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00:02.37JDoyleanyone home?
00:03.53qupadanope, i'm at work
00:04.28JDoylehehe
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00:04.47JDoyleI have a question about the main panel in kcontrol
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00:05.40JDoyleHow can I change what is displayed for 'system:'
00:06.19JDoyleIt currently displays the kernel version, I would like it to say the distro and version number
00:06.30sabayonlive-2206can any one tell me if mu will play on sabayon 3.3?  its a rpg game
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00:22.44JDoyleanyone?
00:23.23Tanjayeah
00:23.57JDoyleI have a question about the main panel in kcontro
00:24.09JDoyleHow can I change what is displayed for 'system:'
00:24.23JDoyleIt currently displays the kernel version, I would like it to say the distro name and version number
00:24.34JDoyleAny ideas?
00:25.01JDoyle3.5.6
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00:28.13JDoyleO.K. I found the file. How do I get kcontrol to disply the info?
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00:31.17heavensrevengehello
00:31.29JDoylehey
00:31.29heavensrevengehow cxan i customize or alter the right click context menu??
00:31.48heavensrevengeid like to add ark's extract into the right click
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00:34.45seoulmanThe ark extract option doesn't appear already if you right-click on an archive?
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00:38.23JDoyleThe actions in the context menu are .desktop config files kept in /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus
00:38.44JDoyleYou should have the ark extract option already
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00:41.04unityhey, does anyone know if i can hide hidden folder in filesize view, folders and files such as .system/ ?
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01:28.24KanRiNiNhttp://en.pastebin.ca/599162 could someone help debug my startkde?  I posted a script session.
01:28.33KanRiNiNThanks in advance
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01:29.56StarScreamKanRiNiN: are you running startx as root ?
01:30.05KanRiNiNyes StarScream
01:30.12StarScreamKanRiNiN: thats your problem
01:30.41StarScreamkdm is started by root, but x is just run as a normal user
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01:31.40KanRiNiNStarScream: startx runs fine as a normal user, but startkde still throws errors
01:31.59StarScreamstartkde must be run from xinit
01:32.23StarScreamwhy not just startx or kdm / gdm/
01:33.56KanRiNiNStarScream: I'm a bit of a newb.  How can I run it from xinit?  I know there's an echo command but I imagine there's a file I can put exec startkde in
01:34.18KanRiNiNthat and the fact that I'm back from dinner with 7 beers doesn't help much
01:34.28StarScreamKanRiNiN: so if you are new , then why are you trying to do it that way ?
01:34.33StarScreami really don't understand
01:34.37mobtekput startkde in your ~/.xinitrc and then try it :)
01:34.46StarScreameven as an experienced user i have no idea why you would do that
01:35.59KanRiNiNthanks mobtek.
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01:38.48mobtekwith just startx KanRiNiN_
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01:39.02KanRiNiNexcellent.  I finally have a working kde :-)
01:39.07KanRiNiNI was getting sick of lynx and irssi
01:39.10KanRiNiNthat's again mobtek
01:39.13mobtekhehe cool
01:39.35mobtekusing kdm is nice too for booting and just ignoring the console and saves you having to type startx :P
01:39.48KanRiNiNto answer your question StarScream, I switched from Kubuntu to FreeBSD.  in kubuntu they do everything including wipe your ass for you
01:39.57mobtekheheh and how
01:40.04mobtekmy wife loves her kubuntu machine
01:40.31StarScreamwell thats cool, but i also run freeBSD and i still don't know why you would run startkde standalone
01:40.52StarScreamwhat mobtek suggested will work with startx
01:41.01KanRiNiNmobtek: Where can I learn how to use kdm instead of typing in startx all the time?  Do you know of a wiki off the top?
01:41.09StarScreamor using kdm or another login manager will also work.
01:42.15KanRiNiNwell, I have to load the qt libs anyway
01:42.18KanRiNiNso I might as well use kdm
01:42.28mobtekhmmm it's a setting in /etc
01:42.32mobtektrying to remember which one
01:42.36mobtekdunno with freebsd hehe
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01:43.15StarScreamwell i've installed kde into opt
01:43.21mobtekStarScream: yeah it's obvious for a user that .xinitrc is the place for the startkde command though
01:43.38mobteklet me check my gentoo vm
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01:49.13mobtekKanRiNiN: n administrator of a multi-user system may wish to have a graphical login screen to welcome users. XDM can be used, as described earlier. However, KDE includes an alternative, kdm, which is designed to look more attractive and include more login-time options. In particular, users can easily choose (via a menu) which desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, or something else) to run after logging on.
01:49.19mobtekTo enable kdm, the ttyv8 entry in /etc/ttys has to be adapted. The line should look as follows:
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01:49.23mobtekttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure
01:49.24mobtekfrom http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html
01:50.28stonedhi
01:50.38stonedwhat is a good mac os style panel for kde
01:51.39KanRiNiNthansk mobtek
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01:53.49mobtekstoned, just make your panel transparent :)
01:54.04mobteklooks nice just no silly zooming
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01:54.38haysis there an easy way to adjust the CPU-intensiveness of eye candy settings in KDE?
01:55.10stonedno really
01:55.15stonedI want a zooming one
01:55.21stonedwhere the icons bounce n shit
01:57.45stonedsearch dock
01:57.48stoneddoh
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01:59.29jlowellhi
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01:59.34stonedyo
02:00.00jlowellis there anyway to set menu to be bellow buttons in konqueror?
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02:04.14omnever mind
02:04.15omi found it thanks
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02:10.18pcbshelpjlowell: only way is to make it a float.
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02:16.36pcbshelpi like the way u can split konqurer, for drag and drop jobs.
02:17.02pcbshelphave an ftp window on right, and normal /usr window on left :)
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02:21.58pcbshelpwhy kde control menu doesnt clear firefox history.
02:22.16level1Hi, i'm using kdevelop to manage a java program... it has a real time error report (called "problems") that has a long list of errors... its clear that the errors are from a very old version of java, probably gij... how can I redirect it to the newest version I have on my computer?
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02:59.25Simeon_Hadobe are bastards
02:59.48Simeon_HI know trolltech make a lot of money from them, but they should cut off their Qt licences all the same -_-
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03:03.56KanRiNiNHey, I compiled KMplayer but whenever I try to play a DVD it says xine not initiated.  I don't want xine, I prefer mplayer.
03:04.15KanRiNiNCould someone help me along?
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03:08.52kinectionhello, i'm wondering. is it possible to have mutt and kmail work together?
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03:09.44wolsniKanRiNiN: I don't have KMplayer installed right now, but it should be a fairly straightforward option in the settings dialog
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03:10.11wolsnikinection: work together how?
03:10.37kinectionwolsni: as in, sometimes checking my mail through mutt, sometimes through kmail without mail being lost
03:10.42dfgasanyone know how to get kde4 on ubuntu 7.04?
03:11.27KanRiNiNwolsni: I simply deleted all references to xine in the confi ;-)
03:11.31KanRiNiNworks fine now
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03:12.25SAS_Spidey01Does any one know if Baghira can cause system slow down ? e.g. slow loading context menus / switching between windows / e.t.c.
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03:12.50wolsniSAS_Spidey01: I believe Baghira is one of the slower styles out there, yes
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03:15.49SAS_Spidey01Then I guess its time to switch back to my beloved keramik; cheaper buying a newer laptop ! lol
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03:25.07SAS_Spidey01Figures bagging baghira fixed it and restarting X fixed the looks of stuff
03:25.17wolsnicool
03:25.51SAS_Spidey01Took quite awhile to configure it so it wouldn't hurt my eyes..... just to have to dump it
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03:30.19Shirakawasunawould someone be willing to download my icon theme and see if it works?  I got reports that it doesn't but they weren't at all specific.
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03:35.21TomasuAwayis there a way to increase the number of forwards konqueror will follow before it dies with a cyclic link error?
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03:36.45TheSimkinforwards?
03:36.49TheSimkinwhat do you mean by forwards?
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03:54.39ShirakawasunaTheSimkin: as opposed to the back button
03:54.52ShirakawasunaI think
03:54.55ShirakawasunaTomasuAway: is that what you mean?
03:54.56wolsniShirakawasuna: not at all
03:55.16Shirakawasunamailing lists?
03:55.27wolsniwebsites can forward you from one URL to another, I believe at the HTTP level
03:55.28TomasuAwayForwards as in "Location:" headers or 30x responses from the server.
03:55.38TomasuAwayredirects that seem to recurse, but don't really
03:56.25Shirakawasunaah
04:00.21TheSimkinShirakawasuna: ahhh.
04:00.24TheSimkini didn't know there was a limit
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04:00.55ShirakawasunaTheSimkin: no, no, I'm wrong :)
04:01.09Shirakawasunafeel free to smack me a little ;)
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04:07.52wsjunioris any package needed to be able to view movies previews inside konqueror?
04:08.29wolsniwsjunior: kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree from livna
04:08.53wolsnisorry, thought this was #fedora
04:09.09wolsniit depends on your distro though
04:09.15wsjuniorkubuntu
04:09.17wsjuniorany idea?
04:09.30wsjuniorthere isnt such package here :/
04:09.53terr_are there any chemists in our midst?  I need some guidance and so far no-one is #chemistry is responding.
04:10.29wolsniwell, look in the "view->preview" menu and see if movies are one of the preview types available
04:11.06wsjuniorwolsni: ya all checked
04:11.22wolsniask in #kubuntu then
04:11.22wsjuniorthats why i thought some package was missing
04:11.28wsjuniori did :-)
04:11.32terr_I'm making some rhubard wine and want to test for and percipitate out hte oxalic acid
04:11.35wolsnior search their forums
04:12.21wsjuniorwolsni: got it.. libarts1-xine
04:12.29wolsnicool
04:12.31wsjuniorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1237990
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04:16.41SchalkenWhere can I make it so that when I middle click a link in Konq it opens in a new tab?
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04:17.28wolsniSchalken: Settings->Configure Konqueror->Web Behavior
04:17.52wolsni"Open links in new tab instead of new window"
04:18.36Schalkenwolsni: ah yes, but can i make it so it only opens in a new tab when middle clicked?
04:18.47Schalkenif a link tries to open in a new window it should open in a new window
04:19.08wolsnihm, I'm not sure about that
04:20.00Schalkenah well, im happy with that for now :)
04:21.25DhraakellianWhy would konqueror default to Japanese encoding for everything?
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04:23.03SchalkenDhraakellian: there is something about text encoding in the settings...
04:23.05Schalkensomewhere...
04:23.24Dhraakellianfonts?
04:23.26SchalkenDhraakellian: view > set encoding > automatic
04:23.29DhraakellianDefault encoding: utf8
04:23.34Schalkenon the menus
04:23.54DhraakellianSchalken: yes, I know, and when I go into that menu, it always shows Japanese as being selected
04:24.06SchalkenDhraakellian: then change it
04:24.19Dhraakellianfor every single fscking page?
04:24.30Dhraakellians/page/tab/ perhaps
04:24.46SchalkenDhraakellian: oh, so it sets that to jap by default, okay...
04:24.56SchalkenDhraakellian: default encoding...hmm..
04:25.08Dhraakelliandefault encoding is set to utf8
04:25.17Dhraakellianit's like it's autodetecting everything as japanese
04:25.23Dhraakellianwhich isn't a problem for basic ascii
04:25.33SchalkenDhraakellian: i have my default set to "use language encoding"
04:26.05Dhraakelliannope
04:26.18chealerhi. since I use Debian 4.0 (KDE 3.5.5) on my laptop, my keyboard locks frequently until I close my KDE session. I can then relogin through kdm and use my keyboard normally in the new session. The lock happens when I type (for example, it happened when trying to join this channel using konversation keyboard shortcuts). the lock is pretty much total. IIRC I can't vt-switch using the keyboard. does this ring a bell for someone?
04:26.21SchalkenDhraakellian: no good? well thats all i god.
04:26.23Schalkengot*
04:26.39Schalkenchealer: tldr
04:26.44Schalken(too long, didnt read)
04:27.00chealerSchalken: well, thanks anyway
04:27.08Schalkenlol!
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04:43.16Shirakawasunachealer: sorry, not sure.   I'm guessing you've asked #debian, too?
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04:48.42DaSkreechcan I mv ~/.kde ?
04:49.11wolsniDaSkreech: i imagine so
04:50.20DaSkreechok
04:50.40DaSkreechbut rm ~/.kde is a banning offence? :)
04:50.59wolsniDaSkreech: nope, it's just often a dumb move
04:51.27chealerShirakawasuna: no. that only happened when using KDE (although I only use KDE as session type). I imagine that if closing the KDE session fixes, that points to a KDE issue.
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04:54.11chealeractually, I believe I did ask #debian-kde
04:56.12Shirakawasunachealer: it could be, I 'm just suggesting it in case it helps
04:56.22Shirakawasunachealer: I've often gotten distro-specific kde issues, it's no fun :/
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04:58.05chealerShirakawasuna: yeah (though this is Debian stable)
04:59.23Shirakawasunahmm, that's true
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04:59.35ShirakawasunaI almost always ask in my distro's channel first because I get better results, though :)
04:59.41wolsnichealer: you might want to check out bugs.kde.org too
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05:03.10stonedI have /dev/sdb2/home/stoned/blah and I want to mount not /dev/sdb2 but that whole path to say ~/mnt
05:03.21stonedis this possible or can one only mount devices
05:03.23stoned?
05:03.40stonedI haven't tried it cuz I don't wanna break anything I might break something
05:04.05chealerwolsni: right. the only idea I have is to search "keyboard lock" on all components. that didn't find anything relevant.
05:04.20wolsnistoned: device nodes can't have subdirectories
05:04.45stonedwolsni: so there is no way to do this/
05:04.45stoned?
05:05.02wolsnistoned: what's wrong with mounting it and making a symlink?
05:05.19stonedyeh but...
05:05.32stonedI think my drive might have errors
05:05.39stonedso I'm backing stuff up to another drive
05:05.52stonedthen i'll continue to use this drive and see if it is really going bad
05:05.58stonedit was giving me errors but then it stopped
05:06.08stonedsomething about lost interrupts
05:06.33stonedata4.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4)
05:06.34stonedata4.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
05:06.34stonedata4: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
05:06.48stonedand
05:06.50stonedata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
05:06.50stonedata4.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20)
05:06.50stonedata4.00: tag 0 cmd 0x25 Emask 0x20 stat 0x51 err 0x84 (host bus error)
05:07.01stonedstuff like this, and I have no idea what the problem might be
05:07.09wolsnistoned: stop flooding, this channel isn't even about hardware support
05:07.13stonedall I did was take out the drive from an old pc and put it into another pc
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05:08.12stonedI wasn't asking for any support on hardware
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05:09.57stonedomg, my flooding interrupted such a grand conference in here, everyone seems so annoyed
05:10.01stonedzomg!
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06:52.15tanamoShockValue: /etc/profile ?
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07:38.15Chanioh bugger
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07:39.09ChaniI switched to offline mode becaues my net access was cut off, and I just switched back to "online mode", but kontact is failing to attempt to download anything
07:39.28Chaniand konq was running really slowly, then crashed whn I quit
07:39.42Chaniand my battery monitor thinks I'm not plugged in
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07:43.45Schalkendoes anyone know of a KDE theme style that is also avaliabel for Gtk?
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07:44.40Chanikio is just plain messed up :(
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07:48.43MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!
07:48.50markeyahoy
07:49.06MilhousePunkRockWhat is needed to have a NFS share show up in media:/? Hey markey...
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07:54.23shwouchkis there any way I can set what irc:// starts in kde apps?
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07:57.03Chaniphew, logging out fixed it
07:57.43Schalkenshwouchk: kinfocenter
07:58.08Schalkenshwouchk: ...or not
07:58.14Schalkenput irc://something into konq
08:00.31shwouchkSchalken: that starts kopete
08:00.39shwouchkI want it to start konversation
08:00.55Schalkenshwouchk: edit....
08:00.56Schalkensomething
08:00.58Schalkenthat
08:01.03Schalken..changes...
08:01.06Schalkenthat ;)
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08:01.17shwouchkwow
08:01.21shwouchkvery useful
08:01.23shwouchkthanks
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08:22.34lampyrishello
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08:26.54lampyrisi'm looking for a kde's client mail besides kmail
08:27.02lampyrisit exists?
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08:27.56shwouchklampyris: kmail IS kde's mail client... you can get some other client if you don't like it but it won't be kde's client
08:28.34lampyrisah, ok...
08:28.40shwouchklampyris: I suggest mozilla-thunderbird or evolution if you want to try something else
08:28.44bram85lampyris: if you use IMAP only you could try mailody
08:28.48shwouchkanyway, g2g
08:28.51shwouchkbye
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08:29.23AmyRoselampyris: Opera's built-in e-mail client is nice
08:29.36AmyRoseI still find myself liking KMail the best though
08:29.45AmyRoseEvolution is also nice
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08:30.52lampyrisis better kmail or thunderbird? :S
08:31.07AmyRoselampyris: I really love KMail
08:31.14AmyRosebut there are a bunch of good one
08:31.16AmyRoseones*
08:31.30AmyRoseSeamonkey's mail client is nice
08:31.45AmyRoselampyris: What browser do you use?
08:31.57lampyrisyes, but i search a stand-alone
08:32.28lampyrisi used opera.. and opera's mail client...  but now i want to use firefox
08:32.38AmyRoselampyris: I recommend Evolution over Thunderbird.
08:32.53AmyRosebut my favorite e-mail client is still KMail
08:32.54lampyrisevolution (gtk) on kde?
08:33.05AmyRoselampyris: Yeah, GTK apps work fine on KDE
08:33.11Simeon_Hyeah
08:33.14AmyRoseI use several of them myself
08:33.49AmyRoselampyris: Firefox is a GTK app, so shouldn't that be proof enough? :P
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08:34.28AmyRoselampyris: You're not exactly restricted to Qt applications on KDE, and you can also run KDE software in GNOME if you want to.
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08:34.59lampyrisat one time i used xfce/gtk.. but i decided to use kde becouse i like very much kde's apps :D
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08:35.33AmyRoselampyris: Well, you are not limited to just apps designed for your chosen desktop ;)
08:35.44AmyRoseIt's something I really like about Linux
08:35.51lampyrisyes, i know.. but after that computer is slower...
08:35.57AmyRoselampyris: Not really
08:36.02lampyris(sorry for my bad english :) )
08:36.17AmyRoselampyris: Your English is fine :)
08:36.23lampyristnx :D
08:36.45AmyRoseI just like KMail the best out of all the mail clients I've tried
08:36.57lampyrisbtw, it should load both gtk and qt, with libraries
08:37.07lampyrisi'll try kmail
08:37.08lampyris:)
08:37.32AmyRoseWell, KDE doesn't have to do *anything* to support GTK applications.
08:37.55lampyrismmm
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08:38.20AmyRoseX is what supports both, pretty much...
08:39.05AmyRoseI've never had any real problems with KMail in the 2 years I've used it.
08:39.42AmyRoselampyris: My favorite feature of KMail is how you can start it up, and have a system tray icon that tells you when new mail arrived
08:39.43lampyrisok :)
08:40.10AmyRoselampyris: It's nice to have KMail in the system tray and changing the icon to tell me when I have mail :)
08:40.27AmyRosethat way I don't have to worry about it unless it changes to a number :D
08:40.28lampyrisand it integrates very well in kontact :)
08:40.36AmyRoselampyris: Yeah, it's part of Kontact
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08:40.56AmyRosehi PhilRod
08:41.22AmyRoselampyris: Nice IRC client you use :D
08:41.36AmyRoseI actually used to be an xchat user until I forced myself to try Konversation
08:41.50AmyRosenow I'm hooked on its subtle but very handy features
08:42.07lampyrisAmyRose: what distro are you using?
08:42.13AmyRoselampyris: Kubuntu Feisty
08:42.20PhilRodhi AmyRose
08:42.24AmyRosehow are you, PhilRod?
08:42.31lampyrisAmyRose: eheh :) it is the first time that i use konversation :)
08:42.41AmyRoselampyris: What did you use before?
08:42.46lampyrisxchat
08:42.51PhilRodgood thanks, but a little stressed - lots to do this week
08:43.09AmyRoseYeah, me too... my mom's getting married this week
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08:43.31AmyRoselampyris: xchat is nice, but I still like Konversation better :D
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08:45.11PhilRodwork time
08:45.12lampyrisAmyRose: eheh.. yes!
08:46.26AmyRoselampyris: :)
08:46.49eNTiis there a plan for kde4 to make one easily switch between sound devices for i/o?
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08:47.45Freeman77does anyone know of a straightforward way of switching between separate desktop sessions, like in gnome?
08:47.58benJImaneNTi: I heard it mentioned, don't know if it's implemented yet.
08:48.11benJImanFreeman77: how do you mean, virtual desktops, or different X servers?
08:48.29Freeman77i'd like to run another session under different credentials
08:48.40benJImanFreeman77: kmenu -> start new session
08:48.45benJImanthen kmenu -> change session -> select
08:48.55benJImanOr if you're using new kickoff menu it's under the leave tab.
08:50.10eNTihmm... can i synchronize gCalendar with KOrganizer? ;)
08:50.38Freeman77i'm in 3.5 and i just don't see it
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08:51.24SSJFreeman77: Which distro?
08:51.32Freeman77slack 11
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08:52.34Freeman77i have a Lock Session and a Log Out
08:52.41Freeman77there's no change session
08:52.48AmyRoseFreeman77: Are you using KDM?
08:53.12AmyRoseIt won't work if you're not using KDM to log in
08:53.19Freeman77no, startx
08:53.19lampyrisAmyRose: yes, kmail is very nice :)
08:53.32AmyRoseFreeman77: That would explain the problem. You need to run a display manager to see it.
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08:53.40Freeman77alright
08:53.43AmyRoselampyris: Agreed :D
08:53.50AmyRoseFreeman77: Doesn't runlevel 4 run a dm?"
08:54.08Freeman77no, i just start another user in a separate tty and try to 'startx'
08:54.09AmyRoseI used Slack 11 in a class recently
08:54.34AmyRoseFreeman77: Yeah, you have to init 4 to see a display manager...
08:54.35Freeman77and it dies b/c the server's already running under different credentials
08:54.45Freeman77hmm
08:54.51lampyris.
08:55.02AmyRoselampyris: Yes?
08:55.19lampyrisnothing, i'm testing konversation :P
08:55.24AmyRoseheh
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08:56.25lampyrisbecouse it doesn't distiguish my messages from other users' messages
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08:57.05lampyrisin xchat, they are gray and other's ones black
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09:01.13AmyRoselampyris: Settings --> Configure Konversation, then look at the Colors section
09:01.45AmyRoseKonversation on my machine just gives each person a random color
09:02.08lampyrisyes.. this is the default setting
09:02.31lampyrisi try to set 2 different color... one for me and one for others
09:02.35AmyRoseWell, you should be able to configure it the way you want it to
09:03.00lampyrisi keep default settings :D
09:03.01AmyRoseor you may go back to xchat if you want to--there's nothing stopping you from running it in KDE
09:03.12lampyriseheh
09:03.13lampyrisyes
09:03.36AmyRoseI have to admit that xchat does have a couple of features I wished Konversation had
09:03.57AmyRoseBut what I cannot figure out is how mIRC got to be so popular with its horrible interface
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09:04.16dozerhi
09:04.20AmyRoseIt's the only IRC client I've ever hated
09:04.24AmyRosedozer: Hi.
09:04.25dozerkontact is crashing on launch for me - any ideas?
09:04.36AmyRosedozer: What distro/OS are you using?
09:04.44dozerkubuntu feisty
09:04.50dozerjust done an update
09:05.02AmyRosedozer: Did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.7?
09:05.26lampyrisdozer for me too... are you using debian sid?
09:05.27dozerAmyRose: how would I check?
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09:06.03dozerah, I'm on 3.5.6
09:06.06AmyRosedozer: Well, if you don't know, then the answer is probably "no" since you'd have to follow the directions on kubuntu.org to upgrade to 3.5.7
09:06.34lampyrisdozer: apt-cache show kontact
09:07.01dozerkk- upgrading now
09:07.05AmyRosedozer: I recommend upgrading to 3.5.7, since it fixed a number of bugs
09:07.47AmyRosedozer: Are you following the directions here? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
09:08.07dozeryup AmyRose
09:08.12AmyRoseGoody :D
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09:08.25AmyRoselampyris: You're using Debian Sid?
09:08.47lampyrisnow yes
09:08.50AmyRosewow
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09:08.51AmyRoseI don't have the guts to use that...
09:09.27lampyriswhy?
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09:10.13AmyRoseBecause I would not really feel comfortable using a system that's basically a series development snapshots
09:10.31AmyRoseI prefer having stable releases with updates in between
09:10.56AmyRoseand I also like the frequency of Kubuntu releases, not to mention the fact that they let us have the latest KDE as well :D
09:11.10lampyrissid is quite stable... btw, it has the same packages of ubuntu
09:11.10lampyris:)
09:11.21AmyRoseyeah, I know
09:11.27AmyRoseMy first distro was Debian Woody
09:11.45lampyrisbut yes, now there are some problem with libktnef.so libraries
09:11.49AmyRoseI just loved how much software was available in the package repo
09:12.01Simeon_Hmy first distro was MEPIS
09:12.22AmyRoseMy first distro was Debian Woody when it was 3 years old :P
09:12.28lampyrisi'm going to change distro..
09:12.35AmyRoselampyris: Why?
09:13.20lampyrisi don't know :P Debian is a good distro but i don't like it very much
09:13.27AmyRosewhat's wrong with it?
09:13.44AmyRoseI loved Debian for the most part
09:14.20lampyristhere isn't a real problem, but i don't feel with it
09:14.46AmyRoseWhen I started using Linux, I really didn't mind how much configuration was involved since I wasn't afraid to learn the ins and outs of Linux, but I didn't like how sparse the releases are...
09:15.21lampyrisi'm think to pass to gentoo... but i don't know... i'm confused :P
09:15.47AmyRoseI guess you could say I was one of the few n00bs who acted like a novice rather than assuming that because I knew Windows I'd be an all-around computer guru...
09:16.01AmyRoselampyris: Gentoo? Do you REALLY want to sit around and wait for everything to compile?
09:16.25AmyRoseI have no patience and would not be able to wait that long
09:16.54lampyriseh, it takes a lot of time... but you disable what you don't use
09:17.14AmyRoseyeah
09:17.30AmyRoseI had patience when learning Linux, but I just don't like waiting...
09:17.41lampyrisi like ubuntu... but it installs a lot of things/driver/etc that i don't need...
09:17.57AmyRoseI settled on Kubuntu because I'm lazy :P
09:18.11lampyrisi'm too :P
09:18.13AmyRoseIt's a wonderful thing to be able to be lazy on Linux :D
09:18.24dozersame for me, and we can run it from a vanilla install
09:18.25ChaniI loved gentoo back when I had lotsa free time :)
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09:18.45ChaniI'd usually set stuff to compile overnight or while I was out
09:18.50AmyRoseI like Kubuntu not because of its n00b-friendliness but because I can be lazy :D
09:19.02ChaniAmyRose: same
09:19.19Chanihte n00b-friendlyness is starting to get on my nerves a tiny bit though
09:19.26Chanithat and the strange kde modifications
09:19.29AmyRoseWell, it doesn't bother me
09:19.30lampyrisin the past i used some "power user" distro.. i like them but now i'm lazy :P I'm looking for a nice desktop, whitout problems... but fast...
09:19.46AmyRoselampyris: Then how is Gentoo the answer?!
09:19.59AmyRoseGentoo is for people with too much time on their hands :P
09:20.22lampyriseh, yes...
09:20.23lampyris:P
09:20.26lampyrisi know
09:20.48lampyrisbut gentoo is a good distro.. with a lot of documentation, stable, personalizing...
09:20.48bram85compiling is rather a passive activity, you can do anything else during compiling
09:20.48AmyRoseI think it's funny that Slackware doesn't include GNOME anymore
09:20.55lampyriswhit a great community
09:21.09AmyRoselampyris: I'm not saying not to use it ;)
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09:21.18lampyris:)
09:21.19AmyRoseAnything is better than Windows!
09:21.25lampyriseheheh
09:21.30bram85well...
09:21.40lampyrisi'm courious to try OS X...
09:21.40AmyRoseI haven't used Windows since March 28, 2004, and I don't miss it one bit.
09:21.41lampyris:S
09:22.48AmyRoselampyris: I would too, but I can't afford the cost of a Mac. I use Linux because it is free.
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09:23.00AmyRoseand because it runs on the PC's I already have
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09:23.41AmyRoseand now I am not so trusting of a proprietary OS anyway, so I doubt I'll ever be motivated to buy a Mac
09:23.57lampyrisyes... i haven't a mac...  next month i'll buy a new laptop.. but if i buy a mac, the suppport of linux is'nt good...
09:24.14AmyRoselampyris: How long have you used Linux?
09:24.27lampyrisabout 2-3 years
09:24.29AmyRoseI have been using Linux since early 2004
09:24.38eNTihow can i switch my output device for amarok? i want to use my usb headset so i don't disturb my gf.
09:24.39dozerthe intel macs are a good compromise - you can run linux as the primary, and mac and windows on virtual desktops
09:24.49dozerif you /realy/ need one of the ms/mac apps
09:24.59AmyRoseyuck... Windows?!
09:25.43lampyrisi heared linux doesn't go very well on mac
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09:27.25AmyRoselampyris: Yeah, one of the reasons being that Macs have ATI graphics chips in them...
09:28.25lampyrismmm they have intel graphics 950
09:28.27lampyrisnot?
09:28.58AmyRoseI don't know anymore
09:29.20AmyRoseand I don't really like Apple much these days
09:30.19lampyriseheh
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09:31.45lampyrisnoe i'm looking for a performance (fast and stable) distro but for lazy people :P
09:31.51lampyris*now
09:33.12bram85compared to Linux From Scratch, Gentoo is for lazy people :)
09:34.20AmyRosehahaha
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09:35.24jcczjlmacs have intel or nvidia chips as for laptops these days
09:35.30bram85lampyris: or you could consider FreeBSD
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09:38.57lampyrisbram85: freebsd isn't a good choice for desktop, in my opinion
09:39.24bram85lampyris: KDE is available for FreeBSD, what else do you need? ;)
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09:40.10whirmhi all!
09:41.22bram85lampyris: but admitted, outside KDE it seems to be hard for many people to write portable code
09:41.32bram85official KDE modules i meant
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09:42.45lampyrisbram85: drivers
09:42.46AmyRosebram85: ALSA =P
09:42.46lampyris:P
09:43.46bram85nah... i was just kidding about FreeBSD... it's a great OS for servers, but I don't think I'd use it for my daily work
09:44.01AmyRosebram85: Also, as far as I've heard, FreeBSD doesn't really have much support for webcams, and my gf likes being able to see me
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09:45.38DNITHI All
09:45.54DNITHow are you today
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09:54.11dreamyhllo kde
09:54.12dreamy??
09:55.13dreamyplz i want to kno when we can use the stale kde4 in our linux
09:55.14dreamy??
09:57.02dreamyanyone there??
09:58.12dreamyokok thanks et merci
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09:59.08strawi can has kde4z!1?
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10:00.47strawhow is aKademy going thus far, aseigo?
10:00.52aseigogreat =)
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10:01.28strawsweet :)
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10:04.24eNTianyone possibly know, why the remote on my usb headset doesn't change the volume the device it's connected to, but rather the master channel of my soundcard?
10:05.53dozereNTi: that's an awesom bug - no idea what's wrong
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10:10.50dozerAmyRose: updated, but still getting crash-on-launch from kontact (kmail)
10:11.05AmyRoseouch
10:11.32dozerI will try the old "move bits of .kde sideways" trick
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10:14.34dozerthat didn't help
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10:18.03eNTihmm... what's the syntax for "Override device location" under sound system -> hardware?
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10:25.03eNTiok hw:XX,XX was my answer :)
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10:29.08eNTihehe. this is really funny. the remote on my usb headset will always change the volume of the channel i set in KMix  to Master :)
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11:20.57pressenterDCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
11:21.01pressenterWhat does this mean?
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11:25.02pressenterAnyone at least knows where is the startkde script?
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11:27.00annmapressenter: where it is on your machine you mean?
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11:27.47pressenteryup
11:28.13annmawhich startkde
11:28.18annmayou type that in a terminal
11:28.33annmaand magically it answers you the location
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11:29.48balaaseigo: hello, i have a small q. for you, will it be possible to chain plasma datasources together?
11:31.08pinotreebala: #plasma would be a bit more appropriate for that, i think
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11:33.10DexterFwho handles cd/dvd mounting in kde usually? hal? dbus?
11:33.25balapinotree: sorry about that, im off to plasma!
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11:35.39pressenterannma: Ah, right, thank you. :)
11:36.13annma:)
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11:43.16miguelscan anyone help with ati-radeon and black screen?
11:43.53annmayour distro channel will do that miguels
11:44.11miguelsok.. thanks
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11:56.16gribouilleHi
11:56.26gribouilledoes anyone use korganizer
11:56.29gribouille?
11:57.01simonko19no
11:57.02simonko19lol
11:57.16gribouillesimonko19, you should
11:57.27simonko19why
11:57.33simonko19should i need an organizer?
11:57.47gribouillesimonko19, that way, you could help me :-)
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11:57.58simonko19whats the problem?
11:58.40gribouilledon't bother
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12:03.41gribouilleI have a problem with korganizer
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12:05.06litbi miss the digest
12:05.14litb:)
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12:05.30gribouillelitb, what digest ?
12:06.02litbof dannya
12:06.11gribouilleof what ?
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12:06.22litbuh Danny
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12:06.52litbDanny Allen
12:07.42litbits the one who writes commit-digest
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12:14.43gstnetHello, is it possible to force libkatepart to use .rc file with different name (katepartsimpleui.rc for an example) ?
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12:21.07Ind[y]What is the similar of "karamba themes" for GNOME?
12:22.03firedropsdesklets
12:22.05jacekowskigdesklets AFAIK
12:22.06firedropsbut they suck
12:22.08firedrops:P
12:22.13jacekowskignome sux
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12:22.27Ind[y]ok, thanks
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12:32.05eNTiwhy is there alaways a grey border around a panel?
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13:32.58ilyakI've somehow managed to lose toolbar from kmail compose window
13:33.08ilyakHow do I make it return? back?
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13:37.30annmailyak: Settings -> Toolbars
13:37.39annmacheck the one you want to show
13:39.01ilyakannma: oh thx!
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13:39.27anisfarhanagreetings all
13:39.40annmahi anisfarhana
13:39.44anisfarhanai don't remember how to make K Menu bar transparent , anyone can help me on there ?
13:39.52luna_;)
13:39.55anisfarhanaheya annma long time not see how are u ?
13:40.50annmaI'm at the KDE conference anisfarhana
13:40.55annmaso I'm very fine !
13:41.12anisfarhanaannma: good to hear it mom :)
13:41.18annmalol
13:41.21annma;)
13:41.24annmahow about you?
13:41.40litbeNTi: if you use Domino, you hardly see borders
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13:42.15anisfarhanadepressed + hypertension , there is so much work at office plus i had a lots of personal problem
13:42.55annma:(
13:43.05annmahope you get better soon
13:43.12anisfarhanathx :)
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13:43.21anisfarhanaohhh...do u know about it annma ?
13:43.31anisfarhanai mean how to make the K Menu transparent
13:43.37anisfarhananot a kicker , but K Menu List
13:45.09annmahmmm, no
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13:52.36bram85anisfarhana: afaik that's only possible if you enable it for all menus in KDE
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13:54.13anisfarhanabram85: i have enable and tick the option "also apply to to panel with menu bar"
13:54.45bram85anisfarhana: oh you mean the Mac OS style menu bar?
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13:58.11anisfarhanabram85: no
13:58.31anisfarhanabram85: im talking about MENU transparency
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14:35.33Shut_Up_And_Kisslol
14:35.35Shut_Up_And_Kisshi
14:35.59pinotree?
14:36.05Shut_Up_And_Kisswat ?
14:36.14Shut_Up_And_Kisssomethin wrong ?
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14:36.28pinotreeless k
14:36.34pinotreeless lamer nick?
14:37.01Shut_Up_And_Kissisnt as lamer as yours ;)
14:37.11pinotreeabsolutely, not
14:37.16open_i'm getting this error from 'kio_media_mounthelper'
14:37.29open_The device was successfully unmounted, but the tray could not be opened
14:37.36open_when trying to open the cd drive
14:37.42open_has anyone had this problem?
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14:59.57alewarhello, i'm trying to compile the first kde 4 devel tutorial (hello-world) but get an error about ki18n not being defined in the scope, can somebody tell me how to fix it?
15:00.29logixoulalewar: ask in #kde-devel
15:00.38alewarok, thanks!
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15:02.18logixoul:)
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15:29.49ichthudionI am looking for a kde 3.5 api reference
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15:30.03ichthudionThe one I found at the kde developer site is not working
15:30.14DaSkreechso no Commit digest this week?
15:30.25Sho_ichthudion: http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/
15:30.43Sho_DaSkreech: Danny has his hands full with the Akademy press duties, I imagine
15:30.44ichthudionSho_:  Thank you
15:30.57DaSkreechYeah
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15:32.39ichthudionUnder what might I find the api for adding a tray icon to an application
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15:33.13DaSkreechSo Gnu is the shadow of the collossus?
15:33.15ichthudionI'm new to the kde api and I'm trying to extend the features of wlassistant
15:33.16Sho_ichthudion: kdeui. http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKSystemTray.html
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15:33.49ichthudionSho_: Again, thank you, you are a life saver
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15:35.10DaSkreechAny .oggs of the akademy up yet?
15:35.29Sho_nope
15:35.43DaSkreechdamn
15:35.47DaSkreechStill no net on the floor/
15:35.56Sho_Net went up yesterday
15:36.42DaSkreechok Guess they are still catching up
15:37.02DaSkreechI heard sabdfl said that all apps should relase every 6 months?
15:37.07DaSkreechThat's kinda stupid
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15:41.23Sho_moin annma
15:42.20annmahi Sho_
15:42.23annma:)
15:42.36Sho_annma: How's Akademy?
15:42.43annmabrilliant!
15:43.08annmait's so nice to see everyone and hear all those great talks and talk to everyone
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15:57.56DaSkreechI want to hear what were the issues with Kiosktool
15:58.14annmahow come?
15:59.41pinotreeDaSkreech: ?
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15:59.59DaSkreechpinotree: One of the talks was going over Kiosktool and the issues with it
16:00.02DaSkreechI hear :)
16:00.12pinotree?
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16:00.22Sho_pinotree: Inge's talk touched on large-scale installs and problems with Kiosktool
16:00.36Sho_;)
16:00.43pinotree...
16:01.03pinotreei can't split myself into two, and follow two track at the same time, you know? :p
16:01.21annmaDaSkreech: well, yes
16:01.29annmaDaSkreech: basically kiosktool is not ported
16:01.35annmaso that's the issue
16:01.38DaSkreechto?
16:01.46Sho_DaSkreech: 4
16:01.53annmakde4
16:02.01DaSkreechOh yeah duh. For a second I freaked and thought Windows
16:02.20annmalol
16:02.23annmabooh
16:02.50pinotreewell, kiosktool is kde specific, so theorically yes
16:02.50DaSkreech:-)
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16:04.41DaSkreechI want to get all the snapshots and look at the progress
16:05.04DaSkreechI'm beating that when Gnome 3 comes out it will be a much delayed progress in comparison
16:05.36pinotreeDaSkreech: why waiting for alphas? use http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
16:05.57DaSkreechpinotree: I just said why I'm waiting for alphas
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16:06.54pinotreeDaSkreech: you didn't get my point - instead of *waiting* for the alphas, *compile* kde4 anytime
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16:07.13DaSkreechpinotree: But the milestone points are important
16:07.19pinotreeand?
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16:07.28pinotreethe everyday svn is importatn as well
16:07.45DaSkreechnot to *insert random user here*
16:08.19ichthudionsystem tray is a pain to implement
16:08.20pinotreeif you want to compile some alpha, you are not "some random user"
16:08.36DaSkreechYou said I want to compile an alpha
16:08.40DaSkreechI didn't
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16:10.16annmaI can pat pinotree's head if you proxy me DaSkreech
16:10.27pinotree(!)
16:10.52annmaok I'll do that when the meeting is finished
16:11.00strawso, what's been the most exciting track at aKademy? anything stand out?
16:11.18DaSkreechOh yeah the kits
16:11.21vkshow can i have a kicker in KDE
16:11.30DaSkreech<PROTECTED>
16:11.34pinotreevks: are you using kde?
16:11.41annmaI have a konqi lochness one
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16:11.57linux__alienhow do i get the Trash Icon on the Desktop
16:12.20vksyes i am
16:12.46strawlinux__alien: locate trash.desktop
16:12.53wolsnivks: kicker is the KDE panel
16:13.16strawlinux__alien: when you find it, copy it to $KDEHOME/Desktop
16:13.22wolsniif it's not displayed either you have it set to autohide or the panel program crashed
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16:15.05linux__alienstraw, thanks
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16:15.20strawno problem
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16:18.52litbhehe
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16:20.25litbhas akademy been finished?
16:20.41pinotreeno
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16:22.25kaiseris kde 4 out yet?
16:22.38pinotreeno
16:22.39DaSkreechkaiser: No
16:22.40BP{k}no
16:22.42litb~kde4
16:22.43aptThe next major revision of KDE -- KDE 4.0 -- will be released when it's ready, not before. However, the current target date is October 23rd, 2007 (see http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule).
16:22.48tstaerkno. only unstable. stable planned for oct-23
16:22.56tstaerkoh
16:23.09DaSkreechpinotree: thats cause you have a no trigger
16:23.12DaSkreech:-P
16:23.19Dunedanno
16:23.21Dunedan;-)
16:23.41pinotreeyou last phrase can actually trigger another tigger, the "kick" one
16:24.15litbhe has a "kde4.*out.*\?" bot
16:24.52DaSkreechlitb: No he just could press up since no was the last thing he said :)
16:25.07DaSkreechAssuming on client
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16:25.23strawwho the heck cares...
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16:25.33litbhm, it's obvois i did an error because my statement also contained that phrase
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16:28.05DaSkreechyay dot updated
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16:33.39litbgreat!
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16:46.14Fetowhy do I get that "kde is already running" message and the panel breaks?
16:46.30Sho_now there's a barrage of Akademy articles
16:46.59DaSkreechYeah
16:47.27DaSkreechThat's a compelling reason to have a 6 month schedule
16:47.42DaSkreechbut I'm not sure scaring people is a good end all
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16:50.41Fetohello?
16:51.38wolsniFeto: what are you doing when you get that message?
16:52.19Fetowolsni: i'm starting x, and there is no x session anywhere else in the host
16:53.00wolsniFeto: have you tried logging in with a new user?
16:53.14Fetowolsni: no, i haven't
16:53.26Fetoshould i give it a shot?
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16:53.49wolsniyes, try that
16:53.50Fetodoes it help on finding where the problem is?
16:53.52Fetok brb
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16:56.09Fetowolsni: it works
16:56.12DaSkreechI likeshow one article states Aaron gave a talk that was not a Keynote but sounded like one then the second article backs this up by saying It was followed by two Keynotes ONe from Mark Shuttelworth and one from Aaron
16:56.21Fetobut when I go back to my user i get that "KDE seems to be already running on this display." again
16:57.06wolsniokay, have you recently killed KDE abruptly?
16:57.17Fetoprobably
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16:57.22wolsnicrash, ctrl+alt+backspace, any of that?
16:57.25wolsniokay
16:57.26Fetoi kind of tend to do that pretty frequently
16:57.29Fetoc-a-bs
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16:58.15wolsnithere is a keyboard shortcut to do a clean logout in KDE
16:58.25Fetooh i didn't know that
16:58.27Fetowhat is it?
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16:58.49wolsniwell, like all KDE shortcuts it's configurable
16:59.08Fetowhat's the default?
16:59.15wolsnictrl+alt+shift+delete appears to be the default
16:59.25Fetook thanks
16:59.28Fetobut first
16:59.31Fetohow do I fix this?
16:59.42Fetois there a file I can delete?
16:59.43Fetoor something?
16:59.55Fetoor some permissions i have to fix?
16:59.57wolsnii think you just need to delete the symlinks in ~/.kde/
17:00.10Fetolet me see
17:00.11Fetoall of them?
17:00.28wolsnithey should be recreated by KDE when you start a new session
17:00.34Fetook
17:00.35Fetobrb then
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17:02.22Fetoi didn't get that message now
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17:02.26Fetobut the panel is still not there
17:02.48wolsniwell, just run kicker manually and make sure your session is saved
17:02.59Fetooh ok :)
17:03.02Fetobrb
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17:03.26strawdcop kicker Panel restart
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17:03.40Fetoah there you go :)
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17:03.56Fetobrb
17:05.18Fetook now the panel appears, then hides, and i cannot raise it by moving the mouse... only using ctrl-esc
17:05.23Fetothat's weird
17:05.46wolsniFeto: check the settings, see what the autohide setting is
17:06.10Fetoi usually have it on, but then it shows with the mouse... i'll check it out
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17:06.28shevywhat can i do with kdebindings?
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17:06.47Fetoyeah it's set to hiding, and raising when pointer touches screen's bottom edge
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17:06.58wolsniFeto: you could try renaming your kickerrc I suppose
17:07.19Fetoi can try that
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17:08.12Fetook there's no kickerrc now
17:08.17Fetoi'll restart x
17:08.26wolsniFeto: just restart kicker
17:08.40Fetowith that kicker panel restart?
17:08.53wolsnishevy: write KDE apps with languages other than C++
17:08.58wolsniFeto: yep
17:09.34shevywolsni, ok that makes sense, but the reason I ask is that i am a bit confused. For example, in ruby there exist qtruby4 etc.. bindings. Is having kdebindings a prerequisite, or independent of this?
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17:10.01wolsniKDE apps are built on top of Qt
17:10.11wolsniQt doesn't depend on KDE at all though
17:10.12Fetook i got a default panel now... i guess i can just reconfigure it
17:10.17Skrot-Doesnt the KDE-bindings depend on the C++ version of Qt though?
17:10.23Fetothanks a bunch guys
17:10.30shevyhmm
17:10.44wolsniSkrot-: I believe that's right
17:10.55Skrot-E.g KDE's python bindings does not depend on Qt python bindings, but rather on libqt (c++)
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17:24.12Daskreech2HOw so?
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17:32.03Daskreech2are there any *nix tools that do audio CD spanning?
17:32.06Daskreech2Well FOSS as well
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17:32.16Daskreech2Nerolinux doesn't count
17:32.26wolsniwhat's audio CD spanning?
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17:32.40wolsniyou make a track list and it splits it up for you?
17:32.48Daskreech2wolsni: Burning a single file to multiple cds
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17:33.02Daskreech2or concert
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17:33.39metalfanim trying to install some applet to the panel, echo $KDEDIRS contains: /home/metalfan/tmp/compiz-fusion/install          the files are located (below install)  in    lib64/kde3/     is that ok?
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17:39.19superstonedDaskreech2: unless K3B can do it (look through the manuals?) I wouldn't count on it
17:40.36wolsniseems tough to automate anyway, you wouldn't want to split in the middle of a sentence
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17:43.48DaSkreechwolsni: Yeah But What if I don't care
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17:44.25strawDaSkreech: you've got a real way with words
17:44.54wolsniDaSkreech: i don't know, spend a half hour hacking together a script to split the track with mencoder?
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17:46.53pressenterAnyone knows how to fight with this?
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17:48.16DaSkreechstraw: Sorry :)
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17:49.22strawit's ok. a little diplomacy goes a long way when someone's trying to offer suggestions
17:50.23DaSkreechstraw: Oh the don't care thing? I was just saying that I dont' expect the software to be smart enough to know the difference between a break in flow etc.
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17:58.11DaSkreechNot that I don't care about the other stuff in general
17:59.03x_linkAnybody has lm-sensors/ksensors here?
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18:01.10DaSkreechwolsni: I'm guessing it would have to split it based on the Media size. I'm trying to figure out if it should do it based on size or time
18:01.34DaSkreech<PROTECTED>
18:02.05wolsniwell, iirc CD audio is a constant bitrate, so time would be what matters
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18:03.35x_linkAnybody know what AUX temp is?
18:07.59logixoulx_link: just guessing: a way to temporarily make the jack for your speakers (or mic) act like an aux one
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18:08.55DaSkreechlogixoul: I'm assuming temp is measured in C rather than dB
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18:09.32logixoulhm, I thought temp(orarily)
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18:10.49x_linklogixoul hmm ok
18:14.48DaSkreechHa ha I like Wendy's writing style
18:14.57logixoulwho is Wendy?
18:16.51DaSkreechplanetkde.org
18:17.02DaSkreechI don't know I don't recall seeing her blogs before
18:17.12DaSkreechShe's golden though
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18:50.33litbsomeone knows kconfigeditor?
18:50.58litbwhy doesn't it allow to edit the configfiles of newer KDE versions?
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18:51.17Sho_litb: It's very old and unmaintained, for one
18:51.24litbbut instead allows to edit the gconf database o.O
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19:13.11mth`MAWHi there, does anybody knows where I can find a reference for kommander?! (In best case dor the new parser)
19:13.33mth`MAWI am searching and searching, but do not find anything
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19:14.55sabayonuserhi
19:15.00PhilOuthi sabayonuser
19:15.32sabayonuseri have a question about linux sabayon
19:15.40sabayonusersorry im a n00b
19:15.40logixoulask in #sabayon ;)
19:15.47sabayonuserwell
19:16.05sabayonuserwhen i try to run it with kde interface it just freees
19:16.11sabayonuserfreeses
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19:16.27logixoulmth`MAW: did you google it?
19:16.37sabayonusermy config is .73 ghz
19:16.47sabayonuser64 mb radeon 300
19:16.55sabayonuser1.73 i mean
19:16.58mth`MAWlogixoul: Yes, of course I did!
19:17.29sabayonuser512 ram
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19:17.56logixoulmth`MAW: the reference is in the handbook
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19:18.12mth`MAWlogixoul: for the new parser?
19:18.45mth`MAWmhm I wonder, that haven't find it.
19:19.04mth`MAWI DO have the handbook, but there is no propper reference
19:19.45logixoulhow about http://web.archive.org/web/20070128205120/http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/parser/
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19:23.36CosmicRayI am trying to navigate in kmail solely by keyboard.  does anyone know how to select the html alternative in a multipart message using the keyboard only?  I can't seem to find any relevant shortcuts
19:23.55mth`MAWlogixoul: THAT looks promising
19:23.57mth`MAWthx
19:24.07logixoulmth`MAW: np
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19:29.02logixoulCosmicRay: the "load external references" shortcut seems to do what you want, albeit indirectly.
19:29.10logixoul(and with side effects)
19:29.40logixoulCosmicRay: alternatively you could make HTML the default part to be displayed - if that's what you want
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19:30.58logixoulCosmicRay: or, as another kludgy option, there's "Prefer HTML to plain text" shortcut which you might want to turn off after reading the mail, since you seem to indeed prefer plain text
19:31.26logixoulCosmicRay: but your question might be better answered in #kontact
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19:39.59boguhhi, is it possible to make a ssh connection with konqueror??
19:40.07Sho_boguh: sftp://
19:40.38boguhcool, thx
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19:46.12riwaMy file browser just stopped working after a reboot.. I try to launch it, and it ends up in the taskbar with a time-glass for about a minute to then disappear..
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19:46.40riwaI'm running latest version of everything
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19:48.27gavinbtriwa: are you clicking on the home icon or some such? try open a konsole and type konqueror
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19:49.12riwagavinbt: I tried it.. But nothing happened..
19:49.27gavinbtdid you press enter ;)
19:49.32riwagavinbt: However, I did log out, and then all of them appeared at the same time...
19:49.45gavinbtvewy interesting
19:50.00riwagavinbt: Works now though...
19:50.17gavinbtriwa: yarrr, nothing worse than a phantom
19:50.31riwagavinbt: Yup.. Just very odd..
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19:50.50riwaThat's why I don't like DE's..
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19:51.57alesanhi is there an application that will ring a bell at a specified time to remind me something?
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19:53.43litbcommit-digest is up!
19:55.46Sho_alesan: KAlarm
19:56.19alesanSho_, yes, much more complicated than what I'd need but it's ok :) thank you
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20:08.23litbuh, seems now everyone wants to create a plasma engine for his software :)
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20:11.35Sho_litb: Somebody already suggested one for Konversation even
20:11.52litb:)
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20:14.26CosmicRaylogixoul: (sorry, phone).  load external references doesn't do it.  I also want to be able to select a particular alternative from the bottom panel
20:14.49logixouldunno then
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20:32.15pressenterguess still noone knows what's with this dcop error?
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20:32.52logixoulwhat was it
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20:33.37pressenterI cannot start kde because of it.
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20:33.53jacekowskiwhere i can find results of konq benchmark?
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20:34.00logixoulpressenter: try running kde as another user
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20:34.17pressenterHmm, ok, i will.
20:34.28jacekowskipressenter: you killed dcopserver
20:34.39jacekowskipressenter: you cleaned /tmp?
20:34.43logixouljacekowski: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html ?
20:34.45pressenterjacekowski: I haven't started it even.
20:35.05jacekowskiprobably you wiped out dcop unix socket
20:35.35jacekowskilogixoul: i want only konq compared to other browsers
20:35.37pressenterjacekowski: I have this error from the first time i installed kde.
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20:36.10logixouljacekowski: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html#section6 ?
20:36.30pressenterjacekowski: Can you pastebin me your permissions?
20:36.30jacekowskiperformance
20:36.37jacekowskinot memory usage
20:37.00jacekowskidrwxrwxrwt 214 root   root       21560 2007-07-02 18:39 tmp
20:37.01pressenterBesides isn't tmp cleared at reboot?
20:37.16jacekowskidepends on distro
20:37.29jacekowskii store much data in /tmp
20:37.49logixouljacekowski: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html - uses a konq version from 2002 though.
20:37.52pressenterLooks alright.
20:38.08jacekowskiand
20:38.24logixouler, 2004
20:38.38jacekowskidrwx------   2 agata  users       1024 2007-06-24 11:57 kde-agata
20:39.03jacekowskihmmm
20:39.41jacekowskidrwxrwxrwt   2 root   root         152 2007-06-29 17:47 .ICE-unix
20:39.54jacekowskithere dcopserver store socket
20:40.04jacekowskisrwx------   1 root  root      0 2007-06-29 17:47 dcop24204-1183132027
20:40.05jacekowskisrwx------   1 agata users     0 2007-06-24 11:56 dcop3703-1182679006
20:40.11pressenterjacekowski: http://wklej.org/id/a6a213606b
20:40.48jacekowskils -la /tmp/.ICE-unix
20:41.16pressenterjacekowski: Same as yours.
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20:44.03litbi already adviced him too look at perms
20:44.52litbzack works on sonnet now
20:45.34pressenterHell, all the perms look ok.
20:45.50pressenterOk, will try running from other user.
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20:47.58litbpressenter: you may run the program which fails with strace
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20:48.14litbor run the script which executes it with the -x option
20:48.27litbthere are many possibilities to debug
20:48.46jacekowskior use gdb
20:49.00profoX`Something has annoyed me for a long time. I want to have a bookmark toolbar when I use konqueror as webbrowser, but it shouldn't be there when I'm browsing my regular files, is it possible to hide the bookmark bar when browsing files?
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20:50.09logixoulprofoX`: try this: go into web mode, enable bookmark toolbar, save profile, go into filemanagement mode, disable bookmark toolbar, save profile
20:50.19logixoul(shot in the dark)
20:50.27profoX`let's try!
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20:51.13Sho_logixoul: ah if only Konqueror's profile system would work that predictably and intuitively ;)
20:51.46logixoulhaha :)
20:52.07profoX`nah
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20:52.08profoX`damn
20:52.22profoX`it is so very annoying to have those bookmarks there when browsing files
20:52.36logixouluse dolphin!
20:53.00pressenterlol
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20:54.42profoX`logixoul: I don't know. Is Dolphin stable yet, and can it connect to FTP and Samba? and does it have a fun sidebar? that's all I need.
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20:55.17pressenterWow.
20:55.20profoX`(I suppose connecting to ftp/samba is no problem with kioslaves)
20:55.21logixoulyes, it's stable. yes, it can. yes, it does, if by "fun" you mean "barely useful", at least in the kde3 version :)
20:55.42logixoulyou suppose correctly
20:55.44pressenterWhile using strace... well i get a lot on no such file or dir errors. :/
20:56.00profoX`logixoul: well, with useful I mean previews of text/html files etc.
20:56.05pressenteropen("/usr/share/pixmaps/default/index.theme", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
20:56.13pressenterAnd ish like that.
20:56.14profoX`s/useful/fun
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20:57.01logixoulprofoX`: hmm... not sure. you do of course get previews as thumbnails in lieu of icons.
20:57.17profoX`well thats sómething :)
20:57.42udoprogim using irssi trough kde->xterm and wan't to alt+n myself to different windows in irssi, but the keyboard signal doesn't reach home. How do i do this?
20:57.56udoprogim not sure if its kde or xterm preventing this
20:58.11logixouludoprog: I can't help, but try konsole instead.
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20:58.46udoproglogixoul: so you don't think its kde preventing this?
20:58.56profoX`logixoul: I'm going to play around with dolphin a bit then :) thank you
20:59.06logixoulnp
20:59.11profoX`or, well, d3lphin :)
20:59.13udoprogand btw, im not using konsole, im using xterm
20:59.20profoX`as this KDE 3 maintained port seems to be called
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21:00.03boguhwhy doesnt kwrite daemon show me notifications about shutdown etc?
21:00.35litbkonsole scrolls faster than xterm
21:00.58logixouludoprog: I'd say the problem is in xterm, not in KDE. not sure.
21:01.33udoproghm... xterm channel is dead
21:02.07litbpressenter: that's normal
21:02.19litbuse -oafile to redirect output
21:02.34litbthen after you exit the app, use less to browse it and search for /tmp
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21:04.49DvineLordhow do i resize pictures in konqueror?
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21:08.25litbpressenter: that is: "strace -ooutput <yourcommand>; less output"
21:10.12logixoulDvineLord: depends on the image-viewing component you're using. In most cases you can find zooming options under the view menu
21:10.33logixoulDvineLord: you might also be able to ctrl+scroll to the same effect
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21:11.33DvineLorddidnt work
21:11.45DvineLordthis is for the webbrowser part
21:12.02DvineLordim using slax kill bill newest version
21:12.04pressenteropen("/opt/kde/lib/libkhtml.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 3
21:12.14pressenteranything wrong in this?
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21:12.59logixoulDvineLord: ctrl+plus?
21:13.21xstApparently there has been posted a patch for this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134774 for a long time now. So why isn't it implemented?
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21:13.35DvineLordna
21:13.43DvineLordowell
21:14.03MinceRorwell
21:14.04logixoulDvineLord: try another component such as gwenview's
21:16.53logixoulxst: probably nobody has noticed so far. not much you can do I think.
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21:17.43xstCan't I notice someone about the patch then? :-)
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21:28.33profoX`i think i like delphin
21:28.39profoX`but the location bar is stuck to the frame
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21:28.56profoX`and I am used to having it below my application
21:29.27logixoulyou mean you have your konq locationbar in the bottom?
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21:31.21profoX`logixoul: yes
21:32.06profoX`also, the system menu applet I use to access locations uses konqueror and it seems like I can't change it.. or I'll have to create a custom menu maybe
21:33.03logixoulprofoX`: I once talked to the dolph author about making the locationbars normal movable toolbars, but he disagreed, stating that they are specific to each view (rather than to the window) and so need to use a different interaction model
21:33.23logixoulprofoX`: I don't really agree with him either
21:33.27logixoulbut oh well
21:33.51logixoulprofoX`: see the handbook for instructions about making dolph the default filemanager
21:33.58profoX`ok logixoul
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21:35.10danielbwhow can I get korganizer to actually run an external program with arguyments on alerts
21:35.16danielbwit seems to not be working
21:35.19logixouldanielbw: ask in #kontact
21:35.31danielbwlogixoul: ok
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21:36.49logixoulxst: not sure if it's good etiquette, but you can find the kipi maintainer and contact him with the issue.
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21:37.45xstlogixoul: Hmm, I see your point. Thanks anyway
21:37.46logixoulxst: looks like you need joern.ahrens@kdemail.net
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21:52.27KanRiNiNHi.  I just compiled KDE 3.5.6 and KDM doesn't start.  I think it may be because my KDM lacks a config, but there' snothing in /usr/local/share/config/kdm
21:52.34KanRiNiNi.e. there's no example to copy over
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22:16.02TR3NTSalut tout le monde
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22:16.33TR3NTHi all ;)
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22:33.08psycosehi, using KDE with Ubuntu Feisty (i386, up to date KDE 3.5.6) lib Qt 3 & 4, i got lot's of undefined reference, all from QtScript module any tips thanks ?
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22:35.04psycosehi, using KDE with Ubuntu Feisty (i386, up to date KDE 3.5.6) lib Qt 3 & 4, i got lot's of undefined reference, all from QtScript module any tips thanks , here it is http://rafb.net/p/4PXPgA75.html?
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22:37.28imachinehello ;-)
22:37.48imachineI have a suggestion for ark, where might I best leave it ?
22:38.00imachineor is it a semi-dead project, to be replaced by some new API in kde4 ?
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22:44.11KanRiNiNHi guys.  I'm trying to genkdmconf but it's saying it cannot copy the config/kdm/Xaccess
22:44.55KanRiNiNWhich manual page would teach me how to get rid of the boot menu so it autoboots the default?
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22:47.48ryanakcaIs it possible to make kontact dock in the systray instead of just KMail?
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22:57.15psm321can someone help me out w/ some questions about kmymoney?
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22:59.16wolsnipsm321: don't ask to ask
23:01.43psm321wolsni: sorry
23:02.07wolsnipsm321: no apologies necessary, what's your question?
23:02.42psm321i want to keep track of cash spending, but also cash withdrawls and can't quite figure out how to do that. if  put it in as a "Cash Withdrawl", that's an expense and i don't "Have" the money any more
23:03.14wolsnipsm321: create a cash account and do cash withdrawals as transfers to that account
23:03.24psm321btw, i've never used a personal finance program before, and my understanding is primarily from gnucash documentatiaon (i read the docs thoughroughly but i could never bring myself to use it)
23:03.36psm321wolsni: ok, i'll try that
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23:05.21psm321wolsni: for the pay to, should i just use something like "me" and use it consistently?
23:05.28psm321or is there a specific convention?
23:05.48wolsnino conventions, just pick something that makes sense to you
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23:06.22psm321ok, thanks
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23:06.44wolsnifor transfers you can leave it blank too if you want
23:06.52psm321k
23:07.39psm321also, just so i know, can kmymoney do gnucash export in case i decide to switch at some point? (no big deal, just wondering)
23:08.03psm321or i guess i could use QIF as in intermediary
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23:12.39wolsnii don't know, I have no idea what gnucash can import :)
23:15.58psm321k
23:16.10psm321wolsni: thanks for your help!
23:16.25wolsnino problem
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