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| 00:08.04 | level1 | Im having trouble getting sound to work in kde 4 with phonon... I have sound in kde 3 apps but not kde 4 |
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| 00:11.01 | Mathman | hi. anyone know if konqueror has a search box? where I could throw google or whatever. |
| 00:11.07 | pagan0ne | can someone help me with a kppp issue, or point me in the right direction? |
| 00:11.33 | dwins | Mathman: the location bar respects web shortcuts |
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| 00:11.46 | dwins | so you can do "gg:term" to search google for term |
| 00:11.56 | thiago | Mathman: yes, it's a plugin, but gg:term is better |
| 00:12.03 | thiago | wp:term, dict:term, etc. |
| 00:12.10 | pinotree | Mathman: it's available for both kde3 and kde4 |
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| 00:12.41 | pagan0ne | i created a new user account, and now kppp dials out, but hangs on "connecting to network" |
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| 00:12.51 | dwins | (the run dialog or krunner also respects those, which is pretty nice) |
| 00:14.23 | Mathman | k, thanks |
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| 00:29.55 | mewshi | hey |
| 00:30.03 | mewshi | is there a way I can have the mixer start with kde? |
| 00:30.10 | thiago | yes |
| 00:30.15 | thiago | kmix has an option to do just that |
| 00:30.54 | mewshi | what's the option called? |
| 00:31.06 | Mathman | alright. this is bumming me out. is there no way to copy the dang address I happen to be at on konqueror? |
| 00:31.40 | doitnow | what to do when someone or someethings threatens you or intimidate you and can potentially hurt you? |
| 00:32.02 | mewshi | what's the option in kmix to have it start (with the icon in the tray) at login? |
| 00:32.06 | Mathman | hmm, or I suppose it is copied. but why won't it paste into thunderbird? |
| 00:33.23 | mewshi | what's the option in kmix to have it start (with the icon in the tray) at login? |
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| 01:08.11 | doitnow | i am embarrassed to admit it becasue it is sterio typical that would beat a woman and kill her in my cultureand she is not taking advantage of that sinc ei am such a great guy |
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| 01:29.35 | level1 | Im having trouble getting sound to work in kde 4 with phonon... I have sound in kde 3 apps but not kde 4 |
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| 01:40.20 | DCL | KDE sucks |
| 01:41.27 | thiago | and you felt you had to come in here and tell us that? |
| 01:42.01 | DCL | I just wanted to know what makes you like KDE |
| 01:42.22 | thiago | then you could've asked the question |
| 01:42.25 | level1 | DCL: how diplomatic of you |
| 01:42.31 | DCL | lol |
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| 01:43.05 | level1 | I wish I could word filter lol to haha |
| 01:43.20 | DCL | So what in your opinion makes KDE the best? |
| 01:43.29 | level1 | and all emoticons to nothing |
| 01:43.49 | thiago | powerful, consistent, source code is easy to understand (in most cases), network-transparent, cool people |
| 01:43.50 | adz21c | level1: konversation does auto replace |
| 01:44.04 | level1 | adz21c: really? where? |
| 01:44.24 | adz21c | settings -> configre konversation -> auto replace |
| 01:44.26 | DCL | I find KDE to heavy weight |
| 01:44.41 | thiago | as compared to XFCE? |
| 01:44.44 | Jucato | heavy? how? |
| 01:44.45 | thiago | or fvwm? |
| 01:44.55 | DCL | XFCE |
| 01:45.03 | Jucato | er... duh! |
| 01:45.10 | Jucato | :) |
| 01:45.10 | DCL | It takes much more ram and runs slow |
| 01:45.11 | thiago | that's to be expected |
| 01:45.26 | thiago | I wouldn't say slow, but it certainly takes up much more memory. |
| 01:45.39 | thiago | but, tell me one thing: what is XFCE's web browser? |
| 01:45.40 | level1 | DCL: thats hardly fair when KDE does more for you than XFCE |
| 01:45.41 | DCL | But if I want that, why don't I just use windows? |
| 01:45.41 | thiago | or email client? |
| 01:46.00 | thiago | please answer with the integrated ones, using the same base libraries. |
| 01:46.11 | DCL | None |
| 01:46.19 | thiago | so what do you use your XFCE desktop for? |
| 01:46.27 | Jucato | Xfce sacrifices some amount of integration and features for the sake of "lightness". It's light because it is less |
| 01:46.30 | level1 | DCL: is the only thing you want from a computer speed? What good is a computer thats just fast and doesnt have any features? |
| 01:46.36 | DCL | Everyday usage |
| 01:46.52 | DCL | I have Firefox and Sylpheed, they work fine |
| 01:46.59 | Jucato | they are not part of Xfce |
| 01:47.09 | level1 | DCL: konqueror is faster for me that Firefox... a lot faster |
| 01:47.10 | thiago | XFCE + Firefox is bound to consume more memory than KDE + Konqueror |
| 01:48.04 | DCL | Konqueror Is like Internet explorer, why merge a browser and a file manager?, Worked for M$ right? |
| 01:48.06 | Jucato | you seem not to understand what a Desktop Environment is or tries to do and why, to a certain extent, Xfce fails that |
| 01:48.10 | level1 | DCL: if you have a slow computer and speed is that important to you, maybe XFCE is the best for you. Personally, I have very good equipment, so KDE is better for me. Just personally |
| 01:48.35 | DCL | I have a Core 2 Duo E4300 |
| 01:48.55 | Jucato | DCL: Konqueror is leagues away from Internet/Windows Explorer. You can think of Konqueror as what IE should/could have been if MS did it right (which would have been almost impossible) |
| 01:48.58 | level1 | DCL: you know the nazis used ovens, right? I better stop using ovens |
| 01:49.10 | thiago | looks at the numbers |
| 01:49.11 | Jucato | lol! Core 2 Duo? |
| 01:49.17 | thiago | XFCE + Firefox uses less memory than KDE + Konq |
| 01:49.28 | thiago | by about 15 MB |
| 01:49.30 | level1 | how much memory do you have? |
| 01:49.43 | DCL | 1GB |
| 01:49.47 | DCL | Why is a C2D funny? |
| 01:49.47 | Jucato | roflmao! |
| 01:50.12 | level1 | DCL: if your having problems with speed and memory usage theres something wrong with your system |
| 01:50.25 | level1 | DCL: on linux a core 2 duo with 1GB ram should fly |
| 01:50.28 | Jucato | I'm finding your observation of KDE being slow and takes too much memory a bit funny in relation to your hardware |
| 01:50.32 | DCL | I have other systems also |
| 01:51.09 | Jucato | someone was able to run KDE 3.5 (Kubuntu in fact) on a P2 with barely 512MB RAM! |
| 01:51.38 | DCL | XFCE I run on a Pentium MMX 200Mhz with 96MB Ram |
| 01:51.42 | Jucato | and KDE (but with KWin) is the environment of choice used in Asus Eee PC. In fact, they even put Firefox and OO.o there! |
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| 01:52.22 | Jucato | that begs the question, why force software that you know isn't meant to run on such hardware? |
| 01:52.41 | DCL | It ran pretty well |
| 01:53.14 | Jucato | it's Xfce! of course it will run well on that. heck Fluxbox might even run faster! |
| 01:53.47 | DCL | XFCE has everything a Desktop Environment should |
| 01:54.09 | Jucato | er... whatever... |
| 01:54.17 | DCL | What Distro do you guys use? |
| 01:54.20 | Jucato | invites thiago to some coffee instead |
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| 02:31.12 | tech9iner | so mates.. whats our easiest to use video editor of sorts that can say rotate video files 90degrees when some foo held his camera portrait style [ahem.. as in me me |
| 02:31.45 | tech9iner | and that can convert / save as vids from *.mov to *.avi please that should be gui & suse friendly please? |
| 02:32.15 | tech9iner | still vlc/videolan do i recall? |
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| 02:32.27 | Jucato | kdenlive? |
| 02:32.29 | tech9iner | albeit vlc always seemed bit non user friendly |
| 02:32.48 | Jucato | not really sure.. |
| 02:32.49 | tech9iner | hmmm.. new app Jucato .. tx |
| 02:33.35 | Nyle | hm |
| 02:33.37 | Nyle | what now |
| 02:33.42 | Nyle | kdenlive |
| 02:33.45 | Elv1313 | Is there an easy way to port MainWindow made in QtDesigner to use KXMLGUIWindow? |
| 02:33.50 | Nyle | alright sir, googleing I do |
| 02:35.53 | tech9iner | jhcrikey.. opensuse yast package manager sees about 5 missing deps.. |
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| 03:56.32 | i0nC4nn0n | hello |
| 03:57.06 | i0nC4nn0n | is it just me or is kmail really really slow with gmail's disconnected imap? |
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| 04:24.38 | Shirakawasuna | Is there a way to make Qt apps follow KDE tooltip configurations? Whenever I use a light text color + darker windows, the tooltips on Qt apps are unreadable (white text on offwhite tooltips), while KDE's are just fine. |
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| 04:33.46 | LaVitaBella | Hello, can somebody help me please where can i find the IRC Logs of kopete? |
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| 04:44.09 | drantin | LaVitaBella: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs ? |
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| 04:50.43 | mi | ah ...i try azureus widget in kde4 ...not working :( |
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| 04:54.15 | drantin | mi: ktorrent, or an actual azureus widget? |
| 04:54.51 | mi | dashboard widget in kde4 for azureus |
| 04:55.09 | drantin | url? |
| 04:55.15 | mi | wait |
| 04:55.27 | mi | http://www.downloadsquad.com/2005/07/15/azureus-bittorrent-dashboard-widget/ |
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| 04:55.44 | mi | great widget |
| 04:56.18 | drantin | ...kde4 takes macos x widgets? |
| 04:56.24 | Jucato | it's a Mac OS X dashboard widget |
| 04:56.28 | mi | yes |
| 04:56.38 | Jucato | and until 4.1, Plasma doesn't support OS X dashboards yet |
| 04:57.13 | mi | i try few wigdets ... 10 % is working |
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| 04:57.32 | Jucato | it's a WIP of course |
| 04:57.48 | Jucato | you can probably try asking in #plasma (but it's mostly a dev channel, so...) |
| 04:57.55 | Jucato | WIP = work in progress |
| 04:58.28 | mi | Jucato: yes i read about that ...tq |
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| 05:11.49 | mi | 4.00.69 looks great |
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| 05:17.00 | logixoul | Hm... does anyone else have the feeling icon margins in Dolphin are weird? I'm at the smallest margin setting but my eyes just can't move easily from icon to icon... |
| 05:18.22 | mi | 3.5.9? |
| 05:18.33 | logixoul | 4.0.69 |
| 05:18.51 | mi | no here is ok |
| 05:20.40 | logixoul | aha |
| 05:22.02 | mi | http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/898/snapshot4ym4.png |
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| 05:25.50 | logixoul | mi, due to grouping, in your screenie not much of the margins are visible. try disabling grouping. |
| 05:26.39 | mi | and? |
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| 05:27.51 | mi | i have here nvidia 8800 ultra ...so ...:) |
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| 05:28.33 | logixoul | mi, I'm just asking if the margins look weird to you. ;) |
| 05:29.10 | mi | no ...everything is ok here |
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| 05:30.33 | mi | i have only problem with bespin style |
| 05:30.48 | mi | i can't open gtk apps |
| 05:33.08 | logixoul | mi, are you using gtk-kde4? |
| 05:33.19 | mi | yes |
| 05:33.44 | mi | i try bespin from hardy repo and try 2 compile |
| 05:33.48 | mi | same bug |
| 05:34.26 | logixoul | mi: you can disable gtk-kde4 and get an oxygenish gtk style instead |
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| 05:34.55 | mi | oxygen works nice with gtk apps |
| 05:35.00 | mi | but bespin no |
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| 05:35.24 | Jucato | you'll have to contact the dev (or comment in his kde-look.org page for bespin) |
| 05:36.05 | mi | Jucato: i think this is problem with hardy because 20 days ago bespin works nice |
| 05:36.48 | Jucato | mi: not only hardy, it might also be bespin, which is also a WIP. you can try asking in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-kde4 for assistance |
| 05:38.28 | mi | i report this 10 days ago ....no1 knows |
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| 05:39.15 | mi | never mind ... |
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| 06:37.52 | MrWGW- | I'm using KDE 4 on OpenSUSE, and its failing to start, complaining that kdeinit cannot launch |
| 06:37.54 | MrWGW- | suggestions? |
| 06:38.24 | MrWGW- | the people in Suse don't seem to know how to reinstall it, if you know hte name of a base package I could uninstall to tear the rest out, that would probably work-I could then reinstall from the Yast meta package |
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| 06:40.22 | gokcen | hi |
| 06:40.35 | MrWGW- | hi |
| 06:41.23 | gokcen | i am looking for a way to tracking child process' termination signal using KProcess |
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| 06:42.29 | nick01 | hi- anybody knows what causes these errors trying to connect with ksirc http://rafb.net/p/AYUJfB78.html ? |
| 06:42.31 | gokcen | is it possible to use KProcess for this purpose? or should I do something different |
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| 06:47.22 | MrWGW- | alas, I'm manually tearing it out, package by package |
| 06:47.43 | blauzahl | ksirc is unmaintained, last i knew |
| 06:48.12 | MrWGW- | blauzahl? really? |
| 06:48.15 | MrWGW- | is joining kde dev |
| 06:48.27 | MrWGW- | #kde-devel rather |
| 06:48.44 | blauzahl | really. |
| 06:48.47 | blauzahl | #konversation ;) |
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| 06:49.06 | Jucato | MrWGW-: it's unmaintained and was removed from kdenetwork |
| 06:49.29 | MrWGW- | interesting |
| 06:49.51 | MrWGW- | I used both it and ksirc |
| 06:50.05 | Jucato | is referring to ksirc of course |
| 06:50.12 | MrWGW- | right |
| 06:50.22 | MrWGW- | I can't remember the differences too clearly |
| 06:50.35 | MrWGW- | also IIRc kopete also supports IRC |
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| 06:51.52 | nick01 | so no way to get it to work (ksirc)? can't figure out what the heck that error means |
| 06:52.17 | blauzahl | nick01: you could take over the software ;) |
| 06:52.47 | nick01 | :| lol but are you saying it's broken and it won't work or it's just something on my system ? |
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| 06:53.30 | MrWGW- | hopes this time he can get KDevelop to work |
| 06:53.33 | Jucato | it may or may not be broken. unmaintained just means that 1. if it's broken, it's unlikely to get fixed or 2. it might be extremely hard to get support for it |
| 06:54.05 | MrWGW- | Jucato, would there be any point in maintainence for ksirc being resumed? |
| 06:54.08 | Jucato | http://websvn.kde.org/tags/unmaintained/4/ksirc <--- |
| 06:54.37 | MrWGW- | I actually personally dislike all IRC clients except for LimeChat, which is sadly OS X only |
| 06:54.38 | Jucato | any point? dunno. I personally prefer Konversation and would prefer that IRC efforts would be focused there... but I'm biased :P |
| 06:54.51 | MrWGW- | since the Ruby dev who wrote it made the mistake of using Ruby Cocoa |
| 06:55.08 | Jucato | if you're interested enough to take up maintainership of ksirc, why not. just don't drop it like a hot potato :) |
| 06:56.11 | MrWGW- | well I *might* |
| 06:56.15 | MrWGW- | I'd need to see the code et cetera |
| 06:56.22 | MrWGW- | if its some byzantine nightmare, forget it |
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| 06:56.52 | MrWGW- | frankly, I doubt my C++ skills are good enough though, but hey, I might as well take a look |
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| 07:05.06 | MrWGW- | bbl |
| 07:05.10 | MrWGW- | testing KDE4 install |
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| 07:06.23 | MrWGW- | well KDE 4 at least is working properly |
| 07:07.17 | nick01 | MrWGW-, ksirc doesn't work over there either ? |
| 07:08.14 | MrWGW- | I have no idea...I don't have Qt3 installed or the KDE 3 libs, so it probably wouldn't |
| 07:08.44 | nick01 | k |
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| 07:11.22 | bmf | is there any good window decoration theme for small resolutions (ie. 1024x768 / 800x600)? |
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| 07:12.23 | Jucato | Plastik :) |
| 07:12.55 | bmf | yeah, but it's titlebar is soo big :) |
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| 07:31.13 | VaX13 | Hi. Anyone know where I can find the icon that Kopete uses in it's contact list ? (the generic avatar) |
| 07:31.35 | nevyn | which one? |
| 07:31.55 | VaX13 | the blue head |
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| 08:04.12 | VaX13 | So anyone know where the Kopete icons are ? |
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| 08:14.45 | heymr | I'm trying to install themes... |
| 08:15.02 | heymr | how can I install a bundle of stuff? |
| 08:15.05 | heymr | what goes where? |
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| 08:15.51 | heymr | hmm? |
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| 08:16.24 | heymr | for example |
| 08:16.35 | heymr | i'm trying to install kollide |
| 08:16.53 | heymr | what is the extension for a kde color theme? |
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| 08:18.42 | dim | hi |
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| 08:18.58 | dim | where does kaudiocreator output the (here .flac) encoded files? |
| 08:20.02 | pinotree | dim: settings → configure kaudiocreator → extractor → flac → output position |
| 08:22.31 | dim | oh yes found |
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| 08:30.13 | knoppix | aloha |
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| 08:35.18 | PlasmaHH | hi, with kde3 is there a way to let it randomly chose among the installed screensavers but leave out a few? |
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| 08:57.08 | wschlich | once again |
| 08:57.09 | wschlich | I'll try it once again: once I connected a bluetooth USB stick to my laptop, then I started kbluetooth. then I stopped it and chose "do not start" on next logon. unfortunately, it's always started, no matter what I chose on exit. how can I make it not start? |
| 08:57.14 | wschlich | hehe |
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| 09:00.18 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: hm, dont plug in the usb stick? |
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| 09:01.04 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: it gets started on logon, no matter what I do, that means, everytime I get an error dialog box saying "unable to start kbluetooth, no device found" (usually I don't have the bt stick plugged in) |
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| 09:01.32 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: are you maybe always starting a previously manually saved session? |
| 09:01.49 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: I even chose "start a new session" in the session manager in the control center -- no luck |
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| 09:02.49 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: I'm almost about to rm -rf ~/.kde* :((((( that sucks... |
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| 09:03.00 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: and is windoze-style. |
| 09:03.05 | PlasmaHH | *shrug* no idea then. you might want to have a look at your .kde files, grep -ri kbluetooth or so... |
| 09:03.16 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: no result. |
| 09:03.25 | PlasmaHH | huh? |
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| 09:04.04 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: the grep yields no relevant results |
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| 09:04.45 | PlasmaHH | maybe those where you thought are not relevant are... you might want to temporarily rename your .kde and look what happens |
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| 09:07.19 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: I'm sure the problem will be "gone", but that's not the way I want it to solve. |
| 09:08.01 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: if it's the only way to solve it, KDE would be on my list of "never again" applications, I don't think that's a good solution. |
| 09:08.12 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: ok then, you dont want to solve it by figuring out whats causing it in the .kde dir.. then I dont know what else to help |
| 09:08.52 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: wrong. |
| 09:09.16 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: oh, so what else do I know to help? if you already know, you dont even need to ask ! |
| 09:09.45 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: starting a KDE session "from scratch" by "mv ~/.kde ~/foo" doesn't make me figure out *what* in .kde is causing it, or do I miss something?? |
| 09:10.34 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: so you know for sure that it really is something in .kde that is causing this? |
| 09:10.47 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: I mean, putting my car into the garage and buying a new car doesn't make me find out what's wrong with the old one. |
| 09:11.13 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: but it makes you figure out that also the new car can't fly |
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| 09:16.05 | Ketrel | Can anyone here help me with a kwifimanager problem? |
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| 09:21.05 | _lemma | Ketrel: just go ahead and ask the question. if someone can answer it he/she will probably pick it up |
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| 09:22.12 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: ok, you got me :o) |
| 09:22.19 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: added a new user, kbluetooth error... |
| 09:22.32 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: I mean, added a new user, loggin in as that new user, got the kbluetooth error dialog. |
| 09:22.56 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: so your new car can't fly ! ;) |
| 09:23.03 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: a'ight. |
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| 09:24.08 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: so, what's next? :) |
| 09:24.56 | Ketrel | When I use kwifimanager, I do not get an IP address. I was able to manually fix this by using the comman "dhclient eth1" And I think I can have that as a script, but I have to sudo to use that command. What are my options for getting this to work? |
| 09:25.08 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: buy a plane? *g* |
| 09:25.45 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: arg :) |
| 09:26.34 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: seriously... check what files are in your distros package that provides kbluetooth and if you can find any traces of a global startup there, and maybe some hints on how to prevent that |
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| 09:29.07 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: ~/.kde/share/config/kdebluetoothrc and kbluetoothrc both have autostart=yes entries... argh |
| 09:29.19 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: just removed those to see what happens |
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| 09:29.33 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: what really disturbs me is that the autostart also happens for new users |
| 09:29.42 | LockeVendetta | hi, do you know what package makes the gtk application became like the qt ones (in KDE4)? |
| 09:29.46 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: /etc/skel et el? |
| 09:30.06 | PlasmaHH | wschlich: Id rather try setting it to false, if the autostart default if not present is yes ;) |
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| 09:33.42 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: the default seems yes :) |
| 09:33.49 | PlasmaHH | hehe |
| 09:34.16 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: how goddamn braindead |
| 09:34.27 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: for anyone who does not have a builtin bt adapter |
| 09:34.45 | PlasmaHH | yi |
| 09:34.47 | PlasmaHH | p |
| 09:35.00 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: oh fun! even with Autostart=false, it starts |
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| 09:35.08 | PlasmaHH | lol |
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| 09:35.13 | wschlich | and is reset to true |
| 09:35.16 | wschlich | GODDAMNIT |
| 09:35.16 | PlasmaHH | thats fun |
| 09:35.18 | wschlich | sorry. |
| 09:35.34 | wschlich | ~/.kde/share/config/kbluetoothrc |
| 09:35.44 | wschlich | [General]\nAutoStart=true |
| 09:35.47 | PlasmaHH | I prefer "for fucks sake" |
| 09:35.52 | wschlich | when I change it to false, it gets reset to true |
| 09:36.03 | PlasmaHH | maybe some global config will do it |
| 09:36.40 | wschlich | ah! |
| 09:36.50 | wschlich | /usr/share/autostart/kbluetooth.autostart.desktop |
| 09:36.53 | wschlich | gnaaaaa |
| 09:37.10 | wschlich | I want to hit someone, hit him hard |
| 09:37.12 | wschlich | ... |
| 09:37.18 | wschlich | :> |
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| 09:37.30 | PlasmaHH | hehe |
| 09:39.05 | wschlich | PlasmaHH: seems like I can circumvent it with kbluetoothdrc (notice the 'd') containing [General]\nAutoStart=true |
| 09:39.08 | wschlich | sick |
| 09:39.43 | wschlich | YES! |
| 09:39.45 | wschlich | that's it |
| 09:40.08 | wschlich | I'm off, celebrating half a year of "clicking away" kbluetoothd error dialog windows. |
| 09:40.14 | wschlich | thanks PlasmaHH |
| 09:41.27 | wschlich | ciao a tutti ;) |
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| 09:42.18 | LockeVendetta | do you know a shortcut to minimize all the windows (in KDE4)? |
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| 09:42.33 | kuiper | newbie kde programming question: I downloaded the source for kdegraphics-3.5.8, to try and fix something that bothers me about the kview program. I've never done this sort of thing, so I tried starting small. When no image is loaded in kview, it says (surprise) "no image loaded", at the top. so, I grepped for all instances of that phrase, found and altered all three. configured and did a make -- FAIL. why would something so simple not work :D? |
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| 09:43.41 | kuiper | by "fail", I mean everything build fine, but it still said "no image loaded", which was unexpected, as the code seems fairly simple, and one would think the bits I changed would have some effect on that |
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| 09:49.40 | Ketrel | I got kwifimanger "working" in that I connect to the access point, and I get an IP. I can ping sites, but I can't load anything. |
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| 09:51.35 | aLone | hy, i need bugs, if u have, pm me, thx friend |
| 09:51.43 | blauzahl | kuiper: #kde-devel might work better |
| 09:51.57 | kuiper | blauzahl, tyvm |
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| 09:57.17 | Zarin | Completely unrelated to KDE but would anyone here just happen to know if 6-bit LCDs dither on an XY or time plane? |
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| 09:58.09 | pinotree | right completely unrelated → offtopic |
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| 09:58.44 | Zarin | Fair enough |
| 09:59.08 | jpatrick | Zarin: maybe ##hardware? |
| 09:59.39 | Zarin | Ahuh, didn't know of that channel. Thanks jpatrick |
| 10:00.04 | jpatrick | Zarin: you're welcome :) |
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| 10:22.29 | Kebianizao|work | Hello |
| 10:22.39 | jpatrick | Kebianizao|work: hey! |
| 10:22.58 | Kebianizao|work | does anyone knows of a simple microphone recodring app, like krec but which would actually work |
| 10:23.03 | Kebianizao|work | jpatrick: ;) |
| 10:23.30 | Kebianizao|work | jpatrick: you chasing me? or is it the other way round? :P |
| 10:24.48 | Kebianizao|work | jpatrick: what's that? |
| 10:24.55 | Kebianizao|work | is not registered |
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| 11:47.44 | soa2ii | Hi there. How can I compile projects in KDevelop without arts-support? |
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| 11:52.17 | Kebianizao|work | soa2ii: what do you mean? |
| 11:53.17 | soa2ii | Kebianizao|work: I try to start KDE developing... I do not have arts installed here and if I now compile the KDevelop example it says I shall compile it with --without-arts. |
| 11:53.28 | soa2ii | I don't know how I do that. |
| 11:54.21 | frogonwheels | soa2ii: that sounds like a ./configure option |
| 11:54.34 | Kebianizao|work | soa2ii: add that option to the ./configure execution |
| 11:54.50 | soa2ii | I'll see... |
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| 11:56.50 | soa2ii | Kebianizao|work: Do I have to run configure or is that a file? |
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| 12:03.31 | Kebianizao|work | soa2ii: you need to run configure with that flag |
| 12:03.53 | Kebianizao|work | usually there's a configuration option for the project where you specify the configure flags |
| 12:04.05 | soa2ii | Kebianizao|work: Ahh... let's see |
| 12:04.13 | Kebianizao|work | fill that and then choose the option run automake and friends if I remember correctly |
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| 12:10.34 | kexman | hi |
| 12:10.47 | kexman | can i somehow make another user with the same settings (KDE) that the other has ? |
| 12:10.52 | kexman | and not just kde but other stuff |
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| 12:10.57 | kexman | pidgin mozilla etc etc etc ? |
| 12:11.05 | kexman | make a template or something |
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| 12:32.52 | LockeVendetta | does anyone knows a shortcut to minimize all the windows? |
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| 12:34.36 | Waheedi | anyone knows when kde desktop crashed what should i do |
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| 12:34.43 | Jucato | LockeVendetta: not exactly "minimize" but "Show desktop": Ctrl+Alt+D |
| 12:34.55 | Waheedi | the whole desktop is not there i can just move on running applications |
| 12:35.05 | Waheedi | and the start panel is not there |
| 12:35.18 | Jucato | KDE 3? |
| 12:35.22 | Waheedi | kde 4 |
| 12:35.30 | Waheedi | on fedora 9 |
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| 12:35.33 | Jucato | hm.. can you get to a Konsole window? |
| 12:35.37 | Waheedi | yeah |
| 12:35.45 | Jucato | run "plasma &" |
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| 12:36.29 | Waheedi | <unknown program name>(7304)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x1cc9f50 27262977 |
| 12:36.29 | Waheedi | <unknown program name>(7304)/ checkComposite: Plasma can use COMPOSITE for effects on 0x1cc2ea0 |
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| 12:36.45 | Jucato | hm... |
| 12:37.29 | Waheedi | yeah |
| 12:37.59 | Jucato | what was the last thing you did before Plasma (the desktop + panel) crashed? |
| 12:38.18 | Waheedi | hmm i just strated Kget |
| 12:38.27 | Waheedi | i added it as a widget into the desktop |
| 12:38.45 | Waheedi | and when i deleted it the desktop crashed |
| 12:39.19 | Waheedi | and always when i start the kde session i got an bug saying something about plasma studio crashed |
| 12:39.27 | Waheedi | and it restart it again and it works |
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| 12:39.39 | Waheedi | but i dnt know why all these stuff are happening |
| 12:40.04 | Waheedi | i thought it something with fedora 9 bcoz it still under beta release |
| 12:40.30 | Waheedi | but it seems not bcoz the are no bugs under gnome Env |
| 12:40.35 | Waheedi | there * |
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| 12:40.49 | Waheedi | brb 5 min |
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| 13:10.26 | meyerm | Hi, can anybody give me a short hint (I'll read the manual for myself after knowing what's the right stuff to use ;-) ) what I could use for displaying "something" (f.ex. a half transparent bitmap) on top of another widget which is the output window for another process? Currently I'm using a QLabel and giving its win-id to an enslaved mplayer-process to display a video. Now I'd like to overlay a status-bitmap (png or sth.) on top of the video. Qt |
| 13:10.26 | meyerm | 4.3 or if sensible also 4.4. :-) |
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| 13:11.27 | Jucato | Hint: #qt is probably the better channel for this :) |
| 13:11.44 | PhilRod | or #kde-devel |
| 13:12.10 | Jucato | or that :) |
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| 13:26.45 | LockeVendetta | Jucato: that shortcut doesn't work we me :/ |
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| 13:29.24 | Jucato | LockeVendetta: KDE 4? |
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| 13:32.49 | Andrew`` | hi all |
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| 13:38.01 | lfranchi | hi Andrew`` |
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| 13:39.13 | Andrew`` | hey lfranchi I was going to ask about k3b but I realise that its almost midnight here and I need my beauty sleep. I will ask again inthe morning |
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| 13:39.40 | lfranchi | ok |
| 13:39.41 | lfranchi | night |
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| 13:44.35 | Kebianizao|work | kexman: you should look for each app configuration. For kde it is on ~/.kde/share/{apps,config} |
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| 13:47.44 | LockeVendetta | Jucato: KDE 4.0.2 |
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| 13:47.59 | Jucato | LockeVendetta: Ctrl+F12 then |
| 13:49.21 | Fish-Face | Oh yeah, if I press Ctrl+F12 with firefox up, then the screen just goes white. |
| 13:49.36 | LockeVendetta | Jucato: thanks, do you have an idea why i don't have any link to the systemsettings in the K Menu? (i've a compiled version of KDE, not a package |
| 13:49.40 | Fish-Face | Oh |
| 13:49.42 | Fish-Face | Now it's stopped |
| 13:49.44 | Fish-Face | ignore me |
| 13:50.02 | Jucato | LockeVendetta: not really sure |
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| 13:53.15 | LockeVendetta | Fish-Face: i don't have that kind a problem. it works just fine |
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| 13:57.39 | cb400f | LockeVendetta: is that really the biggest problem you have with 4.0? |
| 13:57.45 | kexman | Kebianizao|work: so you say copy over the stuff with the . ? :) and that is it Kebianizao|work ? |
| 13:58.31 | cb400f | LockeVendetta: maybe it's called something else? .. in opensuse it's called "personal settings" with description "configure desktop" |
| 13:59.19 | cb400f | LockeVendetta: if it's so important you could add the menu entry yourself with kmenuedit |
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| 14:04.23 | LockeVendetta | cb400f: no, that's not my biggest problem, but it something that by default should appear to a user. and no, i've checked other possibles names and there aren't any. by the way i would add systemsettings to the kmenu with kmenu edit if (like in KDE3 series) the right click button worked as an option to edit the kmenu |
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| 14:07.30 | DirkGently | LockeVendetta: it's been added since 4.03 |
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| 14:08.54 | LockeVendetta | DirkGently: thanks |
| 14:09.32 | Kebianizao|work | kexman: I think, so but try first, backup destination data |
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| 14:15.27 | kexman | Kebianizao|work: destination data = new user :) |
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| 14:15.30 | Unr3a1 | hey all |
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| 14:15.48 | Kebianizao|work | kexman: y |
| 14:15.50 | kexman | Kebianizao|work: i would like all new users to have the same settings as the user i am using now |
| 14:15.57 | kexman | can i do that ? |
| 14:17.12 | Unr3a1 | how do I transfer colors and themes from one user on my computer to the other? |
| 14:17.36 | kexman | Unr3a1: we are in the same boat, almost |
| 14:18.13 | Unr3a1 | yea |
| 14:18.13 | Kebianizao|work | kexman: then share your knowledge ;) |
| 14:18.19 | Unr3a1 | I want my other user's desktop and interface to look exactly like the one I am using now |
| 14:18.58 | Kebianizao|work | kexman: sortof, but that's not that easy. I think you need to change default user prefs skeleton which are on /usr/share and/or /etc/kde3 usually (Debian system) |
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| 14:19.31 | kexman | using gentoo here |
| 14:19.37 | kexman | well ill try to go with one user first :) |
| 14:19.49 | kexman | then if that works out i can try with the skeleton change too |
| 14:20.38 | kexman | Unr3a1: you could copy the .kde directory from your homedir to the other machine. but that will change alot of stuff. and the themes i dont know if they will go with it |
| 14:20.51 | kexman | not a big kde user myself. /me = newbie :) |
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| 14:24.51 | dwins | Unr3a1: you can export a theme from KDE's theme manager and then import it as the second user |
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| 14:26.08 | Unr3a1 | I didnt see an option to export the theme or colors |
| 14:26.53 | Unr3a1 | I only see Install new theme, remove theme, and create theme |
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| 14:28.14 | Unr3a1 | just like I dont see where color schemes are saved |
| 14:28.24 | dwins | Unr3a1: 'create theme' does what you want |
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| 14:30.57 | Unr3a1 | dwins, and this will make my other account look exactly like my current one? |
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| 14:31.24 | dwins | it won't copy your data, but themewise yes |
| 14:31.40 | Unr3a1 | and the color scheme as well? |
| 14:31.58 | Unr3a1 | sorry, I just want to make sure I get everything |
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| 14:32.07 | Unr3a1 | I apologize for asking so many questions like a n00b |
| 14:33.07 | Unr3a1 | ok, let me try this out |
| 14:33.08 | Unr3a1 | brb |
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| 14:36.17 | unr3a1 | it worked... |
| 14:36.18 | unr3a1 | thanks |
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| 14:37.36 | unr3a1 | dwins - thanks, dude |
| 14:37.41 | unr3a1 | it worked perfectly |
| 14:37.44 | dwins | :) |
| 14:38.06 | unr3a1 | I just made the jump to full on Linux last week |
| 14:38.20 | unr3a1 | I have been weening myself off of Windows for the last four years |
| 14:38.39 | unr3a1 | weaning* I think I meant to say |
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| 14:39.18 | unr3a1 | Windows is only allowed 7 gigs on my hard drive now. |
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| 14:40.05 | unr3a1 | well, I am outtie |
| 14:40.06 | unr3a1 | thanks again |
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| 14:42.41 | MarcC-backroom | how do you manually save a KDE session? |
| 14:43.14 | dwins | MarcC-backroom: if you have set the session manager not to autosave on logout, there will be an option in the K menu to do so |
| 14:43.30 | dwins | suspects you can do it via DCOP as well |
| 14:43.41 | MarcC-backroom | cool, I hadn't noticed that, thanks dwin |
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| 15:30.37 | sabayonlive-1582 | does anyone know the IEEE driver commands for a newly installed pci card? |
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| 15:50.37 | alx54 | eerm anybody know how to make strigi keep its index? i dont want to index my whole disk before searching everytime =( |
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| 15:54.38 | PhilRod | alx54: if no one here knows, try #strigi |
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| 15:55.28 | szymon_g | hi |
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| 15:56.08 | alx54 | philrod thanks, i already asked there but no one in there =) |
| 15:57.09 | szymon_g | could you tell me which program has control over kmix? i mean: i wanna set volume and i wanna use for it my fn + arrows keys. i know i can use xbindkeys, but i would rather prefer to use kde-application for it. any idea what is the name of it? |
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| 15:58.10 | Jucato | szymon_g: why not use KMix's Configure Global Shortcuts? |
| 15:58.30 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts |
| 15:59.40 | fdoving | so, can anyone tell me how to configure strigi to not eat 2x100% cpu and become usefull? - this is kde4.devel (trunk). |
| 16:00.20 | fdoving | kinf of annoying to have a 4G index of everything and the only thing it does is eat more cpu. can i search this index in kde4 somwhere? - i haven't seen anywhere yet. |
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| 16:02.38 | szymon_g | Jucato: i'm afraid, but when i wanna set those shortcuts it doesnt see keys pressed |
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| 16:03.18 | Jucato | fdoving: #strigi ? :) |
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| 16:03.40 | fdoving | Jucato: i figured they didn't care where #kde uses it's features? :) |
| 16:04.03 | Jucato | fdoving: heh I just haven't figured out yet how to use the whole nepomuk/strigi thing :) |
| 16:04.10 | fdoving | Jucato: i belive strigi is doing its job, it's indexing alot :) |
| 16:04.33 | Jucato | well indexes are useless if you don't know how to search it :) |
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| 16:05.54 | fdoving | Jucato: well, there is strigiclient, but as strigi is something kde4 depends on, i would assume it is used somewhere. |
| 16:06.10 | Jucato | would have thought kfind would have it. but doesn't seem to |
| 16:06.41 | mnoir | in kde3.5 what is the simplest way to make kate execute a syntax check on the php file file I am editing. I do not want to write the file yet and I want to see the output of php -l 'theFileiAmEditing' |
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| 16:10.16 | Phlogi | anyone has an idea why I'm unable to run certain apps with alt-f2 runner? It works from console though. |
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| 16:10.41 | PhilRod | different environment? |
| 16:12.12 | mnoir | Phlogi: are they terminal dependent? - turn on run in terminal after pressing alt-f2(options) to see |
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| 16:15.05 | Fish-Face | Hey, is it possible to get the desktop to actually reflect the desktop folder... rather than just having widgets corresponding to the files in there |
| 16:15.09 | Phlogi | mnoir: thanks |
| 16:15.16 | mnoir | :) |
| 16:15.27 | Fish-Face | i.e. I don't really want to have to go into dolphin to delete the files on the desktop... that's why I put them there. |
| 16:15.35 | Phlogi | mnoir: of course that works, but I don't want to see that terminal :) |
| 16:15.43 | Phlogi | even firefox does not work with alt-f2 here |
| 16:15.51 | mnoir | then write code that doesnt need the terminal |
| 16:16.03 | mnoir | ff doesn't work? |
| 16:16.07 | Phlogi | mnoir: why should I write code? You mean to start? |
| 16:16.11 | Phlogi | jap ff |
| 16:16.18 | Phlogi | suddenly it stopped working |
| 16:16.30 | Phlogi | doing from a .desktop shortcut works though |
| 16:16.42 | Phlogi | created that silly shortcut only because of that fact |
| 16:16.49 | mnoir | works for me from alt-f2 |
| 16:16.54 | Phlogi | I know :) |
| 16:17.06 | Phlogi | it works for everyone, and did so for me some time ago |
| 16:17.20 | mnoir | try executing firefod > /tmp/firefoxlog and read what ends up in that file |
| 16:17.30 | mnoir | firefod = firefox :) |
| 16:18.00 | Phlogi | wow at least it seems to save the terminal setting :) |
| 16:18.00 | mnoir | sry firefod > /tmp/firefoxlog 2>&1 is the right line i think |
| 16:18.15 | Phlogi | i did that :D |
| 16:18.21 | mnoir | and fod STILL = fox :) |
| 16:18.25 | Phlogi | for antother app (maltab) its empty |
| 16:18.51 | mnoir | but maltab won't run from alt-f2? |
| 16:19.05 | Phlogi | hmm funny works now with ff |
| 16:19.21 | mnoir | hmm - earthquakes? |
| 16:19.27 | mnoir | wild goats? |
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| 16:25.27 | Phlogi | mnoir: lets try again |
| 16:25.50 | Phlogi | it works with that log thing |
| 16:25.53 | Phlogi | but not without it |
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| 16:26.15 | Phlogi | fix: firefox 2>&1>/dev/null |
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| 16:27.09 | Phlogi | mnoir: but not for matlab |
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| 16:39.44 | mnoir | the log thing is just to test. I do not like throwing away messages in general... |
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| 16:40.04 | mnoir | matlab must have some need for the terminal that I do not understand |
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| 16:40.40 | ohnose | why does killing dcopserver also kill all KDE apps? |
| 16:41.06 | ohnose | that's rather annoying; I don't want to crash all apps just because a single app misbehaves |
| 16:41.36 | szymon_g | is wondering that kde/qt has something similar to gtk's Zenity :? |
| 16:41.42 | szymon_g | *about |
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| 16:43.21 | thiago | you have to be more specific about that |
| 16:43.23 | thiago | what is Zenity |
| 16:43.23 | thiago | ? |
| 16:43.49 | tremby | zenity is a program which can pop up dialogs such as errors, save as and so on |
| 16:43.59 | tremby | for instance, try zenity --info --text="message box" |
| 16:44.04 | thiago | kdialog |
| 16:45.00 | tremby | zenity is probably the gnome equivalent of kdialog |
| 16:45.00 | mnoir | Phlogi: also, 2>&1>/dev/null is not identical to > /dev/null 2>&1 I do not remember the exact difference, but it is worth trying my syntax... |
| 16:45.44 | tremby | thiago: yeah i'm right -- zenity is for GTK what kdialog is for KDE |
| 16:46.00 | szymon_g | thiago: o, tremby was faster than i |
| 16:46.02 | szymon_g | kdialog? |
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| 16:48.29 | tremby | i'm running KDE 3.5.8. the mute button on my keyboard is running kmix's mute command. if kmix isn't running, kmix starts and then executes the mute command. i don't want this (i want another program to capture the mute button), but can't find where it's set up. it's not in the keyboard shortcuts part of kcontrol, nor in kmix's preferences (everything in kmix's global shortcuts is blank). |
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| 18:04.36 | tremby | the first time i ever tried to use IRC i was asking similar questions and got completely ignored. i spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong. |
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| 18:05.57 | icwiener | What do I have to do to have Flow Control disabled in Konsole in KDE 4.0.68? The configure option is grayed out. |
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| 18:47.37 | sredna | nedd1: no |
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| 18:53.28 | drantin | 4.0.3 that is... |
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| 19:17.11 | Kernel | hello all. is there a ktorrent channel? |
| 19:17.16 | Kernel | or can i ask here? |
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| 19:17.41 | Skrot- | Just ask here |
| 19:17.41 | pinotree | "don't ask to ask, just ask" |
| 19:19.38 | Kernel | ok :) |
| 19:20.06 | Kernel | im wondering if i can have the upnp in ktorrent forward a raondom port each time. |
| 19:20.42 | Kernel | having a random port each time ktorrent is started would be sweet. |
| 19:21.41 | Kernel | right now i just have a port forwarded manualy and it is set in there. |
| 19:22.10 | Kernel | i know utorrent offers this feature and it would be cool to see it in ktorrent(if its not already in it) |
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| 19:31.13 | Kernel | hmm wonder if it would be possible to change the port varibles in the config file on each start to a random port# |
| 19:31.50 | mike_jh | Folks, I have two monitors with an NVvida card doing hardware multipliexing, so KDE sees just one big screen. It is possible to make a full screen window only fill one screen by default and drag it to fill both if I so desire? |
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| 19:45.40 | xevixlaptop | anyone know of a digital logic circuit designing program made in Qt, maybe a KDE app? |
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| 19:46.46 | aggelidis | xevixlaptop: if you want you can try describing your circuit in a language like verilog |
| 19:47.26 | aggelidis | also i am sure that companies like mentorgraphics have programs for circuit design {for unix} |
| 19:47.37 | aggelidis | but i dont think that they are affordable |
| 19:48.08 | xevixlaptop | aggelidis: ah, ye, which is why i was looking for a free one |
| 19:48.13 | xevixlaptop | i saw klogic |
| 19:48.26 | xevixlaptop | but it was made for kde 3.1, and it doesn't work very well, and the code is a bit hard to work with |
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| 19:49.58 | xevixlaptop | hmmm |
| 19:50.05 | xevixlaptop | maybe i can get a group of people together to make one |
| 19:50.16 | xevixlaptop | it's too much to do by myself =p |
| 19:52.07 | fyanardi | xevixlaptop: maybe you can search in kde-apps |
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| 19:52.16 | fyanardi | have you tried ktechlab, btw? |
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| 19:54.53 | xevixlaptop | fyanardi: i have not, i'll look at it now, thanks |
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| 19:55.02 | phoenixz | Anything known about updates to adept / maybe new version of it that actually make it stable? Adept crashes in *many* predictable situations.. |
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| 19:55.32 | fyanardi | xevixlaptop: welcome ;) |
| 19:56.05 | xevixlaptop | it has some of the things i want |
| 19:56.15 | xevixlaptop | vccs, ground... |
| 19:56.37 | xevixlaptop | ok, i'll try installing it and play around a bit |
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| 19:56.44 | xevixlaptop | it seems to be above and beyond what i'm seeking =p |
| 19:56.49 | xevixlaptop | the idea is that this program would be used for a class of mine |
| 19:56.56 | fyanardi | xevixlaptop: it was almost dead, but some people tried to revive it |
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| 19:57.35 | fyanardi | xevixlaptop: you're going to use it as a demo program? |
| 19:57.43 | xevixlaptop | ah no, as a replacement |
| 19:57.57 | xevixlaptop | our current program is: windows only, very buggy |
| 19:58.40 | fyanardi | ah i see |
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| 20:00.20 | xevixlaptop | i'm compiling ktechlab now, i hope it has what i need more or less |
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| 20:00.37 | xevixlaptop | i don't have time to program anything serious until summer =p |
| 20:00.48 | xevixlaptop | unless i can get into ktechlab if needed |
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| 20:02.13 | fyanardi | you might also be interested in this: http://qucs.sourceforge.net/, a bit more complicated though |
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| 20:02.57 | xevixlaptop | i'll have a look |
| 20:03.20 | xevixlaptop | looks like it's being actively dev'ed |
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| 20:04.18 | fyanardi | seems so |
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| 20:04.44 | xevixlaptop | ah, so i have 2 candidate projects to look into =) |
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| 20:05.37 | fyanardi | nice, one is KDE/Qt and one is pure Qt :) |
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| 20:10.39 | zerge | is there a way to make the kde menu sections to expand to the left? I got my kde panel on the right, and when the sections expand over the menu itself it annoys me (3.5) |
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| 20:11.48 | lazybunz | Hi, I'm trying to developt a multi-platform app, and I was wondering if there is a list of how KDE expands on Qt. |
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| 20:12.09 | lazybunz | I know that Qt is multi-platform and have created some Windows apps with Qt, but I'm not sure how KDE would change all that. |
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| 20:20.32 | xevixlaptop | fyanardi: i think ktechlab might be a good candidate, but now i have to figure out how to make a basic circuit =p |
| 20:20.59 | sandsmark | qucs is very nice |
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| 20:27.39 | fyanardi | xevixlaptop: glad to hear that |
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| 20:28.47 | xevixlaptop | ah, got it |
| 20:28.53 | xevixlaptop | basic logic circuit works |
| 20:28.55 | sascha_ | HALLO |
| 20:28.57 | xevixlaptop | now need to test keypad |
| 20:31.53 | fyanardi | xevixlaptop: nice :) |
| 20:32.05 | fyanardi | i've to go now, time to bed :p |
| 20:33.04 | zerge | ohwell, just went with kbfx instead |
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| 20:35.53 | godoftweak | excuse me how can i get konversation hyperlinks to associate firefox? |
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| 20:36.26 | hein2 | godoftweak: Either set your KDE default browser to be Firefox in KControl, or use the Custom Browser preference in Behavior -> General in Konversation's settings dialog |
| 20:36.51 | godoftweak | cool ty |
| 20:36.56 | kalnik | My Compiz Desktop Cuke won't work despite them being enabled. |
| 20:37.16 | hein2 | kalnik: -> #compiz |
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| 20:39.04 | kalnik | They are enabled in the Compiz manager, but the keys will not do what they are assigned. |
| 20:39.21 | pinotree | kalnik: please ask in #compiz-fusion, this is #kde |
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| 20:43.28 | msbhvn | any way to get an apps 'right click on title bar' context menu instead of the kwin menu? |
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| 20:43.57 | kexman | i have a wireless multimedia keyboard it's a Benq |
| 20:44.07 | kexman | what keyboard model do you guys suggest i use ? |
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| 20:49.47 | Kristho | Hi |
| 20:50.43 | Kristho | I was just thinking if there is a "mac-like" panel-option in KDE4. You know, the one in the top, with "File", "Edit" and so on |
| 20:50.59 | maki_d | anyone compiled kde4 from svn today ? |
| 20:51.05 | Thundercloud_ | I have |
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| 20:51.38 | maki_d | is it stable, cause i have read on planetkde that there were sum buggy changes to plasma |
| 20:51.43 | maki_d | *some |
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| 20:51.51 | Thundercloud_ | Everything except plasma is stable |
| 20:51.53 | Thundercloud_ | Which means |
| 20:51.53 | Thundercloud_ | No |
| 20:51.55 | Thundercloud_ | It's not stable. |
| 20:52.05 | Thundercloud_ | You'll be able to do some basic stuff with it. |
| 20:52.10 | Thundercloud_ | But try to add applets and it'll mess up |
| 20:52.14 | Thundercloud_ | Plus the task manager's a bit out of whack atm. |
| 20:52.38 | maki_d | ok, then i wont upgrade this week |
| 20:52.44 | Thundercloud_ | Aye |
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| 21:01.31 | TheSource | hi |
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| 21:06.29 | pinotree | yep |
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| 21:10.40 | IceD^ | can somebidy set terminus font in console/kde-4 |
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| 21:10.45 | IceD^ | konsole, sorry |
| 21:10.51 | digmig | list |
| 21:11.07 | IceD^ | it eats about 30% cpu when I'm doing so |
| 21:11.17 | pinotree | digmig: no bots here, just ask |
| 21:11.36 | digmig | sorry, spelling error. |
| 21:13.30 | DirkGently | oh... IceD^ wasn't very patient |
| 21:13.32 | maki_d | wonders should he wait for svn trunk to settle down after the major changes in plasma or join the fun/pain |
| 21:14.04 | DirkGently | I live in KDE trunk, so I'll wait :) |
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| 21:14.20 | DirkGently | hmmm... living in trunk |
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| 21:16.53 | clau30_ | hi. got a problem. I forgot my kde svn password and apparently lost my ssh private key :( what can I do? |
| 21:17.06 | PhilRod | email sysadmin@kde.org |
| 21:17.43 | clau30_ | ok, thanks :) |
| 21:18.03 | digmig | I'm using Kontact 1.2.4 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) and hate it- kadressbook is constantly crashing. Should I use some more recent version with my kubuntu and ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4 |
| 21:18.27 | digmig | somthing stable enough for home office use? |
| 21:18.50 | amda | Have f8 downloaded to desktop, how do I get it to run on my computer . I'd like it to replace fc5. Please. |
| 21:18.53 | maki_d | DirkGently: i too live in trunk |
| 21:19.08 | maki_d | amda ask in #fedora |
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| 21:19.38 | DirkGently | maki_d: living on the edge eh? :) |
| 21:19.46 | amda | I did , but no one responded... |
| 21:19.52 | DirkGently | at the mercy of the developers |
| 21:20.00 | mi | ah kdelibs works again ( after 3 days) ...:) |
| 21:20.05 | maki_d | amda: be patient |
| 21:20.19 | amda | Okay ,ty |
| 21:20.54 | maki_d | DirkGently: KDE from svn works great, i use it for a month now and i haven't had major problem |
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| 21:22.10 | DirkGently | maki_d: me too... I have occasional freezes with Konqueror since the last build |
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| 21:23.17 | maki_d | i barely use konqueror, when i right click on a link i dont have open in new window/tab |
| 21:23.23 | godoftweak | razer is the only choice |
| 21:23.38 | godoftweak | oops old text |
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| 21:25.05 | DirkGently | hungers... food... search... |
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| 21:30.20 | basso | anyone knows how you can add a new "taskbar" in kde4? |
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| 21:31.19 | godoftweak | how do i stop x and keep it stopped it keeps restarting!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:31.41 | tremby | godoftweak: what distribution? |
| 21:31.45 | godoftweak | gentoo |
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| 21:32.08 | tremby | no idea. try /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 21:32.19 | godoftweak | but it comes right back |
| 21:32.24 | godoftweak | it auto reinitialize |
| 21:32.46 | tremby | does gentoo distinguish between x and non-x runlevels? if so, try init 3 |
| 21:32.53 | katastrophe | killall kdm godoftweak |
| 21:33.04 | godoftweak | it doesnt seem to accept init cmds |
| 21:33.10 | godoftweak | i see no response |
| 21:33.14 | tremby | are you root |
| 21:33.18 | godoftweak | yes |
| 21:33.25 | tremby | there's no response except output from the init scripts |
| 21:33.32 | tremby | you could also try init 2, which is single-user mode |
| 21:33.34 | tremby | generally |
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| 21:40.30 | DirkGently | tremby: 1 is single user |
| 21:40.47 | DirkGently | godoftweak: have you tried #gentoo? |
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| 21:41.11 | tremby | i thought 1 was poweroff. guess that's 0. haven't used runlevels in a while |
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| 21:41.38 | dwins | init 2 == single user with networking, afaik |
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| 21:41.55 | DirkGently | dwins: debian runs in 2 by default |
| 21:42.12 | dwins | well debian is weird |
| 21:42.41 | dwins | also, i make things up sometimes |
| 21:42.45 | dwins | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=runlevel |
| 21:42.45 | level1 | Hi, Im having some trouble with phonon and freinds. For starters, kmix doesnt start |
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| 21:43.15 | DirkGently | dwins: from suse inittab: |
| 21:43.20 | DirkGently | # runlevel 1 is Single user mode |
| 21:43.21 | DirkGently | # runlevel 2 is Local multiuser without remote network (e.g. NFS) |
| 21:43.21 | DirkGently | # runlevel 3 is Full multiuser with network |
| 21:43.34 | level1 | or maybe it starts and doesnt display a system tray applet |
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| 21:45.17 | tremby | what might be capturing my keyboard's mute button? khotkeys isn't running, there's nothing in kcontrol's keyboard shortcuts list, kmix's global shortcuts is empty. yet when i press mute, kmix runs and its mute action executes. i don't want this. tried grep -r kmix ~/.kde but there's nothing useful. KDE3. |
| 21:45.40 | vip | hi, anybody experienced problems with compiz&kmix? (e.g. not responding kde) |
| 21:46.02 | pinotree | vip: #compiz |
| 21:46.15 | vip | pinotree: but it's kde related too |
| 21:46.18 | vip | isn't it? |
| 21:46.25 | Fish-Face | What happened to the "become root" button in System Settings? |
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| 21:46.41 | pinotree | first try -without- compiz, then we can try to support |
| 21:46.51 | pinotree | Fish-Face: it has not been implented yet |
| 21:46.57 | Fish-Face | Aww :( |
| 21:47.20 | Fish-Face | Hmm, and someone says kubuntu isn't going to update its KDE4 in Hardy any more >< |
| 21:47.23 | Fish-Face | arses! |
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| 21:47.33 | Fish-Face | that was a general expletive, not an insult to kubuntu guys ;-) |
| 21:47.40 | pinotree | #kubuntu for that, not a kde problem |
| 21:47.46 | Fish-Face | jap |
| 21:47.54 | Fish-Face | I'm just whining I'm afraid |
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| 21:48.08 | DirkGently | Fish-Face: roll your own :) |
| 21:48.42 | level1 | If |
| 21:48.44 | Fish-Face | Hehe, no thanks Detective ;) |
| 21:48.45 | DirkGently | it's really not difficult in debian-based distros |
| 21:49.07 | Fish-Face | still requires compilation, though, right? |
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| 21:49.20 | level1 | If I have a kde 3 session in the background thats using my computers audio device, and kde 4 is in a seperate x session, would that cause audio problems? |
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| 21:49.52 | DirkGently | Fish-Face: just follow a simple howto... even I can do it |
| 21:50.28 | Fish-Face | meh. these days I try to avoid compilation |
| 21:50.57 | Authority | level1: is your audio hardware/driver isn't capable of mixing, yes |
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| 21:51.30 | level1 | Authority: is there anyway to get kde 3 to stop grabbing the audio? |
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| 21:52.32 | Authority | level1: stop playing sounds? assuming you're using the aRts sound server, it should periodically release due to inactivity |
| 21:52.33 | lemma | level1: you can disable the audio server in the settings |
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| 21:52.46 | Authority | level1: or disable the sound server completely, as lemma suggested |
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| 21:57.38 | level1 | man I cant even find a device that will play a media file |
| 21:58.07 | level1 | a program I mean |
| 21:58.17 | level1 | they all break |
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| 21:59.28 | level1 | none of them can grab the audio device even though I disabled it in kde 3 |
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| 22:01.08 | level1 | The audio playback device HDA Intel does not work... failing back to PulseAudio |
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| 22:05.03 | PhilRod | level1: so this probably means that your audio setup is broken - ask in #yourdistro |
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| 22:06.07 | level1 | PhilRod: Im gonna go over there and theyre gonna tell me its a phonon problem and send me back here |
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| 22:09.18 | PhilRod | level1: did you disable artsd as suggested by the others? |
| 22:09.26 | PhilRod | and then did you check it had died? |
| 22:09.35 | level1 | PhilRod: nobody suggested I disable artsd |
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| 22:11.43 | PhilRod | "<Authority> level1: or disable the sound server completely, as lemma suggested" |
| 22:11.57 | level1 | PhilRod: sound server, not artsd |
| 22:12.10 | PhilRod | artsd *is* the sound server |
| 22:12.23 | PhilRod | anyway, whichever you prefer to call it, I also suggest you disable it |
| 22:13.10 | level1 | how can I know if its enabled? |
| 22:13.22 | lemma | level1: ps axu | grep artsd |
| 22:13.34 | lemma | level1: or check in your settings |
| 22:13.42 | level1 | its not enabled |
| 22:14.17 | lemma | level1: unfortunately sound setup can be pretty much a pita |
| 22:14.31 | level1 | a pita? |
| 22:14.37 | lemma | level1: Pain In The Ass :D |
| 22:15.09 | level1 | lemma: well, I cant actually prove that sound isnt working because I cant find an application that is willing to produce sound |
| 22:15.13 | level1 | aside from kde 3 apps |
| 22:15.16 | level1 | and mplayer |
| 22:15.48 | lemma | level1: sorry, it's just hard to advise anything here :/ |
| 22:16.56 | Authority | level1, what distro are you using? |
| 22:17.13 | level1 | Authority: kubuntu |
| 22:17.27 | level1 | Authority: but I compiled kde 4 from source |
| 22:17.49 | tampakrap | level1: switch to gentoo :P |
| 22:18.03 | level1 | also I cant seem to start alsamixer or amixer |
| 22:18.18 | level1 | with alsa mixer I get tihs error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 22:18.26 | level1 | and amixer: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device |
| 22:19.41 | Authority | If I remember correctly, the kubuntu-provided kde3 are built to use the sound server instead of ALSA directly, but that may be configurable app-by-app |
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| 22:22.10 | level1 | is there a way I can find out what program is using snd_hda_intel? |
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| 22:29.51 | Lycus | How can I "reset" KDE entirely? It doesn't load a menubar or anything when I load it up, using 4.0x |
| 22:29.58 | tafsen | What do I need to install to change gtk themes in KDE? |
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| 22:30.21 | tampakrap | tafsen: gtk-engines-qt |
| 22:30.38 | dwins | Lycus: to go back to all default settings, you can just log out, delete ~/.kde (or ~/.kde4 depending on how it's packaged) and log back in. BUT |
| 22:31.02 | dwins | if you look at the emergency repair page linked in the topic, it tells you how to reset just plasma, which is probably what you want |
| 22:31.55 | Lycus | ty, dwins |
| 22:32.15 | tafsen | tampakrap: Thank you very much :) |
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| 22:38.50 | klerfayt | how to release konsole if I run "kwin --replace" in it so that window decoration doesn't disappear if I close konsole? |
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| 22:39.42 | ingvildr | klerfayt: add an & on the end of the command |
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| 22:39.51 | katastrophe | klerfayt: ctrl+z |
| 22:39.53 | katastrophe | then bg |
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| 22:39.58 | klerfayt | katastrophe: bg? |
| 22:40.17 | katastrophe | yep, the process is in background then and you can close konsole |
| 22:40.54 | klerfayt | katastrophe: I mean what do you mean with "bg"? (I'm a noob, I need this to test compiz bug) |
| 22:41.37 | katastrophe | just type bg like ls or something |
| 22:41.56 | katastrophe | its a command |
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| 22:42.45 | klerfayt | katastrophe: decoration disappeared. I press "ctrl+z" and then typed "bg". (started with "kwin --replace") |
| 22:42.58 | klerfayt | katastrophe: oops I mean with "kwin --replace &" |
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| 22:43.22 | katastrophe | hm then ... i dont know really |
| 22:43.33 | klerfayt | katastrophe: ok I got it back with "alt+f2" "kwin --replace" |
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| 22:45.48 | klerfayt | nice X freezed :-/ (I will try this time without "&" --> "kwin --replace" --> "ctrl+z" --> close konsole & reopen it) |
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| 22:48.14 | klerfayt | pressing ctrl+z doesn't work nicely, I can't move windows anymore |
| 22:48.40 | katastrophe | no the process is frozen with ctrl+z |
| 22:48.55 | katastrophe | but its exactly the same as you would do kwin --replace & |
| 22:49.02 | klerfayt | katastrophe: "[1]+ Stopped kwin --replace" |
| 22:49.05 | katastrophe | so it wont work either |
| 22:49.07 | benJIman | katastrophe: You do control-z then type "bg |
| 22:50.42 | klerfayt | benJIman: I still lost window decorations, now I can't press "alt+f2" either, here goes another xrestart |
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| 22:52.14 | klerfayt | benJIman: so how you do it right way? I want to be able to "compiz --replace" -> close konsole -> reopen konsole -> "kwin --replace" -> close konsole |
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| 22:56.09 | dwins | klerfayt: if you do ctrl+z followed by bg that should be what happens |
| 22:57.37 | klerfayt | dwins: but then I close konsole after "kwin --replace" -> ctrl+z -> bg Enter - my window decoration is gone |
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| 22:57.57 | shadok | nope, bg doesn't detach the process, you should use : nohup compiz --replace& to detach it |
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| 22:59.34 | gokorn | hi. mandriva has nice kde settings in desktop. how to do this in kubuntu? |
| 22:59.45 | klerfayt | shadok: and then I can close Konsole? |
| 22:59.53 | shadok | right |
| 22:59.56 | PhilRod | gokorn: set the settings the way you like them? |
| 23:00.12 | PhilRod | gokorn: you'll have to be more specific - what are the settings you want? |
| 23:00.27 | shadok | exporting the theme should do it afaik |
| 23:00.31 | shadok | gokorn: |
| 23:00.41 | klerfayt | shadok: thanks it works ;-) |
| 23:00.53 | gokorn | like when you go to the top right corner the windows switch and alt tab is like in mac... those things :P |
| 23:01.21 | shadok | klerfayt: you're welcome :) |
| 23:01.34 | shadok | smells like compiz to me gokorn |
| 23:01.43 | gokorn | yes i think that is it |
| 23:01.44 | gokorn | :P |
| 23:01.44 | shadok | try installing compiz-fusion |
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| 23:02.09 | gokorn | is it stable? |
| 23:02.33 | shadok | somehow ^^ |
| 23:02.37 | gokorn | :D |
| 23:02.47 | shadok | not as kwin but it's ok for daily use |
| 23:03.16 | shadok | you should try it if you like shiny effects |
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| 23:03.54 | gokorn | makes my day easyer :P |
| 23:03.59 | shadok | :) |
| 23:04.06 | shadok | have a good night/day people |
| 23:04.09 | klerfayt | shadok: but this puts nohup.out file in $HOME. and restarts compiz if I close Konsole |
| 23:04.52 | shadok | strange |
| 23:05.20 | shadok | i have to go to bed, sorry, stay here, someone will answer that :) |
| 23:05.37 | klerfayt | haha :-( |
| 23:05.39 | gokorn | have a good n8 |
| 23:05.43 | shadok | thx |
| 23:05.54 | klerfayt | sweet dreams |
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| 23:17.14 | klerfayt | I found a manual about bash - basically pressing "ctrl+z" is same as "kwin --replace &"? |
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| 23:23.33 | klerfayt | ok I found out what I was doing wrong: "kwin --replace" -> ctrl+z -> bg Enter -> exit Enter (not session -> quit) |
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| 23:32.11 | gokorn | what is diference with gdm and kdm |
| 23:32.23 | gokorn | is g and k stands for gnome and kdE? |
| 23:32.27 | Thundercloud_ | Pretty much |
| 23:32.28 | PhilRod | correct |
| 23:32.58 | gokorn | ok |
| 23:33.25 | beasty | morning |
| 23:34.01 | beasty | anyone knows where i can find a tutorial for glueing python+c++ for a kicker applet ? |
| 23:35.58 | gokorn | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop |
| 23:36.05 | gokorn | i did this can someting goes wrong? |
| 23:36.40 | Thundercloud_ | What do you mean go wrong? :P |
| 23:37.17 | PhilRod | gokorn: ask in #ubuntu |
| 23:37.33 | gokorn | ah i missed chanel |
| 23:37.34 | gokorn | sory :d |
| 23:38.50 | beasty | gokorn: did you restart your computer ? |
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| 23:56.29 | tlogic | hello |
| 23:57.03 | tlogic | whenever I type an accended character in a kde application I see the following message: sending IMStart with 0 chars to 0x81140c8 |
| 23:57.11 | tlogic | anybody knows why it happens? |
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