| 00:01.09 | Dark_Apostrophe | Are there any kwin devs on IRC? |
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| 00:01.55 | ghaleb | please. can somebody tell me an idea how to trace a threads in debugger ? |
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| 00:04.39 | pinotree | ghaleb: offtopic |
| 00:04.54 | Alarm | hello. i know this may not sound a kde issue in the begining , but several persons told me that it looks more like a kde problem and less a debian one. so the problem is... when mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i can only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well. |
| 00:05.02 | Alarm | in the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device . |
| 00:05.22 | ghaleb | pinotree, I don't understand ? |
| 00:05.30 | Alarm | when i mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 as i said it works pretty well,. i can enter the partition,. but once i turn it of (even if i remove it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive , and OS debian etch |
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| 00:05.42 | pinotree | ghaleb: your question is completely OFFTOPIC here |
| 00:05.54 | pinotree | understand now? |
| 00:05.55 | ghaleb | oh . sorry |
| 00:05.58 | DawnLight | what is the name of the kde replacement of the text dialog? |
| 00:06.13 | pinotree | DawnLight: xdialog? |
| 00:06.32 | DawnLight | isn't there a kdedialog? |
| 00:06.37 | pinotree | kdialog |
| 00:06.56 | DawnLight | for real? |
| 00:07.06 | pinotree | eh? sure |
| 00:07.10 | wolsni | DawnLight: try it |
| 00:07.14 | Alarm | many thigns i tried seem to end up to several errors, like /media/win5 is allready occupied . or not enough permitions and stuff like that |
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| 00:07.51 | DawnLight | can't find |
| 00:08.03 | pinotree | Alarm: do you have your device listen if you open konqueror and point it to media:/ ? |
| 00:08.03 | DawnLight | there's xdialog and gtkdialog |
| 00:08.09 | pinotree | DawnLight: install it? |
| 00:08.10 | Alarm | yes |
| 00:08.18 | Alarm | also with the right label . "Movable" |
| 00:08.24 | DawnLight | i'm looking in the repos |
| 00:08.27 | DawnLight | :/ |
| 00:08.44 | pinotree | so, a double-click on it give you an error, correct? |
| 00:09.21 | Alarm | yes, the error i get now is: cannot enter folder /media/win5 |
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| 00:09.36 | pinotree | uhm |
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| 00:10.59 | Alarm | :) |
| 00:11.06 | wolsni | DawnLight: it should be a part of kdebase |
| 00:12.35 | Alarm | nice... |
| 00:13.22 | pinotree | sorry, running out of ideas at 2am |
| 00:13.29 | Alarm | :) |
| 00:13.31 | Alarm | its ok |
| 00:13.35 | Alarm | u are not the only one. |
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| 00:18.44 | XVampireX | Can konqueror get a session saving feature? |
| 00:18.49 | XVampireX | in KDE4 |
| 00:18.54 | Lanken | does faster ram and a higher-speed hard drive result in better performance? |
| 00:19.07 | Lanken | s/does/do/ |
| 00:20.38 | Alarm | Lanken, is there a reason to answer that ? |
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| 00:20.48 | livingtm | anyone use bluetooth on KDE? |
| 00:21.03 | pinotree | Alarm: yes, if you want to feed the troll |
| 00:21.07 | Alarm | does a 100mhz cpu and 2ghz cpu perform the same ? |
| 00:21.14 | Lanken | pinotree: sorry, sorry. |
| 00:21.18 | Lanken | rever mind me |
| 00:21.25 | Lanken | pinotree: a troll is supposed to be malicious |
| 00:21.30 | Lanken | pinotree: at worst I'm naughty. |
| 00:21.32 | pinotree | not always |
| 00:21.32 | Lanken | so I'm not a troll. |
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| 00:22.32 | wolsni | like "Is the space pope reptilian?" |
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| 00:23.22 | MinceR | i don't know, but Raptor Jesus is! |
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| 00:24.01 | wolsni | </reference show=futurama> |
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| 00:24.38 | lontra | kicker: error while loading shared libraries: liblazy.so.0: cannot open shared object file <0 what do i need to install? |
| 00:24.59 | pinotree | the package that provides that library |
| 00:25.10 | lontra | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.11 | pinotree | #yourdistro might know |
| 00:25.57 | wolsni | MinceR: it's only pseudo-XML :) |
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| 00:39.26 | DawnLight | the desktop alterating screensavers use some logo with a flame instead of my desktop. what did i do wrong? |
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| 00:47.14 | kristjan_ | DawnLight: did you run xcreensaver config |
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| 00:49.15 | DawnLight | no, kristjan |
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| 00:51.37 | DawnLight | oh i see now. thanks! |
| 00:52.45 | vIkSiT | lol, there are that many people who delete .kde? |
| 00:53.15 | Alethes | only 'cause dimwits here tell them to |
| 00:53.40 | vIkSiT | and they still get to hang around? :) |
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| 00:54.46 | Alethes | apparently |
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| 01:13.00 | Alethes | man I made the hottest pepper sauce I've ever had |
| 01:13.08 | Alethes | 20 habaneros :D |
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| 01:14.01 | Jucato | O.o |
| 01:14.17 | Alethes | heh |
| 01:14.34 | Alethes | it's a pepper sauce to be used like you would tobasco or similar sauces |
| 01:14.43 | Alethes | so it's not like salsa |
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| 01:15.01 | Alethes | but good god it's hot |
| 01:15.11 | Alethes | it's got mango and lime too :) |
| 01:15.27 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 01:15.40 | Alethes | I make salsa too, but it only has half a hab in it |
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| 01:16.22 | Alethes | for about 2 cups |
| 01:16.22 | Alethes | 20 habs for 2 cups of pepper sauce |
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| 01:16.34 | n8k99 | Alethes: are you trying to melt something? like your head |
| 01:16.35 | Alethes | I'm taking it to work, so I hope people help me eat it, 'cause there's no way I can eat it all |
| 01:16.38 | Alethes | haha |
| 01:16.49 | Alethes | I'm a culinary geek |
| 01:16.55 | Alethes | so I wanted to see if I could make a good pepper sauce |
| 01:17.08 | n8k99 | sounds like you may have! |
| 01:17.12 | Alethes | I think I'm gonna call it Angel de la Meurte hehe |
| 01:17.37 | Alethes | Muerte, rather |
| 01:17.50 | Alethes | or "Angel of Death" hehe |
| 01:17.57 | Alethes | 'cause it's really sweet |
| 01:18.01 | Alethes | but deathly hot |
| 01:18.06 | n8k99 | hehe |
| 01:18.15 | Alethes | the mango is really good |
| 01:18.27 | Alethes | if I make it milder it'd be good for hot wings too |
| 01:19.14 | n8k99 | you'll need the mango |
| 01:19.14 | n8k99 | that's a really good compliment to the burn |
| 01:19.14 | Alethes | yeah, I'm thinking just adding more mango |
| 01:19.14 | Alethes | I actually tried to do this with a couple of peppers before |
| 01:19.18 | Alethes | but it was just like hot vinegar, because I'm basically running it all through a juicer to get the consistency I want |
| 01:19.28 | Alethes | the peppers don't have much juice |
| 01:19.31 | Alethes | that's why I used 20 |
| 01:19.50 | Alethes | I knew I had to try it, but I don't have anything to put it on a the moment |
| 01:19.56 | Alethes | so I just put it on my finger and tasted it |
| 01:20.02 | n8k99 | yeah but those have lots of juice in teh flesh itself |
| 01:20.06 | Alethes | first it's sweet, then it hits you like a ton of bricks |
| 01:20.25 | n8k99 | they aren't like jalpenos |
| 01:20.32 | Alethes | yeah |
| 01:20.36 | Alethes | I like the heat from habs better |
| 01:20.45 | Alethes | it's pretty different from jalepenos |
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| 01:21.58 | Alethes | it's painfully delicious hehehe |
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| 01:24.20 | rstanca | is there a way i can convince kmail to show in systray the number of unread messages from one folder only, not all unread messages? |
| 01:24.43 | Alethes | I haven't seen that option, unfortunately |
| 01:24.53 | Alethes | I'd like to find a way to get it to only check the inbox for new messages instead of every folder |
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| 02:17.36 | ismailoo | hey is anyone in here? |
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| 02:17.39 | kristjan_ | I am here |
| 02:17.39 | ismailoo | my start bar disapeared, got any sugestions? |
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| 02:17.42 | wolsni | ismailoo: alt+f2, "kicker" |
| 02:17.42 | ismailoo | nop didnt do anything |
| 02:17.50 | wolsni | then go to the panel settings in kcontrol and make sure that the panel isn't autohiding |
| 02:18.05 | ismailoo | how exactly do I do that? lol |
| 02:18.23 | wolsni | ismailoo: alt+f2, "kcontrol" |
| 02:18.49 | kristjan_ | ismailoo: do you mean kmenu or panel itself |
| 02:19.07 | wolsni | the panel settings are under Desktop |
| 02:19.13 | ismailoo | I dunno guys, this is my 1st time using this.. lol |
| 02:19.17 | ismailoo | sorry ;x |
| 02:19.27 | ismailoo | all I installed so far was GNOMe and sabayon |
| 02:19.48 | wolsni | ismailoo: is your clock still showing? |
| 02:19.56 | ismailoo | no just my deskto |
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| 02:20.25 | wolsni | so that whole bar is missing? |
| 02:20.33 | ismailoo | yupslol |
| 02:20.43 | wolsni | that's what we mean by panel |
| 02:21.03 | ismailoo | oh |
| 02:21.05 | ismailoo | yeah I guess |
| 02:21.11 | ismailoo | should I just reboot? |
| 02:21.20 | wolsni | so does alt+f2 bring up the Run dialog? |
| 02:21.22 | Skrot- | I know this isn't KDE related, but is there a way to trigger a cron-job before it's time? |
| 02:21.44 | ismailoo | no alt + f2 dont do anything |
| 02:22.03 | wolsni | ismailoo: how about... |
| 02:22.06 | wolsni | nm |
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| 02:23.12 | ismailoo | I restarted X |
| 02:23.14 | ismailoo | and start bar is back |
| 02:23.35 | ismailoo | :D |
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| 02:26.40 | wolsni | well there you go then |
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| 02:27.33 | lois | ATI Video Drivers |
| 02:28.23 | lois | Where can I get driver updates for ATI Radeon Mobility X700 |
| 02:28.57 | wolsni | lois: ask in your distro channel |
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| 02:34.43 | corevette | where is konqueror support |
| 02:35.21 | wolsni | if you have konqueror questions this is a good place to ask |
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| 02:36.36 | Jucato | there's also #khtml which caters the rendering engine of konqueror |
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| 02:41.20 | corevette | why doesn't an image show up in here: http://ubuntustudio.org/ww2_bak/ |
| 02:41.26 | corevette | compare it to a diff browser |
| 02:41.52 | Jucato | which image? and where? |
| 02:42.35 | corevette | the 'download now' image |
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| 02:42.46 | Jucato | shows up fine here |
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| 02:42.52 | corevette | are you on kde? |
| 02:42.56 | wolsni | here too |
| 02:42.58 | Jucato | of course |
| 02:43.07 | Jucato | and yes, I'm using Konqueror |
| 02:43.13 | corevette | doesn't show up for me |
| 02:43.17 | corevette | and a few other people |
| 02:43.32 | Jucato | what distro are you and those few other people using? |
| 02:43.45 | Jucato | shows fine here on Gentoo |
| 02:44.22 | corevette | i'm using kubuntu |
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| 02:44.36 | corevette | they're using SuSe |
| 02:44.41 | Jucato | hm... |
| 02:44.42 | wolsni | works on 64-bit Fedora here |
| 02:45.00 | Jucato | Gentoo, KDE 3.5.6 working fine |
| 02:45.11 | Jucato | corevette: try asking in #kubuntu if others could reproduce it as well.... |
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| 02:46.29 | dauoalagio2 | hello, i was wondering how fast KDE would be if i had a 2.2 GHz P4 processor and 3/4 gig RAM? |
| 02:46.46 | wolsni | dauoalagio2: blazing |
| 02:47.19 | dauoalagio2 | wolsni, really? |
| 02:47.57 | smileaf | dauoalagio2: blazing is right. |
| 02:48.00 | dauoalagio2 | wolsni, the reason is because it has suddenly like taken a dump. i am on Arch Linux and have been playing around with other enviroments like Gnome/xfce but i want KDE. |
| 02:48.05 | dauoalagio2 | now everything is slow |
| 02:48.18 | dauoalagio2 | like KDE takes five minutes to start up, just X |
| 02:48.19 | wolsni | well, of course it depends on what apps you run |
| 02:48.28 | smileaf | 5mins to start up? |
| 02:48.38 | smileaf | I'd say something is wrong. |
| 02:48.49 | dauoalagio2 | and konsole konqueror take about one minute with KDE libs already running |
| 02:48.57 | dauoalagio2 | both take about* |
| 02:49.03 | smileaf | I run arch linux on a 2.2Ghz Celeron 512M ram and it loads in under a minute |
| 02:49.10 | wolsni | but for most uses 2.2 GHz and 768MB should be more than sufficient |
| 02:49.37 | dauoalagio2 | maybe i should try another distro |
| 02:49.40 | dauoalagio2 | but i love arch linux |
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| 02:49.45 | smileaf | dauoalagio2: maybe check whats running in the background? |
| 02:49.49 | dauoalagio2 | when i first started with kde, it was unbelievable |
| 02:50.03 | wolsni | dauoalagio2: use ksysguard or top or something |
| 02:50.07 | dauoalagio2 | smileaf, can you tell me how? lemme first switch back to KDE |
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| 02:50.32 | dauoalagio2 | smileaf: how many gigs is your / partition? |
| 02:50.38 | smileaf | dauoalagio2: ksysguard is a good app. |
| 02:50.41 | dauoalagio2 | ugh i really want gentoo |
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| 02:51.56 | smileaf | dauoalagio2: I'm not sure... I normally do 2G root partition. |
| 02:52.18 | Jucato | it took me almost a week to finally become "stable" on Gentoo... only because I had to emerge KDE 3.5.6 *after* emerging 3.5.5 :( |
| 02:52.18 | dauoalagio2 | smileaf: ah okay, well i started with 7 and now have 3.5 |
| 02:52.25 | dauoalagio2 | do you think that's the reason? |
| 02:52.28 | dauoalagio2 | too filled up? |
| 02:52.37 | smileaf | dauoalagio2: nah, doesn't matter |
| 02:52.42 | Jucato | smileaf: 2G / partition? you have /usr or /var some other place? |
| 02:52.49 | smileaf | Jucato: correct |
| 02:52.56 | dauoalagio2 | smileaf: what should i try to do then? |
| 02:53.15 | smileaf | oh wait.. 5G /, /var I forget normally don't do that. |
| 02:53.35 | wolsni | dauoalagio2: ksysguard has been suggested twice |
| 02:53.41 | smileaf | dauoalagio2: partition size doesn't affect speed. |
| 02:53.45 | dauoalagio2 | okay, brb |
| 02:53.59 | smileaf | partition type sometimes does. |
| 02:54.41 | smileaf | ext3 felt much slower than reiserfs. tho that was only with write access. |
| 02:55.54 | smileaf | I've tried jfs, xfs, ext3, ext2 and reiserfs. |
| 02:56.29 | smileaf | jfs is horrible when it comes to problems after your computer was improperly shutdown. |
| 02:56.36 | Jucato | 3 things I normally don't tend to "play" with: kernels, X, and filesystems... |
| 02:56.49 | canllaith | some of us have to for work :) |
| 02:56.50 | smileaf | xfs is horribly slow. |
| 02:57.02 | smileaf | ext2 is great for /boot ;) |
| 02:57.02 | Jucato | canllaith: oh I envy you :) |
| 02:57.17 | Jucato | lol why did I make my /boot ext3? lol |
| 02:57.37 | canllaith | apparently having an ext3 /boot partition can make hibernation faster |
| 02:57.44 | canllaith | if you use suspend2 |
| 02:57.47 | canllaith | and oh dear, I hav ea meeting |
| 02:57.50 | canllaith | have a meeting* |
| 02:57.57 | smileaf | ext3 is good for partitions that don't get accessed that much. |
| 02:58.09 | wolsni | canllaith: poor thing :P |
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| 02:58.23 | dauoalagio2 | back |
| 02:58.23 | smileaf | reiserfs is good for / and other partitions that has alot of small files that get accessed alot. |
| 02:59.02 | dauoalagio2 | what should i check in ksysguard? |
| 02:59.19 | smileaf | anything you don't recognize? |
| 02:59.30 | dauoalagio2 | in processes? |
| 02:59.31 | Jucato | smileaf: how about partitions with files of mixed sizes (big and small) that get accessed a lot? :/ |
| 02:59.42 | smileaf | Jucato: /home ? |
| 02:59.59 | wolsni | dauoalagio2: check the process table for processes using a lot of CPU |
| 03:00.04 | ismailoo | Hi I am Back |
| 03:00.05 | smileaf | Jucato: either ext3 or reiserfs doesn't really matter. |
| 03:00.11 | dauoalagio2 | how can i have kde not load my last session apps? |
| 03:00.15 | dauoalagio2 | maybe that would help |
| 03:00.22 | Jucato | KControl -> KDE Components -> Session Manager |
| 03:00.30 | onesandzeros | any of you guys know if pdf files can be made incorrectly (sap up memory and lock the system)? I'm having some trouble, but I don't want to believe that it's kpdf... |
| 03:00.33 | Jucato | select "Start with an empty session" |
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| 03:00.52 | dauoalagio2 | thanks Jucato |
| 03:01.19 | smileaf | onesandzeros: personally if a file a program is opening is causing horrible problems, I'd blame the program for not handling it well enough. |
| 03:02.06 | wolsni | onesandzeros: i think kpdf has issues with large textures, for example |
| 03:02.42 | ismailoo | Hi |
| 03:02.47 | ismailoo | does anyone know how to use beryl? |
| 03:03.08 | Jucato | #beryl (or in your case #ubuntu-effects ) |
| 03:03.10 | smileaf | ismailoo: your distro does |
| 03:03.16 | Jucato | er sorry |
| 03:03.32 | ismailoo | I am using sabyon |
| 03:03.35 | Jucato | silly k-named channels :/ |
| 03:03.42 | smileaf | #sabyon then |
| 03:03.48 | smileaf | spelling? |
| 03:03.49 | ismailoo | ok:) |
| 03:03.57 | ismailoo | yeah:p |
| 03:03.58 | ismailoo | mybad |
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| 03:07.03 | DaveQB | which config file sets a users wallpaper ? |
| 03:07.36 | wolsni | kdesktoprc, of course |
| 03:07.46 | DaveQB | hmmm I cant find it. |
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| 03:08.24 | DaveQB | in ~/.kde/share/sonfig ? I dont have a kdesktoprc hmm |
| 03:08.27 | Jucato | ah yeah, kdesktoprc |
| 03:08.39 | DaveQB | config that is |
| 03:08.42 | DaveQB | lol |
| 03:08.51 | Jucato | :P |
| 03:09.16 | Jucato | fresh install? |
| 03:09.27 | DaveQB | yes |
| 03:09.32 | wolsni | DaveQB: are you running kdesktop? |
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| 03:09.49 | DaveQB | ahhhhh when you have done a sudo -i ~ no long means what you may think |
| 03:09.52 | DaveQB | oops! :) |
| 03:09.53 | DaveQB | thanks |
| 03:09.54 | Jucato | then it's possible that you haven't made any user changes to your desktop, so kdesktoprc hasn't been generated yet |
| 03:10.04 | Jucato | ah :) |
| 03:10.16 | DaveQB | Jucato my thoughts, but had changed the wallpaper to get a changed file |
| 03:10.23 | Jucato | heh yeah sudo -i is like su... ~ will be root's home |
| 03:10.24 | DaveQB | but yeah, my oversight, oops |
| 03:10.29 | DaveQB | exactly |
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| 03:55.31 | marco__ | Hello! I need some help, please. I have a multimonitor configuration. Anyone knows how to change the display where the standard Sabayon login appears? |
| 03:56.03 | GLEICI | oi |
| 03:56.17 | GLEICI | ;; |
| 03:56.26 | marco__ | ? |
| 03:56.57 | GLEICI | oi marco |
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| 03:57.11 | marco__ | hello...ciao! |
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| 03:57.46 | GLEICI | vc tc de onde |
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| 03:58.26 | GLEICI | de onde vc tc marco |
| 03:58.41 | ismailoo | hello |
| 03:58.58 | marco__ | GLEICI, I am sorry I don't understand |
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| 03:59.26 | marco__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.35 | smileaf | your kdm theme? |
| 04:02.40 | smileaf | marco__: ^^ |
| 04:02.48 | marco__ | I am using the one that comes from the CD installation. i suppose is the "Lines" |
| 04:03.21 | smileaf | marco__: do you have a kcontrol -> system administration -> kdm theme manager ? |
| 04:03.34 | marco__ | I check :P |
| 04:04.52 | marco__ | there are 2 in the list: BCOpenFuture and Circles |
| 04:05.07 | smileaf | ah so they do include it =) |
| 04:05.33 | smileaf | choose the one you want, or install a new one, highlight it in the list and click apply |
| 04:06.16 | marco__ | thanks. whould that give me the chance to change the monitor where the login appears? |
| 04:06.34 | smileaf | marco__: no, I think that's not configurable until kde4 |
| 04:06.58 | marco__ | it always starts on the far left monitor and I wish it to be on a different one (the left one is the TV) |
| 04:07.46 | marco__ | ok... maybe I have to re-think the whole setup |
| 04:09.36 | marco__ | thanks for the help |
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| 04:39.51 | Tonren | Does anyone know if there's a way to get dcop commands to work with the `at` command? |
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| 05:20.19 | ruinevil | is kde 3.5.6 the last version of kde3 before 4 comes out? |
| 05:21.37 | Jucato | 3.5.7 will be out in a few weeks |
| 05:22.49 | ruinevil | oic |
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| 05:45.53 | chealer | hi. is there a not too complicated way to start krfb remotely (using ssh is fine), and if so, what is it? I always have to launch krfb locally and click configure before I can connect by VNC. |
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| 06:15.35 | oneforall | just wondering if there is a patch or somethign to have kde use the viewports with compiz / |
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| 06:23.43 | myah | Hi guys! |
| 06:24.35 | myah | I wanted to replace my Kmenu K logo button with a rectangular button but when I put in /usr/kde/3.5/share/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/apps then it shrinks the image to be square shaped and it looks all crappy |
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| 06:25.04 | logixoul | myah: AFAIK you need KBFX |
| 06:25.08 | Jucato | kicker uses only a square icon for the K menu |
| 06:25.14 | myah | yeah, well I got kbfx |
| 06:25.18 | Jucato | ~kmenu |
| 06:25.36 | apt | Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx |
| 06:25.36 | myah | and it doesn't work |
| 06:25.37 | DeFender1031 | hello i'm using the xmms-kde applet and for some reason i can't change the background color, it refuses to be anything other than gray |
| 06:25.37 | Jucato | hm.. no worky |
| 06:25.37 | DeFender1031 | er |
| 06:25.40 | DeFender1031 | the background color of the osd that is |
| 06:25.46 | myah | I'll emerge it again and try once more |
| 06:28.58 | DeFender1031 | anyone? |
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| 06:35.16 | myah | okay, I got a new version of kbfx. still happening. |
| 06:35.24 | myah | I press apply but nothing chanegs |
| 06:35.28 | myah | changes |
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| 06:41.45 | DeFender1031 | i guess no one is really awake at this time of usa night |
| 06:42.30 | myah | oh, I'm making a livecd so I need to clean out all the crap (home folder, tmp, browser cache) |
| 06:42.39 | Vasistha | DeFender1031: dunno ... xmms has typically done things "its own way", though |
| 06:42.39 | myah | where would I find some of the crap? |
| 06:43.03 | DeFender1031 | Vasistha, it has an option for it, it just doesn't change anything |
| 06:44.02 | DeFender1031 | also, the volume and balance bars seem to do nothing |
| 06:44.03 | Vasistha | myah: you could use konqueror's FSView to find the big craps |
| 06:44.25 | DeFender1031 | as does the "transparency" feature |
| 06:44.52 | DeFender1031 | it seems like it's mid-development and they have the whole gui there, but not the coding to back it up |
| 06:45.02 | myah | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.16 | Vasistha | myah: you may need to install it as a plugin, but it should be somewhere in the view menu |
| 06:45.55 | myah | oh okay |
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| 06:50.03 | holycow | hey guys |
| 06:50.30 | holycow | is there some sort of automount feature in kde? i thought putting in a new hd on the ide chain automagically mounted it? |
| 06:51.57 | Vasistha | holycow: there is an automounting daemon ... I think you can turn it on in the services area |
| 06:52.16 | holycow | k |
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| 09:13.13 | Fri13 | Hi! if this is not know bug, can someone confirm it. When disabling kmenu category titles with "kwriteconfig --file kickerrc --group menus --key ShowMenuTitles --type bool false" and starting any GTK+ application, top submenu disapear. If i start gimp, office submenu is gone, if i then start inkscape, internet submenu is gone and so on. Every GTK+ application hides top submenu. If i open menu editor, everything is fine. Fix for this was enable |
| 09:13.13 | Fri13 | category titles back changin false > true (+ restarts on kicker on both settings change). |
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| 09:14.00 | Fri13 | I have searched few times that from bugs.kde.org but didnt find match yet. |
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| 09:17.13 | holycow | is there a kde alarm application? |
| 09:17.42 | pinotree | kalarm |
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| 09:19.08 | holycow | doh! |
| 09:19.43 | ma_b | Hello. I'm using konqueror with auto refresh for some websites. Now after a day it grows and grows to 400M memory usage and more. I think it's because of the autoupdate. |
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| 09:21.09 | ma_b | When I close all konqueror sessions there is still the big process running which I have to kill then. |
| 09:21.38 | holycow | i love how all kde windows remember their size and position |
| 09:22.50 | holycow | ah |
| 09:22.54 | holycow | except file chooser |
| 09:22.56 | holycow | *grrr* |
| 09:23.05 | holycow | ma_b, just so someone answers, i don't know |
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| 09:23.40 | holycow | is it possible to modify how the K menu is 'represented'? |
| 09:24.07 | Jucato | icon for the K Menu? |
| 09:24.08 | holycow | i want to rename it to applications and add system and administration large icons similar in look like in gnome |
| 09:24.44 | Jucato | ah.. no... or not that I know of |
| 09:24.49 | Fri13 | holycow: you have kubuntu? |
| 09:24.59 | Fri13 | holycow: because on kubuntu that is possible. |
| 09:25.01 | holycow | yeah |
| 09:25.10 | Jucato | Fri13: what is possible? |
| 09:25.21 | holycow | Fri13, neato ... i'd love to see how that is done |
| 09:25.24 | holycow | or read about it |
| 09:25.26 | pinotree | it's possible |
| 09:25.33 | ma_b | holycow: Looklike: kbfx, renaming can be done in kmenu |
| 09:25.39 | pinotree | iirc in the userguide it's written |
| 09:25.41 | Jucato | well, not exactly like GNOME's, but close... |
| 09:25.45 | ma_b | holycow: kmenuedit, sorry. |
| 09:25.48 | holycow | well close yeah |
| 09:25.48 | Simeon_H | D: |
| 09:25.53 | holycow | k, lookin, danke! |
| 09:25.55 | Simeon_H | err |
| 09:25.55 | Jucato | Simeon_H: kbfx |
| 09:25.56 | Fri13 | holycow: there should be own applet for that when you right klick kmenu and select there "add applet" |
| 09:25.58 | Simeon_H | KBFX |
| 09:26.06 | Simeon_H | STFU |
| 09:26.07 | benJIman | holycow: you can add extra menus to the panel |
| 09:26.07 | pinotree | kmenuedit has nothing to do with the kmenu icons |
| 09:26.08 | Simeon_H | too many acronymns eerrgh |
| 09:26.21 | benJIman | holycow: just create folders with the appropriate .desktop icons and add them as menus |
| 09:26.37 | holycow | ah! |
| 09:26.45 | holycow | thats interesting |
| 09:27.00 | Fri13 | benJIman: kubuntu has own applet for that, i have used it once... |
| 09:27.01 | Jucato | specifically, quick file browser applet |
| 09:27.19 | Jucato | Fri13: it's not a Kubuntu only feature |
| 09:27.21 | ma_b | pinotree: You can choose icons for the entries in kmenuedit. |
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| 09:27.30 | pinotree | he asked for kmenu |
| 09:27.31 | Jucato | ma_b: but not for the K Menu itself |
| 09:27.32 | Simeon_H | I use kubuntu but I've customized the fux0r out of it |
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| 09:27.48 | holycow | oh lookee, "quickbrowse' feature |
| 09:27.50 | holycow | fuck me |
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| 09:27.58 | holycow | i've been wanting that in gnome for like ages |
| 09:28.17 | Simeon_H | XFCE FTW |
| 09:28.18 | ma_b | Jucato: Ok, that I did with replacing the kmenu icon :) And then also kbfx can do that. |
| 09:28.19 | Simeon_H | I mean errr |
| 09:28.23 | Jucato | holycow: um... I think GNOME does it a bit better... they call it Drawers |
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| 09:28.53 | benJIman | holycow: or you could install kickoff and have an actually better menu. |
| 09:29.04 | Jucato | ma_b: yes, kbfx can. but changing the icon for the default k menu icon isn't the same or that easy... |
| 09:29.10 | Jucato | kickoff... |
| 09:29.24 | Simeon_H | I use the embassy themage |
| 09:29.34 | Simeon_H | it looks at lot like vista though D: |
| 09:29.58 | holycow | Jucato, yeah drawers are nice, i meant i always wanted to browse my file structure DIRECTLY from the panel up top instead of invoking nautilus and that gay idea of spatial browsing |
| 09:29.59 | Fri13 | benJIman: i would not call kickoff as better ;-) none my friends dont like it. |
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| 09:30.07 | holycow | wow this is like wicked |
| 09:30.08 | Jucato | holycow: ah |
| 09:30.29 | holycow | benJIman, lookin it up :) |
| 09:30.43 | holycow | Jucato, ha! |
| 09:30.48 | Taube | Hello. Is there a way to give the kde "konsole" tabs names - out of a shell command without mouse? |
| 09:31.04 | Fri13 | holycow: you wanted only rename kmenu icon or add there those application | places | settings (or similar) panels? |
| 09:31.21 | benJIman | Fri13: probably they havn't tried it properly |
| 09:31.21 | holycow | Fri13, kickoff isn't in ubuntu repos is it? |
| 09:31.27 | Fri13 | Taube: set shortcut? |
| 09:31.31 | Jucato | holycow: no |
| 09:31.33 | holycow | Fri13, originally yes |
| 09:31.42 | benJIman | Fri13: it's like minicli but infinitely better |
| 09:31.45 | Fri13 | holycow: i dont know but you can find kickoff from kde-apps for kubuntu package. |
| 09:31.47 | holycow | Jucato, ah googling |
| 09:32.33 | Taube | Fri13: a shortcut would mean that i have to set it - i want to set it by my executed command |
| 09:33.07 | Fri13 | benJIman: they have fighted with it few weeks before they asked isn't there any better menu style. And i told them how to install kbfx or current kmenu and all have choosed kmenu because it is clear. |
| 09:33.19 | holycow | how come kde has so many super cool things available for it? |
| 09:33.22 | Jucato | Taube: someone asked a similar question a few days ago... can't remember the answer though :( |
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| 09:33.37 | Taube | Jucato: You don't have logging enabled? :) |
| 09:33.44 | Simeon_H | oh noez Audacity won't work |
| 09:33.46 | holycow | i find it hard to understand how kde coders manage to pump out so many apps and nifty things |
| 09:33.49 | Fri13 | Taube: if i remember correct, there was tip how to do that on konsole usablity test... |
| 09:33.58 | Jucato | Taube: I have... but "a few days ago" is a bit long :) |
| 09:34.01 | Simeon_H | WORK YOU GAY ASS WXWIDGETS PIECE OF SHIT! |
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| 09:34.34 | Taube | I'm not upset if you give me some search tips - i don't have a real starting point at the moment |
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| 09:35.54 | Fri13 | Taube: http://www.robertknight.me.uk/survey/public/survey.php?name=konsole_settings mayby there was answer (it is survey for konsole usablit). |
| 09:36.04 | holycow | wooooow |
| 09:36.05 | Fri13 | sorry, it is closed... |
| 09:36.07 | Fri13 | my bad... |
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| 09:36.19 | holycow | quick file browser applet that actually works |
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| 09:36.21 | holycow | jesus |
| 09:36.37 | Fri13 | holycow: how long you have used KDE? :-) |
| 09:36.41 | Simeon_H | omg |
| 09:36.44 | pinotree | hope you learn the lesson |
| 09:36.44 | Simeon_H | my first kick |
| 09:36.46 | holycow | well it's been 4 years on gnome |
| 09:36.48 | Simeon_H | I'm so proud |
| 09:36.49 | Simeon_H | :D |
| 09:36.54 | Taube | Fri13: that site is closed? |
| 09:37.05 | holycow | i mean i like gnome and all but i didn't realize the stuff i've been bitching about exists |
| 09:37.45 | Fri13 | Taube: yes, it looks like that it is not active survey anymore so.... sorry. |
| 09:37.52 | holycow | i've been trying kde out for oh say a week or whatnot |
| 09:39.50 | Fri13 | holycow: I like KDE because there are lots those little tricks what i can use. |
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| 09:40.30 | holycow | Fri13, whats happening to me is I am hitting walls in gnome |
| 09:40.33 | Fri13 | and i remember when i first time started to use KDE 3.1 it was like fresh air for desktops :-) |
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| 09:40.47 | Fri13 | walls? |
| 09:41.02 | holycow | i'm deploying it at work and its just really falling short in terms of flexibility and ability to lock it down inthe windows 'profiles' sense |
| 09:41.10 | holycow | and it turns out that the problem is simplicity |
| 09:41.26 | holycow | you cant expand simplicity into complexity, but you can take complexity and reduce it to simplicity |
| 09:41.54 | holycow | you gotta have all these kde toys to be able to create an environment suitable for your target audiences needs |
| 09:42.23 | pinotree | holycow: did you look at kiosktool, and the kde kiosk capabilities? |
| 09:42.46 | holycow | i did a few years ago, i wasn't too impressed but then i didn't do enough research |
| 09:42.50 | holycow | i'm about to give that a try again |
| 09:42.58 | pinotree | few years ago is too many time |
| 09:43.09 | pinotree | s/many/much/ |
| 09:43.16 | holycow | has it improved much? |
| 09:43.31 | pinotree | yepp |
| 09:43.40 | holycow | i was told about a week ago that any kde app can be built to support the framework as its 'part of kde' |
| 09:43.42 | Fri13 | Im not anykind developer, good if i even know is code HTML or C but i "think" that developers should make base system and allow other developers change to use them and mix own applications from them. Like linux + modules. Have possibility to configure things like user wants. |
| 09:43.45 | holycow | not exactly sure what that means |
| 09:44.01 | pinotree | holycow: http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin |
| 09:44.10 | holycow | Fri13, well i agree, i at first disagreed with linus |
| 09:44.17 | holycow | but now i gotta say he was right about his gnome critiques |
| 09:44.24 | holycow | again i don't hate gnome at all |
| 09:44.29 | holycow | i love the devs and the team over there |
| 09:44.54 | holycow | i'm just alittle taken aback finding things that already exist here that i was looking for over there |
| 09:45.06 | holycow | and yet they have all the corporate support |
| 09:45.12 | Fri13 | holycow: i dont have anything serious against gnome, i think it is great desktop for having smooth drop from other OS to linux, but later on, users wants to move to KDE if they notices they what do things like they want. |
| 09:45.14 | holycow | how do kde devs create so much stuff? |
| 09:45.24 | holycow | Fri13, yep totally |
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| 09:45.48 | holycow | infact what i would love to see in kde is 'profile recipies' of some sort ... say a website where people can publish their profile recipies |
| 09:46.04 | Fri13 | holycow: kde-profile.org ? :-D |
| 09:46.15 | Fri13 | that kind website would be cool |
| 09:46.15 | holycow | one could be a simplified ui out of the box similar to gnome, just not hidden away in some registry bullshit |
| 09:46.18 | holycow | ha! |
| 09:46.23 | holycow | pinotree, speaking of which |
| 09:46.24 | holycow | *cough* |
| 09:46.26 | holycow | :) |
| 09:46.34 | holycow | Fri13, well yeah it would, wouldn't it? |
| 09:46.43 | holycow | like you could have various corporate roles |
| 09:46.45 | Fri13 | yes |
| 09:46.48 | holycow | gramma profile |
| 09:46.52 | holycow | script kiddie profile |
| 09:47.02 | holycow | bling bling profile |
| 09:47.05 | Fri13 | :-DD |
| 09:47.15 | holycow | and you don't get into the whole debate about 'simple versus complex' |
| 09:47.23 | holycow | where the devs decide what is complicated what is simple |
| 09:47.30 | holycow | the users take the tools and decide for them selves |
| 09:47.30 | holycow | also |
| 09:47.40 | holycow | you get automatic corporate deployment tools right in that |
| 09:47.46 | holycow | which is what we are looking for |
| 09:48.00 | Fri13 | mayby it would be good idea to have "profile package" for KDE so you can just apply them to KDE as styles. And there could be few for start. |
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| 09:48.15 | holycow | ...right exactly my thought |
| 09:48.29 | holycow | and you can upload and download ones from kde-profile.org |
| 09:48.41 | holycow | pinotree, that site doesn't come up? |
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| 09:49.50 | holycow | actually kde.org doesn't come up for me |
| 09:49.55 | holycow | anyone else can access the site? |
| 09:49.58 | Fri13 | holycow: when i read those kde4 mindstorm ideas on kde-look.org sometimes i so scary that KDE4 will become Gnome #2 because there is so much ideas to take away flexibility what KDE has. |
| 09:50.17 | Fri13 | kde.org comes fine up for me. |
| 09:50.22 | holycow | yeah that would be a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mistake |
| 09:50.22 | holycow | huge |
| 09:50.27 | holycow | profiles is the key |
| 09:50.35 | pinotree | Fri13: nobody is doing that |
| 09:50.43 | holycow | ability to customize to a deep granular level is key |
| 09:51.26 | Fri13 | pinotree: i dont mean that KDE devs would be doing it. But that feel what can get by looking those mindstorm ideas... |
| 09:51.36 | pinotree | ignore them |
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| 09:51.58 | pinotree | they are from 3rd parties completely not involed into the develpment |
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| 09:52.23 | holycow | pinotree, thank god :) |
| 09:52.24 | pinotree | and possibly unaware of what has been done lately |
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| 09:52.38 | Fri13 | pinotree: yes, sometimes it just takes little bit too far from me because it looks like some ones just like it is best for all if as they see use it. |
| 09:52.40 | pinotree | as the label says, they are _ideas_ |
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| 09:52.57 | holycow | pinotree, finally got into the site via konq, ffox didn't wanna open kde.org for some reason |
| 09:52.58 | holycow | hehe |
| 09:53.05 | Fri13 | pinotree: yes, thats best thing what i trust, only ideas :-D |
| 09:53.19 | pinotree | see? this is your punishment for using ff instead of konqui :P |
| 09:53.29 | Fri13 | and there *must* be good, stupid and silly ideas to get flexible desktop :-) |
| 09:53.40 | holycow | pinotree, hehe |
| 09:53.56 | holycow | i haveto say tho, the one thing i REALLY missed while using gnome for the last 4 years was konqueror |
| 09:54.04 | holycow | its always been the king of the hill for file management |
| 09:54.09 | holycow | nothing comes close |
| 09:54.12 | Fri13 | holycow: agreed. |
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| 09:54.38 | holycow | nothing wrong with having dolphing come around as an option but konqi will always rule |
| 09:54.40 | Fri13 | everything when im using windows somewhere public station, im trying to fish:/ or ftp:/ etc. :_D |
| 09:54.41 | Fri13 | :-D |
| 09:54.46 | Jucato | pinotree: what's kpdf's (default) backend again? |
| 09:54.54 | holycow | Fri13, no kidding, annoying isn't it? |
| 09:54.58 | pinotree | kpdf has no backends |
| 09:55.08 | Jucato | ah ok... hm... I forgot the correct term... |
| 09:55.22 | holycow | pinotree, oh wow, that looks very comprehensive ... re: kiosk |
| 09:55.25 | Jucato | xpdf, poppler thingy... |
| 09:55.25 | holycow | thank you for the linkage |
| 09:55.34 | Jucato | bah nvm... |
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| 09:55.41 | pinotree | Jucato: kpdf uses an embedded xpdf |
| 09:55.54 | Jucato | ah. that's by default right? |
| 09:55.54 | Fri13 | holycow: yes, and i always miss that how i can drag files from desktop to other applications, or from open/save dialoges to other places and so on. Just that Drag'n'Drop thing.... |
| 09:56.02 | pinotree | Jucato: there's no default |
| 09:56.14 | pinotree | there's *one* usage only |
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| 09:56.25 | holycow | Fri13, and kobjects or whatever its called, i love how all applications can just inherit system abilities |
| 09:56.42 | Jucato | anyway, I was just trying to compare Kubuntu's and Gentoo's kpdf... thanks anyway :) |
| 09:56.48 | pinotree | all the other (aka ubuntu's poppler patch) is totally UNSUPPORTED (and also BULLSHIT) |
| 09:57.04 | Jucato | ah I see. :) |
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| 09:58.05 | Jucato | pinotree: I don't know all the technical details, but from my (end-user) experience now on Gentoo, kpdf here is faster. I don't see that blank page with the big X as much |
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| 09:58.22 | Jucato | so I'm guessing that would be one of the side effects of the poppler patch? |
| 09:58.35 | Fri13 | few times a month i get this nice feeling about KDE. I forget that im using KDE, i just look desktop and i think "whee, this desktop just rocks, how i could get this to my PC". |
| 09:58.35 | Jucato | anyway, thanks for the info... I always get technical stuff wrong :P |
| 09:58.39 | pinotree | this is your punishment for using a patched kpdf, remember |
| 09:58.50 | Jucato | I am no longer punished :D |
| 09:59.08 | holycow | pinotree, what was their rationally for the poppler patch? |
| 09:59.23 | pinotree | use a vanilla kpdf and your pdf viewer will be faster, charming, sexy |
| 09:59.59 | Fri13 | brb |
| 10:00.00 | pinotree | holycow: the fact that they just patch poppler in case of security updates, and they're done |
| 10:00.00 | Jucato | I think Gentoo's is as vanilla as it you can be |
| 10:00.03 | holycow | aha |
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| 10:00.18 | pinotree | it is because _i_ pressed for it to be that way |
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| 10:00.37 | Jucato | :D |
| 10:00.54 | pinotree | i politely asked flameeyes once again, and he removed the stuff |
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| 10:02.06 | pinotree | Jucato: and you'll see the great improvements kpdf in kde 3.5.7 will bring |
| 10:02.24 | Jucato | oooh |
| 10:02.48 | pinotree | directly coming from the xpdf302 merge, vector antialias for once |
| 10:03.03 | Fri13 | Jucato: 3.5.7 coming?! :-D |
| 10:03.11 | holycow | kde desktop sharing? |
| 10:03.12 | Jucato | Fri13: yeah. |
| 10:03.17 | holycow | invitation via email? |
| 10:03.18 | holycow | omfg |
| 10:03.19 | holycow | lol |
| 10:03.28 | Fri13 | holycow: invitation for what? :-) |
| 10:03.28 | holycow | how the hell do you people get all of this done |
| 10:04.12 | Jucato | Fri13: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE_3.5_Release_Schedule#KDE_3.5.7 |
| 10:04.14 | holycow | Fri13, well desktop sharing via kde work like it does on windows ... not sure about encryption yet |
| 10:04.21 | holycow | but thats what regular users need |
| 10:04.26 | Jucato | May 22 expected release |
| 10:04.32 | Fri13 | holycow: i think KDE 'secret' is that developers works together and accepts suggestions from users. I dont know about gnome but i get feeling that gnome devs dont take neiborhood kids to play with them :-/ |
| 10:04.47 | holycow | i'm going to hire someone to write an ldap backend to that app to let people delegate to tothers in the directory |
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| 10:05.06 | nodie | hi |
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| 10:05.11 | nodie | I've installed koffice 1.6.2 |
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| 10:05.15 | Fri13 | holycow: yes, that desktop sharing is one thing what i like on KDE when needed to help friends on their computer. usually i dont even help :-D |
| 10:05.27 | nodie | and I'm trying to run a python script using kross |
| 10:05.41 | nodie | but I don't see any kross executable in my system (FreeBSD 1.6.2) |
| 10:05.46 | Jucato | nodie: (in case you don't get an answer, there's a #koffice channel as well) |
| 10:05.52 | nodie | ok |
| 10:05.54 | nodie | thanks |
| 10:06.01 | pinotree | Jucato: all of thoser |
| 10:06.02 | pinotree | -r |
| 10:06.19 | Jucato | :) |
| 10:06.25 | holycow | does anyone know how the vnc connection handles encryption? obviously ssh forwarding would be nice but not possible for windows guests ... ? |
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| 10:07.16 | Fri13 | holycow: are you starting to share your KDE desktop now with windows users? ;-) |
| 10:07.40 | holycow | unfortunately we will have windows users in the company always |
| 10:08.00 | holycow | a handfull after i'm done butnone the less |
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| 10:08.22 | holycow | Jucato, because? gimme a heads up |
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| 10:08.43 | Jucato | holycow: took me almost 2 days to emerge from 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 :) |
| 10:08.47 | holycow | oh |
| 10:08.48 | holycow | heh |
| 10:09.01 | Jucato | and almost 2 days to emerge 3.5.5 in the first place :) |
| 10:09.06 | Jucato | and that was all just last week :/ |
| 10:09.21 | Fri13 | Jucato: its easy to wait good desktop ;-) |
| 10:09.37 | Jucato | of course. for KDE, any wait is worth it :D |
| 10:09.56 | Jucato | any small difficulty or inconvenience is worth it :) |
| 10:10.12 | Fri13 | for me, every KDE release is like birthday party... or christmas... |
| 10:10.32 | holycow | "The KDE Kiosk is a framework that has been built into KDE since version 3" |
| 10:10.35 | holycow | okay damnit |
| 10:10.37 | holycow | you guys did it again |
| 10:10.45 | holycow | i tried explaining that to gnome devs |
| 10:10.59 | holycow | that the whole thing has to be supported at the framework level |
| 10:11.05 | holycow | and *ding* kde has it again |
| 10:11.10 | Fri13 | :-D |
| 10:11.49 | Fri13 | holycow: i think it is much easier to tell what KDE has done wrong than what it has done by 'best' way ;-) |
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| 10:11.53 | pinotree | kde had a powerful kiosk framework muuuuuuch time before gnome |
| 10:12.09 | holycow | gnome has nothing |
| 10:12.14 | atidem | hi |
| 10:12.19 | Fri13 | hi |
| 10:12.42 | holycow | sabayon is a neat idea but it really can't do shit as nothing is supported at the framework level |
| 10:12.56 | holycow | you can't lock down gftp in any particular way other than you can access it or you can't |
| 10:13.01 | holycow | as an example |
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| 10:15.22 | holycow | Fri13, on and look at that |
| 10:15.30 | holycow | kiosk admin tool has and auto upload feature |
| 10:15.34 | holycow | how fricking convenient |
| 10:15.44 | holycow | i think it, it bloody well exists here |
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| 10:18.03 | Fri13 | Im having problem with KDE style > effect > menu shadow. If i disable it, it comes back after relogin. |
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| 10:18.58 | holycow | yey! kde globals |
| 10:19.00 | holycow | sweet |
| 10:19.11 | holycow | Jucato, share :) |
| 10:20.01 | Jucato | not really sure if it's just KDE though... I was just wondering why there are 2 separate places for app "info"... ~/.kde/share/apps and ~/.kde/share/config |
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| 10:20.43 | Jucato | I mean, when you want to copy/save settings and app data from one install to another, you have to look in 2 places... |
| 10:22.01 | Fri13 | Jucato: i have now edited those configs few last days and i have be thinking same. |
| 10:22.46 | Jucato | although like I said, I'm not sure if it's just KDE, or the "tradition" goes way back to some *nix thingy... |
| 10:23.19 | tsb | Any vague estimated date for when kwin_composite becomes stable enough for use? |
| 10:23.40 | Jucato | when kde4 comes? |
| 10:24.30 | tsb | so you won't be able to install it yourself for 3.5 ? |
| 10:25.20 | Jucato | you could probably ask in #kde-devel ... |
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| 10:31.14 | Fri13 | Does kmail anymore support deleting emails so it dont move them to trashbin, just overlines them to show them deleted? |
| 10:31.18 | Mornx | so, when is KDE adopting webkit? |
| 10:31.39 | Jucato | hm... controversial topic |
| 10:32.01 | holycow | i'm just not crazy about anything that comes from apple |
| 10:32.03 | Jucato | I think "not (yet)" would be as good an answer as any |
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| 10:32.10 | holycow | they should just die or go away imho |
| 10:32.17 | Jucato | technically, it originally came from KDE :) |
| 10:32.28 | Fri13 | webkit? |
| 10:32.29 | holycow | wasn't it perverted in some way by them tho? |
| 10:32.39 | Jucato | kinda |
| 10:32.46 | Mornx | perverted? you're quite the neutral one ;) |
| 10:32.50 | Jucato | hence the "originally" |
| 10:32.51 | holycow | or i thought they dropped the khtml and redid their own thing as webkit no? |
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| 10:33.02 | Jucato | no it's still a fork of khtml afaik |
| 10:33.05 | Fri13 | webkit? :-) |
| 10:33.07 | Simeon_H | <sprawd_> how do i delete the history in konquerer? |
| 10:33.08 | Simeon_H | <RichiH> the smart way of saying "i've been browsing porn at my dad's computer" |
| 10:33.10 | holycow | Mornx, lol, well they don't exactly play fair, or even contribute |
| 10:33.28 | Simeon_H | I'm guessing that was either in here or in #freenode-social |
| 10:33.29 | Fri13 | webkit = kind khtml? |
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| 10:33.38 | holycow | Simeon_H, ha! |
| 10:34.05 | Fri13 | Jucato: i dont know :-D |
| 10:34.09 | Simeon_H | http://www.bash.org/?48433 |
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| 10:36.50 | Mornx | holycow, well they are porting webkit to Qt if that counts as contribution ;) |
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| 10:37.13 | Jucato | depends... see who's doing the porting :) |
| 10:37.46 | Jucato | in this case, "porting" == "Qt programmers doing the work, on Apple's turf" (afaik and iirc) |
| 10:37.54 | Jucato | but like I said, controversial topic... |
| 10:38.07 | holycow | Mornx, it's just that basically if it wasn't for the bsd licence |
| 10:38.22 | holycow | and bsd devels giving their lives work away apple would not exist today |
| 10:38.33 | holycow | their big os project died a horrible death before someone had the bsd idea |
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| 10:39.00 | holycow | i have seen nothing really contributed back from those folks, they just take and take but contribute nothing |
| 10:39.11 | holycow | their kernel shenanigans might be perhaps overblown but damnit |
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| 10:39.18 | Mornx | that 'bsd idea' dates back to early 80's and NeXT, apple just brought that |
| 10:39.31 | holycow | what 10 years on their modified kernel and what have they actually contributed? |
| 10:40.18 | holycow | Mornx, indeed, but if it weren't a bsd licence with no strings attached ... i seriously doubt they would have had many options |
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| 10:42.55 | Mornx | they have provided all the source code of their kernel, ain't that enough |
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| 10:43.20 | holycow | no i don't think it is |
| 10:43.45 | holycow | i mean obviously i have a clear bias, i don't pretend that my opinion is fair or correct |
| 10:44.20 | Mornx | they made a fork of BSD, they are not involved in making BSD, they have provided everything they have done though |
| 10:44.36 | holycow | i remember some shenanigans about signed modules and dkernel soruce being released in very large batches so it can't be reliablly built |
| 10:44.41 | holycow | essentially making the source useless |
| 10:44.46 | holycow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:45.07 | holycow | Mornx, right exactly. i can't really understand how someone can take but not help out |
| 10:45.26 | holycow | yeah its probably well withing the spirit of the bsd programmers choice and philosophy |
| 10:45.27 | Mornx | they release everything minus piracy protection software (think x86 project) and closed source drivers |
| 10:45.37 | holycow | it REALLY doesn't sit well with me tho |
| 10:45.48 | mardi_soir | élo |
| 10:46.23 | Fri13 | does someone have suse 10.1 - 10.2? |
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| 10:46.56 | Fri13 | Jucato: do you have kio-beagle installed? |
| 10:47.16 | Mornx | holycow, for projects that aren't forked apple does actively work with and contribute, think apache |
| 10:47.19 | Fri13 | im trying find out how i get kerry/beagle to KDE open/save dialog |
| 10:47.23 | Jucato | I actually don't know how to use SUSE :) |
| 10:47.29 | Jucato | but I guess it would be installed by default |
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| 10:48.02 | Fri13 | Jucato: i dont remember was or not have installed by default |
| 10:48.08 | holycow | Mornx, i should probably look into apple further and see what i may not beseing |
| 10:48.13 | Jucato | let me try. how do you use it? |
| 10:48.18 | Fri13 | Jucato: do you use that kerry kio on save/open dialog? |
| 10:48.45 | Jucato | I see it. whether I use it... that's another question :) |
| 10:49.09 | Fri13 | Jucato: just open something with KDE software what shows that normal save/open and leftside where are all quickbuttons is "kerry" and clickin it, focus jumps to upper addressbar on that window and you can type search words. |
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| 10:49.41 | Mornx | holycow, a problem with darwin has been trying to build a working OS out of the source code without the close source drivers |
| 10:49.42 | Jucato | or "beagle:/" |
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| 10:49.58 | holycow | Mornx, *nod* thats what i read |
| 10:50.03 | Jucato | Fri13: installed here by default |
| 10:50.13 | Fri13 | Jucato: yes, that is pure kio-beagle but i like to have kerry to left quicklist :-/ |
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| 10:50.30 | Mornx | basically someone is going to have to write replacement drivers in open source |
| 10:50.35 | Fri13 | Hmm... mayby it would work if i get kio-beagle installed to mandriva too... |
| 10:50.45 | holycow | why can't their drivers be open source? |
| 10:50.55 | Jucato | isn't kerry just a KDE frontend to beagle? |
| 10:51.13 | Mornx | holycow, apple is a company, they work closely with intel and ati for starters, they are able to get those companies code |
| 10:51.20 | holycow | *yawn* |
| 10:51.28 | holycow | they owe their existence to bsd |
| 10:51.45 | holycow | therefore they owe it to everyone in that community to go above and beyond to change the status quo |
| 10:52.29 | Mornx | they want good drivers, so they go to the hardware makers for assistance ;) |
| 10:52.33 | Jucato | Fri13: anything else you want me to check before I put suse to sleep? |
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| 10:52.48 | Fri13 | Jucato: no, i dont think so... :-) |
| 10:52.51 | Fri13 | nope... |
| 10:52.55 | Fri13 | thanks.. :-) |
| 10:53.09 | Fri13 | brb |
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| 10:53.40 | Jucato | ugh! kickoff is a chore if you're not used to a touchpad :( |
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| 10:55.14 | Fri13 | too bad... i dont get kio-beagle work... only thing what i miss from suse :-( |
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| 10:55.40 | eeos | in kde 3.5.6, is there any application to manage your mobile phone from the laptop using bluetooth (sending sms and so on)? |
| 10:55.59 | eeos | I got the telephone recognised and see it in konqueror |
| 10:56.11 | Jucato | eeos: try kmobiletools (and #kmobiletools ) |
| 10:56.18 | eeos | but I cannot open any external client that allows me to send sms |
| 10:56.32 | eeos | Jucato: I have tried it but does not integrate with konqueror |
| 10:56.35 | eeos | Jucato: :( |
| 10:56.45 | Jucato | ah |
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| 11:27.34 | amigrave | is it possible to add a keyboard shortcut to a bash script without adding the script to the menu ? |
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| 11:36.32 | jandro | hello, i have a question about kontact, specially with korganizer. How do I select in which calendar do i want to save my new event without unselecting the other show calendars? Thanks |
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| 11:48.37 | Sho_ | pinotree: Ironically, flameeyes actually *put in* some patches at my request ;) |
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| 12:01.38 | qupada | yeah yeah, can we crown you miss universe already and get it over with? |
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| 12:02.53 | icwiener | Yes, please. |
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| 12:07.58 | ma3x | where is the button kdesktop used to minimize all the windows? |
| 12:08.05 | ma3x | how do I make a shortcut of it |
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| 12:09.59 | asyd | hello. I'm looking for a way to have konsole in *full*screen mode. ie w/o kwin decorations |
| 12:10.12 | mardi | ma3x: right click kicker, select Add applet to panel |
| 12:10.34 | asyd | since I use black as background, if I use the default fullscreen mode, I have two annoying blank lines at border |
| 12:10.37 | ma3x | thanks |
| 12:10.39 | ma3x | one more thing |
| 12:10.47 | ma3x | I use debian stable |
| 12:10.49 | ma3x | and I believe this is bug |
| 12:10.59 | ma3x | when I add network bandwidth metering |
| 12:11.11 | ma3x | if I have the taskbar in large size, it displays the number |
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| 12:12.29 | ma3x | if I make it small or tiny it doesnt display it |
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| 12:15.19 | asyd | how to edit windows properties by window class ? |
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| 12:18.01 | Sho_ | Make a rule that matches all windows with that window class? |
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| 12:21.27 | asyd | Sho_: where ? :) |
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| 12:22.33 | Sho_ | KControl -> Desktop -> Window-Specific Settings |
| 12:22.49 | Sho_ | Sorry, your question was so specific I assumed you had found that already |
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| 12:31.19 | mardi_soir | does some one know a way to sync firefox and konqueror bookmarks withou manual action ? |
| 12:32.17 | Sho_ | mardi_soir: If the file format is compatible, you can set Firefox to use bookmarks.html from a certain path outside its profile dir |
| 12:33.14 | Sho_ | mardi_soir: user_pref("browser.bookmarks.file", "/path/to/bookmarks.html"); in the FF profile's prefs.js |
| 12:33.37 | mardi_soir | i look thanks |
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| 12:35.53 | mardi_soir | Sho_: > outch .. konqueror use xml file |
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| 12:40.37 | sabayonlive-2345 | im lookin for force quit and i cant find it |
| 12:40.46 | _Johny | Jucato, Hello |
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| 12:44.13 | _Johny | I've recently experienced the strangest thing , I've ever discovered in KDE |
| 12:47.09 | smileaf | _Johny: this a guessing game or are you going to enlighten us? =) |
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| 12:47.09 | _Johny | I don't know how come was it possible but some my application just lost their config files, including bash... Bash.rc just disappeared like the other files |
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| 12:47.11 | oneforall | just wondering if there is a patch or somethign to have kde use the viewports with compiz / |
| 12:47.12 | smileaf | _Johny: I don't think kde caused that... |
| 12:47.12 | AmyRose | Compiz really sucks on KDE |
| 12:47.12 | _Johny | smileaf, never claimed that |
| 12:47.13 | smileaf | _Johny: just making a statement ;) |
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| 12:47.13 | _Johny | Hve anyone ever had such as experience |
| 12:47.32 | _Johny | smileaf, Amarok configs have been wiped out as well |
| 12:47.44 | smileaf | _Johny: I had someone lose all of their dot files in their home directory before.. well.. not lose them just moved. |
| 12:47.54 | tuxick | i don't see how "kde" would remove your bashr |
| 12:47.55 | tuxick | c |
| 12:47.57 | smileaf | they moved them to ~/System Files =) |
| 12:48.02 | _Johny | neither do I |
| 12:48.30 | _Johny | smileaf, How come those files moved, do you know? |
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| 12:48.58 | smileaf | _Johny: they didn't like how much they cluttered up their home directory after they turned on show hidden files, so they manually moved them. lol |
| 12:50.09 | _Johny | ok |
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| 12:51.00 | _Johny | ok |
| 12:51.51 | _Johny | Jucato, -:D |
| 12:52.18 | smileaf | Jucato: your list gets longer and longer =p |
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| 12:53.19 | _Johny | Jucato, I'm just courious what IRC client you're using... |
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| 12:53.59 | Jucato | _Johny: konversation (of course :P) |
| 12:54.08 | mardi | konversation wooooo!! |
| 12:54.14 | mardi | ..sorry |
| 12:54.32 | Jucato | smileaf: I would have added annma if she were here... and I didn't want to wake up canllaith :) |
| 12:54.33 | Jucato | oops... |
| 12:54.33 | _Johny | That0s what I thought about -:D |
| 12:54.37 | smileaf | mardi: how could you.. your going to make Sho_'s head bigger. |
| 12:54.49 | Jucato | it isn't already? |
| 12:54.51 | smileaf | poor boy won't be able to walk straight :( |
| 12:54.57 | smileaf | hehe |
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| 13:03.43 | thiago | here |
| 13:03.46 | Jucato | :) |
| 13:04.24 | shal3r | OK, with some torrents ktorrent is freezing and floods messages like this one: Qt: Warning: ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h (373) |
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| 13:04.38 | thiago | which version? |
| 13:05.07 | shal3r | 2.1.3 |
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| 13:19.11 | silver_hook | I have two questions |
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| 13:20.36 | DeFender1031 | don't stated that you have a question, it will be obvious when you ask it that you had one |
| 13:20.40 | DeFender1031 | state* |
| 13:20.47 | silver_hook | 1) Is there a shortcut in KPDF to go to the next/previous bookmark? And what does that "next"/"previous" button does anyway, if not that? |
| 13:20.59 | litb | does logging out using KDM restart X? |
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| 13:23.11 | silver_hook | 2) Is it possible to make a shortcut/link that would open up the PDF at a specific bookmark (e.g. I have the "official paper" in PDF with many law acts in it, but want KPDF to open it at the beginning of one if I click one link and at the beginning of another if I click another link) |
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| 13:24.40 | silver_hook | litb: AFAIK it depends on how you set it - you can either tell it to restart X on each logout or not |
| 13:25.13 | litb | cool |
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| 13:27.15 | litb | hmm, i don't find the option in kdmrc |
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| 13:29.28 | silver_hook | litb: hm then directly in xdm settings |
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| 13:32.06 | litb | now i do "killall -TERM X" in Xreset :) |
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| 13:35.07 | litb | seems that that don't work |
| 13:35.09 | litb | :( |
| 13:35.11 | litb | kdm exits too |
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| 13:37.40 | silver_hook | litb: odd, i'm pretty sure you're able to choose it, but no idea where |
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| 13:40.28 | litb | i wonder what i can do with kdmctl |
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| 13:42.45 | roxy_ | hi, I installed french gut dictionnary. I can see it from the tool in qantas, but it doesn't work because doesn't recognise éèà. |
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| 13:43.11 | roxy_ | my system is debian and everything is utf-8 |
| 13:46.49 | litb | hmm, is there a way to emulate ctrl+alt+del |
| 13:46.52 | litb | ? |
| 13:47.12 | DeFender1031 | litb, what? |
| 13:47.30 | thiago | what do you want to accomplish? |
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| 13:48.10 | DeFender1031 | thiago, i think he's asking for a process table to come up on ctrl-alt-del |
| 13:48.16 | litb | i want that my X restarts |
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| 13:48.25 | DeFender1031 | oh |
| 13:48.35 | litb | so, when i logout with KDM, that X is restarted then |
| 13:49.14 | litb | because only if i do ctrl+alt+del after i loggedout, then DRIdoes work. if i don't press these keys, DRI will ot work after relogin |
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| 13:49.46 | litb | so, i want to isue that keycombo right after logout with Xreset form /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/ |
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| 13:59.05 | thiago | you want to restart your system? |
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| 14:05.13 | litb | oh, bahh |
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| 14:05.29 | litb | i of course meant ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 14:06.20 | Lanken | bad news for KDE, good news for linux. |
| 14:06.24 | Lanken | http://news.com.com/Dell+picks+Ubuntu+for+Linux+PCs/2100-7344_3-6180419.html |
| 14:06.49 | tuxick | afair slackware stopped providing gnome |
| 14:06.55 | tuxick | "too much hassle" |
| 14:07.05 | Lanken | hah. too bad ubuntu hasn't seen the light. :\ |
| 14:07.32 | tuxick | that's what kubuntu is about |
| 14:07.44 | tuxick | installing kde on ubuntu is simple enough anyway |
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| 14:08.01 | Lanken | yep, but it doesn't have good performance (at least not as of Dapper) |
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| 14:08.28 | litb | well, i finallysolved the issue |
| 14:08.34 | tuxick | \o/ |
| 14:08.47 | litb | i just do "killall -HUP X" in Xreset |
| 14:09.12 | litb | this is the signal which is sent when the user does ctrl+alt+backspace i think |
| 14:09.41 | litb | too bad that that kills all Xservers and not just the current one o.O |
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| 14:10.32 | JohnFlux | ma3x: you cna't |
| 14:10.36 | JohnFlux | ma3x: you can't |
| 14:10.40 | ma3x | JohnFlux, hi mate |
| 14:10.44 | ma3x | so how can I fix the bug? |
| 14:10.45 | JohnFlux | :) |
| 14:10.52 | JohnFlux | upgrade to 3.5.6 |
| 14:11.19 | ma3x | what the whole kde/ |
| 14:11.21 | ma3x | ?? |
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| 14:11.41 | litb | well, there is a .X<DPYNR>lock , perhaps i could use that... |
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| 14:12.53 | ma3x | JohnFlux, what package ksysgyardd or ksysgyard? |
| 14:13.33 | JohnFlux | ksysguard |
| 14:13.36 | Jucato | ksysguard |
| 14:13.37 | Jucato | bah |
| 14:14.05 | ma3x | dont confuse eachother |
| 14:14.12 | ma3x | hope that wont break thing |
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| 14:20.14 | smileaf | hehe |
| 14:20.16 | smileaf | oops |
| 14:20.43 | ma3x | what are you oopsing |
| 14:20.54 | stoned | hey ma3x |
| 14:20.58 | stoned | you suck :) |
| 14:21.00 | smileaf | my laughter =p |
| 14:21.05 | Jucato | O.o |
| 14:21.06 | stoned | j/k man |
| 14:21.08 | ma3x | hey stoned your music sucks |
| 14:21.12 | stoned | hehe |
| 14:21.17 | ma3x | hey stoned want me to fart on your head? |
| 14:21.27 | ma3x | my fart smells very nice |
| 14:21.29 | stoned | only if it smells like roses |
| 14:22.03 | ma3x | it smells like rotten carrots |
| 14:22.16 | Alethes | now now children |
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| 14:22.33 | vdv | hi all |
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| 14:22.59 | Alethes | howdy vdv |
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| 14:23.20 | vdv | what i need to run kdevelop package? (beside kdelibs and kdebase) |
| 14:23.29 | Alethes | vdv: Jucato is on call right now, so any questions you have, just direct them to him |
| 14:23.30 | Alethes | :D |
| 14:23.52 | Alethes | vdv: might ask #kdevelop |
| 14:23.55 | ma3x | JohnFlux, i upgraded still on hope |
| 14:23.56 | Alethes | they'll know for sure |
| 14:23.58 | ma3x | should i retsartkde / |
| 14:24.14 | JohnFlux | ma3x: just ksysguard |
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| 14:25.05 | ma3x | JohnFlux, nothing |
| 14:25.16 | ma3x | let met restart kde |
| 14:25.39 | JohnFlux | ma3x: okay |
| 14:25.44 | JohnFlux | ma3x: did you upgrade to 3.5.6? |
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| 14:30.59 | vdv | is anybody here who's running kde4 now? |
| 14:31.18 | pinotree | hm, why? |
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| 14:32.01 | Lanken | ~kde4.0 |
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| 14:32.07 | Lanken | ~kde |
| 14:32.09 | apt | The next major revision of KDE -- KDE 4.0 -- will be released when it's ready, not before. We don't know when that will be, despite the dot article. It will most likely be in 2007 or 2008, but it could be later. |
| 14:32.09 | Lanken | ~kde4 |
| 14:32.11 | apt | The next major revision of KDE -- KDE 4.0 -- will be released when it's ready, not before. However, the current target date is October 23rd, 2007 (see http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule). |
| 14:32.13 | Jucato | apt is on vacation |
| 14:32.16 | pinotree | no bot |
| 14:32.43 | Lanken | I'm curious what kde 4.0 is in relation to kde4 |
| 14:32.54 | Lanken | is it ... just one version of kde4? |
| 14:33.13 | Skrot- | yes, it's the first version of KDE 4 |
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| 14:33.44 | Jucato | Lanken: it will be the first release for the KDE 4 release |
| 14:34.05 | Jucato | KDE 4 covers an entire lifecycle. like KDE 3 covers KDE 3.0 up to KDE 3.5.7 |
| 14:34.17 | Lanken | and pre-release, there will be kde 4.0 beta? |
| 14:34.21 | Lanken | and so forth? |
| 14:34.29 | Skrot- | Probably |
| 14:35.29 | Skrot- | Or http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Roadmap |
| 14:35.30 | Jucato | but it would be a KDE 4 beta, not a kde 4.0 beta. (there are no other beta releases afaik) |
| 14:35.44 | Skrot- | Won't it be KDE 4.0 Beta 1, Beta 2, etc? |
| 14:36.11 | Jucato | I mean, there would probably be no kde 4.1 beta... not really sure... |
| 14:36.16 | Skrot- | right |
| 14:36.28 | Skrot- | hehe |
| 14:36.53 | Skrot- | The 3-series convinced be as well :) |
| 14:37.03 | Skrot- | me* |
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| 14:37.40 | ma3x | JohnFlux, bug is not fixed |
| 14:37.59 | ma3x | 2 digits number will display, but 3 digits wont |
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| 14:40.24 | JohnFlux | ma3x: hmm, yeah it doesn't automatically change the width |
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| 14:45.26 | roland_ | how do i use text to speech |
| 14:45.57 | JohnFlux | roland_: in a web page? |
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| 14:46.10 | roland_ | no i have a pdf, but i'll export it to text |
| 14:46.15 | roland_ | i want it to recite what it writes |
| 14:47.06 | JohnFlux | roland_: kpdf does speech to text |
| 14:47.11 | JohnFlux | just select the text, then chose speak text |
| 14:47.14 | roland_ | oh wtf |
| 14:47.18 | roland_ | coolies? |
| 14:47.19 | ma3x | JohnFlux, still ther? |
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| 14:47.22 | ma3x | I didnt get ur reply |
| 14:48.06 | JohnFlux | [15:40] <JohnFlux> ma3x: hmm, yeah it doesn't automatically change the width |
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| 14:48.42 | ma3x | JohnFlux, are you working on kde? |
| 14:48.59 | JohnFlux | ma3x: i work on ksysguard |
| 14:49.00 | ma3x | how are you participating? |
| 14:49.02 | JohnFlux | :-) |
| 14:49.02 | ma3x | as a developer? |
| 14:49.12 | JohnFlux | yeah, it's my project |
| 14:49.15 | JohnFlux | i'm tha maintainer |
| 14:49.19 | ma3x | you're like the guy who invented ksysguard? |
| 14:49.20 | Jucato | :) |
| 14:49.28 | ma3x | or just maintaining it? |
| 14:49.32 | JohnFlux | ma3x: not invented, but took over :-) |
| 14:49.42 | JohnFlux | i'm the only developer on it |
| 14:50.01 | JohnFlux | for the last year or so anyway |
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| 14:50.12 | vbgunz | is there a way to create a shortcut to turn on the screensaver? |
| 14:50.25 | ma3x | JohnFlux, well can't you fix this little detail? |
| 14:50.38 | wolsni | JohnFlux: you're working on some nice improvements though, right? |
| 14:50.52 | logixoul | vbgunz: try dcopping to kdesktop or sth |
| 14:51.00 | Jucato | vbgunz: look into dcop |
| 14:51.04 | wolsni | vbgunz: there's probably a dcop call |
| 14:51.05 | JohnFlux | wolsni: yeah, have you seen the new screenshots of the process list? |
| 14:51.06 | Jucato | use kdcop to browse through |
| 14:51.20 | vbgunz | kdcop, ok |
| 14:51.28 | JohnFlux | ma3x: it would mean it would be resizing all the time.. |
| 14:51.32 | wolsni | JohnFlux: no, got a link? |
| 14:51.32 | JohnFlux | ma3x: the width |
| 14:52.28 | ma3x | JohnFlux, can't you just change the font size? |
| 14:52.31 | ma3x | to something little |
| 14:52.32 | vbgunz | no, not sure how to use dcop but searched for screensaver and the list blanked. I also "apropos screensaver" and got some hits but those aren't programs :/ |
| 14:52.52 | JohnFlux | wolsni: http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/653/ksysguard4dm1.png |
| 14:53.00 | JohnFlux | ma3x: Qt won't let me make it any smaller than that |
| 14:53.03 | wolsni | vbgunz: I'll take a look |
| 14:53.07 | wolsni | one moment |
| 14:53.12 | vbgunz | ok, thanks :) |
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| 14:55.05 | wolsni | vbgunz: plenty of screensaver manipulation stuff in kdesktop->KScreensaverIface |
| 14:55.06 | ma3x | JohnFlux, f**k qt :p |
| 14:55.19 | Jucato | O.o |
| 14:55.31 | wolsni | ma3x: ?? |
| 14:55.31 | vbgunz | wolsni, I'll look again |
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| 14:56.28 | vbgunz | wolsni: wierd, I swear I searched for screensaver and the list blanked out. now it shows what you're talking about |
| 14:56.50 | JohnFlux | ma3x: for kde4 I'm thinking of having each display thing on kicker be independant |
| 14:56.58 | ma3x | wolsni, what |
| 14:57.00 | JohnFlux | ma3x: so you can resize each one, move it about etc |
| 14:57.14 | ma3x | JohnFlux, yeah make it highly customizable |
| 14:57.16 | vbgunz | ok, I have something highlighted in kdcop, how do I call it? |
| 14:57.25 | JohnFlux | ma3x: you can change the width of all the displays |
| 14:57.33 | logixoul | vbgunz: double clicky |
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| 14:57.48 | JohnFlux | ma3x: would that help? you can click on the little arrow on the left of the displays |
| 14:57.52 | JohnFlux | ma3x: and configure system guard |
| 14:57.58 | JohnFlux | ma3x: then change the size ratio |
| 14:57.59 | logixoul | vbgunz: or write the path to it after dcop in a commandline. like dcop kicker kicker quit. |
| 14:58.08 | wolsni | vbgunz: or the commandline 'dcop' for scripting |
| 14:58.13 | vbgunz | hmm, I need to learn dcop, dclicking aint working or I am messing with the wrong options :/ |
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| 14:58.44 | vbgunz | oh |
| 14:59.04 | vbgunz | I dclicked "void lock()" what I want and it worked :) |
| 14:59.09 | wolsni | vbgunz: the command you want is 'dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface save' |
| 14:59.16 | ma3x | JohnFlux, the percentage? |
| 14:59.35 | ma3x | JohnFlux, I know but height is still too much |
| 14:59.35 | wolsni | or lock for password protection |
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| 15:00.22 | vbgunz | wolsni: you really don't surprise me sometimes, thanks for the tip :) |
| 15:00.47 | vbgunz | btw, what does "copy" in the dcop interface do? it aint copying what I am messing with :/ |
| 15:01.01 | JohnFlux | ma3x: what do you mean the height is too much? |
| 15:01.12 | JohnFlux | ma3x: it uses the height of kicker |
| 15:01.29 | ma3x | JohnFlux, still I'd like to make the font height smaller |
| 15:01.31 | JohnFlux | ma3x: you mean the text is too high to fit in the display? |
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| 15:01.45 | ma3x | JohnFlux, it fits but maximum |
| 15:01.46 | JohnFlux | ma3x: you're using a small kicker right? |
| 15:01.49 | wolsni | vbgunz: maybe it copies the results of a command? |
| 15:01.49 | ma3x | I want it more centered |
| 15:01.51 | ma3x | JohnFlux, tiny |
| 15:01.57 | JohnFlux | yeah |
| 15:02.11 | JohnFlux | ma3x: ɪ can make it smaller if I switch it to a label at small sizes |
| 15:02.16 | JohnFlux | or always make it a label |
| 15:02.21 | JohnFlux | instead of a led display |
| 15:02.30 | vbgunz | I am going to look more into dcop, this little utility looks very cool |
| 15:02.38 | wolsni | vbgunz: that's it |
| 15:02.46 | vbgunz | wolsni: ? |
| 15:02.53 | wolsni | vbgunz: maybe it copies the results of a command? |
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| 15:03.15 | vbgunz | sorry, oh. it would have been nice if it could copy the path to a command too or something ;) |
| 15:03.48 | wolsni | also, the kdcop search bar only searches expanded entries |
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| 15:04.18 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: i was sort of toying with the idea of letting you send dcop commands with ksysguard |
| 15:04.44 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: probably overkill etc though |
| 15:04.47 | ma3x | JohnFlux, I know you can do it - now can I do it?? |
| 15:05.02 | ma3x | JohnFlux, let me tell you a story |
| 15:05.04 | vbgunz | JohnFlux: what do you mean? |
| 15:05.56 | ma3x | some time ago I somehow added those network monitors as "dancing bars" and they appeared as multimeters with small fontsize and with a "data" label on the top. and it was perfect |
| 15:06.03 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: so from the process list, you'd see the application, right click, then see all the dcop commands that you send to it |
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| 15:06.09 | ma3x | however its not able to reproduce that little nice bug now |
| 15:06.10 | JohnFlux | vbgunz: i dunno something like that :-) |
| 15:06.28 | vbgunz | ahh |
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| 15:06.38 | vbgunz | JohnFlux: that is something to keep in mind though |
| 15:07.03 | vbgunz | maybe version 1.5.0 or 2 :) |
| 15:07.20 | Fri13 | JohnFlux: what precess list you are talkin about? :-) just notices that dcop command list.. |
| 15:07.35 | Fri13 | process |
| 15:07.49 | JohnFlux | Fri13: it's just an idea. the process list when you press ctrl+esc |
| 15:08.06 | JohnFlux | ma3x: and you can read that? it must be like font size 3 or something? |
| 15:08.17 | ma3x | JohnFlux, maybe 3-5 |
| 15:08.20 | ma3x | how do I make it? |
| 15:08.44 | JohnFlux | ma3x: so chosing dancing bars now doesn't work the same or what? |
| 15:09.09 | Fri13 | JohnFlux: Hmm.. i was hoping there was somekind graphical version for it :-/... mayby KDE4 could support dbus for that. |
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| 15:09.21 | vbgunz | Ctrl+Alt+L ... |
| 15:09.23 | Fri13 | or 4.1 better. |
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| 15:10.20 | Ix0s | Anyone point me in the direction of a nice icons site? |
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| 15:10.28 | JohnFlux | Fri13: there is - kdcop |
| 15:10.32 | ma3x | JohnFlux, chosing dancing bars works. but before (maybe with an earlier version of ksysguard chosing dancing bars would add multimeter like thing) and it would work perfectly |
| 15:10.39 | Jucato | Ix0s: http://www.kde-look.org |
| 15:10.45 | ma3x | JohnFlux, and they were labeled "data" |
| 15:10.48 | ma3x | does that tell you something? |
| 15:10.59 | JohnFlux | ma3x: i see a label and a value |
| 15:11.06 | JohnFlux | ma3x: i'm using a larger kicker though |
| 15:11.47 | ma3x | JohnFlux, what label? |
| 15:12.18 | JohnFlux | ma3x: like I dragged a cpu idle sensor to the panel, and chose dancing bars |
| 15:12.31 | JohnFlux | ma3x: it says "idle" then underneath "82" (the value) |
| 15:12.45 | ma3x | let me try |
| 15:13.58 | ma3x | JohnFlux, exactly!!! how do I do that with the eth1 data receiving data? |
| 15:14.14 | JohnFlux | same way? |
| 15:14.34 | ma3x | JohnFlux, it displays horizontal lines (bars) |
| 15:14.35 | Fri13 | JohnFlux: thanks about that kdcop |
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| 15:15.13 | JohnFlux | Fri13: :-) |
| 15:15.29 | JohnFlux | ma3x: for kde4 I'll change the multimeter thing to an ordinary label instead of a led widget |
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| 15:15.47 | JohnFlux | ma3x: that way I won't be limited by its text size |
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| 15:16.21 | ma3x | JohnFlux, just do it like when you add cpu idle as dancing bars. I like that font size |
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| 15:16.43 | JohnFlux | ma3x: *nod* okay will do |
| 15:16.44 | ma3x | JohnFlux, it would take 1 year for kde4 to get to debian etch |
| 15:16.50 | ma3x | maybe we wont be alive till then |
| 15:17.19 | Mornx | what's debian, I forgot |
| 15:17.20 | JohnFlux | yeah it can be a pain how long it takes to push changes through |
| 15:17.24 | JohnFlux | I don't have the kde3 code installed, and I probably shouldn't make such changes to it |
| 15:17.29 | wolsni | ma3x: got some terrible disease or what? |
| 15:17.38 | JohnFlux | Mornx: a linux distro |
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| 15:18.17 | wolsni | besides, if you want to run recent stuff Debian stable is not the distro to use |
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| 15:18.51 | ma3x | wolsni, I dunno I get some inside pulse thing in my left ear, it feels like I'll get brain impact or something |
| 15:19.02 | ma3x | wolsni, something ticking in my ear/head |
| 15:19.06 | ma3x | dunno how to describe |
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| 15:21.32 | wolsni | sounds like hypochondria to me :P |
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| 15:22.39 | Mornx | ma3x, relax it's just a vein or something throbbing, sometimes happens |
| 15:23.00 | Mornx | haven't you noticed that? sometimes things throb for no reason |
| 15:23.01 | ma3x | Mornx, exactly like a vein pumping fast |
| 15:23.13 | ma3x | but it happens almost every day |
| 15:23.24 | Mornx | ma3x, well I dunno, file a bug report with god |
| 15:23.40 | ma3x | haha |
| 15:24.00 | ma3x | fuck it |
| 15:24.52 | Mornx | unfortunately we have natural selection not god, natural selection seems to make buggy products ;) |
| 15:25.27 | wolsni | but bug-free enough to work |
| 15:25.40 | Mornx | often, but, why open a medical book ;) |
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| 15:36.06 | Mornx | is that good or bad ;) |
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| 15:38.54 | Alethes | unpredictable |
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| 15:43.13 | eeos | Jucato: hi there |
| 15:43.34 | Jucato | hi eeos |
| 15:43.41 | eeos | Jucato: I have been able to make kmobiletools work, but not integrate with konqueror :( |
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| 15:43.51 | Jucato | aw... :( |
| 15:43.57 | Jucato | well at least you're halfway there... |
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| 15:44.16 | eeos | Jucato: have you ever tried to synchronise the contacts on your mobile phone with the contacts your kde kontact? |
| 15:44.37 | Jucato | nope... |
| 15:44.46 | Jucato | I never had any success with it. :( |
| 15:44.51 | eeos | Jucato: ah :( |
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| 15:48.16 | eeos | Jucato: I have such a log list of numbers and contacts that I was hoping to synchronise |
| 15:48.47 | Jucato | me too... |
| 15:49.06 | Jucato | I wish I could sync my 2 phone's contacts with kaddressbook... |
| 15:49.10 | Jucato | they're all out of sync :( |
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| 15:53.01 | eeos | Jucato: same here |
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| 15:53.20 | eeos | Jucato: well, I have only one, but need to synchronise also my wifes |
| 15:55.10 | Alethes | I need to sync my phone with the woman I'm stalking |
| 15:55.16 | Alethes | :D |
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| 15:56.36 | eeos | Alethes: bad man |
| 15:57.16 | eeos | anyway ......................... where is the expert in mobile devices in kde synchronisation? |
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| 15:57.45 | n8k99 | you might find them lurking in #kontact |
| 15:58.00 | kramed | synce? |
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| 16:15.10 | roxy_ | is nspluginviewer always packed with konqueror or is it a debian thing ? |
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| 16:15.49 | pusling | roxy_: it is a part of kdebase. |
| 16:16.13 | pinotree | pusling: can you jump in #kpdf please? |
| 16:17.21 | roxy_ | pusling: it keep segfaulting on my debian testing amd64. Where should the stacktrace and bug report goes ? |
| 16:17.57 | pusling | roxy_: try the unstable version. I think one of the debian packagers have fixed it (and pushed it upstream) |
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| 16:18.10 | roxy_ | pusling: nice, thanks |
| 16:18.56 | atomik | hi all |
| 16:19.26 | atomik | "kfmclient: ERROR: Couldn't start konqueror from konqueror.desktop: Could not find service 'konqueror.desktop'." <-- someone has an idea of this problem (with the cmd:kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing) ? |
| 16:19.28 | atomik | thanks |
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| 16:28.26 | darkstego | hey all, I have a problem with changing timezones in KDE, only UTC is shown. Anyone know how to fix that? |
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| 16:37.28 | Lanken | man, Kpresenter is not at all *there* |
| 16:37.52 | Lanken | it hogs CPU for even the most minimal tasks. what's up with that? |
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| 16:38.18 | Lanken | I'm not talking about compatability with other formats at all; I started from scratch for this presentation. |
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| 16:38.39 | darkstego | koffice needs a bit more work |
| 16:39.26 | Lanken | I'd say rather "koffice 1.6 (the only one I've used) is nothing like a release product." |
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| 16:40.13 | Lanken | this is the level of crappiness I associate with a student proof-of-concept project. |
| 16:40.50 | Lanken | surely 2.0 will absolutely blow me away. |
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| 16:41.10 | Lanken | a great office suite isn't really critical to KDE, since a lot of people seem to be happy with OO.o. |
| 16:41.44 | wolsni | well, OO.o leaves a lot to be desired |
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| 16:42.45 | darkstego | I personally don't like OO.o, I would much rather prefer koffice, I think the move to qt4 really provides a lot of support for the koffice folk |
| 16:43.09 | darkstego | but koffice is still not ready. |
| 16:43.50 | GNU\colossus | I've used koffice a lot in the past, happen to like it a lot more than any other "productivity suite" available out there, and am very satisfied with it |
| 16:44.15 | versuchsanstalt | How can I configure kmail to use firefox to visit a website linked in an email? (kontact 1.2.3, debian stable) |
| 16:44.32 | spawn57 | do any of you know about software raid? |
| 16:44.34 | darkstego | I don't see OO.o improving dramaticly, the codebase is too large and messy to maintain properly |
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| 16:44.43 | GNU\colossus | spawn57: yeah, me |
| 16:44.45 | pinotree | versuchsanstalt: either you configure it for kde as a whole, or not |
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| 16:45.13 | versuchsanstalt | pinotree: great, thats ok |
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| 16:45.40 | spawn57 | GNU\colossus: one of the drivers on my raid1 is about to fail, it's also the / partition. any idea what have to do or wehre I have look to replace the disk and rebuild the array? |
| 16:46.03 | versuchsanstalt | pinotree: which keyword should i look for in kcontrol? |
| 16:46.20 | pinotree | versuchsanstalt: in case, kde control center -> kde components -> component chooser |
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| 16:46.41 | GNU\colossus | spawn57: clone its partition layout using fdisk, pop in a new drive, read mdadms manpage and don't worry |
| 16:47.01 | spawn57 | GNU\colossus: got an offline back up heh |
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| 16:47.04 | darkstego | that brings up an interesting usability point, its hard to find where to set default browser in control ceter |
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| 16:47.59 | versuchsanstalt | pinotree: great, i got it. thank you for pointing out. |
| 16:48.08 | spawn57 | GNU\colossus: hmm so I have to clone the partitions eh, apparently the rebuild is automatic once I put in the drive. only thing is that it's my root partition too so I might have to move the disks around |
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| 16:49.02 | upd | hi |
| 16:49.22 | upd | wher can i turn on transparent kmenu |
| 16:49.41 | pinotree | kde control center -> look & themes -> style -> advanced |
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| 16:51.13 | Fri13 | pinotree: Im having problem there, KDE dont keep my setting "menu shadow off". Everytime i log in it is enabled.. is there config file what i can check? |
| 16:51.34 | Fri13 | and KDE even apply menu shadow even effects are off. |
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| 16:52.24 | upd | pinotree, thanks |
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| 16:52.54 | GNU\colossus | spawn57: don't you use filesystem labels to identify them? |
| 16:53.00 | GNU\colossus | or UUIDs? |
| 16:53.21 | spawn57 | its' debian sarge, so /dev/hda .../dev/hdc .. |
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| 16:54.32 | GNU\colossus | well, it's up to you to change that then ;) |
| 16:55.05 | spawn57 | it'll change when I upgrade to etch |
| 16:55.29 | chealer | is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for a Konqueror bookmark? something like Firefox's keywords would be interesting. |
| 16:56.21 | wolsni | chealer: yes, and there are a ton included by default |
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| 16:56.48 | chealer | [wolsni:] how can it be done? |
| 16:57.20 | wolsni | "Web Shortcuts" in the konqueror settings lists them |
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| 16:58.03 | chealer | wolsni: are Web Shortcuts really associated to bookmarks? |
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| 16:58.28 | wolsni | no, they're not bookmarks |
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| 16:58.49 | wolsni | how would that work? |
| 16:59.19 | chealer | wolsni: do you know Firefox keywords? |
| 17:00.33 | wolsni | um, no |
| 17:00.48 | wolsni | that's why I'm asking :) |
| 17:01.30 | chealer | wolsni: do you see the Keyword field in Firefox/Iceweasel bookmark management? |
| 17:02.34 | chealer | wolsni: no need to use it, just check it, assuming it's installed. |
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| 17:03.29 | wolsni | so what IS the functionality you're asking about? |
| 17:03.55 | chealer | wolsni: did you see the Firefox functionality I'm talking about? |
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| 17:04.47 | wolsni | I don't KNOW what functionality you're talking about |
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| 17:05.25 | chealer | wolsni: OK, so do you see the Keyword field in Firefox/Iceweasel bookmark management? |
| 17:06.14 | wolsni | chealer: stop asking me about widgets and just say what you mean |
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| 17:07.25 | chealer | wolsni: I'm looking for a way to set a keyboard shortcut or keyword for a Konqueror bookmark. |
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| 17:08.38 | wolsni | so you want to type a short nickname for a site and have konqueror go there? |
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| 17:10.39 | chealer | wolsni: that, or a normal keyboard shortcut |
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| 17:11.20 | wolsni | I don't think konqi has either of those features |
| 17:11.30 | chealer | wolsni: OK |
| 17:11.39 | chealer | I'll stay here in case anyone knows. |
| 17:12.06 | GNU\colossus | chealer: that's what "web shortcuts" are for |
| 17:12.17 | wolsni | it will autocomplete URLs from your bookmarks though |
| 17:12.36 | chealer | GNU\colossus: yes but web shortcuts are not associated with bookmarks. I'd have to add the URL twice. |
| 17:12.50 | GNU\colossus | yeah, that's true |
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| 17:13.06 | GNU\colossus | do you already know katapult? it has a bookmark-catalog, too |
| 17:13.19 | GNU\colossus | you'd have to memorize the names of the booksmarks you want to access, though |
| 17:13.55 | wolsni | GNU\colossus: that doesn't help any more than the autocomplete though |
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| 17:14.31 | chealer | GNU\colossus: no... |
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| 17:16.17 | yurimxpxman | how can I assign the multimedia keys for use with Amarok? |
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| 17:16.53 | chealer | yurimxpxman: there's a #amarok |
| 17:17.19 | yurimxpxman | chealer: I know, but I thought this might be a better place because it's more of a KDE issue than an Amarok one |
| 17:17.34 | yung_ | I can't play sound on my Debian 4.0 with alsa device.. anybody has same problem? any document about KDE and alsa device? |
| 17:17.49 | yurimxpxman | yung_: have you tried turning up the PCM? |
| 17:17.53 | chealer | yurimxpxman: probably, I guess I just don't really know what you mean. are you talking about non-standard keys on your keyboard? |
| 17:18.10 | yurimxpxman | chealer: The Play/Pause, Next, Previous, Stop, etc. |
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| 17:18.29 | wolsni | yurimxpxman: what do your multimedia keys show when you test them with xev? |
| 17:18.33 | chealer | yurimxpxman: but with normal keyboard shortcuts are special keyboard keys? |
| 17:18.36 | yurimxpxman | chealer: After I upgraded from Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04, none of my media keys but volume worked |
| 17:18.43 | chealer | s/are/or |
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| 17:20.19 | yurimxpxman | wolsni: I'm not sure which info you need from it |
| 17:20.22 | yung_ | yurimxpxman: I'm using a USB sound, and there is no PCM in the amixer output. |
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| 17:21.21 | yung_ | yurimxpxman: I got "aplay: set_params:965: Unable to install hw params:", when I tried to play with aplay.. |
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| 17:21.36 | wolsni | yurimxpxman: does your play button send the XFree86Play keycode, for example? |
| 17:21.50 | yurimxpxman | wolsni: It doesn't appear to |
| 17:22.14 | wolsni | then you have the wrong keymap |
| 17:22.24 | yurimxpxman | how do I change it? |
| 17:23.29 | wolsni | the "right" way to fix it is in KControl->Regional & Accessibility->Keyboard Layout |
| 17:24.08 | wolsni | you could also use lineak as a workaround |
| 17:26.24 | chealer | yurimxpxman: just curious, but which keyboard model (I just bought a keyboard with nice non-standard keys) |
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| 17:26.41 | yurimxpxman | chealer: I have no idea. It's some old Gateway one I've had for years |
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| 17:28.53 | chealer | yung_: does sounds work outside of KDE? |
| 17:29.23 | stoned | hi |
| 17:29.31 | stoned | how do I save my konsole settings? |
| 17:29.51 | stoned | I have 5 tabs in konsole. laptop,irssi,desktop,bash,shell |
| 17:29.57 | yung_ | chealer: that device works with Gnome with fedora.. |
| 17:30.03 | stoned | when I save settings with settings, save as default |
| 17:30.14 | stoned | it saves but i close konsole and open it agin and my tabs are not restored |
| 17:30.22 | chealer | yung_: but you didn't get it to work in Debian yet? |
| 17:30.26 | stoned | how can I make konsole remember how many tabs, tab positions, and tab names |
| 17:30.28 | stoned | please |
| 17:30.31 | yung_ | chealer: yes |
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| 17:30.50 | chealer | yung_: probably best to ask #debian...but which chipset is it? |
| 17:31.10 | yung_ | chealer: I think it is the problem of alsa version or artsd daemon ... |
| 17:31.41 | yung_ | chealer: I'm using a usb audio device.. It is c-media device |
| 17:31.54 | wolsni | stoned: i don't think konsole does that |
| 17:31.55 | chealer | yung_: if it's just artsd, it shouldn't affect non-KDE applications, such as, say xmoto |
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| 17:32.06 | stoned | wolsni: c'mon man there has gotta be a way |
| 17:32.08 | yurimxpxman | how can I edit my keys manually? I can't find a model that works for me |
| 17:32.11 | stoned | the only way is to manually save session |
| 17:32.20 | stoned | with dcop kmserver kmserver save current session |
| 17:32.28 | stoned | other than that no way to make console remember |
| 17:32.32 | chealer | yung_: which Linux version does the Fedora install which supports your card use? |
| 17:32.42 | yung_ | chealer: Does KDE has any problem reported with ALSA sound? |
| 17:32.48 | wolsni | you could write a script to open several bookmarks I suppose |
| 17:32.52 | yung_ | chear: FC6 |
| 17:33.08 | stoned | no |
| 17:33.09 | stoned | not bookmarks |
| 17:33.13 | zcat | Hey - So I'm running KDE in a dualhead config for longer than just a test-run this time as was wondering if: 1) there's a way to switch the between the kwin's running on displays :0.0 and :0.1 without the mouse, and 2) is there a way to temporarily disable the mouse automatically crossing desktops? |
| 17:33.14 | stoned | i mean tab names and positions |
| 17:33.17 | chealer | yung_: I wouldn't know how to check which Linux version FC6 uses. |
| 17:33.24 | yung_ | chealer: I just finished install kubuntu 7.04 and test my sound with it.. |
| 17:33.29 | wolsni | yung_: use uname |
| 17:33.49 | yung_ | chealer: 2.6.20-1.2933.fc6 |
| 17:34.10 | chealer | yung_: OK. which ALSA version introduced support for your soundcard? |
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| 17:35.02 | yung_ | chealer: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14rc1 (Tue Jan 09 09:56:17 2007 UTC). |
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| 17:35.13 | yung_ | chealer: it is on my FC6 |
| 17:35.40 | yung_ | For the debian I got: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC). |
| 17:35.45 | wolsni | stoned: i know that bookmarks are not exactly what you wanted, but I think that is the closest you'll get without modifying konsole |
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| 17:36.15 | stoned | wolsni: currently the only way to retain all this is by savingsession manually |
| 17:36.20 | chealer | yung_: I know but do you know in which ALSA version support for you card was added? |
| 17:36.20 | wolsni | I imagine you can rename tabs via dcop |
| 17:36.24 | stoned | ala dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession |
| 17:36.41 | stoned | then just make sure you don't close konsole |
| 17:36.47 | stoned | if you do, you have to restart kde |
| 17:36.47 | stoned | :( |
| 17:36.52 | yung_ | chealer: I don't know yet.. |
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| 17:37.03 | stoned | i'll browse around in kdcop |
| 17:37.08 | stoned | see if i can find anything |
| 17:37.11 | stoned | then make a script maybe |
| 17:37.38 | chealer | yung_: if it's really an ALSA problem, you should check that. or, you could just try using unstable's Linux 2.6.20 to see if it works. |
| 17:38.15 | yung_ | OK.. |
| 17:38.20 | stoned | hmm well there is nothing for konsole i kdcrop |
| 17:38.22 | stoned | kdcop |
| 17:39.05 | wolsni | stoned: it only shows up if konsole is running |
| 17:39.22 | stoned | it is running dud |
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| 17:39.38 | stoned | im mean c'mon |
| 17:39.45 | stoned | im stoned, not an idiot ;) |
| 17:40.00 | stoned | i guess i'll have to just make do with savecurrentsession |
| 17:40.01 | stoned | :( |
| 17:40.09 | wolsni | well, I see tons of functions for konsole in kdcop |
| 17:40.15 | stoned | i see nothing |
| 17:40.32 | stoned | 18580 ? S 1:17 konsole [kdeinit] -session 10d8d4e36b000117730028800000140350006_1177568653_908846 |
| 17:40.46 | stoned | kdcop is EMPTY of konsole |
| 17:40.49 | stoned | no konsole functions |
| 17:40.57 | wolsni | okay |
| 17:41.19 | stoned | oh |
| 17:41.21 | stoned | nevermind |
| 17:41.22 | stoned | I see it |
| 17:41.36 | stoned | it shows up after I restart kdcop after starting onsole |
| 17:41.39 | stoned | konsole* |
| 17:41.42 | stoned | i guess it didn't auto update |
| 17:42.00 | stoned | yes you do |
| 17:42.00 | stoned | :) |
| 17:42.02 | wolsni | there's a reload button |
| 17:42.09 | stoned | yeh it should auto update |
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| 17:42.58 | chealer | another question. I'm trying to connect to a remote krfb. the problem is that I only know how to do that when I launch krfb locally on the VNC server, and click configure. I can launch krfb through ssh -X, but it launches as a bash child, which seems to be a problem as soon as I close the ssh connection. I would like to be able to be able to launch krfb remotely, close it, then connect with VNC. I noticed that locally launching krfb in |
| 17:42.58 | chealer | konsole makes it a bash child. but I can make it a kdeinit child using kdeinit_wrapper. unfortunately that doesn't work through ssh (krfb stays a bash child). is this normal? I get a "Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory" when launching with kdeinit_wrapper. |
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| 17:46.14 | wolsni | chealer: the braindead way to work around that is here: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ |
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| 17:49.17 | chealer | wolsni: hum. I'm wondering whether I should learn screen. could you quickly tell me how to do what I want with screen so I can make sure it's worth it? |
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| 17:50.10 | wolsni | chealer: it's very simple, actually |
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| 17:51.40 | wolsni | launch screen, get a new shell, run the command, press ctrl+A,ctrl+D to detach the session, log out and do what you want |
| 17:52.09 | chealer | wolsni: I launch screen on the remote machine? |
| 17:52.21 | wolsni | then to kill the process, screen -r resumes the session |
| 17:52.37 | wolsni | yes, run it on the remote system |
| 17:52.55 | chealer | all right, I'll try |
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| 17:53.44 | GNU\colossus | you can also use dtach |
| 17:53.56 | GNU\colossus | if screen's awesomeness overwhelms you |
| 17:55.05 | wolsni | best to take screen's awesomeness in small chunks :D |
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| 17:58.12 | chealer | wolsni: it seems it doesn't work (no server on the remote side) |
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| 17:58.58 | wolsni | screen doesn't work? |
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| 17:59.25 | chealer | wolsni: it works, but I can't connect through VNC anymore when the session is detached |
| 17:59.27 | ma3x | JohnFlux !!!!!! |
| 18:00.02 | chealer | it's some kind of paradox. if I could use VNC I could launch krfb normally on the remote :S |
| 18:00.18 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.19 | wolsni | well, I have never tried what you're doing |
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| 18:00.56 | feindbild | hi =) |
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| 18:01.10 | wolsni | but detaching the session should have no effect on krfb |
| 18:01.24 | ma3x | JohnFlux, fix the kde applet and mail it to me |
| 18:04.06 | chealer | wolsni: actually the krfb process doesn't run anymore when I detach |
| 18:04.16 | chealer | I don't know how krfb works. |
| 18:04.28 | chealer | it's *too* strange |
| 18:04.30 | wolsni | mrr |
| 18:04.56 | wolsni | are you using ssh -X? |
| 18:05.05 | chealer | wolsni: yes |
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| 18:05.59 | wolsni | ah, I see |
| 18:06.52 | chealer | wolsni: if it wasn't for my ISP's IP addresses cheapness, I'd let you try here. |
| 18:07.03 | wolsni | why not just set krfb to accept uninvited connections |
| 18:07.08 | _kmh_ | i have a problem with KDE menus |
| 18:07.19 | _kmh_ | basically i want to start a shell script (sh) from a menu entry, but i can't get that to work |
| 18:07.39 | _kmh_ | is there anything i need to watch out for ? |
| 18:07.49 | chealer | wolsni: it's set that way, but I always need to launch krfb once each I start KDE to have it work. |
| 18:07.50 | wolsni | chealer: that would be a bit reckless, don't you think? >:) |
| 18:08.25 | wolsni | letting me try, that is |
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| 18:09.50 | zcat | well, looks like I have to resort to two lame dual monitor hacks to do what i want (lock the mouse to one monitor, and switch monitors without the mouse) |
| 18:10.00 | chealer | wolsni: nah, because I would get your IP and could of course launch a powerful counterstrike if anything bad would happen. |
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| 18:10.19 | zcat | ref: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#Mouse_Jail:_How_to_lock_your_mouse_in_the_monitor |
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| 18:11.22 | wolsni | chealer: so you don't actually need to interact with krfb before you can connect? |
| 18:11.49 | chealer | wolsni: I need to start it, click configure, and OK. |
| 18:12.04 | chealer | it's a kind of dummy interaction. |
| 18:12.29 | wolsni | that sounds odd |
| 18:12.40 | chealer | wolsni: indeed |
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| 18:16.17 | mpsan | Does anyone know how to add a root login to KDE login screen? |
| 18:16.42 | mpsan | It used to be there. |
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| 18:17.06 | chealer | mpsan: I don't, but now you're asking at the good place at least. it's a kdm thing. did you check its configuration? |
| 18:17.46 | mpsan | no, where is it? I will look...and MC is now running. |
| 18:17.54 | wolsni | mpsan: there is a setting in the Login Manager settings in kcontrol to choose which users to show/hide |
| 18:18.07 | chealer | mpsan: in /etc/ I guess |
| 18:18.31 | mpsan | I will look again. I know I did something like that before and have looked all over again! |
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| 18:20.30 | wolsni | you don't need to directly modify your kdmrc |
| 18:21.15 | wolsni | kcontrol->System Administration->Login Manager |
| 18:21.38 | wolsni | go to the Users tab |
| 18:22.18 | chealer | wolsni: and uncheck root? |
| 18:23.19 | wolsni | checks there mean "Hide this user" |
| 18:23.56 | chealer | wolsni: yeah...you think unchecking would do it? |
| 18:24.26 | chealer | wait... |
| 18:24.33 | wolsni | root and all groups to which root belongs |
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| 18:25.11 | chealer | mpsan: are you really asking just how to show root in the screen, or is your basic problem that root is unable to login? I thought that was what you asked yesterday. |
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| 18:27.44 | mpsan | Yes, when I used to run Woody KDE showed root and me the user. Now it shows the user and will NOT allow me to enter root and its password. |
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| 18:28.17 | Alethes | no root for you! |
| 18:28.25 | mpsan | ...and I thought I had it but can not find kcontrol. |
| 18:28.40 | chealer | mpsan: yeah, that's something different. I doubt that kcontrol will allow you to change that. |
| 18:29.04 | mpsan | I KNOW it used to be there! |
| 18:29.26 | chealer | mpsan: you could change that from kcontrol in woody? |
| 18:29.47 | wolsni | mpsan: now, THAT I think you need to edit kdmrc for |
| 18:30.09 | mpsan | I will look |
| 18:31.23 | chealer | anyway, if something could answer my actual question about running kdeinit_wrapper krfb, that would be nice. I never used kdeinit_wrapper before. |
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| 18:33.44 | mpsan | the greeter in kdmrc only shows me. |
| 18:34.04 | chealer | mpsan: start by allowing root logins. |
| 18:34.23 | wolsni | there's a setting called AllowRoot |
| 18:34.42 | wolsni | I'll let you work out what it does :) |
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| 18:44.07 | mpsan | Yup...see it...didn't work. I did an edit in the kdmrc in the kde3 dir...trying to also unhide root. :-) |
| 18:45.07 | wolsni | you did restart it, right? |
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| 18:47.05 | habeeb | For some weird reason, every time I reboot, my wallpaper resets. |
| 18:47.19 | mpsan | yes, doing another restart with the hidden users edited. |
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| 18:51.28 | yung_ | anybody has a sound problem with konqueror ? |
| 18:52.13 | yung_ | How can I see and listen a flash (google video) with konqueror...? |
| 18:53.20 | mpsan | wolsni...yes, I believe it is OK now. I did log in as root and I was asked to set up prefs again for the user. |
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| 18:55.48 | dauoalagio2 | hello, K3b isn't finding any of my cd drives. any ideas? |
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| 18:56.25 | Mirrakor | Is it possible, that only the applications, which are used in the current workspace are shown in the taskbar? |
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| 19:03.47 | dauoalagio2 | Mirrakor: yes |
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| 19:04.31 | Mirrakor | dauoalagio2: how? |
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| 19:05.45 | dauoalagio2 | Kcontrol/Desktop/Taskbar/ and uncheck "Show windows from all desktops" |
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| 19:13.29 | _kmh_ | cya |
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| 19:14.25 | dauoalagio2 | Mirrakor: look up |
| 19:14.38 | Mirrakor | dauoalagio2: thanks |
| 19:14.51 | dauoalagio2 | yep |
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| 19:21.06 | chtitux | hello |
| 19:21.06 | chtitux | I've a problem with anonsvn ... |
| 19:21.24 | chtitux | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.24 | chtitux | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
| 19:22.07 | thiago | chtitux: server is not working |
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| 19:23.50 | hanno | hi |
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| 19:23.59 | hanno | there's this nagging bug with konqueror and wordpress showing two scollbars |
| 19:24.02 | Mirrakor | dauoalagio2: sorry, can't find it exactly :/ |
| 19:24.04 | hanno | is this known and is this a konqueror issue? |
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| 19:27.09 | lxuser | selamünaleyküm |
| 19:28.01 | pinotree | lxuser: english please |
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| 19:29.25 | Mirrakor | dauoalagio2: found, it :) |
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| 19:41.18 | magicbronson_ | is it possible to remap Caps Lock to Control? |
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| 19:42.32 | logixoul | yes. kcontrol->regional->keyb layout->kxb options->ctrl key position->swap ctrl and caps lock |
| 19:42.55 | magicbronson_ | logixoul: thanks. you have to swap though, you can't have them both map to control? |
| 19:42.56 | logixoul | (kxb?! didn't that use to be kxkb?) |
| 19:43.15 | magicbronson_ | logixoul: it's xkb, no? |
| 19:43.19 | logixoul | magicbronson_: "make capslock an additional ctrl" |
| 19:43.29 | magicbronson_ | logixoul: thanks :) |
| 19:43.47 | logixoul | xkb right |
| 19:43.49 | logixoul | np |
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| 19:43.56 | logixoul | :) |
| 19:45.12 | magicbronson_ | logixoul: do you know offhand if there are any trackpad gestures built in for e.g. scrolling? |
| 19:45.37 | logixoul | nope, not familiar with the subject. |
| 19:45.45 | magicbronson_ | ok, thanks |
| 19:45.48 | logixoul | np |
| 19:45.48 | logixoul | night all |
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| 19:55.58 | stjepan | anybody here uses KMess? |
| 19:56.14 | habeeb | stjepan: me. |
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| 19:56.31 | habeeb | For some weird reason, every time I reboot, my wallpaper resets. Any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 19:56.57 | mrigns | !pastebin |
| 19:57.03 | stjepan | habeeb: is it possible to send & recieve offline messages with KMess? |
| 19:57.14 | mrigns | wrong channel sotrry |
| 19:57.17 | mrigns | <... |
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| 19:58.10 | habeeb | stjepan: You can't send messages while you are invisible, but when you login back you receive the ones you got while you were away. |
| 19:58.40 | stjepan | habeeb: no, I don't mean "away", I mean "offline" |
| 19:59.22 | habeeb | i don't mean away, too. I mean appear offline. but no, if you are offline, you can't _send_ messages. |
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| 20:00.17 | stjepan | habeeb: can you send messages to offline contacts and can you recieve messages which somebody sent to you when you were offline? |
| 20:00.21 | stjepan | gaim can't do that |
| 20:01.08 | thiago | almost no client can |
| 20:01.14 | thiago | it's a new feature in MSN (the protocol) |
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| 20:01.23 | thiago | now you can send messages to off-line contacts and the server will store them |
| 20:01.28 | habeeb | stjepan: you can do the latter, but no, you can't send messages to offline contacts. |
| 20:01.31 | thiago | just like ICQ has been able to for the past 10 years |
| 20:01.32 | Alethes | jabber does that too |
| 20:01.43 | habeeb | at least in my version. |
| 20:01.44 | wolsni | what? the client needs to support that? |
| 20:02.35 | wolsni | meh, let's just get everyone to go to jabber :P |
| 20:03.11 | thiago | wolsni: yes, the client needs to support the feature |
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| 20:04.26 | kirun | I only have five IM accounts, surely cross-network problems aren't that bad :P |
| 20:05.04 | mehdi | hello world |
| 20:05.13 | kirun | Shame that's more IM accounts than regular IM contacts :P |
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| 20:07.24 | kubuntian | hellp |
| 20:07.25 | MinceR | the protocol is broken if the client needs to support that |
| 20:07.41 | MinceR | but then again, m$n being broken isn't new |
| 20:07.45 | kubuntian | suppose i can login correctly with ssh using: ssh foo@myfoo.com |
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| 20:09.15 | kubuntian | then i should be able to mount the remote home folder using sshfs right? |
| 20:09.45 | pinotree | kubuntian: ##linux please |
| 20:09.55 | kubuntian | but when i call the following sshfs foo@myfoo.com:/home/foo /home/faa/remote |
| 20:10.17 | pinotree | kubuntian: sshfs has nothing to do with kde, so please ##linux |
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| 20:10.37 | kubuntian | oh sorry i thought i was in kubuntu :) |
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| 20:11.08 | Valheru | I'm trying to compile kdebase4 from SVN and am getting a strange error |
| 20:11.23 | Valheru | CMake Error: This project requires some variables to be set, |
| 20:11.23 | Valheru | and cmake can not find them. |
| 20:11.23 | Valheru | Please set the following variables: |
| 20:11.24 | Valheru | KMETADATA_LIBRARIES |
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| 20:11.36 | Valheru | As far as I can tell I have that :/ |
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| 20:13.50 | thiago | Valheru: have you installed soprano? |
| 20:14.09 | thiago | Valheru: re-read the KDE 4 build instructions. They have been updated. |
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| 20:20.02 | gemidjy1 | how do you handle the need of better web2.0 support in your everday Konqueror use? |
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| 20:21.49 | wolsni | but bug reports and a backup browser are pretty much all you can do about them |
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| 20:23.39 | nikolavp | can someone please tell me a nice window decoration and style :( |
| 20:23.46 | nikolavp | i just noticed that baghira makes my kde desktop go *really* slow |
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| 20:24.10 | wolsni | nikolavp: domino is similar |
| 20:24.21 | nikolavp | what u mean ? |
| 20:24.26 | nikolavp | makes it slow too ?:( |
| 20:24.43 | rstanca | i like crystal |
| 20:24.58 | nikolavp | i use crystal for my icons |
| 20:24.59 | wolsni | it looks (or, can look) OS X-ish |
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| 20:25.48 | wolsni | http://www.kde-look.org/ for as much KDE theming as you can handle :) |
| 20:26.07 | nikolavp | yeah but i couldnt find something that grabs my eye :) |
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| 20:26.32 | wolsni | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino?content=42804 there's domino |
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| 20:27.27 | wolsni | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Serenity?content=35954 that one's nice too if you like soft edges |
| 20:28.28 | nikolavp | oh thanks :D |
| 20:28.32 | tuxick | kpdf select tool allows selecting block of text, but then it shows the number of characters but won't allow copying the text, why? |
| 20:28.43 | tuxick | i'm sure i've seen it work before |
| 20:29.31 | wolsni | tuxick: I think pdfs can ask the viewer to refuse to copy |
| 20:29.54 | tuxick | hah, it was only when selecting just a paragraph |
| 20:30.02 | tuxick | when making the selection bigger i got it all |
| 20:30.07 | wolsni | odd |
| 20:30.12 | tuxick | quite |
| 20:30.26 | pinotree | tuxick: DRM |
| 20:30.53 | pinotree | there's the setting in the preference to skip it, fyi |
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| 20:31.49 | tuxick | pinotree: aha! that explains it :) |
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| 20:32.22 | tuxick | i didn't realise that would have effect here |
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| 20:35.19 | wolsni | nikolavp: here's what I'm using right now http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Thin+Keramik?content=10919 |
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| 20:53.20 | SimAtWork | when you change the association of a file |
| 20:53.32 | SimAtWork | andyou get this "updating system configuration" window |
| 20:53.40 | SimAtWork | what is it actually doin? |
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| 20:53.55 | SimAtWork | like, which files is it modifying? |
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| 20:54.45 | pinotree | why? |
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| 20:55.32 | SimAtWork | cause mine is looping |
| 20:55.39 | SimAtWork | updating.. 0, 10, ect to 90% |
| 20:55.41 | SimAtWork | then starts over again |
| 20:55.51 | wolsni | SimAtWork: you could use lsof to check |
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| 21:07.07 | sharms | How can I disable right clicking in kde |
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| 21:07.47 | Luck | bate papo |
| 21:07.48 | wolsni | sharms: get a one-button mouse :) |
| 21:08.07 | sharms | wolsni: thanks :) I was looking for more of a kde specific solution |
| 21:08.31 | KRF | hey, when i plug in my usb pen, a symbol on the desktop is created, ok. when i mount it by the popup which appears the symbol vanishes; it seems like kde recognizes that usb pen as a fixed hard disk after the mount |
| 21:08.37 | Luck | procuro uma gril |
| 21:08.52 | KRF | is that problem caused by kde? |
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| 21:09.29 | Schuenemann | how do I install qmake? |
| 21:09.37 | wolsni | sharms: I'm not really clear on what you want to do |
| 21:10.15 | sharms | just disable right click on menus etc |
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| 21:12.34 | wolsni | so you still want to be able to right click on icons and such, you just don't want right clicks to activate menu entries? |
| 21:12.43 | sharms | right click on nothing |
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| 21:12.50 | Fide | hi |
| 21:13.33 | Fide | I have a problem with the KDE Proxy |
| 21:13.36 | wolsni | sharms: I think that's an X11 thing |
| 21:14.12 | wolsni | ask in #xorg or your distro channel |
| 21:14.12 | Fide | I want to configure it to use my SOCKS tunnel |
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| 21:32.12 | UKESN|Javax | fuuuck off chelsea fc, you aint got no history! 5 european cups, 18 leagues, THAT WHAT I CALL HISTORY! |
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| 21:52.52 | XVampireX | Sho_: Any news on Domino? |
| 21:54.52 | Sho_ | XVampireX: Nope, I think Michael wanted to play with a Qt4 style for a while |
| 21:55.05 | XVampireX | Oxygen? |
| 21:55.10 | Sho_ | XVampireX: No, his own |
| 21:55.27 | XVampireX | Ah, porting Domino to Qt4? |
| 21:55.37 | Sho_ | XVampireX: No, something new |
| 21:56.06 | XVampireX | you got any screens? :) |
| 21:56.50 | Sho_ | XVampireX: No |
| 21:57.15 | XVampireX | oh |
| 21:57.24 | XVampireX | you know of any other new Qt4 styles? |
| 21:57.48 | Sho_ | XVampireX: iirc someone is working on a style called "Ion" |
| 21:58.05 | XVampireX | Hmm |
| 21:58.17 | XVampireX | And where is that? |
| 21:58.46 | Sho_ | dunno |
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| 22:00.07 | XVampireX | :P |
| 22:00.13 | XVampireX | What are you doing with Yakuake? |
| 22:00.16 | XVampireX | porting to Qt4? |
| 22:00.19 | pinotree | wow - new release coming shortly? |
| 22:00.23 | wolsni | hacking |
| 22:00.32 | wolsni | he like, just said it |
| 22:00.37 | Sho_ | XVampireX: No, the KDE4 version of the Konsole kpart isn't ready yet, so it makes little sense |
| 22:00.39 | Sho_ | pinotree: yup |
| 22:00.44 | pinotree | \o* |
| 22:00.48 | pinotree | \o/ |
| 22:01.29 | Sho_ | added lots of stuff recently ... new config dialog with a page to select/install/uninstall skins, a fullscreen mode, support for vertical and horizontal splits within sessions, movable tabs, various little new features, improvements and bugfixes - well, basically I rewrote it |
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| 22:44.38 | sidd_ | I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions? I think it is a kde related matter. |
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| 22:54.14 | sidd_ | I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions? I think it is a kde related matter. |
| 22:55.08 | josh_ | is there anywhere i can discuss hacking |
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| 22:58.18 | imagine | josh_: kde-devel |
| 22:58.23 | imagine | if you mean real hacking |
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| 22:58.39 | imagine | josh_: if you mean cracking, undernet has something for you |
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| 23:05.12 | SuN | Hi. Does anyone know if it's possible to disable KDEbluetooth's builtin bemused server? |
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| 23:23.28 | azzz | hello everybody |
| 23:23.40 | azzz | i ve a question about kmplayer |
| 23:24.00 | XVampireX | use smplayer, end of story. |
| 23:24.27 | azzz | is it possible to adjust the player volume independent from the other apps |
| 23:24.51 | azzz | does smplayer has bookmarks?? |
| 23:25.28 | azzz | XVampireX: does kmplayer have bookmarks? |
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| 23:26.40 | XVampireX | smplayer, it has something better than bookmarks. |
| 23:26.48 | XVampireX | it remembers the position you last had when you closed the app :) |
| 23:26.59 | azzz | :) |
| 23:26.59 | azzz | hehe |
| 23:27.20 | azzz | also kaffeine had something like that as far as i remember |
| 23:27.24 | XVampireX | and works with qt3, qt4, and kde3 |
| 23:27.32 | XVampireX | no kaffeine doesn't |
| 23:27.36 | wolsni | smplayer has a windows port, right? |
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| 23:27.49 | XVampireX | yeah |
| 23:28.05 | XVampireX | and got some nice custom icons |
| 23:28.12 | azzz | i tried that smplayer when it was 0.3 something |
| 23:28.13 | wolsni | meh |
| 23:28.14 | XVampireX | I'm waiting for a deb for 0.4 |
| 23:28.17 | azzz | and i hate that |
| 23:28.19 | wolsni | icons :P |
| 23:28.24 | XVampireX | even oxygen |
| 23:28.27 | XVampireX | which I'm using |
| 23:28.37 | azzz | coz the slider bar was in front of the window |
| 23:28.38 | azzz | :Çd |
| 23:28.41 | azzz | sorry |
| 23:28.42 | azzz | :d |
| 23:29.47 | azzz | secondly im using kmplayer for the video streams |
| 23:29.55 | azzz | for the tv channels ie |
| 23:30.08 | azzz | so bookmarks are important for me |
| 23:30.30 | azzz | but that volume control issue is annoying |
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| 23:37.19 | simmerz | ive enabled all the ACPI options and setuid the helper but still nothing |
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| 23:39.11 | Inssomniak | hey all, in the kicker taskbar is there a way to hide the desktops panel there? |
| 23:40.24 | Inssomniak | I guess its the "pager" |
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| 23:50.27 | Daemoen | hey guys... i have a question.. |
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| 23:52.56 | Daemoen | why does the right click on panel to bring up the panel configurator not show the controls for *all* of the panels that a user configures? |
| 23:53.08 | Daemoen | the only way to get to all of the panels configuration is through control center explicitly |
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