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| 00:32.40 | toni_ | sabayon 3.4 / kde 3.4: how to upgrade to kde4.0? |
| 00:33.20 | g2g591 | toni_: ah a Gentoo derivitive, I can handle this (im on Gentoo myself) |
| 00:33.59 | toni_ | g2g591: cool, thanks, any suggestions how to start? |
| 00:34.18 | pinotree | toni_: #sabayon please |
| 00:34.35 | toni_ | understood |
| 00:34.49 | g2g591 | toni_: ill give u a url , hold on |
| 00:34.58 | toni_ | k, holding on |
| 00:35.01 | patakraouzeck | hi |
| 00:35.21 | g2g591 | toni_: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4.xml |
| 00:35.43 | toni_ | thank a bunch, g2g591 |
| 00:35.45 | patakraouzeck | where can I find docs about windows management like dcop, wmctrl... ? |
| 00:36.20 | pinotree | patakraouzeck: dcop has nothing to do with window management |
| 00:36.26 | pinotree | for the rest, #xorg |
| 00:36.46 | patakraouzeck | pinotree: closing windows maybe |
| 00:36.52 | pinotree | no |
| 00:36.53 | patakraouzeck | gracefuly |
| 00:37.00 | patakraouzeck | wmctrl does |
| 00:37.08 | pinotree | do you know what DCOP is? |
| 00:37.27 | patakraouzeck | explain |
| 00:37.30 | patakraouzeck | :) |
| 00:37.44 | patakraouzeck | sounds to deal with X session |
| 00:37.57 | pinotree | sounds like you need a good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCOP |
| 00:38.10 | patakraouzeck | that's my request, yes... |
| 00:38.32 | pinotree | anyway, wmctrl and stuff is more matter for #xorg, not here |
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| 00:40.34 | patakraouzeck | I'm coding bash scripts to do some X management... |
| 00:40.56 | patakraouzeck | thanks for the link. ( I know this page ) |
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| 01:00.58 | Nyle | using kmail + gmail/imap |
| 01:01.13 | Nyle | I went to my spam foler, selected 200 messages, clicked move to trash, and its taking forever |
| 01:01.20 | Nyle | its going at like 1 message per 2 secons |
| 01:01.37 | _kdepepo | So it will finish in 400 seconds. |
| 01:02.02 | Nyle | it is supposed to be like this? |
| 01:02.22 | _kdepepo | Look for it on bugs.kde.org, if it isn't there, report it. |
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| 01:04.57 | Nyle | nothing |
| 01:05.03 | Nyle | its not a bug... |
| 01:05.17 | Nyle | if you don't know just say so. |
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| 01:24.27 | mrunagi | can someone help me figure out why kopete all of a sudden wants to crash on me on startup? |
| 01:24.51 | DanielW | mrunagi: try to start it from konsole und look that the output |
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| 01:25.22 | mrunagi | thats the weird think DanielW when i go from console it goes back to $ but kopete still tries to load |
| 01:26.13 | mrunagi | thing* |
| 01:26.29 | DanielW | mrunagi: i am making that error all the time |
| 01:27.22 | mrunagi | its odd that i dont get anything but the $ prompt |
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| 01:29.40 | DanielW | mrunagi: ja the same here. that is normal. it seems that kopete forks and terminates one process. |
| 01:30.06 | mrunagi | i wish i knew the error |
| 01:30.08 | mrunagi | it use to work |
| 01:31.04 | DanielW | mrunagi: try to move its config files away |
| 01:31.20 | mrunagi | where are they located |
| 01:31.47 | DanielW | ~/.kde/share/config ... |
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| 01:32.17 | mrunagi | kopeterc? |
| 01:32.38 | mrunagi | ah |
| 01:32.40 | mrunagi | sweet |
| 01:32.47 | mrunagi | renaming it to kopeterc1 has freed it |
| 01:33.18 | mrunagi | however going to settings configure now locks kopete up |
| 01:33.28 | DanielW | oh .. |
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| 01:33.59 | mrunagi | that may be due to my webcam im just not sure how because i think the default selected menu item is devices |
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| 01:53.33 | lontra | will konqueror 4.1 use webkit? |
| 01:53.53 | fale_ | lontra: nope |
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| 01:54.42 | lontra | fale_: are there plans for konqueror to ever use webkit? |
| 01:54.58 | illogic-al | mebbe. |
| 01:55.03 | illogic-al | what's it to yah? |
| 01:55.32 | fale_ | lontra: as I know, no |
| 01:56.07 | fale_ | lontra: but konqueror is alreasy useable with webkit, thanks to some kpart |
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| 01:59.54 | braddbr | hi, i have an app that doesn't accept -geometry.. is there a way in kde to launch this app at a specified position? |
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| 02:12.13 | egibbs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:14.33 | jawee | egibbs: VLC has the ability to do that, but it may only be on the Windows version. I use KMPlayer on Linux, so I'm not sur.e |
| 02:15.19 | egibbs | jawee: how about the screensaver? |
| 02:15.29 | jawee | egibbs: http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2007/08/22/matrix-desktop/ |
| 02:15.42 | egibbs | jawee: thanks |
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| 02:15.50 | jawee | egibbs: A tad GNOME centric, but it should be workable |
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| 02:16.21 | jawee | egibbs: I assume you can use any screensaver you want with it too. I just had this bookmarked as toread |
| 02:16.47 | damjan | if you turn off the kdesktop background repainting, then you can set most video player programs to draw on the root X window |
| 02:17.53 | jawee | egibbs: I just looked and VLC's video for wallpaper feature requires DirectX |
| 02:18.09 | egibbs | :( |
| 02:18.45 | damjan | mplayer -rootwin |
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| 02:19.59 | egibbs | jawee: thanks - but like Dirty Harry said "mans got to know his limitations" |
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| 02:24.20 | damjan | egibbs: did you ignore anything I said?? |
| 02:25.29 | egibbs | damjan: no its beyond my ability - sorry:( |
| 02:25.49 | damjan | mplayer -rootwin?? |
| 02:25.50 | jawee | egibbs: mplayer -rootwin -fs yourfile.wmv |
| 02:26.04 | jawee | egibbs: just found that on Ubuntu forums |
| 02:27.03 | egibbs | jawee: if thats all, will try it:) thanks |
| 02:27.28 | DanielW | that doesn't work. |
| 02:28.25 | jawee | DanielW: you're right. sorry. |
| 02:29.30 | jawee | killing kdesktop doesn't work either. Sorry. |
| 02:30.23 | damjan | right click on the desktop, configure desktop, advanced |
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| 02:37.21 | dori | how do you show the type on dolphin? I can't sort files by extension anymore |
| 02:37.27 | dori | ? |
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| 02:45.53 | mfwitten | Hello. I just wanted to say that from as a first approximation impression, KDE (3.5) is probably the best (large) DE linux has. Thanks. |
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| 02:46.46 | jawee | mfwitten: what are you switching from, out of curiousity? |
| 02:48.25 | mfwitten | jawee: For full disclosure, I've had the most experience with Mac OS X; however, as far as X11 stuff is concerned, I've had a decent amount of exposure to Gnome (pure and Athena), XFCE4, and fluxbox. |
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| 02:50.25 | Jucato | Athena? that's ooold isn't it? :) |
| 02:50.25 | jawee | mfwitten: Fluxbox = WM last I checked. ;) |
| 02:50.28 | mfwitten | So far, I've felt most embowered and least bothered by KDE, which is humorous, considering I always shunned it. Also, KDE has supplied the fastest (perceived) experience for me out of them all |
| 02:50.40 | Jucato | jawee: yeah. but he did generalize it with "X11 stuff" |
| 02:51.02 | mfwitten | jawee: Yes, but most people using fluxbox are using ONLY fluxbox. |
| 02:51.28 | Jucato | yeah. they are only using a WM |
| 02:51.39 | Jucato | I tried fluxbox a bit... it's almost a lightweight DM... but barely |
| 02:51.51 | Jucato | less schizophrenic than Enlightenment (E17 specifically) |
| 02:52.20 | Jucato | anyway, this is getting a wee bit offtopic :P |
| 02:52.29 | mfwitten | In any case, I feel quite comfortable with KDE. |
| 02:52.42 | Jucato | great. hope you enjoy your stay :) |
| 02:52.52 | mfwitten | :-) |
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| 02:52.53 | mfwitten | Thanks |
| 02:52.53 | jawee | mfwitten: great, as I'm sure we all have hear |
| 02:53.12 | Jucato | feel free to ask for help in case you have questions. we have IRC, mailing lists, and your distro's channel for support :) |
| 02:54.01 | mfwitten | hahah |
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| 03:34.31 | abhay_ | how to upgade from kde 4.0 ot 4.0.2 |
| 03:34.48 | fale | abhay_: what distro do you use? |
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| 03:37.49 | abhay_ | fale ububtu gtsy giboon .10 |
| 03:37.54 | abhay_ | 7.10 |
| 03:38.37 | fale | abhay_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php |
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| 03:39.20 | fale | hi tanju |
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| 03:39.39 | tanju | hi fale |
| 03:39.57 | abhay_ | FALE:But that is for kde 4.0 |
| 03:40.20 | fale | abhay_: read ;) |
| 03:40.36 | tanju | o ori..haha..im just newbies.. |
| 03:40.37 | fale | abhay_: first line: KDE 4.0.2 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu 7.10 and Hardy. |
| 03:41.04 | tanju | im just browsing this fedora 8.. |
| 03:41.48 | fale | tanju: the distro that you use, doesn't define how much do you know linux ;) |
| 03:43.01 | fale | abhay_: often kde4.0.2 is called as 'kde4' ;) |
| 03:43.36 | tanju | actually i don't know how to use this..i'm just studying this free software. |
| 03:43.43 | jawee | fale: well, there is a difference between a commercial Linspire user and a Gentoo or LFS user. ;) |
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| 03:44.24 | fale | jawee: i have seen people using slackware as their first use of linux... |
| 03:44.39 | jadams | I'm getting the following:<unknown program name>(2910)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x61da10 |
| 03:44.49 | jadams | but compiz works fine when I'm not in kde4 |
| 03:45.08 | fale | jadams: distro? version of kde? |
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| 03:45.28 | Jucato | only kde4 has plasma, so that's a clue :) |
| 03:45.39 | tanju | fale: what is distro? |
| 03:45.39 | Jucato | (although you could say which kde4 version :P) |
| 03:45.39 | jawee | fale: true, but by getting set up with Slackware, they already have learned more than the average newbie of a user-friendly distro knows. |
| 03:45.58 | jadams | fale: kde 4 packages from ubuntu hardy alpha 5 |
| 03:46.23 | fale | jawee: or they left linux after one week because 'it doesn't work' |
| 03:46.36 | jadams | sorry, I joined #kde4 and it redirected me here...hence my not mentioning the version |
| 03:46.44 | Jucato | jadams: you might want to try #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 03:46.46 | fale | jadams: is ok ;) |
| 03:47.05 | jawee | fale: true, but Slackware takes devotion. PCLOS doesn;t |
| 03:47.25 | fale | jadams: hardly is not stable, and probably they have took the kde4 packages from the svn |
| 03:47.30 | Jucato | right. let's not get into a distro vs distro thing here |
| 03:47.35 | fale | jawee: this is true |
| 03:47.40 | g2g591 | jadams: I'd also suggest #kubuntu-kde4 (kubuntu knows more specifics) |
| 03:47.47 | Jucato | fale: no. they didn't |
| 03:48.03 | Jucato | their kde4 packages (same with gutsy) is from the 4.0.2 release |
| 03:48.03 | fale | Jucato: sure? usually they do that stuff |
| 03:48.21 | Jucato | pre-kde4 release they did. not now |
| 03:48.23 | tanju | any good samaritan here who can dfine what is distro? |
| 03:48.34 | Jucato | tanju: Linux distribution |
| 03:48.56 | fale | tanju: examples are: fedora, debian, ubuntu, kubuntu, Red Hat, suse, etc |
| 03:49.09 | Jucato | think of it as a packaged deal OS which already includes the Linux kernel, tools, X window system, etc. setup to work together in harmony |
| 03:49.11 | Jucato | (most of the time...) |
| 03:49.23 | tanju | thank you fale and jucato ; ) |
| 03:49.44 | g2g591 | tanju: a collection of software providing core packages and nonessential packages composing an operating system running the linux kernel |
| 03:49.46 | DanielW | Arch Linux :-) |
| 03:50.30 | jawee | tanju: you can visit http://distrowatch.com to learn more about differences between distro's to get a basic feel |
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| 03:50.46 | Jucato | tanju: you see, the Linux (or GNU/Linux) operating system is sort of like a layered cake. different layers/parts come from different ingredients and sources. a distribution bakes and packages the cake in a form that is suitable to the user/buyer |
| 03:50.50 | jawee | tanju: but everyone has different prefrences. I like Kubuntu, but others hate it. |
| 03:51.13 | Jucato | yeah... each distribution is sort of like a different bake shop :) |
| 03:51.25 | qupada | Jucato: the cake is a lie! |
| 03:51.32 | Jucato | hahahah |
| 03:51.36 | qupada | also, some of the cakes are baked with more alcohol than others ;) |
| 03:51.42 | Jucato | yum! |
| 03:52.04 | Jucato | yeah fruit cake during christmas.. has varying amounts of wine in them :) |
| 03:52.46 | fale | guys |
| 03:52.46 | jawee | ah, that explains GNOME |
| 03:52.57 | jombee | lmao @ jaweee |
| 03:53.07 | fale | I go eating a real cake :) |
| 03:53.18 | g2g591 | I've never had fruit cake personally |
| 03:53.31 | qupada | http://operationfruitcake.com |
| 03:53.33 | fale | jawee: gnome is not a cake... is a cake overoverbaked... |
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| 03:53.58 | jawee | fale: I know I've had my share of CD's ruined with GNOME Baker speaking of overbaking. |
| 03:54.25 | fale | :D |
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| 03:58.40 | Kubuntu_ | im on the livecd and kopete still likes to hange when i click devices in configure.........and when i try to add an account on msn......anyone know why or how to fix it? |
| 03:59.51 | g2g591 | Kubuntu_: I'd like to offer up livecd related slow/unresponsive ness |
| 04:00.09 | Kubuntu_ | it happens when i install too |
| 04:00.14 | Kubuntu_ | i was just hoping to resolve it before i installed |
| 04:00.34 | g2g591 | Kubuntu_: then talk about it in #kubuntu (99% chance this is a kubuntu issue) |
| 04:01.38 | jawee | Kubuntu_: the default Kubuntu install (Gusty) has an issue with MSN. You just need to run an update from Adept to get everything up to speed |
| 04:02.06 | Kubuntu_ | have you heard of an issue with the 'devices' section of configure too? |
| 04:02.31 | Kubuntu_ | jawee: now that i think about it i dont think i did an update the last time i installed |
| 04:02.43 | jawee | Kubuntu_: that I'm not sure. But and update may help there too |
| 04:02.45 | Kubuntu_ | i appreciate it sorry for any problems |
| 04:05.01 | jawee | Kubuntu_: but yeah, you probably want to move to #kubuntu |
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| 04:34.11 | jnmbk | Hi, in KDE 3.5.9 I get this in display settings, is there any solution to get it like the way it was before?: Your X server is using the RandR |
| 04:34.16 | jnmbk | extension at version 1.2 or greater which doesn't have any configuration yet |
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| 05:11.47 | abhay_ | i was scaratchig my head that what was that PPLICATION IN WHICH THAT COMMAND PROMPT IS SCROLLING FROM UP BY PRESSING F10 OR F11 KEY |
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| 05:12.09 | abhay_ | can any body help to figure out it,s name |
| 05:12.31 | Jucato | Yakuake (and it's F12) |
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| 05:13.23 | abhay_ | Jucato:thanx |
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| 06:17.29 | The_Dr | HI is anyone in KDE4 aware of a bug that corrupts the plasma panel in kde4.0. Around the borders you can see the wallpaper behind. Also, when the wallpaper is changed it doenst update and the background just goes white |
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| 06:41.33 | Quinthomas | <------Newest Fedora8 user. |
| 06:41.43 | Lanken | Quinthomas: I'm a new Mandriva user. |
| 06:41.51 | Lanken | want to compare notes on the kde implementation? |
| 06:42.15 | Quinthomas | I have been using Mandriva for a couple months. |
| 06:42.36 | Lanken | if we talk generally about the distro, let's do it in #mandriva |
| 06:42.36 | Quinthomas | Just went to fedora on this laptop. |
| 06:42.41 | Lanken | I don't want to go offtopic |
| 06:42.54 | Lanken | You're using kde in both, right? |
| 06:42.59 | Quinthomas | yea.. |
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| 06:43.29 | Lanken | I didn't have high expectations, because I really hated Kubuntu. Some people say it's bloated compared to the other desktop distros. I'm inclined to agree. |
| 06:43.57 | Lanken | I think my kde is much snappier in Mandriva. |
| 06:44.27 | daSKreech | deli os!! |
| 06:44.33 | Lanken | ? |
| 06:44.39 | Quinthomas | Mandriva has proved to be my favorite for desktop use out of the 10 or so distro's I have tried. |
| 06:44.52 | Lanken | I think I've tried like 5 |
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| 06:45.03 | Lanken | *buntu, Debian, Gentoo, Arch |
| 06:45.06 | Lanken | and now Mandriva |
| 06:45.50 | marsmissions | daSKreech: but does it make me a sandwich |
| 06:46.07 | daSKreech | marsmissions: ypu have to sudo it |
| 06:46.14 | daSKreech | even then it brings a sammich |
| 06:46.14 | marsmissions | lol. |
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| 07:09.13 | ObsidianX | hey folks, im trying to modify the C syntax file in Kate to highlight defines (anything that would match [A-Z_][A-Z0-9_]+ ) but i can't get it, is there any sort of howto on writing these things or do i just have to figure it out |
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| 07:13.13 | Lanken | is there a way to mask the visible files in konqueror? |
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| 07:13.33 | Lanken | for instance, I'd like to be in tree mode and only see files matching *kmenu* |
| 07:14.14 | Lanken | hmm. turns out I don't need that. those are the only files there. but it would be nice in the future |
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| 07:43.17 | Lanken | Mandriva's kicker has a bug that causes it to use the wrong kmenu.png when drawing kicker |
| 07:43.54 | Lanken | as a result, a kicker layout like mine has a kmenu button about 64x64 that uses the 32x32 icon, scaled up |
| 07:44.38 | Lanken | I don't know of a fix, so I made a retro-looking intentionally-pixelated kmenu button for my display |
| 07:45.23 | Lanken | http://zackglennie.com/img/kmenu_workaround.png |
| 07:46.40 | Lanken | now if only ksysguard could do transparent backgrounds, everything would be perfect |
| 07:47.05 | JohnFlux | Lanken: send me a patch, and I'll add it |
| 07:47.34 | JohnFlux | Lanken: for kde3? |
| 07:47.37 | Lanken | JohnFlux: don't hold your breath. :\ |
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| 07:48.14 | Lanken | I'm still on kde3, yeah |
| 07:48.32 | Lanken | when do you think the desktop distros will start shipping kde4 in stable? |
| 07:49.17 | Lanken | I suppose assembling a really nice kde3 layout is a bit like designing a really economical horse and carriage |
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| 08:06.15 | cb400f | Lanken: fedora, kubuntu, mandriva and opensuse all will this spring/early summer |
| 08:06.34 | cb400f | .. but most likely you'll find you'll have more problems with that than with kde3 |
| 08:07.22 | cb400f | really usable kde4.x I think won't be around until the fall releases |
| 08:07.49 | daSKreech | 4.21 |
| 08:08.08 | Lanken | cb400f: ok. I'm not so much playing with my computer the way I used to be (it was great for learning, but it's not what I do for fun anymore) |
| 08:08.08 | cb400f | my bet is 4.1.2 :-) |
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| 08:08.31 | Lanken | so yeah, I'll waiting for when it's pretty stable |
| 08:10.24 | cb400f | Lanken: I predict that by next spring (kde 4.2.x) it'll rock your world and restore your pleasure in playing with your computer :-) |
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| 08:19.54 | Lanken | cb400f: it's not the computer that's changed, it's me. different interests and priorities. It would take a lot on the desktop to rock my world. |
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| 08:21.44 | greg_72 | Any k3b expert here? Can I make k3b to save the cd image as an iso image? Now it saves .inf and .wav files which I cannot re-read in k3b. Ok, I can re-read the wave files, but not the .inf files which describe the songs |
| 08:22.04 | Lanken | you don't need k3b to rip an iso image from a cd |
| 08:22.17 | Lanken | you can do it with dd |
| 08:22.36 | bwayne | greg_72: sure. k3b can do that. |
| 08:22.51 | Lanken | you can probably get someone to tell you a full command in #linux (if k3b doesn't work out) |
| 08:23.14 | greg_72 | Lanken: that's clear but sometimes I fall back to wysiwyg programs instead of the holy command line. Burning cds is such a task |
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| 08:23.53 | Lanken | greg_72: I know exactly what you mean. I'm always having to install gparted because I can't be arsed to learn to edit partition tables without it. |
| 08:24.12 | bwayne | Lanken: cfdisk is somewhat graphical. |
| 08:24.27 | Lanken | bwayne: curses? |
| 08:24.32 | bwayne | i think. |
| 08:24.52 | Lanken | bwayne: I'll keep that in mind. good curses apps are a godsend. rtorrent, htop... |
| 08:24.55 | Lanken | ncdu |
| 08:25.12 | bwayne | right. cfdisk + mke2fs is what I always use. |
| 08:25.24 | bwayne | htop rocks. |
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| 08:26.15 | Lanken | I'm not sure why distros don't ship it. on its homepage, it mentions a few outstanding problems with ram reporting in top... |
| 08:26.46 | Lanken | so we're keeping a less "correct," highly intimidating utility in favor of htop |
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| 08:34.27 | Gastro | Is KDE larger (hd space) than Gnome? |
| 08:36.35 | bwayne | KDE pretty big. |
| 08:37.16 | bwayne | considering the size of modern hard drives, negligably smaller. |
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| 08:39.20 | Arelis | How can i get automated-tiling functionality in KDE? (like in wmii, awesomewm, dwm, xmonad, and so on) |
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| 08:44.32 | gourdin | kgpg-kde4 wont stay in systray |
| 08:44.43 | gourdin | anyone else got this bug ? |
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| 08:52.51 | JohnFlux | gourdin: glue it down |
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| 08:54.28 | cff32rd32 | any fedora8 user here? |
| 08:54.45 | Gastro | Anyone knows about how much space KDE is taking? (I'm making a Live-CD/DVD so i got limited space) |
| 08:55.06 | cff32rd32 | not sure |
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| 08:58.44 | gourdin | JohnFlux: I try I try |
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| 09:04.37 | wstephenson | Gastro: http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/8/84/OpenSUSE-fosdem2008-KDE4.pdf, slide 33 |
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| 09:15.58 | stefo | Hi. The "load plugins on demand" option seems to be broken in my konq 3.5.7. most flash applets actually get loaded, and cpu spikes happen a lot |
| 09:16.04 | stefo | any hints? |
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| 09:16.21 | stefo | guess I should update for starters.. |
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| 09:40.59 | ajuc | edit->select all |
| 09:41.05 | ajuc | ? |
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| 09:49.26 | aantipop | there is no edit/select all in konsole |
| 09:49.30 | aantipop | at least in my konsole :( |
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| 09:52.12 | gourdin | krunner crash everytime :( |
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| 10:10.14 | safak | Hello |
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| 10:10.47 | safak | how can I prevent my OS from stealing the focus for applications that run and then pop up messages while I'm working with something else ? |
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| 10:17.06 | momesana | safak: kde3? |
| 10:17.08 | rohanpm | safak: in kwin settings, go to "Advanced", set "Focus Stealing Prevention Level" to something high |
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| 10:21.35 | safak | ok thanks :) I set it to Extreme ;) |
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| 10:44.24 | arussel | when I click on kopete icon and a session is already open, instead of opening a new one, it focuses on the existing one. How can I do that with other application. |
| 10:44.42 | arussel | I had a look at dcop but couldn't find a focus function. |
| 10:45.44 | SSJ_GZ | arussel: I don't think there is a way of giving an app focus via dcop, alas. |
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| 10:46.24 | arussel | SSJ_GZ: so no way to do what I want for emacs or eclipse ? |
| 10:46.38 | SSJ_GZ | arussel: Not to my knowledge. |
| 10:46.46 | arussel | ok, thanks |
| 10:46.51 | SSJ_GZ | np |
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| 11:12.11 | dkarlovi | hello |
| 11:12.27 | dkarlovi | I'm trying to build kdiamond on Fedora 8 |
| 11:12.34 | dkarlovi | the SVN version |
| 11:12.47 | dkarlovi | it says "Unknown CMake command "kde4_install_icons"." |
| 11:13.03 | dkarlovi | I've found out that it needs kdelibs4-devel |
| 11:13.07 | dkarlovi | which I have installed |
| 11:13.25 | dkarlovi | so, any ideas? :) |
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| 11:16.28 | SSJ_GZ | dkarlovi: Where is kdiamond in SVN? |
| 11:16.41 | dkarlovi | kdereview? |
| 11:16.51 | pinotree | kdereview |
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| 11:17.51 | dkarlovi | SSJ_GZ: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdereview/kdiamond |
| 11:18.04 | SSJ_GZ | Thanks! |
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| 11:20.49 | SSJ_GZ | dkarlovi: Same here. I wonder if it needs to be moved into a checkout of kdegames and have CMake run on the whole kdegame tree ... ? |
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| 11:21.09 | annma | dkarlovi: are you sure your kdelibs is really kde4? |
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| 11:21.29 | annma | some distros have kdelibs-4 which are not kdelibs from KDE 4 |
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| 11:34.00 | dkarlovi | SSJ_GZ: my kdelibs4 is 4.0.1 |
| 11:34.18 | dkarlovi | annma: how can I tell? :) |
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| 11:38.28 | Skrot | dkarlovi: Debian based distros ofte call their kdelibs "kdelibs4-*" for KDE 3 and then there's "kdelibs5-*" for KDE 4 |
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| 11:39.07 | dkarlovi | Skrot: my kdelibs4 is really KDE 4 kdelibs :) |
| 11:39.20 | Skrot | I might be :-) |
| 11:39.24 | Skrot | It* |
| 11:39.41 | dkarlovi | this is what it says in the package description: Libraries for the K Desktop Environment 4. |
| 11:39.53 | dkarlovi | so, my guess is, yes, those are the right libs :) |
| 11:40.25 | Arelis | How can i get automated-tiling functionality in KDE? (like in wmii, awesomewm, dwm, xmonad, and so on) |
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| 11:41.36 | Skrot | dkarlovi: Ah, you're having trouble building kdiamond (from inside kdereview/kdiamond/)? |
| 11:42.00 | dkarlovi | Skrot: right |
| 11:42.52 | Skrot | I've noticed that some projects, such as kdiamond, depends on the CMakeLists.txt of the parent directory. Build the entire kdereview directory will build kdiamond. I'm unsure of how you can build only one project from the top level without manually editing the CMakeLists.txt file though |
| 11:43.08 | dkarlovi | which file should contain the kde4_install_icons? |
| 11:44.08 | thiago_home | KDE4Macros.cmake |
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| 11:44.31 | dkarlovi | yep, I've figured as much :) |
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| 11:44.53 | dkarlovi | tnx thiago_home |
| 11:44.59 | dkarlovi | it's not there |
| 11:45.40 | thiago_home | yes, it is |
| 11:45.47 | dkarlovi | I meant for me |
| 11:46.09 | thiago_home | where does your KDE4Macros.cmake come from? |
| 11:46.24 | dkarlovi | fedora8's kdelibs4-devel package |
| 11:46.59 | dkarlovi | grep kde4_install_icons /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/KDE4Macros.cmake | wc -l |
| 11:47.05 | dkarlovi | this says 0 |
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| 11:48.07 | ukwiz | can anyone explain how to set up a file association in konquerer to use the embedded text editor? |
| 11:48.11 | thiago_home | it was added after KDE 4.0 |
| 11:48.29 | dkarlovi | after 4.0.1? |
| 11:48.55 | thiago_home | yes, it's in the 4.1 branch only |
| 11:49.17 | Skrot | dkarlovi: grep -i |
| 11:49.52 | dkarlovi | oh, that explains it |
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| 11:50.13 | dkarlovi | this is kdelibs-4.0.1 |
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| 11:51.08 | dkarlovi | tnx thiago |
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| 12:14.32 | faemir | What is the easiest way for me to remove the flash plugin from konqueror? |
| 12:14.38 | faemir | (To then be replaced with gnash) |
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| 12:28.09 | mikearthur | faemir: uninstall the flash package? |
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| 12:32.22 | tuxick | faemir: you don't want that, really |
| 12:33.19 | faemir | tuxick: it's only for youtube videos, and the official one doesn't work in konq. |
| 12:34.09 | tuxick | it does |
| 12:34.21 | tuxick | i know you've been asking about this for a week but really, it works |
| 12:34.32 | tuxick | i even have it working on a 64bit system |
| 12:34.53 | tuxick | you sound a bit like "i reinstalled because sound didn't work" |
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| 12:35.20 | tuxick | i wonder of gnash can even handle youtube |
| 12:35.23 | tuxick | it sucks at the rest |
| 12:36.07 | faemir | It can. |
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| 12:45.44 | damjan | faemir: what distro? |
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| 12:46.46 | faemir | damjan: arch |
| 12:47.56 | damjan | faemir: there seems to be some patch for gtk2 to make flash work in konqueror |
| 12:48.08 | damjan | I see it mentioned in http://slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 |
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| 12:51.03 | tuxick | duh, flash uses gtk? |
| 12:51.23 | tuxick | that would explain why it's so good at blowing up nspluginviewer |
| 12:51.29 | damjan | yes |
| 12:52.16 | tuxick | anyway, no such problems on gentoo, not even 64bit |
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| 12:52.43 | tuxick | or is this about kde4? |
| 12:52.57 | pinda | hi, are there more people who can't compile qt-copy since it got updated to qt4.4 beta1? |
| 12:53.10 | pinda | "cc1plus: error: .pch/release-shared/QtWebKit: No such file or directory" |
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| 12:54.54 | Mexico | hola gente ke ondas |
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| 13:00.42 | Mexico | alguien ke hable español |
| 13:00.52 | jazka | :o |
| 13:00.55 | jazka | english please |
| 13:00.57 | pinotree | Mexico: nope |
| 13:01.09 | Mexico | okidockys |
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| 13:14.47 | safak | where can I open the energy saving options ? |
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| 13:24.14 | MaNI | is there a way in ktorrent to specify a download priority? ie/ tell it that if possible one download should use more bandwidth then the others? |
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| 13:26.16 | thiago_home | are you maxxing out your bandwidth? |
| 13:26.47 | MaNI | yes |
| 13:26.53 | MaNI | we don't have much of it in this country |
| 13:26.54 | MaNI | :p |
| 13:27.01 | thiago_home | ok |
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| 13:27.50 | thiago_home | I don't think ktorrent has such a feature |
| 13:27.57 | thiago_home | it'll try and download first what you prioritise |
| 13:28.09 | thiago_home | but the bandwidth depends on the availability of peers |
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| 13:32.13 | MaNI | mm it is a pity seems to be the only feature it still lacks |
| 13:32.36 | hdf | which hardware do I need to compile kde? |
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| 13:34.01 | pinotree | hdf: what is the real question? |
| 13:34.44 | hdf | will 733 mhz and 64 mb ram+244 mb swap be enough to compile kde? |
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| 13:34.53 | pinotree | no |
| 13:34.57 | pinotree | too few ram |
| 13:35.11 | hdf | i mean for kde 2 |
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| 13:38.19 | maki_d | is it safe to compile KDE4 with webkit ? |
| 13:39.18 | pinotree | hdf: not sure |
| 13:39.30 | pinotree | maki_d: and what would be the problem with it? |
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| 13:41.18 | maki_d | pinotree: i just ask, because now i'm installing the qt webkit demo browser and it gives me trouble, i wonder if compiling KDE with webkit would be easier |
| 13:41.41 | pinotree | and what would be the problem with it? (again) |
| 13:42.12 | maki_d | pinotree: nothing, i just asked if it works ok |
| 13:42.22 | pinotree | why should not? |
| 13:42.35 | maki_d | safe, wouldn't mess anything |
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| 13:44.45 | wstephenson_ | hdf, pinotree: KDE4 trunk/KDE sources: 1.7Gb, build: 15Gb (i586) |
| 13:45.17 | pinotree | hdf: he's asking about compiling resources... for kde 2 ;) |
| 13:45.24 | pinotree | err, wstephenson_ ↑ |
| 13:45.28 | wstephenson_ | pinotree: just for reference :) |
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| 13:46.33 | hdf | I'm planning to buy a new computer with dual-core but it won't be soon |
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| 13:48.57 | wstephenson_ | i'm still waiting for the intel quad core 45nm cpus to come out... |
| 13:49.03 | wstephenson_ | fast and quiet. |
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| 13:57.33 | BTK | hi |
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| 13:58.09 | BTK | I was wondering that is there a way to get text in a konsole with dcop |
| 13:58.43 | BTK | since I cannot find any function (is that a right name?) to get that information |
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| 15:06.25 | manulite | quick question, is the proxy issue sorted in 4.0.2? |
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| 15:16.26 | SSJ_GZ | manulite: Not to my knowledge :/ |
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| 15:24.26 | bmf | Hi, can somehow "hide titlebar" of windows just like I can "hide window borders"? Is it possible in KDE 3.5? |
| 15:25.28 | bmf | it's actually a "no border" option for a window, and I'm looking for something like "no titlebar" |
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| 15:27.18 | phrearch | hi |
| 15:27.26 | phrearch | kwin doesnt start automatically :/ |
| 15:27.30 | JohnFlux | bmf: no border also hides the titlebar.. |
| 15:27.33 | phrearch | anywhere where i can check whats wrong? |
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| 15:28.42 | jawee | phrearch: what distro? |
| 15:28.46 | phrearch | arch |
| 15:29.20 | bmf | JohnFlux: true, but what if I want to hide the titlebar and leave the borders? |
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| 15:30.19 | JohnFlux | bmf: tough? |
| 15:30.30 | JohnFlux | bmf: :) |
| 15:30.39 | JohnFlux | bmf: actually, maybe changing the window type |
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| 15:31.18 | JohnFlux | bmf: change the window type, and try the different types |
| 15:32.36 | bmf | JohnFlux: hm, how do I change the window type? |
| 15:32.42 | bmf | JohnFlux: like, for an xterm window |
| 15:33.06 | JohnFlux | bmf: right click on the title bar, advanced, special window settings |
| 15:33.20 | JohnFlux | workarrounds tab |
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| 15:33.43 | bmf | JohnFlux: Ok, I can see it now |
| 15:36.49 | foobaaz | Hi all, when composing an email with kmail I can not change dictionary for spell-check, it only offers me the default aspell dictionary although I have several aspell dictionaries installed, ideas anyone ? |
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| 15:40.39 | Nyle | hey good morning |
| 15:40.55 | mi | http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7664/snapshot2kv9.png |
| 15:41.18 | Nyle | I just installed (found out about) crystal kwin style. Its nice, transparent titlebars are good looking |
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| 15:43.21 | JohnFlux | bmf: btw, you know you can still resize and move windows with shortcuts, even if they don't have a border? |
| 15:43.28 | djouallah | hello, did anyone tested the last snapshot of kde (4.0.65) plasma krash the first time, then when lunched via krunner it come back with two panel ! |
| 15:43.34 | JohnFlux | bmf: alt+click and drag to move, for example |
| 15:44.22 | g2g591 | djouallah: well, im running an svn checkout from 2 days ago with the version 4.0.65, and i didn't have any wierd thing like that happen |
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| 15:45.26 | g2g591 | djouallah: because 4.0.65 is only >= 3 days ago at the earliest, there can't be that much difference |
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| 15:49.09 | Glock7 | i plug in an external usb dvd drive- (that worked yesterday), now when i put in a disk - the disc on the lower right appears and the "removeable device" dialog pops-up. however when i open in file manager i get- "/home/user/cdrw/dvd sbw-242 does not exists" |
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| 15:54.01 | bmf | JohnFlux: window type changing didn't help, but thanks a lot for the tips ;) |
| 15:54.21 | JohnFlux | bmf: maybe look for a window style to do what you want? |
| 15:54.32 | JohnFlux | bmf: or make your own window style |
| 15:54.37 | bmf | JohnFlux: hm, that's interesting |
| 15:54.45 | JohnFlux | bmf: or replace kwin with a different window manager :) |
| 15:54.48 | bmf | JohnFlux: great idea, thanks :) |
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| 16:09.58 | niels_ | How do I disable kwin sound notifications in kde4? |
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| 16:25.30 | Anarky | hi ! |
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| 16:26.08 | Anarky | I'm trying to compile ksirc whose CMakeList.txt does a "include (KDE4Defaults)" |
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| 16:26.22 | Anarky | how to tell cmake where to find this file ? |
| 16:26.51 | Anarky | it is in /usr/kde/4.0/share/apps/cmake/modules/ here (gentoo) |
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| 16:27.13 | tempsanity | ? |
| 16:27.45 | Anarky | ! |
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| 16:28.24 | ajksdflkj | hi |
| 16:28.32 | ajksdflkj | is there a way to hibernate from the command line? |
| 16:28.42 | tempsanity | hello, does anybody know this font: |
| 16:28.45 | tempsanity | http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/real_programmers.png |
| 16:28.48 | tempsanity | oops not this |
| 16:28.52 | Anarky | sysop: there must be |
| 16:28.56 | tempsanity | http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/sshotpw4.png |
| 16:28.59 | tempsanity | this font |
| 16:29.04 | Anarky | but you're not asking on the right channel |
| 16:29.10 | sysop | I would think so. but havnt how been able to find out how Anarky |
| 16:29.19 | Anarky | try your distribution's channel |
| 16:29.58 | Jucato | Anarky: try asking in #kde-devel (and are you reviving ksirc?) |
| 16:30.20 | Anarky | Jucato: oops, meant ksrik |
| 16:30.46 | Anarky | these 2 names are too close from each other :) |
| 16:30.50 | Jucato | :) |
| 16:31.03 | Jucato | you can either try #kde-devel or #gentoo-kde in any case |
| 16:31.12 | Jucato | (perhaps even #cmake) |
| 16:31.30 | Anarky | thanks |
| 16:31.37 | Anarky | I'll try on #kde-devel |
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| 16:35.56 | geggam | small issue... the desktop has a white layer on top of the wallpaper when one changes the wallpaper... |
| 16:36.08 | geggam | where would i look to fix that ? |
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| 16:42.44 | sysop | hey I found this on a fedora site. pm-hibernate does that sound right? |
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| 16:45.30 | bacon000 | what's a good app for listening to net radio stations like Shoutcast? something with an integrated directory of stations would be great. |
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| 16:48.56 | ccc | bacon000: amarok |
| 16:48.57 | jawee | bacon000: Amarok has several radio stations available |
| 16:49.05 | jawee | bacon000: shoutcast too I believe |
| 16:49.16 | ccc | indeed |
| 16:49.21 | bacon000 | hm, i must have missed that part. i can cut/paste URLs for stations, but i don't see a directory. |
| 16:49.31 | jawee | go to playlists |
| 16:49.37 | jawee | then go to radio streams |
| 16:49.40 | jawee | (on the sidebar) |
| 16:49.43 | bacon000 | eureka! thanks. |
| 16:49.51 | jawee | yuo then get a choice between cool-streams and shoutcast |
| 16:49.53 | jawee | welcome |
| 16:50.03 | bacon000 | exactly what i wanted. thx. |
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| 16:53.39 | arussel | I already had a konqueror instance running. I ran "run commands" and typed :"gg:foo". Now I got next to my cursor a moving konqueror icon, and about 20 processes like: |
| 16:53.44 | arussel | 1000 29308 1.0 0.4 128564 10612 ? S 17:52 0:00 kfmclient [kdeinit] openURL http://www.google.com/search?q |
| 16:54.03 | arussel | Can I stop it without login in/out ? |
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| 16:54.22 | Anarky | arussel: kill those processes |
| 16:54.39 | geggam | how do i keep the widgets from disappearing on a reboot ? |
| 16:54.39 | Anarky | the juming icon will stop atomatically after a little time |
| 16:54.44 | geggam | locking wont work |
| 16:55.12 | geggam | chmod -x the rc files keeps plasma from starting |
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| 17:04.31 | sysop | btw Anarky the command hibernate seems to do the trick. |
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| 17:05.11 | PhilRod_ | pinotree: pong |
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| 17:13.07 | neosix | hello! What is archive manager in KDE |
| 17:13.28 | neosix | I mean something like file-roller in gnome |
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| 17:15.27 | SSJ_GZ | neosix: arK. It's very buggy, though. |
| 17:15.28 | PhilRod_ | ark |
| 17:15.46 | neosix | aha, is there somethings else |
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| 17:29.53 | toolshakes | ? |
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| 17:33.14 | buscher_ | kamil problem: I have an empty email in local in-box that I cant delete, while fetching the email from a pop3 server I git dosconnected and the email is kind of shred, but that doesnt matter I just want to delete the email, help? :) (gentoo/kde-3.5.9/kmail-1.9.9) |
| 17:33.42 | buscher_ | + the email is always new |
| 17:34.02 | PhilRod_ | you might need to delete the index file |
| 17:34.23 | buscher_ | where is it? |
| 17:34.45 | PhilRod_ | I think there's a gui option to do it - give me a minute |
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| 17:37.57 | buscher_ | cant find it :/ |
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| 17:39.41 | T_D_H | im having alot of issues with kde4 and fedora 9, as soon as I try to change the backround , I get a white screen |
| 17:40.06 | T_D_H | I know fedora 9 is pre release |
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| 17:45.27 | buscher_ | k I moved .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.inbox.index away and it works now :) |
| 17:45.35 | PhilRod | cool |
| 17:45.43 | PhilRod | I can't find the gui option - I must have imagined it |
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| 17:47.07 | Asihiko-Dell | is there a way to set-up kdm to prompt for a username and then a password instead of listing all the users on the computer? |
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| 17:54.39 | kde_pepo | Asihiko-Dell, kdm configuration page in kcontrol center. |
| 17:55.00 | Asihiko-Dell | OK thanks I'll look there |
| 17:56.15 | Asihiko-Dell | um is that part of the Control Center or something different? |
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| 17:56.58 | kde_pepo | kcontrol, yes.... system area |
| 17:57.12 | jawee | Asihiko-Dell: depends on the distro. Just run kcontrol from alt+f2 to get it from any distro |
| 17:57.25 | jawee | Some distos, like Kubuntu, have a different one |
| 17:58.30 | Asihiko-Dell | thanks jawee it was named something other then kdm configuration, but I have it fixed now I think |
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| 18:12.13 | RockOn | kann mir jemand helfen wie ich mit backtrack ins internet komme |
| 18:13.05 | pinotree | english please |
| 18:13.42 | RockOn | can someone help me to connect to the internet whith backtrack2 |
| 18:14.00 | pinotree | backtrack2? what is it? |
| 18:14.34 | RockOn | live distro cd |
| 18:14.42 | RockOn | based on slackware |
| 18:14.48 | pinotree | please ask in the support of that distro |
| 18:15.35 | RockOn | can you give me a irc server name where i can get help? |
| 18:15.48 | pinotree | i don't even know that distro... |
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| 18:30.46 | mentis | hi |
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| 19:03.42 | echelon_ | how do you add keybindings on kde? |
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| 19:07.57 | Yatmai | Hi there |
| 19:07.59 | pinotree | echelon_: in any kde application, settings → configure shortcuts |
| 19:08.24 | echelon_ | what do you mean by any kde application? |
| 19:08.31 | echelon_ | i want it for the entire desktop |
| 19:08.39 | echelon_ | without any application running |
| 19:08.42 | pinotree | like? |
| 19:08.46 | SSJ_GZ | echelon_: What do you want to do exactly? |
| 19:08.52 | echelon_ | i'm trying run 3ddesktop |
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| 19:09.02 | echelon_ | but you need to run it from the command line |
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| 19:09.14 | echelon_ | so i just want to make a key binding to the executable |
| 19:09.49 | echelon_ | http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:09.53 | Yatmai | I want to lock session from console, I found "dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock" and this works, but how can I lock user's KDE session from root login ? |
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| 19:11.45 | SSJ_GZ | echelon_: KControl -> Regional and Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 19:11.52 | echelon_ | thanks |
| 19:11.56 | SSJ_GZ | echelon_: You can probably work out the rest for yourself :) |
| 19:12.04 | echelon_ | yeah, thanks :) |
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| 19:19.21 | tuxick | bah, after upgrading to kde 3.5.8 amarok crashes on "play" already |
| 19:19.29 | tuxick | i wonder if there's hope for the thing |
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| 19:23.04 | nilton | hi. how can i configure the taskbar in kde 4? |
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| 19:30.32 | shadok | tuxick: you could try to compile it yourself, maybe the problem comes from your distro's package |
| 19:30.53 | shadok | tuxick: try to see if there is a bug filed for your distro on amarok |
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| 19:37.53 | tuxick | shadok: it's on gentoo, and amarok has been unstable for me for years already :) |
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| 19:38.34 | shadok | have you tried to rename your amarok settings folder for amarok to recreate it ? |
| 19:38.41 | tuxick | and i don't think it's a dist issue |
| 19:38.43 | tuxick | sure |
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| 19:38.58 | tuxick | i *had* to start with fresh configs/database several times |
| 19:39.10 | tuxick | became so unstable it wouldn't even start |
| 19:39.14 | shadok | no, it's not a disro's issue, i use gentoo for 3 years now at least and never had the problem |
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| 19:39.31 | tuxick | well it sure lacks some robustness |
| 19:39.32 | shadok | start it in a console and pastebin the results |
| 19:39.54 | tuxick | i always start it in console, sec |
| 19:40.00 | shadok | yep |
| 19:40.16 | tuxick | great |
| 19:40.31 | tuxick | it's back to it previous trick no |
| 19:40.32 | ryanakca | hmm... I have my main account using kde4 from packages. Should it be safe to install kde from source locally onto that account? |
| 19:40.48 | tuxick | when i hit "play" it starts filling list with the same track until i kill it |
| 19:41.24 | tuxick | using all CPU and grow until box runs out of mem |
| 19:42.05 | shadok | try to rename/delete you ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok folder |
| 19:42.15 | tuxick | again? |
| 19:42.19 | shadok | and re-add your files manually |
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| 19:42.33 | shadok | ah sorry, didn't saw your sentences about that |
| 19:42.38 | tuxick | ok it seems to live now |
| 19:42.41 | tuxick | while it lasts |
| 19:43.14 | tuxick | using xine btw |
| 19:43.39 | shadok | i think it only can be a prolem in the settings files, it seems impossible to me that more than 3 versions doesn't work properly on your machien |
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| 19:45.01 | shadok | xine shouldn't be a problem too, same case as amarok, few versions can't give the same problem imho, it should had been reported and corrected already |
| 19:45.30 | tuxick | 1.4.8 [___stripped][validity: 0.74][frames: 46][xine] |
| 19:45.41 | tuxick | Amarok has crashed! We are terribly sorry about this :( |
| 19:45.43 | tuxick | bla bla |
| 19:45.45 | shadok | what about your hardware ? weird chipset or something ? |
| 19:46.06 | tuxick | i can't imagine, since i had same problems on my previous system |
| 19:46.12 | shadok | hmm are you ok with xine ? does it play the same files correctly ? |
| 19:46.24 | tuxick | ooh yea no problem |
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| 19:46.50 | shadok | :/ |
| 19:47.01 | tuxick | #3 <signal handler called> |
| 19:47.01 | tuxick | #4 0xb638d51d in QListViewItem::itemAbove () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 19:47.01 | tuxick | #5 0xb7db006d in PlaylistItem::PlaylistItem () from /usr/lib/libamarok.so.0 |
| 19:47.09 | tuxick | playlist is the unstable part somehow |
| 19:47.38 | shadok | didn't you mask some package relating to qt ? do you have problems with oteher qt apps ? |
| 19:47.44 | tuxick | i bet it's the classical unchecked/null pointer |
| 19:47.46 | shadok | *other |
| 19:47.52 | tuxick | no, it's always been just amarok |
| 19:48.00 | tuxick | well, konqueror crashes hard on acid3 |
| 19:48.04 | tuxick | but that doesn't count ;p |
| 19:48.26 | pinotree | update to kde 3.5.9 |
| 19:48.31 | shadok | hehe i didn't try it already but i'm going to :) |
| 19:48.41 | tuxick | hmm haven't tried with this box |
| 19:48.45 | shadok | i'm in 3.5.9 btw |
| 19:49.02 | tuxick | yup kaboom |
| 19:49.11 | tuxick | mind, so far only tested on gentoo boxes |
| 19:49.15 | tuxick | with 3.5.7/8 |
| 19:49.57 | shadok | that should at least 4 versions of amarok if you're in ~amd64/386 profile |
| 19:50.19 | tuxick | shadok: 3.5.9 isn't in 'stable' on gentoo, i don't need the acid test |
| 19:50.29 | tuxick | pinotree: i meant you ;) |
| 19:50.39 | pinotree | hm? |
| 19:50.50 | tuxick | pinotree: about 3.5.9 |
| 19:50.53 | shadok | shadok: just to test it to see what it does, firefox 3b3 gives me 58% |
| 19:51.22 | shadok | tuxick: he wants you to update for amarok i suppose |
| 19:51.36 | pinotree | no |
| 19:51.46 | pinotree | <tuxick> well, konqueror crashes hard on acid3 <pinotree> update to kde 3.5.9 |
| 19:51.47 | tuxick | think that was about acid test |
| 19:51.49 | tuxick | yea |
| 19:51.56 | shadok | oops :) |
| 19:52.07 | tuxick | at least it's good to know that problem was handled |
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| 19:52.47 | tuxick | i suppose amarok can use different db backens? |
| 19:52.51 | tuxick | sqlite? b0rkeley? |
| 19:52.56 | shadok | the test is not ok at all but i don't care much |
| 19:53.05 | shadok | tuxick: i use sqlite |
| 19:53.09 | jazka | I use mysql |
| 19:53.11 | tuxick | FF gets 50/100 |
| 19:53.28 | daSKreech | Ie gets 6 ^_^ |
| 19:53.31 | jazka | lol |
| 19:53.42 | shadok | hehe |
| 19:53.55 | tuxick | build log suggests it's using sqlite here |
| 19:54.12 | tuxick | at least it builds that bit |
| 19:54.21 | tuxick | sqlite3.c:7328: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 19:54.23 | jazka | you can see it on options |
| 19:54.24 | tuxick | etc etc |
| 19:54.32 | tuxick | sqlite3.c:10974: warning: missing initializer |
| 19:54.36 | jazka | settings -> configure -> collection |
| 19:54.37 | tuxick | ah lessee |
| 19:55.04 | daSKreech | somone just blogged about webkit having the highest known passmark for acid3 |
| 19:55.11 | daSKreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.15 | shadok | what's your arch in gentoo ? maybe we could try with my binary (dunno if the differences in versions _will_ cause problems) |
| 19:55.46 | tuxick | i don't see settings -> configure -> collection |
| 19:55.52 | jazka | configure amarok |
| 19:56.01 | tuxick | shadok: naw, that's asking for problems |
| 19:56.09 | tuxick | and mind you, it's been unstable for me for years |
| 19:56.12 | tuxick | on 2 systems |
| 19:56.18 | jazka | daSKreech: konqueror4 svn (built today) 63/100 |
| 19:56.20 | shadok | that very strange |
| 19:56.24 | tuxick | only thing in comming is the gentoo bit |
| 19:56.30 | tuxick | with rather conservative flags |
| 19:56.31 | jazka | 47 at first, but it climbs to 63 if you wate a while |
| 19:56.43 | daSKreech | Thats not too bad |
| 19:56.52 | jazka | 67 with Firefox 3 yesterday's snapshot |
| 19:56.56 | jazka | b5pre |
| 19:57.05 | tuxick | CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" |
| 19:57.14 | tuxick | i'd say that's conservative anyway |
| 19:57.18 | daSKreech | Booo we can't beat a dinosaur? |
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| 19:58.05 | AlexElliott | Yeah, 63 here too. What I wanted to check out was the sunspider benchmark, had a look at some other browsers and was interested in how trunk konqy got on, but it crashed. |
| 19:58.10 | tuxick | aha there, sqlite indeed |
| 19:58.14 | shadok | tuxick: right, it is |
| 19:58.28 | jazka | tuxick: what if you change it |
| 19:58.34 | jazka | well dunno if you compiled mysql support or so |
| 19:58.42 | tuxick | but tbh i suspect the qt bit |
| 19:58.47 | jazka | and you would need to set up the database too |
| 19:58.54 | tuxick | sounds like work :) |
| 19:59.03 | daSKreech | So when are we getting a KDEBrowser ... for the web!! |
| 19:59.25 | tuxick | huh? |
| 20:00.00 | tuxick | Your query for "amarok crash" resulted in 20 matches (we currently stop at a maximum of 20 matches). |
| 20:00.19 | tuxick | LOL |
| 20:00.20 | tuxick | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.25 | tuxick | NORMAL |
| 20:00.33 | tuxick | amacrackhead |
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| 20:03.01 | tuxick | i don't see docs about making it use mysql, just set up database and give it CREATE TABLE rights? |
| 20:03.23 | jazka | http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo |
| 20:03.41 | tuxick | silly me checked man and /usr/share/doc |
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| 20:06.50 | tuxick | jazka: i guessed right, GRANT ALL ON amarok.* TO amarok@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'PASSWORD_CHANGE_ME'; |
| 20:06.58 | jazka | yup |
| 20:06.59 | tuxick | the php way! |
| 20:09.05 | tuxick | that's a bit icky |
| 20:09.19 | tuxick | ok lessee |
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| 20:10.58 | tuxick | but uhm, i wonder *why* use mysql? to access records with other apps? |
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| 20:11.11 | tuxick | sqlite looked perfect for the job |
| 20:11.27 | jazka | maybe it's a bit faster with large collections |
| 20:11.50 | tuxick | 16k entries here |
| 20:11.55 | jazka | 12k here |
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| 20:14.23 | tuxick | switched to mysql backend, it rescanned collection |
| 20:14.33 | tuxick | and all it took to crash it was click on Play |
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| 20:17.18 | daSKreech | tuxick: don't click enable focus follws mind |
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| 20:18.16 | tuxick | lessee where that is |
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| 20:18.45 | daSKreech | :-D |
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| 20:20.00 | tuxick | can't find that |
| 20:20.09 | tuxick | bah, why did madman die |
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| 20:25.11 | daSKreech | tuxick: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1860 |
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| 20:27.25 | strav | he. Any reason why any modification I make with systemsettings cannot be applied (I just changed the ownership of every kde settings folder I could thought about to my user) |
| 20:27.51 | tuxick | daSKreech: ok that explains why i didn't find such option |
| 20:28.03 | tuxick | anyway, giving up now |
| 20:28.15 | tuxick | i'll wait for kde4 and try it then |
| 20:28.16 | daSKreech | #amarok.radio ? |
| 20:28.42 | tuxick | i use a LOT of open source, most of which is buggy |
| 20:28.51 | tuxick | i can't spend too much time on bugs |
| 20:29.40 | tuxick | there was this simple kde playlist thingie trying to remember name of |
| 20:30.06 | jazka | juk? |
| 20:30.11 | tuxick | yeah thanks |
| 20:30.16 | tuxick | that doesn't crash :) |
| 20:30.36 | daSKreech | I still want the konqueror sidebar player back :( |
| 20:30.40 | tuxick | LOL |
| 20:30.41 | tuxick | juk: ERROR: Unable to save covers to disk! |
| 20:30.41 | tuxick | juk: ERROR: Communication problem with juk, it probably crashed. |
| 20:30.45 | jazka | lol |
| 20:30.49 | daSKreech | ha ha |
| 20:31.07 | tuxick | i'm the reverse croussos |
| 20:31.16 | tuxick | or what was the name, everything he touched turned to gold |
| 20:31.33 | daSKreech | midas |
| 20:32.02 | tuxick | hmm, got my mythology mixed up then |
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| 20:35.45 | SmArt | wow |
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| 20:37.26 | SmArt | Cool screenshots |
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| 20:38.12 | tuxick | where? |
| 20:38.32 | majnoon | i have this prob screenshot here ::: http://imagebin.ca/view/JuXyw-K.html |
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| 20:39.10 | Rapp | when is kontact for kde 4 scheduled? |
| 20:39.43 | SSJ_GZ | Rapp: 4.1, hopefully. |
| 20:40.07 | Rapp | ok, thanks |
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| 20:44.01 | tuxick | daSKreech: they stole it? |
| 20:44.12 | daSKreech | tuxick: yes |
| 20:44.18 | tuxick | the bastards |
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| 20:56.09 | Eckos | when I rotate my middle mouse button it changes applications. How can I remove it? |
| 20:56.59 | tuxick | doesn't that depend on where you do that? |
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| 21:01.17 | kde_pepo | Eckos, switches desktops? |
| 21:01.53 | Kira__ | hi i have KDE 3.5 running how to make compiz autostart? somebody have usual link? at gnome its so easy to make autostart |
| 21:01.54 | Eckos | no the windows itself. like KDevelop to konsole. I wanan stop it if I hit the mouse button doing that |
| 21:02.41 | kde_pepo | Eckos, maybe your distro has changed KDE default settings... look in control center. |
| 21:03.04 | Eckos | im on gentoo |
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| 21:15.03 | downs | hi |
| 21:15.26 | downs | I'm trying to set some key combination to refer to some unicode character; any idea how I can do that? |
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| 21:16.04 | downs | (specifically, alt-gr + shift + 1 -> subscript 1, as opposed to the current ¡) |
| 21:16.27 | PhilRod | twiddle with xmodmap |
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| 21:17.04 | downs | okay |
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| 21:19.43 | thiago_home | Compose, ^, 1 will make a superscript 1 (not subscribt) |
| 21:20.23 | downs | I don't have a compose key. |
| 21:20.24 | downs | :D |
| 21:20.34 | thiago_home | assign one |
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| 21:20.45 | thiago_home | I usually make it the right-side Win key |
| 21:21.02 | thiago_home | if I don't have one, I use Shift+AltGr |
| 21:21.08 | thiago_home | (as opposed to AltGr+Shift) |
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| 21:22.02 | anom01y | hmm |
| 21:22.06 | anom01y | why does kde turn pink when I lock the session and log in as a different user |
| 21:22.15 | anom01y | I tried ctrl-alt-esc and it ist still pink |
| 21:22.25 | nosey | how do you change the pixel change from root |
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| 21:23.43 | pedepy | wha |
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| 21:25.25 | nosey | how do you change the pixels |
| 21:25.40 | downs | photoshop! |
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| 21:26.22 | nosey | no everything looks stretched vertically and i want to make it even |
| 21:26.49 | downs | there's a tool for that but I don't remember it. |
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| 21:27.28 | anom01y | ok nm now I am getting an error |
| 21:27.31 | anom01y | Will not save configuration. |
| 21:27.31 | anom01y | Configuration file "/home/lsemple/.kde/share/config/konsolerc" not writable. |
| 21:27.43 | nosey | you dont remeber where it is or called |
| 21:27.47 | Tolsome | Ist jemand da für das KDE Desktop Projekt -> Umsetzung auf Windows? |
| 21:27.50 | thiago_home | anom01y: is it writable? |
| 21:27.55 | thiago_home | Tolsome: in English, please? |
| 21:28.05 | thiago_home | nosey: describe in more detail please |
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| 21:28.11 | anom01y | no |
| 21:28.15 | anom01y | I cant do anything anymore |
| 21:28.22 | thiago_home | anom01y: make it writable |
| 21:28.32 | anom01y | I cant even open my home folder |
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| 21:32.31 | nosey | my display settings are stuck at - 1920 *1200 screen size and a 60 Hz refresh rate. these settings make everything stretched out vertically.im a beginner and i dont really know what to do |
| 21:32.46 | thiago_home | nosey: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:32.50 | Tolsome | ist Carsten Niehaus zu gegen? |
| 21:32.52 | thiago_home | that is not a KDE issue |
| 21:33.00 | thiago_home | Tolsome: that's still not English. |
| 21:33.12 | Tolsome | is Carten Niehaus here? |
| 21:33.22 | Tolsome | *Carsten, sorry |
| 21:33.27 | thiago_home | I don't think so. |
| 21:33.47 | Tolsome | and Holger Schörder? |
| 21:34.17 | thiago_home | I don't think so either. |
| 21:34.26 | thiago_home | most developers don't come to #kde |
| 21:34.52 | Tolsome | where are they most? |
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| 21:34.57 | nosey | what do i do with - edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf-please explain |
| 21:35.25 | thiago_home | nosey: change the resolution configuration there. |
| 21:35.37 | thiago_home | nosey: you should probably ask for more help in the channel of your distribution. |
| 21:35.48 | thiago_home | Tolsome: #kde-devel or, in the case of Windows discussions, probably #kde-windows |
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| 21:36.13 | Tolsome | ah, thank you |
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| 21:38.47 | silver_hook | I just notices there's no PyKDE package in KDE4 ...has it been replaced with Kross or with a ultra-nicer (then PyKDE) bindings package? |
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| 22:00.20 | maki_d | anyone knows some nice kommander script for batch converting of video's |
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| 22:08.46 | mbostwick | hi how can I view a users information ? |
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| 22:20.53 | osh_ | Is there a key combo to open the start menu on kde4? |
| 22:21.43 | wraund | dunno |
| 22:21.49 | damjan | alt-f1 |
| 22:21.52 | wraund | oh sorry wrong channe xD |
| 22:22.07 | wraund | thought this was a physics sim chan xD |
| 22:22.10 | wraund | damn you split-screen |
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| 22:23.35 | osh_ | damjan: Was that for me? Does that work for KDE4 or only KDE3? I think I've used that in kde3 but it doesn't work in kde4. |
| 22:23.54 | damjan | oh sorry that's for kde3 |
| 22:24.33 | osh_ | damjan: Right. Thanks anyway. |
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| 22:50.12 | tuxick | what's the name for the volume slide? want to set a hotkey for that |
| 22:50.37 | tuxick | don't want it to pop up entire kmix |
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| 22:51.52 | lvh | hi :-) |
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| 22:52.38 | tuxick | lo |
| 22:52.40 | lvh | I'm using Okular and so far I'm very happy with it (it allows underlining/highlighting my pdf documents even though adobe reader says it's impossible) |
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| 22:53.00 | VelcroMan | Where are the k menu editor binfile? |
| 22:53.11 | lvh | i'm just wondering if its possible to edit/add the review tools (such as underlining and highlighting)? |
| 22:53.33 | pinotree | for now no, we provide only those |
| 22:54.43 | lvh | ah, okay, thanks. |
| 22:55.01 | lvh | is there any plan to put these tools in a config file instead of hardcoding them? |
| 22:55.38 | pinotree | they are not hardcoded :) but that's more or less what we can offer |
| 22:55.46 | pinotree | (at the moment) |
| 22:55.51 | lvh | I'm assuming making orange/green/blue highlighters in is relatively trivial |
| 22:56.09 | lvh | this highlighting data is stored in the pdf, right? |
| 22:56.17 | pinotree | nope |
| 22:56.29 | pinotree | we can't touch the documents we open |
| 22:56.56 | lvh | well, i've found the apps/okular/docdata folder, and there's a file that looks like its named after my pdf, but it doesnt say anything about highlighting |
| 22:57.05 | tin | so, i told katapult not to display in the systray, and now i can't find a setting to get it back in there |
| 22:57.27 | lvh | ooh, there's a second one with <annotationList> |
| 22:57.30 | pinotree | lvh: they are there :) |
| 22:57.44 | lvh | if they're not hardcoded, where are they? |
| 22:57.50 | tin | unless there is something to _add_ to ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc |
| 22:58.32 | pinotree | the tools? $prefix/share/okular |
| 22:58.33 | Jucato | tin: Ctrl+Space (to launch Katapult), Ctrl+C to bring up the configure popup menu |
| 22:58.37 | lvh | if they're not hardcoded i'm assuming its trivial to go from "a yellow highlighter" to "yellow, green, purple, blue and octarine highlighters" |
| 22:58.42 | pinotree | $prefix/share/apps/okular |
| 22:59.21 | lvh | bookmarks.xml bookmarks.xml.bak docdata |
| 22:59.30 | lvh | is what's in that directory for me |
| 22:59.56 | pinotree | $prefix is the installation prefix |
| 23:00.01 | lvh | ah :) |
| 23:00.04 | tin | thanks |
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| 23:00.37 | lvh | tools.xml? |
| 23:00.38 | lvh | looks like it |
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| 23:03.41 | lvh | thanks pinotree, keep up the good work on okular. |
| 23:03.54 | pinotree | thanks to you, that use okular! |
| 23:04.03 | lvh | positively amazed that okular does what adobe reader doesn't |
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| 23:04.18 | lvh | oh, btw |
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| 23:04.34 | lvh | seeing as you cant actually edit the pdf, and I think i'm using the gs backend (ill check) |
| 23:04.41 | lvh | do annotations show up on print? |
| 23:04.46 | lvh | I would think not |
| 23:05.00 | pinotree | nope |
| 23:05.19 | lvh | because if you could, you could just make a new ps, from it make a new pdf, and then save that pdf in place of the old one |
| 23:06.55 | lvh | is there some way to have a local "install prefix", so I don't need to change systemwide config files? |
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| 23:08.58 | tuxick | lvh: i thought pretty much all stuff would first check local config |
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| 23:18.01 | VelcroMan | Are the KDE Menu Editor a binary file/program that i can start from bash? |
| 23:18.23 | Jucato | VelcroMan: kmenuedit |
| 23:18.35 | VelcroMan | Ok, thanks a lot Jucato! :D |
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| 23:26.02 | daSKreech_ | hi Jucato |
| 23:28.06 | Jucato | hi daSKreech_ |
| 23:28.11 | Jucato | and bye as well |
| 23:28.42 | daSKreech_ | bye |
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| 23:38.07 | sCHindler | anyone> can i change value in cron file? |
| 23:38.29 | sCHindler | anyone> tmp dir seems to be taking too much space.... |
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| 23:51.08 | daSKreech_ | sCHindler: Sorry? to edit cron there is kcron or crontab -e |
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| 23:51.56 | sCHindler | can i delete just anything from tmp? as long as persmission is not denied? |
| 23:52.51 | tin | sCHindler: depends |
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| 23:53.20 | tin | if X is running, and KDE, there will be some sockets and pipes in there that they want/need |
| 23:54.16 | daSKreech_ | sCHindler: No |
| 23:54.25 | daSKreech_ | You "can" |
| 23:54.35 | daSKreech_ | should you is another question |
| 23:55.11 | sCHindler | daskreech> i had trouble accessing earlier.. so i used failsafe to delete a lot of files... |
| 23:55.47 | sCHindler | daskreech> there is a directory called orbit-( name) |
| 23:55.54 | tin | sCHindler: if you do want to clean out /tmp, do it from your OSes single user mode |
| 23:56.10 | sCHindler | tin> single user mode? |
| 23:56.15 | daSKreech_ | sCHindler: put a script in your start up to clean tmp on bootup |
| 23:56.27 | tin | what os/distro do you use? |
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| 23:56.46 | sCHindler | tin> suse. |
| 23:57.12 | tin | is there a boot up menu? and an option marked recovery or single user mode? |
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| 23:58.15 | sCHindler | tin> nope. i can adjust bootup menu using grub,,,, let me see options with in kde. |
| 23:58.42 | tin | yeah, the grub menu |
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