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| 00:13.24 | pthomas_ | what happened to kpdf? |
| 00:13.49 | pinotree | in kde4? there's okular |
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| 00:14.44 | pthomas_ | yes kde4, okular is ok, but you can't edit the pdf files |
| 00:15.09 | pinotree | okular won't be an editor |
| 00:15.40 | pthomas_ | I know, I just want to enter text on top of the pdf, any ideas? |
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| 00:21.08 | k1lumin4t1 | is there any other protocol that is not fish that I could use to manipulate a ssh network folder ? |
| 00:21.23 | k1lumin4t1 | fish is crashing consistently on KDE 4.1 |
| 00:21.36 | pinotree | sftp? |
| 00:21.55 | pthomas_ | ssh network folder? |
| 00:22.06 | pthomas_ | you can use scp to copy files over ssh |
| 00:24.06 | k1lumin4t1 | not just to copy |
| 00:24.20 | k1lumin4t1 | but to manipulate it from within regular kde file browsers |
| 00:24.24 | pinotree | sftp? |
| 00:24.30 | k1lumin4t1 | e.g: dolphin, konqueror |
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| 00:32.59 | k1lumin4t1 | fish is crashing soo much |
| 00:33.00 | k1lumin4t1 | :S |
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| 00:33.30 | k1lumin4t1 | is ftp faster than ssh? |
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| 00:35.31 | pinotree | sftp is not ftp |
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| 00:39.22 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, ok, is sftp faster than ssh? |
| 00:39.31 | pinotree | sftp is ssh |
| 00:39.40 | pinotree | why don't you try it? |
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| 00:41.51 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, does it need to be a service running on server side also? |
| 00:42.02 | pinotree | yes, a ssh daemon |
| 00:42.05 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, or is it just a wrapper of ssh for ftp? |
| 00:42.07 | k1lumin4t1 | ok |
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| 00:42.38 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, I'm doing this from KDE's Network Folder GUI config |
| 00:42.48 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, and it has only ssh and ftp avilable |
| 00:42.59 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, how could I make it use sftp instead? |
| 00:43.42 | pinotree | ah, the network folder wizard, long time since i used it last |
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| 00:45.48 | pinotree | try to create it as either ssh or ftp, then see whether you can edit it later |
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| 00:47.04 | k1lumin4t1 | pinotree, which port does sftp use? 22 also? |
| 00:47.22 | pinotree | iirc yes |
| 00:47.57 | madraykin | I'm having a problem viewing a file that apparently has "symbols" in it. I can't play, move, or delete it because it says it doesnt exist, but it clearly does. I think I need to change konquerors encoding to iso88759-1 to view it. Can anyone tell me if its possible to do this and how? |
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| 00:48.48 | call_me_Away | give me the error message about symbols |
| 00:50.03 | madraykin | Well, it just says the file doesn't exist. I can't do anything with it, yet it's there. the filename is 04 S�l Ek S�.mp3according to dolphin |
| 00:50.17 | madraykin | though im assuming it has some fancy accents or something. lol. |
| 00:50.27 | call_me_Away | oh ok |
| 00:50.40 | call_me_Away | I thought maybe you got an error message about "symbols" |
| 00:50.45 | madraykin | Oh no |
| 00:50.47 | madraykin | lol |
| 00:50.49 | madraykin | :) |
| 00:51.08 | call_me_Away | that would be a issue with akernel module for video decompression if that were the case |
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| 00:52.20 | call_me_Away | looks like you have a file that's encoded with a non-latin font, i.e. mandarin or japaneese |
| 00:52.32 | call_me_Away | that or it's badly corrupted :( |
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| 00:53.47 | madraykin | yeah..I think it's encoded in a different font or something ;[ |
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| 01:09.15 | FFForever | can i make folders folders yet or are they still widgets? |
| 01:12.38 | call_me_Away | widgets |
| 01:12.54 | call_me_Away | the desktop isn't something physical like it used to be |
| 01:13.08 | call_me_Away | "it's only a paper moon" |
| 01:13.16 | call_me_Away | that's why they call it plasma |
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| 01:13.32 | FFForever | call_me_Away, =(, sadly u guys killed the 3x branch else i would still use it... |
| 01:13.47 | call_me_Away | dun look at me I don't develop it :( |
| 01:13.56 | FFForever | =) |
| 01:14.03 | call_me_Away | and 3.5 is still perfectly useable, just won't be updated |
| 01:14.47 | pinotree | FFForever: you can place a folderview widget as desktop |
| 01:15.11 | call_me_Away | that doesn't make it any less capable, it is and has been very stable, and there isn't any new technology I'm aware of that is incompatible with 3.5 |
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| 01:16.27 | FFForever | pinotree, thats bad i tried it didn't like it kinda left kde 4 gnome =( |
| 01:16.42 | FFForever | pinotree, i will go back to kde as soon as i can have a real desktop |
| 01:17.13 | pinotree | which kde version did you try? |
| 01:17.48 | call_me_Away | the ability to create folders that have a virtual presence on the plasma dashboard is young yet, in time it will be perfected :) |
| 01:18.37 | call_me_Away | in the mean time, kde 3.5 is no where near out of date. just becuase development ended officially will not stop many idependents from continuing to support it, also |
| 01:19.00 | FFForever | 4.1 i think it was |
| 01:19.08 | call_me_Away | ouch |
| 01:19.09 | pinotree | then give kde 4.2 a try |
| 01:19.20 | FFForever | any jaunty repo's for 4.2? |
| 01:19.30 | pinotree | #kubuntu for this |
| 01:19.45 | call_me_Away | oh, ubuntu |
| 01:19.59 | call_me_Away | never usderstood the naming convention |
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| 01:20.19 | call_me_Away | sounds like it's themed off of "Bambi's homsexual forest friends" |
| 01:20.24 | FFForever | call_me_Away, same here.... |
| 01:20.45 | FFForever | mark must spend all day trying to come up with the new names... |
| 01:20.56 | call_me_Away | I got a few |
| 01:21.27 | call_me_Away | Slutty Skunk, Trampy Tiger and my fav: Bitchy Beaver |
| 01:21.35 | pinotree | *cough* |
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| 01:21.59 | FFForever | ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome names u should email them 2 mark |
| 01:21.59 | call_me_Away | cleans his keyboard |
| 01:22.18 | call_me_Away | it was getting a bit dirty |
| 01:22.37 | call_me_Away | suse peoples don't talk to ubuntu peoples |
| 01:22.54 | call_me_Away | the ubuntu people pull shotguns on us |
| 01:23.09 | FFForever | i hate suse i find it unorganized and weird + way 2 much modding of the default kde/gnome |
| 01:23.39 | FFForever | i am a gentoo fan though =D |
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| 01:24.05 | call_me_Away | in #suse when people get frustrated they taunt us with the threat of switching to ubuntu |
| 01:24.12 | call_me_Away | they get the opposite in #ubuntu |
| 01:24.16 | xiando | http://anonymous.livelyblog.com/2009/02/18/vidalia-can-now-show-tor-servers-and-circuts-on-a-spinning-3d-globe-using-the-marble-widget/ |
| 01:24.19 | xiando | thanks kde |
| 01:24.31 | FFForever | call_me_Away, that is the only way 2 keep u away the fake dog barking sound clips didn't work, also the beware of owner with guns didn't scare u guys off =( |
| 01:25.05 | mcrandello | is there a way to get rid of the forward/back, url and bookmark controls from the web browser widget? |
| 01:25.07 | call_me_Away | and yes, suse's hard core on branding |
| 01:25.16 | call_me_Away | that's novel's nasty habbit |
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| 01:25.59 | mcrandello | I've got a webpage and associated swf file I'd like to have sitting on the desktop basically |
| 01:26.11 | DeeebianOS | xiando: COOL |
| 01:26.22 | mcrandello | is there any other way to get that to happen besides the web browser widget? |
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| 01:27.08 | call_me_Away | it's a trade off, they may brand everything to death but Novel's got some brilliant software engineers, so we tolerate the giany gecko billboards |
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| 01:27.27 | pinotree | wonders what suse has to do here |
| 01:27.28 | call_me_Away | s/giany/giant |
| 01:27.39 | DeeebianOS | Debian>Suse |
| 01:28.07 | FFForever | u guys got it all wrong, Gentoo>*distro |
| 01:28.10 | call_me_Away | pinotree: forgivbe me, I have ADD and get off topic easy |
| 01:28.10 | DeeebianOS | I do like Suse though. I used it for a long time and I'm still quite fond of it. |
| 01:28.26 | DeeebianOS | FFForever: Gentoo users are stupid. |
| 01:28.32 | FFForever | why is that? |
| 01:28.35 | call_me_Away | everyone shhhhh before a distro war starts |
| 01:28.35 | FFForever | gentoo is awesome |
| 01:28.40 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: What is ADD? |
| 01:28.42 | mcrandello | I did try a google search but it didn't really give any useful info |
| 01:28.47 | FFForever | call_me_Away, 2 late.... |
| 01:29.02 | call_me_Away | attention deficit disorder |
| 01:29.07 | DeeebianOS | Distro wars are always pointless and never achieve anything. |
| 01:29.15 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: Describe it. |
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| 01:29.26 | pinotree | DeeebianOS: right, so no need to insult other users either |
| 01:29.45 | call_me_Away | it's a mental disorder that makes your focus shift very easily |
| 01:29.54 | call_me_Away | too easily |
| 01:29.54 | FFForever | DeeebianOS, but they show where your true fanship lies =) |
| 01:30.01 | DeeebianOS | pinotree: "Aspergers troll lacks common social nuances/abilities and is thus unable to detect irony, sarcasm from others, and is also unable to help from being rude, insensitive, or just generally harsh in their writings." |
| 01:30.09 | DeeebianOS | FFForever: I guess so. |
| 01:30.30 | pinotree | DeeebianOS, FFForever: there's no need to any "my distro is better, your suck" talk here; if you really want this, go to a private channel, and be fun |
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| 01:31.09 | call_me_Away | mcrandello: forgive our distro war in progress, but the answer is the web widget is currently the only "active desktop" method |
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| 01:32.01 | call_me_Away | your suggestions to improve it are quite welcome, since it is in dire need of improvments, like most of KDE 4 it's very new |
| 01:32.08 | FFForever | is there a google apps widget for quick mail access? |
| 01:32.34 | pinotree | kcheckgmail? (kde3) |
| 01:32.40 | FFForever | kde4? |
| 01:32.47 | pinotree | no idea |
| 01:32.50 | call_me_Away | the most desparetly needed widget right now is a widget that clones widget developers |
| 01:32.59 | call_me_Away | they're very short |
| 01:33.28 | FFForever | call_me_Away, but thats illegal in the us =( |
| 01:33.42 | FFForever | well on humans at least.... |
| 01:34.04 | call_me_Away | so is file sharing of copyrighted material, but millions do It:) |
| 01:34.34 | FFForever | I am all legal though =) |
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| 01:34.52 | FFForever | if everything works out i will be in law school in a year and a half =) |
| 01:34.58 | DeeebianOS | I Bittorrent. |
| 01:35.18 | call_me_Away | I'm a writer by trade, I can do some coding but I'm not even close to a production skill level |
| 01:35.41 | FFForever | i just program for fun but nothing 2 good... i suck @ it though |
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| 01:35.57 | call_me_Away | will probably get involved in writing a KDE4 Plasma developer's manual |
| 01:36.20 | call_me_Away | any real KDE fan can get into QT easily |
| 01:37.07 | call_me_Away | working with QT is easier than falling out of bed |
| 01:38.10 | call_me_Away | time and manpower are the top 2 factors that are holding back advancements in KDE4 |
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| 01:39.54 | call_me_Away | most of development is invovled deeply in getting the stubborn bugs out of kwin and plasma, cleaning up code, reducing memory overhead and decreasing ram fragmentation, etc that slow performance, and getting a good solid I/O system to interact efficiently with the graphics CPU |
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| 01:40.57 | call_me_Away | sadly, that means the side tasks of developing widgets, effects and features are severly undermanned |
| 01:41.16 | DeeebianOS | I like the new ksysguard. |
| 01:41.29 | DeeebianOS | It's as good as the Gnome equivilant now. |
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| 01:42.45 | call_me_Away | that's a great example of howw much potential kde4 has |
| 01:42.59 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: Why? |
| 01:43.24 | call_me_Away | good apps like that |
| 01:43.47 | call_me_Away | that level of quality is possible desktop wide |
| 01:44.07 | DeeebianOS | That would be nice. |
| 01:44.12 | call_me_Away | the technology of compositing is new, but it's good... |
| 01:44.22 | DeeebianOS | Then KDE4 would be high quality like Gnome. :) |
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| 01:44.57 | mcrandello | call_me_Away: as for suggestions- really the only thing the web browser widget would need is an option to hide all controls, and maybe an option to hide scroll bars |
| 01:45.25 | DeeebianOS | mcrandello: Especially for us users with 1024X600 screens. |
| 01:45.47 | call_me_Away | hit up the forums on the dot and post that! |
| 01:46.04 | mcrandello | then one could throw things like this in there: http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/utilities/tuner/ |
| 01:46.19 | mcrandello | I'll see if I have an account there |
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| 01:46.24 | call_me_Away | making it public and gathering support is what makes it happen |
| 01:46.33 | call_me_Away | assuming you can do it yourself |
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| 01:47.18 | lgrinberg | My Keyboard Repeat option seems to be getting unset. I enable keyboard repeat, and then, a few days later, it gets magically unset again. |
| 01:47.33 | call_me_Away | which makes a good point, plasma is a new, poorly understood technology that will need a strong base of educational docs to build a community of developers |
| 01:48.11 | DeeebianOS | I will consider using KDE4 once the old kcontrol is back. |
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| 01:48.49 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: I never understood what Plasma is, what is it? |
| 01:49.20 | call_me_Away | I'm a bit dissapointed in the control panels for kde4 |
| 01:49.30 | call_me_Away | they're split up and tossed around everywhere |
| 01:49.55 | lgrinberg | DeeebianOS : it's the desktop system/environment thingy for KDE4. It's what allows panels, desktop applets, etc. |
| 01:50.08 | call_me_Away | I miss being able to change graphics settings from a right click on the desktop |
| 01:50.42 | lgrinberg | does anyone know why the keyboard repeat setting would change suddenly? |
| 01:50.54 | call_me_Away | plasma is a virtual desktop - like real plasma, it's not fully solid nor fluid, but a mix |
| 01:51.10 | DeeebianOS | lgrinberg: And it's more efficient than the KDE3 methos? |
| 01:51.38 | lgrinberg | DeeebianOS : I don't know about efficiency (and have only used KDE 3 a little). It is, however, a lot shinier |
| 01:51.44 | call_me_Away | it's a method of drawing the desktop that relies heavily on the graphics CPU, thus reducing the load on the rest of the system |
| 01:51.54 | DeeebianOS | lgrinberg: Lol "shiner"? |
| 01:52.09 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: So it's less power efficient? |
| 01:52.24 | call_me_Away | most of us can admit we have 256, 512, or more mb of graphics power we rarly use |
| 01:52.24 | lgrinberg | DeebianOS : I mean, like, it has nice widgets and stuff. It has an SVG analog clock! SHINY! |
| 01:53.08 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: I have an Intel GMA950 IGP |
| 01:53.27 | call_me_Away | plasma puts that to use and saves cpu cycles, ram space, etc for real work |
| 01:53.40 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: Since when is graphics power measured in MB? |
| 01:53.45 | DeeebianOS | You mean GPU power. |
| 01:53.46 | call_me_Away | well, it's better then a Chrome :) |
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| 01:54.39 | call_me_Away | it uses GPU power that normnally sits around doing nothing |
| 01:55.16 | call_me_Away | and as a side effect, gives you pretty 3d effects :) |
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| 01:57.02 | DeeebianOS | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/KDE_4.2_(RC).png WOAH SHINY SHINY! |
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| 01:58.15 | call_me_Away | well, now you got me started |
| 01:58.34 | call_me_Away | is going to end up publishing on slashdot now |
| 01:58.38 | DeeebianOS | I like KDE4 but it's still missing very important things. I will give KDE4.3 a try in a few months and may switch to using it. |
| 01:58.43 | DeeebianOS | call_me_Away: Why? |
| 01:58.59 | DeeebianOS | It reminds me of Vista a bit. |
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| 01:59.10 | DeeebianOS | But hopefully doesn't require 4GB of RAM. |
| 01:59.32 | call_me_Away | some publicity is badly needed to jumpstart plasma development |
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| 01:59.47 | call_me_Away | I'm running 4.2 on 512mb :) |
| 02:00.00 | zulu9 | DeeebianOS: I run kde 4.2 on my 512mb laptop with crappy sis gfx that can't do any 3d and takes another 64mb of the ram |
| 02:00.13 | zulu9 | and I can even get some effects working through xrender |
| 02:00.16 | call_me_Away | I blew a stick a while back and haven't replaced it yet |
| 02:00.20 | zulu9 | and it runs pretty well |
| 02:00.35 | zulu9 | esp. if try to stick to native kde4 or qt apps |
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| 02:00.53 | call_me_Away | stupid athelon, stupid ami bios, stupid jerry seinfeld |
| 02:00.55 | zulu9 | most buggy and ressource hugs seem to be the gtk-wrapper etc |
| 02:01.40 | DeeebianOS | I try to use mainly KDE3 and QT apps but some really suck for my uses. For example, Firefox is so much more usable as a web browser than Konqueror. |
| 02:01.53 | DeeebianOS | And OpenOffice is so much better than KOffice. |
| 02:01.59 | DeeebianOS | For my uses at least. |
| 02:02.19 | call_me_Away | too true :) |
| 02:02.49 | call_me_Away | mozilla's got it's secrets tht make firefox better then other mozzilla based browsers |
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| 02:03.23 | mcrandello | is there a specific feature request forum? |
| 02:03.34 | call_me_Away | and ooo has the advantage of being around soly for office applications |
| 02:03.45 | call_me_Away | there ought to be if there isn't |
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| 02:05.15 | DeeebianOS | Firefox is so ergonomic. |
| 02:05.17 | DeeebianOS | It's amazing. |
| 02:05.28 | DeeebianOS | It just doesn't work so well with history enabled on my Eee. |
| 02:05.38 | DeeebianOS | That's FF3 only. |
| 02:08.06 | call_me_Away | kde is a big project, and it's really understaffed |
| 02:08.35 | lgrinberg | Does anyone have any idea as to why keyboard repeat might suddenly and chronically disable itself? |
| 02:08.42 | call_me_Away | with KDE4 what was sufficient at one time is no longer good enough |
| 02:08.42 | DeeebianOS | What is Phonon and Solid? |
| 02:08.52 | mcrandello | Phonon is the sound server |
| 02:09.15 | call_me_Away | lgrinberg: sounds like a dead obvious bug |
| 02:09.30 | call_me_Away | as to where the bug is, dunno |
| 02:09.56 | lgrinberg | call_me_Away : but presumably it would be noticed by now... I mean, like, it happens rather randomly and is incredibly noticeable |
| 02:10.18 | call_me_Away | could be kernel module, kde, maybe even a fluke in the usb controllers |
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| 02:10.46 | DeeebianOS | Is Phonon better than Pulseaudio? |
| 02:10.53 | call_me_Away | you never know, it could be a specific hardware combination that sets it off |
| 02:11.15 | mcrandello | ah web browser needs swf support also T_T |
| 02:11.25 | lgrinberg | call_me_Away : hmm, I guess... |
| 02:11.43 | call_me_Away | midi via a piezo buzzer is better then pulseaudio |
| 02:12.50 | call_me_Away | my suggestion is to put in a bug report on the KDE bugzilla and give as much detail as you can |
| 02:13.13 | call_me_Away | do search first, in case it's been reported already, and add to it with your details |
| 02:13.53 | lgrinberg | call_me_Away : yeah, will do |
| 02:14.23 | call_me_Away | be very detailed about hardware and software, pay close attention to whether there's related instances, like it only happens when application x is running, etc |
| 02:15.05 | lgrinberg | call_me_Away : of course |
| 02:15.20 | lgrinberg | call_me_Away : ooh https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67295 |
| 02:16.49 | call_me_Away | look like your problem |
| 02:17.04 | mcrandello | heh http://desktop.google.com/plugins/i/guitartuner_bijoy.html?hl=en |
| 02:17.10 | mcrandello | I suppose that would work just as well |
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| 02:17.34 | call_me_Away | do the applications noted mean anything to you? |
| 02:18.35 | lgrinberg | call_me_Away : I mean, I run them |
| 02:18.43 | lgrinberg | but I can't think of any reason they'd affect it |
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| 02:18.57 | call_me_Away | you'd be surpirsed |
| 02:18.59 | Zombie | I have some problematic behavior with KDE and Adobe Acrobat. |
| 02:19.14 | call_me_Away | everyone has odd behavior with acrobat! |
| 02:19.21 | Zombie | I've had to install the real Adobe Acrobat on a node, and for some reason. |
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| 02:29.42 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 02:30.30 | call_me_Away | intel makes cpus, via makes chipsets and nvidia is a graphics company there are no real PC audio experts left |
| 02:31.02 | call_me_Away | Turtle Beach is dead, Adlib is dead, all of them are dead |
| 02:32.29 | call_me_Away | there's nobody left that does "real" audio hardware research |
| 02:32.51 | DeeebianOS | Realtek? |
| 02:33.42 | call_me_Away | RealTek isn't much |
| 02:34.31 | call_me_Away | they're a chip company |
| 02:34.39 | g2g591 | RealTek uses that generic hda_intel driver, so i don't think they do much innovation |
| 02:34.52 | g2g591 | (at least my realtek sound chip does at anyrate) |
| 02:35.04 | call_me_Away | they are involved in wifi chips too |
| 02:36.21 | call_me_Away | a realtek audio setup is little more then a warmed over sound blaster awe32 clone with a few random differences engineered in to avoid patent suits |
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| 02:36.55 | call_me_Away | which is pretty much what intel does for it's audio chips, explaining why the driver works so well :) |
| 02:38.00 | g2g591 | call_me_Away: actualy theres a specific option under hda_intel just for RealTek support (in the kernel alsa config) |
| 02:38.35 | call_me_Away | adlib owned the market at one timeand everbody imitated them |
| 02:39.04 | call_me_Away | then soundblaster 16 rocked the PC world and creative's pwn'd everybody since |
| 02:39.55 | call_me_Away | g2g591: still, there's enough similarity to fit support for both chipsets into one module :) |
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| 02:40.50 | call_me_Away | there isn't a whole lot of innovation in audio hardware, there's some, but not alot |
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| 02:43.08 | call_me_Away | just like all current Chevrolet and a Ford cars have 4 wheels, use friction brakes and a gasoline or diesel engine, come with a radio, use lead acid batteries for power and a alternating current generator with a 3 diode rectifier to recharge them |
| 02:44.27 | call_me_Away | every sound chip uses the same basic foundation, differences come in features, control, reliability etc. |
| 02:45.57 | call_me_Away | stuff that relies more on a company's mission statment then it does "top secret research" |
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| 02:47.32 | call_me_Away | anyway I'm off topic babbling again |
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| 03:54.10 | downhill_ | is this channel logged, too? |
| 03:54.45 | call_me_K | I hope not, I've confessed to at least 18 felonies today |
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| 03:58.14 | call_me_K | according to his holy googleness, no, this one doesn't get logged |
| 03:59.07 | call_me_K | that doesn't mean some public visitor won't start posting public logs at random, though |
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| 04:06.17 | AliTarihi | My layout switcher is broken :s I change the layout using shortcut but the indicator does not change! |
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| 04:07.15 | call_me_K | that just sounded like a model railroad issue |
| 04:08.23 | call_me_K | maybe because I know model railroading |
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| 04:09.26 | DeeebianOS | (01:33:49) call_me_Away: the most desparetly needed widget right now is a widget that clones widget developers |
| 04:09.34 | DeeebianOS | (01:35:03) call_me_Away: so is file sharing of copyrighted material, but millions do It:) |
| 04:09.37 | Simon_ | kopete has a bug. when i chatted with my friend, a notifacation didn't disappear |
| 04:10.42 | call_me_K | stabs.... his stake and eyes DeeebianOS in an evil way just off-camera |
| 04:10.56 | call_me_K | s/stake/steak |
| 04:10.58 | DeeebianOS | call_me_K: You tempted me. |
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| 04:12.05 | call_me_K | Simon_: use the bugzilla on kde.org, search to see if it's reported yet first, if so then add to the existing report |
| 04:12.10 | DeeebianOS | (01:23:53) call_me_Away: the ubuntu people pull shotguns on us |
| 04:12.23 | call_me_K | they do |
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| 04:13.40 | call_me_K | they think the N in Novel stands for "Need to shoot them" |
| 04:14.24 | DeeebianOS | bye |
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| 04:15.29 | cwiedel_ | anyone here good with gentoo? I want to upgrade 4. 1 to 4.1 |
| 04:15.38 | cwiedel_ | i mean 4.2 :-) oops! |
| 04:15.48 | junkDawgie | looks carefully at that space |
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| 04:17.41 | cwiedel_ | ? |
| 04:17.56 | call_me_K | I would try #gentoo myself |
| 04:22.25 | cwiedel_ | call_me_K: I tried there, :-( no answer :-( |
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| 04:25.13 | call_me_K | they're probably all updating packages lol |
| 04:25.32 | cwiedel_ | :-) |
| 04:26.29 | call_me_K | gentoo's super labor intensive |
| 04:26.40 | call_me_K | used to run it, that was 5 years ago though |
| 04:27.08 | Simon_ | call_me_K: now? |
| 04:27.11 | cwiedel_ | I like it cause it does what i tell it to |
| 04:27.33 | Simon_ | cwiedel_: you can like lfs more |
| 04:28.04 | cwiedel_ | lfs? |
| 04:28.04 | Simon_ | cwiedel_: www.linuxfromscrath.org |
| 04:28.09 | cwiedel_ | the bumer though is it takes like a week to have a working desktop |
| 04:28.23 | cwiedel_ | cool |
| 04:28.28 | cwiedel_ | bummer about gentoo i ment |
| 04:28.37 | Simon_ | cwiedel_: all need create yourself |
| 04:30.05 | cwiedel_ | cool! |
| 04:31.06 | AliTarihi | my kxxb does not work. It does not show the layout switch Any idea . |
| 04:31.47 | downhill_ | gremlins |
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| 04:36.28 | call_me_K | faries |
| 04:36.43 | call_me_K | gremlins usually create segfaults |
| 04:36.52 | call_me_K | faries are more subtle |
| 04:40.03 | downhill_ | thanks for the correction, K. |
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| 04:43.30 | call_me_K | np |
| 04:43.57 | call_me_K | magical creatures that habitually attack open source systems are a difficult subject |
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| 05:02.28 | Bsims | I can't get kde 4.2 to use system bell as a notification and a desktop view to /media/disk-1 doesn't work on boot and in fact crashes plasma any ideas |
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| 05:06.34 | call_me_K | shrugs |
| 05:06.40 | call_me_K | plasma crashes itself |
| 05:06.45 | call_me_K | lol |
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| 05:25.19 | lasith | hi guys!!! |
| 05:25.45 | lasith | i have issue with connecting my bluetooth with KDE |
| 05:25.56 | Bsims | How by the Kindly Ones can I get a plain system bell to work as a notification on KDE 4.2 on intrepid |
| 05:26.11 | lasith | is there any workaround for this? |
| 05:26.40 | call_me_K | points to the 124,432,892 people in single file |
| 05:26.50 | call_me_K | line for bluetooth's over there |
| 05:27.37 | call_me_K | seriously, it vaires depending on drivers and kernel versions, your distro's support is often the best starting point |
| 05:28.11 | call_me_K | bluetooth in linux is still pretty tempermental |
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| 05:28.45 | lasith | ok,Is dolphin support obex protocol |
| 05:28.47 | lasith | ? |
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| 05:30.15 | Bsims | How by the Kindly Ones can I get a plain system bell to work as a notification on KDE 4.2 on intrepid... I even told it to run a bash program that does nothing but ring the system bell no joy surely this isn't that hard to do |
| 05:31.34 | call_me_K | Bsims: try dumping pulseaudio as a sound server and using alsa |
| 05:31.39 | derek_k | Bsims: system-settings notifications, there is a system bell tab to enable it. at least here |
| 05:32.19 | call_me_K | all my sound problems seem to go away the minute I kick pulseaudio to the curb |
| 05:32.51 | Bsims | call_me_K: Hrm I am considering that |
| 05:32.59 | Bsims | though best I can tell its not running |
| 05:33.40 | Bsims | ps auxf|grep pulse shows nothing |
| 05:34.01 | call_me_K | my system bell sounds through the stereo output |
| 05:34.32 | call_me_K | that's with alsa, and it was default, I haven't toched a thing but the mixer |
| 05:34.38 | call_me_K | oh, that's a though |
| 05:34.46 | Bsims | call_me_K: and thats wrong I want it to go through the system bell and I can't find the setting to tell it to do so it works just fine with urxvt |
| 05:34.50 | call_me_K | make sure the system bell isn't muted in the mixer |
| 05:34.54 | Bsims | but nothing kde does will touch it |
| 05:36.21 | Bsims | call_me_K: was turned down now fixed |
| 05:36.24 | Bsims | still nothing |
| 05:36.31 | call_me_K | not muted? |
| 05:36.40 | Bsims | Its really starting to piss me off Nope and volume on high |
| 05:38.07 | Bsims | the program I am running to try to get it to work is |
| 05:38.08 | Bsims | #!/bin/bash |
| 05:38.10 | Bsims | echo -e \\a |
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| 05:39.50 | call_me_K | in the control panel, under sound there is a section for outputs |
| 05:39.57 | Bsims | Its a minor issue but I used to run sid for crying outloud... |
| 05:40.29 | Bsims | It shows me my soundcard |
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| 05:40.41 | call_me_K | under system notifications ensure your device is set to system bell vs the sound card |
| 05:40.43 | Bsims | then below that pulseaudio |
| 05:42.29 | Bsims | I hit the tick mark for Use system bell instead of system notification |
| 05:42.45 | Bsims | call_me_K: I am on kubuntu if that makes a difference |
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| 05:42.59 | Bsims | and a test of it works |
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| 05:43.35 | call_me_K | silly simple stuff, eh? |
| 05:43.57 | Bsims | Yeah and its really starting to chap my bum <g> |
| 05:44.05 | call_me_K | distro-specific branding isn't helpful |
| 05:44.27 | Bsims | I have under beep for system notifications play a sound or desktop notification or log it to a damned file |
| 05:44.29 | call_me_K | everyone has to rework the kde control panel to the way they THINK it should be |
| 05:44.40 | Bsims | Oh I know |
| 05:44.50 | Bsims | its nearly enough to drive me back to Mother Debian |
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| 05:47.04 | Bsims | And konversation is useless |
| 05:47.11 | Bsims | At least the channell is |
| 05:48.03 | Bsims | What I want to know is who thought it a good idea to route system bell over bloody speakers |
| 05:48.27 | Bsims | Every PC has a system bell it may not have speakers or even a monitor attatched localy |
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| 05:49.55 | call_me_K | I like konversation as a client |
| 05:50.06 | call_me_K | funny, my bell also doesn't work |
| 05:50.23 | call_me_K | then again I never cared for it anyway |
| 05:50.35 | Bsims | I like it as a gui client and this is a bug dating back to 3.4? that bell doesn't work |
| 05:50.40 | Bsims | consistently |
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| 05:51.29 | Bsims | Nice to know it isn't just me then |
| 05:51.41 | Bsims | grins and goes to work out some agression |
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| 05:52.25 | call_me_K | it very well could be hardware issues |
| 05:52.53 | call_me_K | kde is not responsible for kernel modules that don't fully support certain chipsets, after all |
| 05:52.58 | Bsims | Not when it works with urxvt... |
| 05:53.20 | Bsims | or xterm or a bash script that rings the system bell |
| 05:54.42 | call_me_K | but kde pipes through a sound server |
| 05:54.50 | Bsims | Bah hell with it for tonight, I don't use it much anyway |
| 05:54.50 | call_me_K | which is 3rd party |
| 05:54.55 | Bsims | true enough |
| 05:55.04 | call_me_K | now I'm annoyed |
| 05:55.05 | Bsims | how to tell if I am running pulseaudio |
| 05:55.13 | call_me_K | I'll be up all night sourcing it |
| 05:55.20 | Bsims | LOL sorry |
| 05:55.25 | Bsims | offers you some whiskey |
| 05:55.57 | call_me_K | I... um, forget X( |
| 05:56.11 | call_me_K | been looking everywhere |
| 05:56.56 | Bsims | ps auxf|less doesn't show me pulse audio anywhere |
| 05:57.22 | call_me_K | the first thing I do when I install a new system is get rid of pulseaudio |
| 05:57.46 | Bsims | Ah never mind its not running at all /usr/bin/artsd |
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| 05:58.05 | Bsims | Yeah pulseaudio is a solution in search of a problem |
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| 05:58.23 | Bsims | and it manages to suck very very large things through small holes |
| 05:58.35 | call_me_K | arts isn't helpfull either |
| 05:58.56 | Bsims | Well at least arts manages to suck less currently |
| 05:59.05 | call_me_K | arts is long overdue for an overhaul |
| 05:59.27 | Bsims | laughs I know its software its gonna suck but give me something that sucks in known and predicitable ways |
| 05:59.44 | call_me_K | but kwin and plasma are currently black holes absorbing all available labor |
| 05:59.53 | Bsims | and plasma needs it |
| 06:00.00 | call_me_K | yes |
| 06:00.07 | call_me_K | fantastic technology |
| 06:00.15 | call_me_K | but very juvenile |
| 06:00.17 | Bsims | Once its actually there |
| 06:00.33 | Bsims | grins I started kde 3x at 3.1.x |
| 06:00.42 | Bsims | and watched it grow |
| 06:00.59 | call_me_K | kde 3.1 was my fist KDE :) |
| 06:01.08 | call_me_K | prior to that it was ellightenment |
| 06:01.11 | Bsims | it was first usable at 3.2x or enough to replace wmaker |
| 06:01.55 | Bsims | laughs kids today and their lxde (great desktop btw)... wmaker is good enought to be the ancestor at the core of OSX |
| 06:02.16 | Bsims | Well wmaker with gnustep libs |
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| 06:03.31 | Bsims | hrm if I could get konversation to number open tabs I could use the years of irssi reflexes to move between tabs... |
| 06:03.36 | Bsims | files a wishlist |
| 06:04.23 | call_me_K | I'm petitioning for an online wishlist |
| 06:04.36 | call_me_K | users can suggest features for kapps |
| 06:04.44 | Bsims | I thought it had it... well kinda |
| 06:04.51 | call_me_K | and others can respond in a positive or negative way |
| 06:05.15 | call_me_K | the data can be used to decide what's implemented and what's not |
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| 06:05.45 | Bsims | This is kubuntu specific but we have something kinda like that for Ubuntu... its called brainstorm |
| 06:05.48 | Bsims | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ |
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| 06:07.14 | Bsims | call_me_K: idea is folks toss out something and everyone can vote on it |
| 06:07.45 | call_me_K | exactly |
| 06:08.15 | Bsims | you might want to steal that idea |
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| 06:32.13 | Tomosius | hello everyby, i've got question. I'm using Gentoo AMD64 and KDE 4.2. Everything works well, except when i try to emerge kuroo (for browsing and unmasking packages), it truies to emerge kdelibs 3.5.9 (olderversion). why? why it can not see kdelibs 4.2 |
| 06:33.07 | call_me_K | that's a question for the gentoo package maintainers |
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| 06:38.34 | Ghabit | Hello. Where I can find default background for kdm? |
| 06:39.54 | call_me_K | to change it, or to locate the image file itself? |
| 06:41.06 | Ghabit | To change it. |
| 06:43.44 | call_me_K | in the system settings dialog, advanced tab, system heading, click login manager |
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| 06:44.35 | call_me_K | be aware some distrobutions like openSUSE have a bad habbit of overriding those settings |
| 06:45.12 | call_me_K | if what you tell kdm to do isn't what happens, that's probably the case |
| 06:46.59 | PuffTheMagic | is it possible to build kde4 without using avahi or mDNSresponder? |
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| 06:58.46 | chakie_work | so, was there some way for my kde 4.2 session to ungrab the mouse that it keeps grabbing all the time and thus rendering the whole system ready for a reboot? |
| 06:59.22 | chakie_work | having to reboot twice a day because the mouse is lost feels like a first beta of windows 95 |
| 07:01.25 | call_me_K | I must say that's new to me... |
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| 07:04.25 | call_me_K | keyboard stops responding, yes |
| 07:04.30 | call_me_K | mouse no.... |
| 07:04.52 | chakie_work | the mouse moves, but it's lobotomized and can't be used |
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| 07:07.42 | chakie_work | well, i had better bite the bullet and go over to gnome for now, i can't spend half an hour to set up my working environment just to have to forcibly reboot after two hours |
| 07:07.59 | call_me_K | I've had that |
| 07:08.15 | call_me_K | typically caused by other, misbehaving apps however |
| 07:08.32 | call_me_K | wine likes to do it to me as well as dosbox |
| 07:11.11 | chakie_work | if i could log out nicely using some keyboard shortcut i could perhaps get some parts of my session restored |
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| 07:12.05 | chakie_work | as it is now my last successful logout was ages ago and kde can't restore it properly, all windows from my 10 dual head desktops gets into one single virtual desktop |
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| 07:18.30 | call_me_K | wow |
| 07:18.42 | call_me_K | a 10 head display? |
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| 07:24.36 | Dhraakellian | how would I forceably disable the screensaver/lock if the kcm doesn't seem to be having any effect? |
| 07:24.55 | Dhraakellian | is it controlled by plasma? |
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| 07:27.08 | call_me_K | I've never had an issue disabling it, to be honest |
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| 07:29.41 | Dhraakellian | wonders if it's a consequence of using the Factory repo for KDE in Suse |
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| 07:30.07 | call_me_K | My 4.2 installation came from factory |
| 07:31.10 | Dhraakellian | wonders where the config is for it |
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| 07:31.54 | call_me_K | my screen does lock when using parellel sessions' |
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| 07:32.50 | call_me_K | but not when the screensaver activates |
| 07:33.01 | Dhraakellian | well, I have it set to not lock |
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| 07:33.14 | Dhraakellian | but when I come back to my computer after being away for a while, it's locked |
| 07:33.24 | Dhraakellian | then I tried just disabling the screensaver altogether |
| 07:33.27 | Dhraakellian | it still locks |
| 07:34.25 | smurfslover | Dhraakellian: kde 4.2? |
| 07:34.31 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
| 07:34.44 | smurfslover | check powerdevil settings |
| 07:35.17 | smurfslover | you need to unmark 'lock desktop at resume' iirc |
| 07:35.38 | Dhraakellian | on a desktop box? |
| 07:36.12 | smurfslover | Dhraakellian: had the same problem here |
| 07:36.14 | Dhraakellian | unchecks nevertheless |
| 07:36.16 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 07:36.27 | smurfslover | i disabled powerdevil all the way |
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| 07:44.17 | chakie_work | call_me_K: no, dual head but 10 virtual desktops |
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| 07:44.54 | chakie_work | keeps procastinating the reboot and trying to limp along without mouse |
| 07:44.57 | iomari | I'm screwed. I just updated to 4.2 from 4.2 beta 2. I sed the same factory repos that I used to update to 4.2 beta 2. All went well with the update until I rebooted. Plasma crashes and I'm left with a black screen and my mouse cusor. |
| 07:44.59 | chakie_work | very hard |
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| 07:45.16 | chakie_work | iomari: restart plasma from a shell, seems to work |
| 07:45.20 | chakie_work | % plasma |
| 07:45.34 | iomari | chakie_work: I tried that, it just crahes everytime |
| 07:45.36 | chakie_work | of course, you have no shell... |
| 07:45.45 | iomari | i have yakuake |
| 07:46.24 | call_me_K | how did you upgrade? |
| 07:46.38 | iomari | chakie_work: every app i tried running fromyakuake works. I upgraded thru yast with factory repos. |
| 07:46.41 | chakie_work | i miss the stability of kde3, but now that i have seen some of the light using a kde3 desktop seems ancient. i rather do gnome |
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| 07:47.09 | iomari | chakie_work: I tried gnome but it sucks. not as configurable as kde. |
| 07:47.32 | chakie_work | iomari: it does, yes, but it's quite stable |
| 07:47.47 | chakie_work | stability is what i need for my work desktop, not fancy effects |
| 07:48.01 | call_me_K | disable desktop effects |
| 07:48.06 | call_me_K | rock soild :) |
| 07:48.08 | iomari | chakie_work: Sme of the "fancy" stuff has altered the way I work for the better. |
| 07:48.22 | iomari | 4.2 beta worked flawlessly for me. |
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| 07:48.27 | iomari | what can I do now? |
| 07:49.20 | call_me_K | iomari: suse's what I know! use yast to remove the kde 4.2b packages altogther, then install the 4.2 versions |
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| 07:50.12 | call_me_K | it was actually yast that messed up on you, or to be more correct the moron that did the spec files on the rpms |
| 07:50.19 | chakie_work | my wife's kubuntu where she upgraded to 4.2 from 4.1.4 broke so badly we had to remove everything related to kde to get rid of the 4.1 packages andf then reinstall 4.2 |
| 07:50.34 | chakie_work | nothing worked, every package was broken |
| 07:50.48 | chakie_work | but that's quite common with kubuntu |
| 07:50.51 | call_me_K | same issue on suse |
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| 07:51.02 | call_me_K | it's the package maintainers that screwed up |
| 07:51.03 | chakie_work | you just need to know how much you should nuke and the reinstall |
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| 07:52.20 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 07:52.40 | chakie_work | how can i trigger the logout screen from the keyboard? |
| 07:52.50 | chakie_work | or the k menu for that matter |
| 07:53.19 | chakie_work | seems it's plasma that has grabbed the mouse and perhaps stops the k menu from reacting to ctrl-f1 |
| 07:53.48 | call_me_K | do you have crtl-alt-f1? |
| 07:53.51 | chakie_work | a developer that deems it necessary to grab the mouse ought to be shot |
| 07:54.24 | chakie_work | c-a-f1 changes to a text console, as it's always done |
| 07:55.48 | call_me_K | so run "shutdown -r now" as root via the console |
| 07:56.03 | call_me_K | that should get you a good session on restore |
| 07:56.47 | chakie_work | that sounds more like ctrl-alt-backspace to me |
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| 07:56.56 | chakie_work | but there are shortcuts for logging out |
| 07:57.05 | chakie_work | c-a-l is "lock screen" |
| 07:57.28 | chakie_work | there is some similar for logout, i saw it yesterday |
| 07:58.01 | chakie_work | if i could get to the k menu i's check out the shortcut |
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| 07:59.35 | chakie_work | c-a-del |
| 08:00.41 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | hey guys, I've a minor problem |
| 08:01.19 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | I can't find the desktop view plasmoid |
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| 08:03.28 | call_me_K | oops |
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| 08:03.40 | call_me_K | forgot I disabled confirm logout earlier |
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| 08:04.12 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | so can anyone help me? |
| 08:04.43 | call_me_K | does it require advanced physcology? |
| 08:05.14 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | probably not |
| 08:05.20 | call_me_K | then maybe |
| 08:05.35 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | as I stated before, I can't find the desktop view plasmoid |
| 08:06.08 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | It should be in the add plasmoid list, shouldn't it? |
| 08:06.14 | FlyingFoX | search for dashboard |
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| 08:07.04 | call_me_K | just got here |
| 08:07.06 | call_me_K | well, back |
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| 08:07.15 | call_me_K | logged myself out unwillingly |
| 08:07.21 | call_me_K | and yes, it's there |
| 08:07.31 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | got it, but that is not the folder view |
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| 08:08.57 | call_me_K | no, folder view is called "folder view" |
| 08:09.04 | FlyingFoX | ShadowPhrogg3264: what behaviour are you searching for? |
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| 08:09.38 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | there's no folder view in my list |
| 08:10.09 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | and 'the install new widgets' dialog simply sucks |
| 08:10.13 | FlyingFoX | wich locale do you use? |
| 08:10.23 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | en |
| 08:11.03 | call_me_K | make sure you have all widgets selected in the drop-down and search for folder |
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| 08:11.41 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | nada |
| 08:11.48 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | only quick access |
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| 08:13.55 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | plasma crashed, thanks quick access |
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| 08:15.33 | call_me_K | what version? |
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| 08:16.38 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | 4.1.4 |
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| 08:17.09 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | got it, |
| 08:17.22 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | here's a kdebase-plasma package |
| 08:17.33 | ShadowPhrogg3264 | containing only folder view |
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| 08:19.14 | call_me_K | heh |
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| 08:49.50 | iomari | has anyone using suse 11.0 sucessfully upgraded kde from 4.2 beta 2 to 4.2 final? |
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| 09:28.19 | ungethym | iomari: I'm running OpenSUSE 11.0 with KDE 4.2 from the Factory repository. |
| 09:28.43 | ungethym | That should be 4.2 final, but as I know not a supportet stable version by OpenSUSE. |
| 09:29.08 | ungethym | perhaps you find more help at #suse |
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| 09:31.07 | ungethym | ok. I see you tried there and got no answer yet. :-( |
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| 10:30.34 | AliTarihi | anyone knows a replacement for kxkb?? |
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| 10:34.50 | Yoda---- | kde-marble-question: is there a way to have some kind of autorefresh placemarks ? (for example feeded by an http server or a file rewirten elsewhere |
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| 10:37.34 | hareldvd_ | Looking for kaudiocreator for Ubuntu. Can't find it on Synaptic package manager. Any idea? |
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| 10:45.10 | gnumm | hi |
| 10:45.21 | gnumm | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.17 | pinotree | you should ask in a firefox channel |
| 10:46.24 | charlyp | hareldvd_: Why you don't use sudo apt-get install kaudiocreator instead? |
| 10:47.22 | nital | is there replacement for gnome-typing-monitor in kde? this tool forces you to have a break for customizable time after every hour or whatever |
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| 10:49.22 | pinotree | nital: rsibreak |
| 10:49.29 | nital | i just found it |
| 10:49.39 | nital | but thanks anyway :) |
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| 10:54.44 | hareldvd_ | charlyp, E: Couldn't find package kaudiocreator. |
| 10:55.21 | hareldvd_ | charlyp, I will add a mirror to /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 11:01.49 | czd | hi |
| 11:03.22 | czd | KOffice 2.0 for windows and mac is still a Alpha release (or Beta)? |
| 11:03.35 | czd | http://www.koffice.org/releases/2.0alpha8-release.php |
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| 11:19.40 | monkey_d_luffy | How can I make a script execute when I log into my account? |
| 11:19.51 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm using KDE 3 |
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| 11:21.52 | cb400f | monkey_d_luffy: ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
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| 11:22.45 | monkey_d_luffy | thanks cb400f :) |
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| 11:23.10 | Rasi | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3897 |
| 11:23.13 | Rasi | dances |
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| 11:58.30 | dziadu | is it kde-4.2 channel or not? |
| 11:58.50 | Moult | dziadu: close enough |
| 11:58.52 | pinotree | this is kde user channel |
| 11:59.12 | Moult | hey guys, when I rightclick->appearance settings, and i click on a drop down list to change eg: my theme, kdm crashes and X restarts. any ideas? |
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| 11:59.38 | WindBack | I have recently installed ubuntu. When I look in the xorg.conf file to see the default configuration i see that the file is empty. I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but the "wizard" dont askme nothing related to the video configuration. I want to know from what place xorg is taking the video configuration?? |
| 11:59.54 | pinotree | WindBack: â #kubuntu |
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| 12:01.09 | dziadu | is it normal behaviour that ftp doesn't copy empty files? I use dolphin as ftp client and it want copy empty files? |
| 12:01.10 | doc___ | does any one know how to change the effect of alt+tab on kde 4.2 ? |
| 12:01.19 | dziadu | is it dolphin or ftp itself problem? |
| 12:01.28 | Rasi | doc___: systemsettings -> Desktop |
| 12:01.49 | Rasi | then go to tab "All Effects" |
| 12:01.57 | Rasi | ah actually |
| 12:01.59 | doc___ | Rasi: thank you :) |
| 12:02.00 | Rasi | no dont do that |
| 12:02.12 | Rasi | you can just use the main tab and change it in drop down menu |
| 12:02.12 | doc___ | Rasi: nah, I simply |
| 12:02.14 | doc___ | ops |
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| 12:02.21 | doc___ | I simply disabled the change window effect... :) |
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| 12:59.04 | hareldvd_ | since kaudiocreator can not be installed due to it's dependencies (kdemultimedia-kio-plugin 3.5) I am looking for a recommendation on another ripping software. |
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| 13:13.45 | Chris-NB | hi |
| 13:13.47 | linux--guy | but there are gnome programs that will run fine under kde |
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| 13:14.14 | Chris-NB | in kde 3.X there used to be a switch to configure that. but I can't find in kde 4.2 |
| 13:14.17 | Chris-NB | anyone knows? |
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| 13:19.11 | Sho_ | hareldvd_: Does KDE's built-in ripping not satisfy your needs? |
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| 13:53.51 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i got a question im running the svn build of kde and i think im missing something in regards to the plasmoids as well as i keep getting error message about konsole crashing |
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| 13:55.17 | annma | eagles0513875: svn trunk? |
| 13:55.23 | eagles0513875 | yep |
| 13:55.29 | annma | konsole is very fine here |
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| 13:55.37 | eagles0513875 | i have akonadi kdebase kde libs and kdepimlibs installed |
| 13:55.38 | annma | what's the crash backtrace? |
| 13:55.43 | eagles0513875 | how do i run that |
| 13:56.03 | annma | run konsole, it crashes, you get a dialog, get the trace |
| 13:56.07 | eagles0513875 | right now im in the process of updating everything svn related i havent updated them in a few days |
| 13:56.17 | annma | or run konsole through gdb |
| 13:56.36 | eagles0513875 | right now im on tty1 ill head back to the desktop once i finish updating everythign and try it from there |
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| 13:57.54 | annma | so what was the question about? |
| 13:58.08 | eagles0513875 | my main question is in regards to the plasmoids |
| 13:58.17 | eagles0513875 | the one of the desktop for instance |
| 13:58.45 | DrSlony | Help, I am creating a new home dir for myself and I would like to migrate all emails and email accounts, how do I do that? |
| 13:58.53 | eagles0513875 | the text is black and there is no box behind it and the lil notebad is black text with no background its like im missing something from the svn trunk |
| 13:59.20 | eagles0513875 | annma: just looked when it says the program konsole has crashed i have no kmenu no nothing |
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| 14:02.39 | eagles0513875 | is there a way i can view whats on the svn repo |
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| 14:08.53 | annma | eagles0513875: do you follow a doc to build svn trunk? |
| 14:09.04 | eagles0513875 | im using cmake |
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| 14:09.15 | eagles0513875 | the cmake command that amarok uses when u cmake it from svn |
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| 14:09.36 | annma | you do not use a doc to build KDE? |
| 14:10.10 | eagles0513875 | i did follow the getting started |
| 14:10.14 | eagles0513875 | the pre requisites and what not |
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| 14:10.47 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 14:11.05 | annma | follow this and make sure you have all your env vars set up properly |
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| 14:13.34 | tstaerk | hihi.. I wrote this :) |
| 14:13.44 | tstaerk | is proud |
| 14:14.03 | annma | hmmm I started it with pinotree tstaerk |
| 14:14.05 | Sho_ | pats tstaerk on the back |
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| 14:14.36 | annma | it originates from KDE-Edu, how to build KDE4 at a time when few people built it |
| 14:15.11 | tstaerk | annma, no. http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4&offset=20070327222145&limit=500&action=history |
| 14:15.11 | annma | Sho_: can you pat me as well? |
| 14:15.11 | pinotree | nods |
| 14:15.18 | annma | no? |
| 14:15.22 | tstaerk | no. |
| 14:15.25 | annma | yes |
| 14:15.27 | Sho_ | annma: of course! |
| 14:15.34 | Sho_ | pats annma and pino |
| 14:15.45 | pinotree | tstaerk: yes, this version did not start in techbase, but on developer.k.o |
| 14:15.58 | pinotree | then it was moved later to techbase |
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| 14:16.08 | annma | techbase did not exist at the time |
| 14:16.11 | eagles0513875 | is getting frustrated with a few things from svn :( |
| 14:16.20 | annma | eagles0513875: just follow this doc |
| 14:16.25 | annma | and you'll be fine |
| 14:16.26 | eagles0513875 | i already did that |
| 14:16.30 | annma | did you |
| 14:16.33 | eagles0513875 | yes |
| 14:16.37 | annma | you mentioned amarok |
| 14:16.55 | annma | if you are confused, your build is likely tobe confused as well |
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| 14:17.27 | annma | eagles0513875: what's your install dir? |
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| 14:17.47 | Sho_ | annma: lol "if you are confused, your build is likely to be confused as well" is classic |
| 14:17.52 | eagles0513875 | i have the source code from svn on my desktop annew |
| 14:17.54 | eagles0513875 | mt annma |
| 14:18.12 | eagles0513875 | annma: this is the cmake command i used cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull .. && make && make install |
| 14:18.26 | annma | ouch |
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| 14:18.51 | annma | eagles0513875: what is `kde4-config --prefix` when kdelibs is not build? |
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| 14:19.16 | eagles0513875 | annma: the first thing i built was the libs |
| 14:19.16 | annma | are you overwriting an existing kde4 install??? |
| 14:19.19 | annma | no |
| 14:19.23 | eagles0513875 | yes |
| 14:19.26 | annma | you cannot build kdelibs first |
| 14:19.33 | annma | you need a few support packages |
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| 14:19.52 | eagles0513875 | i have the packages that are listed on the techbase installed already |
| 14:19.55 | eagles0513875 | the required packages for kubuntu |
| 14:20.15 | eagles0513875 | i also have akonadi as well as phono svn as well |
| 14:20.15 | annma | trunk is trunk and usually requires kdesupport from trunk |
| 14:20.27 | eagles0513875 | such as phonon and akonadi |
| 14:20.34 | annma | akonadi and phonon svn? what svn? |
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| 14:20.39 | annma | all KDE is svn, even kde3 |
| 14:20.47 | eagles0513875 | i got them from trunk i mean |
| 14:21.02 | annma | so where are they installed? (which was my first question) |
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| 14:21.13 | annma | [15:17] <annma> eagles0513875: what's your install dir? |
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| 14:21.24 | eagles0513875 | in a build directory thats located in the folder that has the source code |
| 14:21.39 | annma | eagles0513875: stop and start thinking |
| 14:21.49 | eagles0513875 | to be honest i dunno |
| 14:21.50 | annma | you have 3 dirs: source, build and install |
| 14:22.06 | eagles0513875 | so then in the install directory |
| 14:22.11 | annma | so now think of where all of these are |
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| 14:22.58 | eagles0513875 | libs are in /usr |
| 14:23.04 | annma | ouch |
| 14:23.21 | eagles0513875 | annma: im new to working with stuff from the trunk |
| 14:23.24 | annma | did you use .bashrc as indicated in the doc? |
| 14:23.34 | annma | eagles0513875: the doc is for newbies |
| 14:23.43 | eagles0513875 | for some reason im finding it super confusing |
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| 14:23.56 | annma | you just have to FOLLOW it |
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| 14:24.28 | eagles0513875 | well i guess a reinstall is in order |
| 14:24.44 | annma | do you have the .bashrc as indicated on the page? |
| 14:24.58 | annma | because your cmake command does not follow the doc |
| 14:25.14 | eagles0513875 | yes i have .bashrc |
| 14:25.16 | syKko | hi all, i've a problem with my keyboard - a key was pressed a long time, and my keyboard is now completly unresponsive |
| 14:25.24 | syKko | how can i recover her |
| 14:25.24 | annma | eagles0513875: so pastebin it please |
| 14:25.52 | eagles0513875 | annma: your talking about the .bashrc thats hidden |
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| 14:29.44 | annma | eagles0513875: you can edit .bashrc and ctrl-a then paste that in a pastebin |
| 14:29.56 | eagles0513875 | gotcha |
| 14:30.17 | eagles0513875 | well im just going to do a reinstall and stick with what works for now right now between assignments and what not i dont have time |
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| 14:38.54 | rdale | does anyone know how to make kate remember its plugin settings? everytime i start it, the terminal tab is missing |
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| 14:39.32 | DrSlony | Help, I am creating a new home dir for myself and I would like to migrate all kmail emails and email accounts, how do I do that? |
| 14:39.56 | Sho_ | rdale: Save the Session (or do "Save as Default" if you always start with a new/empty session) |
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| 14:41.42 | rdale | Sho_ : great thanks thats been annoying me for a while |
| 14:42.56 | Sho_ | rdale: It was worse in KDE 3 where there was no "Save as Default" and getting it to remember things for the default session required undocumented rituals of magic and praying |
| 14:43.31 | rdale | yes, but my terminal tab was always there though |
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| 14:45.56 | Torikun | Hello, I am running kde4.2 Ubuntu. Every time I launch an application, the desktop and taskbar reload. Any ideas? |
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| 14:47.22 | sandsmark | rdale: heh, thanks for asking, and Sho_: thanks for answering, I was trying to get rid of the terminal :) |
| 14:48.05 | Sho_ | hugs Yakuake |
| 14:48.07 | bendie | Hi, since 4.2, KWin switches off compositing for fullscreen windows. Is it possible to toggle off this behavior? |
| 14:48.26 | sandsmark | Sho_: exactly ;) |
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| 14:48.35 | Sho_ | bendie: #kwin would know |
| 14:48.46 | Zarin | bendie, yes it is |
| 14:49.11 | bendie | Zarin: how? |
| 14:51.02 | Zarin | bendie, in ~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc in the [Compositing] section add "UnredirectFullscreen=false" and then type `kwin --replace &` into Alt+F2 |
| 14:51.19 | sandsmark | Sho_: when yakuake is hidden, is the window "removed" (so when it is shown again, it is drawn from scratch) ? |
| 14:51.38 | sandsmark | (when it shows here, it first draws a rather ugly white rectangle :3) |
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| 14:51.46 | sandsmark | (when compositing is enabled) |
| 14:52.05 | Sho_ | sandsmark: There are hide() and show() calls involved, yes |
| 14:52.38 | sandsmark | would it help if the window was just moved outside the visible screen? :) |
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| 14:53.04 | Sho_ | sandsmark: That would be a hack :) |
| 14:53.08 | Zarin | sandsmark, right on to the screen above? :) |
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| 14:53.40 | sandsmark | hehe :P |
| 14:55.23 | bendie | Zarin: Great, it works, thanks a lot! Now I can use the zoom feature on fullscreen windows again. And won't have any more 1-second-disruptions when watching a dvd fullscreen and some notification pops up. I think there should be a gui for this option... |
| 14:55.57 | Zarin | bendie, 4.2 was in string freeze when it was added |
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| 14:58.35 | bendie | Zarin: so this will be gui-configurable in 4.3? Thanks for your great work on kwin and for your help. I already suspected there would be an kwinrc option for this but if you don't know how it's called... |
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| 14:59.11 | Sho_ | bendie: Tip: Most KDE apps have their config file settings documented in an XML .kcfg file that is part of the codebase |
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| 14:59.24 | Sho_ | bendie: As the settings handling code is generated from it |
| 15:00.29 | bendie | Sho_: I have to go to the svn server for this, right? |
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| 15:02.06 | bendie | Sho_: I mean, these files come with the sources and aren't included in the usual distribution's packages? |
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| 15:03.07 | Sho_ | bendie: yes, you can go to http://websvn.kde.org/ |
| 15:03.45 | Sho_ | bendie: but actually they're also installed |
| 15:03.49 | Sho_ | bendie: e.g. /usr/share/config.kcfg/kwin.kcfg |
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| 15:05.29 | Sho_ | bendie: A properly annotated one looks like http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/extragear/utils/yakuake/app/config/yakuake.kcfg?revision=845437 |
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| 15:05.58 | LaScience | hello |
| 15:06.21 | LaScience | anyone got some issue when walking through multiple desktop ? |
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| 15:07.14 | DrSlony | LaScience : what issue, what kde version? |
| 15:08.30 | bendie | Sho_: Hm, the ones under /usr/share/config.kcfg seem to be for KDE3 apps (I'm on Kubuntu 8.10 here). There is a kwin.kcfg in /usr/share/kde4/konfig.kcfg, but it isn't annotated and has no Compositing group... |
| 15:08.43 | LaScience | kde 3.5 - i've set up a shortkeys to go throiugh dsesktops and it just goes randomly (switching from 1 to 3 etc...) |
| 15:11.25 | LaScience | (sorry for mistypes) |
| 15:11.25 | Sho_ | bendie: kwin may not use KConfigXT (the settings framework) quite as nicely as it should |
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| 15:14.35 | bendie | Sho_: I found http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/kwin/, but I can't find anything kcfg-like around... |
| 15:14.55 | Zarin | Just use options.cpp like a man |
| 15:15.23 | Sho_ | bendie: kwin.kcfg is in the dir you just linked to, but as you say it doesn't contain the Compositing options apparently. bad coding on kwin's part :-P |
| 15:15.53 | Zarin | Hasn't been updated for 15 months |
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| 15:16.50 | bendie | Sho_: Oh, you are right, I didn't look well enough. Thanks for your help! |
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| 15:18.31 | sandsmark | hmm, is it somehow possible to make the notifications appear independent of the system tray? |
| 15:18.35 | sandsmark | (in 4.3) |
| 15:18.37 | sandsmark | *2 |
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| 15:19.55 | sandsmark | (short of making a custom plasmoids that only does notifications :) |
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| 15:35.16 | saLOUt | how can i import in kde the ssl certificate for mail.physik.hu-berlin.de? - i have no link to a .cert file or something like that. |
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| 15:49.10 | mini-man | why does weechat or irssi in screen in konsole look like utter CRAP? |
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| 15:49.15 | mini-man | it's rendered AWFUL |
| 15:49.17 | mini-man | I have no idea why |
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| 15:49.30 | mini-man | I've tried C-a C-L |
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| 16:04.57 | estan | mini-man: looks fine here, what's the problem? |
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| 16:06.04 | Zumbii | Is there some way to flush the CUPS printer buffer? Cancelling a print job does not appear to flush the buffer which feeds the printer. (and yes, I've turned the printer off and on. Repeatedly) |
| 16:06.36 | estan | mini-man: (this is what it looks like here; http://dose.se/irssi.png) |
| 16:07.36 | mini-man | estan: sry was afk |
| 16:07.44 | mini-man | estan: well, a bunch of text is overlapping |
| 16:07.59 | estan | and it looks fine in e.g. xterm? |
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| 16:08.07 | mini-man | estan: I tried vanilla irssi and vanilla weechat |
| 16:08.13 | mini-man | yes it works fine in xterm and urxvt |
| 16:08.48 | estan | hm. ok. weird. what version of konsole? i'm using 2.2 (SVN trunk). |
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| 16:09.10 | estan | but i haven't had problems in KDE 4.0, 4.1 or 4.2 either. |
| 16:09.12 | mini-man | same here |
| 16:09.14 | mini-man | from trunk |
| 16:09.22 | mini-man | it used to work fine in stable for me |
| 16:09.36 | estan | okay, it was a while since i updated, maybe two weeks. |
| 16:09.44 | estan | maybe something broke. |
| 16:10.02 | mini-man | I think so :) |
| 16:10.11 | mini-man | hm I'll try something brb |
| 16:10.13 | estan | ask in #kde-devel or file a bug. |
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| 16:12.43 | mini-man | well that was weird |
| 16:12.45 | mini-man | killed screen and restarted, fixed it o.0 |
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| 16:12.50 | mini-man | had screen up and running for > 2 weeks lol |
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| 16:20.16 | Shaan7 | (newbie) I have a small patch for a minor bug which I've noticed in system monitor - network applet. Should I file a new bug report and attach the patch, or should i mail it to a mailing list? |
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| 16:23.05 | LaScience | hello. Same topic again. |
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| 16:23.36 | LaScience | i've got an issue on kde 3.5 - i've edited the shortkey to go through multiple desktops but it just acts crazy (switching desktop in a nonsense order ! ) |
| 16:23.55 | LaScience | anyone using the shortkey for multiple desktops ? |
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| 16:25.40 | Dealer2mogette | i've a display problem with kde on my macbook pro (8600M GT) -> http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00320ut8.jpg |
| 16:25.48 | Dealer2mogette | do you know how can i resolve it ? |
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| 16:27.30 | LaScience | waow man, thats a big font |
| 16:28.36 | Shaan7 | Dealer2mogette: Have you tried restarting X ( ctrl + alt + backspace ) ? |
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| 16:29.59 | Dealer2mogette | no i haven't tried |
| 16:30.24 | Shaan7 | Dealer2mogette: give it a try ... |
| 16:30.27 | Dealer2mogette | i test and go back if it doesn't work |
| 16:30.30 | Dealer2mogette | yes |
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| 16:30.35 | Dealer2mogette | bye |
| 16:30.42 | Shaan7 | Dealer2mogette: k |
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| 16:35.54 | Phoxis | what i have to do if i want to use kbfx in KDE 4.2 in Fedora 10 |
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| 16:37.25 | FFForever | i just wanted to say WOW kde4 kicks but now (that most of the ui problems have been worked out) |
| 16:37.33 | FFForever | how do i auto start launchy though? |
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| 16:50.42 | FFForever | how do i auto start launchy when i login (i have already set my system to launch a blank session on login)? |
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| 16:51.14 | pinotree | FFForever: system settings â advanced â autostart |
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| 16:52.00 | Zumbii | CUPS? Printer buffer? |
| 16:52.17 | Dealer2mogette | Shaan7: ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work :s |
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| 16:52.27 | pinotree | Zumbii: #cups |
| 16:53.03 | Zumbii | pinotree: But that's the KDE printer which did that. |
| 16:53.03 | Zumbii | ;> |
| 16:53.25 | Zumbii | I'll try them. |
| 16:53.35 | Shaan7 | Shaan7: oh...sorry, then i couldn't be much help, though you can try recovery mode in grub's boot menu |
| 16:54.06 | Shaan7 | Dealer2mogette: apologies, the above message was for you |
| 16:54.15 | Dealer2mogette | ok ^^ |
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| 16:55.56 | Dhraakellian | dang, my desktop still locked |
| 16:56.22 | Dhraakellian | has the screensaver and password protection disabled |
| 16:56.34 | Dhraakellian | disabled the suggested setting in the power management settings |
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| 17:04.21 | quotemstr | kmail keeps popping up an LDAP login failed box. |
| 17:04.24 | quotemstr | How the heck can I turn it off? |
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| 17:04.45 | quotemstr | I have no LDAP resources in systemsetting's KDE resources. |
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| 17:22.10 | chakie | should mouse gestures work in kde4? |
| 17:22.31 | chakie | i mean, they worked fine in firefox and opera in kde3, now they won't work there anymore |
| 17:23.04 | chakie | so i suspect that something in kde steals them and don't let other apps get them |
| 17:23.39 | chakie | this stopped working when i updated to kde 4.0.3 or something. same opera version at least |
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| 17:27.37 | thiago_home | chakie: mouse gestures do not work |
| 17:27.50 | thiago_home | in KDE |
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| 17:27.53 | chakie | thiago_home: but are they also stolen? |
| 17:27.58 | thiago_home | for other applications, it's their business |
| 17:27.58 | thiago_home | no |
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| 17:28.17 | chakie | strange, as i've not managed to get them to work in any kde4 desktop |
| 17:28.28 | chakie | for apps where they've worked fine |
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| 17:46.02 | johannes__ | hi .. are there any nice tools to create a video cd/dvd from your average avi/divx/vidx? mencoder is too hard for me .. |
| 17:47.23 | hallowname | johannes__: avidemux, qdvdauthor, devede, k3b can do simple videocd and video dvd from mpg... |
| 17:47.50 | hallowname | johannes__: also, handbrake is a decent video conversion gui |
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| 17:48.07 | johannes__ | hallowname: qdvdauthor doesn't load a divx for me .. i didn't try avidemux yet |
| 17:48.35 | johannes__ | hallowname: is handbrake a gui tool? |
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| 17:48.52 | hallowname | johannes__: oh. avidemux has always worked for me... if its some exotic format like .lmz or .mat ill use wine with convertxtodvd :P |
| 17:49.06 | hallowname | johannes__: handbrake is cli but has a gnome and qt gui |
| 17:49.55 | johannes__ | hallowname .. i'll try avidemux |
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| 17:54.12 | FFForever | how do i change my theme? |
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| 17:58.24 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: systemsettings > appearance... or do you mean plasma theme? |
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| 17:58.46 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: change plasma theme by right clicking the desktop > desktop settings > theme (or get new themes) |
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| 17:59.47 | Voker57 | can somebody give me a link to 'midnight meadows' color scheme? |
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| 18:01.01 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, thanks, how do i change my radio button size, they are 2 big 4 gmail =( |
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| 18:01.35 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: under systemsettings > appearance > style (choose or install a widget style with small radio buttons) |
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| 18:01.54 | hallowname_FFF | Voker57: why can't you google it? |
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| 18:02.34 | Voker57 | hallowname_FFF: because i tried and it isn't there |
| 18:03.21 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, i cant just shrink it? |
| 18:03.24 | hallowname_FFF | Voker57: yea i couldn't find it either... |
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| 18:03.39 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: no, but certain widget styles have smaller radio buttons |
| 18:04.20 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: kmail takes less ram to read your email than gmail... |
| 18:04.37 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, but i like gmail XD |
| 18:04.37 | chetan | can somebody tell me any link from where i can freely download product like adobe connect |
| 18:05.29 | thiago_home | I have no idea what Adobe Connect does |
| 18:05.38 | thiago_home | so we can't tell you how to download a program like it |
| 18:05.43 | thiago_home | why don't you describe what it does? |
| 18:05.51 | Shaan7 | chetan: ya .... any anyway, how does this relate to kde ?? |
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| 18:06.15 | thiago_home | assumes chetan is asking for a KDE application that does what Adobe Connect does |
| 18:06.15 | chetan | Adobe connect is like presentation server |
| 18:06.38 | Shaan7 | chetan: oh, thanks for the info :0 |
| 18:06.49 | thiago_home | chetan: more info |
| 18:07.14 | chetan | presentation server as well as its use for support like goto meeting |
| 18:07.30 | thiago_home | can you describe without making references to other products? |
| 18:07.52 | chetan | ok from adobe connect you can give presentation to many people |
| 18:08.13 | thiago_home | I can do that with email |
| 18:08.17 | thiago_home | sends PDFs via email |
| 18:08.25 | thiago_home | many people receive my presentation |
| 18:08.28 | chetan | even you can take control of remote machine as well as you can give control of your machine |
| 18:08.37 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: kmail can read your gmail, i use gmail too :D but firefox is slooow... |
| 18:08.47 | thiago_home | ah, live and remote presentation |
| 18:08.47 | drantin | nx server or vnc? |
| 18:08.54 | chetan | yes live |
| 18:09.01 | thiago_home | sorry, I don't know of any products to do *specifically* that |
| 18:09.12 | thiago_home | you can use VNC to view a screen, which could be presenting |
| 18:09.14 | chetan | ok |
| 18:09.19 | thiago_home | and even take control, if the VNC server allows it |
| 18:09.32 | chetan | yes its good but for that i need live IP on each machine |
| 18:09.33 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, i have firefox open 24/7 =D |
| 18:09.36 | chetan | right |
| 18:09.39 | FFForever | but i have 3gb of ram... |
| 18:10.30 | chetan | and VNC it self little bit slow |
| 18:10.44 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: heh, id give a foot for 3gb ram :P im crippled anyway... i could put 3gb ram to way bettr use than a foot... |
| 18:11.07 | FFForever | =\ |
| 18:11.26 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, it came with my laptop...., i only use about 1-2gb max =\ |
| 18:11.59 | Shaan7 | chetan: if you really need it, you can run your windows version of Adobe Connect on WINE |
| 18:11.59 | Shaan7 | chetan: on kde |
| 18:12.12 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: i have 512mb, bc the economy suffers here. i use all 512 all day :P |
| 18:12.34 | FFForever | how do i make it so my menu only show progs from my current desktop? |
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| 18:12.38 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, where are you? |
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| 18:12.54 | chetan | for adobe connect we require only flash plugins nothing else |
| 18:13.09 | chetan | but the cost of adobe connect is very high |
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| 18:13.59 | chetan | thats why i am finding any free linux based product |
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| 18:14.39 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: rural southern america =[ |
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| 18:15.13 | FFForever | i am in los angeles |
| 18:15.15 | FFForever | =D |
| 18:15.53 | Shaan7 | chetan: sorry, no idea (google knows everything :) ) |
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| 18:16.10 | chetan | ok no prob |
| 18:16.16 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: id like to live in a developed part of the world :P maybe with coffee shops and an actual kde community ;p |
| 18:16.17 | chetan | thanks for your help |
| 18:16.22 | _Gabriel_ | I'm looking for support , is this the right channel? |
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| 18:16.34 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: it is, what's your problem? |
| 18:17.00 | chetan | can you tell me from where i can download network related tools |
| 18:17.01 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: I need to make a default conf to plasma |
| 18:17.12 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, any idea about my menu problem, i use 2 be able to do it in kde3 =\ |
| 18:17.24 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: default conf? you mean backup your plasma settings? |
| 18:17.34 | _Gabriel_ | yes and no |
| 18:17.35 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: what problem is that? |
| 18:17.54 | _Gabriel_ | i need to customize the panel |
| 18:17.58 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: backup /home/you/.kde4 for that... what's the no? |
| 18:17.58 | _Gabriel_ | and then |
| 18:18.09 | _Gabriel_ | every new user have that defult conf |
| 18:18.15 | _Gabriel_ | no |
| 18:18.21 | _Gabriel_ | that is just for me |
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| 18:18.34 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, like i said above, how do i make my menu only show apps from my current desktop? |
| 18:18.57 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: oh, make a new user, set the configuration like you want, then copy /home/user/.kde4 to /etc/skel/.kde4, even new user will get the kde4 settings from /etc/skel, i think anyway... what distro? |
| 18:19.16 | _Gabriel_ | distro? opensuse |
| 18:19.18 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: you mean your taskmanager? the menu doesn't show apps |
| 18:19.25 | _Gabriel_ | ok |
| 18:19.31 | FFForever | the thingie at the bottom of my screen?/ |
| 18:19.32 | _Gabriel_ | skel might work |
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| 18:19.52 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: opensuse uses skel correctly |
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| 18:20.11 | _Gabriel_ | but it seems that /etc/kde4/share/config is somehow more reliable |
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| 18:20.53 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: yes, that's your task manager, right click some empty space and choose 'task manager settings' then choose 'only from this desktop' |
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| 18:21.25 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: more reliable that what? skel gets copied on user creation regardless... |
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| 18:21.49 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: try right clicking in between tasks if you can't find it |
| 18:22.07 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: yes but if the user clear his conf, skel wont work |
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| 18:22.42 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: kde4 seems to get its default conf from /etc/kde4 |
| 18:22.50 | FFForever | thanks hallowname_FFF |
| 18:22.53 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: user's can't delete conf. you can make a .desktop for 'restore default settings' that just executes 'kdesu cp /etc/skel/.kde4 /home/user/ -a' |
| 18:22.59 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: it does |
| 18:23.04 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: np |
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| 18:23.26 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: it works for lots of applications but doesnt seems to work with plasma for panels |
| 18:23.42 | FFForever | hallowname_FFF, btw gl on getting more ram, kde4 + 512 must be lame.... |
| 18:24.10 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: oh? moving .kde4 around remembers my panel settings.. not that ive dont it too many times ;P |
| 18:24.17 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: plasma get the wallpaper conf and the theme conf but no other |
| 18:24.19 | hallowname_FFF | FFForever: nah it runs sweet actually... :D thx tho |
| 18:24.21 | Half-Left | KDE4 with 512mb of ram, should be lame |
| 18:24.37 | Half-Left | shouldn't* |
| 18:24.41 | hallowname_FFF | Half-Left: nope, all effects are go too |
| 18:24.51 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: i was trying to avoid skel in fact |
| 18:25.14 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: ahh, i can't say then, that was my best idea... what are you trying to surmount/bypass/achieve? |
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| 18:26.46 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: i was trying to make like a distro, based on suse, suse uses /etc/kde4 dir for the default conf for kde4 |
| 18:27.08 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: everithing works! except for plasma |
| 18:27.47 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: plasma now seems to use a plasma-appletrc, alonmg with the plasmarc conf file |
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| 18:28.07 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: hmm, compiled yourself or are you using suse kde4 packages? my plasma remembers its stuff when i move its config aroudn... |
| 18:28.07 | _Gabriel_ | _Gabriel_: sorry for the bad english... |
| 18:28.26 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: it does |
| 18:28.27 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: using kde4 package |
| 18:28.46 | _Gabriel_ | hallowname_FFF: yes, and this seems to be the problem |
| 18:28.51 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: i can't say, i compile my own, and i dont have that issue... check #opensuse-kde mebbe? |
| 18:29.26 | _Gabriel_ | okay |
| 18:29.26 | _Gabriel_ | ill try that |
| 18:29.26 | _Gabriel_ | thx |
| 18:29.27 | hallowname_FFF | _Gabriel_: np |
| 18:29.57 | Slike | can anyone tell me which file i should edit to disable some plasmoids permanently? there are 2 plasmoids coming back always again, each time i log in |
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| 18:30.28 | Slike | i'm using the latest kde 4.2 (suse) |
| 18:30.33 | Slike | if that matters |
| 18:32.08 | hallowname_FFF | Slike: /home/you/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc but it sounds like you have bad packages too... you should check your installation, you shouldn't have to manually edit that file... |
| 18:33.13 | Slike | no, it's true users aren't supposed to do that ;) |
| 18:33.21 | Slike | i'm constantly updating though |
| 18:33.27 | Slike | even right at this moment ;) |
| 18:34.19 | Slike | or should i wipe all .kde4 files and start over with new ones to make sure the new packages don't continue to use (partially) corrupted configfiles |
| 18:34.20 | Slike | ? |
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| 18:37.57 | FFForever | how do i refresh my menu without logging out/in? |
| 18:38.08 | pinotree | kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental |
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| 18:40.47 | glade88 | hello. is there a way I can make konsole use my network proxy for the CLI programs? |
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| 18:41.59 | simoo | hi, what determins whether a usb disk has a usb disk icon or a hd icon? |
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| 18:42.53 | glade88 | hello. is there a way I can make konsole use my network proxy for the CLI programs? |
| 18:42.53 | glade88 | (I am using Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2) |
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| 18:48.57 | sandsmark | simoo: I would guess HAL has some magic |
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| 18:53.09 | simoo | sandsmark: I just have two usb disks and they apear different, was curious :) |
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| 19:03.01 | isi | is it possible to open the kde menu with windows key only? so only a one key shortcut, I'm using kde4.2 |
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| 19:04.52 | hallowname_FFF | isi: kde sees windowss as a meta modifier (toggle), so kde wont let you, but xmodmap i think can help if your very serious about needing a 1button menu |
| 19:04.54 | sandsmark | simoo: file a bug against HAL :) |
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| 19:05.56 | junkDawgie | kde4.2, the option to restore a manually saved session in systemsettings/Advanced/SessionManager, how is this implemented? ... there is no option using ksmserver from the cli to "save" only to -r.... |
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| 19:08.02 | jazka | junkDawgie: there's Save session button in kickoff -> leave |
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| 19:10.23 | junkDawgie | i'll investigate that,,, can't accidently logout at the moment... i assume its a submenu of one of the choices logout, shutdown, or restart? |
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| 19:11.50 | jazka | and I have it under qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer |
| 19:11.58 | jazka | it isn't |
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| 19:12.06 | jazka | method void org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession() |
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| 19:14.03 | jazka | qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer saveCurrentSession <- saves it |
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| 19:15.05 | junkDawgie | okay... but if that will save it, can you assign it a indentity to call it with the -r option? |
| 19:16.29 | jazka | qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer saveCurrentSessionAs name |
| 19:16.46 | junkDawgie | amazing... you know your stuff.... thanks jazka |
| 19:16.58 | jazka | junkDawgie: you can browse dbus with qdbusviewer |
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| 19:17.21 | jazka | and use the same syntax to call them |
| 19:17.46 | jazka | or call directly from the qdbusviewer, right click -> call |
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| 19:19.46 | junkDawgie | i have done so for curiosity, but its not commited to memory.... i'm not blessed with photographic memory.. :) |
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| 19:19.59 | jazka | =) |
| 19:20.09 | junkDawgie | probably a good thing too |
| 19:20.40 | junkDawgie | kudos jazka.. my appreciation |
| 19:20.53 | jazka | np |
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| 19:23.10 | spirov92 | hi guys, switched from Gnome to KDE 4.2 and Qt apps use the KDE colors, but the Gnome theme |
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| 19:23.42 | spirov92 | in Qt settings, I've specified to use the Oxygen theme |
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| 19:25.21 | jazka | spirov92: system settings -> appearance -> style ? |
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| 19:29.15 | spirov92 | the Oxygen theme is set for KDE |
| 19:29.28 | shaka | Has anyone solved the full speed fan issue on fedora 10? |
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| 19:29.43 | spirov92 | and for Gtk themes I have Clearlooks |
| 19:29.55 | spirov92 | but that shouldn't matter to Qt, right? |
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| 19:30.57 | hallowname_FFF | shaka: maybe ask on #fedora ? |
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| 19:31.38 | shaka | hallowname_FFF: Sorry found it and asked there already |
| 19:33.08 | junkDawgie | greetings hallowname_FFF... have you gotten your plasmoid to the point that i can talk to it yet? :) |
| 19:35.14 | hallowname_FFF | junkDawgie: no =[ close though... just a minor cmake issue left to figure out |
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| 19:37.11 | junkDawgie | not sure i'll go that way.... i would probably "shred" my hard drive too often in fits of anger... but it's an interesting piece of work. |
| 19:37.27 | hallowname_FFF | any bored folks on trunk wanna take a peek at playground/base/plasma/applets/openbrain 's cmake? it compiles fine now, but doesn't install the plasmoid .so... =[ |
| 19:37.51 | hallowname_FFF | junkDawgie: heh, nah, it compiles and works fine, but cmake doesn't install the binaries like it should... |
| 19:38.07 | junkDawgie | good luck |
| 19:38.13 | hallowname_FFF | junkDawgie: thx |
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| 19:39.53 | OttoGrimwald | hello, in kde3 it was possible to middle click on the desktop and get a list (by names) of all windows opened. I can't find a similar option in kde4 |
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| 19:40.10 | OttoGrimwald | is it still possible? |
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| 19:40.54 | thiago_home | OttoGrimwald: not possible |
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| 19:41.05 | thiago_home | you can shove your mouse to the top-right and get the Present Windows effect |
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| 19:42.01 | OttoGrimwald | thiago_home : when I have 10 openoffice.org windows opened, I need to find them by name, not by appearance, because they all look the same! |
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| 19:42.30 | OttoGrimwald | Thank you for your answer, I'll fill a request on the bugtracker |
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| 19:51.02 | shaka | LCD weather plasmoid... How do i make it display a specific town in Europe? |
| 19:51.32 | thiago_home | you mean, besides selecting that city in the configuration> |
| 19:52.22 | shaka | thiago_home: yes the city i need does not feature in the data sourcees |
| 19:52.52 | thiago_home | not even BBC? |
| 19:53.42 | shaka | thiago_home: BBC finds a few towns in my country but not the one I live in and usually get while using XFCE |
| 19:54.10 | thiago_home | well, you have two choices: |
| 19:54.20 | thiago_home | 1) ask the current data sources to add your city |
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| 19:54.28 | thiago_home | or 2) add a new data source that contains your city |
| 19:56.24 | shaka | thiago_home: I think the first seems to be my only option right now, As for the second it does not seem to be possible with the present plasmoid |
| 19:57.10 | thiago_home | you can add more data sources in the code |
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| 19:58.18 | shaka | thiago_home: thanks for the tip i shall hit goolge right now and narrow down my options |
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| 20:00.29 | OttoGrimwald | thank you junkDawgie it's exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, it compiled fine and installed fine, but I can't find it in the widgets list. Maybe if I log off and in again (I've already restarted plasma). I couldn't find the app when trying to look in the "download new plasma widgets" option. |
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| 20:01.40 | Robo1981 | Hello |
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| 20:07.07 | pollus | hello how can i get help here?? |
| 20:07.12 | pollus | someone to talk? |
| 20:07.23 | maco | ask your question and someone will answer it |
| 20:07.27 | maco | if they can |
| 20:07.30 | pollus | ty |
| 20:09.29 | pollus | im trying to use the 4.2 in my slack12.2, i did download all the packages from the slack site, and did the install like in the README from the same site, but after i did install everything (deps, extragear, kde and kde3-compat) i run the xwmconfig but the ~kde~ option doesnt exist more |
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| 20:09.43 | pollus | then i cant start the x with kde 4.2 =\ |
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| 20:10.26 | pollus | and i did run the remove scripts of kde 3 and kde4 before start the instalation of packages |
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| 20:10.58 | ktulu77 | hi |
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| 20:11.08 | pollus | and the install of everything was without problems... the only problem is the xinitrx.kde doesnot exist more |
| 20:11.11 | pinotree | pollus: sounds like you might want to ask in #slackware |
| 20:11.29 | ktulu77 | I am looking for a way to change the luminosity of my desktop with kde4 and a shortcut |
| 20:11.34 | pollus | in this server? |
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| 20:12.15 | DrSlony | Help, where do I find the color scheme file i saved in systemsettings? |
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| 20:13.04 | hallowname_FFF | DrSlony: appearances > colors ? |
| 20:13.09 | DrSlony | yes |
| 20:14.07 | hallowname_FFF | DrSlony: oh you mean the file itself... i duno sry |
| 20:14.33 | DrSlony | ah got it... searching for my file didnt return any results, but i found it by searching for the standard ones |
| 20:14.34 | ktulu77 | DrSlony: try to find the files which finishes by .ksrc |
| 20:14.44 | DrSlony | /home/drslony/.kde4/share/apps/color-schemes/ |
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| 20:33.14 | Shanix | hi all, have a question regarding the KDE4, in KDE3, we used to be able to preview view the folder by size, the bigger size folder with bigger icon and vise versa.... |
| 20:33.24 | Shanix | Do we still have that in KDE4 ?? |
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| 20:34.08 | hallowname_FFF | Shanix: filelight has a radial size view... 'ls -Ssh' :P |
| 20:35.07 | sandsmark | filelight :D |
| 20:35.08 | hallowname_FFF | anyone know if there is a kbarcode qt4 port yet? |
| 20:35.35 | Shanix | hallowname_FFF, but I was thinking if it's possible to view the folder by size just like in KDE3 ?? |
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| 20:36.03 | pinotree | there's a konqueror plugin like before |
| 20:36.15 | hallowname_FFF | Shanix: i dont think so, maybe 'details view' sort by size... oh well listen to pinotree :D |
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| 20:44.26 | Shanix | hallowname_FFF, pinotree yes, thnak you. |
| 20:44.40 | Shanix | pinotree, do you happen to know the name for that plugin?? |
| 20:44.48 | pinotree | fsview |
| 20:45.03 | pinotree | look for a package of your distro with konqueror plugins for kde 4 |
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| 20:58.11 | marco_ | i have a problem with kde 4.2 |
| 20:58.12 | Shanix | pinheiro, got it, thank you very much |
| 20:58.19 | marco_ | plasma won't save plasmoid on desktop |
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| 20:58.35 | marco_ | i have a note widget on my desktop, i remove it, then reboot correctly |
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| 20:58.40 | marco_ | and the note plasmoid reappear |
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| 21:04.02 | cipolla | hi |
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| 21:08.34 | jad4_ | I still can't login with openID to news.kde.org |
| 21:08.45 | jad4_ | dot.kde.org that is |
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| 21:33.58 | [mors] | hi folks |
| 21:34.09 | [mors] | I'm trying to conect to anither machine which is runningKDE with a new X session |
| 21:34.27 | [mors] | ssh -X login@host gives me only a shell |
| 21:34.56 | [mors] | X -query host gives me a new X instance but the screen gets blank (with a chess pattern) |
| 21:35.09 | [mors] | I already did "xhost +" |
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| 21:35.26 | [mors] | is there something in KDE which might block the session ? |
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| 21:36.49 | thiago_home | you can't log in to an already-running KDE |
| 21:36.55 | thiago_home | that's how it works |
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| 21:37.02 | thiago_home | there's nothing wrong or blocking |
| 21:38.01 | [mors] | kde is running, but there it's stuck in the login screen, no session active |
| 21:38.04 | [mors] | I have ssh access |
| 21:38.12 | [mors] | can I kill kde and try to connect then ? |
| 21:38.36 | [mors] | when I say I really mean that kdm is up and running |
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| 21:41.09 | hallowname_FFF | anyone up to testing a plasmoid? you need trunk kde |
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| 22:27.35 | Deidi | hello |
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| 22:50.56 | judgen | Is anyone doing development on KDE3 still? |
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| 22:53.19 | BitingTreeFerret | how do I get KDE4's systemsettings to work over SSH? |
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| 22:54.33 | quotemstr | BitingTreeFerret: ssh -Y won't do the trick? |
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| 22:57.38 | svm_invictvs- | Hey got, I quick question. |
| 22:57.47 | svm_invictvs- | All my password boxes in KDE don't show the password as I type. |
| 22:57.54 | svm_invictvs- | Is there a way to set the password mask? |
| 22:58.39 | svm_invictvs- | So whne I type a pasword, it just shows nothing, no mask character. |
| 22:59.06 | pinotree | kde3 or kde4? |
| 23:03.17 | BitingTreeFerret | quotemstr: nope |
| 23:03.51 | svm_invictvs- | kde3 |
| 23:04.47 | judgen | svm_invictvs-: its in the kcontrol |
| 23:05.03 | svm_invictvs- | I'm looking... |
| 23:05.27 | judgen | under security and integrity |
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| 23:05.42 | judgen | >passwords and users |
| 23:05.47 | judgen | at the bottom |
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| 23:11.16 | judgen | In kopete, how to i remove the unused folders? |
| 23:11.33 | judgen | they reappear after i logout and in again. |
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| 23:17.48 | comawhite | I have a problem. my taskbar icons are gone but they are still there |
| 23:18.04 | comawhite | the programs |
| 23:18.17 | comawhite | version 4.2.64 |
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| 23:19.44 | hallowname_FFF | comawhite: gone but still there huh? that's kinda awful hard to make a good decision on what might be wrong... have you tried removing the 'task manager' applet and adding it back? |
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| 23:20.28 | judgen | kinda amising that the vista only games that came with the OS runs on kde with wine but not on xp.... |
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| 23:20.33 | judgen | amusing* |
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| 23:23.43 | comawhite | hallowname_FFF: no luck |
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| 23:25.20 | phoenixz | I have a (very small) enhancement idea for KDE4 desktop.. where can I submit it? |
| 23:26.04 | sepult | whishlist on kde.org ? |
| 23:26.13 | comawhite | bugs.kde.org |
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| 23:28.01 | phoenixz | comawhite: thanks! |
| 23:28.14 | comawhite | no problems |
| 23:28.20 | phoenixz | comawhite: though its not a bug, its a small wish.. |
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| 23:34.25 | phoenixz | comawhite: okay, this is fun.. I cant submit my wish.. the site is malfunctioning |
| 23:35.29 | ld50 | file a bug report |
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| 23:39.48 | comawhite | phoenixz: I guess KDE is updating bugzilla |
| 23:39.57 | comawhite | unless they already have |
| 23:40.51 | phoenixz | comawhite: that is usually the case, isnt it? :) |
| 23:41.16 | phoenixz | No KDE plasma programmer around here maybe? |
| 23:41.23 | comawhite | #plasma |
| 23:41.49 | phoenixz | comawhite: thanks! |
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| 23:46.44 | DrGrov | Hello |
| 23:46.56 | DrGrov | how is it possible that after restarting X with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, logging into Fluxbox, exiting Fluxbox and trying to shutdown the computer using the KDM login manager it throws me down into terminal 1 as init 2? |
| 23:47.16 | DrGrov | Sorry if it is off-topic but i consider this to be a KDM related issue but do correct me if I'm wrong |
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| 23:55.56 | peaches | is it just me or does kdegraphics trunk not compile cause it cant find its own libs: Could NOT find Okular (missing: OKULAR_LIBRARIES OKULAR_INCLUDE_DIR) |
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| 23:56.51 | soa2ii | Hi there... I really like KDE but I got a little angry too... wtf happens to the ui designer of kscd in kde4?! I always blamed windows tool like those ASUS Bios updater and so on for their crap ui.... now I just wanted to have a look at KSCD4 and I really got a shock... |
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| 23:57.59 | sandsmark | soa2ii: it looks pretty horrible :P |
| 23:58.00 | soa2ii | KDE4 is so cool ... I really do not know how such an application can still belong to KDE. Just wanted to say my opinion. |
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| 23:58.09 | sandsmark | I think some KDE artist wanted to fix it, but I think he forgot it :) |
| 23:58.18 | soa2ii | sandsmark: Horrible? That quite nice I think. |
| 23:58.25 | sandsmark | ;P |
| 23:58.37 | sandsmark | (luckily I don't listen to CD's often) |
| 23:58.49 | soa2ii | Why an artist? I think good software has a standard UI... not such an image crap... |
| 23:59.08 | sandsmark | the guy who last noticed it was an artist ;) |
| 23:59.10 | soa2ii | sandsmark: My CDs are all flac files and amaroK is nice ;) |
| 23:59.13 | sandsmark | (and the ui is skinnable, so) |
| 23:59.17 | sandsmark | soa2ii: same here ;) |
| 23:59.27 | sandsmark | I just use audiocd:/ in dolphin to rip them |
| 23:59.50 | soa2ii | sandsmark: Hm... I take k3b... does audiocd:/ improve smth? |
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