00:00.16 | timrs | maybe a channel for kde developers might get you an answer, i can't remember its name though |
00:00.35 | piranesi | I noticed that the hd shows in media:/ only if it's mounted at boot-time |
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00:00.48 | Jucato | timrs: #kde-devel |
00:01.01 | piranesi | or if it's mounted at boot-time, then unmounted and then remounted |
00:01.42 | agent | timrs, Jucato: Thank you. |
00:01.57 | Jucato | er sorry, that was for agent hehehe |
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00:02.08 | JohnFlux | piranesi: that's fairly distro specific |
00:02.26 | JohnFlux | piranesi: ubuntu for example uses just /media/ |
00:03.37 | piranesi | JohnFlux: I mean that if I mount i.e. /dev/sda4 in /mnt/sda4 after the system boot I can't find in the kde media:/ window |
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00:04.11 | piranesi | if I put in fstab a line for /dev/sda4 I will find it on that window |
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00:05.32 | JohnFlux | piranesi: i think that these days you are supposed to only use /mnt for stuff in fstab |
00:05.35 | JohnFlux | piranesi: and /media for the rest |
00:06.14 | piranesi | no, I'm on gentoo, I don't use the /media dir |
00:06.24 | timrs | i've never understood that.. i learned something, i'm going to cry now.. |
00:06.35 | piranesi | I always mount on /mnt |
00:07.18 | olskolirc | can someone help me get java into konqueror please? |
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00:07.57 | timrs | sure |
00:08.19 | timrs | settings > configure konqueror > java > then set the java dir/command w/e |
00:08.57 | olskolirc | what is java dir/command w/e |
00:08.57 | timrs | hold on |
00:08.57 | olskolirc | do i need to install a special java? |
00:08.58 | olskolirc | ok |
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00:09.55 | timrs | settings > configure konqueror > java & javascript > check enable java globally & set the command to run java (usually java) |
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00:10.17 | timrs | if java is not installed, then head to java.com and install it |
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00:10.48 | Jucato | or consult your distro on how to install java |
00:11.02 | olskolirc | java is enabled globally in java and java script |
00:11.22 | olskolirc | in path to java, it has the word java in it |
00:11.29 | timrs | one version of java doesn't work with konqueror, you need to upgrade it then |
00:11.29 | olskolirc | by default |
00:11.39 | olskolirc | ok to which java |
00:11.49 | olskolirc | i just installed jre1 version 6 |
00:11.49 | timrs | the newest version |
00:11.55 | timrs | oh |
00:11.59 | olskolirc | jre or sdk or which one |
00:12.05 | timrs | jre |
00:12.18 | timrs | but it should work, i think 4 doesn't work |
00:12.19 | olskolirc | ok i don't know why its not working |
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00:12.33 | timrs | 1.4 shouldn't work, but 1.6 should |
00:13.01 | olskolirc | ok |
00:13.18 | timrs | i can't help you anymore, except that i have 1.5 and it works for me |
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00:13.53 | olskolirc | ok |
00:13.57 | olskolirc | thanks timrs |
00:14.00 | timrs | oh, java doesn't install the 'java' thing in /usr/bin, so upgrading doesn't work unless you change the command to run java to where it was installed |
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00:14.46 | olskolirc | ohhh thats where i have it |
00:14.53 | olskolirc | so just moving it should help then right? |
00:15.01 | timrs | try it |
00:17.41 | olskolirc | what is the path to your java timrs? |
00:18.35 | timrs | olskoli....: /usr/java/jre1.5...../bin/java |
00:19.25 | timrs | can someone tell me wat RAW means (i typed / first) and weather people can read it |
00:20.54 | olskolirc | and i want to load the .so plugin right? |
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00:21.09 | timrs | no, you dont |
00:21.13 | olskolirc | ohhh |
00:21.18 | olskolirc | what do i want to load |
00:21.34 | timrs | i don't understand what you're talking about, setting the path should work fine |
00:21.49 | olskolirc | the path all the way to .so |
00:22.36 | timrs | no |
00:22.39 | timrs | to java |
00:22.43 | timrs | i have to go, cya |
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00:27.26 | olskolirc | i got it :-) |
00:27.28 | olskolirc | thanks |
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00:32.49 | Deformative | What is a good dvd ripper? |
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00:36.22 | Jucato | :P |
00:36.54 | Deformative | Erm, no replies? |
00:37.56 | troy | Deformative: k3b works - but only does the straightforward stuff (that is, assuming your distro hasn't crippled it to avoid legal problems...) |
00:38.35 | Deformative | Hmm. |
00:38.38 | Deformative | Like divx and stuff? |
00:38.54 | troy | no, it just does disc-to-disc copying I think... |
00:39.27 | troy | haven't actually ripped a DVD in a while |
00:40.51 | straw | it's kind of a shame there seems to be no real way to cleanly disable potentially illegal features of a given kde module |
00:41.07 | straw | forcing packagers to hack up the module |
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00:42.40 | troy | I think it's a compile time option - but you're thinking of run time options? |
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00:43.32 | straw | well, i know fedora has to patch kdemultimedia a fair bit |
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00:44.11 | straw | then what's patched out is supplied by a 3rd party repo |
00:44.24 | timrs | and novell kills xine |
00:44.35 | straw | fedora does too |
00:45.06 | straw | but xine is handled in the same fashion |
00:45.28 | straw | the big distros do |
00:45.41 | timrs | that don't advise them in favor of commersial products |
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00:50.18 | timrs | everytime a multiple scerosis commercial thing says MS kills this many people, i think microsoft its microsoft for like 10 seconds into the commmercial |
00:51.54 | Deformative | Eh, I am kinda bummed about kde working on windows now. |
00:51.56 | Deformative | Ah well. |
00:53.20 | timrs | well, hopefully it will convert people to linux, but for me it might be the other way around -- i need windows for games and stuff, but i love kde -- that might piss me off now that theres no reason not to use windows |
00:54.30 | Jucato | *some* KDE *apps* *will be able to* run on windows... big difference from "kde working on windows" |
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00:54.54 | Deformative | Yeah, that's true. |
00:54.56 | timrs | i hope so, or if it works i might use windows, because everything just works on windows |
00:55.19 | timrs | because those mean hardware vendors that hate us |
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00:57.05 | Jucato | just checking :) |
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01:02.57 | holymoly | lol |
01:02.59 | holymoly | what works on windows? |
01:03.08 | holymoly | i have NEVER had an a painless experience on windows |
01:03.22 | holymoly | i can't even plug anything in without having to download 50 meg installation driver sets |
01:03.28 | timrs | well, its worked for me, hardware typically -- but no customization |
01:03.38 | holymoly | never mind shit just stopping working fo rno particular reason |
01:03.40 | timrs | ya, i hate rebooting it every week, literally |
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01:19.36 | sharp15 | anyone know if clamassassin or Mail-ClamAV can be used with KMail? |
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01:21.40 | sharp15 | i'm looking for something that works similar to klammail (Klamav's mail scanner) but doesn't require having another av scanner installed. |
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01:22.00 | timrs | clamav can be used with kmail i beleive |
01:22.23 | timrs | i don't think anything needs to be installed, but i don't really know |
01:22.41 | viridari | clamav can be used with kmail, yes |
01:22.45 | sharp15 | i haven't been able to find info. explaining how. |
01:22.47 | viridari | support is built into kmail |
01:22.54 | sharp15 | where? |
01:22.59 | viridari | but you do need to have clamav installed |
01:23.03 | sharp15 | it is. |
01:23.05 | timrs | you just go into kmail and it'll search for scanners |
01:23.13 | timrs | somewhere in it, can't remember where |
01:23.57 | viridari | under the Tools menu, Anti Virus Wizard |
01:24.13 | viridari | similarly there is an Anti Spam Wizard |
01:24.55 | sharp15 | found it. thanks. i didn't notice that. sorry to bother you guys. |
01:25.05 | viridari | n/p |
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01:37.46 | darkrift411 | anyone able to tell me where to download some good kde panel backrounds? |
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01:37.52 | xororand | is there a kde applet/application to control displays with DDC/CI? |
01:37.59 | xororand | (like ddccontrol for the command line) |
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01:47.54 | viridari | darkrift411: http://www.kde-look.org/ |
01:51.08 | darkrift411 | ive looked there, but not sure what category to look under |
01:52.27 | darkrift411 | i found them before, but cant find them now |
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02:07.29 | darkrift411 | hrmmmm |
02:08.28 | darkrift411 | oh well |
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02:22.02 | mardi_soir | hello |
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02:22.21 | mardi_soir | is it possible to lauch an application betwen 2 refresh of konqueror ? |
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02:42.03 | davido | any kate users about, or some who can help with find/replace with grep? |
02:42.14 | davido | s/some/someone |
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02:42.48 | davido | I want to search a range of xml files (in a single dir) for sentences that aren't separated by a space |
02:43.40 | davido | so I'm looking for <lowercase>.<UPPERCASE> or something like that, and need to replace the found string with itself plus a space after the period |
02:44.29 | rohanpm | davido: something like: sed -r -e 's|([a-z])\.([A-Z])|\1. \2|' -i *.xml |
02:44.58 | mardi_soir | rohanpm, :) |
02:45.09 | mardi_soir | nice answer |
02:45.12 | rohanpm | davido: but you will have to check if it's ok manually, since the pattern could match things other than sentences not separated by a space |
02:45.32 | mardi_soir | how about maybe my problem ! |
02:46.18 | mardi_soir | konqueror with nspluginviewer need to killall nspluginviewer && killall npviewer.bin |
02:46.25 | mardi_soir | sometimes |
02:46.39 | mardi_soir | need to do this before refresh sometimes |
02:46.50 | mardi_soir | firefox does not need |
02:47.07 | davido | rohanpm, thanks. I'll give it a bash on one file and see what comes out. I tried putting together a regexp in Kate but I find it clunky |
02:47.19 | davido | apart from that I'm not very good at regexp... |
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02:57.26 | pcbsd | is it possible to close all "windows" on the window list menu |
02:57.43 | pcbsd | i got too many windows open now..... lazy to close one by one. |
02:58.56 | mardi_soir | try alt-f4 very quickly :) |
02:59.13 | mardi_soir | you can group similar apps |
02:59.24 | mardi_soir | and close them in one action |
02:59.49 | icwiener | Or restart KDE with session stuff deactivated. ;) |
02:59.50 | mardi_soir | see propriy of you task list |
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03:01.53 | pcbsd | ok all done. |
03:01.55 | pcbsd | thanks. |
03:03.06 | davido | rohanpm, that sed command seems to stir up a bug/feature... |
03:03.14 | davido | rohanpm, sed: -e expression #1, char 26: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS |
03:03.32 | davido | found it on google but don't really know what to do about it :( |
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03:04.27 | rohanpm | davido: works fine here... can you double-check you typed it exactly as it is there? |
03:04.59 | davido | rohanpm, yeah, copied & pasted. Tried a few variations, even... I'll persist for a while and see what else I can do |
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03:06.30 | davido | rohanpm, <sigh> error 13: PBUAK |
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03:07.53 | rohanpm | davido: no offense but that is kinda what I expected :-) |
03:08.03 | davido | rohanpm, yeah I know :) |
03:08.22 | davido | I looked and looked and... can't see what's right in front of me :) |
03:08.37 | davido | thanks for your help |
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03:47.51 | fotoflo_ | hey. im having trouble getting my soundsystem working |
03:48.15 | fotoflo_ | it worked the first time i installed kde, but a few days have gone by now, and something isnt working |
03:49.02 | fotoflo_ | err i just reset to defaults. |
03:49.05 | fotoflo_ | everything works now |
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03:55.54 | mardi_soir | fotoflo_, well done ! |
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05:19.25 | DaSkreech | Is there a KDE http://gtkol-ldap.sourceforge.net/?page_id=6 ? |
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06:33.45 | Jefis | Tell some site where i can fast upload kde4 mockup video? :-)) |
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06:39.24 | croepha | you guys know of any issues with konqueror crashing when used with the kaffeine plugin? |
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06:40.49 | Jefis | take a look: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=59872 |
06:40.50 | Jefis | :-)) |
06:40.53 | Jefis | Download High-Quality |
06:42.35 | benJIman | croepha: kaffeine plugin is notoriously unstable. |
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06:45.50 | croepha | benJIman: and alternatice suggestions? |
06:45.59 | croepha | alternative* |
06:46.02 | croepha | rather |
06:46.08 | benJIman | I usually play in stand alone kaffeine. |
06:46.24 | croepha | hmm, yea, alot of websites wont do it though |
06:46.26 | wolsni | croepha: kplayer and kmplayer are other apps that provide a video kpart |
06:46.26 | benJIman | There are other plugins though, for kmplayer etc |
06:46.33 | croepha | like, if i paste the url |
06:46.46 | croepha | cool |
06:47.17 | croepha | btw, so when is kde4 expected to come around? |
06:47.46 | wolsni | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule |
06:48.22 | Jucato | croepha: there's a kmplayer plugin that works the same as the kaffeine plugin. |
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06:56.11 | croepha | is there a way that the touchpad click in the synaptics driver could be disabled when text is being entered into a text box? |
06:56.39 | Torin | does anyone uses kopete meanwhile plugin ? |
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06:57.51 | wolsni | croepha: get the ksynaptics configuration tool |
06:58.07 | wolsni | it has an option to disable the touchpad while typing |
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07:16.28 | jhpyo | 하이.. |
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07:21.42 | ma_b | Hello. Saving session remembers all applications next start, but *not* Mozilla Firefox? There is no process running after start. |
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07:29.11 | Fusselwurm | ma_b: for me at least it works, firefox is started again (asking if i want to restore the closed tabs or such) |
07:30.18 | ma_b | Fusselwurm: Yes when I start it manually. But the saved session doesn't start it. |
07:30.58 | ma_b | Fusselwurm: btw, does firefox has an way for exit and saving the tab session? This only works if I quit KDE or kill firefox. |
07:32.14 | Fusselwurm | I suppose KDE does kill firefox to provoke this saving of the tab session |
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07:42.46 | Ayabara | I have dual head working in kde (kubuntu), but I have some problems with focus. When I move the mouse pointer over to the other monitor, I want to focus to move there as well. Also, when I exit some applications, the focus suddenly jumps to the other monitor... |
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07:43.05 | Ayabara | anyone skilled at this area? |
07:43.40 | wolsni | Ayabara: focus applies to windows, not monitors |
07:44.20 | wolsni | sounds like if you switch to the Unix-style "focus-follows-mouse" policy you'll be fine |
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07:44.50 | Ayabara | wolsni: ok. when I used gnome, the focus went to the last active app on the monitor I move the pointer to. any way to get this behavior in kde? |
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07:45.26 | wolsni | not that i know of |
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08:11.05 | Vega_ | hi all |
08:11.19 | Vega_ | i've a simple question about the behaviour of kde |
08:11.55 | Vega_ | when i set a property for a window like "keep above" it is forgotten by the system as soon as i switch desktop and i come back |
08:12.16 | Vega_ | is it a matter of configuration? I've been looking for a while but i haven't found anything so far in the control center |
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08:12.48 | Jucato | Vega_: right-click on the window title bar -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings, for more options/control |
08:13.23 | Vega_ | Jucato, f*** i jumped the advanced option :P |
08:13.33 | Jucato | :) |
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08:15.53 | Vega_ | Jucato, it works..but where can i find it in the control center if i want to let this being the default behaviour? |
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08:16.18 | Jucato | KControl -> Desktop -> Window-Specific Settings |
08:16.28 | Jucato | 1 rule is created per window or app |
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08:19.09 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 3.5.7 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions in your distro channel please | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
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08:20.24 | Vega_ | Jucato, nice..unfortunately it doesn't work for the only application where i really need :S |
08:20.33 | Jucato | O.o |
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08:20.52 | Vega_ | murphy's law.... :) |
08:21.10 | Vega_ | or java side-effects.... |
08:21.12 | Vega_ | :D |
08:21.24 | Vega_ | which one is more dangerous? :) |
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08:46.54 | RockMan | ciao |
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09:45.38 | alberto | hi |
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09:47.16 | aditsu | hi, how can I increase the buffer length in konsole? |
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09:47.35 | Chani | isn't there a setting for that>? |
09:47.53 | Chani | aditsu: look around in the settings, I'm sure it's there somewhere |
09:47.55 | aditsu | haven't found it.. |
09:48.04 | aditsu | I'll look again |
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09:48.39 | aditsu | oh, there's something called "history", I wonder if it's that |
09:48.51 | Chani | could be |
09:49.04 | Chani | in kde4 the settings are a lot better organised |
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09:49.46 | aditsu | oh, kde4? :) is there any eta for that or still "when it's ready"? |
09:50.17 | alberto | themes in kde4 is a chaos |
09:50.19 | alberto | xD |
09:50.23 | alberto | too many options |
09:50.23 | aditsu | ah, wikipedia says 23 Oct |
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09:50.40 | alberto | what icon theme do you use? |
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09:51.41 | physos | aditsu: despite that estimated date it is "when it is done" :9 |
09:51.43 | physos | ) |
09:51.48 | physos | :) now |
09:51.49 | Chani | aditsu: octoberish |
09:52.28 | Chani | I don't think what will be available then will be much past the alpha stage... although kde work does continue to surprise me |
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09:52.45 | tuxedup | I saw some of the screenshots for the new oxygen theme for kde, the button styles and windeco etc. Which module are these in within svn? |
09:52.47 | Chani | hey, anyone remember how to turn on composite fun in kwin 4? |
09:52.47 | alberto | is kde4 faster? |
09:53.11 | Chani | alberto: hard to tell right now :) |
09:53.21 | alberto | Chani: ok |
09:53.27 | Chani | it certainly crashes faster! :) |
09:53.29 | alberto | so then more features but not faster |
09:53.34 | alberto | :) |
09:53.35 | alberto | ok |
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09:53.36 | alberto | xD |
09:53.50 | alberto | can you tell me a minimal kde theme? |
09:53.56 | Chani | a lot of stuf has been rewritten,. I think there's a fair change it might be faster |
09:54.02 | Chani | *chance |
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09:58.13 | lxg | hi, is this the right place to ask questions about quanta? |
09:59.05 | metres | Hi all I have a konversation question...: It is possible to save the channel list but how to restore it ? |
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10:07.42 | alberto | Can someone tell about a nice kde theme with same color in kwin and widgets? |
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10:08.57 | Fusselwurm | dunno... did you have a look at kde-look.org ? |
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10:09.38 | alberto | I did. |
10:09.47 | alberto | But anyway to aply a kde theme is not easy. |
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10:10.35 | Gigantic | orales... metallica plays la babma :o |
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10:11.30 | Gigantic | alberto: actually you just download it and use tthe corresponding kcontrol module |
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10:11.59 | Gigantic | alberto: but check your distro, some theme/engines are in the package sources |
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10:18.24 | iapitus | good morning |
10:19.32 | markey | calc slogan |
10:19.40 | markey | ooops |
10:19.45 | markey | wrong chan :) |
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10:20.08 | iapitus | i'm looking for a way of adding a "search bar" to knoq (like galeon) - is this possible? |
10:20.29 | iapitus | bah - konqueror even |
10:21.26 | markey | knoq :) |
10:22.14 | iapitus | to clarify - is there a way to get the search-box (google, etc) to be separate boxes for the search-engines i use frequently? |
10:22.46 | markey | I would say no |
10:22.56 | markey | but that's more guess than knowledge |
10:23.12 | markey | knoq configuration is like an adventure game |
10:23.36 | iapitus | huh - cool - the way it is works, just one of those "learn to work differently" kinda things - thanks |
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10:24.51 | anyu | hi all |
10:24.56 | iapitus | hola |
10:25.02 | markey | g'day |
10:25.02 | anyu | i looking for that program that helps in typing |
10:25.11 | iapitus | anyu, like mavis beacon? |
10:25.11 | anyu | i find that for my mother, and once i have found |
10:25.16 | markey | a typing tutor? |
10:25.19 | anyu | it's a kde app Ksomething |
10:25.21 | anyu | yes... |
10:25.25 | markey | check kde-apps.org :) |
10:25.32 | anyu | it's in repos |
10:25.32 | markey | everything is there |
10:25.37 | anyu | but i dunno it's name |
10:25.43 | iapitus | anyu, try ktouch |
10:25.47 | anyu | tadaa! |
10:25.49 | tuxedup | anyu: tuxtype :) |
10:25.51 | markey | indeed |
10:25.53 | anyu | thx, thats that. |
10:25.57 | markey | google knew |
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10:26.10 | iapitus | (eix -S typing) |
10:26.15 | iapitus | (in gentoo) |
10:26.55 | anyu | i think ktouch is what i find... i'm installing that... |
10:27.17 | anyu | anyways thank yours all |
10:27.21 | markey | yw |
10:27.23 | anyu | or thanks for everybody.. |
10:27.26 | anyu | :) |
10:27.58 | iapitus | anyu, there are a few other good ones, but that one is actually built into kde i believe |
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10:28.20 | anyu | in kubuntu looks it's not installed... |
10:28.39 | markey | search in adept |
10:28.53 | markey | or just try "sudo apt-get install ktouch" |
10:28.56 | iapitus | kubuntu is a relatively stripped down kde |
10:29.10 | markey | not really |
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10:29.14 | markey | using it here |
10:29.15 | iapitus | (compared to some others at least - i think it's in the kde-education package in debian) |
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10:30.27 | markey | aha, an amaroker |
10:30.40 | markey | yo Simeon_H |
10:30.43 | iapitus | markey, i don't mean to imply it's stripped down to nothing, but it doesn't ship with *everything*, which i got a little used to with gentoo |
10:31.31 | markey | iapitus: they don't ship kdebase as-is, that's correct. they tend to split things up |
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10:31.49 | Simeon_H | markey you bastage! |
10:31.54 | iapitus | markey, yeah - i'm just talking stock-install - they have a *lot* of the packages available via apt |
10:31.56 | markey | hah |
10:32.01 | Simeon_H | release 1.4.6 already D:! |
10:32.20 | markey | dude it's ready, packaged and all |
10:32.42 | markey | in few hours we're going to announce officially |
10:32.52 | Simeon_H | oh all right then |
10:32.53 | iapitus | that'll be handy |
10:32.55 | Simeon_H | linky! |
10:34.09 | markey | today's 1.4.6 release, and leinir's birthday |
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10:39.14 | Gigantic | where kmail keep the certs ? |
10:39.53 | markey | I'd guess somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail |
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10:39.58 | markey | where all the data is stored |
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10:41.23 | _syphilis_ | in 3.5.6, where is the option to disable the cursor startup notification (shows animated icon next to the cursor)? |
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10:42.26 | Sho_ | _syphilis_: KControl -> Appearance -> Launch Feedback |
10:42.33 | Gigantic | nothing under kssl and I see nothing under kmail |
10:42.46 | Gigantic | neither using the kcontrol module |
10:43.10 | Gigantic | and kmail can't connect correctly 'caus the cert has changed and still try to use the old one |
10:43.34 | _syphilis_ | Sho_: hmm, i don't see that here. but i do remember that, now. is it possible ubuntu removed the option for some reason? |
10:44.07 | Sho_ | _syphilis_: Yes, Kubuntu ships what amounts to a fork of KDE, unfortunately, including its own KControl alternative. |
10:44.16 | Sho_ | _syphilis_: "kcontrol" is installed, however, you can run it via "Run Command" |
10:44.35 | _syphilis_ | ah! this look more familiar :) thanks |
10:44.41 | Gigantic | kcmshell --list |
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10:45.09 | markey | well, I'm pretty happy with the System Settings thingie |
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10:45.18 | markey | it's somewhat easier on the eye than kcontrol |
10:45.43 | _syphilis_ | i don't mind the idea. but not providing options that kcontrol does is annoying. (who likes that animated icon, anyway?) |
10:46.17 | Gigantic | There's a better way... |
10:46.47 | Gigantic | Iam embeding kcontrol modules to kickoff :p |
10:46.50 | markey | Sho_: how's your kde4 port of konvi progressing? |
10:47.55 | Gigantic | crap, I can't find it with kleopatra ! |
10:47.58 | Sho_ | markey: Not well. How's Amarok? |
10:48.15 | markey | struggling as well |
10:48.37 | markey | it's amounting to something like a 50% rewrite |
10:48.44 | markey | tons of work |
10:49.24 | Sho_ | markey: Likely more than 50% for us because we're unhappy with the codebase we start with to begin with ;) |
10:49.56 | markey | yes, same for us. basically everything that's important is being rewritten |
10:50.08 | markey | so you could probably say more than 50% |
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10:51.40 | ePax | if i have accidently removed some file with rm -rf is there a way to recover it? |
10:52.01 | markey | currently I'm still not fully enjoying hacking on trunk |
10:52.16 | Torin | ePax: sometimes, on reiserfs and ext2 you can do it |
10:52.16 | markey | hopefully this will come |
10:52.24 | Torin | ePax: just google for it |
10:52.29 | Sho_ | (w00t, NX 3.0 is out) |
10:52.31 | ePax | ok |
10:52.55 | markey | Torin: until then access your filesystem as rarely as possible |
10:52.58 | markey | ideally, not at all |
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10:53.04 | Jucato | Sho_: finally! :) |
10:53.13 | markey | oops. I meant ePax |
10:53.14 | markey | sry |
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10:53.26 | Jucato | (NX 3.0 I mean) |
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10:54.34 | markey | oxygen style still feels soooo slow |
10:54.44 | markey | I hope they can speed it up by a magnitude |
10:54.49 | markey | makes everything feel laggy |
10:55.05 | markey | looks sweet though |
10:55.31 | Jucato | sweet and laggy? a wonderful combination :) |
10:56.43 | BetaTester | Hi all. CAn somebody tell how do I remove the border from a specific window forever? I have to use always => right click on the border => Advanced => No Border |
10:56.44 | markey | just like molasses |
10:56.54 | blinx | http://dpaste.com/12675/ |
10:57.10 | blinx | I set the QTDIR to /usr/share/qt3 |
10:57.15 | BetaTester | Any idea? How do I tell kwin to make this for me? |
10:57.16 | blinx | before it was qt4 |
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10:58.41 | piranesi | what real dir does system:/media point to? |
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10:59.38 | qupada | piranesi: it doesn't |
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11:00.11 | markey | it sucks, really. I wouldn't use it |
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11:04.56 | blinx | no one an idea? |
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11:06.01 | Torin | does anyone uses kopete with meanwhile plugin ? |
11:06.21 | markey | not me |
11:08.30 | Sho_ | markey: and the heavy tab bar isn't very nice, imho |
11:09.28 | markey | you mean the vertical sidebar thingie? |
11:09.34 | markey | in amarok trunk? |
11:09.41 | Sho_ | markey: no, the Oxygen style tab bars |
11:09.41 | markey | it looks like ass |
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11:10.13 | markey | already on my TODO |
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11:10.44 | Sho_ | I've talked to them about it, but they're in love with the glass effect |
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11:10.57 | markey | who is? |
11:11.05 | Sho_ | The Oxygen developers |
11:11.11 | Sho_ | Again - I wasn't talking about Amarok :) |
11:11.18 | markey | oh, I misunderstood |
11:11.19 | markey | ok |
11:11.32 | markey | I do actually like the black glass look |
11:11.34 | markey | I think |
11:11.36 | Sho_ | With regards to Amarok 2.0, I'll wait and see ... I'm a "playlist as scratch pad for mixing and matching" guy so making it display only a couple titles and not having it front and center has me concerned a bit ;) |
11:11.43 | markey | but you can only really tell after using it a while |
11:12.40 | markey | oxygen must be careful not to fall into the Keramik trap |
11:12.48 | blinx | no one an idea with my kaffeine? |
11:12.55 | markey | trying to be too shiny, but ending up clunky |
11:13.11 | markey | kaffeine.. blows |
11:13.17 | markey | woops, I didn't say that |
11:13.20 | blinx | http://dpaste.com/12675/ |
11:13.23 | markey | use Codeine :) |
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11:13.41 | blinx | no |
11:13.43 | blinx | kaffeine |
11:14.39 | blinx | something with the moc or qt path is wrong... |
11:14.41 | blinx | but what? |
11:14.47 | hybridsto | what would be the best way to have firefox come up on startup? |
11:15.06 | markey | hybridsto: simply shut kde down with firefox running |
11:15.07 | blinx | /usr/bin/moc is a link to usr/bin/moc -> /etc/alternatives/moc* |
11:15.09 | apokryphos | put it in ~/.kde/Autostart, or handle it via session control |
11:15.14 | markey | session management is gonna restore it |
11:15.17 | markey | automagically |
11:15.18 | blinx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2007-06-21 13:10 /etc/alternatives/moc -> /usr/bin/moc-qt3* |
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11:16.28 | markey | if you're lucky, it'll even start on the correct desktop ;) |
11:16.36 | piranesi | <PROTECTED> |
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11:17.13 | hybridsto | thanks guys |
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11:17.36 | markey | piranesi: maybe /media |
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11:19.06 | apokryphos | piranesi: it's a kioslave, it doesn't point to a specific directory |
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11:19.26 | apokryphos | what you're looking for though, as markey said, might be in /media (generally used for mount points of removable devices) |
11:19.52 | piranesi | apokryphos I have a problem with system:/media it doesn't show an hd if it's not mounted at boot |
11:20.34 | apokryphos | it should... |
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11:22.33 | piranesi | apokryphos: if I put /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=000 0 0 in fstab and restart the system I see it in system:/media (even if I unmount it and remount it)... without that line If I mount the hd from konsole, I can only see it in /mnt/hda2 and not in system:/media |
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11:30.25 | DomainW | what would cause KTorrent to keep crashing, SIG11 gets sent it says |
11:31.35 | markey | version? |
11:31.50 | DomainW | 2.1.3 |
11:32.09 | markey | hmm |
11:32.15 | markey | upgrading is always a good idea |
11:32.29 | markey | I've got 2.1.4 here; it's working fine |
11:32.31 | DomainW | i use gentoo and the upgraded version isnt available in portage |
11:32.37 | markey | ok |
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11:32.49 | markey | then maybe too aggressive "use" flags |
11:32.56 | markey | try to be conservative |
11:32.58 | markey | use the defaults |
11:33.12 | DomainW | im wondering, could it be (becuase it happens only with multi file downloads) could there be two many file open handles ? |
11:33.32 | markey | kinda doubt that |
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11:35.25 | DomainW | well if i have one torrent going its downloading 176 files the other one has about another 200 it crashes alot then but with the one not that often does it crash |
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11:46.52 | Sho_ | DomainW: 2.1.4 was released to fix a crashing problem with another client sending malicious packets in swarms |
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11:47.36 | Sho_ | DomainW: and 2.1.4 is available in Portage, of course |
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11:47.47 | Sho_ | http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=ktorrent |
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11:48.04 | DomainW | emerge -p ktorrent 2.1.3 |
11:48.09 | DomainW | is whats shown |
11:48.46 | Sho_ | DomainW: see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3 |
11:48.54 | DomainW | im not x86 |
11:49.09 | DomainW | and yes i know about using unstable |
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11:49.45 | Sho_ | DomainW: Doesn't matter. 2.1.4 is available for all architectures that 2.1.3 is available for, ~arch'ed, as per the table on the p.g.o link I gave you |
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12:49.09 | endra | hey, say I want the taskbar to act like it does on a mac, how could I do that? |
12:49.25 | endra | I saw it in a video, like.. you put your mouse over an icon, and it zooms in on it |
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12:52.30 | physos | endra: you have to get a taskbar replacement from kde-look.orgor kde-apps.org |
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12:53.46 | Jucato | endra: try to research on ksmoothdock, kooldock (both 3rd-party KDE apps) and kiba-dock (a GTK/GNOME app) |
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12:55.14 | physos | Jucato: Thanks, I was looking up the names since I could not remember them :) |
12:55.29 | Jucato | :) |
12:56.57 | endra | thank you, both |
12:57.12 | endra | have any of you used ksmoothdock or kooldock? |
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13:10.11 | waigl | hi, I'm looking for the code that does gpg actions on mails (sign/verify/encrypt/decrypt) in kmail, but the source are big and I can't find it. Can someone give me a pointer? |
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13:11.05 | Sinister | i have an error in kmail it says kcm_kmail.la is messed up anyone know why or how to fix it ? |
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13:12.25 | waigl | Sinister, did you install from sources? |
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14:13.47 | piranesi | system:/media doesnt' show the hd I just mounted from konsole, it shows only if the hd is mounted in fstab, I don't know what to do |
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14:19.27 | AnMaster | piranesi, hm I don't use it as for me it is mostly useless |
14:19.40 | AnMaster | I find that it has problems correctly showing lvm2 volumes |
14:20.00 | AnMaster | brb, phone |
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14:20.19 | piranesi | AnMaster, I'm mounting a normal vfat device |
14:20.56 | AnMaster | well as I said I avoid using the feature due to it simply fails when it comes to LVM2 volumes |
14:20.58 | mardi_soir | piranesi, does hald and dbus launched ? |
14:20.58 | AnMaster | so I got no idea |
14:21.15 | AnMaster | I mean it shows /usr as unmounted, /usr is on lvm2 |
14:21.25 | AnMaster | and mounted (kde is /usr/kde...) |
14:21.37 | piranesi | mardi_soir yes they are lauched |
14:21.50 | AnMaster | any idea why I get my problem with it btw? |
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14:22.47 | AnMaster | bbl telephone |
14:23.34 | piranesi | the strange thing is that if a put a line in fstab and I reboot the system, the same hd appear in system:/media (even if I unmount it and remount it) while if I cut that line in fstab, when I mount the hd I can only see it in the mount point but not in system:/media |
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14:26.34 | _syphilis_ | when IMAP login fails in KDE, how do i make it stop prompting for a password and trying to login, so i can change the account settings? ("Cancel" on the password dialog doesn't work, it just tries again) |
14:26.40 | unity | hey, while i am encoding something with mencoder in my homedir, gam_server is using up like 60% of the processor, how can i tell it to stop? |
14:26.41 | _syphilis_ | s/in KDE/in Kmail/ |
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14:35.29 | AnMaster | hm in system:/media any device-mapper volumes are always shown as unmounted, like lvm2 volumes, I *KNOW* my /usr is mounted (it is on lvm2) yet it is shown as unmounted |
14:35.30 | AnMaster | why? |
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14:45.51 | amine | hey |
14:45.55 | amine | how can i get rid of the taskbar? |
14:45.58 | piranesi | AnMaster, may be because you are seeing system:/media with an user that haven't mounted the drive |
14:46.46 | piranesi | i.e. when I mount a floppy with root, and then open system:/media I see it unmounted |
14:47.18 | AnMaster | piranesi, hm, I do see /dev/sda3 as mounted |
14:47.20 | AnMaster | that is / |
14:47.43 | AnMaster | but yet /dev/vg/usr that is mounted on /usr I see unmounted |
14:47.50 | AnMaster | both were mounted during boot |
14:47.58 | AnMaster | piranesi, that makes no sense to me |
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14:48.13 | piranesi | oh, yes, you're right |
14:48.29 | piranesi | maybe they are bugs of kde |
14:48.43 | AnMaster | yes it doesn't handle device mapper stuff it seems |
14:49.26 | AnMaster | anyway it is not hard to find as a normal user |
14:49.31 | AnMaster | afaik cat /proc/mounts |
14:49.33 | piranesi | which kde version do you have? |
14:49.33 | AnMaster | should show that |
14:49.43 | AnMaster | 3.5.5 |
14:49.49 | AnMaster | gentoo, x86_64 |
14:49.50 | piranesi | me too |
14:50.02 | piranesi | gentoo i386 |
14:50.16 | piranesi | I'm sure that with kubuntu this will not happen |
14:50.23 | AnMaster | oh? |
14:50.41 | AnMaster | cat /proc/mounts does work as normal user |
14:50.48 | AnMaster | as long as you don't use some hardened stuff |
14:50.56 | AnMaster | so it should be simple to see what is mounted |
14:51.10 | piranesi | I talked with a kubuntu user and he told me that he had not my problem |
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14:53.39 | amine | is it even possible to get rid of the original panel.. im using ksmoothdock and I do not want it anymore |
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14:55.01 | AnMaster | amine, kicker you mean? |
14:55.05 | Jucato | amine: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration |
14:55.15 | amine | AnMaster: the thing that has the start menu, etc. |
14:55.21 | AnMaster | kicker yes |
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14:55.47 | Jucato | amine: look at the Disable Kicker entry |
14:56.21 | amine | actually, i just realized that ksmoothdock does not have my current running icons |
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14:57.39 | markey | yo guys, amarok 1.4.6 just released :) |
14:57.45 | markey | could you all do us a favor |
14:57.50 | markey | and digg our story? |
14:57.52 | markey | http://digg.com/software/Amarok_1_4_6_released_with_LOTS_of_improvements |
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15:00.17 | SimAtWork | morning al |
15:00.27 | SimAtWork | markey: digging now |
15:00.41 | SimAtWork | well |
15:00.46 | SimAtWork | reading the article first |
15:02.18 | markey | thanks mate |
15:02.38 | SimAtWork | looks good |
15:02.43 | SimAtWork | but it looks like someone is mad at you |
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15:06.07 | markey | heh, that's just a known troll |
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15:09.08 | amine | Jucato: where can I see this disable kicker entry.. I Can't find it |
15:09.21 | Jucato | amine: in the link I gave above |
15:09.33 | amine | Oh, I did not see that. |
15:09.33 | amine | Thank you |
15:09.54 | SimAtWork | markey: you should reddit it also |
15:10.10 | SimAtWork | markey: but shouldn't thepage have some screen shots too? |
15:10.39 | markey | well it looks the same as the last version |
15:10.45 | markey | just with better icons |
15:10.46 | amine | Would you know how to add the 'running icons' part of kicker in ksmoothdock |
15:10.52 | SimAtWork | not everyone who reads that is going to be familiar with amarok |
15:10.54 | amine | .. so i can right click -> exit, etc |
15:11.04 | SimAtWork | well, hopefully not. |
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15:13.22 | blinx | http://dpaste.com/12682/ <- anyone an idea? |
15:13.53 | blinx | http://dpaste.com/12683/ <- the file exists |
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15:16.29 | amine | restarting x, brb |
15:16.49 | PhinnFort | blinx: regenerated your ld.cache.thingy? |
15:16.52 | PhinnFort | or something |
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15:19.01 | blinx | PhinnFort: how I should do that? |
15:19.19 | PhinnFort | blinx: just noticed portage did it everytime after an emerge on gentoo |
15:19.32 | blinx | hmm |
15:19.38 | blinx | ldconfig? |
15:19.40 | PhinnFort | peeked in the cache file, and it contained the paths to all libs |
15:19.42 | PhinnFort | try |
15:19.49 | blinx | no effect |
15:19.57 | blinx | but wait, I will make clean it |
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15:20.42 | amine | back |
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15:20.47 | amine | how would i go about.. enabling kicker again |
15:21.38 | SimAtWork | enabling? |
15:21.46 | SimAtWork | alt-f2, kicker, enter |
15:21.49 | SimAtWork | if you've killed it that is. |
15:21.58 | blinx | amine: launch it! |
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15:22.48 | amine | .. i disabled it |
15:23.36 | amine | kwriteconfig --file ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop --group "Desktop Entry" --key Hidden true |
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15:23.54 | amine | I tried hidden false, but it doesn't work |
15:24.18 | blinx | did you try to open the file with an editor? |
15:25.16 | amine | it does not exist |
15:25.29 | blinx | then create it |
15:25.39 | wolsni | amine: you said you're having problems with kicker? |
15:26.01 | amine | wolsni: i disabled it, and i can't re-enable it to open on startup |
15:26.20 | wolsni | how did you disable it? |
15:26.28 | amine | kwriteconfig --file ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop --group "Desktop Entry" --key Hidden true |
15:27.09 | amine | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration |
15:27.31 | PhinnFort | anyone want to help debug something, as I'm not very proficient with c++?: http://rafb.net/p/3lmXOx56.html |
15:27.40 | PhinnFort | the source file in question: http://rafb.net/p/oSQefl22.html |
15:27.45 | wolsni | amine: and you tried deleting that .desktop file? |
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15:28.18 | amine | nope. |
15:28.22 | amine | It does not exist |
15:29.13 | Secutor | Is there documentation on how to migrate kmail, kontact, etc. from one computer to another? |
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15:29.24 | PhinnFort | Secutor: copy your home folder? |
15:29.31 | wolsni | then probably your kicker just happened to crash and that got saved in your session |
15:29.31 | wolsni | if you run kicker manually does it show up all right? |
15:29.40 | amine | yes sir |
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15:30.04 | wolsni | amine: i imagine you just need to save your session while kicker is running |
15:30.14 | amine | I will try that |
15:30.15 | Secutor | PhinnFort: maybe just the .kde/share/apps directories? |
15:30.32 | amine | Is there a way I can preserve this program (ksirc) while I restart? |
15:30.33 | wolsni | Secutor: you probably want the .kde/share/config files as well |
15:30.43 | Secutor | k, thanks. |
15:30.47 | wolsni | amine: save that as part of your session as well |
15:30.55 | amine | how? |
15:31.03 | amine | .. just leave it open? |
15:31.13 | amine | I was referring to the connection itself |
15:31.15 | wolsni | everything that's running when you save your session will be a part of it |
15:31.31 | wolsni | ah, well, that I don't think you can do, sorry |
15:31.38 | amine | it's all good. |
15:31.43 | amine | thank you for your help :) |
15:31.52 | wolsni | good luck |
15:31.57 | amine | blinx: you too |
15:32.03 | amine | and SimAtWork |
15:32.15 | principe-ante | #gnome |
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15:34.57 | amine | wolsni: it did not work :( |
15:35.16 | amine | kicker was off when I logged in (I did a full logout) |
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15:37.59 | wolsni | amine: well, I suppose you could just do a "ln -s $(which kicker) ~/.kde/Autostart" |
15:38.53 | amine | suppose so, thank you |
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15:40.17 | amine | off i go, thanks again |
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15:41.31 | metbsd | my kde has no sound |
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15:59.53 | Gigantic | :) http://youtube.com/watch?v=BPDhLcqJrWM |
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16:01.35 | Deformative | Hmm, kaffeine is yucky... |
16:01.46 | Deformative | When it is full screen I cannot get it back to windowed mode. |
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16:02.39 | metbsd | help, i need to reset /tmp/.ICE-unix? |
16:02.47 | metbsd | is there quick fix to this |
16:02.58 | Gigantic | rm ? :) |
16:03.11 | Deformative | Oh, double click. |
16:03.13 | Deformative | Never min.d |
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16:03.32 | Gigantic | Ctrl+F too |
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16:04.05 | Gigantic | Ctrl+Shift+F |
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16:12.12 | xsacha | hey anyone here familar with kaffeine and DVB |
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16:13.11 | xsacha | when i start kaffeine, it goes to a list of things to do: play a CD, DVD, watch digital TV and so on -- was wondering if there was a way to automatically select digital tv like there is for dvd and cd |
16:13.43 | metbsd | how to start kaffeine? |
16:13.56 | Gigantic | xsacha: you mean add the button to the main context? |
16:14.00 | metbsd | i don't have kaffeine |
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16:14.09 | lquessenberry | anyone know how to install Java Runtime Environment? |
16:14.17 | SimAtWork | anyone know if kde works with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexentaOS |
16:14.18 | SimAtWork | ? |
16:14.30 | Gigantic | lquessenberry: depends on the distro |
16:14.36 | mardi_soir | lquessenberry, it is not a kde problem :) |
16:14.43 | Gigantic | metbsd: duh? |
16:14.55 | metbsd | i need to install it |
16:15.07 | lquessenberry | sorry |
16:15.19 | xsacha | Gigantic: i mean start kaffeine with tv playing like "kaffeine DVD" will start kaffeine playing the DVD |
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16:15.35 | mardi_soir | lquessenberry, no offense .. look at your package manager |
16:15.36 | Gigantic | SimAtWork: KDE works in Solaris, so it has to, yes |
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16:16.25 | metbsd | i'm running kde3.5.7 in netbsd |
16:16.34 | metbsd | but i have some problem |
16:16.34 | Torin | SimAtWork: it works |
16:16.41 | Torin | SimAtWork: i used it long time ago |
16:16.42 | metbsd | i'm not sure if sound works |
16:16.47 | lquessenberry | i am using sabayon and it's not on the list at kuroo |
16:17.10 | Gigantic | xsacha: no that I know but you can do with Xine ;) |
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16:17.18 | xsacha | k |
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16:17.59 | mardi_soir | lquessenberry, in a terminal as root do |
16:18.04 | mardi_soir | emerge -av virtual/jre |
16:18.06 | lquessenberry | ok |
16:18.10 | mardi_soir | or find jre in kurro |
16:18.18 | lquessenberry | tried in kuroo |
16:18.21 | lquessenberry | no luck |
16:18.26 | lquessenberry | but i will emerge |
16:18.42 | mardi_soir | lquessenberry, maybe you ll need to do emerge --sync before what i told you |
16:19.52 | lquessenberry | thanks gota run |
16:20.21 | mardi_soir | lquessenberry, if you provide for applet suppor do USE="nsplugin" emerge -av virtual/jre |
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16:20.32 | mardi_soir | or USE="nsplugin" emerge -av virtual/jre dev-java/sun-jre-bin |
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16:21.32 | mardi_soir | lquessenberry, /j #sabayon |
16:21.34 | mardi_soir | :) |
16:21.50 | piranesi | what a weird thing, I'm entering in a dir and trying to modify files owned by root and if I do it entering from system/:media I can do it! |
16:22.55 | metbsd | i have no sound, help |
16:23.12 | xsacha | Gigantic: problem with xine is it says it cant find any channels and i dont know where to set up the channels |
16:23.54 | xsacha | channels.conf |
16:24.25 | Gigantic | xsacha: man has to tell... dvd://40 --->channel 40 |
16:24.40 | Gigantic | xsacha: or something alike... |
16:24.45 | xsacha | but to set up the channels? |
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16:27.16 | xsacha | dvb:// ? |
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16:37.51 | CPrgmSwR2 | I started writing up specifications for my kollagame |
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16:41.57 | Gigantic | xsacha: ah, there's klear too |
16:42.00 | metbsd | why kde noatun does not work, but xmms work |
16:42.35 | Gigantic | xsacha: specifical for dvb (P.D.: Yes:dvb://) |
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16:44.26 | xsacha | :( dvb:// doesnt work here.. i have a /dev/dvb but it doesnt seem to like playing that.. only way i can get it to play is clicking on "Digital TV" |
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16:47.14 | metbsd | can soneone tell me? |
16:47.14 | redrod | If anyone has Krita installed.. Can you please check this image? http://r0k.us/graphics/images/64kSnake.png It's 16-bit grayscale, and I think that my Photoshop and GIMP do not process it correctly. |
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16:51.02 | metbsd | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-397a-467b1cba) |
16:51.12 | metbsd | i have this error when i play music with juk |
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16:52.05 | metbsd | can someone at least give me some help |
16:53.08 | metbsd | fuck you people |
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16:53.37 | markey | wtf? |
16:53.53 | metbsd | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-397a-467b1cba) |
16:53.58 | metbsd | what the fuck is this |
16:54.09 | markey | hmm.. |
16:54.16 | markey | definitely not normal |
16:54.32 | markey | could be a permission problem |
16:54.40 | markey | check the folder permissions |
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16:54.50 | metbsd | what permission should it be |
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16:55.04 | markey | writable for sure |
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16:57.12 | piranesi | I need someone who try to: 1) open konsole, 2)gain root privileges (i.e. with su) 2)create the file /home/userrname/text.txt 3)write something 4)try to modify and save that file with the normal user from konqueror with kate 5) try to modify and save the file from system:/media with kate, I can do it like 5) but not like 4) |
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16:59.02 | mardi_soir | piranesi, media maybe consider system:/media as removable device |
16:59.19 | mardi_soir | so overide chmod |
16:59.28 | metbsd | unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-5aca-467b1d1e |
16:59.34 | mardi_soir | maybe cause group plugdev or haldeamon |
16:59.38 | metbsd | and it belong to user:wheel |
16:59.46 | mardi_soir | (did not tryed i suppose ) |
16:59.58 | piranesi | mardi_soir, maybe you're right |
17:00.00 | metbsd | srwxr-xr-x |
17:01.24 | principe-ante | hi |
17:01.37 | mardi_soir | piranesi, my linux kde computer is for my own usage so never i noticed the problem ;( |
17:01.37 | metbsd | what should i do to it? |
17:01.49 | principe-ante | please help me with a question |
17:01.56 | metbsd | help me with an answer |
17:01.57 | principe-ante | how use perl? |
17:02.07 | principe-ante | jajaja |
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17:02.09 | markey | heh |
17:02.15 | Gigantic | principe-ante: duuh? |
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17:02.19 | markey | you want to learn perl? |
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17:02.31 | mardi_soir | metbsd, the whole directory or just the file |
17:02.36 | principe-ante | who speak in spanish? |
17:02.45 | markey | hola |
17:02.49 | principe-ante | I`m from Chile |
17:02.55 | mardi_soir | if the directory is not acccessible .. no way against the file permissions |
17:02.55 | metbsd | i'm from china |
17:02.58 | mardi_soir | i guess |
17:03.00 | metbsd | who speak chinese |
17:03.06 | metbsd | forget it |
17:03.11 | jhutchins_lt | Is there a way to globally set the priority of applications? For instance, make mplayer the first priority for all mime types it supports? |
17:03.20 | mardi_soir | jhutchins_lt, yeah |
17:03.25 | metbsd | it just won't connect to /tmp/ksocket-necro |
17:03.32 | mardi_soir | right click on the file type you have |
17:03.45 | mardi_soir | and then look a button to set what is you prefered application |
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17:03.59 | jhutchins_lt | Hrm. I don't always get that button... |
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17:04.08 | mardi_soir | right click > proprety |
17:04.24 | Gigantic | principe-ante: there's a kcontrol module too btw |
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17:07.14 | mardi_soir | jhutchins_lt, look at yuo private message |
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17:08.35 | jhutchins_lt | mardi_soir: It looks like you have to do it with a local file, but it does appear to have changed the priority for several file types at once - thanks, got what I wanted! |
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17:32.43 | SimAtWork | man koffice takes a while to compile! |
17:32.46 | SimAtWork | i had forgotton |
17:32.51 | SimAtWork | i shoulda used a binary instead! |
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17:46.29 | Skrot- | Sho_: ping? |
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17:54.26 | Gigantic | Pong |
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17:59.42 | basselito | Hey guys... does anybody sync a palm in linux/kde/kpilot? |
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18:00.47 | basselito | not a very active channel! =/ |
18:01.09 | PhilRod | it'll warm up - give it time |
18:01.31 | basselito | Hehe, how much time? /me is in a constant hurry! :D |
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18:02.41 | Sho_ | Skrot-: semi-pong |
18:02.55 | Gigantic | basselito: patience is a virtue |
18:03.14 | Gigantic | basselito: You need an app like kpilot |
18:03.23 | basselito | Gigantic: yes, if you get paid... ;) |
18:03.34 | Gigantic | basselito: but before, the computer has to recognize the palm |
18:03.58 | basselito | Gigantic: Yep, obex is working both ways, but I can't hotsync! :'( |
18:04.02 | Gigantic | o.O |
18:04.06 | Skrot- | Sho_: Remember I was in here last night whining about kwin composition? Well, kwin --replace says that composition was not avalible duing compile, but cmakekde told me that composition was avalible as an optional feature. Did I need some extra flag to enable it? |
18:04.16 | Gigantic | ah, use kitchensync...? |
18:04.53 | Skrot- | available* |
18:04.59 | Gigantic | basselito: yep, didn't try myself but take a look to kitchensysn, maybe it help |
18:05.56 | basselito | gigantic: thanks for tip! :) |
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18:07.24 | Sho_ | Skrot-: if the necessary libs aren't available it would output 'XRender and XComposite extensions are required for KWin compositing support', otherwise it should work |
18:08.30 | Skrot- | Sho_: Okay, I remember cmakekde saying that composition was available as an optional feature, so I guess that means it was installed. Any idea why "kwin --replace" would say that composition was not available during compile then? |
18:11.22 | Sho_ | Skrot-: Not from the top of my head, sorry |
18:11.28 | Skrot- | okay :) |
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18:13.22 | Sho_ | Skrot-: What distro are you on, btw? |
18:13.28 | Skrot- | Kubuntu Feisty |
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18:13.41 | Sho_ | ok, never built it on that one, sorry |
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18:14.16 | Skrot- | No problem. Is setting GLMode mandatory by the way? |
18:14.55 | Sho_ | Skrot-: It should try TFP first, then fall back to SHM if the extension is unavailable, if GLMode isn't set |
18:14.57 | Skrot- | It's set to TFP right now, with nvidia 9631-drivers |
18:15.07 | Sho_ | yes, that should work |
18:15.43 | Skrot- | Do you know if there's some sort of log, other than starting kwin from a shell? |
18:15.51 | Sho_ | Try manually setting SHM for kicks, though, as it should work nearly everywhere |
18:16.35 | Sho_ | Other than ~/.xession-errors ... nope |
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18:17.39 | Skrot- | Yay, there's "kwin: Compositing was not available at compile time" again |
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18:18.49 | Sho_ | you're saying compiz works on the same system, though? |
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18:18.57 | Skrot- | indeed |
18:19.06 | neopc | OI |
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18:19.14 | Sho_ | Skrot-: self-compiled or ubuntu's package? |
18:19.28 | Skrot- | self-compiled from SVN as of some time yesterday |
18:19.41 | Sho_ | then libxcomposite-dev and x11proto-composite-dev should be there .. |
18:19.50 | DANY | OIE |
18:20.24 | Skrot- | Sho_: They're both installed |
18:20.32 | Sho_ | ok |
18:20.51 | Sho_ | odd *scratches head* :) |
18:21.07 | Skrot- | Let me make clean and get output from cmakekde again |
18:21.35 | Sho_ | Perhaps the CMake logic to find the libs is failing for some reason, but I imagine the Ubuntuers would have discovered that by now |
18:22.04 | Skrot- | Says "The following list of OPTIONAL packages where located on your system. \n You will have all the following features available from this software \n + Compisting support |
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18:23.00 | Sho_ | Skrot-: I'll move to a query for some pasting |
18:24.03 | whirm | a friend is asking me how to disable de popup menu when he drags files to konqueror (move, copy, link, cancel) |
18:24.18 | whirm | someone knows if this can be disabled? |
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18:25.47 | litb | compiz is not stable |
18:25.56 | litb | it doesn't show content of java windows |
18:26.08 | litb | does not maximize the virtualbox window |
18:26.26 | litb | kwin has no such problems |
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18:47.42 | root__ | hi |
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18:51.30 | GNU\colossus | where does kopete save jabber "groupchat bookmarks"? I've grepped thru nearly all my config files, can't seem to find those damn entries |
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19:12.28 | eNTi | GNU\colossus: #kopete :) |
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19:22.57 | teknopagan | Afternoon, folks |
19:23.01 | teknopagan | easy question for you |
19:23.44 | teknopagan | What files do I need to copy from one home folder to another to cover all settings |
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19:24.37 | teknopagan | more specifically, which files/folders would I copy from user A's home to user B's home to make them look and function identically? |
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19:25.51 | teknopagan | Anyone here? |
19:26.50 | straw | teknopagan: create a 'dummy' user, configure and tweak, then copy whatever's there |
19:27.10 | teknopagan | Hmm - there's a thought |
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19:27.53 | teknopagan | Of course, this is a one-off kinda thing - might as well just fully reconfigure my new account in that case |
19:28.03 | straw | oh, ok :) |
19:28.21 | straw | is it just for kde? |
19:28.29 | teknopagan | yup |
19:29.23 | straw | well, you could copy ~/.kde and chown everything to the new user. but that'd mean mails and other stuff you might not want copied |
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19:30.48 | teknopagan | That's the thing - I did that, but the settings didn't all take |
19:31.16 | teknopagan | for example, the color scheme is mostly right, but the window decorations aren't |
19:32.01 | nik7 | if you use custom win decos (which you installed extra), then they aren't in .kde |
19:32.05 | Przemcio78 | i've downloaded kde4 livecd but it's even unstable to test :/ |
19:32.34 | teknopagan | Ahhh...might have been custom. |
19:32.40 | teknopagan | That would 'splain it. |
19:33.02 | teknopagan | Of course, there's also simple things like # of desktops and names thereof |
19:33.15 | teknopagan | simple to fix, I know, but why didn't that copy? |
19:33.15 | Przemcio78 | i think it's highly doubtful we'll have kde4 this year, but i'd rather wait than use something buggy and crashing |
19:36.00 | teknopagan | Ooh - just had athought - brb |
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19:47.07 | Lacrymology | hi |
19:47.19 | Lacrymology | do be nice and help me pimp up my desktop? |
19:48.05 | wolsni | Lacrymology: kde-look.org should meet all your pimping needs |
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19:49.13 | Lacrymology | I wants decoration-less and transparent consoles to begin with... which one do you recommend? I used to use aterm but that was with fluxbox, and I get lost with kde.. it's too big |
19:49.16 | Lacrymology | wolsni: let's see |
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19:50.06 | sabayonlive-1533 | www.kde-look.org ; www.kbfx.org |
19:50.39 | SimAtWork | Przemcio78: i'm not doubtful only because i saw how quickly koffice came about |
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19:52.17 | wolsni | "decoration-less" ? |
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19:52.33 | sharp15 | does kscreensaver require an executable stack? (is SSP going to make it crash all of the time?) |
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19:52.52 | sharp15 | wolsni: you are still on line. |
19:52.58 | wolsni | hooray |
19:53.05 | litb | Lacrymology: try yakuake |
19:53.17 | wolsni | konversation says my lag is 99s :( |
19:53.29 | litb | my lag is 235ms |
19:53.33 | wolsni | now it's somthing reasonable, hooray |
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19:53.54 | sharp15 | wolsni: if it keeps groing the server's probably approaching a netsplit again. |
19:54.31 | wolsni | no, i think it's more to do with my lousy wireless reception |
19:54.50 | wolsni | i moved to a different room and now it's 148ms |
19:55.02 | sharp15 | oh. i meant jumping from ~2 to ~200 in 5 seconds. |
19:55.34 | sharp15 | doesn't matter i'm probably wrong. |
19:55.40 | wolsni | you can't jump from 2 to 200 in 5 seconds |
19:55.49 | wolsni | it would take, you know, 198 seconds |
19:55.57 | sharp15 | then my memory is broke. |
19:56.05 | sharp15 | (mind not RAM) |
19:56.30 | wolsni | unless i'm mistaken on what this "lag" thing is |
19:56.54 | sharp15 | forget i said it. i'm probably spewing junk info again. |
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20:40.06 | Lacrymology | someone here told me to use yakuake, and it's all very nice except for the horrible bar on the bottom, and that there seems to be no way of getting rid of it |
20:41.10 | Sho_ | Lacrymology: What exactly qualifies it as "horrible"? |
20:41.18 | Lacrymology | Sho_: everything |
20:41.23 | Lacrymology | Sho_: I want detailless |
20:41.37 | Lacrymology | just a slightly darker pseudotransparent box with text in it |
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20:42.07 | Sho_ | Lacrymology: Well, the app is skinnable |
20:42.14 | wolsni | Lacrymology: just use konsole and disable the window border |
20:42.37 | Sho_ | Lacrymology: http://www.kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/29153-2.jpg is a popular alternative skin, for example ... there are some others on kde-look.org |
20:42.40 | Lacrymology | wolsni: how do I get that to be the default? |
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20:43.03 | Sho_ | Lacrymology: Via "Special Application Settings" in the window menu -> Advanced |
20:43.12 | Lacrymology | I think I'm going back to aterm, it has easy command line options |
20:43.13 | Lacrymology | let me see |
20:44.39 | wolsni | Lacrymology: for the hidden tab bar and menu in konsole, set everything how you want, then right click and choose Settings->"Save as default" |
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20:46.50 | Lacrymology | wolsni: getting there. Do you know what the border around the konsole is called? |
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20:47.43 | wolsni | Lacrymology: ? you mean the window decoration? |
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20:48.35 | Lacrymology | wolsni: I don't think so. Now I have no menu bar, and no border, but there's still a kind of outline |
20:49.10 | wolsni | oh that |
20:49.56 | wolsni | afaik there's no way to get rid of that, but it doesn't bug me so I haven't looked too hard |
20:50.34 | wolsni | you could look for a widget style that minimizes that border |
20:50.48 | Lacrymology | grr |
20:50.57 | Lacrymology | is it kde.. let's check what happens with aterm |
20:51.20 | wolsni | yes, that border is a feature of konsole |
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20:55.16 | gxmzack | how do i change icon themes |
20:55.24 | gxmzack | like when im browing folders in konqueror |
20:55.56 | gxmzack | im using slack11, with fluxbox, but i use some kde apps |
20:56.03 | wolsni | gxmzack: the icon theme chooser in kcontrol |
20:56.19 | wolsni | "kcmshell icons" to jump straight to it |
20:56.39 | gxmzack | wolsni: thanks :) |
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21:09.50 | PhinnFort | ~attack me |
21:09.51 | apt | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing phinnfort |
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21:09.58 | PhinnFort | apt: botsnack |
21:09.58 | apt | :), PhinnFort |
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21:10.43 | wolsni | PhinnFort: apt has been gone for a while now |
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21:10.56 | PhinnFort | I know, I just hoped... |
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21:12.04 | blubbi | hi guys, is there an straight forward method of sorting the KDE-Startmenu alphabetical? |
21:12.47 | pinotree | the kmenu is automatically sorted alphabetically, already |
21:12.55 | mishehu | hmm... got kdevelop 3.4.1 w/kde 3.5.7... am having problems with syntax guessing... keeps saying "file parsed, but code-model not updated due to errors". is there a configuration I need to set or a manual way to get it to rebuild the code-model? |
21:13.01 | blubbi | pinotree: not in my case |
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21:14.55 | blubbi | pinotree: its wired sorted.. |
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21:15.10 | pinotree | weird |
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21:17.21 | blubbi | pinotree: http://olausson.name/temp/kdemenu.png |
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21:17.44 | blubbi | pinotree: maybe this is sorted and you can explain the sort criteria |
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21:18.00 | Pupeno | After moving my mails to Evolution and back to Kontact I have a lot of duplicated emails. Kontact's remove duplicated email worked for lots of them, but there are a lot with very small differences... like two characters in X-Status. Any ideas how to clean that up? |
21:18.19 | pinotree | blubbi: ah, no idea either ( i thought you were talking about the top-level menu) |
21:19.01 | blubbi | pinotree: no sry, I should be more precise |
21:19.21 | PhinnFort | blubbi: do you have a lot of .desktop files in your home folder? |
21:19.34 | blubbi | PhinnFort: in ~ |
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21:20.20 | PhinnFort | blubbi: more like ~/.local |
21:20.49 | blubbi | PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/iwMS6730.html |
21:21.42 | PhinnFort | blubbi: tror KDE først tar de globale .desktop filene, og så de lokale |
21:21.47 | PhinnFort | derfor blir det ikke alfabetisk |
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21:21.52 | pinotree | aehm |
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21:22.14 | PhinnFort | pinotree: norwegian no go? |
21:22.19 | PhinnFort | :P |
21:22.25 | blubbi | PhinnFort: mmmh, okay |
21:22.45 | PhinnFort | blubbi: try either deleting those .desktop files or moving them to wherever they're stored globally |
21:23.04 | blubbi | PhinnFort: du kann prata svenskt/dansk ;-) |
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21:23.15 | blubbi | PhinnFort: hur gissade du? |
21:23.26 | PhinnFort | ./.gnome/apps/TransGaming/Programs/Norstedts ordb?cker/Norstedts svensk-tysk ordbok.desktop |
21:23.32 | PhinnFort | :P |
21:23.34 | blubbi | hrrhrr |
21:24.32 | blubbi | okay, but international chan.. so lets talk english ;-) |
21:24.38 | sharp15 | is there a way to turn off kscreensaver from the command line or through a text config file? |
21:24.48 | PhinnFort | ;) |
21:25.56 | blubbi | PhinnFort: so moving all the desktopfiles to the global folder... thats not a nice sollution |
21:26.08 | blubbi | PhinnFort: dirty workaround |
21:26.33 | blubbi | cause not every user wants to have all that progs inside his tree |
21:27.30 | blubbi | ah, I can life with it ;-) |
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21:28.26 | PhinnFort | blubbi: but make sure you note which files you move |
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21:28.31 | PhinnFort | I'm not sure it's the right solution |
21:28.34 | PhinnFort | :P |
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21:29.35 | netfrik | On Fedora 7, I made thunderbird my default email client in KDE CC. But when I use firefox and mailto link, the evolutions is starting up? |
21:30.08 | sharp15 | better question than my previous, does passing the following "dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface enable 0" disable the screensaver? |
21:30.24 | netfrik | *evolution |
21:30.54 | wolsni | netfrik: firefox is not a KDE app so it doesn't follow the KDE global settings |
21:30.55 | sharp15 | netfrik: you'd need to edit prefs.js or user.js but i haven't used TB in a while so i don't remember the line. |
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21:31.50 | netfrik | sharp15: I'll try that, thanks! |
21:31.52 | blubbi | PhinnFort: thanks |
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21:34.57 | sharp15 | hopefully my question will be answered that quickly, but i doubt it. |
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21:38.28 | cassiopea | Hey. Are there some other bluetooth services I can activate through kde, for instance, my cellphone supports a bluetooth av headset, is there a way to have that play through the computer? |
21:39.05 | PhinnFort | cassiopea: I saw that in the last issue of Linux Magazine |
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21:41.49 | PhilRod | sharp15: probably. Try it :-) |
21:43.24 | wolsni | PhilRod: he already asked his question |
21:43.42 | wolsni | and answered it too, i think |
21:44.14 | sharp15 | PhilRod: problem is I can't tell. if i try to open the screensaver portion of the control center the control center crashes, or through "Configure Desktop" context menu entry kdesktop crashes. |
21:44.19 | PhilRod | wolsni: yeah, that was my answer to his second question |
21:44.30 | sharp15 | PhilRod: related to SSP being enabled. |
21:45.24 | PhilRod | what's ssp? |
21:45.55 | sharp15 | stack smashing protection, a.k.a. PAX, or in the windows world DEP and NX-Bit. |
21:46.27 | sharp15 | those last two are actually hardware names for the same thing. sorry. |
21:46.46 | PhilRod | well, actually, I vaguely know what you mean |
21:46.59 | PhilRod | anyway, in answer to your first question: |
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21:48.01 | PhilRod | kwriteconfig --file kdesktoprc --group ScreenSaver --key Enabled --type bool false |
21:48.10 | PhilRod | or something very similar to that |
21:48.21 | PhilRod | you might also need to restart kdesktop to get it to pick up the change |
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21:48.50 | MinceR | is there a nice way to select a new resolution but not via xrandr so that the virtual screen resolution remains? |
21:49.29 | MinceR | ctrl+alt+keypad+/- seem to be inaccessible as i'm on a notebook |
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21:49.31 | PhinnFort | MinceR: ctrl+alt++? |
21:49.34 | PhinnFort | ah |
21:49.39 | MinceR | and numlock doesn't seem to do the thing either |
21:49.53 | MinceR | nor fn |
21:50.43 | PhinnFort | how about a sledge? |
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21:51.00 | sharp15 | PhilRod: it worked thanks for your help. |
21:51.13 | PhilRod | yw :-) |
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21:52.05 | MinceR | i'll try the xvidtune command line arguments |
21:52.29 | MinceR | maybe it doesn't switch because i forgot to add modes :) |
21:52.38 | sharp15 | my appologies for being an insistent pain. i wasn't expecting to get any assistance without forcing the issue. i'll work on avoiding that next time. |
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21:53.02 | Skrot- | Sho_: Got compositing working after recompiling |
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22:02.55 | MinceR | yeah, that was the problem, it works nicely now |
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22:03.39 | Sinister | i have an error in kmail it says kcm_kmail.la is messed up anyone know why or how to fix it ? |
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22:04.04 | SimAtWork | i have festival installed |
22:04.16 | SimAtWork | is there any way to get konqueror to read a document to me? |
22:04.25 | SimAtWork | like highlight, right click, read |
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22:11.09 | RawSewage | yes |
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22:19.54 | Sho_ | Skrot-: cool |
22:20.04 | SimAtWork | RawSewage: how? |
22:20.20 | RawSewage | Festival reads docs? |
22:20.37 | RawSewage | right click a txt file for example |
22:20.44 | RawSewage | click Properties |
22:20.59 | RawSewage | click the Wrench |
22:21.03 | SimAtWork | RawSewage: i was hoping to be able to play just a part of a text file |
22:21.12 | RawSewage | oh |
22:21.14 | SimAtWork | so i could be at a website.. highlight, right click, and play |
22:21.16 | RawSewage | I see |
22:21.29 | RawSewage | maybe Klipper can do it |
22:21.49 | RawSewage | you use Klipper , right |
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22:25.01 | SimAtWork | i guess so :) |
22:25.05 | SimAtWork | never actually used it |
22:25.09 | SimAtWork | but yes it's open and running |
22:25.23 | RawSewage | I cant live without Klipper |
22:25.38 | RawSewage | Im almost positive Klipper will do what you want though |
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22:26.13 | SimAtWork | hrm |
22:26.15 | SimAtWork | playing with it now |
22:26.20 | SimAtWork | thea ctions don't seem to do it though |
22:26.49 | RawSewage | the app name is festival, right |
22:27.02 | RawSewage | Add action... |
22:27.23 | RawSewage | I dont know |
22:27.29 | RawSewage | sorry |
22:27.52 | SimAtWork | it's ok |
22:27.55 | SimAtWork | i don't know either :) |
22:28.13 | RawSewage | what a dead channel for 300+ users |
22:28.22 | SimAtWork | it's not a good time of day |
22:28.25 | RawSewage | oh |
22:28.41 | RawSewage | I guess most people are in Germany |
22:28.48 | SimAtWork | dunno about that |
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22:33.09 | RawSewage | I guess you would delete all existing actions in Klipper |
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22:35.51 | RawSewage | ok |
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22:35.57 | RawSewage | dont delete all existing |
22:36.08 | RawSewage | add a new action. just enter ^ |
22:36.21 | RawSewage | then right click your new action, and add festival %s |
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22:52.30 | garotosopa | Hi. When I run kdcop the window is loaded and then it freezes completely. What could cause it? Qt 3.3.7 KDE 3.5.5 KDCOP 0.1 -- Debian Testing |
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23:06.14 | roho | is it possible to opacify the background of a konqueror window? |
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