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| 00:01.29 | mardi | phorsyon: nap, moved those files over again, did a complete boot of the box and accounts and identities are still empty |
| 00:04.17 | phorsyon | mardi: sry, can't help you then. |
| 00:04.32 | mardi | phorsyon: ahh well, thanks anyhoo |
| 00:05.43 | phorsyon | bye @all |
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| 00:21.31 | sysop_____ | hi running 3.5 under debian. I am having problems getting a bluetooth headset to connect to kbluetooth. |
| 00:22.10 | sysop_____ | actually I cant get anything to connect. I have tried a bluetooth mouse and headset both doesnt work. |
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| 00:23.45 | kucrut | hey guys. just upgraded to 4.2 and it's amazing. but... how do i change the color of the kicker(what's the new name?) and how do i disable html tags in kopete? |
| 00:24.05 | sysop_____ | the headset acts likes its going to connect and asks me for a password and I enter 0000 , the bluetooth kde icon turns blue to indicate it has made a connection but it only lasts a second and then my headset goes from blinking blue to red like it lost the connection. I have tried two different bluetooth dongles and I have verfied that the headset works under windows. |
| 00:24.48 | derek_k | kucrut: use aya as theme. it follows the other color settings. other ones can't be changed |
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| 00:25.53 | sysop_____ | hi derek_k any ideas on my bluetooth issue? the bluetooth support keeps getting closer, but have not got this work with kde. |
| 00:26.05 | kucrut | derek_k: aya? where? |
| 00:26.08 | Ghabit | Help - what is default audioplayer for kde4? |
| 00:26.50 | derek_k | kucrut: right click on the background of the desktop, desktop appearance and choose the theme |
| 00:27.22 | derek_k | sysop_____: sorry. is there any bluetooth log somewhere to see what errors are occuring? |
| 00:27.54 | sysop_____ | I dont know? where should I look /var/log? |
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| 00:29.02 | kucrut | derek_k: looks like i need to install the additional themes first, thanks. what about kopete? |
| 00:30.44 | derek_k | Ghabit: system settings - advanced tab - file associations. enter mp3 or something and see what comes first |
| 00:31.01 | derek_k | kucrut: no idea, sorry |
| 00:31.26 | n_ | hi i'm looking for the matrix gl screen saver. whare can i find it? |
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| 00:31.41 | derek_k | sysop_____: likely. maybe dmesg shows something. |
| 00:32.03 | n_ | (just the simple one without comercial...) |
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| 00:33.53 | derek_k | n_: kde-look.org. search for matrix |
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| 00:36.42 | ath_ | okay.. I've grabbed kde-meta from the tree, emerge -av kde-meta:4.2, and it all appeared to have installed fine; However i have no startkde binary. |
| 00:38.00 | Jucato | ath_: you'll have to ask in #gentoo-kde since they split KDE in so many packages |
| 00:38.41 | ath_ | i am asking; i was just hoping some of the people i was talking to earlier who were using kde-meta from the tree would still be about to help. |
| 00:38.47 | n_ | ok thx |
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| 00:44.38 | Half-Left | n_: kdeartwork |
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| 00:47.31 | n_ | half-left kdeartwork? |
| 00:47.52 | Half-Left | yep, thats where all the screensavers are |
| 00:48.28 | n_ | url? |
| 00:48.52 | Half-Left | it's a kde package, why do you need the url |
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| 00:49.12 | n_ | oh its a hole package :D |
| 00:49.16 | n_ | just tell me ^^ |
| 00:49.36 | pinotree | url of what? |
| 00:50.46 | Half-Left | Lights out for me |
| 00:51.07 | n_ | ty and gn8 |
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| 00:52.18 | robbmunson | sheesh, kpackagekit-smart-icon is giving me a LOT of erros here lately. |
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| 00:54.23 | robbmunson | http://pastebin.ca/1324940 |
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| 00:58.59 | robbmunson | i am on kde 4.1.4 |
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| 01:03.08 | user_ | hey |
| 01:04.24 | n_ | hi, i want to rum my soundoutput on a different plug what can i do? |
| 01:04.49 | eladar | why would you even want to do that? |
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| 01:05.05 | n_ | there can be many reasons... |
| 01:05.08 | OhReally | is away: Gone away for now |
| 01:05.31 | eladar | only one I can think is if you need more sound outs than you have |
| 01:05.48 | eladar | In which case, I suggest getting a new soundcard with more outputs on it |
| 01:05.56 | n_ | i.e. i want to give sound to another device without unpluging it every time.. |
| 01:06.08 | n_ | i'm in a laptop ;) |
| 01:06.48 | eladar | im on a laptop myself, well, 2 laptops 2 desktops, and soundcards for laptops are available, just slightly harder to find |
| 01:07.22 | derek_k | n_: have you tried the phonon settings? system-settings - multimedia |
| 01:07.28 | n_ | if ur buget exeeds infinety then well just buy new one. |
| 01:07.36 | eladar | only other way would be to actually wire up another of your outputs (for example mic in) up to the output, which i wold strongly advise against |
| 01:07.38 | n_ | darek_k no mom i'll look |
| 01:07.41 | Jucato | OhReally: please turn off your public away messages. thanks |
| 01:08.53 | eladar | you don't need a high budget for a soundcard, but i can't see how it would let you setup an output on a different connection |
| 01:08.54 | n_ | darek_k there is no "multimedia" in my system settings. |
| 01:09.05 | eladar | n_... what OS are you using? |
| 01:09.19 | n_ | kubuntu with kde 3 |
| 01:09.32 | derek_k | n_: sorry, applies to 4 |
| 01:09.39 | cb400f | 4.2 even |
| 01:09.46 | cb400f | in 4.1 it's called "sound" iirc |
| 01:10.07 | n_ | eladar in windows is can be handeld easy? ;) |
| 01:10.35 | eladar | I doubt it |
| 01:10.38 | n_ | in "sound" i did not find a thing |
| 01:10.41 | eladar | I don't use windblows |
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| 01:11.19 | eladar | except for on my big laptop, and then i don't piss around with the setttings, it's just gt a bigger screen than the laptop i'm using right now, and is therefore better for doing stuff on GIMP |
| 01:11.40 | derek_k | n_: only applies to phonon, which you aint' running |
| 01:12.29 | n_ | derek_k sounds interesting can i jsut instal a package for "phonon" ? |
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| 01:15.33 | Eladar | i guess you could try nd find the package, might not work though |
| 01:15.54 | derek_k | n_: it's part of qt4, and used by kde4 |
| 01:16.10 | n_ | well Eladar thats no mutch of new or heling information ;) |
| 01:16.15 | derek_k | I think something like gstreamer could do it |
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| 01:17.00 | Eladar | I don't see there being software that lets you turn other ports int sund outputs |
| 01:17.08 | Eladar | into* |
| 01:17.12 | Eladar | sound* |
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| 01:17.41 | n_ | derek_k theres a hole lot of entries for gstreamer. whats needed? |
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| 01:22.20 | XxtjaxX | Hi guys i would like to use my program that i wrote as a plasma applet and would also be interested of in what u think of it so far its at http://code.google.com/p/limiter/ and i would mock it up also with a handy ascii binary hex octal etc converter anybody an idea else? |
| 01:22.57 | derek_k | n_: you'll have to read the documentation. not sure myself |
| 01:23.35 | XxtjaxX | derek_k why? |
| 01:24.07 | n_ | hmm ok :( |
| 01:25.18 | n_ | thx for now, ill be reading some pages ... :) |
| 01:25.27 | n_ | if somethign comes up just qry |
| 01:26.27 | Dhraakellian | hmm... alt+shift+F12 doesn't reenable desktop effects |
| 01:26.41 | luke-jr | I need people to test an IRC game I'm about to release. Any takers? |
| 01:27.36 | Eladar | Whats it about? |
| 01:28.20 | XxtjaxX | Hey somebody intrested in some geektools on their plasma desktop? |
| 01:29.07 | Dhraakellian | good ol' kwin --replace |
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| 01:56.39 | poopix | I'm using KDE 3.5.10 and when I maximize a window, there is still decorations on the left, right, and bottom that I can use to resize. How do I get rid of those on maximized windows? |
| 01:58.09 | Jucato | poopix: KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Moving tab -> uncheck Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows |
| 01:58.45 | poopix | Ah ok! Thanks a lot! |
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| 02:08.01 | EtFb | I learned to use a mouse on Windows 3.1 (it's OK; I got better) so I usually close windows by double-clicking the window icon instead of clicking the [X]. Now in KDE 4.2 I need to triple-click, not double-click. Is there a way to configure that? |
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| 02:19.50 | TheSource | ok i have kde4 install and working no network |
| 02:20.03 | Moult | In KMail, can I set it so that I can only download the message and read it without having to download the attachment too? |
| 02:20.58 | Moult | EtFb: uh. what? 3.1? |
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| 02:21.47 | TheSource | anyides why i dont have network in kde4 |
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| 02:22.40 | derek_k | Moult: with an imap account you can do that |
| 02:22.42 | flailsafe | TheSource: What do you mean by no network? You can't get on the internet? Are you conneced by ether or wifi? |
| 02:22.59 | TheSource | yaa |
| 02:23.06 | Moult | derek_k: yes, i have an imap account, how do i do it? |
| 02:23.08 | TheSource | there is no network |
| 02:23.24 | flailsafe | TheSource: Ethernet or wifi? |
| 02:23.35 | TheSource | im back on kde3 |
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| 02:23.51 | TheSource | but i cant get internet to work on kde4 |
| 02:23.59 | flailsafe | TheSource: Are you using wifi or ethernet to get on the internet? |
| 02:24.08 | TheSource | wifi |
| 02:24.11 | derek_k | Moult: settings - configure KMail - accounts - select your imap account, modify, and on the second tab there is a checkbox |
| 02:24.31 | flailsafe | TheSource: When you are in KDE4, are you running knetworkmanager? |
| 02:24.34 | derek_k | TheSource: what distribution? |
| 02:24.53 | Moult | derek_k: "load attachments on demand" <-- i do not have it checked. |
| 02:25.13 | TheSource | there was no knetworkmanager AND IM USE sabayon gentoo |
| 02:25.24 | EtFb | Moult: Yes, MS Windows 3.1. It got replaced by Windows 95 in 1995 (unsurprisingly). But a lot of my muscle-memory comes from those days. In Windows 3.1 you double-click the icon to close a window, and that worked in KDE up to 3.5 as well... but in KDE 4 it's slightly wrong. |
| 02:25.29 | derek_k | Moult: that's it |
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| 02:25.56 | derek_k | EtFb: works here |
| 02:25.56 | Moult | derek_k: yes, i already had it unchecked. but when i double click a message to view it, it still downloads the attachment |
| 02:26.04 | flailsafe | TheSource: Well you can log into KDE4, and run /usr/bin/knetworkmanager That should start it for you. Then you can connect to your wifi |
| 02:26.26 | flailsafe | TheSource: Then what you can do is create a symlink of knetworkmanager and put it in ~/.kde4/Autostart |
| 02:26.32 | EtFb | derek_k: KDE 4.2? Evidence via google suggests it's a regression bug affecting only some systems. I'm on Kubuntu 8.10. |
| 02:27.04 | EtFb | That's why I'm wondering if there's a configuration option. I mean, come one: this is KDE! There's a configuration option for "halt and catch fire" if you know where to find it... |
| 02:27.36 | Moult | EtFb: i'm on gentoo and yes i have to triple click - you're right. i don't think there is a config for it though. if there is, search under .kde4/share/config/ |
| 02:28.19 | Moult | derek_k: should i have it checked? |
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| 02:28.24 | derek_k | EtFb: running trunk |
| 02:29.20 | Jucato | it was mentioned here before that the triple/double click to close feature (and it's configurability) depends on the window decoration being used. I haven't tried to confirm that though |
| 02:29.20 | EtFb | derek_k: Not sure what that means. Can you elaborate? |
| 02:29.21 | derek_k | Moult: just tried, I have it checked and it didn't download them until I selected them |
| 02:29.39 | Moult | EtFb: he is running the latest version from the SVN trunk. so he is more up to date than you (assumedly) |
| 02:29.52 | derek_k | EtFb: I build every few days from the developers code |
| 02:30.04 | Jucato | EtFb: try the Plastik window decoration. it has that feature if you really need it |
| 02:30.12 | Moult | derek_k: i think i'll try to cehck it then and see what happens. |
| 02:30.16 | derek_k | I think I'm on oxygen as decoration |
| 02:30.25 | EtFb | Moult: I see; thanks. Yep, I'm on the 4.2 from kubuntu-experimental. |
| 02:30.42 | EtFb | derek_k: I'm using Oxygen too. I'll switch to Plastik and see if it's fixed there. |
| 02:31.08 | EtFb | Means I can target a bug report to the theme maintainers, which is a better idea. |
| 02:32.16 | Moult | EtFb: i'm not sure about kubuntu, but i would assume that kubuntu-experimental is not SVN, but snapshots. |
| 02:32.43 | EtFb | Jucato: No luck - selected Plastik, and double-click still doesn't work. Flicks the system menu open, but doesn't close the window. |
| 02:32.50 | Jucato | EtFb: it's not something that's broken. it's a feature that depends on the window decoration being used. Plastik has it, Oxygen/Ozone doesn't. at most you can file a wish asking for that feature |
| 02:33.11 | Jucato | hm.. |
| 02:33.45 | Moult | derek_k: i tried checking it and it still seems to be downloading the attachment when i double click on the message to view it. either that or my internet is suddenly very slow. |
| 02:34.11 | EtFb | Jucato: From the Kubuntu POV, it's a regression, since it worked in $DEFAULT_THEME in KDE 3.5 and not in 4. THe fact that $DEFAULT_THEME changed is kind of moot. |
| 02:34.39 | EtFb | Jucato: But then, it doesn't work with Plastik either... |
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| 02:34.57 | Jucato | yeah *that* is the bug (Plastik not working) |
| 02:35.22 | derek_k | Moult: I tried with different attachments. it was different each time :) I think we found a bug! |
| 02:35.33 | Jucato | from that "Kubuntu POV" (and I don't believe it's Kubuntu's POV anyway), KDE 4 is a regression of KDE 3 then. because a lot has changed |
| 02:35.52 | Jucato | file a bug as you wish |
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| 02:37.47 | doubleA | just tried k3b for the first time. trying to burn mp3. burns ok but volume is very low. tried with and without normalize. still low. where can i go for help with this? |
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| 02:41.54 | EtFb | Jucato: Yes, well... KDE4.2 came just in time to stop me following Linus's lead and cursing KDE4 for its utter uselessness. But just because there are a million essential features missing or broken is no reason to ignore one more. This one might be an easy fix! (And it IS a bug, not a change, so it's not a wishlist item.) |
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| 02:47.58 | Moult | derek_k: yay :) found a bug |
| 02:48.14 | Moult | derek_k: do you want to report it? i don't have the details of the different attachments |
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| 02:49.45 | EtFb | Is there any documentation for the settings in .kde/share/config, particularly kwinrc? |
| 02:50.28 | Moult | EtFb: not that i know of, but i normally find it quite straightforward |
| 02:50.55 | EtFb | Moult: A bit difficult to guess what an option might be called when it's not there though. |
| 02:51.11 | Moult | EtFb: oh yeah ;) mabe #kde-devel? |
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| 02:52.05 | EtFb | Interesting: kwinplastikrc has CloseOnMenuDoubleClick=true... but it still doesn't work. |
| 02:52.25 | Zarin | EtFb, triple click it |
| 02:52.34 | Zarin | There's a known bug with the menu button |
| 02:53.03 | EtFb | Zarin: Is there a fix? Or even an active bug report that isn't marked "fixed in 3.2" or something? |
| 02:53.14 | Zarin | EtFb, the bug is still open |
| 02:53.16 | Zarin | No fix |
| 02:53.50 | Zarin | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157184 |
| 02:55.21 | EtFb | Zarin: Oh good. The only one I found was much older, and seemed to have gone the way of all bugs in versions that nobody loves... |
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| 02:55.49 | malv | has anyone managed to fix the systray corruption with the nvidia driver? |
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| 02:56.33 | nmzl1 | how do you enable full message headers in kmail on kde 4.1? |
| 02:56.46 | nmzl1 | I wanna turn off the fancy ones, thanks. |
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| 02:57.25 | Jucato | View -> Headers? |
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| 02:59.24 | EtFb | malv: You mean when icons get random rubbish in them? I had that on an Acer running 4.1, but no trouble on a Toshiba running 4.2. |
| 02:59.36 | malv | yea |
| 03:00.22 | EtFb | malv: What version of KDE are you running (apparently "kwin -v" at a konsole will tell you) |
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| 03:13.52 | flailsafe | or kde4-config --version if on kde 4 and kde-config --version otherwise |
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| 03:14.10 | flailsafe | recursive though... since you have to know your version to get your version |
| 03:16.36 | Jucato | "echo $KDE_SESSION_VERSION" (returns 4 for KDE 4) |
| 03:17.58 | flailsafe | there ya go |
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| 04:03.53 | judgen | two questions: 1.Did the suggestion of global icon coloring ever make it into kde4*. 2.Is it possible to make the systray some other colour than black? |
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| 04:06.46 | ironfroggy_ | I installed the extragears-plasma package and added the twitter widget, but it just comes up as a little black box and is called "Unknown Widget" |
| 04:06.53 | ironfroggy_ | is there something obvious i might be missing? |
| 04:06.55 | coppro | How come Kwin's Invert doesn't work? Am I using it wrong? |
| 04:07.08 | Zarin | coppro, what graphics card do you have? |
| 04:07.17 | coppro | ATI something or other |
| 04:07.22 | coppro | it works fine under Compiz |
| 04:07.24 | flailsafe | ironfroggy_: try killing plasma then running ksysbuildscoa |
| 04:07.36 | flailsafe | ironfroggy_: then start plasma again |
| 04:07.38 | Zarin | coppro, Try typing in the terminal `KWIN_DIRECT_GL=1 kwin --replace &` |
| 04:07.52 | coppro | doing that will probably freeze my computer :/ |
| 04:08.02 | coppro | every time I fiddle with anything that will change compositing, it freezes |
| 04:08.06 | Zarin | Why you say that? |
| 04:08.14 | coppro | Ctrl-Alt-F12: Freeze! |
| 04:08.51 | Zarin | Invert requires desktop effects to be enabled and support shaders |
| 04:09.02 | Zarin | ATI requires direct rendering to have shader support |
| 04:09.07 | coppro | ah |
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| 04:10.50 | ironfroggy_ | thanks |
| 04:11.10 | flailsafe | ironfroggy_: did it work? |
| 04:13.11 | ironfroggy_ | hm.. no i dont have ksysbuildscoa |
| 04:15.00 | flailsafe | sorry typo |
| 04:15.02 | flailsafe | kbuildsycoca4 |
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| 04:18.22 | judaz | hey, i cant make Dragon Player use .srt subtitles |
| 04:18.37 | judaz | is that doable? |
| 04:20.12 | judaz | how can i make dragon player play .srt subtitules |
| 04:20.12 | Moult | I am using kmail with imap. How do i view the message without downloading the attachment first? |
| 04:20.37 | robbmunson | judaz, you dont have to repeat yourself so quickly man :) |
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| 04:21.35 | judaz | robbmunson: sorry.. i thought irssi was not connected |
| 04:22.12 | robbmunson | judaz, wait for one of these guys to answer you, if they will answer that is...heh |
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| 04:22.27 | robbmunson | has had barely any luck with that department..... |
| 04:24.56 | Moult | interesting, the option only works in kmail and when you are viewing the message as a split view |
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| 04:49.13 | judgen | where do i set hotkeys? |
| 04:50.55 | judgen | i want to change the run dialogue from alt+F2 to alt+r |
| 04:51.14 | judgen | found it |
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| 04:55.03 | yao_ziyuan | kwrite is so buggy |
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| 04:55.07 | yao_ziyuan | when i open Replace |
| 04:55.14 | yao_ziyuan | the whole window blacks out |
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| 04:56.58 | flailsafe | yao_ziyuan: what version of KDE? My kwrite doesn't do the same? |
| 04:57.09 | yao_ziyuan | kde 4.2.00 |
| 04:57.18 | yao_ziyuan | first time, it can open up and replace things for me |
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| 04:57.30 | yao_ziyuan | but the second time and from then on, |
| 04:57.33 | yao_ziyuan | it always blacks out |
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| 04:59.04 | yao_ziyuan | now, |
| 04:59.06 | Moult | how come certain applications like Scribus and K3B and QCAD have an ugly large font like this http://www.e2-productions.com/failnation.com/upload/ubr_uploads/snapshot3.png whereas other applications (running 4.2 btw) don't and follow the fonts i set in system settings? |
| 04:59.06 | yao_ziyuan | i open kwrite, |
| 04:59.10 | yao_ziyuan | without entering anything, |
| 04:59.17 | yao_ziyuan | and just click Edit|Replace |
| 04:59.20 | yao_ziyuan | it will black out |
| 04:59.39 | yao_ziyuan | "Find" can show up |
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| 05:01.51 | judgen | im having problems with kgeography.. not an essential app i know, but still. |
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| 05:02.20 | judgen | the countries and states gets whited out |
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| 05:15.22 | thomas_ | I've been very harsh on you guys about KDE 4.0/1, but I must say 4.2 seems pretty nice once you get used to it |
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| 05:15.52 | flailsafe | and it will only get better |
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| 05:16.43 | thomas_ | The only thing I need to figure out know is how to get the old KDE 3 that are still around to use the 4 color sceme |
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| 05:18.51 | thomas_ | the other small problem is that the play/pause key on my computer retarts the track |
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| 05:23.47 | flailsafe | thomas__: that could be related to the audio player you are using |
| 05:24.11 | thomas_ | flailsafe: I'm on Amarok 1.4 at the momment |
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| 05:25.35 | thomas_ | It may all so have something to do with the way kubuntu set things up |
| 05:26.15 | flailsafe | possibly |
| 05:27.28 | thomas_ | altho, all of these Kubuntu/Amarok 1.4/my keyboard worked before... gotta love computers |
| 05:27.42 | judgen | im not sure but i pretty sure, amarok 2 comes with ubuntu. |
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| 05:28.42 | judgen | yup |
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| 05:29.05 | judgen | im running amarok2 by default |
| 05:29.23 | judgen | just had to make sure |
| 05:29.36 | thomas_ | judgen: I don't think it's the default yet tho, and I tried it and it doesn't meet my needs at this time |
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| 05:30.11 | judgen | thomas_: what version of ubuntu? |
| 05:30.22 | thomas_ | judgen: 8.10 |
| 05:30.33 | judgen | thomas_: i ve yet to find more than one app that i use that still uses qt3 |
| 05:30.46 | judgen | im using 9.04b |
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| 05:31.29 | judgen | konversation is still qt3 though. |
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| 05:32.04 | thomas_ | judgen: my versions, of abacus, konversation, and ... ? are still qt3 |
| 05:32.15 | judgen | ill check abacus |
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| 05:47.36 | thomas_ | judgen: I'm back. |
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| 05:52.01 | robbmunson | im out folks, peace! |
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| 05:56.41 | thomas_ | how can we control which windows "dim inactive" gets applied to |
| 05:56.55 | Moult | Why does Todo suck in Kontact? it's slow. It likes to rearrange my todos randomly. i prioritises out of 10, which i find really hard to choose, i prefer out of 5, it's waay to overcomplicated. |
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| 06:27.51 | p_quarles | has anyone else experienced problems with mounting devices via the Recent Devices plasmoid since 4.2 final? |
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| 06:29.58 | zx2c4 | any one here use both pidgin and amarok 2? |
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| 06:33.58 | OhReally | is back. |
| 06:34.27 | zx2c4 | OhReally: are u a pidgin and an amarok user? |
| 06:35.06 | Jucato | OhReally: please turn off your public away/back messages. thanks |
| 06:37.09 | OhReally | Jucato: just have, sorry. |
| 06:37.16 | Jucato | np |
| 06:37.46 | OhReally | zx2c4: not really |
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| 06:37.57 | zx2c4 | shucks |
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| 06:40.49 | sjraarke | Hi all, have been playing with kde 4.2 for the last 2 days. All in all I'm happy with it, but I came across 1 little thing that I don't like. I hope people plan on changing it. The copy progress window is now a kde notification and it disappears shortly after the copy process has started. I seriously hope it will be turned back into a regular window that stays with the initiating program again |
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| 06:46.12 | Jucato | sjraarke: it doesn't disappear until the operation is done. it stays at the corner or is minimized to the system tray as an icon which you can bring up again by clicking |
| 06:46.25 | Jucato | (although admittedly, that new notification thing is giving me some headache w/ kopete) |
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| 06:50.44 | tuxick | a site scrolling very very slowly on konq-4.2.0 http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve |
| 06:50.45 | sjraarke | It disappeared here, but it came back when I clicked the exclamation mark |
| 06:50.56 | tuxick | i don't understand why it's not all sites |
| 06:51.00 | tuxick | and i mean SLOW |
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| 06:51.23 | Jucato | sjraarke: right. that's the new behavior |
| 06:51.24 | sjraarke | It has a couple of downsides the way it is now. |
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| 06:52.15 | sjraarke | It shouldn't, the copy process isn't done so the copy progress window has to stay visible |
| 06:52.41 | Jucato | in my case it stays unless I click on the icon |
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| 06:53.49 | sjraarke | When I drag an object the progress window shows up for a few seconds and goes away. There is no indication that the process is done or still going |
| 06:55.03 | Jucato | the ! icon disappears if it's done. (though like I said, it doesnt disappear for me) |
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| 06:55.38 | sjraarke | Okay, but that's a very small indicator |
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| 06:56.31 | sjraarke | There are 2 other things wrong in my view with this approach |
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| 06:57.33 | sjraarke | First is, you can't resize it so the dir names are cut off (a chunk cut out) so one can't see where it's going |
| 06:58.26 | sjraarke | Second, The progress window is locked to the bottom righthand side on all desktops so basically one process renders all bottom righthand sides useless |
| 06:58.50 | Jucato | (you can actually move the dialog window) |
| 06:59.21 | sjraarke | Jucato: It doesn't move here (or I haven't found out how yet) |
| 07:00.13 | Jucato | hm.. maybe only certain ones (like in Kopete) |
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| 07:00.35 | Jucato | file bug reports (or see if there are any filed) |
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| 07:00.47 | sjraarke | okay, will do |
| 07:01.04 | Jucato | as for dir names being cut off, only the middle is cut off (same default behavior in previous dialogs) |
| 07:02.00 | sjraarke | Yes, I understand, but with the old style progress window, it could be resized so everything was visible |
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| 07:33.55 | GSF1200S | anyone here know how to add widgets to the kde dashboard? |
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| 08:33.45 | Crissi | hm.... why the kde4 desktop is so slow? |
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| 08:34.06 | Crissi | i'm running on p4 1.6ghz with 1 gb ram and its slow |
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| 08:34.33 | padde | Crissi: nvidia card? which driver version? |
| 08:34.45 | Crissi | ati |
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| 08:35.27 | [square] | is there a file where i can see all colours used by my kde theme? |
| 08:35.29 | padde | hm... then i don't know. lightning fast for me (4.2.0, that is... 4.0 was quite sluggish, 4.1 also not as fast as 4.2.0) |
| 08:35.47 | Crissi | VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R300 NE [Radeon 9500 Pro] |
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| 08:36.09 | padde | Crissi: did you try disabling desktop effects (if they are enabled)? |
| 08:36.14 | Crissi | all disabled |
| 08:36.20 | padde | Crissi: and what exactly do you find slow? |
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| 08:36.27 | Crissi | i can work with it but its slower than kde |
| 08:36.29 | Crissi | kde3 |
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| 08:37.05 | Crissi | for example system settings need a while if i click on a entry |
| 08:37.29 | Crissi | kickoff is a marture, solved by using classical menu |
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| 08:37.50 | padde | Crissi: is it fast on the second time you click on the same icon in systemsettings? |
| 08:38.08 | bgmiki | Crissi: what distro? |
| 08:38.11 | Crissi | the krunner is slow because i tries to display the app symbols by typing |
| 08:39.07 | Crissi | kubuntu |
| 08:39.13 | bgmiki | oh |
| 08:39.31 | Crissi | intrepid |
| 08:39.40 | padde | Crissi: i also resisted kickoff for quite some time. but now i start to really like it, once I got over my "urgh, it's different" feeling. feels so stupid now to trie to navigate the mouse in both dimensions instead of only vertically when browsing for an application |
| 08:39.41 | Crissi | with ppa packages |
| 08:39.50 | Crissi | bah |
| 08:40.09 | padde | krunner could be faster, there I agree... |
| 08:40.11 | Crissi | i dont like that xp crap |
| 08:40.23 | bgmiki | Crissi: kubuntu is realy slow try something else |
| 08:40.26 | Crissi | kde4.2 is the first version which is usable |
| 08:40.27 | padde | huh? xp didn't have that |
| 08:40.37 | Crissi | but there are alot things which could be better |
| 08:40.42 | padde | Crissi: you didn't even really try it, admit it ;) |
| 08:40.44 | Crissi | bgmiki: no |
| 08:40.51 | Crissi | just installed |
| 08:41.02 | padde | Crissi: submit bug reports and feature requests then |
| 08:41.10 | bgmiki | Crissi: i use kubuntu ubuntu :) |
| 08:41.11 | Crissi | yes, i'll do... |
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| 08:41.48 | padde | Crissi: i mean kickoff you didn't really try... just want your windows 95 feeling back ;) |
| 08:42.30 | Crissi | i told the kde team __before__ release 4.0 to resolve the problems and add the missing features... but they dont listen to me... now we had the shit... 4.2 is the first release which is a useable desktop |
| 08:43.07 | padde | Crissi: i agree. but why don't you just stop complaining and start hacking? |
| 08:43.20 | bgmiki | :) |
| 08:43.59 | padde | Crissi: check out the source code already! ;) |
| 08:44.03 | padde | ok got to go now... |
| 08:44.45 | bgmiki | Crissi: try kdemod archlinux |
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| 08:45.05 | Crissi | padde: yes, i port my app to kde4 |
| 08:45.31 | shikamaru | morning :) |
| 08:46.21 | Crissi | padde: thats my old kde3 screen: http://crissi.linux-administrator.com/tmp/screen_crissi.png |
| 08:47.15 | Crissi | currently thats not possible... i just evaluate kde4.2... if its ready i'll switch... |
| 08:47.20 | shikamaru | kvirc user too? :) |
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| 08:47.33 | shikamaru | I think you can switch :) |
| 08:47.38 | Crissi | but not yet (kde4 is incomplete, slow and sometimes buggy) |
| 08:47.42 | Crissi | shikamaru: no |
| 08:47.52 | shikamaru | I don't find it slow |
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| 08:48.03 | shikamaru | of course there is still room for improvements |
| 08:48.08 | Guest69915 | strange bug, a couple of day ago my desktop effects stopped working but 3d and everything was configured fine. Today I decided to try re-installing most of kde and it started working again. |
| 08:48.18 | Guest69915 | any ideas why this might happen? |
| 08:48.53 | Crissi | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182141 |
| 08:49.00 | charon | Guest69915: i guess it depends on the graphics driver. i get that all the time with nvidia when switching display setups (such as enabling/disabling an external monitor) |
| 08:49.07 | Crissi | thats the first stopper |
| 08:49.20 | Crissi | next, the plasma panel is really crap |
| 08:49.22 | Guest69915 | yes, I have an nvidia driver too |
| 08:49.23 | shikamaru | nvidia is known to have poor 2D performance those days :/ |
| 08:49.25 | Crissi | want kicker back |
| 08:49.34 | Crissi | shikamaru: no... |
| 08:49.44 | Guest69915 | my performance is pretty good with latest 180.27 drivers |
| 08:49.54 | Crissi | the problem is that qt4( and kde4) use functions which not used before |
| 08:50.00 | Crissi | kde3 is really fast |
| 08:50.14 | bgmiki | http://imagebin.ca/view/s9ZYTwpj.html |
| 08:50.14 | Crissi | but nvidia fixed a lot then |
| 08:50.23 | shikamaru | well, the panel has been improved for 4.2 |
| 08:50.31 | Crissi | boo |
| 08:50.31 | shikamaru | and it is still improved :) |
| 08:50.55 | shikamaru | quite some time ago it was not possible to group similar applications |
| 08:51.03 | Crissi | i need the place for working not for playing |
| 08:51.17 | shikamaru | add another panel then :) |
| 08:51.37 | Crissi | improved? fixed some bugs and some features added.. but its still CRAP |
| 08:51.55 | Crissi | adding another panel is useless: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182141 |
| 08:52.06 | Guest69915 | I agree that the plasma panel is still buggy in 4.2, dragging items between panels does not always work etc... |
| 08:52.09 | Crissi | for eample the color cant be changed |
| 08:52.28 | Crissi | all need too much space |
| 08:53.32 | Crissi | the settings for the panel are not logical and easy to use |
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| 08:54.32 | Crissi | i'll play i little bit with the kde4.2 machine but waiting for 4.3 i think |
| 08:54.48 | padde | Crissi: you can change the colour, you can change the whole theme, you can do whatever you want. the architecture is much better than in kde 3.5 |
| 08:54.53 | Crissi | all done |
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| 08:55.13 | Crissi | i tried all to change for my needs but its not ready for me |
| 08:55.23 | Crissi | (and for a lot of others) |
| 08:56.14 | padde | Crissi: that may well be, but by farting in an irc channel nothing will change, except that people won't take you seriously ;) |
| 08:56.42 | Crissi | the kde4 file selector is also limited and on some places not self explaining... the address line for example |
| 08:57.02 | Crissi | padde: ask the kde devs... they know me already |
| 08:57.59 | shikamaru | :) |
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| 08:59.20 | Crissi | http://crissi.linux-administrator.com/tmp/screen_crissi_kde4.png |
| 08:59.32 | Crissi | thats the current state of my kde4 desktop |
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| 09:00.28 | pprince | I've never used kde. gnome only very little. rich de's seem so foreign to me... hard to figure them out. |
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| 09:30.44 | thiago | lokai: reinstall it from the package |
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| 09:37.46 | ronino | hi |
| 09:38.12 | ronino | I switched from 4.1 to 4.2, copied over my configuration, but Kopete doesn't seem to know about my ICQ access |
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| 09:38.33 | ronino | though it's in the config |
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| 09:59.09 | Phlogi | does not know what distro hi should install on a friends laptop for kde 4.2 use, that friend is not very experienced and just wants that stuff works and is easy to use, its a laptop |
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| 09:59.29 | freeedrich| | SuSE - but still, no distro talk here :P |
| 09:59.31 | Phlogi | maybe someone can make a little recommodation but without starting a flame war :) |
| 09:59.41 | Phlogi | freeedrich|: hi :P |
| 10:00.00 | Phlogi | freeedrich|: I assume you mean opensuse |
| 10:00.03 | knusperfrosch | promotes any apt-based distribution :) |
| 10:00.14 | freeedrich| | like kubuntu, heh :P |
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| 10:00.21 | freeedrich| | bad joke. |
| 10:00.30 | freeedrich| | Phlogi: Arch Linux is nice as well. |
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| 10:00.49 | Phlogi | freeedrich|: thats installed and I will drop it IMHO |
| 10:01.07 | Phlogi | freeedrich|: I'm really curious about arch actually... |
| 10:01.32 | Phlogi | but I think that it will take more time to set it up than an opensuse |
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| 10:11.25 | xdmx | hi guys, i've just upgraded to kde 4.2, it's very nice :) (a part of a little annoyance).. just two questions.. is it possible to have a bigger font for the time and a smaller for the date? is it possible to change the default charset? i mean, like in konsole it says "character encoding -> default", but where i can change that default? |
| 10:12.36 | annma | bigger font for the time and smaller for the date: what time & date are you atlking about? |
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| 10:13.43 | lmm | where's the "enable all sounds" button in the notifications settings? (kde 4.2) |
| 10:13.48 | lmm | it's mentioned in the help but I don't see it |
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| 10:14.47 | annma | xdmx: explain better please |
| 10:15.04 | xdmx | annma: the default digital clock which is active by default |
| 10:15.15 | annma | inpanel? |
| 10:15.29 | annma | or on desktop? |
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| 10:15.41 | xdmx | in panel |
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| 10:16.10 | annma | how would you fit it if you choose say 20 for time??? |
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| 10:16.19 | annma | I don't see the logic here |
| 10:17.03 | annma | be more precise and file a wish with a mockup if you want |
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| 10:18.00 | corigo3 | When I add the repositories for downloading KDE 4.2 it also prompts me to download MySQL... is this necessary? Any reason why I would want that %^& on my computer? |
| 10:18.15 | xdmx | annma: maybe not 20 :) but at least change the two between date and time, i mean, which is the logic to have the date bigger than the time? i think that the time is more important to know (you look at it more times per day), i don't think you need to check the date every hour to know that is always the same day :) |
| 10:18.38 | lmm | corigo3: I think the desktop search stuff uses it as a backend |
| 10:18.48 | annma | if you add the date then it's also important |
| 10:19.31 | annma | we fit them in the panel |
| 10:19.31 | corigo3 | Imm: ugh |
| 10:19.31 | lmm | it's more sensible than writing your own database |
| 10:19.31 | annma | if you are smart enough to calculate the time bigger than date and date still visible, feel free to propose patch xdmx |
| 10:19.38 | annma | this is free software |
| 10:19.42 | annma | free source |
| 10:19.50 | thiago | corigo3: both Amarok and Akonadi use MySQL |
| 10:20.00 | corigo3 | Imm: I've already got a REAL database installed that is REAL FOSS, i.e. Postgres |
| 10:20.02 | thiago | Akonadi can be ported in the future to another DB backend |
| 10:20.07 | thiago | Amarok cannot |
| 10:20.11 | thiago | you are stuck with MySQL |
| 10:20.12 | annma | the logic behind them being equal height is that they are both visible |
| 10:20.15 | thiago | which, btw, is GPL... |
| 10:20.29 | lmm | please don't try and start an entirely irrelevant argument here, especially since you're wrong |
| 10:20.48 | lmm | does akonadi really ship with only mysql backend? |
| 10:20.50 | thiago | lmm: the desktop search stuff uses another type of DB entirely. It's not RDBMS. |
| 10:20.54 | thiago | lmm: yes |
| 10:21.02 | lmm | that's a bit lame |
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| 10:21.05 | thiago | why? |
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| 10:21.13 | Mike1 | hey |
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| 10:21.15 | thiago | I think shipping the only backend available is very intelligent |
| 10:21.17 | thiago | shipping none would be lame |
| 10:21.22 | Mike1 | how can i shutdown KDE-apps properly? |
| 10:21.28 | thiago | Mike1: kquitapp appname |
| 10:21.33 | annma | Mike1: File -> Quit |
| 10:21.39 | thiago | Ctrl+Q |
| 10:21.44 | annma | or what thiago said from command line |
| 10:21.44 | lmm | oh, indeed, but shipping more would be better, and in particular there really should be one which doesn't require setting up a db server |
| 10:21.54 | annma | more: like what? |
| 10:22.00 | thiago | lmm: Akonadi configures and runs its own mysqld |
| 10:22.16 | thiago | lmm: you don't have to set it up. As long as the mysqld executable is available, it'll do everything for you. |
| 10:22.27 | lmm | hmm, that has its own problems |
| 10:22.33 | lmm | anyway, not my issue |
| 10:22.41 | thiago | if you don't like that, then configure your MySQL server and set up akonadi to use it. |
| 10:22.43 | annma | so what backend would you prefer? |
| 10:22.51 | Mike1 | mike@mikespc:~$ kquitapp kopete |
| 10:22.53 | Mike1 | <unknown program name>(9573)/: Application "kopete" could not be found using service "org.kde.kopete" and path "/MainApplication" |
| 10:22.54 | thiago | you have a choice between these backends: mysql |
| 10:22.55 | lmm | well, I would actually prefer postgres |
| 10:23.01 | Mike1 | but kopete is running for sure |
| 10:23.02 | thiago | that's not an option (no one wrote that backend) |
| 10:23.04 | thiago | choose another |
| 10:23.12 | annma | or wrote the backend |
| 10:23.15 | Mike1 | (i'm using Fluxbox btw.) |
| 10:23.24 | lmm | well, perhaps I will. No need to be so confrontational about it |
| 10:23.25 | thiago | Mike1: then kopete isn't running |
| 10:23.43 | Mike1 | mike@mikespc:~$ ps -e | grep kopete |
| 10:23.44 | Mike1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.50 | thiago | Mike1: is that KDE 3 or 4? |
| 10:23.58 | Mike1 | it's the KDE3 kopete |
| 10:24.22 | thiago | then use KDE 3 tools: dcopquit |
| 10:24.45 | thiago | if you're using KDE 3, you have to say so. We are assuming everyone here is using KDE 4 unless they mention otherwise. |
| 10:25.21 | Mike1 | thiago: that command works, but it makes Kopete crash when i shut it down |
| 10:25.33 | thiago | that's a bug then... |
| 10:25.35 | Mike1 | thiago: signal 11 (SIGSEGV) says the crash handler |
| 10:26.03 | lmm | amarok 1.* supported more databases, which is actually a problem for me because there don't seem to be migration tools available, unless that's changed now? |
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| 10:26.30 | Jucato | lmm: Amarok 2 uses MySQL Embedded only |
| 10:26.50 | Jucato | I'm soooo far behind |
| 10:26.57 | Jucato | er.. wrong tab |
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| 10:27.44 | tuxick | i also noticed amarok2 printed a lot of stuff to terminal |
| 10:27.53 | tuxick | including some yelling about CREATE TABLE etc |
| 10:28.06 | annma | tuxick: it's debugging info |
| 10:28.07 | Mike1 | thiago: the question now is, how to make my PC use that dcopquit when shutting down -_- |
| 10:28.17 | annma | no harm done |
| 10:28.18 | tuxick | annma: but does it create those tables anyway? |
| 10:28.35 | annma | does it work or not? |
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| 10:28.46 | annma | if it works, just let debug alone |
| 10:28.51 | tuxick | i killed it, it was time to sleep :) |
| 10:29.02 | tuxick | didn't want to get involved in another expedition |
| 10:29.08 | tuxick | will check later |
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| 10:29.15 | thiago | Mike1: KDE apps should close cleanly when the X session manager tells them to |
| 10:29.17 | Jucato | Mike1: put it in a script that fluxbox/your system can call when shutting down |
| 10:29.21 | thiago | Mike1: you shouldn't need dcopquit |
| 10:29.27 | Jucato | or that ^^ :) |
| 10:29.50 | Mike1 | thiago: my real problem is: AmaroK does not store the playlist when I shut down my PC |
| 10:30.00 | Mike1 | i asume it's just being killed |
| 10:30.11 | thiago | Mike1: does it happen inside KDE? |
| 10:30.25 | Mike1 | as far as i remember: no |
| 10:30.33 | thiago | do you know if fluxbox supports XSM? |
| 10:31.05 | Mike1 | thiago: what's that? |
| 10:31.18 | thiago | X Session Management |
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| 10:31.33 | thiago | that's how applications are told that X is exiting, so they should save their information and quit |
| 10:31.48 | thiago | applications don't react nicely to being killed or the X connection suddenly being torn down |
| 10:32.16 | Jucato | X Session Mana.... |
| 10:32.30 | Jucato | typing on this thing is slow ;) |
| 10:32.39 | Mike1 | Jucato: netbook? ;) |
| 10:32.52 | Jucato | N810 :) |
| 10:33.13 | thiago | Jucato: full-screen keyboard or the small keyboard? |
| 10:33.28 | thiago | or are you using the handwrite recognising input? |
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| 10:33.56 | Jucato | thiago, the hardware keyboard.still getting used to button smashing :D |
| 10:34.22 | thiago | if you tap the input area with your finger, you'll get a full-screen keyboard |
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| 10:35.17 | Jucato | yeah, but that's actually more inconvenient.you can only see the line edit, and not the context |
| 10:35.27 | xdmx | annma: what about the charset? do you know if is possible to change? |
| 10:35.38 | Jucato | so if someone says something while you're typing, you won't see it |
| 10:35.53 | Mike1 | thiago: i can't find information about Fluxbox and xsm :( |
| 10:36.05 | Mike1 | thiago: also the people in #fluxbox do not answer |
| 10:36.20 | Jucato | try XSMP |
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| 10:38.35 | Mike1 | Jucato: can't find anything either |
| 10:38.47 | annma | charset? |
| 10:38.49 | Jucato | yeah no luck here as well... |
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| 10:39.09 | annma | you can change the font style xdmx |
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| 10:39.31 | sgnut | is it possible to add another countries/cities to the lcd weather plasmoid? |
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| 10:39.51 | xdmx | annma: i mean the default charset encoding of kde (it was the second question :) ) |
| 10:39.52 | thiago | you can add more plasmoids |
| 10:40.06 | thiago | xdmx: the default charset encoding of KDE is UTF-8 |
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| 10:40.10 | annma | sgnut: the lcd weather has 3 providers |
| 10:40.19 | Jucato | Mike1: although the dependencies in a debian page suggests flux depends on xsm |
| 10:40.22 | thiago | because that's the locale charset |
| 10:40.25 | sgnut | annma: yes but my country (spain) is not included :( |
| 10:40.26 | annma | sgnut: isn't your country covered by any? |
| 10:40.31 | annma | not the BBC? |
| 10:40.46 | xdmx | thiago: ok |
| 10:40.55 | annma | sgnut: the problem is that the weather data lust be free from your country |
| 10:40.58 | Jucato | Mike1 see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=303082 and search for libsm |
| 10:41.24 | xdmx | thiago: why when i select default charset on konsole it doesn't change? :) |
| 10:41.32 | sgnut | annma: ohh I have found it now xD |
| 10:41.33 | thiago | what doesn't change? |
| 10:41.42 | sgnut | annma: xD sorry |
| 10:41.49 | Mike1 | Jucato, thiago: what would that xsm thingy do anyways? |
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| 10:42.23 | Mike1 | Jucato, thiago: it just stores all apps currently running and is able to start them again as far as i read |
| 10:42.25 | xdmx | thiago: it doesn't stay checked... eg. i've selected iso8859, then i select default, and it stay on iso8859.... but if i select something else (unicode->uft8) it change without problems |
| 10:43.04 | thiago | konsole can change the default encoding in the profile preferences |
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| 10:49.48 | deitarion | Is there an alternative to the web interface for reporting bugs? When you have over half a dozen of them, the time it takes to run through the web UI multiple times becomes a strong disincentive. |
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| 10:50.09 | Ghabit | Hello. Guys, help me please. How to install panelspacer plasmoid without distro package? Maybe there are exist some other way? It is very important plasmoid for me. |
| 10:50.12 | deitarion | ...especially since the bugs.kde.org server seems to be overworked. |
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| 10:52.24 | annma | deitarion: KBugBuster |
| 10:52.41 | annma | might be in playground though but it's in the making |
| 10:52.53 | annma | a bunch of French students are on it as assignment |
| 10:52.56 | pinotree | kbugbuster cannot report bugs |
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| 10:53.14 | tuxick | they now need someone to translate it to english! |
| 10:53.18 | thiago | Ghabit: get the source, compile it, install it |
| 10:54.03 | annma | it can manage bugs, yes |
| 10:54.03 | Ghabit | thiago: how can I compile and install it? I am a linux newbie. |
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| 10:54.46 | annma | we were all newbies at some point |
| 10:55.07 | deitarion | Oh, and as an intermediate step, is there a way to launch the "Submit Bug Report" dialog from Plasma? If I open it in Konqueror and select "plasma/panel", it says "Version: unknown" which defeats 1/3rd of its purpose. |
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| 10:55.22 | thiago | Ghabit: then I suggest you wait for the distro package |
| 10:55.31 | thiago | Ghabit: in case you want to learn, here's how: |
| 10:55.47 | thiago | Ghabit: install the KDE development packages for your distribution (how? ask your distribution's channel) |
| 10:55.57 | thiago | Ghabit: download the tarball containing the software, unpack it |
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| 10:56.15 | thiago | Ghabit: run cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` |
| 10:56.21 | thiago | Ghabit: make && make install |
| 10:56.21 | Jucato | Ghabit, try checking in kde-apps if there's a package for your distro.if there isn't,there is no other way except to follow thiago's instructions |
| 10:56.50 | Ghabit | thiago: Thanks a lot, I'll try it now. |
| 10:57.19 | Ghabit | thiago: One last question - is it possible to install it from source somewhere at home directory, not it system? |
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| 10:59.53 | Jucato | Ghabit: possible, yes. but it will be a bit more complicated setting up the proper environment variables to make KDE see it whenever it starts up |
| 11:00.08 | Jucato | (in short, it's easier to enter the root passowrd and install in the system) |
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| 11:02.13 | annma | Ghabit: for a plasmoid just set KDEDIRS to include the new dir |
| 11:02.29 | annma | and it should work, I tested once |
| 11:02.42 | Ghabit | annma: Can you tell me how to set it? |
| 11:03.15 | annma | hmmm if you don't know about env vars you'd better wait for your distro package |
| 11:03.29 | annma | you are a newbie and you want to take the difficult path |
| 11:03.48 | Ghabit | Yes, I know, I am a stupid for now in linux. But KDE looks like crap without this feauture. |
| 11:03.54 | Jucato | (like I said, easier to install it system wide in this case) |
| 11:05.00 | annma | looks like crap is quite a insult |
| 11:05.06 | annma | thanks Ghabit |
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| 11:06.43 | Ghabit | annma: :) I mean some other thing. I like kde very much, that because I'm trying so hard, but I have systray centered at panel, it takes 50% of it, popups appesart at center of the screen too, etc. |
| 11:07.00 | annma | yes I remember your screenshpt |
| 11:07.13 | pinotree | then why don't you just make the panel small? |
| 11:07.13 | annma | but then you have a special case and yo want it like that |
| 11:07.18 | annma | he does not want |
| 11:07.20 | annma | !!! |
| 11:07.20 | Ghabit | And sorry if I'm using some words with strange sence, my english is very poor. |
| 11:07.28 | annma | but bashing KDE for that is lame Ghabit |
| 11:07.49 | annma | you are choosing a special config which is in the way of being supported |
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| 11:08.08 | annma | so either you build the spacer or you ask your distro dor it |
| 11:08.25 | annma | or you contribute to finishit |
| 11:08.27 | pinotree | no really, what is the sense of having a full-width panel empty for more than 50% of its space? |
| 11:08.47 | annma | the sense is being able to say: KDE looks crap |
| 11:08.57 | Ghabit | pinotree: For icons, but I cannot add them there, because quicklauncher will hide them. |
| 11:09.07 | annma | Ghabit: and don't "newbie" me |
| 11:09.09 | Jucato | Ghabit: or follow thiago's instructions in compiling *if* you cannot find a package for your distro in kde-apps.org |
| 11:09.22 | Ghabit | annma: Oh, c'mon, just poor english. |
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| 11:09.45 | Ghabit | I means hard to use. |
| 11:09.59 | annma | hard to use??? |
| 11:10.05 | annma | anyway |
| 11:10.16 | Ghabit | Looks not very comfortable. |
| 11:10.17 | annma | just don't use it then |
| 11:10.33 | annma | we do not oblige anyone to use it |
| 11:10.49 | Ghabit | annma: I think you are too nervous. I DO NOT MEAN ANY BAD THINGS. |
| 11:10.50 | Ghabit | Ok? |
| 11:10.55 | Ghabit | Just stop it :) |
| 11:10.59 | annma | I am a developer |
| 11:11.07 | yuking | Ghabit, i think you have not set you panel very well |
| 11:11.17 | annma | we told you the insttructions anyway |
| 11:11.23 | annma | so just do it |
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| 11:12.02 | annma | a desktop cannot fill everyone needs that's why in Linux there are several types of desktops |
| 11:12.08 | annma | which is great |
| 11:12.20 | annma | freedom comes with choice |
| 11:12.21 | Ghabit | annma: And I am a user, science 4.2 begins developing I was installing it from source, time by time, I've learn how to use gentoo, how to use alternative package managers, how to use live packages, how to fix broken svn trees, I like kde not less than you. |
| 11:12.41 | Ghabit | annma: just bad english, please stop to shame me :) |
| 11:12.45 | annma | so just build the thing and be happy that we ùmade it |
| 11:13.17 | Ghabit | annma: And I do it because I like only kde @ nix systems and cannot use windows. |
| 11:13.24 | yuking | Ghabit, I am using LFS, and I compiled kde4 from SVN, maybe I ever met the problem you are meeting |
| 11:13.50 | Ghabit | yuking: Don't think so :) |
| 11:14.10 | Ghabit | If you are using LFS you know how to do this things. |
| 11:14.46 | Jucato | Ghabit: why not just compile it? it's as simple as that? (or ask if someone from your distro has a package) |
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| 11:16.03 | Ghabit | Jucato: As I understood, it installs it into system without using package manager, and person who teached me to use linux says - never install software 'by hands' into system. Only /opt/ direcroty or /home/. |
| 11:16.19 | Iceflow | morning all. Anyone know how to clear the recently used lists in the Menu in KDE4.1.3 please? |
| 11:16.40 | Jucato | Ghabit: that depends. it's not an absolute rule. besides, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=89304&forumpage=1&PHPSESSID=cae has a Gentoo ebuild |
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| 11:17.08 | Ghabit | Jucato: that ebuild wants other version of kde as a dependency. |
| 11:17.17 | Ghabit | 4.1.3 |
| 11:17.27 | Ghabit | And I have not tested 4.2 |
| 11:17.39 | Ghabit | I have allready googleled :) |
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| 11:18.22 | yuking | Ghabit, but i do not know what the problem is. |
| 11:18.34 | Jucato | Ghabit: as a gentoo user, you should be used to doing these things. now, since you seem to trust that person who taught you, why not ask him to help you compile and install this as well? |
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| 11:23.09 | Ghabit | Jucato: Because I've lost contact with him. |
| 11:24.32 | Jucato | so now you have a choice: either hold on to what you were taught, even if they are not absolutely true in all cases, or believe KDE developers when they try to help you. if you chose the former, then you'll have to wait for packages/ebuilds from your distro. if you choose the second one, the instructions were already given to you |
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| 11:25.04 | Ghabit | Affiarmative. |
| 11:25.09 | Ghabit | Thanks a lot :P |
| 11:25.14 | crash0 | hey there, anyone using kde 4.1 with an intel gma965 and could give hints what to do to make compositing work? |
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| 11:25.45 | voodoo | Hi ..... anyone uses dragon player ? |
| 11:25.49 | yuking | Ghabit, move ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* to other place, and restart your kde, then re-config it |
| 11:26.04 | Jucato | yuking: that has nothing to do with it |
| 11:26.36 | Jucato | it's a known layout problem in Plasma that is already being fixed. the current solution is to (compile and) install that panel spacer plasmoid |
| 11:26.46 | Jucato | (or resize the panel) |
| 11:28.10 | yuking | Jucato, my kde4 works very well, except I can not input Chinese to konqueror occasionly |
| 11:28.49 | Jucato | yuking: if you remove the Task Manager applet on the panel, you will see what Ghabit means |
| 11:29.31 | deitarion | If Ghabit is still talking about the panel spacer, then it's not a simple matter. |
| 11:30.00 | yuking | Jucato, he do not need a Task manager? |
| 11:30.04 | deitarion | The ebuild depends on KDE 4.1 because the CMake API for building plasmoids has changed. |
| 11:30.25 | crash0 | nobody using an intel gma654 aka intel X3100? |
| 11:30.28 | Ghabit | yuking: I have two panels, one at top and one at bottom. |
| 11:30.30 | Jucato | deitarion: it is. just compile and install and the plasmoid is available. his problem is not that. his problem is that he was taught never to install stuff he compiled by hand except in /opt and /home |
| 11:30.33 | pusling | Jucato: where is the panel spacer plasmoid ? |
| 11:30.40 | Jucato | pusling: kde-look.org |
| 11:30.45 | Jucato | (I gave a link above) |
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| 11:31.21 | yuking | Ghabit, I am trying... |
| 11:31.29 | Ghabit | pusling: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Panel+Spacer?content=89304 |
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| 11:31.44 | Jucato | deitarion: so he's looking either for a distro package (more complicated as you have mentioned) or installing in /home (also equally complicated setting up with env vars for his admitted level) |
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| 11:32.58 | yuking | Ghabit, yes, it is a serious problem if no task manager in the panel |
| 11:33.13 | Jucato | although I'm actually not sure if it works in 4.2... |
| 11:33.47 | pinotree | ... unless you don't make the panel have a full-width |
| 11:34.12 | Jucato | which is option #2 (or 3..) |
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| 11:34.29 | Jucato | I guess he wants the panels to look like gnome's :) |
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| 11:35.27 | kent\n | kdedevelopers.org registration form is hosed, the captcha's are not producing images -_- |
| 11:35.33 | deitarion | With many plasmoids, certain CMake variables were renamed and the build errors out with instructions on how to fix them. I haven't tried it though, so I'm not sure how easy they are to follow. I've been meaning to try it with the command entry one. |
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| 11:36.08 | deitarion | That is, between 4.1 and 4.2, the plasma "build API" changed and many plasmoids haven't been updated yet. |
| 11:36.09 | kent\n | "what code is in this image" : 'sorry, I have no idea there is no image' for some reason doesn't solve my problem |
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| 11:38.24 | junkY_San | hi, i'm using kde 4.2 and knetworkmanager |
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| 11:38.55 | kent\n | the /images_captcha/{numberhere} is returning a 500 Internal Server Error :( |
| 11:39.00 | junkY_San | the wlan scan lists my wlan, but i can't connect. there's no error visible, it's just not connecting |
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| 11:42.26 | junkY_San | oh sorry i'm giving wrong information. it's network-manager + kde what i'm using |
| 11:45.07 | yuking | can anyone give a suggest on a qt4-based irc client? |
| 11:45.39 | pusling | irssi in konsole ;) |
| 11:45.42 | pusling | oh. |
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| 11:47.35 | kent\n | yuking: KVirc |
| 11:47.35 | Ghabit | yuking: quassel is ok. |
| 11:47.44 | yuking | pusling, downloading,thanks |
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| 11:47.54 | Ghabit | It looks like konversation, and quite comfortable. |
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| 11:48.13 | yuking | Ghabit, I tried quassel, but I even didn't know how to use it |
| 11:48.26 | Ghabit | yuking: I can advice you if you want. |
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| 11:49.02 | kent\n | Kvirc will OD you with Options :) |
| 11:49.12 | yuking | Ghabit, I like konversation. |
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| 11:49.41 | Ghabit | yuking: I'll show you screenshot of quassel, wait a second. |
| 11:50.06 | yuking | Ghabit, thanks |
| 11:50.07 | Ghabit | Here it is http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5937/quasselxe3.png |
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| 11:50.51 | Ghabit | I have bad colors, but i think it is not important. |
| 11:51.04 | yuking | It looks nice |
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| 11:52.15 | robin0800 | Ghabit: quassel is ok but I wish it could put servers and channels as tabs to save space on a laptop |
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| 11:52.43 | serenity | hi |
| 11:53.02 | yuking | Ghabit, there are two files in the quassel's bin directory: quasselclient quasselcore |
| 11:53.28 | Ghabit | yuking: What distro are you using? |
| 11:53.43 | serenity | i want to register on kdedevelopers, but there is no captcha |
| 11:53.50 | yuking | Ghabit, I compiled it myself |
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| 11:54.30 | Ghabit | Fist you need to edit quassel config by adding your user to quasselcore config: QUASSEL_USER="ghabit" |
| 11:54.33 | Ghabit | for example. |
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| 11:54.45 | Ghabit | Then you have to start quasselcore as a daemon |
| 11:55.06 | Ghabit | That's all, after that you can use it. |
| 11:55.44 | Ghabit | Just enter your login and password and you will see a working client, just add network and servers you need. |
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| 11:56.14 | Ghabit | will be back soon. |
| 11:56.20 | Jucato | recommends taking the discussion to #quassel or #quassel-irc (which ever is quassel's channel) |
| 11:56.23 | uni4dfx | ok guys, help me debug kde4.2 ... it's constantly crashing |
| 11:56.36 | yuking | Oh, I gave up when it asked me the username and password. I'll try again |
| 11:56.55 | kent\n | serenity <-- has my problem |
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| 11:58.40 | annma | uni4dfx: doing what? |
| 11:58.50 | annma | uni4dfx: is it a new user? |
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| 11:59.00 | uni4dfx | it's randomly crashing |
| 11:59.05 | uni4dfx | for example if i open emesene |
| 11:59.11 | uni4dfx | or sometimes when i rightclick |
| 11:59.21 | annma | is it a new user? |
| 11:59.29 | annma | what distro? |
| 11:59.33 | uni4dfx | i've deleted ~/.kde if that's what you mean |
| 11:59.38 | uni4dfx | Kubuntu 8.10 |
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| 12:00.20 | uni4dfx | i'm using this repository: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu |
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| 12:00.24 | annma | I mean a new user, not deleted stuff |
| 12:00.31 | annma | I don't use KUbuntu |
| 12:00.39 | annma | so ask in their channel |
| 12:00.52 | uni4dfx | k |
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| 12:05.16 | seto | hi, I have switch from kde3.5.9 to kde4.2, and now, when I use kpowersave to suspend to ram, and wake up, it doesn't lock the screen .. is that normal ? |
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| 12:06.11 | knusperfrosch | seto: click on that power-thing in systray(guidance power manager) |
| 12:06.14 | knusperfrosch | first checkbox |
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| 12:07.55 | yuking | Ghabit, everything seems ok, but i can not log in freenode |
| 12:08.21 | Ghabit | yuking: Have you set up your nickname first? |
| 12:08.31 | seto | knusperfrosch: yes and ? |
| 12:08.33 | seto | same things |
| 12:08.37 | Ghabit | quassel doesn't rename you if your nickname is busy. |
| 12:08.38 | seto | doesnt works |
| 12:08.45 | Ghabit | And default quassel nickname is busy :) |
| 12:10.54 | knusperfrosch | seto: what about systemsettings->advanced->energy? |
| 12:11.06 | yuking | Yes, I set it. I can only see some lines of information. the last is [20:09:51] <FreeNode:Status Buffer:> *** No identd (auth) response |
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| 12:13.12 | yuking | Ghabit, the core says: Warning: Could not connect to FreeNode (The remote host closed the connection) |
| 12:13.45 | Ghabit | yuking: did you changed your nick? Different than yuking. |
| 12:14.39 | arkascha | Help with "kstart" required: I use "kstart --alldesktops --ontop kdetv" to start watching TV and all is great. Same when starting from the menu where the same sequence is defined. But when starting the same entry via a key shortcut the options are ignored. Why that ?!? |
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| 12:15.17 | Yuking-1 | Ghabit: Thanks. |
| 12:15.28 | uni4dfx | btw guys, why is the KDE system tray STILL broken? |
| 12:15.32 | Yuking-1 | I changed my name, it works |
| 12:15.45 | Ghabit | Yuking-1: I am happy to help you. |
| 12:15.54 | Yuking-1 | Ghabit: :) |
| 12:16.20 | annma | uni4dfx: it's not here |
| 12:16.39 | uni4dfx | dammit kubuntu fucking sux |
| 12:16.39 | seto | knusperfrosch: ok, I have restart kde, now it works |
| 12:16.40 | seto | thx |
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| 12:18.01 | tuxick | uni4dfx: sounds like kubuntu decided to provide kde4 ;p |
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| 12:19.05 | uni4dfx | kubuntu is the greatest mistake ever made in the opensource world |
| 12:19.08 | Yuking-1 | Ghabit: I like this irc client |
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| 12:19.33 | thiago | uni4dfx: it's not |
| 12:19.37 | thiago | you need to upgrade to Qt 4.5 though |
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| 12:20.10 | uni4dfx | thiago: ok fine, i'll do that right now |
| 12:20.30 | uni4dfx | but i seriously doubt it will help |
| 12:20.33 | thiago | which isn't released |
| 12:20.39 | thiago | define "broken" then |
| 12:20.50 | Ghabit | Yuking-1: It is only client I have found under qt4 and looks like I like. but it have some issues - I don't like to see everytime status buffers. |
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| 12:21.23 | uni4dfx | thaigo: 5 crashes in 5 minutes |
| 12:21.45 | thiago | oh? |
| 12:21.50 | Yuking-1 | Ghabit: I think this function is OK, because I have no too many channels |
| 12:21.52 | thiago | I haven't seen a crash even with 4.4 in months |
| 12:21.57 | uni4dfx | thaigo: that's 1 cpm (crash per minute) |
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| 12:22.10 | arkascha | uni4dfx: lol |
| 12:22.15 | Ghabit | Yuking-1: Same here :) |
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| 12:24.32 | uni4dfx | and don't even get me started on Ark, Adept and Firefox integration... |
| 12:24.40 | annma | thiago: why would KUbuntu work better with Qt4.5 when KDE ships Qt 4.4? |
| 12:24.55 | annma | and when Qt 4.5 is not even out |
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| 12:25.23 | tuxick | heh, kmail doesn't seem to like this 10k mails on imap |
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| 12:25.40 | tuxick | could be the server too of course |
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| 12:26.03 | tsb | What is the best card for kde4.2? Nvidia 260 or AMD/ATI 4870? |
| 12:26.14 | tuxick | *cough* |
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| 12:26.34 | tuxick | tsb: every since i started trying kde4 i've been having nvidia trouble |
| 12:26.41 | tuxick | but i heard it works for some |
| 12:27.10 | tuxick | probably depends on card or something |
| 12:27.22 | tsb | tuxick, right. I've read similar things. Also, since there will be a halfdescent foss driver in a year or so I guess there's that as well |
| 12:27.35 | tuxick | for nvidia??? |
| 12:27.41 | tsb | no, ati |
| 12:27.48 | tsb | as in, I'm leaning towards ati :) |
| 12:27.51 | tuxick | ah yes, they at least try |
| 12:28.03 | tuxick | anyway, with effects disabled i can even run kmail :p |
| 12:28.31 | uni4dfx | could running KDE from GDM be a problem? |
| 12:28.32 | tuxick | and horribly slow scrolling in konqueror doesn't seem to be an nvidia issue |
| 12:28.46 | tuxick | uni4dfx: i can't imagine, try it |
| 12:28.55 | tuxick | it sounds a bit odd |
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| 12:29.13 | tuxick | kubuntu defaults to gdm for kde?? |
| 12:30.40 | annma | uni4dfx: no |
| 12:30.41 | uni4dfx | no, i changed it |
| 12:30.52 | annma | you can run KDE from anything without that being a problem |
| 12:30.59 | uni4dfx | i had to go to gnome cuz kde4.1 was crashing at login |
| 12:31.20 | tuxick | what crashed? |
| 12:31.26 | kent\n | tuxick: nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 |
| 12:31.52 | tuxick | kent\n: sounds familiar |
| 12:31.52 | kent\n | that'll hopefully fix your speed issue |
| 12:31.52 | tuxick | i tried so many nvidia config options someone here called me mad |
| 12:32.06 | tuxick | kent\n: no, i'm having the same on a box with ati card |
| 12:32.14 | kent\n | oh O_o |
| 12:32.23 | uni4dfx | tixick: the entire xserver |
| 12:32.35 | tuxick | in fact i've been having occasional lag in konqueror i kind of got used to it |
| 12:32.37 | kent\n | then your probably using MESAgl |
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| 12:32.49 | tuxick | kent\n: nopes |
| 12:32.55 | tuxick | it's just konqueror acting up |
| 12:32.58 | kent\n | or something else shockingbad which is doing software rendering :/ |
| 12:32.58 | deitarion | annma: I didn't get caught up on my coursework, but I said I'd have a mockup today, so I do. Since it's a .xcf with a bunch of layers to show/hide the dropdown and switch between various befor/after stages, I was thinking of adding some expository layers and creating a MNG-based presentation in addition to the XCF and the proposed look PNGs. What do you think? |
| 12:33.09 | tuxick | even things like 'desktop cube' and other gl stuff works fine |
| 12:33.25 | kent\n | tuxick: xrender crap |
| 12:33.26 | tuxick | i just can't use the effects, starting kmail will kill my X |
| 12:33.32 | annma | deitarion: I don't think anything as the Desktop kcm crashes for me today in trunk |
| 12:33.48 | annma | I am fed up with it to be frank |
| 12:34.04 | tuxick | kent\n: really, tweaking xorg.conf and nvidia only led to marginal changes |
| 12:34.17 | deitarion | I know the feeling. I've been getting similar hassles from PyKDE lately. |
| 12:34.38 | tuxick | haha good old pykde4 |
| 12:34.48 | tuxick | some day it'll be fixed! |
| 12:34.59 | deitarion | I'd just use PyQt, but I need a phonon with support for subtitle and audio track switching. |
| 12:36.06 | deitarion | (I'm trying to build something that's essentially a minimal, file-oriented, LIRC-driven media player. Basically, a MythTV for someone who gets all his TV off BitTorrent and wants a program that requires little to no configuration) |
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| 12:37.06 | deitarion | ...but I watch a lot of anime and live foreign films, so I need audio track and subtitle control. |
| 12:37.19 | kent\n | holy shit, one of the test cases for strigi just allocated 150G of memory O_o |
| 12:37.30 | kent\n | I only *have* 4G |
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| 12:38.21 | deitarion | kent\n: What really surprises me is that Linux is so popular in business despite the ulimit memory limit system having been broken for years. |
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| 12:38.56 | annma | kent\n: what test? |
| 12:38.57 | kent\n | its not actually using it all, its just advisory allocs |
| 12:39.07 | deitarion | Exactly. |
| 12:39.19 | kent\n | strigi_build/src/streams/tests/testrunner-streams ArchiveReaderTest /tmp/portage/app-misc-strigi-9999/work/strigi-9999/testdata/data |
| 12:39.37 | annma | !!! |
| 12:39.47 | kent\n | Test timeout computed to be: 9.99988e+06 |
| 12:40.07 | kent\n | scracthes his head |
| 12:40.34 | annma | how do you run the test? |
| 12:41.07 | annma | I have no test to run in testdata build dir |
| 12:41.19 | annma | kent\n: how do you run it? |
| 12:41.33 | kent\n | its just ebuild'ded, so I can only guess |
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| 12:41.50 | annma | ? |
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| 12:41.55 | NeV3rKilL | hi |
| 12:42.04 | annma | tests are build in KDE if you enable the build but they are not run |
| 12:42.13 | annma | they are run when YOU run them |
| 12:42.13 | NeV3rKilL | why if i execute /usr/bin/konsole tells an kdeinit error ? |
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| 12:43.17 | cre | my esc-key doesn't work on kde4.2, anyone can help me? which infos do you need? |
| 12:43.39 | kent\n | annma: not quite, I just enable a global var under paludis which enables testsuites everywhere possible, and the ebuild recognises this and executes the nessecary steps in the build phase to execute tests prior to install |
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| 12:43.56 | annma | it executes all KDE tests? |
| 12:44.03 | annma | and what doe sit do when they fail? |
| 12:44.12 | kent\n | ctest --extra-verbose # appears to be the calling line |
| 12:44.19 | kent\n | it fails to install when I have tests enabled |
| 12:44.27 | annma | ? |
| 12:44.45 | kent\n | as in, if i tell it to perform tests, then the tests passing be come a criterion for installaiton |
| 12:44.59 | annma | and all KDE tests pass then? |
| 12:45.22 | annma | as far as I know there is always a percentage that fails |
| 12:45.35 | annma | so I am quite puzzled here |
| 12:45.44 | kent\n | not all, some others fail in places, I disable tests for specific packages when they fail so i can know to keep an eye on it |
| 12:45.54 | kent\n | but none fail quite as spectacularly as this |
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| 12:46.03 | annma | keep an eye on tests? |
| 12:46.20 | annma | wow |
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| 12:47.23 | kent\n | yeah, I can disable tests for a given package or given package version, or given categories of packages, so when newer versions appear in tree they automatically elect themselves for testing again |
| 12:48.25 | kent\n | cat /proc/12393/status | grep VmSize # VmSize: 167575280 kB |
| 12:48.33 | kent\n | its currently sig-stopped |
| 12:48.42 | annma | if you were able to tell me what test it is so I can run it |
| 12:48.50 | annma | I have all KDE source with tests build |
| 12:48.59 | annma | but I don't run all of them |
| 12:49.08 | kent\n | its specifically strigi, from svn |
| 12:49.15 | annma | I have it |
| 12:49.22 | annma | I'd like to know the exe |
| 12:49.29 | kent\n | 18/ 22 Testing ArchiveReaderTest |
| 12:49.47 | kent\n | all part of "ctest --extra-verbose" , which is part of cmake |
| 12:50.44 | annma | that doesnot matter fo rme |
| 12:50.50 | annma | I tun cmake to build tests |
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| 12:50.53 | annma | run |
| 12:51.03 | annma | so I just want to know the name of this test |
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| 12:52.32 | kent\n | ArchiveReaderTest appears to be the name it likes |
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| 12:55.12 | annma | I don't find a build test with that name |
| 12:55.39 | kent\n | ./src/streams/tests/CMakeLists.txt: ArchiveReaderTest.cpp |
| 12:55.48 | kent\n | ./src/streams/tests/ArchiveReaderTest.cpp:ArchiveReaderTest(int argc, char** argv) { |
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| 12:58.59 | annma | I can't find it build |
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| 12:59.38 | annma | I'll ask the Strigi devel about it |
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| 13:03.00 | kent\n | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/strigi/src/streams/tests/ |
| 13:03.18 | kent\n | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/strigi/src/streams/tests/ArchiveReaderTest.cpp?view=markup |
| 13:03.39 | kent\n | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/strigi/src/streams/tests/CMakeLists.txt?view=markup |
| 13:04.15 | annma | he is not doing it the KDE way |
| 13:05.06 | kent\n | that would be because kde use strigi, not the other way around |
| 13:05.16 | annma | I was looking in the build dir and it seems he installs them |
| 13:05.26 | annma | not sure |
| 13:05.34 | annma | then you would run the test from KDE |
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| 13:26.54 | firsm | and the kleopatra icon |
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| 13:29.56 | BeteNoire | hi |
| 13:30.30 | BeteNoire | how can i make konqueror open link from klipper in new tab? |
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| 13:32.38 | kent\n | konq settings |
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| 13:34.49 | BeteNoire | kent\n: that does not seem to work |
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| 13:35.18 | kent\n | oh? I thought there was some option that controlled where it put new things |
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| 13:49.43 | juanra | hi |
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| 14:00.23 | cow_2001 | i'm using kopete and sometimes when i open it i have no accounts set and it goes back to default settings |
| 14:00.45 | cow_2001 | right now whenever i open it i have no accounts, empty contact list and default settings |
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| 14:01.14 | cow_2001 | eyal: ×××? |
| 14:01.39 | eyal | ? |
| 14:02.02 | cow_2001 | eyal: uh... nvm, then |
| 14:02.08 | cow_2001 | eyal is an israeli name |
| 14:02.15 | cow_2001 | hebrew |
| 14:02.19 | eyal | cow_2001, you wrote in hebrew , lol i'm without the charset for this server |
| 14:02.28 | cow_2001 | oh! alrighty then |
| 14:02.36 | eyal | heh |
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| 14:02.51 | eyal | cow_2001, what is the charset? |
| 14:03.01 | cow_2001 | for me it's utf8 |
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| 14:03.37 | eyal | wired cuz in efnet the charset that i choose in xchat do the job |
| 14:03.51 | cow_2001 | i came here to solve some really really annoying thing kopete does |
| 14:04.05 | cow_2001 | eyal: efnet uses some other charset |
| 14:04.06 | eyal | let's see ,write in hebrew |
| 14:04.17 | cow_2001 | iso-whatever-8(-i) |
| 14:04.23 | cow_2001 | ×¢×ר×ת |
| 14:04.42 | eyal | ×¢×ש×× ×× × ×¨××× |
| 14:04.55 | cow_2001 | ^_^ |
| 14:05.02 | annma | utf8 |
| 14:05.09 | eyal | ×××× ××× ×§×× ×× ×× 4.2 ×× ×צ××× ××¢××× |
| 14:05.25 | cow_2001 | i'm using whatever intrepid has |
| 14:05.58 | eyal | ק××פ××ª× ×ת××× ×××××.. |
| 14:06.15 | cow_2001 | 4.1, "apt-cache show kde" says |
| 14:06.29 | eyal | cow_2001, which distro do you use? |
| 14:06.34 | eyal | ho debian? |
| 14:06.43 | cow_2001 | debian with sugar on top |
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| 14:07.01 | eyal | it's not should be showpkg |
| 14:07.05 | cow_2001 | brown sugar |
| 14:07.07 | eyal | or it's the same |
| 14:07.28 | eyal | i have debian lenny on my sister computer |
| 14:07.31 | eyal | i'm using gentoo |
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| 14:07.41 | Mr_Grieves| | Is it known that techbase is down? |
| 14:08.03 | mni | hi annma:) |
| 14:08.09 | annma | hi mni :) |
| 14:08.51 | cow_2001 | switched from gentoo due to diminishing sanity |
| 14:09.20 | eyal | i love gentoo , allways there is problem to solves :) |
| 14:09.25 | cow_2001 | and several hospitalizations... |
| 14:09.42 | eyal | do you use kde 4.2?? |
| 14:09.55 | Mr_Grieves| | Ah, it's back up. Slow, but up :) |
| 14:10.05 | cow_2001 | the cushioned room, i love that place |
| 14:10.15 | cow_2001 | eyal: i think it's some 4.1 |
| 14:11.08 | eyal | i compiled it last night, kwin crashing in every changes of the settings |
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| 14:11.08 | eyal | ho ok |
| 14:11.08 | cow_2001 | but i use wmii with only knetworkmanager, kwallet and kopete |
| 14:11.08 | eyal | 4.1 is much more stable |
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| 14:11.10 | cow_2001 | kwalletmanager |
| 14:11.26 | cow_2001 | kwalletmanager goes up whenever i open knetworkmanager or kopete |
| 14:11.30 | eyal | i don't like kopete not comftoble |
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| 14:11.44 | eyal | i'm using kmess |
| 14:11.49 | cow_2001 | right now kopete forgets about my settings every now and then |
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| 14:12.38 | eyal | cow_2001, where are you from in israel |
| 14:12.57 | eyal | your nick is familier you was hanging in linux.il in efnet? |
| 14:12.59 | cow_2001 | around kfar saba |
| 14:13.03 | cow_2001 | exactly |
| 14:13.05 | cre | my esc-key does not work in kde 4.2 on a german keyboard, can anybody help me? which infos should i post? |
| 14:13.13 | eyal | i was hanging there years ago |
| 14:13.13 | cow_2001 | i think we met on aug penguin III |
| 14:13.28 | eyal | my nick was geek |
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| 14:13.36 | eyal | i'm good freind of nicko |
| 14:13.44 | cow_2001 | i remember some eyal |
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| 14:13.55 | cow_2001 | did you go to aug penguin III? |
| 14:13.57 | eyal | do you know nicko? |
| 14:14.06 | cow_2001 | i vaguely remember him |
| 14:14.15 | cow_2001 | aren't we offtopic? |
| 14:14.18 | eyal | i was on som aig penguing, don't remeber which |
| 14:14.22 | cow_2001 | there's #israel |
| 14:14.46 | eyal | his nick was aliases |
| 14:14.51 | cow_2001 | it was in this huge cinema complex |
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| 14:16.56 | Frantic225 | guys, can someone tell me the name of the effect that is default in KDE4 when moving the mouse to the top-left corner? it's the equivalent of the mac expose, but I can't find it in the keybindings menu or google :) |
| 14:17.40 | Jucato | Frantic225: Present Windows |
| 14:18.07 | eyal | Frantic225, go in system settings |
| 14:18.30 | eyal | go there into desktop |
| 14:18.40 | eyal | you can configure it there |
| 14:18.57 | eyal | if you are on 4.2 you can configure the other corners also |
| 14:19.02 | Frantic225 | thx :) |
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| 14:20.17 | tuxick | kde lost keyboard again |
| 14:21.14 | tuxick | i've had this happen on 2 totally different systems |
| 14:21.23 | tuxick | both amd64 gentoo though |
| 14:21.44 | tuxick | both kde4.x |
| 14:21.50 | mni | annma: I was very busy on the conference arrangemnts,but i have been trying to mail u |
| 14:21.50 | mni | i have mailed MADRIVA but there is no response |
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| 14:22.34 | annma | I got no mail from you mni |
| 14:22.41 | knusperfrosch | tuxick: go to systemsetings->accessibility and disable everything |
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| 14:23.03 | mni | annma:any idea? |
| 14:23.21 | knusperfrosch | tuxick: i had this quite often until i disabled that accessibility stuff (no idea why this is enabled by default) |
| 14:23.39 | annma | mni: who did you mail? |
| 14:23.52 | tuxick | knusperfrosch: almost nothing was enabled, just gestures |
| 14:24.01 | tuxick | but i'll see if this helps |
| 14:24.08 | tuxick | in that case there's something to report |
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| 14:25.04 | knusperfrosch | tuxick: must have been the gesture for sticky and slow keys, since i sometimes saw that it helps pressing a key for more than a second. |
| 14:25.22 | knusperfrosch | tuxick: but sometimes the keyboard just did nothing |
| 14:25.30 | mni | annma:vannessa wall |
| 14:26.24 | annma | mni: did they give you taht name in a Mandriva channel? |
| 14:26.47 | don_martino_ | hi! i want to use kde 4.2 on gentoo. install works finde, but kde won't start properly. this is the output frim start kde: http://rafb.net/p/Ab11vR59.html i don't know what to make out of all that. can somebody tell me what's wrong with my kde installation? |
| 14:27.10 | tuxick | knusperfrosch: come to think of it, i've seen konq go mad on keeping ctrl pressed before |
| 14:27.19 | tuxick | those nice little numbers wouldn't go away etc |
| 14:27.27 | cow_2001 | kopete crashes whenever i load my gtalk account |
| 14:27.43 | mni | annma;yes |
| 14:27.59 | annma | ok so she'll answer probably, when did you write? |
| 14:28.06 | knusperfrosch | cow_2001: => #kopete |
| 14:28.36 | cow_2001 | oh! thanks! |
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| 14:29.18 | mni | annma:on friday |
| 14:29.31 | annma | so wait a little more |
| 14:29.43 | annma | then it was week-end and today there is snow in Paris |
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| 14:31.18 | mni | for us here is sunny day |
| 14:31.23 | annma | hehe :) |
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| 15:12.39 | jagadeesh | whats the good software for syncing symbianphone data? |
| 15:13.05 | shaunr | How do I add other files to a cd, like a readme, a patch executable, but I also need to burn a cd image to the same cd... |
| 15:13.28 | Duesentrieb | hi all. I'm setting up kde 4 for the first time (4.1, via kubuntu 8-10), and i'm confused about knetworkmanager. |
| 15:13.41 | Duesentrieb | it fails to connect to the wireless - and never even asks for a passphrase |
| 15:14.02 | Duesentrieb | i pick the network, it sits there saying something about "configuring", and then it fails. what am i missing? |
| 15:14.06 | freeedrich| | Duesentrieb: kde4.1/4.2 don't ship with networkmanager support (for wlan) |
| 15:14.10 | freeedrich| | ask your distribution about it. |
| 15:14.14 | freeedrich| | Duesentrieb: #kubuntu |
| 15:14.42 | Duesentrieb | it doesn't?... that's... odd. but ok, i'll ask there. |
| 15:15.11 | freeedrich| | shaunr: Well. If you put the image as a binary on the disk, you can put the readme together with it. But if you want to burn the image, the stuff needs to make part of the image. |
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| 15:15.36 | freeedrich| | shaunr: Since the image is just the combination and order of "0001001000100011100100011" |
| 15:16.04 | shaunr | freeedrich|: yeah, but if I do just put the image as a binary, it won't be able to autorun will it? |
| 15:16.36 | shaunr | so...k3b doesn't support iso editting does it? Is there a good OSS program that does (preferably kde)? |
| 15:17.09 | freeedrich| | shaunr: No, it won't be able to. |
| 15:18.26 | shaunr | freeedrich|: any program that you could recommend |
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| 15:20.23 | haplo2k9 | would KIso work? for iso editing? |
| 15:20.26 | freeedrich| | shaunr: can't you mount it on your loopback device and copy the files in there? |
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| 15:24.37 | shaunr | freeedrich|: loopback device? |
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| 15:28.30 | luke-jr | shaunr: it is impossible to edit an ISO |
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| 15:28.48 | shaunr | oh :) |
| 15:28.55 | luke-jr | ISO is a write-once format |
| 15:28.56 | GraveDigger | yeah well, depends on what one calls "impossible" and/or "edit" |
| 15:28.58 | freeedrich| | shaunr: mount -o loop I believe |
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| 15:29.12 | freeedrich| | shaunr: just read mount's manpage |
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| 15:29.18 | luke-jr | GraveDigger: true, you could always try to remake the ISO with almost-the-same data |
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| 15:29.29 | GraveDigger | luke-jr: or do the evil hexedit stuff |
| 15:29.30 | GraveDigger | :P |
| 15:29.31 | shaunr | freeedrich|: how would that help me? |
| 15:29.32 | luke-jr | freeedrich|: that isn't going to work |
| 15:29.49 | luke-jr | GraveDigger: that assumes the files don't change size and don't use any kind of compression (hard links) |
| 15:29.57 | GraveDigger | luke-jr: that assumes you get the joke |
| 15:29.58 | GraveDigger | xD |
| 15:30.10 | GraveDigger | luke-jr: nevermind :) |
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| 15:31.11 | shaunr | really? you can't edit a .iso file? It isn't burnt to a cd or anything.. |
| 15:31.15 | chakie | hm, konqueror says that the shortcut Ctrl-f is ambiguous and that i should reconfigure shortcuts through settings |
| 15:31.20 | shaunr | I thought for sure I remembered something like that, that I did.. |
| 15:31.25 | luke-jr | shaunr: the format is write-once |
| 15:31.25 | chakie | however, no other shortcut used ctrl-f |
| 15:31.33 | chakie | so what should i do then? |
| 15:31.34 | GraveDigger | shaunr: you can extract its contents, alter them and remaster a new iso file with the new contents |
| 15:31.35 | luke-jr | chakie: yeah, that's annoying |
| 15:31.43 | chakie | luke-jr: known? |
| 15:31.45 | GraveDigger | shaunr: but generally luke-jr is right, its write-once, read-only |
| 15:31.54 | shaunr | intresting |
| 15:32.06 | luke-jr | shaunr: think of ISO as if it was 'tar' ;) |
| 15:32.11 | luke-jr | but with an index |
| 15:32.19 | chakie | fsck, is f3 too ambiguous? |
| 15:32.39 | chakie | konqueror has a few mighty regressions in 4.2 compared to 4.2rc1 |
| 15:32.47 | luke-jr | 4.2rc1 had that problemt oo |
| 15:32.56 | chakie | i didn't see it |
| 15:33.03 | Jucato | chakie: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Standard Keyboard Shortcuts |
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| 15:33.24 | Jucato | Ctrl+F and F3 are set there globally |
| 15:33.36 | chakie | Jucato: to the same actions? |
| 15:33.47 | Jucato | Find and Find Next |
| 15:33.57 | chakie | i don't see the problem? |
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| 15:34.08 | chakie | means konqueror should not have them or? |
| 15:34.20 | luke-jr | Jucato: so why do Find and Find Next have double configs? |
| 15:34.22 | Jucato | means all kde apps have them by default |
| 15:34.41 | Jucato | when is it saying that the shortcut is ambiguous? what are you trying to do? |
| 15:34.41 | chakie | hm, all the "standard" shortcuts are in a group called "unknown" |
| 15:34.45 | chakie | doesn't look right |
| 15:35.01 | chakie | i press c-f in konqueror |
| 15:35.03 | madelaki | KDE is bloated. |
| 15:35.08 | chakie | then i tried / which worked fine |
| 15:35.12 | chakie | but f3 triggered the same |
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| 15:35.34 | Jucato | chakie: when you press Ctrl+F in konqueror, it says the shortcut is ambiguous? |
| 15:35.37 | chakie | so i have no search from the keyboard. i can't be arsed to activate a menu to find something, i search *all* the time |
| 15:35.42 | chakie | Jucato: yes |
| 15:35.51 | shaunr | luke-jr: add files to ISO? http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-isoeditor.htm |
| 15:35.52 | Jucato | strange, I don't have that |
| 15:35.56 | chakie | Jucato: same for f3 after a "/" search |
| 15:36.04 | luke-jr | Jucato: I don't anymore either. |
| 15:36.06 | luke-jr | I did in RC 1 |
| 15:36.32 | Jucato | 4.2 final here. |
| 15:36.41 | luke-jr | yeah, upgrading to final fixed it for me |
| 15:36.42 | chakie | i'm using kubuntu packages of 4.2.0, so it could be related to that |
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| 15:36.59 | Jucato | perhaps, best to ask #kubuntu users |
| 15:37.07 | chakie | perhaps |
| 15:37.11 | chakie | for now i'll use firefox |
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| 15:37.19 | lmm | is there any way to force plasma to "refresh"? |
| 15:37.21 | chakie | thanks for the help though |
| 15:37.38 | Jucato | lmm: Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
| 15:37.41 | luke-jr | ew, firefox |
| 15:37.44 | lmm | my plasma stuff appears to have frozen how it looked as of four hours ago |
| 15:37.45 | lmm | thanks |
| 15:37.47 | Jucato | (quit plasma and restart plasma) |
| 15:37.50 | luke-jr | stabs Gentoo for not having FireFox with USE=qt4 yet |
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| 15:38.04 | lmm | that didn't restart it |
| 15:38.07 | lusum | hi |
| 15:38.16 | lmm | but I can do so manually |
| 15:38.17 | olskolirc | Can someone explain to me kde for windows from this site? http://www.windows.kde.org/ Does this mean that windows users will be able to install kde 4.2 and use their own windows filesystem but just using the kde interface? |
| 15:38.23 | lusum | how to disable/remove nepomukserver? |
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| 15:38.51 | GraveDigger | lusum: systemsettings -> advanced -> semantic desktop -> disable it all in there |
| 15:39.09 | GraveDigger | lusum: removal is tough since its a runtime dependency |
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| 15:39.16 | shaunr | olskolirc: you will be able to use KDE apps, if that's what you mean |
| 15:39.21 | Jucato | olskolirc: it means you'll be able to install *some* KDE apps on windows. everything underneath stays the same. and not all KDE apps (KWin for example) |
| 15:39.27 | lmm | olskolirc: I think the main use is to have the usual windows interface (and of course the usual windows filesystem etc.), but just run kde programs |
| 15:39.33 | Jucato | lusum: ask in #kde-windows for more information |
| 15:39.34 | lusum | GraveDigger: thanks |
| 15:39.40 | luke-jr | Jucato: AFAIK, KWin was ported.. |
| 15:39.42 | lusum | Jucato: done |
| 15:39.44 | Jucato | er.. sorry lusum |
| 15:39.53 | Jucato | olskolirc: ask in #kde-windows for more information |
| 15:40.12 | luke-jr | or maybe that was Plasma |
| 15:40.23 | Jucato | most likely plasma |
| 15:40.30 | SSJ_GZ | luke-jr: Plasma is partly working on Windows, yes. |
| 15:40.31 | lusum | GraveDigger: consume too much cpu and memory... like slocate, i hate too much heavy services... |
| 15:40.32 | Jucato | KWin is too X-dependent |
| 15:40.45 | GraveDigger | lusum: whatever |
| 15:40.48 | GraveDigger | lusum: i dont care |
| 15:40.59 | olskolirc | ok thanks Jucato lmm shaunr |
| 15:41.05 | shaunr | yw |
| 15:41.12 | GraveDigger | lusum: and besides: i dont use it, too |
| 15:41.20 | lusum | GraveDigger: :) |
| 15:41.34 | lusum | GraveDigger: seem cool, but too much resource consuming... |
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| 15:44.21 | lusum | thanks to all |
| 15:44.24 | lusum | bye |
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| 15:48.46 | nashk | Hi, I just loaded 4.2 to my laptop and connected a second monitor to it. In the system setings, how can I make both my monitors one big desktop? |
| 15:49.00 | nashk | right now they're duplicates. Mouse moves on both |
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| 15:51.42 | thiago | nashk: NVidia card? |
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| 15:51.50 | nashk | ati RAdeon |
| 15:52.09 | nashk | thiago: ATI Radeon. |
| 15:52.20 | thiago | use ati-config |
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| 15:52.38 | nashk | thiago: I tried, but there is no xorg.con in my /etc |
| 15:52.43 | nashk | it needs a template |
| 15:52.55 | thiago | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 15:53.32 | nashk | It's like my Xorg is loaded dynamically. |
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| 16:03.26 | silv3r_m00n | hi there |
| 16:03.50 | silv3r_m00n | I am using ubuntu and in KDE when the numpad active then numpad-led off and vice versa |
| 16:03.54 | silv3r_m00n | how to fix this |
| 16:04.29 | pthomas | anyone hear when fedora 9 will get 4.2? |
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| 16:04.44 | annma | silv3r_m00n: hmm I thought that was fixed |
| 16:05.12 | annma | how to fix this is fix the stupid code which is not a piece of cake |
| 16:05.26 | annma | pthomas: #fedora |
| 16:06.02 | Half-Left | pthomas: Not to do with KDE but they wont unless someone builds packages for it, officially is never will |
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| 16:06.12 | Half-Left | it* |
| 16:06.43 | annma | never? they won't package KDE at all? |
| 16:06.55 | Half-Left | No, only their default |
| 16:07.12 | Half-Left | They only upgrade to bug fix versions |
| 16:07.52 | robbmunson | guys, 4.2 is coming to fedora, but like annma said this wont be the correct room to talk about it ;) |
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| 16:08.11 | Half-Left | i.e if Fedora9 comes with 4.0 they only ever get 4.0.x, new fedora releases get new KDE4, pretty much like most distros work |
| 16:08.13 | robbmunson | either go to #fedora-kde or #kde-chat :) |
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| 16:08.49 | silv3r_m001 | annma: here the problem is there |
| 16:08.53 | silv3r_m001 | ubuntu 8.04 KDE 3.5 |
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| 16:09.10 | Half-Left | Yes I know, just answering the question because it's a general way most distros work with KDE releases |
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| 16:09.15 | annma | silv3r_m001: yes |
| 16:09.27 | annma | I was on it at some point but could not fix it |
| 16:09.38 | silv3r_m001 | annma: so what can I do ? |
| 16:10.00 | annma | when you switch on and off numlock, doesn't it set it right? |
| 16:10.36 | silv3r_m001 | nope |
| 16:10.42 | silv3r_m001 | the led indicates the reverse |
| 16:10.43 | silv3r_m001 | always |
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| 16:11.08 | FL1SK | 4.2 looks great so far |
| 16:11.10 | FL1SK | ;) |
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| 16:11.27 | annma | hmmm how do I numlock on this laptop |
| 16:11.28 | BeteNoire | is there an kde app that i can invoke with key shortcut in *any* place od environment to display kmenu? |
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| 16:13.37 | silv3r_m001 | annma: if the laptop has a numpad at all |
| 16:13.57 | MinceR | even numpad-less laptops tend to have numlock |
| 16:14.17 | MinceR | mine has a bios setting to make it lock fn (at least for the "numpad" part) |
| 16:14.25 | annma | it ahs |
| 16:14.27 | annma | has |
| 16:14.30 | nashk | Afgter updating to 4.2 my dual head setup isn't working right. Now, when I maximize a window on the second display, it goes to the primary display and maximizes instaed of staying on the first one. |
| 16:14.37 | nashk | Any ideas? |
| 16:15.40 | knusperfrosch | nashk: dualhead seems to be quite a problem. F11 on konqueror crashes X here :/ |
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| 16:16.55 | annma | 23 |
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| 16:17.15 | nashk | knusperfrosch: Yeah, although all was great in 4.1.4 |
| 16:17.24 | nashk | I thought 4.2 was an improvement. |
| 16:17.26 | annma | it workds here is numpad is not "on" at start |
| 16:17.34 | annma | silv3r_m001: ^^ |
| 16:17.38 | nashk | Maybe it's a tweak in the xorg.conf |
| 16:17.39 | nashk | not sure |
| 16:17.41 | annma | I don't use kdm though |
| 16:17.47 | annma | silv3r_m001: do you use kdm? |
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| 16:18.00 | silv3r_m001 | annma: no |
| 16:18.01 | silv3r_m001 | gdm |
| 16:18.06 | knusperfrosch | nashk: hmm kwin crashed on xrandr --output VGA --auto --left-of LVDS. this doesn't happen anymore |
| 16:18.18 | silv3r_m001 | ubuntu had genome and i installed kde from synaptoc |
| 16:18.22 | silv3r_m001 | synaptic* |
| 16:18.31 | knusperfrosch | nashk: using intel hardware with "virtual" in xorg.conf |
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| 16:21.25 | de | hi |
| 16:21.45 | de | anyone wanna chat with me |
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| 16:30.59 | estan | hm. anyone else have the problem when using two rows in the task manager, the fonts are cut off unless you make the whole panel really huge? |
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| 16:32.40 | estan | this is how big i have to make it; http://dose.se/panel.png |
| 16:32.52 | estan | the font seems to not scale correctly when the panel is smaller, so the window titles won't fit. |
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| 16:34.08 | Half-Left | estan: Looks liek they fade out more than cut off |
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| 16:35.23 | estan | Half-Left: sorry, i'll make another screenshot.. the cutoff i'm talking about is not in that one. |
| 16:35.34 | estan | that only showed how big i have to make it for it to not cut off. |
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| 16:36.29 | estan | http://dose.se/panel-cutoff.png |
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| 16:37.18 | estan | anyone else see this? |
| 16:38.30 | estan | ah hrm.. i set the taskbar font size manually in systemsettings.. |
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| 16:38.52 | estan | would be nice if the font scaled when the panel was resized though. |
| 16:39.57 | estan | hm.. now i have this weird behavior where one of the taskbar rows is higher than the other.. |
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| 16:43.34 | Frantic | is it a known bug that krunner sometimes doesn't start the selected action when pressing enter? :) |
| 16:43.35 | estan | ok. kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop seemed to fix that. |
| 16:44.27 | thinkgnu | is there another way for changing wallpaper than Desktop Settings ? |
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| 16:45.15 | annma | other than config dialog? |
| 16:45.23 | thinkgnu | yes |
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| 16:46.08 | thinkgnu | in kde3 it was possible to drop pictures to dekstop , or from picture viewers , but in kde4 .. ? |
| 16:46.17 | annma | probably we'll add a service to drag a pic from Dolphin and set it as wallpaper |
| 16:46.23 | annma | see |
| 16:46.34 | annma | Rome was not built in 3 days thinkgnu |
| 16:46.42 | thinkgnu | sure ;) |
| 16:46.51 | annma | if KDE 4 already had it all it would be version 4.5 directly |
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| 16:46.55 | annma | ;) |
| 16:47.02 | GraveDigger | :) |
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| 16:47.09 | annma | should be a Junior Job in fact |
| 16:47.28 | annma | thinkgnu: you can add it on the bug database as wish |
| 16:47.32 | thinkgnu | it's better to just right click in pictures and set as background , better than drag on drop |
| 16:47.38 | thinkgnu | oh! ok |
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| 16:49.23 | euzao | hi |
| 16:49.43 | euzao | how do I disable this annoying bumping icon that starts everytime I open an application? |
| 16:50.10 | GraveDigger | euzao: search for startup notification in system settings |
| 16:51.14 | Half-Left | euzao: systemsettings>Desktop>Launch Feedback |
| 16:52.01 | euzao | I'm using KDE3 |
| 16:52.14 | Half-Left | ahh |
| 16:52.52 | GraveDigger | doesn't remember anymore :( |
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| 16:53.22 | Half-Left | Kcontrol somewhere |
| 16:53.40 | tsb | with kwin in kde4.2, is it possible to unclutter windows? tile them up etc? |
| 16:55.16 | tsb | (if not, is that something which is planned?) |
| 16:55.46 | euzao | everytime I try to configure KDE |
| 16:55.50 | euzao | KDE printer |
| 16:55.55 | euzao | I get this "/tmp/4987258600fab(linha 2):syntax error, unexpected QUOTED" |
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| 16:56.23 | nashk | Plasma Dashboard initialization is slow. I have an ati card and it take about 6 seconds to show the dashboard. |
| 16:56.45 | Half-Left | tsb: You should play with the Window behavior settings |
| 16:56.45 | nashk | Any idea why this is happening? I know it has to do with ati fglrx ebcause when I disable it, it works fine. |
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| 16:57.03 | nashk | So wondering if there's some setting in the xorg.conf that might affect this |
| 16:57.49 | Half-Left | nashk: Most lightly your missing some acceleration setting |
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| 16:57.59 | nashk | hmm |
| 16:58.15 | nashk | any idea how I can look at those settings? |
| 16:58.38 | Half-Left | google at EXA and XAA |
| 16:58.44 | Half-Left | ati* |
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| 16:59.46 | tsb | Half-Left, right, but there's no "unclutter" functionality there. Like if I had 4 firefox windows open (like now), all maximized, I'd like to be able to hit a shortcut and have all of them take 25% each, in each corner for example |
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| 17:01.42 | euzao | hi |
| 17:01.45 | euzao | everytime I try to configure my printer |
| 17:01.49 | euzao | I get this |
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| 17:01.56 | euzao | /tmp/498726c18f7bc(line 31):syntax error, unexpected ':' |
| 17:01.59 | euzao | what is that? |
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| 17:02.39 | tsb | Half-Left, however, I found "show content while resizing" there, which is nice because now I disabled it and resizing is MUCH faster. :) |
| 17:03.02 | Guest35986 | HI MICHAEL JACKSON |
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| 17:03.34 | Half-Left | tsb: haha, not sure about it but I seen loads of options in there |
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| 17:06.28 | Pretinho | Hello are you so gay _ |
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| 17:07.17 | *** kick/#kde [Pretinho!n=annma@kde/annma] by annma (User terminated!) |
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| 17:07.36 | Half-Left | wishes annma or pinotree would give me super powers as well |
| 17:07.51 | annma | not sure I can |
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| 17:08.05 | Half-Left | hehe, no worries |
| 17:08.06 | annma | there are weird people around today |
| 17:08.45 | Half-Left | Yer, mostly at night when I notice |
| 17:09.07 | annma | tonight they are n=liveuser@195.23.248.239 (Live System User) |
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| 17:10.30 | Half-Left | haha ^ |
| 17:10.40 | Malheiro | cabe;as de porco |
| 17:10.47 | End_in_2012 | gay de merda |
| 17:10.52 | End_in_2012 | boi |
| 17:10.55 | End_in_2012 | calou |
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| 17:11.11 | gostoso_safado | o malheiro e paneleiro |
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| 17:11.22 | *** kick/#kde [gostoso_safado!n=annma@kde/annma] by annma (User terminated!) |
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| 17:11.35 | annma | can we ban this host? |
| 17:11.38 | annma | OK |
| 17:11.50 | GraveDigger | yeah, troll time |
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| 17:12.07 | GraveDigger | has got some ><((°> left tho |
| 17:12.08 | GraveDigger | =) |
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| 17:12.27 | ath_ | anyone know why kdevelop-3.9.85 doesn't have the c++ console project templates? o: |
| 17:12.33 | Ace2016_- | Jucato: remember kquitapp plasma && plasma? it doesn't seem to work anymore in kde4.2, now i also have to switch to different theme and switch back, its making it harder to fine tune the theme, is there an new way to update the theme? |
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| 17:16.23 | Ace2016_- | just to make it clear i have to run kquitapp plasma & sleep 1 && plasma then reopen settings and pick a different theme and switch back to see the changes |
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| 17:18.48 | Half-Left | Ace2016_-: Deleting the cache can help in .kde/cache-"myhostname"/kpc |
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| 17:20.36 | euzao | KDE printer is problematic with hplip |
| 17:20.38 | euzao | isn't it? |
| 17:20.43 | drzz | in which file are the kwin settings stored? |
| 17:20.54 | Ace2016_- | kwinrc |
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| 17:21.54 | Ace2016_- | drzz: in .kde4/share/config/ |
| 17:22.34 | Half-Left | euzao: My HP works fine |
| 17:22.47 | euzao | with KDE 3? |
| 17:22.52 | Ace2016_- | Half-Left: guess i have to logout or possibly restart for icon settings to apply |
| 17:23.09 | Half-Left | Not restart the OS no |
| 17:23.21 | Half-Left | euzao: No 4.2 |
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| 17:24.13 | gergap | It would be great if the krunner dialog would show the path of found files in the tooltip. That would it make easier to distinguish different version of the same file in different locations. Also a menu "Open Location..." in the context menu would be great. Would this be much effort to implement or is this information available anyway? |
| 17:24.32 | Ace2016_- | Half-Left: system settings > appearance > icons > advanced > panel icons, i've changed the effect and it doesn't seem to be working |
| 17:24.52 | Ace2016_- | brb |
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| 17:25.31 | Ace2016_- | i'll wait till my download finishes |
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| 17:25.40 | Half-Left | They apply ok here |
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| 17:26.44 | Half-Left | Ace2016_-: The actual panel icons? |
| 17:26.51 | Ace2016_- | yea |
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| 17:27.02 | Half-Left | You should use Desktop |
| 17:27.10 | Ace2016_- | the icons for the applications in the taskbar |
| 17:27.11 | Half-Left | because plasma IS desktop |
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| 17:27.20 | Ace2016_- | the Task Manager |
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| 17:28.39 | Ace2016_- | is it possible to get rid of those icons altogether or make them smaller? |
| 17:29.31 | Half-Left | Not sure, but you can play with the task manager settings |
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| 17:41.35 | cumulus007 | Where does KDE store it's KIO Protocols? |
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| 17:42.04 | Rehto | in KDE 4.2 how do I access login manager as root? |
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| 17:42.38 | Rehto | I'm using Arch Linux |
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| 17:44.38 | Rehto | oh wait do I need to login as root?-) never thought of that :D |
| 17:44.59 | Rehto | been pondering that awhile and now it hits me :D |
| 17:45.22 | Rehto | how stupid of me |
| 17:46.04 | mren | every now and then kde 4.2 (gentoo) lose the keyboard, then it dowsn't take any input from it, but e. g. ctrl-alt-f2 still is working -- any idea? |
| 17:46.39 | Rehto | it doesn't allow root logins with kde.. great |
| 17:46.49 | untitled_ | hello. I notised a strange bug, it was in 4.1.x and still is in 4.2, suddenly screen splits into 2 parts, where left part is actyally right part of the desktop and vice versa |
| 17:47.07 | cumulus007 | I thing it's a bug of your driver, untitled_ |
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| 17:47.54 | untitled_ | cumulus007: I thought so too, but I changed like 3 drivers by time and gub didn't disappear |
| 17:48.08 | untitled_ | bug* |
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| 17:48.50 | Rehto | cumulus007: I can't find a way how to enable root access to the login manager (System Settings --> Advanced --> Login manager) |
| 17:49.06 | Rehto | is there some CLI shortcut for it |
| 17:49.15 | cumulus007 | Rehto: you can allow and disallow every user from logging in |
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| 17:49.33 | untitled_ | it usually comes when I start okular, but not every time |
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| 17:57.01 | Rehto | nvm I ran kde as root from cli and changed what I needed to change |
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| 17:59.37 | Tanktalus | Can I turn off the FollowUp-To header in knode? (Running 4.2.0) |
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| 18:12.58 | Sput | hmm... is there a way to kill KDE's icon cache? |
| 18:13.02 | Sput | get some strange issues here |
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| 18:13.14 | Sput | s/kill/flush/ |
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| 18:14.08 | sandGorgon | pinotree: hey.. im the guy who managed to crash okular and file that bug. i have it reproduced... could u tell me how to give you more info ? |
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| 18:17.26 | Sput | thanks :) |
| 18:20.50 | thinkgnu | seems here ~/.icons |
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| 18:22.33 | ronino | when quoting an e-mail in KMail of 4.2, KMail just uses ">> " for the second level rather than "> > " as configured with quoting sign >%_, anyone who can confirm that? |
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| 18:23.36 | NeV3rKilL | hi |
| 18:23.54 | NeV3rKilL | why Juk autostops songs when it wants ? |
| 18:23.55 | Kollapse | Hi. I have a strange yet presumably popular problem with kde 3.5.10 Whenever I change a theme or run kbuildsycoca, the system tray icons get snapped out as windows |
| 18:24.03 | NeV3rKilL | amarok2 does the same :( |
| 18:24.05 | knusperfrosch | ronino: hmm kmail removes the second level anyways |
| 18:24.55 | ronino | knusperfrosch: how do you mean that? |
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| 18:25.22 | knusperfrosch | ronino: kmail removes the quoted text from the message i quote |
| 18:25.29 | ronino | just found out that the wrong indentation is only used when choosing "insert quotation marks" from the menu (or what it's in English) |
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| 18:25.53 | ronino | knusperfrosch: hmm, maybe that has to do with mail templates |
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| 18:26.49 | knusperfrosch | ronino: right, i use %QUOTE |
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| 18:28.49 | knusperfrosch | got it, kmail ignores quoted text below the signature |
| 18:29.52 | knusperfrosch | ronino: selected the complete text of the message and got "> > " (kde 4.2) |
| 18:30.40 | ronino | knusperfrosch: with choosing the indentatino from the menu? |
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| 18:31.28 | knusperfrosch | ronino: >%_ |
| 18:31.47 | thiago_home | knusperfrosch: kmail stops the message at the dash-dash-space |
| 18:31.54 | thiago_home | like any other good email client |
| 18:32.32 | ronino | knusperfrosch: yeah, I have >%_, too, I just meant whether you choose "insert quotation marks" from the menu to indent |
| 18:32.44 | ronino | knusperfrosch: that's what not works for me |
| 18:33.30 | knusperfrosch | thiago_home: right that's what i just noticed. so OTRS (some ticket system) generates crap. |
| 18:34.03 | phorsyon | ronino: looks like a bug. i have the same problem, while the quotation marks get set correctly if I reply a mail. |
| 18:34.16 | ronino | phorsyon: yeah, exactly |
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| 18:34.44 | ronino | so I'll file a bug report if there is none yet |
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| 18:35.53 | knusperfrosch | ronino: don't know what to choose, just hit reply |
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| 18:37.02 | phorsyon | ronino: plz post the bug id so i can vote for it ;-) |
| 18:37.13 | ronino | knusperfrosch: choose reply for a given mail, an editor opens, then select some (maybe already quoted) text and choose the second to last entry in the "edit" menu, must be something like "add quotation marks" or so |
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| 18:37.26 | ronino | knusperfrosch: then the indentation is made like >> not > > as wanted |
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| 18:38.07 | knusperfrosch | ronino: ack, bug ;) |
| 18:38.18 | ronino | knusperfrosch: hehe |
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| 18:38.22 | phorsyon | hehe |
| 18:38.43 | Speeder | how I make konversation stop joining this channel auto? |
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| 18:40.26 | pinotree | Speeder: configure it? |
| 18:40.36 | phorsyon | Speeder: remove it from autoconnect dialog at startup |
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| 18:43.24 | ronino | phorsyon, knusperfrosch: do you by chance have the english version of the "add quotation marks" menu item? I'm on German here... |
| 18:43.48 | phorsyon | wait a sec |
| 18:44.11 | phorsyon | ronino: Add Quote Characters |
| 18:44.21 | ronino | phorsyon: thx |
| 18:44.37 | phorsyon | np |
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| 18:46.29 | knusperfrosch | ronino: so am i. |
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| 18:49.57 | PuffTheMagic | how come kspread cant open csv files? |
| 18:50.19 | PuffTheMagic | isnt that one of the most basic and expected functions of a speadsheet app? |
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| 18:52.23 | estan | hm.. how is the manual grouping of tasks in the task manager supposed to work? |
| 18:52.25 | phorsyon | according to wikipedia csv is supported. |
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| 18:52.34 | estan | i'm trying to drag one task to another to group them, but nothing happens. |
| 18:55.18 | estan | ah, alt+drag. |
| 18:55.39 | estan | hm.. |
| 18:56.09 | estan | but that creates groups named "Group1", "Group2" etc.. and with an "unknown" icon.. |
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| 18:56.18 | devurandom | Hello! |
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| 18:56.38 | estan | would be nice if it could work the way "Group By Name" works when manually grouping tasks with the same common name.. |
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| 18:57.55 | devurandom | I have enabled ~"desktop effects" in systemsettings and set ~"effect for window change" to ~"show window" (for example), but when pressing alt+tab kde just switches windows, without any effect. What does that setting configure instead? |
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| 18:59.10 | devurandom | (even when enabling the 3d types, I do not see a difference when alt+tabbing, so I guess this setting does something different...) |
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| 18:59.59 | phorsyon | devurandom: "show window" sounds like just show the window (without effect) |
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| 19:00.11 | devurandom | phorsyon: There is also "no effect". |
| 19:00.32 | devurandom | And as I said, the 3d types do not make a difference either. |
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| 19:02.43 | ronino | phorsyon: there you go: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182911 |
| 19:02.44 | phorsyon | i can only choose between Box, Cover and Flip switch |
| 19:04.17 | psih0man | hello people! is there a way to include all toolbars in the titlebar of the window? |
| 19:04.39 | devurandom | Weird, maybe after a restart of X. |
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| 19:05.51 | silver_hook | Where does KMail store its SMTP settings? |
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| 19:06.56 | thiago_home | kmailrc |
| 19:07.57 | silver_hook | thiago_home: I got the POP and IMAP accounts from there ...but not SMTP :/ |
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| 19:08.25 | phorsyon | ronino: ok, i voted for your bug ;-) |
| 19:09.59 | thiago_home | it's there |
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| 19:10.32 | malv0 | there needs to be a fortune cookie plasmoid |
| 19:10.45 | thiago_home | actually, I take that back |
| 19:10.51 | thiago_home | the SMTP servers I see are really old |
| 19:11.00 | thiago_home | I don't see any of my current SMTP servers |
| 19:11.21 | silver_hook | thiago_home: I'll just manually add them ...the most problematic migration was the filters anyway ;) |
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| 19:11.37 | thiago_home | now, have you tried grepping for your SMTP server's hostname? |
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| 19:13.41 | silver_hook | thiago_home: No luck. I'll just add those two accounts by hand ...no biggie :] |
| 19:14.27 | thiago_home | mailtransports |
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| 19:15.13 | ronino | phorsyon: cool, thx |
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| 19:16.06 | silver_hook | Is Strigi always such a hog or just when its generating its index for the first time? |
| 19:16.50 | firsm | I guess always, it ran for hours here, so I disabled it |
| 19:17.03 | thiago_home | only when indexing |
| 19:17.12 | tuxick | i guess it was meant to emulate windows |
| 19:17.27 | annma | now it stops if the system is used |
| 19:17.27 | tuxick | ah cool |
| 19:17.27 | annma | tuxick: ? |
| 19:17.31 | tuxick | yeye, bad joke :) |
| 19:17.43 | tuxick | hides in a corner |
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| 19:19.42 | silver_hook | Is there a reason why KDE overrides my X settings for ButtonMapping on the mouse? |
| 19:20.10 | estan | anyone on intel graphics who still experience slow lazzo selection around many items in dolphin and folder view? i've had the problem since 4.0, and it's still there in trunk it seems :/ |
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| 19:21.47 | annma | really? |
| 19:22.02 | annma | define "many" |
| 19:22.53 | annma | estan: ^^ |
| 19:24.29 | estan | annma: well around > 5-10 or so in list view in dolphin and it gets sluggish if i drag the lazzo back and forth. |
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| 19:24.51 | estan | it's maybe slightly better in the folder view. |
| 19:24.58 | annma | what do you call "lazzo" |
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| 19:25.14 | estan | regin select. click and drag around items. |
| 19:25.16 | estan | *region. |
| 19:25.28 | annma | I have no problem here |
| 19:25.29 | estan | and it gets progressively worse the more items the lazzo surrounds. |
| 19:25.30 | annma | Intel card |
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| 19:25.38 | estan | hm.. okay.. what chipset is it? |
| 19:25.40 | annma | 10 items are small |
| 19:25.59 | estan | yea, i should have said multiple items instead of many. |
| 19:26.18 | annma | 965 |
| 19:26.54 | estan | okay, hm. i have the 945GM, maybe it's a difference. |
| 19:27.04 | estan | do you know what driver version you're using? |
| 19:27.22 | estan | using 2:2.4.1-1ubuntu10.3 here.. |
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| 19:27.59 | annma | x11-driver-video-intel-2.4.2-6mdv2009.0 |
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| 19:28.15 | annma | x11-driver-video-intel-fast-i830-2.4.2-7.4mdv2009.0 |
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| 19:29.01 | estan | ah. okay. so a little newer. maybe i should try to compile the latest driver manually and test. |
| 19:29.03 | Half-Left | I guess bugs can only be at the Desktop layer :p |
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| 19:29.56 | estan | i also see quite some flickering when doing a region select in dolphin in a directory with maybe 100 or so files and folders. |
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| 19:30.26 | estan | i mean when the lazzo reaches the end of the view and the view starts scrolling, it's as if the items gets repeatedly selected/deselected as the view scrolls, making them flicker. |
| 19:30.27 | [mors] | ho folks |
| 19:30.41 | [mors] | how do I configure what happens when I press the power button ? I'm still on kde 413 (havne't got enough bw atm to upgradE) |
| 19:30.48 | estan | Half-Left: bugs can be anywhere ;) |
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| 19:32.25 | psih0man | I'm using nvidia 173 on gentoo and when I open compose on thunderbird, all consoles display garbage instead o text and some buttons on the taskbar disappear (on 4.1). when the window or the taskbar gets the focus, everything returns to normal |
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| 19:33.22 | phorsyon | psih0man: upgrade to 180.27 |
| 19:33.41 | psih0man | phorsyon: that driver doesn't support my card |
| 19:34.00 | Half-Left | estan: I was being sarcastic :p |
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| 19:35.18 | estan | Half-Left: ;) |
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| 19:36.38 | connyosis | I'm trying to use dual monitors in KDE 4.2. So far I've used nvidia-xconfig to use Twinview, and my mouse cursor shows on the secondary monitor. If I try to pull an app over to the secondary monitor though it doesn't show. Just all grey (But I can still see the mouse cursor). Any tips on how to get this working? |
| 19:37.09 | silver_hook | Are the Kopete logs from 3.x and 4.x compatible? Can I just copy over the old ones into the new directory? |
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| 19:38.01 | thiago_home | silver_hook: correct |
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| 19:38.10 | silver_hook | thiago_home: Thanks. |
| 19:39.00 | [mors] | how do I configure what happens when I press the power button ? |
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| 19:41.06 | silver_hook | thiago_home: Is it sensible to copy over all the old configs from Kopete? (e.g. 'contactlist.xml', pictures, photos, 'global-identities.xml', ...)? |
| 19:42.59 | phorsyon | silver_hook: i copied the whole config dir, it worked. |
| 19:43.40 | silver_hook | Also, I cannot find where the web shortcuts were stored in 3.x. (I already tried 'ack'ing the whole '~/.kde3.5' folder) |
| 19:44.00 | silver_hook | phorsyon: Thanks, I'll copy most of it, except the temporary stuff. |
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| 19:51.10 | Losowski | Linux News Flash: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:Â 2.6.28.3 released on 2009-02-02 18:21 UTC (today) http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.28.3 :) |
| 19:52.14 | silver_hook | What's the scanning app in KDE4 called? I can't find it :/ |
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| 19:53.19 | tuxick | i bet they changed the name again |
| 19:53.54 | TeLLuS | kooka |
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| 19:54.26 | TeLLuS | "Kooka was dropped from the kdegraphics module for KDE 4" |
| 19:54.32 | silver_hook | TeLLuS: Kooka is not in KDE4 anymore. |
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| 19:54.40 | siekacz | hi |
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| 19:56.15 | smurfslover | silver_hook: skanlite |
| 19:56.24 | silver_hook | smurfslover: Thank you :] |
| 19:56.43 | siekacz | I got a warning from strigi daemon |
| 19:56.56 | siekacz | WARNING: field 'http://strigi.sf.net/ontologies/0.9#debugParseError' is not defined in any rdfs ontology database. |
| 19:57.10 | siekacz | Segmentation fault |
| 19:57.18 | smurfslover | not as nice as kooka but it works |
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| 19:59.25 | silver_hook | smurfslover: Is it already included in 4.2, because I don't see it in Gentoo Portage (or its overlays)? |
| 19:59.47 | smurfslover | i'm on suse |
| 19:59.59 | smurfslover | let me see |
| 20:00.43 | phorsyon | silver_hook: you can scan with kolourpaint, while waiting for kooka to be ported. |
| 20:01.56 | [mors] | how do I configure what happens when I press the power button ? |
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| 20:02.20 | tuxick | heh, new feature on amarok2 |
| 20:02.22 | tuxick | "QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap |
| 20:02.29 | tuxick | do it doesn't |
| 20:02.37 | smurfslover | silver_hook: seems to be some extra application |
| 20:02.46 | smurfslover | don't think it is in kde |
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| 20:04.13 | smurfslover | silver_hook: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/skanlite/installation.html#getting-skanlite |
| 20:04.39 | smurfslover | it's in extragear/rgraphics |
| 20:04.41 | tuxick | anyone cares for the output of broken amarok? http://dpaste.com/115804/ |
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| 20:20.01 | simon__ | Hello! Running Debian Sid/Experimental with KDE 4.2; whenever I log in my desktop resolution drops from the native (and KDM-using) 1280x800, to a low 800x640 or something. I can reset it in System Settings but it reverts to the low resolution at next login. I've tried changing it with kdesudo systemsettings but still, no fix. I've removed the .kde4/ directory also, and we're forcing it wirh xorg.conf, but neither do it. Anyone know why? |
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| 20:22.14 | Losowski | he left? |
| 20:22.22 | Losowski | I have the solution to his problem |
| 20:22.29 | Losowski | first, it's a bug, which has a fix |
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| 20:25.51 | dracflamloc | in kde42, can teh folder-view plasmoid use a 'list' or 'detail'-style view instead of icons? |
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| 20:29.54 | poopix | How do I start KDE 4.2 with startx after it is installed? I tried changing my XSESSION variable to "kde-4.2" but it is still starting in 3.5.10 |
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| 20:30.27 | jthomas | Losowski he is a coworker, what is the fix? |
| 20:30.33 | silver_hook | Hmmm, Strigi really does eat a lot of resources, even when the indexer is not active. :/ |
| 20:30.42 | Losowski | jthomas: I had the same problem, and here is what I did.. |
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| 20:31.11 | jthomas | yes please |
| 20:31.41 | MrRat | poopix: whats in /etc/X11/Sessions/ |
| 20:31.41 | Losowski | jthomas: He mentioned he tried to adjust xorg.conf but to no avail? That 'is' the fix...I adjusted my xorg.conf to the precise dpi, resolution that I wanted to use, and it works fine now...."system settings > display" has a bug |
| 20:32.01 | Losowski | tell him to show me his xorg.conf in pastebin please? |
| 20:32.15 | jthomas | well we have it set for 'mode 1280x800' is that what you mean? |
| 20:32.25 | poopix | MrRat: I have kde-4.2 in there, along with kde-3.5. |
| 20:32.32 | Losowski | jthomas: What vidia card does he have? |
| 20:32.35 | jtheuer_ | Hi folks, how can I create a button or menu entry in konquerer? Is it easily possible? It shall only run a script with the current paramenter as url. |
| 20:32.43 | Losowski | video |
| 20:32.49 | Losowski | graphics card |
| 20:33.25 | jthomas | Losowski not sure, we're just using default drivers, nothing special. It all worked until this past weekend, he wanted to start fresh and removed .kde4/ and now it won't 'stick' with the proper resolution |
| 20:34.00 | Losowski | jthomas: As I said, that is a 'bug' in kde 4.2..."it won't stick"...you "must" adjust xorg.conf...show it to me in pastebin ? |
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| 20:34.10 | Losowski | jthomas: I will look at his xorg.conf |
| 20:34.15 | jthomas | gimme a minute but will do |
| 20:34.25 | Losowski | jthomas: ok |
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| 20:34.58 | Losowski | jthomas: Also, you must tell me, what graphics card does he have? It's an easy question |
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| 20:36.19 | simon__ | Losowski: here it is http://pastebin.ca/1325659 |
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| 20:37.08 | Losowski | simon__: Thanks...give me several minutes, ok? |
| 20:37.30 | simon__ | yep; talk with jthomas as I am the same person :) but may be messing with this machine |
| 20:37.39 | simon__ | and, thank you. |
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| 20:39.15 | Losowski | simon__ / jthomas: Please, you must tell me, what graphics card is your pc using? That is crucial if you want your xorg.conf to render any dispay config you wish |
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| 20:40.26 | Losowski | jthomas: The reason is, Nvidia, for example, has some very unique options in xorg.conf that must be set for xorg to work properly |
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| 20:42.03 | Losowski | jthomas: BTW, you xorg.conf really has no info about your monitor or graphics card...that is crucial info |
| 20:42.56 | simon__ | hmmm... yes I've never understood the relation between the different parts of that file. But as I said, it worked before fine, until the .kde4/ folder was removed. |
| 20:43.08 | simon__ | I took that from another setup per the link at the top of it |
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| 20:43.34 | Losowski | simon__: When you initially set up xorg, you must run xorg configre |
| 20:43.59 | Losowski | your xorg.conf.new must have an initial configuration, which accurately reflects your monitor, graphics card |
| 20:44.25 | Losowski | then, you copy xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf once it has everything you need |
| 20:44.55 | simon__ | xorg configure \\bash: xorg: command not found |
| 20:45.21 | Losowski | simon__: That's not the exact command...moment, I'll give it to you |
| 20:45.37 | simon__ | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
| 20:45.45 | simon__ | thats a debian way at least |
| 20:46.26 | simon__ | back in a few |
| 20:46.28 | Losowski | simon__: The plain Linux way is (in root): # Xorg -configure |
| 20:46.48 | Losowski | try that |
| 20:46.59 | Losowski | "#" being your root |
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| 20:48.15 | simon__ | well the debian way fixed that but now the touch screen stuff is all missing, but perhaps not a worry |
| 20:48.29 | simon__ | I have too much other stuff to do to be worrying about that part right now |
| 20:48.36 | simon__ | thanks for the help Losowski |
| 20:48.40 | Losowski | simon__: your new xorg file should be /root/xorg.conf.new |
| 20:49.01 | simon__ | is there not a konversation app for KDE4 yet? |
| 20:49.14 | Losowski | simon__: It's only a few more steps if you wish to have xorg control your resolution |
| 20:49.32 | simon__ | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg overwrites the old so I had made a backup; at some point I'll see if I can merge them |
| 20:49.50 | Losowski | simon__: It should now list your graphics card |
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| 20:50.48 | simon__ | nope, barely lists anything with the way that I did it. I have to go tho, I think I am fine with this right now |
| 20:50.57 | simon__ | it works, which is the key :) |
| 20:51.18 | mutlu_inek | yay! a shiny new konversation for kde4... still incomplete, but it works! =) |
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| 20:51.30 | simon__ | mutlu_inek: where and how? |
| 20:51.33 | mutlu_inek | here |
| 20:51.35 | mutlu_inek | :P |
| 20:52.17 | Losowski | I look forward to "Kexi" (part of Koffice)...when is version 2 due? |
| 20:52.30 | mutlu_inek | simon__: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/work/konvi-kde4 |
| 20:52.33 | Losowski | version 2 of Kexi that is |
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| 20:52.56 | mutlu_inek | see konversation home page |
| 20:53.02 | mutlu_inek | i'm gone |
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| 20:57.06 | rafelbev | aseigo: I read that there is openid support inside kdelibs, can I add support for openid inside the twitter plasmoid or choqok ? |
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| 20:57.40 | annma | aseigo is away, I am his secretary |
| 20:57.51 | annma | openid support in kdelibs? |
| 20:57.59 | annma | I missed that |
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| 20:58.20 | rafelbev | http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2007/07/amarokkdeorg-goes-openid.html |
| 20:58.20 | annma | rafelbev: you can propose any patch of course |
| 20:58.30 | rafelbev | annma: my intention |
| 20:58.53 | annma | subscribe to the plasma mailing list, we also use a reviewboard |
| 20:59.22 | rafelbev | i just checked from svn choqok since its slightly more fully fledged |
| 20:59.43 | rafelbev | still reading on how the whole openid stuff would work in relation to a simple username+password KUrl pair |
| 20:59.49 | annma | the article says that Amarok website will use OpenID |
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| 21:00.02 | rafelbev | yes, then there is a reply by aseigo |
| 21:00.15 | rafelbev | i had found something on his blog too but its dated |
| 21:00.18 | rafelbev | 2007 |
| 21:00.42 | aseigo | the code is in playground still; when we get to first users of it, we can look at moving it somewhere for production |
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| 21:00.48 | annma | OK yes it mentions an applet that already uses it |
| 21:00.58 | annma | tsss you must rest boss |
| 21:01.06 | rafelbev | lol |
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| 21:01.28 | rafelbev | aseigo: ah ok, so i wasn't looking through the sources of kdelibs in vain |
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| 21:02.13 | rafelbev | aseigo: can you help me get to grips with poking around with it, or should I simply wait till it gets past kdereview ? |
| 21:02.40 | annma | you'd better play with it now probably |
| 21:02.47 | aseigo | rafelbev: i can't today; i'm rather ill atm and need to recover fully before leaving in two days... |
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| 21:02.55 | rafelbev | i currently do not have a username+password for identica and wanted to scratch the itch and get to twitter from a kde4 app |
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| 21:02.57 | annma | yes we want him fit |
| 21:02.59 | aseigo | rafelbev: i'd suggest poking at it in playground |
| 21:03.11 | rafelbev | aseigo: thanks... you are the man |
| 21:03.17 | rafelbev | lets hope i don't give up on the itch |
| 21:03.23 | annma | rafelbev: #plasma might be your next stop |
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| 21:31.44 | jtheuer_ | How can I create a button or menu entry in konquerer? like a ServiceMenu |
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| 21:36.36 | lazarus477 | I am using Debian Lenny. I am wondering. Is KDE 4 in Lenny or is it still the old 3.5 series? |
| 21:37.08 | pinotree | lazarus477: #debian-kde |
| 21:37.18 | lazarus477 | Thanks |
| 21:37.21 | lazarus477 | I shall move on |
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| 21:41.01 | tsb | lazarus477, sure you don't want to Stay a While and Listen? |
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| 21:49.58 | schafi | my dialogboxes sometimes seem to freeze for about 30 sec. does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 21:50.24 | Alumin | (I guess I should clarify that I want to change the current title from a shell script...I'm aware of the normal interactive UI to change the tab title) |
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| 21:53.07 | PuffTheMagic | i am getting undefined reference to `typeinfo for ThumbCreator' |
| 21:53.15 | PuffTheMagic | when i try to build koffice-libs |
| 21:53.23 | PuffTheMagic | anyone know how to fix this? |
| 21:53.50 | jtheuer_ | Alumin: it is |
| 21:54.02 | jtheuer_ | *wait* ... |
| 21:55.16 | jtheuer_ | hidden, but you'll find an example here: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/KDE/2008-08/msg00066.html |
| 21:55.45 | jtheuer_ | Is there ANY howto on writing a Konqueror 4 extension? Any doc at all? |
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| 22:15.59 | Half-Left | PuffTheMagic: I heard it's to do with eigen2 |
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| 22:20.04 | PuffTheMagic | Half-Left: should I rebuild eigen with out as-needed ldflag? |
| 22:20.14 | PuffTheMagic | or is something else wrong |
| 22:20.33 | poopix | Why can't I open pdf's in Okular? It just say it can't open the file. |
| 22:20.47 | Half-Left | You'll have to wait until eigen hits final I think and they fix koffice in svn or final/RC |
| 22:21.45 | pinotree | poopix: how did you install okular? |
| 22:21.45 | poopix | I installed it with "emerge kde-meta:4.2" |
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| 22:22.01 | pinotree | then you should ask in #gentoo-kde, probably you are missing something |
| 22:22.08 | tsb | Is it possible to change the taskbar color on a per-desktop basis? I'm trying to find a way to easily see which desktop I'm at. |
| 22:22.13 | poopix | Ah ok, thanks. |
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| 22:23.10 | PuffTheMagic | Half-Left: i dont even have eigen installed |
| 22:23.23 | Half-Left | hmm |
| 22:23.28 | PuffTheMagic | what pulls that in |
| 22:23.55 | kde4pepo | eigen2 is compiled into apps, nothing to be installed :) |
| 22:24.18 | kde4pepo | hah, it works... |
| 22:24.34 | PuffTheMagic | kde4pepo: isnt eigen a library that other programs link against? |
| 22:24.41 | PuffTheMagic | so it would need to be installed first if something were to use it |
| 22:24.57 | Half-Left | I get the same issue |
| 22:24.58 | kde4pepo | PuffTheMagic: Eigen2 is a pure template (header) based |
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| 22:26.27 | PuffTheMagic | kde4pepo: so are you saying that kde copies eigen into its build path insead of using whats installed on the userland? |
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| 22:27.04 | corinth | Where does kde4 kopete store its sounds? |
| 22:27.12 | corinth | Or rather, the sounds that it uses. |
| 22:27.22 | kde4pepo | PuffTheMagic: let me say it different. there is an "eigen2-devel" package, but not a "libeigen" package |
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| 22:28.12 | kde4pepo | so eigen is never a runtime dependency, only buildtime |
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| 22:28.48 | kde4pepo | but I just joined, I havent seen what your real problem is :) |
| 22:29.15 | PuffTheMagic | kde4pepo: right i understand now that there is no libeigen, but gentoo has a eigen2 package which i would assume installs the headers into /usr/include somewhere... so its just surprising that kde does not build with these alrady existing headers |
| 22:29.47 | kde4pepo | PuffTheMagic: Eigen2 is released today, so the packages you have may be a tad too old. |
| 22:29.54 | Half-Left | I actually got told by a koffice dev it was to do with eigen2 |
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| 22:37.23 | glen | is this backtrace useful? http://pld.pastebin.com/f5a41ff5f it crashed on sending email. but in fact it also crashes when just opening kmail after some time |
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| 22:38.21 | PuffTheMagic | Half-Left: any idea if this is just a 1.96 issue... like is this already fixed in svn? |
| 22:38.23 | Shingoshi | What typically causes artifacts on the desktop? Things not properly drawn as they should be. |
| 22:39.30 | PuffTheMagic | Shingoshi: buggy display driver |
| 22:39.40 | Shingoshi | Thanks. |
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| 22:39.51 | Shingoshi | I wasn't sure. |
| 22:40.05 | Shingoshi | But my driver is definitely not working. |
| 22:40.18 | Half-Left | PuffTheMagic: Not sure, not tired svn version or snpashot |
| 22:40.32 | Shingoshi | I have an integrated video on my board by nVidia. |
| 22:41.41 | PuffTheMagic | Half-Left: i will let you knwo then, im trying svn now |
| 22:41.52 | Half-Left | ok, cool |
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| 22:49.34 | murph | is it possible to have kde compositing disable while certain programs are running? (kde 4.2) |
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| 22:50.30 | murph | (aka playing games through wine) |
| 22:50.43 | Half-Left | murph: No, only by Shortkey off and on |
| 22:50.57 | murph | ok |
| 22:51.04 | Half-Left | Alt,Shift, F12 |
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| 22:52.06 | murph | ah, neat. |
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| 22:59.43 | hvgotcodes | yo are people experiencing issues with drop shadows in 4.2? |
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| 23:01.09 | Half-Left | What issues? |
| 23:01.41 | hvgotcodes | Half-Left: my shadows are white, even though i specify black |
| 23:02.04 | Half-Left | which ones? |
| 23:02.22 | hvgotcodes | all |
| 23:02.43 | Half-Left | You may not know but they are set by the colour scheme now |
| 23:03.03 | hvgotcodes | Half-Left: I can't customize them with the shadows plugin? |
| 23:03.14 | Half-Left | No, with the colour settings |
| 23:03.20 | Half-Left | i.e active window |
| 23:03.30 | hvgotcodes | Half-Left: where to find those settings? |
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| 23:03.47 | Half-Left | Where you set your colour scheme |
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| 23:04.21 | hvgotcodes | its hard to get all these settings right ;) |
| 23:04.23 | Half-Left | Colours>Active titlebar |
| 23:05.00 | Half-Left | Look for that and thats the shadows of the windows |
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| 23:05.48 | hvgotcodes | so alt+f2 and type in colours? |
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| 23:08.13 | PuffTheMagic | Half-Left: koffice-libs has progressed farther than it did before with out crashing |
| 23:08.20 | hvgotcodes | so does the shadow effect configuration do anything? |
| 23:08.21 | PuffTheMagic | before it broke at 19% |
| 23:08.27 | PuffTheMagic | and im at 32 now |
| 23:08.34 | PuffTheMagic | so i would say its fixed upstream |
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| 23:09.53 | Half-Left | PuffTheMagic: ok, I may wait till RC or final, depends :p |
| 23:09.55 | Half-Left | brb |
| 23:10.32 | jthomas | hvgotcodes it IS hard to get the colours correct, so I made this wish report, wanna vote for it? :) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179973 |
| 23:11.57 | hvgotcodes | jthomas do shadows work at all for you? |
| 23:12.31 | hvgotcodes | Half-Left: i don't think there are any drop shadow settings in the colors section |
| 23:12.38 | jthomas | how so? window shadows? I don't have any 3d drivers installed so not on those machines; on my EeePC with the XOrg/Intel drivers other stuff works but I am not sure if I've tested shadows |
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| 23:13.37 | jthomas | i'm outtie, have a good $PART_OF_DAY |
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| 23:16.15 | Sager | www.dsswiki.net/~sager/why does it look like this.png can someone tell me why the task bar is shorter than the screen , why most of the screen is black,, and why i have a box at the top that is clear,, running suse 11.1 for amd 64 kde 4.1 |
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| 23:17.07 | Sager | hold the link is not correct,,, |
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| 23:17.53 | Sager | www.dsswiki.net~sager/why_does_it_look_like_this.png |
| 23:18.44 | Sager | www.dsswiki.net/~sager/why_does_it_look_like_this.png |
| 23:18.48 | Sager | lol bad link day |
| 23:20.17 | qacek | Is it normal for Nepomuk storage state to be 1.5 GiB with 0 files in index? |
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| 23:21.46 | Sager | any ideas? |
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| 23:26.40 | litb | hi all |
| 23:26.49 | litb | how can i make the slider work and dim my display? |
| 23:27.02 | litb | when i slide the display doesn't change light intensity |
| 23:27.06 | litb | any hacks i have to do? |
| 23:27.46 | litb | and i wonder why you can move within the power popup :) quite funny. you can move the content of that window away, and then have a blank one :) |
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| 23:29.42 | theland | I have recently installed SUSE 11.1 with KDE 3.5.10 release 21.11 and as soon as I logged in to the system for the first time I changed my username of the only user on the system (Which changed the Home directory) Is there an easy way to change the link under the main menu under the computer tab to match these changes? I can't simply right click and edit. |
| 23:30.30 | theland | When I click the link currently a pop up opens and it says "The file or folder does not exist" (Which is true) |
| 23:30.41 | Sager | remake the other user name |
| 23:30.44 | Sager | :) |
| 23:31.18 | theland | Ahhh yes..... |
| 23:31.32 | Sager | :) |
| 23:31.51 | theland | Maybe I should be clearer.....I wanted to change the user name and home directory. I do not want the old one..... |
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| 23:32.23 | Sager | so wait, u created user a when u installed |
| 23:32.32 | Sager | then deleted a and made b |
| 23:32.40 | theland | No renamed a to be b |
| 23:32.41 | Sager | but a is still there under home? |
| 23:32.51 | theland | the link to a's home is there |
| 23:32.58 | theland | but it does not exist |
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| 23:33.11 | Sager | i never did that |
| 23:33.16 | Sager | changing a user name |
| 23:33.23 | Sager | created new and deleting old yes |
| 23:33.42 | knusperfrosch | got some strage behaviour in a folders properties: downloaded a file, clicked save as. saw that the folder has a "?" as icon in detailed view. right-click=>properties, large icon in the dialogue has a "?" too, now focus it by clicking or tab-ing to it and you get the original icon that should be shown |
| 23:33.47 | Sager | have u logged out since you did the rename |
| 23:33.53 | knusperfrosch | that icon is back from kde3 days |
| 23:34.05 | theland | Yeah I rebooted |
| 23:34.20 | Sager | i say go back to the original user name |
| 23:34.27 | Sager | then create a second user |
| 23:34.51 | theland | I'll do that.. Ta |
| 23:34.55 | Sager | gl |
| 23:34.56 | Jahooty | i've got a text file created with windows notepad that has all sorts of wierd whitespace when viewed in kate, isn't there an option to use MS whitespace characters? |
| 23:35.19 | Sager | i use kwrite, seems to support notepad formatting |
| 23:36.13 | Jahooty | came up the same in kwrite too |
| 23:36.39 | Jahooty | it's got a space between every character and two newline characters instead of 1 it seems |
| 23:36.51 | Sager | odd |
| 23:36.55 | Sager | never saw that before |
| 23:36.56 | Jahooty | yea |
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| 23:37.58 | Sager | can someone please tell me why my desktop looks like this |
| 23:37.59 | Sager | www.dsswiki.net/~sager/why_does_it_look_like_this.png |
| 23:38.07 | osFrenchDude1 | Hi, in gnome there's a very nice option to smooth a little fonts and screen rendering |
| 23:38.14 | Sager | short tast bar,, black over almost all the screen |
| 23:38.17 | osFrenchDude1 | do we have a similar option in kde ? |
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| 23:39.06 | Jahooty | Sager, i get no image there |
| 23:39.10 | Sager | hmm |
| 23:39.20 | Sager | ok go to the ~sager folder |
| 23:39.26 | Sager | see if u can click it |
| 23:40.09 | Jahooty | in kate or kwrite is there an option to show the 'special' characters for the whitespace? |
| 23:40.18 | Jahooty | i get 'object not found' |
| 23:40.24 | Sager | when u click on it? |
| 23:40.27 | Jahooty | error 404 |
| 23:40.27 | Sager | lemme check the rights |
| 23:40.30 | Jahooty | no, i have nothing to click |
| 23:41.26 | Sager | on www.dsswiki.net/~sager |
| 23:41.29 | Sager | it should work |
| 23:42.10 | Jahooty | ok |
| 23:42.13 | Jahooty | weird |
| 23:42.22 | Jahooty | i have no idea |
| 23:42.36 | Sager | isnt it |
| 23:42.44 | Sager | i cant figure it out |
| 23:42.57 | Sager | tried tons of different things |
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| 23:45.10 | Sager | anyone else wanna take a stab at it |
| 23:47.22 | Sager | lol 400 peeps |
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| 23:55.09 | tosmo | suspend/hibernate just locks the screen, but doesn't actually enter some sleep mode. any hints? s2ram, s2disk work when running as root on the console |
| 23:55.24 | astromme | is there a way to use nepomuksearch:/blah to find songs in a certain album? |
| 23:55.52 | GraveDigger | astromme: it should do that, yeah, but having it working is ... well.. more luck than anything else |
| 23:55.55 | astromme | I tried nepomuksearch:/album:'Album Name' but that didn't work (Yes my data is indexed with strigi) |
| 23:56.10 | astromme | And I'm using the sesame2 soprano backend |
| 23:56.47 | astromme | GraveDigger: How would I search for an album? |
| 23:56.47 | GraveDigger | astromme: dont ask me, ask the strigi/nepomuk/whatever devs |
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