| 00:00.09 | Mr_Grieves| | Hello all -- any idea why kttsd won't work, but calling flite/mplayer manually does? |
| 00:00.36 | Dhraakellian | wouldn't mind it in multi-line text fields either, but ^U didn't do anything there in KDE3 either, so he's not complaining about that |
| 00:00.36 | Bille | Dhraakellian: konq is a special case, because the app defines its own ctrl-u shortcut |
| 00:00.44 | Dhraakellian | Bille: which I've changed |
| 00:01.06 | Dhraakellian | and sometimes ^U clears the line. Sometimes it still brings up the page source, even though I've told it not to |
| 00:01.09 | Mr_Grieves| | I've just been in #kde-accessibility asking CIA-58, but then I realized he's a bot :D |
| 00:01.10 | Dhraakellian | it's most infuriating |
| 00:01.14 | Bille | the behaviour changed between qt3 and qt4 so ctrl-u is no longer in the list of shortcuts which apps can't override |
| 00:01.26 | Bille | that sounds like a different bug |
| 00:01.53 | Bille | but basically ctrl-u and ctrl-k should still work except where the app uses that shortcut for its own ends |
| 00:02.00 | Dhraakellian | Bille: yeah. and more likely to be fixed by in KDE, I'd guess |
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| 00:02.21 | Bille | the reason for the change is for cross-platform compatibility, lots of windows apps used those shortcuts |
| 00:04.03 | Dhraakellian | okay, changed kopete's Show All shortcut to ctrl+shift+U |
| 00:04.12 | Dhraakellian | tried ^U in the filter bar |
| 00:04.19 | Dhraakellian | cleared the entire line, not just to the beginning |
| 00:04.50 | Dhraakellian | ^K did nothing (although it's not like I actually used ^K much or even remembered which key it was supposed to be most of the time) |
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| 00:07.11 | Mr_Grieves| | I suppose my real question is: Does ktts even work in 4.2.0, or is it still being implimented? |
| 00:07.11 | Bille | delete to end of line |
| 00:07.47 | Bille | Mr_Grieves|: i don't know. why don't you see if there is a kde-accessibility mailing list archiive? |
| 00:08.36 | Mr_Grieves| | Bille: 'k. |
| 00:08.45 | Bille | Mr_Grieves|: do you know where to look? |
| 00:09.51 | Mr_Grieves| | Bille: accessibility.kde.org, I believe. |
| 00:10.08 | Bille | and the main kde mailing lists page, off www.kde.org |
| 00:10.15 | Jucato | Mr_Grieves|: that's not a mailing list though |
| 00:10.27 | Mr_Grieves| | It's been my experience that the *.kde.org sites tend to not be updated often, so I like to come to IRC. |
| 00:10.43 | Jucato | mailing list != website |
| 00:10.51 | Mr_Grieves| | Although I admit I've forgotten about the mailing list archives. |
| 00:11.00 | Mr_Grieves| | Jucato: Yes. |
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| 00:11.53 | Jucato | http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility |
| 00:12.31 | Mr_Grieves| | nods. |
| 00:12.37 | Mr_Grieves| | Thanks :) |
| 00:12.57 | Dhraakellian | Bille: I gathered that |
| 00:13.07 | Dhraakellian | It's just that I never really remembered which key it was |
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| 00:16.26 | solifugus | Is kde for windows working ok? I've never tried it, but hear it exists. |
| 00:19.18 | Jucato | *some* kde apps can run on windows. #kde-windows and windows.kde.org for more info |
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| 00:28.36 | ccolorado | does dolphin Ctrl+F support negative conditions something like find all *.php files that do not contain "phpinfo()" |
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| 00:42.34 | ath_ | Does anyone know why I would be getting: Maximum number of clients reachedError: cannot open display: :0, while trying to open new applications in KDE 4.2, with compiz as window manager? |
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| 00:44.10 | deitarion | Is there a way to enable estimated completion time display for KDE 4 copy/download notifications? |
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| 00:47.54 | tom_ | konqueror 4.2 no longer browers with fish. it opens the location, but clicking on a folder attempts to open a new konqueror and then i get an error saying its is not supported. worked fine yesterday morn.... |
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| 00:49.32 | x_link | Hi! |
| 00:49.36 | x_link | Just forgot something |
| 00:49.50 | deitarion | Oh, and how do I figure out why certain binary plasmoids which should have installed correctly aren't appearing in the list? |
| 00:50.01 | x_link | Before when I installed a program I could go to a path and remove the dir. so that it would be resetted. |
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| 00:50.15 | x_link | Something like /usr/share/......something |
| 00:50.22 | x_link | But I don't remember the path |
| 00:51.22 | Jucato | deitarion: try "kbuildsycoca4" to update, or if that doesn't work, restart plasma with Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
| 00:51.43 | x_link | I really don't remmeber the damn path. |
| 00:51.49 | x_link | Been there alot of times before. |
| 00:52.37 | ath_ | is anyone aware of a bug, when trying to open links in kde 4.2, while the default browser is unset? |
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| 00:54.36 | deitarion | Jucato: Thanks. kbuildsycoca4 fixed it. I'd been just jumping straight to "kquitapp plasma && sleep 1 && plasma" |
| 00:54.38 | tom_ | ath_: what does the bug do? |
| 00:55.11 | ath_ | hundreds of konqueror apps tried to launch, flooding the taskbar |
| 00:55.26 | ath_ | and by the looks of it, most didn't close, so you can't open new applications without restarting X |
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| 00:55.51 | ath_ | xtrestop shows duplicate entries like this: http://dpaste.com/116756/ |
| 00:55.58 | ath_ | *xrestop |
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| 00:56.38 | ath_ | and trying to open new applications results in no launch, or error, unless launched from a terminal: Maximum number of clients reachedError: cannot open display: :0 |
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| 00:58.28 | tom_ | ath_: somethink simular was happening to me with kget. i had to kill the proccess.... hasnt happend again for a few days. what distro are you on? |
| 00:58.36 | ath_ | gentoo tom_ . |
| 00:58.38 | tom_ | is it a new install? |
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| 00:58.50 | ath_ | yes, however i know the reason it happened./ |
| 00:59.09 | tom_ | you know or you want to know? |
| 00:59.15 | ath_ | at least i'm almost sure; I set the default browser as firefox3-bin |
| 00:59.21 | ath_ | then removed it to compile my own from source |
| 00:59.31 | ath_ | and forgot to update default browser. |
| 00:59.43 | tom_ | aah i see. |
| 01:00.02 | ath_ | i'm sure there'd be sanity checking when selecting a browser, but not updates to see if it still exists. |
| 01:00.23 | tom_ | do you need to recompile, or just set the defalt to something? |
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| 01:00.40 | ath_ | set the default to something. |
| 01:00.52 | ath_ | other wise you get thousands of /usr/bin/kfmclient apps launching |
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| 01:17.04 | ath_ | well tom_, decided it'd be better to report it to kde and let them confirm whether it should be referred to the gentoo kde team: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183252 |
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| 01:19.29 | dadd | como estan |
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| 01:23.35 | root | he.. this is a conversation in real time?¿.. |
| 01:23.40 | ath_ | yes. |
| 01:23.44 | root | i begin to use linux.. |
| 01:24.12 | ath_ | create a new user, and log in as that, don't irc as root. |
| 01:24.45 | root | ok.. |
| 01:24.46 | root | thank. |
| 01:25.09 | Jucato | or better yet, go to your linux distribution's chat channel for a better introduction to Linxu |
| 01:26.13 | root | so.. i am in the universiy.. and learn linux.. but one friend show m that.. |
| 01:26.24 | root | and we dont know if that was real.. |
| 01:26.29 | root | i come from of colombia.. |
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| 01:26.42 | root | some body speak sopanish?¿ |
| 01:26.56 | skraelings | root: si |
| 01:27.13 | dadd | hola |
| 01:27.36 | dadd | como estan todos soy algo nuevo |
| 01:28.13 | caol | hey thanks.. |
| 01:28.19 | Jucato | #kde-es |
| 01:28.21 | dadd | hi |
| 01:28.31 | caol | hi dadd.. |
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| 01:28.45 | dadd | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.55 | Jucato | and you are clones |
| 01:29.04 | caol | so.... where are u come from guys.. |
| 01:29.18 | caol | i come from colombia.. |
| 01:29.19 | caol | XD |
| 01:29.36 | Jucato | this is not a social chat channel |
| 01:30.13 | caol | :(.. sorry for that.. |
| 01:30.40 | caol | so.. i just be know that... |
| 01:30.44 | caol | have to go.. |
| 01:30.54 | caol | bye and thaks for the explain.. |
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| 01:38.34 | g-hennux | hi |
| 01:38.40 | g-hennux | kmail eats my mails :-((( |
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| 01:39.00 | g-hennux | this is a dimap account and every time i sync to imap, almost all mails get deleted |
| 01:39.54 | g-hennux | i copy them back, re-sync, they disappear |
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| 01:48.37 | ath_ | is there a way to stop applications such as dolphin, and konsole, starting in fullscreen mode while using compiz as the WM? |
| 01:48.42 | Ratfink | does anybody know why kmail can't identify on embarqmail, even though I know my password is right? |
| 01:51.23 | Jucato | ath_: you'll have to take that up with compiz (#compiz-fusion) as that's exactly what a window manager does (control windows) |
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| 01:51.56 | ath_ | Jucato, thanks. |
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| 01:54.11 | hvgotcodes | how do i get gtk apps like open office to not look like poo with kde 4? |
| 01:54.35 | mfilipe | hi! can I use kio to mount a ftp folder for any software can use? |
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| 01:55.03 | MrRat | gtk-engines gtk-engines-qt gtk-engines-qtcurve etc... |
| 01:55.15 | MrRat | hvgotcodes: ^ |
| 01:55.15 | hvgotcodes | MrRat: do i have to install those? |
| 01:55.26 | Jucato | or ask your distro for oo.o-kde4 integration packages |
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| 01:55.35 | hvgotcodes | Jucato: this is ubuntu |
| 01:55.45 | Jucato | so ask in #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 01:55.46 | MrRat | hvgotcodes: specifically gtk-engines-qt should install the kcmgtk4 module |
| 01:56.14 | ath_ | Jucato, according to #compiz-fusion, it's not a compiz problem. |
| 01:56.16 | hvgotcodes | MrRat: searching now. was there a release today, incidentally? i noticed a lot of kde updates... |
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| 01:56.47 | Jucato | ath_: I wonder why not. KDE apps themselves do not set a window size. that's all managed by the window manager being used |
| 01:56.56 | ath_ | that's what i thought |
| 01:56.57 | MrRat | hvgotcodes: which can be accessed via kcmshell4 kcmgtk4 or system settings/appearance/gtk styles & fonts |
| 01:57.27 | hvgotcodes | MrRat: I tried the gtk panel of the systems settings, but they still look like butt |
| 01:57.52 | hvgotcodes | i see a gtk-qt-engine package |
| 01:58.25 | MrRat | hvgotcodes: ok, the name is distro specific, but that sounds reasonable :p |
| 01:58.55 | MrRat | hvgotcodes: i like the qtcurve packages myself |
| 01:59.16 | MrRat | but you need the kcmgtk4 module anyway |
| 01:59.19 | Jucato | hvgotcodes: make sure it's for Qt/KDE 4 (there might be a Qt/KDE 3 version) |
| 01:59.45 | hvgotcodes | Jucato: ya its for kde4 |
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| 01:59.58 | hvgotcodes | i am trying to figure out what the qtcurve package does |
| 02:00.08 | Ratfink | does anybody know why kmail can't identify on embarqmail, even though I know my password is right? |
| 02:01.07 | hvgotcodes | hmm present was broken with my update today :( |
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| 02:02.30 | hvgotcodes | ok lets see if that makes gtk look better...brb |
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| 02:05.19 | Ratfink | does anybody know why kmail can't identify on embarqmail, even though I know my password is right? |
| 02:05.29 | Ratfink | please help, I don't have a clue what could be wrong |
| 02:06.22 | ath_ | Jucato, they say that unless the app has to tell compiz what size to open it at, aka with profiles. |
| 02:06.30 | ath_ | -unless |
| 02:07.05 | Jucato | dolphin doesn't have profiles.not sure about konsole |
| 02:07.17 | ath_ | konqueror does, and it sovled it with konqueror |
| 02:07.24 | ath_ | konsole doesn't appear to, and nor dolphin |
| 02:07.32 | ath_ | i couldn't find a 'fullscreen' function in dolphin either |
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| 02:16.42 | hvgotcodes | MrRat: i tried that package but gtk apps are unchanged |
| 02:17.05 | hvgotcodes | i did see a new gtk panel in the system settings but it doesn't appear to do anything |
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| 02:28.27 | Ghabit | Hello. Which is 'native' sip client for kde4? |
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| 02:51.25 | _CitizenKane_ | I installed from KDE 4.2 packages (opensuse), plasma is causing a lot of CPU utilization and causing X to really hit the CPU. Anyone else experienced this? |
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| 02:57.19 | Rehto | _CitizenKane_: I get about 5-10 % cpu utilization with athlon 64 x2 5000+ |
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| 02:57.44 | _CitizenKane_ | Rehto: Between plasma and X it was at 100% |
| 02:57.54 | Rehto | well that's troublesome |
| 02:58.22 | _CitizenKane_ | Rehto: seems to be some plasmoid, I went on a crusade and that seems to have fixed it |
| 02:58.30 | Rehto | ok |
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| 03:16.20 | blueillusion | is there a way to hide the file extension in dolphin? |
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| 03:27.32 | corigo3 | In 4.2 is there a standard hot key, or way to set a hot key to reduce all open windows and show the desktop? The 4.1 widget I used to use doesn't work in 4.2 |
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| 03:33.54 | skraelings | corigo3: try Ctrl-Alt-d |
| 03:35.06 | corigo3 | skraelings: nope |
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| 03:45.41 | skraelings | corigo3: there is 'show dashboard' , ctrl+F12 |
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| 03:49.34 | skraelings | corigo3: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163349 |
| 03:52.23 | corigo3 | What about resizing a Desktop folder widget? |
| 03:53.45 | corigo3 | got it |
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| 03:57.08 | Simkin | autounmask =kde-base/kde-meta-4.2.0 |
| 03:57.10 | Simkin | OH YAH |
| 03:57.13 | Simkin | going kde 4.2.0 at home! |
| 03:57.42 | Simkin | has anyone been using kde 4.2.0 with compiz-fusion? |
| 03:57.50 | Simkin | i don't know if i want to give up my compiz stuff just yet... |
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| 04:08.32 | malv | does the share feature work in kde 4.2 |
| 04:08.41 | malv | i click the button and magically nothing happens |
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| 04:18.37 | Gun_Smoke | possible to configue dolphin/ark/ whatever allowing right click of archive and extract here? |
| 04:18.46 | Gun_Smoke | kde 4.1 dolphin 1.1 |
| 04:19.12 | Gun_Smoke | ark 2.10.999 |
| 04:19.45 | Jucato | Gun_Smoke: in KDE 4.2, yes |
| 04:19.55 | Gun_Smoke | crap. |
| 04:20.47 | Gun_Smoke | This is going to be increadibly annoying.. I need that ~ 10x per day.. |
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| 04:53.16 | kristjans | Hey, I am printing PDF worksheets using Okular. I was wondering if I can specify certain pages to be printed... More specifically, I need to first print all odd and then all even pages, that way I can print on both sides |
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| 04:56.37 | Gun_Smoke | kristjans: huh.. I was just looking over that myself.. |
| 04:57.08 | Gun_Smoke | I suppose you could manually enter 1,3,5,7 etc.. |
| 04:57.28 | Gun_Smoke | that's a bit time consuming for couple dozen though |
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| 04:58.04 | kristjans | where do i do that? i can only see two options - print all, and pages from X to Y :P |
| 05:00.30 | kristjans | what version of kde do you have, gun_smoke? i run 4.2, maybe it's a removed feature heh |
| 05:00.51 | Gun_Smoke | kristjans: 4.1.3 |
| 05:01.11 | kristjans | hmm, i swear it wasn't there in 4.1 either :X |
| 05:01.30 | kristjans | so no hidden feature? |
| 05:02.42 | Gun_Smoke | crap.. well I just looked again and I have the same as you.. |
| 05:02.50 | Gun_Smoke | pages x to y |
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| 05:08.51 | kristjans | :P |
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| 05:17.39 | Paddy_EIRE | Are transition effects planned for the screensaver > slideshow.. or possibly a screensaver slideshow desktop effect plugin for kwin? |
| 05:17.44 | Paddy_EIRE | *Is |
| 05:17.54 | Paddy_EIRE | gah |
| 05:17.55 | Paddy_EIRE | *Is there |
| 05:17.57 | Paddy_EIRE | :P |
| 05:18.23 | Paddy_EIRE | transitions would be nice |
| 05:18.43 | Ringtailed-Fox | are there any plans to make kdetv digital-compatible? |
| 05:19.15 | Paddy_EIRE | Ringtailed-Fox: that sounds like a natural evolution wouldn't you say |
| 05:19.29 | Paddy_EIRE | tis inevitable |
| 05:19.34 | Gun_Smoke | kristjans: I just installed Adobe reader and it works great |
| 05:19.42 | Gun_Smoke | allows printing how you'd like |
| 05:19.43 | Paddy_EIRE | pffft |
| 05:19.54 | Paddy_EIRE | who wants to run adobe reader on linux O_o |
| 05:19.57 | Paddy_EIRE | :/ |
| 05:20.41 | Paddy_EIRE | kinda like iceskating uphill just because you can |
| 05:20.44 | Gun_Smoke | well Paddy_EIRE, show us how to print odd numberd pagers with okular |
| 05:21.05 | Paddy_EIRE | who said anything about okular anyhow |
| 05:21.20 | Ringtailed-Fox | yeah |
| 05:21.24 | Paddy_EIRE | use konqueror |
| 05:21.28 | Paddy_EIRE | :P |
| 05:21.49 | Paddy_EIRE | silly installing adobe reader.. |
| 05:22.09 | Paddy_EIRE | I wish they spent more time porting flash properly |
| 05:22.20 | Paddy_EIRE | or killed it altogether :P |
| 05:24.40 | Gun_Smoke | konqueror has the same printing options as okular and it doesn't include printing odd or even |
| 05:24.45 | Paddy_EIRE | Gun_Smoke: although I understand your meaning.. having a familiar app at your side |
| 05:25.01 | Paddy_EIRE | Gun_Smoke: do you come from a windows or apple background |
| 05:25.08 | Paddy_EIRE | is not trolling |
| 05:25.09 | Paddy_EIRE | :P |
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| 05:25.31 | Gun_Smoke | Neither really.. Linux for over 5 years.. before that I didn't really do much with them |
| 05:25.35 | Paddy_EIRE | Gun_Smoke: it does here O_o |
| 05:25.42 | Paddy_EIRE | sec |
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| 05:32.19 | Paddy_EIRE | Gun_Smoke: hmm, well spotted, I think I may have used evince as it is still installed but I know OOo has the ability to open pdfs.. so you could use the same print options OOo gives you |
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| 05:32.43 | Paddy_EIRE | or even use gimp |
| 05:32.45 | Paddy_EIRE | :P |
| 05:32.49 | Paddy_EIRE | that does too |
| 05:33.05 | Paddy_EIRE | not sure about xpdf though |
| 05:33.20 | Gun_Smoke | yea.. that's an option.. OOo |
| 05:33.42 | Paddy_EIRE | Gun_Smoke: you could also try messing with the printer profiles |
| 05:34.00 | Paddy_EIRE | which would actually in practice be quite handy on kde |
| 05:34.13 | Paddy_EIRE | there is an applet for it too |
| 05:35.00 | Paddy_EIRE | one profile prints whichever way you set call that "Odds" and then set up your "evens" etc.. |
| 05:35.16 | Paddy_EIRE | you would only have to do that once and it would be extremely useful |
| 05:35.23 | Paddy_EIRE | If you are following me |
| 05:35.29 | Paddy_EIRE | :) |
| 05:36.09 | Gun_Smoke | OOo isn't liking my pdf... |
| 05:36.14 | Paddy_EIRE | :( |
| 05:36.19 | Paddy_EIRE | in what way? |
| 05:36.31 | kristjans | soz, did you find any solution gun_smoke? i'm not sure how to scroll up with irssi |
| 05:36.31 | Gun_Smoke | wrong character set or some crap.. |
| 05:36.32 | Paddy_EIRE | and which version of OOo you on? |
| 05:36.40 | Gun_Smoke | ha. |
| 05:36.49 | Gun_Smoke | kristjans: we are talking about that now.. |
| 05:37.10 | Gun_Smoke | kristjans: I installed Acrobat and that works.. |
| 05:37.23 | Paddy_EIRE | well at least it works |
| 05:37.26 | Gun_Smoke | kristjans: Paddy suggested OOo |
| 05:37.27 | Paddy_EIRE | fit for purpose |
| 05:37.57 | kristjans | ok:-) |
| 05:37.59 | Gun_Smoke | But I can't get it to open the two pdf's I tried.. and then there is gimp but that seems a bit over the top |
| 05:38.01 | Paddy_EIRE | although I think settings up print profiles would be the best desktop centric way to go |
| 05:38.30 | Paddy_EIRE | let me see how one would do that |
| 05:38.42 | Paddy_EIRE | I will document any handy steps |
| 05:38.49 | Paddy_EIRE | brb |
| 05:38.55 | kristjans | openoffice shows scrabble, heh |
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| 05:40.05 | Gun_Smoke | same here |
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| 05:40.40 | Paddy_EIRE | I have some fancy plugins in my OOo though and its OOo3.1 here |
| 05:40.46 | Paddy_EIRE | so... |
| 05:40.51 | kristjans | and i don't think acro reader is in my distro's repos, so it would be an hassle to install |
| 05:41.11 | Paddy_EIRE | and apparently pdf support is standard with 3.1 |
| 05:41.54 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: which distro you using? |
| 05:42.03 | kristjans | arch linux |
| 05:42.09 | Paddy_EIRE | cool |
| 05:42.09 | kristjans | my openoffice is 3.0.1 :p |
| 05:42.10 | Paddy_EIRE | nice |
| 05:42.22 | Paddy_EIRE | hmm |
| 05:42.24 | Paddy_EIRE | :P |
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| 05:43.07 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: yeah you're right its 3.0.1 |
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| 05:44.50 | kristjans | hmm i will just print the pages out one by one |
| 05:45.09 | kristjans | we have a notebook check in calculus, and i didn't know that the teacher was going to check our notes |
| 05:45.24 | kristjans | so i wrote my notes in estonian instead of english, i'm afraid the teacher won't understand a word xD |
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| 05:48.36 | Gun_Smoke | that will be great if accepted.. then you'll be off the hook forever on your notes. |
| 05:49.30 | Paddy_EIRE | hahahaha |
| 05:49.32 | Paddy_EIRE | found |
| 05:49.33 | Paddy_EIRE | it |
| 05:49.36 | Paddy_EIRE | sorry |
| 05:50.04 | Paddy_EIRE | okular and konqueror both have very sexy print options for pages |
| 05:50.28 | Paddy_EIRE | go to print while you have a multipage pdf opened |
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| 05:52.47 | kristjans | ok and then what? :P |
| 05:53.41 | Paddy_EIRE | click options |
| 05:53.43 | Paddy_EIRE | :P |
| 05:54.12 | Paddy_EIRE | I was taking screenshots to point out how obvious it is.. hence the milked instruction |
| 05:54.20 | Paddy_EIRE | :) |
| 05:54.34 | kristjans | ok and there it has range... print all and print pages from x to y... |
| 05:54.48 | kristjans | how do i make it skip every second page? :P |
| 05:54.51 | Paddy_EIRE | yeah and collate reverse |
| 05:55.00 | Paddy_EIRE | sec |
| 05:55.06 | kristjans | i have no clue what they mean :p |
| 05:55.13 | Paddy_EIRE | lol |
| 05:55.14 | Paddy_EIRE | sec |
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| 05:56.12 | Paddy_EIRE | I am a little sluggish and tired at the moment.. normally this is a snap |
| 05:56.22 | Paddy_EIRE | bare with me |
| 05:57.12 | kristjans | i will :p |
| 05:57.27 | kristjans | even though its 10 pm and i have to wake up at 5 am heh |
| 05:57.34 | Paddy_EIRE | lol |
| 05:57.37 | Paddy_EIRE | D: |
| 05:57.41 | Paddy_EIRE | oh dear |
| 05:58.00 | Paddy_EIRE | well go with adobe for now until I get this sussed |
| 05:58.55 | kristjans | lol |
| 05:59.10 | Paddy_EIRE | get a nights sleep :) |
| 05:59.38 | kristjans | when i came home from college i slept for a couple of hours, so no big deal :D |
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| 05:59.56 | Paddy_EIRE | I have been up all night |
| 06:00.09 | kristjans | i could easily push one also |
| 06:00.15 | Paddy_EIRE | its 06:00 just past |
| 06:00.45 | kristjans | maybe get an hour sleep before college though, very refreshing |
| 06:00.52 | Paddy_EIRE | yeah |
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| 06:05.55 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: ah.. the HPLIP service allows me to do it |
| 06:06.11 | Paddy_EIRE | without anything even needing to view the document |
| 06:06.58 | kristjans | ah, i have a samsung laser printer :/ |
| 06:07.21 | Paddy_EIRE | hmm.. perhaps you may already have the option |
| 06:07.31 | Paddy_EIRE | sec |
| 06:07.34 | Paddy_EIRE | whats the model |
| 06:07.41 | kristjans | ML-2510 |
| 06:09.25 | kristjans | it doesn't have duplex printing, if that's what you mean |
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| 06:11.44 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: http://imagebin.ca/img/H5LWrjX.png |
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| 06:13.09 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: that is simple to access too.. pitty.. there must be an alternative for you |
| 06:13.29 | Paddy_EIRE | this is all standard stuff.. best to not depend on adobe |
| 06:13.36 | Paddy_EIRE | :) |
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| 06:20.52 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: super http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621&highlight=ML-2510 |
| 06:20.58 | Paddy_EIRE | sounds great too |
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| 06:21.54 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: oh wait |
| 06:23.14 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: what do you use as a printer manager? |
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| 06:46.41 | kristjans | sry, was afk :p |
| 06:47.01 | kristjans | printer manager? |
| 06:47.17 | kristjans | it was in my repos i think |
| 06:48.02 | kristjans | splix 1.1.1.2, cups |
| 06:50.30 | kristjans | paddy_eire <-- to get your attention, if you have some kind of notification on |
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| 06:56.00 | new | g |
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| 07:02.00 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: ah cool |
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| 07:03.58 | Paddy_EIRE | kristjans: from what I have been reading the option is to be added to okular |
| 07:04.39 | Paddy_EIRE | odd omission but meh.. these things happen |
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| 07:17.41 | kristjans | ok |
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| 07:23.19 | jaem | is there any way to script the printing of a calendar from KOrganizer (in KDE 4.2)? I'd like to have it spit out each day into a PDF, fire the PDFs through a formatting script, and then print it off, every week |
| 07:23.35 | jaem | (automagically, that is) |
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| 07:36.56 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 07:53.53 | damentz | hey guys |
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| 07:53.57 | damentz | how do you use bluetooth in kde4? |
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| 07:57.51 | codestr0m | good morning |
| 07:58.03 | codestr0m | any devs going to FOSDEM? |
| 07:58.11 | codestr0m | that will be at the booth here |
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| 08:01.04 | thiago_home | damentz: support missing. Use KDE3's support. |
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| 08:08.29 | damentz | thiago_home, ok, just did |
| 08:08.34 | damentz | i can't find bluetooth devices |
| 08:08.41 | damentz | but they can contact my system and i can download what is sent to them |
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| 08:17.56 | thomas | on 4.2 w/ nvidia, when switching between logins, sometimess one input device won't work |
| 08:18.12 | thomas | a few times it's happened to me, and it was the mouse |
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| 08:18.38 | thomas | now it just happened to my wife's login and it was the keyboard |
| 08:19.15 | thomas | is there some way to "kick it" to get it to reset the keyboard/mouse |
| 08:19.58 | thomas | ...or more to the point, in this case how to it get my wife's login to cleanly exit from a terminal |
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| 08:21.34 | thomas | I've run a 'ps aux | grep peebee' and have been 'sudo kill -15 n' for things that look like it... |
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| 08:24.16 | kc1n | In kdesvn when i checkout a repository then i get the error 'Unable to open an ra_local session to URL" |
| 08:24.21 | kc1n | any way to fix this ? |
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| 08:24.34 | kc1n | using kde 4.1 |
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| 08:33.00 | ework | is anyone else having major redrawing issues with 4.2 and the latest nvidia drivers (Kwin on) |
| 08:33.08 | ework | well |
| 08:33.20 | ework | I guess not on but desktop effects enabled |
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| 09:06.58 | hariesh_ | hi |
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| 09:30.53 | esperegu | I just updated to kde4.2 but now my keyboard does not work anymore and it looks like the window manager is not running (nothing around the windows) |
| 09:30.57 | esperegu | any suggestions? |
| 09:31.17 | esperegu | going to try to relogin.. brb |
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| 09:32.41 | KayDeeEeJon | hi |
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| 09:38.26 | esperegu | anyone a suggestion where to look? |
| 09:39.06 | MaNI | esperegu, check your xorg log for errors maybe |
| 09:39.16 | MaNI | what distro are you on? |
| 09:39.28 | esperegu | Kubuntu |
| 09:39.55 | esperegu | I saw an error screen when I just logged in but it dissapeared by itself |
| 09:42.06 | annma | new install? new user? |
| 09:42.29 | hariesh | yes |
| 09:42.57 | annma | esperegu: new install and new user? |
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| 09:45.21 | evdvelde | hi all, i am using kde 4.2, dual screen setup. when i put my panel on the 2nd screen and shutdown, it seems to remain there even when no second screen is attached (and thus rendering it unreachable). nvidia twinview... any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 09:52.52 | xdan779 | evdvelde: kde will save the panel to what ever screen you have it on when you shut down |
| 09:53.40 | evdvelde | xdan779: i can see that... but on kde 3.5, it put the panel on my first screen if there was no second screen... seems logical but now it does not |
| 09:54.16 | evdvelde | and since i often forget to move it back, i have troubles when working without my second screen... |
| 09:54.24 | xdan779 | evdvelde: it does but not how it works with 4.x , you may have to file a bugh report |
| 09:55.00 | evdvelde | i think i shall do that.. was just wondering if there was not already a way round, thinks this annoys a lot of people :s |
| 09:55.34 | evdvelde | better dual screen support was promised for kde 4.2, but it is sad to see how they messed things up again |
| 09:56.08 | xdan779 | evdvelde: it is better to have it done correctly vs hacking around it so a bug report would be good |
| 09:56.18 | xdan779 | duel screen support is very good though |
| 09:56.31 | evdvelde | indeed, will do that |
| 09:56.51 | evdvelde | it still is a regression in comparison to kde 3.5 |
| 09:57.48 | xdan779 | it is but no way for anyone to know unless it is something missed |
| 09:58.04 | xdan779 | you may have just come across something that no one has missed yet |
| 09:59.00 | evdvelde | would seem strange... i can hardly imagine that i am the only one using the external screen as main screen whenever it is connected to my laptop |
| 10:00.33 | xdan779 | evdvelde: in all honesty I have been using duel monitor for quite sometime though I used kde3 with the traditional unix duel monitor setup not twinview |
| 10:01.17 | evdvelde | nvidia does not offer that much choice... unless you do not need 3d accel |
| 10:02.28 | xdan779 | nvidia supports both with 3d accle, though only on the 1st monitor with the traditional duel setup |
| 10:03.35 | evdvelde | indeed |
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| 10:05.37 | hariesh | what it means, while booting FC10 " PCI BIG FOUND' |
| 10:05.55 | hariesh | what it means, while booting FC10 " PCI BUG FOUND' |
| 10:06.33 | annma | ask in #fedora |
| 10:06.45 | annma | some of your devices might be buggy |
| 10:07.01 | annma | is something not working? |
| 10:07.14 | annma | and here we only ask KDE question hariesh |
| 10:07.26 | hariesh | no my pc is linux compatable |
| 10:07.33 | hariesh | ok |
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| 10:07.36 | hariesh | thx |
| 10:07.43 | hariesh | i got fedora |
| 10:07.53 | Jucato | hariesh: ask in #fedora |
| 10:08.02 | hariesh | ok..thx |
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| 10:08.22 | annma | it's not because your PC is linux compatibl that you cannot have problems in devices |
| 10:08.34 | annma | as an IT tech support you should know |
| 10:08.57 | hariesh | :) |
| 10:09.04 | hariesh | yes |
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| 10:44.56 | litb | hello all |
| 10:45.02 | litb | why does "alt+f2" strike sometimes? |
| 10:45.10 | litb | the run dialog doesn't popup anymore -.- |
| 10:45.27 | litb | i have to restart krunner |
| 10:48.49 | thomas | On Kubuntu 8.10 86x64, KDE 4.2 I keep getting message "The application KDE Daemon (kded4) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT)." What happened to the autocore/bug reporty emaily thingy? |
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| 10:50.15 | annma | do you get a valid backtrace? |
| 10:50.19 | annma | thomas: ^^ |
| 10:50.51 | thomas | annma: yes, I get a bug trace |
| 10:51.07 | annma | valid? |
| 10:51.20 | annma | if so pastebin it please |
| 10:51.38 | thomas | ...also, if not the message, I wouldn't know anything was wrong |
| 10:51.54 | thomas | how do I know if it's valid? |
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| 10:53.43 | thomas | annma: what pastebin service would you like? |
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| 10:57.29 | junkY_work | hey, is it possible to view open files with the smb:// protokol without copying them? |
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| 11:16.36 | looonger | do kwin4 composite effects work with an opensource ati driver? |
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| 11:18.46 | cb400f | I heard they worked fairly well on a radeon mobility 7000 with radeon driver |
| 11:19.26 | cb400f | is himself considering replacing his nvidia fx5500 with a radeon 9800 or x800 |
| 11:19.31 | looonger | i follow all instrucions and i can't run it |
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| 11:19.45 | cb400f | what driver and what card is this? |
| 11:20.25 | looonger | i tried with both xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-radeonhd |
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| 11:20.47 | looonger | i have radeon hd 3850 |
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| 11:21.44 | cb400f | radeonhd driver is a whole different ballgame than radeon.. radeonhd is new and in fairly early development |
| 11:22.04 | cb400f | radeon only supports older chips of course, so that's no help to you |
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| 11:24.44 | looonger | so the only way to enable comopiste effetcts is using the proprietary driver? |
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| 11:26.18 | looonger | composite effects* |
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| 11:32.11 | annma | thomas: pastebin.ca |
| 11:32.32 | annma | a valid bt is one where it has no "no debug symbols found" lines |
| 11:32.37 | annma | or other such warning |
| 11:33.36 | esperegu | annma: no. existing kubuntu install. just added the repositories as decribed on kubuntu site, updated and logged in again |
| 11:34.15 | annma | esperegu: try a new user then |
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| 11:36.33 | thomas | annma: okay, thanks, I'll send it in next time it happens |
| 11:36.57 | annma | so it's not so bad |
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| 11:39.11 | Nikty | hi |
| 11:39.24 | Nikty | where is control center in kde4? |
| 11:39.36 | annma | it's called System Settings |
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| 11:39.51 | annma | clicking in K menu you should see it |
| 11:41.25 | Nikty | annma: i can't see it when i use standart kmenu |
| 11:41.48 | annma | ah that was for default menu |
| 11:42.00 | annma | so do Alt-F2 and type: systemsettings |
| 11:42.23 | annma | I don't know about old standard menu |
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| 11:45.10 | Nikty | thanks |
| 11:45.48 | Scorcerer | how can i force kde4 to leave /media/* directories instead of wiping them after logout/reboot ? |
| 11:46.12 | annma | leave? |
| 11:46.16 | annma | wiping? |
| 11:46.35 | Scorcerer | hmm |
| 11:46.47 | Scorcerer | i moved everything from /mnt to /media |
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| 11:46.59 | Scorcerer | just to have everything in one place |
| 11:47.13 | Scorcerer | and, after reboot /media is empty |
| 11:47.28 | Scorcerer | so i have to recreate every directory in it |
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| 11:48.05 | thiago | Scorcerer: KDE doesn't touch them |
| 11:48.07 | thiago | that's HAL |
| 11:48.22 | thiago | /mnt is what you handle |
| 11:48.27 | thiago | /media is handled by HAL |
| 11:48.29 | thiago | don't mix them |
| 11:49.23 | Scorcerer | ok, thanks |
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| 11:57.38 | esperegu | annma: new user does not make a difference. Keyboard seems to become unfunctional when I click on the 'start/K' button |
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| 11:58.02 | cb400f | looonger: at the current time, for your particular card, it would seem so |
| 11:58.15 | esperegu | annma: In dmesg I see: [ 8903.022038] nepomukservices[22721] general protection ip:7f436bf6073e sp:7fff74551700 error:0 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[7f436bef7000+230000] |
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| 11:58.21 | esperegu | coulf that have something to do with it? |
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| 11:59.05 | eggy_ | Hello, how can I change my keyboard layout to dvorak in kde4? I do 'enable keyboard layouts', and I try to find dvorak and add it, but I cannot quite seem to find it |
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| 12:06.49 | annma | esperegu: you should ask in #kubuntu |
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| 12:27.40 | juc0 | Hi, I have just updated from 4.1 to 4.2 and kdm appears to have broken. Instead of loading into KDM it just starts an xterm, 'startx' however seems to work fine. 'startkde' however moans that $DISPLAY is not set or the xserver is not started. KDM worked fine for 3.5 and 4.1, can anyone thing why this would happen? |
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| 12:32.14 | Nikty | where is all files which were on the desktop? ( |
| 12:32.17 | Nikty | *are |
| 12:33.01 | moi_aussi | in ~/Desktop, i guess |
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| 12:33.35 | moi_aussi | configure a folderview to use that directory |
| 12:33.37 | Nikty | but i can't see then on kde's desktop |
| 12:33.47 | Nikty | mm, is it widget? |
| 12:33.55 | moi_aussi | add a folderview plasmoid |
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| 12:34.26 | moi_aussi | in my kde4 install it was already on the desktop |
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| 12:34.47 | Nikty | mm, cool |
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| 13:32.42 | BeteNoire | hi |
| 13:33.25 | BeteNoire | i have to kmail profiles which i want to merge |
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| 13:33.57 | BeteNoire | can i copy emails from older to newer and be sure i will not overwrite any email? |
| 13:34.15 | annma | older what? |
| 13:34.36 | annma | to --> two |
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| 13:34.50 | BeteNoire | in other words: are email names from folder .kde4.1/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/cur unique? |
| 13:34.54 | Nikty | may i delete .kde if i use kde4? |
| 13:35.01 | annma | are your mails unique? |
| 13:35.11 | BeteNoire | yes |
| 13:35.26 | annma | so I don't see any problem |
| 13:36.02 | annma | can't you try Import Messages? |
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| 13:37.20 | BeteNoire | how importing works when it meets same messages? |
| 13:37.33 | annma | does it? |
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| 13:38.13 | annma | did you try? what's happening if so? |
| 13:38.38 | g16 | yes i did |
| 13:39.16 | g16 | #jakarta |
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| 13:45.10 | MaNI | where do I set that the panel should only show tasks for current virtual desktop? I can't seem to find the option |
| 13:45.37 | cb400f | right click in the taskbar -> taskbar settings |
| 13:45.39 | annma | try clicking on taskbar |
| 13:45.53 | annma | it's difficult to right click on it though |
| 13:46.00 | cb400f | requires either some free space in the taskbar.. or some very, very precise right clicking |
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| 13:49.03 | BeteNoire | AnMaster: ok, i've just copied files via mc hoping i didn't miss any email |
| 13:49.17 | BeteNoire | annma: â :) |
| 13:50.21 | AnMaster | what? |
| 13:50.45 | BeteNoire | AnMaster: sorry, that was tabcompletion error |
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| 14:02.04 | Jucato | $KDEHOME/share/apps/kcookiejar/ |
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| 14:13.13 | psofa | Jucato, ty |
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| 14:33.24 | robin0800 | me https://wiki.edubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha4/Kubuntu |
| 14:33.41 | robin0800 | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha4/Kubuntu |
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| 14:39.39 | Ancho | hello....is it possible to drag an icon from one panel to an other in kde 4.1? |
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| 14:45.01 | Nikty | i have no antialising (( |
| 14:45.11 | Nikty | cyrillyc fonts ARE |
| 14:45.19 | Nikty | but not latin |
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| 14:45.24 | Nikty | what the hell :p |
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| 14:49.21 | Quintasan | my, my the links in status messages are still unclickable :D opened in 2005 :D |
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| 14:56.26 | knusperfrosch | got a toolbar that doesn't fit on into the given window, so i click on the arrow privided and a second line with icons emerges. so as i move my mouse over that line it dissapears. i guess that's a known issue |
| 14:56.36 | knusperfrosch | any work around? |
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| 14:58.29 | twobitsprite | how stable/complete is kde4.2? last I remember running 4.1 there were a lot of kinks and omissions... |
| 15:00.01 | rabauke | twobitsprite: there are livecds, try it |
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| 15:04.33 | Crypto1971 | hi @ll |
| 15:04.34 | mamr | what to do, when solid-powermanagement brightness set XX says it worked but has no effect? |
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| 15:06.23 | vfusco | Hi there! Does anyone know how to change the notification popup timeout? |
| 15:06.38 | Crypto1971 | i have a problem in kmail 1.9.9 (kde 3.5.10): when hitting the "reply"-icon in the menubar a response message is prepared. one can define auto messages in that, like "on monday 1. february 2009 crypto wrote:" - but i have not locale UK or US, i have locale de, so it should write "am montag..." etc. what can i do to set kmail to proper locale? |
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| 15:13.35 | yao_ziyuan | in kde 4.2's System Activity, |
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| 15:13.40 | yao_ziyuan | e.g. the "task manager", |
| 15:13.59 | yao_ziyuan | why isn't the first column header resizable? |
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| 15:19.47 | dr2 | hello, some problem/bug right here, im using kde4.2 on arch64. in dolphin when copy-paste, or cut-paste i observe that performance of dolphin falls on a head, anybody has same problem? |
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| 15:22.53 | mamr | I'm using the bug tracker of kde for the first time, because I want to vote for a bug, now it tells me I should enter a number of votes? Confusing. Can anybody help me? Am I able to vote more than one time? |
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| 15:23.13 | mcas | can anyone tell me where the defaultwallpaper is configured? |
| 15:23.20 | mcas | is there a global config file? |
| 15:23.45 | annma | it's a var in code |
| 15:24.08 | annma | for the default Air one |
| 15:24.19 | annma | mcas: what do you want to do exactly? |
| 15:24.42 | mcas | i want to change the default wallpaper for my system |
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| 15:24.49 | mamr | ok, read the help file |
| 15:24.59 | mcas | which help file? |
| 15:25.02 | annma | mcas: define default |
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| 15:25.27 | annma | mcas: what for? |
| 15:25.36 | annma | versus setting another one? |
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| 15:26.36 | mcas | can i set another one automatically? |
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| 15:26.57 | annma | automatically? |
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| 15:27.10 | annma | if you set a new one it'll stay |
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| 15:27.41 | mcas | yes but if i change the default there is no manual part in it ;-) |
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| 15:29.07 | annma | ti change the default you can rename your default "Air" |
| 15:29.11 | annma | to |
| 15:29.32 | annma | just overwrite the KDE one with yours |
| 15:29.37 | mcas | ok ;-) |
| 15:29.39 | mcas | thx |
| 15:31.00 | Crypto1971 | i have a problem in kmail 1.9.9 (kde 3.5.10): when hitting the "reply"-icon in the menubar a response message is prepared. one can define auto messages in that, like "on monday 1. february 2009 crypto wrote:" - but i have not locale UK or US, i have locale de, so it should write "am montag..." etc. what can i do to set kmail to proper locale? |
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| 15:32.33 | esperegu | is there a site that shows all nice add ons and features for kde 4.2? |
| 15:33.21 | annma | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/guide.php esperegu |
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| 15:35.50 | esperegu | annma: yeah. I already read that site. that made me want to install it ;-) .thx anyway |
| 15:38.02 | Ace2016_- | are there differences between font kerning in kde3 and kde4? with the same font, font style, size and dpi? |
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| 15:48.40 | eagles0513875 | omfg whose in charge of maintaining this page http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian |
| 15:49.00 | eagles0513875 | are dev packages supposed to pull any dependencies? |
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| 15:50.15 | inf1nity | anyone else gets krunner_lock crash signal 11 direct after activating ? kde 4.2 |
| 15:50.47 | eagles0513875 | any one able to get the pre req packages installed on kubuntu intrepid |
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| 15:52.51 | Ace2016_- | eagles0513875: sometimes, if you install kdelibs5-dev you get cmake installed as a dep, also for info on debian and kde look in #debian-kde |
| 15:53.20 | Ace2016_- | eagles0513875: for kubuntu i guess you could try their forums |
| 15:53.36 | eagles0513875 | Ace2016_-: im installing whats in this link http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian |
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| 15:54.16 | Nikty | may i delete .kde if i use KDE4? |
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| 15:54.41 | evdvelde | Nikty: depends... are you still using KDE 3 programs? |
| 15:54.50 | Ace2016_- | Nikty: your kde3 config is in there and some apps still have not been ported to kde4, keep it |
| 15:55.23 | Nikty | ok |
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| 15:58.34 | eagles0513875 | hey Ace2016_- i still have dependency issues |
| 15:58.45 | eagles0513875 | libsvn-dev i run apt-get build-dep and it doesnt work |
| 15:59.13 | Ace2016_- | eagles0513875: xorg-dev and qt dev files is what i'd start with, then install the rest as it complains |
| 15:59.34 | Ace2016_- | eagles0513875: what version are you compiling? not happy with the stuff in the repos? |
| 15:59.48 | eagles0513875 | well its complaining libsvn-dev |
| 15:59.58 | eagles0513875 | depending on libaprutil1-dev |
| 16:00.21 | Ace2016_- | did you just blindly run that long dependency install command? |
| 16:00.23 | tsb | In kde4.2, I have the strigideamin indexing files. How do you actually search? |
| 16:01.05 | Ace2016_- | tsb: krunner can search with nepomuk |
| 16:01.58 | eagles0513875 | Ace2016_-: to use svn im guessing i need the latest kernel for my distro |
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| 16:03.22 | tsb | Ace2016_-, okay, thanks. |
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| 16:04.25 | Ace2016_- | eagles0513875: the latest kernel? you don't need the latest kernel for kde, what version of kubuntu are you using? |
| 16:04.32 | eagles0513875 | intrepid |
| 16:04.44 | eagles0513875 | just did a reinstall after a borked upgrade to 4.2 |
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| 16:06.53 | Ace2016_- | eagles0513875: try installing again but this time use aptitude install kdesomething -R, -R gets doesn't also install the recommended dependencies, just the dependencies, might work, thats how i install in debian |
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| 16:08.13 | kibab | What does nepokmukservices do? |
| 16:08.15 | eagles0513875 | Ace2016_-: build-dep is working :) just have to remember to install pkg i downloaded the dependencies for lol |
| 16:09.42 | eagles0513875 | im back to square one :( |
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| 16:10.30 | eagles0513875 | Ace2016_-: what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get |
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| 16:10.44 | Quintasan | eagles0513875: you tried to upgrade to kde 4.2 from 4.1> |
| 16:10.46 | Quintasan | ? |
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| 16:11.54 | Jucato | eagles0513875, Ace2016_-: please take the discussion to your distro's channel |
| 16:11.54 | eagles0513875 | Quintasan: that was yesterday |
| 16:12.00 | eagles0513875 | Jucato: sry |
| 16:12.03 | kibab | nepomukservices is up to 875 Megs now :( |
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| 16:12.16 | eagles0513875 | Quintasan: it screwed up somethign on my x |
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| 16:12.27 | eagles0513875 | wouldnt load the desktop for some reason for me |
| 16:12.35 | Quintasan | eagles0513875: I had some dependencies errors, just purged all packages, updated sources and installed it |
| 16:13.06 | eagles0513875 | Quintasan: i just reinstalled and im setting up my machine to use the svn |
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| 16:13.51 | Quintasan | eagles0513875: I guess you tried: mv .kde .kde.old and start it? |
| 16:14.07 | eagles0513875 | tried that Quintasan didnt do anything |
| 16:14.28 | eagles0513875 | do u have any idea whose in charge of maintaining this page http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian |
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| 16:14.42 | eagles0513875 | reason i ask is im experienceing lots of problems with optional stuff |
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| 16:25.59 | kibab | how can I restart nepomukservices, without having to log out and log back in again? I know there's kquitapp, but would I then start nepomukserver, and is it safe? |
| 16:26.23 | annma | use the systemsettings kcm |
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| 16:27.52 | Ancho | hello....is it possible to drag an icon from one panel to an other in kde 4.1? |
| 16:28.15 | sharperguy | How do I get rid of all my kde4 settings w/o deleting .kde4? |
| 16:28.45 | annma | sharperguy: delete .kde4/share/config |
| 16:28.57 | sharperguy | annma, thanks |
| 16:30.01 | kibab | annma: I pulled up services, but I don't see anything referencing nepomuk, what should I be looking for? |
| 16:31.40 | annma | kibab: systemsettings -> advanced -> Nepomuk |
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| 16:32.03 | annma | kibab: systemsettings -> advanced -> Desktop Search more exactly |
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| 16:32.30 | kibab | annma: ahh.. |
| 16:32.44 | annma | the nepomuk icon |
| 16:32.46 | annma | ;) |
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| 16:33.14 | kibab | annma: ahh, that's what that icon is :) |
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| 16:35.48 | kibab | annma: much better... thank you! |
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| 16:36.32 | annma | :) |
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| 16:53.33 | tuxick | am i right in getting the impression kwin on kde4 is MUCH more sensitive to xorg driver issues? |
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| 16:58.48 | cb400f | tuxick: you prolly want to rephrase that to "kwin (and co.) pushes xorg drivers more than other stuff" |
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| 16:59.21 | tuxick | cb400f: it seems to lemming :) |
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| 16:59.52 | tuxick | i have no idea ow much it can check at all |
| 17:00.29 | tuxick | but it sure looks like most problems i had/have with kde4 are xorg related |
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| 17:04.43 | Nikty | is it possible to change panel color? |
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| 17:04.46 | Nikty | black sux |
| 17:04.56 | Quintasan | can anyone tell me how to add new fonts for konsole? I liked the Terminus font but I can't pick it from profile menu |
| 17:05.01 | Quintasan | Nikty: use Oxygen theme :P |
| 17:05.29 | Nikty | Quintasan: i'm using it |
| 17:05.36 | Nikty | but panel is black |
| 17:05.39 | Quintasan | And It is black? lol |
| 17:05.48 | Quintasan | When I use it my panel becomes blue :D |
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| 17:06.51 | Nikty | damn |
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| 17:09.56 | Nikty | ...and is it possible to hide panel? |
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| 17:12.18 | Captain_Haddock | Hi, I'm trying to compile the new ktorrent RC in for KDE 4.2 in Kubuntu Intrepid... I'm running into the following error: "cmake error: Could NOT find GMP (missing: GMP_INCLUDE_DIR GMP_LIBRARIES)". Any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 17:14.43 | mini-man | why is KDE suddenly copying anything I select and how do I turn it off? |
| 17:14.46 | mini-man | 4.2 here |
| 17:15.13 | tuxick | copying what/how? |
| 17:15.23 | mini-man | copying to clipboard |
| 17:15.29 | mini-man | any text I select |
| 17:15.32 | mini-man | in any KDE application |
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| 17:15.56 | mini-man | f.ex, in Kate, if I select something, copy it, then select some indentation whitespace, the whitespace overrides what I just copied. |
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| 17:16.42 | tuxick | isn't that normal? |
| 17:16.45 | Captain_Haddock | mini-man: that's how things work in just about any Linux distro.. highlight to select |
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| 17:17.06 | mini-man | Captain_Haddock: lol, it never happened until now for me |
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| 17:17.24 | mini-man | it's annoying, I copy something, then select a bunch of whitespace it left behind to delete it, then it goes away. |
| 17:17.25 | Captain_Haddock | mini-man: try checking the difference between middle-clicking and CTRL+V |
| 17:17.45 | mini-man | I know, but I'm just not used to it, and it never used to happen before so I assumed there was a way to turn it off.. |
| 17:17.52 | PuffTheMagic | when i run kde on a dual screen setup and try to maximize a window, how do i get the window to stap to 1 screen only instead of maximizing to both screens? |
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| 17:18.12 | Half-Left | Captain_Haddock: Find out what GMP is |
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| 17:19.16 | Captain_Haddock | Half-Left: There's one called GMP (Multiprecision arithmetic library) |
| 17:19.26 | Captain_Haddock | but I'm not sure if that's it.. so it's not a standard requirement? |
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| 17:20.27 | Half-Left | Captain_Haddock: Not sure, maybe look at the readme |
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| 17:22.29 | name | hi |
| 17:22.49 | name | can i somehow tell kdiff3 that if all the changes could be auto resolved to not open up a window? |
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| 17:25.46 | g_ | whoa wtf |
| 17:25.59 | estan | oopsi. |
| 17:26.04 | g_ | can anyone tell me why I can't delete any files off of my SD flash card? |
| 17:26.12 | g_ | I'm using kde 4.2 |
| 17:26.13 | name | mounted read-only? |
| 17:26.34 | g_ | how do I change how its mounted? |
| 17:27.10 | g_ | in permissions its says I can modify things |
| 17:27.22 | Captain_Haddock | Half-Left: no luck in the source docs... I only see requirements like CMakeLists.txt:4:find_package(GMP REQUIRED) |
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| 17:28.25 | Half-Left | Captain_Haddock: http://gmplib.org/ |
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| 17:30.49 | mini-man | btw. turning off 'ignore select' in klipper solved it |
| 17:31.00 | PuffTheMagic | how do i get kde4.2 to snap to 1 display instead of 2 when using an extended desktop/xinerama?????? |
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| 17:33.17 | Nikty | HOW can i hode panel?? |
| 17:33.22 | Captain_Haddock | Half-Left: Thanks! I already have libgmp3c2 installed.. do I need the source or something for compilation |
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| 17:34.49 | hubar | hmm question, has anyone managed to get konq (4.2) to play nice with gmail? |
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| 17:56.22 | psofa | anyone knows why it takes ages to logout from kde 4.2? |
| 17:56.44 | psofa | i tried with a clean .kde4 and it logged out much faster |
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| 17:57.33 | psofa | i changed the session settings to boot emty session and disabled strigi then started logging out slow |
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| 17:57.47 | psofa | i reverted those changes and it didnt fix it |
| 17:58.24 | sharperguy | Is it possible to set the ctrl+arrowkey buttons to change desktop? |
| 17:58.43 | psofa | brb |
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| 18:03.37 | Ace2016_- | sharperguy: yes |
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| 18:04.03 | sharperguy | Ace2016_-, because I'm having trouble finding the right config area |
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| 18:04.32 | Ace2016_- | sharperguy: in system settings > keyboard and mouse > Global keyboard shortcuts. pick kwin from the dropdown and set the commands as neccessary, but ctrl left+right will mess with some applications like inkscape |
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| 18:05.17 | sharperguy | Ace2016_-, yeah I meant ctrl+alt+arrow |
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| 18:05.49 | Ace2016_- | i prefer to use the win key |
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| 18:06.30 | sharperguy | It's probably easier tbh but I'm used to this anyway |
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| 18:11.07 | mick_laptop | just wanted to say that the lastest kde is really nice :) |
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| 18:11.52 | n_np | any kde coders wanne make an uberleet installer without gayness for a brand new great brilliant linux distribution? |
| 18:12.32 | n_np | its kde centric |
| 18:12.42 | mick_laptop | if only people would stop making their own distros - the world woukd be a better place |
| 18:12.59 | mick_laptop | same goes for editors, calculators, cmses and crms |
| 18:13.00 | n_np | i disagree |
| 18:13.19 | n_np | because there are too many gay distros that its hard to choose one |
| 18:13.22 | n_np | thats why we have precisionix |
| 18:13.43 | mick_laptop | the first homophobic distro? |
| 18:13.54 | mick_laptop | :) |
| 18:13.57 | n_np | lol |
| 18:13.58 | n_np | :p |
| 18:14.11 | n_np | yeah man, we don't even have an installer |
| 18:14.14 | n_np | you gotto do that shit by hand |
| 18:14.16 | n_np | :p |
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| 18:14.23 | n_np | a man's distro |
| 18:14.25 | n_np | for the real man |
| 18:14.27 | mick_laptop | that is called slackware |
| 18:14.39 | n_np | what? slackware is easy in comaprison to setting up this thing |
| 18:14.40 | n_np | omgod |
| 18:14.47 | n_np | i couldn't even get it to load :s |
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| 18:15.05 | Half-Left | thiago: Does Qt4.5 break anything for 4.2? |
| 18:15.34 | pusling | Half-Left: it breaks kdm for some peoples |
| 18:15.35 | n_np | is the new koffice done yet> |
| 18:16.59 | Half-Left | koffice2 is still in beta, beta5 |
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| 18:18.18 | thomas | Isn't there a way to use the real disk? |
| 18:18.29 | Half-Left | pusling: I guess 4.2.x wont fix any Qt4.5 breakage, or is it deeper? |
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| 18:25.13 | Delta-12 | hi there |
| 18:26.01 | Delta-12 | can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/d12fc8a96 |
| 18:26.01 | Delta-12 | I've made an update of qt-copy and it won't compile |
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| 18:29.48 | Dumble | is KDM/Qt4.5 crashing bug solved ? |
| 18:30.19 | Delta-12 | dunno, but I think it isn't atm |
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| 18:31.19 | Dumble | ok |
| 18:31.22 | the_p | hello. when does strigi delete files from the index which where deleted from the hard disk? |
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| 18:35.25 | linuksamiko | hej everyone. My menu bar in marble is allmost plain. Onlything I can see is the "Help" entry and some very strange menu called "no text". Anybody heard of this befor? |
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| 18:50.33 | KayDeeEeJon | good night all cya |
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| 18:52.59 | Quintasan | Hmm, Kopete lost protocol icons, all of them: http://imagebin.ca/view/qfE3KW.html |
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| 18:55.19 | KoPC | Guys what do i have to install to play 3D games like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory on linux ? |
| 18:56.55 | Half-Left | Quintasan: I like your activity bar in the top panel |
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| 18:57.45 | Quintasan | Half-Left: thanks :P |
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| 18:58.44 | Half-Left | Quintasan: I should use it more and thats a good way |
| 18:58.58 | ihate88 | stumbled on some kde4 screenshots. nice work! looks quite charming, pretty much everything seems to have changed! will try it next week |
| 18:59.09 | Quintasan | I guess it's fault of Intrepid repositories, I dont know why there are two repositories with packages for 4.2.0 :S |
| 18:59.37 | Quintasan | Half-Left: I cant make folder view connect to password protected ftp so I use dropbox atm :P |
| 18:59.52 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 19:00.34 | Half-Left | copies Quintasan's idea |
| 19:01.09 | Quintasan | :D |
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| 19:01.48 | Quintasan | removing .kde = solution to slow working kde + missing icons :P |
| 19:02.19 | Half-Left | Strange |
| 19:03.11 | Quintasan | hmm also I cant take screenshot of WINDOW using ksnapshot, changing the option from dropdown menu didn't help :< |
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| 19:05.53 | Half-Left | Works fine here, maybe you have distro bugs :p |
| 19:07.24 | stdin | ksnapshot (all modes) works fine in Kubuntu intrepid, I used it a few mins ago |
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| 19:16.34 | kendrick | hey there! my laptop seems to be suspending when i close the lid, after a few minutes. |
| 19:16.40 | kendrick | i dislike this, since it drops my network connections |
| 19:16.57 | annma | KDE version? |
| 19:16.59 | kendrick | but... Guidance Power Manager still shows "lock screen" as the chosen setting |
| 19:17.01 | kendrick | 4.2 |
| 19:17.12 | annma | use Power Devil |
| 19:17.17 | kendrick | ubuntu 8.10 is pushing some new kde updates right now |
| 19:17.19 | kendrick | annma: how? |
| 19:17.23 | annma | for the Guidance stuff ask in #kubuntu |
| 19:17.26 | kendrick | i'm just using what it gave me :) |
| 19:17.27 | kendrick | ah |
| 19:17.30 | annma | in SYstem Settings |
| 19:17.31 | kendrick | didn't realize |
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| 19:18.28 | kendrick | hrm |
| 19:18.38 | kendrick | theree's a "Let PowerDevil manage screen powersaving" option checked already |
| 19:19.15 | annma | so tweak the Power Devil profiles |
| 19:19.39 | kendrick | i think i found them, under "Edit Profiles" |
| 19:19.56 | kendrick | Agreessive Powersave and Powersave both have "Suspend to Ram" set as the laptop-lid-closed action |
| 19:20.03 | annma | SystemSettings -> Advanced -> Power Management |
| 19:21.32 | Ace2016_- | Anyone know a quick way to get something in the taskbar asking for attention? i need to see if the plasma theme's attention taskbar thing looks good |
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| 19:22.32 | Ace2016_- | Is it possible to have an uncloseable window in the taskbar? |
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| 19:23.14 | kendrick | uh |
| 19:23.18 | kendrick | i can't click things now |
| 19:23.53 | kendrick | correction: i can click "General Settings", "Edit Profiles" and "Capbilities" in the Power Management window, but nothing else i click, ANYWHERE, seems to register |
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| 19:24.07 | kendrick | i.e., i had to hit Alt+Tab to switch back to konversation, since clicking it in the taskbar did nothing |
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| 19:24.23 | Ace2016_- | plasma froze |
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| 19:24.46 | Ace2016_- | i think you need to restart it, kquitapp plasma & sleep 2 && plasma |
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| 19:24.53 | kendrick | would that prevent me from clicking tabs inside konversation, even? |
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| 19:25.15 | Ace2016_- | do they draw and update ok? |
| 19:25.24 | Ace2016_- | could be a kwin focus issue |
| 19:25.28 | kendrick | this is bizarre. i can click the text in the irc channel window, and it highlights. but i cannot click the scrollbar, or click back into the text entry field |
| 19:25.30 | kibab | Anybody know if I'd bother kmail too much if I rsynced a specific directory (and it's subdirs) so it pulled from a different machine? |
| 19:25.31 | Ace2016_- | i had it once |
| 19:25.35 | kendrick | i have to hit [Tab] a bunch of times |
| 19:25.47 | Ace2016_- | but i set focus stealing prevention to none |
| 19:25.50 | kendrick | yeah, lemme see if i can force kwin to restart |
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| 19:26.10 | jotik | Hi |
| 19:26.17 | kendrick | huh weird, no |
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| 19:26.32 | Ace2016_- | jotik: hi |
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| 19:26.45 | kendrick | ok well. moot anyway. |
| 19:26.56 | kendrick | kde updates just finished installing, i guess i'll just restart X |
| 19:27.05 | jotik | anybody know how can I add more "displays" to the system guard kicker applet on kde 3.5.10? |
| 19:27.15 | Ace2016_- | kendrick: i think you have to reboot |
| 19:27.32 | kendrick | Ace2016_-: i DID have an interesting problem when i opened my laptop this morning |
| 19:27.38 | kendrick | it had suspended (which i didn't want it to) last night. |
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| 19:27.57 | Ace2016_- | i mean reboot after installing updates |
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| 19:28.14 | Half-Left | You DONT need to reboot after updating KDE |
| 19:28.15 | kendrick | when i went to unlock the screen, hitting a key didn't do anything. i touched my trackpad and the unlock dialog appeared. but, i could njot type into it. |
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| 19:28.27 | kendrick | Half-Left: actually, i _DID_ after upgrading from 4.1 to 4.2 :) |
| 19:28.44 | Half-Left | You shouldn't need to, it's not Windows or OS X |
| 19:28.46 | kendrick | all hell broke loose, and i was unable to use my desktop. a reboot cleared that up, somehow :( |
| 19:28.59 | kendrick | even after wiping out my ~/.kde :( |
| 19:29.12 | zooko | Folks: I'm running a non-KDE window manager (xmonad), and I want to launch the kwalletmanager gui so I can reset my password. |
| 19:29.15 | Half-Left | Restart of X is enough |
| 19:29.23 | zooko | Running "kwalletmanager" on the command-line yields no effect and an exit code of 0. |
| 19:29.38 | Captain_Haddock | Just curious, why is it not good to delete ~/.kde? (/me points to topic) |
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| 19:29.46 | Ace2016_- | Half-Left: what about the stuff left in /tmp? |
| 19:30.04 | kendrick | Ace2016_-: oh hey, maybe that was it...? |
| 19:30.10 | Half-Left | Unlike Windows and OS X, KDE doesn't hook itself into the OS to the point you need to reboot |
| 19:30.14 | kendrick | i actually logged out and stopped KDM during the upgrade. (did it via aptitude) |
| 19:30.35 | kendrick | so i was _shocked_ that it had problems when i tried to log back in. in the middle of a work day. :) doh |
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| 19:31.26 | zooko | I guess I'll open a bug report. |
| 19:31.41 | kendrick | anyway, so today... could not type into unlock window, but i could switch to my VTs |
| 19:31.50 | Ace2016_- | zooko: does kwallet work? is it enabled in system settings/ |
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| 19:31.59 | Half-Left | Ace2016_-: Depends but it shouldn't really need a reboot unless somethign is screwed :p |
| 19:32.03 | kendrick | so i switched back to X (VT7) and... Ctrl+Alt+Bksp did NOT kill X...! |
| 19:32.15 | kendrick | so i switched back to VT1 and did a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart and all was well |
| 19:32.18 | kendrick | well... except now :) |
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| 19:32.39 | Half-Left | But it's up to you, your choice |
| 19:32.39 | Ace2016_- | i think its to do with focus stealing |
| 19:33.00 | zooko | Ace2016_-: How do I check system settings? |
| 19:33.02 | kendrick | well, restart X time anyway |
| 19:33.07 | kendrick | to see what new updates came thru |
| 19:33.08 | kendrick | cya |
| 19:33.39 | Half-Left | Even a nvidia driver install doesn't need a reboot, some distros force one |
| 19:33.41 | jotik | anybody know how can I add more "displays" to the system guard kicker applet on kde 3.5.10? |
| 19:33.54 | Ace2016_- | Half-Left: what distros? mandriva? |
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| 19:33.59 | Half-Left | Ubuntu |
| 19:34.31 | Half-Left | Well, force to the fact you need to reboot to make it work |
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| 19:35.12 | Ace2016_- | i think the reboot is so that stuff in /etc/ini.d gets started fresh |
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| 19:35.43 | Half-Left | Nah, Linux is modular, you only need to restartX and load the model |
| 19:36.02 | Half-Left | module* |
| 19:36.15 | Half-Left | And X takes care of that anway |
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| 19:39.18 | zooko | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/325885 # can't figure out how to launch kwalletmanager from the command-line [edit] |
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| 19:40.00 | jotik | is KDE 3.5.10 supported? |
| 19:40.27 | annma | of course |
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| 19:41.44 | jotik | annma: any experience with the system guard kicker applet? |
| 19:42.06 | annma | not really, what's up exactly? |
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| 19:42.37 | jotik | i want to add more display's to it, showing CPU, network, memory and disk usage, but it only has 2 displays. |
| 19:44.09 | jotik | gkrellm2 has been dreading on my nerves lately and i'm considering to dump it. |
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| 20:06.52 | Crypto1971 | hi @ll |
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| 20:08.03 | tessarakt | is there a "show desktop" button in KDE 4.2? |
| 20:08.08 | tessarakt | or how can I add it? |
| 20:08.13 | Crypto1971 | i'm having some trouble with kmail 1.9.9 (kde 3.5.10). though i have set my locale to de.de kmail keeps writing english phrases like "on 5 february crypto wrote..." - so what can i do? |
| 20:08.26 | SigmaOrion | Hi there, KDE 4.1.x in Mandriva 2009 here. I can't find any help on what's that "zoom out" option in the desktop and the "add activity"... |
| 20:08.28 | annma | tessarakt: check in Add Widgets dialog |
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| 20:08.48 | tessarakt | nope |
| 20:08.49 | tessarakt | there isn't |
| 20:08.58 | SigmaOrion | sorry, KDE 4.2 I mean... |
| 20:09.26 | tessarakt | @ annma |
| 20:10.30 | Crypto1971 | so is there no way to set language/locale in kmail? if so, why is kmail ignoring my locale setting? |
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| 20:11.02 | annma | where do you set your locale? |
| 20:11.24 | annma | is kmail all in German? |
| 20:11.51 | Crypto1971 | annma: locale set in kde controlcentre. kmail is in german, yes |
| 20:13.09 | Crypto1971 | annma: i checked locale setting by entering command line "locale" |
| 20:13.12 | annma | so maybe in Settings _> Identities |
| 20:13.30 | annma | -> Modify |
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| 20:13.52 | annma | -> Templates -> Reply to sender |
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| 20:14.16 | Guest12732 | hello |
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| 20:15.00 | ninjaslim | hi guys can someone recommend cd burning software, k3b depends on kde3 components which i don't want to install |
| 20:15.09 | ninjaslim | something that'll work with kde4 |
| 20:15.14 | GraveDigger | try k3b for kde4 |
| 20:15.14 | GraveDigger | :> |
| 20:15.21 | Crypto1971 | annma: i did that, but not for a particular identity, i did for all identities as a whole. kmail replaces german words for day of the week etc. by english words. don't think it would change if i created templates for each identity |
| 20:15.22 | GraveDigger | its the non-kde3 version, you know? |
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| 20:17.00 | annma | my reply is in French while my KDE is in English |
| 20:17.25 | Crypto1971 | annma: where do you set that your reply is in french, whereas kde is in english |
| 20:17.50 | annma | I don't know, probably as my env vars were in French |
| 20:17.56 | annma | LANG and such |
| 20:18.07 | Crypto1971 | annma: have you checked that kmail correctly spells french days and does not spell english days, e.g. |
| 20:18.17 | annma | yes |
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| 20:18.33 | annma | no |
| 20:18.42 | annma | ah you are right |
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| 20:18.51 | annma | this is a bug, I thought it was fixed |
| 20:19.08 | annma | this translation business is really tricky |
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| 20:20.36 | annma | so even if you are all in German the date day is in English? |
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| 20:21.52 | Crypto1971 | annma: yes. i am just checking, if there is a different command for the placeholders in different languages. |
| 20:22.20 | annma | I htink not |
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| 20:25.32 | kostja | what does the key combination shift+tab in konsole? |
| 20:25.33 | Crypto1971 | annma: i have found something: ODATE gives german date Sonntag, 1. Februar 2009 whereas ODATEEN gives english Sunday 01 February 2009 |
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| 20:25.54 | annma | oh so you were right |
| 20:25.56 | Crypto1971 | annma: so it seems it is all there, it is a question of which placeholder is entered |
| 20:26.11 | kostja | I can't enter the editing mode in zsh |
| 20:26.13 | annma | I never knew that |
| 20:26.22 | annma | and I am a translator... |
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| 20:26.49 | Crypto1971 | annma: by selecting the "standard placeholder" which is labelled in german i got the english "keyword" ODATEEN which gave me the english date |
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| 20:27.09 | annma | Le %ODATE %OTIMELONG |
| 20:27.12 | Crypto1971 | annma: and the "real german placeholder" was not there, or i don't know which one it is. |
| 20:27.13 | annma | I have that |
| 20:27.34 | annma | Le Thursday 05 February 2009 21:21:05, |
| 20:27.51 | annma | but I am not in French in my KDE |
| 20:28.07 | Crypto1971 | annma: yes, i have these too, i guess, but i cannot select a "DATE" explicitely - i can only decide to select "Datum" (date) |
| 20:28.11 | annma | I acn't switch to French as I am rebuilding everything |
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| 20:29.13 | Crypto1971 | annma: (sorry, i meant i cannot select a "DATE", i have these "nice" descriptions like "Datum" (date)) |
| 20:29.38 | Crypto1971 | % |
| 20:29.45 | Crypto1971 | %ODATE i meant |
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| 20:31.17 | Crypto1971 | annma: so do you have an entry for each ways of writing the date? a french one and an english one? and they are both labelled with something else but not %ODATE? |
| 20:32.00 | annma | I only have DATE but as I don't have my KDE in French then it cannot check the French words |
| 20:32.09 | annma | you should ask in #kontact maybe |
| 20:32.33 | Crypto1971 | annma: okay, good hint, thx |
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| 20:33.05 | Crypto1971 | i'll check that. |
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| 20:35.24 | psofa | i have /usr/local/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-emailnotify.desktop and /usr/local/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_emailnotify.so howerver kde doesnt seem to see it.Any $PATH like variable i need to export? |
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| 20:40.29 | ubsafder | hello |
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| 20:40.42 | ubsafder | what does kmix changes ? |
| 20:40.44 | chris-rc1 | hi |
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| 20:40.53 | chris-rc1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.28 | jackpot_200111 | guys my latest update from intrepid-proposed messed up my KDE4.2.... |
| 20:41.44 | jackpot_200111 | i dont see title bar for any window |
| 20:41.59 | jackpot_200111 | and keyboard input is also not wokring |
| 20:42.13 | jackpot_200111 | any idea whats going on |
| 20:43.24 | Half-Left | JackFromShadow: #kubuntu or #ubuntu , your distro break stuff because it's in testing still |
| 20:43.35 | Half-Left | jackpot_200111: ^ |
| 20:43.46 | moi_aussi | sounds like no window manager running, jackpot_200111 |
| 20:43.54 | moi_aussi | try starting another |
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| 20:44.33 | Half-Left | Yep, try krunning win |
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| 20:45.40 | ubsafder | with kmix does it changes for gnome too ? |
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| 20:46.28 | Ketrel | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.58 | annma | no need to reboot |
| 20:47.13 | annma | kquitapp plasma and plasma will do it |
| 20:47.22 | annma | only those 2 do not keep their size? |
| 20:48.25 | annma | Ketrel: ^^ |
| 20:48.39 | Ketrel | annma: I know that's what I meant by manually (the kquitapp plasma) |
| 20:48.49 | annma | ok so only those 2? |
| 20:48.50 | Ketrel | and yes, so far, those are the only two default ones I've had issue with |
| 20:49.03 | Ketrel | (I also had it with the toggle compositing, but the author fixed that) |
| 20:49.26 | annma | so save plasma-appletsrc after kquitapp and then again after rerunning plasma |
| 20:49.29 | annma | compare the 2 |
| 20:49.42 | Ketrel | come again? |
| 20:49.55 | annma | ? |
| 20:50.05 | Ketrel | not sure what you just asked me to do lol |
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| 20:50.42 | Ketrel | what do you mean by save plasma-appletsrc |
| 20:50.57 | annma | plasma-appletsrc the config file |
| 20:51.16 | annma | save it to plasma-appletsrc.before for ex |
| 20:51.54 | moi_aussi | make a copy ;-) |
| 20:51.55 | Ketrel | I shall do that now, (and for what it's worth, when I add lancelot, it shows up small until I rezise the panel) |
| 20:52.20 | Half-Left | Yep |
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| 20:55.36 | Ketrel | hmmm, this time lancelot didn't do it |
| 20:56.14 | Half-Left | annma: Whats the python process all about in 4.2? |
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| 20:56.44 | annma | Half-Left: where? |
| 20:57.05 | Half-Left | Just shows up in the processes when 4.2 starts |
| 20:57.15 | Ketrel | I shall go through the process again for RSSNow |
| 20:57.15 | Half-Left | python plasmoid? |
| 20:57.33 | annma | I don't have pyqt so I have no python plasmoid myself |
| 20:57.45 | annma | I boycott pyqt and pykde |
| 20:59.02 | pusling | boycott ? |
| 20:59.14 | Ketrel | yeah, RSSNow does it still, I shall screenshot and copy the file |
| 20:59.14 | annma | skip, ignore |
| 20:59.24 | Half-Left | hmm |
| 21:02.36 | Ketrel | Ok, I have a series of screenshots, I'm uploading them now |
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| 21:03.58 | annma | what about the diff of the config files? |
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| 21:04.24 | Ketrel | annma: I'm gonna pastebin them in a sec |
| 21:05.09 | Ketrel | Added: http://i41.tinypic.com/whzed3.png Restarted Plasma: http://i39.tinypic.com/r75fcx.png Resized after restarting: http://i43.tinypic.com/sddanq.png |
| 21:05.19 | Ketrel | as you can see, I can't get it back to the way it looked at first |
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| 21:05.29 | jmut | hi. how can I see which is current display |
| 21:06.38 | jmut | nevermind :) used glxinfo |
| 21:08.27 | Ketrel | Added: http://pastebin.ca/1328357 Plasma Quit: http://pastebin.ca/1328358 Plasma Restarted: http://pastebin.ca/1328359 |
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| 21:11.06 | Ketrel | so, that any use in determining it? |
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| 21:17.00 | Mirrakor | Is there a page that explains why KDE 4 switched to the IEC standard (kibibytes, mibibytes, gibibytes....) ? |
| 21:17.24 | Mirrakor | I'm trying to convince my fav. distribution to use them too |
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| 21:20.02 | damnshock | hi |
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| 21:22.37 | deitarion | I think I remember hearing that the following were already planned for addition to Konqueror. (no need for a wishlist report) Can anyone confirm?: |
| 21:22.43 | alarm | hello i got some widgets that resist in closing. meaning. i got a picture frame widget on kubuntu 8.10 kde4.2 , and although i remove them , on the next log on or reboot they appear again and again |
| 21:22.51 | deitarion | 1. The Dolphin "free space" statusbar segment as an option |
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| 21:23.05 | deitarion | 2. The dirfilter plugin being ported/fixed |
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| 21:24.24 | deitarion | I ask because, as it is, I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. I'd be very happy if Dolphin were Konqueror's file view, but I'm not willing to give up working with a generic KPart container. (I like being able to use embedded viewers when I double-click files) |
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| 21:26.35 | ssj | deitarion: 1. Yes. 2. Should be already done. |
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| 21:31.00 | tuxick | anyone else experiencing *insanely* slow scrolling in konqueror-4.x? |
| 21:31.04 | deitarion | SSJ_GZ: Glad to hear it. Now I just need to file bugs on a few other things. (Stuff like "Requesting Dolphin-style single-button split/unsplit toggle for Konqueror") |
| 21:31.07 | tuxick | i can't believe i'm the only one |
| 21:31.30 | tuxick | and i mean slow, as in might was well not even try |
| 21:31.49 | deitarion | tuxick: Not that slow, but it has been sluggish in general for KDE 4 apps for me. |
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| 21:32.01 | n_np | deitarion, sounds like a display driver problem |
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| 21:32.28 | tuxick | i've been having this problem with all 4.x and all nvidia drivers |
| 21:32.32 | deitarion | n_np: GeForce 7600Gs on nVidia 180.22 binary drivers. (TwinView, 2560x1024 desktop) Any suggestions? |
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| 21:32.42 | deitarion | s/Gs/GS/ |
| 21:32.46 | tuxick | it's ok-ish on some sites |
| 21:32.47 | n_np | must be the graphics card |
| 21:32.48 | n_np | i dono |
| 21:32.49 | tuxick | others are insane |
| 21:32.53 | n_np | but it shouldn't be doing that |
| 21:32.56 | tuxick | well FF has no problem |
| 21:33.02 | n_np | it must be a kde thing |
| 21:33.02 | tuxick | 3.5.x had no problem |
| 21:33.04 | n_np | :( |
| 21:33.46 | deitarion | Yeah. It hasn't been bothering me much lately because I've been mainly tasked with things KDE 4 apps are unsuited for. (Stuff where I use Firefox or tasks using residual KDE 3.5.x apps) |
| 21:34.33 | deitarion | ...or stuff that's either GTK+ based (Deluge Torrent, Audacious Media Player, etc.) or doesn't have scrollbars. (KMplayer, for example) |
| 21:34.45 | tuxick | i'm hoping things start working again arount 4.5 |
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| 21:34.59 | deitarion | tuxick: I just keep a copy of Konqueror 3.5 in my quick launcher. |
| 21:35.15 | tuxick | heh |
| 21:35.18 | deitarion | I use it as a unified KPart harness for just about everything anyway. |
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| 21:35.22 | tuxick | well i just keep ff open |
| 21:35.28 | tuxick | for when i have to actually get stuff done |
| 21:35.44 | deitarion | I'll probably stick to Konqueror 3.5 until FileLight gets ported over. |
| 21:36.30 | deitarion | ...and KDE-PIM is out until BasKet Note Pads gets cleaned up because GPG 2.x prevents me from decrypting my encrypted baskets. |
| 21:37.24 | deitarion | Thankfully, I've been on GMail and Google Reader anyway. (I killed KDE-PIM 3.x for good when it spontaneously deleted my address book) |
| 21:38.16 | deitarion | I'm in the process of migrating out of BasKet Note Pads as I write alternative tools because I occasionally find a drag-and-drop bug which makes a note vanish but stay accessible manually as a disk file. |
| 21:38.24 | deitarion | (I'm VERY paranoid about my data) |
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| 21:41.25 | jmut | hi. can I switch displays with kde? I have vncserver running. it created display 1 When I do xeyes -display localhost:1 from display0 I can see eyes appearing on display1. But I somehow want to switch my whole view on display1. Idea is I do something and other poeple watch me...like video tutorial. |
| 21:41.43 | tuxick | tomorrow i might finally get to check on radeon |
| 21:42.18 | alarm | i got some widgets that resist in closing. meaning. i got a picture frame widget on kubuntu 8.10 kde4.2 , and although i remove them , on the next log on or reboot they appear again and again |
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| 21:46.05 | CornholioTR | hi |
| 21:46.14 | CornholioTR | can kget multithread on a single file? |
| 21:46.28 | boom1992 | CornholioTR: http/ftp yeah... |
| 21:46.38 | CornholioTR | thanks boom1992 |
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| 21:49.12 | Alumin | ok, of all the silly questions I've asked, this may be the silliest |
| 21:50.07 | Alumin | but here goes. :) I have a wallpaper rotation set up with KDE, and there are quite a few wallpapers in it...is there any way to get KDE to tell me the filename of the current wallpaper? :) |
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| 21:50.29 | beachsurfin | i...can't...get...akregator...to import my online reader! |
| 21:50.39 | beachsurfin | argh! |
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| 21:50.55 | Alumin | what format is the online reader exporting in? |
| 21:50.58 | Alumin | OPML? |
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| 21:51.27 | skraelings | I want to swap 'Clear Location Bar [C-l]' and 'Location Bar [F6]' but I doesn't work. in the shortcuts window config there isn't location bar but location. |
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| 21:52.44 | skraelings | I leave it blank Clear Location Bar and set Location to C-l and then try to set Clear Location Bar to F6 but it complains of Location Bar being using that shortcut |
| 21:54.23 | skraelings | I'm using kde 4.2 from gentoo stable tree |
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| 21:57.52 | orkiz2 | How do I get okular to print with page sizes other than a4 (using Qt-4.4.3 and kdegraphics 4.2.0)? |
| 21:58.27 | orkiz2 | Regardless of what I set for the paper size in the okular dialog, the printer always tries to print a4. |
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| 21:59.26 | orkiz2 | Seemed like bug 177360 but that is marked as fixed in 4.2 ... |
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| 22:00.35 | pinotree | orkiz2: that bug is not marked as fixed |
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| 22:01.08 | orkiz2 | pinotree: I guess it si resolved |
| 22:01.20 | orkiz2 | does that mean we need to wait until Qt 4.5? |
| 22:01.41 | pinotree | orkiz2: read better: resolved/upstream, meaning the problem is in some library used (Qt in this case) |
| 22:03.41 | orkiz2 | pinotree: Apologies. comment #21 from the bug report seemed to imply that either kde 4.2 *or* qt 4.5 would be sufficient. |
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| 22:04.02 | orkiz2 | Guess I need to wait for the qt part |
| 22:04.02 | orkiz2 | thanks for the clarification |
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| 22:26.56 | deitarion | I'm not sure how, but I accidentally switched my panels from fading in to sliding in. How do I change them back? |
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| 22:28.20 | deitarion | Well... changed from fading in to popping in now that I've turned KDE_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS back on. |
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| 22:56.58 | Ghabit | Hello. Does kopete supports jabber conferences? (kde4.2) |
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| 23:03.45 | test3 | hello all ; is there any channel related to kdetv ? |
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| 23:05.08 | test3 | well. my question was : what and where is the file that keep all channels and frequency ? config file for kdetv ..? |
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| 23:08.24 | mfilipe | hi! I want a good client for kde to network manager. does anyone know? |
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| 23:11.02 | mefistofele | nepomuk's storage service is currently taking up over 50% of my memory... what's the deal |
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| 23:16.28 | flailsafe | ok so I compiled okular svn and when i attempt to open pdf... it fails to find plugin... |
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| 23:18.37 | pinotree | flailsafe: http://okular.kde.org/faq.php |
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| 23:19.44 | flailsafe | ok ill try that stuff thanks |
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| 23:20.21 | deitarion | Is it DolphinPart's fault or Konqueror's fault that the DolphinPart toolbar's terminal button pops up a new window when used in Konqueror? |
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| 23:20.55 | deitarion | (It's a bug because the Konqueror toolbar's equivalenr button doesn't vanish while you're browsing the web) |
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| 23:21.50 | deitarion | I lay the blame there because it'd be an exceptional hack to apply the fix to the Konqueror-provided button. |
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| 23:24.05 | KC | how do I get automount working in KDE 4.2? |
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| 23:28.24 | poopix | In KDE 4.2, how can I set the taskmanager to only go to double rows once it gets full, otherwise stay single rowed? It's single rowed when there is only one program in it, but once I put another one in there then it switches to double rowed. |
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| 23:29.26 | Evan` | Hello everyone |
| 23:29.40 | Evan` | I'm using kweather for my main weather supply |
| 23:29.48 | Evan` | But my city isn't in there |
| 23:30.05 | Evan` | and the closet one is to far away to have an accurate weather output for my city |
| 23:30.11 | Evan` | Anyway I can add cities? |
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| 23:31.06 | KC | poopix: Mine acts that way, so it can be done, I have no idea how though |
| 23:31.27 | Evan` | Anyone have an idea? |
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| 23:31.42 | poopix | Hmm, thanks. I'll start looking in the options or online to try and find out. |
| 23:31.53 | Dosimal | Hi |
| 23:31.53 | KC | ahah! |
| 23:32.01 | Evan` | hi |
| 23:32.14 | KC | poopix, try unchecking 'force row settings' in the task manager settings bar |
| 23:32.15 | Evan` | KC: you wouldn't happen to know how to add cities in kweather |
| 23:32.40 | Dosimal | how does a person get the disk management utility to work in kde on Fedora 10 |
| 23:33.40 | Dosimal | I haven't used kweather sorry. |
| 23:33.41 | KC | evan: working on it |
| 23:33.59 | Evan` | cool |
| 23:34.22 | Evan` | KC: The closet damn city is like 20 miles away and it snowed there all week and we didn't see an inch of it lol |
| 23:34.34 | Evan` | I was like, FUNNY MY KWEATHER SAYS ITS SNOWING :( |
| 23:34.37 | KC | how the heck do I laaunch it |
| 23:34.41 | Evan` | kweather? |
| 23:34.47 | poopix | KC: When I do that and fill up my task manager, the programs just get smaller horizontally. They are all still in the same row. |
| 23:34.49 | Evan` | You add it to you taskbar |
| 23:35.06 | Evan` | It's an applet |
| 23:35.19 | KC | is it the one that says lcd weather station? |
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| 23:35.48 | Evan` | um |
| 23:35.50 | Evan` | Let me look |
| 23:36.04 | Evan` | No it's called "Weather Report" |
| 23:36.13 | Evan` | From what I see theres no way to add cities |
| 23:36.17 | Evan` | It looks like a set list |
| 23:36.36 | Evan` | I know that the weather from it comes from a website as a feed |
| 23:36.50 | Evan` | So there has to be some way I can update the list or add a city or something |
| 23:37.05 | Evan` | But I was wondering if theres a way to do it other then go in the source and edit it myself |
| 23:37.25 | Evan` | I've only been using linux for a few months so I don't know if I'll be capable without fubaring it |
| 23:37.39 | KC | hmm, looks pretty static |
| 23:37.45 | KC | let me check something |
| 23:38.42 | Evan` | Yeah it does :( |
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| 23:41.12 | KC | one thing you might try, find a link in a website to appropriate data for your city (like an RSS feed) and drag and drop it into the weather app |
| 23:41.22 | KC | works for the newsreader anyway |
| 23:41.54 | KC | most of the widgets seem pretty haphazard at this point though, gonna take time for devs to decide they need something better and make them |
| 23:42.12 | Evan` | Ok |
| 23:42.15 | Evan` | I'll give that a try |
| 23:42.17 | Evan` | Thanks |
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| 23:59.38 | KC | so, anybody have anny idea about the automount thing? |
