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| 00:31.10 | sharp15 | is there a way to get kde to spill the size of drives, filesystem, free space, etc. ? |
| 00:31.39 | JamesB192 | df ? |
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| 00:33.26 | Gentle | sharp15: you can right click any folder icon and click on properties. This will tell you how much space is free on that drive alongside the other information |
| 00:33.34 | sharp15 | JamesB192: thanks. that worked. |
| 00:34.37 | sharp15 | Gentle: I was looking for an overview (i.e. kdf or "My Computer"ish). |
| 00:35.01 | sharp15 | Gentle: thank you for the suggestion though. |
| 00:35.05 | Gentle | I thought so. Well, I haven't found such either so far |
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| 00:39.42 | sharp15 | SUSE had one, i think. i just wasn't sure if that was a SUSE fix or something i hadn't figured out how to enable in kde. |
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| 00:42.47 | Artimus | I'm having troubles with Kmail. I'd like to delete *ALL* of my kmail settings without just deleting .kde. What config files belong to kmail? |
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| 00:48.26 | pcsbsselp | Artimus: what OS? |
| 00:49.42 | Artimus | pcsbsselp: Has Kmail been ported to Windows? If not, it shouldn't really matter? |
| 00:49.57 | Artimus | They're all dot files in one's home directory. |
| 00:50.06 | pcsbsselp | true say. |
| 00:52.55 | pcsbsselp | on mines its /home/admin/.kde/share/apps/kmail maybe that will help? |
| 00:53.34 | Artimus | ahh, I only got the ones in . kde/share/config |
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| 01:26.23 | Herurg | anyone alive? |
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| 01:27.55 | JamesB192 | ^all |
| 01:28.37 | Herurg | tell me, ppl, why the f*ck kppp statistic applet was made NON-resizeable? |
| 01:29.25 | JamesB192 | To drive people away from the infernal dial-up? |
| 01:30.04 | Herurg | i cant see how much i dl'ed when i set any font size more than 14. it just does'nt fit! |
| 01:31.01 | JamesB192 | ifconfig ?? |
| 01:31.21 | Herurg | and how and where i can find responsible one if i am not developer? |
| 01:32.10 | Thundercloud | JamesB192: pppd isn't used for dialup only |
| 01:32.19 | Thundercloud | It's also used for DSL. |
| 01:33.04 | Thundercloud | Herurg: You'll probably not get much of a response from devs nowadays. |
| 01:33.07 | Thundercloud | Everyone's gearing for KDE4. |
| 01:33.37 | Thundercloud | JamesB192: My modem is also external in the sense that it's outside the box. |
| 01:33.42 | Thundercloud | But still hooks to the computer using USB. |
| 01:34.06 | Herurg | i dont change my soft by seasons, and i dont eager 4 kde4 |
| 01:34.26 | Thundercloud | That made no sense at all. |
| 01:34.33 | Thundercloud | Can you explain? |
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| 01:35.15 | Herurg | its easy. what do i have to do with my 3.5? |
| 01:35.34 | Thundercloud | Not a clue. The problem is 3.5 doesn't recieve a lot of attention atm. |
| 01:35.45 | Thundercloud | Most the developers are pushing towards releasing 4.0, which is a total overhaul. |
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| 01:37.30 | Herurg | ic. this is not ibm nor novell. i got it. no more questions. |
| 01:38.00 | Thundercloud | Herurg: Sorry about it all. |
| 01:38.04 | Thundercloud | You're free to tinker with it yourself. |
| 01:38.11 | Thundercloud | I doubt it'd take a lot of doing to make it sizeable again. |
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| 01:40.59 | Herurg | it was'nt resizeable originally and i am not a programmer |
| 01:41.32 | Herurg | i just use it. thats all. |
| 01:41.36 | Thundercloud | mm, that's a shame. Stick around, one of the devs might be able to offer a bit of input. |
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| 01:54.53 | Herurg | Thundercloud can you at least show log to proper person? |
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| 02:05.14 | Herurg | lol |
| 02:06.05 | Herurg | even when i force it to resize, data placeholders stay the same size as before |
| 02:06.16 | Herurg | shit |
| 02:06.41 | Thundercloud | If I see them, sure |
| 02:06.44 | Thundercloud | Right, i'm off |
| 02:06.44 | Thundercloud | bye |
| 02:07.16 | Herurg | mb they fix it in 4 |
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| 02:24.20 | dimm0k | where is the option to tell kde not to save session? |
| 02:24.23 | A_b | I am running opensuse 10.2 and lost the driver for my camera - HP photosmart e327 on a recent kde upgrade on digicam is it a suse thing or kde and can I get it back? |
| 02:26.23 | A_b | It worked well until the recent upgrades i got with kde through yast-software management. |
| 02:27.42 | A_b | Now it doesn't list the driver anymore :/ |
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| 02:37.00 | dimm0k | how do i save a session manually? |
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| 03:03.14 | dc905 | hello all |
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| 03:19.59 | hagabaka | i think it would be logical to hold control while rubberbanding that file, but that doesn't work |
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| 03:23.28 | pcsbsselp | holding ctrl and clicking the file u want to deselct doesnt work? |
| 03:26.22 | A_b | I did a kde upgrade on my opensuse 10.2 and lost the driver for my HP photosmart e327 camera in digicam, can I get it back? |
| 03:28.13 | dc905 | anyone else have problems with kpackage in f7 ? |
| 03:29.17 | sjck | hey, ive no /templates folder in my .kde/share/apps/amarok/scripts - can anyone share his templates or another idea? :) |
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| 03:35.25 | pcsbsselp | freebsd rules. |
| 03:35.50 | Ahmuck | hi, i accidently changed my icon in for "internet" on the menu. where do i find the default? |
| 03:36.01 | Ahmuck | is there a "reset to default" button? |
| 03:36.53 | pcsbsselp | just find the icon online an |
| 03:36.56 | straw | no. you'll have to find the .desktop file under ~/.local |
| 03:36.58 | pcsbsselp | and put it? |
| 03:37.15 | pcsbsselp | so many icons online |
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| 03:37.55 | Ahmuck | i guess i could just rm -rf .* |
| 03:38.04 | Ahmuck | which would reset everything to default |
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| 03:38.30 | pcsbsselp | yeah |
| 03:38.42 | MrGrim | NO NO |
| 03:38.43 | MrGrim | Ahmuck: stop |
| 03:38.47 | MrGrim | Ahmuck: stop |
| 03:38.52 | Ahmuck | :-) |
| 03:39.04 | MrGrim | please tell me you didn't run that command |
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| 03:39.10 | Ahmuck | no ... |
| 03:39.22 | MrGrim | rm -rf .* is the same as rm -rf / |
| 03:39.27 | pcsbsselp | lol |
| 03:39.30 | MrGrim | I assume you don't want to do that? |
| 03:39.41 | pcsbsselp | thaT MEANS dlete everything :) |
| 03:39.51 | MrGrim | think rm -rf .. |
| 03:39.55 | Ahmuck | i have in the past, it only removes .* files in home directory |
| 03:39.59 | MrGrim | bad juju |
| 03:40.19 | MrGrim | your rm is saner than mine :) |
| 03:40.23 | pcsbsselp | hes doing it from the home dirrectory...... |
| 03:40.34 | MrGrim | hmm, well if you don't run it as root |
| 03:40.41 | pcsbsselp | yeah :) |
| 03:40.49 | MrGrim | still |
| 03:40.51 | MrGrim | bad juju |
| 03:40.55 | Ahmuck | problem is, it removes wine configuration :-( |
| 03:41.21 | pcsbsselp | so then just find an icon from the internet and put it? |
| 03:41.35 | MrGrim | Ahmuck: you could rm -rf .kde, but that'll remove bookmarks, akgregator articles, sqlite databases, pop3 downloaded e-mails |
| 03:41.35 | MrGrim | etc |
| 03:41.58 | MrGrim | there are better ways than carpet bombing everything |
| 03:42.08 | straw | again, you'll have to find the .desktop file under ~/.local |
| 03:42.29 | straw | and move it or delete it |
| 03:42.37 | Ahmuck | straw for the menu ? |
| 03:43.07 | pcsbsselp | if u go in the kde menu, and clikc the icon, and type search for "internet" icon it finds it for u..... |
| 03:43.17 | straw | right. that's where kmenuedit stores .desktop files when you make changes to the menu |
| 03:43.27 | Ahmuck | ah yes, i c |
| 03:44.04 | Ahmuck | hrm, is there a way to refresh in kde ? |
| 03:44.36 | Ahmuck | the desktop without logging out |
| 03:45.37 | MrGrim | right click and click "refresh desktop"? |
| 03:46.17 | MrGrim | O_o |
| 03:47.27 | pcsbsselp | lol |
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| 04:27.18 | thesoko | is there a sweet KDE replacement for MS Project? :) |
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| 04:42.00 | mmiikkee12 | kate isn't syntax highlighting any of my php code, just the html parts - how do i enable real php highlighting? |
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| 04:46.37 | mmiikkee12 | same happens in kwrite and quanta... must be with whatever they all use to highlight |
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| 04:48.54 | chealer | mmiikkee12: syntax highlighting is set to PHP, right? |
| 04:49.07 | mmiikkee12 | chealer: scripts -> PHP (HTML) |
| 04:49.28 | mmiikkee12 | the <?php and ?> are bold, all text between them is completely ignored by the highlighter |
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| 04:54.43 | mmiikkee12 | chealer: i don't have an entry for just plain PHP |
| 04:55.20 | chealer | mmiikkee12: I was talking about PHP (HTML), yeah. you're sure it's not a problem only with a specific file? |
| 04:55.56 | mmiikkee12 | chealer: yeah, happens with all my php files |
| 04:56.54 | chealer | mmiikkee12: no idea, sounds like a bug |
| 04:57.25 | mmiikkee12 | hmm, from the php.xml file: <language name="PHP/PHP" << i don't have a PHP/PHP entry either |
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| 04:58.34 | mmiikkee12 | ...but i do in the dialog that lets you change the colors |
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| 05:00.58 | mmiikkee12 | whoever made these files did something funky with them... chealer, do you have /usr/share/apps/katepart/syntax/{html,}-php.xml? |
| 05:01.28 | chealer | mmiikkee12: yes |
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| 05:04.34 | purplepenguins | blah |
| 05:04.36 | purplepenguins | netsplit |
| 05:04.56 | purplepenguins | so how do you have a bash script execute when you log in to kde? |
| 05:05.30 | mmiikkee12 | <!-- ***** THIS FILE WAS GENERATED BY A SCRIPT - DO NOT EDIT ***** --> << that could explain why i can't understand a single tag of it |
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| 05:12.04 | mmiikkee12 | but i can't figure out how to do both at once |
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| 05:30.10 | ichthudion | Hey all |
| 05:30.34 | ichthudion | I installed Beryl with KDE and it hijacked kde as I suppose it should. However after I uninstalled beryl, kwin is still not my WM. and the desktop cube still appears when I change my virtual desktop |
| 05:31.10 | ichthudion | That is not such a big deal, but when I switch desktops, all of the windows are still in the taskbar. It no longer only shows windows from the current desktop |
| 05:31.26 | ichthudion | And I cannot for the life of me remember where I went to change that in the beginning |
| 05:31.33 | nextse7en | can someone help with my noobishness around kuroo? I've selected packages I want to install, an now they are all listed out, but when I check install packages, it pauses for a minute, and nothing changes. |
| 05:31.48 | ichthudion | nextse7en: what distro? |
| 05:32.16 | nextse7en | Sabayon, hell, I'm on the wrong channel, aren't I. |
| 05:32.29 | ichthudion | nextse7en: I would have to say yes on that :) |
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| 05:36.25 | CPrgmSwR2 | Any kde4 users in here? |
| 05:37.00 | ichthudion | If I had a spine I would try it |
| 05:37.02 | ichthudion | :) |
| 05:37.13 | ichthudion | After watching beryl eat my desktop I'm a bit scared |
| 05:37.40 | CPrgmSwR2 | kde4 will run without composite |
| 05:37.56 | ichthudion | Well, I still haven't entirely recovered kde 3 yet |
| 05:38.04 | CPrgmSwR2 | I have an ati-radeon card so I can't run the beryl |
| 05:38.06 | Simeon_H | problem solved |
| 05:38.11 | CPrgmSwR2 | LOL |
| 05:38.33 | ichthudion | I was given a Gforce 4 today |
| 05:38.33 | ichthudion | So I'm pretty excited |
| 05:38.44 | ichthudion | But I over did it way to fast with installing neat crap |
| 05:39.04 | CPrgmSwR2 | Oh |
| 05:39.05 | ichthudion | Guess I could always restore my ~/.kde to the backup I made |
| 05:39.33 | CPrgmSwR2 | I am tring to see I can get sound working in kde4 so I can start using it perminantly |
| 05:39.50 | ichthudion | Is kde4 stable enough to use yet? |
| 05:39.59 | AmyRose | ichthudion: No |
| 05:40.05 | ichthudion | I didn't think so |
| 05:40.14 | Simeon_H | man when I get a new computer ...hopefully before the end of the world |
| 05:40.23 | Simeon_H | I'll be screwin around with beryl :D |
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| 05:40.53 | ichthudion | I always drooled over beryl |
| 05:41.05 | ichthudion | But it has spanked me |
| 05:41.25 | ichthudion | At least I can play playstation games now |
| 05:41.31 | ichthudion | That's the important thing |
| 05:41.33 | CPrgmSwR2 | I can run beryl here |
| 05:41.55 | ichthudion | I have a terrible suspicion that Yast has something to do with my problem |
| 05:42.12 | ichthudion | Me and that bastard have been fighting since day one |
| 05:42.26 | ichthudion | But he always says "I'll change, I promise. I'll work right and I'll be good" |
| 05:42.33 | ichthudion | I blieve him and bam I'm screwed over again |
| 05:42.58 | CPrgmSwR2 | I use gentoo |
| 05:43.11 | ichthudion | I'm addicted to suse |
| 05:43.16 | ichthudion | It's all about the lizard |
| 05:43.26 | CPrgmSwR2 | what does the lizard do |
| 05:43.39 | ichthudion | Opens my kickoff menu |
| 05:43.41 | ichthudion | :) |
| 05:44.01 | ichthudion | I guess more than anything I'm too lazy to install anything else |
| 05:44.15 | ichthudion | Only other discs I have are Ubuntu and Xandros |
| 05:44.31 | ichthudion | And Solaris 10 but I don't even want to go there again |
| 05:44.53 | CPrgmSwR2 | i love how I can constantly update my system on gentoo |
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| 05:50.51 | Raging_Hog | constantly meaning all the time? |
| 05:51.13 | CPrgmSwR2 | I mean every day |
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| 05:54.49 | helloyo | i'm trying to batch process a directory of files (downgrade mp3s with lame), but i can't find any info... |
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| 05:56.40 | CPrgmSwR2 | helloyo: out of couriousity why are you downgrading mp3s? |
| 05:57.35 | helloyo | CPrgmSwR2: to put onto my mobile, don't really need 200kbs+ files there |
| 05:57.50 | CPrgmSwR2 | oh |
| 05:58.05 | CPrgmSwR2 | what mobile device? |
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| 05:59.40 | helloyo | CPrgmSwR2: just a sony ericsson k610i, basic phone, but it works great |
| 06:00.02 | CPrgmSwR2 | interesting |
| 06:00.14 | Raging_Hog | CPrgmSwR2, I've got a gentoo box at home and as I keep my computer on only couple of hours a day it won't have the time to sync and update |
| 06:01.07 | CPrgmSwR2 | I often sync/update within an hour unless openoffice updates |
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| 06:06.15 | thomas | how about a plasma widget that is a visualizer for amarok? |
| 06:08.34 | CPrgmSwR2 | thomas could happen |
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| 06:45.42 | maelstrom | hello, not sure if this is a kde problem, but in firefox, as a result of uninstalling evolution, i cannot open email links despite thunderbird being my "preferred email application" in kde control center. anybody know how to fix that ? |
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| 06:46.38 | Woosta | What's the konqueror 'protocol' for an appleshare? I tried afs:// to no avail .. |
| 06:47.01 | benJIman | maelstrom: As firefox is not a kde application, it will hot honour the KDE preferred email client setting. |
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| 06:49.27 | maelstrom | dang |
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| 06:59.28 | Woosta | Did anyone answer? |
| 07:00.28 | aluchko | Woosta, nope |
| 07:01.26 | Skrot- | Woosta: Do you mean zeroconf? |
| 07:01.44 | Woosta | no idea .. I want to connect to an appleshare on a remote machine :-D |
| 07:02.09 | Skrot- | Try zeroconf:/ if the machines are on the same IP-range |
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| 07:07.53 | Woosta | OK, so I've installed zeroconf .. and run zeroconf -i eth1 .. but konq still says "The zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running" |
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| 07:18.47 | Skrot- | I've only go avahi running |
| 07:18.49 | Skrot- | got* |
| 07:20.26 | eNTi | Skrot-: you got avahi running? mine is constantly segfaulting... |
| 07:20.36 | eNTi | some libdaemon bug |
| 07:20.42 | Skrot- | It's default in kubuntu i think |
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| 07:22.17 | Woosta | Even if I could just work out how to use 'mount' to mount it .. |
| 07:28.05 | Woosta | Ahh .. I need afpfs .. which hasn't compiled since 2.1??? |
| 07:28.07 | Woosta | wtf! |
| 07:29.35 | Woosta | Ahhh afpfs-ng |
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| 07:40.50 | foug | how do i enable secure listing in konqueror? |
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| 07:48.28 | foug | where do i go to configure ftp settings in konqueror? |
| 07:49.46 | kernco | How do I get KDE to execute a command when I press a key combination? |
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| 07:53.25 | Maxdamantus | How do I stop it displaying the icon next to mouse when opening a link from a program? |
| 07:54.06 | Maxdamantus | For example, when I open a link, it will open it in a new Firefox tab, but KDE won't know it's already been done, because a new window isn't popping up. |
| 07:54.15 | Maxdamantus | So it keeps the icon bouncing there for about 20s. |
| 07:54.35 | kernco | uncheck the "Visual feedback on activation" option in the mouse configuration |
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| 07:55.17 | kernco | nvm, that's not it |
| 07:55.23 | Maxdamantus | Thanks. |
| 07:55.25 | Maxdamantus | Yea, it is. |
| 07:55.26 | foug | no one knows about ftp in konq? |
| 07:55.34 | Maxdamantus | foug, yes. |
| 07:55.39 | ichthudion | when using compiz as my wm, how do I make the task bar on kde show only the windows from the current desktop |
| 07:55.47 | Maxdamantus | Well, not much, but enough to use it.. |
| 07:55.50 | foug | Maxdamantus: i need to enable secure listing, and use AUTH SSL |
| 07:56.06 | Maxdamantus | Try looking in the config. |
| 07:56.17 | ichthudion | That option disappears from the list when I try to config the panel with compiz running |
| 07:56.18 | foug | i did |
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| 07:57.48 | flamesrock | hi.. I'm wondering if there are fluxbox-like themes available for kde? |
| 07:58.03 | flamesrock | all I can find are fisher price windows XP type themes |
| 07:58.31 | flamesrock | I want a thin toolbar and preferably borderless |
| 07:58.45 | kernco | ichthudion: I think that's because compiz just uses one KDE desktop and then makes it's own virtual desktops. I'm not sure if there's a setting to change that. |
| 07:59.17 | Maxdamantus | flamesrock, try right clicking the toolbar, and configuring it. |
| 07:59.39 | Maxdamantus | In the context menu, should have "Configure panel..." or something similar. |
| 07:59.52 | Maxdamantus | In there, you can change the thickness of the bar, and how long it is. |
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| 08:00.00 | flamesrock | whoa I didn't know you could do that |
| 08:00.01 | flamesrock | insane |
| 08:00.04 | bEe_ | hi |
| 08:00.09 | flamesrock | thanks |
| 08:00.52 | Maxdamantus | And I think it's possible to run just the fluxbox wm in KDE.. |
| 08:01.20 | bEe_ | how can i fix tis problem: http://rafb.net/p/TwIUeS35.html ? |
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| 08:01.40 | flamesrock | it is but I prefer kde all around |
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| 08:06.58 | Maxdamantus | flamesrock, nope, don't try fluxbox on KDE. |
| 08:07.10 | flamesrock | didn't work for you? |
| 08:07.15 | Maxdamantus | Not quite. |
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| 08:07.19 | flamesrock | I managed to get it working with beryl manager |
| 08:07.22 | ichthudion | kernco: Actually decided to read the docs and you are right, it can't be done |
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| 08:07.32 | ichthudion | Sucks that I can't get Beryl to work |
| 08:07.38 | Maxdamantus | It said it thought I already had a window manager running, after killing kwin. |
| 08:07.43 | flamesrock | meh... it's too clunky |
| 08:07.46 | Maxdamantus | Then froze KDE. Xd |
| 08:07.51 | flamesrock | lol |
| 08:07.56 | Maxdamantus | ichthudion, why can't you get beryl to work? |
| 08:08.14 | Maxdamantus | Beryl are teh lag for me. |
| 08:08.16 | ichthudion | Maxdamantus: It installed and it runs, but none the effects work |
| 08:08.26 | Maxdamantus | Do you have emerald? |
| 08:08.30 | ichthudion | Yes |
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| 08:08.48 | Maxdamantus | Was the emerald theme visible? |
| 08:08.51 | ichthudion | All it does is change my wm to compiz. |
| 08:08.58 | ichthudion | And I can't change the themes or anything |
| 08:09.02 | ichthudion | It pretty much does nothing |
| 08:09.42 | barbadillo | hi people, how to configure konqueror file manager in order to use double click to open files and not single click? |
| 08:10.10 | Maxdamantus | I havn't tried compiz, but I googled it, and saw that it seems to be exactly the same as Beryl. |
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| 08:10.44 | ichthudion | Beryl uses compiz as a wm by default it seems |
| 08:11.07 | Maxdamantus | The wm should be emerald though. |
| 08:11.10 | ichthudion | When I installed Beryl it completely took over and now even without beryl installed I'm stuck with compiz as my wm |
| 08:11.26 | ichthudion | I have to run kwin --replace if I want to use kwin |
| 08:11.47 | Maxdamantus | Try running "compiz" |
| 08:11.52 | ichthudion | I did |
| 08:11.56 | ichthudion | It runs very well |
| 08:12.04 | Maxdamantus | It seems to run both beryl and emerald for me. |
| 08:12.09 | barbadillo | someone understood my question? |
| 08:12.36 | Maxdamantus | barbadillo, that's in KDE config somewhere. |
| 08:12.37 | ichthudion | I don't know |
| 08:12.40 | ichthudion | it is really confusing me |
| 08:13.00 | ichthudion | I do like compiz, however I can't stand showing windows from all desktops in my panel |
| 08:13.04 | ichthudion | And compiz requires that |
| 08:13.12 | barbadillo | Maxdamantus: i don't remember where it is |
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| 08:13.42 | Maxdamantus | I do. |
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| 08:13.55 | Maxdamantus | Go into the KDE configuration, thn Peripherals > Mouse |
| 08:14.00 | ichthudion | barbadillo: be with you in a sec |
| 08:14.04 | Maxdamantus | And choose "Double click to open files and folders" |
| 08:14.20 | ichthudion | nevermind Maxdamantus got it |
| 08:14.31 | barbadillo | Maxdamantus: wow thanks |
| 08:14.33 | ichthudion | I love the search bar in suse |
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| 08:14.41 | ichthudion | Just typed in doubleclick and it took me there |
| 08:14.51 | Maxdamantus | Really? |
| 08:15.06 | Maxdamantus | Oh. In the search thing. |
| 08:15.08 | ichthudion | Yea |
| 08:15.20 | ichthudion | I'm spoiled by search boxes in applications |
| 08:15.31 | ichthudion | Beats the Slack 8 + KDE 2 days |
| 08:16.16 | Maxdamantus | The search boxes are part of KDE. |
| 08:16.24 | Maxdamantus | I remember using KDE in Gentoo, and it had them. |
| 08:16.38 | ichthudion | Heh, I figured it was part off the beagle crap SUSE puts in everything |
| 08:16.49 | Maxdamantus | And my KDE is the one from the KDE site, not the one from Kubuntu. |
| 08:16.57 | Maxdamantus | I hated the Kubuntu modified KDE. |
| 08:17.05 | ichthudion | Still waiting on my Kubuntu discs to come in |
| 08:17.17 | ichthudion | I'm about to smite suse with a hammer |
| 08:17.30 | Maxdamantus | Why? |
| 08:17.36 | Maxdamantus | I want to try SUSE. |
| 08:17.53 | ichthudion | Well, I do love suse. The kick-off menu, the feel of it and even yast |
| 08:18.00 | ichthudion | But, then again yast and I have issues |
| 08:18.38 | ichthudion | For some reason, I am really awesome and screwing things up and then yast gets mad and destroys my life |
| 08:18.45 | ichthudion | awesome at* |
| 08:19.03 | ichthudion | I'm a big fan of installing as much from source as I can |
| 08:19.21 | Maxdamantus | Ubuntu isn't. |
| 08:19.22 | ichthudion | Then when I need to use yast to update or something it throws a hissy fit |
| 08:19.38 | Maxdamantus | Aptitude does that. |
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| 08:20.15 | ichthudion | I was a slack user for several years |
| 08:20.27 | ichthudion | So, I'm easily intimidated by package management |
| 08:20.38 | ichthudion | Or just oblivious to it |
| 08:20.40 | Maxdamantus | Get Gentoo if you like source. :) |
| 08:20.58 | Maxdamantus | Gentoo owns all, except I couldn't get my sound card working on it. |
| 08:21.09 | Maxdamantus | Which was the only reason I switched to Kubuntu. |
| 08:21.15 | ichthudion | I would probably have issues with my sound, video, and wifi |
| 08:21.27 | ichthudion | Seems to be a pattern for me |
| 08:21.31 | kernco | Maxdamantus: I'm using Kubuntu...what did they change in KDE? |
| 08:21.52 | Maxdamantus | Stuff like the configuration. |
| 08:22.02 | ichthudion | I'm scared to try the *ubuntu family because it seems like it would be very watered down |
| 08:22.04 | Maxdamantus | And some other stuff that I can't remember. |
| 08:22.26 | Maxdamantus | <ichthudion> Still waiting on my Kubuntu discs to come in |
| 08:22.28 | ichthudion | Opposed to the others I run that are 5-6 cds or dvd |
| 08:22.55 | ichthudion | Maxdamantus: When I see free CD I order it, I don't care what it is. I have vmware for the purpose of playing with it |
| 08:23.02 | kernco | I like the one CD. Then I can download the packages I need, instead of having a bunch of stuff I'll never use |
| 08:23.21 | Maxdamantus | Lol. |
| 08:23.33 | ichthudion | I've been sitting here staring at my solaris dvds debating on just installing it again |
| 08:24.01 | ichthudion | But the latest build of KDE for it is 3.2 I think |
| 08:24.49 | Maxdamantus | Solaris is on my to-try list. |
| 08:25.02 | ichthudion | Maxdamantus: head to sun.com and get a free media kit then |
| 08:25.20 | Maxdamantus | Don't wanna waste my bandwidth. |
| 08:25.20 | kernco | It's on my school's machines and I hate it |
| 08:25.31 | ichthudion | Solaris 10 is stable but very outdated. Solaris express doesn't have the developer tools but the much more visually appeasing |
| 08:25.49 | ichthudion | I just ordered both |
| 08:26.05 | ichthudion | That way I get the dev tools and the new packages |
| 08:27.07 | ichthudion | kernco: why do you hate Solaris? |
| 08:27.18 | Maxdamantus | SUSE looks fun. |
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| 08:27.40 | ichthudion | Maxdamantus: SUSE is very nice, regardless of what people say about it. |
| 08:27.57 | ichthudion | You just have to customize kde a lot because it is ugly by default |
| 08:28.01 | Maxdamantus | What do people say about it? |
| 08:28.10 | Maxdamantus | KDE is always ugly by default. |
| 08:28.11 | ichthudion | The whole novell/ms deal |
| 08:28.21 | Maxdamantus | All the distribs make it look bloated and ugly. |
| 08:28.24 | kernco | I think I just haven't taken the time to configure things how I like them. Using the shell is a pain, but it's bash so I just need to tweak some settings. |
| 08:28.44 | ichthudion | kernco: The worst thing is sun's version of Gnome |
| 08:28.51 | kernco | They have that |
| 08:28.53 | Maxdamantus | Just need to get slicker window decorations and widgets, then resize the panel, maybe add a new one. |
| 08:28.55 | Maxdamantus | And it's sweet. |
| 08:28.56 | kernco | The icons are ugly |
| 08:29.22 | ichthudion | Well that is gnome for you |
| 08:29.32 | kernco | I like the human icons from ubuntu |
| 08:29.44 | ichthudion | kernco: the new version of Solaris looks a thousand times better |
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| 08:30.05 | ichthudion | And it is more gnu so it is much more user friendly |
| 08:30.19 | kernco | That's good |
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| 08:31.49 | ichthudion | I'm tempted to go back with baghira and getting away from this whole vista look I have going on |
| 08:32.08 | kernco | What is baghira? |
| 08:32.09 | ichthudion | Do an OS X clone again |
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| 08:32.28 | ichthudion | kernco: baghira is a the manager for kde |
| 08:32.31 | ichthudion | theme* |
| 08:32.36 | ichthudion | wow, my typing blows tonight |
| 08:32.44 | kernco | hmm...I don't think I have that |
| 08:33.34 | kernco | I'm new to KDE. Was a Gnome user for a while |
| 08:33.53 | kernco | But I just can't ignore KDE 4 |
| 08:33.57 | xhadamek | hi is in KDE any tool to setup drivers (modules) which are loading for some HW? |
| 08:34.27 | ichthudion | xhadamek: that would be distro specific |
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| 08:34.50 | xhadamek | ic thanks |
| 08:35.19 | xhadamek | (just in case it is sabayon/gentoo) |
| 08:35.37 | Maxdamantus | If you mean loading modules at startup. |
| 08:35.50 | xhadamek | yy |
| 08:35.52 | Maxdamantus | It's done at boot, I know in Gentoo, you can change it. |
| 08:36.07 | Maxdamantus | lemme check the file. |
| 08:37.30 | ichthudion | he is going to look at the file to see how to do it |
| 08:37.33 | Maxdamantus | Do you know the module name? |
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| 08:38.05 | xhadamek | :) i need to stop loading bcm43xx and load ndiswrapper instead |
| 08:38.28 | Maxdamantus | Look at the files in /etc/modules.autoload.d |
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| 08:38.52 | Maxdamantus | Should be something like kernel-2.6 which configures what modules load on startup. |
| 08:38.56 | hihi1 | What are the advantages of kde vs gnome?? I am new to Linux and can't decide witch one to use. |
| 08:39.06 | xhadamek | its empty |
| 08:39.15 | Maxdamantus | hihi1, I find KDE more customisible in general. |
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| 08:39.26 | ichthudion | Gnome is like OS X with none of the good features and all of the bad ones. But it is pretty slick and pretty fast. |
| 08:39.32 | xhadamek | so should i add ndiswrapper? |
| 08:39.43 | kernco | hihi1: Gnome is probably easier to use at first |
| 08:39.46 | ichthudion | KDE is very full featured, more customizable, sometimes bloated but over all better |
| 08:39.57 | Maxdamantus | xhadamek, yes. |
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| 08:40.07 | xhadamek | and how to stop loading bcm43xX? |
| 08:40.19 | ichthudion | I used gnome for a long time but kde finally one me over with all of the possibilities in the look and feel |
| 08:40.27 | Maxdamantus | Not sure.. It probably won't mind if it's still loaded. |
| 08:40.30 | hihi1 | The only difference I even see is the icon on the menu... both kde and gnome have panels and a desktop. |
| 08:40.48 | ichthudion | hihi1: In fedora they look exactly alike |
| 08:41.10 | xhadamek | hmm i need to unload it :-/ if it will be loaded my wifi will still use it (bcm43xx) |
| 08:41.10 | ichthudion | Just an educated guess |
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| 09:21.41 | ichthudion | Shouldn't I be able to find the system tray in the 'add applet to panel' window? |
| 09:22.02 | ichthudion | nevermind |
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| 09:33.36 | tuxick | for some reason konqueror stopped handling stuff like “ |
| 09:33.38 | tuxick | where to look? |
| 09:33.54 | tuxick | can't imagine it's a font thing |
| 09:34.00 | tuxick | hm |
| 09:34.37 | tuxick | lol, it is |
| 09:34.39 | tuxick | nevermind then! |
| 09:37.42 | tuxick | i can't imagine a font not having stuff like quotes? |
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| 10:17.06 | RivaeAerya | Is it possible to make websites use gray instead of white, and the link colors another one? |
| 10:17.08 | RivaeAerya | on all websites? |
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| 10:21.04 | RivaeAerya | anyone know? |
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| 10:26.24 | tuxick | RivaeAerya: you mean in browser configuration? |
| 10:26.24 | clojster | Hi, I've got kmail question |
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| 10:27.23 | clojster | is it possible to have more mail addresses (for receiving and sending) than one and to have them whithin one identity?? |
| 10:28.09 | tuxick | clojster: that doesn't make sense |
| 10:28.22 | clojster | why not? |
| 10:28.49 | clojster | so should I create more identities then? |
| 10:28.52 | lostchild | clojster: yes it is for receiving. |
| 10:29.22 | lostchild | i;m not sure about sending. haven't tried. |
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| 10:34.08 | RivaeAerya | tuxick: yes |
| 10:36.57 | tuxick | RivaeAerya: don't think it can do that |
| 10:37.07 | tuxick | which seems odd |
| 10:37.11 | RivaeAerya | tuxick: can't? |
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| 10:40.00 | tuxick | RivaeAerya: you can use global settings in control panel->appearance&themes->colors |
| 10:40.31 | RivaeAerya | tuxick: global settings? where? |
| 10:40.39 | tuxick | ^^^^ |
| 10:40.58 | RivaeAerya | yeah i'm in that dialog |
| 10:41.02 | RivaeAerya | just can't see global settings |
| 10:41.13 | tuxick | those are the global settings :) |
| 10:41.26 | tuxick | i mean for all of kde |
| 10:42.59 | RivaeAerya | yeah but i meant for websites, for the sites in konqueror |
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| 10:44.59 | tuxick | why just there? |
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| 10:47.51 | xushi | is there a KDE program that creates GANT charts ? |
| 10:49.41 | lostchild | xushi: kdgantt maybe. check in #kontact. or the koffice website |
| 10:49.42 | pinotree | kplato? |
| 10:50.11 | xushi | thanks |
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| 10:51.02 | xushi | hmm, kdgantt doesn't exist |
| 10:51.11 | pinotree | kdgantt is just a library |
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| 10:52.22 | om | hello |
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| 10:52.22 | om | im having this error in kde |
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| 10:52.29 | om | "could not find mime type |
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| 10:52.41 | om | application/octet-stream |
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| 10:52.54 | om | anyone know the meaning of this? |
| 10:52.55 | pinotree | in a console, try running kbuildsycoca |
| 10:53.10 | tuxick | om do you happen to be using gentoo? |
| 10:53.22 | om | yes |
| 10:53.30 | tuxick | right :) i had the same |
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| 10:53.43 | tuxick | afair pinotree's tip was the one |
| 10:54.07 | om | wow |
| 10:54.10 | om | it seems it works |
| 10:54.12 | om | thanks a lot pinotree |
| 10:54.18 | om | i really appreciate your help |
| 10:54.20 | om | thank you |
| 10:54.33 | pinotree | you're welcome |
| 10:54.47 | om | sorry im new in linux |
| 10:54.50 | om | so im a bit slow |
| 10:54.57 | pinotree | not a problem, really :) |
| 10:55.01 | om | but until now everything is working perfectly |
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| 10:55.09 | om | oh well i just have one problem |
| 10:55.12 | om | i cant make my webcam work! |
| 10:55.13 | om | :( |
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| 10:55.36 | tuxick | webcams are a bit of a pain |
| 10:55.41 | om | lol |
| 10:55.43 | om | yeah i see now |
| 10:55.44 | tuxick | got a working driver at all? |
| 10:55.59 | om | well i run a driver that was supposed to make it work |
| 10:56.00 | om | but nothing happen |
| 10:56.09 | tuxick | check out http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Webcam-HOWTO/ |
| 10:56.10 | root__ | everyone use Fedora core 7? |
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| 10:56.21 | tuxick | also try playing with streamer and xawtv |
| 10:57.01 | tuxick | but it's not a kde question :) |
| 10:57.08 | om | yeah |
| 10:57.15 | om | thanks a lot tuxick |
| 10:57.59 | root__ | this is 1st time i use Fedora core. so i ask something, how can i use virtual machine? |
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| 10:59.05 | tuxick | that too isn't a kde question :) |
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| 10:59.42 | pinotree | root__: #fedora please |
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| 11:00.57 | pinotree | bye root__... |
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| 11:18.13 | aum | hi - where does konqueror hide its favicon.ico files? |
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| 11:18.33 | aum | i've updated favicon.ico on my site, konqueror won't download the new one, even after i've cleared my cache |
| 11:18.57 | aum | i know konqueror hides favicon.ico files in a weird secret place - I found it once a couple of years ago |
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| 11:22.21 | stdin | aum: /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/favicons ? |
| 11:22.35 | cyco | hello #kde |
| 11:24.02 | cyco | i'm on a backtrack2 with a kde environment ... and a french keyboard. I wan't to now if I can change the keyboard in the KDE keyboard tool by a script. If so, how ? |
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| 11:28.18 | aum | stdin: found it, thx |
| 11:28.31 | aum | why on earth does konqueror refuse to update favicon.ico? |
| 11:28.46 | aum | that's really lame |
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| 11:50.01 | aep | greetings |
| 11:50.42 | aep | i tryed to set the file association for html to kate. now konqueror openes everything in kate |
| 11:50.50 | aep | even normal links |
| 11:50.55 | aep | on websites |
| 11:51.00 | aep | is there anything i can do? |
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| 11:54.40 | whirm | hi! |
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| 11:55.44 | aep | ah found |
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| 12:09.09 | icwiener | Does ktorrent 2.2. look like the 2.0 again? I have some regressions here and wonder if I installed the right version. |
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| 12:09.58 | Richlv | if i attempt to open audiocd:/, i get an error : |
| 12:09.59 | Richlv | Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_audiocd'. |
| 12:10.06 | Richlv | how could i further debug this ? |
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| 12:11.14 | icwiener | Richlv: Do you have the kdemultimedia io slaves installed? |
| 12:12.26 | Richlv | icwiener, i'm using slackware packages, so i assume yes (those are probably in kdebase package or similar, right ?) |
| 12:12.56 | icwiener | I think they are in the kdemultimedia package, but I do not know slackware. |
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| 12:13.59 | Richlv | i have that one installed |
| 12:14.29 | icwiener | Richlv: look if there is a separate package for the io slaves. |
| 12:14.49 | Richlv | icwiener, nope, there is not |
| 12:14.58 | Richlv | slackware usually doesn't split original packages |
| 12:15.55 | Richlv | also console output isn't any more verbose |
| 12:16.23 | icwiener | Hmm, then I'm pretty out of options. ;) |
| 12:16.47 | icwiener | Richlv: You could look for a file named $KDEDIR//lib/kde3/kio_audiocd* |
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| 12:17.44 | Richlv | /usr/lib/kde3/kio_audiocd.la* /usr/lib/kde3/kio_audiocd.so* |
| 12:17.47 | Richlv | files are there |
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| 12:18.06 | Richlv | i even have dbus and hal running =) |
| 12:18.08 | pinotree | no |
| 12:18.32 | pinotree | try running kde-config --prefix |
| 12:19.16 | pinotree | Richlv: ^ |
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| 12:19.28 | Richlv | pinotree, /usr |
| 12:19.33 | Richlv | since slackware 12.0 :) |
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| 12:20.04 | pinotree | do you have /usr/share/services/audiocd.protocol ? |
| 12:20.24 | Richlv | pinotree, yes |
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| 12:20.58 | pinotree | try running kbuildsycoca, and run a new konqueror window by explicitely run 'konqueror' in a console |
| 12:21.01 | Richlv | rerunning ldconfig did not help :) |
| 12:21.17 | Richlv | yeah, kbuildsycoca was next on my list, thanks for reminding the name :) |
| 12:21.24 | pinotree | ldconfig won't help |
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| 12:22.32 | Richlv | i got several warnings about different mimetypes, like : |
| 12:22.33 | Richlv | specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'audio/mpg' |
| 12:22.39 | Richlv | is this significant ? |
| 12:22.57 | pinotree | not to your issue |
| 12:23.07 | Richlv | ok |
| 12:23.46 | Richlv | pinotree, the same error is shown |
| 12:24.19 | pinotree | export KDEDIRS=/usr |
| 12:24.26 | pinotree | then the two commands above |
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| 12:25.49 | Richlv | pinotree, nope, did not help |
| 12:26.01 | Richlv | i also got "ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)" |
| 12:26.19 | Richlv | after kioslave errors |
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| 13:01.14 | Richlv | strace -e file on konqueror shows : |
| 13:01.15 | Richlv | open("/tmp/ksocket-rich/konquerorUXpI5a.slave-socket", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) = 12 |
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| 13:01.27 | Richlv | does that (error code 12) means anything in this context ? |
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| 13:13.13 | Richlv | ahhh. i resolved my audiocd:/ not working |
| 13:13.40 | Richlv | pinotree, in case you are interested : libcdda_paranoia.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 13:13.51 | Richlv | in ~/.xsession-errors |
| 13:13.55 | pinotree | then install cdparanoia |
| 13:13.59 | Richlv | too bad this did not appear on console |
| 13:14.07 | Richlv | pinotree, exactly, already did that and now it works |
| 13:14.37 | Richlv | and now kaudiocreator works :) |
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| 13:15.04 | icwiener | I guess that's a slackware issue. In Debian the koislave depends on libcdparanoia. |
| 13:15.20 | pinotree | indeed, i'd report the problem to the packager |
| 13:15.43 | Richlv | there are no dependancies in slackware ;) |
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| 13:16.12 | Richlv | it's just that i was awaiting error messages about missing libs in console output |
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| 14:16.46 | Vinaykumar | helloo room |
| 14:17.09 | Vinaykumar | i have a small problem |
| 14:17.12 | Vinaykumar | :) |
| 14:17.49 | Vinaykumar | helloo anyone heree? |
| 14:17.52 | Kyral_Laptop | Just ask :P |
| 14:18.07 | Vinaykumar | i have installed java for fedora 7 |
| 14:18.18 | Vinaykumar | but it is not working for firefox |
| 14:18.21 | Kyral_Laptop | #fedora |
| 14:18.26 | Kyral_Laptop | ask there |
| 14:18.30 | Vinaykumar | sorry |
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| 14:22.46 | Kyral_Laptop | sokay :P |
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| 14:26.03 | Vinaykumar | see when ever i shutdown my pc the motherboard is still powered-on |
| 14:26.14 | Vinaykumar | from kde |
| 14:26.38 | Kyral_Laptop | hmm, maybe the halt command isn't being sent |
| 14:27.02 | Vinaykumar | yaa |
| 14:27.29 | Vinaykumar | so wat is the solution |
| 14:28.52 | Kyral_Laptop | dunno |
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| 14:35.47 | Jejem | Vinaykumar: ACPI related prob. |
| 14:35.56 | Jejem | disable, and try with APM |
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| 14:36.53 | Vinaykumar | in BIOS? |
| 14:37.06 | Vinaykumar | ok |
| 14:37.52 | Vinaykumar | while booting i get a msg saying some acpi fails cutoff force is required |
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| 14:46.21 | Vinaykumar | Jejem: thanks |
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| 14:47.04 | Jejem | Vinaykumar: it works ? |
| 14:47.05 | Jejem | o_O |
| 14:48.45 | foxler_ | zero_ZERO |
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| 14:49.10 | Jejem | lol |
| 14:49.16 | Jejem | it's a letter |
| 14:49.17 | Jejem | :) |
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| 14:53.33 | giannis | Τι είναι αυτό ρε παιδιά; |
| 14:53.55 | hydrogen | english please in here |
| 14:54.10 | eNTi | it looks funny though |
| 14:54.29 | eNTi | like someone trying to write in "math". |
| 14:55.17 | giannis | Υπάρχει κανένας ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ |
| 14:55.32 | hydrogen | none of us speak greek :( |
| 14:55.33 | Jejem | giannis: english please, 2nd time. |
| 14:55.48 | animimotus | giannis: do you speak rεbεlz ? |
| 14:56.08 | giannis | No |
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| 14:58.26 | Adrian_dlcspm | Hello. When I plug in removeable media, a KDE (?) window opens asking what I would like to do (Nothing, Open in new window, etc). But it doesn't seem to work for memory sticks (which I can mount manually). How do I get it to work with memory sticks? I seem to have no autorun.conf as mentioned by many sites. |
| 14:58.46 | eNTi | autorun.conf? |
| 14:59.05 | eNTi | Adrian_dlcspm: distro, version? |
| 14:59.19 | eNTi | hal started? |
| 14:59.37 | eNTi | in the right groups (like optical, storage, hal, ...) |
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| 15:00.18 | Adrian_dlcspm | eNTi, Fedora Core 5. KDE version, good question, <checking> |
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| 15:01.30 | Adrian_dlcspm | eNTi, KDE: 3.5.5-0.2.fc5 |
| 15:01.32 | Jejem | fc5 >.< |
| 15:01.56 | Adrian_dlcspm | Jejem, Ya, we're told to run for our target platform. |
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| 15:05.11 | eNTi | Adrian_dlcspm: what groups is your user in? is there maybe a usb/hal/storage/... group? |
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| 15:28.53 | Adrian_dlcspm | eNTI? Guess he left. Anyone else curious about what group the user is in? |
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| 15:34.18 | genjix | hi! |
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| 15:42.23 | bkudria | in the new ktorrent, how can i change which files i do or do not want to download? |
| 15:43.58 | Sho_ | bkudria: Load the "Info" plugin via the preferences dialog, then open the "Files" tab at the bottom of the window, and select/deselect files in the torrent |
| 15:43.58 | bram85 | bkudria: there should still appear a popup for that when loading the torrent |
| 15:44.27 | bkudria | bram85: well, i toggle when it is already running :) |
| 15:44.33 | bkudria | Sho_: info plugin. thanks |
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| 15:55.59 | nuonguy | I have a question about sessions |
| 15:56.08 | nuonguy | kwriter always starts when I log in |
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| 15:56.40 | nuonguy | I have a session that I have saved, and I always quit kwriter before I log out |
| 15:56.46 | nuonguy | but kwriter always starts up |
| 15:57.00 | nuonguy | I even removed my .kde/share/config/ksmserverrc file |
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| 15:57.04 | nuonguy | kwriter still starts up |
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| 16:00.02 | Adrian_dlcspm | Hello. When I plug in removeable media, a KDE (?) window opens asking what I would like to do (Nothing, Open in new window, etc). But it doesn't seem to work for memory sticks (which I can mount manually). How do I get it to work with memory sticks? I seem to have no autorun.conf as mentioned by many sites. KDE 3.5.5-0.2.fc5 on Fedora Core 5. |
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| 16:00.39 | akrus | hello, could someone tell me if it's possible to input special symbols from keyboard like it's ALT+0153 for (tm) in windows? |
| 16:00.41 | root_ | hi |
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| 16:04.46 | Mirrakor | akrus: ™ don't know if there is a special combination like ALT+xyza, for me it is Shift+AltGR+8 |
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| 16:05.08 | akrus | Mirrakor: :D |
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| 16:06.30 | root_ | how do i change my nickname? |
| 16:06.51 | lee_p | for KDE 3.5.6 >> I have a question about an "unsupported platform" in System Settings >> can any one help me?? |
| 16:06.53 | icwiener | Login as normal (non-root) user... |
| 16:07.03 | icwiener | Or type /nick NICKNAME ... |
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| 16:07.13 | Adrian_dlcspm | Or both :) |
| 16:07.19 | root_ | thanks |
| 16:07.21 | icwiener | better both. :) |
| 16:07.27 | root_ | nick STRETCH |
| 16:07.54 | Adrian_dlcspm | But IRC'ing as root is often said to be fairly dangerous. |
| 16:08.13 | bram85 | Adrian_dlcspm: not only IRC |
| 16:08.24 | Adrian_dlcspm | Ya, just this context was IRC is all. |
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| 16:10.29 | lee_p | No takers on an "Unsupported Platform" question??? |
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| 16:11.04 | yngwin | just ask the question |
| 16:11.07 | yngwin | dont ask to ask |
| 16:12.43 | lee_p | asking where the settings are in 3.5.6 to where i can add a distro to the supported distro list .. so that the question is not asked every time you want to make changes to the network settings |
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| 16:15.19 | wally345 | What antivirus tool do you recommend to use with kmail ? |
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| 16:17.27 | tuxick | wally345: you're joking? |
| 16:18.36 | wally345 | tuxick: Why, the kmail virus setup wizard say, he can not find one on my system |
| 16:18.44 | wally345 | tuxick: :) |
| 16:19.01 | Desintegr | wally345: only Linux installed on the system ? |
| 16:19.07 | tuxick | i didn't know kmail had been ported to windows |
| 16:19.31 | BP{k} | why does kmail complain that it can't find a virus? ;) |
| 16:19.54 | wally345 | tuxick: do you mean for linux is not necessary to protect against viri ? |
| 16:19.59 | icwiener | clamav shall be good server-side, but it likely works in kmail as well. I do not really see reason for an anti virus tool for a locally installed linux. |
| 16:20.24 | Adrian_dlcspm | tuxick, Well, there *has* been a Virus for LInux in the wild in the past. |
| 16:20.52 | icwiener | wally345: There is no practically important virus there for linux. Only some concept stuff that only works in very old systems or very rare circumstances. |
| 16:20.53 | tuxick | Adrian_dlcspm: oh yes, a couple of holes in redhat/linuxconf |
| 16:21.00 | tuxick | many holes in php stuff |
| 16:21.08 | tuxick | but mail viruses? when was last one? |
| 16:21.57 | wally345 | So, the KMAIl-wizard is a joke and not my question, right ? |
| 16:22.04 | tuxick | i wonder if clamav by default knows about 'linux viruses' at all |
| 16:22.20 | tuxick | wally345: i'm sure you saw it, just wondering why |
| 16:22.24 | icwiener | Well, it's not a joke, but you most likely won't need it. |
| 16:22.26 | wally345 | tuxick: ok, thank you |
| 16:22.47 | Adrian_dlcspm | tuxick, It might be useful for a Linux e-mail client viri checker to check files that you're sending to (possibly) Windows users. |
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| 16:23.31 | tuxick | well ye, but when would you be accidentally sending windows viruses to people? |
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| 16:24.26 | icwiener | It's also important in environments, where you use one profile for Linux and Windows boxes. You could receive a virus with kmail and then open it later in Windows. |
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| 16:25.00 | Adrian_dlcspm | tuxick, I mail stuff to myself (from Linux at work to win32 at home) all the time when I find interesting tid-bits. |
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| 16:35.14 | not_a_k | SerpensV: hadn't noticed that. thanks. |
| 16:35.21 | not_a_k | not my ideal solution, but it helps |
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| 16:50.28 | pvandewyngaerde | no commit digest yet ?? or is it on pause in this vacation ? |
| 16:50.44 | pvandewyngaerde | vacation = holliday |
| 16:52.35 | Sho_ | patience :-) |
| 16:52.44 | Sho_ | maybe Danny got lost on his way back from Akademy |
| 16:53.06 | pvandewyngaerde | i talked to him yesterday evening, but forgot to ask him about it |
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| 17:26.53 | jim__ | hi |
| 17:27.18 | jim__ | I need help, I am new to linux |
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| 17:27.36 | Skrot- | jim__: Just ask :) |
| 17:27.40 | Novell | how do I make ctrl+shift+unicode-code work in KDE ? =/ |
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| 17:28.41 | pinotree | jim__: please ask in the channel of your distro |
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| 17:41.37 | Zeti | hi |
| 17:41.44 | pvandewyngaerde | hi |
| 17:41.54 | Zeti | i installed kde-i18n but it doesn't show up in regions & accessibility |
| 17:42.19 | pvandewyngaerde | what distro / kde version ? |
| 17:42.27 | Zeti | gentoo / 3.5.5 |
| 17:43.14 | Zeti | (there isn't any newer I suppose) |
| 17:43.26 | pvandewyngaerde | 3.5.7 is latest |
| 17:43.52 | Zeti | at least not in emerge |
| 17:43.52 | Zeti | but anyway |
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| 17:43.53 | pvandewyngaerde | Zeti: do you see it when you run kpersonalizer ? |
| 17:44.01 | Zeti | as far as i understood it after installation the languages should show up automatically |
| 17:44.04 | Zeti | i'll try |
| 17:44.21 | Zeti | nope |
| 17:44.28 | Zeti | choose your language only gives me english |
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| 17:45.10 | Zeti | how are the translation files called? |
| 17:45.14 | pvandewyngaerde | Zeti: ask on your distro specific chan |
| 17:45.49 | Zeti | k |
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| 17:46.05 | pvandewyngaerde | you can look what files are in the package |
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| 17:58.49 | fannagoganna | hi, i am wondering how to remove a printer in KDE from my list of printers? |
| 17:59.03 | fannagoganna | using the kcontrol print model, if it is possible? |
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| 17:59.34 | mikkael | is the kde4 live cd of opensuse installable ? |
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| 18:00.18 | pvandewyngaerde | mikkael: can't you just try it ? |
| 18:00.57 | mikkael | im downloading the iso at the moment, just curious |
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| 18:01.53 | fannagoganna | hi, how do i remove printers using KDE from my CUPS server? |
| 18:02.10 | fannagoganna | is it possible to do this through the kcontrol kprinter module? |
| 18:02.24 | pvandewyngaerde | fannagoganna: i think that is something different |
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| 18:02.53 | fannagoganna | is it possible to remove printers through the kprinter kcontrol module? |
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| 18:03.54 | pvandewyngaerde | fannagoganna: i think you need to remove them in cupm themself |
| 18:04.06 | fannagoganna | ok then |
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| 18:17.40 | alejo | hello, someone can please help me with a session problem |
| 18:18.14 | kdepepo | eek, commit-digest site suffers from errors... no wonder there isnt my weekly update :) |
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| 18:20.28 | alejo | I accidentally started a parallel session with the same user and now i can see a gnome desktop behind my kde session (i use a semitransparent desktop on beryl) even if i logout or reboot and sometimes they swich places and then i can just control te gnome one |
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| 18:21.04 | alejo | does someone know how to solve this? |
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| 18:21.37 | kdepepo | remove all gnome packages :) |
| 18:21.44 | wolsni | alejo: kill the gnome stuff and save your session |
| 18:22.06 | RivaeAery | I have an idea for KDE4. In KDE, you can select how you want KDE to behave, for example like mac, or windows, or just KDE. What if you could also make it LOOK like that? you select mac, it automagically makes it mac-like and all the keyboard shortcuts from mac etc |
| 18:22.10 | wolsni | the process for the gnome desktop was "nautilus" last I checked |
| 18:22.22 | alejo | ok but i dont have a session manager would someone recomend me one plz |
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| 18:22.44 | wolsni | RivaeAery: this isn't really the place for that, feature requests should go to bugs.kde.org |
| 18:22.54 | alejo | ok |
| 18:22.56 | wolsni | alejo: KDE has a session manager |
| 18:23.04 | RivaeAery | wolsni: ok |
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| 18:23.11 | alejo | im on sabayon and i dont see any |
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| 18:23.25 | Earthnail | Hey guys |
| 18:23.32 | wolsni | alejo: should be in kcontrol under KDE Components |
| 18:23.54 | Earthnail | I've deactivated all kontact modules except kmail, kadressbook and akregator |
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| 18:24.44 | Earthnail | However, everytime I start KDE, the korganizer reminder module starts aswell, even though I choose on exit not to start it again automaticolly on next login. |
| 18:24.51 | roxy_ | I surf the web at work and want to find a site I went to. I am at home now, I only have a ssh access without X. I am using konqueror. Is there a way to read the history file ? |
| 18:24.54 | Earthnail | Any way to switch it off? |
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| 18:25.56 | wolsni | Earthnail: with the reminder tray applet closed, save your session |
| 18:25.59 | wolsni | i think |
| 18:26.02 | neddy | how do I tell kmail not to open all the "Shared Folders" when I press the M key to move messages to a folder? |
| 18:26.08 | Earthnail | wolsni: doesn't work. starts again |
| 18:26.15 | neddy | kmails opens every folder |
| 18:26.15 | Earthnail | maybe it has to do with some weird beagle backend |
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| 18:28.51 | RivaeAery | wolsni: i do want to submit that feature request but i don't want to fill in my real name. |
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| 18:29.40 | wolsni | RivaeAery: you can put whatever name you want but the email address must be valid, i think |
| 18:29.48 | RivaeAery | alright |
| 18:29.52 | RivaeAery | i'll just do my front name |
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| 18:31.37 | Drakeson | How can I annotate pdfs? Is there anything for this planned (or available)? |
| 18:32.37 | kdepepo | Drakeson, okular (in the works) |
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| 18:34.04 | Drakeson | is it in a [partly] usable state? |
| 18:34.20 | pinotree | it is |
| 18:34.26 | pinotree | ← maintainer |
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| 18:35.48 | Drakeson | what version of poppler I need for it? |
| 18:35.48 | Sjord | How do I configure how Alt-Tab behaves under KDE? |
| 18:36.31 | pinotree | >= 0.5.4 |
| 18:36.32 | RivaeAery | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147714 |
| 18:36.37 | RivaeAery | wolsni: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147714 |
| 18:36.45 | pinotree | HEAD is supported as well |
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| 18:38.36 | Drakeson | pinotree: I have 0.5.4-6 (debian). Do you recommend using the cvs version or this one is fine? (Has the annotation part changed much since 0.5.4?) |
| 18:39.04 | pinotree | this one is fine for the annotations |
| 18:39.09 | Drakeson | thanks |
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| 18:40.43 | toad_ | why does kmail crash and/or hang constantly? is it a problem with kmail or a problem with my copy of kmail? |
| 18:41.28 | ccc | Sjord: it doesn't behave right? |
| 18:42.03 | Sjord | ccc: No, I want it to go back and forth instead of only going forwards. |
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| 18:42.15 | [GALAXY] | passed my brown belt exam for shotokan karate today. |
| 18:42.45 | Earthnail | [GALAXY]: congrats! |
| 18:43.07 | Sjord | ccc: When you press Alt-Tab twice in Windows, you are back where you started. I want that. |
| 18:43.59 | Jejem | Sjord: with 5 windows, it's false ;) |
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| 18:44.53 | Sjord | Jejem: I don't understand. |
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| 18:45.33 | Sjord | Jejem: I am using 5 windows. I mean Alt-Tab <Release> Alt-Tab, Not Alt-Tab-Tab. |
| 18:45.46 | ccc | Sjord: tapping tab switches back and forth for me. can't find the setting though. |
| 18:45.50 | Jejem | not the same thing there :) |
| 18:46.57 | Sjord | Here Alt-Tab goes to the next window, so you have to do Alt-tab five times to get the same window you started with. |
| 18:47.03 | pinotree | no |
| 18:47.12 | pinotree | Alt-Shift-Tab goes backward |
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| 18:47.30 | CuBe0wL | yo all |
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| 18:48.29 | CuBe0wL | I've unfortunately disabled my two interfaces in kwlan |
| 18:48.43 | CuBe0wL | I can't configure them anymore |
| 18:48.55 | CuBe0wL | how to reenable them? |
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| 19:23.42 | CuBe0wL | re |
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| 19:24.11 | CuBe0wL | does anybody know how can I remove an app and all it's configuration files? |
| 19:24.37 | firedrops | it really dependes on your distro |
| 19:24.40 | firedrops | check #distroname |
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| 19:25.53 | CuBe0wL | ok, it's a bit more kde related |
| 19:26.03 | CuBe0wL | I'm still stuck with this kwlan |
| 19:26.15 | CuBe0wL | a few minutes ago I've asked about it |
| 19:26.23 | firedrops | lol it's an app like the others |
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| 19:26.51 | CuBe0wL | yes it is, but no matter how do I remove it, the settings remain |
| 19:27.05 | CuBe0wL | I still can't configure any of my interfaces |
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| 19:27.08 | Skrot- | CuBe0wL: Check if you've got a directory ~/.kde/share/apps/kwlan |
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| 19:27.43 | CuBe0wL | Skrot-, no kwlan in ~/.kde/share/apps/ |
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| 19:27.54 | Sho_ | ~/.kde/share/apps/<appname> and ~/.kde/share/config/<appname>rc are the canonical local app data locations |
| 19:27.55 | apt | Sho_: that's too long |
| 19:28.08 | Sho_ | But an app that modifies system-level settings might leave traces elsewhere |
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| 19:29.40 | CuBe0wL | it was the "monitor interfaces" button and "configure interfaces button" s that I dumbly turned off |
| 19:29.45 | CuBe0wL | now none of them appear |
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| 19:30.26 | CuBe0wL | yay!!4 |
| 19:30.35 | CuBe0wL | found the configuration files |
| 19:30.46 | CuBe0wL | thx Sho_ |
| 19:31.34 | Skrot- | Unless you've got the app still installed, the config files in ~/.kde/* won't matter though.. |
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| 19:31.46 | Skrot- | That's just data read by the app |
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| 19:33.05 | CuBe0wL | it's ok now |
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| 19:58.47 | Zal | hi |
| 19:58.55 | PhilRod | hi Zal |
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| 20:00.02 | Zal | I was merrily computing along, when my "Run Command" dialog suddenly began starting in a minized state. I think I must have fumble-fingered some setting to cause this, but I cannot find which one. Anyone have a suggestion for getting my Run Command dialog to start in a visible window again? |
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| 20:01.20 | PhilRod | Zal: click on the window menu on it -> "configure window behaviour" |
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| 20:01.35 | PhilRod | you might have set something there |
| 20:01.38 | Zal | PhilRod right, found that, but nothing is checked, and all seems to be in a default state |
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| 20:03.49 | Zal | I even tried explicitly selecting 'minimized "Do Not Effect" ', but this did not change the startup behavior |
| 20:04.07 | PhilRod | Zal: are you perhaps running any non-kde desktop components like beryl/compiz/whatever it's called this week? |
| 20:04.55 | Zal | nope, all vanilla Xorg 7.2. Nothing added or removed since the window behavior changed this morning (it was working normally until about an hour ago) |
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| 20:05.51 | PhilRod | is there anything in control center -> desktop -> window-specific settings |
| 20:05.52 | PhilRod | ? |
| 20:05.57 | Zal | checking |
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| 20:06.39 | Zal | Yes, I have an entry for "Window settings for kdesktop" and one for "(Default) Disable focus stealing prevention for XV" |
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| 20:08.45 | PhilRod | is it definitely starting minimized, or is it just getting sent behind other windows? |
| 20:09.27 | Zal | I press Alt-F2, and it immediately shows up in the taskbar, even on an otherwise empty desktop. |
| 20:10.38 | Zal | And clicking on the taskbar button for the Run Command dialog indicates that it is in fact "Minimized" |
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| 20:11.52 | PhilRod | Zal: hrm |
| 20:12.16 | PhilRod | You could try renaming the kdesktop and/or kwin config files to see if the behaviour changes back |
| 20:12.30 | Adrian_dlcspm | Hello. When I plug in removeable media, a KDE window opens asking what I would like to do (Nothing, Open in new window, etc). But it doesn't seem to work for memory sticks (which I can mount manually). How do I get it to work with memory sticks? KDE 3.5.5-0.2.fc5 on Fedora Core 5. |
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| 20:12.47 | Zal | indeed. This actually happened to me once before, a couple of years/versions ago. I vaguely remember editing a config file, but haven't yet found the right one. |
| 20:12.53 | Zal | PhilRod I'll check those two, thanks |
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| 20:16.06 | GionnyBoss | I have just installed Fedora 7 with KDE on my laptop, and I noticed that on my laptop the KMenu is well organized, while on my desktop computer, I miss an Administration menu. I don't know why... is there a way to restore a default menu, or something like this, please? |
| 20:16.24 | GionnyBoss | I was first using GNOME on my desktop and maybe this is the problem... |
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| 20:17.20 | GionnyBoss | my KMenu it is a mess... not as well organized as the one on my laptop... but I have the same distro and the same KDE version |
| 20:17.32 | Bille | GionnyBoss: kde itself doesn't have many admin programs |
| 20:17.42 | Bille | but they are usually in the System folder |
| 20:17.47 | GionnyBoss | Bille, yes I noticed that |
| 20:18.00 | Bille | it's usually up to the distro to add their own tools to the menu |
| 20:18.12 | GionnyBoss | Bille, but starting Fedora 7 for the first time in KDE on my laptop, gave me a good menu |
| 20:18.13 | Bille | i don't know why your menu is messed up |
| 20:18.21 | Bille | but you can revert it to the system copy if you want |
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| 20:18.41 | GionnyBoss | Bille, probably on my desktop, where I used GNOME before, did some mess and this is due probably to the way my distro handles the menu |
| 20:19.04 | GionnyBoss | Bille, how can I do that? And will I loose all the apps that I installed in the menu? |
| 20:19.28 | Bille | GionnyBoss: mv ~/.kde/share/applnk/ ~ |
| 20:19.42 | Bille | that just moves the menu structure aside |
| 20:19.57 | GionnyBoss | Bille, ok, so if there is a problem, I can restore it, I guess... right? |
| 20:20.05 | Bille | the apps are still there, but your customisations to the menu will be removed |
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| 20:20.21 | Bille | GionnyBoss: yeah, to restore, mv ~/applnk ~/.kde/share |
| 20:20.28 | GionnyBoss | yes of course |
| 20:20.33 | GionnyBoss | Bille, thanks, let me try that |
| 20:20.47 | Bille | GionnyBoss: you might need to do "dcop kicker Panel restart" to get it to notice the changes |
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| 20:21.34 | GionnyBoss | Bille, it didn't do the trick... |
| 20:21.46 | GionnyBoss | Bille, the directory was empty |
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| 20:22.19 | PhilRod | GionnyBoss: you want ~/.config/menus I thin |
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| 20:22.26 | PhilRod | s/thin/think/ |
| 20:22.46 | GionnyBoss | PhilRod, let me try that, thank you |
| 20:22.52 | Bille | PhilRod: bah, i forgot about local xdg menus |
| 20:22.59 | GionnyBoss | it is empty, too |
| 20:23.19 | GionnyBoss | I think there's something in my distro that did not went good |
| 20:23.25 | GionnyBoss | probably it is more a #fedora problem |
| 20:23.45 | GionnyBoss | well, I guess I can live with this :P |
| 20:23.58 | GionnyBoss | another thing... |
| 20:24.12 | GionnyBoss | on my laptop I have 2 system trays icons. KLaptop and KPowerSave |
| 20:24.14 | Novell | can I with kiosk restrict a user to only be able to access ~/ and /media ? I only found an option to restrict it to home, but I need the user to be able to access /media too |
| 20:24.21 | GionnyBoss | if I try to configure KPowerSave, it always crashes |
| 20:24.46 | GionnyBoss | I disabled suspend, hybernate and all this stuff in KLaptop because I don't like them, I just have screen power saving |
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| 20:26.01 | Bille | Novell: ask on the kde-kiosk list: http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/ |
| 20:26.21 | GionnyBoss | is there a way to disable KPowerSave at KDE start? If it is only for suspend / hybernate, I can just disable it and keep only KLaptop that turns off my computer when battery level is down |
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| 20:27.01 | Novell | Bille: hoped I would find someone on IRC for a fast reply so I can set and forget :) |
| 20:27.36 | Bille | Novell: TAANSTAAFL ;) |
| 20:27.56 | pinotree | Bille: eeeh? o.O |
| 20:27.57 | Novell | ? :) |
| 20:27.59 | Bille | you might still get lucky, but if you don't, try the list |
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| 20:30.41 | root__ | hi how do i change my ip |
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| 20:32.01 | MidnightDevil | with ur hands |
| 20:32.26 | chelovekpaket | Stretch: it depends |
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| 20:33.50 | swanfl | is there a demo somewhere of kde 4 alpha 2? |
| 20:34.33 | [GALAXY] | yes |
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| 20:34.45 | pinotree | swanfl: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
| 20:35.01 | PhilRod | swanfl: lots of individual videos linked from people's blogs on planetkde. See also dot.kde.org, and I'm told there are videos on youtube |
| 20:35.10 | PhilRod | Stretch: best to ask in #yourdistro |
| 20:35.25 | swanfl | cool |
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| 20:40.14 | Zal | PhilRod kdesktoprc was the culprit, with lines like: History=kcontrol,gg: kde run command starts minimized, ...". Shutting down KDE, removing those lines, and restarting solved the problem. (If anyone has any clue how that line got in there, please enlighten me!). Thanks for your help. |
| 20:41.21 | kaiser | can someone help me knetworkmanager no longer will connect to wireless |
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| 20:41.51 | [GALAXY] | kaiser: you switched to linux kernel 2.6.22 ? |
| 20:42.20 | PhilRod | Zal: that history line looks reasonable, but if it fixes your problem, then cool :-) |
| 20:42.49 | Zal | PhilRod well, the "starts minimized" was the problem. It's reasonable, but not the behavior I desired. |
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| 20:43.37 | Zal | (though I'm at a loss to imagine a situation where someone would *want* the Run Command dialog to start minimized ;-) |
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| 20:45.40 | Zal | PhilRod perhaps I wasn't clear -- there were other lines as well under the [MiniCli] section that contained the phrase "run command starts minimized" besides the one "history" line I pasted. |
| 20:45.59 | Zal | I'm not sure which was causing it to start minimized; I removed them all |
| 20:46.30 | kaiser | yes |
| 20:46.45 | kaiser | i had it working good then it just stopped working |
| 20:46.53 | kaiser | i have an intel 3945 |
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| 21:06.38 | om | does anyone know about this error? it appears a box everytime i open an application.. "could not find mime type" "application/octet-stream" |
| 21:07.31 | PhilRod | om: if ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/application/octet-stream.desktop exists, delete it then run "kbuildsycoca" |
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| 21:24.28 | Zamber | hhi folks I have a problem (ubuntu 7.04 with kubuntu-destop installed later) ksmserver says that there is no option --replace and shutdowns itself, so I can't run kde. How to fix it? |
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| 21:26.06 | Zamber | I couldn't google out anything about this issue ;/ |
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| 21:31.04 | Zamber | I recall installink compiz fusion (there was a line that editied one env var, so it looks like that's the problem ;) |
| 21:31.09 | Zamber | gotta find that tutorial |
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| 21:31.46 | Zamber | ha I have it! :D |
| 21:32.01 | Zamber | We are going to add compiz as the KDE Window Manager. |
| 21:32.02 | Zamber | # nano -w /etc/env.d/99kde-env |
| 21:32.02 | Zamber | Change: |
| 21:32.02 | Zamber | KDEWM=kwin to KDEWM="compiz --replace ccp --sm-disable" |
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| 21:32.48 | Zamber | but for ubuntu it was /etc/environment |
| 21:33.33 | Zamber | brb, gotta see if it works |
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| 21:37.32 | nuxil | how can i extract a *skz file "superkaramba file" |
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| 21:37.54 | Zamber | worked ^^ |
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| 21:38.26 | nuxil | i mean the stuff inside the file.. not from a tar.gz file. |
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| 21:39.07 | PhilRod | nuxil: it's probably just a tarball, so I expect you can use 'tar' on it |
| 21:39.20 | pinotree | (or a zip) |
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| 21:39.33 | PhilRod | oh yeah, that too |
| 21:40.25 | PhilRod | nuxil: you can use 'file' on it, or rename it to have no extension, then look at it in konqueror. Both of those should tell you what file type it really is |
| 21:41.26 | Zamber | is there a way to switch konqueror with dolphin? |
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| 21:42.56 | AmyRose | Zamber: Why would anyone want to use KNautilus? :P |
| 21:43.19 | PhilRod | Zamber: hrm, I thought there was a setting in control center -> kde components -> component chooser, but it seems not |
| 21:43.53 | PhilRod | so I suppose the answer is "when you're going to use konqueror for file browsing, use dolphin instead" |
| 21:43.55 | Zamber | AmyRose I find it find it more useful :P |
| 21:44.11 | AmyRose | Zamber: It looks like a Nautilus clone to me |
| 21:44.11 | litb | how can i set up that when i press ctrl+alt+E , then emacs is activated/deactivated by KHotkeys? |
| 21:44.24 | litb | ah, nevermind |
| 21:44.31 | Kyral | Holy...**** its hot... |
| 21:44.32 | PhilRod | litb: dunno about "deactivated", but for activated, use kmenuedit |
| 21:45.03 | Zamber | AmyRose it will be the default file browser in kde4 (or if I recall right there will be a way to choose witch you want) |
| 21:45.33 | AmyRose | Will the kfmclient utility be available in KDE4? I like using that for non-KDE apps--I have most protocols on Opera set to run "kfmclient exec" for example |
| 21:45.49 | Zamber | AmyRose I was using gnome for about 9 months, just switched back to kde yesterday :P |
| 21:46.02 | AmyRose | Zamber: That would explain it =P |
| 21:46.18 | AmyRose | I like kfmclient because it's a nice easy way to get non-kde apps to "honor" KDE's settings |
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| 21:47.56 | Zamber | AmyRose I like gnome but it's to sluggish for me :P |
| 21:48.08 | Zamber | recently I was working on fluxbox |
| 21:48.12 | AmyRose | Zamber: Thank goodness I'm not the only person who has seen that |
| 21:48.35 | AmyRose | Every GNOME lover I've ever talked to says GNOME could not possibly be slower than KDE. |
| 21:48.38 | Zamber | but it lacks a lot things (even if you pimp it_ |
| 21:48.49 | PhilRod | AmyRose: I imagine kfmclient will remain, for exactly the reason you mention |
| 21:49.15 | AmyRose | PhilRod: OK. I just love being able to just set everything to "kfmclient exec" on Opera/Firefox :P |
| 21:49.19 | PhilRod | in fact, it's stayed around since the days of kfm (konqui's predecessor), so it has proven longevity :-) |
| 21:49.31 | AmyRose | hahaha |
| 21:49.33 | Zamber | AmyRose I'm a Linux lover, environmets are below that |
| 21:49.38 | AmyRose | Zamber: Huh? |
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| 21:49.51 | AmyRose | I've been using Linux alone for 3½ years now =P |
| 21:50.02 | Kyral | Frickin....hot out |
| 21:50.29 | AmyRose | seems like /weather isn't working... |
| 21:50.42 | Zamber | kde, gnome and any other graphical environment are on the same level for me |
| 21:50.55 | Kyral | http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Potsdam.+NY#SEW |
| 21:51.01 | nuxil | PhilRod, im getting error it will not use tar to open.. i also tryed using arc -x |
| 21:51.14 | Zamber | every one of them lacks some functionality |
| 21:51.15 | PhilRod | nuxil: what does file say? |
| 21:51.31 | nuxil | An entry in /home/nuxil/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/46458-skfortune.tar has a bad header. |
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| 21:51.33 | AmyRose | Zamber: But that's what the terminal is for :P |
| 21:51.36 | nuxil | thats with arc |
| 21:52.03 | PhilRod | nuxil: what about "file 46458-skfortune.tar"? |
| 21:52.19 | AmyRose | Zamber: I know we can't expect everybody to use the terminal, but it's still nice to have it |
| 21:52.23 | Zamber | AmyRose I use my beloved terminal only on crashes :P (or if something goes wrong :P) |
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| 21:52.54 | nuxil | PhilRod, what you mean? |
| 21:53.00 | Zamber | AmyRose I saw a quite nice list of must-have terminal apps for newbies |
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| 21:53.01 | AmyRose | Zamber: hahaha... I have to admit to using the terminal on a daily basis |
| 21:53.17 | nuxil | 46458-skfortune.tar: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract |
| 21:53.20 | PhilRod | nuxil: go into a konsole and run "file 46458-skfortune.tar" (without the quotes) |
| 21:53.21 | nuxil | that? |
| 21:53.24 | PhilRod | yes |
| 21:53.29 | PhilRod | that tells you it's a zip file |
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| 21:53.34 | PhilRod | so pinotree was right |
| 21:53.38 | Zamber | AmyRose I'm talking about the default terminal (with no X server running) |
| 21:53.39 | AmyRose | Zamber: It's just easier for a lot of things, especially when doing quick package management. |
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| 21:54.09 | Zamber | tilda and yakuake are also in daily use for me :P |
| 21:54.12 | AmyRose | Zamber: Oh, sorry. |
| 21:54.28 | AmyRose | Zamber: What's missing in KDE? :3 |
| 21:54.28 | Sho_ | Zamber: Which do you like better? :) |
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| 21:55.51 | Zamber | Sho_ I can't answer that. I love all of them and I feel free on any of them, so what is the point of liking one of them more? |
| 21:56.01 | nuxil | PhilRod, thank you verry much |
| 21:56.07 | Sho_ | Zamber: Just curious, I'm Yakuake's maintainer :) |
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| 21:57.01 | Zamber | Sho_ great! can you help me in one thing? I cant get fake transparency to work for new tabs :P |
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| 21:57.42 | Sho_ | Zamber: After changing the color scheme to a translucent one you need to click "Save as default" in the context menu |
| 21:58.17 | Zamber | Sho_ I did so and it's still working that way |
| 21:58.36 | Sho_ | Zamber: "that way" being? |
| 21:59.04 | Zamber | the 1st console is transparent, the second one is not |
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| 22:00.18 | Sho_ | Zamber: Sorry, if you've "Saved as default" I can't imagine why that would happen (notably the entire menu and color scheme handling is provided by the Konsole KPart component which Yakuake embeds, I have no control over it) |
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| 22:00.38 | Zamber | Sho_ take a look: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5589/yaquakems4.jpg |
| 22:01.15 | Zamber | AmyRose KDE in Ubuntu (kubuntu that is) lacks some things |
| 22:01.31 | Zamber | the default desktop is not so nifty like the gnome one |
| 22:01.40 | Sho_ | Zamber: Well, it does work fine here I'm afraid ... |
| 22:02.08 | AmyRose | Zamber: sudo apt-get install kde |
| 22:02.35 | AmyRose | It's the first thing I do after installing Kubuntu |
| 22:03.06 | Zamber | wow |
| 22:03.11 | Zamber | cool :> |
| 22:03.22 | AmyRose | Yeah, that gives you the whole enchilada |
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| 22:04.31 | AmyRose | Zamber: They probably couldn't fit the whole KDE installation on a single Live CD... |
| 22:04.57 | AmyRose | I like to have the whole thing, though, so I install that metapackage |
| 22:05.43 | Zamber | AmyRose that should be included in the manual clearly :P |
| 22:05.52 | AmyRose | Zamber: It's in the wiki |
| 22:05.56 | Zamber | AmyRose what do we have DVDs for? :P |
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| 22:06.06 | AmyRose | Zamber: Dunno... |
| 22:06.27 | AmyRose | Zamber: Most of the packages seem to be in the Universe though |
| 22:07.32 | AmyRose | Zamber: I wanted to ask though--where did you get that icon theme? |
| 22:07.48 | Zamber | kde-look or so |
| 22:07.49 | Zamber | one sec |
| 22:07.58 | Zamber | I'll give you the name :> |
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| 22:08.26 | AlexElliott | That's the new crystal theme isn't it? Everaldo |
| 22:08.35 | Zamber | Crystal Project |
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| 22:08.39 | Zamber | right ;) |
| 22:09.00 | AmyRose | Those look like the KDE4 Oxygen theme |
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| 22:09.20 | Zamber | maybe it's included :> |
| 22:09.47 | AlexElliott | They aren't the same, you might be able to compare them though. |
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| 22:10.25 | AlexElliott | They've both glossed up the KDE logo for example, but you can still tell they are different icons if you look at the respective large versions |
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| 22:10.58 | Zamber | AlexElliott so witch is better ;x? |
| 22:11.22 | AlexElliott | Couldn't say, I've not used the Oxygen theme on a working system. |
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| 22:13.14 | Zamber | pitty |
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| 22:14.00 | Zamber | Sho_ one more thing! I cant get a working keyboard shortcut for coping text |
| 22:14.10 | Zamber | I know how I can change them |
| 22:14.20 | Zamber | bot coping is not reacting ;/ |
| 22:14.35 | Zamber | tilda f. eg. has it implemented right |
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| 22:17.29 | AmyRose | Zamber: XChat and Pidgin user? :P |
| 22:17.34 | Zamber | yep |
| 22:17.46 | Zamber | I don't like Kopete |
| 22:17.49 | AmyRose | I hate Pidgin nowq |
| 22:17.50 | AmyRose | now* |
| 22:17.55 | Zamber | why? |
| 22:18.08 | AmyRose | They keep removing features for the sake of removing features. |
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| 22:18.17 | kpzzz | Does anyone know whether mailody (not an official kde app?) will be rewritten to work with Akonadi or will it stay with the evolution one? |
| 22:18.34 | Zamber | AmyRose lol |
| 22:18.39 | Zamber | what was removed? |
| 22:18.56 | Zamber | if you want some info :P : Host 'rtfm', running Linux 2.6.20-15-generic - Cpu0: AMD Athlon 1920 MHz; Up: 42 min; Users: 1; Load: 0.53; Free: [Mem: 150/1012 Mio] [Swap: 1639/1639 Mio] [/: 11679/60525 Mio] [/mnt/hdb1: 2144/49222 Mio] [/mnt/hdb5: 5389/38868 Mio]; Vpenis: 67.3 cm; |
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| 22:19.11 | pinotree | kpzzz: ? |
| 22:19.24 | AmyRose | Zamber: You used to be able to do a bunch of protocol-specific actions, like setting your status to "Out to lunch" on MSN and "Away" on AIM |
| 22:19.56 | AmyRose | Zamber: Now you can only choose from Offline, Online, Away, and Invisible, and your choice affects everything |
| 22:20.01 | kpzzz | pinotree: http://www.mailody.net/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 |
| 22:20.23 | Zamber | AmyRose it's not affecting me, I use jabber and gadu-gadu (a polish im) only :> |
| 22:20.30 | pinotree | kpzzz: join #mailody |
| 22:20.34 | kpzzz | k |
| 22:20.46 | AmyRose | Zamber: Also, they replaced all the protocol status icons with traffic lights :P |
| 22:21.24 | AmyRose | Zamber: I'm ½ Polish but in the US :D |
| 22:21.26 | Zamber | AmyRose it also fits me :P becouse I hate that stupid gg sun for representing status :P |
| 22:21.42 | Zamber | :> |
| 22:22.08 | AmyRose | Zamber: Well, I'm also a Jabber user XD |
| 22:22.22 | AmyRose | Kopete seems to have better Jabber support than Pidgin, honestly. |
| 22:22.43 | straw | horsetwaddle |
| 22:23.01 | straw | i prefer Pidgin these days myself |
| 22:23.09 | Zamber | AmyRose even if Pidgin is not lacking any key features for me ;x |
| 22:23.35 | pinotree | hey nhnFreespirit :) |
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| 22:24.00 | pinotree | +22 |
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| 22:24.13 | pinotree | err... irc is not kcalc ;) |
| 22:24.20 | AmyRose | Zamber: Well, actually, I like to have the advanced features available to me, not thrown out because AIM doesn't support them :P |
| 22:24.33 | AmyRose | pinotree: I prefer qalculate-kde :D |
| 22:24.56 | pinotree | AmyRose: i actually prefer $anything than my fingers :D |
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| 22:25.34 | MinceR | i prefer command-line qalc :> |
| 22:26.04 | straw | i prefer no mathematics whatsoever |
| 22:26.18 | AmyRose | pinotree: I often use Katapult's calculator feature too |
| 22:26.41 | pinotree | AmyRose: alt+f2 can do the same :> |
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| 22:26.59 | AmyRose | pinotree: Wow, I never knew that! |
| 22:27.31 | AmyRose | I never knew I could use the Run dialog as a calculator |
| 22:27.46 | icwiener_ | minicli did some very weird rounding to me once so I never used it again. :) |
| 22:27.56 | Zamber | I use python for a calc :P |
| 22:28.05 | icwiener_ | I pugs. :D |
| 22:28.28 | icwiener_ | But pugs is the future python anyway. :) |
| 22:29.09 | Zamber | lol: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.python.org.za%2Fpugs&ei=o7aSRu6fCZWQnQOLhtnRCg&usg=AFQjCNH8fksL_B897D3CxL0XlGVOeLaNgw&sig2=kPoQKTzvmMZxFdLgdZ2R1A |
| 22:29.10 | MinceR | the run dialog doesn't seem to do it for me |
| 22:29.13 | Zamber | sry |
| 22:29.25 | Zamber | www.python.org.za/pugs that is :P |
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| 22:30.51 | icwiener_ | Zamber: http://www.pugscode.org/ ... If it's ready the python guys want to use it as well. |
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| 22:31.41 | AmyRose | Current weather for Waukesha, Waukesha County Airport : Broken clouds at 1000 feet, Temperature: 73.4°F, Pressure: 29.85" Hg, Wind: 4 MPH ENE |
| 22:32.04 | AmyRose | I guess I do need to have Kontact running... |
| 22:33.03 | Zamber | AmyRose did you know that USA is the last country on earth that is not using metric measure? |
| 22:33.11 | AmyRose | yeah |
| 22:33.26 | AmyRose | We do actually use it for some things, but not for most |
| 22:33.38 | AmyRose | Our medicine is measured in milligrams, for example |
| 22:33.50 | AmyRose | so are our nutrition labels |
| 22:33.58 | firedrops | lol 1 pound of epinefrine |
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| 22:46.02 | AmyRose | Zamber: Did you use this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/show.php?content=61556 |
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| 22:47.39 | Zamber | AmyRose no, I compiled it from Everaldos packades |
| 22:48.20 | AmyRose | Zamber: Everaldo created the Crystal icons, which are the defaults in KDE 3.x |
| 22:49.33 | Zamber | AmyRose And he created Crystal Project icons too ;> |
| 22:49.33 | AmyRose | Zamber: Uh... yeah... |
| 22:49.33 | Zamber | http://everaldo.com/crystal/ |
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| 22:49.35 | AmyRose | Zamber: I know that. But you have the *Oxygen* icons, not the Crystal ones. |
| 22:50.15 | Zamber | nah, I have Crystal Project |
| 22:50.33 | AmyRose | *sigh* Whatever... |
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| 22:51.17 | AmyRose | Well, whoever wants the Oxygen icons can get a converter for them here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/show.php?content=61556 |
| 22:51.37 | AmyRose | I love 'em so far |
| 22:51.45 | Zamber | http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4945/everalxt7.jpg :P |
| 22:51.50 | Zamber | will look |
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| 22:52.23 | AmyRose | oh, I gotcha, Zamber |
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| 22:52.38 | AmyRose | yeah, the icons look different from the ones I just installed |
| 22:53.16 | AmyRose | my mistake, Zamber ^^; |
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| 22:53.30 | Zamber | ^^ |
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| 22:53.32 | AmyRose | lol |
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| 22:53.49 | Zamber | netsplit FTW :D |
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| 22:53.56 | Zamber | log log log log! |
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| 23:08.17 | AmyRose | Ah, there we go |
| 23:08.38 | AmyRose | I logged out and back in to make sure everything would use the new icons |
| 23:09.14 | Zamber | :> |
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| 23:09.38 | AmyRose | I like Kopete's new icon, but not the one for Konversation |
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| 23:11.32 | clouder | Hi |
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| 23:21.13 | clouder | If anyone has time to look at this and give me a shout back, I´d appreciate it. http://rafb.net/p/DzShzs91.html |
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| 23:23.20 | deadsouls | is anyone here using kmail with firefox? i've setup using kmail as the default client, but if i choose "send link..." it just opens a blank email template. has anyone fixed this? |
| 23:23.46 | pinotree | deadsouls: #firefox please |
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| 23:24.26 | deadsouls | i don't see why it's off-topic here |
| 23:24.34 | deadsouls | in fact, i've asked in both channels |
| 23:24.45 | deadsouls | if you don't know the answer, feel free to ignore it |
| 23:24.49 | pinotree | i don't see how configuring firefox is on-topic |
| 23:25.01 | deadsouls | configuring firefox for kmail is on-topic |
| 23:25.05 | pinotree | no |
| 23:25.25 | pinotree | is firefox a kde application? |
| 23:25.32 | deadsouls | kmail is |
| 23:25.38 | pinotree | and??? |
| 23:25.45 | deadsouls | therefore it's relevant |
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| 23:25.50 | pinotree | no |
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| 23:25.59 | pinotree | we care about konqueror, NOT firefox |
| 23:26.30 | deadsouls | i care about kmail |
| 23:26.52 | pinotree | *sigh* |
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| 23:27.56 | espen | anyone know if this has been done before: A taskbar which sizes the items by the time past since the running application was activated. (The application not used in an hour is smaller and takes less space than the ones used the last 20 minutes). I'm thinking about creating a prototype for this. |
| 23:28.08 | AmyRose | deadsouls: Firefox 3.0a6 opens mailto links in KMail for me |
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| 23:28.19 | AmyRose | deadsouls: maybe you could either use that or wait |
| 23:28.27 | deadsouls | hmm haven't tried it yet |
| 23:28.34 | deadsouls | are there any caveats to using 3.0a? |
| 23:28.45 | AmyRose | deadsouls: Drawing glitches, mostly... |
| 23:28.59 | deadsouls | oh not mailto |
| 23:29.09 | deadsouls | i'm talking about the "Send link..." function |
| 23:29.22 | dcorbin | I have an audio problem. Something is clearly listening on my microphone input and playing out my speakers. I can hear it. But I cannot figure out what is doing it. Ideas? |
| 23:29.28 | AmyRose | deadsouls: Uh... it uses the mailto setting |
| 23:29.34 | Nate_Grey | x_link |
| 23:29.46 | AmyRose | deadsouls: The main caveat is if you want to import and export bookmarks using Konq's bookmark editor, you have to delete places.sqlite |
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| 23:30.35 | AmyRose | deadsouls: It uses that for performance apparently, but it rebuilds it using bookmarks.html if you delete it, and when you bookmark new pages, it will also put them in bookmarks.html |
| 23:30.38 | deadsouls | AmyRose, so when you click "Send link..." does it open a new mail with the link in the body |
| 23:30.49 | AmyRose | deadsouls: Let me check to be sure |
| 23:30.58 | AmyRose | deadsouls: I have no problem helping people with Firefox |
| 23:31.02 | AmyRose | ;) |
| 23:31.12 | deadsouls | i've noticed :) |
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| 23:31.29 | AmyRose | deadsouls: Yup. :D |
| 23:31.34 | AmyRose | It does |
| 23:31.41 | deadsouls | hmm mine does not |
| 23:31.52 | AmyRose | well, it opened KMail's composer window |
| 23:31.59 | deadsouls | and the link is in the body? |
| 23:32.21 | deadsouls | mailto works for me, but not send link |
| 23:32.27 | AmyRose | deadsouls: This should help you out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE |
| 23:32.32 | deadsouls | already did that |
| 23:32.36 | deadsouls | that's how i got this working |
| 23:32.40 | AmyRose | Oh, ok |
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| 23:32.58 | AmyRose | deadsouls: well, then, I guess you just have to wait or upgrade to 3.0a6 |
| 23:33.12 | deadsouls | when you clicked "Send link" did it just open a composer window AND it has the URL of the link in the body of the email? |
| 23:33.23 | AmyRose | Actually, I don't think so |
| 23:33.24 | AmyRose | heh |
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| 23:33.26 | pcbshelp | hey wassup all |
| 23:33.29 | deadsouls | see that's my problem |
| 23:33.48 | AmyRose | deadsouls: I never use that feature. I just paste the URL in manually |
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| 23:34.38 | x_link | Nate_Grey: Heey =) |
| 23:34.47 | pcbshelp | what what what...... whats this about firefox i wanna knowwwwww |
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| 23:35.36 | deadsouls | i would like to have "Send Link" working though |
| 23:35.52 | deadsouls | pcbshelp, <deadsouls> is anyone here using kmail with firefox? i've setup using kmail as the default client, but if i choose "send link..." it just opens a blank email template. has anyone fixed this? |
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| 23:36.38 | deadsouls | i'm wondering if there is any way i could call kmail with certain options to fix this |
| 23:36.44 | deadsouls | i think i'd need to use --body |
| 23:36.56 | AmyRose | deadsouls: Firefox isn't my primary browser though. I normally use Opera or Konqueror |
| 23:37.09 | deadsouls | though that might break the mailto function |
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| 23:38.48 | wert613 | i need some help guys |
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| 23:39.49 | wert613 | on konqueror the text is gray and its staying gray, ive tried changing it in the konqueror settings and the colors settings but it wont change, any ideas? |
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| 23:40.44 | wert613 | anyone? |
| 23:40.54 | pcbshelppp | which text |
| 23:40.58 | pcbshelppp | screenshot? |
| 23:41.10 | wert613 | ill take a screenshot |
| 23:41.13 | pcbshelppp | ok |
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| 23:42.45 | wert613 | http://dominomf.com/smcfiles/wert613_Screenshot.png |
| 23:42.59 | wert613 | as yoiu can see the buttons and the menus are gray |
| 23:43.13 | pcbshelppp | looks like ur theme |
| 23:43.22 | pcbshelppp | change the font color in the theme setitngs? |
| 23:43.23 | wert613 | ive tryed changing it |
| 23:43.35 | pcbshelppp | hmm where exactly did u change? |
| 23:43.35 | wert613 | it wont change in konq |
| 23:43.42 | wert613 | colors |
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| 23:44.16 | wert613 | ahh i got it |
| 23:44.19 | wert613 | you helped |
| 23:44.29 | pcbshelppp | and how was that then. |
| 23:44.42 | wert613 | i happen to be using qtcurve as the style and it gave ityself a custom menu color |
| 23:44.52 | wert613 | i just made it black |
| 23:44.55 | wert613 | thx =D |
| 23:45.02 | pcbshelppp | and i think u could just delete /home/USERNAME/.kde/.konq ? and reset to defaults? |
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| 23:46.42 | pcbshelppp | oops sorry /home/admin/.kde/share/apps/konqueror :) |
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| 23:47.39 | bluekb | Where do I go to solve kmail issues? |
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| 23:48.10 | pcbshelppp | bluekb: whats the issue? |
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| 23:48.54 | bluekb | pcbshelppp, None of my filters are being applied; additionally, when I try to run all filters, it crashes kmail consistently. |
| 23:49.14 | Sho_ | With KMail a general recommendation is to get the latest KDE version available, because there tend to be a lot of bugfixes in each |
| 23:49.29 | Sho_ | 3.5.7 had a log of bugfixes for IMAP, some related to filters I believe |
| 23:50.18 | bluekb | Qt: 3.3.8 |
| 23:50.18 | bluekb | KDE: 3.5.7-8.fc7 Fedora |
| 23:50.18 | bluekb | KMail: 1.9.7 |
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| 23:51.41 | bluekb | My filters were working until a few days ago--perhaps when I applied expiration dates to some folders. |
| 23:51.49 | bluekb | Not sure if that could be related. |
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| 23:53.52 | wert613 | opk what i did only fixed the menus but the buttons still have light gray text |
| 23:54.00 | wert613 | so how am i gonna fix it =D? |
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| 23:56.38 | pcbshelppp | buttons in configure konq menu |
| 23:56.42 | pcbshelppp | in actual konq |
| 23:57.03 | pip | kget starts when system starts ,how to avoid this ? |
| 23:57.05 | wert613 | hmm where? |
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| 23:58.17 | wert613 | pcbshelppp: where in konq can i configure buttons? |
| 23:58.57 | pcbshelppp | konq > setting > configure toolbars |
| 23:59.04 | wert613 | ok |
| 23:59.22 | pcbshelppp | press defaults maybe itll work. |
