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| 00:01.12 | sbx | what wm does kde use? |
| 00:01.28 | pinotree | kwin |
| 00:02.23 | Ace2016 | i wonder |
| 00:02.41 | Ace2016 | why did kde turn konqueror into the web browser and make a new file manager? |
| 00:02.51 | Renze | they didn't |
| 00:02.59 | Renze | konqueror in kde4 is still a file manager |
| 00:03.02 | Ace2016 | why not turn konqueror into the default file manager |
| 00:03.30 | Ace2016 | and then a web browser called dolphin |
| 00:03.35 | Jucato | O.o |
| 00:03.39 | Ace2016 | why did dolphin becaome the file manager |
| 00:03.40 | Ken69267 | me loves dolphin as a filemanger |
| 00:03.44 | Ace2016 | i liked konqueror as the name |
| 00:03.55 | Renze | some people will never get it, eh Jucato? |
| 00:03.55 | Jucato | because Dolphin isn't a web browser |
| 00:04.02 | Jucato | Renze: unfortunately :/ |
| 00:04.04 | icwiener_ | Ace2016: Anyone wanted to have a neew project for testing out new design and usability concepts. And it went so well, that it is dolphin now. |
| 00:04.08 | Ken69267 | well...if he downloaded the internet to his hardrive...technically... |
| 00:04.09 | icwiener_ | *Someone |
| 00:04.52 | Ace2016 | still i like konqueror as the file manager's name |
| 00:04.59 | icwiener_ | Names are ... |
| 00:05.02 | Ace2016 | dolphin is a crap name |
| 00:05.07 | Jucato | Ace2016: Dolphin didn't start as an official KDE project. it was, as icwiener_ mentioned, just a file manager that someone wanted to make. Eventually the KDE devs took notice and decided to make it the default |
| 00:05.24 | Ace2016 | :( |
| 00:05.30 | Ace2016 | why did they have to do that? |
| 00:05.31 | Ken69267 | nothing is stopping you from making konq the default |
| 00:05.35 | Jucato | preferences are subjective |
| 00:05.50 | icwiener_ | omg, how could they!!!oneoneeleven... |
| 00:05.57 | icwiener_ | ;) |
| 00:05.58 | Ace2016 | will there be an option in kcontrol to set konqueror as the default? |
| 00:06.03 | icwiener_ | Yes |
| 00:06.13 | Jucato | yes yes yes |
| 00:06.22 | Ace2016 | then its ok, as long as i can have konq as my file manager |
| 00:06.34 | icwiener_ | #kde needs a FAQ ;) |
| 00:06.48 | Ace2016 | yea thats true |
| 00:07.07 | icwiener_ | Ace2016: If you now think some act strange on some questions, it is because they came up "a few" times before. :) |
| 00:07.28 | Jucato | icwiener_: people need to do some reading/research first before jumping to conclusions too :) |
| 00:07.49 | icwiener_ | Jucato: Sure. :) |
| 00:08.37 | Ken69267 | I say we push buttons until something implodes |
| 00:08.49 | Jucato | O.o |
| 00:09.08 | Renze | get a room, you two |
| 00:09.33 | icwiener_ | Renze: jealous? |
| 00:09.35 | Renze | nope |
| 00:09.41 | Jucato | lol |
| 00:10.02 | Ace2016 | lol |
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| 00:20.30 | Ace2016 | Renze: what time is it where you are? |
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| 00:21.11 | Renze | Wed Apr 11 12:20:36 NZST 2007 |
| 00:21.13 | icwiener_ | It's 12:21 in NZ. |
| 00:21.24 | Renze | don't interrupt my sandwich making :P |
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| 01:08.39 | d00d | can someone help me comping ktorrent |
| 01:09.11 | icwiener | comping? |
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| 01:09.59 | d00d | compiling i mean sorry typo |
| 01:12.48 | icwiener | d00d: ./configure && make && make install |
| 01:13.07 | d00d | Im messing smtg tho |
| 01:13.19 | d00d | I think its gmp-dev |
| 01:13.38 | d00d | icwiener, log http://pastebin.ca/433850 |
| 01:14.41 | icwiener | d00d: libgmp3-dev or sth like that |
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| 01:15.37 | d00d | installed now ima try again |
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| 01:17.07 | d00d | err |
| 01:17.21 | d00d | more errors icwiener |
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| 01:17.38 | d00d | http://pastebin.ca/433856 < |
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| 01:19.20 | icwiener | d00d: You have to run "make install" as root, forgot to mention. |
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| 01:25.11 | d00d | still compiling |
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| 01:26.14 | icwiener | good sign :) |
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| 01:29.22 | d00d | errors :S |
| 01:29.55 | icwiener | good sign either |
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| 01:30.06 | icwiener | errors give us sth to think about. ;) |
| 01:30.59 | d00d | wahts the kde prog to get the copy and paste logs |
| 01:31.04 | d00d | i forget |
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| 01:31.50 | icwiener | What do you mean? |
| 01:31.50 | d00d | The Program |
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| 01:31.56 | d00d | THe Logger That logs the copy and pastes |
| 01:32.04 | Renze | klipper ? |
| 01:32.12 | d00d | ye |
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| 01:32.38 | Renze | never heard it referred to as a "copy and paste logger" before ;) |
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| 01:34.42 | d00d | here icwiener http://pastebin.ca/433868 |
| 01:34.51 | d00d | the errors im geting |
| 01:35.01 | d00d | weird |
| 01:35.54 | icwiener | Oh, that's really weird. |
| 01:36.24 | icwiener | An error in absence of an error. ;) |
| 01:36.44 | icwiener | I do not see an error there. |
| 01:36.49 | lilltiger | pretty nasty error, hard to debug :) |
| 01:37.37 | d00d | i got right from ktorrent site |
| 01:38.01 | d00d | and i just opend it |
| 01:38.05 | d00d | its 213 weird |
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| 01:39.06 | icwiener | d00d: For me the paste you gave looks like the "make" command ran properly. |
| 01:39.13 | icwiener | Nor errors, no problems. |
| 01:39.23 | d00d | yeah i just opened it |
| 01:39.32 | d00d | 213 thanks icwiener and others |
| 01:39.43 | icwiener | Ah, ok. No problem. |
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| 01:42.10 | lilltiger | d00d: you should also try azuerus.. i get crappy speeds using ktorrent :( |
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| 01:42.59 | Ken69267 | rtorrent |
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| 01:43.13 | smileaf | lilltiger: you sure your forwarding ports and have ktorrent setup correctly? |
| 01:43.57 | mini33 | does putting a k infront of it really make it better?:) |
| 01:44.15 | Ken69267 | it makes it prettier |
| 01:44.15 | Ken69267 | =p |
| 01:44.40 | mini33 | azuerus is slow as molasses if you get any solid use out of it - |
| 01:44.46 | smileaf | mini33: of course =p |
| 01:45.13 | Ken69267 | :o |
| 01:45.16 | kmini33 | CHeeer |
| 01:45.19 | ksmileaf | see! |
| 01:45.29 | kmini33 | kk |
| 01:45.30 | Ken69267 | it's like kmagic or something |
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| 01:46.29 | d00d | Anyone know a good torrent site off hand i wanna test stmg |
| 01:47.01 | Ken69267 | tpb... ih... |
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| 01:47.34 | ozzloy | i have some starter code for a qt app on ubuntu, and i'm getting this error, how do i fix it? "main.cpp:1:24: error: QApplication: No such file or directory" |
| 01:47.37 | smileak | d00d: what are you looking for? |
| 01:47.55 | Renze | smileak: you have a leak? |
| 01:48.18 | smileak | ozzloy: make sure your includes point to the right dir, g++ -I/path/to/qt |
| 01:48.36 | smileak | Renze: yes. |
| 01:48.40 | kmini33 | so my sill k3b made a dvd coaster today :( ... it was the 165 meg .iso for gparted + klonezilla .... |
| 01:48.48 | kmini33 | silly* |
| 01:48.52 | ozzloy | smileak: any idea how i find out what /path/to/qt is? |
| 01:49.15 | d00d | smileak, im looking for smtg that looks raito |
| 01:49.15 | d00d | logs* |
| 01:49.30 | smileak | d00d: first.. smtg? next... raito? |
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| 01:49.40 | Ken69267 | I think it means something |
| 01:49.50 | d00d | yeh it does |
| 01:50.01 | d00d | short talk |
| 01:50.15 | d00d | :p |
| 01:50.19 | Renze | we don't understand txtspk here |
| 01:50.20 | smileak | =) |
| 01:50.38 | smileak | ozzloy: no clue to be honest. what distro do you use? |
| 01:50.38 | icwiener | wtf is inet en? |
| 01:50.42 | d00d | well i'm looking for a torrentsite that logs Raitos of downloads and uploads |
| 01:50.43 | smileak | Oh duh.. Ubuntu .. lol |
| 01:50.45 | ozzloy | smileak: ubuntu |
| 01:50.54 | ozzloy | yeah, google's no help either |
| 01:50.54 | Renze | d00d: "ratios" ? |
| 01:50.59 | ozzloy | nor is #ubuntu |
| 01:51.16 | d00d | share ratio |
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| 01:51.45 | Renze | d00d: share ratio is per user, not per torrent |
| 01:52.00 | d00d | yeah i kno |
| 01:52.07 | Renze | so how would that get logged? |
| 01:52.13 | Ken69267 | demonoid logs ppls u/d |
| 01:52.14 | smileak | ozzloy: Qt4? |
| 01:52.20 | ozzloy | smileak: indeed |
| 01:52.32 | smileak | ozzloy: qtconfig, Library Paths might help a bit. |
| 01:52.34 | d00d | I can't find the site i used for torrents blah |
| 01:52.53 | d00d | They had priv trackers, they logged it via the tracker |
| 01:53.04 | smileak | d00d: normally when I'm looking for something, I google: "whatI'mLookingFor torrent" |
| 01:53.18 | kmini33 | smileak - i'm on sabayon - 2.6.21-rc5 + beryl 0.21 + kde 3.5.6 |
| 01:53.21 | Shirakawasuna | so, kmplayer is run with "kmplayer -caption "%c" %i %m " in the kmenu - how would I figure out what %i means? |
| 01:53.29 | kmini33 | torrentjunkie.org |
| 01:53.31 | smileak | kmini33: I'm sorry. |
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| 01:53.37 | Shirakawasuna | or any of those options... |
| 01:53.49 | Shirakawasuna | hmm, maybe they're -caption options |
| 01:53.56 | kmini33 | er, i meant btjunkie.org |
| 01:54.07 | smileak | Shirakawasuna: Shift+F1 and click on the line |
| 01:55.02 | ozzloy | well i gtg, thanks smileak. no luck just yet, but more pressing matters... |
| 01:55.26 | smileak | ozzloy: you might also wanna use your package manager and see if you can list the installed files. |
| 01:55.29 | Shirakawasuna | smileak: in kmplayer? |
| 01:55.39 | smileak | Shirakawasuna: in kmenuedit. |
| 01:55.43 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: no, in kmenuedit |
| 01:55.44 | smileak | or the open with dialog |
| 01:55.54 | Shirakawasuna | ooh, cool |
| 01:55.55 | Shirakawasuna | thanks |
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| 01:57.34 | lilltiger | smileak: yhee im sure ;) |
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| 01:59.09 | lilltiger | but still ktorrent only gives me 50k-150k/sec while azureuz max out my 10mbit line if the seeders is fast enought |
| 01:59.37 | Shirakawasuna | I've noticed a slight difference, too...probably due to different configurations, though |
| 01:59.39 | Simeon_H | I love azureas's swarm thingy |
| 01:59.47 | Simeon_H | implement it into ktorrent |
| 02:00.00 | Shirakawasuna | that swarm thing is pretty cool...shame azureus is all huge and java-ie |
| 02:00.04 | Renze | if only azureus wasn't written in java and didn't consume vast amounts of RAM and swap |
| 02:00.13 | lilltiger | yhee |
| 02:00.20 | Shirakawasuna | yep |
| 02:00.29 | Shirakawasuna | it still manages to work better most of the time, sadly >_< |
| 02:00.55 | Renze | I could never get azureus to work right, but ktorrent just worked |
| 02:01.30 | Simeon_H | yeah |
| 02:01.38 | lilltiger | mmm.. mostly i use linuxdc++ as ktorrent is slow and az consumes all resources |
| 02:01.46 | Simeon_H | someone go put that idea foward in #kde-devel |
| 02:01.51 | Simeon_H | (swarm in ktorrent) |
| 02:02.03 | Renze | ktorrent is a third party app... tell the authors |
| 02:02.10 | smileak | Simeon_H: you could always report a wish.. |
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| 02:02.18 | Shirakawasuna | hmm |
| 02:02.28 | Simeon_H | hrm |
| 02:02.30 | Shirakawasuna | is VmSize the memory footprint of an app in ksysguard? |
| 02:02.30 | smileak | I think it uses bugs.kde.org doesn't it? |
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| 02:02.35 | Shirakawasuna | I think so |
| 02:02.38 | Simeon_H | I'm gonna be the KDE "idea's guy" |
| 02:02.39 | smileak | Shirakawasuna: yes |
| 02:02.51 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: including all shared libraries |
| 02:02.57 | Shirakawasuna | well, without a torrent opened, azureus is smaller than ktorrent |
| 02:03.00 | Shirakawasuna | ah, right |
| 02:03.01 | Renze | regardless of whatever else is using them |
| 02:03.05 | Vinegaroon | Why do lspci, lsusb and lshw still not work after emerging pciutils usbutils and lshw? |
| 02:03.29 | Shirakawasuna | Renze: is VmRss just its own footprint, or something else? |
| 02:03.33 | Renze | Vinegaroon: ask in #sabayon |
| 02:03.38 | smileak | Vinegaroon: not a KDE question, ask in your distro channel |
| 02:03.46 | Vinegaroon | oh sorry wrong channel |
| 02:03.47 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: it is the footprint of the app and all libs it uses |
| 02:04.09 | Shirakawasuna | well, I was asking about VmSize first, then VmRss...and they have different values |
| 02:04.09 | Simeon_H | ok, I need 10,000 KDE flyers and a light aircraft + pilot |
| 02:04.30 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: I think VmRss is the part that is resident in memory |
| 02:05.09 | Shirakawasuna | ah |
| 02:05.16 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: long story short: those numbers are pretty damn close to useless for measuring memory usage |
| 02:05.49 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: do a free before running ktorrent, then a free after |
| 02:06.07 | Shirakawasuna | hehe, that's really the best way? Silly ksysguard |
| 02:06.13 | Shirakawasuna | /whatever backends it uses |
| 02:06.23 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: it does the best it can |
| 02:06.28 | Simeon_H | yeah ksysguard needs some work |
| 02:06.31 | Simeon_H | -_- |
| 02:06.35 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: measuring memory usage in any modern OS is very very tricky |
| 02:06.54 | Simeon_H | like an "Administrator mode" button |
| 02:07.09 | Simeon_H | because I always forget to run it as root and have to restart it |
| 02:07.39 | Simeon_H | (when I need to kill an app run as root) |
| 02:08.12 | Renze | I still do all of that stuff in konsole |
| 02:08.20 | Renze | ich bin ein geek |
| 02:08.22 | Shirakawasuna | yeah, azureus = 35 meg, ktorrent's ~6 |
| 02:08.30 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: there you go |
| 02:09.07 | Shirakawasuna | ah, nice happy arch |
| 02:09.18 | Shirakawasuna | I rule the universe with network profiles! |
| 02:12.37 | lilltiger | "In an distant galaxy, far far way... Arrghh what happened to the network, someone screwed up my profile badly!" |
| 02:13.09 | Renze | get a room, you two ;) |
| 02:13.16 | Simeon_H | O_O |
| 02:13.35 | Simeon_H | for my reputations sake, lilltiger better be a girl |
| 02:13.53 | lilltiger | Renze: No, you cant film, It's private! |
| 02:14.05 | Renze | damn |
| 02:14.20 | Simeon_H | mmm |
| 02:14.30 | jordo23 | Anyone have an idea why MPLAYER works fine under Firefox under KDE and not under Konqueror? |
| 02:14.37 | Simeon_H | tastes like celluloid |
| 02:15.09 | Renze | jordo23: use kmplayer's kpart, or kaffeine's (if they fixed the crash bug) |
| 02:15.55 | jordo23 | Renze: It's to play MLB.tv's streams...works fine under Firefox, but not Konq. I have a bunch of plugins installed, could Konq be calling the wrong one? |
| 02:16.13 | Renze | jordo23: konq uses kparts for video, not plugins |
| 02:16.44 | jordo23 | Renze: Do I have to install any special packages? |
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| 02:16.55 | Renze | jordo23: kmplayer, or kaffeine |
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| 02:17.28 | Jucato | jordo23: kmplayer-konq-plugins |
| 02:17.44 | Renze | oh yeah, packages vary by distro |
| 02:17.55 | Renze | which you neglected to mention |
| 02:18.01 | jordo23 | Renze Jucato: All three are installed and newest versions... |
| 02:18.08 | jordo23 | Still doesn't come up..... |
| 02:18.16 | Renze | jordo23: paste a URL to a video so we can test it |
| 02:18.32 | jordo23 | Renze: You have to subscribe.... :) |
| 02:18.45 | Renze | then find a non-subscription site that has the same problem |
| 02:18.47 | Jucato | jordo23: you have mplayer installed? make sure that the embedded kmplayer viewer is using "Play with -> mplayer" and not xine |
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| 02:19.26 | jordo23 | Jucato: Where to you configure that outside the window....can't get to the menu in the embedded viewer |
| 02:19.39 | Renze | the "v" button in the bottom bar |
| 02:19.41 | Jucato | right-click on the viewer |
| 02:19.45 | Renze | in the player frame |
| 02:20.34 | Renze | more accurately, the ▼ button |
| 02:20.44 | Simeon_H | is it possible to make dolphin my default file manager? |
| 02:21.12 | Renze | Simeon_H: yes, there are instructions somewhere... |
| 02:21.45 | jordo23 | Jucato: Okay....got it working.....but I see no embedded play controls etc... |
| 02:21.59 | Renze | jordo23: hover your mouse at the bottom of the frame |
| 02:22.12 | Jucato | Simeon_H: File Associations -> inode/directory |
| 02:23.00 | jordo23 | Renze: I think they are there, but they are all blacked out... |
| 02:23.17 | Renze | jordo23: controls should pop up when you move your mouse to the bottom of the frame |
| 02:23.53 | Simeon_H | are there KDE cloaks? |
| 02:24.09 | jordo23 | Renze: they do when I go full screen, but not in the embedded viewer....wierd |
| 02:24.10 | Renze | for KDE devs, yes ;) |
| 02:24.19 | Renze | jordo23: weird... they do here |
| 02:24.27 | Simeon_H | umm... damn it |
| 02:24.34 | Simeon_H | define devs |
| 02:24.48 | Renze | Simeon_H: developers working on KDE in some way |
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| 02:25.01 | Renze | Simeon_H: submitting bug reports doesn't count :P |
| 02:25.09 | Simeon_H | what about designing apps? |
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| 02:25.19 | Renze | define "designing" |
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| 02:25.28 | lontra | what's the difference between kplayer and kmplayer? |
| 02:25.37 | xt{c} | hrm. I was just gonna ask if submitting a kde bug report was enough to get me a kde cloak. :( |
| 02:25.40 | Simeon_H | making mock up images and technical documents |
| 02:25.49 | Renze | lontra: two different apps by two different groups of developers |
| 02:25.57 | Renze | Simeon_H: nope :P |
| 02:26.03 | lontra | which is more complete? |
| 02:26.13 | Renze | Simeon_H: if you contribute to KDE documentation, yes |
| 02:26.20 | Simeon_H | hmm |
| 02:26.25 | Renze | lontra: kmplayer, I think... but that's just me |
| 02:26.28 | Simeon_H | I suppose I could do some of that |
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| 02:26.56 | cheeseboy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.11 | Simeon_H | Kweather is good for weather |
| 02:27.26 | Simeon_H | gkrellm is ok I suppose |
| 02:27.33 | Simeon_H | unless you are a qt zealot |
| 02:27.33 | cheeseboy | how do i start kweather? |
| 02:27.46 | Simeon_H | if you have it installed |
| 02:27.50 | Simeon_H | ALT+F2 |
| 02:27.52 | Simeon_H | wait no |
| 02:28.07 | Simeon_H | you gotta do it through the applet menu |
| 02:28.21 | Simeon_H | right click on the panel |
| 02:28.31 | Simeon_H | choose panel menu -> add applet to panel |
| 02:28.57 | Simeon_H | and choose kweather |
| 02:29.34 | cheeseboy | its not option |
| 02:29.50 | Simeon_H | what kweather or add applet to panel? |
| 02:29.56 | cheeseboy | i installed it |
| 02:30.14 | cheeseboy | kweather its not option in add to panel |
| 02:30.34 | Renze | type "weather" into the search box |
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| 02:30.57 | Simeon_H | it might be Weather Report |
| 02:32.00 | cheeseboy | i did |
| 02:33.11 | cheeseboy | found it |
| 02:33.34 | XTrollX | Found what? |
| 02:33.41 | cheeseboy | kweather |
| 02:33.46 | XTrollX | eh? |
| 02:33.51 | cheeseboy | it was there wen i tried again |
| 02:34.05 | cheeseboy | no weather though |
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| 02:35.14 | Simeon_H | you have to pick your station and everything |
| 02:35.26 | cheeseboy | black themere / system monitor anyone? |
| 02:35.38 | Simeon_H | use Ksim |
| 02:35.41 | Simeon_H | or Gkrellm |
| 02:35.47 | Renze | cheeseboy: kde-look.org and kde-apps.org |
| 02:35.49 | Simeon_H | whichever one floats your boat |
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| 02:37.40 | jordo23 | Renze: I think the buttons on the bottom of the embedded viewer are the wrong color.....I can see them, but they are black....wierd |
| 02:37.52 | Renze | jordo23: very weird |
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| 02:51.43 | aubade | Is there any way to hide the grip bars on toolbars? |
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| 02:54.02 | icwiener | aubade: If your Style supports that, in kcontrol |
| 02:54.40 | aubade | icwiener: Didn't think that the it could be per-style, I'll have a look into. Thanks. |
| 02:54.43 | icwiener | aubade: The Configure... Button next to the style drop down box. |
| 02:55.04 | icwiener | aubade: Oh, wait... |
| 02:55.14 | aubade | hmm? |
| 02:55.16 | icwiener | aubade: I meant the separators... |
| 02:55.22 | icwiener | mixed that |
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| 02:59.53 | Linracoon | now when i click to close the session, in the Reboot button is used to show some entries, now it only haves the Reboot button, any help? |
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| 04:11.04 | zen | I just installed the Qt3 and Qt4 libraries (I was going to use Qt4, but my book is Qt3), and when using Qt3, I'm getting 700+ errors, all in library files... |
| 04:11.33 | zen | So clearly something went wrong. I'm on ubuntu, and I had just "aptitude install"ed them...any idea/advice? |
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| 04:12.58 | bsdfox | I doubt ubuntu supports having both installed |
| 04:13.46 | Lanken | bsdfox: are you sure about that? qt4 isn't backwards compatible or anything... |
| 04:13.46 | Simeon_H | bsdfox |
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| 04:13.54 | Simeon_H | that was a bit of an oxymoron |
| 04:13.59 | Simeon_H | * bsdfox loves gentoo |
| 04:14.02 | Simeon_H | :/ |
| 04:14.18 | bsdfox | Lanken: not at all |
| 04:14.36 | bsdfox | Simeon_H: gentoo has slots for different versions of certain packages |
| 04:14.38 | Lanken | bsdfox: so wouldn't any qt3 apps be totally farked if you had qt4 and not qt3? |
| 04:15.05 | bsdfox | Lanken: I would think so, yes |
| 04:15.15 | bsdfox | I didn't know it wasn't backwards compatible |
| 04:15.29 | zen | bsdfox, I've checked the include paths, there's a qt3 and a qt4 folder, and the headers I'm calling do specify and exist in the Qt3 folder. |
| 04:15.31 | Lanken | Simeon_H: if I were a bsd fan, my favorite linux distro would probably be gentoo, what with portage based on ports. |
| 04:15.45 | Simeon_H | yeah ok |
| 04:16.05 | bsdfox | I run freebsd on all my servers and gentoo on my desktop |
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| 04:16.21 | Lanken | I'm kind of looking forward to trying Pardus, since it favors kde. |
| 04:16.23 | bsdfox | it's been working well for me since.. like 2003? |
| 04:16.42 | bsdfox | whenever gentoo came out |
| 04:16.56 | Lanken | I like that gentoo isn't versioned. That's very sexy. |
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| 04:18.59 | Lanken | heh, now I'm sort of expecting someone knowledgable to pop up and tell me that I'm wrong about qt3 and qt4... |
| 04:19.02 | NefariousPrior | Does KDE have a task manager? |
| 04:19.09 | Lanken | ksysguard |
| 04:19.30 | Lanken | NefariousPrior: also, I recommend htop for CLI |
| 04:19.43 | zen | ksysguard is a funny name, I think....seems more like an AV or FW name than a task manager. |
| 04:19.47 | Lanken | it's a very friendly cli app |
| 04:20.01 | zen | It should be kphb for the task manager. :P |
| 04:20.35 | Lanken | zen: yeah, it kind of does. The "guard" part is really the system monitoring tools, including the kicker applet. |
| 04:20.41 | Lanken | both of which are excellent |
| 04:21.21 | Lanken | erm..."which is excellent" |
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| 04:22.45 | zen | Yep. |
| 04:23.30 | zen | So. Anyone up to giving me the pearl of wisdom that will magically make Qt headers/libs/etc work for me? |
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| 05:10.18 | SaintRyoda | Anyone know where I can find out what Media Players are supported by Konversation's /media command? |
| 05:10.35 | Renze | by reading the script? |
| 05:10.42 | SaintRyoda | Ooh, good idea! |
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| 05:15.56 | Pupeno | Hello. |
| 05:16.10 | Pupeno | Is there some way in which Konqueror can create hard-links? |
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| 05:16.36 | Renze | not that I know of |
| 05:16.55 | Jucato | nope. it only does symlinks or .desktop files |
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| 05:17.17 | Renze | hardlinks don't work across partitions, so it would take extra sanity checking |
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| 05:22.39 | Ademan | hey i have sort of an emergency |
| 05:22.40 | Lanken | I like those long extensions. ".desktop" is sexy. ".gnumeric" is good too. |
| 05:22.57 | Ademan | i need to restart my window manager, without losing ANY session data |
| 05:23.04 | Lanken | ademan |
| 05:23.06 | Lanken | no problem |
| 05:23.11 | Lanken | ~restartkwin |
| 05:23.13 | apt | To restart kwin, execute "kwin --replace" in a konsole. |
| 05:23.13 | Ademan | i have no keyboard input in my graphical shell though |
| 05:23.16 | Lanken | awww. |
| 05:23.37 | Ademan | and kwin and kompmgr both complain about there being no X server when i'm in a tty |
| 05:24.15 | Renze | DISPLAY=":0" kwin --replace |
| 05:24.18 | Renze | from a tty |
| 05:24.35 | Ademan | `kompmgr -d :0` sort of worked, i guess, it started up, complained about a lack of configuration files, and didn't return |
| 05:24.40 | Ademan | ah, alright i'll try it |
| 05:24.45 | Ademan | thanks |
| 05:24.59 | Lanken | Renze: you must have wandered off or something. |
| 05:25.05 | Lanken | either that or your latency is really high today |
| 05:25.07 | Renze | uh? |
| 05:25.19 | Lanken | usually you're faster :) |
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| 05:25.33 | Lanken | get a buckling-spring keyboard. |
| 05:25.37 | Lanken | less exertion |
| 05:25.41 | Lanken | also, type dvorak =D |
| 05:25.41 | Renze | that won't give me the energy I lack |
| 05:25.48 | SaintRyoda | reply from Renze: 2 seconds. |
| 05:27.22 | Renze | a madhouse |
| 05:27.29 | SaintRyoda | That's what I was thinking. |
| 05:27.41 | SaintRyoda | It's gonna be nuts in here. |
| 05:27.46 | Renze | hopefully I will have energy (and tolerance) at that stage |
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| 05:28.20 | SaintRyoda | We'll just get you a couple redbulls, a hammer, and a few spare monitors. |
| 05:29.10 | Ademan | Renze: thanks a ton, it worked |
| 05:29.16 | Renze | Ademan: no problem |
| 05:29.26 | Ademan | but now that i got my window manager back, i've got yet another problem... |
| 05:29.30 | Lanken | you're so optimistic. is it normal for OSS projects to release at the original tentative target date? |
| 05:29.40 | Renze | Lanken: nope |
| 05:29.41 | Ademan | apparently my trash information didn't write correctly |
| 05:29.41 | AngryElf | does amarok have integrated cd burning? |
| 05:29.47 | Ademan | (i ran out of disk space) |
| 05:30.00 | Renze | Ademan: go to .local/share/Trash/ and clean it out manually |
| 05:30.01 | Lanken | yeah, so I imagine october, november and december will be about like now. |
| 05:30.03 | Ademan | so as a result, i can't empty my trash bin |
| 05:30.14 | Renze | AngryElf: not integrated, but it can interface with k3b |
| 05:30.15 | SaintRyoda | Lanken: Likely not, but that's the *projected* time of release. |
| 05:30.24 | Ademan | Renze: that's what i was gonna say, mv -r .local/share/Trash /dev/null/ right? |
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| 05:30.36 | Ademan | but what about the trash info? wouldn't i need to regenerate it somehow? |
| 05:30.42 | Renze | Ademan: no, check the contents, there are subdirectories in there |
| 05:30.45 | Lanken | SaintRyoda: yeah, now I'm thinking ... the important thing to consider here is "when will people start using the release candidate" |
| 05:30.53 | Ademan | Trash/files rather, yeah |
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| 05:31.06 | Renze | Ademan: the info is stored in the other directory |
| 05:31.26 | Renze | installed in parallel with kde3 |
| 05:31.30 | SaintRyoda | Lanken: You make a good point. |
| 05:31.41 | Ademan | but i still lack the information files, which i would expect i need to generate somehow, right? |
| 05:31.47 | SaintRyoda | I'll wait until it's out on portage |
| 05:31.52 | Ademan | or do they get generated only when you trash something? |
| 05:31.56 | Renze | Ademan: if the trash is empty, the info will be empty too |
| 05:32.01 | Ademan | ah, alright thanks |
| 05:32.09 | Lanken | SaintRyoda: what comes after ~ in +,~ |
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| 05:32.23 | Lanken | would the next thing be ! |
| 05:32.26 | Lanken | ? |
| 05:32.34 | SaintRyoda | No. - |
| 05:32.41 | MilhousePunkRock | Good [enter time of the day here] everyone! |
| 05:32.54 | Renze | "good" is subjective |
| 05:33.04 | SaintRyoda | Hear hear |
| 05:33.18 | SaintRyoda | ... or something like that. |
| 05:33.20 | Lanken | I should leave. I have work to do. |
| 05:33.36 | MilhousePunkRock | I am wishing everyone a "good whatever" at least. I really don't have an influence if it really is good, Renze |
| 05:35.01 | AngryElf | k3b says I need to have the MAD library installed buy libmad0 (ubuntu) is installed...what else do I need? |
| 05:36.06 | MilhousePunkRock | I am experiencing a weird problem: With my primary user I can't start a window manager other than KWin. I created a test user and there I can launch both beryl and xfwm |
| 05:36.09 | Jucato | AngryElf: #kubuntu (and what exactly are you trying to do?) |
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| 05:36.27 | AngryElf | ...run k3b, burn some mp3s? |
| 05:36.29 | MilhousePunkRock | Can someone point me into the direction I need to look to solve this? |
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| 05:36.59 | Jucato | AngryElf: if you just want to burn mp3's as mp3's, you don't need MAD or LAME |
| 05:37.27 | Lanken | woo, work done. |
| 05:37.44 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: Princeton students need to work? |
| 05:38.04 | Lanken | MilhousePunkRock: most of the time not really. But I thesis is due in a week and a half. |
| 05:38.13 | Lanken | so if I want to graduate I have to work. |
| 05:38.23 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: What do you study? |
| 05:38.23 | Renze | Lanken: bah, just do it the night before like everybody else ;) |
| 05:38.28 | Lanken | physics |
| 05:38.52 | Lanken | MilhousePunkRock: I'm not an asskicker though |
| 05:39.15 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: Ouch... I was tortured with that during my undergraduate (=pre prediploma) time, studying biology myself... |
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| 05:39.42 | Lanken | actually, I kind of think physics was a good choice for me, because it isn't required that you do a bunch of busywork. and if you do a semi-decent job, you pass, just because schlubs can't do any job at all. |
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| 05:40.21 | MilhousePunkRock | Jucato: Any idea where to look at to solve my problem? |
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| 05:40.34 | Lanken | since physics isn't defensive about its status as a field, it doesn't impose restrictions on you or force you to prove very well to the world that you're doing anything. |
| 05:40.44 | Lanken | (unless you're a professor. Then you better be doing something) |
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| 05:41.17 | Lanken | anyway, I was going to ask how to give amarok commands from the cli. global hotkeys aren't working for me because of my funky dual-head setup. |
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| 05:41.25 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: So you are like that guy from Numb3rs, huh? (the one that was in Ally McBeal too) ;-) |
| 05:41.26 | Jucato | no idea |
| 05:41.38 | Lanken | but it's well-documented in amarok --help |
| 05:41.50 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: Ask in #amarok they know everything |
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| 05:42.24 | MilhousePunkRock | Jucato: Ever heard of someone else having that problem? |
| 05:42.30 | Lanken | MilhousePunkRock: you can't really trust what you see on tv, but yeah, sometimes we're a little like that guy. |
| 05:42.55 | AngryElf | Renze, so how does amarok interface with k3b? |
| 05:43.11 | Renze | AngryElf: via dcop, usually |
| 05:43.13 | Jucato | MilhousePunkRock: nope |
| 05:43.46 | Lanken | I've been thinking of converting all my mp3, m4a and wma files to vorbis. But I haven't done it because of the whole "converting from a lossy format to a lossy format" problem. |
| 05:43.53 | Lanken | is this a real issue? |
| 05:43.59 | Renze | Lanken: don't bother... keep them as they are |
| 05:44.04 | Renze | it is a real issue |
| 05:44.06 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: But I can trust what I saw myself, when the physicians tortured us... They really are like that. |
| 05:44.36 | Lanken | Renze: xine makes things pretty simple, so I guess there isn't much benefit. |
| 05:44.45 | Renze | Lanken: if you want an example, load a jpeg, edit it, save, load, edit, save, etc etc and watch the picture turn to crap |
| 05:44.46 | Lanken | MilhousePunkRock: physicians don't do physics :) |
| 05:45.10 | Lanken | Renze: because of that phenomenon, one guy I know thinks that merely viewing a jpeg causes it to degrade. |
| 05:45.24 | Lanken | so he's like "I'd show you this pic from my vacation but I don't want to degrade it" |
| 05:45.25 | Renze | that's just silly |
| 05:45.32 | Lanken | yeah, he's not a computer guy... |
| 05:45.35 | Renze | it only loses quality on the saving |
| 05:45.38 | Lanken | he's also not under 40 |
| 05:45.51 | Renze | in a few years I won't be under 40 either |
| 05:45.52 | Lanken | so the whole "IT's FUCKING DIGITAL" thing doesn't really sink in. |
| 05:46.07 | MilhousePunkRock | Let me check if someone is awake in #gentoo-xfce, maybe they have heard of that weird issue... |
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| 05:46.36 | AngryElf | Renze, that's not really helpful, what am I suppose to do with dcop? |
| 05:46.53 | Renze | AngryElf: as a user, nothing... it should all work transparently |
| 05:47.30 | Renze | AngryElf: if you use the amarok options to burn a playlist to disc, it will use k3b to do the burning |
| 05:48.04 | Renze | AngryElf: dcop is KDE3's interprocess communications framework |
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| 05:49.57 | carutsu | hello is there a way to mute the Konqueror flash sounds? |
| 05:49.59 | Jucato | to put it simply, dcop allows kde apps to (transparently) send messages to one another |
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| 05:51.56 | carutsu | anyone? |
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| 05:54.20 | eternaleye | carutsu: There's an option in plugins to redirect flash sounds into arts. If you disable it, that should silence them, but it's a hackish method |
| 05:54.56 | carutsu | eternaleye mmm, weird, it should have something, I'm gonna post a wish then |
| 05:55.20 | carutsu | eternaleye in the mean time i'll use that it's so annoying |
| 05:56.31 | Renze | carutsu: that is a feature that belongs in the plugin, not in konqueror |
| 05:56.44 | Renze | carutsu: talk to adobe |
| 05:57.08 | carutsu | Renze: howver in windows there's a little app that do that, can't konqueror learn it? |
| 05:57.26 | Renze | carutsu: because windows does it that way makes it right? |
| 05:57.51 | eternaleye | It's like transparent FTP in the kernel: Theoretically nice, but not where it belongs |
| 05:58.13 | carutsu | Renze: i never said that, however if konqueror can't be tweaked to do that what browser can? |
| 05:58.25 | Renze | none, because it belongs in the plugin |
| 05:58.42 | carutsu | Renze: so we should just hate adobe as much as we can? |
| 05:58.50 | Jucato | perhaps the plugin on windows works differently from the plugin on Linux |
| 05:59.01 | Renze | carutsu: I already do ;) |
| 05:59.36 | carutsu | Renze: I still think there has to be another solution... |
| 05:59.46 | Renze | carutsu: mute kmix? |
| 06:00.00 | carutsu | Renze: no way i'm listening Amarok |
| 06:01.56 | carutsu | Jucato: as far as i know (which isn't much, really) it's basically a hack 'couse it overrides some audo files |
| 06:01.59 | Renze | carutsu: you could always switch plugins to "load on click" and then not click on them |
| 06:02.28 | carutsu | *audio |
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| 06:02.46 | carutsu | Renze: mmm, i might, but then if i need them... o damn there's no good solution, xD |
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| 06:04.05 | Lanken | carutsu: I have been really happy with the load-on-click option |
| 06:05.22 | carutsu | Lanken: i'll try it although everybody would be happy with a 'mute sounds' in every flash site, it's intrusive and unpolite, xD |
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| 06:17.14 | Renze | man, those auto-away messages are annoying |
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| 06:33.05 | TobiG | hi, did anyone here built clucene-core ? |
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| 06:36.41 | Q-collective | I wonder, are there any plans for k3b to use libburn (instead of several million tools)? |
| 06:36.43 | Q-collective | :> |
| 06:37.13 | Renze | several million? I count less than ten |
| 06:38.39 | Q-collective | well, slight exaggeration aside, the point stands |
| 06:39.17 | Renze | Q-collective: ask the authors |
| 06:40.08 | Q-collective | well, for lack of a densily populated #k3b channel, I'm asking here :) |
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| 06:41.06 | Renze | then prepare for a long wait ;) |
| 06:41.14 | Q-collective | willdo ^_^ |
| 06:41.37 | Q-collective | hehe |
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| 06:44.58 | Lanken | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.19 | samtool | Hi Everyone |
| 06:45.20 | Lanken | I tried the kcontrol > peripherals > mouse settings, but it didn't have any effect on kwin. |
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| 06:45.41 | samtool | I m new to this |
| 06:45.52 | Renze | new to what? kde, or irc? |
| 06:46.09 | samtool | both |
| 06:46.30 | Renze | been ircing since 1991, and kdeing since 1999 |
| 06:46.58 | samtool | Hi Old man |
| 06:47.10 | samtool | but old is gold I believe |
| 06:47.21 | samtool | :) |
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| 06:47.41 | qupada | ah hahaha |
| 06:47.56 | Renze | qupada: quiet, you! |
| 06:49.50 | qupada | Renze: you're not old until you're yelling at "those kids" to get off your lawn |
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| 06:52.31 | Lanken | can I /ignore myself? |
| 06:52.41 | Lanken | test |
| 06:52.49 | Lanken | nope |
| 06:53.04 | Renze | who said that? |
| 06:53.20 | Jucato | Renze: who said what? |
| 06:53.32 | Renze | Jucato: somebody said something? |
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| 06:53.44 | Jucato | dunno. saw nothing |
| 06:53.58 | Renze | me neither |
| 06:54.23 | Jucato | oh well :) |
| 06:54.36 | Renze | must've imagined it |
| 06:54.59 | Jucato | definitely :D |
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| 07:02.02 | spiekey | Hello! |
| 07:02.19 | spiekey | is there a way to remove the window border by a command or option? |
| 07:02.30 | spiekey | i would like to have no border when i start mplayer |
| 07:02.51 | Renze | spiekey: right click titlebar, advanced, special window settings |
| 07:02.59 | Renze | or special application settings |
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| 07:03.11 | spiekey | Renze: is there a automated way i can script or something? |
| 07:03.26 | MilhousePunkRock | Hello everyone again! |
| 07:03.28 | Renze | you can use kstart, but special window settings are remembered |
| 07:03.41 | MilhousePunkRock | Which one is the most important config file for KWin? |
| 07:04.12 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: .kde/share/config/kwinrc ? |
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| 07:04.32 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: Sounds like you are just guessing? |
| 07:04.48 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: having no idea what setting you're looking for, all I can do is guess |
| 07:04.50 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: Did you get what I described like an hour and a half ago? |
| 07:05.13 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: probably not... I'm lacking energy today, so my concentration is suffering |
| 07:05.42 | MilhousePunkRock | Of course I can describe my problem again: |
| 07:06.01 | spiekey | Renze: kstart does not have a noborder option :( |
| 07:06.10 | MilhousePunkRock | With my main user account, I can't launch anything but a kwin session. No beryl, no xfwm |
| 07:06.48 | Renze | there is no kde setting that could possibly prevent another session from starting |
| 07:06.50 | MilhousePunkRock | I created a new user, there everything works like a charm, be it switching to beryl from kwin, switching to xfwm or even starting a complete xfce session from kdm |
| 07:07.25 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: check the ~/.xsession-errors file for the user after a failed attempt to log into another session |
| 07:08.13 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: OK, let me check that... |
| 07:08.32 | Renze | anywho, I'm off to do grocery shopping |
| 07:08.51 | Lanken | such a hassle |
| 07:08.55 | Lanken | we spend half our lives eating |
| 07:10.48 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: The xsession-errors is empty |
| 07:11.26 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: I am not looking for a setting that would prevent another session, but an error in the settings that does it |
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| 07:11.58 | MilhousePunkRock | Someone suggested to copy the settings files over to the new user until the error appears there to trace the problem |
| 07:12.25 | Lanken | sounds painful. |
| 07:12.51 | MilhousePunkRock | Lanken: Indeed... |
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| 07:18.49 | spiekey | anyone an idea how can remove the window border from an application? with kstart, a start option or some tool? |
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| 07:19.36 | Lanken | you can kill the window manager (not recommended) |
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| 07:20.48 | Lanken | I'm curious what you want to do that for. |
| 07:20.58 | Lanken | Eterm can be launched with no decorations |
| 07:21.05 | Lanken | if it's a terminal emulator that you want |
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| 07:48.43 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: there is no incorrect setting in KDE that could cause other sessions not to start... not even a KDM one that I can think of |
| 07:49.18 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: But is has to be something user-sided, since it is working with the new user account |
| 07:49.34 | Renze | yes, I agree that it is user-side... I just don't think it is a KDE setting |
| 07:49.54 | MilhousePunkRock | Renze: What else, possibly? |
| 07:50.02 | MilhousePunkRock | xinitrc maybe? |
| 07:50.23 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: I cannot think of anything that could cause that behaviour (plus I don't have anything but KDE installed, nor do I want it) |
| 07:51.13 | MilhousePunkRock | I am not saying it is something built into kde that would prevent other WMs to be used, but there must be some setting gone wrong, dont you agree? |
| 07:51.16 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: you are aware that .xsession-errors is overwritten at the start of a new X session, yes? it is kinda hinted at by the name |
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| 07:51.36 | Renze | MilhousePunkRock: yes, but since this is #kde, it is probably not the best place to ask |
| 07:51.38 | frano486 | ciao a tutti |
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| 07:52.11 | frano486 | sorry for my english |
| 07:52.42 | frano486 | if I drag&drop a file on a directory |
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| 07:53.24 | frano486 | error:you not have a privilegies |
| 07:53.28 | frano486 | :S |
| 07:53.39 | Renze | what directory, and does it belong to the user? |
| 07:53.51 | frano486 | trash |
| 07:54.06 | Renze | trash isn't a directory |
| 07:54.15 | frano486 | Oo |
| 07:54.20 | frano486 | Desktop |
| 07:54.27 | Renze | check the permissions/ownership of .local/share/Trash/* |
| 07:54.44 | frano486 | All directory |
| 07:54.45 | frano486 | ?!? |
| 07:54.50 | Renze | yes |
| 07:55.33 | Renze | the trash icon on your desktop points to trash://, which is handled by a kioslave |
| 07:55.36 | Q-collective | chown <user>:<group> -R .local/share/Trash/ |
| 07:55.37 | Q-collective | ? |
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| 07:56.05 | Renze | it could also be a missing w or x |
| 07:56.24 | Q-collective | you don't need x for Trash |
| 07:56.56 | Renze | point, but it allows the owner to enter that directory if needed |
| 07:57.10 | frano486 | thx for all....bye ^^ |
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| 07:57.16 | Renze | was that it? |
| 07:57.21 | Q-collective | I guess |
| 07:57.22 | Renze | bah |
| 07:57.29 | Renze | damn good guess on my part |
| 07:57.35 | Q-collective | no cocksucking this time |
| 07:57.48 | Q-collective | poor Renze |
| 07:58.09 | Renze | I don't care about that... I would just have liked to know that that was the problem |
| 07:58.20 | Q-collective | true |
| 07:58.22 | Q-collective | heh |
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| 08:39.32 | JohnFlux_ | Shirakawasuna: vmSize means nothing, vmRSS is a fairly good measure. In KDE4 there's instead "Memory" and "Shared Memory" usage. vmSize has been removed |
| 08:39.57 | Worf | hmm... more and more frequently i'm reading about dolphin and that it's going to be the default filemanager for kde4... well - it's still a long way to kde4, but i do wonder what features dolphin will have that konqueror has not... |
| 08:40.11 | JohnFlux_ | Shirakawasuna: from the view in ksysguard I mean |
| 08:40.22 | JohnFlux_ | Worf: none I think |
| 08:40.36 | JohnFlux_ | Worf: unless you count breadcrumbs |
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| 08:43.27 | Worf | Yeah, that was my impression so far. |
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| 08:43.33 | mrigns | Worf: actually dolphin got less feats, but thats exactly what's the purpose making it default |
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| 08:45.44 | n3storm | having less features is a big feature :) |
| 08:46.06 | mrigns | ya |
| 08:46.11 | Worf | well, if i was a average troll i'd start to flame about the decision, but i am confident that people know what they do and put my future desktop in their hands - despite the bad feeling in my stomach :) |
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| 08:46.32 | mrigns | konqueror is still there if you want to use it |
| 08:46.55 | Worf | hopefully it still get's enough attention |
| 08:47.09 | mardi | nothing like file and web browsing in the same window, i say ;) |
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| 08:47.13 | Worf | "arts also is still here if i want to use it" |
| 08:47.23 | mrigns | i think it will focus on the web browser part |
| 08:47.36 | mrigns | but im no dev |
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| 08:49.40 | thedonvaughn | hey guys, I just setup kmail and I am curious to try it, however when I try to sign my messages with my gnupg key an error returns "signing failed: bad passphrase". How do I configure kmail to ask me for my passphrase? |
| 08:49.53 | mardi | if only knoqueror did irc too, and was then integrated into kontact... |
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| 08:51.17 | Worf | thedonvaughn: you propably miss... uh... what was the name... pinentry-qt or something like that |
| 08:51.48 | Worf | some gnupg part to ask you for passphrases |
| 08:51.48 | thedonvaughn | ok thanks |
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| 08:52.50 | mrigns | ~attack | mardi |
| 08:53.01 | apt | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing | mardi |
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| 08:54.42 | Worf | well, irc integration is stupid since a irc app is something that should be open a whole session or so. but i see no problem with konquerors current design of being a universal file manager and viewer |
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| 08:55.14 | Worf | it's modular, it's in memory, it's sharing stuff with other apps, etc... |
| 08:55.44 | Worf | hence it's not feeling bloated to me. and i know hardly a feature i'd like to miss |
| 08:56.27 | Worf | sure, there is room for improvement. thumbnail generation for example... |
| 08:56.42 | TobiG | If I may chip in, it has stunning features and cool protocol support |
| 08:56.58 | TobiG | but the UI needs polishing |
| 08:58.20 | mrigns | guys, if u r man like me and want to know what it feels like to be in the first weeks of pregnancy. just grab 20 chicken mcnuggets right before going to bed |
| 08:58.46 | Worf | rotfl |
| 08:59.06 | mrigns | ;P |
| 09:00.42 | Worf | i think i leave experiments like that to you |
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| 09:04.13 | EvilGuru | If K3B able to create video dvds from .avi files by itself or do I need to use something like mencoder to convert them into a different format and just use K3B for burning? |
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| 09:06.01 | Worf | i think you need tp convert them manually to mpeg |
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| 09:07.06 | Worf | but true geeks burn the avi "as is" and have a dvd player that is capable of playing em :) |
| 09:07.14 | N0Lif3 | How can I set KDE's desktop orientation to arrange icons to the right side (Mac OSX-style)? |
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| 09:09.15 | Shirakawasuna | JohnFlux_: cool |
| 09:09.27 | Shirakawasuna | N0Lif3: I do believe it's impossible, tell me if you find out |
| 09:10.20 | N0Lif3 | Shirakawasuna: yeah ok |
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| 09:16.04 | sohum | hi, i've lost the thing i had on the bottom of my ktorrent |
| 09:16.25 | sohum | the thing which would tell you the status of the torrent, and the peers, and the file status |
| 09:16.37 | sohum | (you can see why i didn't google it) |
| 09:16.44 | sohum | how do I get it back? |
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| 09:20.32 | N0Lif3 | Well ok, I have another KDE question. There is this option in KDesktop (in Behavior) that lets you put a bar at the top of the screen that lets you view the toolbar of the current application you're using (Exactly like in Mac OS X). I've found that all of my apps work with it great accept for Opera webbrowser |
| 09:20.41 | N0Lif3 | Opera doesn't use that top bar |
| 09:20.54 | N0Lif3 | How do I force Opera to use it? |
| 09:22.15 | N0Lif3 | except for Opera^ |
| 09:23.51 | mrigns | N0Lif3: i dont think opera supports it |
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| 09:24.36 | N0Lif3 | mrigns: yeah, that's too bad. I thought you guys might've known a workaround |
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| 09:52.42 | TobiG | does anyone knows the answer to this : ? strigi is asking for MAGIC_INCLUDE_DIR , which application ships that ? |
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| 09:56.17 | pavi | Hi anyone involved in i18n here ? |
| 09:57.22 | pavi | does anyone know where the strings of KDE main menu are stored in po files ? |
| 09:58.46 | rdale | there in the .desktop files |
| 09:58.57 | rdale | ^there^they're |
| 09:59.02 | pavi | Ok thanks :) |
| 09:59.21 | rdale | and .directory files |
| 10:00.11 | Simeon_H | I'm bored |
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| 10:00.37 | pavi | throws or kicks ? |
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| 10:01.59 | Simeon_H | throw |
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| 10:03.37 | root_ | ping 192.168.0.44 |
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| 10:05.30 | pavi | rdale I am actually replacing Hindi language pack files(mo files) with telugu (mo files) (As there is no telugu language pack available) I am not able to change the menu but all others are changing |
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| 10:11.34 | rdale | pavi: i'm not really much of a translation expert - but you shouldn't need to replace mo files should you, just add extra ones? |
| 10:11.53 | rdale | and add extra entries to the .desktop files for telgu |
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| 10:22.37 | mrigns | did u know that in 80% of central european car accidents an ambulance is involved? |
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| 10:23.46 | benJIman | After the fact, not in the accident. |
| 10:23.52 | Renze | shouldn't they be sent to 100% of the accidents? |
| 10:24.16 | benJIman | Renze: well just knocking the back bumper probably counts as an accident |
| 10:24.36 | Renze | bah, that doesn't count... that's an insurance claim, not an accident :P |
| 10:26.19 | Renze | mrigns: did you know that 68% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
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| 10:26.52 | mrigns | bla :D |
| 10:27.03 | mrigns | i just wanted attention |
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| 10:27.18 | Renze | run down the street naked |
| 10:27.35 | mrigns | they already know me ;P |
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| 10:28.57 | mrigns | work sucks too, all of my working room is flooded by papers |
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| 10:29.42 | mrigns | maybe throwing a lighter would solve this problem |
| 10:30.17 | Renze | make paper airplanes and throw them out the window |
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| 10:30.32 | mrigns | burning paper airplanes! |
| 10:30.35 | mrigns | good idea |
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| 10:32.41 | Jucato | hm... someone from the kde forum suggesting that Konqueror (web browser) should drop khtml and just use webkit. lol :D |
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| 10:33.09 | Renze | that's why I don't use forums :D |
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| 10:33.29 | Jucato | there's barely anyone there anyway :) |
| 10:33.42 | Jucato | but for the few instances that people do need help, I'm there :) |
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| 10:35.17 | mrigns | drop, drop, drop |
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| 10:35.37 | Renze | a bit faster, and a lot more of them |
| 10:35.50 | Renze | I'll probably find out tomorrow |
| 10:36.02 | Renze | parts of NZ should be getting hail tomorrow |
| 10:36.06 | Jucato | O.o |
| 10:36.16 | mrigns | listening to flatulences > all |
| 10:36.33 | Jucato | mrigns: you listen to yourself too much |
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| 10:37.01 | mrigns | life got borig after marriage, don't take fun away of my life :D |
| 10:38.02 | mrigns | it's like living with your parents again :( |
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| 10:38.33 | qupada | Renze: parts of lower hutt are getting hail already |
| 10:38.35 | Jucato | I would probably rather live with my mom than with a partner :P |
| 10:38.46 | Renze | qupada: lucky you |
| 10:38.47 | Jucato | qupada: he was serious? O.O |
| 10:38.58 | Renze | I'm always serious, except when I'm not |
| 10:39.25 | mrigns | Jucato: there is less fear living with your mom :D |
| 10:39.44 | mrigns | because there is this blood connection |
| 10:40.57 | mrigns | you can say "no" to your mom, but dont dare ever to say no to your wife, unless you want to get killed |
| 10:41.20 | Jucato | heh |
| 10:41.32 | loong | haha |
| 10:41.44 | qupada | please choose your words more carefully. i don't think there are many ways you could have made that sentence sount worse |
| 10:41.55 | qupada | sound* |
| 10:42.21 | mrigns | i cant. my english sucks... |
| 10:43.42 | mrigns | ^^ |
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| 10:44.45 | qupada | Jucato: yours? |
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| 10:44.58 | Jucato | no. mrigns' |
| 10:45.14 | mrigns | qupada: instead of flaming me you could teach me doing it right... |
| 10:45.54 | qupada | better luck next time ;) |
| 10:45.58 | mrigns | -.- |
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| 10:46.40 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 10:46.48 | Renze | hola |
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| 10:46.55 | mrigns | ciao |
| 10:46.59 | mrigns | hallo |
| 10:47.03 | qupada | mrigns: i'm not flaming you, just advising you that some of us *cough*Renze*cough* have extremely dirty minds and you need to pick your words very carefully, lest unintentional double entendres spring up |
| 10:47.05 | Kebianizao | hey Renze :) |
| 10:47.08 | mrigns | こんいちわ |
| 10:47.14 | Renze | ni hao |
| 10:47.20 | Jucato | mabuhay |
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| 10:47.27 | Jucato | moin |
| 10:47.33 | Renze | guten tag |
| 10:47.40 | Kebianizao | guten morgen |
| 10:47.40 | Jucato | tag! you're it |
| 10:47.42 | logixoul | здрасти бре хора! |
| 10:48.02 | Renze | 私のホバークラフト は鰻が一杯です。 |
| 10:48.14 | Jucato | 10010011101 |
| 10:48.18 | logixoul | :) |
| 10:48.24 | Renze | not enough digits, Jucato ;) |
| 10:48.24 | Kebianizao | :D |
| 10:48.31 | Kebianizao | bzip2? |
| 10:48.32 | Jucato | heheh |
| 10:48.40 | mrigns | qupada: hmm what was the double entendre in that sentence? |
| 10:48.42 | Jucato | gz? |
| 10:49.14 | Kebianizao | when I open a media on a new tab, then view changes from my default to icon view |
| 10:49.40 | Kebianizao | is there any way to change that or at least storing my settings? |
| 10:49.52 | Renze | only if that media is writeable |
| 10:49.56 | Kebianizao | I like detailed list view |
| 10:50.07 | Kebianizao | sometimes yes, what shuld I do? |
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| 10:50.51 | Renze | assuming you have "save view changes per folder" ticked, just change the view and the settings will be saved on the media |
| 10:51.32 | Kebianizao | indeed I don't have that enable, I want all folders are seen the same |
| 10:51.44 | mrigns | KELLERKIND! |
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| 10:51.46 | mrigns | ;P |
| 10:51.47 | Renze | then I have no idea why it is defaulting to icon view |
| 10:51.49 | Kebianizao | if I enable it what would it save? |
| 10:51.58 | Renze | mrigns: I'm not debating that :P |
| 10:52.44 | Kebianizao | also I would like that everytime I open a new tab it opens with my home and not a blank tab, is that possible? |
| 10:55.19 | mrigns | lol, if using google maps, entering a route between europe and america i.e. will result in a point saying "just swim through the atlantic ocean (5000km)" |
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| 10:56.57 | allen369_ | Good morning to all. |
| 10:58.29 | Kebianizao | Renze: alredy reported: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108542 |
| 10:58.41 | Renze | Kebianizao: vote for it then ;) |
| 10:59.07 | Kebianizao | I'll do if I find it interesting once I read it completely |
| 10:59.11 | Kebianizao | :) |
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| 11:05.07 | qupada | Renze: i can be around with your choice of a frying pan, brick, baseball bat or cloroform within 20 minutes |
| 11:05.33 | Renze | no need... I've been feeling drained of energy all day, so I can manage just fine |
| 11:05.35 | qupada | just how unconscious were you planning? |
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| 11:05.59 | Renze | you mortals refer to it as "sleep" ;) |
| 11:06.12 | qupada | right. then the brick? |
| 11:06.23 | Renze | sounds good |
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| 11:08.35 | Renze | bah, the rain stopped |
| 11:08.48 | Renze | the sound of rain always helps me get to sleep |
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| 11:10.24 | Renze | ah well, guess I'll read for a while... hasta mañana, y'all |
| 11:12.42 | ryanakca | see yah |
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| 11:19.36 | Kebianizao | what does verified mean for a bug? |
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| 11:25.01 | sohum | hi, i've lost the thing i had on the bottom of my ktorrent |
| 11:25.04 | sohum | the thing which would tell you the status of the torrent, and the peers, and the file status |
| 11:25.07 | sohum | (you can see why i didn't google it) |
| 11:25.07 | sohum | how do I get it back? |
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| 11:25.16 | logixoul | sohum: enable the info plugin |
| 11:25.26 | logixoul | Kebianizao: we don't use this status in our bugzilla. |
| 11:25.51 | Kebianizao | logixoul: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108542 |
| 11:26.04 | sohum | logixoui: infowidget plugin is laoded |
| 11:26.07 | sohum | *loaded |
| 11:26.20 | sohum | and the show ... are all checked |
| 11:26.59 | logixoul | Kebianizao: weird... well the description is in http://bugs.kde.org/bug_status.html |
| 11:27.18 | logixoul | Kebianizao: but it's bundled with Closed and Resolved there... |
| 11:27.24 | logixoul | ask also in #kde-bugs |
| 11:27.41 | Kebianizao | seems an alias to solved |
| 11:28.02 | logixoul | dunno |
| 11:28.14 | Kebianizao | bah, it's not that important |
| 11:28.17 | Kebianizao | thanks BTW |
| 11:28.20 | logixoul | np |
| 11:28.24 | Kebianizao | bye :) |
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| 11:29.56 | sohum | logixoui: even disabling, restarting, enabling, and restarting doesn't help |
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| 11:38.14 | sohum | hi, i've lost the thing i had on the bottom of my ktorrent |
| 11:38.17 | sohum | the thing which would tell you the status of the torrent, and the peers, and the file status |
| 11:38.20 | sohum | (you can see why i didn't google it) |
| 11:38.31 | sohum | infowidget plugin is loaded |
| 11:38.34 | sohum | and the show ... are all checked |
| 11:38.41 | sohum | even disabling, restarting, enabling, and restarting doesn't help |
| 11:38.50 | sohum | how do I get it back? |
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| 11:40.13 | logixoul | sohum: oh, you've written me. hadn't noticed because you misspelled logixouL ;) most likely you don't see the infowidget because the grippie is dragged all the way to the bottom. check if you can see it and drag it back. |
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| 11:41.03 | sohum | logixoul: no, the grippy is there, , but clicking and dragging it up doesn't help |
| 11:42.21 | sohum | logixoul: oh, wait, just got it |
| 11:42.25 | logixoul | :) |
| 11:42.37 | sohum | logixoul: apparently there is a minimum it must be dragged |
| 11:42.39 | logixoul | yeah |
| 11:42.44 | sohum | logixoul: thanks :) |
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| 11:42.50 | logixoul | it's supposed to be more comfortable this way :) |
| 11:42.51 | logixoul | np |
| 11:43.33 | sohum | oh, and while i'm here, is there a way to sort the files downlaoded by percentage done, ignoring apth? |
| 11:43.37 | sohum | *path |
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| 11:43.59 | sohum | right now, I have to unfold each folder |
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| 11:44.13 | sohum | and then it sorts them within each folder |
| 11:44.36 | sohum | how do I get an overall view of which files are downlaoded? |
| 11:44.47 | Pensacola | is there a shortcut or button I can add to minimize all windows? |
| 11:45.31 | logixoul | Pensacola: ctrl+alt+d |
| 11:45.34 | logixoul | (by default) |
| 11:45.52 | Pensacola | sweet, that's exactly what I was looking for |
| 11:46.07 | logixoul | Pensacola: you can also add the "show desktop" applet to your kicker, if you wanna point&click |
| 11:46.52 | Pensacola | thx for the info |
| 11:46.55 | Pensacola | kde rules :) |
| 11:47.04 | logixoul | np |
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| 12:08.27 | SuN | Is there a way to make Konqueror remember the icon line-up like on the desktop (i.e. turn off sorting)? |
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| 12:13.34 | lenscape | SuN: right click desktop -> icons -> lock in place |
| 12:14.36 | SuN | Yeah, that's what I want to do... but in Konqueror :) |
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| 12:14.45 | SuN | Or does that apply to konqueror as well? |
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| 12:20.11 | hadico | hello |
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| 12:20.57 | ^Willie^ | hi there |
| 12:21.14 | silit | hai |
| 12:21.28 | silit | KDE 3.5.6? |
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| 12:21.36 | ^Willie^ | i have a small problem :) mouse focus .. dunno if more ppl have problems like this ? |
| 12:21.42 | silit | nice look? |
| 12:22.17 | ^Willie^ | kde 3.5.2 here |
| 12:22.33 | ^Willie^ | on gentoo |
| 12:22.53 | silit | im still use 3.5.0 |
| 12:23.08 | silit | in SUSE 10 |
| 12:23.27 | ^Willie^ | i have a digiconnect 4 port kvm switch .. but when i use it .. it f#ckt my mouse .. |
| 12:23.40 | ^Willie^ | ps2 and usb both react the same |
| 12:26.03 | ^Willie^ | in kde it lost his focus totaly .. |
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| 12:26.04 | ^Willie^ | click on an other window and it will not respond on the activate window request .. |
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| 12:32.34 | barbadillo | hi people, what's the equivalent to gkrellm for kde? |
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| 12:35.36 | earendil__ | barbadillo: try ksim ? |
| 12:36.03 | earendil__ | http://ksim.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:36.55 | barbadillo | ok thanks i try it |
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| 12:38.07 | Mohjive | where should one place a desktop file for an application for KDE to find it? |
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| 12:38.34 | milliams | Hmm, KDE's stopped doing auto-repeat when I hold down a key. Where's the setting for that? |
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| 12:39.21 | Jucato | milliams: kcontrol -> peripherals -> keyboard? |
| 12:40.24 | milliams | Jucato: cheers. I wonder how that got turned off :S |
| 12:40.46 | Jucato | a ghost? :/ |
| 12:41.41 | darkelf | any idea about why doing a make install kicker goes off and on (like flicking) or ist specific to me ? |
| 12:41.43 | BlendedSheep | milliams: The X-Server settings can affect input devices too, so If you've been changing graphics driver settings, or editing xorg.conof yumight have changed it |
| 12:41.53 | BlendedSheep | xorg.conf* |
| 12:42.29 | milliams | BlendedSheep: Yeah, that's probably it. I was hacking xorg.conf to get my Wacom working |
| 12:42.34 | BlendedSheep | ;P |
| 12:42.52 | milliams | ...or a ghost... |
| 12:43.07 | BlendedSheep | Well the ghost explaination is more exciting... |
| 12:43.18 | milliams | heh, surely is! |
| 12:43.31 | Jucato | :D |
| 12:43.52 | Jucato | darkelf: no problems with make install here |
| 12:43.57 | Jucato | (Kubuntu) |
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| 12:46.11 | darkelf | Jucato: thanks |
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| 12:50.52 | Agiofws | hi |
| 12:50.58 | Agiofws | whats the hey the kde tool to show what countries have daylight ? |
| 12:51.10 | ed___ | hi forum - I'm using kubuntu (feisty), when right clicking on a systray app icon in Kicker I get the screen switching to black and back several times and the menu item selection behaviour becomes very very slow, the kicker panel is set to auto-hide after 2 seconds and when the panel is not set to auto-hide it all works fine - any ideas? |
| 12:53.05 | Sho_ | Agiofws: kworldclock, it's in kdetoys iirc |
| 12:54.04 | Agiofws | kworldclock <==== |
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| 12:56.51 | ed___ | for clarification it's definitely a glitch associated with auto-hiding, as soon as the animation begins this is when the conflict occurs between the displayed context menu and the taskbar (kicker) auto-hiding |
| 12:57.32 | borso | hello. I'm using kaudiocreator but it will not add national characters to the filenames. how can I fix that? |
| 12:57.36 | ed___ | if no one's got a view on this I'll post a bug report later today |
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| 13:05.07 | earendil__ | hi all |
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| 13:05.30 | earendil__ | i get some errors when trying to compile kde4svn with kdesvnbuild |
| 13:05.42 | earendil__ | http://pastebin.archlinux.fr/867 |
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| 13:12.01 | ed___ | fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/105530 |
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| 13:17.12 | xororand | i.e. i don't want them to be shown when others close the window which can be quite spammy sometimes |
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| 13:21.46 | Mez | gah how do I get KDE to only show the task list for the tasks on the current desktop |
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| 13:33.20 | Sho_ | Mez: KControl -> Desktop -> Taskbar -> Uncheck "Show windows from all desktops" |
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| 14:23.11 | Schuenemann | Hey, Is it possible to export a .psd to .html using Krita? |
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| 14:26.53 | farhod | does someone use adesklet doityourself? |
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| 14:30.28 | PlasmaHH | hi, when creating a bookmark within konsole with a ssh:// url for an ssh session, can I somehow pass parameters to the ssh? |
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| 14:45.22 | logixoul | farhod: is adesklet even a kde project? |
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| 14:46.45 | farhod | logixoul, yes |
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| 14:48.26 | Alethes | <Schuenemann> Hey, Is it possible to export a .psd to .html using Krita? <--hahaha |
| 14:48.50 | logixoul | Alethes: um, what? it's plausible |
| 14:49.04 | logixoul | farhod: not really. please use http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/forum/ for support, thanks. |
| 14:49.05 | Alethes | making the image an html doc? |
| 14:49.13 | Alethes | for an image map or what? |
| 14:49.23 | Alethes | or an image of the html tags? hehe |
| 14:49.44 | logixoul | Alethes: psd isn't an image. it's a whole graphic project. so for example the html would contain the separate layers. |
| 14:50.10 | logixoul | Alethes: then again, I'm not sure how much photoshop saves in there - perhaps it saves stuff like undo history too :) |
| 14:50.19 | Alethes | heh |
| 14:50.27 | Alethes | doesn't seem very practical to me |
| 14:50.28 | Alethes | but who knows |
| 14:50.34 | logixoul | agreed, it's pretty useless |
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| 14:51.24 | row | is there a prot in kde for browsing iso's without having to manually mount it? |
| 14:52.02 | logixoul | prot? program? |
| 14:52.11 | row | sorry |
| 14:52.12 | Sho_ | I do think I saw an ISO kioslave once actually |
| 14:52.12 | logixoul | prot was that K-PAX guy |
| 14:52.15 | row | not with it today |
| 14:52.16 | row | program |
| 14:52.20 | Sho_ | I think it was installed by Krusader |
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| 14:52.40 | Sho_ | So then it would work via iso:/path/to/image.iso |
| 14:52.49 | logixoul | I *think* I heard something about the latest Dolphin having it, too. |
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| 14:56.25 | row | k |
| 14:56.26 | row | thanks |
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| 15:08.10 | PlasmaHH | can I create an uri in konqueror that will open a konsole with a program+options in it? |
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| 15:19.28 | logixoul | PlasmaHH: are you imagining something like konsole://cat%20fstab |
| 15:19.36 | logixoul | I don't think this exists. |
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| 15:20.02 | PlasmaHH | something like "konsole://ssh foo@foobar -xyz" |
| 15:20.32 | logixoul | nope, you can't do it I think. |
| 15:20.39 | PlasmaHH | :/ that sux |
| 15:20.49 | logixoul | why do you need it? you have the minicli. |
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| 15:21.18 | PlasmaHH | I would like to open different ssh sessions to different hosts via bookmarks in my actual running konsole. and whatever minicli is |
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| 15:21.31 | logixoul | minicli is the Run Command dialog |
| 15:21.45 | rockprincess | any german translators here? |
| 15:22.20 | PlasmaHH | logixoul: well then I could also start another konsole session and type it in there, but I want to save that typing by using bookmarks |
| 15:23.27 | logixoul | PlasmaHH: a workaround would be to add links to your kicker/desktop/kmenu, or add global shortcuts |
| 15:23.41 | logixoul | admittedly, a bit clumsy. |
| 15:24.08 | logixoul | I think you're actually supposed to use Konsole's multiple session types for that. |
| 15:24.47 | PlasmaHH | yeah, beside that each one would open in an own ugly window, doing that for a few hundred will miss a bit overview |
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| 15:25.29 | PlasmaHH | the bookmarks can be sorted into a hierarchy, the session types are flat |
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| 15:27.59 | PlasmaHH | it wouldnt be a problem if ssh:// would accept options for ssh |
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| 15:29.36 | logixoul | PlasmaHH: if you wanna reuse existing windows, use something like `dcop konsole default newSession myworkserver |
| 15:30.05 | PlasmaHH | thats all more typing than typing in the actual cmd, and my goal was to save typing |
| 15:31.14 | logixoul | you can create a .desktop file (or short script) that basically calls the above command with myworkserver being the param, so you save typing. |
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| 15:31.51 | logixoul | if you would file a wishlist for command bookmarks in konsole, that'd be nice :) |
| 15:32.03 | rockprincess | hello?! are german kde translators online? |
| 15:32.18 | PlasmaHH | logixoul: no thanks, I dont like getting bashed |
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| 15:32.50 | logixoul | ok |
| 15:33.13 | logixoul | rockprincess: you could try also in #kde-devel |
| 15:33.19 | mardi | i'm kinda new, but i think i have command bookmarks in konsole... |
| 15:33.19 | logixoul | rockprincess: or #kde.de |
| 15:33.28 | PlasmaHH | which is the consequence of filing a feature request without attaching a perfect patch that implements it in the style and sense of the maintainers |
| 15:33.37 | logixoul | mardi: they only save the working directory here |
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| 15:33.49 | mardi | ooh ok |
| 15:33.51 | rockprincess | thank you logixoul! |
| 15:34.28 | logixoul | PlasmaHH: not in my experience. |
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| 15:34.34 | logixoul | rockprincess: welcome |
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| 15:36.19 | PlasmaHH | logixoul: the last thing I requested was when there was some experimental warning dialog that warned you about full discs to be configurable and best not percent but actual size. then people bashed me for that configuring that would be useless feature and even if, everyone wants percent |
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| 15:38.58 | ilker | bye aLL |
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| 15:40.21 | logixoul | PlasmaHH: bad luck ;) |
| 15:40.31 | logixoul | I personally prefer it in MB too |
| 15:40.57 | PlasmaHH | I prefer to disable it ;) |
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| 15:41.36 | logixoul | aha |
| 15:42.18 | PlasmaHH | usually the disc runs full because of what I am currently doing and then its just redundant because the program Im using screams anyways ;) |
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| 15:43.02 | logixoul | for me it normally happens because some torrent I started 2 days ago and forgot about slowly crept into my free space. then it's useful. |
| 15:43.29 | PlasmaHH | hehe, yeah, Im not doing that download stuff |
| 15:43.38 | logixoul | aha |
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| 15:49.03 | barbadillo | ups |
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| 15:50.53 | logixoul | how do you guys manage your trash can? I never used it, not even in windows, but I suppose that might be a bad habit. |
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| 15:51.15 | dmarkey | how do i change the k menu button pinture |
| 15:51.22 | thiago | ~kmenu |
| 15:51.24 | apt | Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx |
| 15:51.24 | Gentle | logixoul: well.. I always shift-del ;) |
| 15:51.30 | logixoul | Gentle: yep, me too. |
| 15:52.11 | Gentle | logixoul: also, I never understood those guys who told me "You may use my computer but DON'T EMPTY THE TRASHCAN! I use it for backups" |
| 15:52.13 | PlasmaHH | trash can? there is such a thing? |
| 15:52.34 | mardi | i killed the trash can off the panel and access it with 'trash:/' in konqueror |
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| 15:52.53 | dmarkey | cheers |
| 15:53.04 | logixoul | mardi: yeah, but when do you empty it? etc. |
| 15:53.24 | mardi | logixoul: when i remember :p |
| 15:53.27 | logixoul | Gentle: hmm, it seems to make sense. |
| 15:53.36 | logixoul | mardi: kay. |
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| 15:54.17 | mardi | i have 200gb of space and use about 120 of it... so trash can get to be hundreds of files at time with no issue |
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| 15:56.52 | Gentle | logixoul: well, generally it makes sense to move unwanted stuff to the trashcan and then monthly clean up what you really don't need anymore, since you can get files back you accidently deleted, but I always tell myself I don't accidently delete files |
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| 15:58.15 | logixoul | aha yeah. |
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| 16:00.40 | Lanken | if you send /usr/ to the trash, you aren't as hosed as if you rm it. |
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| 16:04.55 | mardi | i once did a rm -f /home |
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| 16:06.21 | mardi | still had konsole tho, so i apt-getted kde |
| 16:06.37 | mardi | i was, and still am, a newb |
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| 16:10.01 | Lanken | mardi: didn't you lose all your config and data? |
| 16:10.29 | mardi | Lanken: yup, it was a fairly new install tho, so i didn't lose much |
| 16:12.32 | dmarkey | so whos excited about kde4 |
| 16:14.23 | mardi | yay dolphin! |
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| 16:17.08 | Hokinon | how do I shutdown an X/KDE session from another? |
| 16:17.37 | dmarkey | you could kill the pid of the x server |
| 16:17.45 | logixoul | no |
| 16:17.48 | logixoul | that's unsafe |
| 16:17.53 | logixoul | Hokinon: use dcop |
| 16:18.29 | Hokinon | that will leave this seeion active but kill the locked one? |
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| 16:19.06 | logixoul | yes, if you use it appropriately ;) |
| 16:19.29 | Hokinon | how appropriately should I use it? |
| 16:19.40 | logixoul | are you familiar with dcop? |
| 16:20.14 | Hokinon | no not at all :( |
| 16:20.58 | Hokinon | just looking at man dcop |
| 16:21.53 | logixoul | first do dcop --list-sessions |
| 16:22.13 | logixoul | first do dcop --user Hokinon --list-sessions |
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| 16:25.11 | Schuenemann | Is it possible to convert a .psd to .html using Krita? |
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| 16:25.13 | logixoul | Schuenemann: what information is present in .psd (other than the actual image) that you want to move into the .html? Layers maybe? |
| 16:25.25 | logixoul | Hokinon: ok, so did you see the session you wanna close in the list? |
| 16:25.37 | Schuenemann | images and other details, like border size, etc |
| 16:26.22 | Hokinon | yup |
| 16:26.40 | AlexElliott | Hand-coded pages ftw |
| 16:27.01 | Schuenemann | AlexElliott, sorry? |
| 16:27.14 | Schuenemann | photoshop or illustrator do that |
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| 16:27.47 | AlexElliott | Yeah, and I don't like that they do personally :p. |
| 16:27.57 | logixoul | saves time. |
| 16:28.12 | Schuenemann | AlexElliott, I will hand code |
| 16:28.18 | Schuenemann | I don't like tables and stuff |
| 16:28.27 | Schuenemann | but I need those details as I just have that .psd |
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| 16:28.48 | logixoul | Hokinon: I think you need to do this: `dcop --user problematicUser --session problematicSession ksmserver default logout` |
| 16:28.52 | AlexElliott | Severely reduced quality though, in my experience it's rare to get any output which works well in multiple browsers, or even one |
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| 16:29.35 | AlexElliott | Anyways, it's off-topic, back to the kde chat :) |
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| 16:29.41 | Schuenemann | AlexElliott, pretend I have a non-w3c home page and I want to make it w3c |
| 16:29.55 | Schuenemann | but I don't have a non-w3c, just that psd |
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| 16:30.01 | Schuenemann | I need to convert it |
| 16:30.05 | paoleela | Hi, I followed the threads about dolphin/konqueror. While me preferring konq I think if dolphin saves resources on a weak system. But using konq I share memory for all instances (filemanager+webbrowser). |
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| 16:30.48 | mardi | paoleela: i agree |
| 16:31.22 | paoleela | mardi: So having 2 different apps for file and www wouldn't save resources? |
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| 16:31.42 | Hokinon | logixoul get this error Not enough arguments (expected 0, got 0). |
| 16:31.44 | AlexElliott | Ah, I tend to just measure things while I'm slicing the layout. |
| 16:31.46 | logixoul | paoleela: there *exist* 2 different apps for file and www. |
| 16:31.50 | paoleela | mardi: Eventhough dolphin maybe is smaller then konq is,..I always have at least filemanager and a www session opened. |
| 16:32.03 | Schuenemann | AlexElliott, but the images within that .psd... I don't have them |
| 16:32.16 | mardi | paoleela: i was just going to say... depends on what's open when |
| 16:32.19 | logixoul | paoleela: dolphin and kafilah |
| 16:32.21 | paoleela | logixoul: But having konq for both it can share one resource for all instances. |
| 16:32.44 | AlexElliott | Schuenemann, not sure I get you. You can surely cut them out... |
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| 16:33.04 | paoleela | So my thoughts are: konq vs. konq+dolphin |
| 16:33.12 | mardi | i prefer konqueror, and i run P3 700 with 256mb of ram |
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| 16:33.41 | logixoul | paoleela: yet Konq is a bit heavier than just dolphin if all you need is filemanagement. |
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| 16:33.48 | paoleela | Ok, quite same system here, but ppc. |
| 16:33.50 | mardi | well, i guess my mind is made up already, considering i've yet to use dolphin... |
| 16:34.53 | mardi | i use kde because of konqueror and kontact |
| 16:35.03 | paoleela | and konsole |
| 16:35.16 | paoleela | I can't live with xterm eterm aterm. |
| 16:35.41 | logixoul | I use KDE because of the consistency. None of the apps are really killer but the integration does it for me. |
| 16:35.49 | paoleela | Short time I tested fluxbox but then I used konq and konsole there, weird, and I returned. |
| 16:36.32 | logixoul | Hokinon: can I see your exact command line? |
| 16:36.46 | paoleela | I just can't leave evolution so far (thats a killer app concerning compile time on gentoo). But last seen kontakt, I maybe would switch there in near future. |
| 16:37.02 | AlexElliott | I would need KDE there even if I was running something else. I love amarok/kate |
| 16:37.06 | Hokinon | logixoul Darkstar:/home/john # dcop --user andrew --session .DCOPserver_Darkstar__1 ksmserver default logout |
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| 16:38.00 | Mohjive | is there some way one can debug tries to add mime types? |
| 16:38.17 | logixoul | Mohjive: strace/ltrace I guess. |
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| 16:38.41 | Mohjive | logixoul: how do you mean? |
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| 16:39.09 | logixoul | not sure, I only used it once. like run strace on a kcontrol process to see where it writes to. |
| 16:39.37 | Mohjive | ah, that's what you mean |
| 16:39.53 | Mohjive | I have a desktop file that I added to share/mimelnk, but KDE seems to ignore this |
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| 16:40.27 | paoleela | One other issue, I have to "complain", I also read in somebody's blog: Why do all the KApps switch to names like dolphin, okular, ligature, instead of Konqueror, KPdf, KViewShell? |
| 16:40.42 | snook353 | monodevelop says its for gnome. is there something for kde? |
| 16:40.46 | Mohjive | the strange thing is I had it working just recently, but I don't know what I did to break it |
| 16:41.03 | logixoul | paoleela: because the contemporary style/taste of KDE devs evolves/changes... just like everyone else in culture. |
| 16:41.15 | rdale | no kdevelop 4 will have good mono support i hope though |
| 16:41.22 | paoleela | Whats wrong with app names sounding like C++ classes. K for kde, Q for Qt, G for Gtk. |
| 16:41.41 | logixoul | paoleela: the K thing was fun at first, then came stuff like Phonon and it became hip to use natural sounding names. |
| 16:41.43 | paoleela | In the mass of applications it will just hard to know which one is Gtk and which is Qt. |
| 16:41.45 | Sho_ | paoleela: Konqueror remains, though ... Dolphin is not Konq renamed |
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| 16:42.37 | Sho_ | and I think "Ligature" is a damn great name myself ... too bad the app isn't overly interesting |
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| 16:42.37 | paoleela | Often I forget app names, having the toolkit name convention was fine. |
| 16:42.48 | mardi | plus they are running out of names where the first letter can be replaced with a K |
| 16:42.57 | Mohjive | I have to agree with paoleela, with K/Q or G as prefix it is easy to know what toolkit that's needed |
| 16:43.11 | logixoul | if you want a KDE app, go to kde-apps.org. if you want a gnome app, go to gnome-apps.org. if you find an app at a random site, it will surely have the DE it's built on somewhere visible. |
| 16:43.16 | Sho_ | paoleela: I'd say there's a feeling that we're past the time where we really needed the K convention to tell people what apps would reliably work on their desktop and entering a new era where we can afford to have the app names be more brands of their own |
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| 16:43.55 | paoleela | For displaying PDF there is no hip name needed. Just KPdf for the Kde variant, xpdf for the X (and maybe qpdf or gpdf) |
| 16:44.03 | Sho_ | paoleela: The technology is better now, the interoperability between DEs has improved thanks to freedesktop.org, etc. |
| 16:44.29 | logixoul | paoleela: only Okular and Ligature support a lot more than PDF. |
| 16:44.30 | Sho_ | paoleela: Only techies really care about toolkits :) |
| 16:44.37 | Sho_ | and see logixoul, yeah |
| 16:44.44 | logixoul | paoleela: btw, Okular is K-ified, as the normal spelling is Ocular ;) |
| 16:44.47 | paoleela | True, but it will always matter what toolkit its based on. ..even for having this consistency over the K desktop. |
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| 16:45.35 | logixoul | KLigature or KDocViewer would be terribly dull... |
| 16:45.36 | paoleela | One can see it mostly comes from Qt style class names, but ok, having this scheme saves misunderstandings. |
| 16:45.53 | paoleela | No, it wouldnt |
| 16:45.59 | logixoul | well, for me anyway. |
| 16:46.05 | Sho_ | for me too |
| 16:46.07 | mardi | never saw a Karnage app tho |
| 16:46.30 | Sho_ | mardi: And trash:/ never got a krap:/ alias |
| 16:46.40 | mardi | Sho_: har! |
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| 16:46.50 | logixoul | recyKle_bin:/ |
| 16:47.02 | paoleela | Also in former times I was irritated if apps like licq don't sound qicq :) |
| 16:47.06 | Sho_ | Thank god they didn't go for "Likature" though *cringes* |
| 16:47.28 | logixoul | just reading this name hurt my eyes >_< |
| 16:47.45 | Alethes | akregator did it *shudder* |
| 16:47.54 | Mohjive | is there any requrement for the mime type desktop file name? |
| 16:48.07 | Alethes | the s/g/k doesn't work |
| 16:48.12 | logixoul | akregator is good... likature sounds like leaking furniture |
| 16:48.29 | Mohjive | should it have the exact same name and path as the mime it's defining or could it be named anything? |
| 16:48.30 | Sho_ | heh |
| 16:48.36 | Alethes | ack a gator :P |
| 16:49.03 | paoleela | Thanks to my portage packet system that sorts apps under kde-misc/ kde-base/ Don't know under apt,yum maybe nobody knows if it's a Gnome or KDE app. |
| 16:49.35 | Sho_ | paoleela: In fact, apt/Debian does have a tag system and KDE applications have a KDE tag |
| 16:49.46 | paoleela | ok. |
| 16:50.02 | Sho_ | Okular would have a PDF tag and a KDE tag and some others, for example |
| 16:51.55 | logixoul | same with suse patterns. |
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| 16:55.38 | atidem | hi! |
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| 16:56.29 | gemidjy_ | anyone has idea on how to make Meebo account withing Kopete ? |
| 16:56.43 | gemidjy_ | aren't Meebo accounts actually jabber ? |
| 16:57.28 | Sho_ | Meebo is an IM client that can do Jabber - that doesn't mean you can greate an account with them via the Jabber standard, though |
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| 16:57.43 | Sho_ | it might, it might not |
| 16:58.02 | Hokinon | oh well gonna reboot only way I can see |
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| 17:08.02 | Kasyx | Hello all. Is there anyway to autohide the Menu bar at the top? (Like OS X) |
| 17:08.24 | logixoul | No, sorry. |
| 17:08.36 | Kasyx | Aww. Thanks. |
| 17:08.43 | logixoul | np |
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| 17:12.25 | logixoul | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-usability&m=114842047208346&w=2 <-- awesome |
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| 17:33.49 | zee | help: new to SABAYON. INSTALLED TODAY !. the live cd ran well, installed .. but can't access beryl window manager ? |
| 17:34.06 | pinotree | zee: #sabayon please |
| 17:34.14 | zee | ? |
| 17:34.26 | pinotree | go to that channel please |
| 17:34.38 | zee | oh ohk |
| 17:34.46 | pinotree | we do not offer support for sabayon, neiher beryl |
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| 17:34.53 | pinotree | *neither |
| 17:34.56 | zee | kk |
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| 17:50.18 | sabayon-fanboi | <3 sabayon |
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| 17:56.40 | SSJ_GZ | troy-uni: Thanks for the new Road to KDE 4 : I really missed them :) |
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| 18:07.43 | Solifugus | How does kget work? I just selected it to download something from konqueror.. but i don't see anything happening.. |
| 18:07.48 | BlendedSheep | Hmm, does KDE use freetype to render fonts? |
| 18:08.17 | thiago | yes |
| 18:08.35 | BlendedSheep | Even the subpixel hinting? |
| 18:08.39 | thiago | yes |
| 18:08.57 | BlendedSheep | that means it must be enabled in my freetype then, thanks :) |
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| 18:11.36 | logixoul | Solifugus: is the file in kget's list? |
| 18:12.06 | gansinho | please, there is a way to choose the size of the icons in the system tray |
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| 18:12.52 | thiago | gansinho: no, they are always the same size |
| 18:13.21 | logixoul | thiago: wrong, I have them at 64x64 ;) |
| 18:13.21 | logixoul | looking for the relevant config file now |
| 18:13.41 | gansinho | logixoul: tks! |
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| 18:15.03 | thiago | logixoul: systray? |
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| 18:15.17 | thiago | logixoul: I don't think so, since they're reparented windows of the application itself |
| 18:15.25 | thiago | they are not icons, so their size can't change |
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| 18:16.44 | logixoul | thiago: http://logixoul.ifastnet.com/screen3.png ;) |
| 18:16.51 | gansinho | thiago: system tray, not taskbar |
| 18:17.34 | thiago | your screenshot shows that it can't be done properly |
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| 18:17.57 | logixoul | thiago: yeah it gets pixelated in _one_ case |
| 18:18.03 | thiago | take a look at kxkb's and that loudspeaker icon |
| 18:18.43 | thiago | the kxkb icon is occupying a small portion of its alloted space |
| 18:18.58 | thiago | systray's size isn't supposed to change |
| 18:19.18 | logixoul | thiago: essentially, when something's generating the icon on runtime (such as kmail overlaying the number of unread icons), then it gets pixelated. else it's fine :) |
| 18:19.22 | logixoul | well, it might not |
| 18:19.28 | logixoul | but I can't stand 22px icons :) |
| 18:19.47 | gansinho | I would like to make them small |
| 18:19.58 | logixoul | that works too |
| 18:20.03 | logixoul | but where was the damn option! |
| 18:20.09 | gansinho | =p |
| 18:20.10 | thiago | but that may also simply crop the icon |
| 18:20.16 | thiago | instead of making them smaller |
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| 18:20.26 | logixoul | iirc it scaled them, not really sure |
| 18:20.48 | gansinho | or a way to them be in two rows, like when you select huge size for the panel |
| 18:21.11 | logixoul | yeah you get that as a side effect of smaller icons |
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| 18:23.57 | logixoul | ah, here. gansinho, run the following: kwriteconfig --group "System Tray" --key systrayIconWidth 64 |
| 18:25.16 | logixoul | thiago: but we're talking about a bug with the scaling here, right? is there a reason systray icons are not supposed to be scaled? |
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| 18:25.57 | logixoul | gansinho: then you'll have to restart kicker by using the following: dcop kicker kicker restart |
| 18:26.27 | logixoul | gansinho: in the first command 64 is whatever width you want for your icons |
| 18:26.42 | gansinho | ops... I think 64 is too much... let's see |
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| 18:27.17 | gansinho | log |
| 18:27.22 | gansinho | logixoul: yeah!!! |
| 18:27.25 | logixoul | ;) |
| 18:27.26 | gansinho | just perfect! |
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| 18:28.13 | gansinho | they're a bit cropped but no problem, as long as they don't take a lot of kicker's space |
| 18:28.20 | thiago | logixoul: because they are *not* icons |
| 18:28.24 | thiago | logixoul: they are windows |
| 18:28.52 | thiago | so, we can't talk about icon sizes |
| 18:28.56 | logixoul | thiago: yep, I know. but I thought these windows can access the size allocated to them. |
| 18:29.00 | thiago | forget about that |
| 18:29.05 | logixoul | okay |
| 18:29.08 | thiago | however, they can access that size |
| 18:29.31 | thiago | and apparently some applications (probably using KSystemTray) are smart enough to use a larger icon to draw that window if enough space is available |
| 18:29.42 | logixoul | yep, that's what I'm talking about. |
| 18:29.51 | thiago | they are by no means required to |
| 18:29.53 | thiago | so, no bug |
| 18:30.28 | logixoul | ok. just out of curiosity, is there any app that uses its systray 'window' to display something other than an icon? |
| 18:30.44 | logixoul | because it sounds like it has the same functionality as a kicker applet |
| 18:31.46 | thiago | kicker applets don't work for non-KDE applications |
| 18:32.00 | thiago | but, yes, applets and systray do overlap in functionality |
| 18:32.06 | logixoul | I see. |
| 18:32.16 | thiago | anyways: akregator |
| 18:32.20 | thiago | it displays the unread count |
| 18:32.31 | logixoul | yeah. |
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| 18:34.06 | xyz123 | I have som problems getting beryl to autostart in kde... it seems to either collide with kwin or with kde's restore session manager any ideas? |
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| 18:34.23 | logixoul | yeah, everybody has these problems. |
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| 18:34.50 | xyz123 | logixoul, aah so there is no real solution then? |
| 18:34.56 | logixoul | there is |
| 18:34.57 | thiago | KDE's way of choosing the Window Manager is by setting the KDEWM variable to the executable before startkde is run |
| 18:35.01 | thiago | do that |
| 18:35.01 | logixoul | it's not really colliding with kwin. try adding a script that runs beryl and emerald into ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 18:35.20 | gansinho | logixoul: thanks! |
| 18:35.21 | gansinho | bb |
| 18:35.27 | logixoul | thiago: the openSUSE people don't recommend it tho, not sure why. |
| 18:35.30 | logixoul | apokryphos? |
| 18:35.40 | xyz123 | logixoul, i did that but no dice |
| 18:35.41 | benJIman | recommend what? |
| 18:35.44 | logixoul | thiago: and, it didn't work for me. |
| 18:35.55 | logixoul | benJIman: using beryl instead of kwin by setting KDEWM |
| 18:36.17 | benJIman | I used ~/.kde/Autostart myself |
| 18:36.27 | benJIman | because I wanted to be able to switch back and forth easily |
| 18:36.40 | xyz123 | how do i set KDEWM? |
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| 18:37.00 | logixoul | benJIman: me too. btw are you notified of "openSUSE" occurances in the channel or something? that reaction was quick :) |
| 18:37.24 | logixoul | xyz123: some script in ~/.kde/share/env should contain export KDEWM=beryl |
| 18:37.30 | benJIman | No just happened to be watching |
| 18:37.34 | logixoul | kay |
| 18:38.29 | xyz123 | logixoul, i tied to add the beryl.desktop to .kde/Autostart/ according to this http://technowizah.com/2007/02/debian-how-to-aiglx-beryl.html but it still caused some sort of collision |
| 18:39.27 | logixoul | xyz123: how did you know something was colliding? |
| 18:40.50 | xyz123 | The beryl-manager icon showed up and there the current window manager was set to kwin and when i tried to start $beryl i got the response: a window manager is alredy running... |
| 18:41.44 | logixoul | you should've ran it with a switch: beryl --replace |
| 18:42.09 | xyz123 | logixoul, maby but it was still colliding on startup |
| 18:42.11 | xyz123 | logixoul, also # grep -r "export KDEWM" showed zero results |
| 18:42.45 | logixoul | I know, the script I was talking about needs to be added in there by none other than yourself ;) |
| 18:43.20 | xyz123 | logixoul, aah :) |
| 18:43.39 | xyz123 | ill try it |
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| 18:44.03 | logixoul | if I were you, I'd ask in #debian for the recommended course of action anyway |
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| 18:46.05 | johnny69 | What group of util's is "Ksnapshot" a part of? I believe it is bundled with a few other things. I tried looking through repo's and cannot find a lone ksnapshot program. |
| 18:46.31 | logixoul | kdegraphics |
| 18:47.04 | johnny69 | logixoul: groovy! Thank you. |
| 18:47.07 | logixoul | np |
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| 18:49.17 | antik | kmail just made harakiri to my incoming mail directory with "disconnected imap" |
| 18:49.53 | antik | now I have to restore from backup couple of hundred messages |
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| 18:50.42 | Isotopp | is there some way to integrate encfs into konqueror? |
| 18:51.15 | Isotopp | as in "when i change into an encfs encrypted directory, the 'encfs ~/storage ~/dir' command is executed and I am prompted for a password" |
| 18:51.28 | Isotopp | and as in "after n seconds of inactivity, the dir is unmounted" |
| 18:51.38 | Isotopp | and as in "the password can be taken out of kwallet, if you want" |
| 18:51.51 | Isotopp | ? |
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| 19:28.53 | sabayonuser | hi all |
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| 19:29.54 | logixoul | how do I compile a KDE app that only comes with a Makefile.am file? i.e. no configure script or anything |
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| 19:30.17 | logixoul | I tried copying KDE's admin dir but dunno what to run from there |
| 19:30.22 | MinceR | run automake on it |
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| 19:30.28 | pinotree | what are you trying to compile? |
| 19:30.32 | pinotree | MinceR: no |
| 19:30.40 | thiago | logixoul: it must have a Makefile.cvs file |
| 19:30.43 | MinceR | what then? |
| 19:30.51 | logixoul | pinotree: kafilah, a kde browser. it's in playground. |
| 19:31.01 | logixoul | um, kdenonbeta |
| 19:31.17 | pinotree | svn co .../kdenonbeta -N |
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| 19:31.27 | logixoul | ah right, I keep forgetting that. |
| 19:31.29 | logixoul | thx. |
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| 19:31.32 | pinotree | cd kdenonbeta |
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| 19:31.41 | pinotree | svn co .../branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin |
| 19:31.45 | pinotree | svn up kafilah |
| 19:31.52 | pinotree | make -f makefile.cvs |
| 19:31.56 | pinotree | ./configure |
| 19:31.57 | pinotree | make |
| 19:32.01 | pinotree | su -c "make install" |
| 19:32.04 | pinotree | that's it |
| 19:32.16 | logixoul | thanks. |
| 19:32.19 | logixoul | is su -c like sudo? |
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| 19:32.36 | pinotree | MinceR: kde has a particular auto* chain, skipping it would ask for troubles |
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| 19:33.10 | pinotree | that's why simply running automake is pointless |
| 19:33.59 | MinceR | i see |
| 19:36.16 | Mohjive | how does one override default KDE mime types? |
| 19:36.33 | Mohjive | I want to define a subtype that matches the *.tar.bz2 glob |
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| 19:36.44 | Mohjive | but it's more specific |
| 19:37.02 | logixoul | Mohjive: kcontrol->kde components->file assocs->add |
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| 19:37.47 | Mohjive | logixoul: I already have the file type there |
| 19:38.06 | Mohjive | but files aren't showing as that particular file type |
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| 19:38.53 | logixoul | did you add your glob in the "Filename Patterns" list? |
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| 19:39.50 | Mohjive | logixoul: no, I manually created a desktop file |
| 19:40.06 | logixoul | well, did you add the glob in there? |
| 19:40.40 | Mohjive | yes |
| 19:40.58 | pinotree | can you paste it in a pastebin, please? |
| 19:43.10 | Mohjive | pinotree: http://pastebin.se/13206 |
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| 19:45.09 | pinotree | a) you miss Encoding=UTF-8 |
| 19:45.49 | pinotree | b) DefaultApp is dead |
| 19:45.49 | pinotree | c) where did you put that? |
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| 19:46.13 | Mohjive | a,b) fixed |
| 19:46.33 | DJTrey | is there a way to change the keyboard shortcut(ctrl tab) for switching desktops |
| 19:47.00 | pinotree | DJTrey: as usual, kde control center -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts |
| 19:47.06 | Mohjive | c) call it /usr/share/mimelnk/application |
| 19:47.18 | DJTrey | thanks pinotree =) |
| 19:47.20 | pinotree | did you run kbuildsycoca? |
| 19:47.26 | pinotree | Mohjive: ^ |
| 19:47.48 | Mohjive | pinotree: no, thought I've logged in and out (thought that would suffice) |
| 19:48.05 | pinotree | kde is not winblows.... |
| 19:48.12 | pinotree | although, try to run it |
| 19:49.19 | Mohjive | pinotree: nope, still says Bzip2-ed Tar archive |
| 19:49.32 | Mohjive | even if that is correct as well, I'd like to override that |
| 19:49.45 | Mohjive | somehow... |
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| 19:51.21 | joss193 | is it somehow possible to copy paste from error messages? |
| 19:51.24 | pinotree | Mohjive: try kfile yourfile |
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| 19:51.34 | joss193 | konqueror for instance or other app |
| 19:51.36 | logixoul | joss193: from message boxes? |
| 19:51.45 | pinotree | does it print your mimetype, or the tar-bz2 one? |
| 19:51.47 | joss193 | logixoul: indeed, i would think |
| 19:51.58 | logixoul | joss193: just try selecting the text with your mouse |
| 19:52.03 | pinotree | joss193: of course, why don't you try to select the text? |
| 19:52.24 | joss193 | logixoul: momento, actually i used firefox at the moment |
| 19:52.26 | Mohjive | pinotree: tar-bz2 plus something about Cannot determine metadata |
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| 19:52.41 | Mohjive | two rows in total |
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| 19:54.59 | borso | hello. I have problems with national characters. when I for instance save the conversation in gaim as a html file the national characters doesn't show. only some strange signs. the same thing happens with LAME the mp3 encoder. what can I do? |
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| 19:55.41 | pinotree | borso: ask in #gaim ?! |
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| 19:57.35 | Mohjive | pinotree: any more hints where to look? |
| 19:57.45 | pinotree | no, sorry |
| 19:58.20 | Mohjive | is it even possible to override mime types in KDE? |
| 19:58.27 | borso | pinotree: it's not a problem with gaim. it's just an example. as I said the same thing happens when encoding mp3 files. the national characters get screwed up |
| 19:59.02 | pinotree | "when encoding mp3 files" which app does the encoding job? |
| 19:59.13 | Mohjive | I'd like to think that longer globs would have precedence over shorter globs... |
| 19:59.36 | borso | pinotree: LAME |
| 19:59.49 | pinotree | borso: lame is not a kde application |
| 19:59.49 | borso | trougth kaudiocreator |
| 20:00.16 | pinotree | you should set up your environment properly |
| 20:00.19 | logixoul | does real transparency in konsole work for anyone? |
| 20:00.20 | pinotree | ##linux |
| 20:00.52 | Mohjive | logixoul: beryl? |
| 20:01.04 | logixoul | Mohjive: kwin, but I do have Composite enabled |
| 20:01.21 | logixoul | do I need to be running a compositing wm? |
| 20:01.28 | borso | that is the problem. the enviroment doesn't work with the national characters. how can I fix that? |
| 20:01.48 | pinotree | borso: please ask in a generic linux help channel, like ##linux |
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| 20:01.57 | logixoul | Mohjive: yeah, beryl works. thanks. |
| 20:02.07 | mrigns_ | logixoul: even with composite stuff it did not work for me with konsole |
| 20:02.09 | cheeseboy | anyone use superkaramba? |
| 20:02.18 | mrigns_ | it worked for gnome-terminal though |
| 20:02.24 | pinotree | ~ask |
| 20:02.28 | apt | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. |
| 20:03.15 | pinotree | cheeseboy: ^^ |
| 20:03.16 | mrigns_ | perhaps he not encounerting any issues but making a poll |
| 20:03.21 | mrigns_ | who knows |
| 20:03.50 | mrigns_ | cheeseboy: still there? just ask |
| 20:04.24 | logixoul | pinotree: btw you can use syntax like "apt: tell cheeseboy about ask" |
| 20:05.18 | mrigns_ | my telepathic skills tell me that the answer to cheeseboy's problem is.... |
| 20:05.22 | mrigns_ | 43! |
| 20:05.26 | cheeseboy | how do i have it automaticslly start an applet when i start it? |
| 20:06.11 | mrigns_ | afaik it should by default if superkarama is loaded |
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| 20:06.52 | kdepepo | hi |
| 20:07.24 | johnny69 | Is there any way to get "Konversation - irc client" to tile the channel windows? Is that even possible? |
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| 20:07.54 | mrigns | Johnny69: nope, dont think so |
| 20:08.00 | kdepepo | :) |
| 20:08.01 | cheeseboy | srry my system froze |
| 20:08.07 | kdestefan | mrigns: no, it's not possible currently. |
| 20:08.16 | kdestefan | kdepepo: ^ |
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| 20:08.37 | Johnny69 | cheeseboy: Check out the autostart directory for Kde |
| 20:08.46 | mrigns | kdestefan: why are u telling ME that? its just the same what i said to Johnny69 |
| 20:08.59 | Johnny69 | heh |
| 20:09.03 | cheeseboy | i know how to auto start it |
| 20:09.04 | kdestefan | mrigns: I know, I meant to say it to kdepepo. |
| 20:09.12 | kdestefan | kdepepo: if you really need that, you can use Kopete and tile the separate windows. |
| 20:09.19 | cheeseboy | just how to have it auto start a theme |
| 20:09.28 | Johnny69 | mrigns: He just wanted to make sure everyone was CLEAR on that. :) |
| 20:09.40 | mrigns | lol kdestefan |
| 20:09.50 | kdepepo | kdestefan, you are seriously mixing up nicks here :) |
| 20:10.07 | kdestefan | doesn't happen all that often, honest :) |
| 20:10.41 | kdestefan | ooooh |
| 20:10.58 | kdestefan | it was *johnny* who asked first, wasn't it :) |
| 20:11.03 | mrigns | yap |
| 20:11.06 | kdestefan | haha |
| 20:11.08 | cheeseboy | anyone know? |
| 20:11.10 | kdepepo | bingo |
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| 20:14.44 | kdestefan | cheeseboy: that's exactly how it works here |
| 20:14.54 | kdepepo | fontconfig is so cool... you can set up different font families for different font sizes all using the same font name "sans" |
| 20:15.23 | kdepepo | too bad qt4 does not respect its settings |
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| 20:16.33 | Solifugus | To see if my download has worked or is working, how do you get to kget? alt-f2 kget or kget off the menu does nothing.. and running kget from the konsole says kget is already running... so where the heck is it? |
| 20:16.42 | Solifugus | Isn't kde supposed to be graphical? |
| 20:16.45 | Johnny69 | I'd just be happy if I could get my damn monitor/vid' card to display more than 1280x1024. Speaking of which, do we have ANY kde app that will allow control over the resolution? I'm using suse and yast/sax did nothing. I've edited the X by hand and it did nothing. I cannot get it to budge one direction or the other from 1280x1024. :( |
| 20:17.22 | kdestefan | Solifugus: in the systray |
| 20:17.36 | kdestefan | Solifugus: it's a phat blue arrow thing |
| 20:17.38 | cheeseboy | does kde have a problem with beryl id it judt my pc? |
| 20:17.43 | cheeseboy | just* |
| 20:18.02 | kdestefan | beryl id? |
| 20:18.20 | cheeseboy | id? |
| 20:18.28 | kdestefan | you said id. |
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| 20:18.46 | cheeseboy | oh typos |
| 20:18.47 | Alethes | he also said judt |
| 20:18.50 | calamari | hi |
| 20:18.50 | Solifugus | kdestefan: ok.. i see it.... |
| 20:18.53 | Alethes | s/d/s |
| 20:18.53 | Alethes | :) |
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| 20:19.02 | cheeseboy | or is it just* |
| 20:19.10 | calamari | I assume thjere is a file that stores the current screen reolution, refresh rate, etc.. which is it? |
| 20:19.14 | kdestefan | Alethes :) |
| 20:19.41 | cheeseboy | brb |
| 20:19.45 | kdestefan | cheeseboy: depends, what are the problems? were you the one who couldn't get beryl to autostart? |
| 20:19.55 | kdestefan | calamari: xorg.conf |
| 20:20.01 | kdestefan | calamari: for details ask in #xorg |
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| 20:20.23 | calamari | kdestefan: that stores my monitor ranges and possible resolutions |
| 20:20.33 | calamari | kdestefan: but not the current one |
| 20:20.45 | kdestefan | aah right |
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| 20:21.06 | kdestefan | dunno then |
| 20:21.08 | mrigns | you can get them shown in xrandr |
| 20:21.20 | mrigns | without any parameters |
| 20:21.45 | calamari | mrigns: thanks.. where is it getting its info from? |
| 20:23.21 | mrigns | x apparently |
| 20:23.22 | kdestefan | and where is x getting it from? |
| 20:23.22 | kdestefan | it's got to be persistently stored somewhere |
| 20:23.23 | mrigns | lol |
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| 20:23.48 | mrigns | try man xserver |
| 20:24.20 | mariux | there is a way of reading it from your monitor i think |
| 20:24.43 | Johnny69 | Ok, after 2 days of using it, I've come to the conclusion that whoever made the irc client, "Konversation"...is just simply one righteous dude. :) |
| 20:24.56 | mariux | how? |
| 20:25.12 | mrigns | Johnny69: it's Sho_ who made it with some other dud |
| 20:25.19 | Q-collective | Johnny69: yeah, Sho_ needs to get a statue |
| 20:25.20 | mariux | ahh, i thought your said ridiculous |
| 20:25.51 | XenThraL | konversation is awesome |
| 20:25.55 | mariux | yep |
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| 20:26.04 | XenThraL | so are most KDE apps |
| 20:26.13 | XenThraL | kudos to the lot of you |
| 20:26.27 | mrigns | enough ass crawling for today |
| 20:26.41 | Johnny69 | No! Righteous! Not ridiculous. :) |
| 20:26.45 | Johnny69 | heh |
| 20:26.48 | mrigns | ^^ |
| 20:26.54 | Johnny69 | "ass crawling". That's funny. |
| 20:27.09 | kdestefan | "ass crawling"? wtf. |
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| 20:27.53 | Alethes | like a dog with worms? |
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| 20:28.05 | logixoul | more like fleas |
| 20:28.14 | Johnny69 | Alethes: Just the tape kind. |
| 20:28.16 | mrigns | arse licking.... |
| 20:28.20 | Alethes | heh |
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| 20:28.23 | Alethes | *shudder* |
| 20:28.27 | mariux | i keep filing bugs for keyboard accessability in kde:P, with the two today it's probably way above 50% of my 40some bugreports |
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| 20:28.48 | Johnny69 | I run an animal rescue for orphaned cats and dogs...I'm so sick of fighting those little freakin parasites. |
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| 20:29.18 | mrigns | are u fighting the with kde tools? |
| 20:29.24 | mrigns | *them |
| 20:29.56 | logixoul | Johnny69: I read somewhere ultrasonics made parasites drop off the fur |
| 20:30.08 | logixoul | not really sure |
| 20:30.10 | sf4256456456 | what you do you think is the best channel to join the help me getting kde4 apps to run on windows? |
| 20:30.21 | logixoul | sf4256456456: #kde4-devel |
| 20:30.33 | sf4256456456 | i'm following this http://www.kdelibs.com/wiki/index.php/Building_KDElibs_4_using_GCC_and_MinGW_with_Qt_4.2 how-to |
| 20:30.36 | mariux | the yellow guy in the bottom right corner was smiling and all but after that blue speaker started playing music into his ear he's got this white sheet in front of his face |
| 20:30.57 | Johnny69 | I've read that to as well. Would probably stop the source as they get the damn worms from fleas. The cats we rescue are ALWAYS in the house. But the dogs have to be let out. And living in the south...it's a real bitch trying to combat the fleas here. |
| 20:31.00 | sf4256456456 | thx |
| 20:31.35 | logixoul | lol @ mariux |
| 20:31.44 | mariux | :P |
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| 20:34.19 | esteban | i have 2 soud cards, how can i use the secundary card with amarok |
| 20:35.02 | logixoul | ask in #amarok, thanks |
| 20:35.16 | mrigns | dunno, it's under sentence having 2 soundcards in my country |
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| 20:35.46 | mariux | what? |
| 20:35.55 | Johnny69 | mrigns: What does, "under sentence" mean ? |
| 20:36.04 | mariux | illegal? |
| 20:36.07 | mrigns | wait i look at my dic |
| 20:36.14 | mrigns | yes illegal |
| 20:36.42 | Johnny69 | Why illegal ? |
| 20:36.57 | logixoul | Don't mind mrigns, he's living out his childhood troll dream. |
| 20:37.05 | kwame | Hi, what can be the cause for the kpanel to disapear and not come back? |
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| 20:37.32 | mrigns | crashing? |
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| 20:37.46 | logixoul | kwame: first, it's called kicker. kicker might not be running, check that via the following: dcop kicker |
| 20:37.51 | kwame | mrigns: yes, the computer crashed, and it was restarted |
| 20:38.09 | mrigns | alt+f2 kicker |
| 20:38.11 | kwame | logixoul: [root@jeff ~]# dcop kicker |
| 20:38.12 | kwame | ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! |
| 20:38.26 | logixoul | why are you running as root? |
| 20:38.39 | kwame | sorry |
| 20:38.48 | kwame | [jeff@jeff ~]$ dcop kicker |
| 20:38.50 | kwame | ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! |
| 20:38.53 | mrigns | lol |
| 20:38.58 | Sho_ | Johnny69: Glad you like it =) |
| 20:39.07 | kwame | it's not my workstattion, it's from a colegue here in the office |
| 20:39.07 | mrigns | kwame: try alt+f2 kicker |
| 20:39.16 | Johnny69 | logixoul: You would be surprised at the number of people that do. |
| 20:39.16 | kwame | mrigns: and that will start it up? |
| 20:39.23 | mrigns | it should |
| 20:39.45 | Johnny69 | Sho_: Yep! Now just bring on the tiled channel windows and we'll build you a shrine! |
| 20:40.06 | Sho_ | hehe |
| 20:40.34 | mrigns | +yakuake build into it |
| 20:40.37 | mariux | gn |
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| 20:41.37 | Johnny69 | Sho_: Actually, in all seriousness...is that at all being planned? |
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| 20:41.52 | mrigns | i will get caught, talking to people using 2 sound cards |
| 20:41.56 | Sho_ | Johnny69: To be honest, not right now - we'll do detachable tabs first as far as MDI goes |
| 20:42.06 | mrigns | i will be put into jail for the rest of my life |
| 20:43.19 | mrigns | Johnny69: if u got 2 soundcards in 1 pc the goverment will put u in jail in my country |
| 20:43.34 | Johnny69 | For the rest of your life? |
| 20:43.38 | Kyral | hmm |
| 20:43.41 | mrigns | 20 years + |
| 20:43.51 | Kyral | ah well...its a crude thing... |
| 20:44.11 | mrigns | ya |
| 20:44.16 | Johnny69 | Where the hell do you live? The Mars communist colony? |
| 20:44.34 | mrigns | in germany |
| 20:44.54 | Kyral | Well, I'd be in jail |
| 20:45.06 | Kyral | I installed a sound card because my onboard sound is **** |
| 20:45.31 | logixoul | Kyral: IIRC it loads the file into RAM first so it won't notice a thing. |
| 20:45.43 | Kyral | logixoul: excellent :P |
| 20:45.53 | logixoul | sure |
| 20:45.55 | Kyral | And the rm sweep after would kill the files :D |
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| 20:46.18 | Kyral | Yea for text files having a huge compression factor :D |
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| 20:49.57 | mrigns | name 3 kde apps without a k in it. fast! |
| 20:50.03 | thiago | Dolphin, Quanta, |
| 20:50.10 | Kyral | Codiene |
| 20:50.16 | [GALAXY] | konqueror, knoodle, kopete |
| 20:50.37 | [GALAXY] | for me the K's in the name are important.. |
| 20:50.50 | [GALAXY] | i can quickly place them to the KDE category. |
| 20:50.50 | mrigns | [GALAXY]: you rocked my milky way |
| 20:50.52 | Kyral | Gwenview |
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| 20:51.17 | Kyral | I personally don't care what the app is called as long as it WORKS :D |
| 20:52.24 | Kyral | KDevelop FTW |
| 20:53.36 | [GALAXY] | kword, koffice, krita... all markant names.. |
| 20:53.47 | [GALAXY] | easily to distinguish and easily placed towards kde. |
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| 20:55.27 | MinceR | offike |
| 20:55.44 | [GALAXY] | klinux and bsk |
| 20:55.48 | [GALAXY] | karwin |
| 20:55.55 | MinceR | linuks |
| 20:56.13 | kdepepo | windows kista |
| 20:56.27 | [GALAXY] | kamiga |
| 20:57.00 | Johnny69 | Someone awhile back mentioned that they somehow got Linux to run on some adult "toy" and named it, "Kvibrix". WHo know... |
| 20:57.42 | Johnny69 | err knows |
| 20:57.44 | logixoul | heh |
| 20:57.54 | kdepepo | galaxy, you still involved in amiga |
| 20:58.00 | Johnny69 | Or was that named, "DilDix" ? |
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| 21:03.29 | MinceR | amika |
| 21:03.43 | logixoul | minker |
| 21:03.52 | MinceR | logiksoul |
| 21:04.07 | logixoul | ...which ironically makes more sense ;) |
| 21:04.11 | MinceR | indeed |
| 21:05.22 | Aritheum | ah, better. |
| 21:05.28 | sabayonlive-2740 | I am not that familar with Sabayon and only slightly with Linux. can anyone tell me how to remove Sabayon from a drive |
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| 21:06.02 | thiago | go into #sabayon and ask there |
| 21:06.24 | Aritheum | sabayonlive-2740: please ask in #sabayon... and tell them to fix their distro so it doesn't open #kde by default. |
| 21:06.46 | weedar | Is it possible to start Desktop Sharing before a user has logged on so I can reboot a machine remotely without having to logon locally afterwards? |
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| 21:08.30 | mrigns | benJIman: yes, it does |
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| 21:26.05 | main2 | im trying to modify the default action taken for a XF86Mail (a got a key bound to this keysym), xev show that the binding is ok |
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| 21:27.12 | thiago | and? |
| 21:27.15 | main2 | so i went to the "input actions" part of kcontrol, and changed the command/url |
| 21:27.23 | main2 | for the 'launch mail' preset action |
| 21:27.33 | main2 | but when i press it, my command is not executed :S |
| 21:28.00 | main2 | (im using opensuse 10.2, im not about what exact kde version) |
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| 21:30.11 | main2 | *Received a CTCP VERSION from Kyral* |
| 21:30.15 | main2 | what is this about? |
| 21:30.28 | Kyral | Yah if you were running Konversation it would tell me which KDE version you ran :P |
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| 21:31.01 | Daskreech | It's pronounce ko-pit-ay? |
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| 21:31.09 | Daskreech | not ko-pete? |
| 21:31.15 | Kyral | lol |
| 21:31.29 | thiago | it's pronounced like in most Continental European languages |
| 21:31.36 | Aritheum | kawpetteh |
| 21:31.49 | Kyral | Ko-Pa-Tay :P |
| 21:31.57 | main2 | any idea about why my keysym->event doesnt work? |
| 21:32.17 | main2 | (im trying write a guide..... sorting out keyboard crap of this stupid laptop took me a day so far) |
| 21:33.03 | Sho_ | Kyral: Actually, Konversation's default version reply only includes the Konversation version |
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| 21:33.17 | Kyral | Sho_: Whoops...forgot I customized it... |
| 21:33.26 | Kyral | hehe I'm kinda zoned right now |
| 21:33.44 | thiago | /ʹkoːpɛte/ |
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| 21:34.54 | icwiener_ | http://kopete.kde.org/files/kopete_en.ogg |
| 21:34.59 | Aritheum | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.08 | kwame | Aritheum: que pedo? |
| 21:35.17 | kwame | whooops |
| 21:35.18 | kwame | ha! |
| 21:35.26 | main2 | http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=keysymtoeventpg3.png |
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| 21:35.53 | main2 | the keyboardshortcut is 'XF86Mail' > (when i press my mail button... the binding is right) |
| 21:35.53 | Aritheum | thiago: see? the audio confirms my version :) |
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| 21:36.07 | main2 | but somehow my script is never executed :/ |
| 21:36.19 | main2 | any ideas, im getting desperate :( |
| 21:37.29 | thiago | Aritheum: doesn't sound Duncan pronounces it with /ɛ/ |
| 21:37.32 | thiago | more like /e/ |
| 21:38.08 | Aritheum | hm, correct. so, /koʹpɛte/ |
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| 21:40.26 | main2 | do you have to reboot before "input actions" are being processed or something ? :s |
| 21:43.05 | main2 | ****************************************************** going insane here |
| 21:43.15 | main2 | ***** keyboard madness... reboot! |
| 21:44.10 | gemidjy_ | I am not sure if this is KDE or Kubuntu issue, but will try first here, when I use KSnapshot to make screenshot of a screen region, I get some nasty line through the diagonal of the region square, here: http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8823/shot1hr7.png |
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| 21:45.05 | icwiener_ | Is that the way of your mouse went? :D |
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| 21:46.12 | icwiener_ | I cannot confirm this here on Debian with KDE 3.5.6. |
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| 21:46.55 | gemidjy_ | icwiener_: yes, as the mouse goes |
| 21:47.04 | gemidjy_ | probably Kubuntu issue |
| 21:47.07 | Aritheum | gemidjy_: a shot in the dark, but try disabling kcontrol»appearance»launch feedback»busy cursor |
| 21:47.22 | gemidjy_ | Aritheum: not enabled at all |
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| 21:47.54 | Aritheum | do you use a nondefault cursor theme? |
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| 21:48.12 | fizzmahon | hey guys, i have a *.ktheme that i want to install. how do i go about doing so? theme manager does not recognize kthem extention |
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| 21:49.16 | sourcemaker | Do you know any good finance tool for kde ? |
| 21:49.17 | Aritheum | fizzmahon: where did you take it from? |
| 21:49.28 | peh | I have two KDE-related problems. First, Konsole doesn't seem to bother with /etc/profile. Somehow I don't have the same system variables in a Konsole-session, that I have in a virtual console. Any ideas? Thanks. |
| 21:49.31 | fizzmahon | Aritheum, kde-look |
| 21:49.43 | Aritheum | sourcemaker: probably kmymoney, though there's a simpler/better kde app too. I can't recall its name. |
| 21:49.57 | Aritheum | fizzmahon: link to specific theme? |
| 21:50.15 | fizzmahon | Aritheum, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Grey+Matrix?content=1529 |
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| 21:50.31 | Daskreech | sourcemaker: kmymoney |
| 21:50.33 | thiago | peh: that's not a Konsole or KDE question. It's a shell question. |
| 21:50.34 | gemidjy_ | Aritheum: sorry, yes non-default cursor theme |
| 21:50.35 | main2 | non of the "input actions" specified in kcontrol react on my system |
| 21:50.37 | main2 | none |
| 21:50.44 | thiago | peh: find out how your shell likes to be invoked so that it reads /etc/profile. |
| 21:50.51 | thiago | peh: then configure Konsole to run it like that. |
| 21:51.02 | main2 | im using openSUSE 10.2, any idea about how this can be? |
| 21:51.58 | Aritheum | main2: same distro here, but it works fine. perhaps you've checked the "Disable" checkbox for Launch Mail? |
| 21:52.09 | main2 | none of the actions work |
| 21:52.20 | main2 | even if i bind "ctrl+y" to kate.... |
| 21:52.30 | main2 | the preset Calc............ |
| 21:52.50 | Aritheum | try Global Settings»General Settings»uncheck |
| 21:53.14 | peh | thiago: ah! allright, thanks |
| 21:53.16 | main2 | it aint checked |
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| 21:54.08 | fizzmahon | sorry back |
| 21:54.35 | sourcemaker | are you using kmymoney? I am just playing around with gnucash... but I do not know which is better |
| 21:54.42 | main2 | Aritheum, do i need to have 'xkb' enabled to be able to use it? |
| 21:54.45 | Aritheum | sourcemaker: nope, never tried it |
| 21:54.48 | main2 | (its all default what i got here) |
| 21:54.49 | Aritheum | main2: I don't think so |
| 21:54.55 | peh | thiago: hm, well. I'm using zsh and I guess I should do "zstyle :compinstall filename '/etc/profile'" in .zshrc... although, I must say that this problem only arises in Konsole. never had this in urxvt or any other terminal, so I'm still baffled |
| 21:55.19 | Aritheum | fizzmahon: apparently this theme is packaged for the ancient KDE 3.0. that's the problem. |
| 21:55.33 | fizzmahon | Aritheum, so what must i look for when finding themes? |
| 21:55.42 | fizzmahon | Aritheum, i am on latest KDE |
| 21:55.45 | Aritheum | gemidjy_: try the default. |
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| 21:56.33 | Aritheum | fizzmahon: "Type" should say "Theme/Style for KDE 3.2+" |
| 21:56.42 | fizzmahon | Aritheum, thank you very much |
| 21:56.51 | Aritheum | np |
| 21:57.14 | Daskreech | sourcemaker: Gnucash is much more popular but I hear Kmymoney is much easier to understand |
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| 21:57.58 | peh | anyway, my second problem is *sort of* KDE-related. I get a permission error when trying to mount optical media through HAL (i.e. double-clicking on the medium's icon) |
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| 21:58.04 | peh | any ideas for a solution there? thanks. |
| 21:58.31 | Renze | peh: user is in all appropriate groups? |
| 21:58.53 | peh | Renze: afaik. should it need to be in hal or dbus groups? |
| 21:59.00 | Renze | no |
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| 21:59.16 | peh | Renze: allright.. well, it's in the optical group, and that should suffice. again, afaik |
| 21:59.28 | Renze | but groups like cdrom and plugdev, yes (groups vary by distro) |
| 21:59.35 | fizzmahon | anyone have an idea what the widget is on the bottom of this picture http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/153-1.jpg |
| 21:59.54 | mrigns | my master has awakened. |
| 21:59.55 | Aritheum | fizzmahon: ksmoothdock or kxdocker |
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| 22:00.02 | fizzmahon | Aritheum, thanks |
| 22:00.10 | Aritheum | np |
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| 22:00.34 | mrigns | ouch |
| 22:01.02 | peh | the exact error i get from Konqueror is "A security policy in place prevents this sender frmo sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")" |
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| 22:01.20 | peh | sans my typo :P |
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| 22:01.43 | sourcemaker | <Daskreech> ok thank you |
| 22:01.45 | Aritheum | peh: you can also ask in #hal |
| 22:01.54 | peh | Aritheum: allright, thanks |
| 22:02.12 | Aritheum | welcome |
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| 22:08.34 | joss193 | possible to define konquerors right click menu items? |
| 22:08.41 | joss193 | add tools there for instance |
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| 22:08.50 | logixoul | joss193: only the ones in the Actions submenu |
| 22:09.01 | Renze | joss193: google for "creating konqueror service menus" |
| 22:09.30 | icwiener_ | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
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| 22:10.15 | joss193 | yeah cool, dcop is our friend here |
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| 22:11.44 | fizzmahon | im installing themes, and i type "./configure" and it does its thing, but on "make" i get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." any ideas? |
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| 22:13.18 | mrigns | tried just making install? |
| 22:13.34 | mrigns | err make install |
| 22:13.53 | fizzmahon | yeah |
| 22:13.55 | fizzmahon | no good |
| 22:14.14 | fizzmahon | o |
| 22:14.16 | wolsni | fizzmahon: so is there a Makefile? do the instructions say to specify a non-default one? |
| 22:15.06 | fizzmahon | wolsni, instructions say do "./configure" then "make" then "make install" |
| 22:15.25 | fizzmahon | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
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| 22:17.08 | sourcemaker | which Linux distribution are you using... ? |
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| 22:18.31 | joss193 | wonder if kwin supports somhow that messagebox copying like windows does, unfortunately in firefox, this messagebox content copying does not work |
| 22:18.48 | DawnLight | oh no lag anymore - great! |
| 22:18.52 | logixoul | joss193: Firefox is not a KDE app. |
| 22:18.56 | joss193 | ctrl-c for all windows messagebozes, if highlighted |
| 22:19.02 | logixoul | joss193: please complain at #firefox |
| 22:19.13 | joss193 | logixoul: yeah, but konqueror , just got stuck |
| 22:19.21 | joss193 | logixoul: does not matter, kwin is |
| 22:19.22 | logixoul | stuck? |
| 22:19.32 | wolsni | joss193: kwin is not responsible for copy and paste |
| 22:19.34 | logixoul | kwin has nothing to do with it |
| 22:19.36 | wolsni | that's up to the application |
| 22:19.36 | lilltiger | joss193: can you mark the text? |
| 22:19.57 | joss193 | lilltiger: with konqueror correct, i can do this, but with gecko no |
| 22:20.17 | joss193 | lilltiger: konqueror suites, but it just you know, crashed |
| 22:20.23 | joss193 | :) |
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| 22:21.00 | lilltiger | joss193: ahh, cos if you can mark the text you can always use middle button to paste it, eaven if ctrl-c dosent work |
| 22:21.06 | joss193 | wolsni: what is then, though somehow window manager could support this thing as well |
| 22:21.21 | joss193 | lilltiger: this i do know |
| 22:21.22 | pinotree | joss193: nope, the window manager has _nothing_ to do with it |
| 22:21.26 | Renze | joss193: X is responsible for copy and paste |
| 22:21.38 | mrigns | my new house: http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg3261he3.jpg |
| 22:21.43 | wolsni | joss193: maybe you could use ksnapshot to take a screenshot of the message? |
| 22:22.09 | joss193 | wolsni: yeah indeed, but this does not to translate it |
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| 22:22.21 | joss193 | i need fonts |
| 22:22.23 | Renze | mrigns: dream on |
| 22:22.24 | lilltiger | view sorce and copy it |
| 22:22.36 | lilltiger | +u |
| 22:22.57 | DawnLight | i have a feature request for kmail and i'm currently reviewing their website and there's a "Request Feature" page, where it gives me the main developer's email and explains a payment/priority system. thing is, it's only a small feature - unlike the ones listed there (i think) and its probebly going to be written using an existing library so should i post it somewhere for some other developers that aren't requesting money? |
| 22:22.58 | joss193 | lilltiger:ah does not matter |
| 22:23.14 | joss193 | Renze: does x have an app, that could do this? |
| 22:23.24 | pinotree | DawnLight: as always, bugs.kde.org |
| 22:23.34 | Renze | joss193: no, it is up to each app to allow copy and paste or not... complain in #firefox |
| 22:23.36 | joss193 | Renze: copy content of app or window fonts to clipboard |
| 22:24.03 | joss193 | Renze: it is a bug , i saw the thread allready |
| 22:24.12 | wolsni | DawnLight: there's always bugs.kde.org |
| 22:24.20 | Renze | joss193: not our problem, we don't want to hear about firefox bugs |
| 22:24.23 | joss193 | Renze: i mean feature improvement is allready sent there, just queried |
| 22:24.42 | joss193 | Renze: indeed, in that case fix the konqueror;) |
| 22:24.47 | DawnLight | and there are developers lurking around there that may catch my feature? |
| 22:24.56 | Renze | joss193: fix what? I can't remember the last time konqueror crashed on me |
| 22:25.31 | joss193 | Renze: well crashed here..compability problems perhaps, well ok, does not matter much today |
| 22:26.03 | joss193 | Renze: Actually, i got the solution , and got the message, and understood it's content allready |
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| 22:28.30 | logixoul | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Some_Call_it_Concatenation.aspx <-- fun |
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| 22:29.54 | Renze | logixoul: wtf! |
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| 22:30.29 | peh | how do I change the trashcan icon? |
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| 22:31.03 | Renze | change your icon theme? |
| 22:31.03 | wolsni | peh: right click on it, choose properties, click on the big button with the current icon on it |
| 22:31.34 | peh | wolsni: hm, yea. but that only changes the icon of the current state (full or empty). how do I change both? |
| 22:32.03 | wolsni | um, put some stuff in your trash, change the full icon, then empty it and change the empty icon |
| 22:32.40 | Renze | what about brain science? |
| 22:33.14 | peh | wolsni: all good in theory, however the empty icon wont change, no matter what. :P |
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| 22:34.43 | wolsni | peh: open the .desktop file in a text editor and see what you can work out |
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| 22:35.12 | peh | wolsni: thanks |
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| 22:38.01 | XTrollX | hi ho |
| 22:38.12 | XTrollX | dernit@! |
| 22:39.40 | peh | and how do I set a download directory for Konqueror? |
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| 22:41.53 | wolsni | peh: run kget, set it as the download manager for konqueror |
| 22:42.17 | wolsni | you can even specify directories for different filetypes if you want |
| 22:42.40 | peh | wolsni: great, thanks |
| 22:43.41 | Ken69267 | should I recompile kde if I update qt on gentoo |
| 22:44.16 | pinotree | Ken69267: #gentoo or #gentoo-kde please |
| 22:44.24 | Ken69267 | mmk |
| 22:44.29 | Ken69267 | there's a gentoo-kde? |
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| 22:50.26 | DawnLight | can i subscribe to a bug in bugs.kde.org? |
| 22:50.35 | pinotree | sure |
| 22:50.41 | DawnLight | i can't see how |
| 22:50.49 | pinotree | add yourself into the CC list |
| 22:51.04 | DawnLight | oh that :) |
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| 22:51.19 | StevenR | hi. how do I make kde not bring up two terminals when I tap the combination that I've set up? it should only bring up one. |
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| 22:52.29 | DawnLight | now my email is on the excluding list... ? |
| 22:53.05 | pinotree | ? |
| 22:53.31 | pinotree | DawnLight: make your notifications are on, check in the preferences |
| 22:53.42 | pinotree | in teh account settings, i mean |
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| 22:57.37 | piztek | since updating the auto login has stopped working for kde, I've tried resetting it, but i think something in gnome is causing the problem. |
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| 23:00.32 | johnny69 | Looking at the fonts menu, for anti-aliasing it gives, "Enabled" or "System Settings". What is the difference? (Kde 3.5.x/Suse 10.1) Thank you. |
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| 23:03.00 | Ze_M | i build kdepim but kmobile wasnt build, i got this in config.log: checking if kmobile should be compiled result: no , any help? |
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| 23:32.18 | johnny69 | Looking at the fonts config menu and the anti-aliasing options, it shows, "Enabled" or "System Settings". What is the difference between the 2? (Kde 3.5.x/Suse 10.1) Thank you. |
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| 23:43.08 | Shaman | wow... trango atlas 5010 backhauls use Linux for their operating system... just noticed |
| 23:43.34 | piztek | since updating the auto login has stopped working for kde, I've tried resetting it, but i think something in gnome is causing the problem. |
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| 23:52.13 | Frogbarf | whenever I try to use kdeprintfax the recipiant sees raw postscript rather than the actual fax image. What might I be doing wrong? |
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