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| 00:44.25 | ganymede | hey, my spellchecker (aspell) doesn't pick up the work likelyhood in either kopete or konversation |
| 00:44.44 | patson | and apparently not the word "word" either... |
| 00:44.51 | ganymede | but it should be spelled likelihood |
| 00:45.35 | ganymede | i'd like my spellchecker to pick up misspelled words |
| 00:46.16 | ganymede | i ask here because AFAIk, aspell was the only one that KDE recognizes |
| 00:47.27 | ganymede | anyway, aspell correctly finds it on console when i do `aspell list` |
| 00:47.29 | ganymede | and type it in |
| 00:47.40 | ganymede | but not in KDE, it seems |
| 00:47.48 | ganymede | makes me wonder what other mispelled words KDE isn't telling me about |
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| 00:58.54 | DaSkreech | Sho_: have some back up for that statement? |
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| 01:04.14 | troy | hey guys - anyone have an itch to attend the KDE 4.0 release party? |
| 01:04.48 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: For what statement? |
| 01:05.07 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.18 | DaSkreech | Sho_: that firefox is 1/5th the size of KDE |
| 01:05.39 | troy | DaSkreech: you could go if you had a way to get there :) |
| 01:05.40 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: Hm why are you not asking the person who made it? |
| 01:05.57 | troy | DaSkreech: we still have some empty beds to fill :) |
| 01:06.26 | DaSkreech | Sho_: Wait that wasn't you? |
| 01:06.36 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: No |
| 01:06.51 | DaSkreech | Sho_: Ok I'll drop it then I thought that you said that which is the only rason I put credence to it |
| 01:06.58 | DaSkreech | troy: how many? |
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| 01:07.17 | troy | DaSkreech: several dozen to fill yet (of 200) |
| 01:07.27 | troy | haven't done an exact count recently :) |
| 01:08.04 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: Well I wouldn't make such a statement out of thin air ... even sloccount output would be a poor metric |
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| 01:08.48 | DaSkreech | Sho_: It did seem strange as I said the only reason I had any credence put on it was I thought you said it |
| 01:08.56 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: That said, the Firefox codebase is certainly significant in size due to the fact that it basically contains an UI and a networking toolkit, along with implementations of various web technologies |
| 01:09.10 | DaSkreech | but in this case It's been sponged from the grey sponge |
| 01:11.13 | DaSkreech | troy: When is it? |
| 01:11.48 | troy | DaSkreech: Jan 17-19 at the googleplex (hotels are covered on the night of the 17th and 18th) |
| 01:12.02 | DaSkreech | Damn I'm going to be going in Feb :( |
| 01:12.03 | troy | food is catered for the event too :) |
| 01:12.13 | Sho_ | leaves the flight, I guess |
| 01:12.24 | troy | Sho_: exactly :) |
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| 01:14.51 | DaSkreech | opens :-P |
| 01:15.13 | DaSkreech | Sho_: Oh is there a way to catch ick highlights in konvi ? |
| 01:15.52 | troy | DaSkreech: I think I'm done writing over there, after only a brief time - just too busy to put anything together... |
| 01:16.34 | DaSkreech | troy: This seems like a good place to have something like this though |
| 01:17.18 | smileaf | hmm.. speaking of highlights, would be extremely nice to have some notification that you were highlighted, that gave an option to go to the highlighted message. |
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| 01:18.08 | DaSkreech | smileaf: Nearly the same thing i'm asking |
| 01:18.15 | smileaf | maybe like a little icon or something in the status bar? =) |
| 01:18.15 | DaSkreech | Just without the context :) |
| 01:18.30 | DaSkreech | smileaf: I was thinking a basket like URL catcher |
| 01:18.45 | DaSkreech | when you click on the line it jumps you back in history to where that was said |
| 01:18.46 | smileaf | not sure I know what you mean there. |
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| 01:19.51 | smileaf | way I currently do it is just run a search on my nick. but that doesn't help if its very active in here and it gets lost. |
| 01:20.18 | DaSkreech | smileaf: YOu know the URL catcher ? |
| 01:20.35 | smileaf | never used it, but yes I've seen one before |
| 01:20.39 | DaSkreech | F6 |
| 01:21.06 | DaSkreech | Well if every time your nick was highlighted the chan and time with the message could be thrown into a catcher |
| 01:21.08 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: Not at the moment, no |
| 01:21.16 | DaSkreech | Sho_: ok |
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| 01:21.49 | smileaf | DaSkreech: Ok, so yes, very similar, I'd just want a more visual approach as I'd never think to look in that catcher. |
| 01:21.58 | DaSkreech | smileaf: If you wanted you could click the channel and jump back there at the current time and respond or click the time/message and get through back to when it was send so you can get the context |
| 01:22.01 | flic1 | hi... xchat is not blinking the taskbar even though it has been set up to do so |
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| 01:22.43 | smileaf | flic1: maybe try #xchat ? |
| 01:23.06 | flic1 | also pidgin is not doing the same... |
| 01:23.17 | DaSkreech | flic1: Under KDE? |
| 01:23.22 | flic1 | yes |
| 01:23.35 | flic1 | i've been using ubuntu, just switched to the kde |
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| 01:24.51 | DaSkreech | flic1: try konversation and kopete |
| 01:24.54 | flic1 | and when set for showing a balloon, xchat says "cannot find 'notify-send' to open balloon alerts" |
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| 01:25.18 | flic1 | ok |
| 01:25.31 | flic1 | ohh btw the taskbar was actually blinking before i installed compiz |
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| 01:27.56 | flick | kicker taskbar buttons no longer flash on highlight after i installed compiz |
| 01:28.27 | smileaf | so your no longer using kwin? |
| 01:28.51 | flick | no, but when i use kwin the taskbar flashes properly |
| 01:29.17 | troy | flick: I think the reason for that is that kicker gets that information from KWin while compiz does not provide that information... |
| 01:29.27 | flick | i see |
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| 01:30.43 | sortadi | Sho_, at the end it was nor a bug nor a config problem |
| 01:30.49 | sortadi | Sho_, it was a PEBKAC |
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| 01:31.09 | sortadi | Sho_, I wasn't clicking on "Save as Deafult" on yakuake |
| 01:31.19 | sortadi | *default |
| 01:31.27 | Sho_ | flick: troy is correct - the taskbar item is blinked through the application setting a window hint, namely the _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION atom |
| 01:31.43 | Sho_ | sortadi: Ah - I did ask you a couple of times to make sure though ;) |
| 01:32.28 | sortadi | Sho_, yes, but I thought you meant on Konsole |
| 01:32.28 | flick | troy, Sho_, i see... is there any workaround? |
| 01:32.29 | DaSkreech | troy: I'll ask my bro if he wants to go |
| 01:32.29 | sortadi | Sho_, I forgot Yakuake had that also |
| 01:32.29 | troy | Sho_: I was going to tell you to stop yelling, but I guess it was a macro :) |
| 01:32.29 | Sho_ | sortadi: ah :) |
| 01:32.33 | DaSkreech | troy: Oh wait.. stay is subsidized? |
| 01:32.40 | Sho_ | troy: Mental copy'n'paste from the wm-spec ;) |
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| 01:32.49 | troy | DaSkreech: hotel and meals are covered by google |
| 01:32.55 | Sho_ | troy: All-caps _net_wm_state atom names :) |
| 01:32.59 | DaSkreech | troy: what's the time limit on that? |
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| 01:33.16 | troy | DaSkreech: well, means on the 17-19th, and hotel for the 17th and 18th... |
| 01:33.23 | troy | s/means/meals |
| 01:33.41 | DaSkreech | ah. how much if you stay a day over? |
| 01:34.02 | troy | dunno, you'd have to arrange that with the hotel I guess |
| 01:34.40 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 01:35.02 | troy | DaSkreech: I believe the hotel is called the Wild Palms hotel - you could call them and ask :) |
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| 01:35.21 | DaSkreech | troy: I'll ping you in two days or so with the consensus :) |
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| 01:36.09 | troy | DaSkreech: cool :) this is a party, not exclusively a developer event - so enthusastic users are definitely the types that we'd like out there :) |
| 01:37.27 | DaSkreech | I'll paint the town Blue! |
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| 01:38.31 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: You could also just say "Yahoo!" a lot while you're there |
| 01:38.41 | DaSkreech | I'd need a cowboy hat for that |
| 01:40.47 | DaSkreech | that's so matter of fact |
| 01:42.26 | flick | guess i'll stop using compiz |
| 01:42.32 | Sho_ | I'm off to bed ... g'night guys :) |
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| 01:54.38 | DaSkreech | Night Sho_ |
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| 02:14.54 | gnoob | Hello all, I have a question. Kopete keeps telling me that my Yahoo password is incorrect. I am using Gentoo and KDE 3.5.7 |
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| 02:31.35 | pip | gnoob, Then what does that mean ? |
| 02:31.49 | AssociateX | hi and hello |
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| 02:33.24 | pip | AssociateX, Hi |
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| 02:34.36 | gnoob | pip; I have no idea. I don't know why it's doing that. |
| 02:35.02 | pip | gnoob, How do you think of gentoo ? |
| 02:35.15 | pip | I am going to try it later |
| 02:35.46 | gnoob | I like Gentoo. It takes some work, it's not always user friendly but I like it. |
| 02:36.13 | pip | I'd like that |
| 02:36.19 | AssociateX | I have used gentoo for a long time now. It's not bad at all |
| 02:36.34 | bwayne | Gentoo can become overly laborious for someone just wanting a typical desktop environment. |
| 02:36.38 | AssociateX | package installs are great |
| 02:36.43 | pip | So many gentoo guys around : D |
| 02:36.53 | pip | I am a Fedora guy |
| 02:36.54 | bwayne | gentoo rocks. |
| 02:36.56 | gnoob | bwayne; yes, that's kind of what I meant. |
| 02:37.01 | AssociateX | bwayne, what do you mean? |
| 02:37.08 | pip | Fedora is not clean enough |
| 02:37.49 | bwayne | AssociateX: I mean, if all you want your computer to do is check email, surf the web, listening to music, Gentoo can seem like you're doing more work with the OS than simply enjoying it. |
| 02:38.13 | bwayne | for instance, the libexpat2 upgrade recently. |
| 02:38.22 | AssociateX | bwayne, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_"Best_Practices" |
| 02:39.05 | bwayne | AssociateX: "There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page." HAHAHA |
| 02:39.06 | AssociateX | bwayne, the libexpat type thing happens on all distros. |
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| 02:39.31 | bwayne | AssociateX: don't get me wrong, I love gentoo. |
| 02:39.31 | AssociateX | tp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_"Best_Practices" |
| 02:39.35 | AssociateX | dang it |
| 02:39.37 | AssociateX | lol |
| 02:39.56 | bwayne | I've read that page. :) |
| 02:40.08 | AssociateX | I'm posting the link wrong |
| 02:40.11 | AssociateX | haha |
| 02:40.24 | AssociateX | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_"Best_Practices" |
| 02:40.33 | bwayne | Nope. |
| 02:40.53 | AssociateX | I wonder why the " " are being dropped |
| 02:40.57 | AssociateX | that's the error |
| 02:41.15 | bwayne | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_%22Best_Practices%22 |
| 02:42.13 | AssociateX | bwayne, your that man! |
| 02:42.19 | AssociateX | haha, thanks |
| 02:42.38 | bwayne | huh, never took notice of eix-text-obsolete. |
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| 02:42.54 | AssociateX | bwayne, I just added that |
| 02:43.07 | AssociateX | about 3 weeks ago |
| 02:43.18 | bwayne | AssociateX: really? neat. that'll come in handy. |
| 02:43.51 | AssociateX | bwayne, I added the "Portage kernel modules" section too |
| 02:44.20 | bwayne | AssociateX: I'm looking to move away from using Portage. I don't like how, say, gentoo-xeffects overlay gets mixed in with a world update when I sync. |
| 02:44.34 | AssociateX | me either |
| 02:44.36 | bwayne | would you recommend pkgcore or Paludis? |
| 02:44.45 | AssociateX | I think that's friggin' horrible |
| 02:44.58 | bwayne | what? the mixture? |
| 02:45.07 | AssociateX | yes |
| 02:45.22 | AssociateX | would you recommend pkgcore or Paludis? <---- I don't know enough about them |
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| 02:45.41 | bwayne | Yeah. It makes it feel like just using cvs or svn or whatever would be better than using Layman. |
| 02:45.45 | AssociateX | no no, hold on |
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| 02:46.15 | AssociateX | "I don't like how, say, gentoo-xeffects overlay gets mixed in with a world update" <---- AssociateX I think that's friggin' horrible |
| 02:46.31 | multi | hi |
| 02:46.33 | multi | i was wondering if ther was anyway, i could install microsoft visual studio 6(C++) on this os |
| 02:47.11 | suse-lover | Hi all, please help with this: I recently installed suse10.3, and I can't install my SDcard reader... everytime I put it, the system crashes... any ideas? |
| 02:47.15 | DaSkreech | wine |
| 02:47.16 | AssociateX | bwayne, I would like it all to be cleaner and with out the hocus pocus. |
| 02:47.28 | aseigo | multi: yes, but we call it KDevelop or Eclipse ;) |
| 02:47.30 | DaSkreech | suse-lover: try #opensuse |
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| 02:47.50 | AssociateX | bwayne, I'm agreeing with you there |
| 02:47.59 | suse-lover | DaSkreech, somebody banned me :( |
| 02:48.30 | bwayne | AssociateX: right on. hey. I was trying to emerge kde-meta the other day and I got mutually blocking packages that were to be installed. wtf is up with that? |
| 02:48.33 | sebb_ | Hi, am I at the right place to ask how to install KDE 4 from subversion? |
| 02:48.56 | aseigo | multi: which is to say.. no, you can't install MSVC on linux (assuming that's the os you refer to) but we have two other apps that are quite good: eclipse and kdevelop |
| 02:48.56 | AssociateX | bwayne, just go split ebuild |
| 02:49.09 | AssociateX | I think it's better anyway. |
| 02:49.18 | aseigo | sebb_: if you go to techbase.kde.org and click on the getting started link |
| 02:49.23 | AssociateX | unless you want the whole shebang |
| 02:49.41 | aseigo | sebb_: (... erm .. finishes that sentence: ) you'll find instructions there. |
| 02:49.53 | bwayne | AssociateX: i agree. didn't realize kde-meta was monolithic. duh! |
| 02:50.05 | AssociateX | bwayne, anyway, if you want the meta, just emerge -C the blocking packages |
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| 02:50.23 | bwayne | AssociateX: that's the thing. they weren't even installed yet. neither of them. |
| 02:50.32 | AssociateX | really? |
| 02:50.35 | sebb_ | ok, thanks, I'll try to built it |
| 02:50.39 | bwayne | AssociateX: yah. freaky eh? |
| 02:50.40 | sebb_ | *build |
| 02:51.09 | AssociateX | bwayne, weird, but I've been drinking vodka/Hi-C. |
| 02:51.11 | DaSkreech | hi aseigo |
| 02:51.28 | DaSkreech | how are you? |
| 02:51.48 | bwayne | AssociateX: nice. ;-) No way I could admin a gentoo box in that condition. |
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| 02:53.49 | bwayne | AssociateX: it appear KDE-meta is split, eh? |
| 02:53.54 | AssociateX | bwayne, yes |
| 02:54.17 | bwayne | AssociateX: maybe I should get back and file a bug. |
| 02:54.27 | AssociateX | which is what I thought, but I just double checked in #kde |
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| 02:54.35 | AssociateX | #gentoo* |
| 02:54.36 | AssociateX | lol |
| 02:54.43 | bwayne | yeah, i'm there too. |
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| 02:55.14 | AssociateX | eix the blocking package to see if there is an [I] |
| 02:55.48 | bwayne | AssociateX: I thought I remember doing that. I rm the stuff from /usr/local/layman whenever it does that, typically. |
| 02:56.03 | bwayne | the stuff I don't use, that is, or that is conflicting. |
| 02:56.19 | AssociateX | bwayne, now that's what I don't like |
| 02:56.32 | AssociateX | what a pain in the donkey |
| 02:56.46 | bwayne | AssociateX: feels dirty, yeah. but that's the only way of not confusing portage. |
| 02:57.13 | bwayne | which is what made me say forgoing layman is probably the better method. |
| 02:57.14 | AssociateX | that's why I got rid of the 3d window stuff |
| 02:57.24 | sabayonlive-3494 | where is WINE in sabayon BE |
| 02:57.51 | bwayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.03 | bwayne | just do a search from the menu. |
| 02:58.10 | sabayonlive-3494 | ok |
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| 02:59.39 | AssociateX | bwayne, beryl is what I was thinking of. I tried it but I didn't like all the magical hocus pocus crud to get it to work |
| 02:59.43 | Skeith | Is there a licence I can assume images on the kde site are under for wikipedia? |
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| 03:00.27 | AssociateX | Skeith, good question. |
| 03:00.33 | bwayne | AssociateX: i use fusion-icon. easy startup. |
| 03:00.38 | AssociateX | although I don't know |
| 03:01.05 | bwayne | Skeith: probably Creative Commons. |
| 03:01.29 | AssociateX | bwayne, I tried all of that stuff then ended up -C it because of the uncleanliness |
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| 03:02.05 | bwayne | AssociateX: i think it enhances gnome. but it is a detriment to KDE, though. |
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| 03:02.29 | bwayne | though I do like the expo plugin and desktop wall. |
| 03:02.33 | AssociateX | bwayne, what is gnome? |
| 03:02.37 | AssociateX | lol |
| 03:02.43 | bwayne | :-) |
| 03:03.47 | AssociateX | just kidding, I know what gnome is, but I've only used KDE since the very beginning of my Linux adventures |
| 03:04.04 | AssociateX | wait a minute.... |
| 03:04.50 | AssociateX | I have also tried gnome, blackbox, flux, and a ton of others. I just never really leave KDE. |
| 03:05.54 | bwayne | Yeah. KDE is top notch. I like others as well. Just in a KDE mood recently. |
| 03:06.48 | bwayne | really wish KDE would do their own compositing which was integrated more fully into the rest of the desktop environment. |
| 03:07.03 | ganymede | it will by Kwin4 |
| 03:07.30 | bwayne | ganymede: really? i go google it. |
| 03:07.43 | AssociateX | I'm waiting... |
| 03:07.45 | AssociateX | haha |
| 03:07.56 | AssociateX | but am looking forward to it |
| 03:08.29 | ganymede | can student KDE developers use donations to help pay their tuition? |
| 03:08.46 | AssociateX | why not? |
| 03:09.06 | ganymede | because i owe around $3000 with no way of obtaining it |
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| 03:09.31 | ganymede | hey, just a thought. maybe KDE programming isn't the most lucrative idea... |
| 03:10.28 | AssociateX | technically there maybe an issue but I've seen students do some crazy stuff to get money that would mess with their eligibility and nothing happen to them. |
| 03:10.42 | AssociateX | what is the dean going to check you paypal account? |
| 03:11.19 | ganymede | uhh...paying from donations shouldn't be a problem, should it? |
| 03:11.23 | ganymede | anyway, it's a crazy idea |
| 03:11.30 | ganymede | no way i'll get $3000 in donations for progamming |
| 03:11.39 | ganymede | and besides, money is the wrong reason to program for KDE |
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| 03:11.47 | AssociateX | ganymede, what ever |
| 03:12.20 | AssociateX | no, no, who knows, I don't think so. |
| 03:12.37 | AssociateX | those are my answers |
| 03:12.42 | ganymede | i'll probably take out loans |
| 03:12.55 | AssociateX | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.00 | DaSkreech | ganymede: Sure the SoC guys mostly dump the cheque back into tutiton |
| 03:13.03 | ganymede | but i must admit in shame, i program some closed-source things on my free-time |
| 03:13.18 | ganymede | DaSkreech: around how much are those scholarships? |
| 03:13.29 | DaSkreech | 5000 |
| 03:13.41 | DaSkreech | As I reca;; |
| 03:13.52 | sabayonlive-3494 | how I run a win aplication with WINE? |
| 03:14.07 | ganymede | and i guess it's pretty involved, right? like i'd make more money if i did a full-time job in that time? |
| 03:14.12 | bwayne | wine /path/to/program.exe |
| 03:14.28 | AssociateX | ganymede, don't be a douche bag, if you can get the money go get it. If you program for some closed source people maybe they would like pay your tuition. |
| 03:14.40 | sabayonlive-3494 | OK |
| 03:14.41 | sabayonlive-3494 | ok |
| 03:14.43 | sabayonlive-3494 | thanks |
| 03:14.51 | bwayne | np |
| 03:15.00 | ganymede | AssociateX: i'm the person i program closed-source for |
| 03:15.06 | DaSkreech | ganymede: Dunno |
| 03:15.09 | bwayne | sabayonlive-3494: you should look into the KDevelopment packages. |
| 03:15.20 | DaSkreech | ganymede: Wait till next summer and find out |
| 03:16.08 | AssociateX | ganymede, you must be a billion-heir by now then. (j/k) |
| 03:16.17 | Skeith | The results of the SoC this year are very impressive by whats been covered on the commit digest |
| 03:16.57 | ganymede | oh, while we're on the topic, what's the correct way to read large amounts of data from a QTcpSocket? |
| 03:17.08 | ganymede | (oh wait, that's a completely different topic) |
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| 03:17.32 | ganymede | i put in a loop and it does waitForReadyRead() and then read()s, but it's awfully slow |
| 03:17.49 | ganymede | should i be instead connected the ready read signal to something? and unloading the socket onto a buffer? |
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| 03:36.01 | smileaf | ganymede: personally, I'd use the signal/slot approach as otherwise it'd cause UI blocking. |
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| 03:36.30 | ganymede | smileaf: and then can i read from the buffer at the same time, while a slot is writing to the buffer? |
| 03:36.57 | ganymede | ganymede: i imagine i'll have a pointer to tell me what part of the buffer i'm up to. (assuming it's a char* buffer) |
| 03:37.02 | smileaf | that I'm not sure of, been a really long time since I've work with networking apps. |
| 03:38.17 | smileaf | I'd assume it'd be safe, signal should be emitted when data is ready to read. that slot would read from the buffer. |
| 03:39.04 | ganymede | i thought that slot would write to the buffer from the socket |
| 03:39.29 | ganymede | meanwhile, i have to start displaying the image data that's coming into the socket |
| 03:39.33 | smileaf | wow.. been 3 years since I've done anything with Qt's TCP stuff. lol |
| 03:39.48 | ganymede | maybe i'll look at konqueroro source for viewing images |
| 03:39.53 | ganymede | or would that be under gwenview? |
| 03:40.07 | smileaf | it should be using kio |
| 03:40.08 | ganymede | (and does it show images as they are being downloaded if they are progressive?) |
| 03:40.49 | ganymede | i'm not too familiar with KDe networking, does it use a kde-provided socket object, or plain qt sockets objects? |
| 03:41.26 | ganymede | well, i guess that depends on whether we're talking about the kdelibs or kde apps |
| 03:41.42 | smileaf | KDE uses KIO for its networking, so I'd say take a look at those. |
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| 03:46.31 | ganymede | okay, thanks |
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| 04:05.48 | matooke | is this where I find KDE4 info? |
| 04:06.19 | smileaf | what type of info? |
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| 04:07.11 | DaSkreech | No that would be the net :) |
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| 04:08.33 | stan_ley | exit |
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| 04:37.31 | AmyRose | Is there a K menu in KDE 4 or is that being dropped for some reason? |
| 04:37.59 | AmyRose | I got KDE 4 beta 3 to start but could not figure out how to start applications without using Alt+F2 |
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| 04:40.16 | sputnick | hi |
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| 04:40.28 | sputnick | strange... |
| 04:41.12 | sputnick | sometimes my kde-3.5 on debian lenny is stucked |
| 04:41.43 | sputnick | like now. a top didn't show particular load$ |
| 04:42.07 | sputnick | I don't understand :/ |
| 04:42.55 | sputnick | I can't browsing local files. I see the icon of konqueror working but nothing appears |
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| 04:43.32 | sputnick | no problem browsing web |
| 04:43.58 | DaSkreech | AmyRose: There is one it's not ready yet |
| 04:44.00 | sputnick | any idea except kill X ? |
| 04:44.03 | DaSkreech | redone Kickoff |
| 04:44.45 | AmyRose | ok |
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| 04:47.37 | ssokolow_ | Ugh. I just looked at the KDE 4 Beta 3 screenshots (I'd forgotten to keep up to date with releases) and I'm not liking what I see WRT the WinDeco. (And the Baghira guy is working on that, so I can kiss the one I currently use goodbye) |
| 04:49.12 | n00bcakes | meh, i just hope some people make some decent themes once KDE4 is actually out |
| 04:49.57 | ssokolow_ | Same. I might if PyKDE4 makes it possible to do so in Python and it's not a noticeable slowdown. (Considering that I'm on a dual-core 5Ghz-equivalent Athlon, it probably won't be) |
| 04:50.35 | AmyRose | ssokolow_: But what about those of us who have computers made in 2003 or earlier? |
| 04:50.58 | ssokolow_ | AmyRose: Find a way for me to have enough free time to learn C++ and I'd gladly do it. |
| 04:51.36 | ssokolow_ | Of course, if someone ports the IceWM bitmap WinDeco proxy, I'll just use that. Even less hassle. |
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| 04:52.21 | n00bcakes | lol hope that whatever performance gain you get via QT4 is only cancelled out by all the glitz |
| 04:52.26 | ssokolow_ | Might even embarass the creators of the current themes into creating something decent if everyone is being forced to use IceWM themes to get what they want. |
| 04:52.44 | AmyRose | ssokolow_: I suppose that's better than GNOME, where they're trying to get everything based on Mono |
| 04:53.13 | AmyRose | Icaza mentioned that he wanted everything in GNOME to be Mono-based by GNOME 4, and to have most of it by 3.0 |
| 04:53.20 | ssokolow_ | AmyRose: Ugh! |
| 04:53.29 | AmyRose | I'm sadly not kidding |
| 04:53.49 | aseigo | ssokolow_: the fellow who did baghira isn't working on the oxy styles anymore afaik |
| 04:54.04 | ssokolow_ | Thankfully, there are very few GTK+ apps I use. Mainly Audacious Media Player (the devs would shoot you for suggesting C#), GIMP, and Inkscape. |
| 04:54.30 | ssokolow_ | aseigo: Last I checked, the Bagihra site still had the "no port planned message" though. |
| 04:54.41 | aseigo | that's probably right |
| 04:55.01 | ssokolow_ | n00bcakes: You're looking at someone who used Fluxbox and Xfce for performance gains, only to switch back to KDE for the integration upon finding themes which didn't sear his retinas. |
| 04:55.21 | DaSkreech | n00bcakes: People normally don't ? |
| 04:55.48 | ssokolow_ | I'm perfectly willing to stick with KDE 3 until it meets my needs... and considering how busy the author of BasKet is, that could take a while. |
| 04:56.25 | DaSkreech | ssokolow_: no bagihra for KDE4 |
| 04:56.33 | ssokolow_ | Of course, I was bluntly honest in my applauding e-mail to him when he announced that he hadn't managed to find enough manpower to implement OpenUsability's idiotic "Document-like interface" recommendation. |
| 04:56.59 | DaSkreech | ssokolow_: Eh? |
| 04:57.04 | DaSkreech | He gave up basket |
| 04:57.30 | ssokolow_ | My point is that I'd rather live with KDE 3 for the rest of my life than be subject to that design. |
| 04:57.33 | DaSkreech | troy: My family is up for it |
| 04:57.38 | DaSkreech | can I bring My brother? |
| 04:57.58 | ssokolow_ | ...of course, I'd probably re-implement BasKet in Python if I hadn't managed to find time to learn C++ in the next few years. |
| 04:58.03 | n00bcakes | what design? kde4 or opendocument? |
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| 04:58.17 | ssokolow_ | n00bcakes: Neither. Give me a sec to find a mockup. |
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| 05:00.31 | DaSkreech | ssokolow_: There is a basket team You can go talk to them |
| 05:00.39 | ssokolow_ | First mock-up on this page --> http://basket.kde.org/version2.php |
| 05:01.03 | ssokolow_ | I'd rather rewrite BasKet from scratch in Python than be forced to use that. |
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| 05:01.50 | ssokolow_ | ...and yes, I do mean tolerating having all my CPU-bottleneck code in Python too. |
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| 05:02.29 | ssokolow_ | I like their Sections and Pages idea, but that's about it. |
| 05:03.07 | DaSkreech | It looks nearly the same as it does now |
| 05:03.22 | ssokolow_ | I'm very big on the whole individual notes bit. |
| 05:03.35 | ssokolow_ | They have a great deal of semantic meaning to me. |
| 05:03.49 | ssokolow_ | If I wanted it all mushed together, I'd use old fashioned pen and paper. |
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| 05:04.12 | DaSkreech | ... |
| 05:04.19 | DaSkreech | Use Knotes then |
| 05:04.47 | n00bcakes | heh, kinda looks like MS OneNote |
| 05:04.50 | ssokolow_ | DaSkreech: Too inefficient and doesn't scale to several megabytes of text. |
| 05:05.21 | DaSkreech | But basket is so much more than text |
| 05:05.31 | DaSkreech | ssokolow_: so rewrite knotes :) |
| 05:05.52 | ssokolow_ | DaSkreech: I know. I also use BasKet it for images and URLs and embedded arbitrary files. |
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| 05:06.15 | ssokolow_ | Oh, and the multi-column bit. |
| 05:06.44 | DaSkreech | Oh I haven't found a use for that yet |
| 05:07.07 | ssokolow_ | I use it everywhere. It's especially handy for things like giant TODO lists. |
| 05:07.30 | ssokolow_ | n00bcakes: As I see it, that's the problem. Too many OneNote idiots trying to turn BasKet into "OneNote for Linux" |
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| 05:07.52 | DaSkreech | I try not to keep Giant to do lists |
| 05:08.21 | DaSkreech | Once my to do lists get big enough that I have to t have a a to do to clean up my to do list then it's time to do something |
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| 05:08.32 | ssokolow_ | DaSkreech: Same, but it happens anyway. Usually things like having several three-column screenfuls of rare songs I have yet to find a way to acquire. |
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| 05:08.51 | DaSkreech | Speaking of rare songs |
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| 05:18.30 | lowks | how do i install a kde commander script ? |
| 05:18.37 | lowks | with extension .kmdr ? |
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| 05:23.44 | tazz | i just did a 'apt-get install kde4base kde4base-dev kdebase-workspace' and restarted kdm, but still looks like i am using the 3.x.x version. how do i shift to kde4, ? |
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| 05:25.06 | DaSkreech | tazz: did you select KDE4 from sessions ? |
| 05:25.37 | tazz | DaSkreech: i dont think kde4 showed-up in the sessions list. Let me double check |
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| 05:26.42 | tazz | DaSkreech: nope kde4 dosnt showup |
| 05:28.34 | vinboy | how do I change Konqueror's cache location? |
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| 05:39.26 | tazz | i followed the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php but it dosnt seem to be working. |
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| 05:40.53 | DaSkreech | tazz: Maybe ask in #kubuntu ? |
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| 05:49.47 | vinboy_ | how do I change Konqueror's cache location? |
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| 05:52.16 | n00bcakes | why |
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| 06:34.10 | anom01y | is there any way I can reset kde (ctrl-alt-backspace) without shutting down programs ? |
| 06:34.39 | anom01y | so I can do this and all my programs will still be running |
| 06:35.03 | anom01y | because when I re-log back in I have to turn back on everything |
| 06:35.56 | johnny69 | I feel all null and void. :( |
| 06:37.27 | anom01y | ok, what I meant was |
| 06:37.37 | anom01y | does ctrl-alt-backspace log you out ? |
| 06:37.50 | anom01y | because it doesnt seem like it does |
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| 06:38.22 | anom01y | but you have to log back in because it takes you to the log in screen, and then only to find out that none of the proggrams you had running before you hit ctrl-alt-backspace are running anymore... |
| 06:38.38 | anom01y | kind of a pain |
| 06:38.52 | anom01y | anyone ? |
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| 06:40.09 | Madd_Matt | hi sorry normally I would't be this stupid but I'm drunk. anyways I killed my kde taskbar thing (xkill) and would like it back, but I can't figure out the name of the binary I want to run |
| 06:41.17 | anom01y | run kicker |
| 06:41.26 | anom01y | right click the desktop, hit run command, |
| 06:41.28 | Madd_Matt | oh thanks |
| 06:41.30 | anom01y | type kicker |
| 06:41.39 | Madd_Matt | yeah, I can get a shell, just couldn't remember "kicker" |
| 06:41.51 | Madd_Matt | there are over 300 commands starting with "k" lol |
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| 06:43.11 | anom01y | yeah |
| 06:43.16 | anom01y | konsole |
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| 07:37.28 | chakie | good morning |
| 07:38.12 | chakie | what does a process named "kded" actually do? for the last half year or so it keeps hogging the cpu at 99% every time i boot |
| 07:38.41 | chakie | eventually i want my cpu back so i bring the grim reaper down on it |
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| 07:39.47 | chakie | ah yeah, it's internally dead too so nothing really works (konqueror etc) until i kill it |
| 07:39.51 | chakie | slightly annoying |
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| 07:40.15 | [GALAXY] | chakie: what distro ? |
| 07:40.36 | chakie | two versions of kubuntu |
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| 07:40.58 | chakie | ie it still happens with the new one i upgraded to last night |
| 07:41.00 | [GALAXY] | http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kded/html/index.html |
| 07:41.12 | [GALAXY] | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kded/README.kded?view=markup |
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| 07:41.22 | [GALAXY] | thats the description of its presence.. |
| 07:41.52 | chakie | doesn't really seem to important |
| 07:42.16 | chakie | apparently cookies don't work when i nuke it though |
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| 07:46.13 | gza | Hi |
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| 07:46.52 | gza | I'm searching for a simple way to update /etc/mailcap with kde's mime database |
| 07:47.00 | gza | a scripting way |
| 07:47.25 | gza | how can I extract mime file/program association from KDE |
| 07:47.28 | gza | ? |
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| 07:50.09 | gza | Can we read /tmp/user/ksyscoca? |
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| 08:05.29 | michele | How can I change the speed of the mouse pointer? |
| 08:05.45 | gza | Anyone knows how extract this information? |
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| 08:09.13 | gza | michele Menu "K" > Control Center |
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| 08:11.51 | shevy | before googling for a long time, maybe one of you knows what this error could mean upon compiling kdelibs 3.5.8 http://pastie.caboo.se/109312 ? |
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| 08:15.01 | annma | shevy: compiling from tarballs? |
| 08:15.23 | annma | shevy: paste more when you paste |
| 08:15.29 | annma | paste the last compiling line |
| 08:17.24 | gza | I'm searching for a simple way to update /etc/mailcap (firefox/thunderbird and non gnome/kde progs mime/program association ) with kde's mime database |
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| 08:18.11 | gza | So we could have Firefox knowing what program open what sort of file |
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| 08:26.34 | shevy | annma, i think i solved it, was a problem with libart/libIDN |
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| 08:27.27 | jan | someone here who can help with wifi IBB thinkpad t41 |
| 08:27.38 | jan | ibm t41 |
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| 08:28.29 | annma | jan: no, ask your distro channel or use Google |
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| 08:34.20 | sredna | hi from kde4 desktop :o |
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| 08:36.18 | shevy | haha |
| 08:36.33 | shevy | from latest tarballs? |
| 08:36.51 | annma | sredna: hi! |
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| 09:40.02 | annma | :)) |
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| 09:48.59 | rane | hi guys |
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| 09:55.05 | luislo | Hi all, I use suse 10.3, KDE. Recently I installed AWN, three diff methods, 1-click install, and dev and stable versions from original website. The problem is that the bar doesn't sit where it's supposed to. I posted a comment, here, with images explaining my results. I believe it's a problem with the screen configuration. please take a look : |
| 09:55.05 | luislo | http://www.planetblur.org/hosted/awnforum/index.php?shard=forum&action=g_reply&ID=1137&page=1&isLive=true |
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| 09:57.40 | annma | luislo: did you ask in #opensuse? |
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| 09:58.22 | luislo | it's more like a kde problem isn't it? plus annma, the f*(*&(ing aka_druid banned me... |
| 09:58.51 | luislo | annma: I just complained about the way he answered us some questions, trating us like stupids or something, and boom, he banned me |
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| 09:59.12 | luislo | annma: that was like 10 hours earlier and I'm still banned |
| 09:59.20 | annma | ah luislo :( |
| 09:59.33 | annma | I know nothing about AWN |
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| 09:59.51 | annma | but I don't see how this is a KDE problem |
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| 09:59.56 | luislo | annma: although it's not really a problem with AWN, I'm sure... could you please take a look at those images I post... |
| 10:00.15 | luislo | well, in Gnome it works... |
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| 10:00.25 | luislo | but I don't like Gnome |
| 10:00.37 | annma | what works exactly? |
| 10:00.55 | annma | I fail to see what AWN is |
| 10:01.28 | luislo | oh, ok, it is the bar... the little black bar at the bottom of each image |
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| 10:02.00 | luislo | well, it should be like at the very bottom of the screen, but is off like 1 cm or so above where it should sit... |
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| 10:02.35 | luislo | so, it seems like there's a configuration of the system that fools my program to think the screen is actually smaller... |
| 10:02.58 | annma | link to this AWN? |
| 10:03.52 | luislo | what distro are u using? |
| 10:04.14 | annma | I compile KDE from source |
| 10:04.33 | annma | and I have Mandriva |
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| 10:05.01 | luislo | ok, website: http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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| 10:09.21 | annma | how did you installAWN? Suse rpm? |
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| 10:10.03 | luislo | well, I actually tried three approaches... first the dev version, coz they recommend that in the website as ou can see, for that you use a program called bzr |
| 10:10.25 | luislo | then, the stable version, which is basically just compiling from source what it is on that site... |
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| 10:10.51 | luislo | and I just learned that suse10.3 has a 1-click install version, so I tried that too |
| 10:12.12 | luislo | BTW, how long in gral someone stays banned from a channel? |
| 10:12.15 | annma | I hjave to go for muncj |
| 10:12.22 | annma | for lunch |
| 10:12.28 | annma | depends luislo |
| 10:12.34 | annma | when I ban, I ban forever |
| 10:12.40 | annma | but they are spammers |
| 10:12.43 | annma | ;) |
| 10:14.14 | luislo | hehe ok... that gives me some hope, thanks enjoy ur lunch |
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| 10:18.36 | luislo | Hi all, so I have this problem. This (**&*( guy banned me from opensuse, just because I complained about the way he was answering our questions, not precisely in the kindest manner... so is there a way to reach someone in that channel and tell what happened, so he could remove my ban? |
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| 10:19.59 | rane | i have trouble tracking down a keyboard shortcut or a gesture... it has something to do with ESC key, it shuts down my PC completely while i work and press it unconsiously |
| 10:20.10 | rane | do you happen to remember anything doing such an evil thing? :-) |
| 10:20.29 | rane | i'd like to turn the b****** off but can't find him |
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| 10:21.28 | luislo | isn't it ctrl+alt+esc? |
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| 10:22.06 | rohan | is there some kde program i can use to convert audio files from one format to the other ? |
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| 10:22.19 | rohan | some program which is preferably in the ubuntu/debian repo |
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| 10:22.41 | rane | luislo: nope, it does xkill, doesn't shut down the system |
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| 10:23.51 | rane | luislo: for your opensuse problem, try /msg chanserv info #opensuse and /msg chanserv access #opensuse list and try to contact other ops or the channel contact |
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| 10:24.48 | crazy_bus | is there anyway to open one video in kaffeine while keeping your place in another? |
| 10:25.07 | luislo | thanks rane |
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| 10:37.41 | rizwaan | kde4 livecd |
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| 10:57.41 | ponto | Hi, I am trying to install kde4 beta 3 from source. After installing kdebase I try to start konqueror. However I get the following message: QLibrary::load_sys: Cannot load /home/kde/kde/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so |
| 10:57.46 | ponto | The file exists. |
| 10:57.51 | ponto | What could be wrong? |
| 10:58.07 | ponto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:58.43 | pinotree | missing LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
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| 11:00.23 | ponto | I do not thinks so, because the path is absolute. |
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| 11:00.33 | pinotree | no.... |
| 11:00.56 | ponto | However I try to set it. |
| 11:01.05 | pinotree | try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/kde/kde/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH konqueror |
| 11:02.06 | ponto | Starting konqueror always takes about two minutes. One moment. |
| 11:04.05 | ponto | Ok. Now the message disappeared. Strange. |
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| 11:07.22 | pinotree | i told you |
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| 11:08.07 | DobosCake | Hi. |
| 11:08.36 | DobosCake | I'm using Firefox and I'm on a Chinese site. The fonts in the page look fine, but the title has only rectangles... anyone knows how to solve this? |
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| 11:09.13 | rane | DobosCake: probably the font you set for titles can't handle it |
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| 11:09.30 | rane | go to appearance and themes -> fonts and change it there |
| 11:09.46 | maki | i have 2 panels and i like to make one panel with kicker background and one transparent |
| 11:09.52 | maki | how can i make this? |
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| 11:12.06 | PhilRod | DobosCake: ask in #firefox |
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| 11:12.42 | PhilRod | ponto: slow startup times like that for kde apps usually mean a misconfigured network - there's an entry for it in the faq (see topic) |
| 11:15.06 | ponto | PhilRod: which entry? or is there a way to get the faq on a single page? |
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| 11:17.28 | PhilRod | hrm, I can't find it. I'm sure there was one |
| 11:17.53 | PhilRod | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/webbrowser.html#id2557824 may be relevant |
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| 11:19.23 | ponto | PhilRod: thanks. but this does not change anything |
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| 11:21.55 | PhilRod | ponto: ah, my mistake - it's in the user guide, not the faq: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/troubleshooting.html#troubleshooting-network-x |
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| 11:22.14 | mortan | hi! is there some kind of gui for taskset available in kde? |
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| 11:23.17 | annma | taskset mortan? |
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| 11:24.15 | mortan | annma: jeah, you can set the cpu affinity with this program |
| 11:24.48 | crazy_bus | is there anyway to get amarok to rename the id tags to be the same as the filename. Or any other program to do that? |
| 11:24.48 | PhilRod | mortan: best place to look is kde-apps.org |
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| 11:26.58 | ponto | PhilRod: still no effect. |
| 11:27.36 | ponto | PhilRod: i do not think it is a network problem. The first 20 seconds of startup konqueror spends with konqueror(29754)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KConfigSkeleton::readConfig: KConfigSkeleton::readConfig() |
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| 11:28.52 | mortan | crazy_bus: there is a program i think it can do this, but it's for windows... but i'm sure you can use a combination from "find .", "awk" and some kind of mp3-tag editor |
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| 11:32.13 | letto | crazy_bus: click edit track information |
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| 11:32.50 | letto | crazy_bus: you need to right click in the playlist |
| 11:33.20 | letto | crazy_bus: you can also select multiple files |
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| 11:33.55 | letto | crazy_bus: but you need to dit per track |
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| 11:34.02 | crazy_bus | so it gives the same information for all selected tracks? |
| 11:34.08 | crazy_bus | what is dit? |
| 11:34.20 | letto | crazy_bus: and select guess from filename |
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| 11:35.27 | letto | crazy_bus: edit* |
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| 11:35.59 | letto | crazy_bus: yes there is a set filenames scheme button |
| 11:36.04 | crazy_bus | I don't understand. where are all these options? |
| 11:37.04 | letto | crazy_bus: in the amarok playlist you need to right click |
| 11:37.19 | letto | crazy_bus: on a track |
| 11:37.49 | letto | crazy_bus: and click edit track information |
| 11:37.51 | PhilRod | ponto: I guess you could try strace'ing it if you really don't think it's a network problem |
| 11:38.05 | crazy_bus | I did that. But I didn't see the options you were talking about |
| 11:38.19 | crazy_bus | oh now I do |
| 11:38.28 | crazy_bus | guess tag from filename |
| 11:38.31 | ponto | PhilRod: have to postpone this till later. thanks. |
| 11:38.33 | letto | crazy_bus: edit track information ? |
| 11:39.56 | letto | crazy_bus: look at the other 2 buttons also |
| 11:40.24 | letto | crazy_bus: the one with musicbrainz and filename schemes |
| 11:41.15 | crazy_bus | thanks |
| 11:41.46 | letto | crazy_bus: np :) |
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| 11:44.13 | crazy_bus | one last question. What specific file do I need to transfer my oggs to mp3s inside of amarok |
| 11:45.22 | letto | crazy_bus: you mean convert them ? |
| 11:45.31 | crazy_bus | yes |
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| 11:45.54 | letto | crazy_bus: install transkode |
| 11:49.19 | crazy_bus | if I make a mistake in naming the track information inside amarok is there any way to undo it? |
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| 11:51.02 | kaminix | [Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy / KDE 3.5.8] Anyone else having pastebin problems in Konqueror? |
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| 11:51.35 | letto | crazy_bus: only if you hit cancel before editing |
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| 11:52.07 | crazy_bus | which pastbin and I'll try |
| 11:52.53 | kaminix | crazy_bus: frm.pastebin.com |
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| 11:54.21 | crazy_bus | what's the problem. I was just able to post a message there |
| 11:54.35 | kaminix | Hmm... I can't post in Swiftfox either. |
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| 12:08.39 | crazy_bus | letto: is there a easy way to install transkode. I went to the script manager but couldn't see it there |
| 12:08.42 | robotangel | hi there |
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| 12:20.21 | tapas | how can i fix this? |
| 12:20.38 | tapas | i tried moving the kate dir in ~/.kde/share/apps/ |
| 12:20.51 | KRF | tapas, change it in ~/.kde/share/config/katerc |
| 12:20.53 | tapas | no dice thoguh |
| 12:20.55 | tapas | ah ok |
| 12:21.21 | tapas | i think i might just move that file ;) |
| 12:22.00 | pinotree | sredna: ^^^ |
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| 12:23.02 | ilj | doood |
| 12:23.11 | pinotree | ilj: stop that, please |
| 12:23.20 | Jucato | ./me wonders what's up with ilj |
| 12:23.34 | Jucato | he isn't usually like this... |
| 12:23.41 | Jucato | ok why did I just execute me? :) |
| 12:23.44 | ilj | lol |
| 12:23.46 | ilj | sorry guys |
| 12:24.00 | ilj | i'm testing triggers.pl |
| 12:24.14 | Jucato | not good to test in here :) |
| 12:24.36 | ilj | seems like i need to specify in what channel to say "dood" exactly :) |
| 12:24.39 | ilj | yep |
| 12:24.45 | ilj | i didn't do that on purpose |
| 12:24.53 | ilj | so please accept my appologies |
| 12:25.33 | Jucato | ilj: apologize to pinotree :) |
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| 12:26.00 | ilj | ? |
| 12:26.04 | ilj | wtf |
| 12:26.11 | ilj | ok |
| 12:26.15 | ilj | leaving the server.. |
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| 13:08.48 | g-hennux | hi! |
| 13:09.12 | g-hennux | why isn't kile properly translated into german yet? |
| 13:09.44 | g-hennux | i once had my kile in german, i know i had to compile some file and then copy it somewhere and stuff, why isn't this in the main distribution tree? |
| 13:09.45 | mark_alec | because you haven't finished it ;) |
| 13:10.21 | g-hennux | mark_alec: ok, you're right, 'why' would be a silly question if no one had translated it, but i know there is a translation existing |
| 13:10.32 | annma | g-hennux: maybe there was an update |
| 13:10.38 | annma | is kile in KDE svn? |
| 13:10.43 | annma | what module is it in? |
| 13:11.36 | g-hennux | annma: oh, no idea, i just used the kubuntu repo, but same was on gentoo. |
| 13:12.19 | Jucato | annma: extragear |
| 13:12.43 | annma | extragear,hmm |
| 13:13.08 | Jucato | hi annma! :) |
| 13:13.15 | Jucato | (again) |
| 13:13.17 | juc0 | Hey, i've downloaded the package mtaskbar. How do I go about using it? |
| 13:13.23 | annma | hi Jucato :)) |
| 13:13.42 | annma | what package juc0? |
| 13:13.54 | juc0 | 'mtaskbar' |
| 13:14.01 | annma | where? |
| 13:14.08 | annma | what do yo call a "package"? |
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| 13:14.50 | annma | Jucato: do you know what extragear? |
| 13:15.11 | Jucato | 3 |
| 13:15.14 | Sho_ | annma: office |
| 13:15.15 | juc0 | ah, not to worry. Just saw a screenshot of it, and it looks lame anyway :P |
| 13:15.20 | annma | extragear-office, got it |
| 13:15.58 | Jucato | ah ok |
| 13:16.02 | annma | the triunk one seems OK g-hennux |
| 13:16.11 | Jucato | "which extragear section"... ok got that :) |
| 13:16.11 | annma | g-hennux: is it the GUI that is not translated? |
| 13:16.14 | annma | or the doc? |
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| 13:18.18 | g-hennux | annma: the gui |
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| 13:19.13 | Jucato | juc0, annma: mtaskbar (a.k.a. Taskbar v2) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Taskbar+v2?content=31611 |
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| 13:19.30 | Jucato | juc0: you use it by adding it to the Panel. it's a panel applet like your normal Taskbar |
| 13:19.39 | smileaf | kinda odd.. with 3.5.8 kicker isn't starting with kde anymore. |
| 13:19.45 | Jucato | (it's actually nice if it weren't crashy or buggy...) |
| 13:19.51 | annma | g-hennux: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/de/extragear-office/index.php |
| 13:20.02 | annma | g-hennux: seems translated |
| 13:20.33 | g-hennux | annma: ok, beat me, for some reason, there is a separate kile-i18n package on kubuntu |
| 13:20.50 | Jucato | :) |
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| 13:23.57 | g-hennux | and another thing that's funny (i.e. a bug). if i create a completion file for kile, it only works if i put it in /usr/share/apps/kile/complete/tex/, from any other folder, i get a message box popping up saying: "Have you changed the directory?" (??) |
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| 13:25.17 | Jucato | smileaf: btw, if you dig lolcats, you might find this amusing: http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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| 14:00.51 | bjwebb | is there a shortuct to type a unicode character? |
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| 14:02.50 | superstoned_ | kaminix: I have the same copy/paste problems. Copy often doesn't work. Only on Kubuntu, no problem on archlinux. And it has been a problem for a while, too. |
| 14:03.06 | smileaf | Jucato: why does having a legacy and non-legacy cards have to suck so badly? :'( .. lol |
| 14:03.17 | Jucato | :) |
| 14:03.42 | Sho_ | bjwebb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key |
| 14:03.57 | smileaf | trying to do a dual-monitor display, and I have a legacy nvidia card, and a non-legacy nvidia card. and you can't have both drivers install *cries* |
| 14:04.12 | smileaf | Oh! can try using 'nv' |
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| 14:04.58 | kaminix | superstoned_: Pastebin as in pastebin.com I mean. Is that what you are referring to as well? |
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| 14:05.58 | bjwebb | Sho_: so there's nothing built into kde like the alt+numbers in windows? |
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| 14:06.04 | cee | hello, i have a problem with ktorrent, it only shows the statistic plugin.. i have tried to delete the apps and config files. Anyone have a suggestion? |
| 14:06.17 | Jucato | bjwebb: that's what the compose key is for, and more "natural" |
| 14:06.18 | smileaf | Woo! it worked! |
| 14:06.33 | smileaf | But that is really weird. does kde start a separate kicker/kdesktop per screen or something? |
| 14:07.11 | smileaf | Oh, I don't have xinerama.. ha ha... *hangs head* |
| 14:07.12 | bjwebb | Jucato: okay, and i guess i could set that to be one of my other keys |
| 14:07.25 | Jucato | bjwebb: usually people use the right-alt key |
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| 14:08.42 | smileaf | ;.; 100 packages to recompile. |
| 14:08.59 | bjwebb | Jucato: rite |
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| 14:09.43 | bjwebb | right alt and keys does certain characters already |
| 14:09.56 | bjwebb | how do i konfigure that to work for unicode sequences? |
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| 14:21.03 | AstroGirl | Hi everyone, I can't see .gif files on web pages using Konqueror. How would I fix that? |
| 14:21.17 | swanfl | can I get help with kde4 beta3? |
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| 14:21.37 | Jucato | AstroGirl: what distro? |
| 14:21.49 | AstroGirl | Gentoo... prolly should ask there, no? |
| 14:22.13 | Jucato | AstroGirl: yeah. but I have one guess already. you didn't emerge Qt w/ GIF support |
| 14:22.52 | AstroGirl | Sounds like a good guess, Jucato. I'll look into that. |
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| 14:23.52 | [GALAXY] | or using a proper distro might help ? |
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| 14:24.03 | [GALAXY] | there you dont need to worry about emerging gif support :) |
| 14:24.05 | [GALAXY] | it just works |
| 14:24.13 | AstroGirl | But thats so boring. :p |
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| 14:25.14 | pinotree | trying to fix up a broken instalation is boring as well, isn't it? |
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| 14:25.29 | AstroGirl | compiling is fun! |
| 14:25.46 | pinotree | having a broken is system as well, i presume? |
| 14:25.56 | AstroGirl | not really "broken" just new. |
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| 14:26.25 | AstroGirl | There's a sence of satisfaction in getting ALSA working. Getting X working. Getting KDE working. It's been great so far. |
| 14:26.43 | AstroGirl | I've got distro's that "just work" on the other partitions. |
| 14:26.47 | picca | AstroGirl: you should try linuxfromscratch |
| 14:27.04 | smileaf | Mmm.. LFS is kinda fun. |
| 14:27.18 | Jucato | learning how to fix broken stuff is a rewarding experience, even if it's not outrightly fun |
| 14:27.18 | AstroGirl | picca: maybe after I've mastered Gentoo. ;) |
| 14:27.48 | picca | LFS is my fav |
| 14:28.13 | picca | AstroGirl: i have not tried Gentoo, but do refer to their documentation from time to time |
| 14:28.18 | smileaf | picca: you use a package manager for your LFS? |
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| 14:28.51 | picca | smileaf: no, if i want to uninstall i simply build the source into /test as a prefix then remove the files from / |
| 14:28.58 | vdv | hi all |
| 14:29.01 | AstroGirl | picca: I came from PC-BSD, which is kinda similar in some ways. I can see why someone would enjoy LFS. |
| 14:29.06 | bjwebb | compose key isn't working properly :S |
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| 14:29.34 | vdv | 'setup permissions' in k3b doesn't work |
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| 14:30.30 | picca | AstroGirl: the first time i built LFS i found it a bit scary, but i've done it quite a few times now and things get built pretty quickly - it is worth having a look at. Interested to see what you think of PC-BSD |
| 14:30.50 | bastel | hallo @ all |
| 14:31.39 | bastel | hab ein problem habe in der design verwaltungrumgefuscht und nun ist jede zweite zeile in amarok und ark schwarz |
| 14:31.53 | bastel | wie / wo lässt sich das beheben?? |
| 14:31.53 | smileaf | bastel: can we have that in english please? =) |
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| 14:32.14 | AstroGirl | picca: loved PC-BSD. Would still be with it now if it wasn't for lack of support for some devices (tv card thats unusual and an ATI card). It's stable and clean and small. :) |
| 14:32.30 | bastel | smileaf: puhhhh........ |
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| 14:33.22 | picca | AstroGirl: i like what i read about PC-BSD, but have not bothered to try because flash player isn't supported ... well to my knowledge it isn't, but could be wrong |
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| 14:34.28 | AstroGirl | picca: you're right about flash. I think 7 is suppose to be supported now, but it was still buggy. No-one wants to support BSD.. makes things tough. It's a shame, it really is. Such a nice OS. |
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| 14:36.01 | smileaf | each bsd seems to have their own tweaks. |
| 14:36.17 | picca | AstroGirl: they probably use gnash to get version 7 support .. that is one project i really hope takes off and implements version 9 swf... i agree with you about BSD, i use to use FreeBSD 4.x many years ago and loved it |
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| 14:38.04 | Sho_ | bjwebb: You can set what key to use as Compose key in KControl's keyboard options; I use the right Win key for example, since I don't need it for anything else |
| 14:38.17 | AstroGirl | picca: I think they're hoping to get flash9 support in 1.5 - that'll be a nice release if 1.4 was anything to go by. I've still got it installed on my second partition, I'm keeping it, too. :) |
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| 14:40.09 | smileaf | heh.. thats kinda interesting, I have a hidden panel on screen1, but If I'm on screen2 and I go to the same section that unhides the panel on screen1, it'll unhide it and do the tool-tip thing If I'm over a button. |
| 14:40.35 | Jucato | the joys of having 2 video cards and 2 monitors |
| 14:40.37 | smileaf | well.. "over a button" as its not |
| 14:41.02 | smileaf | IGP? |
| 14:41.05 | smileaf | Oh |
| 14:41.08 | Jucato | integrated |
| 14:41.23 | smileaf | I'm using a PCI and PCI-e =) |
| 14:41.37 | Jucato | I think PCI + AGP would work... but I have no PCI (yet) |
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| 14:42.17 | smileaf | I forgot how much space is taken up by CRT monitors.. |
| 14:42.21 | picca | AstroGirl: once they get that supported i will give it a go .. actually tempting to try it now. I read it has good wireless support as well |
| 14:42.40 | mebitek | hi how i can upgrade kde??? |
| 14:42.48 | smileaf | mebitek: what distribution do you run? |
| 14:42.54 | pinotree | mebitek: please ask in the channel of your distro |
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| 14:43.15 | mebitek | gentoo |
| 14:43.21 | smileaf | mebitek: #gentoo |
| 14:43.22 | Jucato | #gentoo-kde please |
| 14:43.25 | mebitek | oks |
| 14:43.26 | pinotree | then #gentoo-kde please |
| 14:43.30 | bjwebb | hmmm |
| 14:43.31 | mebitek | excuse... |
| 14:43.31 | Jucato | outvoted :) |
| 14:43.35 | mebitek | exit |
| 14:43.40 | bjwebb | compose key works |
| 14:43.49 | bjwebb | how can i get it to function for unicode characters? |
| 14:43.50 | smileaf | pinotree: Hello! |
| 14:43.54 | pinotree | hi |
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| 14:45.05 | smileaf | kinda wish the composite key worked with scim :/ |
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| 14:45.59 | AstroGirl | picca: wouldn't know about the wireless.. but KDE is very stable and sweet looking on PC-BSD. Lots of reading and learning, its interesting. And of course, compiling. :) |
| 14:46.02 | smileaf | compose* |
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| 14:49.18 | litb | hello all |
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| 14:50.25 | litb | aseigo: we could make it another way: if the user presses middle mouse button, the submenu is indented ICONSIZE_X pixel from the left, but other menus are still visible. if the user presses the middle mouse button again, the submenu is collapsed again |
| 14:50.35 | litb | similar to a tree control |
| 14:51.04 | superstoned_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.07 | litb | or, for the sake of fewer clicks, we could expand it when the user moves the mouse to far to the right arrow |
| 14:51.08 | picca | AstroGirl: good luck with your compiling .. you will certainly feel in control of your system knowing you've compiled everything yourself |
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| 14:51.23 | picca | and you learn so much from it all |
| 14:51.44 | kaminix | superstoned_: Heh, nope, no problem with that :) |
| 14:51.50 | superstoned_ | ok ;-) |
| 14:54.25 | AstroGirl | picca: thanks - its been good so far. Kernel was scary, but it's all custom and fast now, so its all worthwhile.. or at least, it will be when its done. ;) |
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| 14:57.43 | superstoned_ | luislo: the awn issue most likely isn't a KDE thing, at least I wouldn't know how that could be. AWN is rather new and pretty buggy, guess it's just a bug in there. |
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| 14:58.58 | litb | luislo: what awn issue? |
| 14:59.05 | litb | i had issue with it too |
| 14:59.09 | litb | draggingn doesn't work? |
| 15:00.04 | bjwebb | can anyone help me sort out unicode shortcuts? |
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| 15:32.35 | Diavolo | is there anybody that could help me with getting my mda synced on kde? |
| 15:32.41 | yahya__ | not me |
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| 15:33.35 | LinuxMafia | hi |
| 15:33.36 | LinuxMafia | all |
| 15:33.43 | LinuxMafia | all : what do i have to use for using an ipod ? |
| 15:33.55 | LinuxMafia | i installed ipodslave |
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| 15:34.17 | yahya__ | i am new, and i cant find help here LinuxMafia although i have been trying for 4 days now |
| 15:34.27 | yahya__ | how to define startup programs? |
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| 15:35.14 | LinuxMafia | yahya__, there is a file you edit , i forgot , autostart or something |
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| 15:35.59 | yahya__ | it is a directory: .kde/Autostart |
| 15:36.06 | yahya__ | but i dont know what to write in it :S |
| 15:36.33 | pag | yahya__, " ln -s /usr/bin/TheNameOfTheProgramm /home/YourUser/.kde/Autostart/ " |
| 15:36.34 | LinuxMafia | yahya__, i did it once |
| 15:36.52 | LinuxMafia | yahya__, pag is right |
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| 15:37.16 | Jucato | yahya__: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2559866 |
| 15:37.42 | yahya__ | thank you both pag and Jucato, finally i got some help :) |
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| 15:47.51 | litb | yahya__: =) |
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| 15:48.28 | litb | yahya__: however, if you only want to set a environment variable, ~/.kde/env is what you look for |
| 15:49.03 | yahya__ | litb, :) |
| 15:49.26 | yahya__ | i am sick of starting knetworkmanager manually everytime i login :P |
| 15:49.46 | litb | ah, i see =) |
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| 15:51.19 | litb | yahya__: of anywhere in time you get sick of using networkmanager, you are free to use my wlan script: http://rafb.net/p/ODLu0H75.html |
| 15:52.16 | yahya__ | looking at it litb :) |
| 15:52.31 | yahya__ | nice script |
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| 15:57.51 | litb | it only needs to edited on one place (where you have to replace "wext" with the right driver for your interface) |
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| 16:50.42 | idem | afd_ > KMail+SpamAssassin ? |
| 16:51.18 | afd_ | idem: I couldn't find any good recipe... do you know one? |
| 16:52.04 | idem | KMail has a wizard to easily add a filter that call spamassassin on received mail |
| 16:52.19 | afd_ | idem: ok, thanks, I'll look for it |
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| 17:09.24 | zerwas | Can anybody tell me where i can find the wallpaper of KDE 4 Beta 3? |
| 17:10.18 | zerwas | i mean the flower |
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| 17:16.22 | logixoul | zerwas: use the last commit digest to find out where it was committed to |
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| 17:16.41 | teepee | hi guys ... |
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| 17:19.49 | zerwas | logixoul, sorry but i don't understand that |
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| 17:21.32 | logixoul | zerwas: first step: use google to learn what "commit digest" means |
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| 17:21.42 | zerwas | done. |
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| 17:22.06 | logixoul | zerwas: go to the site you just found and read the last issue (from a week ago) |
| 17:22.28 | logixoul | zerwas: Ctrl+F to open the find dialog and write "wallpaper" |
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| 17:23.28 | logixoul | zerwas: this should get you to the relevant "commit". in other words, it will take you to the particular place and time where the wallpaper change happened. |
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| 17:24.10 | logixoul | zerwas: then try to get into the web interface (which you can open in the web browser) of the svn repository (this is the place where KDE developers keep their stuff) |
| 17:24.11 | zerwas | logixoul, thank you very much. So it should be this page http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktoptheme/widgets/wallpaper.svg/ |
| 17:24.43 | logixoul | yeah. and now click "download" for the latest (top-most) revision |
| 17:25.20 | zerwas | wow, didn't assume it is a SVG... |
| 17:25.24 | logixoul | it's not ;) |
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| 17:25.31 | logixoul | it's a pixmap embedded in a svg |
| 17:25.38 | zerwas | ah ok |
| 17:25.52 | zerwas | i searched everything for PNG. That's why i haven't found it |
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| 17:26.08 | logixoul | ;) |
| 17:26.25 | zerwas | ok let me say that again: thank you very much :-) |
| 17:26.36 | logixoul | hehe :) |
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| 18:37.37 | linuksamiko | are there more packages required to compile kde then the packages mantioned in the documentation? |
| 18:38.16 | linuksamiko | I have quite alot of missing dependencies in security-stuff for kdesupport |
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| 18:44.01 | maki_ | i can't open kde-look.org |
| 18:44.39 | logixoul | OMG me neither! everyone run for your lives! |
| 18:45.05 | MinceR | me neither |
| 18:45.10 | MinceR | though it does reply to ping |
| 18:45.27 | logixoul | the dot just moved to new hardware, this might be related |
| 18:45.52 | maki_ | ok |
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| 19:04.18 | mxttie | hello, what happened to kdetv? |
| 19:04.29 | mxttie | I don't find it in kde svn anymore and the website seems down? |
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| 19:12.47 | feindbild | mxttie: I have no idea ... but kaffeine might be an alternative |
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| 19:13.42 | logixoul | kdetv? is that like radio amarok? Konqui leading fair and balanced debates? :D |
| 19:13.42 | mxttie | do you mean the dvb plugin? |
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| 19:15.14 | feindbild | mxttie: yes |
| 19:15.22 | mxttie | mm, i have analog.. :/ |
| 19:15.39 | feindbild | mxttie: oh ... ok =/ |
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| 19:16.01 | feindbild | mxttie: I have no idea what you need for that ... |
| 19:16.14 | pregopresto | hi, is there a kdepim channel as well? |
| 19:16.20 | mxttie | well, I used to use kdetv, which works fine with bttv cards |
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| 19:16.30 | mxttie | but now I have an mpeg card, which kinda sucks it seems ;) |
| 19:16.36 | mxttie | I don't want myth |
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| 19:18.56 | g-hennux | hi! |
| 19:19.00 | feindbild | mxttie: freetv maybe? |
| 19:19.23 | g-hennux | while playing music with amarok, i cannot receive email notifications (audio file played) from kmail |
| 19:19.38 | mxttie | you mean freevo? |
| 19:19.46 | feindbild | mxttie: yes ^^ |
| 19:19.49 | mxttie | :) |
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| 19:19.57 | feindbild | thats what freevo uses for tv playback |
| 19:19.58 | mxttie | I yet have to check that one out |
| 19:20.02 | mxttie | ah, ok |
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| 19:20.11 | mxttie | oh yes, now i remember |
| 19:20.15 | mxttie | nasty xmltv dependcy |
| 19:20.20 | mxttie | I failed to install that... |
| 19:20.27 | feindbild | mxttie: distri? |
| 19:20.31 | mxttie | suse 10.3 |
| 19:20.38 | feindbild | should have packages ... |
| 19:21.03 | mxttie | maybe some external rep.. |
| 19:21.05 | logixoul | g-hennux: see if kmail outputs anything on the commandline when it receives email |
| 19:21.41 | g-hennux | logixoul: i suppose it's simply that any audio device is blocked. same for audio notifications from kopete |
| 19:21.50 | g-hennux | logixoul: wait a sec, i'll check |
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| 19:22.42 | g-hennux | logixoul: it seems as if kmail detaches from the terminal, i get a new command prompt and only few output |
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| 19:23.27 | g-hennux | ah, i see, massages still come to the console, but nothing about the audio thingy |
| 19:26.08 | logixoul | g-hennux: are you using the xine backend |
| 19:26.10 | logixoul | for amarok |
| 19:26.33 | g-hennux | logixoul: yes |
| 19:26.47 | g-hennux | logixoul: using device 'default' |
| 19:28.24 | logixoul | g-hennux: the only "certain" fix I know offhand is setting your knotify to use some commandline player thing (picoxine, sox, mplayer...) rather than arts for sounds. |
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| 19:29.07 | logixoul | for this purpose, you go kcontrol->sound&multimedia->system notifs->player settings->external |
| 19:29.34 | logixoul | if you don't like that, go ask in #amarok :p |
| 19:30.03 | logixoul | i think the main problem is that you have a crappy sound card that doesn't support dmix or something |
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| 19:30.24 | KDEusr | anyone know where i can find a guide to compile kde4? |
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| 19:30.38 | logixoul | KDEusr: http://techbase.kde.org |
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| 19:31.28 | cash | Hi |
| 19:31.42 | cash | help me please ! I have issue=( |
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| 19:32.02 | g-hennux | logixoul: when i say system notifs, where is "player settings"? |
| 19:32.08 | cash | Anyone can help me ? |
| 19:33.06 | g-hennux | logixoul: oh, stupid me... :-) |
| 19:33.15 | logixoul | cash: just ask the damn question... |
| 19:33.15 | cash | please =(( |
| 19:33.22 | cash | After update from 7.04 to 7.10 - knetwork doesent show me Wlan networks - and icon (connection established) is always active - in the case - when Im offline too .And after connect to the inet in office ,when I homeI need many times set cable in my Lan card =(( |
| 19:33.36 | KDEusr | i cant understand what that sites talkin about |
| 19:33.41 | logixoul | g-hennux: well it's not exactly discoverable :p |
| 19:33.46 | KDEusr | im pretty new to compiling |
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| 19:34.09 | logixoul | KDEusr: do you want to help with KDE development? |
| 19:34.20 | KDEusr | yes |
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| 19:34.25 | g-hennux | logixoul: the thing is, i had picoxine set there because i had the same problem in gentoo. but here now i didn't have picoxine installed :-) |
| 19:34.31 | logixoul | KDEusr: go to #kde4-devel then |
| 19:34.45 | logixoul | g-hennux: omg :D |
| 19:34.46 | g-hennux | logixoul: picoxine isn't available for kubuntu, any other tiny player available you'd recommend? |
| 19:35.04 | cash | No one cant helpme ? =( |
| 19:35.06 | logixoul | picoxine is available for anything up to a dead badger. just compile it ;) |
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| 19:35.15 | logixoul | otherwise, probably sox |
| 19:35.17 | pinotree | cash: be patient, pleae |
| 19:36.33 | cash | pinotree sorry . it is not first day and not first chanel where I find solution ,im tired =( |
| 19:38.15 | cash | so,today as i see it is too will not be solved |
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| 19:41.06 | cash | helppp )SOS |
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| 19:41.26 | Fleck | kde-look.org down/ |
| 19:41.29 | logixoul | yes |
| 19:41.37 | Fleck | for along time? |
| 19:41.43 | logixoul | hours |
| 19:41.54 | Fleck | ok thanks |
| 19:43.34 | g-hennux | logixoul: kde-apps is down *right now* for downloading picoxine... |
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| 19:45.01 | Fleck | btw i don't whant to register to kde debug - but i know something, that's there a long time allready and not yet resolved (even in 3.5.8) |
| 19:45.05 | logixoul | g-hennux: give it a night's sleep and I'm sure the server will be back. |
| 19:45.14 | g-hennux | yep, probably |
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| 19:46.04 | Fleck | + |
| 19:46.12 | Fleck | (sorry) |
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| 19:46.45 | cash | http://rafb.net/p/ZMTK1u55.html |
| 19:46.48 | cash | please look |
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| 19:47.55 | user__ | hello |
| 19:48.10 | cash | hi) |
| 19:48.28 | pregopresto | i need some help with kmail / korganizer and its imap-resource stuff, after my upgrade to 3.5.8 my calendar is gone, kmail doesn't seem to handle the imap groupware folders right anymore |
| 19:48.34 | pregopresto | can anybody help me? |
| 19:48.47 | logixoul | pregopresto: you'd better ask in #kontact |
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| 19:49.47 | logixoul | pregopresto: but in any case, backup ~/.kde immediately -- maybe there's still chance to salvage something |
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| 19:50.56 | pregopresto | logixoul: thanks! |
| 19:51.09 | logixoul | np |
| 19:52.54 | annma | logixoul: all bugs in KHangMan are tackled except painting |
| 19:53.28 | annma | I'll put someone on it as I cannot find the problem |
| 19:53.29 | logixoul | annma: well, I didn't test KHangMan, but still good to hear :) |
| 19:53.34 | annma | oh |
| 19:53.36 | annma | ;) |
| 19:53.41 | logixoul | I tested marble |
| 19:53.41 | annma | I thought you did |
| 19:53.49 | annma | ah ;) |
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| 19:54.06 | annma | anyway, this was to show how testers advice matter |
| 19:54.17 | logixoul | nice |
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| 19:56.59 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 19:57.13 | Ace2016 | is kde look down? |
| 19:57.19 | cash | нуы |
| 19:57.21 | cash | yes |
| 19:57.45 | Ace2016 | :( i need a new beryl theme |
| 19:57.49 | Ace2016 | i mean compiz fusion theme |
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| 19:57.55 | Ace2016 | so used to saying beryl |
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| 20:12.59 | Ace2016 | Anyone know why kde-look is down or when it'll be back? |
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| 20:16.52 | ssokolow | AmyRose: Y'know, now that I think about it, a Python-based KDE4 WinDeco (if possible) may not be so inefficient after all. Most of the work would be done in C++ code wrapped by PyQt. |
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| 20:18.28 | ssokolow | ...and, with KDE4 decos, a lot of the glitz will probably use ARGB visuals to achieve visually-pleasing effects. That kind of thing would offload the compositing onto the video drivers. |
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| 20:20.44 | dynast | Hello. How can I start the screensaver (not the screensaver conf. dialog, just the actual screensaver) from the console? What would be the command for this? |
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| 20:23.38 | kirun | dynast: dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface save |
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| 20:24.09 | AmyRose | ssokolow: Yeah, maybe that's true |
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| 20:24.38 | ssokolow | dynast: Do you want to lock the screen or just turn on the screensaver? |
| 20:25.13 | ssokolow | (Same thing, one just requires a password to exit the screensaver) |
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| 20:26.05 | lnxnt | Hello |
| 20:26.08 | lnxnt | I have a skype problem. It's running but invisible |
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| 20:26.48 | ssokolow | lnxnt: First, this isn't a skype channel. Second, since I'm feeling bored anyway, how did you get into that situation? |
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| 20:28.14 | ssokolow | lnxnt: ...because I can't suggest a solution until I know more about the problem. |
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| 20:29.43 | ssokolow | If dynast comes back and I'm not around, please pass on the message that the command for activating the screensaver without locking the screen is `dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface save` and to lock it, just replace "save" with "lock". |
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| 20:33.23 | lnxnt | ssokolow: I don't know how I got into that situation. It just happened after boot |
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| 20:33.58 | lnxnt | ssokolow: But the same thing happens if I kill skype, restart it. I hear skype starting, I get popup messages if someone joins or leaves |
| 20:34.06 | lnxnt | ssokolow: but the gui is missing |
| 20:34.20 | lnxnt | ssokolow: I have multipe desktops - checked them all |
| 20:34.27 | lnxnt | ssokolow: it's nowhere |
| 20:34.44 | lnxnt | another thing is the text in help:/kcontrol/desktop/index.html in KDE Help Center doesn't fit on my screen but it's not possible to reduce the width of the toc on the left or close toc. there is no horizontal bar to scroll the text either |
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| 20:35.27 | lnxnt | and I have a firefox problem: the text is far this much big that all layout of websites just crambles |
| 20:35.40 | lnxnt | in one profile but not in another one. |
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| 20:38.24 | ssokolow | lnxnt: Sounds like you do have a KDE problem, but it's one I'm not sure I can help you with. What's your screen resolution? |
| 20:40.15 | ssokolow | I'd suggest just copy-pasting this command into your IRC client. --> /exec -o xdpyinfo | egrep 'dimensions|resolution' |
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| 20:41.06 | klausade | i'd like to empty my trashbin automatically when I log out. Short of rm, is there some other proper way? I see ktrash, but thats a gui thing. |
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| 20:43.04 | JacobSingh | I just checked out a kde app (ktimetracker) from svn, but i can't figure out how to compile it, could someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 20:44.16 | lnxnt | ssokolow: 1024x768 |
| 20:44.52 | ssokolow | lnxnt: And your DPI? (The command I gave you would also show that) |
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| 20:45.19 | DanDart | I have a rt61 card and Knetworkmanager keeps disconnecting me... why could this be? |
| 20:45.27 | Sho_ | ssokolow: "/exec -o" isn't universal to all IRC clients |
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| 20:46.17 | litb | huhu |
| 20:46.56 | lnxnt | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.56 | lnxnt | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.19 | ssokolow | Sho_: No, but it's common enough that it's easier to to try and fail. |
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| 20:48.01 | Sho_ | ssokolow: In KDE's most prominent IRC client it would be "/cmd xdpyinfo | egrep 'dimensions|resolution'" or "/exec cmd xdpyinfo | egrep 'dimensions|resolution'" |
| 20:48.24 | ssokolow | lnxnt: Hmm. Looks right. When you say "in one profile but not the other", are you talking about Firefox profiles or KDE user accounts. |
| 20:48.36 | lnxnt | ssokolow: firefox profiles |
| 20:49.29 | ssokolow | lnxnt: Have you checked the font settings in the firefox preferences dialog? |
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| 20:52.32 | noteventime | Hullo |
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| 20:52.56 | ssokolow | lnxnt: If not, compare them between the working profile and the messed-up one. |
| 20:53.00 | lnxnt | ssokolow: ah yes, I had minimal font size set to 17 |
| 20:53.15 | lnxnt | ssokolow: I corrected that and the oversized font is gone, thanks |
| 20:53.16 | noteventime | Does anyone know about a working revision of kdesupport or where I can get my hands on a working tarball? |
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| 20:53.37 | noteventime | The one in subversion just keeps dieing on me |
| 20:53.50 | smileaf | noteventime: what error? |
| 20:53.55 | noteventime | smileaf: None |
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| 20:54.03 | smileaf | ... |
| 20:54.04 | noteventime | It just says cmake error |
| 20:54.05 | noteventime | and stops |
| 20:54.13 | ssokolow | lnxnt: As for your font-sizing problem with the KDE help system, I'd suggest starting by double-checking your KControl font settings. |
| 20:54.13 | smileaf | clean build dir? |
| 20:54.17 | noteventime | smileaf: Yes |
| 20:54.23 | smileaf | noteventime: separate build directory? |
| 20:54.46 | noteventime | smileaf: Nope, I figured I shouldn't any more |
| 20:54.49 | lnxnt | ssokolow: where can I check that? |
| 20:54.55 | noteventime | As the tutorial has stopped suggesting it |
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| 20:55.13 | ssokolow | lnxnt: Control Center --> Appearance & Themes --> Fonts |
| 20:55.30 | smileaf | noteventime: last I heard that was the way to do it. in fact it was enforced at one time. |
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| 20:56.02 | noteventime | smileaf: Yes, I know. I used to too, but I figured it wasn't recommended any more, so I didn't |
| 20:56.07 | ssokolow | lnxnt: Once you've confirmed that those are correct, check the "Configure Fonts..." dialog in the Settings menu in the KDE Help Center. |
| 20:56.10 | noteventime | I just read the build instructions |
| 20:56.40 | smileaf | noteventime: just did a svn up, working great. |
| 20:56.44 | noteventime | Hmm |
| 20:56.51 | noteventime | I'll try in a separate build directory then |
| 20:57.16 | smileaf | strigi has a compile error tho =) |
| 20:57.28 | noteventime | smileaf: At first it worked when I kept rerunning cmake |
| 20:57.48 | noteventime | When I disabled cppunit it stopped complaining |
| 20:58.01 | noteventime | But then it stopped working when I got to installing instead |
| 20:58.34 | smileaf | noteventime: this is actually more suited for #kde4-devel |
| 20:58.43 | noteventime | Ohh |
| 20:58.50 | noteventime | I'll go there if I have any more questions :-) |
| 20:58.57 | noteventime | I'll check if this works first |
| 20:59.06 | smileaf | noteventime: they'll probably be a better help than me ;) |
| 20:59.17 | maki | anyone knows where can i find a grey kicker background as in the kde4 mockup from everaldo? |
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| 20:59.24 | noteventime | smileaf: If this works, you've been as good as help as anyone can be ;-) |
| 20:59.41 | kantor | hi, I have kopete 0.12.7, and I have for instance 20 users online normally but in kopete are only 13 buddy's online, is that a bug ?? |
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| 21:00.38 | smileaf | kantor: so in the group it says you have 20/whatever but when you count it, its only 13? |
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| 21:01.38 | kantor | smileaf, no, with pidgin I have 20 for instance and when I swap to kopete , kopete shows only about 13, 14 users online |
| 21:02.35 | holycow | guys |
| 21:02.39 | holycow | kde4 is rockin |
| 21:02.42 | holycow | i'm loving what i see |
| 21:03.03 | smileaf | kantor: you haven't put contacts together have you? like multiple accounts per person? |
| 21:03.08 | holycow | haven't had a chance to dig into beta3 terribly much but it looks pretty darn cool so far |
| 21:03.19 | maki | why kde-look is down :( |
| 21:03.41 | holycow | the on by default compositing is a cool thing too, that will work on pretty much most boxen that are 4 years or younger too |
| 21:03.45 | litb | why is kde-look down :( |
| 21:03.48 | litb | ^^ |
| 21:03.58 | holycow | litb: it happens, its the web |
| 21:04.06 | holycow | servers have upgrade requirements as well |
| 21:04.09 | smileaf | cuz it is. |
| 21:04.09 | mxttie | it was feeling sick a bit |
| 21:04.19 | litb | cowsay rulez |
| 21:04.26 | litb | is there a kcowsay ? |
| 21:04.37 | litb | kowsay ^^ |
| 21:04.58 | kantor | smileaf, no |
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| 21:06.06 | smileaf | kantor: might try asking in #kopete see if there is anything known or something. |
| 21:06.16 | kantor | ok, thanks |
| 21:06.35 | kantor | smileaf, what kind of a version ar you using ? (kopete) |
| 21:06.36 | lnxnt | ssokolow: ok, set min and medium font size 12 like in control center-> fonts |
| 21:06.47 | smileaf | kantor: 0.12.7 |
| 21:06.49 | lnxnt | ssokolow: its better but didn't solve entirely |
| 21:07.05 | kantor | smileaf, and all is fine with your buddy list ? |
| 21:07.19 | lnxnt | ssokolow: at least, shouldn't there be a horizontal bar ? |
| 21:07.27 | ssokolow | lnxnt: Then I'm out of options. I've never mucked things up in that way, so I've never needed to learn how to fix them. |
| 21:07.55 | smileaf | kantor: yep |
| 21:08.23 | lnxnt | ssokolow: ok. Thanks anyway |
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| 21:10.05 | tuxman | hi there |
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| 21:11.20 | tuxman | Is there a way to use the spellchecker of kde on a single word? like right-clicking on the word and looking at a suggestion panel. It seems that gnome spell-checker has something like that. With kde I only managed to check the whole text everytime |
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| 21:11.54 | tuxman | that's not so handy... have they changed it in kde4? |
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| 21:15.51 | Diavolo | Hi |
| 21:15.56 | Diavolo | who uses kitchensync? |
| 21:16.13 | smileaf | ugh... long shot (probably extremely long) anyone have the source tarball for the serenity style? can only seem to find links to kde-look (which is down) |
| 21:16.53 | holycow | smileaf: is that the kde4 style for the widgets? |
| 21:16.55 | smileaf | ah! found it... nevermind =) |
| 21:17.00 | smileaf | nope |
| 21:17.08 | holycow | because if it is, imho that should be the theme for the whole thing |
| 21:17.10 | holycow | :) |
| 21:17.13 | smileaf | http://maxilys.ifastnet.com/ |
| 21:17.40 | holycow | canke |
| 21:17.42 | smileaf | very good style IMO |
| 21:17.43 | holycow | danke |
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| 21:55.40 | smileaf | It is possible to move a window from 1 monitor to the other isn't it? |
| 21:57.31 | smileaf | maximizing on the smaller display seems broken too. its like its using the width from the larger display. height is Ok tho. |
| 21:58.22 | sabgenton | you can run 1 deskop on on monitor and another on the other |
| 21:58.43 | sabgenton | an change it |
| 21:58.49 | sabgenton | etc |
| 21:58.57 | smileaf | I can see that. but there is no way for them to cooperate? |
| 21:59.00 | sabgenton | haven't done it my self |
| 21:59.17 | sabgenton | do u want the same on both? |
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| 21:59.22 | smileaf | I feel like I have different computers over a smarter kvm switch. |
| 21:59.36 | mxttie | lol |
| 21:59.41 | smileaf | I want to be able to drag 1 window from 1 monitor to the other. |
| 21:59.47 | mxttie | but you can just drag your windows, no? |
| 21:59.50 | sabgenton | oh |
| 21:59.52 | smileaf | alt+tab between both monitor's windows |
| 21:59.53 | mxttie | you can enable that |
| 22:00.04 | smileaf | How? =) |
| 22:00.12 | mxttie | looking up ;) |
| 22:00.18 | mxttie | i did it here |
| 22:00.41 | smileaf | last time I did this was probably 4-5 years ago. :S |
| 22:01.25 | mxttie | smileaf, active desktop borders! |
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| 22:01.39 | mxttie | open kde control center |
| 22:01.42 | mxttie | and search for that |
| 22:02.01 | mxttie | ok, the search doesnt work =) |
| 22:02.18 | smileaf | umm.. not quite what I was looking for. |
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| 22:02.24 | mxttie | desktop-> window behavior-> advanced |
| 22:02.25 | smileaf | that swaps virtual desktops |
| 22:02.37 | mxttie | you can drag a window like that |
| 22:02.47 | smileaf | yep, between virtual desktops.. not monitors :( |
| 22:02.54 | mxttie | euhm , i'm lost, okay :) |
| 22:03.01 | smileaf | :( |
| 22:03.05 | mxttie | you don't want another desktop on your other montior? |
| 22:03.18 | mxttie | then your second monitor is a mirror of your first? |
| 22:03.36 | smileaf | depends, can they share windows? =p |
| 22:03.58 | mxttie | you mean, like, shared in the taskbar? |
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| 22:04.22 | smileaf | no.. I just wanna be able to use my other monitor like it was just extra space |
| 22:04.51 | smileaf | right now every window is locked on the monitor they were started from. |
| 22:04.51 | mxttie | i have to admit i have actually no experience with all that stuff as I have only one monitor ;) |
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| 22:09.36 | smileaf | lol |
| 22:09.55 | smileaf | did you know that Xinerama is a ServerFlags option in your xorg config? =) |
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| 22:15.39 | smileaf | Yay~ *hugs xinerama |
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| 22:18.09 | _michael | Hello, is there a way to launch a new kdm window on a different X display from the command line? |
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| 22:18.33 | JacobSingh | Hi, I'm trying to compile ktimetracker from svn on SuSE (first time compiling in KDE), here is the result: |
| 22:18.35 | JacobSingh | cmake .CMake Error: Error in cmake code at/tmp/ktimetracker/CMakeLists.txt:3:Unknown CMake command "macro_bool_to_01".-- Configuring done |
| 22:18.45 | JacobSingh | Does anyone know what I need to do? |
| 22:19.01 | JacobSingh | _michael: I think you want to set DISPLAY or something |
| 22:19.04 | smileaf | join #kde-devel or #kde4-devel =) |
| 22:19.41 | JacobSingh | smileaf: Thanks |
| 22:20.36 | _michael | JacobSingh: ok but will perhaps "export DISPLAY=:1 && startkde" or is there a separate command for kdm? |
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| 22:21.41 | JacobSingh | _michael: It's quite possible, I have no clue :) But I also don't unsertand what you are trying to do. Are you operating in one display, and you want to fire off a program in another display (which is running), or start up kde in a different display |
| 22:22.22 | _michael | JacobSingh: I'd like to start up kde normally in a different display starting with kdm |
| 22:23.25 | ganymede | my kwrite is always messing up on files stores with UTF-8 encoding, when opening them, it seems to be converted to the standard western thing and the special charactesr turn into garbatge. how can i deal with this? |
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| 22:25.46 | gordboy | how to remove the Lock Session option from the main K menu and the desktop context menu ? |
| 22:26.16 | JacobSingh | _michael: weird, I can't find anything on that |
| 22:26.22 | JacobSingh | I'm guessing it's not working... |
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| 22:27.05 | JacobSingh | _michael: what about using startx? |
| 22:27.09 | JacobSingh | it takes a display arg |
| 22:27.46 | _michael | JacobSingh: Alright I'll try that out |
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| 22:29.49 | volty | is it possible to send a window to another desktop using dcop ? |
| 22:29.50 | _michael | JacobSingh: X is telling me "Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0" after sudo startx -display localhost:1 |
| 22:30.20 | JacobSingh | _michael: I dunno, but the man page looks like it's possible |
| 22:30.27 | JacobSingh | perhaps you should check out an X specific channel? |
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| 22:31.43 | _michael | JacobSingh: I think so I saw the man page too. I think I'll try an X channel though thanks :) |
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| 22:35.04 | argonel | at the risk of asking a question that has been asked 1,011 times.. wtf is a Cicker? |
| 22:35.27 | MinceR | kicker? |
| 22:35.41 | MinceR | kicker is the kde panel (at least in kde3) |
| 22:35.59 | MinceR | iirc there was kpanel in some earlier versions and kde4 will have plasma |
| 22:36.16 | argonel | no. kde4 beta 3 is called "cicker" |
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| 22:38.43 | MinceR | oh. dunno about that |
| 22:39.01 | MinceR | maybe it's a pun on apps that start with k |
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| 23:05.24 | gordboy | ok. i managed to kill off the Lock Session option using Kiosk Admin Tool .... kubuntu has a weird location - /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdeglobals :( |
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| 23:24.22 | sparr | how can i change the appearance/layout of the K menu? |
| 23:25.25 | Simkin | right click on it |
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| 23:25.55 | BlackDiamonds | is there away for a normal user like mw to help out with the upcomming KDE4 ? |
| 23:26.33 | Simkin | BlackDiamonds: try it, report bugs. |
| 23:26.34 | robotangel | Well, set up a KDE4 and report bugs |
| 23:26.49 | BlackDiamonds | which distro is the best to do that ? |
| 23:26.54 | robotangel | Don't know, maybe translations |
| 23:27.09 | BlackDiamonds | I'm going to grab kubuntu today could I get KD4 running on that ? |
| 23:27.10 | Simkin | are there deb packages for kde 4? |
| 23:27.23 | robotangel | BlackDiamonds, opensuse has some nice kde4 svn binary builds twice a week |
| 23:27.41 | robotangel | if you want to build everything yourself, try gentoo or just any other distro |
| 23:28.14 | BlackDiamonds | I think I'll try opensuse, I gave up on gentoo |
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| 23:28.34 | robotangel | (already tried it on Arch, OpenSUSE and Kubuntu, works fine as long as there's nothing broken in svn :P) |
| 23:29.31 | BlackDiamonds | robotangel how did you get KDE4 on kubuntu ? |
| 23:29.54 | robotangel | Built it myself |
| 23:30.43 | robotangel | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
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| 23:33.44 | robotangel | but, at least for me, it's pretty unusable |
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| 23:34.03 | robotangel | some nice features are already there indeed |
| 23:34.50 | robotangel | but I think releasing it on december is a bit too early... maybe jan (29th - my birthday :D) or feb ;) |
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| 23:36.44 | orsonork | hello |
| 23:36.51 | orsonork | i'm trying to compile kde4 |
| 23:37.11 | FreshPrince | kde4 is buggy atm |
| 23:37.37 | orsonork | i'm having this problem => http://pastebin.ca/745023 |
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| 23:39.39 | orsonork | each time i run 'cmakekde' it gives me a new kind of error |
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| 23:42.35 | kde4 | Hi! |
| 23:43.46 | orsonork | hello |
| 23:43.54 | robotangel | hi, uh, kde4 is there :D |
| 23:43.55 | smileaf | orsonork: #kde4-devel |
| 23:44.01 | orsonork | ok |
| 23:44.02 | orsonork | thanks |
| 23:44.07 | orsonork | ;) |
| 23:44.28 | kde4 | ;-) Anyway, did any of you guys manage to have kde4 use compositing? |
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| 23:48.38 | sparr | Simkin: and then? |
| 23:49.33 | robotangel | well, if compositing was the biggest problem... i didnt even manage to change the icon set lol |
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| 23:50.28 | robotangel | probably just a small bug which is already fixed - but those can be quite annoying if there are to much of them... |
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| 23:58.55 | ganymede | shouldn't the content bar at the side advance as i scroll from one section to another in KPDF? |
| 23:59.04 | sparr | how can i change the appearance/layout of the K menu? |
| 23:59.10 | ganymede | or is this fixed in okular? |
| 23:59.21 | pinotree | it does |
| 23:59.30 | ganymede | sparr: right click on the K and Edit Menu... |
| 23:59.37 | ganymede | sparr: Menu Editor* |
| 23:59.37 | pinotree | i mean, the arrow poiting to the current section moves |
| 23:59.41 | sparr | ganymede: then what? |
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