| 00:00.10 | soa2ii | Hi there. Where do you set up special sound settings like 5.1 sound with phonon? (kde 4.1.3) |
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| 00:09.56 | junkDawgie | i remember seeing in systemsettings/Sound that there was a checkbox for advanced settings and when i used it i got many more selections on audio output.... might look there, soa2ii... 'course it may need support from alsa/oss components |
| 00:10.21 | soa2ii | Let#'s see |
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| 00:11.27 | junkDawgie | sorry it is "Advanced Devices" |
| 00:11.39 | junkDawgie | pre-alzheimers here |
| 00:11.40 | soa2ii | junkDawgie: AFAIS there is just "advanced devices" so I could use my snd card a duplicate of it and the digital output. |
| 00:11.47 | soa2ii | Yeah. |
| 00:13.04 | junkDawgie | i show selections for standard PCM capture/playback and Multichannel capture/playback..... which i would think is at part of what you are trying to do |
| 00:13.22 | junkDawgie | its a Audigy2 card i have |
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| 00:14.44 | soa2ii | Hm... |
| 00:14.51 | soa2ii | Could you show me a creenshot? |
| 00:16.36 | junkDawgie | i can do a ksnap but i'll have to see if i can get it to http://rafb.net/paste |
| 00:22.11 | soa2ii | The funny thing is: I use kaffeine and amarok too wich should not use phonon at all... there the 5.1 sound is broken too :/ |
| 00:27.50 | soa2ii | Lets see then |
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| 00:29.22 | junkDawgie | seems like amarok does use either phonon or yaupsomething |
| 00:29.46 | junkDawgie | there is a choice depending on your backend engine |
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| 00:30.08 | junkDawgie | haven't thought about this in a while, my apologies |
| 00:30.32 | Half-Left | Amarok2 uses phonon yes |
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| 00:31.29 | junkDawgie | i'm thinking of the plugin that ports it to xine or gstreamer in 1.4.... i'm not as adventurous as Halfie |
| 00:31.31 | junkDawgie | :) |
| 00:31.45 | Half-Left | :p |
| 00:33.39 | soa2ii | junkDawgie: Hm... have you secified those devices yourself? |
| 00:33.46 | soa2ii | I just have: |
| 00:34.04 | soa2ii | HDA Nvidia |
| 00:34.10 | soa2ii | HDA Nvidia #1 |
| 00:34.16 | soa2ii | and the digital one |
| 00:34.53 | junkDawgie | actually yes, the one at the top.. the "prefered" one i just moved up there as a test... the second selection is the original |
| 00:35.15 | soa2ii | How do you do that? |
| 00:35.56 | junkDawgie | you highlight the entry and use the buttons on the bottom right to move it up or down |
| 00:37.06 | junkDawgie | sounds like the card is not detected properly to me.. a hal/distro issue |
| 00:37.14 | soa2ii | Hmpf |
| 00:37.23 | junkDawgie | kde doesn't know it's there |
| 00:37.27 | soa2ii | With KDE3 everything was fine :P |
| 00:38.06 | junkDawgie | that doesn't sound good |
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| 00:38.53 | junkDawgie | onboard nvidia sound ? |
| 00:39.20 | soa2ii | Yes |
| 00:39.37 | soa2ii | Asus A8N-E SLI I think (not quite sure yet) |
| 00:40.30 | soa2ii | Earlier I just set direct alsa in kaffeine and amarok with 51 sound and everything was fine |
| 00:40.54 | junkDawgie | i have an asus too... P4G8X deluxe |
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| 00:41.26 | junkDawgie | but.. i dumped the realtec onboard... |
| 00:41.44 | junkDawgie | was? |
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| 00:42.03 | soa2ii | Hm |
| 00:42.28 | soa2ii | If I'm honest: I have no clue whats wrong now... |
| 00:42.42 | soa2ii | kaffeine and amarok should work like before... don't they?! |
| 00:43.03 | junkDawgie | yes unless something crashed |
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| 01:18.52 | scsiraider | did something change between 4.2 and trunk regarding desktop effects |
| 01:19.08 | scsiraider | i cant seem to enabled them on trunk |
| 01:19.12 | scsiraider | on 4.2 it worked find |
| 01:19.13 | scsiraider | fine |
| 01:19.40 | cb400f | 4.2 is trunk |
| 01:20.21 | scsiraider | i mean latest svn versus the 4.1.80 beta thats out |
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| 01:23.09 | scsiraider | i know dri is working |
| 01:23.09 | scsiraider | $ glxinfo | grep renderer |
| 01:23.09 | scsiraider | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL |
| 01:23.31 | scsiraider | do I need anything special in my xorg.conf |
| 01:25.58 | aseigo | between beta 1 and now? shouldn't be |
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| 01:51.09 | murrant | scsiraider: I had this issue, glx worked, desktop effects didn't. turned out AIGLX was disabled... |
| 01:52.57 | stoned | jeu |
| 01:52.59 | stoned | hey |
| 01:53.06 | stoned | aseigo, ! :) |
| 01:53.10 | stoned | long time no see buddy |
| 01:53.12 | stoned | how are you doing? |
| 01:53.40 | stoned | qupada, pingo |
| 01:53.50 | stoned | and guys what happened to the new zealand lady |
| 01:53.54 | stoned | conllliath? |
| 01:53.55 | stoned | I think |
| 01:54.01 | stoned | canlliath |
| 01:54.02 | stoned | I think |
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| 01:55.18 | scsiraider | murrant: actually i just had to add that dri section |
| 01:55.30 | scsiraider | when one where u set the perms to 0666 |
| 01:55.40 | scsiraider | im surprised it worked before with out that |
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| 02:02.09 | obsoleteman | hi all, any idea about this cmake error (trunk build) http://pastebin.com/m7e97b060 |
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| 02:04.22 | Hum | it says there's a duplicate in the file. |
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| 02:30.30 | william__ | firstimer here ... |
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| 03:17.04 | scsiraider | i cant get any bookmarks to show up in the toolbar |
| 03:17.23 | scsiraider | never mind |
| 03:17.25 | scsiraider | it finally showed up |
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| 03:51.46 | PhrkOnLsh | I NKDE3 I had system config cache sheck disabled... how can I enable it in KDE4..? |
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| 03:58.12 | macjason0607 | hey guys |
| 03:58.14 | macjason0607 | for some reason my panel keep crashing on kde 4.1 |
| 03:59.10 | macjason0607 | whenever i remove something to the trash it crashes |
| 03:59.17 | macjason0607 | is this because i have the trash can on the panel ? |
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| 04:15.41 | rishad | hi is there a way to reset the color scheme in kde 4.1 through a config file? |
| 04:16.25 | rishad | anyone? |
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| 04:21.34 | aseigo | rishad: the desktop colour scheme? i think it's in kdeglobas |
| 04:21.36 | aseigo | er, kdeglobals |
| 04:21.54 | aseigo | macjason0607: that's been fixed in later releases. |
| 04:22.13 | aseigo | KazieKama: clicking on the "Configure" button to do that? |
| 04:22.36 | KazieKama | Yepyep |
| 04:23.06 | aseigo | KazieKama: ok, mouse over, let the little handle "slide out" then click on the configure button there |
| 04:23.16 | rishad | aseigo: is there a way i can overwrite oxygen's config into this file? I downloaded a scheme from kde-look and now system settings keeps crashing. |
| 04:23.17 | aseigo | KazieKama: there's a bug in Qt that causes that crash; it's been fixed upsream |
| 04:23.25 | aseigo | KazieKama: but is really, really annoying until that fix percolates dow |
| 04:23.25 | aseigo | n |
| 04:23.37 | KazieKama | ahhh gotcha ty |
| 04:23.44 | aseigo | rishad: you shoudl be able to just delete the colour scheme entries in that file. open it up in a text editor |
| 04:23.51 | aseigo | KazieKama: np .. sorry for the hassle |
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| 04:24.08 | trav | Hi |
| 04:24.20 | trav | Kubuntu 8.10 Trying to connect to a Windows PTPP VPN. Download pppdaemon, tried using kvpnc without much luck. Anyone have any experiences with this? |
| 04:24.28 | trav | downloaded* |
| 04:24.59 | rishad | aseigo: ok thanks. love your blog. ;) |
| 04:25.01 | KazieKama | aseigo: hey no problem, thanks for the help dude it works now, thats all that matters |
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| 04:27.53 | kavoor | Hi!, How do I configure the position of the notification window of Kopete, KDE 4.1.3 |
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| 05:46.52 | smbuser | how is kde4 |
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| 05:48.33 | snakeface | how do i change the taskbar? i would like 2 rows. there are way to many icons in the tray to fit in one, and also i usually have a lot of windows. it seems it is locked on the bottom of the screen as well? |
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| 05:49.15 | snakeface | kde 4.1 |
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| 06:12.43 | aseigo | er, milk |
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| 07:06.29 | naught101 | in settings it says available temperatures include "acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature", and that's enabled |
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| 08:07.51 | arrenlex | Is it possible to have new tabs in konsole start in the same folder as the previous tab? |
| 08:08.07 | annma | I have that as default |
| 08:08.18 | arrenlex | annma: How? |
| 08:08.19 | annma | konsole KDE 4.2 |
| 08:08.23 | annma | default |
| 08:08.31 | annma | there's no "how" in default |
| 08:08.34 | arrenlex | annma: Ahh, I'm not there yet. :( Did it just appear in that version? |
| 08:08.44 | annma | what is your kde version then? |
| 08:08.52 | arrenlex | annma: 3.5. |
| 08:09.03 | annma | look in settings then |
| 08:09.06 | arrenlex | I did. |
| 08:09.14 | annma | if there's no setting then it's not possible in 3.5 |
| 08:09.24 | arrenlex | Alright. Thank you for the advice. |
| 08:09.45 | annma | it's default in kde4 though |
| 08:10.04 | pusling | yeah. a crappy default |
| 08:10.16 | annma | yeah ;) I don't like it either |
| 08:10.23 | arrenlex | You people are crazy. It's so useful. |
| 08:10.28 | annma | really |
| 08:10.37 | arrenlex | really. |
| 08:10.45 | annma | I never use same locatin in konsole |
| 08:10.53 | annma | when do you use that arrenlex |
| 08:11.21 | pusling | especially when I in one tab is in /usr/something, and writes ssh remotemachine and does things there, needs a new tab afor finding a file somewhere and it startttts up in /usr/something again. |
| 08:11.24 | annma | for ex I have 3 konsole tabs right now, all with different paths |
| 08:11.42 | annma | arrenlex: what is your use case? |
| 08:12.51 | arrenlex | annma: Usually when I open a new tab, I want to keep doing stuff in the same folder I was working in. If I am editing a file in nano, for example the apache config, I often want to go back to that folder and look at some of the files already there. |
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| 08:13.12 | arrenlex | annma: It also happens that I want to go to a different directory, so when I open a new tab, I cd to wherever I want to go. |
| 08:13.25 | annma | is it because you use a terminal-based editor then |
| 08:13.27 | arrenlex | annma: It is excruciatingly rare that I want to open a new tab where my final destination is my home. |
| 08:13.38 | pusling | also use terminal based editors |
| 08:13.48 | annma | I am a kde devel and I never work in the same folder with my tabs |
| 08:14.00 | Jucato | the only time I want to have a "open this in the same diretory" is if I'm splitting views in yakuake |
| 08:14.01 | annma | I use Kate though as editor fortunately |
| 08:14.14 | annma | otherwise I would have hundreds of konsole tabs |
| 08:14.28 | Jucato | (unfortunately, that "feature" isn't present in the konsolepart, enough for yakuake to make use of) |
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| 08:21.45 | _RedGhost_ | anma: you can use vi with mulitple files in one konsole tab :) |
| 08:21.54 | _RedGhost_ | well, vim at least |
| 08:22.35 | arrenlex | Hm. I can't maximize gnome-terminal. It bounces up to full-screen and then back down to leave about 5 pixels on the right edge and like 120 on the bottom. Does this happen for anyone else? #debian seemed to indicate it was a kde problem. |
| 08:23.16 | Jucato | gnome-terminal a kde problem? |
| 08:24.14 | arrenlex | Jucato: gnome-terminal is quite possibly not responsible for how it behaves when maximized. It may well be a kwin thing. |
| 08:24.36 | annma | if it happens only to this gnome thing it's not a kwin thing |
| 08:24.36 | Jucato | ah well, you never mentioned you were using it in kde :) |
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| 08:24.57 | Jucato | you sure it's kwin that's running andnot something like compiz? |
| 08:25.01 | Jucato | "and not" |
| 08:25.04 | starscalling | so what's the best smoothest implementation of the absolute latest kde4 in which distro? |
| 08:25.09 | arrenlex | Jucato: Yes, I am. |
| 08:25.16 | starscalling | bringing a multimedia focus to the front |
| 08:25.34 | annma | starscalling: ask in a general linux channel and browse distro sites |
| 08:25.38 | Jucato | starscalling: that one that works for you and gives you what you want/need |
| 08:25.46 | arrenlex | annma: Often, pidgin will stop flashing its taskbar button when I receive messages. That problem doesn't exist in kopete -- it's still a kwin\kicker thing. |
| 08:25.55 | annma | is it |
| 08:26.14 | annma | 3.5.10 is the 11th release for 3.5 |
| 08:26.23 | arrenlex | annma: It is. A while ago I dug into it extensively. Whatever was responding to notifications was failing to detect one of the flags properly. |
| 08:26.25 | annma | so thereare no big bugs left |
| 08:26.33 | arrenlex | annma: There was a kde bug about it, but of course it never saw any action. |
| 08:26.34 | annma | arrenlex: distro? |
| 08:26.41 | annma | of course? |
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| 08:27.07 | arrenlex | annma: Debian lenny, kde 3.5.10, pidgin 2.4.3. This has been a problem in pidgin since the days of gaim, probably before gaim 1.5. |
| 08:27.28 | annma | a problem in pidgin or in kwin? |
| 08:27.49 | annma | maybe you should run gnome if you use only gnome apps and have problem with kde desktop |
| 08:27.54 | arrenlex | annma: It is not a pidgin problem. It is a problem with the way kwin or kicker react to the way pidgin sets its window flags. Let me try and find the bug, it has details. |
| 08:28.10 | annma | why do yuo choose kde as your desktop if I may ask? |
| 08:28.35 | arrenlex | annma: I love kde. :) I can configure everything, it runs very well for me, and I wouldn't change to gnome for anything short of a catastrophe. |
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| 08:28.56 | arrenlex | annma: Of course, I don't go to the kde help channel to rant about how awesome it is, I go here when I need help on something. So you don't see that side of it. |
| 08:29.01 | annma | so amend the bug report and vote for it |
| 08:29.22 | arrenlex | annma: I believe I have done so already. |
| 08:29.28 | annma | OK then |
| 08:29.34 | annma | did other people also do so? |
| 08:29.44 | starscalling | ffs |
| 08:30.08 | starscalling | how tough is it to just answer a question with your opinion rather than bashing the fact or motive of the question itself? |
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| 08:30.19 | annma | I build kde from source starscalling |
| 08:30.22 | arrenlex | annma: Here is the bug, found it in my subscriptions ... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123408 |
| 08:30.27 | starscalling | i've used and browsed many distros but there are far more than ive used |
| 08:30.35 | annma | starscalling: also we don't want distro wars here |
| 08:30.41 | starscalling | thus me being curious as to peoples experiences |
| 08:30.52 | annma | starscalling: every use will tell you HIS distro is the best surely |
| 08:31.00 | annma | logically |
| 08:31.03 | starscalling | neither do i, however stating that i happen to prefer debian based distros isnt a bad thing surely |
| 08:31.11 | Mescalito^ | i want a distro war! |
| 08:31.14 | annma | bah |
| 08:31.19 | starscalling | exactly bah |
| 08:31.21 | annma | I don't use a deb based distro |
| 08:31.24 | starscalling | the point lacks merit. |
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| 08:31.38 | starscalling | and i'm not saying that i do prefer them, however that would merely be an example of free thought. |
| 08:31.43 | starscalling | ~_~ |
| 08:31.44 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 08:31.46 | Mescalito^ | arguing anything is better than anything else lacks any merit |
| 08:32.05 | Jucato | this channel isn't exactly for "free thought". it's a user support channel of KDE issues. |
| 08:32.10 | annma | arrenlex: was not confirmed by anyone else |
| 08:32.11 | starscalling | Mescalito^ just looking for a smooth integration of something as recent as possible |
| 08:32.21 | starscalling | Jucato exactly. |
| 08:32.22 | annma | arrenlex: go to your distro channel and make people reproduce please |
| 08:32.25 | starscalling | where better to ask ~_~ |
| 08:32.40 | arrenlex | annma: It was not reported by me, so there are at least two different people with this same problem. |
| 08:32.46 | annma | as recent as possible is KDE 4.1.3 for stable starscalling |
| 08:32.48 | Mescalito^ | i want smooth integration so i use kde HEAD |
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| 08:33.00 | Mescalito^ | it makes things more adventurous |
| 08:33.16 | Mescalito^ | like i was really happy when kopete stopped forgetting all of my accounts and making me re-enter them each time it loaded |
| 08:33.42 | Jucato | starscalling: considering you have your own criteria for what is "the best" (like <starscalling> bringing a multimedia focus to the front), why not try to see or ask what each distro (that has KDE 4 available) offers in that area |
| 08:33.43 | starscalling | how broken are the betas? |
| 08:33.49 | annma | head is for testing, not running |
| 08:33.49 | Jucato | of course in their resprective channels |
| 08:34.06 | annma | is the beta, only 1 beta so far starscalling |
| 08:34.08 | Mescalito^ | annma: i've been running it for a year now, works fine for me |
| 08:34.11 | starscalling | Jucato feel free to ask several hundred distros one at a time yourself. |
| 08:34.13 | annma | Mescalito^: LOL |
| 08:34.26 | starscalling | personally i'd rather see what some of the ppl who actually support the project tend to use |
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| 08:34.36 | Mescalito^ | kde needs people like me, who raise a million bugs each month |
| 08:34.36 | annma | depends on what you "run" Mescalito^ |
| 08:34.48 | Jucato | starscalling: not all distros have KDE 4. that narrows it down. and I'm not the one searching |
| 08:34.51 | annma | starscalling: KDE developers use all distros |
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| 08:35.05 | annma | you find everything in the same user proportions |
| 08:35.05 | starscalling | Mescalito^ what distro do you use? |
| 08:35.16 | annma | he builds KDE from svn starscalling |
| 08:35.26 | annma | so he does nto use his KDE's distro |
| 08:35.27 | Mescalito^ | gentoo, but i don't use the kde ebuilds, i use a self-modified version of the scripts from the kde 4 build page |
| 08:35.30 | starscalling | so perhaps a source based distro is best ? |
| 08:35.31 | Jucato | in any case, your question is more prone to starting a debate than getting qualitative answers |
| 08:35.34 | starscalling | oic |
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| 08:35.48 | Jucato | if you like soure based distros, why not |
| 08:35.56 | starscalling | Mescalito^ now that's interesting.. are there ebuilds for the 4.2 beta? |
| 08:35.57 | Jucato | in the end, it all depends on *you* |
| 08:36.01 | _RedGhost_ | Jucato: a debate? nah, just ye old flame war :) |
| 08:36.23 | annma | ebuilds for 4.2 are for advanced users |
| 08:36.26 | Jucato | _RedGhost_: flames I can extinguish rather quickly. debates are more annoying |
| 08:36.32 | Mescalito^ | starscalling: there are ebuilds that pull the code right out of svn head and build, you can specify the revisino if you want to override HEAD, to choose the kde 4.2 alpha |
| 08:36.34 | Cyrushmh | why I always use KDE must be have bug |
| 08:36.44 | Jucato | unstable definitely don't fall under your "smoothest" criteria |
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| 08:37.26 | starscalling | Mescalito^ does one have to run the full bleeding edge version of gentoo to have bleeding edge defaults of kde4? |
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| 08:37.34 | starscalling | other than manual builds or w/e of course |
| 08:37.43 | starscalling | hm |
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| 08:37.49 | Mescalito^ | starscalling: no you can use the non-bleeding edge version |
| 08:38.07 | Mescalito^ | with gentoo you can nearly always select to run bleeding edge versions of particular packages on a non-bleeding edge install |
| 08:38.20 | starscalling | ok coo |
| 08:38.21 | Mescalito^ | you just have to put some package names and versions if a particular config file |
| 08:38.25 | starscalling | i'll look into that then |
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| 08:39.00 | Mescalito^ | it's fine to use a manual build if you install to a set prefix though anyway |
| 08:39.06 | Mescalito^ | it's easy to clean up since it's contained in one directory |
| 08:39.16 | Mescalito^ | as long as you trust cmake not to put everythign in the wrong place |
| 08:39.37 | annma | as long as you prefix cmake nicely |
| 08:39.39 | annma | then |
| 08:39.45 | annma | cmake does what you tell it |
| 08:39.54 | Mescalito^ | i'm a fan of cmake |
| 08:40.18 | annma | so you know you only have to tell it what to do and it'll do it |
| 08:41.21 | Mescalito^ | running svn head used to be quite painful, but for about 6 months it's been great |
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| 08:41.31 | Mescalito^ | i guess that's a reflection on the stabilisation of the project in general |
| 08:43.53 | annma | hmmm |
| 08:44.05 | annma | nice you find it usable |
| 08:44.25 | annma | as a devel I still find it "usable" |
| 08:44.32 | annma | as a devel I still do nOT find it "usable" |
| 08:44.45 | annma | I mean if I was a user |
| 08:45.01 | starscalling | heh |
| 08:45.19 | starscalling | i've basically checked out of my linux life for a few months |
| 08:45.26 | starscalling | been unemployed and high |
| 08:45.28 | starscalling | ;D |
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| 08:48.48 | arrenlex | Yeah, gnome-terminal resizes fine if I run metacity. Looks like kwin strikes again. :( |
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| 08:49.07 | annma | not "strikes again" |
| 08:49.12 | annma | as this is 3.5 |
| 08:49.25 | Zarin | ? |
| 08:49.26 | annma | try a live CD with kde4 and see |
| 08:49.53 | annma | Zarin: 3.5 and pidgin/gaim thing |
| 08:50.01 | Zarin | What about Pidgin? |
| 08:50.16 | annma | Zarin: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123408 |
| 08:50.30 | annma | arrenlex is talking about that one |
| 08:50.51 | Zarin | Works fine for me |
| 08:51.12 | Zarin | Stops flashing after I view a message |
| 08:51.16 | Zarin | On 3.5 |
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| 08:52.02 | annma | he said there are 2 with the same problem... |
| 08:52.21 | arrenlex | Zarin: Actually, reading that bug carefully, it is a different issue. I haven't experienced that in a long time. The issue I have now is that it will stop notifying me every once in a while. |
| 08:52.43 | annma | so amend the bug report and close it and open a new one |
| 08:52.53 | annma | every once in a while? |
| 08:53.00 | arrenlex | Zarin: After 10 or 20 minutes of conversation, the taskbar stops flashing, and in chat mode the focus line stays in one place. |
| 08:53.25 | Zarin | That last bit sounds like an app bug |
| 08:53.28 | arrenlex | annma: Yes, both of these bugs occur every once in a while. I guess, after about 10 or 20 minutes of conversation. |
| 08:53.42 | annma | you sounded like it was really an annoying bug |
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| 08:53.43 | Zarin | I've never left Pidgin demanding attention for that long though so I dunno... |
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| 08:54.01 | arrenlex | annma: This bug actually resolves itself after a while, although I haven't been able to establish the circumstances under which it starts working again. |
| 08:54.29 | arrenlex | Zarin: No, no... pidgin is minimized, someone says something, I open it and reply, and so on. After about 10 minutes of this, when they say things, pidgin no longer flashes. |
| 08:54.39 | Zarin | Oh |
| 08:54.52 | arrenlex | Zarin: So I have taken to keeping it open on my second monitor and keeping an eye on it when this happens, but this is hardly a solution... :( |
| 08:55.18 | Zarin | I think that's happened to me a few times with Pidgin, both on Linux and Windows :P |
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| 08:55.38 | arrenlex | Zarin: It may be a pidgin problem, I don't know. Maybe this is all fixed in the 4 series, though... I need to test it there first, before I complain about it. |
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| 08:58.18 | annma | OK so it's solved |
| 08:59.22 | arrenlex | annma: It may be. I don't know how it came up, I didn't have any intention of talking about it. I was just wondering about konsole new tab paths, and then why gnome-term didn't resize. :) Pidgin is a non-issue. |
| 08:59.40 | annma | so I can close the bug report? |
| 09:00.11 | arrenlex | annma: Yes, you can close that bug report. |
| 09:00.16 | annma | excellent |
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| 09:08.47 | Illusioneer | Ok, stupid question but before you say it yes i googled it. In konqueror (kde4) what happened to the Info View? |
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| 09:10.12 | Illusioneer | I checked to make sure all the standard plugins and such are installed but it's not there. Also I don't see any mention of it (or it's removal in version 4.x) |
| 09:11.16 | Mescalito^ | kopete! |
| 09:11.53 | Jucato | Illusioneer: Konqueror now only has 3 file views since it uses Dolphin for file rendering: Icon, Details, Column |
| 09:12.43 | Jucato | I'm not clear on the difference between Info List and Detailed List |
| 09:12.48 | Illusioneer | Jucato: yes I tried Dolphin, even it doesn't have the nice Info View |
| 09:13.14 | Illusioneer | Jucato: info view would show file type specific details, so you could sort a MP3 by length or artist name |
| 09:13.17 | Mescalito^ | detailed list is different man |
| 09:13.31 | Illusioneer | very useful for sorting large directories with one type of file |
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| 09:14.27 | Jucato | I see... |
| 09:14.49 | Jucato | No then. I'm not sure what plans there are for that kind of (meta)data |
| 09:15.08 | Illusioneer | It would have made sense if it was put into Dolphin, but it appears to have been removed and forgotten |
| 09:15.20 | Illusioneer | I find it hard to imagine I was the only person who noticed this |
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| 09:15.55 | _CitizenKane_ | what do you put in ~/.kde/Autostart to make a program start automatically? |
| 09:16.22 | Jucato | _CitizenKane_: anything, from a symlink to a app shortcut (.desktop) to a shell script |
| 09:16.35 | Jucato | if you're in KDE 4, there's a GUI to do that in System Settings |
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| 09:17.13 | Jucato | Illusioneer: "removed" presumes it was there in the first place. Dolphin was a start from scratch, so things like that would have to be added to it in time |
| 09:17.39 | Jucato | (and since Konqueror uses dolphinpart for file view rendering, then it inherits that as well) |
| 09:17.52 | _CitizenKane_ | Jucato: cool! thanks |
| 09:17.53 | Illusioneer | Jucato: point taken. still rather annoying |
| 09:17.55 | Jucato | please file a bug/wish or check if there's one filed already |
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| 09:19.49 | tin | Jucato: but since dolphin has become the default file manager, any feature disparity between it and konq from 3.5 is a loss from the file manager |
| 09:21.16 | tin | that said, i do like dolphin in 4.x, though konq in 4.x is in rough shape it seems |
| 09:21.41 | Mescalito^ | i'll load it |
| 09:21.50 | Jucato | tin: yes and no. KDE 4 is not KDE 3.6,so there's no absolute sense of continuity (nor any promise of compatibility, source code wise or whatever) |
| 09:22.05 | Jucato | it's more like "not yet added" rather than "removed" |
| 09:22.16 | Jucato | but yes, it does look like it's removed |
| 09:23.15 | Mescalito^ | okay that was painful |
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| 10:07.32 | iomari | ok I give up. Where the hell did they hide where to enter your root password to administer personal settings in kde4? |
| 10:08.26 | gkiagia | in fact nobody implemented this :( |
| 10:08.38 | gkiagia | you need to start systemsettings as root |
| 10:08.56 | Jucato | it was "removed" (since that term is used so widely) pending security fixes and integration with policykit |
| 10:09.00 | Jucato | kdesu systemsettings |
| 10:09.21 | Jucato | or to be more exact: `kde4-config --path libexec`/kdesu systemsettings |
| 10:09.35 | Jucato | `kde4-config --path libexec`kdesu systemsettings |
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| 10:38.56 | SlimG | How do I make KMail (1.10.1) fetch my mail from the IMAP-server instantly using IMAP_IDLE, instead of me having to click "check mail" manually, or setup intervalcheck? |
| 10:39.36 | thiago | change the source code of KMail |
| 10:39.50 | thiago | implement the feature |
| 10:40.59 | SlimG | thiago: How... does it really lack support for this IMAP Idle?... |
| 10:41.28 | SlimG | got instantly depressed |
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| 10:41.57 | thiago | SlimG: never got implemented |
| 10:42.15 | thiago | and it doesn't match the design |
| 10:42.27 | lenzoid | I just fucked up my directories in konqueror (3), they're now opened by dolphin.... whats the cmd for open in konqueror in the same window and tab? |
| 10:42.44 | thiago | command? |
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| 10:44.01 | lenzoid | yeah, or maybe I check with file settings |
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| 10:45.20 | SlimG | thiago: Not even in KDE4 ? |
| 10:45.31 | SlimG | design-wise |
| 10:45.38 | thiago | SlimG: with akonadi, yes |
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| 10:48.36 | SlimG | thiago: When will Akonadi be release as stable? and will KMail work with Akonadi when it's released? |
| 10:48.58 | thiago | SlimG: akonadi is already released as stable |
| 10:49.03 | thiago | KMail is not entirely ported to it yet |
| 10:49.08 | thiago | KDE 4.3 maybe then |
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| 10:51.06 | SlimG | thiago: mkay, Do you know if kontact will remain in KDE, or if it'll be scrapped in the future? |
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| 10:51.28 | tin | anyone using the netbook desktop theme? |
| 10:51.46 | tin | try hiding the titlebar on maximized programs |
| 10:52.07 | tin | kind of turns the whole desktop into a tabbed window |
| 10:52.52 | SlimG | Does anyone know of a nice lightweight ubuntu-based distro with kde-desktop for a Asus Eee PC (1000H)? |
| 10:52.55 | tin | is going to make a foray into kwin hacking to implement a "hide title bar for maximized windows" option |
| 10:53.59 | Jucato | tin: how about using the Fullscreen option |
| 10:54.17 | lenzoid | how can I bring konqueror back to default behaviour with directories (don't want them to be opened with dolphin)? :( |
| 10:54.19 | tin | option for what? |
| 10:54.33 | Jucato | tin: Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> Fullscreen |
| 10:54.39 | Jucato | kwin |
| 10:54.40 | SlimG | Also: Can anyone recommend a kde mailclient to replace kmail? |
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| 10:55.36 | Jucato | SlimG: Kontact will of course remain. Akonadi is just a storage implementation. you can try asking in #kontact about details about IMAP support |
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| 10:56.37 | Jucato | lenzoid: KDE 3? Konqueror Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> inode group -> directory entry, put Konqueror at the top |
| 10:56.51 | Jucato | (or just remove D3lphin if it's KDE 3. it's not worth it) |
| 10:57.06 | tin | Jucato: nah, i still want to see the tray and launcher |
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| 10:59.02 | tin | i just noticed, with the whole default panel at the top of the screen, and with most windows maximized most of the time, i had redundancy with the taskbar and titlebar so close |
| 10:59.09 | tin | and saying the same thing |
| 10:59.29 | Jucato | tin: Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> No Border |
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| 10:59.41 | tin | so i told kwin to leave the border (and titlebar) off my most used apps |
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| 10:59.44 | lenzoid | ahh there! thx Jucato |
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| 11:00.49 | Jucato | tin: I'm not sure, but maybe it's possible to create a window rule to hide borders for all maximized windows. but if you're just using that setting for a specific app, you can make the window rule for that app only |
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| 11:01.39 | tin | http://tin.hopto.org/misc/screen.png |
| 11:02.13 | tin | Jucato: there aren't any conditionals on the window rules besides type and class and such |
| 11:02.31 | tin | but i've been wanting a coding project |
| 11:02.39 | Jucato | #kwin might be of help |
| 11:02.40 | tin | so i'll check out the kwin source |
| 11:02.44 | tin | heyo |
| 11:03.11 | Jucato | anyway, the feature (no titlebar) is already there. you just need to find a way to make a rule for it :) |
| 11:03.32 | Jucato | and with that, I'm gone! |
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| 11:40.47 | _CitizenKane_ | what is the proper name for the "cashew" in plasma? |
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| 11:43.52 | ronino | Hi |
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| 11:45.29 | ronino | I got 4.1.3 running on Gentoo/amd64. I have the latest 64bit flash installed, but Konq somehow happens to only display flash stuff for the first time I enter a website. Then sometimes even a reload can't bring back the flash part, leaving just white space. Anyone with the same problem and/or a possible solution? |
| 11:46.16 | freeedrich | _CitizenKane_: Cashew |
| 11:46.16 | Gentle_ | I've seen anything from bean to plum |
| 11:46.16 | ronino | e.g. on youtube I get to see the first video, then clicking on to another youtube page, I don't get the video displayed |
| 11:47.38 | Gentle_ | ronino: all I can say is that it's known that konqueror on gentoo amd64 only displays flash on first site load right after starting up a new konqueror. Nobody to my knowledge tried if that's a gentoo problem or an amd64 problem or a konqueror problem |
| 11:48.19 | soa2ii | Does anyone here knows how common distros like kubuntu or suse fix the problem that konqueror is so slowly in displaying websites? Does they all ship a local dns cache or smth like that? |
| 11:49.11 | ronino | Gentle_: I see. Do you have a quick link to some bug report or forum entry or something? |
| 11:49.34 | Gentle_ | not off hand, should be in gentoo bugzilla though |
| 11:52.01 | soa2ii | ronino: Does your konqueror is that slow too? I'm on gentoo too and just updated to 4.1.3 also. |
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| 11:53.18 | ronino | soa2ii: in case of flash or slow in general? |
| 11:54.29 | soa2ii | ronino: General. It's impossible to work with it. Simple websites like heise.de need > 15s to get displayed and then it's often missing the css infos for example and everything is crap then :/ |
| 11:54.43 | soa2ii | atm I just can work with firefox |
| 11:56.22 | soa2ii | Do you have installed a local dns cache or smth like that? |
| 11:56.44 | ronino | soa2ii: no it's not that slow |
| 11:57.02 | soa2ii | Do you just use plain konqueror? |
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| 11:57.11 | soa2ii | without proxy, dns smth like that? |
| 11:57.15 | ronino | soa2ii: no dns cache, but I wish I had one because I think mostly my sometimes slowly loading web page result from slow DNS |
| 11:57.28 | soa2ii | weird. |
| 11:57.34 | soa2ii | What is your router like? |
| 11:57.38 | ronino | yeah, i got a direct connection, o proxy or something |
| 11:58.15 | ronino | I got a D-Link DL-524 |
| 11:59.22 | soa2ii | Weird... mine is an avm fritz box |
| 11:59.39 | soa2ii | Here Konqueror is not usable... |
| 11:59.46 | ronino | soa2ii: Firefox is okay in case of speed? |
| 11:59.50 | soa2ii | Yes |
| 11:59.53 | soa2ii | opera too |
| 12:00.00 | soa2ii | evewrything else too |
| 12:00.03 | soa2ii | even kmail |
| 12:01.30 | ronino | soa2ii: maybe you could try with a clean konq start, means with removed config files? |
| 12:01.46 | ronino | Gent |
| 12:01.47 | soa2ii | ronino: I think much cleaner than that is not possible... |
| 12:01.57 | ronino | Gentle_: This is the bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176540 |
| 12:02.06 | soa2ii | haven't configured anything and kde 4.1.3 is just installed yesterday |
| 12:02.18 | ronino | soa2ii: you never know what went wrong ;-) |
| 12:02.25 | soa2ii | ronino: Yeah... |
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| 12:07.26 | freeedrich | google maps still don't appear to work in konqueror trunk :( |
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| 12:12.40 | Rasi | for some strange reason copy and paste in dolphin is broken for me |
| 12:12.46 | Rasi | i rightclick -> copy |
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| 12:12.53 | Rasi | but on rightclick paste it is greyed out |
| 12:13.01 | Rasi | i can drag'n drop just fine |
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| 12:19.38 | [pinky] | hello, with command should i put if i want to use KDE with startx? |
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| 12:20.38 | freeedrich | someone knows the state of k3b-4? is it slightly useable by now? |
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| 12:25.33 | Rasi | freeedrich: when i tried 2 weeks back, it still did not burn any cd |
| 12:26.03 | freeedrich | Rasi: umm. pretty bad. do you know of any other qt4 based cd burner? |
| 12:26.17 | Rasi | thats easy.. there is none |
| 12:26.35 | freeedrich | you sure? |
| 12:26.40 | Rasi | pretty much |
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| 12:27.37 | freeedrich | that's bad :/ |
| 12:27.54 | freeedrich | maybe some other tool with only few gtk deps? |
| 12:28.07 | Rasi | its strange.. linux has a really good base (cdrecord/etc...) but nearly no good frontend |
| 12:28.47 | freeedrich | well.. I could live with a command line tool.. |
| 12:29.00 | GNU\colossus | use cdrskin from the libburnia project |
| 12:29.01 | freeedrich | but I'll need to install a frontend for a friend of mine |
| 12:29.02 | Rasi | bashburn is kinda nice |
| 12:29.13 | freeedrich | colo :) |
| 12:29.13 | Rasi | http://code.google.com/p/recorder/ |
| 12:29.15 | Rasi | and this one |
| 12:29.30 | Rasi | but i had no luck setting burning speed for dvd's with any of them |
| 12:29.37 | Rasi | ONLY k3b was able to do it |
| 12:30.58 | freeedrich | I really fail to see why there aren't any improvements made in k3b.. I mean.. it looks *ready*.. just doesn't burn :/ |
| 12:31.17 | Rasi | freeedrich: because sebastian is busy with plasma i guess |
| 12:31.29 | freeedrich | Plasma? |
| 12:31.34 | Richlv | freeedrich, what about kde3-k3b ? |
| 12:31.49 | freeedrich | I rather thought nepomuk and his new born child :) |
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| 12:32.11 | freeedrich | RichiH: no qt3/kdelibs3 installed - and no point in doing so for just one app |
| 12:32.14 | Rasi | freeedrich: yea, you are right |
| 12:33.10 | Rasi | brb |
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| 12:36.23 | freeedrich | GNU\colossus: lol - Döner mit Scharf :) |
| 12:36.36 | GNU\colossus | ;) |
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| 12:54.39 | Salze | Hi. Is it possible to add a 3G/UMTS/Bluetooth connection to knetworkmanager? |
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| 13:02.03 | arussel | in kde4, when I push the cursor to the border of the screen I see all open applciation. What is the keybing for it , |
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| 13:02.42 | freeedrich | arussel: check the desktop effects settings. |
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| 13:03.02 | freeedrich | In "All Effects" you can set it for "Present windows" |
| 13:03.08 | freeedrich | That's the thing you want. |
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| 13:06.21 | arussel | freeedrich: thanks found it. (I was looking in keyboard & mouse) |
| 13:06.48 | freeedrich | np |
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| 13:46.32 | cannon | hey guys, whats new in 4.2? |
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| 13:54.30 | darkwizzard | hello.I compiled kde4 from svn |
| 13:54.36 | darkwizzard | and my problems is |
| 13:54.49 | darkwizzard | that no kde4 application can access the internet |
| 13:54.52 | darkwizzard | except kopete kde4 |
| 13:54.57 | darkwizzard | gethotnew stuff doesn't work |
| 13:55.03 | darkwizzard | weather plasmoid can't get information |
| 13:55.07 | darkwizzard | amarok doesn't display lyrics |
| 13:55.14 | darkwizzard | and krusader kde4 can't connect to ftp |
| 13:55.16 | darkwizzard | what gives ? |
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| 13:56.01 | darkwizzard | I recompilled kdenetwork using the latest kde libs |
| 13:56.35 | esperegu | anyone knows a howto or something on how to use svn in the kde desktop environment (not on shell) |
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| 13:58.46 | freeedrich | esperegu: give kdesvn a try |
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| 13:59.03 | esperegu | freeedrich: that I use now. |
| 13:59.21 | freeedrich | but really. you gotta learn to use the command line |
| 13:59.29 | freeedrich | At least for svn. |
| 13:59.33 | esperegu | freeedrich: but before it had actions in konqueror to commit and so. |
| 13:59.49 | esperegu | freeedrich: I can use it command line but don't like it commandline =) |
| 14:00.02 | ilm | kdesvn ? |
| 14:00.07 | freeedrich | It's just so more efficient :) |
| 14:00.19 | esperegu | u think so? |
| 14:00.36 | esperegu | I prefer right clicking anh selecting commit or something |
| 14:00.48 | esperegu | much better that typyng |
| 14:00.54 | esperegu | but that's my opinion |
| 14:00.56 | ilm | http://kdesvn.alwins-world.de/ |
| 14:01.09 | freeedrich | Well.. if you don't need to fiddle with many file much.. |
| 14:01.17 | ilm | i use it, it's nice enough. might try rapidsvn too |
| 14:01.30 | esperegu | ilm: I use kdesvn now. |
| 14:01.50 | esperegu | but how do you import a dir into a repos? |
| 14:02.18 | esperegu | (on kde3 I had actions in konqueror) |
| 14:03.16 | ilm | i only used kdesvn in kde3 |
| 14:03.27 | ilm | but for more advanced actions i recommend cmd-line svn too |
| 14:03.48 | esperegu | ilm: I don't see any actions in kde4 ?? |
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| 14:06.36 | ilm | esperegu: <ilm> i only used kdesvn in kde3, sorry. if you want to do other stuff than just update and commit i suggest command line |
| 14:06.47 | esperegu | k thx |
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| 14:12.22 | |O-Zone| | hi all |
| 14:12.31 | |O-Zone| | i have problems with Konqueror |
| 14:12.38 | |O-Zone| | on Kde 4.1.3 |
| 14:12.49 | annma | explain, starting with kde version and distro |
| 14:12.52 | blip99 | hi all, kontact on kde3 is crashing on startup all of a sudden... i mean i get the deamon message from KDE. it worked perfectly yesterday. i reinstalled it via apt-get yet no effect. this is on KDE3...the strange thing is kmail still runs fine |
| 14:13.06 | |O-Zone| | i receive an error on Plasma: Could not find mime types: inode/directory.... |
| 14:13.07 | annma | blip99: try a new user |
| 14:13.17 | annma | blip99: might be an akregator stale file |
| 14:13.20 | |O-Zone| | Kde 4.1.3 on Slackware 12, self compiled from sources |
| 14:13.43 | annma | |O-Zone|: so konqueror does not start? |
| 14:14.01 | |O-Zone| | annma: konqueror start but i cannot see any web pages |
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| 14:14.13 | |O-Zone| | because that cannot find also application/otet-stream mime |
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| 14:14.34 | |O-Zone| | there'are mime missed |
| 14:14.45 | annma | and did that happen after you installed kde? |
| 14:14.51 | |O-Zone| | annma: yes |
| 14:15.02 | |O-Zone| | all mimes are under /share/mime dir ? |
| 14:15.18 | annma | what happen when you click on a html link from your irc client for ex? |
| 14:15.20 | blip99 | annma: ok i did a sudo su then ran kontact and got http://rafb.net/p/KdZbJG65.html |
| 14:15.30 | annma | a sudo blip99??? |
| 14:15.35 | annma | ???? |
| 14:15.42 | |O-Zone| | annma: i've any irc client |
| 14:15.50 | blip99 | huh ? i don't understand |
| 14:15.56 | annma | why a sudo? |
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| 14:16.19 | annma | did I say run as root? |
| 14:16.23 | blip99 | annma: you told me to try another account. all i've got is blip and root... so i did sudo su to become root.. and then ran kontact |
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| 14:16.38 | annma | ad a new user for test purpose |
| 14:16.43 | blip99 | ah i see |
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| 14:16.50 | annma | you can remove it later |
| 14:16.59 | blip99 | ok sure 1 min |
| 14:17.11 | |O-Zone| | where are mime defs ? |
| 14:17.45 | annma | $KDEDIR/share/mime |
| 14:18.01 | annma | $KDEDIR is kde-config4 --prefix |
| 14:18.10 | blip99 | can i run commands as the other user without loggin out ? i tried "sudo chicken" to become chicken but it failed |
| 14:18.35 | annma | kde4-config even |
| 14:19.00 | annma | you need to export display probably |
| 14:19.46 | jazka | blip99: try sudo u chicken <command> |
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| 14:21.47 | kriko | does kio_http_cache_ has some configuration? |
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| 14:27.14 | raijin | hello is there anyway to restart plasma? |
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| 14:27.27 | jazka | kquitapp plasma; plasma & |
| 14:27.52 | raijin | hmm thanks jazka |
| 14:29.26 | BluesKaj | I'm running kde4.2 beta and trying to restore the system tray which shows kmix,klipper etc ..I have the sys tray settings as visible but for some reason it's hidden underneath the panel and I'm unable to retrieve it. |
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| 14:31.10 | annma | BluesKaj: right click on Desktop -> Add widget, remove current systray and then drop a new one in panel |
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| 14:31.37 | Frogbarf | How do I fix my calender in Kontact? It's showing Monday as the first day of the week |
| 14:31.50 | Frogbarf | very confusing |
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| 14:35.45 | annma | what is in system settings as setting about that? |
| 14:35.47 | Jucato | Frogbarf: try setting it in System Settings |
| 14:35.51 | annma | Frogbarf: ^^ |
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| 14:35.58 | Jucato | Regional & Language -> Time & Dates tab |
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| 14:38.31 | Frogbarf | thanks Jucato That worked |
| 14:39.06 | BluesKaj | annma, uhm , I tried that but noyhing shows up |
| 14:39.32 | annma | BluesKaj: you mean you acnnot drop it in panel? |
| 14:39.38 | annma | can you drop any ohter applet? |
| 14:40.29 | BluesKaj | no |
| 14:40.40 | BluesKaj | seems hidden |
| 14:41.43 | annma | did you just install KDE4? |
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| 14:42.04 | BluesKaj | I have the devices icon, the clock , desktop indicatorand trash |
| 14:42.38 | BluesKaj | installed kde4 with intrepid then upgraded thru ppa to kde4.2 beta |
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| 14:44.37 | annma | ask your distro channel then |
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| 14:44.49 | annma | or try a new user |
| 14:44.51 | flower | I want to burn a videodvd with k3b, but I can't get the files in the order I want |
| 14:44.58 | annma | this is the universal remedy/diagnosis |
| 14:46.20 | BluesKaj | I think it's the activity bar ,not system tray as described in help ...anyway thanks for trying |
| 14:46.25 | BluesKaj | annma |
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| 14:49.33 | |O-Zone| | how i can set mime searh path on kde4 ? |
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| 15:04.48 | maco | how do i file a bug against the kde.org website? |
| 15:04.54 | |O-Zone| | simple question: where are mime typer for kde4 ? My kde cannot find inode/directory... |
| 15:05.17 | maco | or, oh. nevermind that's a wiki page :P |
| 15:05.34 | newbie | hi all |
| 15:05.39 | Jucato | |O-Zone|: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> File Associations |
| 15:05.53 | Jucato | maco: which wiki? |
| 15:06.01 | newbie | i want to use linux but i dont know distributions |
| 15:06.03 | pinotree | maco: www.kde.org is not a wiki |
| 15:06.15 | newbie | which can i prefer |
| 15:06.16 | newbie | ? |
| 15:06.28 | Jucato | newbie: best to ask in ##linux about distributions |
| 15:06.29 | maco | pinotree: the page i was looking at was a wiki page |
| 15:06.41 | Jucato | you can also make a search in http://www.distrowatch.com |
| 15:06.45 | pinotree | .. that is? |
| 15:06.49 | newbie | ok |
| 15:06.53 | newbie | thx |
| 15:06.57 | maco | i just realized it when i went to grab the url. so i just fixed the broken link on the wiki page instead |
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| 15:36.22 | MarkusAs | hi all i have a Problem with kaffeine and dvb-s kaffeine is immer stop wen klick the next channel |
| 15:37.14 | Phlogi | is there a way to completely disable akonadi? |
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| 15:40.39 | annma | Phlogi: first stop the server |
| 15:40.47 | annma | Phlogi: did you do that? |
| 15:40.59 | Phlogi | annma: nope, how? systemsettings I guess |
| 15:41.24 | Phlogi | it always comes when I start kontact |
| 15:41.26 | Phlogi | its annoying |
| 15:41.45 | annma | how did you install KDE? |
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| 15:41.54 | annma | is it beta1? |
| 15:42.14 | Phlogi | some days before I think |
| 15:42.14 | Phlogi | svn |
| 15:42.44 | annma | do you have mysql installed? |
| 15:42.57 | annma | akonadi starts with a message box |
| 15:43.08 | annma | it should tell you that the server is not started |
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| 15:43.50 | Phlogi | annma: jap thats doing it |
| 15:43.58 | Phlogi | I want to get rid of just that now |
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| 15:49.03 | annma | OK sorry I was busy, let me find the command to get rid of it |
| 15:49.12 | Phlogi | annma: hehe no problem :) |
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| 15:49.38 | Phlogi | but what bothers me just more is that ftp in dolphin des not work any longer... no message, it just hangs... :( or says its not supported, starting konqueror :S |
| 15:49.42 | Phlogi | I did not update kde... thats weird |
| 15:49.57 | annma | in konsole, type |
| 15:49.59 | annma | kwriteconfig --file kres-migratorrc --group Migration --key Enabled --type bool false |
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| 15:50.12 | annma | I got that from http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi |
| 15:50.33 | annma | dolphin works great here |
| 15:50.41 | annma | can you try a new user maybe |
| 15:51.50 | Phlogi | hmm ok |
| 15:53.10 | Phlogi | hmm as root it says: invalid protocol |
| 15:53.13 | annma | or also start t from konsole to see what it spits as debug messages |
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| 15:57.27 | Phlogi | annma: nothing interesting |
| 15:57.32 | Phlogi | maybe I'll just update... |
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| 15:57.39 | annma | it had no issues |
| 15:57.40 | Phlogi | is that kmail send attachment bug fixed? |
| 15:57.46 | Phlogi | annma: me neither until today |
| 15:57.49 | annma | what bug? |
| 15:57.52 | Phlogi | furthmore kdm crashen on login... so |
| 15:57.59 | Phlogi | kmail can't send any emails with attachment |
| 15:58.09 | annma | it can here |
| 15:58.17 | annma | I sent several pics 2 days ago |
| 15:58.21 | annma | and a patch |
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| 15:58.34 | annma | it seems your install is not top-notch |
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| 15:58.59 | Phlogi | annma: its a kmail bug, not my problem :) |
| 15:59.13 | Phlogi | when did you last update? I'm sure it just got fixed |
| 15:59.40 | annma | I never had it |
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| 15:59.44 | annma | since I use kmail |
| 15:59.52 | annma | since I use kmail trunk |
| 16:00.13 | annma | last update is a few days ago, maybe 5 days ago for kdepim |
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| 16:00.21 | l4m4_m4n | can somebody tell me how to configure koffice default font to Times New Roman? There is no option like this in Configure KWord |
| 16:00.30 | annma | it's not something I update everyday |
| 16:00.30 | Phlogi | annma: we'll see :) |
| 16:00.31 | Phlogi | hehe |
| 16:00.37 | Phlogi | annma: maybe I had a bad day :D |
| 16:00.41 | Phlogi | when updating |
| 16:00.51 | Phlogi | I guess a lot of bugs have been fixed during last week |
| 16:01.02 | annma | I am positive I sent attachements all the time Phlogi |
| 16:01.39 | annma | l4m4_m4n: #koffice |
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| 16:01.48 | Phlogi | hehe |
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| 16:02.05 | Phlogi | is running an update |
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| 16:04.11 | annma | you're using gentoo maybe? |
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| 16:06.36 | jaalto | In konqueror, how do I chnage Mouse-2 button to open pages "in new tab", not in "new window" |
| 16:08.06 | jaalto | This is 3.5.9 konqueror |
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| 16:16.08 | blip- | hi all, Kontact crashes every time i start it... as well as Korganizer but kmail runs fine... so i created a new user account, logged in with it and kontact opened fine..... how can i fix the one in my account and get all my todo list and calendar stuff back ? thanks |
| 16:18.06 | cb400f | blip-: maybe if you (re)move the settings (share/config/<something>rc and leave the data /share/apps/<something/ it'll work |
| 16:18.37 | cb400f | then you'd only have to reconfigure the apps.. but you data wouldn't be lost at least |
| 16:18.39 | annma | never REMOVE, just mv |
| 16:18.48 | cb400f | yeah |
| 16:18.57 | annma | blip-: in old user start each kontact app separately |
| 16:18.58 | junkDawgie | move the data to the new account... what annma said.. :) |
| 16:19.40 | annma | blip-: test if it's korganizer that crashes or akregator by calling them standalone |
| 16:20.02 | annma | often an akregator feed can do that |
| 16:20.36 | darius12 | and locating the actual problem so that it can be fixed wouldn't be bad either ;-) |
| 16:21.05 | annma | if it's a stale feed, sending it to akregator devel might be a good idea indeed |
| 16:21.07 | blip- | annma: ok korganizer crashes, kmail runs, knotes runs, akregator runs, kaddressbook runs |
| 16:21.16 | blip- | and kontact crashes. i think that's all |
| 16:21.16 | annma | so it's korganizer |
| 16:21.24 | blip- | oh |
| 16:21.27 | annma | kontact crashes if 1 of its apps crashes |
| 16:21.37 | blip- | good point :) |
| 16:21.41 | annma | that's logical as kontact is a wrap |
| 16:22.09 | annma | so first in $KDEHOME/share/config move korganizerrc to korganizerrc.bak |
| 16:22.33 | annma | retry starting korganizer |
| 16:22.51 | blip- | annma: when you say $KDEHOME you mean ~/.kde ? i don't have this var in my shellk |
| 16:22.53 | blip- | shell |
| 16:23.05 | blip- | never mind got it |
| 16:23.14 | annma | OK |
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| 16:24.04 | Moult | hey guys http://imagebin.org/32792 look familiar or did i discover something new>? |
| 16:25.52 | blip- | annma: hmm this is a bit strange, so i mved it and now korganizer runs fine (and i'm seeing my schedule) which is good. however kontact still crashes. i think i covered all apps right ? an interesting thing is the console outputs the following when i run contact: |
| 16:25.55 | blip- | kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. |
| 16:25.55 | blip- | *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) |
| 16:25.55 | blip- | ERROR: Communication problem with kontact, it probably crashed. |
| 16:26.10 | blip- | and that makes it seem like Kmail is crashing... even though kmail runs fine by itself :/ |
| 16:26.14 | annma | kmail crahed |
| 16:26.48 | annma | kmail is another matter if it's a mail that's stale |
| 16:27.21 | blip- | so kmail AND korganizer are both the problem ? i'll try mving the kmailrc file as well |
| 16:27.44 | darius12 | you may have hit 2 different problems |
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| 16:28.34 | shepherd | Moult: I don't know, but what theme is that? ;p |
| 16:28.53 | shepherd | -.-''' |
| 16:29.10 | blip- | i renamed the the kmailrc yet still kontact won't start. very strange. can i reinstall kde-pim or will that erase my good stuff ? |
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| 16:29.53 | cb400f | if it worked for another user the installation is fine |
| 16:29.58 | cb400f | the problem is in your settings |
| 16:30.34 | cb400f | and those won't be affected either way by reinstalling the packages.. they'll stay in your home |
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| 16:31.38 | blip- | cb400f: hmm but i can't pin down the program. it's not korganizer anymore since i renamed the korganizerrc file.... it's not kmail since kmail runs fine and i also renamed it's rc file.... yet kontact says "*** KMail got signal 11 (crashing)"... maybe it's actually saying that it (kontact) is sending a kill signal to kmail to shut it down. |
| 16:32.07 | blip- | oh lemme try kontactrc |
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| 16:32.43 | blip- | nope, no effect renaming that ^ |
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| 16:33.55 | cb400f | and kmail starts standalone now? |
| 16:34.03 | blip- | one question, is it normal for it to be making a depracted call ? when starting kmail in a console it says "kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action." |
| 16:34.09 | blip- | * deprecated |
| 16:34.19 | blip- | yes kmail is fine |
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| 16:37.55 | blip- | does this help at all ? http://rafb.net/p/Q30N7M77.html |
| 16:38.29 | blip- | one line 115 it says "[KCrash handler]" |
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| 16:41.32 | annma_ | you don't have debug symbols enabled |
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| 16:41.55 | gergap | hi |
| 16:42.36 | gergap | is this the right channel to ask about problems about ical appointments with kmail? I've found some compatibility issues. |
| 16:43.12 | annma | #kontact is kmail channel |
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| 16:43.36 | gergap | ok |
| 16:43.45 | blip- | annma: i'll check there for my problem. thanks |
| 16:44.01 | annma | not sureit's very active though blip- |
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| 16:46.26 | soa2ii | Hi there. Is there still this application quickstarter for the taskbar in kde4? If yes, it's quite hard to find. |
| 16:46.42 | annma | what was it in kde3? |
| 16:47.07 | soa2ii | The thing in the taskbar where you could put shell, filemanager and so on. |
| 16:47.24 | soa2ii | Windows have such a thing too... right to the "start" button |
| 16:48.07 | _RedGhost_ | If memory serves, that's called "quicklaunch" in Windows lingo |
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| 16:48.30 | _RedGhost_ | I *think* it might be up for 4.2 |
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| 16:49.30 | annma | icons in the panel? |
| 16:49.36 | soa2ii | Yeah |
| 16:49.40 | soa2ii | The small ones |
| 16:49.45 | soa2ii | Like the system tray |
| 16:49.46 | annma | just drag them from K menu in panel |
| 16:50.22 | soa2ii | annma: To what? |
| 16:50.29 | annma | to panel |
| 16:50.40 | annma | to right to K menu for ex |
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| 16:50.51 | soa2ii | Hmm that does not work |
| 16:50.56 | annma | the whole thig at the bottom is called a panel |
| 16:50.59 | _RedGhost_ | works in 4.1.2 at least... that's pretty cool |
| 16:51.08 | danotto | hi guys |
| 16:51.09 | annma | what kde version soa2ii |
| 16:51.12 | soa2ii | 4.1.3 |
| 16:51.17 | annma | should work |
| 16:51.21 | soa2ii | Weird. |
| 16:51.32 | annma | you don't have locked widgets by any chance? |
| 16:51.33 | _RedGhost_ | soa2ii: you need a free spot, like right after the menu button |
| 16:51.44 | annma | or next to pager |
| 16:51.55 | annma | some distros lock desktop though |
| 16:52.12 | soa2ii | Oh wait |
| 16:52.15 | danotto | any1 here use arch |
| 16:52.23 | _RedGhost_ | not very useful, but I guess it's ok for people who like it |
| 16:52.38 | danotto | what arch? |
| 16:52.39 | soa2ii | Yeah... I had to unlock it... silly me |
| 16:53.03 | soa2ii | If those symbols would be smaller now and stacked together it would be great |
| 16:53.15 | soa2ii | So big they consume a lot of space |
| 16:53.21 | danotto | any1 who uses arch pm me |
| 16:53.43 | annma | soa2ii: you put lots of them? |
| 16:53.52 | annma | why don't you start some at kde start? |
| 16:54.00 | annma | or in restore session? |
| 16:54.28 | soa2ii | annma: because I used to have there browser, shell, filemanager... the rest like kmail, amarok and so on is started automatically |
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| 16:55.13 | annma | 3 is not a lot soa2ii |
| 16:55.24 | annma | shell I autostart |
| 16:55.31 | soa2ii | But stacked like the system tray it would need about 25% the space :/ |
| 16:55.53 | soa2ii | That the taskbar isn't stacked any more is sad too :( |
| 16:55.56 | _RedGhost_ | soa2ii: you could make a different panel for them |
| 16:56.25 | soa2ii | _RedGhost_: Thought about that, too (: |
| 16:56.40 | soa2ii | I'll try |
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| 16:57.04 | serenity | aloha |
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| 16:58.06 | annma | soa2ii: if they were smaller they shoudl be on 2 rows but then clicking might be prone to error |
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| 16:58.24 | soa2ii | annma: Yeah... but if I want so :P |
| 16:58.43 | soa2ii | Systemtray is stacked, too... thats nice (: |
| 16:59.19 | annma | make a bug report and attach screenshots and explain how you use your desktop |
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| 16:59.53 | serenity | annma: hi, tomorrow there will be a torrent available ;) |
| 17:00.19 | soa2ii | Well you had all the Features in KDE3... I think they're coming back with 4.2... or don't you want to have at least all kde3-features with kde4? |
| 17:01.17 | soa2ii | Another question: my clock in the panel have really big spaces left and right... can you make them smaller somehow? |
| 17:01.37 | Half-Left | soa2ii: Bare in mind that KDE4 has features KDE3.x doesn't have |
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| 17:01.52 | soa2ii | Would be sad if not (: |
| 17:01.58 | annma | serenity: oh cool, don't forget to post a link somewhere |
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| 17:02.16 | serenity | annma: aaron will post it on his blog |
| 17:02.26 | annma | soa2ii: use kde3 if you don't find kde4 to your taste |
| 17:02.32 | annma | serenity: rocks! thanks! |
| 17:02.44 | soa2ii | annma: No no... KDE4 is really cool. |
| 17:02.49 | annma | soa2ii: you can use kicker on plasma |
| 17:03.00 | annma | I had that at the beginning of kde4 |
| 17:03.08 | serenity | that sounds disturbing ;) |
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| 17:05.33 | scsiraider | there is a bug in latest konqueror, the bookmarks menu popup starts at the top of the screen not under the toolbar like the rest of the menus |
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| 17:10.16 | Wizard | ji |
| 17:10.19 | Wizard | hi* |
| 17:10.38 | Wizard | i have something funny to show you ;D |
| 17:10.43 | Wizard | http://mati.7ds.pl/kde.bmp |
| 17:11.20 | serenity | Wizard: nice |
| 17:12.21 | Wizard | i was bored at work today |
| 17:13.00 | soa2ii | Is the only way to get konqueror usable that you have to install a local dns cache? Konqueror simply does not work for me :/ |
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| 17:15.22 | soa2ii | It took 35 Seconds to display wikipedia.de and there is just text without images and the stylesheet is often missing too |
| 17:15.41 | soa2ii | same system with firefox: 1 second |
| 17:15.49 | soa2ii | for the whole site. |
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| 17:27.09 | PowerJC | how do you install atlantik in kde 4? |
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| 17:29.42 | Half-Left | PowerJC: Thats a KDE3 game, it's not in KDE4 it seems |
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| 17:36.00 | PowerJC | but other kde 3 applications work in kde 4, so why is there no way to install atlantik? |
| 17:36.44 | Half-Left | It's a thrid part games? |
| 17:36.48 | Half-Left | party* |
| 17:37.06 | Half-Left | It should install like any other app |
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| 17:37.20 | drantin | no one was interested in porting it? |
| 17:37.49 | PowerJC | i tried using apt-get to install it, but dosn't work, gives error |
| 17:37.56 | PowerJC | can't find the package online either |
| 17:38.15 | Half-Left | Ask your distro channel then, as nothing to do with KDE about install it |
| 17:38.32 | PowerJC | ok |
| 17:38.58 | Half-Left | It's third party so try the source off kde-apps.org |
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| 17:40.14 | shadowhywind | hay all, I just installed kde 4.2 beta, and having a bit of an issue. (laptop user) I dual screen part of the time, but when i do single screen, I get Half of screen 1, and half of screen 2, on one screen |
| 17:40.17 | shadowhywind | any ideas? |
| 17:41.31 | PowerJC | there is a version of atlantik on kde-apps, but its the older version |
| 17:41.37 | PowerJC | is there anywhere i can get kdegames3? |
| 17:41.39 | junkDawgie | i wish i could do that on purpose, shadow |
| 17:42.18 | shadowhywind | junkDawgie: I don't think you would want this |
| 17:42.59 | Half-Left | PowerJC: From kde.org, where else :p |
| 17:43.23 | junkDawgie | :) i was thinking about having two sidebyside desktops on a 1080p screen... which doesn't help you at all.... merely my mind wandering... |
| 17:43.42 | shadowhywind | you want seperate x-session sort of right? |
| 17:43.42 | kdepepo | soa2ii, Fritzbox router? |
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| 17:57.00 | soa2ii | kdepepo: Yes. |
| 17:57.40 | kdepepo | soa2ii, see bug 162600. It is a hardware problem that only shows with Qt 4. |
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| 17:57.58 | soa2ii | wäh |
| 17:58.03 | kdepepo | (so most see it as a Qt 4 problem) |
| 17:58.11 | soa2ii | kdepepo: Where shall I look for the bug? |
| 17:58.17 | kdepepo | bugs.kde.org? |
| 17:58.19 | soa2ii | k |
| 17:58.45 | kdepepo | just entering the number in google is always right ;) |
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| 18:11.24 | victorlf | hello. I'm using kde 4.1 in a 2GHz core duo laptop with Gentoo. I get a LOT of X server use (about 20-60% all the time). Do you know of some issue that might caus that? I guess it's a bug and it's not usual in KDE 4. Thanks |
| 18:11.31 | kriko | Is anyone else experiencing krunner freezing / crashing or displaying errors when trying to launch ktorrent for kde4? |
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| 18:17.08 | gkiagia | kriko: I bet that's a broken .desktop file. which ktorrent version do you have? |
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| 18:17.40 | gkiagia | victorlf: 99% nvidia's fault (you are using nvidia drivers, aren't you?) |
| 18:17.43 | kriko | gkiagia: I had from early 3.x development versions |
| 18:17.53 | kriko | today still an issue |
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| 18:18.11 | gkiagia | I have ktorrent 3.1.4 and it works |
| 18:18.30 | gkiagia | ah well |
| 18:18.34 | kriko | no problems / errors when starting up via krunner? and only via krunner.... |
| 18:18.40 | gkiagia | still happens, indeed |
| 18:19.01 | gkiagia | I was just using debian's desktop entry (it's complicated...) |
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| 18:19.35 | gkiagia | it's an old bug, but nobody seems to care... |
| 18:19.50 | kriko | I'll make a bug report |
| 18:19.59 | gkiagia | no |
| 18:20.10 | gkiagia | it's reported one thousand times, let me find one |
| 18:20.23 | kriko | why noone fixes this? |
| 18:22.46 | gkiagia | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157853 |
| 18:23.16 | kriko | thanks |
| 18:23.25 | gkiagia | btw, it seems to be fixed in svn for ktorrent... http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=871391 |
| 18:25.59 | rdieter | kriko: I can vouche the fix is in ktorrent-3.1.5 |
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| 18:26.18 | rdieter | just missed 3.1.4 unfortunately |
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| 18:30.32 | millun | hi |
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| 18:31.16 | millun | i misclicked and somehow disabled something what is called in windows world "tray icons". |
| 18:31.29 | boloco | hi |
| 18:31.43 | millun | how do i put it back?? please |
| 18:32.22 | rdieter | millun: kde3? kde4? |
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| 18:32.27 | millun | kde4 |
| 18:32.32 | millun | oh got it back!! :-) |
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| 18:33.01 | rdieter | millun: readd system tray plasma applet |
| 18:33.19 | millun | i went to panel settings, clicked add widget and selected system tray |
| 18:33.27 | millun | readd? |
| 18:33.35 | rdieter | drag-n-drop system tray item to open place on panel |
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| 18:54.10 | Authority | can KDE4 be configured to allow the root password to be used to unlock a user's locked screen? |
| 18:54.23 | stdin | probably not |
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| 19:09.00 | tkoski | Hi guys, anyone knows if there will be 4.1.4 in December? |
| 19:09.12 | drantin | 4.2 won't be too much longer |
| 19:09.18 | pinotree | yes |
| 19:10.06 | tkoski | pinotree: thanks |
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| 19:27.52 | cga | hi all, anyone from kgpg here? |
| 19:28.10 | cga | (or anyone who uses it and can help on smart card reader) |
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| 19:35.25 | ganeshix | Hi |
| 19:35.44 | ganeshix | Im using korganizer embedded in konqueror to handle a calendar located on a remote ftp server... |
| 19:36.04 | ganeshix | Everything fine, except that, when I make changes on this calendar, it does not seem to save them... |
| 19:36.23 | ganeshix | Am I missing something (config, etc)? A hint would be nice... |
| 19:38.03 | ganeshix | I'm guessing here but, when I do the same at home, the changes on the calendar ARE saved. So what is different here at the office? |
| 19:38.38 | ganeshix | My guess, maybe the firewall does not allow for active ftp. How to set as pasive ftp instead? Any hint? |
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| 20:03.05 | shadowhywind | so i had the issue fixed for a single reboot. Now I am my issue again, the second screen is getting displayed on the first as well as the second |
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| 20:03.40 | shadowhywind | its very odd |
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| 20:08.34 | shadowhywind | so does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this dual screen weridness? |
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| 20:24.47 | ganeshix | I checked at the Control Center that passive ftp is enabled. So, it should be enabled. At least that's something.. |
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| 20:34.46 | darkwizzard | hello |
| 20:34.56 | darkwizzard | I compilled kde4 from source |
| 20:35.04 | darkwizzard | but konqueror can't access the internet |
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| 20:35.16 | darkwizzard | and nor can any other application using kioslaves |
| 20:35.17 | driva2009 | evening all. |
| 20:35.20 | darkwizzard | I recompiled kdelibs |
| 20:35.28 | darkwizzard | I have every optional package |
| 20:35.31 | darkwizzard | any ideas ? |
| 20:36.01 | driva2009 | I am in the process of learning Japanese, and have decided to localize my system into the language to help with my learning. I have localized both as root and user, and yet my system is still in english. |
| 20:36.17 | driva2009 | can anyone please point me as to what the heck has gone wrong? |
| 20:36.19 | tkoski | shadowhywind: what problems you have with the dual screen? |
| 20:36.42 | darkwizzard | I have dinamic Ip with pppoe |
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| 20:37.01 | driva2009 | My kde-i18n-ja and locales-ja have both been installed and the localizer in mandriva control center is set to Japanese/Japan |
| 20:37.13 | driva2009 | KDE 4.1.2 / Mandriva 2009.0 |
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| 20:42.26 | user__ | hy |
| 20:42.28 | user__ | hey |
| 20:42.30 | user__ | guys |
| 20:43.21 | pinotree | new record: 19 seconds |
| 20:43.47 | driva2009 | hi pinotree |
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| 20:48.20 | xenoterracide_ | how do I get kde4 to power off my monitor after a while? |
| 20:49.00 | cga | is there a room for kde developers?? i'd like to talk to one |
| 20:49.29 | driva2009 | xenoterracide: Open systemsettings, click on Display in Computer Administration section, then on Power control |
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| 20:49.51 | driva2009 | you will find your settings for standby, suspend and power off in there |
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| 20:50.13 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: ^^ |
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| 20:50.23 | driva2009 | i hate nick autocomplete |
| 20:50.27 | driva2009 | :) |
| 20:51.19 | Half-Left | cga: Depends what you want to talk about |
| 20:51.48 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: yeah I use that... but it's not powering off my monitor |
| 20:51.59 | cga | Half-Left: a long time open bug which it might be easy to solve but dev seem to have lost interest in it even if it *is* important. |
| 20:52.09 | driva2009 | hm. |
| 20:52.16 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: well technically the other xenoterracide is me too... but that comp is connected in another city ;) |
| 20:52.21 | driva2009 | ah |
| 20:52.23 | cga | Half-Left: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116201 |
| 20:52.31 | driva2009 | One moment while i look at this |
| 20:53.01 | cga | Half-Left: i stumbled upon in looking for smart card support in kgpg/kmail/kdm |
| 20:53.38 | cga | Half-Left: it seems that it could implemented directly in kde (might be phonon?) to have it everywhere. |
| 20:53.58 | xenoterracide_ | I think it's about time I filed a bug on poweroff not working |
| 20:54.29 | Half-Left | cga: Wouldn't know who to send you to on that |
| 20:54.38 | cga | Half-Left: the tools are there (pcscs-lite pkcs#11 and the likes) it only misses kde integration |
| 20:54.54 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: Which kde version and which distribution please? |
| 20:55.08 | cga | Half-Left: just give me the channel :P |
| 20:55.20 | driva2009 | i know you said kde4, which sub-version? |
| 20:55.32 | Half-Left | There is no one specific channel |
| 20:55.41 | cga | Half-Left: not to be rude sorry. i was playing rough on purpose |
| 20:55.54 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: 4.1.3 both ubuntu and gentoo have an issue |
| 20:56.04 | cga | Half-Left: no #kde-developers ? |
| 20:56.14 | driva2009 | ah. Well I am on 4.1.2, and running Mandriva 2009 |
| 20:56.18 | cga | Half-Left: i trid #kde-dev but ended in my empty room |
| 20:56.44 | xenoterracide_ | #kde-devel |
| 20:56.45 | Half-Left | cga: They are here and various other channels |
| 20:56.52 | cga | oh ok =) |
| 20:57.00 | cga | thanks xenoterracide_ |
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| 20:58.47 | xenoterracide_ | hmm... is there a dcop call to manually attempt to shut the power off with kde? |
| 20:58.52 | xenoterracide_ | what prog does it? |
| 20:59.11 | xenoterracide_ | xset dpms force off works |
| 20:59.20 | carsy | kubuntu intrepid, just upgraded to 4.2 beta...excellent work! |
| 21:00.00 | carsy | tried to install a couple of widgets and get a similar message: This object could not be created for the following reason: |
| 21:01.14 | carsy | could not find requested component: BbalL, frame (for Picture Viewer), previewer (for Previewer). Any ideas on what's up (or down)? |
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| 21:02.33 | carsy | some widgets work fine. just tried Show Desktop "...could not find requested component: showdesktop" |
| 21:02.55 | driva2009 | Anyone got an answer for my problem with localization please? I need to sort this if possible. Distro channel pointed me here. |
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| 21:03.40 | driva2009 | Long story short: I localized into japanese, everything I need is installed. Logged out, logged in, whole system is still in english. |
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| 21:03.49 | xenoterracide_ | is it possible my monitor didn't shut down because I didn't have powerdevil? |
| 21:04.36 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: do you use an apm or apci interface? |
| 21:04.48 | driva2009 | Do you have automatic power management or an apci? |
| 21:05.09 | xenoterracide_ | apci I think... I'm apm is older isn't it? |
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| 21:05.22 | driva2009 | i found my monitor didn't power off until I installed an apci controller |
| 21:05.29 | driva2009 | right |
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| 21:05.53 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: can you do me a favour please? |
| 21:06.04 | driva2009 | Can you open Konsole, and type the following line: |
| 21:06.12 | driva2009 | dmesg > dmesg.txt |
| 21:06.42 | driva2009 | when you do this, you will pass the contents of the dmesg into a text file. |
| 21:06.52 | xenoterracide_ | yeah I know how to use the cli |
| 21:07.06 | driva2009 | Open the text file up in something like kate, and paste up the contents to a pastebin please. |
| 21:07.16 | driva2009 | sorry, didn't mean to sound condesending |
| 21:07.19 | driva2009 | :) |
| 21:07.49 | xenoterracide_ | any particular bin? 'cause some people are picky about 'bins |
| 21:08.11 | driva2009 | use something like pastebin.ca or something like that |
| 21:08.18 | driva2009 | i ain't too fussed :) |
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| 21:08.46 | xenoterracide_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1277219 |
| 21:08.49 | driva2009 | thanks |
| 21:08.52 | driva2009 | one mo |
| 21:08.53 | xenoterracide_ | some people get fussy about it |
| 21:09.07 | driva2009 | i ain't fussy as long as I can get to it and read it :D |
| 21:09.27 | xenoterracide_ | see I know dpms works... I just don't know why kde's settins aren't |
| 21:09.43 | xenoterracide_ | suppose I could configure xorg.conf and bypass kde |
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| 21:11.02 | TheBlunderbuss | 3.5.10 here. How can I disable the screensaver, when I lock the computer? |
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| 21:12.43 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: you have apm and acpi installed, but apm is disabled |
| 21:13.24 | driva2009 | i can't see any other issues with your dmesg, so I am at a loss. Did this work in 4.1.2? or have you just come straight to 4.1.3? |
| 21:13.58 | xenoterracide_ | don't recall it working in 4.1.2 in gentoo either... but I'm not 100% anymore |
| 21:14.19 | xenoterracide_ | this box has been straight ubuntu, just set it up yesterday |
| 21:14.31 | driva2009 | hold on a moment, i will be back |
| 21:14.34 | xenoterracide_ | and the monitor shut off in gnome |
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| 21:14.53 | xenoterracide_ | me too gonna test |
| 21:17.22 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: I am speaking to #ubuntu right now to see if anyone else ubuntu side is experiencing this |
| 21:18.36 | xenoterracide_ | wouldn't #kubuntu be more prudent? this is on a dell ubuntu box.. am I allowed to complain to dell :P |
| 21:19.19 | driva2009 | good point |
| 21:19.39 | driva2009 | I don't know about dell, I don't deal with dell, but let me check in kubuntu instead |
| 21:19.56 | xenoterracide_ | yeah dell wouldn't care unless I can prove hardware ;) |
| 21:20.51 | cga | what is teh name for kde4 remote desktop software? |
| 21:20.52 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: do you know what app manages this? |
| 21:20.58 | cga | vnc even |
| 21:21.02 | xenoterracide_ | cga: krdc |
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| 21:21.10 | xenoterracide_ | or is it krdp |
| 21:21.16 | xenoterracide_ | can't remember |
| 21:21.21 | cga | xenoterracide_: mmmm might be dp |
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| 21:21.24 | cga | thanks |
| 21:21.30 | sredna | hi |
| 21:21.34 | sredna | i have some plasmoids that have too large fonts, so that the text does not fit inside that plasmoid |
| 21:21.43 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: the power management should be controlled through systemsettings, but thats clearly not working |
| 21:21.45 | sredna | which font is it i have to adjust? |
| 21:21.57 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: which version of ubuntu do you have? |
| 21:22.03 | xenoterracide_ | 8.04 |
| 21:22.36 | cga | xenoterracide_: krdc, but it seems not packaged in fedora |
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| 21:22.41 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: the reason I'm asking is I'm betting there's a dcop call if I know what command to run on the cli |
| 21:23.00 | cga | xenoterracide_: oh yes !! it's in kde-network |
| 21:23.08 | driva2009 | at this point, i am lost, xenoterracide_ - I use very little CLI if ever |
| 21:23.17 | driva2009 | so I don't have much idea cli wise |
| 21:25.15 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: well at this point I'm 90% sure it's a kde bug |
| 21:25.33 | xenoterracide_ | because kde should be calling x11 |
| 21:25.41 | xenoterracide_ | and the x11 command line stuff works |
| 21:25.44 | driva2009 | xenoterracide_: can you join me in #kubuntu please? |
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| 21:28.22 | vital | I changed my desktop to show icons, and now I dont find how to go back to "normal" :) could someone tell me how to start desktop-settings program? kde 4.1.80 trunk |
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| 21:34.57 | PhilRod | vital: right-click -> appearance settings ? |
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| 21:35.41 | cga | vital: show icons switch?? where? |
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| 21:40.00 | xenoterracide_ | driva2009: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165265 I got money says that's my bug |
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| 21:45.43 | pardus_Dogan | hi |
| 21:45.59 | pardus_Dogan | how to view koverstion save pass |
| 21:46.15 | driva2009 | pardus_Dogan: I don't think its possible |
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| 21:47.35 | TheBlunderbuss | I'm looking to lock the screen without a screen saver. How would I go about doing that? |
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| 21:48.24 | rdieter | TheBlunderbuss: not even the "blank" screensaver? |
| 21:50.02 | TheBlunderbuss | rdieter: No, because I want to have a movie play in the meanwhile |
| 21:50.23 | rdieter | TheBlunderbuss: you need a "movie" screensaver. :) |
| 21:51.48 | TheBlunderbuss | Sounds ok for the time-being, but I'll want a no-screensaver/no-blanking screen lock in the future |
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| 21:55.25 | TheBlunderbuss | rdieter: the built-in media screensaver dies. |
| 21:55.41 | xenoterracide_ | blunderbuss why? want burn in? |
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| 21:56.54 | TheBlunderbuss | I'll want to play a movie, but lock the computer. |
| 21:56.58 | TheBlunderbuss | That's pretty much it. |
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| 21:57.20 | pardus_Dogan_ | how to see konversion star password? |
| 21:57.58 | xenoterracide_ | TheBlunderbuss: well I'm not sure kde can do it |
| 21:58.10 | xenoterracide_ | but have you tried xscreensaver or xlockmore |
| 21:58.43 | TheBlunderbuss | I've never had any luck with KDE media players, so I'm looking for any alternatives. |
| 21:58.51 | TheBlunderbuss | Yes. And Yes. They both black out the screen. |
| 21:59.11 | xenoterracide_ | smplayer |
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| 21:59.16 | xenoterracide_ | qt and awesom |
| 21:59.48 | serenity | same to vlc |
| 21:59.49 | xenoterracide_ | TheBlunderbuss: by default... but have you checked docs... I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure what you want can be done |
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| 22:00.50 | pardus_Dogan_ | help me please how to see konverstion save sta pass |
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| 22:01.20 | TheBlunderbuss | If there was a way to integrate another media player into the screensaver, that'd work too. |
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| 22:08.15 | TheBlunderbuss | Hmm Maybe I'll try setting the config file to a .desktop that has the media player in it |
| 22:10.24 | pardus_Dogan_ | no answer me ? |
| 22:10.43 | pardus_Dogan_ | how to see konverstion save password |
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| 22:16.04 | driva2009 | pardus_Dogan_: I answered you almost 30 minutes ago. I don't think it can be done. You can't see the saved password in konversation, i think. |
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| 22:16.59 | driva2009 | Can anyone here tell me how to stretch the panel across the screen in kde4 please? I have a user in #mandriva who says his panel only extends to 80% across. he wants it all the way |
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| 22:22.17 | herlimenezes | hi, folks! |
| 22:23.31 | wassy121 | Hello there. I am running kde 4.2 on ubuntu ibex. How can I configure the corner actions (to lock screen for example). |
| 22:23.57 | wassy121 | Also, I had to chmod u+s /opt/kde*/libexec/checkpass in order to unlock my screen. |
| 22:24.11 | wassy121 | I saw some bug about that from long ago. Is it just packaging failure? |
| 22:24.22 | herlimenezes | got a problem here: i got a new lcd display - LG Flatron - w2252TQ. I have adjusted its resolution to the maximum. It works fine at gnome, but with kde 4.1, configurations aren't mantained...any guess? |
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| 22:26.12 | herlimenezes | * maximum resolution: 1050x1400 |
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| 22:26.22 | herlimenezes | at 60 hz |
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| 22:30.44 | Half-Left | herlimenezes: Use KRandRTray |
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| 22:36.52 | herlimenezes | Half-Left: excuse me what is this? where can i get it? |
| 22:37.06 | Half-Left | comes with kde4.1 |
| 22:37.52 | herlimenezes | Half-Left: what is this? |
| 22:38.30 | Half-Left | It allows you to switch resolution on the fly and sets the resolution proper on start |
| 22:38.47 | herlimenezes | ok, ty...i will try it |
| 22:39.12 | herlimenezes | im using gnome for now. i wiil switch to kde |
| 22:39.27 | herlimenezes | thank you |
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| 22:40.14 | ArkoldThos | heya =) |
| 22:40.45 | ArkoldThos | someone can tell me about the re writing of msn protocol on kopete? |
| 22:42.29 | Half-Left | It just uses libmsn which is a seperate project |
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| 22:43.07 | ArkoldThos | oki, thanks =) |
| 22:43.41 | Half-Left | with is I think msn15 so better support for the protocol |
| 22:43.46 | Half-Left | which* |
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| 22:44.09 | ArkoldThos | is just that i am reading this |
| 22:44.17 | ArkoldThos | Also, if you absolutely need MSN support in Kopete you probably don't want to upgrade, as the MSN protocol is temporarily unavailable while we package new libraries needed for the rewritten MSN plugin. |
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| 22:45.04 | Half-Left | No it's fine in svn atm |
| 22:45.34 | Half-Left | Thats old news |
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| 22:51.07 | Half-Left | Holy crap |
| 22:51.22 | Half-Left | Amarok2 using over 400mb, nice! |
| 22:52.06 | eljefe | Where can I define a keybinding to turn on and off Desktop Effects in KDE 4.1.2? |
| 22:52.14 | herlimenezes | Half-Left: thank you half, it worked... |
| 22:52.55 | Half-Left | herlimenezes: Good, leave it in the tray when when you start it will set the correct res |
| 22:53.03 | [Kame2] | eljefe: default is strg+alt+F12. but i don't know how to change |
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| 22:53.22 | eljefe | strg? [Kame2] ? |
| 22:53.24 | [Kame2] | sorry, shift+alt+F12 |
| 22:53.27 | eljefe | lol ok |
| 22:53.37 | [Kame2] | ;) |
| 22:53.44 | eljefe | yeah thats pretty good i suppose, thanks! |
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| 23:04.36 | naught101 | kde4 krusader has no syncronise function?? |
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| 23:09.14 | jabop | Hi, I'm trying to stop "HTTP Cache Cleaner..." from launching. How can I stop this? I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 |
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| 23:28.39 | serenity | aseigo: where should i put the intro? |
| 23:32.45 | ilj | yawns |
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| 23:37.17 | aseigo | serenity: upload it somewhere i can get at it? |
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| 23:39.52 | serenity | hates firefox while uploading... |
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