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01:20.45maazugotta go
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01:20.55Timslinwhat is a phython script engine? A widget can't create the script for the google calender
01:21.23PhrkOnLshTimslin: what distro are you on?
01:21.31TimslinFedora 11 KDE
01:21.49PhrkOnLshone sec.
01:22.07PhrkOnLshI really need to get Kevin_Kofler to include this package as a dependency...
01:22.36PhrkOnLshyum install kdebase-workspace-python-applet
01:23.27Timslinok, it's complete
01:23.58PhrkOnLshTimslin: re-add the widget and it should work
01:24.15Timslinasks for my wallet password but i don't know it
01:26.25TimslinAnyway I can reset the password?
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01:26.55PhrkOnLshTimslin: I don't think so :/
01:27.03PhrkOnLshTimslin: can you guess it?
01:27.19Timslinnope
01:27.24Timslinwhat do i do then?
01:27.28PhrkOnLshrm ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/*
01:27.34PhrkOnLshand fire up kwalletmanager
01:27.38PhrkOnLshto make a new one
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01:29.32TimslinDo i type that in the terminal?
01:29.44PhrkOnLsheither that or krunner (alt-f2)
01:31.54azrael42who does kcall?
01:32.20TimslinPhrkOnLsh, that doesn't do anything
01:32.44PhrkOnLshoh, sorry, check your tray.
01:32.52PhrkOnLshthere should be a wallet there, click it
01:33.40PhrkOnLshazrael42: http://www.basyskom.de/index.pl/kcallpeople
01:34.29Timslini got the password now
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01:35.38jzahi how can I tell pulse audio is running
01:36.08PhrkOnLshjza: ps aux|grep pulse
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01:39.39Timslinwhat widget do i add to see my system temps?
01:41.32PhrkOnLshsystem monitor - temperatures
01:41.53Timslinthat doesn't work, just shows me a chip
01:43.56PhrkOnLshTimslin: do you have lm-sensors installed?
01:44.16Timslinhow do i check?
01:44.29PhrkOnLshrpm -qi |grep lm_sensors
01:44.58Timslin"rpm: no arguments given for query"...
01:45.35Timslinyes i have it installed, "Package lm_sensors-3.1.0-1.fc11.x86_64 already installed and latest version"
01:45.58PhrkOnLshoops, yeah that should be rpm -qi lm_sensors
01:46.03PhrkOnLshthat's odd
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01:47.24Timslinso what do i do?
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01:47.37PhrkOnLshTimslin: please join #fedora-kde
01:47.52sheek-luchTimslin: Did you right click System Monitor - Tempatures
01:48.08Timslinyep
01:48.45sheek-luchTimslin: and check if the sensor was selected? Also follow PhrkOnLsh suggestion
01:49.39TimslinI have nothing to select
01:50.43sheek-luchThere lies the problem, you can checks service config tool, to check if lm-sensors is running
01:51.14sheek-luchsystem-config-services
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02:10.56se7en__how can i set a picture (cover) as icon for a folder. in windows it is done by renaming the *.jpg into folder.jpg
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02:17.27tomdavidsonHello and good night/day to everyone. I have been stuggleing with needed feature in kmail and am would like to sponsore the development of the needed feature. I undestand this is a user channel, can someone discrib the approperate proccess of offering bounties and what not?
02:18.19PhrkOnLshse7en__: if you right click the folder, go to properties, click the folder icon
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02:20.29se7en__thanks that was too easy PhrkOnLsh
02:20.47PhrkOnLshse7en__: just hafta know where to look ;) took me a while to fidn that.
02:20.56PhrkOnLshtomdavidson: #kde-devel
02:21.05PhrkOnLshor #kdepim alternately
02:21.35tomdavidsonok, ill hit the devs, i was wondering if the foundation has a formal proccess or something... thanks
02:22.05PhrkOnLshtomdavidson: i'm not 100% what the deal with sponsored development is, sorry
02:22.25tomdavidsonnp. someone on #kde-devel will :)
02:22.30PhrkOnLshexactly :)
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03:30.08_Steve_hmm, should gwenview have zero plugins?
03:33.02PhrkOnLsh_Steve_: only if you don't have kipi plugins installed.
03:33.06PhrkOnLshwhat distro are you on?
03:33.49_Steve_freebsd
03:34.11_Steve_although i suppose technically the right answer is that you've made an incorrect assumption... ;)
03:34.20_Steve_but anyway...
03:34.23PhrkOnLshthis is true
03:34.38PhrkOnLshYou'll need to install whatever package provides kipi plugins
03:34.47PhrkOnLshif... you guys have packages, anyways
03:34.49_Steve_thanks
03:34.55PhrkOnLshdoesn't know a thing about freebsd
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03:35.30_Steve_that helps actually
03:35.35_Steve_i found kipi plugins...
03:37.11inaethI have to say, the last time I used KDE 4 was in version 4.1.3. 4.3.1 is much, much better. Thanks to the devs!
03:38.12PhrkOnLsh4.3.1 rules :)
03:38.23inaethHowever, I'm running into one irritating issue. When I set the transparency of a window, then switch desktops, when I come back, the window is reset to 50% transparency. Is there an option I'm overlooking?
03:39.18inaethwhile Kwin doesn't have all the options that CF does, I do have to say that what it does have, it performs with better efficiency than CF.
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04:08.31OrvI'm try to compile konversation 1.2 and am getting the following error.  Any ideas?  konversation-1.2-rc1/src/viewer/ircview.h:38: Error: Undefined interface
04:08.35OrvThanks.
04:09.49PhrkOnLshOrv: #kde-devel
04:09.59OrvYeah, I was just thinking that. Thanks.
04:10.02PhrkOnLshOrv: or even #konversation
04:10.09OrvDoh...  :-)
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05:02.29mshooshtariI need help with knetworkmanager, I need to change the policy regarding the default gateway with vpn connections. I don't see any options in the GUI.
05:03.32mshooshtariI found the configuration files in my home directory. I don
05:03.41mshooshtaridon't know what to do, and documentation is limited.
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05:16.28PhrkOnLshhow does one get video or voice chat working in kopete?
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05:24.03mshooshtariPlease is there anybody there that can help me? If somebody can just point me to documentation on configuring the uuid named connection files for networkmanager.
05:24.15mshooshtariI can figure things out, I just don't know where to start.
05:24.26thiago_homeask in your distro channel or in NM's channel
05:24.29thiago_homewe can't help you
05:24.44thiago_homeNM is not KDE software
05:25.51mshooshtariknetworkmanager is a wrapper for the gnome networkmanager?
05:26.03thiago_homeyes and no
05:26.13thiago_homeit's a wrapper for the desktop-neutral networkmanager
05:26.22mshooshtarioh
05:26.29mshooshtariI'll research that one I guess
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05:27.40mshooshtarilooks like maybe the fedora project handles that one.
05:28.22PhrkOnLshnot imo
05:28.27mshooshtariThe gnome implementation has a checkbox along the lines of "use this connection only for it's subnet"
05:28.45PhrkOnLshoh Red Hat does, so yeah..
05:28.48mshooshtariI'm sure it can be done, I'd just have to do it manually.
05:28.53PhrkOnLshneeds to just go to sleep :)
05:29.08mshooshtariI'm a OpenSuse person myself, so I prefer KDE
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05:29.23PhrkOnLshis a Fedora person and prefers KDE
05:29.30PhrkOnLshFedora-KDE is pretty dang good :)
05:29.32PhrkOnLshbrb
05:30.35mshooshtariI just tried, imho to be a big joke, that's the Sabayon linux.
05:31.03AliTarihiHi. How can I specify a d-bus command in Input Actions? What are "remote object" "remote application" ?
05:31.30mshooshtariIt's not put togeather well, and the release for about 20% of users with intel video or others isn't working. I know RTFM is implied, but when person after person comes in for help for the same problem, eventually you have to look at yourself and say.. hey did we miss something here.
05:31.56mshooshtariSo, again in my opinion Sabayon is a half baked wrapper for gentoo
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05:33.55thiago_homeAliTarihi: it's the name of the application you want to send the command to, and the object in that applicatoin
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05:46.17callkalpaI use KDevelop and when I try to debug it says "/bin/sh -c libtool gdb /home/kalpa/pqrs/debug/./src/pqrs --interpreter=mi2 -quiet
05:46.18callkalpa(gdb) Process exited"
05:46.25callkalpaHow can I solve this
05:46.45thiago_homeask in #kdevelop
05:46.46callkalpaI'm in F11 and GNOME. But I have installed kdebase
05:46.57callkalpathiago_home, ok thanks
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06:07.19Marquelmorning. is there a xml editor for kde4?
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06:11.57thiago_homekate
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06:12.40Marquelthiago_home: i thought more in the ways of kxmleditor - which is not for kde4 :/
06:12.55thiago_homenever heard of it
06:13.23Marquelhttp://kxmleditor.sourceforge.net
06:14.05callkalpathiago_home, I asked from kdevelop, there's a lot there but none seems answering
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06:15.13callkalpaAnyone using KDevelop here ?
06:15.25Marquelcallkalpa: me
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06:18.58louisAll my KDE 4.3 i cons shot to the left of my bottom panel and they will not allow me to drag em back right it just came out of no where any solutions or workarounds?
06:19.25louisany help would be overly appreciated
06:19.47muep_louis: try adding a panel spacer there
06:19.52thiago_homeor the taskbar
06:20.11louisyeah I thought about that it just sends it to far left to
06:20.41louisthe only thing those icons and my spacers won't go past is the kickoff launcher icon lol
06:20.54muep_kickoff?
06:21.09muep_ahh, the main menu thing
06:21.39louisKickoff app launcher = window's Start button
06:21.48thiago_homethe K menu
06:21.49PhrkOnLshdoes anyone here have a launchpad account?
06:22.09PhrkOnLshcould someone tell me this person's email address https://launchpad.net/~miha-cancula
06:22.16louisor actually  Win Start button < Kmenu
06:22.25PhrkOnLshit says I have to log in to see it but I don't have a launchpad account
06:22.37PhrkOnLsh(nor do I really want one ;)
06:22.43Marqueland one more: i have two entries of kcalc (one presumably kde-3.5, one kde-4) in my kicker menu. kcalc-3.5 has been removed, now how do i get rid of the second entry?
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06:22.56callkalpaMarquel, I tried to debug a C source and I get an error
06:23.28Marquelcallkalpa: what error?
06:24.01callkalpaMarquel, /bin/sh -c libtool gdb /home/kalpa/pqrs/debug/./src/pqrs --interpreter=mi2 -quiet
06:24.25callkalpa(gdb) Process exited
06:24.52PhrkOnLshcallkalpa: run that command from a terminal but omit -quiet
06:24.59PhrkOnLshie
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06:25.06PhrkOnLsh<PROTECTED>
06:25.34callkalpachecking.....
06:26.04callkalpaIt says "libtool: error: you must specify a MODE."
06:26.09callkalpaPhrkOnLsh, ^^
06:26.15callkalpaMarquel, ^^
06:26.47Marquelcallkalpa: that's not strictly related to kdevelop ;)
06:27.57callkalpaMarquel, yeah seems that there's something wrong with libtool
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06:28.26Marquelcallkalpa: are you sure you need to run libtool?
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06:30.00callkalpaMarquel, I'm not sure. I didn't change any settings and I just ran Degub start
06:30.11callkalpaMarquel, Are there any other methods to debug?
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06:30.41Marquelcallkalpa: unless you are developing a library i don't think you need libtool. so try to run that command in a terminal and omit libtool....
06:31.32thiago_homelibtool is necessary if you're linking to a library you haven't installed yet
06:31.58Marquelthiago_home: k, didn't know that...
06:32.19thiago_homelibtool relinks the app in that case
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06:35.58callkalpaMarquel, checking .....
06:36.34deusrhi
06:36.37deusrsomeone uses the webcam with kopete?
06:38.14PhrkOnLshdeusr: i've been trying to figure out how for a while now :/
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06:38.37callkalpaMarquel, yeah it worked thanks a lot
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06:39.17Marquelcallkalpa: aside from that: >libtool --help tells a lot about the "mode error" you had before.
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06:40.16callkalpaMarquel, Ok thanks. I'll check
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06:56.04louisOkay what displays your open programs on the bar? Is it a widget that can just be added back?
06:56.16muep_yes
06:56.36PhrkOnLsh"task manager" is the name of said widget
06:59.00AliTarihiI have a problem: When I set a shortcut (Meta+S) for "Focus Searchbar" in Konqueror, it is not saved and I have to set it next time
06:59.06callkalpaMarquel, replacing "libtool" in Project -> Project Properties -> Debugger -> Debugging Shell to "libtool --mode=execute" did the trick
06:59.11callkalpathanks
07:01.16sheek-luchlouis: on the panel?
07:01.46sheek-luchlouis: 'task manager'
07:03.10louisyeah is that a 'widget' or is it integrated?
07:03.21louiskk
07:03.35louisgonna tr7y that as a solution first
07:03.49sheek-luchlouis: a widget
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07:05.53louisokay that missed the case of the overrunning widgets and the missing taskbar
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07:07.01louisAre there any variations of this? like I saw screenshots of win 7 and the iconized tasks has an appeal especially if your like me running like 15 apps simultaneously
07:07.04sheek-luchlouis: I had accidently deleted the panel, so I had to re-add everything, but in the widget Dialog, has everything
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07:07.33sheek-luchlouis: those a themes, check out kde-look.org
07:07.57sheek-luchlouis: and information about each widget
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08:13.11linopolusHow can I tell KDE(4.4svn) that I want to use notify-osd instead of knotify?
08:14.28annmanotify-osd?
08:14.57linopolusa notification daemon
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08:16.16annmaso can't it offer you the choice to replace knotify?
08:17.17annmait's an Ubuntu thing
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08:17.25annmayou'd better ask Ubuntu channel
08:17.30annmaor google
08:17.43thiago_homeI don't think you can
08:17.52thiago_homeknotify is much more powerful
08:17.56thiago_homeit's also incompatible
08:18.20PhrkOnLshI don't think you can, either.. KNotify stuff is its own class in kdelibs.. it'd have to be some nasty hack to make it work
08:18.31PhrkOnLshlike kgtk ^_^
08:19.05annmaI thought this Ubuntu thing could work for some KDE progs
08:19.47linopolusit's by ubuntu, but works great on my arch linux pc(without kde)
08:19.59annmaso use it without kde
08:20.12linopolusi want to use both ^^
08:20.17annmayou can't
08:20.24linopolusk
08:20.31annmait's not the same implementation or even design
08:20.43annmalook at the webpage for it
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08:21.44linopolusthe problem is: I use XMonad as window manager in KDE(http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_KDE ) and it works great but the notifications are going under the other windows after less than a second :(
08:22.08linopolusand cause the notifications are plasma, i can't set them sticky
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08:23.24annmathe only solution is you hack it yourself
08:23.36linopolushm k
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10:28.26PasNoxhello all
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10:32.50mksoftPasNox: Hi
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10:35.15Wizardhello
10:35.54Wizardhttp://wstaw.org/images/free/2009/10/04/cf4ad23a353b6bb916e23f2e2bdb66.png
10:36.10Wizarddoes anybody know how to get rid of this 'negative' effect?
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10:37.54Sho_Wizard: are you on powerpc?
10:38.19Wizardyes
10:38.26Sho_Wizard: it's a known Qt bug
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10:38.34Wizardcrap :D
10:38.34GNU\colossuslol, awkward :D
10:38.51Sho_I thought it was fixed in Qt 4.5, but apparently not if you're on that
10:39.20Wizardyeah, 4.5
10:40.04Sho_Wizard: http://qt.nokia.com/developer/task-tracker/index_html?method=entry&id=196152
10:40.07Sho_it's fixed in 4.5.2
10:40.59WizardSho_: thanks alot :)
10:41.06Sho_yw
10:41.31Wizardmy ubuntu still has 4.5.0..
10:42.17Sho_that's odd, most distros push qt bugfix updates
10:42.22Sho_(current is 4.5.3)
10:42.54TorchWizard: there is at least 4.5.2 for kubuntu. ask on #kubuntu how to get it if you want.
10:43.09WizardTorch: i'm gonna chech unstable repos
10:43.33Wizardbesides, i'm not sure if ppc packages are in sync with x86
10:43.42Sho_right, ppc is unsupported on ubuntu
10:44.11Sho_might want to check out Fedora, they're similar to Kubuntu in terms of being a nice KDE desktop distro with a six-month cycle -- and they still build everything in sync for ppc
10:44.26Sho_has an iBook G4
10:44.38WizardSho_: i know, but i hate rpms :P
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10:44.50Sho_Wizard: seem better than .debs to me, personally
10:44.51HollowPointI have to fix iBook G4's all day :( Can't wait till they're all dead
10:45.04HollowPointI'm with Wizard, debs all the way
10:45.06WizardSho_: yup
10:45.13WizardHollowPoint: no no
10:45.22Wizardi don't want to start a holly war
10:45.22Wizard:P
10:45.33HollowPointlol you won't
10:45.49Sho_Wizard: I used to use Gentoo, and RPMs are more similar in that everything derives from an ebuild-like .spec file. Making a .deb is a lot more complex, from what I can tell.
10:45.58HollowPointfor debs though, I believe, and I could be wrong here, that Debian Lenny supports PPC and has KDE4.3 in the repos somewhere
10:46.20HollowPointSho_: I used to be Gentoo too, then I ran out of time :(
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10:46.38Sho_HollowPoint: I got a bad conscience due to the energy use
10:46.55HollowPointfrom the processor and RAM being whacked up to full all the time?
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10:47.12HollowPointor from leaving it running for 4 days straight to build KDE?
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10:47.31Sho_HollowPoint: Yeah. Central building is more energy-efficient in the end, and on x86_64 -march doesn't exactly make a big difference, if any.
10:47.35Wizardhmm.. seems that i'm gonna try fedora soon :P
10:48.23Sho_Wizard: FWIW, I've had a very good experience with their KDE people since switching to Fedora four weeks back (from Gentoo)
10:48.43Sho_Competent and friendly bunch
10:48.50Wizardactually i don't care about packages
10:48.53Wizard:)
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10:49.17Wizardand as far as i remember i haven't got *any* problems on fedora
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10:51.52Wizardlol, 5 hours est.
10:52.01Wizardso.. see you :D
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10:52.18EvilGuruMy KDE launch menu has some duplicate search items. E.g. "VLC" will return two results with slightly different icons
10:52.45EvilGuruThe same is true of Iceweasel and many others. I've explorered the menu with Kmenuedit and found nothing
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10:53.57muep_EvilGuru: find $HOME/.local/ -name \*.desktop
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10:54.37EvilGurumuep_: Already checked local, nothing there at all
10:55.06muep_EvilGuru: and also checked /usr/share/applications/ for duplicates of the same program?
10:55.14EvilGuruSeems as if the search feature is looking in places I can not explore directly
10:56.38EvilGuruI see one and only one VLC entry when searching
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10:59.35EvilGuruRight, the unwanted cruft is living in /var/lib/menu-xdg/...
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11:28.22scummoshmm lancelot asks me all the time if i really want to start an application xD
11:28.36scummosi'm feeling like on windows vista -- can i disable this? :p
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12:20.02heroidhey guys im having a problem with installing packages in kde 4.3
12:20.11heroidit is only showing me the 3.5 packages
12:20.22thiago_homeKDE doesn't install packages
12:20.27thiago_homethat's your distribution's job
12:20.28heroidand it still looks like kde 4
12:20.33heroidim using kubuntu
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12:21.01heroidso i should ask the kubuntu guys?
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12:54.07irn2Hi all!
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13:07.11db81Hi! Does everyone know a simple program for kde that have abilities to read certain office formats, such as rtf, and can be used for simple text fomatting?
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13:07.52Rasikoffice?
13:07.56annmais KWord too complicated?
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13:08.34Neremorhello!
13:08.36fouDuBassanHi there
13:08.37db81there is anything except KOffice? ;)
13:09.04db81oh.. Is there anything except koffice?
13:09.12GNU\colossususe antiword. from konsole, if you feel like it ;)
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13:09.49nolimitsoyanetwork settings scans but finds no interfaces and everything is greyed out. im using it as a regular user. anything i could do? (4.3.1 on gentoo)
13:09.58fouDuBassanI have a pb with kwallet (the one described http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/8caf058d08e91c97/084d9a72cd72c393?lnk=raot
13:10.31fouDuBassanis there a mean to have my information in decrypting the kwallet.kwl with a command line?
13:11.45NeremorIs there a way to "save the desktop"? I've a large monitor (1920x1080->16:9). I like to play games, but games with good graphics need to use a lower resolution. because I'm using linux, games often crash :D then i have the game resolution still set in kde after the game crashed. That is not a problem, because i can correct these in the system settings, but the alignment of my icons on the desktop afterwards is a problem. I've much programs and
13:11.46Neremortherefore much icons. when they don't fit to the resolution set by the game, they are realigned from top to bottom and left to right. Then i have to realign all icons. Is there a way to make the alignment of my icons permanent, so they don't change, even when they don't fit to the screen?
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13:16.32db81antiword is cool but it cannot open RTF files :( Is there a tool to view RTF?
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13:17.16thiago_homekword
13:18.03cibaer78or "wine write.exe" :)
13:18.24cibaer78(have to get the executable from somewhere)
13:19.07db81yeah, Kword is 102 megabytes to just view RTF file :) ok, is there something like write.exe, or any console tool?
13:19.28thiago_homekword is not 102 MB
13:20.29db81maybe, but to install kword in Gentoo I have to download 102MB :)
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13:22.02cibaer78perhaps "Ted", http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/
13:22.06Enlikdb81: try catdoc; it can work even with less
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13:23.36EnlikAbiword should be fine, too.
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13:24.43db81Enlik: thank you, catdoc is really what i need :)
13:24.54Enliknice :)
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13:26.21fouDuBassanI have a pb with kwallet (same than http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-qt-kde%40lists.debian.org/msg28945.html). Do you know if it is possible to access data in kwallet.kwl other than using kwallet (command line?)?
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14:11.02Mytthin kmail i keep getting invalid certificate for a certificate i did trust forever on
14:11.16Mytthits gettings really annoying
14:13.47cibaerMytth: have this problem, too, would also like to know, whats wrong
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14:21.26Mytthalso can i turn reg filters into sieve scripts
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14:35.48k1lumin4t1is there anyway to build a qt GUI for a bash script?
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14:39.46thiago_homek1lumin4t1: kdialog
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14:45.54k1lumin4t1thiago_home, thanks
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14:53.51rahman_wonders why can't use his nick "rahman" for 2 days
14:57.02Sho_rahman_: because there's someone logged in with that name
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14:58.06rahman_Sho_: no one logged as I can see
14:58.28Sho_rahman_: [16:56] [Whois] rahman is n=rahman@router.uai.ac.id (Rahman Pujianto)
14:59.27rahman_hmm, Konversation doesn't list him in rigth panel
14:59.48Sho_rahman_: uhm ... the right panel only lists the people who are in #kde
15:00.01Sho_rahman_: but there are many other channels on freenode, and tens of thousands of chatters
15:00.14rahman_its my registered name to freenode. Who the heck is he :)
15:00.35Sho_rahman_: if you have registered "rahman", you can kick him out, see /msg nickserv help ghost
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15:03.00rahmanSho_: thanks :D
15:03.07Sho_:)
15:03.12Sho_you're welcome
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15:21.01mogaal_i can't find upstream tarball of kde 2.1 :(
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15:24.55annmawould 2.2 do?
15:25.07annmaor do you specifically need 2.1?
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15:25.28annmamogaal_: ^^
15:26.05rohitjI want to make an application which will read emails that kmail stores. Now, I figured that KMail stores email in mbx format. I want to use python. Is there some library to read kmail emails?
15:26.57annmarohitj: ask in #kontact
15:27.13annmamogaal_: ping
15:27.13mogaal_annma: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.
15:27.15annmahe
15:27.20annmawhat the hell
15:27.41rohitjannma: ok. thanks :)
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15:27.49the_madmanHello everyone.
15:28.01annmamogaal_: why are you there if you don't want help
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15:29.29the_madmanannma: Want to help me once more with the patching process?
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15:30.31the_madmanannma: I'm trying to submit the patch I made for trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kio/kio/global.cpp, but the reviewboard is spitting out: Failure opening '/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kio/kio/global.cpp/global.cpp' '/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kio/kio/global.cpp' is not a directory in filesystem '/svn/mirrors/home/kde/db'
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15:35.19annmahmmm
15:35.36rahmanthe_madman: are you sure you entered the correct path in reviewboard? you need to give the path where you got the "svn diff". Don't write the patched file as path
15:35.58annmayes it's all about the path
15:36.26annmamogaal_: when you tell me if kde 2.2.2 is OK I'll tell you where to get it from
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15:37.45DeecodeuhHow do I edit kde's suspend method?
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15:38.22rahmanhehe he is kinda wierd guy
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15:39.27the_madmanAah, OK. Thanks.
15:39.35the_madmanI was writing the patch as a path...
15:39.51DeecodeuhHow do I edit kde's suspend method?
15:40.42zoraelDoes PowerDevil (or any other power management part of KDE) in 4.3.1 monitor screen dpms somehow? I can't do 'xset dpms force off' (Linux); it instantly wakes. When letting PowerDevil put the screen into standby after n minutes, the screen wakens after a while and restarts the countdown, even with guaranteed no input (mouse disconnected, touchpad turned off, nothing near the keyboard)
15:40.44igorSettings -> Power Management -> Edit Profiles
15:40.49mogaal_annma: Sorry :(, i am taking care of my little cousins :-/.
15:40.56mogaal_annma: for the same! We wrote some time ago. I can't upload some debian package because I don't know the copyright holder of some image. I am looking for official kde FTP but I can find this kde version :-(
15:41.06annmajust remove this stupid comment
15:41.21annmaand answer my question
15:42.05Deecodeuhigor: Right, but how do I edit the command it gives to suspend?
15:42.15annmathe_madman: reviewboard is a bit touchy
15:42.30annmaDeecodeuh: what do you mean by "edit"
15:42.46igorDeecodeuh: what exactly is it that you want to do?
15:43.17Deecodeuhannma: I want to manually define the flags that it uses to suspend, what it's using now makes it so my computer doesn't start back up.
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15:46.05annmaDeecodeuh: in Power Management tab, do you see any problem?
15:47.22Deecodeuhannma: I don't see anything that let's me edit the command it gives to suspend.
15:47.32the_madmanannma: I've noticed. What's the path supposed to be? /home/kde/trunk, or something else?
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15:48.19annmaDeecodeuh: no there is no such option
15:48.48annmaDeecodeuh: I wanted to know if some problems were listed in Capabilities
15:49.28Deecodeuhannma: cpu can not be turned off, and scalaing capability is a no
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15:52.20annmaDeecodeuh: are yousure suspend is supported?
15:52.56annmaDeecodeuh: run
15:52.57annmacat /sys/power/state
15:53.04annmawhat does it return?
15:53.13Deecodeuhannma: I can suspend using this command just fine: /usr/sbin/s2ram --force --vbe_post --vbe_mode
15:53.24annmacat /sys/power/state
15:53.36Deecodeuh[root@UpEarly coda]# cat /sys/power/state
15:53.36Deecodeuhstandby mem disk
15:53.58annmaok
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15:55.02annmaI don't know where you can change this
15:55.58Deecodeuhannma: thank you anyway
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16:00.42annmaDeecodeuh: maybe issue a bug report
16:01.00annmait seems a bug
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16:24.15Hellmark[S10e]Hey, I'm having a problem where plasma-desktop crashes a few seconds after starting.
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16:25.38Hellmark[S10e]starting manually has same results
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16:32.40arkaschas/wayout/layout  :-)
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16:44.42thentheniowhere can I find KDE4 error logs?
16:46.19sreich~/.xsession-errors likely
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17:27.41eadthemkde for win 0.9.6-4  id assume  the regualr mingw compiler mode supports the most packages   and is the new 5.x version
17:27.42eadthemright
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17:40.34Goliath23hi
17:41.03Goliath23does anyone know a good personal backup tool (one that starts automatic backups when I attach a backup medium, like a usb disk)?
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17:41.56freinhardGoliath23: needs to be gui?
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17:42.06freinhards/be/have a/
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17:46.04Goliath23freinhard: not necessarily. I'm thinking of writing a plasmoid for that
17:47.38freinhardGoliath23: i'm using rdiff-backup for quite a while now, back in kde3 days there was keep but i think it hasn't been fully ported yet
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17:56.24Goliath23ah, the plasmoid could use that as a backend maybe..
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17:57.10sreichof course
17:57.44sreichno point in rewriting the backend if there are good existing ones already, provided they fit your needs, naturally.
17:59.08freinhardGoliath23: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/keep/
17:59.50freinhardGoliath23: but it really needs some love.
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18:00.17Goliath23freinhard: it doesn't use rdiff(-backup), right?
18:00.38Goliath23I think I know it back from the kde3 days. but it's not what I have in mind.
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18:01.19freinhardfaemir: keep uses rdiff-backup
18:01.21Goliath23I think more of a very non intrusive plasmoid that sits in a panel or maybe on the desktop and displays an icon or text that shows the age of the last backup
18:02.08Goliath23when the backup media is connected it shall start the backup in the background and maybe even display the progress using the notification system (no idea if that's possible)
18:02.09freinhardfirst have a look at the rdiff-backup man/home page
18:02.26Goliath23yap, I had a glimpse on it.
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18:03.25Timslinhow i do access my phone memory card
18:03.40freinhardTimslin: put it in your cardreader :D
18:03.47thiago_homeor use a USB converter
18:03.53thiago_homethat's what I do with mine
18:04.08freinhardfaster then bluetooth anyways
18:04.27freinhardGoliath23: keep didn't offer all features the cli-tool provides, like browsing the version list of files etc.
18:04.32TimslinIt is plugged in, now what?
18:06.45freinhardGoliath23: besides the progress-bar, rdiff-backup could do it.
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18:07.37freinhardTimslin: get familiar with kde, http://userbase.kde.org/ would be a good starting point.
18:07.59Goliath23freinhard: do you now if rdiff-backup can deal with interrupted actions?
18:08.07freinhardyes
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18:08.58Goliath23Timslin: if it's plugged in, it should appear in your "device notifier" which is a widget that usually sits in your panel. (if you are using kde4?
18:09.13freinhardGoliath23: in case of a interrupted backup, you'll have to run rdiff-backup with --check-destination-dir
18:09.54Goliath23freinhard: any chance to know, that a previous backup was aborted? ... well I guess the widget has to deal with it...
18:10.13Goliath23freinhard: but rdiff-backup looks really nice!
18:10.27freinhardGoliath23: usually you don't have to care about that, since rdiff-backup cleans the backup-destination automatically
18:10.29TimslinGoliath23, yes but it's not appearing there and yes i have that widget too
18:11.21Goliath23Timslin: what kind of device is it again? a phone connected via usb?
18:11.40freinhardGoliath23: if you really start working on it, i vote for a file version browser :)
18:11.46TimslinNo, a memory card connected vias the card reader
18:12.01Goliath23freinhard: exaplin the feature a bit. how could it look?
18:12.26Goliath23Timslin: oh, in that case it's strange, that it doesn't work
18:12.33freinharda filetree on the left. klick on a folder/file, see the versions available on the right
18:12.52Goliath23Timslin: did the card reader work with other cards?
18:13.05Goliath23versions as is date's?
18:13.06TimslinYes and works perfectly fine in Windows
18:13.19Goliath23Timslin: whats the model?
18:13.36Timslinof what?
18:13.40freinhardGoliath23: right, implementing that should be really easy, since rdiff-backup does date-specific hardlinks for any file/directory
18:13.50Goliath23ah
18:13.56Goliath23Timslin: of the card reader
18:14.01Goliath23Timslin: or is it built in?
18:14.27Timslini don't know, it's a 52-in-1 card reader. Installed it mysewlf a while ago
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18:15.39Goliath23Timslin: its a sim-card reader?
18:16.37Timslinsince when do sim card readers come as 52-in-1s?? Forget it, will have tp boot into Windows and do what i have to there
18:17.11Goliath23Timslin: hm. sorry I don't think I can help you here. ... IF general detection of USB sticks and such works, you could maybe google for the card reader and your distribution to find hints...
18:18.17Goliath23all I can say is, that my built in card reader at work works fine in kubuntu 9.04
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18:22.02freinhardhuh, google maps broken in konqueror?
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18:37.43daemoenhey guys
18:38.02daemoenanyone know if there are any developers signed up for quanta+ yet?
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18:43.16mikcIs there a program like fsview (previously in KDE3) for KDE4?
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18:53.38junkDawgiemikc:  fsview exists in KDE4 konqueror.... maybe be a part of the addon/plugins package, but i have it.
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18:55.14khalihi folks
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18:56.08khaliback in the KDE 3.5 days I was using an appley named irkick for my TV remote control; I can't find any equivalent in KDE4, can someone point me in the right direction?
18:56.51thentheniowhere can I find KDE4 error logs?
18:57.01thiago_homethenthenio: ~/.xsession-errors
18:57.18thentheniotkx!
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19:00.30khalijunkDawgie: thanks for the pointer... but apparently my distribution doesn't package this
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19:02.50thenthenioWhen I login a Phonon error message appears for a whine (I can't read it it's too fast) then audio does not work until I run alsaconf. Suggestions?
19:03.26thenthenioSo all times I have to go through alsaconf wizard to have audio working!!!
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19:05.11junkDawgiekhali: search kde-apps.org for kAnyRemote.... another possibility
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19:06.29sheek-luchthenthenio: did check you logs, it might have post them there... also check $HOME/.xsessionserrors
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19:09.40thenthenioSo all times I have to go through alsaconf wizard to have audio working!!!
19:09.58thenthenioSorrY!!!
19:10.21thenthenioin .xsession-errors: QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to PhononWidget "", which already has a layout
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19:25.37mikcjunkDawgie: Which distribution?  I dont see it in gentoo...
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20:11.05zimmskiHi, I'm running kde4 is there a proper client like kpowersave in kde3 which I can put into the systray to switch between power and cpu profiles and suspend to disk/ram?
20:12.05dommepowerdevil as you were told in the other channel :)
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20:40.36canolucasdoes anyone know how to make a plasma applet 20% translucent? its coded in python
20:42.04canolucasand its a terminal that only calls libkonsolepart
20:44.11canolucasif yoy want the code, its here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=108120&id=1&tan=25197312
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21:02.28jamesstanleyHi, I'm running the lenny backport of KDE 4.1 from kde4.debian.net, does anyone know how to make it arrange the desktop icons nicely?
21:03.49canolucasjamesstanley: no idea if you can. you should update to a more stable version.
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21:04.32jamesstanleythat is the newest version available in any repo for lenny
21:04.45sreichuse a different distro then
21:04.53sreich4.1 is very very old
21:05.33sreichconsidering how far kde has improved since then (we released 4.3 a couple months ago)
21:06.34jamesstanleyah, i just found a site offering 4.2.4 repo's for lenny
21:06.38jamesstanleyi'll see about that
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21:07.58sreichjamesstanley: that's still pretty old :P
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21:08.38jamesstanleyi'm normally willing to compile stuff from source, but kde 4 is so vast that i'm not trying that again :)
21:08.40PhrkOnLsh4.2.4 is good
21:09.26sreichyes, but 4.3~ is better :)
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21:12.36hacostai'm experiencing a weird bug, can anyone confirm?
21:12.51hacostawhen i run kate from a console, everything works fine
21:12.58gkiagiajamesstanley: upgrade to debian squeeze. you'll get 4.3.2
21:13.23jamesstanleysqueeze is testing
21:13.34gkiagiaso what?
21:13.37hacostawhen i use the runner and select the kate entry, i get a segfault (only if i select the one with the kate icon)
21:13.38jamesstanleyi've ran testing and unstable systems before
21:13.45jamesstanleythey are exactly that
21:13.55hacostaif i select the action execute kate, it opens just fine
21:14.16hacostaso the problem seems to be a kate.desktop file or somethin
21:14.20gkiagiajamesstanley: testing is not the same as unstable. testing is pretty stable and is good for desktop systems.
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21:15.08gkiagiahacosta: restart kde
21:15.55gkiagiahacosta: it has happened to me before, after upgrading kde. a restart solved it
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21:20.06hacostaok, thanks gkiagia
21:20.22_spm_DragetIs there any way how I can test out geolocation with KDE 4.3.1 ? Like 'query' the service and eventually feeding the dataengines with information - like wifi profiles?
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21:20.54jamesstanleyi'm now on 4.2.4
21:21.26jamesstanleythere is still no obvious option to auto-arrange the icons, and the whole thing seems slower
21:21.56sreichif you have your desktop containment type set to folderview, you can arranget hem
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21:22.00gkiagiajamesstanley: you can set the desktop to be a folderview, by going to the desktop settings
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21:22.14_spm_Dragetjamesstanley: I am not sure if this is 4.2.4 specific, but I can arrange my icons by name, size, etc. in kde 4.3.1
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21:22.21gkiagiasreich was faster :)
21:22.31_spm_DragetI higly recommend+ updating to 4.3 anyways!
21:22.32sreich:)
21:22.34jamesstanleydesktop settings?
21:22.45jamesstanleyright-click->desktop settings?
21:22.51gkiagiayes
21:22.51sreichtry it...
21:23.01jamesstanleytheres no folder view option
21:23.23canolucashe is right. i think thats 4.3 specific
21:23.32sreichaw really :P
21:23.44gkiagiajamesstanley: make sure you have the plasma-widget-folderview package
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21:23.50gkiagiano I think this is 4.2 stuff...
21:23.52jamesstanleyok
21:23.58sreichmumbles about how his kde versions blend together with using trunk
21:24.03sreichyeah, I thought it was too..
21:24.12jamesstanleyit's installing
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21:24.19jamesstanleyno it isn't
21:24.25jamesstanleyit's replacing half of the new kde with the old one
21:24.36gkiagiachecks
21:24.58jamesstanleyhmm
21:25.09jamesstanleyi was mistaken on several counts
21:25.12jamesstanleyignoring everything i just said
21:25.14sreichit's probably becuase you're using some strange repo...
21:25.27jamesstanleyi am indeed using a strange repo
21:25.37gkiagiayeah, I'm pretty sure this package was in 4.2
21:25.52jamesstanleyhmm... i have plasma-widget-folderview from 4.2.4 and desktop settings still has no option
21:26.02gkiagiajamesstanley: I told you, don't use 3rd-party repos, upgrade to debian squeeze :)
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21:26.12jamesstanleywhat worries me is that it might not be an upgrade
21:26.23gkiagiajamesstanley: squeeze packages are official and are more trustworthy
21:26.40gkiagia3rd-party repos are not trusted at all, who knows what they put in there...
21:26.51sreich..love..lots of love..
21:27.11jamesstanleyi am going to upgrade to squeeze
21:27.17jamesstanleyi've had enough stability for one installation anyway
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21:28.00rhodanHow do I change my Jabber nick in Kopete?
21:28.00jamesstanley1654 upgraded, 381 newly installed, 47 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
21:28.08jamesstanleyneed to get 2.6GB of archives
21:28.15jamesstanleyfun :)
21:28.41rhodanjamesstanley: was ist denn da passiert?
21:28.51rhodanUSE="*"?
21:28.58jamesstanleythis is not gentoo
21:29.08jamesstanleythis is upgrading a lenny system to squeeze
21:29.16jamesstanleyand i tend to be fairly liberal in what packages i install
21:29.30rhodanOh, i was in #gentoo.de seconds ago.
21:29.44jamesstanleyha
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21:33.23rhodanIf I change the nickname in my global identity vcard, it gets displayed on WLN but not on jabber.
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21:45.28bobbob1016How can I individually resize my icons I have on my desktop I have with folder view?
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21:53.14sreichyou can't, only globally per containment
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21:54.43bobbob1016sreich, Damn, ok.  Is that in the plans, or no?
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22:03.27otayHopefully not too stupid of a question but I'm having trouble changing the theme. I went to System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Theme Details -> I clicked the dropdown and selected a different theme but the "Apply" button is grayed out.
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22:04.40cardamonHello.
22:04.47otayI chose a different theme and logged out; logged back in and the theme is still the same
22:06.32cardamonIs there a way to set how the wallpaper slideshow effect changes wallpapers? The fade in/out is kind of unecessarily intense for my processor, especially since I set the change frequency to every six minutes.
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22:08.48draugdelotay: right click on desktop -> desktop settings
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22:08.56draugdelotay: there you can change the theme
22:09.49otayok..
22:09.52otaytries it
22:10.50otayYes! It worked. Thank you muchly :)
22:11.38otaycardamon how do you enable wallpaper slideshow? That was going to be the next thing I wanted to try
22:12.03otayoh, I see it
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22:12.15otaysame place I'm looking at.. cool
22:12.42cardamonYeah.
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22:13.06cardamonBut that fade effect they use to change is a bit of a drain.
22:14.59otayhmm perhaps there is a tweak for that somewhere.
22:15.12otaylooking
22:21.06otaycardamon, I don't see a transition affect, the image just changes (for me)
22:21.36otayoh, I see it
22:22.08otayIt's quick on my computer though, so it's not very noticable imo
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22:22.29otaytry small images and see if that makes a difference..?
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22:40.30WinterFlamecan somebody please explain to me why kaddressbook doesn't give a shit about the date format I chose in my kde settings
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22:44.27pugachevcobrahow do I install (or display) the network management 'plasmoid' (on the tray)? kubuntu 9.04
22:44.33otayBecause it's a robot
22:44.51otayrobots making robots
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23:30.35sharp15is there a timeline for when kde4 kdesu will support sudo as a backend?
23:31.12PhrkOnLshsharp15: ubuntu ships kdesudo, it's already created... probably can find it in launchpad or kde-apps
23:32.04sharp15i would really prefer it was in the actual program, so i'll just have to wait.
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