00:00.17 | BCMM | or does it not exist at all in 4.2? |
00:01.17 | BCMM | wrinkliez, have you checked your colourscheme? |
00:01.55 | BCMM | wrinkliez, and does it still look like that if you disable desktop effects? |
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00:02.31 | wrinkliez | ive tried it with other colorschemes and it happens with effects or without |
00:03.50 | BCMM | reproducable every time? |
00:04.10 | Jucato | BCMM: not available in 4.2 |
00:04.12 | wrinkliez | yup and it happens on several different operating systems |
00:04.15 | BCMM | Jucato, thanks |
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00:04.19 | wrinkliez | arch, kubuntu, etc |
00:04.27 | BCMM | wrinkliez, on several systems? that's interesting |
00:04.38 | BCMM | several distros running on the same machine? |
00:05.39 | wrinkliez | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=194703 |
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00:06.17 | wrinkliez | i think they might have posted a fix but i have no idea what im looking at or how to use it lol |
00:06.26 | BCMM | wrinkliez, maybe it's your Xorg drivers? tried running with vesa? |
00:06.33 | BCMM | (not as a solution, as a test) |
00:06.47 | BCMM | hmm they say fixed |
00:06.51 | BCMM | lemme read that bug |
00:07.50 | wrinkliez | i havent tried it with vesa, no |
00:08.17 | BCMM | wrinkliez, well, according to the bug, they've fixed it now |
00:08.29 | BCMM | it should be fine in the next KDE version |
00:08.44 | wrinkliez | so it should be a-okay when 4.3 rolls out? (im not using the beta) |
00:09.17 | BCMM | wrinkliez, presumably |
00:09.27 | BCMM | wrinkliez, if it got in in time, i guess |
00:10.16 | wrinkliez | okay cool thanks |
00:10.18 | wrinkliez | i hope so lol |
00:10.50 | BCMM | they fixed it in SVN on June 22 |
00:11.00 | BCMM | http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=985441 |
00:11.27 | BCMM | wrinkliez, so i can't see why the fix shouldn't be in 4.3 next tuesday |
00:11.58 | wrinkliez | okay, awesome. thanks a lot! |
00:13.20 | BCMM | wrinkliez, the reason you couldn't work out how to use the fix is that they're discussing how to do things to the source |
00:13.34 | wrinkliez | aah. |
00:13.41 | wrinkliez | stumbled upon something i shouldnt have lol |
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00:19.16 | BCMM | wrinkliez, nah, that's what happens on bugzilla |
00:19.38 | BCMM | it's where they discuss how to fix problems; that's what it's for |
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00:55.43 | Robert__ | anyone has an idea how to solve it, (sorry for my bad english, I'm from argentina) |
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02:11.41 | kc8hfi_away | if I want something to automatically start up when I log into kde, where do I put it? |
02:12.17 | kc8hfi_away | never mind, I think I figured it out |
02:12.20 | Jucato | System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Autostart |
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02:21.27 | PhrkOnLsh | or if you are 1337 ln -s /your/thinger ~/.kde/Autostart |
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02:38.28 | Aishiko | aseigo, hi hi |
02:38.45 | aseigo | Aishiko: hi |
02:39.08 | Aishiko | aseigo, your the one that is fixing the dual monitor issue? |
02:40.46 | aseigo | Aishiko: multi-head, yes.. |
02:40.56 | aseigo | Aishiko: where there is a different x server on each screen |
02:42.25 | Aishiko | aseigo, that is the biggest reason I've not upgraded to 3.5.10 or later, it;s the fact I have issues with the x servers for 2 screens that have different sizes |
02:43.54 | Aishiko | but I have no idea on how to get the debugging information to fix the problem |
02:45.44 | kc8hfi_away | for the recently used apps, there isn't a way to increase it to more than 5 right now, are they? |
02:45.58 | kc8hfi_away | thinks somebody answered my question before |
02:46.28 | Aishiko | isn't under panel options when you bring up the pop up menu for that? |
02:47.52 | kc8hfi_away | hmm, didn't see an;ything there about that |
02:48.34 | Aishiko | kc8hfi_away, look for configure panel, then the Menus sub menu |
02:49.53 | aseigo | Aishiko: do you build kde from svn? |
02:51.08 | Aishiko | aseigo, no I generally make it from the ebuilds, however I am willing to make a copy of my OS and go into that to get the information that you need |
02:52.08 | kc8hfi_away | Aishiko: I don't see anything like that right off-hand. I'll dig around or something later. I've did enough damage for one evening |
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02:52.55 | aseigo | Aishiko: ok.. if you can get a build of at least kdelibs and kdebase from current trunk built and installed (can be to a different prefix than your current kde) then i can walk you through it. perhaps do that step first and then find me again? :) |
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02:53.12 | aseigo | kc8hfi_away: there's a control panel in kde4 for that |
02:53.32 | kc8hfi_away | aseigo: in system settings? |
02:53.33 | aseigo | kc8hfi_away: otherwise you can put a .desktop file in Autostart in your .kde .. if you google for "kde autostart" i'm sure you'll find it. it's in our FAQ |
02:53.38 | aseigo | kc8hfi_away: yes |
02:53.55 | kc8hfi_away | aseigo: oh, you mean the autostart stuff! yeah, I figured that part out |
02:54.07 | kc8hfi_away | aseigo: I just need to test it all out first, but I'm sure it'll work. |
02:55.51 | Aishiko | aseigo, OK how do I get the trunk? I've been told that KDE 3.5.9 can not live beside 4.X |
02:59.04 | aseigo | Aishiko: they were lieing :) |
02:59.49 | aseigo | Aishiko: or at least mistaken. http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 <-- that should help .. |
02:59.57 | Aishiko | aseigo, OK, but I'll still test it on a copy of my system before doing, (better safe then sorry) they said it had something to do with the linking in the gentoo builds |
03:00.11 | aseigo | Aishiko: you can also use kde-svnbuild: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/kdesvn-build |
03:01.55 | Aishiko | aseigo, thank you, I'll take a closer look, ohhh and I did send you an email to your kde account with more details :) |
03:02.21 | aseigo | Aishiko: yeah i'm a bit behind on my email |
03:02.31 | aseigo | Aishiko: just got back a couple days ago from vancouver where i was out house-hunting |
03:02.47 | Aishiko | aseigo, totally udnerstandable I had heard about you being out of town |
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04:27.09 | drakeman | any suggestion? |
04:29.25 | drakeman | hey, guys, good evening, im using debian testing (squeeze) using gnome right now, few months ago i installed kde4 from repos, and i install kde-standard package, but it was really slow on my machine i have an AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 2gb of ram, 200gb hard disk, video nvidia 8400gs, i would like to try kde , what package you recommend? is normall the slow thing in my system? gnome runs just fine.. |
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05:47.37 | racecar56 | it says my password is wrong but i *know* it's right |
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08:35.42 | OsamaK | In KMess, how to stop showing every notice in a messagebox? |
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08:36.57 | pinotree | OsamaK: #kmess |
08:37.49 | OsamaK | pinotree: This is not a channel, I tried before coming here. |
08:39.05 | pinotree | OsamaK: #kmess2 looks like |
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08:59.02 | Gumby | is there any way to trace why kontact/kmail loses its connection with my exchange server (which btw is on the same local network) |
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09:44.05 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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09:52.48 | slack_baphomet | whats the easiest way to get nvidia drivers installed on fedora 11 , kde |
09:53.04 | cb400f | ask in #fedora |
09:53.13 | cb400f | I think RPM Fusion has packages though |
09:53.14 | slack_baphomet | -.- my bad |
09:53.31 | slack_baphomet | same here but it changes all the time :) thanks much |
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10:37.16 | naiv | i'm looking for a config file to define the font to use with i think qt apps; something equivalant to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
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10:47.32 | tuxick | vodafone site blew up my konqueror, killed it and now kicker/menu is gone as well |
10:47.53 | tuxick | "application launcher" or whatever |
10:47.57 | tuxick | how to get it back? |
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10:48.26 | cb400f | sounds strange.. but the menu is a widget.. |
10:48.29 | tuxick | ah toggling a bit helped |
10:49.03 | tuxick | i'm more worried about the way sites manage to make konq use 100% cpu and stop responding anyway |
10:50.06 | tuxick | it's some funky looking osd-alike hack |
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10:56.08 | naiv | how can i tell all my xapplications to use the font deja vu ? |
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11:05.07 | mdik | tuxick: kde3? |
11:06.27 | tuxick | kde4 |
11:07.02 | mdik | killall plasma && plasma |
11:07.02 | tuxick | it's kind of tradition that konq goes mad on trial&errorjavascript |
11:07.27 | mdik | jepp. im a parttime arora-user by now |
11:07.56 | mdik | but its not really good |
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11:10.38 | mdik | tuxick: there is an application called "kquitapp". maybe thats better than simply killall, but i dont know |
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11:18.45 | tuxick | mdik: will try to remember :) |
11:18.52 | tuxick | alt-f1 is gone now anyway |
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11:45.01 | qba | my Plasma Workspace crashed withd signal 8, and is still crashing after reboot with the same signal, any idea, maybe it's known bug ? |
11:45.23 | qba | i didn't have gdb, so no backtrace |
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12:39.35 | mazzachre | I have tried in #gentoo but not really gotten anywhere... I want to install kate on my system, however it seems I need qt-webkit library that again needs phonon, that again needs arts, which is incompatible with any sound output on my system... Is this hard build in, or can I turn it off in the configure scripts (So it should be a USEFLAG in the ebuild) |
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12:44.16 | Jucato | mazzachre: have you tried #gentoo kde? kate shouldn't have anything to do with webkit, and arts shouldn't even be pulled in unless you were building the kde3 version of kate |
12:44.48 | Jucato | er.. #gentoo-kde |
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12:46.15 | mazzachre | Jucato: Ah.. no I have not tried there... no when I try it, it fails with phonon needing backend, when looking into that error it says that I need to have arts as backend(?!) which I don't understand... and I don't want arts (Last time I got it in by accident, it took some serious manual editing of my system to get sound back) |
12:47.13 | Jucato | phonon (which is used by qt4/kde4) should have nothing to do with arts (which is used by kde3 only). sounds like messed up dependencies and USE flags. better check with your distro |
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12:50.55 | mazzachre | Jucato: It does not say it needs arts... just found a page on the interwebs telling me that installing arts would solve that problem (and create a million new...) |
12:51.36 | Jucato | wonders how installing something not used by qt4/kde4 would solve whatever problem... |
12:52.46 | mazzachre | Jucato: I did not try it, so I can't tell you... (I am not going to install arts...) |
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13:00.01 | alecs1 | hi, korgac does not show a system-tray indicator although it is running and the correct option is set in the preferences |
13:00.10 | alecs1 | how could I fix this? |
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13:26.08 | summel | there is a security hole in kde when the screen is locked btw ^^ |
13:26.59 | Mamarok | explain? |
13:27.57 | summel | well when i look the screen it gets black... then when somebody moves the mouse for a short time the actual desktop is showed after it gets black again and displays the locked screen dialog |
13:28.15 | summel | so if somebody would set up a camera he could make a screenshot of the desktop |
13:28.24 | Mamarok | checks |
13:28.35 | summel | (at least with compositing enabled) |
13:28.40 | summel | ill try with it disabled |
13:28.59 | summel | compositing disabled works fine |
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13:29.31 | Mamarok | well, I have compositing enabled and don't see that, do you have a screensaver activated |
13:29.34 | Mamarok | ? |
13:29.39 | summel | no not a screensaver |
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13:29.56 | Mamarok | well, that's why, activate a screensvare, say a blank screen, and try again |
13:30.04 | Mamarok | screensaver* |
13:30.09 | summel | but it should work without needing a screensaver |
13:30.11 | summel | :P |
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13:31.01 | Mamarok | summel: yes it should indeed, care reporting to https://bugs.kde.org? |
13:31.05 | DrSlony | Hey, is there an editor for PO files other than poedit? |
13:31.23 | pinotree | DrSlony: kbabel for kde3, lokalize for kde4; both in the kdesdk module |
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13:31.35 | summel | do i need an account for reporting bugs? |
13:31.40 | pinotree | yes, you do |
13:31.45 | DrSlony | thanks pinotree :) |
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13:31.57 | summel | if yes then i report the bug to my distribution to enable the blank screen screensaver as default? ^^ |
13:32.18 | pinotree | and what does it solve? |
13:32.39 | Mamarok | summel: well, you better report it to KDE directly, so it get's fixed, not all distros report upstream |
13:32.40 | summel | ok :) |
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13:35.54 | summel | is the bug in plasma or what application? |
13:36.01 | TheVirtualVortex | hi, I compiled a plasma widget, and would like to know where I can see the kdebug messages |
13:36.09 | TheVirtualVortex | where is the log file? |
13:36.17 | summel | kwin? |
13:36.47 | pinotree | doesn't matter, can be reassigned later |
13:36.52 | summel | ok |
13:37.01 | pinotree | just choose the generic "kde" |
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13:39.32 | summel | done :) |
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13:41.06 | TheVirtualVortex | kdebug messages, where can I find them? |
13:41.15 | TheVirtualVortex | any idea? |
13:41.26 | TheVirtualVortex | I mean the output |
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13:41.46 | pinotree | how are you starting the applet? adding it in plasma or using plasmoidviewer? |
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13:41.56 | TheVirtualVortex | I just added it in plasma |
13:42.02 | pinotree | ~/.xsession-errors |
13:42.03 | apt | /.xsession-errors is, like, quite common |
13:42.09 | TheVirtualVortex | okay thanks |
13:42.20 | TheVirtualVortex | I also didn´t know there was a plasmoidviewer, which might make it even more convenient :-) |
13:42.59 | summel | hmm but the problem is not fixed with selecting a screensaver |
13:43.00 | summel | bte |
13:43.02 | summel | btw |
13:43.03 | summel | :D |
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13:49.55 | TheVirtualVortex | pinotree: I tried .xsession-errors and the plasmoidviewer, but the kDebug messages don´ t appear |
13:49.55 | TheVirtualVortex | pinotree: is there something like a compile-time option to pass to cmake ? |
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13:51.59 | pinotree | TheVirtualVortex: if you use plain kDebug() without area number, then make sure the area 0 is active in `kdebugdialog` |
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13:54.31 | TheVirtualVortex | pinotree: I see, it works! thanks a lot |
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14:08.56 | TheVirtualVortex | is it a bad coding practice to call a public slot's function directly from the outside ? |
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14:09.52 | TheVirtualVortex | I guess yes, I'll try to emit a signal instead |
14:11.36 | kbalazs | can the kde panel shows the icons in more lines like on windows? |
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14:17.14 | crohakon | how do I turn off the screen saver/power saving stuff in KDE? |
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14:24.11 | mokoloko | With KDE 4.3RC3 can anyone confirm that movin windows gets sluggish with every other deco than oxygen/ozone? Effects are on... |
14:24.41 | mokoloko | http://www.osnews.com/story/21899/KDE_4_3_Shaping_Up_Nicely_KWin_Needs_Work |
14:24.44 | mokoloko | relating to that |
14:25.25 | mokoloko | "My biggest area of concern is still KWin, the fancy compositing window manager. The problem is that performance is still very, very lacking; animations are jittery and slow" |
14:25.59 | summel | mokoloko: i use nitrogen and it works just fine (kde 4.4 svn) |
14:26.10 | summel | but i used 4.3 svn packages before and it also worked |
14:26.20 | mokoloko | i get that too with skulpture and every other than aurorae/oxygen/ozone |
14:26.33 | summel | but it is in general not as "fast" as compiz |
14:26.46 | summel | actually it is, but it doesn't feel that way |
14:26.48 | summel | somehow |
14:26.56 | summel | dont know how to explain |
14:26.57 | mokoloko | yeah but it gets downright sluggish with others compared to oxygen |
14:27.09 | summel | hmm not for me oO |
14:27.15 | debugger | Hmm |
14:27.22 | summel | and i used nitrogen since its first release... so also with kde 4.2 |
14:27.23 | mokoloko | jittery? :P |
14:27.30 | debugger | Compositing is as fast as it can be on my system. |
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14:27.41 | summel | debugger: its also fast on my system... |
14:27.48 | summel | i just remember compiz to feel... faster |
14:27.51 | summel | dont know... |
14:27.52 | summel | ^^ |
14:27.59 | mokoloko | can you try plastik? |
14:28.00 | summel | but i dont like compiz |
14:28.05 | summel | ok one moment |
14:28.13 | farhad_hf | on my system compiz is faster |
14:28.19 | mokoloko | same issue here with that one |
14:28.21 | mokoloko | too |
14:28.32 | kbalazs | can the kde panel shows the icons in more lines like on windows? |
14:28.39 | summel | still as fast as with nitrogen |
14:28.51 | summel | kbalazs: there is a plasmoid for that afaik |
14:28.53 | debugger | Compiz will never be more than a hack. |
14:29.07 | debugger | With ugly and useless plugins. |
14:29.17 | summel | :D |
14:29.35 | debugger | Wow!!! I got a cube with dolphins inside! |
14:29.50 | mokoloko | summel: did it get sluggish with plastik? |
14:29.51 | rubyist | some people like that debugger |
14:29.53 | tuxick | calls greenpeace |
14:29.58 | summel | mokoloko: no |
14:30.20 | mokoloko | curious |
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14:30.20 | mokoloko | maybe its rc bug |
14:30.21 | summel | dolphins are gay sharks |
14:30.22 | summel | :O |
14:30.29 | debugger | :'( |
14:30.38 | kbalazs | summel: do you know it's name? |
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14:30.46 | summel | mokoloko: as i said... i use svn packages... i dont know about RCs ^^ |
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14:30.54 | mokoloko | yeah |
14:30.58 | summel | kbalazs: hmm no sorry.. i just know ive seen it on kde-look.org |
14:31.05 | cb400f | quicklaunch iirc |
14:31.13 | cb400f | assuming the "icons" are app shortcuts |
14:31.17 | kbalazs | summel: thx, I will search for it |
14:31.17 | pelandrit | hello folks |
14:31.24 | mokoloko | if it's fixed in svn then maybe it's fixen in kde 4.3 final |
14:31.28 | summel | cb400f: i think he means taskmanager |
14:31.28 | cb400f | the systray will have two rows if the panel is tall enough... |
14:31.33 | cb400f | ahh |
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14:31.46 | crohakon | How can I turn off the screen saver in kde... it is hindering my hulu time |
14:31.59 | kennethaar | where does kmail store it email? I looked in .kde/share/apps/kmail but can't find any email. I use disconnected imap. |
14:32.17 | kennethaar | Kubuntu 9.04 with KDE RC3 |
14:32.21 | pelandrit | ¿there is some option in kde3.5 that blocks the keyboard?, i had the same accident long time ago but i don't remember now how to fix it |
14:32.46 | amdkan | plz i need help |
14:33.31 | mokoloko | kennethaar: could kubuntu use .kde4? |
14:33.52 | kennethaar | amdkan:Just ask your question. |
14:34.15 | amdkan | thx / can't activate my 3D desktop efect |
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14:35.02 | kennethaar | mokoloko: Nope. Where should the email reside? |
14:35.06 | amdkan | and i am new linux user |
14:35.20 | summel | amdkan: what graphics card? |
14:35.24 | summel | distribution? |
14:35.38 | amdkan | ati raedan 4340 |
14:35.48 | amdkan | fedora 11 |
14:35.52 | summel | hmm |
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14:36.00 | summel | opensource drivers? |
14:36.10 | amdkan | ok |
14:36.47 | kennethaar | amdkan: Menu/Systemsettings/Desktop Check "enable desktop effects" |
14:38.12 | Zarin | mokoloko, does is speed up if you disable the shadow effect? |
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14:38.33 | amdkan | failed and it ask me to chek my x config |
14:40.00 | mokoloko | Zarin: yup and btw im running catalyst 9.7 with radeon 4850 |
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14:40.13 | mokoloko | so it's not nvidia specific |
14:40.23 | Zarin | mokoloko, how much faster is it with the effect disabled? |
14:40.29 | Zarin | mokoloko, I use nVidia and I get 500fps+ |
14:40.39 | Zarin | The other KWin devs also get stupidly fast framerates |
14:40.49 | Zarin | Which is why we cannot really test |
14:40.58 | Zarin | It's "everyone else" that has the problems |
14:41.02 | mokoloko | lets just say it's super smooth with oxygen and jittery with plastik as windeco |
14:41.03 | Zarin | Not us >_< |
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14:41.49 | Zarin | Are you the author of that article or are you just using it as a reference? |
14:42.10 | mokoloko | using it as a reference |
14:42.16 | mokoloko | it made me try skulpture |
14:42.35 | mokoloko | and i found it very sluggish compared to oxygen |
14:43.01 | Zarin | Which is weird since Oxygen has always been the "slowest" decoration since 4.0 :P |
14:43.23 | Zarin | It's usually: "Oxygen slow? Use Plastik" |
14:43.39 | mokoloko | but just to be clear that the issue is the windecoration not the overall theme...i tried skulpture with oxygen as windeco and it was smooth |
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14:43.54 | Zarin | I don't really see how it can be slow with Plastik... unless there is some sort of driver bug that causes slow ARGB -> RGB -> ARGB conversions |
14:44.22 | Zarin | If you can find out any specifics please file a bug reports |
14:44.41 | Zarin | Things just get lost on IRC |
14:44.59 | Zarin | mgraesslin |
14:45.19 | Zarin | has to go for a while. Bbl. |
14:45.28 | mokoloko | awright |
14:45.28 | mgraesslin | Zarin: I probably missed half of the discussion |
14:46.11 | Zarin | mgraesslin, You probably did, but the basic problem is: Any deco other than Oxygen causes slow moving/resizing. |
14:46.41 | mgraesslin | slow moving? That I don't believe :-P |
14:46.51 | mokoloko | arurorae and ozone works great too |
14:47.07 | mgraesslin | well aurorae is known to be the slowest by design(tm) |
14:47.29 | mokoloko | It's as smooth as oxygen here |
14:47.42 | mgraesslin | with RC3? |
14:47.45 | mokoloko | yeah |
14:48.03 | mgraesslin | well things improved as Plasma fixed a caching problem |
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14:48.20 | mgraesslin | nevertheless given the design of Aurorae it cannot be as fast as other decos |
14:48.30 | mokoloko | someone here said moments ago that he/she didn't have this issue with 4.4svn |
14:49.30 | mokoloko | probably not very helpful :D but one confirmed having the same issue that i have |
14:49.33 | farhad_hf | mokoloko: i dont have any problems with moving , but resizing is very laggy :P in 4.4SVN |
14:49.56 | mgraesslin | resizing will always be laggy if we paint the window content |
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14:50.59 | farhad_hf | mgraesslin: why ? |
14:51.20 | mgraesslin | because every step in resizing causes the creation of a new pixmap |
14:51.34 | mgraesslin | this has to be painted and there is the need for a texture from pixmap call |
14:51.57 | mgraesslin | which is not really fast on *some* graphics drivers |
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14:52.46 | farhad_hf | mgraesslin: i want to buy a new graphic card , any suggestions ? |
14:53.13 | mgraesslin | well you can't buy Intel cards, as they don't exist ;-) |
14:53.19 | mgraesslin | so it's Ati or NVIDIA |
14:53.34 | mgraesslin | if you want to use the proprietary driver NVIDIA is probably the better choice |
14:53.51 | mgraesslin | if you want to have at least the chance for an open driver ATI is the only choice |
14:54.02 | cb400f | if you go for ATi you should prolly look for cards owned by the radeonhd devs ;-) |
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14:54.18 | mgraesslin | that's a really good suggestion ;-) |
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14:55.02 | farhad_hf | thanks! :) |
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14:55.44 | mokoloko | well up radeon x1x00 there's 3d accel, radeon hd2xxx+ doesn't have that yet |
14:56.54 | cb400f | sure it's not the other way around now? ;-) |
14:57.20 | cb400f | or are you talking about the free drivers? |
14:57.33 | mokoloko | yeah |
14:57.51 | mokoloko | yeah with catalyst it's other way around :D |
14:58.11 | cb400f | ;-) |
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15:02.59 | summel | catalyst sucks |
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15:03.04 | summel | but opensource drivers also suck |
15:03.09 | summel | so go intel/nvidia |
15:04.07 | pelandrit | ¿there is some option in kde3.5 that blocks the keyboard?, i had the same accident long time ago but i don't remember now how to fix it |
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15:12.17 | darkhamm | what about 4.3.0 stable? |
15:12.50 | cb400f | what about it? .. it was delayed a week for rc3 |
15:13.04 | cb400f | is tagged today.. released officially in a week if nothing goes horribly wrong |
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15:15.54 | darkhamm | cb400f: developers will contnue to work about something (i know the bugs) until the release date? |
15:16.36 | cb400f | nope.. only if major problems arise in late tarball testing |
15:19.17 | darkhamm | cb400f: now you're using it? |
15:19.29 | cb400f | I'm using rc3 |
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15:19.57 | darkhamm | cb400f: i've many many problems with network manager until 4.2.4 |
15:20.04 | darkhamm | something about that? |
15:20.15 | cb400f | it's not part of 4.3 |
15:20.52 | cb400f | still being developed in "playground".. now split into a plasmoid and a "normal" systray app |
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15:21.41 | darkhamm | oh, what's about network management by default? |
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15:59.03 | Kartoffelbrei | Why is it impossible to change my kdm (KDE4) Theme in the System Settings (Menu)? All options are grey, nothing can be clicked. |
15:59.40 | summel | Kartoffelbrei: kdesu systemsettings |
15:59.42 | summel | :) |
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15:59.53 | Kartoffelbrei | What is this? |
16:00.13 | summel | you must be root to change kdm settings |
16:00.27 | Kartoffelbrei | k. |
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16:02.45 | Kartoffelbrei | This did work. :) |
16:02.47 | Kartoffelbrei | Thanks. |
16:02.54 | Kartoffelbrei | <-- Restart KDE. :D |
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16:10.16 | Kartoffelbrei_ | Is there a list of all programms which start every time, KDE 4 starts? |
16:10.29 | Kartoffelbrei_ | A list where I can add some programms? |
16:12.22 | cb400f | in kde >= 4.2 there's an autostart module in systemsettings |
16:12.48 | cb400f | normally sessionmanagement would handle things for you imo though |
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16:13.17 | Kartoffelbrei_ | Why does korganizer start every time? Is it useful, if i don't use it? |
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16:17.34 | |racecar56| | kopete isn't signing into jabber, i'm using kopete 0.12.7 and kde 3.5.10 on debian lenny (it says my password is wrong but it isnt) |
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16:28.52 | ajavid | hello |
16:28.56 | ajavid | is kde3 being updated at all? |
16:29.03 | ajavid | security/bug fix etc.? |
16:29.40 | cb400f | not by kde.. some distros have to still support it for some time |
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16:33.48 | remur_030 | aloha, can a non opensuse kde4 user please test http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/climate-change-obama-administration in konqueror? |
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16:34.29 | ajavid | i see |
16:34.38 | remur_030 | it crashes for me on 4.3rc3 |
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16:35.37 | word | remur_030: worksforme with 4.3rc3 |
16:35.46 | remur_030 | actually any article on guardian.co.uk crashes for me |
16:36.25 | remur_030 | word: thanks |
16:36.30 | word | np ⺠|
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17:38.27 | javimansilla | How do I have to do in order to make persistent my configurations on konsole profiles? |
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17:43.47 | hallowname | javimansilla: right click -> edit current profile -> modifymodifymodify -> ok ? stays here. distro bug? |
17:44.26 | javimansilla | hallowname: actually, what it's not stored is the "show in menu" boolean, as well as the shortcut for open it |
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17:46.57 | hallowname | javimansilla: odd. my konsole menu remembers its state. in between konsole processes anyway. on trunk? a new user does the same? |
17:47.53 | javimansilla | hallowname: no trunk. I'm on ubuntu jaunty, and the same problem came with previous ubuntu. I should try with another user anyway. |
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17:58.22 | Marchitos | where can i find oxygen icon set in svg format? |
17:59.36 | hallowname | kdesupport/oxygen-icons/scalable |
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18:11.12 | idyle | My auto hiding side panel won't unhide in kubuntu! When I mouse over it, I just see a tiny sliver of it, like it's empty, and can't click on it or configure it or anything! |
18:11.45 | Simkin | idyle: what version of kde is that? |
18:11.47 | Simkin | 4.x or 3.x ? |
18:11.48 | idyle | this after I rebooted btw that it won't show...I just made my bottom panel autohide and it's working fine |
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18:11.53 | idyle | 4.3 I think? |
18:11.58 | idyle | kubuntu karmic koala |
18:12.05 | Simkin | maybe try deleting the panel and adding it back in? |
18:12.16 | idyle | I can't! I can't get it to show back up! |
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18:12.30 | idyle | I just see a tiny little edge of it when I go near the bottom or top of it |
18:12.58 | idyle | should I take a screenshot? |
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18:13.05 | Simkin | i think so |
18:13.11 | Simkin | i have to go though |
18:13.11 | Simkin | but i'm sure someone else can help |
18:14.39 | idyle | Simkin: ok thanks for your help! |
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18:18.02 | idyle | Ok, here's what happens when I mouse over the left sidebar that should be unhiding: http://www.2shared.com/file/6886587/e106412d/snapshot1.html |
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18:33.30 | AntiXpucT | hi there |
18:33.38 | AntiXpucT | any devs here? |
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18:34.58 | debugger | AntiXpucT: You could try the dev channel. |
18:35.08 | AntiXpucT | i want to bump bug about konsole's kpart |
18:35.46 | debugger | Then just fill a bug report. |
18:36.05 | AntiXpucT | it is already filled half year ago |
18:36.11 | AntiXpucT | and don't fixed |
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18:53.10 | mariovazq | When compiling kde 4.2.98, which phonon should I use. The one included in kde-qt (qt-copy) or the phonon available in gitorius? |
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18:54.53 | MoDaX | mariovazq: qt one is fine |
18:55.25 | mariovazq | ty |
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19:02.22 | gorgonzola | hello... i have a dolphin specific question, but since i didn't find a dolphin channel, i'll ask here: is it possible to make dolphin remember preview size settings for a dir and subdirs? |
19:02.51 | gorgonzola | ie, have a photo dir appear with bigger thumbs than the regular thumb size for dirs by default, everytime |
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19:08.13 | shafqat_ | gorgonzola: from my limited knowledge i don't think it is possible. What you could do is have different view properties for each folder and then manually set the view for each folder so that next time you see them they will have previews. Or you could put this up on brainstorm.forum.kde.org to have the devs implement it :) |
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19:10.04 | gorgonzola | shafqat_ : well, the thing is i can make dolphin show the pics folder as icons with previews, but the preview size setging (the little mag dial below the main window) seems to be a global per-session setting for dolphin. i thought myabe you could specifiy a preview size in .directory files, but i wouldn't know how to do it. i'll check it in brainstorm anyway. thanks! |
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19:11.09 | shafqat_ | no problem :). good luck! |
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19:21.19 | DillyCat | anyone know how to disable the splash screen? I tried via control center but that doesnt work |
19:22.07 | DillyCat | im running FreeBSD ...how do I check which version of kde I'm running? |
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19:27.54 | DillyCat | the version of kde is 4.2.2 |
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19:29.32 | DillyCat | hmmm. control center is reporting the wrong version of kde... could that be the reason that no changes get applied? |
19:29.35 | gorgonzola | DillyCat: whcih splash? kdm's? |
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19:30.04 | DillyCat | the splash screen that's displayed when you are logging in.. |
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19:33.25 | anoneemouse | hi... what can i use to sync my nokia n80 with kontact? |
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19:34.08 | anoneemouse | on kubuntu kde 4.2 |
19:35.15 | mariovazq | DillyCat, launch System Settings. Go to Appearance -> Splash Screen |
19:37.12 | mariovazq | DillyCat, since I havent done that previously, I have no idea if you can change that as a regular user, or need to execute System Settings as root |
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19:40.46 | DillyCat | mariovazq...tried that but didn't work... is there a file I can edit? |
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19:46.39 | pelandrit | ¿there is some option in kde3.5 that blocks the keyboard?, i had the same accident long time ago but i don't remember now how to fix it |
19:46.40 | bullgard4 | Where can I find a comprehensive description of the functionality of the KDE Notification Daemon? 'man knotify4' is insufficient. |
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19:54.01 | pinotree | bullgard4: what do you have to do? |
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19:58.50 | bullgard4 | pinotree: To decide if I can safely de-assert the Graphical login manager (kdm) service: My major graphical login manager is gdm and is asserted, and I am using only one KDE program (Kexi). |
19:59.06 | gnufied | I just upgraded to KDE 4.3RC3 on my laptop running kubuntu 9.04 and KWin is not loading when starting the desktop. |
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19:59.28 | pinotree | bullgard4: what does knotify have to do with gdm? |
19:59.54 | gnufied | I get gnome window decoration and none of the global shortcuts work and stuff |
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20:00.53 | gnufied | oh wow, looks like KDE is starting metacity! |
20:01.41 | bullgard4 | pinotree: Before I answer your question, please answer my question. |
20:02.09 | pinotree | bullgard4: i'm trying to understand what is your real issue |
20:02.37 | gnufied | kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI26KDecorationFactoryUnstable |
20:02.51 | gnufied | is the error when I try to start kwin manually from command line. |
20:02.53 | mgraesslin | gnufied: which decoration are you using |
20:03.16 | bullgard4 | pinotree: I tried to lay down my issue. Did I use imprecise terminology? |
20:03.56 | gnufied | mgraesslin, I tried plastique (before it was ozone) |
20:04.17 | pinotree | bullgard4: no, you didn't explain what is your real issue; want to known what knotify4 does, but then you say you want to change login manager |
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20:04.33 | mgraesslin | I don't know of any deco called plastique, but please try another one ;-) |
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20:05.07 | gnufied | mgraesslin, I meant Plastik |
20:05.21 | reavertm | gnufied: do you have more than one KDE4 installed? |
20:05.56 | gnufied | reavertm, I might have still KDE 4.2.4 packages installed around if apt-get upgrade didn't update properly. |
20:06.41 | reavertm | you could try wiping ~/,config/Trolltech.conf - it stores info about qt plugins (qt lpugin loader apparently uses this) and qt4 doesn't really support yet mulitple KDE4's |
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20:07.52 | reavertm | (there's bug with qtpluginpath order that could mess here, I haven't investigated enough yet to be certain though) |
20:08.13 | hallowname | gnufied: kubuntu issue i think... any kde4 packages on an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ? |
20:08.20 | hallowname | gnufied: do you hand compile anything? |
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20:10.34 | gnufied | hallowname, no I didn't hand compile anything. |
20:11.17 | hallowname | gnufied: kubuntu fail then. have you 'dist-upgrade'ed all the way? and have a clean apt? |
20:12.24 | gnufied | i think the problem is, I had KDE 4.2.4 installed from kubuntu-ppa and then for upgrading to kde 4.3 I disabled that source and added kubuntu backports. After adding kubuntu backports repo, when I did apt-get update, it showed up 58 4.2.4 kde updates as well (but under blocked updates) and 25 updates for kde 4.3 RC3 |
20:12.58 | gnufied | this is kubuntu FAIL |
20:13.06 | pinotree | gnufied: you should ask in #kubuntu |
20:13.31 | hallowname | gnufied: i had to stop using package distros =/ they always fail when i really need them... |
20:14.07 | gnufied | pinotree, I will. trouble is my working machine is dysfunctional now! |
20:15.00 | hallowname | gnufied: does 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' exit cleanly? if so. thats a pretty funny failure. ;D |
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20:15.35 | MoDaX | gnufied: 1) you got yourself in trouble messing with backports 2) complain in #kubuntu |
20:15.36 | gnufied | hallowname, I will poke around for a while, before doing that. |
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20:17.52 | gnufied | MoDaX, agreed. |
20:17.57 | bullgard4 | pinotree: The KDE Notification Daemon is a program. In order to make good use of a program a user needs a manual of this program. A manual is also called a 'program description'. The authors of 'man knotify4' have done a work of poor quality. 'man knotify' does not explain the purpose and usage of this program for a user. 'man knotify' lacks of didactics. |
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20:18.35 | pinotree | bullgard4: you don't need to "make use of knotify4", as it is an helper application to handle notifications |
20:18.36 | MoDaX | bullgard4: user never interacts with knotify4 directly |
20:18.49 | pinotree | bullgard4: you don't even need to know it exists |
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20:19.18 | pinotree | bullgard4: and still, knotify4 is completely unrelated to either kdm or gdm. |
20:20.09 | hallowname | bullgard4: you want to make kde notifications? like via dbus? |
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20:20.41 | theduz | Hello, I'm trying to figure out the correct way of removing the trash icon from a kiosk type setup. I'm using kde 3.5.1. Each time I login under one of the kiosk user profiles, the trash icon keeps getting re-created. |
20:20.42 | ctx144k | hello all... |
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20:21.17 | mariovazq | gnufied, sometimes making an upgrade of that size (like KDE) can bring some packaging issues. You can try (that worked fine with me after a similar issue in Arch), to remove all kde 4.2.x packages and then reinstall 4.2.98 |
20:22.15 | gnufied | mariovazq, I am doing a dist-upgrade, looks like it may work. |
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20:22.52 | bullgard4 | hallowname: No, I don't, at least not directly. But I'd like to know what the function of knotify4 is. There are processes running on my computer related to knotify. I'd like to understand them better. |
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20:23.06 | ctx144k | iam not sure that iam in the right channel for my problem... iam using kde4.3 rc2 under standard kubuntu9.04 (changed to iso8859-15) - i need a "mute" key-definition for muting my soundcard ... i defined that under systemsettings->keyboard->global->kmix |
20:23.18 | genewbie | another RC release |
20:23.53 | ctx144k | STRG+ALT+M - but when i press that keys ill see only the current noisy-settings as OSD |
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20:24.20 | ctx144k | i have a creative audigy2 soundcard |
20:24.24 | bullgard4 | MoDaX: I do not intend to interact with knotify4 directly. Still, I'd like to know how knotify4 functions. |
20:25.05 | MoDaX | bullgard4: you can always read the source code |
20:25.12 | hallowname | bullgard4: strace? lol. it handles a lot of behind the scenes communication. to see how it works the code is probably the best documentation.. |
20:25.13 | ctx144k | i had that problem this problem in privious kubuntu-versions and under suse-linux too |
20:25.29 | ctx144k | under gnome its working perfect |
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20:25.45 | MoDaX | since you don't need to use the program directly, manual is pointless |
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20:26.17 | pinotree | (and you shouldn't use it directly, anyway) |
20:26.34 | bullgard4 | pinotree: I admit that knotify is unrelated to either kdm or gdm. My attention was diverted when I wrote that. -- And may I ask you again: "Where can I find a comprehensive description of the functionality of the KDE Notification Daemon? 'man knotify4' is insufficient." |
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20:27.19 | pinotree | bullgard4: given it is an internal helper daemon (nothing that an user should ever see nor interact with), there's no "user manual" |
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20:27.37 | pinotree | bullgard4: the only potential users would be developers, who can just reads its source code |
20:27.50 | troy | ctx144k: this is unrelated to your soundcard, and will be related solely to the keyboard shortcuts |
20:28.06 | bullgard4 | MoDaX: Your statement: "you can always read the source code" is not helpful. I knew that before you wrote this message. |
20:28.26 | troy | ctx144k: please go to the KDE keyboard module in system settings and see if your keyboard is listed... |
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20:29.35 | pinotree | bullgard4: as i said before, it handles part of the kde notifications, ie beeps, sounds, taskbar flashing, popups, etc, for events |
20:29.50 | pinotree | bullgard4: that's all the "user description" |
20:29.58 | troy | ctx144k: if the keyboard is set correctly, and it still fails, you might have the same key defined for multiple actions (or similar problem) |
20:30.20 | ctx144k | troy, i think there is another problem |
20:30.40 | ctx144k | troy, the mute-function issent work correct with my soundcard |
20:30.43 | bullgard4 | hallowname: I do not know why you are laughing out loud when someone asks for a complete user manaual of a program. |
20:30.45 | ctx144k | (i think) |
20:30.48 | troy | ctx144k: on my computer, I had to go into kmix and change some shortcuts, since it was muting the wrong channel |
20:31.10 | ctx144k | ah... |
20:31.10 | MoDaX | bullgard4: complaining is not helpful either |
20:31.10 | troy | ctx144k: so instead of muting master, I set it to mute DCM or whatever your soundcard calls it |
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20:31.23 | ctx144k | ok - how can i change that? |
20:31.26 | genewbie | so KDE 4.3 release was extended 7 more days?? |
20:31.34 | MoDaX | genewbie: yes |
20:31.37 | genewbie | =( |
20:31.41 | troy | ctx144k: open kmix, find the configure shortcuts option in the menu |
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20:32.31 | MoDaX | genewbie: releases slip for years, a week is not a big deal |
20:33.56 | genewbie | MoDaX, yeah i'm not worried. i just wanted to try out the new version already. |
20:34.12 | genewbie | i dont want the rcs or betas |
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20:35.11 | troy | genewbie: rc3 is pretty close to final - just with fewer distro packages floating around |
20:35.42 | genewbie | troy, yeah, but i'd rather wait for the final release. |
20:38.45 | ctx144k | troy, hmmm... it doesnt work... it shows only the current value as OSD, but no muting |
20:38.52 | troy | genewbie: even though the release date is later, it's probably actually available earlier - we tag about a week before releasing so that the distros have a chance to build/test |
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20:43.09 | ctx144k | hmm... it wouldbe ok to define something like that global in the complete system - a script whoch would call "amixer -c 0 set Master,0 0%" |
20:43.27 | ctx144k | but i have no idea how to set that |
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20:44.46 | troy | ctx144k: I used to do that by defining a .desktop file someplace (same like an app launcher link), but hiding it somewhere in the app menu where it won't bother anyone |
20:45.13 | troy | not sure if that trick still works |
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20:48.49 | ctx144k | troy, ahh i have a idea... a little shellscript, via button in task-line |
20:49.12 | ctx144k | troy, thx |
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20:52.22 | Simkin | what is the application that loads up in the system tray with the little "I" on it in a bubble? |
20:52.25 | Simkin | i need to kill it |
20:52.31 | Simkin | but i don't want to kill th entire systray |
20:52.42 | Simkin | and i'm afraid ctrl-alt-esc would kill the entire systray |
20:52.48 | nilsson | its the notification daemon |
20:53.00 | nilsson | not sure exactly what it's called though |
20:53.38 | bullgard4 | pinotree: Thank you for your help. |
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20:57.39 | theduz | Hello, is there some way to tell kde to never put a trash icon on the desktop? I've been fiddling around with it all day, but no success so far. |
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20:58.28 | gdebure | theduz: kde4 ? |
20:58.35 | theduz | sorry, kde 3.5.1 |
20:59.02 | gdebure | theduz: Ah... that's too far away for my poor memory, sorry ;-) |
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20:59.48 | theduz | hmm, it must be old then |
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21:02.43 | gdebure | Well, I think the latest kde 3.5 stable is 3.5.10 ! |
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21:04.19 | ctx144k | troy, is working as key-board defintion great, too :-) |
21:04.22 | theduz | Its a SLES 10 sp2 box. SLES is generally "behind the times" and not very cutting edge |
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21:10.34 | mariovazq | what version of qmageblitz may work best with kde 4.2.98? Version 0.0.5 is the highest I can find anhywhere |
21:10.58 | mariovazq | I'm building it from source and dont want to screw anything, lol |
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21:11.58 | mariovazq | Opps I mean qimageblitz |
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21:16.53 | margiolas | ti akribos? |
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21:17.08 | margiolas | oups sorry wrong channel |
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21:22.40 | Mirrakor | anyone knows if there's a port for kmymoney planned? |
21:23.45 | DaZ | ask devs? |
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21:28.28 | hallowname | Mirrakor: i think so. i remember reading something along those lines. i dont think its complete. or very far along. idk tho. :) |
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21:29.11 | Mirrakor | hallowname: I just got the information that it seems to be somewhere in playground |
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21:50.35 | slack_baphomet | anyone know of any apps for kde that will let me import old camcorder footage through svideo jack ? |
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22:06.51 | oblenob | Hi :) |
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22:14.53 | nilsson | newb question: what is the purpose of the button in the top left corner of window decorations? |
22:15.07 | kdepepo | nilsson, the menu? |
22:15.22 | nilsson | no, the dot |
22:15.28 | kdepepo | nilsson, sticky ... "keep on any desktop". |
22:16.03 | kdepepo | if you have no need, you can remove it :) |
22:16.09 | nilsson | how? |
22:16.33 | kdepepo | systemsettings->Appearance->windows->buttons then drag it back to the list |
22:16.39 | funkyou | hmmm, sometimes when i open the kmix systray mixer i cant close it anymore. i need to open kmix via the systray to make it disappear. someone experienced the same? iam on 4.3 rc3 |
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22:17.45 | cb400f | funkyou: I did.. seems to me that right click on the kmix icon makes it go away again.. but a bit annoying |
22:17.46 | nilsson | kdepepo: thanks |
22:17.50 | nilsson | kdepepo++ |
22:18.47 | funkyou | cb400f: yes, thats what i mean, and the right click only works sometimes... guess i'll file a bug now, thanks |
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22:19.37 | cb400f | I take comfort knowing that the major distros won't ship it for another 3-4 months, so.. :-) |
22:20.39 | funkyou | well, its one of the _very_ few bugs i have experienced on 4.3 so far, and all others are already reported or fixed :) |
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22:24.18 | Nahual | As per the MOTD, I am running KDE 4.2.4 on Fedora 11 and I my query pertains to Specific Window Settings, I have a few of them working but whenever I try to set my transparency for Konsole to 90% it seems to fail to recognize any of the window matching features. I know when I detect the window it says qt-application konsole, but if I match just the specific application class it says Konsole. Is there a way to get this working? Pidgin ones |
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23:17.02 | Vegita | kde 4.3.61 realy rocks (4.4alpha3 I think) keep upthe good work |
23:17.25 | pinotree | 4.4alpha3? no, it is pure svn version |
23:17.34 | Vegita | btw I laughed at the name "kapman" when I saw the games installing from the "unstable" |
23:17.44 | Vegita | 4.4 svnrelease3 then |
23:17.49 | pinotree | noo |
23:17.49 | Vegita | will it be more instable? |
23:17.52 | Vegita | if nt, that rock |
23:17.57 | pinotree | it is not a release :) |
23:18.13 | Vegita | if this is unstable,I keep getting updates |
23:18.26 | Vegita | but now it'sthat stable I can unpipe the unstable tag |
23:18.42 | pinotree | keep it as unstable, please |
23:18.50 | Vegita | I know |
23:18.53 | Vegita | not that |
23:19.03 | Vegita | but it will become only more stable? |
23:19.12 | Vegita | or it can get more unstable now? |
23:19.19 | pinotree | it can get even more unstable |
23:19.22 | Vegita | I have the suse-unstable kde-livecd |
23:19.35 | Vegita | well, so I'd better not allow mre updates |
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23:19.42 | Vegita | if I like this svn version? |
23:19.51 | Vegita | from the unstable repo? |
23:20.09 | Vegita | i wanted 4.3.96 but accidentally, the trunk svn started to install |
23:20.16 | Vegita | *4.2.96 |
23:21.07 | Vegita | anyway, this is the best version I've seen yet (4.3.61) |
23:21.32 | Vegita | much better then 4.2.4, and still better then 4.2.96 imho |
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23:25.10 | Pliskin | Vegita : can you give som examples of improvements ? |
23:25.26 | Vegita | everything comes in lightning fast |
23:25.35 | Vegita | faster imho then in 4.2.96 |
23:25.56 | Vegita | dolphin, konsole, konqueror and ksysguard opens as you click |
23:26.03 | Vegita | dolphin has a new feature |
23:26.19 | Vegita | if you g on a folder with your mouse, it opensina small widget |
23:26.23 | Vegita | *go |
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23:26.43 | Vegita | it only works in desktop view, but surprisingly fast ad stable |
23:26.48 | Vegita | *and |
23:27.06 | mokoloko | it's also in 4.3 |
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23:27.33 | Vegita | wellI didn't remember well, or it ws turned offin fedora |
23:27.46 | Vegita | now I'm using a suse-based unstable kde-livecd |
23:28.02 | Vegita | exacly installed from a live cd |
23:28.03 | Pliskin | it was turned off in kubuntu too |
23:28.11 | mokoloko | i use fedora and it isn't turned off here |
23:28.14 | Pliskin | but you can enable it |
23:28.36 | Vegita | thereis a new game: kapman |
23:28.48 | Vegita | that's not an important upgrade, I know |
23:29.17 | Pliskin | are there new features in plasma ? |
23:29.20 | pinotree | kapman is in kde 4.2 as well... |
23:29.32 | Vegita | Ididn1t have it, I'm sure |
23:29.42 | pinotree | your fault, it is here |
23:29.46 | Vegita | in 43 i don't know if I have it |
23:29.49 | pinotree | we shipped it |
23:30.25 | Vegita | okay.) |
23:30.57 | Vegita | well, not too much new features,but it's more stable and my load av is lower, maybe feature are now about to workout |
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23:32.06 | Vegita | when I said it rocks, I thought about being faster, and konqueror freezed on a gsmarena page since kde 4.2.4, and now it doesn't |
23:32.25 | Vegita | it even freezed in 4.3.60 |
23:33.05 | Pliskin | ok, thanks :) |
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23:33.21 | Vegita | np |
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