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00:00.15junkDawgiebets ritslinux will be back soon to gloat
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00:00.54octox2N9NU: ok, im glad im not the only one. Im a 2 day old in 4.1 :)
00:01.35N9NUah...dont feel bad. i dont there there is a single soul in here that hasnt bashed their head in at least once
00:01.45octox2N9NU: what is up wit Dolphin? why? and is it better than Konq ?
00:02.15N9NUif you do a quick side by side view, they look the same eh
00:02.58octox2N9NU: it looks ok, but i cant get it to stay in detail veiw lol
00:03.18N9NUdid you adjust the options at the very bottom of the option "View settings"
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00:03.31N9NUi ment
00:03.40N9NUVIew------Adjust view settings
00:03.56N9NUor properties at the bottom
00:04.16N9NUcheck the boxes that will place the config to all others
00:04.51N9NUApply View Properties to: All Folders and then check "use default fow new folders"
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00:05.00octox2lol, well it seems to be sticking now. i may have gotten an update recently
00:05.21octox2N9NU: just delet .kde4 ?
00:05.51N9NUjust remember if you do, you will be back at the default kde 4.x screen with the default taskbar, etc
00:06.05N9NUthats the only thing that it dumps...the eye candy and menu settings
00:06.07octox2yea, i was pretty muc there still
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00:06.21N9NUi do make a backup of
00:06.33N9NU.kde4/ in case i need anything
00:06.44N9NUor to see something in the future for comparison
00:07.06N9NUyou will go back to the "oxygen" theme
00:07.17N9NUi did that about 10 times already
00:07.22octox2N9NU: wow, it recreated it imidiately lol
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00:07.32N9NUits snappy
00:08.07kdepeporitslinux, 4.1 ?
00:08.36ritslinuxHi all, I am back "in the air".......looks things have am I sure I am on 4.1 ??
00:09.00N9NUgo to any
00:09.04kdepeporitslinux, right click on desktop... it should have a "add widgets..." entry
00:09.42N9NUclick on any "help"icon at the top of any KDE app
00:09.45N9NUit will tell ya
00:09.57N9NUK Desktop Environment
00:09.58N9NUVersion 4.1.1 (KDE 4.1.1)
00:10.10kdepepoN9NU, he might running KDE 4 apps on a KDE 3 desktop...
00:10.26N9NUoh..i didnt know that
00:10.49N9NUoh yeah i almost forgot
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00:11.12N9NUits time to upload the Kcontrol for KDE 4.1.1 gui enhancement
00:11.19N9NUno more "systemsettings"
00:11.24N9NUunless you like that one better
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00:11.30ritslinuxlooks I have that......only lost my sound I noticed
00:11.39N9NUwelcome to the crowd
00:11.47kdepeporitslinux, yeah, phonon is a bit flakey still....
00:11.59ritslinuxpardon ?????
00:12.12octox2N9NU: lol, i still have no icons, but i have a folder view of the desktop with the icons in it ? ol
00:12.25N9NUoh my
00:12.49N9NUyeah...the most important thing to remember now is that Icons are no longer
00:12.57N9NUand they are "widgets"
00:13.01N9NUor plasmanoids
00:13.07ritslinuxI have to look into my "no-sound"-problem
00:13.35N9NUcheck that damn pulse audio
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00:13.42octox2well, it was the folder view plsmoid
00:13.52N9NUyeah thats the one i use
00:13.57N9NUas well as "Desktop"
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00:14.27octox2if i look at my desktop folder, i have the .desktop files there, but they dont show in plasma
00:14.44ritslinuxIs theire not a "genuine-way" to check if 4.1 is running ?
00:14.57RayyjunkDawgie: lolz, i fixed it
00:15.07Borg^Queenhey people quick questoin, as you can see there are images of fat dogs I can't remember how to turn on and off image view in konq.
00:15.14RayyjunkDawgie: or it fixed itself
00:15.22Borg^Queena friend has some how managed to turn if off and can't see the images. Anyone remember how to turn it back on?
00:15.33kdepeporitslinux, did you upgrade from 4.0 or from 3.5 ?
00:15.37N9NUYou should be able to see KDE 4.1.1 at the top of Xchat or Konversation
00:15.49N9NUgoto Help---about KDE
00:15.58N9NUfrom a terminal or whatever app
00:16.03kdepepoKonversation is KDE 3 :)
00:16.04ritslinuxNo, from 4.0 to 4.1
00:16.23N9NUoh yeah...crap i just noticed that
00:16.33N9NUchoose a Konsole session
00:16.50kdepeporitslinux, then it's enough to check the version number in the "About KDE..." dialog (Help menu of Dolphin)
00:16.55N9NUi forgot that Konvo isnt updated yet
00:17.36N9NUyou can always to the rpm -q
00:17.41N9NUto check any package
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00:18.04kdepepoN9NU, where can I get you KControl port?
00:18.18N9NUim just about to upload it to kde-apps
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00:18.41N9NUat the moment, its only in source and 64 bit Mandriva cooker RPM
00:18.49N9NUvia QT 4
00:19.11kdepepourl of the source?
00:19.19kdepepoplease :)
00:19.31N9NUhang on about 5 mins.......
00:19.46N9NUi have not logged into kde-apps in awhile
00:19.53N9NUmust find the ol password
00:20.02kdepepoI am fine with source RPM for mandriva... I can recompile.
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00:20.27N9NUi just made the first cause i run cooker 64 is all
00:20.38ritslinuxkdepepo: It says: version 4.1.2 (kde 4.1.1 (kde 4.1>=20080828)release 32.3)
00:20.43N9NUlemme open my spreadsheet
00:20.44jescisHello, I'm using Debian with KDE and was wondering if there was a flash plugin for konqueror. Also why my scroll wheel on my mouse can't be configured properly:/
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00:20.58N9NUwhoa! 4.1.2
00:21.01N9NUyour smokin
00:21.12kdepepoan updated 4.1.1
00:21.32N9NUflash plugin = yes
00:21.38N9NUhang on
00:22.08octox24.1 seems a little buggy, but i love it
00:22.31N9NUi used the file: swcflash or something like it
00:22.36N9NUi get the exact name here
00:23.18N9NUfor 64 bit
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00:23.44jescisI'm on 32-bit :(
00:23.55N9NUthen you have no worries
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00:24.19N9NUthe konqplugins package handles that
00:24.38caelkonqueror processes don't really terminate when I close them. I got > 30 dead processes ... any hints how to solve this?
00:24.48N9NUoh my
00:25.19N9NUits easiest to log out and back in
00:25.41ritslinuxSysinfo on openSUSE11.0 tells me: KDE:  4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.1 (KDE 4.1 >= 20080828)) "release 32.3"
00:25.43N9NUAdobe is almost done with their 64 bit flash port for Linux
00:25.59N9NUthen your indeed running 4.1.1
00:26.30N9NUits just that you grabbed the SVN code
00:26.35N9NUor nightly build
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00:27.03kdepepoNope, the SVN code is at 4.1.65 already ;)
00:27.07ritslinuxkdepepo: your still theire ?
00:27.13N9NUwhich will always be +
00:27.32N9NUit dont matter
00:27.34N9NUyour fine
00:28.06kdepepoN9NU, now upload your source, I am eager to try it :)
00:28.39N9NUok hang on
00:28.59ritslinuxI am hanging.......
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00:29.36jescisBut I really came here because my need for my scroll wheel to work like it's supposed to. If only FF wasn't non-free :(
00:29.55N9NUinstall "imwheel"
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00:32.52jescisN9NU, must I logout and then back in or what?
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00:33.37ritslinuxOkay...i am leaving to restart kde (for sound-checking that is...)
00:34.19octox2N9NU: i can go to my desktop folder, and drag them all onto plasma, and it shows them, and does not create another set of .desktop files     from what i cansee
00:34.42N9NUthats kewl
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00:34.50N9NUim re-registering with kde=apps
00:35.00N9NUits been 4 years since a login
00:35.05N9NUand my info isnt there
00:36.28octox2N9NU: in fact, if i drag new icons to the desktop, they dont show up in my Desktop folder either. sooooo ther must be another folder for plasma somewhere to choose what is shown on the desktop ?
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00:36.38N9NUyeah...there is
00:36.45N9NUi still havent found it
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00:39.18N9NUwhere is my email confirmation!
00:43.41ritslinuxOkay...I am back...sound is working (tested it with a mp3-file), but in kde 4.0 I had a "poingd" when I started kde4.0...but no "poingd" in 4.1 should I dive into this ??
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00:44.06N9NUi always disable Pulse
00:44.08N9NUwithin KDE
00:44.26N9NUthen i got my SB Audigy to work
00:46.26junkDawgieritslinux: are you meaning the login jingle is missing?
00:48.00junkDawgieokay that happened to me too... check in systemsettings "Sound" and see what engine you are running... i'm betting it's using gstreamer
00:48.41junkDawgieer.. as the backend engine.... the second tab
00:48.58ritslinuxIt is no issue if mp3's are working......
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00:50.06junkDawgieamarok worked for me too... but the system jingle is an ogg sound and gstreamer choked on it.... i switched the prefered engine to Xine and rebooted... bingo
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00:50.41ritslinuxI do not need any "boings" when I start KDE, only I want sound if it is needed...
00:50.43N9NUwith most, gstreamer is the default with no clickable buttons to change it
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00:52.09Jucatohm... unless KDE has drastically changed for the past 6 months, Xine is the default backend for Phonon
00:52.23N9NUim still usin ALSA
00:52.34N9NUis Phonom a program or a
00:52.35Jucatoand I don't think distros have changed that either (at least not from what I've seen)
00:52.46jlydickhey all, i've just made an upgrade to kde4.1 and i've got a quick question i couldn't figure out: when you switch desktops, can you configure it to not animate this?  i have alot of effects turned on but i can't figure out where to turn that off.
00:52.53N9NUi mean the ones that come with KDE
00:53.20Jucatojlydick: that sort of comes built in
00:53.52jlydickby 'built-in' i take it you mean that's the only way it comes? :)
00:54.06jlydicki use darwin at work and i'm used to spaces i guess
00:54.23jlydicki'm having some sluggishness with my nvidia card so was just wondering if i could drop it
00:54.29jlydick(the animation)
00:54.38N9NUoh... i see what he is sayin
00:54.42jlydickthanks for answering, though.
00:54.50JucatoN9NU: ALSA and Phonon are not analogous. Phonon is an API layer. It's not a program (in the regular sense of the word), nor is it a backend.
00:54.55N9NUsure...all that can be disabled via the "systemsettings"
00:55.02ritslinuxboys.....4.1 runs on my openSUSE 11.0 and thats the main issue.......soundproblems are "minor" to me :)
00:55.17N9NUunder Window decoration and window this and window that
00:55.18junkDawgiei can only tell ya what happened to me and opensuse 11... the upgrade from 4.04 (xine) to 4.1 ended up using gstreamer.... i figure it was the packager
00:55.48N9NUshould i un=install gstreamer and install something else?
00:56.12junkDawgiei have both installed and used xine as the perfered engine
00:56.17Jucato*shrugs* wonder..i didnt hve xine installed
00:56.47junkDawgieyou probably do... just not the xine-phonon package
00:57.31N9NUyeah i had phonom-gstreamer
00:57.38N9NUi miss the old days
00:57.39junkDawgiesorry Jucato.. you know much more about this than i.... i just related my solution to the problem
00:58.09N9NUyou can disable all the window decoration (animations) etc, from the systemsettings
00:58.17Jucatodidn't say anything to contradict what junkDawgie said
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00:58.47junkDawgie:) no, i was merely defering to your judgement
00:58.52ritslinuxIf you don't mind......I come back later about is 3 o-clock over here at BYE
00:58.54junkDawgie< dumb
00:58.59N9NUits under "Configure desktop effects"
00:59.02jlydickN9NU: you happen to know exactly where?  i spent an hour or so digging through for desktop flipping animations and can't find them.
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00:59.10N9NUthen choose or unchoose Various animations
00:59.23JucatoN9NU: you can't disable that particular effect
00:59.40jlydickyeah i have 'various animations' unselected and it still does it.
00:59.43N9NUoh i didnt realize you wanted to loose just one of them
00:59.44Jucatoif you enable desktop effects, you get that switching animation
00:59.45N9NUwhich one?
00:59.51N9NUoh ok
01:00.02jlydickthe one when you change desktops, it slides the windows across desktops
01:00.25jlydickguess i'll take what i can get then :P
01:00.33N9NUok...i know what ya men
01:00.47jlydicki like alot of the effects.  this is my first experience with kde since 3.2 and it's pretty snazzy.
01:00.48N9NUyour referring to the login manager?
01:00.56N9NUwhen switching?
01:01.03Jucatoswitching virtual desktops
01:01.03jlydickno no, virtual desktops under kde
01:01.07JucatoCtrl+F1 to F4
01:01.33N9NUnow i got ya
01:01.51N9NUim sure it can be, but that is not a switchable option ....
01:01.59N9NUwithout modding the software
01:02.06N9NUwhich would be easy
01:02.10jlydickyeah, that's what it seems.
01:02.19Jucato"easy"... riiiight...
01:02.31N9NUif ya like to program that is
01:03.04jlydickkde4 was horrid when i first installed kubuntu a couple days ago, i almost dropped it until i found some updated nvidia drivers
01:03.13jlydicki guess there's all sorts of issues with them.
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01:03.37N9NUi have a nvidia quadro nvs 395 and find it works awesome with opengl
01:03.46N9NUi got it for 10 bux at a hamfest
01:03.52N9NUpci e and all
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01:04.43jlydicki just spent $200 on an 8800gts and was very disappointed, hehe
01:05.08N9NUim trying to sell both of my 8800 GTX cards for only $350, but no takers anywhere
01:05.09jlydickthe newest drivers from a couple weeks ago are an improvement but they have a ways to go before kde4 feels like os x or vista
01:05.27N9NUi use the Autocad certified linux 64 drives
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01:05.53N9NUyou should have no probs at all with any 8000 series card
01:06.11jlydicki can confirm that is not the case, unfortunately :)
01:06.19N9NUbeware: compiz (if your using it) is still buggy/laggy with nv
01:07.03jlydicki have actually not tried compiz at all.  kwin seems pretty solid besides the performance.
01:07.23N9NUyou might also want to try this trick
01:07.56N9NUselect Xrender vs OpenGL in the systemsettings under Desktop settings
01:08.21N9NUyou can check Direct rendering below that
01:08.28N9NUswap options and see how it does
01:08.48jlydicki saw those yesterday, i'll have to play around more in those options.
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01:09.13jlydicki just got done installing the 177.70 beta drivers and i'm a little euphoric because kde4 is 'usable' for the first time for me, heh
01:09.43N9NUoh the 177.67 ones?
01:09.50N9NUor are there new .70 ones
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01:10.19jlydickthey are up to .70 now.  i read that you want to be running at least .68, and do the nvidia-settings tweaks for best performance.
01:10.40jlydicki was running the stock ubuntu driver before that and the new ones are like night and day.
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01:11.39N9NUare the .70 ones on nv's site?
01:11.43N9NUor 3rd party
01:12.10jlydickthey are from nvidi'a site.  but since they're beta only you probably have to find a link from a 3rd party.  i can get you one if you need it.
01:12.43N9NUgo here and forever bookmark this site:
01:13.01N9NUyou wont find anything but 64 bit happieness for linux and doze
01:13.40N9NU177.89 Downloads, Available 13 August 2008
01:13.43jlydicki'm actually running 32-bit linux at the moment :)
01:13.51jlydickthat version is for windows, iirc
01:13.55N9NUah ok
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01:17.16kdepepophoronix is the best site to get news about Linux Hardware/Drivers
01:17.29jlydickyeah, that's where i found a lot of help.
01:17.42jlydickand nvnews was useful (for nvidia, obviously).
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01:18.28N9NU15% faster JPEG decoding on Windows x64 with IJG's JPEG library
01:18.34N9NUright from the horses mouth
01:18.40N9NUoh man
01:18.43N9NUmy bad
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01:21.36ewomerare kdm themes from 3.5 compatible with kdm 4.1
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01:22.15N9NUyou have 4.1?
01:22.40ewomerbut the theme is from 2006
01:22.52ewomerso it might be older then 3.5
01:23.06N9NUis it able to be compiled?
01:23.08ewomerthe name of it is puldsar
01:23.11N9NUor is it pre-built
01:23.35zcedoes anyone knows an easy way (to use, not necessarily to configure) to share calendar information, for example, korganizer calendars? maybe even kontact's contacts.. i read that groupware servers can do it, any recommendation?
01:23.43ewomerum its a couple of xml files and image files
01:24.35N9NUyou might have a prob with the xml files
01:24.45N9NUcan you link it to me?
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01:25.43N9NUhng on
01:25.48ewomerit says install via kcm but i guess kcm has been intergrated into systemsettings
01:26.14N9NUyou can run "Kcontrol" as well in kde 4.1
01:26.30N9NUbut it is for KDE 3.5.x
01:27.08N9NUi wil let ya know in 1 minute
01:28.51N9NUit can me with a bit of modding
01:28.57ewomerbash: kcontrol: command not found
01:29.24Jucatosystemsettings in KDE 4
01:29.48ewomeryah i have to run it as sudo systemsettings
01:29.49N9NUyeah..some might not have KDE 3.5.10 installed as well as 4.1
01:30.16ewomeri removed kde 4.0 aka 3.5.10
01:30.46N9NUim waiting for a confirmation email so i can upload Kcontrol for 4.1.1 to
01:31.05ewomerwhat exactilly is kcontrol
01:31.10N9NUi re-configured it so you can use Kcontrol rather than Systemsettings while in 4.1
01:31.19ewomerok kool
01:31.24N9NUthast the KDE 3.x systemsettings panel
01:31.33N9NUit just looks nicer i think
01:31.35octox2N9NU: I downloaded a file to my desktop, and it didnt show up, but it is in my desktop folder. therre is something wrong with plasma
01:31.48ewomerim in gentoo using the kdesvn-overlay
01:32.01N9NUwell...plasma is a state of matter between liquid and gas
01:32.08N9NUso  id expect it to be long gone
01:32.12octox2does anyone know how to get plasma to show the contents of the desktop folder, my plasma rashed and now i cant get it to show
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01:32.51ewomerthe only way i know is with the folder widget but its slow
01:33.08N9NUby manually placing that KDM theme in the right place, it can be used
01:33.39N9NUdo you have the widget:
01:33.44ewomeri have it placed
01:33.52N9NUQuick access
01:34.17ewomeru talkin to me
01:34.19N9NUyeah...add the widget
01:34.45ewomerwhere do i get Quick access
01:34.57N9NUi give it to ya
01:35.25N9NUhang on
01:35.27N9NUi will get it
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01:35.32N9NUor tell ya where
01:35.55ewomerwhere is better i have xchat
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01:38.20N9NUfoudn it
01:38.35N9NU32 or 64 bit
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01:40.56N9NUoops...what distro you using
01:41.09N9NUyeah you can get it from there too
01:41.10ewomeri can do the source
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01:45.07N9NUanyone need the KDE 4.11 syle "Skulpture"
01:45.12N9NUsomeone was asking for that the other day
01:45.55luke-jrthere is no 4.11 afaik
01:46.14gr1m-lapN9NU: is this style not widely available?
01:46.34N9NUsomeone was looking, so i just offered
01:46.38N9NUit was for kde 3.5
01:46.46N9NUvia the name "sculpture"
01:47.10gr1m-lapmaybe you should upload it to kde-look if there is no other public download site?
01:47.24N9NUlemme go there
01:47.24ewomerlol N9NU hsa his own branch
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01:47.58gr1m-lapI don't know what this style looks like, but if there's a kde4 port and no public download site uploading it to would be nice
01:47.59N9NUits there i see
01:48.17N9NUbut i will link to the 64 bit rpm
01:48.30gr1m-lapnice :)
01:48.41N9NUwell...he aleady did it for e
01:48.53N9NUMandriva download(Mandriva 2009 development branch)
01:48.55N9NUhow nice
01:49.09N9NUall distros are there
01:49.12gr1m-lapyou will now be a contributor in your own small way if you are not already :)
01:49.36N9NUif i get my email from, i can upload the Kcontrol for 4.1
01:49.43N9NUi have not gotten it yet
01:49.57N9NUits been 4 years since I have logged in and my info is no longer there
01:50.04JucatoN9NU: I hope you didn't name executable "Kcontrol" too
01:50.33N9NUthats their own
01:50.56N9NUhow bout "kay-kontrol"
01:51.12ewomeri wish i could gent kdesu kdesudo working right with dolphin
01:51.56N9NUyou cant access dolphin as root?
01:52.03Jucato`kde4-config --path libexec`/kdesu dolphin
01:53.20ewomerN9NU, the quickaccess widget is a little dot
01:53.37N9NUdrag it down
01:53.55N9NUand widen it via the window (which you cant see at the moment)
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01:54.07N9NUdrag via the side bar above the X
01:54.15ewomerits kool
01:54.16kdepepoN9NU, only kubuntu packages are missing, I ve yet to find someone who can create ubuntu debs
01:54.57jomurob¿alguien habla español?
01:55.04N9NUthat is one distro i never tried
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01:57.28N9NUit just bumped me out of kwin
01:57.39N9NUit didnt like my 1920 x 1280
01:57.52Jucatokdepepo: wasn't nixternal interested in skulpture? can't you poke him to do that for ya? :)
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01:59.32kdepepoJucato, maybe :) didnt know he runs kubuntu, thanks
02:00.02Jucatoyou didn't know? *gasp*
02:01.05kdepepoerm, should I? is he jonathan riddel? ;)
02:02.32Jucatohe might as well be the next Riddell :)
02:02.34kenamijomurob: este canal es solo en español
02:02.53kenamiposiblemente en #kde-es
02:04.07JucatoEnglish only in here
02:10.48kenamibye !
02:10.54kenamihave a nice day!
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02:31.20ewomerfuzzy clock
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02:38.56ewomerwhat is karamba
02:39.43Jucatothe "predecessor" of superkaramba, desktop applets
02:41.02ewomeris this one karamba or super karamba
02:41.55Jucatodoesn't really matter. karamba/superkaramba are practically the same
02:42.50ewomerok good i like the wifi par of that plasmoid
02:43.00luke-jrand obsolete iirc
02:43.32ewomerif i loose my gui (not often) i run iirc
02:44.20Jucatoluke-jr: which is obsolete?
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02:46.36luke-jrJucato: both?
02:46.42ewomerso i have to run superkaramba
02:46.48luke-jrdidn't plasma replace it?
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02:47.15Jucatoluke-jr: no
02:47.25ewomerhow can it be a plasmoid if its a superkaramba widget
02:47.34Jucatosuperkaramba is ported to KDE 4 and plasma can load superkaramba applets
02:47.53Jucato(or at least that's planned)
02:48.01luke-jrscratches his head
02:48.02ewomerbut no proved
02:48.15luke-jris plasma can load superkaramba applets, what need is there for superkaramba?
02:48.35Jucatosuperkaramba has a different style of doing widgets.
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02:48.55JucatoAdd Widgets -> Install new widgets -> Install from File -> SuperKaramba
02:49.05Jucatonot sure if it's working already, but it's there
02:49.31Jucatoluke-jr: leave it to the plasma and superkaramba people to worry about that
02:49.41Jucatothe fact remains that they're both there
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02:52.28ewomercant find them after install
02:52.52Jucato<Jucato> not sure if it's working already, but it's there <---
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05:10.33dudemancould you guys have been anymore cruel?
05:10.47dudemandamn, freakin killin' me man.
05:11.15dudemanKDE_Glass_Break.ogg <-- nastiest, ugliest fscking sound I've ever heard
05:11.27dudemanfreaking literally makes me jump everytie on a new kde install
05:11.36dudemangood god holy googly moogly guys!
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05:12.05dudemangeez that sound is horrible I have nightmares about it!
05:12.36dudemannah its alright
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05:46.31RellinKopete-KDE4 crashes when I type to someone else on AIM.  How do I fix this problem or see the error?
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05:49.14RellinI've tried launching kopete in the konsole, but it just says "crashing" and locks up.  It might have to do with the dictionary, though, as it only seems to happen when certain words are incompletely typed.
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06:14.35RellinKopete-KDE4 crashes when I type to someone else on AIM.  How do I fix this problem or see the error?
06:14.38RellinI've tried launching kopete in the konsole, but it just says "crashing" and locks up.  It might have to do with the dictionary, though, as it only seems to happen when certain words are incompletely typed.
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06:17.05BilleRellin: do you have the wavy text underline on misspelled words?
06:18.07BilleRellin: the right thing to do is to paste a backtrace, so i can diagnose it.  but i can tell you now that zackr's new wavy underlining exposed a Qt bug, i'm not sure if it has been fixed yet, that causes a crash on correcting misspelled words.
06:19.48Rellinbille: yes.  I do
06:20.06Rellinbille: how do I post a backtrace?
06:20.25RellinThis is what my konsole looked like when it crashed.
06:20.26BilleRellin: expand the kde crash dialog
06:20.30RellinEnchant dict for "en_US" 0x8a1a618
06:20.30RellinKCrash: Application 'kopete' crashing...
06:20.40RellinThere was no dialogue, it just disappeared completely.
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06:21.44BilleRellin: i'm pretty sure you have that bug.  you can right click on the text entry field to disable spell checking.  to get a backtrace at the console, do "gdb --args kopete --nofork" then "run" when it's loaded all the libs then "bt" when kopete crashes
06:23.26RellinBille: Ok, done.  Thanks for the help.  Here it is.
06:23.30Rellin#0  0xb67f5e0b in ?? () from /usr/lib/
06:23.31Rellin#1  0xb67d4108 in QPainterPath::arcTo () from /usr/lib/
06:23.31Rellin#2  0x4004cccc in ?? ()
06:23.37Jucatodon't paste in here
06:24.14BilleRellin: that's the one.
06:24.26RellinBille: Ok, so is there a fix?
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06:26.11Ferrenrockhey guys, how do I change the icon image for the application launcher widget?
06:26.17Ferrenrockfor some reason it's an arrow
06:26.25Ferrenrocklike the back button on konqueror
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06:37.57willgregHello all, Iḿ a newbie to Ubuntu and KDE.  I think I want to keep both KDE and Gnome... But can anyone point me to a good guide as to how to keep both of them healthy?
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06:39.52Jucatowillgreg: you might want to ask in #kubuntu or #ubuntu about that
06:40.21willgregOh , thanks jucato,
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07:01.29Lankenwhat is the recommended tool for renaming mp3s?
07:01.36Lankentag-based renaming, I mean
07:02.10Jucatoamarok or juk
07:02.27LankenJucato: ah, I looked in amarok, must have missed it.
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07:03.54JucatoLanken: when you right-click on an item, Edit track information or something like that, you are show an editor with a Tags tab
07:04.35LankenJucato: oh, I must have been a bit un-clear.  I meant mass-file-renaming. changing the name the filesystem sees, not changing the tags.
07:05.25LankenJucato: right.  renaming the files based on the content of the tags.  it's ambiguous I guess.
07:05.45Qu4ZYou mean changing filenames based on id3 tags?
07:05.57Qu4ZTry amarok?
07:06.08Qu4ZOh, you're in amarok ^^;
07:06.10LankenQu4Z: where in amarok is this functionality?
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07:06.20Qu4ZGive me a sec. I'll find it ^^;
07:06.21LankenQu4Z: yeah, I would have expected to find it under "tools"
07:06.33Qu4ZThat would be the sensible place :P
07:07.05Lanken(I just got a cheap, crappy mp3-player that displays filenames.)
07:07.05Qu4ZIt's under Right click->Manage Files->Organise Files... or something
07:07.32Qu4ZI seem to have frozen up the entirety of amarok by ctrl+a,right-click, so I can't tell you for sure :/
07:07.47Qu4ZAh, it's back. I should really switch to a real db at some point.
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07:09.14Lankenyou got it right.  Thanks for the help!
07:09.16Qu4ZYeah, right click, manage files, organise files. Then go Details >> to be able to customise the file naming scheme.
07:09.34Qu4ZWelcome ^^ It's what I'm here for :P
07:10.12Qu4ZAnd Jucato, sorry for stealing your support case >_<
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07:10.44Jucatobarely organizes his music... just plays them over and over and over and over...
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08:31.21Smokey1Hey people. Where does Kontact store addresses. WHen I delete them and restart Kontact, they keep coming back. I am running Ubuntu with Kde 3.5.
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08:50.18caelI've got a problem: my konqueror processes don't don't quit when I close konqueror. This is quite annoying on a laptop where I hibernate a lot ... yesterday I had 30 dead konqueror processes running. Any idea how to solve this?
08:51.54jazkakillall konqueror :)
08:52.06bushwakkohey, there is a right click menu animation in kde4 that I need to turn off
08:52.19bushwakkothe right click menu "scrolls" out, and its butt ugly
08:52.31blauzahl-laptop_cael: known bug.
08:53.02caelblauzahl-laptop_: how do I solve this? It's quite a major bug ... there should be a bugfix or even a backport of a bugfix
08:53.45caelyesterday konqueror allocated about 1gb ram :-(
08:53.53blauzahl-laptop_cael: "konqueror processes never teminate" is the name of the bug report in bz, i believe. i said it was known, not that it was fixed yet. ;)
08:55.03blauzahl-laptop_well, the reports keep coming in.
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08:56.36caelAh I see that it's been fixed in trunk ... I'll try to backport it to my 4.1.1 copy here
08:56.47bushwakkoargh, I remember turning on that "animate right click menu" thing earlier
08:56.51bushwakkobut I cannot for the life of me find it
08:57.02bushwakkoit might have disappeared from 4.0 to 4.1, but still be on
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09:12.58QuAZAny way I can get konqueror to open index.html.gz transparently?
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09:52.42mrxmikewho'd is should complain to? ;)
09:53.17Jucato(please search first if it has been filed already though)
09:53.56mrxmikei wasnt sure if its part of KDE
09:54.10Jucatowell, what version of Dolphin?
09:54.27Jucatothe KDE 3 version of Dolphin is not officially part of KDE and is practically dead
09:54.47mrxmikeim talking 4.1.1
09:55.24mrxmikeif you click fast on the 'details' 'columns' view buttons
09:55.26Jucatoyep, definitely part of KDE. it's the official and default file manager of KDE 4
09:55.42mrxmikeand then on preview (and then maybe on 'details' 'colums' again)
09:55.46mrxmikedolphin segfaults
09:56.07mrxmikei had to do some stuff quickly.. then noticed it
09:56.19mrxmikewhen ur in a hurry, you click a bit faster sometimes huh ;)
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09:57.40mrxmikeJucato: can you replicate it?
09:58.05mrxmiketried it?
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10:12.03rubikcubecongrats to KDE for this :)
10:12.27mrxmikewhat is that?
10:12.45mrxmikethat 27km long tunnel?
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10:13.30rubikcubeyes, seems they code their ui with kde at the LHC
10:13.44annmawow, really?
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10:14.48mrxmikeat least its not windows........
10:15.09mrxmikeimagine .. instead of a segfault a BlackHoleOfDeath
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10:18.05rubikcubeget a new kcrashmanager image :)
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10:24.50lilltigerAtlast is just one of the stations on the LHC
10:25.35lilltigerbu it's nice that a project with "unlimited" founds is using free software :)
10:26.23tuxicklilltiger: that's probably why their crappy website runs windows
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10:27.52QuAZlilltiger: You may be misunderstanding the "free" in "free software"
10:27.58QuAZFree as in freedom, not beer ;)
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10:28.29QuAZAs such, their funds have little bearing on this case, your honor.
10:28.38mrxmikecould anyone please try to replicate a bug for me in dolphin?
10:28.50mrxmike..if you click fast on the 'details' 'columns' view buttons
10:29.00mrxmikeand then on preview (and then maybe on 'details' 'colums' again)
10:29.03QuAZNo KDE4, sorry :/
10:29.11mrxmike(while you're in a directory with jpg or png images)
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10:29.36mrxmikedolphin should segfaults
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10:29.52QuAZWhich is to say, it shouldn't, but does on your system :P
10:30.06mrxmikeof course
10:31.10mrxmikeanyone else?
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10:41.49Che-AnarcAnyone here using ati-drivers or on an ati graphics card?...  I'm having problems with video playback its not 100% smooth.
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10:58.01_Menda_today it's the end of the world! lhc
10:58.37Half-LeftKDE is still here
10:58.37Che-Anarcthinks its just the begining of the end.
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11:00.18testiUnlike MSN Messenger, kopete doesn't display emoticons, that are not space separated, though I chat over the MSN network, where it should adapt the setting. How can I correct this?
11:01.02testiI found it
11:01.26Che-Anarctesti:   does it do video/audio and such?
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11:02.12testivideo audio emoticons? no, normal ones.
11:02.29Che-Anarctesti:   no I mean video / audio chat.
11:02.35Half-LeftAnd custom ones, i.e animated
11:02.37Che-Anarctesti:   like amsn
11:04.18testiI once tried video chat with kopete, but it didn't work. I have to switch to amsn in that case.
11:05.50testiBut the UI of amsn has delayed response times sometimes, it's just slow
11:05.58Che-Anarctesti:   yeah its a bit of a headache setting it up... I got voice to work but couldnt really initiate anything with anyone for voice (msn clients that is).... I think video is a little easier.
11:07.30testiI don't know what I need to set up - I click on send camera and it just doesn't do anything, maybe kopete is too stupid for NAT traversal
11:08.21Che-AnarcWell in my instance I'm in DMZ so most of that stuff shouldnt matter... but with amsn it uses rock for some or something.
11:08.34Che-Anarcfor sound*
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11:23.05Che-AnarcAny1 want to play Atlantik  :-p
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11:26.16Che-AnarcDoes anyone know how I can do extended unicode type characters?  like in windows   alt+numeric value.
11:27.23TheoryChe-Anarc: try <press right alt> a ' <release right alt>
11:27.28Theoryand see what it gives you
11:27.47Theory(this may or may not work, depending on how your X is set up)
11:28.07drantinrequires something called the Compose key set up, right?
11:28.41thiagoChe-Anarc: Alt+numeric value is not supported in KDE
11:28.44thiagouse another option:
11:28.48thiago1) kcharselect
11:28.56thiago2) different keyboard layout (with deadkeys)
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11:29.13thiago2) ISO-9995-3 alternate keyboard layout (the AltGr key)
11:29.16thiagothat was 3
11:29.20thiago4) the Compose key
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11:32.04Half-LeftUgh, I dont know why Qt-recordmydesktop is so slow with the nv driver
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11:42.11Chrysaliswhats the thing called that saves the state on logout (runnnig programs etc)
11:43.00MinceRsession manager
11:43.39Chrysalisthanks, is there a way to do save it without restarting
11:44.29JucatoChrysalis: KDE 4? "qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer saveCurrentSession"
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11:45.28Chrysalisits not working right and starting like 3 instances of akregator... hoping to atleast fix that with this
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11:51.07MinceRChrysalis: dunno, perhaps the K menu has some items to do so; perhaps they need to be enabled in the panel config
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11:56.20Chrysalisdeleting ksmserverrc fixed it i think, guess it was corrupt or something
11:58.32Jucatosessions are saved in ~/.kde/share/config/sessions/ (or ~/.kde4)
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12:18.19Chrysaliswell, its still not saving so i turened it off and used the command you have me to save what i want
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12:30.15QuAZJust out of curiousity, does Konqueror default to auto-completing the urls you've been to the least, because it assumes you remember the rest, or what? :/
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12:31.54Half-Leftit doesn't auto complete in 4.1, just shows whats in your history
12:32.24QuAZWell, whatever. The drop down menu. I swear it chooses sites I went to once 6 months ago over regular things >_<
12:32.25Chrysalisjust shows them alphabetically i think
12:32.31QuAZAh, okay.
12:32.52QuAZI guess there's more that I haven't been to recently/visit lots, so it's a higher likelyhood of choosing one of those.
12:32.57QuAZPossibly confirmation bias, also.
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12:33.01QuAZIt seems to find /. just fine...
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12:36.06Chrysalisactually, its not alphabetical, seems like its just pulls them by the order they were added i guess ;/
12:36.49QuAZ... I see.
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14:36.20|Kiichan|Windam|im having this oddball problem with the desktop picker (kpager?) thats in the taskbar.
14:36.26rpagwhere can i find the "keep windows on top" option?
14:36.36|Kiichan|Windam|i cant figure out how to bring them back down to normal size../
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14:45.31gkiagiarpag: right click on the window title -> advanced -> keep above others
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14:48.07rpagthanks gkiagia :D
14:48.37veritas_does anyone know how much compile speed differs if i use a 64-bit OS as opposed to a 32-bit OS?
14:49.12pinotreeveritas_: ##linux please
14:49.21mereandorhi there! I have a problem with kde-4.1.1 (gentoo inofficial): When accessing a certain webpage the konqueror window just closes itself (no crash) and I don't see why it should. When I activate javascript-errors it displays a lot messages like "stack overflow". What can I do to debug this?
14:50.48gkiagiamereandor: it probably crashes but silently, because the stack is full. run from a terminal to verify that...
14:52.48mereandorgkiagia: I'll test that out...
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14:54.18mereandoryou were right - now it writes "Segmentation fault" to the terminal
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14:55.48mereandorgkiagia: ping?
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14:55.52gkiagiamereandor: correct, it's probably an infinite loop that causes the stack to overflow. I have seen this bug too...
14:56.55gkiagiamereandor: let me guess.. the site is at ? right
14:57.31sandsmarkderstandard is the standard for finding crash bugs in konqueror =p
14:57.34mereandorseems to be some broken ad...
14:58.20gkiagiayeah, this site is THE crashy site
14:58.42mereandornice to know ;)
14:58.48hyper_chwhat's the "opposite" of a primary partition? Is it logical or extended? I keep confusing those two
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14:59.17hyper_chsandsmark: you can only have 4 primaries
14:59.37hyper_chso you can circumvent that by creating a logical one instead and inside it multiple extended?
14:59.41hyper_chor is it vice-versa?
14:59.50sandsmarkbah, dos style partition tables suck =)
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15:00.47gkiagiahyper_ch: vice versa, an extended is a primary partition that holds logicals
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15:07.54feindbildhello :)
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15:09.53feindbildI've installed kde-4.1, removed it and reinstalled kde-3.5. now when I insert an usb-drive it doesn't appear under media:/ anymore. I also have the same problem on my laptop after the same procedure :( any ideas how to fix this?
15:10.15annmadid you ask your distro?
15:10.36annmathe 2 versions of KDE are separated and can run side by side feindbild
15:11.25feindbildannma: not a distri problem, and I didn't run them side-by-side, they used the same KDEHOME
15:12.00feindbildannma: what I meant to say is: i compiled it myself, so no distri problem
15:12.01annmawhat distro then???
15:12.16annmaI also build KDE but not on the same place
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15:13.50feindbildannma: any idea what config files could be affecting this? obviously not the global hal/dbus configs, they were left untouched ...
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15:13.50dunk_k7somebody have kde4 with EM64T
15:13.51annmanot sure how you built your kde then
15:13.59annmafeindbild: maybe you built wrong
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15:16.36feindbildannma: no ... it's no build problem ... like I said, I uninstalled kde4 again, and reinstalled the kde3 distri packages ... so it can only be a config in ~/.kde that has been altered by kde4 and now causes theese problems with kde3 ...
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15:18.42feindbilda pal is having the same problem by the way, on a different distri with distri packages ...
15:19.33annmawhat distros?
15:19.36feindbildyes ...
15:19.53feindbildI have slackware, he's got Kubuntu ...
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15:23.36annmaon KUbuntu surely you can have both kde3 and 4 side by side
15:23.53annmano need to uninstall one in order to get the other
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15:24.34feindbildannma: somehow he still had a shared ~/.kde, no idea ...
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15:24.45annmareally weird
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15:25.28annmadid you try a brand new user then?
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15:28.58KR-dataanyone who knows either a way to make kopete show different chats in tabs or a good client that does, which I can use to Google Talk?
15:31.34JucatoKR-data: Settings -> Configure Kopete -> Behavior -> Chat tab -> Chat Window Grouping Policy?
15:32.41KR-dataJucato, thanks. Why doesn't it do that by default?
15:33.13Jucatodon't know. different people have different preferences, so they probably chose a default that is.. um.. default :)
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15:34.20KR-databut the trend is towards tabs (and with good reason if you ask me), using a window per task is impractical and... well old fashioned
15:35.20annmafeindbild: does it work with a new user?
15:37.13feindbildannma: I'll try right now ... had to wait for avnadmin load to complete ...
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16:01.06feindbildannma: it works with a new user ...
16:02.12feindbildah well ... I'll just mv my ~/.kde and start from scratch ... my own fault, there was a big red blinking warning not to use the same ~/.de :(
16:02.25feindbild* ~/.kde
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16:02.36feindbildbye :)
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16:05.06boldiican anybody tell me if I can print with KDE4 somehow only the odd and then the even numbers of pages?
16:05.06Russel-Athletici have a little problem: kded seems to eat up much cpu, what could be the problem?
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16:10.38chiiphdoes kde 4.1.1 have a better kopete version?
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16:12.53ForgeAusis there any gui ping/dns/traceroute/finger/etc client for KDE?
16:13.05DaSkreechdoes anyone know any tools to visually map netowrks?
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16:13.17ForgeAuslol DaSkreech :)
16:13.56DaSkreechForgeAus: Fine laugh at my teerebull type
16:13.59DaSkreechnetworks :)
16:14.09Gregoriok... im going.... to...
16:14.15ForgeAusI don't know of a port scanner for KDE but what I can say is what essentially one does is discover clients by scanning ports in an IP range...
16:14.20Gregoriinstall firefox-qt!
16:14.28mrsaccessfe3d I believe can visually map networks
16:14.29DaSkreech check this out ForgeAus
16:14.30ForgeAus(I'm not laughing AT you DaSkreech... just at the timing of us both asking together
16:14.47DaSkreechmrsaccess: Thanks I'll look at it
16:15.20ForgeAusok nice!
16:15.25mrsaccessand knetscan is a frontend to nmap, ping, whois, traceroute
16:15.55mrsaccesskonqueror I believe includes a finger kio-slave
16:15.55DaSkreechknmap is a port scanner
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16:16.23mrsaccessjust use finger: in the address bar
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16:17.16ForgeAusE: Couldn't find package knetscan
16:17.23DaSkreechDamn you konqueror and your endless usefullness
16:17.36DaSkreechForgeAus: I know same for fe3d
16:17.54DaSkreechThough not sure I want to suck up my Video card unless I want to impress clients
16:18.06ForgeAushehe Konqueror rocks!
16:18.10ForgeAusKonquerer and/or Krusader are my two favourite KDE apps!
16:18.27mrsaccessalso there is a network analyzer for KDE, like wireshark but I don't remember it's name
16:18.36ForgeAus ???
16:18.55ForgeAusso where can I get knetscan from?
16:19.14DaSkreechIt is impressive though :)
16:19.37DaSkreechWireshark!! I wonder if that does any visually graphing
16:20.03ForgeAushmm opera doesn't do .png? odd
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16:21.48Kaffiendoes anyone know of a way to import  one notes into basket?
16:22.13DaSkreechKaffien: #basket-devel
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16:51.13ForgeAusknetscan is old, like 2002
16:51.31ForgeAusat least according to sourceforge
16:51.49DaSkreechshould make a wiki page of stuff missing in Linux in general and KDE4 specifically
16:51.58DaSkreechputs kiosk near the top
16:52.39ForgeAusid kiosk touchscreen support?
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16:52.50DaSkreechannma: It's ported?
16:52.52annmakisok itself is there DaSkreech
16:53.10DaSkreechI wasn't aware anyone stood up for the job
16:53.34annmakiosktool isn't ported but kiosk is there
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16:53.48DaSkreechkiosktool is the frontend?
16:54.09ForgeAushehe TweaKDE?
16:54.31DaSkreechForgeAus: Yes. It's very very good
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16:54.40DaSkreechMy manners!
16:54.44DaSkreechhugs annma
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16:55.08ForgeAusyeah looks like you can do alot of disabling in it
16:55.29ForgeAusnothing I need right now or can forsee wanting at this point
16:55.31DaSkreechYep great for netcafes or public boxes at shows
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16:55.47DaSkreechor computers in the reach of 5 year olds
16:55.59ForgeAusdo touchscreens simply pretend to be the mousecursor?
16:56.10DaSkreechthey are the mouse cusour
16:56.29ForgeAusok so what happens if you touch 2 parts of the screen at once?
16:56.39DaSkreechdepends on the touchscreen
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16:57.06DaSkreechsome will just register the first one that hits some will register one then move to the other some will register both
16:57.12mrsaccessknetscan is rather old but nmap, traceroute, whois options hasn't changed much all these years so it works
16:57.13ForgeAusmouse + touchscreen/stylus + gamecontroller (like wii) hehe...
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16:57.39ForgeAusok I'll trust you and install it then :)
16:57.46mrsaccessit is a frontend after all
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16:58.02ForgeAusits just not going to show up in my adept as an installed package is it?
16:58.02DaSkreechmourns the KDE3 interface
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16:58.10ForgeAusme too DaSkreech
16:58.10mrsaccessalternatively stick to the konsole and the command line ;)
16:58.11DaSkreechForgeAus: Hmm?
16:58.20DaSkreechForgeAus: checkinstall it
16:58.33ForgeAusMrsAccess I prefer gui options where possible
16:58.33DaSkreechmrsaccess: have you used Fe3d ?
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16:58.51ForgeAuswhats checkinstall?
16:59.48mrsaccessI am using Gentoo so I have all these available through portage
16:59.57mrsaccessI can try something if you want
17:00.01DaSkreechmrsaccess: damn you and your usefulness
17:00.06ForgeAusahh Gentoo makes a great prefix on other OS's :)
17:00.16ForgeAusI had one for interix :)
17:00.31DaSkreechmrsaccess: I just want to know if the interface is as sluggish as I expect it to be
17:00.34ForgeAusbut no KDE love there :(
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17:01.08mrsaccessyou mean fe3d's interface? I'll check it
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17:04.00ForgeAusgrr I need to be root to compile/install ?
17:04.21DaSkreechForgeAus: No
17:04.40ForgeAusso why the permission denied?
17:04.41DaSkreechOnly if you want to install outside of your home directory
17:04.44ForgeAusdoh it didn't paste right
17:04.57ForgeAusits inside my home
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17:05.15DaSkreechyou can configure --prefix=~/bin/test/prog
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17:06.29ForgeAusuh I think I'll just get kompile and/or kinstaller and use them
17:06.39sp4hey, just found this in the linux upcoming stories on digg:
17:06.54DaSkreechcheckinstall will make a deb that will show up in Adept when you install it
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17:07.28ForgeAuslol! KDE is goingto be used to kill us all?
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17:08.04Sputtalk about world domination, eh?
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17:12.50caelanybody found a solution for the "konqueror processes not terminating when javascript enabled" bug?
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17:15.21DaSkreechWelll if they have maybe they can help with the Firefox process not terminating any damn time it feels like doing so
17:15.59DaSkreechI'm outtie
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17:17.41caelor can anybody tell me if konqueror processes terminate correctly in a recent svn build
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17:24.48mrsaccessfe3d isn't sluggish at all here. But I used nmap to create the input.
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17:47.01hareldvdIs there a kde component that monitors battery on laptops?
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17:47.33smurfsloverhareldvd: kpowersave
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17:47.52hareldvdsmurfslover: thanks.
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17:48.11smurfsloverbut i don't know if it is in kde4 already
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17:50.31hareldvdsmurfslover: does kpowersave leaves an icon on the "Tray"?
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17:50.53smurfsloverif you want it to
17:51.02smurfslovercheck the settings
17:51.33hareldvdwhat about klaptop? can it provide similar features?
17:52.28smurfsloverdon't know
17:52.40smurfslovertry it and see what you like best
17:52.51smurfsloverin kde4 there's a widget for the battery
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17:53.45hareldvdI just started klaptop_check. It gave me an icon on the tray. I don't know if it will shut down my machine on low power.
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17:57.15P1rohi, on kde3 i can add transparency to the kmenu ?
17:57.31annmatranslucency yes
17:57.35annmaI had that
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17:58.12P1roannma, how? i have add it to the bar but cant fin where to add it to he kmenu
17:58.14v6lurhi, is there a dcop handle for switching to desktop x?
17:58.24taonariHi i am running gentoo and finished compiling kde 4.1.1 and noticed that when emerging packages in konsole, that konsole no longer shows which package it is on in the titlebar.  Is this broken or is there anything I can do to turn that on?  I don't see anything in the settings.
17:58.33annmaP1ro: I don't remember how, isn't there a setting dialog?
17:58.45v6lur(in kde 3.5)
17:58.46annmaP1ro: I run kde since ages
17:58.55P1rono, or i just cant find it
17:59.22annmataonari: for gentoo stuff ask in Gentoo channels please
17:59.31annmawe don't emerge in kde
17:59.31Half-Leftannma: Does branches get broken at anytime, it's more stable all the time?
17:59.33taonariannma: alrighty then
17:59.48Half-Leftbug fixes
17:59.52annmabranches are always stable Half-Left as they only accept bug fixes
18:00.08annmasometimes peole backport blindly though
18:00.20Half-Leftannma: Yer but do the bug fixes break anything? :)
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18:00.54annmausually not Half-Left
18:00.56vjoeis there anyone to import the emails from evolution to kmail?
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18:01.04annmaif it does you should signal it promptly
18:01.24Half-Leftok thanks annma baby
18:01.31smurfsloverhareldvd: you can configure that by richt clicking on the tray icon
18:02.24hareldvdsmurfslover: Thanks. (from Germany are you?)
18:04.08smurfsloverhareldvd: no, Belgium
18:04.19hareldvdsmurfslover: Cool.
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18:07.06v6luris there a dcop handle for switching to desktop x?
18:07.44annmalook with kdcop
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18:07.57Ace2016_-Hi all
18:08.07Ace2016_-anyone know what cms kde-look is running on?
18:08.47Ace2016_-i want to make a site and kde-look has the pools and stuff i want, hopefully it has a blog feature as well
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18:09.00Jucatov6lur: dcop kwin KWinInterface setCurrentDesktop <number>
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18:09.27v6lurJucato: thanks :D
18:10.24v6luremm... "no such function"
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18:11.38sandsmarkAce2016_-: it's custom made
18:11.44sandsmarkand no, it doesn't have a blog feature
18:11.45v6lurnevermind. for some reason, i appearently have two kwins running.
18:11.54v6lurdcop kwin-2 .... did the trick
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18:13.08Ace2016_-yea it looked custom made, i assumed that the maintainer would pick an existing cms and customise the layout/modules rather than make it from scratch
18:14.07Shaman`someone please tell me there is a better toolbar for kde 4.1.1 available
18:14.13Shaman`can't even move the pager :(
18:16.15Ace2016_-i haven't even tried 4 i'm happy with 3
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18:16.26smurfsloveryou can move stuff on the panel if you first unlock widgets then click on the cashew that'll appear on the panel
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18:16.41smurfsloveror right click/panel settings
18:17.13smurfsloveror set limits for auto-expanding panels
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18:18.46Shaman`ok I got it to move a bit... but I appreciated the old pager, which I could put right in the middle of my screen :/
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18:18.54annmause kde3
18:19.05sortealI agree
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18:19.08Shaman`otherwise I like 4.1.1 although the default theme is pretty... for lack of a better word... ugly
18:19.19annmause kicker then
18:19.30annmayou probably still have kde3, no?
18:19.47sortealkde4 won't really hit stride till later if ever.
18:19.51Shaman`yeah I do have kde3
18:20.17Shaman`"if ever" really isn't much of an option :/
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18:20.21annmaShaman`: so run kicker on kde4
18:21.04sorteallol I still have faith but the thought of waiting for kde5 has crossed my mind lol sorry I can't help but look at worse case
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18:21.41babeckDoes anyone know if there is a way to change the column headings in KMail to be folder specific?  For example I'd like Sender column to appear in all the folders except outbox, sent-mail, and drafts.
18:21.46Shaman`I dunno, it's mostly usable... the panel is a step back though
18:22.12Shaman`also can't get the trashcan to count right, it's empty but reports 60 items in it
18:22.13sortealPlus I'm NO fan of Dolphin which KDE seems intent on using. Why they want to replace Konqueror is beyond me really.
18:22.23Shaman`there we agree
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18:23.22junkDawgieas a gui plasma doesn't seem to have any benefit.... you still have to click two things to get a new app or folder... you could do that before
18:23.43sortealGood point!
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18:23.52annmayou guys have no clue
18:23.53Shaman`I see the potential future benefits.
18:24.04annmagood Shaman`
18:24.08Shaman`I see that QT4 is vastly superior to QT3.
18:24.17annmayou have various new concepts which were not in kde3
18:24.19Shaman`I just wish that the user experience was #1 on the list right now. :)
18:24.21sortealI'd love to see it really shine but it seems weak against 3.5
18:24.25junkDawgie'splain it to us, annma.... really i'm willing to be convinced
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18:24.44annmait's just not finished for people who want to tweak all day
18:25.02junkDawgieguilty of that.... i am trying to make it useful
18:25.16sortealI see your point
18:25.16annmabut the concepts are totally advanced compared to old-kicker which was a pile of shit code
18:25.28annmathink small devices for a start
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18:25.43annmaread plasma FAQ on
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18:26.03annmanow it's Work In Progress
18:26.07annmawe need time
18:26.22iambenanyone using a 2-battery laptop on kde-4? my battery meter looks messed up when i set "show the state for each battery present"
18:26.57junkDawgiei did... and i agree that nobody really knows it's capabilities .... but as you will also note... there is 0 documentation on the plasma site... just the FAQ
18:27.02annmaPlasma in the thing you configure the more as it's desktop so you guys want it all perfect with all features
18:27.06junkDawgieso we got no idea
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18:27.16annmajunkDawgie: feel freeto maintain websites
18:27.22annmawe already struggle for code
18:27.32annmado you want plasma devels waste time on websites?
18:27.41annmathat takes bloody time to write stuff
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18:28.04annmaand done by users in fact
18:28.08junkDawgiecart before the horse.... a app with no direction is useless
18:28.29annmawe have directions
18:28.50annmabut we don't have time to write them all down for you
18:29.13annmadon't worry about directions and so far nobody challenged the ideas and the design
18:29.19Shaman`I just want a desktop and PIM that are usable
18:29.22Shaman`It's close
18:29.25annmawhat is challenged are small features like hide paneml
18:29.31Shaman`But not what I'd call a full experience :(
18:29.37junkDawgieyou are thinking like a programer... i'm thinking like a user
18:29.37annmawe never said it is
18:29.48annmano, I am a user first believe me
18:29.49Shaman`4.1 series is supposed to be user-targetted, I thought
18:30.09annmaI am not a programmer per profession junkDawgie far from it
18:30.29annma3.1 was not as usable as 3.5 Shaman`
18:30.43sortealVERY TRUE lol
18:30.45junkDawgiemy point would be "brillant programing is useless unless you know how to use it"
18:30.49Shaman`that was like... 10 years ago
18:31.14Shaman`I just expected a better experience, I guess.  My fault.
18:31.30annmaenterprizes still use KDE 3.4
18:31.44annmabecause it's polished with minor versions
18:31.57smurfsloverShaman`: which distro do you have
18:32.06annmadistros jumped on 4 because they want to look modern
18:32.07smurfsloveror did you compile kde4 from source
18:32.26annmaI sort of disagree with their attitude
18:32.27smurfsloverkubuntu's packages are not bad though
18:32.38smurfsloverbut PIM is still buggy
18:32.53smurfsloverespecially akregator
18:33.09junkDawgienew updates all the time, obviously they are trying
18:33.32smurfsloverso you can stay away from it and use kde3 for a stable and complete desktop
18:34.00smurfsloveror you can use kde4, file bug-reports and help these people to make it better
18:34.07boldiiI just zoomed out of my desktop in KDE4 how can I zoom in again??
18:34.53smurfsloverboldii: click the cashew again
18:34.54junkDawgiethe cashew on the top right
18:35.27boldiiI got unlock widget and add activity there
18:35.59junkDawgienew plasmoid the dancing wimmins (a la MontyPython)
18:36.06smurfslovertry meta + 0
18:36.10boldiioh, ok. found it. it was hidden by my panel.
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18:36.23junkDawgiegives himself three demerits for off-topic
18:36.35boldiinever mind. but I think that a panel at the top should be considered.
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18:37.08junkDawgiebelieve there is that option
18:37.17smurfsloverjust move it up
18:37.37boldiiyes, I have it there. and that is why I couldn't find the zoom in option ;)
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18:38.00smurfsloverboldii: file a bug report
18:38.16annmathere's already one surely
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18:38.36boldiiI am currently collecting some bugs I will file that weekend when I have time.
18:38.46boldiithere is so much which is bugging me.
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18:39.19annmaboldii: be sure to check the database before filing any bugs
18:39.36annmaespeciallyif you just happen to install kde4
18:39.45boldiiyes, sure.
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18:41.13boldiihopefully 4.2 will be a lot better.
18:41.19zszwhat do I have to do to make konqueror display applets? The "enable java" option is checked, the path to "java" executable is set to "java", sun java version 1.6.0_07 is installed
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18:41.40annmaboldii: it'll be better and 4.3 will be better and so on
18:41.47boldiiannma: :)
18:42.21Half-Leftzsz: Try setting it to /usrbin/java
18:42.21annmaremember we all do it after regular work
18:42.58boldiiannma: it was not intended to sound mad or whatsoever. I really appreciate the work being done.
18:43.49annmaas hardware moves forward, software also has to
18:43.52annmaI know boldii
18:44.08junkDawgiefor me, 4.1.1 was the turning point.... i wrestled with 4.0.4 and was about to format
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18:44.37metalfan_what do you guys use for rar/unrar in kde4?
18:44.53smurfslovermetalfan_: i use konsole
18:45.02zszHalf-Left: no effect
18:45.19metalfan_Half-Left: thx
18:45.19junkDawgieQ7z  metalfan
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18:45.32boldiiI decided to switch as KDEmod switched to KDE4.
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18:46.47annmausually distros allow to install both 3 and 4
18:46.53metalfan_Half-Left: what distro do you use?
18:47.02annmaso you can for ex run kde4 apps on kde3 or vice versa
18:47.03Half-LeftPeople will come to KDE4.x, just a matter of time
18:47.17annmaI run some kde3 apps on kde4
18:47.20metalfan_junkDawgie: the homepage isnt that informative, sounds more like a only 7zip tool?
18:47.25annmalike Konversation and KMail
18:47.30Half-Leftmetalfan_: Linux mint esyliss
18:47.49boldiithe only KDE3 app I am still running is kmymoney
18:47.55Half-LeftEspecially now Amarok is looking really good
18:47.59metalfan_Half-Left: what a freakshow
18:48.13boldiiwell, I don't know what I should think about the new amarok.
18:48.14junkDawgiemetalfan_: well, you can add context menu support for Dolphin with and add-in "Extract and Compress"
18:48.47metalfan_junkDawgie: got someone here that needs a "out of the box" solution...
18:49.11annmaamarok2 is alpha boldii
18:49.21annmadistros ship alpha stuff
18:49.21Half-LeftJust use Dolphin to open them and copy paste the folder
18:49.34boldiiyep, I mean the new style not it's stability or somehting.
18:49.37Half-Leftannma: Beta now
18:49.47annmaBeta in first stage
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18:49.54Half-LeftBeta2  very soon
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18:50.46smurfsloverboldii: which distro?
18:50.51Half-LeftIt's rather innovative the plasma intergration in the middle is nice
18:51.09smurfsloverin ubuntu you can install amarok-nightly next to amarok 1.4
18:51.25smurfsloveramarok-nightly looks much better
18:51.29boldiiyes, I could do this here too, but I like to try a bit.
18:51.41smurfslovertoo bad it doesn't pick up kde color settings yet
18:51.50Half-LeftWhat doesn't?
18:51.57boldiiI have an svn version from 9th september
18:51.58smurfsloverand works much better
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18:52.15Shaman`back to kde3
18:52.25Half-Lefttrunk pickups colour settings here
18:52.30smurfsloversince i have 4.1
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18:52.50smurfsloversince i have 4.1.1 is don't use kde3 much anymore
18:53.46Half-LeftWell Amarok, digikam are in beta for KDE4
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18:54.00Half-LeftTwo killer apps
18:54.21boldiiand don't forget Koffice
18:54.31Half-LeftThats still Alpha
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18:54.50junkDawgiek3b for kde4 is a disaster
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18:55.06boldiiI don't get k3b to work. but haven't tried very much yet.
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18:55.24Half-LeftWell they need time to port it
18:55.43smurfslovernew digikam looks great
18:55.50junkDawgiethe kde3 version is functional... but it doesn't seem to cooperate with automount
18:55.52iambeni dunno, my k3b-2 works fine
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18:56.03smurfsloverand i'm crazy about the new gwenview
18:56.18Half-LeftLast thing we want really in my view is just another port of the same thing, kde4 apps are innovative and have been redesigned, afew anyway
18:56.38junkDawgiecan you get k3b-2 to verify a burn under kde4?
18:56.55Half-Leftk3b works fine in KDE4
18:57.21junkDawgiei'd disagree, mine won't suck the disc back in and verify
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18:57.51Half-LeftTurn off verify then
18:58.06iambenive never used verify, i've got my cdrom bay filled with another battery
18:58.06Half-LeftOr skip it
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18:58.29junkDawgiedepends if you actually want to keep the data, i guess
18:58.45iambenbut for that matter, my cdrom cant suck anything back in once it's ejected, its a notebook
18:58.58junkDawgiei always use verify if i plan to remove it from the hard drive... it's that or lose it
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19:04.43Half-LeftPitty smplayer couldn't replace drongon player
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19:05.27Half-LeftMine you thats a mplayer front end
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19:14.26DeadFishManHalf-Left: You can say that again for me. They decided to go with a simple approach with KDE4 but Dragon Player UI is way too spartan for my taste...
19:15.01Half-LeftI'll have to agree I'm afraid
19:15.02DeadFishManHalf-Left: SMPlayer's UI is not bad and it has some unique features.
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19:16.02Half-LeftYer shame it's Qt app and not KDE but looks like a Crossplatform one
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19:16.18Half-Leftwell, is
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19:16.33Half-Leftit's extreemly fast
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19:17.00DeadFishManand the ability to resume playing 'no matter what' is nifty! ^_^
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19:20.39Half-Leftok, so I like cmake more now days
19:21.36vjoeis there any KDE frontend to mplayer?
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19:22.21DeadFishManvjoe: KMPlayer, Kaffeine, KPlayer and SMPlayer comes to min
19:22.47friedrich|how do I get the menus back in konqueror? (File Settings Views and so on?)
19:23.04Half-Leftkmplayer, not sure on the status of it. it's in extragear
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19:23.17vjoeDeadFishMan, which do you recommend?
19:23.31Half-Leftsmplayer rocks though
19:24.10DeadFishManvjoe: I'd try them all and see which one I like best. I dislike Kaffeine's UI because I think it is too busy but my wife loves it.
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19:24.27vjoeI will try smplayer
19:24.32vjoeI hate gmplayer :x
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19:24.47Half-Leftsmplayer is feature rich as well
19:25.13vjoebut I have to keep gmplayer because of firefox :|
19:25.33DeadFishManvjoe: KMPlayer is in KDE ExtraGear as Half-Left said so it is kinda of THE semi-official KDE mplayer front-end ^^
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19:27.09Half-LeftFor some reason they dont use mplayer as their backend with default players, totem and dragon is phonon(xine/gstreamer) and totem used both as well
19:27.15ascizowhich component handles key binding in KDE? the window manager?
19:27.28Half-Lefttotem dont use phonon ofcourse
19:28.19sandsmarkascizo: kded, I think
19:28.54ascizosandsmark: ok. thanks
19:28.57vjoediner, see you later
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19:30.19friedrich|Please, can somebody tell me how to get the main menu of konqueror back? The menu bar which has "File Views Settings About" and such?
19:30.22Half-LeftOh the days of sound servers :p
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19:31.21ascizoHalf-Left: ctrl+M says "hide menu bar" here
19:31.22Half-Leftfreeedrich|: Right Click the bar and you have the ticked options
19:31.48friedrich|Half-Left: Ctrl+M it is :D
19:31.54DeadFishManfriedrich| TriedCtrl,M?
19:31.55Half-Leftoh ok :p
19:32.10friedrich|So.. Can somebody tell me how to get rid of that status bar of konqueror?
19:32.10DeadFishManOops, beat me to it
19:32.37friedrich|The thing that informs about loading of webpages?
19:33.19Half-LeftKtorrent is a nice port as well, nice plasma allet for it
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19:42.30Half-LeftArk is a archiver yes
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19:43.08Half-LeftWill be getting lost of love in 4.2
19:44.01shadei need a litle help with kmail, maybe its made by power loss in kaming making something, but now i cant remove one mail from archive, i pres deleate(move to garbage) and it sets line on title but stays on recived folder
19:44.10shadeits kmail from kde 3.5.9
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20:07.02marko_dwhy there is no kde 4.1 screenshot section?
20:08.46Half-LeftThere should be in the Wiki
20:10.21Half-Leftmarko_d: Aaron put mine of KDE4.1 on the site, can't remember where
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20:10.36marko_di mean on the screenshot page
20:12.47Half-Leftmarko_d: He's not had time, sorry
20:13.31marko_dHalf-Left: ok, good to know that it will be there sometimes :)
20:14.38Half-Leftmarko_d: Nice ZUI one :p
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20:15.40Rappis it possible to import my identity settings from kmail in kde 3.5.x into kde 4.1?
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20:30.27Rappone more question: konsole in kde 4.1 complains that my desktop does not support a transparent background. i don't get it... xchat complains about the same problem.
20:30.34Rappis there a way to fix that?
20:30.41ascizohow to get rid of "Most used applications" and such in the K menu?
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20:36.35ShootdownI've just installed KDE 4 and i dont know how to make visible icon tray
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20:40.15roldyxhello I have kde4
20:40.43luke-jr4.0 or 4.1?
20:40.48roldyxcan I see window process??
20:40.56luke-jrwindow process?
20:41.06roldyxsame top
20:41.31roldyxluke-jr: I press ctrl- Esc
20:41.45roldyxbut not work
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20:41.58luke-jrroldyx: it's Ctrl-Shift-Esc… I think
20:44.25roldyxit dont work
20:45.35roldyxcan I set keys for launch "process table"?
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20:55.58Shootdownhow I can to activate systray icon in KDE 4 ?
20:57.34tgurris there any way to run a kde4 application with another color theme than the default one? my problem is that amarok doesn't look very good when you use for example the obsidian cost color theme, so i'd like to run it with the oxygen color theme for example.
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21:01.44ascizodoes konqueror support ns plugins?
21:02.30RichiHhmm, it works again
21:04.07ascizoahh. seems like it does :)
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21:09.03ascizotoo bad i still need some gtk2 apps :/
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21:21.27mrxmikeinstead of one
21:22.30mrxmikei keep finding bugs :)
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21:32.42klebezettel it's kde ^^
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21:42.34junkDawgiecheck the FAQ at the plasma site, mrxmike
21:43.04junkDawgieer.... have to look it up... one sec
21:43.10mrxmikei appreciate it
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21:44.47junkDawgiemrxmike:  here ya go
21:45.18junkDawgieas i read the info i got the impression that extending plasma over two monitors was beyond them at the moment
21:45.34junkDawgiejust my take on it
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21:48.11luke-jrPlasma seemed to work on my two monitors fine
21:48.23luke-jrso it's probably a bug in the crappy nVidia stuff
21:52.16junkDawgielol.... i've seen many comments about glitches with ati and nvidia cards.... gee thats only 90% of the market
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21:53.40luke-jrjunkDawgie: yeah, the Windows 90%
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21:56.56cbrare there news about a networkmanager plasmoid?
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21:59.00Hail_SpacecakeI'm trying to open multiple sound files from opera but after the first I get an error that audacity is already open
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22:03.18mrxmikeplama cashes are nice, unless served salty / in pair
22:03.26mrxmikeplasma cashews
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22:09.41mrxmikeno men
22:09.45mrxmikei found a bug bug bug!!
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22:12.41junkDawgiei prolly could make a list.. but every time i think about it.... things change again
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22:12.56kdepeponixternal, ping
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22:15.41Half-LeftWell, my wireless is working great with the opensource driver they provied
22:16.25mewmewwhats a good wireless program?
22:16.34mewmewi haven't been able to get wireless to work at all
22:17.05mrxmikewpa_supplicant ;D
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22:17.07Half-Leftkwlan seems to work
22:17.27Half-Leftand nEtwork Manager :p
22:17.28kdepepomewmew, I use KNetworkManager
22:17.41Half-LeftNetwork Manager :p
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22:18.47Half-LeftJust had to compile the driver they provided, worked great, just happen to be opensource :)
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22:41.56eNTiand how do i get an application into "Keyboard Shortcuts" dropdown menu?
22:42.19eNTithere seem to be really random entries in there...
22:42.33eNTiespecially in the "KHotKeys" menu.
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22:46.52|Kiichan|Windam|im having this oddball problem with the desktop picker (kpager?) thats in the taskbar.
22:46.58tgillespiehi all, is it normal for nepomukservices to have such a ridiculously high memory usage? does it just need optimising?
22:46.58|Kiichan|Windam|i cant figure out how to bring them back down to normal size...
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22:50.48ForgeAushey :) um is there a quick way to empty trash from in the konqui trash:/ window? if not shouldn't there be?
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22:51.24ForgeAusI mean you can always rightclick your desktop or kicker/panel icon if you have one and delete there, thats quick
22:52.26ForgeAus(even if it is redundant its more, convenient)
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22:56.25_sagitarius_is away: No toy...
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23:04.25CyBaHnn o/
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23:06.02S-i-Ahow can is disable this XXXXXXXX in kate and Kwrite?
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