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| 00:01.57 | MaartenB_ | hi guys, I am looking for a decent desktop search tool for KDE 4 |
| 00:02.11 | MaartenB_ | strigi seems nice, but I can't find the GUI (on Fedora 9) :( |
| 00:03.00 | MoonStorm | cheko, that is what konq-kim used to do |
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| 00:24.20 | tinin | can I have the minimization effet similar to mac in kde4? |
| 00:26.53 | Jucato | you'll have to try to explain in more detail. not everyone would know what that is :) |
| 00:27.41 | tinin | it is difficult to explain |
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| 00:28.33 | tinin | it is like a gradual maximization, like the magic lamp effect in compiz |
| 00:28.33 | Jucato | so can you imagine how difficult it is to imagine for people who don't even own or have used a mac? :D |
| 00:29.10 | Jucato | Desktop Effects -> Minimize Animation? |
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| 00:30.22 | tinin | well, this is not configurable |
| 00:30.34 | tinin | it only uses a zoom effect |
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| 00:31.06 | Jucato | so "can I have the minimation effect...?" |
| 00:31.15 | Jucato | yes, only if there's a plugin available for it :D |
| 00:31.30 | Jucato | currently no one has made one so I guess not |
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| 01:14.00 | Lanken | !kde4 |
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| 01:14.18 | Lanken | herm..can someone query the bot about kde4 for me? |
| 01:14.39 | alesan | !kde4? |
| 01:14.43 | Kage_Jittai | we have a bot? |
| 01:14.55 | alesan | I am writing a service menu |
| 01:15.08 | alesan | I have read that if I cannot use %u twice |
| 01:15.18 | alesan | why is that? how can I overcome the limitation? |
| 01:15.26 | alesan | Exec=/bin/bash -c "convert %u -resize 300x300 ~/temp/$(basename %u)" |
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| 01:18.16 | Lanken | there used to be a bot |
| 01:18.25 | Lanken | like a year ago when I used to be in here more |
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| 01:18.59 | hellhound_ | when i am given a browse for file option i notice alot of cool links on the left hand side such as download, pictures videos and templates.... is there a way to change the link to these shortcuts to point to a different location? |
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| 01:29.19 | hellhound | when i am given a browse for file option i notice alot of cool links on the left hand side such as download, pictures videos and templates.... is there a way to change the link to these shortcuts to point to a different location? |
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| 01:36.23 | neuro_dam | how do I start a kde session using startx? |
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| 01:36.30 | neuro_dam | startx `which startkde` -- :0 & |
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| 01:36.37 | neuro_dam | is that correct? |
| 01:37.32 | blauzahl | xinit startkde --/usr/bin/X :1 -a <---what i use to start my kde4 |
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| 01:38.20 | neuro_dam | blauzahl, i get the :0 active display running already even when I run your command? |
| 01:38.31 | neuro_dam | which is weird cause you're specifying that you want it to run on :2 |
| 01:40.05 | Jucato | neuro_dam: isn't there a guide in techbase.kde.org for that? |
| 01:40.08 | blauzahl | *shrug* |
| 01:40.21 | blauzahl | it works |
| 01:40.50 | blauzahl | Jucato: not sure if this in particluar is in |
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| 01:43.21 | hellhound | does anyone know how to change the locations for some of the preloaded links on the "Quick Access Panel" of the "Save and Open dialog windows"? |
| 01:45.10 | Jucato | hellhound: can't you right-click on them and change them? |
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| 01:45.27 | Jucato | I believe they are pointing to existing folders in your $HOME as setup by your distro |
| 01:46.01 | hellhound | jucato it only edits them for that one application. |
| 01:46.19 | Jucato | isn't there a checkbox that says something like "Show in all apps"? |
| 01:46.50 | Jucato | or "only show when using this application" |
| 01:46.55 | Jucato | (presuming KDE 3) |
| 01:47.18 | hellhound | Jucato: yes but even when unchecked it does not keep the setting on another application |
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| 01:48.36 | Jucato | hm... works here for me |
| 01:49.27 | hellhound | Jucato: heheh i guess it helps if i close the app and then restart it for those changes to take effect :) ty |
| 01:49.41 | Jucato | :P |
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| 01:52.13 | kakalto | =( amd64 gentoo, kde 3.5.9, I run programs with kdesu and they tend to hang |
| 01:52.56 | i_is_cat | thats cuz gentoo stinks |
| 01:52.58 | i_is_cat | :P |
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| 01:54.15 | kakalto | i_is_cat: wow, that's the most insightful comment I've seen about this issue |
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| 01:56.55 | Jucato | kakalto: that would only be 2nd to "that's cuz kde stinks" :) |
| 01:57.06 | kakalto | get behind me, troll! |
| 01:57.07 | Jucato | (oh, and that should be "that's", not "thats") |
| 01:57.13 | kakalto | xP |
| 01:57.18 | Jucato | kakalto: have you tried asking in #gentoo-kde ? |
| 01:57.37 | Jucato | it might be an issue specific to gentoo. I haven't seen anyone complain about it yet if it's a generic one |
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| 01:58.13 | workaphobia | where does ksysguard get its information from? How can I make it see the sensors exported by /sys and interpretted using lm_sensors? |
| 01:58.28 | kakalto | mm, although I'm not certain if it only affects amd64, or if it's just *my* install... just asked in gentoo-kde, asked in gentoo-amd64 before |
| 02:00.20 | kakalto | workaphobia: ksysguard supports lm_sensors, not sure exactly what you mean? |
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| 02:01.12 | Goofankle | Why won't Konqueror start? It was working earlier, but now when I try to run it, nothing happens. When I try to run it in the terminal, it just sits there and doesn't say or do anything. |
| 02:01.41 | Goofankle | I'm using KDE 3.5, and opensuse 10.3, by the way |
| 02:01.42 | workaphobia | kakalto: I'm not seeing the sensors from lm_sensors in ksysguard |
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| 02:02.05 | workaphobia | God damn it. I've got a core that's actually at 90 C. Wtf. |
| 02:02.07 | pedepy | Goofankle: did you do any upgrade or anything in the mean time? |
| 02:02.23 | pedepy | check that you don't alraedy have an instance of konqueror running in memory also maybe ? |
| 02:02.26 | pedepy | i dunno .. just my two cents |
| 02:02.29 | pedepy | it's a start |
| 02:02.44 | kakalto | workaphobia: what distro? I had to change the 3.5.9 sources slightly to fix the problem on my computer. |
| 02:02.50 | workaphobia | kakalto: gentoo |
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| 02:03.23 | kakalto | workaphobia: hah, that's interesting. I think the devs decided that it didn't affect enough people or something, so nothing has been done about it. I'll see if I can find out what I changed |
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| 02:03.52 | workaphobia | is it this?: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223867 |
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| 02:04.26 | Goofankle | pedepy: the only thing I've done is reinstall codeblocks, and installed kiba-dock |
| 02:04.32 | workaphobia | How the hell can I have a core fluctuate by 40 C?! This is freaking me out |
| 02:05.08 | kakalto | workaphobia: check this out: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158487 |
| 02:05.18 | kakalto | workaphobia: and beware, sometimes lm_sensors just gives completely the wrong figures |
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| 02:06.16 | kakalto | workaphobia: I was going to make a patch, but I need to have a look around and find out how patches work and whatnot, maybe I could try it now. |
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| 02:08.19 | workaphobia | kakalto: posted months ago and still marked unconfirmed.. Sigh. The gentoo bug I linked is at least very recent so it sitll has a chance. |
| 02:08.36 | workaphobia | kakalto: I suppose I could downgrade ksysguard to .8 |
| 02:08.49 | kakalto | workaphobia: that's what most people do, I think. |
| 02:09.04 | workaphobia | kakalto: as far as lm_sensors being crazily inaccurate, what can you tell me about the liklihood that I'm actually having a meltdown? |
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| 02:09.17 | kakalto | workaphobia: If I try to make a patch for it now, could you try it and see if it works? then I could add it on the gentoo bugzilla? |
| 02:09.42 | workaphobia | kakalto: Sure, but I don't know how to apply patches, at least not within the context of portage. Just give me instructions and I'll do it |
| 02:09.50 | kakalto | workaphobia: very low likelihood. Easiest way to check is when you first turn on your computer, Go into the BIOS and check the temperatures in there |
| 02:09.52 | workaphobia | (Heh, I guess that's not wise security policy, but it's the OSS way) |
| 02:10.08 | kakalto | workaphobia: yeah, it'll be pretty simple |
| 02:10.23 | workaphobia | kakalto: Well I idle at between 45 and 55, which is fine. And lm_sensors agrees with that. I can shoot up as high as 92 if I leave my system fans set to low (I can control them manually) |
| 02:10.28 | workaphobia | and maybe 85 if I have them on high |
| 02:10.49 | kakalto | workaphobia: that is insane fluctuation; I wouldn't expect temperatures like that unless your CPU heatsink is badly installed |
| 02:10.51 | workaphobia | the cpu thermal sensor provided by the MB is lower, but goes as high as say 65. Core 0 is the hottest, I presume because it does more work |
| 02:11.24 | workaphobia | kakalto: Well I scartched the surface a little bit when I used a plastic knife to remove preapplied compound (to replace it with AS5), but I don't think that would cause this |
| 02:11.37 | workaphobia | surface of the heatsink that is |
| 02:11.38 | kakalto | workaphobia: not too much thermal paste, not too small amount either? |
| 02:11.56 | workaphobia | kakalto: I used a very small amount, the AS5 came with a tiny brush and I applied a thin layer in a line as per the instructions |
| 02:12.08 | workaphobia | kakalto: But I think if I mis-applied it it wouldn't cause such a dynamic range in temperatures, just a higher baseline |
| 02:12.16 | kakalto | workaphobia: mm, I would think the same. |
| 02:12.49 | workaphobia | kakalto: I'm very stably idling at 35-45 between the four cores, it just amazes me that it could jump so much under load. |
| 02:13.05 | workaphobia | Heh, the MB's cpu sensor actually registers lower than the MB's main board sensor, by a degree or two. |
| 02:13.36 | workaphobia | And I know that there's a 15 degree difference in a thermal parameter built into the cpu's sensor, that older models had it set to 85 whereas on my model it's 100 |
| 02:13.36 | kakalto | workaphobia: I guess if you take a look around online and see if you can find other people's observations with the same hardware? |
| 02:13.49 | workaphobia | but that is accounted for as I can see in lm_sensor's output, and it wouldn't account for the differential anyway, just an offset |
| 02:13.59 | kakalto | yeah. |
| 02:14.05 | workaphobia | yeah, it's a core 2 quad Q6600, so... |
| 02:14.26 | workaphobia | I mean I didn't expect 40 idling, but I was hoping for under 65 loaded. |
| 02:14.29 | kakalto | workaphobia: that'll give you something to do while I research about how patches work :-) |
| 02:14.43 | workaphobia | heh |
| 02:15.05 | workaphobia | the change you're patching, is it a dirty hack or fixing a typo of some sort? |
| 02:15.30 | workaphobia | that is, would the upstream consider integrating it or would they pass on it |
| 02:16.35 | kakalto | workaphobia: basically a typo. from what I understand, they changed the name of something from "HAVE_SENSORS_SENSORS_H" to "HAVE_LMSENSORS", but they didn't change every instance |
| 02:16.52 | workaphobia | Mm |
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| 02:28.11 | kakalto | workaphobia: I think when i fixed it, I edited a file while it was compiling, because I couldn't find the particular file I was looking for, pre-compile; so I'm having a little trouble finding it now |
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| 02:31.17 | workaphobia | kakalto: Heh. Well I have time. I'll be around tonight for another hour and a half maybe. |
| 02:31.40 | kakalto | workaphobia: :-) I want to get it done so I can go out |
| 02:31.41 | workaphobia | otherwise I guess I'll stop back here tomorrow night... |
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| 02:44.54 | Routers | i not understand |
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| 02:48.50 | aleite | Hi everybody |
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| 02:49.08 | workaphobia | waves |
| 02:49.17 | aleite | I compiled kde from sources (trunk) but I don't know how to make kdm my default login manager... :( |
| 02:49.35 | aleite | Do you know how to do that? |
| 02:50.13 | workaphobia | I think it's distro dependent, but I'm not sure. I know where it is in gentoo. But I do it on a per user basis because I boot up in console mode, so I just set my ,xinitrc to startkde |
| 02:50.56 | aleite | Ok... I use opensuse |
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| 02:51.10 | aleite | Thanks anyway... :D |
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| 02:54.53 | kakalto | workaphobia: yeah, the problem is... the config.h.in file is generated wrong, but I can't figure out how config.h.in is generated |
| 02:55.29 | workaphobia | kakalto: well maybe you can just post what you know to the bug I linked and let the maintainer worry about the mundane stuff |
| 02:55.55 | workaphobia | kakalto: I'm not too worried about the bug now that I at least know what causes it. I'm now more worried about my core entering the fourth state of matter. |
| 02:55.55 | kakalto | workaphobia: I just suspect that if I don't do something, nothing will actually get done |
| 02:56.03 | kakalto | =P |
| 02:56.25 | workaphobia | I say post what you know, monitor the bug and see if anything happens within the next couple of days, if not, continue |
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| 03:12.15 | kakalto | workaphobia: well, I replied. We'll see how it pans out. |
| 03:14.27 | workaphobia | kakalto: Cool. Thanks for taking an interest |
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| 03:14.50 | kakalto | workaphobia: I've been meaning to get around to it for well over a month |
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| 03:45.28 | waltercool | hi there! How can i nstall kde 4.1 from trunk? |
| 03:45.53 | waltercool | nothing in official kde website... |
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| 03:46.45 | TheBlunderbuss | Is there a way to make some kind of clickable link in a kdialog window? |
| 03:46.50 | TheBlunderbuss | kde 3.5.9 |
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| 03:55.06 | jsilverman2 | hello |
| 03:55.16 | drantin | 'lo jsilverman2 |
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| 03:56.22 | jsilverman2 | trigi links from konqueror shell firefox which complains that it has no protocol handler for strigi: |
| 03:56.27 | jsilverman2 | strigi* |
| 03:56.44 | jsilverman2 | trigi links from konqueror shell firefox which complains that it has no protocol handler for strigi: |
| 03:56.46 | jsilverman2 | woops |
| 03:56.52 | jsilverman2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:13.10 | flaccid | i wonder if there can be a better strategy for opening external files associated with programs already open. eg. adding to amarok playlist - some logic to prevent extra entries appearing in the plasma panel as they load and find out they are already loaded. or is this not a good idea? |
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| 04:18.32 | dbglt | flaccid: seems a common problem here |
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| 04:19.22 | flaccid | its a problem? i thought the behaviour currently would be intended by default? |
| 04:26.26 | dbglt | flaccid: it doesn't make logical sense, it seems to be a problem. Not really a bug, more just ugly! |
| 04:27.20 | flaccid | yep aesthetic element for sure |
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| 04:37.40 | funcrush | kwin doesn't start at boot after I updated. How can I fix? |
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| 06:03.43 | Chunky_Ice | Hmm |
| 06:03.53 | Chunky_Ice | So i come in here as one of my last hopes for getting my first linux install to work |
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| 06:04.06 | Chunky_Ice | I feel like such a leech just asking for help without saying Hi, so here I go, Hi =0 |
| 06:04.08 | Chunky_Ice | Anyways |
| 06:04.20 | Chunky_Ice | I installed Kubuntu with the latest KDE 4 "Remix" or whatever they call it |
| 06:04.57 | Chunky_Ice | I'm running a Nvidia 9600 GT, and the OS was running fine until I enabled a bunch of things and then it turned gray, so I went into the terminal and reinstalled the nvidia drivers and it kinda fixed it |
| 06:05.10 | Chunky_Ice | Except now I have no task bar, and I tried running "kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma " but it didn't bring it back |
| 06:05.23 | Chunky_Ice | I managed to get around by adding widgits to that little |
| 06:05.27 | Chunky_Ice | So is there anyone here who can actually help? |
| 06:05.34 | Chunky_Ice | I'd greatly appreciate it |
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| 06:06.53 | Chunky_Ice | Hmm okay I kinda fixed it by typing Kicker |
| 06:07.31 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: are you actually running kde3 or kde4? what you tell is kind of contradictory as plasma is in kde4 and kicker is in kde3 :D |
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| 06:08.13 | Chunky_Ice | Hmm |
| 06:08.17 | Chunky_Ice | I'm running KDE 4 |
| 06:08.25 | Chunky_Ice | Though typing up Kicker ran kde 3 |
| 06:08.41 | Chunky_Ice | Interesting, though I definitely had KDE 4, since on my drive I saw both a KDE 4 and 3 folder |
| 06:08.56 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: if you have no panel, try right-clicking on the desktop. |
| 06:09.11 | Chunky_Ice | Yeah that works, though I don't get much out of it |
| 06:09.13 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: there might be a menu-option to add another panel. |
| 06:09.23 | Lanken | lemma: kicker works in kde4 though, right? |
| 06:09.32 | lemma | Lanken: oh yeah, it does |
| 06:09.33 | Chunky_Ice | Yeah it does, though it's not the KDE 4 default, which is what I wanted |
| 06:09.41 | Chunky_Ice | Hmm Lanken? |
| 06:09.45 | Chunky_Ice | Laksman? |
| 06:09.49 | q4a | hi all |
| 06:09.55 | Lanken | Chunky_Ice: no, I'm Lanken |
| 06:10.00 | Chunky_Ice | Ah good |
| 06:10.07 | q4a | i'm trying install kdm-kde4 - after sudo /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 start i'm getting error: |
| 06:10.08 | q4a | 128: Syntax error: ";;" inexpected (expecting "fi") |
| 06:10.13 | Chunky_Ice | My friend's name is Lankan Prince, so I thought there could be some connection |
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| 06:10.39 | xdan779 | Chunkey_Ice: if you are runnign kde4 you just need to right click on your desktop and select add panel you can then you can add your taskbar systray launcer applets etc ... by right clicking the panel |
| 06:11.05 | Chunky_Ice | Well 1, I don't have a panel |
| 06:11.11 | Chunky_Ice | And 2, I don't get the option "Add Panel" when I right click |
| 06:11.12 | lemma | q4a: did you install it using your distribution's package manager? |
| 06:11.32 | Chunky_Ice | No, I went to the Ubuntu site and downloaded Kubuntu "Remixed" since it had KDE4 |
| 06:11.33 | q4a | i use console =) |
| 06:11.38 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: the add panel option might be in recent version only. |
| 06:11.41 | Chunky_Ice | Ah for him |
| 06:11.52 | lemma | q4a: did you compile from svn? |
| 06:12.02 | Chunky_Ice | Hmm.. |
| 06:12.07 | Chunky_Ice | How do I check which version of KDE 4 I have? |
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| 06:12.27 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: open any kde program and check the about dialog (help menu) |
| 06:12.48 | q4a | lemma, no, my mistake - i use kubuntu, but now on console =) |
| 06:13.08 | Chunky_Ice | Ah good good |
| 06:13.11 | Chunky_Ice | I'm running KDE 4.0.3 |
| 06:13.17 | lemma | q4a: it sounds like a problem ubuntu has. it's actually a pretty simple one - a simple error in the script you're trying to run |
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| 06:13.29 | xdan779 | Chunkey_Ice: I am sorry as I do not know when the add panel option was added |
| 06:13.41 | Chunky_Ice | Well what's the latest version? |
| 06:14.35 | q4a | lemma - u ridht - at #kubuntu-kde4 i got help =) |
| 06:14.38 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: I just checked. the rm ....../plasma-appletsrc should actually fix it |
| 06:14.45 | lemma | q4a: great :) |
| 06:15.02 | Chunky_Ice | With the elipse and all? |
| 06:15.27 | Chunky_Ice | Remember, I'm a serious Linux newbie |
| 06:15.40 | Chunky_Ice | The worst kind, one who dual boots with Vista |
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| 06:16.02 | lemma | :-) |
| 06:16.23 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: well, did the rm-command give you any error? |
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| 06:17.09 | Chunky_Ice | No such file or directory |
| 06:19.22 | Chunky_Ice | Okay, I'm running a search for plasma-appletsrc |
| 06:19.51 | Chunky_Ice | Okay, I found it and I'm deleting it |
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| 06:20.09 | Chunky_Ice | One second while I log out and back in |
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| 06:22.39 | Chunky_Ice | Yeah it failed |
| 06:22.50 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: still no panel? |
| 06:22.58 | Chunky_Ice | Nothing |
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| 06:23.09 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: do you get a background wallpaper? |
| 06:23.21 | Chunky_Ice | I'm going to download and try to install the latest KDE beta |
| 06:23.22 | Chunky_Ice | Yeah I got a background wallpaper |
| 06:23.25 | Chunky_Ice | I'm also able to add widgets |
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| 06:23.48 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: well, I'm pretty much at my wits ends. you can go and try asking in #plasma |
| 06:23.50 | Chunky_Ice | So, how can I install the latest kde >.> |
| 06:24.05 | Chunky_Ice | Well I think if I install Beta 1, since it was jsut released, it should fix everything |
| 06:24.12 | Chunky_Ice | I'll check out #Plasma as well, thank you |
| 06:24.31 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: you're on kubuntu, right? |
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| 06:24.54 | Chunky_Ice | Yeah |
| 06:25.06 | Chunky_Ice | it's like sudo apt-get kde4? |
| 06:25.07 | Chunky_Ice | *shrugs* |
| 06:25.51 | Chunky_Ice | "Kubuntu packages are in preparation." |
| 06:25.53 | Chunky_Ice | That's what it says online |
| 06:25.55 | Chunky_Ice | So *cough* that sucks |
| 06:25.56 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: I just searched. I read something about beta1 being packaged right now |
| 06:26.03 | Chunky_Ice | Yeah |
| 06:26.08 | Chunky_Ice | So what should I do until then? |
| 06:26.33 | Chunky_Ice | I'll ask in plasma as well |
| 06:26.34 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: :) you could always compile from sources but I'm not sure that's something you'd like to do if you refer to yourself as a "linux newbie" |
| 06:26.53 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: maybe try asking if the packages will hit the shelves soon in kubuntu |
| 06:27.03 | Chunky_Ice | All right |
| 06:27.05 | Chunky_Ice | Thank you ^^ |
| 06:27.09 | lemma | Chunky_Ice: you're welcome |
| 06:28.13 | empien | Chunky_Ice: join #kubuntu-kde4 and ask there too |
| 06:28.24 | Chunky_Ice | All right |
| 06:28.26 | Chunky_Ice | I appreciate it |
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| 06:48.40 | q4a | hi all, i cant see anything at system tray.. |
| 06:48.50 | q4a | can somebody help me? |
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| 06:54.19 | _lemma | q4a: please be a little more specific. |
| 06:55.07 | q4a | i use kde 4.00.80 |
| 06:55.19 | _lemma | q4a: what do you mean by "I don't see anything"? |
| 06:55.22 | q4a | just now install |
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| 06:55.41 | q4a | i run amarok and say it goto tray |
| 06:55.41 | _lemma | q4a: do you see the panel? |
| 06:55.52 | Dumble | hello world ! |
| 06:55.59 | q4a | yes, its'\ bkack |
| 06:56.07 | q4a | *black |
| 06:56.15 | _lemma | q4a: and you got the K button and the digital clock? |
| 06:56.33 | q4a | i have k-button and clocks |
| 06:56.44 | q4a | i cann add or delete it |
| 06:57.14 | q4a | i can add or delete system tray, but i cant see task on it =( |
| 06:57.15 | _lemma | q4a: try opening the dialog for adding plasmoids and check if the "system tray" is shown as added already |
| 06:57.21 | _lemma | q4a: oh... |
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| 06:57.58 | _lemma | q4a: sorry, then I don't know. |
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| 06:58.12 | q4a | _lemma, do u need print screen? |
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| 06:58.36 | _lemma | q4a: no, I think it's probably a bug in the system tray if it's there but doesn't show anything |
| 06:59.13 | vecciora | How can I change my Jabber password with Kopete? |
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| 06:59.24 | q4a | ok, its normal 4 beta =) |
| 06:59.43 | _lemma | vecciora: in 3.5.9 kopete has a "Change your password" button in the account settings |
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| 07:01.18 | _lemma | vecciora: in kde4 it's there as well |
| 07:01.55 | vecciora | I found myself think that Pidgin is not better than Kopete. |
| 07:03.01 | _lemma | vecciora: I like kopete better as well, but I also think that that's clearly a matter of taste :) |
| 07:04.02 | vecciora | I do not know how to register a service on Pidgin. |
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| 07:05.44 | sbattey | How can i configure phonon xine backend to use xshm video output... |
| 07:05.46 | q4a | _lemma, can u help me yet? i dont see some icons (insted of it standart icon with "?"). i tryed to move .kde4 folder and restart then - its not help 4 me.. |
| 07:06.55 | _lemma | q4a: there's a standard icon in there? which application does that belong to? |
| 07:08.16 | annma | sbattey: in codong? |
| 07:08.21 | annma | sbattey: in coding? |
| 07:08.29 | vecciora | Are Kopete is an KDE aplication or just a Qt based? |
| 07:08.43 | q4a | _lemma - wait, plz - i want ot do screenshot |
| 07:09.10 | SSJ_GZ | vecciora: KDE |
| 07:09.26 | _lemma | q4a: ok |
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| 07:11.44 | sbattey | annma: Just for using... |
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| 07:12.23 | annma | what app do you use for video? |
| 07:12.29 | annma | phonon is not an app |
| 07:12.46 | sbattey | annma: dragon player |
| 07:13.06 | sbattey | annma: I tried to set it in xine itself, but it had no effect. |
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| 07:13.32 | annma | if xine does not support it then phonon won't either |
| 07:14.25 | sbattey | annma: it worked in xine |
| 07:14.35 | sbattey | annma: but the kde video app didn't. |
| 07:15.39 | q4a | _lemma: http://k-net.ru/gallery/albums/userpics/12072/desktop2%7E0.png - see this: bad icons, but system tray works - my mistake =) |
| 07:16.07 | _lemma | q4a: oh. that's not the system tray. it's the K-menu :) |
| 07:16.20 | _lemma | q4a: the system tray is what you usually have on the bottom-right |
| 07:16.39 | vecciora | KDE 4 run a bit slower than KDE 3.5 on my PC. |
| 07:16.48 | annma | sbattey: is dragon based on xine? |
| 07:16.52 | q4a | _lemma - u think bad icons in system tray - on on k-menu |
| 07:17.21 | sbattey | annma: I assume its using phonon, and therfore had a xine backend. |
| 07:17.48 | q4a | http://k-net.ru/gallery/albums/userpics/12072/desktop2%7E0.png - some one know how to fix images?? |
| 07:17.58 | q4a | *icnos =) |
| 07:18.07 | q4a | icons |
| 07:18.52 | annma | sbattey: yes, I just checked, it uses phonon. But why won't it work if xine works? |
| 07:19.39 | _lemma | q4a: it might be a problem with your install |
| 07:20.11 | q4a | may be.. |
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| 07:41.53 | Feuerbach | Does anybody know current homepage of kaudiocreator? |
| 07:42.10 | Feuerbach | http://www.icefox.net/programs/?program=KAudioCreator seems to be out of date |
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| 07:42.18 | annma | is it part of kdemultimedia module? |
| 07:42.35 | annma | icefox is not really active anymore in KDE |
| 07:42.57 | Feuerbach | is "icefox" someone's nickname? |
| 07:43.40 | annma | Feuerbach: yes |
| 07:44.08 | annma | kaudiocreator is not in kdemultimedia |
| 07:44.24 | Feuerbach | annma: yep, I checked http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/ and there's nothing related |
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| 07:46.11 | annma | maybe it's gone from kde4 |
| 07:46.19 | annma | is it kde3 you are talking about? |
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| 07:47.23 | Feuerbach | annma: well, it's listed as "kde4 headliner" on http://multimedia.kde.org/ |
| 07:48.11 | annma | do you have it with kde4? |
| 07:48.48 | Feuerbach | I don't |
| 07:49.10 | annma | ah see |
| 07:50.11 | annma | it's in extragear multimedia |
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| 07:50.26 | annma | if you have an issue the best is to report it via bugzilla |
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| 07:50.31 | Phlogi_ | kile does not compile here: /tmp/PORTAGE/var-tmp/paludis/app-editors-kile-scm/work/kile/kile/src/main.cpp:121: error: no matching function for call to 'QFile::decodeName(QString)' |
| 07:51.01 | annma | check if QFile has this method |
| 07:51.13 | annma | type qt:qfile in konqueror and look Phlogi_ |
| 07:51.47 | Phlogi_ | yes it does |
| 07:52.02 | Phlogi_ | but not with QString as argument |
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| 07:53.15 | Feuerbach | annma: found it, thanks! |
| 07:54.26 | annma | Phlogi_: what ctor then? |
| 07:54.48 | annma | what method I mean |
| 07:55.17 | Phlogi_ | QString decodeName ( const QByteArray & localFileName ) |
| 07:55.18 | Phlogi_ | QString decodeName ( const char * localFileName ) |
| 07:55.19 | annma | paste the kile line please |
| 07:55.27 | annma | main.cpp line 121 |
| 07:55.58 | Phlogi_ | QString path = QFile::decodeName(args->arg(i)); |
| 07:56.54 | Phlogi | I hope they will fix it soon |
| 07:56.56 | pinotree | which version of kile is it? |
| 07:57.08 | annma | Phlogi: you can try to fix it |
| 07:57.08 | Phlogi | svn trunk I think |
| 07:57.13 | annma | you think? |
| 07:57.15 | Phlogi | annma: I have not time sorry |
| 07:57.19 | annma | LOL |
| 07:57.38 | annma | it would just be a tiny change really to make it build |
| 07:57.43 | Phlogi | revision 815542 |
| 07:57.50 | Phlogi | I know :p |
| 07:57.51 | annma | svn info lease |
| 07:57.55 | annma | svn info please |
| 07:58.01 | annma | fort he location in trunk |
| 07:58.14 | Phlogi | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/office |
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| 07:58.36 | pinotree | you know that's far from being reay for use, right? |
| 07:58.50 | Phlogi | pinotree: yes :) |
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| 07:59.04 | pinotree | then don't compile it, if you are not a developer |
| 07:59.21 | Phlogi | ok no problem |
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| 08:04.59 | Phlogi | is there smb4k for kde4? |
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| 08:06.40 | TychoQuad | excuse me, can someone clarify something for me in regards to plasma widgets? |
| 08:07.20 | GraveDigger | TychoQuad: maybe... |
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| 08:07.55 | TychoQuad | http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Graphics/4.1_times_more_Prettyness there's a screenshot here where the desktop icons are encased in a box, is this a widget? |
| 08:08.06 | GraveDigger | yes |
| 08:08.31 | TychoQuad | is it possible to install this widget engine without kde4? |
| 08:08.38 | GraveDigger | no |
| 08:08.52 | GraveDigger | its called plasma and is an essential part of kde4 |
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| 08:09.09 | TychoQuad | damn |
| 08:09.14 | TychoQuad | thanks for your help |
| 08:09.21 | GraveDigger | you're welcome |
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| 08:40.32 | jayjay | Hi! How can I turn off desktop icon borders as shown in this pic http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5883/kde404iconborderskr3.png |
| 08:41.05 | jayjay | I don't like how each icon has a different border size |
| 08:41.15 | jayjay | for KDE4.0.4 |
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| 08:42.58 | illogical | jayjay: i don't believe that there's a way to turn that off. |
| 08:43.08 | illogical | checks the tubes real quick. |
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| 08:43.43 | jayjay | illogical: hmm |
| 08:45.08 | annma | you can use a different theme |
| 08:45.13 | annma | which theme do you sue? |
| 08:45.15 | annma | use |
| 08:45.31 | jayjay | checking |
| 08:45.46 | jayjay | annma: oxygenn right now |
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| 08:46.14 | annma | jayjay: I mean plasma theme |
| 08:46.15 | jayjay | annma: changing to Plastik didn't change the borders (or turn them off) |
| 08:46.27 | annma | not kwin theme, this is plasma |
| 08:47.53 | jayjay | annma: where is plasma theme changed? |
| 08:48.38 | annma | hmmm kde 4.0.4, I don't know |
| 08:48.51 | annma | for 4.1beta it's in Desktop config |
| 08:48.58 | jayjay | annma: I'd be okay if the border encompassed both icons.. as long as it looks clean |
| 08:49.32 | annma | in 4.1 you can use folderviewer |
| 08:50.08 | jayjay | ahh nice.. yeah 4.1 sounds nice so far |
| 08:50.50 | jayjay | also I don't like how the desktop icons default to tiny size |
| 08:51.10 | jayjay | so I drag them to a bigger size but they can get pixelated in doing so |
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| 08:52.37 | jayjay | I saw the ogg video of the 4.1 beta |
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| 08:53.16 | illogical | that was one sweet screencast. |
| 08:53.34 | Nick__ | hey everyone |
| 08:53.38 | jayjay | hi |
| 08:53.40 | Nick__ | I'm new to IRC |
| 08:53.49 | illogical | welcome. |
| 08:53.53 | jayjay | IRC is new to you too :) |
| 08:53.57 | Nick__ | lol |
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| 08:54.59 | Nick__ | i'm not quite sure how to get into chats |
| 08:54.59 | Nick__ | the only one in my server list is the freenode one |
| 08:54.59 | Nick__ | do i need something for that? |
| 08:55.14 | illogical | Nick__: which client? |
| 08:55.28 | Nick__ | which program? |
| 08:55.32 | Nick__ | konversation |
| 08:55.38 | jayjay | yes |
| 08:55.45 | Nick__ | which, for some reason i thought only ran on KDE |
| 08:55.56 | Nick__ | but it works fine with gnome |
| 08:56.00 | jayjay | there are many IRC networks |
| 08:56.04 | Nick__ | also fairly new to linux... |
| 08:56.06 | Nick__ | yeah |
| 08:56.11 | illogical | nah. runs anywhere as long as kdelibs is installed |
| 08:56.25 | jayjay | slaps peer |
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| 08:56.37 | illogical | someone made him press the magic button? |
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| 08:56.50 | jayjay | alt-f4 brings up the cheat screen |
| 08:56.54 | illogical | or maybe freenode hates noobs |
| 08:56.57 | Nick__ | is this the same channel i was in before? |
| 08:56.59 | jayjay | yes |
| 08:57.03 | illogical | NO |
| 08:57.07 | Nick__ | lol |
| 08:57.08 | jayjay | oh, yeah, no |
| 08:57.12 | illogical | :-D |
| 08:57.32 | Nick__ | the little tab on my ethernet cable snapped off, so i'll be doing that a lot i suppoed |
| 08:57.34 | Nick__ | suppose |
| 08:57.46 | jayjay | I can fix that from here |
| 08:57.48 | jayjay | one second |
| 08:58.06 | jayjay | opens interdimensional gate paradox |
| 08:58.13 | Nick__ | is this going to burn? |
| 08:58.22 | jayjay | only if you move.. stay still |
| 08:58.29 | Nick__ | gotcha |
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| 08:59.03 | jayjay | I fixed it but you can't tell right now.. |
| 08:59.08 | Nick__ | lol |
| 08:59.13 | Nick__ | i'll check later |
| 08:59.27 | jayjay | thanks |
| 08:59.46 | Nick__ | can konversation do multiple servers at once? |
| 09:00.18 | illogical | yar |
| 09:00.25 | illogical | not cleanly though. |
| 09:00.28 | Nick__ | hmmm |
| 09:01.18 | illogical | it doesn't order the channels by server, so they are listed in the order you join |
| 09:01.36 | Nick__ | k |
| 09:01.51 | illogical | A nice workaround is the treeview which gets activated if you configure the tabs to show on the right. |
| 09:02.25 | Nick__ | the right or the left? |
| 09:02.32 | Nick__ | cause i only have the left option |
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| 09:02.51 | illogical | yes. |
| 09:03.05 | illogical | left, i.e. the other right. |
| 09:03.10 | Nick__ | lol |
| 09:03.12 | Nick__ | k |
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| 09:03.18 | Nick__ | that works much better |
| 09:03.23 | illogical | ;-) |
| 09:03.50 | Nick__ | is this a primarily linux chat? |
| 09:04.38 | jayjay | no.. it's for KDE |
| 09:04.44 | illogical | no. they'll beat you with a big stick if you talk about anything except KDE |
| 09:04.45 | Nick__ | got it |
| 09:04.48 | Nick__ | lol |
| 09:04.50 | jayjay | KDE is on BSD and Linux.. soon Windows |
| 09:04.55 | Nick__ | really? |
| 09:05.03 | Nick__ | that was for the windows part |
| 09:05.06 | jayjay | yes and stop calling me shirley |
| 09:05.09 | illogical | well. kde programs will be on windows. |
| 09:05.13 | illogical | not the desktop. |
| 09:05.33 | illogical | NO PLASMA FOR YOU MS! |
| 09:05.49 | illogical | sorry. I intentionally type in all caps by accident. |
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| 09:08.43 | ObsidianX | hey folks, what are the files that KDM reads on login? |
| 09:08.53 | ObsidianX | for some reason my screen keeps on getting resized to 640x480 on login |
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| 09:10.46 | NickM | anybody here? |
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| 09:11.16 | ObsidianX | aparently not |
| 09:11.56 | NickM | lol |
| 09:12.12 | Evillinux | Hi all |
| 09:12.15 | NickM | what does this mean? [Notice] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password> |
| 09:12.30 | Evillinux | my name is Elinuax |
| 09:12.35 | pinotree | NickM: â #freenode |
| 09:12.36 | Evillinux | Sorry |
| 09:12.40 | Evillinux | EVILLINUX |
| 09:12.49 | Evillinux | My ides |
| 09:13.17 | Evillinux | how can Life free |
| 09:13.28 | Evillinux | my ansaers |
| 09:13.30 | pinotree | Evillinux: go spam elsewhere |
| 09:13.32 | Evillinux | U can |
| 09:13.33 | NickM | lol |
| 09:13.37 | Evillinux | that |
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| 09:13.44 | ObsidianX | hehe |
| 09:13.46 | ObsidianX | oh noes |
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| 09:14.01 | ObsidianX | hehe |
| 09:14.05 | NickM | lol |
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| 09:14.14 | ObsidianX | anybody know what would cause my X to resize to 640x480 on login? |
| 09:14.25 | ObsidianX | i can't find any config file or the likes regarding it in my home folder |
| 09:14.30 | ObsidianX | but its only resident to my username |
| 09:14.35 | annma | is it a new kde install? |
| 09:14.42 | ObsidianX | nope |
| 09:14.45 | annma | you mean other users are OK? |
| 09:14.48 | ObsidianX | yeah |
| 09:15.01 | annma | it just happened now for this user? |
| 09:15.01 | ObsidianX | so its not a system wide problem at least |
| 09:15.14 | ObsidianX | well its been happening for a little whilte |
| 09:15.16 | ObsidianX | while* |
| 09:15.23 | ObsidianX | this is ~9 month old install |
| 09:15.40 | ObsidianX | and a little while being a few weeks |
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| 09:16.28 | annma | how do you log in? |
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| 09:17.22 | ObsidianX | KDM |
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| 09:18.08 | ObsidianX | kdm loads at the proper 1280x800 resolution |
| 09:18.18 | ObsidianX | and it stays that way if i login under another user |
| 09:18.25 | illogical | krandrtray ? |
| 09:18.29 | ObsidianX | only when i login to my username does it switch down |
| 09:18.33 | ObsidianX | illogical: not using it |
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| 09:19.09 | illogical | ObsidianX: then start :-) |
| 09:19.21 | illogical | use it to set your res back to normal. |
| 09:19.30 | ObsidianX | well i just use the console xrandr command |
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| 09:19.33 | jayjay | illogical: thanks for your help ttyl |
| 09:19.52 | ObsidianX | krandrtray is nice, but i dont need it |
| 09:20.33 | illogical | you can use krandrtray to set the resolution and have kde keep it at that resolution when you log in |
| 09:20.45 | illogical | that's why i suggested using it. |
| 09:21.00 | ObsidianX | hrm, lemme try |
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| 09:22.59 | ObsidianX | nope, didn't work |
| 09:24.54 | ObsidianX | found it :\ |
| 09:25.01 | ObsidianX | ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc |
| 09:25.25 | ObsidianX | for some reason that one had that as my default resolution |
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| 09:49.39 | Zarin | Does anyone else get this error when compiling from SVN trunk? KDE/kdebase/runtime/phonon/platform_kde/kdepluginfactory.h:35: Error: Undefined interface |
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| 09:51.31 | pinotree | Zarin: did you compile phonon from branches/phonon/4.2? |
| 09:52.05 | Zarin | I'm going from /trunk/ |
| 09:52.42 | Jucato | pinotree: I'm confused where to get phonon for KDE 4.1 from. branches/4.2 or trunk/kdesupport? |
| 09:52.59 | pinotree | i told you |
| 09:53.07 | Jucato | hm. ok.. |
| 09:53.12 | pinotree | Zarin: no, you need phonon from that location |
| 09:53.22 | Jucato | so what's in trunk/kdesupport/phonon? |
| 09:53.26 | Zarin | Ah, I see it |
| 09:53.35 | Zarin | Thanks |
| 09:54.09 | Zarin | So the minimum requirements from kdesupport is automoc, akonadi, strigi and phonon? |
| 09:54.46 | Jucato | not phonon. as pinotree mentioned, you need to get it from branches, not trunk |
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| 10:01.38 | Phlogi | do the apple dashboards widgets already work in plasma? |
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| 10:09.18 | Zarin | pinotree, is there a low-traffic mailing list or some other SVN information page that lists all the recent "special" cases for building a full KDE system from SVN? |
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| 10:21.49 | q4a | hi all |
| 10:21.55 | q4a | i just now updated kde4.1 beta |
| 10:22.04 | q4a | now if i start kwirless tools pro - it doto tray, but i cant see it there( |
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| 10:30.30 | dbglt | where is my plasma configuration/applet setup information stored? |
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| 11:19.15 | dbglt | can the plasma panel be made transparent? |
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| 11:21.05 | annma | it's almost transparent here |
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| 11:21.13 | annma | dbglt: kde version? |
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| 11:21.24 | pinotree | i think you need a theme with transparent panel |
| 11:21.41 | dbglt | annma: I got the 4.1 beta |
| 11:21.42 | annma | yes like Glassified and also you need composite on |
| 11:21.49 | dbglt | annma: ooo |
| 11:21.53 | annma | OK get Glassified and put composite on |
| 11:21.58 | dbglt | annma: no support outside of themes though? |
| 11:22.03 | annma | that's the closer of transparent you get |
| 11:22.06 | annma | not yet |
| 11:22.24 | dbglt | aww my toggle compositing extension doesn't work in 4.1 |
| 11:22.24 | annma | how did kicker do it? |
| 11:22.34 | dbglt | annma: wasn't true transparency |
| 11:22.40 | dbglt | just redrew the background :D |
| 11:23.03 | annma | it's a svg |
| 11:23.19 | annma | well I am not involved in panel chemistry |
| 11:23.42 | annma | right now I have a CPU issue to solve... |
| 11:23.48 | dbglt | annma: oh? What's up |
| 11:24.19 | dbglt | the beta seems one hundred million times more stable and nice |
| 11:24.26 | dbglt | I've been using 4.0.4 for the last few weeks :D |
| 11:24.51 | dbglt | The Install New Widgets -> Download from the Internet option |
| 11:24.54 | dbglt | is that meant to work? |
| 11:25.13 | dbglt | (add widgets > Install new widgets (bottom left buttom) -> download from the internet option) |
| 11:25.41 | annma | no |
| 11:25.49 | annma | it's crashing IIRC |
| 11:26.01 | annma | when you add the Apple widget it'll crash |
| 11:26.15 | dbglt | annma: apple widget? |
| 11:26.16 | dbglt | what's that? |
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| 11:26.23 | dbglt | apple widget support? |
| 11:26.33 | annma | yes |
| 11:27.17 | annma | it's the same Install New Widgets dialog |
| 11:27.24 | dbglt | annma: ahhh ok |
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| 11:33.18 | MaartenB_ | I installed strigi, but strigi:/ KIO does not work in KDE 4, how do I get it to work? |
| 11:34.14 | annma | #strigi |
| 11:34.45 | MaartenB_ | annma, nobody answers there (I waited for 16 hours :)) |
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| 11:35.18 | annma | isn't there a strigi mailing list then? |
| 11:35.39 | annma | I am not sure if anybody outside strigi has an idea if it works or not |
| 11:35.44 | MaartenB_ | annma, and I think strigi works okay, it is konqueror that gives the error message |
| 11:35.54 | annma | what konqueror? |
| 11:36.08 | annma | where is strigi kio code? |
| 11:36.19 | MaartenB_ | I don't know how kio works |
| 11:36.31 | MaartenB_ | and it says 'Protocol not supported strigi' |
| 11:36.42 | MaartenB_ | KDE 4.0.4 |
| 11:36.42 | annma | so there's no strigi kio maybe |
| 11:36.57 | dbglt | glassified doesn't give me a transparent panel! |
| 11:36.58 | dbglt | lies :P |
| 11:37.12 | annma | ask in strigi mailing list and tell them why you need it MaartenB_ |
| 11:37.26 | annma | dbglt: I said with composite and I said the closer to transparent |
| 11:37.38 | MaartenB_ | annma, http://strigi.sourceforge.net/?q=strigi_kioslave it should work |
| 11:38.01 | shahn | i compiled kde 4.1 from svn and i have problems with icons in konqueror: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wrongiconssb3.png |
| 11:38.12 | annma | MaartenB_: is that in kde svn? |
| 11:38.12 | dbglt | annma: composite is on |
| 11:38.12 | shahn | it looks similar in dolphin |
| 11:38.16 | dbglt | annma: the panel is still black :P |
| 11:38.37 | annma | dbglt: wait that I take mine with ksnapshot and you'll see |
| 11:38.56 | MaartenB_ | annma, no idea, I don't use SVN, just Fedora 9 |
| 11:40.06 | annma | MaartenB_: strigi kio is in sf, ask fedora if they include it |
| 11:40.22 | shahn | the action icons are replaced by linspire icons |
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| 11:40.46 | annma | shahn: wait a bit |
| 11:40.57 | shahn | ok |
| 11:42.22 | MaartenB_ | annma, Fedora includes strigi |
| 11:42.36 | MaartenB_ | annma, I ask here because it says on KDE.org that "The Strigi project is the core of the index and search technology for KD" |
| 11:42.39 | MaartenB_ | KDE |
| 11:42.59 | annma | http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop2ad6.png |
| 11:43.05 | annma | MaartenB_: PLEASE |
| 11:43.20 | annma | strigi K I O |
| 11:43.27 | annma | not strigi itself!!!! |
| 11:43.38 | annma | dbglt: the pic is for you ^^ |
| 11:44.08 | annma | shahn: in Help menu, about KDE in your konq, what doe sit say? |
| 11:44.49 | dbglt | annma: ah, mine does not do that! |
| 11:44.51 | dbglt | stays black |
| 11:44.57 | dbglt | and also... how do I change panel height? |
| 11:45.02 | dbglt | I can only figure out how to change width! |
| 11:45.27 | annma | ah aha |
| 11:45.30 | shahn | annma: Version 4.00.81 (KDE 4.0.81 >= 20080527) |
| 11:45.43 | annma | click the cashew thingie on the right dbglt |
| 11:45.55 | annma | then another bar appears on top of your panel |
| 11:46.18 | annma | drag the top up to change height, you should see 3 = |
| 11:46.24 | dbglt | annma: hrmm, I have no cashew :\ |
| 11:46.31 | annma | shahn: then only the icons are wrong? |
| 11:46.56 | annma | dbglt: the thing to the right of my panel clock is the cashew |
| 11:47.17 | dbglt | annma: odd.I don't have that |
| 11:47.19 | shahn | well, it seems so, besides other bugs, of course |
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| 11:47.36 | annma | shahn: what did you say about startkde? |
| 11:48.01 | dbglt | annma: ah it was too far right on the screen to be visible |
| 11:48.05 | annma | do you log to kde4 as a new user? |
| 11:48.14 | annma | dbglt: bug! |
| 11:48.20 | annma | shahn: do you log to kde4 as a new user? |
| 11:48.30 | shahn | annma: yes |
| 11:48.30 | annma | or do you have a script to change env vars |
| 11:48.44 | annma | ok so why this kdehome thing in startkde? |
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| 11:49.10 | annma | <shahn> i set kdehome right in startkde |
| 11:49.16 | annma | explain that to me |
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| 11:49.38 | shahn | annma: kdehome=$HOME/.kdeNew |
| 11:50.13 | annma | you should set it in .bashrc |
| 11:50.15 | shahn | and i set KDEDIR and KDEHOME |
| 11:50.43 | annma | where do you set that exactly? |
| 11:50.51 | ccamacho | is KDE 4 supposed to be kind of slow? or maybe is not going well in my box? |
| 11:50.55 | annma | did you follow techbase tutorial? |
| 11:50.58 | shahn | at the start of startkde |
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| 11:51.05 | annma | shahn: EXPLAIN!!! |
| 11:51.14 | annma | what does that mean at the start of kde |
| 11:51.33 | annma | IN that script? where? and what tuto do you follow? |
| 11:51.39 | shahn | i put this at the beginning of /opt/kde4/bin/startkde: |
| 11:51.44 | annma | !!!! |
| 11:51.45 | shahn | export KDEDIR=/opt/kde4 |
| 11:51.45 | shahn | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$KDEDIR/lib |
| 11:51.45 | shahn | export PATH=$KDEDIR/bin/:$PATH |
| 11:51.45 | shahn | export KDEHOME=~/.kdeNew |
| 11:52.59 | shahn | that is kind of what is explained here: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#Solitary_KDE_4_session |
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| 11:54.05 | dbglt | ok... height adjustment is the most counter-intuitive thing ever |
| 11:54.06 | ccamacho | is it possible to speed up KDE? |
| 11:54.14 | dbglt | why the hell would you not drag the panel itself? |
| 11:54.31 | annma_ | I lost connection |
| 11:54.33 | annma_ | shahn: did you answer? |
| 11:54.39 | annma_ | dbglt: feel free to submit bug report as wish and submit improvement |
| 11:54.48 | annma_ | ccamacho: how did you install? |
| 11:55.02 | shahn | ^^ |
| 11:55.08 | dbglt | annma_: more a regression back to 3.5... I'd never have had any idea to click on that extra row that appeared to change height |
| 11:55.21 | annma_ | dbglt: back to 3.5 is past |
| 11:55.33 | shahn | once again: i put this at the beginning of /opt/kde4/bin/startkde: |
| 11:55.39 | dbglt | annma_: I guess so :) Bug typing time |
| 11:55.41 | annma_ | shahn: stop with that |
| 11:55.50 | annma_ | shahn: where di dyou read to do so? |
| 11:55.53 | dbglt | annma_: the other thing to ask, can I move the widgets on the panel? |
| 11:56.00 | annma_ | no dbglt |
| 11:56.00 | shahn | ??? |
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| 11:56.07 | shahn | stop with what? |
| 11:56.12 | dbglt | shahn: repost it, she was disconnected |
| 11:56.13 | annma_ | stop flooding |
| 11:56.20 | annma_ | no!!!!!!!! |
| 11:56.29 | annma_ | don't post your env vars, this is not the matter |
| 11:56.35 | shahn | ok |
| 11:56.40 | annma_ | I want to know why you put that in startkde |
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| 11:56.55 | annma_ | and why you don't put it in .bashrc |
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| 11:57.06 | ccamacho | annma_: debian repositories |
| 11:57.15 | annma_ | ccamacho: did you ask them then? |
| 11:57.27 | shahn | they told me to do so in kde-devel |
| 11:57.28 | mib_r7c4mlt3 | hi |
| 11:57.36 | annma_ | ccamacho: analyse what is slow and ask them precisely |
| 11:57.42 | annma_ | shahn: ??? |
| 11:57.53 | annma_ | shahn: did you follow a doc to build kde? |
| 11:58.09 | shahn | yes |
| 11:58.16 | annma_ | which one? |
| 11:58.23 | shahn | i admit, i did some things differently though |
| 11:58.42 | shahn | getting started in techbase |
| 11:58.44 | annma_ | well the techbase doc works perfectly if you follow it |
| 11:58.50 | dbglt | another thing to ask: when you right click on the digital clock, "Digital clock settings", and change the font a few times, do you lose the ability to click apply after a change or two? |
| 11:58.51 | dbglt | I have to click OK (closing the dialog) rather than apply to test it out |
| 11:58.51 | shahn | hmm... |
| 11:58.52 | annma_ | I wrote part of it |
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| 11:59.05 | shahn | ok |
| 11:59.18 | annma_ | dbglt: new bug, I'll try to make it fixed |
| 11:59.23 | shahn | so i try to do exactly what they tell me... |
| 11:59.28 | annma_ | dbglt: that one I have in a list |
| 11:59.38 | annma_ | shahn: put that stuff in .bashrc |
| 11:59.50 | annma_ | your user had no kde previously if it is a new one |
| 11:59.51 | dbglt | can anyone reproduce this? Try and change the font in the clock settings, click apply. Try change it once more. Can you click apply again? |
| 12:00.04 | annma_ | dbglt: YES |
| 12:00.04 | shahn | ok, i try that first. |
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| 12:00.21 | annma_ | dbglt: I just said I have that bug on ly list, I am a plasma devel |
| 12:00.49 | dbglt | annma_: sorry, for some odd reason, I am getting chunks of text at once |
| 12:01.00 | dbglt | annma_: I didn't mean to repeat, I think I have some latency problems |
| 12:01.20 | annma_ | OK |
| 12:01.43 | dbglt | annma_: thank you for your help :) I will post up my bugs now ! :) |
| 12:01.50 | annma_ | shahn: just follow the techbase doc to the letter, if you don't then you have to live with the consequences |
| 12:02.05 | annma_ | OK thanks dbglt |
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| 12:04.45 | ccamacho | annma_: I would say is a problem related to kwin (composite effects), but in general the graphical interface is (very) slow... |
| 12:05.35 | ccamacho | annma_: and I haven't asked them... since it is in experimetal is kinda difficult... |
| 12:06.11 | annma_ | did you disable compositing? |
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| 12:08.47 | ccamacho | yeah |
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| 12:09.46 | ccamacho | I did... it's faster, but I'd say that even without compositing is slow |
| 12:10.30 | annma_ | maybe it's badly installed |
| 12:10.44 | annma_ | when you have the desktop alone, what do you use as app? |
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| 12:15.41 | dbglt | I posted my one bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163060 :) |
| 12:15.48 | dbglt | I think I talk too much in my report though! |
| 12:16.28 | annma | no, very nice! |
| 12:16.50 | annma | better explain a lot, thanks for doing it |
| 12:19.21 | ccamacho | what do you mean? what apps I am running? |
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| 12:19.46 | Zarin | Hmm, speaking of height adjustment, is there any way of manually entering they height of a panel, or would that still be on a TODO somewhere |
| 12:20.27 | Zarin | Ahuh, that c) part is nice dbglt |
| 12:20.30 | annma | you can do it in the config file but we want to avoid config dialogs |
| 12:20.38 | annma | Zarin: add your comments |
| 12:20.41 | annma | and vote for it! |
| 12:20.47 | annma | the more comments the better |
| 12:22.50 | Zarin | Ack, mind block. What's that text edit-like widget that has the up and down arrows in it to increment and decrement a number called again? |
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| 12:27.26 | dbglt | one last thing! Does anyone know why my gtk-qt-engine would stop working when I upgraded from 4.0.4 to 4.1 beta? |
| 12:27.58 | Zarin | Qt4.4? |
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| 12:32.06 | annma | dbglt: the engine is packaged by your diatro so it's a distro matter |
| 12:32.17 | annma | or if you installed manually maybe reinstall it |
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| 12:41.13 | Phlogi | why does the information panel only display so few information in dolphin? That should be configurable to show everything that can be activated in normal view as well. |
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| 12:53.51 | oneforall | why is the printer setting for margins in pixels and not cm or inches etc ? |
| 12:55.03 | KRF | i built kde4 and l10n from trunk. is it normal that the interface is still partly untranslated? wrt l10n.kde.org there's nearly everything translated in german |
| 12:55.07 | vecciora | Hi, now I'm use GNOME but using Kopete to chat. How can I make Kopete form one click into double click? |
| 12:55.10 | oneforall | for kde 3.5.9 |
| 12:55.50 | oneforall | I don't get it to the tab with margins is pixels then there is a margins one under the text tab and both are just like way diffrent |
| 12:56.00 | KRF | vecciora, install kcontrol. you can change it there |
| 12:56.51 | oneforall | I just can't get the margins at all in any friggin app . the paper in landscape the left side its allways about half an inch in |
| 12:57.02 | vecciora | KRF: Iis that the only way? |
| 12:57.11 | oneforall | the top is allways to far in too |
| 12:57.39 | KRF | vecciora, or by editing some config files i think. but i dont know the important parts |
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| 12:58.35 | algyz | Hi, I don't have any sound on kdetv 0.8.9. There's sound on xawtv and tvtime. When I'm starting from terminal: http://www.paste.lt/paste/74e66ce7fd57338d9c8e0b7c225127df (first part). Distro is ubuntu 8.04 |
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| 13:14.04 | Phlogi | annma: ok :) |
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| 13:14.37 | Phlogi | anyone knows if I can set the icon sizes and if there is text under them globally for all my kde app's toolbars? |
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| 13:15.49 | algyz | Phlogi: did you look into control centre, I'm pretty sure you'll find icond there |
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| 13:26.27 | Phlogi | algyz: found it yes, thanks |
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| 13:50.31 | derMani | Hi everybode, where can I post a feature requests for kde 4? In kde 3.5.9, it was possible to set a wallpaper for all virtutal desktops at once. I've got two TFTs connected to my PC in dual view mode. If I want to change my wallpaper on (for example) 4 virtual desktops, I have to do this change 8 times. 4 virtual desktops * 2 screens.... I would really appreciate an option to set a wallpaper for all screens and desktops at once |
| 13:50.31 | derMani | (like in kde 3.5.9). |
| 13:50.54 | grundleborg | derMani: please file a feature request on http://bugs.kde.org |
| 13:51.11 | ruinevil | irc is so transient |
| 13:51.16 | ruinevil | <_< |
| 13:52.10 | derMani | ok I' ll do this ;) i was just not sure where to post such requests |
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| 13:53.28 | algyz | Hi, I don't have any sound on kdetv 0.8.9. There's sound on xawtv and tvtime. When I'm starting from terminal: http://www.paste.lt/paste/74e66ce7fd57338d9c8e0b7c225127df (first part). Distro is ubuntu 8.04 |
| 13:53.45 | algyz | nobody cares :( |
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| 13:55.27 | grundleborg | derMani: cool. thanks :) |
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| 14:01.28 | ruinevil | hmmm |
| 14:01.32 | ruinevil | i broke bugzilla |
| 14:02.01 | derMani | grrr :P |
| 14:02.06 | derMani | ;) |
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| 14:15.00 | Phlogi | my kmail can't send mails: http://rafb.net/p/tV3P2N30.html, what do I need to recompile and what was missing? |
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| 14:17.09 | illogical | i'm going to go ahead and say ssl. |
| 14:17.19 | illogical | but i don't really know. |
| 14:17.39 | illogical | Phlogi: i'd suggest you google for that error message |
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| 14:19.51 | Phlogi | is kio_smtp in kdelibs? or kdebase? |
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| 14:20.15 | illogical | i think kdebase |
| 14:20.45 | illogical | Phlogi: found the solution? |
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| 14:22.00 | Phlogi | kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves seems to be the package |
| 14:22.12 | Phlogi | illogical: not yet... I'll check the configure output now |
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| 14:22.20 | illogical | https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-June/msg00226.html |
| 14:22.35 | illogical | Phlogi: that might help :-) |
| 14:23.01 | Phlogi | I'm really sure that I have all the libs... dunno whats wrong |
| 14:23.09 | Phlogi | that kioslaves package does not complain |
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| 14:23.59 | illogical | Phlogi: what distro? |
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| 14:24.54 | Phlogi | gentoo |
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| 14:25.30 | illogical | check your use flags. sasl, cyrus-sasl. or something along those lines |
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| 14:27.09 | dim | hi |
| 14:27.28 | dim | it seems the win32 version of KDE 4.1 alpha still hasn't got a working fish:/ kio? |
| 14:27.48 | dim | is it known or do I need to create a bug etc? |
| 14:28.06 | Jucato | try asking in #kde-windows |
| 14:28.23 | Jucato | it could be a bug or a known limitation (it is Windows, after all) |
| 14:28.46 | dim | yep, but dolphin add network combo has fish in it |
| 14:29.20 | annma | dim: how is fish:/kio implemented on inux? what doe sit use? |
| 14:29.27 | annma | dim: how is fish:/kio implemented on inux? what does it use? |
| 14:29.33 | illogical | ssh |
| 14:30.02 | dim | OpenSSH lib would have been my guess |
| 14:30.06 | Phlogi | fix: echo "kde-base/kdepimlibs sasl">>/etc/paludis/use.conf |
| 14:30.19 | Phlogi | illogical: exactly, thanks |
| 14:30.38 | illogical | Phlogi: ;-) and thanks you for reporting back w/ the fix in the chan. |
| 14:30.58 | Phlogi | illogical: not sure if I need to recompile anything else, we'll see :) |
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| 14:35.15 | Phlogi | how do I view nepomuk tagged files? |
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| 14:39.35 | oneforall | errr printing still sucks :( |
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| 14:40.40 | oneforall | no matter what app it just refuses to let me change the margins and it default loves to chop off about half an inch of the bottom or left for landscape |
| 14:41.25 | oneforall | and some images same friggin size it is about and inch and a hlf of the left side /top foir landscape |
| 14:44.02 | oneforall | any iudea what file it is for the hplip psc2175 printer that makes the default margins > |
| 14:44.06 | oneforall | ? |
| 14:47.02 | Phlogi | anyone knows how to get serviceMenus working in dolphin/konqueror= |
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| 14:47.58 | Phlogi | I don't know where to put the .desktopfile? |
| 14:48.06 | oneforall | landscape in the text tab Top .635 Bottom same left 1.270 right 0.318 cm see the left is way to much and chopping off the print . Even if I put it to .318 its still at the 1.270 |
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| 14:48.56 | oneforall | when it print out that is . and the top Bottom is not hold true to what it saya ther . the top is allso cutting ot a half inch or so |
| 14:50.30 | Phlogi | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
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| 15:03.48 | Phlogi | grr service menus don't work here |
| 15:04.21 | Phlogi | the .desktop file is in /home/helgc/.kde/share/services/ServiceMenus |
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| 15:15.18 | Phlogi | this is the .desktop file: http://rafb.net/p/pXvMyY79.html |
| 15:16.04 | sandsmark | did you re-run kbiuldsycoca? |
| 15:16.09 | sandsmark | *kbuildsycoca |
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| 15:17.11 | Phlogi | sannope :D |
| 15:18.01 | Phlogi | sandsmark: does not help :S |
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| 15:18.11 | sandsmark | Phlogi: then I don't know |
| 15:18.16 | sandsmark | what does kbuildsycoca say, though? |
| 15:18.50 | pinotree | Phlogi: did you run kbuildsycoca4? (and, can you avoid doing cross-channel question, please?) |
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| 15:19.42 | Phlogi | pinotree: yes I just did (ok) |
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| 15:22.43 | Phlogi | wrong folder |
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| 15:33.26 | Shaman` | http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=5350 |
| 15:34.43 | annma | no politics please |
| 15:35.57 | Phlogi | can send emails again :) |
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| 15:37.01 | Phlogi | kde4 really becomes usable... but plasma really needs some more bugfixing |
| 15:37.12 | Jejem | hehe |
| 15:37.18 | Jejem | 4.1 will do the job |
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| 15:37.34 | roguebug | hi |
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| 15:45.20 | odysseas | Hi all, I'm having trouble making the flash plugin work in konqueror. This is the output from nspluginscan: http://rafb.net/p/xrLSrQ89.html. I'm running KDE 4.0.4 on fedora 9 x64. |
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| 15:53.14 | woodefec | hi, i am searching forums, but still don't know how to add apps to Autostart in KDE4 |
| 15:53.24 | woodefec | please help, if you can |
| 15:53.38 | annma | woodefec: there's an Autostart module in SystemSettings |
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| 15:53.45 | annma | maybe only in 4.1 though |
| 15:53.53 | woodefec | annma: can't find it |
| 15:54.00 | woodefec | its 4.0.4 here |
| 15:54.03 | annma | woodefec: look in SystemSettings -> Advanced |
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| 15:54.14 | annma | I don't remember 4.0.4 |
| 15:55.26 | woodefec | there is a services manager in Advanced User Settings |
| 15:55.33 | woodefec | but no Autostart settings |
| 15:55.39 | annma | OK you don't have it |
| 15:56.02 | woodefec | OK, so how to do it manually? |
| 15:56.11 | Phlogi | how can I make my panel transluent? |
| 15:56.29 | woodefec | there is this ~/.kde4/Autostart dir |
| 15:56.39 | woodefec | but what should i add there? |
| 15:56.53 | Phlogi | woodefec: a .desktop file ;) |
| 15:57.02 | annma | so to Autostart an app in kde you can put its shortcut in ~/.kde4/Autostart |
| 15:57.06 | woodefec | Phlogi: where are they? |
| 15:57.20 | annma | woodefec: you open this dir with dolphin |
| 15:57.31 | annma | then you drag the app from K menu to the folder |
| 15:57.33 | woodefec | ok, and than what? |
| 15:57.37 | woodefec | ooooo |
| 15:57.41 | Phlogi | ah ok thats easy :) |
| 15:57.41 | woodefec | ok, ill try that |
| 15:57.54 | woodefec | Phlogi: what KDE version? |
| 15:57.55 | annma | you select: copy there |
| 15:58.00 | annma | woodefec: ^^ |
| 15:58.07 | Phlogi | can I make my panel transparent? |
| 15:58.11 | annma | and it'll autostart with KDE |
| 15:58.21 | annma | Phlogi: nearly |
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| 15:58.46 | Phlogi | annma: how? |
| 15:58.46 | annma | Phlogi: use composite and glassified |
| 15:58.57 | annma | http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop2ad6.png |
| 15:58.59 | Phlogi | annma: oh, can't use composite |
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| 15:59.13 | annma | ah no translucency for you then Phlogi |
| 15:59.18 | Phlogi | jap |
| 15:59.19 | Phlogi | :) |
| 15:59.23 | Phlogi | at least not on my notebook :) |
| 15:59.23 | woodefec | annma, Phlogi - done, relogin |
| 15:59.26 | annma | I need to go cooking |
| 15:59.27 | woodefec | brb,thx |
| 15:59.36 | Phlogi | annma: can you cook for me too? |
| 15:59.56 | annma | vegetable soup, I can make plenty, yes! |
| 16:00.21 | Phlogi | annma: lol , I need some meat sorry :D |
| 16:00.22 | fedora_ | #craiova |
| 16:00.38 | annma | you'll get meet after the soup |
| 16:00.41 | annma | ;) |
| 16:00.43 | annma | meat |
| 16:00.45 | annma | bye! |
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| 16:01.19 | woodefec | its done and working, Compiz Fusion runs on start, thank you |
| 16:01.24 | Phlogi | hihi bye |
| 16:01.35 | woodefec | btw: when will kde 4.1 be ready? |
| 16:01.44 | Phlogi | look on the release schedule |
| 16:01.47 | Phlogi | woodefec: |
| 16:02.28 | Phlogi | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule <- woodefec |
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| 16:06.26 | sgraham | ok there is a splash screen between the kdm and the loged in user..i think the resolution on it is waaay to high. I can see the top of that display box in the lower right and corner of my screen, then it just takes me right back to the kdm login screen. |
| 16:06.34 | sgraham | anyone understand what im talking about? |
| 16:06.58 | sgraham | i have to use gdm to log into the box. another note, XDM does the exact same thing. |
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| 16:24.18 | jazka | J-23: randomly or always @ the same point? |
| 16:25.06 | djouallah | hi all, runnin kde4.1 beta 1, just one question is it possible to make the frame around icons transparent ? |
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| 16:25.55 | Kame2 | djouallah: you can use another plasma-theme, but thats all |
| 16:26.38 | djouallah | Kame2, whitch one i use aya right now;) and it is damn pretty btw ;) |
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| 16:28.27 | Kame2 | i don't have icons on my desktop, but there is a glass-theme, that should work. but that effects all plasmoids |
| 16:28.59 | Kame2 | maybe you could just replace the svg-file for icons. |
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| 16:29.59 | djouallah | Kame2, thanks will try glass-theme ;) |
| 16:30.08 | Kame2 | np |
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| 16:34.00 | djouallah | Kame2, sorry where i find glass-theme first i thought it is on plasma-extrager but it is not ;) |
| 16:34.21 | Kame2 | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Glassified?content=81388 |
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| 16:38.42 | illogical | there's a new kdeplasmoids branch in trunk |
| 16:38.48 | illogical | i memory serves |
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| 16:41.22 | djouallah | Kame2, get the zip file how to install the theme |
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| 16:42.44 | Kame2 | the easiest way: got to desktop settings and click 'new theme' ;) |
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| 16:43.07 | Kame2 | in this case you don't even need the zip-file |
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| 16:52.05 | leleobhz | how can i use a superkaramba widget into kde4? |
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| 16:58.02 | Kame2 | leleobhz: open the 'add widgets' dialog and click on 'install new widgets' -> 'from file' |
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| 16:59.57 | djouallah_ | Kame2, heheh it is a sweet theme unfortunately the frame around icons is always here ;( |
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| 17:04.27 | leleobhz | Kame2: dont have this option here |
| 17:04.47 | leleobhz | Kame2: i select add widget and appear a dialog with installed widgets |
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| 17:04.51 | leleobhz | no option to install new |
| 17:05.38 | djouallah_ | please guy how to disable those frame around icons on the desktop, they are damn ugly ;( |
| 17:06.16 | Kame2 | djouallah_: give me a moment, i am testing some ideas to get rid of them |
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| 17:06.24 | J-23 | why plasma-appletsrc is created automatically and there aren't any static configuration files? |
| 17:06.26 | Kame2 | leleobhz: what version do you have? |
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| 17:06.41 | djouallah_ | sorry Kame2 take your time then ;) |
| 17:06.41 | dokma | hi guys |
| 17:06.42 | leleobhz | 4.0.2 |
| 17:07.00 | dokma | is there some utility that can give me coordinates of a selection over desktop? |
| 17:07.13 | Kame2 | maybe the button is from 4.1. don't know |
| 17:07.42 | Kame2 | i use svn and it is there for quite some time |
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| 17:15.08 | theFATMAN | hey, i'm using kubuntu, anyone know a guide for editing kcsrc files? |
| 17:15.25 | theFATMAN | color scheme files |
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| 17:18.35 | yunosh | hi, can anybody tell me where the graphics that make up widgets are located on the file system? i'm not talking about /usr/share/icons, but rather stuff like scrollbar and window bar widgets |
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| 17:21.44 | Kame2 | djouallah_: i have edited the svg-file for icons so it has no background, but it is still there. maybe a bug, maybe not implemented jetm maybe it's my fault. |
| 17:25.19 | pinotree | yunosh: depends on the style used, most styles have no external resources, but paint everything on their own |
| 17:25.28 | pinotree | what are you looking for, but for real? |
| 17:26.04 | yunosh | and store it where? in .so files? i'm looking for free icons to build my own scrollbar widget |
| 17:26.36 | yunosh | well, i have the widget, but it's ugly |
| 17:26.41 | pinotree | they mostly paint th stuff |
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| 17:28.05 | yunosh | ok, time to start up gimp again, i guess. good chance to finally learn how to create color fades :) |
| 17:28.38 | theFATMAN | hey, i'm using kubuntu, anyone know a guide for editing kcsrc files? |
| 17:28.47 | theFATMAN | color scheme files |
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| 17:33.24 | steven_ | can i get some help |
| 17:33.33 | Half-Left | hello! |
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| 17:33.55 | Half-Left | Whats the best build order for KDE4.1beta? |
| 17:34.07 | thiago | the same one from 4.0 |
| 17:34.24 | thiago | which is almost the same one from KDE 1.0, except that you have to build kdepimlibs between kdelibs and kdebase |
| 17:34.26 | Half-Left | what order was that? :p |
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| 17:34.51 | thiago | the same that is in the techbase web pages |
| 17:34.52 | theFATMAN | hey, i'm using kubuntu 8.04 w/ KDE 3.5;, anyone know a guide for editing kcsrc files? |
| 17:35.59 | Half-Left | kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase? |
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| 17:38.23 | Half-Left | thiago: If you have some kde4.0.4 bits installed in the same place as kde4.1beta is going to be installed, will get compile errors? |
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| 17:39.05 | thiago | Half-Left: no |
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| 17:41.50 | Half-Left | Lets see if kde graphics dont throw up a error this time |
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| 17:44.03 | thiago | Half-Left: of course, you need all of the updated packages to be installed |
| 17:44.22 | thiago | any dependencies of whatever you're installing |
| 17:44.47 | Half-Left | Yep go them |
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| 17:45.45 | Half-Left | just keep getting this error |
| 17:45.51 | Half-Left | "CMake Error: Akonadi_DIR is not set." |
| 17:46.02 | Half-Left | " It must be set to the directory containing AkonadiConfig.cmake in order to use Akonadi." |
| 17:46.28 | thiago | 19:44 < thiago> any dependencies of whatever you're installing |
| 17:46.32 | thiago | you have not installed all dependencies |
| 17:46.35 | thiago | install akonadi |
| 17:46.42 | srg_ | ÐÐ ÐÐÐÐ |
| 17:46.56 | thiago | srg_: English please. |
| 17:47.01 | Half-Left | How can I install it if I dont have it, that supposed to build it |
| 17:47.13 | thiago | Half-Left: akonadi must be built before kdelibs |
| 17:47.51 | thiago | Half-Left: which guide are you following? |
| 17:48.04 | Half-Left | oh, so I have to uninstall kdelibs and try kdepim again? |
| 17:48.20 | Half-Left | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 17:48.50 | thiago | Half-Left: no, you must compile akonadi before kdelibs, then kdepimlibs, then kdebase, then anything else |
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| 17:49.35 | flip | are there 4.1 pkgs for debian? |
| 17:49.39 | thiago | hmm... guide is outdated |
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| 17:49.49 | thiago | akonadi is in kdesupport. You must build that first. |
| 17:49.54 | Half-Left | but akonadi is part of kdepim though isn't it? |
| 17:50.00 | Marchitos | Why i get call to lnusertemp failed by launching a Kde4 session? |
| 17:50.09 | thiago | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites |
| 17:50.15 | thiago | no, akonadi is part of kdesupport |
| 17:50.23 | thiago | Marchitos: because lnusertemp failed |
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| 17:50.34 | Marchitos | how to solve? |
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| 17:51.39 | Half-Left | thiago: hmm I have got the kdesupport deps installed |
| 17:51.57 | thiago | Half-Left: is akonadi installed then? |
| 17:52.14 | Marchitos | i have checked permission, no problem |
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| 17:52.58 | Half-Left | thiago: kdesupport is a separate thing from kde packages? |
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| 17:53.39 | Half-Left | I have Strigi and Soprano stuff like that installed, dev packages |
| 17:53.41 | thiago | Half-Left: kdesupport is not a package. |
| 17:53.52 | thiago | Half-Left: you must install akonadi (which is in kdesupport) |
| 17:54.07 | theFATMAN | hey, i'm using kubuntu 8.04 w/ KDE 3.5;, anyone know a guide for editing kcsrc files? |
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| 18:00.44 | Half-Left | thiago: I have all the dev packages http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian |
| 18:01.01 | thiago | there's no akonadi released package |
| 18:01.06 | thiago | you need to build from source |
| 18:01.20 | Half-Left | oh ok |
| 18:01.47 | MoDaX | Half-Left: debian or kubuntu? |
| 18:02.38 | MoDaX | akonadi 0.81.0 is debian experimental |
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| 18:03.00 | Half-Left | Linux mint which is based off Ubuntu hardy |
| 18:04.50 | Half-Left | Right so I have to get it from svn, anyone know the command? |
| 18:06.18 | MoDaX | Half-Left: svn co miror/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/akonadi |
| 18:06.29 | Half-Left | thanks |
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| 18:10.02 | Half-Left | hmmm thats not right |
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| 18:12.01 | djouallah | Kame2, sorry i have a chaotic net connexion, is it possible to make folder view absolutly transparent ? |
| 18:12.09 | Half-Left | MoDaX: can't connect, needs username and password |
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| 18:12.35 | MoDaX | Half-Left: anonsvn.kde.org |
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| 18:13.22 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 18:13.28 | Half-Left | svn co anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/akonadi |
| 18:13.43 | Half-Left | "svn: Client error in parsing arguments" |
| 18:13.45 | MoDaX | svn://anonsvn.kde.org |
| 18:13.47 | fas3r | what's the minimal package of kde ? ( because if i do apt-get install kde it install all of kde) |
| 18:13.59 | MoDaX | fas3r: distro? |
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| 18:14.09 | fas3r | MoDaX: debian sorry |
| 18:14.22 | MoDaX | fas3r: kde-core |
| 18:14.36 | fas3r | MoDaX: ok thank MoDaX |
| 18:14.39 | thiago | fas3r: ask in #debian or #debian-kde |
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| 18:16.12 | ScorpKing-Laptop | hi guys. what is the cli command to lock the screen? |
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| 18:16.40 | Half-Left | gah |
| 18:17.35 | Half-Left | nothing there :/ |
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| 18:17.49 | thiago | ScorpKing-Laptop: KDE 3 or 4? |
| 18:18.07 | friedrich| | how do I rearrange widgets in the panel? |
| 18:18.16 | ScorpKing-Laptop | 3. i found it. thanks :) dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 18:18.18 | annma | dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock (if kde3) |
| 18:18.31 | ScorpKing-Laptop | thanks guys :) |
| 18:18.33 | eternaleye | Hi, I'm using Konsole 4, and I'm trying to run a script that takes percent-escaped formats. The only problem is, konqueror tries to be smart and substitutes in stuff like the time for %T. Any way to turn it off? |
| 18:18.54 | thiago | eternaleye: no |
| 18:18.55 | eternaleye | s/konqueror/konsole/ |
| 18:18.57 | Half-Left | MoDaX: can't get it from svn, it dont exist |
| 18:19.15 | thiago | eternaleye: escape it (double %) |
| 18:19.25 | eternaleye | Ah, thanks |
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| 18:20.32 | thiago | Half-Left: it's not empty |
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| 18:20.45 | thiago | sees a lot of files in trunk/kdesupport/akonadi |
| 18:21.07 | friedrich| | how do I rearrange widgets in the panel? |
| 18:21.08 | Half-Left | yer I see it but maybe my line is wrong |
| 18:21.16 | Half-Left | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/akonadi |
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| 18:22.02 | thiago | home/kde is missing |
| 18:22.26 | eternaleye | Hm, and now that escaping percent is in there (it's a music renamer, and %a is artist - but it gives a blank. Escaped as %a, it gives %{artist's name} ) |
| 18:22.26 | Half-Left | ahhh, thanks :) |
| 18:22.46 | eternaleye | ack, 2nd %a should be %a |
| 18:23.02 | eternaleye | Gah, konversation's doing it now! |
| 18:23.17 | eternaleye | should have teo %'s |
| 18:24.21 | milliams_ | shoots milliams |
| 18:24.59 | Half-Left | ugh, kde4 is a major pain in the arse to build now days :/ |
| 18:25.06 | thiago | Half-Left: it's very easy |
| 18:25.44 | thiago | Qt, kdesupport, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase, anything else (provided kdevplatform comes before kdevelop and kdewebdev; extragear/libs before the rest of extragear) |
| 18:25.52 | Half-Left | Not as easy as kde3 was and GNU |
| 18:26.12 | annma | <cough> kde3 was not so easy either |
| 18:26.23 | Half-Left | I like the way cmake prints the output though |
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| 18:26.42 | thiago | KDE 3 was: Qt, kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase, anything else (provided extragear/libs comes before the rest of extragear) |
| 18:26.50 | thiago | how much difficult is KDE 4? |
| 18:26.50 | Half-Left | I'm so used to ./configure --prefix= |
| 18:27.12 | annma | Half-Left: and wait for 30 minutes when you did make -C |
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| 18:27.31 | annma | automake was dead slow |
| 18:27.34 | Half-Left | annma: Why is it faster? |
| 18:27.48 | thiago | much faster |
| 18:27.51 | annma | cmake is faster |
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| 18:28.03 | thiago | automake isn't that bad though... libtool was BAAAD |
| 18:28.54 | Half-Left | it's just weird how you run it |
| 18:29.22 | BlueAidan_work | why when I create a new Session in konsole, with the Execute line being "ssh -t signet screen -dr", does it always ask for a password? I've got pubkey auth working, and if I type the same command from a regular terminal anywhere else, I'm logged in fine |
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| 18:30.14 | thiago | BlueAidan_work: that's a ssh question, not a KDE question |
| 18:30.18 | Half-Left | why is cmake so good at cross platform when gnu stuff had crossplaform tools anyway? |
| 18:30.33 | thiago | Half-Left: because CMake is much easier to write for |
| 18:30.48 | BlueAidan_work | thiago: how do you figure? the only place it doesn't work is as a Session in konsole |
| 18:30.51 | thiago | Half-Left: much less cryptic than the autotools. And we don't need to maintain our set of extensions to it. |
| 18:31.01 | thiago | BlueAidan_work: does your ssh key have a password? |
| 18:31.02 | BlueAidan_work | i.e., part of the drop-down menu |
| 18:31.08 | BlueAidan_work | of course |
| 18:31.20 | thiago | BlueAidan_work: is ssh-agent running? |
| 18:31.22 | BlueAidan_work | yes |
| 18:31.28 | thiago | have you ssh-add'ed the key? |
| 18:31.30 | BlueAidan_work | like I said, it works everywhere else |
| 18:31.34 | BlueAidan_work | yes. |
| 18:31.36 | Half-Left | thiago: So it had nothing to do with politics of GNU? |
| 18:31.37 | thiago | how was ssh-agent started? |
| 18:31.40 | thiago | Half-Left: no |
| 18:31.46 | thiago | Half-Left: technical reasons. |
| 18:31.54 | BlueAidan_work | via .bash_profile before the kde session was started |
| 18:32.07 | thiago | BlueAidan_work: are you sure it is in KDE's environment? |
| 18:32.25 | BlueAidan_work | how do I check that? |
| 18:32.32 | thiago | BlueAidan_work: make a session that runs "/usr/bin/env" and make it pause at the end |
| 18:32.46 | Half-Left | ok, building kdesupport now :) |
| 18:33.07 | annma | Half-Left: want to contribute to kde? |
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| 18:34.56 | BlueAidan_work | thiago: looks like SSH_AUTH_SOCK isn't getting passed |
| 18:35.00 | BlueAidan_work | how do I fix that? |
| 18:35.19 | BlueAidan_work | I'm starting kde via xdmcp |
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| 18:35.51 | thiago | fix the script that is run before startkde |
| 18:36.05 | thiago | ssh-agent has to be loaded before startkde is run |
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| 18:39.39 | Half-Left | annma: How? |
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| 18:40.17 | Half-Left | annma: I sort of did in the past for kde4 artwork |
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| 18:51.19 | tudon | is there a setting for submenu delay for kde4 qt4 aps..? where can i find it . config file? |
| 18:51.54 | tudon | i want to reduce the delay |
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| 19:01.00 | GraveDigger | tech9iner: cheerio :D |
| 19:01.48 | Half-Left | Can't wait to try Raptor :) |
| 19:02.15 | sgraham | ok there is a splash screen between the kdm and the loged in user..i think the resolution on it is waaay to high. I can see the top of that display box in the lower right and corner of my screen, then it just takes me right back to the kdm login screen. |
| 19:02.21 | sgraham | anyone understand what im talking about? |
| 19:02.30 | sgraham | i have to use gdm to log into the box. another note, XDM does the exact same thing. |
| 19:04.22 | tech9iner | GraveDigger: aye i eye m'frrrrrriend ;]] |
| 19:04.36 | GraveDigger | :D |
| 19:04.44 | GraveDigger | tech9iner: howdy! how're ya doin? |
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| 19:05.17 | tech9iner | busier than a one armed peach picker.. u GraveDigger? |
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| 19:06.38 | endafy | hey quick question how do i start kde in windows instead of explorer? |
| 19:06.39 | GraveDigger | *sigh* pretty much the same ... exams come in less than a month, i have a job to do besides studying ... well, i almost don't know what "free time" is anymore :( |
| 19:07.37 | bren | hi guys - could someone please give me some advice? I'm trying to increase the volume on my laptop. I'm dual booting win xp and am linux and am using the kde gui |
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| 19:07.53 | annma_ | use kmix |
| 19:07.54 | bren | how can I increase the system volume? |
| 19:08.00 | annma_ | kmix |
| 19:08.03 | endafy | kmix |
| 19:08.07 | GraveDigger | kmix |
| 19:08.12 | annma_ | ask your distro channel about kmix |
| 19:08.14 | Dakon | how can I start a specific KDE application in one special language (trunk)? |
| 19:08.21 | bren | cheers guys - i'll try that |
| 19:08.26 | annma_ | install the language first Dakon |
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| 19:08.33 | PhilRod | bren: do you want to bind a key to volume change, or just change the volume once? |
| 19:08.41 | Dakon | annma_: I want LANG=C instead of de |
| 19:08.44 | PhilRod | Dakon: KDE_LANG=<langcode> kdeapp |
| 19:08.47 | endafy | hey quick question how do i start kde in windows instead of explorer? |
| 19:08.50 | Dakon | need to take some screenshots for docu ;) |
| 19:08.51 | annma_ | Dakon: use the switch mlanguage in each kde app |
| 19:09.16 | PhilRod | annma_: oh, is that in all kde apps in kde4? if so, cool - didn't notice that |
| 19:09.16 | endafy | or has anyone in here played with it yet |
| 19:10.03 | endafy | I LOVE KDE4 it is so amazing i can't wait for it to be as usable as kde3 |
| 19:10.13 | annma_ | hmm Kate does nto have it |
| 19:10.39 | annma_ | KHangMan has it |
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| 19:11.05 | |Frederik | Does anybody know of a knotify4 (4.0.81) crash about every second after login? |
| 19:12.00 | endafy | so has anyone gotten kde to run fully in windows yet? |
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| 19:13.23 | bren | kmix |
| 19:13.33 | GraveDigger | hmmmm ... are mouse gestures like with khotkeys in kde3 already implemented in kde4? oO |
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| 19:14.08 | endafy | no not yet gravediffer |
| 19:14.13 | endafy | gravedigger |
| 19:14.16 | endafy | wow cant type |
| 19:14.22 | GraveDigger | hmmm okay |
| 19:14.34 | GraveDigger | i really miss them, mouse gestures totally rock! |
| 19:14.38 | endafy | KDE4 is pretty much kde-core |
| 19:14.41 | Nyle | mouse gestures are inside kde |
| 19:14.47 | Nyle | oh you mean kde4 |
| 19:14.52 | GraveDigger | exactly |
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| 19:15.02 | Nyle | but you dig graves |
| 19:15.04 | Nyle | ? |
| 19:15.06 | GraveDigger | ... |
| 19:15.14 | Nyle | just wondering |
| 19:15.27 | GraveDigger | that joke is not funny |
| 19:15.35 | Nyle | I'm laughing my sack off here ;) |
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| 19:16.17 | Nyle | GraveDigger, keep diggin for another year or two |
| 19:16.22 | endafy | hey nyle u get KDE to run successfully in windows or did you try it yet? |
| 19:16.33 | Nyle | hopefully by then kdek4 will be mature enough somewhat as much as kde3 is now |
| 19:16.46 | Nyle | it will take time and then kde4 is gonna kick so much ass its gonna hurt in real life |
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| 19:16.58 | Nyle | endafy, it works fine (apps) |
| 19:16.58 | endafy | it will seriously kill windows |
| 19:17.00 | snitch__ | do any of you know about configuring your multimedia keys for use in xorg |
| 19:17.15 | endafy | right thats all I got is the apps and was wondering if the entire DE was ported yet |
| 19:17.16 | GraveDigger | Nyle: fuck off |
| 19:17.19 | Nyle | uses hydrogen/skype/couple of other kde/cygwin apps |
| 19:17.24 | GraveDigger | Nyle: as i said, this is not funny ... |
| 19:17.27 | Nyle | GraveDigger, why are you in such a bad mood? |
| 19:17.36 | endafy | cygwin sucks |
| 19:17.38 | Nyle | I'm sorry i was just kidding, you should really sit down and relax or something |
| 19:17.39 | Nyle | :) |
| 19:17.39 | GraveDigger | Nyle: i thought you get the message, but it seems you do not ... so i get more "intense" |
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| 19:17.54 | Nyle | I don't care about your intensity, you're just a random irc dude |
| 19:17.58 | Nyle | you don't bother me :) |
| 19:18.02 | endafy | take a joke seriously it happens to the best of us |
| 19:18.29 | Nyle | endafy, what I do now is this |
| 19:18.35 | Nyle | hang on i'll upload a screenshot |
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| 19:19.06 | endafy | ok |
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| 19:19.55 | Nyle | upping now |
| 19:20.05 | linuxjoergen | I have a strange problem in KDE 4.1 Beta 1. Same installation on both my work machine and my home machine. .kde4 was removed prior to the installation. On my machine at work flashplugin-nonfree works. At my home machine not |
| 19:20.06 | endafy | post a link when done :) |
| 19:20.14 | Nyle | endafy, nah |
| 19:20.18 | endafy | haha lol |
| 19:20.18 | Nyle | I thought i'd keep it to myself :) |
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| 19:20.55 | Nyle | whats a good image host |
| 19:21.13 | endafy | u know digging graves may make you a little narcissistic and rude as he probably has no experience with the living |
| 19:21.17 | endafy | i use photobucket |
| 19:21.40 | endafy | KDE and flash aren't the same |
| 19:21.46 | endafy | u need to specify ur browser |
| 19:21.48 | mathias | Hi! I have trouble with compiling kdelibs. I think it depends on phonon. Should I disable it in qt and use it from kdesupport? |
| 19:22.08 | linuxjoergen | endafy: It's in konqueror... flash works perfectly in firefox on both machines. |
| 19:22.44 | endafy | dont use konqueror lol j.k jeez it works for me |
| 19:22.49 | endafy | idk man |
| 19:23.03 | Nyle | endafy, http://imageupload.com/out.php/i125119_desktop.jpg <-- my somewhat older desktop from a while ago |
| 19:23.06 | Nyle | http://imageupload.com/out.php/i125119_desktop.jpg |
| 19:23.07 | Nyle | opos |
| 19:23.09 | endafy | check /etc/mozilla/plugins |
| 19:23.10 | Nyle | click |
| 19:23.37 | endafy | ooo pretty |
| 19:23.38 | endafy | brb |
| 19:23.42 | linuxjoergen | endafy: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 2008-05-31 20:12 mozilla-flashplugin -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
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| 19:24.09 | Nyle | endafy, there is a lot going on in theat screenshot |
| 19:24.16 | Nyle | endafy, can you identify the platform and apps |
| 19:24.17 | Nyle | ? |
| 19:24.20 | Nyle | :D |
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| 19:24.39 | tudon | iv read somewhere officialy flash only supports gtk2 browsers . |
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| 19:24.59 | sgraham | ok there is a splash screen between the kdm and the loged in user..i think the resolution on it is waaay to high. I can see the top of that display box in the lower right and corner of my screen, then it just takes me right back to the kdm login screen. |
| 19:25.00 | Nyle | tudon, really? |
| 19:25.04 | Nyle | what about internet explorer? |
| 19:25.07 | tudon | but it works again in the latest beta of opera anyways |
| 19:25.08 | Nyle | opera? |
| 19:25.14 | tudon | i meant in linux |
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| 19:25.17 | Nyle | i see |
| 19:25.25 | Nyle | not sure on that one |
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| 19:26.44 | sgraham | is there a config file for just that screen? |
| 19:27.05 | sgraham | i guess I would call it the services startup splash screen if i had to give it a name |
| 19:27.16 | Nyle | its not a splash screen issue |
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| 19:27.29 | Nyle | your kdm settings seem to be alongside of Xorg's |
| 19:27.41 | Nyle | however, you somehow managed to set a bad resolution for your user |
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| 19:27.53 | Nyle | so now when you login, it loads your session |
| 19:27.58 | Nyle | applies your resoultion right after you login |
| 19:28.00 | sgraham | ya, thought about that tried creating a new user same problem |
| 19:28.09 | Nyle | thus effectively making it seem that its the splash screen |
| 19:28.10 | Nyle | while its not |
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| 19:28.21 | Nyle | unfortunatly i do not know where the setting for this is stored |
| 19:28.29 | Nyle | try as a new user see if this happens again |
| 19:28.35 | sgraham | why does it work fine if i use gdm? |
| 19:28.45 | sgraham | and i already answerd that above |
| 19:28.49 | sgraham | ya, thought about that tried creating a new user same problem |
| 19:29.04 | Nyle | ok tell me the whole problem again? |
| 19:29.18 | sgraham | ok there is a splash screen between the kdm and the loged in user..i think the resolution on it is waaay to high. I can see the top of that display box in the lower right and corner of my screen, then it just takes me right back to the kdm login screen. |
| 19:29.22 | Nyle | not that way |
| 19:29.22 | Nyle | :) |
| 19:29.29 | sgraham | ok |
| 19:29.40 | Nyle | you have kde installed and you use kdm |
| 19:29.47 | endafy | wow i like what u done |
| 19:29.56 | endafy | im gunna gues mac |
| 19:29.59 | Nyle | when you boot up, you get kdm login screen, and resolution is ok? |
| 19:30.05 | sgraham | if i use kdm as the graphical greeter it all seems to work fine as far as collecting the login information. |
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| 19:30.10 | sgraham | yes resolution is fine |
| 19:30.21 | Nyle | then when you login, the res fucks up? |
| 19:30.29 | endafy | loves debian though |
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| 19:30.41 | Nyle | endafy, who says i don't run debian :) |
| 19:30.45 | Nyle | endafy, its windows xp btw |
| 19:30.53 | Nyle | look at the desktop icons man |
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| 19:30.54 | endafy | wow sexy |
| 19:30.56 | Nyle | all windows apps |
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| 19:31.10 | endafy | nice |
| 19:31.15 | Nyle | xp pro x64 + xming + sshx + debian sid laptop |
| 19:31.20 | Nyle | all on my desktop |
| 19:31.32 | Nyle | I pipe my desktop audio server to the windows esd client |
| 19:31.35 | sgraham | then..i enter login info.. and it goes to an all blue screen ..i can see the top left and corner of a dialog box of some sort. im assuming its the services splash screen (because it looks like the right collor) |
| 19:31.39 | Nyle | effectly getting sound from my laptop on my desktop |
| 19:31.45 | Dakon | PhilRod: KDE_LANG doesn't work |
| 19:31.59 | Dakon | annma: kgpg --mlanguage gives an error |
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| 19:32.07 | endafy | i have seen some amazing stuff with windows xp |
| 19:32.10 | Nyle | meaning, I can have all my music on my desktop, run my amarok on my laptop and have it display on desktop, and when i play songs, the sound goes over the network to my windows box and voila |
| 19:32.13 | sgraham | and that is in the right hand lower corner...like the resolution is reallly high and im seeing just the left hand top corner os th screen. |
| 19:32.15 | Nyle | I got amarok on windows |
| 19:32.16 | Nyle | :) |
| 19:32.39 | endafy | well i cant wait for the windows port of amaroko |
| 19:32.49 | Nyle | I couldn't wait either |
| 19:32.52 | Nyle | so i figured out a way |
| 19:32.55 | PhilRod | Dakon: just LANG perhaps? |
| 19:33.02 | Nyle | sgraham, sec |
| 19:33.06 | endafy | without the o on the end ;) but this is seriously going to do some damage to windows |
| 19:33.23 | Nyle | sgraham, looks like it is setting your resolution to a VERY low number |
| 19:33.26 | Nyle | now |
| 19:33.28 | Dakon | PhilRod: too easy ;) |
| 19:33.28 | endafy | du know if they are going to port the entire DE to windows |
| 19:33.32 | Nyle | you said if you use gdm, you get no problems? |
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| 19:33.41 | Nyle | even after login? |
| 19:33.45 | sgraham | no problems with gdm correct |
| 19:33.48 | Nyle | hm |
| 19:33.50 | sgraham | correct |
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| 19:33.56 | Nyle | ok let me think |
| 19:33.57 | sgraham | also xdm has the same issue |
| 19:34.12 | endafy | because if they do I can port it to react os and boom |
| 19:34.26 | Nyle | endafy, no |
| 19:34.33 | Nyle | its not feasible |
| 19:34.35 | endafy | psh |
| 19:34.40 | endafy | makes me sad |
| 19:34.41 | Nyle | only certain apps will be ported |
| 19:34.47 | Nyle | no need |
| 19:34.51 | Nyle | we have many alternatives |
| 19:34.54 | endafy | sure there is a need |
| 19:35.00 | endafy | there is a huge need |
| 19:35.08 | Nyle | ok |
| 19:35.24 | endafy | i might try my hand at it once more work is done |
| 19:35.31 | Nyle | why don't you implement the amarok functionality and script/addon compatability with say songbird |
| 19:35.50 | Nyle | combine internet player with amarok style player |
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| 19:36.09 | Nyle | i dunno |
| 19:36.24 | Nyle | this is like |
| 19:36.35 | Nyle | encouraging more users to stick with windows if they get thier fav apps on it |
| 19:36.38 | hanan | Hi, I've got 32-bit flash-9 working on firefox 64-bit, but konqueror (kde-4) doesn't recognize it |
| 19:36.41 | Nyle | thats not good for linux ;) |
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| 19:36.55 | endafy | i dont like linux |
| 19:36.56 | Nyle | hanan, it won't unless you use nspluginwrapper |
| 19:37.06 | Nyle | hanan, it should see it as a netnscape plugin |
| 19:37.09 | illogical | If the platform is good it won't matter nyle. |
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| 19:37.14 | Nyle | illogical, hi |
| 19:37.15 | endafy | i actually dislike the entire *nix platform |
| 19:37.19 | Nyle | illogical, you still mad at me bro? |
| 19:37.27 | Nyle | :( |
| 19:37.30 | endafy | I would love to see KDE in freedos |
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| 19:38.14 | Nyle | endafy, dude |
| 19:38.15 | sgraham | dislike the nix platform? |
| 19:38.15 | illogical | i'm not mad at you at all. i'm just having nothing to do with someone who insults other people and think it's ok. |
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| 19:38.20 | sgraham | bizar |
| 19:38.35 | illogical | endafy: o_0 |
| 19:38.39 | illogical | freedos? |
| 19:38.42 | Nyle | illogical, YOU take it as an insult because you KNOW its true. |
| 19:38.45 | illogical | really? |
| 19:38.59 | Nyle | I wouldn't have said it if i didn't care for you as a friend |
| 19:39.04 | Nyle | as a coworker and other stuff |
| 19:39.08 | Nyle | no malintent here dude' |
| 19:39.10 | endafy | idk if he meant it as an insult and only as a joke |
| 19:39.13 | Nyle | get that through your head |
| 19:39.15 | sgraham | im running 4 vm's two being windows, 2 being linux all on my inspiron laptop. All of that via a kubuntu desktop. cant do this with windows..ive tried. |
| 19:39.36 | Nyle | damn man dude homie bro 4 vm |
| 19:39.42 | Nyle | sgraham, could you tell me your HW setup? |
| 19:39.51 | endafy | well I know how to make windows dance and do more than I can make linux |
| 19:40.01 | illogical | hahah |
| 19:40.01 | endafy | its the tool you know |
| 19:40.11 | illogical | endafy: we have doncing windows too :-) |
| 19:40.16 | endafy | haha lol |
| 19:40.20 | Nyle | you know what |
| 19:40.20 | endafy | nlite is amazing |
| 19:40.23 | hanan | hi Nyle, I've got nspluginviewer/nspluginscan installed, and firefox uses the adobe plugins via nswrapper_32_64 |
| 19:40.24 | illogical | dancing even. |
| 19:40.28 | sgraham | inspiron from dell..ubuntu preinstall. 128 nvidia video..4 gigs of ram and 2 duos..im only running 32 bit as well. |
| 19:40.30 | Nyle | I think our windows dance better than Aero |
| 19:40.34 | Nyle | fuck Aero |
| 19:40.41 | Nyle | compiz is superior in every way |
| 19:41.03 | endafy | im not even saying eyecandy i can do a lot in windows |
| 19:41.18 | Nyle | you can do more in linux if you let go of your presuppositions about it |
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| 19:41.21 | Nyle | its not hard or difficult |
| 19:41.23 | Nyle | its just new |
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| 19:41.25 | endafy | i like having the ability to run my apps without issue |
| 19:41.26 | sgraham | by the way i highly recommend the 1420's with ubuntu preinstalled.. was really cool to get a new laptop out of the box running everything |
| 19:41.32 | illogical | endafy: if you don't want to use linux because you don't like it that fine IMO. but if it's only because you find it unfamiliar, then you are missing out on a wholly superior computing experience. |
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| 19:41.45 | illogical | and this is coming from the guy using OS X :-) |
| 19:41.51 | Nyle | anything new that you don't know and are not familiar with is going to seem difficult. Stick with it,and believe me,as a user even, you can accomplish so much more in linux than inn windows |
| 19:42.03 | Nyle | given that you don't game heavily or have specific business needs for windows |
| 19:42.15 | endafy | i miss my apps and all and wine seriously fails for me |
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| 19:42.22 | endafy | running them in vm is not good enough |
| 19:42.30 | illogical | endafy: what apps? |
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| 19:42.37 | endafy | games and buisness apps |
| 19:42.41 | illogical | lol |
| 19:42.45 | endafy | i work for a law firm |
| 19:42.50 | Nyle | endafy, have the testicular fortitude to say, "fuck linux, linux don't own me. I'm gonna show linux whose boss, letme learn it and kick linux's ass" |
| 19:42.58 | Nyle | endafy, that should be your attitude:) |
| 19:43.01 | Nyle | don't give up |
| 19:43.02 | endafy | haha |
| 19:43.03 | endafy | lol |
| 19:43.19 | endafy | i love KDE and use linux specifically for it |
| 19:43.52 | endafy | but if I could have KDE on windows AND be able to keep my games and apps then I would be a lot happier |
| 19:44.09 | Nyle | I use kde on my windows xp desktop primarily |
| 19:44.12 | Nyle | I hardly use any windows apps |
| 19:44.21 | Nyle | when i need to game, I send kde to background |
| 19:44.27 | Nyle | and p lay my games without having nto reboot |
| 19:44.31 | endafy | right |
| 19:44.50 | Nyle | but i do it through cygwin slash ssh X |
| 19:44.53 | endafy | but most of the apps arent microsoft apps |
| 19:44.58 | tudon | you can stick with games that work in linux |
| 19:44.58 | Nyle | and audio tunneling |
| 19:45.20 | Half-Left | Your still using windows, which is evil in itself :p |
| 19:45.22 | illogical | endafy: the proper solution then is to have a gaming machine and a desktop :-) |
| 19:45.25 | endafy | idk i have issues with ubuntu and am thinking of jumping to something else but dont know where |
| 19:45.35 | Nyle | debian. |
| 19:45.42 | illogical | although personally i would just use transgaming for games. |
| 19:45.42 | Nyle | ubuntu is crap, just like rap |
| 19:45.59 | Nyle | cedega won't play oblivion or morrowind |
| 19:46.02 | endafy | idk audio doesn't work with any of my apps |
| 19:46.03 | illogical | ubuntu is actually pretty good despite what nyle says. |
| 19:46.04 | Nyle | for me its useless |
| 19:46.19 | Half-Left | I have CSS and GTA Vice City running in WINE so I'm ok :) |
| 19:46.21 | Nyle | yeh well im not a windows yuppy looking to use linux |
| 19:46.29 | Nyle | I'm a linux yuppy looking to use an OS that works |
| 19:46.36 | tudon | does sa mp work in wine too for gta sa |
| 19:46.39 | tudon | ? |
| 19:46.39 | endafy | maybe it is sudo this and sudo that that makes me angry and other things not working |
| 19:46.42 | Nyle | quality of debian > any other distro |
| 19:46.48 | illogical | Nyle: then use OS X :-D |
| 19:46.50 | Nyle | the sheer number of distros based on debian vouch for it |
| 19:46.50 | Half-Left | GTA SA does yer |
| 19:46.57 | PhilRod | sends y'all to #distro-wars |
| 19:47.00 | Nyle | illogical, more nonfree stuff |
| 19:47.00 | endafy | osx86 buahahaha |
| 19:47.01 | Half-Left | It's not perfect though |
| 19:47.07 | Nyle | PhilRod, sorry |
| 19:47.10 | tudon | samp is the multiplayer program for it |
| 19:47.24 | illogical | Nyle: i have tons of free software on here. |
| 19:47.27 | illogical | Like amarok 2. |
| 19:47.29 | Nyle | great |
| 19:47.30 | illogical | HAAAAAAAAAAH |
| 19:47.32 | Nyle | your os is not free. |
| 19:47.40 | illogical | did i say that out loud? |
| 19:47.42 | illogical | :-D |
| 19:47.51 | endafy | using a mac is just as bad as using windows if not worse |
| 19:48.01 | endafy | talk about vendor lockin |
| 19:48.06 | Half-Left | Windows users only ever have illegal software, mostly Photoshop |
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| 19:48.13 | illogical | hugs his mac even more. |
| 19:48.17 | endafy | i use gimp ty very much |
| 19:48.18 | *** part/#kde J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) |
| 19:48.20 | endafy | and i pay for my apps |
| 19:48.21 | Half-Left | illegal* |
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| 19:48.27 | Nyle | software is not illegal |
| 19:48.32 | Nyle | the means of obtaining it are |
| 19:48.34 | Half-Left | endafy: I use nothing but GIMP :) |
| 19:48.37 | Nyle | ;) |
| 19:48.47 | endafy | i hate photoshop after using gimp |
| 19:48.52 | endafy | wont go back |
| 19:48.53 | illogical | endafy: the only thing i care about when it comes to computers is things just working. |
| 19:49.02 | Nyle | photoshop is superior to gimp |
| 19:49.07 | Nyle | there is not even a comparision |
| 19:49.10 | Half-Left | endafy: 2.5.x is pretty sweet so far |
| 19:49.21 | Nyle | illogical, I like to make things work |
| 19:49.27 | Nyle | I don't want others making them work for me |
| 19:49.29 | illogical | os x allows me to tinker if i want but doesn't require me to. same with ubuntu. |
| 19:49.33 | tudon | people who say that . in most cases do not know what gimp can do |
| 19:49.34 | Nyle | which is WHY I hate ubuntu |
| 19:49.38 | Half-Left | Nyle: Not if you count the price, it's overrated |
| 19:49.38 | endafy | idk unless photoshop cs4 offers something other than 64bit goodness then im not really going to use it |
| 19:49.41 | Nyle | and also becasue ubuntu is highly unstable for me |
| 19:49.45 | Nyle | price? |
| 19:49.52 | Nyle | I paid the price to learn debian 7 years ago |
| 19:50.01 | Nyle | now everything is zipping zooming |
| 19:50.05 | Half-Left | yer 550 quid |
| 19:50.08 | Nyle | no |
| 19:50.12 | Nyle | just a few months of my time |
| 19:50.13 | Half-Left | yep |
| 19:50.18 | Nyle | and a few years of supporting it in #debian |
| 19:50.32 | illogical | i need my time for other things. like watching anime. |
| 19:50.35 | Nyle | what price did i pay ? |
| 19:50.36 | Nyle | none |
| 19:50.44 | Half-Left | for what? |
| 19:50.45 | Nyle | did i benefit from it, more so than i would have ever paid |
| 19:50.46 | illogical | and waasting time on irc chatting about nonsense. |
| 19:50.53 | Nyle | illogical, anime? |
| 19:50.54 | endafy | i cant wait for october for the next release of debian thats when I may actually jump entirely linux |
| 19:50.56 | Nyle | ugh. |
| 19:51.03 | tudon | anime is very important yes.:P like macross frontier |
| 19:51.03 | illogical | AniMAY |
| 19:51.07 | Nyle | Hentai |
| 19:51.11 | illogical | tudon++ |
| 19:51.15 | Nyle | now THAT is what you should be watching |
| 19:51.22 | endafy | anime makes the world go around psh |
| 19:51.26 | Nyle | I can't watch animated japanese fiction |
| 19:51.28 | illogical | cartoon porn? really? |
| 19:51.29 | Nyle | its just not my thing |
| 19:51.37 | illogical | i'll pass. |
| 19:51.42 | Nyle | plus japanese are insane with imaginatio |
| 19:51.49 | Nyle | crazy friggin stories man |
| 19:51.50 | Nyle | wow |
| 19:51.58 | endafy | watashi wa nippon-go desu ka? |
| 19:52.03 | Nyle | eh? |
| 19:52.11 | Nyle | waka waka |
| 19:52.18 | endafy | does anyone speak japanese |
| 19:52.20 | Nyle | ohio |
| 19:52.24 | Nyle | go zay masoo |
| 19:52.27 | endafy | ohio lol |
| 19:52.30 | illogical | wanna go nip on my bazooka? |
| 19:52.30 | tudon | watashi wa nihon go ga sukoshi wakarimasu |
| 19:52.31 | Nyle | ? |
| 19:52.37 | Nyle | ohio mustard |
| 19:52.40 | endafy | oi |
| 19:52.45 | Nyle | suzuki kawasaki |
| 19:52.48 | Nyle | toyota too |
| 19:52.49 | pinotree | #kde-chat please |
| 19:52.53 | endafy | watashi christopher |
| 19:53.09 | illogical | to the chatroom! |
| 19:53.13 | endafy | lol ok |
| 19:53.15 | endafy | ill stop |
| 19:53.18 | illogical | we c'n asl and everything. |
| 19:53.23 | Nyle | lol |
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| 19:54.03 | endafy | are there any single hot chicks in here if so im me ur asl |
| 19:54.06 | endafy | ;) |
| 19:54.08 | endafy | jk |
| 19:54.12 | illogical | raises a hnad |
| 19:54.33 | Nyle | I wonder where that newzeland woman that works in ibm is |
| 19:54.36 | Nyle | she likes my guitar music |
| 19:54.39 | Nyle | I forgot her name |
| 19:54.40 | tudon | Kdating ? |
| 19:54.42 | Nyle | shes pretty cool |
| 19:54.44 | tudon | lol |
| 19:54.52 | Nyle | shes is op here man shes nice too |
| 19:55.00 | endafy | Kdating should be a program have it sync with okcupid |
| 19:55.05 | endafy | :-P |
| 19:55.07 | tudon | nice |
| 19:55.09 | illogical | i lolled |
| 19:55.15 | annma | all ops are hot here |
| 19:55.20 | Nyle | annma, hahaha |
| 19:55.27 | illogical | damn straight. and annma's the hottest. |
| 19:55.29 | endafy | !kde |
| 19:55.38 | illogical | at least when she's around ;-P |
| 19:55.42 | annma | lol illogical |
| 19:55.44 | annma | ;) |
| 19:55.50 | Nyle | whats her name i forgot |
| 19:55.56 | Nyle | it wa a long nickname |
| 19:56.02 | Nyle | you know who imtalking about |
| 19:56.15 | Nyle | she got like a billion laptops and she works in ibm and in new zealand you know |
| 19:56.19 | Nyle | damit i can't reemmber |
| 19:56.20 | illogical | no we won't tell you her name so you can go interstalk her. |
| 19:56.25 | Nyle | lol |
| 19:56.34 | annma | yup but she is taking a break from KDE Nyle |
| 19:56.40 | Nyle | i figured as much |
| 19:56.47 | Nyle | have not seen her in a while |
| 19:56.51 | Nyle | I got new music for her :) |
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| 19:57.00 | endafy | interstalk lol psh if i were you and she were hot enough id goto new zealand and stalk her irl |
| 19:57.04 | Nyle | and i wonder i have not seen Renze either |
| 19:57.09 | illogical | lmao |
| 19:57.12 | Nyle | or my good friend qupada |
| 19:57.16 | annma | oh Renze, true |
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| 19:57.39 | Nyle | annma, did i tell you i moved to nyc |
| 19:57.48 | Nyle | annma, now i go to jackson hieghts and get the best pakistani food ever |
| 19:57.51 | annma | oh! do you like it? |
| 19:57.53 | Nyle | i don't have to bug my sister to cook for me |
| 19:57.59 | Nyle | annma, its alright |
| 19:57.59 | endafy | so nyle debian is actually worth learning over any other distro? |
| 19:58.00 | annma | :) |
| 19:58.03 | Nyle | I'm from a small country city |
| 19:58.08 | Nyle | not used to this life but its nnice |
| 19:58.14 | Nyle | endafy, yes imo |
| 19:58.17 | pinotree | what about #kde-chat? |
| 19:58.18 | annma | must be quite a change |
| 19:58.28 | illogical | heheh |
| 19:58.38 | Nyle | it was |
| 19:58.46 | Nyle | thankfully illogical was there to keep me company ;) |
| 19:58.57 | Nyle | but the he moved too... ok pino |
| 19:59.00 | Nyle | chatroom |
| 19:59.20 | endafy | i need it to work with my wifi card |
| 19:59.29 | Nyle | in debian |
| 19:59.31 | illogical | don't forget to asl. asl is key. |
| 19:59.37 | Nyle | everything works, but you have to make it work |
| 19:59.43 | Nyle | its not like ubuntu, nothing will be done for you |
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| 19:59.54 | Nyle | just beware, its a powerful distro |
| 20:00.02 | endafy | well in windows you have to make everything work too |
| 20:00.04 | Nyle | and you'll have to read a lot |
| 20:00.04 | qupada | Nyle: long time no see |
| 20:00.13 | Nyle | and #debian is notorious for making people read |
| 20:00.20 | Nyle | debian don't hold hands man :) |
| 20:00.24 | Nyle | qupada, ! hi buddy |
| 20:00.36 | endafy | i don't need hand holding really |
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| 20:00.46 | illogical | translation: #debian is full of asses who tell you to rtfm a lot. |
| 20:00.48 | Nyle | endafy, join #debian |
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| 20:01.03 | endafy | ok im there |
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| 20:01.33 | Half-Left | illogical: Most are on freenode :p |
| 20:01.53 | PhilRod | Half-Left: 'cept here - we're generally wonderful in #kde |
| 20:01.58 | Nyle | ~fable |
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| 20:02.05 | tudon | i thought rtfm was an ancient word from before ubuntu |
| 20:02.07 | Nyle | hmm is the bot not up |
| 20:02.09 | Half-Left | PhilRod: True |
| 20:02.10 | Nyle | ~hi |
| 20:02.11 | apt | hello, nyle |
| 20:02.26 | Nyle | ~listvals fable |
| 20:02.39 | Nyle | bah. outdated bot db |
| 20:02.48 | tudon | just ask yer dabian question in ubuntu channel without saying your on debian :P |
| 20:02.48 | illogical | apt is back? awsm! |
| 20:02.53 | Nyle | does riker ever sync with dpkg? |
| 20:03.01 | Nyle | I think so he doesn't |
| 20:03.04 | Nyle | he is a busy man |
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| 20:03.43 | tech9iner | wtf's our favorite way to voice chat via SIP or ??.. tween my opensuse 10.3 laptop & a microsux veesta laptop please mates? |
| 20:03.55 | Nyle | illogical, well you know I didn't know much about linux or debian when i first went there 7 years ago but I never had a problem |
| 20:03.56 | tech9iner | thanks.. |
| 20:04.30 | Nyle | I never had any issues with anyone tellnig me what to read and stuff.. hell if they had not told me what to read i probably would have been one of those in the dark ubuntu guys |
| 20:04.30 | Nyle | well ubuntu didn't exist then |
| 20:04.32 | Nyle | 'but still you get the point |
| 20:04.35 | illogical | tech9iner: SKY eeep? |
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| 20:04.43 | Nyle | skype almost robbed me |
| 20:04.55 | Nyle | so i posted on thier forums all pissed off, they gave me 8$ |
| 20:04.57 | Nyle | :D |
| 20:05.03 | Nyle | and my money back |
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| 20:05.16 | Nyle | now hunts for a good reliable voip provider |
| 20:05.24 | Nyle | or a very very inexpensive way to call Pakistan |
| 20:05.31 | Nyle | if anyone knows, pleae reply to m e thanks |
| 20:05.32 | tech9iner | gizmo Nyle? |
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| 20:05.37 | Nyle | gizmo? |
| 20:05.38 | Nyle | googles |
| 20:06.00 | Nyle | tech9iner, i need to call landlines in pakistan |
| 20:06.01 | tech9iner | ive used gizmo with my webdev'er in prague czech |
| 20:06.02 | Nyle | and cell phones |
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| 20:06.18 | Nyle | and i know when pots is involved there is always a charge |
| 20:06.21 | tech9iner | Nyle: ditto.. it similar to skype has landline callouts |
| 20:06.25 | Nyle | the question is, how much do these people charge |
| 20:06.50 | Half-Left | oh great now kderuntime throws up a error |
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| 20:07.46 | Half-Left | undefined reference to `Soprano::Index::IndexFilterModel::addIndexOnlyPredicate(QUrl const&)' |
| 20:07.50 | Half-Left | any idea? |
| 20:08.22 | Nyle | they charge the same |
| 20:08.30 | Nyle | 14c/min to pakistan landline from desktop |
| 20:10.58 | Half-Left | wonders if he will get to use KDE4.1beta tonight |
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| 20:12.00 | ruinevil | http://aoi.ruinevil.com/2008-05-19-161051_1280x800_scrot.png <-- Intel X3100 |
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| 20:13.15 | ruinevil | anyways... i need help with kde 4's opengl compositing on an archlinux system |
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| 20:17.03 | Half-Left | Is kdebase-runtime needed to use kde4.1? |
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| 20:21.34 | Goofankle | Why can't I run any KDE 3 programs? I can run the KDE 4 versions of Konsole and Konqueror, but I can't run the KDE 3 versions. I haven't installed anything KDE related since the last time I used them, and I tried to reinstall kdelibs and kdebase, but that didn't work. |
| 20:21.44 | Goofankle | I'm using openSUSE 10.3 by the way. |
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| 20:23.02 | Half-Left | Well you need to install the kde3 parts then |
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| 20:29.08 | sigma_ | why do nvidia graphics cards not work with open gl desktop effects? |
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| 20:30.05 | Goofankle | What do you mean, half-left? |
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| 20:30.55 | Goofankle | I'm using KDE 3 right now, but I have KDE 4 installed because I wanted to try it out earlier. Right now I can't use the KDE 3 versions of Konsole and Konqueror, or Amarok, but I can use the KDE 4 versions. |
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| 20:31.09 | Half-Left | Goofankle: You want run KDE3 stuff in KDE4 right? |
| 20:31.21 | ruinevil | what distro? |
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| 20:31.32 | Goofankle | No, I want to run KDE 3 stuff in KDE 3. |
| 20:31.41 | ruinevil | my distro runs them out of seperate /opt folders |
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| 20:31.56 | Goofankle | But its not working, so I have to use KDE 4 stuff right now in KDE 3. |
| 20:32.08 | Half-Left | blame opensuse :p |
| 20:32.21 | Goofankle | lol :( |
| 20:32.30 | ruinevil | since it probably installs both into /usr/bin/ |
| 20:32.35 | ruinevil | you can only install one at a time |
| 20:32.56 | ruinevil | since kde4's and kde3's konsole is called /usr/bin/konsole |
| 20:32.59 | ruinevil | >_> |
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| 20:33.41 | Goofankle | No I think opensuse installs KDE 3 somewhere in /opt |
| 20:33.57 | Half-Left | type whereis kde3 |
| 20:34.16 | ruinevil | does it source it during bootup? |
| 20:34.19 | sigma_ | boys see the light, switch to kubuntu, a bit slow on the 4.1 uptake but at least it works properly |
| 20:34.44 | Half-Left | sigma_: kde4.1 repos yet? |
| 20:35.12 | Goofankle | Yeah, it installs into /opt/kde3. And what do you mean does it source it during bootup? |
| 20:35.44 | Half-Left | Goofankle: What happens when you login kde3? |
| 20:36.13 | sigma_ | Half-Left: its available, not officially, im downloading it now |
| 20:36.37 | Half-Left | sigma_: In the ubuntu repos? |
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| 20:37.21 | cb400f | Goofankle: you should get kde3 apps in kde3.. if not you can always launch them by using the full path /opt/kde3/bin/<app> |
| 20:37.29 | adz21c | Half-Left: its in a ppa, but last i knew they are not complete yet |
| 20:37.38 | cb400f | .. or you could uninstlall the kde4.x apps you don't want to run |
| 20:37.59 | cb400f | kde4.x is installed in (/usr/bin/ |
| 20:38.03 | Half-Left | adz21c: Yer I was waiting for the beta packages building from source atm |
| 20:38.13 | sigma_ | Half-Left: yeah in the ppa, but most of the programs aren't there, will be shortly |
| 20:38.29 | cb400f | Goofankle: are you running 10.3 or 11.0 btw? |
| 20:38.34 | Half-Left | ok |
| 20:38.43 | Goofankle | I'm running 10.3 |
| 20:39.19 | Goofankle | And /opt/kde3/konsole works, but I still can't get konqueror to work. When I try to run it from Konsole, it just sits there any doesn't do anything. |
| 20:40.05 | cb400f | when running 'konqueror' or running '/opt/kde3/bin/konqueror' ? |
| 20:40.26 | sigma_ | dam so people actually use the opt folder |
| 20:40.49 | Goofankle | Yep, they both just sit there doing nothing. |
| 20:41.43 | cb400f | Goofankle: well.. that's hardly a kde4-related problem.. can you start konq as root or different user? |
| 20:42.42 | Goofankle | Yeah, I can run it as root. |
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| 20:42.58 | cb400f | so there's some user settings screwed up |
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| 20:43.17 | cb400f | .. prolly ~/.kde/share/config/konq<something> |
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| 20:44.35 | Goofankle | Does konq create these files when it starts if they aren't there? Meaning, can I delete them and have konq remake them, and hope everything will work? |
| 20:45.00 | cb400f | yup |
| 20:45.06 | cb400f | but it's generally safer to rename or move them |
| 20:45.17 | Goofankle | Ah ok, I'll just move them then. |
| 20:45.18 | cb400f | in case you have some important settings there |
| 20:45.47 | cb400f | it'll start with default settings |
| 20:46.21 | Goofankle | Well now when I run it, it says it cannot connect to the X server. |
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| 21:20.33 | ruinevil | http://aoi.ruinevil.com/2008-05-19-161051_1280x800_scrot.png <-- kwin4 with opengl |
| 21:20.39 | ruinevil | help me~ |
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| 21:26.34 | tinin | hi, how is the switch from compositing to normal kwin? someone told there was a keyboard combination like Ctrl+Alt+F12 or so |
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| 21:26.49 | tinin | I'd like to disable effects sometimes to play a game |
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| 21:27.22 | g2g591 | tinin: theres a plasmoid on kde-apps that lets you do that with just one click |
| 21:28.13 | tinin | I know, but I haven't been able to install it g2g591 |
| 21:28.28 | g2g591 | tinin: hmm, why not? |
| 21:28.57 | tinin | there's a kubuntu package that should work, but it may be compiled with kde4.0 and I have 4.1b |
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| 21:29.17 | tinin | should I compile it from source? |
| 21:29.27 | g2g591 | sure, if you have the -dev packages |
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| 21:29.53 | g2g591 | you might want to try the kubuntu package first though |
| 21:29.54 | tinin | and if so, how? ./configure, make, sudo checkinstall will suffice? |
| 21:30.08 | g2g591 | tinin: nope, kde 4 is cmake based |
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| 21:30.16 | tinin | g2g591 I tried that package yet but it says it uses libplasma1 |
| 21:30.49 | tinin | maybe I use libplasma2, I still don't know |
| 21:31.10 | tinin | g2g591 could oyu tell me how to compile it? |
| 21:31.30 | g2g591 | tinin: you would use cmake -i ./ , then make, and then sudo checkinstall |
| 21:31.51 | tinin | thanx, I will try |
| 21:32.02 | g2g591 | and yes, you do use libplasma2 |
| 21:32.04 | tinin | but I still havn't got the dev packages |
| 21:32.32 | g2g591 | tinin: i bet i could compile you up something, so you would only need to checkinstall |
| 21:32.34 | tinin | maybe plasma dev packages will be enough I guess |
| 21:33.23 | g2g591 | i got all the dev packages for everything on my system. |
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| 21:33.29 | tinin | thanx, g2g591, but I think I will be using more applets, so I should learn |
| 21:33.34 | tinin | haha |
| 21:33.37 | tinin | not me |
| 21:33.48 | g2g591 | tinin: i use Gentoo, so i have the headers for everything |
| 21:33.48 | tinin | I haven't got enough espace |
| 21:34.17 | tinin | and would compiling on gentoo then work on a kubuntu machine? |
| 21:34.48 | g2g591 | tinin: it would if you are on 64 bit |
| 21:34.52 | tinin | as for now kubuntu does not use kde4 as default, so it has diferent location for it |
| 21:34.56 | g2g591 | because im running 64 bit gentoo.. |
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| 21:35.25 | tinin | I even tried to just use aalien to convert some plasmoids :S |
| 21:35.32 | ruinevil | hey |
| 21:35.35 | tinin | but they did not work |
| 21:35.47 | ruinevil | do you have opengl kwin compositing working with an X3100? |
| 21:35.48 | tinin | I'll try, thanx g2g591 |
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| 21:53.15 | GraveDigger | is there a way to change the behaviour in kde4 apps regarding "special" keys? the menu key was usable for me in kde3 for example to pop up yakuake or amarok. but in kde4 they refuse to accept them as single "keys" ... (damn, dunno how to describe) |
| 21:53.38 | GraveDigger | how/where to change that behaviour? |
| 21:53.54 | GraveDigger | i want to use the menu key for such actions instead of the context menu |
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| 21:54.48 | maik | Hi there! Regarding kde4: How can I change the font-color for the taskbar? At the moment I see Black on almost black :) |
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| 21:58.23 | maik | I hope this is the right channel for this question..? |
| 21:59.04 | ruinevil | probably |
| 21:59.11 | ruinevil | but i dont find it in any options |
| 21:59.21 | ruinevil | i think its a gtk-qt-engine issue |
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| 22:05.14 | papillon81 | hi. what are the actual plans for kpowersave? according to the Application Cleanup page it is supposed to be based on the powersave daemon again, with solid as a layer in between. any news on that? |
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| 22:08.57 | Phlogi | why do my gtk apps not pick up the style set in .gtkrc-2.0 when I start them with krunner? From console works fine |
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| 22:09.51 | philsf | is there any hotkey to mark a thread as read in kmail? |
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| 22:15.39 | Jucato | philsf: you can set one in Settings -> Configure Shortcuts |
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| 22:15.59 | Jucato | (or I think it's Ctrl+Shift+R) |
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| 22:32.20 | seekthetruth | Is there is a way to use Konqueror as a file-browser for a secure http page? I am getting a listing of URLs to my files... |
| 22:33.14 | seekthetruth | But not a graphical read/write-interface sort of thing |
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| 22:35.22 | shadok | http doesn't support writing, webdav could be a solution |
| 22:35.35 | shadok | sftp _is_ the solution :) |
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| 22:43.03 | fareih | hi.. |
| 22:43.29 | g2g591 | hello, kde 4.1 will rock |
| 22:44.05 | fareih | oh ya.. |
| 22:44.17 | fareih | welcome kde 4.1 ^^ |
| 22:44.24 | fareih | be amazing... |
| 22:44.46 | g2g591 | it still won't have administrator mode in systemsettings though |
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| 22:47.10 | seekthetruth | shadok, Thanks - you're right, webdavs:// <secureurl>:port worked perfectly. Thanks! |
| 22:47.33 | shadok | seekthetruth: you're welcome :) |
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| 22:54.16 | hdevalence | How do I make Konqueror not use KGet |
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| 22:59.38 | hdevalence | nvm |
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| 23:01.37 | mr_clark | Is the print system in KDE4 different from 3? I'm trying to print a PDF from Okular and nothing prints. However, I can print from acrobat reader no problem. Plus from other apps. This is on OpenSUSE 10.3. |
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| 23:02.16 | pinotree | yes, a lot, and okular had defects in printing because of that |
| 23:02.28 | pinotree | is the okular maintainer |
| 23:03.14 | mr_clark | pinotree, Any fixes available yet/soon? |
| 23:03.41 | pinotree | i still didn't develop the ability to do miracles, sorry :/ |
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| 23:04.30 | pinotree | of course, i can do as much as possible, but printing in the condition okular is, it's not so easy (at least for pdf, ps, djvu documents) |
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| 23:04.57 | dbglt | morning :) |
| 23:05.14 | pinotree | back to your problem, would you want to explain it a bit futher? |
| 23:06.50 | MrGrim | I so love kde session saving |
| 23:07.11 | MrGrim | power goes out, apc kicks in, log out, 30 minutes later power comes on, boot up and right back where I left off |
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| 23:07.21 | MrGrim | even the song I was playing kicks back in :D |
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| 23:07.45 | DreadKnight | heya; i would like to know the name of the plasma theme that is default now in 4.1 |
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| 23:08.01 | pinotree | DreadKnight: #plasma |
| 23:08.12 | alesan | hi what is a simple application to record the microfone input? |
| 23:08.17 | DreadKnight | :-) |
| 23:11.02 | illogical | MrGrim: apc ? |
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| 23:13.59 | `jAguAr | how do i configure kde4 to boot properly? |
| 23:15.12 | `jAguAr | hello? is anyone in here? |
| 23:15.31 | hagabaka | ._. kmail asks me every time I middle click whether I want to paste text or include it as attachment |
| 23:16.59 | MrGrim | illogical: they make battery backups |
| 23:17.23 | MrGrim | illogical: everything from your extremely basic to 24 outlet 4 hour ones with a web interface |
| 23:18.39 | `jAguAr | MrGrim, how do i configure kde4 to boot properly? |
| 23:19.03 | MrGrim | not sure what you mean |
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| 23:20.35 | `jAguAr | i mean that i have to type in "xinit" from the command line when i turn the computer on, then it opens up a small terminal in the upper left corner of the window, where i type in "startkde" and the only thing that happens from there is that pidgin starts up and there is a title bar around the window with the terminal in it |
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| 23:21.47 | `jAguAr | MrGrim, i don't even get a Kmenu at the bottom of the screen :( |
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| 23:23.15 | g2g591 | `jAguAr: sounds like serious trouble, i bet your distro could help and advise you further |
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| 23:23.36 | `jAguAr | ok, thanx |
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| 23:25.10 | Chicago | I use ksnapshot regularly. Is there a way to scroll a window so that the capture grabs an entire website from top to bottom? |
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| 23:28.14 | MrGrim | Chicago: fraid not, you might be interested in khtml2png tho |
| 23:28.17 | MrGrim | not th ebest solution |
| 23:28.20 | MrGrim | but it works |
| 23:29.06 | MrGrim | I've been using it to grab website thumbnail shots to be served via a cgi script |
| 23:29.19 | Chicago | MrGrim: Also, if I change my config, I should be able to make a virtual window big enough for me to open the whole webpage from top to bottom. |
| 23:29.56 | MrGrim | khtml2png is for kde3 tho |
| 23:29.57 | Chicago | MrGrim: ksnapshot would still work for me without having to change ksnapshot in anyway. |
| 23:30.19 | Chicago | MrGrim: I am on KDE 3.5 (gentoo-stable). |
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| 23:31.59 | Chicago | Does khtml2png depend on Konquer? |
| 23:32.32 | MrGrim | no |
| 23:32.58 | MrGrim | just kdelibs |
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| 23:41.02 | g2g591 | kdelibs which has a runtime dependancy for some of its code on Konqueror |
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| 23:44.18 | `jAguAr | how do i configure kde4 to start up properly, i can't even get a kmenu when i boot my machine now :( |
| 23:44.49 | DreadKnight | `jAguAr: you know you can set up the panel manually? :P |
| 23:44.51 | bren | hi guys, I was hoping someone could suggest a good (+free) media player for linux? |
| 23:44.58 | g2g591 | bren: amarok is nice |
| 23:45.04 | Giskard_Reventlo | How do I change the run menu text color/background in KDE? I can;t seem to find it in the "colors" section of kcontrol? |
| 23:45.13 | DreadKnight | bren: audio and/or video? |
| 23:45.14 | `jAguAr | DreadKnight, how? when i can't even get any window to open up? |
| 23:45.29 | DreadKnight | `jAguAr: what version do you have? |
| 23:45.31 | dbglt | does anyone here use yakuake? Trying to setup a global shortcut for it. Failing! |
| 23:45.32 | bren | preferably both - at the moment I'm looking for video playback though |
| 23:45.47 | `jAguAr | DreadKnight i just upgraded to kde4 |
| 23:45.52 | bren | I've got a barebones linux system at the moment so looking to add on a few bits |
| 23:46.06 | DreadKnight | bren: dragonplayer, kaffeine, vlc, mplayer and derivates.. |
| 23:46.20 | g2g591 | `jAguAr: what distrobution ? |
| 23:46.22 | bren | which one would you recomment dreadknight? |
| 23:46.36 | `jAguAr | g2g591 ubuntu 8.01 |
| 23:47.05 | g2g591 | `jAguAr: ah, they have always had wierd problems with kde 4. i think you should ask in #kubuntu |
| 23:47.14 | DreadKnight | bren: in that order, anyway dragonplayer a bit early in development, but nice and simple; personal taste, you may or may not like it :-) |
| 23:47.27 | bren | cheers dude - i appreciate the advice |
| 23:47.32 | g2g591 | bren: dragonplayer is 4.x only btw |
| 23:47.38 | g2g591 | kde 4.x |
| 23:47.40 | `jAguAr | g2g591: ok, thanx |
| 23:47.48 | DreadKnight | `jAguAr: can you fire up a terminal? alt + f2? perhaps katapult? |
| 23:47.50 | Giskard_Reventlo | How do I change the run menu text color/background in KDE? I can't seem to find it in the "colors" section of kcontrol? ( Basically I mean the text color here:http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/pic.jpg |
| 23:48.26 | DreadKnight | bren: g2g591: you should have dragonplayer in ubuntu 8.04 and derivates repository |
| 23:49.09 | g2g591 | DreadKnight: so? it still requires kdelibs from kde 4. and i don't even use ubuntu/family |
| 23:49.09 | bren | ah right - I'm running sabayon at the mo - I'll have a look at what's available |
| 23:50.03 | g2g591 | bren: dragonplayer is hardmasked (but available) in Gentoo's repo (sabayon's parent distro) |
| 23:50.11 | DreadKnight | :-) |
| 23:51.27 | bren | thanks guys - I've found it now and am installing |
| 23:52.02 | g2g591 | bren: what?! kde 4.x ISNT hard masked in sabyon? strange |
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| 23:53.55 | wildnux | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.57 | g2g591 | wildnux: krunner |
| 23:55.06 | wildnux | thank you |
| 23:55.15 | wildnux | g2g591: thanks |
| 23:55.27 | g2g591 | though why you need a run dialog when you have a command line is beyond me |
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| 23:55.42 | dbglt | hrmm |
| 23:56.35 | wildnux | g2g591: :) to set it in command0 in compiz coz it is not running the dialog while i press Alt+F2,,,,,,,,, but thank you now its done.....:) |
| 23:56.38 | Goofankle | Whenever I try to run Konqueror, it says it cannot connect to the X server. How can I fix this? I'm using opensuse 10.3, and KDE 3.5 by the way. |
| 23:56.50 | g2g591 | ah |
| 23:57.19 | g2g591 | Goofankle: how are you trying to run konqueror? from kmenu, from run dialog or how? |
| 23:57.31 | Goofankle | from Konsole |
| 23:57.50 | g2g591 | Goofankle: does echo $DISPLAY output anything? |
| 23:58.26 | wildnux | Goofankle: r u trying to run it as a root? |
| 23:58.27 | Goofankle | just a blank line |
| 23:58.32 | Goofankle | And no, i'm not running as root |
| 23:58.42 | g2g591 | Goofankle: try export DISPLAY=":0" , then try running it |
| 23:58.57 | Goofankle | kwrite says the same thing when I try to start it from Konsole, but when I try starting it from Alt+F2, it works fine. |
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