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00:10.31 | lilltiger | rizvan: Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport), do you have kdesupport installed? |
00:10.38 | rizvan | yes, |
00:11.04 | rizvan | few days ago, it was compiling fine.. |
00:11.08 | rizvan | kdesupport installs fine |
00:11.23 | rizvan | http://rafb.net/p/EDp8N982.html |
00:11.25 | lilltiger | try using: locate automoc4 |
00:11.34 | rizvan | plz see the paste http://rafb.net/p/EDp8N982.html |
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00:13.03 | lilltiger | the paste says that it cant find automoc4 wich is a part of kdesupport.. as i said.. so either your install of kdesupport dident not install corectly or kdesuppoert dosent include that any longer |
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00:13.28 | blauzahl | rizvan: env | grep PATH <---pastebin that? |
00:13.49 | blauzahl | actually, first |
00:13.53 | blauzahl | which automoc4 |
00:14.07 | lilltiger | blauzahl: the paths is included in the paste actually :) |
00:15.05 | blauzahl | i don't actually see the local kde compiled bin directory in that path |
00:15.16 | lilltiger | but /usr/lib dosent seem to be in his patch |
00:15.23 | rizvan | blauzahl http://rafb.net/p/Z5VnE919.html |
00:15.39 | blauzahl | automoc4 directs to my ~/kde/bin/automoc4 |
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00:16.20 | lilltiger | looks like he installed kdesupport into the wrong path |
00:16.21 | blauzahl | what qt are you using? qt-copy or system? |
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00:16.28 | rizvan | system |
00:16.38 | rizvan | qt is in /usr/lib |
00:16.41 | blauzahl | that should make your paths easier i think :) |
00:17.12 | blauzahl | i vote find where your automoc4 is, and put a path to that in front of everything else |
00:17.21 | rizvan | i this here is the problem LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kde/lib:/usr/lib/usr/local/lib:/lib |
00:17.30 | rizvan | :/usr/lib/usr/local/lib |
00:17.38 | blauzahl | i don't see any paths to your local kde4 build |
00:17.44 | blauzahl | wait, you are building a kde4? |
00:17.50 | rizvan | colon (:) is missing |
00:17.58 | rizvan | yes kdesvn 4.2 |
00:19.49 | rizvan | i think the /usr/lib was not delimited, so, kdesvn got missing /usr/lib |
00:19.57 | blauzahl | i would add things like ~/kde/include to the *front* of your CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH just to be safe |
00:20.22 | blauzahl | and once you get all your paths set up right, save them to a file ;) |
00:21.17 | rizvan | here's my script to build kdesvn |
00:21.20 | rizvan | http://rafb.net/p/JDuSie72.html |
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00:22.42 | blauzahl | there's kdesvn-build which suppsoedly will keep going even if a module fails. i haven't messed with it yet |
00:23.23 | blauzahl | kdesupport requires a JAVA_HOME to get set too, iirc. i have no clue what depends on it, but... |
00:24.04 | rizvan | just a few days (3-4) days ago, ktorrent was compiling fine |
00:25.30 | blauzahl | revert to then? |
00:26.22 | rizvan | after fixing the (:), i'm reinstalling kde4svn |
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00:30.01 | rizvan | blauzahl, how do i revert? |
00:35.08 | blauzahl | erm, no clue |
00:35.16 | blauzahl | svn revert <revision number> ? |
00:35.49 | blauzahl | actually, you should do an "svn info" in the src directory |
00:35.54 | blauzahl | and see when it was last changed |
00:36.03 | blauzahl | that might give you a clue as to if soething happened |
00:36.22 | blauzahl | and then sorry, i don't know the revert syntax offhand |
00:36.32 | rizvan | ok, thanks a lot :) |
00:36.34 | blauzahl | there are various forms though |
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00:47.25 | [pLp]Stacey | guys |
00:47.26 | [pLp]Stacey | free 360 http://www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=5343780 |
00:48.08 | gr1m-lap | begone spammer |
00:49.46 | MinceR | turns 360 degrees and moonwalks away |
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00:51.12 | [pLp]Stacey | dumbass u wouldnt be walking away |
00:51.16 | [pLp]Stacey | free 360 http://www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=5343780 |
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00:57.11 | MinceR | oh yes i would :> |
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01:16.03 | Digital_Pioneer | Is there a usable KDevelop for KDE4 yet? |
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01:16.51 | g2g591 | Digital_Pioneer: im pretty sure, let me check |
01:17.48 | g2g591 | Digital_Pioneer: well, not unles you want to try an alpha |
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01:18.45 | Digital_Pioneer | Does it do the basics? |
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01:58.24 | lilltiger | Digital_Pioneer: use kdevelop3 |
01:58.46 | lilltiger | Digital_Pioneer: alpha is never good :) |
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02:37.37 | rizvan | blauzahl |
02:37.49 | Digital_Pioneer | lilltiger: True, true. :P |
02:38.08 | Digital_Pioneer | lilltiger: But somtimes it's decent. :) |
02:38.39 | Jucato | Digital_Pioneer: you can try asking (and waiting for a reply) in #kdevelop about those details |
02:38.43 | rizvan | kdeartwork, ktorrent - not compiling when automoc4 is not installed in /usr, |
02:39.35 | rizvan | here ktorrent was complaining of missing automoc4, had to do ln -sf /opt/kde/bin/automoc4 /usr/bin; even when /opt/kde/bin was in path |
02:40.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Jucato: Yup, have done and am doing. :) |
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02:43.26 | rizvan | i guess kdesupport is not relocatable or kdeartwork, ktorrent are expecting kdesupport (automoc4, etc) at /usr |
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02:48.17 | newsense | is there a way to have seperate appearance settings for 2 different panels ? |
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02:49.47 | drantin | ick, why? |
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03:01.12 | newsense | 2 different panel appearances is perfectly sane |
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03:01.48 | fujisan | anyone here? |
03:01.54 | drantin | nope |
03:02.12 | drantin | that number of current users means nothing |
03:02.21 | fujisan | :( |
03:02.27 | fujisan | i need help |
03:02.34 | fujisan | where to get updates for kde4 |
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03:03.04 | drantin | your distro |
03:03.08 | fujisan | no |
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03:03.12 | fujisan | here |
03:03.13 | fujisan | tell |
03:03.17 | fujisan | me kde updates |
03:03.26 | drantin | o_O |
03:03.30 | newsense | lmao |
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03:03.37 | rpag | fujisan: your distro's package manager should handle KDE4 updates |
03:03.42 | newsense | ok back to the 2 panel thing |
03:03.46 | newsense | ignore him |
03:03.55 | fujisan | rpag |
03:04.06 | fujisan | what is the packagemanager in kde |
03:04.12 | newsense | lmao |
03:04.14 | newsense | none |
03:04.22 | fujisan | none? |
03:04.24 | newsense | whats your distro use ? |
03:04.29 | fujisan | i am running distro kde4.1 |
03:04.29 | Jucato | fujisan: please ask in your distribution |
03:04.34 | newsense | apt rpm ? |
03:04.34 | apt | Red Hat's package management system. URL: http://www.rpm.org/ |
03:04.36 | Jucato | KDE does not make binary packages |
03:04.44 | Jucato | (or distro packages) |
03:05.02 | rpag | He's either really stupid or trolling |
03:05.12 | newsense | trolling id guess |
03:05.12 | drantin | or on ubuntu |
03:05.15 | fujisan | jucato how come you arent there? |
03:05.21 | newsense | or all of the above |
03:05.35 | Jucato | fujisan: where? |
03:05.51 | fujisan | newsense no need to act so american, i mean imperialistic, i mean abrasively |
03:06.02 | fujisan | #kubuntu Jucato |
03:06.07 | drantin | o_O |
03:06.09 | newsense | seriously though any way to have different for 2 different panels, using 3.5.9 |
03:06.23 | newsense | different settings that is sorry |
03:06.29 | drantin | did you ever say anything about 3.5.9 before? |
03:06.50 | newsense | no but no one asked |
03:06.52 | Jucato | fujisan: because I choose not to be there? should I always be there? |
03:07.00 | newsense | this a kde4 only channel ? |
03:07.03 | drantin | but the process would be completely different if it's possible... |
03:07.13 | fujisan | Jucato: |
03:07.15 | newsense | i know |
03:07.21 | newsense | thats why i mentioned it |
03:07.24 | fujisan | you are the only one that can help me |
03:07.36 | Jucato | newsense: nope. not possible in KDE 3. dunno if it's possible in KDE 4 |
03:07.37 | newsense | if anyone was gonna answer me they would have asked that |
03:07.57 | newsense | Jucato: thanks :-) |
03:08.20 | lilltiger | Digital_Pioneer: but kdevelop3 works in kde4 if you have kdelibs :) |
03:08.26 | fujisan | Jucato: |
03:08.32 | newsense | was it a feature in previous releases, i could have sworn it was a few releases back |
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03:08.55 | fujisan | Jucato: you used to the ubiquity in the K-environment related channels |
03:09.33 | fujisan | O:-) |
03:09.37 | Jucato | fujisan: no |
03:09.39 | fujisan | >:o Jucato |
03:09.39 | lilltiger | newsense: it could be possible to run 2 different panels as differet users and in that way get different apperance on them |
03:09.43 | drantin | I saw that! hiding those horns with that halo |
03:09.58 | newsense | lilltiger: interesting |
03:10.05 | fujisan | Jucato: i feel like we are close friends |
03:10.10 | drantin | o_O |
03:10.11 | newsense | lilltiger: didnt think of that |
03:10.11 | fujisan | :-D |
03:10.16 | drantin | O_o |
03:10.23 | Jucato | newsense: it's probably possible in KDE 4 to use a different background for each panel. but I know there's no GUI way to do that |
03:10.41 | Jucato | but like I said, KDE 3... nope |
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03:11.08 | lilltiger | newsense: it's an "ugly" solution but should work |
03:11.10 | newsense | thanks Jucato lilltiger, good info, seen nothing in the manulas so i thought id ask here |
03:11.32 | fujisan | bu bye newsense |
03:11.49 | fujisan | Jucato: |
03:11.52 | newsense | no idling here ? |
03:12.01 | drantin | or fujisan is leaving? |
03:12.18 | fujisan | o_O |
03:12.34 | lilltiger | newsense: you are welcome to idel as much as you want :) |
03:12.39 | drantin | arrests newsense for loitering |
03:13.05 | fujisan | i stay here with my good friend Jucato |
03:13.10 | Jucato | fujisan: can you please not highlight me without saying anything? I'm busy atm |
03:13.22 | fujisan | ok friend |
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03:13.43 | Darkrift2 | anyone know how to make folder view full screen and transparent so it looks like a standard desktop? |
03:14.53 | Darkrift2 | kde4 btw, didnt know the channel was on redirect |
03:15.31 | newsense | Darkrift2: if youre referring to konquerer i dont think it supports transparency |
03:15.51 | Darkrift2 | im talking about the "desktop" folder view that replaces desktop icons on kde4 |
03:16.23 | newsense | ah ok sorry i know nothing about kde4 |
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03:17.21 | marcusU | I'm writing a web page in Konqueror, and the font sizes in the printout are too small. How can I make them bigger? (View->Enlarge font only affects the displayed size, not the printed size.) |
03:18.10 | Jucato | Darkrift2: in KDE 4.2 (January 2009) it will be possible to use the folder view as the standard desktop. for now, all you can do is resize it to fill up the whole desktop and use a transparent Plasma theme |
03:18.23 | Darkrift2 | ok |
03:20.31 | Darkrift2 | anyone know what could cause my upgrade to 8.10 + kde 4.1 to make my network suddenly not show up in my wifi list? |
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03:20.40 | Darkrift2 | kubuntu 8.10* |
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03:21.34 | newsense | iwlist show it ? |
03:22.16 | Darkrift2 | yes |
03:22.17 | Darkrift2 | it shows lots |
03:22.25 | Darkrift2 | the built in tool (cant find its name) shows 1 :S |
03:22.44 | newsense | oh ok well at least wireless works :-) |
03:22.52 | Darkrift2 | oddly the one it does show doesnt show in iwlist :S |
03:23.21 | Darkrift2 | anyone know a command line method to make it connect to a network by ssid? |
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03:24.40 | newsense | iwconfig |
03:25.01 | _CitizenKane_ | iwconfig interface essid "Netowork Name" |
03:25.10 | Darkrift2 | ty |
03:25.21 | _CitizenKane_ | where interface is the interface name such as wlan0, etc. |
03:26.17 | newsense | nice to see a *buntu user using a command line tool :-) |
03:26.34 | Darkrift2 | id rather it, but never had to for wifi |
03:26.37 | Darkrift2 | it was always taken care of |
03:26.50 | Darkrift2 | once i get it setup, i use X for irc and firefox |
03:26.57 | Darkrift2 | console for all the rest |
03:27.10 | newsense | im like that with video, if it didnt just work id be working to figure it out |
03:27.35 | Darkrift2 | iwconfig gave no output, but didnt seem to connect |
03:27.50 | Darkrift2 | ping still giving unknown host :S |
03:27.59 | _CitizenKane_ | Darkrift2: you usually have to also set the channel the network is on |
03:28.08 | Darkrift2 | on my debian laptop i had a script that did all this lol |
03:28.12 | Darkrift2 | ahh, i c |
03:28.24 | _CitizenKane_ | iwconfig interface channel X |
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03:28.33 | Darkrift2 | ok, did both |
03:28.40 | newsense | http://linux.die.net/man/8/iwconfig |
03:28.51 | _CitizenKane_ | and then you get an IP adderss with dhclient |
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03:28.58 | Darkrift2 | iwconfig gave me a list showing right channel and info |
03:29.06 | Darkrift2 | looks like its connected, but still no internet |
03:29.10 | newsense | ifconfig |
03:29.17 | Darkrift2 | thx for link |
03:29.17 | _CitizenKane_ | dhclient interface |
03:29.20 | newsense | using dhcp ? |
03:29.47 | Darkrift2 | yeah |
03:29.51 | Darkrift2 | its working |
03:29.57 | Darkrift2 | i mean |
03:30.01 | Darkrift2 | its working on connecting :S |
03:30.13 | newsense | Darkrift2: wep or wpa1/2 ? |
03:30.20 | Darkrift2 | open network |
03:31.42 | marcusU | Then again, at least Konqueror will print this web page. All Firefox will do is crash. |
03:33.05 | newsense | how do you take a screenshot in kde, keycombo ? |
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03:33.59 | marcusU | Prt Scr |
03:34.12 | marcusU | Same key as Sys Rq |
03:34.37 | Darkrift2 | wtf |
03:34.48 | newsense | http://guide.opendns.com/?url=ksnapshot.newsense.net gets loaded in konquerer when i hit prnt scrn |
03:34.49 | Darkrift2 | now the kde4.1 network thing shows my network |
03:34.57 | Darkrift2 | and i selected it, told it to auto connect and saved it |
03:35.05 | Darkrift2 | shows in the context menu, but wont connect |
03:38.46 | Darkrift2 | anyone know how to make the kde4.1 network app actually connect? it shows state as "disconnected" but i cant figure out how to change that |
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03:41.53 | grablin | Does anybody know how to get the name of the file currunly shown in the "Picture Frame" widget in the slideshow mode? |
03:42.03 | newsense | try iwconfig interface essid any |
03:42.09 | newsense | see if it connects |
03:43.03 | Darkrift2 | nothing |
03:43.28 | newsense | iwconfig shows your interface as well as ifconfig ? |
03:43.44 | Darkrift2 | yes |
03:43.47 | Darkrift2 | both show it |
03:43.54 | newsense | reset your ap or change the channel |
03:44.47 | Darkrift2 | theres nothing wrong with the ap |
03:44.51 | Darkrift2 | this computer is connected to it :S |
03:44.53 | newsense | connexct than |
03:45.00 | Darkrift2 | and that laptop was connected to it before the upgrade |
03:45.08 | newsense | ok change the channel |
03:45.24 | newsense | i heard ya the first first time |
03:45.40 | newsense | im just trying to offer ya some help |
03:45.54 | newsense | or could ask in #kubuntu |
03:46.04 | newsense | might be a bug on their part |
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03:47.26 | DarkriftX | i tried in there |
03:47.31 | DarkriftX | they dont offer kde4 support |
03:47.35 | DarkriftX | and nobody is in the channel that does |
03:47.58 | DarkriftX | changed channel, still nothing |
03:48.00 | newsense | did ya change the channel? |
03:48.25 | DarkriftX | its odd, the context menu shows the connection and the strenght, but doesnt connect |
03:48.38 | DarkriftX | i see the % bar showing about 78% signal str |
03:49.12 | DarkriftX | i know this sounds funny, but ill try a reboot |
03:49.25 | DarkriftX | i did do lots of installs on it today |
03:49.26 | newsense | Darkrift2: i did support for 2 different popular wifi manufacturers and ive seen flakyness of wifi, changing channel has solved many problems |
03:49.50 | DarkriftX | i dont htink its a connection issue |
03:49.54 | newsense | Darkrift2: i know it sounds stupid as i thought at first |
03:49.55 | DarkriftX | i think its the software not trying to connect |
03:50.04 | DarkriftX | and i changed the channel, didnt work |
03:50.07 | newsense | ok than d without it |
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04:04.25 | grablin | How often I can post the same question here to be polite? |
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04:08.33 | zerkms | grablin: :-)))) |
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04:10.43 | drantin | depends on traffic, if there haven't been too many joins/parts then keep waiting... |
04:10.52 | OhMyWolfness | Good Morning. ;) |
04:10.53 | grablin | zerkms: :) My prob bothers me some days... Yesterday I have posted it on the KDE forum (http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/20850/picture-frame-widget-info.html) |
04:11.11 | drantin | if the question has shot off the top of the screen and then some, it could be safe to ask again... |
04:11.58 | Darkrift2 | on kde4.1 the built in network manager is kwifimanager and knetworkmanager right? |
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04:14.40 | lilltiger | grablin: you cant, if you have. But you can sugest that feture to the dev of that plasmoid, there is an wishlish in the bug-database |
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04:21.09 | grablin | lilltiger: Can you give me the link to that wishlist ? |
04:21.32 | lilltiger | bugs.kde.org |
04:21.51 | grablin | lilltiger: Thank you. |
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04:49.45 | tony_ | is it safe to upgrade to kde 4.1 from 4.0? |
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04:54.51 | _CitizenKane_ | tony_: as far as I know it is |
04:55.22 | drantin | depends on the distro, most should be fine, I don't recommend it on gentoo though... |
04:55.30 | tony_ | _CitizenKane_: i mean, without breaking any packages. i want mythtv left untouched because it's so hard for me to get a successful install |
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04:55.53 | drantin | why would kde mess with mythtv? |
04:56.06 | _CitizenKane_ | tony_: what drantin said, just do it with caution |
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04:56.35 | Lord^Anubis | what distro are you running? |
04:56.37 | tony_ | drantin: idk, i'm a linux noob so wanna make sure |
04:56.46 | tony_ | Lord^Anubis: kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4.0 |
04:56.51 | Lord^Anubis | oh |
04:56.59 | Lord^Anubis | well, you can install kde 4 alongside kde 3 |
04:57.04 | Lord^Anubis | on ubuntu |
04:57.07 | drantin | apt-get/synaptic/whatever shouldn't have any problems upgrading 4.0 to 4.1 |
04:57.27 | Lord^Anubis | well, you can choose to log into both kde 3 and 4 |
04:57.32 | tony_ | ok, i'll go ahead and upgrade. think i should upgrade to 4.1 before myth install? |
04:57.42 | Lord^Anubis | you don't have to get rid of your kde3 to use it in ubuntu |
04:58.05 | drantin | he's upgrading from 4.0 to 4.1 |
04:58.12 | Lord^Anubis | oh |
04:58.16 | Lord^Anubis | nvm |
04:58.17 | Lord^Anubis | sorry |
04:58.18 | drantin | not anything with 3.5 afaics... |
04:58.42 | Lord^Anubis | yeah, kde 4.1 seems to work a lot better than 4.0... |
04:59.11 | tony_ | Lord^Anubis: yes, very. i was really pleased with it |
04:59.30 | OhMyWolfness | Does 4.0 keep any settings from 3.5? |
05:01.35 | drantin | no |
05:02.23 | OhMyWolfness | Okay thanks. ;) |
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05:10.22 | Lord^Anubis | think i'll switch from fedora back to ubuntu once kde 4.2 comes out |
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05:33.53 | supert0nes | its not a bad idea to wait just because ubuntu wont have kde 4 as its default until intrepid in november |
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05:37.57 | tony_ | supert0nes: have you tried 4.1? it's stable for me |
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05:40.14 | EnginA | guys, KDE support multiple-headed displays ? |
05:40.29 | EnginA | kwin places windows just at the center of the virtual screen size... not at the center of the primary display |
05:40.48 | EnginA | kicker tries ot occupy all virtual screen width... not just the primary one. |
05:41.06 | supert0nes | i have been using 4.1 since the beta days in may |
05:41.38 | supert0nes | but the default config folder used changes from .kde4 to .kde in intrepid |
05:41.41 | Jejem | tony_: it's not stable at all. |
05:41.59 | supert0nes | 4.1 is completely stable i love it |
05:42.42 | EnginA | 3.5.9 is not stable yet, how come 4.1 is :D |
05:42.42 | Jejem | supert0nes: it's not stable at all. |
05:42.48 | Lord^Anubis | yeah, 4.1 is perfectly stable for me, but there are a few things that aren't implemented yet... |
05:42.59 | Zarin | EnginA, you need to have Xinerama enabled |
05:43.07 | EnginA | Zarin: any pointers ? |
05:43.07 | Jejem | Lord^Anubis: do a zoom in then a zoom out in the plasma stuff ;) |
05:43.15 | Lord^Anubis | yeah... |
05:43.28 | supert0nes | i'm not saying 4.1.1 isnt necessary |
05:43.33 | Lord^Anubis | well, this is a laptop with no graphics card, so i have desktop effects disabled right now |
05:43.34 | supert0nes | but my kde doesnt crash ever |
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05:43.44 | Jejem | Lord^Anubis: try it with desktop effects ;) |
05:43.48 | Lord^Anubis | lol |
05:43.50 | Jejem | and you'll not call that "perfectly stable" |
05:43.55 | Lord^Anubis | yeah |
05:44.04 | supert0nes | kde is what you make it i use compiz |
05:44.04 | Lord^Anubis | perhaps i shouldn't say *perfectly* stable |
05:44.05 | Jejem | i'd say perfectly dirty, for now |
05:44.30 | supert0nes | quit hatin its in great shape, if you found a bug then report it |
05:44.52 | Jejem | there are enough "bug reports" for now ;) |
05:45.31 | supert0nes | which is a good thing |
05:45.41 | Jejem | or not |
05:46.06 | Jejem | depends on a "users / devel time / quantity of bugs" ratio |
05:46.11 | EnginA | Zarin: still couldn't find where to enable it |
05:46.25 | supert0nes | and most projects are at a positive closed to openned ratio right now |
05:46.27 | Zarin | EnginA, what graphics card do you have? |
05:46.30 | EnginA | nvidia |
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05:47.12 | Jejem | supert0nes: if you put KDE2/3 closed bugs in the ratio, yeah, sure |
05:47.35 | Zarin | EnginA, you should be able to use a nVidia program to enable TwinView (Which is nVidia's Xinerama name) |
05:47.36 | Jejem | for now, KDE4 is like Vista |
05:47.44 | Jejem | beautiful, and.... hem beautiful |
05:47.58 | EnginA | Zarin: I have done that. I have two monitors working. It's just KDE not playing along well. |
05:48.03 | supert0nes | you see no function in kde4? |
05:48.21 | sjraarke | Jejem: and perfectly stable here, including all effects |
05:48.31 | Jejem | sjraarke: zoom in/zoom out in plasma? ;) |
05:48.33 | EnginA | Zarin: i.e. when a new window appears it is palced at the center of the virtual (giant) screen. It should be at the center of the primary screen. |
05:48.43 | Zarin | EnginA, there are different TwinView modes, I don't know the name of the one you are looking for but it's not the one you are currently using :) |
05:48.44 | sjraarke | Jejem: works. like a charm |
05:48.50 | Jejem | sjraarke: you're a lucky one. |
05:48.56 | EnginA | hehe |
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05:49.31 | EnginA | Zarin: so kwin takes xinerama extension into consideration and I don't hve to do anything to KDE configuration. Just need to get twinview use xinerama. |
05:50.23 | Zarin | EnginA, correct |
05:50.37 | supert0nes | ya zoom in kwin works here too |
05:50.40 | EnginA | nvidia-settings doesn't appear to have any fancy options... just twinview.. |
05:50.41 | EnginA | *sigh* |
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05:51.28 | supert0nes | one reason however i don't use kwin is because not until recently in 4.2 trunk had the high processor usage of kwin been fixed |
05:51.40 | supert0nes | hopefully that will make it into 4.1.1 |
05:52.05 | Zarin | Not into 4.1.1 |
05:52.13 | Zarin | Unless your distro decides to backport |
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05:53.11 | Jejem | =$ |
05:53.36 | oneforall | kde 3.5.9 how do I restart dcopserver? when I try to open konq I get the error |
05:53.40 | supert0nes | ahh thats alright i wouldnt give up compiz anyway |
05:53.51 | Jejem | oneforall: and what about hem.... "hi" ? |
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06:04.43 | sparr | how can i get kde['s mixer] to stop overriding my "alsactl store"d mixer settings? every time i reboot my output devices are muted once kde starts. |
06:05.07 | Jejem | sparr: and what about hem.... "hi" ? |
06:06.01 | sparr | Jejem: a) i said hi about 6 years ago when i first joined this channel. b) saying it since then has had no good, and some bad, affect on my ability to receive help |
06:06.16 | sparr | exaggerates |
06:06.55 | Jejem | you come and ask for help without even saying hi to people around, lol |
06:07.02 | Jejem | exaggerate somewhere else, so. |
06:07.39 | oneforall | of all the times I've been in here , you are the only one that said that |
06:07.40 | sparr | you want me to say hi, to people i dont know, every time i join? |
06:08.22 | Jejem | when you ask for help, yeah, why not ? |
06:08.25 | Jejem | that will kill you? |
06:08.41 | sparr | what about when ive just been idle for a week? i dont reboot often, the fact that i joined right before asking that was a coincidence |
06:08.50 | sparr | im in here 90% of the time |
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06:09.05 | Jejem | bad coincidence heh |
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06:10.09 | Jejem | oneforall: i'm not the only one, but i'm ok with telling that everyday |
06:10.17 | Jejem | not like some others who only tell it one time ;) |
06:11.30 | Jejem | i'm like... tired of some guys who are "*join* gimme that !" "what about sayin hi?" "fuck you" |
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06:14.10 | sparr | i'm like... tired of people who are "*join* follow my rules!" |
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06:16.26 | Jejem | ohhh being polite is sooo hard... |
06:16.27 | EnginA | *sigh* |
06:16.44 | Jejem | that's a very hard rule, sure... |
06:16.47 | Jejem | oh my god... |
06:16.49 | Jucato | I'm like... tired of this offtopic diversion. so enough |
06:16.50 | Jejem | you'll die from that... |
06:17.06 | EnginA | I've did what nvidia docs say... are you sure it can't be kwin who doesn't take xinerama into consideration ? |
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06:17.23 | Zarin | It does take it into consideration |
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06:17.33 | Jucato | Jejem: saying "hi" before asking a question is not a requirement. it's up to the person if he so wishes to do so. please stop "greeting" every question with "how about hem... hi" |
06:17.34 | Zarin | I'm running it right now :) |
06:17.35 | Firztspawn | anyone here using gentoo? |
06:17.49 | Jucato | Firztspawn: #gentoo-kde people most probably do |
06:17.56 | EnginA | there's nothing about this on google too.. something is wrong |
06:18.06 | Firztspawn | ok ty Jucato |
06:18.09 | Jejem | Jucato: be a bot if you want... |
06:18.37 | lilltiger | EnginA: there is alot on google about it, and alot of it on the nvnews forum for linux |
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06:20.15 | EnginA | lilltiger: do I have to crawl for information ? |
06:20.20 | EnginA | isn't this common stuff |
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06:28.28 | Che-Anarc | Anyone using surround sound?... I only seem to be able to get sound out of Front L+R. |
06:29.38 | drantin | does alsamixer have the option to let you use surround? |
06:29.45 | drantin | or rather, 4-6 speaker setups? |
06:31.45 | Che-Anarc | drantin well it has the differnt chan volumes for center, etc. |
06:32.26 | drantin | also, kmix... didn't realize what channel this was... |
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06:34.01 | Che-Anarc | drantin I get the channels in kmixer just no sound.... I'm using speaker-test and even via splayer no sound.... dont know if wires have to physically be connected in a certian way :-s |
06:34.54 | drantin | dunno, but I do have an option in kmix to use different "channel modes" off to the side |
06:35.11 | drantin | with options of 2ch,4ch,6ch,8ch ... |
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06:43.23 | lilltiger | EnginA: you could at least try to find it, and i said where to look for it |
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07:45.54 | Patroclo | Hi... I've a problem with KDE 4. Kded4 crash and in the log I see this message "Parsing failed (3)": "The namespace prefix in "semn:" was not declared." (line:9, column: -1). Do you know the solution to solve this problem? |
07:49.18 | gkiagia | Patroclo: do you have a backtrace? what distro are you using? |
07:49.36 | Patroclo | Ubuntu.. but I compile kde from trunck |
07:49.52 | Patroclo | This is my log... |
07:49.53 | Patroclo | 19 [main] INFO org.openrdf.query.parser.QueryParserRegistry - Registered service class org.openrdf.query.parser.serql.SeRQLParserFactory |
07:49.53 | Patroclo | 19 [main] INFO org.openrdf.query.parser.QueryParserRegistry - Registered service class org.openrdf.query.parser.sparql.SPARQLParserFactory |
07:49.53 | Patroclo | KWrited - Listening on Device /dev/pts/3 |
07:49.53 | Patroclo | (Soprano::PluginManager) loaded plugin from "/opt/kde4/lib/soprano/libsoprano_raptorparser.so" |
07:49.55 | Patroclo | "/opt/kde4/bin/kded4(7315)" Error in thread 3054782240 : "Parsing failed (3)": "The namespace prefix in "semn:" was not declared." (line:9, column: -1) |
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07:51.27 | gkiagia | could be a soprano issue |
07:51.45 | gionnico | Hi! Should k3b and konqueror svn be ok now? |
07:51.51 | gkiagia | does it crash silently or does it show a window that says kded4 has crashed? |
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07:52.27 | Patroclo | It's show a window |
07:52.57 | Patroclo | gkiagia, so you suggest to re-download soprano and recompile all? |
07:53.15 | gkiagia | yes, update soprano |
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07:53.53 | gkiagia | btw, in the window that says kded4 has crashed, you could get a bakctrace by clicking the checkbox... that is more useful than the log |
07:54.54 | gionnico | may you look at this: http://rafb.net/p/gniTGS30.html it's the k3b compilation log |
07:55.00 | gionnico | if you recognize a known problem in it.. |
07:56.31 | drantin | gionnico: just tried konqueror after you asked, didn't build for me... |
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07:56.53 | gkiagia | gionnico: that's a wierd error... it says make: *** [all] Error 2 but it doesn't show what causes the error |
07:57.04 | gionnico | yes indeed... |
07:57.26 | gionnico | :/ maybe if I compile with debug it shows something more |
07:58.00 | Patroclo | gionnico, have you got problem compiling KDE 4 trunck? |
07:58.10 | gionnico | yes trunk |
07:58.19 | Patroclo | with kdebase? |
07:58.19 | gionnico | k3b at the beginning shows me this: |
07:58.21 | gionnico | <PROTECTED> |
07:58.37 | gionnico | Patroclo .. with everything |
07:59.18 | Patroclo | I don't understand.. I'm compiling kde 4 from trunk but Seems that I've not problem on compile |
08:00.17 | darius12 | does nepomuk work? |
08:00.32 | gionnico | i've compiled about 2 hundred packages |
08:00.38 | gionnico | (in gentoo they've splitted everything) |
08:00.48 | gionnico | now k3b stopped |
08:00.57 | gionnico | and I tried going on and also konqueror stopped.. |
08:01.05 | darius12 | I 'm trying to do simple stuff like add a tag to a file from dolphin and view all the files with that tag from folderview but nothing :( |
08:01.31 | Patroclo | I don't compile k3b |
08:01.47 | Patroclo | but konqueror seems to compile |
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08:02.09 | drantin | gionnico: genkdesvn, or kdesvn-portage ? |
08:02.33 | gionnico | kdesvn-portage |
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08:04.55 | gionnico | kcm just compiled fine |
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08:06.37 | gionnico | My gcc profile: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.1 ; CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe" same CXXFLAGS |
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08:09.32 | Patroclo | gkiagia, I have investigate bettere on my problem.. seems a libraptor problem. Where is raptor to try to recompilied it? |
08:09.35 | gionnico | plasma-workspace compiled just fine .. so my problem is konqueror and k3b |
08:09.56 | gionnico | patroclo: mine prob? |
08:10.01 | Patroclo | gionnico, can you have a dependence problem? |
08:10.09 | Patroclo | No gionnico.. I have another problem |
08:10.38 | gionnico | i've media-libs/raptor-1.4.18 |
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08:11.55 | gionnico | well if it was a dep problem .. it should have told me |
08:12.02 | gionnico | like missing header or wrong function |
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08:14.03 | gkiagia | Patroclo: I don't know :( |
08:14.33 | Patroclo | no problem gkiagia .. thank you |
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08:28.20 | luna1 | hi :-) anyone knows the state of actual trunk ? in those days with the introduction of new desktop containers all is broken (this question is 'coz i'm preparing a gentoo unstable system and i want to know if is a good time to compile trunk) |
08:28.30 | Che-Anarc | Any reasons why /etc/init.d/alsasound save does not have my settings / each time it is reset to HDMI output on graphics card and I have to do aslaconfig each time. This seems to be a kde issue where it reset this each time restart kde. |
08:29.05 | lemma | luna1: unless you need it for production use I'd just keep updating your svn until it works fine :) |
08:30.10 | luna1 | lemma: yep |
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08:30.19 | lemma | Che-Anarc: it seems more like a problem with your distribution |
08:30.23 | gkiagia | Che-Anarc: if kde changes it, then it's kmix that changes it. disable saving/loading state from kmix |
08:30.50 | lemma | Che-Anarc: do you have several alsa audio sources enabled? |
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08:31.15 | darius12 | now that nepomuk is driving strigi indexing, how do you search what is indexed? |
08:31.33 | darius12 | I have nepomuk-kde compiled fresh from playground |
08:32.15 | Che-Anarc | lemma I think so... anyway in root it shows it as the correct device... its only in user account that its on the wrong thing. |
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08:32.34 | Che-Anarc | lemma when I do alsaconf it shows up 2 devices. |
08:32.51 | lemma | Che-Anarc: but why do you have to rerun alsaconfig? isn't that supposed to be run only for loading the right alsa modules for the card? |
08:33.04 | lemma | Che-Anarc: does it show the 2 devices even before running alsaconfig? |
08:33.19 | Che-Anarc | lemma where? |
08:34.04 | lemma | Che-Anarc: if you login to kde and list the devices (eg "aplay -L"), do you see both of them right away or only after running alsaconf? |
08:34.10 | Che-Anarc | basically if I could get alsaconf to apply the same settings for all users that would be good... since alsamixer on root gives correct details where as on user its set to hdmi output of vga. |
08:35.11 | lemma | Che-Anarc: do you have different ~/.asoundrc files for root and the users? |
08:35.24 | gionnico | a |
08:35.27 | lemma | Che-Anarc: or is it only the kde settings that's not being saved? |
08:35.30 | gionnico | luna1: i'm compiling kde-svn right now |
08:35.39 | gionnico | k3b konqueror umbrella didn't work |
08:36.11 | gionnico | I setup a 2 bell script so that I know when it worked fine and when it worked wrong |
08:36.43 | Che-Anarc | lemma I dont have ~/.asoundrc |
08:37.04 | gionnico | luna1: and have compiled kde-svn a few days ago in another pc |
08:37.16 | luna1 | yes k3b is in porting |
08:37.27 | luna1 | not completed yet |
08:38.36 | lemma | Che-Anarc: sorry, I don't know what the problem might be. but I'm not sure if it's related to kde at all. did you also try by logging in with a different desktop environment / window manager? |
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08:39.33 | luna1 | gionnico: i've ask because i have try the trunk and in those days nothing work, especially with bars. this situasion occurs when new desktop containments are implemented |
08:39.59 | Che-Anarc | lemma its really strange if I su... then do alsaconf it sets everything fine and saves it that way... but if exit back into user account and do alsamixer it shows no changes. |
08:40.10 | luna1 | so i wanna know if this is "a good moment" to compile |
08:40.48 | lemma | Che-Anarc: I think to trace this methodically you should try to find out what that alsaconf really changes |
08:40.57 | gionnico | ah well .. the code isn't broken |
08:41.04 | gionnico | if the desktop works i still don't know |
08:41.42 | Che-Anarc | lemma alsaconf doesnt seem to save anything... and even after I dont the setup if I do /init.d/alsasound save,stop,start it reverts back. |
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08:45.00 | lemma | Che-Anarc: sorry, I really don't seem to know enough about alsa to help here. I'd suggest also asking in your distribution's channel - they might know more |
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08:45.19 | lemma | Che-Anarc: and apart from that I have to leave right now. but I wish you good luck for solving your sound problem |
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08:48.32 | darius12 | It seems, that nepomuk-aware folderview kinda works now |
08:49.27 | darius12 | you can tag things and they immediately show in folderview :-) |
08:50.20 | darius12 | of course it is slooooow, but it shows potential. If only we knew the syntax of nepomuksearch: ... |
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09:14.25 | brain0 | hi. I have kde 4.1 installed and still have kdelibs 3.5.10. now I don't have kcontrol anymore. how do I set the style of kde3 applications? |
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09:17.01 | gkiagia | brain0: try with qtconfig (the qt3 version) or reinstall kcontrol |
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09:17.24 | brain0 | gkiagia: is setting it with qtconfig enough |
09:17.34 | gkiagia | brain0: you can also edit the config file if you know the style that you want |
09:17.42 | brain0 | I can't reinstall kcontrol, unless I compile kdebase myself |
09:17.43 | gkiagia | brain0: I am not sure about that... |
09:17.47 | brain0 | well, what configuration would I edit |
09:17.50 | brain0 | that is the question? |
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09:18.13 | lemmaway | brain0: try "kcmshell style" on the commandline |
09:18.32 | brain0 | kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'style'. |
09:18.37 | lemmaway | brain0: but it only works if the control center style module for kde3 is still there |
09:18.48 | brain0 | that is part of kdebase as well |
09:19.06 | lemmaway | brain0: likely, yes :) |
09:20.08 | brain0 | I still have filelight, k3b, kdesvn and ksensors that require kdelibs3 |
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09:20.21 | gkiagia | brain0: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals under the [General] group, widgetStyle= line |
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09:23.05 | brain0 | gkiagia: thanks, that looks more like qtcurve now |
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09:23.44 | Marmirus | Hallo! I have question about dbus. is it possible to control kmix via dbus interface? how? in kde3 everything was simple via dcop. |
09:24.37 | brain0 | hmm, is knetload still being developed? |
09:25.51 | gkiagia | Marmirus: yes it is. use qdbus to see the services and methods that it provides |
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09:26.19 | kW | Hey, does anybody know how "khotkeys" is started when logging in? |
09:26.31 | brain0 | from my experience, khotkeys is broken in 4.1 |
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09:27.20 | gkiagia | kW: afaik it's a kde service loaded inside kded as a plugin |
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09:27.51 | Marmirus | gkiagia, wow! thank you! all clear with qdbus. i was trying via dbus-send :) |
09:28.05 | kW | gkiagia: for some reason, all settings I do in kcontrol are not applied when loggin in again |
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09:28.12 | kW | gkiagia: however, kcontrol remembers them |
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09:28.51 | gkiagia | kW: strange, I don't know |
09:28.58 | kW | gkiagia: I see "kded" beeing started with "--new-startup": "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" |
09:29.08 | kW | gkiagia: is it possible that this is the reason settings are not applied? |
09:30.18 | gkiagia | well, I don't know much about how kded works... and the --new-startup option is not even documented |
09:31.08 | kW | mhh :-( |
09:31.27 | gkiagia | kW: kde version? |
09:31.36 | kW | gkiagia: 3.5.9 |
09:31.45 | kW | used to be in some previous versions, too (like 3.5.7) |
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09:32.17 | gkiagia | I remember that it worked for me back in 3.5.x times |
09:32.26 | kW | gkiagia: mhh |
09:33.02 | gkiagia | it's pretty broken in 4.x, though, that's a known issue |
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09:45.49 | Che-Anarch | Simple question but how to make Konqueror show all files with permissions,etc? like ls -la |
09:46.06 | gkiagia | use details view |
09:46.16 | brain0 | and enable hidden files |
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09:46.56 | Che-Anarch | thanks |
09:47.07 | gionnico | i've got a problem with kipi-plugin trunk |
09:47.07 | gionnico | 11:43 < gionnico> http://rafb.net/p/3l1sMg43.html |
09:47.14 | gionnico | that's the pastebin log |
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09:53.26 | Jucato | gionnico: you might want to ask in #gentoo-kde or #genkdesvn (whichever gentoo channel caters to the kdesvn ebuilds) |
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09:54.22 | gionnico | did you see my ip or mail address when I logged in? |
09:54.32 | gionnico | because I don't think so but I don't know |
09:55.22 | CyBaH | hi all |
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09:56.01 | tony_ | <PROTECTED> |
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09:59.02 | brain0 | tony_: maybe you should ask in a ubuntu channel |
10:00.38 | Jucato | tony_: #kubuntu-kde4 please |
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10:01.16 | tony_ | ok, thanks |
10:05.14 | Fyl0n | I've upgraded KDE today to 3.5.10 and the only problem that I have at the moment is that my external taskbar isn't tranparent anymore.. |
10:05.14 | Fyl0n | How can I fix this? |
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10:07.20 | regomodo | does anyone else have major issues resizing a konsole window? |
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10:08.07 | friedrich| | there is some kio_http using big parts of my cpu :/ |
10:08.23 | friedrich| | although I have no konqueror or similar opened. |
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10:12.23 | kW | Hello, does anybody know when at the startup process KDE applies the mouse settings? In my case, after logging in, the mouse settings are always wrong (acceleration is set) while kcontrol shows the correct values. Only after hitting "apply" in kcontrol after logging in, the settings are applied. |
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10:17.14 | |jess| | #kontact |
10:17.50 | gwenn_ | hello |
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10:18.12 | gwenn_ | je cherche qqu'un qui peut m'aider sous fedora |
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10:21.06 | holycow | hi guys |
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10:21.36 | holycow | does anyone find that kmail works really weird with imap accounts? |
10:21.58 | holycow | i have 4 and whenever i click bewteen then it starts a new imap query of some sort, deletes all the new email then recreates this |
10:22.25 | holycow | i don't mind too much i'm using it on kde4 because its time to start trying to use it and contribute bug reports back |
10:22.37 | holycow | but just curious if i'm theonly one or other users have run into this as well |
10:23.14 | vesuv | hi there. |
10:23.29 | vesuv | is there something similiar to os x growl for kde? |
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10:25.15 | Jucato | holycow: you could try asking about the state of IMAP support in kmail in #kontact |
10:25.20 | holycow | oh aha |
10:25.22 | holycow | danke |
10:25.32 | Jucato | vesuv: um... it would help you described what "growl" is |
10:25.41 | Jucato | (not everyone has had the (dis)pleasure of using OS X) |
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10:26.25 | vesuv | Jucato: it's a "global notification system for the mac os x operating system" |
10:26.36 | vesuv | Jucato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growl_(software) |
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10:27.43 | holycow | vesuv: kde4 uses dbus |
10:27.46 | holycow | why do you ask? |
10:27.57 | Jucato | but notifications are mostly on a per-app basis |
10:28.07 | holycow | or i'm misundertanding what growl does |
10:28.34 | holycow | yeah well both gnome and kde3 and kde4 have underlying messaging built into the framework |
10:28.41 | holycow | its up to the applications to implement support for it |
10:28.42 | holycow | mostly |
10:28.53 | holycow | people think the sorts of things you see on a mac are stupid and useless |
10:29.02 | holycow | on the other hand, mac users disagree |
10:29.03 | holycow | :) |
10:29.04 | Jucato | "Growl is a notification system for Mac OS X: it allows applications that support Growl to send you notifications." <--- well that's really similar to KDE and KNotify |
10:29.05 | vesuv | holycow: because i'm playing around with mozilla ubiquity and it's using growl with os x. they don't support linux as well as other os, because they didn't seem to find (?) the right notification system |
10:29.08 | vesuv | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity/Ubiquity_0.1_User_Tutorial |
10:29.19 | holycow | thats idiotic |
10:29.24 | holycow | well its also mozilla |
10:29.32 | holycow | they generally are windows centric |
10:29.36 | vesuv | still, ubiquity is pretty amazing |
10:29.57 | holycow | we had to drag them kicking and screaming to actually fix huge portions of the underlying configuration bits to be unix friendly |
10:30.12 | holycow | basically just write off mozilla as a project thats nice to have so there is competition for microsoft |
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10:30.40 | holycow | on the whole they leave a lot to be desired, considering the large quantities of cash they have manage to generate |
10:31.16 | vesuv | i have to disagree on that |
10:31.41 | holycow | allright, go ahead :) |
10:31.41 | vesuv | but it's not important right now. i'll talk to aza and will show him knotify |
10:32.14 | vesuv | it seems to be the best analogy to growl right now. |
10:32.21 | Jucato | vesuv: I'm imagining they could make some clever d-bus stuff so that anyone can connect to their notifications |
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10:32.45 | vesuv | Jucato: thanks, i will forward that as well. |
10:32.48 | holycow | of course they could |
10:32.56 | holycow | vesuv: may i make a recommendation? |
10:32.58 | holycow | don't |
10:33.02 | holycow | mozilla knows about dbus |
10:33.23 | holycow | they aren't exactly unfamiliar with linux frameworks |
10:33.37 | holycow | there may indeed be a reason they didn't use dbus that i'm not aware of |
10:33.41 | vesuv | of course they do, but sometimes it helps to talk to some people to start new developments |
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10:34.20 | holycow | but the general topic with the mozilla team isn't about whether or not they know a b or c exists |
10:34.24 | holycow | its about whether or not they care |
10:34.28 | holycow | and the answer is they don't |
10:34.34 | holycow | they make their money from windows users via google |
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10:34.53 | vesuv | linux users are using google too. |
10:35.04 | holycow | if you were to look at the money they make |
10:35.11 | thiago | what's Google? :-P |
10:35.12 | holycow | linux users would roughly be 2% of revenue |
10:35.14 | holycow | i'm guessing |
10:35.18 | Jucato | notes that this is #kde, for KDE support, not "let's talk about Mozilla and Google" |
10:35.21 | holycow | but it really is that insignificant imho |
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10:35.36 | Jucato | #kde-chat if you want to continue |
10:35.38 | vesuv | Jucato: you're right. :) |
10:35.39 | holycow | alrighty, sorry, right pointless, vesuv if you get them to do something about it all cool :) |
10:35.55 | vesuv | i'll try |
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10:36.25 | vesuv | thanks for the help guys, i'm a newbie to kde ... at least to 4.1 |
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10:41.44 | root | is there anybody who can help me about a topic |
10:41.49 | root | ? |
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10:42.42 | Guest59177 | anyone interested in HLR Systems her e? |
10:42.56 | Guest59177 | is there anyone alive up hereeeeeeeee ? |
10:43.03 | Guest59177 | can anyone heaaaaarrrrrrr meeeeee ? |
10:43.31 | thiago | no |
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10:43.40 | Guest59177 | no |
10:43.41 | Guest59177 | ? |
10:43.45 | thiago | correct |
10:43.45 | Guest59177 | what is no ? |
10:43.53 | thiago | you've been in the channel for the whole of 2 minutes |
10:43.53 | Guest59177 | NO I am not interested ? |
10:43.56 | thiago | and you didn't ask a question |
10:44.07 | thiago | that's why you didn't get an answer |
10:44.08 | Guest59177 | yes I asked a question |
10:44.12 | thiago | no, you didn't |
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10:44.24 | Guest59177 | I asked if somebody can help me about HLR Systems |
10:44.26 | thiago | make a non-vague question, relating to KDE. |
10:44.39 | thiago | no one can help you |
10:44.43 | thiago | we don't know what your problem is. |
10:45.00 | thiago | if you want help, you have to say what your problem is. |
10:45.01 | Guest59177 | how on earth you can speak on behalf of everyone ? |
10:45.11 | thiago | as far as I know, no one here has a crystal ball |
10:45.30 | Jucato | Guest59177: we can't help you if we don't know what your problem is |
10:45.31 | thiago | so no one can help you without knowing what your problem is. |
10:45.46 | thiago | in other words: don't ask if someone can help you, just ask your question. |
10:45.47 | blauzahl | or we can just happily tell you that the answer is 42 and send you on your way |
10:45.48 | thiago | also mind you: KDE-related. |
10:45.50 | Jucato | and even if we do, we might not be able to help you if it is not a KDE problem |
10:45.57 | blauzahl | K42 |
10:46.09 | Guest59177 | allright |
10:46.15 | Guest59177 | thanks anyway |
10:46.21 | Guest59177 | ;) |
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10:47.03 | gsteinert | Guest59177: well then, whats your problem? |
10:47.25 | Guest59177 | actually my problem is this |
10:47.30 | Guest59177 | i am working on Hlr systems |
10:47.47 | Guest59177 | i mean GSM Networking |
10:48.02 | thiago | what's the relation to KDE? |
10:48.22 | thiago | I guess his GSM networking problem is that his connection drops :-P |
10:48.30 | gsteinert | i thikn |
10:48.41 | gsteinert | *i think he needs to get the hang of IRC first! |
10:48.55 | gsteinert | and i think i need to get the hang of typing :S |
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10:50.43 | gsteinert | i realise its not strictly a kde question, but ivetried the ubuntu channel with no success. my other box keeps shutting down randomly after i mount a second internal hard drive |
10:51.22 | gsteinert | it seems to be a remote shutdown-type-thing from root (similar to the reboot command just no rebooting!!) |
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11:11.22 | aantipop | i cant find a "show desktop" plasmoid, is there any ? |
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11:12.36 | gionnico | Hello! Is there a default IRC client for KDE-trunk? |
11:12.45 | gionnico | I'm using IRSSI on konsole now: that's crazy! |
11:13.21 | brain0 | irssi is great! |
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11:18.07 | gkiagia | gionnico: there is konversation for kde3... irssi is good though, I am using irssi too |
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11:21.49 | gionnico | ah thanks gkiagia.. someone suggested me kvir |
11:21.51 | gionnico | *kvirc |
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11:22.53 | arturo_on_rails | Hi all, what's the way forward in KDE to sync with a PDA? |
11:23.03 | arturo_on_rails | I man, what does everybody use? |
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11:24.09 | thorben | arturo_on_rails: KPilot if you got a palm? |
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11:26.04 | arturo_on_rails | thorben: I have angstrom-distribution + GPE on a hx4700 (ipaq) |
11:26.25 | arturo_on_rails | thorben: it supports multisync AFAIK, but does KDE support this? |
11:26.42 | arturo_on_rails | thorben: trying to find out info but pretty lost. |
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11:40.04 | arturo_on_rails | thorben: ok, thx |
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11:56.01 | Half-Left | 4.1.1 tagging today |
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11:56.34 | tomolds | I just installed KDE 4.1 and I was playing around with the effects. Having switched a few on, I pressed Apply and then my c |
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11:57.01 | tomolds | ...screen messed up it moved the whole screen down and went off the bottom of the screen but I can still move the mouse cursor around the whole screen, any ideas? |
11:57.47 | Half-Left | tomolds: can you Alt, f2? |
11:57.54 | tomolds | Yes I can |
11:58.36 | Half-Left | type system and go into systemsettings and disable it |
11:58.40 | tomolds | Half-Left: should I just remove ~/.kde? |
11:58.47 | Half-Left | No |
11:59.04 | tomolds | Alt-F2 gives me nothing I would have to go to another term |
11:59.10 | tomolds | Hence I could not have a graphical app |
11:59.31 | Half-Left | restart kwin |
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11:59.41 | tomolds | okay |
11:59.49 | tomolds | What should I type at the terminal? |
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12:00.05 | Half-Left | yep, just killall kwin |
12:00.39 | tomolds | okay done that but cannot get back to the term with KDE on it, what number does it usually run on |
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12:01.00 | Half-Left | is plasma running? |
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12:01.52 | Half-Left | Looks like you'll have to Ctrl, Alt, Backspace to restart KDE4 |
12:02.33 | tomolds | Yes I can restart X but I cannot get onto the tty containing X |
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12:02.59 | Half-Left | Just do that on the blank screen |
12:03.18 | tomolds | Half-Left: I did, to no avail |
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12:03.21 | Dialgarocks1 | =_= |
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12:03.59 | Half-Left | Restart X |
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12:05.19 | tomolds | When loading the splash all is normal |
12:05.49 | tomolds | It is only when it has loaded my desktop is visible for about an inchand the mouse cursor can move around the whole screen |
12:05.51 | Half-Left | I should make sure you have it setup right for composite |
12:05.57 | tomolds | right clicking gives me nothing. |
12:06.41 | Half-Left | ok |
12:06.53 | Half-Left | Alt, F2 |
12:07.00 | Half-Left | and type plasma |
12:07.19 | tomolds | I'm on it. |
12:07.39 | Jucato | tomolds: does everything look big? like zoomed in? |
12:08.05 | Jucato | btw, to restart kwin, all you need is "kwin --replace" |
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12:08.13 | tomolds | Not really if anything it is smaller because I had a clock widget and that is much smaller and in a different position. |
12:09.06 | Jucato | tomolds: this was after you enabled KWin Desktop Effects (in system settings)? |
12:09.06 | tomolds | Now some of my other screen has appeared. But I cannot click on anything |
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12:09.29 | tomolds | The clock has the second hand but it only refreshes like every 30 seconds or so |
12:09.35 | tomolds | strange problem |
12:09.47 | Half-Left | Is desktop effects still on? |
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12:10.05 | tomolds | Half-Left: Well I would imagine so, I cannot even right click though |
12:10.17 | Half-Left | Can you get to system settings? |
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12:10.50 | tomolds | Half-Left: Nope |
12:10.56 | Half-Left | What happens? |
12:12.13 | Half-Left | Jucato: Does your logout take a while to work? |
12:12.26 | Jucato | Half-Left: hm? |
12:12.38 | Half-Left | Jucato: Long delay on logout? |
12:12.45 | Jucato | nope |
12:12.45 | tomolds | Well I can't click on anything because nothing is clickable and my panel is not in view. |
12:12.52 | Half-Left | How long? |
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12:13.12 | Jucato | Half-Left: I can't really recall. because I have not logged out in a long while |
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12:13.48 | tomolds | Half-Left: I can SSH in with X now from another box and get the system settings dialog maybe, what is the term command? |
12:13.51 | Half-Left | Jucato: Logout takes about 10 seconds here and then sometimes goes white and back in, can't logout again after :/ |
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12:14.35 | Half-Left | tomolds: I think theres a kde safe login or term, just run systemsettings from there |
12:16.16 | tomolds | It says something interesting there that: Compositing is not supported in your system. X extensions are not available: XComposite and XDamage |
12:17.22 | Half-Left | Did you compile? |
12:18.02 | Half-Left | Because if you compiled without that x libs you need then composite wont work |
12:18.27 | Half-Left | Which is says |
12:18.33 | Half-Left | it* |
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12:33.27 | rapsys | hi, someone know where i may contact gwenview kde developpers ? |
12:33.47 | thiago | rapsys: email or #kde-devel |
12:34.23 | rapsys | thx |
12:36.02 | adamt | hey |
12:36.41 | adamt | how do i make the run-dialog look in all of my $PATH? (4.1) |
12:37.24 | gkiagia | it looks in $PATH.... |
12:37.41 | gkiagia | but you have to type the whole name of the application |
12:37.44 | adamt | no it doesn't |
12:37.54 | adamt | oh, you're right |
12:38.21 | adamt | why doesn't it try to complete stuff from /usr/local/bin/ ? |
12:38.59 | gkiagia | completion to any executable is not implemented and it doesn't make much sense too |
12:39.45 | gkiagia | because there are many command line applications that cannot be run from krunner |
12:40.00 | gkiagia | so, it completes only applications that provide a .desktop file |
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12:41.51 | adamt | gkiagia: quasselclient provides a .desktop-file, but no completion .. run-diag might need to be restarted though :P |
12:42.19 | icecruncher | hey, can anyone tell me how to manage sessions.. I'd like to disable switching sessions |
12:43.40 | gkiagia | adamt: you probably need to run kbuildsycoca4 |
12:44.15 | icecruncher | this is for kde 3.5 |
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12:44.56 | gkiagia | icecruncher: what do you mean by "switching sessions" ? |
12:45.41 | adamt | gkiagia: ah yes. thanks. |
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12:45.47 | icecruncher | well, instead of logging out, you can start a new x session. often used when an account is locked |
12:46.11 | gkiagia | ah, that kind of session |
12:47.21 | icecruncher | yes |
12:47.22 | gkiagia | no idea. that must be a kdm option |
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12:51.15 | icecruncher | kk |
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12:56.09 | Vinny`` | when I maximize a window in kde4.1 on dual screens it will not maximize on just one screen but both. Xinerama seems to be working fine. Twinview/nvidia card. |
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12:58.01 | concernedcitizen | any firefox users here? |
12:58.30 | concernedcitizen | firefox seems to be rendering textfields on kde w/o any borders |
12:58.44 | concernedcitizen | it seems to be blending with the page, and so most of the time, I got no idea where the textfields are |
12:59.03 | gkiagia | concernedcitizen: you could try to change the gtk style |
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12:59.29 | gkiagia | that reminds me of an old oxygen bug with konqueror... |
12:59.43 | concernedcitizen | how do I do that again? |
12:59.55 | concernedcitizen | o wai found it |
13:00.47 | gkiagia | Vinny``: I thought this was a twinview "feature"... does it work differently with kde 3.5 or gnome? |
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13:01.42 | gkiagia | I have tried twinview once with kde 4.0.x and I didn't like it because of that :) |
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13:31.22 | Guest57858 | hi, tell me in which repos i can find kde 4.1? |
13:31.29 | Guest57858 | it was released a long time ago |
13:31.34 | Guest57858 | and i can still se no upgrades |
13:31.43 | jazka | depends on your distro |
13:31.50 | Guest57858 | kubuntu 8.04 |
13:31.56 | jazka | #kubuntu-kde4 |
13:32.03 | Guest57858 | ok |
13:32.15 | jazka | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 or this |
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13:39.29 | FrostFeline | hey |
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13:46.18 | chrisinajar | ok, so I have an app that, sometimes, deletes and recreates a desktop icon really fast... it seems that kdesktop doesn't realize that the item came back, so it doesn't show the icon on the desktop even though it's in the desktop folder... Is there a way to //force// kdesktop to reload itself relatively seemlessly... this is on gutsy with kde 3.something |
13:46.54 | chrisinajar | seamlessly meaning with as little blinking, flashing, flickering, or anything similar as possible... |
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13:50.57 | neverendingo | chrisinajar: maybe you can try "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface refresh" in a konsole |
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13:55.06 | FrostFeline | If I use gtk-engine-qt are GTK libraries still loaded into RAM for GTK calling apps? |
13:55.18 | FrostFeline | (Using this inside of KDE) |
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13:56.11 | FrostFeline | is flipping all his softs to QT where possible |
13:56.47 | gkiagia | FrostFeline: yes, gtk-qt-engine is just a gtk theme |
13:57.02 | gionnico | Hi! I'm a kde-trunk very new user |
13:57.07 | FrostFeline | ah |
13:57.15 | FrostFeline | I'm going to miss firefox |
13:57.15 | gionnico | I was trying to personalize the bottom panel |
13:57.24 | gionnico | i'm going to miss konqueror |
13:57.29 | gionnico | since it's not building now |
13:57.33 | gionnico | and I'm with links2 :p |
13:57.41 | gionnico | and .. you could also use firefox ;) |
13:57.47 | FrostFeline | Well until that QT version that's in development |
13:58.04 | FrostFeline | COmes out |
13:58.07 | gionnico | or you could also use the gtk. but the qt version rox! well.. trying to personalize. |
13:58.25 | FrostFeline | Maybe it wont have these graphical glitchess |
13:58.27 | FrostFeline | :P |
13:58.39 | gionnico | but.. if I put (most of) an applet in this panel |
13:58.44 | gkiagia | ...which isn't so much of a qt port... rather than a custom version that draws cairo widgets using QPainter ;) |
13:58.47 | gionnico | it uses all the available space |
13:58.51 | gionnico | and I can't put another applet |
13:58.55 | gionnico | is there any separator? |
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13:59.49 | FrostFeline | Well I want to trim some fat off my system |
13:59.54 | gionnico | i'm really stuck |
13:59.59 | FrostFeline | So I'm sticking with my preferred DE |
14:00.05 | gkiagia | gionnico: it's meant to be like that. you can add new applets in the left or right side and it will adjust itself |
14:00.17 | gionnico | uhm.. it doesnt' though |
14:00.24 | gionnico | a red forbidden appears |
14:00.45 | gkiagia | what about using the "add widget" button from that dialog? |
14:01.00 | gkiagia | considering that you have opened the dialog from the panel |
14:01.20 | gionnico | ..i've opened it from the right of the panel |
14:01.21 | gionnico | then? |
14:01.28 | gionnico | add widget.. that's what I done |
14:01.29 | gionnico | then? |
14:01.44 | gionnico | i've added the clock |
14:01.48 | gionnico | now it uses all the space |
14:01.53 | gionnico | i can't add the news reader |
14:02.01 | gkiagia | click the news reader in the dialog |
14:02.07 | gkiagia | and click the add widget button |
14:02.23 | gionnico | ah.. |
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14:02.31 | gionnico | ok you should work on this though |
14:02.33 | gionnico | !!! |
14:02.40 | gionnico | thanks |
14:02.47 | gkiagia | sure, tell that to the plasma developers :) |
14:02.56 | gkiagia | but I think they are already aware of it |
14:03.26 | gionnico | lol |
14:03.34 | FrostFeline | Hehe |
14:03.37 | gionnico | news go over everything in the bar |
14:03.43 | FrostFeline | Well I like what I see in KDE4 |
14:03.45 | FrostFeline | :o) |
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14:04.03 | gionnico | this is a bug |
14:04.10 | gionnico | that they are surely aware of |
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14:05.14 | ESphynx | Anybody knows how to restart the KDE panel without killing X? |
14:05.41 | gkiagia | ESphynx: kde3 or kde4? |
14:05.52 | ESphynx | kde3 |
14:06.05 | gkiagia | killall kicker |
14:06.15 | gkiagia | and run again kicker to restart it |
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14:06.46 | ESphynx | Ah kicker |
14:06.50 | ESphynx | is what it's called? lol |
14:06.52 | gionnico | where the he*k is the list of opened windows? what's the applet name? |
14:07.02 | ESphynx | thanks :) |
14:07.15 | ESphynx | gionnico: With names like Kicker, one wonders :P |
14:07.24 | gkiagia | ESphynx: yes, it used to be called like that in kde <= 3.5.x :) |
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14:07.35 | gionnico | in kde4.. |
14:07.52 | gionnico | thanks a lot gkiagia. now i know how it's called in kde4 |
14:07.52 | gionnico | lol |
14:08.03 | gkiagia | it's called plasma in kde4 :P |
14:08.27 | gionnico | ..? |
14:08.31 | gionnico | i don't have the plasma applet |
14:08.46 | Theory | it's the Task Manager plasma applet iirc |
14:08.57 | gkiagia | gionnico: I am not talking about the task manager applet that you are looking for |
14:09.08 | gkiagia | gionnico: I am talking about the whole panel |
14:09.15 | gkiagia | and the whole desktop in general |
14:09.32 | gionnico | ok yes kiker was the whole panel, too |
14:09.38 | gionnico | task manager |
14:09.40 | gionnico | :) |
14:10.18 | ESphynx | thanks guys. |
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14:11.48 | gionnico | every applet goes both into the panel and free in the desktop |
14:11.55 | gionnico | that's cool. even if isn't well integrated |
14:12.39 | gionnico | vista used your code for the analog clock but for plasma in general i'm sure |
14:13.23 | gionnico | the calendar of the digital clock |
14:13.26 | gionnico | has a too small size |
14:13.34 | gionnico | so there are scroll bars |
14:13.47 | gionnico | makes no sense .. and one can't resize it |
14:14.23 | brain0 | "every applet goes both into the panel and free in the desktop" as of KDE 4.1, most applets look like crap when embedded in the taskbar |
14:14.31 | Half-Left | Vista? |
14:14.45 | gionnico | yes the graphical interface is too similar |
14:15.19 | gionnico | what is qt-subapplication? |
14:15.29 | gionnico | can I close it? if I do it's gone forever :p |
14:16.13 | gionnico | it's a desktop inside the desktop, isn't it? |
14:16.28 | Half-Left | Widget inside a widget |
14:16.44 | gionnico | but how to add it again? |
14:16.46 | gionnico | if I would |
14:17.10 | Half-Left | Just Add Widgets |
14:17.24 | FrostFeline | hm |
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14:17.44 | FrostFeline | What's opera, QT or GTK? The widgets don't make it obvious |
14:17.54 | Half-Left | Qt |
14:17.56 | gionnico | nope.. |
14:18.21 | Half-Left | It's there own widgets, has nothign to do with Plasma |
14:18.58 | gionnico | ah well but where is it? |
14:19.13 | Half-Left | Where is what? |
14:19.50 | FrostFeline | Ah well |
14:20.02 | Half-Left | Right Click Desktop-->Add Widgets or click on the plasma icon on the side of the panel |
14:20.09 | FrostFeline | I can live with it, It's only using 42M of ram instead of 3hundred |
14:20.23 | FrostFeline | is using KDE3 so plasma is like lolwut |
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14:21.03 | gionnico | Half-Left: and I don't find qt-subapplication |
14:21.07 | gionnico | (or how was it called) |
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14:21.26 | Half-Left | What exactly do you mean? |
14:21.37 | gionnico | i had a window |
14:21.38 | FrostFeline | Flash loaded :) |
14:21.47 | gionnico | called qt-something |
14:21.52 | gionnico | it came up the first time i started kde |
14:21.55 | gionnico | i've closed it |
14:22.00 | gionnico | how can i get it back? |
14:22.50 | FrostFeline | noticed a distinct slowdown xD |
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14:23.26 | gionnico | i've got a problem: with desktop effects windows take 4-5 seconds to maximize/minimize |
14:23.47 | gionnico | or better maximize/restore |
14:24.17 | gkiagia | nvidia? |
14:24.25 | gionnico | yup |
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14:24.33 | gkiagia | known problem |
14:24.35 | gkiagia | :) |
14:24.37 | gionnico | ah ok |
14:24.40 | gionnico | good xd |
14:24.41 | Mitsuo | possible to cancel kate backups? |
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14:24.59 | gkiagia | gionnico: it's a bug in the nvidia driver, though |
14:25.05 | gkiagia | not much we can do about it |
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14:25.16 | Half-Left | WHAT, nvidia slow in 2d, No way.........!&*$ |
14:25.22 | gionnico | i had heard about it. |
14:25.23 | Half-Left | :p |
14:25.29 | gionnico | you told the nvidia devs |
14:25.35 | gionnico | they usually listen to "us" |
14:25.37 | gkiagia | lol Half-Left |
14:25.54 | gkiagia | Mitsuo: yes |
14:25.57 | gionnico | hehe i'd rather a 3d fast desktop |
14:26.15 | gkiagia | Mitsuo: in the saving options in kate's config dialog |
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14:27.10 | gkiagia | gionnico: we've had endless discussions about the nvidia trouble in here |
14:27.21 | gkiagia | gionnico: and of course, nvidia knows about it |
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14:29.26 | Shaman | eep... 3.5.10 dump on ubuntu this morning |
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14:31.58 | hass | hi, can somebody tell me if this is a known error? http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde4li6.jpg |
14:32.11 | hass | desktop does not take all the screen size :/ |
14:33.04 | gkiagia | hass: I have seen this many times |
14:33.35 | hass | gkiagia, great I'm not hopeless then :> |
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14:35.41 | gkiagia | hass: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163676 ? |
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14:37.34 | hass | thanks gkiagia :) |
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15:55.10 | iandeb | hi. Are there any projects running to port quanta plus to KDE4 |
15:55.12 | iandeb | ? |
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16:00.06 | StyXman | iandeb: http://lists.kde.org/?l=quanta-devel&w=2&r=1&s=port+kde4&q=b |
16:01.16 | StyXman | iandeb: seems like not much latelly :( |
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16:24.41 | chlue | Hello. I am in the progress of trying kde4.1, but it seems that the ipv6 problem hit me again. I allready have KDE_NO_IPV6=TRUE in /etc/environment, which solved this problem for kde 3.59. Do it need to set this at another place for kde4? |
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17:13.22 | hurra | hi |
17:13.50 | hurra | i followed the guide on kdetechbase (http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdelibs) |
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17:13.54 | hurra | but now kdelibs won't build |
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17:14.00 | hurra | this is trunk |
17:14.23 | StyXman | hurra: what you mean with 'won't build"? |
17:14.43 | hurra | StyXman: http://rafb.net/p/SJibDL49.html |
17:14.45 | hurra | i get an error |
17:14.49 | hurra | what did i do wrong? |
17:14.59 | hurra | ah, wait |
17:15.01 | StyXman | gimme a sec... |
17:15.22 | hurra | maybe my env-vars are not set correctly |
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17:15.37 | StyXman | hmm, seems like it can't find kparts, but that is in kdelibs itself |
17:15.46 | hurra | kdelibs built just fine |
17:15.51 | StyXman | and this is kdebase? |
17:15.59 | hurra | yeah |
17:16.15 | StyXman | hurra: heh, you said kdelibs :) |
17:16.22 | hurra | eeh, sorry :) |
17:16.29 | hurra | i'm trying again now |
17:16.58 | StyXman | something's not right there |
17:17.16 | StyXman | cannot find -lkparts:/home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib/libQtGui.so |
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17:18.39 | hurra | yeah |
17:18.45 | hurra | as you can see, i'm using qt-copy |
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17:20.08 | hurra | nah, same error |
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17:20.44 | StyXman | hurra: me too® |
17:20.49 | hurra | ok |
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17:22.43 | hurra | i just checked again, qt and kdelibs built fine |
17:23.18 | StyXman | hurra: seems like a problem configuring kdebase |
17:25.26 | hurra | anyone has a hint for me? |
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17:26.59 | StyXman | hurra: try deleting the whole build/kdebase/apps/lib/konq/, rerun cmake, and see what happens |
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17:27.16 | hurra | i already delete the build-dir of kdebase |
17:27.20 | hurra | doesn't help |
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17:27.36 | StyXman | hmmm |
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17:29.05 | murph | Is there a way to bind the 'desktop grid' desktop effect to a mouse key (button 10) instead of a keyboard hotkey? |
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17:29.10 | StyXman | hurra: can you confirm that libkparts exists in your $KDEDIR |
17:29.13 | StyXman | ? |
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17:29.44 | hurra | StyXman: /home/kde-devel/kde/lib/libkparts.so |
17:29.47 | hurra | yes, it's there |
17:30.02 | hurra | kdedir = /home/kde-devel/kde |
17:30.14 | StyXman | I see |
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17:30.52 | StyXman | hurra: can you read the Makefile and see if there's a bug in its generation? |
17:30.59 | StyXman | (or paste it) |
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17:31.03 | hurra | what makefile? |
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17:31.35 | hurra | the one from kdebase ? |
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17:32.40 | StyXman | hurra: the one for kdebase/apps/lib/konq/ |
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17:33.01 | hurra | i'll pastebin it |
17:33.05 | StyXman | k |
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17:33.54 | hurra | StyXman: http://rafb.net/p/CfKbgU48.html |
17:34.39 | StyXman | hurra: no kparts reference |
17:34.48 | hurra | that means? |
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17:35.13 | CPrgmSwR2 | kde4 rulez |
17:35.46 | StyXman | hurra: wrong Makefiel. try running make without -j, so we can be sure which part is compiling when it fails |
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17:37.54 | hurra | ok, so i'm doing a make clean, and then make again |
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17:38.34 | StyXman | ok, but no -j option :-P |
17:38.38 | hurra | right |
17:38.51 | hurra | i was using the cmakekde-macro (-j2 by default) |
17:39.04 | StyXman | hmm |
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17:44.23 | hurra | StyXman: http://rafb.net/p/aZBMNb18.html |
17:44.25 | hurra | same error |
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17:46.00 | StyXman | ok, it was indeed the wrong Makefile. paste the one in runtime/renamedlgplugins/audio/CMakeFiles/renaudioplugin.dir/ |
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17:46.39 | hurra | StyXman: there is no makefile in that dir |
17:46.48 | StyXman | ok, let's see |
17:47.15 | hurra | http://rafb.net/p/3A0zwu20.html |
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17:48.29 | hurra | maybe it's build.make ? |
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17:50.25 | StyXman | hmm, seems like is the link.txt |
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17:51.05 | hurra | http://rafb.net/p/DPWgBr31.html |
17:51.07 | gionnico | is kde-svn gcc 4.3.1 compatible? |
17:51.23 | gionnico | 'cause I can't compile k3b and konqueror, umbrello |
17:51.46 | gionnico | kipi-plugins, digikam |
17:51.59 | gionnico | and the error is |
17:51.59 | gionnico | Linking CXX executable k3b |
17:52.03 | gionnico | [ 94%] Built target k3b_bin |
17:52.07 | gionnico | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
17:52.08 | gionnico | error in LINKING.. |
17:52.20 | StyXman | gionnico: doesn't mention what the error is? |
17:52.25 | gionnico | no.. |
17:52.42 | gionnico | before: /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/libk3bdevice/k3bmsf.h:112: warning: âkndbgstreamâ is deprecated (declared at /usr/kde/svn/include/kdebug.h:212) |
17:52.46 | hurra | StyXman: looks as it's lookin in the wrong .so-file for kparts ? |
17:52.48 | gionnico | but deprecated isn't die |
17:52.50 | StyXman | gionnico: gcc --version |
17:52.50 | StyXman | gcc (Debian 4.3.1-9) 4.3.1 |
17:52.59 | gkiagia | gionnico: do the gentoo scripts redirect stderr somwhere else? |
17:53.12 | gionnico | gcc (Gentoo 4.3.1-r1 p1.1) 4.3.1 |
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17:53.41 | gionnico | it's 1 day that I try |
17:53.47 | gionnico | i installed all the rest |
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17:54.02 | StyXman | hurra: not sure, what I'm sure about is that -lkparts:/home/kde-devel/qt-copy/lib/libQtGui.so is wrong |
17:54.07 | gionnico | no stderr should be there |
17:54.17 | gionnico | and the build.log is a copy |
17:54.56 | StyXman | hurra: maybe ask in #kde-devel |
17:55.04 | Dedicated | i have again 170% of f** IO-Wait usage and want to find out what causes it (nooo top does not work....) |
17:55.24 | hurra | StyXman: thanks! |
17:55.46 | gionnico | the very complete log: http://rafb.net/p/UIe6iD73.html |
17:56.01 | StyXman | Dedicated: iotop? |
17:57.26 | Dedicated | StyXman: that may work, thanks |
17:57.55 | gkiagia | gionnico: would it be possible to run make with VERBOSE=1 ? like that: "make VERBOSE=1" |
17:58.54 | gkiagia | that should show the full command line that make invokes, so it should be easier to spot the error |
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17:59.41 | gionnico | yes works |
18:00.47 | URBrainwashed | is there a cascade in kde 3? |
18:01.12 | gionnico | http://rafb.net/p/DiozII29.html |
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18:03.42 | gkiagia | hm, that's not what I expected to see |
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18:06.32 | gkiagia | ah, it's ok... konqueror can't render rafb.net apparently |
18:07.18 | gionnico | ah .. |
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18:08.37 | gkiagia | gionnico: no apparent error |
18:08.43 | gkiagia | gionnico: maybe a bug in make? :P |
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18:09.22 | URBrainwashed | is there a cascade in kde 3? |
18:09.39 | gkiagia | the question is... what is cascade? |
18:09.56 | URBrainwashed | where the windows are cascaded? |
18:10.05 | thiago_home | rafb.net works just fine |
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18:10.30 | gkiagia | thiago_home: that specific link does not.. try to scroll to the right and everything disappears |
18:10.50 | gkiagia | while in firefox it shows the rest of the line :) |
18:11.01 | ps__ | hi all |
18:11.08 | thiago_home | ah, I see |
18:11.08 | ps__ | where are u from? |
18:11.16 | gkiagia | line 276 for example |
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18:11.20 | ps__ | just interest |
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18:11.40 | thiago_home | upgrade to KDE 4 |
18:11.41 | gkiagia | ps__: from outer space :P |
18:11.49 | thiago_home | appears to work fine in KDE 4 for me |
18:11.57 | gkiagia | thiago_home: kde 4.1.0 here |
18:12.05 | gkiagia | maybe it's fixed in trunk? |
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18:12.23 | thiago_home | using trunk here |
18:12.36 | gkiagia | hm, maybe it's fixed in trunk then |
18:12.44 | gionnico | maybe I found the error |
18:12.45 | gionnico | /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/src/k3bdiskinfoview.cpp: In function âQString<unnamed>::trackItem(const K3bMedium&, int)â: |
18:12.49 | gionnico | /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/src/k3bdiskinfoview.cpp:215: error: expected `;' before âsâ |
18:12.53 | gionnico | /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b_build/CMakeFiles |
18:12.57 | gionnico | [ 90%] Building CXX object k3b/src/CMakeFiles/k3b_bin.dir/k3bthemedheader.o |
18:13.07 | thiago_home | gkiagia: ah, it disappears on line 276 still |
18:13.16 | thiago_home | it's better than KDE 3, but still broken |
18:13.46 | gionnico | do you think this is a blocker error? |
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18:14.07 | gkiagia | gionnico: hey! that's it! |
18:14.16 | thiago_home | works fine with WebKit |
18:14.28 | gionnico | :-] VERBOSE=1 USE="debug" and make with -g :D |
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18:14.36 | thiago_home | gionnico: it might be easy to fix. |
18:14.38 | gkiagia | hehe :) |
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18:15.19 | gionnico | strange that only I couldn't compile k3b because of this |
18:15.27 | gionnico | let's debug konqueror |
18:15.33 | gionnico | PS should I file a bug? |
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18:18.25 | ShellEvil | Some pictures do not have preview icons on the desktop, though clicking on them launches quikshow as a valid jpg. |
18:18.34 | ShellEvil | Any thoughts as to why? |
18:18.39 | ShellEvil | Is there a filesize limit? |
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18:19.11 | gkiagia | gionnico: open that file (/var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/src/k3bdiskinfoview.cpp) find line 212 and add a semicolon (;) at the end |
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18:19.39 | gionnico | yes.. what i'm doing |
18:19.45 | gionnico | but do they know about this? |
18:20.06 | gkiagia | probably no, because the code is in #ifdef |
18:20.15 | gkiagia | so they may not be compiling it |
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18:23.06 | gionnico | devs NEVER debug lol |
18:23.12 | gkiagia | lol |
18:23.49 | thiago_home | gionnico: is that a released version of k3b? |
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18:25.19 | thiago_home | if not, don't file a bug report for a compilation issue |
18:25.25 | GuyFromHell | My resizing of windows is running slow with the fancy desktop stuff (with nvidia NVS 440m). Is there a guide for recommended xorg.conf settings to fix this? |
18:25.45 | GuyFromHell | (nvs 440m == geforce 8800 i think) |
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18:26.18 | thiago_home | GuyFromHell: disable the effects |
18:26.22 | gionnico | thiago: no svn |
18:26.24 | gionnico | trunk |
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18:26.30 | thiago_home | there are fixes to that, but they haven't been applied to 4.1 yet |
18:26.39 | thiago_home | you can compile SVN for 4.2 if you want for the fixes |
18:26.45 | gionnico | i LOVE KMAIL! auto uses the maximum securities :k |
18:26.47 | thiago_home | gionnico: then don't file the bug report. Either fix, or wait for the fix. |
18:26.53 | GuyFromHell | thiago_home, oh it's not just my compy's xorg settings, it's more widespread? |
18:26.55 | gionnico | ... why? |
18:27.02 | gionnico | i had just subscribed in bugs.kde.org |
18:27.17 | gionnico | isn't there a svn version bug? |
18:28.04 | thiago_home | GuyFromHell: yes |
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18:28.17 | GuyFromHell | Darn, guess i'm using wmii for a bit longer... |
18:28.21 | treach | http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA |
18:28.28 | gionnico | let's see if i compile konqueror |
18:28.35 | gionnico | so that I can easily file bugs >:-] |
18:29.01 | gionnico | I think they break konqueror so that they don't get annoyed by bugs submissions ghgh |
18:30.10 | GuyFromHell | treach, thanks i'll give that a shot before i abandon kde4 for a bit more |
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18:30.20 | treach | np |
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18:33.11 | gionnico | ROFL! The bug I discovered .. WAS BECAUSE I USED DEBUG IN CONFIGURE! ROFL |
18:33.21 | gionnico | it wasn't the bug I knew |
18:33.31 | gionnico | OMG LMAO |
18:33.38 | GuyFromHell | treach, Shiny, that nvidia-settings command did the trick. |
18:33.54 | gionnico | but ffmpeg which I had been advised is the problem i've found it |
18:33.56 | gionnico | /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/plugins/decoder/ffmpeg/k3bffmpegwrapper.cpp:20:28: error: ffmpeg/avcodec.h: No such file or directory |
18:33.56 | treach | good. I guess I now dare try it as well. ;) |
18:33.59 | gionnico | /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-9999/work/k3b/k3b/plugins/decoder/ffmpeg/k3bffmpegwrapper.cpp:21:29: error: ffmpeg/avformat.h: No such file or directory |
18:34.09 | GuyFromHell | treach, >_> i was the guinea pig eh? :P |
18:34.39 | treach | well, you should read all the information before trying. |
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18:37.41 | WorldBFree | is there a way to make control c work in the terminal? |
18:37.58 | WorldBFree | like i know that kills a process |
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18:38.07 | WorldBFree | but i like being able to quickly copy and paste |
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18:38.19 | gionnico | select with the mouse |
18:38.23 | gionnico | and then middle button |
18:38.26 | gionnico | not quick enough? |
18:38.31 | GuyFromHell | treach, but that way is boring compared to the gung ho "lets try it out" |
18:39.23 | treach | :> |
18:39.27 | WorldBFree | well say im alt tabbing and dont wish to touch the mouse |
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18:39.42 | WorldBFree | certainly excel users can appreciate not having to use a mouse to slow down |
18:40.11 | GuyFromHell | WorldBFree, if your using konsole you can just make a shortcut for copy, i think the default is ctrl+shift+c |
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18:42.39 | gkiagia | WorldBFree: in kde4 it's ctrl+shift+c |
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18:43.33 | WorldBFree | is there a way to switch control c and control shift c? |
18:43.42 | WorldBFree | like ctrl shift c to kill a process? |
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18:44.51 | gionnico | /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/konqueror-9999/work/konqueror/apps/konqueror/sidebar/trees/konq_sidebartreetoplevelitem.cpp:114: undefined reference to `KParts::OpenUrlArguments::~OpenUrlArguments()' |
18:44.55 | gionnico | /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/konqueror-9999/work/konqueror/apps/konqueror/sidebar/trees/konq_sidebartreetoplevelitem.cpp:114: undefined reference to `KParts::BrowserArguments::~BrowserArguments()' |
18:44.59 | gionnico | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
18:45.03 | gionnico | make[2]: *** [lib/konq_sidebartree_dirtree.so] Error 1 |
18:45.07 | gionnico | make[1]: *** [apps/konqueror/sidebar/trees/dirtree_module/CMakeFiles/konq_sidebartree_dirtree.dir/all] Error 2 |
18:45.11 | gionnico | make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... |
18:45.15 | gionnico | Linking CXX shared module ../../../../lib/konqsidebar_tree.so |
18:45.17 | gionnico | konqueror |
18:45.20 | gionnico | is the error in CmakeFiles? |
18:45.26 | WorldBFree | wouldnt pastebin have been better for that? |
18:45.43 | gionnico | hmm it was border-line |
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18:48.56 | WorldBFree | i found a pratical solution i wish i thought of before. just use the win key |
18:49.04 | WorldBFree | win+c |
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18:50.43 | gkiagia | gionnico: that must be the issue with kparts that everyone is talking about |
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18:54.19 | kriko | When is KDE 4.1.1 coming out? |
18:54.40 | Half-Left | Been tagged today |
18:54.51 | jazka | September 3rd |
18:54.53 | kriko | that means.... |
18:54.56 | kriko | thanks! |
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18:58.23 | gionnico | gkiagia : if everyone is talking about it it's ok |
18:58.27 | gionnico | it'll be fixed soon |
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19:07.53 | Getty | someone could help me how to install some theme of kde-look? i tried nearly anything but i just dont get kth files for install of theme |
19:08.03 | URBrainwashed | how come you can cascade from the desktop but no one else? |
19:08.11 | URBrainwashed | and it only applies to kde windows? |
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19:08.28 | Orfeous | any nice themes that you are using? :) |
19:08.32 | URBrainwashed | why would you put cascade on the desk then you have to move all the windows out of the way you want to clean up |
19:08.34 | Orfeous | screenshots? |
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19:19.12 | klerfayt | what's up with gtk-qt need to relog into kde4? will it be changed at some point? |
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19:20.45 | thiago_home | we don't handle gtk-qt |
19:20.54 | thiago_home | so you're asking the wrong channel |
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19:22.48 | Getty | i get crazy bringing on any kde theme... |
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19:23.51 | cgranade | Quick KDE 4.0 question (I know 4.1 is out-- haven't upgraded yet). When using KDE in a multi-screen environment, how do I get the panel onto the secondary screen? |
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19:24.24 | cgranade | Used to be an option under Panel settings for which screen I wanted a panel to be on, but I don't see it under Plasma. |
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19:26.41 | xjohnthomasx | hiiiiiiiii, is anyone there an expert in kde and kubuntu who can help me get my dual head setup to work? i've tried all of the man pages and wiki pages and bulletin board systems.. and there is no straight, single answer to my issues... i keep running into problems that no one knows answers to............ and i need help from the beginning of it. i've plugged the monitor in to both power and to the second graphic output of the cpu.. |
19:26.41 | xjohnthomasx | [15:17] <xjohnthomasx> and that is it now.... pleasseeeeeeeee!!!!!! |
19:27.58 | cgranade | xjohnthomasx: Not really a KDE issue. You'll want to find someone who is good with Xorg. |
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19:41.43 | |gunni| | xjohnthomasx: graphic card vendor? |
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19:45.37 | xjohnthomasx | |gunni|: nvidia |
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19:46.24 | |gunni| | Easiest way than should be dualview. i will paste you my xorg.conf that works, maybe you will be able to adapt it |
19:46.38 | |gunni| | Just one moment |
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19:48.05 | |gunni| | xjohnthomasx: http://pastebin.com/m54e71450 |
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20:03.05 | delroth | well |
20:03.07 | delroth | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/83553/ |
20:03.15 | delroth | I would like to ask you wtf happened ? |
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20:03.38 | delroth | KDE was fork bombing my system |
20:03.43 | delroth | I could not launch anything more |
20:04.14 | Half-Left | Anything for configuring wirelss in KDE4.x? |
20:04.21 | Half-Left | wireless* |
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20:08.21 | pgib | Half-Left: you can always use iwconfig |
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20:09.29 | ESphynx | Hey guys, how do I disable this annoyying kde-cache thing ? I type a url in Run command, and firefox gets that junk |
20:09.57 | gionnico | Linking CXX shared library ../../../lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so |
20:10.04 | gionnico | here my konqueror build ends |
20:10.35 | gionnico | My konqueror fail build log: http://rafb.net/p/J0TrnN65.html |
20:10.54 | gionnico | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
20:11.05 | gionnico | isnt' this strange? ld error ..... |
20:11.14 | gionnico | i use gcc-4.3.1 |
20:11.18 | gionnico | (konqueror trunk) |
20:12.29 | Barafu | Tell me, is there a standart way to solve this. I am sitting in KDE, and at this moment some daemon needs to tell me something. How can I do this - i don't see terminal at the moment, so echo don't work |
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20:13.51 | gkiagia | daemons usually log things in /var/log/daemon.log |
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20:15.53 | Barafu | Yes, that.s right. But what if info is urgent and I need it as fast as possible? I don't check logs every minute. |
20:16.27 | gkiagia | use KSystemLog maybe |
20:16.47 | gkiagia | ok, if you are talking about wall messages, that seems to be broken in kde |
20:16.48 | shadok | Barafu: tailf /var/log/deamon.log in a conky instance on the desktop or you can even use xosd to generate an osd message |
20:17.30 | Barafu | xosd& Never heard, shall read a bit.... |
20:20.03 | SimAtWork | what's the name of the 'widget' app for kde 3.x? |
20:20.12 | SimAtWork | i know it has a k in it ;) |
20:20.27 | Barafu | Xosd is a library. I can use python as well. |
20:20.30 | Half-Left | pgib: Ahh thanks |
20:20.33 | Barafu | superKaramba |
20:21.41 | SimAtWork | thnx |
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20:22.25 | gkiagia | SimAtWork: everything has a k in it :P |
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20:23.22 | Guest38411 | c è qualcuno? |
20:24.20 | Guest38411 | ? |
20:24.30 | SimAtWork | uhm |
20:24.33 | SimAtWork | superkaramba is weird |
20:24.33 | Q-collective | heh |
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20:24.38 | SimAtWork | i added the lcars monitor |
20:24.45 | SimAtWork | and now it just keeps minimizing |
20:24.46 | SimAtWork | or something |
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20:35.27 | Half-Left | Now thats strange, just updated 4.1 to 4.1.1 branch and it fixes graphics corruption on the panel settings, I though that was a nvidia beta IPP=2 issue |
20:35.38 | Half-Left | thought* |
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21:24.52 | aidy | hi |
21:25.09 | aidy | how do i sync up all applications like kontact and the adressbook |
21:25.12 | aidy | and kmail |
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21:32.39 | scifi | Hi guys, im having trouble with kdewallet either not saving or not accepting my password, can anyone advise me on this???? |
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21:34.39 | unr3a1 | hey all |
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21:34.57 | unr3a1 | I am looking for the location of the color scheme files within kde 3.5 in slackware. does anyone know where these are? |
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21:45.00 | workaphobia | Does anyone know of a way to disable antialiased fonts just for konsole? |
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21:50.20 | Shirakawasuna | I accidentally removed the trash:/ icon on dolphin, is there a way to re-add it to 'places'? |
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21:59.03 | Googie | hi all... I have a quick question. I have configured Klipper to synchronize the contents of the clipboard with the mouse selection. This works, but only when Klipper is running, so I have to restart klipper every time I log in. Is there some way to make this synchronization permanent across log-ins? |
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21:59.55 | Googie | I use Konsole for most my work |
22:01.22 | gkiagia | Shirakawasuna: add something else to the places and then change it's location to "trash:/" |
22:02.41 | gkiagia | Googie: klipper should autostart on each kde login |
22:04.02 | Googie | gkiagia: then I think on my system it doesn't... how can I check? |
22:04.45 | gkiagia | well, maybe you don't use sessions? |
22:05.28 | gkiagia | you can put it in autostart if it doesn't start automatically |
22:05.36 | aanderse | anyone running kdevelop4 beta here? |
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22:09.41 | Googie | gkiagia: thanks.. I think I'll do that (just as soon as I learn how to ;)) |
22:09.55 | gkiagia | Googie: kde3 or kde4 ? |
22:10.06 | Shirakawasuna | gkiagia: ah, thanks! |
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22:11.56 | Googie | gkiagia: actually like you mentioned, I'm not really using a KDE session (just Konsole) |
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22:12.21 | gkiagia | ah, that's why it doesn't autostart |
22:13.25 | Googie | gkiagia: I just made some changes to my current session. Hopefully it should start from next time around, thanks for your help! |
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22:16.30 | delroth | hey |
22:16.37 | delroth | kdeinit4 is fork bombing my system |
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22:16.59 | delroth | I was not able to create any more processes because of kdeinit4 |
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22:19.22 | gkiagia | delroth: do you also get many konqueror processes? |
22:19.27 | delroth | no |
22:19.33 | delroth | only kdeinit4 |
22:19.56 | delroth | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/83553/ btw |
22:22.03 | gkiagia | I also have many kio_http processes running |
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22:22.20 | gkiagia | about 10 |
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22:23.19 | gkiagia | so that could be a bug somwhere, but I don't know |
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22:28.04 | Preytell | Anyone here use Glipper? |
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22:28.44 | gkiagia | Preytell: that's for gnome |
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22:28.52 | Preytell | yeah. |
22:28.56 | gkiagia | so, I don't think anyone in here uses it :) |
22:28.56 | Preytell | I use klipper. |
22:29.08 | Preytell | but I just wondered if anyone has tried it. |
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22:59.20 | wng- | Is there a qt-based mail client that works with Exchange Servers reasonably well? Or am I stuck with Evolution? |
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23:01.33 | CyberBird_ | try kmail |
23:02.37 | wng- | it has no option for exchange servers, already did |
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23:09.44 | alsuren | is anyone here running konqueror from kde3.5 and can verify that this page makes konq crash: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8017 |
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23:13.32 | shadok | alsuren: runs fine on konqui 3.5.9 with flash |
23:14.21 | alsuren | meh. must be something subtle |
23:14.34 | alsuren | *opens it in firefox instead* |
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