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| 00:13.15 | scast | Hello, fast question. How can I bind Show Desktop to a key in kde 4.1? It doesn't show in the kwin tab in Keyboard Shortcuts in System Settings |
| 00:14.13 | scast | I googled and I found an Show Desktop applet. Binding executing an applet to a key would work too if anyone knows how |
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| 00:16.54 | gkiagia | scast: hotkeys + kde4 = bad combination... there may be a way, but don't expect much, as hotkeys are known to be broken in 4.1.x |
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| 00:18.43 | scast | :( --- Any hope in KDE 4.2? |
| 00:19.00 | gkiagia | afaik yes |
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| 00:22.24 | scast | Uhm maybe installing debian lenny and sticking to kde 3.5 until feb might be a better a day than ubuntu intrepid. |
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| 02:12.58 | DoubleD84 | well. here's a noob question.. How do I change the window focus settings in kde 3.5.10 |
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| 02:15.27 | JLP | DoubleD84: right click on titlebar of any window and select something like configure Window Behaviour |
| 02:15.52 | JLP | DoubleD84: yo should see a section Focus there |
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| 02:21.48 | DoubleD84 | as a note.. I just reverted back to kubuntu 8.04 from 8.10 because I couldn't handle it |
| 02:22.04 | DoubleD84 | even as a noob |
| 02:22.31 | DoubleD84 | JLP: I've got compiz running.. the default menu isn't available.. |
| 02:23.06 | Jucato | System Settings -> Window Behavior |
| 02:23.36 | Jucato | er.. if you're running compiz. then you'll have to set it in compiz' settings |
| 02:23.40 | Jucato | #compiz-fusion then |
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| 02:24.16 | DoubleD84 | Jucato: as long as I know where to go I should be okay.. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction though.. Having the mouse movement take focus is annoying as hell |
| 02:27.47 | DoubleD84 | I'm going to guess that Compiz takes over default shortcut keys as well since Alt-F2 isn't opening up run :( |
| 02:28.35 | Jucato | yep |
| 02:28.45 | Jucato | it takes over your soul as well |
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| 02:30.21 | DoubleD84 | jesus.. I'm realizing this |
| 02:30.38 | DoubleD84 | I didn't realize that there was such a difference from KDE4 to 3 |
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| 02:34.58 | angasule | GerbilSoft: nice nickname :) |
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| 02:40.28 | jogla | Hello |
| 02:42.38 | jogla | I try to save my kmail maildirs as ''normal'' maildirs |
| 02:42.49 | jogla | To use them with programs like mutt |
| 02:42.55 | jogla | Is there a function in kmail for than? |
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| 02:56.20 | Stargazer | Anybody know how to remove compiz or w/e in KDE ? |
| 02:56.39 | Stargazer | Take away it's special effects. even |
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| 02:57.22 | jogla | you can try 'find .kde | grep -i compiz' |
| 02:57.25 | jogla | and delete that |
| 02:57.48 | Stargazer | I meant lower the effects or turn them off.. |
| 02:58.16 | Jucato | jogla: er? compiz isn't part of KDE |
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| 02:58.46 | Jucato | Stargazer: if you're using KDE's default window manager, System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop effects |
| 02:58.51 | Jucato | (which btw, is not compiz) |
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| 03:06.18 | hollywoodb | maybe I'm missing something, but how do I add a plain old single application launcher to the KDE4 panel? |
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| 03:14.40 | sunru | hello |
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| 03:14.59 | sunru | i have 3.5.9 how do i turn off icons on the desktop? |
| 03:16.28 | Hydrogen | delete everything in your ~/Desktop folder |
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| 03:17.01 | sunru | ok thats the predictable response outta of the way. |
| 03:17.03 | sunru | next. |
| 03:17.07 | Jucato | KControl -> Desktop -> Behavior -> uncheck Show icons on desktop |
| 03:17.12 | sunru | thanks |
| 03:17.14 | iateadonut | so, can anyone tell me if there's an advantage to having /home on a single user development server on a separate partition when changing distro's? |
| 03:17.18 | Hydrogen | ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer |
| 03:17.20 | Hydrogen | funny how that works |
| 03:17.23 | iateadonut | if you're upgrading from a distro using kde3 to one using kde4... will you have to reconfigure your desktop? |
| 03:17.32 | sunru | Hydrogen: apparently not asswipe |
| 03:17.35 | sunru | ^ |
| 03:17.38 | sunru | Jucato: thanks |
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| 03:17.46 | Hydrogen | I love idiots :> |
| 03:17.50 | Hydrogen | they make me feel better about myself |
| 03:17.57 | Jucato | hm.. |
| 03:18.11 | Hydrogen | wanders off to troll elsewhere for a while |
| 03:18.17 | Jucato | good idea |
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| 03:18.51 | araizen | hey everyone |
| 03:19.00 | araizen | kubuntu 8.10 |
| 03:19.16 | araizen | is there a way to group similar application on the taskbar in kde 4? |
| 03:19.36 | Jucato | not yet. there will be in KDE 4.2 (january) |
| 03:19.50 | araizen | how annoying |
| 03:20.27 | angasule | looks at araizen |
| 03:20.35 | angasule | first time I see someone who likes that :P |
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| 03:26.55 | araizen | another thing |
| 03:27.20 | araizen | i have programs that reduce themselves to systray icons, and they keep disappearing in kde 4 |
| 03:27.33 | araizen | is that a bug or does anyone know what's happening with that? |
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| 03:52.06 | eljefe | how do I enable gtk-qt-engine-kde4 on KDE4 desktop? I want Firefox to be a dark theme like the rest of the desktop |
| 03:52.35 | Jucato | install it. then go to System Settings -> Appearance |
| 03:52.55 | eljefe | its not there |
| 03:53.21 | eljefe | Style, Colors, Icons, Fonts, Windows, Splash Screen, Emoticons. |
| 03:53.53 | Jucato | not sure then. perhaps your distro didn't install it properly. you'll have to ask them |
| 03:54.05 | Jucato | it's not a KDE app |
| 03:54.36 | eljefe | ah ok. Debian Sid; no worry really tho. |
| 03:55.18 | eljefe | Does Hot New Stuff not work yet? |
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| 03:55.51 | Jucato | in some places it does. in others, no |
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| 03:56.52 | eljefe | man i am loving this. I just got my ATI drivers installed and working; effects are going for the first time, and i dont feel like i wasted money n that video card so much anymore |
| 03:57.07 | eljefe | and kde4 is the good life :) |
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| 04:11.32 | FloridaGuy | who ever said last night that the latest beta driver for nvidia would make a speed increase in kde4 was right |
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| 04:21.45 | KDE4000 | o_O |
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| 05:02.10 | raijin_ | hmm what does it mean if kde4 cannot find libraries that are, in actuality, there? |
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| 05:05.30 | junkDawgie | looks like everyone's asleep raijin.... are you trying to run a program or build something? |
| 05:05.45 | raijin_ | i was building things |
| 05:06.12 | raijin_ | then the kde konsole programs running started breaking |
| 05:06.20 | raijin_ | yakuake then konsole |
| 05:06.40 | raijin_ | maybe a yakauake issue? i was just building rpms |
| 05:06.41 | junkDawgie | so it's looking in the wrong place for the files... prolly have to edit something |
| 05:07.12 | raijin_ | kdelibs is what i was trying to build |
| 05:07.32 | raijin_ | cant i just reinitialize kde4? |
| 05:09.05 | junkDawgie | honestly i have no idea.... if there was a make error it shouldn't have touched your current setup.. i'm surprised you are having trouble, i would think it would abort |
| 05:10.23 | raijin_ | yes i would think so, but amarok is humming away, loads of firefox windows open and xterm and xchat |
| 05:10.35 | raijin_ | nothing heavy |
| 05:12.22 | junkDawgie | might be something about the environment varibles being changed.. ??? |
| 05:12.57 | junkDawgie | that would cause some programs to malfunction.. and might mess up the PATH |
| 05:13.23 | junkDawgie | so your build process could not find the appropriate libraries |
| 05:13.42 | raijin_ | its a ruby script OmoiKondara |
| 05:14.03 | raijin_ | rpm builder but its not jailed tht i noticed |
| 05:14.38 | junkDawgie | not familiar with that... sorry i couldn't of more assistance |
| 05:15.02 | raijin_ | no problem, im sure restarting X will be ok |
| 05:15.33 | raijin_ | and i can still use xterm |
| 05:15.36 | raijin_ | =D |
| 05:15.58 | junkDawgie | good luck.. :) |
| 05:16.12 | stoned | hey whats up guys |
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| 05:16.42 | junkDawgie | welcome back stoned |
| 05:17.27 | junkDawgie | every time i see your nick i think of that song... "they'll stone you when you're trying to be good... they'll stone you just like you knew they would" |
| 05:17.43 | junkDawgie | probably predates you a bit |
| 05:18.55 | junkDawgie | "and i would not feel so all alone....... everybody must get stoned" |
| 05:19.39 | junkDawgie | hopes for mercy for being off-topic |
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| 07:14.36 | N9NU | ok. i have something that is pissing me off to no end....every other day it seems my audio is not working. For most users, which backend are they using: Gstreamer or Xine and do they have Pulse enabled or frickin deep sixed |
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| 07:25.26 | N9NU | oh man |
| 07:25.34 | N9NU | ok....more or less same prob here |
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| 08:00.58 | tampakrap | too annoying |
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| 09:00.53 | JackWinter | argh i've broken my kded in 3.5.10 once again. it's racing and consuming 100% of one core. anyway i can troubleshoot or reset it's config files ? |
| 09:00.55 | xAxellx | Hi everybody! Is there any way to show desktop using terminal command? Or can you please tell me how to add "show desktop" hot key (kde 4.1.3) |
| 09:02.26 | JackWinter | if relevant seems like kde doesn't restart my kontakt either (when open on shutdown) |
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| 09:09.25 | xAxellx | Once again) (connection los :-)). How to show desktop (minimize all windows) using terminal?) |
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| 09:13.53 | xAxellx | or how to make "show desktop" hot key? What command should I type in (in systemsettings->keyboard)? (kde 4.1.3) |
| 09:14.08 | pinotree | there's no command |
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| 09:15.09 | xAxellx | so I can't create such hot key?( |
| 09:15.38 | xAxellx | seem I'll have to cat plasmoid source) |
| 09:15.58 | pinotree | plasmoid uses library calls |
| 09:17.31 | xAxellx | so, it seems the only way is to create app with same function... |
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| 09:17.43 | xAxellx | and start it with hot key) |
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| 10:06.03 | padde | can i somehow launch .desktop files from the shell? i'd like to have the startup notification and all |
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| 10:11.31 | Jucato | if you're on KDE 4, "kde-open filename.desktop" |
| 10:12.53 | herr_werwolf | Hello I have KDE ver4.0.3 on Ubuntu 8.04. I have two main problems. 1. I can't seem to get it to "fit" right on my screen. It seems that it expands a bit more (maybe 10-15 pixels in each on of the vertical axises -eg. the KDE icon appears only by 3/4). 2.I can't get it to move the KDE traditional menu back to it's bottom left position. I deleted to try it to the bottom right and then when I try to re-add it to the bottom left appears to the bottom right |
| 10:12.53 | herr_werwolf | again. Anyone any ideas? |
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| 10:16.09 | vizzy | how to show hidden directories in the filebrowsers/konquerors left side? (the tree) |
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| 10:16.36 | tapas | hi |
| 10:16.53 | tapas | is it specific to ubuntu, that the file selection dialog is broken? |
| 10:16.58 | tapas | broken in the sense that: |
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| 10:17.48 | tuxick | does kde3 have working dualhead these days? |
| 10:17.52 | tapas | try to edit a filename in the filename entry.. if you use a key like DEL to remove some letters in the filename, then as soon as there's a match in the file list, the focus seems to be jumping to the matched file and the next keypress will be interpreted as "delete this file!!!!!" |
| 10:17.57 | tuxick | last time i tried it was a bit of a joke |
| 10:18.24 | tuxick | new windows opening at "full width" etc |
| 10:19.22 | Gentle | tuxick: uhm. As long as your distribution links against the right libraries, it's been sane for the last, hmm, 5? 6? many years anyway |
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| 10:19.56 | tuxick | well then i missed something |
| 10:20.03 | tuxick | any doc worth reading? |
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| 10:26.23 | lxnay | why kate doesn't colour open filenames background in the documents tab in 4.1.3 ? I am having hard times working without this with > 30 files open |
| 10:26.48 | LiRen | ls |
| 10:26.54 | LiRen | hello |
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| 10:27.49 | tapas | lxnay: cause the code tells it to.. |
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| 10:28.40 | Gentle | heh |
| 10:28.50 | Gentle | frustration through obvious questions ;) |
| 10:29.12 | lxnay | tapas: huh? |
| 10:29.20 | lxnay | there's nothing obvious to me |
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| 10:30.20 | Gentle | well, the "kate doesn't do it because it has not been programmed" part is the obvious one |
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| 10:36.13 | JackWinter | i'll repeat as i've been gone for a while. i've managed to stuff up my kde 3.5.10 again. kded is racing consuming 100% of one core, and there are various other problems, sometimes kwallet doesn't start so all my konqueror windows are blocked. anything i can do or some tips on troubleshooting ? |
| 10:36.15 | lxnay | Gentle: I'm sure you are kidding |
| 10:36.17 | Jucato | lxnay: could be a bug. but if you're looking for an indicator that a file has been modified, there will be a floppy disk icon |
| 10:36.37 | lxnay | Jucato: nope, I want the background colouring |
| 10:36.38 | Jucato | the settings are there though, so the feature is there. but not working. |
| 10:36.46 | lxnay | like i was used in 3.5 and 4.0 |
| 10:36.52 | lxnay | I'm sure it's a bug |
| 10:36.57 | lxnay | since I enabled it in the options |
| 10:37.12 | lxnay | s/in/with |
| 10:37.14 | Gentle | it's still not working in trunk, but the settings are there, so probably "someone should look into it" ;) |
| 10:38.08 | Jucato | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175659 |
| 10:38.09 | lxnay | another reason to rip this off |
| 10:38.50 | Jucato | ah another unsatisfied customer. please take a number and wait for your refund |
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| 10:39.37 | Jucato | in the meantime, you can use KDE 3's kate, depending on how (in)sane your distro is |
| 10:40.26 | Gentle | or you could look into why it's broken, but that would require some goodwill :P |
| 10:45.06 | lxnay | Jucato: yup... gotta reinstall it tho |
| 10:45.39 | lxnay | Gentle: I am actually working, don't have time to look through an new codebase :D |
| 10:46.22 | Gentle | too much work and too less time is a really well known problem, yes ;) |
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| 10:58.56 | bouma1 | cause my tunner is not finding them |
| 10:59.08 | bouma1 | me-tv finds a couple but not all |
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| 11:25.43 | JackWinter | hmm, looks like i'll have to create a new user to get rid of my racing kded problem (3.5.10). is there a way to copy my enviroment and have kde startup without the racing kded ? Maybe by copying .kde/share/apps ? |
| 11:26.18 | JackWinter | sorry to be a bother, but don't know enough about kde.. :) |
| 11:26.24 | anne | JackWinter: if you copy everything you will have the same problems |
| 11:26.37 | anne | better to start clean then copy in one config at a time |
| 11:26.51 | anne | untily you find where the problem is |
| 11:27.05 | anne | if you are careful to save originals you will be |
| 11:27.16 | anne | able to restore if you meet the problem |
| 11:28.09 | annma | JackWinter: a freshnew user has no problem then? |
| 11:28.11 | JackWinter | anne: that sounds like a sensible plan. what do i have to copy the entire .kde dir or just parts of it ? |
| 11:28.26 | JackWinter | ann |
| 11:28.47 | JackWinter | annma: no. i had this problem before. |
| 11:28.48 | anne | a bit at a time, copy the ....apps and .....config dirs |
| 11:29.25 | JackWinter | anne: would you happen to know which are the config files for kinit and kded ? |
| 11:30.20 | anne | I'd have to hunt - why do you think you need those? |
| 11:30.22 | JackWinter | and should kinit still be running once kde is up and running ? |
| 11:30.42 | anne | JackWinter: no idea |
| 11:30.51 | anne | haven't been following your problem |
| 11:30.56 | anne | quick summary? |
| 11:31.05 | JackWinter | seeing that kded is giving the problem. i can kill it, but then i lose kwallet and detection of new media etc |
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| 11:31.31 | anne | then it probably should be still running |
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| 11:31.55 | JackWinter | kded is racing consuming 100% cpu of one core. sometimes kwallet won't come up or the entire desktop locks when i try to access a konqueror window |
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| 11:32.18 | JackWinter | kded should be running yes, but not racing :) |
| 11:32.46 | anne | JackWinter: my guess is that it's trying to something that a config is messing up |
| 11:33.34 | anne | have you tried a clean, new user? |
| 11:33.54 | JackWinter | is there a way to log what kded is doing ? the process is kded [kdeinit] --new-startup |
| 11:34.16 | anne | JackWinter: please answer - a new user? |
| 11:34.30 | anne | I didn't understand your answer to annma |
| 11:34.44 | JackWinter | yes a clean new user has no problem, but means a day or two configuring my desktop, and since it's the 2:nd time i experience it, i'd rather find what the problem is :) |
| 11:35.00 | anne | if a new user is ok then it's not the system |
| 11:35.11 | anne | you are going to mess with the wrong thing if you are not careful |
| 11:35.17 | JackWinter | no, it's something in my config... |
| 11:35.28 | anne | your user config, not your system config |
| 11:35.47 | JackWinter | yes |
| 11:36.01 | anne | so do as I said, a clean ~/.kde |
| 11:36.06 | anne | and restore slowly |
| 11:36.16 | JackWinter | i can make a copy of .kde/* before i start |
| 11:36.22 | anne | you should be able to do that and test it in an hour or two |
| 11:36.35 | anne | JackWinter: exactly |
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| 11:37.19 | JackWinter | ok, so everything in .kde is relevant, inluding cache and tmp ? |
| 11:37.38 | anne | leave them alone |
| 11:38.05 | anne | concentrate on ..../share/apps/ and ..../share/config |
| 11:38.27 | JackWinter | ok, thanks alot! that is what i need to hear :) |
| 11:38.45 | anne | NP tell us how it goes |
| 11:38.51 | JackWinter | will do. |
| 11:39.01 | FiNeX | hi! |
| 11:39.17 | anne | FiNeX: hi |
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| 11:40.09 | FiNeX | hi anne |
| 11:40.58 | anne | FiNeX: aka annew |
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| 11:41.39 | FiNeX | :) |
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| 12:26.55 | neron | Who is russian? |
| 12:27.25 | Gentle | russians |
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| 12:30.44 | NispiX | hey |
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| 12:46.36 | JackWinter | anne: hi. i copied the entire .kde except for the cache-tor link and the the socket-tor and tmp-tor files. no problem for the new user... what now ? :) |
| 12:47.40 | anne | JackWinter: work with it for a bit - |
| 12:48.08 | anne | if the problem doesn't come back, that's your new user profile |
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| 12:48.20 | anne | the problem must have been in the bits you didn't copy |
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| 12:48.47 | anne | if that's so, maybe a text login and rename those files? |
| 12:48.49 | JackWinter | hmm, maybe i found something. i can't open the media: in konqueror. maybe it has some problem opening a file system, but no complaints. will investigate that angle. because that is something kded does. |
| 12:49.25 | eae | hi there I have a problem with kopete in kde 4.1.3: kopete: error while loading shared libraries: libkabc.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:49.32 | anne | JackWinter: do you know when the problem first started? |
| 12:49.45 | JackWinter | i'm not exactly sure what cache-systemname and the socket and tmp files do, but i guess i can quickly google that |
| 12:49.52 | annma | eae: did you ask your distro about it? |
| 12:50.16 | anne | JackWinter: they will be temporary but might be in use during a session so |
| 12:50.24 | anne | that's why I said from a text login |
| 12:50.52 | anne | besides, anything renamed can be recovered if necessary |
| 12:50.57 | JackWinter | i found a vlc process and i killed it in system guard. after that the kde locked hard, and i had to reset the machine. since then i've had problems, but i've fsck the /home fs |
| 12:51.07 | eae | annma, I'll try |
| 12:51.48 | anne | JackWinter: search your system of lock files |
| 12:52.02 | anne | *.lock and *.lck |
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| 12:52.45 | JackWinter | can i delete them or should i rename them ? |
| 12:53.08 | anne | always rename. deletion comes when you're certain you don't need them |
| 12:53.24 | JackWinter | ok, thanks! bbl |
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| 12:59.07 | Half-Left | damn |
| 12:59.35 | Half-Left | either me or trunk really has problems |
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| 13:00.53 | Half-Left | Crashing, missing shortcut keys, kopete not connecting, mysql processes all over the place |
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| 13:02.42 | Half-Left | And yet again processes not ending when they should, this is what happened about the same time with 4.1 |
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| 13:13.24 | eae | how do I set panels to auto-hide in kde 4.1.3? |
| 13:13.41 | Half-Left | You can't |
| 13:13.49 | Half-Left | It's in 4.2 |
| 13:13.59 | eae | :< |
| 13:14.01 | Half-Left | (will be) |
| 13:14.19 | eae | I read somewhere that it was already possible |
| 13:14.32 | Half-Left | In trunk builds yes |
| 13:14.39 | eae | hmm I see |
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| 13:14.41 | Richlv | eae, only if distro backported something |
| 13:14.41 | Half-Left | has been for a while |
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| 13:17.00 | mib_95uwyio8 | hi @ all |
| 13:17.11 | mib_95uwyio8 | aseigo, you there? |
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| 13:18.56 | Vendy | Is anyone here? |
| 13:19.33 | eae | other question: is it possible to configure the task manager in kde 4.1.3 (for example, icon only/text only, group similar apps, etc.) |
| 13:20.37 | Richlv | kde 3.5.10. i'm trying to make a certain window always be on all desktops, skip taskbar & be fullscreen |
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| 13:20.49 | Richlv | the thing is, it does not match when it is opened, i am trying to match window title |
| 13:20.49 | Vendy | Any women? |
| 13:21.06 | anne | Vendy: can I help :-) |
| 13:21.22 | Vendy | anne, We'll talk in #anne. |
| 13:21.22 | Richlv | if i choose 'apply now' when the window has gotten that title, it works |
| 13:21.45 | Vendy | anne, Go there now. |
| 13:21.50 | Richlv | but i can't make it apply when window changes parameters & starts matching the criteria |
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| 13:22.08 | Richlv | i tried force, apply intially |
| 13:22.14 | mib_95uwyio8 | Hm |
| 13:22.25 | mib_95uwyio8 | does anyone know about the state of kiosk in kde? |
| 13:23.32 | JackWinter | anne: i booted in single user and it fsck my / fs, and then i renamed the following 2 files in my ~ gksu.lock and .ktorrent.lock now the problem is gone. ok i lost my open konqueror sessions, but a small price to pay in exchange for a couple of days of configuring :) many thanks for your help, much appreciated..! |
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| 13:24.53 | hrajchert | is there a good kde tool with trac integration? for example if i want to measure my time with a task. |
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| 13:25.30 | Jucato | trac integration? not sure. there's KTimeTracker (KArm in KDE 3) for measuring time with tasks |
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| 13:28.07 | Half-Left | Jucato: Processes not closing is making it's way into the beta's again :/ |
| 13:31.26 | JackWinter | anyone know exactly what gksu.lock does ? |
| 13:31.52 | JackWinter | or rather ~/.gksu.lock |
| 13:32.03 | Jucato | something that the GTK+ or GNOME people would know better ;) |
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| 13:33.14 | GNU\colossus | JackWinter: (guessing:) provides a mutex facility for gksu (a program to graphically promote a user's processes to EUID 0), in order to prevent two instances of gksu of starting at the same time |
| 13:35.47 | JackWinter | GNU\colossus: so no problem in deleting it. will be recreated next time it's needed ? |
| 13:35.59 | GNU\colossus | JackWinter: I'm fairly certain that this is the case, yes |
| 13:36.35 | JackWinter | ok, just for safetys sake i'll head over and ask the gnome people |
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| 13:49.49 | Vendy | What is it about rejection by wealthy, high status women which drives men to attain those traits themselves? |
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| 13:51.15 | Vendy | It's a common theme in superior literature. |
| 13:51.29 | Vendy | The poor man fancies the wealthy, high-status woman. |
| 13:51.43 | Vendy | He is rejected. |
| 13:51.57 | Vendy | He vows to do everything in his power to become wealthy and high of status himself. |
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| 13:53.51 | Half-Left | Vendy: And this has to do with KDE in what way? |
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| 14:12.50 | blip- | hi all, i formatted my /home and KDE3 can't login... kdm login gives us "Couldn't start kstartupconfig. Please check your installation" .... i did an mkdir /home/myusername |
| 14:13.00 | blip- | i can login to text mode fine |
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| 14:16.06 | annma | blip-: so it's kdm which is messed |
| 14:16.17 | freeedrich | blip-: are you proper owner of that dir? |
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| 14:17.31 | Vendy | Women hanging out with wealthier men tend to parade about like peacocks. |
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| 14:18.42 | Vendy | Bathing themselves in as much money as can be reasonably worn. |
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| 14:19.37 | annma | what about men with wealthier women |
| 14:19.48 | Jucato | hehee |
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| 14:29.38 | blip- | freeedrich: i just tried doing sudo startx from console and KDE3 logged on perfectly.... so what do i need to chown so that i can login via kdm ? |
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| 14:30.05 | annma | sudo startx? |
| 14:30.22 | blip- | ye |
| 14:30.28 | freeedrich | blip-: that sounds stupid. |
| 14:30.32 | blip- | from text mode i gave that command and it started |
| 14:30.35 | freeedrich | running a DE as root is no good idea. |
| 14:30.45 | freeedrich | blip-: try pure "startx" as user. |
| 14:30.53 | blip- | i don't want to.. i was just checking the permissions |
| 14:30.56 | freeedrich | And.. check the permissions on your homedir |
| 14:30.57 | blip- | ok i'll try normal startx now |
| 14:30.59 | annma | is that Gentoo |
| 14:31.05 | blip- | buntu |
| 14:31.13 | annma | so why sudo |
| 14:31.34 | freeedrich | annma: I'd guess "random ideas" ;) |
| 14:31.54 | Richlv | blip-, you already were told at least 2 times that permissions on your homedir are incorrect |
| 14:32.02 | Richlv | chown -R <username> /home/<username> |
| 14:32.19 | annma | yes if you reformated you did not set the permissions blip- |
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| 14:35.38 | blip- | hmm, i thought i didn't need since there are no files to set permissions for :) but that seems to have done it (i think it was the Xauthority file).. thanks for the help :) |
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| 14:38.14 | freeedrich | blip-: well, just think those processes weren't able to create their files (like .xsession-errors or stuff in .kde) |
| 14:38.15 | N9NU | does anyone else have a problem with this: http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm50/n9nu/menu.jpg |
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| 14:38.39 | N9NU | the i18n_EMPTY message next to most of the menu items |
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| 14:40.57 | pinotree | N9NU: which kde version is it? |
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| 14:41.25 | N9NU | Version 4.1.80 (KDE 4.1.80 (KDE 4.2 Beta1)) |
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| 14:41.55 | freeedrich | beta1 appears to be screwed :) |
| 14:42.01 | N9NU | woops |
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| 14:42.24 | N9NU | its more of an annoyance that anything |
| 14:42.33 | N9NU | function wise nothing is wrong |
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| 14:57.13 | Ralesk | where should I ask questions about dbus-qt3? |
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| 14:58.41 | Ralesk | kdelibs/kde3 (and kdebase/kde3) seems to make use of it but it seems that the 0.9.0 version of dbus-qt3 has different files inside than the old one (libdbus-1-qt3.so vs. libdbus-qt-1.so) |
| 15:04.04 | eae | in kde 4.1.3, is there a key combination to switch between desktops? like ctrl tab in kde 3 I think |
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| 15:04.31 | gsteinert | im having installing kdelibs from trunk. i have installed kdesupport. |
| 15:05.15 | gsteinert | i am getting no such file or directory errros with ui_kcupsoptionsjobwidget.h |
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| 15:05.52 | annma | pstebin full error please |
| 15:05.55 | annma | pastebin |
| 15:05.57 | gsteinert | in my experience this is usually to do with a problem in the relevent .ui file, but as i know very little about kdelibs idont know where to start looking |
| 15:06.10 | annma | last compiling line + error |
| 15:06.20 | pinotree | the .ui file for that generated file is not touched since... months |
| 15:06.22 | gsteinert | http://pastebin.com/m4691157c |
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| 15:06.47 | gsteinert | pinotree: hmm, that doesnt sound too promising |
| 15:06.55 | pinotree | `which uic` |
| 15:07.46 | gsteinert | pinotree: huh? |
| 15:07.48 | momesana | how di I enable session management in kde-4? |
| 15:08.01 | pinotree | gsteinert: run that command: which uic |
| 15:08.15 | gsteinert | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.38 | gsteinert | which would be the one bundled with ubuntu 8.10 |
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| 15:08.49 | pinotree | momesana: as usual, system settings â advanced â session management |
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| 15:08.55 | annma | eae: switch between desktop with ctrl-Fn |
| 15:09.01 | pinotree | gsteinert: run uic --version, and note what it outputs |
| 15:09.23 | gsteinert | 4.4.3 |
| 15:09.36 | gsteinert | ah, i need qt-copy dont i? |
| 15:09.40 | annma | no |
| 15:09.40 | pinotree | no |
| 15:09.44 | momesana | thanks pinotree |
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| 15:10.04 | pinotree | gsteinert: qmake --version |
| 15:10.19 | gsteinert | 2.01a |
| 15:11.01 | momesana | strange. session management is turned on by default but doesn't work for apps like amarok (qt3 version) etc. |
| 15:11.54 | gsteinert | momesana: amarok 1.4.9 is a kde3 app that may be your problem |
| 15:12.05 | gsteinert | unless your using the beta |
| 15:12.57 | gsteinert | pinotree: should i download qt-copy |
| 15:13.02 | pinotree | no |
| 15:13.12 | momesana | well, session management should work acroos toolkits and their respective versions |
| 15:13.18 | momesana | across* |
| 15:13.43 | jthomas | We have a new server and my links to sftp:// in Konqueror no longer work for that server; I can manually ssh to it just fine; does KDE store its own keys somewhere? |
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| 15:16.05 | Bundestrojaner | hello |
| 15:16.14 | gsteinert | momesana: i dont know, its just ive had trouble settign the default browser for use in kde3 apps |
| 15:16.24 | gsteinert | but in kde4 it wokrs fine |
| 15:17.01 | Bundestrojaner | i have a strange problem: i installed kde 4.1.3 and got no "task bar" |
| 15:17.01 | Bundestrojaner | i tried nearly everything to fix this and google also knows nothing |
| 15:17.20 | gsteinert | Bundestrojaner: is plasma running? |
| 15:17.26 | Bundestrojaner | yes |
| 15:17.35 | Bundestrojaner | i also tried reemerging plasma |
| 15:17.36 | gsteinert | can you not right click and 'add new panel'? |
| 15:17.43 | Bundestrojaner | yes, i can |
| 15:18.11 | Bundestrojaner | but if i add one, it is empty |
| 15:18.26 | gsteinert | you just need to add widgets to the panel |
| 15:18.54 | gsteinert | if you want a quick fix, run `rm ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma*` |
| 15:18.57 | gsteinert | then restart plasma |
| 15:19.06 | gsteinert | that should give you the default config |
| 15:19.52 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: this is since the beginning, i never had a panel :( |
| 15:19.52 | Bundestrojaner | so i should have default konfig |
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| 15:20.13 | annma | Bundestrojaner: did you try another user as well? |
| 15:20.23 | Bundestrojaner | annma: yes |
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| 15:20.41 | gsteinert | Budestrojaner: sec |
| 15:20.46 | Bundestrojaner | kde 3 is kompletely removed, i tried a new account and reinstallation of plasma |
| 15:21.07 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: shall i rm plasma now? |
| 15:21.14 | annma | rm plasma? |
| 15:21.21 | gsteinert | you can try it |
| 15:21.25 | gsteinert | annma: just the config files! |
| 15:21.45 | annma | if he has this on a new user as well then there's no config involved |
| 15:21.58 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: i have NO FOLDER plasma in .kde/share/apps |
| 15:22.08 | annma | no, that's right |
| 15:22.13 | gsteinert | its not a folder, its two files |
| 15:22.14 | Bundestrojaner | means this, .kde is still pointing to kde3? |
| 15:22.17 | annma | did you try your distro channel? |
| 15:22.18 | gsteinert | plasmarc |
| 15:22.30 | gsteinert | and plasma-appletsrc |
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| 15:22.36 | annma | gsteinert: if it happens with a new user there's no config involved |
| 15:23.06 | Bundestrojaner | no plasma-files exist here |
| 15:23.22 | annma | Bundestrojaner: do not bother with config files and ask your distro about potential problems |
| 15:23.37 | Bundestrojaner | annma: i tried this 2 days long :( |
| 15:23.41 | annma | the plasma*rc files are in $KDEHOME/share/config |
| 15:23.50 | annma | Bundestrojaner: Gentoo you said? |
| 15:23.54 | Bundestrojaner | yes |
| 15:24.02 | annma | what about other applets? |
| 15:24.05 | Bundestrojaner | i was also in gentoo-kde |
| 15:24.18 | annma | when you start kde4, can you add widgets? |
| 15:24.21 | Bundestrojaner | how can i check if plasma works right? |
| 15:24.26 | annma | when you start kde4, can you add widgets? |
| 15:24.31 | gsteinert | pinotree: any ideas? |
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| 15:24.57 | Bundestrojaner | annma: i can add a panel and add a widget in it - it's shown right |
| 15:25.11 | annma | Bundestrojaner: but no taskbar? |
| 15:25.24 | Bundestrojaner | i see no bar on the whole desktop |
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| 15:25.27 | Bundestrojaner | mom |
| 15:25.34 | annma | Bundestrojaner: a panel is a bar |
| 15:25.48 | annma | task bar is task manager for me |
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| 15:26.29 | Bundestrojaner | i mean the thing from kde 3.5 where the K-Menu (start menu in windoze) is, the open tasks, multi-desktop-menu,... |
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| 15:27.38 | annma | Bundestrojaner: that's the panel |
| 15:27.46 | gsteinert | Bundestrojaner: each of those things is replaced by a widget in kde4 |
| 15:27.46 | Bundestrojaner | yes |
| 15:27.52 | annma | Bundestrojaner: right click on the desktop and add panel then add start menu in it |
| 15:27.52 | Bundestrojaner | oh, ok |
| 15:28.34 | Bundestrojaner | annma: i have just a few widgets in this menu |
| 15:28.44 | annma | you need kdeplasma-addons |
| 15:28.51 | Bundestrojaner | oh, mom |
| 15:28.51 | annma | ask your distro about it |
| 15:29.40 | Bundestrojaner | annma: it's in portage |
| 15:29.44 | Bundestrojaner | emerge is running |
| 15:30.38 | annma | !!! |
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| 15:31.27 | Bundestrojaner | that was it, thx!!!!! |
| 15:31.32 | Bundestrojaner | this is a thing they should add to kdebase-meta |
| 15:31.32 | Bundestrojaner | in summary, my problem was that i didn't know how it shall look like and so i thought it was an error... |
| 15:32.19 | Bundestrojaner | is there a way to set this menu down? |
| 15:32.20 | Bundestrojaner | i don't see a way to move it |
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| 15:36.56 | gsteinert | Bundestrojaner: to move the panel to the bottom of the screen you mean? |
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| 15:39.44 | Bundestrojaner | yes, i found the way to move allready, but i can move it to right or left, but not to the bottom :-| |
| 15:40.13 | gsteinert | seems like you already have a panel down there :S |
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| 15:40.52 | gsteinert | thats the only reason i can think of that it wont move to the bottom |
| 15:41.17 | Bundestrojaner | no |
| 15:41.20 | Bundestrojaner | there is nothing |
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| 15:42.19 | gsteinert | maybe plasma thinks you screenis bigger than it actually is |
| 15:42.32 | gsteinert | try zooming out (using the menu top right of the screen) |
| 15:42.56 | Bundestrojaner | i just noticed, i also can't move it to the right |
| 15:43.07 | gsteinert | :S |
| 15:44.51 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: what top-menu right ? |
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| 15:45.39 | gsteinert | there should be a foot-looking thing at the top right of your screen,sclick on it and youget a menu |
| 15:45.54 | gsteinert | on the desktop that is, youll need to minimise your windows first |
| 15:46.21 | Bundestrojaner | there's nothing on the top right of the screen |
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| 15:46.51 | gsteinert | now thats not right! |
| 15:47.23 | junkDawgie | somebody stole your cashews! |
| 15:48.13 | annma | lol |
| 15:48.25 | junkDawgie | :) |
| 15:48.27 | gsteinert | incidentally, has noone ever pointed out that the plasma logo looks far too much like gnome's? |
| 15:48.46 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: just a moment, i made a screenshot |
| 15:49.07 | junkDawgie | i think it looks like a slug leaving a trail... but i suspect it's my attitude |
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| 15:50.16 | gsteinert | junkDawgie: yeah i can see that! |
| 15:50.44 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: http://members.aon.at/nikolatesla/snapshot1.png |
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| 15:51.46 | gsteinert | Bundestronjaner: try moving the panel to the left then see |
| 15:51.54 | gsteinert | if not, then i have no idea, sorry =( |
| 15:52.03 | Bundestrojaner | gsteinert: to the left works |
| 15:52.12 | Bundestrojaner | but not to the right or to the bottom |
| 15:52.19 | gsteinert | is the menu there when you move it to the left |
| 15:53.13 | Bundestrojaner | yes |
| 15:53.18 | Bundestrojaner | then it is left |
| 15:53.36 | gsteinert | i meant the menu in the top right ofthe screen? |
| 15:53.56 | Bundestrojaner | no, it never was there |
| 15:54.45 | gsteinert | pastebin your $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
| 15:54.51 | Bundestrojaner | but i can't move the mouse "out of" the screen in the bottom, and when i move it right, it appears in the second monitor |
| 15:54.53 | annma | what kde version is it? |
| 15:54.55 | jthomas | anyone know if KDE stores its own SSH keys or remote identities anywhere? My sftp is failing in konqueror but works from the cli |
| 15:54.58 | Bundestrojaner | 4.1.3 |
| 15:55.17 | annma | Bundestrojaner: did you ask Gentoo if you got all packages? |
| 15:55.30 | gsteinert | Bundestronjaer: ah, it may be a multiplemonitor issue |
| 15:55.42 | annma | KDE ships kdebase/workspace for the default desktop |
| 15:55.46 | Bundestrojaner | annma: i installed it with the kdebase-metapackage |
| 15:55.47 | gsteinert | i seem to remember having trouble when i hooked my laptop up to my tv a while back |
| 15:55.55 | annma | Bundestrojaner: you have a dual monitor? |
| 15:56.00 | Bundestrojaner | yes |
| 15:56.06 | annma | did you mention it? |
| 15:56.35 | Bundestrojaner | no, this worked also with 3.5 |
| 15:56.45 | annma | kde4 is a NEW version |
| 15:56.55 | gsteinert | plasma is completely new |
| 15:57.02 | gsteinert | there is nothing of it from kde3 |
| 15:57.02 | annma | is everything OK in the first monitor then |
| 15:57.10 | Bundestrojaner | and the strange thing is, i can go with the mouse to the second monitor but it is simply black (the background aso.) |
| 15:57.14 | annma | is everything OK in the first monitor then |
| 15:57.39 | annma | or is it the first one |
| 15:57.43 | annma | bah |
| 15:58.17 | Bundestrojaner | the firse makes problem |
| 15:58.17 | Bundestrojaner | s |
| 15:58.18 | Bundestrojaner | in the second i nothing |
| 15:58.18 | Bundestrojaner | it's simply black |
| 15:58.28 | Bundestrojaner | i can go with the mouse on it, but i can't open the rightklick-menu aso. |
| 15:58.31 | annma | did you try with only 1 monitor |
| 15:58.44 | Bundestrojaner | i'll try now |
| 15:58.45 | annma | dual monitor was broken in 4.1.3 |
| 15:58.46 | Bundestrojaner | mom |
| 15:58.58 | gsteinert | the rigt click menu is part of plasma |
| 15:58.58 | annma | just look at bug reports and add your comments |
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| 15:59.13 | annma | next time please mention things liek that as this is not default |
| 15:59.29 | gsteinert | by the sounds of it plasma hasnt picked up your second monitor properly |
| 15:59.40 | annma | gsteinert: known issue |
| 15:59.58 | annma | as I said dual is broken in 4.1.x |
| 16:00.10 | gsteinert | i thought it might be, i think that wasthe same problem i had |
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| 16:01.59 | Bundestrojaner | i must reboot the pc, so a mom |
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| 16:02.10 | Bundestrojaner | btw: i installed the new kopete (4.1.3) i think |
| 16:02.24 | Bundestrojaner | is it right that this version can nearly nothing? |
| 16:02.26 | junkDawgie | does your statement suggest that in 4.2 there will be a reliable way to span the plasma workspace over two monitors, annma? |
| 16:02.33 | Bundestrojaner | just 5 protocolls |
| 16:02.38 | Bundestrojaner | but no irc and so on |
| 16:03.54 | Bundestrojaner | gesteinert && annma: the second monitor was the problem |
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| 16:08.15 | annma | junkDawgie: I hope so, I did not test it though |
| 16:08.27 | annma | I think it can only improve... |
| 16:08.33 | junkDawgie | thanks, i am hopeful too |
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| 16:11.06 | Bundestrojaner | how can i get "more desktop"? in kde 3.5, there was a menu to switch between |
| 16:11.24 | gsteinert | use the pager applet |
| 16:12.17 | anne | rt-click > Configure Desktops |
| 16:12.43 | icwiener | Does anyone have an idea why my oxygen panel from trunk is rather light bue while it is rather dark blue for anyone else? |
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| 16:13.36 | annma | icwiener: screenshot? |
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| 16:13.44 | annma | icwiener: you have defaults? |
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| 16:14.59 | ld50 | where does akonadi keeps its data? i want to "reset" it |
| 16:15.04 | icwiener | annma: Default what? There is no colour setting isn't it? Anyway, I'll make a screenshot. |
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| 16:17.00 | Bundestrojaner | is is the new kopete really not able to use irc? |
| 16:17.20 | gsteinert | not yet |
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| 16:18.06 | mfilipe | annma: hi! did you like Belo Horizonte? |
| 16:18.28 | junkDawgie | Bundestrojaner: no, i asked too in #kopete and it's not implemented.. they say eventually but nobody is really working on it. |
| 16:18.59 | annma | mfilipe: superb, yes! |
| 16:19.48 | mfilipe | annma: where was you stay? |
| 16:20.04 | Bundestrojaner | is there a language pack for kde4? |
| 16:20.23 | Bundestrojaner | i installed kde-i18n, chose german and it chanced nothing |
| 16:20.24 | annma | we went to Rio then we stayed to B H and visited around |
| 16:20.24 | mfilipe | the name quarter... |
| 16:20.26 | Bundestrojaner | changed |
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| 16:20.37 | icwiener | annma: http://imagebin.ca/view/O-_GCx.html For others I saw the panel more had a colour slightly darker than the tasks on the left. |
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| 16:20.48 | annma | ah Jardim Montanhes |
| 16:21.58 | mfilipe | nice :) |
| 16:22.14 | mfilipe | annma: did you visit the Mineirão? hahaha |
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| 16:22.48 | annma | icwiener: seems the same that I have, depends on your monitor for the exact shade |
| 16:23.09 | annma | I visited Ouro Preto mfilipe |
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| 16:23.45 | icwiener | annma: Hmm, ok. thanks. You are probably right. |
| 16:23.54 | annma | is it the stadium mfilipe |
| 16:23.58 | mfilipe | hum... Ouro Preto is historic city |
| 16:24.02 | mfilipe | annma: yes |
| 16:24.28 | annma | I did not visit it, when I was in Rio tehre was a soccer match for the World Cup! |
| 16:24.48 | mfilipe | I don't like Ouro Preto, it has many many hills |
| 16:24.49 | mfilipe | huahua |
| 16:24.52 | annma | lol yes |
| 16:24.56 | annma | hard on legs |
| 16:25.08 | annma | BH as well in fact |
| 16:25.18 | annma | we went to the top, the belvedere |
| 16:25.21 | annma | by car |
| 16:25.54 | Bundestrojaner | does kde-i18n don't work for kde4? |
| 16:25.55 | mfilipe | I live near of Belvedere... is 5 minutes of car |
| 16:26.09 | annma | oh! if I come next year we should meet |
| 16:26.19 | annma | Bundestrojaner: it works |
| 16:26.29 | annma | Bundestrojaner: install a language and set it in System Settings |
| 16:26.43 | Bundestrojaner | i installed it, chose german in the system settings, relogin - nothing |
| 16:26.54 | Bundestrojaner | then i restarted x - still english |
| 16:26.58 | annma | Bundestrojaner: it should work |
| 16:27.16 | Bundestrojaner | annma: microsoft also say this :D |
| 16:27.29 | annma | Bundestrojaner: open any KDE app and choose in Help the change language thing |
| 16:27.43 | mfilipe | annma: sure, I will invite to Encontro Mineiro de Software Livre (free software event), but you was split |
| 16:27.45 | annma | Bundestrojaner: I say it because I work on French in KDE |
| 16:27.50 | mfilipe | the EMSL is in this month |
| 16:28.02 | annma | ohhh is it in BH? |
| 16:28.06 | mfilipe | yeah |
| 16:28.09 | annma | woow |
| 16:28.21 | annma | so many Free events in Brazil! |
| 16:28.30 | annma | such an amazing country |
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| 16:28.43 | mfilipe | yeah... free software here is strong |
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| 16:29.00 | Bundestrojaner | in local is german set... |
| 16:29.13 | annma | we have Brazilian students working in KDE-Edu programs |
| 16:29.15 | Bundestrojaner | it's the only lanuage in the list |
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| 16:29.28 | annma | Bundestrojaner: can you switch a single app? |
| 16:29.46 | annma | withHelp -> Switch Application Language? |
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| 16:30.01 | Bundestrojaner | what do you mean? btw: they say in gentoo-kde, i have to use kde-l10n |
| 16:30.32 | annma | you have to install the language package for yur kde version |
| 16:30.38 | annma | you said you installed it |
| 16:30.40 | Bundestrojaner | annma: no, there's only american english |
| 16:30.46 | Bundestrojaner | i installed kde-i18n |
| 16:30.50 | annma | you said it appears in system settings |
| 16:30.55 | Bundestrojaner | yes, it does |
| 16:31.06 | Bundestrojaner | but not in Help -> Switch Application Language? |
| 16:31.14 | annma | how it is called is your distro problem |
| 16:31.21 | annma | then it's not properly installed |
| 16:31.48 | Bundestrojaner | yeah, they changed the name |
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| 16:38.08 | Bundestrojaner | annma: that was the problem, they have a new language pack for kde4 |
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| 16:46.00 | Bundestrojaner | thx for help |
| 16:46.01 | Bundestrojaner | cu |
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| 16:52.51 | Bundestrojaner | kann i install the old kopete on kde 4? |
| 16:53.48 | Bundestrojaner | can ^^ |
| 16:53.57 | annma_ | of course but you need kdelibs3 dependencies |
| 16:54.51 | Bundestrojaner | or, maybe i don't find it: i set kopete to use tabs |
| 16:55.30 | Bundestrojaner | when somebody in the other tab sends me a message, i get the same notice as if it would be closed... |
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| 17:05.29 | tntcoda | Will there ever be a ~/Desktop folder again in KDE? Im really not a fan of using a plasma box for desktop icons :( |
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| 17:06.30 | DrEeevil | stabs tntcoda a bit |
| 17:06.35 | nogagplz | tntcoda: I agree |
| 17:06.48 | DrEeevil | I'm not a fan of putting things where I can't access them |
| 17:07.06 | DrEeevil | and the desktop background would be the first place to be covered by applications that I start |
| 17:07.13 | tntcoda | exactly |
| 17:07.33 | DrEeevil | so why would you want to put icons there? |
| 17:08.12 | anne | tntcoda: if you don't already have one, create a directory ~/Desktop |
| 17:08.23 | anne | then install a folderview |
| 17:08.32 | anne | point it at ~/Desktop |
| 17:08.44 | anne | and enlarge your folderview to cover your entire desktop |
| 17:09.02 | tntcoda | but doesnt that put an annoying transparent black box over my wallpaper? |
| 17:09.16 | annma | tntcoda: what do you want a Desktop for? |
| 17:09.18 | anne | it's almost identical then to the old desktop |
| 17:09.51 | annma | tntcoda: /Desktop is still there for a start, in your Home |
| 17:10.32 | tntcoda | hmm ok thanks, I guess im just used to having a wallpaper, and the ability to save icons, documents etc to appear directly ontop of the wallpaper (without additional view controls) |
| 17:10.43 | anne | tntcoda: I don't think you can have wallpapers in a folderview yet |
| 17:10.51 | anne | but I'm not certain of that |
| 17:10.57 | anne | annma? |
| 17:11.14 | tntcoda | hopefully it will appear in a future version |
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| 17:14.15 | annma | you can set the folderview as an activity so have a wallpaper in it |
| 17:14.17 | annma | tntcoda: what is your use case? |
| 17:14.22 | annma | were my last lines |
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| 17:36.36 | chemikksc | Hello, where i can find libkephal ? |
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| 17:36.55 | Sammy16 | Any-one else having a problem with compiz and adept_notifer where there is an empty space in the notification area? |
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| 17:39.47 | annma | Samuel-NotAFK: that sounds like Kubuntu problems |
| 17:40.01 | annma | Nor compiz nor adept are in KD |
| 17:40.03 | annma | E |
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| 17:40.15 | annma | chemikksc: kdelibs trunk |
| 17:40.16 | Samuel-NotAFK | Annma: Good point, I shouldn't have asked here. |
| 17:40.22 | Samuel-NotAFK | Annma: Sorry. |
| 17:40.28 | annma | no problem |
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| 17:41.25 | Samuel-NotAFK | Cya. |
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| 17:43.08 | Rasi | hmmm |
| 17:43.15 | Rasi | akanodi only works with mysql? |
| 17:43.18 | Half-Left | annma: What do you reccommend to fix this? |
| 17:43.37 | annma | fix what? |
| 17:43.59 | Half-Left | The apps crashing in my old account |
| 17:44.10 | annma | akonadi channel in #kontact Rasi |
| 17:44.20 | annma | you can ask precisions there |
| 17:44.29 | annma | Half-Left: I have no idea |
| 17:44.40 | Half-Left | Crazy |
| 17:45.34 | annma | yes :( |
| 17:45.55 | annma | when you started the new account, was the start slow? |
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| 17:46.45 | Half-Left | I think nuking .kde is the only thing |
| 17:46.45 | Half-Left | annma: Yer usually is because it has to create it |
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| 17:46.55 | annma | hmm for me and there's a bug report as well, it is really too slow |
| 17:47.41 | annma | it stops after 1st splash icon and looks idle |
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| 17:49.41 | annma | I have to go, see you! |
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| 18:23.17 | walbert1 | (kde 4.1.3 / kubuntu) |
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| 18:55.44 | rindolf | Hi all! |
| 18:56.32 | rindolf | How does KDE 4 apps determine if you're running on top of GNOME (and then change the button order to be GNOME/Maccy)? I get the wrong behaviour on top of KDE 3 on my user account, and it's OK in a new user. |
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| 19:04.17 | otay | put pidgin back inside Konqueror! Howe's with me?? Viva Konqueuror!! |
| 19:04.32 | otay | err dolphin I mean |
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| 19:06.31 | rindolf | svn.kde.org seems to be down here. |
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| 19:20.03 | rindolf | How does KDE 4 apps determine if you're running on top of GNOME (and then change the button order to be GNOME/Maccy)? I get the wrong behaviour on top of KDE 3 on my user account, and it's OK in a new user. |
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| 19:33.31 | nigskki | is there a konqueror irc? |
| 19:33.43 | workman161 | hrm? |
| 19:33.44 | nigskki | i want to tell them how terrible their browser is |
| 19:33.51 | Skrot- | then no |
| 19:33.58 | nigskki | oh u |
| 19:34.00 | workman161 | yes, its at bugs.kde.org |
| 19:34.03 | workman161 | :) |
| 19:34.03 | nigskki | theyre big boys |
| 19:34.12 | nigskki | i wont reduce anyone at kde to tears |
| 19:34.25 | Skrot- | I doubt they're interested in hearing about that, but do file bug reports :) |
| 19:34.26 | workman161 | whats so bad with konqueror? |
| 19:34.37 | nigskki | incompatible with so much.... |
| 19:35.02 | nigskki | i swear like half the sites i use dont work properly |
| 19:35.10 | nigskki | which is a shame |
| 19:35.17 | nigskki | because its such a smooth browser |
| 19:35.23 | workman161 | so its the browser's fault it supports good standards and the sites don't use those standards right? |
| 19:35.37 | nigskki | the sites work on firefox |
| 19:35.40 | nigskki | ie |
| 19:35.42 | nigskki | opera |
| 19:35.47 | nigskki | w/e apple are using |
| 19:36.01 | workman161 | probably because they cater to those browsers quirks |
| 19:36.21 | workman161 | on a totally w3c compliant site, konqueror works just as good as any other browser |
| 19:36.40 | nigskki | well the internet is awash with web 2.0 |
| 19:36.49 | workman161 | if the web developer decides that they'll use this firefox-only feature here and an IE-only one there, problems arise |
| 19:37.01 | workman161 | and the majority of it works in konqueror |
| 19:37.22 | nigskki | myspace stll doesnt work :/ |
| 19:37.25 | nigskki | or msnbc |
| 19:37.45 | workman161 | I wouldn't really call either of those two 'web 2.0' |
| 19:38.04 | nigskki | myspace is now |
| 19:38.05 | workman161 | and an overwhelming majority of their users use IE, so they code to support IE |
| 19:38.10 | nigskki | they implemented new stuff |
| 19:38.26 | nigskki | but everything works on firefox and opera too... |
| 19:38.31 | workman161 | then tell myspace to fix their site to support more browsers |
| 19:38.34 | Skrot- | http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.myspace.com&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0 have fun |
| 19:39.50 | Skrot- | msnbc is even worse |
| 19:40.34 | workman161 | see, if a browser gets crap input, it'll give you a crap output. |
| 19:41.06 | gitte | This is the right channel to ask for enhancements of KDE4's desktop, correct? |
| 19:41.18 | workman161 | most of the time, yets |
| 19:41.20 | workman161 | *yes |
| 19:41.29 | nigskki | myspace arent going to fix their code |
| 19:41.29 | workman161 | but we're in a feature freeze to polish up kde 4.3 |
| 19:41.47 | gitte | Because I want to have the old desktop behavior back, where I can place icons (files) on the desktop, and not some random small unresizable "Desktop" window. |
| 19:41.51 | gitte | Is that possible? |
| 19:41.55 | nigskki | browsers should work to adapt to new situations like this... |
| 19:42.27 | workman161 | gitte: yes, I believe thats in 4.3 |
| 19:42.30 | workman161 | might be in 4.2 |
| 19:42.42 | Skrot- | 4.2 methinks |
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| 19:43.05 | workman161 | either way, you go to the dialog that lets you change the background and change the desktop activity |
| 19:43.08 | Skrot- | i've got an option to set my desktop to "folder view" which is the same as the old mode |
| 19:43.28 | workman161 | nigskki: whys that then? |
| 19:44.19 | Skrot- | ideally, people should learn to write proper html and css.. |
| 19:44.31 | workman161 | the khtml devs don't have much incentive to code the thousands of workarounds needed to make broken sites work like other browsers |
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| 20:24.19 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 20:24.30 | rindolf | How does KDE 4 apps determine if you're running on top of GNOME (and then change the button order to be GNOME/Maccy)? I get the wrong behaviour on top of KDE 3 on my user account, and it's OK in a new user. |
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| 20:25.54 | BULLE | in kde, 4.1, kopete, i managed to hide the menu bar, now, how do i get it back ? in most kde apps it seems you can get some sort of popupmenu with an option to enable menubar again, cant find such a setting in kopete |
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| 20:29.29 | anne | running dolphin as root - |
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| 20:29.47 | anne | is ok from a terminal, but I can't get it to run from an icon |
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| 20:30.00 | anne | command: dolphin %i -caption "%c" "%u" |
| 20:30.02 | BULLE | ok ctrl+m is the shortcut |
| 20:30.17 | anne | and 'run as root' is set |
| 20:30.22 | arezey | anne: kdesu dolphin? |
| 20:30.31 | anne | in kde4? |
| 20:30.38 | arezey | i think so |
| 20:30.38 | anne | does kdesu work now? |
| 20:30.42 | arezey | no idea |
| 20:30.46 | jazka | it does |
| 20:30.47 | arezey | uses kde3.. |
| 20:30.50 | arezey | oh, it does. |
| 20:31.08 | anne | sec - I'll try it |
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| 20:32.07 | anne | no - same problem as before - |
| 20:32.37 | anne | 'could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: the name org.kde.klauncher wass |
| 20:32.47 | anne | not provided by an .service files' |
| 20:32.53 | anne | *any |
| 20:32.56 | arezey | hmm.. |
| 20:34.26 | anne | I think I'm not getting root's environment |
| 20:34.36 | anne | does that sound right? |
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| 20:36.42 | arezey | sounds plausible.. |
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| 20:40.41 | anne | arezey: I'll sleep on it. Thanks anyway |
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| 20:58.53 | pinchartl | hi |
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| 20:59.40 | jacekowski | hi |
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| 21:00.19 | Shingoshi | How come the run command in KDE-4 doesn't have a root passwd option? |
| 21:00.41 | jacekowski | why when i change master channel in kmix to Front instead of PCM i can't change volume using keys on keyboard ( i can change volume manualy ), when i press key that progress bar appears but nothing else happens |
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| 21:01.32 | workman161 | jacekowski: you need to change the global shortcuts |
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| 21:01.49 | workman161 | show the mixer window, then settings>configure shortcuts |
| 21:02.26 | jacekowski | yes |
| 21:02.48 | jacekowski | but when i change master channel back to PCM everything works fin |
| 21:02.48 | jacekowski | e |
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| 21:06.17 | jacekowski | workman161: so? |
| 21:07.01 | workman161 | not sure |
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| 21:11.22 | padi | Hi all, what do I have t do to get my wireless with wpa running under kde 4.1.2? It seems a driver or knetworkmanager issue: my card is atheros AR5211. Best regards |
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| 21:11.43 | padi | the loading bar for the connection just never reaches the end. |
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| 21:12.27 | jacekowski | use wicd |
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| 21:16.47 | yaniv | UMODE w |
| 21:16.56 | yaniv | hello all |
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| 21:28.35 | workman161 | oh dear, my plasma is freaking out |
| 21:28.57 | workman161 | something with my graphics driver no doubt |
| 21:30.10 | niggmoo | FUN FACT: Niggers represent only 13% of the U.S. population, but are said to consume 45% of fried chicken from chicken fast food establishments (ie. KFC, Church's, Bojangles) |
| 21:30.20 | Skrot- | ... |
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| 21:31.27 | lyhana8 | Hi, what do i need to convert from flac to ogg with KDE ? |
| 21:31.38 | pinotree | niggmoo: spam away, please |
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| 21:32.56 | niggmoo | I went to a nigger funeral a few years ago...damn that list is accurate!!! |
| 21:32.56 | niggmoo | I had to go, the company we worked for made us go and it was an experience like no other...especially when the 3 sheboon sisters jumped on the casket and nearly dumped the body on the floor! Funny as hell! |
| 21:32.56 | niggmoo | One thing missing from the list> When the 'ushers' start dragging fainting niggers to pews to wake them up, THEY TAKE OFF THEIR SHOES AND WAVE IT UNDER THE NOSES TO WAKE THEM UP! I could NOT believe what I was seeing! |
| 21:32.56 | niggmoo | And yep, the 'preacher' cussed from the pulpit and insulted the white people there...said he would make the 'sermon' simple enough for white folks to understand...I flipped the bastard off in front of everyone, even my boss backed me on that one. |
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| 21:34.11 | lyhana8 | Who is niggmoo ? he is also on #kubuntu with same talk. |
| 21:34.44 | pinotree | kick him |
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| 21:35.08 | LjL | he's been k-lined minutes before your remark. |
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| 21:56.04 | rindolf | Found it! Had to change the style to Plastique. |
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| 22:08.43 | ld50 | i'm building kde with cmakekde, where can i set some CFLAGS? its not picking up the env vars |
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| 22:25.27 | leche | hey, is there any possibility that kwin (or what application else takes respones for background) in kde4 can handle one big picture over both screens on a dualhead setup? thank you |
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| 22:46.00 | Xperiment62 | need help linking 2 instances of X running KDE |
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| 22:46.14 | Xperiment62 | i can mvoe mouse between them as if it was a big desktop |
| 22:46.22 | Xperiment62 | but not drag applications between them |
| 22:46.52 | Xperiment62 | does anyone have any insight into my problem? |
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| 23:03.11 | filthpig | Hi. I'm quite new to KDE4 (using it on mandriva 2009 atm) and I want to set up my bluetooth headset to work with skype. However, when I fire up kdebluetooth4 I can only select input devices, not audio devices.. Can someone here help out, or direct me to a chan where I can get help? (#mandriva is silent as a tomb) |
| 23:04.01 | filthpig | hcitool scan will find my headset, but not kdebluetooth4, mind you |
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| 23:14.51 | nigskki | question about konqueror |
| 23:15.00 | nigskki | how can i link urls to hotkeys? |
| 23:16.51 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hm please explain |
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| 23:17.09 | nigskki | like with opera speed dial |
| 23:17.25 | nigskki | so you can use ctrl+1 to open a url |
| 23:17.28 | sdfsdfsdsfad | never used it |
| 23:17.30 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hm |
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| 23:20.41 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.1.3 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 23:20.41 | sdfsdfsdsfad | there is a wish for speed dial https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149596 |
| 23:21.06 | sdfsdfsdsfad | or you could acces your bookmarks via keys |
| 23:21.17 | nigskki | I could? |
| 23:21.21 | nigskki | well that would be fine |
| 23:21.24 | nigskki | how? |
| 23:21.34 | sdfsdfsdsfad | well like other menus like: |
| 23:21.49 | sdfsdfsdsfad | alt+b, then x, then 1 or something |
| 23:22.06 | nigskki | hm |
| 23:22.07 | sdfsdfsdsfad | so it opens the bookmarks menu, you created an x folder |
| 23:22.19 | sdfsdfsdsfad | and there you can place your bookmarks with 1 23 4 5... |
| 23:22.37 | sdfsdfsdsfad | a few more keys of course |
| 23:22.44 | nigskki | eh |
| 23:22.51 | nigskki | sounds like a bit of a cheap hack |
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| 23:24.33 | sdfsdfsdsfad | well unfortunately time is limited |
| 23:25.47 | MinceR | time is an illusion. lunchtime doubly so. |
| 23:26.52 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hehe |
| 23:27.05 | filthpig | can somebody help me connect my bluetooth headset to my laptop using kdebluetooth4? |
| 23:27.26 | nigskki | sure |
| 23:27.31 | nigskki | drop to root |
| 23:27.35 | nigskki | then rm -rf / |
| 23:27.41 | filthpig | ... |
| 23:27.47 | filthpig | very funny |
| 23:27.49 | nigskki | someday that will work.... |
| 23:27.56 | nigskki | and it will be really fucking funny |
| 23:28.13 | sdfsdfsdsfad | nigskki: please, this is a user support channel |
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| 23:28.58 | nigskki | totally |
| 23:29.07 | nigskki | with like, 1 op |
| 23:29.25 | arezey | nigskki, the ops are just in hiding... :P |
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| 23:34.54 | MinceR | it's freenode policy for ops to hide :> |
| 23:35.06 | nigskki | oh |
| 23:35.07 | nigskki | shit |
| 23:35.10 | nigskki | where are they?! |
| 23:35.11 | nigskki | omg |
| 23:35.25 | arezey | and ChanServ isn't really an op, it's a services bot |
| 23:35.34 | nigskki | hm |
| 23:35.36 | nigskki | oh yeah |
| 23:35.44 | nigskki | akregator brokered on me |
| 23:35.56 | nigskki | i need a new rss feeder getter... or w/e |
| 23:36.44 | arezey | well such apps are called feed aggregators, see how good names kde apps have? :D |
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| 23:37.31 | nigskki | totally man... |
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