IRC log for #kde on 20070621

00:00.16timrsmaybe a channel for kde developers might get you an answer, i can't remember its name though
00:00.35piranesiI noticed that the hd shows in media:/ only if it's mounted at boot-time
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00:00.48Jucatotimrs: #kde-devel
00:01.01piranesior if it's mounted at boot-time, then unmounted and then remounted
00:01.42agenttimrs, Jucato: Thank you.
00:01.57Jucatoer sorry, that was for agent hehehe
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00:02.08JohnFluxpiranesi: that's fairly distro specific
00:02.26JohnFluxpiranesi: ubuntu for example uses just  /media/
00:03.37piranesiJohnFlux: I mean that if I mount i.e. /dev/sda4 in /mnt/sda4 after the system boot I can't find in the kde media:/ window
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00:04.11piranesiif I put in fstab a line for /dev/sda4 I will find it on that window
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00:05.32JohnFluxpiranesi: i think that these days you are supposed to only use /mnt  for stuff in fstab
00:05.35JohnFluxpiranesi: and /media   for the rest
00:06.14piranesino, I'm on gentoo, I don't use the /media dir
00:06.24timrsi've never understood that.. i learned something, i'm going to cry now..
00:06.35piranesiI always mount on /mnt
00:07.18olskolirccan someone help me get java into konqueror please?
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00:08.19timrssettings > configure konqueror > java > then set the java dir/command w/e
00:08.57olskolircwhat is java dir/command w/e
00:08.57timrshold on
00:08.57olskolircdo i need to install a special java?
00:08.58olskolircok
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00:09.55timrssettings > configure konqueror > java & javascript > check enable java globally & set the command to run java (usually java)
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00:10.17timrsif java is not installed, then head to java.com and install it
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00:10.48Jucatoor consult your distro on how to install java
00:11.02olskolircjava is enabled globally in java and java script
00:11.22olskolircin path to java, it has the word java in it
00:11.29timrsone version of java doesn't work with konqueror, you need to upgrade it then
00:11.29olskolircby default
00:11.39olskolircok to which java
00:11.49olskolirci just installed jre1 version 6
00:11.49timrsthe newest version
00:11.55timrsoh
00:11.59olskolircjre or sdk or which one
00:12.05timrsjre
00:12.18timrsbut it should work, i think 4 doesn't work
00:12.19olskolircok i don't know why its not working
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00:12.33timrs1.4 shouldn't work, but 1.6 should
00:13.01olskolircok
00:13.18timrsi can't help you anymore, except that i have 1.5 and it works for me
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00:13.53olskolircok
00:13.57olskolircthanks timrs
00:14.00timrsoh, java doesn't install the 'java' thing in /usr/bin, so upgrading doesn't work unless you change the command to run java to where it was installed
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00:14.46olskolircohhh thats where i have it
00:14.53olskolircso just moving it should help then right?
00:15.01timrstry it
00:17.41olskolircwhat is the path to your java timrs?
00:18.35timrsolskoli....: /usr/java/jre1.5...../bin/java
00:19.25timrscan someone tell me wat RAW means (i typed / first) and weather people can read it
00:20.54olskolircand i want to load the .so plugin right?
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00:21.09timrsno, you dont
00:21.13olskolircohhh
00:21.18olskolircwhat do i want to load
00:21.34timrsi don't understand what you're talking about, setting the path should work fine
00:21.49olskolircthe path all the way to .so
00:22.36timrsno
00:22.39timrsto java
00:22.43timrsi have to go, cya
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00:27.26olskolirci got it :-)
00:27.28olskolircthanks
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00:32.49DeformativeWhat is a good dvd ripper?
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00:36.22Jucato:P
00:36.54DeformativeErm, no replies?
00:37.56troyDeformative: k3b works - but only does the straightforward stuff (that is, assuming your distro hasn't crippled it to avoid legal problems...)
00:38.35DeformativeHmm.
00:38.38DeformativeLike divx and stuff?
00:38.54troyno, it just does disc-to-disc copying I think...
00:39.27troyhaven't actually ripped a DVD in a while
00:40.51strawit's kind of a shame there seems to be no real way to cleanly disable potentially illegal features of a given kde module
00:41.07strawforcing packagers to hack up the module
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00:42.40troyI think it's a compile time option - but you're thinking of run time options?
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00:43.32strawwell, i know fedora has to patch kdemultimedia a fair bit
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00:44.11strawthen what's patched out is supplied by a 3rd party repo
00:44.24timrsand novell kills xine
00:44.35strawfedora does too
00:45.06strawbut xine is handled in the same fashion
00:45.28strawthe big distros do
00:45.41timrsthat don't advise them in favor of commersial products
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00:50.18timrseverytime a multiple scerosis commercial thing says MS kills this many people, i think microsoft its microsoft for like 10 seconds into the commmercial
00:51.54DeformativeEh, I am kinda bummed about kde working on windows now.
00:51.56DeformativeAh well.
00:53.20timrswell, hopefully it will convert people to linux, but for me it might be the other way around -- i need windows for games and stuff, but i love kde -- that might piss me off now that theres no reason not to use windows
00:54.30Jucato*some* KDE *apps* *will be able to* run on windows... big difference from "kde working on windows"
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00:54.54DeformativeYeah, that's true.
00:54.56timrsi hope so, or if it works i might use windows, because everything just works on windows
00:55.19timrsbecause those mean hardware vendors that hate us
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00:57.05Jucatojust checking :)
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01:02.57holymolylol
01:02.59holymolywhat works on windows?
01:03.08holymolyi have NEVER had an a painless experience on windows
01:03.22holymolyi can't even plug anything in without having to download 50 meg installation driver sets
01:03.28timrswell, its worked for me, hardware typically -- but no customization
01:03.38holymolynever mind shit just stopping working fo rno particular reason
01:03.40timrsya, i hate rebooting it every week, literally
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01:19.36sharp15anyone know if clamassassin or Mail-ClamAV can be used with KMail?
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01:21.40sharp15i'm looking for something that works similar to klammail (Klamav's mail scanner) but doesn't require having another av scanner installed.
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01:22.00timrsclamav can be used with kmail i beleive
01:22.23timrsi don't think anything needs to be installed, but i don't really know
01:22.41viridariclamav can be used with kmail, yes
01:22.45sharp15i haven't been able to find info. explaining how.
01:22.47viridarisupport is built into kmail
01:22.54sharp15where?
01:22.59viridaribut you do need to have clamav installed
01:23.03sharp15it is.
01:23.05timrsyou just go into kmail and it'll search for scanners
01:23.13timrssomewhere in it, can't remember where
01:23.57viridariunder the Tools menu, Anti Virus Wizard
01:24.13viridarisimilarly there is an Anti Spam Wizard
01:24.55sharp15found it. thanks. i didn't notice that. sorry to bother you guys.
01:25.05viridarin/p
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01:37.46darkrift411anyone able to tell me where to download some good kde panel backrounds?
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01:37.52xororandis there a kde applet/application to control displays with DDC/CI?
01:37.59xororand(like ddccontrol for the command line)
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01:47.54viridaridarkrift411: http://www.kde-look.org/
01:51.08darkrift411ive looked there, but not sure what category to look under
01:52.27darkrift411i found them before, but cant find them now
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02:07.29darkrift411hrmmmm
02:08.28darkrift411oh well
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02:22.02mardi_soirhello
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02:22.21mardi_soiris it possible to lauch an application betwen 2 refresh of konqueror ?
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02:42.03davidoany kate users about, or some who can help with find/replace with grep?
02:42.14davidos/some/someone
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02:42.48davidoI want to search a range of xml files (in a single dir) for sentences that aren't separated by a space
02:43.40davidoso I'm looking for <lowercase>.<UPPERCASE> or something like that, and need to replace the found string with itself plus a space after the period
02:44.29rohanpmdavido: something like: sed -r -e 's|([a-z])\.([A-Z])|\1. \2|' -i *.xml
02:44.58mardi_soirrohanpm, :)
02:45.09mardi_soirnice answer
02:45.12rohanpmdavido: but you will have to check if it's ok manually, since the pattern could match things other than sentences not separated by a space
02:45.32mardi_soirhow about maybe my problem !
02:46.18mardi_soirkonqueror with nspluginviewer  need to killall nspluginviewer && killall npviewer.bin
02:46.25mardi_soirsometimes
02:46.39mardi_soirneed to do this before refresh sometimes
02:46.50mardi_soirfirefox does not need
02:47.07davidorohanpm, thanks. I'll give it a bash on one file and see what comes out. I tried putting together a regexp in Kate but I find it clunky
02:47.19davidoapart from that I'm not very good at regexp...
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02:57.26pcbsdis it possible to close all "windows" on the window list menu
02:57.43pcbsdi got too many windows open now..... lazy to close one by one.
02:58.56mardi_soirtry alt-f4 very quickly :)
02:59.13mardi_soiryou can group similar apps
02:59.24mardi_soirand close them in one action
02:59.49icwienerOr restart KDE with session stuff deactivated. ;)
02:59.50mardi_soirsee propriy of you task list
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03:01.53pcbsdok all done.
03:01.55pcbsdthanks.
03:03.06davidorohanpm, that sed command seems to stir up a bug/feature...
03:03.14davidorohanpm, sed: -e expression #1, char 26: invalid reference \2 on `s' command's RHS
03:03.32davidofound it on google but don't really know what to do about it  :(
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03:04.27rohanpmdavido: works fine here... can you double-check you typed it exactly as it is there?
03:04.59davidorohanpm, yeah, copied & pasted. Tried a few variations, even...  I'll persist for a while and see what else I can do
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03:06.30davidorohanpm, <sigh>  error 13: PBUAK
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03:07.53rohanpmdavido: no offense but that is kinda what I expected :-)
03:08.03davidorohanpm, yeah I know  :)
03:08.22davidoI looked and looked and... can't see what's right in front of me  :)
03:08.37davidothanks for your help
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03:47.51fotoflo_hey. im having trouble getting my soundsystem working
03:48.15fotoflo_it worked the first time i installed kde, but a few days have gone by now, and something isnt working
03:49.02fotoflo_err i just reset to defaults.
03:49.05fotoflo_everything works now
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03:55.54mardi_soirfotoflo_, well done !
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05:19.25DaSkreechIs there a KDE http://gtkol-ldap.sourceforge.net/?page_id=6 ?
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06:33.45JefisTell some site where i can fast upload kde4 mockup video? :-))
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06:39.24croephayou guys know of any issues with konqueror crashing when used with the kaffeine plugin?
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06:40.49Jefistake a look: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=59872
06:40.50Jefis:-))
06:40.53JefisDownload High-Quality
06:42.35benJImancroepha: kaffeine plugin is notoriously unstable.
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06:45.50croephabenJIman: and alternatice suggestions?
06:45.59croephaalternative*
06:46.02croepharather
06:46.08benJImanI usually play in stand alone kaffeine.
06:46.24croephahmm, yea, alot of websites wont do it though
06:46.26wolsnicroepha: kplayer and kmplayer are other apps that provide a video kpart
06:46.26benJImanThere are other plugins though, for kmplayer etc
06:46.33croephalike, if i paste the url
06:46.46croephacool
06:47.17croephabtw, so when is kde4 expected to come around?
06:47.46wolsnihttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
06:48.22Jucatocroepha: there's a kmplayer plugin that works the same as the kaffeine plugin.
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06:56.11croephais there a way that the touchpad click in the synaptics driver could be disabled when text is being entered into a text box?
06:56.39Torindoes anyone uses kopete meanwhile plugin ?
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06:57.51wolsnicroepha: get the ksynaptics configuration tool
06:58.07wolsniit has an option to disable the touchpad while typing
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07:21.42ma_bHello. Saving session remembers all applications next start, but *not* Mozilla Firefox? There is no process running after start.
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07:29.11Fusselwurmma_b: for me at least it works, firefox is started again (asking if i want to restore the closed tabs or such)
07:30.18ma_bFusselwurm: Yes when I start it manually. But the saved session doesn't start it.
07:30.58ma_bFusselwurm: btw, does firefox has an way for exit and saving the tab session? This only works if I quit KDE or kill firefox.
07:32.14FusselwurmI suppose  KDE does kill firefox to provoke this saving of the tab session
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07:42.46AyabaraI have dual head working in kde (kubuntu), but I have some problems with focus. When I move the mouse pointer over to the other monitor, I want to focus to move there as well. Also, when I exit some applications, the focus suddenly jumps to the other monitor...
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07:43.05Ayabaraanyone skilled at this area?
07:43.40wolsniAyabara: focus applies to windows, not monitors
07:44.20wolsnisounds like if you switch to the Unix-style "focus-follows-mouse" policy you'll be fine
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07:44.50Ayabarawolsni: ok. when I used gnome, the focus went to the last active app on the monitor I move the pointer to. any way to get this behavior in kde?
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08:11.05Vega_hi all
08:11.19Vega_i've a simple question about the behaviour of kde
08:11.55Vega_when i set a property for a window like "keep above" it is forgotten by the system as soon as i switch desktop and i come back
08:12.16Vega_is it a matter of configuration? I've been looking for a while but i haven't found anything so far in the control center
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08:12.48JucatoVega_: right-click on the window title bar -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings, for more options/control
08:13.23Vega_Jucato, f*** i jumped the advanced option :P
08:13.33Jucato:)
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08:15.53Vega_Jucato, it works..but where can i find it in the control center if i want to let this being the default behaviour?
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08:16.18JucatoKControl -> Desktop -> Window-Specific Settings
08:16.28Jucato1 rule is created per window or app
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08:20.24Vega_Jucato, nice..unfortunately it doesn't work for the only application where i really need :S
08:20.33JucatoO.o
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08:20.52Vega_murphy's law.... :)
08:21.10Vega_or java side-effects....
08:21.12Vega_:D
08:21.24Vega_which one is more dangerous? :)
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09:47.16aditsuhi, how can I increase the buffer length in konsole?
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09:47.35Chaniisn't there a setting for that>?
09:47.53Chaniaditsu: look around in the settings, I'm sure it's there somewhere
09:47.55aditsuhaven't found it..
09:48.04aditsuI'll look again
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09:48.39aditsuoh, there's something called "history", I wonder if it's that
09:48.51Chanicould be
09:49.04Chaniin kde4 the settings are a lot better organised
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09:49.46aditsuoh, kde4? :) is there any eta for that or still "when it's ready"?
09:50.17albertothemes in kde4 is a chaos
09:50.19albertoxD
09:50.23albertotoo many options
09:50.23aditsuah, wikipedia says 23 Oct
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09:50.40albertowhat icon theme do you use?
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09:51.41physosaditsu: despite that estimated date it is "when it is done" :9
09:51.43physos)
09:51.48physos:) now
09:51.49Chaniaditsu: octoberish
09:52.28ChaniI don't think what will be available then will be much past the alpha stage... although kde work does continue to surprise me
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09:52.45tuxedupI saw some of the screenshots for the new oxygen theme for kde, the button styles and windeco etc.  Which module are these in within svn?
09:52.47Chanihey, anyone remember how to turn on composite fun in kwin 4?
09:52.47albertois kde4 faster?
09:53.11Chanialberto: hard to tell right now :)
09:53.21albertoChani: ok
09:53.27Chaniit certainly crashes faster! :)
09:53.29albertoso then more features but not faster
09:53.34alberto:)
09:53.35albertook
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09:53.36albertoxD
09:53.50albertocan you tell me a minimal kde theme?
09:53.56Chania lot of stuf has been rewritten,. I think there's a fair change it might be faster
09:54.02Chani*chance
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09:58.13lxghi, is this the right place to ask questions about quanta?
09:59.05metresHi all I have a konversation question...: It is possible to save the channel list but how to restore it ?
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10:07.42albertoCan someone tell about a nice kde theme with same color in kwin and widgets?
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10:08.57Fusselwurmdunno... did you have a look at kde-look.org ?
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10:09.38albertoI did.
10:09.47albertoBut anyway to aply a kde theme is not easy.
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10:10.35Giganticorales... metallica plays la babma :o
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10:11.30Giganticalberto: actually you just download it and use tthe corresponding kcontrol module
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10:11.59Giganticalberto: but check your distro, some theme/engines are in the package sources
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10:18.24iapitusgood morning
10:19.32markeycalc slogan
10:19.40markeyooops
10:19.45markeywrong chan :)
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10:20.08iapitusi'm looking for a way of adding a "search bar" to knoq (like galeon) - is this possible?
10:20.29iapitusbah - konqueror even
10:21.26markeyknoq :)
10:22.14iapitusto clarify - is there a way to get the search-box (google, etc) to be separate boxes for the search-engines i use frequently?
10:22.46markeyI would say no
10:22.56markeybut that's more guess than knowledge
10:23.12markeyknoq configuration is like an adventure game
10:23.36iapitushuh - cool - the way it is works, just one of those "learn to work differently" kinda things - thanks
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10:24.51anyuhi all
10:24.56iapitushola
10:25.02markeyg'day
10:25.02anyui looking for that program that helps in typing
10:25.11iapitusanyu, like mavis beacon?
10:25.11anyui find that for my mother, and once i have found
10:25.16markeya typing tutor?
10:25.19anyuit's a kde app Ksomething
10:25.21anyuyes...
10:25.25markeycheck kde-apps.org :)
10:25.32anyuit's in repos
10:25.32markeyeverything is there
10:25.37anyubut i dunno it's name
10:25.43iapitusanyu, try ktouch
10:25.47anyutadaa!
10:25.49tuxedupanyu: tuxtype :)
10:25.51markeyindeed
10:25.53anyuthx, thats that.
10:25.57markeygoogle knew
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10:26.10iapitus(eix -S typing)
10:26.15iapitus(in gentoo)
10:26.55anyui think ktouch is what i find... i'm installing that...
10:27.17anyuanyways thank yours all
10:27.21markeyyw
10:27.23anyuor thanks for everybody..
10:27.26anyu:)
10:27.58iapitusanyu, there are a few other good ones, but that one is actually built into kde i believe
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10:28.20anyuin kubuntu looks it's not installed...
10:28.39markeysearch in adept
10:28.53markeyor just try "sudo apt-get install ktouch"
10:28.56iapituskubuntu is a relatively stripped down kde
10:29.10markeynot really
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10:29.14markeyusing it here
10:29.15iapitus(compared to some others at least - i think it's in the kde-education package in debian)
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10:30.27markeyaha, an amaroker
10:30.40markeyyo Simeon_H
10:30.43iapitusmarkey, i don't mean to imply it's stripped down to nothing, but it doesn't ship with *everything*, which i got a little used to with gentoo
10:31.31markeyiapitus: they don't ship kdebase as-is, that's correct. they tend to split things up
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10:31.49Simeon_Hmarkey you bastage!
10:31.54iapitusmarkey, yeah - i'm just talking stock-install - they have a *lot* of the packages available via apt
10:31.56markeyhah
10:32.01Simeon_Hrelease 1.4.6 already D:!
10:32.20markeydude it's ready, packaged and all
10:32.42markeyin few hours we're going to announce officially
10:32.52Simeon_Hoh all right then
10:32.53iapitusthat'll be handy
10:32.55Simeon_Hlinky!
10:34.09markeytoday's 1.4.6 release, and leinir's birthday
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10:39.14Giganticwhere kmail keep the certs ?
10:39.53markeyI'd guess somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
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10:39.58markeywhere all the data is stored
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10:41.23_syphilis_in 3.5.6, where is the option to disable the cursor startup notification (shows animated icon next to the cursor)?
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10:42.26Sho__syphilis_: KControl -> Appearance -> Launch Feedback
10:42.33Giganticnothing under kssl and I see nothing under kmail
10:42.46Giganticneither using the kcontrol module
10:43.10Giganticand kmail can't connect correctly 'caus the cert has changed and still try to use the old one
10:43.34_syphilis_Sho_: hmm, i don't see that here.  but i do remember that, now.  is it possible ubuntu removed the option for some reason?
10:44.07Sho__syphilis_: Yes, Kubuntu ships what amounts to a fork of KDE, unfortunately, including its own KControl alternative.
10:44.16Sho__syphilis_: "kcontrol" is installed, however, you can run it via "Run Command"
10:44.35_syphilis_ah!  this look more familiar :) thanks
10:44.41Gigantickcmshell --list
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10:45.09markeywell, I'm pretty happy with the System Settings thingie
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10:45.18markeyit's somewhat easier on the eye than kcontrol
10:45.43_syphilis_i don't mind the idea.  but not providing options that kcontrol does is annoying.  (who likes that animated icon, anyway?)
10:46.17GiganticThere's a better way...
10:46.47GiganticIam embeding kcontrol modules to kickoff :p
10:46.50markeySho_: how's your kde4 port of konvi progressing?
10:47.55Giganticcrap, I can't find it with kleopatra !
10:47.58Sho_markey: Not well. How's Amarok?
10:48.15markeystruggling as well
10:48.37markeyit's amounting to something like a 50% rewrite
10:48.44markeytons of work
10:49.24Sho_markey: Likely more than 50% for us because we're unhappy with the codebase we start with to begin with ;)
10:49.56markeyyes, same for us. basically everything that's important is being rewritten
10:50.08markeyso you could probably say more than 50%
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10:51.40ePaxif i have accidently removed some file with rm -rf is there a way to recover it?
10:52.01markeycurrently I'm still not fully enjoying hacking on trunk
10:52.16TorinePax: sometimes, on reiserfs and ext2 you can do it
10:52.16markeyhopefully this will come
10:52.24TorinePax: just google for it
10:52.29Sho_(w00t, NX 3.0 is out)
10:52.31ePaxok
10:52.55markeyTorin: until then access your filesystem as rarely as possible
10:52.58markeyideally, not at all
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10:53.04JucatoSho_: finally! :)
10:53.13markeyoops. I meant ePax
10:53.14markeysry
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10:54.34markeyoxygen style still feels soooo slow
10:54.44markeyI hope they can speed it up by a magnitude
10:54.49markeymakes everything feel laggy
10:55.05markeylooks sweet though
10:55.31Jucatosweet and laggy? a wonderful combination :)
10:56.43BetaTesterHi all. CAn somebody tell how do I remove the border from a specific window forever? I have to use always => right click on the border => Advanced => No Border
10:56.44markeyjust like molasses
10:56.54blinxhttp://dpaste.com/12675/
10:57.10blinxI set the QTDIR to /usr/share/qt3
10:57.15BetaTesterAny idea? How do I tell kwin to make this for me?
10:57.16blinxbefore it was qt4
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10:58.41piranesiwhat real dir does system:/media point to?
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10:59.38qupadapiranesi: it doesn't
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11:00.11markeyit sucks, really. I wouldn't use it
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11:04.56blinxno one an idea?
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11:06.01Torindoes anyone uses kopete with meanwhile plugin ?
11:06.21markeynot me
11:08.30Sho_markey: and the heavy tab bar isn't very nice, imho
11:09.28markeyyou mean the vertical sidebar thingie?
11:09.34markeyin amarok trunk?
11:09.41Sho_markey: no, the Oxygen style tab bars
11:09.41markeyit looks like ass
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11:10.13markeyalready on my TODO
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11:10.44Sho_I've talked to them about it, but they're in love with the glass effect
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11:10.57markeywho is?
11:11.05Sho_The Oxygen developers
11:11.11Sho_Again - I wasn't talking about Amarok :)
11:11.18markeyoh, I misunderstood
11:11.19markeyok
11:11.32markeyI do actually like the black glass look
11:11.34markeyI think
11:11.36Sho_With regards to Amarok 2.0, I'll wait and see ... I'm a "playlist as scratch pad for mixing and matching" guy so making it display only a couple titles and not having it front and center has me concerned a bit ;)
11:11.43markeybut you can only really tell after using it a while
11:12.40markeyoxygen must be careful not to fall into the Keramik trap
11:12.48blinxno one an idea with my kaffeine?
11:12.55markeytrying to be too shiny, but ending up clunky
11:13.11markeykaffeine.. blows
11:13.17markeywoops, I didn't say that
11:13.20blinxhttp://dpaste.com/12675/
11:13.23markeyuse Codeine :)
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11:13.41blinxno
11:13.43blinxkaffeine
11:14.39blinxsomething with the moc or qt path is wrong...
11:14.41blinxbut what?
11:14.47hybridstowhat would be the best way to have firefox come up on startup?
11:15.06markeyhybridsto: simply shut kde down with firefox running
11:15.07blinx/usr/bin/moc is a link to usr/bin/moc -> /etc/alternatives/moc*
11:15.09apokryphosput it in ~/.kde/Autostart, or handle it via session control
11:15.14markeysession management is gonna restore it
11:15.17markeyautomagically
11:15.18blinxlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2007-06-21 13:10 /etc/alternatives/moc -> /usr/bin/moc-qt3*
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11:16.28markeyif you're lucky, it'll even start on the correct desktop ;)
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11:17.13hybridstothanks guys
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11:17.36markeypiranesi: maybe /media
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11:19.06apokryphospiranesi: it's a kioslave, it doesn't point to a specific directory
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11:19.26apokryphoswhat you're looking for though, as markey said, might be in /media (generally used for mount points of removable devices)
11:19.52piranesiapokryphos I have a problem with system:/media it doesn't show an hd if it's not mounted at boot
11:20.34apokryphosit should...
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11:22.33piranesiapokryphos: if I put /dev/hda2       /mnt/hda2       ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=000 0 0 in fstab and restart the system I see it in system:/media (even if I unmount it and remount it)... without that line If I mount the hd from konsole, I can only see it in /mnt/hda2 and not in system:/media
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11:30.25DomainWwhat would cause KTorrent to keep crashing, SIG11 gets sent it says
11:31.35markeyversion?
11:31.50DomainW2.1.3
11:32.09markeyhmm
11:32.15markeyupgrading is always a good idea
11:32.29markeyI've got 2.1.4 here; it's working fine
11:32.31DomainWi use gentoo and the upgraded version isnt available in portage
11:32.37markeyok
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11:32.49markeythen maybe too aggressive "use" flags
11:32.56markeytry to be conservative
11:32.58markeyuse the defaults
11:33.12DomainWim wondering, could it be (becuase it happens only with multi file downloads) could there be two many file open handles ?
11:33.32markeykinda doubt that
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11:35.25DomainWwell if i have one torrent going its downloading 176 files the other one has about another 200 it crashes alot then but with the one not that often does it crash
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11:46.52Sho_DomainW: 2.1.4 was released to fix a crashing problem with another client sending malicious packets in swarms
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11:47.36Sho_DomainW: and 2.1.4 is available in Portage, of course
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11:47.47Sho_http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=ktorrent
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11:48.04DomainWemerge -p ktorrent 2.1.3
11:48.09DomainWis whats shown
11:48.46Sho_DomainW: see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3
11:48.54DomainWim not x86
11:49.09DomainWand yes i know about using unstable
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11:49.45Sho_DomainW: Doesn't matter. 2.1.4 is available for all architectures that 2.1.3 is available for, ~arch'ed, as per the table on the p.g.o link I gave you
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12:49.09endrahey, say I want the taskbar to act like it does on a mac, how could I do that?
12:49.25endraI saw it in a video, like.. you put your mouse over an icon, and it zooms in on it
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12:52.30physosendra: you have to get a taskbar replacement from kde-look.orgor kde-apps.org
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12:53.46Jucatoendra: try to research on ksmoothdock, kooldock (both 3rd-party KDE apps) and kiba-dock (a GTK/GNOME app)
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12:55.14physosJucato: Thanks, I was looking up the names since I could not remember them :)
12:55.29Jucato:)
12:56.57endrathank you, both
12:57.12endrahave any of you used ksmoothdock or kooldock?
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14:13.47piranesisystem:/media doesnt' show the hd I just mounted from konsole, it shows only if the hd is mounted in fstab, I don't know what to do
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14:19.27AnMasterpiranesi, hm I don't use it as for me it is mostly useless
14:19.40AnMasterI find that it has problems correctly showing lvm2 volumes
14:20.00AnMasterbrb, phone
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14:20.19piranesiAnMaster, I'm mounting a normal vfat device
14:20.56AnMasterwell as I said I avoid using the feature due to it simply fails when it comes to LVM2 volumes
14:20.58mardi_soirpiranesi, does hald and dbus  launched  ?
14:20.58AnMasterso I got no idea
14:21.15AnMasterI mean it shows /usr as unmounted, /usr is on lvm2
14:21.25AnMasterand mounted (kde is /usr/kde...)
14:21.37piranesimardi_soir yes they are lauched
14:21.50AnMasterany idea why I get my problem with it btw?
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14:22.47AnMasterbbl telephone
14:23.34piranesithe strange thing is that if a put a line in fstab and I reboot the system, the same hd appear in system:/media (even if I unmount it and remount it) while if I cut that line in fstab, when I mount the hd I can only see it in the mount point but not in system:/media
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14:26.34_syphilis_when IMAP login fails in KDE, how do i make it stop prompting for a password and trying to login, so i can change the account settings?  ("Cancel" on the password dialog doesn't work, it just tries again)
14:26.40unityhey, while i am encoding something with mencoder in my homedir, gam_server is using up like 60% of the processor, how can i tell it to stop?
14:26.41_syphilis_s/in KDE/in Kmail/
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14:35.29AnMasterhm in system:/media any device-mapper volumes are always shown as unmounted, like lvm2 volumes, I *KNOW* my /usr is mounted (it is on lvm2) yet it is shown as unmounted
14:35.30AnMasterwhy?
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14:45.51aminehey
14:45.55aminehow can i get rid of the taskbar?
14:45.58piranesiAnMaster, may be because you are seeing system:/media with an user that haven't mounted the drive
14:46.46piranesii.e. when I mount a floppy with root, and then open system:/media I see it unmounted
14:47.18AnMasterpiranesi, hm, I do see /dev/sda3 as mounted
14:47.20AnMasterthat is /
14:47.43AnMasterbut yet /dev/vg/usr that is mounted on /usr I see unmounted
14:47.50AnMasterboth were mounted during boot
14:47.58AnMasterpiranesi, that makes no sense to me
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14:48.13piranesioh, yes, you're right
14:48.29piranesimaybe they are bugs of kde
14:48.43AnMasteryes it doesn't handle device mapper stuff it seems
14:49.26AnMasteranyway it is not hard to find as a normal user
14:49.31AnMasterafaik cat /proc/mounts
14:49.33piranesiwhich kde version do you have?
14:49.33AnMastershould show that
14:49.43AnMaster3.5.5
14:49.49AnMastergentoo, x86_64
14:49.50piranesime too
14:50.02piranesigentoo i386
14:50.16piranesiI'm sure that with kubuntu this will not happen
14:50.23AnMasteroh?
14:50.41AnMastercat /proc/mounts does work as normal user
14:50.48AnMasteras long as you don't use some hardened stuff
14:50.56AnMasterso it should be simple to see what is mounted
14:51.10piranesiI talked with a kubuntu user and he told me that he had not my problem
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14:53.39amineis it even possible to get rid of the original panel.. im using ksmoothdock and I do not want it anymore
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14:55.01AnMasteramine, kicker you mean?
14:55.05Jucatoamine: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration
14:55.15amineAnMaster: the thing that has the start menu, etc.
14:55.21AnMasterkicker yes
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14:55.47Jucatoamine: look at the Disable Kicker entry
14:56.21amineactually, i just realized that ksmoothdock does not have my current running icons
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14:57.39markeyyo guys, amarok 1.4.6 just released :)
14:57.45markeycould you all do us a favor
14:57.50markeyand digg our story?
14:57.52markeyhttp://digg.com/software/Amarok_1_4_6_released_with_LOTS_of_improvements
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15:00.17SimAtWorkmorning al
15:00.27SimAtWorkmarkey: digging now
15:00.41SimAtWorkwell
15:00.46SimAtWorkreading the article first
15:02.18markeythanks mate
15:02.38SimAtWorklooks good
15:02.43SimAtWorkbut it looks like someone is mad at you
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15:06.07markeyheh, that's just a known troll
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15:09.08amineJucato: where can I see this disable kicker entry.. I Can't find it
15:09.21Jucatoamine:  in the link I gave above
15:09.33amineOh, I did not see that.
15:09.33amineThank you
15:09.54SimAtWorkmarkey: you should reddit it also
15:10.10SimAtWorkmarkey: but shouldn't thepage have some screen shots too?
15:10.39markeywell it looks the same as the last version
15:10.45markeyjust with better icons
15:10.46amineWould you know how to add the 'running icons' part of kicker in ksmoothdock
15:10.52SimAtWorknot everyone who reads that is going to be familiar with amarok
15:10.54amine.. so i can right click -> exit, etc
15:11.04SimAtWorkwell, hopefully not.
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15:13.22blinxhttp://dpaste.com/12682/ <- anyone an idea?
15:13.53blinxhttp://dpaste.com/12683/ <- the file exists
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15:16.29aminerestarting x, brb
15:16.49PhinnFortblinx: regenerated your ld.cache.thingy?
15:16.52PhinnFortor something
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15:19.01blinxPhinnFort: how I should do that?
15:19.19PhinnFortblinx: just noticed portage did it everytime after an emerge on gentoo
15:19.32blinxhmm
15:19.38blinxldconfig?
15:19.40PhinnFortpeeked in the cache file, and it contained the paths to all libs
15:19.42PhinnForttry
15:19.49blinxno effect
15:19.57blinxbut wait, I will make clean it
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15:20.42amineback
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15:20.47aminehow would i go about.. enabling kicker again
15:21.38SimAtWorkenabling?
15:21.46SimAtWorkalt-f2, kicker, enter
15:21.49SimAtWorkif you've killed it that is.
15:21.58blinxamine: launch it!
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15:22.48amine.. i disabled it
15:23.36aminekwriteconfig --file ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop --group "Desktop Entry" --key Hidden true
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15:23.54amineI tried hidden false, but it doesn't work
15:24.18blinxdid you try to open the file with an editor?
15:25.16amineit does not exist
15:25.29blinxthen create it
15:25.39wolsniamine: you said you're having problems with kicker?
15:26.01aminewolsni: i disabled it, and i can't re-enable it to open on startup
15:26.20wolsnihow did you disable it?
15:26.28aminekwriteconfig --file ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop --group "Desktop Entry" --key Hidden true
15:27.09aminehttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration
15:27.31PhinnFortanyone want to help debug something, as I'm not very proficient with c++?: http://rafb.net/p/3lmXOx56.html
15:27.40PhinnFortthe source file in question: http://rafb.net/p/oSQefl22.html
15:27.45wolsniamine: and you tried deleting that .desktop file?
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15:28.18aminenope.
15:28.22amineIt does not exist
15:29.13SecutorIs there documentation on how to migrate kmail, kontact, etc. from one computer to another?
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15:29.24PhinnFortSecutor: copy your home folder?
15:29.31wolsnithen probably your kicker just happened to crash and that got saved in your session
15:29.31wolsniif you run kicker manually does it show up all right?
15:29.40amineyes sir
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15:30.04wolsniamine: i imagine you just need to save your session while kicker is running
15:30.14amineI will try that
15:30.15SecutorPhinnFort: maybe just the .kde/share/apps directories?
15:30.32amineIs there a way I can preserve this program (ksirc) while I restart?
15:30.33wolsniSecutor: you probably want the .kde/share/config files as well
15:30.43Secutork, thanks.
15:30.47wolsniamine: save that as part of your session as well
15:30.55aminehow?
15:31.03amine.. just leave it open?
15:31.13amineI was referring to the connection itself
15:31.15wolsnieverything that's running when you save your session will be a part of it
15:31.31wolsniah, well, that I don't think you can do, sorry
15:31.38amineit's all good.
15:31.43aminethank you for your help :)
15:31.52wolsnigood luck
15:31.57amineblinx: you too
15:32.03amineand SimAtWork
15:32.15principe-ante#gnome
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15:34.57aminewolsni: it did not work :(
15:35.16aminekicker was off when I logged in (I did a full logout)
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15:37.59wolsniamine: well, I suppose you could just do a "ln -s $(which kicker) ~/.kde/Autostart"
15:38.53aminesuppose so, thank you
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15:40.17amineoff i go, thanks again
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15:41.31metbsdmy kde has no sound
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15:59.53Gigantic:) http://youtube.com/watch?v=BPDhLcqJrWM
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16:01.35DeformativeHmm, kaffeine is yucky...
16:01.46DeformativeWhen it is full screen I cannot get it back to windowed mode.
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16:02.39metbsdhelp, i need to reset /tmp/.ICE-unix?
16:02.47metbsdis there quick fix to this
16:02.58Giganticrm ? :)
16:03.11DeformativeOh, double click.
16:03.13DeformativeNever min.d
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16:03.32GiganticCtrl+F too
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16:12.12xsachahey anyone here familar with kaffeine and DVB
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16:13.11xsachawhen i start kaffeine, it goes to a list of things to do: play a CD, DVD, watch digital TV and so on -- was wondering if there was a way to automatically select digital tv like there is for dvd and cd
16:13.43metbsdhow to start kaffeine?
16:13.56Giganticxsacha: you mean add the button to the main context?
16:14.00metbsdi don't have kaffeine
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16:14.09lquessenberryanyone know how to install Java Runtime Environment?
16:14.17SimAtWorkanyone know if kde works with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexentaOS
16:14.18SimAtWork?
16:14.30Giganticlquessenberry: depends on the distro
16:14.36mardi_soirlquessenberry, it is not a kde problem :)
16:14.43Giganticmetbsd: duh?
16:14.55metbsdi need to install it
16:15.07lquessenberrysorry
16:15.19xsachaGigantic: i mean start kaffeine with tv playing like "kaffeine DVD" will start kaffeine playing the DVD
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16:15.35mardi_soirlquessenberry, no offense .. look at your package manager
16:15.36GiganticSimAtWork: KDE works in Solaris, so it has to, yes
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16:16.25metbsdi'm running kde3.5.7 in netbsd
16:16.34metbsdbut i have some problem
16:16.34TorinSimAtWork: it works
16:16.41TorinSimAtWork: i used it long time ago
16:16.42metbsdi'm not sure if sound works
16:16.47lquessenberryi am using sabayon and it's not on the list at kuroo
16:17.10Giganticxsacha: no that I know but you can do with Xine ;)
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16:17.59mardi_soirlquessenberry, in a terminal as root do
16:18.04mardi_soiremerge -av virtual/jre
16:18.06lquessenberryok
16:18.10mardi_soiror find jre in kurro
16:18.18lquessenberrytried in kuroo
16:18.21lquessenberryno luck
16:18.26lquessenberrybut i will emerge
16:18.42mardi_soirlquessenberry, maybe you ll need to do emerge --sync before what i told you
16:19.52lquessenberrythanks gota run
16:20.21mardi_soirlquessenberry, if you provide for  applet suppor do USE="nsplugin" emerge -av virtual/jre
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16:20.32mardi_soiror USE="nsplugin" emerge -av virtual/jre   dev-java/sun-jre-bin
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16:21.32mardi_soirlquessenberry, /j #sabayon
16:21.34mardi_soir:)
16:21.50piranesiwhat a weird thing, I'm entering in a dir and trying to modify files owned by root and if I do it entering from system/:media I can do it!
16:22.55metbsdi have no sound, help
16:23.12xsachaGigantic: problem with xine is it says it cant find any channels and i dont know where to set up the channels
16:23.54xsachachannels.conf
16:24.25Giganticxsacha: man has to tell... dvd://40 --->channel 40
16:24.40Giganticxsacha: or something alike...
16:24.45xsachabut to set up the channels?
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16:27.16xsachadvb:// ?
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16:37.51CPrgmSwR2I started writing up specifications for my kollagame
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16:41.57Giganticxsacha: ah, there's klear too
16:42.00metbsdwhy kde noatun does not work, but xmms work
16:42.35Giganticxsacha: specifical for dvb  (P.D.: Yes:dvb://)
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16:44.26xsacha:( dvb:// doesnt work here.. i have a /dev/dvb but it doesnt seem to like playing that.. only way i can get it to play is clicking on "Digital TV"
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16:47.14metbsdcan soneone tell me?
16:47.14redrodIf anyone has Krita installed.. Can you please check this image? http://r0k.us/graphics/images/64kSnake.png It's 16-bit grayscale, and I think that my Photoshop and GIMP do not process it correctly.
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16:51.02metbsdunix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-397a-467b1cba)
16:51.12metbsdi have this error when i play music with juk
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16:52.05metbsdcan someone at least give me some help
16:53.08metbsdfuck you people
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16:53.37markeywtf?
16:53.53metbsdunix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-397a-467b1cba)
16:53.58metbsdwhat the fuck is this
16:54.09markeyhmm..
16:54.16markeydefinitely not normal
16:54.32markeycould be a permission problem
16:54.40markeycheck the folder permissions
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16:54.50metbsdwhat permission should it be
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16:55.04markeywritable for sure
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16:57.12piranesiI need someone who try to: 1) open konsole, 2)gain root privileges (i.e. with su)  2)create the file  /home/userrname/text.txt 3)write something 4)try to modify and save that file with the normal user from konqueror with kate 5) try to modify and save the file from system:/media with kate, I can do it like 5) but not like 4)
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16:59.02mardi_soirpiranesi, media maybe consider system:/media as removable device
16:59.19mardi_soirso overide chmod
16:59.28metbsdunix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/ksocket-necro/-5aca-467b1d1e
16:59.34mardi_soirmaybe cause group plugdev or haldeamon
16:59.38metbsdand it belong to user:wheel
16:59.46mardi_soir(did not tryed i suppose )
16:59.58piranesimardi_soir, maybe you're right
17:00.00metbsdsrwxr-xr-x
17:01.24principe-antehi
17:01.37mardi_soirpiranesi, my linux kde computer is for my own usage so never i noticed the problem ;(
17:01.37metbsdwhat should i do to it?
17:01.49principe-anteplease help me with a question
17:01.56metbsdhelp me with an answer
17:01.57principe-antehow use perl?
17:02.07principe-antejajaja
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17:02.09markeyheh
17:02.15Giganticprincipe-ante: duuh?
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17:02.19markeyyou want to learn perl?
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17:02.31mardi_soirmetbsd, the whole directory or just the file
17:02.36principe-antewho speak in spanish?
17:02.45markeyhola
17:02.49principe-anteI`m from Chile
17:02.55mardi_soirif the directory is not acccessible .. no way against the file permissions
17:02.55metbsdi'm from china
17:02.58mardi_soiri guess
17:03.00metbsdwho speak chinese
17:03.06metbsdforget it
17:03.11jhutchins_ltIs there a way to globally set the priority of applications?  For instance, make mplayer the first priority for all mime types it supports?
17:03.20mardi_soirjhutchins_lt, yeah
17:03.25metbsdit just won't connect to  /tmp/ksocket-necro
17:03.32mardi_soirright click on the file type you have
17:03.45mardi_soirand then look a button to set what is you prefered application
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17:03.59jhutchins_ltHrm.  I don't always get that button...
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17:04.08mardi_soirright click > proprety
17:04.24Giganticprincipe-ante: there's a kcontrol module too btw
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17:07.14mardi_soirjhutchins_lt, look at yuo private message
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17:08.35jhutchins_ltmardi_soir: It looks like you have to do it with a local file, but it does appear to have changed the priority for several file types at once - thanks, got what I wanted!
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17:32.43SimAtWorkman koffice takes a while to compile!
17:32.46SimAtWorki had forgotton
17:32.51SimAtWorki shoulda used a binary instead!
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17:46.29Skrot-Sho_: ping?
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17:59.42basselitoHey guys... does anybody sync a palm in linux/kde/kpilot?
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18:00.47basselitonot a very active channel! =/
18:01.09PhilRodit'll warm up - give it time
18:01.31basselitoHehe, how much time? /me is in a constant hurry! :D
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18:02.41Sho_Skrot-: semi-pong
18:02.55Giganticbasselito: patience is a virtue
18:03.14Giganticbasselito: You need an app like kpilot
18:03.23basselitoGigantic: yes, if you get paid... ;)
18:03.34Giganticbasselito: but before, the computer has to recognize the palm
18:03.58basselitoGigantic: Yep, obex is working both ways, but I can't hotsync! :'(
18:04.02Gigantico.O
18:04.06Skrot-Sho_: Remember I was in here last night whining about kwin composition? Well, kwin --replace says that composition was not avalible duing compile, but cmakekde told me that composition was avalible as an optional feature. Did I need some extra flag to enable it?
18:04.16Giganticah, use kitchensync...?
18:04.53Skrot-available*
18:04.59Giganticbasselito: yep, didn't try myself but take a look to kitchensysn, maybe it help
18:05.56basselitogigantic: thanks for tip! :)
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18:07.24Sho_Skrot-: if the necessary libs aren't available it would output 'XRender and XComposite extensions are required for KWin compositing support', otherwise it should work
18:08.30Skrot-Sho_: Okay, I remember cmakekde saying that composition was available as an optional feature, so I guess that means it was installed. Any idea why "kwin --replace" would say that composition was not available during compile then?
18:11.22Sho_Skrot-: Not from the top of my head, sorry
18:11.28Skrot-okay :)
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18:13.22Sho_Skrot-: What distro are you on, btw?
18:13.28Skrot-Kubuntu Feisty
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18:13.41Sho_ok, never built it on that one, sorry
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18:14.16Skrot-No problem. Is setting GLMode mandatory by the way?
18:14.55Sho_Skrot-: It should try TFP first, then fall back to SHM if the extension is unavailable, if GLMode isn't set
18:14.57Skrot-It's set to TFP right now, with nvidia 9631-drivers
18:15.07Sho_yes, that should work
18:15.43Skrot-Do you know if there's some sort of log, other than starting kwin from a shell?
18:15.51Sho_Try manually setting SHM for kicks, though, as it should work nearly everywhere
18:16.35Sho_Other than ~/.xession-errors ... nope
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18:17.39Skrot-Yay, there's "kwin: Compositing was not available at compile time" again
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18:18.49Sho_you're saying compiz works on the same system, though?
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18:18.57Skrot-indeed
18:19.06neopcOI
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18:19.14Sho_Skrot-: self-compiled or ubuntu's package?
18:19.28Skrot-self-compiled from SVN as of some time yesterday
18:19.41Sho_then libxcomposite-dev and x11proto-composite-dev should be there ..
18:19.50DANYOIE
18:20.24Skrot-Sho_: They're both installed
18:20.32Sho_ok
18:20.51Sho_odd *scratches head* :)
18:21.07Skrot-Let me make clean and get output from cmakekde again
18:21.35Sho_Perhaps the CMake logic to find the libs is failing for some reason, but I imagine the Ubuntuers would have discovered that by now
18:22.04Skrot-Says "The following list of OPTIONAL packages where located on your system. \n You will have all the following features available from this software \n + Compisting support
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18:24.03whirma friend is asking me how to disable de popup menu when he drags files to konqueror (move, copy, link, cancel)
18:24.18whirmsomeone knows if this can be disabled?
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18:25.47litbcompiz is not stable
18:25.56litbit doesn't show content of java windows
18:26.08litbdoes not maximize the virtualbox window
18:26.26litbkwin has no such problems
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19:22.57teknopaganAfternoon, folks
19:23.01teknopaganeasy question for you
19:23.44teknopaganWhat files do I need to copy from one home folder to another to cover all settings
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19:24.37teknopaganmore specifically, which files/folders would I copy from user A's home to user B's home to make them look and function identically?
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19:25.51teknopaganAnyone here?
19:26.50strawteknopagan: create a 'dummy' user, configure and tweak, then copy whatever's there
19:27.10teknopaganHmm - there's a thought
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19:27.53teknopaganOf course, this is a one-off kinda thing - might as well just fully reconfigure my new account in that case
19:28.03strawoh, ok :)
19:28.21strawis it just for kde?
19:28.29teknopaganyup
19:29.23strawwell, you could copy ~/.kde and chown everything to the new user. but that'd mean mails and other stuff you might not want copied
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19:30.48teknopaganThat's the thing - I did that, but the settings didn't all take
19:31.16teknopaganfor example, the color scheme is mostly right, but the window decorations aren't
19:32.01nik7if you use custom win decos (which you installed extra), then they aren't in .kde
19:32.05Przemcio78i've downloaded kde4 livecd but it's even unstable to test :/
19:32.34teknopaganAhhh...might have been custom.
19:32.40teknopaganThat would 'splain it.
19:33.02teknopaganOf course, there's also simple things like # of desktops and names thereof
19:33.15teknopagansimple to fix, I know, but why didn't that copy?
19:33.15Przemcio78i think it's highly doubtful we'll have kde4 this year, but i'd rather wait than use something buggy and crashing
19:36.00teknopaganOoh - just had athought - brb
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19:47.07Lacrymologyhi
19:47.19Lacrymologydo be nice and help me pimp up my desktop?
19:48.05wolsniLacrymology: kde-look.org should meet all your pimping needs
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19:49.13LacrymologyI wants decoration-less and transparent consoles to begin with... which one do you recommend? I used to use aterm but that was with fluxbox, and I get lost with kde.. it's too big
19:49.16Lacrymologywolsni: let's see
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19:50.06sabayonlive-1533www.kde-look.org ; www.kbfx.org
19:50.39SimAtWorkPrzemcio78: i'm not doubtful only because i saw how quickly koffice came about
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19:52.17wolsni"decoration-less" ?
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19:52.33sharp15does kscreensaver require an executable stack? (is SSP going to make it crash all of the time?)
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19:52.52sharp15wolsni: you are still on line.
19:52.58wolsnihooray
19:53.05litbLacrymology: try yakuake
19:53.17wolsnikonversation says my lag is 99s :(
19:53.29litbmy lag is 235ms
19:53.33wolsninow it's somthing reasonable, hooray
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19:53.54sharp15wolsni: if it keeps groing the server's probably approaching a netsplit again.
19:54.31wolsnino, i think it's more to do with my lousy wireless reception
19:54.50wolsnii moved to a different room and now it's 148ms
19:55.02sharp15oh. i meant jumping from ~2 to ~200 in 5 seconds.
19:55.34sharp15doesn't matter i'm probably wrong.
19:55.40wolsniyou can't jump from 2 to 200 in 5 seconds
19:55.49wolsniit would take, you know, 198 seconds
19:55.57sharp15then my memory is broke.
19:56.05sharp15(mind not RAM)
19:56.30wolsniunless i'm mistaken on what this "lag" thing is
19:56.54sharp15forget i said it.  i'm probably spewing junk info again.
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20:40.06Lacrymologysomeone here told me to use yakuake, and it's all very nice except for the horrible bar on the bottom, and that there seems to be no way of getting rid of it
20:41.10Sho_Lacrymology: What exactly qualifies it as "horrible"?
20:41.18LacrymologySho_: everything
20:41.23LacrymologySho_: I want detailless
20:41.37Lacrymologyjust a slightly darker pseudotransparent box with text in it
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20:42.07Sho_Lacrymology: Well, the app is skinnable
20:42.14wolsniLacrymology: just use konsole and disable the window border
20:42.37Sho_Lacrymology: http://www.kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/29153-2.jpg is a popular alternative skin, for example ... there are some others on kde-look.org
20:42.40Lacrymologywolsni: how do I get that to be the default?
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20:43.03Sho_Lacrymology: Via "Special Application Settings" in the window menu -> Advanced
20:43.12LacrymologyI think I'm going back to aterm, it has easy command line options
20:43.13Lacrymologylet me see
20:44.39wolsniLacrymology: for the hidden tab bar and menu in konsole, set everything how you want, then right click and choose Settings->"Save as default"
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20:46.50Lacrymologywolsni: getting there. Do you know what the border around the konsole is called?
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20:47.43wolsniLacrymology: ? you mean the window decoration?
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20:48.35Lacrymologywolsni: I don't think so. Now I have no menu bar, and no border, but there's still a kind of outline
20:49.10wolsnioh that
20:49.56wolsniafaik there's no way to get rid of that, but it doesn't bug me so I haven't looked too hard
20:50.34wolsniyou could look for a widget style that minimizes that border
20:50.48Lacrymologygrr
20:50.57Lacrymologyis it kde.. let's check what happens with aterm
20:51.20wolsniyes, that border is a feature of konsole
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20:55.16gxmzackhow do i change icon themes
20:55.24gxmzacklike when im browing folders in konqueror
20:55.56gxmzackim using slack11, with fluxbox, but i use some kde apps
20:56.03wolsnigxmzack: the icon theme chooser in kcontrol
20:56.19wolsni"kcmshell icons" to jump straight to it
20:56.39gxmzackwolsni: thanks :)
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21:10.56PhinnFortI know, I just hoped...
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21:12.04blubbihi guys, is there an straight forward method of sorting the KDE-Startmenu alphabetical?
21:12.47pinotreethe kmenu is automatically sorted alphabetically, already
21:12.55mishehuhmm...  got kdevelop 3.4.1 w/kde 3.5.7...   am having problems with syntax guessing...  keeps saying "file parsed, but code-model not updated due to errors".  is there a configuration I need to set or a manual way to get it to rebuild the code-model?
21:13.01blubbipinotree: not in my case
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21:14.55blubbipinotree: its wired sorted..
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21:17.21blubbipinotree: http://olausson.name/temp/kdemenu.png
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21:17.44blubbipinotree: maybe this is sorted and you can explain the sort criteria
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21:18.00PupenoAfter moving my mails to Evolution and back to Kontact I have a lot of duplicated emails. Kontact's remove duplicated email worked for lots of them, but there are a lot with very small differences... like two characters in X-Status. Any ideas how to clean that up?
21:18.19pinotreeblubbi: ah, no idea either ( i thought you were talking about the top-level menu)
21:19.01blubbipinotree: no sry, I should be more precise
21:19.21PhinnFortblubbi: do you have a lot of .desktop files in your home folder?
21:19.34blubbiPhinnFort: in ~
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21:20.20PhinnFortblubbi: more like ~/.local
21:20.49blubbiPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/iwMS6730.html
21:21.42PhinnFortblubbi: tror KDE først tar de globale .desktop filene, og så de lokale
21:21.47PhinnFortderfor blir det ikke alfabetisk
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21:21.52pinotreeaehm
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21:22.14PhinnFortpinotree: norwegian no go?
21:22.19PhinnFort:P
21:22.25blubbiPhinnFort: mmmh, okay
21:22.45PhinnFortblubbi: try either deleting those .desktop files or moving them to wherever they're stored globally
21:23.04blubbiPhinnFort: du kann prata svenskt/dansk ;-)
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21:23.15blubbiPhinnFort: hur gissade du?
21:23.26PhinnFort./.gnome/apps/TransGaming/Programs/Norstedts ordb?cker/Norstedts svensk-tysk ordbok.desktop
21:23.32PhinnFort:P
21:23.34blubbihrrhrr
21:24.32blubbiokay, but international chan.. so lets talk english ;-)
21:24.38sharp15is there a way to turn off kscreensaver from the command line or through a text config file?
21:24.48PhinnFort;)
21:25.56blubbiPhinnFort: so moving all the desktopfiles to the global folder... thats not a nice sollution
21:26.08blubbiPhinnFort: dirty workaround
21:26.33blubbicause not every user wants to have all that progs inside his tree
21:27.30blubbiah, I can life with it ;-)
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21:28.26PhinnFortblubbi: but make sure you note which files you move
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21:28.31PhinnFortI'm not sure it's the right solution
21:28.34PhinnFort:P
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21:29.35netfrikOn Fedora 7, I made thunderbird my default email client in KDE CC. But when I use firefox and mailto link, the evolutions is starting up?
21:30.08sharp15better question than my previous, does passing the following "dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface enable 0" disable the screensaver?
21:30.24netfrik*evolution
21:30.54wolsninetfrik: firefox is not a KDE app so it doesn't follow the KDE global settings
21:30.55sharp15netfrik: you'd need to edit prefs.js or user.js but i haven't used TB in a while so i don't remember the line.
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21:31.50netfriksharp15: I'll try that, thanks!
21:31.52blubbiPhinnFort: thanks
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21:34.57sharp15hopefully my question will be answered that quickly, but i doubt it.
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21:38.28cassiopeaHey. Are there some other bluetooth services I can activate through kde, for instance, my cellphone supports a bluetooth av headset, is there a way to have that play through the computer?
21:39.05PhinnFortcassiopea: I saw that in the last issue of Linux Magazine
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21:41.49PhilRodsharp15: probably. Try it :-)
21:43.24wolsniPhilRod: he already asked his question
21:43.42wolsniand answered it too, i think
21:44.14sharp15PhilRod: problem is I can't tell.  if i try to open the screensaver portion of the control center the control center crashes, or through "Configure Desktop" context menu entry kdesktop crashes.
21:44.19PhilRodwolsni: yeah, that was my answer to his second question
21:44.30sharp15PhilRod: related to SSP being enabled.
21:45.24PhilRodwhat's ssp?
21:45.55sharp15stack smashing protection, a.k.a. PAX, or in the windows world DEP and NX-Bit.
21:46.27sharp15those last two are actually hardware names for the same thing. sorry.
21:46.46PhilRodwell, actually, I vaguely know what you mean
21:46.59PhilRodanyway, in answer to your first question:
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21:48.01PhilRodkwriteconfig --file kdesktoprc --group ScreenSaver --key Enabled --type bool false
21:48.10PhilRodor something very similar to that
21:48.21PhilRodyou might also need to restart kdesktop to get it to pick up the change
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21:48.50MinceRis there a nice way to select a new resolution but not via xrandr so that the virtual screen resolution remains?
21:49.29MinceRctrl+alt+keypad+/- seem to be inaccessible as i'm on a notebook
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21:49.31PhinnFortMinceR: ctrl+alt++?
21:49.34PhinnFortah
21:49.39MinceRand numlock doesn't seem to do the thing either
21:49.53MinceRnor fn
21:50.43PhinnForthow about a sledge?
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21:51.00sharp15PhilRod: it worked thanks for your help.
21:51.13PhilRodyw :-)
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21:52.05MinceRi'll try the xvidtune command line arguments
21:52.29MinceRmaybe it doesn't switch because i forgot to add modes :)
21:52.38sharp15my appologies for being an insistent pain.  i wasn't expecting to get any assistance without forcing the issue. i'll work on avoiding that next time.
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22:02.55MinceRyeah, that was the problem, it works nicely now
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22:04.04SimAtWorki have festival installed
22:04.16SimAtWorkis there any way to get konqueror to read a document to me?
22:04.25SimAtWorklike highlight, right click, read
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22:19.54Sho_Skrot-: cool
22:20.04SimAtWorkRawSewage: how?
22:20.20RawSewageFestival reads docs?
22:20.37RawSewageright click a txt file for example
22:20.44RawSewageclick Properties
22:20.59RawSewageclick the Wrench
22:21.03SimAtWorkRawSewage: i was hoping to be able to play just a part of a text file
22:21.12RawSewageoh
22:21.14SimAtWorkso i could be at a website.. highlight, right click, and play
22:21.16RawSewageI see
22:21.29RawSewagemaybe Klipper can do it
22:21.49RawSewageyou use Klipper , right
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22:25.01SimAtWorki guess so :)
22:25.05SimAtWorknever actually used it
22:25.09SimAtWorkbut yes it's open and running
22:25.23RawSewageI cant live without Klipper
22:25.38RawSewageIm almost positive Klipper will do what you want though
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22:26.13SimAtWorkhrm
22:26.15SimAtWorkplaying with it now
22:26.20SimAtWorkthea ctions don't seem to do it though
22:26.49RawSewagethe app name is festival, right
22:27.02RawSewageAdd action...
22:27.23RawSewageI dont know
22:27.29RawSewagesorry
22:27.52SimAtWorkit's ok
22:27.55SimAtWorki don't know either :)
22:28.13RawSewagewhat a dead channel for 300+ users
22:28.22SimAtWorkit's not a good time of day
22:28.25RawSewageoh
22:28.41RawSewageI guess most people are in Germany
22:28.48SimAtWorkdunno about that
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22:33.09RawSewageI guess you would delete all existing actions in Klipper
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22:35.57RawSewagedont delete all existing
22:36.08RawSewageadd  a new action.  just enter   ^
22:36.21RawSewagethen right click your new action, and add  festival %s
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