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| 00:07.47 | DaSkreech | Hmm |
| 00:07.56 | DaSkreech | The KDE Beta Sems to be exactly as stable as the Alpha |
| 00:08.12 | thiago | we didn't do much fixing |
| 00:08.15 | thiago | we did more breaking |
| 00:08.20 | thiago | Beta 1 can't download properly |
| 00:08.51 | DaSkreech | Can't .. download properly? |
| 00:09.23 | DaSkreech | Oh you mean once you've downloaded Beta 1 and then logged into it and started downloading you will find that you can't |
| 00:09.37 | thiago | yes |
| 00:09.41 | thiago | it corrupts downloads |
| 00:09.43 | troy | DaSkreech: problem with the beta was that the libs freeze happened just days before, so people rushed to get their stuff in before the freeze, and the beta might actually be less stable than the last alpha :) |
| 00:09.46 | thiago | I fixed it last week, after the tagging |
| 00:10.05 | thiago | troy: we've done that kind of thing next to feature freezes for a long time :-) |
| 00:10.07 | DaSkreech | So they Froze broken APIs? |
| 00:10.27 | thiago | no |
| 00:10.31 | thiago | we fixed them just before freezing |
| 00:10.50 | thiago | which means the API changed, the implementation and the users didn't follow properly |
| 00:10.54 | thiago | that's why it's broken |
| 00:11.12 | troy | DaSkreech: the API's are frozen, but the actual code in the libs hasn't been... basically, you cannot change the function calls now, that's all |
| 00:11.39 | DaSkreech | ah Right :-) |
| 00:12.00 | DaSkreech | Yes I understand that. the whole idea behind deprecation |
| 00:12.16 | DaSkreech | Just wondered if the API's were broken |
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| 00:12.56 | DaSkreech | BTW |
| 00:13.00 | DaSkreech | Anyone played with Smolt? |
| 00:13.17 | zeddicus | What is smolt? |
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| 00:14.09 | DaSkreech | A HWDB to be crude |
| 00:14.39 | zeddicus | nope haven't played with that one |
| 00:16.08 | DaSkreech | When was the last time anyone looked at Knoware? |
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| 00:21.40 | DaSkreech | It would be neat (read as Damn good) to have Knowware be botha front end and backend to smolt |
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| 00:25.45 | Simkin | anyone know what "the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly" might mean? |
| 00:25.54 | Simkin | i'm getting this dialog box while trying to boot the kubuntu live cd |
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| 00:28.11 | DaSkreech | You need memory? |
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| 00:39.04 | DaSkreech | Was there a change list For beta 1? |
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| 00:55.35 | DaSkreech | Hi |
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| 01:04.12 | level1_ | hi, whats the file that contains amarok global shortcuts? |
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| 01:16.39 | level1_ | hi, my multimedia keys are all screwed up. Its like something is grabbing the keyevents, but its not consistant |
| 01:17.00 | level1_ | xev shows XF86AudioPlay & pals to be correctly configured |
| 01:17.24 | level1_ | but setting them to global shortcuts isn't working... |
| 01:18.10 | level1_ | in amorak, if I try to set XF86AudioStop to "stop playing after track" it just does nothing, but it will allow me to set Ctrl+AudioStop |
| 01:18.51 | level1_ | kmix has all the keys set up correctly, but it won't respond to mute, volume up, and volume down |
| 01:20.57 | wolsni | level1_: there's an open bug about extra keys not always working as global shortcuts |
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| 01:30.02 | Level15 | hey guys. I want to learn to code KDE apps. I know c/c++, but have NEVER coded a GUI. Any tutorials/links you'd recommend? |
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| 01:30.29 | wolsni | Level15: techbase.kde.org |
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| 01:30.57 | Level15 | do i need to know QT beforehand or can i learn it there as well? |
| 01:31.38 | wolsni | look at the tutorials there and if they don't make sense do some Qt |
| 01:31.48 | Level15 | ok, will do |
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| 01:38.54 | Level15 | if coding a KDE3 app, should use qtedesigner 3 or 4? |
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| 01:39.34 | wolsni | Level15: KDE3 uses qt3 |
| 01:39.54 | wolsni | most of the techbase stuff is KDE4 though, iirc |
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| 01:41.59 | level1_ | wolsni: can you give me more details about this bug? |
| 01:42.21 | level1_ | wolsni: the one related to multimedia keys |
| 01:42.25 | wolsni | level1_: if I could i would probably go fix it |
| 01:46.38 | level1_ | wolsni: I fix it as far as kmix is concerned (turns out there was no master channel selected |
| 01:46.46 | level1_ | but amarok is still not working |
| 01:47.10 | wolsni | well, on my system, the volume keys work and the others don't |
| 01:47.14 | level1_ | the stop button works... it stops the music |
| 01:47.22 | wolsni | all are reported by xev |
| 01:47.32 | level1_ | but I want to remap it to something else |
| 01:47.36 | level1_ | and it won't let me |
| 01:48.14 | level1_ | oh, now i got it |
| 01:48.42 | level1_ | I had to turn off the shotcut for stop, close the window and reopen, and then i could remap it |
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| 01:57.20 | srbaker | folks |
| 01:57.27 | srbaker | having some kmail issues, anyone aroudn? |
| 02:01.49 | DaSkreech | maybe |
| 02:01.51 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:13.20 | srbaker | damnit. gotta run |
| 02:13.23 | srbaker | will have ot deal with this later |
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| 02:14.45 | klees | does GDM work with KDE? (I do not have Gnome installed) |
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| 02:15.07 | wolsni | klees: i believe so |
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| 02:15.27 | klees | KDM kinda sucks |
| 02:15.34 | wolsni | i haven't personally tried it in a while, but i'm certain it does |
| 02:15.44 | wolsni | klees: how so? |
| 02:15.51 | DaSkreech | klees: Why wouldn't it? |
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| 02:16.52 | klees | in truth is not that KDM sucks is just that there are no widescreen themes out there |
| 02:17.01 | klees | i'm running 1680x1050 |
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| 02:17.31 | wolsni | the fedora flying high theme looks pretty nice on my 1440x900 widescreen |
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| 02:20.14 | DaSkreech | Whoot! |
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| 02:20.20 | DaSkreech | Smolt IS Knoware :) |
| 02:20.27 | DaSkreech | Just ... no pretty interface :( |
| 02:20.31 | DaSkreech | and not as automated |
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| 02:20.55 | DaSkreech | Which means that Knoware can be refactored into a smolt frontend :) |
| 02:21.00 | DaSkreech | and dominate!! |
| 02:21.04 | DaSkreech | ...... |
| 02:21.09 | DaSkreech | profit!!! |
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| 02:29.00 | n3kl | Hi. Anyone know how to connect amarok to mpd? |
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| 02:34.04 | level1 | is there a way to force kicker to save its configuration? it keeps going back to what it was before |
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| 02:39.50 | FreshPrince | gn @ all |
| 02:40.27 | DaSkreech | Night |
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| 02:51.12 | deitarion | Does ~/.Xmodmap get applied by default in KDE or do I have to add an `xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap` scriptlet to ~/.kde/Autorun or ~/.kde/env? |
| 02:51.41 | DaSkreech | kdeinit I thnk |
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| 02:53.06 | deitarion | I should point out that I log in via KDM. |
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| 03:16.02 | kramed_ | how can I restart the kde panel, I seem to have lost it |
| 03:16.13 | kramed_ | and by lost, not hidden it, but it is dead |
| 03:16.53 | zeddicus | If you log out and back in does it still not appear? |
| 03:17.19 | kramed_ | I would prefer not to have to log out. Is there no process I can just start up? |
| 03:17.38 | troy | ALT-F2->"kicker" |
| 03:18.05 | kramed_ | thanks |
| 03:19.48 | kramed_ | although for some reason the tray disappears if I move to another desktop but at least it will manage until tomorrow |
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| 03:51.43 | AmyRose | so KDE 4 is going to use dbus, huh? |
| 03:51.50 | AmyRose | I just got used to dcop :( |
| 03:52.06 | chealer | AmyRose: yes |
| 03:52.28 | AmyRose | Will there be a GUI where I can find out what spells I can cast with dbus-send? |
| 03:52.35 | AmyRose | that's what I like about dcop currently |
| 03:53.38 | thiago | qdbusviewer |
| 03:53.42 | AmyRose | Goody! |
| 03:53.44 | thiago | you can also run qdbus |
| 03:53.47 | KDEfanboy | on dual montiors twinview..whenever moving the mouse between monitors (activate follows mouse), the kicker bar will raise itself above any fullscreen apps on the other monitor...unless it's set to on-top.. anyone know any hacks to get kicker to stop that? |
| 03:53.47 | AmyRose | thank you |
| 03:55.03 | thiago | kicker is always on top of full-screen if anything is also shown |
| 03:55.08 | DaSkreech | Kicker? |
| 03:55.23 | DaSkreech | ah right |
| 03:55.24 | thiago | but I think there was something about a bug being fixed there in KDE 3.5.4 or 3.5.5.. |
| 03:55.28 | thiago | what version are you using? |
| 03:57.26 | KDEfanboy | using 3.5.6 just found that it's not from the mouse movement but the activating of the other app or desktop on the other monitor |
| 03:57.53 | KDEfanboy | what do you mean on if anything else is also shown? |
| 03:58.32 | thiago | if the fullscreen app is not on top -- if a non-fullscreen application is shown, then kicker is also shown |
| 03:59.37 | KDEfanboy | ahh yep exactly that |
| 04:00.22 | KDEfanboy | that's what i want to change here ..wonder if it can be fixed by config |
| 04:01.08 | thiago | no |
| 04:01.11 | thiago | you'll have to change code |
| 04:01.36 | thiago | don't ask me where |
| 04:01.37 | KDEfanboy | gah.. thx |
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| 04:51.44 | myrkraverk | hi all, I have just patched the qt analog clock example to have a nice second hand too |
| 04:51.55 | myrkraverk | so, is there a place to publish such patches? |
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| 04:59.19 | DaSkreech | SVN ? |
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| 05:22.49 | DoctorPepper | hi guys |
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| 05:23.49 | solar_sea | I have a fresh install of debian etch with kde 3.5 and kdm. But when I try to log on from kdm or starting X with startx KDE gets to 'initialinz system services', the second stage if I can call it this way and stops loading. what can I do about it ? |
| 05:25.43 | nikosapi_ | I have two different computers each running kontact (kmail, akregator, knotes and korganizer) and I would like to know if there is a way to keep them in sync? |
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| 05:34.09 | solar_sea | ah nevermind, I've figured what's wrong, the lack of loopback interface :) |
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| 05:35.20 | GarulfoUnix | hello all :) |
| 05:35.54 | GarulfoUnix | i use Konqueror like web navigator but i don't have search toolbar in Konqueror. Someone know how add this ? |
| 05:37.44 | oGanso | u mean the google toolbar GarulfoUnix? |
| 05:38.00 | GarulfoUnix | yes :) |
| 05:39.30 | oGanso | well, i my distro (gentoo), i believe it's on the konq-plugins |
| 05:39.31 | DoctorPepper | GarulfoUnix> normally it installed by defaukt |
| 05:40.01 | chealer | GarulfoUnix: use Configure Toolbars... |
| 05:40.33 | oGanso | chealer: don't u mean "configure extensions? |
| 05:40.38 | GarulfoUnix | oGanso, i use gentoo too. |
| 05:40.59 | GarulfoUnix | i looked in menus but nothing :-/ |
| 05:41.44 | oGanso | GarulfoUnix: so u've looked at the extensions? |
| 05:42.11 | GarulfoUnix | i'm installing konq-plugins oGanso :) . |
| 05:42.14 | oGanso | :D |
| 05:42.38 | chealer | oGanso: no, but you may be right that he's just missing konq-plugins. and configure extensions would be another place to look otherwise. |
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| 05:43.13 | oGanso | chealer: i see your point too :) |
| 05:46.17 | DaSkreech | nikosapi_: opensync ? |
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| 05:48.24 | nikosapi_ | DaSkreech: ok, I'll look into it. thanks btw |
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| 05:50.37 | DoctorPepper | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.53 | DaSkreech | DoctorPepper: cause it can't |
| 05:51.02 | DaSkreech | DoctorPepper: hope you are happy :) |
| 05:52.34 | DoctorPepper | not really but thanks |
| 05:54.40 | DaSkreech | DoctorPepper: Far as I know they forked from compiz which forked from metacity which has no configuration for thigns like that |
| 05:54.49 | GarulfoUnix | oGanso, thank you very much :) . i've the google toolbar right now . |
| 05:54.55 | DaSkreech | DoctorPepper: someone is probably working on a plugin to do that as we speak |
| 05:55.50 | oGanso | :D |
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| 05:56.05 | oGanso | GarulfoUnix: np |
| 05:56.24 | oGanso | u also got alot of other neet things :D |
| 05:56.26 | oGanso | *neat |
| 05:56.57 | lateral | Anyone here know anything about GPM? I has a question. |
| 05:57.18 | DaSkreech | lateral: You know it would be faster just to ask the question right? |
| 05:57.38 | lateral | Of course I know. |
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| 05:58.08 | lateral | It broke when I turned on my framebuffer. |
| 05:58.10 | lateral | er... |
| 05:58.20 | lateral | more accurately, it was working fine until-- |
| 05:58.32 | lateral | yeah, it broke when I finally got my framebuffer console to work. |
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| 05:59.46 | ikon | whats a good alternative to knetworkmanager? |
| 06:00.34 | lateral | of course, this room is for KDE discussion, isn't it. v_v |
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| 06:09.58 | DaSkreech | lateral: yup |
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| 06:50.14 | mjponce | tablet pc + linux ... which brand is better ? |
| 06:50.41 | mjponce | i want to buy a tablet pc |
| 06:51.01 | mjponce | but i don't know what brand is better for .. |
| 06:51.15 | mjponce | some idea ? |
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| 07:11.03 | qupada | mjponce: the only useful piece of advice i can give is make sure you buy one with a wacom digitiser, not whatever the other crap is |
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| 07:11.56 | qupada | mjponce: the wacom drivers are orders of magnitude better than everything else on offer and so is the technology (only brand with wireless pens) |
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| 07:28.18 | killown|away | Please reinstall aRts in the same prefix as KDE, different prefixes are not supported right now." |
| 07:28.23 | killown|away | ? |
| 07:28.31 | killown|away | somebody can help me? |
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| 08:19.35 | ss | Hi folks I am using kubuntu 7.04 want to configure socks proxy settings in KDE but not know where to provide these settings i.e. 172.16.18.1:1080 It was simple in Windows and gnome but KDE is irritating me pllz help |
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| 08:48.45 | stalkerg | hello all need small help :) |
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| 08:49.10 | stalkerg | need reset time config in ~/.kde |
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| 08:49.56 | stalkerg | where clock config? |
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| 09:07.39 | bram85 | stalkerg: right click the clock and you'll see some configuration options |
| 09:07.59 | bram85 | stalkerg: i don't know exactly what you're looking for, though |
| 09:08.53 | stalkerg | bram85: if i push configure i enter root password and in new window i see normal time. |
| 09:09.16 | bram85 | stalkerg: but your kicker shows a shifted time? |
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| 09:11.40 | stalkerg | bram85: yes... on kicker bad time. |
| 09:11.56 | stalkerg | bram85: command date show good time. |
| 09:12.16 | pag | stalkerg, right click on clock -> Show Timezone -> local timezone ? |
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| 09:13.37 | stemcel | how does one find out what hard drive is what in /dev ? |
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| 09:17.21 | oGanso | stemcel: normally, sda is for the fisrt, sdb for the 2nd.. |
| 09:17.32 | stemcel | oGanso: thanks |
| 09:17.49 | oGanso | :) u found out that already? |
| 09:18.42 | stemcel | I have three hard drives |
| 09:19.07 | stemcel | I know them by their sizes: 120, 400, 500 |
| 09:19.18 | stemcel | I don't know how to find out which is which in linux |
| 09:19.19 | oGanso | eheh, tera |
| 09:19.29 | stemcel | very nearly |
| 09:19.47 | stemcel | due to marketing inflation, it's only .948 TB |
| 09:19.58 | oGanso | :) |
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| 09:21.04 | stemcel | anyone here know much about dealing with hard drives in linux? |
| 09:21.07 | pag | stemcel, try running fdisk -l (it might require root priveledges) it'll list all partitions, but I'd guess you will be able to tell which HD is which |
| 09:21.32 | stemcel | oh damn! I forgot to tell Sabayon *not* to write its GRUB on the 1st HD MBR |
| 09:21.36 | stemcel | damnit! |
| 09:21.43 | stemcel | oh well |
| 09:21.50 | stemcel | fixing that will be a chore for tomorrow |
| 09:22.04 | stemcel | pag: I have a bit of a problem with that :) |
| 09:22.08 | stemcel | perhaps I can show you |
| 09:22.39 | stemcel | /dev/sda1 * 2 60801 488376000 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) |
| 09:22.39 | stemcel | /dev/sda5 2 60801 488375968+ 7 HPFS/NTFS |
| 09:22.51 | stemcel | I believe now that sda is the one I'm looking for |
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| 09:23.10 | stemcel | it seems to think that there are two partitions occupying the same space? |
| 09:23.16 | stemcel | I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean |
| 09:23.43 | pag | stemcel, sda1 is extended paritition... kind of one, that contains others in itself |
| 09:24.06 | stemcel | it should just be one monolithic parition covering the whole disk |
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| 09:24.13 | stemcel | that's hwo it shows up in windows anyway |
| 09:24.16 | stemcel | how* |
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| 09:24.27 | stemcel | if I were to try mounting it, which one would I pick? |
| 09:24.33 | stemcel | sda1, or sda5? |
| 09:24.43 | pag | sda5 |
| 09:25.24 | stemcel | why is that, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 09:25.47 | stemcel | because of the + ? |
| 09:26.20 | oGanso | because sda1 might be the extended partion |
| 09:26.28 | oGanso | the sda5 in sda1 |
| 09:26.32 | oGanso | right pag? |
| 09:26.37 | pag | stemcel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Extended contains a good piece of info about partitioning |
| 09:26.52 | pag | oGanso, exactly |
| 09:27.20 | stemcel | okay, I'm going to give the following command line a shot: |
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| 09:27.32 | stemcel | mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/sda5 /media/htb |
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| 09:27.42 | stemcel | Do you guys see any problems with that? |
| 09:27.52 | stemcel | I don't want to screw anything up |
| 09:28.11 | stemcel | "/media/htb" exists, and is empty |
| 09:32.00 | stemcel | it says that it's busy |
| 09:32.12 | stemcel | anway, I'll try more of this tomorrow |
| 09:32.18 | stemcel | I'm far overdue for bed as it is |
| 09:32.21 | stemcel | night everyone! |
| 09:32.31 | oGanso | bb |
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| 09:39.05 | jose1711 | hello, any info on downtime of websvn.kde.org? |
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| 10:06.28 | zenum | Hi, i'm having a bit of a play around with kde4 beta1... can anyone tell me where I can find some of the keyboard or mouse gestures for the new composite features? |
| 10:06.51 | zenum | I can see where I can enable them... but I can't figure out how to use some of them... like the gridbox thing... |
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| 10:14.05 | Mirrakor | zenum: guess you'll have to look it up in the composite documentation |
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| 10:14.56 | zenum | Mirrakor: do you know where I can find that documentation? |
| 10:15.20 | Mirrakor | man composite maybe, I dunno sorry :/ |
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| 10:15.47 | Mirrakor | btw. anyone here who want's to play a round of londonlaw? |
| 10:15.53 | zenum | hehe, nah its not there... It's an integrated part of kde4... oh well... i guess it's beta1 for a reason :p |
| 10:16.06 | PhilRod | zenum: I *think* I heard someone say that khotkeys isn't working in trunk, which means you can't use the gestures in the beta. I could be wrong though |
| 10:16.13 | zenum | its looking really good though :) I'll be happy the day I no longer have to use compiz/beryl |
| 10:16.16 | pinotree | zenum: kdebase/workspace/kwin/COMPOSITE_HOWTO |
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| 10:19.05 | zenum | pinotree: hrmmm doesn't seem to be there... I installed it from the ubuntu repositories so it might be different... no matter, thanks anyway :) |
| 10:19.15 | pinotree | zenum: i'm referring to the souces |
| 10:19.44 | zenum | ahhh... well i don't think i have the sources so that could be why |
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| 10:21.08 | zenum | well thanks anyway, i might go back to kde3... the liquid demo is really quite hypnotic :p cya |
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| 12:30.22 | C-{pR0F | does any body knows if KTorrent are compatible with Demonoid share ratio ? |
| 12:31.11 | tso | hmm, ktorrent. i have had some issues trying to compile it... |
| 12:32.41 | C-{pR0F | NO , i have it working great ,,, but i knewly subscriped with demonoid , and they have specific torrent clients comptatible with their share ratio , and i wanted to know if KTorrent is |
| 12:33.25 | tso | do not have a clue |
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| 12:34.24 | ccc | C-{pR0F: you might wanna check the ktorrent forum for clues |
| 12:35.26 | C-{pR0F | ccc: what;s the forum site? |
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| 12:35.58 | ccc | C-{pR0F: http://ktorrent.org/forum |
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| 12:39.39 | ccc | C-{pR0F: afaik, most tracker issues have been solved since 2.1 so i think you'll be fine |
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| 12:40.27 | C-{pR0F | ccc: i have 3.5 |
| 12:40.27 | C-{pR0F | so i think it is ok , right? |
| 12:40.27 | ccc | i meant ktorrent 2.1 |
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| 12:40.58 | C-{pR0F | yes |
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| 12:51.04 | brettw__ | On my Dell XPS I'm trying to set a global shortcut for the front panel mute/vol controls. I can see key codes in xev for these buttons but when I click on the field for primary shortcut it cant see the keypress. |
| 12:51.23 | brettw__ | This used to work on OPenSUSE 10.2 but now on Fedora 7 it has stopped. |
| 12:51.27 | brettw__ | Any ideas? |
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| 12:52.10 | faik | hi all |
| 12:52.41 | faik | can anyone advice me icq client for fedora 7 |
| 12:52.42 | faik | ? |
| 12:52.55 | brettw__ | Hi faik. |
| 12:52.58 | runlevelten | kopete... |
| 12:52.58 | PhilRod | kopete |
| 12:53.10 | faik | something else ? |
| 12:53.13 | faik | i used it |
| 12:53.18 | faik | didnot like it |
| 12:53.38 | PhilRod | brettw__: see the user guide on docs.kde.org. There's a section on "multimedia key shortcuts" |
| 12:53.43 | faik | i have troubles with russian letters in kopete |
| 12:53.49 | brettw__ | Will do. |
| 12:54.06 | PhilRod | faik: I don't know any other kde IM clients, but you may be able to find some on kde-apps.org |
| 12:54.14 | faik | tnx |
| 12:54.33 | faik | and |
| 12:54.49 | faik | how can i make kernel to support ntfs ? |
| 12:54.56 | PhilRod | ask in #fedora |
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| 12:59.50 | Richard_In_Swede | What is wrong with Software Manager - Exception: Summary: TBe1153693 config.py:664:_getsysver:TypeError: rpmdb open failed |
| 13:00.53 | Richard_In_Swede | Is KDE not configured for Update Manager ? |
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| 13:04.00 | PhilRod | Richard_In_Swede: I think you need to ask in #yourdistro. |
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| 13:04.38 | Richard_In_Swede | OK - thanks |
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| 13:29.02 | Richard_In_Swede | Component: Software Manager |
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| 13:29.07 | Richard_In_Swede | Summary: TBe1153693 config.py:664:_getsysver:TypeError: rpmdb open failed |
| 13:29.20 | Richard_In_Swede | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 13:29.34 | Richard_In_Swede | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:29.43 | Richard_In_Swede | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:29.57 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/sbin/pirut", line 421, in main |
| 13:30.07 | Richard_In_Swede | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.19 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/sbin/pirut", line 61, in __init__ |
| 13:30.33 | Richard_In_Swede | GraphicalYumBase.__init__(self, False, config) |
| 13:30.47 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pirut/__init__.py", line 120, in __init__ |
| 13:31.00 | Richard_In_Swede | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:31.17 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 109, in doConfigSetup |
| 13:31.39 | Richard_In_Swede | errorlevel=errorlevel) |
| 13:31.43 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 154, in _getConfig |
| 13:31.54 | Richard_In_Swede | self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf) |
| 13:32.05 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py", line 601, in readMainConfig |
| 13:32.17 | Richard_In_Swede | yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, startupconf.distroverpkg) |
| 13:32.33 | Richard_In_Swede | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py", line 664, in _getsysver |
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| 13:32.44 | Richard_In_Swede | idx = ts.dbMatch('provides', distroverpkg) |
| 13:32.58 | Richard_In_Swede | TypeError: rpmdb open failed |
| 13:33.10 | Richard_In_Swede | Local variables in innermost frame: |
| 13:33.23 | Richard_In_Swede | installroot: / |
| 13:33.35 | Richard_In_Swede | ts: <rpmUtils.transaction.TransactionWrapper instance at 0x9d6cecc> |
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| 13:33.47 | Richard_In_Swede | distroverpkg: redhat-release |
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| 13:37.23 | Richard_In_Swede | Many people says that Software Manager doesn't run under KDE. If so, It wont run under Gnome as well due to internal error in Yum. But what is wrong with this picture ? |
| 13:37.47 | oGanso | o0 |
| 13:37.55 | oGanso | http://rafb.net/paste |
| 13:37.57 | Dr_willis | Other then a channel flood that got most of the channel to put you on ignore? :) |
| 13:38.01 | Richard_In_Swede | 0o |
| 13:38.45 | Desintegr | Richard_In_Swede: it's not a KDE problem, ask in your distro channel |
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| 14:00.05 | MinceR | is the window size saved to/restored from konqueror profiles? |
| 14:00.59 | pag | MinceR, I think so.. |
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| 14:01.33 | pag | MinceR, when you save profile there's option "save window size" |
| 14:02.48 | MinceR | thx |
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| 14:18.06 | maki | why i dont have option to sync the clock with remote server in klock kcontrol module? |
| 14:18.48 | stdin | you should, there is a checkbox to do that |
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| 14:20.29 | maki | stdin where? |
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| 14:22.08 | onur_ | can i remove bars from the new desktop ? |
| 14:22.12 | stdin | maki: top left http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/824/image7ne5.png |
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| 14:22.36 | onur_ | for getting 1280x1024 resulotion ? |
| 14:22.43 | maki | http://www.srkaj.com/photo/3/14148слика1.jpg |
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| 14:23.14 | maki | here is what i have |
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| 14:24.16 | maki | i dont know why i dont have that, i'm using archlinux |
| 14:24.17 | stdin | maki: I have the same, except with a checkbox... |
| 14:24.44 | onur_ | anyone hear me ? |
| 14:24.49 | stdin | maki: tried asking in #archlinux ? |
| 14:25.26 | Sho_ | maki: You need to enter "Administrator Mode" |
| 14:25.44 | Sho_ | and ntp-client needs to be installed, probably |
| 14:26.00 | maki | ok |
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| 14:29.27 | pinotree | onur_: "new" desktop? |
| 14:29.41 | onur_ | another desktop number |
| 14:29.56 | onur_ | like desktop 1 , desktop 2 , desktop 3 |
| 14:30.08 | pinotree | so, you don't want the panels on some desktops? |
| 14:30.43 | onur_ | yep |
| 14:30.56 | pinotree | it's not possible |
| 14:31.03 | onur_ | :) |
| 14:31.06 | onur_ | ok |
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| 14:38.22 | exarkun | What provides the ThumbCreator KServiceType? |
| 14:38.42 | pinotree | exarkun: what's the problem? |
| 14:38.58 | exarkun | kflickr won't show me thumbnails |
| 14:39.17 | exarkun | Every time I add a photo it says "kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found" |
| 14:39.17 | pinotree | which file format? |
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| 14:39.25 | exarkun | jpg |
| 14:39.33 | pinotree | are you running kde? |
| 14:39.38 | exarkun | not really |
| 14:39.59 | pinotree | ok, you are running gnome with just kdelibs installed? |
| 14:40.17 | pinotree | mom |
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| 14:42.20 | pinotree | exarkun: you need the kioslaves of kdebase |
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| 14:45.22 | exarkun | Hm, now it doesn't write out that message anymore, but it also still doesn't thumbnail |
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| 14:46.25 | pinotree | exarkun: run kbuildsycoca |
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| 14:46.49 | exarkun | kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! |
| 14:46.57 | pinotree | normal |
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| 14:47.58 | exarkun | okay, cool. |
| 14:48.05 | exarkun | it thumbnails /something/ now |
| 14:48.16 | exarkun | a png worked, but this jpg still isn't getting anything |
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| 14:51.29 | maki | wery stupid thing, the guys at archlinux didnt put ntp as dependancy of kde :) |
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| 15:06.54 | Blissex | maki: but it is not a dependency. |
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| 15:07.16 | Blissex | maki: it is may be a ''mind''/''functional'' dependency, but not a package dependency. |
| 15:07.51 | exarkun | hmm, some of them get thumbnailed |
| 15:07.57 | exarkun | but not very many |
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| 15:08.11 | exarkun | seems strange, they're all from the same camera |
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| 15:55.51 | simon23 | hi- how can i reload all the konqueror tabs i opened at once? (i dont want to click through 20 tabs and hit the reload button every single time,,) |
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| 15:56.12 | simon23 | or should this be impossible?? |
| 15:56.29 | pag | simon23, right click on tab bar -> other tabs -> reload all tabs |
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| 15:57.14 | simon23 | pag: thanks a lot ! i really didnt find this... |
| 15:57.22 | pag | np :) |
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| 16:02.46 | simon23 | although i might switch to mozilla or firefox..... they're just much faster ... with all those javascript stuff that slows the konqueror down. |
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| 16:03.25 | simon23 | the only thing that makes me use the konqueror is the CTRL key which activates the shortkey function. |
| 16:03.40 | simon23 | (besides the good integration into kde) |
| 16:03.42 | pinotree | really? many people hate it and disable it :) |
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| 16:04.15 | simon23 | i just like keeping my hands on my keyboard and still use the whole comp. |
| 16:04.20 | wmind | hello is there some easy way to browse and select a bunch of pictures to move them to another folder? |
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| 16:04.26 | simon23 | its just seems faster to me. |
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| 16:04.38 | wmind | all I want is to be able to see them and mark them as I browse |
| 16:04.49 | wmind | and then say, move all flaged files here |
| 16:04.51 | simon23 | wmind: tried kuickshow? |
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| 16:05.24 | wmind | simon23: gwenview... how would I do that with quickshow... |
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| 16:06.40 | simon23 | wmind: i used kuickshow to browse pictures... i thought it is possible to use a context menu too to copy them to another location. just give it a try... |
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| 16:07.03 | simon23 | :-) |
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| 16:08.01 | PhilRod | pinotree: have you ever use the accesskeys for looking through bugs on b.k.o? It's really good for that |
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| 16:08.31 | pinotree | PhilRod: whenopening the kmail or konqueror bug list, my konqueror cries ;( |
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| 16:10.09 | PhilRod | pinotree: yeah, but for shorter lists it's good |
| 16:10.14 | pinotree | yep |
| 16:10.26 | gzw | hello |
| 16:10.41 | PhilRod | (actually, the problem with long lists is bugzilla, not konq - it limits the length of the list for which it'll show "next" links |
| 16:10.50 | PhilRod | hi Air, formerly known as gzw |
| 16:11.01 | Air | anyone here? |
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| 16:12.17 | Air | welcome to vist my websit.. www.air5.cn |
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| 16:13.06 | pinotree | Air: no spam please |
| 16:13.12 | Air | i had written a small chat tool. |
| 16:13.28 | Air | you can get it in my web sit, |
| 16:13.30 | Air | hehe |
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| 16:23.19 | hays | what should I use if I have kde 3.5.6 to read .chm files |
| 16:24.47 | Desintegr | http://www.kchmviewer.net/ |
| 16:25.02 | hays | is that better/more mature than kread? |
| 16:25.10 | Desintegr | dubbo |
| 16:25.12 | Desintegr | dunno* |
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| 17:10.14 | bartoszka | guys, is it possible to change a specific icos size? like trash |
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| 17:10.53 | pinotree | on the desktop? no |
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| 17:16.48 | hellhound | does anyone know a program to rip flash streams? |
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| 17:22.05 | PhilRod | hellhound: it's not a KDE app, but I just use "mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile foo" to rip streams. Maybe one of the kde frontends (kmplayer, kplayer, kaffeine(?)) provides a GUI on that functionality |
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| 17:24.45 | GionnyBoss | I want to open a page in firefox with an icon on my panel. I just set up /usr/bin/firefox as executable and the page that I want to open as parameter, but it doesn't work if firefox is already open. Should I specify a different parameter? And which one, please? |
| 17:25.19 | pinotree | GionnyBoss: that's a firefox question, not a kde one |
| 17:26.02 | GionnyBoss | pinotree, ok sorry, I go on the appropriate channel now |
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| 17:38.08 | maki | check out this kde pimp http://www.srkaj.com/photo/3/91237слика3.png |
| 17:38.38 | pinotree | aaaaaaaaaah it hurt my eyes, dude! |
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| 17:45.52 | Egyptian[Home] | hi |
| 17:45.55 | Egyptian[Home] | could someone point me to the kickoff's homepage? |
| 17:46.19 | Desintegr | http://www.kickoff.com/ :) |
| 17:46.34 | pinotree | http://en.opensuse.org/Kickoff |
| 17:46.43 | Desintegr | :) |
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| 17:50.54 | Sho_ | maki: Very ... red :) |
| 17:51.42 | maki | Sho_ i just can't stay to one look & feel |
| 17:52.01 | maki | any sugestions how should i make my kde? |
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| 17:52.17 | Sho_ | maki: Well however you like it ... .) |
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| 17:52.34 | maki | yes i know |
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| 17:52.37 | hellhound | does anyone know of a program to record yahoo webcam in kopete... i have Videodownload and it works great for flash... but not for webcam buddies |
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| 17:53.19 | maki | but i like to see other ideas |
| 17:53.40 | Sho_ | maki: My visual settings are http://www.eikehein.com/konq-domino.png |
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| 17:56.54 | Desintegr | Sho_: CRT or LCD ? |
| 17:57.03 | Egyptian[Home] | pinotree: i was hoping for the kde project page |
| 17:57.10 | Egyptian[Home] | pinotree: with tarballs |
| 17:57.27 | pinotree | Egyptian[Home]: why? it's not something kde's, it's an opensuse project |
| 17:57.50 | Sho_ | Desintegr: Both |
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| 17:57.59 | Egyptian[Home] | pinotree: i thought it was opensuse+kde from my readings today |
| 17:58.25 | Sho_ | Egyptian[Home]: There are no tarballs, afaik -- but it's in KDE's SVN repository |
| 17:58.29 | pinotree | it's an opensuse project, develop in our subversion repository, but always opensuse's |
| 17:58.38 | pinotree | *developed |
| 17:59.00 | Egyptian[Home] | so how do i get the tarball? |
| 17:59.08 | pinotree | ask to opensuse |
| 17:59.14 | Egyptian[Home] | pinotree, Sho_ or .. get it out from svn? |
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| 18:00.08 | Sho_ | Egyptian[Home]: That might be hard too because the SVN version is a branch of the entire kdebase module, so you'd have to spin your own patch to rebase against 3.5.7 probably |
| 18:00.22 | Sho_ | Egyptian[Home]: It's probably better to look into whether your distro has done the job for you |
| 18:00.24 | Egyptian[Home] | ack! |
| 18:00.32 | Sho_ | e.g. Gentoo has it in an overlay |
| 18:00.34 | Egyptian[Home] | Sho_: nope dont think so |
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| 18:00.40 | Egyptian[Home] | i m using fedora7 |
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| 18:02.29 | animesh | hey |
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| 18:02.37 | animesh | anybody used openvpn in fedora 7 |
| 18:02.42 | animesh | kinda never worked.... |
| 18:02.51 | Egyptian[Home] | animesh: vpnc |
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| 18:03.24 | animesh | vpn connection manager... |
| 18:03.25 | Sho_ | animesh: Try asking in #fedora ... OpenVPN is not a KDE app iirc |
| 18:03.30 | animesh | oh ok |
| 18:03.34 | animesh | sorry |
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| 18:08.41 | workaphobia | Has anyone tried using the opensuse kde4 beta livecd? I'm getting out-of-memory errors with it on boot. |
| 18:09.36 | Anarky | how much ram do you get ? |
| 18:10.01 | workaphobia | it detects 256, I have 512. It says it requires 80. |
| 18:10.17 | workaphobia | it kernel panics due to OOM, immediately after it fails to mount swap on my harddrive |
| 18:10.35 | workaphobia | occurs regardless of whether or not I select the "safe" option for booting. |
| 18:11.11 | Anarky | I'm not surprised too much 256MB isn't enough |
| 18:11.24 | Anarky | try asking on #kde4-devel perhaps |
| 18:11.47 | Desintegr | it's not a KDE problem |
| 18:12.03 | workaphobia | nah, it's an issue with the livecd, not kde4 itself... I'm not sure who's responsible for maintaining it though, opensuse or someone in the kde team |
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| 18:12.15 | workaphobia | I believe I downloaded it off kde's site |
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| 18:13.10 | pinotree | workaphobia: it's opensuse's |
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| 18:14.11 | warriorness | Does kwrite/kate have a syntax highlighting file for xorg.conf ? |
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| 18:16.00 | Desintegr | warriorness: yeah |
| 18:16.46 | warriorness | What do I need to do to get it to work, then? because I open xorg.conf and it treats it like a normal text file |
| 18:17.17 | Desintegr | I do nothing :) |
| 18:17.41 | Desintegr | Tool/Syntax/configuration/x.org configuration |
| 18:19.18 | warriorness | hmm, all I have is: desktop apache cisco ini and wine |
| 18:19.50 | warriorness | and fstab. |
| 18:20.08 | Desintegr | try to update your syntax files |
| 18:20.27 | warriorness | how would I do that? |
| 18:20.30 | Desintegr | in Configuration / Syntax |
| 18:20.33 | Desintegr | Download button |
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| 18:21.56 | warriorness | ah, there it is |
| 18:22.51 | warriorness | Desintegr: Thanks |
| 18:22.55 | Desintegr | :) |
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| 18:23.28 | bodaddy | i need some help |
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| 18:23.48 | wolsni | bodaddy: no one can help you until you state your problem |
| 18:24.49 | bodaddy | i cant figure out how to install widgets on fedora core 7 |
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| 18:25.14 | wolsni | bodaddy: using superkaramba? |
| 18:25.21 | bodaddy | yep |
| 18:25.44 | wolsni | and the "get new themes" button in superkaramba isn't working for you? |
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| 18:25.54 | bodaddy | is it a bug |
| 18:25.57 | bodaddy | ? |
| 18:26.07 | wolsni | not that i know of |
| 18:26.18 | wolsni | are you getting an error message or what? |
| 18:27.06 | bodaddy | no it just does nothing and my desktop goes back to the splash screen and i have to log back in |
| 18:27.50 | wolsni | sounds like superkaramba is crashing your X server |
| 18:28.17 | wolsni | did it work previously? |
| 18:28.22 | bodaddy | no |
| 18:28.36 | bodaddy | been doing that since the instasll |
| 18:28.42 | wolsni | have you searched the Fedora and KDE bug trackers? |
| 18:28.56 | bodaddy | havent done that yet |
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| 18:29.09 | bodaddy | i was just wondering if there was somthing else i could use |
| 18:29.51 | wolsni | well, opera, superkaramba, and gdesklets are the only desktop widget systems for linux i know of |
| 18:30.20 | wolsni | but i don't have any idea whether that's an exhaustive list |
| 18:30.44 | bodaddy | ok well thank you and i will checkto see if there is a bug |
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| 19:00.08 | jhutchins | Anybody aware of an existing feature request to recognize .iso files as mountable, and make mounting them via loopback a default option in konq? |
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| 19:03.35 | freqmod | (How) Is it possible to disable the accessebillity shortcuts that pops up over links in konqueror (randomly), and when you press ctrl? |
| 19:03.50 | stdin | jhutchins: no, but I have something that can do that for you |
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| 19:04.03 | jhutchins | kiso, fuseiso? |
| 19:04.22 | stdin | jhutchins: no, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955 |
| 19:04.45 | stdin | jhutchins: makes a service menu too, and it's an "I made this" :) |
| 19:05.43 | darkstego | any recommendations for a kde based distro? |
| 19:05.46 | jhutchins | stdin: Cool. That should be incorporated. |
| 19:05.53 | jhutchins | darkstego: Mandriva |
| 19:06.11 | jhutchins | stdin: Two people have just asked about it in #kubuntu. |
| 19:06.27 | darkstego | sorry, I meant a kde 4.0 live CD |
| 19:06.47 | stdin | jhutchins: I would have mentioned it in there, but I was afk. I actually put it up on kde-apps because someone asked |
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| 19:07.44 | jhutchins | stdin: Given the way most systems handle mountable items these days, iso's should be handled like the rest. |
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| 19:08.52 | stdin | jhutchins: yeah, I actually made it because I got annoyed with having to type "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop ......" |
| 19:09.41 | jhutchins | I think it should be a standard part of the "Actions" menu. |
| 19:10.10 | stdin | well, install that and it will be :p |
| 19:11.51 | jhutchins | stdin: I think I'll file a feature request for it. |
| 19:12.23 | jhutchins | stdin: Not that i think I'd use it that much - I mount a handful of iso files via fstab and share them over samba, but that's about it. |
| 19:12.30 | jhutchins | stdin: It just makes sense. |
| 19:12.59 | Scott5114 | Where do you go to file feature requests? |
| 19:13.04 | Scott5114 | Bugzilla? |
| 19:13.19 | stdin | jhutchins: yeah, it's not exactly a difficult thing to implement either. especially if you strip out some of the features and just make a service menu |
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| 19:18.34 | jhutchins | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148546 |
| 19:18.51 | jhutchins | Scott5114: bugs.kde.org |
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| 19:21.28 | vizard | konq shows netscape plugins but does not respond to flash enabled web pages |
| 19:21.34 | sophie29 | Hello, good morning. One question (out of topic ok?). If I OC my CPU 266 x 10, does my ram also needs to be at the same speed 266 mhz? Because I have a ddr 3200 I think this one runs 200 mhz by default. But Im not sure. Can someone help me please. |
| 19:22.54 | pinotree | jhutchins: your wish makes no sense |
| 19:23.10 | jhutchins | pinotree: How can I make it clearer? |
| 19:23.21 | pinotree | jhutchins: if you really want it, ask your distribution to package it, that's all |
| 19:23.26 | darkstego | sophie29: you can use that memory, only it will not be ideal |
| 19:23.47 | pinotree | if we should start incorporating all the action menus that can found around, that would be an overkill |
| 19:23.56 | jhutchins | pinotree: why not? There have been three requsts for that feature in #kubuntu today. |
| 19:24.08 | pinotree | then ask kubuntu to package it! |
| 19:24.13 | jhutchins | pinotree: It's just obvious, an iso file should be mountable within the filebrowser. |
| 19:24.31 | jhutchins | pinotree: What is the function of feature requests? |
| 19:24.58 | pinotree | i don't understand - you have the service menus that does the work, and works |
| 19:25.19 | pinotree | you don't have it available for your distro? ask them to package it, what's the problem? |
| 19:25.24 | jhutchins | pinotree: Sorry, what service menus? Maybe we've missted something? |
| 19:25.45 | pinotree | the .desktop file with the action for the konqueror popup menu |
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| 19:26.52 | pinotree | ... |
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| 19:28.01 | Blueraid | hi, I seach a global autostartdictonary in kde 3.5, I put the script in /usr/kde/3.5/env, but it dosn't start |
| 19:28.29 | pinotree | because it's not the right place |
| 19:28.35 | pinotree | is that an executable? |
| 19:28.44 | pinotree | (an application, that is) |
| 19:28.45 | Sho_ | Blueraid: The autostart directory is ~/.kde/Autostart ... env/ is for shell scripts to be sourced |
| 19:28.46 | Blueraid | its a script |
| 19:28.53 | Sho_ | Blueraid: Go -> Autostart in the Konqueror menu |
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| 19:30.01 | Blueraid | must i make for all useres a entry? |
| 19:30.11 | vizard | how do i install a flash plugin for knoqueror |
| 19:30.32 | Blueraid | or is ther a global dir? |
| 19:30.34 | vizard | konqueror* |
| 19:30.58 | pinotree | Blueraid: like the local one, but `kde-config --prefix` instead of ~ |
| 19:31.08 | pinotree | err, instead of ~/kde/ |
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| 19:34.27 | Blueraid | mh must i creat Autostart? |
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| 19:37.30 | Sho_ | Blueraid: The global dir is a lower-case "autostart" fwiw |
| 19:38.18 | Dhraak[Laptop] | trying to remember where the kmenu configuration is stored |
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| 19:38.25 | Dhraak[Laptop] | the actual menus |
| 19:38.40 | Blueraid | mh ok, i have not any dir autostart |
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| 19:40.31 | Blueraid | and in KDEDIR/autostart i put the ecetuable and in env/ the scripts? |
| 19:42.23 | Dhraak[Laptop] | where is the kmenu directory structure and such stored? |
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| 19:43.27 | Sho_ | Dhraak[Laptop]: It's largely generated as established in http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/menu-spec and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/basedir-spec |
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| 19:45.38 | Dhraak[Laptop] | so that I could reset the kmenu to the defaults |
| 19:46.39 | Sho_ | Dhraak[Laptop]: In that case you would have to selectively remove parts of ~/.local, ~/.config and ~/.kde/share/applnk |
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| 19:48.42 | Dhraak[Laptop] | not seeing kde games in the menus, which is why I'm asking |
| 19:49.04 | simmerz | im trying to get kde working properly on my dual head setup with the fglrx driver. I have one screen at 1680x1050 and the other I want to be at 1600x1200, but kde won't accept that and only has a mode to make it 3360x1050 :( |
| 19:50.09 | Anarky | simmerz: that's not kde, that's X |
| 19:50.37 | simmerz | ok |
| 19:50.40 | Anarky | kdeonly provides an interface to choose between the different modes X provides |
| 19:51.02 | Anarky | using what's called XrandR I think |
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| 19:51.13 | simmerz | can it provide a stretched screen on different sized monitors? |
| 19:51.23 | Anarky | so, you'd better ask in a xorg dedicated chan |
| 19:51.31 | Anarky | or even an ATI one |
| 19:51.36 | Sho_ | simmerz: That's driver-specific ... nVidia can, ATi perhaps not. Ask in #ati |
| 19:51.42 | Anarky | I have no idea to tell you the truth |
| 19:51.49 | Sho_ | #xorg doesn't support proprietary drivers |
| 19:51.54 | Sho_ | hence #nvidia or #ati, respectively |
| 19:52.04 | vk` | how to configure arts to work with more then one program i.e. mp3 player movie player and standart kde sounds? |
| 19:52.12 | simmerz | i've asked in #ati and not having much luck |
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| 19:52.42 | Sho_ | vk`: aRts always works with multiple programs - that's what arts is used for |
| 19:52.56 | PhilRod | vk`: use "artsdsp <nonArtsApp>" if you want to make a non-arts app use arts |
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| 19:53.14 | vk` | duno but try to run noatun and no sound after i killed the sound apear |
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| 19:53.46 | vk` | from privious exp when do that sound from player ok but on some err from kde the sound stops |
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| 19:54.24 | vk` | PhilRod: i will try 10x! |
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| 19:54.48 | PhilRod | I'd suggest just trying it once... |
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| 19:56.16 | sona | people! I cant get kde to recognize hal, using kioslaves 3.5.5 and hal 0.5.9.1, any ideas ? |
| 19:56.56 | chealer | sona: what do you mean by "recognize hal"? |
| 19:58.07 | sona | usbsticks and such are not mounted and i Control Center -> Peripherals -> Storage Media it says "No support for HAL on this system" |
| 19:58.43 | sona | HAL works fine tho |
| 19:59.02 | pinotree | sona: then who compiled kde compiled it without the hal support |
| 19:59.16 | sona | no it compiled with hal |
| 19:59.27 | sona | using gentoo stable profile |
| 19:59.29 | benJIman | sona: what distro are you using, is it your own built KDE? |
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| 19:59.42 | benJIman | Are you sure it has hal and dbus support? It's easy to build without. |
| 19:59.51 | benJIman | Often build does't find one of them. |
| 19:59.51 | sona | yes 100% |
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| 20:00.06 | Sho_ | sona: Did you add the HAL daemon to the default runlevel? |
| 20:00.10 | pinotree | sona: from what you get in the control center module, kdebase was compiled without hal & dbus |
| 20:00.13 | sona | yes |
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| 20:00.24 | pinotree | there's no other explanation |
| 20:00.45 | benJIman | If you're using a 64bit system you might need to modify the build script to get it to find hal. |
| 20:01.08 | pinotree | it's not matter of having them running _now_, it's matter of having them when compiling kdebase |
| 20:01.14 | sona | I have USE="hal dbus" in /etc/make.conf before I compiled anything on this system |
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| 20:01.30 | sona | works with ivman |
| 20:01.42 | benJIman | sona: That will just make it try to build with hal support, doesn't mean it actually did, have a look at the build log. |
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| 20:02.27 | sona | oh a bug in the ebuild you mean |
| 20:02.29 | pinotree | (and i'd ask in the distro channel as well, #gentoo-kde or #gentoo ) |
| 20:02.35 | sona | will do |
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| 20:08.21 | Sho_ | (fwiw, my ~arch kde 3.5.7 works fine with USE="hal dbus") |
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| 20:08.55 | GraveDigger | Sho_: hey, are the the one that created yakuake? |
| 20:09.02 | GraveDigger | evening btw |
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| 20:09.35 | sona | yeah, I think Im gonna try 3.5.7 instead |
| 20:09.56 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: I'm its current maintainer and developer |
| 20:10.10 | GraveDigger | Sho_: great! i would like to know, if yakuake will be included into kde directly, or if it will stay a seperate application. |
| 20:10.36 | litb | Sho_: when will the new version be put into public? |
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| 20:11.12 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: Yakauke will continue to be offered as part of KDE in the Extragear Utils module |
| 20:11.27 | Sho_ | litb: Soonish, just have to finish the website I want to open simultaneously |
| 20:11.37 | Sho_ | litb: It's code-complete in SVN |
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| 20:12.28 | GraveDigger | Sho_: ah i see. do you have a Qt4 port in progress? |
| 20:12.56 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: No, I'll do that when there's actually people using KDE 4. Should take about an evening or so. |
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| 20:13.31 | PhilRod | Sho_: is porting to kde 4 that straightforward, or are you just an übercoder? |
| 20:14.13 | icwiener | PhilRod: Where did you get that 'ü' from? :) |
| 20:14.22 | Sho_ | PhilRod: For many applications it's absolutely not straightforward, but Yakuake isn't a very large app |
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| 20:14.49 | PhilRod | icwiener: as in "how did I type it" or "why did I think the u needed an umlaut"? |
| 20:14.55 | GraveDigger | Sho_: okay, good to know. i am really looking forward to it since yakuake is my favorite terminal emulator =) |
| 20:15.09 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: Hope you're using 2.8_beta1 already then =) |
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| 20:16.39 | litb | Sho_: great |
| 20:16.48 | icwiener | PhilRod: No, I know that the "über" is becoming kinda common sense in some english speaking countries and just find it funny, since I am german and here the 'uber' seems to be backported from america atm. :) |
| 20:17.17 | litb | Sho_: does it still display weird background when used not in KDE? |
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| 20:17.37 | Sho_ | litb: yup |
| 20:17.49 | litb | so far, when used not in KDE, it displays a weird tabbar. looks really strange with black and white lines all over the place |
| 20:18.10 | GraveDigger | Sho_: oh, honestly: no, still using the version, that is packaged for suse. but you made me curious! where to get that version? are ther binary packages available, or do i need to build it myself? |
| 20:18.26 | Sho_ | litb: The pseudo-translucency mechanism is provided by a kdelibs class KRootPixmap which works by requesting the background wallpaper from kdesktop via DCOP and painting on top of it |
| 20:18.31 | GraveDigger | Sho_: 2.7.5 that is |
| 20:18.36 | Sho_ | litb: no kdesktop == rendering errors |
| 20:18.57 | litb | Sho_: i see. they should fix KRootPixmap .. |
| 20:19.04 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: I'm sure there's a 2.8_beta1 package for SuSE somewhere .. |
| 20:19.18 | PhilRod | icwiener: ah, yes. I think a lot of english speakers would recognise it, although I don't know whether it got here directly from german or via somewhere else (maybe yiddish?) |
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| 20:19.45 | PhilRod | icwiener: "handy" in german is kind of like that. I had to chuckle the first time I saw it |
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| 20:20.18 | icwiener | PhilRod: Yeah, it's funny when germans go to britain and always say "handy". :) |
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| 20:20.45 | fackamato | Hi. I'm having trouble starting kde... doesn't matter if I use kdm or startx (startkde in xinitrc). the problem is, when kde starts to load (the splash screen appears) it says "starting kde services..." and stays there. |
| 20:20.57 | fackamato | If I click on the splash, it disapperas and leaves me with a blank screen. |
| 20:21.01 | fackamato | and nothing more happens. |
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| 20:21.09 | GraveDigger | Sho_: whohoo! i am reading "whats new" for 2.8, so hell, this one is going to be really nice! :D keep up the good work, yakuake becomes more and more popular amongst people :) |
| 20:21.22 | fackamato | I've deleted all kde related in /tmp, in ~/.kde*, ~/.qt*, rebooted, tried to start, but to no avail. Anyone? :< |
| 20:21.25 | PhilRod | icwiener: I don't remember ever seeing a word borrowed from another language, but where it doesn't mean the same thing in the original language :-) |
| 20:21.40 | PhilRod | although, there are probably a million examples in english that I just don't know about |
| 20:21.45 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: It's a lot better than 2.7.x for sure :-) |
| 20:22.15 | GraveDigger | Sho_: damn nice! i am going to check out the current stuff =) |
| 20:22.20 | PhilRod | fackamato: try with a newly created user, also take a look at ~/.xsession-errors or other appropriate config file |
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| 20:23.12 | fackamato | PhilRod: allright, sec |
| 20:23.30 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: The final release will have a couple of minor corrections and a behavior improvement for Xinerama setups as well as many more translations, but beta1 is essentially stable |
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| 20:24.00 | fackamato | nope, freshly created user experiences same problem |
| 20:24.05 | fackamato | I'll check session-errors |
| 20:25.02 | PhilRod | fackamato: if a new user doesn't work, the most likely explanation is that your installation is "broken" somehow. Exactly how might not be so obvious |
| 20:25.03 | Selvatici | what built in kde player support mp3 files ? |
| 20:25.29 | fackamato | PhilRod: yeah I guess, I'll do a complete reinstall |
| 20:25.41 | chealer | Selvatici: "built in"? if you just mean which player in KDE supports MP3 files, juk is one. |
| 20:25.43 | Sho_ | Selvatici: KDE doesn't ship any audio codecs by itself, that's something the system (i.e. your distribution) needs to provide |
| 20:25.54 | GraveDigger | Selvatici: any one, since they all ask the underlying system for "codecs" |
| 20:26.01 | PhilRod | fackamato: oh, other thing to try - run some other wm, and start a kde app there. does it work? |
| 20:26.04 | Sho_ | Selvatici: if the necessary codec is around, all audio players shipped with KDE support MP3s |
| 20:26.28 | Selvatici | chealer: Thatś it ! ;) |
| 20:26.53 | Selvatici | thanks, I'm gonna get some codes |
| 20:27.07 | Selvatici | lol |
| 20:28.14 | GraveDigger | Selvatici: ask the folks of your distribution about how to get mp3 support |
| 20:28.48 | fackamato | reinstall didn't help either |
| 20:28.51 | fackamato | I'll make a reboot |
| 20:28.51 | fackamato | brb |
| 20:29.18 | Selvatici | GraveDigger: no problems .. but what folks means ? |
| 20:29.34 | GraveDigger | folks == people |
| 20:29.40 | Selvatici | 10ks ! :) |
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| 20:31.38 | fackamato | didn't even work! |
| 20:31.45 | fackamato | man I can't figure this out |
| 20:32.12 | fackamato | in .xsession-errors I have: startkde: starting up... \n kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed |
| 20:32.18 | fackamato | sending sighup to children |
| 20:32.24 | fackamato | but I think that's because of my control+alt+backspace |
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| 20:39.32 | GraveDigger | Sho_: damn nice!!! i love the skinnable yakuake <3 |
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| 20:39.58 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: Oh it was skinnable in 2.7.x too .. |
| 20:40.49 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: Didn't have the GUI for it or the ability to switch the skin at runtime, though |
| 20:40.59 | GraveDigger | Sho_: honestly? okay... well, i never notices |
| 20:41.03 | GraveDigger | *noticed |
| 20:41.19 | GraveDigger | Sho_: i just read it in "whats new" and tried it and found it really nice! :> |
| 20:42.10 | Sho_ | GraveDigger: Well that's good to hear :) |
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| 20:43.43 | fackamato_ | what gives? |
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| 21:12.27 | Halca | My video is much better :> |
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| 21:26.38 | GraveDigger | Sho_: very well - the beta1 of yakuake runs really smooth on my box. nice job dude, keep up the good work! :) |
| 21:26.43 | om | hello |
| 21:26.49 | om | any command to watch my ram information in kde? |
| 21:27.25 | GraveDigger | om: ksysguard |
| 21:29.09 | pinotree | kinfocenter? |
| 21:29.28 | PhinnFort | more /proc/meminfo |
| 21:29.32 | PhinnFort | or less |
| 21:29.35 | PhinnFort | or cat |
| 21:29.35 | Simkin | top |
| 21:30.02 | icwiener | Open the box and looking at the sticker. ;) |
| 21:30.13 | PhinnFort | ;) |
| 21:30.20 | PhinnFort | mail and ask support |
| 21:30.36 | icwiener | guess |
| 21:30.39 | om | thanks gravedigger but that is not giving me the speed of my ram |
| 21:30.39 | icwiener | :) |
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| 21:30.51 | om | i need to know what mhz is running my ram |
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| 22:01.52 | r370 | Hi! I need one help! My KDE is running without Desktop icons e right-click doesn't work... why? |
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| 22:05.01 | aseigo | r370: hm.. works here... are you sure kdesktop is running? |
| 22:05.02 | crs | r370: try to run kdesktop command in console and check whats happened |
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| 22:06.23 | r370 | aseigo and crs, Strange... I don't have kdesktop executable... |
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| 22:09.20 | PhilRod | r370: gentoo? |
| 22:09.41 | r370 | PhilRod, yes, why? |
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| 22:10.16 | PhilRod | you'll want to install the full kdebase package. For some reason gentoo allows you to create a kde installation that's broken in amusing ways like yours |
| 22:11.01 | Narishma | yeah I usually emerge kdelibs and kdebase, then individual applications |
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| 22:35.02 | r370 | aseigo, crs: My KDE didn't had kdesktop. Thank you! |
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| 23:53.21 | Usrl | Stupid question: What is a theme file? I mean, If I download a theme pack, what file is the actual theme that the Theme Manager wants? |
| 23:54.11 | aseigo | the theme pack file itself. |
| 23:54.37 | aseigo | aka "what you downloaded". if it doesn't like it, then you didn't download what you think you did ;) |
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| 23:55.11 | Usrl | It doesn't show the .tar.gz or tar.bz2 etc. files |
| 23:56.03 | aseigo | which .tar.[gz|bz2] files? what did you download, precisely? |
| 23:56.28 | Usrl | From kde-look |
| 23:57.34 | Usrl | Again, what's the file extension? |
| 23:59.43 | Usrl | .kth? |
