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| 00:17.42 | UnixDawg | hey guys |
| 00:17.51 | UnixDawg | found a issue in kde 4.1 |
| 00:17.56 | UnixDawg | need input |
| 00:18.03 | UnixDawg | in sound settings |
| 00:19.00 | UnixDawg | ati ixp rev 2 with unknown codec (ati ixp ac97) |
| 00:19.31 | UnixDawg | so sound is not working in kde but works fine from command line |
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| 00:29.34 | UnixDawg | any one |
| 00:29.41 | UnixDawg | I need sound |
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| 00:36.13 | blauzahl | UnixDawg: does it work anywhere? |
| 00:36.39 | UnixDawg | yes it works from the command line |
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| 00:36.49 | UnixDawg | just not in kde |
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| 00:39.28 | blauzahl | alsuren: works fine in 4.1.x too |
| 00:39.28 | blauzahl | check your kmix settings? |
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| 00:39.29 | blauzahl | did it ever work? |
| 00:39.45 | blauzahl | at one point iirc default kmix settings were "zero" |
| 00:39.48 | UnixDawg | it worked fine on bsd |
| 00:40.06 | UnixDawg | and it worksfine from the command line but its not working now |
| 00:40.21 | UnixDawg | on bsd it works in kde 3.9 |
| 00:40.30 | UnixDawg | but never used 4.1 till now |
| 00:40.45 | UnixDawg | as I just reloaded the laptop with arch linux |
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| 00:41.28 | UnixDawg | and everything else is workign thus far in kde |
| 00:41.29 | UnixDawg | just not the sound card |
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| 00:41.59 | blauzahl | hmm. you might want to ask in #archlinux then. i think that's the right channel |
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| 00:42.43 | UnixDawg | it works with alsa |
| 00:42.48 | UnixDawg | it works in arch |
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| 00:42.54 | UnixDawg | its not working in kde |
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| 00:43.16 | UnixDawg | if I use alsa from the command line I get audio |
| 00:43.23 | UnixDawg | so alsa is working |
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| 00:49.07 | blauzahl | i think all the archlinux people know kde4 stuffs, so seriously see if people are alive there. |
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| 00:51.26 | UnixDawg | they are the ones who told me to come here because sound works from the command line fine |
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| 00:51.34 | UnixDawg | so that makes it a kde issue |
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| 00:53.17 | blauzahl | oh, they are evil. |
| 00:53.17 | blauzahl | hmm. |
| 00:53.56 | blauzahl | kde4, right? |
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| 00:54.19 | UnixDawg | yes |
| 00:54.23 | UnixDawg | kde 4.1 |
| 00:54.43 | blauzahl | um, use phonon-xine apparently |
| 00:54.56 | UnixDawg | ? |
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| 01:08.27 | blauzahl_ | sorry, i dropped. |
| 01:09.02 | blauzahl_ | does that work? |
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| 01:09.27 | shadok | blauzahl_: [28/08/2008 02:54:43] <blauzahl> um, use phonon-xine apparently [28/08/2008 02:54:56] <UnixDawg> ? |
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| 01:09.52 | UnixDawg | I done find a pkfg for arch by that name |
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| 01:10.12 | blauzahl_ | hmm. i have no clue how they package things... |
| 01:11.08 | drantin | ask the arch guys what provides phonon-xine >_> |
| 01:12.03 | blauzahl_ | mumbles they might not all be male |
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| 01:13.23 | drantin | mumbles something about guys being gender-neutral in english |
| 01:13.28 | killown | amarok does not work with mp3 files and I have installed all gstreammer plugins and xine depends any clue to enable mp3 support? |
| 01:13.59 | zerkms | killown: USE="mad" ? |
| 01:14.46 | drantin | if on gentoo >_> |
| 01:15.00 | killown | archlinux |
| 01:15.13 | zerkms | oops, tangled with #gentoo |
| 01:15.14 | zerkms | %) |
| 01:16.05 | zerkms | offtop: which word is more correct ^^^: tangle or confuse |
| 01:16.05 | zerkms | ? |
| 01:16.42 | Jucato | "confused" |
| 01:16.47 | zerkms | thanx |
| 01:17.17 | Jucato | killown: unless you are using a very old version of amarok, it doesn't use gstreamer, so installing gstreamer plugins won't help |
| 01:18.05 | killown | amarok 1.4.9.1 |
| 01:19.33 | lilltiger | killown: do you have installed armarok-engine |
| 01:19.37 | killown | Jucato, amarok was woking fine with mp3 files so suddenly its stop to play mp3 files |
| 01:19.41 | killown | yes |
| 01:19.59 | killown | amarok-engine-xine |
| 01:21.00 | lilltiger | run amarok from an terminal, try to play an mp3 and see if it spits out any error |
| 01:21.09 | killown | ok |
| 01:22.14 | killown | no error |
| 01:22.26 | killown | how I do to erase amarok profile? |
| 01:22.28 | lilltiger | does it look like the mp3 is playing? |
| 01:22.39 | killown | no |
| 01:23.29 | drantin | ~/.kde should have amarok stuff in it somewhere |
| 01:23.41 | lilltiger | ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc |
| 01:23.43 | lilltiger | is one |
| 01:24.03 | killown | lilltiger, its was permission problem |
| 01:24.05 | killown | :/ |
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| 01:24.12 | lilltiger | hehe |
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| 01:24.23 | killown | sudo amarok mp3file play it |
| 01:24.26 | killown | :/ |
| 01:24.32 | killown | thank you |
| 01:24.43 | GsuS | is there a way to make a sudo click like uac in windows on kde 3? |
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| 01:34.56 | UnixDawg | bbiab |
| 01:39.53 | UnixDawg | its using phonon-xine and still no audio |
| 01:41.01 | UnixDawg | output devics : ATI IXP rev2 with unknown codec (ATI IXP AC97) |
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| 01:41.18 | UnixDawg | under config panel under sound |
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| 01:48.57 | holycow | hi guys |
| 01:49.09 | holycow | does kde4 have anything like network browser in gnome? |
| 01:49.28 | holycow | konqueror seems to insist on manually asking for a mount point and location |
| 01:49.52 | holycow | oh nm |
| 01:49.53 | holycow | works now |
| 01:50.37 | gr1m-lap | heh |
| 01:50.46 | gr1m-lap | love it when that happens :P |
| 01:52.17 | holycow | hehe |
| 01:52.18 | holycow | yeah |
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| 03:06.25 | EagleScreen | hello |
| 03:06.30 | EagleScreen | i am using Debian |
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| 03:06.52 | EagleScreen | gtk-qt-engine-kde4 causes Firefox and Iceweasel cannot close well |
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| 03:19.22 | slim_ | hello all, i installed kde 4.1 on ubuntu, i try to adjust it , but there is some points not clear, some changes not saved like desktop number, and when reboot some setting disappear |
| 03:19.46 | slim_ | ho wto back it to its original state |
| 03:19.47 | slim_ | ? |
| 03:20.03 | EagleScreen | it is strange |
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| 03:20.42 | EagleScreen | check if ~/.kde4 folder and its sub-folders and files have write permission |
| 03:20.55 | slim_ | ok i look |
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| 03:23.36 | theaman | heh, and I'm having trouble compiling kde. |
| 03:24.18 | theaman | trying to build kdesupport (from svn), I'm running 'cmakekde'. the configure says "configuring done" but then make says no targets specified. something simple I'm missing? |
| 03:24.29 | theaman | I'm following directions at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites#kdesupport |
| 03:25.00 | slim_ | EagleScreen, this is the permission http://phpfi.com/347952 |
| 03:27.14 | EagleScreen | slim_ that does not help nothing |
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| 03:27.54 | slim_ | EagleScreen, also in system settings no admin button appear |
| 03:28.37 | EagleScreen | slim_ this is normal by the moment |
| 03:28.44 | slim_ | ok |
| 03:29.01 | EagleScreen | you can use sudo systemsettings by the moment |
| 03:29.09 | slim_ | there is no way to back to original state ? |
| 03:29.24 | EagleScreen | slim_ back what??? |
| 03:29.25 | slim_ | i mean widget configuration |
| 03:29.32 | EagleScreen | yes |
| 03:29.41 | slim_ | now i have only menu :) |
| 03:29.48 | EagleScreen | you can reset widget configuration |
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| 03:30.21 | slim_ | EagleScreen, how ? |
| 03:30.31 | EagleScreen | removing a file |
| 03:30.42 | EagleScreen | let me see |
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| 03:35.26 | EagleScreen | slim_ is .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
| 03:35.41 | slim_ | thaanks EagleScreen |
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| 03:46.02 | mdeanda | is there a way to take all my email from a "local" folder in kmail and import it to another users's kmail? i'm leaving work and want to keep some email, its too much to upload, etc. but i'm going to make a backup of my ~/ directory |
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| 03:51.08 | shadok | mdeanda: i don't know how you can do that but i'm sure that backing up you ~/ folder enables you to import the mails later :) |
| 03:51.38 | shadok | "just do it" ^^ |
| 03:51.43 | mdeanda | heh. |
| 03:52.17 | mdeanda | i found that you can drag each email to desktop, to export it.. but you can't drag folders |
| 03:52.23 | shadok | i keep the same /home partition since 5 years :) |
| 03:52.28 | mdeanda | plus i'm not sure how to import them |
| 03:52.55 | shadok | mdeanda: my advice is to backup it and look for the solution after that :) |
| 03:53.03 | mdeanda | shadok: the only reason i need this is because i'm leaving my job.. i was lucky enough to run kde on my workstation |
| 03:53.52 | shadok | there must be a way to import mail files in another kmail |
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| 03:54.24 | shadok | mdeanda: http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/tools.php |
| 03:54.44 | wilberfan | just installed openSUSE 11.0 (kde4.1) I can see no way to install new widgets... is this a bug, or...? |
| 03:55.28 | mdeanda | its funny. since i installed linux on my workstation, i rebooted at about the following times: 120 days - there was a blackout in los angeles, battery didn't last long enough. 105 days - our company was aquired, we moved. 95 days - our new company changed offices. 120 days - we got an extra gig of ram for our computers. 90 days - my bsod screen saver chewed up all the ram including swap and i couldn't recover fast enough. i'm currently at 2 |
| 03:55.38 | wilberfan | i seem to be missing the "install new widgets" button from the bottom of the "Add Widgets" panel... |
| 03:55.50 | mdeanda | this is my machine at work. and i use this about 8-9 hours a day |
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| 03:56.17 | rpag | I've turned on slow keys by mistake and now when i try to type something nothing is printed. |
| 03:56.25 | rpag | how can i turn it off |
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| 03:56.47 | rpag | kde4.1 also crashed before this happened |
| 03:56.52 | rpag | and i was typing fine til then |
| 03:57.57 | rpag | fixed it |
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| 04:07.01 | beto | boa noite |
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| 04:17.40 | wally345 | Need help with "Service Discovery" |
| 04:18.09 | wally345 | What to fill in the Administration part of the setup ? |
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| 04:45.44 | supert0nes | my school offers webdav service to host our personal files what is the best way to connect to that in kde4? |
| 04:47.39 | supert0nes | nm i got a folderview of webdavs sweet stuff |
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| 05:25.29 | Ficthe | hi, I'm a new KDE user (3.5) - the whiteness hurts my eyes, on a fresh install, what could I do to tone it down? I'd like a dark theme preferably - any suggestions? |
| 05:25.51 | drantin | kde-look.org ? |
| 05:27.18 | Ficthe | oh, jolly. I just answered my own question - just set the LCD to 5% brightness, and that did it. but thanks! :) |
| 05:27.20 | wally345 | where to find help an zeroconf ? |
| 05:27.54 | drantin | without stating the actual problem? google and wikipedia |
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| 05:29.29 | wally345 | drantin: tried google and wikipedia , of course |
| 05:29.43 | drantin | what's the actual problem? |
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| 05:31.37 | wally345 | drantin: can not connect to ssh shell in LAN |
| 05:32.18 | wally345 | drantin: How to use the KDE Service Discovery setup ? |
| 05:32.47 | wally345 | drantin: Whats a "Shared Secret" ? |
| 05:33.49 | drantin | try #avahi ? |
| 05:34.13 | drantin | never needed zeroconf for anything.... |
| 05:36.55 | wally345 | Where to ask for the KDE part "Service Discovery" (i know url of kde.org ) |
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| 05:44.07 | thedanyes | hello. |
| 05:44.48 | mdeanda | hi. |
| 05:45.00 | thedanyes | I'm running KDE 3.5.9 and I'm wondering if there is a way to make all the programs listed in the panel show up with the same text color |
| 05:45.17 | thedanyes | instead of some showing up with a grey text color and others in black? |
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| 05:45.48 | thedanyes | I tried using the 'taskbar' configuration under 'use custom colors', and I set both the 'inactive task' and 'active task' colors to black |
| 05:45.51 | mdeanda | panel? like taskbar? |
| 05:45.53 | thedanyes | but some still show up in grey |
| 05:46.08 | thedanyes | yeah the taskbar, where it shows currently running applications |
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| 05:46.52 | mdeanda | hmm. interesting.. i never reallyl paid attention.. so it fades out depending on when it was used right? |
| 05:46.56 | thedanyes | apparently |
| 05:46.58 | mdeanda | bold being the current app. |
| 05:47.02 | thedanyes | yeah |
| 05:47.27 | thedanyes | its annoying because I want all the text to be high contrast and I don't really care whats 'active' or maximized when i'm looking at the taskbar |
| 05:47.41 | thedanyes | basically the problem is that i have a hard time reading grey-on-grey |
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| 05:48.57 | mdeanda | thedanyes: i just set it to use custom colors for inactive/active to red/green and now i get no greys |
| 05:49.33 | mdeanda | ahh.. but it does still reduce constract.. |
| 05:49.38 | mdeanda | contrast |
| 05:49.50 | thedanyes | yeah |
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| 05:50.03 | thedanyes | i thought it was fixed for a second too... |
| 05:50.16 | thedanyes | the green and red looks ridiculous tho. hahaha |
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| 05:50.34 | mdeanda | lol i just wanted to make sure it was doing what i thought it was.. hehe |
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| 05:52.24 | mdeanda | thedanyes: i can't figure out how to disable that. sorry |
| 05:52.29 | thedanyes | thanks for trying |
| 05:52.34 | thedanyes | anyone else have an idea? |
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| 05:53.00 | mdeanda | i suppose changing the taskbar font might make it easier to read |
| 05:53.07 | mdeanda | or the taskbar background |
| 05:53.11 | soyuz | Hi all! Got opensuse 11 with KDE4.1. Generated an app using KAppTemplate. Cmake build complains - FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found. Thanks. |
| 05:53.29 | thedanyes | yeah i might give that a try |
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| 05:56.05 | thedanyes | i've got an ugly workaround |
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| 05:56.27 | thedanyes | i set the inactive and active task text colors to black, and the background color to white, and then set the appearance to 'for transparency' |
| 05:56.53 | thedanyes | this way the 'inactive' tasks show up in this huge blurry font, but at least its relatively high contrast |
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| 05:58.36 | waltercool | i have problems with index.docbook, what kind of package give me that? |
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| 06:24.50 | frobb | Im having an odd problem with KDE on Fedora 8 .. the keyboard sometimes stops responding, but not the mouse.. now the odd thing is that using the mouse I can log out / switch session and in the other sessions the keyboard does respond.. does this sound like a KDE problem or a (driver?) problem with Fedora 8? Unfortunately the error cannot be reproduced on demand, but oddly it occurs mostly the times I use openoffice (yes, strange..) |
| 06:27.08 | thedanyes | i had a problem the other day where kate stopped responding to my keyboard |
| 06:27.17 | thedanyes | it was only kate, other apps worked fine |
| 06:27.29 | thedanyes | and i could reposition the cursor or whatever with the mouse, i just couldn't type. |
| 06:28.27 | thedanyes | i'm running K Ubuntu hardy heron, and I might have had open office running too |
| 06:30.31 | jazka | are you sure you didn't have Tools -> Read Only Mode |
| 06:31.09 | thedanyes | i've never used that feature before... so maybe i guess. is there a keyboard shortcut that activates that mode? |
| 06:32.18 | thedanyes | i just tried read only mode and that is the same behaviour i saw, but I'm almost positive i was not in read only mode |
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| 06:40.27 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
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| 06:40.31 | drantin | j0 |
| 06:40.42 | drantin | ooh, quassel AND ipv6... |
| 06:40.44 | FuriousGeorge | whats the name of the window manager that i need to kill in order to run startkde after having run startx |
| 06:40.46 | thedanyes | hey Furious. |
| 06:40.52 | drantin | kwin ? |
| 06:41.11 | FuriousGeorge | drantin: no, i need to kill the one that starts with startx, or kwin wont run |
| 06:41.11 | drantin | why not just fix ~/.xinintrc ? |
| 06:41.20 | drantin | er |
| 06:41.21 | FuriousGeorge | but i forgot the name, and cant seem to ps ax|grep it |
| 06:41.25 | drantin | ~/.xinitrc |
| 06:41.26 | apt | ~/.xinitrc is the traditional personal startup script used by xinit/startx, but in Debian ~/.xsession is preferred. xdm and startx use ~/.xsession; gdm uses ~/.gnomerc instead. |
| 06:41.37 | drantin | icewm? twm? |
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| 06:42.33 | FuriousGeorge | drantin: twm |
| 06:42.34 | FuriousGeorge | thanks |
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| 06:42.51 | drantin | np, but look into fixing ~/.xinitrc ... |
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| 06:50.48 | Phlogi | where can I find all those fancy wallpapers coming with kde4? Used here for example: http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/08/paged-blending.ogg - I can't find them on kde-look |
| 06:51.07 | Dedi | after some months with kde4 i finally gone back to gnome :( |
| 06:51.26 | Dedi | just too many showstopper left |
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| 07:19.01 | kim0 | hey guys, I'm on kde4.1 on fedora-9 |
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| 07:19.13 | kim0 | What's the best way for skype to work on the sound system ?! |
| 07:19.51 | drantin | send lots of moneys to skype devs, but there are simpler ways |
| 07:20.01 | kim0 | :) |
| 07:20.15 | kim0 | what's the twisted work around of the day |
| 07:20.35 | drantin | not sure, only part I don't have working atm is the mic on my handset... |
| 07:20.59 | drantin | other than that, just make sure nothing else is using the soundsystem |
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| 07:21.45 | kim0 | Is phonon and pulseaudio at the same layer |
| 07:21.52 | kim0 | is it either or .. or is it both |
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| 07:22.19 | thiago_home | kim0: no |
| 07:22.23 | thiago_home | they are not at the same layer |
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| 07:22.30 | thiago_home | they're not even in direct contact |
| 07:22.37 | thiago_home | there's one layer in-between |
| 07:22.58 | kim0 | thiago_home: what's that layer ? |
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| 08:19.58 | kim0 | Does the new panel (kicker?) not have hide/auto-hide ? |
| 08:20.04 | thiago | kim0: plasma |
| 08:20.09 | thiago | yes, it has that feature |
| 08:20.12 | thiago | it'll be present in KDE 4.2 |
| 08:20.21 | kim0 | I see .. |
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| 08:20.34 | kim0 | 4.1 is still in fedora testing |
| 08:20.42 | kim0 | I guess I have to wait even more ;) |
| 08:20.42 | thiago | 4.1.0 is the latest release |
| 08:20.48 | thiago | 4.2 is planned for January |
| 08:21.07 | kim0 | cool stuff |
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| 08:25.51 | drantin | 4.1.1 is coming though :D |
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| 09:01.54 | cga`work | hi all... how do i tell solid to use wicd instead of nm? |
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| 09:12.09 | cga`work | 3 |
| 09:12.15 | cga`work | sorry, typo |
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| 09:44.13 | Fyl0n | I've upgraded to KDE 3.5.10 and now my externa taskbar isn't tranparent anymore.. other bars are all transparent. |
| 09:44.13 | Fyl0n | How can I make the external taskbar tranparent again? |
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| 09:46.06 | Murray_B | Hi! |
| 09:46.44 | Murray_B | Ah, kde 4.1.1 was tagged an hour ago - let the packaging begin! |
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| 09:48.14 | asspen187 | KDE is a pretty unreliable desktop environment in comparison to Gnome |
| 09:48.22 | asspen187 | and it runs quite a bit slower, too |
| 09:48.51 | Murray_B | Yes, and the earth is a flat plate... |
| 09:49.06 | asspen187 | Also I noticed every time KDE is released they add the "its even faster" tag to the release |
| 09:49.21 | asspen187 | its like, yeah, more bloat = faster performance |
| 09:49.25 | asspen187 | according to KDE |
| 09:49.54 | asspen187 | Man I'm serious, I mean you don't see KDE users saying "I'm one step closer to a gnome free desktop" |
| 09:50.15 | asspen187 | but gnome users HATE loading unreliable kde libs and crap to get that one crapplication they need working |
| 09:50.39 | hyper_ch | why don't they use then an alternative? |
| 09:50.54 | hyper_ch | hmmm, let me guess, because that "crapplication" is the best out there? |
| 09:50.54 | asspen187 | Oh no you don't im not walking into that trap |
| 09:50.56 | Murray_B | asspen187: Well okay, that means, gnome users are more intolerant than kde users - but who cares? |
| 09:51.12 | bonsaikitten | asspen187: your troll is weak |
| 09:51.20 | Murray_B | hyper_ch: "Krapplication" please ;-) |
| 09:51.28 | bonsaikitten | asspen187: how about #fedora as next troll target? |
| 09:51.30 | hyper_ch | so, if it's the best out there, why do you call it "crapplication" and what would you call the others "evenmorecrappliation"? |
| 09:51.38 | asspen187 | fedora sounds good |
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| 09:51.50 | bonsaikitten | y'all have been trolled ... |
| 09:51.53 | hyper_ch | Murray_B: ^^ |
| 09:52.14 | Murray_B | bonsaikitten: Well, I have been amused *g* |
| 09:52.21 | asspen187 | dangit bonsai i had like, another 3 minutes here thanks a lot |
| 09:52.30 | bonsaikitten | asspen187: stop failing so hard |
| 09:52.46 | asspen187 | im hard alright |
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| 09:53.14 | asspen187 | but yes, i should have done Krapplication, whats wrong with me, gosh. |
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| 09:54.18 | asspen187 | there was some truth to that rant i must say |
| 09:54.47 | asspen187 | KDE does krash all the time, the libs DO take forever, and the desktop IS slower |
| 09:54.56 | asspen187 | troll or not |
| 09:54.58 | bonsaikitten | no, no and no :) |
| 09:55.03 | Jucato | so use something else and move on. |
| 09:55.20 | bonsaikitten | asspen187: you need some facts in your FUD, otherwise it doesn't work |
| 09:55.20 | Jucato | this is #kde, a channel for KDE technical user support, not for "rant/whine of the day" |
| 09:55.47 | asspen187 | ohhhhhhhhh, i thought kde was purposely inviting of rants, based on its performance |
| 09:56.05 | pinotree | just the trolls like you |
| 09:56.07 | Jucato | that was and will be your first and only warning |
| 09:56.24 | asspen187 | jucato ok ill stop now lol fedora sounds like a good place to be |
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| 10:00.43 | Murray_B | Hm, I reported a serious bug of knode and bugzilla sent it to the knode-devel mailing list, but there seems to be no reaction, looks like the list is quite dead... Does anybody knows something about it or how to handle this? |
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| 10:02.09 | pinotree | which bug # ? |
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| 10:02.53 | Murray_B | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168674 |
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| 10:07.58 | CyBaH | gm all |
| 10:08.32 | Murray_B | hi CyBaH |
| 10:08.45 | CyBaH | :) |
| 10:10.22 | DunkelWolf | good morning |
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| 10:13.02 | cuci | Hi folks! I've just replaced alsa with oss-4 but kmixer doesn't start, any quick fixses about it? |
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| 10:17.29 | asspen187 | bugs.kde.org is going to krash with overloading |
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| 10:20.15 | Murray_B | pinotree: I think that is serious, if you coudn't connect to the server, isn't it? |
| 10:20.47 | pinotree | Murray_B: unless you can step up and provide a patch, i think the only thing you can do is being patient |
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| 10:22.19 | cb400f | Murray_B: I have a couple of reports against kde4 knode too.. afaik there's no maintainer.. I think it was even considered not including it in 4.1 at all afaik.. .. we have to make more people appreciate the wonders of nntp ;-) |
| 10:22.56 | cga`work | hi all... how do i tell solid to use wicd instead of nm? |
| 10:23.08 | asspen187 | oh look at that, kde4 gets released and bugs.kde.org crashes |
| 10:23.17 | Murray_B | pinotree: Using OSS has a big problem - I always feel that I need to learn C/C++, etc and fix the bugs I find... :-) |
| 10:23.40 | Murray_B | cb400f: Yes, I get this feeling, too. |
| 10:24.13 | asspen187 | lol, nntp is too complicated for most people |
| 10:24.16 | pinotree | cga`work: unless a backend for it is written, no way |
| 10:24.28 | cga`work | pinotree: oh. mmkey |
| 10:24.30 | pinotree | asspen187: bugs.kde.org works |
| 10:24.47 | pinotree | asspen187: and, as Jucato told you already, stop trolling. |
| 10:25.11 | asspen187 | oh yeah |
| 10:25.25 | asspen187 | ok i seriously gotta go, i should have left for work 10 minutes ago |
| 10:25.50 | Murray_B | asspen187: Yes, the need to use another program than a webbrowser... That is too complicated for the dumb masses... But if somebody gets used to usenet, he will prefer it over all those thousand widespread forums |
| 10:26.41 | asspen187 | true indeed |
| 10:26.42 | Murray_B | But to be seriosly, I have the feeling that usenet is dying fast... |
| 10:26.50 | asspen187 | usenet is dying fast |
| 10:26.51 | asspen187 | very fast |
| 10:26.55 | Murray_B | :-( |
| 10:27.04 | asspen187 | someone will need to simplify it for it to survive |
| 10:27.16 | asspen187 | look at what happened to binary |
| 10:27.17 | Murray_B | asspen187: Usenet IS simple! |
| 10:27.23 | cb400f | how could it be simpler? .. install client -> enter servername.. enjoy |
| 10:27.33 | asspen187 | lol you know what i mean, the "dumb masses" |
| 10:28.00 | asspen187 | time warner, comcast, adelphia all ripped out binary service |
| 10:28.05 | asspen187 | time warner even killed nntp completely |
| 10:28.17 | asspen187 | verizon has no binary either, but thats been that way for a while |
| 10:28.24 | asspen187 | dying fast, very fast |
| 10:28.25 | Murray_B | You need to tell him that there is an internet without a webbrowser, that is the problem. Many people don't know that there are email-programs too... |
| 10:29.02 | bonsaikitten | no talented trolls anymore :( |
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| 10:29.32 | asspen187 | work.. bye |
| 10:29.40 | Murray_B | bonsaikitten: No, they even don't know usenet ;-) |
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| 10:44.08 | Half-Left | Oh no, the dreaded konqueror never die processes bug has come back in 4.1.1 |
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| 10:46.43 | gkiagia | really?? |
| 10:46.55 | Half-Left | yep :/ |
| 10:47.14 | gkiagia | I saw ereslibre reopened that bug |
| 10:47.25 | gkiagia | but I can't reproduce it |
| 10:47.37 | Half-Left | Kopete process actually closes now but last night I build branches and it's back |
| 10:47.56 | gkiagia | maybe you have the javascript debugger enabled? |
| 10:48.02 | gkiagia | (that's another bug) |
| 10:48.30 | Half-Left | Nope, not enabled |
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| 10:49.15 | gkiagia | if you open just one konq window, will konq close afterwards? ereslibre commented on that bug saying that it only happens if you open multiple windows |
| 10:50.54 | Half-Left | hmm, ok it's closing the process now |
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| 10:51.17 | gkiagia | so it happens with multiple windows only? |
| 10:51.33 | pinotree | try with a simple non-preloaded non-kdeinit application |
| 10:51.43 | Half-Left | No just konqueror, when it's open and I close it, the process stays open |
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| 10:52.02 | pinotree | and you preload options are? |
| 10:52.06 | pinotree | *your |
| 10:52.07 | Half-Left | And then another when I open konqueror again and again |
| 10:52.20 | Half-Left | Seems to have gone now |
| 10:53.14 | Half-Left | pinotree: Default |
| 10:53.43 | Half-Left | Ok, there it is again |
| 10:53.56 | Half-Left | Konqueror processes stay open |
| 10:54.30 | pinotree | Half-Left: please, <pinotree> try with a simple non-preloaded non-kdeinit application |
| 10:55.15 | Half-Left | yer well it only happens with Konqueror, thats what I'm saying |
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| 10:55.33 | pinotree | then it isn't the " dreaded konqueror never die processes bug has come back in 4.1.1" |
| 10:56.12 | Half-Left | So how come a new process of konqueror starts each time and never dies on close? |
| 10:56.25 | thiago | did you start on the terminal? |
| 10:56.32 | pinotree | that is -another- problem, not -that- problem |
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| 10:57.22 | Half-Left | I have 3 konqueror processes open |
| 10:57.32 | Half-Left | thiago: No |
| 10:57.41 | thiago | then they do stay running |
| 10:57.48 | thiago | that's not a bug, that's the expected behaviour |
| 10:57.56 | Half-Left | This only happens when I go somewhere other than my home page |
| 10:59.05 | thiago | attach gdb to it and let us know where it's stuck |
| 10:59.16 | thiago | but konquerors that aren't started from a terminal are meant to stay running |
| 10:59.19 | Half-Left | thiago: So your telling me that everytime I start konqueror each an ew process should start and I have will have unlimited konqueror proceses open by the end of the day? |
| 10:59.30 | thiago | no, not unlimited |
| 10:59.34 | thiago | they should stay under 5 |
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| 11:00.29 | Half-Left | Lets try that |
| 11:02.04 | Half-Left | thiago: I have 6 open now |
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| 11:02.37 | thiago | ok, where are they stuck? |
| 11:02.57 | Half-Left | Where? |
| 11:03.13 | Half-Left | They are just open processes |
| 11:03.53 | thiago | attach gdb to them and type "bt" |
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| 11:04.24 | Half-Left | to each one? |
| 11:06.05 | Half-Left | gah, I'm not running any debug, I've set to final build |
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| 11:12.19 | Half-Left | thiago: Just building with -debugfull |
| 11:13.21 | gkiagia | normally it should be stuck in the event loop, so only debug qt is needed to tell that |
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| 11:17.53 | Half-Left | gkiagia: Oh right, I'll get my Qt4 debug package then |
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| 11:23.52 | grablin | Hello. I have noticed one strange thing in window managment in KDE 4.1. It has an opportunity to set keyboard shortcut to evoke a certain window. (Alt+Space -> Advanced -> Window Shortcut. I can set shortcut and it works fine. But if I close that window and assing the same shortcut to another window it doesn't work. Looks like KDE remebers shortcut and trys to evoke the old, closed window which doesn't exist anymore. |
| 11:26.06 | Murray_B | You set an keyboard shortcut and it works one time? Great! Personal keyboard shortcuts are totally broken in kde 4.1 |
| 11:28.24 | gkiagia | yes they are |
| 11:28.32 | gkiagia | grablin: report a bug about that |
| 11:28.43 | grablin | Murray_B: Moreover! They work one time and THIS shortcut you can't use anymore! |
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| 11:29.16 | grablin | gkiagia: Ok... |
| 11:31.04 | Murray_B | grablin: I can't use personal keyboard shortcuts at all with kde 4.1 :-( |
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| 11:31.58 | shevy | when anyone of you first tried kde 4.* i.e. with openSUSE, was he confused? |
| 11:32.25 | jazka | he being who? |
| 11:32.38 | shevy | the one who used it of course |
| 11:32.59 | jazka | not really |
| 11:33.00 | Murray_B | shevy: Hm, kde 4 is very different to kde 3 - I think everybody was a bit confused the first time :-) |
| 11:33.07 | grablin | Murray_B: I have set the standart windows like shortcut scheme... It works... K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Import Scheme |
| 11:33.10 | shevy | the widgets confused me :( |
| 11:33.35 | shevy | not to mention that opensuse kde seems buggy too, i managed to crash plasma after 2 minutes playing :P |
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| 11:33.52 | shevy | i see Murray_B |
| 11:34.00 | Murray_B | shevy: You already said that you are using Opensuse :-P |
| 11:34.11 | grablin | shevy: I like Picture Frame widget... :) But I have alrady report to wishlist about it :) |
| 11:34.17 | gkiagia | opensuse ships with kde 4.0.x patched with kde 4.1 alpha... so it should be buggy :) |
| 11:34.17 | shevy | yeah but maybe kde 4 itself was buggy. i was not sure Murray_B ;) |
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| 11:35.06 | grablin | I use Archlinux and KDE 4.1 package for it |
| 11:35.17 | Murray_B | shevy: I used Suse for some years, if you want to know, what kde is really like you shouldn't use SuSE IMHO... They patch a lot... |
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| 11:35.36 | elcuco | hi all, lets assume i want to donate some money to to kde via paypal. how can i do it? |
| 11:35.43 | Murray_B | gkiagia: Ah, I see, still the same... |
| 11:36.12 | gkiagia | still the same? |
| 11:36.26 | gkiagia | yeah, opensuse does a LOT of patches |
| 11:36.48 | Murray_B | elcuco: http://ev.kde.org/ => donations |
| 11:36.57 | elcuco | http://www.kde.org/support/support.php ;-) |
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| 11:52.32 | Half-Left | gkiagia: Having a brain dead day today |
| 11:53.34 | cga`work | how do i set services to start at boot in systemsettings??? it won't make me start/stop them and kdesu systemsettings or launching it from root does'nt work |
| 11:53.37 | Half-Left | So that means I can't take simple instructions |
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| 11:54.43 | Half-Left | cga`work: Open systemsettings as sudo or su |
| 11:55.00 | cga`work | Half-Left: won't work (as i said) and don't have sudo |
| 11:55.17 | Half-Left | You need to run the full line |
| 11:55.34 | cga`work | Half-Left: root doesn't open it for it can't find dbus sokmething. |
| 11:55.49 | cga`work | ohok |
| 11:55.49 | Half-Left | i.e /KDE4DIR/bin/systemsettings |
| 11:55.59 | cga`work | ok i try that |
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| 11:56.22 | Jucato | unless you mean KDE services (those already listed in SYstem Settings), you'll have to consult with your distro for running services at boot. those are usually distro-specific tools |
| 11:57.16 | Jucato | the ones in System Settings Service Manager are KDE-only services, not really started at boot, but at login |
| 11:57.51 | cga`work | Jucato: i mean systemsettings/advanced/servicemanager/load on demand |
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| 11:58.04 | cga`work | i need to start khotkey for example |
| 11:58.27 | cga`work | and place it at boot of kde |
| 11:58.27 | Jucato | yeah, but those don't get started at boot |
| 11:58.32 | gkiagia | full root will start with "dbus-launch systemsettings" |
| 11:58.42 | cga`work | gkiagia: thanks |
| 11:58.53 | cga`work | Jucato: anyway to put them at boot yet? |
| 11:59.35 | Jucato | it's not a "start at boot" service but a "start on login" |
| 11:59.48 | cga`work | oh yes. true. that would be fine too |
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| 12:03.52 | cga`work | gkiagia: that fails too. it returns some error. it might be because i'm on debian sid with kde4 from experimental XD |
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| 12:06.05 | gionnico | Hi! |
| 12:06.53 | gionnico | Is it possible in kde trunk to make "Application Launcher" forgive what you've previously searched? |
| 12:07.02 | gionnico | like in vista |
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| 12:07.26 | gkiagia | cga`work: xhost +local:root, su, dbus-launch systemsettings |
| 12:07.42 | gionnico | because if I look for "Konsole" eg and open it .. the next time I go to application launcher is probably for something different |
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| 12:08.40 | gkiagia | cga`work: if you us debian you can also run "su-to-root -X -c systemsettings" |
| 12:08.47 | gkiagia | s/us/use |
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| 12:10.35 | gionnico | not possible, so |
| 12:11.16 | gionnico | is there something like gimp for qt4? |
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| 12:12.25 | gkiagia | krita |
| 12:12.48 | gionnico | thanks |
| 12:12.50 | gionnico | I've a bug |
| 12:12.53 | gkiagia | gionnico: http://www.koffice.org/krita/ |
| 12:13.08 | gionnico | block num was on by default |
| 12:13.10 | gionnico | with kde |
| 12:13.16 | gionnico | but irssi thought it was off |
| 12:13.29 | gionnico | now the light's off and irssi thinks it's on and viceversa |
| 12:13.50 | gionnico | same for the kcalc |
| 12:14.04 | gionnico | so that option doesn't work |
| 12:14.50 | gkiagia | number lock? |
| 12:15.01 | gkiagia | xorg bug :) |
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| 12:15.28 | gionnico | ah ok if it's known it's ok |
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| 12:15.53 | gionnico | and what about non working display power managment? |
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| 12:16.10 | gionnico | i have standby after 2 mins but the screensaver stays there for hours.. |
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| 12:17.35 | gkiagia | I don't know it it's known |
| 12:17.40 | gkiagia | but I am sure it is not a kde bug |
| 12:17.46 | gkiagia | if* |
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| 12:18.05 | gionnico | if it is it's a xorg bug? |
| 12:19.15 | gkiagia | yes |
| 12:19.21 | gkiagia | most probably |
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| 12:32.53 | opensourcecat | What is the status of kiosk for KDE4? |
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| 12:35.58 | Rapp | how can i add an "action" to a konqueror context menu in kde 3.5.x? i want to have some action "open with emacsclient", which calls "emacsclient %s", where %s is the filename |
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| 12:38.03 | concernedcitizen | besides kdesvn, what other svn tools are there? kdesvn keeps crashing when trying to commit :( |
| 12:38.28 | gkiagia | Rapp: you can add a file association for the file types you want to open with emacsclient |
| 12:38.49 | gkiagia | Rapp: and it's not necessary to have it as a default, if you don't want it |
| 12:38.52 | Rapp | gkiagia, no, i do not want that. i want to be able to do that with an easy click on ALL file types |
| 12:39.20 | Rapp | i think it can be done, because there are scripts or such stuff on kdeapps that add actions to the konq menu |
| 12:39.28 | gkiagia | hm, well, there is a way to do it, but I don't know |
| 12:39.30 | Rapp | and those actions often are just bash scripts |
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| 12:40.11 | gkiagia | concernedcitizen: there is the command line "svn" client :P |
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| 12:42.24 | Rapp | concernedcitizen, it shouldn't crash... are you running the latest version? i never had problems yet... |
| 12:43.00 | concernedcitizen | how do I make a local directory a working copy in command line? |
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| 12:48.34 | Rapp | gkiagia, http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 12:49.50 | gkiagia | Rapp: there is a slightly updated version here... http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
| 12:49.58 | Rapp | ah, ok |
| 12:50.01 | gkiagia | techbase is the new site.. developer.kde.org is dead |
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| 12:51.56 | concernedcitizen | Rapp: latest version :( |
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| 13:02.22 | theaman | hullo, I'm following the directions at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites#kdesupport , but somethings not right. I'm a bit of a noob to the KDE dev process. Can anyone help? Here's my output so far: http://rafb.net/p/4RwJUN34.html |
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| 13:04.16 | gkiagia | theaman: install the gstreamer development headers |
| 13:04.38 | theaman | okay ... even though it's just an *optional* component? |
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| 13:05.02 | gkiagia | yeah, it should not do that imho... |
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| 13:07.13 | theaman | alright, well, it's building now |
| 13:07.22 | theaman | awesome! I love it when devs get it an actually use colors |
| 13:07.33 | theaman | and the percentage complete .... that is *real* nice |
| 13:07.42 | gkiagia | that's cmake magic :) |
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| 13:08.01 | theaman | well shucks, I think other projects should do something similar |
| 13:08.19 | theaman | *! |
| 13:08.23 | gkiagia | yeah, everybody should switch to cmake :P |
| 13:08.35 | gionnico | this must be kde bug |
| 13:08.35 | theaman | the exclamation point is important to my last statement. :-) |
| 13:08.42 | gionnico | because it's openGL related |
| 13:09.08 | gionnico | Euphoria screensaver (which looks like the best in quality) |
| 13:09.13 | gionnico | isn't fullscreen |
| 13:09.19 | gionnico | I think 640x480 ! |
| 13:09.25 | gionnico | the rest is blank |
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| 13:09.32 | gionnico | (great screensaver) |
| 13:09.55 | gkiagia | gionnico: could be a bug in the screensaver... |
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| 13:10.11 | shevy | well cmake is nice but that it requires one to use a separate build dir is annoying |
| 13:10.32 | theaman | alright... so not that it's *that* important, but would that be abug in the internal kde build documentation? |
| 13:10.32 | gionnico | don't you have it too? |
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| 13:10.43 | theaman | since it's apparently necessary to have a couple of *optional* components? |
| 13:10.49 | gkiagia | shevy: it's not required to build in another dir... kde forces that to make things easier, but it is not required |
| 13:10.56 | shevy | oh i see |
| 13:11.11 | gkiagia | but, well, it is *way* better to keep the build files in another dir |
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| 13:11.25 | gkiagia | you can then just wipe out that dir and everything is gone |
| 13:11.26 | shevy | well kde3 didnt require that |
| 13:11.39 | gkiagia | yeah, but kde3 was a mess anyway |
| 13:11.48 | gkiagia | and automake didn't support that too |
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| 13:13.10 | gkiagia | gionnico: maybe, but I don't have opengl support here (vesa video drivers) |
| 13:13.46 | gkiagia | theaman: yes it could be a bug in the cmake scripts, but don't report that in bugs.kde.org |
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| 13:15.08 | theaman | gkiagia: ah, okay, where should I report it? |
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| 13:16.30 | gkiagia | nowhere :P this software is still in development and it's normal to have bugs. if you find the bug in a released version, then report it |
| 13:19.20 | theaman | gkiagia: bwaa? hmm, that's ... different. I'm used to reporting bugs as I find them, released software or not. You KDE folks have a different method? |
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| 13:21.31 | gkiagia | no, but well, there have been many cmake issues recently and I just hope it's one of them |
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| 13:22.01 | gkiagia | well, ok, I guess you could report it... |
| 13:22.26 | gkiagia | somebody will close it later if it's not a real bug |
| 13:24.00 | theaman | okay. |
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| 13:26.18 | JeffATL | where is the color/style of the desktop icon labels controlled? |
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| 13:26.59 | homoludens | hi everyone: i've decided to switch from dolphin to konqueror (simply more functionality), but there is one big item i'm missing: the bookmarks bar on the left. that is, konqueror has navigation bar, but is there a good way to customize it? |
| 13:27.01 | gkiagia | JeffATL: kde3 or kde4 ? |
| 13:27.18 | Half-Left | thiago: I've reproduced a bug with Qt4 and Freesans fonts, it dont render proper big 0 and toolbars text underneath with kwrite |
| 13:27.59 | JeffATL | gkiagia: 3.5.9 |
| 13:28.46 | gkiagia | hm, I don't remember... |
| 13:30.02 | homoludens | ok, i get it, i just "add a folder", and then chose an icon to identify it, right? |
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| 13:30.29 | homoludens | there is no way to have the name of the folder displayed, is there? (right now, i only see the name when the folder ist activated ... ) |
| 13:30.40 | homoludens | also, can i change the order of the items on the navigation bar? |
| 13:30.50 | JeffATL | i've been going all thru control center but can't figure out how to change that...and i've done this several times before but there's always so much time in between :) |
| 13:31.18 | Half-Left | thiago: All toobars actually http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freesansqt4bugit1.png |
| 13:31.26 | Half-Left | toolbars* |
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| 13:32.43 | wishie | i want to start 'compiz' instead of kwin, from the get go.. ie (NOT load kwin, THEN load compiz). how can i tell KDE to use my 'startcompiz.sh' as the first priority ? |
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| 13:33.56 | Half-Left | wishie: systemssettings-->Advanced--->Session manager |
| 13:34.07 | Half-Left | systemsettings* |
| 13:34.38 | thiago | Half-Left: what? |
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| 13:35.01 | Half-Left | thiago: Did you see that image? |
| 13:35.05 | thiago | what image? |
| 13:35.10 | wishie | hmm, dont see how that will help.. my situation is as follows.. |
| 13:35.20 | Murray_B | Half-Left: I saw this, but there is only kwin in the dropdown-field, how can I add another one? I have xfce4 installed, too. |
| 13:35.24 | Half-Left | thiagohttp://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freesansqt4bugit1.png |
| 13:35.40 | Half-Left | wishie: It has a option to use compiz instead of kwin |
| 13:35.47 | wishie | i found some KDEWM env var, and set it to my startcompiz.sh script, but on a fresh boot of the system, that script gets run, and *so does* kwin |
| 13:35.59 | wishie | Half-Left: not in KDE3 it doesnt.. |
| 13:36.18 | Half-Left | Well you didn't say KDE3 |
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| 13:37.45 | Half-Left | Just make a file in autostart then and make it say compiz --replace |
| 13:37.50 | hunt0r | hi all |
| 13:38.19 | Murray_B | Hi hunt0r |
| 13:38.28 | Half-Left | Murray_B: Not sure |
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| 13:39.49 | Half-Left | thiago: You get that? |
| 13:39.54 | hunt0r | hi I have the problem that ark does not unpack any files... if I try to unpack it does nothing or it unpacks only the root folder of the archives but no files does anyone have the same problem? |
| 13:40.08 | Half-Left | Yep, bug |
| 13:42.23 | hunt0r | and in okular if I print something is that also a known bug that it also prints only the first page? |
| 13:42.55 | pinotree | probably fixed with kde 4.1.1 |
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| 13:44.07 | hunt0r | hm.. kk |
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| 13:45.40 | thiago | Half-Left: no, I'm not following at all. What does that have to do with me? |
| 13:45.54 | Half-Left | Qt4 bug? |
| 13:46.06 | thiago | not in any area of Qt that I cover |
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| 13:46.10 | thiago | so, again, what does that have to do with me? |
| 13:46.21 | Half-Left | Obviously nothing now |
| 13:47.01 | Half-Left | thiago: But i'm supposed to know what Qt stuff you do mind reading is something I can't do |
| 13:47.17 | thiago | right |
| 13:47.24 | thiago | so you should send the report to qt-bugs@trolltech.com :-) |
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| 13:49.03 | Half-Left | thiago: I thought you could do that being as I dont have a bug account there, if your not busy?, dont worry yourself if you can't |
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| 13:52.00 | thiago | you don't need a bug account |
| 13:52.04 | thiago | you just need to fill in the details |
| 13:54.24 | Half-Left | oh ok, good |
| 13:54.29 | homoludens | guys & gals: anyone here to help me customize konqueror's navigation bar? |
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| 13:56.03 | chrisinajar | So I have an app that, after certain actions, deletes and recreates a certain desktop icon.... The problem is that it happens really fast, and sometimes kdesktop appears to not notice that it's back... Is there a way to /force/ kdesktop to take a look at what is in the ~/Desktop folder and sync up it's icons (preferably with as little flickering or noticable reload to the end user as possible)? This is on KDE3, Gutsy Kubuntu... |
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| 13:59.16 | Patrykuss | Hi. |
| 13:59.27 | Patrykuss | How restart kde 4.0 from terminal? |
| 13:59.50 | thiago | from inside KDE 4? |
| 14:00.01 | Patrykuss | Yes |
| 14:00.04 | Half-Left | thiago: I should just send this with qt4 version and descriptions of the issue with images? |
| 14:00.09 | thiago | use qdbus on org.kde.ksmserver and ask for shutdown |
| 14:00.26 | thiago | Half-Left: with a code sample using Qt only, if possible |
| 14:00.46 | Half-Left | thiago: Code sample? |
| 14:00.49 | thiago | yes |
| 14:00.54 | Half-Left | Whats that? |
| 14:01.02 | thiago | a small, compileable example showing the error |
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| 14:02.05 | Half-Left | I wouldn't know how to show this error in code sample |
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| 14:02.19 | thiago | then the support engineer will have a hard time understanding the issue |
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| 14:07.08 | theaman | gkiagia: alright, took me a few, distractions and what not, but I've reported it: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169984 . Will that give enough context? |
| 14:08.15 | gkiagia | theaman: I think you should also have pasted the cmake error that was above that |
| 14:08.26 | theaman | gkiagia: I'm doing that as we speak |
| 14:09.25 | chrisinajar | any ideas on the kdesktop thing? |
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| 14:10.27 | theaman | gkiagia: done now |
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| 14:16.53 | theaman | alright, now I'm having problems building kdelibs. What am I missing now? http://rafb.net/p/Vntla811.html |
| 14:18.37 | iandeb | hi. My PC sometimes encouters the following problem: The PCM slider in Kmix 3.0 on KDE 4.1. is missing, although the sound system is configured properly |
| 14:18.45 | iandeb | Is this already known as bug? |
| 14:19.36 | gkiagia | theaman: use the standard directory paths suggested by the tutorial |
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| 14:19.57 | gkiagia | theaman: that is... ~/kde/src/ for sources and ~/kde/build for build data |
| 14:20.25 | theaman | gkiagia: uh, isn't that what's there? |
| 14:20.27 | gkiagia | oh, wait.. you used cs there |
| 14:20.56 | gkiagia | I see you use /kde as a prefix |
| 14:21.04 | gkiagia | so you may need to modify cmakekde |
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| 14:21.17 | gkiagia | it's a function in the bashrc |
| 14:21.22 | theaman | ah, blah, no that's a copy and paste error |
| 14:21.27 | theaman | that line should read /home/kde-devel/kde/build/kde/kdelibs |
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| 14:21.45 | theaman | when I *actually* run pwd |
| 14:21.53 | theaman | (as opposed to just copying my prompt) |
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| 14:23.04 | theaman | the only modification that I've made is to the 'make -j2' line -> 'make -j3' |
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| 14:23.32 | chrismat | How do you set systemwide default application for a filetype? |
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| 14:27.51 | gionnico | I didn't remember GTK was SO UGLY! I've just installed firefox3 in kde4 but it feel like a fish out of water |
| 14:28.07 | gionnico | is it possible to change the interface? |
| 14:28.11 | gionnico | is there a kde4 skin or something? |
| 14:28.24 | cga`work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:28.31 | cga`work | search it on addons |
| 14:28.45 | gionnico | aren't there themes for the whole gtk?? |
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| 14:29.42 | gionnico | KFirefox: theme for KDE 4 |
| 14:29.43 | cga`work | gionnico: gtk-qt-engine-kde4 on debian, dunnov other distro |
| 14:29.53 | gkiagia | gionnico: install the gtk-qt engine and use it to set a gtk theme |
| 14:30.11 | gionnico | yes i have that engine |
| 14:30.13 | gionnico | how does it work? |
| 14:30.20 | gionnico | i install it then gtk apps look like qt? |
| 14:30.24 | gkiagia | but my advice is, do not use the Qt gtk theme... use something else |
| 14:30.38 | gkiagia | gionnico: systemsettings->appearence->gtk |
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| 14:31.02 | theaman | gkiagia: no ideas on what I'm missing? |
| 14:31.10 | adamt | hi -- doesn't kde 4.1 have a notification daemon that supports libnotify? |
| 14:31.33 | gionnico | inotify I think |
| 14:32.04 | gkiagia | theaman: no, you are probably doing something wrong I guess |
| 14:32.13 | adamt | gionnico: inotify and libnotify doens't have much in common :-) |
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| 14:32.18 | theaman | chuckles |
| 14:32.29 | theaman | gkiagia: fair enough. fair enough. |
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| 14:33.20 | gionnico | I have gtk-engines-kde4 or gtk-kde4-theme or also gtk-engines-qt |
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| 14:33.44 | gkiagia | theaman: it complains that kdelibs should be built outside the source tree, which should automatically be done by cmakekde |
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| 14:34.31 | theaman | yeah. I just tried doing what it suggested, ( cb -> cmake .../src/kde/kdelibs ), same error |
| 14:35.51 | gkiagia | hm, maybe it's another one of those recent cmake issues? |
| 14:37.00 | theaman | gkiagia: oh noes. So how do I solve this then? |
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| 14:37.07 | theaman | or where do I go to get help? |
| 14:37.57 | gkiagia | is clueless |
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| 14:38.22 | theaman | bah! this is no good. *I'm* the kde noob, not you! jeez! |
| 14:38.29 | gkiagia | lol |
| 14:38.38 | ibilicki | I closed my Desktop... how do I bring it back? |
| 14:38.51 | gkiagia | ibilicki: which means? |
| 14:38.59 | ibilicki | also, how can I get the show desktop button? |
| 14:39.03 | gkiagia | what desktop? |
| 14:39.06 | gkiagia | kde3 or kde4? |
| 14:39.11 | ibilicki | i just installed kde4 |
| 14:39.14 | ibilicki | and am confused |
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| 14:39.26 | ibilicki | so that bubble which shows the files, I closed it |
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| 14:39.44 | gionnico | don't you know? "I have gtk-engines-kde4 or gtk-kde4-theme or also gtk-engines-qt" |
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| 14:39.50 | gionnico | which should I install? |
| 14:40.05 | bram85 | ibilicki: you should right click your desktop, Add Widgets, and add a Folder View |
| 14:40.17 | gkiagia | ibilicki: ok, right click->add widgets->folder view |
| 14:40.21 | gkiagia | bram85: :) |
| 14:40.25 | sfi | Hi |
| 14:40.31 | gkiagia | gionnico: gtk-engines-kde4 |
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| 14:40.45 | sfi | I cannot connect to google talk with kopete 0.50.80 (kde4.1) using kubuntu. If someone could help that would be appreciated. |
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| 14:41.29 | gkiagia | sfi: is there an error message? |
| 14:41.49 | sfi | no |
| 14:42.09 | sfi | I just keep trying to connect |
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| 14:42.40 | ibilicki | thanks... now... how can I make it fill up the whole screen? Also, what about a "show desktop" button... I guess in KDE4, it should be called "minimize all windeos" |
| 14:43.25 | sfi | What parameters should I use for google talk server ? there is 2 important : use SSL and use plain text password. What must be activated ? |
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| 14:44.40 | gkiagia | sfi: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en-ie&answer=57557 |
| 14:44.55 | sfi | let me check that thx |
| 14:46.39 | Half-Left | Another Nvidia beta driver release, KDE4 stuff in there as well http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118602 |
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| 14:48.54 | gionnico | I can't find GTK in appearence |
| 14:48.55 | lullideath | Half-Left: good news :D |
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| 14:49.24 | Half-Left | Lets see how it is |
| 14:51.10 | gionnico | i'll reboot |
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| 14:51.50 | sfi | gkiagia: I have this message now "SSL support could not be initialized for account seb256@gmail.com. This is most likely because the QCA TLS plugin is not installed on your system." |
| 14:52.28 | sfi | I have the qca-tls installed on my kubuntu |
| 14:52.34 | Half-Left | lullideath: Yer, atleast they are putting out beta releases fast for the issues |
| 14:52.45 | gkiagia | sfi: maybe not the right version |
| 14:53.07 | gkiagia | hmm.. no |
| 14:53.49 | lullideath | Half-Left, have you tried the beta driver yet? |
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| 14:54.24 | gkiagia | sfi: try libqca2 |
| 14:54.32 | gionnico | yes! the gtk engine kde4 loaded |
| 14:54.34 | sfi | kubuntu piss me off sometimes. qulity of this distrib is going down ... |
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| 14:54.42 | gionnico | thanks gkiagia |
| 14:54.45 | gkiagia | it was always down :P |
| 14:54.54 | gionnico | (I still need the qt4 theme) |
| 14:55.17 | gkiagia | sfi: it works fine here, though |
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| 14:55.46 | Half-Left | lullideath: Not yet, just waiting for something to finish compiling |
| 14:56.43 | lullideath | Half-Left, hehe, compiling something as well |
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| 14:56.58 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 14:57.30 | sfi | gkiagia: libqca2-plugin-ossl package must be installed instead of qca-tls ... |
| 14:57.37 | sfi | thax for your help |
| 14:57.39 | sfi | thx |
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| 15:02.01 | gionnico | i've got a strange problem: when a window appears or disappear (any type it can be) and I have Desktop Effects, all the screen blinks |
| 15:02.26 | gionnico | i thought I had resolved by setting VSync on but I evidently didn't |
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| 15:03.22 | gionnico | i've disabled vsync now and for example it's good |
| 15:03.34 | gionnico | but i think the next time i reboot it'll have the same problem |
| 15:03.35 | gionnico | again |
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| 15:03.57 | Bulwinkle | has anyone come up with a fix for the system tray not refreshing properly yet? |
| 15:04.43 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: you are talking about the problem with qt 4.4.1 ? |
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| 15:09.47 | Half-Left | wooho, new beta nvidia driver is much better |
| 15:09.53 | jazka | indeed |
| 15:10.06 | gionnico | Half-Left: hope it will be in the gentoo tree soon |
| 15:10.59 | jazka | resizing windows is faster too, but still laggy when the window is big tho |
| 15:11.42 | Half-Left | Now that is much faster, resizing a massive clock in ZUI |
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| 15:14.27 | FunctorSalad | hey, sorry, absolute kde programming noob here -- how would I go about listening for change of active window? |
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| 15:15.01 | gionnico | uhm.. for 8 series the nvidia driver version is 173.14.12 ? and 177* is only for 200???? |
| 15:15.16 | gionnico | 177.13 |
| 15:15.23 | FunctorSalad | (preferably the event should be sent to stdin of my program) |
| 15:15.40 | Half-Left | Plasma is better |
| 15:16.51 | jazka | gionnico: no |
| 15:17.11 | jazka | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118602 |
| 15:17.34 | lullideath | Half-Left, plasma is better after you installed the new nivida driver?? |
| 15:17.34 | gionnico | that website is strange |
| 15:17.41 | gionnico | so for GX200 177* is stable |
| 15:17.47 | gionnico | while for 8*** it isn't? |
| 15:17.49 | Half-Left | lullideath: Yep |
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| 15:17.59 | lullideath | Half-Left, cool |
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| 15:19.23 | gionnico | half-left: you've installed 177.13 or 177.70 ? |
| 15:19.33 | Half-Left | Kmail is smoother scrolling but resizing inside the window is not on par with the xorg nv driver still |
| 15:19.45 | Half-Left | gionnico: 177.70 |
| 15:20.15 | lilltiger | gionnico: 177xx isent stable for any gpu it's beta.. |
| 15:20.37 | lullideath | Half-Left, which KDE4 you are using right now?? 4.1 or 4.2?? |
| 15:20.44 | Half-Left | 4.1.1 |
| 15:20.45 | gionnico | ah will it "always" be beta? |
| 15:20.51 | jazka | no |
| 15:21.00 | gionnico | and when stabilizes become 173.* ? |
| 15:21.13 | lilltiger | no 178 or 180 |
| 15:21.32 | jazka | I don't think they go back in version numbers |
| 15:21.37 | jazka | from 177 to 173 |
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| 15:21.55 | lilltiger | 173 is the stable branch without the 2d render accel |
| 15:22.10 | Half-Left | Yer, 178 more lightly final |
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| 15:22.57 | lilltiger | more speaks for 180 actually, that they will include the opengl3 support as well |
| 15:23.02 | Half-Left | lilltiger: It has got 2d render accel but just dont use it in some areas for some reason |
| 15:23.21 | Half-Left | i.e drops to software render |
| 15:23.24 | gionnico | opengl3 cool! will kde4 use opengl3? |
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| 15:24.01 | lilltiger | Half-Left: for 8/9 series it has pretty much no 2d accel at all :) the little it have can be more seen as accidental :) |
| 15:24.32 | Half-Left | lilltiger: Yer terrible |
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| 15:24.39 | gionnico | lilltiger: but beta includes now also 2d accell for 8 serie? |
| 15:24.50 | Half-Left | yep |
| 15:24.55 | gionnico | why don't I see the 177.68? "Linux 64-bit Display Driver Version 177.67 BETA 177.67 19.8.2008" |
| 15:24.57 | lilltiger | gionnico: to some extend |
| 15:25.15 | jazka | gionnico: dunno, maybe because it had problems |
| 15:25.22 | jazka | but it was still on the forums |
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| 15:26.06 | Half-Left | Scroling is better in konqueror |
| 15:26.23 | Half-Left | smoother |
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| 15:26.50 | lilltiger | .68 is ok if not using vsync |
| 15:26.54 | gionnico | can you use adobe flash in konqueror? |
| 15:27.03 | lilltiger | imdownloading .70 now to try em out |
| 15:27.17 | jazka | gionnico: yes |
| 15:27.22 | Half-Left | Looks like nvidia decreased font rendering a little |
| 15:27.23 | gionnico | ah lilltiger: I was just playing with vsync settings because of some flickering problems while opening a new windos |
| 15:27.26 | gionnico | *window |
| 15:27.39 | gionnico | jazka: do ndis wrappers work for it, too? |
| 15:27.46 | jazka | ndiswrapper? |
| 15:27.49 | jazka | it's for wla |
| 15:27.50 | jazka | wlan |
| 15:27.58 | gionnico | uhm the 64 bit wrapper |
| 15:28.02 | lilltiger | gionnico: mmm, vsync is pretty much required for video.. |
| 15:28.21 | jazka | gionnico: works here, on 64-bit konq |
| 15:28.22 | Bulwinkle | gkiagia: I'm not sure what the problem stems from but it makes my systray's background black and my icons are screwey in KDE4 |
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| 15:28.37 | Half-Left | Yer it's much nicer to ahve Vsync on here |
| 15:28.41 | lilltiger | brb time for new drivers |
| 15:28.43 | Half-Left | have* |
| 15:28.55 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: it's fixed in svn, wait for kde 4.1.1 |
| 15:29.06 | Bulwinkle | gkiagia: awesome! Thanks! |
| 15:29.08 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: oh |
| 15:29.12 | jazka | with kdebase4-nsplugin and nspluginwrapper |
| 15:29.14 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: background you say? |
| 15:29.15 | jazka | on opensuse |
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| 15:29.22 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: so the icons don't disappear? |
| 15:29.49 | Bulwinkle | gkiagia: no, the background is black and the icons are there but aren't rendering properly |
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| 15:30.14 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: no, the background issue is another issue that may be fixed in 4.2, but well, it's a difficult bug |
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| 15:30.35 | gkiagia | Bulwinkle: the black background is there in purpose, to avoid crashes |
| 15:31.20 | Bulwinkle | gkiagia: okie... not a biggie. Just checking to make sure there is nothing I should be doing about it. |
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| 15:38.28 | lilltiger | 177.70 seems very smooth |
| 15:38.57 | lullideath | all the good feedback from 177.70 huh?? :] |
| 15:39.29 | lilltiger | well still peaks when using vsync but not at all as bad as erlier |
| 15:39.46 | Half-Left | lilltiger: Turn glib off in Qt |
| 15:39.59 | lilltiger | Half-Left: dont that already |
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| 15:40.18 | Half-Left | mine dont CPU peak anymore now |
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| 15:41.20 | Half-Left | Hope they fix the wobbley wrong shadow on the wobbley window option and then it will be just about perfect :) |
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| 15:45.23 | _Poseidon_ | Hello |
| 15:45.35 | _Poseidon_ | I have a problem, |
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| 15:47.14 | MetaMorfoziS | hi all, how can i start an app from cli as root in the name and in the permissions of an another user? |
| 15:47.32 | MetaMorfoziS | now i'm using su - $user -c "command" |
| 15:47.36 | tuxick | good |
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| 15:47.39 | lilltiger | kdesu |
| 15:47.52 | MetaMorfoziS | but this confuses gtk apps |
| 15:47.59 | _Poseidon_ | Cuando cierro sesión en KDE mata todos los procesos, incluso los que abràcon nohup y no quiero que se cierren. |
| 15:48.01 | gionnico | Half-Left: did you follow this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088 |
| 15:48.06 | MetaMorfoziS | so they didn't get the current theme and font settings |
| 15:48.14 | gionnico | you said the new driver 177.68 improved the performance but not so much |
| 15:48.19 | MetaMorfoziS | lilltiger > kdesu does the inverse what i want |
| 15:48.24 | Half-Left | gionnico: Yep |
| 15:48.40 | lilltiger | MetaMorfoziS: i beg to differ |
| 15:48.52 | _Poseidon_ | When I logout from kde, it kills all process that started, even the ones that I've open by nohup, and I don't want they get killed. |
| 15:49.02 | Half-Left | gionnico: I said in 177.70 does quiet alot |
| 15:49.08 | MetaMorfoziS | lilltiger > i don't understand your last line, please explain it more. |
| 15:49.19 | gionnico | ;) ok. i'm gonna install this beta (I was 173.14.12 until now) |
| 15:49.28 | lilltiger | MetaMorfoziS: read the help about kdesu |
| 15:49.31 | gionnico | and hope the mantainer soon adds 177.70 |
| 15:49.41 | gionnico | now I'm unmasked to nvidia-drivers :) |
| 15:50.06 | Half-Left | Why dont you just do it manually |
| 15:50.29 | gionnico | .. |
| 15:50.32 | gionnico | you convinced me |
| 15:50.34 | gionnico | xD |
| 15:50.37 | lilltiger | Half-Left: some distros goes insane if doing it manually ;D |
| 15:50.52 | gionnico | "manually" means I just change the path in the ebuild |
| 15:51.04 | gionnico | not that I download the tar and do it alone |
| 15:51.07 | Half-Left | lilltiger: Ubuntu yer but you remove their packages, I install manually |
| 15:51.26 | lilltiger | im using arch and nvidia own installer :) |
| 15:52.05 | Half-Left | gionnico: I mean the nvidia installer sh script, you just run it |
| 15:53.00 | Half-Left | All you need is your kernelsource and make tools, it removes the older driver and any conficting files and updates your xorg if you want |
| 15:53.28 | gionnico | Half-Left : I'd rather to keep the system informed about the new version |
| 15:53.31 | Half-Left | kernheaders on some |
| 15:53.38 | lilltiger | well i think it's better to edit the ebuild |
| 15:53.43 | gionnico | me too |
| 15:53.52 | gionnico | (i'll actually make my overlay :) ) |
| 15:54.15 | lullideath | gionnico, will you check the msg i just sent you?? |
| 15:54.24 | Half-Left | You can even get the new driver by running the old on with update |
| 15:54.54 | lilltiger | Half-Left: that dosent work for me.. it tried to fetch and install 173 then :( |
| 15:54.54 | Half-Left | nvidia-installer --update |
| 15:55.04 | Half-Left | ahhh beta |
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| 15:55.17 | Half-Left | yer it dont get the beta I think |
| 15:55.23 | lilltiger | mmm |
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| 15:56.10 | lilltiger | damn the random in picture frame seems totaly borked |
| 15:56.28 | lilltiger | i bet he is using the same seed.. bah n0bs :) |
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| 15:58.32 | lilltiger | is 4.1.1 any nice? althught i dont think i can update yet |
| 15:59.00 | gionnico | I wonder: are 4.1.* only bugfix releases to 4.1? |
| 15:59.10 | gionnico | and are those integrated in trunk also? |
| 15:59.27 | fde | gionnico: yes, that is generally how kde release version conventions work... |
| 15:59.29 | Half-Left | KDEgames are smoother as well with this driver |
| 15:59.42 | lullideath | hehe |
| 15:59.54 | gionnico | i'm digesting the ebuild |
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| 16:00.13 | gionnico | alright it's ready |
| 16:00.24 | Half-Left | gionnico: Just bug fixes, no features |
| 16:01.31 | gionnico | ok |
| 16:01.35 | gionnico | done with 177.70 drivers |
| 16:02.16 | fde | gionnico: Why are you telling #kde about video drivers and distro packages? |
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| 16:02.35 | Half-Left | I just ran WINE with kWIN desktop effects on and IPP=2, no text corruption :) |
| 16:03.01 | gionnico | because Half-Left can help me, fde |
| 16:03.17 | fde | gionnico: take it to private or #gentoo imo |
| 16:03.28 | gionnico | can I query you half-left? |
| 16:03.40 | Half-Left | sure |
| 16:04.01 | Half-Left | But should be KDE related :) |
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| 16:06.07 | fde | Half-Left: topic states: Distro related questions go in your distro channel ... ie, it's not KDE related until it's compiled unless you're building from kde source packages... |
| 16:06.37 | Half-Left | fde: I'm not talking to anyone about distro packages |
| 16:07.09 | fde | Half-Left: He was discussing ebuilds and drivers *shrug* |
| 16:07.12 | Half-Left | fde: We are talk about how the new beta nvidia driver affects KDE4 |
| 16:07.17 | gionnico | i just wrote ebuild here. it should be a badword if i can't say it |
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| 16:07.38 | Half-Left | fde: He was talking about ebuilds not me |
| 16:07.54 | fde | Half-Left: And my original statement was directed at him ;) |
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| 16:08.07 | Half-Left | Right |
| 16:08.32 | gionnico | bbs |
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| 16:10.04 | sharp15 | in kde-3.5.9 how do i disable the label boxes that materialize when the mouse hovers over taskbar entries? |
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| 16:10.51 | bgmiki | kwin looks very bad |
| 16:11.15 | pinotree | sharp15: right click on the panel → configure panel → look → [ ] enable tooltips |
| 16:13.15 | sharp15 | pinotree: "look" ? no such entry. "Enable icon mouseover effects" on the Appearance tab got it though. thank you. |
| 16:13.36 | pinotree | sharp15: "look" is the page in the panel config dialog |
| 16:13.56 | sharp15 | pinotree: i don't have a page labled that. |
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| 16:17.23 | Dodek | hello |
| 16:17.38 | Dodek | i was wondering if there is some kind of introduction to kde development |
| 16:18.59 | Half-Left | Dodek: http://techbase.kde.org/Welcome_to_KDE_TechBase |
| 16:19.56 | Dodek | thank you |
| 16:21.02 | Dodek | and where c |
| 16:21.10 | Dodek | can i send patches? |
| 16:21.27 | Dodek | sorry for multitple lines, i'm not yet used to new keyboard. |
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| 16:48.59 | gionnico | hi |
| 16:49.07 | gionnico | i've installed kvirc on kde trunk |
| 16:49.13 | gionnico | i can start it with the console |
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| 16:49.22 | gionnico | but i can not using the K button |
| 16:50.15 | gionnico | it tries to start then gives up after a while |
| 16:50.44 | gionnico | is someone here? |
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| 16:59.11 | brain0 | okay, something is definitely wrong with kde. my X server is now using 567MB RAM ... it did use quite a log of memory with compiz sometimes, but never that much |
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| 16:59.49 | gionnico | 345MB here |
| 17:00.01 | gionnico | total system ram usage |
| 17:00.27 | brain0 | not, total, only the X server |
| 17:00.36 | brain0 | and I started it like 3 hours ago |
| 17:00.40 | gionnico | kde4? |
| 17:00.41 | brain0 | okay, maybe 4 or 5 hours |
| 17:00.43 | brain0 | yeah |
| 17:00.48 | gionnico | seems alot |
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| 17:00.53 | brain0 | it IS a lot |
| 17:00.54 | funkyou | brain0: check with xrestop |
| 17:01.10 | brain0 | hmm, don't have that |
| 17:01.18 | funkyou | its in the repos :) |
| 17:01.18 | gionnico | me neither |
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| 17:01.30 | brain0 | found it |
| 17:02.16 | alediaferia | for me firefox uses more memory than X |
| 17:02.19 | cuci | is there any way to setup my multimedia keys in kde4 ? |
| 17:02.30 | brain0 | funkyou: hmm, has a broken library, I will need a minute. what does this show me? |
| 17:02.49 | cuci | I tried from input actions but it doesn't recognize my next keu |
| 17:02.56 | cuci | s/keu/key |
| 17:03.09 | funkyou | brain0: it shows all X clients and their mem usage |
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| 17:03.37 | brain0 | cool |
| 17:03.50 | brain0 | well, doesn't help me though |
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| 17:05.10 | gionnico | kvirc it crashed |
| 17:05.44 | gionnico | do you know how to change links in "application launcher" applet |
| 17:05.45 | gionnico | ? |
| 17:08.01 | brain0 | funkyou: according to xrestop, it's only 37MB |
| 17:08.14 | brain0 | total |
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| 17:11.48 | funkyou | brain0: it could be a driver issue or just some caching stuff going on... some drivers (like ATI) use the system ram for caching pixmaps and stuff... |
| 17:13.57 | brain0 | funkyou: this is intel here |
| 17:14.03 | brain0 | no matter what the cause, this is insane |
| 17:14.15 | brain0 | even with compiz, I only had 200MB of memory usage after DAYS |
| 17:14.20 | brain0 | now I get 500MB within hours |
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| 17:16.54 | funkyou | brain0: if you use composite, check if the kwin process eats your ram with xrestop (had a similar problem with beryl some long ago)... if it does, ist most probably a kwin bug...if it doesnt, it may be a driver issue or even a feature |
| 17:17.13 | brain0 | a feature that eats all my memory, thank you! |
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| 17:20.34 | boom1992 | brain0: 1st test and then complain :P |
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| 17:20.46 | brain0 | I am |
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| 17:24.30 | Cha0tix | Hello all! |
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| 17:24.32 | Rasi | hi |
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| 17:24.37 | Rasi | i just had something scary |
| 17:24.42 | Rasi | i had a split rar archive |
| 17:24.44 | theaman | as some new folks have entered the room, I'll ask again (few hours later): Attempting to follow the instructions at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 , I'm having some problems. |
| 17:24.54 | Rasi | opened the folder in dolphin and hit f4 to open the terminal |
| 17:25.02 | theaman | specifically, I'm getting this error, and it's not even attempting to build: http://rafb.net/p/kdCCoP28.html |
| 17:25.11 | theaman | anyone have any ideas? |
| 17:25.14 | Rasi | i start extracting with unrar x filename.rar and then i browse around in dolphin |
| 17:25.29 | Rasi | well... suddenly the output complaints about the files not being there |
| 17:25.33 | Cha0tix | Is someone succeeded to use Flash plugin with Konqueror |
| 17:25.34 | Rasi | and really: they disappeared |
| 17:25.43 | Rasi | Cha0tix: works fine |
| 17:25.44 | jazka | Cha0tix: yes |
| 17:25.48 | Rasi | 64bit nspluginwrapper here |
| 17:25.52 | Cha0tix | which method did you use? |
| 17:25.56 | jazka | same as Rasi |
| 17:25.58 | Cha0tix | I used the kmplayer |
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| 17:26.10 | Cha0tix | method |
| 17:26.14 | Cha0tix | I'm in 32 bits. |
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| 17:26.34 | sluckz | is there a way to use plasmoid launcher with a pc X server like hummingbird or xming? |
| 17:26.52 | gionnico | why don't the application launcher kvirc icon work? |
| 17:27.15 | gionnico | and how can I change the path to kvirc in the menu? |
| 17:28.10 | Cha0tix | Do you know if nvidia improve kde compatibility? |
| 17:28.25 | gionnico | Cha0tix: it did in 177.68 |
| 17:28.27 | Cha0tix | i used the last beta driver but it still freezes sometime with my laptop |
| 17:28.29 | gionnico | and 177.70 |
| 17:28.45 | Cha0tix | NVS135M, not a really good chipset but should work |
| 17:28.48 | Cha0tix | no problem with compiz |
| 17:29.04 | gionnico | if it freezes .. have you tried to change xorg.conf |
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| 17:29.14 | gionnico | with the Option "UseEvents" "false" ? |
| 17:29.22 | Cha0tix | no didn't know this one |
| 17:29.28 | Cha0tix | what is the purpose of this option? |
| 17:29.47 | gionnico | i read that events can cause freeze sometimes |
| 17:29.50 | gionnico | it was about compiz |
| 17:29.53 | gionnico | but who knows .. |
| 17:30.02 | gionnico | the composite is the same |
| 17:30.33 | Cha0tix | does it freeze on your computer? |
| 17:30.46 | gionnico | no it doesn't |
| 17:30.56 | Cha0tix | How lucky you are |
| 17:31.16 | gionnico | mine isn't a laptop |
| 17:31.20 | gionnico | things get easier |
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| 17:32.06 | Cha0tix | yep I think so |
| 17:32.14 | gionnico | i have the news ticker plasmoid. how can I tell it the default browser? |
| 17:32.19 | Cha0tix | but I play on my desktop computer and can't use Linux at the moment |
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| 17:32.24 | mdeanda | Cha0tix: you still having problems with flash plugin on konq? i found that latest version crashes every single time. is this the problem you have? if you can find the .48 release, that works. but i still have kde 3.5.x so it may differ |
| 17:32.27 | gionnico | i also play |
| 17:32.30 | gionnico | vista+gentoo |
| 17:32.45 | Cha0tix | my laptop is linux only because i work on it |
| 17:32.54 | Cha0tix | and my desktop works under xp |
| 17:33.05 | Cha0tix | mdeanda: Some flash sites doesn't work, as www.deezer.com for example |
| 17:33.57 | mdeanda | seems to work for me. what version of flash do you have? how does it not work? |
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| 17:34.28 | Cha0tix | it works with firefox |
| 17:34.33 | Cha0tix | and i use the same flash version |
| 17:34.36 | mdeanda | Cha0tix: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ |
| 17:34.59 | mdeanda | Cha0tix: i have 9.0.21.78 on this machine. at work i have 9.x.x.48 |
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| 17:35.09 | Cha0tix | on this site it works |
| 17:35.22 | mdeanda | Cha0tix: does firefox and konq have the same flash plugin? |
| 17:35.33 | Cha0tix | yep |
| 17:35.35 | Cha0tix | i use the sam |
| 17:35.42 | Cha0tix | konqueror use kmplayer with flashplugin |
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| 17:36.16 | Cha0tix | I used this method : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flash_and_Adobe_Acrobat_browser_plugins#Fixing_Flash_in_Konqueror |
| 17:37.27 | mdeanda | wait, so for you its actually embedding kmplayer with an embedded flash player into konq? instead of just the flash player? |
| 17:38.40 | Cha0tix | yep |
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| 17:39.22 | mdeanda | Cha0tix: i've never dealt with that. what does kmplayer try to fix with this method? |
| 17:40.02 | Cha0tix | a minute please |
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| 17:50.21 | Cha0tix | mdeanda: sorry |
| 17:50.27 | Cha0tix | i was on phone |
| 17:50.40 | Cha0tix | how did you install flash on konqueror? |
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| 18:14.31 | Cha0tix | Kde is slow |
| 18:14.36 | Cha0tix | i don't know what to do |
| 18:14.45 | Cha0tix | i tried everything but if i activate composite |
| 18:14.51 | Cha0tix | it freezes when moving windows... |
| 18:14.57 | Cha0tix | it depends |
| 18:15.04 | Cha0tix | sometimes it works perfect but sometimes... |
| 18:15.47 | Cha0tix | if anyone has tips for laptops (C2D T7500, nVidia NVS 135M) to run it better with composite. |
| 18:16.53 | jthomas | is there a specific KDE4 package that I need for the mouse to work?? |
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| 18:18.11 | aseigo | jthomas: the mouse? |
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| 18:18.36 | aseigo | Cha0tix: nvidia ... |
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| 18:19.14 | aseigo | Cha0tix: they have drivers in beta that pretty well fix these issues (currently you still need to do some tweaking of xorg.conf, but that's supposedly just because of the beta status) |
| 18:19.18 | jthomas | yes, i installed the Debian Lenny KDE4.1 packages on my EeePC and now the mouse doens't move... rebooting now to see if an external mouse works... but it seems that my NIC is down also?? |
| 18:19.41 | jthomas | yes an external mouse works fine |
| 18:19.51 | jthomas | and the mousepad worked in kde 3.5.9 fine before.. |
| 18:19.58 | aseigo | jthomas: kde has nothing to do with either network control (other than giving you access to information and a control UI) nor the mouse... |
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| 18:20.04 | aseigo | that's an x.org thing (it handles input) |
| 18:20.05 | jthomas | thats what i thought |
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| 18:20.09 | jthomas | hmm |
| 18:20.33 | aseigo | so plausibly there are issues with the debian packages that are dependencies for the 4.1 packages they offer |
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| 18:22.05 | Cha0tix | i am under 177.68 |
| 18:22.48 | jazka | Cha0tix: update to 177.70 |
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| 18:23.06 | Cha0tix | beta version? |
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| 18:23.41 | funkyou | 177.70 is a bit better, but its still nothing against ATI or Intel, especially scrolling in dolphin... (7600GT here) |
| 18:23.58 | jazka | funkyou: how's the window resizing with ati/intel= |
| 18:24.10 | Cha0tix | I took nvs 135M on my laptop to get better performance than an intel chipset |
| 18:24.11 | Cha0tix | lol |
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| 18:25.19 | gkiagia | jthomas: ask in #debian :) |
| 18:25.36 | funkyou | jazka: resizing on nvidia is fast enough for me, with or without composite... but i can tell you that the old i915 in our notebook still feels like 10x faster as my 7600GT, especially scrolling which is awfully slow here |
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| 18:26.15 | jthomas | i have gkiagia but all the experts are off today or something :) thanks guys, so far KDE4 looks amazing! |
| 18:26.17 | jazka | funkyou: even if the window is big? it's not lagging when resizing? |
| 18:26.35 | gkiagia | #debian is dead?? :O |
| 18:26.52 | jthomas | Is there anything I can to to make it a bit less on the RAM or CPU? The EeePC is lowpower and logging in gives me a load avg of like 3.5... |
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| 18:27.15 | gkiagia | jthomas: did you install the packages from backports? |
| 18:27.21 | jthomas | yeah |
| 18:27.32 | jthomas | well... |
| 18:27.40 | funkyou | jazka: well, without composite its very fast... with composite its still fast enough, but not perfect (and if you put the system under load, it gets a lot slower) |
| 18:27.52 | jthomas | from "deb http://kde4.debian.net/ lenny main" per http://kde4.debian.net/ |
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| 18:28.30 | jazka | funkyou: hmm it's very laggy here |
| 18:28.34 | jazka | 7300GT |
| 18:28.45 | Cha0tix | yeah same here funkyou |
| 18:28.45 | jazka | small windows are ok |
| 18:28.53 | Cha0tix | when i put system under load |
| 18:28.59 | Cha0tix | it becomes really hard |
| 18:29.30 | Cha0tix | It's a bit strange that Conky/Compiz works perfectly but not kwin |
| 18:29.36 | funkyou | can someone test this for me? open dolphin, go to /usr/bin, let it cache the contents, then scroll a bit around... its very laggy and slow here, and i would like to know if people with non-nvidia hardware experience the same |
| 18:29.39 | Cha0tix | as it uses the same composite renderer |
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| 18:30.55 | funkyou | also, when under load, dolphin seems to repaint/reload/whatever the icons in the list for every scroll "step" |
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| 18:37.11 | tuxick | anyone with konquerer please check how it reacts on https://www.cacert.org ? |
| 18:37.25 | tuxick | at least one thing is screwy there :) |
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| 18:41.31 | aseigo | tuxick: react in what way? e.g. what's wrong exactly? |
| 18:41.42 | aseigo | funkyou: what version of dolphin? |
| 18:41.55 | tuxick | well it was giving me "an error occured connecting" |
| 18:42.01 | tuxick | without explaining what error |
| 18:42.06 | tuxick | which IMO is a bug |
| 18:42.07 | aseigo | funkyou: because some rather massive performance improvements went into the version in 4.1 when it comes to scrolling and getting thumbnails |
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| 18:42.17 | funkyou | aseigo: from the 4.1 branch, checkout from around 3 days ago |
| 18:42.20 | aseigo | tuxick: it works here.. (and it may not know what the error is) |
| 18:42.42 | tuxick | ye i found the config option |
| 18:42.51 | aseigo | funkyou: i don't think it's reloading icons (unless they don't already exist in its cache), and afaik it's only repainting what is needed |
| 18:42.54 | tuxick | aseigo: "an error" is silly |
| 18:42.57 | funkyou | aseigo: it happens only in the detailed view, standard icon view is very fast and speedy |
| 18:43.46 | aseigo | tuxick: unless it's ambiguous or so technical as to be ambiguous compared to the unknown error |
| 18:44.04 | funkyou | when scrolling i see a white generic icon at first, which will be replaced then... happens mostly under load and is not noticeable without any load |
| 18:44.07 | aseigo | "While performing the three step TCP handshake, the server did not respond with a valid packet." |
| 18:44.30 | aseigo | funkyou: and if you scroll that icon out and back in? |
| 18:45.04 | aseigo | funkyou: it does delayed loading of icons, but the reason for that is probably obvious ... it shouldn't be constantly reloading the same icons unless they go sufficiently out of visual scope (again, for what's probably fairly evident reasons) |
| 18:45.32 | aseigo | funkyou: but if it is losing icons that scroll, say, one row out and then back in again that's probably improvable |
| 18:46.17 | funkyou | aseigo: when i scroll, it repaints all icons in the view for every "step" (scrolling is a bit jerky here, could be nvidia)... i'll try to make a video of it now :) |
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| 18:48.52 | tuxick | aseigo: well it was SSL/crypto related :) |
| 18:49.03 | aseigo | funkyou: are you using the new beta nvidia drivers with the necessary xorg.conf tweaks? if not .. well .. it's not going to be useful for us =/ |
| 18:49.44 | funkyou | aseigo: yes, using the latest ones (177.70) with the tweaks |
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| 18:54.27 | Phlogi | I've installed lancelot, when I click on the symbol just nothing happens, its kde trunk, any idea? |
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| 19:02.50 | kriko | How to query last my feature reports on bugs.kde.org? I'm stuck sending a feature report about minutes, I don't know if I should retry |
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| 19:04.32 | kriko | hah, database error :( |
| 19:04.43 | luna1 | Phlogi: : same for me :) |
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| 19:06.00 | kriko | bugs.kde.org is down |
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| 19:06.05 | kriko | anyone can check it? |
| 19:06.14 | Jampiter | Hi, I have a problem with KDE4 |
| 19:06.24 | Jampiter | I'm using Kubuntu, which ships with KDE3 |
| 19:06.39 | Jampiter | I've installed 4, but for some reason it uses the KDE3 window borders |
| 19:06.45 | Jampiter | How do I remedy this? |
| 19:07.03 | kriko | Jampiter: have you installed kwin4 package, if ubuntu splits them? |
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| 19:07.36 | Jampiter | ... I don't know |
| 19:07.40 | luna1 | kriko: it works here |
| 19:07.50 | Jampiter | I just put a command into apt-get and it automated the process |
| 19:08.37 | kriko | luna1: yes, it is up again |
| 19:08.41 | kriko | people: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170004 |
| 19:09.38 | Jampiter | Anyone? |
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| 19:14.57 | gkiagia | kriko, Jampiter: kwin4 is a kde3 game :) |
| 19:15.07 | funkyou | aseigo: i catched it on video :) now uploading... |
| 19:15.14 | kriko | gkiagia: really? |
| 19:15.21 | kriko | wasn't kwin kde3 win deco? |
| 19:15.27 | gkiagia | kwin is called kde-window-manager in debian |
| 19:15.31 | kriko | I assumed now it's kwin4 |
| 19:15.38 | gkiagia | kriko: yes, kwin is the window manager |
| 19:15.49 | gkiagia | but kwin4 refers to a kde3 game too |
| 19:16.10 | gkiagia | so we have to say kwin version 4, to distinguish them |
| 19:16.31 | gkiagia | apt-get install kwin4 will just install that game |
| 19:16.50 | gkiagia | Jampiter: install kde-window-manager |
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| 19:29.40 | kriko | new nvidia beta driver: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118602 |
| 19:29.44 | kriko | anyone tested yet? |
| 19:30.48 | fde | kriko: ##nvidia |
| 19:31.06 | kriko | right! |
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| 19:36.33 | sourcemaker | konqi is crashing everytime... I open a flash page |
| 19:36.40 | Ramblurr | when I login via KDM, KDM quits to console and I have to login there even though I have selected a KDE session in kdm |
| 19:36.43 | Ramblurr | if I do a dpkg-reconfigure then reboot it will work, but only for 1 login, then it starts quitting to console again |
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| 19:38.48 | gkiagia | sourcemaker: complain to adobe |
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| 19:39.02 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: ok... :-) |
| 19:39.11 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: it's there a adobe flash replacement? |
| 19:39.20 | gkiagia | there is gnash |
| 19:39.31 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: why not using gnash? |
| 19:39.34 | luna1 | is crappy too :D |
| 19:39.51 | gkiagia | but it doesn't work in konqueror 4.x and it doesn't work good with most flash animations |
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| 19:40.20 | picca | does flashplayer 10 work with konqueror 3.5 or do i need firefox |
| 19:41.02 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: ok... but flash has been working well for the last kde 3.xxx versions... now using 4.1.... NOT |
| 19:41.07 | brain0 | I've seen flashplayer 10 work with nspluginwrapper in konqueror on kde 3.5 |
| 19:41.12 | brain0 | never tried 4.1 |
| 19:41.23 | gkiagia | sourcemaker: what flash version? |
| 19:41.43 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: how can I determine the flash version? |
| 19:41.47 | gkiagia | it works in 4.1 too, but it's not very stable... |
| 19:41.50 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: is there a apt command? |
| 19:43.10 | gkiagia | I don't think so |
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| 19:43.43 | knusperfrosch | hi! |
| 19:44.06 | gkiagia | sourcemaker: try this http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15507 |
| 19:44.12 | wilsonsamm | Hello knusperfrosch! |
| 19:44.22 | Ramblurr | ..oh and if i startx after logging in via console KDE works fine, so it shouldnt be a drivers issue |
| 19:44.24 | knusperfrosch | anyone using kde-3.5.10 with two kicker controll bars? can't find out how to configure the second one |
| 19:45.51 | wilsonsamm | knusperfroch, you mean the panels? |
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| 19:46.16 | wilsonsamm | knusperfrosch, you mean the panels? |
| 19:46.34 | knusperfrosch | wilsonsamm: could be, but i've no ide since i'm not using the default language pack |
| 19:46.42 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: 9.0.124.0ubuntu2 = LNX 8,0,99,0 |
| 19:47.13 | knusperfrosch | wilsonsamm: i'm talking about some container where i can put some mini programms. just like the default kicker |
| 19:47.21 | knusperfrosch | wilsonsamm: i just want two of them ;) |
| 19:47.34 | gkiagia | sourcemaker: ???? the package is 9.0.124 and the actual version is 8.0.99 ?? |
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| 19:48.05 | gkiagia | sourcemaker: reinstall that package or ask your distro |
| 19:48.13 | sourcemaker | gkiagia: ok :-) |
| 19:48.24 | wilsonsamm | knusperfrosch. I have one one each xinerama screen. just choose from the panel menu "add new panel" and then choose "panel" from that submenu |
| 19:49.12 | wilsonsamm | did you find it? |
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| 19:49.31 | knusperfrosch | jup i have two of them but the configuration is just about the first one |
| 19:49.41 | knusperfrosch | that's why i can't configure it's height |
| 19:49.59 | knusperfrosch | the second ones height.. |
| 19:51.26 | wilsonsamm | knusperfrosch: at the top of the configuration screent here should say something like "configuration for: " and you choose there from a menu which panel you want to configure |
| 19:52.25 | knusperfrosch | wilsonsamm: that's what i'm used to from older 3.5.x releases but can't find/see that in 3.5.10 |
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| 19:53.30 | wilsonsamm | oh I'm still on 3.5.9. it surprises me that they should have removed it! |
| 19:53.56 | knusperfrosch | well kicker was one of the few apps that had some changes |
| 19:54.12 | wilsonsamm | have you tried launching the configuration thing from the other panel? |
| 19:54.41 | knusperfrosch | sure |
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| 19:55.51 | wilsonsamm | hmm. I don't know... I thought they weren't making any more changes to KDE 3.5 anyway |
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| 19:57.16 | sharp15 | is it possible to controll what interface/ip kdm listens on for xdmcp connections? (kde-3.5.9 |
| 19:57.19 | sharp15 | ) |
| 19:59.16 | knusperfrosch | wilsonsamm: fortunately i've sill my 3.5.9 configuration, i'll just copy it |
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| 19:59.44 | wilsonsamm | knusperfrosch: devious :-) |
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| 20:02.21 | JordanC | Ahoy there folks :D |
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| 20:05.41 | wilsonsamm | hello JordanC |
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| 20:05.54 | sharp15 | also where is the control that allows kdesu to use sudo as it's backend? |
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| 20:09.35 | yao_ziyuan | i just made a guifications theme for kde4.1 oxygen: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2080968&group_id=92888&atid=676821 |
| 20:09.49 | YippMN | i'm installing kubuntu on a friends machine and trying to get kppp working and can't seem to get kppp to query the modem, and have tried /dev/ttys0 -3 and i think the modem is on com 3 wich should be ttys2? or is there something i should do to get this working? |
| 20:10.01 | yao_ziyuan | here is a screenshot: http://s4.tinypic.com/2qxta93.jpg |
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| 20:11.15 | yao_ziyuan | strongly recommended for pidgin+kde4.1 users! |
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| 20:11.40 | gkiagia | uses kmess + kopete |
| 20:12.04 | yao_ziyuan | pidgin, firefox, thunderbird are like standards for years |
| 20:13.18 | gkiagia | but they are all gtk apps... and I hate gtk :) |
| 20:13.53 | yao_ziyuan | gkiagia: i simply use gtk-qt-engine-kde4 to make them look like kde |
| 20:14.04 | thiago_home | yao_ziyuan: Kopete, Konqueror, KMail |
| 20:14.07 | thiago_home | they have been standards for years |
| 20:14.13 | yao_ziyuan | ... |
| 20:14.21 | picca | mine modem is on /dev/ttySL0 |
| 20:14.35 | gkiagia | they may look like kde, but they do not behave like kde... and they take up tons of memory... |
| 20:14.52 | gkiagia | ok, I have to stop before a flamewar starts :P |
| 20:16.30 | yao_ziyuan | if qt is the widely adopted standard, |
| 20:16.50 | thiago_home | it is, in any KDE desktop anyways |
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| 20:16.59 | yao_ziyuan | why do realplayer for linux, adobe reader for linux, mozilla, ... all use gtk... |
| 20:17.14 | thiago_home | and why does Skype use Qt? |
| 20:17.19 | gkiagia | because they don't want to pay for a qt licence? |
| 20:17.20 | thiago_home | and Google Earth for Linux use Qt? |
| 20:17.29 | thiago_home | yao_ziyuan: if you answer mine, I'll answer yours. |
| 20:17.51 | yao_ziyuan | google earth for linux ... i thought it uses java |
| 20:17.56 | thiago_home | Qt |
| 20:17.56 | yao_ziyuan | skype, i never used it |
| 20:18.01 | thiago_home | one more: Opera |
| 20:18.15 | thiago_home | I'm not asking you if you have used it. |
| 20:18.26 | thiago_home | I'm asking you why some companies choose one thing and some others choose another. |
| 20:18.31 | thiago_home | can you answer that question? |
| 20:19.11 | Thundercloud_ | Google Earth uses Qt |
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| 20:19.25 | yao_ziyuan | what about x? |
| 20:19.33 | yao_ziyuan | if i develop apps for x, |
| 20:19.35 | Thundercloud_ | wtf |
| 20:19.38 | Thundercloud_ | Oh right |
| 20:19.42 | yao_ziyuan | both gnome and kde will treat them as native? |
| 20:19.53 | Thundercloud_ | *shrugs* |
| 20:20.01 | Thundercloud_ | Not relaly |
| 20:20.02 | Thundercloud_ | s/ really |
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| 20:20.13 | drantin | what, not using a toolkit? |
| 20:20.17 | thiago_home | yao_ziyuan: your question doesn't make sense. |
| 20:20.26 | yao_ziyuan | at least, both gnome and kde will skin x apps with their respective styles |
| 20:20.27 | thiago_home | KDE and GNOME are X desktop environments |
| 20:20.35 | thiago_home | all KDE and all GNOME applications are X applications |
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| 20:20.57 | thiago_home | your application will look like what you made your application look like. |
| 20:21.06 | yao_ziyuan | ah |
| 20:21.11 | yao_ziyuan | i begin to understand now |
| 20:21.39 | yao_ziyuan | if i develop a native x app, it would look like totally custom drawn |
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| 20:21.54 | thiago_home | yes |
| 20:21.59 | thiago_home | no one uses direct X |
| 20:22.05 | gkiagia | no, it would look like crap |
| 20:22.07 | thiago_home | no one has done that for 15 years |
| 20:22.20 | thiago_home | and for a decade they haven't used Xt or Motif |
| 20:22.48 | drantin | you could try wxWidgets |
| 20:22.54 | thiago_home | there are two major toolkits for X (Qt and GTK), but they are by no means the only ones |
| 20:22.55 | yao_ziyuan | at least, as someone said, qt is not as free as gtk |
| 20:23.10 | gkiagia | who said that? |
| 20:23.21 | yao_ziyuan | you |
| 20:23.30 | drantin | GPL is GPL... |
| 20:23.39 | yao_ziyuan | (04:17:19 AM) gkiagia: because they don't want to pay for a qt licence? |
| 20:23.40 | gkiagia | no, I didn't.... qt is GPL |
| 20:23.48 | thiago_home | that depends on what you define as "free" |
| 20:23.53 | thiago_home | for some, Qt is freer than GTK |
| 20:23.57 | thiago_home | for others, it isn't |
| 20:24.03 | gkiagia | exactly |
| 20:24.10 | JordanC | Qt is GPL.. there are commercial versions of Qt from what I can recall, but those are on a contract or requirement basis aren't they? |
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| 20:24.31 | thiago_home | you buy the license for Qt, you can use it forever for your projects |
| 20:24.42 | thiago_home | it's a per-seat license, though |
| 20:24.44 | JordanC | Gotcha, I haven't checked for a long time thiago |
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| 20:24.57 | JordanC | Haven't had much need to develop GUI applications as of late |
| 20:25.03 | thiago_home | if you continue buying Qt year after year, you get new versions and continuing support |
| 20:25.07 | thiago_home | but that's entirely your option |
| 20:25.15 | drantin | I think it's that if you use Qt, your stuff has to inherit the GPL license, or you can pay to get a commercial license... |
| 20:25.18 | yao_ziyuan | commercial windows apps must buy a qt license to use qt, right? |
| 20:25.20 | JordanC | Ahh, I quite like that idea.. trolltech seems fair anyway |
| 20:25.27 | JordanC | Indeed they must |
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| 20:25.43 | drantin | commercial linux apps too |
| 20:25.48 | drantin | well |
| 20:25.50 | yao_ziyuan | so: |
| 20:25.51 | drantin | not commercial |
| 20:25.55 | drantin | but proprietary |
| 20:25.56 | yao_ziyuan | realplayer for linux is a commercial linux app |
| 20:26.00 | yao_ziyuan | it uses gtk |
| 20:26.01 | thiago_home | yao_ziyuan: correct |
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| 20:26.04 | thiago_home | yes |
| 20:26.10 | yao_ziyuan | but i use gtk-qt-engine to apply kde style to it |
| 20:26.14 | yao_ziyuan | do i violate anything? |
| 20:26.21 | thiago_home | no |
| 20:26.26 | YippMN | does anyone hve knowledge of hoe to get a modem detected useing kppp? |
| 20:26.31 | thiago_home | it's an addon that the developers of realplayer did not conceive of |
| 20:26.32 | JordanC | Yes, that amazing program RealPlayer :P |
| 20:26.36 | drantin | gtk is LGPL isn't it? |
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| 20:26.45 | JordanC | Gosh, I've hated that program for years |
| 20:26.49 | gkiagia | drantin: yes |
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| 20:26.56 | thiago_home | it's not their fault that the user installed gtk-qt-engine and use that with RealPlayer |
| 20:27.12 | yao_ziyuan | is it my fault? |
| 20:27.21 | yao_ziyuan | or is it gtk-qt-engine's fault? |
| 20:27.25 | thiago_home | no one's |
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| 20:27.33 | yao_ziyuan | good |
| 20:27.40 | drantin | GPL doesn't care what you do if you don't redistribute the software... |
| 20:27.42 | yao_ziyuan | we can take advantage of qt's pretty look for free... |
| 20:27.44 | JordanC | Don't play the blame game, maaan |
| 20:27.45 | JordanC | :D |
| 20:28.15 | JordanC | GPL-violations does, doesn't it? |
| 20:28.16 | JordanC | :) |
| 20:28.29 | JordanC | Chop-Sue-y |
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| 20:29.07 | JordanC | drantin: http://www.gpl-violations.org/about.html#why |
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| 20:30.54 | drantin | JordanC: would you name one person/company sued by them that only uses the modified code internally? |
| 20:31.23 | drantin | or do they just list the violations? |
| 20:31.43 | JordanC | I don't know of any, but there is a difference in legal terms between open-source and related licenses, and commercial licenses |
| 20:32.04 | fde | drantin: Uhh, that is entirely legal... it's only illegal to distribute the resulting code... |
| 20:32.20 | fde | JordanC: drantin is correct, see above |
| 20:32.55 | drantin | although GPLv3 also has provisions for web-based things... |
| 20:32.57 | JordanC | Yeah, I know that itself it doesn't, but I was just pointing out there has been some form of legal activity |
| 20:33.27 | JordanC | Since it doesn't say "or else this will happen" |
| 20:33.36 | fde | JordanC: Yes, for companies that ship products that include GPL code, but don't host source code or anything. |
| 20:33.42 | JordanC | It just asks that it be redistributed |
| 20:33.47 | drantin | "or else you have no license to use the code in the first place" |
| 20:33.59 | JordanC | I always do it, I post my modifications as a thank you for the original code |
| 20:34.26 | fde | JordanC: Everyone should, but they're not legally obligated to if they keep the result to themselves. |
| 20:35.14 | JordanC | Yeah, exactly |
| 20:35.23 | JordanC | By the way, I wasn't refuting that |
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| 20:36.38 | JordanC | I was just trying to give an example of where people have been involved in trying to take manufacturers and companies to task on the matter of reciprocation :) |
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| 20:37.34 | drantin | ah, sorry. Due to the timing I thought you were... |
| 20:38.19 | JordanC | Yup, my bad.. should have explained a bit more thoroughly |
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| 20:40.14 | JordanC | I hope I don't have to get someone to tell a company to stop stealing code :/ |
| 20:40.51 | JordanC | It's free to edit, but it's just nice if you know if someone's doing it, so you know how people are using your work :) |
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| 20:43.05 | sharp15 | i guess kdm listens on all interfaces or none for xdmcp connections.. |
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| 20:45.40 | sharp15 | nevermind. i found something. sorry. |
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| 20:46.40 | S-i-A | hi |
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| 20:47.21 | S-i-A | i can't chnage keyboard layout? and is already select Alt+Shift to change layout? |
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| 20:47.34 | thiago_home | Ctrl+Alt+K |
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| 20:51.13 | cuci | any ideas why kmix-svn will not start after converting my system from alsa to oss? |
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| 20:52.42 | gkiagia | because kmix uses alsa |
| 20:53.51 | gkiagia | and you should use alsa too :) |
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| 20:57.11 | cuci | gkiagia: oss4 sounds better :) |
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| 20:58.07 | cuci | also kmix doesn't have enable alsa support and also kmixrc can see the sound card:"sound driver supported: OSS |
| 20:59.12 | jazka | cuci: try running kmix from konsole, and see if there are any error messages |
| 20:59.15 | gkiagia | oss4? what is this? |
| 20:59.21 | jazka | open sound system |
| 20:59.49 | cuci | jazka: well...that's the thing....it doesn't |
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| 21:00.11 | cuci | although it has debug support enabled |
| 21:00.38 | cuci | and it has a 0 exit status also |
| 21:00.49 | jazka | ah I don't know then :| |
| 21:01.08 | cuci | could you perhaps give me a hint how to run it in gdb ? |
| 21:01.58 | cuci | nope....nothing there either |
| 21:03.03 | gkiagia | hm, seems like oss revived from the dead |
| 21:03.09 | gkiagia | they released a 4.0 version |
| 21:03.49 | cuci | some time ago :) |
| 21:04.03 | gkiagia | two months ago |
| 21:04.18 | gkiagia | why is that better than alsa? |
| 21:04.49 | cuci | well...on my sysem the sound is more clear |
| 21:04.49 | jazka | more than two months ago |
| 21:05.12 | cuci | and also the mixer is waaaay more intuitive and easy to use |
| 21:05.36 | cuci | and you can set it up in just 15 min with flash on an 64 bit system |
| 21:05.53 | gkiagia | announced on june 17, although wikipedia incorrectly says july 17 :) |
| 21:06.05 | cuci | everything is cool except the damn kmix |
| 21:06.30 | jazka | I don't see any reason changing, maybe if I had some HDA Intel card which is unsupported or has problems with alsa, but my SB Live! works fine with alsa |
| 21:07.46 | cuci | well to each his own |
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| 21:08.36 | g2g591 | is glad his hda intel card works |
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| 21:12.16 | freebse | hello is there any way to change the GTK Theme under KDE4, gnome-control-center does it, but it does not keep the settings |
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| 21:14.51 | gkiagia | freebse: install the gtk-qt engine for kde4 and you will get a module in systemsettings |
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| 21:16.00 | drantin | what should provide FindWebKitKde.cmake ? |
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| 21:16.25 | drantin | trying to build konqueror from trunk and it fails, that's one of the errors |
| 21:16.31 | drantin | is that that's missing |
| 21:17.34 | robcore | hi |
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| 21:19.08 | freebse | gkiagia: thx a lot, this is what I was searching for,I had this under KDE3 and it was gone :) |
| 21:19.51 | freebse | gkiagia: no it is installed, but no modul in system |
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| 21:20.15 | gkiagia | freebse: it's in appearence |
| 21:20.38 | gkiagia | freebse: if it's not, ask your distro... in debian it works for me |
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| 21:21.09 | freebse | i got debian and it is not, unstable, hm ok, i can live with that |
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| 21:21.47 | freebse | na definately missing, anyway thx a lot |
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| 21:22.24 | freebse | maybe a reconfigure does it |
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| 21:28.43 | mib_bvmctx7y | can any one suggest how to download with kget in suse11 with proxy setting |
| 21:28.49 | mib_bvmctx7y | can any one suggest how to download with kget in suse11 with proxy setting |
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| 21:29.24 | mib_bvmctx7y | can any one suggest how to download with kget in suse11 with proxy setting |
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| 21:30.15 | luna1 | oh :P Source update complete for koffice: 2414 files affected. My last upgrade is three days ago ;) |
| 21:30.19 | mib_bvmctx7y | can any one suggest how to download with kget in suse11 with proxy setting |
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| 21:30.44 | mib_bvmctx7y | luna:can any one suggest how to download with kget in suse11 with proxy setting |
| 21:31.09 | pinotree | mib_bvmctx7y: #opensuse please |
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| 21:31.36 | mib_bvmctx7y | pinotree:wat? |
| 21:32.04 | pinotree | mib_bvmctx7y: a) stop asking every minute b) ask in #opensuse, we do NOT deal with opensuse |
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| 21:32.26 | cuci | I have some uninstalled apps that still show up in "start menu"(sic!) any quick wayt to get rid of them? |
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| 21:33.16 | cheater-conrad | hey i have a quick question |
| 21:33.35 | cheater-conrad | how do you move windows, my one has the top bar falling off the screen |
| 21:33.38 | cheater-conrad | not sure what key combo to use |
| 21:33.56 | luna1 | ALT + click |
| 21:34.20 | junkDawgie | cuci : menu edit?... right click on the start button? |
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| 21:34.25 | luna1 | press ALT then pick your windows everywhere |
| 21:34.50 | hagabaka | ugh every few hours some kde4 program would use up 100% CPU for a few minutes |
| 21:35.29 | luna1 | maybe nepomuk service ? |
| 21:35.36 | junkDawgie | or strigi |
| 21:35.37 | mib_bvmctx7y | hagabaka:what was the program? |
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| 21:35.42 | hagabaka | i have that uninstalled already |
| 21:35.47 | luna1 | it is cpu hungry |
| 21:35.53 | hagabaka | sometimes it's akregator, sometimes plasma, sometimes kwin |
| 21:36.08 | hagabaka | sometimes kmix |
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| 21:37.05 | bgmiki | ? |
| 21:37.43 | luna1 | if you mean about trunk i think it's normal |
| 21:37.56 | bgmiki | cpu 0 % |
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| 21:38.26 | hagabaka | i'm using kubuntu packages in ppa, i got the updates in backport but haven't restarted to try them yet |
| 21:38.34 | mib_yyj1jts8 | can any one suggest how to download with kget in kde4 with proxy setting |
| 21:38.47 | luna1 | ah bgmiki :) i've solved with bespin paths |
| 21:39.16 | bgmiki | nice |
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| 21:39.40 | mib_yyj1jts8 | can any one suggest how to download with kget in kde4 with proxy setting |
| 21:40.00 | luna1 | only a simple -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX= |
| 21:40.02 | luna1 | :P |
| 21:40.12 | bgmiki | luna1, yes |
| 21:40.29 | mib_yyj1jts8 | una1:how? |
| 21:40.34 | luna1 | now infact i use only svn command and cmake |
| 21:40.36 | bgmiki | after ./configure && make && sudo make install |
| 21:40.46 | luna1 | none kdesvnbuild |
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| 21:41.29 | luna1 | eh ? ./configure ? nope with cmake |
| 21:41.30 | bgmiki | luna1, did u try bespin decoration? |
| 21:41.47 | luna1 | yes i have test it |
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| 21:41.57 | luna1 | but i don't like it so much |
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| 21:42.02 | bgmiki | lol |
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| 21:42.32 | luna1 | but are good with the bespin theme anyway |
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| 21:43.00 | luna1 | the only one decent too is oxygen deco |
| 21:43.06 | luna1 | for the moment |
| 21:43.51 | mib_yyj1jts8 | luna:is the graphics of kde4.1 is better than kde4 |
| 21:44.47 | luna1 | mmm, is still the same |
| 21:45.13 | mib_yyj1jts8 | luna:oh! |
| 21:45.21 | luna1 | with > 4.1 you have more configurable bars and so on |
| 21:45.55 | mib_yyj1jts8 | luna:ok |
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| 21:46.02 | mib_yyj1jts8 | ok |
| 21:46.26 | mib_yyj1jts8 | luna:are u usiing open suse11 |
| 21:46.47 | luna1 | nope, debian or gentoo here |
| 21:46.54 | mib_yyj1jts8 | ok |
| 21:47.31 | bgmiki | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/695/snapshot1ym0.png |
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| 21:50.20 | luna1 | oh :D bgmiki is the chan artist i think :P |
| 21:50.39 | estan | hm. i really don't understand the resizing of plasmoids.. when you drag the resize icon it scales with the plasmoid center as origin, which feels very unnatural.. and it also scales the content of it, until your release it (talking about the folderview now). |
| 21:50.44 | bgmiki | lol |
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| 21:51.13 | luna1 | yes is true, it feels ugly |
| 21:51.42 | luna1 | think to be is a lack of implementation for the moment |
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| 21:59.54 | yao_ziyuan | wonder |
| 22:00.02 | yao_ziyuan | if there is a kde image editor |
| 22:00.08 | yao_ziyuan | that competes against gimp |
| 22:00.25 | luna1 | maybe krita ? |
| 22:00.29 | yao_ziyuan | kde seems to want to do everything: office, browser, ... |
| 22:00.56 | luna1 | krita is image editor, part of koffice |
| 22:01.48 | szakulec | krita is more of a painting program, that can do image editing, rather than the other way around |
| 22:02.08 | XazZ | evening guys |
| 22:02.24 | yao_ziyuan | so when you guys need to do advanced image editing, |
| 22:02.28 | yao_ziyuan | you do use GIMP right? |
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| 22:03.19 | szakulec | yao_ziyuan: I would say try Krita, and if it doesn't have what you need, use the GIMP |
| 22:03.42 | XazZ | I think I have a problem with input actions (in KDE4) (maybe it's just me tho) - I created a new action with action type = "Keyboard Shortcut -> Command/URL (simple)"; under keyboard shortcut I selected my key (Media Play); then under "Command/URL settings" I entered: /opt/kde/bin/dcop amarok-2 player playPause |
| 22:03.57 | XazZ | running /opt/kde/bin/dcop amarok-2 player playPause in console makes amarok (1.x one) play/pause my track |
| 22:04.02 | szakulec | unless I'm mistaken, dcop has been replaced with dbus |
| 22:04.10 | luna1 | koffice won't build from days :/ |
| 22:04.40 | XazZ | szakulec: I know, but I can't find amarok in dbus browser (and I'm still using amarok 1.4.9.1) |
| 22:05.00 | XazZ | running the command from konsole makes amarok play/pause the current track |
| 22:05.22 | szakulec | XazZ: can't help you then- sorry |
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| 22:06.10 | XazZ | szakulec: no problem, thanks anyway - maybe someone else has a hint |
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| 22:08.42 | thiago_home | XazZ: upgrade to Amarok2 to see it in the D-Bus browser |
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| 22:09.37 | XazZ | thiago_home: I only wanted to update when it's stable - but let me try something |
| 22:09.47 | menace | does anyone know, whether i can save an encrypted email at kmail in a decrypted version? |
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| 22:10.07 | thiago_home | menace: you can't |
| 22:10.15 | menace | why? |
| 22:10.19 | menace | i want to |
| 22:10.25 | menace | would be a good feature. |
| 22:10.32 | XazZ | thiago_home: the problem is not amarok related - it must be kde input actions related |
| 22:10.38 | thiago_home | menace: other people disagree. |
| 22:10.40 | szakulec | copy the text, and forward it to yourself |
| 22:10.50 | XazZ | I added a new action with my mail key and assigned the following command to it: /usr/bin/konsole |
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| 22:11.02 | XazZ | after pressing mail konsole does *not* pop up |
| 22:11.21 | thiago_home | KDE 3 or 4? |
| 22:11.22 | menace | szakulec: a) inconvienient b) rather complicated to answer such an forwarded mail to the original sender |
| 22:11.37 | thiago_home | menace: KMail only stores the email like it received it |
| 22:11.39 | XazZ | thiago_home: KDE 4.1.0 (so KDE4) |
| 22:11.52 | menace | meh |
| 22:11.53 | menace | sucks |
| 22:12.04 | thiago_home | XazZ: shortcuts aren't working. |
| 22:12.10 | menace | kmail crashs often, when i say i don't want to decrypt it again |
| 22:12.21 | thiago_home | menace: 1.9 or 1.10? |
| 22:12.24 | XazZ | thiago_home: oh, is there a patch/workaround? |
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| 22:12.39 | thiago_home | XazZ: no. There's no solution for the bug yet. |
| 22:12.46 | thiago_home | XazZ: it's a known issue not fixed yet. |
| 22:13.07 | XazZ | okay, thanks anyway for the help |
| 22:13.22 | XazZ | then I'll use lineakd (does the same but it's less 'cool') |
| 22:13.44 | menace | 1.9.6 thiago_home |
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| 22:14.03 | thiago_home | menace: upgrade to 1.9.9 |
| 22:14.11 | thiago_home | menace: or 1.9.10 |
| 22:14.25 | menace | ubuntu doesn't show any update-possibilites.. :) |
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| 22:14.40 | thiago_home | too bad |
| 22:14.44 | thiago_home | the version exists |
| 22:14.54 | thiago_home | I have 1.9.9 in my computer |
| 22:15.18 | ganymede_ | does anyone know if ktorrent supports downloading through multiple network interfaces? like if i have eth0, eth1, eth2, etc., whether it can download through all simultaneously? |
| 22:15.49 | thiago_home | ganymede_: it downloads through all interfaces |
| 22:15.52 | thiago_home | by default |
| 22:16.26 | ganymede_ | thiago_home: then my next question would be is it possible to set bandwidth limits per interface? |
| 22:16.33 | thiago_home | ganymede_: yes |
| 22:16.39 | thiago_home | but that's outside ktorrent's purview |
| 22:16.47 | thiago_home | there are several traffic shaping scripts and other tools |
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| 22:16.56 | ganymede_ | purview? |
| 22:17.21 | thiago_home | http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=purview |
| 22:17.41 | ganymede_ | i'm not following, you mean there are add-on scripts and tools for ktorrent to control per-interface bandwidth limits? i've only seen a global limit in the settings |
| 22:17.45 | thiago_home | no |
| 22:17.54 | XazZ | thiago_home: one last question: how can I enable services under service manager? |
| 22:17.55 | thiago_home | I mean that it's not ktorrent's job to control the traffic in the interface |
| 22:18.01 | XazZ | start/stop buttons are greyed out |
| 22:18.12 | thiago_home | XazZ: no idea, sorry |
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| 22:18.28 | XazZ | because I found KHotKeys there |
| 22:18.32 | XazZ | status is: not running |
| 22:18.32 | thiago_home | ganymede_: ktorrent doesn't know which interfaces it's sending traffic on |
| 22:18.37 | XazZ | (which is probably the source of the problem) |
| 22:18.41 | thiago_home | XazZ: it's not |
| 22:18.50 | thiago_home | XazZ: khotkeys is broken. Even if you start it, it won't work |
| 22:18.53 | ganymede_ | thiago_home: so ktorrent isn't written specifically to use all interfaces, that's just the way the underlying operating system exposes networking to it? |
| 22:18.55 | XazZ | okay |
| 22:19.20 | thiago_home | ganymede_: yes |
| 22:19.32 | thiago_home | ganymede_: ktorrent can't use all interfaces unless the operating system lets it |
| 22:19.45 | ganymede_ | thiago_home: and in general, such a thing would only be possible via UDP, because in TCP, there is a single stream that needs to be maintained |
| 22:19.48 | thiago_home | ganymede_: and if the operating system routes using different interfaces, ktorrent will use it |
| 22:20.00 | thiago_home | ganymede_: update your routing table. |
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| 22:20.16 | thiago_home | ganymede_: or introduce some traffic balancing in the routing table. |
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| 22:20.49 | XazZ | thanks again thiago_home |
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| 22:23.10 | ganymede_ | thiago_home: thanks |
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| 22:29.30 | estan | hm. anyone know how i can get the Video Record desktop effect to work? do i need to install something special? |
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| 22:35.55 | gkiagia | wow, gmail works really good with webkit :D no more firefox ;) |
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| 22:36.48 | thiago_home | yes, Google actually cares about Safari |
| 22:37.06 | luna1 | anyone have problems to put icons in plasma bars ? |
| 22:37.21 | luna1 | definitively truk wont' work anymore for me |
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| 22:37.27 | luna1 | trunk* |
| 22:37.45 | xenol | ozembuch.dreams.sk/~xenol/kdetrash.jpeg |
| 22:37.54 | xenol | anyone can tell how to solve the trashcan? |
| 22:38.20 | gkiagia | thiago_home: are you sure it's google's fault that it doesn't work with khtml? |
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| 22:43.13 | thiago_home | gkiagia: yes, positive |
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| 22:44.09 | xenol | any idea about that pic plz? |
| 22:44.57 | gkiagia | xenol: zoom out |
| 22:45.11 | gkiagia | xenol: then move the can to the desktop and zoom in again |
| 22:46.06 | xenol | gkiagia: i want to have can where it is, not on desktop, should i file a bug? |
| 22:47.17 | gkiagia | xenol: you can add it on the panel then... it's a little difficult to put it in, but you can |
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| 22:47.38 | gkiagia | either put it in another place and then move it |
| 22:47.54 | xenol | gkiagia: tho will i have to do it all the time i turn my pc on? |
| 22:47.57 | gkiagia | or use the add widgets dialog opened from the panel and use the add widget button |
| 22:48.20 | gkiagia | xenol: no, plasma saves the positions of plasmoids |
| 22:48.30 | xenol | i know |
| 22:48.50 | xenol | but the problems occured after i saved and restarted plasma |
| 22:49.08 | xenol | the trash can is small, after restart /reboot it grows |
| 22:49.09 | xenol | :D |
| 22:49.22 | gkiagia | hm |
| 22:49.29 | gkiagia | no idea then |
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| 22:50.52 | xenol | i guess then kde 4.1 is far from bugfree |
| 22:50.54 | xenol | as it was said |
| 22:51.17 | gkiagia | worksforme :) |
| 22:51.59 | Half-Left | Since when is any DE nug free, even 3.5.10 isn't |
| 22:52.03 | xenol | can u try plz add the trashcan there? |
| 22:52.03 | Half-Left | bug* |
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| 22:53.44 | gkiagia | xenol: it works fine |
| 22:53.49 | xenol | nvidia card? |
| 22:53.54 | gkiagia | nope |
| 22:54.02 | xenol | tho card has nothing to do with it imho |
| 22:54.22 | gkiagia | but I added the can on the panel |
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| 22:54.35 | gkiagia | and it stays on the panel as expected |
| 22:54.49 | gkiagia | after kquitapp plasma && plasma |
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| 22:55.28 | luna1 | can anyone try if in the actual trunk can put icons (launchers) on plasma bars ? |
| 22:55.49 | luna1 | if i put one in there it vanish |
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| 22:55.58 | gkiagia | hm, interesing bug... when I add the trashcan plasmoid, it doesn't detect that I have items in the trash |
| 22:55.58 | xenol | gkiagia: tho any idea how to fix it? |
| 22:56.03 | g2g591 | luna1: i can do that perfectly fine here on Arch linux , kde 4.1 |
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| 22:56.18 | luna1 | not 4.1, trunk |
| 22:56.28 | gkiagia | xenol: nope, try harder :) |
| 22:56.57 | gkiagia | as I said, it worksforme |
| 22:57.12 | xenol | gkiagia: distro? |
| 22:57.18 | gkiagia | debian |
| 22:57.32 | gkiagia | hey, are you running 4.1 or trunk? |
| 22:57.35 | luna1 | debian too here but nothing works :( |
| 22:57.45 | gkiagia | I think luna1 is talking about the same problem |
| 22:58.00 | luna1 | icons dragged in bars vanish |
| 22:58.04 | luna1 | :( |
| 22:58.17 | luna1 | it is unuseful like this |
| 22:58.24 | xenol | gkiagia: tho it doesnt matter where the hell i put that can on plasma |
| 22:58.28 | xenol | after plasma restart |
| 22:58.33 | xenol | all grow :D |
| 22:58.42 | gkiagia | grow? |
| 22:58.56 | xenol | yes |
| 22:59.13 | luna1 | here the only things are growing are my balls :D |
| 22:59.15 | luna1 | ahaH |
| 22:59.30 | xenol | as u could see on pic, like 1/4 of trash cannot be seen on plasma |
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| 22:59.41 | xenol | ozembuch.dreams.sk/~xenol/kdetrash.jpeg |
| 22:59.41 | gkiagia | luna1: I can also add icons just fine |
| 22:59.43 | xenol | just look |
| 22:59.53 | luna1 | here vanish |
| 23:00.04 | luna1 | not plasmoid too |
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| 23:00.30 | gkiagia | so are you guys running trunk? |
| 23:00.30 | g2g591 | luna1: well, i guess the trunk is broken |
| 23:00.53 | luna1 | yes is broken from five or six days |
| 23:01.16 | luna1 | or mine is broken but dunno why |
| 23:01.22 | gkiagia | trunk is meant to be broken :) |
| 23:01.29 | gkiagia | :P |
| 23:01.45 | luna1 | yep but this problem is strange |
| 23:02.05 | luna1 | and seems to be is only my problem |
| 23:02.23 | xenol | dunno if kdemod 4.1 is trunk |
| 23:02.26 | luna1 | you have confirmed that drag icons on bars work |
| 23:03.02 | luna1 | and i have restart the build from scratch |
| 23:03.33 | luna1 | maybe can be nvidia 173.14.09 ? |
| 23:04.23 | luna1 | nvidia have decided from a day to another that my card is legacy |
| 23:04.25 | luna1 | :\ |
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| 23:05.08 | gkiagia | xenol: kdemod is modified kde 4.1 |
| 23:05.39 | gkiagia | luna1: it works in 4.1.0 here, I didn't try trunk |
| 23:06.01 | xenol | gkiagia: tho only 2 modifications done so far afaik |
| 23:06.21 | xenol | only changed the kde 4.1 from loading screen and About KDE context |
| 23:06.26 | xenol | in apps |
| 23:06.28 | luna1 | ahhhhhhhhhhh 4.1.0 ok ok |
| 23:06.46 | luna1 | it works too here |
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| 23:07.19 | luna1 | *works* :\ |
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| 23:12.14 | luna1 | ok, i'm seeing ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
| 23:12.14 | luna1 | icons are in there |
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| 23:12.22 | luna1 | but not visible :\ |
| 23:12.37 | danilafata | hi all |
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| 23:13.58 | andy` | where does kmail store information about smtp servers? |
| 23:15.21 | aseigo | andy`: in the mailtransportrc iirc |
| 23:16.32 | andy` | aseigo: I'll have a look. kmail seems to be a bit confused at the moment |
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| 23:29.52 | darkstego | does kde 4.1 come with kdesu? |
| 23:30.24 | Jucato | `kde4-config --path libexec`/kdesu |
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| 23:32.17 | darkstego | Jucato, why isn't it in the regular path? |
| 23:32.35 | Jucato | dunno... |
| 23:32.43 | darkstego | thanks, will add it to path |
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| 23:33.30 | MetaMorfoziS | hi all |
| 23:33.34 | MetaMorfoziS | is klaptop==klaptopdaemon? |
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| 23:33.44 | MetaMorfoziS | i have a klaptop named stuff on my systray |
| 23:33.45 | darkstego | one more question, my desktop is taking up only part of my screen leaving the rest as checkered board, even though the apps can occupy the empty space, is there a way to fix this? |
| 23:33.51 | MetaMorfoziS | is it related to klaptopdaemon? |
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| 23:35.08 | Jucato | darkstego: you probably zoomed out. click on the "cashew" on the part of the desktop and click Zoom in in the menu that pops out |
| 23:37.35 | aseigo | it could also be that darkstego changed screen resolution and isn't getting xrandr love through to plasma via qt |
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| 23:38.41 | Jucato | oh... didn't consider screen > 1 :) |
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| 23:39.36 | Theory | where abouts in svn does libkexiv2 live now? |
| 23:40.15 | Jucato | kdegraphics/libs/ |
| 23:40.16 | darkstego | Jucato, aseigo, I had just installed kde 4.1, the kde settings read the resolution right, zooming out then back in fixed the background but not the panel, I ended up closing it and starting a new one |
| 23:41.30 | Theory | Jucato: thanks |
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| 23:51.24 | darkstego | Props to all the kde devs here, just trying out KDE 4.1 and it is outstanding, great job. |
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| 23:55.15 | junkDawgie | i haven't said anything like that, darkstego.... afraid i'll jinx mine |
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| 23:56.13 | Cha0tix | Hello all |
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| 23:56.20 | Cha0tix | mdeanda: are you here? |
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| 23:57.36 | darkstego | just a shot in the dark here, as I have been unable to find any way to do this online, is it possible to use kde 4.1 in a dual monitor setting? |
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| 23:58.15 | Cha0tix | Hum, you can use nvidia drivers to do that for example |
| 23:58.45 | darkstego | I mean in a dual x-server setting |
| 23:59.16 | darkstego | the one where I get two separate screens, not the single wide screen done through drivers |
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| 23:59.46 | junkDawgie | no idea.... but i don't think you are alone in that |
