| 00:00.36 | daskReech | and .sh filse are associated with wine for some reason |
| 00:00.42 | EvanR | alright guys, i would consider myself a linux guru. and whenever i need to get my pc connected to the network i immediately just perform the required modprobe / ifconfig / ip link / dhcpcd / dhclient whatever to set it up. however i noticed that i dont have a real grasp of any of the distros (various ways) networking bootscripts. what i am wondering is there are gui network configurator that normal people can use? |
| 00:01.14 | EvanR | network manager is distro specific... |
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| 00:01.24 | daskReech | It is? |
| 00:01.35 | EvanR | it relies on the mentioned network scripts, not on the low level commands |
| 00:01.45 | EvanR | and each distro does it differently |
| 00:02.02 | daskReech | EvanR: I'm confused :) You asked about the various ways distros do things then complain about the distro specifc ways ? |
| 00:02.26 | EvanR | wondering if for example KDE has/will have a cross platform network configurator |
| 00:02.44 | daskReech | Well Solid should make it abstracted |
| 00:02.52 | EvanR | it uses ip/ifconfig/route/dhcp/iwtools... |
| 00:02.57 | EvanR | which are available on all distros |
| 00:03.11 | EvanR | what is Solid |
| 00:03.14 | Jucato | daskReech: System Settings -> Advanced -> File Associations |
| 00:03.26 | Jucato | EvanR: http://solid.kde.org |
| 00:03.48 | EvanR | yet another hardware abstraction layer? :) |
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| 00:04.08 | Jucato | and? |
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| 00:04.18 | EvanR | oh... it is? |
| 00:04.40 | Jucato | if you see it that way |
| 00:05.52 | EvanR | well there is hal |
| 00:05.54 | EvanR | and the proc file system |
| 00:06.53 | EvanR | but i guess that stuff is linux specific |
| 00:07.24 | EvanR | it doesnt really address networking |
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| 00:07.40 | Jucato | really? |
| 00:08.15 | daskReech | Jucato: I know. Should I associate them with konsole? |
| 00:08.34 | daskReech | Solid abstracts away hal :) |
| 00:08.55 | bittin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.57 | daskReech | and bluetooth and networking |
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| 00:09.18 | EvanR | uhm...... |
| 00:10.12 | EvanR | the user needs a checkbox that says dhcp, or a textbox for a static ip, assuming his netcard drivers are working. and if wireless needs a list of the networks shown in iwlist scanning |
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| 00:10.27 | Jucato | daskReech: I associate it with kwrite. but if it's executable, it should still run |
| 00:10.29 | EvanR | with the checkbox |
| 00:11.43 | Jucato | here's an idea: why not try to check first what solid does and how it does it? There's a #solid channel but not sure if they are awake at the moment |
| 00:12.09 | EvanR | that would have to be necessary, since the website has no actual information on it |
| 00:12.21 | EvanR | its more of a hype generator |
| 00:12.30 | Jucato | fwiw, there's a "Network Management Backend" section in Solid module |
| 00:12.37 | Jucato | hahah! |
| 00:12.55 | Jucato | solid has been one of the silent workers in KDE 4 |
| 00:13.11 | EvanR | interesting |
| 00:13.54 | Jucato | no hype around it at all (unlike Phonon), and yet it has been working silently and without problems. |
| 00:14.11 | EvanR | speaking of websites with no information, i am interested in learning about how to customize kde (3) to do interesting stuff. but i cant seem to find any overview of kde's internals |
| 00:14.26 | EvanR | for example how to add a new menu option to the konqueror/kdesktop right click menu |
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| 00:15.13 | EvanR | the distro slax does things like that, and has kommander scripts too.. |
| 00:15.18 | Jucato | I don't think the kdesktop context menu is changeable the way konqueror's is (servicemenus) |
| 00:15.31 | EvanR | well right clicking on files |
| 00:15.31 | Jucato | yeah, you'll have to do it through some code |
| 00:15.49 | EvanR | yes code / script... just cant seem to find a manual |
| 00:15.50 | Jucato | right-click on files -> Servicemenus |
| 00:16.02 | Jucato | http://techbase.kde.org |
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| 00:17.00 | EvanR | there has to be some middle ground between changing the actual c++ code of kde projects, and point-clicking in a dialog |
| 00:17.20 | EvanR | i know about the .desktop files, they are more than just menu items :) |
| 00:17.56 | Jucato | have fun researching |
| 00:19.05 | EvanR | does kde4 have a replacement for arts? |
| 00:19.21 | Jucato | Phonon |
| 00:19.41 | Jucato | (not really a "replacement" in the exact sense that it is not exactly like aRts) |
| 00:20.14 | Jucato | http://techbase.kde.org http://phonon.kde.org (old, but still has relevant info) #phonon (I think) |
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| 00:27.10 | EvanR | so. i could write such a nifty networking app as a control center module and then it would just take a .desktop file to make it show up... :) |
| 00:27.28 | EvanR | dunno how much that would matter since kde3 is gonna be deprecated... |
| 00:27.33 | EvanR | or already is |
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| 00:44.30 | xjunior | hi, in kde 4.0.4, my taskbar is transparent in the borders, but have a black and large targe in the center. is it a bug or anything like? |
| 00:44.35 | xjunior | do you know about this Jucato? |
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| 00:48.29 | Jucato | no |
| 00:50.40 | poopix | Does anyone else have a problem of KDE 4.0.4 not showing a screen savor? I just get this weird blacked out look, and the screen never turns off. |
| 00:50.44 | poopix | Is there anyway to fix this? |
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| 01:00.32 | illogical | has anyone tried compiling strigi lately? |
| 01:00.53 | illogical | strigi from kdesvn that is. |
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| 01:07.30 | EvanR | wondering about this... i have kdm set up with a wallpaper, but when it starts the background is that awful X11 grey, then the dialog appears, then the background appears. anyone know how to fix that |
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| 01:18.32 | poopix | How do I install a screen savor in KDE 4? |
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| 02:45.05 | niskel | Was meanwhile support removed from Kopete 4? |
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| 02:46.04 | RingtailedFox | hmm? |
| 02:46.14 | RingtailedFox | is meanwhile a chat protocol? |
| 02:46.50 | flaccid | yeah its lotus sametime |
| 02:47.46 | RingtailedFox | ok |
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| 02:48.15 | Jucato | /usr/src/kdenetwork-svn/kopete/protocols: Meanwhile protocol has been disabled because it is not ported to KDE4 yet. |
| 02:48.40 | Jucato | #kopete for more information |
| 02:49.22 | niskel | Jucato: thanks |
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| 02:57.23 | daskReech | niskel: For Kopete? |
| 02:57.42 | daskReech | MOst stuff was "removed" for KDE4 |
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| 02:58.21 | daskReech | Kopete was very late in the game to make a port for KDE4 and if someone didn't stand up instantly to offer to port something it was removed to be able to make the ship date |
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| 03:01.09 | Jucato | that line I pasted from svn.. so it still won't be there for 4.1 |
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| 03:12.10 | daskReech | Yeah basically they still need people to stand up and help. |
| 03:12.16 | daskReech | help KOPETE!!! |
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| 03:12.57 | flaccid | im still learning qtdev :( |
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| 03:14.45 | RingtailedFox | dask: try #kopete |
| 03:14.45 | daskReech | fully supports flaccid |
| 03:14.54 | daskReech | RingtailedFox: :-) |
| 03:15.29 | Jucato | RingtailedFox: he's not asking for help on using Kopete... he's soliciting help *for* Kopete :) |
| 03:15.53 | flaccid | hehe |
| 03:16.00 | Jucato | he's a Kopete pimp if there ever was one :) |
| 03:16.12 | RingtailedFox | okay o.o |
| 03:16.22 | RingtailedFox | well, i use kopete now and then.. |
| 03:17.53 | flaccid | i solicited a feature addition of auto-resize contact list window which charles did |
| 03:18.12 | flaccid | quite proud of that even though i only requested it :p |
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| 03:25.45 | blauzahl- | notes that they have bugs in bugzilla, and you could always join bugsquad and learn to triage bugs. |
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| 03:39.30 | jayjay | does kopete 4.0.3 work for connecting to google talk? I can't get it working. tried several guides |
| 03:40.07 | daskReech | Jucato: And on that note I'm off to spiffy up he JJ page |
| 03:40.09 | daskReech | the |
| 03:40.36 | jayjay | i mean kopete version .50.1 |
| 03:41.08 | daskReech | jayjay: yes |
| 03:42.02 | jayjay | daskReech: did you do anything different from google's directions? i set it up to connect via SSL to talk.google.com port 5223 |
| 03:42.34 | jayjay | daskReech: i did the jabber protocol, jabber id is my gmail address |
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| 03:50.40 | daskReech | jayjay: On the connection tab in the Jabber account did you check the top three boxes? |
| 03:51.21 | jayjay | daskReech: yes.. |
| 03:51.27 | daskReech | jayjay: and the jabberID is the full address? (@gmail.com)? |
| 03:51.37 | jayjay | daskReech: yes.. full address is there |
| 03:51.55 | daskReech | jayjay: try disconnect and reconnect |
| 03:52.12 | daskReech | I normally get a button asking to confirm the connect |
| 03:52.17 | daskReech | Since it' SSL |
| 03:52.38 | jayjay | daskReech: thank you btw. I don't see a 'disconnect' or 'reconnect' button.. but if I quit and restart it it tries |
| 03:53.05 | jayjay | daskReech: the status shows in the configure screen to the right of my acct.. |
| 03:53.34 | daskReech | Jucato: You don't have to |
| 03:53.41 | daskReech | jayjay: You don't have to |
| 03:53.46 | daskReech | Jucato: Sorry force of ahbit |
| 03:53.50 | jayjay | daskReech: it will say 'connecting' when i first start Kopete, but then time out and go offline |
| 03:54.04 | daskReech | jayjay: the Litte man in the right corner |
| 03:54.24 | daskReech | click it and it will open a box with all your accounts. Yo ucan right click and come off or on as needed |
| 03:54.25 | jayjay | daskReech: what little man? |
| 03:54.38 | daskReech | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.13 | daskReech | jayjay: On the kopete buddy list do you see a Yellow pad in the bottom left corner? |
| 03:55.58 | jayjay | daskReech: no.. |
| 03:56.16 | jayjay | pure blank white area in the main kopete window |
| 03:58.12 | daskReech | *blinks* |
| 03:58.27 | daskReech | What version of kopete? |
| 03:58.27 | jayjay | daskReech: i'm getting a screenshot for you |
| 03:58.50 | jayjay | daskReech: 0.50.1 for KDE 4.0.3 |
| 03:58.54 | jayjay | fedora 9 |
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| 04:00.24 | jayjay | daskReech: http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kopetemainwindowtv7.png |
| 04:01.28 | jayjay | daskReech: if that link doesn't work try this one http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/923/kopetemainwindowtv7.png |
| 04:02.04 | daskReech | jayjay: ahhm is Gmail the only account? |
| 04:02.16 | jayjay | daskReech: yes |
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| 04:02.42 | daskReech | and you have it under an identity ? |
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| 04:03.13 | jayjay | daskReech: it shows under the default identity |
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| 04:05.28 | jayjay | daskReech: i just added a yahoo account and that seems to work |
| 04:05.38 | jayjay | daskReech: but google talk is what i need :) |
| 04:05.55 | daskReech | jayjay: Hmm Ok |
| 04:05.59 | daskReech | try and remove it |
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| 04:06.27 | daskReech | add in your account with the gmail |
| 04:06.33 | daskReech | Do you mind saving your password? |
| 04:07.00 | jayjay | daskReech: i tried that.. it seems to save but no difference.. i'l delete it and re add the gtalk acct |
| 04:07.29 | daskReech | on teh connection tab check the top three checkboxes. One should be checked already |
| 04:07.37 | daskReech | teh server is talk.google.com |
| 04:07.45 | daskReech | I think the port should be set already |
| 04:08.02 | jayjay | daskReech: when i delete the gtalk account, i get an error message 'please connect to jaber' but i'm not connected obviously |
| 04:08.20 | jayjay | daskReech: then when i re-launch Kopete i get the KDE crash handler :) |
| 04:08.38 | jayjay | daskReech: this time it did launch |
| 04:09.59 | daskReech | okok |
| 04:10.00 | jayjay | do I need to register a new jabber account? |
| 04:11.20 | jayjay | daskReech: ok I added the gmail account again and it made no difference |
| 04:13.01 | daskReech | jayjay: The yahoo still there ? |
| 04:13.16 | jayjay | daskReech: i deleted that one too.. was getting spam LOL |
| 04:14.28 | daskReech | haha :) |
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| 04:15.17 | daskReech | jayjay: are you using Kwallet? |
| 04:15.35 | jayjay | daskReech: yes |
| 04:16.27 | daskReech | hmmm |
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| 04:17.12 | jayjay | off of my Commodore Amiga 500 :) not |
| 04:17.43 | keisangi | hi there.. how can i desactivate one desktop ? i use a lapptop with an external monitor connected.. and i end up with two desktop displayed .. |
| 04:18.35 | keisangi | one is 1024x768 (my laptop screen ..the one i want to desactivate) and the wider 1280x1024 screen which is the external monitor resolution |
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| 04:24.18 | drantin | keisangi: if you use nvidia, i believe there's an option in nvidia-settings to change that, other than that you'd probably need to do something with your xorg.conf file |
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| 04:26.09 | keisangi | drantin, unfortunatly i don't have an nvidia chip in this laptop..i have an i945gm intel instead |
| 04:26.47 | daskReech | jayjay: 5223 port ? |
| 04:27.31 | jayjay | daskReech: yes.. |
| 04:27.39 | jayjay | daskReech: i have a partial fix - coke :) |
| 04:28.14 | keisangi | i tryed to xkill on the 1024x768 desktop .. it was a bad idea ;) |
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| 04:31.59 | drantin | keisangi: you could try looking into krandr (KDE gui) or xrandr (command line tool) |
| 04:32.58 | drantin | http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html |
| 04:32.59 | jayjay | daskReech: thanks for trying and your help |
| 04:33.31 | keisangi | drantin, i tryed xrandr --output LVDS --off to kill my laptop monitor.. i don't care while i'm using the external monitor ... but the 1024x768 plasma desktop screen is still displayed inside my wider 1280x1024 screen |
| 04:33.42 | daskReech | jayjay: Yeah I'm Pretty confused |
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| 04:35.34 | jayjay | daskReech: no problem. I can use the google talk popup in the browser.. not the same though :) |
| 04:35.46 | daskReech | jayjay: #fedora-kde please |
| 04:36.08 | jayjay | daskReech: ty |
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| 04:37.00 | keisangi | if someone said something to me i wasn't able to see it.. |
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| 05:00.56 | keisangi | how can i desactivate the bouncing cursor ? |
| 05:04.22 | Jucato | keisangi: KDE 3: KControl -> Apperance & Themes -> Launch Feedback; KDE 4: System Settings -> Desktop -> Launch Feedback |
| 05:04.59 | keisangi | Jucato, aah thanks great :) |
| 05:06.16 | Doctor_Nick | does anyone here have qt4.4 installed? |
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| 05:09.54 | Doctor_Nick | anyone? |
| 05:10.32 | daskReech | Doctor_Nick: Lets assume yes and move on to your next point |
| 05:13.14 | Doctor_Nick | daskReech: I need someone to compile QGTKStyle for me |
| 05:13.22 | Doctor_Nick | found here: http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Styles/GtkStyle |
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| 05:18.36 | Level1Tech | any bitches in here |
| 05:19.08 | Level1Tech | ok then...any boi's? |
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| 05:19.45 | daskReech | balls > brains |
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| 05:34.04 | bloodboy | http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/883/av1894tg1.gif |
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| 05:37.11 | daskReech | prods Jucato |
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| 05:40.30 | Jucato | bloodboy: don't try to pull that stunt again |
| 05:41.01 | drantin | what stunt is it goatse? (haven't checked...) |
| 05:41.37 | Jucato | don't mind it. just an immature gif about "your mom" |
| 05:41.58 | Jucato | (slightly NSFW even if it's just stick figures) |
| 05:42.33 | Shadow_mil | Jucato, your mom is so fat, she uses gnome. |
| 05:42.46 | Jucato | Shadow_mil: are you challenging me? |
| 05:42.49 | Shadow_mil | lol |
| 05:43.06 | Jucato | because it isn't funny |
| 05:43.20 | Shadow_mil | yes it is |
| 05:43.30 | Shadow_mil | you just don't want to admit it |
| 05:43.55 | Jucato | it isn't. so just drop it |
| 05:44.14 | Q-collective | pokes Jucato in the eye |
| 05:44.42 | Jucato | ow? |
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| 05:58.07 | Ulv | question? |
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| 05:59.31 | Ulv | Does anyone know how to get the speaker icon back on the taskbar? |
| 05:59.46 | daskReech | kmix |
| 05:59.48 | Jucato | Ulv: run KMix |
| 06:00.08 | Ulv | Tried that but no result. |
| 06:00.16 | Jucato | K Menu -> Multimedia -> KMix (Sound Mixer) |
| 06:00.25 | Ulv | yes |
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| 06:14.41 | Ulv | Jucato, Cleared the checkmarks on configure KMix and rechecked but the speaker icon still doesn't show. |
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| 06:15.13 | Jucato | KDE 3? |
| 06:16.17 | Ulv | where can I check the version? |
| 06:16.48 | thiago_home | you should know which KDE you have. |
| 06:16.58 | thiago_home | but, if you don't, it's KDE 3 |
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| 06:17.43 | Jucato | would have guessed if it were KDE 4, the culprit may be a funky system tray widget... |
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| 06:32.32 | root__ | hi |
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| 06:34.10 | Ulv | jucato, it's 3.5.9-5 |
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| 06:34.58 | ttt | hi all |
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| 06:51.35 | |T_29| | hi all |
| 06:51.37 | Dumble | hello ! |
| 06:52.16 | |T_29| | hey guys any one using fedora 8 |
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| 06:58.40 | Rasi | hey |
| 06:58.56 | Rasi | did anything change according d-bus in the last week? |
| 06:59.04 | annma | I don't think so |
| 06:59.06 | Rasi | 4.0.74 is suddenly starting up normal for me |
| 06:59.09 | annma | you mean in trunk? |
| 06:59.11 | Rasi | no more delays |
| 06:59.22 | annma | kded4 maybe |
| 07:00.14 | Rasi | also my stuttering selection box in dolphin has become _much_ better |
| 07:01.06 | annma | cool |
| 07:01.16 | annma | update again and most applets are fixed |
| 07:01.20 | keisangi | is there's a kde-packagekit available ? |
| 07:01.57 | Rasi | now if i just could get Konsole to a) use a secondary buffer (for screen) and b) not handle ctrl-s and ctrl-q as suspend and resume |
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| 07:02.21 | annma | try also latest |
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| 07:02.29 | annma | I think he fixed some shortcuts |
| 07:02.33 | Rasi | annma: "most applets are fixed" - does this include auto-resizing of applets in panel-applet? |
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| 07:02.58 | annma | auto-resizing? |
| 07:03.10 | annma | that includes bad crashes on remove each applet for a start |
| 07:03.17 | Rasi | well.. pager and clock dont resize, if i set it to something smaller than "normal" |
| 07:03.25 | annma | bah |
| 07:03.39 | annma | I am concentrating on defaults first |
| 07:03.45 | Rasi | hehe |
| 07:03.54 | |T_29| | hi guys anyone can help me to configure new server on irc ? |
| 07:04.02 | annma | one has to have priorities ;) |
| 07:04.20 | daskReech | :-) |
| 07:04.22 | annma | right now I am testing the build Rasi |
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| 07:04.34 | Rasi | |T_29|: hardly the right channel for this |
| 07:04.38 | annma | before beta 1 |
| 07:04.49 | Rasi | |T_29|: apart from that, there are several irc daemons available |
| 07:05.26 | |T_29| | trying to configure new one on this but it can not connect |
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| 07:05.49 | Rasi | annma: have to say i am very positive.. for me kde4 always ran quite slow, but thise last week the changes really became noticable |
| 07:06.32 | annma | :) |
| 07:06.34 | Rasi | |T_29|: make sure you have YOURIRCDAEMON = ALLOWED_IP in /etc/hosts.allow |
| 07:07.02 | daskReech | hugs annmom |
| 07:07.03 | |T_29| | Rasi , how to do that ! i am new in this |
| 07:07.05 | Jucato | is afraid KDE 4 might always be slow for him :( |
| 07:07.11 | Jucato | daskReech: hey!! that's my line!! |
| 07:07.17 | Jucato | that's patented |
| 07:07.20 | annma | hey daskReech :) |
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| 07:08.02 | Rasi | Jucato: probably will always be a tint slower than 3.x because of the heavy svg usage |
| 07:08.09 | Rasi | but things are progressing |
| 07:08.22 | Rasi | and on the other hand qt4 is much faster again |
| 07:08.22 | Jucato | SVG usage? |
| 07:08.33 | Jucato | no no.. my problem is from my video card |
| 07:08.39 | lemma-laptop | dito :( |
| 07:08.52 | Jucato | legacy nvidia... |
| 07:08.55 | lemma-laptop | I hope xorg 7.4 comes along soon |
| 07:08.56 | annma | and what mekes it slow then? |
| 07:09.06 | annma | if not SVG? |
| 07:09.19 | Jucato | annma: <Jucato> legacy nvidia... |
| 07:09.22 | lemma-laptop | annma, I do have some bugs as well eg. with displaying argb visuals |
| 07:09.23 | Jucato | video card driver :( |
| 07:09.26 | Rasi | Jucato: i am using a really old ati with xorg drivers |
| 07:09.29 | lemma-laptop | even with an nv 8600 |
| 07:09.31 | Rasi | that should be even worse :P |
| 07:09.38 | Jucato | Rasi: in this case, no |
| 07:09.40 | annma | Jucato: but isn't everything slow then? like any game? |
| 07:09.53 | annma | I mean: is it KDE 4 and not KDE 3? |
| 07:10.05 | Jucato | annma: I feel it in KDE 4 |
| 07:10.12 | Jucato | iirc it was the Nvidia-Qt4 bug thingy |
| 07:10.18 | annma | KDE 4 runs fine on my 5 years old PC |
| 07:10.26 | Jucato | something aseigo blogged about before |
| 07:10.30 | Jucato | what video card? |
| 07:10.31 | Rasi | Jucato: why not use the nv driver? |
| 07:10.37 | annma | Intel |
| 07:10.46 | annma | and 512 RAM only |
| 07:10.51 | Jucato | annma: nvidia here.. it's particular to nvidia |
| 07:10.55 | Rasi | annma: seen aarons blog about possible intel speedup? |
| 07:11.08 | Jucato | annma: KDE 4 runs nicely on my laptop with Intel IGP and 512MB RAM :P |
| 07:11.11 | annma | Rasi: it's the kids machine so I only use it to test |
| 07:11.15 | lemma-laptop | Jucato: did you try if running it in Xephyr is faster than native? because for me it is :) |
| 07:11.28 | Jucato | which is ironic since my desktop is 1GB RAM and NVIDIA AGP:) |
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| 07:11.53 | Jucato | there's half a solution: don't use KWin effects.. but I WANT to :( |
| 07:12.03 | Rasi | hah |
| 07:12.06 | Jucato | oh, and even w/o kwin effets, the argb visuals bug still bites me |
| 07:12.08 | Rasi | overrated :P |
| 07:12.11 | Jucato | not really |
| 07:12.18 | Rasi | Jucato: do you play games? |
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| 07:12.47 | Jucato | I use desktop grid and present window effects |
| 07:12.56 | Jucato | great for productivity and fanciness combined |
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| 07:13.14 | Jucato | Rasi: no. not now... I can barely keep up with what I *should* be doing |
| 07:13.16 | flaccid | desktop grid? |
| 07:13.16 | |T_29| | hey guys how to configure irc server to allow it from host |
| 07:13.27 | Rasi | Jucato: in that case i suggest to try the nv driver |
| 07:13.31 | Rasi | just to see how it works out |
| 07:13.45 | lemma-laptop | |T_29|: you're not likely to get an answer in this channel |
| 07:13.45 | Rasi | of course it also comes without 3d... |
| 07:13.58 | Jucato | <Jucato> there's half a solution: don't use KWin effects.. but I WANT to :( |
| 07:14.11 | Rasi | |T_29|: apart from that i told you to play with hosts.allow |
| 07:14.13 | Jucato | well unless Mesa can handle it as well as it can on my laptop |
| 07:14.14 | Rasi | google for that file |
| 07:14.16 | Rasi | its not hard |
| 07:14.35 | Jucato | |T_29|: you might want to ask in your distro's channel (#fedora if I'm not mistaken) |
| 07:14.45 | Rasi | also google for documentation for that ircd |
| 07:15.28 | Jucato | (ironically, X crashes on a part of the nvidia site when kwin effects are enabled... konspiracies...) |
| 07:15.50 | Rasi | hah.. love the K part :P |
| 07:16.26 | Jucato | oh filelight makes X crash too.. unfortunately I use that app a lot... |
| 07:16.40 | Jucato | (so I have to turn effects on and off) |
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| 07:17.14 | Rasi | hmm |
| 07:17.22 | Rasi | i havent tried effects with newest version |
| 07:17.25 | Rasi | lets test |
| 07:17.32 | Rasi | well "newest" |
| 07:17.34 | Rasi | from saturday |
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| 07:17.40 | Rasi | so before the big bug-hunting |
| 07:18.14 | Jucato | sobs |
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| 07:18.58 | Jucato | what hurts the most is that, while I'm very much willing to upgrade my video card, it seems that I can't without upgrading my motherboard... and my processor as well. :/ |
| 07:19.13 | Jucato | oh well.. back to the drawing board... |
| 07:19.43 | Jucato | fears growing up like those anti-fancy/GUI/DE people using twm or console 24/7.... :) |
| 07:19.49 | flaccid | yeah. you gotta spend a few more dollars and go new m/b with pci-x :p |
| 07:19.53 | flaccid | haha |
| 07:20.30 | Jucato | mobo + core duo (no, not core 2 duo) + graphics card = homeless |
| 07:20.37 | Jucato | </offtopic> |
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| 07:21.03 | flaccid | ooooh. |
| 07:21.10 | Jucato | just hopes annma will raise his allowance :) |
| 07:21.10 | jayjay | hi. how can I set windows to not have a taskbar entry? |
| 07:21.13 | Rasi | hmm |
| 07:21.16 | jayjay | for kde4 |
| 07:21.22 | Rasi | nah.. 3d lags |
| 07:21.27 | Rasi | not really nice :P |
| 07:21.45 | |T_29| | guys how to regester my nick name ? |
| 07:21.56 | jayjay | I don't see a way in the 'window specific' panel to set a window to not show on the bar |
| 07:21.58 | flaccid | !register | |T_29| |
| 07:22.02 | Jucato | jayjay: right-click on the title bar -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings -> Preferences tab |
| 07:22.07 | Rasi | jayjay: rightclick on titlebar, advanced... OH |
| 07:22.11 | Jucato | flaccid: wrong channel |
| 07:22.14 | Jucato | Rasi: :P |
| 07:22.18 | flaccid | yes i noticed Jucato |
| 07:22.28 | flaccid | |T_29|: /msg nickserv help register |
| 07:22.42 | flaccid | ffs |
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| 07:23.13 | jayjay | Jucato and rasi thank you but I don't see an option in there |
| 07:23.50 | Rasi | there is an "skip taskbar" setting |
| 07:23.54 | Jucato | jayjay: [ ] Skip Taskbar - [ Do not Affect v ] [ ] |
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| 07:24.23 | Jucato | check [ ] Skip Taskbar, set the pull down menu to "Force", check the box to the rigth |
| 07:24.26 | Jucato | right* |
| 07:24.47 | jayjay | ahh right I found it thank you got it |
| 07:24.55 | jayjay | well, i haven't tested it yet, but i found it :) |
| 07:25.11 | Rasi | hehe |
| 07:25.43 | jayjay | yes its working great |
| 07:26.53 | Rasi | i still cant decide if i like kwin or openbox more |
| 07:27.09 | Rasi | featurewise they are on one level i guess.. apart from the compositing stuff of course |
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| 07:28.03 | wstephenson | Jucato: fwiw i just got a Q9450 and 8600GT desktop, and my T2700 + i945 ThinkPad is _still_ faster at kwin composite :) |
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| 07:28.32 | Jucato | heheh :) |
| 07:28.52 | Jucato | I bet your 8600GT is way faster than my GeForce4 MX 4000 :P |
| 07:29.19 | lemma | Jucato: it is :) |
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| 07:29.42 | Eren | hi =) |
| 07:29.44 | Jucato | stupid argb bug... :( |
| 07:30.17 | lemma | Jucato: It's still there with the latest beta driver. makes me wonder if it's actually nvidia or x.org that's bugged |
| 07:30.22 | Eren | akregator can no longer lift my work load |
| 07:30.26 | Eren | it crashes at startup |
| 07:30.28 | Eren | [~/.kde/share/apps]> du -hs akregator/ |
| 07:30.28 | Eren | 197M akregator/ |
| 07:30.30 | Eren | heh.. |
| 07:30.33 | wstephenson | Jucato: i could have put a nv 9300 or something else piddly in and got the same desktop performance, and saved about 35 watts. |
| 07:30.48 | lemma | Eren: well, there's a simple solution to that but you won't like it :) |
| 07:31.00 | Eren | don't say that I should delete cache |
| 07:31.01 | Eren | : |
| 07:31.02 | Eren | :( |
| 07:31.12 | Jucato | Eren: I have 198M and it's still working fine |
| 07:31.16 | lemma | Eren: I haven't said that.. yet :) |
| 07:31.44 | Eren | Jucato: mine has been working because my RAM content isn't deleted when I power off my machine |
| 07:31.49 | Eren | I have been using hibernate |
| 07:31.49 | pinotree | Eren: for start, you could paste the backtrace in a pastebin |
| 07:31.58 | Eren | and yesterday, the electricty went off |
| 07:32.07 | Eren | and akregator blowed up :P |
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| 07:32.24 | Jucato | Eren: I reboot (or get booted out) a lot... I don't think that really matters |
| 07:32.34 | Eren | of course |
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| 07:32.50 | Eren | hm, I think the problem is caused by planetsecurity |
| 07:32.56 | Eren | I met this error before :\ |
| 07:33.14 | Eren | pinotree: btw, I didn't compiled it with debugging support |
| 07:33.19 | Eren | and debugging symbols are stripped |
| 07:33.26 | Eren | I use binary distro |
| 07:33.50 | Jucato | binary distros usually have a -dbg package (at least Debian-based ones do) |
| 07:33.51 | pinotree | then, unless your distro provides packages with debug symbols, you are on your own... |
| 07:34.04 | Eren | Jucato: we don't support it yet, unfortunately |
| 07:34.11 | Jucato | I see |
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| 07:37.31 | Eren | hu |
| 07:37.33 | Eren | huh.. |
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| 07:38.40 | Eren | I think, I should set cache size |
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| 07:41.59 | Eren | heh, now akregator doesn't crash but consumes %99 CPU at startup and freezes |
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| 07:43.19 | Eren | lemma: and what was your solution? :-) |
| 07:43.30 | lemma | Eren: rm -Rf :D |
| 07:43.42 | Eren | :P |
| 07:43.51 | Eren | rm -rfv ~/.kde |
| 07:43.53 | Eren | it's better |
| 07:44.00 | keisangi | new krunner showed on planetkde look great :) |
| 07:44.16 | Eren | I can't fetch it, damn :( |
| 07:44.17 | keisangi | kde4.1 is going to be really coolto use |
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| 07:55.34 | Eren | yay! it runs :P |
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| 07:58.46 | Rasi | nice.. krunner looks sexy |
| 07:58.53 | Rasi | reminds me of katapult |
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| 08:03.23 | Eren | Aaron completely hacks KDE4 :) |
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| 08:08.36 | Eren | LOL, "that's the problme with randomness, you can never be sure" |
| 08:08.43 | Eren | http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2001-10-25/ |
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| 08:13.17 | victor- | anyone know how i can switch the option and control buttons? |
| 08:13.52 | victor- | actually, i just want it to be like osx. option+w to close a window/tab, option+q to quit, etc. |
| 08:14.00 | victor- | but i want to keep option+# to change tab numbers. :) |
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| 08:16.24 | Rasi | in kde4 its in keyboard&mouse |
| 08:16.31 | Rasi | there you find all shortcuts |
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| 08:19.18 | victor- | i'm still on kde 3. kde4 to me is pretty, but it is a backwards step in usability, unfortunately (i love kde). i looked at the kde3 keyboard settings, but it doesn't seem to work. |
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| 08:20.37 | Rasi | how has usability changed in kde4? |
| 08:20.48 | Rasi | cant find much of a difference in that aspect |
| 08:21.24 | thiago | victor-: 4.1? |
| 08:21.33 | thiago | if you're looking at 4.0, it's not a good comparison |
| 08:21.50 | thiago | heck, 4.1 isn't either. KDE 3.5 is a product of years of effort |
| 08:22.13 | Rasi | apart from the missing options for some things 4.0 also does not behave different to kde3 |
| 08:22.15 | victor- | thiago: i know.. i'm waiting patiently. :) i haven't tried 4.1 yet.. but i'll try it soon. |
| 08:22.18 | thiago | since KDE 3.0 wasn't that big of a change, you can say that 3.5 has a 6 years of work |
| 08:22.20 | Rasi | the apps are still the same :P |
| 08:22.37 | thiago | KDE 4.1 will help catching up, but it still won't be on the same level |
| 08:22.41 | thiago | I don't expect that any time soon |
| 08:22.41 | Sput | much moar shiny :) |
| 08:22.52 | thiago | it'll go in a different direction |
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| 08:23.49 | Sput | actually I am quite excited about aseigo's plasma plans for 4.2 |
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| 08:26.31 | wstephenson | intends to enjoy 4.1 for a bit first |
| 08:26.55 | thiago | 4.1 works fine for me |
| 08:27.03 | thiago | well... as fine as you can expect for a .1 release |
| 08:27.10 | thiago | KDE 3.1 wasn't much better |
| 08:27.11 | victor- | i need to try 4.1.. but 4.0 was almost as annoying as vista. |
| 08:27.25 | annma | the desktop you mean victor- |
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| 08:27.38 | annma | KDE is far more than a desktop interface though |
| 08:27.53 | victor- | the desktop icon handlers drove me crazy. i have a right mouse button for a reason. i don't need little controls popping up at different locations when i hover my mouse. |
| 08:28.16 | Rasi | victor-: desktop icons are fail |
| 08:28.18 | Rasi | :P |
| 08:28.31 | Rasi | you will not see them in kde4.. not in the near future |
| 08:28.32 | annma | fail? |
| 08:28.40 | wstephenson | annma: babytalk. |
| 08:28.44 | annma | !!! |
| 08:28.44 | victor- | the huge panel was also bad. |
| 08:28.49 | victor- | i hope it's configurable in 4.1? |
| 08:28.54 | Rasi | it is |
| 08:28.54 | annma | !!!!!!! |
| 08:28.58 | annma | omg |
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| 08:29.14 | Rasi | victor-: VERY nicely indeed, look on planetkde.org and check the nice panel config video :P |
| 08:29.22 | annma | users seem to spend all day configuring the panel and mousing over the desktop |
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| 08:29.51 | wstephenson | thiago: i'm thinking we have a problem though between increased user expectations and a certain decrease in developer coordination that i perceive |
| 08:29.56 | Rasi | victor-: http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Enlarge_your_panel |
| 08:29.58 | victor- | annma: it's not that users spend all day doing it.. but when things change it should be to make things easier to use. |
| 08:30.15 | Rasi | no.. when things change it means things get different |
| 08:30.19 | annma | wstephenson: users expect same stuff for a start, they have trouble using something else |
| 08:30.25 | Rasi | its the nature of "changing" |
| 08:30.46 | blauzahl | annma: "full of fail" ;) |
| 08:30.48 | wstephenson | eg 4.1 is getting there, 4.2 is better, but it seems we're just loping along at a comfortable pace, we could get there faster |
| 08:30.59 | thiago | wstephenson: yeah, no doubts about it |
| 08:31.02 | wstephenson | s/is better/will be better/ |
| 08:31.07 | thiago | for KDE 3.1, we didn't have extragear |
| 08:31.10 | thiago | our codebase was much smaller |
| 08:31.17 | annma | extragear is a pain |
| 08:31.28 | annma | for plasma I mean |
| 08:31.29 | thiago | all of the developers worked on the KDE modules |
| 08:31.42 | thiago | and we had a core group of long-time contributors |
| 08:31.50 | annma | few people work on overall KDE now |
| 08:31.51 | blauzahl | is branch-switching back to trunk. it shoudl be interesting to see what i make of plasma then. |
| 08:31.52 | thiago | and KDE 3.1 looked *ugly* |
| 08:32.17 | blauzahl | for now i mostly ignore it. i can't do much with it. other than kill my video card. |
| 08:32.18 | thiago | was it in 3.1 we switched to Keramik as the default? Or was it later? |
| 08:32.25 | thiago | Crystal came up later, Plastik much later. |
| 08:32.31 | Rasi | compare 3.5.x with what qt4 gives you and you say its still ugly |
| 08:32.39 | thiago | right |
| 08:32.50 | Sput | ah yeah. good old keramik days. |
| 08:32.54 | Sput | candy look ftw |
| 08:32.56 | Sput | NOT |
| 08:32.56 | thiago | also, we had a smaller userbase, one that was used to KDE 2.2 |
| 08:33.02 | blauzahl | transparency is really really sweet under 4 |
| 08:33.03 | wstephenson | thiago: lots of factors |
| 08:33.08 | thiago | now, come to the present: |
| 08:33.23 | thiago | a lot of users, used to KDE 3.5, which looks nice (if not great), stable, lots of apps |
| 08:33.28 | wstephenson | but i've somehow got the feeling that we're not as a group taking it as seriously as we used to. |
| 08:33.30 | thiago | extragear has helped that |
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| 08:33.39 | wstephenson | some subgroups take their bits very seriously |
| 08:33.40 | thiago | a looser group of developers, some of our old core people left us |
| 08:34.04 | thiago | even though we have had a breath of fresh air with new people, we feel the need |
| 08:34.09 | wstephenson | but the core product, not so much, i think we're all assuming it's a SEP |
| 08:34.24 | wstephenson | thiago: definitely looser |
| 08:34.45 | victor- | are any of you guys employed to work on kde? |
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| 08:34.49 | wstephenson | maybe the new core needs to realise it's the new core and waba isn't going to magically wipe everyone's bottom. |
| 08:34.53 | thiago | victor-: employed to work on Qt |
| 08:35.01 | Rasi | but on the other hand, think about the support from trolltech... |
| 08:35.03 | thiago | wstephenson: yep |
| 08:35.04 | victor- | i would love to devote some time to work on kde, but i don't have time. :( |
| 08:35.27 | wstephenson | victor-: start a PhD. grants you infinite kde hacking time |
| 08:35.34 | annma | lol |
| 08:35.35 | victor- | wstephenson: haha. |
| 08:35.36 | thiago | with TT growing and Qt growing, we've fortunately been able to move some of the core upstream and it helps stability |
| 08:35.41 | thiago | but not completely |
| 08:36.06 | Sput | wstephenson: IBTD |
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| 08:36.26 | thiago | I'm happy with libkdecore and libkdeui |
| 08:36.29 | victor- | wstephenson: maybe in a few years. i'm about to move to austin, tx and need to pay the bills first. :) UT does have a great CS program. |
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| 08:36.30 | wstephenson | i think we need a buff for the release team |
| 08:36.31 | thiago | and libkparts too |
| 08:36.31 | blauzahl | "waba"? |
| 08:36.36 | thiago | libkio definitely needed more love |
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| 08:36.38 | thiago | blauzahl: Waldo Bastian |
| 08:36.51 | Sput | I dunno, but when I did PhD studies in the US, I didn't have much time outside campus |
| 08:36.55 | thiago | SSL is still not there... |
| 08:37.02 | thiago | (it was never there, even in KDE 3) |
| 08:37.02 | Sput | and now doing my PhD in Germany, it's almost worse |
| 08:37.05 | blauzahl | ah. waldo. |
| 08:37.12 | annma | The Waldo |
| 08:37.29 | wstephenson | thiago: yeah, i rewrote kdepim/kresources/groupwise to use qsslsocket finally last night. |
| 08:37.56 | thiago | wstephenson: KSslSocket should be the one to use, but I haven't talked to maelcum in a while |
| 08:38.02 | thiago | I prototyped it for him |
| 08:38.03 | blauzahl | Sput: no, i think the grad student kde hackers are not getting anywhere ;) |
| 08:38.09 | wstephenson | Sput: you'll probably get your PhD then, unlike me ;) |
| 08:38.16 | Sput | I doubt that :) |
| 08:38.17 | thiago | anyways, I'll add the proxy stuff to Qt instead |
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| 08:38.25 | Sput | I still devote too much of my time to FOSS |
| 08:38.44 | annma | we all do Sput |
| 08:38.49 | blauzahl | heh |
| 08:39.02 | thiago | devotes only a fraction of his time to non-FOSS |
| 08:39.05 | Sput | and switching my office machine to KDE4 was a huge mistake, since now I am constantly rebuilding and/or saying "oooooh shiny" |
| 08:39.09 | thiago | like going to a salsa lesson yesterday |
| 08:39.42 | annma | when will we see a YouTube video of Thiago's dance? |
| 08:39.46 | Jucato | thiago: you're lucky. your job is FOSS :) |
| 08:40.02 | annma | Jucato: become mum at home, you'll get it as well |
| 08:40.03 | wstephenson | thiago: keramik was new in 3.1, i finally remembered the right place to look |
| 08:40.21 | Jucato | annma: mum or mom? I'm already @home, so I might be halfway there? :) |
| 08:40.28 | annma | lol, yes! |
| 08:41.34 | Sput | hmm, "cyclic link detected" in konq4 |
| 08:41.38 | Sput | on pages like kdevelop.org |
| 08:41.42 | wstephenson | Sput: too much gentoo. if you want to get ahead and be productive you need a nice binary distribution which supplies bleeding edge packages too. |
| 08:41.44 | Sput | that can't be right |
| 08:42.06 | Sput | wstephenson: very true, but I can't do that anymore... I've been spoiled by Gentoo :) |
| 08:42.20 | Jucato | bleeding to the point of dying isn't good either :) |
| 08:42.27 | wstephenson | join #gentoo-anonymous ;) |
| 08:42.28 | annma | lol Jucato |
| 08:42.45 | Sput | actually, it's not that time consuming... upgrading KDE is a simple "emerge kdelibs @kdebase-meta @kdepim-meta" |
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| 08:43.04 | wstephenson | yees, but it's everything below that that you upgrade too. |
| 08:43.15 | wstephenson | anyway, i am going to see if the office is ready for me |
| 08:43.21 | Jucato | hm.. since we're in that topic... nah nvm... it's not user-related but more dev-related |
| 08:43.27 | Jucato | bye _wstephenson |
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| 08:43.40 | Sput | hmm, something b0rked konq4 hard... can't even click on userfriendly links |
| 08:43.59 | Sput | and heise.de is b0rked too -_- |
| 08:44.07 | Rasi | Sput: had that like 8 days ago |
| 08:44.10 | Rasi | updating fixed it for me |
| 08:44.15 | Sput | yeah, I'm on it |
| 08:44.28 | Sput | I think I had that yesterday for the first time though, strangely enough |
| 08:45.08 | blauzahl | Sput: what time? ;) |
| 08:45.12 | blauzahl | look at the commits. |
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| 08:45.40 | blauzahl | which one could have broke it for you, cause there have been a ton lately |
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| 08:46.10 | Sput | blauzahl: not sure, it was a weekend and I dunno when I updated which exactly :) |
| 08:46.16 | Sput | well, I'll update again and see what happens |
| 08:46.21 | blauzahl | ah. |
| 08:46.35 | blauzahl | sounds like it was before a few then ;) |
| 08:46.51 | blauzahl | try again, you'll get frostbyte ;) |
| 08:46.56 | blauzahl | i think that was after. |
| 08:47.08 | Sput | I _believe_ I rebuilt konq and libkonq yesterday, since I noticed a bump of khtml and kjs |
| 08:47.22 | blauzahl | yep. |
| 08:47.24 | Sput | but it's all blurry :) |
| 08:47.28 | Jucato | wonders if he dares risk crashing his X by going to a site which previously crashed X.. |
| 08:47.32 | blauzahl | blurry, huh? |
| 08:47.52 | Sput | blauzahl: done a lot of updating on several machines lately, in the process of fixing up some ebuilds for KDE and stuff |
| 08:47.53 | blauzahl | i should actually look at the recent commit logs |
| 08:48.05 | Sput | I'm never sure when stuff broke |
| 08:49.16 | rrohde | hello ... anyone here a kexi buff? I am rather new to DB design and can't for the life of me not figure out how to have a working combo box that queries specified tables... |
| 08:49.33 | blauzahl | there was on commit that broke stuff, i know that. i saw the fix go by on konq-bugs ;) |
| 08:49.40 | blauzahl | *one |
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| 08:50.13 | blauzahl | #kde-chat maybe ;) |
| 08:50.18 | Jucato | rrohde: you might want to ask in #koffice too |
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| 08:50.21 | Fenrir | hey |
| 08:50.33 | rrohde | ok.. thanks Jucato |
| 08:50.36 | blauzahl | kexi help here, not #kde-chat. but the rest of us ;) |
| 08:50.39 | Fenrir | is it possible to put KDE mediamanager up manually |
| 08:50.42 | Fenrir | without reboot ? |
| 08:50.58 | Jucato | Fenrir: KControl/System Settings -> Serviced Manager |
| 08:51.02 | Jucato | Service* |
| 08:51.08 | Jucato | here goes testing the website... |
| 08:51.11 | Fenrir | Jucato, thanks |
| 08:51.37 | Jucato | whoa kool it didn't crash... |
| 08:51.41 | Jucato | now to try filelight... |
| 08:51.50 | Fenrir | thanks Jucato i'll try |
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| 08:52.25 | Fenrir | unable to contact KDED |
| 08:52.27 | Fenrir | :S |
| 08:52.49 | Sput | blauzahl: fix already in svn? |
| 08:52.58 | Jucato | Fenris Fenrir: KDE 4? |
| 08:53.01 | blauzahl | should be. |
| 08:53.16 | Fenrir | any idea can i start the mediamanager w/ console ? |
| 08:53.30 | blauzahl | Sput: although enough other stuff went in last minute, that if something broke, file a bug report and i'll make sure it gets to someoen |
| 08:53.51 | Jucato | Fenrir: your problem seems to be deeper. is kded running at all? |
| 08:54.08 | Fenrir | Jucato, dunno.. the desktop is up tho |
| 08:54.09 | blauzahl | once they come out of comas ;) |
| 08:54.10 | Fenrir | :P |
| 08:54.21 | Sput | blauzahl: yeah, I'll do a complete upgrade and then I'll report back |
| 08:54.23 | Jucato | Fenrir: no that's different. kdesktop handles the Desktop |
| 08:54.29 | Jucato | kded is more generic |
| 08:55.23 | Fenrir | how can i check it ? |
| 08:55.24 | blauzahl | Sput: seriously, i'll keeping a careful eye on the incoming reports |
| 08:56.09 | blauzahl | Sput: take a note of your rev number before you upgrade, in case its still an issue, then that will nail somewhat as to what broke things |
| 08:56.13 | Jucato | Fenrir: Ctrl+Esc |
| 08:56.31 | blauzahl | svn info |
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| 08:59.54 | _wstephenson | blauzahl: word from the wise: making personal bug manager commitments to people other than nearest and dearests is a foolproof way to give yourself a bugzilla allergy ;) |
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| 09:00.06 | blauzahl | lol |
| 09:00.17 | blauzahl | i'm already an addict |
| 09:00.29 | _wstephenson | or maybe i'm just a heartless sod =) |
| 09:00.39 | blauzahl | although tbh, someone will probably beat me to it |
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| 09:01.58 | blauzahl | i read konq-bugs anyway |
| 09:02.09 | Rasi | best lecture ever |
| 09:02.12 | Rasi | NOT |
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| 09:02.19 | blauzahl | heh, i didn't promise it fixed ;) |
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| 09:10.21 | tech9iner | so mates.. i hate passionately the tard mouse gestures shit.. i have been googling n asking irc etc for mos how to kill kill kill damned gestures.. completely turns me hair grey due the pad placement & lazy thumbs.. justlost 40 mins of my drupal site's rtf editor work.. cause this anti brilliant gesture shit combined w occasional lazy thumb drags = 'back a gazillion pages' .. horrid little idea by the slug slow mousers of the globe .. |
| 09:11.20 | drantin | tech9iner: KDE4 ? |
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| 09:12.13 | tech9iner | nada .. opensuse 10.3 & like 3.5.7 or such |
| 09:12.48 | drantin | ah, can't help exactly, but in kcontrol look for Input Actions, that's what it is under KDE4, and I think the title was the same for KDE3... |
| 09:14.25 | tech9iner | mk coolness drantin.. tx muchly for feedback.. |
| 09:14.31 | Jucato | KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 09:14.34 | Jucato | general settings I think |
| 09:14.41 | tech9iner | lo Jucato |
| 09:14.45 | Jucato | yo tech9iner |
| 09:14.45 | tech9iner | tx lad |
| 09:15.33 | thiago | well, going forward should still have your forms filled in |
| 09:15.45 | thiago | unless, of course, the site's JavaScript clears it |
| 09:15.58 | tech9iner | jkcrikey.. even notice ya see one phattt mosquito & ur nerves to manic.. every hair move distracts ya.. grrr. |
| 09:16.01 | tech9iner | lol |
| 09:16.17 | tech9iner | clears thiago .. |
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| 09:16.52 | tech9iner | already confirmed hard knocks fcktard way here.. if one doest 'submit' in drupal content editor.. one loses.. |
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| 09:18.50 | tech9iner | mk maybe silly to your yutes.. but .. this is all about keyboard.. relative to my mouse pad gesture probs?.. one & same perhaps>.. |
| 09:19.17 | tech9iner | Basic Konqueror gestures. |
| 09:21.39 | tech9iner | mk.. foundit.. |
| 09:22.05 | tech9iner | and guess wtf i found there config wise.. 'disable mouse gestures globally' IS CHECKED? |
| 09:22.35 | mjsilva | ppl any ideia why I can't use auto-login when using centOS as client on a xenserver? |
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| 09:22.45 | tech9iner | yet i still get bout hundred browser probs daily cause for a disabled mouse gesture config.. it sure is sensitive |
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| 09:23.24 | tech9iner | gives up for another month.. new sites goin live.. another day |
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| 09:28.49 | Frogbarf | I used to be able to get user statistics under kopete somehow. They seem to have disappeared. How can I get them back? |
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| 09:35.42 | Rasi | Frogbarf: i guess through one of the plugins |
| 09:36.12 | Frogbarf | I thought it was its down plugin? |
| 09:36.34 | Rasi | it is |
| 09:36.41 | Rasi | a plugin called "statistics" |
| 09:36.52 | Rasi | try to dis- and reenable it |
| 09:37.23 | Frogbarf | dis-? |
| 09:37.29 | Rasi | disable |
| 09:37.47 | Frogbarf | it's not even listed as a plugin |
| 09:38.38 | Rasi | hmm |
| 09:38.42 | Rasi | kde3? |
| 09:39.01 | Frogbarf | 4 |
| 09:39.03 | Frogbarf | 3 |
| 09:39.05 | Frogbarf | 3.5 |
| 09:39.39 | Rasi | do you have plugins at all? |
| 09:39.45 | Rasi | there should be around 10-15 normally |
| 09:40.02 | Rasi | maybe your distribution packages those things extra |
| 09:40.42 | Rasi | tho i dont think so... |
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| 10:06.18 | schiu | hi all, I would like new users not having the minipager-applet (virtual desktop) in kicker. where can I configure this as default? |
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| 10:09.15 | Rasi | schiu: new users just get a copy of the configs in /opt |
| 10:09.33 | Rasi | so you would have to change these directly |
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| 10:10.03 | schiu | Rasi: ok, thx, wiil have a look at it |
| 10:10.05 | Rasi | if there is an easier way i dont know it :P |
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| 10:12.43 | netshark | hi all |
| 10:13.25 | netshark | i`m on Mandriva 2008 Spring using KDE 4 the clock is annoying me :1 |
| 10:13.40 | netshark | how to change it to 12 hours format instead of 24 hours :1 |
| 10:13.47 | netshark | thanks in advance :P |
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| 10:25.51 | schiu | Rasi: Indeed, only removing the applet-entry in /opt/.../config/kickerrc did the job, thx very much! |
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| 10:26.19 | Rasi | wow.. cant believe it worked :P |
| 10:26.20 | Rasi | hehe |
| 10:26.48 | Rasi | so.. shopping time |
| 10:27.15 | schiu | Rasi: don't spend to much :-) |
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| 10:54.25 | dim | hi |
| 10:54.54 | dim | how to have konqueror accept urls such as http://user@domain.tld@www.service.tld/ ? |
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| 10:55.34 | thiago | dim: %40 |
| 10:55.46 | thiago | that which you pasted isn't valid |
| 10:56.20 | dim | the second @ will get replaced by a %40 by konq, and it's still unable to load the url |
| 10:56.27 | dim | http host unknown |
| 10:56.30 | thiago | you probably want the first one |
| 10:56.42 | thiago | user%40domain.tld@www.service.tld |
| 10:57.03 | dim | this or user@domain.tld%40www.service.tld gives the same error |
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| 11:05.14 | xlotlu | kontact is unable to start with more modules loaded? |
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| 11:19.33 | xlotlu | this is just silly. waiting for hours to read my feeds, but the akregator module not loaded, because i didn't click on it. or i could run kontact --module this ; kontact --module that ; kontact --module another because it doesn't honor multiple --module arguments.. |
| 11:20.08 | annma | xlotlu: #kontact and precise what version please |
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| 11:20.15 | xlotlu | and then get flickering windows, as the second run won't honor --iconify |
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| 11:23.43 | xlotlu | annma: thank you for pointing me with a user support question to the KDEPIM development channel. and dumb me posting before i read the topic ... |
| 11:24.10 | xlotlu | and version 1.2.9 |
| 11:25.33 | bentob0x | what do you use to see the active connections to/from your machine? |
| 11:25.50 | bentob0x | some applet for the panels would be nice |
| 11:26.36 | xlotlu | bentob0x: netstat -anp |
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| 11:29.49 | bentob0x | I'm looking for some kind of GUI xlotlu, more like the 'active connections' panel in Firestarter |
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| 11:44.06 | FiNeX | hi |
| 11:47.27 | mjs | ppl where can I find more info about kdmrc? |
| 11:47.57 | mjs | I can't configure auto-login with xenserver as host on a centos client |
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| 11:58.10 | djdarkman | if I can`t unlock the panels then what config files are corrupt? |
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| 12:05.18 | djdarkman | what configuration files does kicker use? |
| 12:05.33 | Jucato | kickerrc |
| 12:05.44 | Jucato | you can't right-click to unlock them? |
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| 12:07.17 | djdarkman | no I can`t Jucato some of my kde configuration files got corrupted |
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| 12:07.29 | Jucato | ouchie |
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| 12:08.25 | djdarkman | Jucato: you know how it is, ati driver -> system halt -> power off -> power on -> fsck hell, etc. |
| 12:08.40 | Jucato | sorry, I don't know how it is... |
| 12:08.44 | Jucato | <-- nvidia user :/ |
| 12:08.52 | xjunior | how do I make my taskbar transparent? |
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| 12:10.41 | djdarkman | Jucato: where should kickerrc be? |
| 12:10.54 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/config/ |
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| 12:11.10 | _apk | hi! :) |
| 12:12.03 | _apk | I'm looking for an image viewer in kde...I was using one in kubuntu, that was shipped with it, but now with debian I cannot find it |
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| 12:12.32 | Jucato | _apk: gwenview |
| 12:12.33 | _apk | can anyone suggest me one viewer? :) |
| 12:12.49 | _apk | Jucato, I'm going to try it...thank you :) |
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| 12:14.24 | _apk | wonderful Jucato! many many thanks |
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| 12:14.44 | _apk | It's the viewer that I was looking for :) |
| 12:15.01 | Jucato | :) |
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| 12:31.02 | chjunior | is there a way to make my taskbar transparent in kde 4.0.4? |
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| 12:32.43 | djdarkman | does kicker make an error log or something? |
| 12:33.14 | Jucato | djdarkman: nope |
| 12:33.53 | djdarkman | ohhhh man gues this means i need to delete ~/.kde |
| 12:34.07 | Jucato | djdarkman: or just the offending config file.. |
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| 12:43.57 | djdarkman | Jucato: tried, but didn`t work, that`s why I asked what config files does kicker use |
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| 12:44.34 | Jucato | hm... maybe the locking isn't in kickerrc... can you find anything there relating to "kiosk"? |
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| 12:48.10 | djdarkman | Jucato: where? |
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| 12:48.22 | Jucato | in the config files |
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| 12:49.35 | hrw | hi |
| 12:50.24 | xjunior | Jucato: take a look http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1pn5.png |
| 12:50.25 | xjunior | please |
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| 12:51.23 | hrw | someone know how to make strigi use normal amount of cpu time (instead of 80%) for its work? |
| 12:51.34 | hrw | other then renicing it each time |
| 12:51.46 | Jucato | xjunior: not really sure what's happening there... sorry |
| 12:51.50 | annma | hrw: file a bug report against it with figures |
| 12:51.59 | xjunior | Jucato: but, that's not normal, right? |
| 12:52.01 | Jucato | (you can try #plasma probably, but that's a dev channel mostly I think) |
| 12:52.09 | jill | priority system maybe.... |
| 12:52.10 | Jucato | aaah strigi.... :) |
| 12:52.19 | Jucato | xjunior: definitely not normal :) |
| 12:52.20 | jill | hi there |
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| 12:52.47 | hrw | annma: where? on kde bugtracker? |
| 12:53.01 | annma | yes |
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| 12:53.06 | hrw | Jucato: argh... plasma gives me bad feelings |
| 12:53.10 | annma | where do you get the 80PU from? |
| 12:53.15 | annma | where do you get the 80% CPU from? |
| 12:53.20 | hrw | annma: from nepomuk |
| 12:53.37 | annma | nepomuk or strigi? and what prog indicate that number? |
| 12:53.37 | Jucato | (2 different, but related, things) |
| 12:53.49 | hrw | annma: I disabled it now |
| 12:54.01 | annma | hrw: yu do not answer my questionj |
| 12:54.08 | annma | too bad |
| 12:54.31 | annma | how can we improve things when you do not try to help investigate |
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| 12:55.35 | hrw | /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage |
| 12:55.44 | hrw | that one |
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| 12:55.49 | annma | what do you measure the CPU usage with? |
| 12:56.04 | hrw | 14429 hrw 20 0 218M 21172 13816 D 0.7 0.5 0:52.60 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage |
| 12:56.07 | hrw | htop |
| 12:56.46 | annma | KDE version? |
| 12:56.50 | hrw | when I have more tasks working on machine it get less but most of time it takes 40-85% |
| 12:57.08 | xjunior | Jucato: disabling desktop effects the taskbar becomes normal |
| 12:57.10 | hrw | annma: desktop again 3.5.9 but nepomuk is from 4.0.72-74 svn |
| 12:57.16 | annma | yes so see the report I made |
| 12:57.18 | annma | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161380 |
| 12:57.27 | Jucato | xjunior: hm.. weird |
| 12:57.37 | annma | you are invited to add your comment in it so it can be taken into account |
| 12:57.46 | hrw | annma: 4.0.74 |
| 12:58.11 | xjunior | Jucato: really |
| 12:58.11 | annma | OK, put in in the line from htop please |
| 12:58.25 | annma | hrw: as you can see the nepomuk devel thinks it's strigi |
| 12:58.35 | annma | although it is the nepomuk process |
| 12:59.12 | Jucato | annma: heheh that's amusing :) |
| 12:59.14 | Jucato | finger pointing :P |
| 12:59.24 | annma | yup |
| 12:59.52 | annma | and if people who have the same problem do not take a few minutes to amend the bug report nothing will be done |
| 12:59.58 | hrw | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161380 |
| 13:00.00 | hrw | ops |
| 13:00.12 | hrw | 14429 hrw 20 0 225M 28344 13960 R 98.4 0.7 2:26.03 /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage |
| 13:00.13 | Jucato | annma: too bad though.. strigi and nepomuk are 2 things I'm really interested in using (not just testing)... but strigi in Kubuntu has left me with a bad taste in the mouth |
| 13:00.18 | hrw | this one is nifty |
| 13:00.26 | Jucato | (oh, and in KDE 4 too last time I tried it...) |
| 13:00.55 | annma | yes hrw |
| 13:00.59 | annma | put that in!!!! |
| 13:02.00 | hrw | annma: as kde optimist I think that this bug will be closed quite fast - october 2008 |
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| 13:02.34 | hrw | disabled it at all |
| 13:02.39 | hrw | no use for it with kde 3.5 |
| 13:02.43 | annma | i hope for kde 4.1 end of July |
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| 13:02.56 | hrw | I hope for usable kde 4 in 2009 |
| 13:03.01 | fabin | :) |
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| 13:03.05 | hrw | brb |
| 13:03.20 | Jucato | don't use strigi in kde 3. period :) |
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| 13:04.45 | fabin | :) |
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| 13:05.23 | annma | happy KDE user? |
| 13:05.42 | Jucato | me me me!!! |
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| 13:06.52 | sandsmark | kubuntu afaik only put in strigi to be more like plain ubuntu... which wasn't very clever imho =) |
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| 13:09.08 | Jucato | agrees |
| 13:09.45 | Jucato | Putting D3lphin and Strigi in KDE 3 was a pretty bad move... |
| 13:09.50 | Jucato | aaaanyway past is past :P |
| 13:09.53 | sandsmark | :P |
| 13:10.10 | sandsmark | dolphin wasn't so bad, imho, it was rather finished in kde 3 too |
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| 13:11.23 | Jucato | sandsmark: it was baaad. believe me... before we released it, I had to hack a "Restore <item>" and "Empty Trash Can" into it |
| 13:11.26 | hrw | dolphin from kde 4.1-svn works good with kde 3.5 |
| 13:11.34 | Jucato | and that was just one of the problems :)) |
| 13:11.39 | Jucato | yeah Dolphin rocks! |
| 13:11.47 | Jucato | can't believe I'm saying that.. but Dolphin really rocks! |
| 13:12.23 | hrw | not quite |
| 13:12.27 | mi | today trunk looks great ...kde4 works nice |
| 13:12.39 | sandsmark | well, I still use d3lphin in KDEmod on Arch Linux, and it works just dandy =) |
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| 13:13.27 | hrw | there are things in kde4 which makes dolphin less usable. |
| 13:13.31 | Jucato | sandsmark: I bet KDEmod already mod'ed it to death... d3lphin's maintainer hasn't touched it since September |
| 13:13.39 | mi | I try kde4mod in arch yesterday ...don't look good |
| 13:13.54 | sandsmark | mi: what is wrong? |
| 13:13.56 | hrw | I have 3x"volume ext3", 2x"volume vfat" in sidebar - which one is which? no one know |
| 13:14.01 | mi | bugy |
| 13:14.05 | sandsmark | I just compiled 4.0.74 |
| 13:14.24 | mi | me 2 ...i 2 pc i have ubuntu ... |
| 13:14.28 | sandsmark | mi: I've ran it for some time here, I haven't found any new/noticeable bugs |
| 13:14.55 | hrw | or enter folder with pictues, enable 'preview' and try to scroll |
| 13:14.56 | mi | ok ok ...:) |
| 13:15.02 | sandsmark | mi: if you found any bugs in it, please give us some details |
| 13:15.03 | Jucato | hrw: true. but that's probably something that can be fixed along the way (and fwiw, even Konqueror/KDE 3's media:/ had that same issue) |
| 13:15.03 | sandsmark | =) |
| 13:15.24 | Jucato | hrw: no problem with previews here |
| 13:15.51 | hrw | Jucato: konq3 shows "2.0G Media", "37G Media" and this tells me more then "Volume (ext3) twice |
| 13:15.54 | sandsmark | mi: the kdemod maintainers usually hang out in #shaman-arch (since it's a related project) |
| 13:16.13 | mi | kdemod works great |
| 13:16.15 | Jucato | hrw: yeah. but I doubt that's Dolphin's doing. more of Solid perhaps |
| 13:16.26 | mi | but i was talking about kde4mod |
| 13:16.32 | Jucato | hrw: see the New Media Notifier |
| 13:16.37 | hrw | Jucato: thats why I wrote "there are things in kde4 which makes dolphin less usable. |
| 13:16.37 | sandsmark | mi: same maintainers |
| 13:17.03 | Jucato | hrw: yep. just clarifying which "things" are the culprit :P |
| 13:17.05 | sandsmark | mi: or, if you mean kdemod unstable, that is (I haven't heard about kde4mod before =) |
| 13:17.41 | hrw | Jucato: as usual |
| 13:17.49 | mi | maybe i was drunk yestrday :) |
| 13:17.51 | mi | ahahah |
| 13:18.49 | sandsmark | =P |
| 13:20.41 | mi | huh i change font in weather applet but still looks ugly |
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| 14:12.59 | chewed-o1 | Where is the KDE network config file stored, anybody know ? |
| 14:13.11 | thiago | which network setting? |
| 14:13.25 | chewed-o1 | the one that lets you set the local area network IP address, gateway, domain etc. |
| 14:13.37 | thiago | nowhere |
| 14:13.39 | thiago | that's not KDE configuration |
| 14:13.54 | grave^oO | moin folks o/ |
| 14:14.01 | sandsmark | chewed-o1: what distribution do you use? |
| 14:14.36 | chewed-on | sandsmark: Gentoo |
| 14:14.52 | sandsmark | then ask in #gentoo =) |
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| 14:36.43 | Sput | blauzahl: I still get a "cyclic link detected" when I try to open www.kdevelop.org with a newly built konqueror |
| 14:36.50 | Sput | can you reproduce that? |
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| 14:56.23 | WhatAreYou | using fedora 9 kde |
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| 15:58.35 | Tanktalus | how do I add more desktops to kde 4? I'm not finding that as a configurable value... :-( |
| 15:58.52 | dwins | Tanktalus: configure the pager applet |
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| 16:00.30 | Tanktalus | hmm... is it another tab? I don't see it showing up :-( Must be in another library I don't have installed. |
| 16:00.57 | Tanktalus | bah, nevermind... it's configure *desktops* not the pager itself. |
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| 16:02.10 | Jucato | :) |
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| 16:24.59 | andersin | Hi, does anyone here have a few moments to help me confirm a problem of mine. |
| 16:25.17 | andersin | I just created a textfile with an umlaut in its name (e.g. testö.txt) |
| 16:25.42 | andersin | now when I look at the directory with sftp://localhost, the name is not displayed correctly |
| 16:26.07 | andersin | it seems that kio-sftp gets the encoding wrong |
| 16:26.40 | andersin | in konqueror, if I change the remote encoding, I can get the name to display correctly |
| 16:26.52 | andersin | but in dolphin, there is no way of changing the encoding |
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| 16:30.58 | milliams | andersin: I can confirm the bad encoding in Dolphin (trunk) with sftp |
| 16:31.16 | milliams | If no one can offer a solution here, it's probably worth a bug report |
| 16:31.30 | Aw0L | anyone know how to make kde prompts for admin tasks ask for user passwords instead of root, and vice versa? |
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| 16:32.53 | milliams | kdesu -u UserName -c CommandToRun should do it, if that's what you mean |
| 16:33.14 | Jucato | Aw0L: Google on how to make kdesu use sudo (provided your user is able to use su) |
| 16:33.33 | Aw0L | Jucato, thanks |
| 16:34.02 | andersin | milliams: thanks |
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| 16:45.29 | B4ckBOne | where does kmail save its account infos, and the identity settings .. need to syncronize. And its not in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail ;-) |
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| 16:47.44 | pinotree | ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc |
| 16:47.48 | Jucato | try the various *mail* files in ~/.kde/share/config/ |
| 16:47.52 | Jucato | bah.. too slow :( |
| 16:48.00 | B4ckBOne | thx guys :-) |
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| 16:55.18 | hype | is there a networkmanager for kde4 like the on for kde3? |
| 16:55.26 | floe | hi all |
| 16:55.47 | pinotree | not yet |
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| 16:56.16 | hype | pinotree: you answered to me? |
| 16:56.20 | pinotree | yes |
| 16:56.56 | hype | ok, thx will it be in kde4.1 or can i built it myself from trunk or something? |
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| 16:57.11 | floe | a friend of mine is stuck. His kde isn't starting anymore after upgrading (debian / testing / kde 3.5.).. after loging in to kdm the splash screen appears but kdesktop and kwin are not starting... any ideas or hints how to debug? |
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| 16:57.33 | floe | oops... kde 3.5.9 |
| 16:58.13 | PovAddict | argh |
| 16:58.19 | PovAddict | KMail is marking unread messages wrong |
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| 16:58.33 | PovAddict | when I update all folders, it says I have 25 messages unread in a certain folder |
| 16:58.44 | PovAddict | I click the folder, it loads the headers, and no messages are unread (unread count goes back to zero) |
| 16:58.57 | PovAddict | update all folders... unread count back to 25 |
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| 17:01.28 | PovAddict | ARGH |
| 17:01.55 | PovAddict | the unread count is totally useless if it keeps bouncing back and forth +/- 25 |
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| 17:06.51 | PovAddict | ffs now it's actually marking random messages as unread |
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| 17:09.14 | Anarky | can someone help me |
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| 17:09.29 | Anarky | just have to reproduce what I think is a bug in kcalc |
| 17:09.35 | Anarky | (kde4) |
| 17:10.20 | Anarky | press : 1 M+ C 8 / MR = |
| 17:10.38 | Anarky | if I get it right, this should give 8 |
| 17:10.47 | Anarky | here I get 0 |
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| 17:12.48 | Anarky | I'll see if I get luckier in kde-devel |
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| 17:17.29 | PovAddict | KMail stupidity is impressive |
| 17:17.32 | PovAddict | 17 total messages, 21 unread |
| 17:18.24 | Anarky | PovAddict: IMAP folder ? |
| 17:18.38 | mi | lol |
| 17:18.42 | PovAddict | yes, and as soon as I click the folder the unread count suddenly jumps to zero |
| 17:18.47 | Anarky | if so, try to sync (fetch mail) |
| 17:18.54 | Anarky | and then, clear cache |
| 17:19.09 | Anarky | that might help |
| 17:19.12 | mi | mailody will be better |
| 17:19.26 | PovAddict | when I click fetch mail, the unread count gets its weird number; when I go into the folder, it goes back to zero (and there are no unread messages in the folder) |
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| 17:19.27 | Anarky | or the server is reporting wrong numbers |
| 17:19.39 | Anarky | PovAddict: you already said that |
| 17:19.49 | PovAddict | you told me to try sync |
| 17:19.51 | Anarky | have you tryied what I said ? |
| 17:19.55 | Anarky | yep |
| 17:20.02 | Anarky | and then, clear cache |
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| 17:20.25 | PovAddict | "refresh cache"? |
| 17:20.33 | Anarky | with a right click on the IMAP folder |
| 17:20.47 | Anarky | something like that I gess |
| 17:20.54 | PovAddict | context menu in folders has nothing about "cache" |
| 17:20.57 | Anarky | in french : depanner le cache IMAP |
| 17:21.07 | Anarky | what kmail version ? |
| 17:21.20 | PovAddict | KMail 1.9.9 KDE 3.5.9 |
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| 17:21.45 | PovAddict | "refresh cache" from file menu seem to have helped - thanks |
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| 17:22.09 | kniolet | its "Troubleshoot IMAP cache" on mine |
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| 17:50.33 | hpk | hi the german link please <----newbie |
| 17:50.42 | thiago | german link to what? |
| 17:50.51 | hpk | fedora |
| 17:51.16 | hpk | sorry kde |
| 17:51.17 | thiago | not a KDE issue |
| 17:51.19 | thiago | ah |
| 17:51.26 | thiago | no link in German |
| 17:51.32 | hpk | ok thanks |
| 17:51.50 | thiago | oh, who would have guessed that http://www.kde.de/ exists |
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| 17:51.57 | pinotree | there's also #kde.de |
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| 17:55.20 | Tanktalus | is having trouble assigning keys to menu items in kde4 ... :-/ |
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| 17:55.55 | SSJ_GZ | Tanktalus: It didn't work for me last time I tried, either :/ |
| 17:56.17 | Tanktalus | SSJ_GZ: ok, good to know... not just me :-) |
| 17:56.33 | SSJ_GZ | :) |
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| 17:57.14 | Tanktalus | awaits kde 4.1 :-) |
| 17:57.31 | thiago | don't wait, use it now :-) |
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| 17:57.53 | Tanktalus | thiago: :-P |
| 17:58.15 | Tanktalus | I prefer to try to be something a little closer to stable for my primary desktop ;-) |
| 17:58.57 | SSJ_GZ | Tanktalus: I'm hoping to get KDE4Daily up and running within the next week or so, so hopefully you'll be able to try it out, risk-free :) |
| 17:58.59 | Tanktalus | though I'm really hoping for a number of fixes: addition of pim back into the desktop, fixing of bugs in kopete, and now this menu editor thingy :-) |
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| 18:10.39 | ForgeAus | hey all |
| 18:10.41 | ForgeAus | :) |
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| 18:15.44 | MrGrim | does anyone know the status of irc support in kopete for kde4? |
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| 18:16.19 | ForgeAus | MrGrim why not use konversation? |
| 18:16.52 | MrGrim | I do, but at work I don't have the real estate for two communication clients |
| 18:17.11 | MrGrim | the 30+ putty windows tend to take a lot of room |
| 18:17.28 | dwins | you have 30 windows and you're worried about one more? |
| 18:17.32 | ForgeAus | lol I find kopete an unlikely tool for IRC, I mean its doable but... |
| 18:17.46 | MrGrim | right now we use gaim on winxp, looking forward to kopete windows port |
| 18:17.54 | MrGrim | last beta build didn't include the irc plugin tho |
| 18:18.00 | ForgeAus | MrGrim check out andwindows :) |
| 18:18.05 | ForgeAus | erm sorry |
| 18:18.06 | ForgeAus | AndLinux |
| 18:18.12 | MrGrim | ForgeAus: requires admin |
| 18:18.24 | MrGrim | dwins: I need to keep irc/im always visible |
| 18:18.24 | ForgeAus | prolly does |
| 18:18.31 | ForgeAus | hmmm interix wouldn't |
| 18:18.38 | ForgeAus | but you need admin to install SFU to start with lol |
| 18:18.42 | Mrrrrz0r | just use Miranda? :/ |
| 18:18.46 | MrGrim | ForgeAus: either way, kopete windows port or kopete linux port |
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| 18:19.01 | MrGrim | same plugins are available |
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| 18:19.17 | MrGrim | at least I was told it was disabled in kopete for kde4 at that time |
| 18:19.39 | dwins | it is disabled in 4.0.3, no idea whether there are plans to re-enable it |
| 18:19.57 | dwins | maybe you could find a roadmap on techbase.kde.org? or ask in #kopete? |
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| 18:20.07 | MrGrim | I even tried NX rootless mode to run kopete on my machine and display it remotely |
| 18:20.13 | MrGrim | turns out NX really hates trihead |
| 18:20.25 | ForgeAus | speaking of windows anyone know much about Gentoo-Alt's target x86-winNT (ie a gentoo prefix without Interix) |
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| 18:20.47 | ForgeAus | http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-alt/msg_ddc72018dac23e08b6a007e165e13587.xml explains some stuff about it |
| 18:21.24 | pinotree | ForgeAus: ask in #gentoo ? |
| 18:22.02 | ForgeAus | pinotree, I was thinking more about KDE4Win |
| 18:22.13 | ForgeAus | (that it might be useful to that project) |
| 18:22.32 | pinotree | <ForgeAus> speaking of windows anyone know much about Gentoo-Alt's target x86-winNT (ie a gentoo prefix without Interix) |
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| 18:22.43 | pinotree | i don't see anything "kde specific" in there.. |
| 18:22.46 | ForgeAus | yeah... |
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| 18:23.05 | ForgeAus | pinotree kde4win oddly has a built in emerge ... |
| 18:23.24 | ForgeAus | and as you may already know gentoo is based around ebuild/emerge (known as portage) package management |
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| 18:23.48 | pinotree | yes, and? |
| 18:23.50 | ForgeAus | I thought a native windows emerge might be useful to their installation process for KDE4win esp since this one would be a native windows emerge... |
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| 18:24.04 | ForgeAus | so it is related to KDE... |
| 18:24.17 | ForgeAus | as a package manager... |
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| 18:24.30 | pinotree | and what's the problem with theirs? |
| 18:24.58 | ForgeAus | um I didn't say there was one (theirs reimplements some kinda emerge but its not the "realemerge |
| 18:25.04 | ForgeAus | erm "real" emerge gentoo uses... |
| 18:25.22 | ForgeAus | whereas prefix-alt is likely to be MUCH closer to gentoo's |
| 18:25.33 | pinotree | yes, and what is the problem in they use a system originally based on gentoo's emerge? |
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| 18:26.15 | ForgeAus | pinotree, I don't know, ask them why they use an emerge executable? they might be able to answer that for you.. |
| 18:26.17 | pinotree | probably they had their reasons to do that |
| 18:27.14 | ForgeAus | I agree... they must have... I was just thinking they might find it interesting/more useful in some way to use a native windows emerge based on gentoo's rather than the one they made up themselves... |
| 18:28.09 | pinotree | i think they have much problems/concerns already with coding, then thinking about changing again their build system mor ethan what they have to, currently.. |
| 18:28.48 | ForgeAus | probably, I wouldn't know, then again perhaps this might fix some of the problems?... |
| 18:29.07 | pinotree | go to #kde-windows and ask them |
| 18:29.34 | ForgeAus | I did post it there... |
| 18:30.05 | ForgeAus | I even got a response (after I'd mentioned it here) |
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| 19:17.26 | andersin | Can kde4 use kde3 kio plugins? |
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| 19:20.46 | pinotree | nope |
| 19:21.41 | andersin | pinotree:thanks |
| 19:21.54 | andersin | what is the best way to debug a kio plugin? |
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| 19:30.53 | hellhound | i am currently using kde4 and i previously wanted to use the emerald windows manager however now I want to go back to the default kde4 windows manager. i tried "kwin --replace" and that seems to get rid of emerald but it does not give me the windows style that I set on the kde4 system settings... does anyone know of the correct command to get this back? |
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| 19:33.26 | milliams | hellhound: Make sure that it's not running the kde3 version of kwin |
| 19:33.51 | milliams | Do kwin --version |
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| 19:34.40 | hellhound | milliams: that is what iis happening. how can i point it to the kde4 version? |
| 19:35.00 | milliams | Do you have the kde4 version installed? |
| 19:35.10 | hellhound | yes and it is running right now |
| 19:35.39 | hellhound | qt: 4.3.4 KDE: 4.0.3 (KDE 4.0.3) KWin: 3.0 |
| 19:36.29 | Ulv | ? |
| 19:36.38 | hellhound | ah hah I found it.... /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kwin --replace |
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| 19:39.01 | Ulv | Excuse me for interrupting, but I am running KDE 3.5.9-5. I can't get my KMix config to show the system tray sound icon. Would upgrading to KDE 4 help? |
| 19:39.35 | FiNeX | Ulv: no |
| 19:39.42 | milliams | Ulv: Well it depends what the reason for it not showing is |
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| 19:40.18 | shadok | Ulv: you could try mv ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc .kde/share/config/kmixrc_BAK |
| 19:40.23 | shadok | oops |
| 19:40.33 | shadok | mv ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc_BAK |
| 19:41.02 | Ulv | I have deselected it and reselected it in KMix and restarted it but this isn't working. Thank |
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| 19:41.31 | Ulv | I'll try the terminal approach, Thanks. |
| 19:42.25 | shadok | np, if it doesn't work you could ask in your distro's channel or see its bugzilla, maybe you'll find a bug |
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| 19:47.24 | tuxick | zarro boogs found |
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| 20:00.38 | Ulv | shadok, I successfully completed the command. Is there another step I need to take? |
| 20:01.16 | shadok | try to restart kmix : 'killall kmix && kmix' |
| 20:01.56 | shadok | that only moved the config file of kmix, so it will create another on the next launch |
| 20:02.12 | shadok | s/moved/renamed |
| 20:02.16 | Ulv | understood. |
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| 20:03.31 | kkumar | hello comrades |
| 20:04.26 | kkumar | comrades recently i found a bug messege |
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| 20:05.35 | Sanitoeter | hey, is there a way to display control characters in kwrite? |
| 20:05.40 | kkumar | "the aplication Konquerror crashed and caused the singnal 11 SIGSEGV |
| 20:05.49 | kkumar | please help |
| 20:05.54 | kkumar | what is this |
| 20:06.04 | thiago_home | kkumar: bug |
| 20:06.12 | kkumar | what to do for it |
| 20:06.41 | thiago_home | which version? |
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| 20:07.00 | kkumar | suse 10.3 |
| 20:07.23 | thiago_home | of konqueror |
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| 20:07.55 | kkumar | yes |
| 20:08.27 | shadok | which version of konqueror |
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| 20:08.34 | shadok | ? |
| 20:08.43 | thiago_home | which version of Konqueror is that? |
| 20:09.40 | kkumar | Konqueror 3.5.7 (using kde 3.5.7 release 72 open suse 10.3) |
| 20:09.58 | thiago_home | does this problem appear often? |
| 20:10.15 | kkumar | i got it second time |
| 20:10.23 | thiago_home | is that often? |
| 20:10.37 | kkumar | first time i got it when i was updating reposatary |
| 20:11.01 | kkumar | or some installation like VLC |
| 20:11.37 | kkumar | ya i remember when i downloaded vlc i got this message |
| 20:11.47 | kkumar | first time |
| 20:12.03 | thiago_home | simply ignore it then |
| 20:12.04 | kkumar | i am new on linux KDE DE |
| 20:12.30 | shadok | it's not dangerous at all, just annoying |
| 20:12.57 | kkumar | i just get another messege |
| 20:12.59 | kkumar | same |
| 20:13.15 | kkumar | actually i wanna write an article on my blog |
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| 20:13.24 | kkumar | but i get this bug |
| 20:13.52 | shadok | do you have other apps that crashes as often as konqueror ? |
| 20:13.57 | wstephenson | kkumar: 3.5.7 is quite old now. you can upgrade the whole thing to 3.5.9 - http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Upgrade |
| 20:14.24 | shadok | good idea |
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| 20:15.50 | kkumar | can u tell me any direct link for kde upgrading |
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| 20:16.03 | wstephenson | kkumar: i just did |
| 20:16.07 | kkumar | because i never use console for commonds |
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| 20:17.04 | Conscience | is anyone who can help me? |
| 20:17.34 | thiago_home | Conscience: no, I don't think so |
| 20:17.39 | thiago_home | we don't know what you need help with. |
| 20:17.41 | thiago_home | :-) |
| 20:17.45 | wstephenson | Conscience: depends. i can't help much with bullet wounds, house fires or impending bankruptcy |
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| 20:18.25 | shadok | knife wounds maybe ? |
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| 20:19.16 | wstephenson | shadok: if it was a very small knife |
| 20:19.38 | Conscience | lool |
| 20:19.39 | wstephenson | accidental slips of a blunt dinner knife, i'm quite good at. |
| 20:19.58 | Conscience | i can not listen any sound on my fedora 9 |
| 20:20.09 | shadok | is a double handed axe considered as a very small knife ? |
| 20:20.42 | pinotree | shadok: if you are Polyphemus, maybe |
| 20:20.43 | wstephenson | wonders if anyone remembers the knife quote from Crocodile Dundee |
| 20:20.46 | shadok | Conscience: have you tried to ask on #fedora (or whatever the official channel could be) ? |
| 20:20.57 | wstephenson | Conscience: #fedora-kde i think |
| 20:20.58 | Tanktalus | how do I update the system configuration? My kglobalshortcutsrc got corrupted, so I removed the corruption (deleted the line), but I need kde to recognise the update... |
| 20:21.02 | Conscience | go trythanks |
| 20:21.10 | kkumar | hello i get error when i am using those commonds |
| 20:21.16 | Tanktalus | hopefully without restarting kde... |
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| 20:21.56 | shadok | pinotree: i'm not afaik :) |
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| 20:23.27 | kkumar | hello |
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| 20:23.56 | kkumar | i get error when i am using commonds for kde updating |
| 20:24.06 | wstephenson | kkumar: we are not mind readers. what commands and what error? use a pastebin service like www.rafb.net/paste to show us the error. |
| 20:24.49 | klebezettel | hello |
| 20:24.58 | Tanktalus | (kde4) how do I update the system configuration? My kglobalshortcutsrc got corrupted, so I removed the corruption (deleted the line), but I need kde to recognise the update, hopefully without restarting kde. |
| 20:25.05 | klebezettel | I'm getting same mails in kmail...well, double mails...any hint why? |
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| 20:27.53 | tuxick | klebezettel: someone is sending them twice! |
| 20:28.11 | klebezettel | tuxick: hehe, no ;) |
| 20:28.52 | tuxick | lemmeguess, they're adding kmail to kde4 ? |
| 20:29.12 | Tanktalus | hopes so :-) |
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| 20:30.11 | wstephenson | klebezettel: no absolute idea, are you using pop filters though? |
| 20:30.37 | jaszczompPL | hi all |
| 20:30.41 | klebezettel | I use filters for pop and imap, but it seems that only imap messages are concerned |
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| 20:31.50 | jaszczompPL | i'd like to download other plasmoids than i have. is it possible? i'm looking for it on whole internet, but find anything. |
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| 20:32.12 | wstephenson | klebezettel: it's certainly possible to setup a filter that will cause a copy to appear. but it could be a bug too |
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| 20:32.38 | wstephenson | klebezettel: unfortunately i can't be much help sorting it out tonight |
| 20:32.39 | ArrPirate | is it just me or does Kubuntu with KDE4 have stability issues? I was trying it out while installing it in a virtual machine and KDE 4 crashed |
| 20:32.55 | wstephenson | klebezettel: you could ask on kdepim-users@kde.org |
| 20:33.20 | jaszczompPL | i'd like to download other plasmoids than i have. is it possible? i'm looking for it on whole internet, but find anything. |
| 20:34.02 | Sladjannn | I have kde4 and I don't know how to add new panel?? So,how? |
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| 20:34.38 | kkumar | hi |
| 20:34.52 | zePh7r | hi everyone |
| 20:34.58 | klebezettel | wstephenson: hmm, it seems to be a known bug: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12345.0 |
| 20:35.01 | ArrPirate | jaszczompPL: How long'd it take you to search the whole internet?! |
| 20:35.12 | Sladjannn | I have kde4 and I don't know how to add new panel?? So,how? |
| 20:35.20 | kkumar | i am using su -c "rpm --import http://................ |
| 20:35.29 | kkumar | commond for kde updating |
| 20:35.31 | jaszczompPL | that was "mind shortcut" |
| 20:35.36 | kkumar | but i am not succeed |
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| 20:35.57 | wstephenson | Sladjannn: if you are using 4.0 you can't unless you have opensuse packages (it's backported). otherwise wait for kde 4.1 beta packages. |
| 20:36.21 | kkumar | how can I update kde directly without any commond |
| 20:36.42 | pusling | wstephenson: hi. do you have a opensuse kde4 running ? |
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| 20:37.27 | wstephenson | pusling: no, opensuse and 2x trunk right now, and i don't want to boot into my clean 11.0. sorry |
| 20:37.40 | pusling | wstephenson: okay. |
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| 20:38.20 | pusling | next time, can you check if the space between your title text and your opensuse logo is smaller with maximized windows than with no-maximized windows ? |
| 20:39.12 | wstephenson | pusling: ask Seli |
| 20:39.57 | pusling | but he is scary ,) |
| 20:40.25 | kkumar | hello |
| 20:40.52 | wstephenson | kkumar: what is the error? |
| 20:40.57 | kkumar | i found direct kde updating for suse |
| 20:41.02 | kkumar | http://blog.linuxoss.com/2008/02/12/update-opensuse-103-and-kde-4/ |
| 20:41.13 | kkumar | it is right or wrong |
| 20:41.21 | pusling | the date looks ancient |
| 20:42.05 | wstephenson | kkumar: i already posted you the upgrade guide from the official opensuse wiki. if you have a problem following it tell us what the error is, don't google for random blogs. |
| 20:42.25 | kkumar | ok |
| 20:42.28 | wstephenson | kkumar: that blog is for kde 4. which you are not ready for. |
| 20:42.47 | kkumar | but tell me i will upgrade my kde through this link or not |
| 20:43.04 | kkumar | because i havwe 3.5.7 kde |
| 20:43.15 | pusling | hands wstephenson a bucket of patience |
| 20:43.16 | kkumar | why |
| 20:43.18 | wstephenson | [22:13] <wstephenson> kkumar: 3.5.7 is quite old now. you can upgrade the whole thing to 3.5.9 - http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Upgrade |
| 20:43.25 | wstephenson | pusling: it's a drop in the ocean |
| 20:43.39 | pusling | wstephenson: don't you have front line support people ;) |
| 20:44.12 | kkumar | i written these commonds but i did not get anything |
| 20:44.20 | Sladjannn | I need help... I am sick of looking for good themes,icons,etc. so can someone give me the link od some very nice theme that he/she uses... I know for kde-look but I don't have time to look... |
| 20:44.52 | wstephenson | kkumar: if it worked correctly you won't get anything |
| 20:45.02 | wstephenson | kkumar: now go on to the next step |
| 20:45.11 | kkumar | is kde 4 do not support my open suse 10.3 |
| 20:45.13 | wstephenson | kkumar: go to #opensuse-kde |
| 20:45.17 | Sladjannn | I need help... I am sick of looking for good themes,icons,etc. so can someone give me the link od some very nice theme that he/she uses... I know for kde-look but I don't have time to look... |
| 20:45.18 | shadok | Sladjannn: snowish icons, dekorator/qtcurve for windows decrations |
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| 20:45.47 | drantin | top rated ones aren't any good? |
| 20:46.10 | Sladjannn | shadok, can u tell me where I can download that? |
| 20:46.21 | Sladjannn | shadok, do u have a link? |
| 20:46.25 | shadok | kde-look :) |
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| 20:46.51 | shadok | Sladjannn: even you distro package manager but it's not sure |
| 20:47.15 | shadok | if it's not here you'll get them here : kde-look.org |
| 20:47.49 | wstephenson | pusling: -ENOPATIENCE |
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| 20:52.46 | snama | hello |
| 20:52.58 | Sladjannn | hello snama |
| 20:53.06 | snama | whats up? |
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| 20:56.15 | tomfmason | I just switched from gnome to kde.. So far I really like it. The only problem I have had is gnome related. Anyone know how I can get rid of the gnome pannel at the bottom of my screen? |
| 20:56.41 | snama | gnome panel? |
| 20:56.51 | snama | you said you were using kde |
| 20:56.56 | tomfmason | I am |
| 20:57.01 | dwins | tomfmason: killall gnome-panel ? |
| 20:57.10 | snama | well |
| 20:57.20 | snama | that will kill the whole panel app |
| 20:57.27 | snama | just delete the bottom one? |
| 20:57.42 | tomfmason | I can't |
| 20:57.47 | tomfmason | I already did that for the top |
| 20:57.58 | tomfmason | there is no option for the bottom panel to delete it |
| 20:58.02 | snama | you dont want any panel at all? |
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| 20:58.25 | snama | if so you need to kill gnome-panel and save the session |
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| 20:59.32 | tomfmason | cool thanks |
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| 20:59.47 | tomfmason | that was a lot easier than I thought it was going to be :) |
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| 20:59.59 | snama | the session manager is nice |
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| 21:12.05 | mhymn | tomfmason: how did you install KDE? what version? |
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| 21:16.53 | Tanktalus | wonders what distro(s) the kde developers use ... :-) |
| 21:18.03 | mhymn | Tanktalus: afaik mostly kubuntu and suse |
| 21:18.31 | kkumar | hi |
| 21:18.43 | pusling | mhymn: I as a debian kde packager interact with quite some kde developers a debian users |
| 21:18.44 | kkumar | i am updating community repo |
| 21:18.55 | kkumar | can it will update my kde |
| 21:19.07 | kkumar | i am using opensuse 10.3 |
| 21:19.39 | mhymn | pusling: i'm very happy hearing that |
| 21:20.07 | pusling | mhymn: and there is also quite a set of mandriva users. and even a couple of gentooists. |
| 21:20.07 | edgy | Hi, konqueror gives me: An error occurred while loading https://vpn.dal01.softlayer.com/: where firefox works, what's the problem please? |
| 21:20.22 | pusling | mhymn: I don't think there is any definate answer to the question of Tanktalus |
| 21:21.08 | mhymn | pusling: yeah, you're right, but we are talking about the majority of them |
| 21:21.18 | Tanktalus | pusling: it's just a curiosity - no worries. I just get the distinct impression from some of them that they don't like certain distros ;-) |
| 21:21.29 | pusling | mhymn: I still don't think you can say anything about the majority. |
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| 21:21.35 | pusling | except the people employeed by novell. |
| 21:21.55 | Tanktalus | they're all using RHEL. :-))))))) |
| 21:22.19 | snama | werent kde 4 packages available for ubuntu and suse first? |
| 21:22.30 | snama | i dont know |
| 21:22.31 | mhymn | Tanktalus: and with the default gnome desktop, right? |
| 21:22.40 | Tanktalus | mhymn: exACtly |
| 21:22.47 | tomfmason | mhymn: I am on debian lenny and I used apt to install it |
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| 21:22.58 | snama | debian is nice |
| 21:23.15 | mhymn | snama: no doubt :-) |
| 21:23.29 | snama | but i had some nasty bugs with lenny |
| 21:23.31 | snama | and sid |
| 21:23.34 | snama | so iam using slackware now |
| 21:23.39 | snama | it works flawlessly |
| 21:23.48 | pusling | snama: did you have some nasty bugs with other non-released software ? |
| 21:23.51 | snama | and i mean NASTY |
| 21:24.11 | tomfmason | it was a real pita to get etch working on my laptop. I had to go to lenny with the 2.6.22 kernel |
| 21:24.19 | mhymn | snama: that's why there is a stable one, you could use that |
| 21:24.21 | snama | i think it was some bug in the core |
| 21:24.23 | edgy | any help please? |
| 21:24.29 | snama | i mean real deep |
| 21:24.34 | snama | yeah i used etch |
| 21:24.39 | snama | but the packages are pretty old |
| 21:25.17 | mhymn | snama: you don't mean KDE4 in etch, do you? |
| 21:25.29 | snama | no no no |
| 21:25.45 | snama | iam not talking about bugs related to any desktop |
| 21:25.47 | edgy | can any one tell me whether the problem is general or is it only me? |
| 21:26.03 | snama | whats up edgy? |
| 21:26.09 | mhymn | snama: so the packages aren't that much old i suppose |
| 21:26.29 | snama | what? |
| 21:26.38 | snama | no they are good |
| 21:26.45 | snama | i used backports too |
| 21:27.21 | edgy | snama: konqueror gives me: An error occurred while loading https://vpn.dal01.softlayer.com/: where firefox works, what's the problem? |
| 21:27.35 | mwoehlke | anyone having problems with plasma from svn? |
| 21:27.56 | snama | hey edgy |
| 21:28.04 | snama | it loaded on my konqueror |
| 21:28.07 | snama | but it took a while |
| 21:30.26 | edgy | snama: strange, which distro? |
| 21:30.33 | snama | slackware |
| 21:30.42 | snama | kde 3.5.9 |
| 21:30.56 | edgy | snama: I am using kubuntu, any one here using kubuntu hardy? |
| 21:31.18 | snama | could it be some network setting specific to konqueror? |
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| 21:34.45 | snama | bye |
| 21:34.48 | edgy | snama: I checked that there is no proxy in either of them |
| 21:35.00 | snama | hmm |
| 21:35.03 | edgy | snama: bye and thanks for trying to help |
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| 21:35.18 | edgy | Any one here using kubuntu hardy????? |
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| 21:38.39 | Tanktalus | what's the video player for kde-4? kaffeine is giving me headaches with the flicker... |
| 21:38.47 | pinotree | edgy: what about a) #kubuntu b) less question marks? |
| 21:38.56 | pinotree | Tanktalus: dragonplayer |
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| 21:41.28 | mehdi | hi to all |
| 21:41.40 | Tanktalus | pinotree: thanks, will install and try that |
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| 21:42.18 | mehdi | help me i cant full speed conect with EXT.modem |
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| 21:43.53 | mehdi | help me i cant full speed conect with EXT.modem |
| 21:45.25 | mehdi | help me i cant full speed conect with EXT.modem |
| 21:45.28 | mhymn | mehdi: so? |
| 21:45.40 | Tanktalus | well, that's *less* flicker ... but not a LOT less... |
| 21:45.43 | mhymn | mehdi: here id #KDE |
| 21:45.46 | mhymn | is* |
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| 21:48.30 | mehdi | i can only lower speed 19000 or 9600 or .... |
| 21:48.39 | mehdi | i can use only lower speed 19000 or 9600 or .... |
| 21:48.46 | mjsilva | ppl one doubt when I say DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 what o.o means? |
| 21:48.59 | thiago_home | mjsilva: o.o ? |
| 21:49.01 | thiago_home | eyes? |
| 21:49.10 | mjsilva | 0.0 i mean? lol |
| 21:49.49 | lemma-laptop | iirc the first 0 is the display number, the second is the screen number |
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| 21:50.24 | mjsilva | screen are tty? |
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| 21:52.19 | mjsilva | lemma-laptop, the variable DISPLAY is the way i can tell where I want my X aplications to open right? |
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| 21:53.09 | lemma-laptop | mjsilva: yes |
| 21:53.31 | lemma-laptop | mjsilva: you can do it like this: $ DISPLAY=:0 konqueror |
| 21:53.46 | lemma-laptop | (the $ is supposed to be the prompt :)) |
| 21:53.54 | mjsilva | got it :) |
| 21:54.01 | mjsilva | dammm linux is great! |
| 21:56.04 | lemma-laptop | hehe ^^ |
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| 21:59.17 | insulina | hello |
| 21:59.19 | insulina | what package have kiconedit ? |
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| 22:01.31 | mhymn | insulina: afaik "kdegraphics" |
| 22:03.17 | mhymn | in debian :-) |
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| 22:06.41 | Thrawn01 | insulina: Looks like kiconedit was taken out 3.91? I see it in 3.90.1 but not in 3.91 http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.90.1/kdegraphics/kiconedit/ |
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| 22:07.03 | pinotree | it's in extragear-graphics now |
| 22:07.04 | insulina | humm |
| 22:07.32 | pinotree | insulina: which version are you looking for? kde3 or kde4? |
| 22:07.57 | insulina | 4 |
| 22:08.19 | pinotree | then it's in the extragear module, you should ask in the channel of your distro whether they packaged it |
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| 22:11.03 | insulina | ok tanx |
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| 22:14.07 | RingtailedFox | heylo... is there a way to change my KDE start menu icon to a custom icom? |
| 22:14.09 | RingtailedFox | *icon? |
| 22:14.50 | thiago_home | yes |
| 22:14.56 | thiago_home | replace the kmenu.png file on your disk |
| 22:15.02 | RingtailedFox | which directory is that? |
| 22:15.49 | thiago_home | I don't remember by heart |
| 22:16.01 | thiago_home | find it on your own, since it probably changes according to the distribution |
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| 22:16.14 | thiago_home | note that there are many such files on your disk: depends on the size and on the icon theme |
| 22:16.27 | thiago_home | you'll have to find the correct one to your settings |
| 22:16.45 | RingtailedFox | ok |
| 22:17.12 | mhymn | is it possible to save the window position in konq profile? it has only the size option |
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| 22:23.36 | mhymn | any idea? |
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| 22:35.37 | sputnick | hi there |
| 22:36.26 | sputnick | what is the simplest way to create a systray icon ? ( I would like to put a bash script running vpn & ssh forwarding ) |
| 22:37.28 | sputnick | I would like to make actions too when I click it. I know perl/bash |
| 22:38.52 | tgillespie__ | sputnick using the kdelibs? |
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| 22:42.23 | nat2610 | hey, I just plugged my laptop on a 28" screen but I notice and ugly shadow or kind of behind the words/ letter, does anyone know what I'm talking about and how to fix that ? I don't have this issue under vista |
| 22:43.35 | SimAtWork | nat2610: what kind of screen? is it a tv? |
| 22:43.47 | nat2610 | no a viewsonic |
| 22:43.51 | SimAtWork | lcd? |
| 22:43.55 | nat2610 | yes |
| 22:44.07 | SimAtWork | i'm guessing you just have the wrong resolution set then. |
| 22:44.42 | SimAtWork | find out what it's ideal resolution is and try to set it to that. |
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| 22:44.56 | SimAtWork | sometimes the monitor itself (usually) will tell you what mode you're in and what mode to switch to |
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| 22:45.15 | nat2610 | no it's already the good one |
| 22:45.37 | nat2610 | it's not blurry it's really like each letter had some shadow |
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| 22:46.05 | SimAtWork | nat2610: take a pic and upload it somewhere, i'd like to see. |
| 22:46.55 | nat2610 | ok |
| 22:48.02 | nat2610 | http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screencaptwa8.png |
| 22:50.37 | nat2610 | http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scrcptwo7.png |
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| 22:51.15 | nat2610 | can you see my problem ? |
| 22:51.31 | nat2610 | maybe it's really only on my screen ... but I hope not |
| 22:52.15 | sputnick | tgillespie__: is there a how too you know ? |
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| 22:55.44 | mhymn | sputnick: did you try "menu editor" tool? it has a option for placing apps in tray, you can add your script to kmenu and ... |
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| 22:57.27 | milliams | nat2610: I don't see whats wrong |
| 22:58.45 | sputnick | mhymn: is it in L menu ? |
| 22:58.50 | sputnick | mhymn: is it in K menu ? |
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| 22:59.26 | mhymn | sputnick: yep, under settings |
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| 23:03.15 | sputnick | mhymn: that it ? http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8523/98726816gj1.png |
| 23:03.28 | Bulwark | Hello... can anyone tell me how to change the KMenu panel icon in KDE4? |
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| 23:08.39 | mhymn | sputnick: no, http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=123jd1.png <-- take a look |
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| 23:15.06 | SimAtWork | nat2610: sorry i got carried off on something else |
| 23:15.08 | SimAtWork | looking now |
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| 23:15.47 | SimAtWork | nat2610: a screen cap won't grab a distrotion on the display device |
| 23:15.54 | SimAtWork | can you take apicture with a camera ? ( no flash ) |
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| 23:29.40 | chronossc | have some program to capture video in kde ? |
| 23:30.50 | sharp15 | in kde 3.5.8 can options be added to the "Actions" menu in the file manager's context menu? |
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| 23:32.24 | mhymn | sharp15: sure, in ~/.kde/share/apps//konqueror/servicemenus/, i use 3.5.5 though |
| 23:34.11 | SimAtWork | bye all |
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| 23:35.30 | MaartenB | I hate the new KDE release, everything seems a step backwards... :(((( |
| 23:35.57 | sharp15 | what is with the directory structure in .kde? sheesh. |
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| 23:39.24 | EvanR | lol |
| 23:40.34 | mhymn | what's up EvanR? |
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| 23:43.08 | sharp15 | didn't work. |
| 23:44.00 | sharp15 | or is it not possible to put bash scripts in there and have them executed with the file selected as the argument? |
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| 23:46.56 | mhymn | sharp15: it should, there are lots of scripts in kde-app that use the same trick as you mentioned |
| 23:47.27 | sharp15 | do i have to do something specific to get the directory indexed? i had to create it. |
| 23:47.43 | Jucato | sharp15: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
| 23:48.15 | Jucato | (or http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html) |
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| 23:49.31 | pedepy | help !! my plasma won't save ze settings |
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| 23:52.51 | mhymn | Jucato: aren't those links KDE4 related? |
| 23:53.06 | Jucato | the 2nd one isn't |
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| 23:55.54 | boxfire_ | is there a compact directory list mode in konqueror like in Thunar for xfce or windows explorer? |
| 23:56.27 | Jucato | KDE 3 or 4? (not sure what "compact directly list mode" looks like though) |
| 23:57.30 | dwins | suspects boxfire_ means the tree view sidebar, in which case the answer is yes |
| 23:57.48 | ryanakca | Who would I poke to ask for a password reset for kdetalk.net ? |
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| 23:59.51 | Ertain | Hello everyone. Does anyone know how Phonon for KDE4 is going? |
