IRC log for #kde on 20081229

00:00.49gkiagiaSilouck: it does have such a feature
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00:13.03knubbeSilouck: there is a search box in the program
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00:46.38mfilipewhat is deinterlacing method in xine backend?
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01:12.56shevymfilipe probably needed if you have interlaced video content from some tv show or something
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01:15.54mfilipeshevy: thanks
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01:55.01Jahootyhow do i move widgets around on the 'taskbar'
01:55.01Jahooty?
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01:55.45stdinJahooty: click on the cashew, then you can drag them about
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01:57.28Jahootyhalf of them won't move, it just opens them
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02:01.54Jahootyso when is kde 4.x supposed to be ready for real use?
02:02.10Qrawldid you try 4.2
02:02.15Jahootyno
02:02.19Qrawlyou should
02:02.24Jahootywhen it's out of beta i will
02:02.28Qrawlok
02:02.34QrawlId say 4.2 is the real use one
02:02.37cb400fJahooty: to move widgets in panel .. unlock widgets -> click on cashew.. move the things
02:02.44Jahootyyes i know
02:02.44cb400f.. not that hard
02:02.58Jahootyit is that hard when they arent behaving like you describe
02:03.20Qrawli switched back to KDE with 4.2
02:03.39Jahootysome simply would not move, like the systray widget.  when i try to move it, it acts as if i've clicked the program icon within it and ignores my attempt to move
02:03.54Jahootyit also exits the 'widget edit mode' or whatever it's called
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02:04.36Jahootynow i have a giant 'off' button sitting behind the cashew, hanging half off the screen
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02:05.03Qrawlupgrade to 4.2 beta
02:05.14Jahootywhen it's in the repos
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02:05.21Qrawlwhat distro
02:05.23Jahootysuse
02:05.27Jahooty11.1
02:05.50Qrawldoes that use RPM or Debian
02:05.56Jahootyrpm
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02:10.49PhrkOnLshJahooty: Use the KDE Unstable playground if you must... yast2->software repositories->add->community repositories->check the KDE4 Unstable one.
02:10.55PhrkOnLshI don't recommend it though ;)
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02:11.04PhrkOnLsh4.1.3 is perfectly good atm on 11.0
02:11.16Jahootyno, no it's not
02:11.18Jahootysorry
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02:11.58PhrkOnLshHm, sounds like you should be filing some bugs over at novell/opensuse, then. ;)
02:12.09cb400fno it doesn't sounds like user error
02:12.14cb400fis on openSUSE too
02:12.20PhrkOnLshshrugs
02:13.16Jahootyuser error?  i restarted x server and when i logged back in almost everything in the taskbar had reversed order on it's own
02:13.22Jahootyhow in hell is that my fault?
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02:13.32Qrawlits not
02:13.38QrawlKDE still has bugs
02:13.56Qrawlbut its improving fast
02:14.03Qrawlyoull see when you try 4.2
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02:14.47cb400fthat's a different issue from not being able to move widgets
02:15.06cb400fto reset plasma: 'kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma &'
02:15.50Jahootyi just discovered that my touchpad wont let me drag anymore, which was probably the heart of it
02:16.02PhrkOnLshoh magic :)
02:16.04Jahootycb400f, ctr+shit+alt+backspace
02:16.46Jahootyand cb400f why do i have a giant power button behind the cashew half off the screen?
02:17.03Qrawlthats probably a widget
02:17.23Jahootyi'll take a screenshot
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02:17.50QrawlKDE 4.2 has a nice widget.  you just drag a picture on top of it, and it automatically posts it and gives you the url
02:17.52cb400fJahooty: you obviously screwed up your plasma.. and you need to reset it.. and I just told you how
02:17.59Jahootyand if it is a widget, why is it there?  i didn't put it there, it wasn't there fresh after install, it put itself there
02:18.16Jahootyfine, just to shut you up, i'll do it
02:18.21PhrkOnLshQrawl: Sounds juicy :)
02:18.22cb400fdefault setup has logout+lock widget in panel
02:18.57Jahootyyes, but the default setting does not have an EXTRA GIANT SIZED power button BEHIND the cashew
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02:19.28Qrawllol
02:19.43cb400fwell.. enjoy it, some people don't want help.. I'm off to bed
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02:20.10Jahootyhow is 'you screwed it up, obviously' help?
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02:29.27wenlmorning or evening, every one
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02:30.27Jahootywhat a surprise, cb400f's commands did not help
02:30.29Jahootyjust made things worse
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02:30.51LordvedaIs there a component for Kopete to use Facebook chat with it?
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02:35.50LordvedaIs it possible for korganizer to work with google calendar?
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02:38.29PhrkOnLshLordveda: kopete->not imo
02:38.54PhrkOnLshpidgin plugin's source is available though ;)
02:40.33freeedrich|Lordveda: I think you can integrate google calenders
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02:53.12Lordvedauses Kde 4.1.3 and Fedora 10
02:53.41LordvedaCan I please be told about the possibility of Korganizer to use google calendar?
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03:10.38Psi-JackDoes ksysguard4 still do sensors, or was that take out of it's support (or was it truely ever "in" and not 3rd-party patchings?)
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03:54.11Psi-JackWhat exactly is nepomukservices, and why is it using 80+% CPU time all the time?
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03:55.25randyhey
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04:08.42PhrkOnLshPsi-Jack: It's the semantic desktop!
04:08.46PhrkOnLshI disabled it :P
04:08.53PhrkOnLshTry disabling strigi search daemon
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04:09.41Psi-JackYeah. I just ended up disabling Nepomuk.
04:10.43Psi-JackI /want/ a useful indexing service that works properly and only indexes what I want it to.. Doesn't seem like ven Strigi does what I want.
04:10.43Psi-Jackbeagled is just.. Crap. Pure, Crap.
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04:49.02bryanwhat can i do to get my wireless network working. it did it on the live dvd but now i cant get it
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04:58.23clarkdaI'm restoring my kde install from tape
04:58.46clarkdawhat lib requirement does the desktop backround have?
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05:16.13dunasI'm running Konversation in GNOME, and it keeps using image programs for opening links that are to .jpg, .gif, etc.
05:16.33dunasThe problem is, I need it to open the links in Firefox.
05:16.36dunasCan someone help?
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06:10.17drantindunas: #konversation
06:11.19flocatidunas: right click -> save link
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06:22.05mohan_hi, i am using digiKam 0.10.0-beta6 for KDE 4.1.3
06:22.16mohan_the previous version (i think for kde 3.5) had some options to do batch processing like borders, converting images etc
06:22.20mohan_but, with the recent version, i don't have any thing
06:22.29mohan_any idea, what could be missing?
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06:23.35Jucatoafaik, those features are provided by KIPI Plugins, not built into digikam itself. try installing kipi-plugins for KDE 4 (it's not yet complete though)
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06:26.01mohan_Jucato: i installed kipi plugins too
06:26.53Jucatomohan_: the correct version (for kde4?). and those features might not be included yet in the current version
06:27.08mohan_Jucato: as you said, kipi plugins for KDE 4 are not yet ready it seems!
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06:45.39jnmbkhi, in 4.2 beta2 how do I use my google reader account in Akregator? I added it in settings but nothing happens..
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06:54.03Third3yeHow do I make KDE automatically mount some fuse-ntfs partitions without having to add them to /etc/fstab?
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07:40.19Guest45616hello all
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08:11.13BOBSONATORhey guys, im in kde 4.2, and my desktop effects work, yet my bar isnt transparent, does anyone knw the problem?
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08:15.38Third3yeHey everybody
08:15.54Third3yeI was wondering if anyone here, anyone, had the balls to step up and server Microsoft with a subpeana for stealing ideas?
08:16.09Third3ye:P
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08:25.08shbgood da!
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08:25.57shbanyone here know if it is possible to stack plasma panels? I want to have two pannels at the bottom, but they seem to always overlap.
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08:40.28mohan_shb: i am also looking for the same feature!
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08:45.45neekui've made a mess while installing some rpm update files. now i can't enter kde4 due to "couldn't start kdeinit4, check your installation". i tried updating and reparing the system using suse dvd but none helped. any suggestions? (suse 11.0 and kde 4.0)
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08:48.37farhadhi all
08:48.45Third3yeHey
08:48.56neekusalam farhad! ;)
08:50.00farhadhow can i uninstall akonadi ? i have compiled and installed akonadi from svn-trunk but i cant uninstall it with make uninstall
08:50.08farhadsalam neeku :)
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08:51.29glenerr, kmail from beta2 still has cristmas?
08:51.40glenit says for email dated 25 dec as "today"
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09:13.41Evilaliv3hi all =)
09:13.47Evilaliv3i've a little question
09:13.56Evilaliv3is kdehiddenvisibility a good option for kde?
09:14.07Evilaliv3what does it actual do?
09:14.41farhad_hfi have problems with my fonts in kde 4.2 svn trunk , i'm not sure that its a kde problem , but what can i do? see this : http://imagebin.ca/view/dtUjMf.html
09:15.33thechrisEvilaliv3:   IIRC it enables a specific cflag
09:16.06Evilaliv3IIRC ?
09:16.16Evilaliv3ok but its a good cflag?
09:16.43thechrisit should be.  I think the point was that not all apps compile with it, nor do all compilers support it
09:17.40Evilaliv3mmm thanks ..
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09:24.33DumbleHello world !
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09:37.21Third3yeCan KDE automount MTP devices, i.e the Creative Zen?
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09:42.44rufsketch1hey all, I'm using an svn snapshot of what i'm guessing is a fairly recent build of 4.2
09:43.23rufsketch1I can't seem to use opengl accelerated effects
09:43.46rufsketch1I heard that the latest version checks to see if your card/driver supports compositing
09:43.52rufsketch1but how does it check?
09:44.00rufsketch1and how can I override this check?
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09:45.14farhad_hfrufsketch1: do you have libGL installed ?
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09:46.07rufsketch1farhad_hf: I think so.
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09:46.34rufsketch1farhad_hf: I wouldn't be able to do any opengl stuff without it right?
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09:47.37nadimI added a handler for a file type on my box (I think this iw what started the problem) and since I get a lot of message boxes with "could not find mime type application/octet-stream". In konqueror as soon as I move the mouse and in other applications too. Any idea?
09:47.53farhad_hfrufsketch1: you need dev packages
09:48.17rufsketch1farhad_hf: libgl1-mesa-dev?
09:48.44farhad_hfyes
09:49.44rufsketch1farhad_hf: looks like I have them.  but i'll update to most recent
09:50.13rufsketch1farhad_hf: ok, I updated.  now what?
09:50.41rufsketch1farhad_hf: perhaps it would be wiser to check if my card/driver combo supports compositing?
09:50.48farhad_hfrufsketch1: and check if you have libGL.so in /usr/lib
09:50.56rufsketch1farhad_hf: ok
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09:51.39rufsketch1farhad_hf: yes, it's there
09:53.02farhad_hfrufsketch1: hm..  did you have errors while using cmake ? about opengl?
09:53.21rufsketch1farhad_hf: I installed via debian repos
09:53.39rufsketch1and opengl games work fine
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09:54.27farhad_hfow , i thought that you have compiled from svn trunk :P
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09:54.41farhad_hfsorry rufsketch1 :P
09:54.41rufsketch1farhad_hf: nope
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09:57.10rufsketch1farhad_hf: can you still help?  or does your expertise extend as far as compilation problems?
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09:58.37farhad_hfrufsketch1: sorry . i dont know about kde debian packages , maybe a bug in packages or something in debian ?
09:58.54rufsketch1farhad_hf: it's not a packaging issue
09:59.03rufsketch1i'm pretty sure it's a compatibility issue
09:59.33rufsketch1with the way kde is interacting with my drivers and the way my drivers are interacting with my hardware
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09:59.46rufsketch1i'm using the opensource radeon driver on an x1200
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10:00.34farhad_hfrufsketch1: do you have composite enabled in xorg.conf ?
10:01.17farhad_hf:P i think you have!
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10:04.22rufsketch1farhad_hf: just a sex
10:04.23rufsketch1sec*
10:05.30farhad_hfhehe! :)
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10:06.09rufsketch1farhad_hf: should I also enable the "RENDER" option?
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10:07.22rufsketch1I'm about to try enabling it.  it might glitch out completely, so hang on
10:07.56rufsketch1nope, still decided to rever to xrender
10:08.43farhad_hfrufsketch1: you have to restart kdm for changes be applied .
10:09.15rufsketch1farhad_hf:  ok, i'll brb
10:09.18rufsketch1before that though
10:09.27rufsketch1should I enable the RENDER option in my xorg.conf?
10:09.33rufsketch1or just the compositing option?
10:09.52farhad_hfrufsketch1: i  have compositing ,
10:09.58rufsketch1no render?
10:10.03farhad_hfno
10:10.07rufsketch1ok
10:10.08rufsketch1brb
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10:12.49farhad_hfwb neeku
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10:13.02neekuthanks farhad_hf :)
10:13.02rufsketch1farhad_hf: no luck
10:13.06rufsketch1this is the error I get
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10:13.08rufsketch1Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.
10:13.25rufsketch1and it switches me back to xrender
10:13.31neekuhow can i upgrade to kde 4.1.3 with local rpm files i've downloaded before?
10:13.40rufsketch1and the number of effects I am limited to is ridiculous :(
10:13.48farhad_hfhmm... what did you do rufsketch1?
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10:14.54farhad_hfrufsketch1: its my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f6947e18b
10:15.57rufsketch1farhad_hf: ah!
10:15.58rufsketch1hahaha
10:16.00niachi all - I've accidentally closed the virtual desktop widget.  How can I get it back?
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10:16.03rufsketch1stupid mcedit
10:16.21rufsketch1I enabled compositing but forgot to uncomment the line :-P
10:16.35farhad_hf:)
10:16.48farhad_hfneeku: maybe local repository can help : http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/12/11/local-yum-repository/
10:17.30rufsketch1gonna restart x, brb
10:18.35neekufarhad_hf: well, i've added the dir to the repo list, but when i try updating, it says 'nothing to do'!!!
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10:19.16farhad_hfneeku: did you use createrepo ? in that guide above?
10:19.24rufsketch1farhad_hf: nope, still get the same error :(
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10:19.44neekufarhad_hf: i tried them all using yast, not the terminal
10:19.46neeku:-/
10:21.02rufsketch1farhad_hf: this is my xorg.conf
10:21.04rufsketch1http://pastebin.com/d7726abd0
10:21.16farhad_hfrufsketch1: can you paste the error and xorg.conf?
10:21.21farhad_hfops
10:21.35rufsketch1farhad_hf: the error is the same as last time
10:22.30rufsketch1farhad_hf: it doesn't work regardless of whether RENDER is set to 0 or 1
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10:22.37rufsketch1in case you were wondering
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10:23.18britnetyi suspect its a kde problem because intially the mouse moves but once kde loads it hangs
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10:23.44rufsketch1britnety: can you see the actual desktop?
10:24.01britnetyrufsketch1 yes
10:24.10rufsketch1including your icons and such?
10:24.15britnetyyes
10:24.20rufsketch1what version of kde?
10:24.20britnetyits a live cd
10:24.24farhad_hfrufsketch1: sorry , i dont know whats the problem
10:24.29rufsketch1farhad_hf: :(
10:24.38rufsketch1britnety: kde 4?
10:24.44britnetykubuntu 8.10 so i.e. kde 4
10:24.57rufsketch14.1?  or 4.2 beta?
10:25.05rufsketch1i don't use ubuntu
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10:26.04britnety4.12
10:27.03farhad_hfrufsketch1: i dont have radeon card , and dont know about its driver, but maybe your problem is from the driver,
10:27.51rufsketch1farhad_hf: that's what I'm suspecting.  and was hoping to get cleared up
10:28.03rufsketch1britnety: try a newer version
10:28.19britnetyi downloaded it last night
10:28.52rufsketch1I meant a newer version of kde
10:29.00rufsketch1such as the 4.2 beta
10:29.08rufsketch1when it hangs, can you still move the mouse around?
10:29.27britnetyvery very slowly
10:29.33rufsketch1hmm
10:29.35rufsketch1ok
10:29.45rufsketch1it seems like a probelm with kwinrc
10:29.46britnetykeyboard takes long to respond(10-15s)
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10:30.46rufsketch1in your home directory
10:30.56britnetyok
10:31.02rufsketch1go to /.kde4/share/config/
10:31.06rufsketch1and open kwinrc
10:31.09rufsketch1edit it to say
10:31.36rufsketch1Backend=XRender
10:31.46rufsketch1and GLDirect=false
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10:32.16rufsketch1restart X and see if it works
10:32.24rufsketch1I need to restart X as well
10:32.27rufsketch1so i'll brb
10:32.30britnetyhow do i get a terminal
10:32.55rufsketch1ctrl+alt+f2
10:33.16britnetythanks
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10:43.16BrucevdkI'm a GNOME/Nautiluis guy but I'm trying out Konqueror for a moment to check out its facilities for extensions. Konqueror itself is a little bit overwhelming. How do I change it from using single click to open anything to double click? I don't have kcontrol and apt won't tell me what package it might be in.
10:43.20Brucevdk*Nautilus
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10:43.52pontoBrucevdk: are you using kde4?
10:43.56Brucevdkponto: yes
10:44.08pontoBrucevdk: then I cannot help. I only know KDE 3.
10:44.13Brucevdkponto: oh heh
10:44.50Brucevdkwell to be precise I'm not running KDE4, but this is the KDE4 version of Konqueror.
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10:49.11Brucevdkah the new control center is systemsettings
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10:57.00Brucevdkwhich has no settings for changing to double click
10:58.33SSJ_GZBrucevdk: Same place as KDE3 - in the Mouse section.
10:58.58Reptilewhy do i loose fonts in some applications after installing nvidia driver ?
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10:59.31BrucevdkSSJ_GZ: I just found that on the forums but I don't even have a mouse section, I don't think Ubuntu installs the tool needed for that when you ask for konqueror, systemsettings. So just trying to find what package supplies it right now.
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10:59.53SSJ_GZBrucevdk: Ooh, yuck - good luck!
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11:01.02BrucevdkSSJ_GZ: thanks ;-)
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11:03.44BrucevdkSSJ_GZ: can you in any way find out what the command for the mouse tool is?
11:04.20BrucevdkSSJ_GZ: like looking for it in ps auxwwww :-)
11:04.22SSJ_GZBrucevdk: If it's installed: kcmshell4 mouse
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11:11.57britneyrufsketch1 i managed to make the changes but am unable to restart X
11:12.26rufsketch1britney
11:12.36rufsketch1to restart X, ctrl+alt+F7
11:12.43rufsketch1then ctrl+alt+backspace
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11:13.02britneyrufsketch1 forgot ctrl+alt+F7
11:13.27farhad_hfhi
11:13.38rufsketch1farhad_hf: hi
11:13.47britneyrufsketch1 and under which header should i put the entries(backend  = Xrender and GLDirect = false)
11:13.57farhad_hfhi rufsketch1 :)
11:14.00rufsketch1farhad_hf: I'm now trying to compile a custom kernel to get fglrx working instead of radeon
11:14.29rufsketch1britney: they should already be entered for you, just change the values.  it should be under the first or second header
11:14.59britneyrufsketch1 they arent entered, only some visual effect sentry is there
11:15.03rufsketch1and not "Xrender"
11:15.15rufsketch1it is "XRender"
11:16.04rufsketch1britney: it should be under the [Compositing] header
11:16.14rufsketch1Backend=XRender
11:16.21britneyok thnx
11:16.25rufsketch1is the most important one
11:16.31britneyk
11:16.34rufsketch1make sure capitalization is correct
11:16.44rufsketch1I'm not sure if spacing is important, but can't hurt
11:16.49rufsketch1no spaces!
11:17.40britneykk
11:17.50britneythnxs a bunch will try
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11:46.19kronicwith a dual monitor setup (using twinview and the attached monitor as the primary screen) with krandtray, can you have  a mode which resizes all the contens onto one display?
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12:00.34SJrHey Hey Hey
12:00.43SJrHow are you my friends doing, today tonight?\
12:01.16SJrQuestion I'm using Psi, which is an Jabber client, written in QT 4, it seems that the desktop effects in beta 2, seem to cause it to be VERY slow to resize the windows.
12:01.21SJrAny ideas, my friends?
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12:08.10BrucevdkSSJ_GZ: I ended up just installing all of kde, then changing the setting and the removing kde again
12:08.23BrucevdkSSJ_GZ: couldn't figure out what package supplies that system applet
12:08.46SSJ_GZBrucevdk: That's a pain :/
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12:09.28britneyrufsketch1 doesnt work
12:10.25rufsketch1same problem?
12:10.38rufsketch1britney: desktop still hangs?
12:10.51rufsketch1did you make sure to save the changes before you restarted X?
12:11.35britneyrufsketch1 yes
12:11.35britneyrufsketch1 i made the changes in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
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12:14.03britneyrufsketch1 i gtg k, hopefully later thnx
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12:20.39niacI've accidentally closed the 4 little virtual desktops in the toolbar.  How can I get them back?
12:21.19freeedrich|you removed the pager I guess.
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12:21.30Jucatoniac: click on the cashew/plasma icon or right-click on an empty spot on the panel, select Add Widgets, then add the Pager widget
12:21.34freeedrich|niac: open "Add Widgets" go to "Pager" add it again.
12:21.51freeedrich|pff Jucato :P
12:22.04Jucato:)
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12:22.22niacfreeedrich|, Jucato that's it. tks!
12:22.33niac"Pager" that's what I missed :)
12:25.19niacIs it possible to group similar stuff - like all opened konsoles - in the taskbar?
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12:27.02niacIt was with kde2, but I don't find the way in kde3
12:27.05rufsketch1niac: yes, with the latest kde
12:27.08rufsketch1oh
12:27.10rufsketch1in kde 3
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12:27.14rufsketch1yes, it's possible as well
12:27.28rufsketch1niac: are you just coming into kde3 from kde 2 now?
12:27.33rufsketch1when kde 4 is coming out?
12:27.34rufsketch1lol
12:27.36niacyep :)
12:27.54rufsketch1I suggest making the jump to 4.2 in a month or so
12:27.57rufsketch1but
12:27.59rufsketch1in kde 3
12:28.06rufsketch1right click on the panel
12:28.16rufsketch1and it will give you a bunch of options
12:28.25rufsketch1one of them is to configure the panel
12:28.31rufsketch1and amongst those, is an option to group similar tasks
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12:29.53niacrufsketch1, right click panel settings?
12:31.04Jucato<niac> It was with kde2, but I don't find the way in kde3 <--- huh? O.o
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12:31.09niacback, sorry?.
12:31.12niacsorry.
12:31.17Jucatoniac: are you on KDE 3 or 4?
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12:31.59Jucato"Panel Settings" is a KDE 4 phrase in the right-click menu. if so, grouping tasks is only available in 4.2, to be released next month
12:32.15niackde-config --> KDE: 3.5.10-3.fc10 Fedora
12:32.34Jucatoniac: kde-config will always report  kde3
12:32.42Jucatokde4-config is the one that will report for kde4
12:33.13niacJucato, ok I'm on kde 4 then
12:33.23niac:)
12:33.26Jucato[20:29] <Jucato> "Panel Settings" is a KDE 4 phrase in the right-click menu. if so, grouping tasks is only available in 4.2, to be released next month
12:33.32niacok, tks
12:33.37niacwaiting for 4.2
12:33.39niac:)
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13:12.28manoj_hi
13:14.31manoj_How can I have a search field next to the Location's fied in konqueror?
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13:15.52Jucatomanoj_: install konq-plugins/konqueror-plugins for KDE 4 from your distro
13:16.10manoj_Jucato: I am on kde 3.5
13:16.53Jucatomanoj_: install konq-pluginsfor KDE 3 from your distro
13:17.10manoj_ok
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13:21.36manoj_Jucato: thanks
13:21.46manoj_bye bye
13:21.50Jucatobye
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13:32.59Ace2016_-all i did was try compiz, then switch back to kde
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14:01.38PragmaticAnarchyhi , i'v just instaled kde4.1.3 in a gentoo amd64 system with lastest nvidia-drivers beta and Kwin is crashing on start up. this si the log http://rafb.net/p/gURy0W85.html
14:01.53PragmaticAnarchyand sorry about ma eglish.. it sux
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14:04.15PragmaticAnarchyyes
14:04.36PragmaticAnarchyi get the same result but a slower system
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14:10.08Ace2016_-beta nvidia drivers are great
14:12.01tuxick*cough*
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14:12.40tuxickOption "PixmapCacheSize" "1000000" Option "AllowSHMPixmaps" "0"
14:13.00tuxickthose to finally made my kde slightly faster than an old S3 trio would give
14:13.14tuxickfor a day, 2 max
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14:15.04tuxicki still can't use effects though
14:15.15tuxickkmail would crash my X when those are enabled
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15:03.26peter123hello, do anybody know something about the short cut %y=date, %f=name of datei, %p= numer of page. Aim: 1/12. page one of twelve? You can find it in Kwrite, printing dialog.attributes of header.
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15:04.53frandoHey. Is it possible to assign a shortcut to an entry of the "Actions" menu in Dolphin?
15:05.01frandoRunning 4.2 trunk from SVN
15:05.30frandoI would like to assign the "Preview" action (that opens the previewer plasmoid for the selected file) to the space key
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15:05.46frandoto be able to quickly preview a file by pressing space.. as in osx
15:06.03frandoCan't find it in the shortcuts dialog
15:06.09frandomaybe manually in some config file?
15:06.36pinotreeif it isn't in the shortcut configuration, then it is not available anywhere else
15:07.39frandopinotree: Hm, OK. So it is impossible to assign shortcuts to service menu entry (the stuff in the "actions" menu is service menu, right?)?
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15:08.06pinotreei don't remember offhand how that entry is added
15:08.07frandoSo then maybe a global shortcut that calls a dbus command to open the previewer with the selected file or something?
15:08.11frandoOK.
15:08.54frandoWould be great to have space bar trigger the previewer plasmoid by default in 4.2
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15:09.20frandothat's one of these small neat features I love about os x and which would be amazing to have in kde ... we're *nearly* there
15:09.20pinotree(then people say kde imitates osx...)
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15:09.39frandopinotree: well, than give it another shortcut, I couldn't care lesse
15:09.44frandoas long as it's configurable
15:09.47pinotreewhat about return?
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15:09.57frandoreturn opens the file, doesn't it?
15:10.21frandobut an f key or something will do it as well
15:10.30JucatoIn Konqueror, it can be configured to open in an embedded viewer if possible
15:10.39pinotreeor preview it, depending on the embedding configuration and whether you are browsing files in konq or in dolphin
15:11.01frandoJucato: Right, but I really like this previewer plasmoid a lot.. it's nice and simple and looks just great
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15:11.58frandoI mean, thumbnail previews in dolphin are great already, but to just quickly skim into a pdf file to see if it's the right one, pressing a simple shortcut and having this open the previewer plasmoid with the file would be amazing
15:12.36pinotreewhat is the problem of launching the normal application?
15:12.46frandoand it's nearly there, right clicking the file and clicking actions -> preview this file works absolutley perfectly, all that's missing is the possibilty to assign a shortcut
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15:13.08frandopinotree: takes much longer. if I just want to quickly look at a picture or a pdf, I don't really have to start gwenview or okular
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15:13.31pinotreefrando: question: what do you think the previewer plasmoid does to show you pdf documents?
15:13.39pinotreereply: it opens okular.
15:14.04pinotreethe difference between opening okular directly or though the previewer plasmoid is NULL
15:14.16frandopinotree: it uses the okular kpart, i know. it's still faster for me on my system. also i can close it simply by pushing escape, and it doesn't open a new window, which I like for quickly previewing a file
15:14.47pinotreefrando: dude, the okular part *is* okular, as the okular shell is simply a very thin layer
15:15.08pinotreefrando: and you could trust me in that, given that i am the okular maintainer, so i know how things work there
15:15.11frandopinotree: yeah. it's still faster for me, at least in perception. maybe because no window has to be opened
15:15.43pinotreeperception is just a workaround around untruth :)
15:15.53frandopinotree: true, but still ;)
15:16.06pinotree... still no difference
15:16.16frandoanyway, I don't really want to discuss the merits of the previewer plasmoid here, that has been done several times. the previewer plasmoid is there, is in trunk and works absolutely great. Dolphin integration is on the way with the entry in the actions menu, so having a shortcut here is is IMO a small feature that takes an existing one a little further
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15:32.20Erenhm, akregator4 doesn't save settings
15:32.24Erenhas this issue been fixed?
15:33.30Erenmoreover, when I change KMail sort order, it only applies to that folder only once. When I go to another folder and back, the settings aren't saved
15:33.35Erenit's really annoying :\
15:34.03PhilRodEren: same here with kmail
15:34.29ErenPhilRod: do you face the problem with akregator, too?
15:34.32Erenit uses too much CPU
15:34.44PhilRoddon't use akregator sorry
15:35.29ChemBroEren: do you use ubuntu?
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15:35.35ErenChemBro: no
15:35.40Erenmy distribution is Pardus
15:35.46ChemBrohm
15:35.53flabrhi...has anyone succeded in installing liquid weather under KDE 4.1?
15:36.08ChemBroi experienced the problem with not saving settings only in ubuntu
15:36.38shepherdUm I've added another "activity" by accident with the widget button ( thing that appears to make another desktop.. ,, how do I delete it ? now I have 2 addwidget buttons overlapping
15:36.55ChemBroflabr: this is not possible, unless someone fixes liquid weather for kde 4.1
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15:37.40flabrChemBro: omg...for me, that is the best superkaramba widget...
15:37.45ErenChemBro: I've heard that KConf module has been changed and most of applications haven't ported themselves
15:37.56ErenYakuake4 doesn't save settings, too
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15:38.45Half-LeftA good weather plasmoid http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3811
15:39.24ChemBrothere are so many weather-plasmoids out there, i don't think, liquid weather will be fixed, because of this
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15:39.50EtherNethello people
15:40.07EtherNetdoes anyone know why the  Suspend to RAM and Suspend to DIsk options from the KDE 4.1 menu doesn't work?
15:40.17EtherNetunlike, when I do from the console hibernate-disk it works properly.
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15:41.07Erenhuh.. notifications are really annoying :)
15:41.11ErenI can't hide 'em!
15:41.33Half-LeftOfcourse you can
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15:41.52LinuxMafiahi
15:42.09Erenyep, it can be hidden, but when new noticiation comes, the old ones are shown too
15:42.16Erenthat's what I'm talking about
15:42.22LinuxMafiai add time to kicker and every time i relogin it dissapear
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15:42.56LinuxMafiaany idea
15:44.02Half-LeftEren: Version?
15:44.25ErenKDE: 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2))
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15:53.25minifig904http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Windows/Installation#Status states that a shell replacement will be in KDE-Windows installer, but I can't quite find a timeline for this. What's going on here?
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16:29.28chakieinteresting. when i click on a Konsole shortcut i have in my plasma panel, the konsole gets opened into a more or less random virtual desktop
16:29.43chakiesounds like a small bug
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16:34.39LinuxMafiahi how can i set different images for desktops
16:34.41LinuxMafia?
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16:52.37mraza72hello all
16:52.56mraza72there is a problem I need some help on.
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16:53.31mraza72I want to install my a4tech camera on Fedora 10, how do i do it?
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16:54.28Half-LeftAsk in #fedora
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17:20.09Pedrichi, I am running (gnome-based) Ubuntu 8.10 and some KDE4 apps, how can I configure the appearance/qt style of those apps without installing all of KDE4?
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17:21.20DumblePedric, with qtconfig
17:21.50Pedricnope
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17:22.23Pedrictried qtconfig and qtconfig-qt4, konqueror and the like ignore that
17:23.15Pedricactually, it's just KDE4 apps that use the wrong style, while other QT4 apps like skype respect qtconfig-qt4 settings
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17:28.02PedricDumble, I also tried installing systemsettings, the kcontrol replacement, but it's not showing the styles tab under Appearance
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17:30.30Dumblethere might be something wrong in your installation because this module is provided by systemsettings package itself (in gentoo and in debian)
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17:31.05Half-LeftPedric: GTK apps have never made a attempt to blend in with Qt apps, Qt has with cleanlooks, not sure why it dont work for you
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17:35.05PedricDumble: strange, will check that. http://tmp.dragonriders.de/qt4vsKde.png
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17:35.52PedricHalf-Left: that was not the points, this is about KDE4 apps under Gnome that I can't configure
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17:37.12Half-LeftPedric: Well it would be nice if GTK provided a theme that blended nice with Qt4 apps, but they dont
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17:38.13Half-LeftWhich would solve the issue
17:38.36PedricI don't think you understand the issue I am having
17:39.36Half-LeftI do, I'm just saying you wouldn't have the issue if the above was done
17:40.05Half-LeftYou may have to use gtk-qt4
17:40.21PedricI have installed a nice QT4 style that blends well with my Gnome desktop, but I can't configure the style KDE4 apps use...
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17:41.04wedelergammler_hi
17:41.14knoppixhi
17:41.26wedelergammler_ohhr endlich einer der schreibt
17:41.26knoppixWow lots of Linux users in here
17:41.38knoppixSorry I'm an english type guy
17:41.43wedelergammler_can you speak german
17:41.44Half-LeftSounds like your missing a packages or something if cleanlooks is not in the system settings for KDE4.x
17:41.49knoppixNo
17:41.58knoppixI'm just a dummy in language
17:41.59wedelergammler_hmm.. borring
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17:43.37PedricHalf-Left: It's not that Cleanlooks is not available in in systemsettings (which I am running from Gnome in that screenshot above, I don't have KDE installed in it's full blown glory), it that the entire module to configure the style KDE4 is using is missing
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17:44.11knoppixWindows Vista Rocks!
17:44.56knoppixh ha hah ... heh... :|
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17:46.17knoppixCrazy_pete how are you?
17:46.26crazy_petehi knoppix
17:46.32knoppixHi.
17:46.33crazy_petei am happy how are u?
17:46.40knoppixSure.
17:47.27knoppixHow are things, where you at?
17:47.43knoppixI put out a cheap troll trying to see if anyone would bite, but nobody did.
17:48.00knoppixAnyone here programin Delphi?
17:48.42knoppixWho likes Gnome better than KDE?
17:49.20Half-LeftIt's a KDE support channel, use it like that or dont bother coming in
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17:50.05crazy_petei am afraid i dont know what delphi is
17:50.09knoppixOk, fair enough can anyone direct me to a more bland open chat channel
17:50.27crazy_peteand my largest objection to kde is the fact that some KDE apps use gnome libs :)
17:50.30Half-Left#kde-chat
17:50.48knoppixWhat is wrong with that? A well written DLL or LIB is just that no matter who it is for
17:51.01Half-Leftcrazy_pete: Which ones?
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17:51.21crazy_petewhich apps or which libs?
17:51.28knoppixWhat language is KDE written in C++?
17:51.35Half-Leftwhich gnome libs do you refer to?
17:51.51Half-Leftwhich KDE uses
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17:52.04crazy_peteoh i am not sure tbh, i was surprised to some  dependencies on gnome/gtk when installing some kde stuff
17:52.26charleswfbknoppix: mostly C++ but there are bindings to other languages
17:52.27Half-LeftIt's not true btw so I dont know where you get that idea from
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17:52.42legodude_is there a problem with window management effects and 4.2?
17:53.20crazy_petewell for example konqueror links to glib
17:53.40crazy_peteof course it is debatable whether glib is "gnome" or "glib" :)
17:54.12crazy_peteso yes it IS true, Half-Left and as u were kind enough to point out to knoppix, we could examine for more information in #kde-chat :)
17:54.40Pedricis there a Kubuntu 8.10 user that could pastebin dpkg-query -L systemsettings to me?
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17:55.48Half-Leftcrazy_pete: Go ask GNOME devs if glib is a "GNOME" library then
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17:56.24Half-LeftPedric: Try #ubuntu or #kubuntu
17:56.47crazy_petegnome developers are idiots Half-Left
17:57.01crazy_petebut like i said i am glad to move this to #kde-chat  Half-Left
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17:57.34Half-LeftNot for me
17:57.38Zorixum
17:57.42Zorixglib is not gnome
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17:57.50Zorixits gnu libraries
17:58.01crazy_petenot glibc
17:58.02crazy_peteglib
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17:58.41Half-LeftIndeed, it's like saying GTK is GNOME libs
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17:59.02crazy_petemoving things back on topic here is a support question
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17:59.33crazy_peteis it possible, in konversation, to ignore people in a specific channel but be able to converse with them in OTHER channels?
18:00.03Zorixglib is gnu libraries for gtk which is gnu tool kit.. not gnome
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18:00.17Half-LeftExactly
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18:00.43crazy_peteIt would a good feature for dealing with certain types of people who direct others off topic chat to more appropriate channels but then insist on babbling their own off topic arguments while refusing themselves to move to a more appropriate channel? :)
18:01.38Half-Leftcrazy_pete: Dont try to blame others for your wrong assumtion that glib is a gnome lib
18:02.07crazy_petedont try to get me into an off topic argument Half-Left i believe you are wrong,  but i am not going to discuss it here
18:02.27Zorixif you dont agree then google it and find for yourself
18:02.35Half-LeftYou started it the offtopicness in the first place
18:02.37Zorixsimple as that
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18:15.37cbrwhat does the "Keep window thumbnails: [Only for shown windows|Always|Never]" mean in desktop effects config dialog?
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18:15.51pedepyk so what exactly it strigi and what does it do and what is it for and why does it work hard at reducing the lifespan of my hdd
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18:16.41BtbNDescription:         Fast crawling desktop search engine with Qt4 GUI
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18:17.00danuthaiducwow kde svn is fast
18:17.42danuthaiducat first glance, the defects i see are color picker and applications menu turn back
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18:18.38danuthaiducotherwise, it feels awesome
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18:20.04danuthaiducalso, "offer shutdown options" doesn't actually do that
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18:21.03Half-LeftIt does
18:21.18Half-LeftIf you untick it it just offers logout
18:21.47danuthaiducbut it's ticked
18:21.51danuthaiducand it only shows logout
18:21.54danuthaiduci didn't do anything
18:22.28Half-LeftYour using the "Leave" option on the right click desktop?
18:22.33danuthaiducno
18:22.44danuthaiducon the big blue square K menu
18:22.50Half-LeftWell thats how it works to
18:23.07danuthaiducit doesn't work with the desktop one either
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18:23.12danuthaiducit's not working
18:23.26Half-LeftDoes here
18:23.44danuthaiduci'm using 4.1.86
18:23.48Half-LeftLeave, gives a list of shutdown options
18:24.02danuthaiducno
18:24.05danuthaiduconly the default one
18:24.57Half-LeftWell it's working as expected here
18:25.08danuthaiducwhat version do you have?
18:25.25Half-LeftVersion 4.1.86 (KDE 4.1.86 (KDE 4.2 >= 20081221))
18:25.40danuthaiducare you using Arch linux by any chance?
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18:25.55Half-LeftExactly yes but I compile from trunk
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18:26.02Half-Leftactually*
18:26.12danuthaiducyou compiled it yourself?
18:26.16Half-Leftyes
18:26.22danuthaiduci got it from some repo
18:26.34danuthaiduci got x86_64
18:26.39Half-LeftSame here
18:26.45danuthaiducweird..
18:27.15danuthaiducbrb
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18:29.33piquadratHi! Is Google Gadget support for plasma still planned for KDE 4.2? I'm on the Kubuntu Beta2 packages and am wondering if there's a packaging problem or if support for Google Gadgets was dropped for the 4.2 line
18:30.01pinotreepackaging issue
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18:30.11pinotree(it is there, actively developed)
18:30.13Half-Leftpiquadrat: Yes 4.2 will(does) support it and intergrates it
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18:31.08piquadratCool. Well, I'll have to go poke the Kubuntu packagers, then :)
18:34.11danuthaiduchmm plasma crashes are regular
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18:36.40ChemBroplasma crashes with the use of the comic-plasmoid for me, but that's the only one
18:37.30danuthaiducquicklaunch crashed for me
18:37.40danuthaiducI think I double-clicked
18:37.51Half-LeftQt version?
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18:38.15danuthaiducsorry for being noob, but how do I find that out?
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18:39.50Half-LeftYou can quary your package manager about it
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18:44.39danuthaiducaha finally i have qt3 3.3.8-9
18:45.02Half-LeftYou should use a newer version, thats why you have crashes
18:45.12danuthaiducok, thanks
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18:48.47Half-Left4.4.3 or Qt-copy
18:49.02danuthaiduchmm
18:49.11danuthaiduci was using qt-copy but didn't notice
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18:51.04farhad_hfhi all
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18:51.25danuthaiducfor some reason enter doesn't work in the alt-f2 box
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18:59.32freeedrich|danuthaiduc: not when your cursor is still in the input box. use tabulator to switch
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19:00.25Kame2freeedrich|: it works, if you don't write the full command. so 'amaro<enter>' works, but 'amarok<enter>' not
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19:03.35danuthaiducyay another bug to report
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19:05.48luca_bdanuthaiduc: actually if you cancel one letter then input it again, it works
19:06.01luca_bI  mean, delete
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19:07.03danuthaiducok, thanks for the workarounds
19:07.55luca_balso, subsequent runs of the same command seem to work fine
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19:15.38AL13NI've just installed mandriva 2009.0 (with kde 4.1) and when sending an email in kmail, kmail crashes (the mail is not sent), the smtp is not using any authentication of ssl options
19:15.51AL13Nany idea where to look? how to fix?
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19:34.03downhill_aseigo; Nice work on 4.2 b2 :) Had the chance to install Kubuntu and check it out. Pro. cheers to you and the rest of the folks who are making it happen ^_^
19:34.12aseigodownhill_: =)
19:34.16downhill_<insert standard bugs clause here>
19:34.44downhill_still impressing me every single update :D keep up the great work!
19:35.24Half-LeftYes, soon we will convert all the Ubuntu people, muuuhahahaha
19:35.31downhill_haha
19:36.05SoopamanLuva84why is there no "copy link location" when i right click on a link in konqy?
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19:37.46downhill_aseigo; Could you possibly clarify why Plasma on Windows is unsupported? If you have the time...
19:37.55downhill_(to explain)
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19:38.48aseigodownhill_: the plasma shell is unsupported. it may be supported in 4.3, but it's completely experimental at the moment
19:38.56downhill_oooh, I see.
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19:39.20downhill_it's just a "too soon" type of thing. not a "we won't ever help with the bugs" type thing.
19:39.23flabrhi there...just wonder if liquid weather works with KDE 4.1?
19:39.33aseigodownhill_: we don't have enough people working on the desktop shell part of plasma on windows to be able to effectively support it right now... libplasma is a different matter, but the desktop shell replacement.. wlel, not yet
19:39.35flabri mean...liquid weather 15.0
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19:39.45downhill_ok ^_^
19:39.51downhill_that makes perfect sense, aseigo, thank you :)
19:41.17downhill_a funny thing happened today - my friend saw Ravirdv's YouTube video of KDE4 w/ plasma and all running on Windows 7 pre-beta and thought that it was Microsoft's new desktop shell haha
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19:42.12S-i-Ahi
19:42.33S-i-Ahow can save the Konsole text in .text file?
19:43.37crazy_petescrollback -> save output
19:45.25S-i-Acrazy_pete: but i will automatic save like the logs her
19:45.40crazy_petei dont know  try it
19:45.45crazy_peteexperiment a bit S-i-A
19:46.14crazy_petethere is also an edit -> copy input menu choice in konsole
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19:51.45BactaAnyone considering a suit against Microsoft would be in a good position right now after looking at the screenshots of Windows 7 ;)
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19:57.43tuxickheh, konq crashed second time this evening
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20:01.48danuthaiducwtf
20:01.56allaun?
20:01.59danuthaiducknotify is using 67% of cpu
20:02.08allaunlower its nice level?
20:02.24allauni mean raise sorry
20:02.31allaunlower gives it more priortity :p
20:02.37danuthaiducit still uses a lot
20:02.39danuthaiducnow 87
20:02.58danuthaiduci am tempted to kill it
20:04.08danuthaiduci killed it and nothing else malfunctioned
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20:05.18AL13Nanyone else seen of heard of a problem with kmail and sending mail via SMTP?
20:05.25AL13Nkde 4.1
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20:16.34AL13NChemBro: no attachments, no SMTP auth, nothing
20:16.41AL13Njust simple test
20:18.29sharp15does anyone have the sparkfun blog's rss feed working in akregator 1.2.9 (kde 3.5.9) ?  i keep getting a message saying the feed doesn't exist but i'm looking at the feed in firefox.
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20:22.19sharp15i'm using gentoo if that is helpful information. and the exact error message is "Feed not found from http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/rss.php."
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20:29.18flabrhi there....everytime I open Dolphin...it starts maximized Full Screen....how can I change that?
20:29.35downhill_flabr; are you using KDE 4.2 beta 2?
20:30.06flabrkde4.1
20:31.03downhill_hmm, well, you can set a kwin rule to always open it with a certain geometry...
20:31.23flabri am running compiz...
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20:31.33downhill_not sure then
20:31.39downhill_maybe someone else knows :)
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20:32.04flabri right clicked on the toolbar...on Dolphin...and there u can choose do disable Full Screen...but everytime i re open Dolphin...full screen is enabled
20:32.16Half-Leftflabr: compiz is a window manager so it has it's own rules
20:32.49tearsofashThat reminds me, I can never remember where to go change the window manager.
20:32.53tearsofashgets looking
20:33.02flabrHalf-Left: right...but I experience just Dolphin having this issue...for example...firefox does not open in Full Screen mode
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20:33.07jazkasystem settings -> default applications
20:33.07downhill_tearsofash; systemsettings > Advanced tab > session management
20:33.27Half-Leftflabr: yer we dton support compiz here
20:33.31Half-Leftdont*
20:34.17tearsofashI recently made the jump KDE4
20:34.20tearsofashIt's pretty cool
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20:34.36downhill_the "best" desktop I know of :D
20:34.47tearsofashI'm trying to get my g/f to make the switch from 3.5
20:34.56tearsofashBut I think we're having RAM issues
20:35.30sharp15wow.  the channel is generally quiet today.  must be the holiday.
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20:36.04flabrbut unfortunately...my favorite superkaramba applet... liquid weather...does not work under 4.1
20:36.08ttyXis there any lst.fm plugin fir juk?
20:36.16ttyXlast*
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20:36.28tearsofashGawr -- it doesn't seem to be in session manager
20:36.52tearsofashI'm pretty sure I have different ones installed
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20:37.22downhill_tearsofash; I *think* it only supports compiz and kwin, but I'm not sure.
20:37.28downhill_don't quote me on that
20:37.54tearsofashI'm also using opensuse, so things might be in a strange spot
20:38.23tearsofashsearches
20:41.09tearsofashFound it
20:41.19tearsofashIt's under "Default Applications"
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20:42.45downhill_really?
20:42.49downhill_wow...
20:43.37sharp15anyone have an idea what i should do about my akregator error or should i ask the gentoo folks?
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20:48.44PhrkOnLshWhy does desktop sphere not "work?" It renders a cube with spherical top thingies
20:49.05PhrkOnLshsharp15: What's the problem, now?
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20:50.12DaphkoHi
20:50.13Daphkojemand da
20:50.34Daphkokann ich Ornderhintergrundfarbe von weiss auf irgendeine andere farbe umstellen1?
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20:54.01shepherdI love kde4 all this time I thought "wow no icons on desktop, this sucks" but now I am forced to use folders.. kde4 has turned me into such an organized person -.-
20:54.18downhill_hahaha
20:54.19danuthaiduchaha
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20:54.49sharp15PhrkOnLsh: not sure.  just that my akregator install is refusing to acknowledge some rss feeds.
20:54.58downhill_amazing what a great design and some elbow grease can accomplish
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20:55.37PhrkOnLshDaphko: #kde-de (that is german, right?
20:55.39PhrkOnLsh)
20:56.03Daphkook
20:56.22Daphkoi just changed the colors of window dekoration
20:56.36Daphkobut when i go to my home dir
20:57.07Daphkothen the background is white, so i asked how can i change the color
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20:57.26Daphkoi dont find where i can change this
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21:00.16PhrkOnLshDaphko: It's on the systemsettings page, where you config the colors, under colors, it's in the view dropdown
21:00.44DaphkoPhrkOnLsh: can you help me ?
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21:01.06PhrkOnLshDaphko: Isn't that where it is? "normal background"
21:02.14Daphkoi´m not sure
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21:04.34Daphkothe color of the normal background is gray but the background of my dir is white, so i dont know where the option is
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21:08.04serenityre
21:08.16serenitywhere can i find pino's latest wallpaper for 4.2?
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21:10.00pinotreeserenity: ??
21:10.16SSJ_GZserenity: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/wallpapers/Air/contents/images/
21:10.24SSJ_GZ(and it's "pinheiro ;))
21:10.28SSJ_GZ+"
21:10.29danuthaiducnice!
21:10.37serenityok, sry about that
21:10.48SSJ_GZpinotree: You know, maybe you should make a wallpaper :)
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21:11.36danuthaiduci'd make something abstract and as unintrusive as possible
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21:11.58danuthaiduca plain blue pixel!
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21:29.55exothermcWe just installed unbutu latest version and are running kde, but kcontrol doesn't seem to exist.
21:29.58exothermcany ideas?
21:30.33MoDaXexothermc: afaik, the latest kubuntu is kde4 based
21:30.52exothermcMoDaX:  yup
21:31.03MoDaXkcontrol is kde3 thingy
21:31.06exothermcMoDaX: hence the fact we are running kde
21:31.12exothermcohhh
21:31.18PhrkOnLshexothermc: try systemsettings ;)
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21:31.37exothermcPhrkOnLsh:  That is some pretty dumbed down settings.
21:31.49exothermcPhrkOnLsh:   Where do you go to find more useful settings?
21:32.02hallownameexothermc: nah, some settings just moved or simplified...
21:32.03PhrkOnLshexothermc: It's all there. It's designed to be more user friendly
21:32.17PhrkOnLshno more hierarchial menu of hell...
21:32.40exothermcPhrkOnLsh: So where would I look for detailed configuration of my network interfaces.
21:33.09PhrkOnLshUbuntu's configuration crap?
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21:33.26exothermcPhrkOnLsh: For instance I can't seem to find any place that gives a hint of editing the IP, much less trying to bridge an interface.
21:34.38PhrkOnLshyeah, that wouldn't have been in kcontrol in the first place
21:34.47PhrkOnLshIt's in whatever tool KUbuntu uses...
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21:35.16arezeysystemsettings?
21:35.37PhrkOnLshexothermc: ok, let me google that for you
21:35.39PhrkOnLshhttp://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html#sect-interentandnetwork
21:36.52exothermcahh I didn't know it was ubuntu specific.  I guess there isn't a standard kde configuration interface.
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21:38.07PhrkOnLshexothermc: SuSE uses Yast, I didn't think that Kubuntu would integrate EVERYTHING into systemsettings (as it should I guess, i've just not seen a distro really 'do' it ;) )
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21:55.02hallownamewow, massive freenode fail... never seen that before...
21:55.02hallownameanyone here need help?
21:55.02hallownamestate your problems! :P
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21:55.04downhill_hallowname; I need money.
21:55.04exothermchallowname: looking at migrating from kde 3.5 to 4.1 specifically with konsole.
21:55.04downhill_oh and my sister needs to pick up her cats now that she's moved in.
21:55.17exothermcis the suggested method to use konsole from 3.5 with 4.1?
21:55.20downhill_oh, right, KDE problems, sorry. *whistles*
21:55.41hallownamedownhill_: me to, feel free to send some :P
21:55.53hallownameexothermc: for a stable machine? or are you a programmer?
21:56.23exothermchallowname:  sysadmin.  I can read some code, but I wouldn't say I'm a programmer.
21:56.39downhill_high-fives exothermc
21:56.58hallownameexothermc: hmm, i don't know about a 4.1 migration then, it's not very stable, but it is usable
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21:57.38exothermchallowname:  So about konsole........
21:57.45hallownameexothermc: what's the konsole issue?
21:58.02spaceninjahow can I install kolourpaint without installing kde, I'm using blackbox, and I don't want the whole kde thing when I'm enjoying blackbox :)
21:58.04downhill_exothermc; the new konsole has a few less features, but not a whole lot you'll probably miss.
21:58.08hallownameexothermc: i used 4.1 konsole, and it worked fine, just like the 4.2 and trunk konsoles...
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21:58.14LnxSlckhow are kdm themes handled in kde4?
21:58.20exothermchallowname: all my sessions from 3.5.  Can I get things into bookmarks or profiles.
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21:58.32hallownameexothermc: really i didn't notice any changes in konsole... still does everything i need
21:58.39hallownameexothermc: konsole has sessions in 4.1 too i think
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21:59.00hallownameexothermc: they shouldn't be completely backward-incompatible...
21:59.28LnxSlckhallowname, one can have saved sessions on konsole? ip, user and pass?
21:59.39exothermchallowname: ya, that has changed.
21:59.54hallownameexothermc: ahh, really? i hadn't noticed :P
22:00.21exothermchttp://www.ibcl.at/ibclweb/ibclweb?page=ShowBLogArticle&service=external&sp=l173
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22:03.54PhrkOnLshIf anything I think konsole dose more...
22:04.04PhrkOnLshLike highlighting links, that's seriously really cool.
22:04.09exothermcPhrkOnLsh:  more than?
22:04.21PhrkOnLshkde4's konsole as compared to kde3's sorry
22:04.26PhrkOnLshmore than xterm? ;)
22:04.30exothermclol
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22:06.35linexI change my desktop type tp FolderView old-style. Now the context menu does not have Appearance Setting. How do I check back to Desktop style? Anyone ?
22:07.55hallownamelinex: isn't it isn't under systemsettings somewhere?
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22:09.32dexhi all can you tell me about something good file browser other than dolphin and konqueror?
22:09.55linexhallowname: let me check.
22:10.02Kame2it isn't
22:10.06Kame2linex
22:10.21hallownamedex: qt4ish? i dunno, checked qt-apps.org yet?
22:10.29Kame2like i said in #gentoo-kde: you find in in the cashew
22:10.53hallownameKame2: ingenius
22:10.55linexKame2: you did answered me ? sorry I didn't see.
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22:11.16Kame2np ;)
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22:12.02linexKame2: I don't see it in cashew either
22:12.15hallownamelinex: you have a problem then ;)
22:12.20linexKame2: there is Delete this Folder View
22:12.30Kame2oO
22:12.31linexKame2: is that the one ?
22:12.33Kame2no
22:12.38Kame2ther should be
22:12.40Kame2let me check
22:13.12linexI have 5 items in cashew
22:14.01linexAdd Widgets ,  Zoom Out,   Lock Widgets, Folder View Setting and  Remove this Folder View.
22:14.24Kame2i have 'Add widgets' 'Zoom out' 'Lock Widgets' and 'Appearance Settings'
22:14.31linexhallowname: huge problem
22:14.48Kame2i should switch to folderview...
22:15.00linexKame2: thats because you have Desktop style set
22:15.05linexyes
22:15.13Kame2but
22:15.16linexswitch and see for yourself
22:15.16Kame2it stays
22:15.28Kame2i ge folderview settings, but all other buttons stay
22:15.33Kame2+t
22:15.37linexyou changed to Folder View ?
22:15.41Kame2yes
22:15.56linexand still Appearance Setting there ?
22:16.00Kame2sure
22:16.12Kame2and i know it is there since some more time
22:16.12linexurgh
22:16.26Kame2maybe not with beta 1, but i think so
22:16.45Kame2it's in beta 2 for sure
22:17.02linexI'm in 4.2 beta1
22:17.08linex.85
22:17.12Kame2thats beta 2
22:17.12linex4.1.85
22:17.23linexsorry beta 2
22:17.26linexI'm using beta2
22:17.38linexKame2: is there another way ?
22:17.57linexis there a command line ?
22:18.05Kame2i don't think so
22:18.30linexso I'm screwed ?
22:18.42linexit can't be I'm screwed
22:18.57linexI'm screwed for this ?
22:19.03Kame2give me some time
22:19.05Kame2i test
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22:19.51Dumbleis KDE 4.2 stable enough for everyday use ?
22:19.56LnxSlckyes
22:22.32Kame24.1.85 is starting up. lets see what hapens there
22:23.06Kame2something strange... splash shows only the first icon... nothing is happening :-/
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22:25.42Dumblehurt it
22:25.44Kame2brb
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22:27.41dsafdais there a way to have the panel clock on one row only? I want even the date, but it set on two row, I want it on one, as on kde3, is there a way? thanks
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22:29.04Dumblecode it ? or maybe with a bigger panel ?
22:29.21Dumbleit is shown in 1 row when on the desktop
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22:32.56Kame2linex: http://imagebin.ca/view/5wLgVzNR.html
22:33.02Kame2its in german, but it is there
22:33.10Kame2gentoo, kde 4.1.85
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22:34.05Kame2but i also get the settings on right click
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22:35.54linexKame2: I'm on gentoo and 4.1.85 too
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22:36.52Kame2strange
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22:40.38dsafdaDumble: maybe I can code it... but I'm running a kde4 suse 11.1 stable repo, so I don't know, if I can set it by config files
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22:40.59dsafdaanyway it was "normal" on the good old kde4, so maybe it should be implemented even on kde4
22:41.41dsafdaon the good old kde3, the clock panel was on 2 row, if the panel was large, it was on one row on smaller panel...
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22:41.57linexKame2: surely, there is a config file somewhere I can change manually
22:42.40Kame2.kde4.2/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
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22:43.35zcepgup and pgdn works fine in Kate, but it does nothing on Konsole.. home and end also does not work (those are actually on keypad)
22:43.40Kame2girlfriend wants to sleep so i have to go. good night
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22:44.57Kame2linex: maybe look, if not all packages are 4.1.85. if all are up to date, i don't know, why you don't get the 'normal' options
22:45.29linexKame2: maybe I did not install something
22:45.38hallownamelinex: have you tried reading the menu 'very carefully' ;)
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22:45.45hallownameruns and hides
22:46.01Kame2if you have folderview, you have installed all you need ^^
22:46.05Kame2night
22:46.14arlenikFor some reason when I click on a *.exe file it doesn't start.  This happened after I installed QtCreator.  anyone know a fix for it?
22:46.17linexcaught hallowname and gave him a punch
22:47.07linexarezey: .exe ? are you joking ?
22:47.17arezeyhm?
22:47.20linexarezey: are you using wine ?
22:47.33arezeysure, but i dunno about arlenik.
22:47.33drantin#kde-windows ?
22:47.34arlenikno, i'm being serious. and no, i'm not using wine
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22:47.38hallownamearezey: right click > open with... > wine
22:47.49hallownameoops
22:47.51arezey!= arlenik
22:47.58hallownamearezey: sry
22:48.03arezeyit's nothing.
22:48.06arlenikthese are just regular *.exe files that have worked before. Now I get a "Open with" dialog in Konqueror when I try to run them
22:48.10hallownamearlenik: you need wine to run .exe files
22:48.32hallownamearlenik: .exe's don't work in unix-land mate, u trollin?
22:48.41arlenikI mean just reqular executable files
22:48.46arlenikI'm in linux
22:48.51arezeythen you need wine.
22:49.01hallownamearlenik: like the 'chmod +x' type of executable?
22:49.03linexoh wrong person
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22:49.20hallownamearezey: you have bad name luck today
22:49.22arlenikwith *.exe i mean linux executables. not windows
22:49.32arezeyhallowname, it seems so.
22:49.51linexarlenik: then just say a binary file , don't say *.exe file
22:49.57hallownamearlenik: try to open one with bash
22:50.28arlenikit work with bash, but it doesn't work in konqueror when i left click on it
22:50.41arlenikI get a "open with" dialog instead
22:50.48linexExcuse him guys, a new convert from MS.
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22:54.22arlenikany idea why I'm getting a "open with" dialog instead of it just running ??
22:54.37linexhow do I restart plasma ?
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22:56.19hallownamelinex: killall plasma, followed by 'plasma &'
22:56.20gkiagialinex: "kquitapp plasma && plasma"
22:56.32hallownamegkiagia: beacha :P
22:56.37gkiagiahehe
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22:56.55gkiagiakillall will cause current settings to be lost, btw
22:57.53hallownamegkiagia: hmm, never noticed...
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22:58.35gkiagiaarlenik: if the file doesn't run, it is either not a valid executable or it doesn't have executable permissions
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23:00.32Mirrakorin the KDE4-launcher I've two entries for netbean, one working and one nt working (outdated, how can I remove it?)
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23:01.00gkiagiahallowname: fyi, killall just kills the application. kquitapp will cause it to terminate normally. plasma saves it's settings when it quits, so if you kill it, you don't give it a chance to save it's settings normally :)
23:01.38gkiagiaMirrakor: kmenuedit ?
23:01.51Mirrakorthat thing still exists?
23:01.53hallownamegkiagia: i kno, ima plasmoid programmer... but when i killall, my .kde doesn't change, so plasma reads it fine upon next start, never had the problem your talking about...
23:02.05gkiagiaMirrakor: yep
23:02.48gkiagiahallowname: I am talking about settings that were changed in this plasma session and are not written to disk yet
23:03.06gkiagiaof course previous settings are kept :)
23:03.22gkiagiawell, that was the case in 4.1, maybe it has changed now...
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23:04.25Neo_Good Evening together x)
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23:05.30AlNaharhelp
23:05.35AlNaharanyone use knx?
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23:15.14Mirrakorgkiagia: is there a search function?
23:15.53gkiagiaI don't think so
23:18.09GraveDiggeris there a kde infrared application for kde4 like irkick for 3?
23:18.27pinotreekdelirc is under work, but not ready yet
23:18.39GraveDiggerokay, thank you pinotree
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23:29.57glenduplicate bookmarks menu in beta2 is something like normal?
23:30.41SSJ_GZglen: Yes - there is a patch floating around but it hasn't been applied yet.
23:31.31glengood it's addressed, bad that it's not applied in svn
23:31.51gleni recall also similar duplicate menu stuff from kwrite/kate (don't recall exactly which) from kde3 times
23:32.05glenbut unstickiness of "hide menubar"?
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23:32.44glenlike i disable "show menu bar" and it becames back when i switch konsole tabs
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23:41.08cryogenfxhello. I'm trying to setup kaddressbook with freeldap.org, and i'm running into some troubles. and the fields vary wildly from the screenshots of mozilla/outlook/evolution and the others in the help doc in freeldap.org. antone able to help me?
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23:41.37habarnamglen, I confirm your problem, also I didn't notice since when, but Konsole's menu doesn't have accelerators anymore (KDE svn here)
23:42.08cryogenfxi'm using 4.2beta2 btw
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