| 00:00.11 | Ace2016_- | i've tried editing the files but the changes do not take effect |
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| 00:03.06 | schafi | is it possible to show widgets / plasmoids only on the dashboard view and not the desktop (like on macos)? |
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| 00:04.27 | Jucato | Ace2016_-: Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
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| 00:05.45 | Ace2016_- | Jucato: thanks, can kquitapp be used with other applications too? |
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| 00:06.27 | Jucato | yes |
| 00:06.55 | Jucato | kquitapp --help: Quit a D-Bus enabled application easily |
| 00:07.46 | Ace2016_- | thank you |
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| 00:08.40 | Megzlna | hi |
| 00:08.53 | Shrp_ | hey |
| 00:08.59 | Megzlna | is KDE as good as windows Vista |
| 00:09.05 | Shrp_ | lol |
| 00:09.10 | Shrp_ | even better |
| 00:09.13 | Shrp_ | waay better |
| 00:09.18 | Megzlna | what why |
| 00:09.27 | laaapin | using both, it' s not hard to say KDE is a lot better |
| 00:09.34 | Shrp_ | you can check out some vids of kde4 in action on youtube |
| 00:09.36 | laaapin | more coherent, less cluttered |
| 00:09.36 | KDE4000 | ewwwwwwwwww vista |
| 00:09.53 | Megzlna | the file browser doesnt look as good as vista |
| 00:10.01 | laaapin | better overall integration |
| 00:10.31 | laaapin | you can tweek it to fit your needs :) |
| 00:10.38 | k1lumin4t1 | I have a problem using KDE4 when connecting an IPOD |
| 00:10.39 | Ace2016_- | i do not like vista's start menu or its explorer, or the way things are hidden behind many clicks which take a while to find, apart from that vista is fine and vista mce is very nice |
| 00:10.52 | k1lumin4t1 | when I eject it through GUI it won't disconnect propperly |
| 00:11.00 | k1lumin4t1 | I then have to do a cli eject |
| 00:11.00 | Jucato | try it out for yourself and you decide. KDE is not trying to imitate VIsta |
| 00:11.23 | k1lumin4t1 | Ace2016_-, vista sux. Period |
| 00:11.28 | Megzlna | how do i install kde on win xp |
| 00:11.32 | k1lumin4t1 | omg |
| 00:11.35 | Shrp_ | you dont |
| 00:11.38 | k1lumin4t1 | Megzlna, no can't do |
| 00:11.39 | Megzlna | why not |
| 00:11.50 | Shrp_ | kde is a linux desktop envrionment |
| 00:12.05 | Ace2016_- | kde only runs on linux and freebsd for hte moment |
| 00:12.06 | Shrp_ | once windows switches to 2.6.* kernel |
| 00:12.07 | Ace2016_- | hte* |
| 00:12.09 | Shrp_ | you can then :P |
| 00:12.11 | laaapin | You can install KDE programs on Windows |
| 00:12.15 | Megzlna | that doesnt matter |
| 00:12.18 | Jucato | you can only install *some* parts of KDE on Windows. but not the whole thing |
| 00:12.19 | laaapin | thanks to KDE devs |
| 00:12.21 | k1lumin4t1 | Shrp_, not even that |
| 00:12.28 | Megzlna | what about portable code |
| 00:12.30 | murrant | dpecka_:http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ |
| 00:12.33 | Shrp_ | yeh i was just j/k |
| 00:12.55 | Megzlna | i need a new shell |
| 00:12.55 | laaapin | normally you should be able to install almost everything, but not plasma |
| 00:12.55 | k1lumin4t1 | Megzlna, what about that? |
| 00:13.05 | Megzlna | xp shell is getting too old |
| 00:13.26 | Jucato | actually you can install Plasma now.. but not sure about the details |
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| 00:13.34 | laaapin | Megzlna: you really should switch to linux :) |
| 00:13.41 | Megzlna | i cant |
| 00:13.49 | k1lumin4t1 | yeah |
| 00:13.58 | laaapin | Megzlna: give me one app that you can't use with linux? |
| 00:13.58 | k1lumin4t1 | he can't play gamez on da lainux |
| 00:14.18 | Megzlna | i do audio, synthesis, sound design, max/msp, cubase, vst's, etc |
| 00:14.19 | Jucato | can give a few games :) |
| 00:14.24 | Megzlna | 0.001% of audio stuff works on Linux |
| 00:14.25 | k1lumin4t1 | oh oh |
| 00:14.28 | Megzlna | and the stuff that does work |
| 00:14.32 | k1lumin4t1 | leave this one to me |
| 00:14.33 | Megzlna | is totally messed up |
| 00:14.33 | laaapin | i always keep a windows somewhere to play games... but development takes too much time to play :) |
| 00:14.33 | k1lumin4t1 | :D |
| 00:14.39 | k1lumin4t1 | hohohoh |
| 00:14.44 | k1lumin4t1 | Megzlna, ehh... wrong |
| 00:15.07 | Megzlna | wrong? Tell me which newbie sequencer I should use on Linux |
| 00:15.09 | k1lumin4t1 | Megzlna, what's "sound design" by the way? |
| 00:15.14 | Shrp_ | Megzlna: make sure you check out kde4 if you want to be really impressed |
| 00:15.14 | Shrp_ | :) |
| 00:15.55 | k1lumin4t1 | Megzlna, Qtractor, Rosegarden, Rezound |
| 00:16.01 | Megzlna | Those are the lowest of the barrel |
| 00:16.07 | Megzlna | total lamer stuff |
| 00:16.14 | Megzlna | I'm not a newb dude |
| 00:16.19 | Megzlna | I don't use "Rosegarden" |
| 00:16.21 | Jucato | <Megzlna> wrong? Tell me which newbie sequencer I should use on Linux |
| 00:16.21 | k1lumin4t1 | maybe you just don't know how to use them |
| 00:16.27 | Jucato | <Megzlna> I'm not a newb dude |
| 00:16.28 | Megzlna | No dude, I'm on some other shit |
| 00:16.42 | k1lumin4t1 | me too, dude |
| 00:16.43 | k1lumin4t1 | and dude |
| 00:16.46 | Jucato | 1. this is not a "switch to Linux channel" |
| 00:16.46 | k1lumin4t1 | I can tell you dude |
| 00:16.49 | Jucato | 2. watch your language |
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| 00:16.54 | Megzlna | http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5977/foo1rt1.png |
| 00:17.12 | k1lumin4t1 | I also do professional sound with linxu |
| 00:17.16 | k1lumin4t1 | *linux |
| 00:17.17 | k1lumin4t1 | DUDE |
| 00:17.19 | Megzlna | http://www.tetromino.com/images/post_12_max_msp.gif |
| 00:17.30 | Megzlna | the stuff you listed is lamer programs |
| 00:17.38 | Megzlna | for newbies |
| 00:17.52 | Megzlna | Rosegarden is based on MIDI |
| 00:17.58 | k1lumin4t1 | HAHAHAH |
| 00:17.59 | Megzlna | MIDI is totally obsolete |
| 00:18.06 | k1lumin4t1 | I can do the first screenshot with BEAST |
| 00:18.11 | k1lumin4t1 | omg |
| 00:18.11 | Megzlna | No you can't |
| 00:18.14 | Megzlna | Beast is nothing |
| 00:18.18 | Megzlna | Nobody uses that |
| 00:18.48 | Megzlna | max/msp has thousands of objects for it |
| 00:18.50 | k1lumin4t1 | well, I do |
| 00:18.51 | Megzlna | beast has like... 10 |
| 00:18.58 | Megzlna | for 2003 |
| 00:19.08 | k1lumin4t1 | oh, because you can creat the thousands with those ten ;) |
| 00:19.08 | Megzlna | *from 2003 |
| 00:19.18 | Megzlna | k1l: You cannot. |
| 00:19.23 | Megzlna | That's incorrect. |
| 00:20.27 | k1lumin4t1 | oh yeah |
| 00:20.27 | k1lumin4t1 | now you're enlightened |
| 00:20.27 | Megzlna | Do you know what fiddle is? |
| 00:20.27 | Megzlna | http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html |
| 00:20.28 | k1lumin4t1 | dude |
| 00:20.28 | Megzlna | It's a pitch follower. |
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| 00:20.28 | k1lumin4t1 | stop posting screenshots |
| 00:20.28 | Megzlna | To do that with the atomic operations in "Beast" you'd use your entire CPU |
| 00:20.28 | Megzlna | fiddle uses 0.5% |
| 00:20.28 | Megzlna | max |
| 00:20.30 | Megzlna | Beast is newbie shit |
| 00:20.32 | laaapin | great... |
| 00:20.37 | Jucato | this is already offtopic for this channel. plesae take it somewhere else. like #kde-chat if you like |
| 00:20.44 | Jucato | Megzlna: again, watch your language |
| 00:20.45 | k1lumin4t1 | yes, sorry |
| 00:20.54 | Megzlna | Just don't pretend you know sound and tell me a bunch of lamer apps |
| 00:21.04 | Megzlna | I'm talking about the real best-in-the-world music stuff |
| 00:21.06 | Megzlna | it's on windows |
| 00:21.13 | k1lumin4t1 | hahahaha |
| 00:21.15 | Megzlna | all the buzzmachines are for windows. |
| 00:21.17 | laaapin | Megzlna: ok, stick to windows then... |
| 00:21.21 | k1lumin4t1 | sorry, Jucato. Could't help it |
| 00:21.33 | k1lumin4t1 | this guy is just hillarious |
| 00:21.42 | Jucato | but enough is enough |
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| 00:22.27 | Jucato | Megzlna: stick to Windows if you want. like I said earlier, you can install *some* KDE apps in Windows, but not the whole software distributed by KDE |
| 00:22.52 | Megzlna | maybe in 10 years linux will have some real music stuff |
| 00:23.33 | k1lumin4t1 | Megzlna, maybe in ten years you learn how to use them |
| 00:23.35 | k1lumin4t1 | ;) |
| 00:23.59 | Megzlna | there's nothing to learn in Beast, it doesn't do anything |
| 00:24.02 | Jucato | I said "enough" |
| 00:24.06 | Megzlna | except basic A to B patching |
| 00:24.42 | Megzlna | comparing max/msp to beast is like trying to compare C++ to a .BAT file |
| 00:24.48 | Megzlna | totally different |
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| 00:28.27 | Blubbel | hi there, got some problems with xrandr under KDE4, it just doesn't give me the right resolution for my external screen. Any idea for a solution or where i could ask? |
| 00:28.39 | stefan__ | Hi! I just installed KDE 4.2RC1 Kubuntu Intrepid packages and now plasma is crashing every time on startup. |
| 00:28.55 | stefan__ | I already removed all plasma config files in my .kde directory. |
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| 00:29.11 | m_tadeu | stefan__: I was talking on the #kubuntu and the problem is that not all packages are uploaded |
| 00:29.15 | Jucato | stefan__: have you asked in #kubuntu ? |
| 00:29.23 | m_tadeu | wait for about 1 hour and upgrade |
| 00:29.36 | stefan__ | I haven't asked in #kubuntu. |
| 00:29.40 | stefan__ | Ok, I will wait. |
| 00:29.56 | m_tadeu | love the new wallpaper, btw :) |
| 00:30.00 | stefan__ | So I'm not the only one with the problem, right? |
| 00:30.20 | Jucato | you will have to ask other #kubuntu users about that. so far no reports from other distros |
| 00:30.21 | m_tadeu | stefan__: you, me and the rest of the impacient guys :) |
| 00:30.23 | Jucato | (rc1 was just released) |
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| 00:31.05 | laaapin | (just released and still not available in kdemod-unstable... what are they waiting for :)) |
| 00:31.14 | k1lumin4t1 | anybody experiencing the same problem with IPOD on KDE4 as me? |
| 00:31.19 | stefan__ | m_tadeu: well... if it isn't completely uploaded to the repository, there shouldn't be a news item on kubuntu.org just yet. |
| 00:31.47 | k1lumin4t1 | I can't do a propper disconnection directly through KDE's GUI |
| 00:31.53 | Jucato | laaapin: ask #archlinux :) |
| 00:31.59 | k1lumin4t1 | I have to manually eject it through cli |
| 00:32.09 | Jucato | k1lumin4t1: you'll have to wait. not many are cursed/blessed with an iPod :) |
| 00:32.16 | Jucato | (wait for an answer I mean) |
| 00:32.21 | m_tadeu | stefan__: well that is another issue...but maybe the news had to come out due to the dot news having a link to it |
| 00:32.24 | k1lumin4t1 | Jucato, oh, hehe :) |
| 00:32.55 | m_tadeu | stefan__: just speculating ;) |
| 00:32.55 | stefan__ | m_tadeu: mhh, shouldn't this be the other was around. ;-) |
| 00:33.03 | stefan__ | m_tadeu: ok :-) |
| 00:33.15 | stefan__ | s/was/way/ |
| 00:33.36 | laaapin | Jucato: lol, i bet they're working hard on it :) |
| 00:34.32 | animeloe | beats up kde4.2 for no sound |
| 00:34.51 | drantin | beats up animeloe |
| 00:35.16 | animeloe | shoves a boot up drantin's mouth and giggles (bottom's up) |
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| 00:41.16 | animeloe | behold the power of MUTE :) |
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| 00:41.17 | animeloe | *giggle* |
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| 00:48.39 | animeloe | is there a way to have a default autostart? |
| 00:48.55 | animeloe | ie. every profile MUST start $PROGRAM |
| 00:49.31 | drantin | place a script that runs it in ~/.kde/Autostart ? |
| 00:50.05 | Ace2016_- | has to end in .sh |
| 00:50.22 | drantin | by profile, do you mean user? |
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| 00:50.54 | animeloe | yeah |
| 00:50.59 | animeloe | so every user must run it |
| 00:51.30 | Ace2016_- | maybe /usr/share/kde4/ and make an Autostart folder? |
| 00:51.31 | animeloe | I know about ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 00:52.01 | alipio | hello.. I'm trying to use the kget panel applet.. but it appearing "Could not find requested component: kgetpanelbar"... How do I solve it? |
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| 01:05.47 | karthikp | In konqueror, pressing / starts a search. Now, how do I go to the next occurence of the search term in the page? |
| 01:06.01 | Jucato | Kardos, press F3 |
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| 01:07.19 | karthikp | Semi-yippie! How do I go backwards? |
| 01:07.29 | Jucato | Shift+F3 |
| 01:07.54 | karthikp | You sir, have earned one Yippie! :) |
| 01:08.03 | Jucato | heh |
| 01:08.24 | Jucato | that, btw, works in most KDE searches, not just konqueror |
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| 01:09.44 | karthikp | Sweet. It should probably be a bit more obvious. I stumbled upon the / by accident. Then again, for casual users, there's always Ctrl+F... |
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| 01:10.20 | caustin | Hello |
| 01:10.34 | karthikp | goes back to waiting for 4.2 to hit the arch repos... |
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| 01:12.35 | caustin | Anyone experience Plasma grabbing 100% CPU when adding Icons to the desktop in KDE 4.2 beta? |
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| 01:23.15 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone here know of a good tango iconset for KDE 4? As nice as Oxygen is, sometimes I like something simpler. |
| 01:24.09 | Shirakawasuna | oh, and does anyone know if creating styles/window decorations is going to be made easier, eventually? Coding a window decoration is something that's beyond me, atm... it'd be nice to have something robust that could use pixmaps. |
| 01:24.09 | TouchDown | hi. i m with suspicious of invaders managing my notebook. anyone can analise my >ps x in paste bin ? |
| 01:24.24 | TouchDown | hi |
| 01:24.46 | TouchDown | i m with suspicious of invaders managing my notebook. anyone can analise my ps x in pastebin ,? |
| 01:25.31 | werdnum | TouchDown: we saw the first tie |
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| 01:25.58 | TouchDown | sorry i aint read |
| 01:26.01 | TouchDown | what did u say ? |
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| 01:26.09 | TouchDown | werdnum: what u saw ? |
| 01:26.25 | Shirakawasuna | TouchDown: #kde isn't going to be your best chance of getting help... find your distro's channel |
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| 01:26.45 | TouchDown | ok ty. |
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| 01:33.09 | noelk | ...................................++. |
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| 01:36.03 | Jucato | Shirakawasuna, re: tango, theoretically, you can use the same tango icon set since KDE 4 uses the freedesktop.org icon naming standard. just not sure if it actually works already (since there are still some differences) |
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| 01:36.35 | Jucato | about style/window decorations, deKorator afaik is already being ported. there's also a widget style that uses svg under development (not sure on current status) |
| 01:36.50 | m_tadeu | after upgrading to rc1 kopete doesn't have a WLM account type any more....what might be wrong? |
| 01:41.41 | Shirakawasuna | Jucato: cool. I use the dekorator svn version, it still uh... has some way to go :). |
| 01:42.27 | Shirakawasuna | Jucato: and I'll try out the gnome tango icon set w/ kde 4 and take the lack of an KDE package to mean that there isn't one w/ a dolphin icon, etc. Thanks! |
| 01:43.11 | Jucato | theoretically, dolphin should be using the icon for "file manager" in the naming spec |
| 01:43.22 | Jucato | but I'm not that familiar with the spec so.. |
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| 01:44.06 | Shirakawasuna | that'd be cool |
| 01:44.26 | Shirakawasuna | perhaps I should gain skill w/ inkscape and make some icons :) |
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| 01:51.13 | [mors] | folks |
| 01:51.20 | [mors] | something odd happened with kopete |
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| 01:51.54 | [mors] | yesterday I added a msn account, contact where imported. the os gave me some problem and I was forced to do a forced reset. |
| 01:52.15 | [mors] | next time I opened kopete, after a new boot, kopete still had the contacts, but the msn account dissapeared |
| 01:52.32 | [mors] | I added it again, and the contact were imported again, |
| 01:52.42 | maxamillion | how do i move the k menu button around the panel in kde4.1? |
| 01:52.51 | [mors] | and nowall my msn contacts are duplicated. I can hide them by disabling offline users |
| 01:55.51 | Shirakawasuna | I wonder what the chances of getting kde-only icons in the tango project main collection would be... like a konqueror icon |
| 01:56.34 | [mors] | folks, something odd happened with kopete. Yesterday I added a msn account, all contacts where imported. The OS gave me some problem and I had to do a forced reset. Next time I opened kopete, after a new boot, kopete still had the contacts, but the msn account dissapeared. I added it again, and the contacts were imported again, and now all my msn contacts are duplicated. I can hide them by disabling offline users. what to do? |
| 01:56.35 | [mors] | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.45 | [mors] | oh |
| 01:56.50 | [mors] | sorry, wrong channel this time |
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| 02:05.35 | Jucato | Shirakawasuna, not possible atm. Tango and Oxygen conflict in artistic styles |
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| 02:08.15 | Shirakawasuna | Jucato: Oh yes, definitely, but I'm talking about a tango-ified konqueror icon, for instance. KDEmod/bctango (both on kde-look.org) had/have many tango-style icons for kde 3. I'm going to contact the bctango guy and see if he's working on one for kde 4 (to meet the freedesktop.org standards) |
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| 02:08.59 | philip888 | Hi can someone help me? |
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| 02:14.04 | hallowname | philip888: what's the problem? |
| 02:15.00 | philip888 | not a problem just a question. |
| 02:15.13 | hallowname | philip888: yes? |
| 02:16.07 | philip888 | is there an equivalent to "File Manager Super User Mode" in kde4? |
| 02:16.42 | hallowname | philip888: 'kdesu konqueror'? |
| 02:19.24 | Jucato | philip888: or copy and paste: `kde4-config --path libexec`/kdesu dolphin |
| 02:19.33 | Jucato | (replace dolphin with konqueror if you prefer) |
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| 02:29.21 | sputnick | what is the best way to find the kde version ? is there a dbus object for that ? |
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| 02:30.09 | sputnick | I can use "dkpg -l" but there's maybe a smarter solution (I'm on debian Lenny) |
| 02:30.50 | sputnick | I think that's it : |
| 02:30.52 | sputnick | kdebase 4:4.1.3-1 base applications from the official KDE release |
| 02:30.58 | Jucato | kde4-config --version or kde-config --version |
| 02:31.10 | Jucato | (kde4 and kde3 respectively) |
| 02:31.10 | sputnick | thanks |
| 02:31.16 | sputnick | I saw ;) |
| 02:31.25 | hallowname | Jucato: kde4-config masta... |
| 02:31.34 | Jucato | heh |
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| 02:33.03 | Fri13 | Hi, KDE RC1 and I cant find now the config to change KWin shadow color. I have set it to be black or using defaults and it is white/gray. System Settings > Colors > Colors > Active /Inacive Window Decoration change to black does not anymore help to situation. |
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| 02:33.41 | Jucato | Fri13, System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects, look for Shadow and then click on the wrench icon |
| 02:33.58 | Fri13 | Jucato: Does not help at all |
| 02:34.38 | Jucato | did you check perhaps opacity setting? |
| 02:35.35 | rmh3093 | how do i stop kde from locking my desktop after a period of time |
| 02:35.46 | Fri13 | Jucato: opacity settings on Shadow? Tried default 25% and then 0, 50 and 100% |
| 02:36.46 | Jucato | hm.. might be an RC1 bug.. not really sure sorry. I'm still on 4.1.3 |
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| 02:37.26 | Fri13 | Jucato: this was happening on Beta2 too, but it was only for active shadow what got blue shadow and not black. It was needed to get changed on the Colors settings like I told. |
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| 02:44.03 | rmh3093 | how do i stop kde from locking my desktop? |
| 02:44.23 | KDE4000 | mh |
| 02:44.33 | KDE4000 | my irc client goes crazy with all the hilights from "kde" |
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| 02:49.31 | Fri13 | rmh3093: KDE4 System Settings > Desktop > Screensaver > Lock Desktop |
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| 02:52.27 | animeloe | lol |
| 02:53.28 | breach | how can i kill s |
| 02:53.32 | breach | *kill X |
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| 02:53.38 | breach | i mean completely stop it |
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| 02:53.44 | animeloe | CTRL-ALT-BCKSP |
| 02:53.54 | breach | no. i dont want it to restart |
| 02:54.45 | Jucato | your distro may have a different way of doing it. please ask in their channel |
| 02:55.01 | Jucato | (or you can stop kdm, again depending on your distro) |
| 02:55.45 | breach | well, the problem is that just today kde became slow and unresponsive. i cant work with it at all. not sure if i should just reinstall or what. |
| 02:56.42 | Zorix | go to a terminal.. such as alt-ctrl-f1, login, switch to root, type /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
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| 02:58.08 | noelk | is there command to see what version of kde i have? |
| 02:58.35 | Zorix | there should be..dont know it though |
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| 02:59.58 | breach | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.01 | breach | noelk |
| 03:00.07 | Jucato | [10:33] <Jucato> kde4-config --version or kde-config --version |
| 03:00.08 | Jucato | [10:33] <Jucato> (kde4 and kde3 respectively) |
| 03:00.15 | Jucato | noelk: ^^^ |
| 03:00.38 | Jucato | if you have both KDE 3 and KDE 4 installed, that won't tell which is currently running |
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| 03:01.30 | Jucato | "echo $KDE_SESSION_VERSION" will return "4" if KDE 4 is the one running |
| 03:01.46 | breach | any way to troubleshoot why kde has become slow and unresponsive? |
| 03:02.18 | Zorix | probably some background task eating cpu or memory |
| 03:02.21 | breach | or any ideas on a solution |
| 03:02.21 | noelk | ah 4 came back |
| 03:02.32 | breach | Zorix: i have rebooted several times |
| 03:02.42 | Zorix | run top in bash |
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| 03:03.01 | breach | zorix: what am i looking for? |
| 03:03.16 | Zorix | processes that are using a lot of cpu or memory |
| 03:03.56 | breach | ok. how do i scroll down |
| 03:04.07 | Zorix | you dont need to |
| 03:04.08 | breach | i'm looking at VIRT, right? |
| 03:04.35 | Zorix | i dont remember the heading im not on my linux machine currently |
| 03:04.47 | breach | 1944 is the largest number right now |
| 03:04.48 | Zorix | what is the load avg |
| 03:04.54 | Zorix | what process |
| 03:05.01 | breach | init |
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| 03:05.22 | breach | kde isn't running right now, btw |
| 03:05.30 | Zorix | ok whats the load avg |
| 03:05.35 | breach | dunno what that is |
| 03:05.53 | breach | it's staying at 1944 |
| 03:05.56 | Zorix | run the uptime command or check on top line of top |
| 03:06.35 | breach | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:06.55 | breach | sry. i'm using the terminal right now. i don't have a window manager active |
| 03:07.21 | Zorix | check the system load average |
| 03:07.24 | Zorix | not process |
| 03:07.42 | Zorix | it should be near 0.00 for all three if you arent doing anything |
| 03:07.58 | breach | 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 |
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| 03:08.11 | Zorix | ok |
| 03:08.28 | Zorix | do you use a binary video driver for X |
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| 03:09.37 | emanuel | Does anybody know of a workaround for http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175643? Looks like it didn't make it to the RC. |
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| 03:10.48 | noelk | rc1 sweet no probs |
| 03:11.04 | Zorix | you can svn checkout the newest code and compile it yourself, emanuel |
| 03:11.08 | breach | Zorix: binary? as in did i install my video driver with a bin file? |
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| 03:11.26 | Zorix | nvidia or ati proprietary driver |
| 03:11.29 | breach | yeah |
| 03:11.47 | Zorix | could be part of it if its running mesa |
| 03:11.56 | breach | i'm running xorg |
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| 03:12.00 | breach | always have |
| 03:12.16 | Zorix | check /var/log/ for the X logfile and look for any entry in the log that has (EE) |
| 03:13.04 | Zorix | yes xorg is almost universally used now |
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| 03:13.29 | Ace2016_- | hi all |
| 03:13.34 | breach | just a sec |
| 03:13.35 | emanuel | Zorix: well, I didn't want to go that far. I thought there may be a way to change the default message sort order by touching config files. |
| 03:13.56 | Zorix | emanuel, it looks like it was a bug that was corrected with code changed |
| 03:14.06 | Ace2016_- | how can i customise the text colour of a plasma theme, the kicker replacement's active button's text colour |
| 03:14.45 | noelk | wow yall did awsome job on kde |
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| 03:15.04 | Zorix | check the appearance settings in the control center possibly Ace2016_- |
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| 03:16.05 | emanuel | My message sort order is different from the default since my config is getting updated from a previuos KDE version (I guess). |
| 03:19.27 | Ace2016_- | Zorix: so far i've looked only in the theme folder |
| 03:20.11 | Ace2016_- | if i change the plasma theme the text colour changes therefore it must be a setting within the theme rather than a system wide setting |
| 03:20.37 | Ace2016_- | although the colours in the colours file doesn't seem to correspond to the colour being displayed on the panel so i have little to go on |
| 03:21.56 | Ace2016_- | the conclusion i came to was the the colours file might be missing a section so i'm now going to compare the theme i'm modifying with other themes to see if i'm right |
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| 03:26.18 | Ace2016_- | copying the the entire contents of the colours file made the text colour white, now i only need to figure out which colours in the new file are lighter than the old one and then isolate the likely colour responsible for the panel text colour |
| 03:27.58 | Ace2016_- | its caused by ForegroundNormal= which i initially dismissed because its in the colours:window section |
| 03:28.13 | Ace2016_- | [Colors:Selection]* |
| 03:28.24 | Jucato | (or you could also ask in #plasma for help) |
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| 03:28.29 | Ace2016_- | no wait it is the [Colors:Window] section |
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| 03:28.57 | Ace2016_- | a surprisingly large number of users in there |
| 03:29.15 | Jucato | it's mostly a development channel, but since it's almost related to plasma theming |
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| 03:31.07 | Ace2016_- | thanks |
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| 03:37.30 | [mors] | hey folks |
| 03:37.45 | [mors] | how do I tell kate to use the tab char instead of spaces ? |
| 03:38.00 | [mors] | the option is right there on Configure>Editing but it does not work |
| 03:38.06 | [mors] | kate always uses spaces |
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| 03:38.15 | [mors] | and how do I tell kate not to save backups? |
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| 03:38.39 | [mors] | found backup option |
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| 04:10.14 | k1lumin4t1 | I have a problem using KDE4 when connecting an IPOD |
| 04:10.21 | k1lumin4t1 | when I eject it through GUI it won't disconnect propperly |
| 04:10.27 | k1lumin4t1 | I then have to do a cli eject |
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| 04:11.15 | GnuBoi | how to make kde3 apps look like kde4 |
| 04:13.02 | k1lumin4t1 | installing KDE4 |
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| 04:13.53 | ryanCH | how do you install more, Window Themes .. there is no import button in the Windows style area??? |
| 04:14.30 | drantin | don't you have to compile them and install them outside of KDE? |
| 04:14.40 | drantin | well, outside the gui |
| 04:14.46 | ryanCH | you do? |
| 04:15.00 | GnuBoi | k1lumin4t1: i have KDE4 but i want the program Konversation to look more like oxygen |
| 04:15.10 | drantin | well, widget sets do |
| 04:15.27 | drantin | dunno about the border themes for certain |
| 04:15.31 | k1lumin4t1 | GnuBoi, KDE4 themes won't work on KDE3 |
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| 04:17.03 | maxamillion | can kwin4 do the desktop on a cube and i'm just missing it or is that not something it does? |
| 04:17.24 | k1lumin4t1 | huh? |
| 04:18.00 | maxamillion | you know how compiz puts the virtual desktops on a cube ... is there any way to do that with kwin4? |
| 04:18.06 | k1lumin4t1 | oh, no |
| 04:18.15 | maxamillion | okies, i was just curious |
| 04:18.17 | k1lumin4t1 | it doesn't contemplate that effect, afaik |
| 04:18.30 | maxamillion | i like the desktop grid, that is nice also ... just figured i would ask |
| 04:19.01 | k1lumin4t1 | well compiz only |
| 04:20.59 | maxamillion | i enjoy compiz with gnome, but i'm trying kde4 for the first time and i'm attempting to be "kde-centric" ... using kopete and not pidgin, konqueror and not firefox, etc. |
| 04:21.42 | drantin | I know there's a sphere, but I haven't had the nvidia blob installed in a while (using xf86-video-nv atm) so I can't really check :/ |
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| 05:30.37 | mot_ | two questions...first, i was fiddling with settings and i switched the kde desktop from folder view to the "regular" (old) desktop style and now i can't add any widgets to the desktop (i.e. trash can) |
| 05:30.47 | mot_ | where i the settings can i reverse this? |
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| 05:32.07 | Dhraakellian | finds himself missing the mixer applet from KDE3's kicker |
| 05:32.07 | mot_ | also, what's the difference between 4.2rc2 and 4.1.4? |
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| 05:32.51 | Jucato | a lot |
| 05:32.56 | Dhraakellian | mot_: first question: right-click on the desktop > Desktop Settings |
| 05:33.04 | Dhraakellian | the combobox you seek should be there |
| 05:33.09 | Jucato | 4.1.4 is just a maintenance/bug fix release. 4.2 will be the new stable release with lots of new features |
| 05:33.11 | mot_ | Dhraakellian, there is no "desktop settings" just folder view. |
| 05:33.17 | Dhraakellian | and second: some of that depends how much your distro backported |
| 05:33.21 | White_Pelican | Jucato, are you aware of problems with rc 1 and running it in vbox? |
| 05:33.24 | Dhraakellian | but still, a lot |
| 05:33.36 | Jucato | White_Pelican: nope |
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| 05:33.43 | Dhraakellian | hmm... 4.2rc a fairly safe bet on Suse? |
| 05:33.49 | White_Pelican | maybe I should wait for the official release |
| 05:33.49 | Ace2016_- | i need help with window rules |
| 05:33.53 | mot_ | hmm, i think i just upgraded from 4.2rc1 to 4.1.3... |
| 05:33.56 | Ace2016_- | mplayer ignores them |
| 05:34.03 | Dhraakellian | downgraded? |
| 05:34.04 | mot_ | sorry, 4.1.4 |
| 05:34.11 | drantin | 4.1.4 ? |
| 05:34.19 | mot_ | ugh sorry i'm tired. |
| 05:34.20 | drantin | oh, it is out |
| 05:34.20 | Dhraakellian | mot_: 4.1.3 --> 4.1.4? |
| 05:34.22 | mot_ | yea. |
| 05:34.22 | Ace2016_- | no matter how hard i try to position the mplayer window it resizes itself and sticks itself in the middle of my screen |
| 05:34.24 | mot_ | yea |
| 05:34.38 | mot_ | i went from 4.1.3 to 4.1.4 i was under the impression that was 4.2rc1 and 4.2rc2 respectively |
| 05:34.42 | Jucato | mot_: you don't "upgrade" from 4.2rc1 to 4.1.3.. that's downgrading |
| 05:34.46 | Dhraakellian | should probably upgrade to 4.1.4 just so that he can say he's used KDE Ï+1 |
| 05:34.58 | mot_ | i thought that was just the weird naming convention they had until final release |
| 05:35.08 | mot_ | can i check my specific kde version then? |
| 05:35.12 | Dhraakellian | 4.2rc is 4.1.96, iirc? |
| 05:35.16 | Jucato | rc = release candidate |
| 05:35.19 | drantin | any kde's about screen |
| 05:35.20 | mot_ | yea |
| 05:35.24 | drantin | kde apps* |
| 05:35.26 | drantin | ' |
| 05:35.30 | Dhraakellian | mot_: in any KDE app, help > about KDE |
| 05:35.49 | drantin | hm, except a kde3 konversation ;) |
| 05:35.56 | Dhraakellian | yarr |
| 05:36.09 | mot_ | erm |
| 05:36.11 | Dhraakellian | mot_: in any KDE4 app, help > about KDE |
| 05:36.19 | mot_ | 4.1.96 (kde 4.2rc1) |
| 05:36.36 | mot_ | well, i saw that "4.1.4" was out on kde.org so i updated/upgraded and assumed that's what i was using. |
| 05:36.52 | Dhraakellian | just out of curiosity, what distro? |
| 05:36.57 | mot_ | kubuntu |
| 05:37.18 | mot_ | so, did i possible just install 4.2rc2 then if that's 4.1.96? |
| 05:37.30 | Tm_T | mot_: rc1 |
| 05:37.30 | mot_ | or, why is it still telling me kde4.2rc1 in the 'about' dialog? |
| 05:37.52 | Dhraakellian | KDE 4.1.3 = previous stable release |
| 05:37.54 | Jucato | because you upgraded (somehow) to rc1 |
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| 05:38.00 | Dhraakellian | KDE 4.1.4 = current stable release |
| 05:38.01 | drantin | is it just me, or does the topic just say rc is out, and not rc1? |
| 05:38.14 | Jucato | rc = release candidate = candidate for next release... |
| 05:38.25 | mot_ | ahh so i'm still using rc1 |
| 05:38.34 | mot_ | when is rc2 out, then? i could have sworn the timeline said today |
| 05:38.35 | Dhraakellian | KDE 4.2rc (ie. 4.2rc1) = current preview/testing release, soon to be stable |
| 05:38.40 | mot_ | which is why i assumed i was 4.2rc2 |
| 05:38.43 | Jucato | drantin: because rc2 may not come out so better stay safe with just "rc"? :) |
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| 05:38.58 | drantin | it said beta1 before! |
| 05:39.01 | Dhraakellian | drantin: they didn't call it WWI until the late 30s |
| 05:39.13 | Dhraakellian | oslt |
| 05:39.23 | Dhraakellian | drantin: two betas were planned |
| 05:39.48 | aseigo | indeed. twas the Great War. |
| 05:39.48 | Dhraakellian | according to the schedule, at least, only one RC is planned |
| 05:39.52 | aseigo | and we LIKED it like that. |
| 05:40.09 | White_Pelican | one rc sounds right as the official release is in 2 weeks |
| 05:40.10 | drantin | I'm not really complaining, I just thought it was referring to the version number since it didn't say "a KDE 4.2 rc" |
| 05:40.16 | Dhraakellian | aseigo: that weren't to end all wars |
| 05:40.22 | White_Pelican | not sure how I screwed up but I did |
| 05:40.28 | Tm_T | aseigo: I remember those times, I think, I was bit old so I kinda missed it back then |
| 05:40.33 | aseigo | lol |
| 05:40.49 | mot_ | well, i still have my original problem then....using 4.2rc1 and i switched from "folder view" to "desktop view" and now i have the "old style" kde3.x desktop, sans trash can and i can't add widgets to it |
| 05:41.06 | drantin | you mean an empty desktop? |
| 05:41.14 | mot_ | i mean |
| 05:41.16 | drantin | can you add the folderview widget back? |
| 05:41.20 | mot_ | a desktop with the contents of ~/Desktop |
| 05:41.24 | mot_ | nope, can't add widgets |
| 05:41.34 | mot_ | it's exactly the same interface as the kde 3.5.x desktop |
| 05:41.48 | mot_ | i've always hated folder view, i really just want a damned trashbin on the desktop |
| 05:42.09 | werdnum | what trash |
| 05:42.12 | mot_ | the menu that i used to make this change was only available in the settings of the folder view folder that i just got rid of |
| 05:42.24 | mot_ | here, i'll screenshot it. |
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| 05:43.22 | Dhraakellian | gyar... I need to get 4.2rc installed here so that I can set up per-desktop wallpapers |
| 05:43.24 | mot_ | wtf ksnapshot be damned |
| 05:43.31 | Dhraakellian | I can never tell which desktop I'm on |
| 05:43.35 | mot_ | printscr no longer brings up ksnapshot =\ |
| 05:44.31 | Ace2016_- | ok i need a new window management rule, how do i force one window to always be on top of another window and never allow itself to be covered by the window its supposed to be saying on top of, but other windows can cover it |
| 05:44.38 | Dhraakellian | You have to hold down the alt key with it... and type "REISUB" while holding them down |
| 05:44.41 | Dhraakellian | (note: don't do this) |
| 05:45.07 | werdnum | Dhraakellian: what does that do? |
| 05:45.42 | Dhraakellian | werdnum: forces the system to restart |
| 05:45.53 | mot_ | http://images.motbaillie.com/snapshot1.png <-- see what i mean? the desktop looks like the "normal" old style now and i have no clue how to get it back into folder view, the settings has disappeared :S |
| 05:45.54 | Dhraakellian | it's a last-ditch thing for when ctrl+alt+del won't respond |
| 05:46.05 | werdnum | Dhraakellian: you forgot about sysrq... |
| 05:46.17 | Dhraakellian | werdnum: same key as printscreen |
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| 05:46.41 | werdnum | oh, 05:43 < mot_> printscr no longer brings up ksnapshot =\ |
| 05:46.47 | werdnum | I missed that. |
| 05:46.53 | mot_ | werdnum, i got it |
| 05:46.57 | mot_ | it was sysreq not printscr |
| 05:47.14 | mot_ | i have two different keys believe it or not.. |
| 05:47.19 | werdnum | I is kill all, U is remount all, ro, B is reboot |
| 05:47.23 | werdnum | I forget what R, E are. |
| 05:47.25 | werdnum | looks up |
| 05:47.56 | Dhraakellian | R = take input back from X; E sends SIGTERM to all processes except init |
| 05:48.21 | Dhraakellian | I sends Sigkill |
| 05:48.38 | Dhraakellian | then Sync, Unmount, Reboot |
| 05:48.53 | Dhraakellian | reBoot, rather |
| 05:49.21 | mot_ | :S anybody see the screenshot i posted? |
| 05:49.51 | werdnum | sync shouldn't be needed if you're already remounting ro. |
| 05:50.09 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 05:50.19 | Dhraakellian | well, that's what the mnemonics say |
| 05:50.33 | Jucato | and what the ops say is "offtopic" ;) |
| 05:50.49 | werdnum | hmm? |
| 05:50.50 | _ChronoZ_ | the U stands for unmount, not remount |
| 05:51.03 | Dhraakellian | point taken and heeded |
| 05:51.06 | werdnum | Wikipedia says "Remount all mounted filesystems in read-only mode" |
| 05:51.30 | Tm_T | Jucato: who, where? |
| 05:51.47 | Jucato | Tm_T: them, here, now |
| 05:51.51 | Dhraakellian | http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7859/20090106darkbluedebdomitf8.png |
| 05:52.12 | Tm_T | Jucato: I see no ops |
| 05:52.21 | Jucato | ok one op |
| 05:52.24 | Jucato | happy? |
| 05:52.31 | Dhraakellian | my thanks to style designers who make considerations for dark color schemes |
| 05:52.35 | Tm_T | Jucato: no |
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| 05:52.50 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: indeed |
| 05:52.52 | *** mode/#kde [+o Jucato] by ChanServ |
| 05:52.56 | Tm_T | Jucato: now happy |
| 05:52.59 | Jucato | now happy? |
| 05:53.01 | Jucato | good |
| 05:53.04 | Tm_T | <3 |
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| 05:53.08 | *** mode/#kde [-oo Jucato Tm_T] by Tm_T |
| 05:53.10 | Dhraakellian | ,':-| |
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| 05:53.40 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: I just met my son after years being apart <3 |
| 05:55.03 | Dhraakellian | ah, frackit. |
| 05:55.19 | Dhraakellian | clicks the OCI link to upgrade to 4.2rc |
| 05:55.49 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: btw have you found any way to import KDE3 color schemes to KDE4 ? |
| 05:56.04 | Dhraakellian | haven't looked into it |
| 05:56.10 | Jucato | yeah. using 10 fingers (or 2, depending on how you type) |
| 05:56.32 | Dhraakellian | Jucato: or 9 if you only use one thumb on the spacebar |
| 05:56.39 | Jucato | 8 |
| 05:56.47 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: aye, seems like there's no other way than doing it manually |
| 05:57.10 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 05:57.35 | Dhraakellian | kde4-webkitpart, kde4-yakuake, and ktorrent are included in the ymp, but they're not selected by default |
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| 05:58.50 | GnuBoi_ | how to disable desktop effects from konsole |
| 05:59.45 | GnuBoi_ | as i enabled the desktop effects the kde hangs now when i login it starts to enable desktop effect so i want to disable from command line |
| 06:01.56 | Dhraakellian | find the appropriate KWin config file? |
| 06:03.16 | rdieter | in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc (or ~/.kde4/... depending on distro) |
| 06:04.13 | GnuBoi_ | rdieter i have written there false now let me check.. |
| 06:04.31 | rdieter | in [Compositing], Enabled=false, yeah |
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| 06:10.17 | Dhraakellian | is it just me, or does ^U seem to not work quite so universally anymore? |
| 06:11.32 | ryanCH | why has KDE, strive so much to make kde desktop look so much like VISTA? :( |
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| 06:14.34 | Tm_T | ryanCH: it doesn't look like Vista to me |
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| 06:21.41 | Tm_T | ryanCH: like to tell me what part in this looks like vista? http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png |
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| 06:24.01 | Dhraakellian | Tm_T: a) what's the stuff at the bottom of the left panel? b) thought those were Daleks at first glance, even after reading the bit about the Nazis |
| 06:25.01 | [GRS] | haha that desktop image is amazing XD |
| 06:25.12 | [GRS] | MOONNAZIS! |
| 06:26.53 | Dhraakellian | cd ~ |
| 06:27.10 | Dhraakellian | dang. that scrollwheel not affecting focus thing still gets me |
| 06:27.22 | Tm_T | [GRS]: it's "Iron Sky" movie |
| 06:27.33 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: you mean digital clock? |
| 06:28.51 | Dhraakellian | I had wondered if it was a binary clock, but it didn't really look like it |
| 06:28.55 | [GRS] | okey that i definetly gotta see |
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| 06:29.21 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: It's a digital clock definately (: |
| 06:29.32 | Dhraakellian | wierd font? |
| 06:29.48 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: nothing weird in it (; |
| 06:30.59 | Dhraakellian | are we looking at the same thing, or are your standards of weird even crazier than mine? |
| 06:31.23 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: apparently |
| 06:32.20 | Tm_T | Dhraakellian: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aurebesh |
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| 06:41.46 | the_p | hello. i have problems with sounds that are cut off the last second is not played i experience this in amarok juk with the start sound of kde. I'm using kde 4.1.3. |
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| 06:43.35 | Dhraakellian | I can corroborate with the startup (and shutdown/logout too, iirc) sound |
| 06:43.42 | Dhraakellian | other than that, I turned sounds off |
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| 06:44.19 | Dhraakellian | haven't noticed it with music though, but I haven't been using Amarok2 |
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| 06:45.55 | bluecode | is there going to be kdevelop in the 4.2 release? |
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| 07:05.52 | naught101 | where/how can I change this? |
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| 07:24.30 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 07:41.03 | indietrash | hey can anyone tell me the differences between 3.5.9 and 3.5.10, and if I should upgrade? |
| 07:41.14 | werdnum | indietrash: have you heard of a changelog? |
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| 07:41.33 | werdnum | It's where we write exactly that when we release a new version of some software |
| 07:42.03 | indietrash | werdnum: yes. but it is undoubtedly easier just asking someone who have used it. so if you are going to be an arse about it, just don't mind me ;) |
| 07:42.47 | werdnum | I wasn't trying to be a smartass. |
| 07:42.53 | werdnum | I thought you might not have used one before. |
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| 07:43.32 | annma | indietrash: all minor increase is only bug fix |
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| 07:43.54 | indietrash | werdnum: oh. well I have in fact heard of changelogs. written several of them ;) but right now I was just wondering if any one could tell me if there were any changes worth mentioning. |
| 07:43.58 | annma | indietrash: so 3.5.9 to 3.5.10 will only bring bugfixes + translation improvements |
| 07:44.11 | annma | there were also PIM additions |
| 07:44.30 | indietrash | annma: I realise that but I was wondering if there were any noteworthy bugfixes. |
| 07:44.41 | annma | in general you can only benefit from minor version increase and you should always use latest possible |
| 07:44.46 | freeedrich| | and what about kicker improvements? I weren't only bugfixes. |
| 07:44.52 | annma | I don't know the changelog by heart though |
| 07:45.01 | freeedrich| | *It |
| 07:45.02 | annma | but if we released then there was something worth |
| 07:45.15 | annma | freeedrich|: which ones? |
| 07:45.48 | indietrash | meh. I'm actually giving in and reading the changelog now. |
| 07:46.04 | indietrash | btw 3.5.10 is masked in portage so I thought it might be something odd about it |
| 07:46.17 | freeedrich| | annma: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_9to3_5_10.php |
| 07:46.26 | annma | point to indietrash |
| 07:46.27 | drantin | indietrash: lazy gentoo devs |
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| 07:46.43 | annma | freeedrich|: I talked in general |
| 07:47.10 | freeedrich| | indietrash: so 3.5.9 to 3.5.10 will only bring bugfixes + translation improvements <- doesn't sound too general. |
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| 07:47.50 | indietrash | freeedrich|: I noticed some nice kicker things in the changelog |
| 07:47.56 | annma | freeedrich|: you can see kicker improvements as bug fixes |
| 07:47.56 | freeedrich| | indietrash: all minor increase is only bug fix y- neither does that. |
| 07:48.00 | freeedrich| | indietrash: yeah :) |
| 07:48.07 | annma | considering the sate kicker was in |
| 07:48.10 | annma | state |
| 07:48.11 | freeedrich| | annma: Oh yeah.. Sure. |
| 07:48.14 | annma | see |
| 07:48.33 | freeedrich| | That's why they differentiate between "improvements" and "Bugfixes" there, because you can see them as the same, right? |
| 07:48.34 | freeedrich| | ... |
| 07:49.11 | drantin | absence of the improvements is a bug, ergo, improvements are bug fixes! |
| 07:49.31 | freeedrich| | drantin: :D so always summer in trunk then ;) |
| 07:50.27 | indietrash | btw does anyone in here happen to know why xcompmgr is FAEL in my openbox? I have a vid that details the errors, but uhm there's no one in #openbox :p |
| 07:50.46 | indietrash | I don't run openbox in KDE btw. just standalone with no DE. |
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| 08:03.34 | annma | people: great news http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt |
| 08:03.45 | annma | be sitted before reading |
| 08:04.34 | indietrash | I don't like lgpl/bsd/whatever licenses really. |
| 08:04.44 | annma | don't read then |
| 08:05.01 | annma | if you don't understand licenses or don't "like" them |
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| 08:06.47 | drantin | there's more than just license talk there! |
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| 08:07.04 | drantin | the repos are going public too |
| 08:07.09 | annma | yes |
| 08:09.24 | indietrash | annma: I meant I don't like public domain licenses |
| 08:09.28 | indietrash | not licenses in general |
| 08:10.25 | annma | anyway we won't debate about it, it's just a news I pasted here |
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| 08:10.40 | annma | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090114-nokia-qt-lgpl-switch-huge-win-for-cross-platform-development.html |
| 08:11.24 | Beineri | http://digg.com/linux_unix/LGPL_License_Option_Added_to_Qt |
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| 08:15.45 | Shrp_ | hey guys using KDE4 4.1 |
| 08:15.53 | Shrp_ | every time i log out from kde |
| 08:15.56 | Shrp_ | it crashes |
| 08:16.10 | Shrp_ | i get a neopmunk server crash |
| 08:16.55 | Shrp_ | running on slackware 12.2 |
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| 08:17.42 | drantin | was nepomuk usable in 4.1? |
| 08:18.01 | Shrp_ | no clue :( |
| 08:19.26 | Kame2 | Shrp_: nvidia card? |
| 08:19.29 | Shrp_ | yep |
| 08:19.34 | Kame2 | same for me |
| 08:19.46 | Shrp_ | i am running the beat driver though |
| 08:19.46 | freeedrich| | Oh yeah, it's probably related... |
| 08:19.52 | freeedrich| | ... |
| 08:20.00 | freeedrich| | Nepomuk works in kde 4.1. |
| 08:20.03 | Shrp_ | since the stable release had a bug and wouldnt even compile |
| 08:20.41 | Shrp_ | *beta |
| 08:20.41 | Shrp_ | for the nvidia driver |
| 08:20.57 | Kame2 | on intel and ati i nerver get problems with nepomuk, but on the computer with nvidia card, it crashes on every logout |
| 08:21.04 | Shrp_ | same |
| 08:21.09 | Kame2 | (old nvidia legacy) |
| 08:21.13 | Shrp_ | logout/restart/shutdown |
| 08:21.18 | Shrp_ | crashes |
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| 08:30.27 | werdnum | Hey, plasma seems to be pegging my CPU |
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| 08:31.04 | Dolo | hey i installed kde |
| 08:31.06 | annma | what kde version |
| 08:31.09 | annma | werdnum: ^^ |
| 08:31.09 | werdnum | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.09 | werdnum | 17725 andrew 20 0 397m 204m 30m S 28.9 13.5 85:55.83 firefox |
| 08:31.09 | werdnum | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.15 | werdnum | KDE nightly from neon |
| 08:31.17 | Dolo | how do i switch from gnomes to kde desktop managemnet |
| 08:31.28 | annma | werdnum: you just installed today? |
| 08:31.28 | Dolo | after kde desktops installed |
| 08:31.35 | werdnum | annma: no, a few weeks ago |
| 08:31.49 | annma | werdnum: and it was always like that? |
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| 08:32.00 | werdnum | I think so, yeah. |
| 08:32.09 | annma | Dolo: ask your distribution channel, you should have the choice in your login manager |
| 08:32.14 | werdnum | I've just been noticing it more recently because I've been using this laptopmore often. |
| 08:32.18 | annma | werdnum: update maybe and try a new user |
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| 08:35.11 | werdnum | annma: okay, thanks. Any suggestions for figuring out what it's spending its time doing? |
| 08:35.54 | annma | depends on what you have first as plasmoids |
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| 08:37.19 | Dolo | thank you |
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| 08:41.51 | werdnum | annma: I did have power, CPU monitors, but I just got rid of them, to no avail |
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| 08:42.24 | annma | werdnum: update to latest |
| 08:42.31 | annma | there's nothing that should do that |
| 08:43.02 | annma | or can't you install rc? |
| 08:43.24 | werdnum | rc? |
| 08:43.43 | annma | 4.2 rc 'release candidate) |
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| 08:43.57 | annma | probably kubuntu will have packages |
| 08:44.40 | jbrouault | hi |
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| 08:45.56 | werdnum | oh, maybe. |
| 08:45.59 | werdnum | shrugs. |
| 08:46.14 | werdnum | I just installed neon when I needed a KDE 4.2+ and the packages weren't out yet |
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| 08:47.40 | rohan | why is phonon given version number 4.2.96, whereas all others are 4.1.96, in the RC release? |
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| 08:52.07 | Dolo | in kde where do you set it so you can have differnt wall paper on each desktop |
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| 08:55.12 | Dolo | used to be in desktop sttings |
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| 08:55.30 | Dolo | i dont see any way to change wallpaper without it changing on all the desktops |
| 08:56.30 | pinotree | rohan: because phonon is an own software with own releases (and no need to ask in multiple channels, just ask once and be patient) |
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| 08:58.40 | rohan | pinotree: sorry |
| 08:59.13 | naught101 | anyone know how to change the defaul handler for the man: protocol in kde? |
| 08:59.17 | naught101 | default |
| 08:59.26 | Kame2 | Dolo: this is currently only possible with direct modification of the config-file as it is experminelt for now. should be avaible in 4.3 |
| 08:59.39 | pinotree | naught101: what do you want to change it to? |
| 09:00.02 | naught101 | pinotree: somehow it's changed to quanta, and I just want to set it back to konversation |
| 09:00.22 | pinotree | ?? konversation does not handle man: links |
| 09:00.37 | Dolo | u know what i mean though it used to be in desktop settings |
| 09:00.43 | pinotree | (as in, it does not show thm by itself) |
| 09:00.58 | Dolo | you could choose which desktop the wallpaper was for ? instead of it all being the same? |
| 09:01.17 | Dolo | Kame2: you know what i mean? |
| 09:01.24 | Kame2 | Dolo: in 3.5 yes. in 4.X currently not |
| 09:01.31 | Kame2 | i know |
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| 09:01.56 | Dolo | is there something wrong with it they took it out? |
| 09:02.05 | Dolo | is changing that config difficult? |
| 09:02.36 | Dolo | i dont know why theyd take that out |
| 09:02.47 | Kame2 | they have written the new desktop from scratch so they don't remove it, but not added it yet |
| 09:03.00 | Dolo | ohhhh |
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| 09:03.32 | Dolo | i had gnome was on ubuntu was horrible |
| 09:03.33 | Kame2 | Dolo: which version of kde do you use? |
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| 09:03.58 | Dolo | i cam back to fedora and now i cant hook it up like before |
| 09:04.08 | Dolo | whatver the newest version is |
| 09:04.13 | Dolo | desktop 4 |
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| 09:04.15 | Kame2 | would be 4.1 |
| 09:04.26 | Dolo | i got it from yumex |
| 09:04.39 | Kame2 | in this version there is no way to have different wallpapers for virtual desktops |
| 09:04.53 | Dolo | thats so lame |
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| 09:05.38 | Dolo | part of reason i hated gnome |
| 09:05.57 | Kame2 | it takes some time, to add the features and there was some more importend before. i will come, but it takes some time |
| 09:06.05 | Kame2 | *it |
| 09:06.11 | rohan | or use kde3 in the meanwhile |
| 09:06.16 | Kame2 | right |
| 09:06.20 | spectral_ | yeah because having different wallpapers on different desktops is a really vital function.. can't live without it etc |
| 09:06.21 | Dolo | can i uninstall and downgrade |
| 09:06.35 | Dolo | well its not vital |
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| 09:07.03 | Dolo | but what i like to do is setup some widgets and differnt wallpapers so i have 4 specific desktops |
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| 09:07.26 | naught101 | pinotree: sorry, I meant konqueror |
| 09:07.26 | Dolo | all the shorcuts and wallpapers differnt depending on what im working on |
| 09:07.43 | Dolo | so i use the 4 desktops as 4 seprate work spaces |
| 09:07.53 | Kame2 | Dolo: maybe wait for 4.2 which will come on 27.01. and then change your config file. it's just one line. but keep in mind that it is experimental and my include some bugs |
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| 09:08.25 | pinotree | naught101: are you sure also the global browser for kde is not changed? |
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| 09:08.40 | Dolo | sall good its not vital just was glad to have my old kde back wanted to set it all up tongih |
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| 09:10.18 | naught101 | pinotree: my default is firefox, but man worked in konversation with firefox as default in both kde3.5.9 and kde4.1 |
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| 09:15.10 | Dolo | thank you for all your help |
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| 09:21.30 | knusperfrosch | what's going wrong here? http://imagebin.org:80/35753 |
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| 09:22.09 | pinotree | knusperfrosch: iirc that's a known kubuntu problem (so #kubuntu) |
| 09:22.40 | knusperfrosch | pinotree: thx |
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| 09:35.38 | wschlich | heyho |
| 09:36.32 | wschlich | I have a problem with PowerDevil: it fails to lock the screen, but instead a notification area continously appears (one after another) on top of the screen saying "The screen is being locked" |
| 09:36.46 | wschlich | using kde 4.1.3 + powerdevil 1.4.2 |
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| 09:46.15 | naught101 | pinotree: no idea? |
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| 09:46.35 | Salze_ | wschlich: I have the same effect on one computer. |
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| 09:51.20 | knusperfrosch | is kwin4 known to crash when activating a external VGA with xrandr? |
| 09:51.46 | knusperfrosch | i'm using 4.2rc1 and i think i had this in beta1 and 2 too |
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| 09:52.36 | Salze_ | Yes, I have had that same issuse with beta 1, beta 2 and now rc. |
| 09:52.56 | knusperfrosch | is there already a bug? |
| 09:53.47 | Salze_ | Now with rc I have even more graphic problems (ugly "misdrawings" - sorry, don't know any better in english) than with beta 2. |
| 09:54.09 | aseigo | Salze_: screen shot? |
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| 09:55.16 | rabauke | does anyone else use latest digikam svn and get a "Volume" item in the solid notifier, which just opens digikam? |
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| 09:56.49 | Salze_ | aseigo: http://imagebin.ca/view/X77hfh.html |
| 09:57.33 | Salze_ | aseigo: In the upper left corner of the screenshot (a little hard to see) and in the upper right corner of the window. |
| 09:58.15 | knusperfrosch | aseigo: http://imagebin.org:80/35756 |
| 09:58.55 | aseigo | yes, that is graphics driver problems |
| 09:59.17 | pusling | aseigo: did you remember not to serve ketchup ? |
| 09:59.22 | aseigo | if you're using nvidia, they have a new release that will be out with KDE 4.2.0 |
| 09:59.25 | knusperfrosch | intel |
| 09:59.33 | Salze_ | Intel |
| 09:59.35 | aseigo | pusling: not with eggs in the morning? ;) |
| 09:59.43 | aseigo | sycks |
| 09:59.45 | aseigo | er, sucks |
| 09:59.46 | Salze_ | And I had less problems with beta 2 of KDE. |
| 10:00.03 | Kame2 | knusperfrosch: i noticed those errors in 4.1 on intel |
| 10:00.06 | aseigo | i've had some serious issues with suse 11.1 and the intel dirvers |
| 10:00.09 | aseigo | er, drivers |
| 10:00.13 | aseigo | which isn't good |
| 10:00.24 | knusperfrosch | my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/d69193ae0 |
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| 10:01.02 | Kame2 | started some days ago and went more and more since them... |
| 10:01.12 | knusperfrosch | i915 module on 2.6.27-9-generic with 82852/855GM |
| 10:01.20 | knusperfrosch | Kame2: started half a year ago ;) |
| 10:01.38 | Kame2 | most times in kwrite or kate |
| 10:01.38 | zak_ | knusperfrosch: can you help me with a script please? |
| 10:01.45 | Kame2 | but yesterday also in dolphin |
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| 10:02.38 | zak_ | hein? |
| 10:02.45 | wschlich | Salze_: I have it on 2 computers (both Gentoo) |
| 10:02.48 | knusperfrosch | zak_: never seen you before but bring it on ;) |
| 10:02.54 | zak_ | :) |
| 10:02.56 | wschlich | Salze_: any ideas/solutions? |
| 10:03.24 | wschlich | Salze_: both machines have nvidia binary drivers if that does anyhow matter |
| 10:04.00 | Kame2 | wschlich: i am on gentoo to. i think it startes after the qt update (4.4.2 -> 4.4.2-r1) qt-gui i think |
| 10:04.40 | zak_ | knusperfrosch: http://pastebin.be/16051 |
| 10:05.08 | zak_ | knusperfrosch: i used this script on kde3.x now iam on kde4 , it surely needs soem changes :) |
| 10:05.25 | Salze_ | wschlich: None, sorry. I don't care too much about the kwin crash, since after crashing once it works fine. I guess multi-monitor-support just isn't really ready/done. |
| 10:05.44 | wschlich | Salze_: nothing crashes here... |
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| 10:06.14 | Salze_ | wschlich: Oh, sorry - I thought you were talking about the kwin crash after calling xrandr. |
| 10:06.30 | wschlich | Salze_: no, powerdevil "the screen is being locked" issue |
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| 10:07.03 | Salze_ | wschlich: Sorry, my mistake. I haven't investigated further. Strangely I have observed it only on one machine, not on the other. |
| 10:08.05 | wschlich | Salze_: ok, thanks anyway :) |
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| 10:08.10 | wschlich | Salze_: nvidia binary drivers? |
| 10:08.20 | Salze_ | No. |
| 10:08.45 | Salze_ | One machine on an X40 with Intel graphics, the other is a virtual machine running on VMware ESX. |
| 10:10.35 | zak_ | knusperfrosch: ? |
| 10:10.38 | Jucato | zak_: you need to change: 1. ~/.kde locations to the proper ones (~/.kde4 or ~/.kde depending on distro. you can use "kde4-config --localprefix" instead) |
| 10:10.55 | Jucato | zak_: 2. change kde-config --prefix to kde4-config --prefix |
| 10:11.25 | Jucato | zak_: 3. and take note that by default, KDE 4 uses SplashX engine. that may or may not matter at all |
| 10:11.37 | zak_ | means? |
| 10:11.58 | Jucato | huh? |
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| 10:12.46 | zak_ | Jucato: ''and take note that by default, KDE 4 uses SplashX engine. that may or may not matter at all'' <------ i did not see what you want to tell me :| |
| 10:13.59 | Jucato | zak_: I'm just saying to take that fact into account. which may not matter since you completely overwrite the ksplashrc file. but note that the default KDE splash theme might not work without the Engine= line in the config file |
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| 10:14.17 | doc__ | hi there |
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| 10:15.08 | Jucato | zak_: oh, the format of ksplashrc might have changed. it may now require that Engine= line |
| 10:17.07 | zak_ | Jucato: thak you very much for the help |
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| 10:18.03 | tenaglia | Hi everybody |
| 10:19.30 | tenaglia | I use kde 4.1 on my laptop, when I use an external LCD monitor the image is a bit blurry, while on the laptop itself is ok. Do you have any hints? Probably it's more Xorg-related than kde.. |
| 10:19.58 | Zarin | knusperfrosch, are you using the one tagged RC1 or the latest SVN? |
| 10:20.17 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: rc1 on kubuntu, svn on gentoo |
| 10:20.28 | Zarin | The Kephal guys committed some fixes for multi-monitor yesterday |
| 10:20.35 | Zarin | They are not in RC 1 |
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| 10:20.47 | Zarin | What revision is your Gentoo? |
| 10:20.56 | Zarin | r910287+? |
| 10:21.06 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: nope, but got noc multimonitor setup on gentoo |
| 10:21.06 | Zarin | That is the revision the changes were made on |
| 10:21.32 | knusperfrosch | kubuntu=laptop with intel graphics, gentoo=desktop with ati graphics |
| 10:21.55 | knusperfrosch | zak_: i still had to change the path for the themes on kubuntu |
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| 10:24.47 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: looks like i should give neon a try |
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| 10:27.12 | Zarin | knusperfrosch, if you can test it and give confirmation on whether it fixes it or not I'll give you one massively huge cookie |
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| 10:29.31 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: damn, coockies... *slobber* :D |
| 10:29.39 | knusperfrosch | -c |
| 10:30.34 | Zarin | Or a large amount of smaller cookies if you are that way inclined |
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| 10:41.23 | zak_ | trying to install a new ksplash theme i got this error ''This theme requires the plugin Default which is not installed'' waht package shall i download? |
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| 10:54.14 | zak_ | wah packages shall i install to get Moodin on kde4 ? |
| 10:54.22 | zak_ | waht package shall i install to get Moodin on kde4 ? |
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| 10:55.22 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: gimme a cookie, kwin4 works ;) |
| 10:55.55 | primary | anyone know a fedora 10 channel? |
| 10:55.56 | pinotree | zak_: moodin is not a software we develop directly, so you need to ask in the channel of your distro for packages |
| 10:56.06 | pinotree | primary: like #fedora ? |
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| 10:56.10 | pfee | Hi, installed KDE 4.2 rc1 on kubuntu. Systray is hiding all icons, yet settings shows them all in the "visible icons" list. Is this a known issue? Is there a workaround? |
| 10:56.10 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: no crash when turning the external monitor on |
| 10:56.34 | primary | hey good call. im just having a weird problem. i can use irc, and i can ping everything, but i cant surf |
| 10:56.45 | reavertm | pfee: trunk here, no such problems |
| 10:56.45 | primary | fedora 10 :( |
| 10:57.02 | zak_ | pinotree: ok:) |
| 10:57.12 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: i hope these changes will be included in the final release |
| 10:57.14 | pfee | reavertm: was previously working fine on 4.2 beta2 |
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| 10:57.49 | zak_ | pinotree: i also get this any idea ''This theme requires the plugin Default which is not installed.'' ? |
| 10:58.00 | pinotree | what is "this theme"? |
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| 10:58.31 | zak_ | ksplash theme i used to use on kde3.x |
| 10:58.49 | pfee | reavertm: Would there be suitable files to delete under ~/.kde that could poke it back into shape? |
| 10:58.57 | pinotree | kde3 and kde4 ksplash themes are NOT compatible |
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| 10:59.26 | reavertm | pfee: no need for .kde files removal - just try with clean account (create temporary one) |
| 10:59.46 | Salze_ | knusperfrosch: What did you do to get rid of the crash with multimonitor-support? |
| 10:59.55 | pfee | reavertm: that's a better idea, I'll try that. |
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| 11:00.23 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: installed the neon packages |
| 11:00.33 | zak_ | pinotree: ok got it :)thank you :) |
| 11:00.57 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: in case you're using kubuntu add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main" to your sources.list |
| 11:01.09 | Salze_ | knusperfrosch: Thank you! I will try. |
| 11:01.21 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: then install kde-nightly, logout and switch sessiontype to kde-neon |
| 11:01.42 | Zarin | knusperfrosch, yup, they are in 4.2.0 final |
| 11:01.50 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: hooray! |
| 11:01.52 | Zarin | gives a virtual cookie to knusperfrosch |
| 11:01.56 | Salze_ | "apt-get install kde-nightly" that is? |
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| 11:03.03 | Salze_ | Will I then have installed two versions of kde? What will happen to my settings? |
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| 11:03.27 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: kde-nightly get's installed to /opt, your settings should be in .kde-neon |
| 11:03.38 | mips | Qt 4.5 will be LGPL which is pretty good news for today. |
| 11:04.09 | Salze_ | So I have two separate kde-versions with separate settings? |
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| 11:04.31 | Ward1983 | does anyone happen to know how long k3b takes to erase a CD the slow way? |
| 11:04.35 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: right, except you rename .kde to .kde-neon |
| 11:04.52 | Salze_ | Ok, thank you for your help! |
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| 11:05.54 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: np |
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| 11:08.37 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: k, so kwin crash is fixed but i915 still forgets sometimes to repaint the background. |
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| 11:08.59 | Zarin | What background? |
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| 11:09.30 | mips | Zarin, I think he means the desktop background, happens on my laptop. |
| 11:09.31 | knusperfrosch | Zarin: something like that http://pastebin.com/d69193ae0 |
| 11:10.34 | Salze_ | Wrong url? |
| 11:10.47 | knusperfrosch | Salze_: right |
| 11:11.08 | knusperfrosch | http://imagebin.org:80/35756 |
| 11:11.43 | knusperfrosch | you should see a shiny wallpaper and a folderview on the left screen. aseigo said the intel graphics driver fails. |
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| 11:13.19 | knusperfrosch | that's my favorite: http://imagebin.org:80/35763 |
| 11:13.53 | Salze_ | :-) |
| 11:13.56 | Zarin | Pretty |
| 11:14.00 | Salze_ | Looks familiar. |
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| 11:23.50 | pfee | reavertm: Tried KDE from a fresh account, systray contents still hidden. |
| 11:24.54 | mips | Are there any devs here? |
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| 11:25.17 | Tm_T | mips: sure is at times atleast |
| 11:25.31 | pfee | Also, plasma has a habit of forgetting the widgets that are placed inside the panel. |
| 11:26.01 | mips | Was wondering why KDE does not get packaged like KDEmod? |
| 11:26.16 | reavertm | pfee: you seem to have something really broken |
| 11:26.18 | Tm_T | mips: what is KDEmod? |
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| 11:26.29 | reavertm | arch linux kde modification |
| 11:26.35 | pfee | Perhaps it isn't writing the panel/widget data to disk until a graceful exit, hence if it crashes, it loses the data. |
| 11:26.42 | mips | Arch specific release of KDE where the completely modularise the meta packages |
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| 11:27.05 | Tm_T | mips: hmm, what's the difference really? |
| 11:27.11 | reavertm | mips: well gentoo do it as well (maybe even to to greater extend) |
| 11:27.53 | mips | Tim_T, less clutter, lighter system |
| 11:28.13 | mips | reavertm, I'm not going back to gentoo :) |
| 11:28.16 | reavertm | besides there's already disuccion on kde-core-devel about more flexible buildsystem |
| 11:28.30 | Tm_T | mips: who is this Tim ? |
| 11:28.39 | mips | reavertm, I hope they look at kdemod as I think that is how kde should be packaged |
| 11:28.57 | pfee | reavertm: Yes :( but I try to avoid tinkering outside my home directory. So files elsewhere should all be determined by the packages I've installed. If this isn't a well known issue, then it may be unique to my broken setup. |
| 11:29.16 | mips | Tm_T apologies, my eyes are deceiving me. |
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| 11:29.25 | Jucato | what may make sense for binary packages may not be the same for source packages. KDE does not create/release binary packages, only source |
| 11:29.25 | Tm_T | mips: (;) |
| 11:29.28 | reavertm | mips: use |
| 11:29.32 | reavertm | <tab> |
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| 11:32.07 | reavertm | regarding more flexible buildsystem, I don't neccessarily like aseigo's idea of splitting kdelibs |
| 11:32.08 | bughunter2 | it won't even show a splash screen, it just goes back to the kdm screen |
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| 11:44.30 | Salze_ | knusperfrosch: I tried kde-nightly and have no kwin crash, too. But the graphics errors (distortions...don't know any better in english) are even worse then on rc. Nice tip with kde-nightly, anyways. I didn't know it installs in parallel and therefor haven't tried before. |
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| 13:16.18 | Takahani | ups |
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| 13:24.21 | Guest86935 | is it possible to run Konversation under proxy ? |
| 13:24.49 | annma | did you try? |
| 13:25.05 | Guest86935 | yes i tried on my college PC |
| 13:25.13 | Guest86935 | its not working |
| 13:25.17 | annma | usually when I answer yes, the user will say 'but this..' |
| 13:25.28 | Guest86935 | have u tried this ? |
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| 13:25.44 | annma | don't they block the port or something? |
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| 13:26.26 | Guest86935 | they r not doing so....They gave us option 2 bypass proxy |
| 13:26.49 | Guest86935 | but i don wish 2 bypass proxy... |
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| 13:27.16 | Guest86935 | Do u know on which port Konversation works ? |
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| 13:38.16 | robin0800 | Guest86935: have a look under server mine says 8001 |
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| 13:39.51 | aapzak | kubuntu here: I just got upgraded to 4.1.96 (RC1), and now I no longer have many dialogs: quit menu, run command. Also the screenlock doesn't work anymore. Maybe a missed dependency? |
| 13:39.53 | Guest86935 | robin0800: can we set proxy setting 4 konversation ? |
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| 13:40.57 | rabauke | maybe it uses the general kde proxy settings |
| 13:41.59 | robin0800 | Guest86935: dont know dont think so |
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| 13:42.38 | robin0800 | Guest86935: you can change the port number |
| 13:42.39 | Jucato | aapzak: you might want to ask in #kubuntu as you might have a botched upgrade |
| 13:43.24 | aapzak | Jucato: thanks, I there right now but we're getting nowhere. I hoped someone inhere would yell instantly : you're missing this or that! |
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| 13:44.50 | aapzak | o well, locking with xlockmore for now :) |
| 13:46.04 | Jucato | aapzak: the only thing I can think of is a missing kdeworkspace or plasma package. I think someone in here mentioned earlier that there were some problems with the Kubuntu packages |
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| 13:46.15 | m_tadeu | hi everyone |
| 13:46.55 | m_tadeu | the weather plasmoid is crashing plasma without a krash report |
| 13:47.11 | Tm_T | m_tadeu: hmmm, when cursor gets over it? |
| 13:47.18 | m_tadeu | Tm_T: yup |
| 13:47.31 | Tm_T | m_tadeu: and having what distro/Qt ? |
| 13:47.39 | m_tadeu | I see it's not new :) |
| 13:48.04 | cb400f | nhnFreespirit: got any plans for Wednesday January 28? ;-) ... pusling and I are contemplating a little 4.2 releaseparty at the Frederiksberg SSLUG meeting at CBS.. maybe you'd like to join and give a short end-user-oriented presentation of amarok2.0.1.. or 2.0.1++ or whatever ;-) |
| 13:48.26 | aapzak | Jucato: I just found out that invoking the run command dialog from right clicking the desktop works |
| 13:48.29 | m_tadeu | kubuntu8.10 using kde4.2rc1...with qt4.4.3 |
| 13:48.49 | Tm_T | m_tadeu: aye, fix is coming |
| 13:49.14 | aapzak | haha, its getting crowded inhere with this kubuntu rc1 release :) |
| 13:49.16 | m_tadeu | Tm_T: no bug report required? |
| 13:49.25 | Tm_T | m_tadeu: nope, well known |
| 13:49.34 | m_tadeu | Tm_T: oki |
| 13:49.37 | Jucato | yeah I will most probably have to reroute traffic towards Tm_T and/or #kubuntu :) |
| 13:50.08 | Tm_T | Jucato: ? |
| 13:50.26 | aapzak | ehhhh, Jucato , my problems are dgone |
| 13:50.32 | Tm_T | Jucato: are we having that much questions about new KDE packages? =) |
| 13:50.32 | Jucato | good |
| 13:50.48 | Jucato | Tm_T: most of the rc1 questions so far :) |
| 13:51.02 | Jucato | (but not all.. and they're very few anyway) |
| 13:51.08 | Tm_T | Jucato: tells about what distro rules in KDE world (;) |
| 13:51.18 | aapzak | maybe the dist-upgrade command said it did nothing but still fixed something |
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| 13:51.24 | Jucato | Tm_T: !(kubuntu) ; // :P |
| 13:51.34 | Jucato | hehehe j/k no distro wars in here :) |
| 13:51.45 | Tm_T | I know, kidding |
| 13:52.13 | aapzak | As a genuine OS hopper I can tell you there is no such thing as a perfect distro |
| 13:52.32 | Tm_T | aapzak: exactly |
| 13:52.55 | elbar | except the one that starts with a g ;) |
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| 13:52.57 | nhnFreespirit | cb400f: uhm... |
| 13:53.04 | nhnFreespirit | check the calendar |
| 13:53.34 | pfee | Hi, back again, so others are having kubuntu w/KDE4.2rc1 problems - any conclusions or is #kubuntu the best place to ask? |
| 13:53.45 | Tm_T | Jucato: ^ |
| 13:53.46 | nhnFreespirit | cb400f: I dont think I have any plans. and I am always up for showing off Amarok 2! :-) |
| 13:53.58 | cb400f | great! |
| 13:54.02 | pusling | nhnFreespirit: oh. we have a double date ? ;) |
| 13:54.17 | Jucato | pfee: #kubuntu would be the first place to ask |
| 13:54.20 | pfee | No icons in systray prevents use of kopete and amarok. |
| 13:54.28 | Jucato | Tm_T: ^ |
| 13:54.29 | pfee | Jucato: Ok, cheers. |
| 13:54.40 | nhnFreespirit | pusling: heh |
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| 13:55.07 | cb400f | nhnFreespirit: pusling will be presenting 4.2.. and I'll be lurking in the shadows :-) |
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| 13:55.24 | aapzak | Jucato: thanks for your time ... gtg back to work, ciao! |
| 13:56.01 | nhnFreespirit | cb400f: sweet! |
| 13:56.50 | nhnFreespirit | cb400f: I might do a dual 2.0.1.1 and "trunks greatest hits - or - whats coming up in 2.1.0" presentation |
| 13:57.15 | cb400f | sounds excellent |
| 13:57.31 | cb400f | that way we have something for casual users _and_ hardcore fanboyz :-) |
| 13:57.58 | nhnFreespirit | exactly |
| 14:00.35 | nhnFreespirit | cb400f: anyway, I have added it to my calendar |
| 14:00.48 | nhnFreespirit | Dont think I need to do much preperation for that one... :-P |
| 14:01.20 | cb400f | pusling: nhnFreespirit: I'll consider that an agreement then.. guess we'll start off arund seven o'clock.. will announce it in the coming days |
| 14:01.22 | cb400f | hehe |
| 14:02.06 | nhnFreespirit | sounds good! |
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| 14:03.52 | Jucato | (and if you're not yet done, I strongly suggest #kde-chat) |
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| 14:04.52 | Vipera | thiago: what kind of development process to you use in qt?(scrum etc) |
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| 14:12.26 | tetraedr | hi |
| 14:13.15 | tetraedr | are there any apps for KDE that would hang in tray and scan wi-fi for available nets? |
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| 14:20.40 | mooperd1 | I cant get k3b to work |
| 14:20.48 | mooperd1 | I cant get it to rip cd's :( |
| 14:20.58 | annma | rip? |
| 14:21.08 | tetraedr | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=some_file ibs=100K ? |
| 14:21.17 | Jucato | that's not ripping |
| 14:21.27 | annma | should k3b rip CDs? |
| 14:21.34 | Jucato | tetraedr: for your question, there's knetworkmanager and kwlan (I think) |
| 14:21.43 | Jucato | annma: audio cd's, yes afaik |
| 14:22.06 | tetraedr | Jucato, thanks, didn't know about kwlan |
| 14:22.06 | mooperd1 | Yes, there is an option, it is not working with lame |
| 14:22.08 | annma | provided one has the right codecs |
| 14:22.19 | Jucato | yep. LAME for MP3's |
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| 14:22.58 | Jucato | not sure about video cd's though |
| 14:23.20 | Jucato | tetraedr: there's another one, kwifi something.. forgot the name. most of these sit in the system tray |
| 14:23.32 | mooperd1 | Command failed: lame -h --tt ......... |
| 14:23.51 | annma | so it's not k3b, it's lame |
| 14:23.52 | tetraedr | Jucato, thats good, this is exactly what I want to get |
| 14:24.15 | Jucato | mooperd1: if you're ripping an audio cd to mp3's, you need to have lame installed |
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| 14:30.59 | Takahani | KRF: when i run a ccmake, i get this : http://pastebin.com/m10b81ad4 |
| 14:31.18 | Takahani | oups |
| 14:33.25 | Half-Left | Takahani: Remove the mysql so files in /usr/lib |
| 14:34.08 | Takahani | Half-Left: all of them ? |
| 14:34.23 | Takahani | Half-Left: will make a mv |
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| 14:34.49 | Half-Left | The ones that are in /usr/lib/mysql are the proper ones, remove them them /usr/lib |
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| 14:35.37 | Half-Left | in* |
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| 14:36.15 | Half-Left | Takahani: So in other words the ones you see in /usr/lib/mysql remove the matching ones in /usr/lib |
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| 14:37.16 | Takahani | Half-Left: Thks |
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| 14:37.56 | Half-Left | run ldconfig as well |
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| 14:44.01 | woxp | Does anybody here grok dual monitors in KDE? |
| 14:44.33 | Tm_T | grok? |
| 14:44.39 | woxp | understand |
| 14:44.52 | woxp | :-) |
| 14:45.48 | pinotree | just ask your question |
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| 14:46.21 | woxp | pinotree: how do I do it? |
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| 14:47.54 | cb400f | woxp: depends what kind of setup you're looking for |
| 14:48.07 | cb400f | "dual monitors" covers a lot of ground |
| 14:48.12 | woxp | I want to have my desktop span two monitors |
| 14:48.25 | woxp | they are permanently attached do my desktop computer |
| 14:48.30 | woxp | they are two identical displays |
| 14:48.39 | cb400f | ok, what gfxcard? |
| 14:48.57 | woxp | some radeon card |
| 14:49.03 | cb400f | .. but generally you would configure xorg to xinerama and kde will hopefully just do what you want it to do |
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| 14:49.06 | woxp | is there a way to get the exact model? |
| 14:49.30 | cb400f | depends on distro and stuff.. the driver used is equally important |
| 14:49.49 | woxp | under xfce, I would just use xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of DVI-1 |
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| 14:50.19 | cb400f | that gives you two separate desktops don't it? |
| 14:50.19 | woxp | if I do that under KDE, I can move windows to the other display, but there is no desktop on the display and I cannot maximize windows |
| 14:50.39 | LeeJunFan | anyone know if kde4 is going to get video preview/thumnails anytime? I've looked through planned features for all upcoming versions and don't see it anywhere. |
| 14:50.40 | woxp | cb400f: no, clone-of gives me two desktops |
| 14:50.43 | cb400f | which kde version are you using btw.. that's pretty important too :-) |
| 14:51.22 | jazka | LeeJunFan: there's an app for it @ kde-apps.org |
| 14:51.23 | woxp | i used 4.1.4 a moment ago, and 4.1.96 (4.2 RC1) just now |
| 14:51.32 | woxp | same on both |
| 14:51.36 | LeeJunFan | jazka: thanks. |
| 14:51.45 | jazka | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MPlayerThumbs?content=41180 |
| 14:52.31 | cb400f | woxp: I think plasma and kwin are much happier if you use xinerama .. (which means dual monitors acting as one big desktop) |
| 14:52.55 | woxp | ok, where do i RTFM on kde and xinerama? |
| 14:53.04 | jazka | it has thumbnails only tho |
| 14:53.21 | cb400f | it's xorg+gfx driver stuff.. not kde related per se |
| 14:53.34 | LeeJunFan | jazka: sweet, I see it's in the ubuntu repos :) Thanks. |
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| 14:56.09 | woxp | cb400f: my arch linux tells me xinerama is deprecated, and replaced my randr |
| 14:56.38 | woxp | that it was basically a hack, and will probably cause X to segfault, and that the developer has no intention of fixing it |
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| 14:57.51 | Zarin | Xinerama is implemented as XRandR in later versions of X. The term "Xinerama" is now used to refer to "static XRandR" instead. |
| 14:58.13 | Zarin | You can still set it up using the old syntax, which is what I do on Arch |
| 14:59.23 | Zarin | I have no idea how to use the XRandR syntax. There doesn't seem to be any documentation on it... |
| 14:59.39 | Zarin | Just a whole pile of "use this command to do this" |
| 14:59.50 | Zarin | That's not documentation, that's a tutorial and tells me nothing ;_; |
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| 15:01.00 | woxp | Zarin: do you have a howto or other documentation to show me? |
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| 15:02.15 | Zarin | woxp, I dunno. What are you trying to do? I only read the last line of the logs :) |
| 15:02.22 | Zarin | Here's my xorg.conf though: http://pastebin.com/m34a035da |
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| 15:02.39 | Zarin | TwinView is default |
| 15:03.04 | Zarin | You use ATI? |
| 15:03.09 | Zarin | Dunno how to set that up |
| 15:03.18 | Zarin | They call it "Big desktop" or something stupid like that |
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| 15:04.41 | woxp | Zarin: I have two identical monitors on my desktop system. I want my desktop to span the two |
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| 15:11.46 | mrbig4545 | in kde 4.2 rc, why cant i spilt the view in dolphin more than once? and why cant i do it horizontally? |
| 15:12.06 | mrbig4545 | is it something that will be added in the future? or am i the only person who loves to split the view? |
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| 15:12.42 | cb400f | mrbig4545: use konq then |
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| 15:12.56 | cb400f | dolphin can't save the profiles either |
| 15:12.58 | mrbig4545 | cb400f: yeah, but i like dolphin, it looks cool! |
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| 15:13.36 | cb400f | .. it would suck spending a lot of time on multiple splits anyway.. and then not being able to save them :-) |
| 15:13.58 | Jucato | mrbig4545: no. Dolphin isn't intended to have more than one split. |
| 15:14.07 | mrbig4545 | well i never! lol |
| 15:14.13 | mrbig4545 | oh well, ill use konq then |
| 15:14.32 | mrbig4545 | ty, but got to go, work to do! |
| 15:14.33 | mrbig4545 | cheers |
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| 15:18.35 | etnoy | I'm having problems geotagging photos under digikam |
| 15:18.49 | etnoy | seems like the map never loads, when I try to edit the coordinates I just get a grey box |
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| 15:19.14 | etnoy | I believe the problem is related to me running digikam under plain ubuntu (gnome) and that I might be missing some package(s) |
| 15:19.31 | etnoy | anybody have an idea? |
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| 15:24.39 | Moult | any ideas how to speed up scrolling in konqueror? |
| 15:24.58 | Iced^Flame | hi al |
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| 15:25.06 | Iced^Flame | could some one help me pls |
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| 15:29.52 | m_tadeu | isn't it possible to place plasmoids where ever we want within the panels? |
| 15:30.06 | Moult | m_tadeu: if you mean reorder them, yes |
| 15:30.26 | Moult | m_tadeu: unlock widgets, click the plasma-icon on the right side, then drag the widgets where you want them to be |
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| 15:30.54 | luke-jr | so I just upgraded 4.1->4.2 |
| 15:30.57 | m_tadeu | Moult: not that...I mean placing them in a certain position |
| 15:31.02 | luke-jr | can I restart KDE w/o restarting X? |
| 15:31.15 | Moult | luke-jr: perhaps if you use kdm |
| 15:31.30 | Jucato | luke-jr: just logout and log back in |
| 15:31.30 | Moult | m_tadeu: i think there is a spacer plasmoid that allows you to do this |
| 15:31.31 | luke-jr | Moult: I do, though tbh I expect otherwise |
| 15:31.33 | luke-jr | :/ |
| 15:31.41 | luke-jr | Jucato: that will kill Konversation |
| 15:31.46 | Moult | luke-jr: what Jucato says. |
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| 15:31.55 | Jucato | luke-jr: that's "restarting KDE" |
| 15:32.02 | luke-jr | it's restarting X |
| 15:32.07 | Jucato | unless you meant restarting plasma only |
| 15:32.08 | Moult | hahahahahaha |
| 15:32.11 | Jucato | no not really. |
| 15:32.17 | Jucato | kdm is still running, and so is X |
| 15:32.20 | luke-jr | I mean restarting any KDE components while leaving non-KDE stuff alone |
| 15:33.03 | luke-jr | but I guess kdm is a problem either way |
| 15:33.08 | Jucato | you can restart individual apps, and even plasma, but that's it |
| 15:33.13 | luke-jr | any idea how to save my session? :/ |
| 15:33.52 | Moult | luke-jr: perhaps you can ctrl-alt-f2, sign in there, start up startx -- :1, then ctrl-alt-f8, start up konversation, then close your ctrl-alt-f7 x session |
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| 15:34.46 | Moult | so in essense, you are doing a parallel changover |
| 15:34.48 | luke-jr | Moult: that's still a restart of Konv ;) |
| 15:35.01 | Moult | luke-jr: no, you run konv twice, so you keep both, you close the old one when you want |
| 15:35.01 | luke-jr | wonders when/if Qt will support moving apps from one X server to another |
| 15:36.06 | Jucato | use an irc bouncer/proxy and connect konvi to that. so that even if the GUI goes down, the irc is still connected in the background |
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| 15:36.24 | luke-jr | it's not that important ;p |
| 15:37.09 | Moult | any ideas how i can make konqueror's scrolling faster? |
| 15:37.26 | Jucato | not that important yet you're pulling your hair out aboutit? :) |
| 15:37.38 | Jucato | my spacebar is getting weaker... |
| 15:38.58 | m_tadeu | whats missing when I get this error from cmake? http://rafb.net/p/fEdFm010.html |
| 15:39.01 | Moult | Jucato: if you are wondering how to replace your keyboard whilst keeping the old one, don't ask. |
| 15:39.28 | Jucato | Moult: more like wondering how to replace my spacebar thumb whilst keeping my hand intact |
| 15:39.37 | Moult | :P |
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| 16:01.48 | Takahani | Half-Left: hmm still got this after removed libmysqlclient.so and make clean, and cmake and make |
| 16:01.59 | Takahani | Half-Left: http://pastebin.com/m6cccd540 |
| 16:02.52 | Half-Left | Did you remove CMakeCache? |
| 16:02.57 | Takahani | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.01 | Takahani | rm -Rf . |
| 16:03.06 | Takahani | rm -Rf * |
| 16:03.08 | Takahani | :) |
| 16:03.31 | Takahani | :( |
| 16:03.47 | Half-Left | You sure ALL the .so files to do with mysql are removed? |
| 16:03.56 | Half-Left | from /usr/lib |
| 16:04.14 | Takahani | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.19 | Takahani | answer is mysql/ |
| 16:04.27 | Takahani | only |
| 16:05.12 | Takahani | but the libmysqld.a comes from the package amarok-mysql-data from kubuntu repos |
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| 16:06.16 | Half-Left | hmm |
| 16:07.02 | Takahani | Half-Left: i must have scred something during the upgrade from last night (kde4.2 RC) because it used to work before |
| 16:07.31 | Half-Left | I had the same issue |
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| 16:08.00 | Takahani | Half-Left: kubuntu also ? |
| 16:08.03 | Half-Left | I just removed all the mysql files from /usr/lib and left them in /usr/lib/mysql |
| 16:08.12 | Half-Left | No, Archlinux |
| 16:08.13 | Takahani | :/ |
| 16:08.15 | Takahani | okay |
| 16:08.35 | Takahani | will ask on #amarok again |
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| 16:16.38 | m_tadeu | I think it would make sence to have Identities( as we use in kopete or kmail ) global to kde |
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| 16:18.03 | clou | i have one question about kde 4.3! |
| 16:18.18 | clou | when in the summer will it be released? |
| 16:18.24 | clou | after or before june? |
| 16:18.53 | Takahani | Half-Left: It's working now, I had to add pthread as a linking target manually in a Cmakelist.txt |
| 16:18.55 | pinotree | after |
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| 16:19.15 | Half-Left | Takahani: ok, cool |
| 16:19.19 | Takahani | Half-Left: Someone on the amarok channel find it |
| 16:19.28 | Takahani | Half-Left: Thks |
| 16:19.33 | Half-Left | np |
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| 16:24.35 | Tatsh_ | what's the command on KDE 3 to get the "Configure Desktop" window open? |
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| 16:29.07 | rdieter | Tatsh_: of of the items in there is doable, for example: kcmshell background |
| 16:29.27 | Tatsh_ | i'm looking to get the screen settings (resolution) one via kcmshell |
| 16:29.39 | Tatsh_ | the Display settings |
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| 16:29.54 | Tatsh_ | found it: kcmshell display |
| 16:29.58 | rdieter | yep :) |
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| 16:30.25 | luke-jr | so⦠|
| 16:30.28 | luke-jr | any idea how to save my session? :/ |
| 16:30.59 | Jucato | depends on what you mean by that |
| 16:31.06 | Tatsh_ | kde saves on exit |
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| 16:31.11 | Tatsh_ | by default |
| 16:31.15 | Tatsh_ | everything almost |
| 16:31.24 | Jucato | gnome and kde's concept of "session" doesn't include keeping irc connections alive |
| 16:31.29 | luke-jr | Tatsh_: I configured it to save on demand |
| 16:31.32 | luke-jr | Jucato: i know |
| 16:31.41 | luke-jr | I mean Konq + Konsole |
| 16:31.47 | Tatsh_ | Jucato nor keeping terminals at the same directory |
| 16:31.48 | luke-jr | and Kate |
| 16:31.57 | luke-jr | Tatsh_: uh, KDE 3 kept terms at the same dir IIRC |
| 16:32.09 | Jucato | Tatsh_: Konsole 4 doesn't have session saving in 4.1 yet |
| 16:32.09 | Tatsh_ | not aterm |
| 16:32.15 | Jucato | (4.2 I think it's there) |
| 16:32.21 | Jucato | depends on the app |
| 16:32.23 | luke-jr | Jucato: wtf, seriously? â¹ |
| 16:32.34 | luke-jr | not even tabs and tab names? |
| 16:32.38 | Jucato | aterm is not a kde app so it may or may not save sessions |
| 16:32.45 | Jucato | (not familiar with it anyway) |
| 16:33.35 | Tatsh_ | aterm overall, the best term emulator; i like xterm but not enough features there |
| 16:33.43 | Tatsh_ | konsole is way too slow |
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| 16:35.55 | Tatsh_ | sweet; set ctrl+shift+f12 to run kcmshell display |
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| 16:39.04 | luke-jr | even dbus saveCurrentSession is fail |
| 16:39.05 | luke-jr | -.- |
| 16:39.09 | luke-jr | oh well, let's hope logout can do it |
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| 16:52.25 | FoxM | Hi there.... I heard compiz has a plugin to take a series of screenshots and put the resulting files on the desktop. Is there any way to do the same thing with KDE (without compiz) via knapshot or any other program? |
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| 16:59.19 | luke-jr | meh, how do I report bugs in 4.2 RC1? :/ |
| 16:59.43 | ChemBro | bugs.kde.org |
| 16:59.54 | luke-jr | ChemBro: its' not an option for version |
| 16:59.55 | luke-jr | â¹ |
| 17:00.18 | ChemBro | write down the version, there's a field for app-version |
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| 17:21.27 | hallowname | The OpenBrain artificial intelligence plasmoid hits 100 downloads :D |
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| 17:44.39 | Salze_ | I have two users on my computer. On can search using krunner with "gg:something", the other cannot. Webshortcuts are enabled for both and work in konqueror. How can I further debug this problem? |
| 17:44.53 | Salze_ | s/On/One |
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| 17:49.42 | SSJ_GZ | hunts for a Qt'er to hug |
| 17:49.49 | SSJ_GZ | hugs thiago_home |
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| 17:57.54 | aseigo | Salze_: make sure that the krunner webshortcuts plugin is enabled in the krunner config (click on the configuration "wrench" icon in the krunner dialog) |
| 17:58.12 | Ace2016_- | Is it possible to remove the window border on maximised apps |
| 17:58.13 | Ace2016_- | ? |
| 17:58.15 | aseigo | Salze_: and also make sure that the webshortcuts runner is installed in the first place (if it doesn't show up in the plugins list, it isnt') |
| 17:58.23 | aseigo | Ace2016_-: including the title bar? |
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| 17:58.33 | aseigo | Ace2016_-: or just the edges except the titlebar |
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| 17:59.19 | Ace2016_- | no window decoration, no titlebar, no sides, just the application |
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| 17:59.48 | Ace2016_- | aseigo: the same as if you remove the border with alt+f3 |
| 18:00.26 | Ace2016_- | is it hard to get used to white text on a black background? |
| 18:00.50 | Ace2016_- | wait nvm, i use konsole all the time, lol |
| 18:00.58 | Ace2016_- | but the other colours might be an issue |
| 18:00.58 | aseigo | Ace2016_-: afaik that's only supported either by the context menu or making the window full screen, but no general setting for that afaik |
| 18:01.59 | vital | hm... my cachew has disapeared, I cant right click on the desktop, how do I get my cachew back? :) |
| 18:02.12 | SSJ_GZ | hugs aseigo, too |
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| 18:02.38 | vital | 4.2beta2 btw |
| 18:02.59 | aseigo | vital: using folderview as the Activity type? |
| 18:03.00 | Salze_ | aseigo: It is enabled - thus I think it is installed, too. And since it works for another user on this computer/installation, I think it must be installed anyways. |
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| 18:03.14 | vital | aseigo, no |
| 18:03.46 | Ace2016_- | aseigo: well i don't think kde4's window rules can handle what i want to do but compiz just might, so i'll try that |
| 18:03.49 | aseigo | Salze_: that would be a correct diagnoses... odd... if gg: works in konq, it should work in krunner.. you could try starting krunner from a konsole and see what output if any you get whne you type gg:foo |
| 18:04.10 | aseigo | vital: odd; what distro? |
| 18:04.32 | vital | aseigo, opensuse, just installed 11.1 and updated to kde4.2beta2 and it disapeared.. |
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| 18:04.58 | aseigo | hm.. oddness. and you said you can't right click either? can you still see your wallpaper and desktop widgets? |
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| 18:05.19 | vital | wallpaper yes, but no widgets and no right click menu |
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| 18:06.36 | vital | odd thing, I added a widget (analog clock) now, and when I hover on it I dont get the plasma handle.. and I dont have widgets locked |
| 18:07.14 | Ace2016_- | just wondering, but is making a kde4 window decoration theme as easy as making a plasma theme? |
| 18:07.26 | Ace2016_- | with svg files |
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| 18:08.18 | Salze_ | aseigo: When I start krunner from the konsole the krunner opens, but also in the konsole it immediately returns to the konsole. |
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| 18:13.28 | cz8s | Hi, I can't compile kdebase (branch 4.2) for days no. Always same error message: |
| 18:13.33 | cz8s | /home/chris/code/kdesvn/kdebase/workspace/libs/plasmaclock/calendar.cpp:44:26: error: Plasma/SpinBox: No such file or directory |
| 18:13.52 | cz8s | any ideas what could be wrong/missing ? |
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| 18:14.20 | pinotree | you are compiling trunk |
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| 18:15.15 | cz8s | calendar.cpp line 44 says: #include <Plasma/SpinBox> |
| 18:15.29 | mni | hi all |
| 18:15.29 | pinotree | ... that was added in trunk only |
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| 18:15.48 | pinotree | what does `svn info | grep URL` say? |
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| 18:16.37 | mni | i can't rebot my system and am using kde as my desktop enviroment |
| 18:16.42 | pinotree | cz8s: âââ |
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| 18:16.47 | cz8s | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.2/kdebase |
| 18:17.03 | marco__ | i am using kde 4.2 rc , is the analog clock broken? |
| 18:17.19 | marco__ | it always show me midnight |
| 18:17.32 | cz8s | pinotree: would deleting the source and checking out again hel ? |
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| 18:17.44 | Half-Left | marco__: Works fine here |
| 18:17.55 | marco__ | i am using opensuse package.. |
| 18:18.32 | pinotree | cz8s: go to the directory of the file, and execute the svn info command again |
| 18:18.53 | pinotree | cz8s: line 44 in that file in the 4.2 branch is... empty |
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| 18:19.44 | cz8s | pinotree: you are right. kdebase ist branch 4.2 but that subdir is trunk. |
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| 18:20.19 | DaSkreech | In KDE3 I can change the Desktop to display any Directory? |
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| 18:20.40 | pinotree | yes |
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| 18:20.47 | luke-jr | thinks he's reported 20 bugs so far today. |
| 18:21.01 | DaSkreech | pinotree: Which file do I look at? |
| 18:21.13 | pinotree | don't you have kcontrol? |
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| 18:21.48 | DaSkreech | I don't |
| 18:21.52 | DaSkreech | I'm on KDE4 |
| 18:22.04 | luke-jr | â¦â¦â¦â¦. |
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| 18:22.12 | pinotree | then i don't understand why do you need it... |
| 18:22.13 | DaSkreech | someone has strange files on the Desktop and wants to know if they screwed up KDE somehow |
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| 18:22.29 | pinotree | strange files like... etc usr lib? |
| 18:22.38 | DaSkreech | Like stuff that looks like ~ |
| 18:22.43 | DaSkreech | instead of ~/Desktop |
| 18:22.48 | pinotree | kubuntu? |
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| 18:23.16 | DaSkreech | Si |
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| 18:23.29 | pinotree | then ask in #kubuntu, as they patched that |
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| 18:23.46 | DaSkreech | Ah ok |
| 18:24.27 | pinotree | luke-jr: looking for dupes is difficult? :) |
| 18:25.15 | rdieter | (#kde-devel was mum, maybe someone here might know).... I've an existing wallpaper theme whose images are symlinks (to outside of the wallpaper folder), it worked on kde-4.1, but doesn't with kde-4.2-rc1, is that a kde bug or simply not kosher (anymore)? |
| 18:25.46 | rdieter | guesses the latter |
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| 18:28.30 | hanzzz | [kde 4.1.3 under openSUSE 11.1] When I try to download new wallpapers via the rightklick-menu-on-desktop function the following dialogbox tries to connect to kde-look.org, this works fine with a normal internet connection. but when you must use a proxy (like in my company), the dialogbox does not respect any proxy settings! is that a bug?? firefox works fine. |
| 18:30.02 | dealer | kde 4.2 will have integration from kontact to calendar w |
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| 18:33.14 | gnac_ | I'm using kde 3.5.10. Is there a way to "mount" smb filesystems as a user without having to edit fstab, which typically involves putting a username and password into fstab in plain text? |
| 18:34.58 | pinotree | gnac_: in konqueror, open remote:/ and select "add a new network folder" |
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| 18:39.07 | gnac_ | pinotree: under server, do I just put the server name, or the full path, eg smb:/server/path |
| 18:39.20 | pinotree | just the host name |
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| 18:44.26 | sveinhal | Running on KDE4.2RC1 on Arch Linux, I've got two identical Dell monitors attached to my video card. How can I extend the desktop across both screens? |
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| 18:44.52 | gnac_ | It seems that just opens up the path via the smb:// protocol. Some apps don't like accessing files over that (i.e. aren't good at opening and saving). I was hoping for a way to psuedo mount them to trick apps into thinking they were local files. |
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| 18:46.46 | Brack10 | Hi there |
| 18:46.56 | Brack10 | is it possible to download the latest oxygen icon package on Windows? |
| 18:48.17 | pinotree | Brack10: #kde-windows |
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| 18:49.06 | Brack10 | thanks |
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| 18:49.22 | shadowhywind | hay all can one use kdm3 themes in kdm4? |
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| 18:49.42 | pinotree | nope |
| 18:50.05 | shadowhywind | dang thats what i thought, any good spots for kdm4 themes kde-look only has 3 |
| 18:50.18 | pinotree | gdm themes should work, afair |
| 18:51.13 | shadowhywind | ok thanks |
| 18:52.04 | luke-jr | pinotree: yes |
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| 18:55.14 | DaSkreech | gnac_: smbmount ? |
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| 18:55.36 | shadowhywind | pinotree: any info on making themes? |
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| 18:59.22 | OsamaK | Hello, Who is a 'Docugoddess'? |
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| 18:59.53 | gnac_ | DaSkreech: that seems to need sudo or root status. |
| 19:00.12 | OsamaK | I'm translating Kopete, so I need to know who is "'Kopete *Docugoddess*, Bug and Patch Testing" |
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| 19:00.42 | pinotree | docugoodness = "documentation goodness", most probably |
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| 19:01.07 | pinotree | (most probably something to mean "lots of nice improvements to the documentation") |
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| 19:06.14 | sveinhal | Running on KDE4.2RC1 on Arch Linux, I've got two identical Dell monitors attached to my video card. How can I extend the desktop across both screens? |
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| 19:07.49 | FoxM | Hi there.... I heard compiz has a plugin to take a series of screenshots and put the resulting files on the desktop. Is there any way to do the same thing with KDE (without compiz) via knapshot or any other program? |
| 19:07.54 | cz8s | sveinhal: use xrandr on the console |
| 19:08.30 | sveinhal | cz8s: yes, I've tried "xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of DVI-1" and it sort of works, but KDE doesn't seem to care |
| 19:08.49 | sveinhal | cz8s: the desktop isn't drawn on both screens, the second one is just blank |
| 19:09.11 | sveinhal | cz8s: I can move windows over, but if i maximize them they get moved back to the primary screen |
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| 19:09.46 | cz8s | sveinhal: that is a kde/kephal bug I think. It should have been solved today |
| 19:09.56 | sveinhal | today?! |
| 19:09.59 | sveinhal | that's recent |
| 19:10.11 | sveinhal | so I have to wait, or build from sources is that it? |
| 19:10.51 | cz8s | sveinhal: think so, yes. I have the same problem and just building kdebase now. Hoping it works then. I can tell you later |
| 19:11.03 | sveinhal | cz8s: also, what is kephal? |
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| 19:11.48 | cz8s | sveinhal: It is library whichs manges multiple monitors/desktops. because there are more ways than just xrandr |
| 19:12.32 | sveinhal | cz8s: I'm guessing that the maximize behaviour is a kwin issue, and that the desktop thing is plasma workspace issue. is it sufficient to just build these two and their dependencies? |
| 19:13.16 | sveinhal | cz8s: is kephal some sort of kde library wrapper around the RandR extensions in xorg? |
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| 19:14.27 | sveinhal | if these other kde components use kephal for their "knowldge" of my monitor setup, is it sufficient to rebuild just kephal and its dependencies? |
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| 19:15.57 | cz8s | sveinhal: I think, kwin needs to be compiled also |
| 19:16.46 | cz8s | sveinhal: Its commit 910288 which changes libs/kephal and kwin |
| 19:16.55 | sveinhal | cz8s: thanks for your time and help! |
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| 19:17.25 | hallowname | anyone here wanna test an artificially intelligent plasmoid? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/OpenBrain?content=95913 please! i need feedback... |
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| 19:18.19 | hallowname | btw u need to be on kde trunk to compile that... |
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| 19:21.06 | turuburu | hi guys |
| 19:21.14 | turuburu | any partitioning tool to support ext4? |
| 19:21.36 | sveinhal | cz8s: can I download the sources (910288 or later) and just rebuild kwin and kephal and overwrite the 4.2RC1 parts with the new builds? |
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| 19:22.00 | sveinhal | cz8s: will it break something? |
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| 19:22.18 | cz8s | sveinhal: I really don't know, sorry |
| 19:22.33 | sveinhal | cz8s: ok, no problem :-) |
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| 19:22.59 | hallowname | turuburu: the new ubiquity can partition ext4... but i dunno about anything else... |
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| 19:25.19 | cz8s | sveinhal: maybe you could just compile and install kdebase. Or download the sources from you packages and patch them with that commit. |
| 19:26.21 | turuburu | hallowname:thanks for info i ll check |
| 19:27.42 | turuburu | this is a cd installer. i need something to run at already installed linux |
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| 19:32.02 | hallowname | turuburu: ubiquity can partition already installed linux' ... just dont install ubuntu... |
| 19:32.29 | turuburu | hallowname: is it like live cd? |
| 19:33.04 | hallowname | turuburu: the jaunty preview livecd has it on it... |
| 19:33.27 | turuburu | hallowname: it can convert already existing partition? |
| 19:33.35 | hallowname | turuburu: go to 'Install' on the jaunty livecd, and finished your partitioning, just dont install ubuntu all the way... |
| 19:33.50 | hallowname | turuburu: oh, i dont know about conversion, google 'ext3 to ext4' for that... |
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| 19:34.00 | turuburu | ah |
| 19:34.01 | turuburu | ok |
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| 19:34.21 | turuburu | other issues: |
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| 19:34.36 | turuburu | i installed kde 4.2 rc1 at intrepid kubuntu. i upgraded from 4.1.4. |
| 19:34.40 | turuburu | i have intel graphic card |
| 19:35.07 | turuburu | i have a laptop with external monitor. when i disable laptop display to keep only external monitor on, then kwin crashes |
| 19:35.17 | turuburu | this behavior happens both at settings, both with krandrtray |
| 19:35.19 | turuburu | any idea? |
| 19:35.47 | luke-jr | guess 4.2 will need a RC2 :/ |
| 19:36.05 | Dumble | or a RC1,5 |
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| 19:37.41 | DaSkreech | OR just a fix |
| 19:37.45 | hallowname | turuburu: buggy kwin? you are using very volatile software after all... |
| 19:38.22 | turuburu | with nvidia , no problem |
| 19:39.27 | turuburu | dolphins started crashing with unmounts |
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| 19:40.38 | FoxM | Hi there.... I heard compiz has a plugin to take a series of screenshots and put the resulting files on the desktop. Is there any way to do the same thing with KDE (without compiz) via knapshot or any other program? |
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| 19:41.55 | Half-Left | FoxM: What exactly does that achieve, some slideshow effect? |
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| 19:45.24 | FoxM | Half-Left: mmmm not really... the idea is that I can generate a series of contiguous screenshots while the program is active |
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| 19:47.32 | FoxM | Half-Left: i.e. I press, for example, Ctrl+Shift+PrntScr and the program generates files /home/user/Desktop/screenshot001.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg and so on, until I press again Ctrl+Shift+PrntScr and the program stops |
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| 19:50.01 | Half-Left | FoxM: Dont think so as far as I can see |
| 19:51.03 | FoxM | :) |
| 19:51.09 | FoxM | Half-Left: :) |
| 19:51.37 | FoxM | Half-Left: That's what I thought... I couldn't find anything either... but thanks |
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| 20:00.26 | hallowname | how does one use the .cps? file that kwin dumps for video recording? how can i play it? or convert it to ogv or ogm? |
| 20:01.49 | turuburu | grub editor of kde does not work with grub2? |
| 20:02.35 | DaSkreech | hallowname: vlc? |
| 20:02.42 | DaSkreech | It should turuburu |
| 20:02.56 | turuburu | it does not find menu.lst |
| 20:03.02 | turuburu | and now i search what is the config file |
| 20:03.50 | hallowname | DaSkreech: my vlc wouldnt do it, i was curious if it was kwin's fault... but video size seemed appropriate... |
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| 20:04.09 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.13 | DaSkreech | hallowname: #kwin |
| 20:04.20 | DaSkreech | I'd like to know the answer as well |
| 20:04.25 | turuburu | ok |
| 20:04.38 | turuburu | blb |
| 20:04.41 | turuburu | i ll reboot guys |
| 20:04.44 | turuburu | today it was big day |
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| 20:10.18 | hallowname | DaSkreech: i dont think #kwin wants me to know... :) |
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| 20:16.36 | DaSkreech | hallowname: no one answered ? |
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| 20:37.05 | miwi | moin |
| 20:37.21 | miwi | any clue here http://nopaste.unixfreunde.de/937 |
| 20:37.54 | miwi | oh it;s kde 4.1.4 |
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| 20:44.49 | [mors] | hi folksin kate Ctrl+D comments the current line |
| 20:44.57 | [mors] | how can I edit that shortcut ? |
| 20:45.28 | [mors] | can't find it neither in Shortcuts in the configure dialog nor in configure shortcuts |
| 20:45.55 | [mors] | found it |
| 20:46.12 | DaSkreech | [mors]: Settings -> configure shortcuts -> filter on comment -> change -> apply |
| 20:46.53 | [mors] | DaSkreech: yeah found it :) |
| 20:47.01 | [mors] | isn't there a duplicate line command line in notepad++ ? |
| 20:47.11 | [mors] | I'd like to assign Ctrl+D to that |
| 20:48.20 | DaSkreech | shrugs |
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| 20:54.37 | silver_hook | Hullo. I'm just wondering if in the KDE4 version of KRandR there's options for 1) 'xrandr --auto' and/or 2) turning off one of the displays (e.g. 'xrandr --off <display>)? |
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| 20:56.00 | zsz | hi, just wanted to note that 4.2 rc looks a lot better than 4.1, and the progress since 4.0.0 has been huge. So thanks to all kde guys |
| 20:56.38 | thiago_home | thanks |
| 20:56.49 | thiago_home | (on behalf of those who did most of the work) |
| 20:56.55 | DaSkreech | gets zsz a kap |
| 20:56.59 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 20:57.10 | DaSkreech | thiago_home: as if Qt doesn't do a lot of the heavy lifting |
| 20:57.26 | thiago_home | no major improvements in 4.4 since it was released |
| 20:57.31 | thiago_home | 4.1 already used 4.4 |
| 20:57.35 | [mors] | is Qt really that powerful ? |
| 20:57.42 | [mors] | yeah I know you can script it and such |
| 20:57.52 | DaSkreech | [mors]: It killed Kryptonite! |
| 20:58.08 | remur_bln | [mors]: don't mix it up with QtScript... |
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| 21:01.13 | [mors] | krunner only remembers what I type during one session |
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| 21:01.26 | [mors] | isn't there a way for it to keep that info always ? |
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| 21:03.01 | downhill_ | aseigo; Could I please /msg you a moment about your blog? I promise it won't take long, and that you probably don't want to discuss this in the channel ;) |
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| 21:12.20 | DaSkreech | [mors]: Good question |
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| 21:14.17 | aseigo | downhill_: sure thing |
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| 21:16.43 | [mors] | DaSkreech: bah... good questions never have answers :p |
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| 21:18.09 | inad923 | hello |
| 21:18.19 | downhill_ | aseigo; inc. |
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| 21:19.05 | inad923 | Could someone tell me the name of the program in kde which has the functionality of "control panel" in windows and another one with which I can set which programs to autostart on kde start? |
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| 21:20.44 | Half-Left | inad923: kde4 or kde3? |
| 21:20.49 | inad923 | kde3 |
| 21:20.54 | Half-Left | kcontrol |
| 21:21.00 | inad923 | thanks |
| 21:21.35 | DaSkreech | [mors]: #plasma would be the place for an answer |
| 21:22.01 | DaSkreech | inad923: system settings if you are using KDE 4 |
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| 21:22.50 | inad923 | I dont have the time to work around that now in debian |
| 21:23.19 | [mors] | DaSkreech: thanks |
| 21:23.45 | inad923 | okular and dolphin is pretty useful though I use them both |
| 21:23.57 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 21:23.59 | alec | Hi, does anyone know where I can download a copy of the BlueCurl wallpaper in svg format? |
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| 21:24.40 | DaSkreech | alec: I would susepct the KDE SVN |
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| 21:25.26 | pedepy | help |
| 21:25.32 | alec | DaSkreech: I tried that, but I can't seem to find it... I'm not really sure where to look |
| 21:25.39 | pedepy | kde says that my sound device isnt working .. but its working ... so its not working ... help |
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| 21:27.50 | Half-Left | alec: Ask in #oxygen |
| 21:28.25 | pedepy | so no one knows about kde ? |
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| 21:29.18 | blauzahl-laptop | pedepy: it works where? be more specific about versions and things, and then be patient. |
| 21:29.26 | pedepy | versions of what |
| 21:29.56 | alec | Half-Left: Good idea, that's what I'll try |
| 21:30.22 | DaSkreech | Whch version of KDE might be helpful |
| 21:31.36 | remur_bln | heya, is there some place to check about news for the konversation port to kde4 libs? |
| 21:32.34 | Half-Left | remur_bln: Their website? |
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| 21:34.55 | remur_bln | Half-Left: these news are pretty old, I guess it's a big team, do they have a mailing list or something? |
| 21:34.59 | remur_bln | or blog about it |
| 21:35.10 | remur_bln | if they do it's not on planetkde |
| 21:35.13 | Half-Left | No idea |
| 21:35.20 | remur_bln | atleast not for some time |
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| 21:51.08 | gl_ | hi, any expert can tell me how to make the knetworkmanager automatically? I am running suse 11.1 with the latest kde |
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| 21:51.45 | gl_ | I meant "start automatically" |
| 21:53.00 | remur_bln | gl_: add it to the autostart in 'system settings' |
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| 21:54.04 | gl_ | remur_bln: thank you I will take a look at that! |
| 21:54.56 | zsz | for some reason the code athttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/DataEngines doesn't compile (see http://dpaste.com/109154/ for full error message). What could be wrong? |
| 21:54.58 | gl_ | remur_bln: BTW, where is that? |
| 21:55.14 | remur_bln | gl_: system settings or autostart? |
| 21:55.33 | gl_ | both :-) sorry! |
| 21:56.53 | remur_bln | I don't know autostart out of my head, should be quick to find |
| 21:57.02 | gl_ | OK |
| 21:57.13 | remur_bln | systemsettings can be started by alt + f2 -> system settings |
| 21:57.25 | zsz | it looks like Plasma::DataEngine isn't found - that can't be normal |
| 21:57.30 | remur_bln | or it should be in your menu, atleast it's in the faforites for me |
| 21:57.47 | remur_bln | zsz: maybe better ask in #kde-devel? |
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| 21:58.50 | MrRat | wants a media player that embeds into dolphin as konsole does :p |
| 21:59.18 | gl_ | remur_bln: found it, In suse is Personal settings> advanced |
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| 22:00.33 | [mors] | ouch |
| 22:00.38 | [mors] | where are the kopete guys ? |
| 22:01.03 | DaSkreech | #kopete |
| 22:01.12 | DaSkreech | MrRat: Doable |
| 22:01.26 | MrRat | DaSkreech: yep, would be very nice |
| 22:02.04 | DaSkreech | MrRat: look into dragon |
| 22:02.43 | MrRat | DaSkreech: yeah i have dragonplayer |
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| 22:03.07 | DaSkreech | Yeah talk to them they would be ideal to have a media player integration to dolphin |
| 22:03.18 | MrRat | DaSkreech: description is video player for kde4, i was thinkin audio though really, havent looked at it at all |
| 22:03.34 | DaSkreech | dragon does audio as well as images |
| 22:03.39 | MrRat | cool |
| 22:03.40 | DaSkreech | open a jpg and it opens |
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| 22:03.45 | DaSkreech | png etc |
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| 22:03.52 | DaSkreech | ogg mp3 m4a |
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| 22:05.34 | downhill_ | I need KPieMaker... getting pretty hungry... |
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| 22:06.55 | DaSkreech | sorry we only ofer Kake |
| 22:07.45 | MinceR | the Kake is a KPie. |
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| 22:09.48 | DaSkreech | ln-s ? |
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| 22:17.21 | vital | in what release of kde4 should I find kdelibs5? |
| 22:17.36 | Ace2016_- | all of them? |
| 22:18.03 | Ace2016_- | vital: i don't understand the question |
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| 22:18.09 | pinotree | vital: we don't provide distro packages, so you should ask in the channel of your distro |
| 22:18.30 | remur_bln | kdelibs5? lol |
| 22:18.38 | vital | Ace2016_-, pinotree, I noticed as I pressed enter.. sorry |
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| 22:19.26 | Ace2016_- | i'm downloading the kde source packages, which one contains kcontrol? |
| 22:19.28 | xee | I'm new to compiling KDE apps, I'm wondering how to compile the panel spacer found at http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Panel+Spacer?content=89304 |
| 22:19.35 | Ace2016_- | i'm downloading kde 3.5.10 |
| 22:19.55 | Ace2016_- | xee: does it not have a README or INSTALL file? |
| 22:19.55 | xee | I already have the compiled 4.2 trunk |
| 22:20.02 | aseigo | xee: same kind of deal... |
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| 22:20.08 | xee | it doesn't include building instructions :( |
| 22:20.13 | aseigo | xee: make a build/ directory, go into that, run cmake, make, make install |
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| 22:20.52 | pascal_ | hi ^^ |
| 22:21.02 | aseigo | yo |
| 22:21.13 | xee | actually it stops with an error that "FindPlasma.cmake is deprecated. Now with KDE 4.2 Plasma is part of kdelibs and automatically found using find_package(KDE4) instead." |
| 22:23.08 | pascal_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:23.45 | remur_bln | pascal_: #opensuse-de |
| 22:23.46 | MrRat | DaSkreech: now all we need is a dragon to select under dolphin/panels, so we could choose dragonplayer too |
| 22:24.06 | pascal_ | die wissen auch nich weiter :( |
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| 22:24.27 | thiago_home | pascal_: English please |
| 22:24.39 | pascal_ | oh o.O sry :D |
| 22:24.45 | remur_bln | pascal_: it is propably a opensuse issue, due to problems with pulseaudio and phonon (and yes I do speak german, anyways english channel here...( |
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| 22:24.52 | ts1 | hi anyone having problems |
| 22:24.54 | ts1 | launching kdm |
| 22:24.58 | ts1 | in the daily version? |
| 22:25.04 | DaSkreech | MrRat: That's what I said speak to the dragon folks to suggest it :) |
| 22:25.09 | ts1 | libck-connector.so not found |
| 22:25.10 | ts1 | :( |
| 22:25.13 | ts1 | cannot launch kdm |
| 22:25.21 | pinotree | how did you install kdm? |
| 22:25.26 | ts1 | well |
| 22:25.30 | ts1 | i use kde4-daily on |
| 22:25.32 | ts1 | archlinux |
| 22:25.38 | ts1 | i never had any problems |
| 22:25.46 | remur_bln | ts1: take a deep breath and try to put it in one or two lines |
| 22:25.46 | pinotree | is that something provided by archlinux guys? |
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| 22:26.03 | ts1 | remur_bln: sorry, havent been using irc lately ;) |
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| 22:26.43 | ts1 | so, i use kde4 daily builds for archlinux, never had any problems until now, i cannot launch kdm due to the following: error while loading shared libraries: libck-connector.so.0 |
| 22:26.56 | pinotree | proken packages |
| 22:27.00 | pinotree | *broken |
| 22:27.01 | ts1 | i made a big update |
| 22:27.09 | remur_bln | kde4 daily is from the kdemod guys right? |
| 22:27.12 | pinotree | ask whoever is providing you kde4-daily (we don't) |
| 22:27.12 | johjoh | hello, i use kde3.5 and i wanted to know where the sound libs are located... any guess? |
| 22:27.14 | ts1 | i will have to wait for an update |
| 22:27.20 | ts1 | im not sure which repo is it |
| 22:27.30 | pinotree | ts1: #archlinux please |
| 22:27.36 | pinotree | johjoh: what is the real problem? |
| 22:28.12 | johjoh | pinotree: just want to use the sounds from kde on another program... for warnings and stuff like that... dunno where they are |
| 22:28.58 | remur_bln | johjoh: are you looking for libs or actual sound files? |
| 22:29.05 | pinotree | look in $(kde-config --path sound) for actual sound files |
| 22:29.58 | johjoh | remur_bln: the actual sound files |
| 22:30.16 | johjoh | pinotree: that's inside my home folder? |
| 22:30.18 | hallowname | anyone wanna test an artificial intelligence plasmoid? needs trunk... |
| 22:30.20 | remur_bln | johjoh: pinotree supplied the awnser =) |
| 22:30.25 | pinotree | there should be two paths |
| 22:31.36 | remur_bln | hallowname: what does it do, ai is kinda a killer phrase used these days to describe anything from autonomous systems to ask and get a response bot |
| 22:31.57 | johjoh | pinotree: sry... i'm lost =/ |
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| 22:32.10 | sputnick__ | hi rthere |
| 22:32.13 | sputnick__ | *there* |
| 22:32.22 | hallowname | remur_bln: yup, it interprets AIML files, just like the A.L.I.C.E. project... it's for simple desktop tasks, like 'google x' or 'run firefox'... |
| 22:32.53 | sputnick__ | what about "Checking for the qt includes : the qt headers were not found" from "./configure" in kde4 ? |
| 22:33.03 | sputnick__ | I'm on debian lenny. |
| 22:33.48 | pinotree | sputnick__: there's no ./configure in kde, so what are you trying to compile? |
| 22:33.51 | pinotree | *kde4 |
| 22:34.24 | sputnick__ | wlassistant as I said |
| 22:34.34 | sputnick__ | :) |
| 22:34.34 | hallowname | remur_bln: over 100,000 repsonses, its called OpenBrain, and it's on kde-apps if u wanna try it out |
| 22:34.40 | thiago_home | sputnick__: what's wlassistant? |
| 22:34.45 | thiago_home | how is that a #kde issue? |
| 22:34.50 | sputnick__ | a wireless GUI tool |
| 22:34.52 | Ace2016_- | hi all |
| 22:34.59 | Ace2016_- | interesting idea i've had |
| 22:35.12 | sputnick__ | works well with kde3 but need to make tricks on kde4 |
| 22:35.26 | pinotree | is it a kde application? |
| 22:35.38 | Ace2016_- | would it be possible to run kicker alongside plasma and with it only containing the system tray? |
| 22:35.50 | sputnick__ | pinotree: think so yes |
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| 22:35.53 | Ace2016_- | i want a panel that can autohide |
| 22:36.15 | pinotree | Ace2016_-: update to (or wait for) kde 4.2 (due in two weeks) |
| 22:36.24 | Ace2016_- | two whole weeks? |
| 22:36.32 | remur_bln | hallowname: sounds interesting, you guys got a page? |
| 22:36.58 | Ace2016_- | guess i can wait |
| 22:36.58 | pinotree | yes, two weeks |
| 22:37.02 | remur_bln | sounds like a krunner implementation? |
| 22:37.06 | hallowname | remur_bln: just me, just started programming it, not much feedback yet... openbrain.sf.net most info is on kde-apps tho |
| 22:37.32 | remur_bln | yes sorry didn't read the last one |
| 22:37.37 | miwi | howdy http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-errorlogs/a.6.20090114102347/kdelibs-4.1.4.log any ideas? |
| 22:37.38 | hallowname | remur_bln: nah, it can answer questions like 'how are you', 'what month is it?' etc |
| 22:37.43 | Ace2016_- | pinotree: so the 25th? |
| 22:37.48 | pinotree | 27 |
| 22:38.59 | rmh3093 | where is the option to disable the screen lock in kde? |
| 22:39.01 | Ace2016_- | ah |
| 22:39.03 | remur_bln | hallowname: argh, needs kde-devel packages =) |
| 22:39.16 | hallowname | remur_bln: needz kde trunk actually, and qt4 svn |
| 22:39.32 | remur_bln | hallowname: you thought about hosting it on opensuse buildservices or ubuntu private repo or however they call theirs =) |
| 22:39.46 | remur_bln | hallowname: yes, I am running kde trunk, well close to |
| 22:39.54 | hallowname | i dunno, i just code, im not gonna pick sides with any distro ;) |
| 22:40.15 | hallowname | plus i'll never kno if the packages work right... |
| 22:40.20 | remur_bln | hallowname: nah this is not about picking a side, opensuse-buildservice is supposed to build for other platforms as well |
| 22:40.33 | hallowname | remur_bln: ill check it out, thx for the tip |
| 22:40.40 | remur_bln | they get rebuild as soon as your requirements get rebuild, so it should be safe |
| 22:41.26 | remur_bln | argh, well opensuse buildservice just has kde4.2 packages for opensuse, but you could set it up similar for ubuntu on their ppa as well |
| 22:41.35 | remur_bln | would get you many people to test =) |
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| 22:45.52 | remur_bln | hallowname: ping private message |
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| 22:58.56 | rmh3093 | where is the option to disable the screen lock in kde? |
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| 23:21.05 | [mors] | the systray looks oddly broken (rendering) in kde 4.1.3 with nvidia proprietary drivers |
| 23:21.12 | [mors] | driver issue of fixed in kde 4.2 ? |
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| 23:31.55 | gionny | [mors]: that's an nvidia proprietary driver bug |
| 23:32.45 | sputnick__ | OMG ! filelight is now *intelligent* ! \0/ when I scan my "/" he don't look in others partitions !!! pretty good :) |
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| 23:33.35 | sputnick__ | thinks that's a kde4 new feature |
| 23:34.37 | aseigo | :) |
| 23:35.14 | aseigo | [mors]: depending on the specific type of oddly brokenness of it, it could be the driver, the system tray widget (it's improved in 4.2), Qt or Gtk+ |
| 23:35.22 | Jucato | there's a new filelight? |
| 23:35.46 | aseigo | [mors]: not a simple issue; better in 4.2 and by the time 4.3 comes out the toolkits will all have caught up as well |
| 23:35.53 | aseigo | perhaps sooner,e ven |
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| 23:37.01 | rmh3093 | where is the option to disable the screen lock in kde? i cant seem to find it in the display properties |
| 23:37.01 | rmh3093 | even though thats where i am told it is |
| 23:37.02 | rmh3093 | err |
| 23:37.02 | rmh3093 | desktop i mean |
| 23:37.07 | sputnick__ | Filelight: 1.0 Jucato |
| 23:37.27 | sputnick__ | err, that's a kde3 app oO |
| 23:37.30 | Jucato | oh that's old |
| 23:37.32 | Jucato | and kde3 |
| 23:37.39 | behavedave | I'm looking for resources on writing plasmoids in Python (examples/Tutorials/API) but having a devil of a time finding anything substantive. Could any one point me in a direction please? |
| 23:37.55 | sputnick__ | I see yes Jucato |
| 23:37.56 | Jucato | ---> #plasma |
| 23:38.15 | [mors] | aseigo: thanks |
| 23:38.23 | [mors] | yeah, I saw some thing similar with gnome |
| 23:38.24 | [mors] | more |
| 23:38.30 | behavedave | A plasma channel of course there is... |
| 23:38.40 | [mors] | when I open an app with wine, the entire dekstop, and the taskbar flicker a LOT |
| 23:38.49 | [mors] | driver issue ? |
| 23:39.06 | [mors] | something similar happened with gnome, sometimes the window decorator drew transparent window decorations |
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| 23:40.22 | behavedave | Before I leave, KDE devs - 4.2rc1 is soooo nice |
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