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00:13.15jagadeeshfile browser and terminal are starting with ~/Documents
00:13.20jagadeeshis it normal?
00:13.55jagadeeshOR do I need to change something so that ~ be the starting point
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00:17.15PhrkOnLshsystemsettings->about me->paths, jagadeesh
00:18.34jagadeeshPhrkOnLsh: checking it
00:18.41PhrkOnLshset it to ~
00:20.36jagadeeshbut to it seems Documents path is set correctly to ~/Document. is taking this path by default?
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00:22.54PhrkOnLshif you change that to ~, the file browser and terminal will defalt to ~
00:23.23jagadeeshyes you are correct.
00:23.31jagadeeshthanks
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00:29.38sheek-luch2I have a questiion about Dolphin? When I issue smb:/ in the address bar.. Does it look for a workgroups in the network? I have been having trouble with dolphin searching for workgroups.. It kept returning 'Unable to find any workgroups in the local network, this error could be cause by enabled firewall'
00:31.23sheek-luch2I had setup ip tables to allow netbios traffic.. and still dolphin had problems untill I edited smb.conf and change the workgroup to the Samba Server workgroup? In the end, I must make sure that the workgroup exists in smb.conf?
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00:57.41nutwadswhoops!
00:57.41Sjorsalmost
00:57.44PhrkOnLshno u
00:57.59PhrkOnLshwoo, just got kcm_touchpad working in Fedora ^_^
00:58.19Sjorswooo, just got kde to compile after hours and hours of work
00:58.23sheek-luch2PhrkOnLsh: Any anwsers from anyone
00:58.35Sjorsjust after the snow leopard upgrade botched my MAC
00:58.40Sjorsmac* sorry, caps lock
00:58.54PhrkOnLshis watching kdelibs build
00:58.58Sjorstoo
01:00.52sheek-luch2Hmmm, a bug should be reported
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01:21.27SRabbelierIs there any way to detect that kde is done starting?
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01:33.06KWhat4yo
01:33.24KWhat4how do you make the console transparent again
01:35.51KWhat4is there a way to recover missing programs from the menu
01:36.15SjorsKWhat4: @ first question, check konsole settings
01:36.28Sjors@ second, depends on the program, why the items are gone, etc etc
01:37.06KWhat4Sjors: in the settings dont see it, items are gone due to serious crash of kde
01:37.34Sjorsthey should not be gone, should still be saved in your ~, or things other than kde have crashed seriously, to
01:37.35Sjorstoo
01:38.07KWhat4well i keep crashing so i rm -Rvfed .kde and .local
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01:38.41KWhat4made backups, also reinstalled the app for example firefox and still not getting an icon in the menu, where are these files stored in .kde
01:40.40KWhat4Sjors: the only option i have in konsole settings are profile edit and im not seeing transparency in there but i think its under something
01:40.46SjorsKWhat4: they shouldn't be in .kde at all, rather in .local or .config or something
01:40.50Sjorsor in /usr somewhere
01:40.58SjorsKWhat4: it's under background somewhere, afaik
01:41.28KWhat4ahh there it is, you have to edit the color shema
01:41.32KWhat4scheme
01:42.38KWhat4i have noticed a serios bug when dragging items to the panel from the menu if some other app grabs focus the mouse goes dead
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01:47.54SRabbelierok, different question, how can I schedule a program to be run at startup?
01:49.05KWhat4yet another issue, for some reason when i now kick on icons in the menu editor to select a new icon, it no long allows me to select a system icon sub set.
01:49.10KWhat4any ideas on that
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01:52.51PhrkOnLshSRabbelier: system settings-> advanced-> autostart
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01:53.29SRabbelierPhrkOnLsh: I need to do it programatticaly though
01:53.43PhrkOnLshcp $file ~/.kde/Autostart
01:54.04SRabbelierPhrkOnLsh: ah, that works, sweet
01:54.21PhrkOnLshif it's an application... ln -s /usr/share/application/$program.desktop ~/.kde/Autostart
01:55.54SRabbelierPhrkOnLsh: so either a symlink to the actual executable, or a *.desktop file works?
01:56.07PhrkOnLshsymlink to the .desktop
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02:05.42pano'night everyone :-)
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02:06.33barrapontois there anyway to get feedback from microphone?
02:07.35maazuthat is a very soundcard specific question
02:07.47maazumore like is there kernel support for that brand of cards...
02:09.11barrapontomaazu: i just meant graphical feedback, to show there is input coming.
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02:10.01maazusomeone from Advanced Linux Sound A? can help you
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02:14.25PhrkOnLshbarraponto: are you using pulseaudio?
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02:18.55barrapontoPhrkOnLsh: no, i'm using alsa.
02:19.09PhrkOnLshoi, then idk. pulse has pavumeter.
02:19.46maazubarraponto: then you have alsa-dev package installed, yes?
02:20.40maazubarraponto: or even better, there is alsa-utils package that will be of interest to you!
02:21.11maazualsamixer
02:21.13barrapontomaazu: got alsa-utils, for sure. don't know about alsa-dev...
02:21.44maazuwell, you need alsa-dev for the developmental header files; how else are you gonna #include <alsa.h>?
02:22.04barrapontomaazu: i know alsamixer...
02:22.26PhrkOnLshwhy would he be doing any #including?
02:22.26barrapontomaazu: include alsa.h? i guess i don't need to compile anything...
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02:23.05maazubarraponto: your not gonna write a KDE interface for showing microphone and it's sound levels?
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02:23.28barrapontomaazu: oh, i would love to, if only i could develop c++
02:24.04maazuit would be nice for someone to write one... *sigh*
02:24.21barrapontomaazu: i was just asking to see whether there is any program or plasmoid.
02:24.23PhrkOnLshmaazu SHOULD! :-D
02:24.36maazunah, i'm not familiar with alsa
02:25.21barrapontomaazu: could i solve it with pyqt? i can develop python, and it'd be fun to give back something useful to the kde community.
02:25.42PhrkOnLshprobably
02:25.44maazui am not sure
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02:26.09PhrkOnLshtechbase.kde.org <-- all the info you'd ever need
02:26.21PhrkOnLshthere may also be some stuff in the kdeexamples svn module, now, too... idk
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02:27.09barrapontothe point is: my system, for reasons idk, shows two input sources and two 'capture' inputs.
02:28.01barrapontoi guess it is because i've got both a builtin webcam microphone and a microphone ps/2 jack
02:28.22barrapontobut idk why are there two source inputs. i recall one of them don't work.
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02:28.52barrapontoguessing my way out of this sucks. i did it once, and it took my afternoon
02:29.18barrapontospecially because i had to test it either with skype (test call feedback) or audacity (record, then play).
02:29.56barrapontoand now i'm running kde, i didn't want to install audacity at all...
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03:00.40maazubye all
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03:42.36Raleskgraphicssystem native is ridiculously slow on newer X11 (both 1.6.4 and 1.7.0, both with intel and ati), and there seem to be some software that can't use raster (kwin, plasma-desktop come to my mind) -- can ge expect any of them to switch to raster anytime soon?
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03:44.33lmurrayRaster cannot be used with KWin as it requires X11 communication
03:44.53lmurrayAnd I thought Plasma does use raster...
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03:45.15lmurrayI've heard lots of reports that along the lines of "Plasma ZUI is so fast with raster!"
03:45.34Ralesklmurray → I just tried, it displays some wonky \ \ \ \ stuff instead of the panel with raster here.
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03:46.09lmurrayThen that's a Qt/driver bug
03:46.26lmurrayHas to be Qt as raster does everything in CPU ^_^;
03:47.07Raleskodd as it is, it works on my intel, does wonky stuff on my ati.
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03:48.33Raleskboth plasma and kwin are in kdebase-workspace, right?
03:48.38coolhow to map custom hotkeys? for example, I have couple extra keys on my keyboard for music,calculator,internet etc. Using KDE 4.3
03:48.39lmurrayYes
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03:48.57Raleskgonna compare my package versions... the two machines share the same package sources, it would be weird if they differ....
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03:49.43Raleskokay, it's weird :)))
03:49.50Raleskthey do differ, what the heck :)
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04:05.50Ralesklmurray → I'm afraid plasma's still doing it, but now it also even starts with raster so it's completely unusable
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04:31.31Raleskalso, what's with all the linking and building in the `make install` part?  it was usually like this even in the kde3 days and I never understood the reason for it.
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04:51.59Ralesklmurray → heh... okay, restarted plasma-desktop and now it works, I just wonder why it doesn't when it's automatically started.  grrr.
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04:56.51lmurrayRalesk, things always fix themselves the moment you complain about it
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04:58.05Guest60385que onda
04:58.08Guest60385ded
04:58.16Guest60385como estan
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04:59.59Ralesklmurray → oh, how well I know that! :D
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05:03.20YaderVgood evening
05:03.46YaderVdoes anybody have idea, how to enable the subtitules in kaffeine?
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05:04.07YaderVI'm talkin about .srt
05:04.10Raleskkrunner and for example the terminal applet's popup still take years to appear though.  definitely slower than before
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07:02.47r00t_ninjaHas anyone got a workaround for this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=187224
07:02.49r00t_ninja?
07:03.32comawhitecan't check
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07:22.18PhrkOnLshthomasj: ORLY?
07:22.25PhrkOnLshI think a kline would be cool
07:24.53PhrkOnLshlol #freenode already taking care of it :-) best oppers around.
07:24.56thomasjPhrkOnLsh, i banned him in #fedora right before he spammed in here.
07:25.06thomasjyep :)
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07:31.08axtrozhello people, i've just compiled kde from SVN and i have no icons at all. Running kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental didn't work either. any ideas what is the cause of this?
07:34.20thiago_homedid you install oxygen too?
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07:39.25axtrozisn't that a part of kdesupport ?
07:40.25axtrozhmm, now that you've mentioned it, i see that installing kdesupport is not installing the oxygen-icons
07:41.22axtrozi guess the icons aren't installed, there is no oxygen icon set under appearance in systemsettings, will install them and check again
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07:42.39axtrozthey showed up... that's strange
07:42.59axtrozbefore installing the oxygen-icons even apps that have nothing to do with KDE had no icons visible
07:43.06axtroznow almost all is well
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07:44.59axtrozyep.. everything is ok now... thanks for the hint :)
07:45.23axtrozbut this makes me wonder... why installing kdesupport doesn't install oxygen-icons like before?
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07:47.30thiago_homeBeteNoire: system settings, keyboard
07:48.04BeteNoiredid you try to set something higher than 50?
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07:54.21thiago_home50 characters per second repetition?
07:54.57thiago_homeno
07:55.10thiago_homethere must be both a configuration file and an Xlib call
07:55.13thiago_hometry to find them and use them
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07:57.10BeteNoirethiago_home: doesnt look like 50 per sec, but it's max value you can set via systemsettings
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07:58.46nicolasHi. I've got a weird bug in akregator. I have unread posts (I see their titles in the taskbar when they are downloaded and they are counted as unread) but they do not appear in the main akregator interface. Any idea ?
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08:44.02pinotreexide: stop spamming
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08:52.33srednawith kde 4, how do i configure a printer?
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08:53.27sredna?
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08:54.36muep_sredna: maybe you could just use cups to do it?
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08:54.58srednamuep: through a browser?
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08:55.18muep_sredna: maybe
08:55.22soa2iiHi there. I have the nepomuk/strigi stuff enabled in kde 4.3.2 on gentoo. The file indexer seems to slow down my system significantly... but until now I didn't realized its advanages... what does nepomuk really do for me?
08:55.36muep_sredna: many GNU/Linux distributions also provide you with some other tools to configure it
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08:55.50srednamuep: such as?
08:56.21muep_sredna: I think there's a tool called system-config-printer in Fedora
08:56.54muep_sredna: you should consult your distro's documentation on how to configure the printers
08:57.26muep_KDE apps will probably then use whatever cups provides
08:57.57srednasugh
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08:58.11srednait is NOT as easy as under kde 3
08:58.36muep_it's just as easy if you use the operating system's tools for it
08:58.43srednain gereral, my experience is that printing is a noop with this setup
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09:03.07axtrozsredna: i can't remember exactly which part of kde4 it was, but when compiling it there was a cmake message that KDE4's printers module depends on system-config-printer and some python bindings to build it. Perhaps your KDE is built without that module?
09:03.35srednai have a module, but it is not friendly
09:04.29axtrozoh, i see... I use CUPS and hence never build KDE's module...
09:05.03srednamy printer is a hp dj 5550, connected with usb, and the module says serial: TODO when i select "usb serial #1" which i assume is the printer
09:05.44srednacups web interface lets me add it, but i probably need to be the member of some group, or sometthing. (i'm using arch linux)
09:05.53srednagives up printing for 2009
09:06.06srednai have a pen and a paper :-)
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09:06.21srednaso much for modern computing...
09:07.13axtrozso much for google... people really need to learn to RTFM...
09:07.18axtrozis away...
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09:13.47ocean_hello any one for chat
09:15.05annewhi ocean
09:15.13annewthere's always someone around :-)
09:17.55ocean_free ?
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09:23.03annewdo you have a problem?
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10:13.12SphinxHello, I have some troubles in KDE with too slow starting and I think that somrething is wrong during the start. I am not sure how to find some logs ... Could anyone give some hint or link to understand KDE architecture?
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10:15.41srednai got some time on my hand, so i managed to add a printer using cups webinterface (after loading required kernel modules). in some point in the future, maybe hal and solid could cooperate to make this a more pleasant experience???
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10:38.34partxhi all, im running kde 4.3 and cannot find a possibility to add a widget or a global shortcut to show my desktop, is there a way?
10:39.16muep_partx: make sure your widgets aren't locked
10:39.35partxok done
10:41.09muep_you should be able to add widgets from the right-click menu of the desktop
10:41.28muep_or via the cashew in the upper right of the display
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10:42.57partxthank you, but i think you missunderstand me, i know how to add widgets, but i am searching for a widget or a possibility making a shortcut to show my desktop
10:44.02muep_afaik there's a show desktop widget included
10:44.28muep_at least there's a "Show the plasma dashboard" widget
10:44.52partxhow is it named?
10:44.58partxah ok
10:45.31muep_but I think there's also one that just minimizes all the windows
10:47.14partxlol this widget  "Show the plasma dashboard" i cant find in my widgets at all
10:47.35partxmaybe cause i have running kdemod4 from archlinux?
10:50.51partxoh damn, i see i have to add it via paket manager
10:51.04partxextra/kdeplasma-addons-applets-showdashboard 4.3.2-2 (kde kdeplasma-addons) ^^
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10:56.45DiogenesWhi. i gout this nice idea of collecting file locations in a database and taggigng them instead of sorting them into a tree. has anyone an idea how to list files by tags within kde (3.5) by doing an add-on or plug-in?
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11:08.50partxmuep_ this show plasma dashboard shows me only widgets, but not the blank desktop, whats the name of this which minimizes all windows?
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11:10.51muep_my desktop isn't in English so I don't have the exact name here, but I'd guess it's just "show desktop" or something similar
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11:15.44partxtheres no such a widget
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12:24.56pascalis it normal not being able to stream videos over ssh? E.g. dragon with an sftp:// or fish:// url
12:25.15thiago_homeyes
12:25.36pascalwhy? The kio system is so nice
12:25.50pascalphonon?
12:25.53thiago_homekio
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12:26.07thiago_homestreaming over kio is implemented only for a few protocols
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12:27.10pascalthiago_home: So you know if there are there plans for extending the support to sftp or fish?
12:27.58thiago_homeif someone writes it
12:28.04thiago_homedoes the SFTP protocol support streaming?
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12:29.16pascalheh. I suppose thats a sort of plan. I don't know if stfp supports it. But surely fish should
12:29.36thiago_homewhy?
12:29.46thiago_homeI mean, are you sure .fishsrv.pl supports streaming?
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12:31.04pascalI'm not. But it's easy pipeing data through ssh. So I would think it was doable.. Not a multimedia man my self though
12:32.58thiago_homepossible, yes. But you may need to modify the server.
12:35.26pascalI guess I didn't understand the architecture of fish. Should I understand fish as a server-process that is started  via ssh on the remote computer that we talk to? Still talking through a ssh channel
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12:37.50pascalthiago_home: back to the subject. There is no implementation of streaming video from a ssh server in KDE, right?
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12:54.46pascalthiago_home: just found out that totem-player in gnome can stream from sftp. So it should be doable
12:55.42mokolokohow about vlc?
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12:56.48pascalvlc says that it doesn't understand the url
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13:08.52pascalmokoloko and thiago_home : it works with kmplayer, but I guess it's not using the KDE multimedia libraries
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13:16.23ttfhi all..
13:16.31danakilhello :)
13:16.37pinotreemoo
13:16.55danakilhm, is this the right place to find some tips to get QT4.6 on my kubuntu install ?
13:17.08pinotree→ #qt
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13:18.01danakilbut for a KDE trunk install, is this better to compile from git or should I find a safer way (maybe a package or something) ?
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13:20.00pinotreedanakil: well, i guess until qt 4.6.0 is released, to install it from git in a separate prefix
13:22.56danakilwell, I was a little bit worried to compile this beast but I will give it a try...
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13:23.05danakilthks
13:23.11Torchdanakil: compiling qt is really easy
13:23.26annewcan anyone tell me where personal word-lists for spell-checking are kept?
13:23.26danakilok :)
13:23.38pinotreeyes, compiling qt is easy but long :)
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13:28.04tandersonhi, is there a global shortcut or something to switch screens(not desktops). I can't seem to find it
13:28.31tandersonI'm running 4.3.2
13:28.40panopinotree: do you know any "Howto" for compiling Qt ? :-D
13:28.58pinotreelike reading the README?
13:30.09tandersonah, seems to be in settings->keyboard & mouse->global shortcuts->(select kwin)
13:30.12tandersongreat
13:30.20tandersonthanks anyway :-)
13:30.21panopinotree: allright, will do that :-)
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13:53.09paul424Hi how do I restore old kickoff lauccher look and feel from the previous kde 3.0 ? Is there a way of customizing that ?
13:54.11cb400fyou mean kde3 kickoff or kde3 classic menu?
13:54.34cb400f(kde3 kickoff was a suse specific enhancement)
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13:57.35diddlyhi all, kbluetooth (for kde4) seems to be reading my old kdebluetooth files.  My kde3's homedir should be .kde and kde4's is .kde4.3
13:57.42diddlyanyone else seen this?
13:58.36paul424cb400f: I mean probably the classic one as I havent't seen the kde3 kickoff.
13:59.09cb400fright click menu icon -> switch to classic... takes you right back to 1995 :-)
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13:59.57cb400frequires widgets to be unlocked
14:00.30paul424hmm it works .... but the kde 3.5 was better
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14:08.30Arek_FuHello everyone. KDE4 is starting xscreensaver at login, and I can't figure out why it is doing so. $KDEHOME/Autostart is empty... where else should I look?
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14:08.55mks___hello guys
14:09.16mks___how can i set the proxy settings for Amarok in Gnome
14:09.18mks___??
14:09.42paul424cb400f: is there a way of customizing of kickoff luncher 4.0 ?
14:10.14cb400f4.0? .. please don't speak that number
14:10.19paul424themes or whatever ...
14:10.39cb400fchanging the plasma theme affects kickoff
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14:11.00paul424yweah I mean 4.2 exactly ... also I asked about it already but how do I resotre the old show desktiop comand like alt ctr d
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14:11.17gnumdkHello
14:11.23cb400fsystemsettings -> keyboard and mouse -> keyboard shortcuts
14:11.46gnumdkI can't get korganizer reminders to work :( What can i miss?
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14:13.16Boumks___: what about asking in #amarok or #gnome?
14:13.51paul424no theres no show desktop command to assign, but I see there's import export scheme options ...  where can I download those schemes ?
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14:15.04mks___how can i set the proxy settings for Amarok in Gnome?
14:15.37poppleris there anything like Kile in kde4, or such latex graphic utilities ?
14:16.47mks___use lyx
14:16.58N9NUkile is there
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14:17.55SphinxHello, I would like to debug slow KDE start (slower than was few days ago), where can I find starting scripts or logs? I s there some kind of debugging tool?
14:18.07SphinxAh, sorry, not debugging but profiling tool
14:19.09paul424I mean I suppose I need to add an action l;ike "show desktop" at the mouse and keyboard shortcucts  ....
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14:21.12popplerN9NU: really?
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14:21.34popplerN9NU: must be my repositories' fault then
14:21.39N9NUsure....i selected it upon install just yesterday
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14:21.47N9NUits a Mandriva RPM
14:21.57N9NUim sure its available otherwise
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14:22.40popplerN9NU: mmh maybe you're mixing kde3 and 4 applications
14:22.51BouSphinx: try on #kde-devel maybe
14:22.56popplerN9NU: do you have both kde3 and 4 libs installed?
14:23.03N9NUls -lftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/devel/cooker/x86_64/media/contrib/release/kile-2.1-0.b2.2mdv2010.0.x86_64.rpm
14:23.06N9NU4 only
14:23.17N9NU2010 RC2 doesnt come with KDE 3 anymore
14:23.24popplerthanks, I'll try that mks__
14:23.42N9NUyup
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14:24.05engineerdoes krdc support ssh or telnet?
14:24.54N9NURDP VNC
14:24.58thiago_homevnc and rdp only
14:25.06thiago_homeyou don't need krdc for ssh or telnet
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14:28.01engineeri know i dont
14:28.23engineeri dont need krdc for rdp nor vnc either
14:28.42engineerbut it would be good if that was supported
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14:28.58engineerseveral windows side by side
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14:29.04engineerlike mremote on windows does
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14:30.04N9NUif you goto kde-apps.org they have some
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14:30.19paul424also the widget "show desktop" does not memorize its shortcuts between KDE's sessions.
14:30.38engineerok thanks N9NU
14:30.52thiago_homeuse konsole for ssh and telnet
14:31.04N9NUor that too
14:31.32N9NUkdessh would do
14:31.59paul424hey could someone help me ?
14:32.31N9NUi can ry
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14:35.48slacker84anyone running multiple monitors on kde?
14:36.19bitshufflerHi guys. Is it possible to somehow integrate kmail / kgpg / pinentry-qt with kwallet so it simply gets the passphrases for the keys from there instead of buggering me all the time?
14:36.22cb400fslacker84: dual x sessions?
14:36.32slacker84i have twin view at the moment
14:36.42slacker84what is dual x sessions?
14:36.56cb400feach monitor is a separate display
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14:37.33slacker84i have twin view, how do i get a wallpaper to span across both monitors?
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14:44.37Bouslacker84: not sure you can currently, i've not found so far
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14:44.59Bouslacker84: try confirming on #plasma
14:45.11paul424listen I do right click on the "show desktop" widget -> show desktop settings -> and I assign a shortcut, what to do to make the shortcut preserver beetwen sessions ?
14:46.42Half-Leftyes, on the right click of the widget
14:47.03Half-Left"Keyboard Shortcut"
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14:50.30paul424yeah but it does not preserve beetwen sessions , when I log and log out I wiil have that field empty .....
14:51.37SphinxBou: thanks
14:51.58Half-Leftpaul424: Does it do that when you restart Plasma?
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14:52.40paul424YES
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14:52.54slacker84how do i set the color of the border on windows where the buttons are
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14:53.58Half-Leftpaul424: Works fine here, KDE 4.2.1, so I can't reproduce it.
14:54.20Half-Leftslacker84: In the KDE colour settings
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14:55.10Half-Left4.3.1 sorry
14:55.21paul424hehe I have 4.2.4 version :P
14:55.21slacker84Half-Left, yes i have been there i have themed everything color wise but cant find the option to set a color on the border where the buttons are to minimize maximize etc
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14:55.58Half-Leftslacker84: Oh, the actual buttons?
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14:56.42slacker84well the bar on the top there yes
14:57.57Half-LeftYou need the Ozone Window Decoration to do that
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15:10.54[A2K]hello
15:11.01[A2K]is there some desktop search app for kde?
15:11.59cb400fstrigi/nepomuk are very immature.. you can use non-kde apps in kde
15:12.08cb400fand there's kerry.. a kde frontend for beagle
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15:12.57CaliostroHello, all
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15:13.23Half-LeftIt works pretty well in 4.3
15:13.47CaliostroI can't find option in KDE4 to change start path for terminal & dolphin. Who can help me?
15:14.45cb400ftry systemsettings -> about me
15:14.45cb400fdoesn't fully understand this weird xdg stuff
15:14.46CaliostroI don't see there smth like 'Start path'
15:15.03cb400fI think dolphin is supposed to default to the documents path or something
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15:17.52Moult[A2K]: kfind
15:18.22Moult[A2K]: and like cb400f said, if you have strigi enabled, you may also search via krunner or suchlike frontends
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15:22.06nessuno2_Hi! Can I export from kivio to real vector graphic format?
15:22.35Half-LeftDefine "real"
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15:22.42nessuno2_ie. pdf
15:22.56Half-LeftPDF is proprietary
15:22.58nessuno2_I can print to pdf, but I think it compresses the png to this.
15:23.14nessuno2_SVG, or anything else.
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15:24.23Half-Leftyou'll have to ask in #koffice
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15:40.11pinotreedisable it from systemsettings → desktop search?
15:40.29ashagsbI can't start KDE, it's taking 10 minutes to load already, with strigi in state D
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15:58.59shadeslayeris there a way to start a kde app which does NOT follow the system color scheme?
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16:00.50shadeslayeranyone?
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16:30.30icwienerAnyone on KDE 4.3.2 with Qt 4.6b1 who can see if the "tooltip" for KMix is shown?
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16:32.26slacker84i have 2 monitors and on my one monitor when i drag a windows it scrolls and on the other it does not, like there is no g-card drivers installed but there is.
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16:35.56shadeslayericwiener: its shown
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16:36.47icwienershadeslayer: Thanks. Then it's a local problem. :)
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16:41.25shadeslayericwiener: you meant the jumpy kmix icon which is displayed when i launch kmix right?
16:41.45icwienerThe systray thingy.
16:41.53shadeslayericwiener: thats there too
16:42.18icwienerThe tooltip is not shown here on hover and when I click left the KMix app is shown instead of the master slider.
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16:48.00daumhey guys i just updated to kde4 and i'm trying to setup the menu bar, how do i get it so i can move the quick launch(tryint o put it next to the menub utton)
16:48.41cb400funlock widgets -> click on cashew in right side of panel
16:48.59cb400fthat opens panel configuration and you can then move stuff
16:49.25daumcb thanks
16:50.49mikcHi, is it possible to mount internal filesystems from Dolphin?
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16:51.31ChemBroyes, mikc
16:51.50daumcb400f, is there a easy way to add to the 'quicklaunch' different applications(like kmail), i keep clicking add icon but do i need to navigate to the kmail icon or what/
16:53.32mikcChemBro: how...?? Removable media works but I don't see internal media
16:54.17ChemBroi don't know, they are here in my dolphin
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16:54.24daumm
16:54.35daumdoh, crashed kde somehow, cb400f did you respond?
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16:55.00cb400fplasma != kde
16:55.14cb400fwhat's your kde version anyway?
16:55.19daum4.3
16:55.25cb400falt+f2 -> 'plasma-desktop' then
16:55.49daum?
16:55.58mikcChemBro: in the "Places" panel? hum...
16:56.05ChemBroyes
16:56.19mikcDo I have to write an entry in the fstab?
16:56.21cb400fdaum: to restart plasma
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16:56.53daumcb400f, oh yeah i had no problem back in now, trying to figure out how to not have the panel group buttons, add programs to quick start,
16:57.07ChemBroi didn't do it, mikc
16:58.23mikcin fact, I don't see any of these. even the sda1 (/boot) is not shown
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16:58.31ChemBromy ext3 and ntfs partitions are not in fstab, but in places in dolphin (how it should be for me)
16:58.41sahkois there a way to customize the menu in 4.2.4?
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16:59.02sahkowithout installing anything. just using the kde settings
16:59.22cabooseHi everyone.
17:00.01sahkooh theres a menu editor.
17:00.14cabooseI'm a gnome user, and decided to try KDE 4.3.2
17:00.48cabooseThing is, I'm on a netbook, 1024x576 resolution
17:01.05caboosein gnome, I set the font dpi to 70 to maximize my screen usage
17:01.24cabooseIs there any way  in kde to set the dpi lower than 96?
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17:02.36comawhitecaboose: usually done in xorg.conf, but can be done via systemsettings
17:03.06arrummzenI locked my KDE session last night. This morning I woke up and found I had been logged out? WTF is this the default behaviour of KDE? How do I change it?
17:04.00caboosein systemsettings, the only options are 96 and 120
17:05.01shadeslayeris there a way to start a kde app which does NOT follow the system color scheme?
17:05.01cabooseI would like to set it to 70
17:06.19comawhitecaboose: DisplaySize 371 209
17:06.29comawhiteadd that to your xorg.conf in the Monitor section
17:06.40comawhiteand restart xorg.conf
17:06.55comawhiterestart xorg*
17:07.14cabooseMy xorg.conf seems to have disappeared after my latest system update
17:07.47comawhitecaboose: well xorg recently dropped xorg.conf for auto detection
17:08.42comawhiteshadeslayer: why do you want that?
17:09.17comawhiteshadeslayer: there is a way to start a kde app with a different theme via cli
17:09.51comawhite<app> -style=<styles found in systemsettings>
17:10.04shadeslayercomawhite: i like the black theme,but it doesnt fit in well with web pages and documents
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17:10.16shadeslayercomawhite: the osbidian black theme
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17:10.22comawhiteshadeslayer: yeah I know that sucks :(
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17:10.33jaaltoIn konqueror 4.3, how Do I get the "tree view"?
17:10.36comawhitehad that problem in both gnome and kde
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17:10.53shadeslayercomawhite: when i open openoffice,the document background is black,which sucks
17:11.21mikcChemBro: Ok, that was a policy in HAL http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/HAL
17:11.25comawhiteshadeslayer: well there is a way, change the background colour to a lighter colour manually
17:11.41comawhitethat's the only way I can think of
17:11.57comawhiteunless someone else knows
17:12.28shadeslayercomawhite: that command doesnt work...
17:12.39shadeslayeri mean it opens the app in the black theme
17:12.55comawhiteyeah I know that flag doesn't help
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17:13.35shadeslayerwhoops sorry for that
17:13.53shadeslayercomawhite: didnt work :(
17:14.25comawhiteyeah -style= won't help you, I was just saying :P
17:14.30shadeslayer:(
17:14.41cb400fjaalto: ctrl+2
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17:15.26comawhiteshadeslayer: just modify the background colour in the colour scheme if that's the only thing screwing up apps for you
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17:16.25shadeslayercomawhite: ew.. this looks horrible... :P
17:16.34cabooseSo, in xorg 7.4, which apparently is what I have now, is there a way to manually set the DPI, since they did away with xorg.conf
17:16.40jaaltocb400f: Hm, Nothing happend in 4.3.1 konqueror with Ctrl-2
17:16.55cabooseI'd like to use KDS for a while, but I can't stand these huge fonts
17:16.58cabooseKDE*
17:17.10shadeslayerlemme see if i can find something at kde-look.org
17:17.30jaaltocb400f: Can it be activated from some menu?
17:17.46comawhitecaboose: create an xorg.conf by using Xorg -configure (they didn't remove xorg.conf, just removed xorgconfig)
17:18.07cb400fjaalto: view -> view mode -> details
17:18.43PhilRodcaboose: systemsettings -> appearance -> fonts -> force fonts dpi
17:18.44comawhitethen modify your resolutions and change your video driver if any, then add the DisplaySize to the monitor section
17:18.52comawhitePhilRod: yeah he only gets 120 and 96
17:18.57jaaltocb400f: I'm already using it, but it's not a "tree view", where I can expand folders in the same pane
17:19.13comawhitePhilRod: he wants DPI 70
17:19.17cabooseForce fonts dpi gives two options, both are way too large
17:19.21PhilRodcomawhite: ah, missed that bit (came in too late)
17:19.22cabooseYea
17:19.49jaaltocb400f: I mean similar tree views as it was in 3.x konqueror
17:20.25cb400fyou mean the navigation panel? (F9)
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17:20.46cb400fand why don't you just use dolphin.. it's the default file manager for a reason.. that what gets all the love
17:21.11jaaltocb400f: I mean the "windows like" tree view where you could collapse and open directories, like it was in 3.x
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17:21.16caboosemy /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc has "exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -dpi 70"
17:21.40cabooseBut when I start KDE, the fonts are huge, without force dpi set to anything
17:21.59Torchjaalto: like view -> panels -> folders?
17:22.07Torch(out of context, i haven't really been paying attention, sorry)
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17:24.50shadeslayerhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Bespin?content=63928 <<-- looks amazing in the preview
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17:25.49shadeslayeranyone have that?
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17:30.46jaaltoTorch: I can't find that menu. See http://cante.net/~jaalto/tmp/bug/konqueror/menu-view.png
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17:31.30jaaltocb400f: Dolphin is not a file manager. It lacks all that is needed in heavy editing.
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17:32.12sreichuhm. it *is* a file manager.
17:32.18Torchjaalto: the link timeouts
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17:32.34Torchjaalto: if you're looking in konq, this is a dolphin menu i mentioned.
17:32.40derRichardwhat command executes kde4.3 when i klick on the hibernate button in the kmenu? on my system kde locks only the screen but does nothing else. calling s2disk by hand works perfectly
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17:38.17jaaltoTorch: Ah, I wished the konqueror would have the tree view
17:38.49Torchjaalto: hmm?
17:38.58Torchjaalto: it does. window -> load profile -> file management
17:39.20Torchjaalto: at least for me that gets me a classic tree view.
17:39.54shadeslayeranyone use bespin?
17:40.02thiago_homederRichard: it asks HAL to hibernate
17:41.11derRichardthiago_home: and HAL calls s2disk?
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17:42.18jaaltoTorch: Can't find that menu either http://static.zooomr.com/images/8350493_ff92777989_m.jpg
17:42.48jaaltoTorch: http://static.zooomr.com/images/8350530_67b659f38d_m.jpg
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17:44.27cabooseSo, interesting tidbit. I got my DPI problem solved thanks to Ralesk in xorg, but Kwin ignores the DPI override.
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17:46.30xrandrI'm using KDE 4.2.2 on ubuntu 9.04. I can't get sound to work in amarok. It works in Rhythmbox and VLC
17:46.32xrandrany ideas?
17:46.58comawhitexrandr: switch to xine instead of gstreamer?
17:47.39xrandrcomawhite: ok :)
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17:49.34xrandrexcellent, thank you :)
17:50.29comawhitenp
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17:55.12thiago_homederRichard: who knows what HAL does...
17:55.46derRichardhow can i debug this?
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17:56.46thiago_homeask in #hal
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17:58.20daumi'm using kde 4.3 and was wondering how do i make it so if i use the mouse wheel over a inactive window it becomes active?
17:58.43daumnevermind
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18:00.45emyllerany news about the kde sites redesign?
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18:00.53thiago_homethere was a redesign?
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18:01.32emyllerthiago_home: i just saw some new styles in forums and some planet blogs
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18:02.22thiago_homedid you see someone saying that there was a website redesign?
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18:07.34pARAd0X85hi
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18:08.49pARAd0X85I have a problem in typing with KDE, and I don't know it is a bug or not
18:09.33pARAd0X85I modified the file "/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr" that maps keys with character in Xorg
18:09.51pARAd0X85but KDE apps don't detect the changes
18:10.06pARAd0X85only gnome apps detect that (like gedit)
18:10.13pARAd0X85from where comes the problem
18:10.15ChemBrothat's because xorg isn't responsible for that
18:10.30ChemBrohal should do that
18:10.43thiago_homehave you set the keyboard map since you changed the file?
18:10.51pARAd0X85yes
18:10.54thiago_homehow?
18:11.24pARAd0X85using the module of keyboard configuration in KDE
18:11.42pARAd0X85I have french, english and arabic
18:11.48thiago_homeit's reloading the description that is already loaded
18:11.52thiago_homeyou need to force X to reread:
18:12.01thiago_homesetxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0
18:12.18pARAd0X85why in gnome apps it changed directly ?
18:13.35pARAd0X85tried the cmd
18:13.51pARAd0X85didn't change anything
18:14.17pARAd0X85and showed me many errors
18:14.44emyllerthiago_home: no, i'm just wondering if there's actually one.
18:15.50pARAd0X85so, do you know what I should do to get this changes work ? restart the computer ?
18:16.13thiago_homeemyller: the way you asked the question, it looked like the redesign was agreed upon and you just wanted news on it.
18:16.24emylleroh
18:16.28emyllerno, then
18:17.51sreichwould like a kde.org website redesign :)
18:17.53thiago_homepARAd0X85: but check if it worked
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18:19.09pARAd0X85thiago_home, I have checked already
18:19.12pARAd0X85:'(
18:19.24thiago_homerestart X
18:21.14pARAd0X85ok, but before doing that, I want to say that I have another problem,
18:21.17pARAd0X85when I start my system, the Alt key doesn't work unless I kill kglobaccel and re start it
18:21.27pARAd0X85KDE 4.3.1
18:22.48pARAd0X85I am just reporting it here only
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18:27.03pARAd0X85re
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18:27.36pARAd0X85ok, I only need to restart apps to be able to work with the new keybard map
18:28.16pARAd0X85the gnome app worked because it is just launched, even if I launch a new KDE app keyboard map works inside also
18:28.27pARAd0X85thansk guys
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19:00.24ferdnais there any way to remove the desktop menu?
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19:01.41Shirakawasunado you mean the cashew, ferdna?
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19:01.51sreichor the right-click on desktop, menu?
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19:02.35do0obhi
19:02.38do0obany wicd users here?
19:02.48do0obi would like wicd to use kde's notification system if possible
19:02.53do0obfirefox can
19:02.56Shirakawasunathere's a plasmoid available called 'i hate the cashew', ferdna, for removing the cashew.
19:02.59do0obbut only with an extension
19:03.27do0obi like that plasmoid, but i find it strange that its even needed, it should be a config option
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19:04.37ferdnaShirakawasuna, i want to do a secure desktop
19:04.47ferdnano desktop menu or task bar
19:05.21Shirakawasunaferdna: it's easy enough to remove the taskbar, but I have no idea what you mean by 'desktop menu'
19:05.22do0obhi
19:05.33do0obyou know how you can hide menus with ctrl+m in kde apps
19:05.44Shirakawasunayes...
19:05.46do0obcan you make them just autohide and show up my pressing alt?
19:06.27ShirakawasunaI don't know, but you could bind alt to 'hide menus', assuming it's configurable in the hotkeys settings.
19:06.33Shirakawasunawhich is not exactly a good idea, imo
19:06.43Shirakawasuna(alt+<whatev> is a handy combo)
19:07.04do0obi want things like Alt+(F+Q)
19:07.13Shirakawasunahave you changd the network management backend to wicd, do0ob?
19:07.14do0obso i can exit without having to use ctrl+m to show apps
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19:07.21do0obShirakawasuna: oh, how do i do that/
19:07.29do0obis that a global setting?
19:07.34Shirakawasunasystem settings > advanced tab > hardware
19:07.43Shirakawasunait's a bit of a silly place for network settings, imo, but alas...
19:08.24do0obok, but how do i control it?
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19:11.47ferdnaShirakawasuna, like kiosk mode
19:12.03ferdnais kiosk mode available for the latest KDE ?
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19:14.14Shirakawasunadunno, ferdna, but there's something called 'kiosk tool' for which you can grab svn, presumably for KDE 4
19:15.05ferdnaso, it is not installed by default
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19:16.04ferdnaShirakawasuna, do you have url?
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19:17.10Shirakawasunaferdna: I think kiosk mode in kde has usually been controlled by configs.  The kiosk tool has always been extra, iirc.
19:17.16Shirakawasunathe tool just makes it easier
19:17.26Shirakawasunasvn trunk is svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/sysadmin/kiosktool
19:17.51ferdnaShirakawasuna, this is what i found
19:17.52ferdnahttp://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/
19:17.57ferdnawould this be the same?
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19:18.49Shirakawasunayes
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19:19.33Shirakawasunathat site links to kde 3.x source, though
19:19.35Shirakawasunause svn
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19:25.56cabooseHello everyone.
19:26.02ferdnahi
19:26.53cabooseIs there any way to make the fonts in plasma smaller?
19:30.39caboosehttp://xs1144.xs.to/xs1144/09420/snapshot1255.png
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19:30.58cabooseSo as to match the rest of my desktop
19:31.10Half-LeftSet them in the system settings
19:31.41icwienercaboose: What's that craily-colured wallpaper? :D
19:31.47icwiener*crazily
19:32.08cabooseIt's a cropped picture I found on deviantart\
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19:32.42caboosehttp://zain7.deviantart.com/art/kitchen-130558032
19:32.46caboosethat
19:33.30icwienerThanks. :)
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19:34.43cabooseBut yea, is there any way to make the font sizes of my desktop/panel match my application fonts?
19:34.55cabooseIn comparison, they are huge
19:36.32Dhamakasystem settings?
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19:37.01cabooseThat changes everything not plasma related
19:37.13caboosethe dock and desktop fonts remain HUGE
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19:38.13Half-LeftWhatever you set the size of the fonts in the system settings, they take effect in plasma
19:38.22ToreadorVampireHey all - might be a KDE question, might not - is there a 'generic command' for opening a sane editor for a given file?
19:38.37ferdnaShirakawasuna, thanks... compiled and running
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19:38.54Shirakawasunaawesome, ferdna
19:39.15cabooseWell, not for me... aparantly
19:39.20ToreadorVampireEG:  I have an app that wants to open externally linked files - atm it's using a web browser, but ideally I want it to use "whichever app is the default for that file" - eg text files in kate, pdfs in okular etc ...
19:39.38ToreadorVampire... is there some way that KDE provides for that, or is it a "general linux question" instead?
19:39.46cabooseIt's the DPI, not the font size
19:40.01ShirakawasunaToreadorVampire: you mean filetype recognition and such?  Yes, that's standard in KDE and most DEs
19:40.12Shirakawasuna(gnome, xfce, etc)
19:40.14cabooseI have a feeling the font size is the same, but plasma it like 120dpi, and everything else is 70
19:40.30ToreadorVampireShirakawasuna: Right, yeah - now, can I get that from a commandline?
19:40.50ToreadorVampireErm - maybe not explaining myself properly ...
19:41.06Half-Leftcaboose: Then ask your distro channel about it or over ride it in the system settings
19:41.32ToreadorVampireI'm using "Freemind" (a mind mapping app) and it stores links to external files.  The idea is that if I click an external file it fires up an application (or script) to open that file
19:42.23Shirakawasuna'stores links to external files' meaning files on the internet?
19:42.25thiago_homeToreadorVampire: xdg-open
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19:42.52Dhamakacaboose: Are all the fonts set to the same size in font settings?
19:42.52ToreadorVampireShirakawasuna: They could be on the Internet, they could be on the filesystem - in my case I am mostly using links to stuff on my filesystem
19:43.32ToreadorVampirethiago_home: Ah, yes, thanks - that's exactly what I was looking for :)
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19:46.27Rehtohmm the add widgets through GHNS still doesn't work (4.3.2)
19:46.48Rehtoplasmapkg -i in CLI works wonders tho
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19:47.54Half-LeftWorks fine here
19:48.24Half-LeftYou just have to re-open the Add Widgets window
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19:49.46Rehtohmm could be a distro issue
19:49.52Rehto-->
19:50.38Rehtohmm could it be that superkaramba widgets don't
19:50.39cabooseDhamaka: http://xs844.xs.to/xs844/09420/snapshot2676.png
19:50.56Rehtobecause currency converter did install
19:51.13Rehtobut simple rammeter doesn't
19:51.45Rehtoand I do have the superkaramba pkg installed for my distro
19:51.58cabooseI have "forceFontDPI=70" in my ~/.kde4/share/config/kcmfonts
19:52.23caboosebut the 70 dpi doesn't work in plasma apps
19:52.33cabooseonly qt/gtk/whatever else
19:52.40Dhamakaok
19:52.40Half-LeftWhy force it?
19:53.00cabooseBecause I have a small screen, and 96dpi is too big
19:53.15cabooseI like to fit as much text as I can on my itty bitty screen
19:53.22Half-LeftUltimately it's Xorg KDE gets the setting from as I remember
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20:00.32[mors]hey folks
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20:00.48[mors]can this channel be used for programming qustions related to kde ?
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20:02.45do0obhi
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20:02.56do0obhow can i stop my lcd brightness being set to max on startup?
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20:05.19cb400fdo0ob: you can do some things in systemsettings -> advanced -> power management (aka. powerDevil)
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20:13.23do0obcb400f: thanks, that worked, it was using performance by default
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20:18.28kollapsHi. Is there any style for kde4 that uses transparency for the windows background? Sort of like the vista titlebar effect only for the entire window?
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20:19.23do0obkollaps: bespin
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20:19.41do0obkollaps: which graphics card does your system have
20:19.48kollapsdo0ob: 9800GTX+
20:20.02do0obthat'll work fine
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20:20.17BBM_hi all
20:20.40BBM_where are please location of file containing in kde3 commands for power management as they are executed?
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20:20.43BBM_my kde3 is unable to poweroff, suspend or hibernate
20:20.46BBM_but it works pretty nice from terminal
20:20.49BBM_thanks
20:21.00kollapsdo0ob: Translucent windows section (experimental) ?
20:21.05Half-Leftkwin can do translucent title bars but blur was removed from 4.3
20:21.25do0oboh on, why did you remove blur?
20:21.58Half-LeftWasn't stable enough or has issue as I remember
20:22.03Half-Lefthad*
20:22.31kollapsdo0ob: Translucent windows look interesting but the contents are a little unreadable without blur.
20:22.34do0obcan't you keep it and call it "blur (experimental)" in the list?
20:22.52do0obkollaps: maybe you can try bespin with compiz fusion
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20:23.08do0obsince compiz fusion will be doing the blur it might be ok
20:23.09Half-LeftNot because it's been removed
20:23.12kollapsdo0ob: Oh no, why fusion? I prefer kwin.
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20:23.29do0obbecause it has blur
20:23.55kollapsdo0ob: Hmm, I didn't know that. I'll certainly give it a try. Thanks.
20:25.21Half-LeftQt4.6 will have filter effects, so that will be cool.
20:25.45do0obwhen can we expect a nice media player for kde with visualisations which uses mplayer as its backend?
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20:29.33Rehtohmm smplayer doesn't have visualisations?
20:29.38Rehtodo0ob: ?
20:30.42do0obit does?
20:30.59do0obi've been using it as my main media player for a long time but i've yet to see visualisations
20:31.14RehtoI don't know that's why I asked
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20:33.39ShirakawasunaI know of no kde app which uses libvisual.  Amarok 2.0 doesn't have it (1.4 did)
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20:35.26MaikBHey guys and gals.  Hi like to share an observation and find out if this is an local thing or and kde bug.
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20:37.30MaikBIf ones klicks at the kmix volume control in the systems tray, it appears.  If you click it again, it disappears.  All fine.  But now hover over it and turn the mouse wheel up and down.  Then click it and try to make it disappear by clicking it again or clicking at some free space.
20:37.43MaikBFor, it doesn't disappear
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20:38.27MaikBplease try and give me feedback if its the same for you.  I'm on Arch, using kde-4.3.2
20:38.30freeedrich|RMB on kmix gets it away again.
20:38.42freeedrich|it's the same in trunk.
20:38.59freeedrich|feel free to report a bug
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20:40.29MaikBfreeedrich|, thx.  For me it did most of the time, but sometimes it didn't.  So it tinkered around and found out, that it only happens if I adjust the volume via mousewheel for two steps or more
20:41.03freeedrich|yeah, you got a valid bug there :)
20:41.56MaikBfreeedrich|, RMB... Right Mouse Button
20:41.58MaikBahh
20:42.00MaikBLOL
20:42.04MaikBI didn't get it
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20:42.31freeedrich|appearently you did.
20:42.33freeedrich|:)
20:42.40MaikBfreeedrich|, I do a bug report, thx for your help
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20:45.22ShirakawasunaMaikB: send me a link, I'll confirm it
20:45.52MaikBShirakawasuna, k, will do
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20:49.06MaikBmeh, is this the "kmix panel docking" or just "kmix"?
20:49.17MaikBcategory in bugzilla, I mean
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20:52.00alexexis it normal that there is no function to start a webcam session in kopete msn?
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20:52.33MaikBgreat, there one can read.. "KMix Docking Panel - All bugs concerning the behavior KMix Docking Panel (icon,", there it ends.
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20:53.04MaikBfail!!
20:53.29MaikBDoes someone actually look at these dialogs?  This makes two bugs :D
20:54.30MaikBah, setting "no style" in FF helps
20:54.35MaikBa bit
20:54.58alexexwell ask me, i can see my webcam is working under options
20:55.14alexexbut i cant find the point where you can start the webcam conversation :D
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21:01.51ghabitHello. When I'm trying to open some file over the network, or when someone enter link @ irc, kde trying to cache that file into /tmp direcroty. How to switch off it or swith off at least notification of it?
21:01.57ghabitSorry for bad language.
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21:07.56MaikBkmix popup control doesn't disappear: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211022
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21:09.15MaikBShirakawasuna, posted link, see above
21:09.19MaikBShirakawasuna, thx!
21:09.33MaikBfreeedrich|, thx again, gn8 :)
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21:11.09alexexis it possible that webcam support for msn was just removed?
21:13.45freeedrich|alexex: the KDE4 version of kopete doesn't support msn/wlm video yet.
21:14.18alexexhm, too bad freeedrich|, are there any protocols with supported video chat?
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21:14.51alexexand is there some estimated date, for msn video chat support?
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21:14.56DrSlonyHey, any of you using Ktorrent and having trouble with corrupt torrents from isohunt.com? like this one http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/114301489/Kunsten+Ã¥+tenke+negativt?tab=summary
21:15.02alexexi mean, the kde3 msn supported it
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21:15.19freeedrich|alexex: yahoo is supported iirc.
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21:17.50Half-LeftDrSlony: Well done for posting illegal links
21:18.23freeedrich|alexex: there are other msn things being implemented through libmsn first :/
21:18.40DrSlonyHalf-Left: its not an illegal link.
21:19.02Half-LeftOn a illegal site yes
21:19.10DrSlonyNothing illegal about that link.
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21:19.56Half-LeftMost torrent sites are
21:20.10sreichjust because it's a torrent site doesn't make it illegal...
21:20.20sreichit's just what on it that does..
21:20.37sreiche.g. the pirate bay...that isn't all "illegal"
21:20.38freeedrich|sreich: even worse :/ He said links were illegal :/
21:20.43alexexfreeedrich|: what for example?
21:20.46DrSlonynothing illegal about a torrent file at all.
21:20.47sreichfreeedrich|: haha
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21:21.03DrSlonynothing illegal about a knife, an axe, or a pair of scissors.
21:21.08Half-LeftThe point is, it should post it in here
21:21.09sreichDrSlony: yeah, the torrent protocol itself is wonderful.
21:21.17sreichgreat for sharing data..
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21:21.19Half-Leftshouldn't*
21:21.28DrSlonyoff-topic
21:21.29freeedrich|it :/
21:21.38Half-LeftI you know full well what I'm talking about
21:22.16sourcemakerwhy should I make a different between local wallets and remote wallets in kwallet?
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21:24.55do0obHas anyone been watching the gnome-shell videos, i mean that is completely anti-gnome, i mean gnome was supposed to be sleek and simple
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21:28.11freeedrich|alexex: http://tiagosh.wordpress.com/ <- tiago's blog gives a good summary about what is happening with kopete's msn support.
21:31.33Half-Leftsreich: yeah, file sharing is fine, if the files you're share are legally allowed to be shared :)
21:31.44Half-Leftsharing*
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21:33.14alexexfreeedrich|: thanks, the only thing is said about webcam support is from february and is saying its still on todo list :D
21:33.27freeedrich|you got it! :)
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21:39.26sheek-luch2How can I change the default download location in konqueror
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21:39.49thiago_homeI didn't know it had one
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21:40.01xrandrI'm having a problem with multiple desktops in kde....
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21:40.11xrandri set the number of desktops to 5, but can only get to 2
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21:56.47_CitizenKane_I'm running kde 4.3 with Nvidia drivers.  I'm trying to figure out how to enable composite and haven't had much luck.  There anyone that can help?
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21:59.04sheek-luch2I'm download this file *.run, instead of downloading it, it opens the page as a html, all attempts to download it so far has failed....Konqueror does the job, but I can't find anywhere to change the download location or atleast prompt me for a download location
21:59.24sheek-luch2I'm downloading this file *.run with firefox*
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22:00.56Half-Leftsheek-luch2: Right click the link, Save Link as
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22:28.22techousei'm experiencing very ugly fonts in amarok in debian squeeze with gnome http://i34.tinypic.com/2dtyjhs.png
22:28.23techousehow could i turn on anti-aliasing for kde fonts within gnome?
22:28.40techousekde v4.3.1
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22:34.55Half-Lefttechouse: systemsettings
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22:36.10techouseHalf-Left: i'm not sure what you mean; i have no app called "systemsettings" or the like
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22:36.41Half-Leftinstall it then, it's part of kdebase
22:38.06techouseaha
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22:42.20techousethanx!
22:43.39techousethat did it :) to my luck i only had to install systemsettings not the whole kdebase :)
22:44.17Half-LeftYep, they split the module up
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22:44.44daumhey guys i'm on kde 4.3 is there a way to tell a window to keep blinking on when it is sent an URGENT rather than blink a couple of times then just be slightyl white?
22:45.32sreichnot that I know of..
22:45.40techouseHalf-Left: 366 kb instead of 244 mb  :D
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22:45.45sreichanyways..it's a bad interface design to haveit keep nagging you like that...
22:46.32Mamarokdoesn't it stay highlighted in the panel?
22:46.36sreichlook at Mac OSX..it will keep jumping up and down for eternity... I find it annoying..notifications shouldn't *force* you to listen to them
22:46.44sreichMamarok: no, it does, just not stay blkinikg
22:46.50sreichuhm..blinking
22:47.10Mamarokwell, I hope so, blinking would drive me mad
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22:47.13sreichblink a bunch of times, then stay white-ish
22:47.15Half-Lefttechouse: Kdebase is quiet big uncompressed yes.
22:47.22sreichMamarok: precisely my thinking :)
22:47.35Mamarokis already annoyed by Kontact staying highlited all the time
22:48.29sreichMamarok: I think they're used to windows/macos, to want it to be bugging them forever ;)
22:48.39techousesreich: yea, AWN does the same thing as OS X :P it's annoying
22:49.01sreichno idea what AWN is
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22:50.34techousesreich: avant window navigator; the thing that "clones" the osx dock
22:50.37techousein gnome
22:50.44sreichoh.
22:50.45techousedunno if it works for kde
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22:51.52Half-LeftThere should be not reason not for it to work in KDE
22:52.08cb400fit requires compiz doesn't it?
22:52.20Half-LeftIt requires composite
22:52.39Half-Leftwhich is bad :p
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23:42.12axtrozhey fine people
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23:43.21axtrozi have some trouble with compiling k3b from svn.. everything goes well until a stupid message about cannot find -lmp3lame kicks up. MPlayer however compiles against lame fine. It's installed under /opt (yes i have added /opt/lib into /etc/ld.so.conf) on a slackware 13 system. Any ideas how to fix this?
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23:43.56FreakGuardis there any way to get the file okular is showing? [external script]
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23:44.59FreakGuardpinotree, and a specific window?
23:45.25FreakGuardgo via PID?
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23:45.29pinotree/home/pino/files/pdf/attachfile.pdf
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23:45.41FreakGuardkk. thanks ;)
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23:45.51skxI am using knode (KNode Version 0.99.01 Using KDE 4.2.2) and the Polish dictionary does not work in the editor, English one is ok. Which spelling tool is kde using? aspell? ispell?
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23:46.44skxwhat do I need to install to get other languages?
23:47.05skxthey are listed as options (even Hebrew is ;)
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