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| 00:06.38 | FiNeX | goodnight people! |
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| 00:13.13 | kriko | How can I limit kwin FPS - right now it is burning CPU like mad and producing 100FPS |
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| 00:16.10 | aseigo | kriko: sounds like one of the plugins you have turned on might be doing crazy things? turning them off one by one until you find the culprit? |
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| 00:17.47 | tsuraan | Having trouble building kdesupport... |
| 00:18.03 | tsuraan | CMakeFiles/phonon.dir/factory.cpp.o: In function `Phonon::FactoryPrivate::objectDescriptionChanged(Phonon::ObjectDescriptionType)': |
| 00:18.06 | tsuraan | factory.cpp:(.text+0x2c5): undefined reference to `Phonon::Factory::Sender::availableAudioCaptureDevicesChanged()' |
| 00:18.09 | tsuraan | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 00:18.12 | tsuraan | make[2]: *** [phonon/lib/libphonon.so.4.3.0] Error 1 |
| 00:18.14 | tsuraan | make[1]: *** [phonon/phonon/CMakeFiles/phonon.dir/all] Error 2 |
| 00:18.17 | tsuraan | make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... |
| 00:18.19 | tsuraan | [ 30%] Built target QtTelepathyClient |
| 00:18.31 | tsuraan | does that make sense to anybody? |
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| 00:22.12 | ath_ | does someone know of a kde app that allows wireless connections / managing in kde 4.1? i saw wicd mentioned somewhere and tried that, but had no luck. |
| 00:22.25 | kriko | aseigo: enabling vsync helped, but then performance gets bad |
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| 00:40.05 | rufsketch1 | hey all |
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| 00:40.20 | rufsketch1 | how can I change the color and duration of the urgent hint in the kde4 panel? |
| 00:43.52 | rufsketch1 | anyone awake? |
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| 00:51.33 | DanaKil | hi folks |
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| 00:54.49 | jianxin | NickServ |
| 00:54.56 | DrSlony | Help, where can I set my kmenu to display just the program names, not e.g. "Krita Printing and image editing"? (KDE4) |
| 00:55.25 | pinotree | DrSlony: in its configuration, right click on it |
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| 00:55.55 | DrSlony | ah, got it |
| 00:56.02 | DrSlony | i looked everywhere in the menu edit |
| 00:56.31 | DanaKil | #plasma |
| 00:56.36 | DanaKil | oups |
| 00:56.37 | DrSlony | I installed Lancelot, how do i set KDE to use it as the k menu? |
| 00:56.59 | DanaKil | just drag it in your panel |
| 00:57.40 | DrSlony | drag it from where? |
| 00:58.02 | DanaKil | from the "add plasmoid" dialog |
| 00:58.11 | DrSlony | which is where? |
| 00:58.29 | DanaKil | right clic on your panel, unlock plasmoid, then add plasmoid |
| 00:58.41 | DanaKil | (don't know the exact english translation) |
| 00:58.57 | DanaKil | and double clic on the "lancelot" line |
| 00:59.24 | DanaKil | you can drag applet to your desktop too |
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| 01:00.53 | DrSlony | got it, thanks a lot! :) |
| 01:01.00 | DrSlony | plasmoid = widget in english kde |
| 01:01.59 | DanaKil | actually, "plasmoid" is the "official" name of kde's widget... i spoke about the menu item's label ^^ |
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| 01:02.19 | DrSlony | yeah i know but i meant they call it in that menu a widget :] |
| 01:02.26 | DanaKil | oh, ok :) |
| 01:02.46 | rufsketch1 | how can I change the color and duration of the urgent hint in the kde4 panel? |
| 01:03.26 | BassMan | How do you tell KDE to reload the desktop background? KDE 4.1 on Fedora 9 |
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| 01:04.22 | Half-Left | reload? |
| 01:05.04 | BassMan | I couldn't find a way to directly set the background image, but if there is that will work also |
| 01:05.26 | BassMan | if not I thought the best way would be to write the new image to the configuration file and have KDE reload it |
| 01:05.30 | DanaKil | you don't have a "configure desktop" item in the desktop menu ? |
| 01:05.47 | BassMan | No I do, but I need to be able to do it programatically |
| 01:06.00 | pinotree | you cannot yet |
| 01:06.00 | DanaKil | ok |
| 01:06.06 | DanaKil | so i think you should reload plasma |
| 01:06.13 | DanaKil | "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
| 01:06.26 | DanaKil | i don't know how to reload just the wallpaper |
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| 01:07.43 | BassMan | so pinotree do you know for sure that there isn't a binding for it yet? |
| 01:07.44 | rufsketch1 | or just ignore me... that works too -_- |
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| 01:08.17 | pinotree | BassMan: unless quitting and restarting plasma? no |
| 01:08.37 | BassMan | alright thank you for your help. Thank you too DanaKil |
| 01:08.38 | DanaKil | not sure but I think you must manually edit your plasma theme rufsketch1 |
| 01:08.52 | rufsketch1 | DanaKil: how? |
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| 01:10.15 | danakil_ | oups |
| 01:10.20 | danakil_ | "don't remember where there are stored, somewhere in .kde" |
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| 01:13.54 | Hailsematary | hi, I couldn't find the show desktop shortcut in kde 4.1.2 |
| 01:14.20 | danakil_ | rufsketch1 > in "/usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme" you have the default theme installed (at least for kubuntu) |
| 01:14.29 | Hailsematary | sorry 4.1.3 |
| 01:14.30 | Hailsematary | :) |
| 01:14.44 | Hailsematary | in keyboard shortcuts, I looked at kwin |
| 01:14.48 | Half-Left | How do you mean, show desktop? |
| 01:14.59 | danakil_ | you can edit them or copy one of them and install it in your home at .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme |
| 01:15.04 | Hailsematary | I mean when I press ctrl+alt+d, I want to see the desktop |
| 01:15.09 | Hailsematary | all windows minimized |
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| 01:18.10 | freebsdlover | who has a vista style theme |
| 01:18.15 | danakil_ | Hailsematary > can't find it, maybe it dissapeared from KDE4 :/ |
| 01:18.32 | Hailsematary | danakil_: ohh noo |
| 01:18.34 | Hailsematary | I hope not |
| 01:18.45 | Hailsematary | I frequently use that property :) |
| 01:18.52 | danakil_ | there is a plasmoid for that but I prefear a shortcut ... |
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| 01:19.05 | Hailsematary | danakil_ I know and use that plasmoid too =) |
| 01:19.18 | Hailsematary | however I'm a pure shortcut lover ;) |
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| 01:19.28 | danakil_ | :) |
| 01:19.37 | katoda | hi all :) |
| 01:20.00 | danakil_ | maybe someone know if there is a "kdcop" equivalent for dbus, there is maybe a command line for that |
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| 01:20.11 | katoda | does anybody know how can I add a shortcut to a KMenu using the console only (KDE 3.5.10)? |
| 01:20.30 | drantin | qdbus ? |
| 01:20.45 | danakil_ | drantin > it exists ? |
| 01:20.54 | danakil_ | somewhere in svn maybe ? |
| 01:21.03 | drantin | ... |
| 01:21.09 | joe-coder | in system settings / about me, i can't get it to save a path change to the desktop. i accidentally changed it to my home fodler and can't change it back. |
| 01:21.15 | drantin | it comes with Qt |
| 01:21.31 | danakil_ | oh ^^ |
| 01:22.23 | joe-coder | what file stores the setting of the about me control panel in system settings? |
| 01:22.32 | joe-coder | or where can i look? |
| 01:23.40 | aseigo | rufsketch1: color is dependant on the svg theme |
| 01:23.52 | aseigo | rufsketch1: duration is 4 blinks and then forever. i don't think it's configurable atm.. |
| 01:23.53 | aseigo | looks |
| 01:24.12 | rufsketch1 | aseigo: :\. this really is the kind of thing that should be configurable |
| 01:24.16 | rufsketch1 | including the color |
| 01:24.34 | rufsketch1 | though i realize te fact that its svg based makes configuring colors a bit more difficult to program |
| 01:24.45 | freebsdlover | is there any vista theme? |
| 01:25.17 | aseigo | yeah, it's not conigurable atm... |
| 01:25.28 | danakil_ | if there is no vista theme at kde-look.org, i don't think for the moment freebsdlover |
| 01:25.28 | aseigo | no, colour makes no sense |
| 01:25.51 | aseigo | that's completely up to the theme (including whether to use custom colours or system colours) |
| 01:26.02 | aseigo | but random colours? to what end? |
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| 01:26.16 | aseigo | it either works with the theme, or it doesn't, the theme knows best.. so all that travels with the theme itself |
| 01:26.21 | aseigo | as for blink duration .. well .. |
| 01:26.42 | aseigo | in kicker it was configurable, but only through the config file. i know that because i adde it in... 3.4? after some people asked for it |
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| 01:26.49 | aseigo | i'm not sure what the point of that is either, though, tbh... |
| 01:27.03 | katoda | anyone? |
| 01:27.06 | aseigo | a few blinks and then a nice clear "hey, this task wants your attention" is good |
| 01:27.13 | aseigo | the theme in 4.2 is really, really clear about that as well |
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| 01:27.40 | aseigo | katoda: "the a kmenu" == a program in the menu? |
| 01:27.41 | joe-coder | are you also trying to get taskbar entries to flash? |
| 01:27.44 | aseigo | katoda: or the menu itself |
| 01:27.48 | joe-coder | mine don't flash at all. |
| 01:27.54 | katoda | a shortcut in a menu |
| 01:27.55 | aseigo | joe-coder: they do here =) |
| 01:28.07 | joe-coder | is there a setting? |
| 01:28.13 | aseigo | katoda: sorry, i still don't understand what you're asking =/ |
| 01:28.14 | joe-coder | i'm running 4.1.something |
| 01:28.17 | katoda | a shortcut to a program in a menu |
| 01:28.28 | aseigo | joe-coder: no, no setting. the default theme was really crappy in that regard in 4.1 |
| 01:28.43 | katoda | I have to write a bash script that adds a shortcut to a program in a menu in KDE |
| 01:28.53 | katoda | my boss wants me to do one |
| 01:28.55 | aseigo | katoda: ah, ok =) and you can't use the keyboard shortcuts control panel or the menu editor? ah.. ok, bash script |
| 01:30.50 | katoda | I've found something in .local/share, but it all goes to my Lost&Found part of the KMenu |
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| 01:31.27 | katoda | *~/.local/share/ |
| 01:31.27 | aseigo | yeah, it's done in a config file.. |
| 01:31.43 | aseigo | katoda: i think in `kde-config --localprefix`/share/config/khotkeysrc |
| 01:32.09 | aseigo | katoda: do one using the GUI and look in khotkeysrc |
| 01:32.19 | danakil_ | aseigo > just a quick question : i was thinking about doing a plasmoid from Klipper, with a dataengine which provide the last clipboard entry. do you think it can be useful as a plasmoid or it's better as a Kapp ? |
| 01:32.20 | katoda | ok, I'd go in that way :) |
| 01:32.26 | aseigo | katoda: as for making the changes with the bash script, kreadconfig and kwriteconfig are awesome |
| 01:32.49 | katoda | hope they are well-documented :) |
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| 01:33.30 | KDE4000 | hello, how can i make KDE3 refresh its screensaver list? |
| 01:33.33 | aseigo | katoda: e.g. kwriteconfig --file khotkeysrc --group <something> --key <something> <value> |
| 01:33.42 | aseigo | katoda: yes.. just do kwriteconfig --help |
| 01:33.51 | aseigo | katoda: it's pretty self explanatory from there =) |
| 01:34.07 | aseigo | katoda: it prevents you having to do all the config file parsing, which is the big thing |
| 01:34.12 | katoda | aseigo: ok, big thx for Your help :) |
| 01:34.16 | aseigo | katoda: np =) |
| 01:34.20 | aseigo | KDE4000: refresh? |
| 01:34.28 | KDE4000 | aseigo: no |
| 01:34.45 | aseigo | KDE4000: that was a question... "what do you mean by refresh?" |
| 01:34.47 | KDE4000 | aseigo: i added screensavers (xscreensaver) |
| 01:35.01 | KDE4000 | and the screensavers arent listed in kde |
| 01:35.46 | aseigo | ah, you also need to add the .desktop files for them so kde can "see" them |
| 01:35.50 | KDE4000 | ew |
| 01:35.52 | KDE4000 | :/ |
| 01:35.54 | KDE4000 | im on Gentoo |
| 01:35.59 | aseigo | if you installed from a distro package, they should have those in a package as well |
| 01:36.00 | aseigo | oh.. |
| 01:36.04 | aseigo | enjoy =) |
| 01:36.09 | KDE4000 | i can copy them from my SuSE |
| 01:36.10 | KDE4000 | probaly |
| 01:36.14 | KDE4000 | where are they stored? |
| 01:37.43 | danakil_ | aseigo > any thoughts about my question ? :3 I don't know if dataengine is a good candidate for that |
| 01:38.32 | aseigo | KDE4000: hm.. in kde? i think in share/applnk/System/Screensavers |
| 01:38.50 | aseigo | KDE4000: in kde4 they are in the more 'standard' location share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/ |
| 01:39.04 | aseigo | KDE4000: kde3: in share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers |
| 01:39.46 | KDE4000 | found them, thanks |
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| 01:42.34 | KDE4000 | its listed, but doesnt work |
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| 01:43.56 | joe-coder | i can't figure out how to change my desktop path |
| 01:44.16 | joe-coder | system settings -> about me -> paths |
| 01:44.19 | joe-coder | this fails. |
| 01:44.30 | joe-coder | it won't save the changes i make. |
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| 02:01.01 | frankS2 | http://franks.algorit.me/kdewtf.png why is this happening? |
| 02:01.10 | frankS2 | half of my screen is not used by kde |
| 02:01.15 | frankS2 | anyone seen this problem before? |
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| 02:02.48 | aseigo | frankS2: it's being lied to be xrandr. this should be resolved in 4.2 |
| 02:03.09 | aseigo | frankS2: do windows also only expand to that smaller rectangle when maximized? |
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| 02:03.29 | aseigo | gives frankS2 some new fonts too =) |
| 02:03.37 | DanaKil | damn wifi... give me my RJ45 back -__- |
| 02:03.40 | frankS2 | aseigo: yes , but it is possible to drag windows to the empty area |
| 02:03.42 | frankS2 | Installed versions: 4.1.3(4.1)(09:28:24 11/13/08)(-accessibility) |
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| 02:03.48 | frankS2 | thats KDE |
| 02:04.02 | aseigo | frankS2: right, so if the windows only maximize to that area that kwin is equally confused. |
| 02:04.17 | aseigo | frankS2: which means qt is lieing to us because xrandr is being a dick to qt |
| 02:04.28 | frankS2 | blargh, how can i fix this |
| 02:04.43 | aseigo | frankS2: so ... solutions ... you might be able to "unifiy screens" using the krandrtray app |
| 02:05.06 | aseigo | frankS2: hm.. your distro should have shipped a patched qt though that works around this issue most of the time |
| 02:05.26 | aseigo | frankS2: ultimately we use something completely new in 4.2 so we don't have to put up with it anymore =( sorry for the pain in between |
| 02:05.36 | aseigo | glares at keithp some more |
| 02:05.52 | g1lt | okay so I cannot open any kde4 applications as root. does anyone know why this could be happening? |
| 02:06.08 | g1lt | su -c provides the same result |
| 02:06.08 | frankS2 | g1lt: first of all you shouldnt open them as root |
| 02:06.10 | aseigo | g1lt: what does it say on the console? |
| 02:06.16 | g1lt | nothing, it just hangs |
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| 02:06.24 | g1lt | what about systemsettings |
| 02:06.38 | g1lt | if I can't open it as root there's no way to configure restricted options |
| 02:06.47 | g1lt | login manager for one |
| 02:07.46 | aseigo | those need to be ported to use helper apps (e.g. the time and date one already has) |
| 02:07.46 | Jucato | frankS2: they can open it as root, just not with su or sudo |
| 02:08.10 | aseigo | Jucato: actually, no.. not in kde4 .. we removed "run kcmshells in the control center as another priveleged user" |
| 02:08.22 | aseigo | Jucato: it's a bad idea for the same reason running it via su or sudo is |
| 02:08.24 | Jucato | aseigo: not even with kdesu? |
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| 02:08.29 | aseigo | points to policykit |
| 02:08.36 | Jucato | yeah, but in the meantime? |
| 02:08.59 | Jucato | while waiting for policykit.. not all of us has the privilege of having kdesudo ;) |
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| 02:10.17 | aseigo | in the meantime it does work, yes, with kdesu |
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| 02:10.27 | g1lt | so I should get ksudo? |
| 02:10.35 | aseigo | ksudo kcmshell4 <whatever> |
| 02:10.45 | aseigo | just tried to ensure that works ;) |
| 02:10.53 | aseigo | kcmshell4 --list <-- gets you the list of modules |
| 02:11.26 | Jucato | `kde4-config --path libexec`/kdesu <program name> |
| 02:11.34 | Jucato | aseigo: should I stop giving that out? |
| 02:12.06 | Jucato | (it didn't come from me originally btw.. I think I saw it from pino) |
| 02:12.36 | aseigo | Jucato: for now it's fine .. when all the control panels get sanitized then we can stop doing so |
| 02:13.02 | Jucato | aseigo: yeah. I'm looking forward to that day. so that I don't have to type an insanely long command for people :) |
| 02:13.26 | Jucato | it's a "in the meantime" kind of solution :) |
| 02:13.55 | Jucato | consolekit, policykit, packagekit, webkit, kdekit |
| 02:13.56 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:14.12 | g1lt | how do I get kde4-config? |
| 02:14.24 | Jucato | g1lt: it should be there by default |
| 02:14.30 | g1lt | as user? |
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| 02:14.37 | Jucato | yeah |
| 02:14.47 | Jucato | this is the exact command: `kde4-config --path libexec`/kdesu <program name> |
| 02:15.00 | Jucato | of course replace <program name> with the program you need to execute |
| 02:15.05 | aseigo | goes back to debugging |
| 02:15.07 | Jucato | take note of the backticks ` ` |
| 02:15.15 | g1lt | it says kde4-config command not found |
| 02:15.21 | Jucato | O.o |
| 02:15.41 | Jucato | oh... sorry, KDE 3? |
| 02:15.52 | Jucato | wait nvm |
| 02:15.56 | Jucato | it *should* be there... |
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| 02:19.04 | asimkovs | hello? |
| 02:19.29 | aseigo | hello |
| 02:19.32 | aseigo | taps the mic |
| 02:19.52 | Jucato | lowers the volume.. feedback |
| 02:20.18 | asimkovs | har |
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| 02:33.05 | fester2001 | Hi, does anyone know how to adjust scroll bar width in QT based applications? |
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| 02:33.40 | Jucato | fester2001: it depends on the widget style being used, if it has a configuration for that |
| 02:34.31 | TheSimkin | kde is ++ |
| 02:34.33 | TheSimkin | <3 |
| 02:34.38 | TheSimkin | time to play video games now! |
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| 02:35.20 | fester2001 | Jucato, we are using plastik but are open to changing that theme |
| 02:36.38 | Jucato | fester2001: I'm not sure which widget styles have that option. sorry |
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| 02:40.46 | fester2001 | Jucato, any thoughts on where the themes data is saved to? |
| 02:41.21 | Jucato | that depends on what you refer to by "themes". icons? color schemes? widget styles? window decorations? |
| 02:42.13 | fester2001 | i would assume that scroll bars within a window would be controlled by the KDE theme in use? |
| 02:42.36 | fester2001 | so i guess the widget styles as you put it |
| 02:44.08 | Jucato | yeah, that would be the widget style (which is not "the KDE theme" but just a part of it). widget style settings would be in the ~/.qt/ directory though (they are basically QStyles) |
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| 03:16.19 | radams | Is there a way to make widgets ONLY show when I press ctrl F12 to bring up the dashboard? |
| 03:16.43 | radams | (Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.1) |
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| 03:24.57 | workman161 | ctrl+f12 already does that I believe |
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| 03:51.28 | deitarion | Any idea why KDE 4 would have added itself to a KDE 3 session without asking? |
| 03:52.15 | deitarion | (I'm looking for a way to remove certain things (eg. Plasma) and keep others without uninstalling them and losing my ability to start a pure, complete KDE 4 session) |
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| 05:24.17 | fester2001 | Jucato FYI we found a theme called polyester that had wide scroll bars :) |
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| 05:59.38 | rufsketch1 | is it even possible? |
| 05:59.44 | rufsketch1 | i don't see an option to configure it |
| 05:59.49 | rufsketch1 | which is kind of ridiculous |
| 06:00.03 | rufsketch1 | kde4 really needs more configuration options |
| 06:00.48 | rufsketch1 | though, i realize this isn't necessarily up to the actual kde team |
| 06:00.55 | rufsketch1 | the kopete issue i mean |
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| 06:16.11 | evocallaghan | Anyone get more then 78 on the Acid 3 test for 4.1.3 release ? |
| 06:16.21 | evocallaghan | s/Hery/Hey/ |
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| 07:54.35 | evocallaghan | ? |
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| 09:02.59 | blauzahl-laptop | ok, i had to do a hard reboot, and now i have no sound. why |
| 09:03.02 | blauzahl-laptop | ? |
| 09:03.11 | blauzahl-laptop | my speakers are buzzing. |
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| 09:24.10 | supertones | finally the new nvidia 180.06 makes a difference especially with the latest trunk everything is coming together perfectly |
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| 09:24.26 | annma | is there an Italian KDE channel please? |
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| 09:30.46 | thiago_home | supertones: really? |
| 09:31.02 | thiago_home | will give it a shot on Monday then |
| 09:32.12 | blauzahl_ | :( ...I got the plasma shutdown noise. but I didn't get the startup noise. |
| 09:32.26 | blauzahl_ | i have no clue if my sound settings were reset or what.... |
| 09:35.01 | annma | I don't know why there's no "Test Sound" button is systemsettings |
| 09:35.13 | thiago_home | it's missing |
| 09:35.31 | annma | I find it nearly a blocker |
| 09:35.42 | annma | teh whole system settings is a blocker to be frank |
| 09:36.58 | Jucato | annma: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels |
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| 09:37.48 | annma | oh Jucato you're such an encclopedia |
| 09:38.00 | Jucato | lol :) |
| 09:38.12 | Jucato | it just so happened that I updated that page a few days ago |
| 09:38.27 | Jucato | in fact, it was the italian kde channel that I added ;) |
| 09:38.50 | Jucato | (but I forgot if it was #kde-italia or #kde.italia :P) |
| 09:38.58 | blauzahl-laptop | i thought there was a test sound button somewhere. maybe in skype? i tested it, nothing happened. |
| 09:39.18 | Jucato | blauzahl-laptop: there was in KDE 3 |
| 09:39.21 | LinuxDolt | does kde4's sound engine support oss4 yet? |
| 09:39.24 | pinotree | Jucato: the former |
| 09:39.27 | blauzahl-laptop | this is what i get for letting someone else set it up for me, and not paying attention... :P |
| 09:39.35 | pinotree | LinuxDolt: there's no "kde4 sound engine" |
| 09:39.43 | Jucato | pinotree: thanks. sorry all the - and . has me confused :) |
| 09:40.01 | pinotree | Jucato: (ah, there's a typo "#kubunt" vs "#kubuntu") |
| 09:40.17 | Jucato | pinotree: hm.. I'm tempted to leave it as it is ;) |
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| 09:42.01 | LinuxDolt | i see. so what's phonon? |
| 09:42.08 | annma | ah I see a test button now |
| 09:42.18 | annma | slaps hersel |
| 09:42.22 | Jucato | f |
| 09:42.24 | Jucato | :P |
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| 09:42.37 | Jucato | picks up annma's 'f' for her |
| 09:42.49 | annma | the devices list is cryptic but there's a Test button!!!! |
| 09:43.08 | annma | blauzahl-laptop: can't you try it? |
| 09:43.21 | blauzahl-laptop | try what? |
| 09:43.25 | annma | excellent!! |
| 09:43.28 | blauzahl-laptop | there is no sound. :) |
| 09:43.33 | blauzahl-laptop | i get buzzzzz |
| 09:43.35 | annma | the Test button in systemsettings sound! |
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| 09:43.49 | annma | when you test in system settings? |
| 09:44.03 | annma | for notifications? |
| 09:44.10 | annma | any device? |
| 09:44.19 | annma | any engine? |
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| 09:44.36 | blauzahl-laptop | oh, there is a little button in the bottom corner that says "test" |
| 09:44.47 | annma | yes! |
| 09:44.57 | annma | it hides itself |
| 09:44.59 | Jucato | scratches his head |
| 09:45.06 | blauzahl-laptop | it is never non-grayed out |
| 09:45.15 | blauzahl-laptop | i had the window half off the screen. |
| 09:45.17 | annma | yo need to select a device |
| 09:45.20 | Jucato | must be a trunk thing |
| 09:45.36 | annma | that's good! |
| 09:45.41 | blauzahl-laptop | i'm trying. it does nothing. |
| 09:45.43 | annma | a kcm that improved!!! |
| 09:45.52 | LinuxDolt | lol |
| 09:46.01 | annma | but in the list I have Default |
| 09:46.06 | annma | the hw:0.0 |
| 09:46.14 | annma | then hw:0.0 |
| 09:46.19 | annma | what is all that really |
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| 09:46.35 | annma | but testing works and my sound works |
| 09:47.26 | annma | the Test button is even a toggle one!!! |
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| 09:47.53 | blauzahl-laptop | oh, right. other information: i get a message that says something when wrong with my audio devices cahce and to put phonondevicesrc on bug #173163 |
| 09:48.01 | blauzahl-laptop | and that kde detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed, and it want sto know if i shoul delete pcsp ones |
| 09:48.12 | annma | blauzahl-laptop: wow now that's good |
| 09:48.14 | blauzahl-laptop | but i got this before, and my sound still worked |
| 09:48.20 | blauzahl-laptop | is it? |
| 09:48.27 | annma | well yes, it helps you |
| 09:48.32 | annma | I find that real good |
| 09:48.55 | annma | there's a test button and some output telling you what to do |
| 09:50.15 | annma | there's no Help though on this module but that's to be expected |
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| 09:53.28 | blauzahl-laptop | i think it is too late for me to figure this out. |
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| 10:00.17 | blauzahl-laptop | i don't find this output very u seful, really |
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| 10:00.51 | annma | no? |
| 10:00.56 | annma | I do |
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| 10:05.14 | blauzahl-laptop | ok, what should my thought processes be? i really don't understand linux sound, for one. |
| 10:05.32 | annma | if it worked then you changed something |
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| 10:05.52 | blauzahl-laptop | no, i didn't change anything, and it still deosn't work. |
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| 10:06.05 | annma | you said it worked at some point |
| 10:06.10 | blauzahl-laptop | after a reboot. it stopped working. maybe just a kde restart. but i did just have two reboots |
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| 10:06.47 | blauzahl-laptop | still, i had these two messages before, and yet i also had sound. |
| 10:06.50 | blauzahl-laptop | so something worked |
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| 10:30.39 | Moult | i'm on gentoo, what do i need to do to enable desktop effects? (i have xcomposite and opengl global useflags, and i think i've enabled X11 compositing) |
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| 10:49.53 | Cappyyyy | any1 got KDE 4.1.3 working on gentoo |
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| 10:53.16 | deitarion | What was the name of the KDE development channel? I need to ask someone about how tray icons in KDE apps bypass Kwin's focus-stealing prevention. |
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| 10:53.39 | deitarion | (I'm trying to write a PyQt4 app and I can't get the tray icon to work properly because KWin interferes) |
| 10:55.00 | Jucato | deitarion: #kde-devel or #kwin |
| 10:55.07 | deitarion | Jucato: Thanks. |
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| 11:00.08 | Moult | my folderview applet opens dirs in konqueror. how do i get it to open in dolphin? |
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| 11:00.57 | Jucato | check System Settings -> Advanced tab -> File Associations -> inode/directory to see what is the default file manager |
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| 11:02.32 | Moult | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:02.51 | Moult | i'm on gentoo, what do i need to do to enable desktop effects? (i have xcomposite and opengl global useflags, and i think i've enabled X11 compositing) |
| 11:04.01 | Moult | hmm |
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| 11:04.29 | johannes_ | hello! is anyone experienced using kdevelop and mxmlc/flex together?? |
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| 11:09.38 | Geisari | Hey, can someone help me.. x.org seems to use over 20 % of my processor, and ~100 mb of my ram |
| 11:09.50 | Geisari | This is kubuntu 8,10 |
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| 11:13.50 | Geisari | Plz PM me if someone can help! =) |
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| 11:50.21 | judgen | how do i set the standard kde3 style dekstop (the icons and such) |
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| 12:10.58 | NSaibot | what are variable height panel (which are supposed to be in kde 4.3)? |
| 12:11.52 | Kame2 | i think (don't know) that they grow in high, if needed by e plasmoid |
| 12:11.58 | Kame2 | e->a |
| 12:12.37 | NSaibot | ahh, yea that makes sense :) |
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| 12:14.12 | gergap | hi |
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| 12:14.38 | gergap | I'm actually trying to register my software during the install using the xdg-utils. |
| 12:15.17 | gergap | The good thing, it works. But it is not reflected in the KDE menu immediatly, Mostly I need to open the menu two time to see the changes. |
| 12:15.33 | gergap | Does anyone know how and when the menu gets updated? |
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| 12:16.39 | Bundestrojaner | hello |
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| 12:16.56 | Bundestrojaner | someone here knowing how kde4 runs on gentoo 64bit? |
| 12:17.30 | Bundestrojaner | it's still masked... |
| 12:17.40 | Half-Left | buckethead: Ask #gentoo |
| 12:17.46 | Half-Left | Bundestrojaner: ^ |
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| 12:18.27 | Bundestrojaner | i'm also asked there, but it seens there's nobody using it - i hoped here are some gentoo-users with kde4 |
| 12:19.29 | Half-Left | we onjly discuss KDE not kde packages from your distros anyway :p |
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| 12:20.17 | Bundestrojaner | lol, i thought you get reports about problems, stabilitys,... here |
| 12:20.22 | Kame2 | Bundestrojaner: runs very good for me |
| 12:20.34 | Kame2 | use it as the only de on my laptop |
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| 12:22.08 | Bundestrojaner | :) |
| 12:22.09 | Bundestrojaner | ok, thx |
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| 12:22.36 | Bundestrojaner | i think gentoo is very slow in unmasking :( |
| 12:22.36 | Bundestrojaner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:22.45 | Bundestrojaner | ok, thx for help |
| 12:22.46 | Bundestrojaner | bye |
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| 12:27.43 | gergap | Bundestrojaner: I've it running on gentoo 32bit |
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| 12:28.04 | judgen | Anyone know of a plasma theme that looks a bit more "unixy" |
| 12:28.37 | judgen | everything looks so flat. |
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| 12:29.30 | judgen | oh i was just looking in the wrong section of kde-look |
| 12:29.31 | judgen | hehe |
| 12:29.33 | judgen | sorry |
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| 13:01.53 | ilaiho | Hi! |
| 13:02.46 | ilaiho | There is a problem in ktechlab on Debian Etch |
| 13:02.57 | ilaiho | It crashes when you try to add a component |
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| 13:03.12 | ilaiho | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=ktechlab |
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| 13:05.27 | lenscape | are there any plans to make KDE play nicely with Compiz-Fusion? |
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| 13:13.05 | nick01 | why was kwrite removed from kde 3.5 ? :| |
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| 13:14.50 | Jucato | nick01: who said it was? |
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| 13:15.47 | nick01 | Jucato, at least for some reason I can't find it in gentoo's 3.5 ebuilds and someone in #gentoo-kde said it never was included in 3.5 that it's new (I know better on that one) |
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| 13:16.17 | Jucato | whoever said that is greatly greatly mistaken |
| 13:16.55 | nick01 | Jucato, yeah lol I know, but then I wonder why it's not in gentoo anymore |
| 13:16.56 | Jucato | kwrite is the default text editor of KDE 3(.5) (and KDE 4 as well). kate is only secondary in KDE 3.5 (although Kubuntu made it the default) |
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| 13:17.22 | Jucato | split ebuilds.. maybe it's buried under kdebase-apps-desktop-text-editor-kwrite? |
| 13:18.27 | nick01 | Jucato, I did locate kwrite | grep portage, only kde 4 versions show up |
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| 13:20.13 | Jucato | nick01: or maybe it's under a kate ebuild? since in 3.5 they're from the same source code, in any case, you'll have better chances of getting an answer in #gentoo-kde |
| 13:20.34 | Jucato | and here's proof of KWrite in KDE 3.5.10: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.5.0/kdebase/kate/app/ (last 2 files) |
| 13:20.45 | nick01 | ok I'll ask |
| 13:22.55 | lenscape | are KDE and Compiz going work well together sometime? |
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| 13:23.58 | pinotree | a less generic question? |
| 13:25.28 | lenscape | me? |
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| 13:25.43 | pinotree | yes |
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| 13:26.19 | lenscape | well, the pager and anything to do with multiple desktops on Compiz isn't integrated with the way KDE does things |
| 13:26.28 | untitled | hello. how can I enter kcontrol in kde4 with root priveleges? |
| 13:26.34 | nick01 | Jucato, it seems kate was already built and I found kwrite installed in /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps I guess you were right and it was built by the kate ebuild, someone in gentoo-kde said it might be part of kate too :) |
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| 13:26.37 | lenscape | so you can't use any of the nice KDE tweaks to control windows |
| 13:27.05 | lenscape | because KDE doesn't understand viewports, I'm told |
| 13:27.05 | pinotree | tell the compiz developers to use standard ways for eg virtual desktops |
| 13:27.12 | Jucato | lenscape: that burden lies on compiz. they implement virtual desktops differently |
| 13:27.29 | Jucato | or rather, they don't implement virtual desktops at all |
| 13:27.46 | Jucato | but hey, they made it work with GNOME (which uses virtual desktops), so it's not impossible |
| 13:28.24 | lenscape | as I've had a similar discussion with the Compiz guys, the future doesn't look too good. |
| 13:28.28 | pinotree | it should work in kde4 |
| 13:28.31 | lenscape | both partied blame the other for doing it wrong |
| 13:28.38 | lenscape | parties* |
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| 13:29.24 | pinotree | well, there was a standard way of doing it, and all the others WMs for X11 use it... except compiz that reinvented them in a brand new brokeness |
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| 13:30.47 | lenscape | oh well. I guess pressure will get things working together one way or the other. I won't hold my breath. |
| 13:30.48 | Jucato | lenscape: but in a way, they have to do that viewport thingy to make some of their effects possible. like splitting an app in between two "desktops" (actually 2 viewports) |
| 13:32.16 | lenscape | I'm not a big fan of too many effects but the subtle ones do seem to make things nicer to use and less clunky feeling. |
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| 13:32.57 | SSJ_GZ | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3223 |
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| 14:18.31 | freqmod_qu | Does anybody know a way to make kmail (kde 4.1) not autodetect which profile it should use for sending e-mails and therefore setting the wrong reply-to |
| 14:18.32 | freqmod_qu | ? |
| 14:18.46 | freqmod_qu | when replying to an e-mail |
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| 14:22.38 | untitled | hi! does kde 4.1.3 use dcop or dbus? |
| 14:22.53 | Tanktalus | I'm pretty sure kde 4 uses dbus... |
| 14:23.02 | pinotree | dbus |
| 14:23.45 | untitled | ok |
| 14:24.03 | untitled | and does someone know how to make conky transparent in kde4? :) |
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| 14:25.42 | pinotree | ask to the conky developers, i'd say |
| 14:26.23 | Dai | hi i have two questions : i've installed the skulpture theme and i've changed the theme of the windows, how can i change the theme of the main bar (at the bottom) ; and i have another question : i am in the keyboard shortcuts and i can't find the shortcut to minimize all windows and show the desktop |
| 14:26.49 | jazka | untitled: run it as own window, then change the opacity and hide the borders |
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| 14:44.40 | vizzy | hi, i use debian and kde 3.5, if i login everything is fine, if my girlfriend logs in the numpad doesnt work, any idea whats wrong? i dont see an option in kcontrol to get the numpad back |
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| 14:46.57 | vizzy | ok found it, for some odd reason the keyboardmouse was enabled and the settings are in mouse options not in keyboard options, ... argh |
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| 14:50.53 | untitled | how can I get a transparent taskbar in kde4? :) |
| 14:51.05 | Hydrogen | use a transparent theme |
| 14:51.49 | Jucato | and have desktop effects enabled |
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| 14:52.28 | Hydrogen | no, svg transparency doesn't require desktop effects |
| 14:52.34 | Hydrogen | I don't think |
| 14:53.06 | pinotree | correct |
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| 14:53.42 | Jucato | except that with desktop effects turned off, my glassified panel is anything but glass :) |
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| 14:55.01 | judgen | I had a silly problem with the kde bar, no i use gnome-panel in kde4 and it loks awsome =) |
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| 14:56.13 | untitled | can you give a link to some transparent bar theme? :) |
| 14:57.01 | Jucato | glassified, arezzo, http://www.kde-look.org |
| 14:57.14 | Jucato | (which you can access from the Desktop Settings dialog) |
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| 14:58.11 | judgen | btw what process in kde4 is resposible for the desktop? |
| 14:58.15 | pinotree | plasma |
| 15:00.06 | judgen | hehe oh yeah |
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| 15:00.36 | judgen | Can i disable the default so that plasma does not get loaded at startup? |
| 15:00.45 | mib_9re1p5em | yeH |
| 15:00.50 | mib_9re1p5em | YOU Cn |
| 15:01.50 | judgen | I love the updated kwin and the desktop compositing effects. (No more compiz for me) But i dont like plasma, i prefer to have nothing instead. |
| 15:02.12 | mib_9re1p5em | Why?? |
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| 15:02.44 | judgen | mib_9re1p5em: i dont know... why does people like different things. Its just that i want to use idesk instead i guess. |
| 15:03.31 | judgen | also i havent had time to leanr how to efficiently use plasma yet. Maybe one day |
| 15:03.52 | Hydrogen | so |
| 15:03.56 | Hydrogen | "I hate it cause it's different" |
| 15:04.01 | Hydrogen | lets be honest :> |
| 15:04.05 | judgen | No i dont hate it. |
| 15:04.13 | mib_9re1p5em | ok |
| 15:04.28 | judgen | ive just gotten used to idesk.. |
| 15:04.42 | mib_9re1p5em | Plasma kind of liquid |
| 15:04.42 | judgen | so how do i do it? |
| 15:05.00 | judgen | can i just blacklist the plasma binary or would that mess stuff up? |
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| 15:05.28 | mib_9re1p5em | no |
| 15:05.29 | judgen | i could just make a script that kills plasma after login i guess. |
| 15:05.41 | mib_9re1p5em | it more to make effecian |
| 15:05.42 | picca | anyone here able to compile kdebindings 4.1.3 or SVN |
| 15:06.16 | judgen | mib_9re1p5em: sorry i didnt quite get the last sentence... |
| 15:07.01 | mib_9re1p5em | it mean little thing to do but more it mean |
| 15:07.26 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: I can compile trunk, but I have to disable a few things. |
| 15:07.38 | picca- | what do you disable SSJ_GZ |
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| 15:07.55 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: I can't remember offhand - Phonon Smoke, maybe? |
| 15:08.14 | picca- | yeah that is the problem i am getting with smoke phonon |
| 15:08.20 | judgen | What would happen if i just renamed the plasma binary or blacklisted it? |
| 15:08.23 | picca- | okay will check the config options |
| 15:08.46 | judgen | I love the run dialogue in kde4 |
| 15:08.47 | judgen | just awsome |
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| 15:09.47 | judgen | ok restarting x and hope it works. |
| 15:10.05 | picca- | SSJ_GZ: how do you disable things using cmake |
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| 15:10.19 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: ccmake <build directory> |
| 15:10.32 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: Then set things via the ncurses GUI |
| 15:10.41 | sorush20 | using kubuntu how do I save the current kde session with a list of programs to pop up? |
| 15:10.52 | picca- | bloody hell not seen this before SSJ_GZ .. thanks for that |
| 15:10.56 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: Then Configure (C?) and then Generate and Exit (G?) |
| 15:11.16 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: np - I didn't know about it until a couple of days ago when richmoore told me :) |
| 15:11.22 | Jucato | disable smoke and ruby stuff |
| 15:11.24 | picca- | SSJ_GZ: this is excellent |
| 15:11.27 | Hydrogen | there should be a cmake-gui on linux as well now |
| 15:11.34 | Hydrogen | i believe |
| 15:11.37 | SSJ_GZ | Jucato: Ruby actually works for me :) |
| 15:11.39 | Hydrogen | I know there is on windows ;> |
| 15:11.45 | Half-Left | sorush20: Leave them open, but apps ned to support session saving |
| 15:11.48 | Hydrogen | i thought I read that it was added on linux |
| 15:12.02 | Jucato | SSJ_GZ: iirc I got an error even after disabling smoke.ruby was looking for smoke stuff |
| 15:12.20 | SSJ_GZ | Jucato: Interesting. I'll post my config |
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| 15:12.32 | judgen | Worked like a charm |
| 15:12.45 | sorush20 | oh okay |
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| 15:13.18 | judgen | thanks for the help |
| 15:15.12 | SSJ_GZ | picca-, Jucato : http://pastebin.com/m17527797 |
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| 15:16.07 | Jucato | SSJ_GZ: you enabled smoke |
| 15:16.15 | picca- | thanks for that SSJ_GZ |
| 15:16.31 | SSJ_GZ | Jucato: Yep - I think it's just the Phonon stuff that breaks for me. |
| 15:16.33 | Jucato | I get problems building kdebindings because of smoke. I tried to disable smoke, but then a few ruby errors happened |
| 15:16.36 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: np |
| 15:16.39 | Jucato | 4.1.3 btw |
| 15:16.48 | SSJ_GZ | Jucato: Ah - I'm using trunk |
| 15:17.06 | Jucato | I haven't tried building kdebindings again. I didn't need it anyway :) |
| 15:17.35 | SSJ_GZ | Hehe - yeah, it introduces a lot of headaches, in my experience :) |
| 15:17.40 | picca- | i am about to do a clean compile with phonon smoke disabled - fingers crossed |
| 15:17.54 | SSJ_GZ | I want the next release of KDE4Daily to make it really easy to create ruby and python Plasmoids, though. |
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| 15:21.37 | judgen | Anyone know if konversation using qt4 will be available in a forseeable future? |
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| 15:23.17 | untitled | sorry for the dumb question, but how can I apply a theme? |
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| 15:23.40 | untitled | a plasma one |
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| 15:24.25 | picca- | SSJ_GZ: you are genious lol - it has fixed the problem |
| 15:24.30 | pinotree | right click on the destkop â desktop settings â theme? |
| 15:24.30 | SSJ_GZ | Yay! |
| 15:24.35 | picca- | thanks SSJ_GZ |
| 15:24.52 | SSJ_GZ | picca-: It's more of a "workaround" than a "fix", though. |
| 15:25.16 | picca- | SSJ_GZ: yeah hopefuly they will fix whatever it is |
| 15:25.18 | untitled | thanks |
| 15:25.48 | Dai | hi i have two questions : i've installed the skulpture theme and i've changed the theme of the windows, how can i change the theme of the main bar (at the bottom) ; and i have another question : i am in the keyboard shortcuts and i can't find the shortcut to minimize all windows and show the desktop |
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| 15:35.53 | untitled | can I make a panel smaller? |
| 15:36.03 | untitled | not so high |
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| 15:45.38 | judgen | Quick question how do i increase the window snapping threashold? |
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| 15:52.23 | DanaKil | hi |
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| 15:56.54 | junkDawgie | hello DanaKil, most just come in and state their question.... if someone looking has an answer.... you get a reply... :) |
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| 16:02.24 | judgen | Now kde4 is pretty enough for me =) http://judgen.googlepages.com/Screenshot-kde4.jpeg |
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| 16:04.10 | judgen | Maybe a little bit bright but ill survive, |
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| 16:06.23 | DanaKil | oh my god, you're listening to Dalida |
| 16:06.29 | DanaKil | ;) |
| 16:07.10 | sjraarke | Hi all, how can I see what commands are executed when I exit a KDE session? |
| 16:07.30 | judgen | DanaKil: Yeah she is great. |
| 16:07.36 | pinotree | sjraarke: what is the real problem? |
| 16:07.39 | DanaKil | ^ |
| 16:07.41 | DanaKil | ^^ |
| 16:08.45 | untitled | doesn't like this BIG panel... |
| 16:08.46 | sjraarke | pinotree: It's a question I got from someone else, I don't know what the problem is |
| 16:09.01 | pinotree | then ask the real problem |
| 16:10.35 | annma | untitled: panel size can be reduced of course |
| 16:10.40 | judgen | DanaKil: you dont like her? |
| 16:10.41 | annma | untitled: this is default |
| 16:10.43 | Half-Left | untitled: KDE4.1? |
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| 16:11.05 | DanaKil | I do but it's not very common, that's all ;) |
| 16:11.56 | Rasi | hmm |
| 16:11.58 | Rasi | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uykUGdiPttw/SR7PsyKa5UI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/I2MKUokRvvM/s1600/kmail01.png |
| 16:12.04 | Rasi | how does one archieve this? |
| 16:12.14 | Rasi | (the today/yesterday) things in the list |
| 16:12.39 | SSJ_GZ | Rasi: Do you have KDE trunk installed? |
| 16:12.46 | Rasi | yes |
| 16:13.37 | Half-Left | theme:Fancy with clickable status |
| 16:13.45 | sjraarke | pinotree: He want's to know what script is executed when logging out so he can add his own commands |
| 16:13.54 | SSJ_GZ | Rasi: Maybe ask on Jos's blog, then - then everyone will know the answer :) |
| 16:14.24 | Jucato | actually the answer is implied in Jos' blog (the options he talks about) |
| 16:14.39 | untitled | Half-Left: yes |
| 16:14.41 | Half-Left | Rasi: Click the picture icon top the top and change the theme |
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| 16:15.13 | untitled | i mean the panel is high |
| 16:15.19 | untitled | how can i fix that? |
| 16:15.21 | pinotree | sjraarke: tell him to add his scripts in ~/.kde/shutdown (or .kde4, or whatever the local kde directory is) |
| 16:15.27 | Jucato | sjraarke: put the script in ~/.kde... |
| 16:15.32 | Jucato | bah pino's fast |
| 16:15.35 | Jucato | goes to bed |
| 16:15.41 | Rasi | ah i got it |
| 16:15.50 | Half-Left | untitled: Panel Settings and drag the top part of that pane that come up |
| 16:16.14 | Half-Left | panel* |
| 16:16.29 | Half-Left | It's alot more easier(will be) in 4.2 |
| 16:16.45 | untitled | it just goes down)) |
| 16:16.50 | untitled | not becoming smaller |
| 16:17.37 | Half-Left | Well it can be as small or big as you want |
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| 16:29.10 | sjraarke | pinotree: Have a lil more details. He wants to create a shutdown script that does a clean shutdown of KDE (and apps) and then shuts down the computer |
| 16:29.42 | pinotree | see , the problem is totally different now... |
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| 16:30.22 | pinotree | tell him a) to come and ask here, this kind of ping-pong is becoming boring b) to contact ksmserver via dcop (kde3) or dbus (kde4) and ask it to logout |
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| 16:32.26 | pinotree | sjraarke: â |
| 16:32.47 | Koordin | hi, i changed the windows style to Skulpture ; now how can i change the main bar (the panel at the bottom) style ? please |
| 16:33.09 | darkwizzard | My Desktop disapeared after enlarging the folderview plasmoid to the whole desktop in 4.2 |
| 16:33.14 | darkwizzard | how to retrieve it ? |
| 16:33.20 | pinotree | Koordin: unless there's a plasma theme for skulpture, no way |
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| 16:34.31 | Koordin | pinotree: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Skulpture?content=59031 look at the screenshots, we can see a toolbar |
| 16:34.35 | Koordin | changed |
| 16:35.11 | pinotree | that's not skulpture at all |
| 16:36.39 | Half-Left | Koordin: make one then |
| 16:36.41 | sjraarke | pinotree: ? |
| 16:36.49 | pinotree | it'd look like http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plain?content=83174 , although i'm not sure it is the same |
| 16:36.58 | pinotree | sjraarke: <pinotree> tell him a) to come and ask here, this kind of ping-pong is becoming boring b) to contact ksmserver via dcop (kde3) or dbus (kde4) and ask it to logout |
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| 16:37.27 | sjraarke | Yes, saw that and passed it on to him |
| 16:37.34 | Koordin | pinotree: that skulpture, i've downloaded this one (on the link i gave you) and this is the theme i want |
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| 16:38.20 | pinotree | Koordin: the one you linked is a theme for a) applications and b) window decorations |
| 16:38.39 | Half-Left | Koordin: Plasma doesn't theme with KDE themes |
| 16:39.01 | pinotree | Koordin: it does *not* include a plasma theme |
| 16:39.05 | Koordin | ok |
| 16:39.09 | Koordin | so i have to download a plasma theme ? |
| 16:39.22 | pinotree | yes |
| 16:39.55 | Koordin | and if i don't want plasma at all ? |
| 16:40.02 | Koordin | (because my computer is totally lagging with is) |
| 16:40.05 | Koordin | with it* |
| 16:40.24 | Maxa | o_O |
| 16:40.25 | Half-Left | You dont have a desktop |
| 16:40.29 | pinotree | then you will have a void background with nothing on it, and no panels |
| 16:40.53 | Koordin | processes xorg+plasma are taking 10% of cpu, is that normal ? |
| 16:41.15 | annma | xorg takes cpu in any case |
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| 16:41.29 | annma | that's not a lot, compared to vista |
| 16:41.47 | supertones | xorg does perform an important duty |
| 16:41.51 | Maxa | i had high cpu usage with opengl compositing |
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| 16:42.08 | leleobhz | someone know how can i fix amsn focus problem on kde/ |
| 16:42.27 | Half-Left | Koordin: Turn vsync off if you have composting on |
| 16:42.34 | leleobhz | ive tried a lot of things, change appearance options, but notting fix alt-tab and amsn focus issue |
| 16:42.53 | Koordin | Half-Left: i've disabled all desktop-effects, including vsync, but that does not change a thing |
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| 16:44.19 | Half-Left | Koordin: restart plasma from Alt, F2 |
| 16:45.13 | Koordin | just by typing plasma ? |
| 16:45.33 | Half-Left | kquitapp plasma && plasma |
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| 16:45.55 | Koordin | when i said that i've disabled all desktop effects, i was meaning that i've done that for a few days now |
| 16:46.38 | Half-Left | It's not uncommon for plasma to hit xorg bugs put it that way :p |
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| 16:47.49 | Koordin | Half-Left: xorg and plasma are still at 10% |
| 16:48.08 | Half-Left | You'll have to restart Xorg then |
| 16:49.03 | Koordin | but i've restarted my computer several times |
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| 16:49.08 | Koordin | that does not change a thing. |
| 16:49.35 | Maxa | just to make sure... you have "enable desktop effects" unticked? |
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| 16:49.48 | Half-Left | The you may have hit a bug somewhere, maybe driver, who knows |
| 16:50.09 | Koordin | Maxa: yes |
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| 16:50.19 | Koordin | Half-Left: i've already tried several times to install different drivers |
| 16:50.38 | Maxa | ok... i was having a similar problem so i wanted to be sure |
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| 16:50.44 | Koordin | firefox also takes 40% of cpu |
| 16:50.48 | Half-Left | Koordin: What makes you think it's anything to do with KDE? |
| 16:51.04 | Koordin | and when i try to play a flash movie it is laggy |
| 16:51.17 | Koordin | because it was less laggy when i was on kde3 |
| 16:52.12 | Half-Left | Just because KDE3 was less lagging dont make it a KDE4 problem |
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| 16:52.27 | Koordin | ok so maybe i'm wrong |
| 16:52.31 | Koordin | but do you have any idea ? |
| 16:53.01 | Half-Left | it's hard to say, depends on what actuall is taking up the CPU |
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| 17:08.22 | Half-Left | pinotree: Whats the difference between -j2 and -j3? |
| 17:08.40 | pinotree | 2 compiling jobs and 3 compiling jobs? |
| 17:09.06 | Half-Left | " Use make -j2 on a dual-core system can make the progress faster." |
| 17:09.24 | Half-Left | I thought -j3 was dualcore |
| 17:09.36 | Bundestrojaner | yes |
| 17:09.38 | MinceR | i thought -j3 was hardcore |
| 17:09.39 | MinceR | ;) |
| 17:09.39 | Bundestrojaner | cores+1 |
| 17:09.53 | Half-Left | gah |
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| 17:10.04 | Sput | uses -j5 on his quadcore and then also does parallel emerges :) |
| 17:10.13 | Sput | ensures that no core will ever be idle :D |
| 17:10.23 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 17:11.38 | Half-Left | has been using -j3 instead of -j2 |
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| 17:19.31 | archangelpetro | lo |
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| 17:26.50 | judgen | Is it supposed to eb impossible to do the 50 states of the US in kgeography? my states gets stuck up in the corner =P |
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| 17:28.55 | judgen | hehe i figured out a way, i have to select another window every time i get a new state and just go with it... |
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| 17:57.14 | burgua | does konqueror include webkit? |
| 17:57.18 | pinotree | nope |
| 17:57.55 | burgua | how can I try to use webkit? |
| 17:58.21 | burgua | found |
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| 18:04.12 | judgen | burgua: just add the button to the menu bar and click it to use webkit for that particular site |
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| 18:07.08 | idl0r | hi guys, i just saw that noone filed a bug about qca2 problems so you should append -L/usr/lib/qca2 to LDFLAGS (>=kde-4.2) |
| 18:07.37 | freebsdlover | hi all, can i make my taskbar transparent so my desktop wallpaper shows through it? |
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| 18:11.58 | silver_hook | I'm wondering how KDE4 manages input devices. Does it still misunderstand 'xorg.conf' (or HAL's '*.fdi' files nowadays) or is it done more gracefully now? |
| 18:13.11 | silver_hook | If the latter's the case I'm *soooooooo* moving to KDE4 right away! I think I'm affected by Bug 68372 |
| 18:13.26 | Half-Left | freebsdlover: KDE version? |
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| 18:13.52 | freebsdlover | 3.5 |
| 18:15.33 | Half-Left | freebsdlover: In the kicker settings, but it's fake transparency |
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| 18:21.53 | burgua | can somebody give a link for "konqueror+flash" how-to? |
| 18:22.30 | freebsdlover | ermm what r u using? freebsd? |
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| 18:23.00 | freebsdlover | freebsd is the best. |
| 18:23.03 | burgua | archlinux |
| 18:23.22 | freebsdlover | just install nsplugnwrapper and flash 7 |
| 18:23.26 | burgua | you are talking about howto on kde.org? |
| 18:23.29 | freebsdlover | then try ur flash. |
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| 18:23.54 | freebsdlover | u asked |
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| 18:24.38 | freebsdlover | werent me. |
| 18:24.50 | freebsdlover | imnot happy with my kde theme. |
| 18:24.54 | freebsdlover | i like vista theme. |
| 18:25.03 | freebsdlover | but cant find one. |
| 18:25.05 | eido | hi folks, i'm on Kubuntu Hardy - running KDE 3.5.10. I'm trying to play audio streams - noatun is starting up, and shows that it' splaying, but there's no sound. what's the proper path to test things? i've fiddled with artsd in the past, but i don't know what the 'current state' is - been a while since i've been on KDE. |
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| 18:25.12 | silver_hook | freebsdlover: Make one ;) |
| 18:25.38 | freebsdlover | bah, i tried. |
| 18:25.42 | eido | kinfocenter says I have a working Type 10: ALSA emulation device |
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| 18:26.15 | eido | BLAH! IGNORE ME - kmix showed the PCM level was down to zilch |
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| 18:26.27 | eido | Thanks for the help! :) |
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| 18:38.36 | Neremor | hello! |
| 18:38.41 | Neremor | i've a short question |
| 18:38.52 | Neremor | i would like to make my own kdm theme |
| 18:39.06 | Neremor | but i don't know how |
| 18:39.31 | boom1992 | Neremor: check themes on kde-look.org |
| 18:39.33 | Neremor | the graphics are no problem because i'm very good in making computer graphics but the technical know how... |
| 18:39.40 | Neremor | ?? |
| 18:39.58 | Neremor | i thought i may only download themes on kde-look.og |
| 18:39.59 | Neremor | org |
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| 18:40.29 | silver_hook | Neremor: Just untar a KDM theme. tweak it to your liking and see what you can achieve. |
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| 18:41.06 | Neremor | hm is there a theme that works with kde4 for sure? all i tried from kde-look are still for kde 3 |
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| 18:41.41 | silver_hook | Neremor: Or you can browse your disk for a system KDM theme tarball... |
| 18:42.22 | Neremor | ok |
| 18:42.45 | Neremor | do you know where i can find the default one of kde4 with kubuntu 8.10? |
| 18:43.00 | silver_hook | Neremor: On KDE3 on my Install the directory is '/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/kdm/themes/' |
| 18:44.14 | silver_hook | But AFAIK KDE4 now uses the standard paths (instead of its own) and I doubt it will be very similar to this one... |
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| 18:45.34 | Illusioneer | j #mysql |
| 18:46.01 | siamba | hello |
| 18:46.10 | siamba | i have problems compiling kde4.1 |
| 18:46.18 | siamba | http://pastebin.com/m586f108f |
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| 18:50.42 | Spreadsheet | hello, i have 4.1 and there are many qt3 apps |
| 18:50.50 | Spreadsheet | when are they gonna become qt4 apps? |
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| 18:52.50 | pinotree | ask their authors |
| 18:52.57 | Spreadsheet | hmm |
| 18:53.15 | Spreadsheet | in 4.2 will many apps be ported to qt4 |
| 18:53.28 | pinotree | "qt4" does not imply relation to kde |
| 18:53.43 | Spreadsheet | ... |
| 18:53.48 | pinotree | what is your real problem? |
| 18:54.07 | Spreadsheet | Qt3 apps do not look good when everything else is mostly qt4 |
| 18:54.18 | pinotree | ... and? |
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| 18:54.40 | Spreadsheet | i was wondering if 4.2 will have changes... |
| 18:55.17 | pinotree | we don't port qt3 applications, their authors (or other developers) do |
| 18:55.51 | Spreadsheet | oh |
| 18:55.53 | Spreadsheet | ok :) |
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| 19:09.19 | siamba | needs kde4 ;( |
| 19:09.59 | drantin | :/ |
| 19:11.26 | siamba | moin drantin |
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| 19:26.28 | tuxick | once again konqueror taking ages to redraw any of its windows |
| 19:26.35 | tuxick | wish i found out why |
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| 19:32.31 | Hijacker | is anyone else experiencing frequent crashes of plasma's panel (what was formerly kicker), when there's a lot of "action" in it? like, if i hover over a few tasks and click on one, it will crash and (usually) relaunch itself again. that happens multiple times per hour and is rather annoying :/ |
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| 20:11.00 | elbeardmorez | hi. there was a bug in konqueror kde3 a couple of years ago which caused a crash when konqueror was restored by session management if an empty path was saved in the address bar. this was fixed, but it seems that for 'split-view' the poterntial to be loading at more than one blank path / address wasn't thought of. hence my konq. crashes everytime I restart kde. |
| 20:12.19 | elbeardmorez | ..so question ..is there a way to specify what gets loaded in each of the view panes? using dcop calls maybe?? |
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| 20:20.48 | ath_ | does kde 4.1.2 support compiz-fusion? |
| 20:21.09 | aseigo | define "support" |
| 20:21.17 | aseigo | it works fine with it, if that's the question =) |
| 20:21.27 | ath_ | hmm :[ |
| 20:21.35 | aseigo | we had a couple of crash reports of plasma in certain situations, those have been fixed for 4.2 though |
| 20:21.45 | ath_ | i'm having troubles, as compiz can't find kde-config |
| 20:22.10 | ath_ | it hasn't changed location since 3.5x has it? |
| 20:22.20 | pinotree | what is the real problem? |
| 20:23.00 | ath_ | configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found! |
| 20:23.01 | ath_ | Please check whether you installed KDE correctly. |
| 20:23.09 | pinotree | ask in #compiz-fusion |
| 20:23.14 | ath_ | cheers |
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| 20:34.17 | FiNeX | hi! |
| 20:34.29 | Neremor | hello! |
| 20:34.45 | Neremor | i created my kdm theme now, but there are still a few things that are not so nice and i want to change that |
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| 20:34.58 | Neremor | for the user selection, I'm using the userlist widget. |
| 20:35.14 | Neremor | that widget provides a list of users that you can select or deselect |
| 20:35.49 | Neremor | i want to change the colors of this list, eg make the background half transparent and change the "selected" color from blue to grey... |
| 20:35.53 | Neremor | is that possible? |
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| 20:47.47 | Neremor | ??? |
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| 20:55.05 | danakil | looks |
| 20:55.10 | danakil | :( |
| 20:55.12 | danakil | no |
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| 21:09.30 | snikker | hi, can i move the kde4 dock at the top of the screen? |
| 21:10.34 | sjraarke | pinotree: http://samwiseandthestereotypical.blogspot.com/2008/09/using-dbus-and-ksmserver-to-logout-and.html |
| 21:10.59 | sjraarke | pinotree: It took us a while but we got it figured out |
| 21:11.52 | Neremor | no ideas for my problem? |
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| 21:12.55 | serenity | hi there |
| 21:13.16 | serenity | aseigo's first video stream for kde: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4511247 happy seeding |
| 21:13.45 | sjraarke | serenity: seeding already :) |
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| 21:13.50 | serenity | fine |
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| 21:14.36 | serenity | spread the word |
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| 21:16.47 | viniciuspt | hello for all |
| 21:18.09 | viniciuspt | somebody would know which software or script is responsible for creating the shortcuts in desktop and /media, for SD, pendrive ? My kde is version 3.5.9 |
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| 21:19.43 | viniciuspt | some shortcuts for SD cards are not being servant, have there that to mount they manually |
| 21:20.09 | untitled | does anyone |
| 21:20.19 | untitled | use adesklets with kde 4? :) |
| 21:20.41 | untitled | it goes above all windows :) |
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| 21:23.21 | Maxa | i've tried adesklets, same problem |
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| 21:24.33 | untitled | any suggestions how to get weather forecast to the desktop? |
| 21:25.00 | Maxa | theres a plasmoid |
| 21:25.15 | untitled | I am using debian and plasma-applet handler don't see any weather plasmoids |
| 21:25.23 | untitled | and it wouldn't compile =\ |
| 21:26.12 | viniciuspt | somebody assist could me ? |
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| 22:22.17 | thezeroman | hi guys |
| 22:22.35 | thezeroman | stupid question. I closed the desktop window and cant find how to open it. |
| 22:22.37 | workman161 | ahoy |
| 22:22.38 | fish__ | hello everyone :) so how can I completely wipe out my kde nightlys with all the settings? I tried sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-nightly |
| 22:22.41 | thezeroman | even rebooted and it didnt come back |
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| 22:22.59 | fish__ | but after reinstallting it still doesn't work :\ I want to wipe all configs as well |
| 22:23.03 | sdfsdfsdsfad | what do you mean by desktop window? the panel? |
| 22:23.12 | sdfsdfsdsfad | which kde btw |
| 22:23.19 | thezeroman | yep the panel that shows the contents of the desktop |
| 22:23.25 | thezeroman | kde 4.1 |
| 22:23.27 | sdfsdfsdsfad | fish__: ask in your distro channel |
| 22:23.34 | serenity | aseigo's first video stream for kde: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4511247 happy seeding |
| 22:23.45 | fish__ | sdfsdfsdsfad: I just did that, no answer so far. my distro is Kubuntu |
| 22:24.01 | sdfsdfsdsfad | thezeroman: right-click on the desktop, add panel |
| 22:24.21 | sdfsdfsdsfad | ah no, i mean add plasmoid/widget |
| 22:24.27 | sdfsdfsdsfad | then select folderview |
| 22:24.52 | thezeroman | folderview ok thanks |
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| 22:26.45 | thezeroman | thanks. I have to admit kde 4 is a little slow on my laptop but its very cool. but its an old laptop anyway. I will install it on a better machine soon. |
| 22:27.02 | tuxick | get a "vista ready" one |
| 22:27.05 | tuxick | that should do!! |
| 22:27.51 | sdfsdfsdsfad | thezeroman: perhaps you can tweak your xorg settings a bit, but depends on your gpu |
| 22:28.02 | tuxick | got a box with 2G ram now, kde2.5.9 and never running into swap :) |
| 22:28.11 | tuxick | 3.5.9 too |
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| 22:28.52 | workman161 | aseigo: I've got a question about PolicyKit-KDE |
| 22:28.59 | aseigo | workman161: shoot |
| 22:29.13 | workman161 | is there a way to get it into 4.2 |
| 22:29.25 | workman161 | its mostly ready and by that we mean stabilization is all thats left |
| 22:29.37 | workman161 | its still in playground though |
| 22:29.54 | aseigo | workman161: is anything using it currently? |
| 22:30.06 | aseigo | workman161: or rather, what would be the rational for getting it into 4.2 vs 4.3? |
| 22:30.17 | aseigo | (not that i don't think it should go in... these are just the questions that will be asked =) |
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| 22:30.52 | aseigo | workman161: if there is a good justification, then send an email to k-c-d requesting a exemption from the usual kdereview period |
| 22:31.05 | workman161 | nothings using it yet, but its the KDE version of gnome-policykit |
| 22:31.10 | workman161 | which is used to manage policykit |
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| 22:31.35 | workman161 | er, actually kpackagekit uses polkit-kde |
| 22:31.54 | workman161 | I'll shoot them a mail |
| 22:33.39 | workman161 | oh, and nice job on the show, aseigo :) |
| 22:33.52 | SSJ_GZ | ++ - cool stuff :) |
| 22:34.21 | sdfsdfsdsfad | is it still available as flash video? |
| 22:34.59 | serenity | sdfsdfsdsfad: yipp, there: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aseigo-on-kde |
| 22:35.10 | sdfsdfsdsfad | ah great thanks :) |
| 22:35.19 | serenity | or as torrent |
| 22:35.30 | sdfsdfsdsfad | yes |
| 22:35.40 | fish__ | 1 hour is a bit long |
| 22:35.50 | aseigo | sdfsdfsdsfad: and a torrent. |
| 22:35.56 | fish__ | is there a graph that shows how many turned the feed off and when? like, peak times and stuff? |
| 22:35.59 | aseigo | fish__: the last 20 mins or so is developer stuf. |
| 22:36.03 | sdfsdfsdsfad | yes :) |
| 22:36.12 | fish__ | that would be interesting |
| 22:36.17 | fish__ | aseigo: I see, yes :) |
| 22:37.05 | aseigo | fish__: when that segment started, probably 30-40 people dropped almost immediately =) |
| 22:37.15 | sdfsdfsdsfad | lol! |
| 22:37.19 | aseigo | fish__: we peaked probably at around 30 minutes |
| 22:37.31 | aseigo | fish__: when the town hall segment started 20-30 people dropped |
| 22:37.55 | aseigo | so we went from a little over 200 to ~130 or so by the end |
| 22:38.29 | fish__ | very interesting. almost worth a blog post. thanks! |
| 22:38.40 | sdfsdfsdsfad | i think the torrent will be viewed by at least 4* of that aseigo |
| 22:39.01 | aseigo | sdfsdfsdsfad: 23 so far |
| 22:39.18 | serenity | aseigo: 18 times |
| 22:39.22 | serenity | here ;) |
| 22:39.30 | aseigo | serenity: my tracker just updates |
| 22:39.32 | aseigo | er, updated |
| 22:39.35 | serenity | kk |
| 22:39.46 | serenity | ahh |
| 22:39.53 | sdfsdfsdsfad | most of the europeans are sure just at some party :p its saturday night |
| 22:40.36 | serenity | posted on ubuntuusers... |
| 22:40.41 | aseigo | 752 views counted by ustream so far. |
| 22:40.49 | DanaKil | : party on my chair !! |
| 22:40.54 | aseigo | sdfsdfsdsfad: indeed.. hehe. |
| 22:41.11 | aseigo | sdfsdfsdsfad: 17:00UTC on Saturday polled the highest though, so .. *shrug8 |
| 22:41.25 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hm |
| 22:41.42 | serenity | passes a pitcher full of guinness to chan |
| 22:41.54 | sdfsdfsdsfad | cheers |
| 22:42.47 | fish__ | hey, do you guys remember...at the very beginning of kde4 there used to be a forum. it was newly opened to collect ideas |
| 22:43.05 | aseigo | yerp |
| 22:43.09 | fish__ | for kde4. one day it suddenly disappeared. it was official, no? |
| 22:43.15 | aseigo | no |
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| 22:43.21 | aseigo | well, "official" |
| 22:43.24 | aseigo | not .. official |
| 22:43.25 | aseigo | ha |
| 22:43.25 | fish__ | hmm...ok |
| 22:43.31 | fish__ | anyway if you go here: http://www.dachboden-wg.de/smf/index.php?topic=7657.msg162015#msg162015 |
| 22:43.34 | fish__ | and scroll down a bit |
| 22:43.36 | sdfsdfsdsfad | but there is http://forum.kde.org/ now :D |
| 22:43.39 | aseigo | it would be interesting to have one of those "rank ideas as a mob" sites though |
| 22:43.51 | fish__ | there are still some screenshots of that time. it's fun to compare the ideas back then with what we have now |
| 22:45.48 | fish__ | it seems most of those screenshots are reality now. a bit different, but most of it is there |
| 22:46.18 | fish__ | the post is from July 2005... |
| 22:46.20 | aseigo | yep.. 4.3 will be about going the next mile.. |
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| 22:46.25 | aseigo | sounds about right =) |
| 22:46.46 | DrSlony | Help, currently pressing printscreen copies an image to my clipboard, where do i set it to launch ksnapshot instead? (kde4) |
| 22:47.35 | fish__ | http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1781/systraymockupvertical42ew.png <--- it's like plasmoids, hehe |
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| 22:49.30 | aseigo | DrSlony: not sure where it is set, but you shoudl be able to reassign the key by opening up kmenuedit, going to the ksnapshot entry and setting a shortcut on the Advanced tab there |
| 22:50.09 | DrSlony | aseigo ok ill try that, i couldnt find the right option in system settings > keyboard shortcuts |
| 22:50.17 | DrSlony | also is there a way to sort things alphabetically in the kmenu? |
| 22:50.35 | aseigo | DrSlony: they used to be on that page in kde3 *cough*i put them there*cough* but that got lost in kde4. will have to redo that work someday =) |
| 22:50.37 | DrSlony | not only this, but the kmenu sometimes just ignore the way i sort things manualls. |
| 22:50.54 | aseigo | not really |
| 22:51.06 | DrSlony | aseigo they = shortcut keys for ksnapshot, or what? |
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| 22:51.30 | aseigo | DrSlony: they == the page to set application shortcuts in the keyboard shortcuts panel |
| 22:51.40 | DrSlony | ah :] |
| 22:52.11 | DrSlony | an option to sort the kmenu alphabetically would be wonderful. |
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| 22:53.53 | DrSlony | ok, printscreen works well now, thanks aseigo :) |
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| 22:54.57 | aseigo | DrSlony: no problems =) btw, have you see the new region selection mode in ksnapshot in kde4? |
| 22:54.58 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hm aseigo didnt anyone revamp the pim settings pages lately? because you said the ui in kontact moves slowly |
| 22:55.00 | collinm | hi i have a problem with kmail.... i changed the smtp server and it's continue to use the old one... |
| 22:55.02 | aseigo | DrSlony: where you can resize the area? |
| 22:55.18 | aseigo | sdfsdfsdsfad: not really .. at least not significantly |
| 22:55.24 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hm ok |
| 22:55.30 | fish__ | uses the region selection mode all the time |
| 22:55.37 | collinm | i get the transport xxx is not correct.... |
| 22:55.47 | FiNeX | re |
| 22:55.47 | sdfsdfsdsfad | i dont remember the old ones but in trunk they are cool :) |
| 22:55.52 | aseigo | fish__: same here. it was driving me NUTS in kde3 how you had to get it JUST RIGHT |
| 22:56.01 | collinm | but in my kmail configuration.... i don't see anywhere xxx |
| 22:56.12 | collinm | i use kde 4.1.3 |
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| 22:56.19 | fish__ | aseigo: same here. simple, but great feature! |
| 22:56.32 | DrSlony | oh perhaps you would know, in kde3 i had .mov files set to open in freepv-glut, i forgot what variable holder I used, probably %F. In KDE4 when I use "freepv-glut %F" and open a .mov file, it shows the "Save / Open with freepv-glut" window, I click on open, it downloads the file, but freepv-glut doesn't open. Any idea on what %x thing to use, or why in kde4 it wont open files like that? (running freepv-glut /path/to/file.mov from terminal works in kde4) |
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| 22:56.54 | aseigo | DrSlony: %f? |
| 22:57.00 | DrSlony | aseigo I tried %f too, didnt work |
| 22:57.11 | aseigo | DrSlony: hrm.. that is for local files only, of course.. |
| 22:57.17 | aseigo | DrSlony: are you trying to do urls? |
| 22:57.30 | DrSlony | aseigo I saw the "region" selection in ksnapshot just now, it looks nice :) |
| 22:57.35 | aseigo | DrSlony: if so it's %u iirc |
| 22:57.55 | aseigo | oh, and ksnapshot even works on multi-screen system *gasp* |
| 22:57.56 | DrSlony | aseigo I want to click on a link to a .mov and open that in freepv-glut (a 360 panorama viewer) |
| 22:58.01 | aseigo | it's like we'r ein the 21st centuray already |
| 22:58.06 | DrSlony | i tried %f %F %u %U and none of those worked |
| 22:58.27 | aseigo | DrSlony: hm.. those placeholders haven't changed (they are a fd.o spec) |
| 22:58.30 | fish__ | An "auto-upload to imageshack" option (or other one-click-hosters) would be fantastic for ksnapshot btw |
| 22:58.46 | aseigo | DrSlony: oddness. hopefully not a regression in the mimetypes |
| 22:59.09 | aseigo | fish__: when the servicemenu class leaves kdebase i'll add support for random .desktop files |
| 22:59.11 | DanaKil | fish__ : it would be great to could add scripts to ksnapshot, like "upload to my ftp and copy url to my clipboard" :) |
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| 22:59.21 | bashbin | hi |
| 22:59.22 | DanaKil | oh :) |
| 22:59.31 | DrSlony | aseigo is there any way to check what happens after I click "open with freepv"? some sort of verbose logging? |
| 23:00.08 | aseigo | DrSlony: there should be debug output (assuming you aren't using a release build) in whatever log file gets used on your system, e.g. ~/.xsession-errors (on mine) |
| 23:00.10 | DrSlony | i dont understand why it doesnt work, since is downloads the file but then wont launch freepv-glut... if i could somehow see the error |
| 23:00.22 | bashbin | there is a program called "kbluetooth". Question: How can I tell this programm "kbluetooth" what PIN it should use? My CELL Phone asks me for the PIN, but there is no option to tell kbluetooth the same PIN Code |
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| 23:00.37 | DrSlony | aseigo im using 4.1.3... so thats a release build right? |
| 23:00.44 | fish__ | aseigo: sounds brilliant |
| 23:00.57 | Warod | hoi, where does kde4 save the saved sessions data? |
| 23:01.35 | Warod | managed to run some pulseaudio util which outright crashes the KDE... |
| 23:01.48 | aseigo | Warod: share/config/session/ |
| 23:01.52 | Warod | thanks |
| 23:02.01 | aseigo | Warod: referenced by share/config/ksmserverrc |
| 23:02.16 | aseigo | DrSlony: it's a release, but the build may have debug symbols.. |
| 23:02.23 | serenity | is still waiting for a java/jambi binding for plasmoids ;) |
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| 23:02.36 | aseigo | DrSlony: if you're using pre-packaged rpms/debs, chances are your out of luck |
| 23:02.42 | DrSlony | aseigo yes it seems to log to it, im tailing it now, and ill try opening that .mov using %F %f %U %u |
| 23:02.53 | DrSlony | nope, gentoo, self-compiled ebuild |
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| 23:03.17 | aseigo | great =) |
| 23:03.42 | DrSlony | i get these all the time |
| 23:03.43 | DrSlony | kmail(6282) KMKernel::getFolder: Folder not found: "/Local" |
| 23:03.45 | DrSlony | QFile::open: No file name specified |
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| 23:08.05 | Warod | aseigo: Is it safe to remove the whole ksmserverrc file? |
| 23:08.27 | aseigo | Warod: yep |
| 23:08.30 | aseigo | Warod: and everything in session/ |
| 23:09.26 | fish__ | why does the gnome channel only has 77 members (right now) wheras kde has got almost 400? |
| 23:10.01 | pinotree | because the gnome channels are on irc.gnome.org network |
| 23:10.22 | fish__ | ohh....thx |
| 23:10.29 | aseigo | hehe.. that always made me chuckle |
| 23:10.39 | aseigo | hello, separate silo! |
| 23:11.00 | aseigo | shoudl blog about the stupidity of that someday |
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| 23:12.23 | fish__ | okay, so there are 130 members |
| 23:12.42 | fish__ | still only a third of this channel |
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| 23:12.49 | fish__ | why is that? *puzzled* |
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| 23:15.36 | fish__ | okay, I see: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels |
| 23:15.42 | fish__ | tons of channels...wow |
| 23:18.04 | aseigo | fewer than the kde channels on freenode |
| 23:19.27 | fish__ | hmm... |
| 23:19.34 | pinotree | yep |
| 23:19.54 | serenity | so, uploaded 1gig of data to my torrent |
| 23:20.01 | pinotree | we have http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels, just as non-totally-devel oriented channels |
| 23:20.05 | aseigo | i'm in 8 kde channels alone right now =) |
| 23:20.27 | pinotree | pino = aseigo * 2 |
| 23:21.02 | aseigo | pinotree: yes, you are twice as good as me =) |
| 23:21.10 | pinotree | nah, being good is inverted to the ratio of the irc channels you are on =D |
| 23:21.16 | aseigo | haha |
| 23:21.34 | pinotree | take master dfaure, for example |
| 23:21.42 | sdfsdfsdsfad | then my mother is best |
| 23:22.04 | aseigo | sdfsdfsdsfad: infinitely so, i'd imagine |
| 23:22.29 | pinotree | «mom is always mom» says a proverb (at least here) |
| 23:22.39 | sdfsdfsdsfad | hehe |
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| 23:22.45 | blight__ | how do i change the color of the kde 4.1 panels? |
| 23:22.45 | serenity | going to bed now |
| 23:22.46 | aseigo | pinotree: yes, she is. |
| 23:22.56 | pinotree | have a good night, serenity |
| 23:22.58 | aseigo | pinotree: yo' momma, as we say here |
| 23:23.00 | blight__ | the black is depressing me :( |
| 23:23.02 | aseigo | serenity: g'nite dude |
| 23:23.16 | aseigo | blight__: change themes.. right click on the desktop, theme |
| 23:23.20 | serenity | thanks you both |
| 23:23.22 | aseigo | er, desktop settings -> theme |
| 23:23.27 | pinotree | blight__: right click on the desktop â desktop settings â theme â install new |
| 23:23.29 | fish__ | still doesn't know how to completely wipe out his kde-nightly seetings and start fresh |
| 23:23.41 | pinotree | there's a lot of shiny themes you can choose from! |
| 23:23.49 | blight__ | thanks guys thats better! |
| 23:24.05 | blight__ | really shouldnt have such depressing colors as default for sensitive guys like me |
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| 23:24.35 | pinotree | sadly, none of them include a auth signed photo of our brave aseigo, so you have to hold your breath about that |
| 23:26.16 | sdfsdfsdsfad | oh, activity per virtual desktop gets +1000 :p |
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| 23:26.45 | nick01 | hi, in kde 3.5.10 the lower part of the taskbar has a darker band: http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagine1oc6.jpg how do I get rid of it ? |
| 23:27.14 | pastis8 | hi.. i would like to make some changes in akregator, but i dont know wher and how to start, purpose is only to change popup window behaviour |
| 23:28.53 | DanaKil | about akregator, do you mean to modify the code yourself ? |
| 23:30.19 | nick01 | heh I may have fix it nvm |
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| 23:32.27 | pastis8 | DanaKil, yep, i dare :) |
| 23:32.28 | fish__ | Akregator is a good app, but I'm always wondering why people don't use online feed readers |
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| 23:33.10 | Bluespear | Hello, is it normal that my window decoration for Ozon and Oxygen have almost same loook (poor gray title bar) ? Have I forgotten a configuration parameter in kde 4.1.3 ? (fresh install from 3.5.9) |
| 23:33.13 | pastis8 | i look for one to popup each 1 minute if necesseary and for me to ack each popup window |
| 23:33.46 | pinotree | Bluespear: ozone is fork of oxygen (kept in sync) that just adds the coloration for the titlebar |
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| 23:34.02 | pinotree | all the other features of the oxygen windeco are there |
| 23:34.30 | Bluespear | pinotree, ok :) do you have a screenshot of what it should look like ? seems poor to me atm :) |
| 23:35.23 | Bluespear | I'll google a bit :) |
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| 23:39.34 | Warod | ffs |
| 23:39.54 | Warod | so.. I'll end up deleting .kde4.... again. |
| 23:40.59 | Warod | wonder when kde is "production" ready so that it won't screw up itself spontanously :S |
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| 23:42.05 | Sput | hasn't had to delete his .kde in ages |
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| 23:42.56 | pinotree | is using kde 3.5.almost10 with a .kde coming from kde 2.1 |
| 23:43.07 | pinotree | no, 2.0 even |
| 23:44.01 | Warod | pinotree: Well.. I didn't need to do it on KDE 3.5 even once... |
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| 23:45.21 | fish__ | is looking forward to kde5 |
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| 23:48.57 | BeteNoire | hi |
| 23:49.17 | sdfsdfsdsfad | there is no turorial yet for html/css plasmoids on techbase right? |
| 23:49.27 | BeteNoire | anyone with kde 4.1 has a problem of hanging environment when trying to unlock it? |
| 23:52.16 | *** join/#kde Wofl_ (n=nils@wsip-70-164-66-162.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:54.21 | *** part/#kde untitled (n=untitled@87.120.115.10) |
| 23:55.05 | Wofl_ | hey, how can i set a background while kdm comes up (instead of the blue), and then once i entered my password and im waiting for my desktop (it goes back to blue) |
| 23:56.01 | nick01 | where in kde 3.5's kmail u configure the interval to check for new messages ? I cant find it |
| 23:56.06 | *** part/#kde sorush203 (n=sorush4@164.11.44.13) |
| 23:56.49 | BeteNoire | nick01: account settings i think |
| 23:57.03 | *** join/#kde kriko (n=kristjan@212.235.180.41) |
| 23:57.03 | collinm | @betenoire, maybe a video card problem... |
| 23:57.23 | nick01 | BeteNoire: yup, that was it tks |
| 23:57.23 | BeteNoire | collinm: with three different cards? |
| 23:58.24 | collinm | what linux distribution do you use? |
| 23:58.28 | BeteNoire | gentoo |
| 23:59.44 | Warod | interesting... removing .kde dir doesn't help. |
