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| 00:04.48 | gato | Hi, I am having bad time migrating from KDE3 to KDE4 (Fedora 10)... Let me please make some questions: |
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| 00:05.18 | gato | 1) I cannot set a wallpaper with "dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface setWallpaper". Which is the command now? |
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| 00:06.26 | Rudd-O | hello guys |
| 00:06.28 | gato | 2) How to remove applets from the panel that does not have the option to do so, like the taskbar? |
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| 00:06.31 | Rudd-O | can someone help me witha problem I have? |
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| 00:06.39 | Rudd-O | I cannot seem to open the K Menu with Alt+F1 |
| 00:06.59 | Rudd-O | note that Alt+F1 IS the configured hotkey in keyboard shortcuts systemsettings capplet |
| 00:08.00 | fva | gato: afaik, there is no way to set a wallpaper externally now... could be wrong though |
| 00:08.01 | Rudd-O | so what could be wrong and how can I debug the problem myself? |
| 00:08.27 | fva | gato: if there were a way, it would be through dbus, as dcop is no longer used |
| 00:09.19 | gato | fva: Yes, I read dcop is dead, but to be unable to change wallpaper??? What a step backwards... |
| 00:09.21 | Rudd-O | hello? |
| 00:10.14 | gato | fva: In fact, cannot make festival talk, even when festival tests ok through the KDE config menu... |
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| 00:11.13 | gato | fva: pulseaudio gives me tons of errors, so much that I uninstalled it (like I had to do with Fedora 8). |
| 00:11.37 | fva | gato: i think the people in the #plasma channel will be able to give you a better answer on that wallpaper question |
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| 00:12.18 | gato | fva: what is plasma? |
| 00:12.40 | fva | gato: replacement for kicker/kdesktop |
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| 00:13.15 | fva | can't really help you with your pulseaudio/festival issues though... i have no experience with those |
| 00:14.33 | gato | It's sad that upgrading means to loose features... KDE4 seems to be more worried about Windows Vista than Linux. |
| 00:16.08 | pinotree | and it's sad to see kde4 "users" trying to compare it with vista or macosx, in some braindead thoughts |
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| 00:16.31 | pinotree | can we please stop to do this kind of stupid comparisons with vista, pretty please? |
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| 00:17.01 | aanderse | have you guys seen windows 7 previews? i saw one and thought "wow, looks like they are trying to copy kde4". |
| 00:17.10 | aanderse | i don't know what all these people saying kde4 is copying |
| 00:17.13 | aanderse | it's being copied |
| 00:17.25 | aanderse | no one has done what kde4 has done yet :) |
| 00:17.29 | gato | pinotree: no problem... but only when linux developers forget about WIndows and concentrate on Linux! |
| 00:17.32 | junkDawgie | off topic |
| 00:17.45 | pinotree | gato: who's "forgetting linux"? |
| 00:17.55 | aanderse | anyways, if i wanted to switch my qt4 application to kde4, how would this affect my windows users? |
| 00:18.05 | AlexElliott | He didn't say that? |
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| 00:19.19 | gato | the developers that drops/breaks features... but everything looks "nice", of course. |
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| 00:19.27 | Rudd-O | hey gents |
| 00:19.39 | AlexElliott | Ok, apparently he is now. I withdraw |
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| 00:19.44 | Rudd-O | I deleted my global shrtcuts file in an attempt to reset them, restarted my session |
| 00:19.55 | Rudd-O | and NOTHING, Still the k menu does not pop up when I ht alt f1 |
| 00:19.58 | pinotree | gato: what do features have to do with windows or linux or what else operating system? |
| 00:20.04 | lpjhjdh | does swfdec firefox plugin work in konqueror? |
| 00:20.07 | fva | Rudd-O: running trunk? |
| 00:20.13 | Rudd-O | no |
| 00:20.15 | Rudd-O | 4.1.3 |
| 00:20.20 | fva | oh |
| 00:20.26 | fva | on what distro? |
| 00:20.30 | pinotree | lpjhjdh: why shouldn't it? |
| 00:20.30 | Rudd-O | f10 |
| 00:20.52 | Rudd-O | ideas? |
| 00:20.59 | lpjhjdh | konqueror finds it but flash stuff just doesn't come up |
| 00:21.05 | gato | It seems to me that people concentrate so much on the "look" that they forget about things more important. |
| 00:21.09 | Rudd-O | lpjhjdh: is the problem intermittent? |
| 00:21.10 | fva | Rudd-O: had some issues with that too, it's only since a week or two ago that shortcut started working for me on trunk |
| 00:21.19 | Rudd-O | fva: so it's a bug in the code? |
| 00:21.27 | Rudd-O | no workarounds or corrupted files I can kill so.. |
| 00:21.38 | Rudd-O | oh shi... omigod, I dleeted a bunch of keyboard shortcuts I use all the time |
| 00:21.39 | Rudd-O | dang |
| 00:21.48 | fva | Rudd-O: tried that on my setup already... the menu shortcut is one of the few that actually works for me |
| 00:22.02 | pinotree | gato: don't you thunk this is being done already? |
| 00:22.04 | lpjhjdh | nope, just no flash |
| 00:22.05 | fva | Rudd-O: don't know if it's my own fault, or a real bug |
| 00:22.14 | lpjhjdh | although I haven't directly tried a swf yet |
| 00:22.30 | pinotree | *think |
| 00:22.44 | fva | Rudd-O: you asking about if lpjhjdh's flash problem is intermittent... do you have a fix for that? |
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| 00:23.23 | mschiff | hm my kmail just deleted my complete maildata on a crash... nothing left on the disk... |
| 00:23.32 | gato | pinotree: Yes, I think they are forgetting about important things now. I switched several years ago from GNOME to KDE because KDE is much more configurable. It seems to me that KDE is loosing that. To me, those are the important things. |
| 00:23.45 | mschiff | (kmail from KDE 4.1.3) |
| 00:24.22 | pinotree | gato: and i don't think so, given also that you are saying quite vague statements about "important" (which?) things |
| 00:24.45 | lpjhjdh | the crappy adobe flash plugin works fine for some reason |
| 00:25.01 | lpjhjdh | but with swfdec it just doesn't seem to load stuff |
| 00:26.57 | pinotree | lpjhjdh: you could try to a) execute kdebugdialog, find and activate the debug areas of "nsplugin" (use the search bar) b) run konqueror from command line and see whether it outputs anything related to that |
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| 00:27.40 | pinotree | (where "that" is "swfdec") |
| 00:28.18 | gato | pinotree: which?? Cofigurability. |
| 00:28.34 | pinotree | gato: still generic, please provide examples. |
| 00:28.35 | mschiff | even the kmail config has gone :-( |
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| 00:28.47 | gato | I've already done it: wallpaper. |
| 00:29.18 | pinotree | wallpaper is configurable, plasma just needs a D-Bus interface |
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| 00:30.28 | gato | Please answer my question 1 then. |
| 00:30.42 | pinotree | i just did |
| 00:30.51 | gato | Doing things through menus = Windows. |
| 00:31.08 | pinotree | haha |
| 00:31.31 | pinotree | be serious, really |
| 00:32.11 | fva | regarding the flash problem floating around here... konqueror only shows embedded flash ~10% of the time |
| 00:32.36 | fva | youtube is a good example, and just reloading the page a number of times usually helps |
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| 00:34.15 | gato | pinotree: Do you know how to avoid the Network Applet to appear at startup? (Don't tell me 'pkill nm-applet'....) |
| 00:34.22 | Rudd-O | fva: yes it is a race condition in nspluginviewer |
| 00:34.32 | fva | Rudd-O: any workarounds/fixes? |
| 00:34.35 | Rudd-O | sometimes it "catches" flash, sometimes it dont and you ahve to reload |
| 00:34.42 | Rudd-O | fva: it's ben with me since I have 64bit linux |
| 00:34.45 | pinotree | gato: remove its .desktop entry in /etc/xdg/autostart |
| 00:34.49 | fva | Rudd-O: 32bit here |
| 00:34.51 | Rudd-O | and it usually happened in the past but with much less frequency |
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| 00:35.03 | Rudd-O | bsically just copy the url to the clipboard, nuke konq, reopen it with the url |
| 00:35.06 | Rudd-O | it SUCKS BIG TIME |
| 00:35.11 | Rudd-O | but it's ... the only thing I could come up with |
| 00:35.14 | Rudd-O | now I use firefox |
| 00:35.19 | Rudd-O | ironically firefox works faster than konq |
| 00:35.21 | gato | root priviledges?? |
| 00:35.28 | Rudd-O | konq here FREEZES for tewnty to thirty seconds sometimes |
| 00:35.45 | pinotree | gato: this is installed by distro packages, so yes |
| 00:35.47 | fva | Rudd-O: this and the random 404 errors i get on some pages are a major pain :P |
| 00:36.12 | Rudd-O | the 404 has nothing to do with konq |
| 00:36.16 | metres | Hello, I'm trying to configure keyboard shortcut (from laptop buttons) but it does not work ( no key appears when I pressed my button). I configure my button in (~/.Xmodmap) using the keycode returned by the showkey command ( I also tried to configure it in my keymap file) anyone knows what I miss ? |
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| 00:36.30 | Rudd-O | but I see them sometimes with facebook |
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| 00:36.38 | Rudd-O | it seems it is a javascript bug in their site |
| 00:36.47 | gato | So a user cannot CONFIGURE it for not appearing. This was my only point: KDE is loosing configurability. |
| 00:37.18 | Rudd-O | gato: what are you talking about? |
| 00:37.55 | holycow | heh |
| 00:37.55 | pinotree | gato: you mean like systemsettings â advanced â autostart, ie a NEW configuration module? |
| 00:38.18 | Rudd-O | yes then properties |
| 00:38.24 | fva | Rudd-O: are you sure? i get it all the time with wikipedia |
| 00:38.27 | holycow | the other day i found a great wallpaper of frost ona window and was thinking wouldn't it be great to write a plugin for plasma that does the same thing as the wallpaper |
| 00:38.34 | holycow | or as a screen saver over top of your desktop |
| 00:38.35 | Rudd-O | neh I do not get those errors |
| 00:38.45 | fva | Rudd-O: seems to happen more often (or exclusively, not sure...) on sites that use load balancing |
| 00:38.52 | hoonteke | has anyone been report speed problems with 4.1? |
| 00:38.54 | holycow | well in true kde fasion, i'm reading that kde 4.2 will have support for exactly that, even if rudimentary |
| 00:38.58 | holycow | man i love kde |
| 00:39.08 | Rudd-O | fva: capture the http conversation between client and server using wireshark, send it to me, see what went wrong so I can try to reproduce it |
| 00:39.09 | gato | pinotree: Sorry, I don't have KDE4 in this box to check. |
| 00:39.09 | hoonteke | I'm new enough to KDE that I don't know yet how to diagnose errors like I did with Gnome |
| 00:39.16 | holycow | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081202-hands-on-kde-4-2-beta-1.html |
| 00:39.19 | Rudd-O | holycow: support for "filter-like" plugins for plasma? |
| 00:39.25 | Rudd-O | fux yes! |
| 00:39.41 | gato | pinotree: WIth your suggestion, the taskbar can be also removed from the main panel? |
| 00:39.55 | Rudd-O | are there 4.2 rpms? |
| 00:39.59 | holycow | support for dynamic wallpaper more specifically. to include slideshows, some other stuff, plus the ability to load a plugin that draws the wallpaper dynamically |
| 00:40.30 | pinotree | gato: right click on an empty place on it, remove? |
| 00:40.37 | Rudd-O | well the wlalpaper thing was easy to do, put a pictuer frame, make it very big, lock it, and have it rotate images |
| 00:40.38 | holycow | does kde have a screensaver app? |
| 00:40.46 | fva | Rudd-O: can you check something else for me? |
| 00:40.48 | Rudd-O | holycow: systemsettings, look for screensaver there |
| 00:40.50 | holycow | or are we using xscreensaver or whatever its still called? |
| 00:40.52 | Rudd-O | fva: what exactly? |
| 00:41.05 | fva | Rudd-O: http://www.viamichelin.fr/viamichelin/fra/dyn/controller/Cartes |
| 00:41.06 | Rudd-O | holycow: kde has always used kscreensaver, which has the ability to WRAP xscreensaver, but does not require it |
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| 00:41.18 | fva | Rudd-O: does the ajax stuff that gets loaded have the correct encoding? |
| 00:41.21 | holycow | Rudd-O: oh really? |
| 00:41.23 | fva | it doesn't on my system |
| 00:41.25 | holycow | i can remove xscreensaver? |
| 00:41.31 | holycow | wicked, i hate that thing, thanks |
| 00:41.46 | Rudd-O | holycow: you should be able to |
| 00:41.48 | Rudd-O | yes |
| 00:41.49 | gato | pinotree: Of course I tried that. No remove/delete option for some of the default applets, the 2 I remember being the Network and the taksbar (where the new windows appear). |
| 00:41.54 | Rudd-O | but then you will only have the kde screensavers |
| 00:42.16 | holycow | its not like the xscreensavers are any good anyway |
| 00:42.20 | pinotree | gato: all the applets have a "remove" option, that is for sure |
| 00:42.32 | gato | Network doesn't. |
| 00:42.37 | fva | Rudd-O: was that 'yes' directed to me? |
| 00:42.38 | pinotree | all have |
| 00:42.42 | gato | nope. |
| 00:42.45 | pinotree | yep |
| 00:42.50 | gato | nope. :o) |
| 00:43.09 | pinotree | this is something added automatically for each applet, so yes. |
| 00:43.25 | gato | Seriously, it is not. |
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| 00:43.34 | pinotree | sure it is |
| 00:43.39 | fva | gato: for some applets, it's hard to click in the right spot, or your click gets caught by some other part |
| 00:43.39 | Rudd-O | fva: no, to holycow |
| 00:43.42 | Rudd-O | hey |
| 00:43.43 | Rudd-O | fva: |
| 00:43.46 | Rudd-O | your page has the wrong encoding |
| 00:43.49 | Rudd-O | completely fail |
| 00:43.56 | Rudd-O | you need to send the CORRECT http header |
| 00:44.02 | Rudd-O | utf-8 |
| 00:44.10 | Rudd-O | Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 |
| 00:44.22 | fva | Rudd-O: that's not my page, just some page i noticed |
| 00:44.28 | Rudd-O | ok |
| 00:44.35 | Rudd-O | hey any of ya guys use plone? |
| 00:44.39 | gato | fva: I right-clicked in the Network applet, and a menu appears, even with the "About..." option that shows you: Network..., but no remove option! |
| 00:45.06 | fva | gato: oh, that would be a system tray icon then |
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| 00:45.09 | fva | not a plasma applet |
| 00:45.20 | fva | Rudd-O: so why does firefox get it right? makes more assumptions about the charset than konqueror does? |
| 00:45.39 | Rudd-O | fva: firefox does not get it right, firefox also gets it wrong too, it's just that firefox gets it wrong INTENTIONALLY |
| 00:45.39 | lpjhjdh | hmm, can I get verbose output from konqueror or something? |
| 00:46.03 | Rudd-O | as in "hey this page says it's X but in reality it seems more like Y, so you know what, I am going to disregard proper configuration and go with my first instinct" |
| 00:46.40 | lpjhjdh | pretty sparse, just some qdbus stuff |
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| 00:48.32 | fva | Rudd-O: could it be that firefox assumes the encoding of any extra content that doesn't have its encoding specified, to be the same as the main page? |
| 00:48.58 | gato | fva: I just want to eliminate the network applet and taskbar/window list (the place where windows are listed) from the system tray. And I was unable to find any "remove" entry by right clicking on them. Perhaps I didn't click in the right place for the taskbar, but I did for the nework applet. I googled it, and the only think I found was a 'pkill nm-applet'. |
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| 00:49.20 | Rudd-O | fva: no |
| 00:49.26 | Rudd-O | "main pages" are not considered for that |
| 00:49.31 | fva | gato: that network applet isn't even part of kde if i get you right |
| 00:49.52 | fva | gato: as for the taskbar, try clicking right between two buttons |
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| 00:50.13 | fva | gato: it's an issue that was fixed already, but isn't in 4.1.3 i think |
| 00:50.41 | fva | Rudd-O: just plain charset recognition then? |
| 00:50.43 | gato | fva: It does not only appear, but it keeps disconnecting my network!! I solved the disconnection problem, but I don't want to call and kill unnecessarily a process. |
| 00:51.32 | fva | gato: pinotree already told you how to disable the autostart: "remove its .desktop entry in /etc/xdg/autostart" |
| 00:51.33 | Rudd-O | fva: yes it's algorithmic character recognition |
| 00:52.12 | fva | Rudd-O: i see... i'll try to contact that site's owner about this issue, but i'm not expecting much to happen |
| 00:52.25 | fva | anyway, it's the only page that does that afaik |
| 00:52.44 | gato | fva: Ok, I will try the taskbar again. So, for the network applet, there is NO remove option... my psychiatrist in the institution where I live will be relieved. I will do what pinotree told me (thanks pinotree). |
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| 00:59.52 | gato | fva and pinotree: Thanks for the patience and the suggestions!! Have a good night. |
| 01:00.03 | kronic | is there anyway to change the display coordinates for multiple monitors |
| 01:00.05 | pinotree | good night |
| 01:00.10 | fva | gato: night |
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| 01:00.54 | kronic | I have a monitor to the left of my PC, and in order to move between the two with the mouse I have to go to the left on the monitor which is the reverse |
| 01:01.17 | pinotree | try systemsettings â display |
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| 01:02.56 | kronic | yeah, you can't change the coordinates |
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| 01:04.21 | fva | kronic: if you're using an nvidia card it's pretty easy to fix |
| 01:04.27 | fva | don't know about ati/intel |
| 01:04.31 | kronic | its nvidia |
| 01:04.31 | kronic | yes |
| 01:04.36 | kronic | I have leftof set |
| 01:05.01 | kronic | arhh, nvidia settings app |
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| 01:06.08 | fva | anyone knows where to get the networkmanager plasma applet |
| 01:06.13 | fva | or the kde4 knetworkmanager? |
| 01:06.21 | fva | whichever is more stable right now... |
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| 01:26.35 | untitled_ | hello |
| 01:27.03 | untitled_ | can u tell me wha is that thing in system tray? is shows up when I start conky or firefox.. |
| 01:27.23 | untitled_ | is=it |
| 01:27.50 | untitled_ | KsystrayCmd |
| 01:28.05 | untitled_ | how can I ger rid of it |
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| 01:30.08 | Jucato | untitled_: KDE doesn't have a system tray setup for conky, much less firefox. It might be a distro addition. ksystraycmd is something you have run with an app to put a system tray icon for it if it doesn't have its own. KDE doesn't attach that to any app by default |
| 01:30.34 | untitled_ | ok |
| 01:31.39 | untitled_ | wow I killed it :) |
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| 01:31.57 | untitled_ | just need to figure out how not to start it every time |
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| 01:55.06 | msn | So i configure my entire desktop in kde4/plasma logout and once i log in plasma crashes |
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| 01:58.02 | oneforall | any one rememebr what is is that needs to be fixed when you get could nor open default font 'fixed' 3.5.9 |
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| 02:07.24 | c-101 | Hi there |
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| 02:59.34 | bdizzle_ | hi |
| 03:00.23 | bdizzle_ | does anyone know how to set KDE so that when I hit a keyboard shortcut, it opens the K-menu? I couldn't find it in the keyboard shortcuts list |
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| 03:26.06 | bdizzle | hello |
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| 04:07.41 | junkDawgie | bdizzle: as far as i know there is no keyboard shortcut to open the kmenu.... seems like an obstacle to some (like me) that have a need.. hopefully someone will take three min and fix it sometime |
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| 04:15.35 | Led_Zeppelin | i have just built KDE 4.2.1; However my fonts aren't rendered properly. Is there something I am missing? or some font package I need to compile? |
| 04:16.04 | drantin | 4.2.1? |
| 04:16.13 | drantin | beta 1? |
| 04:16.55 | Led_Zeppelin | sorry, its 4.1.3 |
| 04:17.27 | drantin | I had some problems with the default fonts on here either way, changing to the bitstream vera ones fixed it... |
| 04:17.42 | drantin | some fonts in get hot new stuff weren't showing... |
| 04:17.47 | drantin | and lancelot |
| 04:18.09 | Led_Zeppelin | how do you change or fix this? |
| 04:18.49 | drantin | is that the problem you're having? |
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| 04:19.26 | drantin | systemsettings -> appearances -> fonts iirc... |
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| 04:22.59 | Led_Zeppelin | well, I am exporting KDE remoktly using SSH |
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| 04:48.34 | macjason0607 | kde 4 plasma rocks |
| 04:49.16 | PhrkOnLsh | macjason0607: indeed :) |
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| 04:55.41 | luke-jr | anyone running KDE on a Nokia N810? |
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| 05:18.19 | macjason0607 | PhrkOnLsh, ... how do i make a new desktop |
| 05:18.24 | macjason0607 | do i have to make a pager widget ? |
| 05:19.02 | PhrkOnLsh | macjason0607: you mean with diff plasma widgets, or just so that you can change windows? |
| 05:19.34 | macjason0607 | just to change window |
| 05:19.38 | macjason0607 | and to create a new plasma |
| 05:19.46 | macjason0607 | Phisbut_, there a how to on the plasma ? |
| 05:20.35 | PhrkOnLsh | macjason0607: KDE comes with four desktopsby default... see keys to change them in systemsettings->keyboard and mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> kwin -> Switch to next/previous desktop |
| 05:21.04 | macjason0607 | whats a good faq or guide on the plasma stuff ? |
| 05:21.16 | PhrkOnLsh | as for plasma, clikc the cashew on the desktop (not the panel) and click zoom out, click the cashew and click add activity |
| 05:21.25 | PhrkOnLsh | What is the correct term for the cashew? |
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| 05:23.19 | PhrkOnLsh | irc as root... heh |
| 05:23.46 | PhrkOnLsh | Guest913: irc as root is about as smart as opening a can of tuna with a tiger's claw. |
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| 05:46.14 | PhrkOnLsh | good night. |
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| 05:55.48 | nick01 | hi, anybody knows how to get kword to let me show the templates ? I can only get to chose one if I start it from terminal for some reason |
| 05:55.57 | nick01 | anybody knows whats causing this ? |
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| 06:31.06 | Servercrash | hi, i by mistake removed the kde-pannel, now evertime i restart the system i have to create the pannel, it doesnt come up after reboot. How can i configure that new pannel comes up after reboot |
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| 06:34.33 | freeedrich | sorry, offtopic.. but can someone tell me how to get one single file from a big tar.bz2 archive? |
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| 06:35.26 | mschiff | freeedrich: tar://your/file.tar.bz2 ? |
| 06:35.43 | freeedrich | mschiff: no, tar -xfj |
| 06:37.23 | freeedrich | think I found something |
| 06:37.39 | mschiff | freeedrich: I thought you want to do it with kde ;) |
| 06:37.50 | freeedrich | mschiff: I said "offtopic" :P |
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| 06:56.34 | macjason0607 | guys |
| 06:56.45 | macjason0607 | are there detailed guys on using plasma / kde ? |
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| 07:17.30 | luke-jr | freeedrich: note doing that will require searching the entire tar for the file |
| 07:17.32 | luke-jr | tar has no index |
| 07:17.53 | freeedrich | luke-jr: yeah :/ But I fail at doing so.. |
| 07:18.12 | freeedrich | luke-jr: the file is gentee/var/lib/portage/world |
| 07:18.33 | freeedrich | but tar -x gentee/var/lib/portage/world -v -j -f gentee.tar.bz2 doesn't work |
| 07:19.00 | freeedrich | luke-jr: any idea? :) |
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| 07:23.58 | msn | is there a way to set defaule opacity of all windows |
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| 07:26.40 | marko_d | whats up folks |
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| 07:30.39 | luke-jr | freeedrich: tar xjvpf gentee.tar.bz2 ./gentoo/var/lib/portage/world |
| 07:30.44 | luke-jr | freeedrich: ./ is common |
| 07:31.07 | freeedrich | luke-jr: yeah, found it out already, thank you :) got those mixed up. |
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| 08:36.06 | Dumble | will there be a equivalent of knetworkmanager in KDE 4.2 ? |
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| 08:39.52 | Roland123 | hi. how to make konversation use a http proxy? |
| 08:40.33 | annma | Dumble: was there one in kde3? |
| 08:41.17 | Dumble | annma, yes, knetworkmanager, although it is not part of official KDE |
| 08:41.40 | annma | ah so ask this unofficial devel |
| 08:42.25 | Dumble | wanted just to know if someone knew for an official/unofficial version of this tool (or a remplacement) in KDE 4.2 |
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| 08:45.59 | Dumble | it was initialiy a development of OpenSuSE |
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| 08:54.46 | Jucato | Dumble: it's still a development of openSUSE. and yes, it's in the works |
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| 08:56.17 | annma | ask opensuse then |
| 08:57.50 | cb400f | about? |
| 08:58.18 | Jucato | about something you came in too late to know :) |
| 08:59.41 | cb400f | grrr :-) |
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| 09:09.42 | millun | hi, my colleague wants to turn off all effects in KDE 4. how is that possible? |
| 09:10.03 | cb400f | millun: systemsettings -> desktop -> desktop effects |
| 09:10.08 | annma | what kde version? |
| 09:10.19 | annma | before 4.2 they should be off as default |
| 09:10.27 | cb400f | depends on distro |
| 09:10.27 | annma | if not, distro change |
| 09:10.41 | annma | I speak of KDE vanilla as shipped from KDE |
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| 09:10.57 | annma | the rest is distro channel cb400f |
| 09:11.29 | millun | fedora 10 |
| 09:11.41 | millun | kde 4.1 we think |
| 09:11.42 | Peter_guirguis | fedora9 |
| 09:11.46 | Peter_guirguis | sucks |
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| 09:12.21 | annma | Peter_guirguis: please no such distro bashing, here we talk about KDE |
| 09:12.56 | Roland123 | i'm having random lockups with amarok, which are really annoying |
| 09:13.09 | Roland123 | what could be the cause? |
| 09:13.13 | annma | Roland123: #amarok |
| 09:13.15 | RichiH | if i need to access MS exchange, should I go for kontact in KDE 3 or KDE 4? |
| 09:13.35 | annma | RichiH: ask in #kontact maybe if noone knows here |
| 09:13.36 | Roland123 | annma: tnx |
| 09:13.42 | RichiH | annma: good point, thanks |
| 09:13.52 | annma | :) |
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| 09:17.47 | Peter_guirguis | can i install the latest version of kde on fedora 9 |
| 09:18.41 | millun | thanks, it helped |
| 09:19.19 | millun | can the menu be faster? |
| 09:19.36 | millun | :) |
| 09:19.39 | Peter_guirguis | can i install the latest version of kde on fedora 9 |
| 09:19.55 | annma | ask in #fedora |
| 09:20.03 | millun | Peter_guirguis fedora 10 is out for like a week |
| 09:20.16 | annma | millun: what menu? |
| 09:20.24 | millun | main menu |
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| 09:21.09 | shepherd | Peter_guirguis: You could if you wanted. |
| 09:21.27 | millun | annma it takes like 2-4 seconds to load sub-items |
| 09:21.33 | annma | main K menu? |
| 09:21.38 | millun | yes |
| 09:21.50 | annma | how can you measure the time it takes? |
| 09:22.03 | millun | we just stare at the monitor and wait :) |
| 09:22.13 | millun | for it to display submenu |
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| 09:23.12 | annma | but you don't see submenus |
| 09:23.22 | annma | you mean when you click on it??? |
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| 09:23.28 | annma | I thought at start |
| 09:23.47 | annma | millun: tell me exactly what you do then |
| 09:23.53 | annma | and when you wait |
| 09:24.00 | annma | and what you see when it's up |
| 09:24.19 | millun | clicking 'K' is ok. when you hover over 'Games' or 'Graphics' it takes some time to display applications |
| 09:24.41 | Dumble | Jucato, ok, thank |
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| 09:25.00 | millun | i mean, when you hover over any item of main menu. such as Internet, Games, etc. |
| 09:25.20 | millun | it takes a little long to display applications |
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| 09:26.41 | annma | millun: can you switch to traditional menu to check if it's the same? |
| 09:26.47 | annma | Ican't reproduce here |
| 09:27.10 | millun | annma my colleague switched to traditional menu. (he turned off the effects) |
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| 09:28.00 | millun | if it can't be solved, it's ok. he will have to wait ;) |
| 09:28.27 | annma | weird, did you ask your distro about it? |
| 09:28.40 | annma | is the rest of the desktop OK? |
| 09:28.46 | millun | seems so |
| 09:29.05 | millun | we haven't tried asking in fedora because they would tell us to f off |
| 09:29.10 | millun | :) |
| 09:30.07 | millun | anyway, thanks for the hint how to turn off effects |
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| 10:03.11 | kriko | Why is kio_http_cache_ process for? It is causing massive disk and cpu usage from time to time. |
| 10:03.16 | kriko | kde 4.2 |
| 10:03.36 | freeedrich | probably caches your http requests |
| 10:03.39 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.01 | annma | can you spot the app that triggers it? |
| 10:04.17 | annma | did you try the weather applet btw? |
| 10:04.27 | kriko | annma: maybe ktorrent does that? I'm not sure it just wakes up and spikes up my resources |
| 10:04.48 | kriko | about once at every half hour |
| 10:04.56 | annma | I don't run ktorrent |
| 10:05.09 | annma | can you try to stop it when you have time and see |
| 10:05.15 | kriko | ok |
| 10:05.24 | annma | it's possible taht it is indeed ktorrent |
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| 10:06.01 | kriko | I'll ask at ktorrent - maybe when ktorrent in non-responsive kio_http_cache_ kicks in â is that what is meant for? |
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| 10:07.10 | pinotree | kio_http_cache_cleaner cleans the kde http cache in case it reaches the cache threshold |
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| 10:31.19 | soa2ii | Is it a known bug that you sometimes cannot empty your trashbin but there is smth in it? I use gentoo kde 3.5.9 |
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| 10:36.54 | Peter_guirguis | if downloaded kde 4.13 how big is it |
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| 10:37.35 | Peter_guirguis | if downloaded kde 4.13 how big is it |
| 10:37.53 | annma | download from where? |
| 10:38.12 | annma | from ftp kde, the sizes of the tarballs are indicated |
| 10:38.17 | annma | double them for build |
| 10:38.19 | Peter_guirguis | i am asking how to install it on fedora 9 |
| 10:38.34 | annma | ask in #fedora |
| 10:38.34 | Peter_guirguis | slow net connection |
| 10:38.47 | annma | we do not know all distros here |
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| 11:02.46 | kronic | if you have a nvidia card with twinview, are you able to make a specific monitor desktop 1 for eg. |
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| 11:17.10 | thiago | kronic: use LeftOf and RightOf |
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| 11:26.57 | Tina- | hi all |
| 11:27.48 | Shingoshi | I'm using KDE-4.1.3. Where is the button for the panel to show all of the desktops. I can't see what apps I have on other desktops. Worked fine in 3.5.10. |
| 11:27.50 | Tina- | i wonder if kde4 ever will support X setup with 2 xservers mean like :0.0 and :0.1 |
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| 11:28.32 | Tina- | does 4.2 fixes that? |
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| 11:28.40 | Tina- | 4.1.3 now |
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| 11:29.51 | Tina- | i can use the 2nd sreen with xterm -display :0.1 -e command but that is no fun |
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| 11:30.23 | cb400f | Shingoshi: you mean the taskbar? |
| 11:31.00 | cb400f | right click taskbar -> taskbar settings -> uncheck "show only tasks from current desktop" |
| 11:31.15 | Shingoshi | Yes |
| 11:31.26 | cb400f | if you have effects you may also want to try pressing ctrl+F8 |
| 11:31.48 | cb400f | .. and you can also configure your window-switcher effect to show windows from all desktops |
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| 11:33.09 | cb400f | switching to kde4 from kde3 seems to be much like switching from windows to kde3 used to be.. the first thing you should do is unlearn everything you think you know, but it seems to be the hardest thing in the world to do |
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| 11:37.50 | scarabeus | is akonadi supposed to compile when i wont use nepomuk? |
| 11:38.30 | scarabeus | here is behavior in beta: https://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=174147 -> build.log.gz |
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| 11:40.18 | marcelo | exit |
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| 11:41.16 | Shingoshi | cb400f: Will that give me the icon I'm talking about. I don't want all apps from every desktop showing on each desktop. I want the popup that shows me where they are on other desktops. |
| 11:42.38 | cb400f | and I want people to realize that kde4 is not kde3, but you can't always get what you want :-) |
| 11:43.16 | Shingoshi | I don't like things missing from the systemsettings that were present in KDE3. It has made KDE4 marginal in it's usability. |
| 11:43.17 | cb400f | .. but as I said there are other ways to achive the goal.. like the desktop grid effect |
| 11:43.39 | Shingoshi | What's the grid? |
| 11:43.51 | cb400f | ctrl+f8 if you have effects enable |
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| 11:44.46 | Shingoshi | I have the effects enabled, and I still don't have that. |
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| 11:45.16 | cb400f | hrmpf.. check the desktop effects settings then |
| 11:45.28 | cb400f | was sure desktop grid was on by default :-( |
| 11:45.47 | marcelo | anyone has experience with SAPGUI for Linux? |
| 11:47.56 | rdale | is there any way to make okular work with adding a digital signature to a pdf? |
| 11:47.56 | Shingoshi | I just checked. And I have the grid active as well. But nothing happens with ctl-f8 |
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| 12:06.12 | cb400f | Shingoshi: then check in the settings for that effect which shortcut is configured |
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| 12:08.31 | Led_Zeppelin | i have just built KDE 4.1.3; However my fonts aren't rendered properly. Is there something I am missing? or some font package I need to compile? BTW, I am using ssh -X to get to my kde apps, for example: kwrite |
| 12:08.34 | Led_Zeppelin | any ideas? |
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| 12:13.17 | Sho_ | Led_Zeppelin: "Aren't rendered properly" is a bit vague. Maybe you could show us a screenshot? There are also various nVidia driver versions with font corruption issues on various GPU generations, fwiw |
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| 12:13.45 | iro | font corruptions with nvidia series 6 and 7 fixed with versione 180.11 |
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| 12:17.01 | iro | does anyone know a way to hide the line that separates the window decorations with the rest of the window (ozone and oxygen themes)? I find it unaesthetic... |
| 12:17.38 | Sho_ | not without hacking the source |
| 12:18.35 | iro | d'oh |
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| 12:19.21 | tuxick | how am i supposed to move widgets to the right of panel in kde4? |
| 12:19.26 | tuxick | they snap back to center |
| 12:19.35 | tuxick | not very intuitive :) |
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| 12:20.44 | Illusioneer | is anybody else getting this problem with konqueror 4.1: |
| 12:21.01 | Illusioneer | you can't change almost any settings because it says "kcm_konqhtml" not found |
| 12:21.10 | Illusioneer | problem is I can't find any package that contains this in apt-get |
| 12:21.17 | Illusioneer | is this a library? |
| 12:21.39 | Jucato | yes. it shouldn't be a separate pacakge and should be installed by default. please ask your distro what package provides it |
| 12:22.05 | Illusioneer | kubuntu, and already checked, no such package |
| 12:22.12 | Illusioneer | i would think it'd be standard |
| 12:22.24 | Illusioneer | though my 3.5.9 has no such problem so i think this is kde4 specific |
| 12:22.58 | Jucato | it is distro specific |
| 12:23.04 | Jucato | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kcm_konqhtml&mode=filename&suite=intrepid&arch=any |
| 12:23.13 | Jucato | please ask in #kubuntu for further information |
| 12:23.20 | Illusioneer | ok |
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| 12:28.22 | Led_Zeppelin | iro, what version is that? |
| 12:28.26 | Led_Zeppelin | is that in stable or head? |
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| 12:30.42 | yacc | What replaced the dcop cmdline tool for communicating with apps in KDE4.1? |
| 12:31.29 | Jucato | dbus (qdbus) |
| 12:32.24 | Ivo_Helory | is anybody there use fedora on macbook? |
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| 12:32.49 | Jucato | Ivo_Helory: try asking in #fedora |
| 12:33.34 | Ivo_Helory | thanks :) |
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| 12:38.56 | neeewbie | anyone here use kde 4.1 and emerald at the same time? |
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| 12:39.12 | Jucato | perhaps someone in #compiz-fusion |
| 12:40.22 | neeewbie | ty |
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| 12:49.15 | iro | Led_Zeppelin, about 180.11? It's an nvidia driver version |
| 12:50.18 | tuxick | i lost my "desktops" widget |
| 12:50.26 | tuxick | what's the name and/or how to get it back? |
| 12:50.27 | Led_Zeppelin | well, would the nvidia driver still be a problem if I was ssh -X to a server which has my kde binaries? or is it my client's nvdia driver? |
| 12:50.35 | werdnum | haha, try this |
| 12:50.36 | werdnum | export PS1='C:${PWD//\//\\\}>' |
| 12:51.47 | iro | Led_Zeppelin: sorry, I don't know how remote X works. |
| 12:52.16 | Kame2 | tuxick: the name is folderview |
| 12:52.47 | tuxick | really? the panel widget that shows my active/nonactive desktops? |
| 12:52.59 | Kame2 | oh |
| 12:53.00 | Kame2 | sorry |
| 12:53.24 | Kame2 | you mean the thing to switch your virtual desktops? |
| 12:53.25 | tuxick | forgot to mention it's kde4 btw |
| 12:53.34 | Theory | The "Pager" ? |
| 12:53.37 | tuxick | well i don't use it for that, i just look at it |
| 12:53.41 | tuxick | that could be |
| 12:54.22 | tuxick | yes thanks, that's the one |
| 12:54.40 | tuxick | i must find me a theme where "add widgets" dialog is readable again |
| 12:54.58 | tuxick | white on white won't really work |
| 12:55.40 | tuxick | haha now i don't see how to remove widget :) |
| 12:55.50 | tuxick | ok |
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| 13:26.20 | zizzfizzix | nepomuk* |
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| 13:27.40 | Gentle` | zizzfizzix: systemsettings advanced tab, desktop search |
| 13:30.06 | zizzfizzix | Gentle`, thanks |
| 13:31.32 | mhlavink | Hi, session manager has "restore manually saved session", but where can I save session in 4.1.3? (in 3.5.10 it was in right-click on desktop) |
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| 13:32.10 | annma | save session is in 4.2 |
| 13:32.19 | annma | you can do it with dbus meanwhile |
| 13:33.00 | mhlavink | Oh, so I'm not blind. Thanks :) |
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| 13:34.23 | annma | dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession |
| 13:34.30 | annma | if you want to manually save |
| 13:34.47 | vbgunz | anybody know how I can get a Gnome theme to take on the same color as my current KDE scheme? |
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| 13:35.47 | Jucato | qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer saveCurrentSession |
| 13:36.20 | mhlavink | annma: thanks, it's realy appreciated |
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| 14:36.32 | marco_ | where can i handle sound events? |
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| 14:49.41 | neverendingo | marco_: systemsettings -> notifications, if you mean that. |
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| 14:51.37 | scsiraider | how do i change teh digital clock in kde4 to 12hour format |
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| 14:52.18 | eguven | Hi! |
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| 14:52.41 | kamel__ | salut tt le monde |
| 14:52.42 | Jucato | scsiraider: System Settings --> Regional & Language |
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| 14:53.10 | Jucato | Times & Dates tab. it will take time for changes to apply |
| 14:53.18 | scsiraider | thanks |
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| 14:54.18 | scsiraider | Jucato: you should be able to change that from the clock applet too |
| 14:54.40 | Jucato | don't tell me. :) |
| 14:54.57 | pinotree | this is a global kde setting, not specific to the clock applet |
| 14:55.58 | scsiraider | right, but most users are used to being able to change the clock format from the clock, if I was writing this, the date functions would be part of some api that any kde app could access/change |
| 14:56.26 | scsiraider | but i got it changed |
| 14:56.31 | scsiraider | thanks for the help |
| 14:57.18 | pinotree | how many times do you change the format of the clock? each hour? each day? or, more concretely, at most once every 2/3 months? |
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| 14:57.50 | pinotree | thus, not worth being put in the clock configuration (other than because it is not specific to the clock) |
| 14:58.35 | scsiraider | pinotree: im just saying it should be easier to find that all |
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| 14:58.59 | pinotree | it is already in the global configuration of the locale |
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| 15:04.20 | marco_ | where can i handle sound events? |
| 15:04.40 | FoxM | How can I add a jar program to the KDE Menu? |
| 15:04.50 | pinotree | marco_: systemsettings â notifications |
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| 15:07.02 | annma | mamr: #amarok |
| 15:07.02 | frodus | I want to build an RPM; where can I get a script for add my software to the K-menu? |
| 15:07.12 | mamr | sorry, annma |
| 15:07.17 | mamr | thanks :) |
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| 15:07.30 | annma | frodus: K menu is build from .desktop files |
| 15:07.42 | annma | following freeDesktop standards |
| 15:07.51 | frodus | ok |
| 15:08.00 | frodus | tnx |
| 15:08.07 | annma | as is also Gnome menu |
| 15:08.15 | frodus | ok |
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| 15:09.43 | FoxM | How can I add a jar program to the KDE Menu? |
| 15:10.51 | annma | with menu editor |
| 15:11.02 | annma | like any other program |
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| 15:13.25 | FoxM | annma: But I did just that, and it does not work. :( the command is '/home/user/.dir/program.jar' and nothing happens. I also changed the file associations to run the program with the Sun Java Runtime |
| 15:13.26 | zubair_ | #Fedora |
| 15:14.20 | annma | zubair_: write /join #fedora |
| 15:14.33 | annma | or click on the blue #fedora |
| 15:14.55 | annma | FoxM: can you execute it when you click on it in a file manager? |
| 15:15.51 | FoxM | Yes :( |
| 15:16.01 | FoxM | annma: Yes :( |
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| 15:18.20 | annma | so file association is already good |
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| 15:20.25 | FoxM | annma: wait... I have to try something.... when I single-click on it, it opens an Ark preview.... I have to do right-click and then select the Sun Java Runtime.... let me close KDE to see if it has not been properly updated, because in the File Association Dialog, it already appears with the runtime as first priority |
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| 15:20.42 | annma | ah see |
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| 15:33.53 | Skept | Hi, is there a way to change the color scheming of akregator? |
| 15:34.10 | annma | part of KDE whole theme |
| 15:34.21 | annma | no individual way |
| 15:34.29 | Skept | I mean, how akregator displays feeds |
| 15:34.48 | Skept | I can barely read the blue letters on a grey background |
| 15:35.12 | annma | grey background? |
| 15:35.55 | Skept | It displays feeds alternatively in white and grey bands. Unread news is blue colored |
| 15:36.16 | scsiraider | anyone know if ksynaptics is being ported for kde4 |
| 15:36.38 | annma | is that kde3 Skept? |
| 15:36.46 | annma | what is ksynaptics? |
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| 15:37.01 | annma | is it in kde svn repository? |
| 15:37.19 | pinotree | last i heard (more than one year ago), it was no more developed |
| 15:37.38 | Skept | annma: KDE 3.5 |
| 15:37.48 | annma | ah Skept I have KDE 4 here |
| 15:38.01 | antonio_ | hi+ |
| 15:38.21 | annma | you can change unread and read articles colors in kde4 |
| 15:38.29 | annma | i.e. red and blue |
| 15:38.38 | annma | Skept: ^^ |
| 15:38.47 | Skept | No, I want to get rid of the bands |
| 15:38.48 | annma | so I guess that would be an improvement already |
| 15:38.54 | annma | I don't have them |
| 15:39.37 | annma | they are gone in default listviews |
| 15:40.03 | Skept | Ah, kde4. Actually my debian lenny install says that my system is upgraded to kde4. But some packages are still in kde3, I think. Its too confusing how it does it |
| 15:40.06 | Skept | Gotcha |
| 15:40.42 | Skept | For example, my ktorrent says its kde 4.1.3 |
| 15:40.51 | annma | you can have boths |
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| 15:41.22 | Skept | Thats what I thought |
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| 15:43.07 | scsiraider | annma: ksynaptics is a touchpad control tool |
| 15:43.07 | cjcbot2001 | ÓÐÈËÂ𣿠|
| 15:43.42 | cjcbot2001 | ÓÐÈËÂ𣿠|
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| 15:44.09 | pinotree | cjcbot2001: english please |
| 15:44.20 | cjcbot2001 | thanks |
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| 15:44.40 | cjcbot2001 | i want change my name ,can you help me ? |
| 15:45.13 | Skept | Try /nick new-name |
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| 15:46.09 | arbiter | thanks |
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| 15:46.28 | FoxM | annma: Hi. I can open now jar files by double-clicking in konqueror file viewer... but still I added the jar file to KDE Menu editor and the program does not open :( |
| 15:48.57 | freeedrich | FoxM: add a desktop entry for it then |
| 15:49.12 | arbiter | where are you from? |
| 15:49.14 | annma | freeedrich: the menu editor does exactly that |
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| 15:49.24 | Skept | How do you run the jar file? javac jar.jar? |
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| 15:49.47 | annma | is clueless about .jar |
| 15:49.54 | arbiter | any one eals? |
| 15:50.10 | arbiter | i am chinese |
| 15:50.14 | annma | he said with Sun Java Runtime Skept |
| 15:50.38 | Skept | Sorry |
| 15:50.42 | freeedrich | arbiter: you are probably not the only one :P |
| 15:51.04 | freeedrich | I mean.. statistically every third one in here should be one too. |
| 15:51.05 | Skept | chuckles @ freeedrich |
| 15:51.07 | arbiter | nice to meet you |
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| 15:52.35 | arbiter | i used irc soft 10 years ago |
| 15:54.08 | FoxM | annma: Skept: thanks for the help. I did a Desktop Config file (right click -> Create New -> Link to App) with a link to the jar file. It does not work... I then dragged the actual jar file to the desktop and selected to ''Link here" and it does work... |
| 15:54.23 | annma | hey cool |
| 15:54.29 | annma | :) |
| 15:55.11 | FoxM | annma: :P But I want the icon in KDE Menu, not in my desktop :( :P hahahaha |
| 15:56.46 | annma | ah ;) |
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| 15:57.20 | annma | you can drag from menu to desktop but I don't think you can drag the other way |
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| 15:57.53 | vbgunz | How can I make vim the embedded viewer in Konqueror? |
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| 15:58.31 | annma | embedded viewer? |
| 15:58.42 | cga | FoxM: use menu edit |
| 15:59.24 | annma | vim is not an app |
| 15:59.33 | annma | it needs konsole vbgunz |
| 15:59.34 | vbgunz | annma: yeah, when you say preview file inline, you can edit the file... How can I get the editor to be vim, is this possible? |
| 15:59.41 | spawn57 | hi folks, have any of you tried uploading photos to facebook using konqueror? |
| 15:59.50 | annma | is vim an app as such vbgunz |
| 16:00.07 | spawn57 | it's a java app, but the java console is reporting an error everytime I try.. |
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| 16:01.36 | vbgunz | annma: I agree it needs a console to be of any use. so, I cannot use vim as the embedded viewer? |
| 16:03.08 | vbgunz | e.g., right clicking on a text file in konqueror in file mode you get the option of 'preview in embedded advanced text editor'... just the editor isn't really so advanced and just prefer vim for it *but* I don't know how to get it to be vim :( |
| 16:03.17 | annma | can you use it to open any file in konqueror |
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| 16:03.44 | mx-tvt | hey... I'm using kde4 svn. is there any way to get the old dialog boxes when transfering files instead of the pop-up in plasma tray? because if plasma crashes you can't monitor the transfer.a nd plasma still crashes a bit |
| 16:03.55 | annma | preview in konsole with vim |
| 16:04.19 | vbgunz | annma: on 3.5.10 I had every text set up to open Yakuake which then opened vim on the file... I plan on doing that again *but* have to switch every dcop call to a dbus call... been putting it off |
| 16:04.23 | annma | not sure it's possible, how would you specify vim to bash? |
| 16:04.40 | annma | so do it that way |
| 16:05.05 | vbgunz | ok, but how would you change the embedded viewer if you could? is there an option for it anywhere? |
| 16:05.33 | annma | as I said, you can call konsole but what then? |
| 16:05.47 | annma | embedded viewer is a mime type |
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| 16:07.24 | vbgunz | annma: I am curious. I thought I could get my embedded viewer to be vim. it shouldn't be impossible. am asking for some help/hint/clue to any possibilities. I don't know what embedded viewer is as a mime type :( |
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| 16:08.13 | vbgunz | subviewer? |
| 16:08.17 | vbgunz | heh, I'll play |
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| 16:08.20 | annma | vim is not an app persee |
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| 16:09.39 | pinotree | vbgunz: you cannot embed an app in konqueror as it is, it needs kde integration |
| 16:10.05 | pinotree | vbgunz: you want to look for the yzis project, although it is not that active... |
| 16:10.27 | vbgunz | pinotree: thank you. I see kwrite I believe is the only kpart editor on the system. not sure if that is correct |
| 16:10.48 | pinotree | most probably it is |
| 16:11.04 | sidh | hello everybody |
| 16:11.08 | sidh | i REALLY need your help |
| 16:11.12 | sidh | i have 2 cache-imap account |
| 16:11.19 | sidh | when i compare the webmail and kmail , a lot of mails are missing in webmail |
| 16:11.22 | sidh | how to synchronize ? |
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| 16:27.22 | Roland123 | i need help... the big K icon disappeared from the taskbar, how can i get it back |
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| 16:27.33 | annma | from the panel |
| 16:27.39 | annma | kde version? |
| 16:28.53 | Roland123 | 4.1 |
| 16:28.58 | Roland123 | jeah from the panel |
| 16:29.09 | annma | right click on desktop -> add widgets |
| 16:29.23 | annma | there's the K menu icon, drag it to its location |
| 16:29.38 | vbgunz | how do you get the value of a property in dbus... I keep getting unknown method... I am trying to get a property |
| 16:29.57 | Roland123 | annma: which one? |
| 16:30.23 | Roland123 | ok... |
| 16:30.24 | annma | top first |
| 16:30.31 | annma | second one is classical |
| 16:30.35 | vbgunz | the call on the command line looks like this... qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/MainWindow_1 com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget visible ... I am trying to find out if Yakuake is visible. |
| 16:30.40 | annma | you can switch anyway with right click |
| 16:31.01 | annma | vbgunz: use qdbusviewer to test |
| 16:31.20 | Roland123 | annma: previously i tried to drag it directly to the panel (that didn't work) |
| 16:31.35 | annma | that should work |
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| 16:31.44 | Roland123 | jeah it worked, thnx |
| 16:32.10 | vbgunz | annma: yes, qdbusviewer returns the correct result... I don't know how to really use dbus, took a short tutorial on it but am failing to simply get a property... it thinks I am trying to call a method... how do I get a property on the command line? |
| 16:33.19 | annma | I don't have yakuake so I don't knwo for it |
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| 16:35.09 | vbgunz | this is as deep as I can go and I get this back on the command line: 'property readwrite bool com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.visible' ... now, how do I tack that onto: qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/MainWindow_1 |
| 16:35.42 | vbgunz | qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/MainWindow_1 com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.visible ... returns no such method, etc :( |
| 16:36.20 | vbgunz | no such method 'visible'... but it works from qdbusviewer :( |
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| 16:50.31 | vbgunz | anybody here know how to get a property from dbus at all? can anyone help me out? qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/MainWindow_1 com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.visible ... no such method 'visible' ... awesome, its a property, how to get it!? |
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| 16:59.08 | vbgunz | qdbus org.kde.yakuake /yakuake/MainWindow_1 org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get '' visible |
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| 17:04.32 | oipat | When I try to set my Keyboard Layout to Norwegian, my arrow keys stop functioning. My xorg.conf file has the correct settings for my country, but KDE seems to ignore those. Help? |
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| 17:06.25 | oipat | Or, how can I make KDE use the keyboard settings from xorg.conf instead_ |
| 17:06.27 | oipat | ? |
| 17:08.23 | cb400f | do you set the keyboard layout in kde systemsettings? |
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| 17:14.46 | Skept | Hi, how can I migrate the feeds and articles from .kde3 to .kde4? |
| 17:14.55 | Skept | akregator's, I meant |
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| 17:18.45 | annma | Skept: did you ry just copying the config files over? |
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| 17:19.43 | Skept | No, from .kde3 folder? |
| 17:20.15 | annma | .kde or .kde3 depending on your distro |
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| 17:26.23 | Skept | annma: Super. I have copied apps/akregator to .kde4 and its working. Thanks a lot |
| 17:26.28 | annma | :) |
| 17:26.51 | vbgunz | I guess one more question. how can you check if a service is running in dbus? |
| 17:26.59 | Skept | I got rid of the bands too. |
| 17:27.16 | annma | :) |
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| 17:28.45 | Skept | One last question, how can I get the kde3 look in kde4? |
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| 17:31.46 | annma | the kde3 look, what was the default style in kde3? |
| 17:32.05 | annma | open kcontrol and find out what style/theme you were using |
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| 17:39.38 | thiago_home | select Plastique |
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| 17:44.59 | damada | pinotree, hi, do you remember our conversation from yesterday? I could provide a PDF which is *horribly* slow on okular |
| 17:45.52 | pinotree | damada: hi... please open a bug on https://bugs.freedesktop.org, "poppler" product; remember to note the version of your poppler-qt4 library |
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| 17:46.20 | damada | have a look here, pinotree : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/4/42/WikiPress_9_DTP_professionell.pdf |
| 17:46.40 | damada | maybe it doesnt't make sense to open a report |
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| 17:49.39 | gkiagia | what do you mean by "horribly slow"? it's quite fast |
| 17:50.02 | damada | gkiagia, really? do you really tell me that okular is fast on that file for you? |
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| 17:50.14 | lpjhjdh | can kdm be loaded before dbus? |
| 17:50.38 | gkiagia | damada: yep. I see no slowness at all |
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| 17:51.12 | damada | gkiagia, pls don't get offended, but after some months now of using okular, I really don't buy the story of it being faster than kpdf... it definitely is! scrolling is a pain, as is zooming. |
| 17:51.15 | luke-jr | when is okular ever NOT slow? :/ |
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| 17:51.23 | damada | maybe it is related to openSUSE? I can't tell really |
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| 17:51.42 | annma | this document is really fact |
| 17:51.45 | annma | fast |
| 17:51.51 | annma | no probelm here as well |
| 17:51.56 | gkiagia | damada: what version of poppler do you have? |
| 17:52.06 | annma | scrolling is as fast as possible |
| 17:52.06 | damada | what is going wrong here then for me? |
| 17:52.18 | damada | really envies both of you! |
| 17:52.22 | annma | your poppler version? |
| 17:52.32 | damada | sec, let me check |
| 17:52.38 | annma | zoom is also fast |
| 17:52.40 | luke-jr | ok, weird |
| 17:52.44 | luke-jr | that PDF is quite fast, for Okular |
| 17:52.52 | luke-jr | *most* PDFs aren't very fast |
| 17:52.54 | luke-jr | in Okular |
| 17:53.05 | gkiagia | lol |
| 17:53.24 | luke-jr | but *that* PDF, is quite snappy |
| 17:53.31 | gkiagia | everybody with a different statement... |
| 17:53.37 | damada | hmmm..... could it be that is is less fast when $HOME is on an NFS server? |
| 17:53.54 | luke-jr | if so, it's a bug ⺠|
| 17:54.03 | damada | I definitely have problems with about every document exceeding 10k or so |
| 17:54.03 | pinotree | everything is slower when on nts |
| 17:54.20 | gkiagia | btw, I guess that the nvidia issues could also apply here.... |
| 17:54.33 | damada | of course, but it shouldn't be so much slower than what KPDF did for me |
| 17:54.42 | damada | gkiagia, pinotree thinks not |
| 17:54.47 | annma | it depends if only okular is slow here damada |
| 17:54.58 | damada | annma, else I have no issues with that |
| 17:55.02 | thiago_home | NFS is extremely slow compared to local disks |
| 17:55.05 | pinotree | note he didn't say anything about graphics driver |
| 17:55.06 | annma | or if other viewing like big pics or whatever are also slow |
| 17:55.23 | damada | (I don't count the dolphin crashes on remote samba shares) |
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| 17:55.27 | annma | damada: what about pdfs on normal partitions? |
| 17:55.43 | gkiagia | so, damada 1) check your poppler version, 2) try copying this file locally, 3) ensure that you are not using the nvidia binary driver ;) |
| 17:55.44 | annma | what about that pdf elsewhere? |
| 17:55.49 | annma | yes |
| 17:55.50 | damada | annma, everything else is as fast as I would expect with Gigabit networking... |
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| 17:55.54 | annma | be scientific about it |
| 17:55.57 | damada | annma, let me check |
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| 17:56.03 | thiago_home | damada: network = much slower than disk |
| 17:56.06 | thiago_home | whichever network it is |
| 17:56.12 | annma | yes |
| 17:56.29 | thiago_home | put the file on a tmpfs to avoid any I/O issues |
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| 17:57.32 | damada | thiago, thanks but I am no total computer noob :) |
| 17:57.56 | damada | OK no difference when I put it on a local partition |
| 17:58.01 | damada | same slowness |
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| 17:58.17 | damada | that very document is slow to the point that I can't navigate is |
| 17:58.18 | James296 | ok, is it possible to prevent the taskbar icons on the far right from constantly getting "boxed" automatically? |
| 17:59.05 | damada | this is what I have with respect to poppler: poppler-tools-0.8.7-1.30 libpoppler-qt4-3-0.8.7-1.30 libpoppler3-0.8.7-1.30 libpoppler-glib3-0.8.7-1.30 |
| 17:59.35 | James296 | does anyone know what Im talking about? |
| 18:00.17 | damada | James296, no, but I think you are experiencing some graphics driver bug :) |
| 18:00.46 | damada | you mean you have the icons in the systray with some weird background? |
| 18:00.52 | James296 | yes |
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| 18:01.01 | damada | and sometimes they look OK? |
| 18:01.07 | James296 | exactly |
| 18:01.11 | damada | nvidia? |
| 18:01.20 | James296 | Geforce 8500GT |
| 18:01.21 | damada | there you go :) |
| 18:01.40 | James296 | isnt Nvidia more stable than ATI though? |
| 18:01.58 | damada | I thought so, too, but seems no longer the case :) |
| 18:02.09 | James296 | are you kidding me... |
| 18:02.22 | damada | is not happy with his FX5200 |
| 18:02.27 | damada | not any more :) |
| 18:02.40 | James296 | I'll never go to ATI |
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| 18:02.58 | lpjhjdh | I think the main issue is that nvidia feels the need to role everything themselves |
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| 18:03.32 | James296 | has anyone here ever tried OpenSolaris? |
| 18:03.35 | damada | it seems to me that a lot changed with KDE4, and nvidia is not keeping up pace... my Intel i855 graphics chip from the stone age performs almost as fast with compositing as the FX5200 |
| 18:04.17 | James296 | well I bet this problem should be fixed in version 4.2 should I be correct here? |
| 18:04.36 | damada | how can it if it is related to some proprietary driver? |
| 18:04.51 | lpjhjdh | anyone know if kdm requires dbus to be running? Or can dbus start after kdm? |
| 18:04.59 | thiago_home | the new 180 drivers from NVidia seem to have caught up |
| 18:04.59 | James296 | maybe a newer version of the driver will be out then? |
| 18:05.04 | damada | I hope so, too, but I doubt it... |
| 18:05.05 | thiago_home | lpjhjdh: kdm doesn't require nor use D-Bus |
| 18:05.12 | lpjhjdh | thanks |
| 18:05.13 | thiago_home | lpjhjdh: startkde starts it if necessary |
| 18:05.26 | Sput | my nvidia performs acceptable with the 180 drivers |
| 18:05.45 | damada | back to my poppler issue: is anything wrong with the installed packages? |
| 18:06.11 | James296 | so that tastbar Box problem is related to my graphics driver even if I dont have 3D acceleration enabled? |
| 18:06.39 | damada | as I said: about every PDF there is is very slow with Okular, and when I open the same with KPDF/KDE3 it flies... so there *must* be something wrong, either in KDE4 or here on my box |
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| 18:07.07 | damada | but then: I have this issue on four totally different boxes with KDE 4.1.3... |
| 18:07.39 | damada | and half of them are laptop with local partitions only, so it is not a networking problem |
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| 18:10.58 | James296 | I cant wait for version 4.2 to be released... |
| 18:11.31 | James296 | how do I check in Mandriva 2009 what version of KDE Im currently running lol, it seems hard to find that out in KDE 4 |
| 18:12.11 | damada | try the About info of any KDE app or your choice :) |
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| 18:12.35 | gkiagia | damada: that's the same poppler version I have, wierd... |
| 18:12.36 | James296 | ahhh that helps lol |
| 18:12.42 | damada | by default it is 4.1.2, James296 |
| 18:12.44 | gkiagia | blames nvidia (as always...) |
| 18:12.50 | James296 | I have 4.1.3 |
| 18:13.08 | damada | gkiagia, I am just checking on #opensuse-kde... maybe it is a packaging problem |
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| 18:13.57 | damada | if no one of you guys are on openSUSE 11.0 or 11.1devel, and do not have a slow okular, than it seems even more likely to me |
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| 18:15.06 | James296 | personally I find Opensuse 11 to be very buggy to my liking |
| 18:15.50 | damada | really? Personally, I really find it has one of the best integrations of KDE :) besides Mandriva |
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| 18:16.25 | damada | the only buggy component is NetworkManager... that crap tool should be buried better now than later |
| 18:16.25 | Dumble | hello world |
| 18:16.30 | James296 | it does have very neat things in it, and thats why Im gonna try it again once 11.1 is released |
| 18:16.49 | Dumble | juste installed KDE 4.2Ã1 and it rocks ! |
| 18:16.54 | damada | I really do feel well on 11.1RC1 |
| 18:17.06 | James296 | I JUST recently tried it again and Im still not likin it |
| 18:17.19 | hyper_ch | damada: WICD |
| 18:17.24 | damada | James296, I doubt that you will ever like it then... |
| 18:17.30 | damada | hyper_ch, ? |
| 18:17.38 | hyper_ch | damada: alternate network manager |
| 18:17.44 | hyper_ch | damada: I use now that oneforal |
| 18:17.47 | hyper_ch | oneforall: that one |
| 18:17.51 | luke-jr | also concurs that NetworkManager should be buried, or perhaps better: turned into a standard interface between different componetns |
| 18:17.54 | hyper_ch | oneforall: before I did config network manually |
| 18:17.58 | damada | hyper_ch, aha? what clients does it have? one for KDE4, too? |
| 18:18.03 | damada | and for CLI? |
| 18:18.07 | hyper_ch | damada: it's a python script |
| 18:18.09 | James296 | well Im certain it will be a piece of cake to update the graphics driver for my Nvidia card to 177x |
| 18:18.15 | hyper_ch | damada: so works on kde and gnome |
| 18:18.24 | James296 | it was a pain to do that on version 11 and I gave up |
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| 18:19.37 | damada | James296, if you are not fine with the supplied driver in the supported repo, then all you can do is manually install the driver.. but I can not confirm that this is difficult |
| 18:20.53 | James296 | I tried to manually install it and ran into so many issues that could make me chance makin the packages be broken |
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| 18:21.39 | damada | ? all you need it the kernel source and the compiler set... just install the base devel pattern and that should give you all you need |
| 18:21.58 | damada | and then run the installer from a non-graphical runlevel... |
| 18:22.28 | James296 | complicated...Im a novice linux user I dont understand how to get into that great of detail, I refulse to have to compile anything... |
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| 18:22.38 | James296 | refuse* |
| 18:22.40 | vbgunz | what is the easiest way to associate a program with every text file possible? I remember doing this on 3 but they're has to be an easier way to do it :/ |
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| 18:23.26 | vbgunz | I mean, I painstakingly went through every file association looking for text editors... then, inserting my program into the mix... I think this even ended up littering my associations... |
| 18:23.36 | damada | James296, then you are in trouble of course: the module must match your kernel, so some installer script must compile it against your running kernel. but all you have to do is call the script and press confirm a couple times |
| 18:25.35 | vbgunz | I guess, probably what I am looking for is, is there a simpler way to associate a program with certain extensions and file types? I basically would like to switch out my current default text editor for another |
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| 18:28.48 | annma | you can maybe open vim for text |
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| 18:29.01 | annma | but you cannot put vim into konqueror as it's not a kpart |
| 18:29.07 | hyper_ch | vbgunz: kde4 has the file association in the systemsettings |
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| 18:30.28 | vbgunz | hyper_ch: yeah. I know that, this is sort of exactly what I mean dreading to go through... last time, I went through every entry and one-by-one had to **add** my program to the list... am sort of dreading doing this again and was hoping there was an easier way |
| 18:30.46 | annma | ? |
| 18:30.55 | annma | every entry??? |
| 18:31.00 | annma | explain that? |
| 18:31.01 | hyper_ch | vbgunz: edit the according config file? |
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| 18:31.23 | annma | usually you don't have a lot of extensions associated with a prog |
| 18:31.23 | vbgunz | annma: I got my script up and running for dbus. on 3.5.10, anytime I clicked on a file that I could edit, the script launched Yakuake which then in turn opened the file in vim... I loved it. am trying to do it again |
| 18:31.37 | annma | I get that |
| 18:31.43 | annma | you're mixing several issues |
| 18:32.51 | vbgunz | trying to get my editor of choice to launch which by chance is vim is mixing several issues? all I am looking for now is an easier way to associate, text documents with all sorts of extensions to open in Yakuake/vim |
| 18:33.42 | vbgunz | unless there is a catchall text/document extension... I am not very well with mime-types, and stuff :( |
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| 18:34.14 | damada | OK have to leave, server reboot :) |
| 18:35.19 | vbgunz | hmm. this time, I only associated the prog with plain-text, that seems to be opening up several different extensions so far... sweet |
| 18:35.28 | annma | what extensions do you want to be opened? |
| 18:35.30 | vbgunz | I just remember this being painful... |
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| 18:36.07 | annma | just add in text general the extensions you want, I already have .txt .doc (stupid) .asc |
| 18:36.44 | vbgunz | annma: I remember having trouble opening up .css, .js, .json, .xml, .py and others. I remember just always having to go into file associations until the day I went through every extension I could |
| 18:36.58 | vbgunz | this seems to be good so far and is working just right :) |
| 18:36.58 | annma | try adding them in general |
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| 18:38.29 | vbgunz | damn... I am getting taskbar entries for these lauches... thats nuts :/ |
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| 18:39.14 | annma | why is it? |
| 18:39.19 | _juan | hi! what script tells x to start with kde or with any other window mnager? |
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| 18:49.53 | vbgunz | annma: not sure why I am getting task bar entries... these taskbar entries are pointing to my script which has no interface :/ I must have solved this before by skipping taskbar or something |
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| 18:50.24 | untitled_ | hello, is anyone here using kde 4.1.3 on debian? |
| 18:50.55 | Pooh22 | hi, I've just installed fedora 10 on my new acer aspire one, but everything (in kde4) looks huge, it doesn't fit on my tiny screen :-( what can I do? |
| 18:51.29 | untitled_ | Pooh22, was the netbook with windows? |
| 18:51.40 | Pooh22 | no, linpus linux |
| 18:51.49 | untitled_ | Pooh22, is it bad? |
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| 18:52.19 | Pooh22 | linpus? quite bad ;-) |
| 18:52.35 | Pooh22 | no seriously, I'm not the target audience for it... |
| 18:53.10 | untitled_ | Pooh22, just want to buy one, so interested what is not good about its linux? |
| 18:54.01 | Pooh22 | untitled_: it's based on an older fedora and the package selection is very limited |
| 18:54.15 | Pooh22 | have a look at the linpus website (I think it was linpus.com) |
| 18:54.33 | Pooh22 | it's not meant for serious linux users, but for appliances |
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| 18:55.02 | Pooh22 | but I think that's a given for all the linux netbooks |
| 18:55.06 | untitled_ | I see, is there an irc and msn/icq client? |
| 18:55.43 | Pooh22 | I guess msn/icq would be there (I can't boot linpus at the moment, due to a failed resizing experiment ;-) |
| 18:55.57 | untitled_ | =] |
| 18:56.40 | Pooh22 | I tried to make a dual boot linpus fedora system, but the default install/rescue install uses the entire 120G disk |
| 18:57.01 | Pooh22 | so to install fedora I had to resize it (using resize2fs and then the partition) |
| 18:57.16 | vbgunz | yeah, thats just fubar... everytime I launch open a text file, the script itself goes into the taskbar... it goes away by itself after a while... I cannot fix it :( |
| 18:58.02 | untitled_ | Pooh22, 20GB ssd? |
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| 18:59.14 | Pooh22 | 120gb hdd |
| 18:59.37 | untitled_ | I wonder if ssd is any faster that hdd in there.. |
| 18:59.51 | untitled_ | it is not real ssd |
| 19:01.38 | Pooh22 | untitled_: I've no idea, since I only have one ;-) |
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| 19:02.12 | zuargo | I have KDE 4 on fedora 10, konqueror can to reproduce flash videos but from youtube it can not... anyone know why? |
| 19:02.36 | rdieter | zuargo: i386 or x86_64 ? |
| 19:02.43 | zuargo | i386 |
| 19:03.22 | rdieter | zuargo: you could try removing nspluginwrapper, doesn't work reliably with kde4 (not at all on x86_64 either)... for me. |
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| 19:04.14 | vbgunz | annma: under advanced options, I simply disabled 'enable feedback'. this removed subsequent taskbar entries |
| 19:04.14 | rdieter | zuargo: or short of removing it, configure konq to simply not use it. |
| 19:04.32 | untitled_ | how to get rid of KSysTraycmd in kde4 debian? :) |
| 19:04.54 | pinotree | don't use it? |
| 19:06.17 | zuargo | mmmmm... konqueror is not using nspluginwrapper... is using the adobe plugin |
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| 19:18.09 | Pooh22 | I found a netbook plasma theme, how do I install it? |
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| 19:18.55 | Pooh22 | the description on kde-look didn't include a howto :-( |
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| 19:20.16 | pinotree | right click on your desktop â configuration/settings/whatever â download new theme and install it from there |
| 19:21.06 | Pooh22 | pinotree: tnx |
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| 19:26.04 | holycow | hi guys |
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| 19:26.28 | holycow | i'm running kde4 on ubuntu ibex which is kde 4.1.x |
| 19:27.02 | holycow | everything works great however, when i click on the bookmarks icon in konqueror the screen on whichever monitor konqueror is on (dual head display, nvidia twinview) goes pure black |
| 19:27.17 | holycow | i'm not googling anything at all on this, anyone see this before? |
| 19:27.43 | holycow | oh i see |
| 19:27.54 | holycow | problem sorta goes away when i turn off effects |
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| 19:28.06 | holycow | it looks like the bookmark folder just splays open and takes up the whole screen |
| 19:28.09 | holycow | weeeird |
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| 19:46.33 | Pooh22 | why do I have to select what kind of leaving I want to do whenever I quit/logout/restart/shutdown from kde4? |
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| 19:46.44 | Pooh22 | twice, I mean |
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| 20:02.29 | tuxick | whee, konq segfaulted |
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| 20:03.01 | madrazr | Hi all, are kate and kwrite different. If so where can I find the source of Kate? I can just see kwrite in kdebase |
| 20:03.15 | SimAtWork | very different |
| 20:03.16 | tuxick | [KCrash handler] |
| 20:03.17 | tuxick | #5 0x00007f11c3e02ccb in QString::operator== () from /usr/lib64/qt4/libQtCore.so.4 |
| 20:03.23 | tuxick | that sound bad :) |
| 20:03.24 | gkiagia | madrazr: kate is in kdesdk |
| 20:03.33 | madrazr | gkiagia: Oh Ok. Thanks a lot |
| 20:03.46 | gkiagia | madrazr: they are different apps but they use the same kpart plugin for editing text |
| 20:03.56 | gkiagia | (which is the katepart, in kdelibs) |
| 20:04.24 | madrazr | gkiagia: Oh Ok |
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| 20:04.51 | gkiagia | tuxick: that doesn't mean anything... |
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| 20:09.43 | comedit | In kde 3.5 i was using commands like open as root, edit as root etc |
| 20:10.07 | comedit | in 4 (kubuntu 8,10) i don't see them anymore |
| 20:10.26 | comedit | are the gone or can I activate them |
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| 20:22.46 | Pooh22 | is there a way in fedora 10 to use the kwallet instead of something called key-ring? |
| 20:23.11 | Pooh22 | this is the network manager applet that's causing it... |
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| 20:45.58 | oneforall | new 180 drivers from NVidia I notice this said as I scroll back . But problem is for people with FX5200 etc . Thye don't support them . |
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| 20:46.37 | cb400f | fx5500 neither >:-) |
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| 21:07.37 | vbgunz | I am unable to override konquerors HTML service menu... I am placing the templates here: /home/vbgunz/.kde/share/templates ... the XHTML template is picked up but I cannot override the HTML template... should I place theme templates some place else? |
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| 21:08.27 | vbgunz | s/theme/these/ ... |
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| 21:20.31 | blip- | hi, i'm telling a FAT32 partition to auto mount via the right click properties in Dolphin file manager... but it doesn't automount and every time i have to manually mount an enter a password |
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| 21:20.56 | blip- | any ideas as to what is happening ? thanks |
| 21:26.30 | cga | i need to add nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 at startup. in gnome you would do that in "Sessions" , how to do that in kde4??? please thanks |
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| 21:29.36 | tuxick | no kpowersave for kde4? |
| 21:30.16 | brian_____ | Guidance Power Manager seems to have replaced it. |
| 21:30.54 | tuxick | sighs |
| 21:32.22 | Dumble | powerdevil |
| 21:32.36 | tuxick | yeah just found it |
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| 21:32.51 | tuxick | no more 'k' prefixes then? |
| 21:33.08 | tuxick | and why another name again? |
| 21:33.27 | gkiagia | it's a different app |
| 21:33.35 | tuxick | oww looks like kpowersave ism' |
| 21:33.39 | tuxick | t really maintained |
| 21:33.46 | gkiagia | that's right |
| 21:34.57 | tuxick | now if i could only find it :) |
| 21:35.22 | gkiagia | powerdevil is not an executable |
| 21:35.28 | gkiagia | it is integrated in the system |
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| 21:35.38 | gkiagia | see systemsettings->advanced->power |
| 21:35.51 | gkiagia | and the battery plasma applet |
| 21:36.09 | tuxick | aah that's the one where i didn't look :) |
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| 21:37.39 | tuxick | just no daemon, no idea where to find that either |
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| 21:38.00 | gkiagia | systemsettings->advanced->services |
| 21:38.27 | tuxick | whoa :) |
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| 21:39.59 | tuxick | neat |
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| 21:50.59 | vbgunz | how do you send files to KDEs trash by command line? I once had this in a script but it no longer works: /usr/bin/kfmclient move "$1" trash:/ ;; |
| 21:51.37 | vbgunz | I don't wish to simply mv them to the trash, I would like the restore functionality in case of mistakes, regret, etc |
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| 21:54.45 | vbgunz | even ktrash states in it's help to "kfmclient move 'url' trash:/" *but* this no longer works in KDE4. anyone know of a safe alternative? |
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| 22:16.32 | adamk | Is it possible to configure the Folder View plasma widget to show previews of the files? |
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| 22:19.29 | adamk | Never mind... Looks like it wasn't included till KDE 4.2: http://forum.kde.org/folder-view-widget-kde4-shows-no-thumbnails-t-17461.html |
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| 22:38.21 | blip- | tuxick: i think they are expanding the features of guidance though. i'd really like the stuff in kpowersave like autodim after specific time |
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| 22:38.52 | blip- | wow i just realized i haven't scrolled down since an hour |
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| 22:40.25 | tuxick | heh |
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| 22:55.36 | vbgunz | does anyone know how to send files to the trash in KDE4? kfmclient no longer moves anything :( |
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| 22:57.28 | mfonda | where to find kate syntax xml files? |
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| 23:07.21 | menace | is there a special channel for kmail-development? |
| 23:08.40 | SSJ_GZ | menace: #kontact is the closest, I guess. |
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| 23:34.02 | kronic | ok, how I can make one screen/monitor a dedicated desktop on kde, eg. I want desktop 1 to be on 1 monitor, but I can cycle 2-4 on the other |
| 23:34.15 | kronic | is this possible with a nvidia card? |
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