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| 00:43.38 | Rabid | I have managed to configure kppp to connect to the Internet. but /etc/ gets flushed every boot as it is a live CD. So I have to set it up every time which is hassle. Can someone help me understand what is going on so I can automate this? |
| 00:44.34 | Rabid | I guess if I knew which config files get modified when I set it up, I could just create a script that repopulate these files and launches kppp, and execute the script everytime I start up |
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| 00:45.54 | Rabid | so if I were to configure and launch KPPP then immediately list all the files in all subfolders of /etc/ in order of last access, I could see what has been fiddled |
| 00:46.22 | Rabid | I am hoping nothing outside of /etc would be touched... is that fair to assume? |
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| 02:38.41 | Driv3r912 | Does anyone know about this theme -- PLEASE, I |
| 02:38.48 | Driv3r912 | I've asked several times now: |
| 02:38.57 | Driv3r912 | http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg |
| 02:39.08 | Driv3r912 | It's Oxygen. |
| 02:39.28 | Driv3r912 | In openSUSE 11.1 -- they use a theme similar to this, with blue scrollbars and such. |
| 02:39.44 | Driv3r912 | Is there any way I can get this theme for my KDE Kubuntu System? |
| 02:42.29 | murrant | oxygen? should be there no matter what, it has been around since 4.0 |
| 02:44.17 | murrant | it has changed slightly since then though |
| 02:44.47 | Driv3r912 | I know -- for some reason, openSUSE 11.1 has a version of Oxygen that has blue scrollbars and progress bars. |
| 02:44.59 | Driv3r912 | I am using KDE 4 |
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| 03:05.16 | fg56lx | How do I make the desktop act like a normal desktop (like in kde3 |
| 03:05.58 | Jucato | fg56lx: right-click on desktop -> Appearance Settings -> then choose Type: Folder View |
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| 03:06.43 | fg56lx | Jucato: Thanks,. |
| 03:07.49 | Ishmayeck | hey guys, is it still not possible to use the Win key as a modifier for keyboard shortcuts? |
| 03:09.08 | Jucato | like Win+T? |
| 03:09.16 | Ishmayeck | yeah |
| 03:09.27 | Ishmayeck | (latest stable kde4 by the way) |
| 03:09.29 | Jucato | I use it all that time. |
| 03:09.33 | Ishmayeck | hmmmm |
| 03:09.34 | Jucato | since 4.0 |
| 03:09.39 | Jucato | using 4.2.4 now |
| 03:09.39 | Ishmayeck | http://www.nabble.com/KDE4:-Cannot-use-Windows-key-for-shortcuts-td14842520.html |
| 03:09.41 | Ishmayeck | this happens to me. |
| 03:11.25 | Ishmayeck | hmm... except, xev sees it as "Multi_key" and not "Super_L" like in that post... |
| 03:11.32 | Ishmayeck | could my keymap be screwed up? |
| 03:11.39 | murrant | Driv3r912: hmm, they probably modified it. You could get the style and compile/isntall it manually |
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| 03:12.14 | murrant | also, they changed the scrollbars since then, they are just grey now |
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| 03:17.50 | Ishmayeck | I may have just figured it out, my win key was set as the compose key in my keyboard layout >_< |
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| 03:37.26 | Nameless_au | the page http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/index.html isn' loading - do you know something i don't? |
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| 03:37.54 | Nameless_au | well it loads but loads blank |
| 03:40.23 | Ishmayeck | alright, I figured it out, my keymap was fine but the keyboard layout switcher was changing my win key to a compose key. It works now :) |
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| 03:46.10 | Jucato | Nameless_au: looks like their in the middle of transitioning the stable docs from 4.2 to 4.3 |
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| 03:47.10 | Nameless_au | Jucato: i'll read the user guide for now - tnx neway |
| 03:47.28 | Jucato | Nameless_au: you should have the FAQ installed on your system anyway |
| 03:47.33 | Jucato | KHelpCenter |
| 03:48.15 | Nameless_au | Jucato: oh cool, thanks! |
| 03:49.32 | Nameless_au | 3.3. |
| 03:49.32 | Nameless_au | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.33 | Nameless_au | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.37 | Nameless_au | LOL |
| 03:49.55 | Jucato | heh yeah. patches/contributions are welcome :) |
| 03:50.03 | Nameless_au | ok then, the faq knows something my system doesnt |
| 03:50.05 | Jucato | (it's the same content on the site anyway) |
| 03:50.49 | Nameless_au | Jucato: one day i'll be a millionaire, and i will contribute money for one person to maintain the faq. |
| 03:51.16 | Nameless_au | it will be my one contribution to the open source community |
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| 03:52.33 | Jucato | why wait to be a millionaire? you can help write now, right? :) |
| 03:53.20 | Nameless_au | Jucato: not now, i am a total newb to kde mate... i literally installed it before i went to sleep, and now i'm trying to use it |
| 03:53.36 | Jucato | :) |
| 03:54.05 | Nameless_au | so i apologise in advance for stupid questions - but i am doing the right thing, i am reading the documentation |
| 03:54.14 | Jucato | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/guide.php and http://techbase.kde.org/Welcome_to_KDE_TechBase might help |
| 03:54.36 | Jucato | hm. techbase seemse to be slow at the moment though |
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| 03:55.06 | Nameless_au | pfft forget techbase, i'll be happy to show my wireless on the task manager thanks lol |
| 03:55.15 | Nameless_au | lol* |
| 03:55.22 | Jucato | er sorry |
| 03:55.30 | Jucato | I meant http://userbase.kde.org |
| 03:55.38 | Nameless_au | ah ok |
| 03:55.50 | Jucato | most distros ship with a wireless manager. best to ask in your distro's channel about that |
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| 04:25.00 | Nameless_au | how do you autostart a program in the kde? |
| 04:26.42 | murrant | Nameless_au: add an entry in the autostart section in systemsettings |
| 04:26.48 | murrant | (it's under advanced) |
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| 04:28.19 | Nameless_au | murrant: ok found it. in it i have 2 named files disabled (this is correct - i disabled them), the rest have no name against them and only one is enabled |
| 04:28.27 | Nameless_au | what is going on? |
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| 04:33.42 | Nameless_au | murrant: http://imagebin.ca/view/GGV_Kjw3.html |
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| 04:38.27 | murrant | hmm, not sure, see what you have in ~/.config/autostart |
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| 04:57.03 | Nameless_au | hi. anyone here that has used xfce as well as kde before? this is a themes related question |
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| 04:59.02 | Nameless_au | can i get kde looking like this? (dont look at the transparency) : http://imagebin.ca/view/MpS7qWE.html |
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| 05:10.44 | murrant | I'm pretty sure you could get close (not talking about themes) add a second panel and move widgets around/add widgets and icons to the panels... |
| 05:11.23 | murrant | night |
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| 05:16.25 | yoga | My task manager does not show any task, I just upgard to KDE 4.3 RC1. Any idea? |
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| 05:25.17 | DaZ | yoga: stask? |
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| 05:27.05 | yoga | DaZ: The Task Manage on the Panel. |
| 05:27.21 | DaZ | default? |
| 05:27.24 | DaZ | works for me. |
| 05:27.48 | DaZ | backup ~/.kde and remove it |
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| 05:30.04 | Nameless_au | is it possible to add thunar as a widget on my panel? |
| 05:30.51 | DaZ | Nameless_au: wtf? |
| 05:31.12 | Nameless_au | hey im a newb to kde go easy |
| 05:31.45 | DaZ | i don't know what you want to do |
| 05:32.03 | DaZ | besides dolphin>thunar |
| 05:32.11 | Nameless_au | ok my understanding is that the buttons on the panels are widgets, right? |
| 05:32.21 | DaZ | yes |
| 05:32.29 | Nameless_au | i want to add one that starts thunar |
| 05:33.06 | DaZ | Nameless_au: kmenu, find thunar and pull it onto the desktop |
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| 05:33.11 | DaZ | and on panel |
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| 05:36.38 | Nameless_au | DaZ: i got it on desktop, cant get it on top panel |
| 05:36.58 | DaZ | works for me [; |
| 05:37.34 | Nameless_au | drsktop=plasma dashboard... can u tell me how i get that desktop folder thing on my plasma again? it's disappeared on me! |
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| 05:37.51 | DaZ | folderview? |
| 05:38.29 | DaZ | asking about basics isn't nice, you know <: |
| 05:38.39 | Nameless_au | i told u i was a noob |
| 05:38.46 | Nameless_au | sorry, but i am lost |
| 05:38.49 | Nameless_au | totally |
| 05:38.57 | DaZ | why |
| 05:40.12 | Nameless_au | folder view, you sweet thing you! |
| 05:40.21 | Nameless_au | DaZ: thanks mate! |
| 05:40.34 | DaZ | you're welcome x; |
| 05:41.24 | Nameless_au | ok i did get it to drag on to the panel - i didnt realise i had to unlock it or whatever that thing does |
| 05:41.31 | Nameless_au | i'll get it one day |
| 05:41.48 | Nameless_au | i'm liking it more and more if it makes the pain worthwile :) |
| 05:42.08 | DaZ | [; |
| 05:42.08 | Nameless_au | i come from xfce originally, i liked that |
| 05:44.31 | Nameless_au | look im not trolling, but it is my observation so far that alot of the themes online and in here by default are very, well, macOS X like. is this a fair statement? |
| 05:45.49 | DaZ | qt styles are very configurable |
| 05:48.38 | Nameless_au | does kde allow one to install gtk-2.0 themes? |
| 05:48.44 | DaZ | yes |
| 05:48.44 | DaZ | [; |
| 05:48.52 | DaZ | you need qstyle |
| 05:48.56 | Nameless_au | oh you bloody ripper, best news in days! |
| 05:49.24 | Nameless_au | from apt-get? |
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| 05:49.44 | DaZ | or it wasn't called qstyle.. |
| 05:50.02 | Jucato | gtk-qt-engine (or whatever it's called in your distro) |
| 05:50.04 | DaZ | qgtkstyle* |
| 05:50.13 | DaZ | Jucato: wrong |
| 05:50.15 | Jucato | oh that one |
| 05:50.25 | Nameless_au | i'll search with apt |
| 05:50.42 | Jucato | well, I can't imagine people wanting to make beautiful Qt/KDE apps look like GTK :) |
| 05:50.53 | Jucato | so I get the wrong one :P |
| 05:50.57 | DaZ | Jucato++ |
| 05:51.31 | Jucato | Nameless_au: last I checked, Apple didn't have any patent on "bright/white" themes. :) |
| 05:51.46 | Nameless_au | i'm in love with one of their themes, and i wanna run compiz with it |
| 05:51.55 | Jucato | (and afaik the official look of OS X is brushed metal, while Oxygen aims for a white marble look) |
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| 05:52.06 | andreas_ | I think it was the other way around where Gtk apps were made possible to look like KDE ones |
| 05:52.09 | DaZ | kwin compositing > compiz |
| 05:52.32 | Nameless_au | andreas_: i agree the widgets etc look better in kde, i'm impressed |
| 05:52.33 | Jucato | yeah, silly Trolltech creating qgtkstyle :( |
| 05:52.49 | andreas_ | meeh I love my KDE xompositing ts much more fluid than compiz |
| 05:52.53 | Nameless_au | the window themes however leave something to be desired - however, that is my opinion only |
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| 05:52.58 | DaZ | Jucato: brushed metal style is for a few apps |
| 05:53.43 | Nameless_au | what is kwin compositing? |
| 05:54.10 | DaZ | Nameless_au: systemsettings -> desktop |
| 05:54.11 | Jucato | Nameless_au: kwin's own desktop effects |
| 05:54.27 | DaZ | runs on ViRGE |
| 05:54.31 | DaZ | [; |
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| 05:57.17 | Nameless_au | i looked for qgtkstyle in apt, no go |
| 05:58.19 | Nameless_au | i searched for style got this : http://pastebin.ca/1487834 |
| 05:58.45 | Jucato | you'll have to ask your distro about it. maybe they don't have it packaged yet. though I think it is part of Qt in one release (or in a future release?) |
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| 06:03.03 | Sho_ | wohoo KDE! |
| 06:03.06 | Sho_ | sorry, it came over me |
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| 06:22.24 | Nameless_au | ok i have qtstyles installed, chosen gtk+... now how do i install my gtk theme? |
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| 06:31.48 | cookiemon5ter | Nameless_au I use x11-themes/gtk-theme-switch |
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| 06:44.43 | MaNI | In word pad on windows if you have a string 0x... hilight it and push ctrl+x it will convert it into the unicode character it represents, does anyone know a way I can do something similar in kate? |
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| 06:49.08 | KhaaL | hi, is this the place to discuss kde bugs? |
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| 06:53.18 | Shirakawasuna | MaNI: try #koffice |
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| 06:53.31 | MaNI | okay thanks |
| 06:53.38 | Shirakawasuna | KhaaL: you can, sure. You might be redirected to the main bugs.kde.org site, depends on the issue. |
| 06:54.10 | KhaaL | Shirakawasuna, ok, great! thing is i just started testing out kde 4.3 RC and I have already got into some reoccurent bugs |
| 06:54.22 | Shirakawasuna | there's also #kde-devel, although I"m not sure if I'm supposed to direct you there ;) |
| 06:54.44 | KhaaL | hehe, something with that "devel" tells me the same ;> |
| 06:54.48 | Shirakawasuna | KhaaL: the first thing anyone will tell you is this: have you searched bugs.kde.org to see if there's already bugs for them opened? |
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| 06:55.21 | KhaaL | Shirakawasuna, i tried, but that trackers looks like a *mess*. Haven't used the kde tracker before and i fouund it confusing... |
| 06:55.25 | Shirakawasuna | KDE development moves *very* fast, too, and they'll probably ask you to use trunk to be sure it's still there. |
| 06:55.52 | Shirakawasuna | KhaaL: there's just huge gobs of bugs, it's hard to find things unless you're very careful or google it. |
| 06:56.23 | Shirakawasuna | KhaaL: I'm trying to save you some trouble, here :). I'm no dev, but you'll be asked the same questions, maybe in a bit crankier of a fashion, if you ask certain devs. |
| 06:56.59 | KhaaL | Ah, yeah well i know how some devs can be... hehe |
| 06:57.12 | Shirakawasuna | KhaaL: my rule of thumb: if I spend 15 minutes googling and searching bugs.kde.org and have checked #<mydistro>, I open a new bug. |
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| 06:58.01 | KhaaL | Shirakawasuna, great idea. do you use some particular switches or keywords in google when searching bugs? |
| 06:58.10 | KhaaL | to restrict it to kde tracker? |
| 06:58.20 | Shirakawasuna | not in google |
| 06:58.26 | Shirakawasuna | I usually look for forum posts |
| 06:58.35 | KhaaL | oh, alright |
| 06:59.10 | Shirakawasuna | something like this in google: kde phonon flac skip "doesn't work" |
| 06:59.26 | Shirakawasuna | that's how I'd search for the issue amarok was having playing flacs for a while ;) |
| 06:59.33 | Shirakawasuna | (as it's a phonon issue) |
| 06:59.34 | xxtjaxx_ | Hey guys Im haveing a problem there is a external dependency for koffice to build which seems to be called "kdgantt" unfortunately this cant be caught by kdesvn-build and now kofiice refuses to build what to do? |
| 06:59.35 | Jucato | "site:bugs.kde.org <search terms>" |
| 06:59.43 | Jucato | KhaaL: try that ^^^ |
| 07:00.16 | KhaaL | Jucato, will do :) |
| 07:00.25 | KhaaL | Shirakawasuna, i think i already found posts with the issues i had in mind in the forum |
| 07:00.41 | KhaaL | so I'll see if i can add anything to that |
| 07:00.41 | KhaaL | thanks for the help :-) |
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| 07:03.34 | Shirakawasuna | KhaaL: cool! |
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| 07:08.24 | sky_1 | Hi guys |
| 07:08.50 | sky_1 | How i can make glass effect on my panel like on W7 ? |
| 07:09.01 | Zarin_ | Run W7? |
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| 07:09.43 | sky_1 | want have it on my KDE |
| 07:09.52 | Zarin | :) |
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| 07:10.36 | sky_1 | i saw somewhere screens but cant find it |
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| 07:13.07 | sky_1 | how i can make it transparent ? |
| 07:13.07 | cozminsky | So how far away is 4.3? |
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| 07:15.08 | xxtjaxx_ | cozminsky, not much clearly around the corner |
| 07:15.49 | sky_1 | are any look change in 4.3 ? |
| 07:16.04 | xxtjaxx_ | ogh yes |
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| 07:16.20 | xxtjaxx_ | new AIR looks soo slick |
| 07:16.39 | sky_1 | im trying to find new screenshots |
| 07:16.55 | xxtjaxx_ | you can get a hole new video |
| 07:16.58 | cozminsky | I'm still waiting on the menus off a mouse click, looks like it's slated for 4.4 |
| 07:17.34 | sky_1 | xxtjaxx_: where i can see video ? |
| 07:17.41 | xxtjaxx_ | just look at planet.kde.org there you wil find a video froom Aaron Seigo (i think) whch shows the hnew air and plaamsa |
| 07:17.53 | sky_1 | thanks |
| 07:18.35 | xxtjaxx_ | cozminsky, du what? |
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| 07:19.45 | cozminsky | xxtjaxx_, I have a blank desktop in kde3.5, and just use the middle and right mouse buttons |
| 07:20.04 | cozminsky | xxtjaxx_, on the right button I have the KDE menu, and window list on the middle button |
| 07:20.12 | cozminsky | xxtjaxx_, can't do that so far with plasma |
| 07:20.51 | cozminsky | but there is a bug that's flagged for that feature against 4.4 |
| 07:21.15 | xxtjaxx_ | may you can use krunner nd the eyboard for this matters |
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| 07:21.47 | xxtjaxx_ | at+tab = swictch window altF(?) start application etc |
| 07:22.04 | cozminsky | I also had big problems with ktimetracker corrupting itself |
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| 07:22.17 | cozminsky | so downgraded to kde3.5 again |
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| 07:22.35 | xxtjaxx_ | ktimetracker? |
| 07:22.47 | cozminsky | but I think ktimetracker was a regression in 4.2, as it worked fine at one point |
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| 07:23.22 | cozminsky | ktimetracker is upgrade to karm, it is for timesheets, I spent x minutes on task a, etc. |
| 07:24.31 | cozminsky | it uses an ics file as datastore, and it wasn't closing off the events when you switched or stopped a particular task |
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| 07:24.46 | Nameless_au | olk i've changed themes to look like i want them to, no problems - except the top and bottom panel are still blue. how/where do i change this? |
| 07:24.53 | Nameless_au | ok* |
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| 07:25.55 | sky_1 | can you show me (screen) how it look ? |
| 07:26.07 | Nameless_au | yep one minute |
| 07:27.43 | Nameless_au | sky_1: http://imagebin.ca/view/BL0PaD.html |
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| 07:28.53 | sky_1 | nice |
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| 07:29.08 | sky_1 | Kubuntu ? |
| 07:29.19 | H2OyJaBoN | hi all! |
| 07:29.24 | sky_1 | hi |
| 07:29.49 | Nameless_au | xubuntu with kde |
| 07:30.09 | Nameless_au | it's cool i found the colour setting |
| 07:30.12 | Nameless_au | thanks |
| 07:31.20 | sky_1 | bye |
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| 08:30.34 | spirov92 | I recently updated to 4.3rc1, and autostart doesn't seem to be working. is this a known bug? |
| 08:31.05 | annma | explain so I can check |
| 08:31.11 | H2OyJaBoN | is posible autoconnect to a wifi with SSID hidden with knetworkmanager widget? |
| 08:31.12 | annma | detail what you are doing please |
| 08:31.30 | annma | H2OyJaBoN: ask in your distro channel |
| 08:31.36 | annma | detail what you are doing please spirov92 |
| 08:31.45 | spirov92 | annma: ok |
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| 08:32.08 | spirov92 | I have several programs added in the autostart menu in KDE system settings |
| 08:32.11 | pusling_ | annma: why should H2OyJaBoN ask in distro channels on how to use kde apps ? |
| 08:32.38 | spirov92 | but they are not run on login. |
| 08:32.44 | xxtjaxx_ | hi annma |
| 08:32.53 | annma | pusling_: if it's the plasmoid then it's not shipped from us |
| 08:33.05 | annma | "knetworkmanager widget" |
| 08:33.19 | H2OyJaBoN | pusling_: :) |
| 08:33.31 | H2OyJaBoN | annma: its equal from knetwork manager |
| 08:33.40 | pusling_ | annma: it is at least shipped by kde people, but maybe not you personally. |
| 08:33.42 | annma | H2OyJaBoN: KDE version please |
| 08:33.49 | annma | pusling_: is it? |
| 08:33.57 | annma | it's in playground last time I checked |
| 08:34.11 | pusling_ | annma: yes. the developers of it has actively asked the distros to ship it. |
| 08:34.16 | annma | the network manager applet is not shipped by KDE |
| 08:34.54 | annma | as long as it's not in extragear it means it's lacking basic functionalities |
| 08:35.13 | annma | spirov92: did it work with same settings prior to RC1? |
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| 08:36.47 | H2OyJaBoN | annma: the version is KDE: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2) |
| 08:36.55 | annma | <H2OyJaBoN> is posible autoconnect to a wifi with SSID hidden with knetworkmanager widget? seems an advanced functionality to me and "a priori" I think asking in distro channel would increase chances of an answer |
| 08:37.18 | spirov92 | annma: yes, it usd to work in 4.2 |
| 08:37.41 | annma | spirov92: can you give me an example of such an Autostart added program |
| 08:37.55 | annma | program or script? |
| 08:37.57 | pusling_ | H2OyJaBoN: that feature probably isn't implemented yet. |
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| 08:38.08 | spirov92 | annma: hamachi-gui, for example |
| 08:38.10 | H2OyJaBoN | annma: oks.... |
| 08:38.14 | H2OyJaBoN | pusling_: ok thx!! |
| 08:38.35 | annma | write the devel and urge him to implement it |
| 08:38.42 | H2OyJaBoN | i ask becasuse the configuration say "auto connect" but never save the checkbox and connect xD |
| 08:38.56 | annma | spirov92: is it only with some progs? |
| 08:39.02 | spirov92 | annma: but I also have a couple of shell scripts, such as myautostart, which starts apache and skype |
| 08:39.19 | spirov92 | annma: no, none of those in the list seem to be running |
| 08:39.34 | annma | spirov92: no KDE apps inthe list? |
| 08:39.45 | spirov92 | there's also 2 screenlets, kupdateapplet, etc |
| 08:40.09 | spirov92 | I'm not sure if kupdateapplet is a KDE app |
| 08:40.26 | H2OyJaBoN | well people i gonna to sleep, see you:)! |
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| 08:41.30 | spirov92 | annma: a possibly related issue. I see a notification that KDE Daemon has requested to open kdewallet |
| 08:41.54 | annma | you don't need kwallet on autostart |
| 08:42.06 | annma | or do you for one autostarted app? |
| 08:43.05 | spirov92 | annma: one of the apps asks for root pw with kdesu, but I don't think the wallet is needed. |
| 08:43.13 | spirov92 | brb |
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| 08:43.38 | annma | the wallet is not needed for root |
| 08:44.32 | spirov92 | annma: yes, I know |
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| 08:47.13 | spirov92 | annma: where are the items actually stored? I see them in ~/.config/autostart, but ~/.kde/Autostart is empty |
| 08:47.50 | annma | I think it's written in the doc |
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| 08:48.04 | spirov92 | annma: which doc? |
| 08:48.38 | annma | autostart doc |
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| 08:49.00 | Jucato | spirov92: ~/.kde/Autostart is a KDE-only location. so only KDE honors that. ~/.config/autostart/ is a freedesktop.org standard |
| 08:49.02 | annma | "The program scans ~/.config/autostart/" |
| 08:49.20 | Jucato | (which is/should be used by other desktops also conforming to fd.o |
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| 08:50.20 | spirov92 | Jucato: thanks |
| 08:50.33 | annma | spirov92: do you have this hamachi-gui desktop file in ~/.config/autostart/? |
| 08:50.51 | viana | hi,all how can i run my program automative when i powerup my pc? |
| 08:50.56 | spirov92 | annma: I see a hamachi-gui.desktop |
| 08:50.58 | Jucato | apologizes to annma for stealing her prey... |
| 08:52.06 | annma | viana: you can set your session to restore current session and all running progs will be restored |
| 08:52.22 | annma | viana: or you can use Autostart in System Settings |
| 08:52.40 | annma | spirov92: and does this hamachi-gui need a password? |
| 08:52.46 | annma | does it need root? |
| 08:52.49 | viana | thank you |
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| 08:53.36 | spirov92 | annma: no, it doesn't need a pw to start, but if /sbin/tuncfg is not running it uses kdesu to run it |
| 08:54.08 | annma | seems complicated |
| 08:54.32 | annma | spirov92: I suggest you remove that from autostart and see if the rest autostarts |
| 08:54.50 | annma | try to pin up the real problem and issue a bug report about it |
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| 08:55.05 | annma | if it works for 4.2 it's a regression somewhere |
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| 08:55.11 | annma | but where |
| 08:55.32 | pusling_ | /.kde/Autostart works in 4.2. |
| 08:55.57 | spirov92 | annma: ok I will. I'll restart kde and see if anything changes. |
| 08:56.04 | annma | thanks |
| 08:56.14 | annma | try adding a normal kde prog to autostart |
| 08:56.17 | annma | too late |
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| 09:00.47 | spirov92 | annma: the autostart seems to work now |
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| 09:01.24 | annma | without hamachi-gui? |
| 09:01.30 | spirov92 | yes |
| 09:01.44 | spirov92 | I also removed a few other apps |
| 09:01.48 | annma | ah |
| 09:01.58 | annma | so you don't know where the problem may be? |
| 09:02.19 | spirov92 | I could try adding hamachi-gui back in |
| 09:02.38 | annma | yes that would be nice |
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| 09:09.01 | Trevelyan | Hi. I can't resize the kate window on os x? |
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| 09:09.48 | annma | only the Kate window? |
| 09:11.19 | Trevelyan | konversation resizes. should i try others? |
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| 09:11.20 | Trevelyan | amarok2 is also ok |
| 09:11.20 | Sho_ | Trevelyan: #fink might know more |
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| 09:12.00 | Trevelyan | i'll ask there too |
| 09:12.14 | pinotree | Sho_: isn't there #kde-mac? |
| 09:13.02 | spirov92 | annma: added hamachi-gui back in, and autostart is still working |
| 09:13.04 | Sho_ | pinotree: dunno ... #fink packages/distributes KDE for OS X, RangerRick (head KDE mac dude) is there, various people who use KDE on Mac, ... |
| 09:13.16 | annma | spirov92: oh so it's one of the others |
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| 09:14.34 | spirov92 | annma: I removed the disabled ones, which included firefox, the GNOME update manager, and a few other GNOME parts. |
| 09:15.01 | spirov92 | anyway, thanks for the help :) |
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| 09:16.02 | annma | Ok I'll check if disabled progs is broken |
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| 09:21.33 | crunchie | hi |
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| 09:22.00 | crunchie | how do i add /usr/bin/VirtualBox to Kmenu ? |
| 09:22.04 | spirov92 | hey, I have a question. is KDE4 Quanta anywhere near completion? |
| 09:22.54 | Jucato | crunchie: it should be automatically added. how did you install it? |
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| 09:24.44 | szal | crunchie: wrong channel :P |
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| 09:30.03 | Sho_ | szal: How is a question about editing the KDE menu "wrong channel"? |
| 09:30.51 | crunchie | Jucato: yea but from an un official repo |
| 09:30.56 | szal | Sho_: in that he installed VirtualBox by getting assistance in #archlinux, and getting stuff into the menu may vary between distributions |
| 09:31.33 | Jucato | szal: not really. there's a standard. |
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| 09:32.21 | Jucato | but packagers/packages should follow that when creating/installing .desktop files.. like in this case... |
| 09:32.24 | Sho_ | szal: well ... kmenuedit is part of KDE |
| 09:32.52 | Jucato | crunchie: run "kbuildsycoca4" (if you're on KDE 4, or "kbuildsycoca" in KDE 3) and check if it still isn't in your menu |
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| 10:01.41 | sxe | hi |
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| 10:07.59 | kernelpanic | I feel stupid. Just installed kdebase from svn and cannot find how to show windows from current desktop only. Am I bilnd? |
| 10:08.18 | Sho_ | kernelpanic: Show where? |
| 10:08.58 | Bou | kernelpanic: in panel you mean (task bar?) |
| 10:09.10 | kernelpanic | yes, in the task bar |
| 10:09.12 | Sho_ | kernelpanic: Unlock widgets if they're locked, click the little icon at the end of the panel to bring up the panel configurator, then right-click the taskbar widget, click "Task Manager Settings" and there you'll find the option |
| 10:09.32 | Sho_ | third checkbox from the bottom |
| 10:11.00 | kernelpanic | ah! I didn't get that the panel has to be in adjustment-mode for me to find that dreaded "Task manager Settings" entry. Thank you! |
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| 10:11.28 | kernelpanic | where's the difference between screen/desktop? |
| 10:11.46 | XrX|Ewee | when you go over a icon in a panel, a popup appear with information about that app. Anyone know how to turn this off? |
| 10:12.07 | kernelpanic | XrX|Ewee: Unlock widgets if they're locked, click the little icon at the end of the panel to bring up the panel configurator, then right-click the taskbar widget, click "Task Manager Settings" and there you'll find the option |
| 10:12.10 | kernelpanic | :) |
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| 10:12.15 | Nameless_au | XrX|Ewee: somewhere turn off tooltips in options |
| 10:12.28 | XrX|Ewee | tnx !!! |
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| 10:21.24 | zsol | Hello, I'm using Ubuntu (karmic, the dev branch atm, which has some 4.2.95ish version of kde) and I was wondering about the preferred way to configure my dual-monitor desktop. I'd like the screen to stretch across the two monitors. |
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| 10:22.47 | cb400f | what gfx card? |
| 10:22.58 | zsol | it's an intel |
| 10:23.16 | zsol | gm965 |
| 10:23.27 | cb400f | then krandrtray or xrandr I guess... or xorg.conf if all else fails |
| 10:24.28 | zsol | I've managed to set it up using xrandr (normally I use a rather minimalistic window manager) but KDE thinks I want to clone the desktop across the two screens |
| 10:24.40 | zsol | I'll try krandrtray |
| 10:24.50 | Half-Left | zsol: Try systemsettings>Display>Multiple Monitors |
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| 10:25.07 | Half-Left | wonders if that actually works |
| 10:25.12 | zsol | Half-Left: tried that, should I be able to drag around the monitors? |
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| 10:25.46 | Half-Left | Not sure, I don't have that setup. Just wondered how good it worked. |
| 10:25.55 | zsol | pretty awful |
| 10:25.56 | zsol | :] |
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| 10:26.14 | Half-Left | Ugh, they must have just put it in for starters then |
| 10:26.22 | zsol | Multiple Monitors actually says that my setup doesn't support multiple monitors |
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| 10:27.54 | zsol | guess I should file a bugreport somewhere about this |
| 10:28.18 | Nameless_au | zsol: and the kde faq states the latest stable version is 3.5.5 |
| 10:28.43 | Half-Left | I think there are plenty |
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| 10:31.34 | Half-Left | 3.5.5? |
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| 10:32.47 | Nameless_au | lol yes. |
| 10:33.12 | zsol | I don't think that's really up-to-date |
| 10:33.24 | Nameless_au | does kde have a keyboard layout switcher? |
| 10:33.33 | zsol | btw, I'm trying to use krandrtray |
| 10:33.46 | Nameless_au | zsol: no i think it's spot on, my computer is just from the future. |
| 10:34.19 | Half-Left | Nameless_au: Yes |
| 10:35.20 | Nameless_au | Half-Left: what is it called? |
| 10:36.11 | Half-Left | systemsettings/Regional & Language/Keyboard Layout |
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| 10:40.29 | Nameless_au | Half-Left: thanks |
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| 10:47.15 | Nameless_au | in kde, why is the file manager called thunar in some places and dolphin in others? |
| 10:47.45 | Half-Left | because it sees other file managers |
| 10:48.24 | Nameless_au | ok is this a problem? |
| 10:48.43 | Jucato | The KDE file manager is Dolphin, not Thunar |
| 10:48.59 | Jucato | where are you seeing Thunar as being called the File Manager in KDE? |
| 10:49.14 | Half-Left | morning Jucato |
| 10:49.23 | Jucato | hello Half-Left |
| 10:49.33 | Nameless_au | i'm seeing thunar referred to as dolphin in the usb device notifier |
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| 10:50.04 | pinotree | you most probably set thunar as default file manager for kde? |
| 10:50.15 | Jucato | was just about to say.... |
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| 10:50.44 | Nameless_au | pinotree: i haven't set any such option, don't know where to do it from |
| 10:51.21 | Nameless_au | not that it matters to me unless there will be a conflict - thunar is nice enough to me |
| 10:51.29 | Jucato | Nameless_au: so if you click on the device notifier, it opens in Thunar, not in Dolphin? |
| 10:51.40 | Nameless_au | Jucato: yes |
| 10:51.54 | Half-Left | Oh nice |
| 10:52.09 | Jucato | then I agree with pinotree's asses |
| 10:52.10 | Jucato | ment |
| 10:52.14 | Jucato | oops. pressed Enter too fast |
| 10:52.17 | Half-Left | Love to know how that happened :p |
| 10:52.23 | Nameless_au | some1 mentioned dolphin to me last nite, i didn't know what they were going on about til now lol |
| 10:52.59 | Nameless_au | i was using xfce before this, could this have caused it? |
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| 10:54.34 | TaperHarley | hi is there an input language switching applet in kde? |
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| 10:55.00 | Nameless_au | TaperHarley: systemsettings/Regional & Language/Keyboard Layout |
| 10:55.09 | Nameless_au | :) |
| 10:55.15 | Nameless_au | i asked 5 mins ago lol |
| 10:55.33 | TaperHarley | that's in yast right? |
| 10:55.56 | Half-Left | No |
| 10:56.16 | TaperHarley | that's kde's settings? |
| 10:56.20 | Half-Left | yes |
| 10:56.23 | Nameless_au | menu editor under 'computer' |
| 10:56.30 | Half-Left | Since we are in #kde |
| 10:56.30 | TaperHarley | ok thanks! |
| 10:56.32 | Half-Left | :p |
| 10:56.37 | Nameless_au | np |
| 10:56.55 | Nameless_au | i thought we were in #gnome |
| 10:57.00 | Nameless_au | nah j/k |
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| 10:57.13 | Nameless_au | not slashing my wrists just yet |
| 10:57.16 | Nameless_au | :P |
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| 11:02.08 | tuxick | keyboard stopped responding again |
| 11:02.15 | tuxick | this includes capslock led |
| 11:02.32 | tuxick | this bug is getting old :) |
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| 11:03.14 | annma | really? what kde version? |
| 11:03.28 | annma | you seem to have all starnge bugs tuxick |
| 11:03.32 | Nameless_au | the most stable - 3.5.5 |
| 11:03.40 | Nameless_au | according to the faq :) |
| 11:03.49 | TaperHarley | guys I'm using kde 3.5.10 where do I find that input language setting thingie? |
| 11:03.50 | Half-Left | What FAQ? |
| 11:04.53 | annma | I am talking to tuxick Nameless_au |
| 11:05.03 | tuxick | annma: it's an age old thread on bugtracker |
| 11:05.12 | tuxick | i'm not alone :) |
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| 11:05.55 | TaperHarley | Nameless_au, I'm using kde 3.5.10 where do I find that input language setting thingie? |
| 11:06.01 | zsol | I wonder how to set a background that stretches over both of my screens |
| 11:06.42 | annma | bug number tuxick |
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| 11:07.05 | Nameless_au | TaperHarley: i don't know, i'm running 4.2.2 |
| 11:07.13 | Nameless_au | like a human |
| 11:07.48 | Nameless_au | sorry that last line was wrong window |
| 11:07.57 | Half-Left | Nameless_au: That's because KDE3.5 is more mature and some people will stay with it for a while |
| 11:08.05 | TaperHarley | I also have kde 4.13 but suse doesn't update to 4.22 do I have to add a repo for that? |
| 11:08.14 | zsol | btw, http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ shows an empty page for me |
| 11:08.26 | annma | tuxick: what bug number? |
| 11:08.48 | Nameless_au | zsol: yes same here, i'm told the maintainers are changing the faq for the new version |
| 11:09.00 | Nameless_au | Half-Left: yes no arguments there |
| 11:09.17 | zsol | cool |
| 11:09.23 | seto | what is the order to build full kde ? akonadi ; kdepimlibs, kdelibs, kdelibexperimental, and after that ? |
| 11:09.49 | Nameless_au | full kde? i just did apt-get install kde lol |
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| 11:09.53 | Jucato | TaperHarley: you'll have to ask in #opensuse |
| 11:10.13 | seto | Nameless_au: full kde 4.3.1 rc1 |
| 11:10.21 | Jucato | Nameless_au: build = compile from source. not just install. so apt-get install kde won't do that :) |
| 11:10.31 | szal | hmmmmmm.. how do I open a message I saved as draft for sending? (KMail) |
| 11:10.33 | Half-Left | seto: akonadi kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase |
| 11:10.33 | Nameless_au | seto: oh rc1 - my apologies |
| 11:10.53 | Jucato | szal: isn't there a Drafts folder in your tree view? |
| 11:10.59 | TaperHarley | thx guys |
| 11:11.05 | szal | Jucato: yes, that's where the msg lies |
| 11:11.07 | seto | Half-Left: are you sure about that ? because, when I try kdebase, I get some error about something in kdebase-workspace for example |
| 11:11.08 | Nameless_au | Jucato: tnx 4 the definitions mate |
| 11:11.15 | Half-Left | seto: or kdesupport, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase |
| 11:11.21 | Jucato | szal: then double click it? |
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| 11:11.38 | tuxick | annma: 171685 |
| 11:11.39 | seto | ok, I will retry thx. |
| 11:11.46 | szal | Jucato: ah, thx :) |
| 11:11.47 | tuxick | and it's VERY annoying |
| 11:11.58 | Half-Left | seto: well kderuntime, kde-workspace, kdebase then |
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| 11:12.29 | annma | tuxick: you would be so nice to paste a valid url |
| 11:12.35 | annma | god |
| 11:12.45 | annma | so I just can click, you know |
| 11:12.52 | annma | thanks in advance |
| 11:12.55 | annma | !!!! |
| 11:12.57 | tuxick | annma: i'm slightly handicapped here :) |
| 11:13.07 | annma | you are yes |
| 11:13.29 | tuxick | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171685 |
| 11:13.44 | tuxick | you asked for bug # ! |
| 11:15.11 | annma | next time i'll say: url bug |
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| 11:15.35 | tuxick | ;p |
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| 11:15.42 | annma | very starnge bug, does not apply here |
| 11:15.46 | tuxick | course not |
| 11:15.57 | tuxick | if it affected everybody it'd been fixed half a year ago |
| 11:16.16 | Nameless_au | sad but true |
| 11:16.42 | annma | if devels can't reproduce they can't fix |
| 11:17.19 | tuxick | that's the problem, still not found the pattern |
| 11:17.31 | annma | so investigate deeper |
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| 11:19.14 | tuxick | screen just blanked on screensave, but it responded to spacebar :) |
| 11:19.27 | tuxick | i just can't type anything, alt-tab, capslock etc dead |
| 11:19.31 | tuxick | lessee |
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| 11:20.58 | tuxick | xev agrees, no keys |
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| 11:28.00 | tuxick | annma: i don't really understand, some part of kde actually intercepts key events so they don't even reach xev? |
| 11:28.03 | tuxick | dang |
| 11:28.06 | tuxick | bad timing |
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| 11:29.37 | Peace- | oh this is new now |
| 11:29.42 | Peace- | xD |
| 11:29.51 | Peace- | qt doesn't support ATL Stamp |
| 11:29.56 | Peace- | ? |
| 11:30.03 | riano | tuxick: I wont be able to help, but I'm curious.. are you using wired keyboard? usb/ps2? multimedia? |
| 11:30.18 | tuxick | wired usb |
| 11:30.29 | tuxick | and the problem really is kde |
| 11:31.02 | Half-Left | Don't they all say that :p |
| 11:31.04 | tuxick | aha, i'm slowly getting responses again |
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| 11:31.20 | tuxick | well i know, since when i kill kde i get a working console |
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| 11:31.50 | tuxick | it also started happening when i upgrade to kde4 |
| 11:32.41 | seto | Half-Left: hmm.. kdebase-runtime fail with phonon error (dont find Phonon/ObjectDescription ) |
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| 11:32.56 | Half-Left | Well there are bugs in other libs that KDE4 can hit, so it's not necessarily KDE4 |
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| 11:33.10 | Half-Left | seto: check out kdesupport in trunk |
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| 11:33.47 | Half-Left | Or this just maybe a really hard bug to track down |
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| 11:41.00 | tuxick | aha |
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| 11:44.05 | seto | Half-Left: woot woot, kdesuport is huge ! |
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| 11:53.15 | Half-Left | seto: One stop place for supporting libs, but you can install which ones you need |
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| 11:58.53 | Prune | can someone give me the format in Kate for opening a file from a remote ftp server? like, <user>@host.com<password> for example |
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| 11:59.42 | riano | ftp://<user>@<host>/ |
| 11:59.49 | MinceR | Prune: you could try ftp://user:password@host/ |
| 11:59.54 | riano | and possibly, ftp://<user>:<password>@<host>/ |
| 11:59.55 | MinceR | or omit the password and be prompted |
| 11:59.56 | Prune | thanks will try |
| 12:00.14 | Isil`Zha | hi. which program is used to setup printers in kde4? i can't find it in the systemsettings |
| 12:01.26 | Isil`Zha | cups is installed... so i guess it's unrelated |
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| 12:02.28 | riano | it's in your system settings somewhere.. I use Kubuntu, I'm not sure if the interface is different |
| 12:02.39 | Isil`Zha | gentoo here |
| 12:02.46 | Isil`Zha | how is it called? printer setup? |
| 12:03.03 | Isil`Zha | which category? |
| 12:03.04 | riano | Printer configuration |
| 12:03.38 | riano | lets see, for me it's in the general tab and the computer administration section, named printer configuration |
| 12:04.35 | Prune | there's this little box in Kate at the top of the file open dialog box, it has in it typed in "remote:/" |
| 12:04.38 | Isil`Zha | i have a localised version. not sure if i get the transaltion right... i have display, date & time, multimedia, fonts, mouse & keyboard and keybindings there |
| 12:04.59 | Prune | but then below there's this Location box. which box would I put in the format for the file open? |
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| 12:06.29 | riano | Prune: you can turn the location box into an editable string |
| 12:06.34 | riano | that's where you'd enter the path |
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| 12:07.14 | riano | right click on the location box and click 'edit' (in english) |
| 12:07.26 | riano | then just replace the path with the above mentioned ftp:// stuff |
| 12:07.54 | riano | Isil, that's just weird.. you'd imagine a printer is a system setting :) |
| 12:08.09 | riano | maybe try reaching CUPS directly? |
| 12:08.57 | Prune | should I leave the "remote" thing in the little box at the top while I edit the string in the Location box? |
| 12:09.10 | riano | Isil`Zha: http://localhost:631/ |
| 12:09.45 | riano | Prune: no, remote:/ has to go as well |
| 12:10.15 | Prune | OK well riano that should make success much more likely to know that remote has to go |
| 12:10.30 | riano | oh, hey, the location box is what contains "remote:/" |
| 12:11.12 | Prune | I should add remote as well? |
| 12:11.13 | riano | give it a shot :) |
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| 12:12.11 | keylocker | using KCmdLineArgs, can i override a default option, like caption? |
| 12:13.44 | riano | Prune: nono.. from the start: At the top of the open dialog are some buttons, below that is the location box, that can be a typed path, or a navigation path. You need to turn it into a typed path and then replace everything in it with the ftp string |
| 12:15.00 | Prune | I seem to be able to easily get into that box to change it. I was able to get close enough that it opened the ftp password dialog box. I'm trying different strings now. |
| 12:15.30 | riano | well, when you get the password dialog box, the connection is working |
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| 12:15.42 | Prune | now I've provoked a crash. How can I kill the application Kate? |
| 12:16.04 | riano | try pressing ctr+alt+esc |
| 12:16.14 | Prune | thx |
| 12:16.40 | tuxick | riano: btw, toggling "slow keys" fixed it |
| 12:16.48 | tuxick | which is on the bug thread |
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| 12:17.35 | riano | tuxick: it seems to me KDE, or an app, at some point 'claims' the keyboard and needs to be reset.. but I'm no dev so I assume too much 99% of the time ;) |
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| 12:24.16 | Nameless_au | look i'm gonna sound like a knob but i'll ask - is there a kparted like there is a gparted in gnome? |
| 12:24.25 | Half-Left | Yes |
| 12:24.33 | hateball | !info kparted |
| 12:24.34 | Nameless_au | where the hell is it brother? |
| 12:24.39 | Half-Left | Qparted |
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| 12:24.53 | hateball | hmm, no supybot ;| |
| 12:25.13 | Half-Left | or http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Partition+Manager?content=89595 |
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| 12:26.09 | Isil`Zha | riano: thanks, that works |
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| 12:27.08 | crazy_bus | I get sound on messages in gnome programs like firefox. How can I turn this off? I tried turning all the notifications off in pulseaudio |
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| 12:27.45 | pinotree | crazy_bus: ask in a firefox channel? |
| 12:28.26 | crazy_bus | pinotree: it's other gtk based programs too. I thought since kde was the window manager there might be some option somewhere causing it |
| 12:28.35 | riano | crazy_bus: do you have gnome installed? and a gnome notification daemon running?? |
| 12:28.42 | pinotree | crazy_bus: kde has nothing to do with them |
| 12:30.50 | keylocker | I still have problems with some KDE command line args, because some dont work...: http://leleobhz.pastebin.com/d54245399 |
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| 12:31.14 | keylocker | someone can help-me understand why i cant use all options with KCmdArgs |
| 12:31.16 | keylocker | ? |
| 12:31.28 | pinotree | is nxdialog a kde application? |
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| 12:33.42 | keylocker | pinotree: PyKDE4 app |
| 12:33.49 | keylocker | ill paste it |
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| 12:34.31 | keylocker | http://leleobhz.pastebin.com/f4515b68d |
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| 12:36.05 | keylocker | pinotree: ^------ the code |
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| 12:36.39 | pinotree | is your app? |
| 12:37.00 | keylocker | yes |
| 12:37.22 | keylocker | the interesting is parent option was added to KCmdArgs |
| 12:37.24 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.26 | keylocker | but it dont accept it... |
| 12:37.30 | keylocker | ?/ |
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| 12:37.37 | pinotree | read http://api.kde.org/4.2-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKCmdLineArgs.html |
| 12:37.48 | pinotree | from the example: options.add("!option8 <cmd>", ki18n("All options following this one will be treated as arguments")); |
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| 12:40.25 | keylocker | pinotree: my problem is nxagent is a little stupid. see how it call the dialog: |
| 12:40.25 | keylocker | leleobhz 8891 19.0 0.6 187988 23984 ? R 06:25 0:00 /usr/bin/python /opt/NX/bin/nxdialog --dialog yesnosuspend --caption NX - scrat.semiofon.net-1000 --message Press the disconnect button to disconnect the running session.?You will be able to resume the session at later time. Press the?terminate button to exit the session and close all the running?programs. --parent 4999 --display :1000 |
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| 12:41.14 | pinotree | then either you fix nxdialog consumers, or fix the !message |
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| 12:42.15 | keylocker | afff.... |
| 12:42.21 | keylocker | hates wireless connections |
| 12:42.30 | keylocker | pinotree: can you tell me again plz? |
| 12:42.38 | pinotree | <pinotree> then either you fix nxdialog consumers, or fix the !message |
| 12:42.41 | keylocker | posted: [08/07-09:38:33] < keylocker> pinotree: my problem is nxagent is a little stupid. see how it call the dialog: |
| 12:42.45 | keylocker | [08/07-09:38:34] < keylocker> leleobhz 8891 19.0 0.6 187988 23984 ? R 06:25 0:00 /usr/bin/python /opt/NX/bin/nxdialog --dialog yesnosuspend --caption NX - scrat.semiofon.net-1000 --message Press the disconnect button to disconnect the running session.?You will be |
| 12:42.49 | keylocker | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.05 | MaNI | with okular is there a way to tell which font your selection is using? |
| 12:44.15 | pinotree | no |
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| 12:44.45 | keylocker | pinotree: how you suggest i change my !message? |
| 12:44.58 | pinotree | remove ! |
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| 12:45.35 | pinotree | this means you cannot do: nxdialog --message this is the shown message |
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| 12:45.53 | pinotree | but you always have to nxdialog --message "this is the shown message" |
| 12:46.02 | keylocker | lets see what happens |
| 12:47.47 | Sho_ | grins at pinotree |
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| 12:51.24 | star__ | When I right click on my desktop > desktop settings kde 4 crashes, and screen goes black and i cant restart kde using shift + alt + f12 (I hope thats the correct command..), Im running kde 4.3 rc1 on _x64 2.6.30 kernel with nvidia drivers |
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| 12:52.32 | Half-Left | star__: Alt, F2, type plasma-desktop |
| 12:52.41 | the_imp | having trouble upgrading. |
| 12:53.24 | star__ | Half-Left: thanks, about the issues, is it a well known issue or am i like the only one? |
| 12:53.45 | Half-Left | Crashes all the time starting Desktop Settings? |
| 12:54.06 | star__ | everytime i click desktop settings, yes |
| 12:54.32 | Half-Left | Strange, you have normal wallpaper plugin enabled or something else? |
| 12:55.10 | star__ | Im using the standard blue kde4 wallpaper, the blue one with white "bubbles/circles" |
| 12:55.19 | Half-Left | oh ok |
| 12:55.25 | star__ | I havent been able to change due to the crashes |
| 12:55.41 | Half-Left | Any backtrace, crash screen? |
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| 12:57.28 | star__ | Half-Left: Not really, everything goes black apart from possible windows being opened, I cant see any error message |
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| 12:57.46 | star__ | is there any .log which might provide information about the crash? |
| 12:57.51 | star__ | to see whats causing it :) |
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| 12:58.17 | Half-Left | Usually you will get a crash window |
| 12:58.56 | Half-Left | star_: do Alt, F2 and run this, kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop |
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| 13:00.40 | star_ | Half-Left: I will try that |
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| 13:00.57 | Half-Left | run plasma-desktop again if it doesn't start |
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| 13:02.36 | star_ | Half-Left: It still crashes, but now im able to relaunch it. |
| 13:02.59 | star_ | Half-Left: do you think a reinstallation might solve this? |
| 13:03.14 | Half-Left | ok try this |
| 13:03.33 | Half-Left | go to ~/.kde/share/config |
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| 13:04.34 | star_ | Half-Left: done |
| 13:05.00 | Half-Left | locate a file called plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
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| 13:05.21 | star_ | Half-Left: done |
| 13:05.29 | Rioting_Pacifist | is the plasma config only safed on logout? |
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| 13:05.38 | Half-Left | rename it with _old at the end |
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| 13:05.54 | Rioting_Pacifist | *saved |
| 13:05.58 | Half-Left | so plasma-desktop-appletsrc_old |
| 13:06.11 | Half-Left | Rioting_Pacifist: no |
| 13:06.12 | star_ | Half-Left: done |
| 13:06.27 | nid | hi |
| 13:06.27 | Half-Left | star_: Now restart plasma witht hat command I gave you |
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| 13:07.19 | nid | how to delete svn folder for folder ? |
| 13:07.43 | Half-Left | Rioting_Pacifist: It's saved on logout yes but every so many seconds in the DE |
| 13:10.07 | star_ | Half-Left: It didnt solve the problem, it still crashes the same way :( |
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| 13:10.42 | Half-Left | star_: You maye have a install issue, maybe the wallpaper plugin is crashing it |
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| 13:11.00 | der_soenke | hello, i've added a sub-calendar in korganizer. I sync my calendars via an imap-ressouce. Now i want to have this calendar also on my other pc. But I can't add it... How can I get this sub-calendar? The sub-calendar does not appear from alone, and if I try to add him by hand I get an error: "It is not possible to create the subressource" |
| 13:11.05 | Rioting_Pacifist | must be something else, when my system crashed regularly (not kdes fault) it didn't used to save changes to plasma. just thought id check |
| 13:11.55 | Half-Left | star_: Try a new user if you can, if it still crashes then maybe you have a bad package or something |
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| 13:19.59 | lmm | hi, what's the kde4 control center executable (was kcontrol in kde3)? |
| 13:20.08 | annma | systemsettings |
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| 13:20.51 | lmm | thanks |
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| 13:40.23 | orafu | hey, does anyone know where KDE automount stuff can be configured? |
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| 13:40.48 | annma | KDE does not automount by itself |
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| 13:41.15 | annma | automount is something "below" KDE |
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| 13:50.03 | Marco_ | it is possibile to personalize favorites entries in kickoff? |
| 13:50.57 | annma | drag and drop entries to it |
| 13:51.12 | annma | also drag them to change order |
| 13:51.41 | tuxick | annma: i fixed the keyboard stuff by waiting, and then toggling the "slow keys" |
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| 13:52.04 | tuxick | which has been mentioned on the thread |
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| 14:48.35 | Ralesk | hmm, is it known that in 4.2.95's Kopete, yahoo contact lists don't load? kopete says I'm online, but I never see anyone |
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| 14:51.56 | Jucato | Ralesk: I think the fix to the global Yahoo Messenger problem didn't make it to RC 1 but it should be there before the final release |
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| 14:52.07 | Jucato | http://mattr.info:8080/blog/2009/06/24/kopete-and-yahoo/ |
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| 14:55.34 | Ralesk | thanks; It seems though that 4.2.95 can login (or it believes it can), but at home on a 4.2.3+win7 combo I get an error about the failed login. |
| 14:55.50 | Ralesk | anyway, I hope the next RC or the release indeed fixes it ^^ |
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| 15:01.04 | OsamaK_ | In Kget, Can someone help me find this message "transfer-plugins/bittorrent/advanceddetails/fileview.cpp:78" in its GUI? |
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| 15:02.06 | MinceR | i don't know kget's source but it might be generated by a macro at that line in the source |
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| 15:02.43 | OsamaK_ | MinceR: What do you mean? (I'm not a C++ programmer) |
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| 15:03.40 | MinceR | i mean that if you're trying to find out how that message is generated, searching for that string could be one way to find out, but if that fails, you should look at the referenced line |
| 15:04.23 | AlexZion | hi everyone...,, I was consulting the Forum of Kde, and reading aboute some future already implemented ....., so my question is , how should I do ,in order to get all the new features implemented ? |
| 15:04.40 | OsamaK_ | MinceR: I see. That's why I'm asking somebody who can do that. |
| 15:04.40 | AlexZion | just wait for the next official release ? |
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| 15:08.13 | OsamaK_ | AlexElliott: what's your GNU/Linux distribution (if you're already using a GNU)? |
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| 15:11.11 | OsamaK | AlexZion: you got an answer? |
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| 15:11.16 | Moult | any ideas how to add a new calendar from a remote file in korganiser? |
| 15:11.37 | AlexZion | not yet ... |
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| 15:11.55 | OsamaK | AlexZion: What's your GNU/Linux distribution? |
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| 15:12.17 | AlexZion | now I was looking to update my kde version to 4.3.0 RC1 ..... |
| 15:12.45 | OsamaK | AlexZion: What's your distribution? |
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| 15:13.09 | AlexZion | should be already stable enoght |
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| 15:13.18 | AlexZion | Kubuntu 9.0.4 |
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| 15:14.20 | OsamaK | AlexZion: It's 9.4. See <http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.90> |
| 15:14.39 | OsamaK | AlexZion: It's for beta 2, but it should work. |
| 15:16.05 | tsimpson | we have RC1 out now: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.95 |
| 15:16.11 | AlexZion | yeah , I think the repo the same .. |
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| 15:17.56 | OsamaK | tsimpson: yeah, same instructions. |
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| 15:20.29 | AlexZion | ok , I'm installing it ..., thanks for your helps ... |
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| 15:22.23 | jospoortvliet_ | cvandonderen: ping |
| 15:22.34 | jospoortvliet_ | cvandonderen: waar zit je jij aapie |
| 15:22.55 | jospoortvliet_ | cvandonderen: waar is je BOF?!? |
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| 15:25.38 | AlexZion | using this report, I'll have always the new future implemented in Kde? or just when they are ready for kubuntu ? |
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| 15:25.48 | AlexZion | ops sorry ... |
| 15:26.15 | AlexZion | using the repo Kubuntu backport ....... |
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| 15:28.59 | aldraia | Hi, I'm creating a kdm 4 theme and I'm getting a strange behavior. I made a <item type="label" id="welcome" width="100%" >. The last words appears cut |
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| 15:33.56 | der_soenke | hello, i've added a sub-calendar in korganizer. I sync my calendars via an imap-ressouce. Now i want to have this calendar also on my other pc. But I can't add it... How can I get this sub-calendar? The sub-calendar does not appear from alone, and if I try to add him by hand I get an error: "It is not possible to create the subressource" |
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| 15:35.05 | Dhraakellian | I just moved/renamed my Konqueror settings |
| 15:35.13 | Dhraakellian | now flash works (for better or worse) |
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| 15:35.22 | Dhraakellian | but I also have close buttons on tabs |
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| 15:36.14 | Dhraakellian | and Settings > Configure Konqueror... > General > [ ] Show close button on tabs doesn't appear to be affecting it. |
| 15:36.20 | Dhraakellian | (4.3rc1) |
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| 15:37.35 | Tekhne | is there a way in kde 4.2.2 to define new window placement? i'd like to set things up so that windows remember where they were placed last and go there again rather than doing the "smart" placement they do now. |
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| 15:37.54 | Tekhne | s/new// |
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| 15:43.33 | beer_ | I am wondering if it is possible to buy a kde 4 manual? |
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| 15:47.26 | Tekhne | for my thing: "system settings > window behavior > advanced > placement" was where smart placement was set. however, that doesn't change a window's memory about where it was last placed. hmm... |
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| 15:48.56 | Tekhne | oh well |
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| 15:50.33 | junkDawgie | for a given application, the easiest way to force it's placement using the titlebar right click context menu in Advanced, Tekhne |
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| 15:52.42 | junkDawgie | setting changes that way also makes an entry in systemsettings/windowbehavior/windowspecific |
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| 15:53.40 | doilgheas | hi |
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| 16:08.10 | Mikey^ | Hey |
| 16:08.20 | Mikey^ | I am using kde4 on debian |
| 16:08.35 | Mikey^ | I cant find that image desktop widget in add widget |
| 16:08.40 | Mikey^ | how do I add that |
| 16:09.19 | freeedrich| | Mikey^: look for Picture Frame |
| 16:09.31 | annma | :) |
| 16:09.59 | Mikey^ | freeedrich|, tried, found nothing |
| 16:10.11 | annma | maybe your distro did not install it |
| 16:10.14 | freeedrich| | Mikey^: check you got kdeplasma-addons installed then. |
| 16:10.17 | annma | ask them what package it is |
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| 16:10.37 | Mikey^ | kde4 is not yet available on debian so installed kde4-minimal from kde4.debian.net |
| 16:10.41 | annma | not sure if they install the whole module or per applets |
| 16:10.42 | Mikey^ | ok |
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| 16:11.27 | Mikey^ | installing kdeplasma-addons |
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| 16:14.11 | Mikey^ | freeedrich|, works now thanks |
| 16:14.18 | freeedrich| | np, yw |
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| 16:15.00 | Half-Left | ZombieBear: Do you use the temperature system montior? |
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| 16:21.17 | beer_ | Mikey^: I think kde 4 is avalable for debian testing/squeeze |
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| 16:26.06 | ZombieBear | Half-Left: used to but haven't in a while |
| 16:27.45 | Half-Left | ZombieBear: Being as you used my theme, what do you think of the gauges? http://imagebin.ca/view/K8VeDQj6.html |
| 16:28.13 | Half-Left | I've just got my temperatures working :p |
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| 16:29.40 | ZombieBear | That;s tight |
| 16:30.16 | ZombieBear | Loving the shape. Finally steers away from the useless full circle |
| 16:30.49 | ZombieBear | Which reminds me I should propably get my monitors running again Xd |
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| 16:31.26 | G__81 | hi |
| 16:31.31 | Half-Left | I'll do a 1.4.1 :p |
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| 16:31.40 | G__81 | i want to know how to disable the nvidia effects in KDE |
| 16:32.02 | Half-Left | Which ones? |
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| 16:33.00 | liber | jain #kde-cafe |
| 16:33.02 | G__81 | Half-Left, i mean the appearance effects when you press alt + tab etc you would get some effects |
| 16:33.04 | liber | oops :) |
| 16:33.24 | Half-Left | systemsettings>Desktop>Desktop Effects |
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| 17:01.52 | jadrian | it doesn't show in kmix :S |
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| 17:13.21 | XrX|Ewee | sorry i meant jadrian |
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| 17:53.24 | SSJ_GZ | Marco: Dreaming of You |
| 17:53.26 | SSJ_GZ | oops |
| 17:53.37 | SSJ_GZ | Marco: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/pim/kmobiletools/ |
| 17:53.43 | SSJ_GZ | That was weird :) |
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| 17:54.32 | Marco | ah ah thanks:) |
| 17:54.35 | Marco | did you test it? |
| 17:54.51 | SSJ_GZ | Nope |
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| 18:02.48 | troy | moin folks |
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| 18:10.51 | ryann | is it possible for widgets to be configured to only be present on ONE desktop/workspace? |
| 18:12.12 | jadrian | XrX|Ewee: thanks got it :) |
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| 18:13.34 | mikademus | I just removed gnome from my fedora laptop (I only want KDE libs as far as possible) and when I rebooted I have lost my laptop's native resolutions. How can I get them back? |
| 18:14.50 | mikademus | Perhaps there is a special application or command to resolve this? |
| 18:14.54 | jadrian | ryann: I think what you want is a new activity |
| 18:14.56 | troy | mikademus: better ask in #fedora - it probably removed something you needed... you can use system settings to try to set the resolution, or, depending on your video card, the built in configuration programs (see nvidia-settings, for example) |
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| 18:16.20 | mikademus | troy, ok will ask there. In the display settings under system settings I can only access resoltions up to 1280x768, when my monitor actually supports up to 1650x1050. But as you say, I'll as first in #Fedora |
| 18:16.39 | jadrian | ryann: as in... go to the cashew, zoom out, then add activity |
| 18:17.02 | jadrian | ryann: then you could have two different desktops each with its own plasmoids |
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| 18:29.50 | faffi | Any debian kde users know how i would revert to 3.5 from 4.2 |
| 18:30.35 | troy | faffi: ask in #debian or similar - debian users are probably in a small minority in this channel |
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| 18:37.05 | adams | I have a pcmcia sound card and I cant seem to get flash to output any sound. anyone aware of solutions that do not involve moving the bckend over to PulseAudio? |
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| 18:43.30 | cookiemon5ter | why is there not a kworldclock in kde 4.2 |
| 18:43.47 | cookiemon5ter | is this marble thing supposed to be a replacement lol |
| 18:43.57 | annma | I think there's an applet in playground |
| 18:44.06 | annma | but I am not 100%sure |
| 18:44.15 | cookiemon5ter | playground ? :| |
| 18:44.25 | annma | yup == in development |
| 18:44.35 | cookiemon5ter | oh :) |
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| 18:45.48 | cookiemon5ter | i should just install the kde 3.5.10 libs |
| 18:45.55 | hallowname | kworldclock widget was working some two/three months ago when i tried it... |
| 18:46.14 | hallowname | cookiemon5ter: what can 3.5 do that 4.3 cant? |
| 18:46.42 | annma | oh true hallowname |
| 18:46.49 | annma | cookiemon5ter: it's in kdeplasma-addons |
| 18:47.10 | mikademus | I seem to be unable to enable desktop effects. I have a new HP laptop with a nvidia quadro fx, but I get an error dialogue saying that I should check my X settings |
| 18:47.18 | cookiemon5ter | annma: thank you :) |
| 18:47.28 | annma | mikademus: check if you have composite enabled |
| 18:47.36 | brot | mikademus: what does glx-info say ? |
| 18:48.01 | brot | hi mother by the way :) |
| 18:48.06 | mikademus | brot: command not found |
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| 18:48.28 | mikademus | annma: where do I enable compositing? |
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| 18:48.36 | brot | without the dash, mikademus |
| 18:48.38 | brot | :) |
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| 18:48.46 | mikademus | k thnx =P |
| 18:48.54 | annma | hey brot :) |
| 18:49.10 | cookiemon5ter | hmm guess it isn't here |
| 18:49.31 | cookiemon5ter | i'm using 4.2.4 btw |
| 18:49.35 | annma | cookiemon5ter: maybe it's not installed |
| 18:49.43 | annma | did you check your packages? |
| 18:49.49 | cookiemon5ter | kdeplasma-addons is installed |
| 18:49.53 | ZombieBoy | Is there a way to use composite in KDE4 with a nvidia G80 card without problems? |
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| 18:49.56 | annma | all of it? |
| 18:50.07 | brot | mikademus: when it says "direct rendering: Yes" |
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| 18:50.37 | brot | ZombieBoy: should be no problem. |
| 18:50.55 | cookiemon5ter | i'll have to mess with this |
| 18:50.59 | cookiemon5ter | I'm new with kde |
| 18:51.02 | ZombieBoy | brot: I am not able to use is without all the graphics being garbled and the mouse not showing up :( |
| 18:52.32 | cookiemon5ter | i actually found it :p |
| 18:52.43 | brot | ZombieBoy: try to use the newest nvidia-drivers. they improoved much since the last upgrades. |
| 18:53.13 | mikademus | brot: http://pastebin.com/mad21d8b |
| 18:53.23 | ZombieBoy | I am using the drivers from the gentoo repositories, I guess I should try to manually install the newest drivers... |
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| 18:55.16 | DanielW | ZombieBear: what version are you using? |
| 18:55.30 | brot | ZombieBoy: well, gentoo repos should be up to date, if you are using ~ |
| 18:55.47 | ZombieBoy | I'm not using ~, stable only. |
| 18:56.07 | ZombieBoy | Which I think use the nvidia driver 180.60. |
| 18:56.14 | cookiemon5ter | great I can't add it though it just freezes kde and uses all my cpu |
| 18:56.17 | cookiemon5ter | awesome |
| 18:56.30 | brot | ZombieBoy: then you could try to unmask the ~ version of the driver |
| 18:56.37 | brot | mikademus: "OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer " |
| 18:56.49 | brot | this means that you have problems with your graphic setup |
| 18:56.56 | brot | mikademus: what distro do you use ? |
| 18:57.09 | mikademus | Fedora 11 "Leonidis" |
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| 18:58.26 | brot | mikademus: http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod <- this is a guide on how to get the nvidia drivers running on your system. |
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| 18:59.06 | mikademus | brot: great thanks for the link, reading now |
| 18:59.14 | brot | no problem mikademus :) |
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| 19:06.13 | mikademus | brot, time to see if it worked, brb |
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| 19:15.15 | mikademus | brot: i have the nvidia packages, but I still can't cet composition. glxinfo now returns "name of display: :0.0 Error: glXCreateContext failed" |
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| 19:15.52 | brot | hm. |
| 19:15.56 | brot | ah |
| 19:16.12 | brot | that may be due to missing glx1 protocolls. |
| 19:16.44 | brot | mikademus: fedora uses very bleeding edge xserver-versions which may lack support for the nvidia driver. |
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| 19:17.08 | mikademus | what would be a sensible question to ask in #fedora? |
| 19:17.10 | brot | it would be the best if you ask someone in a fedora chan how to get nvidia-3d accel with fed11 |
| 19:17.25 | infojunky | any way to make plasmoid non-square in kde4.2. ? |
| 19:17.46 | annma | infojunky: like Bubblemon? |
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| 19:19.18 | hallowname | infojunky: hold down ctrl while you resize it |
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| 19:20.15 | infojunky | hallowname: ty .... should really play in 4.2 more ..... |
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| 19:20.55 | hallowname | infojunky: yw. 4.2 is old news to me. :P |
| 19:21.30 | Orbiter44 | hi people. my laptop hd died so I had to replace it. With a fresh install, I can't seem to get the numbers lock to stay off. So when I get the kde login greeter, I can't login. Is there a way to make the numbers lock stay off. I've checked the bios (thinkpad t21) |
| 19:21.36 | annma | ah I thought you were coding one |
| 19:21.54 | Borg^Queen | hi btw |
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| 19:22.14 | infojunky | just replaced our development windows bo x ... will do windows dev in vbox now ..... |
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| 19:23.35 | vbgunz | I am using KDE 4.2.95 from kubuntu.org and notice upon bootup fresh into KDE4 on a GTX260 performance is incredible. *but* after a while using it and not really adding on more demanding applications at any point, effects become a bit shotty. in other words, after about a days use, the effects just dont feel as snappy :( |
| 19:23.54 | fincher | how do I tell KDE that i want emacs-style keybindings in text boxes? |
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| 19:30.12 | _spm_Draget | Did anyone try kdebluetooth4-0.3 and has some experience with it? Does it run stable? Do all features work? |
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| 19:33.05 | hallowname | _spm_Draget: worked fine for me a few weeks ago... possibly an arch binary, im not sure if i compile it.. |
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| 19:42.34 | |Loom| | hi |
| 19:43.32 | brot | hi |
| 19:44.10 | |Loom| | :) |
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| 19:47.45 | |Loom| | i got a basic question... or well maybe a dump one... i want to change the resolution of my screen... but i just got the option for 1024x768 max.. not higher , gpu is a nvida8800gt, and my screen a 19" no tft |
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| 19:49.32 | Half-Left | |Loom|: Probably not XOrg has not detected it right |
| 19:49.51 | |Loom| | hm in the system info it shows the gpu correct |
| 19:49.53 | Half-Left | Xorg has *not |
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| 19:51.27 | Half-Left | It's Xorg that ultimately says what screen resolution you can use, the DE just uses whats available |
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| 19:52.01 | |Loom| | hmm so what can i do? , i am pretty new to this linux stuff think... trying to get used to it |
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| 19:52.51 | Half-Left | input it manually in to the xorg.conf, down side of Linux if Xorg doesn't hotplug right |
| 19:53.23 | |Loom| | hm ok , try to find it |
| 19:53.25 | |Loom| | thx mate |
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| 19:54.46 | Half-Left | |Loom|: Find your H/V sync and input it in the right place or just ask your distro channel is probably better |
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| 19:56.52 | |Loom| | hm it seems there is no xorg.conf file on the hd.... |
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| 19:58.12 | Half-Left | usually in /etc/X11/ |
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| 19:59.10 | |Loom| | hm yeah i am in this folder. no conf file to find |
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| 20:03.28 | Nameless_au | is there a way to force kde4 to not make more than one desktop? it keeps changing it back to 4 when i adjust compiz |
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| 20:13.18 | Half-Left | |Loom|: XOrg hotplugs so that's why you don't have one now days |
| 20:13.39 | Half-Left | But you can get it to generate one |
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| 20:15.14 | |Loom| | hm and how do you get it to generate one? |
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| 20:16.39 | Half-Left | Ask your distro channel about it, some my have a UI utility for that |
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| 20:17.15 | hallowname | |Loom|: 'X -configure' |
| 20:17.58 | |Loom| | ok thx |
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| 20:19.06 | hallowname | Half-Left: http://imagebin.ca/view/KxkRUVM.html <- how can i turn off this white/gray glow behind my letters? in plasmatheme/colors somewhere? |
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| 20:19.38 | Half-Left | hallowname: it's the text shadow in Folder View settings |
| 20:19.56 | hallowname | Half-Left: ah, but what about the task manager widgets text? |
| 20:20.13 | Half-Left | They don't have text shadows as I can see |
| 20:20.28 | Half-Left | But in 4.2 they do |
| 20:20.38 | Half-Left | 4.3 they don't |
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| 20:21.58 | hallowname | Half-Left: http://imagebin.ca/view/XWo4rNIM.html <- compare the folderview items to the task items. shadows bhind my tasks text... =/ |
| 20:23.12 | hallowname | i couldve swore plasmatheme/colors had an option for that... ill just dig thru themes then ;) |
| 20:23.44 | Half-Left | Is that 4.2? |
| 20:24.18 | hallowname | Half-Left: trunk 4.3.60 |
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| 20:25.02 | Half-Left | hmm |
| 20:26.02 | Half-Left | hallowname: I see this in my theme in 4.2 but not 4.3 |
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| 20:27.52 | Half-Left | But I have Fedora 11 with 4.2 on my other drive, but compile 4.3 here and I dont see that horrid white shadow in the tasks |
| 20:29.09 | hallowname | Half-Left: ill grok random themes til i find the culprit. plasma themeing needs some more documentation/blogging/review... |
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| 20:29.46 | Half-Left | hallowname: yeah, the colour file is not easy to fish around, pure guessing game |
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| 20:30.46 | Eternal_Sin | hi everyone |
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| 20:37.47 | ian| | Hi! Is some dev here that knows where exactly the inactivity timer of the screensaver is implemented? Is it part of the screensaver component or in some power management module? |
| 20:38.21 | ian| | I've a stupid probleme with a high-resolution mouse and a vibrating desktop, so my screen is never blanked.... |
| 20:39.01 | ian| | So now I want to ignore small mouse movements (e.g. less than 3 pixel within 10 seconds). |
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| 20:40.33 | tstaerk | ian|, ask in #kde-devel |
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| 20:43.58 | Half-Left | troy: Good blog |
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| 20:44.13 | Half-Left | hopes it's the same troy on planet |
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| 20:46.33 | SSJ_GZ | Half-Left: It is :) |
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| 20:47.24 | Half-Left | ahh :) |
| 20:48.30 | Half-Left | SSJ_GZ: KDE4 is a like the stealth bomber, all of it's weapons are hidden making it look like it doesn't have many options :) |
| 20:48.38 | SSJ_GZ | Hehe |
| 20:48.46 | Half-Left | options in fact |
| 20:49.02 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 21:00.56 | troy | Half-Left: thanks :) |
| 21:02.15 | Ralesk | hmm, is it intentional that when you close a window, kwin will focus (but not raise) a "related" window, instead of focusing the topmost (most recently used) one? |
| 21:03.16 | Ralesk | i.e. I have two konsole windows and I have a kmail window I used before one of the konsoles. I close this konsole, kwin will focus the other konsole I haven't used in a while, while I see the kmail window which I last used. |
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| 21:04.14 | troy | okay - random question |
| 21:04.52 | troy | I'm thinking of starting up a new series of articles for the dot, now that I have time on my hands, along the same lineage of my old Road to KDE 4 things.... |
| 21:05.06 | troy | Potential series title is "Discovering KDE 4" |
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| 21:05.12 | SSJ_GZ | Road Through KDE4? :p |
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| 21:05.37 | Half-Left | Yeah but don't bring up 4.0 :) |
| 21:05.38 | troy | Each article will feature a random app or feature from within KDE 4 that perhaps people haven't heard (enough) about |
| 21:05.47 | troy | Half-Left: that wasn't my fault :P |
| 21:06.17 | troy | each article will be written about features that can be found in released versions of KDE only (no upcoming features - don't want to feed hype) |
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| 21:07.34 | troy | so then, I will end up leaning on the community sometimes for input as to which features to, um, feature... (a feature feature...) |
| 21:07.49 | troy | so with that in mind - a quick question: |
| 21:07.59 | SSJ_GZ | troy: Developer or user community? |
| 21:08.06 | troy | SSJ_GZ: users |
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| 21:08.15 | Half-Left | yeah try and explain plasma more, some people think it's a hard coded look or something |
| 21:08.20 | troy | so, can anyone tell me one feature about KDE that they discovered today while using it? |
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| 21:08.38 | SSJ_GZ | troy: Cool - according to dannya, getting KDE devs to blow their own trumpets is like getting blood out of a stone :) |
| 21:08.58 | troy | SSJ_GZ: which is possible, given about 3 billion years of evolution :P |
| 21:09.13 | SSJ_GZ | troy: Do you have that long? :p |
| 21:09.25 | RACI | HELLO |
| 21:09.27 | troy | SSJ_GZ: well, I'll assume KDE 5 will be out by then :P |
| 21:09.33 | SSJ_GZ | (Good to see your degree isn't going to waste ;)) |
| 21:09.42 | Half-Left | haha |
| 21:09.53 | troy | SSJ_GZ: oh, I'm in grad school now :P |
| 21:10.03 | SSJ_GZ | Cool :) Masters or PhD? |
| 21:10.20 | troy | SSJ_GZ: Masters - I was offered direct entry to PhD, but I hedged :P |
| 21:10.32 | SSJ_GZ | Wise :) |
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| 21:10.59 | Half-Left | troy: I just what Discovery Channels :) |
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| 21:12.21 | Half-Left | I bet I know more about time and space than any of you, lol |
| 21:12.21 | Half-Left | and time :p |
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| 21:13.01 | Half-Left | hopes there is no scientists or physicists in here |
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| 21:15.50 | troy | Half-Left: solve for me then a problem that's been plaguing my sleep cycles... I need an equation for the surface of equipotential around a ring (of charge, or mass, or whatever) |
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| 21:16.54 | troy | any solutions I've seen include elliptic integrals, which have no indefinite form... yucky... |
| 21:17.25 | troy | anyway, back to the original question: can anyone tell me one thing about KDE that they discovered today while using it? |
| 21:17.35 | Half-Left | troy: Ok, let me just Google it, erm, think :p |
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| 21:20.43 | Half-Left | troy: Actually just found out you can get old file transfer windows back by disabling this in the systemtray(4.3) |
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| 21:22.31 | troy | Half-Left: good one - I'll put that one on the list of things to cover once 4.3 is out officially |
| 21:22.38 | troy | I think that's this week, anyway |
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| 21:25.24 | DrSlony | Help, ~/.local/share/applications/wine contains several programs but they do not show up in my K menu. Running 4.2.4-r1 on Gentoo 64. In some previous versions, wine programs did show in my K menu. The Wine dir in the KDE Menu Editor is empty. |
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| 21:31.12 | Half-Left | troy: I think a bit of effort could be made to let people know they you can have a classic look in KDE4. This my help people move over smoother. I was telling this guy how to make KDE4 look like KDE3.5 for his users. |
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| 21:35.38 | troy | Half-Left: I'll see what I can do - I want to be forward looking as well, but I might bug you on that topic, if you know how to configure it well :) |
| 21:35.43 | troy | Cheers - work done now |
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| 21:39.08 | ubuntu | Oh I am completely lost, HELP me somebody. I have crashed my computer totally and I am locked, I cannot do anything at all if this does not work. I crashed my previous kubuntu while I was tryng to upgrade to karmic alpha 2 with alternate cd through internet. And now I am running an old desktop CD, the only one and the installer DOES NOT WORK. It says it check harddrives but exits there and nothing happens. Help? |
| 21:39.53 | DrSlony | ubuntu : ask in #ubuntu |
| 21:40.02 | DanielW | or in #kubuntu |
| 21:40.47 | ubuntu | Nobody answer, this is a hal and dkkg problem. |
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| 21:50.23 | uouou | I don't know how to search for this.. how do I get a script into a panel? |
| 21:50.56 | uouou | or in general create an icon which will launch a command that I specify |
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| 21:52.52 | DrSlony | uouou AFAIK you need to add it to the Kmenu or manually create a .desktop file for it |
| 21:53.20 | uouou | hmm, strange. okay, I'll take a look at that. |
| 21:53.24 | uouou | I thought I was overlooking something |
| 21:54.07 | DanielW | uouou: use the menu editor to add it (it has quite a lot of options for a menu entry like run command, run it in terminal and so on) and then drop it to the panel |
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| 21:55.08 | uouou | DanielW: ahh. That's a litle better! :) Any idea if there's any plans to add a "launch this command: ___" widget? |
| 21:55.57 | uouou | I'm really liking kde 4.2, had a sour taste in my mouth after 4.0 or so, but this is really quite nice (kdemod under arch64 if you're interested) |
| 21:56.06 | DanielW | uouou: don't know. have you looked what is there in the "get new appelts from the internet" thing? |
| 21:56.49 | DanielW | uouou: than you will like kde 4.3 even more (release will be soon) |
| 21:57.07 | uouou | that's a problem specific to kdemod that I need to fix, actually. I can only install from kde-look and haven't gotten around to doing that |
| 21:58.53 | DanielW | uouou: so the download widget option in the add widgets dialog is not working for you? |
| 21:59.23 | uouou | DanielW: most of the time, no. I came across the fix rather easily so it's probably something that will be fixed soon. |
| 22:00.00 | uouou | it's almost like a permission error with /tmp, but installing manually works fine (I haven't tried any of this yet) |
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| 22:01.31 | DanielW | i don't really like the dialog in which the widgets are shown. you can only browe a subset of all avaible |
| 22:01.47 | uouou | it took me a bit to understand that I need to click the cashew to "open the panel up" in a way, for moving icons around. now that I get it I like it, but there was no indication of how to do that until googling. :P |
| 22:02.06 | uouou | DanielW: oh, I assumed that was a problem specific to kdemod too! that is a shame. |
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| 22:02.48 | DanielW | the problem is, that als effects other GHNS using apps (like in amarok the addon scripts) |
| 22:03.09 | Mirrakor | anyone has an idea what could cause this (and how to solve it?): http://pastebin.com/d5678915f |
| 22:03.42 | uouou | DanielW: I don't understand, the subset of widgets or the cashew? |
| 22:04.19 | DanielW | the get hot new stuff dialog for downloading new widgets, wallpapers, scripts in amarok and so on |
| 22:05.05 | uouou | ahh, I see. |
| 22:05.09 | DanielW | the cashew thing for moving the icons or drag them from the panel to the desktop. ok that is a little hard to discover the first time you use it |
| 22:05.38 | DanielW | but i have no idea how that could get fixed. |
| 22:06.09 | uouou | that is a tough one, because I do actually like the "locked in" aspect, so I'm not accidentally moving things around. same with widget-locking. |
| 22:07.00 | uouou | um, where IS the menu editor :P |
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| 22:07.31 | DanielW | uouou: right click on the kmenu |
| 22:07.43 | uouou | oh, haha :P |
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| 22:10.10 | DanielW | uouou: oh anther way to do it is: start dolphin and right click select "create new .. link to application" then drop the created link (after setting it up) to the panel |
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| 22:11.17 | uouou | hmm. I don't tend to use dolphin too much, I guess I should try it out just because. The first way worked however, thank you :) |
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| 22:12.21 | DanielW | uouou: it also works in the folderview (or the folderview desktop activity) |
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| 22:12.43 | xyzzwhy | When I launch applications from the menu or from alt+f2, their working directory is ~/Documents instead of ~/ |
| 22:12.46 | xyzzwhy | what's up with that |
| 22:13.23 | DanielW | xyzzwhy: can i find out whats the working directory of an application? |
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| 22:13.36 | DanielW | how |
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| 22:13.56 | xyzzwhy | there might be a generic way, I don't know what it is. |
| 22:14.08 | xyzzwhy | but if I launch like a terminal emulator, its initial directory is ~/Documents |
| 22:14.19 | ka | So anyone experienced empty taskmanager in KDE 4.3 RC1 |
| 22:14.22 | xyzzwhy | if I open various apps, and select Open from the file menu, it puts me in ~/Documents by default. etc. |
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| 22:15.25 | DanielW | ka: your taskmanager settings are correct? and you are sure the taskmanager widget is in the panel? |
| 22:15.35 | DanielW | xyzzwhy: mhh no idea, doesn't happen to me |
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| 22:16.03 | xyzzwhy | DanielW: Do you have a ~/Documents directory that exists? And if you go Menu->Applications->System->Terminal, it doesn't put you there by default? |
| 22:16.33 | DanielW | let me create one |
| 22:16.35 | xyzzwhy | oh, well, actually, Terminal won't. looks like Konsole either ignores initial working directory, or its launcher specs one different from default. |
| 22:16.42 | xyzzwhy | if you have urxvt or something like that installed you can see it. |
| 22:17.23 | DanielW | dont have urxvt mhh |
| 22:17.29 | xyzzwhy | hrm, I was able to set the work path just for urxvt |
| 22:17.36 | xyzzwhy | and it updated the global menu entry |
| 22:17.50 | xyzzwhy | so, the default of ~/Documents is still weird, but no longer acutely annoying. |
| 22:18.36 | pinotree | do you have a ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file? |
| 22:18.56 | xyzzwhy | yes. |
| 22:19.03 | ka | DanielW: Fresh .kde folder taskmanager is ther but no apps... |
| 22:19.06 | pinotree | it is set there |
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| 22:19.18 | xyzzwhy | this is there: XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents" |
| 22:19.27 | xyzzwhy | but that is probably correct, as I *do* store documents in ~/Documents. |
| 22:19.32 | pinotree | that's your reason |
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| 22:19.57 | xyzzwhy | not really. why should the fedora menu set initial working directory of launched applications to XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR ? :P |
| 22:20.02 | DanielW | ka: have searched on bugs.kde.org if it is a known bug (and propably fixed in trunk)? |
| 22:20.09 | xyzzwhy | I guess it assumes that most of the apps you're launch are like OpenOffice and GIMP. which is fine. |
| 22:20.16 | xyzzwhy | as long as urxvt starts in ~ I'm happy |
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| 22:20.43 | xyzzwhy | I had to do "Add to panel" and right-click on /that/ urxvt icon before I got an option to configure it. but when I did it updated the menu too, so that's fine. |
| 22:20.51 | ka | DanielW: Couldn't find it in kde bugs but then again I might have missed it... |
| 22:20.57 | pinotree | if fedora has menu files forcing the current directory to ~/Documents, that's fedora's configuration |
| 22:21.07 | DanielW | xyzzwhy: you can use the menu editor (right click on the kmenu icon) |
| 22:21.07 | xyzzwhy | sorry, meant to say KDE menu. |
| 22:21.16 | pinotree | same |
| 22:21.17 | xyzzwhy | DanielW: Thanks. |
| 22:21.30 | xyzzwhy | pinotree: so the ~/Documents thing is not a KDE default? |
| 22:21.32 | DanielW | so you don't have to drop it to panel to change it |
| 22:21.34 | xyzzwhy | (KDE4 here) |
| 22:21.43 | pinotree | kde uses (indirectly) that variable just for determining the default directory for documents, ie for open/save dialogs |
| 22:21.57 | pinotree | but not for the application default launch |
| 22:22.13 | DanielW | ka: you may want to ask in #plasma |
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| 22:26.04 | xyzzwhy | thanks for your help guys |
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| 22:40.51 | Zorael^2 | I want to compile trunk into /usr/local/* to keep it separate from my normal 4.2.95 installation (Kubuntu Karmic), and I *think* I've got my environment variables set up properly, but I'd appreciate it if someone could take a quick gander at it? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/213264/ |
| 22:41.17 | Zorael^2 | For instance, what about the library paths? I mean, /usr/local is fairly empty as it is now; if it needs to access the dev packages I have installed they're in /usr |
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| 22:47.36 | pInchoate | Q: There is no screen resolution limit for wallpapers in KDE, right? I just got two new monitors and only one desktop is wallpapered. The current resolution is 3800x1080. I'm using KDE4 on openSuse 64-bit. |
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| 22:49.43 | DanielW | pInchoate: mhh don' know much about dual head setups. but maybe you need to create a plasma activity for the second monitor and then select a wallpaper there |
| 22:52.09 | paloris_J | Since things seem pritty quite can I bring up an off topic subject |
| 22:52.42 | xyzzwhy | do not go to the elves for council, for they will say both yes and no. |
| 22:54.10 | paloris_J | I was just wondering about swine flue. I gess there are medical apps in kde that could bring it on topic |
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| 22:54.49 | paloris_J | are there medical apps for kde |
| 22:55.09 | pinotree | paloris_J: #kde-chat (see topic) |
| 22:57.01 | paloris_J | pinotree: There is no one there |
| 22:57.21 | pinotree | bad luck |
| 22:57.49 | paloris_J | yes |
| 22:59.58 | uouou | hm, in a way it's kind of surprising that dolphin and konqueror are seperate apps |
| 23:00.37 | uouou | I added a remote site in dolphin, it loaded in konqueror with sftp://, but then I had to go and reconfigure the same view options that I had done in dolphin |
| 23:01.05 | pinotree | the file managment component is the same, called dolphinpart |
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| 23:02.48 | uouou | what's the reason for them not sharing configuration? most of the options seem identical |
| 23:02.54 | uouou | or maybe they do and I just did it wrong :) |
| 23:03.14 | pinotree | they should do that already, actually |
| 23:04.04 | uouou | ok then, probably something on my end |
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| 23:15.37 | uouou | haha! this zooming out and adding activities is MADNESS |
| 23:16.25 | uouou | I like using the grid view for multiple desktops and I imagined hitting it again to get 16 desktops |
| 23:16.59 | uouou | though I really don't know what I would do with them. I hardly make use of more than 1 desktop. just rambling, nevermind me. :) |
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| 23:31.45 | paloris_J | with all these people here there must be some one that knows about vireses . Can swine flue interact with aids. yes or no |
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| 23:32.21 | paloris_J | I know this is off topic so sorry for the quick intrusion |
| 23:33.19 | pusling_ | maybe |
| 23:35.21 | paloris_J | pusling_: So you know about it. I am after a bit of info on it over in #kde-chat |
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| 23:37.20 | cookiemon5ter | aids & swine flu sounds like a bad combo :S |
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| 23:41.50 | cozminsky | probably just as likely to die of AIDS and the common cold |
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| 23:42.53 | pInchoate | DanielW, Still around? |
| 23:43.03 | pInchoate | How do I create a plasma activity for the 2nd monitor? |
| 23:43.04 | DanielW | yes |
| 23:43.24 | pInchoate | Or any monitor, that is. |
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| 23:43.37 | DanielW | mhh don't even now if this is needed.. normaly you use the "thing" i n the top right corner of the screen for it |
| 23:43.49 | pInchoate | I just have a blank screen on the right monitor and it doesn't respond to right-click-menus. |
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| 23:43.50 | scrote | hi |
| 23:43.54 | pInchoate | It's not there on the right monitor. |
| 23:44.06 | Joel_ | hi! |
| 23:44.27 | scrote | hi |
| 23:44.50 | DanielW | pInchoate: well you should better ask in plasma. aaron was working on something for multi head the last days (he blogged about it on planet kde) |
| 23:44.55 | DanielW | #plasma |
| 23:44.59 | pInchoate | Thx |
| 23:45.01 | scrote | the clock on the pannel, How can i get it to display in Non-military time. is that a linux setting, or kde setting. |
| 23:45.04 | scrote | using openntpd |
| 23:45.04 | DanielW | but not much going on there at the moment |
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| 23:45.56 | pInchoate | Yeah, that's what it looks like. |
| 23:46.40 | DanielW | scrote: did you try the regions and language settings (time there) in kde? |
| 23:47.04 | scrote | DanielW: ahh forgot about that. |
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| 23:49.23 | pInchoate | Someone suggested restarting plasma. |
| 23:49.31 | pInchoate | BRB, gotta' reboot (for kernel update). |
| 23:50.19 | paloris_J | cozminsky: I have been told that it is a auto emune virse. So I am just looking for some one that knows about it. |
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