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| 00:02.29 | Rekahsoft | hi all |
| 00:02.46 | Rekahsoft | does konquerer use webkit? |
| 00:02.52 | Rekahsoft | in KDE 4.0? |
| 00:03.36 | boom1992 | no |
| 00:04.00 | Rekahsoft | is there plans to merge Khtml and webkit? |
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| 00:11.39 | FiNeX | n8 |
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| 00:26.41 | Temet | Guys, quick question! Where on hell is the top right animated icon in konqueror stored on the hardrive???? |
| 00:27.11 | Temet | s/on/the |
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| 00:29.46 | luyt | It's called a 'throbber' |
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| 00:31.19 | Temet | Oh, I didn't know. I think in French we don't have a word for that. But thanks, it will be much easier to STFW now luyt ;) |
| 00:31.53 | PhilRod | hrm, I'm not sure I'd like to try putting "throbber" into google... |
| 00:32.03 | SimAtWork | I AM FREE |
| 00:32.04 | SimAtWork | goodbye all |
| 00:32.49 | luyt | Temet: locate /kde.png should find them |
| 00:32.58 | Temet | ... |
| 00:33.01 | Temet | Hum |
| 00:33.05 | Temet | It's a png ? |
| 00:33.09 | luyt | Yes |
| 00:33.11 | Temet | o_O |
| 00:33.16 | Temet | But it's animated |
| 00:33.18 | luyt | subdivided in many subpictures |
| 00:33.25 | luyt | Have a look at one and you'll understand |
| 00:33.55 | luyt | kview /usr/local/share/icons/kdeclassic/32x32/actions/kde.png <--- did it for me |
| 00:35.10 | luyt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber |
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| 00:38.54 | Temet | Ok, I finally found it! THanks luyt |
| 00:39.18 | Aerdan | people should really start using MNG. ;) |
| 00:39.53 | kevin_ | hello? |
| 00:40.06 | kevin_ | is this a help forum? |
| 00:40.30 | Aerdan | Sure looks like it. :) |
| 00:40.36 | kevin_ | sweet |
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| 00:40.58 | Aerdan | Although, I wouldn't call it a 'forum', since IRC chatrooms are called 'channels'... ;) |
| 00:41.16 | alexbobp | How can I configure the "system menu" items to open in konqueror instead of dolphin? |
| 00:41.17 | kevin_ | Aerdan. I am unable to mount scsi drive |
| 00:41.28 | alexbobp | and on a related note, what (if any) are the benefits of dolphin over konqueror? |
| 00:41.29 | kevin_ | formatted as ext2 |
| 00:41.51 | Aerdan | alexbobp: well, dolphin's got that breadcrumbs widget. :) |
| 00:41.53 | luyt | Alex: Control Center / File Associations |
| 00:42.02 | kevin_ | oh. make a note of that. |
| 00:42.12 | Aerdan | kevin_: I can't help you; I don't have any SCSI drives. :\ |
| 00:42.35 | luyt | SCSI disks should be mountable as any other storage devices, using the mount command |
| 00:42.44 | Aerdan | [well, I do, but they're for my PowerMac 8600, which is currently dead.] |
| 00:42.48 | luyt | You do have to know the correct device name, tho |
| 00:42.54 | Aerdan | [I don't have any SCSI controllers for my PC. :p] |
| 00:43.11 | kevin_ | it is called sdc so, the bash command is mnt |
| 00:43.20 | Aerdan | no, it's not. |
| 00:43.20 | luyt | You have SCSI disks, but not a SCSI controller? |
| 00:43.35 | kevin_ | right? |
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| 00:43.41 | alexbobp | luyt: I can't figure out the file association to change for directories |
| 00:43.53 | luyt | moment I'll have a look |
| 00:44.21 | Aerdan | luyt: well, they've got adapters, but I don't really feel like getting my Mac out and swiping one of the drives to see if they work with my IDE controller. ;) |
| 00:44.36 | Temet | In fact Aerdan , I was looking for an mng at the beginning |
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| 00:44.40 | luyt | Control Center / KDE Components / File assocs / Inode / Directory |
| 00:44.48 | kevin_ | it was working sweet until the drive got full and now i can't access the drive. argh |
| 00:44.48 | Aerdan | Temet: hehe |
| 00:45.10 | luyt | either add Konq in the list if it's not there already, and move it up |
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| 00:46.42 | kevin_ | i like this flavor of linux. debian is a close second. |
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| 00:47.26 | luyt | Do you get any error message when you try to mount your scsi disk? Which command do you use to mount it? |
| 00:47.36 | alexbobp | luyt: thank you very much! |
| 00:47.42 | luyt | alex yw |
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| 00:48.53 | kevin_ | mnt |
| 00:48.56 | scott__ | need help install a good dvd ripper like 1click |
| 00:48.57 | Aerdan | uh |
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| 00:49.03 | luyt | Kevin: What? 'mnt' ? |
| 00:49.08 | Aerdan | you should be using 'mount'; see 'man mount' for how to use it. |
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| 00:49.40 | kevin_ | I had done a cut and paste from a help page i am not sure. what would you suggest |
| 00:49.48 | kevin_ | ? |
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| 00:50.28 | luyt | I would suggest reading up about mounting disk devices on your system. |
| 00:50.56 | luyt | Which BTW isn't a KDE-specific item. |
| 00:51.04 | luyt | I want to die in my sleep, as my grandfather did. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his bus. |
| 00:51.09 | kevin_ | i have the man page open now. sorry for being noob |
| 00:51.17 | luyt | No need to grovel. |
| 00:51.21 | Aerdan | luyt: haha :) |
| 00:51.23 | kevin_ | i will give the error |
| 00:51.37 | luyt | The exact command you give, and the error. |
| 00:51.54 | Aerdan | And as the topic says, use a pastebin if it's over 3 lines total. |
| 00:52.00 | luyt | Oh yes please |
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| 00:53.08 | kevin_ | mount: can't find sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab <-----displayed after "mount sdc1" |
| 00:53.37 | luyt | Aha. Usually you use a syntax like 'mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt' |
| 00:53.54 | luyt | The mount command expects a mountpoint where it can mount the device |
| 00:54.08 | kevin_ | oh yep |
| 00:54.18 | luyt | and are you sure the SCSI harddisk is /dev/sdc1 ? |
| 00:54.22 | kevin_ | commencing revised syntax |
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| 00:54.43 | kevin_ | brb |
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| 01:00.38 | kevin_ | ok this is the error I am presented with : |
| 01:00.38 | kevin_ | wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, |
| 01:00.38 | kevin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.39 | kevin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.39 | kevin_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:01.05 | ganymede | you get a D |
| 01:01.13 | ganymede | for not using pastebin |
| 01:01.58 | luyt | kevin_: Either your devicename is not complete enough, or the filesystem on the disk needs you to specify more options to mount |
| 01:02.27 | luyt | try 'ls /dev/sdc1*' and see if you get any partitioned device names |
| 01:02.57 | kevin_ | ok here goes |
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| 01:03.06 | luyt | wait |
| 01:03.10 | ganymede | what names get assigned to block devices after you have more than 8 hard disks? i thought it only goes up to /dev/sdh or sdg or whatever the eighth letter is |
| 01:04.37 | kevin_ | "/dev/sdc1" is the name |
| 01:05.03 | luyt | and the only name? You don't have /dev/sdc1a, /dev/sdc1b etc??? |
| 01:05.51 | kevin_ | yes that is my swap space |
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| 01:06.46 | Aerdan | ...why are you trying to mount swap? |
| 01:06.52 | luyt | Like I said earlier, I dont have E.S.P (extra-sensory perception) |
| 01:06.53 | Aerdan | you use swapon to add swap. :) |
| 01:07.51 | kevin_ | no, that is also on the disk too. |
| 01:07.51 | kevin_ | I appreciate your patience |
| 01:07.51 | Aerdan | ...dude. /dev/sdc is the drive. /dev/sdc1 is a partition on the drive. |
| 01:07.58 | Aerdan | Which partition are you trying to mount? |
| 01:08.04 | kevin_ | sdc1 |
| 01:08.17 | kevin_ | that is my back up 300 gb |
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| 01:09.28 | Roey | heh |
| 01:09.29 | luyt | hehe, on BSD I have this /dev/ad0s1a, which is the first partition in the first slice (and BSD partitions are not DOS partitions) |
| 01:10.15 | derek__ | kevin_: where did you get /dev/sdc1? |
| 01:10.34 | kevin_ | hmm? |
| 01:10.39 | derek__ | kevin_: and what is on there? is it ntfs? |
| 01:10.40 | kevin_ | my friend |
| 01:10.43 | Aerdan | luyt: BSD is weird. ;) |
| 01:10.46 | kevin_ | no ext2 |
| 01:10.51 | Aerdan | ... |
| 01:10.58 | kevin_ | and swap |
| 01:11.01 | Aerdan | kevin_: read the manpage thoroughly. |
| 01:11.02 | kevin_ | that is it |
| 01:11.14 | derek__ | kevin_: is it a second hard drive? |
| 01:11.16 | Aerdan | okay, that's it. I'm biting the bullet. :| |
| 01:11.18 | kevin_ | yes |
| 01:11.26 | kevin_ | 3rd |
| 01:11.27 | Aerdan | kevin_: go back to Windows, you're too stupid for UNIX. :D |
| 01:11.44 | luyt | I disagree. |
| 01:11.46 | derek__ | Aerdan: you were much more helpful when you bit it |
| 01:11.53 | kevin_ | thanks. appreciate that |
| 01:12.01 | luyt | But don't expect to be spoonfed while running Linux or BSD. |
| 01:12.01 | derek__ | kevin_: what are the other drives called? |
| 01:12.10 | Aerdan | derek__: :p |
| 01:12.18 | kevin_ | geez |
| 01:12.40 | derek__ | kevin_: run mount and you will see |
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| 01:12.54 | derek__ | mount with no parameters |
| 01:13.21 | kevin_ | type "mount" in bash |
| 01:13.27 | derek__ | kevin_: yes |
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| 01:13.39 | luyt | kevin_: Your mounting problems really belong to the channel of your distro (perhaps) or a more general Linux channel (whatever you're running). Mounting disk drives doesn't have much to do with KDE really. |
| 01:13.46 | kevin_ | ok at this point I will try anything except format |
| 01:14.02 | derek__ | kevin_: slow down. it ain't that complicated |
| 01:14.08 | luyt | No need to worry, this might just not be the optimal channel for your problem at hand. |
| 01:15.08 | kevin_ | /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw) |
| 01:15.12 | kevin_ | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 01:15.16 | kevin_ | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) |
| 01:15.16 | kevin_ | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) |
| 01:15.16 | kevin_ | /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) |
| 01:15.16 | kevin_ | tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) |
| 01:15.16 | kevin_ | none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) |
| 01:15.16 | kevin_ | sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) |
| 01:15.19 | Aerdan | ... |
| 01:15.40 | kevin_ | the scsi drive are on a pci controller |
| 01:15.45 | Aerdan | Can't you read? The topic *specifically says* to use a pastebin for pastes over 3 lines. And even links to one for your convenience. |
| 01:15.59 | ganymede | and i already gave you a D for pasting here |
| 01:16.00 | kevin_ | ok. |
| 01:16.07 | kevin_ | won't happen again |
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| 01:16.44 | derek__ | kevin_: what hardware do you have? |
| 01:16.47 | Beholder | can someone tell me how to run KDE4 on Ubuntu? I installed it with Synaptic, but can't run it from GDM |
| 01:17.01 | Aerdan | Beholder: There's an article on kubuntu.org |
| 01:17.02 | Beholder | not sure how to add it as a session |
| 01:17.20 | Beholder | no, the article on kubuntu.org only explains installing for Kubuntu |
| 01:17.21 | Aerdan | In fact, here it is: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php |
| 01:17.27 | Beholder | i'm using Ubuntu |
| 01:17.34 | Aerdan | ...Uh, dude. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are *the same distributions*. |
| 01:17.38 | Beholder | i know |
| 01:17.42 | Beholder | but i'm using GDM |
| 01:17.43 | Aerdan | Just, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with kde by default. |
| 01:17.44 | Beholder | not KDM |
| 01:18.00 | Beholder | my problem is adding KDE to GDM as a session |
| 01:18.03 | Aerdan | ...The. Instructions. Still. Work. For. GDM. As. With. KDM. |
| 01:18.10 | MinceR | and a different boot/shutdown logo ;) |
| 01:18.34 | Beholder | if they worked, i wouldn't be in this channel asking questions |
| 01:18.41 | Aerdan | They do work. I've done it. |
| 01:18.51 | Aerdan | If they don't work for you, clearly you are doing something wrong. |
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| 01:20.46 | luyt | Gnubuntu? Does it exist already? |
| 01:21.01 | kevin_ | inconceivable can you say that for me Aerdan |
| 01:21.13 | luyt | or Zulubuntu? |
| 01:21.15 | kevin_ | real loud don't be afraid |
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| 01:21.32 | Aerdan | kevin_: Sorry, I don't take recording requests. :) |
| 01:21.51 | kevin_ | have you seen the princess bride? |
| 01:21.56 | Aerdan | Yup. |
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| 01:22.23 | Aerdan | luyt: not as far as I know. and I think GNU/Hurd is a failure, anyhow. ;) |
| 01:23.27 | luyt | I once read about the Hurd, from what I remember it's a microkernel |
| 01:23.50 | Aerdan | which version? 1, 2, or 3? :) |
| 01:23.50 | luyt | with everything else (filesystemdrivers, networkdrivers, etc) in userland |
| 01:25.02 | luyt | and if I remember well there are also linuxen who are modeled after a microkernel. I forget the distro name, but I can remember I downloaded a liveCD and it ran pretty well on my PC. |
| 01:25.02 | ganymede | i think it means drivers go in user space |
| 01:25.07 | ganymede | but wikipedia knows all |
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| 01:25.53 | MinceR | hurd has a microkernel too, and at least it isn't just a buzzword there. :> |
| 01:26.00 | luyt | I had a look a Gobolinux today, which redefines the directory structure to look more application-centered |
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| 01:32.15 | MinceR | i keep looking at it |
| 01:32.34 | MinceR | i'm waiting for it to become mature enough to run without too much hacking |
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| 02:19.29 | daskreech | Anyone on KDE4? |
| 02:20.52 | Armand | Not yet.. >_< |
| 02:21.58 | daskreech | Well why the blazes not? :) |
| 02:22.21 | Armand | I'm waiting for proper release, and until I can install Fedora 8. |
| 02:23.41 | daskreech | Aerdan: :-) |
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| 02:24.33 | Aerdan | [I learned the hard way not to run KDE4 outside of a virtual machine yesterday... Seems you can cause KDE to ignore input devices by alt-tabbing too much before the window list pops up. Whooops. :p |
| 02:25.28 | Aerdan | haven't filed a bug report about it yet cos I want to reproduce it in a controlled environment first. ;) |
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| 02:25.56 | daskreech | Aerdan: well I found one just as bad I think |
| 02:26.07 | daskreech | Pressing Ctrl+M disables the Ctrl Button |
| 02:26.29 | Aerdan | whoops. ;) |
| 02:26.37 | daskreech | Yeah |
| 02:27.02 | daskreech | which of course means I can't get the menus back :) |
| 02:27.49 | Aerdan | that's pretty bad, yeah. ;) |
| 02:29.28 | daskreech | Good thing you can easily crash applications :) |
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| 02:29.58 | Aerdan | I haven't done that yet, though I *have* managed to cause plasma to segfault. [No, I don't know how either.] |
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| 02:31.35 | daskreech | Aerdan: hey can you alt+shift+tab ? |
| 02:32.01 | Aerdan | nope. |
| 02:32.40 | Aerdan | starting up the vm now. ;) |
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| 02:39.52 | Aerdan | woohoo! caused a segfault. :) |
| 02:40.47 | Aerdan | seems closing widgets can cause 'em. |
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| 02:55.12 | DawnLight | 'ktorrent: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher' i suspect i am missing a kde component. any idea? |
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| 02:57.39 | nuonguy | I use kmail to read my yahoo email |
| 02:57.57 | nuonguy | the last couple of times, kmail seemed to download the email just fine but left it on the server as well |
| 02:58.14 | nuonguy | I don't get that - I've turned off the 'leave mail on server' button for this account |
| 02:58.23 | DawnLight | kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found |
| 02:58.27 | nuonguy | is that a yahoo problem or a kmail problem |
| 02:58.38 | nuonguy | ? |
| 02:58.49 | DawnLight | nuonguy: look at your yahoo settings |
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| 02:59.18 | nuonguy | DawnLight? - is this a recent change on yahoo? |
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| 03:02.59 | DawnLight | nuonguy: i don't yahoo! :) |
| 03:03.47 | DawnLight | but i know webmails have these options to keep the mail when it is fetched with pop3 |
| 03:04.05 | DawnLight | ah my problem solved |
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| 03:30.43 | CPrgmSwR2 | Hi |
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| 03:31.39 | PsciCodeliXHAt | hey guys i need some help, when i start kde, the numeric keyboard dont work, and the moniror dont work with 75htz,, on configurations of kde have many options that i didn set on xorg.conf, some one know why, i have instaled nvidia driver and instalde compiz-fusion |
| 03:32.26 | PsciCodeliXHAt | some one can help here |
| 03:32.32 | CPrgmSwR2 | PsciCodeliXHAt: what distro |
| 03:32.57 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: GENTOO |
| 03:33.30 | CPrgmSwR2 | Does the numeric keyboard work outside of kde? |
| 03:34.12 | CPrgmSwR2 | such as in a console |
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| 03:35.49 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: in konsole dont, it is inside kde, but outside yes, even on kdm |
| 03:37.45 | CPrgmSwR2 | PsciCodeliXHat kde has a keyboard layout in kcontrol that you can set, you need to make sure thats set to the correct keyboard layout such as US |
| 03:37.52 | CPrgmSwR2 | Its under regions/.... |
| 03:39.32 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: but my keyboard inst american one |
| 03:39.53 | CPrgmSwR2 | PsciCodeliXHat: ah ha, I think kde defaults to an american one |
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| 03:40.34 | CPrgmSwR2 | did you emerge kxkb |
| 03:40.43 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: thanks...my keyboard is veryclose to brasiliam one |
| 03:40.47 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: no |
| 03:40.54 | CPrgmSwR2 | you will want to emerge that |
| 03:41.02 | CPrgmSwR2 | that allows you to set your keyboard layout mode |
| 03:41.06 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: oh thanks.. |
| 03:41.43 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: do u know anything about the second problem that i said |
| 03:41.47 | CPrgmSwR2 | kxkb doesn't install any program for say but it installs a configuration component to kcontrol under regions and settings |
| 03:42.30 | CPrgmSwR2 | I would try and set the 75hz in your xorg.conf file rather than through kde |
| 03:42.51 | CPrgmSwR2 | or to be more specific I don't have much experience with the refresh stuff and kde |
| 03:42.54 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: i already did that |
| 03:43.16 | Aerdan | kdebase-meta should install all the basic components, which includes configuring your monitor... |
| 03:43.46 | Aerdan | but yeah, you need to configure xorg.conf correctly. |
| 03:44.02 | Aerdan | use google if you don't know your monitor's hsync and vsync, too. |
| 03:44.14 | PsciCodeliXHAt | Aerdan: Aerdan i did that...but anything that i put there kde dont seems do see that... |
| 03:44.37 | PsciCodeliXHAt | Aerdan: i use the monitor manual. |
| 03:44.45 | CPrgmSwR2 | PsciCodeliXHAt did you test it with xinit |
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| 03:45.07 | PsciCodeliXHAt | cp dont |
| 03:45.11 | CPrgmSwR2 | because your refresh rate shouldn't be changing when you go into kde |
| 03:46.06 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: something with compiz-fusion ? i did instaled it |
| 03:46.07 | CPrgmSwR2 | btw #gentoo would be-able to offer more help with the refresh rate stuff |
| 03:47.15 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: man my xorg.conf is correct but kde dont working with that...dont appears screen1 to configure on kde...just apears |
| 03:47.55 | CPrgmSwR2 | I am in the process of building my gentoo system right now and currently don't have graphical interface setup |
| 03:48.03 | Aerdan | you clearly are doing something wrong, then. go request help in #gentoo |
| 03:48.10 | CPrgmSwR2 | I really need to look at your xorg.conf file |
| 03:48.14 | CPrgmSwR2 | because its not setup correctly |
| 03:48.21 | Aerdan | as I don't think this is a KDE-specific issue. |
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| 03:48.39 | CPrgmSwR2 | Aerdan thats true |
| 03:49.05 | CPrgmSwR2 | PsciCodeliXHAt there are far far far more people to help in #gentoo |
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| 03:50.55 | PsciCodeliXHAt | CPrgmSwR2: CPrgmSwR2 thanks anyway |
| 03:51.00 | CPrgmSwR2 | your welcome |
| 03:51.03 | daskreech | hi CPrgmSwR2 |
| 03:51.06 | CPrgmSwR2 | hey |
| 03:51.20 | CPrgmSwR2 | I am going to attempt to setup a kde4 only box |
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| 03:53.39 | CPrgmSwR2 | daskreech do you think kde4 will attract more none-linux users to linux? |
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| 03:57.28 | jarodriguez | Simple question: Kde Theme manager will not import theme downloaded from kde-look. Any ideas? |
| 03:58.45 | daskreech | Aerdan: alt+Shift+tab works ? |
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| 04:01.15 | PsciCodeliXHAt | kde 4 will be very very nice |
| 04:01.27 | PsciCodeliXHAt | with lots of efects i hope |
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| 04:11.45 | ehc | is there a way I can invoke the same as alt + F5 through a shell? (I want to bind it to a button on my mouse |
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| 04:18.47 | PsciCodeliXHAt | someone know if kde 4.0 have nice effects? |
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| 04:20.28 | PsciCodeliXHAt | someone know if kde 4.0 have nice effects? like compiz or something like that |
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| 04:22.43 | daskreech | PsciCodeliXHAt: try it. It's pretty good |
| 04:22.49 | i_want_kde_4 | hello im trying to install kde 4 rc 1 im folowing the offcial guide , im in the qt part so when i type cd # Note: qt-copy lives in $HOME/qt-copy. See $QTDIR in .bashrc |
| 04:22.50 | i_want_kde_4 | svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/qt-copy |
| 04:22.50 | i_want_kde_4 | cd qt-copy |
| 04:22.50 | i_want_kde_4 | ./apply_patches |
| 04:22.50 | i_want_kde_4 | ./configure -qt-gif -no-exceptions -debug -fast \ |
| 04:22.51 | i_want_kde_4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.53 | i_want_kde_4 | make -j2 it gives me the following error : cd # Note: qt-copy lives in $HOME/qt-copy. See $QTDIR in .bashrc |
| 04:22.55 | i_want_kde_4 | svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/qt-copy |
| 04:22.55 | PsciCodeliXHAt | i_want_kde_4: why do want that...do u know if that will come full of effects just like compiz fusion |
| 04:22.57 | i_want_kde_4 | cd qt-copy |
| 04:22.59 | i_want_kde_4 | ./apply_patches |
| 04:23.01 | i_want_kde_4 | ./configure -qt-gif -no-exceptions -debug -fast \ |
| 04:23.03 | i_want_kde_4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.05 | i_want_kde_4 | make -j2 . im using kubuntu feisty and kde 3.5.7 help plz? thanks :) |
| 04:23.05 | daskreech | PsciCodeliXHAt: Kwin has compositing if that's watyou mean |
| 04:23.35 | daskreech | i_want_kde_4: #kubuntu has rc1 packages |
| 04:24.04 | PsciCodeliXHAt | daskreech: i dont understand what u mean with compositing |
| 04:24.06 | i_want_kde_4 | i know but they are for gutsy and im funning feisty |
| 04:24.25 | daskreech | PsciCodeliXHAt: pretty stuff like compiz :) |
| 04:24.46 | daskreech | i_want_kde_4: Ah did you read the techbase page? |
| 04:24.49 | i_want_kde_4 | PsciCodeliXHAt: kde 4 means more than just pretty effects , you should check their web, it will rock for sure! :) |
| 04:25.01 | i_want_kde_4 | daskreech: thats what i call the official guide |
| 04:25.17 | daskreech | i_want_kde_4: Just checking. What's the problem? |
| 04:25.22 | daskreech | and please don't paste again |
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| 04:25.30 | i_want_kde_4 | lol |
| 04:25.32 | i_want_kde_4 | sorry for that |
| 04:25.40 | i_want_kde_4 | the problem is the lastt line |
| 04:25.50 | i_want_kde_4 | when i downloaded qt and typed the commands |
| 04:26.06 | daskreech | it asked for cmake ? |
| 04:26.11 | i_want_kde_4 | it says no objdir found. Tried /home/nico/qt-copy |
| 04:26.22 | i_want_kde_4 | sh1t i forgot to paste the error :( |
| 04:26.47 | i_want_kde_4 | nope i modified ~/.bashrc |
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| 04:31.43 | i_want_kde_4 | daskreech: omg is this one of this rare bugs that end up in something like MYDoom or Blaster worms? |
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| 04:34.58 | daskreech | yes :) |
| 04:35.50 | i_want_kde_4 | lol |
| 04:35.55 | i_want_kde_4 | thats hot |
| 04:37.12 | i_want_kde_4 | ok daskreech u are the third person who get sick trying to help me XD i promisse tomorrow ill start the huge upgrade to gutsy :) |
| 04:37.32 | i_want_kde_4 | adn then im gonna install kde4 and then ill dominate the world muahaha :)))) |
| 04:38.53 | Aerdan | ...Your English makes my brain cells weep. |
| 04:39.13 | Aerdan | just start the upgrade to gutsy now. :\ |
| 04:41.49 | i_want_kde_4 | Aerdan: did u end trolling? kthxbye |
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| 04:44.00 | daskreech | i_want_kde_4: I still have no error |
| 04:45.38 | i_want_kde_4 | hmm good 4 u |
| 04:45.58 | i_want_kde_4 | u are very lucky, i had tons of error during the proccess |
| 04:46.12 | daskreech | Right. I don't know any of them |
| 04:46.37 | i_want_kde_4 | lol i can see the irony of that :) |
| 04:47.48 | kakalto | Am I the only one that thinks it's a little funny, releasing a qemu image for daily kde upgrades? |
| 04:47.59 | kakalto | uhm. I mean, for the purpose of having more testers |
| 04:50.41 | daskreech | ... I guess so |
| 04:51.33 | kakalto | I just wasn't under the impression that there were a lot of people with qemu installed |
| 04:51.59 | kakalto | perhaps I was wrong, and if people are interested, they install it =] |
| 04:52.04 | daskreech | You thought there were more people pulling daily svns and building KDe4 from trunk ? |
| 04:52.18 | kakalto | ah, touche. |
| 04:52.35 | daskreech | kakalto: I think the effort it takes to install qemu is much less than asking people to do daily builds |
| 04:52.46 | daskreech | Hey I just installed qemu when I heard :) |
| 04:55.07 | kakalto | haha, ditto |
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| 04:57.22 | kakalto | only thing is, it's taken a few hours because I had to wrestle with gcc4 and finally give up, to use gcc3 to compile it -_- |
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| 05:03.22 | Aerdan | kakalto: yeah, qemu doesn't compile with gcc>3.3 |
| 05:03.37 | Aerdan | kakalto: you'd be better off using VirtualBox, really. |
| 05:03.39 | kakalto | Aerdan: correction: gcc>3.4 |
| 05:03.40 | kakalto | :] |
| 05:03.46 | Aerdan | *shrug* |
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| 05:04.24 | Aerdan | anyhow, qemu usage should be discontinued due to its continued dependence on an outdated gcc, IMO. |
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| 05:08.10 | gmartyn | Howto Transform a qemu image to a VirtualBox image: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/howto-transform-a-qemu-image-to-a-virtualbox-image/ |
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| 05:10.02 | kakalto | gmartyn: oo, looks good :D |
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| 05:28.56 | holycow | hey kde guys! |
| 05:29.10 | holycow | i saw a screencap of kde4 rc1 the other day |
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| 05:29.20 | Armand | Holy cow!! It's a holycow! |
| 05:29.30 | holycow | congrats on really getting to the core of really building excitement around kde |
| 05:29.33 | holycow | hi Armand |
| 05:29.36 | holycow | i had a question |
| 05:29.37 | Armand | Hey. :) |
| 05:29.54 | holycow | for the plasma desktop ... i noticed the explanation treats everything as a container |
| 05:30.08 | DaSkreech_ | blessed beef! |
| 05:30.16 | holycow | i was wondering, would it be possible to have a container that runs an animation? |
| 05:30.23 | DaSkreech_ | Yes |
| 05:30.25 | holycow | i have an idea for a desktop wallpaper that is animated in layers |
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| 05:30.29 | DaSkreech_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.35 | holycow | or could be an mpeg ... |
| 05:30.37 | holycow | well just listen |
| 05:30.44 | holycow | the container is animated |
| 05:30.53 | holycow | not necessarily the background in his description |
| 05:30.57 | DaSkreech_ | the container holds something which is animated |
| 05:30.59 | holycow | what i wanted to do is create a 'special wallpaper |
| 05:31.08 | holycow | aha well could i do this: |
| 05:31.18 | holycow | a) say have 3 layers, background, object, foreground |
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| 05:31.26 | DaSkreech_ | holycow: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/09/plasma-backgrounds.html |
| 05:31.44 | holycow | b) tween/fade in bg and fg layers and path animate the object? |
| 05:31.51 | holycow | reading linkage |
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| 05:32.38 | holycow | DaSkreech_: lol, i should of known its a super common question |
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| 05:33.17 | DaSkreech_ | I asked him like 4 times myself |
| 05:33.24 | DaSkreech_ | like a week after he blogged it |
| 05:33.30 | DaSkreech_ | suuuuuuper common |
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| 05:33.54 | holycow | and the fucking kde application names goddamn rock |
| 05:34.03 | holycow | finally we are getting away from the knaming scheme crap |
| 05:34.31 | holycow | plasma, corona, plasma containment, just fucking inspiring to be amongst this creativity |
| 05:34.44 | holycow | DaSkreech_: haha, you too? |
| 05:34.46 | holycow | *nod* |
| 05:34.55 | Armand | Erm, doesn't this chan have a language policy? |
| 05:35.06 | DaSkreech_ | Not that I know of |
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| 05:35.20 | holycow | okay bookmarked thats cool |
| 05:35.21 | DaSkreech_ | I just have a filter on it :) |
| 05:36.43 | holycow | DaSkreech_: okay how do we start playing around with some animated stuff? i should email that dude and see where they are with that? |
| 05:37.02 | DaSkreech_ | grab the SVN |
| 05:37.48 | holycow | k |
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| 06:27.49 | goofeedude | I'm sort of in a bind. I downloaded an AVI file and when I opened it in konqueror, the default application to handle the file was noatun. So I used "open with..." and selected xine. Now when I try to click on a directory, it tries to open it in xine |
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| 06:27.59 | xjjk | hello, does anyone else use OpenSSH's connection multiplexing and konqueror's SFTP protocol? and have any problems with it |
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| 06:29.15 | goofeedude | p.s. Slackware 12 and KDE 3.5.7 here |
| 06:32.07 | goofeedude | This is so crazy. Does anybody know how to clear an application association from a filetype in konqueror? Directories themselves are associated with 'konqueror', which means a new konqueror window is open with the contents of a clicked directory /as well as/ the original konqueror window |
| 06:33.19 | aleksanteri | settings → configure konqueror → file associations |
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| 06:35.29 | meoblast001 | hello |
| 06:36.06 | goofeedude | aleksanteri, and what filetype pattern is "directory"? I'm there but I don't see where directories are associated |
| 06:36.11 | meoblast001 | i use kDevelop and i would like to add files to my project so they are moved to a directory when 'make install' is initiated.... how would i do this? |
| 06:36.36 | meoblast001 | im willing to do this manually if necessarry |
| 06:37.22 | aleksanteri | goofreedude: the mime of a directory is inode-directory |
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| 06:38.17 | goofeedude | aleksanteri, thanks a ton, just found it and fixed it :-) |
| 06:38.44 | goofeedude | I had to click the inode expandable list, and there it was. |
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| 06:57.20 | oneforall | just wondering if I upgrade dbus, if I need to recompile any part of kde ? |
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| 07:03.22 | meoblast001 | hello |
| 07:03.31 | meoblast001 | how do i include files with my project |
| 07:03.51 | meoblast001 | so that they are moved with the 'make install' process |
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| 07:34.21 | meoblast001 | in kDevelop, how do i make a file a project file? |
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| 08:08.09 | The_Ball | wow, just 2 hours to compile kde4 on a macbook, the new build system is great (kdelibs kdebase kdegraphics kdenetwork kdegames kdepim kdetoys kdeutils kdeadmin kdesdk kdemultimedia) |
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| 08:16.04 | Nyle | hm |
| 08:16.05 | Nyle | wow |
| 08:16.10 | Nyle | that is a long time |
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| 08:16.35 | Nyle | I have (am I correct in saying this?) 7.0GHz of processing power |
| 08:16.47 | Nyle | so I do compile stuff very quickly |
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| 08:20.59 | kakalto | Nyle: multiple core? |
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| 08:26.55 | Nyle | yes |
| 08:27.10 | Nyle | 3.5ghz core 2 duo E6300 |
| 08:27.27 | Nyle | so does that mean each core runs at 3.5ghz and like the total cpu power is then 7ghz |
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| 08:27.42 | Nyle | cuz im not computer guru, but thats sounds fairly reasonable and logical tome |
| 08:27.52 | Nyle | no? |
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| 08:29.32 | atomik | Nyle: not exactly |
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| 08:29.53 | Nyle | kindly explain |
| 08:29.57 | Nyle | I would love to leanr |
| 08:30.22 | atomik | in fact it depends on each application |
| 08:30.26 | atomik | if it's multithread or not |
| 08:30.49 | Nyle | SW being besides the point, theoretically speaking. |
| 08:31.06 | atomik | but I think 2 core at 3Ghz is better than one core at 6Ghz |
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| 08:32.57 | meoblast001 | does anyone hear use KDevelop because im having a problem |
| 08:33.16 | atomik | ex: 2 apps running, one core one task run on cpu0 then OS switch to apps2 on cpu0. etc, switching == overhead |
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| 08:33.45 | atomik | with 2 core you can run 1 apps on each core without switching them |
| 08:34.18 | meoblast001 | i need to make it so when the 'make install' command is ran, resource files are moved to an appropriate location |
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| 08:34.25 | meoblast001 | does KDevelop support that? |
| 08:34.53 | atomik | Nyle: but this depend also on the OS,scheduler,etc |
| 08:34.55 | thiago_home | KDevelop supports doing anything at install time |
| 08:35.03 | thiago_home | you just have to write the rule |
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| 08:36.04 | Nyle | hm |
| 08:36.34 | Nyle | which os utilizes multicore the best? |
| 08:36.45 | atomik | certainly not windows :p |
| 08:36.48 | Nyle | the bsd kernel? linux kernel? ntoskernel? |
| 08:36.53 | atomik | don't know ;-) |
| 08:37.23 | Nyle | I don't know much about bsd memory management |
| 08:37.30 | Nyle | in fact nothing at all |
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| 08:37.39 | Nyle | i know nothing bout how a bsd kernel operates |
| 08:37.41 | Nyle | wow im so dumb |
| 08:37.47 | linux__alien | i ve installed Fedora 8 and i am facing an unusual problem with KDE |
| 08:38.02 | atomik | Nyle: wikipedia |
| 08:38.02 | atomik | ;-) |
| 08:38.10 | linux__alien | When i click on Logout in the KDE main menu, the Logout window does not show up at all |
| 08:38.17 | linux__alien | how do i rectify this problem |
| 08:38.34 | Nyle | eh hmm |
| 08:38.48 | Nyle | yes wikiwikiwikiwikippppppedia |
| 08:38.51 | Nyle | dun dun dun |
| 08:39.19 | Nyle | need more pottery |
| 08:39.54 | linux__alien | could some one here help me please? |
| 08:40.18 | Nyle | linux__alien: kubuntu? |
| 08:40.19 | thiago_home | linux__alien: try in #fedora |
| 08:40.23 | Nyle | no nm fedora |
| 08:40.26 | thiago_home | linux__alien: maybe it's a known problem |
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| 08:55.42 | linux__alien | thiago_home, i guess its a KDE problem |
| 08:56.00 | linux__alien | thiago_home, the Log out window just does not show up |
| 08:56.03 | linux__alien | on screen |
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| 09:00.21 | thiago_home | linux__alien: it does here |
| 09:01.43 | linux__alien | thiago_home, but for people in fedora it works too |
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| 09:20.44 | Mitja | How can I make kpdf print to pdf from Opera, and not in PostScript as it does by default? |
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| 09:25.07 | thiago_home | huh? |
| 09:25.22 | thiago_home | there are two programs in your question, which doesn't make sense. |
| 09:25.27 | thiago_home | can you rephrase? |
| 09:25.43 | Mitja | I use kpdf to print html content in Opera. |
| 09:26.08 | Mitja | But it saves to PostScript format. I would like it to save it to pdf. |
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| 09:32.23 | thiago_home | Mitja: if you're using kpdf, doesn't it mean it's already PDF? |
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| 09:37.02 | Mitja | thiago_home: should be yeah, but it's PostScript |
| 09:38.49 | thiago_home | ok... why did you create the PostScript in the first place? |
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| 10:29.03 | FiNeX | hi! |
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| 10:41.59 | shevy | anyone knows whether kde 3.5.8 was the last one to be relased on the 3.x branch? |
| 10:43.00 | kakalto | "last one" as in, most recent, yes |
| 10:43.04 | Arelis | Hey guys. How do you have your panels set? |
| 10:43.04 | oneforall | it was just released not to long ago |
| 10:43.06 | kakalto | IIRC, 3.5.9 is in the works |
| 10:43.18 | Arelis | can you show a screenshot of your panel layouts? |
| 10:43.32 | shevy | ah i see kakalto |
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| 10:43.54 | oneforall | 4 4 on the floor :D |
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| 10:44.29 | oneforall | one of these days I'll get around to compiling kde4 |
| 10:45.14 | shevy | hehe i too! |
| 10:45.15 | kakalto | Arelis: http://ojsoft.swifthost.net/images/fullscreen.jpg |
| 10:45.30 | shevy | i think i am gonna wait for next beta and skip this one... :P |
| 10:45.43 | kakalto | I'm just downloading the qemu image now, going to convert it for virtualbox and run it virtually so I don't stuff my normal system :-) |
| 10:46.16 | oneforall | weird that pretty m$ start up sound gets cut of near the end in 3.5.8 :D |
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| 10:47.41 | Arelis | kakalto: huh? i'm confused.. what's going on there? |
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| 10:48.28 | kakalto | Arelis: dualscreen. And MacOS-like menu bar at the top with program icons on the right screen, followed by the taskbar, tasktray, cpu usage, mem usage, network usage, cpu temperature and clock |
| 10:49.10 | Arelis | ah. |
| 10:49.43 | Arelis | kakalto: do you find the black easy to use? |
| 10:49.52 | Bille | kakalto: you listen to demon hunter, but you're too soft to build kde4 from source. shame on you ;) |
| 10:49.52 | kakalto | yeah, as I'm used to it. |
| 10:50.00 | kakalto | Bille: I'm getting there |
| 10:50.11 | Bille | the risk of stuffing is very low. |
| 10:50.27 | kakalto | Bille: last time I built kde4 (beta2?) I botched my k menu, took a couple of weeks to fix itself |
| 10:50.35 | kakalto | very strange bug. |
| 10:50.45 | Bille | kakalto: on kde 3? |
| 10:51.02 | deitarion | Is there a way to temporarily show auto-hide kicker panels using DCOP so I can automate the process of taking screenshots? |
| 10:51.18 | deitarion | As it is, I have to take several screenshots and then splice them together. |
| 10:51.26 | kakalto | yeah. I used a seperate user and everything, but I guess I ran dolphin or something under my account, and ended up with a bunch of duplicate menu entries for things like "log out", which I couldn't simply remove |
| 10:52.43 | kakalto | Arelis: especially in the dark of the night, I find the dark is much easier on the eyes. |
| 10:52.53 | kakalto | but then again, maybe I just have my brightness up too high :-) |
| 10:53.02 | Bille | kakalto: that would only happen if you had $XDG_DATA_DIRS containing both the system defaults and the kde4 path when you ran your kde3 session |
| 10:53.09 | kakalto | I'm quite proud of my kde setup right now. Especially the fonts. |
| 10:53.25 | kakalto | Bille: would've helped to know back then, haha. Oh well. |
| 10:53.26 | Bille | i also like dark UI at night. a UI that changed colour scheme on the hour would be neat. |
| 10:54.23 | kakalto | it would be! wishlist for kde4? |
| 10:54.29 | shevy | i like everything that goes well on my (bad) eyes :-) |
| 10:54.30 | kakalto | "change colour scheme by hour" |
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| 10:58.04 | kakalto | I hear that fedora8 changes wallpaper per time of day |
| 10:59.23 | Bille | yeah, that's just half-arsed |
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| 11:00.56 | shevy | laters everyone |
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| 11:04.22 | kakalto | Bille: so... kde4 no longer botches your config, right? but how would it handle my settings? |
| 11:04.30 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: ping |
| 11:04.34 | kakalto | does it create a new directory for kde4 settings, or attempt to use kde3 ones? |
| 11:04.39 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: pong |
| 11:05.07 | Bille | kakalto: it's up to you, but i have KDEHOME=~/.kde4 in my profile that sets up for kde4 use. |
| 11:05.39 | Bille | kakalto: of course using kde3 settings would destroy them for kde3 so you don't want to choose that option yet. |
| 11:05.48 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: hi, morning, got your kdedaily iso, will use it today for some work, wanted to say: dont worry about a nice gui, text is also nice (if someone cannot use text interface, their contribution to kde might me limited anyway..) |
| 11:05.56 | kakalto | and when you say "in your profile", where/how is that configured? |
| 11:06.15 | kakalto | is it different by default (is that up to the distro?)? |
| 11:06.23 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Great - glad you finally managed to download it, and thanks for the moral support :) |
| 11:07.04 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: updating fails, url not found: |
| 11:07.38 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: ah, are you the one in charge of kdedaily? I saw the guide to convert the qemu image to virtualbox, but was wondering if anyone was going to create a torrent for the virtualbox image, just to skip a skep |
| 11:07.47 | Bille | kakalto: distro kde4 rpms set KDEHOME to .kde4 for you, yes |
| 11:08.12 | Bille | kakalto: the profile is basically the one linked to from the compiling KDE4 page on techbase |
| 11:08.26 | Bille | it's a bash script to set up teh environment |
| 11:08.30 | SSJ_GZ | SSJ_GZ: I am indeed :) I don't plan to do it myself - bandwidth issues make running torrents hard for me - but I would be very pleased if someone did this for me :) |
| 11:08.40 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Which URL? |
| 11:08.53 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Oops - wrong person ^^ |
| 11:09.05 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: talking to ourselves, are we? :P |
| 11:09.19 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: They say it's the first sign of madness :) |
| 11:09.26 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: understaning the ruby output is fun: $yourserver/kde4daily//current-script-revisions i think |
| 11:09.41 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Hmmm |
| 11:09.46 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: and the second is answering? Afraid I'm guilty of both, here |
| 11:09.52 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: scriptsupdate.rb.30 |
| 11:10.06 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: have about a mb left on the torrent, will be checking it out soon |
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| 11:10.29 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: This URL? http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/current-script-revisions |
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| 11:11.53 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: y |
| 11:11.53 | mivo | Guys, in Kopete, where do I turn off the systray notifications (boxes) whenever someone comes online, goes idle, etc.? I have tried everything that seemed related and that I could find. |
| 11:12.08 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Can you retry? |
| 11:12.35 | Bille | mivo: Settings->Configure Notifications... |
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| 11:13.16 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: doesnt work: "unexpected return (LocalJumpError)" |
| 11:13.53 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Can you retry couple more times? The file is definitely there, and no one has reported this issue yet. |
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| 11:16.32 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: i cannot ping out from the console, so "internet" stuff does not work. |
| 11:16.46 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Ah. |
| 11:16.56 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Using Qemu? |
| 11:17.46 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: yes, debian stable, i stated qemu with 'qemu $image -m 200' |
| 11:17.53 | chris__ | s/stated/started |
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| 11:18.52 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Hmmm. I'm really not sure how to deal with that - Qemu should form a network bridge automatically :/ |
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| 11:21.20 | kakalto | hmm. =( |
| 11:21.29 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: ok, dont worry, i'l figure it out |
| 11:21.32 | kakalto | VBoxManage didn't convert the qemu image successfully =/ |
| 11:21.50 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Ok, good luck - sorry I can't be of more help :/ |
| 11:22.30 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Obvious questions :) Did you check the hash of the downloaded file, and extract it? Does it work in Qemu? |
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| 11:23.04 | SSJ_GZ | bbiaw |
| 11:25.26 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: could you put up (http or torrent) an archive with only your ruby code? |
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| 11:26.01 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: where's the hash? |
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| 11:28.34 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: nevermind, found the problem. Silly me, trying to convert a bz2 into a bin, then attempting to convert said bin into a vdi |
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| 11:34.27 | mivo | Ha, I feel so dumb for not seeint Configure Notifications - I kept going through the general config. Thanks! |
| 11:34.36 | mivo | seeing* |
| 11:35.15 | laughzilla | hello .. i am on kde 3.5 on freebsd 6.2 ... i am trying to mount a canon powershot a510 to download the pics to my hard drive. i can't find anything on google that shows how to do it. :( :/ :) |
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| 11:35.48 | laughzilla | i thought there was some kde app that can read a usb cam |
| 11:37.47 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Oh, cool :) |
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| 11:39.14 | kakalto | assumptions again. And you know what happens when I assume something. I make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" :P |
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| 11:40.02 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Hehe :) |
| 11:40.33 | oneforall | I herd a teacher say that a long long long time ago |
| 11:43.00 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: could you possibly put up (http or torrent) an archive with only your ruby code? |
| 11:43.23 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: You can snag it with wget if you like: |
| 11:43.35 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/scripts/ |
| 11:43.43 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: It's pretty horrendous, though ;) |
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| 11:45.13 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: i feel so stupid for not having the idea with wget by mself ;-) |
| 11:45.21 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Hehe :) |
| 11:45.44 | FiNeX | I've done a PDF with a list of missing icons: http://www.finex.org/missing_icons.pdf |
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| 11:55.49 | kakalto | okay, lol, I crashed plasma already x] |
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| 11:57.15 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Did you manage to get a backtrace? |
| 11:57.30 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Warning - takes several minutes and lots of CPU/ RAM to generate :/ |
| 11:57.36 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: nah, it was my first log in, I was just toying |
| 11:57.49 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Quite an achievement - well done ;) |
| 11:58.05 | kakalto | I've set the image up for 768mb, would it be better if I put it to a gig? |
| 11:58.47 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: I usually only give 512MB for the image itself - that should be fine :) |
| 11:58.54 | kakalto | cool. :-) |
| 12:00.07 | kakalto | hmm, so... drkonqi is just meant to appear and I'll have the option to to a bt? |
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| 12:00.33 | kakalto | 'cause the kde4 like, refreshed (really quickly, too)... and acted as if nothing happened |
| 12:01.12 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: It should do, but sometimes doesn't - I don't know what the rules are :/ |
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| 12:01.21 | kakalto | ah, okay |
| 12:01.46 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Interestingly, I once crashed DrKonqui itself, but it didn't resurrect itself to inform me of the fact :) |
| 12:01.56 | kakalto | haha |
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| 12:08.10 | laughzilla | :) is there a kde 3.5 compatible app that will detect, install and let me download pics from a canon powershot a510 to my hard drive? |
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| 12:15.38 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: darn you and your uk keymap :P |
| 12:16.06 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Haha |
| 12:16.18 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: just a heads up, here's an iso.image, which one might load with any vm: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
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| 12:16.51 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Yep, a few people have pointed out some alternatives that I wasn't aware of :/ |
| 12:17.37 | apokryphos | yeah, distribution packages/images stopped being announced in dot articles :/ |
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| 12:18.05 | Bille | yay, another uk kde'er |
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| 12:18.33 | SSJ_GZ | Bille: Not quite a KDE'er yet, but I aim to be once I have all these Real Life(TM) issues out the way :) |
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| 12:18.49 | chris__ | Bille: are you kde.org~binner? |
| 12:19.05 | Bille | chris__: not quite. he's Beineri |
| 12:19.06 | SSJ_GZ | Bille: Hehe - yeah, I've heard similar tales from several people. Although they didn't leave the country :) |
| 12:19.13 | invite_ | can someone tell me what's the i18n irc channel ? |
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| 12:19.39 | pcbshelpdf | hi all |
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| 12:20.00 | Bille | invite_: watch out for PhilRod, he's the i18n-doc coordinator afaik |
| 12:21.05 | invite_ | PhilRod are you here !!! |
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| 12:21.15 | pcbshelpdf | when you plug in a device, theres a small tooltip tat comes up, it says "mass0 device attached". i have made a small button on the taskbar, that makes a command mount_msdosfs /dev/da3s1 /home/admin/USBstick and when i clikc it...... id like to have a similar tooltip come up??? |
| 12:21.42 | pcbshelpdf | how do i make a tooltip like that one. |
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| 12:22.05 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: what about broadening your user audience by moving from kde4daily to binners kdeimage with your code and packages? |
| 12:22.23 | invite_ | maybe someone either can help me |
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| 12:22.38 | invite_ | I want to test some .mo files i compiled for KDE4 |
| 12:23.02 | invite_ | but don't want to install the whole internationalization |
| 12:23.04 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Hmmm ... I'm not sure what the advantages would be, there. Can you explain? |
| 12:23.18 | apokryphos | chris__: it actually only takes one extra flag to generate a QEMU/vmware or live USB instead of Binner's ISO with KIWI |
| 12:23.30 | apokryphos | KIWI is really pretty amazing actually :) |
| 12:23.40 | invite_ | package, so how to change the language of, kopete for example, from konsole |
| 12:24.21 | kakalto | well, I think I'll leave kde4daily to update (hopefully without a hitch) and get some sleep :-) |
| 12:24.35 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Ok - thanks for testing :) |
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| 12:24.59 | kakalto | SSJ_GZ: with any luck, I'll be around in 8 hours or so to let you know what happened. :D |
| 12:25.06 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto: Cool :) |
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| 12:29.58 | kaminix | How do I split an album inte a one-flac-per-song format from a one-flac-and-one-cue-per-album format again? |
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| 12:30.45 | chris___ | apokryphos: nice, tough it seems to be bundled to opensuse |
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| 12:31.14 | apokryphos | chris___: theoretically no (it uses smart for image generation), but at the moment yes |
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| 12:44.14 | manuel_ | hi+ |
| 12:44.39 | manuel_ | how can i create a system tray programm? |
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| 12:46.19 | chris___ | apokryphos: would usr/share/kiwi/image/kwliveCD-suse-10.3/config.xml would be the file to link to the daily opensuse kde4 rpm packages? |
| 12:46.23 | manuel_ | like the speker icon |
| 12:47.34 | manuel_ | speaker |
| 12:47.39 | apokryphos | chris___: that folder contains the template for the general live cd, youd' want to copy it and replace it with the kde four live config (which is on the website) |
| 12:48.05 | SSJ_GZ | manuel_: Can you already write KDE/Qt programs? |
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| 12:48.18 | apokryphos | http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.6.iso_config.xml |
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| 12:48.34 | apokryphos | another thing I really like with kiwi -- it's just a simple little xml file :) |
| 12:48.50 | manuel_ | SSJ_GZ: no |
| 12:49.01 | SSJ_GZ | manuel_: Do you know C++? |
| 12:49.07 | manuel_ | no only java |
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| 12:49.46 | chris___ | apokryphos: i see, very easy, thanks a lot for the hint, often the needed already are there, you just need to find them.. |
| 12:50.13 | apokryphos | and it's only two commands to enter once you have the config |
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| 12:50.47 | sim0nx | hi |
| 12:51.15 | chris___ | apokryphos: and opensuse really provides "daily" (~ 24-48h mon-fri) kde4 packages? |
| 12:51.17 | benJIman | manuel_: looked at jambi? There's a system tray example. |
| 12:51.21 | benJIman | chris___: Pretty much |
| 12:51.43 | manuel_ | where is jambi? |
| 12:51.44 | benJIman | manuel_: java http://doc.trolltech.com/qtjambi-4.3.2_01/com/trolltech/qt/qtjambi-systemtrayexample.html |
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| 12:52.03 | benJIman | manuel_: See if your distro has packages, otherwise download from trolltech |
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| 12:54.50 | apokryphos | chris___: it's had regularly updated packages for ages... |
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| 13:04.02 | cool | waiting for kde4... |
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| 13:06.24 | cool | why every application in kde with "About KDE" in the Help menu? every!@@ |
| 13:06.44 | cool | is that default? |
| 13:09.32 | ponto | cool: yes |
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| 13:10.59 | cool | I don't like that! |
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| 13:12.04 | kruq | you are weird |
| 13:12.14 | kruq | where to put it then? |
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| 13:14.01 | cool | just in the ctl center |
| 13:14.46 | cool | i think that's the right thing |
| 13:15.11 | kirun | maybe in KInfoCenter |
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| 13:15.33 | chris___ | SSJ_GZ: i am thinking about providing daily torrents of iso with opensuse kde4 daily packages (unless opensuse already does, please tell me anyone if they do..). it would mean that users have to download a complete iso every time, but for the meantime we could provide an iso |
| 13:15.51 | kirun | You can't "control" your KDE version... unless you are using a package manager |
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| 13:17.35 | SSJ_GZ | chris___: Go for it :) I don't really know what OpenSUSE do - the existence of their build service was news to me :( |
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| 13:17.55 | SSJ_GZ | apokryphos: Any comments on chris___ 's idea ? ^^ |
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| 13:19.11 | chris___ | SSJ_GZ: just to get it right, i dont work against you (after all both of us head into the same direction), i just try to bridge the gap for all the fellows, who cant/want get your qemu image connected to the net :-) |
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| 13:19.32 | SSJ_GZ | chris___: Sure, no problem at all :) |
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| 13:20.18 | chris___ | SSJ_GZ: hope i found the right words, i am not english native, so theres surely lots of room for improvement |
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| 13:20.48 | SSJ_GZ | chris___: Your English is perfect :) |
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| 13:26.37 | pcbshelpdf | hi |
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| 13:31.32 | logixoul | Hi. Is it possible to let the mouse wander offscreen, removing the limit at the screen borders? |
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| 13:34.07 | sil3nt|warri0r | hello filks |
| 13:34.12 | sil3nt|warri0r | ^folks |
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| 13:34.24 | sil3nt|warri0r | is there any good .swf player for kde |
| 13:34.41 | sil3nt|warri0r | right now i have to run .swf files through browser |
| 13:34.45 | sil3nt|warri0r | plz suggest |
| 13:34.48 | logixoul | Konqueror with the Adobe Flash plugin |
| 13:36.33 | sil3nt|warri0r | i mean any specific indivisual player for playing .swf files |
| 13:36.38 | sil3nt|warri0r | not any browser |
| 13:36.50 | sil3nt|warri0r | ^not through |
| 13:36.51 | logixoul | would be kind of pointless |
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| 13:37.25 | MinceR | actually there would be a point to it |
| 13:37.31 | MinceR | at least 2 |
| 13:37.54 | MinceR | 1: .swf url-s could be loaded in konqueror (right now it just asks what to do with them) |
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| 13:38.18 | MinceR | 2: .swf-s would be easily played in a resizable window with less clutter |
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| 13:38.45 | MinceR | but it is up to adobe to do this nicely (otherwise you'd have to embed the browser plugin) |
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| 13:39.11 | sil3nt|warri0r | therewas gtk player called tubesock |
| 13:39.25 | sil3nt|warri0r | tubesock.sf.net |
| 13:39.33 | sil3nt|warri0r | but its build is too old |
| 13:39.43 | sil3nt|warri0r | not able to compile |
| 13:39.46 | sil3nt|warri0r | :( |
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| 13:43.16 | ErkiDerLoony | Hi! |
| 13:43.39 | ErkiDerLoony | Why does Okular not save settings like window position and which toolbars are shown and not shown? |
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| 13:52.13 | Arelis | How do i make my taskbar show only icons and not the titles? |
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| 13:53.54 | logixoul | Arelis: either get an alternative taskbar applet that does that (might be floating on kde-apps.org somewhere), or an alternative dock, such as KSmoothDock, KXDocker, Kooldock, Kiba-dock and AWN |
| 13:54.30 | Sho_ | (The normal taskbar applet can do it, too, however) |
| 13:54.51 | logixoul | hm how? |
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| 13:56.07 | Sho_ | logixoul: via the MaximumButtonWidth setting |
| 13:56.14 | Sho_ | logixoul: You can basically just clip away the text. |
| 13:56.43 | logixoul | ah right |
| 13:57.16 | Arelis | Sho_: where is that setting located? |
| 13:57.55 | Sho_ | Arelis: In the [General] group of ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc |
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| 14:00.30 | Arelis | Sho_: ah, thank you. it works great |
| 14:00.50 | Arelis | Sho_: although the icons are REALLY small |
| 14:01.04 | Sho_ | Arelis: The icon size is hard-coded I'm afraid |
| 14:01.27 | logixoul | btw to all: change your kde-look and kde-apps (etc) passwords people. There was a security hole (fixed now) that allowed anyone to get all passwords, someone might have. |
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| 14:08.27 | blendtux | do you have an url logixoul where that is discribed |
| 14:09.48 | logixoul | nope, I asked the site admin to do an announcement but for some reason he didn't |
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| 14:23.12 | sandsmark | blargh... sourceforge is almost useless in konqueror |
| 14:24.14 | sandsmark | the direct download link is unreachable, and the automatic download won't start |
| 14:24.49 | Bille | sandsmark: please report a bug |
| 14:25.04 | sandsmark | Bille: to whom? |
| 14:25.10 | Bille | bugs.kde.org |
| 14:25.14 | sandsmark | ok |
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| 14:30.53 | linux__alien | I believe there is a bug in KDE where the logout window does not show up and there is a fix also for this. It happens in Fedora 8 |
| 14:31.00 | linux__alien | can someone tell me the solution for that? |
| 14:31.19 | logixoul | never happened to me. are you using kwin? |
| 14:31.38 | linux__alien | logixoul, how do i check that |
| 14:31.50 | logixoul | ok, you are using kwin ;) |
| 14:31.55 | linux__alien | sometimes it works but now it does not work |
| 14:32.07 | logixoul | dunno, ask in #fedora |
| 14:32.19 | linux__alien | people in Fedora say there is an update |
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| 14:37.11 | ChaosR | where can I change the command for mount ntfs systems |
| 14:38.52 | thiago_home | nowhere in KDE |
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| 14:39.01 | thiago_home | as |
| 14:39.05 | thiago_home | ask in #yourdistro |
| 14:39.15 | ChaosR | then how does konqueror mount systems when I click them? |
| 14:39.24 | thiago_home | it asks HAL to do it |
| 14:39.30 | thiago_home | then HAL does it |
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| 15:09.48 | kindus | hello there |
| 15:09.53 | PhilRod | hi kindus |
| 15:09.55 | kindus | stupid question.. ... |
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| 15:10.09 | kindus | but how do i change the background in KDE4 RC1 ? |
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| 15:10.46 | annma | kindus: right click |
| 15:11.27 | kindus | anma: unfortunately right clicking on the desktop only shows me : "Add Widgets, Run Command, Lock Screen, and Log out" |
| 15:11.49 | kindus | There does not seem to be an option in the "System Settings" either |
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| 15:20.18 | jhutchins | kindus: This is why kde4 is not released yet. |
| 15:20.33 | Bille | kindus: wait for the next rc. it's in svn for a few days now. |
| 15:20.34 | jhutchins | kindus: You are beta testing. Document and report the problem. |
| 15:21.05 | kindus | jhutchins: yeah i should look up how and where to do that |
| 15:21.54 | kindus | Bille: sure ... but all the screenshots seem to feature a background wallpaper ... i guess i will just document this bug |
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| 15:22.32 | Bille | kindus: it's fixed already :) |
| 15:22.35 | annma | kindus: maybe your packages were done too early |
| 15:22.48 | annma | kindus: can't you update? |
| 15:23.03 | PhilRod | kindus: kde-devel@kde.org or bugs.kde.org |
| 15:23.12 | annma | PhilRod: it's not a bug |
| 15:23.19 | PhilRod | oops |
| 15:23.31 | annma | it's just that even rc1 is already old |
| 15:23.35 | kindus | Bille, annma: oh ... i just downloaded this from openSuSE's 1-click install |
| 15:24.00 | Bille | kindus: yeah, but as annma said - life moves pretty fast in kde at the moment. |
| 15:24.12 | annma | kindus: right clicking shows a dialog that allows to change the wall paper or set a slideshow |
| 15:24.21 | Bille | kindus: there will be some new suse rpms start of next week with a newer version. |
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| 15:25.03 | annma | this setting is fairly recent, you can try to track it in websvn kindus |
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| 15:25.19 | kindus | Bille: hahaha ... oh ok ... so i have to wait for the new rpms for SuSE ? or is there another way ? |
| 15:26.08 | annma | if you installed rpms you ahve to wait for new ones |
| 15:26.30 | SSJ_GZ | kindus: If you don't mind testing in VM, then there's my project: |
| 15:26.41 | SSJ_GZ | http://dot.kde.org/1195829316/ |
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| 15:28.12 | kindus | annma, SSJ_GZ: thanks |
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| 15:34.06 | ErkiDerLoony | How can I make Okular remember its window position? |
| 15:34.58 | PhilRod | you mean between kde sessions, or just between opening okular different times in the same session? |
| 15:35.32 | ErkiDerLoony | Between opening Okular different times in the same session. |
| 15:35.49 | ErkiDerLoony | I tried to force it into maximization. |
| 15:35.53 | ErkiDerLoony | But that one failed. |
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| 15:36.08 | ErkiDerLoony | It appears on screen maximized for the fraction of a second. |
| 15:36.25 | ErkiDerLoony | But then it zooms back to its original tiny size. |
| 15:37.00 | ErkiDerLoony | Additionally it does not remember which toolbars on the left side of the window I deactivated. |
| 15:37.12 | ErkiDerLoony | But it does remember my customized toolbar. |
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| 15:37.54 | PhilRod | for window position, you should be able to use the advanced window settings from the window menu |
| 15:37.59 | hensema | does anybody know why the systray lives outside the taskbar in kde4? |
| 15:38.12 | hensema | and how it can be placed back in the taskbar ;) |
| 15:38.14 | PhilRod | or even start it with -geometry (not sure if that works) |
| 15:38.16 | Bille | hensema: it's in the taskbar in SVN now. |
| 15:38.22 | ErkiDerLoony | PhilRod: That is what I tried, but what failed. |
| 15:38.24 | hensema | Bille: ok thx |
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| 15:39.21 | PhilRod | ErkiDerLoony: hrm, if that doesn't work, then I'm not sure. You could hang around here for a while - pinotree is the okular maintainer, and he's often around |
| 15:39.50 | ErkiDerLoony | PhilRod: Ok thx. I shall try to ask him then. |
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| 15:41.56 | hensema | second, really major problem I've got in kde4: sometimes I get a black rectangle in the upper left corner of the screen, with exactly the size of the active window |
| 15:42.14 | hensema | it even scales with the active window ;) |
| 15:42.32 | Bille | hensema: using kwin_composite (3d stuff?) |
| 15:42.55 | hensema | Bille: I think so, but I can't find related settings in the control center :s |
| 15:43.21 | Bille | hensema: click the window icon, configure window behaviour |
| 15:43.39 | Bille | then Desktop Effects |
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| 15:44.11 | hensema | hmmmm, I've got the feeling I'm using kde3's kwin |
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| 15:45.30 | kaminix | How do I make Kopete not delete my status message everytime I change status? |
| 15:45.48 | Tm_T | kaminix: sorry, currently can't |
| 15:45.54 | hensema | ah, I think I know what's going on: I installed compiz once, didn't like it, nowbody knew how to disable it and I somehow managed to hardcode kwin as my window manager |
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| 15:48.04 | alexises | re |
| 15:48.09 | alexises | oups |
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| 15:59.50 | hensema | what's the window manager in kde4? still kwin? |
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| 16:00.22 | SSJ_GZ | hensema: Yep |
| 16:00.56 | SSJ_GZ | hensema: Not to be confused with "kwin4", which is a board game :) |
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| 16:01.21 | hensema | heh, forgot to install it, that's probably why kde3's kwin started ;) |
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| 16:03.53 | SSJ_GZ | People are probably getting fed up with me by now :) |
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| 16:16.20 | Arelis | how can i use these icons http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KMENU+Icons?content=69228 with kmenu? right now it's sort of pressed together. |
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| 16:24.12 | Dhamaka | Hello |
| 16:24.12 | Dhamaka | which folder are the color schemes stored? |
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| 16:26.14 | SSJ_GZ | hensema: Currently, systemsettings |
| 16:26.53 | Arelis | how can i use these icons http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KMENU+Icons?content=69228 with kmenu? right now it's sort of pressed together. |
| 16:26.59 | SSJ_GZ | Dhamaka: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ |
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| 16:27.20 | SSJ_GZ | Arelis: What do you mean, "pressed together"? |
| 16:28.05 | Dhamaka | SSJ_GZ: cool, thanks |
| 16:28.14 | SSJ_GZ | Dhamaka: np :) |
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| 16:29.12 | Arelis | SSJ_GZ: very small and resized |
| 16:29.52 | SSJ_GZ | Arelis: Hmm ... dunno, sorry. Best to ask the author, I think |
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| 16:47.31 | kanzure | http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kgraphviewer/ |
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| 16:47.38 | kanzure | So is there a KDE graphviz widget? |
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| 17:04.18 | jiffe3 | anyone know why when I switch between workspaces on my linux desktop, any kde programs will start flashing if they're not active when I switch to its workspace? |
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| 17:07.25 | trin | Hello |
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| 17:07.38 | GodKilla- | hey all |
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| 17:07.47 | trin | I just installed KDE4; is there a way to get the desktop back or did I install it wrong? |
| 17:07.48 | funky | hi people |
| 17:07.54 | GodKilla- | can anyone tell me how to open password encryptet rar files with ark? |
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| 17:08.21 | resu_t | trin: What distribution? It depends to your distro. |
| 17:08.24 | SSJ_GZ | trin: What do you see? |
| 17:08.29 | GodKilla- | or, can anyone tell me how to extract a single file from a rar archive with unrar? |
| 17:08.36 | trin | I'm using OpenSuse10.3 |
| 17:08.41 | funky | is there any way for establish a execution order in ~/.kde/Autostart ? |
| 17:08.47 | trin | And i see the taskbar |
| 17:09.04 | trin | and a black desktop but I put widgets on top |
| 17:09.05 | SSJ_GZ | trin: No wallpaper? |
| 17:09.09 | trin | no wallpaper |
| 17:09.11 | thiago_home | funky: no |
| 17:09.19 | funky | thiago_home: ok |
| 17:09.21 | thiago_home | funky: it might be alphabetical though |
| 17:09.25 | thiago_home | funky: have you tried that? |
| 17:09.26 | SSJ_GZ | trin: See if you can open a terminal, and type "plasma" |
| 17:09.31 | trin | ok |
| 17:09.34 | funky | thiago_home: mmm, no, good tip, gonna try |
| 17:09.43 | apokryphos | funky: you could just put them in order under one shell script and move the rest out |
| 17:10.10 | trin | i typed "plasma" |
| 17:10.15 | apokryphos | trin: sounds like you just have no background.. |
| 17:10.23 | apokryphos | (if you can put widgets on top) |
| 17:10.41 | funky | thiago_home: it worked :) |
| 17:10.43 | trin | ya, I can drag around widgets and stuff; But I want my Hard drive icons and trash icons |
| 17:10.44 | funky | thank you |
| 17:10.57 | apokryphos | trin: oh, that's not implemented in plasma yet |
| 17:11.06 | trin | it isn't??? |
| 17:11.13 | trin | how could it be RC1 then? |
| 17:12.06 | SSJ_GZ | trin: Don't ask ;) |
| 17:12.06 | trin | :D lolz |
| 17:12.06 | trin | oh well |
| 17:12.06 | trin | at least I know now that I didn't screw it up |
| 17:12.11 | trin | btw: KDE4 seems faster than KDE3 |
| 17:12.47 | SSJ_GZ | trin: That's good news :) |
| 17:13.02 | trin | I'm excited about this "Dolphin" |
| 17:13.05 | SSJ_GZ | trin: Especially as there's still plenty of optimisation left to do. |
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| 17:13.42 | trin | Dolphin reminds me of OS X's file browser |
| 17:13.57 | trin | it is quite nice |
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| 17:14.43 | SSJ_GZ | trin: Yeah, I'm a hardcore Konqueror nut, but I think choosing Dolphin as the default File Manager was a Good Move(TM) |
| 17:15.00 | trin | I like the improvements to Konqueror 2 |
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| 17:16.56 | trin | so is KDE going to drop Konqueror and eventually transition all the effort to Dolphin? |
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| 17:18.14 | PhilRod | trin: no, konqueror will still be the web browser and "advanced" file manager |
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| 17:18.43 | trin | :D |
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| 17:18.48 | trin | advanced works |
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| 19:29.43 | jhutchins | Anybody know anything about kcontrol? |
| 19:30.15 | Sho_ | Ask, don't ask to ask :) |
| 19:30.35 | Aerdan | We're all KDE users, we all know at least a little about kcontrol. |
| 19:30.48 | Aerdan | So, wouldn't you say it's a bit dumb to ask if anyone knows anything about it? ;) |
| 19:31.01 | kakalto_ | SSJ_GZ: the download expired... "update aborted - could not download http://whatever - execution expired |
| 19:31.16 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto_: Hmmm ... retry? |
| 19:31.20 | kakalto_ | SSJ_GZ: I'm on 256k internet here, it downloaded 40/70Mb |
| 19:31.21 | kakalto_ | =/ |
| 19:31.28 | funky | any good cpufreq applet for kde? |
| 19:31.32 | kakalto_ | SSJ_GZ: it'll simply repeat the same thing, won't it? |
| 19:31.33 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto_: Doh :( |
| 19:31.55 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto_: Hopefully not - it's hopefully just a temporary outtage. |
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| 19:32.13 | kakalto_ | with any luck. |
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| 19:36.09 | kakalto_ | SSJ_GZ: the script doesn't use wget, I'm guessing? |
| 19:36.24 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto_: No, ruby's HTTP libs. |
| 19:36.29 | kakalto_ | ah, okay. |
| 19:36.41 | SSJ_GZ | If you haven't restarted the download, you might be able to --continue it wih wget, though. |
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| 19:36.58 | kakalto_ | euch, should've thought of that Dx |
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| 19:37.23 | kakalto_ | it seems to be going at about 1/2Mb/minute |
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| 19:38.04 | SSJ_GZ | kakalto_: Yuck |
| 19:38.28 | kakalto_ | I don't expect much more than double that, though |
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| 20:06.54 | PeterFA | What's the name of the ripper program? |
| 20:07.46 | benJIman | PeterFA: You're expecting it to be usable at release? |
| 20:08.01 | PeterFA | benJIman, yeah. |
| 20:08.12 | benJIman | RC1 is still prealpha quality. |
| 20:08.22 | funky | PeterFA: kaudiocreator? |
| 20:08.35 | PeterFA | funky, I'll see. Hold on. |
| 20:08.50 | PeterFA | funky, nope. |
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| 20:08.57 | PeterFA | funky, but you did give me some eix fodder. |
| 20:08.59 | benJIman | PeterFA: You can also use audiocd:/ in konqueror. |
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| 20:09.43 | saurabh | hello guys |
| 20:09.46 | Nyle | benJIman: no way! |
| 20:09.53 | Nyle | thats awesome |
| 20:09.56 | PeterFA | benJIman, I like the way it layed out the .oggs it created. It made m3u's, put the files in a heigharchy by artist/album then title... |
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| 20:10.10 | Nyle | benJIman: are there more shortcuts in konqeuror like that? |
| 20:10.32 | benJIman | Nyle: kinfocenter -> protocols lists them all |
| 20:10.38 | Nyle | thank you |
| 20:10.42 | PeterFA | benJIman, yes, it's name is kaudiocreator |
| 20:10.45 | benJIman | Lots of useful ones, like fonts:/ for installing fonts |
| 20:10.51 | PeterFA | benJIman, it just wasn't installed on my system. |
| 20:11.03 | benJIman | Nyle: audiocd has been there since kde2 |
| 20:11.07 | PeterFA | I used a heavy-duty spring cleaner on my box, and it's far from perfect. |
| 20:11.11 | saurabh | I am saurabh from India, any one there to assist me |
| 20:11.32 | PeterFA | saurabh, would you like Aramaic for your language in KDE? |
| 20:11.42 | PeterFA | saurabh, I'm just guessing what you want. |
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| 20:11.58 | saurabh | wat is Aramaic |
| 20:12.16 | PeterFA | saurabh, how about Hindi? |
| 20:12.29 | PeterFA | Jabu-Jabu (I think that's the name of one of the languages) |
| 20:12.50 | PeterFA | Either that, or it's the name of a fictional character in the Zelda series of video games. |
| 20:13.10 | Nyle | hmm |
| 20:13.21 | Nyle | i know hindy |
| 20:13.25 | Nyle | Hindi |
| 20:13.29 | saurabh | sorry, i don't know Hindi as well |
| 20:13.34 | Nyle | In fact, I know many Hindustani langauges |
| 20:13.40 | Nyle | and some tribal ones too |
| 20:13.40 | saurabh | where r u from Nyle |
| 20:13.45 | Nyle | Pakistan |
| 20:14.06 | PeterFA | Nyle, there's got to be a fresh billion languages. |
| 20:14.16 | Nyle | hm? |
| 20:14.25 | PeterFA | Nyle, in that region. |
| 20:14.30 | Nyle | oh yes, many |
| 20:14.37 | Nyle | some very closely related |
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| 20:14.47 | atlfalcons | are kde and gnome the same speed |
| 20:14.53 | Nyle | in fact, Urdu/Hindi are considered two forms of the hindustani language |
| 20:15.00 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, pretty much, yeah. |
| 20:15.05 | Nyle | one is based on arabic/farsi and the other is based on sanskrit |
| 20:15.14 | atlfalcons | i want to switch to kde but i heard its buggy and all that |
| 20:15.26 | Nyle | atlfalcons: i find that useability provides better speed than how fast a program can run |
| 20:15.27 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, who said so? |
| 20:15.36 | atlfalcons | gnome mailing list |
| 20:15.42 | PeterFA | Nyle, I like how configurable and pretty it is. |
| 20:15.50 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, that's why that is so. |
| 20:16.03 | atlfalcons | i might just wipe this ubuntu install and put kubuntu on it |
| 20:16.07 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, if you were on the KDE mailing list, you'd get crap for Gnome. |
| 20:16.08 | Nyle | gnome is horrible in design and application |
| 20:16.14 | Nyle | it is literal bloatware |
| 20:16.14 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, not necessary. |
| 20:16.22 | Nyle | whereas kde is nice clean and very well organized |
| 20:16.31 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, go and just install the KDE environemnt. |
| 20:16.36 | Nyle | it has still some negative points but who doesn't |
| 20:16.38 | atlfalcons | but i want to remove gnome |
| 20:16.39 | Nyle | nothing is perfect |
| 20:16.39 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, it's available in Synaptic. |
| 20:16.42 | Nyle | but kde comes very close |
| 20:16.56 | Nyle | ~remove gnome |
| 20:16.57 | apt | remove gnome is probably apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome") |
| 20:17.05 | PeterFA | Nyle, how is support for Hindi languages in KDE? |
| 20:17.11 | Nyle | dunno |
| 20:17.18 | atlfalcons | or i could just do apt-get install kubunu-desktop |
| 20:17.19 | Nyle | I only know how to read/write urdu/arabic |
| 20:17.23 | Nyle | arabic is good, urdu is lacking |
| 20:17.27 | Nyle | but i'm working on it |
| 20:17.31 | Nyle | slowly, very slowly |
| 20:17.44 | atlfalcons | im trying kde4 now |
| 20:17.45 | PeterFA | Nyle, then you must just be tanned >:) |
| 20:17.56 | Nyle | I was born tanned nigg |
| 20:17.58 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, oh, that's got its issues, be certian. |
| 20:18.02 | PeterFA | Nyle, haha. |
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| 20:18.04 | atlfalcons | i know |
| 20:18.15 | Nyle | i can't get a sunburn :) hell I can't even get any tander than I am |
| 20:18.18 | Nyle | er.. more tan |
| 20:18.19 | Nyle | tanner |
| 20:18.21 | Nyle | whatever man |
| 20:18.42 | atlfalcons | is compiz compatible with kde? |
| 20:18.47 | Nyle | yes it is |
| 20:18.50 | apokryphos | of course |
| 20:18.55 | Nyle | I use compiz confusion with kde |
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| 20:19.02 | Nyle | i mean |
| 20:19.04 | Nyle | compiz fusion |
| 20:19.07 | Nyle | :D |
| 20:19.08 | atlfalcons | rotating cubes? |
| 20:19.16 | Nyle | i don't use cubes but yes |
| 20:19.52 | atlfalcons | i hate how everthing dosent integrate into gnome |
| 20:19.54 | PeterFA | I remember this girl who's white talked about all her ancestries. See, all white people are a combination of just about every blond-haired, blue-eyed culture, that is North-Western Europe. Then I said, "Wow, you're so white, dude." Well, her Mexican friend, perhaps on a knee-jerk reaction stuck her foot in her mouth saying, "Oooh!" |
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| 20:20.26 | Nyle | you my friend, need to stop smoking crack. |
| 20:20.29 | atlfalcons | whats a good kde based distro |
| 20:20.40 | Nyle | aleks|t2i: based? |
| 20:20.44 | atlfalcons | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:20.49 | atlfalcons | like ubuntu defualts to gnome |
| 20:20.50 | Nyle | just install debian and install kde |
| 20:20.54 | Nyle | kubuntu |
| 20:20.55 | PeterFA | atlfalcons, Kubuntu. |
| 20:21.01 | atlfalcons | kubuntu |
| 20:21.01 | Nyle | if you need more pampering |
| 20:21.04 | PeterFA | I like Gentoo personally. |
| 20:21.07 | Nyle | if you have ubuntu |
| 20:21.09 | Nyle | you are set |
| 20:21.21 | Nyle | just apt-get install kde kubuntu-desktop |
| 20:21.26 | atlfalcons | i am going to wipe my ubuntu install anyway |
| 20:21.36 | atlfalcons | its messed up |
| 20:21.40 | apokryphos | atlfalcons: openSUSE is very nice for kde |
| 20:21.40 | Nyle | I installed kubuntu over the network |
| 20:21.49 | PeterFA | Nyle, I need the pampering only Portage supplies. I need to have all packages available to me, easily configurable, and I need my configurations to keep throughout all events. |
| 20:21.59 | atlfalcons | brb in a half hour |
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| 20:22.40 | Nyle | everyone has a favorite distro they feel strongly about. Its no big deal |
| 20:22.53 | trin | I don't have any strong feelings for any distro |
| 20:22.57 | trin | :) lol |
| 20:22.59 | trin | hi everyone |
| 20:23.06 | Nyle | use whatever works, and you can only find out what works if and only if you try a few and learn for yourself |
| 20:23.24 | PeterFA | trin, someday, there will be one special distro, and amongst all the other distros, you'll look at her and say, "Ah, that's the one!" |
| 20:23.32 | Nyle | well so far |
| 20:23.41 | Nyle | debian is leading the way in being a universal os |
| 20:23.42 | trin | and which one would that be PeterFA? :D |
| 20:23.48 | PeterFA | trin, Gentoo of course. |
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| 20:24.03 | trin | lol, I tried Gentoo; 2 much command line, I'm a Mac guy |
| 20:24.03 | apokryphos | Nyle: erm, what? |
| 20:24.20 | PeterFA | trin, I'm sorry to hear about your handicaps. |
| 20:24.22 | Nyle | apokryphos: what what? |
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| 20:24.44 | apokryphos | Nyle: 'leading the way in being a universal os'? |
| 20:24.51 | Nyle | yes |
| 20:25.03 | Nyle | soon we will migrate to a new earthlike planet |
| 20:25.05 | PeterFA | Gentoo is only command line for a while, unless you stick with command line. After that it becomes as much graphical as you like, or as much command line as you want. |
| 20:25.06 | apokryphos | meaning what, exactly? It works on your desktop and server? |
| 20:25.07 | Nyle | it will be named Debian |
| 20:25.21 | trin | @PeterFA :: Apple progressed people away from the command line to do things faster, more efficiently and more intuitively with the GUI. No point in regressing back. |
| 20:25.25 | Nyle | and it shall rule the galaxy with its iron hand of militantly free software |
| 20:25.36 | trin | lol |
| 20:25.49 | PeterFA | trin, I'm sorry to hear about your recent intellectual difficulties. |
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| 20:26.23 | trin | alright, I see you got a bug up your ass PeterFA. good talkin with you |
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| 20:26.44 | PeterFA | trin, it's his one button mouse! It hurts so bad. |
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| 20:27.01 | PeterFA | Even my mom knows how to use the command line. |
| 20:27.04 | derek__ | trin:faster? efficiently? |
| 20:27.08 | Nyle | umm |
| 20:27.13 | Nyle | what kind of a moron are you? |
| 20:27.17 | Nyle | seriously |
| 20:27.39 | trin | your mom? lol... |
| 20:27.40 | Nyle | efficiency doesn't com from command line |
| 20:27.52 | Nyle | it comes from being used to and working fast with what you use |
| 20:28.01 | Nyle | if he works best with a mac, why are you going to make fun of him? |
| 20:28.06 | Nyle | are you really that immature? |
| 20:28.24 | Aerdan | Faster? More efficiently? More intuitively? Please, lay off the buzzwords! ;) |
| 20:28.30 | PeterFA | Nyle, because there is a bash shell in OS X, and the command line has some powerful merits that make great opportunities available. |
| 20:28.48 | Aerdan | [And I dunno...I can change directories and do stuff faster with the commandline than I can with any point'n'drool interface...] |
| 20:28.58 | Nyle | it doesn't matter the semantics of his situation, my point is tht you are being a dick |
| 20:29.03 | Nyle | you need to chill out |
| 20:29.30 | Nyle | you can tell him to use the command line in a nice way too, think about it |
| 20:29.37 | Nyle | that might yeild better results even an agreement |
| 20:29.43 | PeterFA | Nyle, his implicit insults against command line only show is ignorance. I need to prevent this from perverting the rest of the world. |
| 20:29.57 | trin | ? lol |
| 20:29.59 | Nyle | so being adick to him won't get him to see your point |
| 20:30.07 | PeterFA | Nyle, are you being a dick with me? |
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| 20:30.13 | PeterFA | Nyle, because I'm still not seeing your point. |
| 20:30.24 | Nyle | point is, grow up. |
| 20:30.27 | trin | PeterFA |
| 20:30.27 | trin | : trin, Gentoo of course. |
| 20:30.27 | trin | trin |
| 20:30.27 | trin | : lol, I tried Gentoo; 2 much command line, I'm a Mac guy |
| 20:30.35 | trin | that wasn't an implicit insult to the command line PeterFA |
| 20:30.41 | trin | I think you misunderstood what I said |
| 20:30.44 | trin | or what I meant |
| 20:30.48 | PeterFA | trin, that's not what i was refering too. |
| 20:30.56 | trin | Dude, that is how this all started |
| 20:31.01 | Nyle | you were the one who attacked his intelligence |
| 20:31.09 | Nyle | he never insulted anything |
| 20:31.12 | Nyle | only you did PeterFA |
| 20:31.17 | Nyle | wanna scroll up? |
| 20:31.37 | PeterFA | trin, the moment you said that Mac moved people away from command line and that there's no point in going back implied that command line is inferior, when it is the other way around. Graphics are just nice to work with, but command line is so much more powerful, and you speak very ignorantly. |
| 20:31.42 | trin | trin |
| 20:31.43 | trin | : lol, I tried Gentoo; 2 much command line, I'm a Mac guy |
| 20:31.43 | trin | [12:24PM] |
| 20:31.43 | trin | apokryphos |
| 20:31.43 | trin | : Nyle: erm, what? |
| 20:31.43 | trin | [12:24PM] |
| 20:31.45 | trin | PeterFA |
| 20:31.47 | trin | : trin, I'm sorry to hear about your handicaps. |
| 20:31.49 | Nyle | i give up |
| 20:31.59 | trin | after I said Gentoo, you said handicaps; now who started insulting 1st? |
| 20:32.01 | Nyle | have it |
| 20:32.05 | Nyle | have at it* |
| 20:32.10 | MinceR | zomg drama |
| 20:32.11 | PeterFA | trin, that was about your failure with Gentoo based on your distaste for command line. |
| 20:32.19 | PeterFA | trin, you basically showed yourself to be handicapped. |
| 20:32.26 | trin | PeterFA |
| 20:32.27 | trin | : trin, that was about your failure with Gentoo based on your distaste for command line. |
| 20:32.27 | trin | [12:32PM] PeterFA: trin, you basically showed yourself to be handicapped. |
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| 20:32.31 | trin | hardly |
| 20:32.40 | PeterFA | trin, such rubbing really is just to nudge you back into trying again. |
| 20:32.42 | Aerdan | [Of course, I've been using Linux since I was about 8 or so. Used to read mail on the mailserver with pine, too. ;)] |
| 20:32.58 | Nyle | Aerdan: yup, since 1995 here |
| 20:32.59 | trin | PeterFA |
| 20:33.00 | trin | : trin, such rubbing really is just to nudge you back into trying again. |
| 20:33.23 | Aerdan | well, I'm 21 now, so draw your own conclusions as to when I started using Linux. ;) |
| 20:33.34 | PeterFA | trin, it's also to prevent you from copying and pasting out of context... |
| 20:33.41 | trin | PeterFA, please do not join the Gentoo marketing team. You give Linux users a bad name. |
| 20:33.41 | PeterFA | I see your point and raise you, I'm out of here. |
| 20:33.45 | trin | Take a look at Nyle |
| 20:33.51 | Nyle | ? |
| 20:33.52 | Aerdan | trin: please stop with the multiline pastes. |
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| 20:34.24 | trin | anyways, thanks Nyle for defending |
| 20:34.33 | Nyle | I wasn't defending you |
| 20:34.43 | Aerdan | I'm sorry if you don't like Gentoo, but it has a GUI wrapper for portage. |
| 20:34.43 | Nyle | I was defending civility and ettiquette |
| 20:34.50 | trin | I was wondering what the preferred method of Windows emulation was in Linux. |
| 20:34.54 | Nyle | wine |
| 20:34.56 | PeterFA | I suppose if you don't want the truth, then living in a fantasy is good enough. Join the Windows users list. |
| 20:34.59 | trin | Well, then, I'm happy you were there then. |
| 20:35.20 | Nyle | trin: /ignore works wonders |
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| 20:35.38 | Aerdan | trin: as does having a thick skin. |
| 20:35.39 | trin | will do Nyle |
| 20:36.02 | Aerdan | this is the internet; taking things personally is just asking for problems. ;) |
| 20:36.10 | PeterFA | Nyle, I have been known to /ignore to the point people insulted me on it. Of course I put them on ignore. |
| 20:36.59 | Nyle | http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml |
| 20:37.03 | Nyle | please read. |
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| 20:37.13 | PeterFA | It was really his dirty attitude towards Gentoo and command line, both things I really like and know how to use. Such scoffing is just irritating. Yeah, regressing to immaturity happens even to those of us who try not to lose it. |
| 20:38.01 | PeterFA | And "too much command line" so much looks like, "I need a babysitter" that such bait is all to easily jumped on. |
| 20:38.19 | Nyle | so what if he needs a babysitter |
| 20:38.24 | Nyle | why does it matter to you? |
| 20:38.50 | Nyle | if you dont' want to support him on irc, then don't. |
| 20:38.53 | Nyle | no one is forcing you. |
| 20:38.59 | PeterFA | Nyle, right, fine. |
| 20:39.07 | PeterFA | I need to go anyways. |
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| 20:40.24 | Nyle | trin: btw, you really should look into a little bit of command line. There are a lot of things you can automate, lot of cool time saving tricks etc. etc. It is only useful :) |
| 20:40.50 | Nyle | trin: if you want to use linux, you can't ignore the command line |
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| 20:41.08 | Nyle | trin: if you are happy with a mac, then have at it |
| 20:41.17 | trin | Linux can't beat Windows except in the server space by using a command line interface. |
| 20:41.29 | trin | And I am very interested in Linux and its success. |
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| 20:42.09 | Nyle | well these days with the advent of live cds and automatic hw detection and lots of opensource drivers, linux is a very good desktop OS as well |
| 20:42.20 | Nyle | imo better than windows, but thats my opinion |
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| 20:43.05 | sourcemaker | is there a developer channel available? |
| 20:43.08 | trin | I hate Windows, in almost every way imaginable. I prefer Mac's. But I'm intrigued with Linux and wish it success against Windows. |
| 20:43.40 | Nyle | i love windowa |
| 20:43.46 | Nyle | i use windows xp pro x64 |
| 20:43.59 | Nyle | its amazingly stable |
| 20:44.15 | trin | A linux-Windows fan, an odd combo |
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| 20:44.25 | Nyle | I love computers and computer systems |
| 20:44.35 | apokryphos | this is really off-topic for #kde Please take it over to ##linux or ##windows |
| 20:44.46 | trin | sorry apokryphos |
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| 20:46.44 | trin | I'm working on finding a recommendable, easy to use, Linux desktop OS. Not for myself, but for others. |
| 20:46.53 | Nyle | go with kubuntu |
| 20:46.54 | trin | I think I want to use KDE for the desktop environment |
| 20:47.02 | trin | ya |
| 20:47.32 | trin | I was considering that, but OpenSuse (from the limited materials I have read) is/was considered "the" KDE desktop platform. |
| 20:48.06 | kakalto_ | isn't PCLinuxOS the current favourite? |
| 20:48.07 | trin | btw: why do so many people dislike RPM distros. (i don't care one way or the other). is there a particular reason? |
| 20:48.09 | Nyle | I would go with kubuntu, only because I don't have suse experience |
| 20:48.11 | sourcemaker | Is there a documentation available... how to setup KDevelop for KDE4 development? |
| 20:48.18 | kakalto_ | trin: something known as "rpm hell" |
| 20:48.36 | Nyle | go with debian or a debian based distro |
| 20:48.53 | Nyle | if you want stability and security as well as ease of use, you can't go wrong with debian stable |
| 20:49.04 | trin | @kakalto_ :: RPM hell? what does that mean? is RPM inferior? (i have no idea about its advantages or disadvantages, not taking sides) |
| 20:49.14 | trin | Debian, I'll download that |
| 20:49.15 | Nyle | trin: I would ask these questions in ##linux |
| 20:49.19 | trin | oh ok |
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| 20:50.44 | kakalto_ | trin: in my experience with rpm distros (which is relatively limited, tbh), to get particular packages I want (eg. multimedia codecs), they haven't been available by default, and basically, (atleast in the past) it was a huge hassle to get these working. Furthermore, every major rpm distro has its own "type" of rpm - SuSE RPM, Red Hat/Fedora RPM, Mandriva RPM |
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| 20:52.06 | kakalto_ | trin: for more info, head to wikipedia "dependency hell" |
| 20:52.16 | kakalto_ | anyways, I'll be out for a few hours, bye all. |
| 20:52.24 | trin | thanks Kakalto for the info |
| 20:52.28 | kakalto_ | np. |
| 20:52.28 | trin | I'll check that out |
| 20:53.23 | apokryphos | kakalto_: (i) completely untrue for today; (ii) so do debian-based distros, frequently. Ubuntu packages are not compatible with debian ones. |
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| 20:54.07 | kakalto_ | I must apologise, I haven't touched SuSE since 10.0 and fedora since about... 5/6? |
| 20:54.50 | trin | I like OpenSuse (thus far from the 5 hours I've played with it) |
| 20:54.53 | trin | lol |
| 20:55.09 | trin | which means nothing |
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| 21:03.20 | luyt | Microsoft promises us a 'richer' user experience |
| 21:03.40 | luyt | Maybe next year they'll promote a 'sustainable' user experience, or a 'green' one |
| 21:03.59 | luyt | Fact is that MS operating system burn CPU cycles unnecessary |
| 21:05.08 | Aerdan | I'm reminded of the issue where if you turn off the 'copying files' animation, copying files is as much as 200% faster cos it's not rendering a low-colour animation. ;) |
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| 21:07.30 | trin | lol |
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| 21:09.24 | luyt | in Vista, it is not unusual to see 5% of the CPU dedicated to running some background processes which check what MP3's and videos you're watching |
| 21:09.27 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: just as info, i wont be doing iso-images based on opensuse kiwi build service. opensuse yast, specifically the packet manager just su**s and has stupid bugs. no way i will touch it until next major release |
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| 21:09.58 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Ok, sorry to hear that. Thanks for keeping me informed :) |
| 21:10.59 | chris__ | SSJ_GZ: yeah, i dont want to disapperaear in the dark without telling people why. good luck for your project :-) |
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| 21:11.52 | SSJ_GZ | chris__: Thanks :) |
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| 21:21.45 | supersako | hey guys anyone here use kdemod? |
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| 21:34.46 | ElTimo | I can't seem to get kdm-kde4 to install on Ubuntu Gutsy AMD64. It keeps exiting with return code 1. |
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| 21:36.18 | ElTimo | any suggestions? |
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| 22:24.47 | fornes | hi good night i have somecuestions iḿ spanish if in this place there is a person who explaine to me how can i get install the broadcom chipsset |
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| 22:25.35 | sandsmark | fornes: this is the KDE support channel |
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| 22:25.48 | sandsmark | fornes: I suggest you ask in the channel for you distribution |
| 22:25.49 | fornes | yesiḿ ussing kde but i cant get it |
| 22:25.57 | qknight | hey. anyone an idea why my konqueror is so damn slow? |
| 22:25.59 | fornes | iḿ ussing fedora 8 |
| 22:26.03 | sandsmark | fornes: this channel has nothing to do with broadcom |
| 22:26.04 | fornes | kde |
| 22:26.17 | sandsmark | fornes: try #fedora-es or something similar |
| 22:26.17 | fornes | ok wich channel could you recommend |
| 22:26.17 | fornes | ? |
| 22:26.25 | fornes | thanks |
| 22:26.31 | fornes | one cuestion |
| 22:26.39 | sandsmark | qknight: what color depth are you on? |
| 22:26.45 | fornes | whats name is the port scan in fedora? |
| 22:27.15 | sandsmark | fornes: ask in #fedora or #fedora-es |
| 22:27.47 | fornes | but is fedora kde men |
| 22:27.49 | fornes | :O |
| 22:28.23 | sandsmark | fornes: No, Fedora is a distribution, KDE is just one of many desktop environments that run on Fedora |
| 22:29.11 | fornes | okko thanks to explaine me that |
| 22:29.13 | fornes | :P |
| 22:30.00 | sandsmark | ;) |
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| 22:32.01 | Simkin | sandsmark: not just one, but the best of them all. |
| 22:33.03 | sandsmark | of course;) |
| 22:33.15 | sandsmark | The Desktop Environment to rule them all! |
| 22:33.35 | Simkin | no, to konquer them all :) |
| 22:33.41 | sandsmark | :P |
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| 22:34.01 | sandsmark | I thought k-prefixed names where deprecated |
| 22:34.04 | qknight | sandsmark: not sure. 'dept of root window: 24 planes" |
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| 22:34.54 | sandsmark | qknight: is it slow rendering, and is it on all pages, or just soem? |
| 22:34.55 | sandsmark | *some |
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| 22:35.19 | qknight | sandsmark: think google.de is really fast. and firefox in general is much faster |
| 22:35.25 | qknight | maybe it has something to do with my wireless lan |
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| 22:35.37 | sandsmark | qknight: but it scrolls smoothly? |
| 22:35.40 | qknight | i'm not sure. but the firefox is much much faster in general |
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| 22:35.45 | qknight | yes scrolling is very nice |
| 22:35.54 | sandsmark | then I don't know |
| 22:35.55 | qknight | it's just loading damn slow |
| 22:35.59 | qknight | sandsmark: thanks anywya |
| 22:36.18 | sandsmark | well, the only other idea could be that you have some funky proxy enabled or something |
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| 22:36.39 | sandsmark | and btw, qtopia takes time to compile... |
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| 22:47.08 | Xinill | hi |
| 22:47.21 | sandsmark | Hi |
| 22:47.24 | Xinill | Is that true that plasma won't have support for icons on desktop? ._. |
| 22:47.33 | Xinill | I heard that somewher |
| 22:47.35 | Xinill | e |
| 22:47.40 | sandsmark | Xinill: depends on what you mean with icons |
| 22:48.06 | sandsmark | Xinill: afaik, you will be able to have links etc. to programs on the desktop, but it won't be a folder where you can just store all kinds of random files |
| 22:48.07 | Xinill | Well......icons, just like in KDE3, Windows, Gnome...? |
| 22:48.29 | Xinill | ohh |
| 22:48.52 | Xinill | that's bad :/ |
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| 22:49.09 | Aerdan | not really. the desktop is not a destination. |
| 22:49.20 | nuonguy | speaker-test plays on only one speaker |
| 22:49.25 | Xinill | I'm using desktop as, well.......temportary folder for anything, so it's really bad for me :| |
| 22:49.29 | nuonguy | I just compiled alsa from hg |
| 22:49.51 | Aerdan | Xinill: it's not hard to switch to some other directory for that, really. |
| 22:49.51 | nuonguy | aplay -l and aplay -L list my hardware, but speaker-test plays on only one of the speakers |
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| 22:50.29 | Xinill | Aerdan - we'll see |
| 22:50.36 | Aerdan | Xinill: and you can solve that by always running a dolphin or konqueror instance. |
| 22:51.24 | Xinill | Yes, yes, but i just can't imagine desktop not acting like a folder ;) |
| 22:51.29 | sandsmark | I usually have a tmp-folder in my home-folder |
| 22:51.36 | nuonguy | whoops - wrong forum - sorry |
| 22:51.48 | Xinill | Hope there will be any way to use it ''as always'' |
| 22:52.17 | sandsmark | Xinill: you can probably have a Desktop-folder in your homefolder, but you'll have to browse it with Dolphin;) |
| 22:52.21 | sandsmark | or konqi |
| 22:52.29 | sandsmark | maaaaaan, qtopia is huge... |
| 22:52.31 | Xinill | Konqi in my case ;) |
| 22:52.48 | sandsmark | dolphin is much more efficient, imho, when you get used to it;) |
| 22:53.18 | Xinill | But it don't have KIO, built-in web browser and other things ;) |
| 22:53.26 | Xinill | ...like tabs |
| 22:53.45 | Aerdan | so? |
| 22:54.06 | Xinill | So i more like konqeror, simply ;] |
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| 22:54.19 | sandsmark | Xinill: of course it is kio-enabled |
| 22:54.26 | FiNeX | re |
| 22:54.26 | Xinill | I like to have anything in one window |
| 22:54.36 | sandsmark | Xinill: and wtf do you use tabs for in a file-manager? |
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| 22:54.37 | Xinill | sandsmark: good to know, heh ;) |
| 22:54.41 | sandsmark | :P |
| 22:54.49 | sandsmark | Xinill: I can't think of any kde-apps that don't have tabs |
| 22:54.52 | sandsmark | *kio |
| 22:55.24 | Xinill | sandsmark - i just like using tabs everywhere instead of have a lot of un-needed window on taskbar :p |
| 22:55.46 | Xinill | windows* |
| 22:55.52 | sandsmark | Xinill: get a tabbed window-manager;) |
| 22:56.05 | Xinill | :o |
| 22:56.12 | Xinill | like? |
| 22:56.33 | sandsmark | isn't fluxbox tabbed? |
| 22:56.39 | Aerdan | um, KDE has workspaces. use those. |
| 22:56.52 | Xinill | eee...........fluxbox have.....taskbar like kde? |
| 22:57.00 | Xinill | I don't like multiple workspaces |
| 22:57.03 | Xinill | I just don't like them :p |
| 22:57.11 | Aerdan | why not? |
| 22:57.20 | Aerdan | they're, effectively, tabs for your window manager. |
| 22:57.42 | Xinill | But i simply don't like them :P |
| 22:57.50 | sandsmark | Xinill: http://www.teknidermy.com/screenshots/preview/fluxbox.400x347.png |
| 22:57.56 | Aerdan | ...why don't you like them? |
| 22:58.00 | sandsmark | Xinill: tabs on the windows |
| 22:58.05 | Aerdan | this is not a hard question. |
| 22:58.14 | Xinill | I can open anything in one konqueror window, so why i should try any other things? :P |
| 22:58.48 | sandsmark | Xinill: because you might enjoy it?;) |
| 22:58.52 | Xinill | [sorry for my english, it's bad] |
| 22:59.00 | sandsmark | mine too, don't worry;) |
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| 22:59.47 | Xinill | Maybe. |
| 23:00.26 | sandsmark | I just went cold-turkey with dolphin instead of konqueror a couple of weeks, and I got so fond of dolphin I stuck with it |
| 23:01.03 | Xinill | Isn't konqueror using a dolphin kpart to file-browsing? |
| 23:01.12 | Aerdan | ...no. |
| 23:01.19 | Xinill | :o |
| 23:01.27 | Aerdan | Konqueror's filebrowsing hasn't changed. |
| 23:01.55 | Aerdan | it's just not going to be maintained except for bugfixes now that dolphin's the official default file manager. |
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| 23:02.56 | sandsmark | how about for browsing purposes? |
| 23:03.40 | Aerdan | the web browsing-related stuff's still going to be maintained, AFAIK. |
| 23:04.32 | sandsmark | I would like a single-focus browser too, though |
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| 23:05.01 | sandsmark | I looked into creating a simple kpart-based app, but my (lack of) c++ knowledge made me give up before I really started |
| 23:05.04 | sandsmark | ;) |
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| 23:16.01 | shrink__ | hi everyone |
| 23:16.24 | shrink__ | when i plug in my ipod kde never asks me if i want to mount it or anything |
| 23:16.38 | shrink__ | no dialog window, nothing |
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| 23:18.05 | shrink__ | running fedora 8 with kde 3.5.8, qt 3.3.8 |
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| 23:19.11 | Xinill | shrink__: install amarok |
| 23:19.26 | Xinill | It support ipods |
| 23:19.35 | shrink__ | Xinill, i have amarok |
| 23:19.46 | Xinill | .....maybe start amarok then? :] |
| 23:19.51 | shrink__ | but i had to mount my ipod manually and amarok still didnt recognize it |
| 23:20.03 | Xinill | Heh........no idea then ;) |
| 23:20.11 | Xinill | brb |
| 23:20.21 | fishbowls98 | hey folks how badly have i borked my install if i get the error 'call to lnusertemp failed' during login and then it just cycles back to the login screen |
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| 23:23.24 | maki | my mouse just died, how can i enable numpad navigation from konsole? |
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| 23:29.24 | Valdrone | What's the best distro to use to tinker around in kde4? |
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| 23:31.51 | sandsmark | Valdrone: whatever you use already |
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| 23:32.04 | sandsmark | Valdrone: but OpenSuse has the most up-to-date packages |
| 23:32.21 | Aerdan | Valdrone: whichever has qemu in a ready-to-use form. ;) |
| 23:32.47 | Aerdan | [Assuming you'd like to use the KDE4 Daily image, that is.] |
| 23:34.32 | Valdrone | Seeing as I'm running Fedora right noww, and it completely fell over when going through the install steps and is stuck without qmake. |
| 23:35.14 | sandsmark | I use kubuntu |
| 23:35.25 | sandsmark | and it works for me (tm) |
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| 23:36.53 | Aerdan | I use Windows. :P |
| 23:37.13 | Aerdan | ...well, at the moment, anyway. Would rather use Linux, but I don't have a separate machine to dedicate to Windows games. |
| 23:37.13 | sandsmark | nothing personal;) |
| 23:37.22 | sandsmark | a Wintendo? |
| 23:37.24 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 23:37.28 | Aerdan | :P |
| 23:38.11 | shrink__ | btw my ipod started after a reboot and after installing pam_mount and pmount :) |
| 23:38.17 | shrink__ | dunno if the installs helped though |
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| 23:39.58 | Valdrone | ...You can install kde4 on kubuntu using the latest checkout...right? |
| 23:40.15 | sandsmark | Valdrone: yes |
| 23:40.29 | Valdrone | Seeing as googling kubuntu kde4 brings up nothing but Krash. |
| 23:40.50 | sandsmark | Valdrone: look at techbase for instructions on how to build it yourself |
| 23:41.07 | sandsmark | Valdrone: or kubuntu.org to get pre-compiled packages |
| 23:42.28 | Valdrone | Right, well, I've just attempted to build it myself on Fedora and it, so far, has hopelessly failed. I'm not sure if it's my fault or the distro's fault, but I'd prefer the easiest distro to install it on. |
| 23:42.38 | Valdrone | Looking at Kubuntu, it'd have the most support for that sort of thing. |
| 23:42.56 | sandsmark | Valdrone: OpenSUSE has kde4 packages that are supposed to be updated each week |
| 23:43.15 | sandsmark | Valdrone: what do you want to use the kde4 environment for? |
| 23:43.30 | sandsmark | if you just want to test out/debug, you should just use kde4daily |
| 23:43.43 | Valdrone | Actually, never mind, qmake was just hopelessly failing while sshing into the kde-devel |
| 23:44.11 | Valdrone | I just want to tinker around in it |
| 23:44.23 | Valdrone | Possibly develop widgets and the like |
| 23:44.39 | sandsmark | Valdrone: just give kde4daily a spin first then |
| 23:44.55 | sandsmark | Valdrone: you won't get fancy compositing and stuff, but most animations etc. work okay |
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| 23:46.05 | Valdrone | Meh, I don't really like the idea of using qemu |
| 23:46.59 | sandsmark | Valdrone: why? |
| 23:47.08 | sandsmark | Valdrone: it isn't as bad as it seems, esp. if you use km |
| 23:47.09 | sandsmark | *kvm |
| 23:48.43 | sandsmark | and I must say I prefer qtopia |
| 23:49.23 | Valdrone | Actually, now I'm confused |
| 23:49.54 | Valdrone | Why is it that /home/(logged in user)/qt-copy exists but not in /home/kde-devel/ |
| 23:50.37 | sandsmark | Valdrone: where are you? |
| 23:50.57 | Valdrone | Uhh |
| 23:51.39 | Valdrone | I've got two terminals open. One at garrett@localhost and the other sshed into kde-devel |
| 23:51.39 | sandsmark | as in, are you talking about the kde4daily environment? |
| 23:51.43 | Valdrone | No |
| 23:51.47 | Valdrone | Still in Fedora |
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| 23:52.16 | sandsmark | then you probably checked out in the wrong terminal |
| 23:52.33 | Valdrone | Actually |
| 23:52.35 | Valdrone | Going into root |
| 23:52.51 | Valdrone | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.08 | Valdrone | And so says the ssh'd terminal |
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