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| 00:02.35 | LPLATES | Hey all :) -- Simple question- but I can't for the life of me find the options -- Where does one configure "how many clicks" it takes to OPEN/ACTIVATE Folder/Files in Konqueror --- Cuz it's driving me crazy trying to find it - THANKYOU :D |
| 00:02.57 | pinotree | single click or double click, you mean? |
| 00:03.12 | LPLATES | yep :) |
| 00:03.43 | benJIman | kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse |
| 00:04.37 | LPLATES | benJIman: THANKYOU :D ---- under "mouse" ---- GRRRR ... been looking everywhere else :P |
| 00:04.45 | benJIman | Searching for double click, or single click would have found it btw. |
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| 00:08.05 | LPLATES | benJIman: Well I did the whole looking through Konq. Settings menu - it should've been there really,[file managers should have overrides from default click amounts etc] and looked in Control Panel for Theme, Desktop, .. and all that ... "Mouse" ... grrr :D - thanks again :) |
| 00:08.24 | LPLATES | Later :) |
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| 00:08.41 | benJIman | LPLATES: BTW you can cope with single click in konqueror, just use control-lick to select files, or drag-select |
| 00:09.28 | benJIman | Minor inconvenience there doesn't justify doubling the work required for most operations. |
| 00:11.01 | aa_ | I wouldn't necessarily describe double clicking as doubling the work |
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| 00:11.13 | LPLATES | benJIman: Well had DoubleClick for normal account and SingleClick for Root Konq.,(had found the option once before, way back when.. lol) ... but lately having to move files around as Root to my DVR Gentoo box,(lan'd FreeBSD & Gentoo) the Control click thing then seek to move, often un-highlights the control'd clicked icon when seeking to move a group of files and it becomes frustrating rehighlight |
| 00:11.25 | LPLATES | rehighlighting. |
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| 00:12.02 | LPLATES | and some other checks get annoying at times with a single click looking to execute if I forget the Control key 1st :) |
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| 00:14.05 | LPLATES | Later :) |
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| 00:18.01 | sam1337 | What would happen if I deleted ~/.kde ? |
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| 00:18.45 | tcpsyn | you'd lose all your settings |
| 00:18.58 | pinotree | and some personal data |
| 00:19.16 | |dthacker| | where in Kontact do I set the program that opens when I click a URL in a mail reading pane? |
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| 00:20.07 | pinotree | |dthacker|: those follow the global file associations |
| 00:20.44 | |dthacker| | ok, tnx |
| 00:21.39 | sam1337 | KDE has programs that work together and feel similar... Quite like Windows Xp in a way... |
| 00:22.30 | |dthacker| | but much better |
| 00:22.34 | pinotree | sam1337: well, it feels like what the user expects |
| 00:23.11 | pinotree | if i set to use eg konqueror as web browser, i'd expect this setting to be used in all the kde apps |
| 00:23.30 | pinotree | ditto for the single/double click of the mouse, and for many other settings |
| 00:23.38 | pinotree | that's called "integration" |
| 00:23.50 | sam1337 | Will kde 4.0 start up faster? Kde seems to take along time to startup for me and I'm running a fairly decent pc. |
| 00:24.11 | TheSimkin | how long is it taking? |
| 00:24.49 | sam1337 | I haven't timed it but I think it takes about 7 seconds before my hdd quietens down. |
| 00:24.57 | sam1337 | maybe 10 |
| 00:25.23 | TheSimkin | i don't think it'll be faster for you with 4.0 |
| 00:26.10 | TheSimkin | and that seems pretty normal, why do you exit kde so much that this is a problem? |
| 00:27.02 | sam1337 | It's not really a problem I was just wondering why it takes so long, fluxbox starts up near instantly. |
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| 00:28.32 | TheSimkin | oh |
| 00:28.35 | TheSimkin | fluxbox is super tiny |
| 00:28.41 | sam1337 | Yep :) |
| 00:28.42 | TheSimkin | it does start pretty well instantly |
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| 00:33.03 | proprietarysucks | I can't open my trash in kde and when I try to send things to it they disappear but then reappear later, and never went to the trash |
| 00:33.04 | sam1337 | TheSimkin: Could you tell me what you think of my kde desktop please? Here's the link: http://smallurl.co.uk/?1798 |
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| 00:45.00 | Wofl | hey |
| 00:45.27 | sam1337 | hi |
| 00:45.27 | Wofl | when i shut down, and there are multiple users logged in, it waits for confirmation |
| 00:45.36 | Wofl | is there anyway to have a timeout for this |
| 00:46.01 | Wofl | so that if i hit shutdown and walk away, it will wait 5 minutes, and then just shutdown anyways |
| 00:46.13 | sam1337 | If kde can be made to look just like xp and wine can run all the xp programs then why do people still buy xp? |
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| 00:48.04 | amason__ | sam1337: 1) wine can't run all the xp programs, 2 ) why the hell would you want kde to look like xp ? |
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| 00:49.22 | derrich | for some reason i can't figure out, KDE is using metacity as its default window manager. i can run "kwin --replace &" and start using kwin again ... but i'd rather not have to do this every time i start KDE. where does KDE store this setting? i've tried grepping "meta" from everything in .kde/share/config , but no luck. |
| 00:49.43 | derrich | and from /usr/kde/3.5/share/config as well, also nothing found |
| 00:50.03 | sam1337 | amason_: 1 wine can run all the programs most xp users use, ie, msn messenger, office 2003 and 2 making kde look like xp would give the user a free xp experience without paying £70 or whatever the price is now. |
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| 00:55.14 | tcpsyn | man, building kde is no fun. |
| 00:55.24 | tcpsyn | I been at it for 10 straight hours |
| 00:56.33 | tcpsyn | sam1337, the xp experience sucks. |
| 00:56.58 | sam1337 | tcpsyn: Indeed but A LOT of people pay money for it. |
| 00:57.11 | tcpsyn | because they know no better. |
| 00:57.27 | tcpsyn | and not that many people plop out money for the OS. |
| 00:57.33 | tcpsyn | they buy a machine with XP loaded |
| 00:57.57 | tcpsyn | They're not gonna buy a machine, blast XP and install kubuntu. |
| 00:58.14 | tcpsyn | It's an age old argument, and it always goes nowhere. |
| 00:58.21 | sam1337 | tcpsyn: That's what I did. |
| 00:58.41 | tcpsyn | that's why your sam1337 |
| 00:58.48 | tcpsyn | and not just sam |
| 00:58.50 | tcpsyn | :) |
| 00:59.02 | sam1337 | lol sam was causing me problems for some reason |
| 00:59.08 | sam1337 | so I put in a number |
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| 01:00.26 | tcpsyn | like I said. |
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| 01:10.59 | Psychonaut | Is there a way of starting KDE programs such that the crash handler GUI is not invoked upon a crash? |
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| 01:15.05 | Psychonaut | ? |
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| 01:15.49 | caotic | hi, is there a way to make kwrite, qunta, etc, etc remplace something (lets say a space) with a carrier return |
| 01:15.50 | caotic | hi, is there a way to make kwrite, qunta, etc, etc remplace something (lets say a space) with a carrier return (enter) |
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| 01:16.10 | caotic | oh crap, i didnt want to repeat the text sry |
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| 01:20.27 | profoX` | caotic: Kate (and probably other apps that use Katepart) can find special characters like that, but I can't see an option to replace it by a carrier return or anything.. I think there was a way to use sed commands from inside kate though.. thats not as userfriendly but works too |
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| 01:23.45 | sam1337 | I don't like dolphin. |
| 01:23.52 | profoX` | I know the Kate version that is being worked on right now has a really cool find/replace function though :) but it's not out yet.. |
| 01:24.04 | profoX` | sam1337: I prefer good old Konq too |
| 01:24.12 | profoX` | it's just more flexible |
| 01:24.29 | sam1337 | profoX`: cool I thought I was the only one |
| 01:26.00 | profoX` | :) |
| 01:26.28 | sam1337 | I don't like the new menu I press middle mouse click anywhere on my desktop to bring up the applications menu, |
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| 01:26.59 | profoX` | sam1337: new menu where? are you talking about kde 4? |
| 01:27.13 | sam1337 | Yes. |
| 01:27.25 | profoX` | oh I haven't tested that one in a while :) |
| 01:27.33 | profoX` | my KDE 4 pc is currently in repair |
| 01:27.48 | sam1337 | I tried it on opensuse 10.2 for a while but didn't like it. |
| 01:27.50 | profoX` | (motherboard was buggy) |
| 01:27.55 | sam1337 | lol |
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| 01:28.56 | sam1337 | The performance increases are all that I'm really interested in. |
| 01:29.00 | profoX` | i had stripes and weird stuff going on, even in the bios setup :) and it got worse until it was unusable and i got many freezes.. heh well.. it still has guarantee :) |
| 01:29.14 | profoX` | or warranty |
| 01:29.21 | sam1337 | :) |
| 01:29.22 | profoX` | sorry my english is not always good :p |
| 01:29.36 | sam1337 | mine either especially this time of night |
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| 01:34.03 | proprietarysucks | I can't open my trash in kde and when I try to send things to it they disappear but then reappear later, and never went to the trash |
| 01:35.54 | sam1337 | I wish we had customisable kde at school. With the windows interface work can take a lot longer. |
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| 01:37.19 | sam1337 | What's best out of single click and double click? Atm I'm using double click. |
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| 01:37.57 | Jucato | "best" is what works for you. |
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| 01:42.26 | markc | is there a channel for kde4 specific issues ? |
| 01:44.36 | Jucato | markc: kde4-devel for kde4 development |
| 01:44.41 | Jucato | #kde4-devel for kde4 development |
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| 01:51.00 | markc | Jucato: thanks |
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| 01:52.02 | eidolon | hi folks, i have a very stupid question - i'm demoing KDE to some windows weenies in a couple days. Question. Where the heck is the trash can? it's not no the desktop, and it's not in the tooltray,a nd i can't figure out how to get it in either place. |
| 01:52.23 | Jucato | Konqueror, type "trash:/" in the location |
| 01:52.24 | eidolon | (KDE 3.5.1on Ubuntu Gutsy) |
| 01:53.31 | mark_alec | also check ~/.Trash |
| 01:53.43 | eidolon | so trash:/ shows me thr trash can - sorta. but how do i put that icon on my desktop? if i drag the url itself to the desktop, i get one of the files in the trashcan.. on my desktop :-/ |
| 01:53.43 | Jucato | that's GNOME's location/shortcut |
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| 01:55.16 | eidolon | this seems silly. if i copy the url (trash:/) and paste it to the desktop, i get a copy of the firefox shell script (which was in my trashcan) |
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| 01:55.35 | Jucato | eidolon: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Location (URL) and in the location put trash:/ |
| 01:56.02 | eidolon | that worked, jucato. how weird. |
| 01:56.41 | eidolon | thank you :) |
| 01:56.47 | Jucato | wait |
| 01:57.53 | Jucato | http://rafb.net/p/xSH4uU21.html |
| 01:58.02 | proprietarysucks | I can't open my trash in kde and when I try to send things to it they disappear but then reappear later, and never went to the trash |
| 01:58.16 | eidolon | Jucato: k. now what? |
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| 01:58.52 | Jucato | eidolon: that's the content of my trash.desktop file |
| 01:59.03 | Jucato | (the one that's created in the ~/Desktop folder) |
| 01:59.19 | Jucato | the important lines there would be the Icon and EmptyIcon lines |
| 01:59.56 | eidolon | http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/945 |
| 01:59.57 | eidolon | that's mine |
| 02:00.04 | Jucato | eidolon: if you don't set those 2 lines properly, the Trash icon on the desktop will show the same icon whether the trash is empty or full |
| 02:00.11 | eidolon | that's hwat happened with the commands you gave me. seems okay. |
| 02:00.15 | eidolon | oh i see. |
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| 02:00.22 | Jucato | yep. just set the correct icons and you'll be fine |
| 02:00.48 | eidolon | works |
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| 02:00.54 | eidolon | odd that didn't set that up right htough :( |
| 02:01.45 | Jucato | it's not automatic :) |
| 02:02.09 | eidolon | rght. but i'm puzzled why the default desktop had no trash icon at all. |
| 02:02.12 | eidolon | seems... broken. |
| 02:02.19 | Jucato | not really. |
| 02:02.33 | Jucato | KDE has a icons on the desktop by default |
| 02:02.43 | proprietarysucks | my trash doesn't work in kde can someone help me out |
| 02:02.54 | Jucato | eidolon: it's a Kubuntu thing... |
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| 02:03.27 | eidolon | ah :( |
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| 02:03.43 | eidolon | i did a gutsy gibbon install of baseline ubuntu, then did 'aptitude install kde' - that's where i ended up here. |
| 02:04.08 | Jucato | uh oh... |
| 02:04.11 | Jucato | oh well.. |
| 02:04.17 | eidolon | oh well? *worry?* |
| 02:04.36 | Jucato | nah. you just end up with the whole KDE suite vs. the Kubuntu defaults :) |
| 02:04.48 | eidolon | i have a lot of disk space. :) |
| 02:05.31 | Jucato | well, if you want to demo the full extent of KDE :) |
| 02:05.44 | Jucato | otherwise people might misinterpret it as clutter :) |
| 02:05.53 | proprietarysucks | you installed ubuntu then kde? |
| 02:06.11 | proprietarysucks | you have never heard of kubuntu ? |
| 02:06.13 | eidolon | *grin* mostly wat i want to show them is "It's possible to live in a linux desktop in a microsoft world. You do need vmware for Outlook, and other platform-only tools) |
| 02:06.23 | eidolon | proprietarysucks: did i say i didn't know about kubuntu? |
| 02:06.39 | eidolon | answer: no. |
| 02:06.40 | proprietarysucks | you said you installed ubuntu and then kde so yeah basically |
| 02:06.52 | eidolon | proprietarysucks: hint for you. stop making assumptions. |
| 02:07.12 | proprietarysucks | you are an idiot kde on ubuntu hahaha |
| 02:07.31 | eidolon | anyway. the demo is about vmware tools on a Linux desktop, so i'm using a machine i had set up for mobile use... just making sure all the little bells and whistles work "Yeah, but where's the trashcan??" sort of stuff. |
| 02:08.03 | proprietarysucks | maybe you should get xubuntu and install gnome on it |
| 02:08.46 | Jucato | proprietarysucks: there is no reason for him not to do what he wants with his system and there is no reason for you to insult other people |
| 02:09.52 | proprietarysucks | I can't open my trash in kde and when I try to send things to it they disappear but then reappear later, and never went to the trash |
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| 02:16.41 | eidolon | what the FUCK/ |
| 02:16.48 | eidolon | [21:16] <eidolonisgay> hey I'm trying to remove gnome from my ubuntu so I can install kde on it can you help me? |
| 02:16.53 | eidolon | wow. |
| 02:17.05 | eidolon | that's about the most childish crap i've seen on Freenode. Period. |
| 02:17.25 | Jucato | thought you already /ignore'd? |
| 02:18.00 | eidolon | he'susing a different account. |
| 02:18.22 | eidolon | wow. |
| 02:18.33 | eidolon | 15 years i've been on irc, and first time this sort of shit has happened on a support channel. |
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| 02:18.41 | proprietarysucks | I can't open my trash in kde and when I try to send things to it they disappear but then reappear later, and never went to the trash |
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| 02:19.12 | Jucato | eidolon: you can always ignore by IP/domain/host |
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| 02:20.25 | eidolon | apparently i also need to open a bug with the Konversation folks regarding /ignores :) |
| 02:20.34 | Jucato | why? |
| 02:20.38 | Jucato | what bug? |
| 02:20.59 | eidolon | an ignore i tried to set on proprietarysucks / eidolonisgay / whatever the hell his name is caused a segfault in konversation. |
| 02:21.51 | Jucato | heh |
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| 02:23.28 | eidolon | [21:22] <eidolonisgay> put it in my mouth <=============3 |
| 02:23.31 | eidolon | i love the net. |
| 02:23.40 | proprietarysucks | yuck dude |
| 02:23.54 | Jucato | yo troy_! :) |
| 02:24.28 | troy_ | Jucato: hola - just did the gutsy upgrade - now we'll see how bad d3lphin really is :P |
| 02:24.38 | Jucato | troy_: oh it's bad! :) |
| 02:24.57 | mikeff | anyone heard of a problem with kdesu saying wrong password, even if it is the right password? |
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| 02:25.11 | troy | I logout to reboot, and this guy takes my nick :P |
| 02:25.28 | Jucato | troy: what? you haven't registered both nicks yet? |
| 02:25.40 | troy | nope :P someone else owns troy_ even... |
| 02:25.41 | eidolon | proprietarysucks: considering said idjit has the same IP as you, you're really not being particularly witty. |
| 02:25.59 | Jucato | mikeff: what password are you feeding it? depending on your distro, it might be asking for the root password or the sudo password |
| 02:26.17 | troy | wow, X got really really slow after the upgrade - I wonder if my drivers didn't make the transition |
| 02:27.04 | mikeff | Jucato: im using gentoo, tried both passwords |
| 02:27.17 | Jucato | mikeff: try asking in #gentoo-kde |
| 02:27.30 | Jucato | by default it should just be asking for the root passwd |
| 02:27.44 | mikeff | thanks |
| 02:30.01 | Jucato | troy: have you seen my recent post? |
| 02:30.28 | troy | Jucato: not yet :) I'm trying to sort out why my nvidia drivers didn't make it through the upgrade :) |
| 02:30.37 | Jucato | hahaha |
| 02:30.40 | Jucato | funky :) |
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| 02:34.03 | proprietarysucks | guys can you contact me for anything about my problem with kde? here's my info |
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| 02:34.15 | proprietarysucks | Dave Belfer-Shevett |
| 02:34.20 | proprietarysucks | 9 Bayberry Road |
| 02:34.27 | proprietarysucks | Natick, MA 01760 |
| 02:34.38 | proprietarysucks | (978)2395902 |
| 02:34.47 | eidolon | OY MY GOD! THAT"S ME! YOU FUCKING PRICK! HOW'D YOU GET THAT!!! |
| 02:34.56 | eidolon | i gues syou ju8st typed 'whois' |
| 02:34.58 | eidolon | aren't you clever. |
| 02:35.29 | proprietarysucks | no that's me |
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| 02:35.56 | proprietarysucks | I weigh 240 pounds and I'm 43 |
| 02:36.10 | proprietarysucks | My birthday was on September the 8th 1964 |
| 02:36.24 | proprietarysucks | My hair is dark brown and my eyes are hazel |
| 02:36.25 | eidolon | is anyone interested in hearing this crap? cuz it's just him reading my blog. |
| 02:36.33 | Jucato | troy: aren't you an op? |
| 02:36.36 | proprietarysucks | that's me |
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| 02:37.18 | troy | Jucato: ahh, that post... not sure what to say, except that while you may not get the results you're looking for with that post... that said, it's never bad to stir things up sometimes just to see if you can get the community to think about the future |
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| 02:37.52 | Jucato | troy: yeah... although I think I only stirred up the wind in -devel :) |
| 02:38.05 | troy | Jucato: that's fine :) |
| 02:38.12 | proprietarysucks | anyone know why kde would not allow trash to open, or be used? |
| 02:38.58 | troy | proprietarysucks: broken io slave? try visiting your trash folder manually (eg /home/username/.kde/Trash or where-ever your distro puts it...) and see what happens |
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| 02:39.55 | troy | Jucato: it looks like I actually am using the nvidia driver, it's just too fucked up after the upgrade, and I get about a 1 second redraw lag when switching tabs or windows, or doing anything really... |
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| 02:40.51 | FreshPrince | gn @ all |
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| 02:41.26 | Jucato | yay aseigo! :) |
| 02:41.32 | illogic-al | hahah |
| 02:41.39 | eidolon | THANK you. |
| 02:41.42 | illogic-al | now that's an entrance |
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| 02:41.53 | aseigo | proprietarysucks: don't make me do worse |
| 02:42.03 | aseigo | proprietarysucks: because i will, and it will put me in a foul mood. |
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| 02:42.37 | proprietarysucks | su -c 'find . -name ".*rash*"' ==> ./media/500B.Trash-myuser only |
| 02:43.34 | juan | hi! does anyone know how to enable voice chat with kopete |
| 02:43.50 | eidolon | juan: try #kopete? :) |
| 02:43.54 | eidolon | they've been -super- helpful there. |
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| 02:45.53 | troy | Jucato: hey! one hour after the upgrade, I get a hard-hang! that's a good start :) |
| 02:46.11 | Jucato | troy: kool!! related to X/video driver? |
| 02:46.16 | illogic-al | upgrade? |
| 02:46.26 | Jucato | fawn -> monkey |
| 02:46.56 | troy | Jucato: dunno, it seems (and I could be wrong) that the system tried to enter suspend to disk for no reason... |
| 02:46.58 | illogic-al | i see what you did there ;-) |
| 02:47.06 | troy | illogic-al: kubuntu update *sigh* |
| 02:47.46 | troy | I'll try to downgrade the nvidia driver - if that fails, I think this is the end of the line for me and kubuntu once and for all... |
| 02:47.51 | illogic-al | yah. got that from Jucato's cleverly worded reply. |
| 02:48.09 | Jucato | :D |
| 02:48.17 | illogic-al | troy: if it makes you fell any better i'm running on the nvidia drivers just fine. |
| 02:48.17 | Jucato | troy: nooooooo!!! |
| 02:48.18 | proprietarysucks | anyone know why kde would not allow trash to open, or be used? If I send to trash and then refresh, they just come right back |
| 02:48.25 | Jucato | troy: fresh install fresh install!!! |
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| 02:52.22 | juan | does anyone know which messenger programme allows voice chat to msn and yahoo? |
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| 02:58.59 | mudder | hope he's left for good |
| 02:59.23 | illogic-al | what was he doing? |
| 02:59.53 | Jucato | insulting/annoying the hell out of eidolon, here and in private |
| 03:00.06 | mudder | the rudest behavior i've ever seen on irc |
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| 03:00.44 | illogic-al | mudder: you haven't been here that long have you? :-) |
| 03:01.19 | mudder | no i haven't |
| 03:02.06 | Jucato | :D |
| 03:02.21 | Jucato | lucky you :) |
| 03:02.28 | eidolon | dude, i've been on irc since 1991. i haven't seen that sort of crap outside of #hottub or the like in years. |
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| 03:12.56 | troy | Jucato: thankfully I have an installation of pcbsd on my other hard drive that I can flip over to in order to compensate for a kubuntu that doesn't live for more than a few minutes before freezing hard... |
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| 03:14.19 | troy | Jucato: I'm pretty sure it's due to the fact that I went the upgrade route - I've been upgrading that install since hedgehog :) -- there's a lot of cruft kicking around... |
| 03:14.48 | Jucato | and this is the first time it fubar'ed after an upgrade? |
| 03:15.14 | troy | well, the first time I've had it this bad, yes... |
| 03:15.42 | Jucato | :( |
| 03:15.44 | Jucato | so sad |
| 03:16.19 | troy | Jucato: I'm downloading mandriva 2008 right now - I like PC-BSD but it's really just not as polished as some other distros... I tried one of the mandriva betas earlier this year, and I think it'll do quite nicely... |
| 03:16.42 | Jucato | oh I thought you'd be sticking to PC-BSD ) |
| 03:16.43 | Jucato | :) |
| 03:16.49 | troy | I just wonder how they heck they get away with calling it 2008 when it isn't 2008 yet... |
| 03:17.12 | troy | it's like the car companies or something - always have to get your install out one year earlier ... :P |
| 03:17.19 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 03:18.02 | troy | Jucato: I might end up with the Chameleon, but just between you and me (onlookers, I expect you to purge this from your logs!), I distrust novel... |
| 03:18.44 | Scott5114 | I keep waiting for the day when you can buy a 2010 car in 2008 |
| 03:18.47 | troy | right-o! |
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| 03:19.22 | Jucato | troy: just between you an me (and again, I expect onlookers to delete this), I sort of distrust a certain man more than novell... just a bit :) |
| 03:19.37 | troy | Jucato: we actually talked about Suse and Novel and their strange relationship to KDE during FOSSCamp... |
| 03:19.56 | Jucato | stranger than you-know-what's relationshop to KDE? |
| 03:19.58 | Jucato | :D |
| 03:21.05 | troy | well, novell has officially come out in support of gnome for their commercial offerings, mostly because they bought Ximian, which is front loaded with gnome folks, and then when they bought Suse, they made the Ximian folks into the management team... |
| 03:21.52 | troy | so while opensuse is a strong KDE distro (mostly because of the pre-existing community and some developers that refuse to quit polishing it), novell's management is not exactly "gung-ho" about this idea |
| 03:22.10 | Jucato | but Novell still is the biggest employer of KDE developers right? |
| 03:22.22 | troy | well, trolltech is, really... |
| 03:22.30 | Jucato | well aside from Trolltech :P |
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| 03:22.36 | Jucato | (we don't have a Trolltech distro...) |
| 03:22.50 | Jucato | maybe we should! lol :D |
| 03:23.09 | troy | they are the biggest employer of KDE people within a distro... there are other companies that also employ KDE developers to some extent that might compete with Suse's numbers... KDAB for instance... |
| 03:23.45 | troy | I mean, they only employ like 5 people - that's not a lot compared to how many Redhat has working on the kernel, for example... |
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| 03:24.43 | Jucato | still more than any other distro I know :) |
| 03:24.44 | troy | I also distrust their agreement with microsoft - not because I distrust the Suse developers, but at some point I do expect MS to come after KDE directly, and I don't think Novell will be in a position to help us out, due to that agreement |
| 03:24.47 | Jucato | but yeah got your point :) |
| 03:25.19 | Jucato | MS won't come after KDE directly... that's too outright... they'll have someone do the dirty work for them :P |
| 03:25.42 | troy | well, KDE is already the target of at least one lawsuit in the US, albeit indirectly, since they are suing the distros... |
| 03:26.06 | Jucato | yeah. |
| 03:26.10 | Jucato | silly patents... |
| 03:26.14 | troy | and you're right, MS is doing it indirectly -- the patent holding firm is run by a former MS millionaire.... |
| 03:26.24 | illogic-al | wouldn't we have to have something to go after for ms to sue... |
| 03:26.26 | nixternal | let me guess, the "windows" patent lawsuit? |
| 03:26.41 | Jucato | nixternal: the multiple workspaces/desktop lawsuit :) |
| 03:26.45 | Nyle | illogic-al: hey |
| 03:26.55 | nixternal | illogic-al: ya, them having a trademark on the word "windows"...that is the reason they didn't persue lindows so much |
| 03:26.55 | troy | nixternal: the "multiple workspaces" one - basically, virtual desktops |
| 03:26.58 | nixternal | oh ya, that's right |
| 03:26.58 | illogic-al | sup Nyle |
| 03:27.04 | Jucato | illogic-al: we can't sue them for trying to copy brains... |
| 03:27.05 | Nyle | chillin |
| 03:27.08 | Nyle | sup wid you |
| 03:27.18 | illogic-al | bored |
| 03:27.32 | Nyle | illogic-al: why did you take out the 500gb drive? |
| 03:27.40 | illogic-al | so i'm listening to the latest conspiracy theories on irc. |
| 03:27.40 | Nyle | whats the matter with you |
| 03:27.49 | Nyle | :/ |
| 03:27.52 | illogic-al | Nyle: didn't. juan did. |
| 03:28.00 | Nyle | oh what a dick |
| 03:28.15 | troy | illogic-al: jaun == Jucato? |
| 03:28.31 | Nyle | no |
| 03:28.32 | Nyle | co worker |
| 03:28.38 | illogic-al | hahah. if it does, i'm referring to a diff. juan |
| 03:28.40 | Nyle | ex co worker |
| 03:28.56 | Nyle | illogic-al: my new roommate is also black |
| 03:28.58 | Nyle | cool huh |
| 03:29.04 | Jucato | troy: nope. that ain't me. I hate using that part of my name :) |
| 03:29.07 | Nyle | you should come over some time |
| 03:29.15 | Nyle | I got my kde desktop looking like your mac dela |
| 03:29.17 | Nyle | dela |
| 03:29.17 | troy | Nyle: the fact that you have to point that out is some sort of weird reverse-racism... |
| 03:29.19 | Nyle | deal* |
| 03:29.20 | illogic-al | Nyle: i sit unimpressed. |
| 03:29.31 | Nyle | illogic-al: of course you do |
| 03:29.34 | Nyle | ubuntard :) |
| 03:29.43 | nixternal | haha |
| 03:29.48 | Nyle | gnome using blasphemer! |
| 03:29.49 | illogic-al | Nyle: you should invite me over sometime ;-) |
| 03:29.53 | nixternal | ubuntard, I will have to use that one |
| 03:29.59 | illogic-al | using gnome right now too. |
| 03:30.07 | illogic-al | typing this from pidgin |
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| 03:30.15 | Nyle | illogic-al: ahh boy |
| 03:30.24 | Jucato | nixternal: hehe new one :P |
| 03:30.24 | troy | nixternal: hahaha |
| 03:30.26 | Nyle | illogic-al: hey i need my cds back |
| 03:30.30 | Nyle | illogic-al: all my tools etc. |
| 03:30.37 | nixternal | I didn't say it, Nyle did, and it is great! |
| 03:30.39 | illogic-al | Jucato: enjoy |
| 03:30.51 | illogic-al | illogic-al: er? |
| 03:31.08 | illogic-al | Nyle: minipe cds? |
| 03:31.12 | Nyle | illogic-al: can you find them, and if not, could you make copies of the tools for me and I'll get them from you |
| 03:31.15 | Nyle | yeh |
| 03:31.18 | Nyle | driver packs |
| 03:31.25 | Nyle | oses |
| 03:31.29 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 03:31.37 | Nyle | you know the usual tools and other things used |
| 03:32.06 | Nyle | oh I forgot my macbook there too |
| 03:32.12 | illogic-al | i can get you the tools. i don't have copies of the oses |
| 03:32.19 | Nyle | illogic-al: ask juan |
| 03:32.22 | illogic-al | Nyle: you have no macbook |
| 03:32.29 | Nyle | sorry powerbook |
| 03:32.32 | Nyle | 3400c |
| 03:32.34 | illogic-al | that powerbook POS is NOT a macbook |
| 03:32.46 | Nyle | hey |
| 03:32.58 | Nyle | shut up :) |
| 03:33.05 | illogic-al | don't you ever dare blaspheme the good name of macbooks by making that egregious error ever again. |
| 03:33.11 | illogic-al | or i'll beat you. |
| 03:33.15 | illogic-al | :-) |
| 03:33.19 | Nyle | yeh word man |
| 03:33.39 | Nyle | hey listen can you have this ready for me in a few days and i'll swing by and pick em up |
| 03:33.53 | illogic-al | so what have you been up to? make it relate to kde in someway so we get back on topic :-) |
| 03:34.24 | Nyle | I use it |
| 03:34.25 | Nyle | ? |
| 03:34.42 | Nyle | illogic-al: actually I am using kubuntu |
| 03:35.03 | illogic-al | i mean what've you been doing since you left the job. |
| 03:35.56 | illogic-al | 8800gt is sold out everywhere btw. that card is awesome. it will be my christmas and birthday gifts to myself. |
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| 03:37.25 | illogic-al | also tried to get kde4 working on os x 10.5. phailure. big time. |
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| 03:38.32 | illogic-al | got it to compile, install, but crashed on running. sucks for me :-( |
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| 03:51.54 | smileaf | illogic-al: time to start debugging! :D |
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| 04:01.01 | texnofobix | anyone know of a KDE based SID player? |
| 04:02.10 | nicio | texnofobix: do u know where i can go to upload a picture to show someone the fastes way? |
| 04:02.25 | texnofobix | flickr? |
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| 04:14.48 | illogic-al | +- |
| 04:14.48 | illogic-al | ++ |
| 04:15.29 | illogic-al | smileaf: i think i know what the problem is. qimageblitz not linking at runtime |
| 04:15.37 | illogic-al | no clue how to fix though. |
| 04:18.42 | smileaf | paths are setup right? |
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| 05:06.33 | SteamMachine | Hi all. |
| 05:06.42 | contrast83 | hello |
| 05:06.57 | SteamMachine | I'm having an issue with k3b - specifically, whenever I place a DVD in the drive, it seems to think that it is a CD. |
| 05:07.04 | SteamMachine | Writable media, no written. |
| 05:07.12 | SteamMachine | *not written |
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| 05:13.16 | marcusU | Konqueror does not seem to work on the register page at facebook. |
| 05:13.39 | marcusU | It always tells me that the text I typed for the distorted image is wrong. |
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| 05:53.16 | plk | so is kde4 usable now? |
| 05:54.15 | mark_alec | depends what your definition of usable is |
| 05:56.44 | plk | does it work? |
| 05:56.52 | plk | or is it crash fest? |
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| 06:24.52 | ubuntux | hallo! |
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| 06:25.45 | ubuntux | ciao! hello |
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| 06:30.07 | kevin_ | have a quick newbie question..is there a way to window the tabs in Konversation? |
| 06:30.32 | kevin_ | sorry, TILE the tabs |
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| 06:44.22 | Gokee2 | I can`t seem to figure out how to align printer heads or clean heads... I know I have done this before. Anyone care to remind me where this is? I am poking through the kde control center and localhost:631 right now without much luck |
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| 06:48.56 | troy | Jucato: Mandriva 2008 - installed smooth as silk - I think I'll stay here for a while, now that I've put konq as the default web browser like it should be :) |
| 06:49.17 | Jucato | troy: haha you really stayed up late just for that one :) |
| 06:49.24 | Jucato | good luck! :D |
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| 06:49.57 | troy | Jucato: well, I was initially having problems with the installer, but then I swapped the disk into another drive and it just worked :) I think my one optical drive is getting a little too flaky these days... |
| 06:50.04 | Jucato | troy: although I'm guuessing a fresh Gutsy install would have been smooth too :) |
| 06:50.24 | troy | Jucato: yeah, but then I'd be stuck with a bunch of bad decisions, like d3lphin :P |
| 06:50.50 | troy | I mean, I know it's just as easy to change as my switch from firefox->konq was here, but still :P |
| 06:51.04 | Jucato | hehehe |
| 06:51.28 | Jucato | ah thank you! you just made me realize something else :P |
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| 06:52.46 | troy | Jucato: it's sometimes bad to introduce something too early, like strigi or dolphin, where showing them off early will only make people cynical about the technology... a whole lot of people at FOSSCamp were complaining about strigi, and how much it sucks (usually when compared to tracker) - I have to keep reminding people that it doesn't have any plugins available that would normally ship with KDE 4 rather than strigi itself *sigh* |
| 06:53.11 | Jucato | troy: I have been doing the same thing for d3lphin |
| 06:53.44 | Jucato | troy: and considering that I myself won't be using Dolphin on KDE 4 (and love Konqueror more), I'm surprised at how much defending I'm doing for Dolphin because of D3lphin :P |
| 06:54.13 | troy | hahaha, well, dolphin in KDE 4 is several ways d3lphin's superior :) |
| 06:54.30 | Jucato | <-------------------------------------> that is the gap :) |
| 06:54.43 | troy | I think you missed a dash :) |
| 06:54.56 | Jucato | yes I know that, and I do believe the *real* Dolphin is very nice. but I'm still a Konqi lover :P |
| 06:55.03 | Jucato | hm.. I think I missed 10 dashes :) |
| 06:55.20 | troy | No, the other thing is that Mandriva has no problems shipping the 'non-free' parts of the distro, like flash or the nvidia drivers - things are just working for me here... |
| 06:55.48 | Jucato | that's more philosophical/ideological than technical though :) |
| 06:55.51 | troy | I mean, they offer a 'pure FOSS' disc, but they offer them side by side :) |
| 06:56.08 | troy | so those with moral or legal objections can simply choose the one without the restrictions... |
| 06:56.11 | Jucato | if *buntu didn't have such a commitment/promise, it would have been fairly easy for us to be like PCLOS.. |
| 06:56.42 | troy | it's kind of nice for mandriva, since they are based on France, where software patents are mostly useless :) So no MP3 decoder problems then :) |
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| 06:56.59 | Jucato | heheh they can't be sued... but users can (maybe?) |
| 06:57.01 | Jucato | :P |
| 06:57.07 | ardchoille | When you change file associations in kde, where is the info kept? I know it's somewhere in ~/.kde/* but I don't know which file/folder. |
| 06:57.30 | troy | Jucato: nah, the worst that can happen is that a country can bad the import of a foreign product that breaks their local patents... |
| 06:57.35 | troy | s/bad/ban |
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| 06:59.18 | troy | ardchoille: I can't seem to find it :) |
| 06:59.18 | Jucato | hm. /me brb :) |
| 06:59.31 | Jucato | probably ~/.kde/share/mimetype? |
| 06:59.35 | troy | ardchoille: perhaps if you enter some weird program name, you can grep for it... |
| 07:00.18 | ardchoille | Jucato: I don't have a ~/.kde/share/mimetype |
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| 07:00.24 | Jucato | mimelnk.. but that's not it |
| 07:00.27 | Jucato | troy: good night |
| 07:00.32 | ardchoille | That was the first place I looked :) |
| 07:00.38 | ardchoille | Good night troy |
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| 07:01.02 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/config/profilerc |
| 07:01.27 | Jucato | ardchoille: ^^^ |
| 07:01.55 | ardchoille | Jucato: Ah hah!, that's it :) |
| 07:02.06 | ardchoille | Thank you. I have been looking for that for months. |
| 07:02.32 | Jucato | a simple grep can go a long way :P |
| 07:02.43 | ardchoille | I was just about to do a grep, lol |
| 07:03.52 | Jucato | of course it works only if you have modified something already :) |
| 07:03.56 | Jucato | anyway... /me is gone |
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| 07:58.15 | ICQnumber | i have read/write permissions for some folder as root, so how can i give this permissions to the user: abc in konqueror if i start it as (kdesu konqueror) |
| 07:59.38 | ICQnumber | then something like properties, permissions, but i donot know what to set up there |
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| 08:11.03 | ganymede | is it true that if i download gmail via pop with kmail, while setting the option to leave message in inbox (instead of archiving messages) then their status will remain? |
| 08:11.08 | ganymede | e.g. whether they are read or unread? |
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| 08:11.28 | ganymede | i have a large number of mails to download but i don't want their read/unread marks to change on the server |
| 08:12.34 | Jucato | ganymede: yes, they will be unchanged (based on my experience) |
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| 08:15.19 | Arafangion | When compiling KDE, what is "KDEHOME"? |
| 08:15.56 | ganymede | Jucato: thanks for the verification |
| 08:16.08 | Arafangion | With KDE4, that is. |
| 08:16.49 | thiago_home | Arafangion: when compiling KDE, it means nothing |
| 08:16.55 | thiago_home | KDEHOME is only used when running KDE |
| 08:17.03 | thiago_home | it defaults to ~/.kde |
| 08:17.13 | Arafangion | And should be set as such? |
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| 08:17.59 | Arafangion | Anyway, thanks. :) |
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| 08:18.47 | Jucato | thiago_home: hi! are you still living in Sao Paulo? I just read about some plane crash there when I woke up this morning. was kinda worried :/ |
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| 08:20.02 | bock | I'm haveing problems with the kde autostart. I want to execute 'evrouter /dev/powermate > /dev/null' when kde starts.. I put it in a bash script into the .kde/Autostar folder, but it seems that the command does not get executed. |
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| 08:34.45 | PhilRod | bock: see the autostart section in the kde faq (topic) |
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| 08:38.36 | Yuyur | KDE slogan “My KDE is fair to play!" is it good? |
| 08:41.19 | antazy2 | hello, in suse i use very useful function: on right mouse click i can browse menu "copy to" and "move to", now i use debian with kde-base, what package i need install to have this function? |
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| 08:46.06 | GNU\colossus | antazy2: that's a konqueror service menu, I don't think there are debian packages for that kind of thing |
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| 08:46.30 | Jucato | actually it isn't just a service menu |
| 08:47.19 | Jucato | antazy2: try installing konq-plugins (from kdeaddons) |
| 08:48.13 | antazy2 | thx |
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| 08:50.15 | Arafangion | Wow, konqueror's nice. :) |
| 08:50.34 | Arafangion | Quite slow with javascript, though. |
| 08:50.46 | Rasi | my konqueror always starts with 4 tabs... and i dont know how to change this |
| 08:50.54 | Arafangion | Hmm, maybe it just the site. (meebo.com) |
| 08:51.00 | Rasi | i closed them all.. saved the profile.. doesnt help |
| 08:52.11 | Jucato | Rasi: when you saved the profile, did you make sure that 1) Save URL's in profile is enabled and 2) you're saving to the correct profile (usually the Web Browsing profile) |
| 08:52.33 | Rasi | well.. its using a profile called "browsing with tabs" |
| 08:52.41 | Rasi | i have never created that profile tho.... |
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| 08:55.03 | Jucato | Tabbed Browsing probably... one of the default Konqueror profiles that KDE ships with by default |
| 08:55.26 | Jucato | and yes, it always opens 4 tabs by default (unless you change that) |
| 08:55.54 | Arafangion | Jucato: Mine doesn't open 4 by default. |
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| 08:56.05 | Jucato | Arafangion: the Tabbed Browsing profile? |
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| 08:56.20 | Arafangion | Jucato: I just started 'konqueror', and observed that it doesn't open four tabs by default. |
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| 08:56.36 | Jucato | Arafangion: I just said, **The Tabbed Browsing profile** |
| 08:56.55 | Arafangion | Jucato: Sorry, I guess I had a different interpretation of 'default'. :) |
| 08:57.01 | Jucato | not "Web Browsing" profile |
| 08:57.12 | Rasi | ah |
| 08:57.14 | Rasi | working now |
| 08:57.18 | Rasi | but i did the same thing before |
| 08:57.19 | Rasi | strange |
| 08:57.20 | Jucato | Arafangion: KDE ships with a number of Konqueror profiles by default |
| 08:57.27 | Rasi | now if only i could get mouse gestures to work |
| 08:57.52 | Jucato | Web Browsing, File Management, Tabbed Browsing, Simple Browser, Midnight Commander, KDE Development |
| 08:58.11 | Jucato | Arafangion: when you launch plain "konqueror", the Web Browsing profile is used by default |
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| 08:58.26 | Arafangion | WHen I close konqueror, sometimes I get a 'crash'. |
| 08:58.35 | Arafangion | Unfortunately I do not have gdb installed. |
| 08:58.39 | Jucato | Rasi: enable them globally first in KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 08:58.46 | Rasi | yea yea |
| 08:58.49 | Rasi | i have done all that |
| 08:58.53 | Rasi | it just doesnt work |
| 08:59.00 | Rasi | global shortcuts DO work tho |
| 08:59.06 | Arafangion | The crash says that it is because it has caught a signal 6 - which makes sense - I just told it to quit! |
| 08:59.06 | Rasi | just not the gestures |
| 08:59.37 | Arafangion | This being kde4, anywya. |
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| 09:00.34 | Rasi | kde4 is fast for you? |
| 09:00.34 | Rasi | wow |
| 09:00.42 | Arafangion | Rasi: Extremely. |
| 09:00.42 | Rasi | here it was much slower than 3.x |
| 09:00.52 | Arafangion | Rasi: Mind you, I'm not running the DE. |
| 09:01.05 | Arafangion | Rasi: Just the applications, such as konqueror. :) It's fast. |
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| 09:18.51 | mistermog | #zenwalk-fr |
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| 09:37.20 | ganymede | hey, is it known that kde will slow down tremendously in downloading email into a folder with around 1500 emails? |
| 09:37.37 | ganymede | i am downloading my pop gmail box, it's downloading 250 messages at atime |
| 09:37.45 | ganymede | it was lightning fast before but now it's slower that 1 per second |
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| 09:40.44 | ganymede | or maybe goolge just capped my speed because i've been downloading about 50 megs from them? |
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| 09:43.05 | Arafangion | Ok, latest svn checkout of konqueror crashes instantly when I check out domain.com.au, and then search for share accommodation. |
| 09:43.24 | Arafangion | Well, it doesn't crash *instantly*, but it does so pretty quickly. |
| 09:43.41 | Arafangion | Using latest qt4, as well. |
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| 09:47.12 | OpenSorce | in my distro ( http://BigCatLinux.com ) I've set up mounted drives to show up on the desktop. I want them to default to the right side of the screen instead of the left. Is this difficult to do? |
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| 10:07.11 | OpenSorce | in my distro ( http://BigCatLinux.com ) I've set up mounted drives to show up on the desktop. I want them to default to the right side of the screen instead of the left. Is this difficult to do? |
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| 10:11.17 | markc | OpenSorce, put them where you want then RMB on desktop -> Icons -> Lock in Place (perhaps also align to grid) ... I've never tried it but it sounds like it could do what you want |
| 10:12.15 | OpenSorce | markc, that works great for permanent media...but not cds jumpdrives etc |
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| 10:16.45 | OpenSorce | markc, actually....it does work.....thanks :-) |
| 10:21.11 | markc | OpenSorce, there is a file called ~/.kde/share/apps/kdesktop/IconPositions which seems to hold all/most icon positions, if you diff before and after inserting a new (say) USB device then it'll be obvious what to tweak for future devices |
| 10:22.11 | OpenSorce | markc, you...are a mind reader....exactly what I was doing.... |
| 10:22.55 | OpenSorce | looks like I'm going to need to alter some code (kode?) to make it default to the right side though..... |
| 10:24.02 | Arafangion | OpenSorce: edok, perhaps, then. ;) (Read right-to-left) |
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| 11:01.57 | nicio | how do i lauch the command to fix a corupt hdd?somthing like chkdsk for xp but on linux |
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| 11:12.16 | Alarm | hello, is there any difference between splash screens and boot-splash screens on kde-look ? |
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| 11:12.52 | Arafangion | Alarm: I'm not a kde user, but I would assume that boot-splash are mainly screens for lilo/grub for actual boot, while splash screens appear while kde itself is loading. |
| 11:13.29 | Alarm | i see. thank you :) |
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| 11:14.00 | goodhabit | Hello. I am searching voip client for KDE> |
| 11:14.05 | goodhabit | Can somebody advice me? |
| 11:14.31 | maki | goodhabit twinkle |
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| 11:14.45 | Arafangion | goodhabit: I /think/ kopete can handle it, as can amsn. |
| 11:14.53 | Arafangion | gaboo: Also ekiga. |
| 11:15.06 | Arafangion | goodhabit: Also ekiga, it's almost the canonical linux solution. |
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| 11:25.20 | goodhabit | Arafangion: Ekiga is under gtk ( |
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| 11:27.36 | Alarm | ok. and how to load Boot-splash screen ? in kcontrol there is only for splash screens. |
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| 11:30.30 | Arafangion | goodhabit: So? |
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| 11:30.50 | goodhabit | Arafangion: I am looking smth integrated in KDE. |
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| 11:31.49 | Sho_ | goodhabit: Twinkle |
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| 11:36.43 | EspadaV8_W | is there a kmail channel? or can i ask questions about it here? |
| 11:37.07 | Sho_ | EspadaV8_W: You can try #kontact (which incorporates KMail), but you can also ask here |
| 11:37.24 | EspadaV8_W | ah, ok, thanks :) |
| 11:37.42 | EspadaV8_W | i'm just trying to set up kmail to connect to an exchange server using imap |
| 11:37.56 | EspadaV8_W | but for some reason it says it can't connect to the host |
| 11:38.09 | EspadaV8_W | which is reachable, i can telnet to it and ping it |
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| 11:52.02 | EspadaV8_W | well, i couldn't get kmail working, so i've installed office 2007 for now |
| 11:52.12 | EspadaV8_W | will have to try and get it working at some other point |
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| 11:57.41 | gryfie_ | Hi. Can anyone tell me, if it's possible to configure kwin that I can aktive AND move a window without changing it's level of the window-stack? |
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| 11:57.59 | gryfie_ | I didn't got myself when configuring it |
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| 11:59.49 | goodhabit | gryfie_: Try to rephrase it please. |
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| 12:02.41 | gryfie_ | Ok.... I want to be able to move a window, that is not on the top, without it opo ups to the top |
| 12:02.46 | gryfie_ | pop ups |
| 12:03.38 | gryfie_ | (if it's possible) |
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| 12:23.29 | maki | is there pakagekit for KDE? |
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| 12:27.18 | goodhabit | maki: kpackage, kuroo for gentoo users. |
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| 12:29.10 | Jucato | he's referring to the new PackageKit project |
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| 12:29.24 | maki | yes |
| 12:29.39 | maki | kpackage is only for rpm & deb |
| 12:29.50 | Jucato | no there's not KDE frontend yet. although a Qt one is in the works afaik |
| 12:29.51 | maki | pakagekit has a lot of backends |
| 12:30.02 | maki | Jucato ok |
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| 12:30.19 | Jucato | packagekit is still in beta afaik |
| 12:30.33 | maki | i know |
| 12:31.00 | maki | i'm just asking about pakagekit in KDE 4.1 |
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| 12:31.31 | Jucato | there isn't even KDE 4.0 yet :) |
| 12:33.00 | Bella-ve | I have a question about K3d |
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| 12:34.27 | Jucato | which isn't a KDE app :) |
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| 13:00.21 | attackdecay | hey, i don't mean to start something that may be the same old tired this vs that... but i'm wondering what kde's got going on for itself |
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| 13:00.27 | attackdecay | vs gnome or xfce |
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| 13:03.05 | attackdecay | sorry, it's def a shit/newb question... just geniunely curious, and the website and other googling doesnt really offer me any actual reasons or pros/cons |
| 13:04.11 | mark_alec | attackdecay: xfce doesn't compete, since it doesn't offer the range of applications |
| 13:04.28 | mark_alec | and gnome vs kde is a down to an individuals preference (try both, choose what is best for you) |
| 13:04.50 | Mange | Generally, KDE apps are more integrated with each other and have more features. GNOME is generally more easy to use and usually have a more "complete" default configuration (e.g. "install, then just use"). XFCE is lightweight and just run GNOME and KDE apps |
| 13:06.04 | Mange | IMO, of course |
| 13:06.10 | attackdecay | hmm |
| 13:06.21 | attackdecay | yeah, i know what you mean... just going to have to try it |
| 13:06.43 | Mange | To me, GNOME looks beautiful, but it's to limiting to me. KDE gives me freedom, and with KDE4 also a beautiful desktop. |
| 13:06.50 | Mange | Yep |
| 13:06.57 | Mange | Best way to get a opinion :-) |
| 13:07.00 | attackdecay | but it seems to me that i can run kde apps on gnome, and vice versa, right? |
| 13:07.08 | attackdecay | and xfce can run both |
| 13:07.11 | Mange | Yes. Bu beware |
| 13:07.13 | Mange | but* |
| 13:07.34 | Mange | Firefox, for example, uses GNOME dialogs, and thay are fugly in KDE |
| 13:07.45 | attackdecay | hmm |
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| 13:08.01 | attackdecay | yeah... gtk engine stuff, themes, mismatch, etc right |
| 13:08.04 | Mange | And when GNOME apps are used in KDE, all KDE features disappear to the program |
| 13:08.12 | Mange | For example hardware browsing |
| 13:08.40 | Mange | Same for KDE apps in GNOME. GNOME have a notification library that KDE apps cannot use (can't come up with a better example) |
| 13:09.00 | Mange | Okay. They can use it, but regularly don't because that would add GNOME deps :-) |
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| 13:09.43 | Mange | Much progress have been made, though. Soon, most of these things should have a standard, making the apps integrate anyway |
| 13:10.24 | attackdecay | that isn't dbus is it? |
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| 13:10.24 | attackdecay | or is dbus somthing else |
| 13:10.43 | Mange | DBUS is how they use the standards, yes. But we need things to answer these DBUS calls |
| 13:11.09 | Mange | Take notifications, again. We need a "Notification server" that Amarok, Firefox, etc. can send their DBUS commands to |
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| 13:12.13 | gryfie_ | just another question: Is there a easy way to run from a root-console a x-(KDE)-application with root-rights ? |
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| 13:12.51 | Mange | gryfie_, Just enter the command inside the terminal |
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| 13:13.25 | Mange | You want to run Konqueror as root? Just enter "konqueror" in your root terminal |
| 13:13.37 | gryfie_ | Mange: Now, I mean, when using an users desktop |
| 13:13.37 | Scott5114 | And if you put and '&' after it it frees the console up so you can use it for other things |
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| 13:14.03 | Mange | You could also do this from the Run dialog; press "More >>" (or similar) and the option "Run as root" should be there |
| 13:14.29 | gryfie_ | oh, i didn't meaed, conmsole (tty), but an xterminal |
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| 13:14.56 | attackdecay | hmm |
| 13:14.57 | gryfie_ | grrr.... i should learn 10-finger-system |
| 13:15.08 | Mange | Wait... You want to run a X-program outside X? |
| 13:15.14 | attackdecay | so many options with this linux |
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| 13:15.32 | gryfie_ | no, on a users console.... changing to root via su |
| 13:15.45 | Mange | Just run the command |
| 13:15.49 | gryfie_ | and then start an x-editor with root-rights.... or konquerer |
| 13:15.51 | Mange | It will inherit the rights |
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| 13:16.16 | gryfie_ | ok, then it may be a problem of the distribution, 'cause it doesn't work |
| 13:16.24 | E_mE | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.36 | Mange | user@localhost:~$ su |
| 13:16.37 | Mange | root@localhost:~# konqueror |
| 13:17.06 | gryfie_ | cannot connect to X server :0 0 |
| 13:17.32 | Mange | gryfie_, Are you sure the terminal is inside X? |
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| 13:17.55 | Thundercloud | gryfie_: Um, run "xhost +" as user |
| 13:18.11 | Mange | E_mE, Could be many things. |
| 13:18.13 | gryfie_ | Mange: Yes, I am ;) |
| 13:18.40 | gryfie_ | As I said, may be the distribution I use |
| 13:18.50 | Mange | Yeah. Which one do you use? |
| 13:18.58 | gryfie_ | GoboLinux |
| 13:19.07 | Mange | Never heard of. :-P |
| 13:19.16 | Mange | But okay. Try this: |
| 13:19.28 | Mange | As user, run "kdesu konqueror" |
| 13:19.39 | Mange | You should get a password prompt for root. |
| 13:20.14 | gryfie_ | ok, that works ok |
| 13:20.21 | gryfie_ | thx |
| 13:20.24 | Mange | :-) |
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| 13:20.36 | Mange | I do wonder why that didn't work, though... X-D |
| 13:20.54 | Mange | Might be something in /etc/profile overwriting something, perhaps |
| 13:20.58 | yunosh | hi, where are translation for kde apps stored if the distribution doen't come with gettext .mo files? |
| 13:20.59 | Mange | It's strange |
| 13:21.05 | gryfie_ | gobolinux uses another filehierarchie, and builds the fhs with links.... just for info ;) |
| 13:22.32 | E_mE | Mange: well when i login via KDM... it accepts and then doesnt even reach the KDE loading desktop screen... need to press Alt+Ctrol+Backspace to then login via console |
| 13:22.37 | E_mE | Mag |
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| 13:22.52 | E_mE | Mange: if i use startx from console it loads KDE |
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| 13:24.32 | Mange | E_mE, Check the Session box in KDM. Change it from "default" or "last" into "KDE <version>" |
| 13:24.35 | Mange | Might work |
| 13:25.36 | E_mE | Mange: tried that will no success |
| 13:25.53 | Mange | I have no idea, then. |
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| 13:26.04 | Mange | The logs might tell yousomething. |
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| 13:26.36 | Mange | I have to leave now, tough. Hopefully someone else will help you. :-) |
| 13:26.40 | Mange | Bye |
| 13:26.48 | E_mE | thanks anyhow |
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| 15:08.26 | michel | does anybody know that does this error message on compiling kdebase (kde4) means? http://phpfi.com/274040 |
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| 15:09.35 | annma | michel: Gentoo? |
| 15:09.36 | Yuyur | Could not find REQUIRED package Blitz |
| 15:09.41 | michel | annma: yes |
| 15:09.43 | Yuyur | michel is it ? |
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| 15:09.56 | Yuyur | did you install kdesupport? |
| 15:09.57 | michel | Yuyur: yes |
| 15:09.58 | annma | is there no dependency management in Gentoo ebuilds then? |
| 15:10.10 | annma | michel: no you did not install kdesupport |
| 15:10.12 | michel | kde-base/qimageblitz-9999 is already installed |
| 15:10.21 | Jucato | michel: you might want to ask in #gentoo-kde about their kde4 ebuilds |
| 15:10.30 | annma | michel: yes ask Gentoo to sort you out |
| 15:10.34 | Yuyur | whats version of blitz? |
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| 15:10.41 | Jucato | hi annma! |
| 15:10.47 | annma | hi Jucato :) |
| 15:11.01 | Jucato | annma: looks like troy is a Mandriva user now as well :) |
| 15:11.10 | bb_ | hello is this support for kde? |
| 15:11.15 | annma | bb_: yes |
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| 15:11.18 | Jucato | bb_: yes |
| 15:11.19 | annma | Jucato: :) |
| 15:11.21 | Jucato | echo echo echo :) |
| 15:11.31 | bb_ | okay..making sure i got the right channel |
| 15:11.35 | bb_ | :) |
| 15:11.41 | yunosh | hi, where are translations for kde apps stored if the app distribution doen't come with gettext .mo files? |
| 15:11.48 | michel | Jucato: ok thx |
| 15:12.07 | annma | yunosh: what do you mean? |
| 15:12.11 | troy | Jucato: there's nothing I could do! the CD launched itself at me, and in order to defend myself I had to lock it in the disc drive... unfortunately, once it was locked in there, it took over my system! |
| 15:12.26 | Jucato | oooh you're awake! :) |
| 15:12.35 | yunosh | annma: what didn't you understand? :) where are the translations in kde apps? |
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| 15:12.58 | annma | they are not in kde apps |
| 15:13.07 | annma | kde apps are in English |
| 15:13.30 | annma | and then KDE ships i18n-<lang> packages |
| 15:13.46 | annma | kde-i18n-<LANG> |
| 15:13.50 | bb_ | can anyone tell me the app for kde..a front end to gzip or un tar something within kde? |
| 15:13.51 | yunosh | that's what i thought, but kde-i18n- only contains the html docs |
| 15:14.01 | yunosh | bb_: ark |
| 15:14.06 | Jucato | bb_: ark |
| 15:14.09 | annma | yunosh: your distro did not package it correctly |
| 15:14.11 | troy | erg! /me needs to lay the smackdown on Riddell :P |
| 15:14.19 | bb_ | thank you guys |
| 15:14.35 | Jucato | troy: good luck :) |
| 15:14.36 | yunosh | annma: sure it did. it's kubuntu and the translations work fine. i just can't find them |
| 15:14.50 | annma | find? |
| 15:14.53 | troy | yunosh: kubuntu puts the translations elsewhere - in language packs or something |
| 15:15.08 | yunosh | troy: ah |
| 15:15.10 | Jucato | troy: we're going to have a devel meeting probably next week. I'll try to bring it up again... see if we can outvote him :) |
| 15:16.40 | annma | yunosh: use dpkg something to find the content of the k18n package maybe |
| 15:17.01 | yunosh | annma: yeah, already looking |
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| 15:17.46 | bb_ | what is a good remote desktop frontend for kde? |
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| 15:18.59 | yunosh | for the records: the package is called language-pack-kde-XX-base and the translations go into /usr/share/locale-langpack/ |
| 15:19.08 | Jucato | bb_: krdc? |
| 15:19.10 | metalfan | where can i deactivate the jumping icon when applications start? |
| 15:19.14 | Alarm | hello, i added 2 different kdm themes (for the login state) . i did install them through the kdm theme manager, but although i check on the "enable" checkbox, and choose a theme, on the next reboot nothing changes and the "enable" checkbox of kdm themes is unchecked again |
| 15:19.26 | bb_ | Jucato: yeah that might be it |
| 15:19.33 | Jucato | metalfan: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback |
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| 15:20.01 | metalfan | thx |
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| 15:20.48 | troy | Jucato: later :P |
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| 15:21.06 | Jucato | bye troy! |
| 15:21.36 | Roey | hey all |
| 15:21.41 | Roey | ah, Troy has left |
| 15:21.46 | Roey | troy: ciao ;) |
| 15:21.49 | Roey | hola Jucato! |
| 15:21.59 | Jucato | hey Roey! :) |
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| 15:22.41 | Alarm | dont get whats wrong with it |
| 15:23.15 | Jucato | Alarm: Kubuntu Gutsy? |
| 15:23.25 | Alarm | debian testing |
| 15:23.30 | Jucato | ah hm... |
| 15:23.38 | Alarm | kde 3.5.7 |
| 15:23.57 | Jucato | ah I think they haven't received the patch yet to make kdmtheme work for the new kdmrc overrides |
| 15:24.13 | Alarm | could be... |
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| 15:24.45 | Alarm | as when i make changes , the apply button doesnt get activated. and after i close the window i am again on the point where i started |
| 15:25.34 | Jucato | Alarm: you might want to check the kdmrc override in /etc/default/kdm.d/ |
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| 15:27.41 | Alarm | neither do i see the directory "/usr/kde/VERSION/share/apps/kdm/themes" for manual installation |
| 15:28.06 | Freakingme | I'm trying to change my background, but no matter how many times I click 'apply' in that settings window/dialog, the old background remains. Anybody any clue on what I'm doing wrong / how to fix this? |
| 15:28.21 | Alarm | hehe, sounds familiar :) |
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| 15:30.23 | Jucato | Alarm: no, afaik, Debian has implemented a kdmrc override. it means that it doesn't make use or modify kdmrc directly. instead it uses some file (in /etc/default/kdm.d/ here in Kubuntu) to control some aspects of KDM |
| 15:31.02 | Roey | interesting |
| 15:31.20 | Jucato | Alarm: you might want to ask in #debian (or over at OFTC) for specifics |
| 15:31.21 | Alarm | i see. i will check for that . thank you :) |
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| 15:31.32 | Alarm | i will do so, thank you for your attention |
| 15:31.51 | Jucato | we had to patch smileaf's kdmtheme too get it working in Kubuntu as well |
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| 15:32.13 | Freakingme | nobody a clue as regards to my question? |
| 15:33.15 | Roey | rami_: heya |
| 15:33.17 | Roey | shem yafe |
| 15:33.27 | Roey | ladod sheli korim rami |
| 15:33.48 | Jucato | O.o |
| 15:33.55 | Jucato | Freakingme: sorry, no idea |
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| 15:45.07 | lastent | hi where can I find some people that uses Quanta? |
| 15:45.28 | Jucato | #quanta ? (not sure) |
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| 15:56.34 | Stenaf | When using konqueror as a file browser, is there any way to reduce the spacing between the icons? I'm using multicolumn view and the icons are way too far apart. |
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| 16:28.32 | JordiGH | If I take a text file and name it "mytext.jpg", then Konqueror will attempt to open it as a jpeg instead of opening a text editor. Is there a way to make Konqueror always check the magic number of a file and never believe extensions? |
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| 16:33.54 | JordiGH | Hm, Gnome's Nautilus issues a warning if you try this trick. Something like "The file says it's jpg, but its contents say it's html." |
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| 16:38.42 | affect | is there a way to make firefox open links without trying to open itself once mode (if i understand it right). its like i got firefox running, click the link somewhere and theres the clock pointer and new minimized window of firefox for ~30 secs every time. however the link opens in the right window |
| 16:38.47 | affect | mode* |
| 16:38.50 | affect | more** |
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| 16:39.03 | affect | that stuff is annoying |
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| 16:44.12 | JordiGH | affect: In kcontrol, kde components -> web browser, what do you have? |
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| 16:44.21 | JordiGH | affect: I have iceweasel -new-tab |
| 16:44.26 | JordiGH | (and yes, I'm using Debian) |
| 16:44.42 | affect | hmm got mozilla-firefox |
| 16:44.43 | Kyral_Laptop | Its okay, we have all sinned before *DUCK!* |
| 16:45.00 | JordiGH | affect: But do you have the -new-tab option? |
| 16:45.27 | JordiGH | Kyral_Laptop: Do you confess then, my son, that you do not follow the one true path of the red swirl of purity? |
| 16:45.35 | affect | nope. added it now and it says "sorry could not find program mozilla-firefox" then |
| 16:45.47 | Kyral_Laptop | JordiGH: I follow it, on my server ;P |
| 16:46.22 | JordiGH | affect: Hm, really? |
| 16:46.29 | affect | yeah |
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| 16:46.44 | JordiGH | How about just "firefox -new-tab"? |
| 16:47.40 | affect | yeah, the clock appears and disappears right away |
| 16:47.42 | affect | thanks |
| 16:47.47 | JordiGH | np |
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| 16:51.18 | drbollokovski | anyone know why tork would crash my desktop every time i start it? |
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| 16:55.33 | fir3__ | hi |
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| 16:59.19 | eSa| | what is the most common cause for a Bus Error? I'm using Krita with (debian) Kde 3.5.8 |
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| 17:00.00 | ann_cook | Bus? |
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| 17:02.35 | fir3__ | sry wrong terminal |
| 17:03.05 | fir3__ | i've got a quite weird problem with konqueror |
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| 17:04.12 | fir3__ | it often freezes when browsing websites and also when browsing files, but there are no errors in terminal |
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| 17:05.47 | downs | hi, when using KDE powertop gives me ridiculously large wakeup counts for interrupt: acpi |
| 17:05.49 | metalfan | fir3__: maybe a hardware issue |
| 17:06.03 | downs | the same issue doesn't happen when logging in over the console |
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| 17:06.14 | downs | ksysguard and the sysguard applet are closed. |
| 17:06.33 | downs | I can't figure this out. |
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| 17:06.47 | fir3__ | metalfan: what kind of hardware issue could that be? it happens on my laptop and on my desktop |
| 17:07.33 | Kyral_Laptop | downs: Do you have anything like KThinkbat or any other Power monitors running? |
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| 17:07.33 | metalfan | heat, bad ram... |
| 17:07.33 | metalfan | but just a shot in the blue |
| 17:07.33 | downs | no, and I just closed the kde standard battery applet. |
| 17:07.41 | downs | still at ~500 wakeups per sec |
| 17:07.47 | downs | it's a toshiba laptop running kde3.5 on gentoo |
| 17:07.52 | downs | 2.6.22-suspend2. |
| 17:07.57 | downs | (dualcore) |
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| 17:09.03 | Kyral_Laptop | 500 is kinda good dude |
| 17:09.08 | Kyral_Laptop | for running the GUI |
| 17:09.16 | downs | 500 for the acpi interrupt? |
| 17:09.20 | Kyral_Laptop | oh |
| 17:09.28 | Kyral_Laptop | I thought you meant total |
| 17:09.34 | downs | <downs> hi, when using KDE powertop gives me ridiculously large wakeup counts for interrupt: acpi |
| 17:09.41 | downs | ^^ |
| 17:10.09 | Kyral_Laptop | lol |
| 17:10.13 | downs | too bad it's not possible to count interrupts per-process in /proc |
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| 17:13.14 | Digital_Pioneer | What's the version of the latest KDE 4 beta? |
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| 17:16.49 | Digital_Pioneer | 3.95? |
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| 17:18.55 | eSa| | ann_cook, Bus as Ball Upper Space in 'Bus Error' message |
| 17:19.39 | eSa| | more precisely I can choose the type of document to work with in the startup dialog, then I get the mentioned error |
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| 17:23.02 | syli725 | I can't find "shutdown" and "reboot" in my kde menu --> Leave. how to enable them? why is not there by default? insecure? |
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| 17:23.37 | Digital_Pioneer | syli725: I think that happens when you don't have perms to shutdown/reboot. Not sure how to get them. :( |
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| 17:23.51 | MinceR | maybe you didn't start it from a display manager or that display manager doesn't support it or it's disabled |
| 17:24.39 | syli725 | Digital_Pioneer, thanks for your answer. let me think. |
| 17:24.59 | syli725 | MinceR, what is display manager? |
| 17:25.34 | Digital_Pioneer | syli725: KDM, GDM, XDM, Entrance, etc. |
| 17:26.04 | Digital_Pioneer | syli725: It's what you actually login at before starting KDE, GNOME, etc. |
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| 17:26.06 | syli725 | Digital_Pioneer, I thought KDM and GDM are desktop manager, but not display manager. |
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| 17:26.22 | Digital_Pioneer | Meh, same thing AFAIK. |
| 17:26.48 | syli725 | Digital_Pioneer, before logging in, I have shutdown option. only KDE doesn't have it. |
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| 17:27.19 | Digital_Pioneer | syli725: I saw that in XFce once. I think it's a perm issue, but that's just a guess. |
| 17:27.38 | syli725 | Digital_Pioneer, thanks. Let me try to find it out in kcontrol. |
| 17:27.52 | Digital_Pioneer | syli725: If all else fails, you can use KMenuEdit and put a button in for `shutdown -h now` |
| 17:28.13 | syli725 | Digital_Pioneer, thanks. :) |
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| 17:28.27 | syli725 | Digital_Pioneer, I can simply type it in a terminal. hehe. |
| 17:28.34 | Digital_Pioneer | syli725: That you can. :) |
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| 17:37.54 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 17:38.13 | Kebianizao | is it possible to filter konqueror view using wildcards like *diff* ? |
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| 17:39.05 | Sho_ | Kebianizao: Yes. Just add it to the end of the location in the location bar. |
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| 17:39.33 | Sho_ | i.e. /path/to/foo/*diff* |
| 17:39.35 | Kebianizao | Sho_: great |
| 17:39.43 | Kebianizao | you and konqui rocks :D |
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| 17:40.18 | Sho_ | One can also add a dedicated filter field to the toolbar, if the "Directory Filter Plugin" extension is loaded |
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| 17:40.58 | Kebianizao | Sho_: that extension is already loaded, but son't know how to use it |
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| 17:43.58 | Jejem | shadok_ !!! :D |
| 17:44.10 | shadok_ | hey ! |
| 17:44.10 | Jejem | lol : |
| 17:44.14 | Jejem | :DDDD |
| 17:44.18 | Jejem_ | :D |
| 17:44.42 | Jejem_ | ann_cook :D |
| 17:45.43 | lastent | hi, does anyone knows how to connect to an ftp file using kate? |
| 17:46.04 | Kebianizao | lastent: if you mean open a file: ftp://ftp.server.com/file |
| 17:46.55 | lastent | Kebianizao, yes |
| 17:47.11 | MilesAway | you might have to out user@server.com |
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| 17:52.53 | iCEifer | how can I have konqueror remember the unique view for each folder (tree, icon, etc)? |
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| 17:53.44 | iCEifer | it seems that when I pick one view it sticks with it for all sub dirs and always ends up going back to icon view |
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| 18:12.47 | justponi | slt |
| 18:12.49 | justponi | tou le monde |
| 18:12.58 | Kebianizao | bye and thanks again |
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| 18:13.06 | justponi | french?? |
| 18:13.13 | justponi | sombody speak fench? |
| 18:13.25 | gaboo | justponi: oui |
| 18:13.35 | EnigmuS | oui |
| 18:13.40 | justponi | est ce que qq'un peut m'aider svp |
| 18:13.43 | justponi | j'ai un ti probleme |
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| 18:15.02 | justponi | c'est un coin de tchate en faite ou alors un coin pour aider ceux qui ont qq probleme avec linus? |
| 18:15.04 | justponi | linux |
| 18:15.04 | justponi | ? |
| 18:15.11 | gaboo | les deux |
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| 18:15.23 | justponi | ok merci |
| 18:15.26 | gaboo | tu as aussi #kde-fr pour les francophone |
| 18:15.38 | justponi | gaboo tu sais me donner un cout de main ou pas? |
| 18:15.42 | justponi | pcq j'ai un probleme |
| 18:16.15 | justponi | en fait j'arrive plus a me conecté avec mon utilistateur normal je suis obligé de me contécté en tant que root |
| 18:16.20 | gaboo | justponi: pose ta question |
| 18:16.40 | gaboo | justponi: quel distribution, quel message as tu ? |
| 18:16.44 | gaboo | quelle* |
| 18:16.48 | justponi | fedora |
| 18:16.50 | justponi | 7 |
| 18:16.56 | justponi | attend je revien |
| 18:16.59 | justponi | pour te dire le message |
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| 18:19.44 | justponi | il me dit que je me sui conecté moin de 10 sec et que il y a peut etre un probleme dans le systeme |
| 18:19.51 | justponi | ou que je n'ai pas asser d'espace |
| 18:19.55 | justponi | de disque |
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| 18:19.59 | justponi | mais c'es pas ca |
| 18:19.59 | gaboo | justponi: sur #fedora-fr ils auront plus d'info pour toi, à priori ce n'est pas un problème relatif à kde |
| 18:20.08 | justponi | non en faite |
| 18:20.09 | gaboo | je n'utilise pas fedora |
| 18:20.11 | justponi | j'ai gnome |
| 18:20.16 | justponi | jai pas kde |
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| 18:20.26 | gaboo | justponi: qu'est ce que tu fais ici alors ? |
| 18:20.32 | justponi | lol |
| 18:20.35 | gaboo | :) |
| 18:20.43 | justponi | bein j'ai telechargé l'interface de kde avant |
| 18:20.48 | justponi | et maintnant gnom |
| 18:20.59 | justponi | mais j'ai qq programme de kde qui sont rester |
| 18:21.17 | justponi | tu a tjrs des programme qui reste |
| 18:21.18 | gaboo | dans tous les cas, ce n'est pas un problème de bureau, mais de système. va sur le canal de ta distrib |
| 18:21.21 | gaboo | oui |
| 18:21.31 | justponi | ok merci gaboo |
| 18:21.37 | justponi | je vais faire ca |
| 18:21.43 | gaboo | bon courage |
| 18:21.46 | justponi | et je pourrai te demandé un autre |
| 18:21.49 | justponi | truc |
| 18:21.50 | justponi | stp |
| 18:21.54 | justponi | si ca te dérange pas trop |
| 18:21.54 | justponi | ? |
| 18:22.04 | gaboo | oui |
| 18:22.32 | justponi | en faite j'ai le son |
| 18:22.33 | justponi | et tou |
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| 18:22.40 | justponi | ca marche j'entend les signal sonore |
| 18:22.49 | justponi | mais quand je veux ecouté de la muzique ca marche |
| 18:22.50 | justponi | pas |
| 18:22.58 | justponi | pourtant j'ai telechargé mplayer |
| 18:23.00 | justponi | et tou |
| 18:23.04 | justponi | avant ca marchai |
| 18:23.05 | justponi | et maintnat |
| 18:23.06 | justponi | plus |
| 18:23.13 | justponi | je vai te montré le message d'erreur |
| 18:23.19 | gaboo | encore une fois, faut voir avec des personnes qui connaissent fedora. |
| 18:23.44 | justponi | ok merci quand meme |
| 18:23.57 | justponi | et par curiosité je peux savoire quel distribution tu utilise toi? |
| 18:24.20 | gaboo | gentoo, kubuntu |
| 18:24.35 | justponi | ok |
| 18:24.36 | justponi | merci |
| 18:25.01 | gaboo | de rien |
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| 18:29.56 | profoX` | okay this is _really_ annoying.. in konqueror 3.5.8 I have an ftp server and I log in with the username root%40debianbox.be but konqueror always renames it to root%40d...box.be which makes it impossible to log in, unless I change it in the URL manually every time.. |
| 18:30.00 | profoX` | does anyone know why this happens |
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| 18:35.18 | bfrog | whats a |
| 18:35.21 | bfrog | %40 ? |
| 18:36.39 | bfrog | is that supposed to be the @ symbol perhaps? |
| 18:37.03 | profoX` | bfrog: yes |
| 18:37.11 | profoX` | bfrog: it's a stupid limitation from my hosting provider :) |
| 18:37.22 | bfrog | why don't you just use the @ symbol then... |
| 18:37.36 | profoX` | bfrog: I did, but it automatically converts that to %40, which is fine |
| 18:37.39 | profoX` | because that works |
| 18:37.48 | JordiGH | Is that a hex code? |
| 18:37.49 | profoX` | the problem is that some part of the username gets replaced by dots |
| 18:37.56 | profoX` | JordiGH: yes, it's url escaped |
| 18:38.25 | profoX` | JordiGH: but it's not the main cause of the problem, root%40debianbox.be works, but root%40d...box.be doesn't and konqueror always shortens the loginname to that |
| 18:38.25 | bfrog | could just do ftp://@mybox.com |
| 18:38.48 | bfrog | and enter it in the dialog maybe? |
| 18:39.10 | bfrog | I don't really understand the problem... us the username that whole thing, with the @ symbol in there? |
| 18:39.21 | profoX` | bfrog: yep.. |
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| 18:39.28 | bfrog | well thats just stupid then |
| 18:39.28 | profoX` | kinda scary but that's the way it is |
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| 18:39.46 | profoX` | bfrog: hey man complain to my hosting provider.. anyway.. konqueror 3.5.7 didnt complain about it |
| 18:40.11 | profoX` | bfrog: the dialog trick works |
| 18:40.20 | profoX` | it's a good enough workaround |
| 18:40.22 | profoX` | for now atleast |
| 18:40.27 | profoX` | i'll check if its a known bug |
| 18:41.00 | profoX` | (thanks for the hint)) |
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| 18:49.49 | sabgenton | does anyone have problems with kates buttons (back forward save undo etc) disapering? |
| 18:49.55 | sabgenton | each time i click on a button the start disapearing or changing order |
| 18:50.02 | sabgenton | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:56.28 | kant_ | guys, there's a konsole session automatically opening when i boot. What do I have to delete? |
| 18:57.01 | sk84pr1d3 | help! i changed my theme to kde classic and i want to change it back to sabayon theme |
| 18:57.11 | JordiGH | -quit |
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| 18:58.59 | annma | kant_: did you try reboot with konsole closed? |
| 18:59.09 | annma | sk84pr1d3: #sabayopn |
| 18:59.11 | annma | sk84pr1d3: #sabayopn |
| 18:59.15 | annma | sk84pr1d3: #sabayon |
| 18:59.27 | sabgenton | lol |
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| 18:59.42 | kant_ | annma: i'll try |
| 18:59.48 | annma | kant_: ok |
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| 19:00.10 | kant_ | annma: usually i do "poweroff" from konsole .. does that affect this behavior ? |
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| 19:00.40 | annma | kant_: if you want no konsole at start you'd better close konsole |
| 19:00.54 | annma | and check in KControl what is your session restore set to |
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| 19:01.04 | kant_ | annma: thanks |
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| 19:01.36 | Digital_Pioneer | What all can I do with strigi in KDE 3? I'm trying to install the applet, but it won't compile... :( Says strigi isn't installed, but it is. |
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| 19:02.23 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: strigi? |
| 19:02.34 | annma | where do you get the code for kde3? |
| 19:03.04 | Digital_Pioneer | What clients are there for it? KDE 3.5.8, strigi 0.5.7, ArchLinux (Core Dump) |
| 19:03.40 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: Yeah, strigi. Get KDE code from http://www.kde.org/ |
| 19:03.51 | annma | where in kde.org??? |
| 19:04.02 | Digital_Pioneer | Downloads |
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| 19:04.11 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: point me to the EXACT url |
| 19:04.19 | annma | EXACT url to strigi |
| 19:04.30 | annma | not some vague www.kde.org |
| 19:04.40 | Digital_Pioneer | URL to strigi? |
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| 19:04.51 | Digital_Pioneer | You want KDE or strigi? |
| 19:04.59 | annma | yes, where do you get this strigi from? |
| 19:05.05 | annma | STRIGI |
| 19:05.17 | sabgenton | annma: some distros pkgmangement can fetch the source for u |
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| 19:05.20 | annma | where do you get the strigi code fro kde3 |
| 19:05.38 | Digital_Pioneer | http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/strigi-0.5.7.tar.bz2 |
| 19:05.40 | annma | sabgenton: yes but I want to know where it fetches it |
| 19:06.30 | annma | ok |
| 19:06.38 | annma | sabgenton: I want to be sure it is compatible |
| 19:06.44 | nicio | Sean Kingston - Me Love.mp3 |
| 19:06.47 | annma | so Digital_Pioneer |
| 19:06.53 | nicio | o.O |
| 19:06.56 | annma | paste the error in a pastebin please |
| 19:07.04 | nicio | sorry i paste the wrong thing |
| 19:07.07 | nicio | lol |
| 19:07.09 | nicio | bye |
| 19:07.19 | Digital_Pioneer | :\ |
| 19:07.41 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: paste the compile error in pastebin please |
| 19:07.59 | Digital_Pioneer | Not a compile error. Cmake error. |
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| 19:08.24 | annma | same |
| 19:08.32 | annma | paste it in pastebin please |
| 19:08.38 | annma | what backend do yo have? |
| 19:08.42 | Digital_Pioneer | http://pastebin.ca/762522 |
| 19:08.54 | Digital_Pioneer | Backend? |
| 19:08.56 | Digital_Pioneer | To what? |
| 19:09.20 | annma | strigi |
| 19:09.31 | Digital_Pioneer | I thought strigi was the backend? |
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| 19:09.56 | annma | Clucene |
| 19:09.56 | Digital_Pioneer | What backends does it use? |
| 19:10.01 | PeterFA | I lost my desktop switcheroo that goes on the taskbar. I tried to add it back via right-click and friends but I can't find the applet to add. |
| 19:10.02 | Digital_Pioneer | Ohhh, yeah. Clucene. |
| 19:10.05 | annma | is the fastest |
| 19:10.11 | Digital_Pioneer | That's it. |
| 19:10.17 | PeterFA | I just did updates recently and I'm running the latest KDE 3.5. |
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| 19:10.34 | Digital_Pioneer | PeterFA: Add the Desktop Pager applet. |
| 19:11.04 | bb_ | question: i have a few applications on my gentoo system. I am running kde. example package kismet. How do I get kismet to show up under my program list. |
| 19:11.17 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: you got this strigiapplet code, right? |
| 19:11.25 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: now please, read the README |
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| 19:12.16 | PeterFA | Digital_Pioneer, "The Desktop Preview & Pager applet could not be loaded. Please check your installation." |
| 19:12.37 | Digital_Pioneer | PeterFA: Meh. You're in 3.5.8? |
| 19:12.42 | PeterFA | Digital_Pioneer, yes. |
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| 19:13.01 | Digital_Pioneer | Reinstall KDE? :P |
| 19:13.14 | PeterFA | Digital_Pioneer, nope, I just check... I'm in 3.5.7 ^_^ |
| 19:13.15 | Beenie | If I right click an icon under my application list, and click edit..nothing happens |
| 19:13.32 | PeterFA | Digital_Pioneer, brb... |
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| 19:13.54 | Digital_Pioneer | Beenie: kmenuedit? |
| 19:14.36 | Beenie | Digital_Pioneer, is that what I need? |
| 19:14.52 | Digital_Pioneer | Beenie: If you're looking to edit items in the K Menu, yes. |
| 19:15.15 | Beenie | Digital_Pioneer, got ya! is that how I can add icons for certain apps too? |
| 19:15.32 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: README says nothing very useful. I just checked out SVN but it can't find strigi either. |
| 19:15.40 | annma | no? |
| 19:15.49 | Digital_Pioneer | Beenie: Yeah, you can set them in kmenuedit. |
| 19:15.54 | annma | README says strigi must be installed, the applet is only a GUI frontend |
| 19:16.01 | Beenie | Digital_Pioneer, awesome! Thanks! :) |
| 19:16.01 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: ^^ |
| 19:16.09 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: so please install strigi |
| 19:16.23 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: Already did. |
| 19:16.42 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: How can I specify strigi's dirs to cmake? |
| 19:16.55 | annma | where is your strigi then? |
| 19:17.00 | sabgenton | annma: heres one |
| 19:17.04 | sabgenton | http://kde-mirror.freenux.org/stable/latest/src/ |
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| 19:17.14 | annma | sabgenton: lol |
| 19:17.27 | annma | sabgenton: I did not ask in general, I asked specifically for Digital_Pioneer |
| 19:17.40 | annma | I know mirrors for kde, thanks |
| 19:17.41 | sabgenton | ok your not that noob |
| 19:17.43 | sabgenton | :P |
| 19:17.48 | annma | I am a KDE developer |
| 19:17.57 | annma | not very noob, no |
| 19:18.16 | sabgenton | well the last guy said www.kde.org |
| 19:18.17 | sabgenton | :P |
| 19:18.19 | annma | I asked because some users try to build KDe 4 stuff on KDE 3 |
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| 19:18.55 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: I built my strigi from AUR. I got the strigiclient from the aforementioned URL, and now from SVN in README. |
| 19:19.04 | annma | AUR? |
| 19:19.19 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: Arch User Repository. Place to get packages for ArchLinux. |
| 19:19.33 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: I asked you where strigi is installed |
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| 19:19.41 | annma | not where you got it from |
| 19:19.46 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: /opt/kde |
| 19:19.48 | annma | can you answer precisely |
| 19:20.08 | annma | so you have a build dir for your strigiapplet |
| 19:20.19 | annma | look at the CMakeCache.txt file |
| 19:20.28 | annma | see where it looks for strigi |
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| 19:22.27 | sabgenton | annma: hey have you ever had kate's buttons go disapearing on you |
| 19:22.36 | sabgenton | back foward undo save etc |
| 19:22.40 | annma | never and I use Kate all day long |
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| 19:22.53 | annma | what buttons? toolbars ones? |
| 19:23.11 | annma | so a toolbar disappeared? |
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| 19:23.18 | sabgenton | back foward save undo etc |
| 19:23.27 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: CMakeCache.txt simply says it can't find them, but I seem to be able to manually insert the paths there. |
| 19:23.35 | annma | not good |
| 19:23.43 | sabgenton | yeah toolbar |
| 19:23.44 | annma | how do you run cmake? |
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| 19:23.46 | sabgenton | i gues |
| 19:23.48 | sabgenton | yeah |
| 19:23.58 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: how do you run cmake? |
| 19:24.22 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: cmake .. from the build dir. |
| 19:24.31 | sabgenton | annma: not the toolbars the buttons on the toolbar slowly disapear |
| 19:24.46 | annma | the README provides flags Digital_Pioneer |
| 19:24.59 | sabgenton | untill i close kate and start it again |
| 19:25.00 | annma | sabgenton: and only in Kate? |
| 19:25.05 | sabgenton | then they all come back |
| 19:25.09 | annma | cool then |
| 19:25.19 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: Those flags don't specify strigi's location. |
| 19:25.30 | annma | no? |
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| 19:26.09 | PeterFA | What's the command to switch desktops? |
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| 19:26.21 | Beenie | question: how can I run a command in kde, that will open up a terminal and open a app in a terminal? does that make sense? |
| 19:26.23 | PeterFA | I don't have my pager running and it won't work due to botched install I'm working on. |
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| 19:27.11 | sabgenton | annma: just try kwrite |
| 19:27.13 | sabgenton | its fine |
| 19:27.13 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: if strigi is installed in the same location than kde3 and is not found that means it is not installed properly |
| 19:27.15 | sabgenton | only kate |
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| 19:27.23 | sabgenton | tryed* |
| 19:27.26 | annma | sabgenton: no idea, never saw that |
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| 19:27.40 | Kenny3 | how can i use kde software under windows? |
| 19:27.42 | Beenie | or is that possible?\ |
| 19:27.44 | Digital_Pioneer | annma: Then how do you recommend I install it? |
| 19:27.56 | Rictoo | You know, KDE3 was too slow on this computer. When I would open a folder for example it would take around 5 seconds to open |
| 19:27.58 | annma | Digital_Pioneer: get it from svn |
| 19:27.59 | Rictoo | is KDE4 faster? |
| 19:28.23 | annma | Kenny3: kde apps on windows are beta only, see windows.kde.org |
| 19:28.45 | annma | Rictoo: yes but if kde3 is slow on your machine, I guess your machine is not fast |
| 19:29.11 | annma | kde4 is faster to start but then it's demanding on graphics |
| 19:29.12 | Rictoo | I have a 1.8ghz Celeron Northwood |
| 19:29.15 | Rictoo | 512mb of ram |
| 19:29.16 | annma | ah yeah |
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| 19:29.19 | annma | well |
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| 19:29.33 | Rictoo | and I have a 64mb build-in gpu, annma |
| 19:29.43 | annma | gpu? |
| 19:29.49 | Rictoo | graphics processing unit |
| 19:29.54 | annma | ah yes |
| 19:29.57 | annma | old stuff |
| 19:30.06 | Rictoo | but would kde4 be okay on this box/ |
| 19:30.10 | annma | no |
| 19:30.12 | Digital_Pioneer | Since when is a GPU old stuff? LOL |
| 19:30.13 | Rictoo | :| |
| 19:30.27 | sabgenton | annma: ok actualy it only happens when i press back and forward |
| 19:30.28 | annma | is windows fast? |
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| 19:30.33 | sabgenton | unless its spose to do that |
| 19:30.34 | annma | surely not |
| 19:30.37 | Rictoo | annma: What part of my machine would not be suitable for KDE4? |
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| 19:30.50 | Digital_Pioneer | Is windoze fast on _anything?_ :P |
| 19:30.52 | annma | Rictoo: if it is slow with kde3 it'll be slow with kde4 |
| 19:31.00 | annma | we don't go backward |
| 19:31.05 | Rictoo | but I heard kde4 was faster..? |
| 19:31.07 | annma | kwin has composiiting for exa |
| 19:31.14 | annma | at start! |
| 19:31.14 | sabgenton | and when i get back to the document im on in the session the buttons are still gone |
| 19:31.19 | annma | runnning stuff is another matter |
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| 19:31.39 | sabgenton | so its not just display diferent for difrent docs |
| 19:31.39 | annma | every OS is slow on such a machine Rictoo except light stuff |
| 19:31.50 | sabgenton | oh well |
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| 19:32.02 | annma | sabgenton: look at bugs.kde.org |
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| 19:32.20 | sabgenton | annma: do you customies your toolbar ? |
| 19:32.23 | annma | never |
| 19:32.28 | sabgenton | add butons move them etc |
| 19:32.30 | sabgenton | hmm |
| 19:32.43 | sabgenton | i move the save as button to the end |
| 19:32.44 | annma | sabgenton: I don't have time to customize and I often reset my settings to test stuff |
| 19:32.54 | sabgenton | maybe thats where it all started |
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| 19:33.27 | sabgenton | I just moved the save as button the the end to keep them apart |
| 19:33.31 | sabgenton | save and save as |
| 19:33.33 | sabgenton | :( |
| 19:33.35 | sabgenton | hehe |
| 19:33.47 | Digital_Pioneer | I'm running a 1.8GHz Celery, with 768MB RAM or so, it's pretty fast. |
| 19:33.59 | annma | celeron has never been fast |
| 19:34.13 | annma | but yes, not sure how this guy installed |
| 19:34.14 | Digital_Pioneer | Got a 3GHz Athlon 64 W/ 2 gigs RAM coming though, that should be a little faster. :D |
| 19:34.43 | sabgenton | annma: whats the best way to reset the toolbar |
| 19:35.07 | sabgenton | if i just delete the u.kate folder or somthing |
| 19:35.13 | annma | right-click on it, configure toolbar -> defaults |
| 19:35.27 | annma | never delete anything |
| 19:35.42 | sabgenton | why not |
| 19:35.45 | annma | when I say I reset my settings it's because I am a developer on a development machine |
| 19:35.48 | sabgenton | won't it just recreate |
| 19:35.55 | annma | you risk losing stuff |
| 19:36.01 | annma | deleting is never smart |
| 19:36.05 | sabgenton | meh only pofiles |
| 19:36.07 | annma | backing up is smart |
| 19:36.23 | Digital_Pioneer | sabgenton: Check the topic. :) Don't delete ~/.kde |
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| 19:36.38 | sabgenton | I'm happey fildling with that part of my machine |
| 19:36.58 | sabgenton | only .kate or whatever thou |
| 19:37.04 | sabgenton | warning noted |
| 19:37.36 | sabgenton | i should probably make another acount actually |
| 19:37.59 | sabgenton | to experment |
| 19:38.06 | sabgenton | ok well thanks |
| 19:38.13 | Digital_Pioneer | If you feel like starting over, maybe move ~/.kde to ~/.kdeold but probably shouldn't delete it unless you're absolutely certain. |
| 19:38.28 | sabgenton | yeah there you go |
| 19:38.55 | annma | yes making another account is the way to go! |
| 19:39.07 | sabgenton | mm |
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| 19:39.09 | annma | you'll see then if it's local (your settings) |
| 19:39.19 | sabgenton | mm |
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| 19:40.50 | Digital_Pioneer | That's how you do it, but if you ever use DreamLinux or the like, you're in for a lot of trouble. |
| 19:40.58 | KRF | kuser? |
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| 19:41.58 | Digital_Pioneer | KRF: Never seen that before. :P |
| 19:42.14 | KRF | it's sweet |
| 19:42.47 | Digital_Pioneer | Yes, it is.. :) |
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| 19:45.45 | affect | oh come on!! why does kde shutdown in some cases when i press alt+ctrl+k |
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| 19:45.53 | affect | not too often but that really annoys |
| 19:46.18 | annma | affect: look in KControl in the shortcuts |
| 19:47.30 | affect | well alt+ctrl+k is for layout switching and it does switch the layouts. but sometimes it kills kde as alt+ctfl+backspace does |
| 19:47.37 | affect | no idea why |
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| 19:49.15 | Bille_home | anyone speak italian? bioszoe has a kmail problem that i can't understand |
| 19:49.17 | annma | maybe when your layout changes |
| 19:49.23 | annma | and the K becomes something else |
| 19:49.27 | annma | affect: ^^ |
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| 19:49.38 | Roey | robotangel: nice nick |
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| 19:50.11 | robotangel | hmm, okay ;) |
| 19:50.25 | MinceR | what does a "no entry" icon as a favicon in Akregator mean? is the update interval too small? |
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| 19:50.39 | affect | annma, then it'd happen every time the layout is changed but it happens randomly. sometimes the whole day its ok sometimes not |
| 19:50.48 | affect | and that really annoys |
| 19:50.57 | annma | hmmm |
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| 19:52.44 | hunger | Stupid question: What is the "Kontonummer" of kde eV? Got the one from HP seems to be wrong:-( |
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| 19:58.30 | PeterFA | hunger, there are no stupid questions... only stupid people. |
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| 20:02.56 | luislo | guys, I was just asking a question in the suse channels, and they banned me because they didn't like my question, and it WASN'T somethink like linux sucks or so... |
| 20:02.56 | luislo | how can I contact the staff? |
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| 20:02.59 | Bille_home | luislo: what was the question? |
| 20:03.04 | luislo | it was... |
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| 20:03.53 | bsdfox__ | is there a way to save say 5 tabs in konsole and have them all reopen and run a command when I open it? (I use public keys for ssh and I'd like to set up a bookmark or something to login to my 5 servers and have the tabs named and such) |
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| 20:04.22 | luislo | Bille_home: and it was in the opensuse-chat, where you are supposedly allowed to bring such topics: "don't you think that surfing the web underlinux could be a pain with all these websites with flash applications and no decent flash dirver for linux" |
| 20:04.50 | PeterFA | luislo, /stats p |
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| 20:05.40 | luislo | what's the p for? p=suse, for example? |
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| 20:05.59 | smileaf | bsdfox__: I see you can save bookmarks in konsole, but I've never used them before |
| 20:06.12 | luislo | PeterFA, what's that command for? |
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| 20:06.28 | Sho_ | luislo: The command PeterFA gave you should output a list of Freenode staffers, who you can then ask to moderate your dispute with the SUSE channel's operators |
| 20:06.32 | smileaf | bsdfox__: might be possible to set bookmarks, and save a session |
| 20:06.43 | bsdfox__ | smileaf: yeah bookmarks just save the $PWD |
| 20:06.46 | PeterFA | luislo, that will tell you all the staffers who decided to reveal that they are staffers. |
| 20:07.04 | PeterFA | luislo, it's not thorough. |
| 20:07.09 | luislo | oh I see PeterFA, it returns 0 as an aswer though... |
| 20:07.20 | PeterFA | luislo, that's because staffers are shy. |
| 20:07.25 | luislo | haha |
| 20:07.50 | pinotree | luislo: please go to #freenode and solve there your problems |
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| 20:08.02 | pinotree | #kde is NOT the channel for such issues, really |
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| 20:09.24 | jaf1230 | hey, I'm having an issue, and I don't know if it's with KDE or compiz-fusion or what. When I hit shift, ctrl, or alt, the window blurs slightly for a split second. |
| 20:09.43 | pinotree | jaf1230: #compiz-fusion of course |
| 20:10.01 | jaf1230 | thanks |
| 20:10.09 | jaf1230 | wasn't sure if it was KDE or compiz. |
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| 20:18.25 | Rasi | hmm |
| 20:18.30 | Rasi | i am in openbox now |
| 20:18.33 | Rasi | and started kicker |
| 20:18.40 | Rasi | but its ignoring my transparency settings |
| 20:18.48 | Rasi | does this only work with kwin? |
| 20:19.08 | pinotree | or with kdesktop, don't remember |
| 20:22.13 | Rasi | ah yea |
| 20:22.18 | Rasi | kdesktop does the trick |
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| 20:45.50 | mikeos | hi, akregator freezes after start, all other KDE apps work fine (KDE 3.5.8, Qt 3.3.7, Akregator 1.2.7). Can you please guide me to identify the problem? I found no bugreport similar to this. |
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| 20:46.16 | annma | mikeos: run it from konsole |
| 20:46.23 | annma | any usefull output? |
| 20:46.24 | Desintegr | with an empty conf ? |
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| 20:46.50 | annma | is it the first time you run aKregator mikeos? |
| 20:46.55 | mikeos | no outupt from konsole. strace stands on the point, no output. |
| 20:47.01 | majid | hi all |
| 20:47.26 | mikeos | no, it worked. I cleared-up feeds oplm, nothing changes.. |
| 20:48.11 | annma | ah, did you backup ~/.kde/share/config/akregatorrc file? |
| 20:48.22 | annma | not remove, backup |
| 20:48.24 | mikeos | annma: no, i didn't have a look at the file.. |
| 20:48.31 | mikeos | annma: i'll try |
| 20:48.35 | annma | ok |
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| 20:49.16 | mikeos | annma: there were even three more versions like akregatorrc3RsOZb.new and similar |
| 20:49.35 | annma | hmm |
| 20:50.11 | mikeos | annma: i deleted (backed up) the rc file, after having started akregator, the window has its position reset, but still the same frozen behaviour - window deadly dead |
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| 20:51.21 | annma | mikeos: then also tar the ~/.kde/share/apps:akregator dir and then rm it |
| 20:52.09 | andre_ | which one has more effects and appel for impression compiz fusion or beryl |
| 20:52.11 | mikeos | annma: yes, akregator starts without the dir and it has recreated that to defaults |
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| 20:52.34 | mikeos | annma: i will try tu put there my opml file ok? |
| 20:52.44 | annma | yes |
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| 20:54.18 | mikeos | annma: strange.. the feeds list is still by default even after having restored the data directory |
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| 20:55.11 | annma | hmm, even when restarting it? |
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| 20:56.31 | mikeos | annma: yes.. i'll try killall akregator again, but i already did... so i put back the whole directory ./kde/share/akregator and keeps freezing again |
| 20:57.06 | annma | there's a stale link in this dir |
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| 20:58.14 | mikeos | annma: i don't understand it anymore.. i'll try to keep it by default and just manually add the missing (my customized) feeds into the opml.. |
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| 20:58.49 | mikeos | annma: annma: what you mean by stale? broken? there's no broken symlink |
| 20:59.04 | annma | there is one that makes it freeze |
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| 21:00.45 | mikeos | annma: you meen an unavailable feed? well to be honest similar problem has happened to me once and i did resolve it by deleting www.slashdot.com, which weeks before the incident worked without probs even via akregator |
| 21:01.10 | annma | not sure what happens |
| 21:01.18 | mikeos | annma: it seems the last versions of akregator are broken somehow, i think my prev. problem happened even on KDE 3.5.7, now it's 3.5.8 |
| 21:01.23 | annma | you can also open a bug report and attach your feeds list |
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| 21:01.45 | annma | I don't use it steadily, I only wrote the doc for it |
| 21:02.02 | annma | I found bugs during that writing ;) |
| 21:03.26 | mikeos | annma: ;) cool. If i were a heavy akregator user, i would think I found a serious bug, but i'm just a plain user with 5 feeds doing nothing special with akregator, that's why i think something else is broken.. :) |
| 21:03.57 | annma | reporting it would be the best way and attaching your tar from config |
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| 21:04.42 | mikeos | annma: I'll do that.. where to report? ubuntu launchpad if i'm running ubuntu? or to KDE community? |
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| 22:12.29 | plazm | Hi, does any of you know a nice full theme (kdm, kde splash, etc.) that makes my kde look consistent? |
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| 22:13.25 | plazm | I perfer if it is minimalistic, at least the window decorator |
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| 22:32.13 | Bille | dcorbin: or kpowersave |
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| 22:43.50 | euxneks | hrm.. when I try to check out the head revision of KDE 4 from the anonsvn.kde.org server I get this error: svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
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| 22:44.39 | euxneks | ack wait |
| 22:44.41 | euxneks | I solved it |
| 22:44.43 | euxneks | nm anyone |
| 22:44.53 | euxneks | I just did a -N if anyone was curious |
| 22:44.57 | euxneks | then svn up |
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| 22:49.33 | drbollokovski_ | plazm: try softgreen kde-look.org |
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| 22:55.16 | jonny2 | euxneks: -N? |
| 22:55.28 | jonny2 | im getting the same subversion-error |
| 22:55.47 | euxneks | -N just checks it out non-recursively |
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| 22:56.07 | euxneks | somehow I managed to get a svn folder checked out and then I just "svn up"'ed in the directory |
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| 22:58.34 | jonny2 | i have sources from yesterday, and i get the same error on svn up |
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| 22:59.44 | euxneks | maybe it's just getting bogged down then..? |
| 22:59.49 | euxneks | I dunno I'm not a kde dev haha |
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| 23:00.24 | jonny2 | kde-devel@jonny:~/kde/src/KDE/kdebase> svn ls svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs |
| 23:00.24 | jonny2 | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
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| 23:00.49 | euxneks | johnny2: yeah I get that too |
| 23:02.36 | ct|kyle | anyone know how KDE4 is progressing |
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| 23:14.57 | antoneeo | hi guys! i have troubles checking out kdebase from anonsvn... it gives me "connection closed unexpectedly" all the time, even though 'list' does work. any ideas? |
| 23:15.54 | antoneeo | kdelibs and kdepimlibs worked fine |
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| 23:24.25 | PhilRod | antoneeo: sounds like the svn server is having some problems at the moment. Try again tomorrow, I guess |
| 23:24.44 | PhilRod | there'll probably be ball-by-ball commentary in #kde-devel or #kde4-devel |
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