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00:01.19 | JDoyle | howdy |
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00:02.37 | JDoyle | anyone home? |
00:03.53 | qupada | nope, i'm at work |
00:04.28 | JDoyle | hehe |
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00:04.47 | JDoyle | I have a question about the main panel in kcontrol |
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00:05.40 | JDoyle | How can I change what is displayed for 'system:' |
00:06.19 | JDoyle | It currently displays the kernel version, I would like it to say the distro and version number |
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00:22.44 | JDoyle | anyone? |
00:23.23 | Tanja | yeah |
00:23.57 | JDoyle | I have a question about the main panel in kcontro |
00:24.09 | JDoyle | How can I change what is displayed for 'system:' |
00:24.23 | JDoyle | It currently displays the kernel version, I would like it to say the distro name and version number |
00:24.34 | JDoyle | Any ideas? |
00:25.01 | JDoyle | 3.5.6 |
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00:25.24 | jacekowski | <PROTECTED> |
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00:28.13 | JDoyle | O.K. I found the file. How do I get kcontrol to disply the info? |
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00:31.17 | heavensrevenge | hello |
00:31.29 | JDoyle | hey |
00:31.29 | heavensrevenge | how cxan i customize or alter the right click context menu?? |
00:31.48 | heavensrevenge | id like to add ark's extract into the right click |
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00:34.45 | seoulman | The ark extract option doesn't appear already if you right-click on an archive? |
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00:38.23 | JDoyle | The actions in the context menu are .desktop config files kept in /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus |
00:38.44 | JDoyle | You should have the ark extract option already |
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00:41.04 | unity | hey, does anyone know if i can hide hidden folder in filesize view, folders and files such as .system/ ? |
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01:28.24 | KanRiNiN | http://en.pastebin.ca/599162 could someone help debug my startkde? I posted a script session. |
01:28.33 | KanRiNiN | Thanks in advance |
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01:29.56 | StarScream | KanRiNiN: are you running startx as root ? |
01:30.05 | KanRiNiN | yes StarScream |
01:30.12 | StarScream | KanRiNiN: thats your problem |
01:30.41 | StarScream | kdm is started by root, but x is just run as a normal user |
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01:31.40 | KanRiNiN | StarScream: startx runs fine as a normal user, but startkde still throws errors |
01:31.59 | StarScream | startkde must be run from xinit |
01:32.23 | StarScream | why not just startx or kdm / gdm/ |
01:33.56 | KanRiNiN | StarScream: I'm a bit of a newb. How can I run it from xinit? I know there's an echo command but I imagine there's a file I can put exec startkde in |
01:34.18 | KanRiNiN | that and the fact that I'm back from dinner with 7 beers doesn't help much |
01:34.28 | StarScream | KanRiNiN: so if you are new , then why are you trying to do it that way ? |
01:34.33 | StarScream | i really don't understand |
01:34.37 | mobtek | put startkde in your ~/.xinitrc and then try it :) |
01:34.46 | StarScream | even as an experienced user i have no idea why you would do that |
01:35.59 | KanRiNiN | thanks mobtek. |
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01:38.48 | mobtek | with just startx KanRiNiN_ |
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01:39.02 | KanRiNiN | excellent. I finally have a working kde :-) |
01:39.07 | KanRiNiN | I was getting sick of lynx and irssi |
01:39.10 | KanRiNiN | that's again mobtek |
01:39.13 | mobtek | hehe cool |
01:39.35 | mobtek | using kdm is nice too for booting and just ignoring the console and saves you having to type startx :P |
01:39.48 | KanRiNiN | to answer your question StarScream, I switched from Kubuntu to FreeBSD. in kubuntu they do everything including wipe your ass for you |
01:39.57 | mobtek | heheh and how |
01:40.04 | mobtek | my wife loves her kubuntu machine |
01:40.31 | StarScream | well thats cool, but i also run freeBSD and i still don't know why you would run startkde standalone |
01:40.52 | StarScream | what mobtek suggested will work with startx |
01:41.01 | KanRiNiN | mobtek: Where can I learn how to use kdm instead of typing in startx all the time? Do you know of a wiki off the top? |
01:41.09 | StarScream | or using kdm or another login manager will also work. |
01:42.15 | KanRiNiN | well, I have to load the qt libs anyway |
01:42.18 | KanRiNiN | so I might as well use kdm |
01:42.28 | mobtek | hmmm it's a setting in /etc |
01:42.32 | mobtek | trying to remember which one |
01:42.36 | mobtek | dunno with freebsd hehe |
01:42.58 | StarScream | <PROTECTED> |
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01:43.15 | StarScream | well i've installed kde into opt |
01:43.21 | mobtek | StarScream: yeah it's obvious for a user that .xinitrc is the place for the startkde command though |
01:43.38 | mobtek | let me check my gentoo vm |
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01:49.13 | mobtek | KanRiNiN: n administrator of a multi-user system may wish to have a graphical login screen to welcome users. XDM can be used, as described earlier. However, KDE includes an alternative, kdm, which is designed to look more attractive and include more login-time options. In particular, users can easily choose (via a menu) which desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, or something else) to run after logging on. |
01:49.19 | mobtek | To enable kdm, the ttyv8 entry in /etc/ttys has to be adapted. The line should look as follows: |
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01:49.23 | mobtek | ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure |
01:49.24 | mobtek | from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html |
01:50.28 | stoned | hi |
01:50.38 | stoned | what is a good mac os style panel for kde |
01:51.39 | KanRiNiN | thansk mobtek |
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01:53.49 | mobtek | stoned, just make your panel transparent :) |
01:54.04 | mobtek | looks nice just no silly zooming |
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01:54.38 | hays | is there an easy way to adjust the CPU-intensiveness of eye candy settings in KDE? |
01:55.10 | stoned | no really |
01:55.15 | stoned | I want a zooming one |
01:55.21 | stoned | where the icons bounce n shit |
01:57.45 | stoned | search dock |
01:57.48 | stoned | doh |
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01:59.29 | jlowell | hi |
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01:59.34 | stoned | yo |
02:00.00 | jlowell | is there anyway to set menu to be bellow buttons in konqueror? |
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02:04.14 | om | never mind |
02:04.15 | om | i found it thanks |
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02:10.18 | pcbshelp | jlowell: only way is to make it a float. |
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02:16.36 | pcbshelp | i like the way u can split konqurer, for drag and drop jobs. |
02:17.02 | pcbshelp | have an ftp window on right, and normal /usr window on left :) |
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02:21.58 | pcbshelp | why kde control menu doesnt clear firefox history. |
02:22.16 | level1 | Hi, i'm using kdevelop to manage a java program... it has a real time error report (called "problems") that has a long list of errors... its clear that the errors are from a very old version of java, probably gij... how can I redirect it to the newest version I have on my computer? |
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02:59.25 | Simeon_H | adobe are bastards |
02:59.48 | Simeon_H | I know trolltech make a lot of money from them, but they should cut off their Qt licences all the same -_- |
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03:03.56 | KanRiNiN | Hey, I compiled KMplayer but whenever I try to play a DVD it says xine not initiated. I don't want xine, I prefer mplayer. |
03:04.15 | KanRiNiN | Could someone help me along? |
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03:08.52 | kinection | hello, i'm wondering. is it possible to have mutt and kmail work together? |
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03:09.44 | wolsni | KanRiNiN: I don't have KMplayer installed right now, but it should be a fairly straightforward option in the settings dialog |
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03:10.11 | wolsni | kinection: work together how? |
03:10.37 | kinection | wolsni: as in, sometimes checking my mail through mutt, sometimes through kmail without mail being lost |
03:10.42 | dfgas | anyone know how to get kde4 on ubuntu 7.04? |
03:11.27 | KanRiNiN | wolsni: I simply deleted all references to xine in the confi ;-) |
03:11.31 | KanRiNiN | works fine now |
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03:12.25 | SAS_Spidey01 | Does any one know if Baghira can cause system slow down ? e.g. slow loading context menus / switching between windows / e.t.c. |
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03:12.50 | wolsni | SAS_Spidey01: I believe Baghira is one of the slower styles out there, yes |
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03:15.49 | SAS_Spidey01 | Then I guess its time to switch back to my beloved keramik; cheaper buying a newer laptop ! lol |
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03:25.07 | SAS_Spidey01 | Figures bagging baghira fixed it and restarting X fixed the looks of stuff |
03:25.17 | wolsni | cool |
03:25.51 | SAS_Spidey01 | Took quite awhile to configure it so it wouldn't hurt my eyes..... just to have to dump it |
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03:30.19 | Shirakawasuna | would someone be willing to download my icon theme and see if it works? I got reports that it doesn't but they weren't at all specific. |
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03:35.21 | TomasuAway | is there a way to increase the number of forwards konqueror will follow before it dies with a cyclic link error? |
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03:36.45 | TheSimkin | forwards? |
03:36.49 | TheSimkin | what do you mean by forwards? |
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03:54.39 | Shirakawasuna | TheSimkin: as opposed to the back button |
03:54.52 | Shirakawasuna | I think |
03:54.55 | Shirakawasuna | TomasuAway: is that what you mean? |
03:54.56 | wolsni | Shirakawasuna: not at all |
03:55.16 | Shirakawasuna | mailing lists? |
03:55.27 | wolsni | websites can forward you from one URL to another, I believe at the HTTP level |
03:55.28 | TomasuAway | Forwards as in "Location:" headers or 30x responses from the server. |
03:55.38 | TomasuAway | redirects that seem to recurse, but don't really |
03:56.25 | Shirakawasuna | ah |
04:00.21 | TheSimkin | Shirakawasuna: ahhh. |
04:00.24 | TheSimkin | i didn't know there was a limit |
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04:00.55 | Shirakawasuna | TheSimkin: no, no, I'm wrong :) |
04:01.09 | Shirakawasuna | feel free to smack me a little ;) |
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04:07.52 | wsjunior | is any package needed to be able to view movies previews inside konqueror? |
04:08.29 | wolsni | wsjunior: kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree from livna |
04:08.53 | wolsni | sorry, thought this was #fedora |
04:09.09 | wolsni | it depends on your distro though |
04:09.15 | wsjunior | kubuntu |
04:09.17 | wsjunior | any idea? |
04:09.30 | wsjunior | there isnt such package here :/ |
04:09.53 | terr_ | are there any chemists in our midst? I need some guidance and so far no-one is #chemistry is responding. |
04:10.29 | wolsni | well, look in the "view->preview" menu and see if movies are one of the preview types available |
04:11.06 | wsjunior | wolsni: ya all checked |
04:11.22 | wolsni | ask in #kubuntu then |
04:11.22 | wsjunior | thats why i thought some package was missing |
04:11.28 | wsjunior | i did :-) |
04:11.32 | terr_ | I'm making some rhubard wine and want to test for and percipitate out hte oxalic acid |
04:11.35 | wolsni | or search their forums |
04:12.21 | wsjunior | wolsni: got it.. libarts1-xine |
04:12.29 | wolsni | cool |
04:12.31 | wsjunior | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1237990 |
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04:13.58 | sparr | uǝʞoɹq s,ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ |
04:16.41 | Schalken | Where can I make it so that when I middle click a link in Konq it opens in a new tab? |
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04:17.28 | wolsni | Schalken: Settings->Configure Konqueror->Web Behavior |
04:17.52 | wolsni | "Open links in new tab instead of new window" |
04:18.36 | Schalken | wolsni: ah yes, but can i make it so it only opens in a new tab when middle clicked? |
04:18.47 | Schalken | if a link tries to open in a new window it should open in a new window |
04:19.08 | wolsni | hm, I'm not sure about that |
04:20.00 | Schalken | ah well, im happy with that for now :) |
04:21.25 | Dhraakellian | Why would konqueror default to Japanese encoding for everything? |
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04:23.03 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: there is something about text encoding in the settings... |
04:23.05 | Schalken | somewhere... |
04:23.24 | Dhraakellian | fonts? |
04:23.26 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: view > set encoding > automatic |
04:23.29 | Dhraakellian | Default encoding: utf8 |
04:23.34 | Schalken | on the menus |
04:23.54 | Dhraakellian | Schalken: yes, I know, and when I go into that menu, it always shows Japanese as being selected |
04:24.06 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: then change it |
04:24.19 | Dhraakellian | for every single fscking page? |
04:24.30 | Dhraakellian | s/page/tab/ perhaps |
04:24.46 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: oh, so it sets that to jap by default, okay... |
04:24.56 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: default encoding...hmm.. |
04:25.08 | Dhraakellian | default encoding is set to utf8 |
04:25.17 | Dhraakellian | it's like it's autodetecting everything as japanese |
04:25.23 | Dhraakellian | which isn't a problem for basic ascii |
04:25.33 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: i have my default set to "use language encoding" |
04:26.05 | Dhraakellian | nope |
04:26.18 | chealer | hi. since I use Debian 4.0 (KDE 3.5.5) on my laptop, my keyboard locks frequently until I close my KDE session. I can then relogin through kdm and use my keyboard normally in the new session. The lock happens when I type (for example, it happened when trying to join this channel using konversation keyboard shortcuts). the lock is pretty much total. IIRC I can't vt-switch using the keyboard. does this ring a bell for someone? |
04:26.21 | Schalken | Dhraakellian: no good? well thats all i god. |
04:26.23 | Schalken | got* |
04:26.39 | Schalken | chealer: tldr |
04:26.44 | Schalken | (too long, didnt read) |
04:27.00 | chealer | Schalken: well, thanks anyway |
04:27.08 | Schalken | lol! |
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04:43.16 | Shirakawasuna | chealer: sorry, not sure. I'm guessing you've asked #debian, too? |
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04:48.42 | DaSkreech | can I mv ~/.kde ? |
04:49.11 | wolsni | DaSkreech: i imagine so |
04:50.20 | DaSkreech | ok |
04:50.40 | DaSkreech | but rm ~/.kde is a banning offence? :) |
04:50.59 | wolsni | DaSkreech: nope, it's just often a dumb move |
04:51.27 | chealer | Shirakawasuna: no. that only happened when using KDE (although I only use KDE as session type). I imagine that if closing the KDE session fixes, that points to a KDE issue. |
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04:54.11 | chealer | actually, I believe I did ask #debian-kde |
04:56.12 | Shirakawasuna | chealer: it could be, I 'm just suggesting it in case it helps |
04:56.22 | Shirakawasuna | chealer: I've often gotten distro-specific kde issues, it's no fun :/ |
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04:58.05 | chealer | Shirakawasuna: yeah (though this is Debian stable) |
04:59.23 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, that's true |
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04:59.35 | Shirakawasuna | I almost always ask in my distro's channel first because I get better results, though :) |
04:59.41 | wolsni | chealer: you might want to check out bugs.kde.org too |
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05:03.10 | stoned | I have /dev/sdb2/home/stoned/blah and I want to mount not /dev/sdb2 but that whole path to say ~/mnt |
05:03.21 | stoned | is this possible or can one only mount devices |
05:03.23 | stoned | ? |
05:03.40 | stoned | I haven't tried it cuz I don't wanna break anything I might break something |
05:04.05 | chealer | wolsni: right. the only idea I have is to search "keyboard lock" on all components. that didn't find anything relevant. |
05:04.20 | wolsni | stoned: device nodes can't have subdirectories |
05:04.45 | stoned | wolsni: so there is no way to do this/ |
05:04.45 | stoned | ? |
05:05.02 | wolsni | stoned: what's wrong with mounting it and making a symlink? |
05:05.19 | stoned | yeh but... |
05:05.32 | stoned | I think my drive might have errors |
05:05.39 | stoned | so I'm backing stuff up to another drive |
05:05.52 | stoned | then i'll continue to use this drive and see if it is really going bad |
05:05.58 | stoned | it was giving me errors but then it stopped |
05:06.08 | stoned | something about lost interrupts |
05:06.33 | stoned | ata4.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4) |
05:06.34 | stoned | ata4.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5) |
05:06.34 | stoned | ata4: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs |
05:06.48 | stoned | and |
05:06.50 | stoned | ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0 |
05:06.50 | stoned | ata4.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20) |
05:06.50 | stoned | ata4.00: tag 0 cmd 0x25 Emask 0x20 stat 0x51 err 0x84 (host bus error) |
05:07.01 | stoned | stuff like this, and I have no idea what the problem might be |
05:07.09 | wolsni | stoned: stop flooding, this channel isn't even about hardware support |
05:07.13 | stoned | all I did was take out the drive from an old pc and put it into another pc |
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05:08.12 | stoned | I wasn't asking for any support on hardware |
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05:09.57 | stoned | omg, my flooding interrupted such a grand conference in here, everyone seems so annoyed |
05:10.01 | stoned | zomg! |
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07:38.15 | Chani | oh bugger |
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07:39.09 | Chani | I switched to offline mode becaues my net access was cut off, and I just switched back to "online mode", but kontact is failing to attempt to download anything |
07:39.28 | Chani | and konq was running really slowly, then crashed whn I quit |
07:39.42 | Chani | and my battery monitor thinks I'm not plugged in |
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07:43.45 | Schalken | does anyone know of a KDE theme style that is also avaliabel for Gtk? |
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07:44.40 | Chani | kio is just plain messed up :( |
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07:48.43 | MilhousePunkRock | Hello everyone! |
07:48.50 | markey | ahoy |
07:49.06 | MilhousePunkRock | What is needed to have a NFS share show up in media:/? Hey markey... |
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07:49.18 | markey | no clue |
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07:54.23 | shwouchk | is there any way I can set what irc:// starts in kde apps? |
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07:57.03 | Chani | phew, logging out fixed it |
07:57.43 | Schalken | shwouchk: kinfocenter |
07:58.08 | Schalken | shwouchk: ...or not |
07:58.14 | Schalken | put irc://something into konq |
08:00.31 | shwouchk | Schalken: that starts kopete |
08:00.39 | shwouchk | I want it to start konversation |
08:00.55 | Schalken | shwouchk: edit.... |
08:00.56 | Schalken | something |
08:00.58 | Schalken | that |
08:01.03 | Schalken | ..changes... |
08:01.06 | Schalken | that ;) |
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08:01.17 | shwouchk | wow |
08:01.21 | shwouchk | very useful |
08:01.23 | shwouchk | thanks |
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08:22.34 | lampyris | hello |
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08:26.54 | lampyris | i'm looking for a kde's client mail besides kmail |
08:27.02 | lampyris | it exists? |
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08:27.56 | shwouchk | lampyris: kmail IS kde's mail client... you can get some other client if you don't like it but it won't be kde's client |
08:28.34 | lampyris | ah, ok... |
08:28.40 | shwouchk | lampyris: I suggest mozilla-thunderbird or evolution if you want to try something else |
08:28.44 | bram85 | lampyris: if you use IMAP only you could try mailody |
08:28.48 | shwouchk | anyway, g2g |
08:28.51 | shwouchk | bye |
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08:29.23 | AmyRose | lampyris: Opera's built-in e-mail client is nice |
08:29.36 | AmyRose | I still find myself liking KMail the best though |
08:29.45 | AmyRose | Evolution is also nice |
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08:30.52 | lampyris | is better kmail or thunderbird? :S |
08:31.07 | AmyRose | lampyris: I really love KMail |
08:31.14 | AmyRose | but there are a bunch of good one |
08:31.16 | AmyRose | ones* |
08:31.30 | AmyRose | Seamonkey's mail client is nice |
08:31.45 | AmyRose | lampyris: What browser do you use? |
08:31.57 | lampyris | yes, but i search a stand-alone |
08:32.28 | lampyris | i used opera.. and opera's mail client... but now i want to use firefox |
08:32.38 | AmyRose | lampyris: I recommend Evolution over Thunderbird. |
08:32.53 | AmyRose | but my favorite e-mail client is still KMail |
08:32.54 | lampyris | evolution (gtk) on kde? |
08:33.05 | AmyRose | lampyris: Yeah, GTK apps work fine on KDE |
08:33.11 | Simeon_H | yeah |
08:33.14 | AmyRose | I use several of them myself |
08:33.49 | AmyRose | lampyris: Firefox is a GTK app, so shouldn't that be proof enough? :P |
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08:34.28 | AmyRose | lampyris: You're not exactly restricted to Qt applications on KDE, and you can also run KDE software in GNOME if you want to. |
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08:34.59 | lampyris | at one time i used xfce/gtk.. but i decided to use kde becouse i like very much kde's apps :D |
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08:35.33 | AmyRose | lampyris: Well, you are not limited to just apps designed for your chosen desktop ;) |
08:35.44 | AmyRose | It's something I really like about Linux |
08:35.51 | lampyris | yes, i know.. but after that computer is slower... |
08:35.57 | AmyRose | lampyris: Not really |
08:36.02 | lampyris | (sorry for my bad english :) ) |
08:36.17 | AmyRose | lampyris: Your English is fine :) |
08:36.23 | lampyris | tnx :D |
08:36.45 | AmyRose | I just like KMail the best out of all the mail clients I've tried |
08:36.57 | lampyris | btw, it should load both gtk and qt, with libraries |
08:37.07 | lampyris | i'll try kmail |
08:37.08 | lampyris | :) |
08:37.32 | AmyRose | Well, KDE doesn't have to do *anything* to support GTK applications. |
08:37.55 | lampyris | mmm |
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08:37.57 | lampyris | Bug critical di kmail (-> 4:3.5.7-1) <forwarded> |
08:37.57 | lampyris | <PROTECTED> |
08:38.20 | AmyRose | X is what supports both, pretty much... |
08:39.05 | AmyRose | I've never had any real problems with KMail in the 2 years I've used it. |
08:39.42 | AmyRose | lampyris: My favorite feature of KMail is how you can start it up, and have a system tray icon that tells you when new mail arrived |
08:39.43 | lampyris | ok :) |
08:40.10 | AmyRose | lampyris: It's nice to have KMail in the system tray and changing the icon to tell me when I have mail :) |
08:40.27 | AmyRose | that way I don't have to worry about it unless it changes to a number :D |
08:40.28 | lampyris | and it integrates very well in kontact :) |
08:40.36 | AmyRose | lampyris: Yeah, it's part of Kontact |
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08:40.56 | AmyRose | hi PhilRod |
08:41.22 | AmyRose | lampyris: Nice IRC client you use :D |
08:41.36 | AmyRose | I actually used to be an xchat user until I forced myself to try Konversation |
08:41.50 | AmyRose | now I'm hooked on its subtle but very handy features |
08:42.07 | lampyris | AmyRose: what distro are you using? |
08:42.13 | AmyRose | lampyris: Kubuntu Feisty |
08:42.20 | PhilRod | hi AmyRose |
08:42.24 | AmyRose | how are you, PhilRod? |
08:42.31 | lampyris | AmyRose: eheh :) it is the first time that i use konversation :) |
08:42.41 | AmyRose | lampyris: What did you use before? |
08:42.46 | lampyris | xchat |
08:42.51 | PhilRod | good thanks, but a little stressed - lots to do this week |
08:43.09 | AmyRose | Yeah, me too... my mom's getting married this week |
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08:43.31 | AmyRose | lampyris: xchat is nice, but I still like Konversation better :D |
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08:45.11 | PhilRod | work time |
08:45.12 | lampyris | AmyRose: eheh.. yes! |
08:46.26 | AmyRose | lampyris: :) |
08:46.49 | eNTi | is there a plan for kde4 to make one easily switch between sound devices for i/o? |
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08:47.45 | Freeman77 | does anyone know of a straightforward way of switching between separate desktop sessions, like in gnome? |
08:47.58 | benJIman | eNTi: I heard it mentioned, don't know if it's implemented yet. |
08:48.11 | benJIman | Freeman77: how do you mean, virtual desktops, or different X servers? |
08:48.29 | Freeman77 | i'd like to run another session under different credentials |
08:48.40 | benJIman | Freeman77: kmenu -> start new session |
08:48.45 | benJIman | then kmenu -> change session -> select |
08:48.55 | benJIman | Or if you're using new kickoff menu it's under the leave tab. |
08:50.10 | eNTi | hmm... can i synchronize gCalendar with KOrganizer? ;) |
08:50.38 | Freeman77 | i'm in 3.5 and i just don't see it |
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08:51.24 | SSJ | Freeman77: Which distro? |
08:51.32 | Freeman77 | slack 11 |
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08:52.34 | Freeman77 | i have a Lock Session and a Log Out |
08:52.41 | Freeman77 | there's no change session |
08:52.48 | AmyRose | Freeman77: Are you using KDM? |
08:53.12 | AmyRose | It won't work if you're not using KDM to log in |
08:53.19 | Freeman77 | no, startx |
08:53.19 | lampyris | AmyRose: yes, kmail is very nice :) |
08:53.32 | AmyRose | Freeman77: That would explain the problem. You need to run a display manager to see it. |
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08:53.40 | Freeman77 | alright |
08:53.43 | AmyRose | lampyris: Agreed :D |
08:53.50 | AmyRose | Freeman77: Doesn't runlevel 4 run a dm?" |
08:54.08 | Freeman77 | no, i just start another user in a separate tty and try to 'startx' |
08:54.09 | AmyRose | I used Slack 11 in a class recently |
08:54.34 | AmyRose | Freeman77: Yeah, you have to init 4 to see a display manager... |
08:54.35 | Freeman77 | and it dies b/c the server's already running under different credentials |
08:54.45 | Freeman77 | hmm |
08:54.51 | lampyris | . |
08:55.02 | AmyRose | lampyris: Yes? |
08:55.19 | lampyris | nothing, i'm testing konversation :P |
08:55.24 | AmyRose | heh |
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08:56.25 | lampyris | becouse it doesn't distiguish my messages from other users' messages |
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08:57.05 | lampyris | in xchat, they are gray and other's ones black |
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09:01.13 | AmyRose | lampyris: Settings --> Configure Konversation, then look at the Colors section |
09:01.45 | AmyRose | Konversation on my machine just gives each person a random color |
09:02.08 | lampyris | yes.. this is the default setting |
09:02.31 | lampyris | i try to set 2 different color... one for me and one for others |
09:02.35 | AmyRose | Well, you should be able to configure it the way you want it to |
09:03.00 | lampyris | i keep default settings :D |
09:03.01 | AmyRose | or you may go back to xchat if you want to--there's nothing stopping you from running it in KDE |
09:03.12 | lampyris | eheh |
09:03.13 | lampyris | yes |
09:03.36 | AmyRose | I have to admit that xchat does have a couple of features I wished Konversation had |
09:03.57 | AmyRose | But what I cannot figure out is how mIRC got to be so popular with its horrible interface |
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09:04.16 | dozer | hi |
09:04.20 | AmyRose | It's the only IRC client I've ever hated |
09:04.24 | AmyRose | dozer: Hi. |
09:04.25 | dozer | kontact is crashing on launch for me - any ideas? |
09:04.36 | AmyRose | dozer: What distro/OS are you using? |
09:04.44 | dozer | kubuntu feisty |
09:04.50 | dozer | just done an update |
09:05.02 | AmyRose | dozer: Did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.7? |
09:05.26 | lampyris | dozer for me too... are you using debian sid? |
09:05.27 | dozer | AmyRose: how would I check? |
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09:06.03 | dozer | ah, I'm on 3.5.6 |
09:06.06 | AmyRose | dozer: Well, if you don't know, then the answer is probably "no" since you'd have to follow the directions on kubuntu.org to upgrade to 3.5.7 |
09:06.34 | lampyris | dozer: apt-cache show kontact |
09:07.01 | dozer | kk- upgrading now |
09:07.05 | AmyRose | dozer: I recommend upgrading to 3.5.7, since it fixed a number of bugs |
09:07.47 | AmyRose | dozer: Are you following the directions here? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php |
09:08.07 | dozer | yup AmyRose |
09:08.12 | AmyRose | Goody :D |
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09:08.25 | AmyRose | lampyris: You're using Debian Sid? |
09:08.47 | lampyris | now yes |
09:08.50 | AmyRose | wow |
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09:08.51 | AmyRose | I don't have the guts to use that... |
09:09.27 | lampyris | why? |
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09:10.13 | AmyRose | Because I would not really feel comfortable using a system that's basically a series development snapshots |
09:10.31 | AmyRose | I prefer having stable releases with updates in between |
09:10.56 | AmyRose | and I also like the frequency of Kubuntu releases, not to mention the fact that they let us have the latest KDE as well :D |
09:11.10 | lampyris | sid is quite stable... btw, it has the same packages of ubuntu |
09:11.10 | lampyris | :) |
09:11.21 | AmyRose | yeah, I know |
09:11.27 | AmyRose | My first distro was Debian Woody |
09:11.45 | lampyris | but yes, now there are some problem with libktnef.so libraries |
09:11.49 | AmyRose | I just loved how much software was available in the package repo |
09:12.01 | Simeon_H | my first distro was MEPIS |
09:12.22 | AmyRose | My first distro was Debian Woody when it was 3 years old :P |
09:12.28 | lampyris | i'm going to change distro.. |
09:12.35 | AmyRose | lampyris: Why? |
09:13.20 | lampyris | i don't know :P Debian is a good distro but i don't like it very much |
09:13.27 | AmyRose | what's wrong with it? |
09:13.44 | AmyRose | I loved Debian for the most part |
09:14.20 | lampyris | there isn't a real problem, but i don't feel with it |
09:14.46 | AmyRose | When I started using Linux, I really didn't mind how much configuration was involved since I wasn't afraid to learn the ins and outs of Linux, but I didn't like how sparse the releases are... |
09:15.21 | lampyris | i'm think to pass to gentoo... but i don't know... i'm confused :P |
09:15.47 | AmyRose | I guess you could say I was one of the few n00bs who acted like a novice rather than assuming that because I knew Windows I'd be an all-around computer guru... |
09:16.01 | AmyRose | lampyris: Gentoo? Do you REALLY want to sit around and wait for everything to compile? |
09:16.25 | AmyRose | I have no patience and would not be able to wait that long |
09:16.54 | lampyris | eh, it takes a lot of time... but you disable what you don't use |
09:17.14 | AmyRose | yeah |
09:17.30 | AmyRose | I had patience when learning Linux, but I just don't like waiting... |
09:17.41 | lampyris | i like ubuntu... but it installs a lot of things/driver/etc that i don't need... |
09:17.57 | AmyRose | I settled on Kubuntu because I'm lazy :P |
09:18.11 | lampyris | i'm too :P |
09:18.13 | AmyRose | It's a wonderful thing to be able to be lazy on Linux :D |
09:18.24 | dozer | same for me, and we can run it from a vanilla install |
09:18.25 | Chani | I loved gentoo back when I had lotsa free time :) |
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09:18.45 | Chani | I'd usually set stuff to compile overnight or while I was out |
09:18.50 | AmyRose | I like Kubuntu not because of its n00b-friendliness but because I can be lazy :D |
09:19.02 | Chani | AmyRose: same |
09:19.19 | Chani | hte n00b-friendlyness is starting to get on my nerves a tiny bit though |
09:19.26 | Chani | that and the strange kde modifications |
09:19.29 | AmyRose | Well, it doesn't bother me |
09:19.30 | lampyris | in the past i used some "power user" distro.. i like them but now i'm lazy :P I'm looking for a nice desktop, whitout problems... but fast... |
09:19.46 | AmyRose | lampyris: Then how is Gentoo the answer?! |
09:19.59 | AmyRose | Gentoo is for people with too much time on their hands :P |
09:20.22 | lampyris | eh, yes... |
09:20.23 | lampyris | :P |
09:20.26 | lampyris | i know |
09:20.48 | lampyris | but gentoo is a good distro.. with a lot of documentation, stable, personalizing... |
09:20.48 | bram85 | compiling is rather a passive activity, you can do anything else during compiling |
09:20.48 | AmyRose | I think it's funny that Slackware doesn't include GNOME anymore |
09:20.55 | lampyris | whit a great community |
09:21.09 | AmyRose | lampyris: I'm not saying not to use it ;) |
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09:21.18 | lampyris | :) |
09:21.19 | AmyRose | Anything is better than Windows! |
09:21.25 | lampyris | eheheh |
09:21.30 | bram85 | well... |
09:21.40 | lampyris | i'm courious to try OS X... |
09:21.40 | AmyRose | I haven't used Windows since March 28, 2004, and I don't miss it one bit. |
09:21.41 | lampyris | :S |
09:22.48 | AmyRose | lampyris: I would too, but I can't afford the cost of a Mac. I use Linux because it is free. |
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09:23.00 | AmyRose | and because it runs on the PC's I already have |
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09:23.41 | AmyRose | and now I am not so trusting of a proprietary OS anyway, so I doubt I'll ever be motivated to buy a Mac |
09:23.57 | lampyris | yes... i haven't a mac... next month i'll buy a new laptop.. but if i buy a mac, the suppport of linux is'nt good... |
09:24.14 | AmyRose | lampyris: How long have you used Linux? |
09:24.27 | lampyris | about 2-3 years |
09:24.29 | AmyRose | I have been using Linux since early 2004 |
09:24.38 | eNTi | how can i switch my output device for amarok? i want to use my usb headset so i don't disturb my gf. |
09:24.39 | dozer | the intel macs are a good compromise - you can run linux as the primary, and mac and windows on virtual desktops |
09:24.49 | dozer | if you /realy/ need one of the ms/mac apps |
09:24.59 | AmyRose | yuck... Windows?! |
09:25.43 | lampyris | i heared linux doesn't go very well on mac |
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09:27.25 | AmyRose | lampyris: Yeah, one of the reasons being that Macs have ATI graphics chips in them... |
09:28.25 | lampyris | mmm they have intel graphics 950 |
09:28.27 | lampyris | not? |
09:28.58 | AmyRose | I don't know anymore |
09:29.20 | AmyRose | and I don't really like Apple much these days |
09:30.19 | lampyris | eheh |
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09:31.45 | lampyris | noe i'm looking for a performance (fast and stable) distro but for lazy people :P |
09:31.51 | lampyris | *now |
09:33.12 | bram85 | compared to Linux From Scratch, Gentoo is for lazy people :) |
09:34.20 | AmyRose | hahaha |
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09:35.24 | jcczjl | macs have intel or nvidia chips as for laptops these days |
09:35.30 | bram85 | lampyris: or you could consider FreeBSD |
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09:38.57 | lampyris | bram85: freebsd isn't a good choice for desktop, in my opinion |
09:39.24 | bram85 | lampyris: KDE is available for FreeBSD, what else do you need? ;) |
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09:40.10 | whirm | hi all! |
09:41.22 | bram85 | lampyris: but admitted, outside KDE it seems to be hard for many people to write portable code |
09:41.32 | bram85 | official KDE modules i meant |
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09:42.45 | lampyris | bram85: drivers |
09:42.46 | AmyRose | bram85: ALSA =P |
09:42.46 | lampyris | :P |
09:43.46 | bram85 | nah... i was just kidding about FreeBSD... it's a great OS for servers, but I don't think I'd use it for my daily work |
09:44.01 | AmyRose | bram85: Also, as far as I've heard, FreeBSD doesn't really have much support for webcams, and my gf likes being able to see me |
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09:45.38 | DNIT | HI All |
09:45.54 | DNIT | How are you today |
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09:54.11 | dreamy | hllo kde |
09:54.12 | dreamy | ?? |
09:55.13 | dreamy | plz i want to kno when we can use the stale kde4 in our linux |
09:55.14 | dreamy | ?? |
09:57.02 | dreamy | anyone there?? |
09:58.12 | dreamy | okok thanks et merci |
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09:59.08 | straw | i can has kde4z!1? |
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10:00.47 | straw | how is aKademy going thus far, aseigo? |
10:00.52 | aseigo | great =) |
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10:00.59 | aseigo | i needt o blog. sooooooo much has already been going on |
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10:01.28 | straw | sweet :) |
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10:04.24 | eNTi | anyone possibly know, why the remote on my usb headset doesn't change the volume the device it's connected to, but rather the master channel of my soundcard? |
10:05.53 | dozer | eNTi: that's an awesom bug - no idea what's wrong |
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10:10.50 | dozer | AmyRose: updated, but still getting crash-on-launch from kontact (kmail) |
10:11.05 | AmyRose | ouch |
10:11.32 | dozer | I will try the old "move bits of .kde sideways" trick |
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10:14.34 | dozer | that didn't help |
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10:18.03 | eNTi | hmm... what's the syntax for "Override device location" under sound system -> hardware? |
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10:21.17 | icecruncher | where do I have to edit a file to add a directory of custom made scripts? |
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10:25.03 | eNTi | ok hw:XX,XX was my answer :) |
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10:29.08 | eNTi | hehe. this is really funny. the remote on my usb headset will always change the volume of the channel i set in KMix to Master :) |
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11:16.28 | gribouille | hi |
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11:20.57 | pressenter | DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket |
11:21.01 | pressenter | What does this mean? |
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11:25.02 | pressenter | Anyone at least knows where is the startkde script? |
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11:27.00 | annma | pressenter: where it is on your machine you mean? |
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11:27.47 | pressenter | yup |
11:28.13 | annma | which startkde |
11:28.18 | annma | you type that in a terminal |
11:28.33 | annma | and magically it answers you the location |
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11:29.48 | bala | aseigo: hello, i have a small q. for you, will it be possible to chain plasma datasources together? |
11:31.08 | pinotree | bala: #plasma would be a bit more appropriate for that, i think |
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11:33.10 | DexterF | who handles cd/dvd mounting in kde usually? hal? dbus? |
11:33.25 | bala | pinotree: sorry about that, im off to plasma! |
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11:35.39 | pressenter | annma: Ah, right, thank you. :) |
11:36.13 | annma | :) |
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11:43.16 | miguels | can anyone help with ati-radeon and black screen? |
11:43.53 | annma | your distro channel will do that miguels |
11:44.11 | miguels | ok.. thanks |
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11:56.16 | gribouille | Hi |
11:56.26 | gribouille | does anyone use korganizer |
11:56.29 | gribouille | ? |
11:57.01 | simonko19 | no |
11:57.02 | simonko19 | lol |
11:57.16 | gribouille | simonko19, you should |
11:57.27 | simonko19 | why |
11:57.33 | simonko19 | should i need an organizer? |
11:57.47 | gribouille | simonko19, that way, you could help me :-) |
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11:57.58 | simonko19 | whats the problem? |
11:58.40 | gribouille | don't bother |
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12:03.41 | gribouille | I have a problem with korganizer |
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12:05.06 | litb | i miss the digest |
12:05.14 | litb | :) |
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12:05.30 | gribouille | litb, what digest ? |
12:06.02 | litb | of dannya |
12:06.11 | gribouille | of what ? |
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12:06.22 | litb | uh Danny |
12:06.42 | gribouille | who's that ? |
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12:06.52 | litb | Danny Allen |
12:07.42 | litb | its the one who writes commit-digest |
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12:14.43 | gstnet | Hello, is it possible to force libkatepart to use .rc file with different name (katepartsimpleui.rc for an example) ? |
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12:21.07 | Ind[y] | What is the similar of "karamba themes" for GNOME? |
12:22.03 | firedrops | desklets |
12:22.05 | jacekowski | gdesklets AFAIK |
12:22.06 | firedrops | but they suck |
12:22.08 | firedrops | :P |
12:22.13 | jacekowski | gnome sux |
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13:33.08 | ilyak | How do I make it return? back? |
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13:37.30 | annma | ilyak: Settings -> Toolbars |
13:37.39 | annma | check the one you want to show |
13:39.01 | ilyak | annma: oh thx! |
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13:39.27 | anisfarhana | greetings all |
13:39.40 | annma | hi anisfarhana |
13:39.44 | anisfarhana | i don't remember how to make K Menu bar transparent , anyone can help me on there ? |
13:39.52 | luna_ | ;) |
13:39.55 | anisfarhana | heya annma long time not see how are u ? |
13:40.50 | annma | I'm at the KDE conference anisfarhana |
13:40.55 | annma | so I'm very fine ! |
13:41.12 | anisfarhana | annma: good to hear it mom :) |
13:41.18 | annma | lol |
13:41.21 | annma | ;) |
13:41.24 | annma | how about you? |
13:41.40 | litb | eNTi: if you use Domino, you hardly see borders |
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13:42.15 | anisfarhana | depressed + hypertension , there is so much work at office plus i had a lots of personal problem |
13:42.55 | annma | :( |
13:43.05 | annma | hope you get better soon |
13:43.12 | anisfarhana | thx :) |
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13:43.21 | anisfarhana | ohhh...do u know about it annma ? |
13:43.31 | anisfarhana | i mean how to make the K Menu transparent |
13:43.37 | anisfarhana | not a kicker , but K Menu List |
13:45.09 | annma | hmmm, no |
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13:52.20 | sarts | hello |
13:52.36 | bram85 | anisfarhana: afaik that's only possible if you enable it for all menus in KDE |
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13:54.13 | anisfarhana | bram85: i have enable and tick the option "also apply to to panel with menu bar" |
13:54.45 | bram85 | anisfarhana: oh you mean the Mac OS style menu bar? |
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13:58.11 | anisfarhana | bram85: no |
13:58.31 | anisfarhana | bram85: im talking about MENU transparency |
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14:35.33 | Shut_Up_And_Kiss | lol |
14:35.35 | Shut_Up_And_Kiss | hi |
14:35.59 | pinotree | ? |
14:36.05 | Shut_Up_And_Kiss | wat ? |
14:36.14 | Shut_Up_And_Kiss | somethin wrong ? |
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14:36.28 | pinotree | less k |
14:36.34 | pinotree | less lamer nick? |
14:37.01 | Shut_Up_And_Kiss | isnt as lamer as yours ;) |
14:37.11 | pinotree | absolutely, not |
14:37.16 | open_ | i'm getting this error from 'kio_media_mounthelper' |
14:37.29 | open_ | The device was successfully unmounted, but the tray could not be opened |
14:37.36 | open_ | when trying to open the cd drive |
14:37.42 | open_ | has anyone had this problem? |
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14:44.47 | Lacrymology | does kate have, or is there any way to give it autocompletion for python? |
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14:50.05 | Lacrymology | .....................·@ |
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14:59.57 | alewar | hello, i'm trying to compile the first kde 4 devel tutorial (hello-world) but get an error about ki18n not being defined in the scope, can somebody tell me how to fix it? |
15:00.29 | logixoul | alewar: ask in #kde-devel |
15:00.38 | alewar | ok, thanks! |
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15:01.50 | Kyral_Laptop | Why did I take that part msg as "For Great Justice!" |
15:02.18 | logixoul | :) |
15:02.33 | MinceR | :> |
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15:29.49 | ichthudion | I am looking for a kde 3.5 api reference |
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15:30.03 | ichthudion | The one I found at the kde developer site is not working |
15:30.14 | DaSkreech | so no Commit digest this week? |
15:30.25 | Sho_ | ichthudion: http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/ |
15:30.43 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: Danny has his hands full with the Akademy press duties, I imagine |
15:30.44 | ichthudion | Sho_: Thank you |
15:30.57 | DaSkreech | Yeah |
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15:32.39 | ichthudion | Under what might I find the api for adding a tray icon to an application |
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15:33.13 | DaSkreech | So Gnu is the shadow of the collossus? |
15:33.15 | ichthudion | I'm new to the kde api and I'm trying to extend the features of wlassistant |
15:33.16 | Sho_ | ichthudion: kdeui. http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKSystemTray.html |
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15:33.49 | ichthudion | Sho_: Again, thank you, you are a life saver |
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15:35.10 | DaSkreech | Any .oggs of the akademy up yet? |
15:35.29 | Sho_ | nope |
15:35.43 | DaSkreech | damn |
15:35.47 | DaSkreech | Still no net on the floor/ |
15:35.56 | Sho_ | Net went up yesterday |
15:36.42 | DaSkreech | ok Guess they are still catching up |
15:37.02 | DaSkreech | I heard sabdfl said that all apps should relase every 6 months? |
15:37.07 | DaSkreech | That's kinda stupid |
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15:41.23 | Sho_ | moin annma |
15:42.20 | annma | hi Sho_ |
15:42.23 | annma | :) |
15:42.36 | Sho_ | annma: How's Akademy? |
15:42.43 | annma | brilliant! |
15:43.08 | annma | it's so nice to see everyone and hear all those great talks and talk to everyone |
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15:57.56 | DaSkreech | I want to hear what were the issues with Kiosktool |
15:58.14 | annma | how come? |
15:59.41 | pinotree | DaSkreech: ? |
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15:59.59 | DaSkreech | pinotree: One of the talks was going over Kiosktool and the issues with it |
16:00.02 | DaSkreech | I hear :) |
16:00.12 | pinotree | ? |
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16:00.22 | Sho_ | pinotree: Inge's talk touched on large-scale installs and problems with Kiosktool |
16:00.36 | Sho_ | ;) |
16:00.43 | pinotree | ... |
16:01.03 | pinotree | i can't split myself into two, and follow two track at the same time, you know? :p |
16:01.21 | annma | DaSkreech: well, yes |
16:01.29 | annma | DaSkreech: basically kiosktool is not ported |
16:01.35 | annma | so that's the issue |
16:01.38 | DaSkreech | to? |
16:01.46 | Sho_ | DaSkreech: 4 |
16:01.53 | annma | kde4 |
16:02.01 | DaSkreech | Oh yeah duh. For a second I freaked and thought Windows |
16:02.20 | annma | lol |
16:02.23 | annma | booh |
16:02.50 | pinotree | well, kiosktool is kde specific, so theorically yes |
16:02.50 | DaSkreech | :-) |
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16:04.41 | DaSkreech | I want to get all the snapshots and look at the progress |
16:05.04 | DaSkreech | I'm beating that when Gnome 3 comes out it will be a much delayed progress in comparison |
16:05.36 | pinotree | DaSkreech: why waiting for alphas? use http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
16:05.57 | DaSkreech | pinotree: I just said why I'm waiting for alphas |
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16:06.54 | pinotree | DaSkreech: you didn't get my point - instead of *waiting* for the alphas, *compile* kde4 anytime |
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16:07.13 | DaSkreech | pinotree: But the milestone points are important |
16:07.19 | pinotree | and? |
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16:07.28 | pinotree | the everyday svn is importatn as well |
16:07.45 | DaSkreech | not to *insert random user here* |
16:08.19 | ichthudion | system tray is a pain to implement |
16:08.20 | pinotree | if you want to compile some alpha, you are not "some random user" |
16:08.36 | DaSkreech | You said I want to compile an alpha |
16:08.40 | DaSkreech | I didn't |
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16:10.16 | annma | I can pat pinotree's head if you proxy me DaSkreech |
16:10.27 | pinotree | (!) |
16:10.52 | annma | ok I'll do that when the meeting is finished |
16:11.00 | straw | so, what's been the most exciting track at aKademy? anything stand out? |
16:11.18 | DaSkreech | Oh yeah the kits |
16:11.21 | vks | how can i have a kicker in KDE |
16:11.30 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
16:11.34 | pinotree | vks: are you using kde? |
16:11.41 | annma | I have a konqi lochness one |
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16:11.57 | linux__alien | how do i get the Trash Icon on the Desktop |
16:12.20 | vks | yes i am |
16:12.46 | straw | linux__alien: locate trash.desktop |
16:12.53 | wolsni | vks: kicker is the KDE panel |
16:13.16 | straw | linux__alien: when you find it, copy it to $KDEHOME/Desktop |
16:13.22 | wolsni | if it's not displayed either you have it set to autohide or the panel program crashed |
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16:15.05 | linux__alien | straw, thanks |
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16:15.20 | straw | no problem |
16:17.59 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
16:18.52 | litb | hehe |
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16:20.25 | litb | has akademy been finished? |
16:20.41 | pinotree | no |
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16:22.25 | kaiser | is kde 4 out yet? |
16:22.38 | pinotree | no |
16:22.39 | DaSkreech | kaiser: No |
16:22.40 | BP{k} | no |
16:22.42 | litb | ~kde4 |
16:22.43 | apt | The next major revision of KDE -- KDE 4.0 -- will be released when it's ready, not before. However, the current target date is October 23rd, 2007 (see http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule). |
16:22.48 | tstaerk | no. only unstable. stable planned for oct-23 |
16:22.56 | tstaerk | oh |
16:23.09 | DaSkreech | pinotree: thats cause you have a no trigger |
16:23.12 | DaSkreech | :-P |
16:23.19 | Dunedan | no |
16:23.21 | Dunedan | ;-) |
16:23.41 | pinotree | you last phrase can actually trigger another tigger, the "kick" one |
16:24.15 | litb | he has a "kde4.*out.*\?" bot |
16:24.52 | DaSkreech | litb: No he just could press up since no was the last thing he said :) |
16:25.07 | DaSkreech | Assuming on client |
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16:25.23 | straw | who the heck cares... |
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16:25.33 | litb | hm, it's obvois i did an error because my statement also contained that phrase |
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16:28.05 | DaSkreech | yay dot updated |
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16:33.39 | litb | great! |
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16:45.52 | Feto | howdy |
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16:46.14 | Feto | why do I get that "kde is already running" message and the panel breaks? |
16:46.30 | Sho_ | now there's a barrage of Akademy articles |
16:46.59 | DaSkreech | Yeah |
16:47.27 | DaSkreech | That's a compelling reason to have a 6 month schedule |
16:47.42 | DaSkreech | but I'm not sure scaring people is a good end all |
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16:50.41 | Feto | hello? |
16:51.38 | wolsni | Feto: what are you doing when you get that message? |
16:52.19 | Feto | wolsni: i'm starting x, and there is no x session anywhere else in the host |
16:53.00 | wolsni | Feto: have you tried logging in with a new user? |
16:53.14 | Feto | wolsni: no, i haven't |
16:53.26 | Feto | should i give it a shot? |
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16:53.49 | wolsni | yes, try that |
16:53.50 | Feto | does it help on finding where the problem is? |
16:53.52 | Feto | k brb |
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16:56.09 | Feto | wolsni: it works |
16:56.12 | DaSkreech | I likeshow one article states Aaron gave a talk that was not a Keynote but sounded like one then the second article backs this up by saying It was followed by two Keynotes ONe from Mark Shuttelworth and one from Aaron |
16:56.21 | Feto | but when I go back to my user i get that "KDE seems to be already running on this display." again |
16:57.06 | wolsni | okay, have you recently killed KDE abruptly? |
16:57.17 | Feto | probably |
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16:57.22 | wolsni | crash, ctrl+alt+backspace, any of that? |
16:57.25 | wolsni | okay |
16:57.26 | Feto | i kind of tend to do that pretty frequently |
16:57.29 | Feto | c-a-bs |
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16:58.15 | wolsni | there is a keyboard shortcut to do a clean logout in KDE |
16:58.25 | Feto | oh i didn't know that |
16:58.27 | Feto | what is it? |
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16:58.49 | wolsni | well, like all KDE shortcuts it's configurable |
16:59.08 | Feto | what's the default? |
16:59.15 | wolsni | ctrl+alt+shift+delete appears to be the default |
16:59.25 | Feto | ok thanks |
16:59.28 | Feto | but first |
16:59.31 | Feto | how do I fix this? |
16:59.42 | Feto | is there a file I can delete? |
16:59.43 | Feto | or something? |
16:59.55 | Feto | or some permissions i have to fix? |
16:59.57 | wolsni | i think you just need to delete the symlinks in ~/.kde/ |
17:00.10 | Feto | let me see |
17:00.11 | Feto | all of them? |
17:00.28 | wolsni | they should be recreated by KDE when you start a new session |
17:00.34 | Feto | ok |
17:00.35 | Feto | brb then |
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17:02.13 | Feto | hmm |
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17:02.22 | Feto | i didn't get that message now |
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17:02.26 | Feto | but the panel is still not there |
17:02.48 | wolsni | well, just run kicker manually and make sure your session is saved |
17:02.59 | Feto | oh ok :) |
17:03.02 | Feto | brb |
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17:03.14 | Feto | <PROTECTED> |
17:03.26 | straw | dcop kicker Panel restart |
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17:03.40 | Feto | ah there you go :) |
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17:03.56 | Feto | brb |
17:05.18 | Feto | ok now the panel appears, then hides, and i cannot raise it by moving the mouse... only using ctrl-esc |
17:05.23 | Feto | that's weird |
17:05.46 | wolsni | Feto: check the settings, see what the autohide setting is |
17:06.10 | Feto | i usually have it on, but then it shows with the mouse... i'll check it out |
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17:06.28 | shevy | what can i do with kdebindings? |
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17:06.47 | Feto | yeah it's set to hiding, and raising when pointer touches screen's bottom edge |
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17:06.58 | wolsni | Feto: you could try renaming your kickerrc I suppose |
17:07.19 | Feto | i can try that |
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17:08.12 | Feto | ok there's no kickerrc now |
17:08.17 | Feto | i'll restart x |
17:08.26 | wolsni | Feto: just restart kicker |
17:08.40 | Feto | with that kicker panel restart? |
17:08.53 | wolsni | shevy: write KDE apps with languages other than C++ |
17:08.58 | wolsni | Feto: yep |
17:09.34 | shevy | wolsni, ok that makes sense, but the reason I ask is that i am a bit confused. For example, in ruby there exist qtruby4 etc.. bindings. Is having kdebindings a prerequisite, or independent of this? |
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17:10.01 | wolsni | KDE apps are built on top of Qt |
17:10.11 | wolsni | Qt doesn't depend on KDE at all though |
17:10.12 | Feto | ok i got a default panel now... i guess i can just reconfigure it |
17:10.17 | Skrot- | Doesnt the KDE-bindings depend on the C++ version of Qt though? |
17:10.23 | Feto | thanks a bunch guys |
17:10.30 | shevy | hmm |
17:10.44 | wolsni | Skrot-: I believe that's right |
17:10.55 | Skrot- | E.g KDE's python bindings does not depend on Qt python bindings, but rather on libqt (c++) |
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17:20.27 | benJIman | Dot keynotes story is written in an unsual tense. |
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17:24.12 | Daskreech2 | HOw so? |
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17:31.41 | metalfan | hi |
17:32.03 | Daskreech2 | are there any *nix tools that do audio CD spanning? |
17:32.06 | Daskreech2 | Well FOSS as well |
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17:32.16 | Daskreech2 | Nerolinux doesn't count |
17:32.26 | wolsni | what's audio CD spanning? |
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17:32.40 | wolsni | you make a track list and it splits it up for you? |
17:32.48 | Daskreech2 | wolsni: Burning a single file to multiple cds |
17:32.57 | Daskreech2 | <PROTECTED> |
17:33.02 | Daskreech2 | or concert |
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17:33.39 | metalfan | im trying to install some applet to the panel, echo $KDEDIRS contains: /home/metalfan/tmp/compiz-fusion/install the files are located (below install) in lib64/kde3/ is that ok? |
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17:39.19 | superstoned | Daskreech2: unless K3B can do it (look through the manuals?) I wouldn't count on it |
17:40.36 | wolsni | seems tough to automate anyway, you wouldn't want to split in the middle of a sentence |
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17:43.48 | DaSkreech | wolsni: Yeah But What if I don't care |
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17:44.25 | straw | DaSkreech: you've got a real way with words |
17:44.54 | wolsni | DaSkreech: i don't know, spend a half hour hacking together a script to split the track with mencoder? |
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17:46.43 | pressenter | DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket |
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17:46.53 | pressenter | Anyone knows how to fight with this? |
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17:48.16 | DaSkreech | straw: Sorry :) |
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17:49.04 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
17:49.22 | straw | it's ok. a little diplomacy goes a long way when someone's trying to offer suggestions |
17:50.23 | DaSkreech | straw: Oh the don't care thing? I was just saying that I dont' expect the software to be smart enough to know the difference between a break in flow etc. |
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17:58.11 | DaSkreech | Not that I don't care about the other stuff in general |
17:59.03 | x_link | Anybody has lm-sensors/ksensors here? |
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18:01.10 | DaSkreech | wolsni: I'm guessing it would have to split it based on the Media size. I'm trying to figure out if it should do it based on size or time |
18:01.34 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
18:02.05 | wolsni | well, iirc CD audio is a constant bitrate, so time would be what matters |
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18:03.35 | x_link | Anybody know what AUX temp is? |
18:07.59 | logixoul | x_link: just guessing: a way to temporarily make the jack for your speakers (or mic) act like an aux one |
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18:08.55 | DaSkreech | logixoul: I'm assuming temp is measured in C rather than dB |
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18:09.32 | logixoul | hm, I thought temp(orarily) |
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18:10.49 | x_link | logixoul hmm ok |
18:14.48 | DaSkreech | Ha ha I like Wendy's writing style |
18:14.57 | logixoul | who is Wendy? |
18:16.51 | DaSkreech | planetkde.org |
18:17.02 | DaSkreech | I don't know I don't recall seeing her blogs before |
18:17.12 | DaSkreech | She's golden though |
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18:17.56 | logixoul | ah |
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18:21.57 | Feto | =) |
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18:50.33 | litb | someone knows kconfigeditor? |
18:50.58 | litb | why doesn't it allow to edit the configfiles of newer KDE versions? |
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18:51.17 | Sho_ | litb: It's very old and unmaintained, for one |
18:51.24 | litb | but instead allows to edit the gconf database o.O |
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19:13.11 | mth`MAW | Hi there, does anybody knows where I can find a reference for kommander?! (In best case dor the new parser) |
19:13.33 | mth`MAW | I am searching and searching, but do not find anything |
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19:14.55 | sabayonuser | hi |
19:15.00 | PhilOut | hi sabayonuser |
19:15.32 | sabayonuser | i have a question about linux sabayon |
19:15.40 | sabayonuser | sorry im a n00b |
19:15.40 | logixoul | ask in #sabayon ;) |
19:15.47 | sabayonuser | well |
19:16.05 | sabayonuser | when i try to run it with kde interface it just freees |
19:16.11 | sabayonuser | freeses |
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19:16.27 | logixoul | mth`MAW: did you google it? |
19:16.37 | sabayonuser | my config is .73 ghz |
19:16.47 | sabayonuser | 64 mb radeon 300 |
19:16.55 | sabayonuser | 1.73 i mean |
19:16.58 | mth`MAW | logixoul: Yes, of course I did! |
19:17.29 | sabayonuser | 512 ram |
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19:17.56 | logixoul | mth`MAW: the reference is in the handbook |
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19:18.12 | mth`MAW | logixoul: for the new parser? |
19:18.45 | mth`MAW | mhm I wonder, that haven't find it. |
19:19.04 | mth`MAW | I DO have the handbook, but there is no propper reference |
19:19.45 | logixoul | how about http://web.archive.org/web/20070128205120/http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/parser/ |
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19:23.36 | CosmicRay | I am trying to navigate in kmail solely by keyboard. does anyone know how to select the html alternative in a multipart message using the keyboard only? I can't seem to find any relevant shortcuts |
19:23.55 | mth`MAW | logixoul: THAT looks promising |
19:23.57 | mth`MAW | thx |
19:24.07 | logixoul | mth`MAW: np |
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19:29.02 | logixoul | CosmicRay: the "load external references" shortcut seems to do what you want, albeit indirectly. |
19:29.10 | logixoul | (and with side effects) |
19:29.40 | logixoul | CosmicRay: alternatively you could make HTML the default part to be displayed - if that's what you want |
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19:30.58 | logixoul | CosmicRay: or, as another kludgy option, there's "Prefer HTML to plain text" shortcut which you might want to turn off after reading the mail, since you seem to indeed prefer plain text |
19:31.26 | logixoul | CosmicRay: but your question might be better answered in #kontact |
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19:39.59 | boguh | hi, is it possible to make a ssh connection with konqueror?? |
19:40.07 | Sho_ | boguh: sftp:// |
19:40.38 | boguh | cool, thx |
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19:46.12 | riwa | My file browser just stopped working after a reboot.. I try to launch it, and it ends up in the taskbar with a time-glass for about a minute to then disappear.. |
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19:46.40 | riwa | I'm running latest version of everything |
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19:48.27 | gavinbt | riwa: are you clicking on the home icon or some such? try open a konsole and type konqueror |
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19:49.12 | riwa | gavinbt: I tried it.. But nothing happened.. |
19:49.27 | gavinbt | did you press enter ;) |
19:49.32 | riwa | gavinbt: However, I did log out, and then all of them appeared at the same time... |
19:49.45 | gavinbt | vewy interesting |
19:50.00 | riwa | gavinbt: Works now though... |
19:50.17 | gavinbt | riwa: yarrr, nothing worse than a phantom |
19:50.31 | riwa | gavinbt: Yup.. Just very odd.. |
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19:50.50 | riwa | That's why I don't like DE's.. |
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19:51.57 | alesan | hi is there an application that will ring a bell at a specified time to remind me something? |
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19:53.43 | litb | commit-digest is up! |
19:55.46 | Sho_ | alesan: KAlarm |
19:56.19 | alesan | Sho_, yes, much more complicated than what I'd need but it's ok :) thank you |
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20:08.23 | litb | uh, seems now everyone wants to create a plasma engine for his software :) |
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20:11.35 | Sho_ | litb: Somebody already suggested one for Konversation even |
20:11.52 | litb | :) |
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20:14.26 | CosmicRay | logixoul: (sorry, phone). load external references doesn't do it. I also want to be able to select a particular alternative from the bottom panel |
20:14.49 | logixoul | dunno then |
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20:32.15 | pressenter | guess still noone knows what's with this dcop error? |
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20:32.52 | logixoul | what was it |
20:33.13 | pressenter | DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket |
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20:33.37 | pressenter | I cannot start kde because of it. |
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20:33.53 | jacekowski | where i can find results of konq benchmark? |
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20:34.00 | logixoul | pressenter: try running kde as another user |
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20:34.17 | pressenter | Hmm, ok, i will. |
20:34.28 | jacekowski | pressenter: you killed dcopserver |
20:34.39 | jacekowski | pressenter: you cleaned /tmp? |
20:34.43 | logixoul | jacekowski: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html ? |
20:34.45 | pressenter | jacekowski: I haven't started it even. |
20:35.05 | jacekowski | probably you wiped out dcop unix socket |
20:35.35 | jacekowski | logixoul: i want only konq compared to other browsers |
20:35.37 | pressenter | jacekowski: I have this error from the first time i installed kde. |
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20:35.54 | jacekowski | <PROTECTED> |
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20:36.10 | logixoul | jacekowski: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html#section6 ? |
20:36.30 | pressenter | jacekowski: Can you pastebin me your permissions? |
20:36.30 | jacekowski | performance |
20:36.37 | jacekowski | not memory usage |
20:37.00 | jacekowski | drwxrwxrwt 214 root root 21560 2007-07-02 18:39 tmp |
20:37.01 | pressenter | Besides isn't tmp cleared at reboot? |
20:37.16 | jacekowski | depends on distro |
20:37.29 | jacekowski | i store much data in /tmp |
20:37.49 | logixoul | jacekowski: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html - uses a konq version from 2002 though. |
20:37.52 | pressenter | Looks alright. |
20:38.08 | jacekowski | and |
20:38.24 | logixoul | er, 2004 |
20:38.38 | jacekowski | drwx------ 2 agata users 1024 2007-06-24 11:57 kde-agata |
20:39.03 | jacekowski | hmmm |
20:39.41 | jacekowski | drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 152 2007-06-29 17:47 .ICE-unix |
20:39.54 | jacekowski | there dcopserver store socket |
20:40.04 | jacekowski | srwx------ 1 root root 0 2007-06-29 17:47 dcop24204-1183132027 |
20:40.05 | jacekowski | srwx------ 1 agata users 0 2007-06-24 11:56 dcop3703-1182679006 |
20:40.11 | pressenter | jacekowski: http://wklej.org/id/a6a213606b |
20:40.48 | jacekowski | ls -la /tmp/.ICE-unix |
20:41.16 | pressenter | jacekowski: Same as yours. |
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20:44.03 | litb | i already adviced him too look at perms |
20:44.52 | litb | zack works on sonnet now |
20:45.34 | pressenter | Hell, all the perms look ok. |
20:45.50 | pressenter | Ok, will try running from other user. |
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20:47.58 | litb | pressenter: you may run the program which fails with strace |
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20:48.14 | litb | or run the script which executes it with the -x option |
20:48.27 | litb | there are many possibilities to debug |
20:48.46 | jacekowski | or use gdb |
20:49.00 | profoX` | Something has annoyed me for a long time. I want to have a bookmark toolbar when I use konqueror as webbrowser, but it shouldn't be there when I'm browsing my regular files, is it possible to hide the bookmark bar when browsing files? |
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20:50.09 | logixoul | profoX`: try this: go into web mode, enable bookmark toolbar, save profile, go into filemanagement mode, disable bookmark toolbar, save profile |
20:50.19 | logixoul | (shot in the dark) |
20:50.27 | profoX` | let's try! |
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20:51.13 | Sho_ | logixoul: ah if only Konqueror's profile system would work that predictably and intuitively ;) |
20:51.46 | logixoul | haha :) |
20:52.07 | profoX` | nah |
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20:52.08 | profoX` | damn |
20:52.22 | profoX` | it is so very annoying to have those bookmarks there when browsing files |
20:52.36 | logixoul | use dolphin! |
20:53.00 | pressenter | lol |
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20:54.42 | profoX` | logixoul: I don't know. Is Dolphin stable yet, and can it connect to FTP and Samba? and does it have a fun sidebar? that's all I need. |
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20:55.17 | pressenter | Wow. |
20:55.20 | profoX` | (I suppose connecting to ftp/samba is no problem with kioslaves) |
20:55.21 | logixoul | yes, it's stable. yes, it can. yes, it does, if by "fun" you mean "barely useful", at least in the kde3 version :) |
20:55.42 | logixoul | you suppose correctly |
20:55.44 | pressenter | While using strace... well i get a lot on no such file or dir errors. :/ |
20:56.00 | profoX` | logixoul: well, with useful I mean previews of text/html files etc. |
20:56.05 | pressenter | open("/usr/share/pixmaps/default/index.theme", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
20:56.13 | pressenter | And ish like that. |
20:56.14 | profoX` | s/useful/fun |
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20:57.01 | logixoul | profoX`: hmm... not sure. you do of course get previews as thumbnails in lieu of icons. |
20:57.17 | profoX` | well thats sómething :) |
20:57.42 | udoprog | im using irssi trough kde->xterm and wan't to alt+n myself to different windows in irssi, but the keyboard signal doesn't reach home. How do i do this? |
20:57.56 | udoprog | im not sure if its kde or xterm preventing this |
20:58.11 | logixoul | udoprog: I can't help, but try konsole instead. |
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20:58.46 | udoprog | logixoul: so you don't think its kde preventing this? |
20:58.56 | profoX` | logixoul: I'm going to play around with dolphin a bit then :) thank you |
20:59.06 | logixoul | np |
20:59.11 | profoX` | or, well, d3lphin :) |
20:59.13 | udoprog | and btw, im not using konsole, im using xterm |
20:59.20 | profoX` | as this KDE 3 maintained port seems to be called |
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21:00.03 | boguh | why doesnt kwrite daemon show me notifications about shutdown etc? |
21:00.35 | litb | konsole scrolls faster than xterm |
21:00.58 | logixoul | udoprog: I'd say the problem is in xterm, not in KDE. not sure. |
21:01.33 | udoprog | hm... xterm channel is dead |
21:02.07 | litb | pressenter: that's normal |
21:02.19 | litb | use -oafile to redirect output |
21:02.34 | litb | then after you exit the app, use less to browse it and search for /tmp |
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21:04.49 | DvineLord | how do i resize pictures in konqueror? |
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21:08.25 | litb | pressenter: that is: "strace -ooutput <yourcommand>; less output" |
21:10.12 | logixoul | DvineLord: depends on the image-viewing component you're using. In most cases you can find zooming options under the view menu |
21:10.33 | logixoul | DvineLord: you might also be able to ctrl+scroll to the same effect |
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21:11.33 | DvineLord | didnt work |
21:11.45 | DvineLord | this is for the webbrowser part |
21:12.02 | DvineLord | im using slax kill bill newest version |
21:12.04 | pressenter | open("/opt/kde/lib/libkhtml.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 3 |
21:12.14 | pressenter | anything wrong in this? |
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21:12.59 | logixoul | DvineLord: ctrl+plus? |
21:13.21 | xst | Apparently there has been posted a patch for this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134774 for a long time now. So why isn't it implemented? |
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21:13.35 | DvineLord | na |
21:13.43 | DvineLord | owell |
21:14.03 | MinceR | orwell |
21:14.04 | logixoul | DvineLord: try another component such as gwenview's |
21:16.53 | logixoul | xst: probably nobody has noticed so far. not much you can do I think. |
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21:17.43 | xst | Can't I notice someone about the patch then? :-) |
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21:28.33 | profoX` | i think i like delphin |
21:28.39 | profoX` | but the location bar is stuck to the frame |
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21:28.56 | profoX` | and I am used to having it below my application |
21:29.27 | logixoul | you mean you have your konq locationbar in the bottom? |
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21:31.21 | profoX` | logixoul: yes |
21:32.06 | profoX` | also, the system menu applet I use to access locations uses konqueror and it seems like I can't change it.. or I'll have to create a custom menu maybe |
21:33.03 | logixoul | profoX`: I once talked to the dolph author about making the locationbars normal movable toolbars, but he disagreed, stating that they are specific to each view (rather than to the window) and so need to use a different interaction model |
21:33.23 | logixoul | profoX`: I don't really agree with him either |
21:33.27 | logixoul | but oh well |
21:33.51 | logixoul | profoX`: see the handbook for instructions about making dolph the default filemanager |
21:33.58 | profoX` | ok logixoul |
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21:35.10 | danielbw | how can I get korganizer to actually run an external program with arguyments on alerts |
21:35.16 | danielbw | it seems to not be working |
21:35.19 | logixoul | danielbw: ask in #kontact |
21:35.31 | danielbw | logixoul: ok |
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21:36.49 | logixoul | xst: not sure if it's good etiquette, but you can find the kipi maintainer and contact him with the issue. |
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21:37.45 | xst | logixoul: Hmm, I see your point. Thanks anyway |
21:37.46 | logixoul | xst: looks like you need joern.ahrens@kdemail.net |
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21:52.27 | KanRiNiN | Hi. I just compiled KDE 3.5.6 and KDM doesn't start. I think it may be because my KDM lacks a config, but there' snothing in /usr/local/share/config/kdm |
21:52.34 | KanRiNiN | i.e. there's no example to copy over |
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21:53.32 | twosouls82 | evening all |
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22:16.02 | TR3NT | Salut tout le monde |
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22:16.33 | TR3NT | Hi all ;) |
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22:33.08 | psycose | hi, using KDE with Ubuntu Feisty (i386, up to date KDE 3.5.6) lib Qt 3 & 4, i got lot's of undefined reference, all from QtScript module any tips thanks ? |
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22:35.04 | psycose | hi, using KDE with Ubuntu Feisty (i386, up to date KDE 3.5.6) lib Qt 3 & 4, i got lot's of undefined reference, all from QtScript module any tips thanks , here it is http://rafb.net/p/4PXPgA75.html? |
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22:37.28 | imachine | hello ;-) |
22:37.48 | imachine | I have a suggestion for ark, where might I best leave it ? |
22:38.00 | imachine | or is it a semi-dead project, to be replaced by some new API in kde4 ? |
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22:44.11 | KanRiNiN | Hi guys. I'm trying to genkdmconf but it's saying it cannot copy the config/kdm/Xaccess |
22:44.55 | KanRiNiN | Which manual page would teach me how to get rid of the boot menu so it autoboots the default? |
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22:57.15 | psm321 | can someone help me out w/ some questions about kmymoney? |
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22:59.16 | wolsni | psm321: don't ask to ask |
23:01.43 | psm321 | wolsni: sorry |
23:02.07 | wolsni | psm321: no apologies necessary, what's your question? |
23:02.42 | psm321 | i want to keep track of cash spending, but also cash withdrawls and can't quite figure out how to do that. if put it in as a "Cash Withdrawl", that's an expense and i don't "Have" the money any more |
23:03.14 | wolsni | psm321: create a cash account and do cash withdrawals as transfers to that account |
23:03.24 | psm321 | btw, i've never used a personal finance program before, and my understanding is primarily from gnucash documentatiaon (i read the docs thoughroughly but i could never bring myself to use it) |
23:03.36 | psm321 | wolsni: ok, i'll try that |
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23:05.21 | psm321 | wolsni: for the pay to, should i just use something like "me" and use it consistently? |
23:05.28 | psm321 | or is there a specific convention? |
23:05.48 | wolsni | no conventions, just pick something that makes sense to you |
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23:06.22 | psm321 | ok, thanks |
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23:06.44 | wolsni | for transfers you can leave it blank too if you want |
23:06.52 | psm321 | k |
23:07.39 | psm321 | also, just so i know, can kmymoney do gnucash export in case i decide to switch at some point? (no big deal, just wondering) |
23:08.03 | psm321 | or i guess i could use QIF as in intermediary |
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23:12.39 | wolsni | i don't know, I have no idea what gnucash can import :) |
23:15.58 | psm321 | k |
23:16.10 | psm321 | wolsni: thanks for your help! |
23:16.25 | wolsni | no problem |
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