panel is still at the bottom. The rest is grey/white boxes |
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20:34.27 | Jonathan_L | and "Add graphic components", zoom-in button and config button |
20:35.06 | Jonathan_L | config says nothing about activites, and graphic blablabla is plasmaoid adding |
20:35.50 | Jonathan_L | Aaah, it was minimized....... x( |
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20:37.24 | Jonathan_L | What does "use a seperate instrument panel" do? Sounds like it seperates the desktop spaces completely so that windows only are displayed on the one they are opened on |
20:37.34 | PovAddict | I have no clue |
20:39.38 | Jonathan_L | Got it working now |
20:40.09 | Jonathan_L | Just wanna know if I can make certain plasmaoids appear on all desktops without adding them manually |
20:40.36 | PovAddict | "activities are not workspaces; think of them as 'uniforms' for your desktops" |
20:41.51 | PovAddict | they only affect the desktop, not windows on it |
20:41.52 | Jonathan_L | Uniforms? That's even weirder |
20:42.14 | Jonathan_L | Now I've set keyboard shortcuts for switching desktop spaces |
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20:43.51 | Jonathan_L | I've got 4 spaces. They are in a 2x2 grid, so it looks wierd when switching from space 1 to 4 or 2 to 3 - can I change that? I know I can make it like 1x4, but then the desktop switcher "applet" will waste even more space in my panel |
20:44.09 | Jonathan_L | (using the qube effect) |
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20:46.15 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: don't put it in the panel, put it on the desktop |
20:47.09 | Mamarok | Jonathan_L: or use a different activity for each virtual desktop, then use the pager |
20:47.34 | Jonathan_L | Then I have to add it to every desktop (for sanity, when I forget the keyboard shortcuts ) |
20:48.07 | Mamarok | no, you only add it to every activity (in the first case) |
20:48.18 | Mamarok | or just don't use activities then |
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20:52.21 | Jonathan_L | It's a lot cleaner now |
20:52.23 | Jonathan_L | :D |
20:53.08 | PovAddict | how do I move activities in the zoomed-out view? |
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20:53.50 | Jonathan_L | Click-n-drag? |
20:54.03 | Jonathan_L | That's what I did |
20:54.35 | PovAddict | that scrolls the view |
20:54.38 | PovAddict | doesn't move the activities |
20:55.21 | PovAddict | and after I zoom back in, Xorg is eating 60% CPU |
20:55.36 | PovAddict | my conclusion is that the ZUI sucks |
20:57.00 | Jonathan_L | Gonna add system monitors - which non-huge resizeble is the best? |
20:57.22 | Jonathan_L | Have to go very soon, btw |
20:58.43 | Jonathan_L | How many here like the inaccurate watch? I do. Gonna put it on a desktop space |
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21:04.42 | SliMM | hello |
21:04.49 | jamesbond-4711 | hi |
21:04.55 | SliMM | how fast is kde 4.3(.3)? |
21:05.19 | Jonathan_L | Decent on my laptop. 1.6 Ghz dual core, 2 GB ram |
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21:05.24 | icwiener_ | SliMM: There is no real measurement for that. |
21:05.32 | Jonathan_L | It's not bad. |
21:06.11 | SliMM | compared to gnome |
21:06.13 | SliMM | ? |
21:06.14 | SliMM | :) |
21:06.21 | Jonathan_L | Slower. |
21:06.22 | icwiener_ | It runs fine here on a Athlon XP 2000+, which is a 1,6 GHz single core. |
21:06.27 | pinotree | try that yourself, on your computer |
21:06.27 | jamesbond-4711 | question: I'm using krusader and everytime I copy a file or directory, instead of a "normal" dialog there appears some kind of notification from the systray. I know that this can be changed, but I forgot where. :-( |
21:06.28 | SliMM | damn |
21:06.31 | Jonathan_L | But I'm using both, and think that KDE ain't bad |
21:06.57 | jamesbond-4711 | where do I find this setting: in the krusader configuration or in the KDE system settings? |
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21:07.09 | SliMM | pinotree: well, hmm, if i install it and don't like it, i won't uninstall it |
21:07.28 | SliMM | for at least half a year |
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21:07.35 | pinotree | ... so? |
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21:07.43 | SliMM | so that's why i'm asking |
21:07.59 | SliMM | is the network manager plasmoid fixed? |
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21:08.23 | pinotree | what you asked is highly subject, on either "personal" feeling an on computer capabilities |
21:08.42 | [Steven_M] | hi all |
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21:08.58 | pinotree | the network manager plasmoid has always been experimental, blame kubuntu for shipping unstable software |
21:09.16 | pinotree | now it is a standalone application, much like kde3's knetworkmanager |
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21:09.35 | pinotree | jamesbond-4711: in the configuration of the system tray widget (right click â system tray configuration) |
21:09.39 | SliMM | can i use it for connecting to hidden networks? |
21:10.18 | SliMM | and, can i create ad-hoc networks/share internet connection? |
21:11.00 | jamesbond-4711 | pinotree: ic, I didn't look there... :-) |
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21:11.10 | [Steven_M] | is there any way to get konqueror to enfoce a backround on a webpage? |
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21:11.52 | jamesbond-4711 | pinotree: thx! |
21:12.26 | jamesbond-4711 | one more question: is it still not possible to have different wallpapers on the virtual desktops? |
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21:12.59 | Jonathan_L | I think that Gnome's NetworkManager is better - partially because I get a list of WLANs by clicking on it and can connect by a single click |
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21:13.24 | [Steven_M] | I mean enforce |
21:13.26 | Jonathan_L | jamesbond-4711: I can't find an option for it |
21:13.47 | bradford_ | Any ideas why KAddressbook won't save changes to one contact record? |
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21:13.54 | Jonathan_L | You can have a huge plasmaoid :D |
21:14.02 | bradford_ | I'm using Kaddressbook 4.3 with an LDAP backend |
21:14.38 | jamesbond-4711 | Jonathan_L: I don't rellay understand that, KDE3 had this feature and I guess it is not really too complex to implement it... - why is KDE4 lacking such essential stuff? |
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21:15.42 | Jonathan_L | Because it was reworked from the ground? A lot of features can remain unimplemented for a while if nobody asks for them |
21:15.53 | [Steven_M] | is there any way to get konqueror to enforce a backround color on a webpage? |
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21:21.15 | [Steven_M] | is there any way to get konqueror to enfoce a backround on a webpage? |
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21:22.50 | Jonathan_L | The plasmaoid for putting gadgets on top don't work now when I'm using "activities"! |
21:23.09 | Jonathan_L | [Steven_M]: didn't find any. Didn't look hard, though |
21:23.32 | Jonathan_L | going now, bye. |
21:23.51 | [Steven_M] | Jonathan_L: see ya |
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21:30.15 | bradford_ | Hm, further investigation reveals that KAddressbook can't change attributes of contacts with a space in the LDAP CommonName |
21:30.29 | [Steven_M] | bye all |
21:30.41 | bradford_ | Filing a bug report... |
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21:33.45 | Sho_ | KAddressBook is about to be replaced |
21:35.25 | bradford_ | Really? With what? |
21:35.51 | cb400f | kcontactmanager |
21:36.07 | cb400f | akonadi stuff |
21:36.24 | blueck | bradford_: with KAddressBook of course |
21:36.38 | blueck | bradford_: happended in trunk some weeks ago |
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21:37.52 | bradford_ | Oh ok. So the new KAddressbook isn't ready yet? The Kontact about page still lists KAddressbook as a component |
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21:46.07 | proteus | I need some help: I just got a windows user converted to kubuntu but he's having a problem with his taskbar/panel disappearing and all the info I find on the web seems out of date. I've already tried having him kill plasma-desktop and restart it with no success. any assistance would be most appreciated! I don't want my friend heading back over to the dark side! |
21:46.10 | proteus | unfortunately, though experienced with bsd/linux I've been using xfce for quite a while and the new kde is unfamiliar to me |
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21:59.46 | rg1 | i need to setup my CentOS-5.3 system so that it shares a directory/folder to my windows XP machine - can someone tell me how to config that on gnome/kde side? |
21:59.52 | rg1 | i have samba services running |
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22:00.08 | rg1 | i can't find the GUI menu to do the actual sharing |
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22:09.57 | cb400f | rg1: ask in centos channel.. pretty sure RH provide some samba tool |
22:10.27 | cb400f | there should be one in kcontrol too.. but prolly better to use the "official" tool |
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22:12.59 | Necos | actually, there shouldn't be one in kcontrol since samba is not a part of KDE. |
22:13.16 | Necos | there should be a 3rd party add-on for samba control (and there is) |
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22:13.38 | The_User | web-comic-plasmoid users here? |
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22:14.37 | The_User | I can install comics (the .comic file is found) but I can't select them |
22:15.25 | The_User | I tried to set comic=xkcd in the plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
22:15.30 | The_User | but it does not work |
22:15.40 | The_User | could anybody look into his configuration-file? |
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22:18.47 | MinceR | how can i keep plasma from using the crossfade effect when the desktop slideshow changes to the next background? i'd like it to just change immediately. |
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22:21.52 | Jester | When I click "open link" in konsole, it fires up kio_http [kdeinit] which transfers to the web browser. How can I configure which web browser it will use? (I can't use the kde menu, I'm not in kde) |
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22:30.06 | Parkotron | Jester: You have systemsettings? |
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22:31.37 | Stalafin | kspread - since 2.0.90 something is seriously broken; when i start it, it won't display the actual spreadsheet; the bars at the right and left are displayed just fine, just the spreadsheet is missing (instead you see remnants of the choose template screen); same happens with .91; are there maybe soe config files i should delete/ |
22:32.26 | The_User | milian has helped me with plasma :) |
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22:33.19 | Jester | Parkotron: nope, I can install it though |
22:34.11 | Jester | System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence nothing is available to configure |
22:34.15 | Jester | heh |
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22:36.46 | rogersman | Anyone here of any decent speech recognition software for *nix? wikipedia says no, and google aint too helpful either |
22:37.09 | cb400f | simon |
22:37.14 | cb400f | heard some good things |
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22:37.28 | dahud | perhaps Dragon through WINE? |
22:37.31 | cb400f | happens to be a kde app too :-) |
22:37.54 | cb400f | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/simon+(Speech+Interaction+Daemon)?content=73815 |
22:37.56 | Jester | Parkotron: k it works if I open it in konsole. I wonder where it's picking up what browser to use though... It uses Chrome by default although there is nothing set for the default web browser in systemsettings... If I forcefully put firefox in there it uses it though. Oh well |
22:38.30 | dahud | On a similar note, is there a good vocoder out there? |
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22:38.42 | The_User | where can I find the comic-plasmoid in SVN? |
22:39.41 | cb400f | The_User: try asking in #plasma |
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22:51.43 | reagleBRKLN | Here's an image of the two pages: Why does the one look so much worse? http://reagle.org/joseph/2009/11/cruddy-fonts.png |
22:52.08 | reagleBRKLN | The one is using a nice arial, the other, I don't know. Weird thing, both on the same Wiki, using the same style sheets apparently. |
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22:56.10 | rogersman | cb400f: thanks for the link, im checking it out now...still in heavy development, but a good voice control system would really put kde over the edge! good on 'em! |
22:56.59 | cb400f | rogersman: see the changelog: "Fixed the remaining known issues" :-D |
22:57.21 | cb400f | now that's the kind of optimism I like.. especially for a 0.2 release :-) |
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22:58.02 | rogersman | star trek esque control is on the way...shame we cant use ms barrets voice any more :-p RIP |
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22:59.42 | szal | [23:48:46] <Helper> [Distrowatch] Distribution Release: Mandriva Linux 2010 <<-- prepare for another run on download servers ;) |
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23:08.34 | ArTo | hi |
23:10.14 | ArTo | for some time now when i use my kde desktop sometimes one program "steals" my mouse and i can't do anything outside that program |
23:10.40 | ArTo | so i have to press ctrl+alt+supr and wait 30 seconds to logout |
23:10.43 | ArTo | or restart X server |
23:11.01 | ArTo | does someone know what is it |
23:11.07 | ArTo | should i file a bug? |
23:12.35 | ArTo | it seems this bug is the same https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189416 |
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23:16.32 | troy | ArTo: never seen such a bug myself - are you using kwin? you can try restarting the window manager using something like kwin --restart |
23:16.50 | ArTo | i tried |
23:16.53 | ArTo | yes i'm using kwin |
23:16.54 | troy | ArTo: if your bug matches exactly the one filed - add a comment, or vote it up |
23:17.17 | ArTo | like the bus says, neither killing kwin, killing plasma makes my mouse behave |
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23:17.33 | troy | ArTo: and what happens to your mouse if you kill the program that steals it? (is it always plasma?) |
23:17.51 | ArTo | it goes to some other program |
23:18.05 | ArTo | it's really weird |
23:18.07 | troy | that sounds like an X bug... |
23:18.20 | ArTo | yeah, that's what i'm thinking |
23:18.55 | troy | ArTo: never seen anything like that before though - what X drivers are you using? |
23:19.08 | ArTo | it seems everybody in that bug is using nvidia binary driver |
23:19.09 | ArTo | me too |
23:19.56 | troy | ArTo: and, as a troubleshooting mechanism, you could perhaps try running KDE with a different window manager and see if it's reproduceable; or for that matter, see if the same bug happens in another desktop environment (if you have these things installed, that is...) |
23:20.13 | troy | ArTo: that would help eliminate certain programs as being possible culprits... |
23:20.53 | troy | ArTo: if it happened in KDE and Xfce equally, for instance, it'd almost certainly be an X bug, assuming you aren't running the same apps when it happens |
23:21.10 | troy | I mean, it could be something like firefox triggering the bug *shrug* |
23:21.26 | ArTo | i tried metacity in one of the mouse "kidnapping" and it didn't help but i'll try from the beggining |
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23:21.33 | ArTo | perhaps kwin is triggering the bug |
23:22.28 | troy | ArTo: well, if it happened with metacity, it wouldn't be kwin... |
23:22.46 | troy | ArTo: troubleshooting can be a bitch :P |
23:23.17 | TheTrash | What's up with kdeprint? Is the cups config dialog going to make it back into the System Settings app? |
23:23.19 | ArTo | i only tried metacity after the bug happened |
23:24.50 | troy | TheTrash: basically, the original developer that did all the print stuff for kde 2 and kde 3 has move on to other things, and it didn't find a maintainer for KDE 4... |
23:24.53 | ArTo | i think that it's not related to kde because it started to happen suddenly in kde 4.2.2 (which i used for a while) and i think i upgraded some X packages |
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23:25.08 | TheTrash | Hm, that's unfortunate. |
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23:25.47 | troy | ArTo: still, if you're filing bug reports, the more information you can add, the better, even if the bug goes to your distro regarding their X packages :) |
23:25.50 | ArTo | ok |
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23:26.01 | troy | TheTrash: mostly, http://localhost:631 in konq works, but it's non-obvious |
23:26.06 | ArTo | i'll fight with my english and write a nice bug report :P |
23:26.09 | The_User | Any idea why all my KDE-applications ignore the mime-type and only use the file-extension? |
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23:26.22 | troy | ArTo: based on conversations here, your english is fine :) |
23:26.27 | TheTrash | troy: yeah, I noticed that, my distro added an entry to the kmenu for that. |
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23:26.50 | troy | TheTrash: ah, not a bad idea, for discoverability :) |
23:26.51 | TheTrash | Also there's the HP tools suite but it's HP-only and I couldn't see if it supports smb printers. |
23:27.11 | troy | The_User: nope - normally it uses mime magic numbers and such too |
23:27.27 | troy | The_User: make sure you have a package installed called shared_mime_info |
23:27.33 | ArTo | haha, thank you. i just have to think a lot with every sentence |
23:27.50 | The_User | that's a free-desktop-project, right? |
23:27.58 | troy | The_User: yep |
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23:28.59 | The_User | it was already installed |
23:29.01 | troy | TheTrash: there are a number of rough edges in KDE's settings that deal with hardware configuration: Printing, touchpads, wacom tablets, |
23:30.05 | troy | The_User: okay - then I don't know what's happening - on my system, if I take a jpeg image, and remove the extension, KDE still knows it's a jpeg image... |
23:30.25 | The_User | on my kde it says: that's an inode |
23:30.32 | TheTrash | troy: I noticed... though I've only run into the printer thing for now (touchpad is configured as a regular mouse for now and I don't use tablets). |
23:31.05 | troy | The_User: yeah - that's usually an indication that KDE can't find or can't use the shared-mime-info package |
23:31.17 | troy | The_User: that package contains all the mime magic stuff |
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23:31.34 | InforMed | Hi! My kwin window decoration sometimes disappear! Can someone help-me! That is what I get http://pastesite.com/11475 |
23:31.35 | troy | The_User: might be a packaging problem for your distro - what are you using? |
23:31.36 | The_User | but I thik it's a config-problem |
23:31.45 | The_User | It's the same with openSuSE and Archlinux |
23:31.55 | TheTrash | It's too bad, the old cups configurator in KDE 3.x was pretty solid. |
23:32.10 | troy | The_User: are you sharing a user directory between opensuse and arch? |
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23:32.24 | ender2080 | TheTrash - being restored in 4.4 |
23:32.30 | The_User | I used openSuSE and I switched to arch |
23:32.32 | TheTrash | ender2080: ahh, that's great news. |
23:32.36 | troy | ender2080: sweet? who's coding it? |
23:32.57 | TheTrash | Any ETA on that, even if it's an inaccurate one? |
23:33.03 | ender2080 | not sure, its in the feature plan |
23:33.17 | troy | The_User: did you keep your home directory when you switched, or was it a purely clean install? |
23:33.25 | The_User | keep |
23:33.25 | ender2080 | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_TC_Install |
23:33.28 | ender2080 | kdeadmin |
23:33.39 | ender2080 | oops wrong link |
23:33.40 | The_User | but it was the same problem with suse |
23:33.46 | troy | InforMed: try switching window decoration |
23:33.55 | troy | The_User: then there's a good chance it's a config problem, yes |
23:34.12 | InforMed | troy: Allready try that! |
23:34.17 | ender2080 | TheTrash - http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Feature_Plan |
23:34.55 | TheTrash | Thanks |
23:34.58 | troy | The_User: how comfortable are you with the command line? try grepping for the word 'mime' in ~/.kde to see what config file might be causing the problem |
23:35.09 | The_User | I've already tried it |
23:35.11 | The_User | too much |
23:35.13 | TheTrash | February |
23:35.17 | The_User | nearly every config-file has that |
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23:35.25 | The_User | when I just grep in ~/.kde/share/config |
23:35.35 | ArTo | comment posted |
23:35.36 | The_User | I get the filetypesrc |
23:35.58 | troy | The_User: hrmm - try renaming that file to filetypesrc.bak, and restarting KDE |
23:36.09 | ArTo | thanks for your help troy |
23:36.10 | InforMed | What means QPainter::setCompositionMode: Painter not active |
23:36.15 | The_User | well, I think it's just information for konqueror |
23:37.00 | troy | ArTo: no problem - thanks for being a good bug reporter :) |
23:37.00 | The_User | embed-image/png=true |
23:37.00 | The_User | such stuff |
23:37.00 | ArTo | by the way, you are pillars of kde writer don't you? |
23:37.01 | troy | ArTo: long ago, I wrote the "road to kde 4" stuff, if that's what you're thinking of... |
23:37.11 | ArTo | yeah |
23:37.15 | ArTo | i really enjoyed it :) |
23:37.39 | troy | ArTo: thanks :) these days I'm too busy to write much - one article here and there |
23:38.29 | ArTo | i didn't hear of you in a while, glad you keep writing |
23:38.30 | troy | ArTo: heading to a KDE marketing meeting next week - we'll see what results from that - probably a couple of things will be worked on - like, how do we distinguish between KDE the project, and KDE, the community/organization |
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23:39.02 | ArTo | interesting |
23:39.07 | ArTo | kde is shaping really good |
23:39.45 | ArTo | i didn't jump to kde4 until 4.2 but now i am really happy with it (except those annoying bugs, hehe) |
23:39.55 | troy | InforMed: it's debug info from the code - Qt uses something internally called painters which draws stuff to the screen - if the widgets are disappearing, and you're getting that error, then for some reason the QPainter object is getting deleted/failing... |
23:40.16 | troy | InforMed: I'm not a kwin coder, but lmurray might be able to help if he's online |
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23:41.25 | troy | ArTo: well, 4.2 was good enough for slackware, so it must be alright :) |
23:42.03 | ArTo | i'm thinking about report my bug to arch's bugzilla |
23:42.36 | troy | ArTo: sure - link to the KDE bug too :) that way if arch solves it, they can send information upstream |
23:42.46 | ArTo | ok |
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23:43.15 | Necos | hmmmm... i was reading something about akonadi and opensync... i wonder if we'll have a useable opensync plugin for kontact (and it's children) before the holidays |
23:43.18 | The_User | keditfiletype is the program... |
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23:43.53 | troy | Necos: well, next kde release is in january or february, so maybe in trunk/head/whatever it's called these days... |
23:43.54 | Tirili | Hi! |
23:43.56 | The_User | I'll look at the sourcecode |
23:44.04 | The_User | KDE/kdebase/runtime/keditfiletype |
23:44.35 | troy | Tirili: hola |
23:45.00 | troy | anyway, afk for a few, gotta run to my lab to use the printer... |
23:45.03 | Necos | since barry only uses opensync, it's the only thing that holds me back from using kontact 4 :( |
23:46.10 | Necos | kde 4 apps look and feel much snappier than the 3.5.x versions, so kind of a big disappointment |
23:48.50 | The_User | ~/.local/share/mime |
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23:49.55 | Tirili | I want to have a start-icon on my desktop for the program matlab. But it is usually started via console: sh MATLAB/bin/matlab. And doesn't open, if I click on the sh file in dolphin. How can I build such a click-on-starter? |
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23:51.14 | Tirili | Right click and "create new link to application" doesn't work. :( |
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23:52.04 | The_User | yeah! |
23:52.08 | ArTo | reported to arch too |
23:52.10 | The_User | I've removed it: it works :) |
23:52.13 | troy | Tirili: make sure the sh file is set +x (executable) |
23:52.18 | The_User | troy: thank you :) |
23:52.21 | troy | The_User: congrats :) |
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23:53.49 | Tirili | It is set +x for user group and all. |
23:54.11 | troy | hrm - let me check my local behaviour |
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23:54.50 | Necos | i thought this was fairly interesting: http://saschpe.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/gsoc-updates-the-client-agent/ |
23:55.24 | Tirili | When I click on it, a the starter window appears but then it just disappears and nothing started at all. |
23:55.52 | Tirili | I feel like it needs a console for anything. |
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23:57.11 | troy | Tirili: well, I just created a test case here, a two line shell script, and it works as expected when running from dolphin |
23:57.37 | Tirili | What does your script look like? |
23:57.51 | troy | Tirili: if you open MATLAB/bin/matlab in a text editer, is the first line something like #!/usr/bin/bash |
23:58.24 | Necos | i thought the matlab binary wasn't a bash script |
23:58.34 | Tirili | #!/bin/sh |
23:59.07 | troy | Tirili: and /bin/sh exists on your system? (not in some other path someplace?) |
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23:59.40 | Tirili | I can run /bin/sh as user. |
23:59.47 | Tirili | from bash |
23:59.49 | ArTo | my matlab is a script |