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00:10.31lilltigerrizvan: Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport), do you have kdesupport installed?
00:10.38rizvanyes,
00:11.04rizvanfew days ago, it was compiling fine..
00:11.08rizvankdesupport installs fine
00:11.23rizvanhttp://rafb.net/p/EDp8N982.html
00:11.25lilltigertry using: locate automoc4
00:11.34rizvanplz see the paste http://rafb.net/p/EDp8N982.html
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00:13.03lilltigerthe paste says that it cant find automoc4 wich is a part of kdesupport.. as i said.. so either your install of kdesupport dident not install corectly or kdesuppoert dosent include that any longer
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00:13.28blauzahlrizvan: env | grep PATH   <---pastebin that?
00:13.49blauzahlactually, first
00:13.53blauzahlwhich automoc4
00:14.07lilltigerblauzahl: the paths is included in the paste actually :)
00:15.05blauzahli don't actually see the local kde compiled bin directory in that path
00:15.16lilltigerbut /usr/lib dosent seem to be in his patch
00:15.23rizvanblauzahl http://rafb.net/p/Z5VnE919.html
00:15.39blauzahlautomoc4 directs to my ~/kde/bin/automoc4
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00:16.20lilltigerlooks like he installed kdesupport into the wrong path
00:16.21blauzahlwhat qt are you using? qt-copy or system?
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00:16.28rizvansystem
00:16.38rizvanqt is in /usr/lib
00:16.41blauzahlthat should make your paths easier i think :)
00:17.12blauzahli vote find where your automoc4 is, and put a path to that in front of everything else
00:17.21rizvani this here is the problem LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kde/lib:/usr/lib/usr/local/lib:/lib
00:17.30rizvan:/usr/lib/usr/local/lib
00:17.38blauzahli don't see any paths to your local kde4 build
00:17.44blauzahlwait, you are building a kde4?
00:17.50rizvancolon (:) is missing
00:17.58rizvanyes kdesvn 4.2
00:19.49rizvani think the /usr/lib was not delimited, so, kdesvn got missing /usr/lib
00:19.57blauzahli would add things like ~/kde/include to the *front* of your CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH just to be safe
00:20.22blauzahland once you get all your paths set up right, save them to a file ;)
00:21.17rizvanhere's my script to build kdesvn
00:21.20rizvanhttp://rafb.net/p/JDuSie72.html
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00:22.42blauzahlthere's kdesvn-build which suppsoedly will keep going even if a module fails. i haven't messed with it yet
00:23.23blauzahlkdesupport requires a JAVA_HOME to get set too, iirc. i have no clue what depends on it, but...
00:24.04rizvanjust a few days (3-4) days ago, ktorrent was compiling fine
00:25.30blauzahlrevert to then?
00:26.22rizvanafter fixing the (:), i'm reinstalling kde4svn
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00:30.01rizvanblauzahl, how do i revert?
00:35.08blauzahlerm, no clue
00:35.16blauzahlsvn revert <revision number> ?
00:35.49blauzahlactually, you should do an "svn info" in the src directory
00:35.54blauzahland see when it was last changed
00:36.03blauzahlthat might give you a clue as to if soething happened
00:36.22blauzahland then sorry, i don't know the revert syntax offhand
00:36.32rizvanok, thanks a lot :)
00:36.34blauzahlthere are various forms though
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01:16.03Digital_PioneerIs there a usable KDevelop for KDE4 yet?
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01:16.51g2g591Digital_Pioneer: im pretty sure, let me check
01:17.48g2g591Digital_Pioneer: well, not unles you want to try an alpha
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01:18.45Digital_PioneerDoes it do the basics?
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01:58.24lilltigerDigital_Pioneer: use kdevelop3
01:58.46lilltigerDigital_Pioneer: alpha is never good :)
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02:37.37rizvanblauzahl
02:37.49Digital_Pioneerlilltiger: True, true. :P
02:38.08Digital_Pioneerlilltiger: But somtimes it's decent. :)
02:38.39JucatoDigital_Pioneer: you can try asking (and waiting for a reply) in #kdevelop about those details
02:38.43rizvankdeartwork, ktorrent - not compiling when automoc4 is not installed in /usr,
02:39.35rizvanhere ktorrent was complaining of missing automoc4, had to do ln -sf /opt/kde/bin/automoc4 /usr/bin; even when /opt/kde/bin was in path
02:40.19Digital_PioneerJucato: Yup, have done and am doing. :)
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02:43.26rizvani guess kdesupport is not relocatable or kdeartwork, ktorrent are expecting kdesupport (automoc4, etc) at /usr
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02:48.17newsenseis there a way to have seperate appearance settings for 2 different panels ?
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02:49.47drantinick, why?
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03:01.12newsense2 different panel appearances is perfectly sane
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03:01.48fujisananyone here?
03:01.54drantinnope
03:02.12drantinthat number of current users means nothing
03:02.21fujisan:(
03:02.27fujisani need help
03:02.34fujisanwhere to get updates for kde4
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03:03.04drantinyour distro
03:03.08fujisanno
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03:03.17fujisanme kde updates
03:03.26drantino_O
03:03.30newsenselmao
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03:03.37rpagfujisan: your distro's package manager should handle KDE4 updates
03:03.42newsenseok back to the 2 panel thing
03:03.46newsenseignore him
03:03.55fujisanrpag
03:04.06fujisanwhat is the packagemanager in kde
03:04.12newsenselmao
03:04.14newsensenone
03:04.22fujisannone?
03:04.24newsensewhats your distro use ?
03:04.29fujisani am running distro kde4.1
03:04.29Jucatofujisan: please ask in your distribution
03:04.34newsenseapt rpm ?
03:04.34aptRed Hat's package management system. URL: http://www.rpm.org/
03:04.36JucatoKDE does not make binary packages
03:04.44Jucato(or distro packages)
03:05.02rpagHe's either really stupid or trolling
03:05.12newsensetrolling id guess
03:05.12drantinor on ubuntu
03:05.15fujisanjucato how come you arent there?
03:05.21newsenseor all of the above
03:05.35Jucatofujisan: where?
03:05.51fujisannewsense no need to act so american, i mean imperialistic, i mean abrasively
03:06.02fujisan#kubuntu Jucato
03:06.07drantino_O
03:06.09newsenseseriously though any way to have different for 2 different panels, using 3.5.9
03:06.23newsensedifferent settings that is sorry
03:06.29drantindid you ever say anything about 3.5.9 before?
03:06.50newsenseno but no one asked
03:06.52Jucatofujisan: because I choose not to be there? should I always be there?
03:07.00newsensethis a kde4 only channel ?
03:07.03drantinbut the process would be completely different if it's possible...
03:07.13fujisanJucato:
03:07.15newsensei know
03:07.21newsensethats why i mentioned it
03:07.24fujisanyou are the only one that can help me
03:07.36Jucatonewsense: nope. not possible in KDE 3. dunno if it's possible in KDE 4
03:07.37newsenseif anyone was gonna answer me they would have asked that
03:07.57newsenseJucato: thanks :-)
03:08.20lilltigerDigital_Pioneer: but kdevelop3 works in kde4 if you have kdelibs :)
03:08.26fujisanJucato:
03:08.32newsensewas it a feature in previous releases, i could have sworn it was a few releases back
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03:08.55fujisanJucato:  you used to the ubiquity in the K-environment related channels
03:09.33fujisanO:-)
03:09.37Jucatofujisan: no
03:09.39fujisan>:o Jucato
03:09.39lilltigernewsense: it could be possible to run 2 different panels as differet users and in that way get different apperance on them
03:09.43drantinI saw that! hiding those horns with that halo
03:09.58newsenselilltiger: interesting
03:10.05fujisanJucato:  i feel like we are close friends
03:10.10drantino_O
03:10.11newsenselilltiger: didnt think of that
03:10.11fujisan:-D
03:10.16drantinO_o
03:10.23Jucatonewsense: it's probably possible in KDE 4 to use a different background for each panel. but I know there's no GUI way to do that
03:10.41Jucatobut like I said, KDE 3... nope
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03:11.08lilltigernewsense: it's an "ugly" solution but should work
03:11.10newsensethanks Jucato lilltiger, good info, seen nothing in the manulas so i thought id ask here
03:11.32fujisanbu bye newsense
03:11.49fujisanJucato:
03:11.52newsenseno idling here ?
03:12.01drantinor fujisan is leaving?
03:12.18fujisano_O
03:12.34lilltigernewsense: you are welcome to idel as much as you want :)
03:12.39drantinarrests newsense for loitering
03:13.05fujisani stay here with my good friend Jucato
03:13.10Jucatofujisan: can you please not highlight me without saying anything? I'm busy atm
03:13.22fujisanok friend
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03:13.43Darkrift2anyone know how to make folder view full screen and transparent so it looks like a standard desktop?
03:14.53Darkrift2kde4 btw, didnt know the channel was on redirect
03:15.31newsenseDarkrift2:  if youre referring to konquerer i dont think it supports transparency
03:15.51Darkrift2im talking about the "desktop" folder view that replaces desktop icons on kde4
03:16.23newsenseah ok sorry i know nothing about kde4
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03:17.21marcusUI'm writing a web page in Konqueror, and the font sizes in the printout are too small. How can I make them bigger? (View->Enlarge font only affects the displayed size, not the printed size.)
03:18.10JucatoDarkrift2: in KDE 4.2 (January 2009) it will be possible to use the folder view as the standard desktop. for now, all you can do is resize it to fill up the whole desktop and use a transparent Plasma theme
03:18.23Darkrift2ok
03:20.31Darkrift2anyone know what could cause my upgrade to 8.10 + kde 4.1 to make my network suddenly not show up in my wifi list?
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03:20.40Darkrift2kubuntu 8.10*
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03:21.34newsenseiwlist show it ?
03:22.16Darkrift2yes
03:22.17Darkrift2it shows lots
03:22.25Darkrift2the built in tool (cant find its name) shows 1 :S
03:22.44newsenseoh ok well at least wireless works :-)
03:22.52Darkrift2oddly the one it does show doesnt show in iwlist :S
03:23.21Darkrift2anyone know a command line method to make it connect to a network by ssid?
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03:24.40newsenseiwconfig
03:25.01_CitizenKane_iwconfig interface essid "Netowork Name"
03:25.10Darkrift2ty
03:25.21_CitizenKane_where interface is the interface name such as wlan0, etc.
03:26.17newsensenice to see a *buntu user using a command line tool :-)
03:26.34Darkrift2id rather it, but never had to for wifi
03:26.37Darkrift2it was always taken care of
03:26.50Darkrift2once i get it setup, i use X for irc and firefox
03:26.57Darkrift2console for all the rest
03:27.10newsenseim like that with video, if it didnt just work id be working to figure it out
03:27.35Darkrift2iwconfig gave no output, but didnt seem to connect
03:27.50Darkrift2ping still giving unknown host :S
03:27.59_CitizenKane_Darkrift2: you usually have to also set the channel the network is on
03:28.08Darkrift2on my debian laptop i had a script that did all this lol
03:28.12Darkrift2ahh, i c
03:28.24_CitizenKane_iwconfig interface channel X
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03:28.33Darkrift2ok, did both
03:28.40newsensehttp://linux.die.net/man/8/iwconfig
03:28.51_CitizenKane_and then you get an IP adderss with dhclient
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03:28.58Darkrift2iwconfig gave me a list showing right channel and info
03:29.06Darkrift2looks like its connected, but still no internet
03:29.10newsenseifconfig
03:29.17Darkrift2thx for link
03:29.17_CitizenKane_dhclient interface
03:29.20newsenseusing dhcp ?
03:29.47Darkrift2yeah
03:29.51Darkrift2its working
03:29.57Darkrift2i mean
03:30.01Darkrift2its working on connecting :S
03:30.13newsenseDarkrift2: wep or wpa1/2 ?
03:30.20Darkrift2open network
03:31.42marcusUThen again, at least Konqueror will print this web page. All Firefox will do is crash.
03:33.05newsensehow do you take a screenshot in kde, keycombo ?
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03:33.59marcusUPrt Scr
03:34.12marcusUSame key as Sys Rq
03:34.37Darkrift2wtf
03:34.48newsensehttp://guide.opendns.com/?url=ksnapshot.newsense.net gets loaded in konquerer when i hit prnt scrn
03:34.49Darkrift2now the kde4.1 network thing shows my network
03:34.57Darkrift2and i selected it, told it to auto connect and saved it
03:35.05Darkrift2shows in the context menu, but wont connect
03:38.46Darkrift2anyone know how to make the kde4.1 network app actually connect? it shows state as "disconnected" but i cant figure out how to change that
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03:41.53grablinDoes anybody know how to get the name of the file currunly shown in the "Picture Frame" widget in the slideshow mode?
03:42.03newsensetry iwconfig interface essid any
03:42.09newsensesee if it connects
03:43.03Darkrift2nothing
03:43.28newsenseiwconfig shows your interface as well as ifconfig ?
03:43.44Darkrift2yes
03:43.47Darkrift2both show it
03:43.54newsensereset your ap or change the channel
03:44.47Darkrift2theres nothing wrong with the ap
03:44.51Darkrift2this computer is connected to it :S
03:44.53newsenseconnexct than
03:45.00Darkrift2and that laptop was connected to it before the upgrade
03:45.08newsenseok change the channel
03:45.24newsensei heard ya the first first time
03:45.40newsenseim just trying to offer ya some help
03:45.54newsenseor could ask in #kubuntu
03:46.04newsensemight be a bug on their part
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03:47.26DarkriftXi tried in there
03:47.31DarkriftXthey dont offer kde4 support
03:47.35DarkriftXand nobody is in the channel that does
03:47.58DarkriftXchanged channel, still nothing
03:48.00newsensedid ya change the channel?
03:48.25DarkriftXits odd, the context menu shows the connection and the strenght, but doesnt connect
03:48.38DarkriftXi see the % bar showing about 78% signal str
03:49.12DarkriftXi know this sounds funny, but ill try a reboot
03:49.25DarkriftXi did do lots of installs on it today
03:49.26newsenseDarkrift2: i did support for 2 different popular wifi manufacturers and ive seen flakyness of wifi, changing channel has solved many problems
03:49.50DarkriftXi dont htink its a connection issue
03:49.54newsenseDarkrift2: i know it sounds stupid as i thought at first
03:49.55DarkriftXi think its the software not trying to connect
03:50.04DarkriftXand i changed the channel, didnt work
03:50.07newsenseok than d without it
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04:04.25grablinHow often I can post the same question here to be polite?
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04:08.33zerkmsgrablin: :-))))
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04:10.43drantindepends on traffic, if there haven't been too many joins/parts then keep waiting...
04:10.52OhMyWolfnessGood Morning. ;)
04:10.53grablinzerkms: :) My prob bothers me some days... Yesterday I have posted it on the KDE forum (http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/20850/picture-frame-widget-info.html)
04:11.11drantinif the question has shot off the top of the screen and then some, it could be safe to ask again...
04:11.58Darkrift2on kde4.1 the built in network manager is kwifimanager and knetworkmanager right?
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04:14.40lilltigergrablin: you cant, if you have. But you can sugest that feture to the dev of that plasmoid, there is an wishlish in the bug-database
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04:21.09grablinlilltiger: Can you give me the link to that wishlist ?
04:21.32lilltigerbugs.kde.org
04:21.51grablinlilltiger: Thank you.
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04:49.45tony_is it safe to upgrade to kde 4.1 from 4.0?
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04:54.51_CitizenKane_tony_: as far as I know it is
04:55.22drantindepends on the distro, most should be fine, I don't recommend it on gentoo though...
04:55.30tony__CitizenKane_: i mean, without breaking any packages. i want mythtv left untouched because it's so hard for me to get a successful install
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04:55.53drantinwhy would kde mess with mythtv?
04:56.06_CitizenKane_tony_: what drantin said, just do it with caution
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04:56.35Lord^Anubiswhat distro are you running?
04:56.37tony_drantin: idk, i'm a linux noob so wanna make sure
04:56.46tony_Lord^Anubis: kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4.0
04:56.51Lord^Anubisoh
04:56.59Lord^Anubiswell, you can install kde 4 alongside kde 3
04:57.04Lord^Anubison ubuntu
04:57.07drantinapt-get/synaptic/whatever shouldn't have any problems upgrading 4.0 to 4.1
04:57.27Lord^Anubiswell, you can choose to log into both kde 3 and 4
04:57.32tony_ok, i'll go ahead and upgrade. think i should upgrade to 4.1 before myth install?
04:57.42Lord^Anubisyou don't have to get rid of your kde3 to use it in ubuntu
04:58.05drantinhe's upgrading from 4.0 to 4.1
04:58.12Lord^Anubisoh
04:58.16Lord^Anubisnvm
04:58.17Lord^Anubissorry
04:58.18drantinnot anything with 3.5 afaics...
04:58.42Lord^Anubisyeah, kde 4.1 seems to work a lot better than 4.0...
04:59.11tony_Lord^Anubis: yes, very. i was really pleased with it
04:59.30OhMyWolfnessDoes 4.0 keep any settings from 3.5?
05:01.35drantinno
05:02.23OhMyWolfnessOkay thanks. ;)
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05:10.22Lord^Anubisthink i'll switch from fedora back to ubuntu once kde 4.2 comes out
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05:33.53supert0nesits not a bad idea to wait just because ubuntu wont have kde 4 as its default until intrepid in november
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05:37.57tony_supert0nes: have you tried 4.1? it's stable for me
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05:40.14EnginAguys, KDE support multiple-headed displays ?
05:40.29EnginAkwin places windows just at the center of the virtual screen size... not at the center of the primary display
05:40.48EnginAkicker tries ot occupy all virtual screen width... not just the primary one.
05:41.06supert0nesi have been using 4.1 since the beta days in may
05:41.38supert0nesbut the default config folder used changes from .kde4 to .kde in intrepid
05:41.41Jejemtony_: it's not stable at all.
05:41.59supert0nes4.1 is completely stable i love it
05:42.42EnginA3.5.9 is not stable yet, how come 4.1 is :D
05:42.42Jejemsupert0nes: it's not stable at all.
05:42.48Lord^Anubisyeah, 4.1 is perfectly stable for me, but there are a few things that aren't implemented yet...
05:42.59ZarinEnginA, you need to have Xinerama enabled
05:43.07EnginAZarin: any pointers ?
05:43.07JejemLord^Anubis: do a zoom in then a zoom out in the plasma stuff ;)
05:43.15Lord^Anubisyeah...
05:43.28supert0nesi'm not saying 4.1.1 isnt necessary
05:43.33Lord^Anubiswell, this is a laptop with no graphics card, so i have desktop effects disabled right now
05:43.34supert0nesbut my kde doesnt crash ever
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05:43.44JejemLord^Anubis: try it with desktop effects ;)
05:43.48Lord^Anubislol
05:43.50Jejemand you'll not call that "perfectly stable"
05:43.55Lord^Anubisyeah
05:44.04supert0neskde is what you make it i use compiz
05:44.04Lord^Anubisperhaps i shouldn't say *perfectly* stable
05:44.05Jejemi'd say perfectly dirty, for now
05:44.30supert0nesquit hatin its in great shape, if you found a bug then report it
05:44.52Jejemthere are enough "bug reports" for now ;)
05:45.31supert0neswhich is a good thing
05:45.41Jejemor not
05:46.06Jejemdepends on a "users / devel time / quantity of bugs" ratio
05:46.11EnginAZarin: still couldn't find where to enable it
05:46.25supert0nesand most projects are at a positive closed to openned ratio right now
05:46.27ZarinEnginA, what graphics card do you have?
05:46.30EnginAnvidia
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05:47.12Jejemsupert0nes: if you put KDE2/3 closed bugs in the ratio, yeah, sure
05:47.35ZarinEnginA, you should be able to use a nVidia program to enable TwinView (Which is nVidia's Xinerama name)
05:47.36Jejemfor now, KDE4 is like Vista
05:47.44Jejembeautiful, and.... hem beautiful
05:47.58EnginAZarin: I have done that. I have two monitors working. It's just KDE not playing along well.
05:48.03supert0nesyou see no function in kde4?
05:48.21sjraarkeJejem: and perfectly stable here, including all effects
05:48.31Jejemsjraarke: zoom in/zoom out in plasma? ;)
05:48.33EnginAZarin: i.e. when a new window appears it is palced at the center of the virtual (giant) screen. It should be at the center of the primary screen.
05:48.43ZarinEnginA, there are different TwinView modes, I don't know the name of the one you are looking for but it's not the one you are currently using :)
05:48.44sjraarkeJejem: works. like a charm
05:48.50Jejemsjraarke: you're a lucky one.
05:48.56EnginAhehe
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05:49.31EnginAZarin: so kwin takes xinerama extension into consideration and I don't hve to do anything to KDE configuration. Just need to get twinview use xinerama.
05:50.23ZarinEnginA, correct
05:50.37supert0nesya zoom in kwin works here too
05:50.40EnginAnvidia-settings doesn't appear to have any fancy options... just twinview..
05:50.41EnginA*sigh*
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05:51.28supert0nesone reason however i don't use kwin is because not until recently in 4.2 trunk had the high processor usage of kwin been fixed
05:51.40supert0neshopefully that will make it into 4.1.1
05:52.05ZarinNot into 4.1.1
05:52.13ZarinUnless your distro decides to backport
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05:53.11Jejem=$
05:53.36oneforallkde 3.5.9 how do I restart dcopserver? when I try to open konq I get the error
05:53.40supert0nesahh thats alright i wouldnt give up compiz anyway
05:53.51Jejemoneforall: and what about hem.... "hi" ?
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06:04.43sparrhow can i get kde['s mixer] to stop overriding my "alsactl store"d mixer settings?  every time i reboot my output devices are muted once kde starts.
06:05.07Jejemsparr: and what about hem.... "hi" ?
06:06.01sparrJejem: a) i said hi about 6 years ago when i first joined this channel.  b) saying it since then has had no good, and some bad, affect on my ability to receive help
06:06.16sparrexaggerates
06:06.55Jejemyou come and ask for help without even saying hi to people around, lol
06:07.02Jejemexaggerate somewhere else, so.
06:07.39oneforallof all the times I've been in here , you are the only one that said that
06:07.40sparryou want me to say hi, to people i dont know, every time i join?
06:08.22Jejemwhen you ask for help, yeah, why not ?
06:08.25Jejemthat will kill you?
06:08.41sparrwhat about when ive just been idle for a week?  i dont reboot often, the fact that i joined right before asking that was a coincidence
06:08.50sparrim in here 90% of the time
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06:09.05Jejembad coincidence heh
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06:10.09Jejemoneforall: i'm not the only one, but i'm ok with telling that everyday
06:10.17Jejemnot like some others who only tell it one time ;)
06:11.30Jejemi'm like... tired of some guys who are "*join* gimme that !" "what about sayin hi?" "fuck you"
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06:14.10sparri'm like... tired of people who are "*join* follow my rules!"
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06:16.26Jejemohhh being polite is sooo hard...
06:16.27EnginA*sigh*
06:16.44Jejemthat's a very hard rule, sure...
06:16.47Jejemoh my god...
06:16.49JucatoI'm like... tired of this offtopic diversion. so enough
06:16.50Jejemyou'll die from that...
06:17.06EnginAI've did what nvidia docs say... are you sure it can't be kwin who doesn't take xinerama into consideration ?
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06:17.23ZarinIt does take it into consideration
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06:17.33JucatoJejem: saying "hi" before asking a question is not a requirement. it's up to the person if he so wishes to do so. please stop "greeting" every question with "how about hem... hi"
06:17.34ZarinI'm running it right now :)
06:17.35Firztspawnanyone here using gentoo?
06:17.49JucatoFirztspawn: #gentoo-kde people most probably do
06:17.56EnginAthere's nothing about this on google too.. something is wrong
06:18.06Firztspawnok ty Jucato
06:18.09JejemJucato: be a bot if you want...
06:18.37lilltigerEnginA: there is alot on google about it, and alot of it on the nvnews forum for linux
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06:20.15EnginAlilltiger: do I have to crawl for information ?
06:20.20EnginAisn't this common stuff
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06:28.28Che-AnarcAnyone using surround sound?... I only seem to be able to get sound out of Front L+R.
06:29.38drantindoes alsamixer have the option to let you use surround?
06:29.45drantinor rather, 4-6 speaker setups?
06:31.45Che-Anarcdrantin  well it has the differnt chan volumes for center, etc.
06:32.26drantinalso, kmix... didn't realize what channel this was...
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06:34.01Che-Anarcdrantin  I get the channels in kmixer just no sound.... I'm using speaker-test and even via splayer no sound.... dont know if wires have to physically be connected in a certian way  :-s
06:34.54drantindunno, but I do have an option in kmix to use different "channel modes" off to the side
06:35.11drantinwith options of 2ch,4ch,6ch,8ch ...
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06:43.23lilltigerEnginA: you could at least try to find it, and i said where to look for it
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07:45.54PatrocloHi... I've a problem with KDE 4. Kded4 crash and in the log I see this message "Parsing failed (3)": "The namespace prefix in "semn:" was not declared." (line:9, column: -1). Do you know the solution to solve this problem?
07:49.18gkiagiaPatroclo: do you have a backtrace? what distro are you using?
07:49.36PatrocloUbuntu.. but I compile kde from trunck
07:49.52PatrocloThis is my log...
07:49.53Patroclo19 [main] INFO org.openrdf.query.parser.QueryParserRegistry - Registered service class org.openrdf.query.parser.serql.SeRQLParserFactory
07:49.53Patroclo19 [main] INFO org.openrdf.query.parser.QueryParserRegistry - Registered service class org.openrdf.query.parser.sparql.SPARQLParserFactory
07:49.53PatrocloKWrited - Listening on Device /dev/pts/3
07:49.53Patroclo(Soprano::PluginManager) loaded plugin from "/opt/kde4/lib/soprano/libsoprano_raptorparser.so"
07:49.55Patroclo"/opt/kde4/bin/kded4(7315)" Error in thread 3054782240 : "Parsing failed (3)": "The namespace prefix in "semn:" was not declared." (line:9, column: -1)
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07:51.27gkiagiacould be a soprano issue
07:51.45gionnicoHi! Should k3b and konqueror svn be ok now?
07:51.51gkiagiadoes it crash silently or does it show a window that says kded4 has crashed?
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07:52.27PatrocloIt's show a window
07:52.57Patroclogkiagia, so you suggest to re-download soprano and recompile all?
07:53.15gkiagiayes, update soprano
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07:53.53gkiagiabtw, in the window that says kded4 has crashed, you could get a bakctrace by clicking the checkbox... that is more useful than the log
07:54.54gionnicomay you look at this: http://rafb.net/p/gniTGS30.html it's the k3b compilation log
07:55.00gionnicoif you recognize a known problem in it..
07:56.31drantingionnico: just tried konqueror after you asked, didn't build for me...
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07:56.53gkiagiagionnico: that's a wierd error... it says make: *** [all] Error 2 but it doesn't show what causes the error
07:57.04gionnicoyes indeed...
07:57.26gionnico:/ maybe if I compile with debug it shows something more
07:58.00Patroclogionnico, have you got problem compiling KDE 4 trunck?
07:58.10gionnicoyes trunk
07:58.19Patroclowith kdebase?
07:58.19gionnicok3b at the beginning shows me this:
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07:58.37gionnicoPatroclo .. with everything
07:59.18PatrocloI don't understand.. I'm compiling kde 4 from trunk but Seems that I've not problem on compile
08:00.17darius12does nepomuk work?
08:00.32gionnicoi've compiled about 2 hundred packages
08:00.38gionnico(in gentoo they've splitted everything)
08:00.48gionniconow k3b stopped
08:00.57gionnicoand I tried going on and also konqueror stopped..
08:01.05darius12I 'm trying to do simple stuff like add a tag to a file from dolphin and view all the files with that tag from folderview but nothing :(
08:01.31PatrocloI don't compile k3b
08:01.47Patroclobut konqueror seems to compile
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08:02.09drantingionnico: genkdesvn, or kdesvn-portage ?
08:02.33gionnicokdesvn-portage
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08:04.55gionnicokcm just compiled fine
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08:06.37gionnicoMy gcc profile: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.1 ; CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe" same CXXFLAGS
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08:09.32Patroclogkiagia, I have investigate bettere on my problem.. seems a libraptor problem. Where is raptor to try to recompilied it?
08:09.35gionnicoplasma-workspace compiled just fine .. so my problem is konqueror and k3b
08:09.56gionnicopatroclo: mine prob?
08:10.01Patroclogionnico, can you have a dependence problem?
08:10.09PatrocloNo gionnico.. I have another problem
08:10.38gionnicoi've media-libs/raptor-1.4.18
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08:11.55gionnicowell if it was a dep problem .. it should have told me
08:12.02gionnicolike missing header or wrong function
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08:14.03gkiagiaPatroclo: I don't know :(
08:14.33Patroclono problem gkiagia .. thank you
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08:28.20luna1hi :-) anyone knows the state of actual trunk ? in those days with the introduction of new desktop containers all is broken (this question is 'coz i'm preparing a gentoo unstable system and i want to know if is a good time to compile trunk)
08:28.30Che-AnarcAny reasons why /etc/init.d/alsasound save does not have my settings / each time it is reset to HDMI output on graphics card and I have to do aslaconfig each time.  This seems to be a kde issue where it reset this each time restart kde.
08:29.05lemmaluna1: unless you need it for production use I'd just keep updating your svn until it works fine :)
08:30.10luna1lemma: yep
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08:30.19lemmaChe-Anarc: it seems more like a problem with your distribution
08:30.23gkiagiaChe-Anarc: if kde changes it, then it's kmix that changes it. disable saving/loading state from kmix
08:30.50lemmaChe-Anarc: do you have several alsa audio sources enabled?
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08:31.15darius12now that nepomuk is driving strigi indexing, how do you search what is indexed?
08:31.33darius12I have nepomuk-kde compiled fresh from playground
08:32.15Che-Anarclemma  I think so... anyway in root it shows it as the correct device... its only in user account that its on the wrong thing.
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08:32.34Che-Anarclemma  when I do alsaconf it shows up 2 devices.
08:32.51lemmaChe-Anarc: but why do you have to rerun alsaconfig? isn't that supposed to be run only for loading the right alsa modules for the card?
08:33.04lemmaChe-Anarc: does it show the 2 devices even before running alsaconfig?
08:33.19Che-Anarclemma  where?
08:34.04lemmaChe-Anarc: if you login to kde and list the devices (eg "aplay -L"), do you see both of them right away or only after running alsaconf?
08:34.10Che-Anarcbasically if I could get alsaconf to apply the same settings for all users that would be good... since alsamixer on root gives correct details where as on user its set to hdmi output of vga.
08:35.11lemmaChe-Anarc: do you have different ~/.asoundrc files for root and the users?
08:35.24gionnicoa
08:35.27lemmaChe-Anarc: or is it only the kde settings that's not being saved?
08:35.30gionnicoluna1: i'm compiling kde-svn right now
08:35.39gionnicok3b konqueror umbrella didn't work
08:36.11gionnicoI setup a 2 bell script so that I know when it worked fine and when it worked wrong
08:36.43Che-Anarclemma  I dont have ~/.asoundrc
08:37.04gionnicoluna1: and have compiled kde-svn a few days ago in another pc
08:37.16luna1yes k3b is in porting
08:37.27luna1not completed yet
08:38.36lemmaChe-Anarc: sorry, I don't know what the problem might be. but I'm not sure if it's related to kde at all. did you also try by logging in with a different desktop environment / window manager?
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08:39.33luna1gionnico: i've ask because i have try the trunk and in those days nothing work, especially with bars. this situasion occurs when new desktop containments are implemented
08:39.59Che-Anarclemma  its really strange if I su... then do alsaconf it sets everything fine and saves it that way... but if exit back into user account and do alsamixer it shows no changes.
08:40.10luna1so i wanna know if this is "a good moment" to compile
08:40.48lemmaChe-Anarc: I think to trace this methodically you should try to find out what that alsaconf really changes
08:40.57gionnicoah well .. the code isn't broken
08:41.04gionnicoif the desktop works i still don't know
08:41.42Che-Anarclemma alsaconf doesnt seem to save anything... and even after I dont the setup if I do /init.d/alsasound save,stop,start  it reverts back.
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08:45.00lemmaChe-Anarc: sorry, I really don't seem to know enough about alsa to help here. I'd suggest also asking in your distribution's channel - they might know more
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08:45.19lemmaChe-Anarc: and apart from that I have to leave right now. but I wish you good luck for solving your sound problem
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08:48.32darius12It seems, that nepomuk-aware folderview kinda works now
08:49.27darius12you can tag things and they immediately show in folderview :-)
08:50.20darius12of course it is slooooow, but it shows potential. If only we knew the syntax of nepomuksearch: ...
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09:14.25brain0hi. I have kde 4.1 installed and still have kdelibs 3.5.10. now I don't have kcontrol anymore. how do I set the style of kde3 applications?
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09:17.01gkiagiabrain0: try with qtconfig (the qt3 version) or reinstall kcontrol
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09:17.24brain0gkiagia: is setting it with qtconfig enough
09:17.34gkiagiabrain0: you can also edit the config file if you know the style that you want
09:17.42brain0I can't reinstall kcontrol, unless I compile kdebase myself
09:17.43gkiagiabrain0: I am not sure about that...
09:17.47brain0well, what configuration would I edit
09:17.50brain0that is the question?
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09:18.13lemmawaybrain0: try "kcmshell style" on the commandline
09:18.32brain0kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'style'.
09:18.37lemmawaybrain0: but it only works if the control center style module for kde3 is still there
09:18.48brain0that is part of kdebase as well
09:19.06lemmawaybrain0: likely, yes :)
09:20.08brain0I still have filelight, k3b, kdesvn and ksensors that require kdelibs3
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09:20.21gkiagiabrain0: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals under the [General] group, widgetStyle= line
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09:23.05brain0gkiagia: thanks, that looks more like qtcurve now
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09:23.44MarmirusHallo! I have question about dbus. is it possible to control kmix via dbus interface? how? in kde3 everything was simple via dcop.
09:24.37brain0hmm, is knetload still being developed?
09:25.51gkiagiaMarmirus: yes it is. use qdbus to see the services and methods that it provides
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09:26.19kWHey, does anybody know how "khotkeys" is started when logging in?
09:26.31brain0from my experience, khotkeys is broken in 4.1
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09:27.20gkiagiakW: afaik it's a kde service loaded inside kded as a plugin
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09:27.51Marmirusgkiagia, wow! thank you! all clear with qdbus. i was trying via dbus-send :)
09:28.05kWgkiagia: for some reason, all settings I do in kcontrol are not applied when loggin in again
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09:28.12kWgkiagia: however, kcontrol remembers them
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09:28.51gkiagiakW: strange, I don't know
09:28.58kWgkiagia: I see "kded" beeing started with "--new-startup": "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup"
09:29.08kWgkiagia: is it possible that this is the reason settings are not applied?
09:30.18gkiagiawell, I don't know much about how kded works... and the --new-startup option is not even documented
09:31.08kWmhh :-(
09:31.27gkiagiakW: kde version?
09:31.36kWgkiagia: 3.5.9
09:31.45kWused to be in some previous versions, too (like 3.5.7)
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09:32.17gkiagiaI remember that it worked for me back in 3.5.x times
09:32.26kWgkiagia: mhh
09:33.02gkiagiait's pretty broken in 4.x, though, that's a known issue
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09:45.49Che-AnarchSimple question but how to make Konqueror show all files with permissions,etc? like  ls -la
09:46.06gkiagiause details view
09:46.16brain0and enable hidden files
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09:46.56Che-Anarchthanks
09:47.07gionnicoi've got a problem with kipi-plugin trunk
09:47.07gionnico11:43 < gionnico> http://rafb.net/p/3l1sMg43.html
09:47.14gionnicothat's the pastebin log
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09:53.26Jucatogionnico: you might want to ask in #gentoo-kde or #genkdesvn (whichever gentoo channel caters to the kdesvn ebuilds)
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09:54.22gionnicodid you see my ip or mail address when I logged in?
09:54.32gionnicobecause I don't think so but I don't know
09:55.22CyBaHhi all
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09:59.02brain0tony_: maybe you should ask in a ubuntu channel
10:00.38Jucatotony_: #kubuntu-kde4 please
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10:01.16tony_ok, thanks
10:05.14Fyl0nI've upgraded KDE today to 3.5.10 and the only problem that I have at the moment is that my external taskbar isn't tranparent anymore..
10:05.14Fyl0nHow can I fix this?
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10:07.20regomododoes anyone else have major issues resizing a konsole window?
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10:08.07friedrich|there is some kio_http using big parts of my cpu :/
10:08.23friedrich|although I have no konqueror or similar opened.
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10:12.23kWHello, does anybody know when at the startup process KDE applies the mouse settings? In my case, after logging in, the mouse settings are always wrong (acceleration is set) while kcontrol shows the correct values. Only after hitting "apply" in kcontrol after logging in, the settings are applied.
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10:17.50gwenn_hello
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10:21.06holycowhi guys
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10:21.36holycowdoes anyone find that kmail works really weird with imap accounts?
10:21.58holycowi have 4 and whenever i click bewteen then it starts a new imap query of some sort, deletes all the new email then recreates this
10:22.25holycowi don't mind too much i'm using it on kde4 because its time to start trying to use it and contribute bug reports back
10:22.37holycowbut just curious if i'm theonly one or other users have run into this as well
10:23.14vesuvhi there.
10:23.29vesuvis there something similiar to os x growl for kde?
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10:25.15Jucatoholycow: you could try asking about the state of IMAP support in kmail in #kontact
10:25.20holycowoh aha
10:25.22holycowdanke
10:25.32Jucatovesuv: um... it would help you described what "growl" is
10:25.41Jucato(not everyone has had the (dis)pleasure of using OS X)
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10:26.25vesuvJucato: it's a "global notification system for the mac os x operating system"
10:26.36vesuvJucato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growl_(software)
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10:27.43holycowvesuv: kde4 uses dbus
10:27.46holycowwhy do you ask?
10:27.57Jucatobut notifications are mostly on a per-app basis
10:28.07holycowor i'm misundertanding what growl does
10:28.34holycowyeah well both gnome and kde3 and kde4 have underlying messaging built into the framework
10:28.41holycowits up to the applications to implement support for it
10:28.42holycowmostly
10:28.53holycowpeople think the sorts of things you see on a mac are stupid and useless
10:29.02holycowon the other hand, mac users disagree
10:29.03holycow:)
10:29.04Jucato"Growl is a notification system for Mac OS X: it allows applications that support Growl to send you notifications." <--- well that's really similar to KDE and KNotify
10:29.05vesuvholycow: because i'm playing around with mozilla ubiquity and it's using growl with os x. they don't support linux as well as other os, because they didn't seem to find (?) the right notification system
10:29.08vesuvhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity/Ubiquity_0.1_User_Tutorial
10:29.19holycowthats idiotic
10:29.24holycowwell its also mozilla
10:29.32holycowthey generally are windows centric
10:29.36vesuvstill, ubiquity is pretty amazing
10:29.57holycowwe had to drag them kicking and screaming to actually fix huge portions of the underlying configuration bits to be unix friendly
10:30.12holycowbasically just write off mozilla as a project thats nice to have so there is competition for microsoft
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10:30.40holycowon the whole they leave a lot to be desired, considering the large quantities of cash they have manage to generate
10:31.16vesuvi have to disagree on that
10:31.41holycowallright, go ahead :)
10:31.41vesuvbut it's not important right now. i'll talk to aza and will show him knotify
10:32.14vesuvit seems to be the best analogy to growl right now.
10:32.21Jucatovesuv: I'm imagining they could make some clever d-bus stuff so that anyone can connect to their notifications
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10:32.45vesuvJucato: thanks, i will forward that as well.
10:32.48holycowof course they could
10:32.56holycowvesuv: may i make a recommendation?
10:32.58holycowdon't
10:33.02holycowmozilla knows about dbus
10:33.23holycowthey aren't exactly unfamiliar with linux frameworks
10:33.37holycowthere may indeed be a reason they didn't use dbus that i'm not aware of
10:33.41vesuvof course they do, but sometimes it helps to talk to some people to start new developments
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10:34.20holycowbut the general topic with the mozilla team isn't about whether or not they know a b or c exists
10:34.24holycowits about whether or not they care
10:34.28holycowand the answer is they don't
10:34.34holycowthey make their money from windows users via google
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10:34.53vesuvlinux users are using google too.
10:35.04holycowif you were to look at the money they make
10:35.11thiagowhat's Google? :-P
10:35.12holycowlinux users would roughly be 2% of revenue
10:35.14holycowi'm guessing
10:35.18Jucatonotes that this is #kde, for KDE support, not "let's talk about Mozilla and Google"
10:35.21holycowbut it really is that insignificant imho
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10:35.36Jucato#kde-chat if you want to continue
10:35.38vesuvJucato: you're right. :)
10:35.39holycowalrighty, sorry, right pointless, vesuv if you get them to do something about it all cool :)
10:35.55vesuvi'll try
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10:36.25vesuvthanks for the help guys, i'm a newbie to kde ... at least to 4.1
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10:41.44rootis there anybody who can help me about a topic
10:41.49root?
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10:42.42Guest59177anyone interested in HLR Systems her e?
10:42.56Guest59177is there anyone alive up hereeeeeeeee ?
10:43.03Guest59177can anyone heaaaaarrrrrrr meeeeee ?
10:43.31thiagono
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10:43.40Guest59177no
10:43.41Guest59177?
10:43.45thiagocorrect
10:43.45Guest59177what is no ?
10:43.53thiagoyou've been in the channel for the whole of 2 minutes
10:43.53Guest59177NO I am not interested ?
10:43.56thiagoand you didn't ask a question
10:44.07thiagothat's why you didn't get an answer
10:44.08Guest59177yes I asked a question
10:44.12thiagono, you didn't
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10:44.24Guest59177I asked if somebody can help me about HLR Systems
10:44.26thiagomake a non-vague question, relating to KDE.
10:44.39thiagono one can help you
10:44.43thiagowe don't know what your problem is.
10:45.00thiagoif you want help, you have to say what your problem is.
10:45.01Guest59177how on earth you can speak on behalf of everyone ?
10:45.11thiagoas far as I know, no one here has a crystal ball
10:45.30JucatoGuest59177: we can't help you if we don't know what your problem is
10:45.31thiagoso no one can help you without knowing what your problem is.
10:45.46thiagoin other words: don't ask if someone can help you, just ask your question.
10:45.47blauzahlor we can just happily tell you that the answer is 42 and send you on your way
10:45.48thiagoalso mind you: KDE-related.
10:45.50Jucatoand even if we do, we might not be able to help you if it is not a KDE problem
10:45.57blauzahlK42
10:46.09Guest59177allright
10:46.15Guest59177thanks anyway
10:46.21Guest59177;)
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10:47.03gsteinertGuest59177: well then, whats your problem?
10:47.25Guest59177actually my problem is this
10:47.30Guest59177i am working on Hlr systems
10:47.47Guest59177i mean GSM Networking
10:48.02thiagowhat's the relation to KDE?
10:48.22thiagoI guess his GSM networking problem is that his connection drops :-P
10:48.30gsteinerti thikn
10:48.41gsteinert*i think he needs to get the hang of IRC first!
10:48.55gsteinertand i think i need to get the hang of typing :S
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10:50.43gsteinerti realise its not strictly a kde question, but ivetried the ubuntu channel with no success. my other box keeps shutting down randomly after i mount a second internal hard drive
10:51.22gsteinertit seems to be a remote shutdown-type-thing from root (similar to the reboot command just no rebooting!!)
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10:56.19markumani've some problems with kmail. i had to import 1,5 GB mail folders from thunderbird - works fine, but can i rename the folders after import in kmail?
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11:11.22aantipopi cant find a "show desktop" plasmoid, is there any ?
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11:12.36gionnicoHello! Is there a default IRC client for KDE-trunk?
11:12.45gionnicoI'm using IRSSI on konsole now: that's crazy!
11:13.21brain0irssi is great!
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11:18.07gkiagiagionnico: there is konversation for kde3... irssi is good though, I am using irssi too
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11:21.49gionnicoah thanks gkiagia.. someone suggested me kvir
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11:22.53arturo_on_railsHi all, what's the way forward in KDE to sync with a PDA?
11:23.03arturo_on_railsI man, what does everybody use?
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11:24.09thorbenarturo_on_rails: KPilot if you got a palm?
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11:26.04arturo_on_railsthorben: I have angstrom-distribution + GPE on a hx4700 (ipaq)
11:26.25arturo_on_railsthorben: it supports multisync AFAIK, but does KDE support this?
11:26.42arturo_on_railsthorben: trying to find out info but pretty lost.
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11:31.47thorbenarturo_on_rails: Hmm, no idea other than that
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11:40.04arturo_on_railsthorben: ok, thx
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11:56.01Half-Left4.1.1 tagging today
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11:56.34tomoldsI just installed KDE 4.1 and I was playing around with the effects. Having switched a few on, I pressed Apply and then my c
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11:57.01tomolds...screen messed up it moved the whole screen down and went off the bottom of the screen but I can still move the mouse cursor around the whole screen, any ideas?
11:57.47Half-Lefttomolds: can you Alt, f2?
11:57.54tomoldsYes I can
11:58.36Half-Lefttype system and go into systemsettings and disable it
11:58.40tomoldsHalf-Left: should I just remove ~/.kde?
11:58.47Half-LeftNo
11:59.04tomoldsAlt-F2 gives me nothing I would have to go to another term
11:59.10tomoldsHence I could not have a graphical app
11:59.31Half-Leftrestart kwin
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11:59.41tomoldsokay
11:59.49tomoldsWhat should I type at the terminal?
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12:00.05Half-Leftyep, just killall kwin
12:00.39tomoldsokay done that but cannot get back to the term with KDE on it, what number does it usually run on
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12:01.00Half-Leftis plasma running?
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12:01.52Half-LeftLooks like you'll have to Ctrl, Alt, Backspace to restart KDE4
12:02.33tomoldsYes I can restart X but I cannot get onto the tty containing X
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12:02.59Half-LeftJust do that on the blank screen
12:03.18tomoldsHalf-Left: I did, to no avail
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12:03.59Half-LeftRestart X
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12:05.19tomoldsWhen loading the splash all is normal
12:05.49tomoldsIt is only when it has loaded my desktop is visible for about an inchand the mouse cursor can move around the whole screen
12:05.51Half-LeftI should make sure you have it setup right for composite
12:05.57tomoldsright clicking gives me nothing.
12:06.41Half-Leftok
12:06.53Half-LeftAlt, F2
12:07.00Half-Leftand type plasma
12:07.19tomoldsI'm on it.
12:07.39Jucatotomolds: does everything look big? like zoomed in?
12:08.05Jucatobtw, to restart kwin, all you need is "kwin --replace"
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12:08.13tomoldsNot really if anything it is smaller because I had a clock widget and that is much smaller and in a different position.
12:09.06Jucatotomolds: this was after you enabled KWin Desktop Effects (in system settings)?
12:09.06tomoldsNow some of my other screen has appeared. But I cannot click on anything
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12:09.29tomoldsThe clock has the second hand but it only refreshes like every 30 seconds or so
12:09.35tomoldsstrange problem
12:09.47Half-LeftIs desktop effects still on?
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12:10.05tomoldsHalf-Left: Well I would imagine so, I cannot even right click though
12:10.17Half-LeftCan you get to system settings?
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12:10.50tomoldsHalf-Left: Nope
12:10.56Half-LeftWhat happens?
12:12.13Half-LeftJucato: Does your logout take a while to work?
12:12.26JucatoHalf-Left: hm?
12:12.38Half-LeftJucato: Long delay on logout?
12:12.45Jucatonope
12:12.45tomoldsWell I can't click on anything because nothing is clickable and my panel is not in view.
12:12.52Half-LeftHow long?
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12:13.12JucatoHalf-Left: I can't really recall. because I have not logged out in a long while
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12:13.48tomoldsHalf-Left: I can SSH in with X now from another box and get the system settings dialog maybe, what is the term command?
12:13.51Half-LeftJucato: Logout takes about 10 seconds here and then sometimes goes white and back in, can't logout again after :/
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12:14.35Half-Lefttomolds: I think theres a kde safe login or term, just run systemsettings from there
12:16.16tomoldsIt says something interesting there that: Compositing is not supported in your system. X extensions are not available: XComposite and XDamage
12:17.22Half-LeftDid you compile?
12:18.02Half-LeftBecause if you compiled without that x libs you need then composite wont work
12:18.27Half-LeftWhich is says
12:18.33Half-Leftit*
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12:33.27rapsyshi, someone know where i may contact gwenview kde developpers ?
12:33.47thiagorapsys: email or #kde-devel
12:34.23rapsysthx
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12:36.41adamthow do i make the run-dialog look in all of my $PATH? (4.1)
12:37.24gkiagiait looks in $PATH....
12:37.41gkiagiabut you have to type the whole name of the application
12:37.44adamtno it doesn't
12:37.54adamtoh, you're right
12:38.21adamtwhy doesn't it try to complete stuff from /usr/local/bin/ ?
12:38.59gkiagiacompletion to any executable is not implemented and it doesn't make much sense too
12:39.45gkiagiabecause there are many command line applications that cannot be run from krunner
12:40.00gkiagiaso, it completes only applications that provide a .desktop file
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12:41.51adamtgkiagia: quasselclient provides a .desktop-file, but no completion .. run-diag might need to be restarted though :P
12:42.19icecruncherhey, can anyone tell me how to manage sessions.. I'd like to disable switching sessions
12:43.40gkiagiaadamt: you probably need to run kbuildsycoca4
12:44.15icecruncherthis is for kde 3.5
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12:44.56gkiagiaicecruncher: what do you mean by "switching sessions" ?
12:45.41adamtgkiagia: ah yes. thanks.
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12:45.47icecruncherwell, instead of logging out, you can start a new x session. often used when an account is locked
12:46.11gkiagiaah, that kind of session
12:47.21icecruncheryes
12:47.22gkiagiano idea. that must be a kdm option
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12:56.09Vinny``when I maximize a window in kde4.1 on dual screens it will not maximize on just one screen but both. Xinerama seems to be working fine. Twinview/nvidia card.
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12:58.01concernedcitizenany firefox users here?
12:58.30concernedcitizenfirefox seems to be rendering textfields on kde w/o any borders
12:58.44concernedcitizenit seems to be blending with the page, and so most of the time, I got no idea where the textfields are
12:59.03gkiagiaconcernedcitizen: you could try to change the gtk style
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12:59.29gkiagiathat reminds me of an old oxygen bug with konqueror...
12:59.43concernedcitizenhow do I do that again?
12:59.55concernedcitizeno wai found it
13:00.47gkiagiaVinny``: I thought this was a twinview "feature"... does it work differently with kde 3.5 or gnome?
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13:01.42gkiagiaI have tried twinview once with kde 4.0.x and I didn't like it because of that :)
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13:31.22Guest57858hi, tell me in which repos i can find kde 4.1?
13:31.29Guest57858it was released a long time ago
13:31.34Guest57858and i can still se no upgrades
13:31.43jazkadepends on your distro
13:31.50Guest57858kubuntu 8.04
13:31.56jazka#kubuntu-kde4
13:32.03Guest57858ok
13:32.15jazkahttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 or this
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13:39.29FrostFelinehey
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13:46.18chrisinajarok, so I have an app that, sometimes, deletes and recreates a desktop icon really fast... it seems that kdesktop doesn't realize that the item came back, so it doesn't show the icon on the desktop even though it's in the desktop folder... Is there a way to //force// kdesktop to reload itself relatively seemlessly... this is on gutsy with kde 3.something
13:46.54chrisinajarseamlessly meaning with as little blinking, flashing, flickering, or anything similar as possible...
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13:50.57neverendingochrisinajar: maybe you can try "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface refresh" in a konsole
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13:55.06FrostFelineIf I use gtk-engine-qt are GTK libraries still loaded into RAM for GTK calling apps?
13:55.18FrostFeline(Using this inside of KDE)
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13:56.11FrostFelineis flipping all his softs to QT where possible
13:56.47gkiagiaFrostFeline: yes, gtk-qt-engine is just a gtk theme
13:57.02gionnicoHi! I'm a kde-trunk very new user
13:57.07FrostFelineah
13:57.15FrostFelineI'm going to miss firefox
13:57.15gionnicoI was trying to personalize the bottom panel
13:57.24gionnicoi'm going to miss konqueror
13:57.29gionnicosince it's not building now
13:57.33gionnicoand I'm with links2 :p
13:57.41gionnicoand .. you could also use firefox ;)
13:57.47FrostFelineWell until that QT version that's in development
13:58.04FrostFelineCOmes out
13:58.07gionnicoor you could also use the gtk. but the qt version rox! well.. trying to personalize.
13:58.25FrostFelineMaybe it wont have these graphical glitchess
13:58.27FrostFeline:P
13:58.39gionnicobut.. if I put (most of) an applet in this panel
13:58.44gkiagia...which isn't so much of a qt port... rather than a custom version that draws cairo widgets using QPainter ;)
13:58.47gionnicoit uses all the available space
13:58.51gionnicoand I can't put another applet
13:58.55gionnicois there any separator?
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13:59.49FrostFelineWell I want to trim some fat off my system
13:59.54gionnicoi'm really stuck
13:59.59FrostFelineSo I'm sticking with my preferred DE
14:00.05gkiagiagionnico: it's meant to be like that. you can add new applets in the left or right side and it will adjust itself
14:00.17gionnicouhm.. it doesnt' though
14:00.24gionnicoa red forbidden appears
14:00.45gkiagiawhat about using the "add widget" button from that dialog?
14:01.00gkiagiaconsidering that you have opened the dialog from the panel
14:01.20gionnico..i've opened it from the right of the panel
14:01.21gionnicothen?
14:01.28gionnicoadd widget.. that's what I done
14:01.29gionnicothen?
14:01.44gionnicoi've added the clock
14:01.48gionniconow it uses all the space
14:01.53gionnicoi can't add the news reader
14:02.01gkiagiaclick the news reader in the dialog
14:02.07gkiagiaand click the add widget button
14:02.23gionnicoah..
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14:02.31gionnicook you should work on this though
14:02.33gionnico!!!
14:02.40gionnicothanks
14:02.47gkiagiasure, tell that to the plasma developers :)
14:02.56gkiagiabut I think they are already aware of it
14:03.26gionnicolol
14:03.34FrostFelineHehe
14:03.37gionniconews go over everything in the bar
14:03.43FrostFelineWell I like what I see in KDE4
14:03.45FrostFeline:o)
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14:04.03gionnicothis is a bug
14:04.10gionnicothat they are surely aware of
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14:05.14ESphynxAnybody knows how to restart the KDE panel without killing X?
14:05.41gkiagiaESphynx: kde3 or kde4?
14:05.52ESphynxkde3
14:06.05gkiagiakillall kicker
14:06.15gkiagiaand run again kicker to restart it
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14:06.46ESphynxAh kicker
14:06.50ESphynxis what it's called? lol
14:06.52gionnicowhere the he*k is the list of opened windows? what's the applet name?
14:07.02ESphynxthanks :)
14:07.15ESphynxgionnico: With names like Kicker, one wonders :P
14:07.24gkiagiaESphynx: yes, it used to be called like that in kde <= 3.5.x :)
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14:07.35gionnicoin kde4..
14:07.52gionnicothanks a lot gkiagia. now i know how it's called in kde4
14:07.52gionnicolol
14:08.03gkiagiait's called plasma in kde4 :P
14:08.27gionnico..?
14:08.31gionnicoi don't have the plasma applet
14:08.46Theoryit's the Task Manager plasma applet iirc
14:08.57gkiagiagionnico: I am not talking about the task manager applet that you are looking for
14:09.08gkiagiagionnico: I am talking about the whole panel
14:09.15gkiagiaand the whole desktop in general
14:09.32gionnicook yes kiker was the whole panel, too
14:09.38gionnicotask manager
14:09.40gionnico:)
14:10.18ESphynxthanks guys.
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14:11.48gionnicoevery applet goes both into the panel and free in the desktop
14:11.55gionnicothat's cool. even if isn't well integrated
14:12.39gionnicovista used your code for the analog clock but for plasma in general i'm sure
14:13.23gionnicothe calendar of the digital clock
14:13.26gionnicohas a too small size
14:13.34gionnicoso there are scroll bars
14:13.47gionnicomakes no sense .. and one can't resize it
14:14.23brain0"every applet goes both into the panel and free in the desktop" as of KDE 4.1, most applets look like crap when embedded in the taskbar
14:14.31Half-LeftVista?
14:14.45gionnicoyes the graphical interface is too similar
14:15.19gionnicowhat is qt-subapplication?
14:15.29gionnicocan I close it? if I do it's gone forever :p
14:16.13gionnicoit's a desktop inside the desktop, isn't it?
14:16.28Half-LeftWidget inside a widget
14:16.44gionnicobut how to add it again?
14:16.46gionnicoif I would
14:17.10Half-LeftJust Add Widgets
14:17.24FrostFelinehm
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14:17.44FrostFelineWhat's opera, QT or GTK? The widgets don't make it obvious
14:17.54Half-LeftQt
14:17.56gionniconope..
14:18.21Half-LeftIt's there own widgets, has nothign to do with Plasma
14:18.58gionnicoah well but where is it?
14:19.13Half-LeftWhere is what?
14:19.50FrostFelineAh well
14:20.02Half-LeftRight Click Desktop-->Add Widgets or click on the plasma icon on the side of the panel
14:20.09FrostFelineI can live with it, It's only using 42M of ram instead of 3hundred
14:20.23FrostFelineis using KDE3 so plasma is like lolwut
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14:21.03gionnicoHalf-Left: and I don't find qt-subapplication
14:21.07gionnico(or how was it called)
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14:21.26Half-LeftWhat exactly do you mean?
14:21.37gionnicoi had a window
14:21.38FrostFelineFlash loaded :)
14:21.47gionnicocalled qt-something
14:21.52gionnicoit came up the first time i started kde
14:21.55gionnicoi've closed it
14:22.00gionnicohow can i get it back?
14:22.50FrostFelinenoticed a distinct slowdown xD
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14:23.26gionnicoi've got a problem: with desktop effects windows take 4-5 seconds to maximize/minimize
14:23.47gionnicoor better maximize/restore
14:24.17gkiagianvidia?
14:24.25gionnicoyup
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14:24.33gkiagiaknown problem
14:24.35gkiagia:)
14:24.37gionnicoah ok
14:24.40gionnicogood xd
14:24.41Mitsuopossible to cancel kate backups?
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14:24.59gkiagiagionnico: it's a bug in the nvidia driver, though
14:25.05gkiagianot much we can do about it
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14:25.16Half-LeftWHAT, nvidia slow in 2d, No way.........!&*$
14:25.22gionnicoi had heard about it.
14:25.23Half-Left:p
14:25.29gionnicoyou told the nvidia devs
14:25.35gionnicothey usually listen to "us"
14:25.37gkiagialol Half-Left
14:25.54gkiagiaMitsuo: yes
14:25.57gionnicohehe i'd rather a 3d fast desktop
14:26.15gkiagiaMitsuo: in the saving options in kate's config dialog
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14:27.10gkiagiagionnico: we've had endless discussions about the nvidia trouble in here
14:27.21gkiagiagionnico: and of course, nvidia knows about it
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14:31.58hasshi, can somebody tell me if this is a known error? http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde4li6.jpg
14:32.11hassdesktop does not take all the screen size :/
14:33.04gkiagiahass: I have seen this many times
14:33.35hassgkiagia, great I'm not hopeless then :>
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14:35.41gkiagiahass: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163676 ?
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14:37.34hassthanks gkiagia :)
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16:01.16StyXmaniandeb: seems like not much latelly :(
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16:24.41chlueHello. I am in the progress of trying kde4.1, but it seems that the ipv6 problem hit me again. I allready have KDE_NO_IPV6=TRUE in /etc/environment, which solved this problem for kde 3.59. Do it need to set this at another place for kde4?
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17:13.22hurrahi
17:13.50hurrai followed the guide on kdetechbase (http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdelibs)
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17:13.54hurrabut now kdelibs won't build
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17:14.00hurrathis is trunk
17:14.23StyXmanhurra: what you mean with 'won't build"?
17:14.43hurraStyXman: http://rafb.net/p/SJibDL49.html
17:14.45hurrai get an error
17:14.49hurrawhat did i do wrong?
17:14.59hurraah, wait
17:15.01StyXmangimme a sec...
17:15.22hurramaybe my env-vars are not set correctly
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17:15.37StyXmanhmm, seems like it can't find kparts, but that is in kdelibs itself
17:15.46hurrakdelibs built just fine
17:15.51StyXmanand this is kdebase?
17:15.59hurrayeah
17:16.15StyXmanhurra: heh, you said kdelibs :)
17:16.22hurraeeh, sorry :)
17:16.29hurrai'm trying again now
17:16.58StyXmansomething's not right there
17:17.16StyXmancannot find -lkparts:/home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib/libQtGui.so
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17:18.39hurrayeah
17:18.45hurraas you can see, i'm using qt-copy
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17:20.08hurranah, same error
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17:20.44StyXmanhurra: me too®
17:20.49hurraok
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17:22.43hurrai just checked again, qt and kdelibs built fine
17:23.18StyXmanhurra: seems like a problem configuring kdebase
17:25.26hurraanyone has a hint for me?
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17:26.59StyXmanhurra: try deleting the whole build/kdebase/apps/lib/konq/, rerun cmake, and see what happens
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17:27.16hurrai already delete the build-dir of kdebase
17:27.20hurradoesn't help
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17:27.36StyXmanhmmm
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17:29.05murphIs there a way to bind the 'desktop grid' desktop effect to a mouse key (button 10) instead of a keyboard hotkey?
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17:29.10StyXmanhurra: can you confirm that libkparts exists in your $KDEDIR
17:29.13StyXman?
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17:29.44hurraStyXman: /home/kde-devel/kde/lib/libkparts.so
17:29.47hurrayes, it's there
17:30.02hurrakdedir = /home/kde-devel/kde
17:30.14StyXmanI see
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17:30.52StyXmanhurra: can you read the Makefile and see if there's a bug in its generation?
17:30.59StyXman(or paste it)
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17:31.03hurrawhat makefile?
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17:31.35hurrathe one from kdebase ?
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17:32.40StyXmanhurra: the one for kdebase/apps/lib/konq/
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17:33.01hurrai'll pastebin it
17:33.05StyXmank
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17:33.54hurraStyXman: http://rafb.net/p/CfKbgU48.html
17:34.39StyXmanhurra: no kparts reference
17:34.48hurrathat means?
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17:35.13CPrgmSwR2kde4 rulez
17:35.46StyXmanhurra: wrong Makefiel. try running make without -j, so we can be sure which part is compiling when it fails
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17:37.54hurraok, so i'm doing a make clean, and then make again
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17:38.34StyXmanok, but no -j option :-P
17:38.38hurraright
17:38.51hurrai was using the cmakekde-macro (-j2 by default)
17:39.04StyXmanhmm
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17:44.23hurraStyXman: http://rafb.net/p/aZBMNb18.html
17:44.25hurrasame error
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17:46.00StyXmanok, it was indeed the wrong Makefile. paste the one in runtime/renamedlgplugins/audio/CMakeFiles/renaudioplugin.dir/
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17:46.39hurraStyXman: there is no makefile in that dir
17:46.48StyXmanok, let's see
17:47.15hurrahttp://rafb.net/p/3A0zwu20.html
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17:48.29hurramaybe it's build.make ?
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17:50.25StyXmanhmm, seems like is the link.txt
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17:51.05hurrahttp://rafb.net/p/DPWgBr31.html
17:51.07gionnicois kde-svn gcc 4.3.1 compatible?
17:51.23gionnico'cause I can't compile k3b and konqueror, umbrello
17:51.46gionnicokipi-plugins, digikam
17:51.59gionnicoand the error is
17:51.59gionnicoLinking CXX executable k3b
17:52.03gionnico[ 94%] Built target k3b_bin
17:52.07gionnicomake: *** [all] Error 2
17:52.08gionnicoerror in LINKING..
17:52.20StyXmangionnico: doesn't mention what the error is?
17:52.25gionnicono..
17:52.42gionnicobefore: /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/libk3bdevice/k3bmsf.h:112: warning: ‘kndbgstream’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/kde/svn/include/kdebug.h:212)
17:52.46hurraStyXman: looks as it's lookin in the wrong .so-file for kparts ?
17:52.48gionnicobut deprecated isn't die
17:52.50StyXmangionnico: gcc --version
17:52.50StyXmangcc (Debian 4.3.1-9) 4.3.1
17:52.59gkiagiagionnico: do the gentoo scripts redirect stderr somwhere else?
17:53.12gionnicogcc (Gentoo 4.3.1-r1 p1.1) 4.3.1
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17:53.41gionnicoit's 1 day that I try
17:53.47gionnicoi installed all the rest
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17:54.02StyXmanhurra: not sure, what I'm sure about is that -lkparts:/home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib/libQtGui.so is wrong
17:54.07gionnicono stderr should be there
17:54.17gionnicoand the build.log is a copy
17:54.56StyXmanhurra: maybe ask in #kde-devel
17:55.04Dedicatedi have again 170% of f** IO-Wait usage and want to find out what causes it (nooo top does not work....)
17:55.24hurraStyXman: thanks!
17:55.46gionnicothe very complete log: http://rafb.net/p/UIe6iD73.html
17:56.01StyXmanDedicated: iotop?
17:57.26DedicatedStyXman: that may work, thanks
17:57.55gkiagiagionnico: would it be possible to run make with VERBOSE=1 ? like that: "make VERBOSE=1"
17:58.54gkiagiathat should show the full command line that make invokes, so it should be easier to spot the error
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17:59.41gionnicoyes works
18:00.47URBrainwashedis there a cascade in kde 3?
18:01.12gionnicohttp://rafb.net/p/DiozII29.html
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18:03.42gkiagiahm, that's not what I expected to see
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18:06.32gkiagiaah, it's ok... konqueror can't render rafb.net apparently
18:07.18gionnicoah ..
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18:08.37gkiagiagionnico: no apparent error
18:08.43gkiagiagionnico: maybe a bug in make? :P
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18:09.22URBrainwashedis there a cascade in kde 3?
18:09.39gkiagiathe question is... what is cascade?
18:09.56URBrainwashedwhere the windows are cascaded?
18:10.05thiago_homerafb.net works just fine
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18:10.30gkiagiathiago_home: that specific link does not.. try to scroll to the right and everything disappears
18:10.50gkiagiawhile in firefox it shows the rest of the line :)
18:11.01ps__hi all
18:11.08thiago_homeah, I see
18:11.08ps__where are u from?
18:11.16gkiagialine 276 for example
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18:11.20ps__just interest
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18:11.40thiago_homeupgrade to KDE 4
18:11.41gkiagiaps__: from outer space :P
18:11.49thiago_homeappears to work fine in KDE 4 for me
18:11.57gkiagiathiago_home: kde 4.1.0 here
18:12.05gkiagiamaybe it's fixed in trunk?
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18:12.23thiago_homeusing trunk here
18:12.36gkiagiahm, maybe it's fixed in trunk then
18:12.44gionnicomaybe I found the error
18:12.45gionnico/var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/src/k3bdiskinfoview.cpp: In function ‘QString<unnamed>::trackItem(const K3bMedium&, int)’:
18:12.49gionnico/var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/src/k3bdiskinfoview.cpp:215: error: expected `;' before ‘s’
18:12.53gionnico/usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b_build/CMakeFiles
18:12.57gionnico[ 90%] Building CXX object k3b/src/CMakeFiles/k3b_bin.dir/k3bthemedheader.o
18:13.07thiago_homegkiagia: ah, it disappears on line 276 still
18:13.16thiago_homeit's better than KDE 3, but still broken
18:13.46gionnicodo you think this is a blocker error?
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18:14.07gkiagiagionnico: hey! that's it!
18:14.16thiago_homeworks fine with WebKit
18:14.28gionnico:-] VERBOSE=1 USE="debug" and make with -g :D
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18:14.36thiago_homegionnico: it might be easy to fix.
18:14.38gkiagiahehe :)
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18:15.19gionnicostrange that only I couldn't compile k3b because of this
18:15.27gionnicolet's debug konqueror
18:15.33gionnicoPS should I file a bug?
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18:18.25ShellEvilSome pictures do not have preview icons on the desktop, though clicking on them launches quikshow as a valid jpg.
18:18.34ShellEvilAny thoughts as to why?
18:18.39ShellEvilIs there a filesize limit?
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18:19.11gkiagiagionnico: open that file (/var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/src/k3bdiskinfoview.cpp) find line 212 and add a semicolon (;) at the end
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18:19.39gionnicoyes.. what i'm doing
18:19.45gionnicobut do they know about this?
18:20.06gkiagiaprobably no, because the code is in #ifdef
18:20.15gkiagiaso they may not be compiling it
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18:23.06gionnicodevs NEVER debug lol
18:23.12gkiagialol
18:23.49thiago_homegionnico: is that a released version of k3b?
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18:25.19thiago_homeif not, don't file a bug report for a compilation issue
18:25.25GuyFromHellMy resizing of windows is running slow with the fancy desktop stuff (with nvidia NVS 440m). Is there a guide for recommended xorg.conf settings to fix this?
18:25.45GuyFromHell(nvs 440m == geforce 8800 i think)
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18:26.18thiago_homeGuyFromHell: disable the effects
18:26.22gionnicothiago: no svn
18:26.24gionnicotrunk
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18:26.30thiago_homethere are fixes to that, but they haven't been applied to 4.1 yet
18:26.39thiago_homeyou can compile SVN for 4.2 if you want for the fixes
18:26.45gionnicoi LOVE KMAIL! auto uses the maximum securities :k
18:26.47thiago_homegionnico: then don't file the bug report. Either fix, or wait for the fix.
18:26.53GuyFromHellthiago_home, oh it's not just my compy's xorg settings, it's more widespread?
18:26.55gionnico... why?
18:27.02gionnicoi had just subscribed in bugs.kde.org
18:27.17gionnicoisn't there a svn version bug?
18:28.04thiago_homeGuyFromHell: yes
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18:28.17GuyFromHellDarn, guess i'm using wmii for a bit longer...
18:28.21treachhttp://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA
18:28.28gionnicolet's see if i compile konqueror
18:28.35gionnicoso that I can easily file bugs >:-]
18:29.01gionnicoI think they break konqueror so that they don't get annoyed by bugs submissions ghgh
18:30.10GuyFromHelltreach, thanks i'll give that a shot before i abandon kde4 for a bit more
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18:30.20treachnp
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18:33.11gionnicoROFL! The bug I discovered .. WAS BECAUSE I USED DEBUG IN CONFIGURE! ROFL
18:33.21gionnicoit wasn't the bug I knew
18:33.31gionnicoOMG LMAO
18:33.38GuyFromHelltreach, Shiny, that nvidia-settings command did the trick.
18:33.54gionnicobut ffmpeg which I had been advised is the problem i've found it
18:33.56gionnico/var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/plugins/decoder/ffmpeg/k3bffmpegwrapper.cpp:20:28: error: ffmpeg/avcodec.h: No such file or directory
18:33.56treachgood. I guess I now dare try it as well. ;)
18:33.59gionnico/var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/plugins/decoder/ffmpeg/k3bffmpegwrapper.cpp:21:29: error: ffmpeg/avformat.h: No such file or directory
18:34.09GuyFromHelltreach, >_> i was the guinea pig eh? :P
18:34.39treachwell, you should read all the information before trying.
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18:37.41WorldBFreeis there a way to make control c work in the terminal?
18:37.58WorldBFreelike i know that kills a process
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18:38.07WorldBFreebut i like being able to quickly copy and paste
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18:38.19gionnicoselect with the mouse
18:38.23gionnicoand then middle button
18:38.26gionniconot quick enough?
18:38.31GuyFromHelltreach, but that way is boring compared to the gung ho "lets try it out"
18:39.23treach:>
18:39.27WorldBFreewell say im alt tabbing and dont wish to touch the mouse
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18:39.42WorldBFreecertainly excel users can appreciate not having to use a mouse to slow down
18:40.11GuyFromHellWorldBFree, if your using konsole you can just make a shortcut for copy, i think the default is ctrl+shift+c
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18:42.39gkiagiaWorldBFree: in kde4 it's ctrl+shift+c
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18:43.33WorldBFreeis there a way to switch control c and control shift c?
18:43.42WorldBFreelike ctrl shift c to kill a process?
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18:44.51gionnico/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/konqueror-9999/work/konqueror/apps/konqueror/sidebar/trees/konq_sidebartreetoplevelitem.cpp:114: undefined reference to `KParts::OpenUrlArguments::~OpenUrlArguments()'
18:44.55gionnico/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/konqueror-9999/work/konqueror/apps/konqueror/sidebar/trees/konq_sidebartreetoplevelitem.cpp:114: undefined reference to `KParts::BrowserArguments::~BrowserArguments()'
18:44.59gionnicocollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
18:45.03gionnicomake[2]: *** [lib/konq_sidebartree_dirtree.so] Error 1
18:45.07gionnicomake[1]: *** [apps/konqueror/sidebar/trees/dirtree_module/CMakeFiles/konq_sidebartree_dirtree.dir/all] Error 2
18:45.11gionnicomake[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
18:45.15gionnicoLinking CXX shared module ../../../../lib/konqsidebar_tree.so
18:45.17gionnicokonqueror
18:45.20gionnicois the error in CmakeFiles?
18:45.26WorldBFreewouldnt pastebin have been better for that?
18:45.43gionnicohmm it was border-line
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18:48.56WorldBFreei found a pratical solution i wish i thought of before.  just use the win key
18:49.04WorldBFreewin+c
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18:50.43gkiagiagionnico: that must be the issue with kparts that everyone is talking about
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18:54.19krikoWhen is KDE 4.1.1 coming out?
18:54.40Half-LeftBeen tagged today
18:54.51jazkaSeptember 3rd
18:54.53krikothat means....
18:54.56krikothanks!
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18:58.23gionnicogkiagia : if everyone is talking about it it's ok
18:58.27gionnicoit'll be fixed soon
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19:07.53Gettysomeone could help me how to install some theme of kde-look? i tried nearly anything but i just dont get kth files for install of theme
19:08.03URBrainwashedhow come you can cascade from the desktop but no one else?
19:08.11URBrainwashedand it only applies to kde windows?
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19:08.28Orfeousany nice themes that you are using? :)
19:08.32URBrainwashedwhy would you put cascade on the desk then you have to move all the windows out of the way you want to clean up
19:08.34Orfeousscreenshots?
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19:19.12klerfaytwhat's up with gtk-qt need to relog into kde4? will it be changed at some point?
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19:20.45thiago_homewe don't handle gtk-qt
19:20.54thiago_homeso you're asking the wrong channel
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19:22.48Gettyi get crazy bringing on any kde theme...
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19:23.51cgranadeQuick KDE 4.0 question (I know 4.1 is out-- haven't upgraded yet). When using KDE in a multi-screen environment, how do I get the panel onto the secondary screen?
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19:24.24cgranadeUsed to be an option under Panel settings for which screen I wanted a panel to be on, but I don't see it under Plasma.
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19:26.41xjohnthomasxhiiiiiiiii, is anyone there an expert in kde and kubuntu who can help me get my dual head setup to work? i've tried all of the man pages and wiki pages and bulletin board systems.. and there is no straight, single answer to my issues... i keep running into problems that no one knows answers to............ and i need help from the beginning of it. i've plugged the monitor in to both power and to the second graphic output of the cpu..
19:26.41xjohnthomasx[15:17] <xjohnthomasx> and that is it now.... pleasseeeeeeeee!!!!!!
19:27.58cgranadexjohnthomasx: Not really a KDE issue. You'll want to find someone who is good with Xorg.
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19:41.43|gunni|xjohnthomasx:  graphic card vendor?
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19:45.37xjohnthomasx|gunni|: nvidia
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19:46.24|gunni|Easiest way than should be dualview. i will paste you my xorg.conf that works, maybe you will be able to adapt it
19:46.38|gunni|Just one moment
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19:48.05|gunni|xjohnthomasx: http://pastebin.com/m54e71450
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20:03.05delrothwell
20:03.07delrothhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/83553/
20:03.15delrothI would like to ask you wtf happened ?
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20:03.38delrothKDE was fork bombing my system
20:03.43delrothI could not launch anything more
20:04.14Half-LeftAnything for configuring wirelss in KDE4.x?
20:04.21Half-Leftwireless*
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20:08.21pgibHalf-Left: you can always use iwconfig
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20:09.29ESphynxHey guys, how do I disable this annoyying kde-cache thing ? I type a url in Run command, and firefox gets that junk
20:09.57gionnicoLinking CXX shared library ../../../lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so
20:10.04gionnicohere my konqueror build ends
20:10.35gionnicoMy konqueror fail build log: http://rafb.net/p/J0TrnN65.html
20:10.54gionnicocollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
20:11.05gionnicoisnt' this strange? ld error .....
20:11.14gionnicoi use gcc-4.3.1
20:11.18gionnico(konqueror trunk)
20:12.29BarafuTell me, is there a standart way to solve this. I am sitting in KDE, and at this moment some daemon needs to tell me something. How can I do this - i don't see terminal at the moment, so echo don't work
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20:13.51gkiagiadaemons usually log things in /var/log/daemon.log
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20:15.53BarafuYes, that.s right. But what if info is urgent and I need it as fast as possible? I don't check logs every minute.
20:16.27gkiagiause KSystemLog maybe
20:16.47gkiagiaok, if you are talking about wall messages, that seems to be broken in kde
20:16.48shadokBarafu: tailf /var/log/deamon.log in a conky instance on the desktop or you can even use xosd to generate an osd message
20:17.30Barafuxosd& Never heard, shall read a bit....
20:20.03SimAtWorkwhat's the name of the 'widget' app for kde 3.x?
20:20.12SimAtWorki know it has a k in it ;)
20:20.27BarafuXosd is a library. I can use python as well.
20:20.30Half-Leftpgib: Ahh thanks
20:20.33BarafusuperKaramba
20:21.41SimAtWorkthnx
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20:22.25gkiagiaSimAtWork: everything has a k in it :P
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20:24.20Guest38411?
20:24.30SimAtWorkuhm
20:24.33SimAtWorksuperkaramba is weird
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20:24.38SimAtWorki added the lcars monitor
20:24.45SimAtWorkand now it just keeps minimizing
20:24.46SimAtWorkor something
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20:35.27Half-LeftNow thats strange, just updated 4.1 to 4.1.1 branch and it fixes graphics corruption on the panel settings, I though that was a nvidia beta IPP=2 issue
20:35.38Half-Leftthought*
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21:24.52aidyhi
21:25.09aidyhow do i sync up all applications like kontact and the adressbook
21:25.12aidyand kmail
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21:32.39scifiHi guys, im having trouble with kdewallet either not saving or not accepting my password, can anyone advise me on this????
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21:34.57unr3a1I am looking for the location of the color scheme files within kde 3.5 in slackware.  does anyone know where these are?
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21:50.20ShirakawasunaI accidentally removed the trash:/ icon on dolphin, is there a way to re-add it to 'places'?
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21:59.03Googiehi all... I have a quick question. I have configured Klipper to synchronize the contents of the clipboard with the mouse selection. This works, but only when Klipper is running, so I have to restart klipper every time I log in. Is there some way to make this synchronization permanent across log-ins?
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21:59.55GoogieI use Konsole for most my work
22:01.22gkiagiaShirakawasuna: add something else to the places and then change it's location to "trash:/"
22:02.41gkiagiaGoogie: klipper should autostart on each kde login
22:04.02Googiegkiagia: then I think on my system it doesn't... how can I check?
22:04.45gkiagiawell, maybe you don't use sessions?
22:05.28gkiagiayou can put it in autostart if it doesn't start automatically
22:05.36aanderseanyone running kdevelop4 beta here?
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22:09.41Googiegkiagia: thanks.. I think I'll do that (just as soon as I learn how to ;))
22:09.55gkiagiaGoogie: kde3 or kde4 ?
22:10.06Shirakawasunagkiagia: ah, thanks!
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22:11.56Googiegkiagia: actually like you mentioned, I'm not really using a KDE session (just Konsole)
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22:12.21gkiagiaah, that's why it doesn't autostart
22:13.25Googiegkiagia: I just made some changes to my current session. Hopefully it should start from next time around, thanks for your help!
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22:16.30delrothhey
22:16.37delrothkdeinit4 is fork bombing my system
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22:16.59delrothI was not able to create any more processes because of kdeinit4
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22:19.22gkiagiadelroth: do you also get many konqueror processes?
22:19.27delrothno
22:19.33delrothonly kdeinit4
22:19.56delrothhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/83553/ btw
22:22.03gkiagiaI also have many kio_http processes running
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22:22.20gkiagiaabout 10
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22:23.19gkiagiaso that could be a bug somwhere, but I don't know
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22:28.04PreytellAnyone here use Glipper?
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22:28.44gkiagiaPreytell: that's for gnome
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22:28.52Preytellyeah.
22:28.56gkiagiaso, I don't think anyone in here uses it :)
22:28.56PreytellI use klipper.
22:29.08Preytellbut I just wondered if anyone has tried it.
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22:59.20wng-Is there a qt-based mail client that works with Exchange Servers reasonably well? Or am I stuck with Evolution?
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23:09.44alsurenis anyone here running konqueror from kde3.5 and can verify that this page makes konq crash: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8017
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23:13.32shadokalsuren: runs fine on konqui 3.5.9 with flash
23:14.21alsurenmeh. must be something subtle
23:14.34alsuren*opens it in firefox instead*
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