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| 00:07.37 | Sho_ | OT: Does anyone have Issue 97 of the Linux Format Magazine? |
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| 00:32.49 | pablo_ | hola? |
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| 00:34.35 | pablo_ | #kde-es |
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| 00:39.54 | pablo_ | yo |
| 00:39.58 | pablo_ | estoy en kde-es |
| 00:40.04 | pablo_ | y nadie responde |
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| 00:41.12 | kornerr | hi |
| 00:41.42 | kornerr | anyone heard of qt-gtk engine? i know there's a gtk-qt one. |
| 00:41.43 | wolsni | hello kornerr |
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| 00:42.28 | timrs | kornerr: i think freedesktop.org or someplace big hosts the project place |
| 00:43.04 | timrs | pablo_: ayudamos tu en espanol |
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| 00:43.31 | timrs | pablo_: yo tengo google a translatar por me |
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| 00:44.34 | timrs | pablo_: dices tu pregunta |
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| 00:46.19 | kornerr | cu |
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| 00:46.50 | timrs | bye for like 20 minutes |
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| 00:56.59 | Lazydog | q: i run kde desktop here an i have just noticed that i cannot move any windows around of the screen, i.e from one side to the other. what could be causing this? |
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| 00:57.49 | manikfox | compiz or beryl |
| 00:57.53 | manikfox | kwin might now be working |
| 00:58.23 | Lazydog | no beryl |
| 00:59.23 | Lazydog | guess if i stop kwin everything dies |
| 00:59.54 | wolsni | Lazydog: you can try "kwin --replace" to restart kwin |
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| 01:05.05 | gnoob | Hey, when I turn my speakers all the way up to full volume, I hear the sound from whatever channel my TV card is set to. Could this be Kopete? It's the only think open that I think might have some access. |
| 01:05.21 | gnoob | only thing* |
| 01:06.35 | gnoob | When I go to "Configure...Devices" TV is playing in window. but the config page is not open right now. |
| 01:06.52 | gnoob | I suppose I should exit out of Kopete and see if the sound is still there. |
| 01:07.01 | gnoob | That's novel idea. |
| 01:07.57 | gnoob | hmm, nope, not Kopete. Very interesting. |
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| 01:37.36 | Presently42 | Hello. I use a dark theme which makes the back of a tool-tip black. I like this hugely. But, in Konqueror, I can't change the colour of the font, which is also black. How do I change the colour of the font? Thanks much. |
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| 01:58.48 | Jmanfoo | dangit why does #python require an ident? |
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| 02:23.04 | bsckdq | ok great |
| 02:23.11 | x_link | ? =) |
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| 02:54.30 | smileaf | Presently42: check your konqueror config.. there is an option to set the normal text color |
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| 03:12.50 | Skeithy | Is there any news on Konqueror in KDE4? I don't hear anything about it besides that webkit thing |
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| 03:40.35 | Presently42 | swleaf: The normal text colour doesn't affect the tool-tip. |
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| 04:05.47 | root__ | olá |
| 04:06.09 | root__ | alguem do brasil aqui? |
| 04:06.58 | root__ | so tem este servidor ? |
| 04:07.32 | root__ | estou procurando um bom motivo para nao matar este programa |
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| 06:46.07 | yellowChicken | i am looking for a simple application that can crop jpg files. gimp can do it, but does not let me resize the rectangle once drawn. is there another app that can do what i want? |
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| 06:48.28 | icwiener | yellowChicken: iirc krita can do that. |
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| 06:50.29 | Selanit | Hiya. Is there any way to configure KDE so that clicking a selected file once will let me rename it? Pressing F2 or right-click->rename all the time is driving me berserk. |
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| 06:50.43 | yellowChicken | icwiener: thx |
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| 06:51.22 | yellowChicken | icwiener: why usay "iirc krita" instead of just "krita"? |
| 06:51.44 | yellowChicken | y u say .... |
| 06:52.26 | Selanit | iirc means "if I recall correctly" |
| 06:52.36 | icwiener | iirc => if i remember correctly... I just read the docs once, never tried it actually. |
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| 06:55.50 | yellowChicken | ah... |
| 06:56.21 | yellowChicken | i thought you are reffering to some sort of robot on the irc channel that can take question request |
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| 06:57.24 | icwiener | Actually I am the robot that can take question requests... *beep* *beep* |
| 06:57.26 | icwiener | :D |
| 06:57.52 | annma | lol |
| 06:58.22 | yellowChicken | icwiener: you recall, how to tell it to crop? i click on the crop-tool, and have a box there, but when i look at drop down menu, i don |
| 06:58.29 | yellowChicken | t see a crop-now function |
| 06:59.34 | icwiener | Hmm, long time... try to click somewhere on the canvas (just a guess) |
| 06:59.58 | icwiener | annma: bonjour madame. :) |
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| 07:00.53 | annma | hi icwiener :) |
| 07:01.07 | annma | always polishing your translation skills! |
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| 07:01.53 | icwiener | annma: Oui, naturellement. :) |
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| 07:02.54 | annma | woow |
| 07:02.56 | icwiener | annma: I hav french lessons a few years at school, but it's over ten years ago, so they basically never happened. |
| 07:03.10 | icwiener | *had |
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| 07:05.50 | yellowChicken | icwiener: i got it |
| 07:05.55 | yellowChicken | thnx |
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| 07:06.13 | icwiener | yellowChicken: no problem. |
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| 07:08.35 | Selanit | Well, I found the answer to my question: no. So now I need to figure out if it's worth the effort to struggle through the C++, make it do what I want, recompile KDE, and submit a patch. Bah |
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| 07:42.10 | sabayonlive-1073 | stuck in "KDE crash handler" loop. 107 windows open and climbing. tried reeboot twice, any ssugestions? |
| 07:48.28 | sabayonlive-1073 | Can anyone tell me what I can do to stop the "KDE Daemon Crash handler" ? |
| 07:49.42 | aseigo | sabayonlive-1073: use something that doesn't cause kded to crash? |
| 07:49.49 | aseigo | something => an os |
| 07:49.50 | oGALAXYo | aseigo: :) |
| 07:49.56 | oGALAXYo | sabayonlive-1073: stop compiling things.. |
| 07:50.08 | aseigo | if kded is crasing constantly, you've got serious problems... and not ones we (kde) introduce |
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| 07:50.43 | oGALAXYo | aseigo: isnt that the hidden if (user==sabayonlinux) crash(); else normal(); ? |
| 07:50.50 | oGALAXYo | in kded ? |
| 07:50.57 | aseigo | seems that way =/ |
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| 07:51.31 | oGALAXYo | aseigo: kde 4 seems to be progressing nicely... the first screenshots look very promising. |
| 07:51.45 | aseigo | it's coming along, yes =) |
| 07:51.51 | sabayonlive-1073 | so you're saying I shouldn't try tto fix this but instead choose another distro? (sorry guys, I'm very new to this) |
| 07:51.53 | oGALAXYo | i am surprised how quick one get results by using C++ |
| 07:52.07 | oGALAXYo | sabayonlive-1073: what distro ? |
| 07:52.58 | sabayonlive-1073 | Sabayon 3.4f (I think) |
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| 07:53.08 | oGALAXYo | hmm |
| 07:53.13 | oGALAXYo | you really should use a "real" distro |
| 07:53.17 | oGALAXYo | one of the leading ones.. |
| 07:53.23 | oGALAXYo | kubuntu, knoppix, debian, redhat, suse.. |
| 07:53.25 | sabayonlive-1073 | such as? |
| 07:53.29 | oGALAXYo | as those |
| 07:53.41 | oGALAXYo | whats used by the majority of people usually works.. |
| 07:53.44 | sabayonlive-1073 | ubuntu is good? cool thanks - that was another recommended to me |
| 07:53.52 | oGALAXYo | i said kubuntu |
| 07:54.13 | oGALAXYo | note the K infront of ubuntu |
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| 07:55.35 | sabayonlive-1073 | got it, thanks - would this be the easier one for me to learn on? |
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| 07:56.31 | oGALAXYo | sabayonlive-1073: i dont know. this all depends on own skills and the will to learn something.. but all i can say is you really need to use something that is used by the wide range of people and which has a good popularity... and thats what i posted above.. |
| 07:57.06 | oGALAXYo | sabayon linux is hardly used by someone.. this doesnt mean that its bad.. but it means that it may have a low frequency of users that may report bugs - since others prefer some other distro.. |
| 07:57.25 | oGALAXYo | a frequently used distro with good name is a distro that quickly reacts on crashing things.. |
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| 07:57.44 | logixoul | sabayonlive-1073: I recommend you try Kubuntu, Fedora and openSUSE for a start. |
| 07:57.52 | sabayonlive-1073 | I get that, being a newbie I'm relying on sugestions from experts such as yourselves - I'm trying to migrate from XP to Linux |
| 07:58.13 | sabayonlive-1073 | will try Kubuntu, thanks for your helpp :) |
| 07:58.17 | oGALAXYo | sabayonlive-1073: see, even logixoul recommends these distros. |
| 07:58.24 | sabayonlive-1073 | rofl |
| 07:58.32 | oGALAXYo | kubuntu and (open)suse are probably the best bets so far. |
| 07:58.33 | oGALAXYo | for kde |
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| 07:58.58 | sabayonlive-1073 | thanks again |
| 07:59.19 | logixoul | np |
| 07:59.54 | illogic-al | aloh |
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| 08:05.15 | *** topic/#kde by annma -> KDE-Edu Polishing Day: #kde-polishing to hunt Edu bugs | KDE 3.5.7 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
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| 08:06.00 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 08:07.09 | oGALAXYo | is there an app for kde that allows me to paint EPKs |
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| 08:07.31 | oGALAXYo | process chains.... if translated correctly .. |
| 08:07.48 | logixoul | flowcharts? |
| 08:08.04 | logixoul | oGALAXYo: Kivio |
| 08:08.14 | oGALAXYo | no... |
| 08:08.20 | oGALAXYo | its more for project management... |
| 08:08.27 | logixoul | Umbrello? |
| 08:08.31 | oGALAXYo | process chains kept as objects so you can have relations to it. |
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| 08:08.41 | oGALAXYo | not uml |
| 08:08.42 | logixoul | dunno |
| 08:08.45 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 08:08.50 | oGALAXYo | more like "Aris" for windows. |
| 08:09.24 | oGALAXYo | http://www.ids-scheer.com/en/aris |
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| 08:10.52 | annma | any ruby guru here? |
| 08:11.13 | annma | #ruby does not answer |
| 08:11.24 | logixoul | annma: I know a little about ruby, you could ask me |
| 08:11.31 | logixoul | (since rdale isn't around...) |
| 08:11.46 | annma | I want to test if `svn co -q svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/#{datadirname}` exists |
| 08:12.33 | annma | if `svn co -q svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/#{datadirname}` does not work as such |
| 08:13.16 | logixoul | why the -q? |
| 08:13.31 | annma | no idea |
| 08:13.32 | logixoul | it means "quiet", so we can't get the error output |
| 08:13.39 | logixoul | just a sec |
| 08:13.39 | annma | I get it |
| 08:13.50 | annma | svn: URL 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kde4/zh_TW/data/kdeedu/khangman' doesn't exist |
| 08:14.01 | annma | I get that in konsole so I want to skip this dir |
| 08:14.23 | icwiener | Why not using the return value? |
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| 08:15.21 | icwiener | If the comand returns true, use thi directory. |
| 08:15.42 | logixoul | annma: try this: if(system 'svn blah blah') doSomething; |
| 08:15.59 | logixoul | where doSomething handles the error |
| 08:16.08 | qupada | surely 'svn foo bar baz && doSomething' would work just as well? |
| 08:16.32 | logixoul | that's in bash no? |
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| 08:16.51 | logixoul | we're talking about ruby |
| 08:16.57 | qupada | indeedy. and no, i haven't been reading the conversation :D |
| 08:17.01 | logixoul | hehe |
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| 08:18.27 | Nyle | qupada: ! |
| 08:18.38 | Nyle | whats up my main man dude homie bro |
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| 08:20.03 | annma | logixoul: yes that did it!!! thnaks |
| 08:20.11 | logixoul | yay |
| 08:20.47 | annma | se, you already helped Edu |
| 08:20.50 | annma | see |
| 08:21.04 | logixoul | ^_^ |
| 08:21.13 | logixoul | compiling at 90% |
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| 08:24.03 | logixoul | heya rdale. we were just wondering if there's a better way to detect an error in an external program than this (in Ruby): if(system 'foo bar') handleError |
| 08:24.44 | annma | folishly I am doing a bit of ruby for getting selected data from svn rdale |
| 08:24.56 | annma | foolishly as I know nothing in ruby... |
| 08:25.01 | ashtefere | guys, is there something special i have to do to make a servicemenu to work? |
| 08:25.27 | logixoul | ashtefere: besides put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/? |
| 08:25.32 | ashtefere | i put it into the .kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ dir but it wont show up |
| 08:26.02 | logixoul | ashtefere: make sure you're done in your konquerors and run `killall konqueror && konqueror` |
| 08:26.15 | ashtefere | i have relogged in |
| 08:26.19 | logixoul | hmm |
| 08:26.20 | ashtefere | is that the same? |
| 08:26.25 | logixoul | yep |
| 08:27.21 | logixoul | ashtefere: your servicemenu is a single .desktop file, right? |
| 08:27.27 | ashtefere | yup |
| 08:27.44 | ashtefere | wtf |
| 08:28.00 | logixoul | hm, pastebin it? |
| 08:28.00 | ashtefere | showing up, but in the wrong place |
| 08:28.03 | ashtefere | o.O |
| 08:28.13 | logixoul | wrong place? |
| 08:28.29 | ashtefere | ok, it should only work for cd images mimetype |
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| 08:28.32 | ashtefere | but |
| 08:28.36 | ashtefere | it is working for all files |
| 08:28.39 | ashtefere | but++ |
| 08:28.45 | ashtefere | cd images dont have an action menu |
| 08:28.48 | ashtefere | where it is locatred |
| 08:29.03 | logixoul | pastebin the servicemenu |
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| 08:31.25 | ashtefere | can i make the servicemenu go somewhere other than the actions menu? |
| 08:33.02 | logixoul | ashtefere: yes, but I don't remember how. I don't think it's easy. a servicemenu on kde-apps.org had a recent update which moved it outside the actions menu |
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| 08:46.37 | rdale | logixoul: all you can do is check the process exit code in some way i suppose |
| 08:46.57 | logixoul | ok, thanks |
| 08:47.53 | rdale | and there are other ways to do that than 'if system..' but they amount to the same thing. maybe open a pipe to the program to get error messages |
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| 09:00.27 | ashtefere | who wants to debug a service menu?!?!?! :D :D :D |
| 09:00.30 | ashtefere | http://pastebin.com/m68203625 |
| 09:00.48 | ashtefere | im going to smash somethig if i dont figure this out |
| 09:01.27 | logixoul | ashtefere: "all/allisos"? where did you get that from? |
| 09:01.42 | icwiener | ashtefere: umount? |
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| 09:02.26 | logixoul | ashtefere: the two X-KDE-* lines seem unnecessary |
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| 09:02.41 | ashtefere | i made a mimtype |
| 09:02.46 | logixoul | ah |
| 09:02.52 | logixoul | why? |
| 09:02.53 | ashtefere | for *.iso, *.mdf, etc |
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| 09:03.06 | ashtefere | so that when clicked they auto mount to a drive |
| 09:03.09 | ashtefere | and that works |
| 09:03.19 | ashtefere | but i want a servicemenu now |
| 09:03.23 | ashtefere | i wrote that up |
| 09:03.26 | logixoul | just list the mimetypes for iso, mdf, etc in the ServiceTypes line |
| 09:03.30 | ashtefere | and it works on everything BUT isos |
| 09:03.46 | ashtefere | eg, iso, mdf, etc, just wont work |
| 09:03.52 | ashtefere | but on text files and shit it shows up |
| 09:04.01 | logixoul | ashtefere: btw: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php?search=Search&name=mount |
| 09:04.06 | icwiener | Maybe it's "all/but"? :) |
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| 09:05.09 | ashtefere | nah its still not f*king working |
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| 09:06.42 | ashtefere | why dont i have an actions menu on any of my iso files, btw? |
| 09:07.54 | logixoul | sounds like a distro tweak. I do have an actions menu on a .bin file here in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn |
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| 09:10.24 | annma | is anonsvn down? |
| 09:11.32 | logixoul | no |
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| 09:15.08 | ashtefere | ok... when i rightclick an iso, the fuesiso option is there |
| 09:15.15 | ashtefere | but its not listed in any service menu |
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| 09:15.36 | ashtefere | this is so frustrating |
| 09:16.01 | ashtefere | my service menu which is made to show up for ISO will show up only on stuff that ISNT iso |
| 09:16.03 | ashtefere | WHY? |
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| 09:18.30 | icwiener | Maybe you defined the mime type wrong. Have you tried using *.iso only? |
| 09:18.39 | icwiener | I mean in the service menu directly? |
| 09:18.55 | ashtefere | i even tried *.* |
| 09:18.59 | ashtefere | one thing i noticed |
| 09:19.13 | ashtefere | its actually only showing up when i rightclick the service menu .desktop file |
| 09:19.17 | ashtefere | but on nothing else |
| 09:19.30 | ashtefere | like, THE specific service menu |
| 09:19.37 | ashtefere | no other service menu |
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| 09:21.18 | ashtefere | oh shit |
| 09:21.21 | ashtefere | wtf |
| 09:21.32 | ashtefere | every service menu i have |
| 09:21.35 | ashtefere | will only work |
| 09:21.43 | ashtefere | when right clicking on its OWN .desktop file |
| 09:21.51 | ashtefere | and doesnt work on anything else |
| 09:22.35 | ashtefere | like, play with kaffeine, it only shows up when i rightclick the playwithkaffeine.desktop file, but no other fike |
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| 09:24.23 | ashtefere | what, no one has had this problem before? |
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| 09:37.24 | oGALAXYo | new kde 4 livecd |
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| 09:39.06 | annma | oGALAXYo: where? |
| 09:39.10 | annma | link? |
| 09:39.28 | oGALAXYo | http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
| 09:39.44 | oGALAXYo | 0.4.1 |
| 09:39.49 | annma | ah ok |
| 09:39.50 | oGALAXYo | from yesterday.. |
| 09:40.00 | oGALAXYo | yeah the 0.4 was broken and i really like to check kde 4 |
| 09:40.06 | oGALAXYo | without compiling it.. due to lack of time. |
| 09:40.17 | annma | so you have it? |
| 09:40.25 | oGALAXYo | 59% so far |
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| 09:40.32 | annma | ok |
| 09:40.35 | oGALAXYo | 360 kb/s |
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| 09:44.00 | oGALAXYo | let me test it first ... i will report whether its worth the download or not. |
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| 09:54.34 | ann_out | oGALAXYo: can you specify if it has KDE-Edu on it? |
| 09:54.42 | ann_out | thanks in advance |
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| 09:55.19 | oGALAXYo | ann_out: will do... just burning it... |
| 09:56.25 | oGALAXYo | i hope that "startmenu" is working... last version it was broken, so i wasnt able to test anything. |
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| 09:57.34 | oGALAXYo | testing now |
| 09:57.44 | benJIman | oGALAXYo: 0.4 did work as long as you didn't have windows installed iirc. |
| 09:58.01 | benJIman | And there was a workaround. |
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| 10:32.53 | oGALAXYo | ann_out: i just tried the CD. a) its not really booting up correctly.. b) when it does it shows a quite broken kde 4 setup... c) i wasn't able to test any further since i dont know howto start any applications - there is no application starter or something. |
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| 10:36.29 | pinotree | oGALAXYo: any terminal *is* an application starter |
| 10:36.31 | tsb | whoa - "12399 toon 1 0 1313m 1.2g 11m S 1 61.3 72:08.28 konqueror" somehow I think konq has a memleak in kde 3.5.7 :) |
| 10:36.47 | oGALAXYo | ann_out: there is some "?" icon on the bottom left which i believe can be a application launcher as known from kde 3 but it dint work |
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| 10:37.05 | oGALAXYo | pinotree: really... but problem is.. howto start exactly a terminal.. nothing works.. |
| 10:37.19 | pinotree | oGALAXYo: hm, so? |
| 10:37.30 | pinotree | going to fix them? |
| 10:37.35 | oGALAXYo | .. thats why i can not test anything :) |
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| 10:38.14 | pinotree | if you *really* want to test, compile svn on your own |
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| 10:39.24 | oGALAXYo | pinotree: i think you didnt follow the previous conversation i had with annma.. i mentioned the new ISO from beiner, i donwloaded it, burned it and tested it.. annma asked me to check whether kde edu is part of that image.. so my reply above was strictly a reply to what annma asked me for.. |
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| 10:39.55 | pinotree | then i should shut up? ok |
| 10:40.16 | oGALAXYo | pinotree: i am quite sure that svn may work better than the image.. but i lack a lot of time to do more atm... it was just a quick test.. didnt work.. ok... next time more luck... at least when final kde 4 is out. |
| 10:40.18 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 10:40.19 | oGALAXYo | :) |
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| 10:59.15 | sredna | i have one containing FLOOR() in formulas, and OOo can't understand the kspread data :( |
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| 11:07.39 | aantipop | im trying to install the "domino" theme: when i type ./configure i get this error: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
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| 11:11.58 | oGALAXYo | aantipop: on some systems a reference to cpp in /lib is required |
| 11:12.16 | oGALAXYo | aantipop: simply reconfigure the configure script and it should match the new location of your system. |
| 11:12.29 | oGALAXYo | having cpp in /lib is plain wrong for my understanding. |
| 11:12.58 | aantipop | thats far beyond my knownledge |
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| 11:15.24 | aantipop | if i browse the configure script i understand nothing |
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| 11:17.37 | aantipop | thats the last line before the error: checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp |
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| 11:21.10 | thiago_home | install your development packages |
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| 11:22.23 | aantipop | did that |
| 11:22.26 | aantipop | i gave up already |
| 11:22.32 | aantipop | kidebase-dev and kde-devel |
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| 11:22.47 | aantipop | several hundreds of mb's for a simple style |
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| 11:24.19 | thiago_home | you don't have your compiler installed or the packages it requires to work |
| 11:24.36 | thiago_home | why don't you use a pre-compiled version of the theme, that is in your distribution's repository? |
| 11:24.48 | aantipop | theres no deb for my distro |
| 11:24.53 | aantipop | i have the cpp installed |
| 11:25.08 | roberto | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.27 | thiago_home | aantipop: then it's time to ask a package to be created. |
| 11:25.44 | thiago_home | config.log also says why it thinks your cpp isn't working |
| 11:25.57 | aantipop | thiago_home: i did already, but ubuntu is slow |
| 11:26.43 | thiago_home | roberto: can you ping any website? |
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| 11:26.56 | aantipop | found a deb for kubuntu6.10, lets see if that will work on gutsy lol |
| 11:27.26 | thiago_home | probably not |
| 11:27.33 | roberto | yes thiago_home, it is not a dns problem. I can use apt-get or firefox for example, but not konqueror or kopete |
| 11:27.39 | thiago_home | don't install packages that aren't made for your distribution-version |
| 11:27.55 | thiago_home | roberto: but konversation works? |
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| 11:28.07 | aantipop | it does work |
| 11:28.30 | roberto | yes, konversation works....it's very strange. I also tried to open directly an ip address with konqueror but always the same answer |
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| 11:29.00 | thiago_home | what Kopete protocol? |
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| 11:30.04 | roberto | mmm you're right thiago_home...with a icq protocol I don't have problem. it could be a msn protocol problem. ok. |
| 11:30.11 | roberto | any ideas for konqueror problem? |
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| 11:30.36 | thiago_home | yes: it's kio_http that isn't working |
| 11:30.49 | roberto | kio_http... |
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| 11:31.17 | thiago_home | can you browse non-http websites in Konqueror? |
| 11:32.11 | roberto | yes, thiago_home! I can connect on a ftp site |
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| 11:35.05 | roberto | how can I make kio_http works? |
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| 11:40.05 | annma | oGALAXYo: Alt+F2 |
| 11:40.12 | annma | does that woek? |
| 11:40.18 | annma | work |
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| 11:54.22 | sushifish | Hi! Every time I login into KDE (gentoo, latest 3.5.7), I get the error_1-sound. Where can I look what causes this error? |
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| 11:54.38 | roldyx | hello i ve a problem with kmail, i ve an account with user and pass via pop3, and i can download the emails, but i forget my password and i cant login into my webmail |
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| 11:55.34 | annma | sushifish: in all KDE progs or also xmms for ex? |
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| 11:55.40 | roldyx | is possible recover my pass |
| 11:55.42 | roldyx | ?? |
| 11:55.49 | runlevelten | roldyx... you forgot your password? |
| 11:56.02 | runlevelten | Yes. Firstly, make sure you close kmail, kopete and kwallet. |
| 11:56.06 | oGALAXYo | annma: i just broke the cd in pieces and threw it into the trash |
| 11:56.08 | p1per | Could someone tell me why KDE overrides the desktop background set with i.e. `feh`? |
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| 11:56.15 | runlevelten | roldyx: ^ |
| 11:56.20 | sushifish | annma: No, not all progs, only first time after Login |
| 11:56.22 | roldyx | runlevelten: so so... |
| 11:56.34 | runlevelten | You've done that? |
| 11:56.39 | annma | sushifish: I never saw that error, try google |
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| 11:57.07 | annma | p1per: it does not keep your background then? |
| 11:57.35 | sushifish | annma: already tried. must be on the user start-scripts as this only happens when I login my main-user... |
| 11:57.42 | runlevelten | roldyx: done that? |
| 11:57.52 | roldyx | runlevelten: long time ago he webmaster tell me " put the next pass 'thepass' and i copy and paste that.. |
| 11:58.11 | runlevelten | roldyx: runlevelten: Yes. Firstly, make sure you close kmail, kopete and kwallet. |
| 11:58.29 | annma | sushifish: only in 1 user? |
| 11:58.34 | annma | then you added it somehow |
| 11:58.43 | p1per | I need to set the (root) background with `feh` so conky appears transparent but if I don't set the same wallpaper with the control panel and for example set it to "No Picture" my desktop will keep that color and ignore the wp set with `feh` |
| 11:58.47 | roldyx | runlevelten: and later? |
| 11:58.53 | sushifish | annma: yes, only on my first user |
| 11:59.08 | annma | sushifish: that's somethign you did then |
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| 11:59.23 | runlevelten | then run kwalletmanager and look in your kwallet. |
| 11:59.26 | annma | p1per: no idea, tried google? |
| 11:59.33 | runlevelten | roldyx: then run kwalletmanager and look in your kwallet. |
| 11:59.41 | roldyx | ok |
| 12:00.05 | sushifish | annma: where can I find log-files or info on that? |
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| 12:01.32 | roldyx | runlevelten: i havent installed kwallet |
| 12:01.59 | sushifish | annma: I already tried to delete the complete ~/.kde directory, but it didn't help... |
| 12:02.02 | p1per | annma, doin' it right now thought I may try and ask here 1st ;) |
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| 12:03.00 | roldyx | :S |
| 12:03.07 | shinda | was wondering how does one apply/install patches for instance I want to patch kdelibs with a patch that I've downloaded, now how do I apply install this patch? |
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| 12:04.06 | annma | patch -i patch_name usually |
| 12:04.18 | annma | in the source code where the patch was made for |
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| 12:05.29 | shinda | thanks annma, btw I'read about compiling kdelibs with xinerama support but when I run configure --help on kdelibs there doesn't seem to be any xinerama option any ideas? |
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| 12:06.07 | runlevelten | roldyx: then you've probably used unsafe storage. |
| 12:06.10 | annma | isn"t it default? |
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| 12:06.39 | roldyx | runlevelten: and then?? where storage my passwd? |
| 12:06.54 | shinda | anima | not sure.. |
| 12:07.04 | runlevelten | roldyx: I can't remember whether it's encrypted or not, but unsafe pop password storage is in one of the kmail files in your user kde prefix. |
| 12:07.10 | twosouls82 | it seems to be that konqueror doesn't replace the location of the page when a location header is sent, is this true? |
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| 12:07.26 | roldyx | cd .kde? |
| 12:07.30 | runlevelten | roldyx: so like find ~/.kde -name "*kmail*" |
| 12:07.33 | annma | shinda: it is I think |
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| 12:12.01 | bjwebb | hi |
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| 12:15.02 | roldyx | runlevelten: kmail save password encrypt... and i dont find my account |
| 12:15.41 | roldyx | runlevelten: i run "grep -nr roldyx *" |
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| 12:17.31 | p1per | Can't find anything with google related to my root bg problem with kde and feh :< |
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| 12:20.05 | runlevelten | What's "feh"? |
| 12:20.26 | runlevelten | More to the point, are you allowing other applications to run in the root window p1per? |
| 12:20.35 | p1per | image viewer which can be used to set the root bg |
| 12:21.07 | runlevelten | Did you check allow programs in the root window in kcontrol » Desktop » Behaviour? |
| 12:21.07 | annma | root bg? |
| 12:21.11 | p1per | background |
| 12:21.16 | runlevelten | the desktop background. |
| 12:21.23 | annma | root background? |
| 12:21.25 | annma | ah |
| 12:21.39 | runlevelten | p1per: ^ |
| 12:22.00 | p1per | mh don't really know what u mean by "root window"? |
| 12:22.43 | p1per | ah sry wait a sec |
| 12:23.12 | p1per | nope "Allow programs...." isn't checked |
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| 12:23.33 | runlevelten | It must be checked for that sort of thing, for a start :) |
| 12:23.41 | axlrose | hi |
| 12:23.46 | runlevelten | Otherwise kdesktop will draw its own background over it |
| 12:24.04 | p1per | ah ic - ok that should solve my problem now completely |
| 12:24.17 | runlevelten | Not necessarily, heh |
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| 12:24.21 | runlevelten | Does it work now though? |
| 12:24.27 | p1per | trying |
| 12:25.00 | p1per | ok |
| 12:25.04 | p1per | no it doesn't |
| 12:25.17 | p1per | it still keeps the settings set via the cp in front |
| 12:25.35 | p1per | *the background |
| 12:25.44 | runlevelten | let me get feh - I'll be a sec |
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| 12:26.11 | axlrose | kopet?? |
| 12:26.29 | annma | kopete |
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| 12:26.54 | axlrose | please QQ in kopete |
| 12:27.17 | runlevelten | p1per: in the background section, are you able to set no wallpaper and use the advanced section's "use the following program to draw the desktop background"? |
| 12:27.25 | runlevelten | and pick feh? |
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| 12:27.46 | axlrose | when |
| 12:27.50 | axlrose | ?? |
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| 12:28.26 | p1per | hm I got a link to feh at ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 12:28.35 | p1per | didn't try to do it that way |
| 12:29.55 | p1per | it wants an executable, not sure what to put there? |
| 12:30.16 | runlevelten | I don't really know the nature of feh. I assume it's some kind of image viewer, right? |
| 12:30.30 | p1per | yes |
| 12:30.37 | runlevelten | Out of curiosity, why are you running two programs to perform the same task in this context? |
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| 12:31.42 | p1per | conky needs the root background to be set to appear transparent and that doesn't work with the kde cp |
| 12:31.44 | runlevelten | on the executable, assuming you just run feh to use feh, give it the output of which feh, I guess |
| 12:32.06 | runlevelten | oh damn, work call. |
| 12:32.48 | ashtefere | is there a way to reset kde file associations? |
| 12:33.29 | p1per | didn't help to add feh there |
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| 12:43.27 | pingeling | how do i change my nickname? '/nick mynickname' doesn't seem to do anything :( |
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| 12:44.24 | Sho_ | pingeling: Perhaps the nickname you're trying to change to is already taken |
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| 12:44.36 | pingeling | no |
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| 12:44.58 | Mirrakor | pingeling: which nick? |
| 12:45.10 | pingeling | pingeling <== sredna |
| 12:45.36 | pingeling | ... and even so, shouldn't i get a error message? |
| 12:45.56 | Mirrakor | and you type "/nick sredna" in this windows editbox? |
| 12:46.04 | pingeling | yes. |
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| 12:47.09 | Mirrakor | Das is merkwürdig |
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| 12:47.17 | Mirrakor | ah, that's odd - sorry |
| 12:47.23 | pingeling | apt-get install ksirc |
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| 12:47.45 | Sho_ | pingeling: Ah, I know |
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| 12:48.09 | Sho_ | pingeling: Remember that 'nick' script you installed? The /nick -> /exec alias that Konvi created overloads the built-in /nick |
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| 12:48.26 | pingeling | yes |
| 12:48.30 | shtoom | Hi everybody, I've placed this entry in crontab -----> 6 2 * * * ktorrent |
| 12:48.30 | shtoom | But its not getting started as expected however all other entries like wget and killall commands in crontab are working fine. am I missing some thing here? I am using kde on ubuntu fiesty |
| 12:49.02 | Sho_ | pingeling: Go to the "Command Aliases" prefs page and delete the alias, and call the script something else like "getbacknick" or somesuch (and adjust the /exec in your "Commands" field accordingly) |
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| 12:49.15 | annma | yeah sredna |
| 12:49.30 | Sho_ | sredna: Go to the "Command Aliases" prefs page and delete the alias, and call the script something else like "getbacknick" or somesuch (and adjust the /exec in your "Commands" field accordingly) |
| 12:49.38 | sredna | hi annma :-) |
| 12:49.46 | sredna | ah :) |
| 12:49.59 | sredna | some putfall :O |
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| 12:50.53 | Sho_ | sredna: On startup Konversation scans $appdirs/scripts and creates "/<scriptname> => /exec <scriptname>" aliases, and since you had a 'nick' script ... ;) |
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| 12:57.43 | ubunturos | sredna: ping |
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| 13:05.27 | Mirrakor | sredna: yeah, but when your script itself is named nick, konversation will create an alias forit |
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| 13:08.55 | llision | Anyone on FC7? |
| 13:09.14 | eitanl | hello! |
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| 13:09.36 | pinotree | llision: #fedora |
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| 13:22.59 | ubunturos | sredna: ping |
| 13:23.44 | pinotree | ubunturos: stop that cronjob please |
| 13:24.29 | ubunturos | pinotree: ok. Sorry, if that was too irritating |
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| 13:25.17 | sredna|konversat | imme |
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| 13:25.58 | sredna|konversat | this does not work |
| 13:26.12 | sredna|konversat | ubunturos: pong |
| 13:26.35 | ubunturos | sredna|konversat: did you receive a bug report for kde docs? |
| 13:26.45 | ubunturos | sredna|konversat: Kate, rather |
| 13:26.55 | sredna|konversat | let me check |
| 13:27.06 | ubunturos | sredna|konversat: it is a minor typo - can be corrected within seconds. |
| 13:28.10 | sredna|konversat | WHEN? |
| 13:28.11 | pinotree | ubunturos: kde3.5 or kde4? |
| 13:28.21 | ubunturos | pinotree: kde 3.5.2 |
| 13:28.26 | sredna|konversat | sorry |
| 13:28.38 | ubunturos | pinotree: the stable docs (at docs.kde.org ) also has the same error |
| 13:28.40 | sredna|konversat | ubunturos: can you tell us the bug # |
| 13:28.44 | ubunturos | sredna|konversat: just a min |
| 13:28.46 | pinotree | ubunturos: you're 5 kde releases behind |
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| 13:29.26 | ubunturos | pinotree: yes, I do know. But the stable docs also bear the same error |
| 13:29.42 | pinotree | ubunturos: kde 3.5.x is frozen |
| 13:29.55 | ubunturos | sredna|konversat: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149857 |
| 13:30.25 | ubunturos | pinotree: so, there aren't any patches to existing bugs as well? |
| 13:30.48 | pinotree | i did not say that |
| 13:31.38 | sredna|konversat | annma: is it allowed (and making sense) to commit to docs for 3.5.x atm? |
| 13:32.07 | annma | sredna|konversat: no idea what is allowed |
| 13:32.13 | sredna|konversat | ok :) |
| 13:32.17 | annma | making sense: yes, as there will be a 8 |
| 13:32.38 | ubunturos | few distros are still with 3.5.x KDE, so doesn't harm, does it? |
| 13:32.40 | sredna|konversat | Sho_: now konversation c an't find the script 'nick' anymore.. |
| 13:32.48 | sredna|konversat | maybe i need to reinstall |
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| 13:34.03 | Sho_ | sredna|konversat: When you renamed the file from "nick" to <something else>, you need to change the /exec call in your "Commands" field to /exec <something else> as I wrote earlier |
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| 13:35.11 | sredna | thank you :) |
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| 13:36.11 | yang_ | 大家好 |
| 13:36.35 | annma | English please yang_ |
| 13:36.35 | pinotree | yang_: english please |
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| 13:37.12 | yang_ | sorry |
| 13:37.32 | ubunturos | pinotree: just wanted to thank you for KPDF - specially like the Presentation mode of display. Thankyou |
| 13:37.48 | pinotree | i did not do that :) |
| 13:38.13 | ubunturos | KDE-In representative told me that, you were involved in Development of KPDF |
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| 13:40.20 | sredna | mumble.. |
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| 13:54.07 | Toraux | hey, quick question... I just setup all the kde hal+dbus stuff and initially I got some messages for my removable media. I hit cancel but now they don't appear when I drop in a cd etc, anyone know how to get that back? |
| 13:55.15 | Sho_ | Toraux: Poke around in KControl -> Peripherals -> Storage MEdia |
| 13:55.17 | Sho_ | *Media |
| 13:55.24 | troy | Toraux: there is a config module someplace in kcontrol -- where sho is pointing :P |
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| 13:55.53 | Toraux | I've looked at that, there is no option there to switch on or off the prompt |
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| 13:56.36 | Sho_ | Toraux: Actually, there's a selection of media types, and if one of them, such as "Do Nothing", is marked as "Auto Action" (see the button on the right), that will be done instead of prompting |
| 13:56.49 | Anarky | Toraux: if no default option is selected, the prompt appears |
| 13:56.55 | Toraux | none are set to auto action |
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| 13:57.42 | Sho_ | Toraux: If you're sure that every relevant media type in the list is set to prompt you, then it's most likely a setup issue with your system infrastructure, i.e. HAL and D-Bus |
| 13:57.51 | Toraux | I had messed with the auto action stuff but then the prompts didn't appear and neither did my desired action, I then removed the auto action's and I don't see a prompt |
| 13:58.09 | Toraux | it could be, why would it have worked the first time and not now though? |
| 13:59.00 | Sho_ | Toraux: Some kind of package update perhaps |
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| 13:59.34 | Toraux | so you would recommend reinstalling the hal and dbus packages? |
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| 14:00.52 | Sho_ | Toraux: Perhaps -- another good idea might be to visit #yourdistro and ask whether there are any common or recent problems with HAL/D-Bus in their system that might affect you |
| 14:01.40 | Toraux | k, i'll try that first then, thanks |
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| 14:05.16 | uga | Toraux: I've seen a similar problem with CF cards in kubuntu. After some time I'd get no alerts anymore |
| 14:05.29 | uga | rebooting would resume the notifications |
| 14:05.55 | Toraux | uga I tried rebooting already |
| 14:06.07 | uga | uhm, and still nothing? that's strange |
| 14:07.05 | uga | Toraux: kcontrol->kde components->service manager->media notifier daemon is started? |
| 14:07.14 | Toraux | the notifications only worked the first time.. i'll check |
| 14:07.51 | Toraux | yeah it is |
| 14:08.11 | uga | you could try stopping the service and restarting |
| 14:08.16 | uga | it may have crashed (guessing) |
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| 14:11.12 | Toraux | restarted but no luck |
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| 14:11.21 | uga | uhmpf |
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| 14:13.53 | uga | Toraux: is that *buntu? |
| 14:14.10 | Toraux | no, gentoo |
| 14:14.28 | uga | oh ok. I thought it was ubuntu. It seems they mod the behaviour of kde about media |
| 14:14.46 | uga | umounting a device would automount it again, no matter how much you disabled it |
| 14:14.56 | Toraux | the weirdest part is that I got the notifications once already |
| 14:15.09 | Toraux | and I can manually mount and unmount from the desktop |
| 14:15.11 | uga | and how do you remove the media? |
| 14:15.45 | uga | Toraux: oh, so the devices appear and dissappear from the desktop? |
| 14:15.50 | uga | but no popup? |
| 14:16.00 | Toraux | if theyre unmounted a cd I eject the trap and pull it or if its a usb device I pull it out of hte port :P |
| 14:16.24 | Toraux | I have icons for the devices always showing if I right click->mount or right click -> unmount they mount or unmount respectively |
| 14:16.28 | uga | Toraux: errrrmmm... without safely umounting them? =) |
| 14:16.33 | uga | I mena the usb |
| 14:16.48 | Toraux | I unmount them yes :P |
| 14:16.52 | uga | ahk |
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| 14:17.24 | Toraux | I just want a usb device or cd to auto mount when I insert it and the kde icon to change to the mounted state :P |
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| 14:23.10 | uga | Toraux: watch out with the automount thing. It did real weird stuff to me with vmware running |
| 14:23.27 | uga | it'd mount it while it was being used by vmware.. and the device would go unusable |
| 14:23.40 | uga | no more you could mount it in either vmware or linux, until you rebooted |
| 14:24.20 | uga | Toraux: basically vmware removed the device, and kubuntu's kde kept mounting it back |
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| 14:28.30 | Toraux | I think i'll just deal with non auto for now at least |
| 14:28.59 | Toraux | was getting excited about being able to set it up to drop a cd in and have it ripped |
| 14:29.32 | uga | heh |
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| 14:30.06 | uga | I'd rather see the opposite. You get a blank CD. Write the title there, pop the CD in, and it gets filled up |
| 14:30.09 | uga | that'd rock |
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| 14:31.07 | Toraux | and I liked the idea of having a different icon on my desktop if a particular media was in |
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| 14:32.12 | uga | Toraux: you can just use the media notification applet, and you'll get a new icon if the media is in |
| 14:33.18 | Toraux | do you know what that package is called? |
| 14:33.46 | uga | no, packages are about distributions. I believe it's part of kdemultimedia? |
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| 14:34.16 | uga | Toraux: it's called "storage media" |
| 14:34.19 | uga | you don't have it installed? |
| 14:34.35 | Toraux | nope |
| 14:34.45 | wolsni | it should be a part of kdebase actually |
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| 14:35.04 | uga | ok, then it's strange he doesn't have it installed |
| 14:35.08 | wolsni | but on gentoo I understand they tend to break things up a bit |
| 14:35.25 | uga | uhm... you just emerge kdebase. You can do that |
| 14:35.33 | uga | or at least you could when I dropped the distro |
| 14:36.52 | wolsni | i think there's a #gentoo-kde channel you should check in at this point |
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| 15:10.32 | naknomik | Is KDE 4 available on Kubuntu? |
| 15:11.06 | Narishma | naknomik: ask in #kubuntu |
| 15:11.52 | tdik | naknomik: there are some packages kdelibs5 for example |
| 15:12.00 | annma | I was a ghost Jucato |
| 15:12.17 | Jucato | ooooooh |
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| 15:15.33 | sredna | it is |
| 15:15.44 | Jucato | oooh long time no see sredna :) |
| 15:15.48 | oGALAXYo | i leeched that new iso from beiner.. |
| 15:15.51 | oGALAXYo | but it didnt really work. |
| 15:16.11 | psofa | is there any ui unzipping/taring/.... prog for use within konqueror? |
| 15:16.23 | Jucato | ark |
| 15:16.30 | wolsni | psofa: ark should add context menus in konqueror |
| 15:16.35 | psofa | thanks |
| 15:18.53 | pinotree | :) |
| 15:19.34 | Jucato | yay! :) |
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| 15:20.45 | BULLE | hi, i have installed kde 3.93 in my homedir, compilation etc works fine, and i can start single kde4 apps just fine, but, i cant find any "startkde" script or similar, so how do i start the whole kde4 desktop experience ? |
| 15:22.02 | sredna | BULLE: i have /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde (kubuntu packages) |
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| 15:23.09 | oGALAXYo | sredna: are there any usable kde4 livecd's besides the one from beiner |
| 15:23.13 | BULLE | sredna: hmmm, i am running fedora, so there are no prebulid packages, so i just compiled them all, as per the build and install instructions |
| 15:23.22 | Jucato | but if compiled, it should be in $KDEDIR (which, according to techbase, would be /home/kde-devel/kde) |
| 15:24.15 | Jucato | BULLE: what does "type startkde" give you? |
| 15:24.25 | BULLE | Jucato: my KDEDIR is set to export KDEDIR=$HOME/kde and i dont have any startkde script in there, not in $KDEDIR/bin/ either |
| 15:24.44 | BULLE | Jucato: any clue in wich package startkde should be in ? in case i have missed some package |
| 15:24.45 | sredna | oGALAXYo: no idea |
| 15:25.06 | Jucato | BULLE: not sure, but should be kdebase |
| 15:25.11 | BULLE | but that sounds a bit wierd, as i have compiled most packages, and startkde would be in kdelibs or kdebase or similar, and i have both those installed, otherwise i wouldnt be able to run dolphin, etc |
| 15:25.37 | BULLE | well, lets grep the sourcedir then, and see if i can find anything there |
| 15:25.46 | Jucato | BULLE: kdebase/workspace |
| 15:27.31 | BULLE | Jucato: thanks, will grep there |
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| 15:28.41 | BULLE | Jucato: i just put all the packages on build during the night, perhasp something failed |
| 15:28.48 | BULLE | Jucato: thanks for you help |
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| 15:31.08 | oGALAXYo | any recommendations for a "normal" notebook ? |
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| 15:49.17 | kwtm | Where does KMail store actual attachments? Not in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail (that's just the main mail message, not the attachment of the saved message). [Kubuntu 6.06 LTS] |
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| 15:50.47 | ganymede | kwtm: messages are embedded in the mail file |
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| 15:51.17 | ganymede | kwtm: there should be a block of random leters and numbers. that's your attachment. |
| 15:52.07 | kwtm | ganymede: Thanks for your help. I've lost a large (1.3MB) attachment but suspect it's still on my hard drive, except KMail doesn't know it's there. To test this, what I've done is |
| 15:53.33 | kwtm | ganymede: I've looked for other attachments. There's a 480k attachment on another email message that *does* come up properly. But when I look at the actual mail files (sort by size), I don't see anything larger than about 10k. Are you saying that those messages (named with random numbers/letters) should be at least 480k for the message that I'm looking for? Or is the attachment stashed elsewhere in some other directory? |
| 15:55.51 | kwtm | ganymede: Oh, wait --I think I've found the 480k one. Great. Now I can look for the missing 1.3MB one. |
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| 15:57.32 | timrs | Is there a way to force konversation or kmail to startup closed so only its systray applet is there (just like kopete)? |
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| 15:58.14 | timrs | ello wolsni |
| 15:58.34 | wolsni | hi timrs |
| 15:59.49 | Sho_ | timrs: The SVN version of Konversation has an option for that; alternatively you could run the stable version via a wrapper script that starts it and then used the DCOP interface to hide the window |
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| 15:59.59 | timrs | ok |
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| 16:00.07 | timrs | thats kool i spose |
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| 16:01.13 | kwtm | timrs: I figured out one way you can do it, just now. |
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| 16:01.35 | timrs | ok |
| 16:01.35 | kwtm | timrs: You'll need to type this on the command line (or put konversation in a shell script file) |
| 16:01.41 | timrs | what? |
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| 16:01.52 | Jucato | happy software freedom day! :) |
| 16:01.56 | kwtm | timrs: After you start conversation, run the command "dcop konversation main_window hide" |
| 16:02.07 | wolsni | Jucato: software freedom day? |
| 16:02.11 | timrs | kool |
| 16:02.20 | timrs | i was looking in dcop, but in the wrong places.. |
| 16:02.28 | Jucato | wolsni: yes. SFD |
| 16:02.49 | kwtm | timrs: This tells dcop to tell konversation to hide the main window. Oh, you're familiar with dcop already. Yeah, that tree structure takes some time to look around in and figure out which command you want. |
| 16:03.00 | timrs | ya.. |
| 16:03.03 | kwtm | timrs: I'll leave the KMail part of it to your own devices, then? :) |
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| 16:03.18 | timrs | i think i can put a .desktop file somewhere that runs that command after it starts up |
| 16:03.23 | timrs | ill mess around a bit.. |
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| 16:04.00 | kwtm | Jucato: What software freedom day? |
| 16:04.03 | wolsni | well I suppose we aren't the target audience |
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| 16:04.08 | wolsni | this is cool though |
| 16:04.13 | Jucato | well, yes and no :) |
| 16:04.19 | wolsni | so close to my birthday :) |
| 16:04.33 | Jucato | for us FOSS users, we celebrate. for non-FOSS users, they get educated :D |
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| 16:04.44 | kwtm | Jucato: Oh, we're supposed to run only MS Windows on Software Freedom Day, so we can better appreciate the KDE software that we run all the other days? |
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| 16:04.49 | Jucato | http://softwarefreedomday.org/ |
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| 16:07.00 | kwtm | Here's a question for ganymede or anyone else: I think I've found my missing email with the huge attachment (4.8MB, not 1.3MB as I had thought). But KMail doesn't know it's there --I guess the index file doesn't point to it. How can I get at the archived file? |
| 16:07.25 | timrs | for X-KDE-autostart-after= does it accept commands or what? would i be able to put konversation there so a command runs after konversation? |
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| 16:08.08 | kristjan_ | where is the config file that tells what window decoration is currently used? |
| 16:08.11 | kwtm | The archived file is a MIME attachment, so is there something I can use to extract the attachment? Can I email the file to myself, or import it into KMail, or something, ganymede? |
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| 16:08.41 | kwtm | timrs: I just use a shell script as the "program-to-be-run". |
| 16:08.43 | ganymede | kwtm: maybe you can import it into kmail and then save the attachment elsewhere |
| 16:08.51 | timrs | fine... |
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| 16:09.32 | kwtm | ganymede: Hmm... why is the "Import messages" menu option on KMail > File grayed out? Do I have to drag and drop it, or something? |
| 16:09.38 | ganymede | there should be a kcontrol module to batch edit config options common to a lot of |
| 16:09.49 | ganymede | KDE apps, like whether it should started in the systray, or with a visible main window |
| 16:10.05 | ganymede | kwtm: sorry, i don't know. i don't use kmail |
| 16:10.30 | kristjan_ | ganymede: $/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ? |
| 16:11.18 | kwtm | ganymede: Hey, it worked! I just used File > Open rather than File > Import Messages. Thanks! You sure are knowledgeable for someone who doesn't use KMail! (What email program do you use? Thunderbird? Do you have any recommendations?) |
| 16:11.51 | ganymede | kwtm: i use webmail atm, but i used to use claws-mail |
| 16:12.38 | ganymede | kristjan_: that's not a kcontrol module. btw, i don't think it's any of kwin's business whether an application is docked or visible, since it deals with windows, an not apps? |
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| 16:12.49 | Jucato | kristjan_: yeah kwinrc. PluginLib= |
| 16:13.27 | kwtm | ganymede: Thanks. Will check it out. |
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| 16:13.35 | kwtm | Bye, all! timrs, good luck! |
| 16:13.44 | timrs | cya |
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| 16:17.54 | kristjan_ | anyone here using suse? |
| 16:19.26 | thiago_home | try #suse |
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| 16:41.39 | sredna | Sho_: how can i run /nick through dcop? |
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| 16:42.36 | Jucato | dcop konversation irc sayToAll ? |
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| 16:43.21 | sredna | that worked :) |
| 16:43.28 | Jucato | great :) |
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| 16:43.48 | idem | Hi ! |
| 16:43.57 | Jucato | Sho_ might have a better/more correct/cleaner answer... :) |
| 16:45.01 | sredna | nm |
| 16:45.25 | sredna | since freenode kicks me off about every 10 mins, anything that works would be fine |
| 16:45.32 | kristjan_ | speaking of dcop - how to restart window decoration, say plastik? |
| 16:45.35 | Jucato | oh why is it kicking you? |
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| 16:45.51 | sredna | doesn't everybody get kicked? |
| 16:45.55 | Jucato | nope |
| 16:45.55 | wolsni | kristjan_: i don't think you can restart just the window decoration |
| 16:46.12 | wolsni | but you can restart the window manager with "kwin --replace" |
| 16:46.13 | sredna | well, maybe not every 10 mins, but quite often |
| 16:47.01 | Jucato | sredna: hm.. is it complaining that your not identifying to your nick or with an incorrect password? |
| 16:47.16 | sredna | no |
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| 16:48.30 | sredna | i am logged in. sometime soon, i will loose the connection, and after that my nick is taken, so i want the script to fix that for me |
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| 16:49.12 | pinotree | sredna: /msg nickserv ghost yournick nickpassword |
| 16:49.17 | pinotree | then /nick yournick |
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| 16:51.48 | sredna | pinotree: sure, i just want a script to do that, since it happens quite ofteh |
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| 17:16.13 | Artimus | I'm having trouble using KDE with Fluxbox. System tray apps don't work. They're docked on the Fluxbox panel, not the kicker panel. So, when I dock something, they disappear until I kill the process. |
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| 17:17.03 | kspath | Artimus: try kicker with openbox3 |
| 17:17.05 | oGALAXYo | use kwin |
| 17:17.21 | Artimus | ok, two very unhelpful answers, but thanks anyway... |
| 17:17.52 | kspath | I love some KDE apps konsole in particular |
| 17:18.11 | pinotree | Artimus: there can be only one system tray at once, you either use fluxbox's or kde's, but not both |
| 17:18.19 | wolsni | Artimus: seems like you should look into disabling fluxbox's system tray |
| 17:18.47 | kspath | but is there a standalone version of Konsole so that (kded klauncher kdeinit ...) are not needed also? |
| 17:19.14 | pinotree | kspath: you misunderstand what they are for - they are needed for konsole |
| 17:20.02 | kspath | pinotree: no, I do understand they are needed. That is why I am asking if there is a standalone version of konsole that I have not yet heard about... |
| 17:20.17 | pinotree | konsole *is* standalone |
| 17:21.36 | pinotree | and no, you won't find some "konsole" without those services, as they are needed at kdelibs level |
| 17:21.49 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 17:22.02 | kspath | pinotree: I launch konsole on a machine not running the K desktop nor kicker or any other KDE stuff other than kdm. Not only does Konsole start but so do (kded klauncher kdeinit ...) |
| 17:22.20 | oGALAXYo | -?- |
| 17:22.22 | kspath | pinotree: ok, thank you. I thought I would ask |
| 17:22.32 | Artimus | kspath: try a different terminal? xterm or one of the hundreds of others. |
| 17:22.46 | pinotree | kspath: again, they are needed - no kde application will start without those |
| 17:22.47 | kspath | konsole is quite quite nice so I was hoping |
| 17:22.59 | pinotree | Artimus: did you got an "helpful answer" yet? |
| 17:23.29 | Artimus | pinotree: Not so much yet, no :P I might try recompiling fluxbox without KDE support. |
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| 17:23.42 | kspath | pinotree: exactly as my tests have shown. the cost of those extras is heavy if only one KDE app/util is running but if you have a few that cost is less and less. |
| 17:23.44 | pinotree | Artimus: well, you had one |
| 17:24.04 | pinotree | kspath: ... so? |
| 17:24.24 | pinotree | why should you care about those? they are kdelibs services |
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| 17:24.57 | kspath | pinotree: I have found that if I just accept that I love konsole and like kicker a lot than since I am already paying the price of the extra stuff |
| 17:25.12 | oGALAXYo | kspath: most of the apps need these services.. even if for their own needs. |
| 17:25.15 | pinotree | kspath: that's not "extra stuff", that's "needed stuff" |
| 17:25.24 | kspath | pinotree: trying to squeeze down as much as possible but still have the better/best apps |
| 17:25.25 | Artimus | pinotree: Yeah, you did, there can only be one system tray. I'm not 100% sure how fluxbox's code works, but I suspect the kde configure option (--enable-kde or whatever it is) gives that docking code. The last time I ran fluxbox without KDE Support, system tray applications started just floating on the desktop. Kicker may pick it up. |
| 17:25.30 | pinotree | kspath: again, you should not even care about those |
| 17:26.05 | wolsni | Artimus: or you could remove the system tray from your kicker panel and just use flux boxes |
| 17:26.15 | wolsni | two clicks + no recompile |
| 17:26.22 | kspath | pinotree: it appears to be extra stuff on the surface though. I understand in general their point and purpose and it is a very nice and scalable and efficient way to go |
| 17:26.39 | kspath | pinotree: it is not a complaint. I am not complaining. |
| 17:26.41 | pinotree | kspath: again, it's -not- extra |
| 17:27.09 | pinotree | kspath: why you see it as "extra" while it's "needed"? |
| 17:27.32 | Jucato | kded -> based on how daemons are named, one would conclude it means "KDE Daemon"... sounds scary not to be running |
| 17:27.35 | pinotree | Artimus: that's something you should then ask to the fluxbox help channels - from what i remember, if you start a "system tray" application, it takes the "ownership" of the tray apps, so the last apps takes "all" |
| 17:28.12 | pinotree | klauncher → mostly lanuncher the kde ioslaves (file:/ is one as well) |
| 17:28.19 | pinotree | *launches |
| 17:28.20 | Jucato | klauncher -> k for kde, and launcher seems to mean "to start something". wouldn't I need it to start KDE stuff? |
| 17:28.47 | Jucato | kdeinit -> kde + init(ializer/ialization/initial)? something used at the beginning... |
| 17:29.03 | pinotree | kdeinit → it does all the initialization stuff for *any* kde application (and takes care of running the dcop stuff, in case) |
| 17:29.13 | kspath | pinotree: if I view the process list they each show up. other apps include that overhead in their own code while kde has a nice way of sharing those resources. Yet it will appear to be separate to people trimming down their resource usage. |
| 17:29.16 | Jucato | heh my guesses were almost close :) |
| 17:29.37 | Jucato | what other apps? |
| 17:30.14 | pinotree | kspath: chopping resources just opening the process manager and looking at unknown stuff is the worst way to ""trim down"" resources |
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| 17:30.46 | pinotree | especially that if you remove them, you can *not* start any kde application |
| 17:30.58 | pinotree | (and removing them would mean uninstalling kdelibs) |
| 17:31.13 | pinotree | so, leave them alone, and don't touch them |
| 17:31.29 | kspath | pinotree: there are numerous people similar to myself who like kde apps but have no want/need of the kdesktop or gnome desktop and use WMs like ion3 but still like gui apps especially nice ones from KDE and GNOME |
| 17:31.49 | Jucato | kspath: this situation is not particular to KDE only |
| 17:32.00 | kspath | Jucato: agreed |
| 17:32.03 | pinotree | kspath: so= just run konsole, and don't care much |
| 17:32.03 | Jucato | even GNOME apps must install gnomelibs and some GNOME processes |
| 17:32.12 | kspath | Jucato: it is not a complaint |
| 17:32.20 | kspath | Jucato: it is an observation |
| 17:32.22 | Jucato | it's not a counter-complaint |
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| 17:32.27 | Jucato | it's an education :) |
| 17:32.28 | Artimus | wolsni: When KDE starts, it hides the fluxbox panel (I tried that already), but thanks. |
| 17:32.51 | kspath | pinotree: Yes, agreed. |
| 17:33.09 | wolsni | Artimus: you mean kdesktop shows up on top of the fluxbox panel? |
| 17:33.17 | Artimus | yeah |
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| 17:33.28 | Jucato | you could always research on these processes, discover/learn that pinotree is correct, and start to not mind these processes :) |
| 17:33.30 | pinotree | kspath: it's like caring about much of the kernel stuff that runs - why caring? |
| 17:33.42 | wolsni | Artimus: temporarily disable kdesktop (dcopquit kdesktop) and then move the fluxbox panel to a higher layer |
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| 17:33.47 | pinotree | they are helper for the kernel |
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| 17:34.12 | Artimus | wolsni: Oh, hey, great idea. |
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| 17:35.30 | Artimus | If nothing else, I'll use the fluxbox panel. I have no preference either way, they both work for me. Thanks |
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| 18:00.03 | kspath | I think you will continue to have people who LOVE some or most KDE apps but could care less about the desktop. It might help to make sure most of those things are in #kde faq and maybe add that to topic assuming it becomes common/annoying enough |
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| 18:02.13 | kspath | so far I have seen/noticed that fluxbox/openbox/ion3 and several like them are the common ones that will try to use some of KDE like kicker and/or konsole ... |
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| 18:04.28 | kspath | they will either have issues come up or questions about (kdeinit klauncher kded dcopserver) |
| 18:06.03 | kspath | in an ideal world with unlimited resources you could have someone keep an eye on distributions howtos regarding openbox and fluxbox and ion and ... and know ahead of time what they are trying to do and give a default answer in your #kde FAQ |
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| 18:07.13 | oGALAXYo | "in an ideal world with unlimited resources" right... but seeing this in a economics point of view you are just "one minority" of what "the most majority" wants.. and they want a full desktop.. kde IS a full desktop. |
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| 18:07.48 | oGALAXYo | ok teatime |
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| 18:09.04 | sambiase | hi there..i have a question... im used to Suse .. i run Konsole in suse... to change to a previous dir i use cd.. the problem is that i also run Backtrack...that distro also comes with Konsole...but it does not accept cd .. |
| 18:09.30 | oGALAXYo | try .. |
| 18:09.41 | Liquid_Fire | sambiase: that's not a problem of Konsole but of the shell |
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| 18:10.12 | sambiase | Liquid_Fire: right... is that a way of changing that? or how do i change to a previous dir if i cant cd.. ??? |
| 18:10.12 | Liquid_Fire | sambiase: do you have a space between the cd and the .. ? |
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| 18:10.59 | sambiase | Liquid_Fire: omgggggggggggg.... was simple as that? thanksssssss |
| 18:11.03 | sambiase | ahaha |
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| 18:13.16 | Liquid_Fire | it's actually strange that it would work in suse like that, unless they've specifically made it so |
| 18:13.31 | Liquid_Fire | without a space, i mean |
| 18:14.05 | shipleythump | fairly new linux user, I know the basics, but having problems installing packages, can anyone help? |
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| 18:14.21 | Liquid_Fire | what distro? |
| 18:14.31 | shipleythump | sabayon |
| 18:14.35 | Liquid_Fire | (and you'd be luckier asking in your distro's channel) |
| 18:14.45 | shipleythump | i tried, but no one is talking in it |
| 18:14.54 | Liquid_Fire | what's the trouble? |
| 18:15.23 | shipleythump | well i have downloads for my graphix card qeued, but i don't know how to actually start the download |
| 18:15.33 | shipleythump | i have been messing with it for a while now, and nothing seems to work |
| 18:15.43 | shipleythump | i need to update my ATI drivers |
| 18:16.34 | Liquid_Fire | what program are you using for package management? |
| 18:17.11 | Liquid_Fire | i'm familiar with Gentoo and Sabayon is based on that, but I don't know if they're not using some front-end or something.. |
| 18:17.17 | shipleythump | i got someone in my distro channel |
| 18:17.18 | shipleythump | thanks |
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| 18:25.40 | kspath | in case I forgot: Thank you for konsole kicker k3b arson amarok konqueror krita and karbon14 they are all quite nice thank you again |
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| 18:27.44 | blauhaut | hiya |
| 18:28.27 | blauhaut | Is it posibnle to have different panels on different desktops ? |
| 18:29.08 | blauhaut | on gnome it is posible to have differen gnome-panel on different desktops |
| 18:29.46 | blauhaut | but on KDE when i change my desktop i have still the same panel and same windows names on panel |
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| 18:30.22 | Liquid_Fire | you can set it to show only the windows from the current desktop on the panel |
| 18:30.35 | Liquid_Fire | as for different panels on the different desktops, i don't know if it's possible |
| 18:31.17 | blauhaut | compiz have some desktop problems with KDE |
| 18:31.29 | Liquid_Fire | ah, compiz |
| 18:31.41 | Liquid_Fire | yeah, that option didn't work with compiz last time i tried |
| 18:31.51 | blauhaut | Liquid_Fire: yeap it is not :) |
| 18:32.03 | blauhaut | Liquid_Fire: do you have some idea on KDE4 |
| 18:32.11 | blauhaut | is it going to work ? |
| 18:32.54 | Liquid_Fire | i doubt it, compiz tends to focus on gnome more.. but kde 4 will probably have some effects of its own, so there might be no need :) |
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| 18:33.30 | blauhaut | maybe i should ask like that : is it going to fix ? |
| 18:33.30 | blauhaut | Liquid_Fire: ic thanks |
| 18:33.41 | Liquid_Fire | well, it's a compiz problem afaik |
| 18:33.45 | Liquid_Fire | not a kde problem |
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| 18:34.29 | kspath | maybe file a bugreport with compiz? |
| 18:35.18 | Liquid_Fire | maybe... but i don't use compiz, nor am i completely certain it's a compiz issue :) |
| 18:35.23 | kspath | else check on status of an existent bugreport about compiz/kde desktop panels |
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| 18:36.07 | kspath | blauhaut: maybe go to compiz site and look into their development/bugreporting and see if it was reported already |
| 18:36.22 | blauhaut | kspath: i will check it good idea |
| 18:36.32 | blauhaut | but maybe it is a kde problem heh ? |
| 18:36.40 | kspath | blauhaut: very likely reported already since KDE is quite popular |
| 18:37.25 | kspath | blauhaut: if it is on KDE end the bugreport(s) on compiz end will say so and might point to exactly what/who/when/where/how |
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| 18:48.29 | sredna | wow, my script now works :o |
| 18:49.39 | tstaerk | I have /foo/bar/whatever in a textedit. I double-click on bar and all the string gets selected. How can I change this, e.g. that everything between / gets selected ? |
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| 18:52.45 | Mirrakor | tstaerk: window behaviour |
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| 18:56.24 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: how ? KDE 4 or KDE 3 ? |
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| 18:56.36 | Mirrakor | KDE3 but should be in KDE 4 too |
| 18:56.54 | Mirrakor | Kcontrol center |
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| 18:58.04 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: how ? In 3.5, I do not see it in window behavior in kcontrol ? |
| 18:58.38 | Mirrakor | oh come on it's very intuitive :o |
| 18:58.48 | Mirrakor | -> Desktop(the blue desk with paper and pen on it) -> Window properties -> titlebar |
| 18:58.58 | Mirrakor | doubleclick on titlebar |
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| 18:59.40 | tstaerk | I do not have Window properties |
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| 19:00.18 | Mirrakor | sure, it's some other name in English, I don't remember all the English names ;) |
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| 19:01.12 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: wie ist der Name denn auf Deutsch ? |
| 19:01.18 | Mirrakor | lol |
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| 19:01.31 | dereine | #kde.de ?? |
| 19:01.34 | Mirrakor | Arbeitsfläche -> Fenstereigenschaften |
| 19:01.38 | dereine | sry |
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| 19:01.55 | Mirrakor | dereine: should be a quicky from now on - no need to change channel ;) |
| 19:02.13 | Mirrakor | then on "titelleiste" |
| 19:02.58 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: I do not have german KDE installed. |
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| 19:03.13 | Mirrakor | tstaerk: you see the symbols? |
| 19:03.21 | Fatih | hi , has anyone ever used RKWARD in this channel ? |
| 19:03.44 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: yes, a desktop with a pen on it |
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| 19:04.17 | litb | i prefer english UIs |
| 19:04.28 | Mirrakor | ok, then there should be 2 identical symbols, showing two windows with a Kde logo on it - right? |
| 19:04.37 | litb | they are compact, slick and descriptive |
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| 19:04.58 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: right, white ones. |
| 19:05.25 | Mirrakor | tstaerk: one should have a Single-String name, and the other one should at least have 2 strings, right? |
| 19:05.36 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: window behavior and window-specific settings |
| 19:05.51 | Mirrakor | window behaviour |
| 19:06.02 | tstaerk | ok. Then, titlebar actions ? |
| 19:06.05 | Mirrakor | then you see a few tabs on the tob, |
| 19:06.05 | Mirrakor | right |
| 19:06.27 | Mirrakor | and then select the reaction you want :) |
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| 19:06.58 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: I want that double-clicking selects a text between certain delimitors. E.g. in konsole. |
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| 19:07.21 | Mirrakor | uhm.. I don't know but I guess that's not supported.. |
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| 19:07.28 | Liquid_Fire | tstaerk: konsole has a setting for that |
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| 19:07.38 | tstaerk | Mirrakor: ok, thanks. |
| 19:07.42 | Liquid_Fire | tstaerk: just open its config and it's on the first tab at the bottom |
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| 19:08.01 | tstaerk | Liquid_Fire: I see - thanks!!!° |
| 19:08.03 | Liquid_Fire | tstaerk: remove the / from there and you're done |
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| 19:08.17 | Mirrakor | what Liquid_Fire says might be, the Kcontrol setting is just for the general window behaviour (like, maximize, minimize, window lifter, etc. ) |
| 19:08.33 | tstaerk | well okay, problem solved :) |
| 19:08.37 | tstaerk | thanks |
| 19:08.58 | Liquid_Fire | Mirrakor: what he is referring to is double clicking on a word in konsole, not on the title bar :) |
| 19:09.13 | Mirrakor | ouch :D |
| 19:09.39 | Mirrakor | I just read "I double click on bar" and I assumed he meant the titlebar - sorry |
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| 19:18.09 | chuy_max | is there an easy way to delete konsole lines? (clear command just moves the lines up) |
| 19:18.28 | chuy_max | I have thought in using some bash script like this: string=""; for i in $(seq 1000); do string+="\n"; done; echo -e $string |
| 19:18.48 | dereine | try "clear" |
| 19:18.49 | Liquid_Fire | won't always work, as you can have your konsole's history set to Unlimited |
| 19:19.08 | Liquid_Fire | i don't think it's possible from a script, and i don't see why it should be.. |
| 19:19.43 | chuy_max | dereine: as I told, clear just moves the lines up, when I'm debugging an application it is uncomfortable to have other lines above the output of my app |
| 19:19.57 | dereine | ah ok |
| 19:20.25 | chuy_max | Liquid_Fire, I'm just moving the lines 1000 lines up |
| 19:20.29 | chuy_max | with that command |
| 19:20.41 | Liquid_Fire | how is that different from what clear does? |
| 19:20.55 | Liquid_Fire | clear just moves the lines so they're just above the visible area |
| 19:21.39 | chuy_max | because if you move the scroll bar up, and you are watching a long log of your app, you don't know where the previous app's log and your recent log app starts |
| 19:22.01 | Liquid_Fire | ah, sorry then, didn't completely understand your intention :) |
| 19:22.26 | Liquid_Fire | so just output newlines or something, or launch a separate konsole window for each app |
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| 19:44.32 | JvA | Hi! I recently tried to install kde4, using the kde-svn overlay for Gentoo. Everything seems to almost work fine, except that when I log in, it tells me it can't talk to klauncher. Have I forgot to install some package? |
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| 19:50.26 | zblach_ | hi. quick question. I'm using KDE 3.5.6, and my panel is stuck locked. where can I find the persistant information file, so that I may remedy this? |
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| 19:51.24 | dev3d | hi all |
| 19:51.41 | zblach_ | hey dev |
| 19:52.09 | dev3d | someone knows why i get the message "file name for dropped contents" when i try to drag a link from the firefox toolbar to the desktop? |
| 19:52.35 | pinotree | because there's text? |
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| 19:52.58 | pinotree | zblach_: right click on it → uncheck "lock panel" ? |
| 19:53.04 | zblach_ | pinotree: stays locked |
| 19:53.09 | zblach_ | it's stuck locked |
| 19:53.24 | dev3d | yup but last time i installed it was just saving shortcut links |
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| 19:53.58 | dev3d | now it saves text files? why they changed it? |
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| 19:54.30 | Liquid_Fire | maybe firefox reports wrong mime types.. does the same happen with konqueror? |
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| 19:55.22 | dev3d | uhm no |
| 19:55.36 | dev3d | i just updated firefox but still ... nothing changed |
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| 19:58.18 | zblach_ | i know the persistant information is stored somewhere in my homedir, but I can't find it |
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| 19:58.42 | vdv | hi all |
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| 19:59.11 | vdv | what's the name of the KVocTrain's channel? |
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| 20:03.38 | zblach_ | no clues? |
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| 20:04.58 | Sho_ | vdv: #kde-edu |
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| 20:05.46 | Liquid_Fire | zblach_: .kde/share/config/kickerrc, Locked=true/false |
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| 20:09.34 | zblach_ | Liquid_Fire: thanks tonnes. i'd not seen that anywhere |
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| 20:10.23 | zblach_ | Liquid_Fire: do I just append 'Locked=false'? or does it belong in a certain section? |
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| 20:12.27 | shinda | anyone know how to limit maximized windows from taking the length of 2 screens when running xinerama? |
| 20:12.38 | benJIman | shinda: It won't by default with kwin. |
| 20:12.40 | Liquid_Fire | zblach_: in mine there is a Locked=true in the [General] section |
| 20:12.43 | benJIman | They'll maximise to just one monitor. |
| 20:12.54 | zblach_ | and then I restart kicker? |
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| 20:13.06 | benJIman | shinda: Of course if you're using xgl it won't work. |
| 20:13.27 | Liquid_Fire | zblach_: probably... maybe "dcop kicker MainApplication-Interface reparseConfiguration" would work |
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| 20:13.56 | apokryphos | xgl should have dual-display support now, so it should work if you've got an up-to-date version of xgl |
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| 20:14.01 | shinda | benJiman, I'm not using xgl, but was wondering how do I enable it in kwin? |
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| 20:14.35 | zblach_ | hrm |
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| 20:14.46 | shinda | would I have to re-install from source? |
| 20:14.57 | zblach_ | when I reload kicker and look at the kickerrc file, it removes any changes I make to it |
| 20:15.14 | benJIman | shinda: You'd have to specifically de-enable it. |
| 20:15.27 | benJIman | Or if you've built it yourself you've probably forgotten to compile xinearama support. |
| 20:15.35 | benJIman | Which would be amusing because you'd have to rebuild the entire of KDE. |
| 20:15.37 | Liquid_Fire | zblach_: sorry.. no idea, then |
| 20:16.16 | shinda | benJiman, I actually installed it using the kubuntu installation so never changed much, but how would I go abouts speicifcally de-enabling it? |
| 20:16.29 | benJIman | shinda: building it yourself perhaps. |
| 20:17.24 | zblach_ | Liquid_Fire: appreciate the aid tho' |
| 20:17.39 | shinda | benJiMan thanks for the help, I'll give it a try and see if I can find anything I was earler under the impression that post kde 2 xinerama support was enabled by default |
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| 20:17.51 | benJIman | shinda: it was. |
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| 20:18.16 | benJIman | shinda: As I said, you have probably done something to deacetivate it, assuming you are indeed using kwin, and not compiz etc. |
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| 20:20.39 | shinda | benJiman, can I download Kwin on is it part of kdelibs or something else? |
| 20:20.51 | bsckdq | sup |
| 20:20.52 | pinotree | it's part of kdebase |
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| 20:21.15 | shinda | thans pinotree |
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| 20:34.46 | zblach_ | man, i can't find anything to unlock kpanel |
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| 20:36.12 | Aondo | hmm quite ironic that when you wanna send a gpg message in kopete, it screams out on your monitor; OUTGOING ENCRYPTED MESSAGE:" :P |
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| 20:37.18 | zblach_ | Aondo: even worse: when i'm using lynx, it broadcasts to all my kopete contacts "ZBLACH_ IS DOWNLOADING ASCII PRAWN!" |
| 20:38.10 | oGALAXYo | ;) |
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| 20:42.46 | Aondo | zblach_ hehe |
| 20:43.28 | zblach_ | jumbo shrimp; now those are ironic prawns |
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| 20:47.51 | zblach_ | brb |
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| 20:49.16 | zblach | ok. upgrade to 3.5.7 complete |
| 20:49.18 | zblach | kpanel still locked :( |
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| 21:07.57 | timte | Can I burn an mpeg file to a DVD with k3b? |
| 21:08.59 | Sho_ | yes |
| 21:09.27 | Sho_ | o.O |
| 21:10.04 | timte | Sho_: how? |
| 21:10.34 | Sho_ | make a new "Video DVD Project" and drag it to the VIDEO_TS folder |
| 21:10.46 | Sho_ | of course you can also burn an MPEG to a data DVD though .. |
| 21:11.00 | shinda | hey guys when I try making kdebase I get an error when it gets to konsole, do I need to installing something before kdebase? |
| 21:11.21 | Sho_ | shinda: kdelibs |
| 21:11.45 | shinda | anything I need before kdelibs? |
| 21:12.33 | Sho_ | shinda: http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/ |
| 21:12.42 | shinda | thanks Sho_ |
| 21:13.37 | zblach | pah |
| 21:13.51 | zblach | would it store information elsewhere other than kickerrc? |
| 21:14.18 | Sho_ | zblach: Right-clicking it and chosing "Unlock panel" doesn't do the trick ...= |
| 21:14.23 | Sho_ | s/=/?/ |
| 21:14.37 | zblach | Sho_ nope |
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| 21:15.42 | Sho_ | hmm |
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| 21:19.36 | timte | Sho_: Error: Could not determine size of resulting image file |
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| 21:29.02 | Nyle | hey there |
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| 21:39.45 | _henry | hello |
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| 22:03.52 | Nyle | wow |
| 22:04.03 | Nyle | I didn't know you could give konsole tab text diff colors |
| 22:04.06 | Nyle | beautiful |
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| 22:05.33 | tso | so, what anti-spam should one use with kmail? |
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| 22:06.43 | PhilRod | tso: whichever one you like. |
| 22:06.58 | tso | well thats "helpfull" |
| 22:07.39 | tso | interesting, when i write something to this channel, the "log" becomes overwritten. as if the area fails to refresh correctly... |
| 22:07.45 | tso | heh, now it worked fine |
| 22:07.51 | tso | and now it failed again... |
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| 22:10.04 | mmiikkee12 | can someone explain to me what this error is trying to ask me? i never had a file there, so i don't see how it could have been deleted. and if it's deleted, how can i overwrite anything in it? http://66.177.60.104/pictures/screenshots/delta/kate-error.png |
| 22:11.04 | aseigo | mmiikkee12: the file was modified (it seems moved/removed in this case) while you had it openned in kate... |
| 22:11.17 | mmiikkee12 | aseigo, that file never existed |
| 22:11.19 | aseigo | mmiikkee12: it's asking to confirm that you actually wish to save the version in kate over whatever might be there on disk now |
| 22:11.27 | mmiikkee12 | i just tried to save a file there |
| 22:11.35 | aseigo | neat. |
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| 22:12.22 | mmiikkee12 | apparently not only have i found what's possibly the most confusingly worded dialog ever, i also found a bug :) |
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| 22:14.52 | PhilRod | tso: well, to be more verbose about it, you can create a kmail filter to run whatever spam checker you prefer, and then another filter rule to move/delete messages based on the output of that spam tool |
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| 22:15.10 | PhilRod | I believe there are more-or-less automated rules for the most popular spam filters |
| 22:15.22 | tso | so i have noticed. as spamassassin failed to install, im going for spambayes |
| 22:16.20 | mmiikkee12 | aseigo, ah, i figured out what i did now. still, that shouldn't happen |
| 22:16.37 | mmiikkee12 | i saved it under the wrong name, opened up save as, deleted the old one and saved under the correct name |
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| 22:17.48 | thresh | hey guys |
| 22:18.07 | thresh | i've got krandrtray instant segfaults when i enable second screen (lcd tv) with xrandr |
| 22:19.04 | thresh | kde 3.5.7. is it me doing something wrong or?.. |
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| 22:30.24 | duns_s | hi |
| 22:30.28 | duns_s | is the kopete pgp encryption compatible to pidgin somehow |
| 22:30.30 | duns_s | ? |
| 22:30.32 | duns_s | i got otr working |
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| 22:32.44 | virtuos | what is like synaptik in fedora 7 kde |
| 22:33.40 | apokryphos | virtuos: try #fedora |
| 22:34.32 | virtuos | help me pls |
| 22:34.41 | virtuos | what is synaptik in fedora 7 |
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| 22:43.21 | hedos | Hello. I normally switch between two keyboard layout under Canada: US and Canada (french). For some reason, the french layout is now broken. Say I want to type à, I usually press the "`" touch, then the "a" touch and it outputs a "à".. but now, if I press the "`" touch, it just outputs the ` accent. I can't get the accent on the character anymore. |
| 22:43.52 | mmiikkee12 | hedos, compose key? |
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| 22:44.02 | hedos | What do you mean? |
| 22:44.31 | mmiikkee12 | it's somewhere in the control center, it lets you hit a key (i use right windows key) then ` then a for à |
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| 22:45.06 | mmiikkee12 | look for something mentioning xkb options |
| 22:45.11 | hedos | Hmm, I guess that's ok as a temporary measure, but not good enough when I need to type some lengthy text. |
| 22:45.38 | mmiikkee12 | works fine for me... i only type french when doing homework for french class, so i don't use it much |
| 22:45.38 | hedos | I think this problem may have started after I scim/skim... an input method for Chinese characters. |
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| 22:45.53 | hedos | But this caused very undesirable issues and I ended up just uninstalling it all... |
| 22:45.59 | hedos | And maybe it messed up something. |
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| 22:46.27 | hedos | I meant: after I installed scim and skim. |
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| 22:55.23 | asarch | Hi guys |
| 22:55.28 | asarch | How is it getting along |
| 22:55.30 | asarch | ? |
| 22:55.51 | asarch | How can I use the UDF filesytem instead the ISO9660 fileystem in K3B? |
| 22:56.03 | asarch | I mean, how can I burn disc using the UDF filesystem? |
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| 23:05.12 | sabayonlive-1612 | can someone tell me if it is easy to uninstall programs from the DVD install. the CD dont work for me, and I dont want a bunch of appz i dont need. |
| 23:05.30 | sabayonlive-1612 | wrong channel, sorry |
| 23:05.35 | idem | good night everybody |
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| 23:10.53 | akrill | night |
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| 23:36.10 | azories | this is so kinky, websites dont have anything better to do then funny logo's with loseless info? www.iplobster.com lol check this www.ipchicken.com/ |
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| 23:38.01 | akrill | azories: i fail to see how either of those are kinky. but ya... all these ip info sites are stupid. |
| 23:38.36 | pinotree | azories: and what does it have to do with #kde? |
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| 23:39.08 | azories | indeed |
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