| 00:01.24 | flea_ | szakulec, u could disable your verizon incoming .. and fwd the messages back to yourself@verizon.net |
| 00:03.01 | flea_ | i dont know if its going to work tho :/ |
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| 00:03.18 | flea_ | 1) verizon sucks 2) pop3 sucks 3) i dont use either |
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| 00:05.31 | szakulec | it's verizon or comcast- pick your poison :) |
| 00:06.17 | kniolet_ | at least verizon offers fiber to the home |
| 00:06.35 | szakulec | they do |
| 00:06.50 | flea_ | oh trust me, its verizon |
| 00:07.09 | kniolet_ | it doesnt make me hate the company less lol |
| 00:07.20 | kniolet_ | but they are pretty much the only ones in the us taht offer that |
| 00:07.36 | flea_ | i just hate callin my friends with verizon and they always sound like monsters due to their overly tasked network |
| 00:07.55 | flea_ | or their inability to make a call at times |
| 00:08.21 | kniolet_ | flea_: landline or cell? |
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| 00:08.46 | flea_ | kniolet_, cell |
| 00:08.56 | pepito | hi sorry |
| 00:09.00 | flea_ | i tend to 4get that landlines exist still |
| 00:09.07 | pepito | i cant hear ani sounf in my sistem |
| 00:09.15 | pepito | i use te sabayon |
| 00:09.18 | kniolet_ | to me, the really bad part about verizons cell network is that it isnt GSM, so no roaming outside the US |
| 00:09.33 | kniolet_ | yeah i forget about them too most of the time lol |
| 00:10.18 | flea_ | kinda like the floppy... WHY |
| 00:11.00 | kniolet_ | i saw a box of floppies in a store the other day lol i looked twice just to make sure i didnt imagine it |
| 00:11.12 | szakulec | flea_: I work at a place currently where floppies are a KEY thing for certain tasks |
| 00:11.50 | flea_ | szakulec, dont be offended, but i am not at all impressed |
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| 00:12.23 | szakulec | I'm not at all- just mentioning it as an aside here |
| 00:12.30 | kniolet_ | makes sure to stay far away from szakulec's job |
| 00:12.37 | flea_ | lolll |
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| 00:13.45 | kniolet_ | what in the world do you use floppies for? |
| 00:13.56 | aseigo | throwing at people |
| 00:14.08 | kniolet_ | aseigo: ROFLMAO |
| 00:14.23 | szakulec | some sites store medical images on them |
| 00:14.29 | aseigo | therefore i like szakulec's company's definition of "key tasks" |
| 00:14.45 | aseigo | on floppies? zoinks. |
| 00:15.04 | szakulec | yeah- the more up-to-date places send them on CD's or electronically |
| 00:15.24 | kniolet_ | oh i was thinking "key tasks" was like the doors had built-in floppy drives and the disks had key files stored on them that the doors would read and then unlock |
| 00:15.34 | flea_ | szakulec, what area of the world do u live in... cuz i do NOT want to get injured anywhere around there |
| 00:15.42 | kniolet_ | lol |
| 00:15.47 | aseigo | hahaha |
| 00:15.52 | aseigo | flea_: no sense of adventure |
| 00:16.03 | kniolet_ | sounds like germany to me |
| 00:16.12 | szakulec | no worries- I'm in the US- the sites can be anywhere |
| 00:16.14 | flea_ | aseigo, u should go into work 2morrow and tell EVERYONE that its 2008 and see how they react |
| 00:16.31 | flea_ | sorry not aseigo ... szakulec |
| 00:16.43 | DanielW | kniolet_: ? why germany? |
| 00:16.57 | kniolet_ | actually aseigo should do that too just to see how they react |
| 00:17.06 | flea_ | hahaha |
| 00:17.06 | aseigo | yes. all .. um.. zero people i work with |
| 00:17.09 | kniolet_ | lol |
| 00:17.12 | kniolet_ | well you know |
| 00:17.18 | kniolet_ | call up the berlin office |
| 00:17.20 | kniolet_ | and tell them |
| 00:17.20 | aseigo | actually, that's not true. i have a house guest coming, and we'll be hacking together while they're here |
| 00:17.58 | aseigo | haha.. yeah.. "guys, i have something very important to say. is Ettrich there? good. good. ok.. people, it is two .. thousand.. and eight. i know, snuck up on me too!" |
| 00:18.01 | flea_ | i think the 'snail mail' project they are working on is more reliable than a floppy |
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| 00:18.25 | kniolet_ | aseigo: exactly! |
| 00:18.26 | flea_ | lol |
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| 00:36.19 | diceman | hellow |
| 00:36.28 | diceman | someone can help me ? |
| 00:36.43 | diceman | i need to change my kde splash screen |
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| 00:38.47 | jals | hey, not sure if this is a distro specific question, but how do i change the size of the font/icons in dolphin's sidebar |
| 00:40.02 | jals | the bookmarks sidebar |
| 00:41.00 | kniolet__ | preferences->view mode or something i think |
| 00:41.57 | kniolet__ | you mean the "places" bar right? |
| 00:42.32 | jals | where it has the system locations |
| 00:42.38 | jals | home, system, network etc |
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| 00:43.27 | jals | view modes only seems to affect the main documents area, not the sidebar |
| 00:43.39 | kniolet__ | ah right |
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| 00:44.48 | kniolet__ | hmmm good question |
| 00:45.13 | jals | darn |
| 00:45.25 | jals | that's just another way of saying, "no one knows" lol |
| 00:45.25 | Jucato | just resize the sidebar |
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| 00:45.31 | jals | yeah it doesn't resize the text |
| 00:45.32 | Jucato | if you're on KDE 4, that is |
| 00:45.36 | jals | ah i'm not |
| 00:45.59 | jals | hey that's another thing, i'm using kubuntu, any idea if it's easy to upgrade to kde4? |
| 00:46.27 | Jucato | #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 00:46.28 | kniolet__ | yeah 1 sec i will find the repo |
| 00:47.08 | kniolet__ | add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:47.32 | kniolet__ | (assuming you are using kubuntu 8.04) |
| 00:47.44 | jals | i am |
| 00:47.59 | jals | how is kde 4? thinking i should maybe wait til 4.1 |
| 00:48.13 | kniolet__ | i think that repo has 4.1beta1 |
| 00:48.37 | jals | ah neat |
| 00:48.38 | kniolet__ | it installs it next to kde3 |
| 00:48.46 | kniolet__ | so you can start either one when you log in |
| 00:49.22 | jals | now that's clever |
| 00:49.59 | kniolet__ | agrees |
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| 00:54.25 | jals | not finding it when i search for 4.1 |
| 00:54.31 | jals | or kde4.1 |
| 00:55.34 | jals | what OS you on kniolet__ ? |
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| 00:55.38 | jals | distro i mean |
| 00:55.56 | kniolet__ | kubuntu 8.04 |
| 00:56.38 | jals | ah |
| 00:56.46 | jals | i'm debating giving opensuse a go |
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| 00:59.50 | kniolet__ | jals: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.06.05/hardy-kde-41-beta-1-completed/ |
| 01:00.10 | kniolet__ | open suse is ok, mandriva is actually my favorite |
| 01:00.32 | Ambient | what's so cool about mandriva? |
| 01:00.53 | Jucato | distro discussion --> #kde-chat please |
| 01:01.27 | jals | sorry, ok so if i install kde4-core via adept it'll install alongside kde3? |
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| 01:02.02 | kniolet__ | i think kde4-core is the old one |
| 01:02.14 | kniolet__ | follow the instructions on that link i just pasted |
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| 01:02.38 | jals | right, i just mean, it says "Once you have done that and you already have a previous KDE 4 version installed, type the following in Konsole:" |
| 01:02.53 | zakm | how come when i start amarok i get a "<unknown program name>(7416)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server" |
| 01:02.59 | jals | i'm just checking if install kde 4 first, it'll install alongside |
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| 01:03.32 | kniolet__ | if you didnt have a previous one you skip that step ;-) yes it will be alongside (unless something radically changed in the last couple days) |
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| 01:04.31 | jals | the article seems to be assuming you already have kde 4 installed |
| 01:04.31 | kniolet__ | no just the first step does |
| 01:04.31 | kniolet__ | you start with the next one |
| 01:04.31 | jals | oh i see what you mean |
| 01:04.32 | kniolet__ | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop |
| 01:04.35 | jals | gotcha |
| 01:04.46 | jals | sorry |
| 01:05.14 | kniolet__ | btw, you almost certainly will have to install kdebase-runtime-data-common also (like it says you may) |
| 01:05.35 | kniolet__ | or else you wont have icons in the k-menu thingy |
| 01:06.28 | jals | right, it'll take a bit to download on my connection |
| 01:07.58 | kniolet__ | once its done, you just log out and select kde4 from the little menu thingy on the login screen |
| 01:08.06 | jals | cool |
| 01:08.09 | jals | thanks kniolet__ |
| 01:08.15 | kniolet__ | yep np :-) |
| 01:08.50 | kniolet__ | ok its 3am time to get some sleey |
| 01:08.52 | kniolet__ | sleep |
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| 01:09.29 | jals | later dude |
| 01:09.43 | pretz | hullo |
| 01:10.13 | pretz | anybody home ? |
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| 01:12.50 | pretz | anyone here ? |
| 01:13.16 | jals | me |
| 01:14.36 | pretz | who are you ? |
| 01:15.13 | kniolet__ | this looks like an intersing conversation lol |
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| 01:15.50 | pretz | interesting ? no one's conversing on here... ;) |
| 01:17.21 | kniolet__ | well there were about 3 lines of conversation |
| 01:18.11 | pretz | which is not too much, if you ask me... |
| 01:18.37 | kniolet__ | it was interesting that you asked someone who they were without introducing yourself first |
| 01:19.42 | pretz | oops, i am so sorry... thanks for pointing that out kniolet. i am 32/male/pennsylvania... |
| 01:20.12 | kniolet__ | is reminded of #chat on undernet suddenly |
| 01:20.24 | pretz | just got interested in this Linux thing... and installed this Fedora 9 |
| 01:20.39 | kniolet__ | i see |
| 01:20.45 | kniolet__ | did you have a question about something? |
| 01:20.50 | jals | 16/f/florida!!!111omg!! |
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| 01:20.53 | pretz | and i have absolutely no idea what this IRC is... |
| 01:21.02 | kniolet__ | ah well |
| 01:21.23 | Deformative | How would I go about preloading all the kde stuff without using kde? |
| 01:21.23 | pretz | yes, kniolet |
| 01:21.31 | pretz | what's "undernet" ?? |
| 01:21.36 | kniolet__ | IRC is basically just chat rooms, but the technology dates back to the early days of the internet |
| 01:21.44 | Deformative | I just want everything preloaded for use with konqueror, konsole, and kopete. |
| 01:21.50 | jals | or mulitplayer notepad to put it another way |
| 01:21.57 | kniolet__ | undernet is an IRC server, right now you are logged into the freenode IRC server |
| 01:22.25 | Deformative | pretz: Google is your friend. |
| 01:22.30 | pretz | and this freenode IRC server is like yahoo chat ? |
| 01:22.41 | kniolet__ | jals: lol@the asl above |
| 01:23.05 | kniolet__ | its not completely un-like yahoo chat |
| 01:23.09 | pretz | what's so funny about the asl ? |
| 01:23.32 | kniolet__ | the one jals wrote was a joke |
| 01:23.41 | jals | yeah kniolet__, do you object to hot jailbait girls using kde?! |
| 01:23.42 | kniolet__ | its not common to write your asl on freenode |
| 01:24.17 | pretz | what's your asl, kniolet ? |
| 01:24.20 | kniolet__ | that is common on undernet though, in channels like #chat (which is just for general chatting about wahtever) |
| 01:24.20 | jals | s/on freenode/anywhere these days |
| 01:24.32 | jals | except undernet of course |
| 01:24.47 | jals | well, i guess i don't frequent the places that do ask it a lot |
| 01:24.56 | grundleborg | can you take this conversation to #kde-chat please (otherwise on-topic stuff gets drowned out) |
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| 01:25.04 | kniolet__ | jals: i dont either anymore, but when i was 16 i did lol |
| 01:25.17 | Deformative | How would I go about preloading all the kde stuff without using kde? |
| 01:25.19 | jals | sorry grundleborg |
| 01:25.24 | kniolet__ | grundleborg: good idea sorry |
| 01:25.28 | jals | am actually intrigued if pretz has a kde question |
| 01:25.44 | Jucato | Deformative: what do you mean by "without using kde"? |
| 01:26.03 | Deformative | Jucato: No kwin, no kicker, no kdesktop, etc etc. |
| 01:26.05 | grundleborg | lol Jucato, I was about to ask "what do you mean by preloading?" |
| 01:26.17 | kniolet__ | pretz: can you join #kde-chat please? |
| 01:26.35 | Deformative | Jucato: No desktop components, only apps. |
| 01:26.41 | jals | alright, kde4 is done downloading |
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| 01:26.56 | kniolet__ | jals: oh that wasnt too bad |
| 01:27.02 | jals | so now i need kdebase, that's just sudo apt-get kdebase-runtime-data-common? |
| 01:27.02 | pretz | how do i join #kde-chat ? if i knew how, i would've done so... |
| 01:27.13 | kniolet__ | type /join #kde-chat |
| 01:27.20 | pretz | ok, thanks |
| 01:27.28 | kevind23 | Is it possible to replace the Plasma desktop with Nautilus? I prefer the interface, plus Plasma doesn't display my desktop icons properly. |
| 01:28.10 | grundleborg | kevind23: install the gnome desktop shell, but continue to use KDE applications? |
| 01:28.25 | grundleborg | KDE apps work fine in a gnome session |
| 01:28.30 | kevind23 | I realise that. |
| 01:28.39 | Jucato | um.. except if you use Plasma... which takes over the desktop |
| 01:28.45 | jals | hmm i guess not |
| 01:28.47 | Jucato | imagines Nautilus and Plasma wrestling |
| 01:28.51 | kniolet__ | jals: yes |
| 01:29.02 | jals | oh |
| 01:29.06 | jals | that didn't work so much |
| 01:29.14 | jals | maybe i typed it wrong |
| 01:29.17 | kniolet__ | jals: thats not kde-base though, that should have already been installed |
| 01:29.29 | kniolet__ | oh i see what you mean |
| 01:29.30 | kniolet__ | yes |
| 01:29.36 | kniolet__ | thats just extra stuff for kde base |
| 01:29.38 | Jucato | Deformative: you will have to use the "preloading" system of whatever it is you are using |
| 01:29.43 | jals | it says i may need to install it to see icons? |
| 01:29.56 | kniolet__ | sudo apt-get install |
| 01:30.00 | Jucato | KDE's autostart system only works if you're using KDE :) |
| 01:30.00 | kniolet__ | you forgot the install |
| 01:30.01 | jals | doh |
| 01:30.05 | jals | idiot |
| 01:30.06 | kniolet__ | you you will need it |
| 01:30.19 | Deformative | Jucato: Should I just disable all of kde's features maybe? |
| 01:30.27 | Deformative | And continue using the autostart system. |
| 01:30.37 | Jucato | doesn't really understand |
| 01:30.40 | Deformative | Because in my experience loading things manually results in a slower system. |
| 01:30.41 | Jucato | what are you currently using? |
| 01:31.04 | Jucato | huh? slower system? O.o |
| 01:31.09 | grundleborg | kevind23: ah I misunderstood your question :). Wait for KDE 4.1 and KDE3 style desktop will be possible again iirc |
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| 01:31.23 | kevind23 | I'm using KDE 4.1, at least I think I am |
| 01:31.24 | Deformative | I am making my own desktop environment. |
| 01:31.27 | Deformative | A very simple one. |
| 01:31.30 | kevind23 | How exactly do I check, grundleborg? |
| 01:31.33 | Deformative | But I still want to use kde apps. |
| 01:31.53 | grundleborg | kevind23: open any KDE application and click on Help --> About KDE |
| 01:32.08 | Deformative | And kde apps do not run as well in the absence of kde, so I am looking to figure out the black magic behind it. |
| 01:32.10 | Jucato | Deformative: well, you will have to implement the freedesktop.org autostart standard for your own desktop environment |
| 01:32.13 | kevind23 | grundleborg: not KVIrc ;P |
| 01:32.28 | kniolet__ | jals: you will also need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kdepim-kde4 btw |
| 01:32.30 | grundleborg | hehe, that's probably an old version. try konqueror or kwrite |
| 01:32.34 | kevind23 | grundleborg: Version 4.00.82 (KDE 4.0.82 >= 20080610), close enough |
| 01:32.50 | jals | right oh |
| 01:33.05 | jals | i just let the system updates go so that'll take another 20 mins |
| 01:33.22 | kevind23 | Yeah, KVIrc uses Qt 3 >.> which is ugly, thanks to Debian's shoddy dependency system. |
| 01:33.43 | grundleborg | kevind23: I don't actually know how to configure it like the KDE3 desktop... maybe someone else can tell you |
| 01:34.05 | kevind23 | Any biters? |
| 01:34.21 | Deformative | Jucato: Not autostart, kde preloads a ton of .so into the ram. |
| 01:34.29 | Jucato | oh that |
| 01:34.35 | Jucato | no idea then |
| 01:34.48 | Jucato | (as for loading lots of .so into RAM, is that even accurate?) |
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| 02:00.22 | Deformative | Jucato: in startkde it talks about the preloading. |
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| 02:09.14 | Deformative | I think ksmserver does it. |
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| 02:40.47 | azlev | hi all. |
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| 03:06.29 | _tOg_ | Hello, im using gentoo with the svn version of kde4 installed but im running into a problem: a great number of plasmoids become a small square when you drag them to the desktop, no info inside, just a tiny black square. Could it be that im missing some kross language or something? Any help appreciated. |
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| 03:22.37 | moosah | Hi I have a Gateway C140XL with ATI mobility radeon 2300 HD and I was trying to install Kubuntu KDE4 remix and the CD loads and everything... it even shows me the text right before it tries to start X but then nothing happens.. what could be wrong and how do I fix it? |
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| 03:28.27 | flaccid | do i require sessions to be turned on in kde4 to retain my plasma panel? |
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| 03:32.52 | sabocat | Hey, I just upgraded to KDE4, and cant access the internet through it. Works fine in Gnome. Is there some config file I need to edit? |
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| 03:34.25 | Jucato | flaccid: I don't think so. there's no plasma session file in ~/.kde4/share/config/sessions/ here (and I have KDE set to automatically save and restore sessions) |
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| 03:35.01 | Jucato | sabocat: KDE 4 doesn't have its own network manager yet. so you have to run whatever network manager you are using in gnome if you want a GUI to use |
| 03:35.45 | sabocat | I don't need a GUI... just want to be able to browse/dl/email/etc. |
| 03:35.56 | sabocat | can't even ping my router in KDE |
| 03:36.19 | Jucato | sabocat: well, how do you start your network when you're in Gnome? |
| 03:37.01 | sabocat | i don't. it's just there, working, unless you mean net.eth0 in rc at boot |
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| 03:37.45 | Jucato | is guessing networkmanager is running and automatically sets it up or something like that |
| 03:38.31 | sabocat | no, f--- networkmanager. i have it configed in /etc/conf.d/net |
| 03:38.33 | flaccid | Jucato: hmm. i always loose my panel :( |
| 03:39.20 | Jucato | hm.. then that should work too. I mean I don't have networkmanager myself. |
| 03:39.24 | Jucato | flaccid: weird |
| 03:40.08 | flaccid | its my kde4 curse :) |
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| 03:43.12 | kalorin_ | question: is it possible to turn off kickoff as the bar doesn't work right with kubuntu remix so that you can put it on the side of the screen and use it there, the clock ends up being huge vertically and it doesn't size things correctly |
| 03:43.30 | kalorin_ | I'd just as soon use widgets on the desktop for things and be rid o fit |
| 03:44.37 | flaccid | you can simply remove it yes |
| 03:44.44 | flaccid | by right click |
| 03:48.07 | kalorin_ | i only have the optoin to make it: tiny, small, normal, big, and huge or custom and set it to the bottom, left , right, or top |
| 03:48.13 | kalorin_ | nothing about removing it |
| 03:48.47 | kalorin_ | I love the push to the upper left and it shows all virtual desktops thing |
| 03:48.49 | kalorin_ | very handy |
| 03:49.09 | Jucato | right-click on the K Menu icon |
| 03:49.15 | kalorin_ | wish the upper right would spread all the windows on the current desktop or something kind of f8 style |
| 03:49.40 | kalorin_ | jucato, I can remove that application launcher or mess with the panel settings |
| 03:49.45 | kalorin_ | I'm talking about the whole bar |
| 03:49.52 | kalorin_ | sorry kickoff might just be the launcher part |
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| 03:50.03 | Jucato | yes. "kickoff" is just the kmenu |
| 03:50.06 | flaccid | right click the panel, remove panel |
| 03:50.17 | Jucato | the whole panel? unless you're on KDE 4.0.x, you can right-click to remove |
| 03:50.37 | kalorin_ | I'm on 4.0.whatever comes with remix |
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| 03:50.50 | kalorin_ | how do I tell the version? |
| 03:51.11 | Jucato | any KDE app - Help -> About KDE |
| 03:51.33 | Jucato | but yeah, the remix comes with 4.0 by default, so no, there's no easy way to do that there |
| 03:52.23 | kalorin_ | k |
| 03:52.27 | kalorin_ | so 4.1 is out then? |
| 03:53.17 | kalorin_ | perhaps 8.10 is the one to wait for |
| 03:53.28 | kalorin_ | seems fairly useable though, had a pretty good run with it |
| 03:53.30 | Jucato | 4.1 will be out next month |
| 03:53.39 | Jucato | 8.10 is still in october |
| 03:53.45 | kalorin_ | righ |
| 03:54.16 | kalorin_ | I just hate wasting so much verticle space on a 15" WXGA laptop with that bar on the bottom |
| 03:54.19 | kalorin_ | or top |
| 03:54.30 | kalorin_ | much better on 16:9 to put it on the left side or something |
| 03:54.41 | kalorin_ | but when you do, it makes a real mess of things |
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| 03:54.59 | kalorin_ | the digital clock takes about 1/2 the veritcle height of the bar |
| 03:55.55 | flaccid | there are a lot of issues like this existing |
| 03:55.55 | Jucato | rest assured. you will be pleased with KDE 4.1 |
| 03:56.19 | Jucato | at least most scale properly (except for the system tray) |
| 03:56.29 | kalorin_ | I'm very pleased with 4.0 other than a few little snags |
| 03:56.40 | kalorin_ | I love the widget idea |
| 03:56.59 | kalorin_ | seems like a lot of packages don't put things in the kickoff the way I'd expect, but it's still usable |
| 03:57.07 | kalorin_ | all in all it's prety usable, just little snags |
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| 04:03.05 | sabocat | ooops, guess i was using network manager. my bad. ok, now how do i add it to KDEs session apps? |
| 04:04.54 | flaccid | open it, sabocat |
| 04:05.24 | sabocat | ok |
| 04:05.45 | sabocat | then what? |
| 04:06.41 | flaccid | well if its not a k app i don't think it will be stored in the session so you probably have to use autostart, is that right Jucato? |
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| 04:07.57 | sabocat | hang on brb |
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| 04:09.33 | sabocat | ok back |
| 04:10.45 | Jucato | flaccid: it should still restore the non-kde app, but not it's exact state (just run it) |
| 04:11.05 | sabocat | yeah, it's working all is well |
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| 04:12.19 | flaccid | Jucato: ah ok. any apps that sessions can't do in kde? |
| 04:12.31 | flaccid | (ie. forgetting about the state, but just running) |
| 04:13.44 | Jucato | all non-KDE apps |
| 04:14.09 | Jucato | they are just run at start up. their state (what they have open, position, size, etc) is not guaranteed to be saved at logout |
| 04:17.16 | flaccid | np. thing is but how far does 'state' go. i mean it doesn't reconnect konversation or anything like that, or reconnect to a server via ssh in yakuake.. |
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| 04:18.52 | Jucato | ah well, those would be on a per-app basis. wrt konvi, it has to have the "connect on startup" enabled. |
| 04:19.46 | flaccid | ah gotya |
| 04:20.51 | Jucato | flaccid: in case you're interested: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html |
| 04:21.08 | shadok | and yakuake executes your shell, that's all, it's up to that shell to launch ssh |
| 04:21.27 | flaccid | thanks mate |
| 04:21.35 | Jucato | (or you could autostart a script that will do dcop magic on yakuake) |
| 04:21.36 | flaccid | up to the shell? |
| 04:21.39 | Jucato | dcop/dbus |
| 04:21.49 | Jucato | flaccid: .bashrc/.bash_profile stuff |
| 04:22.39 | flaccid | write a crazy bashrc script to re-connect to the servers you were connected to? |
| 04:22.51 | flaccid | i don't see why its up the shell when the sessions are managed by kde |
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| 04:23.26 | Jucato | flaccid: no, I was saying that was what shadok probably meant |
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| 04:23.48 | Jucato | Sho's (and thus mine as well) own way is to use a script with dcop/dbus calls |
| 04:23.53 | flaccid | im a bit confused but ok |
| 04:24.04 | shadok | Jucato: i think that's it :) |
| 04:24.08 | Jucato | though that was a long time ago.. so I can't remember how exactly |
| 04:25.32 | bgmiki | uh okular have bad zoom |
| 04:25.58 | Jucato | bad how? |
| 04:26.59 | flaccid | shadok: can you like help me to understand what you mean |
| 04:27.01 | bgmiki | wait to see picture of fonts |
| 04:27.38 | shadok | flaccid: your sentence here is all i think : ) <flaccid> write a crazy bashrc script to re-connect to the servers you were connected to? |
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| 04:28.09 | shadok | but imo yakuake should at least remember how many sessions it has before logout |
| 04:28.24 | flaccid | right, yep thats crazy... i mean if kde session manager claims to return state, then its not returning the state of being connected to an ssh server.. |
| 04:28.41 | flaccid | shadok: it does remember that doesn't it? |
| 04:28.53 | shadok | iirc no |
| 04:28.56 | flaccid | ok np |
| 04:28.58 | Jucato | (nope.. iirc.. though it's been a long time since I had a clean logout) |
| 04:29.20 | Jucato | (I only get forcibly logged out if X crashes due to some weird combo of a website + kwin effects) |
| 04:29.30 | shadok | Jucato: hehe same here, every time it's nvidia-drivers or Xorg that crashes |
| 04:29.32 | Jucato | (or from a power fluctuation/surge) |
| 04:29.45 | flaccid | yep im sick of the issues and a lot are video driver/xorg related :( |
| 04:29.49 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:30.00 | Jucato | that's how long since the last power fluctuation :( |
| 04:30.08 | Jucato | right. off to lunch |
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| 04:31.09 | bgmiki | Evince - http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6520/snapshot1jh1.png |
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| 04:31.35 | bgmiki | okular same zook - http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/430/snapshot2sh3.png |
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| 04:34.17 | sabocat | ok, next question: all non-KDE have no theme (basic X buttons, etc.) how do i make them look good again? |
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| 04:36.58 | nostar | is there a way to return kde 4.0 to double click behaviour? even kde apps in gnome are in single click mode |
| 04:38.17 | nostar | on fedora 9 that is, f9 has kde defaulted to single click mode |
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| 04:40.23 | mohankumar | i'm not able to transfer files from my bluetooth enabled mobile phone to the system |
| 04:40.43 | mohankumar | i could only *send* files from the system, not able to receive |
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| 04:41.48 | mohankumar | when i click the bluetooth tray icon, it opens konqueror with bluetooth unsupported protocol |
| 04:42.03 | mohankumar | i have installed all kde bluetooth packages |
| 04:42.14 | mohankumar | i use F9 |
| 04:43.47 | zakia | how do i test if a usb device run as usb 2 |
| 04:44.08 | zakia | and not in usb 1.1 |
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| 05:15.44 | Jucato | nostar: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse |
| 05:16.14 | Jucato | Single click is KDE's default mode, not just Fedora's |
| 05:18.58 | bgmiki | June 17th, 2008: Tag KDE 4.1 Beta 2 |
| 05:19.47 | thewhitepelican | is it less broken? |
| 05:20.01 | Jucato | compared to 4.0? definitely |
| 05:20.10 | thewhitepelican | compared ot beta 1 |
| 05:20.11 | Jucato | bgmiki: "tagging" is very different from "releasing" |
| 05:20.30 | bgmiki | i compile from trunk ...so |
| 05:20.36 | Jucato | thewhitepelican: not sure. I haven't tested snapshots... I just svn update |
| 05:20.44 | thewhitepelican | oic |
| 05:20.57 | thewhitepelican | I'm guessing no |
| 05:21.06 | thewhitepelican | IMHO, they are rushing to Market |
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| 05:21.18 | bgmiki | grrr ...akregator crash |
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| 05:21.48 | thewhitepelican | so many things are missing from kde4 |
| 05:21.50 | Jucato | rushing to market? the schedule has been like that for months! |
| 05:21.54 | thewhitepelican | I will stick to kde3 |
| 05:22.17 | Jucato | sure. no problem |
| 05:22.44 | thewhitepelican | it's stable and has what I need |
| 05:22.46 | Jucato | wonders if anyone was around when 3.0 was released |
| 05:27.41 | thewhitepelican | I don't operate on the bleeding edge |
| 05:27.45 | thewhitepelican | I need a stable OS |
| 05:28.28 | Jucato | doesn't see what the fuss is... |
| 05:29.10 | thewhitepelican | what do you mean? |
| 05:29.38 | Jucato | why people (not you) keep on complaining as if KDE 3.5 vanished from the face of the earth |
| 05:29.54 | thewhitepelican | that is indeed odd |
| 05:30.05 | grundleborg | Jucato: I think sometimes people are surprised that it is fully expected that people will carry on using 3.5 for a while |
| 05:30.19 | grundleborg | they think that if we release a new version, that we are insisting that they change immediately |
| 05:30.42 | thewhitepelican | right |
| 05:30.50 | Jucato | people are sometimes weird... |
| 05:30.57 | Jucato | as if we didn't warn them enough :) |
| 05:31.02 | thewhitepelican | there's the understatement of the year |
| 05:31.07 | grundleborg | whereas in reality, we expect some people to switch with each 4.x release (the lower the 'x', the more of a bleeding-edge-fan the user is) |
| 05:31.10 | Jucato | oh, and very short memories... if they were there when 3.0 was released |
| 05:31.51 | grundleborg | doesn't understand why people say "but I want a stable release" and "but its also got to be the latest release" |
| 05:32.08 | thewhitepelican | weird double standard |
| 05:32.20 | grundleborg | surely to have a stable system, you want to be a few releases behind, so its better tested... |
| 05:32.25 | thewhitepelican | if i had a test box, sore I'd be willing to try it |
| 05:32.37 | thewhitepelican | on a production box, forget it |
| 05:33.31 | Jucato | oh well... |
| 05:33.39 | grundleborg | me too. I run trunk on my computer (day-to-day stuff and kde dev'ing) (have done for ~9 months) but the computer I use for important work stuff still runs 3.5 and will do for a long time yet |
| 05:33.55 | Jucato | my important work *is* running trunk |
| 05:33.58 | Jucato | hahahah |
| 05:34.23 | grundleborg | Jucato: I would do too, but the 3.5 one is also used by none-coders who can't "just fix it" if its broken ;) |
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| 05:38.28 | ccamacho | is there any quicklauncher for kde 4.1b1? |
| 05:39.04 | Jucato | nope. but you can drag and drop from the K Menu to the panel |
| 05:39.17 | Jucato | there's a 3rd party quick launcher in kde-look.org. haven't tested it yet |
| 05:40.17 | nostar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.33 | Jucato | nostar: let me check |
| 05:40.47 | Jucato | nostar: but if you have system settings installed, you can just run "systemsettings" |
| 05:41.11 | nostar | ahh got it |
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| 05:46.00 | ccamacho | Jucato: how about some application that is not in the K menu? |
| 05:46.45 | Jucato | drag and drop from Dolphin usually works too |
| 05:46.53 | thewhitepelican | will there be an ability to add icons for apps to the taskbar? currently you cannot do this |
| 05:47.24 | Jucato | thewhitepelican: what do you mean? |
| 05:48.11 | thewhitepelican | everytime I try to add an icon to the panel (sorry) there seems to be no way to do this |
| 05:48.40 | thewhitepelican | by that I mean a launcher applet |
| 05:48.49 | Jucato | <Jucato> nope. but you can drag and drop from the K Menu to the panel |
| 05:48.56 | Jucato | <Jucato> there's a 3rd party quick launcher in kde-look.org. haven't tested it ye |
| 05:49.09 | ccamacho | ok.. lemme see |
| 05:50.30 | ccamacho | it doesn't work |
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| 05:56.34 | thewhitepelican | Jucato, when running kde 4.1 beta 1, under kubuntu, under virtualbox, everytime I shut down, it just sends me back to the ubuntu log on screen. Also, if I choose a new background, it doesn't stick |
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| 06:00.50 | localh0st | Is available to download KDE 4.1 yet? o_O |
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| 06:01.04 | thewhitepelican | beta 1 |
| 06:01.40 | localh0st | And is difference in this version that version 4.0.3? |
| 06:01.41 | jazka | and trunk :) |
| 06:01.55 | thewhitepelican | less stable |
| 06:01.59 | localh0st | Wow |
| 06:02.03 | jazka | http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1-beta1.php |
| 06:02.05 | localh0st | I doesnt know |
| 06:02.06 | jazka | look there |
| 06:02.13 | localh0st | Thanks |
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| 06:03.02 | Jucato | would argue that the current trunk is actually more stable and featured than 4.0... |
| 06:03.18 | jazka | indeed |
| 06:04.05 | localh0st | Whats packages i must compile to KDE 4.1 can start normal? Only kdebase-workspace should be installed? |
| 06:04.22 | localh0st | *and kdebase |
| 06:05.02 | jazka | oO |
| 06:05.40 | Jucato | I suggest you just use your distro's packages if they provide them |
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| 06:06.24 | shanky | good morning |
| 06:06.33 | localh0st | Ive got ArchLinux, so i have in repo only 4.0.3 version |
| 06:07.22 | Jucato | ask in #archlinux I'm sure they have packages |
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| 06:07.56 | sysop2 | hi guys |
| 06:08.22 | sysop2 | whats the name of the kde rss reader that stays down in the task bar? |
| 06:09.49 | shanky | I've been googling, but I can't find how to add an action to klipper to open urls with Opera |
| 06:09.53 | shanky | any idea? |
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| 06:13.40 | moshe | hi, is there a way to configure kio ftp, like maximum number of connections? |
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| 06:34.29 | Dumble | hello world ! |
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| 06:35.08 | Jucato | return 0; |
| 06:36.35 | Dumble | kernel panic |
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| 06:54.07 | bgmiki | huh I can't open azureus ...something wrong with gtk app in KDE4 |
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| 07:02.40 | Rasi | bgmiki: probably some messed up gtkrc file |
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| 07:02.45 | Rasi | whats the exact error |
| 07:03.08 | dyllan | hi all. Can anyone tell me what file KDE keeps the default filetype associations in? |
| 07:03.18 | bgmiki | i can't find in konsole |
| 07:03.30 | bgmiki | only azureus is problem |
| 07:03.36 | Rasi | bgmiki: azureus is no gtk app, btw |
| 07:03.37 | Rasi | its java |
| 07:03.53 | bgmiki | lol.... |
| 07:04.58 | bgmiki | best I have power cpu...Q6600.after 2 min azureus start |
| 07:05.11 | Rasi | java... |
| 07:05.13 | Rasi | :P |
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| 07:05.33 | Rasi | you should try ktorrent (gui) or rtorrent (console) |
| 07:05.46 | jazka | ktorrent > azureus |
| 07:05.53 | jazka | azureus == a resource hog |
| 07:06.05 | bgmiki | use Az 3 years...hard to change with ktorrent |
| 07:06.08 | Rasi | since azureus' issue with collecting your data i dont trust the project anymore |
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| 07:07.32 | bgmiki | stupid i login in gnome and everything ok...but KDE4.1 ..grrr |
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| 07:13.27 | bgmiki | ah I find what is wrong -swich off all specific settings kwin for Az and now Az start normal |
| 07:13.28 | bgmiki | :) |
| 07:16.13 | bgmiki | ktorrent> azureus ...lol |
| 07:16.28 | jazka | ? |
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| 08:30.26 | dyllan | Hi all, could someone tell me what file kontact/kmail keep my filetype prferences in? For example when i open a .tiff i right-clicked and said "open-with" and selected my desired application, and now it remembers it, i would just like to know where that information is stored? - thanks. |
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| 08:47.14 | blauzahl__ | sysop2: Akregator and its ported to 4 |
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| 08:49.41 | blauzahl__ | dyllan: i bet its something under .kde4 and is probably system level |
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| 09:53.16 | Rasi | can i install localisation packages manually? |
| 09:53.23 | Rasi | i guess its just a set of txt files? |
| 09:53.32 | Rasi | because my distro doesnt ship those |
| 09:54.13 | PhilRod | you'll probably need to compile them to machine-readable format |
| 09:54.22 | PhilRod | but you should be able to install them manually |
| 09:54.56 | Rasi | compiling text? |
| 09:55.19 | pinotree | Rasi: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/Building_KDE's_l10n_Module |
| 09:55.43 | pinotree | and yes, they need to be compiled, if you don't want every translation call to be a slowdown |
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| 10:02.55 | yacc | Is there some tool that kills konquerors that memory leak to death? |
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| 10:04.03 | yacc | I'm not exactly sure what it is that makes konq balloon, but leaving it open on a refreshing page (hadoop job tracker), I end up with 1.6GB processes over night, and worse >1GB of these are resident. |
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| 10:07.12 | Rasi | damn |
| 10:07.19 | Rasi | pinotree: that tutorial doesnt work :( |
| 10:07.32 | Rasi | carnager@freebox $ ./scripts/autogen.sh de |
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| 10:07.39 | Rasi | gives me lots of no such file errors |
| 10:07.48 | Rasi | and says "de no known command" |
| 10:08.07 | pinotree | how did you download? |
| 10:08.15 | Rasi | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/Building_KDE's_l10n_Module |
| 10:08.19 | Rasi | thats what i did |
| 10:08.20 | pinotree | ... |
| 10:08.22 | Rasi | so using svn |
| 10:08.28 | Rasi | then running those 3 scripts |
| 10:08.36 | Rasi | but the 2nd scripts gives me those errors |
| 10:08.46 | pinotree | cd l10n; ls |
| 10:09.05 | Rasi | carnager@freebox $ ls |
| 10:09.05 | Rasi | README scripts/ subdirs teamnames templates/ x-test/ |
| 10:09.22 | pinotree | you did not download a language, of course |
| 10:10.14 | Rasi | argh |
| 10:10.21 | Rasi | that line is missing in the wiki :P |
| 10:10.26 | pinotree | nope |
| 10:10.39 | pinotree | "svn up de" â |
| 10:10.47 | Rasi | ooops |
| 10:10.49 | Rasi | now i see it |
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| 10:10.53 | Rasi | slaps himself |
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| 10:13.34 | Jucato | misread that as "svn up die" :) |
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| 10:21.37 | Rasi | the wiki should mention imake as a dependency |
| 10:21.46 | Rasi | (it offers revpath command) |
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| 11:17.47 | ASIRIneiluj | hi |
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| 11:18.21 | ASIRIneiluj | I'd like to know how to set a X.509 certificate as trusted in kleopatra (a root certificate) |
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| 11:30.07 | Guest10954 | Are Kopete support IRC right now? |
| 11:30.16 | annma | what kde version? |
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| 11:30.53 | Guest10954 | 4 |
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| 11:31.09 | Half-Left | Not in 4 no |
| 11:31.11 | Guest10954 | gflash was left. |
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| 11:32.52 | Half-Left | wonders why he hasn't got any gwenview plugins after building 4 trunk |
| 11:34.48 | Fujisan | annma |
| 11:34.59 | Fujisan | annma so sorry about les Blues :( |
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| 11:35.23 | annma | ;) the referer was harsh |
| 11:35.33 | annma | not new with Italia |
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| 11:36.03 | ed | hi how can i arrange widgets in kde4? |
| 11:36.25 | annma | you remove them and re-add them in the pael |
| 11:36.28 | annma | panel |
| 11:36.35 | ed | no other way? |
| 11:36.37 | annma | Fujisan: I support Turkish now |
| 11:36.42 | kdepepo | ed, or you use openSUSE packages ;) |
| 11:36.53 | annma | ed: use Suse or Fedora is the other way |
| 11:37.15 | Guest10954 | There is no show desktop button in KDE 4.0 |
| 11:37.36 | annma | it's a plasmoid Guest10954 called MinimizeAll |
| 11:37.55 | annma | and it might eat CPU if put in the panel |
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| 11:38.22 | Guest10954 | Hmm... I see. |
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| 11:38.41 | ed | hmmm k thx (using kubuntu), will it be possible to arrange them in a further release? |
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| 11:43.59 | kdepepo | ed, hopefully in 4.1 |
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| 11:46.42 | ed | k thx |
| 11:47.22 | ed | anyway KDE is great thx a lot guys !! |
| 11:48.56 | Fujisan | is there an equivalent to osx automator for KDE ? |
| 11:50.07 | serzholino | maybe kommander |
| 11:50.12 | Fujisan | kommander? |
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| 11:52.36 | Fujisan | kewl thanks |
| 11:52.47 | Fujisan | can i download scripts for kommander serzholino? |
| 11:54.20 | kdepepo | Fujisan, http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=288 |
| 11:55.45 | Fujisan | thanks |
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| 11:58.13 | Waistless | hi, not sure if this is opensuse specific, but with opensuse 11 kde4, I can't get the time and date to sync to the time server when I apply the settings, it just says "unable to contact time server." anything I can do? |
| 11:59.14 | Waistless | it says it contacts ntp.pool.org |
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| 12:04.48 | Half-Left | Anyone know why I dont get plugins in gwenview KDE4 truck from SVN? |
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| 12:07.27 | Jucato | Half-Left: kipi-plugins? |
| 12:07.38 | Half-Left | Jucato, yer |
| 12:08.07 | Jucato | do you have kipi-plugins? |
| 12:08.14 | Half-Left | Jucato, The kipi supposed to be part of kdegraphics now |
| 12:08.26 | Jucato | um.. |
| 12:08.44 | Jucato | you might be confusing libkipi with kipi-plugins |
| 12:09.24 | Jucato | and I don't even think that kipi is "supposed to be part of kdegraphics" |
| 12:09.43 | Half-Left | Jucato, ahhh yer, I dont see the plugins in there and I'll need the 0.2.0 version as I well from svn I bet |
| 12:10.02 | Jucato | extragear/graphics |
| 12:10.13 | Half-Left | No it moved from there |
| 12:10.53 | Half-Left | libkipi and it's componets are in kdegraphics trunk now |
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| 12:12.34 | Jucato | ... |
| 12:12.41 | Jucato | <Jucato> you might be confusing libkipi with kipi-plugins |
| 12:12.50 | Jucato | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/graphics/kipi-plugins/ |
| 12:13.05 | Anonycat | Why can't I make the panel (K menu) icon any smaller than 72x72? |
| 12:13.35 | Half-Left | Jucato, Yer the plugins are there still, just saying the libs are in kdegraphics now :) |
| 12:13.47 | Half-Left | thnaks |
| 12:13.50 | Half-Left | thanks* |
| 12:14.46 | Ambient | anyone know where I might get some help building google gadgets for kde 3.5? |
| 12:15.37 | sandsmark | #google |
| 12:15.58 | annma | Ambient: you can't |
| 12:16.07 | Ambient | annma: why? :P |
| 12:16.09 | Half-Left | Jucato, Would you recommend kdesuport going to /usr or like all the others /usr/lib/kde4 ? |
| 12:16.25 | Ambient | if I just link against kde 4 libs, do I actually _have_ to run plasma too? |
| 12:16.27 | annma | Ambient: because they don't support Linux? |
| 12:16.33 | Ambient | um... they do |
| 12:16.37 | Ambient | like about week ago |
| 12:16.49 | Ambient | http://code.google.com/p/google-gadgets-for-linux/ |
| 12:16.50 | annma | linking is not running |
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| 12:17.13 | Ambient | eh.. yes but after it gets linked it can be run |
| 12:17.24 | Ambient | I'm just wondering if it actually needs a running instance of plasma to work right |
| 12:17.29 | annma | running is something else |
| 12:17.42 | annma | you don't need plasma for running kdelibs4-linked apps |
| 12:17.51 | annma | like: I run kde4 apps in kde3 |
| 12:17.59 | annma | it |
| 12:18.01 | Ambient | yes you don't, but if the app is bound to plasma API it needs plasma |
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| 12:18.05 | annma | what it "it" |
| 12:18.06 | Ambient | that is what I don't know at the moment |
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| 12:18.17 | annma | plasma needs plasma |
| 12:18.50 | Ambient | well that's besides the point, I'm trying to get google gadgets and kde 3.5 to work together |
| 12:19.05 | annma | plasma is not in kde3.5 |
| 12:19.12 | Ambient | I'm aware of that |
| 12:19.13 | annma | kde3.5 is not kde4 |
| 12:19.19 | sandsmark | Ambient: may I suggest a quick switch to KDE 4? |
| 12:19.21 | sandsmark | =) |
| 12:19.28 | sandsmark | 4.1 is getting quite stable |
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| 12:19.41 | Ambient | sandsmark: heh.. but no thanks. I have a very functional desktop setup with 3.5... I mean very. like I love it |
| 12:19.44 | annma | and it has widgets, gadgets, whatever-get |
| 12:19.52 | Ambient | kde 4 is still sadly not complete with my standards |
| 12:20.00 | sandsmark | Ambient: I also had a very functional 3.5 desktop, and it got even better with KDE 4 =) |
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| 12:20.03 | annma | Ambient: but yet you are ready to all break it for a flower? |
| 12:20.18 | sandsmark | Ambient: what is missing "for you" in kde 4.1? |
| 12:20.32 | Ambient | sandsmark: good question |
| 12:20.45 | sandsmark | I have all the apps I use ported, more or less |
| 12:20.52 | annma | and why don't you download this google linux thing and try it |
| 12:21.05 | annma | it never says you need kde4, does it? |
| 12:21.17 | Ambient | mostly I think it's UI cohesiveness, things working together. and the fact that I use nvidia drivers which are very very slow with qt4 =) |
| 12:21.23 | Fujisan | is there an equivalent to GNOME Do for KDE? |
| 12:21.25 | kdepepo | ability to autohide panel is needed :) |
| 12:21.26 | Ambient | annma: I have |
| 12:21.33 | Ambient | annma: but I can't get it to ./configure |
| 12:21.38 | sandsmark | Fujisan: yes, krunner |
| 12:21.59 | sandsmark | Fujisan: as in the thing that pops up at ALT+F2, WIN+R, or whatever you map it to |
| 12:22.06 | sandsmark | it's is even better than gnome-do, imho |
| 12:22.28 | annma | Ambient: #google |
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| 12:22.50 | Ambient | annma: wrong, I went there and they said "this is not a support channel" in the heading |
| 12:23.10 | sandsmark | it certainly isn't a KDE problem |
| 12:24.03 | Ambient | well it kinda is, becaues I'm talking about getting a KDE native app working right |
| 12:24.13 | annma | Ambient: so where is the support channel? |
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| 12:24.49 | Half-Left | gah, kipi-plugins in is extragear is not seeing libkipi that I just installed from kdegraphics to the same prefix |
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| 12:25.19 | Anonycat | If I started a KDE session on 4.0.4, and upgraded the packages to 4.0.5 over the course of that session, is that likely to cause miscommunication issues? |
| 12:25.30 | sandsmark | Ambient: that some google code doesn't work has absolutely nothing to do with KDE |
| 12:25.42 | *** topic/#kde by annma -> This is not Google support channel | KDE 4.1 beta 1 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | Help writing KDE docs: #kde-docs | Bug Squashers in #kde-bugs | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde | http://software-libre.rudd-o.c |
| 12:25.53 | annma | Ambient: look at topic |
| 12:25.56 | sandsmark | annma: =) |
| 12:26.09 | Ambient | well, ok |
| 12:26.20 | Ambient | :/ |
| 12:26.44 | *** topic/#kde by annma -> KDE 4.1 beta 1 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | Help writing KDE docs: #kde-docs | Bug Squashers in #kde-bugs | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde | http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ |
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| 12:27.02 | Half-Left | gets scared when annma gets operator status |
| 12:27.13 | Anurag | is qpl compatible with gpl |
| 12:27.19 | sandsmark | Anurag: GPL is |
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| 12:27.34 | sandsmark | Anurag: I don't know of anything that's under QPL that isn't also under GPL |
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| 12:27.42 | annma | here Half-Left |
| 12:27.45 | Half-Left | :) |
| 12:27.45 | Ambient | I'm not going to share my qtbench with you guys anymore because it isn't a kde issue :| |
| 12:27.46 | annma | fear no more! |
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| 12:27.55 | fred | sandsmark: jpgraph |
| 12:28.08 | annma | Ambient: exactly |
| 12:28.18 | annma | if it's a qt bench, share with Qt |
| 12:28.18 | sandsmark | Ambient: try #qt =) |
| 12:28.27 | sandsmark | there's lots of active people there |
| 12:28.28 | fred | sandsmark: newer versions of jpgraph (a PHP graph library) are QPL-only :p |
| 12:28.32 | sandsmark | heh |
| 12:28.33 | annma | with the Trollkia |
| 12:29.31 | kdepepo | Notech? |
| 12:29.44 | annma | :) |
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| 12:36.41 | Half-Left | Is there a file where is shows what plasma applets start up? |
| 12:37.19 | jazka | plasma-appletsrc |
| 12:37.28 | jazka | in $KDEHOME/.kde/share/config/ |
| 12:37.33 | jazka | oop |
| 12:37.34 | jazka | s |
| 12:37.37 | jazka | $KDEHOME/share/config/ |
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| 12:37.45 | Half-Left | thanks, I know where you mean :) |
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| 12:39.29 | Half-Left | I've got a rogue applets starting up, maybe that RSS Now one I had installed sometime back |
| 12:39.55 | Half-Left | phet, kmldonkey as I remember |
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| 12:45.15 | mastamind | hi. korganizer tells me "No writable resource was found, saving will not be possible. Reconfigure KMail first." but i have already configured kmail. i am using kde 3.5.9. |
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| 12:54.26 | Half-Left | libkipi is not installing from kdegraphics 4 trunk |
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| 12:55.13 | Half-Left | annma, Is that a issue you know of? ^ |
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| 12:57.38 | annma | Half-Left: - Up-to-date: /usr/local/kde4/lib/libkipi.so |
| 12:57.46 | annma | for me it installs OK |
| 12:57.55 | annma | from kdegraphics/libs |
| 12:58.02 | Half-Left | annma, I dont even have that in kde4/libs |
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| 12:58.16 | Half-Left | I just installed kdegraphics as well |
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| 12:58.29 | pinotree | Half-Left: what is the *real* problem? |
| 12:58.30 | Half-Left | Thats why kipi-plugins is not finding it |
| 12:58.40 | annma | Half-Left: ??? |
| 12:58.46 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:58.57 | Half-Left | pinotree, I want kipi-plugins for gwenview |
| 12:59.02 | annma | Half-Left: in kdegraphics/libs |
| 12:59.21 | annma | Half-Left: cd in src dir kdegraphics/libs and ls |
| 12:59.24 | pinotree | the support is compiled automatically; the plugins are in trunk/extragear/graphics |
| 12:59.26 | Half-Left | annma, Yer I just installed that but it's not installing kipi for some reason |
| 12:59.41 | pinotree | ?? |
| 12:59.55 | annma | pinotree: kipi is in kdegraphics now |
| 13:00.05 | pinotree | i know, i moved it there!! |
| 13:00.05 | mschulz | hello. On KDE 4.0.82 when I enable wobbly windows *and* shadows, shadow is not wobbling |
| 13:00.06 | Half-Left | libkipi is in kdegraphics.libs trunk right? |
| 13:00.16 | pinotree | yes |
| 13:00.43 | Half-Left | ok, so I compiled that as usual but it's not installing libkipi for some reason |
| 13:00.49 | annma | Half-Left: so what is installed from libs? |
| 13:00.50 | boom1992 | mschulz: known I guess |
| 13:01.00 | mschulz | boom1992: ok |
| 13:01.03 | pinotree | Half-Left: how are you installing? |
| 13:01.16 | Half-Left | pinotree, The usual way from trunk |
| 13:01.42 | pinotree | can you paste the "make install" log, please? |
| 13:01.52 | Half-Left | cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4 |
| 13:02.03 | Half-Left | sure |
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| 13:04.02 | Half-Left | pinotree, Where is that file? |
| 13:04.09 | pinotree | ? |
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| 13:05.09 | annma | Half-Left: type "make install" and copy/paste from konsole |
| 13:06.47 | Half-Left | sorry one sec |
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| 13:09.19 | Half-Left | annma, pinotree, sorry it's my stupid fault, seems somehow a extra few letters got put on the prefix and installed to a different directory |
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| 13:10.04 | Half-Left | is embarrassed |
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| 13:13.59 | Rasi | hmmm |
| 13:14.07 | Rasi | i installed krusader for kde4 yesterday |
| 13:14.12 | Rasi | it works fine |
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| 13:14.25 | Rasi | but since then everytime i log into kde, i get 3 krusader instances |
| 13:14.29 | Rasi | kde's autostart is emtpy |
| 13:14.35 | Rasi | carnager@freebox $ find . -name krusader |
| 13:14.38 | Rasi | ./.kdemod/share/apps/krusader |
| 13:14.42 | Rasi | and there doesnt seem to be anything in my homedir |
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| 13:18.33 | Half-Left | annma, Install them in the correct directory, libs are there but when I compile extragear it's not picking up libkipi, kdcraw |
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| 13:22.01 | annma | Half-Left: look in CMakeCache.txt |
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| 13:23.37 | Half-Left | annma, Of extragear? |
| 13:24.46 | annma | yes |
| 13:24.52 | Half-Left | /Path to a file.KIPI_LOCAL_FOUND:FILEPATH=KIPI_LOCAL_FOUND-NOTFOUND |
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| 13:29.47 | hunt0r | where I can get the nepomuksearch kio slave? |
| 13:29.54 | hunt0r | its look cool ^^ |
| 13:31.21 | Half-Left | annma, Should I put the direct path to libkipi in the CMAKECache.txt? |
| 13:31.50 | annma | no |
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| 13:32.25 | pinotree | try to remove the CMakeCache.txt, and rerun cmake |
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| 13:32.35 | Half-Left | Tried it, same thing |
| 13:33.07 | Half-Left | Just get "KDE CMake PKGCONFIG macro indicates that libkipi is not installed on your computer." |
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| 13:34.58 | friedrich| | hunt0r: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/nepomuk-kde/ |
| 13:35.11 | hunt0r | thx |
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| 13:50.30 | padde | hm... kde 4.1 beta 1 doesn't log out... and when i press ctrl-alt-backspace after waiting an eternity, all the panel / widgets settings are forgotten :( i can't even go on testing the beta like that... |
| 13:51.43 | Half-Left | padde, What theme do you use, the default? |
| 13:51.49 | padde | Half-Left: yes |
| 13:52.30 | Half-Left | padde, Well it's fixed in trunk so beta2 should be here very soon, I had the same issue |
| 13:53.04 | Half-Left | padde, You get the gray fade screen and it says like that? |
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| 13:53.12 | Half-Left | stays* |
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| 13:53.20 | padde | Half-Left: i see. thanks for the info. then i'll wait for beta2 for further testing... not so much fun losing all settings every time you log out ;) |
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| 13:53.43 | Half-Left | I know what you mean |
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| 13:53.47 | padde | Half-Left: no, it fades to gray, then some hdd activity, then i just have a mouse cursor (which i can move) on black background... stays like that forever |
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| 13:54.45 | Half-Left | padde, Doesn't happen to me anymore and i'm using trunk so thats a good sign for beta2 :) |
| 13:55.50 | padde | Half-Left: i see... perhaps i build trunk tonight and go on testing tomorrow... |
| 13:56.04 | Half-Left | Yer, a good idea |
| 13:56.17 | Half-Left | I got bugs fixed because of it so |
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| 14:26.12 | ellen | hoi? |
| 14:26.51 | ellen | Wat de neuk is dit? |
| 14:26.58 | flea | is there a kopete newer than 0.50.1 now? |
| 14:27.15 | ellen | uhmm... |
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| 14:28.29 | ellen | I'm still using kopete 0.11.1 |
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| 14:32.00 | flea | 0.12.7 on this box ... rock solid |
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| 14:34.01 | ellen | bye |
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| 14:41.01 | vinnie_ | need help... When i go to pcc and click (Boot) and choose "Select a graphical theme to display during boot" then click "Create new theme" the editor window is to tall, and wont resize. So I cant see the buttons at the bottom. Does anyone else have the same issue? Here is a screenshot. http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1173/snapshot2ds0.jpg Im using PCLOS KDE 359 |
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| 14:42.52 | BCMM | is there a way to have a filter bar in konqueror? |
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| 14:48.29 | Jucato | vinnie_: #pclinuxos please (or wherever their channel is) |
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| 14:52.25 | psteyn | THE SAND PEOPLE ALWAYS WALK IN SINGLE FILE TO HIDE THEIR NUMBERS. |
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| 14:53.15 | lparry | J |
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| 14:53.54 | lparry | I'm having rendering glitches with plasma from svn, does anyone have idea what it could be from |
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| 14:54.03 | lparry | I've got a feeling it's just my graphics card |
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| 14:55.03 | annma | what glitches? are they new? |
| 14:55.19 | annma | new like not in 4.0.x and present in trunk? |
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| 14:56.36 | lparry | annma: to be honest I have't tried in the 4.0.x |
| 14:56.58 | annma | so what are those glitches? |
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| 14:57.07 | localh0s1 | Yo |
| 14:57.15 | lparry | well it's most prominent on the taskbar / main panel |
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| 14:57.26 | localh0s1 | Can i use "normal" icons on my KDE 4.1? |
| 14:57.34 | lparry | it'll going black and disappear |
| 14:57.41 | lparry | until you move your mouse over it |
| 14:57.50 | localh0s1 | (i deosnt want widgets) |
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| 14:58.27 | lparry | and rarely I get occasions where some parts specifically the kmenu, will be messed up pink |
| 14:58.32 | lparry | I should have screenshots really to show |
| 14:59.57 | annma | what nvidia drivers? |
| 15:00.10 | lparry | yes with nvidia blob driver |
| 15:00.20 | lparry | which is why I'm expecting it's their fault |
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| 15:03.25 | annma | does not know what is blob |
| 15:03.41 | annma | also has nvidia drivers |
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| 15:03.59 | olle-wp | annma: "sourceless blob", a module or object file with no source |
| 15:04.02 | Ambient | btw is there a way to make the k-menu start icon any wider? |
| 15:04.08 | Ambient | in kde 3.5 |
| 15:04.24 | Jucato | annma: blob usually referring to proprietary/closed source kernel module/driver |
| 15:04.40 | olle-wp | Ambient: you can make the panel higher, that would make every icon wider |
| 15:04.45 | localh0s1 | How How i can make item on desktop (cut?) to program? |
| 15:04.53 | localh0s1 | (on kde 4.1() |
| 15:05.04 | Ambient | olle-wp: yeah, i have the panel on the lowest setting and want to keep it there, only thing I need is kmenu start icon to grow in length |
| 15:05.28 | annma | lparry: I also use proprietary drivers, what is your version? |
| 15:05.28 | lparry | annma: nvidia drivers (gentoo) |
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| 15:05.31 | olle-wp | Ambient: don't know. |
| 15:05.36 | annma | gentoo, hmmm |
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| 15:05.43 | annma | #gentoo-kde |
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| 15:05.56 | lparry | let me get the version first |
| 15:06.07 | annma | I for sure see the panel and the applets |
| 15:06.08 | lparry | 173.14.05 |
| 15:06.26 | olle-wp | Jucato: i forgot that blobs were in kernel space. but a blob could as well be in X, right? |
| 15:06.45 | annma | 169-12 here |
| 15:06.55 | lparry | did i mention it doesn't happen all the time |
| 15:07.30 | Jucato | olle-wp: not really sure about the technical distinction, but I don't think X has "blobs" in the sense of proprietary modules |
| 15:08.28 | lparry | I think it happens more when kwin effects are on ie. composite |
| 15:08.50 | olle-wp | Jucato: i thought graphics drivers integrated with X rather than the kernel |
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| 15:09.29 | lemmaway | olle-wp: both |
| 15:09.44 | annma | lparry: if I was you I'd ask on #gentoo-kde where Gentoo people are specialized in KDE |
| 15:09.45 | lemmaway | olle-wp: at least if they are blobby :) |
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| 15:10.10 | lparry | annma: okay, I'll ask them later |
| 15:10.17 | flea | lparry: i have the same with 4.0.3 |
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| 15:10.37 | lparry | ah right, are you with gentoo? |
| 15:10.43 | flea | lparry: nvidia drivers, dont have version on hand... yes gentoo |
| 15:10.50 | flea | its my home machine |
| 15:10.56 | lparry | ah okay |
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| 15:11.00 | flea | was going to update to 4.1b tonight to see for a diff |
| 15:11.15 | Jucato | olle-wp: yeah, but technically they are kernel modules afaik.. |
| 15:11.18 | Jucato | anyway.. I'm gone |
| 15:11.27 | lparry | flea: what's your graphics card? |
| 15:11.31 | lparry | mine's integrated |
| 15:12.15 | flea | lparry: igp 6150 |
| 15:12.34 | localh0s1 | Helooooo |
| 15:12.42 | localh0s1 | Someony know KDE 4? |
| 15:14.03 | lparry | flea: humm, well mines a 7050, but it could be just under powered |
| 15:14.23 | lparry | as it can barely play games in windows, even three year old ones only on low |
| 15:14.26 | flea | lparry: i doubt it has anything to do with the card physically |
| 15:14.32 | annma | localh0s1: just ask your question |
| 15:14.39 | flea | lparry: and using windows as a benchmark is not viable |
| 15:14.50 | localh0s1 | annma: how to move widgets on panel? |
| 15:14.52 | lparry | flea: maybe so, It could be with gentoo itself |
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| 15:15.02 | annma | localh0s1: you remove them then you re-add them |
| 15:15.21 | flea | lparry: u are talking about the artifacts/clearing of gfx in regions etc.. right? |
| 15:15.23 | localh0s1 | But when i do it, my new widgets are add to end of panel |
| 15:15.36 | annma | drop them where you want them to be |
| 15:15.45 | lparry | flea: yes |
| 15:15.46 | flea | localh0s1: i add widgets to the bar in the order i want them to appear, from left to right |
| 15:16.13 | localh0s1 | But when i do it, my widgets always are added to end of panel |
| 15:16.14 | localh0s1 | : |
| 15:16.15 | localh0s1 | :/ |
| 15:16.36 | flea | localh0s1: are u starting off by ensuring no widgets are applied to the bar? |
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| 15:16.59 | localh0s1 | Yes |
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| 15:17.39 | vinnie_ | Jucato: They sent me here |
| 15:17.59 | Absolute0 | Is it possible to obtain a tarball of any of the kde sources without svn? |
| 15:18.11 | Absolute0 | I only seem to find the binaries. |
| 15:18.22 | annma | vinnie_: who? what channel? |
| 15:18.25 | Jucato | vinnie_: but it's *their* app |
| 15:18.26 | hunt0r | hmm is there anything I can do about that dolphin freezes fpr a while when I select a large archive files? |
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| 15:18.41 | annma | hunt0r: no |
| 15:18.42 | Jucato | <vinnie_> need help... When i go to pcc and click (Boot) and choose "Select a graphical theme to display during boot" then click "Create new theme" the editor window is to tall, and wont resize. So I cant see the buttons at the bottom. Does anyone else have the same issue? Here is a screenshot. http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1173/snapshot2ds0.jpg Im using PCLOS KDE 359 |
| 15:18.43 | localh0s1 | Oh |
| 15:18.44 | Jucato | annma: ^^^^ |
| 15:18.56 | annma | PCLOS??? |
| 15:19.07 | localh0s1 | I did make new widget on desktop, and i drop it on panel |
| 15:19.12 | localh0s1 | Now all are ok |
| 15:19.15 | localh0s1 | :) |
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| 15:19.20 | flea | pc linux os |
| 15:19.27 | annma | vinnie_: what is th echannel? |
| 15:19.27 | hunt0r | annma: hmm kk |
| 15:19.32 | flea | its a distro |
| 15:19.37 | Jucato | annma: I told him to go to #pclinuxos |
| 15:19.42 | Jucato | (him/her) |
| 15:19.42 | flea | ah lol |
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| 15:19.57 | annma | Jucato: yes |
| 15:20.02 | vinnie_ | #pclinuxos-support |
| 15:20.07 | vinnie_ | they sent me here |
| 15:20.18 | annma | really |
| 15:20.20 | Jucato | well apparently they don't know how to support their own custom tools :) |
| 15:20.25 | localh0s1 | KDE 4.1 is so fast, good work |
| 15:20.31 | localh0s1 | Any developer here? |
| 15:20.43 | annma | reask in #pclinuxos vinnie_ |
| 15:20.46 | annma | localh0s1: sure |
| 15:20.52 | localh0s1 | You? |
| 15:20.52 | localh0s1 | :D |
| 15:20.53 | Jucato | hides annma |
| 15:20.56 | Jucato | no one |
| 15:21.01 | Jucato | whistles innocently |
| 15:21.03 | localh0s1 | :] |
| 15:21.08 | annma | in support |
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| 15:21.41 | vinnie_ | annma: does drak splash have a chanel? |
| 15:22.44 | annma | vinnie_: what is drakspalsh??? |
| 15:22.51 | annma | localh0s1: what's up? |
| 15:22.53 | localh0s1 | July is date when KDE 4.1 will be stable, final version? |
| 15:22.59 | Jucato | annma: the tool he was referring to :) |
| 15:23.08 | localh0s1 | annma: are You develop? |
| 15:23.10 | localh0s1 | er |
| 15:23.14 | Jucato | localh0s1: end of July to narrow it down |
| 15:23.16 | annma | Jucato: yes I saw the pic, but do you know it Jucato? |
| 15:23.19 | vinnie_ | its a boot splash creator |
| 15:23.19 | jazka | oh nice, kde4.1 saves no konsole instances on every desktop \o/ |
| 15:23.22 | jazka | now* |
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| 15:23.43 | Jucato | annma: apparently it's a boot splash theme manager/creator... for pclinuxos.... |
| 15:24.14 | Jucato | vinnie_: sorry to tell you this but they *should* know their own tools... maybe they have a specific channel for that tool (though I doubt it) |
| 15:24.22 | annma | yup, I am triggering them into action |
| 15:24.33 | Jucato | annma: btw, pclos, being (formerly?) based on mandriva, seem to adapt the drak* naming :) |
| 15:24.37 | vinnie_ | Jucato: thanx |
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| 15:24.52 | Jucato | annma: don't you mean spanking them into action? :P |
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| 15:25.16 | annma | hehe |
| 15:26.25 | annma | they will NEVER send someone here anymore |
| 15:27.19 | Jucato | did they say that? |
| 15:27.31 | annma | lol, no but they will think it soon |
| 15:27.45 | Jucato | hahaha |
| 15:27.51 | Jucato | is that what you did in #sabayon too? :P |
| 15:28.14 | Jucato | well it's not bad to send people here for generic KDE help of course... but sheesh it's their tool mucking up :) |
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| 15:40.51 | hunt0r | annma: you cant give me a hint how can I fix that problem with dolphin myself in the source or? ^^ |
| 15:41.53 | jazka | can anyone reproduce this, disabling and re-enabling desktop effects, kwin starts to use 50% of cpu, need to logout and login to fix it :S |
| 15:41.54 | annma | hunt0r: first look at bugs.kde.org |
| 15:42.13 | annma | hunt0r: find the bug report, look if it's fixed or what's written in it |
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| 15:43.11 | Half-Left | jazka, You dont have VSync on by any chance? |
| 15:43.14 | hunt0r | annma: ok I will do that thx |
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| 15:43.40 | _julian | hi all |
| 15:43.46 | jazka | Half-Left: yes I do |
| 15:44.05 | Half-Left | jazka, Turn it off because thats most lightly the course |
| 15:44.09 | _julian | can someone tell me how to restart kded4 if it crashes? - just executing kded4 blocks the whole desktop... |
| 15:45.08 | jazka | Half-Left: doesn't help...it's still laggy, even kquitapp kwin;kwin & doesn't fix it |
| 15:45.16 | jazka | dunno if it's an nvidia problem |
| 15:45.32 | Half-Left | restart kwin with VSync off |
| 15:45.37 | jazka | I did |
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| 15:46.27 | Half-Left | kwin still using loads of CPU? |
| 15:46.30 | jazka | yes |
| 15:46.37 | jazka | and if I change to xrender, it goes down |
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| 15:46.46 | jazka | but when changing back to opengl, cpu usage climbs to 50-80% |
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| 15:47.35 | Half-Left | jazka, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154270 |
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| 15:48.04 | jazka | let's see |
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| 15:49.51 | Half-Left | I added about VSync near the bottom |
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| 15:54.41 | jazka | yep, it's the Vsync doing it...I logged out and back in without the vsync on, and now disabling and re-enabling the effects works |
| 15:54.57 | Half-Left | cool |
| 15:54.59 | jazka | but it's nice with vsync, no tearing on the windows, well this is enough tho, for now |
| 15:55.04 | jazka | nicer |
| 15:55.07 | Half-Left | yer true |
| 15:55.31 | jazka | only thing that bugs me, is watching videos on my TV with effects enabled, there's annoying horizontal sync lines visible |
| 15:55.38 | jazka | that's why I need to disable them always |
| 15:56.03 | jazka | haven't tried if it's the same with compiz |
| 15:56.56 | jazka | that's probably a nvidia driver problem though |
| 15:57.54 | Half-Left | maybe |
| 15:59.22 | daskreech | localh0s1: Kinda |
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| 16:01.15 | shevy | hey |
| 16:01.41 | shevy | does kde4 have a dedicated www-browser similar to firefox? or has this stopped |
| 16:01.53 | jazka | konqueror |
| 16:02.09 | shevy | ok |
| 16:03.03 | oelewapperke | not similar ... better :-p |
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| 16:04.02 | daskreech | oelewapperke: :-P |
| 16:04.05 | daskreech | Extensions rock |
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| 16:04.26 | shevy | well i always felt that konqueror in 3 was always second to both firefox and opera in behaviour and quality |
| 16:04.31 | shevy | 3 / kde3 |
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| 16:05.14 | shevy | thus i was wondering whether... you guys would have dumped it altogether perhaps q:> |
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| 16:07.04 | oelewapperke | shevy: firefox is still a memory leak |
| 16:07.20 | oelewapperke | opening a few tabs gets you 400 meg mem usage without blinking |
| 16:07.43 | shevy | hey oelewapperke |
| 16:07.46 | oelewapperke | it slows down at the most idiotic points (e.g. ever tried a dns lookup in firefox with winzip extracting something in the background ?) |
| 16:07.56 | shevy | guess why i asked too, imagine if there is less and less competition for firefox |
| 16:08.04 | shevy | it will get crappier much faster than it already does :) |
| 16:08.15 | shevy | (my biggest complaint is with its crashes though) |
| 16:08.34 | oelewapperke | for me it's the utterly ridiculous memory usage |
| 16:09.10 | shevy | also one difference is... i feel as if the mozilla team is 100x away from me compared to the kde team |
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| 16:10.28 | oelewapperke | I wouldn't mind that one ... the firefox bug reports read -at times- like the #under16andlonely channel on undernet |
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| 16:11.30 | shevy | hehe |
| 16:11.38 | shevy | when it crashes, you get that thing where you can report to the mozilla team |
| 16:11.52 | shevy | i just click on "restart ff" because it happens so frequently that i gave up doing any reports on it |
| 16:12.16 | oelewapperke | since kcachegrind kde has really made progress on the speed and crashing front |
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| 16:12.58 | oelewapperke | then again konqueror is just about the least stable part of it |
| 16:13.07 | oelewapperke | especially with flash type sites |
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| 16:26.09 | biagidp | I'm using KDE in ubuntu 8.04. I've got two monitors and kde is recognizing them as one giant monitor. How do I get it to recognize them as two seperate monitors |
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| 16:29.16 | fde | biagidp: #kubuntu |
| 16:30.03 | biagidp | fde: yeah, I realized that would be a better place and am already getting help |
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| 16:44.25 | shane2peru | does anyone know of a quick and effecient way to delete the excessive amount of tags in digikam? |
| 16:46.18 | jazka | Half-Left: heh, it didn't solve it, I just re-enabled desktop effects after watching a video, and cpu usage went up :) |
| 16:46.31 | jazka | maybe something in my nvidia-settings, I ran that too |
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| 16:49.35 | Half-Left | jazka, I dont know, maybe they will find the issue out, it's been reopened |
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| 16:49.47 | filo1234 | hi to all, is possible to open link browser from konsole, without make cut and paste on browser? |
| 16:50.04 | jazka | yup, I ran compiz and after that back to kwin, that fixed it, without logging out, weird |
| 16:50.33 | Prof_Frink | filo1234: KDE4's konsole can do that. |
| 16:51.10 | filo1234 | Prof_Frink: i have kde 3.5 isn't possible make it? |
| 16:51.51 | jazka | not that I know |
| 16:52.03 | jazka | you can use the kde4 konsole on kde 3.5 just fine :) |
| 16:53.38 | filo1234 | jazka: is an idea...have a wiki for upgrade kosole? or i make compiling it? |
| 16:54.21 | jazka | what distro are you using? |
| 16:54.31 | filo1234 | kubuntu hardy |
| 16:54.36 | jazka | there's packages for it |
| 16:54.43 | jazka | sudo apt-get install konsole-kde4 |
| 16:54.45 | jazka | or so |
| 16:54.54 | filo1234 | ok |
| 16:56.14 | shane2peru | does anyone know how to get rid of the tags in digikam, quick and painlessly? |
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| 17:00.53 | shane2peru | no digikam users? |
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| 17:08.36 | whileimhere | Hi I use GNOME right now since it comes as a default on Ubuntu. I just decided to give KDE another chance. I have not used it for at least 5+ years. Back then I had it running great on an old p3 laptop. Recently I have heard that KDE is a real resource hog. Is it any worse than GNOME in that respect? |
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| 17:10.02 | aleksanteri | whileimhere, it's no longer a resource hog, it got addressed a while ago (if it even existed, i'm not sure about it) |
| 17:10.06 | aleksanteri | but it isn't a resource hog |
| 17:10.25 | gonzaloaf_work | hi, why when I want to open a file with using krusader I receive this error 'KDEInit could not launch 'kwrite'' ? |
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| 17:10.36 | whileimhere | okay. |
| 17:10.50 | Half-Left | KDE3.4 was much better in that respect |
| 17:10.53 | whileimhere | I use digikam and Scribus so much that I figured I would re-give KDE a chance. |
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| 17:13.45 | whileimhere | Now there also used to be debates over KDE as open source. Something to do with the QT library or something. Is that still an issue? |
| 17:14.11 | Half-Left | whileimhere, It's GPL now |
| 17:14.28 | whileimhere | Oh great! |
| 17:14.50 | fde | whileimhere: That was a debate from the mid 90's :/ |
| 17:15.03 | whileimhere | Okay one last thing here GNOME has synaptic. What does KDE have and should I stick with Synaptic? |
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| 17:15.32 | fde | whileimhere: There would be no Gnome if Trolltech had done it quicker though... Miguel was a KDE developer, and was disgruntled about it... |
| 17:15.46 | Half-Left | whileimhere, Adept, but thats a distro question :) |
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| 17:16.16 | whileimhere | I know almost nothing about Adept is is as easy as synaptic? |
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| 17:16.51 | whileimhere | Really Miguel was a KDE dev? I didn't know that. It never mentions it in any of the books about him. |
| 17:17.16 | gonzaloaf_work | hi, why when I want to open a file with using krusader I receive this error 'KDEInit could not launch 'kwrite'' ? |
| 17:17.28 | Half-Left | whileimhere, Ask your dsitro channel |
| 17:17.37 | fde | whileimhere: yes he was. |
| 17:18.10 | whileimhere | hi I am switching to KDE for a desktop. Should I use Adept or Synaptic? |
| 17:18.18 | whileimhere | opps |
| 17:18.31 | whileimhere | LOL |
| 17:18.33 | whileimhere | Sorry |
| 17:18.37 | whileimhere | Confusing tabs |
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| 17:23.17 | Pyrelis | Hi all |
| 17:24.06 | Pyrelis | I have a screwed up icon in my systray, is there any way to find out what application it is and fix it? |
| 17:28.10 | elbeardmorez | hi. I've just done a big upgrade of packages on my fedora box, and I can;t succesfully load kde now. I've gone from kde v3.59 to v4.03. I've removed my ~/.kde settings folder and that at least got me a splash screen, it crashes immediately after the splash has finished. The ~/.xsessionerros gets spammed too heavily by kDirWatc and helpfully tells me that 'Too much output... ..ignoring rest'.... |
| 17:28.11 | elbeardmorez | ... I'm all out of ideas. Anyone?? |
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| 17:28.47 | fde | elbeardmorez: #fedora-kde ... they'll probably tell you to actually install rather than use yum though. |
| 17:29.02 | fde | elbeardmorez: Fedora does very little to ensure yum upgrades work. |
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| 17:35.15 | luxid |  oggi è il download day! aiuta firefox ad entrare nel guinnes dei primati con il massimo numero di download in 24 ore! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/it/worldrecord entro le 20 di oggi |
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| 17:41.20 | gonzaloaf_work | hi,why am I receiving this error 'KDEInit could not launch 'kwrite'' ? |
| 17:41.38 | gonzaloaf_work | 'KDEInit could not launch 'kuikshow'' ? |
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| 17:51.38 | skoptelov | Hello. How to add an app to "Applications" menu in KDE 4? |
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| 17:53.48 | annma | skoptelov: kmenuedit |
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| 17:56.43 | blip- | hi all, i'm looking for a way to backup the entire contents of an online mail box. I can access my email through imap, but the service will be shutdown soon so i was wondering: Can i use Kmail to download all emails locally on to my machine and save them to some file/files just in case i need to look at those old emails in the future ? thanks |
| 17:57.35 | blip- | (by "sevice will be shutdown" i meant my entire email account will be removed so i want to keep my backup) |
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| 18:00.02 | GNU\colossus | blip-: afaik kmail can save messages in mbox format |
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| 18:00.12 | GNU\colossus | you may want to use getmail or something similar instead though |
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| 18:00.50 | nightrow | Hi, i have found a small problem on kde4 on kubuntu : when i launch a torrent file and ktorrent is already running, torrent is added but i got a window saying "Kdeinit could not lauch ktorrent" |
| 18:00.56 | nightrow | is this a kubuntu or a kde4 issue ? i want to report the bug |
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| 18:04.45 | annma | mostly a kubuntu one |
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| 18:05.50 | blip- | thanks GNU\colossus, ill check check those options out. |
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| 18:13.53 | smitt | guys i need help |
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| 18:14.29 | smitt | in my fedora8 i cant listen music and wacth video |
| 18:14.38 | diceman | hellow |
| 18:14.40 | annma | smitt: #fedora |
| 18:14.41 | smitt | give me terminal commands to fix it |
| 18:14.46 | smitt | okay |
| 18:14.47 | annma | smitt: what app? |
| 18:14.52 | smitt | amarok |
| 18:14.56 | smitt | and kafeine |
| 18:14.59 | annma | type amarok & |
| 18:15.02 | annma | in konsole |
| 18:15.05 | diceman | how can i install a windows decoration ? |
| 18:15.08 | annma | watch the output |
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| 18:15.21 | diceman | in .emerald |
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| 18:44.35 | cga | hi , how do i restart plasma?? |
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| 18:44.49 | annma | kquitapp plasma && plasma |
| 18:45.54 | cga | thanks annma |
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| 18:49.03 | ByronC | How can I resize my desktop? |
| 18:49.18 | jazka | what do you mean? |
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| 18:49.53 | ByronC | when I move the cursor there is more screen then the monitor size |
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| 18:55.09 | pawel314 | ByronC, try Ctr+ALt+NumpadPlus |
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| 18:57.31 | ByronC | pawel314 I beleive that changes screen resoloution but I have mine set at 1280-1024 which is small enough |
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| 19:08.45 | faruk__ | hello peopley |
| 19:08.49 | faruk__ | hello peopley |
| 19:08.52 | faruk__ | hello peoplez |
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| 19:09.26 | flea | good day faruk__ |
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| 19:10.29 | faruk__ | flea; i miss my kpanel |
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| 19:11.08 | faruk__ | the taskbar |
| 19:11.18 | faruk__ | where the kmenu is |
| 19:11.22 | jazka | kde4 or kde3? |
| 19:11.48 | faruk__ | kde 3 but right now im installing 4 20 packages left to finish |
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| 19:12.24 | jazka | faruk__: run kicker |
| 19:12.30 | faruk__ | ok |
| 19:12.43 | sigma_12 | whens system settings kde4 going to have all the features of its kde3 counterpart |
| 19:12.47 | faruk__ | error while loading shared libraries: liblazy.so.0: |
| 19:12.51 | sigma_12 | ? |
| 19:13.08 | faruk__ | liblazy.so missing? |
| 19:13.19 | jazka | your installation seems to be borked |
| 19:13.47 | jazka | search for liblazy and install it |
| 19:13.50 | faruk__ | reinstall liblazy.so? but which package? |
| 19:14.02 | jazka | probably something like liblazy |
| 19:14.03 | faruk__ | i use portage |
| 19:14.08 | jazka | ah gentoo |
| 19:14.15 | jazka | run revdep-rebuild |
| 19:14.37 | jazka | or just emerge liblazy |
| 19:14.43 | faruk__ | without -X? |
| 19:14.51 | flea | lol |
| 19:14.59 | flea | why would u ever have a -X flag |
| 19:15.05 | flea | unless u live in console |
| 19:15.20 | flea | in which case u are beyond requiring assistance lol |
| 19:15.25 | faruk__ | ah ok |
| 19:16.03 | jazka | but i don't think running revdep-rebuild is a bad idea tho, maybe you have something more broken |
| 19:16.12 | jazka | but this is more #gentoo-kde topic |
| 19:16.18 | flea | it is indeed |
| 19:16.47 | flea | last one, if u have -X in make.conf ... i would put chg it to X and resync etc and yes revdep-rebuild |
| 19:17.05 | faruk__ | no i dont have -X in make.conf |
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| 19:20.09 | nplus | When I try to use psi with 100% opacity it only shows the window shadow; however it's ok with opacity <=50%. I'm using v.0.11 |
| 19:20.39 | faruk__ | compile finished still the prob |
| 19:20.54 | faruk__ | no taskbar |
| 19:21.20 | jazka | the same error if you run kicker? |
| 19:21.44 | jazka | try re-emering kicker |
| 19:21.49 | jazka | or just run revdep-rebuild |
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| 19:24.50 | faruk__ | ok re emerging kicker |
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| 19:30.09 | lelle | is there any |
| 19:30.13 | lelle | ops sorry |
| 19:30.20 | faruk__ | yes |
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| 19:30.47 | peeeta | Hi please, how can I enable kmilo in KDE 3.5? Thanks ahead |
| 19:31.10 | faruk__ | peeeta; whats kmilo? |
| 19:31.30 | peeeta | that's the thing responsible for OSD on events kile mute, vol up, etc... |
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| 19:32.27 | faruk__ | go kontrol look ther maybe its there i dont know |
| 19:32.51 | peeeta | it's not in control center, I won't ask if it'd be that simple;-) But thanks |
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| 19:36.22 | Thunderbird | I'm using kde 4.1 and now suddenly each time I start konqueror I can't visit any websites |
| 19:36.31 | Thunderbird | all buttons, toolbars related to browsing are grayed out |
| 19:36.44 | Thunderbird | (I know the software is beta) |
| 19:36.57 | Thunderbird | is it fixable e.g. by removing some lock file or whatever? |
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| 19:37.30 | Duesentrieb | hi all. do you have a recommendation for a decent kde-based/compatible time tracking program? i want to be able to log on what i'm working when. karm doesn't cut it, and korganizer is overkill and inconvenient for this. |
| 19:37.32 | Duesentrieb | any suggestions? |
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| 19:39.38 | Duesentrieb | the karm site refers to KTimeTracker, but that sites seems to be gone |
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| 19:41.55 | Duesentrieb | hrm... looking at http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3480 it seems that ktimetracker will be able to do what i want. but it's not in the kubuntu repos. i guess i have to wait for kde 4... |
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| 19:43.17 | faruk__ | Thunderbird; hello |
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| 19:43.34 | faruk__ | Thunderbird; try surfing with http:// |
| 19:44.19 | faruk__ | Thunderbird yo said you use kde 4.1? the last version is kde 4.0.85 |
| 19:44.51 | faruk__ | probably 4.0.1? |
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| 19:46.41 | aleksanteri | faruk__, there's kde 4.1 beta 1 out |
| 19:47.47 | faruk__ | aleksanteri; what ? hmm in my ebuilt ther isnt kde 4.1 fresh from repo snvkde |
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| 19:52.00 | angasule | hmm, X is leaking memory like crazy, reached 350MB a while ago |
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| 19:52.36 | faruk__ | angasule; ati? |
| 19:52.44 | HS^^ | will LINUX\X always sucks? i think so yes. theres no organisation like KDE |
| 19:53.20 | flea | HS^^: i have to lol at u |
| 19:53.36 | flea | as well as not take u serious |
| 19:54.09 | HS^^ | what is so lol about a simple fact |
| 19:54.48 | faruk__ | thats true |
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| 19:54.58 | angasule | faruk__: no, nvidia |
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| 19:58.14 | flea | HS^^: honestly, thats not fact, rather your own opinion |
| 19:58.21 | flea | well deserving of LOL @ u |
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| 20:06.55 | HS^^ | if you cant accept the facts, dont blame me |
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| 20:07.32 | flea | HS^^: u presented absolutely no facts |
| 20:07.44 | flea | and for that , yes u are to blame for slander |
| 20:08.11 | flea | i found kde to be well organized since the 99ish |
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| 20:16.15 | angasule | holy guacamole |
| 20:16.30 | angasule | every new window raises the memory usage by 0.3 |
| 20:16.50 | angasule | add that to konqueror's crashiness and no wonder I was seeing 90% memory use |
| 20:16.56 | angasule | anwayn, I better leave |
| 20:17.19 | lemma | angasule: that sounds like quite an old problem |
| 20:17.29 | angasule | 4.00.80 |
| 20:17.45 | lemma | angasule: well, that IS quite old :) almost a month, isn't it? |
| 20:18.26 | lemma | angasule: try beta2. I guess it should be better |
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| 20:21.41 | ginajohn | how do i join ubuntu? |
| 20:21.41 | ginajohn | on here? |
| 20:22.00 | angasule | ginajohn: /join #ubuntu |
| 20:22.13 | angasule | lemma: oh, a month, the good old days :P |
| 20:22.47 | ginajohn | hi |
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| 20:29.02 | lemma | angasule: well, it's trunk :-) |
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| 20:52.28 | jspazzy | hi |
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| 20:59.14 | jill | )) |
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| 20:59.59 | SimAtWork | i have a program to start up on login |
| 21:00.03 | SimAtWork | but it got saved in my session |
| 21:00.08 | SimAtWork | so now when i log in it starts up twice |
| 21:00.22 | SimAtWork | how can i tell it not start this particular program due to the session |
| 21:00.31 | SimAtWork | (kde 3.5.9) |
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| 21:05.44 | hareldvd | using kmix in none kde environment, can I set arguments to it to select volume and channel? |
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| 21:10.10 | olle-wp | hareldvd: if you read the manpages you'll see that there is kmixcontrol. |
| 21:10.25 | olle-wp | you could use it to load your personal volume settings |
| 21:10.48 | olle-wp | possible modify them in some rc using somethg like sed? |
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| 21:11.11 | jill | can i listen mp3 on f8? |
| 21:11.18 | hareldvd | olle-wp: |
| 21:11.19 | hareldvd | $ man kmixctrl |
| 21:11.19 | hareldvd | No manual entry for kmixctrl |
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| 21:12.00 | pinotree | jill: #fedora please |
| 21:12.04 | olle-wp | hareldvd: strange. |
| 21:12.51 | jill | on fedora chanel they sad to me that is not supported format |
| 21:13.03 | jill | or pro pro.. proprie.. |
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| 21:13.15 | jill | okay i dont know i am 8 years old |
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| 21:17.49 | ajuc | hello, I have kde 4.0.82 from debian experimental, I've enabled strigi in system settings, but i can't figure out how to search files using it |
| 21:18.10 | ajuc | nepomuksearch:\ doesn't work |
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| 21:27.46 | FiNeX | hi! |
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| 21:28.32 | poypoy | hi dus anyone know if there is a game like ps2 socom for linux |
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| 21:31.00 | limpan | just up an running a svn build. every kink i had from the beta has been sorted out. great job everyone involved! |
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| 21:37.00 | integer` | how to disable Ksynaptics autostart ? |
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| 21:40.27 | hareldvd | Any idea why kdm doesn't start ~/.Xsession? |
| 21:41.12 | Pollywog | I don't believe it should do that |
| 21:41.54 | Pollywog | use ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 21:42.03 | Pollywog | use ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| 21:42.08 | Pollywog | it is a directory |
| 21:42.37 | Pollywog | xdm uses xsession and I believe gdm does also |
| 21:43.02 | hareldvd | sorry, got confused for a moment. ~/.Xresources is the file I meant. |
| 21:43.46 | Pollywog | I don't recall whether kdm uses that one |
| 21:44.25 | Pollywog | I put my startup scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
| 21:44.46 | hareldvd | Every X11 environment mechanism should use it. |
| 21:45.18 | hareldvd | It is not for startup operation. It is for default settings such as font and color. |
| 21:45.45 | Pollywog | oic |
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| 21:56.51 | ginajohn | join #/ubuntu |
| 21:57.05 | ginajohn | join /#ubuntu |
| 21:57.14 | ginajohn | grrr |
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| 21:57.39 | ginajohn | join / #ubuntu |
| 21:57.41 | pinotree | ginajohn: the / as first character |
| 21:58.16 | ethan961__ | "/join #ubuntu" |
| 21:58.18 | ethan961__ | without quotes |
| 21:58.23 | pinotree | yep |
| 21:59.02 | TurtleUrtle | kde is where its at |
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| 22:00.14 | Corty | Hi |
| 22:00.18 | TurtleUrtle | Hi |
| 22:03.42 | TurtleUrtle | whats the wrod awordup! |
| 22:03.49 | TurtleUrtle | rebooting |
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| 22:04.37 | troy | we have KDE gangsters now! That must be the sign that we are truly successful :P |
| 22:04.44 | troy | spins it - being the marketing guy :P |
| 22:04.54 | pedepy | how can i force an app to start minimized? |
| 22:06.01 | troy | pedepy: check kstart --help |
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| 22:06.41 | troy | pedepy: you can use it to set some startup parameters for arbitrary apps - you just have to call the app as an argument to kstart |
| 22:06.53 | troy | not sure if --iconify is what you need :) |
| 22:08.24 | troy | pedepy: yep, just tried "kstart --iconify kmines" and kmines loaded minimized :) |
| 22:08.35 | troy | but now I'm obligated to play a round :) |
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| 22:15.06 | pedepy | alright good thx |
| 22:17.12 | daskreech | ginajohn: /j #kubuntu :) |
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| 22:18.32 | pedepy | well it doesnt werk with kwifimanager ....... |
| 22:18.35 | pedepy | :/ |
| 22:20.37 | troy | pedepy: hrm - that program could be doing something funny, like putting it's main window in a dialog instead of a normal window... *shrug* |
| 22:20.43 | troy | pedepy: KDE 4? |
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| 22:22.41 | pedepy | yea |
| 22:22.46 | pedepy | and its a kde3 app |
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| 22:22.50 | pedepy | maybe thats why |
| 22:22.53 | fram | hi |
| 22:23.01 | pedepy | i dont use kwin also, maybe that could be why |
| 22:24.15 | fram | am I allowed to put some add for a soft I made here? I jsut put it on sourceforge, I'd like to have one or two visits, just for fun :) It is a mp3 player with a library, in Qt4 and Phonon, I just found JuK was not what I needed right now.. |
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| 22:25.51 | daskreech | fram: is it on kde-apps ? |
| 22:26.03 | daskreech | Or ... there is a Qt-apps rights? |
| 22:26.30 | fram | I dont know about this, its the first time I try to make a soft a bit public |
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| 22:28.46 | troy | fram: fill it in on qt-apps.org |
| 22:29.06 | troy | fram: that'll help it be discovered by people |
| 22:29.20 | mohbana | i use fedora with gnome but i presume i need to turn on AA somewhere else for KDE apps such as KIlLE etc |
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| 22:29.41 | troy | pedepy: you could test the kwin theory by trying kstart with other apps to see if it always fails.. |
| 22:29.44 | fram | ok thanks for the advice I'll do it tomorrow :) It is hard enough to battle with sourceforge for one day ;) |
| 22:30.09 | troy | fram: qt-apps.org isn't bad :P |
| 22:30.15 | pedepy | ah |
| 22:30.57 | pedepy | eh yea it doesnt work with either konqueror or dolphin.. |
| 22:31.26 | pedepy | its weird though |
| 22:31.52 | troy | mohbana: qt and kde version? |
| 22:31.58 | pedepy | if i start i like that, i get a buncha changes in focus amongs the various open windows on my desktop, and then he app pops up, not minimized |
| 22:32.22 | troy | pedepy: what wm are you using? |
| 22:32.40 | mohbana | qt.x86_64 1:4.3.4-14.fc9 installed |
| 22:32.40 | mohbana | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.41 | mohbana | 4 |
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| 22:34.34 | troy | mohbana: if you have systemsettings installed, go to System Settings->Look and Feel->Appearance->Fonts->Use Anti-aliasing |
| 22:34.51 | troy | mohbana: on most systems, it is set to "Use System Settings" |
| 22:35.14 | troy | mohbana: which would respect X settings - however, if you have it set in gtk but not X, that wouldn't get picked up |
| 22:36.51 | mohbana | i don't think it's being detected, gnome is main desktop and i've set it on gnome |
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| 22:38.07 | FreshPrince | hi |
| 22:38.24 | FreshPrince | can anybody tell me why my kbluetooth didnt starts? http://phpfi.com/325281 |
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| 22:40.23 | mohbana | Trigger7: |
| 22:40.27 | mohbana | ops, i meant troy |
| 22:40.29 | troy | FreshPrince: having never used bluetooth, I really don't know, however you might want to check out the commandline program called solid-bluetooth which may provide you additional information for troubleshooting |
| 22:40.56 | FreshPrince | ok |
| 22:44.17 | pedepy | FreshPrince ? epic. |
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| 22:44.56 | mohbana | so how do i turn on AA for the KDE apps? |
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| 22:45.32 | FreshPrince | pedepy, what? |
| 22:46.23 | pedepy | i just admire your nickname, FreshPrince |
| 22:46.30 | FreshPrince | ^^ |
| 22:46.39 | pedepy | its important things like this don't get forgotten. |
| 22:46.41 | pedepy | ;p |
| 22:46.44 | FreshPrince | i need some help with my bluetooth :( |
| 22:46.47 | FreshPrince | hehe |
| 22:46.57 | fram | see a dentist |
| 22:47.06 | pedepy | check with your distro or forums around the web ... bluetooth usually ain't directly related to KDE |
| 22:47.08 | fram | sorry :) |
| 22:47.14 | pedepy | fram: he needs to see a BLUE dentist, idiot |
| 22:47.33 | pedepy | you know, for blueteeth.. |
| 22:47.36 | pedepy | ah |
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| 22:48.01 | fram | well, a blue tooth is no healthy tooth, so any dentist should do ;) |
| 22:48.35 | pedepy | true. |
| 22:48.41 | Pollywog | I wonder if King Harold Bluetooth really had blue teeth |
| 22:48.48 | fram | maybe a smurf dentist |
| 22:49.12 | FreshPrince | lol |
| 22:49.13 | FreshPrince | wait |
| 22:49.13 | pedepy | jesus |
| 22:49.18 | pedepy | you went there |
| 22:49.23 | FreshPrince | the app "bluetooth-sendto" works for me.. lol |
| 22:49.29 | FreshPrince | but its toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slow |
| 22:49.33 | FreshPrince | hum |
| 22:49.56 | FreshPrince | i have a mobile usb cable, already connected.. but i dont know how to mount that.. :/ |
| 22:50.22 | FreshPrince | Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0fce:00b3 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB |
| 22:50.38 | FreshPrince | pan0: Dropping NETIF_F_UFO since no NETIF_F_HW_CSUM feature. |
| 22:50.38 | FreshPrince | usb 2-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 |
| 22:50.38 | FreshPrince | usb 2-5: configuration #4 chosen from 1 choice |
| 22:50.42 | FreshPrince | thats the output from dmesg |
| 22:50.48 | FreshPrince | anybody an idea? :) |
| 22:51.12 | pedepy | thats your phone? |
| 22:51.19 | FreshPrince | yes |
| 22:51.29 | FreshPrince | i've connected it with the usb cable |
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| 22:53.37 | FreshPrince | any idea? |
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| 22:59.48 | daskreech | Is there any Speech to text software for KDE ? |
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| 23:07.26 | Virtual | the screen sizes don't show up when i try to configure the display, what can I do ? |
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| 23:10.29 | daskreech | Virtual: man xrandr |
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| 23:25.39 | ginajohn | #/ join ubuntu |
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| 23:26.49 | limpan | no space before the slash |
| 23:27.11 | ethan961 | # always before the channel |
| 23:27.19 | ethan961 | #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 23:27.37 | ethan961 | and commands always begin with a slash, /join /part |
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