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00:17.57 | shze | I'm trying to debug why I cannot login into my online banking (it always returns to start page), I've gdb attached w/ breakpoint at KUrl::setPath, but I can't figure out how to display the contents of its QString |
00:18.11 | shze | any ideas? or better ways to do this in general? |
00:20.13 | shze | (I'm using debian unstable packages) |
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00:33.13 | magyar | hi, is there a way to import messages from 3.2 kmail to 4.2 kmail? |
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00:50.33 | mase_work | magyar its just standard maildir |
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01:04.13 | magyar | mase_work: i copied the maildir from 3.5 to 4.2 and all mail lost its headers dates etc |
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01:05.44 | mase_work | magyar hmm well the mail headers will still be intact. you just need to find out how to tell kmail to refresh its cache of the headers. I'm not sure how you do that. I assume you have tried restarting kmail ? |
01:06.06 | mase_work | you may need to delete the index files if they exist |
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01:09.47 | magyar | mase_work: did that just now and even the new email went "unknown" |
01:10.31 | mase_work | magyar maybe try in #kde-pim. i am not sure |
01:10.41 | mase_work | it would not have overwritten the files though |
01:11.06 | pillum | hey, someones knows why I can't use python plasmoids? It says: "This object could not be created for the following reason: Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the gmail-plasmoid widget." |
01:11.31 | magyar | mase_work: will do |
01:15.33 | pillum | :( |
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01:19.35 | pillum | there are so many people in this channel |
01:19.42 | pillum | and everyone seems to be sleeping |
01:21.30 | phobos | pillum: they are compiling kde 4.3.0 |
01:22.03 | pillum | therefore they're sleeping? |
01:22.30 | phobos | pillum: if you count sleeping as not paying attention to the channel, then yes |
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01:23.02 | pillum | but maybe you could help me? :) |
01:23.27 | phobos | I can try. Whats the problem? |
01:23.48 | pillum | I can't use python plasmoids |
01:23.55 | pillum | This object could not be created for the following reason: Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the gmail-plasmoid widget. |
01:24.59 | phobos | do you have the plasmoid-dev installed from your distro? |
01:25.35 | pillum | humph |
01:25.42 | pillum | there is nothing like this here |
01:25.51 | pillum | btw: I'm running Freebsd |
01:25.57 | phobos | ah |
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01:26.05 | phobos | I have no experience with freebsd |
01:26.14 | phobos | have you tried asking in #freebsd? |
01:26.30 | pillum | freebsd or kde-freebsd? |
01:26.38 | phobos | either of em |
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01:28.08 | pillum | I tried in kde-freebsd (because I don't think that it is kde freebsd port problem) and it seems that they are really sleeping :D Everyday I ask them and nobody replies |
01:28.24 | pillum | (because I think that it is kde freebsd port problem) |
01:30.17 | phobos | Thats quite a mess... nothing useable shows up on google either. |
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01:32.41 | JukeBoxHero | no way to control slideshow timing in gwenview? |
01:33.48 | pillum | there is a way :) |
01:34.08 | pillum | in the settings |
01:35.03 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: but first you have to be in slideshow mode |
01:35.22 | JukeBoxHero | i cannot find any |
01:36.11 | pillum | go in slideshow mode -> click on the wrench |
01:37.23 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: found it or do I need to do a screenshot? |
01:37.33 | JukeBoxHero | yikes! there |
01:37.44 | JukeBoxHero | thanks |
01:37.59 | JukeBoxHero | but no manual control |
01:38.06 | JukeBoxHero | 2 secs is the lowest :| |
01:38.22 | pillum | what do you mean with manual control? |
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01:38.50 | JukeBoxHero | i want to add .2 .31 .75 secs manually |
01:39.04 | JukeBoxHero | interval control |
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01:39.38 | JukeBoxHero | oh well nevermind |
01:39.48 | JukeBoxHero | it is just a light wieght image viewer |
01:40.14 | pillum | want finer time control? |
01:40.18 | pillum | or what? |
01:40.38 | JukeBoxHero | yes |
01:40.46 | JukeBoxHero | where i can input manual times |
01:40.54 | pillum | why don't you modify the source code ? |
01:41.09 | JukeBoxHero | oh really, how genuine . . |
01:41.20 | JukeBoxHero | like everyone is born programmer |
01:41.36 | pillum | you're not? sry :D |
01:42.24 | JukeBoxHero | pathetic OSS replies :D |
01:43.06 | pillum | The idea that not everyone who uses *nix systems is a good programmer is strange to me :) |
01:45.01 | JukeBoxHero | yep, that's a shame |
01:45.12 | JukeBoxHero | *nix should only be used by programmers |
01:45.22 | JukeBoxHero | wtf is ubuntu doing |
01:45.23 | pillum | no |
01:46.23 | JukeBoxHero | its a disgrace that *nix has fallen to the clutches of the GUI thoery, when it should have never went beyond cli and X |
01:47.15 | pillum | I didn't say so :D |
01:48.11 | pillum | but since there are not programs for everything in *nix |
01:49.12 | JukeBoxHero | its ok so as i'm a seasoned linux user now |
01:49.36 | JukeBoxHero | but you pull that stunt on a new user who comes for help, you will repel 10 in his vicinity |
01:50.26 | JukeBoxHero | its ok to say we don't have that kinda app ;) |
01:50.35 | JukeBoxHero | or we miss that feature |
01:51.14 | JukeBoxHero | rather than , "hey hotshot, its open source, mod it! oo-rahh" |
01:51.22 | pillum | and therefore many *nix user know how to coded |
01:51.24 | pillum | code |
01:51.40 | pillum | so they can implement that feature or make that program |
01:52.52 | pillum | you know the official release date for kde 4.3 ? |
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01:55.52 | JukeBoxHero | hmm official.. nopes |
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01:58.50 | pillum | and non official? |
01:59.07 | drantin | doesn't techbase have it? |
01:59.24 | pillum | don't know |
01:59.27 | drantin | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule |
01:59.53 | pillum | thx |
02:03.00 | pillum | hey JukeBoxHero |
02:03.43 | pillum | even you could change the interval precision |
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02:04.50 | JukeBoxHero | pillum: how? |
02:04.50 | pillum | I think the interval speed is in milliseconds |
02:05.13 | pillum | modify sourcecode :D |
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02:05.35 | pillum | look at this: |
02:05.37 | pillum | return documentDuration * 1000; |
02:06.00 | pillum | the 1000 |
02:06.18 | pillum | should be changed to whatever you want |
02:06.45 | JukeBoxHero | forget it, i aint touching any source |
02:06.56 | JukeBoxHero | why does the plasma bar/panel change size when switched from 24/32bit to 16bit res colour? |
02:06.57 | pillum | k, if you don't want |
02:07.16 | pillum | dunno |
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02:29.31 | PhrkOnLsh | Is there any way to sync two resources in Korganizer? I'd like to link my remote resource that heads off to google calender with my local akonadi resource so that they sync both ways. is this possible? |
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02:38.20 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: if you still want to change the interval: there is only 1 line in two files you have to change for it |
02:39.19 | pillum | I would change and compile it for you, but I don't use Ubuntu (or what you else use) |
02:40.24 | pillum | or do you use FreeBSD? |
02:40.56 | PhrkOnLsh | JukeBoxHero: seasoned *nix guys usually have no problem touching source ;) |
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02:48.04 | pillum | PhrkOnLsh: you know why I can't use python plasmoids? |
02:48.42 | PhrkOnLsh | pillum: let me guess, can't create a script engine? |
02:48.54 | pillum | yes :( |
02:49.05 | PhrkOnLsh | pillum: same |
02:49.22 | PhrkOnLsh | probably some random missing dependency |
02:49.31 | PhrkOnLsh | i expect it to fix itself ;) |
02:51.17 | pillum | plasmoidviewer says: "ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtCore.so: Undefined symbol "_Py_TrueStruct"" |
02:51.45 | pillum | you have the same problem with the undefined symbol? |
02:53.18 | PhrkOnLsh | let's see |
02:53.53 | PhrkOnLsh | which one is a java one again? |
02:53.56 | PhrkOnLsh | er |
02:53.58 | PhrkOnLsh | python |
02:53.58 | PhrkOnLsh | wow |
02:54.08 | PhrkOnLsh | prays to the pyGods... so sorry my masters |
02:54.09 | pillum | wow? |
02:54.25 | pillum | why wow? |
02:54.44 | PhrkOnLsh | what is one of the python plasmoids? |
02:54.57 | pillum | gmail-plasmoid is one |
02:55.04 | pillum | but why wow? |
02:56.30 | PhrkOnLsh | cause i mistyped :) |
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02:56.39 | pillum | oh :) |
02:58.43 | PhrkOnLsh | pillum: I'm not getting any output, except what plasma normally dumps |
02:59.07 | pillum | used plasmoidviewer (in a terminal :))? |
02:59.27 | PhrkOnLsh | mhm |
02:59.29 | PhrkOnLsh | to both :) |
02:59.37 | PhrkOnLsh | rrix@wanton:~$ plasmoidviewer urlcompressor |
02:59.38 | PhrkOnLsh | rrix@wanton:~$ |
03:00.11 | pillum | :( |
03:00.41 | PhrkOnLsh | google for that symbol? |
03:00.52 | pillum | I tried |
03:00.55 | pillum | came nothing |
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03:02.22 | PhrkOnLsh | :(( |
03:02.28 | PhrkOnLsh | ask a kde mail list? |
03:03.21 | pillum | I am just writing an email to the kde-freebsd mailing list |
03:03.33 | PhrkOnLsh | oh cool :) |
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03:08.38 | dvl | When creating a new menu item that is to be run inside the terminal, is there a way for konsole to not exit when the script file is done running? |
03:09.17 | dvl | I keep thinking the "terminal options" field on the menu item, but don't know what could go in there. |
03:11.23 | PhrkOnLsh | dvl: put --hold in there. |
03:11.34 | dvl | PhrkOnLsh: will try |
03:14.31 | dvl | PhrkOnLsh: With --hold, I never see it open. Without --hold, I see it open, but then it closes. |
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03:15.17 | PhrkOnLsh | try --noclose then |
03:16.21 | dvl | bravo |
03:16.28 | PhrkOnLsh | works? |
03:16.51 | pillum | dvl: you doesn't know how to use '--help' options :D |
03:17.09 | pillum | konsole --help: ... --hold, --noclose Do not close the initial session automatically when it ends. ... |
03:17.41 | dvl | pillum: I expect man pages. |
03:17.56 | pillum | konsole has man pages? |
03:18.06 | dvl | That's my point. ;) |
03:18.25 | PhrkOnLsh | khelpcenter ftw |
03:18.40 | dvl | man ftw |
03:18.51 | pillum | '--help' ftw :P |
03:19.03 | PhrkOnLsh | holy wars for the win |
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03:19.19 | PhrkOnLsh | --background-mode is cool :) |
03:19.32 | dvl | Star Trek in IMAX FTW |
03:19.36 | PhrkOnLsh | totally making it my yakuake replacement :) |
03:19.49 | PhrkOnLsh | but can you make Star Trek in IMAX your yakuake replacement??? |
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03:20.02 | pillum | what does --bg-mode do? |
03:20.07 | dvl | given I have no idea what yakuake is, sure |
03:20.12 | PhrkOnLsh | run konsole with it and press F12 |
03:20.23 | Sho_ | dvl: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153 |
03:20.30 | pillum | like yakuake |
03:20.37 | PhrkOnLsh | mhm |
03:20.43 | PhrkOnLsh | but it's full konsole |
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03:20.54 | pillum | yakuake isn't? |
03:21.04 | Sho_ | "full konsole" ... well, Yakuake has some features Konsole doesn't, and Konsole has some features Yakuake doesn't |
03:21.14 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: good point. |
03:21.33 | pillum | yeah |
03:21.43 | Sho_ | For example, Yakuake's split implementation works differently, and many prefer it (you can't do http://www.kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/29153-2.png in Konsole) |
03:21.52 | Sho_ | Or disabling keyboard input for a terminal, etc. |
03:22.08 | pillum | how do you do that? |
03:22.15 | Sho_ | Personally, I use both Yakuake and Konsole :) |
03:22.19 | dvl | Sho_: bookmarked for later. |
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03:23.00 | Sho_ | pillum: Right-click a tab and pick the split actions, or use the keyboard shortcuts. You can also press and hold the new tab button to spawn a split session preset (and you can also assign keyboard shortcuts to those). |
03:23.00 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: I just want something that doesn't eat my task manager but is still there |
03:23.02 | PhrkOnLsh | hence yakuake |
03:23.39 | Sho_ | Well, not saying you should use one over the other :) Just that Konsole with --background-mode doesn't magically make it a Yakuake replacement, because Yakuake has a bunch of features Konsole doesn't |
03:23.51 | PhrkOnLsh | this is true |
03:24.03 | pillum | Sho_: I meant disabling keyboard input |
03:24.05 | Sho_ | but in the interest of full disclosure I must say that I am biased (I develop Yakuake) |
03:24.23 | Sho_ | pillum: Same thing, right-click tab or use keyboard shortcut ... gotta have 2.9.5 though (pretty new :) |
03:24.43 | PhrkOnLsh | but for the uses I have for it and the amount of features lost, it's pointless to have both :) |
03:24.52 | Sho_ | Yakuake also has a pretty nifty D-Bus interface that allows scripting it in a number of ways |
03:24.55 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: I figured as much ;) |
03:25.04 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: in what ways? |
03:25.08 | pillum | still having 2.9.4 |
03:25.32 | Sho_ | Well, you can script the creation of tabs, splits, manipulate tab labels, run commands in terminals, .. |
03:25.44 | PhrkOnLsh | that's pretty cool I suppose :) |
03:26.19 | pillum | Sho_: you're developing it? |
03:26.30 | pillum | you did a good job |
03:26.52 | PhrkOnLsh | :/ Konsole scrollback apparently broke :( |
03:27.05 | pillum | I never want to do without it again |
03:27.32 | Sho_ | pillum: thanks :) |
03:28.19 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: I'm a fan of yakuake, I must say :) |
03:28.26 | Sho_ | It was originally started by someone else, actually, but I've been developing it for the last 3-4 years, and there's no code from the original author left (the KDE 4 version was a full rewrite) |
03:28.35 | Sho_ | And of course, the original idea is in Quake :) |
03:29.11 | Sho_ | http://www.eikehein.com/quake.png :) |
03:30.59 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: btw, if you got a kde-apps.org account, you can actually put that on record: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?action=fan&content=29153 ;) |
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03:31.17 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: I have one.. somewhere... |
03:31.20 | PhrkOnLsh | :) |
03:31.34 | Sho_ | :) |
03:31.39 | PhrkOnLsh | I still think the coolest thing is being able to click links from within konsole :) |
03:31.44 | PhrkOnLsh | add that to yakyuake ;) |
03:31.55 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: oh, both have that these days |
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03:32.06 | PhrkOnLsh | hoshit :) |
03:32.09 | PhrkOnLsh | I did _not_ know that |
03:32.11 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: Konsole and Yakuake use the same terminal technology |
03:32.16 | PhrkOnLsh | okay |
03:32.19 | PhrkOnLsh | cool! |
03:32.28 | Sho_ | We KDE people like code reuse after all |
03:32.29 | Sho_ | :) |
03:33.02 | PhrkOnLsh | yup |
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03:46.45 | pillum | hey, are there any animated wallpaper for KDE 4.2.3 ? |
03:50.43 | pillum | kde 4.3 has some nice features ;) |
03:53.24 | Ajian | who used the KDE 4.3 |
03:54.42 | pillum | I don't |
03:55.21 | windowshasyou | I'm compiling 4.3 right now |
03:55.25 | windowshasyou | hope its worth the trouble. |
03:56.41 | PhrkOnLsh | pillum: animated wallpaper, wuh? |
03:56.58 | Ajian | I will use it ,wait for some time |
03:57.04 | pillum | yes animated wallpaper |
03:57.09 | pillum | kde 4.3 has some |
03:57.16 | PhrkOnLsh | shiny |
03:58.02 | pillum | but they're just some plasmoids |
03:58.30 | pillum | I don't think that it means you can use every video or some other animated things |
03:58.54 | pillum | PhrkOnLsh: |
03:58.56 | pillum | # Weather wallpaper displays a wallpaper matching the current weather |
03:58.58 | pillum | # The Virus wallpaper slowly eats your desktop |
03:58.59 | pillum | # Mandelbrot fractals as real-time computed wallpaper |
03:59.39 | PhrkOnLsh | nice |
03:59.46 | PhrkOnLsh | that's only 4.3? |
04:00.57 | pillum | i think so |
04:01.52 | PhrkOnLsh | :(( |
04:02.59 | pillum | why? |
04:03.22 | pillum | only 2 month |
04:03.24 | pillum | s |
04:03.45 | PhrkOnLsh | Yeah, that's too months of nofuntiem |
04:03.48 | PhrkOnLsh | two |
04:03.48 | pillum | then it will hopefully be released |
04:04.01 | PhrkOnLsh | hopefuly. :O :O |
04:04.08 | pillum | play some games :D |
04:04.31 | PhrkOnLsh | lol |
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04:11.30 | pillum | :( my desktop is so messed up |
04:11.44 | pillum | i have 20,000 files and don't know where to put them |
04:13.30 | PhrkOnLsh | pillum: in a tar archive name archive.tar |
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04:33.18 | Goofankle | I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm on Gentoo and KDE 4.2, and I have qtcurve installed but whenver I try to configure it it just says that it couldn't load the config dialog for the style. When I hit "show details" it says unknown error. I've tried reinstalling it but that didn't do anything |
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05:02.51 | kakalto | where does kmail keep its settings (other than .kde/share/apps/kmail)? |
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05:03.41 | xjjk | ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc |
05:05.12 | pillum | phrkonösh: I cleaned my desktop. Now it looks really nice :) : http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2600/plasmadrop2imageshack47.png |
05:06.00 | xjjk | pillum: what did it look like before |
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05:06.33 | Moult | looks at pillum's screenie |
05:06.50 | Moult | pillum: i didn't really like nuno's latest wallpaper |
05:06.58 | pillum | xjjk: bad :( |
05:07.19 | pillum | who's nuno? |
05:07.30 | xjjk | pillum: prominent KDE artist |
05:07.36 | xjjk | think he made the wallpaper you're using? |
05:07.38 | Moult | pillum: nuno pinheiro - creator on that wallpaper you've got on there |
05:08.33 | pillum | I did only know that this name is pinheiro |
05:09.53 | Moult | is turning his desktop into a "social desktop" - microblogging and rememberthemilk plasmoids |
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05:10.00 | pillum | kde 4.3? |
05:10.21 | Moult | pillum: me? yes./ |
05:10.21 | PhrkOnLsh | kakalto: !/.kde/share/config/kmail* |
05:10.31 | pillum | yes, you :) |
05:11.00 | PhrkOnLsh | Moult: social desktop is cool :) |
05:11.01 | pillum | Moult: how is it ? crashing all the time ? |
05:11.04 | PhrkOnLsh | i have great hopes |
05:11.24 | Moult | pillum: no, plasma-desktop was misbehaving but i just updated my kernel and now all seems well |
05:11.56 | Moult | i updated my nvidia drivers too but that just borked up kde badly so i downgraded again - i use somebody's personal overlay who hosts the latest beta drivers, so i think maybe he borked something up |
05:12.02 | PhrkOnLsh | nice, pillum :) |
05:12.23 | Moult | PhrkOnLsh: I saw the opendesktop plasmoid but so far it's been totally useless |
05:12.30 | Moult | i'm trying to use the plasma desktop more |
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05:12.54 | pillum | Moult: why's it useless? |
05:12.54 | PhrkOnLsh | Moult: but the future of it sounds great |
05:13.18 | Moult | PhrkOnLsh: yeah, just needs more useful plasmoids that people'll find useful on a regular basis |
05:13.31 | Moult | pillum: does nothing. of sorts. because i'm in malaysia - there's nobody around me. |
05:13.37 | Moult | no geeks in this country |
05:13.51 | PhrkOnLsh | Moult: we'll see ;) |
05:16.24 | PhrkOnLsh | night guys |
05:16.52 | pillum | night |
05:17.56 | Moult | gnight |
05:19.39 | kakalto | xjjk, PhrkOnLsh thanks =) |
05:21.55 | pillum | Moult: kakalto: anyone: do anyone of you have an idea how to change the color of the panel ? |
05:22.35 | Moult | pillum: change theme. |
05:22.48 | Moult | pillum: you can customise the theme to be made up of different themes |
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05:23.36 | pillum | Moult: how |
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05:23.38 | pillum | ? |
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05:24.14 | Moult | pillum: systemsettings, advanced, plasma or something |
05:24.16 | PhrkOnLsh | pillum: system settings->advanced->desktop theme |
05:24.21 | PhrkOnLsh | bai nao |
05:24.28 | pillum | bye |
05:24.29 | Moult | PhrkOnLsh: go sleep |
05:24.39 | pillum | I search in General->Appeareance |
05:24.43 | pillum | searched |
05:25.57 | pillum | Moult: PhrkOnLsh: thank you |
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05:33.55 | dfrey | My taskbar seems to be frozen. This has happened to me a few times now. Is there a way that I can reload or restart it without exiting from KDE? |
05:34.31 | pillum | dfrey: you mean the panel? |
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05:36.23 | dfrey | pillum: yes. Sorry |
05:36.36 | pillum | why sorry? |
05:36.45 | pillum | I always kill plasma |
05:37.06 | pillum | i think there is no other way |
05:37.09 | dfrey | pillum: Then it will automatically restart? |
05:37.18 | pillum | I don't think so |
05:37.42 | pillum | either use the krunner or use |
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05:38.09 | pillum | "killall plasma && sleep 3 && plasma &" |
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05:38.58 | dfrey | that worked |
05:39.16 | dfrey | now if only it didn't hang in the first place :) |
05:39.19 | pillum | did it automatically restart? |
05:39.23 | dfrey | no |
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05:40.37 | longkui | hi |
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05:41.32 | pillum | hi |
05:41.39 | pillum | Moult: it did not work |
05:41.46 | pillum | everything changed |
05:41.57 | pillum | except the panel color/style |
05:41.58 | longkui | what's up |
05:42.03 | pillum | nothing |
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05:43.43 | Moult | pillum: make your panel a different plasma theme |
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05:44.17 | pillum | I did |
05:44.27 | Moult | pillum: screenie? |
05:44.33 | pillum | wait |
05:45.52 | pillum | plasma crashed :( |
05:46.30 | pillum | http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1585/plasmadrop2imageshack83.png |
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05:48.52 | pillum | Moult: but it should look like this http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5076/plasmadrop2imageshack11.png |
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05:50.35 | Moult | pillum: oh yeah sometimes oxygen's plasma theme likes to change to blue |
05:50.39 | Moult | pillum: enable compositing |
05:50.58 | pillum | but I don't want compositing |
05:51.04 | pillum | it's too slow |
05:51.44 | Moult | pillum: i've noticed it happens every so often when compositing is not enabled |
05:51.50 | Moult | pillum: normally a restart of x fixes it |
05:52.45 | pillum | now, it's fine |
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05:54.14 | pillum | didn't need to restart |
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05:57.15 | JukeBoxHero | where is the font stored when do install it with font installer? |
05:57.16 | JukeBoxHero | its not in /usr/share/fonts |
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06:04.36 | makmanalp | hello, i'm having this issue where i'm compiling kde from trunk as described here: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 . I'm confused as to where I'm supposed to put the python stuff coming from plasma. It's trying to install some python script from plasma into /usr/lib/, whereas it normally installs all the other stuff in the user homedir. Can I avoid overwriting stuff that's in my acual python path? I found a bugreport: https://bugs.kde.org/s |
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06:08.33 | longkui | anybody in china? |
06:10.30 | Ajian | me |
06:11.04 | longkui | where? |
06:11.10 | Ajian | BeiJing |
06:11.19 | longkui | i'm in nanjing |
06:11.23 | Ajian | Ha ha |
06:11.35 | Ajian | ä½ å
·ä½å¨åªå¢ |
06:11.46 | longkui | how about speak in chinese |
06:12.12 | Jucato | this is an English channel. #kde-cn for a Chinese channel |
06:12.24 | Ajian | Sorry |
06:12.36 | longkui | sorry |
06:12.54 | longkui | this is my first time to use this tool |
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06:14.27 | Ajian | Which operating system you use |
06:14.46 | longkui | fedora 10 |
06:14.59 | longkui | how about u |
06:15.06 | Ajian | openSUSE 11.1 |
06:16.58 | Ajian | I don't know why I use Dolphin growing slowly after a number of copy and paste |
06:17.00 | longkui | you're a student or? |
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06:17.41 | Ajian | system engineer |
06:17.52 | longkui | envy u |
06:18.09 | longkui | i,m still a student |
06:18.23 | Ajian | very good |
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06:19.43 | Feisar | hi all, I have an odd problem with my kde4 desktop, its a new install but the colours are wrong; the panel is brown and so are icons that should be blue - I think some things are negative, but not the background?? |
06:21.00 | longkui | i'll to find a jod in this summer holiday |
06:21.00 | longkui | a jod about Linux |
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06:25.11 | Ajian | Feisar: I suggest that you use the more stable source of. I encounter these situations when I update the source of the experiment |
06:25.36 | Ajian | longkui: Do you have find it ? |
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06:26.12 | Feisar | Ajian: ok thanks, at least that stops me worrying about my graphics! |
06:26.31 | longkui | a job,no |
06:26.43 | Feisar | I can't use another at the moment though, that's what my package manager has given me |
06:26.43 | longkui | not now |
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06:28.56 | Feisar | Ajian: did it happen on and off for you? I mean were the colours right sometimes? |
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06:34.56 | oneforall | darn can't get kde4 working in kvm :( |
06:35.13 | Ajian | anyone can help Feisar, if I encounter these situations ,I will change to a stable source and reinstall the software . try more .My English is bad. |
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06:41.01 | pillum | Feisar: what is the name of the theme you use? |
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06:42.08 | MichelFX | hello |
06:42.11 | pillum | hey |
06:42.13 | MichelFX | http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8015/snapshot1.png |
06:42.26 | MichelFX | how I can solve this? |
06:42.34 | MichelFX | this is not default color |
06:42.38 | MichelFX | seem gtk |
06:42.52 | thiago_home | what? |
06:42.52 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: you sure that it isn't in /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ ? |
06:42.56 | thiago_home | where? |
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06:43.07 | pillum | MichelFX: the panel? |
06:43.11 | pillum | or dolphin? |
06:43.14 | MichelFX | no |
06:43.16 | MichelFX | yes |
06:43.20 | MichelFX | dolphin |
06:43.25 | thiago_home | dolphin looks exactly right |
06:43.36 | thiago_home | where do you see a problem? |
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06:45.53 | pillum | MichelFX: how should it look like? |
06:46.27 | pillum | it seems to be the default oxygen color scheme |
06:46.33 | thiago_home | yes |
06:46.49 | thiago_home | it's oxygen, so it looks exactly like it should look like |
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06:52.36 | xevious | is there a way to adjust the bounds of the plasma desktop to account for overscan on a tv? |
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06:53.47 | xevious | i'm running 1080p so i'd like to keep it full resolution if i play a bluray or a 1080p video file (ie. not set it in xorg.conf because it would reduce the resolution for fullscreen applications, which i don't want) |
06:54.25 | thiago_home | so in 1080p, you can't see 1080 pixels? |
06:55.10 | xevious | thiago: i have a DLP TV, which has about 30px of overscan on each edge |
06:55.54 | xevious | thiago: i'd like to have the desktop shrunk in by 30px, but have full screen applications still use the full area so 1080p video doesnt get scaled |
06:56.28 | xevious | in kde3 my workaround is empty panels on each screen edge, then the actual panels that i use are inside the empty border panels |
06:58.29 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
06:58.45 | longkui | hello,Dumble |
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06:59.21 | thiago_home | xevious: i think you'll have to fiddle with your X settings |
06:59.45 | thiago_home | if X tells plasma that the screen is 1080 pixels high, it will assume all those 1080 rows are visible |
07:00.29 | xevious | thiago: i need X to run at 1080 tho |
07:00.36 | xevious | i don't want 1080p video to be scaled |
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07:01.03 | xevious | video is edited with overscan in mind, so that's not an issue -- i just want the desktop to run in a reduced area inside a 1920x1080 display |
07:01.38 | thiago_home | well, like I said, the desktop doesn't know that some lines aren't visibile |
07:01.45 | thiago_home | the desktop wasn't made for overscan |
07:02.00 | thiago_home | so, I suggest switching your HDTV to a mode where it doesn't overscan |
07:02.08 | thiago_home | when you play a movie, switch resolutions |
07:02.13 | xevious | um |
07:02.27 | xevious | overscan is inherent with any form of projection |
07:02.29 | xevious | you can't shut it off |
07:02.43 | thiago_home | my HDTV can do 1680x1080 without overscan |
07:02.49 | pillum | you're sure you can't change the plasma settings? |
07:02.53 | thiago_home | as well as 1024x768 and lower resolutions |
07:03.02 | thiago_home | everything else has overscan |
07:03.14 | xevious | it seems like plasma - since it's an abstraction of the desktop display - should be able to be shrunk down |
07:03.15 | thiago_home | pillum: no: the panels are always attached to the borders of the screen |
07:03.28 | xevious | thiago: i want 1920x1080... |
07:03.32 | xevious | full hd resolution |
07:03.43 | xevious | so when i play a 1920x1080 video it's not scaled at all |
07:03.44 | thiago_home | well, you want 1920x1080, but you have 1920x1020 |
07:03.48 | xevious | no |
07:03.50 | xevious | listen man |
07:03.55 | thiago_home | you've just said that there are 30px overscan |
07:03.58 | xevious | yes there are |
07:04.03 | xevious | the video is still being displayed there |
07:04.06 | xevious | it's not visible |
07:04.08 | thiago_home | so you have 1920x1020 visible |
07:04.09 | pillum | because in plasmarc you can change the offset and min/max size |
07:04.12 | thiago_home | that's the problem |
07:04.25 | thiago_home | plasma doesn't know what is visible and what isn't |
07:04.39 | thiago_home | it assumes everything is because, well, it usually is |
07:04.59 | oneforall | after the spash whast the next things it loads ? |
07:05.04 | oneforall | whats* |
07:05.06 | xevious | thiago: no. i dont care about losing those pixels when playing video. i edit video professionally. when you edit a movie for television distribution you plan for overscan |
07:05.14 | thiago_home | xevious: I know |
07:05.20 | xevious | thiago: i only want the desktop applications to display in a smaller area |
07:05.21 | thiago_home | xevious: but plasma doesn't know that those pixels aren't visible |
07:05.35 | thiago_home | X tells it that the resolution is 1920x1080 |
07:05.40 | thiago_home | that's the only thing it knows |
07:05.54 | thiago_home | so it will draw things at the top and bottom 30px because they usually are visible |
07:05.57 | xevious | thiago: my kde3 workaround is to make panels that use up the overscan area. thus, when i maximize an application it can only take up the visible area |
07:06.17 | thiago_home | sure, but it still will draw stuff there |
07:06.26 | xevious | thiago: i want it to! |
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07:06.35 | thiago_home | and last I tried, plasma doesn't support two panels on one screen edge |
07:06.39 | xevious | i dont want video to be scaled into the visible area |
07:07.05 | thiago_home | so you can add a panel to the with 30px height |
07:07.08 | xevious | thiago_home: if i edit xorg.conf to eliminate the overscan, it'll cause 1080p video to be scaled |
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07:07.31 | thiago_home | and at the bottom, you'll need to make your panel include those 30px |
07:07.47 | rohitj | Hi. I use kopete and kontact. And I link my kopete contacts with my kaddressbook. Now, I want to transfer my data from one computer to another. I could transfer my kopete data, and my kaddressbook data. But the links between kaddressbook and kopete are not imported. What should I do about it? |
07:07.48 | thiago_home | but note that things will get scaled up due to the increased height |
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07:08.24 | xevious | pillum: i liked where you were going with this |
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07:09.03 | pillum | xevious: but I don't if it is working if you can the file :( |
07:09.32 | thiago_home | suggests asking in #plasma if there's any setting you can use to make it not draw on the bottom 30px of the screen |
07:09.35 | thiago_home | I don't know of any |
07:09.46 | xevious | oh there's a plasma channel nice |
07:09.51 | xevious | i'll ask them |
07:10.00 | xevious | kde should offer better hdtv integration |
07:10.35 | xevious | an overscan app that lets you drag bars to the screen edges to set your overscan area would be cool |
07:10.45 | xevious | then have that only affect non fullscreen applications |
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07:10.58 | pillum | in plasma-appletsrc there is a section for the panel |
07:12.21 | thiago_home | xevious: yes, maybe KDE should |
07:12.31 | thiago_home | xevious: but the point is that HDTVs are new |
07:12.43 | thiago_home | and people are more worried about traditional monitor problems |
07:14.55 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: you're there? |
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07:20.09 | pillum | xevious: can't you just crop the video? |
07:21.00 | thiago_home | mplayer supports that |
07:21.23 | thiago_home | but only if moving the panels off the edge isn't supported |
07:22.18 | pillum | only if what isn't supported from what? |
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07:23.05 | pillum | vlc also supports that |
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07:23.11 | maniel | hi |
07:23.12 | thiago_home | from plasma |
07:23.21 | pillum | but I dunno what you mean with isn't supported |
07:23.45 | thiago_home | if plasma can't move the panel off the screen edge |
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07:24.46 | maniel | i'm using kde 4.2 in ubuntu and yakuake 2.9.4, it seems that yakuake doesn't remember my shell settings at all, i'm configuring it to be transparent but after relogin there is plain black terminal |
07:24.48 | pillum | and why is cropping only usable when moving the panel off the edge isn't supported? |
07:24.53 | maniel | in konsole it works |
07:25.06 | pillum | oh |
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07:25.21 | pillum | maniel: did you set 'change transparency for each tab' ? |
07:25.45 | pillum | oh |
07:25.51 | pillum | that's only for the color |
07:26.11 | pillum | may be you changed the permission of the settings file |
07:26.32 | pillum | and now you can't save you settings because you don't permissions for it |
07:28.25 | pillum | anyhow, that's the reason why I saw the "Mozilla: First Run" website everytime I started firefox3 |
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07:30.07 | pillum | maniel: btw: there is already yakuake 2.9.5 |
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07:34.59 | maniel | pillum: i changed it for only open tab there is, restaqrted yakuake and "Current Profile" is still plain black and 1k lines of scrollback |
07:35.33 | pillum | do you have the permissions for the settings file? |
07:35.55 | maniel | i've changed colorscheme to white on black which in my case is white on transparent black:> |
07:36.02 | maniel | yeah, ofcourse |
07:36.30 | pillum | you're sure? |
07:37.36 | pillum | Sho_'s not there :( |
07:37.54 | pillum | you could ask him if he was |
07:38.07 | pillum | he is a developer of yakuake |
07:38.41 | maniel | pillum: `find .kde4 -type f -exec ls -l '{}' \;` returned no files belonging to root |
07:38.56 | maniel | or without rw permissions |
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07:43.08 | pillum | can't help you :( |
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07:45.58 | oneforall | darn xfce is working how besides the Xorg.config can I find out whats freezing up kde4 ? |
07:46.25 | oneforall | in kvm(qenu) |
07:46.53 | pillum | you mean qemu? |
07:48.28 | pillum | even if you meant qemu or not: I don't know :( |
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07:50.31 | pillum | oneforall: what says the output? |
07:50.45 | pillum | anything special |
07:50.46 | pillum | ? |
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07:53.24 | oneforall | kvm85 |
07:53.35 | pillum | what? |
07:53.55 | oneforall | it the ehanced qenu |
07:54.24 | oneforall | uses the kvm-intel module amd one |
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07:55.51 | oneforall | the log as in the Xorg.0.log ? |
07:56.31 | pillum | any log |
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07:56.46 | pillum | doesn't the terminal say anything |
07:56.48 | pillum | ? |
07:57.11 | oneforall | I'll rerun kde and only thing I can do is from ctrl-alt-2 . is quit :( ctrl-alt-f1(backspace etc ) just doesn't work . |
07:57.43 | JukeBoxHero | this is weird i can instal lthe fonts but not view them? |
07:58.02 | JukeBoxHero | coz they're in /usr? |
07:58.15 | oneforall | its just after the spash finishes and its totally frozen . can get to the km monitor with ctrl-alt-2 but f1 2 3 etc don't work |
07:58.15 | JukeBoxHero | what is the use of font viewer then. . |
07:58.54 | pillum | you found them? |
07:59.15 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: why can't you use them? |
07:59.47 | pillum | oneforall: maybe it's compositing? |
07:59.48 | JukeBoxHero | where did i say that |
08:00.01 | JukeBoxHero | <JukeBoxHero> what is the use of font viewer then. . |
08:00.10 | JukeBoxHero | if you cant VIEW them as user |
08:00.19 | pillum | I thought you mean font installer |
08:00.23 | pillum | sry :D |
08:00.48 | pillum | which font viewer? |
08:00.56 | oneforall | is that on by default now kde(trunk but not the lastest few days old ) |
08:01.07 | JukeBoxHero | kde default font viewer |
08:01.19 | pillum | what's the name of the application? |
08:01.29 | JukeBoxHero | Font Viewer |
08:01.37 | pillum | command name? |
08:01.42 | JukeBoxHero | dunno |
08:01.50 | pillum | make a screenshot of the app |
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08:02.00 | oneforall | its not on in xorg.conf. just a plain jane one so to speak X -configure add the modes |
08:03.11 | pillum | maybe it's a qemu bug or kde isn't able to be run on qemu? |
08:03.25 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: ? |
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08:05.52 | JukeBoxHero | pillum: http://www.imgx.org/files/37834_rz5xb/pkit4.png |
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08:07.04 | pillum | that's weird |
08:07.30 | pillum | I do can view the fonts |
08:08.01 | pillum | btw: whats is your current font settings? (just asking :)) |
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08:08.58 | pillum | and your irc client? |
08:08.58 | oneforall | last I tried 4.2.68 worked . |
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08:10.01 | oneforall | first tiem though it was missing the oxegen icons etc :) thats when I found out it was seperate |
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08:10.51 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: (1. what's your font and irc client) 2. start kfontview from terminal |
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08:11.17 | pillum | why are you using kde through qemu? |
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08:12.10 | simion314 | hi, i set up a debian lenny with kde 3.5 for someone and it neads a GUI application for mounting .iso files is there a kde3 or qt3 application that can do this? or maybe scripts for konqueror in kde3 to right click and mount iso? |
08:12.48 | pillum | simion314: you already googled that? |
08:12.57 | pillum | there is MountISO |
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08:15.16 | pillum | simion314: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 |
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08:18.25 | pillum | I don't like this silence :) |
08:20.11 | pillum | still silence :( |
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08:21.19 | simion314 | pillum: thx, i will try it now |
08:21.31 | pillum | np |
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08:23.32 | lejocelyn | hi, strange I have a pdf that is badly displayed by Okular |
08:23.44 | pinotree | link to it? |
08:23.59 | lejocelyn | can't |
08:24.01 | lejocelyn | it's a local pdf |
08:24.07 | pillum | uploading it? |
08:24.08 | pillum | :D |
08:24.18 | lejocelyn | where ? |
08:24.25 | pillum | where you wnat |
08:24.26 | pillum | want |
08:24.42 | pillum | there are many one click hosters |
08:25.11 | lejocelyn | well, I never had to use them, don't know any |
08:25.15 | lejocelyn | a link to one ? |
08:25.16 | pillum | like this: http://uploaded.to/ |
08:25.56 | pillum | but you probably know rapidshare.com ? |
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08:26.26 | lejocelyn | ok |
08:26.27 | lejocelyn | http://ul.to/354fri |
08:26.35 | lejocelyn | the firrst page of this document is badly displayed |
08:27.11 | lejocelyn | when you look at the thumbimage at the left |
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08:27.38 | pillum | it looks normal :) |
08:27.39 | lejocelyn | the text is complete but not on the main screen |
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08:27.51 | peterbrett | How do I remove the default addressbook from kaddressbook, and MAKE IT STAY REMOVED? |
08:27.52 | pillum | could you make a screenshot? |
08:28.16 | peterbrett | Whenever I restart KAddressbook it comes back, like a very determined zombie intent on consumption of human brains |
08:28.17 | lejocelyn | pillum: don't you have the pdf ? |
08:28.21 | pillum | I have |
08:28.22 | lejocelyn | don't have the same issue ? |
08:28.35 | pillum | make a screenshot |
08:28.39 | pillum | so I can see what you mean |
08:28.46 | pillum | but I don't see anything strange |
08:28.51 | pinotree | yep, please do a screenshot |
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08:30.28 | pillum | here's my screenshot: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2801/plasmadrop2imageshack20.png |
08:30.38 | pillum | it looks normal |
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08:31.44 | lejocelyn | pillum: well, it is normal on yours |
08:31.47 | lejocelyn | :( |
08:32.01 | pinotree | which version of the poppler-qt4 library do you have? |
08:32.26 | pillum | me? |
08:32.41 | pinotree | no, lejocelyn |
08:32.41 | lejocelyn | 0.8.7 |
08:32.42 | JukeBoxHero | pillum: font is Droid Sans and irc is Konversation |
08:33.05 | pillum | thx |
08:33.13 | pillum | you're slow :P |
08:33.14 | pinotree | lejocelyn: a bit old, and that could be the problem; suggestion is, whenever possible, to update to 0.10.x |
08:33.28 | lejocelyn | ok |
08:33.44 | pillum | JukeBoxHero: can you view fonts if you manually open them?= |
08:33.47 | JukeBoxHero | i'm busy |
08:34.02 | lejocelyn | :D |
08:34.05 | JukeBoxHero | i just opened kfontview as sudo |
08:34.12 | JukeBoxHero | and i got a xmessage |
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08:34.37 | JukeBoxHero | Could not start ksmserver, check your installtion |
08:34.45 | JukeBoxHero | if i click ok, kde will crash |
08:35.23 | pillum | and not opening it as root ? |
08:35.24 | JukeBoxHero | readies for the crash |
08:35.27 | pillum | in terminal |
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08:37.54 | JukeBoxHero | like i said, a splendid crash :) |
08:38.30 | pillum | and you have ksmserver installed? :D |
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08:40.07 | MrDudle | how different is the GUI from gnome to KDE |
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08:41.16 | pillum | I'm back :;) |
08:41.20 | JukeBoxHero | i dont even know what ksmserver is pillum |
08:41.28 | JukeBoxHero | it came installed with kde |
08:41.56 | pillum | ksmserver is KDE's session manager. |
08:42.04 | annma | MrDudle: get a liveCD and see |
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08:42.28 | annma | MrDudle: obviously here we will only say good things and we also do not know Gnome |
08:42.30 | MrDudle | annma, i'm going to be using a flavor of linux that is kde |
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08:42.42 | MrDudle | and was curious before i started playing |
08:42.50 | annma | curious of what? |
08:42.55 | annma | we cannot compare |
08:43.00 | annma | it's just a matter of taste |
08:43.04 | MrDudle | k |
08:43.05 | annma | look and feel |
08:43.09 | MrDudle | ah kk |
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08:43.16 | MrDudle | that's the answer i've been looking for :) |
08:43.29 | oneforall | well the Xorg.0.log look fine |
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08:44.37 | oneforall | after x stats whats the loog to see how kde was doing to look at? |
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08:44.54 | oneforall | or would it just use the Xorg... one too |
08:44.54 | devilsadvocate_ | where is the font size for the folderview icons set? |
08:44.58 | pillum | I think it writes to stdout |
08:45.15 | pillum | folderview settings |
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08:45.36 | pillum | oh that isn't font size |
08:45.49 | pillum | or is it? |
08:46.17 | devilsadvocate_ | no it isnt |
08:46.17 | oneforall | duh . I'' just do startx 2>&1 | tee logit :) |
08:47.00 | Blizzerand | I use Ubuntu and I installed kde desktop environment (thought why not give it a try and I loved it) . |
08:47.08 | Blizzerand | But now I want to reinstall kde (without losing gnome) ! Help please |
08:47.50 | pillum | why would you lose gnome when you reinstall kde? |
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08:48.22 | Blizzerand | <PROTECTED> |
08:48.30 | psteyn | ask #ubuntu |
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08:49.09 | pillum | devilsadvocate_: |
08:49.28 | devilsadvocate_ | pillum: |
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08:49.40 | pillum | you already looked in system settings ? |
08:49.53 | pillum | there is a desktop entry in font settings |
08:50.10 | devilsadvocate_ | pillum: i cant see any obvious connection between this and that.. can figure out which font type plasma is using |
08:50.18 | devilsadvocate_ | looks for desktop entry |
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08:51.04 | pillum | and? |
08:51.08 | devilsadvocate_ | pillum: that worked. thanks :) |
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08:59.17 | pillum | compiz and kde shows some pictures with a an intensive tint and I don't know why |
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09:01.22 | pillum | hm |
09:01.26 | pillum | now it doesn't |
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09:02.00 | pillum | how can I change the kickoff icon? |
09:02.53 | comawhite | pillum: right click on kickoff |
09:03.12 | comawhite | Application Launcher settings |
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09:03.33 | pillum | and then? |
09:03.52 | pillum | there's only "switch tabs on hover" and keyboard shortcut |
09:03.52 | comawhite | click on the KDE icon? |
09:04.00 | comawhite | what version you using? |
09:04.05 | pillum | kde 4.2.3 |
09:04.14 | comawhite | hmm I'm using 4.3.0-beta1 |
09:04.29 | comawhite | I guess thats a 4.3.0 feature? |
09:04.38 | pillum | why do you think that everyone is using an unstable beta version? :D |
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09:04.52 | comawhite | because newer is always better ;) |
09:05.08 | pillum | no, it's unstable as I said :P |
09:05.25 | comawhite | I know 4.3.0 allows showing the actual names of the applications instead of the annoying descriptions now |
09:05.34 | pillum | and the older intel driver were better than the new ones |
09:05.43 | comawhite | I use nVidia ;) |
09:05.53 | pillum | which descriptions? |
09:05.56 | pillum | and where? |
09:06.19 | comawhite | it now allows it to show "Konqueror" instead of just "Web Browser" |
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09:06.31 | oneforall | wow just sen inm my log hp can't be run as root . thats like telling the owner you can't do that. Window bs there. |
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09:06.54 | comawhite | oneforall: hp can't run root? |
09:06.56 | pillum | if you hover over it with you mouse it shows konqueror :P |
09:06.56 | comawhite | o_O |
09:07.07 | comawhite | i know but now its the other way around ;) |
09:07.28 | oneforall | yeah just seen that in my log I made to see if I can catch why kde is freezing in kvm :0 |
09:08.03 | pillum | hp is what? |
09:08.04 | oneforall | feels like ms and trying to stop every one from using dos lol |
09:08.08 | pillum | hewlett packard? |
09:08.13 | oneforall | snipping the power user |
09:08.25 | oneforall | yeah hewlett packard |
09:08.32 | comawhite | trying to login to KDE as root? |
09:08.44 | comawhite | thats KDM's fault ;) |
09:08.46 | N3mZ | as woot ? |
09:10.07 | oneforall | yeha both from user in kvm and root . get more info and if root can then first thought permisions etc . But root aint no super user any more when you can;'t run things as root. thats sick |
09:10.21 | pillum | comawhite: hows opendesktop ? |
09:10.31 | oneforall | I don't use kdm other than to just see if it works . startx for me |
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09:12.34 | comawhite | now going to install amarok-svn |
09:12.57 | comawhite | oh wait I'm using 4.2.86 now |
09:13.00 | comawhite | xD |
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09:13.49 | pillum | what is 4.2.86 |
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09:14.26 | comawhite | the svn version |
09:14.51 | comawhite | 4.3.0 beta1 = 4.2.85 |
09:15.03 | oneforall | err accually its the hp-system tray . I'm user hp would still work |
09:15.05 | pillum | oh |
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09:15.11 | comawhite | 4.3.0 beta 2 will be 4.2.90 iirc or is that RC1? |
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09:16.14 | oneforall | darn I forget now if thats a kde4 part or hp. But I really don't think thats the problem of the freezing :) |
09:17.35 | oneforall | neponmonkserver looks like it loaded fine . Soprano has a long list but so far looks fine |
09:19.18 | oneforall | then kmix looks fine . but then I got that one I posted witht he backtrace . But its hard to tell if thats when I went to the ctrl-alt-2(qemu monitor) and did quit |
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09:20.22 | oneforall | whats /usr/lib64/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so ? |
09:20.42 | oneforall | some sesame 2 gane for kids :) |
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09:20.50 | oneforall | gane/game |
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09:23.41 | pillum | bad intel drivers :( |
09:23.43 | pillum | crashed my kde |
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09:33.25 | annma | pillum: hmm never had any crash here on Intel |
09:33.39 | annma | besides drivers would crash X |
09:33.49 | pillum | k, it crash X |
09:33.51 | annma | not KDE alone |
09:33.59 | annma | what distro? |
09:34.15 | pillum | are you now satisfied? :D |
09:34.19 | pillum | no distro |
09:34.28 | annma | no distro? no wonder |
09:34.34 | pillum | freebsd |
09:34.42 | annma | you build Xorg and driver from source? |
09:34.49 | pillum | yes, I do |
09:35.02 | annma | so you probably are doing something very wrong |
09:35.17 | pillum | I know |
09:35.20 | annma | crashing X is quite bad enough |
09:35.33 | pillum | there are so many things you can do wrong with "sudo make install clean" :D |
09:35.47 | annma | I build KDE from source |
09:35.53 | annma | I am not sudo though |
09:35.55 | pillum | me too |
09:36.01 | annma | KDE does not need admin rights |
09:36.09 | pillum | need sudo to install |
09:36.16 | annma | but I don't build my stupid kernel, Xorg and drivers |
09:36.22 | annma | not KDE |
09:36.34 | pillum | not KDE? |
09:36.38 | annma | no, not KDE |
09:36.46 | pillum | what not KDE? |
09:36.55 | annma | does not need to be root to install |
09:37.08 | pillum | everything needs to be root |
09:37.33 | pillum | except things which will be installed in $HOME |
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09:37.45 | annma | no |
09:37.51 | annma | that's a misconception |
09:37.51 | pillum | yes |
09:37.55 | annma | a bad one |
09:38.11 | annma | anyway, I do not use a distro to build |
09:38.18 | annma | or a bsd |
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09:38.47 | pillum | maybe linux user doesn't need to be root |
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09:39.33 | vpilo | hi, running 4.3 beta1 here.. shouldn't the Plasma notifications *not* get focus nor appear in the alt-tab switching? |
09:39.56 | pillum | but if I'm not root it says that I don't have sufficient permission |
09:40.09 | annma | pillum: anyway see with dfreebsd |
09:40.21 | annma | I only speak froma KDE devel point of view |
09:40.34 | annma | vpilo: tell me how to reproduce? |
09:41.51 | vpilo | annma: just have any app send a KNotification, like Kopete, KMess, KTorrent.. then alt-tab - I can see "Plasma Workspace" in the list, and kwin blurs/highlights it when i switch back and forth to it |
09:42.05 | annma | I usenone of those |
09:42.20 | annma | issue a bug report I guess |
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09:42.44 | oneforall | well installing to the user or global is 2 diffrent things |
09:42.55 | vpilo | annma: do you use *no* apps which outputs notifications? :P |
09:43.20 | annma | I guess yes |
09:43.37 | vpilo | annma: iirc it works with network applet's "you're (dis)?connected now" and powerdevil's "no more AC" notifications |
09:44.12 | annma | vpilo: so you mean I need to alt-tab the moment there's a notification? |
09:44.17 | vpilo | annma: yes |
09:44.38 | vpilo | annma: they're also stealing focus from the current application, now :s |
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09:45.39 | vpilo | annma: uh i just got another but it didn't steal focus this time, what the.. |
09:45.49 | annma | I don't get notifications |
09:46.05 | annma | I am preparing this laptop for a talk & demos though |
09:46.13 | annma | so I loked some stuff with kiosk |
09:46.16 | annma | locked |
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09:46.56 | annma | I did not get the notification when I unplugged |
09:47.33 | oneforall | wow thats weird I reopened it and that weird new thing , Desktop Folder opened and now its frozenn |
09:47.51 | annma | ouch reopend what? |
09:47.58 | oneforall | whast with this desktop folder |
09:48.00 | oneforall | kde4 |
09:48.09 | annma | your install is messed |
09:48.13 | annma | try a new user |
09:48.19 | oneforall | making the log from user and comparing :) |
09:48.27 | annma | log? |
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09:49.43 | oneforall | no its fresh install but kde4 is freezing on me . user root don't matter . xfce works fine . I'll have to kill kvm and emu-system-x86_64 -hda /ho again and check the log |
09:49.54 | oneforall | yeah statx 2>&1 | tee logit :) |
09:50.06 | oneforall | with the r too thou ;) |
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09:55.27 | oneforall | http://pastebin.ca/1423524 maybe some one else can see somethign |
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09:57.39 | annma | fresh install from what? |
09:57.52 | annma | what dies tro is taht |
09:57.58 | annma | what distro is taht |
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09:58.06 | annma | what distro is that oneforall |
09:58.46 | annma | oneforall: distro please! |
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09:59.12 | annma | slackware apparently |
09:59.24 | annma | what do they put in KDE |
09:59.46 | oneforall | my own 64bit . based on slack yeah :) |
10:00.02 | annma | your own??? |
10:00.18 | annma | what do you mean by that? |
10:00.31 | oneforall | yeah I cross compiled to 64bit a couple of years ago now |
10:00.43 | annma | what the hell doe sthat mean |
10:00.56 | annma | you cross compile what |
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10:01.10 | annma | more precisely from your log |
10:01.15 | oneforall | 32bit to 64bit |
10:01.22 | annma | kbuildsycoca4(3235) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Actions in "ServiceMenus/ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). |
10:01.35 | annma | what's this ServiceMenus/ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop |
10:02.19 | annma | then is console-kit build? |
10:02.32 | annma | read your log yourself and insvestigate about it |
10:03.13 | annma | surely if you are so advanced to cross compile you can try to see about this output |
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10:07.10 | oneforall | yeah lookign at that now . part of kdeutill I see |
10:08.13 | oneforall | oh duh part of the ark app |
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10:09.11 | oneforall | I seen with 4.2.68 that a lot of the desktop files with the app finder scan tool were getting that error about the missing ; |
10:09.25 | oneforall | but it never froze it :) |
10:09.38 | pillum | gn8 |
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10:12.06 | annma | really |
10:12.21 | annma | oneforall: is this for your use only? or are you a packeger |
10:13.07 | annma | if you're doing your own cooking I suggest you first build and test kdelibs and kdepimlibs and kdebase |
10:13.19 | oneforall | I package all yes and so far it for me . But I might release it |
10:13.40 | annma | if you're a packager then you direct all your errors to the packagers mailing list |
10:14.06 | annma | but first reinstall clean only kdelibs and kdebase (and their dependencies) |
10:14.12 | annma | see if that works |
10:14.33 | annma | if not, state clearly what does not work |
10:14.49 | oneforall | ah sounds good . might be a diff in the order of install eh |
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10:33.33 | emg-2 | Hi. If I want fresh version of KCacheGrind, I should use KDE? |
10:33.45 | emg-2 | KCacheGrind is integrated in KDE? Is it called QCacheGrind now? |
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10:36.49 | emg-2 | When will be KCacheGrind released? |
10:36.55 | emg-2 | s/KCacheGrind/KDE 4/ |
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10:45.23 | emg-2 | :S |
10:45.50 | annma | emg-2: it's in kdesdk |
10:46.12 | annma | but your distributionshould provide it for you surely |
10:46.15 | emg-2 | How it is called there? KCacheGrind, or QCacheGrind? |
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10:46.33 | annma | so your question does not really make sense |
10:46.47 | annma | kcachegrind |
10:47.28 | emg-2 | annma: I see that there are many commits to KCacheGrind in SVN. It's intensively developed. But there is no way to get fresh version without research and question like mine, because on KCacheGrind, there is still version 0.4.6, based on code from year 2005 |
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10:47.50 | emg-2 | s/on KCacheGrind/on KCacheGrind page/ |
10:48.15 | annma | what distro? |
10:48.29 | emg-2 | ie. official KCacheGrind package is from year 2005, whereas the code is actively developed. It looks like KCacheGrind sinked into KDE ;) |
10:48.34 | emg-2 | annma: we use CentOS 5 |
10:48.44 | annma | KCacheGrind latest is released with KDE 4.3 beta1 which was released 2 days ago |
10:48.48 | annma | that's latest |
10:48.53 | emg-2 | ahm |
10:48.57 | annma | latest stable is with KDE 4.2.3 |
10:49.05 | annma | so ask your distro to provide those |
10:49.08 | emg-2 | I wonder how can I use it with CentOS 5 |
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10:49.27 | annma | what KDE version has this CentOS? |
10:49.53 | emg-2 | annma: 3.5 |
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10:50.14 | annma | so you can't have latest KDE apps as you'll get KDE 3.5 apps |
10:50.29 | annma | either upgrade or build from source |
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10:50.51 | annma | there's no way to pull KDE4 at all? |
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10:51.56 | emg-2 | annma: I'm searching right now |
10:54.41 | annma | website is bad |
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12:41.41 | ironfroggy_ | Using the Thumbnails Aside effect, is it possible to jump to the actual window or move/resize/close the thumbnails directly? |
12:42.41 | XULien | hi all, have someone who use kadressbook with openldap? cause i can read it but dont write :( |
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12:46.21 | jmut | kde 4. anyone experineced all of sudden wipe out titles in bottom bar http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7/buggykde.png |
12:46.39 | jmut | this is second time this happens to me and only way to fix is restart :( |
12:47.59 | annma | jmut: fedora? |
12:48.21 | jmut | sidux - you may say debian |
12:48.28 | annma | ok |
12:48.34 | annma | just restart plasma |
12:48.42 | jmut | how do I do this? |
12:48.43 | annma | in a terminal type |
12:48.46 | annma | kquitapp plasma |
12:48.50 | annma | then |
12:48.51 | annma | plasma & |
12:49.11 | annma | I don't know a fix for it not to happen again |
12:49.20 | jmut | mirracle |
12:49.22 | jmut | thank you so much |
12:49.28 | annma | if you have 4.2.2 you can update to 4.2.3 |
12:49.34 | jmut | I will.. one of those days :D |
12:49.39 | annma | :) OK |
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12:51.24 | fowxzs | kewl |
12:51.26 | fowxzs | hi |
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12:55.29 | white_pelican | can someone help me with a widget I would like to install in kde 4? |
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12:57.19 | annma | sure |
12:57.52 | white_pelican | ty |
12:58.08 | white_pelican | ok, I would like to download a widget from kde look |
12:58.18 | white_pelican | it looks like i have to build it though |
12:58.36 | annma | can you paste the URL here please? |
12:58.38 | white_pelican | do I use the standard procedure,? configure, make, make install? |
12:58.43 | white_pelican | sure |
12:58.55 | white_pelican | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+(Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid)?content=94106 |
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12:59.23 | annma | white_pelican: look, you have install commands |
12:59.30 | annma | the guy made an install script |
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12:59.46 | annma | tar -jxf yawp* |
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13:00.08 | white_pelican | ah, I see that now |
13:00.09 | annma | cd yawp* |
13:00.11 | white_pelican | ty annma |
13:00.28 | annma | what kde version do you have? |
13:00.50 | white_pelican | I'm so used to downloading a deb (I'm using kubuntu) and installing it that way :) |
13:00.56 | white_pelican | 4.2.3 |
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13:01.24 | annma | OK that's good |
13:01.58 | white_pelican | I am waiting for them to make 4.3 beta 1 available |
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13:04.12 | white_pelican | any improvement to kde 4 would be welcome |
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13:04.34 | white_pelican | I'm still adjusting to using widgets and plasmoids |
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13:14.45 | gr1m-lap | is it true that 4.3 allows per display containments and virtual desktops? |
13:15.02 | Jejem | ? |
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13:15.59 | annma | gr1m-lap: yes |
13:16.05 | MoDaX | gr1m-lap: 4.2 allows that, just option is hidden in config |
13:16.17 | gr1m-lap | woohoo |
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13:16.54 | annma | 4.3 set the option through GUI in dashboard |
13:17.05 | MoDaX | gr1m-lap: http://forum.kde.org/linking-activities-to-virtual-desktops-t-19397.html |
13:17.24 | gr1m-lap | I heard it was disabled in 4.2 because it was buggy.. which is not hard to believe as there are quite a few multi head bugs still in 4.2 |
13:17.59 | gr1m-lap | available in the gui indicates the devs think it's stable now |
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13:18.58 | Xzaws | ppl could anybody explain why do I get "grfical artifacts" in KDE4.2... sometimes small black squares appearss at random positions at Kate and Kiten |
13:19.09 | Xzaws | have not seem them at Konsole yet |
13:19.41 | MoDaX | Xzaws: due to qt 4.5 |
13:19.43 | Xzaws | QT - 4.5 ( I need it for Kimpanel) |
13:19.47 | Xzaws | oh |
13:19.50 | Xzaws | T_T |
13:20.00 | Xzaws | so I should just wait for patch |
13:20.00 | gr1m-lap | hmm odd, I don't get those |
13:20.22 | Xzaws | MoDaX, thx |
13:20.36 | gr1m-lap | what is kimpanel? |
13:21.19 | Xzaws | QT face for SCIM and ibus |
13:21.25 | Xzaws | QT4 |
13:21.58 | Xzaws | may be UIM would be supported soon |
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13:39.30 | kgx | is there any application in kde4.2 that minimizes applications to the system tray? i use kdocker on 3.5, but it doesn't work on 4.2 |
13:39.35 | kgx | !kdocker |
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13:53.13 | schafi | does anyone know if the plasma api is available online? |
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13:55.50 | pinotree | schafi: http://api.kde.org |
13:56.01 | schafi | pinotree: ah thanks alot |
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14:04.09 | xxtjaxx | hey people |
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14:07.51 | MakkaPakka | Just installed kubuntu 9.x .. wtf happened to kscd? It's ugly and useless! It comes with 4 or 5 'skins' that are .. well .. dodgy. And the docs on kde.org are for the old kde3.x version. Anyone recommend a better CD player? |
14:08.55 | annma | docs need people to write updates |
14:09.05 | annma | why is it useless? it does not play? |
14:09.23 | annma | Amarok plays CDs and also Dragon player I think |
14:09.46 | annma | yup Dragon Player |
14:09.58 | annma | MakkaPakka: ^ |
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14:10.14 | MakkaPakka | There's no indication of what track I'm playing and it no longer minimises into the thingo bar |
14:10.17 | MakkaPakka | looks |
14:11.08 | annma | it displays tracks fo rme |
14:11.25 | MakkaPakka | gah! equally crap .. still no track numbers. How hard is it to create a CD player? I'd have expected bazillions |
14:11.36 | annma | lol |
14:11.42 | annma | no track numbers? |
14:11.58 | root__ | <-- hi all --> |
14:12.00 | MakkaPakka | 84 tracks on the CD. I need to know which one I'm playing |
14:12.35 | Half-Left | kscs needs some artist love for sure :) |
14:12.42 | Half-Left | kscd* |
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14:13.41 | MakkaPakka | The old one was just fine IIRC |
14:14.08 | Half-Left | well they have to port it |
14:14.55 | Half-Left | And look for one on kde-apps.org if you're not satisfied |
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14:15.41 | root__ | how to show the unmount parti. in hard disk from fedora |
14:15.44 | schafi | it's funny to see people still using cds in 2009 :-) |
14:15.55 | Half-Left | hehe |
14:16.13 | Half-Left | I just rip them with Audex |
14:16.18 | CristianoFurtado | Good Morning. What the channel of kde brazil (portugueses)? |
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14:16.33 | CristianoFurtado | I use Ekaaty Linux. |
14:16.47 | MakkaPakka | Audio production .. these are CDs of stings and sweeps .. I could rip them, but I still need to look at the jacket every time I play them so it's kind of pointless |
14:17.08 | MakkaPakka | gives up and uses iTunes in vmware |
14:17.14 | Half-Left | lol |
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14:17.44 | Half-Left | talk about exaggeration |
14:17.47 | Jucato | CristianoFurtado: #kde-brasil |
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14:18.19 | schafi | it's a pitty that kscd doesn't provides all features of itunes ... I understand your problem ... omg |
14:18.20 | MakkaPakka | Half-Left: not at all. no player I can find for kde gives me what I need and I have vmware open |
14:18.33 | CristianoFurtado | thanks Jucato |
14:19.30 | FreakGuard | kalendar storage fails... where to look for something useful to debug? |
14:19.40 | BtbN | Is it possible to configure KWrite/Kate so i can scroll down until the last line of text is at the top of the view? |
14:20.07 | Half-Left | MakkaPakka: as I said, look in your repo, or get one from kde-apps.org or use the kde3 one, whats the bug issue? |
14:20.49 | Half-Left | maybe will email the kscd devs and do a Oxygen/Air theme for the player |
14:20.52 | MakkaPakka | I took a look in the repo .. didn't seem to be much there thats kde. Some GTK stuff and plenty of CLI |
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14:21.22 | Half-Left | Well use a gtk one then if you need to, it won't kill you |
14:21.23 | MakkaPakka | I'll look at kde-apps .. but for now, vmware is getting me out of a pickle :-D |
14:21.33 | ppzkdb | hum small question...is it possible to force konqueror to understand the smb protocol (smb://) while both samba and konqueror have been setup separately? |
14:22.21 | MakkaPakka | But while I'm here .. how do I create a 'session' in kde4? The one from kde3 seems to still load, but has dificulty with some apps so I'd like to delete it and create a new one |
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14:22.50 | BtbN | ppzkdb: If the samba kio_slave isn't installed, no kde-app will be able to use smb |
14:23.09 | ppzkdb | BtbN: I get an error message referring to kio_slave |
14:23.19 | ppzkdb | how can I install or reinstall kio_slave? |
14:24.20 | ppzkdb | (i.e. is it possible at all?) |
14:24.47 | BtbN | ppzkdb: build kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves with samba support enabled |
14:25.28 | ppzkdb | BtbN: is that the only option :( ? Unfortunately I am struggling with an EEEpc with Xandros on it. No build tools are setup |
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14:25.56 | Peste_Bubonica | Hi all... |
14:26.02 | BtbN | If you use a binary distribution, your distributor has to build it with samba enabled to make you able to use samba. |
14:26.05 | Peste_Bubonica | can I set compression rate of formats using ARK ? |
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14:36.36 | hoban | good morning everyone. |
14:37.22 | hoban | can someone tell me why there are two instances of "kio_imap4" running whenever kmail is up which account for (collectively) 100% cpu usage? |
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14:38.06 | hoban | distro - archlinux, kde version - 4.2.2 |
14:39.10 | castingcrowns | Is it possible in kmail to display indevidual emails as html? I know of setting Prefer html over text for a folder, but can i manually do this on a indevidual emal basis when i open it? |
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14:40.59 | hoban | castingcrowns, when you open the mail, it'll say at the top of the message that it is html and that if you like you can display it as intended instead of the raw html |
14:41.05 | hoban | you just have to click on the link that it provides |
14:42.24 | castingcrowns | hoban: I have seen than on some emails, bot others do not display this and all I see are html links all over the place. |
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14:42.59 | hoban | castingcrowns, html "links" or "tags" |
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14:43.46 | hoban | if the email looks like html, it should be treated as I mentioned above. If it's a message containing a bunch of URLs, it's not an html email and will be displayed as text...which happens to contain links |
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14:43.54 | castingcrowns | hoban: well its got " <http://www.whatever> all over the place |
14:44.22 | hoban | castingcrowns, yeah, that's just spam mail most likely...but that's not an html tag, that's just a url |
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14:46.28 | castingcrowns | hoban: Its actually saved online purchase invoices. |
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14:47.07 | castingcrowns | hoban: to view it, I have to enable "prefer html over text" for the folder, then open it...then dissable it when im done. I just want to do that but on an indevidual basis |
14:47.14 | hoban | castingcrowns, that's fine, but unless you see tags like <html><head>, etc. it's not html mial |
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14:56.19 | castingcrowns | hoban: So do you know of a way to view individual emails as "prefer html over text" \ |
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14:56.34 | tbeadle | I use mutt for my mail client and used to use kbiff (in kde3) to notify me of new mail. Is there something similar for kde4? |
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14:57.30 | hoban | castingcrowns, it's always been automagic for me, sorry |
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14:58.54 | Half-Left | tbeadle: Kmail does this but you can get other mail notification widgets or use the 'Incoming Messaging' widget |
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14:59.24 | tbeadle | ok. I'll take a look around. thanks |
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15:00.58 | castingcrowns | hmm |
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15:12.55 | tbeadle | Half-Left: I'm using maildir to store my mail and I can't seem to find any plasmoid that handles maildir. |
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15:14.07 | Half-Left | tbeadle: I said kmail, didn't say anything about others, although there is a gmail third party one |
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15:14.47 | tbeadle | but I don't want to use kmail as my client. Can I just have it act as a notifier? |
15:15.24 | Half-Left | only for kmail |
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15:28.48 | frojnd | hello there |
15:29.27 | frojnd | I havea kde 4.2.3 When I change a theme. Only plasma changes, widgets and panel. But not all the other programs... |
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15:29.30 | frojnd | why is that? |
15:29.39 | thiago_home | where do you change the theme? |
15:29.44 | frojnd | I'd like to have a konqueror in a style like plasma is if I change a theme |
15:30.15 | frojnd | thiago_home: right click on a wallpaper -> theme -> New theme install or dl and apply |
15:30.24 | thiago_home | you changed the plasma theme only |
15:30.28 | thiago_home | that's why it applied to plasma |
15:30.42 | frojnd | heh :) |
15:30.51 | frojnd | where do I change the whole style |
15:31.03 | thiago_home | in system settings |
15:31.06 | thiago_home | but that doesn't apply to plasma |
15:31.19 | frojnd | plasma is apart from the system then |
15:31.20 | frojnd | hm |
15:31.38 | frojnd | how would I sync both themes then. Plasma and all the system theme |
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15:31.43 | thiago_home | you can't |
15:31.45 | frojnd | couse the plasma theme is pretty nice |
15:31.48 | frojnd | argh |
15:31.58 | thiago_home | you have to choose a theme for plasma and a theme for the rest |
15:32.04 | thiago_home | you can choose themes that look alike |
15:32.12 | frojnd | thiago_home: hum |
15:32.17 | thiago_home | I *think* the Aya theme for Plasma follows the system colours |
15:32.33 | frojnd | Only that I don't wanna have Aya :P |
15:32.35 | nille__ | Is there a way to start an app like vlc so it doesn't let kde lock the session? |
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15:32.58 | Half-Left | thiago_home: You're correct |
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15:36.36 | thiago_home | nille__: if you want to start vlc, start i t |
15:37.25 | phobos_anomaly | out of curiosity, should I be setting the prefix for kde4 to /usr? |
15:37.45 | thiago_home | phobos_anomaly: if you want to |
15:38.17 | phobos_anomaly | thiago_home: I take it that it doesn't matter? I've just been letting it install to whereever is default. |
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15:38.33 | thiago_home | phobos_anomaly: well, it matters if you have a reason for choosing /usr |
15:38.42 | thiago_home | like, for example, overwriting the system KDE 4 |
15:39.14 | phobos_anomaly | thiago_home: ah, ok. Thanks for answering my question. |
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15:40.18 | frojnd | Hum |
15:40.25 | frojnd | I can't find system settings -> apperance |
15:40.29 | frojnd | in kde 4.2.3 |
15:40.42 | CristianoFurtado | their kde 4.3 beta 1 Rox |
15:40.42 | frojnd | Can someone give me a tip where it's in kde 4 ? |
15:42.03 | CristianoFurtado | in Ekaaty Linux in july. |
15:42.11 | nille__ | thiago_home well the thing is that the old setting for "i'm alive" doesn't work so it locks the session after the time i set in the settings, that is fine but when i watch an movie i don't wan't kde to lock that session |
15:43.20 | thiago_home | nille__: ah, I see what you mean |
15:43.28 | thiago_home | sounds like a bug in the power management code in KDE |
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16:01.29 | Guest72967 | good day |
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16:10.27 | Half-Left | MakkaPakka: I'm looking into kscd, you've brought up a good point |
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16:22.04 | tas0s | Half-left,SSJ_GZ: Hi! |
16:22.09 | tas0s | last night I upgrade to kde-svn to see if it would change anything. |
16:22.14 | tas0s | and guess what :P |
16:22.25 | tas0s | now everything runs fine!:):) |
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16:22.41 | tas0s | no high xorg memory usage |
16:23.00 | tas0s | right now it is below 40MB! |
16:23.19 | tas0s | I can stick with kde again! :) |
16:23.26 | tas0s | Thank you very much again! |
16:23.51 | Half-Left | tas0s: Good, but unless the changelog says that bug has been fixed you may just be lucky :) |
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16:31.02 | opeth | hey ppl i m havin a problem , on my network i can only use internet of Dc++ at one time |
16:31.42 | opeth | so when i go online i cannot use Dc++ even after using "adsl-stop " and then starting it agian with "adsl-start" |
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16:32.38 | opeth | linuxdcpp |
16:32.47 | opeth | u want my ifconfig ? |
16:32.57 | nille__ | ohh then i'm clueless |
16:33.11 | opeth | k |
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17:21.29 | cheko | with 4.2.2 everything is fine, but with 4.3 beta the xserver dies directly, when i activate composite |
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17:30.21 | Jucato | alanhaggai: I think the closest is using kdialog --passivepopup |
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17:32.08 | alanhaggai | Jucato: Thank you. |
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17:33.27 | linuxnewbie | can someone help me with a problem I am having with rpm? |
17:34.00 | linuxnewbie | I am trying to install a package that is dependant on files in the /lib64 directory |
17:34.14 | Jucato | linuxnewbie: it would be best to ask in the channel of your distro |
17:34.16 | linuxnewbie | I don't know how to get rpm to use them |
17:34.30 | linuxnewbie | oh, ok tnx |
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17:39.54 | CJonius | Hello, I am using oS 11.1 kde 4.2.2. I have been locked by my own system in every few minutes (sometime 1 to 5). Is there any specific bug for that? on Configure settings, I've set no locking but no response. |
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17:41.35 | Georgerer | Hi there, will KDE 4.3 auto mount external drives and usb sti ks? |
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18:03.53 | hallowname | can someone here poke this page? http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian <- it needs libacl1-dev added to the list. kdelibs wants it. |
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18:10.05 | hallowname | or can i poke that page? |
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18:49.35 | ambro951 | Hi, I noticed the context menu suddenly stopped working in a Konsole window. Anyone else seen that? |
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18:51.31 | annma_ | reinstall konsole maybe |
18:52.40 | ambro951 | annma_: there's nothing wrong with the install; and it's rare, only happens after a windows has been open for hours; new windows aren't affected |
18:53.11 | annma_ | weird I have konsole for hours here |
18:53.20 | annma_ | and I never lost it |
18:53.25 | ambro951 | it happened before also |
18:53.31 | annma | before what? |
18:53.40 | ambro951 | a month ago |
18:53.48 | ambro951 | it affects all tabs in a window |
18:54.04 | ambro951 | everything but the context menu works |
18:55.08 | hallowname | ambro951: second that. on trunk of 3 days. |
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18:55.24 | ambro951 | hallowname: I'm using 4.2.3 |
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18:56.44 | hallowname | ambro951: odd. ahh, im on an ubuntu compiled trunk under debian. abi flippancy i guess. |
18:58.29 | ambro951 | I'm on Gentoo with Qt 4.4; it's a real bug, not an abi problem. |
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18:59.57 | hallowname | ambro951: nasty nasty... poke some bored developers ;) |
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19:12.41 | hoban | can someone tell me why there are two instances of "kio_imap4" running whenever kmail is up which account for (collectively) 100% cpu usage? |
19:12.45 | hoban | distro - archlinux, kde version - 4.2.2 |
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19:19.03 | ninix | hi, I think my "automount" device is disabled, how can I re-enable it |
19:19.18 | ninix | (like cdrom, usb-key) |
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19:26.36 | pillum | is hotplugging disabled? |
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19:26.40 | pillum | show me you xorg.conf |
19:26.41 | WMP | hi |
19:26.47 | pillum | hi, WMP ;) |
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19:27.13 | WMP | i have QT 4.5.0 and KDE 4.2.2 and i have this problem(screenshot) http://wstaw.org/p/8c2e/ |
19:27.26 | pillum | :( |
19:27.35 | pillum | I have this problem, too |
19:27.39 | WMP | this is kate, but i have this same problem on okular |
19:27.46 | WMP | pillum: :( |
19:27.48 | pillum | if you mark the text |
19:27.56 | WMP | pillum: you have kubuntu? |
19:27.57 | pillum | does this thing go away? |
19:28.00 | pillum | no |
19:28.02 | pillum | freebsd |
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19:28.20 | WMP | pillum: yes, whan i mark text this go away |
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19:28.31 | WMP | ooo, 4.2.3 is out ;) |
19:28.33 | pillum | same happens to me |
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19:28.38 | pillum | i have 4.2.3 |
19:28.45 | WMP | shit... |
19:29.12 | pillum | and 4.3.0 beta1 (should be 4.2.86) is already out |
19:29.36 | WMP | and, this bug in 4.3.0 is fix? |
19:29.41 | pillum | don't know |
19:29.48 | phobos | pillum: this is what my system shows KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) |
19:29.56 | ninix | <PROTECTED> |
19:30.30 | pillum | phobos: why do you write that? :D |
19:31.28 | pillum | ninix: I think there is not only one setting for it |
19:31.31 | phobos | Sadly, I didn't write it, it comes out of system info on konversation |
19:32.39 | pillum | ninix: What are your settings in the section "ServerFlags" in your xorg configuration file? |
19:33.03 | pillum | Is there an "AutoAddDevices" option? |
19:34.12 | pillum | phobos: You said you have 4.30. So, do you have the same problem like me and WMP ? |
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19:34.28 | WMP | pillum: I have 4.2.2 |
19:34.37 | phobos | Which problem are you talking about? |
19:34.51 | WMP | pillum: I thing - this bug is QT |
19:35.03 | pillum | I think that too |
19:35.19 | WMP | phobos: http://wstaw.org/p/8c2e/ |
19:35.21 | pillum | But maybe KDE 4.3 uses a newer version of QT4? |
19:35.52 | pillum | WMP: Which video card do you use? |
19:36.03 | WMP | pillum: intel |
19:36.07 | pillum | me too |
19:36.08 | WMP | i945 |
19:36.10 | phobos | pillum: which version of qt did you use? |
19:36.11 | pillum | me too |
19:36.18 | phobos | or did you use a distro package? |
19:36.26 | pillum | so it should be an intel driver problem |
19:36.35 | WMP | phobos: i use kde 4.2.2 from kubuntu 9.04 |
19:36.40 | pillum | WMP: which version do you use? (intel driver) |
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19:36.57 | WMP | pillum: how to check it? |
19:37.20 | pillum | look in you distros pkg management |
19:37.22 | phobos | WMP: that has to be a *buntu or intel issue. I'm on nvidia and debian without that kind of corruption. |
19:37.50 | pillum | phobos: I don't use ubuntu. |
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19:38.20 | phobos | pillum: it probably is an intel issue then. Which chip do you have? 910/915? 945? |
19:38.24 | pillum | 945 |
19:38.29 | phobos | hmm |
19:38.30 | pillum | like WMP |
19:38.34 | WMP | pillum: 2:2.7.0-1 |
19:38.52 | phobos | pillum: have you tried compiling the latest intel driver? |
19:38.58 | pillum | i have 2.7.1 |
19:39.08 | pillum | should be the latest driver |
19:39.17 | pillum | ninix: you're there? |
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19:40.49 | WMP | ok, I go to my source code, please write me when we think what is this |
19:40.59 | pillum | it is intel |
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19:41.19 | pillum | or Mesa |
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19:41.40 | pillum | It's the only similarity we have. |
19:47.25 | pillum | WMP: mesa version? |
19:47.35 | sheytan | Hi everyone. I already were on #kubuntu, but I like share my ideas. So here is another one: kubuntu's home page mockup: http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2009/05/strona-domowa-kubuntu-mockup.html Whad do ya say? |
19:48.36 | WMP | pillum: Wersja: 7.4-0ubuntu3.1 |
19:49.02 | pillum | I've just installed the newest version |
19:49.09 | WMP | yhy |
19:49.23 | pillum | what? |
19:49.45 | WMP | none |
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19:50.35 | pillum | as yet I didn't get this mess-up |
19:51.21 | WMP | my kubuntu have only security updates |
19:51.41 | pillum | WMP: 7.4.2 is an bugfix |
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19:51.56 | pillum | you don't get bugfixes? |
19:52.26 | WMP | pillum: I don't know |
19:52.50 | pillum | you did look if there is a newer version of mesa? |
19:53.07 | WMP | I havent new wersion |
19:53.11 | WMP | version* |
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19:55.51 | pillum | So, either you download the source and update it manually or you wait or maybe mesa 7.4.2 is not the solution |
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19:58.05 | doitux|mob | hi. is there any useable kde4-ftp-client available? |
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20:02.52 | pillum | still got the same error with mesa 7.4.2 :( |
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20:03.43 | Half-Left | doitux|mob: yer, Dolphin or Konqueror :p |
20:03.48 | pillum | doitux|mob: filezilla isn't a kde4 application, but it isn't bad |
20:05.30 | abadger1999 | Hi, I'm running kde-4.2.3 on Fedora and I've found that my kickoff menus aren't being updated automatically when I add/remove programs using my package manager. |
20:05.42 | pillum | then use kappfinder |
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20:06.06 | abadger1999 | I just switched from gnome to kde so there's likely something I don't have installed or configured right |
20:06.09 | pillum | or maybe kbuildsycoca4 |
20:06.31 | abadger1999 | pillum: <nod> I ran that manually and it updated the menus. |
20:07.08 | abadger1999 | pillum: But then I went looking for why it's not being done automatically... and it *is* being invoked automatically. |
20:07.24 | abadger1999 | Just kickoff doesn't see the changes unless I run it manually. |
20:08.02 | abadger1999 | Trying to figure out why that might be/if there's something I should do differently. |
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20:14.47 | Guest56756 | helllo |
20:14.54 | Guest56756 | is any one here |
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20:15.47 | Guest56756 | is this a chat |
20:15.50 | Guest56756 | ? |
20:15.54 | Guest56756 | hello |
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20:16.48 | abadger1999 | Guest56756: yes. If you have a question just ask |
20:17.00 | Guest56756 | okay |
20:17.06 | Guest56756 | lets see |
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20:17.19 | Guest56756 | i have installed window maker |
20:17.26 | Guest56756 | in fedora 9 |
20:17.31 | Guest56756 | however |
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20:17.44 | Guest56756 | i couldn't start it |
20:18.00 | Guest56756 | every time i want to |
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20:18.28 | Guest56756 | it doesn't appear in the menu |
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20:19.13 | Guest56756 | any know how to solve it |
20:19.17 | Guest56756 | ? |
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20:19.27 | pillum | solve what? |
20:19.52 | Guest56756 | adding window maker as one of my sessions |
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20:20.22 | Guest56756 | in fedora 9 |
20:20.39 | BullFrog | Hello, I'm looking for a KDE 4.x - based distro with decent package management. Might any of you have something to recommend? |
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20:21.01 | Guest56756 | fedora 10 |
20:21.12 | Half-Left | BullFrog: Fedora11 KDe version |
20:21.13 | Guest56756 | okay pillum |
20:21.23 | abadger1999 | Guest56756: Most window managers don't show up in the menus. |
20:21.39 | BullFrog | I don't recall Fedora having much in the way of decent package management. What's changed? |
20:22.03 | abadger1999 | BullFrog: I guess it depends on what you're looking for by "decent package management" ;-) |
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20:22.50 | BullFrog | Yeah, I ought to have been less vague. I was referring to something that'll easily sort out my dependencies for me. |
20:23.36 | abadger1999 | Like I want to install koffice-krita, please install that and all its dependencies? |
20:23.56 | abadger1999 | On Fedora that would be "yum install koffice-krita" |
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20:24.28 | gusfierro | i am back |
20:24.53 | BullFrog | Oh, it's got an apt-get equivalent? That should be easy enough to deal with (I haven't used Fedora for ages). Does it happen to have a decent front end for this YUM tool as well? |
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20:25.36 | gusfierro | so is there any way to add window maker in the session menu? |
20:25.42 | abadger1999 | BullFrog: Yeah. yum is the equivalent of apt-get. There's a couple GUI front-ends. |
20:25.53 | gusfierro | i am using fedora 9 |
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20:26.07 | gusfierro | and gnome as the default wm |
20:26.21 | abadger1999 | BullFrog: KPackageKit and the gnome version are the default GUI versions I think. |
20:26.52 | BullFrog | I see, thanks for the tip. |
20:28.06 | gusfierro | mmmm |
20:28.55 | gusfierro | hello every one |
20:29.38 | gusfierro | <PROTECTED> |
20:29.43 | abadger1999 | gusfierro: Are you running kde Fedora or gnome Fedora right now? |
20:30.01 | gusfierro | i am running gnome |
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20:30.23 | gusfierro | but i want to change it into gnu step window maker |
20:30.44 | gusfierro | nop |
20:30.52 | abadger1999 | gusfierro: Ah. So if you want to run that and just change the window manager to windowmaker, probably better to ask on #fedora. |
20:31.12 | gusfierro | thank you |
20:31.15 | abadger1999 | np |
20:31.33 | gusfierro | i have never used konversation before |
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20:33.18 | BullFrog | Has Konversation been ported to QT4, by the way? |
20:33.31 | pillum | is there a way to use xwinwrap with KDE4? |
20:33.39 | Half-Left | No because I'm using it now :p |
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20:33.56 | Sho_ | BullFrog: yup |
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20:34.11 | Half-Left | Sho_: What would you know? |
20:34.16 | Half-Left | runs off |
20:34.24 | Sho_ | :) |
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20:34.51 | abadger1999 | Looks like the kickoff thing isn't a race condition. |
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20:36.50 | abadger1999 | rpm -e gazpacho (note that kbuildsycoca --incremental runs via ps); (note that gazpacho is still present in the menu) ; rpm -e twitux (kbuildsyscoca invoked automatically here as well) |
20:37.04 | abadger1999 | ... and gazpacho is still in the menu. |
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20:44.55 | Knat | I'm using KDE 4.1, and xscreensaver, id like to set a flash video to be my screensaver, the tutorials ive found tell me to edit .xscreensaver, but this file doesnt exist, has anyone gotten this to work? |
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20:49.18 | insulina | hello , i am trying to compile kde-baseworkspace and i am getting this error http://www.nopaste.org/p/ahNFhNU4lb |
20:49.37 | insulina | does anyone knows why ? what should i do ? |
20:49.50 | gusfierro | does any one know were the window maker chanel is |
20:49.52 | gusfierro | ? |
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21:15.03 | pillum | insulina: /Files/Compile/Sources/kdebase-workspace-4.2.3/_build/kcontrol/access/../../../kcontrol/access/kaccess.h:15:30: error: Phonon/MediaObject: No such file or directory |
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21:15.21 | pillum | you have phonon installed? |
21:16.15 | pillum | Knat: read the man pages |
21:16.34 | insulina_ | yes , i have phonon installed |
21:16.46 | pillum | there should be ~/.xscreensaver |
21:18.27 | pillum | insulina: you're sure there is a Phonon/MediaObject in you include directory/path? |
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21:20.03 | insulina_ | pillum: how i make sure ? |
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21:21.00 | pillum | first look where Phonon/MediaObject is |
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21:21.43 | insulina_ | i have a mediaobject.h |
21:22.19 | pillum | in the directory Phono? |
21:22.21 | pillum | *n |
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21:24.11 | insulina_ | yes, in the include directory |
21:24.18 | fabrice_ | hi, could you please help me on kmail ? i have a lot of my mails classified under an 'unknown' status (day of the week) |
21:24.31 | insulina_ | what is that object , is a .so a lib ? |
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21:24.59 | pillum | .so is a lib (shared object) |
21:25.27 | pillum | insulina: is there a libkde4 or libkde4-devel package you didn't installed? |
21:25.29 | insulina_ | i have libphonon installed and header files too |
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21:25.59 | pillum | you said you have mediaobject.h |
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21:26.10 | pillum | but it wants MediaObject |
21:26.17 | insulina_ | yes , i dont have installed kde-libs and kde-devel ... |
21:26.25 | insulina_ | must installe it first rigth ? |
21:26.31 | pillum | seems so |
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21:26.47 | pillum | or maybe libphonon-dev |
21:26.53 | pillum | something like that |
21:27.09 | phobos | insulina_: what distro are you on? |
21:27.14 | pillum | however google says any packages are missing |
21:27.26 | insulina_ | gobolinux |
21:27.37 | phobos | Never heard of that one. Is it debian based? |
21:28.07 | insulina_ | no is from lfs , linux from scratch is a source based distro now , because it start as binary distro |
21:28.32 | phobos | ah |
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21:29.18 | pillum | uses a filesystem hierarchy similiar to windows |
21:31.18 | insulina_ | humm, yes if you are talking about programs going to only one folder ... |
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21:33.10 | insulina_ | it is cool distro , i am just avarage joe and i was able to start compiling the lates kde :D |
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21:37.15 | pillum | KDE 4.3.0 beta1 is the latest kde :) |
21:37.55 | insulina_ | 4.3.2 ? isnt ? |
21:38.29 | insulina_ | got to go, tx for the help |
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21:40.24 | caotic | how can i restar audio devices in 4.2 |
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21:42.14 | MichelFX2 | Hello, somebofy can help me to install this theme? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kara++(Bespin)?content=102715 Please |
21:42.22 | MichelFX2 | somebody* |
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21:43.09 | hyper_ch | how can I prevent the screensaver to kick in when watching a video? |
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21:45.34 | pillum | hyper_ch: you use vlc? |
21:45.45 | pillum | MichelFX2: what's the problem? |
21:46.09 | dvl | Under KDE 3, can I disable the anyone know how to disable the tap feature on the eeepc 1000he? My mother keep selecting/double clicking stuff by accident. Best to disable it I think. |
21:46.13 | hyper_ch | pillum: kaffeine, vlc, smplayer |
21:46.14 | dvl | oops. |
21:46.25 | dvl | Under KDE 3, anyone know how to disable the tap feature on the eeepc 1000he? My mother keep selecting/double clicking stuff by accident. Best to disable it I think. |
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21:46.59 | MichelFX2 | I got this error : Could NOT find QtCore header |
21:49.52 | MichelFX2 | What ditros have KDe 4.2 default? |
21:50.23 | pillum | hyper_ch: there is an "Inhibit the power management daemon during playback" in vlc |
21:51.32 | hyper_ch | pillum: where would that be? |
21:52.35 | pillum | hyper_ch: set show settings to All - > then in advanced |
21:52.39 | pillum | perfomance options |
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21:53.08 | hyper_ch | pillum: in vlc? |
21:53.18 | hyper_ch | ah, ok |
21:53.40 | pillum | found? |
21:53.49 | hyper_ch | yeah |
21:54.14 | pillum | gut |
21:55.11 | hyper_ch | how to attach the toolbar again to the video window? |
21:56.00 | pillum | which toolbar? |
21:56.14 | hyper_ch | that new interface control is seperated fromt he video |
21:57.24 | pillum | go in preferences |
21:57.31 | pillum | -> video->general video settings |
21:57.40 | pillum | check embedded video |
21:58.37 | hyper_ch | it is checked |
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22:03.05 | pillum | hyper_ch: which distro? |
22:03.18 | hyper_ch | pillum: kubuntu jaunty 64bit |
22:03.19 | pillum | hyper_ch: and which vlc version? |
22:03.43 | hyper_ch | 0.9.9a |
22:03.57 | pillum | This is a known bug. It is told that this bug does not exist version 1.0.0, but it is still a beta. |
22:04.07 | hyper_ch | ok |
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22:04.51 | pillum | hyper_ch: here is a guide to install vlc 1.0.0 on ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7138708&postcount=6 |
22:06.11 | hyper_ch | what a complicated guide |
22:06.20 | hyper_ch | I guess I'll add that ppa to my sources.list generator |
22:06.57 | hyper_ch | thx for the link |
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22:11.41 | hyper_ch | pillum: you're also on *buntu? |
22:11.44 | pillum | no |
22:11.49 | pillum | why? |
22:11.58 | pillum | need help or what? |
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22:12.48 | hyper_ch | pillum: just curious because you knew of that ppa |
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22:17.20 | pillum | hyper_ch: that's not my guide :) |
22:17.32 | hyper_ch | :) |
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22:20.54 | hyper_ch | pillum: now it works again :) |
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22:21.28 | pillum | installed vlc 1.0.0? |
22:21.45 | hyper_ch | yeah, and added the repo to my generator tool :) |
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22:27.22 | hyper_ch | pillum: screensaver still kicks in |
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22:38.27 | pillum | hm |
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22:39.47 | pillum | hyper_ch: Preferences > Video, the option "Disable screensaver" |
22:40.16 | hyper_ch | pillum: also checked |
22:40.47 | cjae | hello, I have kde 4.2.3 installed, I was stupid and forgot to turn on lock widgets, how many I get my panel back to original? I would like to not have to use rm -rf ~/.kde |
22:40.58 | hyper_ch | pillum: so, I'm off to bed |
22:41.23 | pillum | gn8 |
22:41.28 | hyper_ch | cjae: why back to original? |
22:43.39 | cjae | hyper_ch, I have different themes and such installed, but the layout is almost identical to original it seems that everything is just to far left |
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22:44.10 | cjae | hyper_ch, like I do not have any place to put my open windows |
22:44.36 | hyper_ch | cjae: not sure what you mean but good luck.. I'm off to bed |
22:44.53 | cjae | it goes K then /home folder icon then the workspaces |
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22:45.21 | dowdle_acer | Quick question.... in KDE 4.2.x how do I get a titlebar back on a window if I turned it off? I don't have a titlebar to access the titlebar menu. |
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22:45.47 | cjae | plasma dashboard then startup icons get 1/3 of panel and time gets rest |
22:45.53 | pillum | which window? |
22:45.55 | pillum | dolphin? |
22:45.58 | Half-Left | dowdle_acer: |
22:46.05 | Half-Left | dowdle_acer: Task Manager? |
22:46.07 | pillum | CTRL+M |
22:46.22 | dowdle_acer | Half-Left: Thanks! |
22:46.35 | hyper_ch | cjae: add the task manager widget |
22:46.43 | pillum | ?? |
22:46.45 | dowdle_acer | pillum: Control M is for the menubar. |
22:47.24 | pillum | and how did you disable the title bar? |
22:48.12 | dowdle_acer | Hmmm, the titlebar on/off isn't listed in the taskbar entry menu. :( |
22:48.52 | dowdle_acer | pillum: Right click on titlebar, Advanced, No border |
22:48.53 | pillum | is there no window decoration? |
22:49.12 | cjae | hyper_ch, how would that work? I just need something to reset panel back to proper layout as it is with the oxygen theme |
22:49.15 | pillum | alt+f3 |
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22:49.33 | dowdle_acer | pillum: Thank you, alt-f3 worked. |
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22:54.29 | cjae | ok heres what I mean it is the desktop on the left http://www.picturepush.com/host.php?image=1729605 |
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22:55.12 | cjae | I need to make everything push back to the left on my panel |
22:56.31 | pillum | I don't unterstand what you mean :( |
22:56.46 | pillum | you want what? |
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22:58.46 | Half-Left | 4.3 has dynamic spacers, so you can put stuff in the panel where you want |
22:59.49 | Half-Left | Or should I say flexible ones |
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23:21.38 | mitch00 | is there a place in systemsettings that effects autorun when waking up from a suspend to ram? |
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23:26.28 | cjae | I owe hyper_ch an apology, he had the right plasmoid widget in mind, so if someone could pass that along. |
23:26.33 | marko_d | mitch00: that is not autorun |
23:27.03 | marko_d | it is the apps that you have used before clicking the suspend button |
23:27.05 | cjae | Wow, is there a lot of weird names for these widgets |
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23:43.58 | k_wolf | hi guys. Is there a way to reset the plama panel? (that wich KDE logo where we launch apps) |
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