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| 00:02.06 | surfzoid2 | Hi folks |
| 00:02.25 | surfzoid2 | Where is the status bar in konqueror/kde 4 ? |
| 00:02.41 | surfzoid2 | to show number of files & size |
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| 00:15.42 | hollywoodb | are there any docs on building KDE 4.1.2 to not interfere with the already-installed 3.5.x ? |
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| 00:22.47 | Smak | Anyone know what the calc widget is called? |
| 00:22.52 | Smak | opp |
| 00:23.02 | Smak | oops. calender widget |
| 00:23.19 | Smak | double clicking one the time no longer brings up the calendaer |
| 00:23.55 | StyXman | Smak: kde4? there's a calendar plasmoid |
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| 00:24.51 | Smak | 4.1.2 yea |
| 00:26.19 | magyar | hi, is there a gui for virtualbox in kde? |
| 00:26.21 | StyXman | you can use 'add widget' and add the plasmoid to your desktop |
| 00:26.40 | StyXman | magyar: I think VBox already has its own gui... |
| 00:27.48 | StyXman | magyar: running virtualbox here in my debian sid brings a vmware-like interface |
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| 00:30.28 | hollywoodb | virtualbox does indeed have a GUI. I think the package is typically named virtualbox-ose or something similar |
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| 00:34.57 | StyXman | hi all. does anyone knows what is the intended audience of kde camp in jamaica? |
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| 01:00.34 | afkael | hello!! |
| 01:01.08 | afkael | how install a kde3 theme (kth) in kde 4.1? |
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| 01:02.28 | afkael | i want install this theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/The+World?content=72591 |
| 01:02.33 | magyar | StyXman: the command "virtualbox" ? |
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| 01:05.19 | zirikili | afkael: very nice! I would like it too :) |
| 01:07.25 | afkael | i cant`install en kde 4.1 |
| 01:08.16 | afkael | How can I do it? |
| 01:08.48 | zirikili | nice quetion. where is that wallpaper? |
| 01:10.14 | afkael | is a **.kth file |
| 01:10.22 | grippa | Is there a way to start ktorrent torrents silently? |
| 01:11.41 | batcoder-7 | is there ktorrent for kde4 ? |
| 01:12.08 | stuffcorpse | batcoder-7: yes |
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| 01:12.36 | wepy | hello |
| 01:12.46 | wepy | anyone know how to get ctrk-k working for firefox? (should go to search box) |
| 01:13.36 | zirikili | wepy: to find a text string? |
| 01:13.52 | wepy | no there's a google search toolbar.. |
| 01:14.03 | wepy | ctrl-k is a shortcut to put the cursor there |
| 01:14.11 | wepy | but in kde it doesn't work:\ |
| 01:14.28 | zirikili | oh... i dont know |
| 01:15.02 | Alumin | wepy: only in KDE it doesn't work? |
| 01:15.42 | zirikili | is working in here |
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| 01:16.13 | Alumin | check your KDE global shortcuts |
| 01:18.11 | wepy | where are those? |
| 01:19.08 | batcoder-7 | anyone else notice in kde 4 that highlighting a app in the taskbar results it in mildy freezing the cpu |
| 01:19.13 | batcoder-7 | or the app that is running a bit |
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| 01:20.18 | StyXman | afkael: kde3 themes are incompatible to kde4 |
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| 01:21.53 | afkael | StyXman: ok, thank |
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| 01:27.21 | Bulwinkle | does anyone have any tips for better KDE4 performance on Nvidia? |
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| 01:29.59 | stuffcorpse | Bulwinkle: http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance |
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| 02:39.10 | zx2c4 | I don't understand... the kde commit digest is supposedly "weekly", but the last edition came out sept 28th... whats hte deal? |
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| 02:46.40 | FuriousGeorge1 | hey all |
| 02:47.05 | FuriousGeorge1 | i just installed kde4.1 and everything works great except kdm |
| 02:47.22 | FuriousGeorge1 | ive identified two lines in my logs that seem to be my only hints: |
| 02:47.26 | FuriousGeorge1 | Oct 28 22:30:35 bmy kdm: :0[15903]: Received unknown or unexpected command -2 from greeter |
| 02:47.26 | FuriousGeorge1 | Oct 28 22:30:35 bmy kdm: :0[15903]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 |
| 02:47.47 | FuriousGeorge1 | has anyone seen that before? |
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| 02:59.38 | KDesk | hi |
| 02:59.46 | KDesk | WHat can I use to rip cds? |
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| 03:01.35 | KDesk | kaudiocreator seems that hasn't a kde 4 version. |
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| 03:03.40 | FuriousGeorge1 | tried reinstalling kdm, same problem |
| 03:11.29 | sorteal | Zzzz -.- |
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| 03:20.24 | un4get | hi guy ! any fedora core 9 user here ? |
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| 03:43.28 | Bulwinkle | stuffcorpse: Thanks for the link... I was missing one line in my xorg.conf |
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| 03:55.01 | stuffcorpse | Bulwinkle: no problem, how well does it run now? |
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| 05:48.17 | crazy_pete | any reason why kopete would fail to let me connect to yahoo? |
| 05:48.22 | crazy_pete | i have no fire wall on atm |
| 05:48.33 | crazy_pete | i can connect to yahoo msn with pidgin (i hate gnome) |
| 05:48.44 | crazy_pete | but kopete shows my buddy list but doesnt seem to connect |
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| 05:50.09 | crazy_pete | nvm i think i got it |
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| 06:11.17 | meson10 | I am unable to compile PyKDE4... it shows some error in sipkdecorepart.... Should i pastebin for help? |
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| 07:37.11 | xenoterracide | anyone know what the 'capture' plugin in kwin does? |
| 07:37.22 | Zarin | It captures |
| 07:37.29 | xenoterracide | captures what? |
| 07:37.39 | Zarin | What's the full title of the plugin? |
| 07:38.10 | Zarin | If it's the video record plugin then it makes videos of your screen |
| 07:38.24 | xenoterracide | couldn't say... all I know is there's a use flag called 'captury' for it in gentoo. and the description is enables the 'capture' plugin |
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| 07:38.32 | Zarin | Ah |
| 07:38.37 | Zarin | That would be video record |
| 07:38.40 | xenoterracide | ok |
| 07:39.07 | xenoterracide | I really wish use flag descriptions were more descriptive |
| 07:40.05 | xenoterracide | thanks for the help |
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| 07:44.21 | hachque_ | when i try to sort my mail in kmail by date |
| 07:44.26 | hachque_ | it doesn't sort properly |
| 07:45.20 | hachque_ | and some are marked as 2106-02-07 |
| 07:45.37 | hachque_ | isn't that the unix timestamp limit or something? |
| 07:45.46 | hachque_ | *32-bit |
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| 07:48.08 | hachque_ | anyone? |
| 07:50.36 | crazy_pete | probably hachque_ |
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| 07:50.45 | hachque_ | except |
| 07:50.49 | hachque_ | i have a 64-bit compuiter |
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| 07:50.54 | hachque_ | so how does that work o_O |
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| 07:52.37 | hachque_ | i tried rebuilding the index |
| 07:52.40 | hachque_ | but that didn't help |
| 07:53.08 | hachque_ | some emails are marked as today, but they are in the past |
| 07:53.41 | hachque_ | anyway to clear all my emails and then redownload from the server? |
| 07:55.04 | hachque_ | when i click on the emails with 2106-02-07 it then updates it with the real date |
| 07:55.18 | hachque_ | but i have a feeling it's still using 2106-02-07 to sort it |
| 07:56.34 | xenoterracide | kmail is buggy |
| 07:57.00 | xenoterracide | rumor has it they will have all the current bugs fixed by kde 5 |
| 07:57.20 | hachque_ | ok, that's good to know... -_- |
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| 07:58.37 | xenoterracide | are you using the kde 4 version or kde 3? |
| 08:01.24 | crazy_pete | i am using 4 |
| 08:02.24 | xenoterracide | crazy_pete, same issue? |
| 08:02.50 | crazy_pete | what xeno? |
| 08:02.57 | xenoterracide | anyways I wouldn't bother filing any pims bugs for kde3... chances of them getting fixed are like that of the lotto |
| 08:03.17 | xenoterracide | is confused |
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| 08:03.55 | xenoterracide | crazy_pete, you seem to have answered a question I was directing elsewhere... so I'm not sure what yours is |
| 08:04.36 | crazy_pete | i dont have a question i simply do not understand what it is you are trying to communicate to me, xenoterracide and i apologise for that |
| 08:04.57 | xenoterracide | I was talking to hachque_ |
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| 09:03.38 | tackat | Hi! Is there any Intel-Mac user here who could test http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble_0_6/Marble.0.6.1-intel.dmg and tell me whether it works? |
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| 09:09.38 | tackat | Hi |
| 09:09.59 | tackat | Does anybody feel like giving that Marble Live CD a try: http://beta.suse.com/private/cschum/Marble_in_a_box_4.1.i686-0.0.2.iso ? |
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| 09:12.32 | Alcapond | Hi - after upgrading to 8.10, Kontact lost all of its content, bacause of shift from .kde4 to .kde - now this dont bother me much - except: I need my tasks back - which folder do I have to copy to get them back? |
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| 09:23.48 | cb400f | Alcapond: kontact is a wrapper for many apps.. "tasks" is your todo list? part of korganizer? |
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| 09:29.00 | Alcapond | cb400f: sorry - missed your answer: I need my "todo-list" and as I think about it my "notes" |
| 09:29.21 | Alcapond | both to be found as tabs in kontact |
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| 09:29.59 | cb400f | .kde4/share/apps/ .. find korganizer, kjots, knotes, kmail .. etc. |
| 09:30.04 | Colonel_Newb | coud anyone help restore sound after reinstall of kde, only player that works is dragonplayer (mplayer, vlc, kmplayer and borwsers iceweasel and konqueror gives no sound when playing video) |
| 09:30.10 | Alcapond | Well as I take a look at the new kontact - there are no "notes" anymore :( |
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| 09:30.55 | gentix | is there a option to create a image gallery in dolphin as in konqueror in kde3 ? |
| 09:31.15 | thpar | Hi. I'm experimenting with KDE4.1 now. Besides from crashing, occasional slowness and some weird behaviour every now and then, I'm already starting to like it. I was wondering: when resizing a panel, what's the difference between the blue and green arrows? |
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| 09:31.43 | cb400f | gentix: the option is still there in konq4 |
| 09:31.54 | Colonel_Newb | thpar> min and max size, |
| 09:32.09 | gentix | cb400f in dolphin or in konqueror?? |
| 09:32.18 | cb400f | konq |
| 09:32.24 | Colonel_Newb | thpar> size is variable in between |
| 09:32.25 | gentix | k |
| 09:32.27 | gentix | thanx |
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| 09:32.46 | cb400f | everything web-related is a no-no in dolphin I guess :-) |
| 09:33.05 | thpar | Colonel_Newb: I see... when is the min. size used? It seems to expand to max size now... |
| 09:33.07 | gentix | it's been a while since i used kde or linux... |
| 09:33.20 | gentix | I have been part of the dutch kde team |
| 09:33.35 | Colonel_Newb | thpar, dunno i use it maxed out to screenborders permanently |
| 09:33.36 | gentix | but then I was tempted bij mac.... :) *grin* |
| 09:33.53 | gentix | sorry about that one folks! |
| 09:34.17 | thpar | Colonel_Newb: same here, but as I have to adjust to a new desktop, I'm giving all options a chance :-) |
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| 09:35.02 | thpar | Colonel_Newb: would have sticked to KDE3.5, but Fedora is quite enforcing on that matter.. |
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| 09:35.53 | Colonel_Newb | thpar sure, but i think its because the taskmanager *and other objects in the panel reserve more space than defined as max, otherwise i think objects like system tray will expand it when adding icons |
| 09:36.55 | thpar | Colonel_Newb: indeed, you're right... ok... back to actual work here... |
| 09:37.02 | Colonel_Newb | thpar provided that alla available space is not |
| 09:37.14 | Colonel_Newb | used by objects in the panel |
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| 09:38.12 | ViennaL | I'm having a real bad problem on a linux box of one of my clients... i installed ubuntu 8.10 which comes with kde 4.1 i guess. After logging in the screen flickers every 3 seonds on/off. but kdm login works great and everything else to ... but u can hardly work because screen goes on and off (LCD) |
| 09:38.54 | ViennaL | can it be related to some eyecandy stuff (compiz,...) |
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| 09:39.11 | Colonel_Newb | anyone know how to set up sound in kde4, it broke when reinstalling, and i really havent messed with sound since arts had to be set up manually |
| 09:39.15 | wudongqing | hi all, i think kde does not support Chinese very well... |
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| 09:41.06 | Colonel_Newb | do u set sound in systemsettings to device, jack or pulse (and is arts outdated) ? |
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| 09:42.44 | ArShAm | hi all |
| 09:43.15 | ArShAm | I messed up my kde configurations , and if I remove .kde folder from my user home , nothing gets better |
| 09:43.36 | ArShAm | I need to reconfigure every packages and configuration files |
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| 09:46.53 | irina_r | away gone |
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| 09:50.26 | PhilRod | ArShAm: what's the problem, specifically? |
| 09:50.39 | ArShAm | here is the story |
| 09:50.51 | ArShAm | I upgraded to intrepid , and the KDE4 came up |
| 09:51.12 | ArShAm | then I needed kde3 back , so I added the new repository to hack this |
| 09:51.36 | ArShAm | and now , the big problem is in systemsettings , because I don't have it! |
| 09:52.01 | ArShAm | and in kcontrol , the modules cannot set to administrator mode |
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| 09:55.26 | ArShAm | what is the name of the module that controls gtk font and style , in kcontrol? |
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| 09:58.33 | PhilRod | kcmgtk |
| 09:58.38 | ArShAm | thanks |
| 09:59.03 | ArShAm | and I don't have it in my repository! |
| 09:59.45 | ArShAm | I have kcm-gtk-kde4 |
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| 10:14.50 | moltonel | Hi there. I'm having trouble builing kde4 from svn since I installed the version from my distro. |
| 10:15.19 | moltonel | cmake fails: it finds automoc4 installed by my distro, which is too old |
| 10:16.02 | moltonel | but I do have automoc from svn installed, and earlyer in the $PATH |
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| 10:17.19 | moltonel | So my question is: how do I tell cmake to look for automoc4 in my $PATH instead of in some hardcoded place ? |
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| 12:08.56 | blip- | hi, i am not able to change my wallpaper anymore, regardless of what wallpaper i select.. even after restarting X11... it has no effect... the same wallpaper i applied before is stuck... i may have messed with the Advanced Options in the place where it sets the program to draw the background. any idea how to fix this ? Thanks |
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| 12:18.25 | Raylz | hm, who else thinks of kde 4? http://www.heise.de/bilderstrecke/510/1/nt51ccfe |
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| 12:38.24 | Khas | Hello. Has anyone found a nice qt3 theme that goes well with oxygene? |
| 12:38.51 | kde_pepo | Domino |
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| 12:39.23 | kde_pepo | and there is a Oxygen deKorator clone |
| 12:39.52 | PPKuma | great! i was looking for info about deKorator |
| 12:40.22 | Khas | Ahh, lovely, I'll have to have a look |
| 12:40.36 | kde_pepo | http://kde-look.org |
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| 12:40.42 | PPKuma | is it still around? i found a dekorator theme but when looking for dekorator fon insalling it i got 404 |
| 12:41.03 | kde_pepo | deKorator, there are links in the comments that still work. |
| 12:41.25 | Khas | Oh hold on. |
| 12:41.29 | Khas | I'm getting confused. |
| 12:42.13 | kde_pepo | ask :) |
| 12:42.24 | Khas | I meant the oxygen style. :-D |
| 12:42.27 | PPKuma | why doesnt "apt-get install dekorator" works? |
| 12:43.01 | kde_pepo | PPKuma, I don't know if your distribution has packages... openSUSE doesn't. |
| 12:43.28 | kde_pepo | Khas, for widget style use domino. |
| 12:43.54 | Khas | Is that the best match do you think? |
| 12:44.16 | PPKuma | kde_pepo: im using kubuntu |
| 12:44.47 | irina_r | PPKuma: probably not in any installed repository |
| 12:45.01 | kde_pepo | Khas: "kwin-style-dekorator" |
| 12:45.15 | Khas | kde_pepo: hmm? |
| 12:45.24 | irina_r | probably meant for PPKuma |
| 12:45.30 | Khas | Ah that makes sense. |
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| 12:45.40 | kde_pepo | ah yes sorry |
| 12:45.46 | PPKuma | but... it's still cool to install dekorator? I mean, since it looks it's been out for a while isn't there maybe a more actual tool or something more recomendable? |
| 12:46.14 | kde_pepo | PPKuma, well, most people use Compiz with KDE 3, so there are 1000 emerald themes... |
| 12:46.27 | djibb | Hi all :) I'm under qt 4.1 and used to use konqueror to rip audiocd. Is there such a capability under dolphin ? |
| 12:46.56 | Sho_ | doubts that most people use compiz with KDE 3 |
| 12:47.16 | gkiagia | djibb: edit the address in dolphin and type audiocd:// |
| 12:47.22 | Sput | thinks many do |
| 12:47.27 | Sput | I certainly did :) |
| 12:47.35 | PPKuma | i see... and when i want to upgrade to kde4... do you think it might be a problem with dekorator? |
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| 12:47.44 | kde_pepo | Sho_, most of the people that want highly customized desktops probably :) |
| 12:47.58 | kde_pepo | PPKuma, I ported dekorator to KDE 4. |
| 12:47.59 | Sput | I'm surprised that some people still want to have compiz with KDE4 though |
| 12:48.04 | Sput | kwin4 is so much nicer IMHO |
| 12:48.15 | PPKuma | kde_pepo: isee :D |
| 12:48.31 | djibb | gkiagia : doesn't work |
| 12:48.36 | PPKuma | kde_pepo: ok, i'll install it right away, thanks for your help |
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| 12:49.08 | gkiagia | djibb: does it work in konqueror? |
| 12:49.15 | Sho_ | I've always preferred kwin myself -- whenever I tried compiz I had various corner case window management issues with it, it just never seemed really mature |
| 12:49.29 | djibb | gkiagia : not at all |
| 12:49.44 | kde_pepo | Sho_, yeah, that was early versions... |
| 12:50.02 | Sho_ | Even had a bug that I fixed in kwin myself once (restoring to maximized mode from fullscreen mode) |
| 12:50.39 | gkiagia | djibb: sorry, I think you need to type audiocd:/ (with one slash), can you try that? |
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| 12:51.57 | djibb | yes i've tried all this ;= |
| 12:52.07 | djibb | it doesn't work. may be I miss somethign |
| 12:52.39 | gkiagia | maybe you miss the audiocd kioslave |
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| 13:03.14 | djibb | does it exists in kde4 ? |
| 13:03.57 | Khas | djibb: yes it does. |
| 13:08.17 | PPKuma | hi, i've just installed dekorator with no errors, but i dont find it in the KDE's Control Center, not even in .kde/share/apps/ directory |
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| 13:25.06 | blip- | hi, I'm using KDE3 and the wallpaper setting ability has been destroyed... it's permanently stuck on an old wallpaper and doesn't change... even when i used feh to manually set it... restarted X11... it's still there |
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| 13:26.37 | ingwa | Hi! |
| 13:26.59 | ingwa | How can I use kpdf as the standard pdf viewer for firefox on a system with lots of users? |
| 13:27.09 | ingwa | I.e., I don't just want it for myself, but for everybody |
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| 13:28.36 | tuxick | ingwa: that is a userpref, ff is supposed to ask you what to open pdf with |
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| 13:28.49 | ingwa | tuxick: sure, but I want the default to be kpdf |
| 13:28.49 | tuxick | it's also not really a kde question :) |
| 13:29.04 | blip- | ingwa: also there may be a plugin kpdf-mozilla ? |
| 13:29.05 | tuxick | ooh sorry i misread |
| 13:29.06 | ingwa | tuxick: Not really, but I thought that since it should be kpdf... :-) |
| 13:29.06 | tuxick | for all usres |
| 13:29.35 | blip- | ingwa: i mean a plugin you install via synaptic/apt-get/etc... not a ffox extension |
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| 13:29.58 | ingwa | I'mnot talking about an extension, I'm talking about a setting. |
| 13:30.05 | ingwa | And it's not necessary that kpdf is actually embedded. |
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| 13:32.45 | _RedGhost_ | ingwa: you should ask on your distro channel... it doesn't matter if it's kpdf or another program, that's a distro-related issue |
| 13:33.01 | ingwa | _RedGhost_: really? I thought mozilla settings were the same everywhere. |
| 13:33.06 | ingwa | But ok, I'll try that |
| 13:33.27 | Khas | What's the path for nspluginwrapper plugins in konqueror? |
| 13:33.34 | Khas | Oh sorry, wrong kde channel heh |
| 13:34.04 | _RedGhost_ | ingwa: well, local mozilla settings, sure, but what you want is to change the *default* settings, which are system-wide and hence might vary depending on distro |
| 13:34.20 | ingwa | _RedGhost_: yeah, you're probably right |
| 13:34.25 | Andrew`` | can anyone point me in the direction of help for k3b? |
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| 13:35.02 | _RedGhost_ | Andrew``: http://k3b.plainblack.com/faq |
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| 13:38.30 | Andrew`` | redghost, I was hoping for info on the "ripping Audio Cd" than anything else. Moreover I want help in changing the bitrate of it from 128 to at least 256 |
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| 13:40.13 | djibb | Khas : I need to install kde4-audiocd package in order to install right kioslave |
| 13:42.48 | ingwa | Another question: Where is the association between a mime type (in this case pdf) and the application to open it stored? |
| 13:44.25 | [intra]lanman | can anyone tell me how i could use ctrl+tab in an application? KDE is hijacking it and switching desktops.... i've tried blocking global shortcuts in windo-specific settings, but i guess i missed something? |
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| 13:46.00 | Khas | djibb: ahh, that makes sense. I just pull in everything for kde heh |
| 13:47.12 | djibb | Khas ;) |
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| 13:56.36 | Andrew`` | anyone? |
| 13:57.57 | harry_ | i need to tell my browser how to handle `mailto:` links, what do i wish to poin tit to to use kmail? |
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| 13:59.38 | [intra]lanman | does anyone on #kde actually know the black magic of KDE? or is everyone looking for help? |
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| 14:02.03 | Half-Left | [intra]lanman: If you have a question about KDE just ask it |
| 14:02.24 | [intra]lanman | ummmm, i did... nobody answered.... which led me to my last one |
| 14:02.59 | PPKuma | hi, i've just installed dekorator with no errors, but i dont find it in the KDE's Control Center, not even in .kde/share/apps/ directory |
| 14:05.01 | [intra]lanman | Half-Left: should i maybe ask it a different way? how do i keep KDE from hijacking ctrl+tab (which is actually meant for an application) ?? |
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| 14:06.12 | Half-Left | [intra]lanman: Well how do tyou expect it to act, if it acted the way you want it then people would compile how they would want to switch apps via Alt, Tab |
| 14:06.25 | Half-Left | complain* |
| 14:07.39 | Half-Left | And it's not "hijacking" at all, it's the way it works |
| 14:08.41 | [intra]lanman | ok, so does that mean you don't know how to get the window-specific settings to ignore that for this single application? or it can't be done? or.....? |
| 14:09.18 | harry_ | i need to tell my browser how to handle `mailto:` links, what do i want to point it to so that it will use kmail (filling in the appropriate fields would be nice too)? |
| 14:09.22 | nanothief | [intra]lanman, what are you trying to do (I'm very confused atm) |
| 14:09.40 | nanothief | harry_, what browser? |
| 14:10.06 | harry_ | firefox 3 |
| 14:10.21 | [intra]lanman | nanothief: i'm trying to switch tabs inside an application... the shortcut happens to be ctrl+tab which KDE takes to mean i want to switch virtual desktops... |
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| 14:11.20 | harry_ | nanothief: i know how to do it, I just dont know what to feed it for info ie. /usr/bin/kmail %u or whatever |
| 14:11.30 | nanothief | harry: just /usr/bin/kmail works for me |
| 14:11.43 | _RedGhost_ | ctl-tab works in firefox without problems... |
| 14:11.46 | nanothief | note that I have kontact running though |
| 14:12.06 | nanothief | [intra]lanman, you must have set ctrl+tab to change desktops, you can change that shortcut to something less common |
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| 14:12.13 | harry_ | ok |
| 14:12.41 | nanothief | go to settings -> keyboard and mouse -> keyboard shortcuts and change it from there |
| 14:12.55 | [intra]lanman | nanothief: maybe it's that way by default from the debian package? i assure you i haven't changed that |
| 14:13.08 | [intra]lanman | but thanks for the help |
| 14:13.20 | _RedGhost_ | [intra]lanman: kde 4.1.2? |
| 14:13.21 | nanothief | yeah well thats strange :S |
| 14:13.48 | harry_ | sweet! thanks nanothief! |
| 14:14.11 | harry_ | that was so easy I am ashamed for asking |
| 14:14.26 | nanothief | hehe you overcomplicated it a bit trying to pass params :P |
| 14:14.52 | harry_ | a presumption on my part |
| 14:15.23 | nanothief | setting up akregator is another matter :( |
| 14:15.40 | syli725 | Using kde4.1. there are not many plasmoids around at present. so I have to use screenlets instead. Screenlets widgets are working fine except it will always show in task list. the property setting "skip taskbar" will make it skip invisible in taskbar panel. but when switching apps with alt+tab, they are still shown. any ways to hide them where switching with alt+tab? |
| 14:15.43 | [intra]lanman | _RedGhost_: 3.5 |
| 14:16.10 | _RedGhost_ | ah, too bad I removed it last week... at least on 4.1.2, there's no problem |
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| 14:16.17 | _RedGhost_ | can't remember if it worked in 3.5 |
| 14:16.39 | Half-Left | syli725: Dont provide support for screenlets in here |
| 14:17.42 | nanothief | Half-Left, well its not technically screenlet support, its getting kde to work better with them |
| 14:18.06 | syli725 | Half-Left, that's right. but I consider this is kde issue. screenlets can be hidden from task list in gnome without any problems. so I am wondering how to hide them in KDE. OR ignore the app name "Screenlets". how to hide any application in task list in kde4? |
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| 14:18.35 | nanothief | syli725, you could try settings -> window behaviour -> window specific, and add a rule to make them skip the taskbar |
| 14:18.54 | syli725 | nanothief, thank you very much. i will check systemsettings window behavior setting. |
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| 14:21.06 | Half-Left | syli725: Not sure Not use them in KDE, but it's a gnome orenated app I think isn't it? |
| 14:22.05 | Half-Left | syli725: In the end I think you would need to file a bug with tme and ask them to make them work with KDE4 better? |
| 14:22.12 | Half-Left | them* |
| 14:22.28 | syli725 | Half-Left, I don't think it's designed for any specific window/desktop manager. the only relationship with gnome I can think of is that it's written in gtk. |
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| 14:25.32 | syli725 | trying the window behavior -> window specific way. no luck so far. still trying to figure out why... |
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| 14:26.09 | Half-Left | syli725: Why not use superkaramba for KDE4 then? |
| 14:26.56 | syli725 | Half-Left, it's not installed by default. I only have plasma in kde4.1. I tried to adding superkarama.doesn't work. |
| 14:27.29 | Half-Left | syli725: works here, kdeultils? |
| 14:28.16 | _RedGhost_ | without installing new packages, you should have the option of installing a superkaramba widget |
| 14:28.27 | syli725 | Half-Left, I checked kde-look. there are many people posting their work to plasmoids. but they are not. none of them can be added. they are all superkaramba in nature. |
| 14:28.56 | syli725 | _RedGhost_, I know i should have it. but I don't. it doesn't show in plasma. maybe it's because of my distribution package. |
| 14:29.04 | _RedGhost_ | which is? |
| 14:29.23 | syli725 | _RedGhost_, opensuse 11.0 and kde4.1 from Factory repo |
| 14:29.50 | _RedGhost_ | ah, can't help there |
| 14:30.17 | syli725 | _RedGhost_, no worries. thanks. :) |
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| 14:43.57 | syli725 | Just tried window-specific rules. it's not working properly. It can make application "skip taskbar". but it still doesn't solve my problem. "skip taskbar" means skipping in the panel. but switching with alt+tab will still show the application. why? kde4 bug? |
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| 14:46.11 | nanothief | did you enable skip pager? |
| 14:46.20 | syli725 | I think systemsetting -> window-specific rule has the exact same problem as the screenlets own property "skip taskbar". |
| 14:46.33 | syli725 | nanothief, yeah, definitely. I will make it skip everything. but no help. |
| 14:47.14 | syli725 | the rule does match the application. to prove that, it can hide application from taskbar panel. BUT the app is still shown in alt+tab. |
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| 14:48.48 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | hey guys... hwat abou KDE 4.2 alpha 1? Is it delayed? |
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| 14:52.16 | gkiagia | oh, that was to be done yesterday |
| 14:52.54 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | yes. however, there is no alpha? Why it isn't still aired? |
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| 14:55.21 | syli725 | nanothief, I even tried to change the window type to force be Desktop. still no help... |
| 14:55.40 | nanothief | syli725, I don't know then |
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| 14:56.11 | syli725 | nanothief, can you reproduce the same thing in your place? or just my kde instance has this problem... |
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| 14:56.34 | nanothief | well I had a go at making some settings for a kate window, and nothing worked (kde 4.1.2) |
| 14:56.34 | _RedGhost_ | syli725: there's a bug in kde with alt+tab, it doesn't ignore minimized apps... maybe your issue is related |
| 14:57.12 | nanothief | syli725, as a second option, you might want to try devilspie |
| 14:57.12 | syli725 | _RedGhost_, yeah, it doesn't ignore minimized apps. you are right. that is the case in my environment. is this bug fixed? |
| 14:57.25 | _RedGhost_ | I think it'll be fixed for 4.2 |
| 14:57.35 | _RedGhost_ | maybe is already fixed in trunk, I don't know |
| 14:57.47 | syli725 | nanothief, _RedGhost_, OK. thank you very much for the help. |
| 14:57.57 | _RedGhost_ | syli725: de rien |
| 14:57.57 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | BTW: Will there be a KDE 4.1.3 release? |
| 14:58.17 | gkiagia | Cmdr_Keaton[XO]: yes, tagging of 4.1.3 will hapen today |
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| 14:58.49 | gkiagia | Cmdr_Keaton[XO]: but I have no idea why 4.2-alpha1 is not there |
| 14:58.51 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | so, what is about 4.2 alpha 1? |
| 14:59.32 | _RedGhost_ | I think alpha 1 was cancelled due to it being for developpers only |
| 14:59.34 | _RedGhost_ | or something |
| 15:00.01 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | cancelled?^^.... hm, this is interesting^^ |
| 15:00.30 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | so, what will be the first official public release for 4.2? Beta 1? |
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| 15:00.42 | _RedGhost_ | saw something along these lines on the chan, just before I left, but I don't have the history |
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| 15:01.30 | ericP | how do i know what version of kde i'm running? is it encoded in the kdebase deb version number "4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-5"? |
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| 15:02.08 | _RedGhost_ | ericP: in any app, Help -> About KDE |
| 15:02.13 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | at least it is 3.5.9 |
| 15:02.37 | ericP | tx kindly |
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| 15:03.17 | syli725 | ericP, kde4-config -version (for kde4) kde-config -version (for kde3) |
| 15:03.34 | gkiagia | ericP: 4:3.5.9 means you have kde 3.5.9 |
| 15:05.09 | ericP | thanks |
| 15:05.20 | ericP | any idea when 4. will hit debian sid? |
| 15:05.51 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | they do not consider it as stable, AFAIK... |
| 15:06.16 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | maybe there are already some unstable-packages |
| 15:06.19 | ericP | sid is AKA "unstable", but yes, your point holds |
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| 15:07.07 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | I think there was a blog some time ago about the state of KDE 4 in Debian on Planet KDE... |
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| 15:09.56 | _RedGhost_ | there are some bits in unstable, but mostly everything is in experimental still |
| 15:10.09 | _RedGhost_ | works pretty well though |
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| 15:16.31 | gkiagia | ericP: it will hit sid when lenny is released. until then there is kde4 in experimental and in lenny backports. for more debian questions, please ask in #debian-kde |
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| 15:17.18 | ericP | gkiagia, roger |
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| 15:22.45 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | is there anyone who could know when the first 4.2 release will arrive? |
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| 15:23.42 | ViennaL | Cmdr_Keaton[XO]: and they hopefully fix the flicker-bug caused by xrandr |
| 15:23.42 | katastrophe | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] january |
| 15:24.09 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | i didn't the first stable release, but a beta or something |
| 15:24.23 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | the first dev-release or testversion |
| 15:27.50 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | hm, it seems nobody knows... kinda of a KDE secret |
| 15:27.53 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | ^^ |
| 15:32.08 | rdieter | Cmdr_Keaton[XO]: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules ? (not exactly a secret) |
| 15:32.15 | luke-jr | lol |
| 15:32.38 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | but that'S the problem... alpha 1 should already be released |
| 15:32.48 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | and someone said it has been cancelled |
| 15:32.49 | _RedGhost_ | that said, the official schedule is "when it's done" |
| 15:33.13 | rdieter | Cmdr_Keaton[XO]: latest weekly snapshot = alpha 1 essentially |
| 15:33.46 | rdieter | nothing official beyond that. |
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| 15:34.45 | Cmdr_Keaton[XO] | so there will be no official release announcement? Any chance to get precompilled packages for an live-CD as in 4.1 alpha/beta? |
| 15:35.10 | sabayonuser | ciao emma |
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| 15:53.09 | patkoscsaba | hi all |
| 15:53.15 | patkoscsaba | any quanta users around? |
| 15:53.51 | patkoscsaba | how do I disable syntax hinting? (those pop-ups that appear when you hit a key with a list of possible commands) |
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| 15:58.03 | thumper | I'm using KDE4.1 on intrepid and I want to be able to configure the keys to switch between the virtual desktops |
| 15:58.13 | thumper | where did the configuration place go for this? |
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| 15:59.38 | patkoscsaba | kde control center |
| 15:59.43 | patkoscsaba | keyboard shortcuts |
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| 16:02.14 | _RedGhost_ | patkoscsaba: systemsettings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> kwin |
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| 16:06.33 | thumper | patkoscsaba: thanks |
| 16:06.46 | thumper | man I missed those |
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| 16:13.46 | twouters | hi, kdebase trunk failed to build, does anyone know what i'm missing? http://pastebin.com/de21e0a5 |
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| 16:19.12 | katastrophe | twouters strigi? |
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| 16:21.23 | twouters | katastrophe: i don't think so, -- Found Strigi |
| 16:21.29 | twouters | that's what cmake said |
| 16:21.40 | katastrophe | hm, no idea |
| 16:24.04 | twouters | hm, it's probably because i don't have kdesupport :) |
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| 16:40.37 | emma | I use KDE4. I would have to say I'm pretty pleased with it. I never used KDE3 so I'm not sure why so many people who used KDE3 say they don't care for it. |
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| 16:43.52 | Half-Left | emma: Because it's very feature rich and KDE4 is not, they dont understand it's pretty much rewriten and new |
| 16:45.02 | emma | Half-Left: but isn't it reasonable to expect KDE4 is going to become just as feature rich, along with its extra production value? |
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| 16:46.00 | emma | How do they expect linux to become a real contender with the proprietary OSes if you don't have KDE stepping up to match the best of the high end choices? |
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| 16:46.28 | Half-Left | Emess: Yes it will, KDE4.2 will be but expected KDE4.0 to have the same features as KDE3.5.x |
| 16:46.38 | Half-Left | they* |
| 16:46.55 | emma | I got you. |
| 16:47.03 | Phlogi | anyone has a recent kde trunk build and can tell me if there are major things broken? |
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| 16:47.20 | Half-Left | Plasma is all new, alot of new other parts of KDE4 which new API's |
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| 16:48.27 | Half-Left | Phlogi: Just updated, seesm fine but I need to logout really :p |
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| 16:48.41 | neXyon | hi |
| 16:48.42 | Phlogi | Half-Left: haha nice... so those plasma issue are gone? |
| 16:48.52 | deso | hih |
| 16:48.55 | deso | -h |
| 16:50.00 | Half-Left | emma: Exactly, Linux DE users want innvoation but you need to chnage things to do that, Mostly people just got into a flap abouit it |
| 16:50.08 | Half-Left | What issues? |
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| 16:50.30 | Emess | Half-Left: kde4 is shit and everyone should use kdemod3.5.10 EOF |
| 16:50.32 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: won't be quite feature-identical, there will still be at least one major piece missing (printer configuration in settings) |
| 16:50.38 | neXyon | I have that nice shortcuts-not-working bug, any workaround known? |
| 16:51.27 | Half-Left | Well KDE4 has other features that KDE3 doesn't have so it's a null point |
| 16:51.46 | neXyon | which features does kde4 have, kde3 doesn't? |
| 16:51.59 | Phlogi | neXyon: plasma? |
| 16:52.12 | Half-Left | neXyon: Go work is out yourself, it has many |
| 16:52.36 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: all features are equal, but some features are more equal than others (like the printer config) |
| 16:52.59 | _RedGhost_ | not to undermine the huge work done to get a better desktop, which I absolutely love |
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| 16:53.39 | Half-Left | _RedGhost_: Sure some features are missing for reasons buit people dont need to go on a march with their folks and fire |
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| 16:54.08 | neXyon | I'd use kde4 if it wouldn't have that shortcut bug :-/ |
| 16:54.28 | Half-Left | And like ^ reasons |
| 16:54.52 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: now, now... it woudln't be the Internet without the pitchforks and the flamewars, would it? |
| 16:54.56 | Phlogi | neXyon: there is a bug report about it? Fixed in trunk? |
| 16:55.13 | neXyon | well, I don't build kde myself :-/ |
| 16:55.24 | Half-Left | _RedGhost_: I guess not but it's mainly KDE's own users that are doing it |
| 16:55.56 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: but they live on the Internet |
| 16:56.28 | Half-Left | KDE3.x in ways is a mess and they can't admitt it but KDE4 fixes alot of that miss |
| 16:56.31 | Half-Left | mess* |
| 16:56.32 | emilsedgh | i just installed a fresh debian + kde from svn.the brightness and other solid based stuff worked at first, bbut they are not working anymore.when i try solid-powermanagement brightness get it says "The library "/home/emilsedgh/kde/lib/kde4/solid_hal_power.so" does not offera qt_plugin_instance function." |
| 16:56.32 | emilsedgh | and then: solid-powermanagement(22112) Solid::Control::ManagerBasePrivate::loadBackend: Backend loaded: "HAL-Power" |
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| 16:59.07 | MaikB | Hi. Which is the right IRC channel and/or mailing list for extragear-multimedia related issues. I've found a bug in the CMake scripts. Thx |
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| 17:05.00 | neXyon | is there a development irc channel of kde? |
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| 17:06.15 | blip- | hi, i'm no longer able to set my wallpaper on Kubuntu Hardy... it's stuck on the old wallpaper. i've restared the machine and even tried setting the wallpaper using feh.. but to no avail. I think it happened after i checked the Advanced Options in the desktop wallpaper window. any ideas what could be causing this ? did something break in KDE/Kubuntu ? Thanks |
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| 17:07.03 | blip- | one thing to note is when i set the wallpaper using feh... actually conky the system monitor which is set to be transparent, shows this new wallpaper. but the rest of the desktop area is the old wallpaper |
| 17:07.10 | MaikB | neXyon: #kde-devel |
| 17:07.28 | neXyon | thx |
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| 17:12.03 | Half-Left | It's funny, Opera say they dont provide Qt4 builds because they want to minimize packages yet they still provide debs for 3 Ubuntu version that are old :p |
| 17:12.48 | Half-Left | Some people just come up crap excues |
| 17:13.13 | blip- | if i want to use feh to set the KDE wallpaper via the Advanced Options in the KDE3 wallpaper menu.... what is the name of the KDE wallpaper program to do "feh --bg-scale %n" but that doesn't seem to work... what is it then if not %n ? |
| 17:14.21 | Half-Left | Why do you even need to do that? |
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| 17:17.22 | Half-Left | Opera even do GCC builds LOL |
| 17:17.33 | Half-Left | 2.95 builds* |
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| 17:20.15 | blip- | Half-Left: because feh sets the real root wallpaper (i don't know what that means but it's different from what the KDE setter does)... this feh behaviour results in a transparent Conky... while using KDE setter gives a garbled appearance for Conky. I learned this feh solution from a guide online |
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| 17:22.39 | Half-Left | blip-: Conkey is some system info on the desktop? |
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| 17:25.39 | junkDawgie | i'd like to set that up too so when plasma borks, instead of blank screen i'd get "you are screwed" |
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| 17:26.55 | blip- | Half-Left: yes. if you don't mind please take a look at this. Before giving the command "feh --bg-scale `dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper 1`" http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=39484077rs4.jpg .... after: http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=67310303fw3.jpg :) |
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| 17:27.48 | blip- | Ha |
| 17:28.27 | blip- | Half-Left: so effectively i need a way to issue the feh command everytime i change wallpaper with KDE app... OR... i can use feh to set the wallpaper in the first place, but command line just doesn't cut it |
| 17:28.49 | Half-Left | Ugh, looks ugly conkey :p |
| 17:28.59 | blip- | Half-Left: so i'm hoping the Advanced Options in the KDE setter will let me use feh to actually set ... but also give me the power of the KDE setter |
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| 17:29.38 | blip- | Half-Left: really :D I think it looks nice, it's simple and light. i prefer the look over google gadgets or Superkaramba or the like |
| 17:30.02 | blip- | and very configurable |
| 17:30.39 | Half-Left | If you like that sort of thing on your desktop |
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| 17:34.04 | dsf | hi there |
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| 17:45.20 | jthomas | what does Kopete mean when a user is offline but has a <!> sign over it ? |
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| 17:53.29 | blip- | Half-Left: can you please help me with the wallpaper thing i asked a while ago.. no the feh thing...i am completely unable to change my desktop wallpaper anymore. It's stuck on an old one. could you please tell me what it says in the Advance Options in the wallpaper setter on your system so i can check my settings... I'm thinking of reinstalling KDE because there is no response to changing wallpaper at all even after restarting the system. |
| 17:53.36 | blip- | *not the |
| 17:53.48 | Half-Left | I have no idea |
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| 17:54.05 | blip- | oh ok, thanks |
| 17:54.24 | Half-Left | Dont use conkey or feh |
| 17:55.32 | jthomas | blip-: try removing ~/.kde before reinstalling it completely; that will wipe out your KDE settings and revert them to default, may help |
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| 17:56.56 | blip- | jthomas: ok great i'll try that but a few doubts: can i delete all but Autostart directory ? Do i need to login via another system like openbox or i can delete directly form KDE ? also do i need a system restart after ? |
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| 17:58.09 | jthomas | move the Autostart folder to just /home/yourname/ ; then you can delete from within KDE, log out, and log in again; then replace the Autostart |
| 17:58.13 | jthomas | no need to reboot |
| 17:58.27 | dcoats | blip-: logout of your kde session mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old and start kde again |
| 17:58.29 | jthomas | if this is kde4 it may be .kde4 |
| 17:58.41 | jthomas | yeah that works too, just move it |
| 17:58.53 | blip- | nice. ok thanks jthomas. i'lldo that now (kde3) |
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| 18:01.29 | SimAtWork2 | amarok and kdevelop are both claiming they can't find their plugsi all of a sudden |
| 18:01.41 | SimAtWork2 | anyone know what the problem might be? |
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| 18:02.31 | SimAtWork2 | if i start from cli i get lots of these: kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-png' |
| 18:02.54 | SimAtWork2 | not sure if it's relaetd or not... |
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| 18:03.56 | p_masho | anyone here think that WindoZozeer.V-7 looks like KDE 4 ? |
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| 18:05.26 | jazka | p_masho: yes, I got that impression, while looking at the screenshots |
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| 18:06.27 | p_masho | funny thing for me was a couple of years a go I had beryl.. and it looked like a MAC... |
| 18:07.14 | p_masho | then I switched it into redmond mode... jazka - what goes around comes around.. I guess i wouldnt be passionate about code unless........ |
| 18:07.25 | Half-Left | p_masho: Well lets face it, they always have had this attitude of fighting other OS's for the sake of market share even if it's 1% |
| 18:08.03 | Half-Left | KDE4.x is innovating and they can't have that |
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| 18:08.30 | p_masho | Half-Left: INCORRECT:: ERROR = they watch and see which way the tide goes, and then all turnup at the beach the same time... |
| 18:09.27 | Half-Left | I guess they could put it that way yes, but Linux has only 1% desktop and they are gettign into a fuss about it already |
| 18:09.35 | p_masho | just an observation - after ... maybe new backgrounds.. mr DaboBallmer mre BaBooBallmeer... |
| 18:10.20 | Half-Left | Funny how people said KDE4 looks like Vista |
| 18:10.29 | Half-Left | Now it's the other way around |
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| 18:11.04 | Micro_ChairThrow | Yo.. any of ewe looked at wind& |
| 18:11.04 | Half-Left | Didn't Aaron predict this! |
| 18:11.14 | Half-Left | Yes, he did |
| 18:11.18 | krokodil | how do i make 'no syntax highlighting' the default option in katepart? |
| 18:11.28 | krokodil | i wanna try this out for a bit |
| 18:11.42 | Micro_ChairThrow | Yoo Can u see me or shall I thro a chair |
| 18:12.00 | krokodil | ... without making a new all-black scheme, that's too much work :p |
| 18:12.01 | irina_r | krokodil: try saving the session as default after making it the way you like it |
| 18:12.53 | p_masho | m$ have just copied kde4/mac IMHO |
| 18:13.16 | nagchampa | haha, that's ridiculous |
| 18:13.43 | nagchampa | everyone copies everyone, there's no way to be able to say who's copied who anymore |
| 18:13.54 | Half-Left | I hope Windows 7 is all glass and and watch the usability go to crap |
| 18:14.09 | krokodil | irina_r: That works in every scenario i tried. cheers =) |
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| 18:14.19 | irina_r | oh good! |
| 18:14.35 | irina_r | worked for me with htabs |
| 18:14.46 | irina_r | tabs, can't spell :-) |
| 18:14.53 | supert0nes | difference is with open software its not considered copying but when winblowz takes it you feel like you were robbed |
| 18:14.54 | krokodil | :p |
| 18:15.00 | SimAtWork2 | Half-Left: really? I hope windows 7 is really good.. and everyone sticks to Xp anyhow. Then i'll know why people aren't moving to linux by the billions... it' cause they are stupid. |
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| 18:15.07 | nagchampa | why would anyone HOPE new windows sucks? |
| 18:15.08 | jthomas | blip- did that work, to remove .kde ? |
| 18:15.17 | nagchampa | it's so wide spread, everone is goign to have to use it eventually |
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| 18:15.40 | nagchampa | i'd prefer Microsoft come out with a GOOD operating system so i don't have half as much tech support for family, and when I do have to use their OS it's not painful |
| 18:15.42 | Half-Left | SimAtWork2: People wont move to linux is the masses like people said would happen, it never was going to |
| 18:15.49 | Half-Left | in* |
| 18:15.53 | blip- | jthomas: ok that did it. but i've lost all my settings and email/kontact stuff... i have a backup of .kde-old... i'm trying to find out exactly which settings folder relates to the wallpaper setter. |
| 18:16.21 | blip- | jthomas: i looked at share/apps and deleting kdesktop directory from there but that didn't help. |
| 18:16.21 | nagchampa | Linux is definately getting a better user base mostly due to better usability, but unless it starts getting more OEMs, windows will always have a larger user base |
| 18:16.39 | supert0nes | do you need those users? |
| 18:16.43 | Half-Left | Windows has good usability, muuuhahahahahahaha |
| 18:16.58 | nagchampa | unfortunately, and this is purely my own opinion, KDE4 is a step back from 3.5 on usability |
| 18:17.01 | nagchampa | and 4.1 is not much better |
| 18:17.03 | Half-Left | sorry, off-topic pino will slay us |
| 18:17.29 | blip- | jthomas: just to be clear, yes if i delete .kde the wallpaper works perfectly.. but i can't do that since i've spent weeks configuring each application. i want to pinpoint the culprit file |
| 18:17.34 | nagchampa | well, is there a channel we CAN discuss KDE vs Windows Desktop? |
| 18:17.45 | Half-Left | #kde-chat |
| 18:17.54 | nagchampa | blip-: what's the problem if you don't mind me asking you to tell again? |
| 18:18.05 | Half-Left | So stop now or get slayed |
| 18:18.13 | krokodil | slain! |
| 18:18.13 | jthomas | yeah good to back up; as i had mentioned it would get reverted back to default kde |
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| 18:18.28 | jthomas | blip-: ^^ |
| 18:18.28 | Half-Left | I spell how I want |
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| 18:18.34 | SimAtWork2 | hey guys, amarok and kdevelop are both saying they can't find their plugins.. and are shutting down. |
| 18:18.39 | SimAtWork2 | where do they look for the plugins? |
| 18:18.46 | SimAtWork2 | they where working right up until the last reboot. |
| 18:18.56 | krokodil | SimAtWork2: $LD_LIBRARY_DIR or sth |
| 18:19.00 | nagchampa | what did you do before your last reboot? |
| 18:19.07 | SimAtWork2 | sth? |
| 18:19.13 | krokodil | er, $LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 18:19.23 | krokodil | something |
| 18:19.26 | Scorp1us | did the 4.2 alpha release happen yesterday |
| 18:19.28 | SimAtWork2 | if my LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty.... what does that mean |
| 18:19.58 | Scorp1us | it would mean that you ls.so.conf already has the path for the plugins |
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| 18:19.59 | blip- | nagchampa: something was stuck and i wasn't able to change the wallpaper at all anymore. it's stuck on the old wallpaper... so i deleted .kde (made backup) and that solved it. but it's not a solution since i've lost all my emails and kde program settings that i've spent weeks tweaking... so i want to identify which directory in .kde relates to the wallpaper setter program... i know for sure it's in .kde/apps... but i deleted a "kdesktop" directory from in |
| 18:19.59 | blip- | there but no effect. |
| 18:20.28 | nagchampa | fair enough |
| 18:20.30 | blip- | nagchampa: ie the problem remained.. so it must be some other file/dir that relates to the wallpaper program |
| 18:20.33 | krokodil | SimAtWork2: it means you apps look in some default place, probably whatever `kde-config --prefix` returns |
| 18:20.34 | nagchampa | hangon, i think i know where the problem is |
| 18:20.38 | jthomas | blip- maybe .kde/config/ |
| 18:20.38 | nagchampa | what version of kde are you using? |
| 18:20.40 | SimAtWork2 | krokodil: LDPAATH = /usr/kde/3.5/lib:/usr/kde/3.5/lib64:/usr/kde/3.5/lib32: |
| 18:20.44 | SimAtWork2 | is that what you mean? |
| 18:20.47 | blip- | kde3 |
| 18:20.51 | krokodil | LDPAATH? no |
| 18:20.59 | blip- | actually give me a min to verify something. i'll brb |
| 18:21.03 | krokodil | doesn't ring a bell |
| 18:21.18 | krokodil | neither does LDPATH |
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| 18:25.43 | nagchampa | blip-: try ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc |
| 18:25.57 | blip- | k thanks brb |
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| 18:27.11 | SimAtWork2 | man, this sucks |
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| 18:27.30 | SimAtWork2 | i don't even know what path it wants me to supply |
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| 18:28.47 | blip- | nagchampa: that did it. all is good. thanks :) |
| 18:28.53 | blip- | thanks jthomas :) |
| 18:29.27 | nagchampa | np |
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| 18:30.44 | blip- | it was stuck on a really ugly wallpaper for 2 days. the whole machine feels different now :D |
| 18:31.37 | nagchampa | yay :D |
| 18:31.45 | nagchampa | it's always nice to have things working properly |
| 18:32.02 | nagchampa | that's why even though I use gentoo, i usually don't try to mess around too much once somethings working right :P |
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| 18:35.07 | jthomas | good to hear blip- |
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| 18:41.05 | neXyon | in http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=122424918710940&w=2 he talks about an action "Window to Next Screen" where/how do I find/configure it? |
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| 18:46.15 | krokodil | Hey, can any KDE user recommend a distro? i'm looking to switch from suse. I just need a fast, stable, no frills Linux with a fast and really usable package manager. Sorry for the slight OT |
| 18:46.46 | neXyon | krokodil: which kde version do you want to use 3 or 4? |
| 18:46.55 | krokodil | 4 (from distro packages) |
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| 18:48.53 | neXyon | and how experienced are you with linux krokodil? |
| 18:49.27 | krokodil | Very much -- apart from real sys administration or kernel stuff I can do pretty much anything |
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| 18:49.53 | supert0nes | i would recommend arch or kubuntu |
| 18:50.19 | supert0nes | apt and pacman are both sweet |
| 18:50.20 | apt | okay, supert0nes |
| 18:50.32 | neXyon | lol supert0nes, the same as I would have recommended |
| 18:50.58 | neXyon | or gentoo, portage is very usable, but unfortunately installations take long ;-) |
| 18:51.07 | krokodil | Thanks :) |
| 18:51.21 | krokodil | Any pitfalls with Arch? Like a small number of packages? |
| 18:51.38 | supert0nes | difficult setup |
| 18:51.39 | neXyon | well there is aur for arch |
| 18:51.48 | supert0nes | may have to print out the instructions |
| 18:52.09 | krokodil | Right |
| 18:52.10 | pusling | krokodil: debian has the "closest to released kde" kde packages .. |
| 18:52.15 | neXyon | well not really difficult to use, but takes longer to install than just clicking a checkbox and apply |
| 18:52.44 | supert0nes | as long as your not scared of a couple config files |
| 18:52.51 | krokodil | pusling: That sounds good. I guess Slack has a similarly virgin KDE as well? |
| 18:53.13 | pusling | krokodil: I don't know about slack |
| 18:53.20 | krokodil | Okay, thanks :) |
| 18:53.33 | supert0nes | i can't imagine arch does much to their kde packages |
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| 18:55.15 | neXyon | supert0nes: you're wrong! there is kdemod in arch! |
| 18:55.48 | krokodil | who uses kdemod anyway ;) |
| 18:55.59 | neXyon | http://kdemod.ath.cx/ |
| 18:56.09 | supert0nes | looking now |
| 18:56.34 | krokodil | it's a kde3 with domino, tango, and modularized packages. nothing special about it :p |
| 18:56.38 | supert0nes | who uses kde3 anyways :) |
| 18:56.49 | guax | me |
| 18:56.50 | neXyon | it's kde4 -.- |
| 18:56.50 | guax | =P |
| 18:57.00 | krokodil | they updated it? hm |
| 18:57.07 | neXyon | and I use kde3 with gentoo and ubuntu 8.04 |
| 18:57.12 | supert0nes | knew I would push a button or 2 on that one |
| 18:57.39 | neXyon | kde4 doesn't work for me |
| 18:57.47 | neXyon | at least not in current stable versions |
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| 18:58.16 | supert0nes | hmm |
| 18:59.01 | nagchampa | kde4.1 still feels very unfinished |
| 18:59.13 | supert0nes | good thing 4.2 is months away then |
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| 19:03.10 | SimAtWork | holy crap |
| 19:03.15 | SimAtWork | kdelibs takes a LONG time to compile! |
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| 19:06.05 | SimAtWork | oh yes |
| 19:06.08 | SimAtWork | it's done |
| 19:06.10 | SimAtWork | and that fixed kdevelop! |
| 19:06.12 | SimAtWork | wahoo |
| 19:07.02 | SimAtWork | and amarok |
| 19:08.32 | nanothief | always fun when a compile succeeds |
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| 19:08.58 | SimAtWork | and fixes your problems :) |
| 19:10.09 | lilltiger | Unfortunally that seldom work.. I have probly compiled a program like 30times no, and yet the memory leaks wont dissapear :p |
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| 19:19.22 | UVSoft | hi |
| 19:20.17 | UVSoft | is it possible to automatically hide the bottom panel? like it was in 3.x |
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| 19:20.37 | UVSoft | i didnt find this option |
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| 19:21.15 | cumulus007 | hey, I just installed KDE 4.1 and it's great :) |
| 19:21.29 | cumulus007 | I have some questions about KDE and its apps |
| 19:21.32 | nagchampa | haha, wow, i stand corrected, windows 7 IS looking very kde http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-10-28/windows%207%20desktop.jpg |
| 19:21.38 | UVSoft | yeah, it's fabtastic! |
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| 19:21.59 | cumulus007 | Dolphin doesn't produce thumbnails of my movies, how can I let Dolphin do that? |
| 19:22.02 | nagchampa | http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-10-28/windows%207%20docs.jpg |
| 19:22.04 | luke-jr | the new hex editor looks sweet |
| 19:22.13 | luke-jr | cumulus007: install the mplayer thing |
| 19:22.58 | Karolis | wallpaper reminds me of the one used in fedora 9 |
| 19:23.03 | cumulus007 | KDE doesn't have a movie player, like GNOME's Totem? |
| 19:23.14 | Karolis | kplayer.. based on mplayer |
| 19:23.26 | luke-jr | I bet Totem has a backend too |
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| 19:23.42 | cumulus007 | GStreamer |
| 19:23.45 | cumulus007 | or Xine |
| 19:23.55 | cumulus007 | okay, i'll have a look at it |
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| 19:24.40 | Half-Left | cumulus007: KDE4? |
| 19:24.46 | rhavenn | cumulus007: kaffeine, but it's kde3 still |
| 19:24.50 | cumulus007 | my tray icons are very ugly, is this a bug? |
| 19:25.15 | cumulus007 | Half-Left, yes, KDE 4 |
| 19:25.22 | Half-Left | Dragon Player is default, or a good one is smplayer for Qt4 |
| 19:25.28 | Karolis | cumulus007: ATI radeon? |
| 19:26.26 | cumulus007 | Karolis, no, Geforce |
| 19:26.41 | Half-Left | cumulus007: The tray corrption is a number of things, but from what In can see so far 4.2 will better much better |
| 19:26.43 | Karolis | cumulus007: I have a problem with tray icons.. I always blamed it on ATI |
| 19:26.48 | UVSoft | is it possible to hide the bottom bar after several seconds? |
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| 19:27.17 | busfahrer | Excuse me, does KDE4 use any of the dot-dirs (like .kde) of KDE3? |
| 19:27.30 | lilltiger | Kmplayer,Kaffeine for kde 3, Dragon player for kde 4 |
| 19:27.45 | cumulus007 | you have the right to do that, their drivers aren't very well :P |
| 19:27.55 | cumulus007 | hm, dragon player is very very basic |
| 19:28.39 | jazka | busfahrer: .kde4? |
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| 19:29.47 | cumulus007 | Amarok is still KDE 3 I see |
| 19:30.08 | luke-jr | Karolis: at least it's not nVidia |
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| 19:30.44 | nanothief | there is a amarok 2 (running atm), though there is still a lot of missing functionality |
| 19:30.48 | UVSoft | .... so guys, in kde4 you cant hide panels? |
| 19:31.06 | luke-jr | nanothief: Amarok 2 is fail |
| 19:31.07 | jazka | UVSoft: you can, with 4.2 trunk :) |
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| 19:31.11 | luke-jr | it can't even play music :/ |
| 19:31.12 | rhavenn | busfahrer: depends on your distro, FreeBSD uses .kde for kde3 and .kde4 for kde4 |
| 19:31.21 | UVSoft | jazka, (( |
| 19:31.23 | nanothief | luke-jr, you don't have it setup right :P |
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| 19:31.40 | luke-jr | nanothief: there's no settings for output! |
| 19:32.07 | jazka | personally I still prefer amarok 1.4 |
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| 19:32.16 | nanothief | luke-jr: sound settings are now all in system-settings |
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| 19:32.49 | nanothief | go system-settings -> sound -> backend and change it to gstreamer |
| 19:32.57 | nanothief | (and install gstreamer packages) |
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| 19:33.41 | nanothief | jazka, I do too atm, though I really like the new dynamic playlists (which can have stuff like 40% rock) |
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| 19:34.33 | km | Hello everybody |
| 19:34.42 | jazka | I'm stuck to my old habit, having everything in one huge playlist ;) |
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| 19:35.40 | km | I am having a problem installing kde trunk (on gentoo, using the paludis overlay), and would like to check if it is specific to the distrib or not |
| 19:36.17 | km | it seems that kbuildsycoca4 either stalls in the middle or do not exit properly when finished |
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| 19:37.30 | km | when I run it from the command prompt, I have some warnings and at a certain point it just stops, untill I kill it (tried to leave it running for an hour or two) |
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| 19:45.24 | luke-jr | nanothief: how do I test it? |
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| 19:46.01 | nanothief | run amarok 2? |
| 19:46.12 | nanothief | possibly other kde 4 apps |
| 19:46.31 | nanothief | it really lacks any good error messages atm |
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| 19:46.45 | nanothief | it either works, or fails silently, which is annoying |
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| 19:52.17 | luke-jr | argh |
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| 19:52.25 | luke-jr | nanothief: well, it doesn't seem to be fixable |
| 19:52.32 | luke-jr | and a bigger bug is annoying me at the moment |
| 19:52.41 | nanothief | luke-jr, what os are you using? |
| 19:52.45 | luke-jr | unfortunately, despite being a major regression, it appears to be WontFix in bugzilla ☹ |
| 19:52.49 | luke-jr | nanothief: Gentoo |
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| 19:53.00 | nanothief | arr have no experience with that :( |
| 19:53.18 | luke-jr | the bigger problem is mouse-wheel focusing |
| 19:53.28 | luke-jr | KDE 4 no longer focusses a window when the mouse wheel is used over it |
| 19:53.34 | nanothief | just make sure gstreamer packages are installed, and it should work |
| 19:53.48 | nanothief | so it just scrolls in the background? |
| 19:54.28 | luke-jr | yeah :/ |
| 19:54.41 | nanothief | heh thats the way I like it :P |
| 19:54.48 | luke-jr | apparently someone complained that the focus changing was a "bug" and got it fixed |
| 19:54.58 | luke-jr | and now those of us who depend on it are in the dark |
| 19:55.01 | luke-jr | -.- |
| 19:55.11 | nanothief | yeah, they should have made it an option |
| 19:55.24 | luke-jr | and until it's an option, it should be backward compatible |
| 19:55.26 | luke-jr | sigh |
| 19:55.48 | _RedGhostBis_ | you could try focus follows mouse :) |
| 19:55.58 | luke-jr | _RedGhostBis_: I don't want that |
| 19:56.03 | luke-jr | I like click-to-focus |
| 19:56.25 | _RedGhostBis_ | alrighty |
| 19:57.11 | Taldor | Hi. Desktop effects don't work in kde-4.1.2 for me, although composite seems to work. Are there other requirements for the desktop effects to work? |
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| 20:00.18 | Half-Left | Taldor: What hardware do you have? |
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| 20:01.02 | Taldor | Half-Left: I have a GeForce 6600 GT video card |
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| 20:01.39 | Half-Left | Taldor: Assuming the nvidia driver is installed it should be working |
| 20:02.02 | Taldor | Half-Left: it's installed, but it's not working |
| 20:02.18 | Thundercloud | Nvidia's drivers have problems with desktop effects |
| 20:02.23 | Thundercloud | But it's usually that they slow down. |
| 20:02.23 | Taldor | Half-Left: the drivers is working fine, the desktop effects aren't |
| 20:02.40 | Thundercloud | Taldor: I hate to say it, but just to rule out silly solutions: |
| 20:02.49 | Thundercloud | 1: You are actually RUNNING the driver yes? |
| 20:02.58 | Thundercloud | And 2: Desktop Effects are switched on yes? |
| 20:03.01 | Thundercloud | They're not by default. |
| 20:03.14 | Taldor | Thundercloud: i believe so, do you know a command to check? |
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| 20:03.22 | Thundercloud | Taldor: To check if you're running the driver? |
| 20:03.24 | Taldor | Thundercloud: 2: yes |
| 20:03.27 | Thundercloud | vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:03.34 | Thundercloud | Find the section about your graphics card |
| 20:03.37 | Thundercloud | Make sure the driver is nvidia |
| 20:03.39 | Thundercloud | And not nv |
| 20:04.09 | Taldor | Thundercloud: 1 is ok too |
| 20:04.12 | Thundercloud | Right |
| 20:04.15 | Thundercloud | What distro? |
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| 20:04.29 | Thundercloud | Also, check the X logs to see if there's any problems that crop up |
| 20:04.36 | Taldor | Thundercloud: i'm running gentoo |
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| 20:05.02 | nanothief | Taldor: try sudo modprobe nvidia |
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| 20:05.28 | Taldor | Thundercloud: there is only one problem: "(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: (null) ((null))" |
| 20:05.28 | Thundercloud | nanothief: Not gonna help, he's already running the driver |
| 20:05.41 | Thundercloud | Taldor: That's probably nothing to do with it :P |
| 20:05.46 | nanothief | oh thats just ot make sure it is running :) |
| 20:05.51 | Thundercloud | It is :P |
| 20:05.58 | Thundercloud | By definition if he's in X then it's running |
| 20:06.20 | nanothief | or the driver wasn't found, and it loaded a backup one instead, or the nvidia was in the wrong section |
| 20:06.22 | Taldor | and yes, I'm in X/kde ;-) |
| 20:06.48 | Thundercloud | nanothief: Backups are an awful idea for graphics drivers :D |
| 20:06.55 | Half-Left | Thundercloud: Run this in the console and tell me what it prints out glxinfo | grep render |
| 20:07.01 | Half-Left | Taldor: ^ |
| 20:07.26 | Taldor | Half-Left: "bash: glxinfo: command not found" |
| 20:07.30 | Thundercloud | Lawls |
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| 20:07.41 | Half-Left | gah |
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| 20:08.08 | Half-Left | Taldor: Run nvidia settings, it should show if some info |
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| 20:09.20 | Taldor | Half-Left: what should i look for in nvidia-settings? |
| 20:09.37 | km | has anybody got problems with kbuildsycoca4? |
| 20:09.56 | Half-Left | Taldor: glx info |
| 20:10.30 | Taldor | Half-Left: "direct-rendering: yes" -> is that what you mean? |
| 20:10.56 | Half-Left | Taldor: Paste you xorg.conf at paste bin please |
| 20:11.08 | Half-Left | And paste the url here |
| 20:12.21 | Taldor | Half-Left: http://mibbit.com/pb/Bi4YcQ |
| 20:13.04 | Half-Left | Taldor: Your using SUSE? |
| 20:13.16 | Taldor | Half-Left: no, i'm using gentoo |
| 20:13.45 | rdieter | km: without details, no problems that I know of... but what does "problems with kbuildsycoca4" mean exactly? |
| 20:13.50 | Half-Left | What driver version of nvidia? |
| 20:14.18 | Taldor | Half-Left: 177.80 |
| 20:14.29 | Half-Left | Taldor: Section "Extensions", take that out, you dont need it |
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| 20:14.37 | km | rdleter: it seems to either stall in the middle or to not close at the end of the process |
| 20:14.37 | Taldor | ok |
| 20:14.42 | Half-Left | THe composte one |
| 20:14.48 | Half-Left | composite* |
| 20:15.27 | Half-Left | Taldor: Change ption "AIGLX" "false" |
| 20:15.32 | rdieter | km, wierd, never seen that. |
| 20:15.37 | Half-Left | to true |
| 20:16.23 | Half-Left | ption "AIGLX" "false" |
| 20:16.29 | Half-Left | Stupid paste |
| 20:16.34 | Taldor | Half-Left: i've read that nvidia doesn't need aiglx, as it can use something built-in |
| 20:17.17 | Half-Left | Taldor: Well really you dont need that option yer |
| 20:17.36 | Half-Left | But kwin uses AIGLX |
| 20:17.53 | Taldor | ah |
| 20:18.21 | Half-Left | It's the OpenGL part of Oxrg |
| 20:18.24 | Half-Left | Xorg* |
| 20:18.30 | km | rdleter: i am running on gentoo, using overlay to build shinning trunk, worked like a charm untill last week-end. On last update, I left the thing run for a couple of hours and finally decided to kill it. the thing is I couldn't even log in kde4 anymore because of this. So I removed kde4 completly to start fresh and now am stuck back with kde3 |
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| 20:19.13 | Taldor | ok, i'll restart X. thanks for the help so far, if i don't come back, it worked ;-) |
| 20:19.32 | Muzer | Can I get dolphin to order things in the same way that more primitive tools do (ie not ignoring spaces/hyphens/case/etc)? |
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| 20:24.20 | poopix | in kde 3.5, is there anyway to change the opacity of the panel? I don't mean enabling transparency, because then I can't use custom backgrounds for it |
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| 20:27.56 | zigovr | hi all, when I change the color scheme in kde 3.5 , apparently the panel doesn't take it in account immediatly, is there a way to force it to do that ? |
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| 20:30.33 | flower | is it possible to drag klipper to any position on the screen? |
| 20:32.11 | rdieter | flower: afaik, klipper is a (systray) applet only |
| 20:32.39 | flower | rdieter: mmh that's a pitty, it could be a useful function... |
| 20:33.04 | Muzer | Can I get dolphin to order things in the same way that more primitive tools do (ie not ignoring spaces/hyphens/case/etc)? |
| 20:33.06 | flower | gonna use knotes instead.... but klipper could be better |
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| 20:34.04 | Muzer | I find klipper's actions feature to be really unstable |
| 20:34.18 | Muzer | it always makes my computer lag, and around 25% of the time it crashes entirely |
| 20:34.26 | Half-Left | flower: KDE4.2 will have a paste plasmoid, you can put it where you want :p |
| 20:34.27 | Muzer | (klipper, not the computer) |
| 20:34.50 | Muzer | probably have an old version... |
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| 20:35.31 | Muzer | not updated apps since I first installed |
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| 20:35.37 | Muzer | I'll do that now actually, I'm bored |
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| 20:38.19 | supert0nes | how do you close the accessability icon in the systray? |
| 20:39.58 | Half-Left | Turn accessabilty off? |
| 20:40.15 | supert0nes | in system settings? |
| 20:40.36 | supert0nes | i dont even know how it came on not very accessable |
| 20:40.38 | supert0nes | j/k |
| 20:40.40 | supert0nes | had to say it |
| 20:40.54 | Half-Left | hahe |
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| 20:41.12 | supert0nes | nah nothing is checked there |
| 20:41.17 | supert0nes | if only i knew the daemon |
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| 20:42.32 | supert0nes | this is ugly maybe it is gnome |
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| 20:43.25 | supert0nes | killing gnome-settings-daemon did the trick ugh wish kde had its own distro lol |
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| 20:55.00 | boergen | Hi there, why isn't it possible to change the kdm theme in KDE4? |
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| 20:56.18 | boergen | If I run systemsettings as root (kdesu) and change it, it just doesn't change. |
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| 20:59.42 | boergen | Anybody? |
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| 21:09.25 | sjraarke | Hi all, is there a way to force a folder view to update regularly? |
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| 21:10.35 | _RedGhostBis_ | sjraarke: folder view already updates |
| 21:11.13 | sjraarke | _RedGhostBis_: When it points to a local folder it does, however, not when pointing to an nfs-mount |
| 21:11.26 | _RedGhostBis_ | sjraarke: aah |
| 21:11.46 | sjraarke | _RedGhostBis_: sorry, should have mentioned that |
| 21:12.07 | _RedGhostBis_ | sjraarke: well, it should probably be filed as wish on bugzilla, because I don't think you can make it update itself |
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| 21:17.54 | ward_ | hello anybody here that can help me with writing a plasmoid ? |
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| 21:23.25 | logixoul | hi. in kdevelop3 running in kde3 the "settings->configure editor" item is greyed out, and opening any file crashes. kwrite works fine. what can be happening? |
| 21:23.27 | kdepepo | ward_, #plasma, with luck also #kde-devel |
| 21:24.02 | ward_ | okay thx I'm checking out the plasma channel ;) |
| 21:24.04 | logixoul | (it crashes in PartController::createEditorPart) |
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| 21:26.31 | kriko | We need a krunner plugin, so you can type and search for tracks :) |
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| 21:27.22 | logixoul | Ok, exported LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kde3/lib and now it's still greyed out but it doesn't crash anymore, editing files work... |
| 21:27.27 | logixoul | works |
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| 21:36.50 | jrick | where can I find a list of all the expected new features/improvements going into KDE 4.2? |
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| 21:38.43 | gkiagia | jrick: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules |
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| 21:41.52 | gkiagia | has anybody here tried a recent radeonhd with kwin's effects? |
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| 21:48.35 | xst | Gwenview has begun resizing JPG images in extremely bad quality when exporting to a flash gallery. How can I set the compression quality for the resized JPG images? |
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| 21:56.30 | ArShAm | hi |
| 21:56.58 | ArShAm | how can I setup my multimedia keys? e.g. start/stop/next and so |
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| 22:00.03 | awosy | ArShAm: you should take a look at Xmodmap |
| 22:00.13 | ArShAm | awosy, thanks |
| 22:00.35 | awosy | most likely you should setup those manually by binding the keys to some action |
| 22:05.21 | ArShAm | how can I bind them? |
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| 22:06.45 | awosy | ArShAm: take a look at this http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Multimedia_Keys |
| 22:06.59 | ArShAm | thanks |
| 22:07.18 | Half-Left | What is is with Konqueror, it uses fonts different on the page |
| 22:07.23 | Half-Left | it* |
| 22:07.57 | Half-Left | Firefox has a different font even though they are the same font as Konqueror |
| 22:08.27 | Half-Left | Opera mimics Konqueror of course because they are both Qt4 |
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| 22:10.54 | shizlap_ | anyone know howto force the un-merging of a package even if it is still referenced by a package set ? |
| 22:16.03 | shizlap | my problem is that kde-base/libplasmaclock-4.1.71 won't emerge because of file collisions with kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.1.69 |
| 22:16.22 | shizlap | and FEATURES="-collision-protect" does not work anymore either :( |
| 22:17.15 | gkiagia | shizlap: #gentoo or #gentoo-kde please |
| 22:17.18 | luke-jr | FEATURES='-collision-protect' is always a bad idea IMO |
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| 22:17.34 | luke-jr | shizlap: emerge -C the plasma-workspace first |
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| 22:19.14 | shizlap | luke-jr: yeah, that's the first thing i tried, but portage refuses to unmerge because "it is still referenced by the following package sets: kde-4.2" |
| 22:19.20 | shizlap | i'll try in #gentoo |
| 22:20.02 | shizlap | gkiagia: sorry, i thought i was in #gentoo-kde |
| 22:20.18 | shizlap | still getting used to this new irc client :| |
| 22:21.43 | gkiagia | :) |
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| 22:23.50 | beth_ | Is there an sftp kio-slave available for kde4? |
| 22:24.04 | beth_ | I use it for uploading quanta projects to the server. |
| 22:24.09 | gkiagia | beth_: of course |
| 22:24.24 | gkiagia | both sftp and fish |
| 22:24.26 | beth_ | Is it part of kdebase? I can't seem to figure out which package it's in. |
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| 22:25.01 | beth_ | Oh. Nevermind. I can use it from konqueror. Just not quanta. |
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| 22:25.09 | beth_ | I guess that's because quanta is a kde3 app. |
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| 22:25.16 | gkiagia | yes, kdebase-runtime |
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| 22:25.53 | gkiagia | if you use sftp from quanta, you need the sftp kioslave for kde3 |
| 22:26.59 | beth_ | Okay. That might do it. |
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| 22:27.03 | beth_ | Thanks gklagia. |
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| 22:28.13 | beth_ | \quit |
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| 22:48.00 | meson10 | i checked out qt-copy and compiled it.. did a make make install... i wish to compile kdelibs but the cmake returns The installed Qt version 4.3.4 is too old, at least version 4.4.0 is required |
| 22:48.18 | meson10 | i am missing some variables being passed or an export... any help? |
| 22:50.54 | SSJ_GZ | meson10: Have you set QTDIR? |
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| 22:57.34 | meson10 | SSJ_GZ: got it workinfg... i was goofing it as export PATH=$PATH:<path_to_qt>.. it should have been the other way round |
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| 22:58.36 | boergen | Why isn't it possible to change the kdm theme in KDE4? |
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| 23:08.52 | Half-Left | boergen: It is, you can get a theming apps |
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| 23:09.29 | Half-Left | In KDE4 is supports themes |
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| 23:31.17 | driva2009 | hi. got a couple of questions relating to kde4.1.2 for you: 1st, Plasma is not storing my widgets, despite them being locked. whenever i reboot, i have to set the panel up again. how do i stop this? - 2nd, what is the command line name of the new version of kcontrol in 4.1? i ask because the spanner button has gone from the panel. thanks |
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| 23:32.52 | djouallah | any idea why kde4.2 alpha is not released yet ? |
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| 23:46.51 | impulze_ | is there any plasma stuff that shows some kind of volume bar on the screen like i've seen it in vista or xp i think |
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| 23:48.02 | lilltiger | driva2009: 1: check the rights to the .kde/share/config/plasma* files 2: unsure of the name.. but you can press alt+f2 and type "system setting" to access it |
| 23:48.32 | driva2009 | thanks lilltiger |
| 23:48.36 | driva2009 | back in a sec |
| 23:49.07 | lilltiger | impulze_: not yet I think, wait for 4.2 when the plasma python support is avaible then it will probly be a very easy thing to add |
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| 23:49.55 | driva2009 | lilltiger: perms on my plasma files are fine. thor.thor (me) / 700 (rwxr--r--) |
| 23:50.24 | dli | does kde 4.1 work with pulseaudio? |
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| 23:50.34 | somekool | Allo |
| 23:51.12 | somekool | I dont have KDE3 and kdelibs3 installed anymore. I just plugged printer for the first time. KDE3 used to have everything about adding printer. how do I add printer using KDE4 ? |
| 23:51.53 | driva2009 | dli: yes. My system is running with it switched on now, (mandriva 2009.0 / kde 4.1.2) |
| 23:52.19 | dli | driva2009, any howto? |
| 23:52.31 | driva2009 | what os, dli? |
| 23:52.37 | dli | driva2009, gentoo |
| 23:52.40 | driva2009 | and what version of kde do you have? |
| 23:52.46 | driva2009 | kde 4.1.? |
| 23:52.46 | dli | driva2009, 4.1.2 |
| 23:53.10 | driva2009 | ok. Unfortunately, I personally cannot assist you, since I have not a clue on Gentoo... |
| 23:53.20 | driva2009 | but someone else in here may be able to assist you. |
| 23:53.22 | driva2009 | :) |
| 23:53.42 | dli | driva2009, if you have mandriva howto, it would be good enough for me |
| 23:53.46 | driva2009 | i have been on mandriva since before it became mandriva, i joined at mandrake 10.1 |
| 23:54.22 | somekool | dli what is the question ? |
| 23:54.47 | driva2009 | Ok then. In the configure your computer area, we have an option under sound configuration to enable pulseaudio, and also to carry out automatic routing from alsa to pulseaudio. I enabled both of those |
| 23:55.22 | dli | somekool, just want a general howto about setting pulseaudio up |
| 23:55.26 | driva2009 | once you enable pulseaudio, use the controls from kmix or the pulseaudio volume control to operate and control your sound output |
| 23:56.07 | driva2009 | That is Mandriva only though, I cannot be held responsible for anything going paws up if you try that on a non mandriva system... :) |
| 23:57.06 | Half-Left | Better of using some other printer setup, 4.x does have atm |
| 23:57.15 | Half-Left | doesn't* |
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| 23:57.42 | somekool | dli you did not find anything on google ? |
| 23:57.46 | driva2009 | dli: btw, the sound configuration option is under hardware in the mandriva control center... it may be somewhere similar on your system if you have a GUI setup. |
| 23:58.44 | dli | somekool, perfect setup from pulseaudio.org is not detailed enough. I got like permission denied and only null-sink |
| 23:58.54 | driva2009 | lilltiger: you still there? |
| 23:59.14 | dli | somekool, also, to make skype using pulseaudio is another trouble |
| 23:59.26 | somekool | how about searching a gentoo+pulseaudio stuff |
| 23:59.27 | somekool | http://www.google.ca/search?q=gentoo+pulseaudio |
