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| 00:12.00 | TheBlunderbuss | root__: you shouldn't be here as root |
| 00:12.16 | Jejem | loll |
| 00:12.20 | Jejem | he's scared. |
| 00:12.22 | TheBlunderbuss | guy was asking for it |
| 00:12.32 | Jejem | or she, maybe~ |
| 00:12.39 | TheBlunderbuss | Hope springs eternal |
| 00:13.11 | TheBlunderbuss | Right now, discs are mounted as /media/$volumename. How can I change it so that it mounts to /media/hdc every time? |
| 00:14.10 | Jejem | hum, fstab? |
| 00:14.49 | TheBlunderbuss | not sure. I think hal or udev has its hooks into the drives |
| 00:15.06 | Jejem | possible~ |
| 00:15.09 | Jejem | i don't have this problem |
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| 00:24.46 | TheBlunderbuss | oh ya that's it. |
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| 00:30.10 | AmyRose | yay, I found out Photobucket works in Konq if I add ?noscript=true to my album URL |
| 00:32.46 | thingy | You said that before...and then took it back. Your credibility is highly suspect. |
| 00:33.12 | AmyRose | thingy: I was trying different things |
| 00:33.27 | AmyRose | It worked for small images before but not ones above a certain size |
| 00:33.50 | AmyRose | but now just telling it I don't have javascript makes it work for every image I've thrown at it so far |
| 00:35.04 | AmyRose | actually, the best way to upload seems to be e-mailing it to my Photobucket upload address :D |
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| 00:39.35 | lilltiger | congrats :) |
| 00:39.58 | AmyRose | yeah, the one stumbling block was Photobucket, but now that I know I can just use KMail to e-mail pictures, I'm happy |
| 00:41.52 | AmyRose | I really am starting to hate Firefox... |
| 00:42.40 | AmyRose | Firefox takes an eternity to start on my old computer, while Konq is pretty fast |
| 00:42.43 | lilltiger | I always have.. |
| 00:43.14 | AmyRose | They call Firefox "lightweight"?! Mozilla/Seamonkey is faster on this thing than Firefox. |
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| 00:43.21 | lilltiger | AmyRose: add to always preload an konq instance in the kcontrolcenter |
| 00:43.41 | lilltiger | links is lightweight :D |
| 00:43.43 | AmyRose | lilltiger: I said Konq was faster, even if I didn't do that :P |
| 00:43.44 | lilltiger | and fast |
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| 00:44.11 | AmyRose | I still think Seamonkey is faster than Firefox. :P |
| 00:44.16 | lilltiger | AmyRose: yhee, konqi is very fast to load, but why wait at all? =D |
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| 00:44.49 | AmyRose | lilltiger: Hahaha :P I'm GUI-addicted |
| 00:45.00 | AmyRose | Sysinfo for 'pentiumtwo': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Pentium II (Klamath) at 332 MHz (665 bogomips), HD: 0/0GB, RAM: 152/154MB, 118 proc's, 1.3d up |
| 00:45.12 | lilltiger | well you can run links with an X flag :D |
| 00:45.24 | lilltiger | wow |
| 00:45.33 | AmyRose | :D |
| 00:45.35 | lilltiger | is that your workstation? |
| 00:45.39 | AmyRose | My old computer |
| 00:45.46 | AmyRose | I'm on my old comp right now |
| 00:46.12 | AmyRose | my newer one is a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 laptop with Nvidia Geforce 4 graphics and 512 MB RAM |
| 00:46.41 | AmyRose | KDE is definitely faster than GNOME on this machine |
| 00:47.11 | AmyRose | I can even use the transparency/shadow/fading on this computer |
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| 00:49.08 | lilltiger | :) |
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| 00:49.27 | lilltiger | I have an P3 866@910 as my workstation |
| 00:49.35 | lilltiger | see no need to buy a new one |
| 00:49.54 | AmyRose | I know the stupid sysinfo script said I had no hard drive... |
| 00:50.01 | AmyRose | I have a 40 GB hard disk on this computer |
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| 00:51.21 | AmyRose | I had to jumper it to tell the BIOS that it's only 2 GB so the BIOS doesn't choke... And as long as /boot is the first partition, Grub can boot Linux, and Linux can see the full size |
| 00:51.30 | thingy | the P2 computer is really underpowered for running KDE...if it had more ram, youd be ok but with <200 ram, you will need to be very patient and not try to multi task |
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| 00:52.16 | AmyRose | thingy: I disagree |
| 00:52.26 | AmyRose-laptop | This is my laptop's specs |
| 00:52.28 | AmyRose-laptop | Sysinfo for 'laptop': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz at 2399 MHz (4792 bogomips), HD: 0/0GB, RAM: 498/503MB, 139 proc's, 2.15d up |
| 00:52.45 | AmyRose-laptop | it has a 60 GB hard disk |
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| 00:54.04 | thingy | for your p2 machine, you can be productive on it, if you restrict yourself to a simple WM + X + your clients...no need for a dm at all. Overkill! |
| 00:54.25 | AmyRose | I'm in love with KDE. What can I say? :P |
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| 00:55.32 | AmyRose | Besides, why the heck are people telling me not to run KDE in the official KDE IRC channel? |
| 00:55.39 | AmyRose | Isn't that kinda weird? |
| 00:55.59 | AmyRose-laptop | I don't need to be on this machine to enjoy KDE. It works fine on my older one too. |
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| 00:56.36 | Thundercloud | AmyRose: But we're not telling you to use GNOME. Oh no. |
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| 00:57.13 | AmyRose | GNOME took forever to load on this thing. |
| 00:57.19 | AmyRose | KDE was much zippier :P |
| 00:58.07 | AmyRose | and seriously, the performance isn't that bad on this computer. |
| 00:58.32 | Skrot- | And I was amazed that KDE ran so smooth om my P4 1.8Ghz with 512MB ram :p |
| 00:59.04 | AmyRose | I don't want to force myself to do everything from a single XTerm in Fluxbox just because you guys aren't patient enough to use KDE on this kind of machine :P |
| 00:59.29 | Thundercloud | Oh no srsly |
| 00:59.38 | Thundercloud | I've used KDE on a p2 366 |
| 00:59.46 | Thundercloud | With about 64mb of RAM. |
| 00:59.51 | Thundercloud | It was slow, but it ran. |
| 01:00.03 | AmyRose | It's probably faster for me because I have 160 MB RAM |
| 01:00.12 | Thundercloud | Well that's even better :) |
| 01:00.28 | AmyRose | yeah, KDE on anything lower than about 128 MB is sluggish |
| 01:01.24 | AmyRose-laptop | But I also have a newer computer, of course... :D |
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| 01:09.26 | thingy | sigh...just spent an hour with a newbie to find out why his box is not booting up into X after all he had done was press ctrl+alt+f1 (to switch to the console) and rebooted the machine by pressing reset on the box. It turned out he's unplugged the mouse from the computer and X was refusing to start without a mouse. What a waste of time. :-( |
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| 01:16.08 | neopc | oiiii |
| 01:17.43 | vbgunz | is there a gui-diff program out there good enough to have no problems with data 4.4GB in size? |
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| 01:33.05 | blistov_ | has anyone seen kmix pop up a white window that says "volume" in the middle of the screen, and never go away? |
| 01:33.28 | blistov_ | also, kmix is forcing the volume down. ie, i turn it up, and kmix just fades it back down to 0 |
| 01:33.36 | Jucato | that OSD is from KMilo |
| 01:33.49 | blistov_ | whats kmilo? |
| 01:34.00 | blistov_ | and why is it turning down my volume ? :) |
| 01:34.28 | Jucato | not sure if it's the one turning down your volume. but it's the one responsible for the volume OSD (On Screen Display) |
| 01:34.49 | Jucato | just afaik |
| 01:34.51 | blistov_ | i don't seem to have kmilo installed, nor is there a thread of it running. |
| 01:35.10 | Jucato | try checking kcontrol -> kde components -> service manager |
| 01:35.14 | blistov_ | i just installed kde-meta on a laptop (i run meta on all my systems) |
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| 01:36.13 | blistov_ | huh. crazy. |
| 01:36.19 | blistov_ | thanks Jucato. |
| 01:36.35 | blistov_ | it seems kmilo thinks i'm holding a key down. |
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| 01:59.52 | vbgunz | damn. I cannot find a single descent and fast diff program to run through 2 4.4GB directories. :( |
| 02:00.46 | wolsni | vbgunz: what's wrong with just diff? |
| 02:01.10 | vbgunz | not sure, I'll try that one. I just kompare and kdiff3 |
| 02:01.39 | thingy | Whats the data set? sql transaction logs? |
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| 02:01.58 | vbgunz | no a DVD Vs the same files in a local directory |
| 02:03.40 | vbgunz | brb |
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| 02:24.51 | kareemx | hello people |
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| 02:35.43 | TwinReverb | i can't figure out why kmail won't check mail from a mail server that is TSL with LOGIN authentication. everything is correct, yet it doesn't connect, i even imported the certs from the mail server in konqueror |
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| 02:46.37 | devcenter | hello, guys |
| 02:47.11 | devcenter | Is possible listen a radio station in amarok and view subtitles? |
| 02:48.13 | TwinReverb | subtitles? as in words to the song? or the song info? |
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| 02:48.22 | devcenter | no |
| 02:49.18 | devcenter | for example: I'm listen a radio, and view subtitles of news |
| 02:49.37 | devcenter | subtitles referent a radio station |
| 02:49.41 | devcenter | example: bbc news |
| 02:50.18 | padde | i'd rather read a newspaper, if i don't understand the news on the radio ;) |
| 02:50.54 | devcenter | padde: |
| 02:51.28 | devcenter | I'm studing english, and i want to listen radio stations |
| 02:51.43 | devcenter | but i need of subtitles ..... |
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| 02:52.40 | padde | i don't know how that could be possible, because usually radio is live, so how can the subtitles be accurate? impossible. |
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| 02:53.16 | padde | get some DVDs, there you can study english, that's how i did it... never watch dubbed movies, always watch with the english audio track and switch on english subtitles... |
| 02:53.24 | piztek | does anyone know why kdetv just loads at startup? |
| 02:54.00 | padde | read a lot on the net, all english, that helps with english orthography and vocabulary. look up unknown words immediately. |
| 02:54.39 | devcenter | padde: |
| 02:54.50 | Jucato | I think there are heaps of kde edu apps that teach english..,. but I guess they are a bit oriented for kids |
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| 02:55.58 | devcenter | into linux don't exist a software that show subtitles from radio station into amarok? |
| 02:56.45 | padde | devcenter: none that i know of. do you know any on other operating systems? |
| 02:56.48 | Jucato | devcenter: if such a radio station does exist, you can probably ask the developers in #amarok for help |
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| 03:03.54 | piztek | are anacron and anaconda the same thing? |
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| 03:05.34 | piztek_ | can anyone here help me with anacron |
| 03:05.34 | TwinReverb | i can't figure out why kmail won't check mail from a mail server that is TSL with LOGIN authentication. everything is correct, yet it doesn't connect, i even imported the certs from the mail server in konqueror |
| 03:05.40 | Jucato | piztek_: no. anaconda is an installer. anacron is a scheduler |
| 03:07.19 | piztek_ | so why does it freeze on shutdown |
| 03:07.23 | piztek_ | what can I do? |
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| 03:09.10 | piztek_ | Jucato: ? |
| 03:09.39 | padde | TwinReverb: are you sure you need TLS with LOGIN? |
| 03:09.59 | TwinReverb | yes i am, i just talked with the admin of it over yahoo |
| 03:10.06 | padde | TwinReverb: and I guess you mean POP or IMAP, not "mail" (which is usually imap) |
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| 03:10.14 | padde | TwinReverb: and I guess you mean POP or IMAP, not "mail" (which is usually smtp) |
| 03:10.54 | padde | TwinReverb: 99% of imap/pop servers i ever connected to needed SSL over port 993 for encrypted transfer... |
| 03:10.59 | TwinReverb | well sending and receiving over pop/smtp |
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| 03:11.21 | padde | TwinReverb: that's two totally different things first solve one, then the other |
| 03:11.22 | TwinReverb | oh well, admin says ssl works but tls is preferred |
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| 03:11.42 | TwinReverb | he did say that if i use ssl, kmail will have to initiate the connection |
| 03:12.13 | padde | TwinReverb: how else could it work? |
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| 03:14.53 | TwinReverb | well kmail evidenta;lly isn't doing something. i have no clue how to troubleshoot it, as i can ssh into the same server just fine, and the server has squirrel mail set up which works great |
| 03:15.04 | padde | TwinReverb: did you try the "check what server supports" button? that would perhaps be the most easy solution. otherwise i can tell you from my experience: pop/imap servers mostly use SSL (plain text auth, it's encrypted anyway) and smtp mostly TLS (plain text auth, too) |
| 03:16.37 | TwinReverb | yes but nothing changed |
| 03:18.27 | TwinReverb | ok, nevermind, ssl + plain worked this time, i guess it was just me |
| 03:18.35 | TwinReverb | or just kmail not liking the TLS from the server, oh well |
| 03:18.50 | padde | or the admin having no clue ;) |
| 03:19.18 | TwinReverb | he has a clue, so far he's ran that server 5 years, no fails, excellent spam and ssh setup, fast connection |
| 03:19.37 | TwinReverb | i'd be the one without a clue, if anyone, or you, since you don't know what server i'm talking about :D :P |
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| 03:20.02 | padde | well, yes, that's also possible |
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| 03:22.23 | TwinReverb | sorry, i get a bit testy when people bad mouth my admin. he's done a superb job for a long time, ever since i've known him. he should be running a major server |
| 03:22.55 | padde | rule no. 1: always blame the admin |
| 03:22.56 | piztek_ | Jucato: ? |
| 03:23.28 | TwinReverb | when it's an email CLIENT issue? pfft whatever |
| 03:23.34 | Jucato | piztek_: hm? |
| 03:23.40 | TwinReverb | if anything, rule #1, blame the free support on #kde :D :P |
| 03:23.46 | Jucato | I was just answering your first question (anaconda vs anacron) |
| 03:23.52 | piztek_ | Jucato: the anacron problem |
| 03:24.04 | piztek_ | anacron freezing problem |
| 03:24.17 | Jucato | sorry, no idea. I don't think it's a KDE problem though. try asking in your distro's channel |
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| 03:24.26 | herttty | hmmm |
| 03:24.46 | herttty | so just loaded konqueror, went into a dir of photos, and it started thumbnailing them ... slowly |
| 03:24.50 | herttty | and then just stopped. |
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| 03:25.02 | herttty | it did like 10 of them and that's it - the rest are just JPEG icons. |
| 03:25.55 | herttty | and now no matter what dir I go into, it refuses to thumbnail anything... |
| 03:26.00 | herttty | what am I doing wrong here ? |
| 03:26.18 | padde | herttty: perhaps the others are above your maximum size for thumbnailing (see Configure Konqueror / Previews & Meta data) |
| 03:26.27 | herttty | oh |
| 03:26.29 | herttty | oh oh |
| 03:27.29 | herttty | yep there it goes :) |
| 03:27.31 | piztek_ | Jucato: nobody is answering in debian |
| 03:27.34 | herttty | so uhmmm |
| 03:27.47 | herttty | someone told me about a add-on / patch that would allow for thumbnailing movie files |
| 03:27.49 | piztek_ | does anyone know why kdetv starts at startup? |
| 03:27.54 | TwinReverb | herttty, maybe you can dump ~/.thumbnails and then shut off thumbnailing |
| 03:28.03 | herttty | but the max acceptable preview/thumb size is 100 MB |
| 03:28.12 | herttty | so how does that patch work, as most movies are larger than 100 MB... |
| 03:28.24 | TwinReverb | probably won't thumbnail them |
| 03:28.49 | herttty | ok. |
| 03:28.54 | padde | herttty: well, it doesn't need to index a whole movie just to get one frame for the thumbnail ;) so i guess that limit won't apply there |
| 03:29.10 | herttty | finally, I wonder, how do I tell konq to shrink-to-fit photos to the window size ? |
| 03:29.14 | padde | herttty: but otherwise i have no clue about that plugin or whatever it is |
| 03:30.07 | herttty | I've gone through the config options a number of times and cannot find a setting for that anywhere |
| 03:30.13 | herttty | but clearly it must be in there somewhere... |
| 03:30.18 | Jucato | piztek_: you could have probably left kdetv running when you logged out and you have your Session Manager set to restore the previous session when you login? |
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| 03:31.33 | herttty | hmmm |
| 03:31.36 | herttty | that didn't do it ... |
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| 03:40.00 | piztek_ | Jucato: can I set the session manager to not restore the previous session anywhere? |
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| 03:44.36 | piztek_ | I found the setting |
| 03:44.38 | piztek_ | thank you everyone |
| 03:44.42 | piztek_ | hopefully this fixes it |
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| 03:48.49 | padde | maaaan, konqueror + toolbars is just buggy |
| 03:49.05 | hads | Works for me |
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| 03:49.30 | mrigns | i keep bugs as pets |
| 03:49.35 | mrigns | they are soooooo cute |
| 03:49.36 | mrigns | ! |
| 03:50.14 | mrigns | padde: you should provide further information if you want help from the channel |
| 03:50.31 | padde | just submitted this bug report: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145129 - and while i was submitting it, i found another bug report which states the "opposite" problem |
| 03:50.52 | padde | that must be a really buggy implementation.. if i only was better at coding... |
| 03:51.39 | padde | mrigns: i don't expect much support, just wanted to rant ;) |
| 03:51.53 | padde | make you guys aware... vote for my bug and such :P |
| 03:52.00 | mrigns | ^^ |
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| 03:52.32 | mrigns | i can't reproduce it though |
| 03:52.49 | smileaf | its always fun finding bugs as your reporting them lol |
| 03:53.13 | smileaf | think I found 3 in the process of trying to report 1 |
| 03:53.28 | padde | smileaf: sounds familiar |
| 03:53.39 | padde | smileaf: and i guess often they are all related to one line of code ;) |
| 03:54.01 | smileaf | not entirely or at least not in this case |
| 03:54.30 | padde | mrigns: oh, new information! |
| 03:54.59 | padde | mrigns: it's not the tab-switching what triggers the re-appearance of the bookmark toolbar, but the activation / deactivation of the sidebar (F9) |
| 03:55.27 | padde | mrigns: but when the sidebar is activated, tab-switching also triggers it, somehow... argh |
| 03:55.55 | mrigns | hmm i did shutdown my vm not in the mood to start it again :D |
| 03:56.04 | mrigns | but i did take a note |
| 03:56.10 | padde | mrigns: oh well ;) thanks |
| 03:56.23 | padde | mrigns: i'll update my bug report |
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| 04:02.46 | padde | wtf? now, after playing around more and adding a comment to my bug report, I can't reproduce it anymore! but it has been like that for months now... this sounds like my konqueror config is somehow screwed up |
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| 04:17.45 | mrigns | padde: lmao |
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| 04:17.56 | padde | mrigns: man, am I confused now |
| 04:18.13 | padde | mrigns: i guess it all comes down to another (third) bug that I've been watching for ages already ;) |
| 04:18.49 | padde | where are those profiles stored again? |
| 04:19.10 | mrigns | ~/.kde somewhere |
| 04:19.16 | padde | found it... .kde3.5/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/ |
| 04:22.58 | padde | mrigns: the profile files don't change at all - they are always as they should be, konqueror seems to mess up during runtime |
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| 04:25.07 | mrigns | padde: is your ability to reproduse it still gone? |
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| 04:25.45 | padde | mrigns: no, as i added into my bug: I get the impression that this bug is related to bug 90521. After opening Konqueror with my file management profile (where there is a bookmarks toolbar enabled, because there I need it), I can reproduce the behaviour described in this bug report again. |
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| 04:27.15 | mrigns | could you run konq in debug mode and add, if you find any, suspicious lines to you report? |
| 04:28.09 | mrigns | s/you/your |
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| 04:28.10 | padde | mrigns: umm, how to do that? i guess i have to recompile it |
| 04:28.33 | mrigns | well never mind. ill try it after myself |
| 04:29.15 | padde | mrigns: i can send you my profile files, if you want, but i don't know if they can be of any help |
| 04:29.50 | mrigns | nah, i don't think they would help much, if they remain untouched |
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| 04:30.26 | mrigns | sorry for my bad english btw, im kind of sleepy |
| 04:30.33 | mrigns | need some coffee |
| 04:30.45 | padde | mrigns: hrhr, what time is it in your zone? |
| 04:31.02 | mrigns | 06:30 AM |
| 04:31.31 | mrigns | i'll have to go to work soon |
| 04:32.06 | padde | mrigns: man, and you're listening to my toolbar bug reports? ;) |
| 04:32.18 | padde | mrigns: that's the spirit :P |
| 04:32.29 | mrigns | ^^ |
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| 05:11.53 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 05:12.05 | lkthomas | is it possible to put terminal on the background as wallpaper ? |
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| 05:16.58 | hads | lkthomas: I don't know about wallpaper but you might look into aterm which will run borderless on the background. |
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| 05:28.58 | Jucato | lkthomas: run a borderless Konsole window, and set it to be transparent so that you could see the wallpaper underneath |
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| 06:21.58 | xushi_ | when i used azureus/mtorrent, it used to download eventhough i'm behind a firewall. But ktorrent completly timesout trying to connect, and can't download. Is there a setting i'm missing ? |
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| 07:07.19 | kaytoo_ | Oh!My kate is ill... I found when I open the php file , my kate crash :( I use gentoo+ked3.5.6,what should I do? T_T |
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| 07:12.43 | gr3ml1n | hi |
| 07:14.10 | gr3ml1n | since i dont wand kde to output any sounds i want artsd to dont start - how would i do that? |
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| 07:14.24 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 07:14.42 | lkthomas | is it possible to use konsole to remember the remote ssh session ? |
| 07:14.58 | lkthomas | so that I wouldn't need to relogin for 100 remote unix server one by one again |
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| 07:15.43 | nick01 | is there a download accelerator for kde ? kget doesn't seem to be able to download from more than one ftp the same file |
| 07:16.31 | Jucato | kget is a download manager, not an download accelerator |
| 07:16.47 | nick01 | Jucato: yeah- is there such a thing for kde ? |
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| 07:17.13 | Jucato | don't think so |
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| 07:18.15 | nick01 | then anybody knows how to change the color of the number of unread emails kmail displays over its icon in the taskbar |
| 07:18.17 | nick01 | ? |
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| 08:10.39 | Mighty_Pooh | Ive been trying to get my kde working with Open-GL and Gentoo opensource Ati drivers. But couldnt get it working. Now ive installed Ati-Drivers and unemerged xf86-video-ati but everytime i try to startx it crash. Anyone who know where i might have a problem to solve ? |
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| 08:11.48 | mardi_soir | Mighty_Pooh: pastebin your xorg log message |
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| 08:13.21 | Mighty_Pooh | mardi_soir: ok ill try |
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| 08:28.58 | Mighty_Pooh | hmm mardi_soir can you link me a pastebin site cause pastebin.com doesnt seem to work with my settings |
| 08:29.31 | mardi_soir | pastebin.ca pastebin.be |
| 08:30.08 | mardi_soir | yes too ! |
| 08:30.55 | Mighty_Pooh | http://www.pastebin.ca/475155 |
| 08:30.57 | Mighty_Pooh | thx |
| 08:31.09 | Mighty_Pooh | might be some dublicates cause i kinda got confused |
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| 08:33.01 | mardi_soir | Mighty_Pooh: is it the whole message ? |
| 08:35.49 | Mighty_Pooh | yes |
| 08:36.02 | Mighty_Pooh | its the Xorg.0.log |
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| 08:36.57 | mardi_soir | did you change the driver section in xorg.conf ? |
| 08:37.11 | mardi_soir | to use with your newer driver |
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| 08:37.47 | silver_hook | I'm trying to make system sounds play throught "play -v 0.4" - how do I set this? |
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| 08:38.44 | silver_hook | making an alias in /etc/profile or ~/.bashrc didn't work and just typing "play -v 0.4" (without the quote marks) in the kconfig promopt didn't either |
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| 08:43.45 | Mighty_Pooh | mardi_soir: yes i did. |
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| 08:44.00 | Mighty_Pooh | the problem only persist when i have ati-drivers emerged |
| 08:44.25 | Mighty_Pooh | when im use the dri drivers i can start X |
| 08:44.44 | silver_hook | setting the player to "play" works ok, but setting it to "play -v 0.4" doesn't ...any idea how to solve this? |
| 08:44.47 | Mighty_Pooh | i just removed the xorg.conf file and tryed to configure with aticonfig but same problem |
| 08:46.14 | mardi_soir | Mighty_Pooh: if you change to vesa from flgrx it works ? are the ati drivers the lastest ? |
| 08:47.07 | xlotlu | what manages the volume osd? it should be something related to kmix (since it's started the first time i change the volume with the XF86Audio(Lower|Raise)Volume keys), but it doesn't seem to. nothing about osd configuration in kmix |
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| 08:54.24 | Mighty_Pooh | mardi_soir: hmm apparently it is configured to use drm somewhere in the system. as when i emerge xorg-x11 it still take drm with it.. i guess thats what screw it up |
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| 08:58.13 | mardi_soir | Mighty_Pooh: ok hope it ll works |
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| 09:02.35 | silver_hook | does honestly no-one know how to set the sound player in kcontrol? |
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| 09:19.25 | piztek | is it possible to install kooldock on 64 etch? |
| 09:19.41 | piztek | or anything like kool dock? |
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| 09:25.08 | AmyRose | I must say Kopete is a much better IRC client than Gaim/Pidgin is... :P |
| 09:25.42 | silver_hook | anyone know how i can convience kde to use "play -v 0.4" to play system sounds instead of "play"? |
| 09:26.10 | silver_hook | (btw, i'm asking *because* just typing "play -v 0.4" into the textbox doesn't work) |
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| 09:26.21 | AmyRose | that's odd |
| 09:26.38 | Jucato | silver_hook: tried putting that in, together with the double quotes? |
| 09:26.58 | silver_hook | AmyRose: kopete irc is pretty decent ...but IMHO konversation is even better |
| 09:27.03 | Jucato | or maybe a simple bash script would be better? |
| 09:27.10 | silver_hook | Jucato: i tired both |
| 09:27.12 | Jucato | oh, and hi AmyRose |
| 09:27.12 | silver_hook | no luck |
| 09:27.21 | AmyRose | silver_hook: I agree... I'm just testing this. :P |
| 09:27.31 | AmyRose | silver_hook: 99% of the time I DO use Konv for IRC |
| 09:27.47 | silver_hook | Jucato: can you walk me through ...I tried to make a script, but I'm notoriously bad at them |
| 09:27.52 | Jucato | AmyRose: the other day, someone was in here talking about how KDE performs on very low end systems... I just remembered you :) |
| 09:27.55 | silver_hook | AmyRose: :] |
| 09:28.05 | AmyRose | hahaha |
| 09:28.15 | Jucato | silver_hook: hm... I think two lines would be enough: #!/bin/bash and /usr/bin/play -v 0.4 |
| 09:28.19 | silver_hook | define very low end system? |
| 09:28.21 | Jucato | not really sure |
| 09:28.28 | AmyRose | let me go back to konversation |
| 09:28.30 | Jucato | silver_hook: hm.. P3, 256MB RAM? |
| 09:28.35 | silver_hook | hahahahaha |
| 09:28.38 | silver_hook | oh, god |
| 09:28.51 | Jucato | I mean, very low end as far as desktops would comfortably run.. |
| 09:29.00 | silver_hook | I was running KDE 2.x (and 1.x I think) on 486/DX2 :] |
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| 09:29.21 | Jucato | well, it's 3.5.x now :) |
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| 09:29.28 | Jucato | and AmyRose was running Kubuntu :) |
| 09:29.36 | Jucato | (not the fastest KDE imho) |
| 09:29.38 | silver_hook | it's not that much heavier then it was back then :P |
| 09:29.51 | silver_hook | it's true that I was running Slackware back then |
| 09:29.59 | silver_hook | but it *IS* possible to run KDE on 486! |
| 09:30.02 | silver_hook | :] |
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| 09:30.37 | AmyRose | Sysinfo for 'laptop': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz at 2399 MHz (4792 bogomips), HD: 0/0GB, RAM: 498/503MB, 129 proc's, 3.0d up |
| 09:30.40 | AmyRose | Yeah, I'm on a low-spec computer :P |
| 09:30.42 | AmyRose | hahaha |
| 09:30.50 | Jucato | lol |
| 09:30.53 | Jucato | not that one :P |
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| 09:31.11 | AmyRose | hahaha |
| 09:31.22 | silver_hook | Jucato: no, that doesn't work ...i tried it already and no luck |
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| 09:31.24 | AmyRose | Yeah, my laptop is a "decent" machine :P |
| 09:31.48 | Jucato | it's more than decent |
| 09:31.55 | Jucato | it's classy! :P |
| 09:32.03 | Jucato | Sysinfo for 'suzaku': Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r6 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMD Sempron 2200+ at 1500 MHz (3003 bogomips), HD: 26/44GB, RAM: 992/1009MB, 97 proc's, 2.12h up |
| 09:32.10 | Jucato | (desktop) |
| 09:32.24 | Jucato | lol you don't have a hard disk again? :D |
| 09:32.27 | AmyRose | But this stupid script says I have no hard disk |
| 09:32.38 | AmyRose | My laptop has a 60 GB drive |
| 09:32.47 | Jucato | heh the stupid script actually just calls the "sysinfo" command |
| 09:32.53 | Jucato | er... hm.. |
| 09:33.01 | AmyRose | came with 30, but I had a 60 GB hard drive left over from a dead laptop |
| 09:33.11 | silver_hook | Jucato: the script produces this: |
| 09:33.12 | silver_hook | sox: Usage: [ gopts ] [ fopts ] ifile [ fopts ] ofile [ effect [ effopts ] ] |
| 09:33.17 | silver_hook | Failed: Not enough input or output filenames specified |
| 09:33.26 | Jucato | silver_hook: ah.. hm... wait... |
| 09:33.41 | Jucato | "/usr/bin/play -v 0.4 $@" I think.. |
| 09:33.43 | silver_hook | that's also as far as I got myself |
| 09:33.54 | Jucato | not really sure about the $@ part |
| 09:34.00 | AmyRose | Jucato: The Windows lovers at my school think this laptop is pathetic :P |
| 09:35.45 | silver_hook | yay works now :D |
| 09:35.50 | Jucato | AmyRose: the windows lovers at your school would absolutely *need* those specs for vista... while you can use those specs for other things :) |
| 09:36.07 | silver_hook | AmyRose: meh, who listens to them anyway :P |
| 09:36.12 | AmyRose | Jucato: Definitely... It's got nvidia graphics and a very good sound system |
| 09:36.38 | silver_hook | nvidia *and* decent sound ...wow! |
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| 09:37.01 | AmyRose | silver_hook: This thing has very good speakers on it :D |
| 09:37.03 | silver_hook | Jucato: thanks, that $@ did the trick :] |
| 09:37.12 | Jucato | silver_hook: ah kool. that's great |
| 09:37.28 | silver_hook | mhm, now i can clamly go back to studying :D |
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| 09:37.42 | AmyRose | Jucato: Only 32 MB of vram but Beryl is very good on it :D Only thing that sucks is that the battery doesn't last longer than half an hour and sometimes dies after only 5 minutes, but what can I expect from a 10-pound desktop replacement laptop |
| 09:37.46 | silver_hook | mine's an Acer Aspire 5022 :/ |
| 09:37.55 | Jucato | silver_hook: oh you should feel the heat instead... |
| 09:38.21 | silver_hook | tell me about it O_o |
| 09:38.24 | Jucato | mine is a twinhead... fries your legs :) |
| 09:38.32 | Jucato | (or thighs, rather) |
| 09:38.44 | silver_hook | mine overheats the hdd sometimes as well |
| 09:39.01 | silver_hook | it's not really scorching ...but not fun either |
| 09:39.41 | AmyRose | I bought a new laptop in 2004 with crappy ATI graphics and a terrible speaker system, and it lasted until last October because the store broke the hinges and used fine print to get out of fixing it |
| 09:39.42 | silver_hook | anyway ...better be off to my books, business law won't just jump in my head by itself |
| 09:40.22 | Jucato | this one is almost scorching hot |
| 09:40.25 | silver_hook | see ya and good luck with your boxes :] |
| 09:40.27 | AmyRose | This laptop is a year older and came with an Orinoco wifi card. I took that wifi card out and put the one from my dead laptop into it... |
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| 09:40.46 | AmyRose | so this laptop now has an Atheros 802.11a/b/g card in it |
| 09:41.23 | silver_hook | oh, and AmyRose, next time win* geeks tease you, just point at them and fall into a hysteric laughter ;) |
| 09:41.42 | AmyRose | silver_hook: The easiest way: turn Beryl on. :D |
| 09:41.57 | silver_hook | AmyRose: you can always do both ;) |
| 09:42.13 | Jucato | one after the other, of course |
| 09:42.14 | AmyRose | silver_hook: True |
| 09:42.19 | AmyRose | hahaha |
| 09:42.20 | Jucato | (turn beryl on, then point and laugh) |
| 09:42.43 | AmyRose | The hardest thing to explain to many newbies, though, is why ATI sucks. |
| 09:42.53 | Jucato | of course, just make sure that you don't run into fsck's regular checkup while booting, otherwise they'll be the ones laughing (I think) |
| 09:43.04 | silver_hook | heh |
| 09:43.05 | AmyRose | Jucato: Oh, I've had that happen before... |
| 09:43.12 | silver_hook | me too |
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| 09:43.44 | silver_hook | but then i explained how journaling works and they were silent ...i was lucky that they didn't know ntfs has journaling too :] |
| 09:43.58 | oneforall | how do I get konq to support frames |
| 09:44.00 | Jucato | heh must be quite a funny experience... "Linux is known for fast bootup times and stability and... oh... fsck checkup..." |
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| 09:44.25 | Jucato | silver_hook: they were only silent probably because they didn't understand a thing you said? :D |
| 09:44.36 | AmyRose | oneforall: Usually that's enabled by default |
| 09:44.38 | silver_hook | Jucato: that helps most of the time, yea ;) |
| 09:44.47 | AmyRose | oneforall: I use framed sites in Konq all the time |
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| 09:45.18 | Jucato | hm... ntfs has journalling? sure fooled me :D |
| 09:45.23 | oneforall | hmm getting your browser doesn't support frames . |
| 09:45.48 | AmyRose | Anybody else hate the default Bitstream Vera/DejaVu fonts that are the default on pretty much every Linux distro these days? |
| 09:46.02 | Jucato | oneforall: huh? konqueror/khtml supports frames |
| 09:46.11 | AmyRose | I like Red Hat's old default of Luxi Sans |
| 09:46.33 | Jucato | oh wait |
| 09:46.35 | AmyRose | Jucato: Huh? |
| 09:46.36 | Jucato | sorry... |
| 09:46.39 | Jucato | other way around :) |
| 09:46.50 | AmyRose | Jucato: Again, Huh? |
| 09:46.51 | silver_hook | AmyRose: I like DejaVu Sans ...and they're not default on Gentoo ;) |
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| 09:46.54 | Jucato | Sans for UI text. but DejaVu Serif for document text |
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| 09:47.08 | silver_hook | I liked DejaVu before they were popular ;) |
| 09:47.10 | silver_hook | hehe |
| 09:47.12 | AmyRose | I like the elegance of Luxi Sans |
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| 09:47.21 | silver_hook | Luxi Sans is not bad either |
| 09:47.31 | AmyRose | I know it's "non-free", but I like it :P |
| 09:47.44 | AmyRose | Jucato: Have you seen any of my screen shots? |
| 09:48.07 | silver_hook | AmyRose: share? |
| 09:48.10 | Jucato | AmyRose: nope... but even if I did, not being a font guy, I would probably not even otice the differences... |
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| 09:48.52 | AmyRose | Jucato: http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s59/amyrose1024/itsoutnow.png |
| 09:49.01 | AmyRose | It's the font used for almost everything shown |
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| 09:50.09 | Jucato | heh again, not a font guy... the only difference I see is that Luxi is thicker :) |
| 09:50.26 | AmyRose | That's part of why I like it |
| 09:50.26 | silver_hook | http://matija.suklje.name/files/desktop_2.png |
| 09:50.40 | AmyRose | I like that Luxi Sans has some weight to it |
| 09:51.06 | Jucato | mine is just plain Sans :D |
| 09:51.17 | keenan | Hello everyone....I need some help again, using sabayon and would like to replace the bootsplash with a custom one...can anyone help please |
| 09:51.20 | AmyRose | Jucato: Then you're probably using DejaVu Sans |
| 09:51.36 | Jucato | AmyRose: no. as in Sans |
| 09:51.41 | Jucato | just Sans Serif |
| 09:51.49 | Jucato | (default on Gentoo and KDE) |
| 09:51.59 | Jucato | keenan: #sabayon please |
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| 09:52.17 | AmyRose | Jucato: They alias it to DejaVu Sans on every mainstream distro |
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| 09:52.46 | Jucato | AmyRose: not on Gentoo |
| 09:52.57 | Jucato | because Gentoo doesn't install dejavu |
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| 09:53.37 | AmyRose | Jucato: Then it's probably Bitstream Vera. They're the same font |
| 09:53.48 | AmyRose | but DejaVu has more glyphs |
| 09:54.00 | silver_hook | AmyRose: Gentoo doesn't install any fonts by default ...there is no default ;) |
| 09:54.26 | Jucato | not a font guy :D |
| 09:54.30 | oneforall | hmm yeah other frames places work. must be just the site |
| 09:54.37 | keenan | I came to kde because nobody is replying in sabayon, so I thought you guys might help |
| 09:54.56 | oneforall | hey is there a way when you load an avi or mov to change the sound to just asla in konq |
| 09:54.58 | silver_hook | keenan: try #gentoo ...sabayon is basically a fork of gentoo |
| 09:55.05 | AmyRose | silver_hook: Uh..... then how the heck is text shown on-screen? |
| 09:55.21 | silver_hook | AmyRose: well, by the font you chose or comes with X |
| 09:55.22 | AmyRose | Some GNOME user told me that Sabayon was a fork of ubuntu :P |
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| 09:55.44 | keenan | sabayon is gentoo based |
| 09:55.45 | Jucato | silver_hook: no. he'll most likely just get some not so nice treatment and be asked to go to #sabayon |
| 09:56.22 | keenan | can anyone help me to install a new theme and a new bootsplash please |
| 09:56.24 | AmyRose | oneforall: You'd have to adjust the settings for the player |
| 09:56.26 | Jucato | (for 2 weeks, their topic says to go to #sabayon for Sabayon questions) |
| 09:57.22 | AmyRose | silver_hook: If there's no default font, how the heck can you see text on-screen? You're not making any sense |
| 09:57.24 | silver_hook | keenan: try these: |
| 09:57.29 | silver_hook | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash |
| 09:57.36 | oneforall | well its one if you put in say http://blah.com/movie.mov not sure whats built into konw for that |
| 09:57.37 | Jucato | keenan: bootsplash is the splash screen that you see when booting up, after GRUB. that's not something KDE handles. you have to ask in #sabayon |
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| 09:57.54 | oneforall | right click select I know which player :D |
| 09:58.25 | Jucato | silver_hook: while sabayon is Gentoo-based, I think it's quite reasonable to presume that it is not the same as Gentoo, and some Gentoo-specific instructions won't work |
| 09:58.31 | Jucato | (same thing for ubuntu being debian-based) |
| 09:58.35 | AmyRose | oneforall: Clicking on such a link here would open it in Kaffeine most likely, not in Konq |
| 09:59.00 | silver_hook | AmyRose: some fonts come with X (or as a dependancy of it) ...but those are very limited |
| 09:59.15 | AmyRose | silver_hook: Yes, and most likely Bitstream Vera is the default |
| 09:59.50 | AmyRose | (It looks too Tahoma-ey for my liking) |
| 09:59.51 | oneforall | AmyRose no its openign it the same way as preview what ever that uses |
| 10:00.26 | AmyRose | oneforall: The way to find out is to go into file associations |
| 10:00.32 | silver_hook | AmyRose: nope. Bistream Vera is a separate package on Gentoo |
| 10:00.44 | oneforall | if it was mplayer or xine then it wouldn't complain about no arts :d |
| 10:00.46 | AmyRose | Ick, then it's probably using Helvetica |
| 10:01.29 | silver_hook | AmyRose: mhm, that and the minimal package of Georgia, Verdana etc. |
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| 10:02.15 | silver_hook | but yea, in the end, most programs default to Helvetica when asked for Sans Serif ...unless you emerge prettier fonts ;) |
| 10:02.54 | AmyRose | Every other distro uses DejaVu/Bistream Vera |
| 10:03.17 | AmyRose | and I hate it--it looks too Tahoma-ish (which is why it's considered "good" apparently...) |
| 10:03.42 | silver_hook | I like DejaVu :P |
| 10:03.57 | AmyRose | Why, because it looks like a Tahoma clone? |
| 10:04.15 | Jucato | it's so nice not to be a font-ish person :P |
| 10:04.26 | Jucato | I don't have to worry so much about these little things :P |
| 10:05.39 | silver_hook | AmyRose: naah, it's easy on the eyes because it's kinda wide enough, but not exctly as wide as a fixed-width(?) font |
| 10:05.49 | AmyRose | Well, you know the font howto says you should make everything look exactly like Linux: http://alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#msfonts |
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| 10:05.53 | AmyRose | I mean |
| 10:05.56 | AmyRose | Windows |
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| 10:06.15 | AmyRose | It says you should use the same fonts Windows does and disable anti-aliasing for small sizes |
| 10:06.20 | AmyRose | :P |
| 10:06.33 | silver_hook | plus in my language there's special characters that show nicely in DejaVu :] |
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| 10:06.45 | silver_hook | meh, why should i? |
| 10:07.03 | AmyRose | I don't know. It was written by "font experts" |
| 10:07.04 | AmyRose | :P |
| 10:07.17 | silver_hook | i use font antialias + have my DPI set correctly in X :] |
| 10:07.40 | Jucato | there is no "should" in the FOSS multiverse :) |
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| 10:07.58 | silver_hook | mhm |
| 10:08.45 | AmyRose | I wonder why the font snobs keep saying Tahoma is a good font. I think it's ugly. |
| 10:09.40 | silver_hook | damn |
| 10:09.45 | silver_hook | i lost a very nice font :/ |
| 10:10.12 | StevenR | AmyRose: it's smooth...mostly. And it is one of the better ones that you get with MS Windows |
| 10:10.29 | AmyRose | Luxi Sans > Tahoma :P |
| 10:10.40 | StevenR | well yes, and the bitstream one too |
| 10:10.55 | sabayonuser__ | help on beryl |
| 10:11.49 | StevenR | AmyRose: it used to be much better than anything we had, but now that X has AA fonts, we win :) |
| 10:12.30 | AmyRose | definitely |
| 10:12.38 | silver_hook | htto://matija.suklje.name/files/2004_08_02_desktop3.jpg |
| 10:12.44 | silver_hook | http://matija.suklje.name/files/2004_08_02_desktop3.jpg |
| 10:13.01 | silver_hook | I really liked the font I used there on the desktop icons :/ |
| 10:13.37 | Jucato | ooh anime :) |
| 10:13.54 | Jucato | aargh hentai! |
| 10:14.13 | Jucato | not workplace-safe :P |
| 10:14.58 | silver_hook | it's my laptop :P |
| 10:15.06 | Jucato | hehe |
| 10:15.10 | Jucato | how's planeshift btw? is it good? |
| 10:15.13 | silver_hook | plus it's neither hentai nor do i use it anymore (2004 - see?) |
| 10:15.16 | silver_hook | I like |
| 10:15.32 | Jucato | yeah it's not hentai... but bordering :) |
| 10:15.37 | silver_hook | I haven't had time to play in months, but all in all I like it :] |
| 10:15.45 | Jucato | (btw, "hentai" literally means "pervert" anyway, so...) |
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| 10:15.58 | AmyRose | This is my current wallpaper: http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s59/amyrose1024/0690289d.png |
| 10:16.29 | Jucato | hehe I haven't had time to change mine... it's the default kde 3.6 (3.3?) wallpaper |
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| 10:16.41 | silver_hook | anyway, i use a separate wallpaper on each virtual desktop |
| 10:16.48 | Jucato | (why do you put "wallpapers" on your "desktop" anyway?) |
| 10:17.04 | silver_hook | to see on which one you are ;) |
| 10:17.07 | AmyRose | dunno |
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| 10:17.15 | AmyRose | wallpapers |
| 10:17.16 | AmyRose | lol |
| 10:17.17 | Jucato | silver_hook: er.. notice the " "? :D |
| 10:17.48 | silver_hook | erm ...i don't follow :/ |
| 10:18.01 | silver_hook | sorry, doing several things at the same time |
| 10:18.02 | Jucato | imagine the "logic". you put a wallpaper on your desk(top).. you put a trash can on your desk(top)... |
| 10:18.04 | AmyRose | Jucato: KDE 3.6? |
| 10:18.13 | AmyRose | :D |
| 10:18.16 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 10:18.31 | silver_hook | oh that |
| 10:18.38 | Jucato | don't mind me. I'm just being... overly logical |
| 10:18.49 | silver_hook | yea, i was wondering about that terminology for some time already |
| 10:18.56 | giovanni | yes, it worked...but i didn't do anything...i was still studying the topic1 |
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| 10:19.04 | Jucato | O.o |
| 10:19.08 | silver_hook | why don't we call it table cloth? |
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| 10:19.26 | Jucato | :) |
| 10:19.43 | AmyRose | Well, I just showed you a picture of my *ahem* table cloth :D |
| 10:19.44 | Jucato | why do we still call it a desktop anyway? :D |
| 10:20.06 | Jucato | heh what's the name of that character? is she sonic's gf? |
| 10:20.17 | AmyRose | Jucato: Because vertical desktops are cool |
| 10:20.21 | AmyRose | Jucato: Amy Rose |
| 10:20.25 | Jucato | lol |
| 10:20.30 | Jucato | you're Sonic's gf? :D |
| 10:20.36 | AmyRose | Jucato: Hahaha.. no |
| 10:20.41 | silver_hook | i guess because it has tools on it and you write papers on it? |
| 10:20.45 | Jucato | not as cool as wallpapers on desktops :D |
| 10:21.20 | silver_hook | but which sick maniac would take a desk, put wallpaper on it, a bunch of religious symbols and then several layers of windows? |
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| 10:21.41 | silver_hook | imagine that IRL |
| 10:21.54 | AmyRose | Jucato: Nickspammer! :P |
| 10:21.55 | silver_hook | not to mention the mouse |
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| 10:22.13 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 10:22.16 | silver_hook | the trashcan at al. |
| 10:22.37 | silver_hook | icon |
| 10:22.37 | AmyRose | Well, my trash can is on the floor, not on my desk :P |
| 10:22.45 | silver_hook | icon = religious symbol, right? |
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| 10:22.49 | Jucato | lol! an icon is not a religious symbol :) |
| 10:22.59 | Jucato | it's from a greek word. ikonia, iirc |
| 10:23.04 | Jucato | aikon sorry |
| 10:23.10 | silver_hook | that too :] |
| 10:23.11 | Jucato | (which is also Nokia spelled backwards) |
| 10:23.16 | silver_hook | eikon, btw |
| 10:23.20 | Jucato | ah ok.. |
| 10:23.32 | silver_hook | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon |
| 10:23.59 | AmyRose | oh yeah, that's a good idea--studying languages that nobody speaks anymore |
| 10:24.13 | silver_hook | it is |
| 10:24.26 | benJIman | Latin is far more relevant than eg french. |
| 10:24.40 | Jucato | AmyRose: it's kinda fun at times... helps with the vocabulary too |
| 10:24.51 | Jucato | I mean, sometimes you can guess the meaning of words based on their latin roots |
| 10:25.03 | silver_hook | you'd wonder how many words are based on latin and ancient greek |
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| 10:25.07 | hrothgar | linguistic dissertation on #kde |
| 10:25.10 | hrothgar | what's up? |
| 10:25.11 | hrothgar | :-) |
| 10:25.16 | silver_hook | #kde-i18n ;) |
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| 10:25.20 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 10:25.24 | Jucato | klatin :P |
| 10:25.30 | hrothgar | :-) |
| 10:25.49 | silver_hook | plus the complexity of lating and ancient greek prepare you to study other languages more analytically |
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| 10:26.06 | AmyRose | :P |
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| 10:27.10 | AmyRose | Am I the only one here who's in the US? The other desktop screen shots I've seen weren't in English |
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| 10:27.26 | silver_hook | anyhoo |
| 10:27.30 | piztek | anyone here? |
| 10:27.32 | silver_hook | i *really* should be studying |
| 10:27.36 | Jucato | my desktop is very English... but I'm not in the US (or UK) |
| 10:27.36 | benJIman | People in the US don't speak english either. |
| 10:27.41 | AmyRose | piztek: Nope. Nobody's here :P |
| 10:27.48 | piztek | lol, funny |
| 10:27.50 | silver_hook | AmyRose: no worries, I'm probably the only idiot who studies law in this channel as well ;) |
| 10:28.08 | piztek | well does anyone have any information on ksmoothdock for x86_64 |
| 10:28.16 | MZM | silver_hook: this is strange place to study law... |
| 10:28.20 | AmyRose | silver_hook: I actually am studying to be a teacher's aide, not a computer tech or CS major :P |
| 10:28.39 | silver_hook | piztek: should work, it is in amd64 stable branch of Gentoo |
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| 10:29.05 | AmyRose | piztek: You're just imagining things. Nobody's here! |
| 10:29.33 | Jucato | silver_hook: he's not using Gentoo though (iirc) |
| 10:29.42 | piztek | silver_hook: i compiled and ran it and it was working, and restarted but not it bugs out |
| 10:29.49 | silver_hook | Jucato: but it proves you're able to compile it ;) |
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| 10:30.04 | piztek | now* |
| 10:30.11 | Jucato | silver_hook: doesn't prove you can actually successfully compile *and* run it on other distros too :D |
| 10:30.18 | piztek | it was working, i'll say that |
| 10:30.19 | MZM | compiling is most important. Who runs soft after compilation anyway? |
| 10:30.25 | AmyRose | silver_hook: Jucato's got a point |
| 10:30.39 | silver_hook | Jucato: meh :P |
| 10:30.40 | piztek | it said to do so in the directions |
| 10:30.52 | AmyRose | MZM: We're supposed to be trying to give an illusion of nobody being here! |
| 10:30.55 | silver_hook | you guys and this "logic" thing :P |
| 10:31.02 | AmyRose | oops... I gave it away :P |
| 10:31.14 | piztek | oh sweet, now it's running good again |
| 10:31.25 | Jucato | AmyRose: who says illusions can't/shouldn't speak? :D |
| 10:31.28 | piztek | well can I auto start it at startup somehow? |
| 10:31.37 | Jucato | illusions are better if they more closely mimic reality :D |
| 10:31.38 | piztek | say a script |
| 10:31.51 | silver_hook | 'm really off now... |
| 10:31.54 | silver_hook | see ya |
| 10:32.09 | StevenR | hi. my kde clock and kmail think it's 2006. `date` shows the correct year, 2007. Why is kde wrong? |
| 10:32.18 | Jucato | piztek: if you set KDE's Session Manager to restore from previous session, just leave it running when you log out |
| 10:32.23 | AmyRose | piztek: You can make anything start up by putting a link, .desktop file, or script in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 10:32.34 | AmyRose | Jucato: I hate that feature |
| 10:32.37 | piztek | what must the script say? |
| 10:32.44 | MZM | AmyRose: yea, and what about that spookie voice from behind of screen during movie? Nobody there, but somebody speaks... |
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| 10:33.08 | AmyRose | MZM: Touché |
| 10:33.14 | Jucato | piztek: you don't even need a script. just go to ~/.kde/Autostart, right-click -> Create New -> Link to Application |
| 10:33.51 | AmyRose | Jucato: I alwyas like setting it up to start with a blank session. I hate having to worry about closing programs when logging out |
| 10:34.09 | piztek | thank you, i'm going to try it, brb |
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| 10:34.38 | Jucato | AmyRose: me too. I prefer a clean start... but lately I've been to lazy to setup autostart apps again :D |
| 10:34.49 | AmyRose | Heh |
| 10:35.02 | Jucato | as I autostart quite a number of them... |
| 10:35.12 | Jucato | basket, katapult, yakuake, kmix (sometimes), etc. |
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| 10:37.12 | AmyRose | o.o' |
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| 10:37.38 | Jucato | AmyRose: Simeon_H likes to huggle. just your luck annma (his regular customer) isn't around |
| 10:37.42 | Jucato | :P |
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| 10:37.58 | Simeon_H | oy! |
| 10:38.16 | piztek | well ksmoothdock loaded but crashed instantly |
| 10:38.19 | Simeon_H | ;O |
| 10:38.23 | piztek | what can I do? |
| 10:38.26 | Simeon_H | KDE has teh best clocks |
| 10:38.38 | Simeon_H | like the fuzzy one <3 |
| 10:38.44 | StevenR | Simeon_H: except it's exactly one year out. |
| 10:39.05 | Simeon_H | well that isn't KDE's fault |
| 10:39.14 | Simeon_H | you need to update your BIOS clock :D |
| 10:39.21 | StevenR | `date` shows the correct time and date |
| 10:39.44 | StevenR | the clock is set from an ntp server |
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| 10:41.43 | StevenR | Simeon_H: the bios clock, system clock and ntp server all agree that it's 2007. KDE's clock, and kmail, think that it's 2006. How do I fix kde? |
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| 10:42.35 | piztek | isn't there a clock setting in settings? |
| 10:42.39 | piztek | set the timezone |
| 10:42.47 | Jucato | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:44.18 | piztek | Jucato: help me fix ksmoothdock |
| 10:44.23 | puchu | hi |
| 10:44.43 | piztek | plz |
| 10:45.10 | puchu | i have a problem .. my konqueror is sometimes consuming 100% cpu time... but it doesnt happen when i do specific things ... it happens from time to time.... is this problem known? or better is there a way to fix it? |
| 10:45.11 | StevenR | Jucato: that shows the correct time, date and year. but the kicker clock does not. |
| 10:45.31 | StevenR | piztek: the timezone is correct |
| 10:45.43 | piztek | is the install new? |
| 10:45.57 | piztek | i had the same problem and people told me to wait |
| 10:46.17 | piztek | and that it should eventually fix itself after updating |
| 10:46.36 | piztek | but not guaranteed after the first update |
| 10:46.45 | Jucato | piztek: sorry, as I don't use ksmoothdock and only have a 32-bit machine, I can't help |
| 10:47.07 | StevenR | piztek: it's not new. but it is updated |
| 10:48.40 | piztek | ntpdate |
| 10:48.43 | piztek | i installed that |
| 10:48.44 | Jucato | StevenR: I think you'd have to restart kicker or log out for any time changes to take effect. not really sure |
| 10:49.13 | StevenR | Jucato: yeah, i've done that too. The time syncing is done by the system, via cron |
| 10:49.25 | piztek | i think i read on a forum to install that when i was looking for a fix |
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| 10:59.10 | xushi | i just changed permission on apache and added my user to the group.. Closing restarting konsole allwed me to see the contents of htdocs (chmod 664) because it gave me permission denied.. but it still gives me permission denied with konqueror, kfmclient... do i have to restart kde ? |
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| 11:11.34 | xushi | anyone ? |
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| 11:13.37 | puchu | i have a problem .. my konqueror is sometimes consuming 100% cpu time... but it doesnt happen when i do specific things ... it happens from time to time.... is this problem known? or better is there a way to fix it? |
| 11:13.47 | puchu | i have this version of konqueror kde-base/konqueror-3.5.5 |
| 11:14.15 | annma | it does not happen to me |
| 11:14.24 | annma | did you ask your distro channel? |
| 11:14.48 | puchu | yeah |
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| 11:15.30 | annma | let me guess, they sent you here |
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| 11:16.21 | puchu | annma no i asked no one could help me and i thought .. maybe the nice guys in #kde can help me.... :) |
| 11:16.47 | annma | is it your first KDE use? |
| 11:16.50 | puchu | no |
| 11:16.57 | puchu | im using it since 4 years now |
| 11:17.01 | annma | did it happen previously? |
| 11:17.10 | puchu | it happens since some time |
| 11:17.14 | puchu | some months i think |
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| 11:17.45 | puchu | when it happens i kill the konqueror instance and then everything works fine for a while |
| 11:18.00 | puchu | but after some time it happens again |
| 11:18.04 | annma | I mean: only with this version or also previously? |
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| 11:18.18 | puchu | i could look at my update history |
| 11:18.51 | puchu | i think 3.52 was fine .. but with 3.5.5 the problems started |
| 11:18.52 | annma | did you try a new user? |
| 11:19.02 | puchu | i deleted my whole kde config |
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| 11:19.11 | annma | oh that's not smart |
| 11:19.20 | annma | you should not do that |
| 11:19.27 | puchu | all files related to konqueror i ment |
| 11:20.17 | puchu | is there a way to find out why it happens? |
| 11:20.24 | puchu | could i anable logging or somthing? |
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| 11:20.54 | puchu | would be nice to know why konqueror does this |
| 11:21.09 | puchu | im on a 64bit linux .. amd64 .... |
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| 11:21.38 | annma | I run kde from sources and I never had such a problem, on 32 |
| 11:21.51 | puchu | im on gentoo .. run from sources too |
| 11:22.06 | annma | I have usually 5 or 6 konqs open with several tabs each |
| 11:22.21 | annma | might be a compile problem |
| 11:22.29 | qupada | since i missed it, what's the issue? |
| 11:22.41 | qupada | i run gentoo amd64 too, never really had issues with anything |
| 11:22.42 | puchu | no it not a matter of konqueror instances ... when i use konqueror .. i sometimes have 10 open konqueror .. but sometimes one of there starts consuming 100% cpu time |
| 11:22.45 | annma | he says konq *sometimes* eats CPU |
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| 11:23.10 | puchu | sometimes .. it doesnt happen for days |
| 11:23.12 | annma | puchu: you have to find what triggers it as it seems not reproducable |
| 11:23.14 | puchu | but then again |
| 11:23.25 | annma | not sure how one can help you there |
| 11:23.31 | mardi_soir | is the problem from flash plugin ? |
| 11:23.41 | mardi_soir | puchu: do you have some exotic cflags ? |
| 11:23.50 | puchu | i opan a folder ... edit some files in nano ... for explample .. (konq is not used only open) and then .. suddenly .. 100% cpu time |
| 11:23.51 | annma | it would happen very often mardi_soir maybe then |
| 11:24.04 | qupada | do you have any dodgy third-party kioslaves/konq plugins installed that might be trying to do something stupid with the files in the folder? |
| 11:24.08 | puchu | CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops" |
| 11:24.13 | annma | puchu: so it's not konqueror webbrowser? |
| 11:24.18 | puchu | no |
| 11:24.22 | puchu | i use firefoy |
| 11:24.24 | puchu | fox |
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| 11:24.49 | puchu | it happens when i use the filebrwoser ... never surf with konqueror |
| 11:24.57 | qupada | well -funroll-loops is a BAD idea |
| 11:25.15 | qupada | doubtful it's the cause of your issues, but you still really don't want that in your CFLAGS |
| 11:25.16 | puchu | maybe i should disable it ... and recompile konqueror or the whole kde? |
| 11:25.19 | annma | it does FUNny things ahah |
| 11:25.26 | annma | sorry |
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| 11:25.48 | puchu | or the whole sys? |
| 11:26.12 | qupada | puchu: depending on how much of your system uses that flag you might want to run 'emerge -e world'. however just everything kde-related should suffice |
| 11:26.23 | puchu | okay |
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| 11:26.41 | puchu | the complete sys is on -funroll-loops |
| 11:26.59 | puchu | recomplied everything some months ago |
| 11:27.24 | puchu | but i recompiled the whole kde some time ago... thought maybe this would fix it |
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| 11:36.16 | pelandrit | hello folks |
| 11:36.51 | pelandrit | can i translate a video dvd into vcd or svd with k3b 1.0? |
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| 11:37.58 | annma | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DVD_to_VCD |
| 11:38.11 | jeekl | konsole keeps hanging whenever I try to start it. Is there some way in which I can diagnose why it's hanging when I start it? |
| 11:38.24 | annma | pelandrit: Google is quicker than asking here generally for that kind of question |
| 11:38.37 | annma | jeekl: start it from another terminal |
| 11:38.45 | annma | jeekl: try a new user? |
| 11:39.27 | jeekl | starting it from another terminal gives me tons and tons of warnings like this: "11507: Warning: ignoring invalid out-of-map direct binding for symbol _ZN9QJisCodecC1Ev: 0x6a9262" |
| 11:40.09 | annma | what distro? |
| 11:40.12 | jeekl | I haven't tried a new user. Is there some way to change users when I've manually started kde using startx? The switch user-option disappeared from my kmenu |
| 11:40.21 | jeekl | annma: Opensuse 10.2 |
| 11:40.34 | jeekl | Kde 3.5.6 release 41.4 |
| 11:40.43 | annma | seems pretty messed up, did you upgrade recently your KDE? |
| 11:40.58 | jeekl | Nope. A while ago. |
| 11:41.17 | jeekl | I've had this problem for a week or so and tried different methods of gettig it to work. |
| 11:41.29 | jeekl | But I'm no kde-hacker, unfortunately ;-) |
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| 11:43.57 | pelandrit | annma: thanks but that tuto talks about vcdimager tovid and avidemux, my question was about k3b, i'ver read that in version 1.0 k3b was able to rip dvd's directly and i've seen that one of the programs used by that version is vcdimager but i don't find how to do it with k3b, nor in the k3b manual or in google |
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| 11:45.51 | Mighty_Pooh | i just tryed to install my ati-drivers and ati-drivers-extra. with Gentoo. The problem i get when i try to start kde now is.. |
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| 11:46.11 | Mighty_Pooh | failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/drivers//fglrx_drv.so |
| 11:46.23 | Mighty_Pooh | failed to load module "fglrx" loader failed, 7) |
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| 11:46.27 | annma | jeekl: I lost my connexion, did you see what I wrote? |
| 11:46.43 | annma | Mighty_Pooh: ask in #gentoo how to repair your Xorg file |
| 11:46.50 | Mighty_Pooh | no drivers available |
| 11:46.54 | annma | Mighty_Pooh: this is not a KDE problem |
| 11:46.59 | jeekl | annma: Last thing I saw was [13:50:02] <annma> seems pretty messed up, did you upgrade recently your KDE? |
| 11:47.05 | Mighty_Pooh | annma ohh ok |
| 11:47.20 | annma | did you answer that jeekl? |
| 11:47.57 | jeekl | annma: Yes. I ahven't upgraded kde for a while and I've had this problem with konsole for a week or so but I've been trying to fix it myself. But to no prevail |
| 11:48.08 | annma | oh ok, so it's recent |
| 11:48.13 | pelandrit | annma: do you know if is possible to do it with k3b or not? |
| 11:48.14 | jeekl | Yup |
| 11:48.49 | annma | ok, mv ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc.bak |
| 11:49.03 | annma | retry after that |
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| 11:50.24 | xbeanx | in konversation, how do I come back from being 'away' ? |
| 11:50.34 | jeekl | xbeanx: /back |
| 11:50.38 | xbeanx | :) |
| 11:50.41 | xbeanx | thanks |
| 11:50.45 | xbeanx | lol |
| 11:50.54 | jeekl | annma: Konsole hangs. But I get 11896: Warning: ignoring invalid out-of-map direct binding for symbol _ZNK20QWidgetPluginPrivate9canUnloadEv: 0x6a17a8 warnings now. |
| 11:50.58 | jeekl | xbeanx: Np. |
| 11:51.07 | Sho_ | xbeanx: /back or /unaway |
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| 11:53.35 | annma | jeekl: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole ~/.kde/share/apps/konsoleback |
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| 11:56.06 | jeekl | annma: It takes a little longer for konsole to krash now, and I'm getting 12053:-warnings. But some of my customizations still seem to be present with konsol. It started without any border and such, which I have configured it to do, so some conf-file must still be out there somewhere? |
| 11:56.46 | annma | cd ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole |
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| 11:57.45 | annma | ls to see if there's anything and look if ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc is really gone |
| 11:57.48 | jeekl | annma: Nothing in that directory |
| 11:57.54 | annma | look for the rc file |
| 11:59.06 | jeekl | The rc file is gone and the directory is empty. Stillnot doing it. 12220-warnings :-/ |
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| 11:59.43 | annma | but it starts? |
| 11:59.51 | jeekl | starts and hangs |
| 11:59.59 | jeekl | Just like all the times before |
| 12:00.00 | annma | hangs? how come? |
| 12:00.08 | annma | and is it back to defaults? |
| 12:00.19 | sabayonlive-2089 | anyone can help me on beryl? |
| 12:00.38 | annma | sabayonlive-2089: isn't there a beryl channel? |
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| 12:04.45 | jeekl | annma: I dont know why it hangs. And no, it does not return to the defaults. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6cd2xw7 this is what it looks like when it's started |
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| 12:06.18 | annma | jeekl: is .kde not your KDEHOME var? |
| 12:06.43 | annma | do all other KDE apps start OK? |
| 12:07.18 | jeekl | All other kde-apps starts ok. Apparantely neither $KDEHOME nor $KDE is set. |
| 12:07.22 | jeekl | Now that you mention it... |
| 12:07.49 | annma | no need to |
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| 12:08.06 | annma | you have to try a new user |
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| 12:09.34 | jeekl | annma: Okey, I'll have to logout to enter runlevel 5. I'll be back in a few |
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| 12:10.22 | kexman | hi |
| 12:11.04 | kexman | i am using xfce + konqueror :) and somehow my "Configure Konqueror" doesnt show everything, can anyone tell me what am i missing ? i would like to go to plugins settings |
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| 12:12.00 | Simeon_H | start konqueror in konsole and then open Configure |
| 12:12.09 | Simeon_H | well... not in konsole |
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| 12:12.16 | Simeon_H | in whatever xfce has |
| 12:12.17 | kexman | you mean in a terminal ? |
| 12:12.20 | kexman | aha |
| 12:12.30 | kexman | well i am using xfce because of system resources |
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| 12:12.53 | kexman | was using mozzuki ramfox , and decided to give up on it since it sloooowed down my system and it leaks memory so bad |
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| 12:14.50 | kexman | duhh , now my X uses 15% cpu power for no reason |
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| 12:16.31 | kexman | its the same if i start konq from a terminal ... |
| 12:16.38 | kexman | i still cant see to much options |
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| 12:23.06 | kexman | is there something i should start with xfce to make kde applications work more smoothly ? |
| 12:23.21 | kexman | i understood that xfce uses much less resources ... that is why i am using it |
| 12:23.22 | jeekl | annma: Konsole hangs when I'm logging in with different users too |
| 12:23.35 | annma | jeekl: a NEW user? |
| 12:23.36 | mardi_soir | in xfce pannel there is an option to launch kde libs |
| 12:23.46 | kexman | mardi_soir, its all set |
| 12:23.58 | mardi_soir | kdeinit is launched ? |
| 12:24.03 | mardi_soir | pstree to see |
| 12:24.07 | mardi_soir | pstree -Aa |
| 12:24.08 | kexman | mardi_soir, well i set up nspluginwrappers to use flash 9 with kde (64bit linux) |
| 12:24.28 | kexman | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.30 | kexman | yup |
| 12:24.32 | kexman | its running |
| 12:24.35 | kexman | just wanted to ask |
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| 12:25.18 | mardi_soir | shadok_: lo :) |
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| 12:27.05 | kexman | sun jre 1.5-bin java works fine with konqueror |
| 12:27.12 | kexman | and konq is really fast |
| 12:27.13 | kexman | i like it |
| 12:27.31 | kexman | but if i will use sound with konqueror ... does that mean its going to use arts sound deamon ? |
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| 12:30.39 | Sho_ | kexman: Depends on the plugin ... Flash for example uses ALSA |
| 12:31.04 | kexman | well its that i just saw arts running while i was searching for kde with ps |
| 12:31.38 | Sho_ | kexman: Well if you have the sound system enabled in KControl, arts will be running :) |
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| 12:31.57 | kexman | i dont even know where to run kcontrol :) |
| 12:32.03 | Sho_ | from your KMenu |
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| 12:32.50 | kexman | and from where do i reach that ? :) |
| 12:33.20 | Sho_ | The K on your panel :) |
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| 12:34.12 | jeekl | annma: I just created a totally new user and kde won't even start. That prolly meas my entire kde is messed up huh? |
| 12:34.46 | annma | yes |
| 12:35.23 | jeekl | Woho! Reinstallation here I come. :-/ |
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| 12:38.01 | jeekl | annma: Thanks for your help anyway. :-) I really appreciate it. |
| 12:38.14 | annma | yes, too bad I could not fix it though |
| 12:38.20 | annma | good luck |
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| 12:42.46 | Jucato | re...in...stall... :/ |
| 12:42.55 | Jucato | hi annma, hi Sho_! |
| 12:43.14 | annma | hi Jucato :) |
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| 12:44.57 | Jucato | hm.. 6 more hours till mandriva.. hm... |
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| 12:45.58 | Sho_ | hi Jucato |
| 12:46.15 | annma | Jucato: Spring? |
| 12:46.52 | Jucato | annma: yep. |
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| 12:46.59 | annma | wow |
| 12:47.05 | Jucato | it will be my first DVD ISO ever downloaded/used :) |
| 12:47.05 | annma | what is the default kernel? |
| 12:47.20 | Jucato | oh I haven't installed it yet (not even finished downloading :P) |
| 12:47.23 | mefisto|work | poor guy |
| 12:47.25 | Jucato | let me check the logs |
| 12:47.38 | Jucato | mefisto|work: heh :) |
| 12:48.03 | Sho_ | The last time I tried Mandriva was before 2000 I think ... it was very very slow compared to SuSE back then |
| 12:48.12 | jeekl | Does anyone know if rpm has some flag for listing all installed packages without version numbering? rpm -qa lists all packages with version numbers and I can'tseem to find any param in the man file to only print the package name... |
| 12:48.44 | Jucato | jeekl: hm... ask in your distro's channel? |
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| 12:49.43 | Jucato | Sho_: I expected suse to be very slow... surprisingly, it's not as bad as I expected it... (but not that fast either) |
| 12:49.59 | Jucato | of course, I almost always blame myself and my hardware :) |
| 12:50.00 | jeekl | Jucato: Sure. But I guessed some of the people here should be familiar with rpm too. I'll ask there though. |
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| 12:59.51 | sabayonuser | hallo |
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| 13:00.42 | sabayonuser | would appreciate some help please |
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| 13:01.16 | sabayonuser | cannot install the live 3.3 mini |
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| 13:01.30 | annma | the live what? |
| 13:01.34 | Jucato | sabayonuser: ask in #sabayon |
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| 13:01.55 | sabayonuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.56 | annma | ah sabayon invasion |
| 13:02.06 | annma | sabayonuser: #sabayon please |
| 13:02.06 | Jucato | Sho_: looks like your "bug" report hasn't been noticed yet :D |
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| 13:02.21 | sabayonuser | yes there is a bug |
| 13:02.25 | annma | sabayonuser: here we support KDE problems ONLY |
| 13:02.33 | annma | not distro problems |
| 13:02.37 | a9913 | how do i change the modifier keys? i can see them in the control center, but cannot change them |
| 13:02.38 | Jucato | sabayonuser: again, please ask in the #sabayon channel |
| 13:02.41 | Sho_ | Jucato: well I guess they need to get a new version out or something .. |
| 13:02.45 | sabayonuser | ok thanks i am very new |
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| 13:03.11 | sabayonuser | thanks for the info |
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| 13:03.28 | Jucato | Sho_: I don't keep up with their development, so I don't know whether they have released a new version or not :) |
| 13:03.38 | Sho_ | Jucato: me neither |
| 13:04.03 | Jucato | annma: sorry for the late reply, I think kernel 2.6.17 is the default one for spring |
| 13:04.05 | sabayonuser | too bad because it looks rater nice |
| 13:04.38 | sabayonuser | problem seems to be with sata drives I think |
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| 13:16.35 | xushi | hmm, kwallet is not asking me to store smb:// passwords |
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| 13:27.29 | testi_ | both fish: and ftp: filesystems appear in konqueror as non-unicode filesystem. konqueror is started inside a utf-8 environment and the remote servers run in in an utf-8 locales environment too. How can I configure konqueror to display remote locations directories in unicode? |
| 13:27.52 | Sho_ | moin testi_ |
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| 13:27.59 | testi_ | Hi Sho |
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| 13:29.15 | Sho_ | testi_: Somewhat related: In most cases you want to be using sftp: rather than fish:, because it's an actual implementation of the SSH File Transfer protocol whereas fish: is a hack that uses a Perl script and shell commands on the remote box for SSH servers without SFTP support |
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| 13:34.11 | testi_ | Sho, good to know. |
| 13:34.25 | testi_ | But that doesn't solve the problem. |
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| 13:34.42 | Sho_ | Indeed it doesn't, but it seemed prudent to mention |
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| 13:36.45 | kaustav | Hello |
| 13:36.51 | kaustav | I removed the panel at the top |
| 13:36.57 | kaustav | How do I get it back ? |
| 13:37.24 | kaustav | the taskbar panel to be precise |
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| 13:38.02 | kaustav | ?? |
| 13:38.05 | Sho_ | Unlock it and drag it with the mouse, or right-click -> Configure Panel -> Position |
| 13:38.20 | kaustav | its not there.. |
| 13:38.25 | kaustav | I removed it.. |
| 13:38.32 | kaustav | And I can't seem to get it back |
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| 13:39.08 | milliams | kaustav: KControl -> Desktop -> Behaviour -> Menu bar at top of screen |
| 13:39.16 | Sho_ | Right click your panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> Taskbar |
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| 13:39.28 | WindowsUninstall | I've a question |
| 13:39.43 | WindowsUninstall | Does anyone know a good voip client for kde? |
| 13:40.24 | kaustav | umm.. no.. the panel which has the the services listed |
| 13:40.28 | lostson | skype |
| 13:40.31 | testi_ | wengophone, skype |
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| 13:41.55 | WindowsUninstall | Skype is proprietary and it doesn't use a open protocol |
| 13:42.10 | kaustav | ?? the one in which the programs like kmix etc get displayed..?? that panel.. |
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| 13:42.54 | Sho_ | kaustav: Right click your panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray |
| 13:42.59 | Jucato | he's gone :) |
| 13:43.16 | Sho_ | Support favors the patient |
| 13:44.20 | lostson | that never happens Jucato |
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| 13:44.38 | Jucato | oh, sure... |
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| 13:47.01 | testi_ | in that case, i'd support them into the direction they think of until they find out, that they're wrong.. |
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| 13:50.38 | kexman | kexman 27935 0.0 2.0 49928 10604 ? SL 15:38 0:01 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f |
| 13:50.50 | kexman | does that mean that user kexman is using artsd as sound demon ? |
| 13:50.57 | kexman | i am running xfce + konqueror |
| 13:51.16 | Sho_ | That means kexman's running an artsd process |
| 13:51.35 | Sho_ | Whether you're using it or not is unrelated to that |
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| 13:52.48 | xushi | is there a way to tell kwallet to save the password for my smb:// url in kfmclient ? |
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| 13:57.13 | picca | has anyone here had a problem with browsing workgroups, shares, etc via the smb:/ |
| 13:57.24 | picca | i am using kde 3.5.6 and samba 3.0.24 |
| 13:57.41 | picca | it works if talk directly to a machine, but browsing doesn't seem possible |
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| 14:01.19 | Eruantalon | IS there being done anything and can there be done anything about the way kde reacts to faulty network connection? If amarok can't connect to my mounted smb shares it freezes itself kde and all of the xserver (keypresses etc.) This seems like bad design more than it seems to be a bug... Do you know where the problem lies? Is it a kernel level problem, kde or xorg? |
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| 14:02.28 | xushi | picca: works here.. unfortunatley you can't mount them though |
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| 14:02.59 | picca | xushi: so you are always able to browse other computers on the network? |
| 14:03.12 | xushi | yes |
| 14:03.18 | xushi | provided they allow me to |
| 14:03.26 | xushi | and after i authenticate myself with my domain user/passwd |
| 14:03.43 | xushi | smb://Domain\user@computer/folder |
| 14:03.51 | xushi | or smb://Domain\user@computer |
| 14:03.55 | picca | i am just wanting a simple home network with no authentication |
| 14:04.04 | picca | the browsing seems to work randomly |
| 14:04.24 | picca | sometimes if i do a refresh all the computers appear, then most of the time they don't - seems random |
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| 14:06.15 | xushi | hmm |
| 14:06.34 | xushi | i guess you could give #samba a try |
| 14:06.40 | picca | yeah i think so |
| 14:06.44 | picca | thanks for your help |
| 14:07.15 | xlotlu | picca: maybe it gets picky because of the lack of autenthication? |
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| 14:07.58 | picca | but shouldn't it browse regardless of authentication |
| 14:08.41 | xushi | see if you get the same results with smbtree |
| 14:09.02 | picca | smbtree shows only my machine |
| 14:09.24 | picca | all firewalls are switched off as well |
| 14:10.43 | xushi | anyone knows how to store smb:// passwords in kwallet? or anywhere else i kde ? |
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| 14:15.39 | Eruantalon | IS there being done anything and can there be done anything about the way kde reacts to faulty network connection? If amarok can't connect to my mounted smb shares it freezes itself kde and all of the xserver (keypresses etc.) This seems like bad design more than it seems to be a bug... Do you know where the problem lies? Is it a kernel level problem, kde or xorg? |
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| 15:28.58 | ePax | how do i turn off firestarter |
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| 15:29.19 | annma | is it a kde app? |
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| 15:30.00 | Jucato | it isn't |
| 15:30.16 | ePax | no it isnt but i use it in kde |
| 15:30.18 | annma | ePax: ask in your distro channel please |
| 15:30.25 | annma | here we support KDE app |
| 15:30.28 | annma | s |
| 15:30.31 | ePax | k |
| 15:30.33 | Jucato | (firestarter == GNOME) && (guarddog == KDE) |
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| 15:31.25 | annma | I did not bother to google it |
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| 15:31.55 | ePax | does guarddog support ipv6? |
| 15:31.55 | Jucato | ePax: hm... I use wine on KDE... doesn't really mean I should be asking wine stuff here :) |
| 15:31.55 | Jucato | or rather "used to use"... |
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| 15:32.16 | Jucato | annma: I don't know how to use either. but I just remember which is which :) |
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| 15:32.58 | ePax | I use KDE... since guarddog is KDE app i just aksed if it support ipv6 |
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| 15:34.22 | Jucato | ePax: googling for the answer... |
| 15:34.22 | Jucato | annma: seems like Sime (Simon Edwards) is the author of guarddog... |
| 15:34.40 | Jucato | ePax: I don't think it currently does |
| 15:34.57 | ePax | Jucato: oki.... thnx |
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| 15:54.22 | JohnMS_WORK | How does cervisia know when to use ssh as opposed to rsh? |
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| 16:39.39 | gstnet | Hello kde, When I am open and edit remote file with kate, opened through konqueror window, i have to close the kate in order to see (upload file) dialog. Is there a way to have remote file be saved when it is saved in kate ? |
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| 16:49.08 | jelly-home | Hi, how do I disable KDE's SEGV handler? |
| 16:51.10 | PhilRod | jelly-home: $KDEAPPLICATION --nocrashhanlder |
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| 17:00.47 | jelly-home | PhilRod: thanks, it worked |
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| 17:02.31 | c00lfon | Hi. How to limit up/down speed in ktorrent 2.1.4? |
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| 17:03.52 | Desintegr | c00lfon: with options |
| 17:04.36 | c00lfon | Ouh, I see. Sorry and thanks. ;D |
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| 17:08.17 | whitebread | what's the command to see the kde menu? |
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| 17:10.21 | PhilRod | whitebread: if you're looking for a way to show the k menu from the command line, take a look at dcop |
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| 17:13.02 | atidem | ciao! |
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| 17:20.39 | boow | i got kde 3.5.4 with slackware kscreensaver is not starting i just get blank screen but when i test the screensavers they work |
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| 17:21.34 | PhilRod | boow: try changing the power management settings. Does that help? I've seen bug reports with that problem |
| 17:21.53 | boow | ok i'll give it a try |
| 17:22.06 | boow | thx |
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| 17:38.11 | viktor | hi i'm on kubuntu feisty. is there a way to disable the feature that adds numbers and letters to links in konqueror when i press ctrl? |
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| 17:59.30 | fanti | > hi there! my fonts are a way too big! after installation of kdebase and kdm all looked very good. installing some further packages like koffice, openoffice.org... firefox... my fonts enlarged in a very ugly way :( where does this come from? |
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| 18:01.00 | mariux | just go to kcontrol and make them smaller |
| 18:01.05 | Alethes | haven't you heard? KDE has decided to be the desktop specifically for the visually impaired. |
| 18:01.07 | Alethes | :D |
| 18:01.13 | mariux | alt+F2: Fonts |
| 18:01.17 | MinceR | maybe your Xft.dpi setting got changed magically |
| 18:01.35 | MinceR | iirc the Fonts dialog has that too |
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| 18:02.33 | Sho_ | gnome-settings-daemon, when started, likes to change the DPI xprop - most likely he ran some Gnome app |
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| 18:08.14 | exw | does anyone know of a KTorrent chanel? |
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| 18:08.31 | Alethes | #kde works pretty good |
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| 18:08.45 | exw | hehe ;-) |
| 18:08.51 | Sho_ | exw: They have a very active web forum too |
| 18:08.54 | piztek | anyone have any experience or knowledge about kooldock or ksmoothdock on amd64 etch? |
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| 18:09.01 | fanti | http://fanti.staff.spin.de/konsole_bigfont.png |
| 18:09.02 | fanti | what is wrong here? |
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| 18:09.40 | fanti | all looked fine after installation of kdebase. adding some more packages like openoffice.org, koffice.... firefox.... etc my font goes a way too big?? |
| 18:09.57 | fanti | while no font-setting (like from kcontrol) was changed! |
| 18:10.02 | annma | did you set them in KControl? |
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| 18:10.30 | annma | your diestro changed something maybe |
| 18:11.02 | annma | what distro? |
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| 18:11.11 | piztek | well does anyone use kooldock or ksmoothdock? |
| 18:11.44 | vbgunz | when I right click a file copy it and then paste it's url into a file, I get the "file://" prefix. is there a setting to turn that prefixing off? |
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| 18:13.22 | refresh | when I resize the screen (say with ``krandrtray'' I sometimes get a black square artifact (around 50 by 50 pixels) in the top-left of the video. but the square is not really there. as soon as I try to take an image with ksnapshot, this artifact disappears. |
| 18:14.08 | wolsni | refresh: sounds like a driver problem |
| 18:14.25 | wolsni | and a relatively tolerable one at that :) |
| 18:14.25 | exw | Alethes / Sho_ Just wanted to say that i've tried just about every bittorrent client out there and they all sucked for me ( download speed ). I just installed KTorrent and I am getting great download speeds!( 30KB for my cable "light" ) I was just wondering why, since all the other clients complained about closed ports. as far as i can tell i have KTorrents default TCP/UDP ports closed... |
| 18:14.27 | refresh | if nothing else, how could I automatically trigger the screen-refresh of ksnapshot? |
| 18:14.28 | exw | ...with my software firewall ( fedora ) but it still works great. Is KTorrent punching through those ports with no configuration needed on my part? |
| 18:14.54 | Sho_ | exw: KTorrent has UPnP support, so it probably automatically talked to your router and opened the ports |
| 18:14.55 | Alethes | exw: upnp |
| 18:15.29 | wolsni | exw: KTorrent has UPnP support :) |
| 18:15.40 | refresh | what might ksnapshot be doing to redraw the screen. right-click and "refresh desktop" does not remove the black-square-artifact? |
| 18:15.44 | Skrot- | And not to mention; KTorrent supports UPnP! |
| 18:15.49 | Alethes | haha |
| 18:15.51 | exw | Alethes / Sho_ I have no router , just a cable modem ( or is the modem a router also ? ) |
| 18:16.03 | Skrot- | Modems often has a built-in router |
| 18:16.04 | refresh | (I mean to put the questtion mark on the first sentence above) |
| 18:16.04 | Sho_ | it might be |
| 18:16.25 | Skrot- | You can see if KTorrent detected any UPnP devices in the configuration-dialog |
| 18:17.05 | wolsni | of course, if exw is running Fedora (like he said he is) then he has iptables blocking incoming connections by default |
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| 18:19.49 | exw | Alethes / Sho_ : plugins show ( upnpplugin staus not loaded ) weird |
| 18:20.01 | Alethes | heh |
| 18:20.27 | wolsni | maybe it has to do with DHT |
| 18:20.43 | wolsni | which KTorrent uses by default |
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| 18:21.52 | Sho_ | oh cool, Nuvola now in kdeartwork |
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| 18:22.09 | exw | wolsni: i see |
| 18:22.30 | refresh | I noticed thet the screen doesn't change when you draw a region of text with ksnapshot. how does ksnapshot achieve this temporary screen-freeze? |
| 18:22.37 | wolsni | exw: what other clients had you tried? |
| 18:24.03 | exw | wolsni: azureus transmission bittorrent aria2 ... and more |
| 18:24.30 | wolsni | hm, azureus does DHT as well |
| 18:25.03 | wolsni | not sure about transmission and the official client |
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| 18:26.49 | exw | wolsni: well i've been trying to get azureus to work for me ( get a half decent download speed ) for two years with no luck... i always thought it was my provider throttling torrents... i gues not... yay to KTorrent!!! |
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| 18:27.09 | wolsni | yay to ktorrent indeed |
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| 18:29.30 | DexterF | hi |
| 18:29.46 | DexterF | I upgraded freetype to 2.3.4, obviously from current by accident |
| 18:29.59 | DexterF | I just can't figure which version I had *before* |
| 18:30.20 | wolsni | DexterF: ask in your distro channel |
| 18:30.34 | DexterF | duh. didn't switch tabs, my fault :P |
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| 18:30.44 | wolsni | np |
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| 18:41.39 | dealer | i'm getting the following error while trying to decrypt a email with kmail "Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data. Error: Bad passphrase but it doesn't ask for the password |
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| 18:42.23 | dealer | how can i fix that? |
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| 18:44.35 | Alethes | is kmail set to remember the password and holding an invalid password? |
| 18:44.58 | nik7 | no? |
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| 18:45.16 | dealer | but it asks the passphrase to encrypt and it's correct.. |
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| 18:45.43 | dealer | and i don't have a gpg-agent.conf too |
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| 18:46.00 | dealer | could be that? |
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| 18:47.34 | vbgunz | Konqueror does not support a group view does it? |
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| 18:48.00 | vbgunz | alphabetically sorted files under groups by e.g., filetype |
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| 18:49.46 | PhilRod | vbgunz: you can sort by type, but it doesn't "group" them visually, just changes the order |
| 18:50.04 | PhilRod | I think there's work going on to include such visual grouping in kde 4 though |
| 18:50.28 | vbgunz | PhilRod: yeah, I see that, would be super cool if it had it though. KDE 4, heh, awesome :) |
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| 18:52.10 | Alethes | I really hope KDE4 is everything it sounds like it's gonna be :) |
| 18:52.23 | Alethes | I might get violent if I'm let down or something :D |
| 18:52.36 | dealer | it's not you eheh |
| 18:52.42 | dealer | only* |
| 18:52.49 | Alethes | there's just so much hype |
| 18:53.02 | dealer | oh yeah |
| 18:53.02 | Alethes | it sounds like it's going to do everything correctly |
| 18:53.14 | icwiener | Yeah, it will make you healthy, pay your bills and make you more attractive for the opposite sex. |
| 18:53.14 | Alethes | haha |
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| 18:53.25 | vbgunz | I agree, it does sound orgasmic in a sense huh |
| 18:53.26 | dealer | hehe |
| 18:53.30 | Alethes | I might wait for 4.1 just to avoid the frustration of a buggy 4.0 |
| 18:53.32 | wolsni | o_O |
| 18:54.27 | annma | Alethes: that would be wise |
| 18:54.30 | picca | it made me laugh how people seemed so dissapointed by the KDE4 live cd - what do they expect? work is going on under the hood |
| 18:54.41 | annma | what people? |
| 18:54.46 | picca | osnews.com |
| 18:54.54 | annma | THOSE people? |
| 18:54.56 | Sho_ | osnews.com ist essentially a Gnome love orgy |
| 18:55.00 | Sho_ | always has been |
| 18:55.05 | Sho_ | *is |
| 18:55.08 | vbgunz | heh |
| 18:55.09 | picca | there were lots of people on OSNews slating kde4 livecd |
| 18:55.13 | annma | picca: probably 99% did not even look at the thing |
| 18:55.24 | annma | picca: of course they are |
| 18:55.41 | annma | they always shot on something, preferably KDE |
| 18:55.42 | picca | annma: agreed - they just looked at the screen shots in the article |
| 18:55.58 | annma | just never mention them HERE ok? |
| 18:56.03 | annma | NEVER |
| 18:56.15 | picca | osnews has changed a lot over the years. |
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| 18:56.24 | dealer | Alethes: is that necessary have the gpg-agent running? |
| 18:56.38 | Alethes | dealer: I think so, but I can't remember |
| 18:56.42 | Alethes | it just works for me (at home) |
| 18:56.46 | Alethes | I'm at work now and not using gpg |
| 18:56.59 | picca | never mention them HERE annma? |
| 18:57.12 | annma | NEVER again |
| 18:57.17 | annma | just joking picca |
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| 18:57.23 | Alethes | what are we not mentioning? :) |
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| 18:57.29 | annma | THEM |
| 18:57.29 | dealer | because it prints that can't connect because s S.gpg-agent can't be found |
| 18:57.30 | vbgunz | I manned over the gpg file, wow, so many options it isn't funny :( |
| 18:57.30 | picca | ah got you |
| 18:57.34 | picca | those people |
| 18:57.37 | picca | the others |
| 18:57.37 | benJIman | OStrolls.com |
| 18:57.46 | annma | lol |
| 18:57.48 | Alethes | ah |
| 18:57.50 | Alethes | haha |
| 18:57.54 | picca | like in Lost |
| 18:58.05 | annma | Others |
| 18:58.19 | annma | is that it? I never watched Lost |
| 18:58.24 | dealer | Alethes: do you have any idea? |
| 18:58.39 | picca | i am forced to watch it |
| 18:58.41 | Alethes | dealer: I would assume that gpg-agent needs to be running |
| 18:59.02 | dealer | but i have this problem when i try to run it |
| 18:59.21 | picca | gawd htop is good |
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| 19:00.44 | wolsni | picca: forced as in you dislike the show? |
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| 19:01.08 | picca | wolsni: you sound surprised? |
| 19:01.30 | picca | wolsni: i liked the first few episodes |
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| 19:01.53 | wolsni | most people i talk to think lost is a pretty great show |
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| 19:02.09 | picca | wolsni: it seems to have a cult following |
| 19:02.26 | wolsni | i like it too, but I don't talk to myself most of the time ;) |
| 19:02.28 | picca | wolsni: i liked it to begin with |
| 19:02.38 | picca | lol wolsni |
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| 19:03.28 | PhilRod | wolsni: you're missing out - talking to oneself is both useful and rewarding :-) |
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| 19:03.47 | picca | some of my best conversations have been with myself |
| 19:03.57 | picca | anyone listening? :) |
| 19:04.00 | wolsni | i stick to nonverbal mental communications |
| 19:04.15 | picca | i hear you wolsni |
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| 19:07.21 | anbizu | Hey all. My keyboard stops working in KDE, seemingly at random. It could be after 10 minutes, or after 3 hours, whether I'm coding in vim, using gimp, or whatever. The logfiles aren't much help. Restarting KDE works, but is less than ideal, obviously. Anyone know what might cause this? |
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| 19:07.29 | dealer | i'm reading the gentoo gnupg guide, it says to use gnupg 1.9.20, but the amd64 stable version is 1.9.21, and gpg-agent has some problems to start with 1.9.21, is it the version? |
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| 19:07.53 | anbizu | gentoo / kde 3.5.6* |
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| 19:08.55 | annma | anbizu: your keyboard stops working: what happens exactly? |
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| 19:09.50 | PhilRod | anbizu: are you using xgl or beryl or something experimental like that? |
| 19:10.08 | anbizu | I can smash any button and there is no response from KDE. it just stops caring lol. |
| 19:10.26 | anbizu | PhilRod, no just xorg 7.2 / kde 3.5.6 :) |
| 19:10.32 | PhilRod | there are one or two "keyboard stops working" bugs reported at bugs.kde.org - I recall an amarok one and a khotkeys one. Do you use either of those? |
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| 19:11.38 | anbizu | hmm khotkeys is installed, but I don't see it running. nice find, lemme look into that |
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| 19:14.24 | wolsni | picca: http://www.pvponline.com/article/3257/wed-apr-11 (on the topic of Lost) |
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| 19:16.36 | picca | lol wolsni |
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| 19:16.52 | x_link | nvidia-settings --> OpenGL/GLX Information --> Miscellaneous, "Disable use of enhanced CPU instruction sets". What exactly is that and should I check that? |
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| 19:17.06 | picca | wow i just found commander keen for linux |
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| 19:17.45 | MinceR | a linux port? |
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| 19:18.21 | annma | picca: yes? |
| 19:18.24 | annma | I loved Keen |
| 19:18.27 | annma | Keen Dreams |
| 19:18.30 | picca | MinceR: it claims to support Linux |
| 19:18.31 | annma | and all |
| 19:18.43 | picca | i hope this compiles |
| 19:18.52 | annma | URL!!! |
| 19:19.07 | annma | it's almost a KDE app, starting with a K |
| 19:19.22 | picca | http://clonekeen.sourceforge.net/#download |
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| 19:19.41 | picca | what a good idea, Keen the KDE app |
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| 19:20.02 | picca | you remember the pogo stick |
| 19:20.05 | annma | thanks picca, you're forgiven to have mentioned YouKnowWho |
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| 19:20.10 | annma | yes the pogo |
| 19:20.17 | annma | to go to the moon |
| 19:20.22 | picca | thank you |
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| 19:20.41 | picca | if this doesn't work i might install a dos emulator and download keen |
| 19:21.03 | MinceR | cool |
| 19:23.21 | PhilRod | anbizu: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137288 |
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| 19:26.26 | Fri13 | Is there channel for kde-games? |
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| 19:28.46 | sebbar | Fri13: #kdegames |
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| 19:36.35 | fairman | Hi, how can i remove links below my folder with bookmarks in Konqueror? (I have my bookmarks and then is separator and then "Add Bookmark" etc....) |
| 19:37.27 | wolsni | fairman: go to the bookmarks menu and choose "Manage Bookmarks" |
| 19:37.54 | fairman | Yes, i am ready |
| 19:38.09 | wolsni | you can use ctrl+click or shift+click in the manager to select multiple items |
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| 19:38.46 | wolsni | ctrl+click toggles whether an item is selected or not |
| 19:39.28 | wolsni | shift+click selects everything between the most recently selected item and the one you click |
| 19:39.29 | fairman | wolsni: But i want to remove system links (Add bookmark, bookmark as folder ...) |
| 19:39.42 | wolsni | oh, I see |
| 19:40.05 | wolsni | i don't think you can remove those |
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| 19:40.13 | wolsni | why would you want to? |
| 19:40.41 | fairman | wolsni: Because they are redundant, i do not need it everywhere .... :) |
| 19:40.55 | wolsni | they're not redundant |
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| 19:43.15 | fairman | wolsni: This is query of opinion :) I do not need them there, i have these options in main toolbar ... |
| 19:43.32 | wolsni | fairman: but they do different things |
| 19:43.52 | wolsni | the ones in the submenus create new items in the submenus |
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| 19:44.20 | wolsni | hence, they are definitely not redundant |
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| 19:45.32 | fairman | wolsni: Yes, but i can manage it throught Manager of Bookmarks and creating bookmarks is not everyday work |
| 19:46.43 | Anarky | I agree with fairman, but I don't think it's possible to remove them |
| 19:46.52 | wolsni | if you want that feature to show up, post a wish at bugs.kde.org |
| 19:47.07 | wolsni | or better yet, code it up yourself ;) |
| 19:48.46 | fairman | wolsni: Thanks Anarky :), i am afraid, i am not able to working in C++, only PHP :) I will post it, maybe, they have sure a lot of another work ... |
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| 19:49.37 | raboof | the kde crash handler is showing me lines 6-26 of the stacktrace. How do I get it to show 1-5? |
| 19:49.42 | wolsni | fairman: it'll probably be marked as a 'junior job' for newbie hackers |
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| 19:50.35 | fairman | wolsni: How much people are working for Konqueror? |
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| 19:51.55 | pinotree | raboof: they are probably inner stacks of kdebug |
| 19:52.33 | exw | does noatun play movie/mpeg files?.. i've got multimedia-nonfree |
| 19:53.06 | fairman | wolsni: ok, have a nice day and thanks for you time |
| 19:53.23 | wolsni | noatun should be able to handle videos, I think |
| 19:55.27 | wolsni | exw: it can here, anyway :) |
| 19:56.01 | exw | wolsni: whenever i open a video it does'nt play... the reason i was trying it is KTorrent uses it to "preview" |
| 19:56.36 | wolsni | exw: actually, KTorrent uses your default player for the filetype |
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| 19:56.55 | exw | wolsni: ok |
| 19:56.57 | wolsni | so you can change that if you like |
| 19:57.07 | exw | allright |
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| 19:58.27 | wolsni | works fine here though |
| 19:59.19 | wolsni | of course, maybe noatun gets confused when you try to play an incomplete file |
| 20:00.19 | exw | wolsni: intetresting... i get "Could not load library! Trying exec.... kdeinit: Launched KDED, pid = 4353 result = 0" when trying to play a file with noatun from the command line |
| 20:00.50 | wolsni | o_O |
| 20:01.28 | wolsni | sounds like your distro broke it |
| 20:01.46 | wolsni | can you play any files at all in noatun? |
| 20:02.05 | exw | wolsni: no |
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| 20:02.43 | exw | wolsni: ok, don't hate me ;-) i'm doing all this from within gnome |
| 20:03.29 | wolsni | exw: being in Gnome shouldn't cause problems |
| 20:03.40 | exw | :-) |
| 20:03.43 | wolsni | it just makes me question your taste :P |
| 20:03.49 | exw | hehe |
| 20:04.37 | wolsni | exw: probably the easiest workaround is to set a different player as default |
| 20:04.56 | exw | wolsni: ok |
| 20:05.08 | exw | well, i'm finding i'm using more and more kde programs all the time... |
| 20:05.08 | wolsni | but you should probably send your distro a bug report too |
| 20:05.22 | exw | ok |
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| 20:05.42 | wolsni | exw: KDE players include kaffeine, kplayer, kmplayer |
| 20:06.17 | exw | ok, i'll try one of those |
| 20:06.26 | wolsni | I think there one called kodeine too but I can't speak to its featureset or stability |
| 20:06.34 | wolsni | *there's |
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| 20:08.40 | PhinnFort | codeine |
| 20:08.45 | PhinnFort | codeine pwns |
| 20:08.46 | PhinnFort | :D |
| 20:09.12 | straw | i like that it doesn't start with a k :) |
| 20:09.25 | PhinnFort | in kde4 i think it's called "video player" |
| 20:09.29 | PhinnFort | if they haven't changed it;) |
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| 20:09.56 | wolsni | hm? |
| 20:10.14 | wolsni | they're going with the GNOME naming conventions? |
| 20:10.24 | PhinnFort | no |
| 20:10.54 | PhinnFort | the developer couldn't come up with a fancy-pancy name, so he/she named it temporarely to something easy recogniseable, i believe;) |
| 20:10.54 | straw | just not with keverything conventions |
| 20:11.47 | wolsni | um, calling it "Video Player" instead of giving it a distinctive name is a very GNOME-y thing to do |
| 20:11.54 | davi | Does Umbrello 1.5 support UML 2.0 ? |
| 20:12.24 | PhinnFort | well, in KDE the names weren't supposed to be shown anywhere, afaik |
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| 20:13.05 | PhinnFort | what you call gnome "names" sounds like descriptions |
| 20:13.58 | wolsni | yes, they do |
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| 20:13.58 | PhinnFort | well, they do now, but originally |
| 20:14.20 | wolsni | it's configurable |
| 20:14.35 | exw | yah the "description only" sucks in gnome... name and description would be much better |
| 20:14.47 | wolsni | but my 'yes, they do' was in response to <PhinnFort> what you call gnome "names" sounds like descriptions |
| 20:14.52 | PhinnFort | exw: or like in KDe, where you can choose youself |
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| 20:15.06 | exw | :-) |
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| 20:15.23 | PhinnFort | (shift slipped away) |
| 20:15.25 | PhinnFort | ;) |
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| 20:17.32 | jlowell | i know i can use it in kde, but i'd rather not install all the gnome deps |
| 20:17.45 | jlowell | is there anything like avant-window-navigator for kde? |
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| 20:18.03 | wolsni | an OS X-style dock? |
| 20:18.06 | PhinnFort | like kxdocker et al? |
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| 20:18.11 | PhinnFort | ad infinitum |
| 20:18.22 | exw | will the "file associations" settings in Konqueror change things accross all kde applications? because it does not appear to be working |
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| 20:18.29 | PhinnFort | a couple of stand-alones and a huge pile of superkaramba applets |
| 20:18.29 | exw | for me |
| 20:18.34 | wolsni | exw: it should, yes |
| 20:19.02 | PhinnFort | jlowell: it looks like a dumbed down kicker;) |
| 20:19.03 | exw | maybe kde under gnome in fedora core 6 is just terribly broken |
| 20:19.05 | jlowell | wolsni: something for taskbar like stuff |
| 20:19.20 | PhinnFort | http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/ ? |
| 20:19.34 | wolsni | jlowell: PhinnFort has posted plenty of suggestions |
| 20:20.02 | wolsni | exw: hm, I'm using KDE on FC6 and that works fine for me |
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| 20:20.17 | jlowell | PhinnFort: what do you recommend? |
| 20:20.23 | PhinnFort | jlowell: kicker |
| 20:20.36 | wolsni | maybe it requires that you restart the app if you're not in a full KDE session? |
| 20:20.39 | jlowell | ok |
| 20:20.44 | PhinnFort | jlowell: and then you can customize it into the darkest corners of your mind |
| 20:20.44 | wolsni | exw: ^^ |
| 20:20.58 | jlowell | is kde 4 going to be that much different than 3.5 ? |
| 20:21.06 | PhinnFort | jlowell: yes |
| 20:21.23 | PhinnFort | jlowell: huge parts of KDE has been rewritten/replaced |
| 20:21.31 | jlowell | whats the deal with it PhinnFort? coolest changes... |
| 20:21.42 | wolsni | jlowell: the major version bump is pretty much defined as "Much different" :) |
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| 20:22.12 | PhinnFort | jlowell: I'm not even a dev, and there's too much to condense into IRC;) |
| 20:22.16 | PhinnFort | look at dot.kde.org |
| 20:22.19 | jlowell | k |
| 20:22.23 | PhinnFort | some nice articles there |
| 20:22.31 | exw | wolsni: using configure in Konqueror, i've set avi's to open in vlc first ( from the list ) but it still opens up noatun |
| 20:23.02 | wolsni | um, thought you said they were MPG's? |
| 20:23.18 | PhinnFort | jlowell: http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&q=The+Road+to+KDE+4+site%3Adot.kde.org&btnG=S8k&meta= |
| 20:23.30 | jlowell | thx |
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| 20:26.26 | exw | wolsni: i also tried playing local mpegs too ( no luck )... but i'm also trying to "preview" avi's through Ktorrent, and KTorrent continues to open noatun, when i selected avi's to open in VLC in Konqueror |
| 20:26.42 | exw | i'm removing noatun |
| 20:27.06 | wolsni | you can't remove just noatun in fedora |
| 20:27.50 | wolsni | I'd try restarting ktorrent maybe |
| 20:28.11 | exw | wolsni: i'll try that again |
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| 20:29.09 | DawnLight | does noatun support codecs for various video, like wmv? |
| 20:29.15 | PhinnFort | kbuildsycoca, maybe |
| 20:30.53 | DawnLight | i'm currently using kmplayer with mplayer as a backend for video |
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| 20:30.55 | picca | does anyone know if there is a /etc/skel equivalent for kde |
| 20:30.55 | litb | is there a way to set a environment variable for startkde ? |
| 20:30.56 | wolsni | noatun can't play wmv's here |
| 20:30.56 | litb | i use kdm as display manager |
| 20:31.07 | litb | and want startkde to load beryl instead of kwin |
| 20:31.12 | PhinnFort | litb: i think it depends on your distro |
| 20:31.15 | litb | so i want to adjust KDEWIN |
| 20:31.22 | PhinnFort | but look in the beryl wiki, i think it's mentioned there |
| 20:31.44 | nikolavp | is there a way to integrate konversation and spellcheck |
| 20:31.47 | bsdfox | mplayer woot |
| 20:31.59 | nikolavp | i checked google and saw some bugreports so there should be an option for this |
| 20:32.10 | wolsni | nikolavp: it autochecks for me |
| 20:32.23 | nikolavp | wolsni: and how did u make that :) |
| 20:32.35 | wolsni | it's the default here |
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| 20:32.56 | wolsni | try right-clicking in the text field |
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| 20:33.42 | nikolavp | no :( |
| 20:34.01 | PhinnFort | yes: |
| 20:34.03 | PhinnFort | :) |
| 20:34.17 | nikolavp | there isnt an option for this in the menu |
| 20:34.25 | wolsni | the context menu has a checkbox for 'check spelling' in mine |
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| 20:34.37 | PhinnFort | "Auto Spell Check" it says here |
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| 20:34.46 | litb | hmm, are things in .kde/env run before KDEWIN is looked at? |
| 20:34.55 | wolsni | PhinnFort: yeah, I have both |
| 20:35.08 | litb | and, if i set KDEWIN to something, is that honored in startkde ? |
| 20:35.21 | nikolavp | and where did u see that context menu |
| 20:35.24 | nikolavp | :O |
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| 20:35.46 | wolsni | nikolavp: I said, right click in the text field |
| 20:36.20 | nikolavp | omg |
| 20:36.22 | hads | litb: Should be. |
| 20:36.30 | nikolavp | i wasn't looking where i should |
| 20:36.34 | nikolavp | thanks alot wolsni |
| 20:36.42 | hads | litb: Why not just put beryl-manager in .kde/Autostart |
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| 20:37.47 | litb | because here that does not work somehow |
| 20:37.52 | litb | i don't know why |
| 20:38.07 | litb | i think it is because it thinks it crashes on kde logout |
| 20:38.09 | exw | wolsni: I've removed noatun from the list in the file association, and even though I have set Mplayer and VLC higher than Totem, previe in KTorrent open Totem... it's working ( playing the file ) but ofcource it is not opening the ap that i set as the default:VLC |
| 20:38.15 | litb | so, the next time it uses kwin |
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| 20:38.56 | litb | and, additionaly, that way it would first start kwin, just to start beryl again some seconds later |
| 20:39.01 | litb | that's just stupid |
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| 20:40.52 | PhilRod | hrm, if only litb had hung around for five minutes more, he could've found out that it's KDEWM not KDEWIN |
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| 20:42.01 | annma | PhilRod: in a kde doc, I have a list with word: definition |
| 20:42.07 | annma | how would I mark up Word so it stands out a bit please? |
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| 20:42.45 | bsdfox | italics or bold or underline? |
| 20:42.47 | PhilRod | <variablelist><varlistentry><term>Word</><listitem><para>Definition</></></></> |
| 20:42.48 | PhinnFort | ;) |
| 20:42.56 | PhinnFort | i will never leave before you're able to say something important. |
| 20:43.01 | PhinnFort | :D |
| 20:43.04 | PhilRod | lol PhinnFort |
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| 20:43.52 | PhilRod | annma: I don't remember how that gets formatted, but it's the semantically correct thing to use |
| 20:44.14 | PhilRod | and of course, you can't really write "</>", I'm just being lazy :-) |
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| 20:45.03 | litb | yeah, that just works |
| 20:45.07 | litb | and is much cleaner |
| 20:45.18 | litb | and faster |
| 20:45.52 | PhilRod | litb: the environment variable you wanted was KDEWM, not KDEWIN |
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| 20:47.26 | annma | thanks PhilRod |
| 20:47.29 | litb | yes, i realized that when it had not started :) |
| 20:47.38 | PhinnFort | ;) |
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| 20:52.50 | dpc | hi |
| 20:52.54 | PhilRod | hi dpc |
| 20:52.59 | dpc | my last resort |
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| 20:53.51 | dpc | i'm here to ask about problem - i can enter diacretic (polish) letters in KDE, but not in non-KDE apps; like gimp |
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| 20:54.19 | Alethes | that support has to be set up for gtk separately, doesn't it? |
| 20:54.33 | dpc | well ... probably |
| 20:54.34 | PhinnFort | scim or something? |
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| 20:54.48 | dpc | but do i have to install whole gnome :/ ? |
| 20:54.55 | Alethes | doubtful |
| 20:55.05 | PhinnFort | what is the default kde cd player? |
| 20:55.09 | Alethes | pango is what supports that in gtk, so I imagine gtk can deal with it somehow |
| 20:55.20 | Alethes | since all I know is English, it's hard for me to help :) |
| 20:55.39 | PhinnFort | well, I use norwegian, but I don't use Gnome apps |
| 20:55.40 | PhinnFort | ;) |
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| 20:55.56 | dpc | PhinnFort: not even gimp ? |
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| 20:56.00 | Alethes | :o |
| 20:56.05 | PhinnFort | dpc: not so much anymore |
| 20:56.06 | Alethes | I was just gonna ask the same thing |
| 20:56.10 | PhinnFort | prefer Krita, actually |
| 20:56.23 | PhinnFort | 16-bit colorspace, uzw (like I would ever actually use it;)) |
| 20:56.27 | dpc | yeah, i prefer krita too, but gimp is still what i'm used too |
| 20:56.42 | PhinnFort | well, i tried Xara, I think it's a GTK app |
| 20:56.42 | Alethes | I haven't used krita much |
| 20:56.47 | Alethes | is it pretty mature now? |
| 20:56.57 | PhinnFort | and Inkscape, whenever Karbon acts up on me |
| 20:57.02 | PhinnFort | Alethes: not bad |
| 20:57.23 | dpc | f*k it ... I install whole gnome |
| 20:57.35 | dpc | why, god, oh why ... |
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| 20:59.25 | PhinnFort | you're maybe a masochist |
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| 21:00.29 | PhilRod | you're better off asking in #gnome for help with gnome apps |
| 21:00.33 | PhilRod | or #gtk for gtk apps |
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| 21:04.17 | dpc | well - i'll try that |
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| 21:08.59 | DawnLight | so noatun doesn't use kodecs? |
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| 21:10.22 | DawnLight | look what happens after a while using kde... i wrote kodecs |
| 21:11.05 | DawnLight | things are much nicer starting with a K |
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| 21:12.04 | dpc | Kondoms ain't nicer even with K at the begining |
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| 21:16.18 | nick01 | where is the setting to get bigger icons on desktop ? the setting in kpersonalizer I think it was |
| 21:16.32 | nick01 | (in kcontrol) |
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| 21:19.12 | PhilRod | nick01: control center-> appearance & themes -> icons |
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| 21:20.30 | nick01 | PhilRod: the double size pixel thing ? that makes the desktop icons way too big |
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| 21:20.56 | PhilRod | nick01: the "size" box? |
| 21:21.10 | nick01 | ohh |
| 21:21.13 | nick01 | size 32 ? |
| 21:21.31 | nick01 | which size is the big size kpersonalizer sets ? |
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| 21:23.14 | nick01 | must be 48 cause 64 is too much |
| 21:23.29 | nick01 | tks |
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| 21:36.04 | whitebread | whats the command that gives you a gui where you can edit kde?? |
| 21:36.29 | PhilRod | you mean kcontrol? |
| 21:36.33 | whitebread | yeah |
| 21:36.41 | whitebread | thanks forgot the name of it |
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| 21:41.38 | PhinnFort | i would have suspected "kedit" |
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| 21:42.29 | tmske | does someone know if there is something like gnome-osd for kde |
| 21:43.14 | PhinnFort | tmske: what is gnome-osd? |
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| 21:43.54 | whitebread | can kde use .pcf fonts? |
| 21:44.17 | tmske | PhinnFort: it is a simple app to show messages on screen (http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=350) |
| 21:44.51 | PhinnFort | tmske: try dcop and knotify or something |
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| 21:50.26 | tmske | PhinnFort: can I show messages without a dialog, like the osd of amarok or konversation? |
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| 21:50.43 | PhinnFort | tmske: probably |
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| 21:51.37 | Sho_ | tmske: look into kdialog --help |
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| 21:55.09 | tmske | Sho_: thanks! |
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| 21:57.54 | PhinnFort | what is the default cd player in KDE? |
| 21:58.08 | VSpike | When I reply to an HTML mail with kmail, it converts the HTML to plaintext and quotes it, even if I'm using HTML format for composing. Is there any way to change this behaviour? |
| 21:59.09 | PhilRod | PhinnFort: kscd |
| 22:00.11 | Desintegr | PhilRod: you can also use Amarok :) |
| 22:00.16 | Desintegr | arf bad tab |
| 22:00.34 | PhinnFort | me knows, me knows |
| 22:00.48 | PhinnFort | but someone is having trouble with playing audio cd's |
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| 22:24.37 | mtu | the daemon which reacts on /etc/fstab changes - how does it determine what drive type it handles? i trigger it with an USB stick, yet it treats it as "Hard Disk" |
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| 22:25.28 | leogermani | Hi all... Anyone knows if its possible to send a keyboard input to two windows at the same time? |
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| 22:38.17 | oMish | What do I need to do to delete this Ctrl-Esc shortcut that opens process viewer ? |
| 22:39.27 | Nielsen | system settings - keyboard shortcuts |
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| 22:42.04 | dokma | q: I wrote a simple php script to play 10 randomly select bible chapters for me in the morning but KOrganizer fails to run it |
| 22:42.14 | dokma | I entered it in an advanced reminder |
| 22:42.22 | dokma | is there a way for me to see some log or something |
| 22:42.29 | dokma | to debug what is happening |
| 22:43.29 | DawnLight | what's the command kde issues when i press the shutdown/reboot button? |
| 22:43.46 | dokma | kde 3.5.5 |
| 22:46.50 | dokma | hah found it on linuxquestions.org |
| 22:47.03 | dokma | it turns out korganizer does not use the arguments field at all |
| 22:47.13 | dokma | I'll have to make my php script an executable |
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| 22:52.21 | tuxedup | in quanta when tab is pressed a dot is used to indicate a tab space, can this be disabled? If so is this done? |
| 22:52.37 | tuxedup | if so, how is this dome? |
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| 22:55.18 | S0NiC | gn8 |
| 22:55.29 | dokma | gn8 SONIC |
| 22:55.38 | dokma | me hittin the sac also |
| 22:55.48 | dokma | everyone dream well and God bless you |
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| 22:59.13 | wizard123 | hello :) |
| 22:59.36 | wizard123 | is there any way to import filter and mailbox settings from thunderbird to kmail ? |
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| 23:04.12 | BlackBsd | for some reason, my kget does not download the files, any idea, the resume button does not work.... |
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| 23:12.37 | whitebread | where is the kde font list? |
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| 23:13.08 | pinotree | front list? |
| 23:13.15 | pinotree | -r |
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| 23:14.32 | whitebread | yeah, in kcontrol theres a menu where you can pick what fonts you use |
| 23:14.49 | whitebread | and there should be a file somewhere that governs that list |
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| 23:23.40 | exw | wolsni: well i filed a bug for the noatun/kdemulimedia bug i've been seing, time will tell if someone picks it up ... thanks again for your help earlier |
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| 23:54.45 | magyar | anyone experiencing problmsn with kmail and imap? |
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| 23:59.49 | Oldgrizz | does this linux perform any better as a full install than it does as a live CD version? |
