| 00:00.21 | Pliskin | it's not implemented yet I think imho |
| 00:00.36 | Pliskin | it's one of the regressions |
| 00:01.00 | Dr_Cain | ouch |
| 00:01.17 | Dr_Cain | because my taskbar is cluttered with stuff right now.. can't make out what's what |
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| 00:01.51 | Dr_Cain | and starting another panel on another monitor shows all the stuff, not just what's on the current screen |
| 00:01.57 | Dr_Cain | or desktop |
| 00:01.59 | Dr_Cain | kind of annoying |
| 00:02.16 | Pliskin | use the kde3 kicker on KDE4 xD |
| 00:02.26 | Dr_Cain | lol X) |
| 00:02.28 | Dr_Cain | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166699 |
| 00:02.28 | Dr_Cain | hmm |
| 00:02.33 | Dr_Cain | says it's fixed in 4.1 :o |
| 00:02.43 | Dr_Cain | I just can't find it... |
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| 00:04.08 | Pliskin | From Stephen Ostrow 2008-08-04 08:14 |
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| 00:04.14 | getBoa | Pliskin: Im about to do it xD |
| 00:04.17 | Pliskin | He saw that after the release |
| 00:04.21 | yxz97 | hi guys. |
| 00:04.25 | Dr_Cain | hmm, true |
| 00:04.29 | Pliskin | so maybe you have to wait for 4.1.1 |
| 00:04.35 | yxz97 | How Can I stop konqueror embedded media player...... |
| 00:04.58 | Pliskin | getBoa : using kicker ? xD |
| 00:05.01 | yxz97 | I cant see the media player interfaz UI, to stop the file is playing....shit |
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| 00:06.11 | yxz97 | shello, there =! |
| 00:06.12 | yxz97 | !help |
| 00:06.42 | yxz97 | I selected the FileSize View and now...is playing this fucking file..I need stop it.! |
| 00:07.17 | Dr_Cain | whoops I think plasma just died.. |
| 00:07.20 | Dr_Cain | now has no task bar X_x |
| 00:08.23 | getBoa | Pliskin: just kidding... actually the only one thing thats annoying me is the FN key and the volume wheel... they aint working =/ |
| 00:08.30 | killown | I can't see KDE Control Center -> Appearance Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts I gotta to install anything to have this option ? |
| 00:09.02 | Pliskin | gtk-kde4 ? |
| 00:09.07 | Pliskin | or smething like that |
| 00:09.16 | yxz97 | HELP, THERE !!! |
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| 00:10.57 | Pliskin | getBoa : you mean the fraking bug of the hotkeys ? |
| 00:11.10 | Dr_Cain | Hah found it |
| 00:11.25 | Dr_Cain | you had to right click at EXACTLY the right place |
| 00:11.54 | Dr_Cain | and you should find a "panel options" |
| 00:12.11 | getBoa | Pliskin: exactly that one |
| 00:12.24 | Dr_Cain | "task manager settings" |
| 00:12.38 | Dr_Cain | like between two applications.. very easy to find.. not :P |
| 00:13.28 | Pliskin | and it works without bug ? |
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| 00:15.08 | getBoa | Im mad cos it was running so good so far on gnome... and than when i do decide to test the kde4.1, I got that hotkey issues =/ |
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| 00:25.26 | roldyx | hello.. I am using kopete.. but webcam dont work.. |
| 00:25.44 | roldyx | I need any additional package? |
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| 01:08.53 | pqlsztjoz | i installed KDE-windows: now what do i do? how do i run this? |
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| 01:36.22 | PeterFA | For some reason, kedit couldn't save to a remote server over ftp and the server just tossed the file. I need that file back. Is it saved in my temp directory? |
| 01:36.43 | PeterFA | How do I find where it is? |
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| 01:47.47 | shadok | PeterFA: you could try grepping through you temp folders to find it |
| 01:48.13 | shadok | grep -R somestring /mytmpfolder |
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| 02:15.08 | PeterFA | shadok, I found it, thanks. |
| 02:15.34 | shadok | glad you did :) |
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| 02:23.10 | NooKia | whats the kde endorsed distribution to try kde 4? |
| 02:23.29 | drantin | ...kde endorses a distribution? |
| 02:23.33 | drantin | news to me |
| 02:24.54 | pinotree | kde endorses no distro |
| 02:25.58 | drantin | NooKia: windows |
| 02:26.05 | NooKia | it used to endorse SLAX |
| 02:26.32 | pinotree | nope |
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| 02:53.56 | RawSushi | question..how do I get my sound effects working? |
| 02:54.02 | RawSushi | eg. when I minimize windows |
| 02:54.10 | RawSushi | my startup sound works |
| 02:54.14 | RawSushi | and everything else seems to work |
| 02:54.33 | RawSushi | in KDE4 that is |
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| 03:15.32 | Schijnn | What's the name of the cookie handler service? |
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| 03:17.29 | dpalacio | is KDE4's kpackage only able to handle the «smart» package manager? |
| 03:18.10 | Jucato | dpalacio: yes it uses smartpm, and smartpm is supposed to be able to handle rpm and deb |
| 03:19.01 | Init-X | How can I optimizing my KDE because its running slowly on my box |
| 03:19.17 | Init-X | I use kde 3.5 |
| 03:19.37 | dpalacio | Jucato: Wikipedia says it is beta software. And it is failing right now. Will it not become an apt-get frontend again? |
| 03:20.07 | Jucato | dpalacio: kpackage wasn't exclusively an apt frontend only even in 3.5 (iirc) |
| 03:20.15 | dbglt | I think adept ? |
| 03:20.18 | dpalacio | Jucato: I know, but it was |
| 03:20.20 | Jucato | it could also do rpm/yum last I checked (two years ago) |
| 03:20.35 | dpalacio | dbglt: never liked it |
| 03:20.54 | dbglt | dpalacio: new version for kde4 being worked on, in alpha stage at the moment |
| 03:21.01 | dbglt | dpalacio: it is a bit better! |
| 03:23.47 | dpalacio | dbglt: debian has it in experimental section. I might try it. Thinking it a little more, «I do everything in the terminal, anyway» ;p |
| 03:24.23 | dbglt | dpalacio: yeah, I mostly do too, it's nice to have a GUI sometimes though |
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| 03:32.59 | dpalacio | downgraded it to it's kde3 version. Looks for wish at bugzilla. |
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| 03:47.30 | Hail_Spacecake | does kde bypass the x clipboard? |
| 03:49.01 | rohanpm | Hail_Spacecake: no |
| 03:49.11 | Hail_Spacecake | hmm, odd |
| 03:49.15 | Hail_Spacecake | I'm trying to use xclip |
| 03:49.29 | Hail_Spacecake | but it doesn't accept input or display output when I have something in the clipboard |
| 03:49.46 | rohanpm | X has multiple clipboards |
| 03:49.57 | rohanpm | that can confuse matters a bit |
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| 03:50.02 | Hail_Spacecake | it does? |
| 03:50.05 | Hail_Spacecake | I did not know that |
| 03:50.54 | rohanpm | yes, if you do `xclip -o -selection primary' and `xclip -o -selection clipboard' you may get different results |
| 03:51.50 | Hail_Spacecake | oh, huh |
| 03:51.58 | Hail_Spacecake | I need to learn more about how x works I guess |
| 03:52.01 | Hail_Spacecake | I had no idea |
| 03:55.28 | lilltiger | and marked text you can paste with middle mouse but not with ctrl+v :) |
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| 03:57.55 | Jucato | lilltiger: if you're using clipboard, you can. Configure Clipboard -> Synchronize selection |
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| 03:58.05 | Jucato | klipper I mean |
| 03:58.49 | pqlsztjoz | what is best linux distro that uses rpm |
| 03:59.20 | saikobee | debian |
| 03:59.53 | g2g591 | pqlsztjoz: thats very very debatable/flameably |
| 03:59.53 | Jucato | O.o |
| 04:00.36 | Jucato | pqlsztjoz: no distro discussion in here please. this is #kde, for KDE user support |
| 04:00.51 | hagabaka | i hate trying to resize column widths of list views to make them not show horizontal scrollbar |
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| 04:05.31 | saikobee | hagabaka: i know, i wish more programs would manage that for you |
| 04:07.35 | hagabaka | i think horizontal scrolling should be just eliminated for listviews, and when things don't fit, it should wrap to the next line, or when you hover on a cell it will expand to show the whole content |
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| 04:09.09 | Jucato | hagabaka: that behavior can actually set per program (source code). it wouldn't be good as the only behavior for all kinds of listviews across the all places where Qt is used :) |
| 04:09.57 | hagabaka | personally i've never liked horizontal scrolling |
| 04:10.42 | Jucato | keyword: "personally" |
| 04:10.55 | hagabaka | and it's just tedious to make a column the right size, because you can't see the overall widths with the presence of a scrollbar |
| 04:12.08 | Jucato | Qt is sometimes a bit like X: "mechanism, not policy". It just provides the mechanism for listviews and stuff. it's up to the app to make the policy for column sizes and stuff like that |
| 04:15.08 | hagabaka | yeah, but i think something like this should be done, just like pervasive "<X]" buttons in text boxes |
| 04:16.46 | Jucato | but surely "horizontal scrolling should be just eliminated for listviews" is not the only (nor the proper) answer. that would mean excluding people who arent hagabaka-like... |
| 04:17.11 | hagabaka | the current situation is excluding people who are me-like |
| 04:18.41 | Jucato | hagabaka: the problem isn't the existence of horizontal scrolling in listviews (which you want to eliminate). the problem is that apps don't set "smart" policies for column sizes. |
| 04:20.47 | hagabaka | smart policies aren't enough, people will want to resize the columns themselves |
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| 04:21.20 | hagabaka | but that is made very tedious when making one column a little wider will cause a horizontal scroll bar to appear |
| 04:21.39 | saikobee | hagabaka: what about the way the amarok columns work? |
| 04:21.47 | saikobee | isn't that what you want? |
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| 04:25.04 | hagabaka | yeah, it's what I want in that it never creates a horizontal scrollbar |
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| 04:25.34 | hagabaka | but I think that needs to go with more features to make truncated fields readable |
| 04:26.40 | hagabaka | and I think it makes little sense to let each individual program to set this policy, a user should be able to configure it for the whole desktop |
| 04:30.02 | saikobee | hagabaka: I disagree, I like the scrollbar in ktorrent, but hate it in Amarok. |
| 04:31.01 | hagabaka | so amarok and ktorrent developers happened to agree with your preferences, what about the other apps? |
| 04:32.21 | hagabaka | it could be done so that each instance of the widget can have its configuration and it will be restored next time (the app would need to identify the widget somehow), but I think that's too complex for most people |
| 04:36.58 | hagabaka | but if the widget itself implements this, it would save the apps from having similar code for the same purpose |
| 04:41.47 | saikobee | it could just be an option udner an advanced section in the program config maybe |
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| 05:00.56 | marcusU | Where can I get help using nspluginwrapper with Konqueror? |
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| 05:18.13 | benklop | marcusU: right now is a poor time to ask, most people who are really knowledgable are either on their way to, or at akademy 2008 right now... |
| 05:18.16 | benklop | marcusU: that being said, nspluginwrapper works for me, what problems are you having?> |
| 05:19.37 | marcusU | benklop: It does not work for me at all. Konqueror says that it detected the plugin, and about:plugins says so as well, but when I go to a site that has Flash, I get a big empty space. |
| 05:20.41 | benklop | does the flash plugin work in other browsers? |
| 05:21.12 | marcusU | Yes |
| 05:21.35 | marcusU | But the other browser is 32-bit, so it doesn't go through nspluginwrapper. |
| 05:22.31 | benklop | oh... that nspluginwrapper |
| 05:22.45 | marcusU | I've tried nspluginwrapper several times over its lifetime, and it has never worked. |
| 05:23.05 | benklop | really... i have tried it several times over its lifetime and it has always worked :) |
| 05:23.12 | marcusU | sighs |
| 05:23.41 | benklop | well as a first step |
| 05:23.47 | marcusU | I don't know how to debug the problem. It just doesn't work. There isn't any mechanism to see why. |
| 05:23.59 | benklop | konqueror's about:plugins page lists much more information than other browesrs |
| 05:24.10 | benklop | if theres an obvious error it might tell you |
| 05:24.29 | marcusU | Not in the about:plugins page. |
| 05:24.43 | benklop | it's not listed there? |
| 05:24.52 | marcusU | Oh, it's listed there. |
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| 05:25.03 | benklop | and you said konqueror's settings list the plugin |
| 05:25.19 | marcusU | Yeah. |
| 05:25.32 | benklop | it just says everything is fine in the about:plugins page then? |
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| 05:26.44 | marcusU | Yes |
| 05:27.30 | benklop | have you made sure you installed the plugin right? according to the nspluginwrapper web page there is a process to add plugins to IT, |
| 05:27.41 | benklop | and you also need to add it's viewer to the brower then |
| 05:27.48 | benklop | http://gwenole.beauchesne.info//en/projects/nspluginwrapper |
| 05:28.27 | marcusU | Yes. Did that. |
| 05:28.42 | marcusU | Actually, RPM will automatically scan for them when you install the RPM. |
| 05:29.05 | benklop | yeah, just saw that.. |
| 05:29.13 | benklop | but only if they are installed system wide |
| 05:29.19 | benklop | if i understand right |
| 05:29.29 | marcusU | I installed them systemwise. |
| 05:29.37 | benklop | i always did it the opposite way.. installed it, then installed flash |
| 05:29.56 | marcusU | Shockwave Flash Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124 npwrapper.libflashplayer.so |
| 05:29.56 | marcusU | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.56 | marcusU | application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player |
| 05:30.25 | marcusU | Konqueror says it's installed. The mimetype is listed in the next segment, which I'll spare you. |
| 05:30.29 | benklop | have you also got some other plugin like gnash installed that could be taking precidence? |
| 05:30.42 | marcusU | No, I don't have any other plugins except Java. |
| 05:31.06 | benklop | ok.. i assume you've tried more than just one flash site |
| 05:31.07 | marcusU | Also, I see that npviewer.bin is running. |
| 05:31.41 | marcusU | Yes. |
| 05:32.10 | marcusU | One of which is Adobe's site for checking if you have flash. |
| 05:32.31 | benklop | have you got some exotic sound thing going on? i've had difficulties with flash sometimes related to audio |
| 05:33.30 | benklop | have you tried any other plugins in the wrapper? |
| 05:33.48 | marcusU | I don't think so. Also, I have verified that these sites work the flash when called from 32-bit Firefox. |
| 05:33.59 | marcusU | I don't have any other plugins. I'm not sure wha there is. |
| 05:34.42 | benklop | well you could download some other plugin like maybe acrobat reader or something,just to see if it works |
| 05:35.01 | benklop | or realplayer |
| 05:35.10 | benklop | just install them for your user |
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| 05:35.19 | benklop | just as a test |
| 05:37.17 | marcusU | Adobe Reader is huge. Ugh. |
| 05:38.35 | benklop | oh, it appears there is a nspluginplayer that can be used for trying out plugins standalone |
| 05:39.54 | benklop | http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper/help has more inffo on usage |
| 05:40.20 | benklop | but then you can determine if the problem is with konqueror or with nspluginwrapper |
| 05:40.50 | marcusU | benklop: nspluginplayer is part of a newer release than what I have. |
| 05:42.13 | benklop | oh, darn |
| 05:42.34 | marcusU | And his site makes it hard to find downloads. |
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| 05:44.33 | KurtKraut | My native KDE 4.1 3D effects look much much slower than compiz. I've generated my xorg.conf using 'aticonfig --initial'. Am I missing something ? |
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| 05:44.49 | marcusU | The version that includes the nspluginplayer is labeled 1.1.0 but is really a development snapshot and is only available in source code. |
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| 05:47.25 | benklop | marcusU: i'd like to continue trying to help, but it's time for me to go to bed. if you mention this some time tomorrow, some ppl will probably be on from akademy |
| 05:47.36 | marcusU | benklop: Thanks. |
| 05:47.43 | benklop | wish i could help more |
| 05:48.07 | marcusU | I'm just cursed with regard to nspluginviewer. |
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| 05:48.53 | marcusU | benklop: With nspluginviewer, there is a little light rectangle in the upper corner of the dark rectangle. Before, it was just one huge rectangle. |
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| 06:20.47 | JeremyBicha | I can't seem to use arrow keys, page up or down, with GTK programs on KDE4.1 (Ubuntu Intrepid), specifically I've noticed the bug in Firefox, Pidgin, and gnome-terminal |
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| 06:29.11 | lemon | has anyone tried "RedFlag" ,quite a good one with kde4.1 |
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| 06:47.50 | tehsmo | hmm, anyone know if there's a way to make k3b make an iso from an audio image? |
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| 06:47.54 | tehsmo | it seems to just rip the wav files |
| 06:48.07 | tehsmo | I googled and found a lot of people with the same problem, but no solution |
| 06:48.20 | thiago_home | an ISO from an audio image? |
| 06:48.22 | thiago_home | what do you mean? |
| 06:48.25 | tehsmo | I have an audio cd |
| 06:48.28 | thiago_home | ok |
| 06:48.29 | tehsmo | I want to burn 30 copies of it |
| 06:48.37 | thiago_home | use dd to create the iso |
| 06:48.39 | tehsmo | I have 30 machines available |
| 06:48.44 | tehsmo | I tried that, doesn't work |
| 06:48.56 | thiago_home | use another low-level tool |
| 06:48.56 | tehsmo | I'm not sure why, I think it's fedora's problem |
| 06:48.59 | thiago_home | cdrdao |
| 06:49.05 | tehsmo | dd, rawread, etc all seem to fail |
| 06:49.08 | tehsmo | haven't tried cdrdao |
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| 06:52.29 | tehsmo | argh |
| 06:52.34 | tehsmo | cdrdao scanbus returns no results |
| 06:52.48 | tehsmo | I think this is a problem with the fedora installation in these labs |
| 06:52.53 | tehsmo | or maybe some weird permissions thing |
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| 06:54.20 | tehsmo | since I also can't right click on the disc on the desktop in nautilus (or the kde equiv) and copy it using that dialog |
| 06:54.38 | tehsmo | it just makes a messed up iso |
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| 06:55.35 | tehsmo | thankfully I know the admin here, so I get to chew him out in the morning |
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| 06:59.12 | tehsmo | huh, so the right-click dialog makes both a .iso file and a .toc file |
| 06:59.19 | tehsmo | so maybe the .iso is just a mislabeled .bin |
| 06:59.22 | tehsmo | or whatever |
| 06:59.26 | thiago_home | both? |
| 06:59.41 | thiago_home | yeah, maybe it is |
| 06:59.44 | thiago_home | what's the size? |
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| 06:59.51 | thiago_home | 650/700? Or larger? |
| 07:00.18 | tehsmo | the size is correct |
| 07:00.20 | tehsmo | 170MB |
| 07:00.28 | tehsmo | (it's only a 7-track EP) |
| 07:00.33 | thiago_home | oh |
| 07:00.48 | thiago_home | anyways, for an audiocd, there's no ISO |
| 07:00.57 | thiago_home | ISO 9660 is the format of the filesystem |
| 07:01.02 | thiago_home | there are no files in an audiocd |
| 07:01.03 | tehsmo | ah |
| 07:01.11 | tehsmo | so image is the more correct term then |
| 07:01.29 | thiago_home | yes |
| 07:01.44 | thiago_home | that's why it looks like to be the .bin under a different name |
| 07:02.18 | tehsmo | so now I just need to get either cdrecord or k3b to burn a .bin/.toc |
| 07:03.10 | tehsmo | wonders if .toc is equivalent to .cue |
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| 07:04.06 | GNU\colossus | tehsmo: yes, it is |
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| 07:04.24 | GNU\colossus | you can easily convert between the two, actually |
| 07:04.32 | GNU\colossus | cdrdao uses .toc files |
| 07:04.52 | tehsmo | ok |
| 07:05.38 | tehsmo | hmm,maybe I can finangle cdrdao to work |
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| 07:28.30 | Ayabara | Should strigi work in kde4? I get "protocol strigi not supported" in Konqueror. |
| 07:30.23 | friedrich| | there is no such kioslaves installed on your system I'd guess. |
| 07:30.32 | friedrich| | and no, it doesn't really work properly. |
| 07:30.45 | friedrich| | you can give nepomuk-kde in playground/base a try though |
| 07:30.54 | friedrich| | that has a nepomuksearch:/ kioslave |
| 07:32.21 | Ayabara | friedrich|: ok. |
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| 07:42.34 | crovv | anyone know how to fix this? "call to lnusertemp failed " can't login to kde4.1 as user |
| 07:42.47 | sandsmark | crovv: which distro? |
| 07:42.52 | crovv | debian |
| 07:42.58 | sandsmark | oh |
| 07:43.07 | sandsmark | check if you have a working /tmp |
| 07:43.13 | sandsmark | (check permissions, etc.) |
| 07:43.42 | crovv | working as in existing? permissions? well I did, they all seem to match |
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| 07:44.00 | sandsmark | what does "ls -l /tmp" say? |
| 07:44.12 | sandsmark | and "df -h /tmp"? |
| 07:45.55 | crovv | sands: it's not a space thing, for sure. |
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| 07:47.38 | crovv | sands: I'm missing ksocket-<user> |
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| 07:47.59 | sandsmark | crovv: you can press "tab" after typing the first part of my name |
| 07:48.05 | sandsmark | I don't highlight on sands |
| 07:48.21 | sandsmark | crovv: ksocket-$USERNAME should be created for you |
| 07:48.25 | crovv | sandsmark: sure, sorry |
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| 07:49.03 | crovv | sandsmark: yes, this is what I've been thinking, too |
| 07:49.24 | sandsmark | but what does ls -l /tmp return? |
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| 07:50.48 | crovv | sandsmark: I think I'll do a fresh install and see if I can get that straight. I've seen this before, this is about the 10th kde4.1 install |
| 07:50.58 | sandsmark | hmm |
| 07:52.01 | crovv | sandsmark: I think it's a sequence of packages thing. one thing I haven't said that the whole install is on reiser4. |
| 07:52.50 | sandsmark | well, it shouldn't matter |
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| 08:13.40 | Stalafin | weird kopete question: |
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| 08:14.07 | Stalafin | I have grouped 2 contacts by giving them the same name; now I wanna ungroup them, but I just can't find how.... Any ideas? |
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| 08:22.43 | Mescalito^ | Stalafin: did you try dragging the icon to a group name? |
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| 08:24.25 | sani4 | ÏÄÍÉÎÙ ÅÓÔØ? |
| 08:24.36 | sani4 | ËÒÕÔÙÅ ÏÄÍÉÎÙ × ÓÍÙÓÌÅ! |
| 08:24.54 | Stalafin | Mescalito^: yeah, I did try that; just did it again... doesn't work |
| 08:25.03 | Stalafin | Mescalito^: gives me that 'forbidden' symbol |
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| 08:25.50 | Stalafin | Mescalito^: or do you have an idea how kopete handles this internally? i gonna have a look at the config file.. |
| 08:26.08 | Mescalito^ | what version of kopete? |
| 08:26.13 | Stalafin | second |
| 08:26.27 | Stalafin | 0.50.80 |
| 08:26.33 | Stalafin | kde4.1.1 that is |
| 08:26.35 | Stalafin | :D |
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| 08:26.49 | Mescalito^ | yeah i can't seem to do it either |
| 08:26.51 | Mescalito^ | maybe they forgot |
| 08:27.04 | Stalafin | you think it was possible in kopete3 |
| 08:27.06 | Stalafin | ? |
| 08:27.10 | Mescalito^ | maybe not :P |
| 08:27.15 | Stalafin | ^^ |
| 08:27.21 | Mescalito^ | what you could do is add someone to your list you don't care |
| 08:27.23 | Mescalito^ | a random made up address |
| 08:27.28 | Mescalito^ | then select "show offline contacts!" |
| 08:27.32 | Mescalito^ | then drag the icon into that contact |
| 08:27.36 | Mescalito^ | and delete the one you don't care about |
| 08:27.42 | Stalafin | interesting... |
| 08:27.45 | Stalafin | lets see what happens :D |
| 08:27.54 | Mescalito^ | pretty weird way of getting around it but in theory it should work |
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| 08:29.50 | Stalafin | Mescalito^: yeah, it actually did work xD |
| 08:30.08 | Mescalito^ | haha |
| 08:30.12 | Stalafin | anyways... i guess there is no way to have 2 ppl with the same name, even if they are not in the same groups? |
| 08:30.27 | Stalafin | that really sucks donkeyballs ... |
| 08:30.31 | Mescalito^ | isn't there? |
| 08:30.33 | Mescalito^ | can't you alias them? |
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| 08:30.51 | Stalafin | alias? |
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| 08:31.12 | blauzahl | btw, there is also a #kopete, but they also all might be at akademy right now :D |
| 08:31.39 | blauzahl | and if you can figure out how to use the contact section, i am impressed. |
| 08:31.43 | Stalafin | yeah, i know; nobody is answering me |
| 08:31.53 | Stalafin | contact section? |
| 08:31.55 | blauzahl | now you know why ;) |
| 08:32.03 | blauzahl | whatever you call that one widget window |
| 08:32.20 | blauzahl | give them another few hours. |
| 08:32.24 | Stalafin | ah, i see |
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| 08:32.31 | blauzahl | i bet they're all on come monday. :D (eV meeting :) |
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| 08:34.56 | Stalafin | Mescalito^: #kopete just answered... the trick is to create a new meta contact |
| 08:35.19 | Mescalito^ | yeah i tried to do that |
| 08:35.22 | Mescalito^ | but couldn't work out how |
| 08:35.38 | Mescalito^ | it seems more intuitive to drag the icon to the group name |
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| 08:36.06 | Mescalito^ | hey.. |
| 08:36.18 | Stalafin | yeah, yet it doesnt work, so... meh |
| 08:36.22 | Mescalito^ | if you right click on the icon, and choose "change metacontact" |
| 08:36.28 | Mescalito^ | then you can select "use new metacontact" |
| 08:36.56 | Mescalito^ | that seemed to delete the guy from my list |
| 08:36.57 | Stalafin | ah, and the people in #kopete made fun of my questions ^^ now i am sad :( |
| 08:37.13 | Stalafin | it deleted the guy? well, that's a bit harsh.. |
| 08:37.48 | Mescalito^ | i know! |
| 08:38.03 | sandsmark | gives Stalafin a cookie |
| 08:38.15 | Mescalito^ | it put him into the group "not in myh contact list" |
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| 08:39.30 | Stalafin | breaks the cookie in half and gives one chunk to sandsmark. :D |
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| 08:40.20 | sandsmark | =D |
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| 08:42.12 | Mescalito^ | where's my cookie |
| 08:42.32 | Stalafin | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/15/you-eated-my-cookie/ |
| 08:42.38 | Stalafin | :) |
| 08:43.06 | sandsmark | but you gave it to me! =) |
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| 08:44.21 | miwi | moin |
| 08:44.26 | sandsmark | mion |
| 08:45.10 | Stalafin | moin moin |
| 08:45.17 | Stalafin | we aint in germany, are we? |
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| 08:51.41 | Mescalito^ | oh no |
| 08:51.44 | Mescalito^ | not in germany in 1945 |
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| 08:53.01 | Mescalito^ | are we in NAZI GERMNAY? |
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| 08:56.55 | Stalafin | Mescalito^: eh... forget it ^^ |
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| 08:58.14 | lolipop | Hi, i'm using kubuntu 8.04 kde 4, when i try to watch movie by using any player, the screen will keep flashing..... any idea? |
| 08:58.30 | Mescalito^ | lolipop: maybe you're blinking really fast |
| 08:58.35 | Mescalito^ | did you check? |
| 08:58.39 | Mescalito^ | is it pr0n? |
| 08:58.41 | lolipop | how to check |
| 08:58.49 | lolipop | haha |
| 08:58.52 | lolipop | not |
| 08:59.03 | Mescalito^ | you cahn check my stapling your eyes open |
| 08:59.13 | Mescalito^ | if it goes away then the problem is that you're blinking |
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| 09:16.45 | nathanbw | I downloaded the KDE-Four-LiveCD, and it's pretty cool. How do I maximize the desktop folderview? Also, how do I move the desktop folderview? Sometimes I can move it by the "titlebar area," but sometimes I can't. |
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| 09:19.38 | PerfDave | I'm using KDE 3.5.9 on Debian Lenny; is there any way to have the panel's hide status be desktop-dependent? I want it visible on desktop 1, but hidden on desktop 2 |
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| 09:25.17 | kucrut | PerfDave: i dont think you can do that |
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| 09:29.42 | PerfDave | kucrut: Yeah, doesn't look like it :( |
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| 09:31.04 | CyBaH | hi all o/ |
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| 09:52.42 | pampils | please help me. when i try to login to kd4.1 session it loads and then just a black screen, never had issues ilke this until this morning, gnoem and kde3 works just fine but now 4.1 |
| 09:53.31 | pampils | not* |
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| 10:26.33 | geierAL | Hi |
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| 10:27.31 | geierAL | i m lookin for a kde/qt time tracker application and all i can find is KTimeclock, which wasnt ported to kde3 nor kde4.. do u kno alternatives? |
| 10:27.54 | sandsmark | karm? |
| 10:28.21 | sandsmark | KTimeTracker is it called in KDE4 |
| 10:28.26 | pinotree | karm (kde3), ktimetracker (kde4) |
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| 10:29.47 | geierAL | perfect ktimetracker is what i need |
| 10:30.02 | geierAL | ty |
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| 10:31.39 | ISp`2k4|Vogel | hello, how can i take screenshots in kde4? =) |
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| 10:31.54 | pinotree | install ksnapshot, exactly like in kde3? |
| 10:32.12 | geierAL | knapshot is awesome |
| 10:32.13 | ISp`2k4|Vogel | cant find it :/ |
| 10:33.02 | Danmer | how can i run amarok 1.4 under kde 4.1? it says "servicetype Amarok/Plugin not found" and "Amarok could not find any sound-engine plugins" |
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| 10:33.50 | pinotree | Danmer: run kbuildsycoca |
| 10:34.17 | Danmer | pinotree: no effect |
| 10:34.22 | sandsmark | ISp`2k4|Vogel: which distro? |
| 10:34.29 | ISp`2k4|Vogel | Fedora 9 |
| 10:34.29 | sandsmark | Danmer: kbuildsycoca4? |
| 10:34.39 | pinotree | ISp`2k4|Vogel: then #fedora |
| 10:34.46 | Danmer | sandsmark: no, just kbuildsycoca |
| 10:34.52 | ISp`2k4|Vogel | kk |
| 10:35.13 | pinotree | sandsmark: kbuildsycoca4 won't have effect on kde3 stuff... |
| 10:35.24 | sandsmark | ah, yes =) |
| 10:35.24 | Danmer | pinotree: amarok itself launches kbuildsycoca again and it says "servicetype Amarok/Plugin not found" |
| 10:35.42 | pinotree | try as kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
| 10:35.47 | sandsmark | Danmer: some distros package the xine engine by itself |
| 10:36.02 | sandsmark | Danmer: have you tried to search your package manager for other amarok related packages? |
| 10:36.19 | Danmer | sandsmark: i use gentoo, and amarok works right under kde 3.5 |
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| 10:36.41 | Danmer | and k3b, krename for kde3 works under 4.1 |
| 10:36.41 | sandsmark | ok |
| 10:36.56 | pinotree | a reason more to check whether you installed everything amarok-related... |
| 10:37.13 | Danmer | just emerge amarok :) |
| 10:37.27 | Danmer | may be I don't have some environment variables? |
| 10:37.35 | pinotree | or some USE flag? |
| 10:38.25 | Danmer | no, amarok works right under 3.5, icewm, etc..i think USE flags are correct |
| 10:38.44 | pinotree | you don't need to think, you need to check |
| 10:39.47 | Danmer | x_x |
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| 10:40.08 | Psychonaut | I just upgraded to KDE 4.1. How do I change the window titlebar colour scheme? |
| 10:41.22 | Danmer | I wonder how it works under opensuse.. |
| 10:42.57 | cb400f | Psychonaut: you can't with the oxygen windeco.. need to switch to ozone or something else |
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| 10:46.57 | Psychonaut | cb400f: Well, that sucks... the distinction between active and inactive windows in Oxygen is practically nonexistent. |
| 10:47.25 | sandsmark | Psychonaut: that's why the Ozone windeco is default |
| 10:48.17 | Psychonaut | sandsmark: I wonder how I got it on Oxygen then. Was that the default for KDE 4.0? |
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| 10:48.27 | sandsmark | probably |
| 10:48.34 | sandsmark | I don't remember when Ozone came =) |
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| 10:50.09 | Danmer | and category icons in menu are displayed like "unknown" |
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| 11:49.28 | secludedsage | Excuse me, I compiled my own QT 4 and found Sans Serif was forced to be replaced by Helvetica. What should I do? Thanks! |
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| 11:50.37 | kriko | secludedsage: qtconfig? |
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| 11:52.16 | kriko | when using "Apply inactive window color effect", switching windows tends to be slower - is this normal or just nvidia feature? |
| 11:52.56 | secludedsage | kriko: Yes. In qtconfig, the rules could not be edit. |
| 11:53.47 | kriko | secludedsage: that is strange, don't know what it could be - I thought qtconfig you could choose the font you would like to have |
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| 11:54.32 | secludedsage | kriko: Yes, it seems as if I changed the rules of replacing sans-serif. But after I restart my qtconfig, It came back to the original rules. |
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| 12:13.18 | agnitio | I must say that you developers have made Kde4 a nice experience both with composition and without, cudos! |
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| 12:31.31 | nacer | hi |
| 12:32.01 | nacer | i am testing kde4 from the release where can i post mi critic ? |
| 12:32.06 | nacer | my |
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| 12:35.02 | nacer | someone from the kdepim team specialy for kmail here ? |
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| 12:35.56 | zcat | Anyone happen to know the KDE4 dbus method for setting the background wallpaper? the equivalent of the old (and EASY) dcop method - e.g.: dcop --user $(whoami) --all-sessions kdesktop KBackgroundIface setWallpaper "$image_absfile" 6 |
| 12:36.05 | sandsmark | nacer: if you have any bugs, go to bugs.kde.org, and search if they are reported already, if not, report them |
| 12:36.08 | zcat | qdbusviewer didn't shed much light on this, nor did google |
| 12:36.09 | sandsmark | *find |
| 12:36.19 | nacer | sandsmark: yeah its what i am doing :) |
| 12:36.24 | sandsmark | good =) |
| 12:37.36 | zcat | gnome's method is simple as well: gconftool-2 -t str --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "$image_absfile" |
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| 12:38.13 | nacer | lol zcat he didn't ask for gnome :) |
| 12:38.35 | zcat | nacer, eh? |
| 12:38.53 | nacer | nothink |
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| 12:39.06 | sandsmark | thinking is overrated nowaday =p |
| 12:39.07 | sandsmark | *s |
| 12:39.22 | zcat | nacer, "he" is me |
| 12:39.31 | zcat | nacer, was providing another simple example |
| 12:39.39 | nacer | lol i need to clean my glass |
| 12:39.47 | nacer | oups i don't have any glass :) |
| 12:39.53 | alibaba | Hello, is somebody here who can help me finding an easy solution for a shared addressbook and time-plan? |
| 12:40.27 | alibaba | Where does kmail and korganizer store its data? |
| 12:41.01 | cb400f | ~/.kde4/share/apps/ |
| 12:42.04 | cb400f | or ~/.kde/.. for kde3 |
| 12:42.04 | alibaba | Is there a difference between kde 3.5 and 4? |
| 12:42.04 | sandsmark | hhmm, konqueror freezes before sending a large file via post |
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| 12:43.40 | alibaba | cb400f: Problem. I stored two addresses in kaddressbook, (kde 3.5), but ~/.kde/share/apps/kaddressbook has no files? |
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| 12:45.06 | sandsmark | heh, kio_http took 1GB of ram before I killed it =/ |
| 12:45.21 | cb400f | alibaba: ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/ |
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| 12:46.48 | alibaba | well, here are several .vcf files and directories for lock, logos, photos, sounds. |
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| 12:47.27 | alibaba | Ah, I see. It is the std.vcf file. |
| 12:48.18 | alibaba | Is it possible to put this file on a central server and share it from several clients? |
| 12:49.20 | cb400f | on lan? |
| 12:49.53 | cb400f | or do they need wan too? |
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| 12:50.15 | cb400f | on lan maybe you could do something with nfs or samba and some symlinks |
| 12:50.21 | alibaba | Only on LAN. Let me explain what I am searching for: |
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| 12:51.34 | alibaba | They have currently some WindowsXP machines which shall be replaced by Linux within next time, but not in one task. They currently use outlook. All addresses shall be brought together and be used then from all clients. |
| 12:52.28 | alibaba | The same address base shall be used for writing invoices. Here they currently use Excel, later it will be openoffice. |
| 12:52.31 | cb400f | you know kontact will soon be available on win and mac? |
| 12:53.02 | alibaba | Need something for now, later it will be only Linux, I hope. |
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| 12:53.31 | pinchartl | alibaba: what about an ldap directory ? |
| 12:53.38 | cb400f | I don't know these things.. but I'd guess Outlook and the other MS stuff sets the limitations |
| 12:53.52 | cb400f | do they use MS Exchange? |
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| 12:54.31 | alibaba | Meanwhile I seriously think about a SQL database and using a macro for Excel and openoffice, and repeatedly rewriting the kmail addressbook (exporting a new one from the SQL database). |
| 12:54.48 | alibaba | No, thanks to heaven, the servers are all Linux. |
| 12:54.57 | alibaba | So there's no Exchange. |
| 12:55.30 | zcat | (amazing... google still can't answer the seemingly simple question of changing the kde4 wallpaper from the commandline) |
| 12:55.36 | alibaba | Does ldap force me to something? |
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| 12:56.23 | pinchartl | alibaba: LDAP is a directory access protocol. you can store contacts in an LDAP-aware database (such as OpenLDAP) and configure your mails clients to access the LDAP directory |
| 12:56.24 | alibaba | All systems are configured without ldap at this time! |
| 12:56.31 | cb400f | getting off topic here.. maybe you should try the openSUSE mailing list.. I guess that would be a good place to find some sysadmin gurus |
| 12:57.23 | alibaba | The are not very helpful. :-/ I even got more ideas here in this few minutes. |
| 12:58.06 | cb400f | pinchartl: and will MS Outlook cooperate with ldap? |
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| 12:58.41 | god_ | hi there! i got a problem with kontact in kde 4.1. hopefully one of you guys can help me out: http://rafb.net/p/t6p3XL11.html |
| 12:58.47 | Fri13 | Does someone use kmail with Gmail account and can send mails trought SMTP? |
| 12:58.53 | alibaba | I read several reports that outlook and kmail (etc) have different understanding of what they expect to find... |
| 12:58.53 | god_ | i really hope someone could help me with this! |
| 12:59.05 | pinchartl | alibaba: up to a certain extend, yes. it doesn't support all possible vcard fields |
| 12:59.32 | cb400f | Fri13: I do.. but I don't use gmail smtp |
| 12:59.55 | alibaba | Can kmail be configured to do SQL queries? |
| 13:00.07 | Fri13 | cb400f: Then no help from you ;-) |
| 13:00.12 | alibaba | Then it could query an SQL server directly? |
| 13:00.19 | Fri13 | cb400f: I just get errors even all settings are correctly |
| 13:00.54 | cb400f | Fri13: many ISPs force you to use their smtp.. at least on the default port |
| 13:01.31 | Fri13 | cb400f: It worked on 4.0.x but now with 4.1.0 it does not work |
| 13:01.33 | edogawa | hi, i have a problem with okular, it thinks that my hp all-in-one is no real printer, but a pdf file driver? |
| 13:01.50 | alibaba | Fri13: Have you ever tried to talk to the smtp server through a telnet session (to port smtp)? |
| 13:02.05 | Fri13 | alibaba: Nope |
| 13:02.28 | alibaba | Why? This must work, otherwise you will also have problems with any other program! |
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| 13:02.51 | alibaba | Your mail-program also does nothing different! |
| 13:03.32 | Fri13 | alibaba: telnet works fine |
| 13:03.45 | edogawa | i've seen a similar thing in konqueror, but there i can switch to another driver (pdf or ps file) and back, then it works - okular offers just the printer but with wrong capabilities |
| 13:03.53 | Fri13 | alibaba: And thunderbird works too... but I want to use kmail |
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| 13:04.23 | alibaba | Funny. I'd look on the authentification settings. maybe you stuck there. |
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| 13:05.19 | Fri13 | alibaba: All have checked many times... even tried all the different SSL/TLS combinations even they would be incorrect. Worked on 4.0.x but not on 4.1.x |
| 13:05.49 | alibaba | What error do you get shown? |
| 13:06.52 | alibaba | Appears to be a bug then... |
| 13:07.03 | alibaba | Must leave. Thanks for your ideas. |
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| 13:17.23 | shyam_k | hi i am trying to get kde 4.1 in my gnewsense(ubuntu based) i have a directory of compiled kde4 with base directories such as bin,share,etc,include and lib.. can i get some links to know how to proceed installing it? |
| 13:18.55 | shyam_k | also i have another directory as qt4 with bin,doc,include,lib,mkspecs,phrasebooks,plugins translations.. but i just dont have any idea how to proceed to install this!! |
| 13:19.45 | shyam_k | i heard its something like editing /opt or so.. |
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| 13:54.41 | Kanniball | hi! |
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| 13:56.27 | Kanniball | is it possible to remove one aplication from the list of available aplications? I do not want to remove it, I just want to not use it in KDE. (I'm talking about gecko-media player, wich I only want as a firefox plugin, for the rest I have dragon player) |
| 13:58.07 | mattenklicker | i need a global preconfiguration of kmail, preconfigured imap/smtp/username for new users, is this possible? |
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| 13:59.43 | Kanniball | mattenklicker: I think you need to create the needed files and put them in /etc/skel/ |
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| 14:10.02 | brun0_ | hey |
| 14:10.31 | brun0_ | do you know on which channel I can have information about bluetooth ? |
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| 14:14.05 | makkone- | brun0_: depends what of information you want |
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| 14:18.58 | brun0_ | makkone-: well with kde3 i had the sdp:// protocol to transfer files from my phone to my computer and i'm unable to set it up with kde4 |
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| 14:29.53 | Sho_ | hugs pinotree |
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| 14:35.07 | nikolavp | hmm |
| 14:35.21 | nikolavp | i am wondering why okular cannot open chm files |
| 14:35.40 | nikolavp | is that feature not supported yet :? |
| 14:35.47 | nikolavp | i am using Debian testing with 4.1 |
| 14:35.58 | milliams | http://okular.kde.org/formats.php |
| 14:36.14 | milliams | I guess you need chmlib |
| 14:36.56 | gkiagia | nikolavp: apt-get install okular-extra-backends |
| 14:37.04 | nikolavp | ok |
| 14:37.39 | nikolavp | maybe it was in the recommended dependencies but i didn't see it :( |
| 14:38.25 | nikolavp | oh yeah i got a crash :D |
| 14:38.32 | nikolavp | maybe i will use kchmviewer for now... |
| 14:38.40 | gkiagia | nice :P |
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| 14:46.36 | blaze | is irkick a part of kde utils? |
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| 14:51.11 | tampakrap | blaze: yes |
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| 14:51.41 | blaze | is it available for kde4? |
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| 14:59.13 | CydeWeys | One minor quibble with KDE 4.1 -- why is the default theme so dark? |
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| 15:06.36 | kde_pepo | CydeWeys, you could install bright themes |
| 15:06.58 | CydeWeys | kde_pepo: Yep, I'm just wondering why that decision was made to go dark. |
| 15:07.05 | CydeWeys | Think it has anything to do with Vista doing the same thing? |
| 15:07.10 | kde_pepo | CydeWeys, maybe |
| 15:07.18 | kde_pepo | CydeWeys, I don't like it either. |
| 15:07.33 | kde_pepo | but I can change it, so I do not care ;) |
| 15:07.36 | CydeWeys | kde_pepo: And in the default theme the window decorations are light gray, right? |
| 15:07.46 | CydeWeys | It initially seemed very discordant. |
| 15:08.15 | CydeWeys | Although the desktop plasmoids are really nice. I can't believe nobody's ever done this before. |
| 15:08.19 | kde_pepo | CydeWeys, yeah, but making everything dark isn't the answer either... |
| 15:08.58 | kde_pepo | I use Aya theme, this one adapts to color settings. |
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| 15:09.03 | CydeWeys | I just wish I could make a plasmoid display a Detail or List view or something. |
| 15:09.16 | CydeWeys | The icon view cuts off all but the first few characters of the file name and then displays a gigantic icon often of questionable use :-/ |
| 15:09.48 | kde_pepo | good idea, did you look at bugs.kde.org if there is already a wish entry? you can add one. |
| 15:09.53 | CydeWeys | Maybe I can make the font size smaller? The filenames in the plasmoids do seem unnecessarily large. |
| 15:10.02 | CydeWeys | Cool, I'll check that out. |
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| 15:10.36 | kde_pepo | Plasma is a very young project, configuration is limited, but future versions will certainly add more customization. |
| 15:10.37 | CydeWeys | Is there a way to customize plasmoids at all? |
| 15:10.46 | CydeWeys | Yeah, that's what I figured, it's young. |
| 15:10.53 | CydeWeys | I have no doubt it'll get better. |
| 15:11.21 | kde_pepo | Some plasmoids have a right click menu (on panel) or a config icon (on desktop) |
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| 15:18.42 | Vonor | hi |
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| 16:42.20 | dvoid_ | im trying to setup a 3G internet connection trough kppp |
| 16:42.26 | dvoid_ | it reqires 3 custom init strings, but in kppp there is only 2 avaiable :D what to do |
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| 17:05.01 | sigma | any kde4 ftp clients out? (besides dolphin) |
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| 17:16.17 | klebezettel | hello |
| 17:16.54 | klebezettel | maybe here are some artists...what I would like to see is a new, fresh (g)vim logo :D ...the official one is really ugly :/ |
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| 17:25.26 | Merritt | suse 10.3, kde 4.1 - the bottom and right side of my desktop have been squished up, leaving a grey and white checkerboard: http://picpaste.com/pics/missing.1218214673.png - the plasma widget does not give me the option to zoom in, only out. Has anyone seen this before? |
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| 17:27.24 | SSJ_GZ | Merritt: Are you using two monitors at all? |
| 17:28.07 | Merritt | SSJ_GZ: No, this is on my laptop |
| 17:28.46 | SSJ_GZ | Merritt: Ah, OK - I've seen similar things with bugs in drivers dealing with dual-head, but that's obviously not the case here. |
| 17:29.36 | Merritt | SSJ_GZ: Oddly enough this same problem happened to me last night on my desktop computer, after changing it's monitor to a bigger one. |
| 17:29.56 | SSJ_GZ | Merritt: If you log in and out, does it fix itself? |
| 17:30.28 | Merritt | SSJ_GZ: I'll have to log out and see. :) brb |
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| 17:32.38 | Merritt | SSJ_GZ: Okay, I feel silly now. It's back to normal. I didn't try it though because on my desktop that did _not_ fix the problem. :) Thank you! |
| 17:33.51 | SSJ_GZ | Merritt: Cool! |
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| 17:38.22 | zhobbs_ | in kde 4.1 can you change it so that a right click on your desktop shows your programs list? |
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| 17:40.35 | gkiagia | zhobbs_: I don't think so |
| 17:41.39 | zhobbs_ | gkiagia: damn...I keep holding off for that |
| 17:42.04 | zhobbs_ | that and the ability to customize that bar on the bottom (make smaller, autohide, etc) |
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| 17:43.16 | gkiagia | zhobbs_: it is possible to make the panel smaller |
| 17:43.27 | gkiagia | for the others, I guess you could do some feature requests |
| 17:43.27 | parudus | i think pardus is the best distro |
| 17:44.03 | gkiagia | parudus: that's out of topic |
| 17:44.05 | zhobbs_ | gkiagia: yeah, I added a feature request... |
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| 17:44.26 | zhobbs_ | gkiagia: might just have to dig into it and see what it'd take to do |
| 17:44.37 | gkiagia | panel autohide will possibly be implemented if it's not already there with some hidden option, I guess... |
| 17:44.55 | SSJ_GZ | Panel auto-hide is definitely planned. |
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| 17:45.31 | SSJ_GZ | I'm fairly sure I heard that the right-click menu will be customisable, too, but I'm not sure how - possibly using scripts, maybe ... ? |
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| 17:54.25 | Schijnn | Where do I set the audio device that Konqueror uses? |
| 17:54.26 | fib1908 | vlt mai I pm ? |
| 17:54.35 | fib1908 | *may |
| 17:55.42 | fib1908 | ziggy may I pm ? |
| 17:55.51 | fib1908 | hey hi |
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| 17:59.54 | fib1908 | hey hi can anyone help me out with a bug ? PLease..? |
| 18:01.09 | gkiagia | fib1908: ask the question and someone will answer |
| 18:01.21 | tuxick | fib1908: i've got loads of bugs, how many do you want? |
| 18:01.39 | fib1908 | :) Thanks for replying |
| 18:02.00 | fib1908 | I have a prob which says "kwin" crashed |
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| 18:02.07 | gkiagia | give me a kilo :P |
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| 18:02.16 | fib1908 | :P |
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| 18:03.04 | gkiagia | fib1908: so? how did it crash. is it ok now? can you move windows? |
| 18:03.12 | fib1908 | yeah |
| 18:03.18 | tuxick | gkiagia: for those quantities you'd have to settle for gtk bugs, those ok? |
| 18:03.25 | gkiagia | lol |
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| 18:04.01 | fib1908 | gkiagia: I keep getting that prob very often |
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| 18:04.44 | fib1908 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.21 | gkiagia | fib1908: so it happens at random moments? |
| 18:05.39 | gkiagia | what video card do you have? |
| 18:05.47 | gkiagia | are you using composite effects? |
| 18:06.22 | fib1908 | I'm using an NVDIA card (restricted drivers) gkiagia |
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| 18:06.44 | fib1908 | gkiagia: do u mean compiz ? |
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| 18:07.26 | gkiagia | fib1908: no I mean 3d desktop effects that kde does |
| 18:07.28 | gkiagia | oh wait |
| 18:07.36 | gkiagia | are you using kde3 or kde4 ? |
| 18:07.51 | fib1908 | kde4 gkiagia |
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| 18:08.58 | gkiagia | fib1908: what version exactly? 4.1 ? |
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| 18:09.14 | fib1908 | 4.0 which they say,is unstable |
| 18:09.27 | fib1908 | I have a very slow net connection and dloading 4.1 |
| 18:09.36 | fib1908 | will take me abt 6-8 hrs |
| 18:09.44 | fib1908 | which I don't wan't to do |
| 18:09.55 | fib1908 | can we upgrade instead gkiagia ?? |
| 18:12.03 | gkiagia | upgrade instead? |
| 18:12.11 | gkiagia | what do you mean? |
| 18:12.31 | fib1908 | I mean |
| 18:12.36 | fib1908 | from 4.0 to 4.1 |
| 18:12.45 | fib1908 | can I upgrade frm 4 to 4.1 |
| 18:13.00 | fib1908 | or do I need to dload all those lib files seperately again |
| 18:13.09 | fib1908 | :) |
| 18:13.21 | gkiagia | what distro are you using? |
| 18:13.50 | fib1908 | I was using ubuntu and dloaded 210 MB kde4 with some applications |
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| 18:14.35 | gkiagia | you can upgrade... but you'll have to download around the same amount of data |
| 18:14.58 | fib1908 | ohh it's like dat ? gkiagia |
| 18:15.11 | gkiagia | dat? |
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| 18:15.21 | gkiagia | it's debian packages |
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| 18:15.29 | fib1908 | no |
| 18:15.36 | fib1908 | I meant is it like that ? |
| 18:15.45 | gkiagia | you download them from the package manager and you install them |
| 18:15.48 | gkiagia | no |
| 18:16.04 | fib1908 | ok |
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| 18:16.20 | gkiagia | but if you find a way.. it's highly recommended to upgrade to 4.1 |
| 18:16.20 | sandsmark | debian don't distribute binary patches, so you have to download everything again |
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| 18:16.32 | sandsmark | (nor does ubuntu, for that matter) |
| 18:16.36 | fib1908 | since I got a kwin bug can I dload kwin alone ? |
| 18:16.54 | fib1908 | hey hi sandsmark |
| 18:17.01 | gkiagia | I don't think so... |
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| 18:17.16 | gkiagia | it will have binary incompatibility issues |
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| 18:30.09 | murrant | does anyone know the channel for kde on windows? |
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| 18:30.46 | maazu | murrant: is there kde for windows? does it come with a fee? |
| 18:31.09 | gkiagia | maazu: windows.kde.org |
| 18:31.29 | murrant | maazu: of course there is, no fee, since years ago, qt libs have been released under gpl on windows |
| 18:31.40 | gkiagia | isn't it #kde-windows? (just a guess) |
| 18:31.52 | maazu | gkiagia: will browse that later |
| 18:33.43 | murrant | gkiagia: correct, I should have just guessed (I clicked it and konversation opened "#kde-windows?" lol) |
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| 18:34.04 | gkiagia | lol |
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| 18:49.48 | Nutzebahn | Hello. Is anything wrong with KDE4 or should I install it now? |
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| 18:50.20 | maazu | Nutzebahn: am using KDE4.01 now |
| 18:50.55 | Nutzebahn | Ok, alright. |
| 18:51.30 | maazu | if you'd join this channel half an hour ago, you'd be pleased to know there is kde-windows |
| 18:51.39 | Nutzebahn | So if I type kde in Synaptic? it will show me kde4? Or is KDE4 still under development? |
| 18:51.39 | maazu | it supports MS Vista! |
| 18:51.49 | Nutzebahn | Oh. |
| 18:51.50 | Nutzebahn | Well |
| 18:51.54 | Nutzebahn | I'm not using Windows |
| 18:52.19 | maazu | thought you'd be interested... |
| 18:53.16 | maazu | good night |
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| 18:54.21 | Nutzebahn | In Synaptic, which KDE4 package should I select? |
| 18:55.51 | PhilRod | Nutzebahn: #kubuntu |
| 18:56.11 | Nutzebahn | I am using Ubuntu. |
| 18:56.18 | PhilRod | no, I mean go ask in #kubuntu |
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| 19:30.20 | plak | anyone know howto get kde4 panel across 2 screens? |
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| 19:38.20 | bobgill | I use a plain flux session but use amarok, and I just used "systemsettings" to change colour scheme but amarok looks the same? Previously in kcontrol I hit "apply" and amarok changed |
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| 19:46.36 | timte | I added a samba share to "Places" in Dolphin. I specify username and password, but get access denied when I'm trying to create a folder. It works fine creating a folder if i login using smbclient. |
| 19:48.32 | timte | is it logging in anonymously even if specifying smb://tim@192.168.3.160/media ? |
| 19:48.36 | gkiagia | bobgill: you may also have to configure amarok to respect kde's colors |
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| 19:49.25 | gkiagia | timte: I don't think so, it should work |
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| 19:52.50 | timte | gkiagia: I have the same error when trying to mount it by adding a line to /etc/fstab |
| 19:53.00 | timte | smbclient work though for some reason |
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| 19:53.27 | gkiagia | it might be a samba issue |
| 19:53.54 | gkiagia | I guess kio doesn't use smbclient directly.... |
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| 20:14.30 | iliketacos | is there a way in kde4 to change the menu to program->description instead of description->program |
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| 20:26.05 | techouse | i'm using openSUSE 11.0 and KDE 4.1 from the repositories and I get no sound; the strange thing is that I had sound with KDE 4.0 |
| 20:26.30 | techouse | it has something to do with phonon but i don't know how to fix it |
| 20:26.37 | N9NU | no sound here too |
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| 20:26.46 | N9NU | SB Audigy series |
| 20:28.18 | techouse | i got Audigy 2 ZS |
| 20:28.49 | N9NU | yup. same here |
| 20:28.54 | N9NU | 2 series |
| 20:28.57 | techouse | i read numerous forum posts...nothing :( |
| 20:29.17 | techouse | i installed some phonon xine backend...still nothing |
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| 20:30.12 | N9NU | fortunately I have on board audio and I am going to re-enable it and yank the SB card out |
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| 20:33.06 | techouse | NgNU: there must be another solution |
| 20:33.06 | techouse | i also got a realtek onboard |
| 20:33.51 | N9NU | yeah.,..thats what this one is as well. Hi-def one |
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| 20:36.47 | techouse | ngnu: do you maybe need to add yourself to the audio group? |
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| 20:41.09 | Nutzebahn | http://pastebin.com/d7f3e4ea1 |
| 20:42.26 | krijali__ | Okay, I know this question must get asked a lot but here goes: I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 (on PPC). I'm attempting to install 4.1 in the fashion illustrated at techbase.kde.org. I'd rather stay with my user so I've been editing .bashrc, .bash_profile and created .my-setup respectively. Well, the problem is using the 'cs' and 'cb' functions. I can call them from the console myself, but scripts can't. I'm befudled as to why. (sry if I wrote |
| 20:42.26 | krijali__ | this twice, my irc client is being a little buggy) |
| 20:44.00 | krijali__ | and the scripts declare #!/bin/bash as well |
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| 20:48.12 | bobgill | gkiagia: yes I have Amarok set to use "Current KDE color scheme" in settings > appearance |
| 20:48.17 | bobgill | but still will not change :\ |
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| 20:50.06 | Nutzebahn | I have the same problem, bobgill. |
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| 20:53.16 | mdiehl | Hi all. |
| 20:54.54 | blauzahl | krijali_: do you need to source your config first? |
| 20:55.09 | mdiehl | I seem to be having trouble getting konsole to launch. |
| 20:55.42 | mdiehl | It complains about not being able to open a PTY. |
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| 20:56.39 | mdiehl | It goes on to say that it needs read/write access to the pty devices. |
| 20:56.44 | mdiehl | I've set them to 777. |
| 20:56.51 | mdiehl | Any ideas? |
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| 21:04.53 | tioan | how a can add an suspend and hibernate entry into the kde4.1 shutdown dialog |
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| 21:08.35 | jetpeach | i would like to help clean up/close old bugs in bugs.kde.org - i often run into many that are invalid. but my bugs.kde.org doesn't give me any options to close bugs or anything, does this require special admin privaledges? |
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| 21:08.51 | jetpeach | should i just post comments on these bugs that they should be closed? |
| 21:08.53 | abbe | hi all |
| 21:09.33 | abbe | I'm planning to install KDE on my gentoo gnu/linux box. Can anyone tell me if memory usage, and cpu usage in kde4.1 is more than kde 3.5 ? |
| 21:10.02 | jetpeach | depends if you have an nvidia card |
| 21:10.37 | jetpeach | if you have an nvidia card that suffers from the bug in their driver that affects kde4, it's super slow. otherwise, kde4 should be better/faster i think |
| 21:10.39 | abbe | jetpeach: I've intel 945G graphics |
| 21:10.58 | abbe | jetpeach: is that okay ? |
| 21:11.33 | jetpeach | i think you'll find it uses less memory/cpu, although that's just my qualitative observation (although i think i remember reading some articles comparing at one point, saying this as well) |
| 21:11.41 | AlexElliott | I'd be interested in any scientific (ish) tests of that nature as well. Just because I'm wondering. KDE4 is new, and so has some extra stuff which might slow it down, but it's also based on Qt4 which is more efficient, and also there are some parts of KDE3 yet to be implemented. Hard to guess though |
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| 21:11.48 | jetpeach | yep, intel 945g should be fine i think |
| 21:12.31 | jetpeach | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3138 |
| 21:12.36 | jetpeach | although that's a bit old |
| 21:12.37 | abbe | jetpeach: thanks :) |
| 21:13.12 | abbe | on an average how much time it takes to compile kde4 on 3.0 GHz Hyperthreaded AMD64 boxen with 2 GiB RAM |
| 21:13.21 | abbe | runs gentoo gnu/linux |
| 21:13.32 | jetpeach | but something to keep in mind - all your programs may not yet be on KDE4, so if you run, for example, amarok 1.4, you're kde3 libraries will load as well |
| 21:13.50 | jetpeach | i haven't found it to affect performance on my computers, but they all have plenty of memory (1gig or more) |
| 21:13.51 | abbe | uses musicpd |
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| 21:17.14 | jetpeach | anybody know how to get admin rights on bugs.kde.org? i'd like to close bugs to help out, if possible |
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| 21:25.19 | gkiagia | jetpeach: come to #kde-bugs :) |
| 21:25.41 | xenol | i dont know if it's a bug but when i type applications:/Multimedia/ in konq/dolp, the apps arent listed there |
| 21:27.03 | gkiagia | xenol: yeah I can confirm this. must be a bug |
| 21:28.37 | xenol | gkiagia: and sometimes i have a feeling that whole kde4.1 is sluggish when working with windows (resizing, attaching & detahcing yakuake etc), i got nvidia 8x00 series |
| 21:28.43 | xenol | that's the problem ? |
| 21:29.00 | blauzahl | jetpeach: its a little more complicated than that, but indeed, if you come to #kde-bugs, we'll show you ;) |
| 21:29.11 | gkiagia | xenol: it's a known nvidia bug |
| 21:29.18 | gkiagia | blame nvidia |
| 21:29.26 | xenol | y i know |
| 21:29.34 | blauzahl | xenol: there's a techbase.kde.org page that was linked to from the dot article that will help you tune it |
| 21:29.49 | gkiagia | xenol: http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA |
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| 21:31.15 | bvierra | hey all running 4.1 when I go to add a widget from the internet, it says it is installed yet it doesnt show up in the add list, any ideas? |
| 21:31.31 | xenol | y got also the same problem as bvierra |
| 21:31.41 | cb400f | no ideas.. same experience |
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| 21:31.58 | bvierra | well at least I am not the only one... heh\ |
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| 21:34.45 | xenol | gkiagia: woho, what a boost => |
| 21:34.56 | gkiagia | hehe |
| 21:35.04 | xenol | thx very much |
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| 21:36.34 | gkiagia | bvierra: installing widgets from the internet does not work, this is a known *limitation*, not a bug |
| 21:36.48 | bvierra | ah ok that makes sense at least :) |
| 21:36.50 | gkiagia | you have to download and compile those widgets |
| 21:36.58 | bvierra | cool |
| 21:37.04 | gkiagia | the downloader cannot compile them automatically |
| 21:37.09 | bvierra | got it |
| 21:37.12 | gkiagia | that's why it doesn't work ;) |
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| 21:37.58 | xenol | oh |
| 21:38.18 | gkiagia | so, for widgets, head to kde-apps.org, download the code and compile it ;) |
| 21:38.50 | bvierra | thats what I am doing now :) |
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| 21:39.27 | gkiagia | the plasma guys are discussing a possible fix for this, I guess we will have more news on that after akademy |
| 21:39.36 | xenol | gkiagia: can u explain plz, what can i do with "add activity", as i see i gives me new dekstop, but when i switch virtual desktops, it doesnt changes to new activity |
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| 21:40.21 | gkiagia | xenol: you can have other plasmoids on that activity and you can switch activities by zooming in/out |
| 21:40.37 | xenol | ah |
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| 21:41.14 | xenol | hum kde4 doesnt use ~/Desktop anymore as i see |
| 21:42.03 | gkiagia | well, if you add icons on the desktop, it does |
| 21:43.30 | xenol | gkiagia: will it create ~/Desktop ? |
| 21:44.05 | gkiagia | I don't know |
| 21:44.08 | gkiagia | never tried |
| 21:44.26 | gkiagia | there was a good video on youtube with activities... |
| 21:44.46 | gkiagia | but gnash seems to be acting strangely today :S |
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| 21:45.22 | xenol | gkiagia: what browser |
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| 21:45.28 | xenol | konq |
| 21:45.28 | gkiagia | firefox |
| 21:45.29 | xenol | ? |
| 21:45.31 | xenol | oh |
| 21:45.37 | xenol | why not use flash ? |
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| 21:46.16 | gkiagia | actually gnash used to work on youtube and as I don't need flash for anything else, I didn't want to put non-free software without purpose on my computer |
| 21:46.36 | xenol | ah |
| 21:47.18 | buntfalke | Can anyone recommend a linux (v4l2) to mac Video-over-IP software besides Skype? |
| 21:47.27 | xenol | ekiga ? |
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| 21:48.08 | gkiagia | I guess ekiga is the best choice after skype... never heard of anything else though |
| 21:48.19 | gkiagia | I really wish there was a kde app for that too |
| 21:48.32 | ilembitov | Does anybody knows whether Akademy's materials from the presentations (e.g. video or texts) can be found anywhere on the web? |
| 21:48.32 | buntfalke | gkiagia: wengo is out there too, but i got trouble getting it to work |
| 21:49.05 | buntfalke | ekiga again...well...seems like that is my last chance then...okay. dont like it that much for being gtk-based |
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| 21:52.37 | techouse | how do i kill dekorator in kde4 to use emerald instead? |
| 21:52.40 | KARABASAN_ZERO | #apronax_zero |
| 21:52.43 | gkiagia | buntfalke: I don't like it too... I hope kopete will someday be able to replace ekiga |
| 21:53.12 | buntfalke | gkiagia: video chat is possible yet |
| 21:53.38 | gkiagia | yeah but it's totally unstable |
| 21:53.50 | gkiagia | you really can't rely on it |
| 21:54.25 | gkiagia | techouse: kde uses the kwin window manager which is also a decorator |
| 21:54.38 | gkiagia | techouse: emerald is to be run with compiz |
| 21:54.50 | gkiagia | techouse: so, if you load compiz, emerald will be used |
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| 21:55.33 | techouse | gkiagia: well...it isn't |
| 21:55.47 | techouse | unless i kill kwin emerald is supressed |
| 21:56.07 | KARABASAN_ZERO | Türk olan varmı |
| 21:56.09 | KARABASAN_ZERO | :D |
| 21:56.30 | gkiagia | KARABASAN_ZERO: stop it |
| 21:57.31 | techouse | gkiagia: i mean....i am using compiz but the window titlebar is from the default kde4 decorator |
| 21:57.49 | techouse | and 2 min ago that one crashed and emerald took over |
| 21:58.01 | techouse | now...how do i get that to work? |
| 21:58.08 | gkiagia | hmm is there a kde4 decorator for compiz? |
| 21:58.13 | gkiagia | look |
| 21:58.17 | gkiagia | if compiz is running |
| 21:58.20 | KARABASAN_ZERO | #apronax_zero |
| 21:58.23 | gkiagia | then kde has nothing to do with it |
| 21:58.29 | gkiagia | any admin in here? |
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| 21:58.34 | gkiagia | pinotree: ? |
| 21:58.53 | gkiagia | compiz has many decorators |
| 21:58.58 | techouse | gkiagia: i got emerald enabled in fusion-icon, but no emerald used |
| 21:59.10 | gkiagia | techouse: that's a compiz problem |
| 21:59.24 | gkiagia | as long as compiz is running |
| 21:59.29 | techouse | dunno... |
| 21:59.33 | gkiagia | kwin has nothing to do with it |
| 21:59.57 | gkiagia | maybe ask the compiz guys |
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| 22:00.31 | KARABASAN_ZERO | #apronax_zero channel |
| 22:01.24 | Zaister | I have a question about Kate in KDE 4.1: I have a custom filetype that uses a tab width of 6. in KDE 3.5 I used "kate: indent-width 6;" on the Variables line in the config dialog. This seems to get iognored now. Has anything changed? |
| 22:01.28 | KARABASAN_ZERO | please login #apronax_zero channel |
| 22:01.36 | gkiagia | KARABASAN_ZERO: get out of here |
| 22:01.39 | techouse | gkiagia: i got compiz on and sculpture with the kde window decorator |
| 22:01.45 | techouse | dunno |
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| 22:28.02 | killown | I can't find the option to change gtk themes in kde usually it's "control center > aparence > gtk themes" but does it path not exist anyone have a clue to resolv it? |
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| 22:28.24 | gkiagia | killown: install the gtk-qt theme and it will appear |
| 22:28.33 | killown | ok |
| 22:28.47 | drantin | gtk-engines-qt isn't it? |
| 22:29.30 | gkiagia | probably |
| 22:29.45 | killown | gkiagia, I need restart kde after install it? |
| 22:29.55 | gkiagia | killown: I don't think so |
| 22:30.11 | gkiagia | you may need to restart kde though to apply the gtk theme correctly |
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| 22:30.53 | killown | gkiagia, thank you |
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| 22:36.41 | DTinux | I'm trying to make switch over to the KDE (slackware 12.1 with kde 3.5) windows manager and have a simple question: the kmenu is divided into three sections on my installation: Most Used Applications, All Applications, and Actions. When I go to the kmenu editor only the All Applications section appears. How do I edit the Actions section? |
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| 22:37.29 | rizvan | /root/build/kdebase-runtime-4.1.61/nepomuk/services/strigi/strigiservice.cpp:75: error: 'Strigi::IndexPluginLoader' has not been declared |
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| 22:49.03 | xenol | gkiagia: plz do u know how to remove activity? :> |
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| 22:49.26 | gkiagia | xenol: zoom out, right click on the activity, press delete |
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| 22:49.44 | gkiagia | delete in the context menu, not the keyboard of course :) |
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| 22:50.48 | xenol | thx |
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| 23:04.27 | rizvan_1 | error: strigi/indexpluginloader.h: No such file or directory |
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| 23:07.40 | luuuciano | Hi! I am using kde 4.1, and wanted to see the effects... and now I can not see anything :( just the shadows... is there any file to edit it and disable all the efects? |
| 23:09.45 | blauzahl | luuuciano: yes. |
| 23:10.10 | blauzahl | iirc, its under .kde4/share/applications/kwinrc and turn composite off |
| 23:10.22 | blauzahl | there's a toggle true/false |
| 23:10.55 | blauzahl | then you can look up your video card and see what the known driver issues are and if you can make it work :) |
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| 23:11.17 | xenol | hum can some tell me how can i obtain notes plasmoid? i have been looking for it but i cant seem to find it >< |
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| 23:12.29 | DTinux | I'm trying to make switch over to the KDE (slackware 12.1 with kde 3.5) windows manager and have a simple question: the kmenu is divided into three sections on my installation: Most Used Applications, All Applications, and Actions. When I go to the kmenu editor only the All Applications section appears. How do I edit the Actions section? |
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| 23:13.13 | luuuciano | blauzahl, thanks a lot! |
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| 23:14.33 | blauzahl | luuuciano: np ;) especially if that's the right file :D |
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| 23:15.51 | rizvan_1 | DTinux, it actions can't be changed |
| 23:16.14 | Gunirus | Akademy ftw :) |
| 23:16.28 | xenol | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/screenshots/systemsettings-appearance.jpg |
| 23:16.37 | xenol | the yellow thingy is nepomuk ? |
| 23:16.51 | DTinux | that's too bad, it has bad links in it...like control center doesn't work |
| 23:17.43 | DTinux | I would think I should be able to right click on any link/icon and change the settings for it |
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| 23:18.02 | xenol | gkiagia: can u tell me plz ? |
| 23:18.02 | rizvan_1 | but, you can enable/disable it from kicker->right-click->panel settings |
| 23:18.37 | gkiagia | xenol: it's the notes plasmoid |
| 23:19.05 | gkiagia | you can get it by installing kdeplasma-addons |
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| 23:19.52 | DTinux | I just want the links to work that are there |
| 23:20.15 | rizvan_1 | xenol http://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/kde/stable/4.1.0/src/kdeplasma-addons-4.1.0.tar.bz2 |
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| 23:20.33 | DTinux | instead of having to use terminal for kcontrol and all the k configuration stuff |
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| 23:22.40 | rizvan_1 | DTinux, you may switch to kde4.1: packages are at:http://kde4.rlworkman.net/packages/ |
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| 23:24.26 | DTinux | do they have .tgz? |
| 23:24.32 | rizvan_1 | yes |
| 23:24.48 | rizvan_1 | download deps and kde |
| 23:26.03 | luuuciano | blauzahl, it worked! the file was in other path, but I found it using locate... thanks a lot! |
| 23:26.15 | blauzahl | excellent :) |
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| 23:29.33 | rizvan_1 | where is: strigi/indexpluginloader.h |
| 23:29.43 | rizvan_1 | can't compile kdebase-runtime |
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| 23:34.12 | DTinux | ok, thanks, guess I'll go backup my box and then give the new kde a whirl |
| 23:34.56 | DTinux | is it going to have any compatibility with my saved themes from kde3.x, or do I start from scratch? |
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| 23:38.06 | MacGyverNL | When I want to start a gnome session from a single-window external X server (XMing) I can type "gnome-session" as app to launch. What would be the KDE equivalent? |
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| 23:49.49 | m3F | could i test KDE4.1 here in Mandriva? how? |
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| 23:50.32 | m3F | sorry, i have to ask in #mandriva :) |
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