00:00.49 | gkiagia | Silouck: it does have such a feature |
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00:13.03 | knubbe | Silouck: there is a search box in the program |
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00:46.38 | mfilipe | what is deinterlacing method in xine backend? |
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01:12.56 | shevy | mfilipe probably needed if you have interlaced video content from some tv show or something |
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01:15.54 | mfilipe | shevy: thanks |
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01:55.01 | Jahooty | how do i move widgets around on the 'taskbar' |
01:55.01 | Jahooty | ? |
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01:55.45 | stdin | Jahooty: click on the cashew, then you can drag them about |
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01:57.28 | Jahooty | half of them won't move, it just opens them |
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02:01.54 | Jahooty | so when is kde 4.x supposed to be ready for real use? |
02:02.10 | Qrawl | did you try 4.2 |
02:02.15 | Jahooty | no |
02:02.19 | Qrawl | you should |
02:02.24 | Jahooty | when it's out of beta i will |
02:02.28 | Qrawl | ok |
02:02.34 | Qrawl | Id say 4.2 is the real use one |
02:02.37 | cb400f | Jahooty: to move widgets in panel .. unlock widgets -> click on cashew.. move the things |
02:02.44 | Jahooty | yes i know |
02:02.44 | cb400f | .. not that hard |
02:02.58 | Jahooty | it is that hard when they arent behaving like you describe |
02:03.20 | Qrawl | i switched back to KDE with 4.2 |
02:03.39 | Jahooty | some simply would not move, like the systray widget. when i try to move it, it acts as if i've clicked the program icon within it and ignores my attempt to move |
02:03.54 | Jahooty | it also exits the 'widget edit mode' or whatever it's called |
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02:04.36 | Jahooty | now i have a giant 'off' button sitting behind the cashew, hanging half off the screen |
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02:05.03 | Qrawl | upgrade to 4.2 beta |
02:05.14 | Jahooty | when it's in the repos |
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02:05.21 | Qrawl | what distro |
02:05.23 | Jahooty | suse |
02:05.27 | Jahooty | 11.1 |
02:05.50 | Qrawl | does that use RPM or Debian |
02:05.56 | Jahooty | rpm |
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02:10.49 | PhrkOnLsh | Jahooty: Use the KDE Unstable playground if you must... yast2->software repositories->add->community repositories->check the KDE4 Unstable one. |
02:10.55 | PhrkOnLsh | I don't recommend it though ;) |
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02:11.04 | PhrkOnLsh | 4.1.3 is perfectly good atm on 11.0 |
02:11.16 | Jahooty | no, no it's not |
02:11.18 | Jahooty | sorry |
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02:11.58 | PhrkOnLsh | Hm, sounds like you should be filing some bugs over at novell/opensuse, then. ;) |
02:12.09 | cb400f | no it doesn't sounds like user error |
02:12.14 | cb400f | is on openSUSE too |
02:12.20 | PhrkOnLsh | shrugs |
02:13.16 | Jahooty | user error? i restarted x server and when i logged back in almost everything in the taskbar had reversed order on it's own |
02:13.22 | Jahooty | how in hell is that my fault? |
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02:13.32 | Qrawl | its not |
02:13.38 | Qrawl | KDE still has bugs |
02:13.56 | Qrawl | but its improving fast |
02:14.03 | Qrawl | youll see when you try 4.2 |
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02:14.47 | cb400f | that's a different issue from not being able to move widgets |
02:15.06 | cb400f | to reset plasma: 'kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma &' |
02:15.50 | Jahooty | i just discovered that my touchpad wont let me drag anymore, which was probably the heart of it |
02:16.02 | PhrkOnLsh | oh magic :) |
02:16.04 | Jahooty | cb400f, ctr+shit+alt+backspace |
02:16.46 | Jahooty | and cb400f why do i have a giant power button behind the cashew half off the screen? |
02:17.03 | Qrawl | thats probably a widget |
02:17.23 | Jahooty | i'll take a screenshot |
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02:17.50 | Qrawl | KDE 4.2 has a nice widget. you just drag a picture on top of it, and it automatically posts it and gives you the url |
02:17.52 | cb400f | Jahooty: you obviously screwed up your plasma.. and you need to reset it.. and I just told you how |
02:17.59 | Jahooty | and if it is a widget, why is it there? i didn't put it there, it wasn't there fresh after install, it put itself there |
02:18.16 | Jahooty | fine, just to shut you up, i'll do it |
02:18.21 | PhrkOnLsh | Qrawl: Sounds juicy :) |
02:18.22 | cb400f | default setup has logout+lock widget in panel |
02:18.57 | Jahooty | yes, but the default setting does not have an EXTRA GIANT SIZED power button BEHIND the cashew |
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02:19.28 | Qrawl | lol |
02:19.43 | cb400f | well.. enjoy it, some people don't want help.. I'm off to bed |
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02:20.10 | Jahooty | how is 'you screwed it up, obviously' help? |
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02:29.27 | wenl | morning or evening, every one |
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02:30.27 | Jahooty | what a surprise, cb400f's commands did not help |
02:30.29 | Jahooty | just made things worse |
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02:30.51 | Lordveda | Is there a component for Kopete to use Facebook chat with it? |
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02:35.50 | Lordveda | Is it possible for korganizer to work with google calendar? |
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02:38.29 | PhrkOnLsh | Lordveda: kopete->not imo |
02:38.54 | PhrkOnLsh | pidgin plugin's source is available though ;) |
02:40.33 | freeedrich| | Lordveda: I think you can integrate google calenders |
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02:53.12 | Lordveda | uses Kde 4.1.3 and Fedora 10 |
02:53.41 | Lordveda | Can I please be told about the possibility of Korganizer to use google calendar? |
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03:54.11 | Psi-Jack | What exactly is nepomukservices, and why is it using 80+% CPU time all the time? |
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03:55.25 | randy | hey |
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04:08.42 | PhrkOnLsh | Psi-Jack: It's the semantic desktop! |
04:08.46 | PhrkOnLsh | I disabled it :P |
04:08.53 | PhrkOnLsh | Try disabling strigi search daemon |
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04:09.41 | Psi-Jack | Yeah. I just ended up disabling Nepomuk. |
04:10.43 | Psi-Jack | I /want/ a useful indexing service that works properly and only indexes what I want it to.. Doesn't seem like ven Strigi does what I want. |
04:10.43 | Psi-Jack | beagled is just.. Crap. Pure, Crap. |
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04:58.46 | clarkda | what lib requirement does the desktop backround have? |
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05:16.33 | dunas | The problem is, I need it to open the links in Firefox. |
05:16.36 | dunas | Can someone help? |
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06:11.19 | flocati | dunas: right click -> save link |
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06:22.05 | mohan_ | hi, i am using digiKam 0.10.0-beta6 for KDE 4.1.3 |
06:22.16 | mohan_ | the previous version (i think for kde 3.5) had some options to do batch processing like borders, converting images etc |
06:22.20 | mohan_ | but, with the recent version, i don't have any thing |
06:22.29 | mohan_ | any idea, what could be missing? |
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06:23.35 | Jucato | afaik, those features are provided by KIPI Plugins, not built into digikam itself. try installing kipi-plugins for KDE 4 (it's not yet complete though) |
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06:26.01 | mohan_ | Jucato: i installed kipi plugins too |
06:26.53 | Jucato | mohan_: the correct version (for kde4?). and those features might not be included yet in the current version |
06:27.08 | mohan_ | Jucato: as you said, kipi plugins for KDE 4 are not yet ready it seems! |
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07:40.19 | Guest45616 | hello all |
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08:11.13 | BOBSONATOR | hey guys, im in kde 4.2, and my desktop effects work, yet my bar isnt transparent, does anyone knw the problem? |
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08:15.38 | Third3ye | Hey everybody |
08:15.54 | Third3ye | I was wondering if anyone here, anyone, had the balls to step up and server Microsoft with a subpeana for stealing ideas? |
08:16.09 | Third3ye | :P |
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08:25.08 | shb | good da! |
08:25.10 | shb | y |
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08:25.57 | shb | anyone here know if it is possible to stack plasma panels? I want to have two pannels at the bottom, but they seem to always overlap. |
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08:28.44 | shb | anyone home? |
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08:40.28 | mohan_ | shb: i am also looking for the same feature! |
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08:45.45 | neeku | i've made a mess while installing some rpm update files. now i can't enter kde4 due to "couldn't start kdeinit4, check your installation". i tried updating and reparing the system using suse dvd but none helped. any suggestions? (suse 11.0 and kde 4.0) |
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08:48.37 | farhad | hi all |
08:48.45 | Third3ye | Hey |
08:48.56 | neeku | salam farhad! ;) |
08:50.00 | farhad | how can i uninstall akonadi ? i have compiled and installed akonadi from svn-trunk but i cant uninstall it with make uninstall |
08:50.08 | farhad | salam neeku :) |
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08:51.29 | glen | err, kmail from beta2 still has cristmas? |
08:51.40 | glen | it says for email dated 25 dec as "today" |
08:52.07 | glen | http://glen.alkohol.ee/ss/h301.png |
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09:13.41 | Evilaliv3 | hi all =) |
09:13.47 | Evilaliv3 | i've a little question |
09:13.56 | Evilaliv3 | is kdehiddenvisibility a good option for kde? |
09:14.07 | Evilaliv3 | what does it actual do? |
09:14.41 | farhad_hf | i have problems with my fonts in kde 4.2 svn trunk , i'm not sure that its a kde problem , but what can i do? see this : http://imagebin.ca/view/dtUjMf.html |
09:15.33 | thechris | Evilaliv3: IIRC it enables a specific cflag |
09:16.06 | Evilaliv3 | IIRC ? |
09:16.16 | Evilaliv3 | ok but its a good cflag? |
09:16.43 | thechris | it should be. I think the point was that not all apps compile with it, nor do all compilers support it |
09:17.40 | Evilaliv3 | mmm thanks .. |
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09:24.33 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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09:37.21 | Third3ye | Can KDE automount MTP devices, i.e the Creative Zen? |
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09:42.44 | rufsketch1 | hey all, I'm using an svn snapshot of what i'm guessing is a fairly recent build of 4.2 |
09:43.23 | rufsketch1 | I can't seem to use opengl accelerated effects |
09:43.46 | rufsketch1 | I heard that the latest version checks to see if your card/driver supports compositing |
09:43.52 | rufsketch1 | but how does it check? |
09:44.00 | rufsketch1 | and how can I override this check? |
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09:45.14 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: do you have libGL installed ? |
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09:46.07 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: I think so. |
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09:46.34 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: I wouldn't be able to do any opengl stuff without it right? |
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09:47.37 | nadim | I added a handler for a file type on my box (I think this iw what started the problem) and since I get a lot of message boxes with "could not find mime type application/octet-stream". In konqueror as soon as I move the mouse and in other applications too. Any idea? |
09:47.53 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: you need dev packages |
09:48.17 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: libgl1-mesa-dev? |
09:48.44 | farhad_hf | yes |
09:49.44 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: looks like I have them. but i'll update to most recent |
09:50.13 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: ok, I updated. now what? |
09:50.41 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: perhaps it would be wiser to check if my card/driver combo supports compositing? |
09:50.48 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: and check if you have libGL.so in /usr/lib |
09:50.56 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: ok |
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09:51.39 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: yes, it's there |
09:53.02 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: hm.. did you have errors while using cmake ? about opengl? |
09:53.21 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: I installed via debian repos |
09:53.39 | rufsketch1 | and opengl games work fine |
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09:54.27 | farhad_hf | ow , i thought that you have compiled from svn trunk :P |
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09:54.41 | farhad_hf | sorry rufsketch1 :P |
09:54.41 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: nope |
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09:57.10 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: can you still help? or does your expertise extend as far as compilation problems? |
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09:58.37 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: sorry . i dont know about kde debian packages , maybe a bug in packages or something in debian ? |
09:58.54 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: it's not a packaging issue |
09:59.03 | rufsketch1 | i'm pretty sure it's a compatibility issue |
09:59.33 | rufsketch1 | with the way kde is interacting with my drivers and the way my drivers are interacting with my hardware |
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09:59.46 | rufsketch1 | i'm using the opensource radeon driver on an x1200 |
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10:00.34 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: do you have composite enabled in xorg.conf ? |
10:01.17 | farhad_hf | :P i think you have! |
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10:04.22 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: just a sex |
10:04.23 | rufsketch1 | sec* |
10:05.30 | farhad_hf | hehe! :) |
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10:06.09 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: should I also enable the "RENDER" option? |
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10:07.22 | rufsketch1 | I'm about to try enabling it. it might glitch out completely, so hang on |
10:07.56 | rufsketch1 | nope, still decided to rever to xrender |
10:08.43 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: you have to restart kdm for changes be applied . |
10:09.15 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: ok, i'll brb |
10:09.18 | rufsketch1 | before that though |
10:09.27 | rufsketch1 | should I enable the RENDER option in my xorg.conf? |
10:09.33 | rufsketch1 | or just the compositing option? |
10:09.52 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: i have compositing , |
10:09.58 | rufsketch1 | no render? |
10:10.03 | farhad_hf | no |
10:10.07 | rufsketch1 | ok |
10:10.08 | rufsketch1 | brb |
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10:12.49 | farhad_hf | wb neeku |
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10:13.02 | neeku | thanks farhad_hf :) |
10:13.02 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: no luck |
10:13.06 | rufsketch1 | this is the error I get |
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10:13.08 | rufsketch1 | Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. |
10:13.25 | rufsketch1 | and it switches me back to xrender |
10:13.31 | neeku | how can i upgrade to kde 4.1.3 with local rpm files i've downloaded before? |
10:13.40 | rufsketch1 | and the number of effects I am limited to is ridiculous :( |
10:13.48 | farhad_hf | hmm... what did you do rufsketch1? |
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10:14.54 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: its my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f6947e18b |
10:15.57 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: ah! |
10:15.58 | rufsketch1 | hahaha |
10:16.00 | niac | hi all - I've accidentally closed the virtual desktop widget. How can I get it back? |
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10:16.03 | rufsketch1 | stupid mcedit |
10:16.21 | rufsketch1 | I enabled compositing but forgot to uncomment the line :-P |
10:16.35 | farhad_hf | :) |
10:16.48 | farhad_hf | neeku: maybe local repository can help : http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/12/11/local-yum-repository/ |
10:17.30 | rufsketch1 | gonna restart x, brb |
10:18.35 | neeku | farhad_hf: well, i've added the dir to the repo list, but when i try updating, it says 'nothing to do'!!! |
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10:19.16 | farhad_hf | neeku: did you use createrepo ? in that guide above? |
10:19.24 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: nope, still get the same error :( |
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10:19.44 | neeku | farhad_hf: i tried them all using yast, not the terminal |
10:19.46 | neeku | :-/ |
10:21.02 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: this is my xorg.conf |
10:21.04 | rufsketch1 | http://pastebin.com/d7726abd0 |
10:21.16 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: can you paste the error and xorg.conf? |
10:21.21 | farhad_hf | ops |
10:21.35 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: the error is the same as last time |
10:22.30 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: it doesn't work regardless of whether RENDER is set to 0 or 1 |
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10:22.37 | rufsketch1 | in case you were wondering |
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10:22.55 | britnety | <PROTECTED> |
10:23.18 | britnety | i suspect its a kde problem because intially the mouse moves but once kde loads it hangs |
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10:23.44 | rufsketch1 | britnety: can you see the actual desktop? |
10:24.01 | britnety | rufsketch1 yes |
10:24.10 | rufsketch1 | including your icons and such? |
10:24.15 | britnety | yes |
10:24.20 | rufsketch1 | what version of kde? |
10:24.20 | britnety | its a live cd |
10:24.24 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: sorry , i dont know whats the problem |
10:24.29 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: :( |
10:24.38 | rufsketch1 | britnety: kde 4? |
10:24.44 | britnety | kubuntu 8.10 so i.e. kde 4 |
10:24.57 | rufsketch1 | 4.1? or 4.2 beta? |
10:25.05 | rufsketch1 | i don't use ubuntu |
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10:26.04 | britnety | 4.12 |
10:27.03 | farhad_hf | rufsketch1: i dont have radeon card , and dont know about its driver, but maybe your problem is from the driver, |
10:27.51 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: that's what I'm suspecting. and was hoping to get cleared up |
10:28.03 | rufsketch1 | britnety: try a newer version |
10:28.19 | britnety | i downloaded it last night |
10:28.52 | rufsketch1 | I meant a newer version of kde |
10:29.00 | rufsketch1 | such as the 4.2 beta |
10:29.08 | rufsketch1 | when it hangs, can you still move the mouse around? |
10:29.27 | britnety | very very slowly |
10:29.33 | rufsketch1 | hmm |
10:29.35 | rufsketch1 | ok |
10:29.45 | rufsketch1 | it seems like a probelm with kwinrc |
10:29.46 | britnety | keyboard takes long to respond(10-15s) |
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10:30.46 | rufsketch1 | in your home directory |
10:30.56 | britnety | ok |
10:31.02 | rufsketch1 | go to /.kde4/share/config/ |
10:31.06 | rufsketch1 | and open kwinrc |
10:31.09 | rufsketch1 | edit it to say |
10:31.36 | rufsketch1 | Backend=XRender |
10:31.46 | rufsketch1 | and GLDirect=false |
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10:32.16 | rufsketch1 | restart X and see if it works |
10:32.24 | rufsketch1 | I need to restart X as well |
10:32.27 | rufsketch1 | so i'll brb |
10:32.30 | britnety | how do i get a terminal |
10:32.55 | rufsketch1 | ctrl+alt+f2 |
10:33.16 | britnety | thanks |
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10:43.16 | Brucevdk | I'm a GNOME/Nautiluis guy but I'm trying out Konqueror for a moment to check out its facilities for extensions. Konqueror itself is a little bit overwhelming. How do I change it from using single click to open anything to double click? I don't have kcontrol and apt won't tell me what package it might be in. |
10:43.20 | Brucevdk | *Nautilus |
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10:43.52 | ponto | Brucevdk: are you using kde4? |
10:43.56 | Brucevdk | ponto: yes |
10:44.08 | ponto | Brucevdk: then I cannot help. I only know KDE 3. |
10:44.13 | Brucevdk | ponto: oh heh |
10:44.50 | Brucevdk | well to be precise I'm not running KDE4, but this is the KDE4 version of Konqueror. |
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10:49.11 | Brucevdk | ah the new control center is systemsettings |
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10:57.00 | Brucevdk | which has no settings for changing to double click |
10:58.33 | SSJ_GZ | Brucevdk: Same place as KDE3 - in the Mouse section. |
10:58.58 | Reptile | why do i loose fonts in some applications after installing nvidia driver ? |
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10:59.31 | Brucevdk | SSJ_GZ: I just found that on the forums but I don't even have a mouse section, I don't think Ubuntu installs the tool needed for that when you ask for konqueror, systemsettings. So just trying to find what package supplies it right now. |
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10:59.53 | SSJ_GZ | Brucevdk: Ooh, yuck - good luck! |
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11:01.02 | Brucevdk | SSJ_GZ: thanks ;-) |
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11:03.44 | Brucevdk | SSJ_GZ: can you in any way find out what the command for the mouse tool is? |
11:04.20 | Brucevdk | SSJ_GZ: like looking for it in ps auxwwww :-) |
11:04.22 | SSJ_GZ | Brucevdk: If it's installed: kcmshell4 mouse |
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11:11.57 | britney | rufsketch1 i managed to make the changes but am unable to restart X |
11:12.26 | rufsketch1 | britney |
11:12.36 | rufsketch1 | to restart X, ctrl+alt+F7 |
11:12.43 | rufsketch1 | then ctrl+alt+backspace |
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11:13.02 | britney | rufsketch1 forgot ctrl+alt+F7 |
11:13.27 | farhad_hf | hi |
11:13.38 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: hi |
11:13.47 | britney | rufsketch1 and under which header should i put the entries(backend = Xrender and GLDirect = false) |
11:13.57 | farhad_hf | hi rufsketch1 :) |
11:14.00 | rufsketch1 | farhad_hf: I'm now trying to compile a custom kernel to get fglrx working instead of radeon |
11:14.29 | rufsketch1 | britney: they should already be entered for you, just change the values. it should be under the first or second header |
11:14.59 | britney | rufsketch1 they arent entered, only some visual effect sentry is there |
11:15.03 | rufsketch1 | and not "Xrender" |
11:15.15 | rufsketch1 | it is "XRender" |
11:16.04 | rufsketch1 | britney: it should be under the [Compositing] header |
11:16.14 | rufsketch1 | Backend=XRender |
11:16.21 | britney | ok thnx |
11:16.25 | rufsketch1 | is the most important one |
11:16.31 | britney | k |
11:16.34 | rufsketch1 | make sure capitalization is correct |
11:16.44 | rufsketch1 | I'm not sure if spacing is important, but can't hurt |
11:16.49 | rufsketch1 | no spaces! |
11:17.40 | britney | kk |
11:17.50 | britney | thnxs a bunch will try |
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11:46.19 | kronic | with a dual monitor setup (using twinview and the attached monitor as the primary screen) with krandtray, can you have a mode which resizes all the contens onto one display? |
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12:00.34 | SJr | Hey Hey Hey |
12:00.43 | SJr | How are you my friends doing, today tonight?\ |
12:01.16 | SJr | Question I'm using Psi, which is an Jabber client, written in QT 4, it seems that the desktop effects in beta 2, seem to cause it to be VERY slow to resize the windows. |
12:01.21 | SJr | Any ideas, my friends? |
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12:08.10 | Brucevdk | SSJ_GZ: I ended up just installing all of kde, then changing the setting and the removing kde again |
12:08.23 | Brucevdk | SSJ_GZ: couldn't figure out what package supplies that system applet |
12:08.46 | SSJ_GZ | Brucevdk: That's a pain :/ |
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12:09.28 | britney | rufsketch1 doesnt work |
12:10.25 | rufsketch1 | same problem? |
12:10.38 | rufsketch1 | britney: desktop still hangs? |
12:10.51 | rufsketch1 | did you make sure to save the changes before you restarted X? |
12:11.35 | britney | rufsketch1 yes |
12:11.35 | britney | rufsketch1 i made the changes in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
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12:14.03 | britney | rufsketch1 i gtg k, hopefully later thnx |
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12:16.10 | rufsketch1 | k |
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12:20.39 | niac | I've accidentally closed the 4 little virtual desktops in the toolbar. How can I get them back? |
12:21.19 | freeedrich| | you removed the pager I guess. |
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12:21.30 | Jucato | niac: click on the cashew/plasma icon or right-click on an empty spot on the panel, select Add Widgets, then add the Pager widget |
12:21.34 | freeedrich| | niac: open "Add Widgets" go to "Pager" add it again. |
12:21.51 | freeedrich| | pff Jucato :P |
12:22.04 | Jucato | :) |
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12:22.22 | niac | freeedrich|, Jucato that's it. tks! |
12:22.33 | niac | "Pager" that's what I missed :) |
12:25.19 | niac | Is it possible to group similar stuff - like all opened konsoles - in the taskbar? |
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12:27.02 | niac | It was with kde2, but I don't find the way in kde3 |
12:27.05 | rufsketch1 | niac: yes, with the latest kde |
12:27.08 | rufsketch1 | oh |
12:27.10 | rufsketch1 | in kde 3 |
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12:27.14 | rufsketch1 | yes, it's possible as well |
12:27.28 | rufsketch1 | niac: are you just coming into kde3 from kde 2 now? |
12:27.33 | rufsketch1 | when kde 4 is coming out? |
12:27.34 | rufsketch1 | lol |
12:27.36 | niac | yep :) |
12:27.54 | rufsketch1 | I suggest making the jump to 4.2 in a month or so |
12:27.57 | rufsketch1 | but |
12:27.59 | rufsketch1 | in kde 3 |
12:28.06 | rufsketch1 | right click on the panel |
12:28.16 | rufsketch1 | and it will give you a bunch of options |
12:28.25 | rufsketch1 | one of them is to configure the panel |
12:28.31 | rufsketch1 | and amongst those, is an option to group similar tasks |
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12:29.53 | niac | rufsketch1, right click panel settings? |
12:31.04 | Jucato | <niac> It was with kde2, but I don't find the way in kde3 <--- huh? O.o |
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12:31.09 | niac | back, sorry?. |
12:31.12 | niac | sorry. |
12:31.17 | Jucato | niac: are you on KDE 3 or 4? |
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12:31.59 | Jucato | "Panel Settings" is a KDE 4 phrase in the right-click menu. if so, grouping tasks is only available in 4.2, to be released next month |
12:32.15 | niac | kde-config --> KDE: 3.5.10-3.fc10 Fedora |
12:32.34 | Jucato | niac: kde-config will always report kde3 |
12:32.42 | Jucato | kde4-config is the one that will report for kde4 |
12:33.13 | niac | Jucato, ok I'm on kde 4 then |
12:33.23 | niac | :) |
12:33.26 | Jucato | [20:29] <Jucato> "Panel Settings" is a KDE 4 phrase in the right-click menu. if so, grouping tasks is only available in 4.2, to be released next month |
12:33.32 | niac | ok, tks |
12:33.37 | niac | waiting for 4.2 |
12:33.39 | niac | :) |
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13:12.28 | manoj_ | hi |
13:14.31 | manoj_ | How can I have a search field next to the Location's fied in konqueror? |
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13:15.52 | Jucato | manoj_: install konq-plugins/konqueror-plugins for KDE 4 from your distro |
13:16.10 | manoj_ | Jucato: I am on kde 3.5 |
13:16.53 | Jucato | manoj_: install konq-pluginsfor KDE 3 from your distro |
13:17.10 | manoj_ | ok |
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13:21.36 | manoj_ | Jucato: thanks |
13:21.46 | manoj_ | bye bye |
13:21.50 | Jucato | bye |
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13:32.23 | Ace2016_- | has found a void in kde |
13:32.43 | Ace2016_- | 3 of my desktops have nothing on them, no wallpaper and no plasma |
13:32.59 | Ace2016_- | all i did was try compiz, then switch back to kde |
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14:01.38 | PragmaticAnarchy | hi , i'v just instaled kde4.1.3 in a gentoo amd64 system with lastest nvidia-drivers beta and Kwin is crashing on start up. this si the log http://rafb.net/p/gURy0W85.html |
14:01.53 | PragmaticAnarchy | and sorry about ma eglish.. it sux |
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14:03.58 | Admiral_Gringo | have you already tried using the non-beta nvidia-drivers? |
14:04.15 | PragmaticAnarchy | yes |
14:04.36 | PragmaticAnarchy | i get the same result but a slower system |
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14:10.08 | Ace2016_- | beta nvidia drivers are great |
14:12.01 | tuxick | *cough* |
14:12.04 | tuxick | <PROTECTED> |
14:12.12 | Ace2016_- | *vomit* |
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14:12.40 | tuxick | Option "PixmapCacheSize" "1000000" Option "AllowSHMPixmaps" "0" |
14:13.00 | tuxick | those to finally made my kde slightly faster than an old S3 trio would give |
14:13.14 | tuxick | for a day, 2 max |
14:13.24 | MinceR | lol |
14:15.04 | tuxick | i still can't use effects though |
14:15.15 | tuxick | kmail would crash my X when those are enabled |
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15:03.26 | peter123 | hello, do anybody know something about the short cut %y=date, %f=name of datei, %p= numer of page. Aim: 1/12. page one of twelve? You can find it in Kwrite, printing dialog.attributes of header. |
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15:04.53 | frando | Hey. Is it possible to assign a shortcut to an entry of the "Actions" menu in Dolphin? |
15:05.01 | frando | Running 4.2 trunk from SVN |
15:05.30 | frando | I would like to assign the "Preview" action (that opens the previewer plasmoid for the selected file) to the space key |
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15:05.46 | frando | to be able to quickly preview a file by pressing space.. as in osx |
15:06.03 | frando | Can't find it in the shortcuts dialog |
15:06.09 | frando | maybe manually in some config file? |
15:06.36 | pinotree | if it isn't in the shortcut configuration, then it is not available anywhere else |
15:07.39 | frando | pinotree: Hm, OK. So it is impossible to assign shortcuts to service menu entry (the stuff in the "actions" menu is service menu, right?)? |
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15:08.06 | pinotree | i don't remember offhand how that entry is added |
15:08.07 | frando | So then maybe a global shortcut that calls a dbus command to open the previewer with the selected file or something? |
15:08.11 | frando | OK. |
15:08.54 | frando | Would be great to have space bar trigger the previewer plasmoid by default in 4.2 |
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15:09.20 | frando | that's one of these small neat features I love about os x and which would be amazing to have in kde ... we're *nearly* there |
15:09.20 | pinotree | (then people say kde imitates osx...) |
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15:09.39 | frando | pinotree: well, than give it another shortcut, I couldn't care lesse |
15:09.44 | frando | as long as it's configurable |
15:09.47 | pinotree | what about return? |
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15:09.57 | frando | return opens the file, doesn't it? |
15:10.21 | frando | but an f key or something will do it as well |
15:10.30 | Jucato | In Konqueror, it can be configured to open in an embedded viewer if possible |
15:10.39 | pinotree | or preview it, depending on the embedding configuration and whether you are browsing files in konq or in dolphin |
15:11.01 | frando | Jucato: Right, but I really like this previewer plasmoid a lot.. it's nice and simple and looks just great |
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15:11.58 | frando | I mean, thumbnail previews in dolphin are great already, but to just quickly skim into a pdf file to see if it's the right one, pressing a simple shortcut and having this open the previewer plasmoid with the file would be amazing |
15:12.36 | pinotree | what is the problem of launching the normal application? |
15:12.46 | frando | and it's nearly there, right clicking the file and clicking actions -> preview this file works absolutley perfectly, all that's missing is the possibilty to assign a shortcut |
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15:13.08 | frando | pinotree: takes much longer. if I just want to quickly look at a picture or a pdf, I don't really have to start gwenview or okular |
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15:13.31 | pinotree | frando: question: what do you think the previewer plasmoid does to show you pdf documents? |
15:13.39 | pinotree | reply: it opens okular. |
15:14.04 | pinotree | the difference between opening okular directly or though the previewer plasmoid is NULL |
15:14.16 | frando | pinotree: it uses the okular kpart, i know. it's still faster for me on my system. also i can close it simply by pushing escape, and it doesn't open a new window, which I like for quickly previewing a file |
15:14.47 | pinotree | frando: dude, the okular part *is* okular, as the okular shell is simply a very thin layer |
15:15.08 | pinotree | frando: and you could trust me in that, given that i am the okular maintainer, so i know how things work there |
15:15.11 | frando | pinotree: yeah. it's still faster for me, at least in perception. maybe because no window has to be opened |
15:15.43 | pinotree | perception is just a workaround around untruth :) |
15:15.53 | frando | pinotree: true, but still ;) |
15:16.06 | pinotree | ... still no difference |
15:16.16 | frando | anyway, I don't really want to discuss the merits of the previewer plasmoid here, that has been done several times. the previewer plasmoid is there, is in trunk and works absolutely great. Dolphin integration is on the way with the entry in the actions menu, so having a shortcut here is is IMO a small feature that takes an existing one a little further |
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15:32.20 | Eren | hm, akregator4 doesn't save settings |
15:32.24 | Eren | has this issue been fixed? |
15:33.30 | Eren | moreover, when I change KMail sort order, it only applies to that folder only once. When I go to another folder and back, the settings aren't saved |
15:33.35 | Eren | it's really annoying :\ |
15:34.03 | PhilRod | Eren: same here with kmail |
15:34.29 | Eren | PhilRod: do you face the problem with akregator, too? |
15:34.32 | Eren | it uses too much CPU |
15:34.44 | PhilRod | don't use akregator sorry |
15:35.29 | ChemBro | Eren: do you use ubuntu? |
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15:35.35 | Eren | ChemBro: no |
15:35.40 | Eren | my distribution is Pardus |
15:35.46 | ChemBro | hm |
15:35.53 | flabr | hi...has anyone succeded in installing liquid weather under KDE 4.1? |
15:36.08 | ChemBro | i experienced the problem with not saving settings only in ubuntu |
15:36.38 | shepherd | Um I've added another "activity" by accident with the widget button ( thing that appears to make another desktop.. ,, how do I delete it ? now I have 2 addwidget buttons overlapping |
15:36.55 | ChemBro | flabr: this is not possible, unless someone fixes liquid weather for kde 4.1 |
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15:37.40 | flabr | ChemBro: omg...for me, that is the best superkaramba widget... |
15:37.45 | Eren | ChemBro: I've heard that KConf module has been changed and most of applications haven't ported themselves |
15:37.56 | Eren | Yakuake4 doesn't save settings, too |
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15:38.45 | Half-Left | A good weather plasmoid http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3811 |
15:39.24 | ChemBro | there are so many weather-plasmoids out there, i don't think, liquid weather will be fixed, because of this |
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15:39.50 | EtherNet | hello people |
15:40.07 | EtherNet | does anyone know why the Suspend to RAM and Suspend to DIsk options from the KDE 4.1 menu doesn't work? |
15:40.17 | EtherNet | unlike, when I do from the console hibernate-disk it works properly. |
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15:41.07 | Eren | huh.. notifications are really annoying :) |
15:41.11 | Eren | I can't hide 'em! |
15:41.33 | Half-Left | Ofcourse you can |
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15:41.52 | LinuxMafia | hi |
15:42.09 | Eren | yep, it can be hidden, but when new noticiation comes, the old ones are shown too |
15:42.16 | Eren | that's what I'm talking about |
15:42.22 | LinuxMafia | i add time to kicker and every time i relogin it dissapear |
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15:42.56 | LinuxMafia | any idea |
15:44.02 | Half-Left | Eren: Version? |
15:44.25 | Eren | KDE: 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2)) |
15:47.15 | Half-Left | systemsettings>Notifications |
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16:29.28 | chakie | interesting. when i click on a Konsole shortcut i have in my plasma panel, the konsole gets opened into a more or less random virtual desktop |
16:29.43 | chakie | sounds like a small bug |
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16:34.39 | LinuxMafia | hi how can i set different images for desktops |
16:34.41 | LinuxMafia | ? |
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16:52.37 | mraza72 | hello all |
16:52.56 | mraza72 | there is a problem I need some help on. |
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16:53.31 | mraza72 | I want to install my a4tech camera on Fedora 10, how do i do it? |
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16:53.42 | mraza72 | any help please |
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16:54.28 | Half-Left | Ask in #fedora |
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17:09.21 | root__ | السلام عليكم |
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17:20.09 | Pedric | hi, I am running (gnome-based) Ubuntu 8.10 and some KDE4 apps, how can I configure the appearance/qt style of those apps without installing all of KDE4? |
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17:21.20 | Dumble | Pedric, with qtconfig |
17:21.50 | Pedric | nope |
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17:22.23 | Pedric | tried qtconfig and qtconfig-qt4, konqueror and the like ignore that |
17:23.15 | Pedric | actually, it's just KDE4 apps that use the wrong style, while other QT4 apps like skype respect qtconfig-qt4 settings |
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17:28.02 | Pedric | Dumble, I also tried installing systemsettings, the kcontrol replacement, but it's not showing the styles tab under Appearance |
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17:30.30 | Dumble | there might be something wrong in your installation because this module is provided by systemsettings package itself (in gentoo and in debian) |
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17:31.05 | Half-Left | Pedric: GTK apps have never made a attempt to blend in with Qt apps, Qt has with cleanlooks, not sure why it dont work for you |
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17:35.05 | Pedric | Dumble: strange, will check that. http://tmp.dragonriders.de/qt4vsKde.png |
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17:35.52 | Pedric | Half-Left: that was not the points, this is about KDE4 apps under Gnome that I can't configure |
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17:37.12 | Half-Left | Pedric: Well it would be nice if GTK provided a theme that blended nice with Qt4 apps, but they dont |
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17:38.13 | Half-Left | Which would solve the issue |
17:38.36 | Pedric | I don't think you understand the issue I am having |
17:39.36 | Half-Left | I do, I'm just saying you wouldn't have the issue if the above was done |
17:40.05 | Half-Left | You may have to use gtk-qt4 |
17:40.21 | Pedric | I have installed a nice QT4 style that blends well with my Gnome desktop, but I can't configure the style KDE4 apps use... |
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17:41.04 | wedelergammler_ | hi |
17:41.14 | knoppix | hi |
17:41.26 | wedelergammler_ | ohhr endlich einer der schreibt |
17:41.26 | knoppix | Wow lots of Linux users in here |
17:41.38 | knoppix | Sorry I'm an english type guy |
17:41.43 | wedelergammler_ | can you speak german |
17:41.44 | Half-Left | Sounds like your missing a packages or something if cleanlooks is not in the system settings for KDE4.x |
17:41.49 | knoppix | No |
17:41.58 | knoppix | I'm just a dummy in language |
17:41.59 | wedelergammler_ | hmm.. borring |
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17:43.37 | Pedric | Half-Left: It's not that Cleanlooks is not available in in systemsettings (which I am running from Gnome in that screenshot above, I don't have KDE installed in it's full blown glory), it that the entire module to configure the style KDE4 is using is missing |
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17:44.11 | knoppix | Windows Vista Rocks! |
17:44.56 | knoppix | h ha hah ... heh... :| |
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17:46.17 | knoppix | Crazy_pete how are you? |
17:46.26 | crazy_pete | hi knoppix |
17:46.32 | knoppix | Hi. |
17:46.33 | crazy_pete | i am happy how are u? |
17:46.40 | knoppix | Sure. |
17:47.27 | knoppix | How are things, where you at? |
17:47.43 | knoppix | I put out a cheap troll trying to see if anyone would bite, but nobody did. |
17:48.00 | knoppix | Anyone here programin Delphi? |
17:48.42 | knoppix | Who likes Gnome better than KDE? |
17:49.20 | Half-Left | It's a KDE support channel, use it like that or dont bother coming in |
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17:50.05 | crazy_pete | i am afraid i dont know what delphi is |
17:50.09 | knoppix | Ok, fair enough can anyone direct me to a more bland open chat channel |
17:50.27 | crazy_pete | and my largest objection to kde is the fact that some KDE apps use gnome libs :) |
17:50.30 | Half-Left | #kde-chat |
17:50.48 | knoppix | What is wrong with that? A well written DLL or LIB is just that no matter who it is for |
17:51.01 | Half-Left | crazy_pete: Which ones? |
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17:51.21 | crazy_pete | which apps or which libs? |
17:51.28 | knoppix | What language is KDE written in C++? |
17:51.35 | Half-Left | which gnome libs do you refer to? |
17:51.51 | Half-Left | which KDE uses |
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17:52.04 | crazy_pete | oh i am not sure tbh, i was surprised to some dependencies on gnome/gtk when installing some kde stuff |
17:52.26 | charleswfb | knoppix: mostly C++ but there are bindings to other languages |
17:52.27 | Half-Left | It's not true btw so I dont know where you get that idea from |
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17:52.42 | legodude_ | is there a problem with window management effects and 4.2? |
17:53.20 | crazy_pete | well for example konqueror links to glib |
17:53.40 | crazy_pete | of course it is debatable whether glib is "gnome" or "glib" :) |
17:54.12 | crazy_pete | so yes it IS true, Half-Left and as u were kind enough to point out to knoppix, we could examine for more information in #kde-chat :) |
17:54.40 | Pedric | is there a Kubuntu 8.10 user that could pastebin dpkg-query -L systemsettings to me? |
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17:55.48 | Half-Left | crazy_pete: Go ask GNOME devs if glib is a "GNOME" library then |
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17:56.24 | Half-Left | Pedric: Try #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
17:56.47 | crazy_pete | gnome developers are idiots Half-Left |
17:57.01 | crazy_pete | but like i said i am glad to move this to #kde-chat Half-Left |
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17:57.34 | Half-Left | Not for me |
17:57.38 | Zorix | um |
17:57.42 | Zorix | glib is not gnome |
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17:57.50 | Zorix | its gnu libraries |
17:58.01 | crazy_pete | not glibc |
17:58.02 | crazy_pete | glib |
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17:58.41 | Half-Left | Indeed, it's like saying GTK is GNOME libs |
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17:59.02 | crazy_pete | moving things back on topic here is a support question |
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17:59.33 | crazy_pete | is it possible, in konversation, to ignore people in a specific channel but be able to converse with them in OTHER channels? |
18:00.03 | Zorix | glib is gnu libraries for gtk which is gnu tool kit.. not gnome |
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18:00.17 | Half-Left | Exactly |
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18:00.43 | crazy_pete | It would a good feature for dealing with certain types of people who direct others off topic chat to more appropriate channels but then insist on babbling their own off topic arguments while refusing themselves to move to a more appropriate channel? :) |
18:01.38 | Half-Left | crazy_pete: Dont try to blame others for your wrong assumtion that glib is a gnome lib |
18:02.07 | crazy_pete | dont try to get me into an off topic argument Half-Left i believe you are wrong, but i am not going to discuss it here |
18:02.27 | Zorix | if you dont agree then google it and find for yourself |
18:02.35 | Half-Left | You started it the offtopicness in the first place |
18:02.37 | Zorix | simple as that |
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18:14.00 | aoliveira | where is the Xserver file on kdm? |
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18:15.37 | cbr | what does the "Keep window thumbnails: [Only for shown windows|Always|Never]" mean in desktop effects config dialog? |
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18:15.51 | pedepy | k so what exactly it strigi and what does it do and what is it for and why does it work hard at reducing the lifespan of my hdd |
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18:16.41 | BtbN | Description: Fast crawling desktop search engine with Qt4 GUI |
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18:17.00 | danuthaiduc | wow kde svn is fast |
18:17.42 | danuthaiduc | at first glance, the defects i see are color picker and applications menu turn back |
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18:18.38 | danuthaiduc | otherwise, it feels awesome |
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18:20.04 | danuthaiduc | also, "offer shutdown options" doesn't actually do that |
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18:21.03 | Half-Left | It does |
18:21.18 | Half-Left | If you untick it it just offers logout |
18:21.47 | danuthaiduc | but it's ticked |
18:21.51 | danuthaiduc | and it only shows logout |
18:21.54 | danuthaiduc | i didn't do anything |
18:22.28 | Half-Left | Your using the "Leave" option on the right click desktop? |
18:22.33 | danuthaiduc | no |
18:22.44 | danuthaiduc | on the big blue square K menu |
18:22.50 | Half-Left | Well thats how it works to |
18:23.07 | danuthaiduc | it doesn't work with the desktop one either |
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18:23.12 | danuthaiduc | it's not working |
18:23.26 | Half-Left | Does here |
18:23.44 | danuthaiduc | i'm using 4.1.86 |
18:23.48 | Half-Left | Leave, gives a list of shutdown options |
18:24.02 | danuthaiduc | no |
18:24.05 | danuthaiduc | only the default one |
18:24.57 | Half-Left | Well it's working as expected here |
18:25.08 | danuthaiduc | what version do you have? |
18:25.25 | Half-Left | Version 4.1.86 (KDE 4.1.86 (KDE 4.2 >= 20081221)) |
18:25.40 | danuthaiduc | are you using Arch linux by any chance? |
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18:25.55 | Half-Left | Exactly yes but I compile from trunk |
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18:26.02 | Half-Left | actually* |
18:26.12 | danuthaiduc | you compiled it yourself? |
18:26.16 | Half-Left | yes |
18:26.22 | danuthaiduc | i got it from some repo |
18:26.34 | danuthaiduc | i got x86_64 |
18:26.39 | Half-Left | Same here |
18:26.45 | danuthaiduc | weird.. |
18:27.15 | danuthaiduc | brb |
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18:29.33 | piquadrat | Hi! Is Google Gadget support for plasma still planned for KDE 4.2? I'm on the Kubuntu Beta2 packages and am wondering if there's a packaging problem or if support for Google Gadgets was dropped for the 4.2 line |
18:30.01 | pinotree | packaging issue |
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18:30.11 | pinotree | (it is there, actively developed) |
18:30.13 | Half-Left | piquadrat: Yes 4.2 will(does) support it and intergrates it |
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18:31.08 | piquadrat | Cool. Well, I'll have to go poke the Kubuntu packagers, then :) |
18:34.11 | danuthaiduc | hmm plasma crashes are regular |
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18:36.40 | ChemBro | plasma crashes with the use of the comic-plasmoid for me, but that's the only one |
18:37.30 | danuthaiduc | quicklaunch crashed for me |
18:37.40 | danuthaiduc | I think I double-clicked |
18:37.51 | Half-Left | Qt version? |
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18:38.15 | danuthaiduc | sorry for being noob, but how do I find that out? |
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18:39.50 | Half-Left | You can quary your package manager about it |
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18:44.39 | danuthaiduc | aha finally i have qt3 3.3.8-9 |
18:45.02 | Half-Left | You should use a newer version, thats why you have crashes |
18:45.12 | danuthaiduc | ok, thanks |
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18:48.47 | Half-Left | 4.4.3 or Qt-copy |
18:49.02 | danuthaiduc | hmm |
18:49.11 | danuthaiduc | i was using qt-copy but didn't notice |
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18:51.04 | farhad_hf | hi all |
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18:51.25 | danuthaiduc | for some reason enter doesn't work in the alt-f2 box |
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18:59.32 | freeedrich| | danuthaiduc: not when your cursor is still in the input box. use tabulator to switch |
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19:00.25 | Kame2 | freeedrich|: it works, if you don't write the full command. so 'amaro<enter>' works, but 'amarok<enter>' not |
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19:03.35 | danuthaiduc | yay another bug to report |
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19:05.48 | luca_b | danuthaiduc: actually if you cancel one letter then input it again, it works |
19:06.01 | luca_b | I mean, delete |
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19:07.03 | danuthaiduc | ok, thanks for the workarounds |
19:07.55 | luca_b | also, subsequent runs of the same command seem to work fine |
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19:15.38 | AL13N | I've just installed mandriva 2009.0 (with kde 4.1) and when sending an email in kmail, kmail crashes (the mail is not sent), the smtp is not using any authentication of ssl options |
19:15.51 | AL13N | any idea where to look? how to fix? |
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19:34.03 | downhill_ | aseigo; Nice work on 4.2 b2 :) Had the chance to install Kubuntu and check it out. Pro. cheers to you and the rest of the folks who are making it happen ^_^ |
19:34.12 | aseigo | downhill_: =) |
19:34.16 | downhill_ | <insert standard bugs clause here> |
19:34.44 | downhill_ | still impressing me every single update :D keep up the great work! |
19:35.24 | Half-Left | Yes, soon we will convert all the Ubuntu people, muuuhahahaha |
19:35.31 | downhill_ | haha |
19:36.05 | SoopamanLuva84 | why is there no "copy link location" when i right click on a link in konqy? |
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19:37.46 | downhill_ | aseigo; Could you possibly clarify why Plasma on Windows is unsupported? If you have the time... |
19:37.55 | downhill_ | (to explain) |
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19:38.48 | aseigo | downhill_: the plasma shell is unsupported. it may be supported in 4.3, but it's completely experimental at the moment |
19:38.56 | downhill_ | oooh, I see. |
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19:39.20 | downhill_ | it's just a "too soon" type of thing. not a "we won't ever help with the bugs" type thing. |
19:39.23 | flabr | hi there...just wonder if liquid weather works with KDE 4.1? |
19:39.33 | aseigo | downhill_: we don't have enough people working on the desktop shell part of plasma on windows to be able to effectively support it right now... libplasma is a different matter, but the desktop shell replacement.. wlel, not yet |
19:39.35 | flabr | i mean...liquid weather 15.0 |
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19:39.45 | downhill_ | ok ^_^ |
19:39.51 | downhill_ | that makes perfect sense, aseigo, thank you :) |
19:41.17 | downhill_ | a funny thing happened today - my friend saw Ravirdv's YouTube video of KDE4 w/ plasma and all running on Windows 7 pre-beta and thought that it was Microsoft's new desktop shell haha |
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19:42.12 | S-i-A | hi |
19:42.33 | S-i-A | how can save the Konsole text in .text file? |
19:43.37 | crazy_pete | scrollback -> save output |
19:45.25 | S-i-A | crazy_pete: but i will automatic save like the logs her |
19:45.40 | crazy_pete | i dont know try it |
19:45.45 | crazy_pete | experiment a bit S-i-A |
19:46.14 | crazy_pete | there is also an edit -> copy input menu choice in konsole |
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19:51.45 | Bacta | Anyone considering a suit against Microsoft would be in a good position right now after looking at the screenshots of Windows 7 ;) |
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19:55.11 | allaun | what was the url for grub problems in sabayon 4 again? |
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19:57.43 | tuxick | heh, konq crashed second time this evening |
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20:01.48 | danuthaiduc | wtf |
20:01.56 | allaun | ? |
20:01.59 | danuthaiduc | knotify is using 67% of cpu |
20:02.08 | allaun | lower its nice level? |
20:02.24 | allaun | i mean raise sorry |
20:02.31 | allaun | lower gives it more priortity :p |
20:02.37 | danuthaiduc | it still uses a lot |
20:02.39 | danuthaiduc | now 87 |
20:02.58 | danuthaiduc | i am tempted to kill it |
20:04.08 | danuthaiduc | i killed it and nothing else malfunctioned |
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20:05.18 | AL13N | anyone else seen of heard of a problem with kmail and sending mail via SMTP? |
20:05.25 | AL13N | kde 4.1 |
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20:06.10 | ChemBro | only with attachements |
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20:16.34 | AL13N | ChemBro: no attachments, no SMTP auth, nothing |
20:16.41 | AL13N | just simple test |
20:18.29 | sharp15 | does anyone have the sparkfun blog's rss feed working in akregator 1.2.9 (kde 3.5.9) ? i keep getting a message saying the feed doesn't exist but i'm looking at the feed in firefox. |
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20:22.19 | sharp15 | i'm using gentoo if that is helpful information. and the exact error message is "Feed not found from http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/rss.php." |
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20:29.18 | flabr | hi there....everytime I open Dolphin...it starts maximized Full Screen....how can I change that? |
20:29.35 | downhill_ | flabr; are you using KDE 4.2 beta 2? |
20:30.06 | flabr | kde4.1 |
20:31.03 | downhill_ | hmm, well, you can set a kwin rule to always open it with a certain geometry... |
20:31.23 | flabr | i am running compiz... |
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20:31.33 | downhill_ | not sure then |
20:31.39 | downhill_ | maybe someone else knows :) |
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20:32.04 | flabr | i right clicked on the toolbar...on Dolphin...and there u can choose do disable Full Screen...but everytime i re open Dolphin...full screen is enabled |
20:32.16 | Half-Left | flabr: compiz is a window manager so it has it's own rules |
20:32.49 | tearsofash | That reminds me, I can never remember where to go change the window manager. |
20:32.53 | tearsofash | gets looking |
20:33.02 | flabr | Half-Left: right...but I experience just Dolphin having this issue...for example...firefox does not open in Full Screen mode |
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20:33.07 | jazka | system settings -> default applications |
20:33.07 | downhill_ | tearsofash; systemsettings > Advanced tab > session management |
20:33.27 | Half-Left | flabr: yer we dton support compiz here |
20:33.31 | Half-Left | dont* |
20:34.17 | tearsofash | I recently made the jump KDE4 |
20:34.20 | tearsofash | It's pretty cool |
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20:34.36 | downhill_ | the "best" desktop I know of :D |
20:34.47 | tearsofash | I'm trying to get my g/f to make the switch from 3.5 |
20:34.56 | tearsofash | But I think we're having RAM issues |
20:35.30 | sharp15 | wow. the channel is generally quiet today. must be the holiday. |
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20:36.04 | flabr | but unfortunately...my favorite superkaramba applet... liquid weather...does not work under 4.1 |
20:36.08 | ttyX | is there any lst.fm plugin fir juk? |
20:36.16 | ttyX | last* |
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20:36.28 | tearsofash | Gawr -- it doesn't seem to be in session manager |
20:36.52 | tearsofash | I'm pretty sure I have different ones installed |
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20:37.22 | downhill_ | tearsofash; I *think* it only supports compiz and kwin, but I'm not sure. |
20:37.28 | downhill_ | don't quote me on that |
20:37.54 | tearsofash | I'm also using opensuse, so things might be in a strange spot |
20:38.23 | tearsofash | searches |
20:41.09 | tearsofash | Found it |
20:41.19 | tearsofash | It's under "Default Applications" |
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20:42.45 | downhill_ | really? |
20:42.49 | downhill_ | wow... |
20:43.37 | sharp15 | anyone have an idea what i should do about my akregator error or should i ask the gentoo folks? |
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20:48.44 | PhrkOnLsh | Why does desktop sphere not "work?" It renders a cube with spherical top thingies |
20:49.05 | PhrkOnLsh | sharp15: What's the problem, now? |
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20:50.12 | Daphko | Hi |
20:50.13 | Daphko | jemand da |
20:50.34 | Daphko | kann ich Ornderhintergrundfarbe von weiss auf irgendeine andere farbe umstellen1? |
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20:54.01 | shepherd | I love kde4 all this time I thought "wow no icons on desktop, this sucks" but now I am forced to use folders.. kde4 has turned me into such an organized person -.- |
20:54.18 | downhill_ | hahaha |
20:54.19 | danuthaiduc | haha |
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20:54.49 | sharp15 | PhrkOnLsh: not sure. just that my akregator install is refusing to acknowledge some rss feeds. |
20:54.58 | downhill_ | amazing what a great design and some elbow grease can accomplish |
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20:55.37 | PhrkOnLsh | Daphko: #kde-de (that is german, right? |
20:55.39 | PhrkOnLsh | ) |
20:56.03 | Daphko | ok |
20:56.22 | Daphko | i just changed the colors of window dekoration |
20:56.36 | Daphko | but when i go to my home dir |
20:57.07 | Daphko | then the background is white, so i asked how can i change the color |
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20:57.26 | Daphko | i dont find where i can change this |
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21:00.16 | PhrkOnLsh | Daphko: It's on the systemsettings page, where you config the colors, under colors, it's in the view dropdown |
21:00.44 | Daphko | PhrkOnLsh: can you help me ? |
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21:01.06 | PhrkOnLsh | Daphko: Isn't that where it is? "normal background" |
21:02.14 | Daphko | i´m not sure |
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21:04.34 | Daphko | the color of the normal background is gray but the background of my dir is white, so i dont know where the option is |
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21:08.04 | serenity | re |
21:08.16 | serenity | where can i find pino's latest wallpaper for 4.2? |
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21:10.00 | pinotree | serenity: ?? |
21:10.16 | SSJ_GZ | serenity: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/wallpapers/Air/contents/images/ |
21:10.24 | SSJ_GZ | (and it's "pinheiro ;)) |
21:10.28 | SSJ_GZ | +" |
21:10.29 | danuthaiduc | nice! |
21:10.37 | serenity | ok, sry about that |
21:10.48 | SSJ_GZ | pinotree: You know, maybe you should make a wallpaper :) |
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21:11.00 | pinotree | ... |
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21:11.36 | danuthaiduc | i'd make something abstract and as unintrusive as possible |
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21:11.58 | danuthaiduc | a plain blue pixel! |
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21:29.55 | exothermc | We just installed unbutu latest version and are running kde, but kcontrol doesn't seem to exist. |
21:29.58 | exothermc | any ideas? |
21:30.33 | MoDaX | exothermc: afaik, the latest kubuntu is kde4 based |
21:30.52 | exothermc | MoDaX: yup |
21:31.03 | MoDaX | kcontrol is kde3 thingy |
21:31.06 | exothermc | MoDaX: hence the fact we are running kde |
21:31.12 | exothermc | ohhh |
21:31.18 | PhrkOnLsh | exothermc: try systemsettings ;) |
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21:31.37 | exothermc | PhrkOnLsh: That is some pretty dumbed down settings. |
21:31.49 | exothermc | PhrkOnLsh: Where do you go to find more useful settings? |
21:32.02 | hallowname | exothermc: nah, some settings just moved or simplified... |
21:32.03 | PhrkOnLsh | exothermc: It's all there. It's designed to be more user friendly |
21:32.17 | PhrkOnLsh | no more hierarchial menu of hell... |
21:32.40 | exothermc | PhrkOnLsh: So where would I look for detailed configuration of my network interfaces. |
21:33.09 | PhrkOnLsh | Ubuntu's configuration crap? |
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21:33.26 | exothermc | PhrkOnLsh: For instance I can't seem to find any place that gives a hint of editing the IP, much less trying to bridge an interface. |
21:34.38 | PhrkOnLsh | yeah, that wouldn't have been in kcontrol in the first place |
21:34.47 | PhrkOnLsh | It's in whatever tool KUbuntu uses... |
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21:35.16 | arezey | systemsettings? |
21:35.37 | PhrkOnLsh | exothermc: ok, let me google that for you |
21:35.39 | PhrkOnLsh | http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html#sect-interentandnetwork |
21:36.52 | exothermc | ahh I didn't know it was ubuntu specific. I guess there isn't a standard kde configuration interface. |
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21:38.07 | PhrkOnLsh | exothermc: SuSE uses Yast, I didn't think that Kubuntu would integrate EVERYTHING into systemsettings (as it should I guess, i've just not seen a distro really 'do' it ;) ) |
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21:55.02 | PhrkOnLsh | Wheee |
21:55.02 | hallowname | wow, massive freenode fail... never seen that before... |
21:55.02 | hallowname | anyone here need help? |
21:55.02 | hallowname | state your problems! :P |
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21:55.04 | downhill_ | hallowname; I need money. |
21:55.04 | exothermc | hallowname: looking at migrating from kde 3.5 to 4.1 specifically with konsole. |
21:55.04 | downhill_ | oh and my sister needs to pick up her cats now that she's moved in. |
21:55.17 | exothermc | is the suggested method to use konsole from 3.5 with 4.1? |
21:55.20 | downhill_ | oh, right, KDE problems, sorry. *whistles* |
21:55.41 | hallowname | downhill_: me to, feel free to send some :P |
21:55.53 | hallowname | exothermc: for a stable machine? or are you a programmer? |
21:56.23 | exothermc | hallowname: sysadmin. I can read some code, but I wouldn't say I'm a programmer. |
21:56.39 | downhill_ | high-fives exothermc |
21:56.58 | hallowname | exothermc: hmm, i don't know about a 4.1 migration then, it's not very stable, but it is usable |
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21:57.38 | exothermc | hallowname: So about konsole........ |
21:57.45 | hallowname | exothermc: what's the konsole issue? |
21:58.02 | spaceninja | how can I install kolourpaint without installing kde, I'm using blackbox, and I don't want the whole kde thing when I'm enjoying blackbox :) |
21:58.04 | downhill_ | exothermc; the new konsole has a few less features, but not a whole lot you'll probably miss. |
21:58.08 | hallowname | exothermc: i used 4.1 konsole, and it worked fine, just like the 4.2 and trunk konsoles... |
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21:58.14 | LnxSlck | how are kdm themes handled in kde4? |
21:58.20 | exothermc | hallowname: all my sessions from 3.5. Can I get things into bookmarks or profiles. |
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21:58.32 | hallowname | exothermc: really i didn't notice any changes in konsole... still does everything i need |
21:58.39 | hallowname | exothermc: konsole has sessions in 4.1 too i think |
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21:59.00 | hallowname | exothermc: they shouldn't be completely backward-incompatible... |
21:59.28 | LnxSlck | hallowname, one can have saved sessions on konsole? ip, user and pass? |
21:59.39 | exothermc | hallowname: ya, that has changed. |
21:59.54 | hallowname | exothermc: ahh, really? i hadn't noticed :P |
22:00.21 | exothermc | http://www.ibcl.at/ibclweb/ibclweb?page=ShowBLogArticle&service=external&sp=l173 |
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22:03.54 | PhrkOnLsh | If anything I think konsole dose more... |
22:04.04 | PhrkOnLsh | Like highlighting links, that's seriously really cool. |
22:04.09 | exothermc | PhrkOnLsh: more than? |
22:04.21 | PhrkOnLsh | kde4's konsole as compared to kde3's sorry |
22:04.26 | PhrkOnLsh | more than xterm? ;) |
22:04.30 | exothermc | lol |
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22:06.35 | linex | I change my desktop type tp FolderView old-style. Now the context menu does not have Appearance Setting. How do I check back to Desktop style? Anyone ? |
22:07.55 | hallowname | linex: isn't it isn't under systemsettings somewhere? |
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22:09.32 | dex | hi all can you tell me about something good file browser other than dolphin and konqueror? |
22:09.55 | linex | hallowname: let me check. |
22:10.02 | Kame2 | it isn't |
22:10.06 | Kame2 | linex |
22:10.21 | hallowname | dex: qt4ish? i dunno, checked qt-apps.org yet? |
22:10.29 | Kame2 | like i said in #gentoo-kde: you find in in the cashew |
22:10.53 | hallowname | Kame2: ingenius |
22:10.55 | linex | Kame2: you did answered me ? sorry I didn't see. |
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22:11.16 | Kame2 | np ;) |
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22:12.02 | linex | Kame2: I don't see it in cashew either |
22:12.15 | hallowname | linex: you have a problem then ;) |
22:12.20 | linex | Kame2: there is Delete this Folder View |
22:12.30 | Kame2 | oO |
22:12.31 | linex | Kame2: is that the one ? |
22:12.33 | Kame2 | no |
22:12.38 | Kame2 | ther should be |
22:12.40 | Kame2 | let me check |
22:13.12 | linex | I have 5 items in cashew |
22:14.01 | linex | Add Widgets , Zoom Out, Lock Widgets, Folder View Setting and Remove this Folder View. |
22:14.24 | Kame2 | i have 'Add widgets' 'Zoom out' 'Lock Widgets' and 'Appearance Settings' |
22:14.31 | linex | hallowname: huge problem |
22:14.48 | Kame2 | i should switch to folderview... |
22:15.00 | linex | Kame2: thats because you have Desktop style set |
22:15.05 | linex | yes |
22:15.13 | Kame2 | but |
22:15.16 | linex | switch and see for yourself |
22:15.16 | Kame2 | it stays |
22:15.28 | Kame2 | i ge folderview settings, but all other buttons stay |
22:15.33 | Kame2 | +t |
22:15.37 | linex | you changed to Folder View ? |
22:15.41 | Kame2 | yes |
22:15.56 | linex | and still Appearance Setting there ? |
22:16.00 | Kame2 | sure |
22:16.12 | Kame2 | and i know it is there since some more time |
22:16.12 | linex | urgh |
22:16.26 | Kame2 | maybe not with beta 1, but i think so |
22:16.45 | Kame2 | it's in beta 2 for sure |
22:17.02 | linex | I'm in 4.2 beta1 |
22:17.08 | linex | .85 |
22:17.12 | Kame2 | thats beta 2 |
22:17.12 | linex | 4.1.85 |
22:17.23 | linex | sorry beta 2 |
22:17.26 | linex | I'm using beta2 |
22:17.38 | linex | Kame2: is there another way ? |
22:17.57 | linex | is there a command line ? |
22:18.05 | Kame2 | i don't think so |
22:18.30 | linex | so I'm screwed ? |
22:18.42 | linex | it can't be I'm screwed |
22:18.57 | linex | I'm screwed for this ? |
22:19.03 | Kame2 | give me some time |
22:19.05 | Kame2 | i test |
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22:19.51 | Dumble | is KDE 4.2 stable enough for everyday use ? |
22:19.56 | LnxSlck | yes |
22:22.32 | Kame2 | 4.1.85 is starting up. lets see what hapens there |
22:23.06 | Kame2 | something strange... splash shows only the first icon... nothing is happening :-/ |
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22:25.42 | Dumble | hurt it |
22:25.44 | Kame2 | brb |
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22:27.41 | dsafda | is there a way to have the panel clock on one row only? I want even the date, but it set on two row, I want it on one, as on kde3, is there a way? thanks |
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22:29.04 | Dumble | code it ? or maybe with a bigger panel ? |
22:29.21 | Dumble | it is shown in 1 row when on the desktop |
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22:32.56 | Kame2 | linex: http://imagebin.ca/view/5wLgVzNR.html |
22:33.02 | Kame2 | its in german, but it is there |
22:33.10 | Kame2 | gentoo, kde 4.1.85 |
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22:34.05 | Kame2 | but i also get the settings on right click |
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22:35.54 | linex | Kame2: I'm on gentoo and 4.1.85 too |
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22:36.52 | Kame2 | strange |
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22:40.38 | dsafda | Dumble: maybe I can code it... but I'm running a kde4 suse 11.1 stable repo, so I don't know, if I can set it by config files |
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22:40.59 | dsafda | anyway it was "normal" on the good old kde4, so maybe it should be implemented even on kde4 |
22:41.41 | dsafda | on the good old kde3, the clock panel was on 2 row, if the panel was large, it was on one row on smaller panel... |
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22:41.57 | linex | Kame2: surely, there is a config file somewhere I can change manually |
22:42.40 | Kame2 | .kde4.2/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
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22:43.35 | zce | pgup and pgdn works fine in Kate, but it does nothing on Konsole.. home and end also does not work (those are actually on keypad) |
22:43.40 | Kame2 | girlfriend wants to sleep so i have to go. good night |
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22:44.57 | Kame2 | linex: maybe look, if not all packages are 4.1.85. if all are up to date, i don't know, why you don't get the 'normal' options |
22:45.29 | linex | Kame2: maybe I did not install something |
22:45.38 | hallowname | linex: have you tried reading the menu 'very carefully' ;) |
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22:45.45 | hallowname | runs and hides |
22:46.01 | Kame2 | if you have folderview, you have installed all you need ^^ |
22:46.05 | Kame2 | night |
22:46.14 | arlenik | For some reason when I click on a *.exe file it doesn't start. This happened after I installed QtCreator. anyone know a fix for it? |
22:46.17 | linex | caught hallowname and gave him a punch |
22:47.07 | linex | arezey: .exe ? are you joking ? |
22:47.17 | arezey | hm? |
22:47.20 | linex | arezey: are you using wine ? |
22:47.33 | arezey | sure, but i dunno about arlenik. |
22:47.33 | drantin | #kde-windows ? |
22:47.34 | arlenik | no, i'm being serious. and no, i'm not using wine |
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22:47.38 | hallowname | arezey: right click > open with... > wine |
22:47.49 | hallowname | oops |
22:47.51 | arezey | != arlenik |
22:47.58 | hallowname | arezey: sry |
22:48.03 | arezey | it's nothing. |
22:48.06 | arlenik | these are just regular *.exe files that have worked before. Now I get a "Open with" dialog in Konqueror when I try to run them |
22:48.10 | hallowname | arlenik: you need wine to run .exe files |
22:48.32 | hallowname | arlenik: .exe's don't work in unix-land mate, u trollin? |
22:48.41 | arlenik | I mean just reqular executable files |
22:48.46 | arlenik | I'm in linux |
22:48.51 | arezey | then you need wine. |
22:49.01 | hallowname | arlenik: like the 'chmod +x' type of executable? |
22:49.03 | linex | oh wrong person |
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22:49.20 | hallowname | arezey: you have bad name luck today |
22:49.22 | arlenik | with *.exe i mean linux executables. not windows |
22:49.32 | arezey | hallowname, it seems so. |
22:49.51 | linex | arlenik: then just say a binary file , don't say *.exe file |
22:49.57 | hallowname | arlenik: try to open one with bash |
22:50.28 | arlenik | it work with bash, but it doesn't work in konqueror when i left click on it |
22:50.41 | arlenik | I get a "open with" dialog instead |
22:50.48 | linex | Excuse him guys, a new convert from MS. |
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22:54.22 | arlenik | any idea why I'm getting a "open with" dialog instead of it just running ?? |
22:54.37 | linex | how do I restart plasma ? |
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22:56.19 | hallowname | linex: killall plasma, followed by 'plasma &' |
22:56.20 | gkiagia | linex: "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
22:56.32 | hallowname | gkiagia: beacha :P |
22:56.37 | gkiagia | hehe |
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22:56.55 | gkiagia | killall will cause current settings to be lost, btw |
22:57.53 | hallowname | gkiagia: hmm, never noticed... |
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22:58.35 | gkiagia | arlenik: if the file doesn't run, it is either not a valid executable or it doesn't have executable permissions |
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23:00.32 | Mirrakor | in the KDE4-launcher I've two entries for netbean, one working and one nt working (outdated, how can I remove it?) |
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23:01.00 | gkiagia | hallowname: fyi, killall just kills the application. kquitapp will cause it to terminate normally. plasma saves it's settings when it quits, so if you kill it, you don't give it a chance to save it's settings normally :) |
23:01.38 | gkiagia | Mirrakor: kmenuedit ? |
23:01.51 | Mirrakor | that thing still exists? |
23:01.53 | hallowname | gkiagia: i kno, ima plasmoid programmer... but when i killall, my .kde doesn't change, so plasma reads it fine upon next start, never had the problem your talking about... |
23:02.05 | gkiagia | Mirrakor: yep |
23:02.48 | gkiagia | hallowname: I am talking about settings that were changed in this plasma session and are not written to disk yet |
23:03.06 | gkiagia | of course previous settings are kept :) |
23:03.22 | gkiagia | well, that was the case in 4.1, maybe it has changed now... |
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23:04.25 | Neo_ | Good Evening together x) |
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23:05.30 | AlNahar | help |
23:05.35 | AlNahar | anyone use knx? |
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23:15.14 | Mirrakor | gkiagia: is there a search function? |
23:15.53 | gkiagia | I don't think so |
23:18.09 | GraveDigger | is there a kde infrared application for kde4 like irkick for 3? |
23:18.27 | pinotree | kdelirc is under work, but not ready yet |
23:18.39 | GraveDigger | okay, thank you pinotree |
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23:29.57 | glen | duplicate bookmarks menu in beta2 is something like normal? |
23:30.41 | SSJ_GZ | glen: Yes - there is a patch floating around but it hasn't been applied yet. |
23:31.31 | glen | good it's addressed, bad that it's not applied in svn |
23:31.51 | glen | i recall also similar duplicate menu stuff from kwrite/kate (don't recall exactly which) from kde3 times |
23:32.05 | glen | but unstickiness of "hide menubar"? |
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23:32.44 | glen | like i disable "show menu bar" and it becames back when i switch konsole tabs |
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23:38.24 | rog_ | hola |
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23:41.08 | cryogenfx | hello. I'm trying to setup kaddressbook with freeldap.org, and i'm running into some troubles. and the fields vary wildly from the screenshots of mozilla/outlook/evolution and the others in the help doc in freeldap.org. antone able to help me? |
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23:41.37 | habarnam | glen, I confirm your problem, also I didn't notice since when, but Konsole's menu doesn't have accelerators anymore (KDE svn here) |
23:42.08 | cryogenfx | i'm using 4.2beta2 btw |
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