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| 00:06.14 | isilzha | hi. some kde 4.x apps are crashing once they get the focus. f.e. i can open konsole which runs nicely until i hover it with the mouse (sloppy focus). i'm using fvwm as a window-manager if that should matter. i was suspecting scim of causing trouble too but starting as "QT_IM_MODULE=simple konsole" didn't change the effect. the messages i see on the console (xterm) are these: "Undecodable sequence: \001b(hex)[?1034h" followed by "KCrash: Appl |
| 00:06.14 | isilzha | ication 'konsole' crashing..." and finally "sock_file=/home/isilzha/.kde4/socket-1*10100*10/kdeinit4__0" |
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| 00:10.00 | *** kick/#kde [anarchyin1600!i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq] by KB1JWQ (You should know better.) |
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| 00:10.09 | PhrkOnLsh | thank you |
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| 00:10.25 | utku | thanks a lot |
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| 00:10.50 | KB1JWQ | No worries. Ping me in #freenode or PM if it recurs. |
| 00:11.17 | dimm0k | oh, i see |
| 00:12.04 | PhrkOnLsh | idk why we don't have an anti flood bot in here :/ |
| 00:12.11 | utku | the text in serbian btw :) |
| 00:15.11 | pinotree | bah, i cannot distract 5 minutes... thanks KB1JWQ |
| 00:16.04 | PhrkOnLsh | pinotree: are you an op? |
| 00:16.08 | pinotree | y |
| 00:16.26 | PhrkOnLsh | pinotree: okay, was unsure of whom I could ping. Will keep that in mind |
| 00:17.26 | KB1JWQ | pinotree: No worries, that's why staff is on the access list. I just kicked him, so you may have to deal with it when he comes back. :) |
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| 00:36.02 | mountainjew | KDE 4 is becoming too reliable, i'm getting bored with nothing to fix =P |
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| 00:44.03 | Arpman | mountainjew: If your bored you can help me try to fix an app install... |
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| 01:11.24 | Erthe | Is it permitted to look for a solution to a strange problem I'm having with the plasma Alt-F2 run command and konqueror? |
| 01:12.26 | Erthe | (Or to ask about how to solve it, rather) |
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| 01:13.58 | Alumin | seems like that'd be on-topic to me |
| 01:13.59 | Eddi|zuHause | it is in general not permitted to ask whether you can ask something. |
| 01:14.11 | Alumin | well :) |
| 01:14.18 | Alumin | I wasn't going to say anything :P |
| 01:14.22 | Erthe | I try to exercise cautious etiquette in IRC :P |
| 01:14.59 | Erthe | When I hit Alt+F2 to run a command and type gg:some search term, konqueror loads but the location bar displays a location from /var/cache |
| 01:15.10 | Erthe | As in /var/tmp/kdecache-etriaph/krun/14141.0.search |
| 01:15.27 | Erthe | Relative links can't be followed at all. |
| 01:15.59 | Alumin | Erthe: my guess on that would be the "gg" processing is only handled by Konqueror, and the alt-F2 thingy is doing its own processing |
| 01:16.19 | Alumin | try hitting alt-f2 and run "konqueror gg:terms" and see what happens |
| 01:16.24 | Erthe | Would there be a way to reconfigure it to work properly? |
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| 01:16.35 | Erthe | <-- KDE 4.3.1 btw |
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| 01:17.07 | Alumin | Erthe: if I'm right, and that's a pretty big if, but if I'm right about the cause, then probably not |
| 01:17.23 | Erthe | That loads properly |
| 01:17.29 | Alumin | but you could probably make a little shell script called "k" or "ko" or something to make the typing easier |
| 01:17.41 | Alumin | then you could type "k gg:terms" into the thingy |
| 01:17.50 | Erthe | I'd have to make one for each search helper.. |
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| 01:18.09 | Alumin | well no, just make a shell script called k that calls "konqueror ${*}" |
| 01:18.45 | Erthe | So the krun app in plasma is loading the contents and passing the URL to Konqueror you think? |
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| 01:21.55 | Alumin | yeah, I'm guessing krunner is doing some processing on it to even figure out which app to send that string to |
| 01:22.01 | Alumin | and in the process the original text gets lost |
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| 01:22.32 | Erthe | Hmm. |
| 01:22.37 | Erthe | So I'd have to hack KRunner |
| 01:22.44 | Alumin | but I'm nowhere near a KDE dev |
| 01:22.52 | Eddi|zuHause | (phrases to avoid when joining a new channel: "Hello. [long pause]", "Is this where i can ask questions about <channel name>?", "Does anybody know anything about <vague topic>?", "You guys are idiots!") |
| 01:23.03 | cagonto | online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html |
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| 01:23.06 | Eddi|zuHause | Erthe: why don't you put konqueror on a global shortcut |
| 01:23.23 | Eddi|zuHause | and then type the gg:blah into the konqueror location bar? |
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| 01:23.48 | Alumin | that's the same number of keystrokes actually :) |
| 01:24.00 | Eddi|zuHause | exactly ;) |
| 01:24.30 | Alumin | whoa |
| 01:24.38 | Alumin | Erthe: install quicksand |
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| 01:25.03 | Erthe | Quicksand eh? |
| 01:25.03 | Eddi|zuHause | could have a search bar plugin and save the "gg:" even ;) |
| 01:25.03 | Alumin | I just hit alt-f2 and typed "gg:some stuff" and it completed as a Google search |
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| 01:25.27 | Erthe | In KRunner? |
| 01:25.39 | Erthe | Or Quicksand?. |
| 01:25.39 | Alumin | when you install Quicksand it replaces KRunner |
| 01:25.50 | Alumin | (as the Alt-F2 shortcut) |
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| 01:26.20 | epdsn | hi everyone I new to this |
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| 01:26.35 | Alumin | and it used Konqueror even though my default handler is Firefox, so it's definitely searching Konqueror's search accelerators explicitly |
| 01:26.41 | Eddi|zuHause | hm. it works properly in krunner here |
| 01:26.47 | epdsn | I'm looking for blender artists like me. :) |
| 01:26.56 | Alumin | Eddi|zuHause: hmm that's weird |
| 01:27.02 | Erthe | Trying to find a package for Kubuntu |
| 01:27.11 | Alumin | epdsn: I can't art my way out of a paper bag unfortunately |
| 01:27.39 | Alumin | drawing stick figures with Kolourpaint is about as advanced as I get |
| 01:27.45 | epdsn | haha sorry for just jumping in. |
| 01:27.53 | Alumin | that, and captioning cats :P |
| 01:28.16 | Alumin | Erthe: should be in the repos, what version do you have? |
| 01:28.20 | Alumin | epdsn: no problem |
| 01:29.08 | Erthe | 9.04 |
| 01:29.40 | Alumin | hmm, that's weird |
| 01:29.47 | Alumin | where did I get this from?! |
| 01:30.29 | epdsn | I just installed fedora last night and really digging it. |
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| 01:30.38 | Hagfish | i'm using Debian Testing and i suddenly noticed that i couldn't copy and paste between KDE programs. i upgraded to 4.3.1 but that hasn't improved it (i can paste KDE->other, and I can paste things in a KDE app which i copied from the same app, but not paste other->KDE) |
| 01:30.41 | Alumin | oh wait |
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| 01:30.56 | Alumin | hehe I just clicked the wrench icon and changed it to "task-oriented" |
| 01:31.04 | Alumin | I guess it was always Quicksand |
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| 01:34.04 | Erthe | Task oriented doesn't seem to submit a web shortcut at all |
| 01:34.36 | Erthe | Oh, shortcuts were off, but after I turned them on same deal |
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| 01:38.12 | Eddi|zuHause | i don't know why, maybe it's your configuration, my configuration, suse's configuration, german configuration or whatever, but i can only tell that it's working here... |
| 01:38.15 | Hagfish | oh, if i load klipper from the console, i get "QClipboard: cannot transfer data, no data available" |
| 01:38.19 | Hagfish | man, i had to type that in |
| 01:38.24 | Hagfish | and have to type it into google now |
| 01:38.32 | Erthe | LOL |
| 01:38.35 | Erthe | Wait Hag |
| 01:38.56 | Erthe | http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=QClipboard:+cannot+transfer+data,+no+data+available&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= |
| 01:39.03 | Erthe | Click away |
| 01:39.10 | Hagfish | thanks |
| 01:42.29 | Erthe | bbiab |
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| 01:50.23 | Hagfish | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199333#c12 |
| 01:50.35 | Hagfish | looks like the bug is known, and supposedly fixed |
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| 01:59.47 | zdz | nobody? |
| 02:00.37 | Eddi|zuHause | zdz: you did not ask anything. |
| 02:00.59 | zdz | hehe |
| 02:02.53 | Hagfish | looks like the copy-paste bug may be fixed in qt 4.5.3, which might come out next month, and possibly packaged by debian soon after |
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| 02:03.08 | Hagfish | but going a month without copy+paste doesn't seem like a great situation to be in |
| 02:03.26 | Hagfish | there must be some sort of workaround |
| 02:03.30 | Hagfish | that doesn't involve using Gnome |
| 02:03.36 | Eddi|zuHause | there's always the way of compiling yourself ;) |
| 02:03.52 | Hagfish | Eddi|zuHause: technically, yes |
| 02:04.14 | Hagfish | i think i would rather just get angry than do that |
| 02:04.37 | Eddi|zuHause | that i can't help you with ;) |
| 02:04.47 | Hagfish | heh, don't worry, i'm not asking for help with that |
| 02:05.19 | Hagfish | i just think that if i'm constantly chasing upstream unstable versions to fix the latest bug that they've caused, then i'm not really making the situation any better |
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| 02:06.00 | Hagfish | i'd be interested to check whether this bug occurs in a clean install |
| 02:06.10 | Hagfish | it's almost the sort of thing you could write a testcase for |
| 02:06.13 | Eddi|zuHause | well, you could check out the stable branch, and just backport the mentioned fix |
| 02:06.42 | Hagfish | hmm, if i have to create a version by hand, i think of that as unstable (and it probably is) |
| 02:07.16 | Eddi|zuHause | well, yes, but there are different kinds of unstable ;) |
| 02:07.22 | Hagfish | true |
| 02:07.58 | Hagfish | speaking of unstable, i could use a different version of debian |
| 02:08.09 | Hagfish | use 4.2 or something which doesn't have this bug |
| 02:08.41 | Hagfish | that's quite a lot of packages to change, and it's not going to be sanctioned by debian, but if it gives me copy/paste back... |
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| 02:09.48 | genjix | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Animated+Video+Wallpaper?content=112105 |
| 02:10.08 | genjix | plasma plugin :pp |
| 02:10.13 | genjix | so cool |
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| 02:14.05 | marco | where can i view the changes going on future kde 4.3.2? |
| 02:14.09 | marco | any svn changelog? |
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| 02:19.11 | Arpman | what is the command to rebuild the kde4 plugins list? |
| 02:20.47 | Arpman | ksycoca or something liek that |
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| 02:39.50 | ashes | hello |
| 02:39.51 | PhrkOnLsh | so, I hear amarok 2.2b has media sync support... but I cannot find where. Does anyone have an idea? |
| 02:39.55 | PhrkOnLsh | hi ashes |
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| 02:40.48 | ashes | i'm installing kde from source (linuxfromscratch). i noted that pdl-linux has git branch updates. could one of you help me find where i can download the 3.5.10 git branches for the kde packages? |
| 02:40.54 | Draggor | If i want to bind alt + tab to walk through the desktop list, is there also a way to have alt+tab, if pressed quickly, only swap back and forth between the current and last desktop? |
| 02:43.24 | PhrkOnLsh | oh way cool. It shows up in the media browser |
| 02:47.27 | Draggor | Anybody? |
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| 02:51.08 | ashes | svn. i found it |
| 02:51.08 | ashes | thanks :-) |
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| 03:08.44 | daemoen | sup guys |
| 03:09.21 | daemoen | anyone have any idea where to start with konqueror crashes that force your x session to re-init? |
| 03:16.23 | marco_ | cowould Kde 4.4 will be based on Qt 4.6? |
| 03:17.29 | n0sq | when i click on forward in kmail no text appears in the e-mail - is this a known bug? |
| 03:17.55 | Alumin | n0sq: although it should quote by default, you just need to edit the standard templates |
| 03:20.00 | marco_ | cowould Kde 4.4 will be based on Qt 4.6? |
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| 03:29.08 | lamdk | how to i make ma Fn+F7 brightness control to work in KDE? it works in Gnome =( |
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| 03:54.59 | PhrkOnLsh | what is recommended way to change kde3 applications' settings without kconfig? |
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| 04:14.49 | hoban | evening all |
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| 04:46.09 | hoban | how do I know if vsync is really working? It's checked on, and direct rendering is in use, but I still have tearing when moving windows or during video playback |
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| 04:50.44 | hoban | nevermind. just fixed it :) I had already set "sync to vblank" for the "X Server XVideo Settings" portion of nvidia-settings, but hadn't checked "Sync to VBlank" in the "OpenGL Settings" portion |
| 04:50.52 | hoban | everything is faster and prettier now. cool! |
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| 04:59.07 | rejohn | What's the best(s) kde ftp client(s) to use? I'm having problems getting ftp with kftpgrabber, firefox & konqueror. Thx. I'm using KUbuntu 904 w/ latest KDE - (4.3??) from ppa - launchpad?? |
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| 05:01.23 | bfrog | konqueror doesn't work for you? |
| 05:01.31 | fhenning09 | Can anyone tell me how to get Kdevelop installed on win? |
| 05:01.43 | bfrog | fhenning09: virtual machine? |
| 05:01.52 | bfrog | I dunno, last I read it wasn't very useful |
| 05:01.59 | bfrog | did they finally get it up and running with mingw or something? |
| 05:02.26 | fhenning09 | Just gonna play around and see how well it funtions on winblows |
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| 05:22.19 | otay | Help! I just booted my Linux system and don't have my wallaper or desktop icons. Has anybody else seen this happen? |
| 05:23.57 | otay | My panel is missing all my widgets too |
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| 05:55.11 | gnu_d | Hi, I wonder how to use krunner to autocomlete filepaths like "/mei" which results in "/media/", is there such a feature ? |
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| 06:00.49 | PhrkOnLsh | http://tinyurl.com/mwo8yo |
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| 06:06.48 | Rasi | wow |
| 06:06.57 | Rasi | i have seen colored labels for the 1st time in mac os x |
| 06:07.01 | Rasi | i want this in kde :) |
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| 06:45.05 | slava_ | ЫÑÑÑÑÑ |
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| 06:51.29 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 08:00.18 | Elvanor | Does the newest Konqueror uses vanilla WebKit, or KHTML? |
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| 08:06.34 | Torch | Elvanor: khtml |
| 08:06.38 | cb400f | Elvanor: the upstream default is khtml |
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| 08:11.16 | esperegu | what is the right way to set up sound? which soundserver should I use on kde? |
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| 08:12.59 | Torch | esperegu: you should ask on your distribution's channel what they recommend. |
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| 08:17.14 | Elvanor | Torch: and recent khtml and webkits differ a lot ? |
| 08:17.25 | Torch | Elvanor: yes. |
| 08:17.37 | Elvanor | Torch: in rendering too? |
| 08:17.40 | Torch | Elvanor: sure. |
| 08:17.49 | Elvanor | I just need an HTML rendering engine to render to an image |
| 08:18.04 | Torch | Elvanor: well, why not just use khtml then? |
| 08:18.05 | Elvanor | I found khtml2png, just wondered if the output would differ a lot from webkit |
| 08:18.07 | pht | anyone? is there a way to run multiple konsole windows as separate processes instead of threads or whatever it does? |
| 08:18.21 | Elvanor | Torch: I need a renderer as standard compliant as possible |
| 08:18.46 | Torch | Elvanor: just try it and look at the results, then |
| 08:19.05 | Elvanor | will do |
| 08:19.55 | Torch | pht: probably not. it's designed to be a so called "KUniqueApplication" |
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| 08:20.19 | Torch | pht: there may be ways for a user to get around this, but i'm not aware of them. |
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| 08:26.28 | pht | Torch: why is that? |
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| 08:30.35 | Torch | pht: it's the way the code is designed, i guess. i'm not familiar with konsole's code or design at all. |
| 08:31.16 | Torch | pht: what are you trying to achieve with multiple processes? |
| 08:32.21 | pht | Torch: normal unix behavior instead of idiot box (tm) |
| 08:32.45 | pht | for example, when i kill one window (or it dies), it won't take the rest of 'em down |
| 08:33.03 | pht | or for another example, stracing like this is almost impossible |
| 08:33.19 | Torch | pht: why would you strace konsole? |
| 08:34.09 | pht | why not? |
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| 08:34.50 | Torch | pht: stracing an application makes sense if it's not working right and you're diagnosign a bug. this requires some knowledge of the code that you obviously do not have. |
| 08:35.23 | Torch | pht: if stracing multithreaded apps is too hard, just don't do it with konsole ;-) |
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| 08:36.13 | pht | Torch: you're just dodging my arguments ... |
| 08:36.37 | Torch | pht: you did not yet present any arguments at all. |
| 08:36.51 | Torch | pht: you're ranting and bashing konsole. this is pointless. |
| 08:37.40 | pht | Torch: i'm just answering your questions |
| 08:38.02 | pht | (and you answered mine, thats okay) |
| 08:38.27 | pht | whats not okay is that you're trying to make me believe that i dont really need what i ask for. |
| 08:44.31 | Torch | pht: let's cut this short: you can strace konsole right now, no one stops you. what you can't have is multiple konsole processes. you call that "idiot box", but i haven't had a single problem with this design in the last 10 years. |
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| 08:56.00 | pht | Torch: well it is definitely drifting from the unix concepts by not using multiple processes for multiple things... |
| 08:56.48 | Mamarok | guys, this discussio n is going nowhere, please |
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| 08:57.14 | Mamarok | pht: you still didn't come up with a valid argument why you would need separate processes |
| 08:57.43 | Mamarok | also, you have 6 different terminals available through Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 |
| 08:57.56 | Mamarok | that should be enough I bet |
| 08:59.17 | pht | Mamarok: i was kind of asking for a "valid argument" of why not. |
| 09:00.09 | Mamarok | pht: ... |
| 09:00.33 | Mamarok | because KDE is a desktop, if you want to run terminal applications in the Unix way, use the terminals |
| 09:00.36 | pht | and i gave you a couple of arguments: stability (crashes) and manageability (stracing, etc). and i can think of more: security (selinux labels; separate process space), memory efficiency (fragmentation). |
| 09:00.36 | Mamarok | there |
| 09:00.58 | pht | KDE is a Unix desktop |
| 09:01.17 | Mamarok | pht: sorry, but stracing is the argument I don't buy, I don't see the use for it |
| 09:01.58 | Mamarok | pht: everything you have in the terminals, so please stop that, you already have what you want there |
| 09:02.06 | pht | even if you don't then there are the others |
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| 09:02.32 | pht | Mamarok: what do you mean by 'in the terminals'? |
| 09:03.18 | Mamarok | pht: read what I said above. |
| 09:04.22 | pht | Mamarok: konsole is a terminal |
| 09:04.40 | Mamarok | ... |
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| 09:04.49 | pht | and it actually makes more effort to run it as a single process than multiple ones |
| 09:05.00 | pht | so all i was asking for was a reason why this was done |
| 09:05.03 | pinotree | konsole is a terminal _emulator_ |
| 09:05.10 | pht | technical? philosophical? |
| 09:05.48 | pht | pinotree: technically speaking, linux VC is also a terminal emulator |
| 09:06.21 | pht | so is aterm |
| 09:06.27 | pht | and other software |
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| 09:07.22 | pht | normally they run 1 process per window... because it's easier that way... so again im asking what were the reasons behind designing the konsole as single process app |
| 09:08.14 | pht | if the answer is "because of KDE", then it is not very specific |
| 09:08.22 | pinotree | in konsole it was then easier to have that way |
| 09:09.03 | pht | pinotree, ok, and please elaborate on that a bit :) |
| 09:09.11 | pinotree | i'm not a konsole developer |
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| 09:10.16 | pht | fair enough, but you could've said that in the beginning |
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| 09:12.36 | lubomir | hello |
| 09:13.05 | lubomir | what keyboad button had i to press to move the mini-programms on my status bar? |
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| 09:14.01 | cb400f | unlock widgets.. click on cashew in right side of panel.. then drag and drop widgets |
| 09:14.18 | cb400f | you |
| 09:14.26 | cb400f | 'll need the mouse anyway |
| 09:15.30 | lubomir | cb400f, ah, yea, that was the way. thanks! |
| 09:17.15 | the_p | hello. is there a plasmoid available that shows the current cpu fequency? |
| 09:19.59 | Mamarok | the_p: system monitor? |
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| 09:30.12 | messerting | Hi, I've just tried to enable auto-login in KDM (KDE4, Fedora 11), but it didn't work, and now I can't open "Login Manager" in systemsettings anymore. Which logs should I look into? |
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| 09:31.31 | messerting | "kcmshell4 kdm" doesn't work either |
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| 10:03.21 | duke_ | Hi, guys, what can I do with this error: x11helper.cpp:413: undefined reference to `_XiGetDevicePresenceNotifyEvent' during compilation process? Kde 4.3.1 |
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| 10:22.32 | ToreadorVampire | Oh hai - KDE 4.3 - the network management plasma widget - I see 4 options: DHCP, Manual, Auto IP and "shared" - that "shared" setting, what does it mean? Does it mean "use DHCP for the IP address but allow me to specify my own DNS server and search domain"? |
| 10:22.35 | ToreadorVampire | (which is what I want) |
| 10:23.12 | Torch | duke_: pastebin the all error messages. be sure to include the beginning of the errors. |
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| 10:26.38 | duke_ | Torch: wait a moment, please... I'm try to rebuild after "make clean" |
| 10:28.11 | Torch | duke_: if you're on debian or ubuntu, you might have encountered https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxi/+bug/373711 |
| 10:28.17 | Torch | duke_: but that is pure speculation |
| 10:28.34 | messerting | (kdm autologin started to work for me after reboot, ok) |
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| 10:31.23 | duke_ | Torch: thx ) |
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| 11:03.48 | MaNI | how can I change the default language kmail uses for spell checking? |
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| 11:08.03 | MaNI | never mind I see it is a central setting in systemsettings |
| 11:08.06 | Logi | in the ubuntu karmic alphas, trying to "Configure file sharing" for a folder, it silently does "kdesudo kcmshell4 fileshare" which results in "findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found". Anyone know what's hapening? |
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| 11:16.00 | Torch | Logi: ask this in #kubuntu |
| 11:16.18 | Torch | Logi: or #ubuntu+1 or wherever they discus unreleased stuff |
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| 11:20.57 | duke_ | Torch: well, I did it after applying this patch: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-buildsystem&m=123916318231986&w=2 )) |
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| 11:40.18 | ToreadorVampire | OK - Something has been futz'd with in Kubuntu's backports repository which broke my install of 9.04 - just made a totally fresh install and the second I upgraded to KDE 4.3.1 via the same route the machine broke again ... how difficult is it to install KDE 4.3 from source onto ... say Debian Lenny? |
| 11:40.44 | ToreadorVampire | Coz I am pretty much ready to give up on Kubuntu now :( |
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| 11:41.17 | Torch | ToreadorVampire: many people are successfully running kde 4.3.1 on jaunty, including myself. |
| 11:41.41 | ToreadorVampire | Well, I switched my machine on this morning to a segfault from plasma |
| 11:42.32 | ToreadorVampire | I reinstalled (totally), and did nothing more than add the backports ppa, upgrade all my packages to latest versions, reboot and then was staring at exactly the same segfault |
| 11:42.36 | ToreadorVampire | So somehting is broken |
| 11:42.54 | Torch | ToreadorVampire: did you start with a new user profile? |
| 11:43.10 | ToreadorVampire | Torch> Yes, I renamed my old profile also so a new one would be created |
| 11:45.13 | Torch | ToreadorVampire: pastebin the backtrace from the segfault, then |
| 11:46.33 | ToreadorVampire | Can't - plasma crashes, but kwin fails to load and I have an unuseable system |
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| 11:47.02 | ToreadorVampire | Also, I didn't get around to installing any -dev packages so there would have been no debugging symbols available anyway |
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| 11:47.33 | Torch | ToreadorVampire: these come from the dbg (or dbgsym?) packages on ubuntu and you could still install those. |
| 11:47.41 | ToreadorVampire | I'm just ready to give up on Ubuntu atm - since Intrepid onwards it has really gone downhill IMO - I might have another look once Karmic is ready |
| 11:47.46 | Logi | Torch: tried in #ubuntu+1 to no avail. I'll give #kubuntu a try. |
| 11:47.56 | ToreadorVampire | Torch> Oh, eryeah, I meant -dbg not -dev |
| 11:48.36 | Torch | ToreadorVampire: some people here like opensuse better, some debian. in my experienec, any distro has its own share of problems. |
| 11:49.32 | Torch | ToreadorVampire: as i said before, kde 4.3.1 works fine for me on jaunty. |
| 11:50.15 | ToreadorVampire | Torch> Yeah ... I've been a Kubuntu user since dapper I think, and really liked it - my favourite version so far has been Hardy (the current LTS) but I had started to like elements of KDE4 and also the more up to date versions of app software in Jaunty |
| 11:50.39 | ToreadorVampire | But - stability and general holistic "it just works" has drifted downhill since Hardy IMO |
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| 11:51.12 | ToreadorVampire | begins installing Lenny |
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| 12:15.17 | Logi | does anyone have a fileshare.desktop file that they could send me? I may very well have the actual control module it's trying to launch, who knows? nobody in #ubuntu+1, #kde or #kubuntu does. |
| 12:16.37 | MinceR | if nobody on #kde knows, why ask on #kde? :> |
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| 12:19.38 | ToreadorVampire | Oh hai MinceR - didn't see you there :) |
| 12:19.53 | ToreadorVampire | tbh I should have expected to see you here |
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| 12:20.38 | MinceR | oh hai |
| 12:20.55 | einar77 | Logi: one sec |
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| 12:22.19 | einar77 | Logi: before I paste it, I assume you have the kdenetwork-filesharing package? |
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| 12:50.45 | Logi | einar77: checking - sorry, got called to something called... "work" or something like that |
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| 12:51.13 | Logi | einar77: nope, my first question was always where to find this file. Installing now. |
| 12:51.26 | Logi | einar77: with a bit of luck I'll be blasting AC/DC through the sonos in a couple of minutes :) |
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| 12:53.34 | Logi | einar77: you have a very Nordic nick for an Italian. I was about to check if you were someone I know from up here |
| 12:54.23 | einar77 | Logi: too long of a story why I ended up with such a nick :P |
| 12:55.08 | Logi | einar77: installed the package and I now get the File Sharing KCM, but only running it with sudo rather than kdesude, but that seems to be a known problem. Thanks! |
| 12:55.45 | einar77 | Logi: that will only be fixed if/when someone (for the 4.4 dev cycle) ports it to the new authorization system that just recently landed in KDE SVN |
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| 13:00.25 | Logi | einar77: Beh, non e' un grande problema. Sembre che funziona adesso. Grazie encora! |
| 13:01.59 | Logi | oh, I've a funny bug. I have an external monitor that I rotate so I can see more code on-screen at once and that mostly works no, but the mouse pointer is displaced by ~1cm and not correctly rotate. It's funny :) |
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| 13:08.05 | jmut | I am kde 4 is there some way to close stalled tab in new konsole? |
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| 13:11.01 | ToreadorVampire | jmut> I usually right click it and choose "close" |
| 13:11.12 | ToreadorVampire | Or maybe right-click the tab itself |
| 13:11.24 | ToreadorVampire | Sadly, my KDE4 is dead atm and I am reinstalling, so I can't check :( |
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| 13:12.38 | jmut | ToreadorVampire: no such menu |
| 13:12.55 | jmut | ToreadorVampire: the issue is I have ~7 tabs and I want to close just one |
| 13:13.12 | jmut | ToreadorVampire: if it's responsive all is cool but if stalled I have to close whole console :( |
| 13:13.15 | ToreadorVampire | Hmm, I know I was able to close tabs like that, but I don't remember how, and right now the only system I have available is WinXP |
| 13:13.25 | ToreadorVampire | shakes fist at Kubuntu |
| 13:13.37 | jmut | ToreadorVampire: used to be possible with old konsole... |
| 13:14.02 | ToreadorVampire | Tried Ctrl-W btw? |
| 13:14.17 | jmut | yep |
| 13:14.18 | ToreadorVampire | is taking guesses at how he did it |
| 13:14.19 | jmut | no luck :) |
| 13:14.30 | jmut | aaaaaaah |
| 13:14.35 | jmut | ctrl+shift+w |
| 13:14.36 | jmut | worked |
| 13:14.38 | jmut | :) |
| 13:14.54 | jmut | on file menu...there is close tab option ... pfew :) so happy |
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| 14:04.35 | Buzz| | hi |
| 14:04.56 | Buzz| | were to sep up the shortcut for changing to desktop4, kde 4.2? |
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| 14:08.08 | FiNeX | Buzz|: from system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts -> kde component: kwin |
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| 15:09.24 | Torch | sxe: no idea, the "drop to pastebin/imagebin" one works fine for me, however. |
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| 15:10.15 | sxe | yes that one works fine to me too |
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| 15:20.04 | Maccco | Hi all! I have a phantom kmail in tasks panel, how do I get rid of it? |
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| 15:39.32 | zareliman | hi, ive got some questions about kde4 |
| 15:39.49 | zareliman | does it support another window manager instead of kwin ? |
| 15:40.21 | muep__ | others can probably work with it |
| 15:40.46 | muep__ | but you'd need to define support before the question can be answered |
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| 15:44.38 | sterna | fir... now first runs firefox installer, to get the browser i need to push tab once |
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| 15:51.26 | zareliman | does kde4 support andother wm besides kwin ? |
| 15:51.46 | mgraesslin | zareliman: you can use whatever window manager you want |
| 15:51.55 | mgraesslin | but don't expect an integration like with kwin |
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| 15:57.48 | L3thal | hmm , i have an array with eth0 , but kdialog wont show up , kdialog --menu "Mesk Linux Network config" ${ethercards[@]} |
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| 15:57.53 | L3thal | and idea ? |
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| 16:00.23 | zareliman | mgraesslin: and how to change it ? |
| 16:01.05 | mgraesslin | zareliman: you can select the window manager to start in systemsettings/preffered applications |
| 16:01.20 | mgraesslin | but I have never done it, somehow I don't have the need to change from kwin ;-) |
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| 16:09.26 | zareliman | mgraesslin: kwin crashes on my ssystem sometimes |
| 16:10.04 | mgraesslin | crash reports are welcome except it's related to alt+tab |
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| 16:11.01 | zareliman | mgraesslin: I think theyÅe related to the buggy ati's drivers |
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| 16:12.50 | perlmonkey2 | Ah, I accidently remove my task manager. I added a new one but how do I move it left of the other panel members? |
| 16:14.13 | perlmonkey2 | Ah, nm. When viewing panel options mousing over the manager allows me to move it. |
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| 16:21.50 | zareliman | how can I restart the plasma desktop ? |
| 16:22.03 | zareliman | the desktop becomes black sometimes |
| 16:22.18 | zareliman | and no wallpaper or widgets |
| 16:23.49 | muep__ | zareliman: kquitapp plasma-desktop quits it, but I'm not sure of the best way to restart it |
| 16:24.09 | muep__ | if krunner still works without plasma, you can probably launch it from there |
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| 16:27.07 | zareliman | krunner is the alt+f2 prompt ? |
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| 16:30.43 | Eddi|zuHause | you can start programs from any tty by setting DISPLAY=:0 |
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| 16:33.11 | muep__ | zareliman: yes |
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| 16:34.16 | saman | test |
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| 16:36.46 | zareliman | muep__: but i cant find the plasma command |
| 16:36.51 | zareliman | only plasmidomics |
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| 16:37.55 | piphi_ | hi. |
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| 16:39.41 | piphi_ | I changed from Kubuntu 8.04 KDE3 to Kubuntu 9.04 KDE4, now I want to reimport my timetrack-data (formerly karm, now ktimetracker). |
| 16:40.13 | muep__ | zareliman: should be plasma-desktop in a recent KDE |
| 16:40.18 | piphi_ | in ktimetracker I can select the old karm.ics-file, but then nothing happens |
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| 16:46.03 | kvikas | I'm facing a sound delay problem in all kde apps. There is delay of 10s to 2min between i press play on amarok and music starts playing or between notification sound in kopete and actually getting a message. All kde apps have this issue. |
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| 16:46.25 | kvikas | am i missing any package or configuration somewhere. I'm on archlinux kde4 |
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| 16:46.55 | elkrammer | kvikas: what sound backend are you using |
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| 16:47.02 | kvikas | gstreamer |
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| 16:47.30 | elkrammer | kvikas: have you tried it with xine? |
| 16:47.36 | elkrammer | see if you get the same resullts |
| 16:47.48 | perlmonkey2 | Ah, I keep losing widgets off the screen when I accidently make them desktop widgets and want htem bck on the panel bar. Any idea how to remove them or get them back to an editable form? |
| 16:47.51 | kvikas | elkrammer: sure, let me install xine |
| 16:49.40 | kvikas | elkrammer: i already have xine-lib installed. do i need to install phonon-xine for xine backend to show up in amarok setting? |
| 16:50.06 | elkrammer | kvikas: you dont do it from amarok, you do it from the kde control center -> multimedia -> backend |
| 16:50.41 | elkrammer | i mean system settings :) i still dont get used to the knew name :) |
| 16:50.47 | elkrammer | new* |
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| 16:52.42 | kvikas | elkrammer: do you know the binary name to run for kde system settings, i'm on fluxbox now. |
| 16:53.48 | Torch | kvikas: systemsettings |
| 16:56.26 | kvikas | Torch: sweet, thanks. |
| 16:56.41 | kvikas | elkrammer: looks like changing backend works |
| 16:56.53 | kvikas | so an issue with gstreamer? |
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| 17:01.20 | lukas | is it a known bog, where plasma uses same settings for 2 same plasmods (like 2 clocks)? |
| 17:02.00 | elkrammer | kvikas: ive never used gstreamer as my backend before so im not sure :) but xine does the job just fine for me :) |
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| 17:02.48 | kvikas | elkrammer: yeah true. i don't know why i removed it and started using gstreamer. Thanks a lot for helping me. |
| 17:03.24 | elkrammer | you're welcome |
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| 17:06.37 | genjix | mwhahahaha |
| 17:06.45 | genjix | im rated #1 for wallpapers on kde-look.org |
| 17:06.55 | genjix | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Animated+Video+Wallpaper?content=112105 |
| 17:07.01 | genjix | :) |
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| 17:08.57 | Torch | genjix: well, congratulations. |
| 17:09.11 | sloinn | hi, the UTC driven time isn't right |
| 17:09.27 | sloinn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.59 | sloinn | hwclocl --utc shows the right time |
| 17:10.04 | elkrammer | sloinn: try to use some sort of ntp client if possible |
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| 17:11.39 | sabayonweb_60005 | nice job on 4.3.1 is there any keyboard short cuts or documentation on setting kwin up? could someone point me to a link? |
| 17:12.34 | sloinn | but my hw clocks are right |
| 17:12.44 | sloinn | why would I need synchdonization |
| 17:13.00 | sloinn | only the one in system tray |
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| 17:13.25 | Torch | sloinn: it says something else than date in a shell? |
| 17:13.37 | sloinn | yes |
| 17:14.18 | sloinn | according to them all over the world it's 17:03 right now |
| 17:14.29 | sloinn | *15 |
| 17:14.50 | sloinn | but $date and $hwclock says the correct time in my country |
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| 17:18.43 | sloinn | really cool...digital clock setting...only setting in entire KDE..and all I can do is to pick a time zone...to have the same wrong time whatever I choose |
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| 17:24.52 | jhutchins_lt | Is there something new that replaces synce-kpm? |
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| 17:29.47 | pietro-ki | hi, #kontact chanel is empty. So I'll ask here: where can I found some info about use of %TOADDR, %TONAME and so on commands of KMail? tnx |
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| 17:31.33 | jhutchins_lt | 427 lurkers. |
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| 17:31.50 | pinotree | and 1 impatient |
| 17:32.05 | Torch | jhutchins_lt: be patient. if someone knows, you'll get an answer. |
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| 17:32.15 | Torch | jhutchins_lt: i don't. so i didn say anything. |
| 17:34.21 | jhutchins_lt | If anybody's interested, synce-trayicon + multisync-gui can be used, kitchensync has not been ported to 4 yet. |
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| 17:39.46 | LnxSlck | i have a multimedia keyboard |
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| 17:40.14 | LnxSlck | let's say i press play and i want it to play something in amarok |
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| 17:57.47 | nobill | hey, anyone using the new analog meter / plotter plasmoid succesfully? |
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| 18:01.10 | L3thal | i have array with 1 element , but i cant display it because it must ve two elements at least ( tag and item ) |
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| 18:09.57 | perlmonkey2 | Anyone know if uBlog plasmoid uses the twitter api to dirrectly comm with twitter or if they use a proxy? |
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| 18:14.02 | perlmonkey2 | nevermind, it just crashes kde |
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| 19:07.00 | RobertXS | Hello, is there anyway to change the "layout in KDE Start Menu" So it not will look like Windows Vista? I want it to be littlebit simpler |
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| 19:07.39 | Torch | RobertXS: right click on the icon |
| 19:07.50 | Torch | RobertXS: pick "switch to classic menu" or s.th. like that |
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| 19:08.45 | RobertXS | Torch: If i right click on the icon i just get 3 options, unlock widgets, help, and other cant change it |
| 19:09.14 | Torch | RobertXS: then pick unlock widgets first |
| 19:09.21 | Torch | RobertXS: after that, see above ;-) |
| 19:09.39 | RobertXS | Haha, i didt thought about doing that first.. thanks Torch ;) |
| 19:09.49 | RobertXS | feelin smart...not |
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| 19:10.47 | Torch | RobertXS: nevermind. you shouldn't feel stupid because of that... you should feel stupid because you compared it to windows vista ;-)) |
| 19:11.52 | RobertXS | Torch: haha, that was the only thing i could discribe it... my english sux :) sorry for that |
| 19:11.59 | RobertXS | *with |
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| 19:14.48 | KDE4000 | What good built in image preview software is there for KDE3 konqueror? |
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| 19:17.04 | pinotree | gwenview, kuickshow |
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| 19:21.32 | jthomas_sb | RobertXS there is also a widget/plasmoid for a different menu called Lancelot. I like the default tho because I can search for apps by name or description, makes things very simple :) |
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| 19:32.22 | Shura | Hi dudes. I don't know why, but I have no "Actions" in Klipper. Where can I find some ? |
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| 19:32.55 | jthomas_sb | Shura when you click Klipper and select Configure, there is no icon for Actions? |
| 19:33.06 | jthomas_sb | or, its just empty? |
| 19:33.09 | Shura | There is the icon, but it's empty |
| 19:33.10 | jthomas_sb | myne is empty./ |
| 19:33.16 | Shura | Mine too⦠|
| 19:33.34 | jthomas_sb | ah, then i don't know :) |
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| 19:33.42 | Shura | Don't know where they are gone ^^ |
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| 19:39.10 | jcrawford | how can i make it so that the folders in Dolphin open with a single click rather than double click? |
| 19:43.51 | jthomas_sb | jcrawford in your System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Mouse, bottom half undfer 'Icons' |
| 19:44.00 | jcrawford | thanks |
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| 19:48.19 | occy | Anyone have what they consider a truly beautiful KDE desktop? I'm not trying to troll here, but I'm looking for a reason to switch from my current shiki-colors gnome themed desktop. (btw I have used KDE 0.1.0 and I used KDE circa 2000-2003) Just itching for a pretty reason to go back. |
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| 19:51.19 | Elvanor | There is still no NetworkManager plasmoid in 4.3 right? |
| 19:53.02 | crazy_pete | i am a new kde user, i want a spreadsheet that will support scientific math, what should i use please, or what are some that i should try, please? |
| 19:54.39 | crazy_pete | kspread is the "Commonly Installed" kde spreadsheet isnt it ? |
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| 19:56.10 | jthomas_sb | kspread is a part of KOffice and I think it has some pretty good math/formula stuff in it, but I've not used it. openOffice.org Calc is another option, not so KDE-centric tho. If you're going with either check the website to see if your repository is getting a rather new version; I think KOffice (kspread) is at 2.0.x and OOo is at 3.x |
| 19:56.35 | crazy_pete | thank you jthomas_sb |
| 19:56.46 | jthomas_sb | crazy_pete i am sure that the older KOffice 1.x is decent also |
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| 20:12.14 | jthomas_sb | occy kde4 is pretty in its own right :) |
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| 20:13.11 | occy | jthomas_sb: some things have bothered me when I've tried KDE in the recent past. The whole "desktop as a window" on your desktop really bugged me. |
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| 20:14.40 | jthomas_sb | occy the 'folder view' thing where the desktop contains basically a view of a folder? right-click and change the desktop from type 'Desktop' which contains folderviews, to just being type 'Folder view' which makes it like the desktop that you may be used to. |
| 20:14.49 | scrash09 | i'm going to try out kjots on a few users. iiuc, there IS a Kontact::Plugin for kjots. what do i need to do to get it enabled? after kjots install, it runs standalone just fine. but, in Kontact config/setup there's no sign of it. |
| 20:14.57 | nascentmind | hi. When i open vim on konsole and scroll up or down continously my cpu usage jumps. why is that? |
| 20:15.08 | occy | jthomas_sb: hmm |
| 20:15.42 | nascentmind | I am using a 21 inch monitor with vim having 2 files open split vertically. |
| 20:15.43 | occy | jthomas_sb: re-installing KDE now :) |
| 20:15.57 | jthomas_sb | :) |
| 20:16.00 | Elvanor | There is still no NetworkManager plasmoid in 4.3 right? |
| 20:16.14 | occy | hmm ubuntu only has 4.2.2 Should I go to the latest 4.3.1? |
| 20:17.16 | jthomas_sb | occy 4.3.1 is nice bt 4.2.x is pretty good too, imho |
| 20:17.18 | Elvanor | I have one big problem switching from 3.5 to 4.3 |
| 20:17.34 | Elvanor | How can I open a Konqueror tab in "file mode" ? |
| 20:17.41 | occy | meh if I'm going to use something I want the latest ;) |
| 20:18.32 | jthomas_sb | occy other than my crazy wallpepr, here is a shot of my desktop. When you have folders all across a network, those individual Folder View options come in very handy as I basically have sftp:// and smb:// access to various network drives http://imagebin.ca/view/4JFNxEYU.html |
| 20:18.57 | jthomas_sb | occy however, I am not sure if 4.2.2 can have the desktop as Folderview, so you may not get what you were hoping for :( |
| 20:18.59 | Elvanor | currently when I open a tab in Konqueror it seems to start in browser mode, and I have to click on the Home button to get it to /home/elvanor |
| 20:19.08 | Elvanor | and the view somehow changes which takes half of a second |
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| 20:19.10 | Elvanor | painful |
| 20:19.32 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor in KDE4, while Konqueror still functions fine, Dolphin is the 'sandard' file manager now. |
| 20:19.34 | occy | jthomas_sb: I'm looking for a way to have 4.3.1 on Ubuntu now |
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| 20:19.53 | occy | jthomas_sb: not a bad setup... |
| 20:20.02 | jthomas_sb | probably a ppa somewhere but i don't trust Ubuntu's version of KDE, its always let me down |
| 20:20.20 | L3thal | whats the best way to display an array with kdialog ? |
| 20:20.40 | occy | jthomas_sb: so you'd rather install it from source? |
| 20:20.56 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: I really love Konq as a file manager |
| 20:20.59 | Elvanor | best I have seen |
| 20:21.12 | Elvanor | Can Dolphin opens remote folder via sftp for instance? |
| 20:21.29 | jthomas_sb | occy i'd rather use debian or sidux. source if you think that you can, but i don't know how.... perhaps kubuntu is better these days but i am not sure, i haven't used it in a year |
| 20:21.42 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor absolutely |
| 20:22.04 | jthomas_sb | sftp:// or smb:// or ftp:// or imap:// or or or... there are a lot of KIO-Slaves |
| 20:22.11 | Elvanor | hmmm |
| 20:22.21 | Elvanor | I tried very briefly Dolphin and hated it |
| 20:22.26 | Elvanor | but maybe I should try again |
| 20:22.28 | jthomas_sb | in KDE3, me also. |
| 20:22.37 | Elvanor | (this was in kde 4.2) |
| 20:22.41 | jthomas_sb | in KDE4, not sure why but it seems a lot better. |
| 20:22.42 | Elvanor | but I tried like 10 minutes so... |
| 20:22.49 | jthomas_sb | its not too diff from 4.2 to 4.3, so... |
| 20:23.00 | jthomas_sb | it is a bit different and takes some getting used to |
| 20:23.07 | jthomas_sb | over Konqueror |
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| 20:27.53 | occy | jthomas_sb: but yeah I've been playing with KDE since KFM 0.1.0 first released in Jan 97' :) |
| 20:28.07 | jthomas_sb | wow nice |
| 20:28.41 | occy | been trying to get back to KDE as it has a LOT more features than GNOME does, but I'll find some little thing that will urk me and go running back. |
| 20:29.57 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: you are right - Dolphin seems OK actually |
| 20:30.11 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor after another 10 minutes, its ok now? :D |
| 20:30.27 | Elvanor | yeah :) |
| 20:30.30 | Elvanor | except the location bar |
| 20:30.43 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor one of my favorite options is [ctrl][i] for a filter bar |
| 20:30.52 | Elvanor | it's inside the tabs now |
| 20:31.03 | Elvanor | and a lot of space is wasted because of the icons up I feel |
| 20:31.14 | jthomas_sb | location bar: click to the right of an address and it becomes a string; click the arrow and it goes back to the 'breadcrumbs' |
| 20:31.42 | jthomas_sb | oh wait, click the CHECKMARK and it becomes breadcrumbs |
| 20:32.25 | Elvanor | Do you know how to make the icons and main toolbar a lot smaller? |
| 20:32.39 | jthomas_sb | i am looking now, not seeing much tho |
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| 20:35.41 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor not seeing anything, sorry mate |
| 20:36.12 | Elvanor | too bad... cause those are really too big |
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| 20:36.22 | Elvanor | another thing: can you remove the location bar? |
| 20:36.26 | Elvanor | I cannot remove it |
| 20:36.40 | Leoryk | hi can you help me pleas with remote desktop control in KDE 4.3..? |
| 20:37.30 | Leoryk | gnome have choice for remote desktop control when you can see what user doing in real time, have kde same choice..? |
| 20:37.41 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: ^ |
| 20:37.47 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor remove the location bar?? dunno, seems that it would impede work tho if you don't know where you're at. Looks like you cannot tho. Put in Wishlist items for these on bugs.kde.org perhaps ? |
| 20:38.15 | jthomas_sb | Leoryk yes you can have remote desktop with KVnc |
| 20:38.16 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: yeah I dont actually want that, was just curious |
| 20:38.29 | jthomas_sb | worth a request for someone else's happiness maybe ;) |
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| 20:38.34 | Elvanor | The only real problem I have is the size of the main toolbar |
| 20:38.51 | Elvanor | but I am sold to Dolphin I think. It's not bad |
| 20:39.07 | Leoryk | jthomas_sb: and can i see what user doing in real time..? |
| 20:39.14 | Elvanor | It will maybe even solve my only complain about KDE 3.5: Konqueror crashes a lot in file manager mode |
| 20:39.22 | Elvanor | It's awesome, but crashes a lot |
| 20:39.49 | jthomas_sb | really? i never had that issue. |
| 20:40.00 | Elvanor | all the time |
| 20:40.08 | Elvanor | it happens when I copy and paste |
| 20:40.10 | Elvanor | (mostly) |
| 20:40.13 | Elvanor | between folders |
| 20:40.16 | jthomas_sb | Leoryk yes, using VNC as the connection stuff. You may have to reseach it a bit tho, i haven't used it much |
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| 20:42.12 | inc0 | hello |
| 20:43.10 | inc0 | I have problem- I cannot set second display in KDE 4.2.2- I have cloned monitors and I want them to be extended or even better to be 2 diffirent workspaces...is this possible? |
| 20:43.59 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: ha there is a last very important thing |
| 20:44.19 | Elvanor | Can new urls be opened in Dolphin in new tabs? |
| 20:45.35 | jthomas_sb | like, web URLs? or any uniform resource locator such as folders or sftp:// locations? Yes they can but I don't think http:// urls work, never tried |
| 20:46.23 | Leoryk | jthomas_sb: sorry for my bad english, but i need when somebody connect with vnc to my desktop, he see everything what i doing |
| 20:46.23 | jthomas_sb | http:// urls launch the default web browser |
| 20:46.44 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor a middle-click on a folder will open it in a new tab, like most other apps. |
| 20:46.45 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: folders urls |
| 20:47.02 | Elvanor | like for instance when I double click on the trash applet |
| 20:47.03 | Leoryk | jthomas_sb: now when somebody connet see only my profile but without my realtime working |
| 20:47.07 | jthomas_sb | [ctrl][t] will open a new tab with the same path as where your current tab is |
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| 20:48.04 | jthomas_sb | Leoryk not KVNC, look into KRDC, my mistake. it allows VNC but others also, as the VIEWING CLIENT. To share your desktop... not sure at this point :) I always to the viewing side :) |
| 20:50.51 | jthomas_sb | Leoryk try this? http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/remote-controlling-kde-4-desktop |
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| 20:52.06 | jthomas_sb | Krfb to share; Krdc to view. |
| 20:53.01 | Leoryk | jthomas_sb: thanks sou much |
| 20:53.10 | jthomas_sb | ;) |
| 20:54.16 | occy | jthomas_sb: ok just got it set up finally heh checking it out |
| 20:54.57 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: well, if I have a trash applet on the desktop and I double click |
| 20:55.08 | Elvanor | It opens a new Dolphin instance instead of using my existing one |
| 20:55.45 | occy | jthomas_sb: oops.. where did my desktop icons go ? |
| 20:55.53 | jthomas_sb | ah i see... not entirely sure there, you may be able to change the dolphin string to 'dolphin ' or something to use the existing window...? |
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| 20:55.55 | jthomas_sb | arg |
| 20:56.08 | jthomas_sb | that should have read, without a space in the middle, 'dolphin % U' |
| 20:56.19 | jthomas_sb | no space between % and U |
| 20:56.24 | jthomas_sb | but, not sure. |
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| 20:56.44 | jthomas_sb | if you have an existing dolphin, why not mid-click the Trash link on its left? |
| 20:59.08 | Elvanor | hmm |
| 20:59.13 | Elvanor | this was just an example |
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| 20:59.37 | Elvanor | Another thing bothering me, I open all my text files on a single Kate instance - but when I do that, Kate is not focused |
| 21:00.22 | Elvanor | I would prefer it to come to front (note this problem is also present on 3.5, although then the appli flashes) |
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| 21:02.29 | jthomas_sb | dunno there; when i open a file from Dolphin it opens in its own Kate... |
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| 21:03.36 | Elvanor | jthomas_sb: yes, this is because I added the -u option to the Kate launcher |
| 21:03.49 | Elvanor | Is there a key shortcut to show the desktop? |
| 21:03.56 | Elvanor | and hide all windows? |
| 21:04.00 | jthomas_sb | ah thats maybe what to add then to the Dolphin launcher, -u and not % U but not sure |
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| 21:04.39 | jthomas_sb | in kde4.3 clicking on the current desktop will do that; shortcut i am sure there is one but i dont know it |
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| 21:08.11 | jthomas_sb | Elvanor read this for some nice tips http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/smart-tips-and-tricks-to-get-the-best-from-kde-4-527497?artc_pg=1 |
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