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00:40.57 | AmyRose | Now that I have my -dbg packages installed, I'm never going without them ever again. It's helpful to be able to report crashes... ^^; |
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00:42.08 | Alucad | is ther anyone who can help me with my iptables |
00:42.09 | AmyRose | Alucad: You're going to have to ask elsewhere |
00:42.13 | AmyRose | but there is a KDE program to do it |
00:42.19 | AmyRose | actually a couple of them |
00:42.23 | AmyRose | KMyFirewall and Guarddog |
00:42.29 | AmyRose | hey, wait a minute...... |
00:42.43 | AmyRose | How the heck did Guarddog end up getting away with starting with a G? |
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00:43.46 | Alucad | i just need a script to do it amyrose |
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00:45.43 | Alucad | AmyRose |
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00:52.42 | AmyRose | Alucad: How many times do I have to tell you that I am not going to date you and that you are in the WRONG CHANNEL? |
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00:55.12 | Alucad | then AmyRose, been kind enough to show me the right directions...plz |
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00:55.31 | FreshPrince | re |
00:55.50 | pcbshelp | anyone knows how to install vlc browser plugin? |
00:56.59 | ccc | pcbshelp: better ask in your distro's channel |
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00:58.09 | Alucad | need help on IPTABLES |
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01:00.11 | lunitik | Alucad: try #iptables or something? KDE isn't even related to iptables, it's crossplatform, iptables is a Linux thing. |
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01:01.01 | lunitik | pcbshelp: Again, VLC isn't related to KDE. |
01:01.11 | lunitik | pcbshelp: Unless you're using kvlc ? |
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01:11.20 | mboso | what is the name of the application that automounts removable devices? |
01:12.29 | lunitik | mboso: udev or pmount ? |
01:12.36 | lunitik | mboso: Unless your distro sucks. |
01:12.50 | mboso | kubuntu |
01:13.01 | lunitik | mboso: udev or pmount |
01:13.10 | mboso | cool. will check which |
01:13.11 | mboso | thanks |
01:13.14 | lunitik | mboso: udev detects them, pmount mounts them |
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01:13.44 | lunitik | mboso: The 'or' is because it depends what you actually mean. |
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01:41.35 | killown | I have set use my kde style in my app gtk but it does not effect why? |
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02:07.28 | DaSkreech | AmyRose: Who will you date? |
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02:12.30 | ct|kyle | Does anyone know where the files associated with multiple desktops are located? |
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02:21.07 | Rolli | kicker is getting with beryl, can anyone help me, please ? |
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02:23.37 | roland | @rolli: try this: |
02:24.08 | roland | right click on the desktop-> Run Command.... |
02:24.09 | ct|kyle | Does anyone know where the files associated with multiple desktops are located? |
02:24.15 | roland | type: kicker and press enter |
02:25.28 | Rolli | i use dcop kicker Panel restart |
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02:26.04 | Rolli | but I'm getting crazy about restarting kicker every 5 min |
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02:28.05 | DaSkreech | Rolli: write a while(true) Loop that starts kicker :) |
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02:28.20 | DaSkreech | remember to put in a sleep so that you can shut down the computer :) |
02:29.46 | killown | I am trying to set wallpaper for desktop but it don't effect |
02:29.52 | keeper | How do I start a service? |
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02:31.57 | Rolli | how do I do that ? It's a script for autostart, right ? |
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02:37.41 | killown | I am trying to set wallpaper for desktop but it don't effect |
02:37.58 | ct|kyle | how are you setting it? |
02:38.03 | Rolli | good night everybody, cu :D |
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02:39.43 | AmyRose | DaSkreech: My girlfriend =P |
02:40.01 | DaSkreech | AmyRose: Wrong answer |
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02:40.15 | DaSkreech | The Answer is Konqui :-) |
02:40.36 | AmyRose | No, he's taken by Katie, remember? |
02:41.20 | AmyRose | DaSkreech: I thought Konqi was dating Katie! =P |
02:41.40 | DaSkreech | Wait? What? |
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02:43.45 | DaSkreech | She threw him out for not admitting she was a Qt |
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02:49.18 | kkerwin | Hi, is there a channel for kdepim? |
02:50.20 | Anonycat | In Noatun, is there any way of predictably increasing or decreasing pitch by a fixed amount, rather than having to rely on an analog slider? |
02:50.49 | bluelightning | kkerwin: well, apparently it's not #kdepim or #kde-pim... |
02:51.04 | kkerwin | bluelightning: Yeah, I just tried the both of those. |
02:51.40 | bluelightning | well there's #kontact apparently but it's not for user questions |
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02:52.23 | kkerwin | Well, I suppose I can ask my question here. I understand that work was being done a while ago on syncml support for kontact. Anyone here know anything about its current status? |
02:55.11 | killown | I am trying to set wallpaper for desktop but it don't effect can anyone help me? |
02:55.50 | ct|kyle | killown: how are you setting the wallpaper? |
02:56.34 | ct|kyle | by configure desktop or by something else? |
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02:57.26 | killown | <PROTECTED> |
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02:57.55 | bluelightning | kkerwin: well, I'm guessing that would be done via kitchensync + opensync |
02:58.02 | ct|kyle | are you setting it to the desktop that you are on? |
02:58.09 | bluelightning | opensync does support syncml |
02:58.11 | killown | ct|kyle yes |
02:58.17 | killown | and too have set for all desktops |
02:58.22 | killown | but does not effect |
02:58.24 | kkerwin | bluelightning: kitchensync does? |
02:58.28 | killown | gtk-qt themes not works |
02:58.37 | killown | maybe a problem of permissions? |
02:58.49 | bluelightning | kkerwin: kitchensync (as of kde 3.5.7) is just a frontend for opensync, so yes |
02:59.03 | bluelightning | I have not tried it with syncml though |
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02:59.13 | kkerwin | bluelightning: Pardon, I read your last as "does not" for some reason. *grin* |
02:59.20 | ct|kyle | killown: not sure what type of picture are you using |
02:59.30 | killown | ct|kyle pictures default wallpaper |
02:59.47 | killown | ct|kyle I am set default picture kde |
03:00.14 | kkerwin | bluelightning: Ok. I will look into that, then. I doubt Ubuntu packages have been released for KDE 3.5.7; would you know off hand? |
03:00.17 | ct|kyle | killown: do you have position as scaled? |
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03:00.45 | killown | ct|kyle nope |
03:00.50 | bluelightning | kkerwin: I think they have but I'm not positive, I don't update my kubuntu laptop very often |
03:01.19 | killown | ct|kyle I cannot to set colors for desktop too |
03:01.19 | kkerwin | bluelightning: Ok. Thanks; I'll see if google has that answer. In any event, thanks for the help. |
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03:02.09 | ct|kyle | killown: so are the options blocked? |
03:02.19 | killown | ct|kyle nope |
03:02.28 | bluelightning | kkerwin: np... feel free to ask questions in #opensync if you get it installed |
03:02.38 | killown | ct|kyle, maybe I have erase .kde |
03:02.44 | killown | and remake other conf |
03:02.58 | ct|kyle | killown: i would not do that |
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03:03.21 | killown | ct|kyle I will do backup |
03:03.32 | killown | ct|kyle, ty |
03:03.34 | killown | brb |
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03:03.44 | ct|kyle | killown: ok but i'm thinking those are x settings |
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03:04.10 | killown | ct|kyle hm |
03:04.11 | ct|kyle | not sure |
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03:04.27 | killown | be right back |
03:04.30 | killown | thank you |
03:04.30 | ct|kyle | ok |
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03:09.55 | danny | in kde3.5.7, is there a config file or something in the /home/users directory that can screw up KNetworkManager with wireless? If I log in as user1, then I get no lan/net. If I log in as user2, I get full lan/net. |
03:11.06 | ct|kyle | danny: look in ~/.kde/ |
03:11.58 | danny | ct|kyle: can you be specific? there is alot of stuff in .kde/ |
03:12.44 | ct|kyle | danny: i don't know where in there |
03:13.48 | ct|kyle | danny: maybe ~/.kde/share/apps |
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03:14.43 | ct|kyle | danny: or /share/config |
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03:15.06 | pime | hi? |
03:15.24 | ct|kyle | pime: oi |
03:15.28 | pime | oh, this is the KDE IRC chat, neato :) |
03:15.54 | ct|kyle | pime: yes |
03:16.11 | pime | Cool! what KDE Version are you guys running? |
03:16.44 | ct|kyle | pime: i'm on 3.5 working on getting the latest revision |
03:16.47 | pime | i run KDE 3.4 |
03:16.57 | pime | i have SUSE Linux 10 =) |
03:17.50 | _pime | LOLZORZ? |
03:17.55 | ct|kyle | i have gentoo. i don't like novel(for window's computer reasons) so i stay away from thier stuff. |
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03:18.11 | _pime | oh, well i like their commericals m lolzorz. |
03:18.16 | _pime | who plays counter-strike?! |
03:18.18 | ct|kyle | ya |
03:18.18 | qupada | i had kde4 (from svn) installed until this morning, having both 3.5 and 4 installed isn't the brightest idea though. unless you're overly careful sometimes it gets a little bit confused about which version it thinks you're trying to use |
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03:18.43 | ct|kyle | ah |
03:19.22 | ct|kyle | i really want my desktops to take files from differnt Desktop folders |
03:19.56 | pime | i want to run Xen on my SUSE Linux 10, but i'm always afraid that my Memory will drain from 14 GIGS to like, 5 GIGs. |
03:20.07 | ct|kyle | EX: desktop 1 from ~/Desktop desktop 2 from ~/Desktop1 and so on |
03:20.24 | pime | oh |
03:20.26 | pime | neato. |
03:20.45 | ct|kyle | looking at the code but i have not found too much on how to |
03:21.14 | ct|kyle | i need to talk to a developer |
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03:22.09 | pime | ok |
03:22.38 | pime | there is some people who say linux doesnt pwn and sucks, but they dont know what they are missing, linux is the life =) |
03:23.45 | ct|kyle | ya i have to use windows for school but, i'll put KDE on that now that i know i can |
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03:24.55 | qupada | heh, my work desktop runs gentoo and kde. it rocks. sync and world updates happen at 3am via cron and i never even have to think about it. plus linux+kde desktop machine = actually get some work done rather than just getting pissed off with it |
03:25.28 | pime | who has ETTERCAP! |
03:25.33 | pime | <b> i do!</b> |
03:25.40 | pime | crap, html coes doesnt work =/ |
03:25.42 | ct|kyle | yo but what do you do to compile Visual basic? |
03:25.52 | pime | Wine? |
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03:26.40 | ct|kyle | Wine does not work for most microsoft product. but that will be my first try |
03:26.55 | ct|kyle | else i'll just get my free Vista |
03:27.03 | qupada | ct|kyle: vmware server running on one of the racked machines in the server room. |
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03:27.08 | ct|kyle | or Xp if i can still get it free |
03:27.10 | qupada | ct|kyle: where there's a will there's a way |
03:27.32 | pime | DAMN, I NEED A VIRTUAL DESKTOP |
03:27.56 | pime | Vmwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
03:27.56 | pime | wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
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03:28.04 | pime | oh crap, TF! |
03:28.08 | pime | WTF! |
03:28.13 | bluelightning | wwwwwtf... |
03:28.14 | pime | my keyboard lagged, |
03:28.15 | bluelightning | ;) |
03:28.18 | ct|kyle | i really want to have a desktop where all the files relate to one thing |
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03:28.35 | pime | lmao |
03:28.46 | pime | create the "relate: thing then ;) |
03:29.32 | pime | dudes, who wants to paly counter-strike on my serveR/ |
03:29.33 | pime | ? |
03:29.54 | pime | i have a CS-Cz server and a CS:S server =) |
03:30.53 | pime | who knows Chris Pirillo? |
03:30.55 | bluelightning | I haven't played CS in years... I used to enjoy it back in the beta 5 days |
03:30.55 | pime | I DO |
03:30.57 | pime | OMFG |
03:30.58 | pime | BIG DEAL |
03:31.01 | pime | I HAVE KDE |
03:31.09 | pime | LOLZORZ |
03:31.38 | ct|kyle | i only play 1 game |
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03:31.43 | pime | WHAT? |
03:31.47 | ct|kyle | armageton Advanced |
03:31.58 | ct|kyle | oldschool game with some new stuff |
03:32.02 | pime | omfg, doesn ANY of you play counter-strike on freakin' linux?! |
03:32.56 | bluelightning | pime: not recently no |
03:33.21 | pime | OH WELL, |
03:34.56 | pime | does anyone paly HALO? |
03:35.07 | pime | bcuz recnetly, they were doing some viral marketing, OMFGZORZ |
03:35.19 | ct|kyle | i don't suport microsoft in any way |
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03:36.49 | pime | well, any windows programs i have runwith wine =0 |
03:36.59 | pime | i totally PWNT microNOOB |
03:39.39 | pime | i have freakin WoW on my SUSE Linux 10 that has an nVidia GeForce 5 |
03:39.59 | ct|kyle | i have a 8500 GT |
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03:41.49 | pime | well, i kinda suck on nVidia Geforce 5 is actually gret for WoW =) |
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03:47.27 | pime | proFOX |
03:47.30 | pime | lolzorz |
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04:04.20 | `ziggurat | for the multiple desktops, how do you make it so that each app remains to it's own desktop and not all clutter the kicker? |
04:04.44 | `ziggurat | i could'nt find it in Control Centre |
04:05.49 | qupada | it's the very first checkbox in desktop>taskbar |
04:06.30 | `ziggurat | oooooh, it's in taskbar |
04:06.32 | `ziggurat | thanks |
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04:24.42 | ssokolow | Out of curiosity, how many multi-monitor KDE users find themselves doing a voluntary ratpoison-like setup? (ratpoising is a window manager that is like a graphical version of GNU screen. Everything maximized.) |
04:25.29 | ssokolow | In my case, I put a Konqueror on my left monitor, a Kate on my right, and let the tabbing and Konqueror's excellent KPart support do the rest. |
04:25.52 | ssokolow | (Left monitor: View/Browse, Right Monitor: Note/Create/Edit) |
04:26.20 | ssokolow | s/ratpoising/ratpoison/ |
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04:42.22 | killown | its possible set video as wallpaper on kdesk? |
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04:47.57 | DaSkreech | Kinda |
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05:00.23 | ssokolow | killown: The way I do it is to set black as my desktop color, set "Allow applications to draw on the root window" in KControl, and then run this (my screen is 1280x1024) --> mplayer -rootwin -vf scale=1280 filename.avi |
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05:00.58 | killown | ssokolow thanks |
05:01.04 | ssokolow | If your video file fits the desktop perfectly, you don't need the `-vf scale=1280` part and... |
05:01.23 | ssokolow | ...if your video is the same aspect ratio as your monitor, you don't need to adjust your background because it'll all get covered. |
05:01.54 | ssokolow | In some cases, you may also want `-ao null` to kill the audio. |
05:01.54 | killown | thanks a lot |
05:02.04 | ssokolow | no problem. Took me ages to figure it out myself. |
05:03.30 | ssokolow | You also may want `-loop 0` to make the video file repeat until you stop it. |
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05:03.57 | ssokolow | ...which is what WinVista does when you set a video file as desktop. (A friend of mine has it) |
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05:04.33 | DaSkreech | ssokolow: nice disclaimer |
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05:05.12 | ssokolow | DaSkreech: Also true. He brought his machine over for a gaming session with my brother and I asked if I could fiddle around with it. |
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05:09.41 | DaSkreech | ssokolow: doesn't have the advantage of being able to run google earth as the wallpaper does it? |
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05:12.55 | ssokolow | DaSkreech: WinVista? |
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05:13.02 | DaSkreech | Si |
05:13.12 | DaSkreech | I can do that with xearth |
05:13.33 | stepa | i'm using kubuntu gutsy, and i would like to change the default mixer application (controlled from keyboard volume buttons) from kmix to something else. even if i kill kmix and logout/in again the volume keys still start kmix.. how do i disable it? |
05:13.35 | ssokolow | Yeah. I've always loved the relative elegance of X11 when compared to Windows' GUI. |
05:15.37 | ssokolow | Of course, considering how many flaws X has, that's not saying much for Windows... though I've heard that XCB fixes a non-trivial number of those flaws by forcing strict X protocol compliance. (which would also explain why aMule (used to) and Java apps (possibly still do) error out with an XCB assert when using XCB-backed Xlib) |
05:16.04 | ssokolow | stepa: I'm not sure how Kubuntu does it's media key bindings so I can't help. Sorry. |
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05:34.24 | DaSkreech | stepa: #kubuntu not giving you feedback? |
05:34.45 | DaSkreech | Btw does amarok do filesystem based organization of music? |
05:34.51 | stepa | haven't tried, i'll go ask there |
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05:43.15 | workman161 | DaSkreech: yes |
05:43.27 | DaSkreech | workman161: Live? |
05:43.35 | workman161 | no |
05:43.55 | workman161 | You can always edit the tags in Amarok and then use the organizer feature |
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05:44.37 | workman161 | live filesystem-based organization would defeat the purpose of id3 tags and vice-versa |
05:45.54 | ilj | hi guys. i'm running KDE 3.5.7. on a battery powered machine. Strangely enough I can't get battery indicator appear in kicker. If I click on a corresponding button (in Control Center) that adds that indicator to kicker nothing happens at all. No error messages and no indicator in kicker either. What could be wrong? |
05:46.02 | lilltiger | To bad there isent and standart on how the tags should be filled |
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06:08.45 | DaSkreech | workman161: Sorry why would live organization defeat the purpose? |
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06:14.48 | tea | Hello |
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06:32.14 | DaSkreech | night |
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06:55.32 | n3kl__ | Hi. Does anyoe have an amarok replacement that supports mpd? |
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06:56.34 | qupada | n3kl__: the closest you'll ever get to amarok's form and/or function is qmpdclient |
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06:59.40 | n3kl__ | qupada: I really like mpd, but most of the clients are not that great. |
06:59.55 | n3kl__ | and amarok rules too. Can't have both I guess |
06:59.56 | Wyatt | Agreed |
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07:01.33 | Wyatt | Been having this continual problem and was wondering if anyone's seen anything like it before... http://tinyurl.com/2vqznz |
07:02.05 | Wyatt | Also missing are loading throbbers and menu mini-icons, oddly enough. |
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07:43.58 | BadRobot | hi there |
07:44.28 | BadRobot | how to i edit KMENU or just deleted unwanted applications from the menu selection? |
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07:46.46 | letto | BadRobot: with the k menu editor |
07:47.02 | BadRobot | where is it? |
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07:47.45 | letto | desktop -> panel -> menu -> edit k menu |
07:47.46 | BadRobot | with Gnome you just need to do a right click then deselect the applications that you don't need from the menu |
07:47.53 | BadRobot | thx |
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08:08.40 | AmyRose | Now I will tell everybody to install them :D |
08:08.58 | AmyRose | It was so nice knowing I didn't have to recompile just to submit backtraces |
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08:27.44 | bram85 | AmyRose: spread the word :) |
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08:29.08 | AmyRose | bram85: Are you the one who replied to me on this bug report? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148917 |
08:29.13 | bram85 | AmyRose: yes |
08:29.17 | AmyRose | :D |
08:29.35 | AmyRose | I submitted another backtrace because I got different one when I triggered it again |
08:30.05 | AmyRose | and I don't know about programming ^^; |
08:30.57 | AmyRose | but at least I know what's being submitted unlike on Windows when you click "Send Error Report" (I have suspicions that "Don't Send" still sends them stuff) |
08:31.18 | bram85 | :) |
08:31.48 | bram85 | AmyRose: when I looked for duplicates i saw some other backtraces due to deviantart.com , but they looked different to me |
08:31.54 | AmyRose | Ah |
08:32.12 | AmyRose | bram85: Thanks for the link though. It was a HUGE relief to see that I don't have to recompile KDE just to get backtraces :) |
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08:33.29 | EcoBlue | how would I make 2 commands run when I log in? |
08:33.57 | Wyatt | EcoBlue: add them to ~/.bashrc |
08:34.50 | EcoBlue | let's test this, lol |
08:35.31 | Wyatt | Wait...maybe I should have asked what eh was going for, first... |
08:35.41 | Wyatt | Uh oh... |
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08:39.05 | AmyRose | Oh noes! |
08:39.06 | AmyRose | :O |
08:39.29 | Wyatt | Oh quiet, you! I'm tired. |
08:39.35 | AmyRose | =P |
08:39.41 | AmyRose | so am I |
08:42.33 | Wyatt | If I fade away before that bloke comes back complaining that what he wanted to happen didn't, be a dear and tell him he's probably looking for ~/.kde/Autostart/ please? |
08:43.11 | AmyRose | OK |
08:43.19 | Wyatt | Thank you kindly. |
08:43.23 | AmyRose | You're welcome |
08:43.28 | AmyRose | kindly |
08:43.30 | AmyRose | :3 |
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08:45.54 | Mrrrr | >:3 |
08:47.09 | AmyRose | Hehe |
08:47.12 | AmyRose | :3 |
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10:02.54 | oneforall | just wonder if there is a plan to et the kdm do animation/movie bg |
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10:05.34 | hayig2000 | hi all, if an unwindowed program hang, how to close it? |
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10:06.34 | oneforall | killall appname |
10:06.53 | oneforall | or find the pid# and kill -9 pid# |
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10:08.19 | hayig2000 | type that in a console? |
10:08.51 | oneforall | yeah |
10:09.00 | oneforall | ps ax you can find the pid# |
10:09.22 | oneforall | or there is ctrl+esc |
10:09.30 | oneforall | for the pretty gui ps :D |
10:10.00 | hayig2000 | what is pid#? |
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10:11.38 | oneforall | pid number |
10:12.08 | oneforall | left column |
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10:13.54 | oneforall | there is another way K>Utilities>X_Utilities>(X-Kill) then click on the app |
10:14.25 | oneforall | you'll see that deth skull:D |
10:16.09 | hayig2000 | ctrl+alt+esc |
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10:16.42 | oneforall | whats that one for ? the x-kill ? |
10:17.11 | hayig2000 | yes |
10:17.45 | oneforall | ah nice never new it . I usually just do ps ax and kill -9 pid# :D |
10:19.00 | hayig2000 | what does pid stands for? |
10:19.49 | oneforall | proccess id iirc |
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10:21.49 | Isil`Zha | hallo. is there a way to avoid line breaks inside the word for symbol descriptions or just the ones on the desktop? i would like to have the break only for spaces |
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10:26.35 | hayig2000 | thanks oneforall for the help |
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10:56.29 | Saviq | guys do you know an irc channel that I can get help for k3b in? |
10:56.38 | Saviq | #k3b is... well... empty |
10:56.51 | pinotree | you can ask here |
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11:01.38 | Saviq | great... there is a way to run k3b in the background - I'd like to make my own simple interface for specific things - it can be done by dcop, that's great |
11:01.53 | Saviq | but I can't find two things |
11:02.09 | Saviq | renaming the things in data projects through dcop |
11:02.27 | Saviq | and checking if the project will fit onto a medium |
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11:03.26 | [tUd]Pensacola | my icons on kicker turn darker when I hover over them |
11:03.30 | [tUd]Pensacola | where can I change it? |
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11:03.49 | oneforall | http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/35973-1.png like that one |
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11:04.06 | oneforall | that would look kewl too with som motion :D |
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11:06.48 | x_link | Hi |
11:06.57 | x_link | Is there any bug or something in KDE? |
11:07.09 | Saviq | erm |
11:07.17 | Saviq | there's probably a lot of bugs or somethings ;) |
11:07.21 | GaryS | you'll have to be a little more specific than that |
11:07.27 | x_link | Cause VLC doesn't have that that volumecontrol anymore. |
11:07.34 | x_link | I was on my way to tell you this =) |
11:07.35 | Shirakawasuna | VLC != KDE |
11:07.36 | GaryS | that's not KDE |
11:07.42 | Saviq | looks like the problem's vlc |
11:07.44 | Saviq | not in kde |
11:07.49 | Shirakawasuna | it uses wxwindows, come on now ;) |
11:07.56 | x_link | Hrmm it works perfectly in GNOME. |
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11:07.59 | Shirakawasuna | it doesn't even look like KDE |
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11:08.24 | GaryS | the #konversation room let my question sit for a half hour, so I'll see if anyone knows here |
11:08.26 | GaryS | Gentoo, amd64, konversation version 1.0.1. The spell checking feature doesn't seem to work. I right-click and select spell check for misspelled terms, but it doesn't work. Auto spell check doesn't seem to do anything either. |
11:08.27 | Shirakawasuna | and my volume control works great, btw |
11:08.35 | Shirakawasuna | (vlc + kde) |
11:08.43 | x_link | Shirakawasuna: Okeh. Which distro? |
11:08.47 | Shirakawasuna | archlinux |
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11:09.19 | x_link | Shirakawasuna: It worked fine a couple of days ago. But now it has been like this for 3 days. |
11:09.33 | Shirakawasuna | GaryS: same here, good times |
11:09.42 | GaryS | oh okay |
11:09.58 | Shirakawasuna | spell check works great in koffice, I blame konversation |
11:10.14 | Shirakawasuna | x_link: trace back to what you did three days ago... |
11:10.32 | Sho_ | GaryS: Please check your spell-checking settings in KControl, specifically that the selected spell checker and dictionary are actually installed |
11:10.44 | GaryS | what package would they be called |
11:10.54 | x_link | Shirakawasuna: Nothing special, proberly just updated or something. |
11:11.00 | GaryS | the dictionary and checker |
11:11.03 | Sho_ | GaryS: That depends on what spell checker and dictionary you have selected in KControl and what distribution you're using |
11:11.12 | GaryS | gentoo, and I'm on fluxbox |
11:11.20 | x_link | http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlc1fx3.jpg |
11:11.24 | x_link | It looks like that for me. |
11:11.34 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Konversation does not implement spell-checking by itself, it uses a standard KDE text entry control with its built-in spell-checking |
11:12.00 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: I.e. it would be very hard for Konversation to be to blame |
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11:12.10 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: I still blame it. grr |
11:12.26 | Shirakawasuna | think kopete has the same implementation? |
11:12.28 | GaryS | it'd be nice if it was like gaim, with it builtin I guess |
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11:12.53 | Sho_ | GaryS: Why would Konversation implement its own spell-checking when it is a KDE-wide feature? |
11:12.54 | x_link | GaryS: Did you see the link I just posted? |
11:13.04 | Shirakawasuna | looks like kopete's doesn't work either, perhaps I'm missing some base package |
11:13.08 | Shirakawasuna | or something |
11:13.11 | GaryS | because a fluxbox user can't get it without installing the entire desktop :V |
11:13.12 | Shirakawasuna | GaryS: are you using split ebuilds? |
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11:13.34 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: And on what technical basis do you still blame Konversation when you're not sitting at GaryS' system and cannot determine whether his spell-checking settings in KControl is valid and he has the right package installed? |
11:13.49 | GaryS | nah, standard ebuilds |
11:14.24 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: technical basis? Oh no, this is irrational anger. |
11:14.30 | Sho_ | ah, ok ;) |
11:14.33 | GaryS | emerge -pv kcontrol... 12 packages to get it >:| |
11:15.08 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: any idea which package (whatever KDE call 'em) contains that 'text entry control'? |
11:15.15 | x_link | Sho_: Hi, can you help me a bit? |
11:15.23 | Shirakawasuna | by package I mean like kdepim, kdenetwork, etc. |
11:15.29 | x_link | Sho_: http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlc1fx3.jpg |
11:15.34 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: kdelibs |
11:15.42 | GaryS | I'll try emerging that |
11:15.51 | x_link | Sho_: My VLC volumeconroll looks like that. It looks like that for another guy that I know that uses KDE |
11:16.06 | GaryS | found it |
11:16.09 | GaryS | the USE flag spell |
11:16.12 | oneforall | hey can kde do randome kdm themes like it does back frounds ? |
11:16.19 | Sho_ | GaryS: Make sure you have emerged kdelibs with the "spell" USE flag, emerge aspell and the dictionary for your language, and then open KControl, go into KDE Components -> Spell Checker, select aspell als "Client" and the right dictionary |
11:16.26 | GaryS | yeah, just got it |
11:16.34 | Sho_ | Same for Shirakawasuna |
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11:16.57 | Shirakawasuna | yes, I do indeed have kdelibs ;) |
11:17.15 | Shirakawasuna | and perhaps the kdelibs I use isn't compiled w/ spell support |
11:17.31 | Sho_ | x_link: Sorry, don't know anything about VLC ... only hunch is that it uses wxWidgets as GUI toolkit which uses GTK as backend on Linux and maybe you're using gtk-qt-engine and its GUI doesn't work with that |
11:17.32 | GaryS | that might be it, I'll try that now. I already have aspell and all that |
11:18.11 | Shirakawasuna | x_link: it may please you to know that VLC 0.9 will have a qt interface (will work better with KDE). |
11:18.23 | Sho_ | yup, indeed |
11:19.36 | runlevelten | Shirakawasuna: there was no need to specify "with KDE" in that sentence, heh. |
11:20.18 | Sho_ | They'd certainly have a hard time making it any worse than it is now |
11:20.21 | x_link | Hmm okej? |
11:20.25 | x_link | So what do I need to do then? |
11:20.36 | Sho_ | Try without gtk-qt-engine if you're using that |
11:20.41 | x_link | VLC media player 0.8.6c Janus |
11:20.41 | x_link | VLC version 0.8.6c Janus |
11:20.44 | x_link | I use that one. |
11:20.45 | Sho_ | Or use a decent KDE video player. |
11:20.54 | x_link | Sho_: In kControl? |
11:20.55 | Shirakawasuna | x_link: figure out what you did three days ago |
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11:21.31 | Sho_ | If gtk-qt-engine is installed there will be a "GTK Styles and Fonts" section in KControl -> Appearance where you can chose the GTK theme, yes |
11:22.59 | runlevelten | I still haven't worked out exactly what vlc provides that I can't do without it. |
11:23.02 | runlevelten | Oh, well. |
11:23.25 | x_link | kControl --> Appearance & Themes --> GTK Styles and Fons --> GTK Styles --> Use my KDE style in GTK applications (that's default) OR use another style: |
11:23.45 | Shirakawasuna | vlc has louder audio output than kmplayer, haven't figured out why yet. |
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11:24.00 | Shirakawasuna | it gets annoying with some DVDs on a laptop.. |
11:24.11 | Sho_ | runlevelten: Supposedly it has some value as a streaming server |
11:24.26 | runlevelten | Oh, right. |
11:25.26 | x_link | Sho_: Should I choose Use anoher style ? |
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11:25.38 | x_link | or Use my KDE style in GTK applications? |
11:25.47 | Sho_ | x_link: Another style |
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11:25.53 | x_link | Sho_: Okej. |
11:25.53 | Sho_ | runlevelten: I prefer KPlayer, myself |
11:25.57 | x_link | I will pick clearlooks. |
11:26.07 | kucrut | hey Sho_ |
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11:26.21 | x_link | Sho_: Now I see the volumecontroll. |
11:26.37 | x_link | But it's right under one of the menus, so I jus see a bi of it. |
11:26.59 | Sho_ | x_link: That's all I could think of ... next stop for you is #vlc (VLC is not a KDE application) :) |
11:27.04 | Sho_ | hi kucrut |
11:27.20 | x_link | Okej. |
11:27.23 | x_link | Sho_: Thanks |
11:27.25 | kucrut | i was tryin to revert my konvi's color settings.... and i clicked the 'defaults' button. i thought it's not for the whole setting ;(. is it possible to add a 'defaults' button for every single settings like in kcontrol? |
11:27.38 | kucrut | Sho_,^^ |
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11:28.16 | Sho_ | kucrut: Unfortunately resetting the entire dialog is the KDE standard ... we've already talked to KDE Usability about it, and it's hopefully going to be fixed for KDE 4 |
11:28.36 | kucrut | Sho_, great, thanks for the info |
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11:30.01 | x_link | Sho_: http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlc1hu8.jpg |
11:30.05 | x_link | Now it looks like hat. |
11:30.06 | x_link | that. |
11:30.43 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, looks like kdelibs is compiled with --without-hspell, whatever that means. |
11:30.50 | Shirakawasuna | although it has aspell patches from SUSE... |
11:30.55 | x_link | Sho_: There is no #vlc channel. |
11:30.59 | Sho_ | x_link: gtk-qt-engine was a KDE project I was somewhat prepared to support, VLC isn't, sorry |
11:31.26 | x_link | Sho_: Sorry, I will not ask anymore =) |
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11:32.24 | runlevelten | x_link: Have you considered asking in your distro's channel? |
11:32.32 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, hspell seems to be some hebrew thing |
11:32.50 | runlevelten | x_link: there's a #videolan channel. |
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11:33.07 | x_link | runlevelten: I'm asking in #Kubuntu right now |
11:33.56 | Sho_ | x_link: The VLC support page says "irc.videolan.org, #videolan" (http://www.videolan.org/support/) |
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11:35.25 | x_link | Ha |
11:35.28 | x_link | Now I totaly fixed it |
11:35.37 | runlevelten | yay \o/ |
11:35.38 | x_link | Clearlooks didn't show it all, but anoher style does 0) |
11:35.44 | Shirakawasuna | gah, all the packages are getting their own entire servers >_< |
11:35.58 | Shirakawasuna | /projects |
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11:36.57 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: yeah, stupid that |
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12:02.05 | wmind | and kmail can't do anything with it :/ |
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12:11.36 | illogic-al | mornin' #kde |
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12:11.47 | EvilDin | hi, i have problem, with displaying my resolution on whole screen, i have black fields that are not used, what can i do, that i will have full screen? |
12:14.33 | Saviq | so what about k3b and dcoping the project's overall size? or renaming the files through dcop? |
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12:17.40 | runlevelten | EvilDin: adjust your monitor. |
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12:58.24 | noteventime | In the beta of kde4, does one have to manually change the theme, or is there a theme changer yet? |
12:59.06 | pinotree | the usual as in kde3 |
12:59.30 | benJIman | kde3 has a theme changer noteventime |
12:59.38 | noteventime | kcontrol doesn't seem to work |
12:59.46 | Skrot- | noteventime: "kcmshell style" |
12:59.56 | noteventime | Skrot-, That's what I was looking for |
13:00.00 | noteventime | Thanks |
13:00.04 | Skrot- | no problem |
13:00.08 | benJIman | Skrot-: style isn't the theme changer. |
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13:00.22 | noteventime | benJIman, Style changer is enough |
13:00.31 | Skrot- | kcmshell kthememanager then |
13:00.57 | Skrot- | noteventime: I think KDE 4 has "systemsettings" though |
13:01.34 | noteventime | Skrot-, Ahh |
13:01.43 | noteventime | I hadn't heard about that one yet :-) |
13:01.46 | noteventime | Fancy |
13:02.59 | oneforall | hmm even thou 64bit jdk/jre don't make the plugin. Does konq have its own and works at the test page ? |
13:03.22 | stoned | hi |
13:03.29 | stoned | oneforall: here is the deal |
13:03.32 | stoned | NO. |
13:04.04 | stoned | oneforall: but... you can run firefox in 32bit mode and install 32bit java/flash on it |
13:04.07 | pinotree | oneforall: you want java working in konqueror/64bits? |
13:04.08 | fred | oneforall: Konqueror works on the test page. |
13:04.10 | pinotree | stoned: nope |
13:04.27 | fred | oneforall: It doesn't need a plugin. |
13:04.32 | stoned | pinotree: what do you mean, thats what I've been doing all this time |
13:04.40 | pinotree | unuseful |
13:04.46 | stoned | how? |
13:04.46 | oneforall | yeha I know I can compile seamonkey 32bit but I don't wan't to :D |
13:04.53 | pinotree | just make sure you have a 'java' executable in the $PATH |
13:04.54 | stoned | you don't have to compile it |
13:04.55 | fred | stoned: It works in 64-bit konqueror, as konqueror doesn't use a plugin for java |
13:05.05 | noteventime | How far is the xine backend for phonon? |
13:05.07 | stoned | ok |
13:05.09 | stoned | what about flash? |
13:05.19 | pinotree | nspluginwrapper ;) |
13:05.23 | stoned | nah |
13:05.25 | stoned | screw that |
13:05.26 | fred | oneforall: settings -> configure konqueror -> java and java script -> "Path to java executable or 'java'" |
13:05.27 | oneforall | nspluginwrapper for the flash |
13:05.28 | benJIman | stoned: Install the 32bit version of nspluginwrapper for flash. |
13:05.30 | fred | stoned: works fine :) |
13:05.30 | stoned | it constantly crashes konqi |
13:05.36 | fred | stoned: nope. |
13:05.38 | benJIman | stoned: No problems here. |
13:05.40 | stoned | dude |
13:05.46 | fred | It used to constantly crash nspluginwrapper |
13:05.48 | pinotree | stoned: not here |
13:05.49 | stoned | I am using firefox 32bit BECAUSE all else failed |
13:05.53 | stoned | my goal is to use nothing but kde apps |
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13:06.01 | pinotree | stoned: i'm not even have a chroot :) |
13:06.01 | benJIman | stoned: Works fine for me, I've been using it for years. |
13:06.01 | stoned | but unfortunately, I can't, because konqi sucks, no offense |
13:06.02 | stoned | :) |
13:06.11 | stoned | of all sorts |
13:06.17 | pinotree | or a life, as well ;) |
13:06.20 | stoned | yes yes |
13:06.23 | stoned | life too :) |
13:06.37 | oneforall | fred yeha it has the right path . sucks to that even from konsole I see no eror . and since its got that loading screen .with that pretty dot Doing circles/.. I'd say its working a bit :D |
13:07.13 | oneforall | but it goes and looks like its never going to stop |
13:07.32 | stoned | firefox on my 3.5ghz core 2 amd64 takes 1.3 seconds to start after you click it |
13:07.39 | fred | erm... I think that loading screen indicates it's working |
13:07.41 | stoned | i think that is pretty fast, don't you? |
13:07.50 | fred | 'core 2 amd64' in particular :p |
13:07.53 | fred | sorry :p |
13:07.56 | benJIman | stoned: 1.3s fast? |
13:08.00 | stoned | whats so funny|? |
13:08.07 | stoned | you didn' tknow core 2 cpus support em64t? |
13:08.07 | oneforall | well its a min. and its still not loaded on my 805 D |
13:08.08 | benJIman | konqueror starts in about 1s cold, pretty much instantaneously cached. |
13:08.09 | pinotree | stoned: konqueror opens instantly - even faster, isn't it? |
13:08.18 | harmental80 | hey guys...is there an official irc open office channel? |
13:08.19 | stoned | pinotree: but it doesn't have extentions |
13:08.22 | stoned | I mean c'mon man |
13:08.26 | pinotree | stoned: it does |
13:08.29 | benJIman | stoned: it does have extensions, perhaps not the ones you want. |
13:08.30 | stoned | I just hope kde4 browser is better |
13:08.37 | stoned | benJIman: well, yes, you're right |
13:08.43 | stoned | trust me man |
13:08.47 | fred | stoned: Of course I know that. I'm running on core 2 duo right now. I'm amused by 'amd64' when talking about an intel processor. |
13:08.47 | pinotree | nope |
13:08.50 | stoned | I've looked at all way to ditch firefo |
13:08.54 | stoned | but it can't |
13:08.58 | pinotree | i can, and? |
13:08.59 | fred | well, calling an intel processor a 'core 2 amd64' |
13:08.59 | Mrrrr | Opera 9 takes about 0.9s to open and start loading a 10 page session from cold start on my old p4 2.6 with lotsa crap running |
13:09.08 | Mrrrr | ff takes about 4 secs with no session |
13:09.11 | stoned | fred: ok, amd64 port of linux on core 2 |
13:09.12 | stoned | that better |
13:09.16 | stoned | can you stop laugyhing now |
13:09.23 | stoned | or else I will kill you :) |
13:09.26 | stoned | slowly.... |
13:09.31 | fred | yes, sorry :p |
13:10.02 | stoned | ahhhh |
13:10.12 | stoned | konqueror took 4 cursor bounces to start after i clicked the icon |
13:10.16 | stoned | firefox took only 1 |
13:10.19 | stoned | haha! |
13:10.20 | fred | both start as fast here. |
13:10.20 | stoned | booya! |
13:10.21 | oneforall | intel core 2 |
13:10.35 | fred | stoned: close konqueror, and do it again |
13:10.39 | pinotree | well, konqueror betas ff 4 - 1, you suck ;) |
13:10.45 | fred | stoned: I'm guessing firefox is in your disk cache. |
13:10.56 | stoned | fred: more than likely |
13:11.01 | Mrrrr | KDE by default keeps 1 session of Konq cached? |
13:11.01 | fred | firefox takes a hell of a long time to start the first time after boot |
13:11.05 | stoned | ok |
13:11.13 | stoned | now konqueror took 3 cursor bounces |
13:11.17 | stoned | firefox still takes 1 |
13:11.20 | oneforall | fred kfmclient openProfile filemanagement I did that from konsole anything else to turn on more info for errors ? |
13:11.32 | fred | oneforall: huh? |
13:11.32 | stoned | and i have like 20+ extentions loaded |
13:11.42 | stoned | still it is faster |
13:11.58 | stoned | i hope the kde4 web browser is better |
13:12.02 | Mrrrr | 1 bounce for me... and like 10 for a cold boot of FF with 2 extentions |
13:12.06 | pinotree | and i have 11 in konqueror, so?? |
13:12.26 | stoned | pinotree: listen tom e |
13:12.31 | pinotree | nope |
13:12.37 | stoned | I love kde, and would ditch firefox in a heartbeat |
13:12.40 | pinotree | firefox _is_ way too heavy, there's nothing to discuss about that |
13:12.46 | stoned | but... konqeurror does NOT have the functionality I require |
13:12.53 | stoned | I have looked into it for over a year |
13:12.54 | stoned | no dice |
13:12.59 | stoned | I am stuck with ths ff garbage |
13:13.00 | stoned | ok? |
13:13.01 | pinotree | then stop complaining like a crying boy |
13:13.01 | Mrrrr | then dont use it |
13:13.08 | stoned | pinotree: im not complaining im discussing |
13:13.15 | Maxdamantus | Firefox isn't too heavy. |
13:13.16 | stoned | you're getting defensive cuz youre a kde dev |
13:13.25 | stoned | you're the one misunderstanding me |
13:13.27 | stoned | ;/ |
13:13.29 | pinotree | NOBODY forces you to use, use what you like, and stop complaining and repating "konqueror sucks" |
13:13.31 | oneforall | ah will try strace |
13:13.46 | stoned | pinotree: I said it only twice afaik, and jesting |
13:13.47 | Mrrrr | Konq is a damn nice browser if you dont require "fluff" |
13:13.53 | pinotree | stoned: yeah, of course everybody in misunderstanding you, yeah |
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13:14.08 | stoned | oh i see, its like this then. ok |
13:14.11 | stoned | have at it... |
13:14.20 | pinotree | stoned: you're not discussing - i see only "ff is better, open faster on my super-duper pc, konqueror is slow and sucks" |
13:14.33 | stoned | how did I become responsible for your perception? |
13:14.35 | stoned | I'm not. |
13:14.47 | pinotree | c'mon, cut that attitude please |
13:14.54 | oneforall | na that was usleless . I see itloads try 2 |
13:14.59 | pinotree | i repeat once again: you don't like? do NOT use it |
13:15.09 | stoned | pinotree: thats not the point. I am NOT using it am I |
13:15.11 | pinotree | but this kind of complaining IS UNUSEFUL |
13:15.21 | stoned | I just wanted to relate what I experienced here |
13:15.29 | stoned | you dont' want to talk about it, you don't have to |
13:15.52 | pinotree | you're not relating, you are almost ranting about your "konqueror suckyness" |
13:16.09 | stoned | pinotree: you seem like a single track mind |
13:16.12 | stoned | get off it already bro |
13:16.21 | stoned | that was like 5 minutes ago |
13:16.28 | pinotree | stoned: your attitude is not better than mine, it seems |
13:16.35 | Mrrrr | breathe :P |
13:16.40 | stoned | pinotree: we are both clashign and getting defensive it seems |
13:16.45 | stoned | let me rephrase my statement |
13:16.47 | pinotree | stoned: well, you started that |
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13:16.57 | stoned | konqueor doesn't suck in general, but it does for me since I am unable to ditch firefox |
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13:16.59 | pinotree | so, close that just like you started |
13:17.00 | stoned | that better? |
13:17.03 | stoned | how old are you man |
13:17.10 | stoned | you started this, no you started that |
13:17.11 | stoned | hahaha |
13:17.22 | pinotree | cut that, dude |
13:17.31 | stoned | im trying pinotree |
13:17.38 | pinotree | lol, i see |
13:17.40 | stoned | but anyway, enough bickering |
13:17.41 | stoned | :) |
13:17.47 | stoned | pinotree: you are the man |
13:17.55 | pinotree | 2nd: cut that |
13:18.07 | stoned | hopefully with kde4 I wil find a way to ditch firefox |
13:18.39 | Mrrrr | start dev then? :P |
13:18.43 | pinotree | hopefully kde4 will have a bit more intelligient users |
13:18.51 | stoned | pinotree: ok, that was uncalled for |
13:18.57 | Mrrrr | lol |
13:19.02 | stoned | now you're being a dick. |
13:19.02 | fred | pinotree: :D |
13:19.04 | stoned | you cut it |
13:19.17 | pinotree | ahah - STOP |
13:19.40 | Mrrrr | cutting... dicks... Im sure I can find some of my special vids if you want? :/ |
13:19.42 | oneforall | fred I just realized something . Do you mean konq setup for web broswer? I allways use the file manger of it to browse:D |
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13:20.34 | fred | oneforall: huh? |
13:20.36 | pinotree | stoned: (and, if i'm a dick, guess who's the first of the day? :) ) |
13:20.40 | stoned | no I'm saying konqueror plugins are not much and not diverse. There are a few, but that is about it. I can't for the life of me work the mouse gestures. At least if they worked, I could live with konqueror as a fulltime browser |
13:20.48 | stoned | pinotree: whatever man |
13:20.51 | stoned | youre right im wrong |
13:20.56 | stoned | you look good, im very ugly |
13:21.01 | stoned | you penis is huge mine is 1 inch |
13:21.02 | pinotree | no, you're just trolling |
13:21.03 | stoned | leave me alone. |
13:21.05 | stoned | please |
13:21.09 | pinotree | ok |
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13:21.24 | stoned | cut that out man |
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13:21.31 | oneforall | ah same thing . the dot goes in circles and never loads |
13:21.35 | pinotree | nope, until you reply |
13:21.53 | pinotree | (and i didn't bring that on the "penis&co part") |
13:22.01 | stoned | dude |
13:22.04 | stoned | just let it effing go |
13:22.05 | stoned | damn |
13:22.06 | pinotree | STOP THAT |
13:22.13 | stoned | just forget about it man |
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13:22.24 | pinotree | STOP THAT |
13:22.27 | stoned | stop what> |
13:22.31 | stoned | im trying to not argue with you |
13:22.31 | pinotree | YOU |
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13:23.14 | stoned | yeh basically, you are an op, so you're right and everyone else is wrong |
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13:23.19 | stoned | no matter what |
13:23.22 | stoned | so have it, im done. |
13:23.32 | Mirrakor | how can I reduce deskto effects of KDE? (on older laptops, i.e. ) I remember there was an setting, where I could do that |
13:23.32 | stoned | have the last word, im gonna try to get mouse gestures to work |
13:23.36 | pinotree | no, you're trolling, that's the truth |
13:23.42 | stoned | whatever |
13:23.52 | pinotree | of course |
13:23.55 | fred | Mirrakor: it's part of kpersonalizer |
13:24.01 | vash | upon startup of kde after reinstalling it.. I got the error of no write acess to /home/usr/.ICEauthority ; cannot start. |
13:24.25 | Mirrakor | pinotree: some things never go away :) |
13:25.21 | oneforall | fred well if you have it working then my jre must be borked |
13:25.41 | Mirrakor | fred: in kdebase3-extra? |
13:25.49 | pinotree | oneforall: make sure you can run java programs in console fine |
13:25.57 | stoned | I didn't just say konqi sucks btw, I said it in jesting, you took it as whatever. I wouldn't be trying to find a way to ditch firefox if I didn't like konqueror, you just got defensive about 'konqi sucks' and probably didn't read anything else I said or if you did, you probably did't consider it. I just want to clear that up |
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13:26.09 | oneforall | limewire is java and it runs |
13:26.17 | fred | Mirrakor: it's in kdebase. I have no idea how your distribution may have split that package. |
13:26.17 | stoned | sigh |
13:26.19 | Mirrakor | it's enough now stoned, we all got that |
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13:27.04 | pinotree | stoned: you were lucky the ban list was full - but, even a SINGLE WORD IN THE NEXT HOUR, and you're out |
13:27.19 | stoned | fuck you |
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13:27.22 | Mirrakor | cool it boys |
13:27.50 | Mirrakor | *sighs* Some people need conflicting situations.. *think* |
13:27.58 | Mrrrr | Hugs tiem nao? :/ |
13:28.02 | oneforall | ah wait thats the 32bit one thou |
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13:28.38 | vash | ;___; I've been trying to install kde for like 4 days now >>... |
13:28.54 | vash | Same error even when I reinstall.. and that's with gentoo's reinstall |
13:29.07 | vash | fred: Gentoo |
13:29.18 | fred | I'd suggest the gentoo channel then |
13:29.39 | vash | Yeah, they all say they're not "kde" people or whatever that's supposed to mean :/ |
13:29.50 | Mirrakor | whats the actual problem? |
13:29.59 | vash | upon startup of kde after reinstalling it.. I got the error of no write acess to /home/usr/.ICEauthority ; cannot start. |
13:30.20 | Mirrakor | well, then you should check permissions on .ICEauthority maybe? |
13:30.23 | braindump03_ | vash: tried chmod, chown? |
13:30.27 | oneforall | hmm whats java app is going to use the 64biit java O.o |
13:30.32 | simmerz | vash: there is #gentoo-kde as well |
13:30.35 | oneforall | what* |
13:30.40 | vash | simmerz: >> srsly? |
13:30.48 | simmerz | yes |
13:30.50 | vash | braindump03_: I'll try that thnx |
13:31.06 | braindump03_ | vash: :) |
13:32.32 | fred | oneforall: Anything, if you uninstall the 32-bit java :p |
13:33.00 | oneforall | ok will try it I did unistall the 32bit one |
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13:33.31 | vash | woot it worketh :D |
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13:34.07 | vash | sound server is still broken.. but i'll fix that in due time :P |
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13:36.56 | simmerz | vash: add your user to the audio group |
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13:37.32 | wahjava | hi channel |
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13:38.19 | wahjava | What's the use of "Mailing list Management" menu present in Kmail ? Is it used in filtering incoming mails, hmm... ? |
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13:39.21 | pinotree | wahjava: nope - for example, when you reply ('R'), the default recipient is the ml |
13:39.39 | oneforall | fred limewire doesn't want to work witht he 64bit |
13:39.45 | wahjava | pinotree: okay, thanks |
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13:40.20 | pinotree | wahjava: you also have the ml handling options (like unsubscribe, help options, etc) |
13:41.05 | fred | oneforall: I'd suggest we go back to a non-kde channel, as this isn't a KDE issue |
13:41.13 | wahjava | Is there any way to create filters for all mailing lists in 1 shot, hm... ? |
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13:50.13 | marat | hi |
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13:50.48 | jachin | hi |
13:50.51 | ct|kyle | oi |
13:51.00 | jachin | bi |
13:51.29 | lin00b | hi, i'm using ktorrent, and have reorganised my completed dl to different folder, not ktorrent complains it cant find them. can i point it to their new location? |
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13:54.46 | ct|kyle | Are there any developers here? |
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13:55.54 | kirun | ct|kyle: Usually... If you have a question for them, ask and be patient |
13:56.12 | ct|kyle | ok |
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13:57.20 | ct|kyle | Where in the code does it take and read the files in ~/Desktop so it can later paint them? |
13:57.48 | Mirrakor | there's for sure a packman clone in KDEgames, but where? :D |
13:58.00 | pinotree | Mirrakor: nope, there isn't |
13:58.07 | pinotree | want start one? ;) |
13:58.45 | Mirrakor | nah, but my sister is complaining that she can't play one strange flash-packman, cause it requieres keyboard input, which Opera seems to reject |
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13:59.45 | Mirrakor | I'm not good in coding myself :/ |
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14:00.13 | garryFre | I've been trying to get a flash based chat site to recieve sound from my mike, but after 9 hours of fighting it, googling, asking in IRC, I gave up. |
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14:01.04 | garryFre | I'm great at coding, its just that computers are so lousey at following instructions. :) |
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14:01.19 | ct|kyle | garryFre: don't you just have to stream the sound from your mic and read the stream into JAVA? |
14:01.20 | Mirrakor | hehe |
14:01.28 | stoned | Computers only do what you tell them to do |
14:01.47 | Mirrakor | yeah, but you'd have to tell them so much.. |
14:01.55 | stoned | well thats the thing :) |
14:02.00 | ct|kyle | on windows they do more than what you tell them to do |
14:02.20 | stoned | no, they still what you tell them, its just that ms told them to do something else |
14:02.23 | Mirrakor | therefore we don't use windows :D |
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14:02.31 | kirun | Half the trouble with computers are the things other people told them to do before you get to it |
14:02.32 | ct|kyle | ya |
14:02.43 | stoned | kirun: yes that |
14:02.48 | ct|kyle | i have to lean visual basic i have to switch back for that |
14:02.55 | ct|kyle | learn* |
14:02.56 | stoned | nah, go with c# |
14:03.03 | garryFre | ct|kyle I don't really know about how to do that, its just an app on a site I didn't program, I choose settings, click microphone and get no sound. I've tried various alsa settings, tried esd, did sacrifices to the cable gods. |
14:03.06 | stoned | its much more better |
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14:03.20 | kirun | I bought the book "Learn C++ in 24 Hours". It didn't work. |
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14:03.35 | prasna | hello all |
14:03.45 | ct|kyle | garryFre: if you set up a shoutcast and stream it using that |
14:04.38 | garryFre | hehe, kirun I know what you mean. I bought a book called Using C++ and it took me five reads to finally figure out the reason I didn't understand the book was because it was so horribly written. |
14:04.51 | ct|kyle | kirun: cout<<"test"; |
14:05.06 | stoned | non o |
14:05.09 | stoned | printf |
14:05.10 | garryFre | ct|kyle I guess I'll google streaming audio java to figure out what to do. |
14:05.10 | stoned | :) |
14:05.29 | ct|kyle | printf is C and JAVA cout is C++ |
14:05.36 | kirun | I was fine up until it got to pointers, where the book basically said "Now we're going to do a bunch of stuff without explaining why" |
14:05.45 | icwiener | std::cout << "Test" << std::endl; :D |
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14:06.00 | ct|kyle | i guess you can use printf in C++ just header files |
14:06.11 | garryFre | kirun: Omg, never a good sign. |
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14:06.42 | ct|kyle | kirun: heh arrays are the way around pointers |
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14:07.09 | garryFre | I've sent a number of letters to authors of such books saying, if you aren't going to explain things and if you use terms before defining them how are the beginners you wrote this book for going to understand you? |
14:07.51 | ct|kyle | it always hard to find a good boot to teach you |
14:08.22 | ct|kyle | book* |
14:08.52 | garryFre | Yep, I usually go by reviews, but sometimes the reviewers are a bunch of fanny kissers. |
14:09.13 | Skrot- | ct|kyle: You can use printf in c++ in your implementation (cpp-file) as well.. |
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14:10.15 | klees | is there a way to set the number of rows in the Panel to 1? |
14:10.39 | kirun | I got the Deitel book more recently... now I need a larger desk to keep the book open on :P |
14:10.59 | Skrot- | haha =) |
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14:11.08 | garryFre | This book's entire basis for teaching C++ was a class to save itself to a file and all it's atributes, but fully a quarter of the variable declarations were gone, and the code for writing it all to disk was missing. |
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14:11.42 | redmonkey | hi |
14:11.52 | kirun | The production quality, at least, is excellent... it has colour highlighted code samples |
14:11.56 | garryFre | That using C++ was the best sleeping pill I ever bought, I'd read about five pages and be confused to dizziness and drowziness. |
14:12.35 | klees | is there a way to set the number of rows in the Taskbar to 1? |
14:13.20 | ct|kyle | i found the best C / C++ reference Cplusplus.com |
14:13.30 | garryFre | right-click the panel, choose configure panel, than size. |
14:13.59 | ct|kyle | is there a way i can point each desktop to a different folder? |
14:14.11 | stoned | how does one enable mouse gestures in konqueror |
14:14.15 | stoned | just two simple ones |
14:14.19 | stoned | back/forward |
14:14.23 | garryFre | I tend to like books by wrox press |
14:14.35 | stoned | i like books with pictures |
14:14.37 | stoned | :) |
14:14.58 | kirun | You mean, the Head First ones? |
14:15.16 | garryFre | control center, regional and accessability, input, gestures |
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14:16.04 | kirun | "We're going to explain composition vs inheritance, so here's a picture of a duck pond" |
14:16.16 | garryFre | LoL |
14:16.33 | kirun | Which proves the system works... I remembered it! |
14:16.47 | garryFre | kirun: The book was written by a vorlon |
14:17.19 | stoned | AWEEEe |
14:17.23 | stoned | fuckk :( |
14:17.29 | stoned | I just broke my high e string |
14:17.37 | garryFre | Guitar? |
14:17.46 | stoned | and I don't have anymore, and I'll have to go down 10 exits in traffic to guitar center |
14:17.49 | stoned | :( |
14:18.17 | icwiener | A guitar player without extra strings is not a real guitar player. ;) |
14:18.32 | stoned | I play with .7-.36 |
14:18.36 | stoned | tiny strings |
14:18.40 | icwiener | (...says a guitar player without extra strings...) |
14:18.41 | stoned | they break easily |
14:18.58 | stoned | icwiener: http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/music/Mortal.mp3 |
14:19.00 | stoned | :) |
14:19.00 | icwiener | Wow, yeah, I believe that. |
14:19.03 | garryFre | Ironically, I saw guitar strings at a 7/11 store once. |
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14:19.37 | garryFre | I'm rockin to Mortal |
14:20.06 | stoned | you need stereo spakers |
14:20.14 | stoned | lead goes into one speaker, rythem in another |
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14:21.00 | garryFre | stoned pretty good stuff. |
14:21.05 | stoned | thanks |
14:21.07 | stoned | :) |
14:21.23 | stoned | the thing got clipped off at the end |
14:21.29 | icwiener | end abrupt. ;) |
14:21.34 | garryFre | Yep, I noticed |
14:21.39 | stoned | so yes, I broke all my strings, 3 guitars, ALL high e strings broken |
14:21.40 | stoned | :) |
14:21.56 | stoned | http://stoned.is.dreaming.org/music/sad.mp3 |
14:22.02 | stoned | its more classical melodic type |
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14:22.28 | stoned | I am going to make a death metal song for KDE |
14:22.39 | garryFre | :) |
14:23.11 | jsubl2 | stoned: mp3 is nice :-) |
14:23.11 | stoned | sad? |
14:23.11 | jsubl2 | yeah |
14:23.11 | stoned | :) thanks |
14:23.32 | stoned | so guys any help on enabling mouse gestueres in konqueror |
14:23.42 | stoned | I looked at input actions, but nothing is configured there |
14:23.43 | icwiener | stoned: I guess your ping is exploding right now? :) |
14:23.44 | stoned | its all blank |
14:23.52 | stoned | icwiener: :) |
14:23.55 | stoned | not really |
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14:24.17 | feindbild | ^^ |
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14:30.43 | icwiener | Interesting what metal guitar players call "sad". :D |
14:31.01 | illogic-al | lol |
14:31.07 | illogic-al | lolz! |
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14:32.09 | stoned | hi |
14:32.28 | stoned | illogic-al: what time did you leave yesterday? |
14:34.03 | stoned | I'm having some problems with passworless ssh |
14:34.22 | stoned | i generated the public rsa keys, copied it to authorized keys on the server, so far so good |
14:34.50 | stoned | I generated the keys on server, and copied them to authorized_keys2 on the client, but i can't do passworless login from server to client |
14:34.54 | stoned | it still asks for a password |
14:34.57 | stoned | any ideas? |
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14:36.59 | ct|kyle | anyone bind Window Grow Horizontal to a hotkey? |
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14:44.09 | feindbild | stoned: have you used a password when generating the keys? |
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14:44.49 | stoned | no it works |
14:44.52 | stoned | my stupid mistake |
14:45.05 | stoned | I accidentally forgot to put /.ssh/ |
14:45.05 | feindbild | stoned: if yes, use ssh-agent for passwordless login ... if no, generate with password and use ssh-agent .. |
14:45.35 | stoned | it got copied to /home/stoned/authorized_keys2 instead of /home/stoned/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
14:45.38 | stoned | :) |
14:45.38 | stoned | thanks bro |
14:46.10 | feindbild | ^^ |
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14:57.57 | oneforall | whats the command that will update the menu? |
14:58.39 | bram85 | oneforall: kappfinder, is i think what you mean |
14:59.04 | oneforall | yeah used that but its not finding limewire and I have a desktop file for it |
14:59.43 | oneforall | err it doesn't look in /usr/local does it |
14:59.45 | pinotree | kbuildsycoca |
14:59.58 | oneforall | /usr/local/share |
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15:00.53 | oneforall | wow ran that in konsole and lots of warnings for mine types from mplayer |
15:01.06 | oneforall | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-mpeg2' etc |
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15:02.56 | oneforall | hmm still didn't add that one |
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15:07.07 | waterpie | hi all |
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15:07.49 | waterpie | can someone pls tell me how to compile the simple kde hello world example from http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/p2.html ? |
15:08.23 | waterpie | i use: g++ tut2.cpp -I/usr/include/kde/ -I/usr/include/qt3/ -L/usr/lib/qt3/ -L/usr/lib/kde3/ -L/usr/lib/ -lqt-mt |
15:10.22 | Skrot- | What's the error? |
15:10.51 | waterpie | tut2.cpp:(.text+0x97): undefined reference to `i18n(char const*)' |
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15:10.58 | waterpie | ut2.cpp:(.text+0x201): undefined reference to `KApplication::~KApplication()' |
15:11.25 | waterpie | it seems that i mut link a kde lib, but i don't know which |
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15:15.42 | Skrot- | Try -lkdeui |
15:15.43 | pinotree | waterpie: you miss -lkdecore |
15:15.47 | Skrot- | right |
15:16.26 | waterpie | pinotree: thanks |
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15:26.31 | thundergirl | oi |
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15:26.41 | thundergirl | alguem quer tc cmg |
15:26.50 | pinotree | thundergirl: english, please |
15:26.51 | thundergirl | alguem q fale portugeussss nehh |
15:27.03 | thundergirl | hi pinotree |
15:27.10 | thundergirl | how are you? |
15:27.16 | pinotree | fine |
15:27.30 | thiago | thundergirl: #kde-brasil |
15:27.38 | thundergirl | do you are from pinetree? |
15:27.49 | thundergirl | oi thiago |
15:28.12 | Sho_ | pinotree is a pine tree? :) |
15:28.21 | thundergirl | pinotree helloooooooooo |
15:28.33 | pinotree | hi? |
15:29.06 | thundergirl | sho_ i do'nt understand who you 're speaking |
15:29.20 | Sho_ | thundergirl: sorry, I was making a joke |
15:29.21 | thundergirl | pinotree |
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15:29.24 | pinotree | yes? |
15:29.44 | thundergirl | okay sho_ |
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15:29.59 | thundergirl | you're a clown |
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15:30.33 | thundergirl | i'm speaking with yow sho_ |
15:31.04 | thundergirl | hello |
15:31.11 | thundergirl | anybobyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
15:31.15 | thundergirl | opssssss |
15:31.22 | thundergirl | anybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
15:31.29 | thundergirl | bye byeeeeeeee |
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15:34.52 | ron_o | what's the run manager in kde called, that you get from hitting alt+f2? |
15:35.09 | thiago | minicli |
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15:36.09 | ron_o | it doesn't work in my terminal. |
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15:36.25 | ron_o | I was thinking of using the kde run box/manager in xfce |
15:36.28 | ron_o | I like it better. |
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15:37.34 | thiago | it works like this: dcop kdesktop default popupExecuteCommand |
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15:38.29 | ron_o | thanks |
15:38.40 | Sho_ | ron_o: The "Run Command" dialog / minicli is opened by the process that draws the KDE desktop layer (kdesktop), and thus won't be available in a normal XFce session |
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15:38.50 | ron_o | I see. |
15:38.51 | ron_o | thanks. |
15:39.23 | Sho_ | ron_o: in KDE4 it's a seperate entity called KRunner, so maybe your wish will come true at that point (additionally KRunner is a lot cooler than the old minicli) |
15:40.13 | ron_o | no such luck. :/ |
15:40.16 | ron_o | I'll keep looking. |
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15:41.24 | ron_o | krunner's in kde4. So I'd have to upgrade if I wanted it, and I don't. |
15:42.12 | Sho_ | ron_o: Yes, which is why I wrote "maybe your wish will come true at that point" (i.e. when KDE 4 is released), looking to the future :) |
15:42.41 | ron_o | I see. well I have read. Sorry. :/ |
15:42.44 | benJIman | krunner seems rather bad after using kickoff. |
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15:43.42 | hayig2000 | hi all, is there a program that measures the amount of data transfered via DSL per month? |
15:43.44 | Sho_ | benJIman: How so? |
15:46.16 | benJIman | Sho_: It's basically just minicli. |
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15:46.27 | benJIman | Fortunately kickoff is being ported to kde4 \o/ |
15:46.34 | waterpie | hmm. ok. can someone pls help with how to compile the tutorial in: http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/p3.html ? |
15:46.37 | benJIman | I don't know why it's not accepted by upstreadm though. |
15:46.52 | Sho_ | benJIman: Well, it does a lot more than the old minicli ... |
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15:47.25 | derek | benJIman: out of curiosity, what do you like about kickoff |
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15:48.14 | benJIman | derek: easy way to start anything from apps to web pages to documents. |
15:48.31 | thiago | hayig2000: it's called iptables. |
15:48.33 | muh2000 | how to bin mouse4 and mouse5 in konqueror for the operation forward and backward ? |
15:48.53 | benJIman | derek: eg hit menu keyboard shortcut and type "image ed" hit enter and you have krita open, hit menu key type some words from a document you're working on, hit enter and you have it opene in a word proecessor etc. |
15:49.09 | Sho_ | (so can KRunner) |
15:49.16 | benJIman | derek: And easy drag and drop organisation of the menu itself |
15:49.41 | derek | benJIman: I agree, and use it. Have you used the tree menu very often? I think I have used it maybe 2-3 times in the last months |
15:50.10 | benJIman | derek: No, because the favourites provides enough things |
15:50.36 | derek | the only thing I don't like is how the convoluted way to get to switch user |
15:50.46 | Sho_ | IMO the KDE4 port of Kickoff should actually re-use the KRunner technology |
15:50.55 | benJIman | Sho_: Why? |
15:51.04 | Sho_ | benJIman: Code reuse? No need to have two implementations of the same |
15:51.05 | benJIman | kickoff has pluggable search backends. |
15:51.13 | Sho_ | benJIman: Err, so has KRunner - that's the entire point |
15:51.16 | benJIman | Sho_: kickoff was before krunner, where was the code reuse |
15:51.21 | Sho_ | benJIman: Every match provider is pluggable |
15:51.29 | benJIman | NIH |
15:51.31 | Sho_ | The Strigi one, the shell one, the calculator one, ... |
15:51.34 | waterpie | can someone pls help with how to compile the tutorial in: http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/tutorial/p3.html ? |
15:51.43 | derek | benJIman: kickoff was before plasma and the kdesktop redesign |
15:51.50 | benJIman | derek: so. |
15:52.06 | derek | benJIman: which will be the basis of all the desktop stuff |
15:52.14 | benJIman | derek: It makes no difference. |
15:52.46 | Sho_ | benJIman: It's not direct duplication - KRunner's search provider uses Strigi for example, which is how it should be, and why now duplicate that for Kickoff? |
15:52.48 | derek | benJIman: not arguing, but kde4 desktop will be substantially different from kde3 |
15:53.13 | benJIman | Sho_: kickoff could use strigi too. |
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15:53.35 | Sho_ | benJIman: Yes, by writing a backend for it. Or you could just port Kickoff to use KRunner, instead of keeping the two seperate. |
15:53.48 | o00o00o | what is the KDE default windows manager ? |
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15:53.56 | pinotree | kwin |
15:53.57 | benJIman | o00o00o: kwin. |
15:53.57 | derek | benJIman: kickoff is one of these things that you either love or hate |
15:54.01 | Sho_ | Not porting to KRunner will minimize Kickoff's chances of getting into KDE 4, too, after all |
15:54.54 | o00o00o | i can do from gnome something like this "kwin --replace |
15:55.08 | o00o00o | to change the windows manager ? |
15:55.09 | Sho_ | If Gnome's window manager is well-behaved, yes |
15:55.26 | pinotree | if metacity, yes |
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15:59.20 | Sho_ | benJIman: We presently don't have a menu for KDE 4 -- if the Kickoff KDE4 port were to focus on integratability into kdebase/workspace (which involves eschewing private implementations in favor of already present upstream solutions), it might well end up being the new menu if Novell is interested in pursuing that |
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16:18.12 | killown | <kde-i18n-pt_br-subscribe@mail.kde.org>: |
16:18.12 | killown | Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) |
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16:20.00 | braindump03 | Hey, is it possible to replace Konqueror with dolphin systemwide? |
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16:24.29 | thundergirl | hi |
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16:30.21 | dev-zero | hi everyone |
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16:31.18 | Saviq | maybe now... anyone knows how to get current project size from dcop or rename files inside a data project? |
16:31.36 | Saviq | or is there another way to integrate with k3b? |
16:32.03 | dev-zero | got a little problem with konqueror (as webbrowser): I've set the minimal and the default font size but it seems to get ignored on some sites/fonts |
16:32.34 | dev-zero | when I manually make the font smaller it works |
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16:40.39 | OffPlanet | hello to all, attn- dual screeners, on left screen windows get created with wrong size and position the home window exit button is off screen and background shows one quarter of screen next to location menu. Right screen behaves as expected. runing 3.5.4. I would like some ideas on what to check. |
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16:46.23 | waterpie | ok, i found out |
16:46.25 | waterpie | bye all |
16:46.27 | waterpie | cu |
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16:58.02 | deathxxx12345 | hi |
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17:04.48 | fungos | is there any application that creates movies from desktop screenshots? for demonstration about software usage, etc.? |
17:04.54 | pime | hi |
17:05.02 | logixoul | fungos: maybe screenkast |
17:05.11 | pime | And XVidCap |
17:05.37 | fungos | thanks, I will try these |
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17:06.54 | pime | XVidCap is better though |
17:07.06 | pime | but if you have SUSE , you need the old version, but it still works good. |
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17:07.22 | fungos | I use kubuntu .. but I cant find it .. :( |
17:07.42 | Sho_ | *thing |
17:08.35 | fungos | argh.. ubuntu doesnt have any of these!! :S :S :S |
17:08.54 | pime | UGH?! are you kidding me? |
17:09.04 | pime | <PROTECTED> |
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17:09.31 | Sho_ | pime: Their package tree indeed doesn't list either (http://packages.ubuntu.com/) |
17:10.04 | fungos | yeah.. I hate these limited distros.. I was happy when used Gentoo :( |
17:10.32 | pime | i never used Gentoo, i only had Red hat and SUSE, im using SUSE at the moment |
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17:11.31 | fungos | Gentoo is good, but requires too much patience.... |
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17:12.11 | pime | lol ok |
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17:14.49 | pime | anyone has the irc adress to the chatroom of Chris Pirillo? |
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17:16.08 | lakshmi_ | Hi everyone, how do i install kile in Sabayon? |
17:16.17 | logixoul | ask in #sabayon |
17:16.26 | lakshmi_ | ok sure, thanks |
17:16.32 | logixoul | np |
17:16.56 | pime | hey, how do i change my KDE desktop to GNOME? |
17:17.13 | pime | because i already know how to install both KDE and GNOME applications |
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17:17.49 | pime | nevermind, i found it but i dont wanna do it now |
17:18.09 | Komzzpa | pime, change session type in your login manager |
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17:18.48 | pime | Whats the program name? |
17:18.49 | Nikoladze | hey all, does anyone know how to get to the view in kexi which shows the links between your tables? I just got it now and can't figure it out |
17:19.36 | Komzzpa | pime, kdm. It's the logon screen you see after turning your machine on. |
17:20.22 | pime | OH YEAH! |
17:20.32 | pime | LMAO! damn i feel stupid. |
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17:27.10 | pime | Komzzpa, i'm on KDM, now what do i do? |
17:27.52 | Komzzpa | pime, find a button "session type" and choose GNOME |
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17:29.35 | pime | ok, found it, thanks Komzzpa =) |
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18:27.23 | Tafsen | How can I show the menu in kpf2? |
18:28.25 | Sho_ | KPF2? |
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18:29.08 | logixoul | Tafsen: ctrl+m works in most kde apps |
18:30.24 | Sho_ | logixoul: If KPF2 is what I think it is it's not a KDE app :) |
18:30.48 | hacosta | where does kdevelop look for headers when i click on generate ctags? |
18:31.07 | Sho_ | hacosta: There's a #kdevelop I think |
18:31.08 | logixoul | Sho_: hmm. I was thinking K Personal Fileserver though that's not even an app :) |
18:31.35 | hacosta | oh.. thanks Sho_ |
18:31.50 | Sho_ | logixoul: But there's no "2" of the kpf applet, iirc |
18:31.54 | logixoul | true |
18:32.10 | Sho_ | logixoul: So he probably means "Kerio Personal Firewall" |
18:32.31 | logixoul | ah ic. google is of the same opinion. |
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18:33.17 | bla | Hi. |
18:33.58 | bla | I wonder... how can I make KDE see mine two xinerama screens as separate set of virtual dekstop instead of one wide? |
18:34.02 | bla | It it possible? |
18:34.18 | Sho_ | bla: That has recently been developed for KDE 4 |
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18:34.50 | bla | I'll try merging it on gentoo ~amd64. |
18:35.00 | bla | I'm used to enlightenment 0.17 which has such behaviour by default. |
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18:35.05 | bla | But it's in very unstable state. |
18:35.13 | Sho_ | bla: So is KDE 4, unfortunately (beta) |
18:35.40 | bla | Maybe not in such in development state. If there are at least some packages. |
18:35.51 | bla | (there are no for e17; just repos) |
18:36.00 | Sho_ | only in the KDE team's overlay |
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18:36.08 | Sho_ | btw: #gentoo-kde before pinotree slaps us |
18:36.16 | Sho_ | :) |
18:36.18 | bla | (-; Ok. |
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18:44.27 | Thorrn4 | hello, is there a way to View and extract .7z files from ARK ? |
18:45.28 | logixoul | yea, there's a plugin for that on kde-apps I think |
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18:57.23 | logixoul | Is there a list of hidden kate shortcuts? Like the Ctrl+K one that deletes the current line. |
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19:05.16 | sabayonlive-1523 | can anyone help me with this compviz? |
19:05.27 | Sho_ | try #compiz |
19:07.05 | oneforall | how can I add an ipod when hal gives that popup . I tried going threw the configure to have it open gtkpod but its not working |
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19:13.14 | rindolf | Hi all. |
19:13.32 | rindolf | I have an old article in one of my RSS feeds in akregator which I want to export as HTML. |
19:13.36 | rindolf | What should I do? |
19:14.08 | Sho_ | rindolf: Can you code? |
19:14.19 | rindolf | Sho_: sure. |
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19:14.40 | Sho_ | rindolf: Akregator uses Metakit as database library, and there's a Python API to Metakit |
19:14.49 | rindolf | Sho_: I see. |
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19:15.20 | Sho_ | rindolf: My solution would be to write a few lines of Python that performs a query on the feed's archive file and outputs the article text field |
19:16.00 | Sho_ | rindolf: The DBs are in ~/.kde/share/apps/akregator/Archive and the apidox are on http://www.equi4.com/metakit/python.html |
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19:16.56 | rindolf | Sho_: OK, thanks. |
19:17.12 | Sho_ | I agree that's not very user-friendly, but Akregator has no export functionality I know of |
19:17.26 | Sho_ | And it's better than nothing ... |
19:18.01 | logixoul | rindolf: alternatively, try copy&pasting the article (together with links, images, etc) into something wysiwig like KWord or TinyMCE. Then save it. |
19:18.36 | Sho_ | That's probably not going to copy any images, though |
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19:19.09 | logixoul | Sho_: if they're references to something on the web, it does |
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19:19.26 | logixoul | rindolf: you can open that in firefox: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/example_full.php |
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19:20.43 | Sho_ | logixoul: Well, I just copied an article into both KWord and TinyMCE and image references and links were not preserved |
19:21.03 | logixoul | weird, it worked for me 2 days ago. lemme try again. |
19:22.09 | logixoul | Sho_: works for me on http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/example_full.php with Firefox 2.0.0.6 |
19:22.32 | Sho_ | Not here |
19:22.36 | logixoul | hmm |
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19:23.16 | Sho_ | (That's via Ctrl+V btw, if I use the "Paste" action in the TinyMCE context menu it opens a JavaScript popup that Cut/Copy/Paste are not available in Firefox) |
19:23.35 | logixoul | I only used Ctrl+V |
19:23.46 | logixoul | I copied the entire http://www.wikipedia.org page |
19:24.06 | logixoul | it was 100% preserved (including layout) except the form field |
19:24.10 | Sho_ | I'm copying an article with images from Akregator |
19:24.15 | logixoul | aaah |
19:24.18 | Sho_ | I don't have the wikipedia.org page in my Akregator ... |
19:24.40 | logixoul | damn. I forgot we're talking about Akregator. |
19:24.48 | logixoul | I assumed Akregator used HTML internally |
19:24.53 | logixoul | uses* |
19:24.55 | Sho_ | It does |
19:25.02 | Sho_ | But that doesn't mean it puts HTML in the clipboard |
19:25.24 | logixoul | you're right... |
19:26.03 | Sho_ | And it gets better, when I copy wikipedia.org from Konqueror and do Ctrl+V in TinyMCE in Firefox, I actually get nothing |
19:26.15 | Sho_ | So a copy from Akregator (which uses KHTML as well) even works better than that ;) |
19:27.26 | logixoul | indeed |
19:27.38 | Sho_ | anyhow, Python to the rescue |
19:27.42 | logixoul | yep |
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19:32.44 | aib | i've got a debian package of our software, and would like to include it's name and icon in a K-Menu entry. how do I go about doing that? |
19:32.51 | nosrednaekim | hello, I noticed that sabayon(in 3.4) colors its menubars differently from the rest of the theme in KDE. I was wondering how you do this. I would like to do it in kubuntu |
19:33.12 | benJIman | Some style engines allow you to do that. |
19:33.17 | benJIman | Possibly polyester does. |
19:33.35 | benJIman | Qtcurve lets you it seems. |
19:33.45 | nosrednaekim | benJIman: yeah... sabayon uses polyester. but I was trying to find the setting for it. |
19:34.21 | benJIman | Have a look in kcontrol -> appearance and themes -> style -> configure |
19:34.27 | UndrWater | polyester has an advanced setting.... |
19:34.30 | UndrWater | check that out |
19:34.37 | UndrWater | there are some color changes in there |
19:34.58 | UndrWater | can't stand that red ;) |
19:35.26 | nosrednaekim | ah.... yeah... found the menu bar highlight..except its greyed out no matter what other options I select... |
19:37.39 | nosrednaekim | ah found it NM... you have to enable the stripe, apply.. THEN change the color |
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19:39.39 | UndrWater | there you go |
19:40.14 | oneforall | so has any one configed an ipod with gtkpod hal ? |
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19:46.14 | aib | where can I find documentation for including kicker/kmenu/desktop entries manually? |
19:47.12 | logixoul | try http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ |
19:47.19 | logixoul | (may be too technical) |
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19:48.48 | ct|kyle | oi |
19:49.02 | aib | i've found example desktop entry files. but when i grep in ~/.kde for known icons, I see references all over the place. i'm hoping to find something that describes that directory structure..what to put where |
19:50.09 | ct|kyle | aib: what are you trying to do. pull the icons from different directories? |
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19:50.53 | aib | no, i've got a debian package of our software, and i can run a post-install script, and i'm hoping to have this script create kicker, kmenu and desktop entries for our application |
19:50.58 | oneforall | geez where is that part again to have the icon for media loaded to show in the kicker ? |
19:51.01 | oneforall | desktop |
19:52.07 | ct|kyle | were does it set the location it takes the file's(icons's) from? |
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19:52.24 | lunitik | Anyone else having issues with Konqueror from 3.5.7 and Flash? |
19:52.28 | oneforall | ah got the desktop one but whast the one for the kicker? |
19:53.16 | oneforall | and how do i config it to mount on media/ipod not this weird BRITTNESS 1 |
19:53.42 | oneforall | looks liek it took it from a britney spears song on the ipod eh |
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19:55.09 | ct|kyle | does anyone know what file KDE uses to get the desktop icons loaded? |
19:55.33 | aib | try reading this http://docs.kde.org/userguide/kde-menu.html |
19:55.37 | aib | not sure if it helps me yet |
19:56.04 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: The desktop displays the contents of a "Desktop" folder in your home directory by default |
19:56.42 | ct|kyle | Sho_: i know i want to modify the code so it changes with each desktop |
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19:57.07 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: In that case you need to look at the sourcecode for the 'kdesktop' application in the kdebase module |
19:57.11 | ct|kyle | AKA i can have One desktop to program on with all those resources anotehr for other things |
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19:57.39 | ayman | please i need ur help |
19:57.47 | ct|kyle | I've been looking at the source code |
19:57.56 | nosrednaekim | ayman: yeah? |
19:58.00 | ct|kyle | ayman: what do you need? |
19:58.15 | ayman | i am looking for an application to run mp3 |
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19:58.26 | ayman | i download xmms |
19:58.37 | icwiener | amarok |
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19:58.42 | benJIman | ayman: Your distro's channel should be able to help you get mp3 support on your distribution. |
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19:58.50 | ayman | but i am new in linux |
19:58.56 | logixoul | so? |
19:59.02 | ct|kyle | ayman: what distro do you have? |
19:59.10 | ayman | i have fedora |
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19:59.16 | benJIman | Ask in #fedora. |
19:59.21 | ayman | yes |
19:59.25 | ayman | ok |
19:59.27 | ct|kyle | <PROTECTED> |
19:59.30 | ayman | thanks |
20:00.01 | TomRiddle | anyone here using compiz-fusion? |
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20:00.45 | TomRiddle | anyone here using compiz-fusion? |
20:01.06 | nosrednaekim | yeah |
20:01.34 | ct|kyle | Sho_: what file would you think KDE reads the ~/DESKTOP files in? |
20:01.44 | TomRiddle | is it possible to have diff wallpapers on compiz-fusion on each side of the cube? nosrednaekim |
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20:02.12 | nosrednaekim | TomRiddle:no clue... ask in #compiz |
20:02.44 | TomRiddle | lol they say that i have to stop kde from drawing my desktop |
20:02.46 | illogic-al | ah see pinotree's been abusing his big OP stick again. what a surprise. |
20:02.50 | illogic-al | not. |
20:03.02 | nosrednaekim | OP? |
20:03.10 | illogic-al | operator |
20:03.20 | pinotree | illogic-al: mood for insulting? |
20:03.31 | pinotree | does it touch you personally? |
20:03.41 | pinotree | what does it _care_ to you? |
20:03.57 | illogic-al | pinotree: yes, abuse of power does "touch" me personally. |
20:03.57 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: kdiconview.cc |
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20:04.16 | pinotree | oh good |
20:04.20 | ct|kyle | Sho_: what is the path? |
20:04.51 | oneforall | err applet for the media storage iirc |
20:04.57 | pinotree | illogic-al: that does not give you the right to throw any kind of offence on me |
20:05.01 | pinotree | so, cut that |
20:05.05 | illogic-al | any irssi users present? |
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20:05.19 | pinotree | illogic-al: offtopic. |
20:05.35 | illogic-al | pinotree: I'm not throwing any abuse at you. you're just trying to look for a way to kick me. |
20:05.38 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: kdebase/kdesktop/kdiconview.cc |
20:06.10 | pinotree | illogic-al: and what would be the logic behind this? prove that you have nothing else to do? |
20:06.58 | illogic-al | I wonder is porting of konvi to kde4 has started yet. |
20:07.04 | ct|kyle | Sho_: thanks |
20:07.41 | oneforall | any one get device was safely unmounted but could not be ejected popup? |
20:07.46 | oneforall | for the ipod nano |
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20:08.21 | illogic-al | aol.com. wow. |
20:08.36 | Sho_ | illogic-al: We've done some prototyping, yeah, but there's no buildable source in the repos yet |
20:09.31 | illogic-al | Sho_: cool. are you guys planning on having a version out with the kde4 release or after? |
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20:10.10 | *** mode/#kde [-b *!n=Webchat@*.reznet.ucalgary.ca] by pinotree |
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20:10.38 | Sho_ | illogic-al: We're hoping to have a fairly straight port in time for 4 |
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20:11.09 | pinotree | Sho_: when do you have the next version planned? |
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20:11.21 | illogic-al | Sho_: so y'all won't be supporting kde 3 and 4 at the same time then i take it. |
20:11.53 | Sho_ | The next version is 1.1 for KDE 3.x, which should be out in a few weeks |
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20:12.01 | Sho_ | That's going to be the last significant release for KDE 3 |
20:12.18 | pinotree | planning to start the kde4 port after that? \o/ |
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20:13.03 | illogic-al | Sho_: I'll probably be bugging you with "it doesn't build on OS X" messages once porting gets started. |
20:13.04 | DoctorPepper | hi guys |
20:13.10 | illogic-al | I apologize in advance :-D |
20:13.18 | Sho_ | pinotree: Even before that during 1.1's string freeze I hope ... ideally I'd want to move something working to trunk/extragear right after tagging 1.1 |
20:13.31 | illogic-al | hi DoctorPepper |
20:13.39 | pinotree | Sho_: go go go |
20:14.05 | Sho_ | illogic-al: Notably it already builds on OS X and I don't see that changing ;) |
20:14.20 | ct|kyle | how well does KDE work in Vista? |
20:14.23 | illogic-al | Sho_: true. |
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20:16.49 | DoctorPepper | can someone help , i have a problem with amarok , since my last reboot amarok don't want to play ogg file even if all the needed library are installed |
20:17.19 | illogic-al | DoctorPepper: go to #amarok and ask there. |
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20:18.51 | DoctorPepper | ok thanks |
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20:19.00 | illogic-al | no prob |
20:19.12 | ct|kyle | is control Center part of KDE? |
20:19.30 | logixoul | in kde4, yes. in kde3, not. |
20:19.32 | illogic-al | yup |
20:19.39 | logixoul | err.. |
20:19.43 | logixoul | what illogic-al said |
20:19.48 | illogic-al | heheh |
20:19.51 | ct|kyle | heh |
20:20.05 | ct|kyle | where does it set the paths then? |
20:20.10 | UndrWater | ct|kyle: kcontrol is |
20:20.23 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: which paths might those be? |
20:20.23 | logixoul | UndrWater: a.k.a. KDE Control Center :) |
20:20.40 | UndrWater | :) |
20:20.40 | logixoul | night folks |
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20:21.24 | ct|kyle | Desktop |
20:22.03 | ct|kyle | i want to change desktop path for each desktop |
20:23.36 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: desktop path? |
20:23.44 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: yes |
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20:24.28 | illogic-al | desktops don't have paths. unless you mean the executables that start the desktops. |
20:25.30 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: what is ~/Desktop ? |
20:25.42 | illogic-al | ooooh. that. |
20:25.55 | illogic-al | that the desktop directory. |
20:26.10 | illogic-al | and I do believe it is possible to change that. let me check. |
20:26.59 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: you can change it in the control center. I just tested it. but it would be nice to change it for each Desktop |
20:27.28 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: each desktop has only one desktop. |
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20:28.40 | ct|kyle | each desktop takes from the desktop directory that you set. i was hoping to change the code so that each desktop can take from different directories |
20:28.41 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: rasther, each desktop displays the same desktop directory. |
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20:29.10 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: i know it would involve modifying the code |
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20:29.21 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: well that's not something that you look in kcontrol to set. that's something you look in the code to set. |
20:30.13 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: kdebase is where you'd need to look to set that. |
20:30.22 | illogic-al | s/set/change |
20:30.33 | ct|kyle | ok |
20:30.58 | oneforall | err why is this hal and media picking the mount name and how do i change it ? I removed it from kcontrol>periphials>stroage media |
20:31.27 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: any specific file? |
20:31.28 | oneforall | but it just keeps mounting it as media/BRITT.. |
20:31.49 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: yes, but i don't know it. |
20:31.57 | ct|kyle | ok |
20:32.26 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: because it will have to change the path when it changes desktops |
20:32.46 | n3kl__ | Anyone know how I can add openclipart to karbon |
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20:33.39 | illogic-al | n3kl__: someone in #koffice might know |
20:33.55 | n3kl__ | ah |
20:33.57 | n3kl__ | thanks |
20:34.57 | runlevelten | Common sense would tell you to see what the kcontrol setting changes, then change that in the global files instead of the user's kde directory. |
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20:35.55 | runlevelten | ..or at least to try it.. |
20:37.20 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37067 this bug report may have info useful to you. |
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20:37.32 | tavla | hi all -- how to make KDE run a backup script when a USB stick is plugged in? |
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20:41.24 | killown | exist any tool to configura multimidia keyboard in kde? |
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20:46.03 | LamerMan | Hi, everyone. :) I am new with linux and i have just launched kdevelop. Could you please help me to resolve this problem: when i try to compile simple helloWorld appliction the following error occur: AUTOCONF NOT FOUND, exited with status 2 |
20:46.08 | LamerMan | i installed autoconf 2.61 package |
20:46.16 | LamerMan | but it didn't help |
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21:07.56 | tapas | how can i bind an arbitrary command to a hotkey? |
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21:13.23 | tapas | basically i want to bind |
21:13.32 | tapas | amarok `xclip -o` |
21:13.37 | tapas | to some key |
21:13.41 | tapas | combo |
21:14.09 | illogic-al | well that |
21:14.16 | illogic-al | might require |
21:14.21 | illogic-al | you to launch |
21:14.27 | illogic-al | some script |
21:14.36 | illogic-al | and bind that |
21:14.42 | tapas | :) |
21:14.43 | illogic-al | to a key |
21:14.45 | illogic-al | combo |
21:14.52 | tapas | please |
21:14.54 | tapas | elaborate |
21:14.54 | tapas | ! |
21:14.55 | tapas | ;) |
21:15.05 | illogic-al | make a script |
21:15.16 | illogic-al | which has |
21:15.17 | tapas | ok |
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21:15.25 | illogic-al | amarok 'xclip -o' |
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21:15.33 | illogic-al | and bind that |
21:15.37 | illogic-al | to a key |
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21:15.42 | tapas | i know how to create a script |
21:15.45 | tapas | the binding part is the problem |
21:15.59 | tapas | i must be blindstruck ;) |
21:16.01 | runlevelten | tapas: use khotkeys. |
21:16.16 | illogic-al | tapas: you're using kde right? |
21:16.20 | tapas | yes |
21:16.25 | runlevelten | kcontrol » regional & accessibility » input actions. |
21:16.47 | illogic-al | tapas: you know which key you want to bind? |
21:16.58 | tapas | ah ok, got it |
21:17.00 | tapas | thanks |
21:17.05 | runlevelten | np :) |
21:17.22 | tapas | i was confused by this dialog only having voice and gesture stuff. the keyboard stuff is a bit hidden :) |
21:17.23 | illogic-al | good. |
21:17.25 | swanfl | is there a program in KDE that can make signs like in print shop? |
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21:25.06 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
21:25.38 | illogic-al | oneforall: is it still mounted? |
21:26.43 | oneforall | no it unmounted like it said but that popup saying it did unmount but couldn't be ejected. plus the ipod still says Do Not Disconnect |
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21:31.02 | illogic-al | well I believe 'eject' works on usb devices. |
21:31.55 | oneforall | well its failing on this one :( |
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21:32.55 | oneforall | ok when I look at the desktop icon that it adds there. I see in properties username and group root . why did it get root |
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21:36.55 | stemcel | is there any way to customize the behavior of the toolbar in Konqueror? By that I mean, make the icons smaller? I'm not talking about the icons in the window but the ones on the toolbar |
21:37.00 | stemcel | and perhaps remove the text thre? |
21:37.01 | stemcel | there* |
21:38.59 | stemcel | no one ever talks in this channel |
21:39.16 | stemcel | it's just crazy: 313 nicks and no one talking |
21:40.24 | illogic-al | oneforall: udev rules |
21:40.58 | illogic-al | stemcel: right click on the taskbar |
21:41.11 | illogic-al | then everything will be illuminated. |
21:41.16 | stemcel | you're magical |
21:41.20 | stemcel | that was amazing, thanks! |
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21:41.27 | oneforall | udev rules? for username and group ? |
21:41.33 | illogic-al | magically delicious too. |
21:41.40 | illogic-al | guys can't taste though... |
21:42.03 | stemcel | it's just not in the configuration options? right-click on taskbar only? |
21:42.10 | illogic-al | oneforall: don't know. that's something for you to check out in your distro's channel or google. |
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21:42.19 | illogic-al | or #udev |
21:42.23 | illogic-al | or #linux |
21:42.33 | stemcel | while i'm on the subject of konqueror... Is there any way to alter the way that it displays text next to icons? |
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21:43.14 | stemcel | i.e. it's far more willing to break words in to multiple lines than some $OTHER_OS file managers I could name... |
21:44.46 | oneforall | well the ipod aint in any of the rules |
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22:18.33 | Level15 | hey, will konqueror in kde 4 use khtml or webkit? |
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22:22.34 | letto | Level15: webkit |
22:23.19 | pinotree | nope |
22:23.25 | pinotree | khtml |
22:23.29 | Level15 | letto: ok, cool. That means that pages working on safari should work also on konq, right? I'm asking specifically b/c of gmail and friends... |
22:23.35 | Level15 | hmm |
22:23.42 | Level15 | ok... which one is it? |
22:23.46 | pinotree | khtml |
22:24.18 | Level15 | but there are plans to move to webkit, right? |
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22:26.57 | illogic-al | Level15: no. webkit contains changes not present in khtml and vice versa |
22:27.40 | Level15 | illogic-al: hmm, that's sad, i guess |
22:28.00 | TheSimkin | Level15: konq renders so much faster than safari though |
22:28.21 | Level15 | TheSimkin: yeah, but some sites work with safari and not with konq... |
22:28.33 | Level15 | and i just don't like firing firefox every now and then... |
22:28.35 | TheSimkin | Level15: only one i can think of is google docs... |
22:28.48 | TheSimkin | i guess gmail to a lesser degree. |
22:28.56 | Level15 | TheSimkin: and calendar, and gmail unless on the basic interface... |
22:29.08 | TheSimkin | i just use korganizer. |
22:29.12 | TheSimkin | but i guess if i didn't that'd be a pain. |
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22:29.38 | Level15 | though i *think* some of those don't work on safari as well... not sure |
22:29.40 | TheSimkin | Level15: i wonder if it's a minor thing that prevents calendar from working or if it's huge. |
22:29.40 | Mrrrr | afaik : KDE 4's Konq will stay KHTML, while they have decided to Unfork for the future and as such they will be syncing closer to WebKit, and will after KDE 4 sometime use an embedded version for Konq |
22:29.46 | Mrrrr | thats what I seem to remember :) |
22:30.02 | n3kl__ | What is the standard power managemnet interface for linux/kde? I want to be able to standby with WOL. |
22:30.21 | n3kl__ | Perhaps WOL doesn't matter. |
22:31.01 | TheSimkin | power management, you don't run folding at home? |
22:31.05 | TheSimkin | ;) |
22:31.15 | AmyRose | I use kpowersave |
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22:31.34 | TheSimkin | I think there is klaptop also |
22:31.46 | AmyRose | klaptop is silly |
22:32.03 | AmyRose | It said I was running out of power, with a percentage above 4 billion |
22:32.05 | n3kl__ | AmyRose: kpowersave is an interface to the powersave daemon, right? |
22:32.12 | AmyRose | n3kl__: Yes |
22:32.35 | n3kl__ | Are there any gui utilities to manage a UPS? |
22:32.36 | AmyRose | I have grown to like it |
22:32.48 | n3kl__ | AmyRose: I didn't like the daemon portion of that one. |
22:33.07 | illogic-al | kUPS? |
22:34.12 | n3kl__ | kups is for cups |
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22:41.26 | MrEmbedded | how can I display the currently running processes in the UI (KDE)? in the CLI I use ps |
22:41.59 | benJIman | MrEmbedded: hit control-esc |
22:43.27 | MrEmbedded | cool thanks |
22:43.40 | MrEmbedded | what's the name of the app that does this? the CLI command? |
22:43.57 | pinotree | ksysguard |
22:44.17 | MrEmbedded | thanks for the help |
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22:48.41 | jhealey | hello |
22:48.55 | jhealey | anyone here |
22:49.15 | Liquid_Fire | lots of people |
22:49.18 | illogic-al | nobody here but us... |
22:49.21 | Liquid_Fire | mostly idle :) |
22:49.22 | illogic-al | damn it. |
22:49.24 | pinotree | just put your questions |
22:50.19 | jhealey | any linux professionals here |
22:50.42 | jhealey | i'd like to persue some training and certs, I'd like to get some opinions about that |
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22:50.54 | jhealey | i'm a career changer |
22:50.54 | illogic-al | jhealey: ##linux |
22:51.08 | illogic-al | or better yet. google. |
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22:51.32 | jhealey | yeah, google, but i'd like some live opinions |
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22:52.17 | illogic-al | and pinotree would like ontopic discussions. don't piss him off or he'll kick you. |
22:52.27 | jhealey | oh my |
22:52.29 | jhealey | ok |
22:52.38 | jhealey | ok. |
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22:52.53 | pinotree | oh, and illogic-al feels funny piss off people this way |
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22:53.58 | illogic-al | eh? |
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23:17.36 | jamiekid | hi all im new at this hope you are all well |
23:17.50 | ct|kyle | oi |
23:17.51 | illogic-al | hi jamiekid, need help? |
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23:18.17 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: thanks for that bug report thread. i added my thoughts on it |
23:18.26 | jamiekid | iv used chatrooms before but never monzila |
23:18.40 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: i'd hoped you would have started coding something :-) |
23:18.44 | eSa| | hello, kdesktop isn't showing the desktop anymore. i'm running debian. should i check some permissions? |
23:19.03 | illogic-al | eSa|: is kdesktop running? |
23:19.06 | jamiekid | so exuse my ignorance folk |
23:19.17 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: i know i can't code it by myself... too much and i don't know the code that well |
23:19.40 | eSa| | yes |
23:19.48 | eSa| | with compiz enabled |
23:19.51 | pinotree | eSa|: open a console - ps ux | grep kdesktop - does it show anything? |
23:19.56 | ct|kyle | maybe switching directories but not setting stuff |
23:19.58 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: judging by your comments i thought that's what you'd intended to do. |
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23:20.36 | illogic-al | there went jamiekid. we barely knew thee. |
23:20.43 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: i still have to figure out how and where that it reads the /DEsktop stuff |
23:21.15 | eSa| | it shows the grep command only |
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23:21.39 | illogic-al | eSa|: then run kdesktop |
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23:22.05 | illogic-al | that will start the process responsible for showing the user's desktop in KDE |
23:22.14 | eSa| | illogic-al, not really, my fault |
23:22.22 | Fercho | talking about xmms over kde: is it possible to hide the task bar button and have only de status docklet? |
23:22.38 | eSa| | it do show this: |
23:22.49 | eSa| | # ps aux | grep kdesktop |
23:22.49 | eSa| | daniele 4005 0.1 2.8 190884 29412 ? S 00:38 0:02 kdesktop [kdeinit] |
23:22.49 | eSa| | daniele 4008 0.0 0.7 107452 7236 ? S 00:38 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-daniele/klauncherCojiya.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-daniele/kdesktopaDhNDa.slave-socket |
23:22.49 | eSa| | root 7328 0.0 0.0 7224 812 pts/2 R+ 01:21 0:00 grep kdesktop |
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23:24.36 | illogic-al | eSa|: for more than 2 lines of text. please use a pastebin service |
23:25.28 | eSa| | sorry |
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23:26.16 | eSa| | permissions on .kde/ are drwx------ |
23:26.23 | eSa| | is this correct? |
23:26.32 | Gargantua | Hi folkes. |
23:26.33 | illogic-al | Fercho: by taskbar button do you mean the applet handles? |
23:26.47 | Gargantua | can anyone tell me where to get kbounce for fedora? |
23:26.57 | illogic-al | eSa|: you are the only one who needs to have viewing permissions to your directories. |
23:27.08 | Fercho | ah, I found it, I'm doing it |
23:27.13 | illogic-al | Gargantua: ask in the fedora channel |
23:27.27 | illogic-al | which would be #fedora |
23:27.28 | Gargantua | ok |
23:27.29 | Gargantua | thanks |
23:27.39 | illogic-al | you're welcome. |
23:27.40 | Gargantua | is there an offical website for it? |
23:27.49 | illogic-al | website for fedora? |
23:28.20 | Gargantua | no for kbounce. |
23:28.32 | illogic-al | eSa|: so it seems kdesktop is already running. is your problem fixed? |
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23:28.48 | illogic-al | Gargantua: don't know. may google be thy guide brother. |
23:29.38 | Gargantua | haha, ok, thanks anywho. |
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23:33.02 | illogic-al | hola fred |
23:33.13 | illogic-al | and roberto |
23:33.18 | illogic-al | and BigEddy |
23:34.22 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: have you looked for where it sets the desktop paths |
23:34.36 | illogic-al | no. |
23:34.40 | illogic-al | you? |
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23:35.37 | ct|kyle | nope |
23:35.46 | ct|kyle | tried once |
23:36.13 | ct|kyle | it has to be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config |
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23:37.57 | illogic-al | ct|kyle: kcontrol > System Administration > Paths |
23:38.25 | ct|kyle | yes i know that but it should write to a file |
23:38.37 | illogic-al | it does. |
23:39.08 | ct|kyle | illogic-al: that would be the first thing to find |
23:39.20 | illogic-al | not hard to find at all |
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23:39.40 | ct|kyle | where then? |
23:39.52 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: That's not going to get you different paths per virtual desktop, though |
23:40.07 | ct|kyle | i know |
23:40.12 | illogic-al | somewhere in .kde/config obviously. so you just need to look |
23:40.22 | ct|kyle | but the paths could potentualy be set using that |
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23:40.28 | illogic-al | I'm not going to do it for you, if that's what you're waiting for. |
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23:40.49 | Crimsonthread | be nice |
23:40.50 | BigEddy | illogic-al: hello there - sorry for the delay - was elsewhere for a while |
23:40.54 | Sho_ | Well if it's the default it's not going to be anywhere in ~/.kde, obviously |
23:41.21 | Sho_ | If you change the path to deviate from the global default, then a record of that will be made in a user-local config file |
23:41.41 | illogic-al | you can change it from the default, search for the change you made in ~/.kde/config, and find out which file changes. |
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23:42.01 | illogic-al | then search for that file, or references to it in kdebase. |
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23:42.26 | Sho_ | illogic-al: I did already give him a pointer to the relevant C++ source file earlier |
23:42.31 | illogic-al | heh. i guess me 'n Sho_ were thinking the same thing. |
23:42.45 | illogic-al | Sho_: ah. didn't realize that. |
23:42.52 | ct|kyle | ya he did |
23:43.48 | illogic-al | then why are you still asking for it? |
23:44.05 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: basically all you need to do is change the implementation of KDIconView::desktopURL() to be vd-aware |
23:44.44 | Sho_ | now look at that, it seems to be already |
23:44.58 | Sho_ | apparently you can use Desktop<VD#> directories |
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23:45.42 | Sho_ | although that might be for X screens rather than VDs, currently |
23:45.55 | Sho_ | well, trial'n'error, and if it doesn't work, poke desktopURL() a bit further |
23:47.49 | ct|kyle | ok Sho_ and illogic-al thanks i think i can get it now, hopefully |
23:48.23 | Sho_ | ct|kyle: You'll notice that KDIconView::desktopURL() references KGlobalSettings::desktopPath(), which returns the KControl setting |
23:48.50 | Sho_ | KGlobalSettings is in kdelibs, apidox are on http://api.kde.org |
23:51.42 | ct|kyle | thanks |
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23:58.09 | Gargantua | Is it possible to make Kommand transparent? |
23:58.58 | killown | I am installing kmldonkey but it ask for nucleo?? what's mean? |
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