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| 00:09.35 | Koopa | I made the move to KDE, but now my network wont work... I'm about to bail and go back to gnome... anyone know how to tweak the network in KDE? |
| 00:09.45 | Koopa | I have an IP and can ping my router but can't hit the internet |
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| 00:12.02 | k1lumin4t1 | is there any GUI linux app for capturing audio/video from a webcam? |
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| 00:21.23 | kdepepo | Koopa, KDE 3/4 ? |
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| 00:27.21 | robbins61 | When I load KDE4, i have no plasma bar...what the f? |
| 00:27.45 | Koopa | sorry... went back to my KDE to take a stab at it.. |
| 00:27.49 | Koopa | i think it's 4... |
| 00:28.03 | Koopa | just did the apt-get yesterday... i assume its the latest... install kubuntu-desktop |
| 00:28.23 | Koopa | It's odd that I can see the router but can't get to the internet.... |
| 00:29.39 | bedi | Koopa: there is a dedicated channel for ubuntu users with kde4 |
| 00:29.58 | robbins61 | anyone know? |
| 00:30.36 | bedi | #kubuntu-kde4 |
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| 00:44.53 | njdube | Will there be a KDirStat for KDE 4.1? |
| 00:45.09 | njdube | That's one feature I could use in Dolphin. |
| 00:46.15 | Walzmyn | Is there a way to turn reminders off on a remote calender in Kontact? |
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| 00:50.15 | engineer | njdube konqueror has that i believe |
| 00:51.49 | njdube | engineer, Well actually, KDirStat is a separate program that you can use through konqueror. As of now there is only a KDE 3 port. I was just wondering if there where plans to port it to KDE 4. |
| 00:54.41 | engineer | i thought it was a view mode in konqueror |
| 00:56.58 | njdube | engineer, No. In fact you can find the program in the K menu under Applications. |
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| 00:59.05 | njdube | engineer, Under System > File System. |
| 01:00.16 | engineer | ok njdube i have used this before |
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| 01:22.50 | brendan_ | hello, i'm trying to build the example plasma applet from the techbase tutorial from kde trunk |
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| 01:24.52 | brendan_ | i used kdesvn to build kde. Cmake seems to run properly, but when i run make, i get make[2]: KDE4_AUTOMOC_EXECUTABLE-NOTFOUND: Command not found |
| 01:25.07 | brendan_ | the automoc excecutable is in my path, so i'm not sure what went wrong |
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| 02:30.26 | derek_k | brendan: do you have automoc from kdesupport? |
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| 02:40.29 | paloris_J | what is the cb command and what package does it come in |
| 02:41.36 | Jucato | paloris_J: it's in http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc |
| 02:41.39 | Jucato | it's not a package |
| 02:41.57 | paloris_J | Jucato: What is it |
| 02:42.05 | Jucato | see the link |
| 02:42.26 | Jucato | it's a bash function. see the instructions in http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment |
| 02:42.31 | paloris_J | Just looking now |
| 02:43.39 | paloris_J | Jucato: I presume that you havegot kde all compiled and working |
| 02:44.18 | Jucato | in a way. but not using techbase instructions |
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| 03:01.04 | daskreech | Anyone willling to explain strigi to me? |
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| 03:13.27 | iamben | how do i get plasma's desktop to refresh? ive still got icons on there for stuff i deleted last week |
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| 03:15.13 | daskreech | iamben: That's a bit different |
| 03:15.22 | daskreech | iamben: When you log out all the icons come back |
| 03:15.39 | iamben | yes |
| 03:15.39 | daskreech | You have to delete them from ~/Desktop for them to actually go away |
| 03:15.48 | iamben | the files are gone, the icons remain |
| 03:16.03 | daskreech | That's not supposed to happen :) |
| 03:16.15 | daskreech | Removing them isn't permanent? |
| 03:17.33 | iamben | well i deleted the files from a term, i also tried clicking the little red X on the icon on the desktop after that, but they still all come back after restarting kde |
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| 03:19.19 | daskreech | and the files don't exist in ~/Desktop/ ? |
| 03:19.26 | daskreech | I assume that's where they are from? |
| 03:19.57 | iamben | right |
| 03:20.05 | daskreech | hmmm |
| 03:20.16 | iamben | i guess its being cached somewhere, dont know where or why |
| 03:20.51 | daskreech | ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc I'll guess try rename that |
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| 03:23.33 | iamben | that was definitely the culprit |
| 03:23.38 | daskreech | nods |
| 03:23.44 | iamben | now i guess ill watch and see if it happens again |
| 03:24.07 | daskreech | You could just logout and log back in |
| 03:25.29 | iamben | working fine now, must have been something wrong w/ the file that kept kde from updating it properly |
| 03:25.59 | daskreech | Oh updating it ravenously :) |
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| 06:11.12 | Linex | Whats the kde for redhat channel called ? |
| 06:12.49 | Jucato | #redhat maybe? or #redhat-kde or #fedora-kde ? :D |
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| 06:13.30 | Linex | no, no and no. I just tried all. |
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| 06:13.59 | Linex | actually, fedora-kde yes |
| 06:14.01 | Linex | thanks |
| 06:14.04 | Jucato | :P |
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| 06:16.00 | skreech | I'm highly suspicious of that |
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| 06:18.34 | icqnumber | skreech: hi |
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| 08:12.42 | _cameron_ | anyone know why anything run from kmenu is regular light interface and stuff ran with "run command" is darker? I notice this with firefox, and gimp, and prolly alot more |
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| 08:14.44 | annma | only gtk apps? |
| 08:14.49 | annma | or KDE apps as well? |
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| 08:17.31 | Jucato | thinks it has something to do with the .gtkrcsomething file not being read.. for the gtk-qt-engine |
| 08:18.07 | annma | exactly |
| 08:18.22 | annma | _cameron_: ^^ |
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| 08:24.15 | whirm | hi all! |
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| 08:29.53 | _cameron_ | is firefox a gtk-qt app? |
| 08:30.20 | annma | it's a gtk app |
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| 08:30.36 | annma | gtk-qt is a theme to make gtk apps better blend in KDE |
| 08:30.58 | annma | ask your distribution channel about the problem |
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| 09:09.07 | alediaferia | I'd like to have your opinions about an application to handle RAR archives I'm working on. I would be pleased if you could have a look on akublog.wordpress.com |
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| 09:11.32 | annma | opinions as in test the app? |
| 09:11.36 | annma | or what? |
| 09:12.16 | xmanwe | how can i change the size of desktop icons? they're really huge and i cannot find where to change it.. in kubuntu hardy 8.04.. |
| 09:12.31 | annma | alediaferia: ? |
| 09:12.32 | alediaferia | annma: testing the app would be nice, however a 1.00 version is incoming.. :) If you don't have time please just have a look at screenshots and few posts |
| 09:12.48 | annma | does your app have a webpage? |
| 09:12.58 | alediaferia | http://akublog.wordpress.com |
| 09:13.19 | annma | that's a blog, not a webpage |
| 09:13.40 | alediaferia | sure, but I use it also as a webpage in the meanwhile :D |
| 09:14.07 | alediaferia | aKu is also hosted on kde-apps.org |
| 09:14.14 | annma | so what do you want opinions on? |
| 09:14.26 | annma | ah paste the link then |
| 09:14.44 | alediaferia | pasted: http://akublog.wordpress.com can you see that? :) |
| 09:14.45 | annma | what does the name mean? aKu? |
| 09:14.54 | alediaferia | another kompression utility |
| 09:14.55 | annma | alediaferia: the kde-apps one |
| 09:15.01 | alediaferia | oh sorry |
| 09:15.02 | annma | booh, what a nema |
| 09:15.02 | alediaferia | incoming |
| 09:15.09 | annma | booh, what a stupid name |
| 09:15.29 | annma | opinion: the name does not say what the app does -> I dislike |
| 09:15.29 | Jejem | hey shadok : |
| 09:15.30 | Jejem | :p |
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| 09:15.38 | alediaferia | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/aKu?content=78839&PHPSESSID=1aefb496b4c962f29ccc98f147253f97 |
| 09:15.50 | alediaferia | annma: ok.. a name review goes in my plans :D |
| 09:16.28 | Sput | annma: most apps have that problem :p |
| 09:16.33 | Sput | k3b *cough* |
| 09:17.15 | annma | yes, indeed |
| 09:17.22 | annma | but k3b managed to get famous |
| 09:17.33 | annma | so it's not a problem anymore |
| 09:17.40 | Sput | yeah |
| 09:18.05 | Sput | kopete... amarok... dolphin... |
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| 09:18.36 | Sput | must say I find that much cooler than kmultimess, kmusicmanager and kfilebrowser :) |
| 09:19.23 | annma | KUnRar says it all though |
| 09:19.34 | annma | it says it's a KDE frontend to rar |
| 09:19.44 | Sput | yeah, sometimes you have that, but I think the majority of applications out there has non-speaking names |
| 09:19.48 | alediaferia | annma: aKu manages also the creation of rar archives :D |
| 09:19.49 | Sput | people get used to it :) |
| 09:20.09 | annma | alediaferia: and that doe snot use rar utility? |
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| 09:20.21 | alediaferia | annma: it uses it |
| 09:20.25 | annma | KRar then |
| 09:20.33 | Sput | boooorgin |
| 09:20.39 | Sput | *booooring |
| 09:20.44 | annma | it was just to make my point |
| 09:20.45 | alediaferia | annma: ehm i agree with Sput :D |
| 09:20.52 | GraveDigger | i do not |
| 09:20.56 | GraveDigger | i personally find the kCoolName thingy nice ... |
| 09:20.57 | annma | Sput will propose a smarter name though |
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| 09:21.04 | annma | Sput: propose! |
| 09:21.07 | Sput | I don't find aKu that bad |
| 09:21.20 | annma | I would never spot it in KDE apps |
| 09:21.32 | annma | but well, I don't use rar anyway |
| 09:21.40 | Sput | uses ark or cli tools |
| 09:21.41 | alediaferia | thinks Sput is kind |
| 09:21.42 | Phlogi_ | where does kmail save its network settings? I mean the email accounts... in kmailrc? |
| 09:22.01 | annma | Sput: you would spot aKu if you have to deal with .rar? |
| 09:22.03 | pusling | annma: rar is very much used by people pirating pr0n on usenet ;) |
| 09:22.17 | Sput | annma: I hope a description goes with it that contains that keyword |
| 09:22.18 | annma | pusling: ahhh I see, I don't need that |
| 09:22.25 | alediaferia | annma: pulsing is right, and also by people nearing linux for first times |
| 09:22.40 | annma | first time? how come alediaferia |
| 09:22.49 | Sput | annma: but really, would you prefer if every app would be named after its task? wouldn't that get quite boring, and what do you do if you have multiple tools for the job? |
| 09:23.11 | annma | Sput: for that kind of utility what matters is to find the tool |
| 09:23.12 | alediaferia | annma: because often people pass from windows to linux, and on windows they use lots of rar archives |
| 09:23.18 | Sput | dolphin -> kfilebrowser, phonon -> ksoundlayer, solid -> khardwareabstraction... |
| 09:23.25 | annma | for where alediaferia |
| 09:23.31 | annma | Sput: it's an utility |
| 09:23.40 | annma | Sput: it's not a file manager!!! |
| 09:23.47 | annma | it'll never get famous |
| 09:23.53 | annma | that's my point |
| 09:23.58 | pusling | kannma |
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| 09:24.03 | annma | for utilities I prefer K-foo |
| 09:24.10 | annma | pusling: :) |
| 09:24.34 | pusling | among the k-apps, we have the famous "kino" |
| 09:24.43 | GraveDigger | konqueror! |
| 09:24.49 | GraveDigger | imho much more famous |
| 09:24.51 | Sput | which probably is only understood by germans properly |
| 09:25.05 | annma | no, no |
| 09:25.05 | Sput | kino I mean |
| 09:25.05 | pusling | (kino is a gnome app) |
| 09:25.05 | GraveDigger | yeah of course |
| 09:25.08 | annma | un conquérant |
| 09:25.14 | annma | konqueror |
| 09:25.22 | Sput | or do USians get the connection from kino to cinema? |
| 09:25.28 | blauzahl | konqueror your desktop! |
| 09:25.29 | Phlogi_ | huch, got kmail working again |
| 09:25.33 | blauzahl | ins kino |
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| 09:25.45 | pusling | Kinema |
| 09:25.52 | annma | well I gave my opinion which was alediaferia asked for anyway |
| 09:25.54 | blauzahl | only if they took language class, but with loss of context, i did'nt get it |
| 09:26.06 | alediaferia | annma: i do appreciate a lot :) |
| 09:26.10 | Sput | pusling: yeah, but that sounds more like a physics application :) |
| 09:26.19 | blauzahl | i like k-names though, otherwise i have no clue what an app does |
| 09:26.27 | GraveDigger | indeed |
| 09:26.37 | Sput | k-names are sometimes cool, if they manage to do a good play on words |
| 09:26.40 | Sput | konversation is genious |
| 09:26.44 | annma | k-names also are likely not taken/copyrighted |
| 09:26.58 | pusling | KraveDigger |
| 09:27.02 | annma | which is an important thing to consider |
| 09:27.07 | blauzahl | and you can then say fun things like "konquer your desktop" :) |
| 09:27.14 | annma | blauzahl: :) |
| 09:27.20 | Sput | what I don't like that much are the k-prefixes, such as kmail and kwrite and kword... that gets stupid |
| 09:27.33 | GraveDigger | dolphin your desktop sounds somewhat stupid |
| 09:27.36 | blauzahl | that really sounds like it should be a pickupline |
| 09:27.37 | Sput | "yeah, take that word and prefix a k, now we have a kool name" |
| 09:27.48 | annma | Sput: for KMail of course we could get smarter |
| 09:27.52 | blauzahl | did it ever make it to a shirt? and if so, how do i get one? :) |
| 09:27.57 | GraveDigger | wasnt KDE once "Kool Desktop Environment"? |
| 09:27.59 | Sput | kontact or konversation are good examples |
| 09:28.14 | annma | Konnect |
| 09:28.15 | pusling | and kontact should be KommuniKator |
| 09:28.32 | annma | Kollect |
| 09:28.33 | pusling | annma: Konnect is for modems and stuff ,) |
| 09:28.46 | annma | you connect people nowadays pusling |
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| 09:28.55 | Sput | or "korrect" for a spell checker |
| 09:28.59 | annma | lol |
| 09:29.02 | Sput | annma: this is still not nokia :p |
| 09:29.07 | annma | all this is quite silly |
| 09:29.07 | pusling | annma: nah. that's nokia (and trolltech) |
| 09:29.09 | Sput | so we are not konnecting people |
| 09:29.35 | Sput | finds it disturbing how nokia managed to implant that slogan into our brains |
| 09:29.43 | annma | did not know Nokia motto was to connect people |
| 09:29.45 | alediaferia | thinks is getting all so funny |
| 09:29.55 | GraveDigger | too |
| 09:30.05 | annma | seldom watches TV or listen to radio |
| 09:30.24 | annma | I can't be biased, can I? |
| 09:30.28 | annma | you're scaring me |
| 09:30.31 | to0om | will quanta ever be ported to kde4? |
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| 09:30.39 | alediaferia | Kuanta |
| 09:30.43 | Sput | kwanta! |
| 09:30.46 | GraveDigger | xD |
| 09:30.47 | alediaferia | ahahah |
| 09:30.48 | annma | lol |
| 09:30.51 | pusling | annma: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7b/Nokia_Connecting_People.svg/575px-Nokia_Connecting_People.svg.png |
| 09:30.55 | Fujisan | hello |
| 09:30.58 | Sput | isn't it ported? |
| 09:31.04 | annma | oh my pusling |
| 09:31.22 | annma | quanta is part of KWebDev, it's in porting |
| 09:31.29 | Fujisan | annma |
| 09:31.41 | to0om | i can't seem to find any kde4 packages for quanta |
| 09:31.42 | Fujisan | i need help guys |
| 09:31.57 | pusling | yeah. annma is a guy |
| 09:31.59 | annma | Fujisan: just ask your question |
| 09:32.02 | alediaferia | Fujisan: you are allowed to speak :D |
| 09:32.04 | to0om | and the kdewebdev website seems to be dead |
| 09:32.05 | annma | ;) |
| 09:32.16 | annma | to0om: yes, we need web people |
| 09:32.27 | Fujisan | i installed kde4 for windows a while back.... but i dont know how to start it anymore i totally forget how to initialize and how to update it |
| 09:32.35 | Sput | hmm, there is a gentoo package for 4.0.4 |
| 09:32.39 | annma | can developers develop, maintain websites, write docs, and all? no, they are human |
| 09:32.50 | Jejem | human after all :) |
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| 09:32.57 | Sput | especially developing and maintaing websites don't go well together :) |
| 09:32.58 | annma | Fujisan: #kde-windows |
| 09:32.58 | pusling | except pinotree ;) |
| 09:33.01 | annma | lol |
| 09:33.05 | Sput | it's like programming and writing docs |
| 09:33.11 | Sput | nobody does both |
| 09:33.12 | annma | I do it all as well |
| 09:33.13 | pinotree | ... |
| 09:33.18 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 09:33.25 | to0om | yeah true. i just wanted to ask whether there is any development at this time, because quanta is one of the main reasons why i use kde |
| 09:33.31 | annma | some of us are supra-human |
| 09:33.39 | annma | to0om: cool |
| 09:33.42 | to0om | and it would really be a pity if quanta would no be included into kde4 |
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| 09:33.52 | annma | it will at time |
| 09:34.05 | annma | to0om: unfortunately software is written by people |
| 09:34.16 | annma | few people == slow development |
| 09:34.32 | to0om | of course |
| 09:34.37 | pusling | annma: you could write a piece of software that develops software! |
| 09:34.46 | annma | lol |
| 09:34.49 | alediaferia | pulsing: was writing the same :D |
| 09:35.00 | alediaferia | pusling* |
| 09:35.28 | pusling | enough silliness. I should get to works |
| 09:35.33 | Jejem | lol |
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| 09:35.43 | annma | Fujisan: did you join #kde-windows |
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| 09:41.37 | sredna | why doesn't konversation join a channel when i type '/join #channel'? it takes about 10 seconds ?????? |
| 09:42.20 | annma | sredna: problem on your side |
| 09:42.26 | annma | automatic here |
| 09:42.27 | pusling | someone is blocking your internetz |
| 09:42.38 | sredna | no |
| 09:42.38 | pusling | your cat maybe ? |
| 09:42.44 | annma | you are spied and kontroled sredna |
| 09:42.56 | sredna | #%&¤/&% you |
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| 09:43.03 | annma | hmmm |
| 09:43.07 | Jejem | LOL |
| 09:43.08 | annma | he took it badly |
| 09:43.11 | Jejem | seems |
| 09:43.17 | alediaferia | sredna got angry.. :( |
| 09:43.33 | annma | don't worry |
| 09:43.43 | annma | I'll sort it out when he comes back |
| 09:43.49 | alediaferia | :D |
| 09:43.57 | pusling | evil kate developers ;) |
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| 09:44.44 | annma | well he is usually nice |
| 09:44.56 | annma | probably having a bad day |
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| 10:35.57 | Beaker | Installed KDE with ubuntu 8.04 My bar at the bottom seems to have gotten a life of its own. The clock and desktops have moved themselves to the left and now when I minimize anything I can't maximize it again. How to I get the closk and desktops back to the right? |
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| 10:36.37 | Beaker | KDE 4.1 SORRY FORGOT TO GIVE VERSION |
| 10:37.12 | Beaker | stupid cap lock |
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| 10:37.56 | Beaker | no body home? |
| 10:38.08 | flaccid__ | be patient and don't shout |
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| 10:38.29 | Beaker | Note the comment about cap locks? I wasn't shouting |
| 10:39.14 | flaccid__ | yes i noticed |
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| 10:40.12 | annma | remove the clock and desktop and re-add them |
| 10:41.34 | Beaker | ok I'll give it a whirl. stand by |
| 10:41.47 | annma | does nto dare to move |
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| 10:42.05 | Half-Left | :) |
| 10:42.21 | annma | winks to Half-Left nevertheless |
| 10:42.30 | Beaker | Ok I removed them and ... moved the recently plugged devices x-chat ticket and clipboard left |
| 10:42.53 | jcarlos | I have built successfully KDE trunk with the script kdesvn-build. Looking at the log files it generates, I can see the following with respect to the kdelibs module: http://rafb.net/p/AejSHK26.nln.html |
| 10:42.54 | Beaker | you could sit slowly instead of standing fast if you like |
| 10:42.59 | jcarlos | ~/kdesvn/kdesupport/ and installed in ~/kde/. Even I can see the include files in ~/kde/include/ |
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| 10:43.09 | jcarlos | Am I missing anything ? |
| 10:43.11 | Half-Left | annma, Waits with annma |
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| 10:43.17 | Half-Left | annma, Waits with annma |
| 10:43.19 | Half-Left | :p |
| 10:43.41 | Half-Left | oh man, not good this morning am I |
| 10:44.09 | Half-Left | wakes up proper and slaps his hands into gear |
| 10:44.27 | annma | jcarlos: you're missiing soprano |
| 10:44.35 | Beaker | in old KDE I could grab them and move them where I wanted, not so with 4 eh? |
| 10:44.37 | jcarlos | I can see soprano built in ~/kdesvn/kdesupport/ and installed in ~/kde/. Even I can see the include files in ~/kde/include/ |
| 10:44.40 | annma | jcarlos: where is soprano installed then? |
| 10:45.03 | annma | jcarlos: retry kdelibs and paste the whole cmake output please |
| 10:45.10 | jcarlos | OK |
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| 10:46.05 | Half-Left | annma, Doing some Kbreakout mockups, coming along nicely :) |
| 10:46.21 | annma | :) |
| 10:48.44 | jcarlos | annma: Here it is: http://rafb.net/p/Ae4eid81.html |
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| 10:49.43 | annma | jcarlos: Soprano version 2.0.3 is too old. Please install 2.0.97 or newer |
| 10:50.00 | annma | uninstall this 2.0.3 version so the kdesupport one will be picked please |
| 10:50.15 | jcarlos | annma: OK |
| 10:50.40 | jcarlos | jcarlos: But the question is: can I use de newer version without uninstalling the old one ? |
| 10:50.46 | jcarlos | Upps |
| 10:50.56 | jcarlos | annma: But the question is: can I use de newer version without uninstalling the old one ? |
| 10:52.34 | annma | jcarlos: not easily so I advise againat |
| 10:52.50 | annma | why do you want to keep old one? |
| 10:53.10 | jcarlos | annma: OK. Uninstalling ... :-) |
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| 10:56.06 | jcarlos | annma: kdelibs compiling with soprano support ... :-) Thanks ... |
| 10:56.28 | annma | :) |
| 10:56.53 | Half-Left | Now update the rest of the libs :p |
| 10:58.08 | jcarlos | Half-Left: What libs do you refer to ? |
| 10:58.29 | jcarlos | Half-Left: kdepimlibs and kdebase ? |
| 10:58.35 | Half-Left | You'll find out soon enough :p |
| 10:58.51 | jcarlos | Half-Left: He he |
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| 10:59.12 | annma | with kde-svnscript I think cmake is rerun |
| 10:59.33 | Half-Left | Some require new versions than the latest distro like Hardy |
| 10:59.37 | jcarlos | annma: I use kdesvn-build |
| 10:59.55 | jcarlos | annma: And I have passed the --reconfigure option to it ... |
| 11:00.01 | annma | excellent |
| 11:00.42 | jcarlos | Half-Left: The libs you refered to were the libs in kdelibs ? |
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| 11:01.16 | Half-Left | jcarlos, No the deps for kde |
| 11:01.38 | jcarlos | Half-Left: External deps, you mean ? |
| 11:01.46 | Half-Left | yep |
| 11:02.17 | jcarlos | Half-Left: I'm using debian testing, I think I must be relatively updated ... :-) |
| 11:02.58 | Half-Left | like strigi 0.5.10 |
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| 11:03.31 | jcarlos | Half-Left: I have compiled strigi from kdesupport |
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| 11:05.41 | Half-Left | I didn't know about kdesupport when I last compiled :p |
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| 11:09.35 | jcarlos | Half-Left: Ups ... I'm looking at the cmake.log file and it searched cmake >= 0.5.9. Must I have 0.5.10 ? |
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| 11:11.31 | Half-Left | yep |
| 11:11.42 | Half-Left | As I remember it did |
| 11:12.04 | Half-Left | it may have been 5.9 actually |
| 11:12.20 | Half-Left | 5.10 is the latest thats all |
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| 13:06.27 | The_Ball | I have a gkrellm at one side of the screen. Is there any way to make KDE maximize windows so that they start 50 pixels to the right, i.e. don't actually fill the whole screen? |
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| 13:32.38 | sinoohe | Hi to all |
| 13:33.49 | sinoohe | I have an GTK them !! I want add this GTK them to kde4 !! how can I do it? |
| 13:33.57 | sinoohe | can any one help me? |
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| 13:34.11 | cram_leak | a gtk theme cannot be applied to Qt applications |
| 13:34.44 | sinoohe | crackhead_25_: thanks |
| 13:34.51 | annma | ;) |
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| 13:35.21 | mark_alec | is sure he doesn't do any drugs |
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| 13:37.30 | Jucato | mark_alec: actually... |
| 13:37.47 | Jucato | http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/05/13/introducing-qgtkstyle/ |
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| 13:38.29 | Jucato | it's not yet finished though afaik |
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| 13:38.58 | Half-Left | yer looks cool |
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| 13:39.23 | Jucato | *if* you find GTK themes cool I guess :) |
| 13:39.57 | Half-Left | The idea is cool |
| 13:40.20 | linoob | how do i restart kwin? |
| 13:40.25 | mark_alec | Jucato: cool, i didn't know that |
| 13:40.28 | dwins | kwin --replace& |
| 13:40.29 | Jucato | "kwin --replace" |
| 13:40.30 | dwins | linoob: ^^ |
| 13:40.46 | Jucato | you need the & if you're doing it from the command line |
| 13:41.01 | linoob | thanks |
| 13:41.23 | linoob | any idea why sometimes kwin doesnt start with kde? |
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| 13:44.28 | linoob | any idea why kwin did not start with kde? |
| 13:46.33 | linoob | !ping |
| 13:46.57 | annma | what distro? what kde? |
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| 13:47.10 | azibu | i have kde 4.1 beta 1 |
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| 13:47.16 | azibu | is nepomuk working? |
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| 13:48.05 | annma | azibu: where it is implemented it is working |
| 13:48.21 | annma | it has to be implemented in a KDE app to work |
| 13:48.24 | azibu | how can i check? |
| 13:48.26 | annma | ti be used |
| 13:48.32 | annma | what app? |
| 13:48.35 | linoob | any idea why kwin did not start with kde? |
| 13:48.35 | azibu | i have opensuse 11 |
| 13:48.42 | annma | linoob: what distro? |
| 13:48.47 | annma | azibu: ask them |
| 13:48.53 | azibu | sure.. |
| 13:49.09 | azibu | i have opensuse 11 beta 1 with kde 4.1 beat 1 |
| 13:49.17 | azibu | i activated nepomuk in system settings |
| 13:49.21 | annma | so where do you want nepomuk? |
| 13:49.33 | linoob | annma: arch, but it wasnt broken in some update, it worked well, then after a reboot its all wacky, and after several reboot it seems to be ok again |
| 13:49.40 | azibu | but my .strugi folder is still 12.6 kb ( nothing has been indexed ) |
| 13:50.02 | annma | linoob: if kwin doe snot start then it's still wacky |
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| 13:50.18 | annma | azibu: enable strigi iindexing and restart |
| 13:50.28 | annma | linoob: ask support in your distro channel |
| 13:50.48 | linoob | well, it started fine, after a reboot, it doesnt start, then another reboot it started again, now i think it finally gave out |
| 13:51.07 | azibu | how? |
| 13:51.21 | annma | in system settings |
| 13:51.24 | azibu | i did it in system setting.. but it don't work |
| 13:51.41 | pinotree | linoob: which version of kde are you using? and installed how? |
| 13:51.44 | annma | did you restart? if it doe snot work, ask your distro channel, suse patches kde a lot |
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| 13:51.59 | azibu | tell me a command to restart it |
| 13:52.06 | azibu | so i can see the output |
| 13:52.14 | annma | startx |
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| 13:52.59 | linoob | pinotree: using kdemod actually, i can fix it by going "kwin --replace" in konsole after it starts, but its well, annoying |
| 13:53.42 | pinotree | linoob: then please ask in the archlinux channel. kdemod is a set of modifications on top of kde, so they should help you |
| 13:53.52 | linoob | pinotree: k thanks |
| 13:54.03 | azibu | i did strigidaemon start |
| 13:54.06 | azibu | crash :S |
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| 13:54.54 | annma | paste bt in pastebin please azibu |
| 13:55.08 | azibu | it's on virtuak box |
| 13:55.10 | azibu | wait |
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| 13:55.24 | seria-mau | hi |
| 13:55.39 | seria-mau | how can i disable smooth scrolling in kde4.1? it really slows things down |
| 13:56.20 | azibu | http://rafb.net/p/Vewbf216.html |
| 13:56.27 | pinotree | in the konqueror settings |
| 13:57.33 | azibu | strigi is indexing mmm |
| 13:57.33 | pinotree | azibu: opensuse screwed packages, please ask in #opensuse-kde |
| 13:57.41 | azibu | ok |
| 13:57.49 | azibu | another question.. |
| 13:57.59 | azibu | now we can tag files.. add comment to files |
| 13:58.15 | azibu | search for a file trought strigi\krunner ? |
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| 13:59.42 | jo4 | hey, where is the neceserray (dunno how to spell that) stuff for the xmms-kde-panel-plugin? i mean, where on my system? |
| 14:00.25 | annma | shouldn't that distro tell that for you? |
| 14:00.34 | annma | shouldn't yourdistro tell that for you? |
| 14:00.48 | pinotree | jo4: xmms is dead, no need to its compile stuff |
| 14:01.20 | seria-mau | pinotree: and how can i set this system wide? embedded khtml component in akregator still does smooth scrolling |
| 14:01.34 | jo4 | no idea, it's removed from the repos (kubuntu) and i only took a snapshot of my system before i (had to) reinstall it. now, yead xmms is dead, but i still want it |
| 14:01.39 | pinotree | it should |
| 14:01.59 | i_is_cat | had to reinstall? |
| 14:02.01 | i_is_cat | HAD TO? |
| 14:02.03 | i_is_cat | pffft |
| 14:02.53 | jo4 | hehe, yeah well, 5 hours vs 30 min |
| 14:03.38 | linoob | where do i set which program i want to auto start with kde? |
| 14:03.41 | i_is_cat | time is money |
| 14:03.46 | jo4 | indeed |
| 14:04.33 | jo4 | i neeeeed the xmms-plugin.. i hate audacious and i can't really find any other thing i like.. |
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| 14:05.06 | i_is_cat | whats wrong with amarok |
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| 14:06.31 | annma | what is this panel plugin? |
| 14:06.49 | jo4 | i live with three girls and we have a public music directory where they can put their shit.. you can immagine the lack of "system" in that directory and not even half of it is tagged properly |
| 14:07.21 | annma | what is this panel plugin? |
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| 14:07.49 | jo4 | it's the thingy that was on my kde panel.. where i can press play, next, volume etc |
| 14:08.24 | jo4 | i gotta go now, but if anyone has a suggestion to me, please.. i need the plugin.. or something |
| 14:08.46 | annma | what kde version at least |
| 14:08.59 | mohankumar | does konqueror support bluetooth:// protocol ? |
| 14:09.18 | mohankumar | when i try "bluetooth://" in konqueror it says unsupported protocol |
| 14:09.19 | Jucato | jo4: Media Control panel applet? from kdeaddons? |
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| 14:09.39 | jo4 | annma, 3.5 .. i just found out that it's not a stand-alone plugin. it's the Media Control plugin, but it has no xmms support |
| 14:09.42 | hdevalence | where would I report a problem with Konqueror from SVN? |
| 14:09.49 | jo4 | Jucato, yeah, sorry, i didn't know that *shame* :P |
| 14:09.56 | annma | ahh |
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| 14:10.50 | jo4 | but if i copy it from the snapshot i have of my old system.... but i dunno where to look |
| 14:11.57 | annma | jo4: your distro will know where it installs stuff |
| 14:12.20 | annma | ask them the package name then look at its content |
| 14:12.42 | jo4 | annma, ok, i'll check it when i get back |
| 14:12.42 | jo4 | ty |
| 14:12.44 | annma | does not remember this kde3 stuff |
| 14:12.55 | ELITE_x | hey annma :D |
| 14:13.01 | annma | well I always had my own kde anyway ;) |
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| 14:13.23 | annma | wasn't this kde3 thing developed last millenium? |
| 14:13.35 | annma | ;) |
| 14:13.52 | Jucato | annma: just last century ;) |
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| 14:16.04 | thiago | actually, no |
| 14:16.24 | thiago | it came out in 2001 |
| 14:17.02 | Jucato | :D |
| 14:17.25 | kdepepo | hdevalence, if you are sure it is a bug in Konqueror: http://bugs.kde.org/ |
| 14:17.55 | annma | I was careful to say "developed" |
| 14:18.01 | kdepepo | hey, I am still using KDE 3, too :) |
| 14:18.11 | annma | I was joking |
| 14:18.19 | kdepepo | KDE 4/Qt 4 have too many regressions still. |
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| 14:19.00 | hdevalence | kdepepo: well, I think it might be in konqueror or maybe khtml... the problem is that when I go to this website, Konq feels the need to expand the width of the window past the edge of my screen |
| 14:19.21 | kdepepo | hdevalence, disable JavaScript ;) |
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| 14:19.39 | hdevalence | it doesn't happen in FF |
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| 14:20.21 | kdepepo | hdevalence, include that website's Url in the bug report. |
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| 14:21.29 | WalterCool | hey, im trying kde4.1 an i cant use opengl acceleration :S |
| 14:21.44 | WalterCool | i only see a white screen |
| 14:21.58 | Zarin | What happens when you right-click? |
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| 14:22.19 | WalterCool | right click? |
| 14:22.39 | Zarin | Yeah, I also had a white screen when I started 4.1 |
| 14:23.22 | Zarin | No idea what the problem was but it fixed itself after playing around with plasma widgets |
| 14:23.23 | WalterCool | Zarin: And how you solved it? |
| 14:23.35 | WalterCool | mmm |
| 14:23.45 | Zarin | When I right-clicked it came up with the normal desktop context menu |
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| 14:24.06 | Zarin | Are you running on a single or multiple monitors? |
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| 14:24.18 | Zarin | What graphics card and driver? |
| 14:24.30 | annma | WalterCool: new user? |
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| 14:24.53 | WalterCool | Zarin: intel 910, driver 810 mesa |
| 14:24.59 | WalterCool | annma: New user in kde4.1 |
| 14:25.07 | WalterCool | old in kde3.5 and 4.0 |
| 14:25.11 | hdevalence | kdepepo: in the b.k.o/query.cgi page, that's searching to make sure I don't file a duplicate bug, correct? |
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| 14:26.08 | kdepepo | hdevalence, well, try to find a duplicate, but it happens often that you wont find one even if there is. This should not prevent you from submitting it. |
| 14:26.13 | annma | WalterCool: I suggest you try with a brand new user |
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| 14:26.29 | kdepepo | WalterCool, do you start a second X session? |
| 14:26.31 | annma | or set a new KDEHOME |
| 14:26.52 | WalterCool | annma: nope |
| 14:26.59 | annma | nope? |
| 14:27.05 | WalterCool | sorry... was for kdepepo |
| 14:27.08 | annma | ;) |
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| 14:27.31 | WalterCool | but i have deleted kde4.0 folder.. |
| 14:27.38 | STSX | I'm using knetworkmanager 0.2.2, and when I select the "offline mode", it does not disable my wireless connection like the manual claims--I can still access the internet just fine. Any ideas why this is? |
| 14:27.56 | kdepepo | my experience is either a complete white screen or a complete black screen. both can usually be fixed by deleting kwinrc |
| 14:28.16 | annma | WalterCool: as you want |
| 14:28.51 | kdepepo | and once I have GL working, I should be damn sure that I dont ever touch kwinrc again, or it wont boot up the next time. |
| 14:29.00 | WalterCool | kdepepo: Mmmm... is strange because i have deleted 3 times kde4.1 and still with probllems... |
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| 14:29.24 | WalterCool | annma: But what you mean with set a new kdehome? |
| 14:29.54 | annma | export KDEHOME= |
| 14:29.58 | annma | the start kde4 |
| 14:30.10 | Jejem | then* |
| 14:30.16 | annma | but a new user would test it better, you can delete it after |
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| 14:30.24 | annma | thanks Jejem |
| 14:30.33 | annma | assigns Jejem to spell checking |
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| 14:30.37 | shevy | so when will kde-4.1 replace kde-3 :> |
| 14:30.53 | kdepepo | shevy, end of july |
| 14:30.54 | annma | when you want it shevy |
| 14:31.01 | shevy | i want it now! |
| 14:31.06 | annma | get the beat |
| 14:31.11 | annma | Jejem: ^^ |
| 14:31.16 | Jejem | kiss annma |
| 14:31.17 | kdepepo | shevy, you can install beta 4.1 |
| 14:31.18 | The_Ball | kdepepo, which year... |
| 14:31.20 | Jejem | glad to be here to help you ;) |
| 14:31.24 | shevy | hehe |
| 14:31.29 | annma | get the beta shevy |
| 14:31.35 | kdepepo | The_Ball, 2013 :) |
| 14:31.35 | shevy | the year after hurd is ready |
| 14:31.37 | annma | which is a beta though |
| 14:31.49 | WalterCool | wait... let me try... |
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| 14:36.18 | Half-Left | annma, Want your opinion of this mockup I did |
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| 14:47.09 | toma | hi, i want to demo marble, but when i start it, it tells me that it is creating a map, but the progress bar never starts moving... |
| 14:47.42 | WalterCool | nope... still with problems :( |
| 14:48.13 | WalterCool | but i see lot of improvement using kdm 4.0.80 vs 3.5.9 |
| 14:49.03 | annma | toma: #kde-edu |
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| 14:49.18 | annma | toma: start it from konsole to see |
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| 14:52.04 | stephan_ | hi, is there a decop call to asc konqui3 if the page loading is finished? |
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| 14:55.10 | stephan_ | decop = dcop |
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| 14:58.50 | linoob | is around 1k glxgear ok for a nvidia 6200 card? |
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| 14:59.31 | GraveDigger | yes |
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| 15:09.15 | WalterCool | 4.1Beta still buggy :'( |
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| 15:09.54 | annma | how come? |
| 15:10.04 | annma | did you run it then? |
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| 15:10.24 | WalterCool | annma: How is that? |
| 15:10.46 | annma | if you say it is buggy then you run it |
| 15:10.52 | wastrel | hi, having trouble with my X, it hangs when starting KDE, at the splash screen when the disk icon starts to appear, kde 4.1b |
| 15:11.02 | annma | wastrel: distro? |
| 15:11.16 | annma | WalterCool: distro? |
| 15:11.17 | WalterCool | annma: Oh, yeah, resizing taskbar... kwin die sometimes |
| 15:11.22 | wastrel | if i delete ~/.config ~/.kde ~/.kde4 it can login, until i log out again and they're re-created. then it hangs agin |
| 15:11.28 | WalterCool | annma: Gentoo |
| 15:11.39 | annma | kwin "dies" "sometimes" |
| 15:11.48 | wastrel | it's ubuntu hardy with nixternal's 4.1b packages |
| 15:11.52 | annma | panel is not kwin |
| 15:12.08 | annma | wastrel: ask support in #kubuntu-kde |
| 15:12.08 | WalterCool | annma: Oh... sorry... is plasma, right? |
| 15:12.31 | annma | I htink that's the name of the channel wastrel |
| 15:12.48 | annma | not sure how panel can kill kwin |
| 15:12.49 | wastrel | it's #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 15:12.55 | annma | :) |
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| 15:13.42 | WalterCool | annma: And i can notice some opengl apps works slowly :S |
| 15:13.48 | WalterCool | than 3.5 |
| 15:13.58 | annma | some opengl apps? which ones? |
| 15:16.13 | WalterCool | annma: well, glxgears displays less fps than kde3.5 |
| 15:17.16 | WalterCool | annma: with 3.5 i got `~470 fps, in 4.1B i got ~200 |
| 15:17.18 | annma | that's it? |
| 15:17.24 | annma | really? |
| 15:17.29 | WalterCool | yup |
| 15:17.33 | annma | why is that? |
| 15:17.43 | jazka | desktop effects enabled? |
| 15:17.47 | annma | is glxgears dependent on kde? |
| 15:17.57 | WalterCool | jazka: i cant get it work... |
| 15:18.08 | WalterCool | glxgears is a opengl test app |
| 15:18.17 | annma | yes WalterCool I know that |
| 15:18.30 | annma | I am wondering why kde4 can influence it |
| 15:18.36 | annma | how do you run it? |
| 15:18.42 | WalterCool | glxgears? |
| 15:19.59 | WalterCool | maybe is using more graphic resources.. a graph problem... idk |
| 15:20.00 | annma | I am loading a bt so anyway it's very slow |
| 15:20.16 | alediaferia | WalterCool: do you have kwin effects enabled? |
| 15:20.30 | WalterCool | annma: If you are using desktop effects can work slow |
| 15:20.36 | annma | it's not terminal based WalterCool |
| 15:20.45 | WalterCool | alediaferia: Nope... i have a white screen xD |
| 15:20.46 | annma | WalterCool: I am working on kde4 |
| 15:21.05 | WalterCool | annma: Oh... ic :O |
| 15:21.18 | annma | when my laptop is loading a backtrace and compiling 3 things then it heats and slows everything |
| 15:21.30 | annma | so I can't measure anything |
| 15:21.42 | alediaferia | WalterCool: XD, my glxgears goes from 19834 to 25515 fps disabling kwin effects |
| 15:21.54 | annma | puts it on a book again to ease ventilation |
| 15:21.55 | WalterCool | annma: ouch! |
| 15:22.19 | annma | but kde4 works well, some effects eat CPU though like snow |
| 15:22.25 | WalterCool | alediaferia: Uhmmm... can be a compilation problem? |
| 15:22.39 | WalterCool | annma: But thats normal |
| 15:23.07 | alediaferia | WalterCool: i really don't know.. i feel it's nvidia drivers' fault |
| 15:23.18 | annma | this frames test varies all the time |
| 15:23.30 | annma | can it be trusted? |
| 15:23.51 | WalterCool | alediaferia: thats is anormal xD im using dammed intel drivers |
| 15:24.30 | WalterCool | annma: what frames? |
| 15:24.33 | annma | intel drivers are th ebest |
| 15:24.40 | annma | the glxgears frames |
| 15:24.45 | alediaferia | WalterCool: i'm using beta nvidia drivers.. btw intel drivers are known to have excellent performances on kde :D |
| 15:24.59 | annma | 8065 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1612.884 FPS |
| 15:25.00 | annma | 3458 frames in 5.1 seconds = 683.669 FPS |
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| 15:25.05 | WalterCool | My eeepc doesnnt |
| 15:25.07 | annma | isn't that weird? |
| 15:25.16 | WalterCool | annma: LOL |
| 15:25.23 | Half-Left | glxgears it not a benchmark anyway |
| 15:25.27 | annma | ah see |
| 15:25.40 | Half-Left | I play Eve Online and it's still smooth with compositing on |
| 15:25.42 | annma | you can make it do anything and everything |
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| 15:26.12 | WalterCool | Half-Left: Niiice :O |
| 15:26.22 | WalterCool | annma: Of try? |
| 15:26.57 | Half-Left | Get 50-70fps with Compositing on and full settings 1440x900 |
| 15:27.02 | annma | anyway I need to go cooking while my laptop cools down |
| 15:27.33 | Half-Left | annma, Just use your laptop to fry eggs :p |
| 15:27.38 | wastrel | if i remove ~/.config/Trolltech.conf then i can login |
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| 15:27.59 | WalterCool | Half-Left: Thats a reallity :P |
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| 15:29.48 | WalterCool | wow.. congrats to konqueror team, nice results in acid3 tests |
| 15:30.15 | Half-Left | composting on =43697 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8739.358 FPS |
| 15:30.35 | Half-Left | composting off =71693 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14338.451 FPS |
| 15:30.44 | WalterCool | Half-Left: You are using a 9900 Nvidia card? xD |
| 15:30.54 | Half-Left | 7800GTX |
| 15:31.07 | WalterCool | wow, niice |
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| 15:39.50 | Half-Left | waits for 4.1beta2 |
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| 16:00.49 | mitko | Hi, Is there a way to tell konsole not to wrap lines and display a horizontal scrollbar? |
| 16:04.14 | Phlogi | how can I make krunner calculate? |
| 16:06.45 | alediaferia | Phologi: =operation e.g. =4+1 |
| 16:07.26 | alediaferia | Phlogi* ^^ |
| 16:08.18 | illogic-al | thiago: ping |
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| 16:09.48 | thiago | illogic-al: pong |
| 16:09.58 | thiago | mitko: no |
| 16:10.07 | illogic-al | thiago: is os x considered OS_UNIX? |
| 16:10.10 | thiago | mitko: konsole needs to present to the terminal a fixed size |
| 16:10.12 | thiago | illogic-al: yes |
| 16:10.22 | illogic-al | I want to try that patch you blogged about today. |
| 16:10.32 | mitko | thiago: thanks |
| 16:10.37 | illogic-al | okie dokie. thank you sir thiago :-) |
| 16:10.43 | thiago | illogic-al: Q_OS_UNIX == Q_WS_X11 + Q_WS_MAC + Q_WS_QWS |
| 16:10.53 | thiago | illogic-al: in other words, Windows is the only odd man out. |
| 16:11.42 | illogic-al | thought so. just wanted to make sure before i began my 3 hour long journey w/ qt again :-) |
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| 16:13.19 | thiago | yeah, I know the feeling |
| 16:13.23 | thiago | building Mac packages takes 9 hours |
| 16:13.44 | thiago | opensource + commercial + eval |
| 16:14.00 | thiago | each build takes 3 hours; each file is built 4 times in each built (two architectures, debug and release) |
| 16:14.41 | illogic-al | wooow. |
| 16:14.49 | illogic-al | I thought i had it bad :-) |
| 16:16.24 | thiago | so it takes 45 minutes for each individual arch-license-debug combination |
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| 16:23.45 | Phlogi | anyone tried step? my graphs and meters just stay empty |
| 16:24.02 | Phlogi | ah opengl :S |
| 16:24.04 | Phlogi | jup |
| 16:24.21 | thiago | NVidia? |
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| 16:29.32 | tinin | hi, anyone running kde from svn? |
| 16:29.43 | j00bar | greetz from scenic quincy, massachusetts, home of the fsf colocation facility -- dirk around? |
| 16:29.54 | flaccid | i have a user who reports no remote:/ in konqueror why could that be? also how do you manually call add network folder program? |
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| 16:35.38 | flaccid | ok knetattach for the latter |
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| 16:48.35 | ke4qqq | i hate to be stupid - but in KDE3.x there was an option to not load the apps that were up at previous shutdown - I can't seem to find that in KDE4 - can anyone point me to that? |
| 16:49.57 | ann_away | ke4qqq: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager |
| 16:50.30 | ke4qqq | ann_away: thanks very much! |
| 16:52.38 | Milo- | I need a system-wide double-click-gesture for one of my mouse's buttons, how would I do that? |
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| 16:54.37 | ann_away | Milo-: kcontrol or system settings |
| 16:54.44 | ann_away | depending on kde version |
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| 17:01.47 | Milo- | hmm i can see konqueror gestures |
| 17:01.49 | Milo- | but nothing else :/ |
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| 17:15.09 | hyperdude | there isn't this much traffic in here ?! |
| 17:16.31 | pedepy | no. |
| 17:19.42 | cb400f | hyperdude: it's the kde support channel.. of course it's low traffic.. noone has problems ;-) |
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| 17:22.01 | illogic-al | thiago: touching the qglobal.cpp file doesn't start a recompilation of all of qt. |
| 17:22.20 | illogic-al | very nifty. i'm actually done compiling within two minutes. |
| 17:22.59 | illogic-al | never before have I ever been so happy to forget to make distclean after installing qt. |
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| 17:26.29 | plota | hello, i tried putting a startkde line in my startx script but it crashes on me, i just want to make sure that the xserver doesn't listen on tcp ports, i tried a couple other commands and it wouldn't go |
| 17:26.48 | plota | also my / turns into a accented e in konsole |
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| 17:27.37 | plota | only things i seen in the startkde script for startx is X"$DISPLAY" then startx or something like that, does that run it every time? |
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| 17:30.56 | illogic-al | plota: opengl and composite is probably the culprit here. |
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| 17:31.30 | illogic-al | i have the same issue on my card which can't do accelerated gfx. |
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| 17:32.04 | illogic-al | suspects kwin tries to do the fancy stuff but crashes before it can. |
| 17:32.13 | illogic-al | plota: ubuntu? |
| 17:32.14 | plota | i'm just using the nv drivers, glx is commented out i think |
| 17:32.17 | plota | openbsd |
| 17:32.48 | illogic-al | plota: good, then it's probably kde's fault then :-) |
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| 17:34.31 | plota | i didn't see any listening tcp ports open 'case X"$DISPLAY" in X) exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startx $0;; |
| 17:34.53 | plota | that's the only startx in the startkde script, and i put my -nolisten tcp in my startx script |
| 17:35.17 | plota | bah, i gotta finish my shell tutorial :) |
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| 17:37.11 | plota | oh wait, would that concatenate X and "" then start it? that's probably it |
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| 17:42.54 | plota | i don't understand this / problem though, it works fine here |
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| 17:50.27 | bique_a | hello |
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| 17:51.59 | sandsmark | does kopete support authenticating with kerberos? |
| 17:52.28 | kendrick | hey. i've got a kwallet.kwl file from an old PC |
| 17:52.34 | kendrick | can i open it with kwalletmgr??? |
| 17:52.40 | kendrick | i see no "Open" or "Import" :( |
| 17:52.49 | pinotree | file â import? |
| 17:53.14 | bique_a | Does custom shortcut in khotkeys works (kde 4.1 svn) ? |
| 17:53.20 | sandsmark | or just drag and drop it into the kwallet window |
| 17:53.32 | sandsmark | bique_a: I think so |
| 17:54.06 | bique_a | sandsmark, because i set my shortcuts like Meta+T to run my term and it doesn't work |
| 17:54.40 | sandsmark | bique_a: someone on the kdemod forums claimed it worked after they got the last updates (4.0.81, I think) |
| 17:55.08 | bique_a | sandsmark, i should update khotkeys ? |
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| 17:55.15 | sandsmark | I don't know =) |
| 17:55.19 | bique_a | ^^ |
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| 17:56.55 | sandsmark | Global shortcuts are still borked in Amarok, but they work in systemsettings. Plasma seems to remember settings more consistently now, too. |
| 17:57.00 | sandsmark | ^quote |
| 17:57.13 | sandsmark | http://kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?pid=4314#p4314 |
| 17:57.47 | bique_a | sandsmark, it works ;-) |
| 17:57.54 | sandsmark | nice =) |
| 17:58.20 | q4a | hi all, i want use Orca in kde.. on official sike Orca: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-c942e13e9d28fc0b24b42f8e3af75869a3a8ab1e write: |
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| 17:58.21 | q4a | "No. KDE currently does not support the AT-SPI. There's some work being done to make the AT-SPI more amenable to the KDE folks." Will kde4 support AT-SPI? |
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| 17:58.41 | sandsmark | wtf is it? |
| 17:58.42 | sandsmark | =) |
| 17:59.05 | q4a | u about me or Orca? |
| 17:59.14 | annma | what is orca |
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| 17:59.23 | annma | and what is At-SPI |
| 17:59.25 | q4a | Orca is screan reader |
| 17:59.30 | thiago_home | kttsd |
| 17:59.31 | sandsmark | like ktts? |
| 18:00.17 | q4a | kttsd, ktts - i dont know what is it.. |
| 18:00.36 | sandsmark | q4a: it is a generic text-to-speech system for KDE |
| 18:01.17 | q4a | sandsmark - in kde i use festival (text-to-speech enine) |
| 18:01.29 | q4a | but i need screan reader |
| 18:01.31 | q4a | ... |
| 18:01.41 | q4a | *screen |
| 18:01.42 | sandsmark | ktts can use festival, afaik |
| 18:01.54 | kendrick | ok, there's no File->Import in kwalletmgr |
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| 18:02.13 | sandsmark | kendrick: just drag the file into the friggin window... |
| 18:02.16 | kendrick | dragging-and-dropping didn't seem to work |
| 18:02.20 | kendrick | ugh, ok, lemme try again |
| 18:02.23 | q4a | sandsmark - thx, i'll try it |
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| 18:02.46 | sandsmark | q4a: you can also look into kmouth or ksayit, though I don't know much about them |
| 18:02.54 | kendrick | backs up his NEW wallet and removes it |
| 18:02.54 | kendrick | sigh |
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| 18:03.18 | sandsmark | kendrick: ... |
| 18:03.43 | kendrick | both wallets have the same name; one from my old pc, one from my new: "kwallet" (aka kwallet.kwl) |
| 18:04.03 | kendrick | an ok finally |
| 18:04.16 | q4a | sandsmark - i use ksayit - its only gui for engines.. i install kmouth, but not try yet.. |
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| 18:04.22 | kendrick | so what do i do about my NEW wallet's entries; is there any way to merge them? |
| 18:04.22 | sandsmark | ok |
| 18:04.26 | kendrick | or is it safe to have two wallets running? |
| 18:04.33 | kendrick | 'kdewallet' and 'kdewallet_new'? :) |
| 18:04.47 | sandsmark | q4a: also, it seems there is either going to be, or is already, support for at-spi in Qt (which is what KDE is built on) |
| 18:05.18 | q4a | sandsmark - thats great news =) |
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| 18:05.23 | sandsmark | =) |
| 18:06.20 | sandsmark | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/qt4-accessibility.html describes it for qt 4.0, and the current version is qt 4.4 =) |
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| 18:10.34 | wastrel | how do i fix my ~/.config/Trolltech.conf file? |
| 18:10.46 | MaxHeadroom | Hello, what does this message tip that digikam mean? and why does it have a question mark? "... that because the PNG file format uses a lossless compression algorithm, you can use the max compression level with this file format?" |
| 18:11.03 | pinotree | wastrel: #qt |
| 18:11.41 | pinotree | MaxHeadroom: probably because the header of the tip dialog says "did you know that... ?" |
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| 18:12.49 | bique_a | is it easy to share the desktop configuration between multiples kde through svn or git ? |
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| 18:13.31 | MaxHeadroom | pinotree: ok, I missed that header, makes sense then, kind of weird way to present the tip |
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| 18:15.44 | hayig2000 | hi all, is konversation available for kde4? |
| 18:15.59 | sandsmark | no |
| 18:16.19 | hayig2000 | any alternative |
| 18:16.31 | annma | konversation for kde3 |
| 18:16.41 | sandsmark | quassel |
| 18:16.49 | sandsmark | is an excellent qt4 client =) |
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| 18:16.56 | sandsmark | (not close to konversation in features, but nice =) |
| 18:17.27 | hayig2000 | annma, good to see u |
| 18:17.46 | blauzahl-laptop_ | hayig2000: konversation is scheduled to get ported RSN |
| 18:17.53 | annma | hi hayig2000 :) |
| 18:18.03 | sandsmark | well, it has another release planned for kde 3 first, hasn't it? |
| 18:18.13 | blauzahl-laptop_ | um, i'm pretty sur enot? |
| 18:18.20 | annma | is quassel free now? |
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| 18:18.32 | sandsmark | hasn't it always been? |
| 18:18.34 | blauzahl-laptop_ | well, maybe, the svn version seems to have some pretty heavy changes |
| 18:18.42 | annma | sandsmark: thereare no sources |
| 18:18.52 | sandsmark | annma: yes? |
| 18:19.03 | sandsmark | annma: they kept everything under wraps for a while though (both binaries and source) |
| 18:19.18 | sandsmark | but I think it has always been free software |
| 18:19.24 | annma | so my question is: are the sources in now |
| 18:19.30 | hayig2000 | annma, what u use for irc? |
| 18:19.34 | annma | no sources = no free |
| 18:19.38 | annma | konvi from kde3 |
| 18:19.55 | sandsmark | gpl 2+, afaik |
| 18:20.02 | hayig2000 | u have both kde 3 and 4 installed, right? |
| 18:20.10 | sandsmark | annma: no binaries + no sources = maybe free =) |
| 18:20.15 | blauzahl-laptop_ | hayig2000: that's what i do |
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| 18:21.05 | hayig2000 | that question was for annma |
| 18:22.29 | annma | I hate this philosophy or "nearly free" or so |
| 18:22.37 | annma | hayig2000: yes |
| 18:22.43 | annma | hayig2000: you only need the libs |
| 18:22.56 | annma | I have the desktop as I did some 3.5 backports |
| 18:23.02 | sandsmark | annma: it is completely free, but they didn't release the program until it was finished, but then they released everything (sources included), afaik |
| 18:23.14 | sandsmark | (finished meaning it worked more or less9 |
| 18:23.15 | sandsmark | *) |
| 18:23.28 | annma | last time I checked there was no souces included |
| 18:23.42 | annma | I did not ask for them as I don't find that nice anyway |
| 18:23.44 | sandsmark | annma: I only compile it from sources =) |
| 18:24.02 | hayig2000 | annma, does knotify keeps crashing on your system? |
| 18:24.05 | annma | it was recently and there was no compile to do |
| 18:24.10 | annma | no crash at all hayig2000 |
| 18:24.21 | annma | hayig2000: do you have a backtrace? |
| 18:24.24 | sandsmark | they even use a public git repo to develop |
| 18:24.35 | hayig2000 | i get nothing |
| 18:24.44 | sandsmark | and, it's included in Debian, so it must be free software =P |
| 18:24.52 | annma | sandsmark: believe me, the sources were not in. Glad to know they are included now |
| 18:25.08 | blauzahl-laptop_ | hayig2000: you're right. 1.1 is about to come out http://konversation.kde.org/ |
| 18:25.41 | sandsmark | annma: they have separate downloads for binaries and sources, though, maybe you only downloaded the binary |
| 18:25.42 | annma | personally I won't go away from konvi anyway, it's my secret love |
| 18:25.45 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 18:26.00 | annma | I prefer KDE stuff over qt for the look |
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| 18:26.20 | sandsmark | indeed, konversation is a much better client, but i don't want Qt3/kdelibs3 installed =) |
| 18:27.25 | Sput | annma: the sources have always been in, and we opened our svn for anonymous access the day we made the first release. |
| 18:28.26 | annma | they have been packaged with? |
| 18:28.59 | hayig2000 | blauzahl-laptop_ :thx for the link |
| 18:29.17 | Sput | and if you asked, you could have gotten everything under GPL before that too, we just didn't want everybody and their grandma to download unfinished code without informing themselves first. |
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| 18:29.35 | Sput | packaged with? you can get them via svn (git now) and nightly tarballs |
| 18:30.03 | annma | hmmm |
| 18:30.12 | annma | I see |
| 18:30.20 | annma | (I don't but hell) |
| 18:30.22 | Sput | we always used GPL, and you can't blame us for not opening our svn for anonymous access before we even got a first sort of working release out |
| 18:30.56 | hayig2000 | sandsmark: which irc client u use? |
| 18:31.03 | sandsmark | quassel |
| 18:31.09 | annma | I was just asking if the sources were available, that's all |
| 18:31.15 | Sput | yes, they were. |
| 18:31.18 | annma | don't jump on me |
| 18:31.20 | Sput | and still are, of course |
| 18:31.31 | Sput | ah well, you've been calling us "unfree" repeatedly |
| 18:31.37 | Sput | I call that FUD |
| 18:31.43 | annma | hey! |
| 18:31.53 | sandsmark | Sput: she was just defending her loved one =) |
| 18:32.08 | annma | sandsmark was not very clear |
| 18:32.20 | Sput | seriously, we had that discussion a couple weeks ago already, and she still tells people that there's no source :p |
| 18:32.24 | sandsmark | is sorry |
| 18:32.33 | annma | oh we did |
| 18:32.34 | annma | see |
| 18:32.36 | Sput | yeah |
| 18:32.44 | Sput | and I told you the story back then already :) |
| 18:32.44 | annma | I don't say that |
| 18:32.52 | annma | I said it was not shipped with sources |
| 18:33.00 | Sput | what is "shipped" for you? |
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| 18:33.19 | annma | something I can download easily |
| 18:33.25 | annma | not a anon svn |
| 18:33.50 | sandsmark | http://quassel-irc.org/system/files/quassel-0.2.0-beta1.tar.bz2 ? =) |
| 18:33.54 | Sput | well, no release, no release tarball, right? though we have been providing nightly tarballs for a few months now |
| 18:34.07 | sandsmark | (it is the first link on the download page) |
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| 18:36.25 | hayig2000 | is there an irc client with the bookmark feature? |
| 18:36.57 | pinotree | konversation |
| 18:36.59 | MrGrim | konversation |
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| 18:37.10 | pinotree | wins o/ |
| 18:37.32 | sandsmark | hayig2000: if there's a feature in an IRC client somewhere, it is highly likely that Konversation has it =) |
| 18:37.41 | Sput | except for distributed usage :) |
| 18:37.42 | sandsmark | even graphical smileys =) |
| 18:37.45 | sandsmark | true |
| 18:38.00 | Sput | used konversation before he started IRCing from different machines |
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| 18:38.37 | sandsmark | well, I first used konversation, then started using irssi + screen, and finally found quassel =) |
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| 18:39.58 | hayig2000 | i am installing right now the seamonkey irc.. |
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| 18:41.04 | brendan_ | hi, does anyone know where lancelot svn has gone? The svn link on there site points to a non-existant location |
| 18:41.14 | brendan_ | i've looked through websvn, and can't seem to find it |
| 18:41.30 | annma | brendan_: it is in kdeplasmoids |
| 18:41.34 | Sput | brendan_: it's in kdeplasmoids |
| 18:41.37 | Sput | gah |
| 18:41.40 | Sput | :) |
| 18:41.40 | annma | but was disabled from build as it did not build |
| 18:41.48 | annma | I disabled it, in fact |
| 18:41.50 | Sput | humm? built fine for me today |
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| 18:41.56 | litb | hello there |
| 18:41.59 | litb | any news? |
| 18:42.01 | annma | so Ivan fixed it |
| 18:42.12 | annma | Sput: it did not build for the beta |
| 18:42.28 | sandsmark | litb: yes, a norwegian politician is whining about the violence in age of conan =) |
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| 18:42.37 | litb | is the dolphin-crashe-when-pointed-on-dev/zero-bug fixed yet? |
| 18:42.37 | Sput | never tried the beta |
| 18:42.40 | litb | sandsmark: oh |
| 18:42.41 | annma | it's still disabled though |
| 18:42.49 | annma | Sput: did you enable it then? |
| 18:42.58 | Sput | interesting, I think I say it compile earlier today |
| 18:43.00 | Sput | I'll check |
| 18:43.04 | Sput | *saw |
| 18:43.21 | annma | it is disabled in my CMakeLists.txt |
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| 18:43.49 | Sput | maybe I was mistaken then |
| 18:43.55 | annma | maybe |
| 18:44.08 | annma | Ivan seems to be back so I'll ask him about it |
| 18:44.16 | nykay-kde4_ | hi |
| 18:44.23 | annma | no, not fixed |
| 18:44.54 | annma | and too weird an error for me to fix it |
| 18:44.55 | Sput | hmm, need to check my office machine what I saw there... it's not build indeed here |
| 18:44.57 | Sput | *built |
| 18:45.05 | annma | and it won't build |
| 18:45.15 | annma | you can uncomment the CMakeLists.txt to check |
| 18:46.37 | brendan_ | annma, Sput thanks, i was missing that whole module |
| 18:47.00 | annma | brendan_: but lancelot is disabled |
| 18:47.02 | annma | as I said |
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| 18:51.47 | memek | hi |
| 18:52.20 | memek | who knows why kickoff menu (plasma?) brokes with 1152x864 res? |
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| 18:53.25 | brendan_ | annma, thats fine, i just needed to look at the source anyway |
| 18:53.40 | PeterFA | I ran the menu updater and it's busy updating the system configuration, but it's taking a really long time. |
| 18:53.44 | annma | brendan_: well in any case you can make it build please tell me |
| 18:53.47 | PeterFA | It's been busy for like 15 minutes. |
| 18:53.51 | PeterFA | Is this ok? |
| 18:53.54 | annma | I dislike having it disabled |
| 18:53.59 | PeterFA | There were 22 new apps it detected. |
| 18:54.12 | annma | but I don't have time to look at it nor knowledge probably |
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| 18:54.20 | PeterFA | This is KDE4. |
| 18:54.54 | PeterFA | Should I kill it? |
| 18:55.08 | annma | PeterFA: ask your distro channel |
| 18:55.29 | PeterFA | Crap, still banned from it. |
| 18:55.32 | PeterFA | #kubuntu. |
| 18:55.34 | aseigo | lol |
| 18:55.36 | annma | banned? |
| 18:55.41 | aseigo | PeterFA: let it run. it'll eventually finish |
| 18:55.48 | PeterFA | annma, yeah, that's where they won't let you join. |
| 18:55.54 | annma | were you extra naughty |
| 18:56.18 | annma | what did you do for that |
| 18:56.42 | PeterFA | annma, most likely it's for being an irritating pest. |
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| 18:58.09 | annma | what KDE version did you have |
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| 18:59.20 | brendan_ | should i ask plasmoid development questions in #kde-dev? |
| 18:59.53 | annma | ask here even |
| 19:00.18 | annma | otherwise in #plasma |
| 19:00.25 | brendan_ | ok |
| 19:01.08 | brendan_ | i'm writing a plasmoid that is mean to go in the panel, and it needs to have a unique background color, what is the best way to accomplish this? |
| 19:01.44 | annma | unique color? |
| 19:01.51 | annma | it won't honor theme? |
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| 19:02.03 | annma | you'd better ask in #plasma |
| 19:02.13 | brendan_ | ok |
| 19:02.24 | annma | I like applets following themes |
| 19:02.37 | annma | but I don't knwo how that goes with BackgroundHints |
| 19:02.55 | brendan_ | they don't seem to apply when an applet is on a panel |
| 19:03.57 | annma | well device notifier for ex removes the background when in panel |
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| 19:04.29 | brendan_ | i didn't notice that, i'l have too look at it |
| 19:04.36 | annma | in constraintsEvent() method, you fix the behaviour in panel |
| 19:05.04 | tinin | Is there a windows theme similar to kde4? based on oxigen (to apply to wine) |
| 19:05.20 | annma | windows theme? |
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| 19:05.50 | annma | brendan_: is your applet an icon? |
| 19:05.55 | annma | or more elaborate? |
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| 19:07.42 | brendan_ | its more elaborate, its a title bar applet that shows the icon and title of the active window, allong with a close button |
| 19:08.03 | annma | yes, I went in #plasma ;) |
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| 19:10.55 | peper | hello |
| 19:11.23 | peper | how can I block global shrotcuts like CTRL+FN (switching desktops) for certain apps? |
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| 19:11.36 | peper | "Block global shortcuts" doesn't seem to work ;/ |
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| 19:24.35 | daniel_ | Hi there. Why is there dolphin? |
| 19:24.58 | daniel_ | I mean, there's konqueror already. And I don't see anything exceptionally good with dolphin, and it seems rather unmature. |
| 19:27.27 | pinotree | then don't use it, simple |
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| 19:30.27 | alediaferia | daniel_: dolphin comes as a filebrowser-only, however, not to make regressions, konqueror still keeps the feature of browsing files |
| 19:30.47 | hayig2000 | is arts used in kde4? |
| 19:30.49 | alediaferia | daniel_:btw, as pinotree said, feel free to use konqueror in place of dolphin |
| 19:31.21 | daniel_ | pinotree: I don't have a problem with dolphin. I was just asking what's the reason for it's creation |
| 19:31.25 | GNU\colossus | hayig2000: no |
| 19:31.49 | alediaferia | hayig2000: no, now there's phonon.. |
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| 19:32.07 | daniel_ | alediaferia: I see. Well, the combination of web- and file-browser was really a strange idea. |
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| 19:32.54 | alediaferia | daniel_: i don't find it so strange.. you "browse" the web, and you "browse" your local files :) |
| 19:33.02 | trenton | Hello, kde techbase is dead slow, anyone else see this? |
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| 19:33.42 | tinin | should I be able to navigate from desktop to desktop with the mousewheel over it? It worked in kde3 |
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| 19:36.57 | daniel_ | tinin: It's a configuration |
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| 19:37.10 | tinin | but where? |
| 19:37.17 | daniel | alediaferia: Those are totally uncommon, though. |
| 19:37.30 | daniel | Not only technical |
| 19:37.32 | tinin | it was accesible by right clicking on the desktop in kde3 |
| 19:38.20 | alediaferia | daniel: it's your point.. however KDE is great because highly customizable.. do your choices and use whatever you want :) |
| 19:38.26 | adr3nalin3 | Hello everyone. Is there anything special I need to get the comic strip widget to get to work with xkcd? All of the other comics work except for xkcd. Is this the right place to ask? Thanks. |
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| 19:40.13 | daniel | alediaferia: Yes. It's just that it bugs me if work is done twice. Especially in the open-source scene. |
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| 19:43.39 | alediaferia | daniel: i'm not so sure but i think that konqueror uses a dolphin's part to show files, so no code was written twice :) showing files is just a one-more-feature that could be really useful in a web browser.. btw for kde4 dolphin is the main file browser and konqueror is the main web browser |
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| 19:49.17 | bobesponja | hey |
| 19:49.20 | bobesponja | how do I restart the panel when plasma crashes? I start "plasma" but no |
| 19:50.18 | cga | hi all, kde 4.1b1 rocks =) |
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| 19:50.33 | cga | how do i use gtk-qt-engine-kde4 ?? |
| 19:50.51 | bobesponja | cga: what do you like about it kde 4.1b1? |
| 19:51.08 | cga | i'm still running some gtk apps and i want them to look like kde4 theme |
| 19:52.05 | cga | bobesponja, simply everything. cool looking, great "framework" (thou this might not be the right word) very innovative and more |
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| 19:52.45 | cga | i'm set up for life. i found the desktop i was looking for. |
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| 19:53.42 | cga | so... anyone has suggestions on how to use gtk-qt-engine-kde4 ??? i googled but i didn't find much |
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| 19:55.55 | blauzahl-laptop_ | kquitapp plasma && plasma i think bobesponja |
| 19:56.34 | bobesponja | blauzahl-laptop_: still not |
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| 19:57.18 | bobesponja | w parsing "/home/pat/.local/share/mime/magic" |
| 19:57.19 | bobesponja | pat@dlp:~/svnreps/kdeplasmoids/applets/twitter$ kquitapp plasma && plasma |
| 19:57.19 | bobesponja | <unknown program name>(32645)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x805b0b0 50331649 |
| 19:57.19 | bobesponja | <unknown program name>(32645)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x805a9f8 |
| 19:57.19 | bobesponja | plasma(32645): Communication problem with "plasma" , it probably crashed. |
| 19:57.19 | bobesponja | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " |
| 19:57.38 | bobesponja | blauzahl-laptop_: ^^ |
| 19:57.51 | blauzahl-laptop_ | hmm. i don't know how to read plasma error messages yet, sorry |
| 19:58.45 | annma | bobesponja: rm plasma*rc |
| 19:58.51 | annma | and retry |
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| 20:01.27 | bobesponja | annma: thanks a lot |
| 20:02.11 | annma | it worked? |
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| 20:05.27 | bobesponja | annma: yes it did |
| 20:05.33 | annma | :) |
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| 20:19.55 | bgmiki | http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9985/84619538pk6.png |
| 20:19.56 | bgmiki | :) |
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| 21:05.47 | dr_cherry | I'm running KDE 3.5.4-13el5.centos (on centos) and the Convenience settings don't seem to be working .. any tips here? |
| 21:05.50 | thiago_home | has no idea what Convenience settings are |
| 21:06.16 | dr_cherry | they automatically log you into KDE |
| 21:06.59 | thiago_home | in KDE Control Center, Administration, Login manager? |
| 21:07.03 | dr_cherry | yup .. that one |
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| 21:07.20 | thiago_home | are you using kdm as the login manager? |
| 21:08.19 | dr_cherry | hmmm, how would I check that? |
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| 21:08.54 | thiago_home | are you logged in right now? |
| 21:09.09 | dr_cherry | yup .. machine's right next to this one |
| 21:09.23 | thiago_home | is kdm running? |
| 21:09.44 | dr_cherry | well kde is running |
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| 21:10.05 | thiago_home | that doesn't answer |
| 21:10.07 | thiago_home | check your process list |
| 21:10.10 | thiago_home | is kdm listed? |
| 21:10.12 | dr_cherry | nope |
| 21:10.26 | thiago_home | that's why then |
| 21:10.30 | thiago_home | your kdm settings apply to... kdm :-) |
| 21:10.35 | dr_cherry | ahhhh. |
| 21:10.47 | thiago_home | you're using something else |
| 21:10.49 | thiago_home | probably gdm |
| 21:11.04 | dr_cherry | gdm-binary is in there |
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| 21:11.19 | dr_cherry | how do i use kdm instead of gdm? |
| 21:11.19 | thiago_home | ask in #centos |
| 21:11.23 | dr_cherry | kk |
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| 21:11.46 | tgurr | can someone tell me where to appeal to if I've lost my @kdetalk.net password? kdetalk.net site seems to be not reachable here :/ |
| 21:12.10 | thiago_home | sysadmin@kde.org |
| 21:12.18 | thiago_home | do you mean your email forwarding or the Jabber server? |
| 21:13.01 | plota | i got that figured out, the xorgconf -textmode utility generated some kind of messed up conf file |
| 21:13.48 | tgurr | thiago_home: the jabber account |
| 21:14.23 | thiago_home | then don't bother |
| 21:14.31 | thiago_home | the server is having problems |
| 21:14.44 | thiago_home | building ejabberd is extremely difficult |
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| 21:15.41 | tgurr | thiago_home: ah what a pitty :/ can't get kopete to connect to gmail's jabber so I gotta live without jabber for a while I guess. But thanks for the information! :) |
| 21:15.52 | GNU\colossus | yeah; `emerge ejabberd` |
| 21:15.53 | GNU\colossus | ;) |
| 21:16.30 | thiago_home | GNU\colossus: the servers don't use Gentoo |
| 21:16.38 | thiago_home | (because the admin is a SUSE employee) |
| 21:17.02 | GNU\colossus | ah, politics :D |
| 21:17.15 | GNU\colossus | processone provides sensible binaries, though |
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| 21:20.08 | deamon3 | hey |
| 21:20.15 | deamon3 | how can i intall themes ?¿ |
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| 21:23.57 | plota | i think my themese came in a kdeartwork package |
| 21:24.05 | plota | with screensavers and stuff |
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| 21:29.40 | dr_cherry | btw that setting was DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" |
| 21:29.43 | dr_cherry | not KDM |
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| 22:08.13 | adz21c | hi, i am using the kubuntu 4.1 beta 1 packages, imap via kmail (for addressbook for example) in kontact doesn't seem to work for me (i get no contacts and when i try to create one it says no writable resource). Is this a known bug or anything? |
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| 22:08.27 | martijn81 | hi, is knetworkmanager working on kubuntu 8.04 with kde4? |
| 22:09.21 | adz21c | martijn81: should keep that to kubuntu channels really, but yea it seems to work for me ... not that i need it but it launches everytime i log in and doesn't crash or anything. Its a kde3 app tho, no kde4 packages (not sure if its been ported to kde4 yet) |
| 22:10.17 | martijn81 | adz21c: yeah, i tried to start it up too, but it does not seem to startup |
| 22:10.49 | adz21c | martijn81: moving this to kubuntu channels :-) |
| 22:10.58 | javo | hi. i recently updated to kde4 in my debian lenny. But kdm now boots up in a different resolution (1280x1024) instead the indicated on xorg.conf (1680x1050) and i have to change it by-hand once logged to kdm. Is this normal? How can i solve it ? |
| 22:11.01 | martijn81 | but in the kde4 channel they do not respond |
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| 22:14.25 | javo | btw i dont like the way that icons in the desktop are threated.. i can't select more than one at once, and they come back again after remove them on next boot (i remove them with the red x in the "new sqare around the icon" |
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| 22:18.50 | Level2Tech | hola |
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| 22:34.05 | mabro951 | when running kde3 apps in a kde4 desktop, how can I turn off kde3 global shortcuts? some of them conflict with kde4's shortcuts. |
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| 22:44.19 | A-litb | hm |
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| 22:44.36 | litb | does the QGtkStyle does work within KDE too? |
| 22:44.58 | litb | i want to make qt use this good gtk style :) |
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| 22:47.14 | Hijacker | hi! i'm experiencing weird behaviour with the "left handed" mouse option. whenever i unplug my mouse and plug it in again, it still shows as "left handed" in the control center, but it acts as right handed. i already asked GraveDigger if he can reproduce it, but he was unable to do so. using kde 3.5.9, xorg 7.3 on gentoo. any ideas? |
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| 22:48.54 | Mousey | hi, anybody know how to get luks excrypted devices to automount like in gnome? i tried installing krypt [both the latest packaged, and from svn] and it just ignores my encrypted drives.. any insight? |
| 22:49.36 | Mousey | oh, kde version 3.5.9 |
| 22:50.28 | Mousey | all the utopia project components (hal,udev,dbus,pmount) and cryptsetup and whatnot all are installed and work |
| 22:50.51 | Mousey | manually mounting and unmounting of encrypted partitions work |
| 22:51.25 | Mousey | but automounting no workey |
| 22:51.30 | Mousey | *cry* |
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