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| 00:29.49 | Francesco|Up | I want to change the behavior of ksnapshot |
| 00:30.43 | Francesco|Up | :) |
| 00:30.44 | Francesco|Up | ok |
| 00:31.19 | Francesco|Up | when I press the screen print key on the keyboard,ksnapshot shows directly with a box asking me to save or what |
| 00:31.24 | Francesco|Up | I just want that when : |
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| 00:31.43 | Francesco|Up | when I press the screen print key on the keyboard,ksnapshot keeps the shot in memory |
| 00:32.07 | Francesco|Up | it doesnt have to show up directly everytime I press the button |
| 00:32.31 | pinotree | it does not do that here |
| 00:32.42 | Francesco|Up | ? |
| 00:32.54 | Francesco|Up | how |
| 00:33.07 | pinotree | if i start ksnapshot, then the screen is captured and the main gui is shown |
| 00:33.29 | pinotree | but no filedialog asking for a filename pops up |
| 00:33.43 | Francesco|Up | yeah |
| 00:33.43 | Francesco|Up | this is what I mean |
| 00:33.50 | Francesco|Up | I dont want this behavior |
| 00:34.02 | Francesco|Up | I just want the system to store it in memory |
| 00:34.29 | Francesco|Up | just like in ... (well, if I say,they are gonna be angry after me ) |
| 00:34.35 | pinotree | keep the ksnapshot window open |
| 00:34.53 | Francesco|Up | ? |
| 00:35.33 | pinotree | you did the sceenshot you want, ksnapshot shows it but you don't want to save it? |
| 00:35.51 | pinotree | then just leave the window open |
| 00:36.23 | pinotree | util it's open, it keeps the last capture done |
| 00:36.35 | Francesco|Up | I dont want ksnapshot to show it to me |
| 00:37.00 | Francesco|Up | pinotree,can u allow me to say the sentence in its entirety |
| 00:37.23 | pinotree | sure |
| 00:37.34 | Jucato | Ctrl+PrintScreen? |
| 00:37.57 | Francesco|Up | ah,if I do this it wont show up ? |
| 00:38.19 | Jucato | that would be the equivalent of your Windows printscreen function |
| 00:38.38 | Francesco|Up | ahhhhhh ,thank you ;) ;) |
| 00:40.14 | Francesco|Up | damn,I need to rzboot to try it :(( , I am "obliged" to use Visio in windows... |
| 00:40.24 | Francesco|Up | I really need a virtual machine |
| 00:40.57 | Francesco|Up | the problem is that VirtualBox is a bit unclear to configure and get it work |
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| 00:43.19 | Francesco|Up | ok thanks jucato |
| 00:43.51 | Francesco|Up | take this gift : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftN2PDNsbXM :]] |
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| 01:28.08 | slyfox | Someone talk to me. I have installed fresh Kubuntu 6.10 and as it jsut isntalled, I went into the source list, added the latest KDE 3.5.6 and only then pressed the update and the full upgrade button. It did a huge update of everything, then I installed latest nvidia drivers and firefox and autofs skype. And only then I restarted. All worked well, but skype, gizmo and wengo would have problems with voice. I tried |
| 01:28.08 | slyfox | everything that I knew (I know very little I am a noob) and nothing worked. So I reintalled Kubuntu again now without the latest KDE and just did everything as I did efore but without ugrading to the latest KDE. Skype works well. Is there a bug in latest KDE I should report ? |
| 01:28.30 | XVampireX | Hey, crash on moving file from move to thing in right click, I'll get you the backtrace... |
| 01:28.32 | chemonz | kdebase 3.5.6 + hal + dbus..... |
| 01:28.41 | chemonz | alguém conseguiu compilar? |
| 01:29.02 | XVampireX | slyfox: What problem with voice? |
| 01:29.19 | Renze | slyfox: completely unrelated to kde, take it to #kubuntu |
| 01:29.37 | XVampireX | skyWhat problem with voice?! |
| 01:29.45 | XVampireX | slyfox: ^ |
| 01:30.27 | Renze | chemonz: inglés, por favor |
| 01:30.38 | chemonz | Renze, não sei falar ingles! rs |
| 01:30.47 | chemonz | Renze, onde tem canal de kde em ptBR ? |
| 01:30.55 | Renze | chemonz: you may as well speak to me in greek, I don't understand a word you are saying |
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| 01:31.16 | slyfox | XVampireX: problem is with cpu power management or ALSA. Whenever I would try to make a call, I would get this "W eee e ell lll cooommee too oo Sk y y yy ppp eee tesss tt t ca a alll" I would get choppy sound, same in Gizmo and in wengo I would get mickey mous tiny voice... |
| 01:31.21 | XVampireX | "Is there a channel for brazillian people" |
| 01:31.50 | XVampireX | slyfox: How about OSS? |
| 01:31.57 | slyfox | XVampireX: could that have been becsue once i jsut installed kubuntu, I first added latest KDE to the source list and did a huge upgrade of everything. |
| 01:32.03 | chemonz | XVampireX, where ? |
| 01:32.15 | Renze | slyfox: not KDE related... please take it to an appropriate channel |
| 01:32.19 | slyfox | XVampireX: whatever device I would set for sound would give me the same problem |
| 01:32.22 | XVampireX | chemonz: try #kde-br ? Don't know |
| 01:32.53 | XVampireX | slyfox: How are you installing it? Also, call test service sucks |
| 01:32.59 | XVampireX | So it doesn't matter |
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| 01:33.21 | slyfox | Renze: But it worked on my dual boot of Windows and Kubuntu, and then it did not work once I did a clean install of Kubuntu and updated to latest KDE. And now it works fine but without me installing latest KDE |
| 01:33.34 | XVampireX | but if you SEE CPU leaks (100% CPU usage) in something like ksysguard, then there is a problem |
| 01:33.51 | Renze | slyfox: still nothing to do with KDE, which is a desktop environment, not an operating system, and hence does not manage your sound devices |
| 01:33.58 | slyfox | XVampireX: what skype? I jsut downoaded the latest deb package from skype and isntalled. It is not about call test, whatever call had htsi probelm |
| 01:34.10 | XVampireX | skype 1.3 |
| 01:34.57 | slyfox | XVampireX: yes |
| 01:35.02 | XVampireX | slyfox: You tried with people too? |
| 01:35.28 | XVampireX | open up ksysguard or top in konsole and try to monitor what's going on |
| 01:35.43 | XVampireX | I'm using latest kde and it certainly doesn't have that problem |
| 01:35.43 | slyfox | XVampireX: yeah, whatever call I would make I would get this chippy sound in all 3 programs |
| 01:35.52 | XVampireX | (And kubuntu) |
| 01:35.54 | Renze | slyfox: plus none of the apps you mention problems with are KDE apps |
| 01:36.15 | XVampireX | Renze: Give him/her a break |
| 01:36.39 | slyfox | XVampireX: do you use skype too? |
| 01:36.43 | XVampireX | slyfox: Yes |
| 01:36.48 | slyfox | XVampireX: Do you have a laptop ? |
| 01:36.51 | XVampireX | No |
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| 01:37.16 | XVampireX | Renze: You want kde problem? Here you go |
| 01:37.20 | XVampireX | http://www.pastebin.ca/332524 |
| 01:37.48 | slyfox | XVampireX: than it would not relate to you, I isolated the probelm to the point where power control management would not give, or perhaps skype would not take enough cpu power to proccess the call, it would use only like 2% and not more |
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| 01:38.08 | XVampireX | So it uses LESS you say? |
| 01:38.13 | XVampireX | less = better |
| 01:38.19 | XVampireX | This is not the case here |
| 01:38.26 | slyfox | yeah |
| 01:38.33 | XVampireX | try in gizmo echo call |
| 01:39.23 | slyfox | XVampireX: same was in gizmo, now every works as I have reinstalled Kubuntu withou latest KDE |
| 01:39.40 | XVampireX | install latest KDE |
| 01:39.46 | slyfox | XVampireX: is latest kde worth upgrading to ? |
| 01:39.50 | XVampireX | Yes |
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| 01:40.15 | slyfox | XVampireX: ok, let me do it, I really hope I will not have to reintall Kubuntu again |
| 01:41.33 | slyfox | brb |
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| 01:41.49 | Renze | reinstall? how... microsoft |
| 01:42.08 | wolsni | yeah, it's too bad apt doesn't support downgrading packages |
| 01:42.12 | wolsni | oh wait |
| 01:42.36 | Jucato | wolsni: sudo apt-get install package=specific_version_number |
| 01:42.49 | Renze | Jucato: he was being sarcastic ;) |
| 01:42.57 | Jucato | sorry |
| 01:47.00 | slyfox | XVampireX: ok, I will do the updates now. Do I need to restart after I udpate ? |
| 01:48.21 | XVampireX | slyfox: restart X, yeah |
| 01:48.27 | slyfox | What is the command to udpate and upgraade? sudp apt-get update, apt-get upgrade? |
| 01:48.31 | slyfox | *sudo |
| 01:48.35 | XVampireX | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 01:48.45 | Renze | slyfox: #kubuntu (it is different for every distro, and kde is distro-agnostic) |
| 01:48.49 | XVampireX | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade |
| 01:49.30 | slyfox | XVampireX: waht does the -y stand for? |
| 01:49.36 | XVampireX | yes |
| 01:49.44 | XVampireX | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.46 | XVampireX | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.49 | XVampireX | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.52 | XVampireX | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.58 | Renze | rule #1 gets proven conclusively yet again... |
| 01:50.18 | XVampireX | Renze got me on ignore |
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| 01:52.36 | slyfox | XVampireX: ok, updating to latest KDE, lets see if it casuses skype problems |
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| 02:13.39 | Francesco|Up | jucato , thank you very much , it works now ;) |
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| 02:13.56 | Jucato | np :) |
| 02:14.02 | Francesco|Up | ;) |
| 02:14.23 | Francesco|Up | but I guess that I can customize it by compiling and changing it at my will |
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| 02:14.41 | Francesco|Up | I will compile later :) to have the bahavior directly with print screen |
| 02:16.59 | magyar | is there a way to make kmail display html messages properly, the problem is that images in the text are not being displayed. |
| 02:17.02 | magyar | ? |
| 02:17.21 | Renze | enable external references |
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| 02:20.37 | magyar | Re |
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| 02:20.47 | magyar | Renze: where is that? |
| 02:21.02 | tupa | hi everyone |
| 02:21.33 | tupa | i've crashed kicked app several times, where can i report this or check the bug list? |
| 02:21.47 | tupa | *kicker |
| 02:21.49 | Caster | 3.5.6? |
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| 02:21.59 | Renze | magyar: settings - |
| 02:22.01 | Renze | whoops |
| 02:22.13 | Renze | magyar: settings -> configure kmail, security page, near the top |
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| 02:22.44 | magyar | Renze: i have that checked |
| 02:22.52 | tupa | Caster: kicker version is 3.5.5 |
| 02:23.03 | Renze | magyar: images are attachments? |
| 02:23.03 | Caster | ah |
| 02:23.19 | Renze | magyar: it might be the way they are being attached by the sender's client |
| 02:23.33 | Renze | magyar: if it is outlook, it is non-standard |
| 02:24.36 | tupa | Caster: what should I do, I use debian distro (testing) so i don't have the latest packages |
| 02:24.46 | Caster | dunno |
| 02:24.51 | magyar | Renze: |
| 02:24.53 | magyar | X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 |
| 02:24.53 | magyar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.01 | Renze | magyar: well, there you go ;) |
| 02:25.02 | Caster | I asked because I crashed 3.5.6 today, and don't recall previous versions crashing :) |
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| 02:26.18 | magyar | Renze: it's almost unbelivable, a company like M$ is always sriving towards better sollution and inovation. |
| 02:26.29 | magyar | blahh, blahh, blahh blahh blahh |
| 02:26.35 | Renze | magyar: and they ignore industry standards and just come up with their own |
| 02:26.39 | magyar | striving |
| 02:27.02 | Francesco|Up | yeah,it is not good |
| 02:27.16 | Renze | MS don't want to interoperate... they want to dominate |
| 02:27.25 | Francesco|Up | with their own crap |
| 02:27.37 | Francesco|Up | at least if their crap was good... but it sucks |
| 02:27.38 | Caster | they want your soul! |
| 02:27.50 | Renze | too late... I sold my soul on eBay ;) |
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| 02:28.00 | Francesco|Up | (hihihiahaha) |
| 02:28.02 | Caster | your cellphone your wallet your time your ideas |
| 02:28.17 | Caster | your bankcard, your license, your thoughts, your fears |
| 02:28.18 | Caster | etc |
| 02:28.26 | Francesco|Up | :) |
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| 02:28.31 | Francesco|Up | NDAs |
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| 02:28.52 | Francesco|Up | agressively -applied patents |
| 02:29.03 | stoned | what is nda |
| 02:29.12 | Caster | you are free to do as we tell you |
| 02:29.15 | Renze | non-disclosure agreement |
| 02:29.18 | stoned | ah |
| 02:29.23 | Francesco|Up | partnership with big hw vendors - nda on the way for sure |
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| 02:29.35 | Francesco|Up | nvidia,ati,creative... |
| 02:29.36 | magyar | G*d forbid one may mention this on ##windows, they will burry you alive |
| 02:29.44 | Renze | let them try |
| 02:30.04 | Caster | is that channel for ms employees? |
| 02:30.17 | Francesco|Up | ? |
| 02:30.20 | Francesco|Up | #windows ? |
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| 02:30.23 | Renze | no, it is the channel for the Church of Gates |
| 02:30.31 | bkudria | anybody here use kile, the latex editor? |
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| 02:32.31 | Francesco|Up | and look this terrible nightmare http://www.billgatesforpresident.net/ , please konqueror,we will disturb your peace with this crappy website |
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| 02:33.33 | bkudria | gates for prez isn't such a bad idea, imho |
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| 02:33.51 | bkudria | he is a technical wizard, yet a smart philanthropist |
| 02:33.52 | Francesco|Up | :((((((((((((((((( |
| 02:34.00 | Renze | and a complete jerk |
| 02:34.12 | bkudria | as long as we balance his power with someone else, of course |
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| 02:34.17 | Francesco|Up | ohh ok I get it,bkuria is kidding :) |
| 02:34.18 | Renze | with questionable morals |
| 02:34.32 | Renze | and a complete lack of ethics |
| 02:34.34 | bkudria | and he shouldn't be allowed to make *any* technology-related decisions |
| 02:34.51 | bkudria | well, remember, bill gates != microsoft |
| 02:34.51 | Francesco|Up | and u know he will do ,so ... |
| 02:35.00 | bkudria | all healthy companies are psychopathic |
| 02:35.05 | Francesco|Up | lol |
| 02:35.09 | Francesco|Up | bill gates is ms |
| 02:35.12 | Francesco|Up | evil |
| 02:35.13 | Renze | microsoft was psychopathic when it was still small |
| 02:35.27 | stoned | hey |
| 02:35.29 | bkudria | i do, however, think that there are way more qualified people for president |
| 02:35.29 | stoned | what' |
| 02:35.35 | stoned | I LOVE PSYCHOPATHIC! |
| 02:35.41 | Francesco|Up | they are still ultra-agressive against competition ,ballm and bill the monsters |
| 02:35.45 | stoned | Psychopathic Records |
| 02:35.46 | bkudria | i'd vote for bill only if the only other choice was bush |
| 02:35.47 | stoned | ICP |
| 02:35.49 | stoned | Twizted |
| 02:35.51 | stoned | !! |
| 02:36.45 | Renze | they're not sticking with georgy? |
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| 02:37.01 | troy | they can't -- two consequetive term provision in constitution |
| 02:37.09 | Francesco|Up | I think RMS would do a good president :) |
| 02:37.11 | Renze | ah |
| 02:37.27 | troy | hahah, "You must call it GNU/USA, fuckers." |
| 02:37.33 | Francesco|Up | GNUSA :) |
| 02:37.55 | Renze | it'll probably be Cheney/Bush :D |
| 02:38.07 | troy | role reversal? maybe |
| 02:38.12 | slyfox | Ok, latest KDE and skype works |
| 02:38.27 | slyfox | SO confused to what have casue the problem |
| 02:38.40 | stoned | role play |
| 02:38.48 | stoned | skype is junk |
| 02:38.48 | Francesco|Up | GNUSA , open source government decisions and FBI secret files exposed to the public :) ... oh and open source beers and open source motels :) |
| 02:38.50 | Francesco|Up | ;) |
| 02:39.05 | stoned | I want open source sex |
| 02:39.09 | stoned | and open source chics |
| 02:39.18 | Renze | stoned: they had that back in the '60s |
| 02:39.20 | stoned | an (d)open source budds |
| 02:39.21 | Francesco|Up | lol |
| 02:39.22 | stoned | to smoke |
| 02:39.27 | slyfox | Does cifs depand on smbfs? It looks like I could not mount samba partitions via cifs untill I installed smbfs ??? |
| 02:39.29 | stoned | open |
| 02:39.33 | Francesco|Up | renze : yeaaahhh |
| 02:39.41 | Francesco|Up | damn I was too young .. |
| 02:39.57 | slyfox | sorry, worng channel |
| 02:40.07 | Francesco|Up | ohh,damnI wasnt even born ;) |
| 02:40.16 | Renze | stoned: weren't you quitting? |
| 02:40.27 | stoned | quitting what? |
| 02:40.31 | troy | is gmail broken everywhere? |
| 02:40.34 | Renze | sm0king |
| 02:40.43 | stoned | are you out of your noggin |
| 02:40.48 | stoned | why the fuck would I quit smoking? |
| 02:40.49 | Renze | stoned: that's what you said yesterday |
| 02:40.55 | stoned | no I didn't |
| 02:41.02 | stoned | you're seeing things! |
| 02:41.04 | Renze | want me to cut and paste from my logs? |
| 02:41.12 | stoned | logs can be forged |
| 02:41.17 | stoned | and shared among people |
| 02:41.19 | Jucato | troy: web interface seems to be slow, but I can download from kmail |
| 02:41.20 | Renze | not everybody's |
| 02:41.22 | stoned | you are hallucinating |
| 02:41.44 | stoned | I think you woke up in an alternate reality where stoned said he would quit smoking |
| 02:42.05 | Renze | stoned: you said something about moving and needing to find a job, and being clean when they test you |
| 02:42.33 | stoned | nah |
| 02:42.40 | Francesco|Up | lol |
| 02:42.41 | stoned | I think you just immagined stuff |
| 02:42.43 | troy | Jucato: thanks - web interface won't give me login prompt - just wondering what's up |
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| 02:42.59 | stoned | Renze: you trying to mess with me |
| 02:42.59 | stoned | ? |
| 02:43.00 | stoned | cuz I mess with YOU |
| 02:43.03 | Renze | stoned: no, I don't need to mess with you ;) |
| 02:43.06 | stoned | lol |
| 02:43.11 | stoned | why cuz I'm already messed up |
| 02:43.13 | Renze | you're already messed up |
| 02:43.16 | stoned | man I resent that |
| 02:43.16 | stoned | ! |
| 02:43.29 | stoned | you're right |
| 02:43.33 | stoned | I was trying to mess wid ya |
| 02:43.39 | stoned | I do have to stop though |
| 02:43.45 | stoned | gotta pass UA |
| 02:43.49 | stoned | for jobs n stuff |
| 02:43.57 | stoned | plus I think I smoked enough, college is soon gonna be over |
| 02:44.01 | stoned | I really should quit |
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| 02:46.56 | Francesco|Up | how can one say "I owe my career to this man and his dreams " referring to bill :|| ? non-sense to me :) |
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| 02:53.11 | bkudria | does anyone know how to include a custom .sty file with konqueror? |
| 02:53.15 | bkudria | err, with kile? |
| 02:53.40 | qupada | presumably you need the matching .pig file :D |
| 02:54.29 | Renze | um, ha, or something ;) |
| 02:55.59 | bkudria | qupada: .pig file? i don't have one, this is a custom .sty with all my common commands |
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| 02:56.24 | qupada | bkudria: it was a joke... pig, sty |
| 02:56.36 | bkudria | qupada: oh. |
| 02:56.42 | bkudria | you are all terrible people |
| 02:56.56 | Renze | yep, we sure are |
| 02:57.19 | qupada | don't take it personally. i just felt it was a better answer than "no, i don't know" |
| 02:58.07 | bkudria | have you ever used latex? |
| 02:58.21 | Renze | a little, but not via kile |
| 02:59.00 | bkudria | oh. well, i think kile rocks. |
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| 02:59.12 | bkudria | i use it to write up all my homework, lab reports, etc |
| 02:59.23 | Renze | I used to do the same with lyx |
| 02:59.57 | devnull | is there a command to adjust volume ? |
| 03:00.02 | Renze | devnull: kmix |
| 03:00.21 | qupada | latex is just the kind of thing i've never put aside the time to learn |
| 03:00.44 | qupada | like so many other things though, it's just a case of copying pieces of other people's code until you can work out how to make your own |
| 03:00.51 | bkudria | i didn't really learn it either, i'm picking it up as i go |
| 03:00.58 | bkudria | right, exactly |
| 03:01.12 | devnull | Renze: I mean more command line like: im trying to get my volume keys working |
| 03:01.27 | Renze | devnull: and still KDE related? |
| 03:01.33 | qupada | that's how i learned to write shellscript (and by extension ebuilds) |
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| 03:03.12 | devnull | nvm i got it. |
| 03:03.15 | qupada | devnull: i wrote custom shellscripts to run my keyboard volume controls, using shellscript math and alsa's command-line mixer, amixer (not to be confused with alsamixer) |
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| 03:04.19 | devnull | Question. How do I get kmix to run on kde start? |
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| 03:06.06 | Jucato | ~autostart |
| 03:06.10 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 03:06.18 | Jucato | devnull: ^^^ |
| 03:06.40 | devnull | ty |
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| 03:09.13 | devnull | Jucato: Will it start in the tray? or will it open completely? |
| 03:09.21 | Jucato | afaik, in the tray |
| 03:09.34 | devnull | k cool |
| 03:09.36 | devnull | ty alot |
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| 03:56.57 | XVampireX | slyfox: So, how did it go? |
| 03:58.20 | slyfox | XVampireX: all good so far. |
| 03:58.29 | slyfox | I really wonder what have caused the error |
| 03:58.44 | XVampireX | shazaam |
| 03:58.47 | slyfox | :-) |
| 03:58.48 | XVampireX | :P |
| 03:59.17 | XVampireX | Wanna tell me if you can reproduce a bug in konq? |
| 03:59.28 | XVampireX | Try to move a file via right click menu Move To: |
| 03:59.35 | XVampireX | see if konq crashes |
| 03:59.45 | texnofobix | in C.6 |
| 03:59.45 | slyfox | XVampireX: do you know anything about Mplayer? I just installed it and it complaid about missing audio codec library - mp3lib ... something. All videos play fine andwhen I open some other video, it plays fine without giving me that mp3lib warning |
| 03:59.50 | texnofobix | err .6? |
| 03:59.57 | slyfox | XVampireX: let me see |
| 04:00.03 | XVampireX | Alright |
| 04:00.28 | XVampireX | sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer |
| 04:00.45 | slyfox | XVampireX: All works, no error for Konqueror |
| 04:01.06 | XVampireX | Hmm |
| 04:01.18 | slyfox | XVampireX: After unpacking 91.8MB of additional disk space will be used ??? Should I do so? |
| 04:01.21 | XVampireX | Don't know what the problem is then |
| 04:01.23 | slyfox | 91.8 mg ?!!! |
| 04:01.32 | XVampireX | Do you want to recompile mplayer? |
| 04:01.49 | XVampireX | if not, get mplayer from 3v1n0 repository |
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| 04:02.34 | slyfox | wow 3v1n0? can you please tell me more |
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| 04:05.12 | XVampireX | slyfox google it |
| 04:05.26 | XVampireX | 3v1n0 is someone from italy that uses kubuntu and has a nice repository |
| 04:05.49 | XVampireX | http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/ |
| 04:07.13 | slyfox | XVampireX: cool, I'll read |
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| 04:07.59 | Terinjokes | omg KDE rocks (sorry had to do that) |
| 04:08.18 | texnofobix | it does |
| 04:09.14 | Renze | it also kicks ass (but no donkeys were harmed) |
| 04:09.32 | texnofobix | llamas? |
| 04:10.04 | Renze | not even an alpaca |
| 04:10.08 | slyfox | :-) |
| 04:10.16 | Terinjokes | before i reinstalled gentoo i was using xfce, and i wasn't happy with it... always logging in as root to do anything with a USB stick, compiled KDE (had lots of cups of tea) and plug in a USB stick, and bam! (like emerl) it appears on the desktop :O |
| 04:11.10 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 04:11.21 | texnofobix | i never had mine show up on the desktop |
| 04:11.29 | texnofobix | got it in the toolbar though |
| 04:11.49 | Terinjokes | oh, sorry to hear about that texnofobix |
| 04:12.05 | texnofobix | no worries |
| 04:12.16 | texnofobix | i dont like the mac feel myself |
| 04:12.27 | Renze | I just wish my PSP wouldn't show up as an iPod... kinda insulting ;) |
| 04:12.36 | Terinjokes | texnofobix: well i am running on PPC hardware.... |
| 04:12.39 | texnofobix | hack it! |
| 04:12.53 | Terinjokes | Renze: maybe your PSP wants rockbox? |
| 04:12.59 | texnofobix | haha |
| 04:14.35 | XVampireX | I just wish more people would develop KDE4 faster |
| 04:14.42 | Terinjokes | just a quick question, how do i get "Most Used Applications" out of my K-bar? |
| 04:14.53 | Terinjokes | I'm a privacy freak... |
| 04:14.57 | Renze | Terinjokes: set the number to show to 0 |
| 04:15.11 | Terinjokes | where? |
| 04:15.22 | XVampireX | In your brain |
| 04:15.31 | Renze | right click panel, configure panel, menus page |
| 04:15.39 | XVampireX | Beside that |
| 04:16.02 | XVampireX | KDE4 should figure out some new way for managing things |
| 04:16.05 | Terinjokes | Renze: thanks, just overlooked that I guess |
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| 04:16.10 | Renze | no problem |
| 04:16.12 | XVampireX | Like for example there's Gimmie for Gnome |
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| 04:16.22 | XVampireX | There should be something better for KDE |
| 04:16.25 | slyfox | Damn it, wahts wrong with linux. Is there a player which supports Alway on Top fucntion ? |
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| 04:16.46 | Francesco|Up | lol |
| 04:16.53 | XVampireX | and instead of katapult, Krunner should replace katapult |
| 04:17.03 | Francesco|Up | actuallly he is kidding |
| 04:17.04 | XVampireX | slyfox: What's wrong? |
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| 04:17.28 | devnull | is there anyway to start kmix in the tray only? |
| 04:17.31 | Renze | damn it, what's wrong with slyfox? he can't right click on the titlebar and set it to always on top? |
| 04:17.35 | Terinjokes | XVampireX: I was said in the long time it took to 'emerge kde-meta' a decent music player didn't come across (/me is currently merging amorak) |
| 04:17.43 | Francesco|Up | the "top most" behavior is integrated in kde , so just left-click ur window and u will get it |
| 04:17.43 | sharp15 | is kdesu controlled by the /etc/sudoers file? if not where can i find the documentation? (no man page, etc. here) |
| 04:17.48 | XVampireX | Terinjokes: That's a way to watch porn, yeah? |
| 04:17.49 | slyfox | Renze: There is no such thing there, which player ? |
| 04:17.52 | Francesco|Up | alt-f3 |
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| 04:18.15 | Renze | slyfox: the player doesn't matter, it's a window manager function... right click, Advanced -> keep above others |
| 04:18.20 | sharp15 | devnull: /join #gentoo |
| 04:18.20 | XVampireX | kdesu = /etc/sudoers |
| 04:18.21 | XVampireX | yeah |
| 04:18.25 | Terinjokes | XVampireX: you mean you don't have '/usr/bin/libcacap0rn'? |
| 04:18.32 | sharp15 | devnull: sorry. |
| 04:18.35 | XVampireX | slyfox: What's the problem, god damnit |
| 04:18.37 | Terinjokes | devnull: gentoo help requested? |
| 04:18.40 | devnull | sharp15: o.O |
| 04:18.46 | XVampireX | Terinjokes: no |
| 04:19.00 | slyfox | XVampireX: how do I make Mplayer or KMplayer play always on top |
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| 04:19.03 | devnull | just wanted to know how to start kmix in tray |
| 04:19.07 | XVampireX | slyfox: what do you mean? |
| 04:19.11 | Renze | slyfox: I just told you how, you moron |
| 04:19.16 | XVampireX | It's related to window manager, baka |
| 04:19.32 | slyfox | Renze: let me see |
| 04:19.39 | XVampireX | right click window decoration -> always on top |
| 04:19.41 | Renze | slyfox: do you know what a titlebar is? |
| 04:19.42 | sharp15 | devnull: it should be "kmix" (sorry. was going to answer that and did something else instead.) |
| 04:19.50 | XVampireX | actually |
| 04:19.54 | slyfox | Renze: crap, got it ! |
| 04:19.56 | slyfox | sorry |
| 04:20.00 | slyfox | :-) |
| 04:20.04 | XVampireX | -> advanced -> Keep above others |
| 04:20.15 | slyfox | XVampireX: got it |
| 04:20.16 | XVampireX | >_< |
| 04:20.17 | devnull | sharp15: I set that to autoload on kde start and it loads the full app on the desktop, i just want it to minimize to tray |
| 04:20.18 | slyfox | Thank you. |
| 04:20.31 | XVampireX | no probs donkey |
| 04:20.56 | slyfox | Hey, I am just a noob from WIndows worl |
| 04:20.58 | slyfox | d |
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| 04:21.09 | Renze | devnull: instead of using autostart for kmix, just use KDE's session management (kde remembers what apps were running - if they are session aware) |
| 04:21.12 | XVampireX | slyfox: Ignore Renze, he's a troll |
| 04:21.42 | XVampireX | He even put me on ignore the other day |
| 04:21.47 | Renze | devnull: if kmix is restarted by kde's session manager, it is hidden in the system tray |
| 04:21.47 | devnull | Renze: Right, but it has not been doing that. But i think if i use: kmix -caption "%c" %i %m |
| 04:21.52 | sharp15 | devnull: i put a 2 line script containing "#! /bin/bash" "kmix" in ~/.kde/Autostart/ and it works fine every time. |
| 04:22.08 | texnofobix | XVampireX: i dont have a problem with Renze |
| 04:22.28 | XVampireX | texnofobix: I do |
| 04:22.29 | XVampireX | :P |
| 04:22.42 | XVampireX | just kidding, he does |
| 04:22.48 | texnofobix | Renze: <3 |
| 04:23.05 | Renze | texnofobix: um, my door doesn't swing that way... but thanks ;) |
| 04:23.09 | slyfox | Hey, its Linux, be friendly. :-) |
| 04:23.14 | texnofobix | not gay <3 |
| 04:23.27 | XVampireX | Haha :P |
| 04:23.27 | texnofobix | sheesh |
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| 04:23.34 | texnofobix | i am straight |
| 04:23.44 | Renze | just kidding ;) |
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| 04:24.39 | texnofobix | kmail-3.5.5-r1 errors out |
| 04:24.41 | texnofobix | :\ |
| 04:24.46 | texnofobix | amd64 |
| 04:25.02 | texnofobix | maybe i should do the 32bit jail? |
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| 04:25.11 | XVampireX | If you're not gay, then I am white |
| 04:25.25 | Terinjokes | another question, how do i get KDE to talk to CUPS? |
| 04:25.50 | XVampireX | kups |
| 04:26.01 | XVampireX | kprint |
| 04:27.14 | Terinjokes | XVampireX: in control centre (yay! KDE understands I'm Australian!) when I switch printers to CUPS, i get and error telling me to make sure CUPS is online (which it is as localhost:631 shows the page) |
| 04:27.37 | XVampireX | Terinjokes: Kubuntu? |
| 04:27.53 | Terinjokes | XVampireX: no! Gentoo! |
| 04:27.57 | XVampireX | Ah |
| 04:28.01 | XVampireX | No idea |
| 04:28.11 | XVampireX | I know in Kubuntu web interface is disabled in functionality |
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| 04:28.59 | Terinjokes | should I configure the first printer from the web interface, then see if Control Centre connects? |
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| 04:29.26 | Dr_willis | might as well. :) |
| 04:29.36 | Dr_willis | print a test page from the cups web interface also. |
| 04:29.44 | Terinjokes | ok |
| 04:30.08 | Terinjokes | its a networked printer, so might just be easier to configure the normal way anyways... |
| 04:30.57 | Dr_willis | networked.. Hmm.. those can be a bit bothersome to configure at times. |
| 04:31.21 | Dr_willis | but if its a good one with the right stuff.. cups should 'see' it. |
| 04:31.49 | Terinjokes | Dr_willis, I've done it before, IDK about this 'see'ing, but it prints... |
| 04:32.12 | Dr_willis | so it prints from the cups web interface? thats a good sign |
| 04:32.12 | Terinjokes | (i have to manually configure the server address and drivers, but thats nothing... |
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| 06:02.00 | aimee | Hey everyone |
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| 06:17.56 | kmag | Hey, so a search for "konqueror never ever fucking ever ever store my passwords" doesn't come up with anything useful |
| 06:18.50 | kmag | and setting up a chron job to fire off the password erase procedure mentioned in the FAQ doesn't sound very useful |
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| 06:19.01 | kmag | any tips? |
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| 06:20.04 | Ardonik | I thought it was kwallet that stored passwords, not Konqueror. |
| 06:21.19 | kmag | hmm... the Konqueror FAQ has how to get the passwords to be forgotten |
| 06:21.27 | kmag | but not how to turn them off |
| 06:21.54 | kmag | No manual entry for kwallet |
| 06:22.09 | kmag | but thanks |
| 06:22.11 | kmag | :-D |
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| 06:23.37 | stoned | hi |
| 06:23.59 | kmag | what's the commandline for the KWallet manager? |
| 06:24.38 | Jucato | kwalletmanager |
| 06:24.44 | Ardonik | That was easy. |
| 06:25.03 | kmag | kwebdesktop kwrapper kwriteconfig |
| 06:25.14 | kmag | those are my only kw* commands |
| 06:25.16 | Ardonik | Install th kwallet package for your distro. |
| 06:25.18 | kmag | :-) |
| 06:25.19 | Ardonik | *the. |
| 06:25.46 | kmag | can I just edit some config file? |
| 06:27.04 | Ardonik | kwallet offers centralized password control for all KDE applications. That's the only technique for controlling which app gets what that I am familiar with. |
| 06:27.26 | kmag | $ kwalletmanager |
| 06:27.26 | kmag | X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 |
| 06:27.26 | kmag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.26 | kmag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.26 | kmag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.27 | kmag | Failed to open device |
| 06:27.29 | kmag | X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 |
| 06:27.31 | kmag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.33 | kmag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.35 | kmag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.35 | Ardonik | It can also be turned on and off pretty easily, and stores its passwords in an encrypted manner (perhaps alleviating your concerns.) |
| 06:27.37 | kmag | Failed to open device |
| 06:27.37 | Jucato | ~pastebin |
| 06:27.47 | apt | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 06:27.47 | Renze | don't flood the channel |
| 06:27.47 | Ardonik | Dude, use a paste site. |
| 06:28.02 | kmag | gotcha |
| 06:28.22 | stoned | wow |
| 06:29.21 | kmag | Ardonik: no, really. My passwords are memorized. |
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| 06:29.36 | kmag | anyway. thanks. |
| 06:29.43 | kmag | off to try a neuter my system |
| 06:29.53 | kmag | I'll spare you my angst |
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| 06:30.06 | Renze | ah, paranoia... |
| 06:30.27 | stoned | hey |
| 06:30.36 | stoned | I AM IRONMAN! |
| 06:32.20 | Renze | you are ferrous oxide man! |
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| 06:43.05 | kakalto | anyone know about mouseclicks being disabled just after login? |
| 06:43.27 | kakalto | like, the case is. Person logs in. Mouseclicks work for around 10 seconds, then stop working. Then there's only mouse rolling |
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| 06:44.56 | mariux | why isn't korganizer available as a component in kontact after updating to 3.5.6? It is installed and i can run it separately... |
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| 06:45.45 | Jucato | mariux: works fine here. what distro? |
| 06:45.48 | mariux | gentoo |
| 06:46.10 | mariux | all other parts of kontact is available |
| 06:46.21 | Jucato | hm... |
| 06:46.28 | mariux | can i make it look again? |
| 06:46.57 | Jucato | mariux: have you checked Settings -> Configure Kontact -> Select Components? |
| 06:47.01 | mariux | kbuildsyscocoa did the trick |
| 06:47.07 | mariux | hmm |
| 06:47.08 | Jucato | heh :) |
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| 06:52.14 | GraveDigger | hello everybody |
| 06:53.06 | GraveDigger | i have an issue with konqueror, it denies following "ajfsp" urls saying that it is because the site is not trustworthy |
| 06:53.31 | GraveDigger | how to tell konqi that a certain site IS trustworthy and that it should follow such urls from there? |
| 06:54.12 | thiago | what kind of URLs are those? |
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| 06:57.49 | GraveDigger | thiago: applejuice file sharing links |
| 06:57.56 | GraveDigger | thiago: something like ed2k, but for another network |
| 06:58.39 | GraveDigger | thiago: i have put a proper file into ~/.kde/share/services/applejuice.protocol |
| 06:58.50 | GraveDigger | that contains a link handler |
| 06:59.34 | GraveDigger | and since exactly this .protocol file was taken from another computer where it worked, i am pretty sure, that the file itself is okay |
| 07:00.04 | thiago | right, any links from http to unknown protocols are said to be insecure |
| 07:00.36 | GraveDigger | true |
| 07:01.18 | GraveDigger | so how/where to tell konqi that this protocol and the site containing such links are "safe"? |
| 07:01.58 | thiago | edit ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals, section [KDE URL Restrictions] |
| 07:02.08 | thiago | increase the rule_count counter |
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| 07:02.18 | thiago | add a new rule (rule_1, rule_2, etc.) |
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| 07:03.39 | GraveDigger | *sigh* there is no such section in the file here |
| 07:03.49 | thiago | create it |
| 07:03.51 | GraveDigger | have you any example, that i can read from? |
| 07:04.16 | thiago | take a look at the kiosk pages |
| 07:04.18 | thiago | ~kiosk |
| 07:04.35 | apt | A WWW Based MySQL database manager. URL: http://www.icaap.org/software/kiosk/ |
| 07:04.35 | thiago | ~sysadmin |
| 07:05.02 | apt | You can find lots of information useful to sysadmins at http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin and in the User Guide at http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/kde-for-administrators.html |
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| 07:05.04 | thiago | no, that's not kiosk |
| 07:05.04 | thiago | ~admin |
| 07:05.34 | apt | from memory, admin is ERROR: can not use admin |
| 07:05.34 | thiago | there you go |
| 07:05.34 | GraveDigger | alright, lets have a look |
| 07:05.40 | GraveDigger | thank you thiago :) |
| 07:06.07 | thiago | apt: forget admin |
| 07:06.08 | apt | i forgot admin, thiago |
| 07:06.25 | thiago | apt: forget kiosk |
| 07:06.42 | thiago | apt: no, forget kiosk |
| 07:07.02 | Jucato | silly bot :) |
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| 07:10.55 | Renze | speaking of bots... whatever happened to AegeanLinux? ;) |
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| 07:11.39 | Jucato | next question: whatever happend to his distro? |
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| 07:13.14 | Jucato | seems to be no action since October... |
| 07:13.56 | Jucato | ah I'm wrong... the blog seems to be updated |
| 07:16.54 | GraveDigger | thiago: hmmm.... this is pretty easy |
| 07:17.09 | GraveDigger | thiago: do i need to restart kde in order to apply changes? |
| 07:17.22 | GraveDigger | or is restarting konqi sufficient? |
| 07:17.31 | thiago | no, kdeglobals is read by all apps at startup |
| 07:17.43 | thiago | so, it applies to newly-started apps |
| 07:17.50 | GraveDigger | okay, great :D |
| 07:18.14 | Renze | ich habe gas |
| 07:18.19 | Renze | *belch* |
| 07:18.22 | Jucato | ew... |
| 07:18.42 | GraveDigger | thiago: yeah! works! :D |
| 07:18.53 | GraveDigger | thiago: much thanks, dude :D |
| 07:19.49 | LiquidNerd | Renze: when don't you? |
| 07:20.03 | Renze | LiquidNerd: I didn't an hour ago |
| 07:20.16 | LiquidNerd | heh |
| 07:20.37 | LiquidNerd | takes like 10 minutes to scan everything |
| 07:20.49 | Renze | why do you have to rebuild it? |
| 07:20.50 | Jucato | Fanta? |
| 07:20.56 | Renze | Jucato: orange soda |
| 07:21.07 | LiquidNerd | sorry, rescan the collection |
| 07:21.17 | Jucato | that thing is still alive? |
| 07:21.19 | Renze | why do you have to rescan it? |
| 07:21.27 | Renze | Jucato: what thing? |
| 07:21.37 | LiquidNerd | I made a lot of changes to my dir.. added stuff, moved stuff around, removed stuff |
| 07:21.46 | LiquidNerd | I think tomorrow I shall tackle the task of implementing a MySQL database for Amarok |
| 07:21.46 | Renze | LiquidNerd: it should update automatically |
| 07:21.57 | LiquidNerd | it does, but doesn't get all the empty stuff |
| 07:21.57 | Jucato | Renze: Fanta |
| 07:22.05 | Renze | LiquidNerd: there is no implementation necessary... you just tell Amarok to use mysql, and it works |
| 07:22.30 | Renze | Jucato: Fanta is still very popular here |
| 07:22.34 | Jucato | wow |
| 07:22.39 | LiquidNerd | yeah but I don't even have a mysql database on this system |
| 07:22.45 | LiquidNerd | simply because I have no reason for it |
| 07:22.46 | Jucato | didn't last here that long... |
| 07:22.49 | Renze | LiquidNerd: weirdo ;) |
| 07:22.53 | LiquidNerd | heh |
| 07:22.59 | LiquidNerd | what would I use it for really? |
| 07:23.07 | Renze | every geek should have a dbms... just because... |
| 07:23.22 | LiquidNerd | lol.. I have postgres on my server in my laundry |
| 07:23.26 | LiquidNerd | but that's for e-mail |
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| 07:23.31 | Renze | actually, I use it for web development - for when the client needs a database |
| 07:23.49 | LiquidNerd | ahh.. I don't really do any dev work at all anymore |
| 07:23.54 | Renze | and since mysql is more widely used by webhosting sites, that's what I have |
| 07:24.03 | LiquidNerd | makes sense |
| 07:24.18 | Renze | plus, databases are fun to mess with :D |
| 07:24.24 | Q-collective | :) |
| 07:24.31 | LiquidNerd | agreed, but you need stuff to put in them! |
| 07:25.09 | Renze | on my old PC I had a pgsql setup with a database of all my movies/games/etc... and a web interface to browse it |
| 07:25.33 | Renze | including a borrower database for when people borrowed my stuff :D |
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| 07:26.28 | LiquidNerd | heh.. for that I use an app called cdcat... quite old but man it's great for keeping track of cds |
| 07:26.28 | Jucato | Renze: have you seen tellico? |
| 07:26.28 | Renze | Jucato: yes... this was before Tellico |
| 07:26.28 | Jucato | aah... when you were younger? |
| 07:26.28 | Renze | my web interface was prettier :D |
| 07:26.29 | Renze | Jucato: yes, I used to be younger :P |
| 07:26.38 | Renze | zomg! I'm several seconds older! |
| 07:26.54 | Renze | LiquidNerd: that doesn't happen as much with mysql |
| 07:27.01 | LiquidNerd | wouldn't think so |
| 07:27.15 | LiquidNerd | Like.. I'm only trying to insert 7000 songs in one shot |
| 07:27.24 | Renze | I don't have quite that many |
| 07:27.25 | LiquidNerd | who would of thought it would be a problem :-| |
| 07:27.39 | Renze | I have ~3000 |
| 07:28.42 | LiquidNerd | does amarok leave the album art in every folder you have mp3's in aswell? |
| 07:30.02 | LiquidNerd | no waiting required |
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| 07:30.03 | LiquidNerd | haha.. joke's on you! |
| 07:30.03 | LiquidNerd | boxes float! |
| 07:30.03 | Renze | boxes with holes don't |
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| 07:30.13 | Renze | time for House, M.D. |
| 07:30.35 | Renze | unlikely |
| 07:30.43 | Renze | bbl |
| 07:39.38 | LiquidNerd | yeah not untill 21:00 |
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| 07:40.53 | deb_noob | is there a kde pdf reader? |
| 07:41.04 | Q-collective | kpdf? |
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| 07:42.08 | deb_noob | thanks |
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| 07:45.59 | Q-collective | heh |
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| 08:16.01 | LiquidNerd | beryl like kwin or KDE? |
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| 08:16.24 | Jucato | ? |
| 08:16.30 | LiquidNerd | lol... not sure how to say it |
| 08:16.38 | LiquidNerd | is it a window manager or a desktop environment? |
| 08:16.41 | Jucato | Beryl = window manager. KWin = KDE Window Manager |
| 08:16.55 | Jucato | ^^^ :) |
| 08:17.19 | LiquidNerd | so one could use Beryl in place of KWin? |
| 08:17.27 | Jucato | yes |
| 08:17.40 | LiquidNerd | would that cause a disturbance in the force? |
| 08:17.47 | Jucato | but you'd have to ask about how to do that elsewhere, like in #beryl or in your distro's channel |
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| 08:18.23 | RawSewage | is there a way to play H264 mkv files in Kubuntu. it's all jerky or the sound is out of sync |
| 08:18.29 | RawSewage | sorry, I mean KDE |
| 08:18.30 | LiquidNerd | I noticed it on kde-look so I wasn't sure what the deal with it was |
| 08:19.11 | RawSewage | or maybe I mean Linux |
| 08:19.56 | Ardonik | Try switching players. |
| 08:20.00 | RawSewage | I have |
| 08:20.03 | RawSewage | Ive tried them all |
| 08:20.07 | RawSewage | some work better than others |
| 08:20.10 | Ardonik | Then you should have said which players you were trying. |
| 08:20.19 | Ardonik | Otherwise we are left to guess, which wastes time. |
| 08:20.23 | RawSewage | mplayer, vlc, etc |
| 08:20.52 | RawSewage | mplayer has worked the best for H264 so far, but the sound is out of sync |
| 08:20.52 | Ardonik | "etc"? They all have the same problem? |
| 08:21.16 | RawSewage | the computer cant keep up with it |
| 08:21.19 | Ardonik | Xine? Totem? Kaffeine? |
| 08:21.26 | RawSewage | yes |
| 08:21.31 | Ardonik | Oh, so it's just a CPU power issue. |
| 08:21.35 | RawSewage | no |
| 08:21.38 | Ardonik | mplayer has a -hardframedrop option. |
| 08:21.45 | RawSewage | hm |
| 08:22.24 | RawSewage | i'll try that |
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| 08:23.58 | Ardonik | Mplayer has a metric ton of other options. I would quite frankly be surprised if one combination or another of them did not play the file in the way you want. |
| 08:24.10 | Ardonik | But you'll have to give it more time and patience than you have given it so far. |
| 08:25.03 | RawSewage | how do you know my patience |
| 08:25.08 | RawSewage | Ive spend a lot of time researching this |
| 08:25.13 | RawSewage | it's not an uncommon problem |
| 08:25.20 | RawSewage | still no luck |
| 08:26.06 | RawSewage | H264 is a new coded, with 1280 width files |
| 08:26.09 | RawSewage | codec |
| 08:26.34 | RawSewage | the -hardframedrop sucked |
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| 08:26.49 | RawSewage | I got like one frame every 5 seconds |
| 08:27.10 | mots | hi, i have a problem with kcontrol/arch/cups |
| 08:27.46 | mots | when i go to "printers", it says "Connection to CUPS-Server failed" |
| 08:27.57 | mots | but cups is installed... |
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| 08:51.04 | Jucato | strange that I'm having a KDE problem that seems to happen only on FreeBSD... |
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| 08:56.25 | pinotree | YO! |
| 08:56.41 | PhilRod | work time |
| 08:56.50 | Jucato | heheh hi PhilOut |
| 08:57.47 | Jucato | hm... quick question... does kcheckpass need to have suid root or something? |
| 08:58.04 | Jucato | (basically, I can't seem to unlock my own session) |
| 08:58.24 | Jucato | and no, Renze, don't blame this one on Kubuntu :P |
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| 09:01.36 | jamiel | Hey all, I set my klipper to auto-hide immediately, but now it stays hidden and I can't get it back ... where is the config file hidden so that I can switch this back from my term? |
| 09:01.54 | Jucato | klipper? or you mean kicker? |
| 09:02.04 | jamiel | erm, yeah sorry |
| 09:02.26 | Richlv | i have quite a longstanding problem with some progress dialogs/splashscreens on kde. some/most java and wine dialogs are topmost - they stay on top even when i change desktops. how could i diagnose & resolve this problem ? |
| 09:02.32 | Jucato | jamiel: Alt+F2, "kcontrol" -> Desktop -> Panels |
| 09:02.46 | Richlv | attempts to detect their properties from within "window specific settings" dialog seem to fail |
| 09:03.16 | jamiel | Ok thnx Ill try, brb |
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| 09:14.04 | LiquidNerd | what's the name of that funky console that hides off the side of the screen when you don't need it |
| 09:14.14 | Jucato | Yakuake |
| 09:14.24 | LiquidNerd | thanks |
| 09:14.46 | LiquidNerd | my internet is so messed up |
| 09:14.51 | LiquidNerd | just chugs |
| 09:14.56 | LiquidNerd | stupid DNS server |
| 09:15.02 | Renze | stop with the porn and it'll clean up |
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| 09:15.42 | LiquidNerd | NEVER! |
| 09:16.03 | LiquidNerd | I have a DNS server in my laundry room... yet I'm using the one from my ISP for some reason... that will change |
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| 09:20.22 | LiquidNerd | it's not that easy to find kanji images on the web for specific things |
| 09:20.26 | LiquidNerd | bothersome really |
| 09:21.06 | Renze | ã¡ã‚“ã½ã“ |
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| 09:21.18 | LiquidNerd | pffft |
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| 09:21.30 | LiquidNerd | how can I type that into gimp? |
| 09:21.43 | LiquidNerd | better yet, how would I type kanzen budo? |
| 09:21.49 | Renze | no idea :P |
| 09:21.53 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 09:23.10 | Renze | I just used kiten to look up "penis" :D |
| 09:23.25 | LiquidNerd | kiten? |
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| 09:23.31 | Renze | part of kdeedu |
| 09:23.53 | LiquidNerd | which is something I have already on this system |
| 09:23.55 | LiquidNerd | hehe |
| 09:23.56 | LiquidNerd | wicked |
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| 09:25.41 | canllaith | uhm |
| 09:26.03 | canllaith | I have no idea what you guys were talking about (I can only see about 10 lines of scrollback) |
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| 09:26.04 | canllaith | but please, don't tell me. |
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| 09:26.08 | Renze | we won't ;) |
| 09:26.26 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 09:27.50 | Renze | lots |
| 09:28.01 | Jucato | O.o |
| 09:28.12 | Jucato | I'd raise my eyebrows if I could |
| 09:28.21 | LiquidNerd | shaved them off? |
| 09:28.36 | Renze | facial paralysis from botox treatments? |
| 09:28.43 | Jucato | no. I just don't know how to do it properly :P |
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| 09:29.28 | LiquidNerd | pffft.... this would be better if gimp worked like Photoshop |
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| 09:29.42 | LiquidNerd | intead of doing 12 steps in gimp, I can do it in 1 in Photoshop |
| 09:31.23 | Jucato | what photograph? O.o |
| 09:31.23 | Renze | good question |
| 09:31.30 | Jucato | hm.... |
| 09:31.33 | Renze | Jucato: 'bout time you posted one |
| 09:31.35 | tuxman | morning |
| 09:31.43 | canllaith | I'm all over the damn internet, Renze posted a photograph of himself, it's only fair |
| 09:31.44 | Jucato | hah! my pics are not a secret :) |
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| 09:31.54 | Jucato | http://jucato.org/gallery :P |
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| 09:32.42 | Jucato | lots in there... but nothing for this month... |
| 09:32.52 | Jucato | canllaith: oh yes... your pics do get around :) |
| 09:32.53 | canllaith | although I don't know how recent |
| 09:33.08 | canllaith | ;) |
| 09:33.20 | Renze | too bad I don't have a camera |
| 09:33.28 | tuxman | I was wondering if there is a way to say kontact to stay in background at startup and not to jump over my desktop everytime I login. |
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| 09:33.36 | monzie | hi all |
| 09:33.49 | monzie | i need to download kdelibs 3.3.1 .. unfortunately .. i dont think the tarball is available anywhere |
| 09:33.55 | tuxman | does someone know how? |
| 09:33.56 | canllaith | http://www.ac.nz/~jes/builderers.jpg that is the most recent one of me online |
| 09:33.57 | monzie | http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/3.3.1/src/kdelibs-3.3.1.tar.bz2 |
| 09:34.06 | monzie | does not provide much help |
| 09:34.15 | canllaith | monzie: tried just browzing around the ftp server? |
| 09:34.28 | canllaith | poking around ftp.kde.org would probably find it |
| 09:34.35 | Renze | monzie: 3.3.1? why so old? |
| 09:34.51 | canllaith | Although you're right, there may not be a tarball - you could always check it out of subversion. I can tell you the commandline to use for that if you need it. |
| 09:35.05 | canllaith | definitely |
| 09:35.16 | canllaith | what a cop out! I put up about the ugliest pic of me ever =) |
| 09:35.24 | Renze | no such thing |
| 09:35.42 | canllaith | The only uglier one went on an article where some dumbasses said I should have picked a prettier chick to illustrate webcam support with, not realising that uh, the chick was me |
| 09:35.51 | monzie | Renze: i need to build some stuff for RHEL 4 |
| 09:35.54 | canllaith | (and it was matt rogers on the other end, and I think I'm prettier than he is... right?) |
| 09:36.02 | Renze | monzie: ah... that's why so old :D |
| 09:36.03 | canllaith | monzie: grab it out of subversion would work the best. |
| 09:36.11 | Renze | canllaith: definitely |
| 09:36.21 | monzie | canllaith: could you help me out a little in that regard? |
| 09:36.47 | canllaith | monzie: sure this is the url in websvn http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.3.1/ |
| 09:36.55 | LiquidNerd | tuxman: Right click on the title bar, Advanced, Special Application Settings |
| 09:36.59 | canllaith | So you'll need to install subversion and then to check it out you'd use something like |
| 09:37.12 | canllaith | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/3.3.1/kdelibs |
| 09:37.20 | canllaith | Oh, so do I. I technically am supposed to be using it at work |
| 09:37.33 | LiquidNerd | "technically" |
| 09:37.34 | Renze | DeadRat is bad, mmmkay? |
| 09:37.36 | canllaith | I'm really using opensuse 10.2 'cause rhel blows chunks on the desktop |
| 09:37.57 | canllaith | LiquidNerd: there are two official corporate install images. One is rhel one is windows xp. I choose to ignore this. |
| 09:37.58 | LiquidNerd | rhanytihng blows chunks on everything |
| 09:38.04 | canllaith | It's not bad on the server |
| 09:38.07 | canllaith | It's not debian, but it's not bad. |
| 09:38.18 | canllaith | We use apt or smart for package management and it's pretty nice |
| 09:38.31 | canllaith | kickstart is great. |
| 09:38.55 | LiquidNerd | The lack of a package management system was the reason I switched to Mandrake after about 1 month of using Linux |
| 09:38.59 | canllaith | so hopefully you noticed the svn url in the middle of my blather monzie |
| 09:39.17 | tuxman | LiquidNerd: and then? |
| 09:39.35 | tuxman | I cannot find stay in background at startup |
| 09:39.39 | benJIman | canllaith: I think you mean "It's not debian, /so/ it's not bad" :p |
| 09:39.48 | canllaith | benJIman: bite your tongue! |
| 09:40.01 | canllaith | I don't mind debian. Once again, on the server. |
| 09:40.02 | Jucato | :P |
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| 09:40.16 | tuxman | I mean stay in the tray where your place is |
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| 09:40.57 | canllaith | tuxman: sort of, you can start it with kstart (look at kstart --help) for the options |
| 09:41.00 | canllaith | ) |
| 09:41.13 | canllaith | If it's being restored with your session though that isn't going to help |
| 09:41.41 | canllaith | Jucato: self portrait with camera phone? ;) |
| 09:41.48 | Jucato | canllaith: hehe :) |
| 09:42.09 | Renze | hey, mine is self-portrait with webcam... which is worse? :D |
| 09:42.29 | Jucato | the webcam :D |
| 09:43.13 | monzie | canllaith: i did.. but there is no svn installed on RHEL 4!!! |
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| 09:45.25 | Jucato | ew? |
| 09:45.59 | Jucato | oh well... |
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| 09:47.04 | LiquidNerd | ew? Have you seen it? pretty slick and intuitive |
| 09:47.08 | LiquidNerd | just a resource hog |
| 09:47.09 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 09:47.43 | Jucato | hence the "ew" |
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| 09:48.05 | LiquidNerd | that's why I said I hope it steals the look.. not the problems |
| 09:48.05 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 09:49.30 | tuxman | ok i'll try with special window configuration. hope this works next login. thank you |
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| 09:54.14 | RockMan | ciao |
| 09:55.40 | canllaith | monzie: can you get a package for svn ? |
| 09:55.48 | canllaith | Or even compile it from source and throw it in /opt or something? |
| 09:56.44 | Jucato | sweet dreams sweet canllaith |
| 09:57.13 | Jucato | may the ants devour you in your sweetness :) |
| 09:57.44 | canllaith | ! |
| 09:57.51 | canllaith | and ugh, I need to stop reading osnews |
| 09:57.59 | Jucato | O.o |
| 09:58.16 | Jucato | well, some people have to do the dirty work (of reading those stuff...) |
| 09:58.22 | canllaith | occasionally I torment myself by (shudder) glancing at their blogs. |
| 09:58.31 | qupada | heh, there's a joke in there about the bed bugs biting |
| 09:58.49 | qupada | canllaith: head over to fark.com instead |
| 09:58.51 | Jucato | replace the osnews habit with something more educational and satisfying... read /. |
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| 10:00.53 | canllaith | ok bedtime |
| 10:00.56 | canllaith | night guys |
| 10:01.00 | Renze | night canllaith |
| 10:01.35 | qupada | night |
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| 10:03.29 | bram85 | funny things... timezones |
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| 10:03.42 | Jucato | yes, don't you just love them :) |
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| 10:19.21 | dreambox | hello can someone help me with KDE , Conky , and the Autostart scripts? |
| 10:19.41 | dreambox | i make a file called "startterm" in ~/.kde/Autostart and KWrite starts ! duh ! |
| 10:20.25 | qupada | well for starters you need to mark it executable |
| 10:20.44 | dreambox | a sec |
| 10:20.59 | dreambox | -rwxr-xr-x 1 mv 1001 22 Jan 30 10:15 startterm |
| 10:21.24 | dreambox | it is..what should i write in it ? |
| 10:21.29 | pinotree | ~autostart |
| 10:21.39 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 10:21.39 | qupada | ok, well in that case rename it to startterm.sh |
| 10:21.41 | pinotree | dreambox: ^^^ |
| 10:21.53 | dreambox | ~autostart = ? |
| 10:22.26 | dreambox | oh |
| 10:22.28 | pinotree | dreambox: what apt said |
| 10:22.47 | dreambox | yep looking. anyone with experience on CONKY + KDE (transparency?) |
| 10:27.45 | dreambox | i ll go and test |
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| 10:31.04 | dreambox | i dont have a /env on the .kde folder |
| 10:32.45 | dreambox | how can i set my background using FEH |
| 10:32.48 | dreambox | ? |
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| 10:39.01 | monzie | hi all |
| 10:39.12 | monzie | is it possible for me to build only khtml ? |
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| 10:45.45 | Jucato | bah nvm |
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| 11:07.54 | samuel | hi |
| 11:08.11 | samuel | gibts das schon für fedora? |
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| 11:13.52 | Macroni | Are there any plug ins for bandwidth monitoring per aplication for the process controler? |
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| 11:40.45 | zamolxes | which one? :) kwavecontrol kwifimanager kwirelessmonitor kwlan swscanner wlassistant |
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| 11:49.45 | afd_ | hi! Is it possible to configure KDE to only show windows on the current desktop on the alt+tab popup? |
| 11:50.33 | Caster | it does here |
| 11:51.03 | Caster | so it's possible |
| 11:51.13 | Caster | but if I had to configure it somewhere, forgot where :) |
| 11:51.28 | snader | afd_: kcontrol -> desktop -> window behavior |
| 11:51.43 | snader | option "traverse windows ..." |
| 11:51.50 | afd_ | ok, looking |
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| 11:53.00 | afd_ | cool, it works. Thanks! |
| 11:53.03 | Richlv | i have quite a longstanding problem with some progress dialogs/splashscreens on kde. some/most java and wine dialogs are topmost - they stay on top even when i change desktops. how could i diagnose & resolve this problem ? |
| 11:53.08 | Richlv | attempts to detect their properties from within "window specific settings" dialog seem to fail |
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| 11:53.44 | zamolxes | really, what do you use for managing wireless connections? i have the 6 options above but don't know which one is best |
| 11:55.38 | colo_work | i use a custom-tailored colletion of shellscripts, quite naturally |
| 11:55.54 | zamolxes | yes, i use that too |
| 11:56.01 | zamolxes | works for home & office |
| 11:56.18 | zamolxes | but i'm to lasy to make it work for searching new networks and such |
| 11:56.31 | zamolxes | and figured there's something already done. and there are 6 options :) |
| 11:56.37 | zamolxes | argh |
| 11:56.40 | zamolxes | i'll just test each one |
| 11:56.55 | zamolxes | that's what I was trying to avoid by asking :) |
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| 12:09.42 | Tuju | it again shows empty messages even those are not |
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| 12:24.27 | endra | hey |
| 12:24.38 | endra | k3b doesn't seem to detect my devices, any idea why? |
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| 12:25.01 | endra | of course not, lets see.. im running as a normal user, I can see the device in System when I insert a CD |
| 12:26.06 | endra | .. it only works when I run k3b as root |
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| 12:27.36 | funkyou | endra: try k3bsetup |
| 12:27.50 | endra | I recall doing that when I installed it |
| 12:28.19 | endra | Do I run k3bsetup from root or from my user? |
| 12:28.27 | funkyou | as user |
| 12:28.40 | funkyou | it will ask you for your root password |
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| 12:29.30 | funkyou | then you can set the rights for burning... on my machine i just have to click on apply after starting it and k3b is ready |
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| 12:34.43 | endra | Should I check 'use burning group: burning' ? |
| 12:34.52 | endra | I didn't check it the first time, could that be the problem |
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| 12:36.27 | endra | Well, i ran k3bsetup and still nothing.. not detecting it |
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| 12:47.09 | funkyou | endra: when you checked the burning group in k3bsetup, your user has to be in that group |
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| 12:54.40 | endra | funkyou I understand but I didn't check it because it doesnt exist |
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| 13:21.43 | astan | anyone know a good font browser where i can browse different TTF/OTF/Type 1 fonts without installing them? |
| 13:22.00 | astan | and choose which text string to use for previewing the font. |
| 13:22.10 | Jucato | kfontview? |
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| 13:25.04 | astan | Jucato: ah yes. but it's a little to awkward for browsing, you have to choose File->Open for each font, no way to open all fonts in a directory :/ |
| 13:25.26 | Jucato | right-click -> Preview ? |
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| 13:27.10 | astan | Jucato: you mean in konqueror? yea, but it won't let me choose the string, will only display "Aaa. |
| 13:27.18 | Jucato | aaah |
| 13:27.54 | astan | i was looking for something i could tell "preview all fonts in this dir recursively using this text string". |
| 13:27.57 | astan | thanks anyway. |
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| 13:35.27 | ocb58 | how can you disable the kde login? |
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| 14:01.36 | whirm | someone know's if there's an vim editor kpart that works with kde 3.5.6? |
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| 14:02.05 | whirm | *knows |
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| 14:38.24 | luke_ | hello, who knows where the kicker applet info is stored? |
| 14:38.44 | luke_ | I want to change an icon for an applet |
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| 14:45.43 | JohnFlux | luke_: which applet? |
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| 14:53.13 | spawn57 | can anyone help me with a l'il C++.. |
| 14:53.26 | Jucato | return 0; |
| 14:53.49 | spawn57 | terminate(Jucato); |
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| 14:54.10 | Jucato | error: Undefined reference to terminate() |
| 14:54.37 | spawn57 | dammit |
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| 15:00.28 | spawn57 | wb Jucato |
| 15:00.33 | Jucato | thanks |
| 15:00.51 | Jucato | hm... for some reason, my Konvi is acting weird... gonna wait for Sho_... |
| 15:01.02 | spawn57 | he maintains it? |
| 15:01.08 | Sho_ | Jucato: Hm? |
| 15:01.08 | smileaf | Jucato: you getting disconnected alot also? |
| 15:01.19 | Jucato | smileaf: nope not that |
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| 15:01.43 | Jucato | Sho_: I can't seem to browse my previously entered text by pressing the Up key anymore... |
| 15:02.14 | Sho_ | Jucato: You probably switched the input line to multi-line mode, in which it is Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down |
| 15:02.18 | Sho_ | +case |
| 15:02.25 | Jucato | O.o |
| 15:02.27 | Jucato | oh... |
| 15:02.46 | Jucato | bah.. input box expands with text... |
| 15:03.34 | smileaf | I keep getting disconnected.. ever so often it refuses to reconnect until I completely restart konversation. |
| 15:03.34 | Jucato | Sho_: thanks... I was beginning to panic... never knew that about the multi-line mode |
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| 15:03.55 | Sho_ | smileaf: Sounds like a problem with your system/router/connection/ISP |
| 15:04.31 | smileaf | Sho_: I'd agree.. except for the why it won't reconnect until I restart it? |
| 15:05.23 | Sho_ | smileaf: Hm can't tell without more data |
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| 15:06.08 | smileaf_ | what also confuses me is that kopete isn't disconnecting me? |
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| 15:07.14 | smileaf_ | there are times in konqueror that I have to reclick a link.. such as I click it.. it starts loading... and just gets stuck. so I reclick it or if the page times out or starts to get rendered when it stops I reload it. |
| 15:07.44 | smileaf_ | very recent issues. 2 days I think. |
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| 15:28.17 | _RADIOhead | hmm md5sum failed |
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| 15:29.20 | _RADIOhead | maybe xdelta isue |
| 15:29.20 | _RADIOhead | or crapy download :) |
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| 15:49.44 | Jucato | anyone here using Amarok with the separate player window (like Winamp?) |
| 15:50.54 | dinolinux | yes |
| 15:51.32 | Jucato | does right-clicking on the small player window bring up a menu, like in xmms/winamp? |
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| 15:51.49 | dinolinux | no |
| 15:52.08 | dinolinux | you have to click the "PL" button on the small button |
| 15:52.10 | dinolinux | player |
| 15:52.14 | Jucato | hm... would be a nice feature to request... |
| 15:52.17 | Jucato | thanks |
| 15:52.22 | dinolinux | np |
| 15:52.41 | Jucato | yeah, which is a bit inconvenient... |
| 15:52.53 | Jucato | I mean, there's a reason why you hide the playlist window and only show the player window... |
| 15:53.26 | Sho_ | Jucato: Yes, right-clicking on the small player window brings up a menu in my Amarok 1.4.4 |
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| 15:53.31 | MrGrim | ... broken record time... I use the systray for controlling amaroK when the main window is hidden :P |
| 15:53.34 | Jucato | :O |
| 15:53.56 | Jucato | hm... I have 1.4-SVN... |
| 15:54.58 | Jucato | MrGrim: can you access settings from the systray? |
| 15:55.17 | Jucato | in amarok I mean |
| 15:55.21 | MrGrim | no... |
| 15:55.34 | MrGrim | tho tbh I haven't touched my amaroK settings in months |
| 15:55.43 | Jucato | fwiw, I use the keyboard to control amarok's playback |
| 15:56.04 | Caster | multimedia keyboard ftw |
| 15:56.24 | MrGrim | I could do that.. but the last time I used khotkeys there was a considerable lag between pressing the button and anything happening.. I don't know if it's th eplayer, dcop, or khotkeys to blame |
| 15:56.32 | Jucato | ha! I just realized that amarok doesn't have a keyboard shortcut to toggle the player window when in "xmms" mode |
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| 15:57.04 | MrGrim | I'd hit my pause button and 5 seconds later it'd pause |
| 15:57.13 | MrGrim | not good when quickly trying to silence a porno |
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| 16:01.44 | YippMN | is there any other real nice cd player for kde , other than kscd? |
| 16:02.22 | tinus | try amarok. |
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| 16:03.23 | YippMN | Tini, yeah ive heard of it just haven't looked into it |
| 16:03.34 | YippMN | tinus, that was for you:) |
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| 16:26.35 | sebbar | hi, I was wondering, why can't gwenview be merged into okular? |
| 16:26.45 | pinotree | no |
| 16:27.18 | sebbar | why not? |
| 16:27.47 | pinotree | they are different applications, with different purpouses |
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| 16:29.17 | Jucato | pinotree: how did the kpdf2 thing go? |
| 16:29.24 | pinotree | no idea |
| 16:29.42 | Jucato | :) |
| 16:30.00 | Jucato | someone mentioned an e-mail about it in kde-announce... |
| 16:30.07 | Sho_ | Jucato: There's a thread on kde-devel |
| 16:30.23 | Jucato | to which I'm not subscribed... go figure... lol |
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| 16:32.44 | pinotree | night Jucato |
| 16:32.53 | Jucato | good night pinotree, Sho_ :) |
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| 16:35.50 | Sho_ | night Jucato |
| 16:37.01 | pinotree | Sho_: for curiosity, what do you think about sebbar's question above? |
| 16:38.36 | Sho_ | pinotree: I think it's a challenge in terms of coming up with a user interface that combines the two without handicapping either, from a user point of view, I'd love to have a universal, ubiquitous viewer for images and documents |
| 16:39.20 | Dr_willis | Dident the old AMIGA OS have that - a single viewer that was expandable with the use of 'data-types' to view new fileformats |
| 16:39.27 | Sho_ | Jucato__: ... which failed the challenge |
| 16:39.35 | Jucato__ | heh :_) |
| 16:39.41 | Sho_ | Dr_willis: OS X also has one, "Preview" |
| 16:40.01 | pinotree | preview is a delusion |
| 16:40.03 | Jucato__ | Sho_: now would be a good time to fix whatever needs fixing... anyway... beloved Konqi just uses kparts... |
| 16:40.15 | Sho_ | pinotree: By the way, the comic book archive generator has made a friend of mine very happy when I told him about it. He hopes it will have basic controls to change contrast, brightness, etc. :) |
| 16:40.20 | Dr_willis | but the problem i often have is that in some 'cases' like for simple .wav i just want a simple player to preview the thing.. not a player with huge playlists and databases and plugins. |
| 16:41.54 | Dr_willis | No time for sleep! get those reports ready! |
| 16:42.21 | Jucato__ | Dr_willis: I'm an innocent bystander in that meeting |
| 16:43.00 | Dr_willis | Jucato__, so you can show up in your Pajammas! |
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| 17:01.00 | YippMN | how do i get k3b to access my second cdrom? |
| 17:01.20 | Dr_willis | check the configuration menu/tools? |
| 17:01.46 | Dr_willis | the popdown menus should show all detected devices if i recall. |
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| 17:02.54 | YippMN | Dr_willis, well it doesn't show my second read only drive hmm, i click the add device , but not sure where to have it look |
| 17:03.18 | Dr_willis | there is taht k3bsetup program |
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| 17:03.58 | YippMN | Dr_willis, yup looked at that , and it has add device also , and if i tell it /dev/cdrom it says it doesn't find any |
| 17:04.19 | BCMM | i went to add a file association for google earth, but presumably also did something else by accident, as many KDE apps are complaining about the mime type application/octet-stream not being found |
| 17:04.29 | BCMM | how can i fix that? |
| 17:04.29 | Dr_willis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.33 | Dr_willis | it may be wrong. |
| 17:04.59 | YippMN | Dr_willis, hmm from what it says i mite have to check on permissions |
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| 17:06.33 | MrGrim | BCMM: I had that happen during a major 3.x upgrade.. after months I gave up and reinstalled |
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| 17:12.15 | BCMM | MrGrim: oh dear... |
| 17:12.30 | BCMM | MrGrim: i did just update, but i also changed an association |
| 17:12.42 | BCMM | i don't hink i touched applicatoin/octet-stream |
| 17:12.55 | BCMM | if i jsut knew where this stuff was stored |
| 17:13.07 | MrGrim | I think my problem may have been doing a major version upgrade (e.g. 3.2 -> 3.3) while the old version was still running |
| 17:13.07 | BCMM | i could probably overwrite it with the defaults from the system kde directory |
| 17:13.10 | MrGrim | but it's only speculation |
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| 17:13.20 | MrGrim | it was totally fubared.. you're may not be bad tho |
| 17:13.28 | BCMM | or just delete them... i presume that woudl trigger whatever mechanism put them there in the first palce |
| 17:13.31 | BCMM | oh, everything works |
| 17:13.37 | BCMM | jsut gives me errors when starting |
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| 17:13.52 | BCMM | when starting most kde apps |
| 17:13.57 | MrGrim | music players wouldn't play music for me |
| 17:14.04 | MrGrim | nothing knew wth kind of file it had |
| 17:14.17 | MrGrim | basic crap would work.. IRC worked :P |
| 17:14.21 | BCMM | amarok works fine but has like 2-3 copies of the error dialog on startup |
| 17:14.22 | MrGrim | mail kinda worked |
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| 17:26.38 | XVampireX | Hello :D |
| 17:26.56 | XVampireX | What window decorations do you people use? |
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| 17:31.35 | slack_rulz | Hi |
| 17:31.37 | slack_rulz | I have troubles with the KDE apps when I run them in another window manager |
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| 17:49.02 | artur123 | hi |
| 17:49.18 | artur123 | where can i find polish irc channel about KDE? |
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| 18:16.13 | trench- | g'day everyone...having an unusual issue here when i try to highlight several things with left-click drag, either on desktop or dirs..running gentoo/kde3.5.6.. here's a screeny: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1039/screenshotja7.png |
| 18:16.42 | trench- | i've asked in #gentoo-kde already...no one seem to have an idea |
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| 18:17.36 | trench- | the blue part is what happens when i simply highlight...instead of the usual shade, it gives that darker color, and doesn't go away until an item was removed or added from the desktop or dir |
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| 18:18.13 | trench- | from or to* |
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| 18:20.12 | nitro4ce | what do i need for my system to recognize fat and fat32 floppy disks under kde? |
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| 18:20.40 | nitro4ce | what do i need for my system to recognize fat and fat32 floppy disks under kde? |
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| 18:21.08 | nitro4ce | i know floppies suck, but i have valuable information on them |
| 18:23.42 | MrGrim | you need fat/fat32 kernel driver |
| 18:23.42 | MrGrim | s |
| 18:23.47 | MrGrim | a vfat wouldn't hurt |
| 18:24.44 | nitro4ce | i have them both. fat and vfat |
| 18:25.14 | thiago | use them |
| 18:25.17 | MrGrim | then just mount the device and you shoul dbe good to go |
| 18:25.19 | nitro4ce | i have to go. later |
| 18:25.33 | nitro4ce | we talk later |
| 18:25.42 | nitro4ce | i still have the issue |
| 18:25.53 | trench- | anyone with any ideas about my highlighting issue |
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| 18:31.21 | MrRagga | hi |
| 18:31.46 | MrRagga | suddenly all the openen programs disappeared in the taskbar, known bug? i am using kde 3.5.5 |
| 18:32.11 | victor_ | i'm using gentoo and kde 3.5.5. I'd like to get window shadows and translucency, but in Control Center -> Desktop ->Window Behavior -> Translucency tab, it says that my alpha channel support is not available. I've got both Option "Composite" "Enable" and Option "RenderAccel" "true" in their respective locations. Any ideas? |
| 18:32.26 | MrRagga | Desktop&Preview Pager still shows the opned applications |
| 18:33.44 | MrRagga | i fixed it! ;) the taskbar applet has been removed ;) |
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| 18:37.11 | jeffto | Hi everybody |
| 18:37.17 | jeffto | I've a simple question |
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| 18:37.51 | jeffto | where I can find the file where is saved session? |
| 18:38.09 | Renze | jeffto: ~/.kde/share/config/session/ |
| 18:38.17 | jeffto | thankyou |
| 18:38.30 | Bsims | When I clicked on accept for a yahoo cam feed in IM, kopete tried to load another users cam who wasn't even online... any idea what is up? |
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| 18:39.25 | narutosan | problem with yahoo not with kopete |
| 18:39.47 | Bsims | narutosan: Heh about par for the course... any workarounds? |
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| 18:44.22 | AntiClimacus | I'm looking for a widget that show my system's load and resources usage. what do you recommend? |
| 18:44.49 | MetaBookfoziS | kcpu |
| 18:44.56 | MetaBookfoziS | is there one, for kicker |
| 18:45.05 | MetaBookfoziS | i'm not sure tat is kcpu |
| 18:46.20 | Bsims | AntiClimacus: one of several superkaramba widgets do that I think |
| 18:46.34 | MetaBookfoziS | AntiClimacus > kcpuload, that is a kicker applet. |
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| 18:48.20 | AntiClimacus | MetaBookfoziS: I use gentoo, cant find that in portage... |
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| 18:49.38 | MetaBookfoziS | yep, i found that in edgy repos. |
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| 18:50.37 | MetaBookfoziS | then, i recommend http://kde-apps.org |
| 18:50.40 | MetaBookfoziS | for example: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257 |
| 18:50.46 | JohnMS | How do you rotate an image frame in KWord? |
| 18:50.58 | MetaBookfoziS | but it has thousands of system monitoring app. |
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| 18:51.41 | MetaBookfoziS | as i see, it has gentoo ebuild |
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| 18:53.09 | elyon225 | Right now, when I lock sessions #1, the login screen is shown and a different user can login. When user #2 logs out, how can I make KDE return to the login screen instead of returning to session #1? |
| 18:53.13 | AntiClimacus | [ Results for search key : kcpuload ] |
| 18:53.13 | AntiClimacus | [ Applications found : 0 ] |
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| 18:56.04 | MetaBookfoziS | elyon225 > you need to run two kdms |
| 18:56.18 | MetaBookfoziS | because, ithink the second session is only a new x session |
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| 18:59.09 | elyon225 | MetaBookfoziS: Where can I go to learn how to set that up? |
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| 19:01.27 | MetaBookfoziS | hmm, i dunno. i know simple way, kdm isn'T allows you to start up multipleinstances from it |
| 19:01.38 | MetaBookfoziS | i recommend google with the knowledge of: |
| 19:01.53 | MetaBookfoziS | kdm settings: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc |
| 19:02.04 | MetaBookfoziS | start kdm: /etc/init.d/kdm start|restart|etc |
| 19:02.28 | MetaBookfoziS | . |
| 19:03.31 | AntiClimacus | where do I setup these alternate docks? I have ksmoothdock, kooldock... |
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| 19:04.11 | MetaBookfoziS | you can install thats from kde-apps, then you can start with `ksmoothdock` or `kooldock` |
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| 19:08.49 | libben | how can i get teh system:/media Home button back again to my panel? |
| 19:08.56 | trench- | having an unusual issue here when i try to highlight several things with left-click drag, either on desktop or dirs..running gentoo/kde3.5.6.. here's a screeny: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1039/screenshotja7.png |
| 19:09.09 | libben | ive tried to add the home button, but i cannot manage it to go to media folder |
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| 19:09.25 | MetaBookfoziS | libben > rightclick on panel (kicker) and add applet |
| 19:09.29 | MetaBookfoziS | that button is an applet |
| 19:09.37 | MetaBookfoziS | if i understanded what you wants. |
| 19:10.42 | libben | hmm its not the same |
| 19:10.52 | libben | but i get system button instead that lists media atleast |
| 19:10.56 | libben | all good anyway |
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| 19:11.12 | MetaBookfoziS | okay |
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| 19:11.57 | MetaBookfoziS | trench- > that is a beryl bug |
| 19:11.59 | MetaBookfoziS | not kde. |
| 19:12.08 | MetaBookfoziS | imho |
| 19:12.26 | MetaBookfoziS | or have you that without beryl too? |
| 19:12.31 | trench- | MetaBookfoziS, unfortunately, at first i thought it was |
| 19:12.40 | trench- | but i'm on kwin right now |
| 19:12.52 | trench- | and no change |
| 19:13.21 | trench- | the annoying part is, it doesn't go away until an item is added/removed from desktop or konqueror |
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| 19:13.37 | trench- | that dark highlight stays |
| 19:13.39 | MetaBookfoziS | try set in kcotnrol -> apperance -> style ->effects tab |
| 19:13.50 | MetaBookfoziS | first, try disable rubberbanding effect |
| 19:13.50 | trench- | instead of just the nrmal highlight shade |
| 19:14.05 | trench- | gotcha...will try that |
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| 19:16.39 | trench- | well, i even disabled the gui effects all together |
| 19:17.20 | MetaBookfoziS | and? |
| 19:17.20 | MetaBookfoziS | still buggy? |
| 19:17.24 | trench- | same |
| 19:17.40 | trench- | tried a different widget style, same effect |
| 19:17.56 | MetaBookfoziS | If others in this room ahven'T got other idea, i recommend a bugreport, i'm haven't got other idea |
| 19:18.26 | trench- | thx for your pointers though MetaBookfoziS ...sure appreciated it :) |
| 19:18.54 | trench- | any idea however which app that might be ? kwin perhaps? or kdesktop? |
| 19:18.59 | MetaBookfoziS | you are welcome:) |
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| 19:19.06 | MetaBookfoziS | kdesktop, imho |
| 19:19.29 | trench- | cool...i'll see if i'm missing something for it... |
| 19:19.46 | MetaBookfoziS | but if that is the same hack that windows uses sometimes, that is possible kwin... (Selectin is atransaprent border-less window) |
| 19:20.04 | trench- | this happened upgrading to 3.5.6...but it's a very minor issue compared to my major issues with 3.5.5 |
| 19:20.29 | Sho_ | trench-: Try not loading the COMPOSITE extension |
| 19:20.51 | trench- | in xorg.conf, i assume? |
| 19:21.00 | trench- | i'll give that a try as well |
| 19:21.11 | Sho_ | yup |
| 19:21.13 | artur123 | I have problem with mounting USB hardware (pendrives, card readers, cameras), I have latest KDE and when i press button open in new window KDE displays error (Bad URL) |
| 19:21.19 | artur123 | What should i do? |
| 19:21.27 | MetaBookfoziS | krusader? |
| 19:21.43 | artur123 | no konqueror ;/ |
| 19:21.46 | MetaBookfoziS | have you messed with file-associations? |
| 19:21.58 | MetaBookfoziS | oh , then i don'T know. (krusder's feature that message sometimes:)) |
| 19:22.14 | artur123 | what schould i do with it? |
| 19:22.24 | MetaBookfoziS | try open konqueror |
| 19:22.28 | MetaBookfoziS | and type: "media:/" |
| 19:22.29 | artur123 | yes and ? |
| 19:22.38 | MetaBookfoziS | and enter to your device |
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| 19:22.56 | MetaBookfoziS | it's a workaround only, to acces your device... |
| 19:23.04 | artur123 | in media isnt usbdisk |
| 19:23.11 | MetaBookfoziS | not /media |
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| 19:23.14 | MetaBookfoziS | media:/ |
| 19:23.16 | aep | 'lo |
| 19:23.20 | MetaBookfoziS | not the same |
| 19:23.32 | aep | is there a way to prevent kde form starting up on the second display :0.1 |
| 19:23.45 | thiago | aep: take one of your monitors off |
| 19:23.57 | artur123 | yes in media is "removable devide 128 MB" but the folder is empty |
| 19:24.03 | MetaBookfoziS | aep, when you are on ttyp: export DISPLAY=0.1 |
| 19:24.12 | MetaBookfoziS | p- |
| 19:24.14 | aep | wha? |
| 19:24.23 | narutosan | artur123 mount the drive |
| 19:24.27 | aep | i want kde NOT to start up |
| 19:24.28 | narutosan | right click |
| 19:24.37 | narutosan | did u mount it? |
| 19:24.45 | MetaBookfoziS | oh, sry:) |
| 19:24.47 | thiago | aep: like I said, either disconnect it, or configure X not to use it |
| 19:24.56 | aep | man, i need thats creen |
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| 19:25.09 | MetaBookfoziS | then, just start up a simple x |
| 19:25.15 | MetaBookfoziS | without kdm and kde |
| 19:25.29 | artur123 | if i click right mouse & mount it takes no effect |
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| 19:26.24 | artur123 | is the polish IRC kde support? I am a polish and my english is bad and beginner :P |
| 19:26.43 | MetaBookfoziS | not poor as mine;) |
| 19:27.10 | artur123 | i cant mount the drive |
| 19:27.17 | artur123 | ;/ |
| 19:27.30 | artur123 | i clicked mount and no effects |
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| 19:29.35 | narutosan | check if the USB is really working |
| 19:29.35 | narutosan | go and mount the drive with the bash |
| 19:29.36 | artur123 | yes it works when i mount it in terminal |
| 19:29.42 | narutosan | oh |
| 19:29.56 | artur123 | when i type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb it works |
| 19:30.17 | artur123 | but i must make /media/usb folder manually |
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| 19:31.02 | narutosan | ok but then after the mount does GUI work?? |
| 19:31.07 | artur123 | what packets are conforming with automatic usb mount? |
| 19:31.12 | artur123 | yes |
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| 19:32.06 | artur123 | when i mount it manually i can see the drive in krusader and konqueror |
| 19:32.35 | artur123 | but i won't mount pendrive manually everytime ;/ |
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| 19:33.28 | narutosan | is this the first time it is happening |
| 19:33.28 | narutosan | ?? |
| 19:34.05 | artur123 | yes |
| 19:34.17 | artur123 | in the past it works normal |
| 19:34.35 | narutosan | which distro are u using |
| 19:34.53 | artur123 | kubuntu |
| 19:35.05 | narutosan | kernel?? |
| 19:35.16 | artur123 | one moment |
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| 19:36.06 | artur123 | 2.6.17-10-386 |
| 19:36.34 | narutosan | oops |
| 19:36.37 | artur123 | ? |
| 19:36.45 | narutosan | there shouldnt be any problems |
| 19:36.57 | artur123 | ehh... |
| 19:36.57 | narutosan | restart u r kde |
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| 19:37.36 | artur123 | that do nothing ;/ |
| 19:37.51 | narutosan | did u try?? |
| 19:38.11 | artur123 | the problem is from one month ;/ |
| 19:38.25 | artur123 | i have no ideas ;/ |
| 19:38.29 | narutosan | hmmmmmmmm.......... |
| 19:38.34 | artur123 | can i reinstall some packets? |
| 19:39.25 | artur123 | narutosan: some ideas? |
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| 19:40.18 | narutosan | well try editing /etc/fstab |
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| 19:41.09 | narutosan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.17 | narutosan | just add this |
| 19:41.58 | artur123 | ok |
| 19:42.08 | artur123 | must i make any folder? |
| 19:42.13 | artur123 | directory* |
| 19:42.37 | narutosan | hey just type |
| 19:42.43 | narutosan | vi /etc/fstab |
| 19:42.58 | artur123 | i pferer nano :P |
| 19:43.05 | narutosan | you can find various drives out there |
| 19:43.07 | narutosan | edit |
| 19:43.08 | artur123 | ok i writed |
| 19:43.21 | narutosan | save |
| 19:43.23 | narutosan | exit |
| 19:43.24 | artur123 | ok and |
| 19:43.25 | artur123 | ? |
| 19:43.39 | narutosan | check now |
| 19:44.26 | narutosan | if not check this etc/ivmconfigactions.xml |
| 19:44.28 | artur123 | i have error ;/ |
| 19:44.33 | narutosan | what?? |
| 19:44.41 | artur123 | Bad URL |
| 19:44.53 | artur123 | when i click open in new window |
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| 19:45.47 | artur123 | etc/ivmconfigactions.xml i havent this file |
| 19:46.18 | jelly | Hi! Is this possible: I have a konqueror window and a terminal open. In the terminal, I ssh to another machine and run konqueror there, then drag files between local and remote folders? |
| 19:46.38 | narutosan | no |
| 19:46.40 | narutosan | !! |
| 19:46.47 | sparrw | can i have a window with an alpha transparent section in kde? |
| 19:46.53 | jelly | pity |
| 19:47.29 | victor_ | jelly: fish://IP_of_other machine |
| 19:47.43 | victor_ | that will prompt you with SSH login, and then you can drag and drop |
| 19:47.45 | jelly | victor_: I know that. Or sshfs. |
| 19:48.01 | victor_ | then why would you ask about doing it in a terminal? |
| 19:48.04 | artur123 | narutosan: any ideas? |
| 19:48.25 | narutosan | well no! |
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| 19:48.32 | jelly | victor_: but it's more logical (for me at least) to log in to the remote machine, do work, and sometimes move some files. |
| 19:49.07 | victor_ | try scp then. :) |
| 19:49.30 | jelly | scp really sucks. I'm using rsync at present. |
| 19:49.52 | jelly | Wonder what'd it take to make it work. |
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| 19:51.45 | victor_ | i don't even understand what you're asking. you want to drag and drop between two konqueror windows. that is what fish is for. |
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| 19:54.48 | Sho_ | (generally, use sftp:// rather than fish:// if possible) |
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| 20:03.50 | jelly | victor_: yes, but fish uses a separate ssh connection |
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| 20:08.08 | hjtv3x | hello all together. Does anyone know if its possible to edit the context menu (i mean the one which appears when clicking with the right mouse button on the desktop)? And if applicable, how? |
| 20:08.11 | sredna | PhilOut: Ping |
| 20:08.50 | thiago | hjtv3x: have you tried to configure the desktop before? |
| 20:08.57 | delusions | hi, why does kmail still report spam status and show the raw html even if i clicked the trust button, ( not spam ) |
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| 20:09.37 | thiago | KMail doesn't check for spam |
| 20:09.41 | thiago | it's an external tool that does |
| 20:09.43 | thiago | which one are you using? |
| 20:09.55 | smithbone | is there a more specific channel for help with building knetworkmanager? |
| 20:09.57 | delusions | spamassassin |
| 20:10.04 | lefti | hi, works konqueror "open in tab" in kde 3.5.6 same as in 3.5.5 or is that crappy behaviour repaired? |
| 20:10.24 | thiago | delusions: are you teaching spamassassin ? |
| 20:10.26 | delusions | then what should i do to trust a sender and see the normal html code |
| 20:10.39 | thiago | lefti: Open in Tab works |
| 20:10.49 | thiago | lefti: as far as I know, it's never been broken. |
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| 20:11.19 | hjtv3x | thiago: oh, thx. didn't find the option in the past - i think you mean desktop -> behavior -> mouse button actions, right? |
| 20:11.19 | delusions | thiago: showing the raw html is not spamassassings work i think, btw, before i installed spamassassin there was the spam status in mails |
| 20:11.31 | eNTi | hi. i'm getting a lot of "kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/mplayer.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-fli'" type of messages, when i start a kde app (amarok) from command line. |
| 20:11.34 | lefti | thiago: if konqueror and calling aplling are on different .... |
| 20:11.44 | lefti | application |
| 20:11.48 | eNTi | i've recently upgraded to 3.5.6 |
| 20:12.01 | lefti | different workspaces |
| 20:12.03 | delusions | hjtv3x: thats a quick google -> http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/3156 |
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| 20:14.16 | hjtv3x | thiago: bad thing there is that i just can create and customize new ones, but I cannot enhance the desktop menu. |
| 20:14.23 | sredna | canllaith: Ping |
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| 20:29.14 | PhilOut | lefti: you can get the behaviour that (I assume) you want with a script and a little dcop |
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| 20:29.37 | PhilOut | eNTi: harmless warnings |
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| 20:31.37 | PhilRod | sredna: pong |
| 20:31.52 | sredna | Hi PhilRod :) |
| 20:31.59 | PhilRod | hiya :-) |
| 20:32.17 | jnmbk | hi, I couldn't run this, it gives a strange error message, any ideas?: konsole --noclose --notabbar --nomenubar -T 'listing...' -e 'ls ..' |
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| 20:33.33 | sredna | PhilRod: We were discussing if 'session' is actually correct for kate sessions, christoph suggested 'workspace' as an alternative. Kate sessions contains a list of open files and their configurations and some application configuration such as active plugins and various GUI stuff? |
| 20:33.56 | PhilRod | jnmbk: what's the error message? |
| 20:34.03 | canllaith | sredna: pong |
| 20:34.14 | sredna | PhilRod: I am not sure enough in english to decide what is mostly correct, though I believe 'session' works best |
| 20:34.20 | jnmbk | PhilRod: it's in my local :) |
| 20:34.43 | PhilRod | sredna: I'd say "session", but I'm not too familiar with the feature |
| 20:34.50 | PhilRod | jnmbk: can you translate it please? |
| 20:34.51 | jnmbk | something about PTY |
| 20:35.08 | sredna | PhilRod: Thank you for your opinion :) |
| 20:35.10 | jnmbk | konsole can't open a PTY |
| 20:35.26 | jnmbk | (pseudo teletype) |
| 20:35.28 | PhilRod | is that the whole error? |
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| 20:35.47 | jnmbk | two more sentences |
| 20:36.10 | PhilRod | what do they say? |
| 20:36.14 | jnmbk | but I don't think that one is the cause |
| 20:36.32 | jnmbk | this one works: konsole --noclose --notabbar --nomenubar -T 'listing...' -e ls |
| 20:37.58 | lefti | PhilRod: sure, i've wrote that script, but it's ugly ... |
| 20:38.11 | jnmbk | PhilRod: did you try running it (the command I said first) |
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| 20:39.06 | PhilRod | jnmbk: just tried it. Same error |
| 20:40.11 | PhilRod | it's because the command has multiple 'words' |
| 20:40.28 | canllaith | sredna: ? |
| 20:40.29 | PhilRod | eg, this fails: konsole -e 'ls /home/phil' |
| 20:40.47 | jnmbk | so I have to give a one word command |
| 20:41.04 | sredna | Hi canllaith, I'm going to ask you the same q I asked PhilRod: |
| 20:41.11 | sredna | canllaith: We were discussing if 'session' is actually correct for kate sessions, christoph suggested 'workspace' as an alternative. Kate sessions contains a list of open files and their configurations and some application configuration such as active plugins and various GUI stuff? |
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| 20:41.21 | sredna | canllaith: I am not sure enough in english to decide what is mostly correct, though I believe 'session' works best |
| 20:41.33 | sredna | canllaith: And how are you btw? |
| 20:41.45 | canllaith | sredna: session is certainly fine, workspace is also fine. I think the already existing use of session works and there is no compelling reason to change |
| 20:41.56 | smithbone | anybody here familiar with knetworkmanager? |
| 20:42.01 | canllaith | smithbone: a little |
| 20:42.05 | canllaith | sredna: and I'm great thanks :) |
| 20:42.17 | sredna | canllaith: Thank you for helping :) |
| 20:42.33 | PhilRod | jnmbk: ah, it runs that command instead of a shell, so perhaps you need to make it run a shell too |
| 20:42.40 | smithbone | canllaith: I'm trying to build svn head using the script from the webpage but it puking |
| 20:42.55 | canllaith | smithbone: there are some suse specific paths in there, is it puking 'cause it can't find stuff in /opt/kde3 ? |
| 20:43.09 | canllaith | If so, you need to change that for your distribution by grepping for those paths and changing them |
| 20:43.19 | smithbone | unsermake install |
| 20:43.19 | smithbone | ERROR:No Makefile present in: autom4te.cache/! |
| 20:43.26 | canllaith | sredna: hah, it's my new favourite toy. The lens I have on it now feels like a secret treasure too |
| 20:43.32 | canllaith | smithbone: ah. Have you run unsermake -f Makefile.cvs first? |
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| 20:43.44 | PhilRod | jnmbk: actually, just read 'konsole --help'. You should be able to work it out from there :-) |
| 20:44.00 | smithbone | canllaith: no I have not.. I was running the big script that I found on the webpage. Let me try that. |
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| 20:44.14 | canllaith | Hrm. I don't think that script worked and I think I ignored it. |
| 20:44.43 | sredna | canllaith: Is it much better than the 350? I kinda expect the 350 to turn up cheap on various sites for used gear, so it may even become possible for me to get one sometime.. |
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| 20:45.41 | canllaith | sredna: The main features over the 350d is that it uses a bigger LCD screen on the bag, is 10MP instead of 8.2 and has a fancy sensor 'shake' to clean it of dust automatically (which is not perfect, but it does help) |
| 20:45.55 | canllaith | So no, there is nothing the 400D can do that the 350D cannot as far as taking photographs goes :) |
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| 20:46.11 | sredna | canllaith: Good to hear for me :) |
| 20:46.25 | canllaith | I was thinking also of finding a 350D cheap ;) |
| 20:46.39 | PhilRod | jnmbk: you don't need the quotes round the command and its arg |
| 20:46.48 | canllaith | but I couldn't find it for a reasonable price. You may have more luck. |
| 20:47.13 | sredna | Not yet, I have been looking for it a few times |
| 20:47.22 | sredna | But I think it will come |
| 20:47.32 | canllaith | and I was in a hurry ;) I had saved my money and wanted to buy something RIGHT NOW sort of thing ;) |
| 20:47.45 | jnmbk | PhilRod: thanks :) |
| 20:48.48 | sredna | canllaith: I know that feeling ;) |
| 20:49.05 | canllaith | I have been wanting to buy a DSLR for 18 months now, so I feel I waited patiently long enough ;) |
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| 20:54.48 | smithbone | canllaith: So I have the cvs that the script pulled and I've run unsermake -f Makefile.cvs but I'm unsure of what i need to feed ./configure |
| 20:55.12 | canllaith | smithbone: probably ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` is sufficient |
| 20:55.20 | canllaith | (note the backticks) |
| 20:55.22 | Tm_T | canllaith: Ouch! |
| 20:55.23 | smithbone | canllaith: ok thanks.. i ll try |
| 20:55.43 | manuhack | hi, does anyone know where to set in kcontrol so that I can move the window to other desktop by dragging it to the right or left, like in xfce? |
| 20:56.33 | qupada | manuhack: desktop, window behavior, advanced, active desktop borders, "only when moving windows" |
| 20:57.13 | smithbone | canllaith: heh... Same error. |
| 20:57.36 | smithbone | small flood. |
| 20:57.41 | smithbone | configure: creating ./config.status |
| 20:57.45 | smithbone | wrong input (flag != 4) at admin/conf.change.pl line 117, <> line 1059. |
| 20:57.45 | smithbone | Good - your configure finished. Start make now |
| 20:57.45 | smithbone | cd . && /bin/bash ./config.status Makefile |
| 20:57.45 | smithbone | config.status: creating Makefile |
| 20:57.45 | smithbone | ERROR:No Makefile present in: autom4te.cache/! |
| 20:57.45 | smithbone | make: *** [all] Error 1 |
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| 21:01.16 | thiago | hjtv3x: yes, that's it. |
| 21:01.26 | thiago | hjtv3x: if you want to customise the default ones, you have to edit the source code. |
| 21:02.38 | canllaith | smithbone: I don't know, but I strongly suspect that's broken code. I've always needed to do a lot of hacking to get knetworkmanager to compile outside of suse. You haven't mentioned yet what distribution you use |
| 21:03.37 | hjtv3x | thiago: sadly, i'm not a programmer.... but thx for your help. |
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| 21:09.55 | smithbone | canllaith: kubuntu. |
| 21:10.17 | canllaith | smithbone: Why are you building from svn instead of using kubuntu packages? |
| 21:10.36 | smithbone | canllaith: because the fiesty package is broken with my setup |
| 21:10.39 | canllaith | If you go take a look at packages.ubuntu.org (or is it .com? It's something like that) you can see that kubuntu have patched knetworkmanager to make it compile on kubuntu..... |
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| 21:11.21 | smithbone | canllaith: ah.. Ok I'll go study what they did. |
| 21:12.14 | canllaith | I did get it to compile on kubuntu a while ago (6 months?) and it was quite difficult |
| 21:13.02 | smithbone | canllaith: Thanks for the info. A 2nd opinion that it was the code and not just me misunderstanding the build setup is what I needed. |
| 21:13.42 | canllaith | It could have changed of course, but I do remember that it was *very* suse specific and hard to get to build on any other KDE. |
| 21:13.49 | canllaith | So no, it's probably not you. |
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| 21:15.07 | smithbone | I've got a suse developer type friend I can ask. or pehaps I can pull the debian source package and build it that way. |
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| 21:15.35 | tafsen | Is there Gimp-alike QT program? |
| 21:15.41 | Renze | krita |
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| 21:15.48 | Jucato | better, there's Krita :P |
| 21:15.54 | Renze | snap |
| 21:15.57 | tafsen | Does that support psd files? |
| 21:16.04 | Sho_ | tafsen: To a limited degree, yes. |
| 21:16.31 | tafsen | Sho_, are there any plans for improving the psd support? |
| 21:17.00 | Jucato | #koffice people would know best |
| 21:17.03 | Sho_ | tafsen: Possibly, though I doubt it's a priority. |
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| 21:17.35 | qupada | the one thing i'd like to see in krita is gimp-like graphics tablet support |
| 21:17.38 | Sho_ | tafsen: Supporting PSD fully means implementing equivalents of a large amount of Photoshop's functionality, which is still pending in many ways. |
| 21:17.45 | EvilGuru | Can anyone help me to get mail sending working in Kmail, as well... it is not the most user friendly of applications |
| 21:18.43 | EvilGuru | It also seems to not want to give me any kind of error message |
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| 21:20.26 | tafsen | Is krita included in a package? |
| 21:20.37 | Jucato | depends on your distro |
| 21:20.44 | Jucato | it's part of KOffice |
| 21:20.48 | tafsen | ok |
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| 21:22.33 | manuhack | qupada: thanks a lot, just went away |
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| 21:23.50 | libben | i have to nics in my box.. what kde app do i download so i can see them and change their IPadresses ? |
| 21:24.28 | MinceR | iirc you can set them up in the kde control center |
| 21:24.51 | canllaith | libben: try knetworkmanager if you have it |
| 21:24.57 | canllaith | in your distribution's package repositories |
| 21:25.40 | libben | that one dont help me at all actually |
| 21:25.44 | libben | have it installed |
| 21:25.54 | libben | but i cant see any nics when i open it |
| 21:26.37 | canllaith | libben: what distribution are you using? |
| 21:26.45 | libben | debian etch |
| 21:26.48 | canllaith | The best linux networking tool I've used is ifconfig at the command line. |
| 21:26.53 | canllaith | Do your nics show up in ifconfig ? |
| 21:26.55 | cb400f | libben: do you want to renew dhcp or do you want to use static ip? |
| 21:28.08 | libben | canllaith: i see both... i surf on my eth1 and want to enable eth0 and asign it static ip so it will work with my xbox and samba |
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| 21:28.32 | canllaith | I don't know of any KDE tool that can do this, although there might be something on kde-apps.org |
| 21:28.43 | canllaith | The gnome networking tool will, if you also have gnome installed |
| 21:28.49 | libben | well, just tell me the hardcore way |
| 21:29.00 | libben | wich file to hunt and edit? |
| 21:29.03 | canllaith | ifconfig eth0 up 0.0.0.0 |
| 21:29.11 | canllaith | where 0.0.0.0 is the ip you want |
| 21:29.17 | canllaith | if you want it to do it on boot, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 21:29.32 | libben | well i want it to be perm |
| 21:29.38 | libben | so i should add it for boot |
| 21:29.49 | canllaith | put it in /etc/network/interfaces, you can model it after the eth0 entry |
| 21:29.53 | canllaith | erm, eth1 |
| 21:30.15 | libben | what does the up do in ifconfig? anotherway of saying ifup eth0 ? and asign it ip? |
| 21:30.21 | canllaith | no |
| 21:30.37 | canllaith | ifup is a distribution specific script that takes the configuration you've put in your distribution specific configuration file |
| 21:30.45 | canllaith | ifconfig is the underlying command that ifup uses to manipulate the interfaces |
| 21:30.58 | canllaith | if you want to know more about how debian does this, try asking in a debian support forum. I'm afraid there isn't a KDE tool to do what you want. |
| 21:33.39 | libben | canllaith: is this correct ? http://rafb.net/p/ACTSQq94.html |
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| 21:35.59 | canllaith | libben: looks ok to me |
| 21:36.24 | libben | well, i dont know how the static setup should look like,.. but it look proper.. |
| 21:36.43 | libben | what do i do now? ifup eth0 ? and try to connect to it? |
| 21:37.07 | canllaith | try it |
| 21:37.15 | libben | yeah i will... thxs for the help |
| 21:37.32 | libben | kde should really get a proper network gui ;) |
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| 21:49.07 | keknehv_ | Is there any way to have the startkde script do something, such as launching a window manager other than kde, if I don't have root access to the system? |
| 21:49.10 | sredna | libben_: The problem is generalizing that, so it's often left to the distros. |
| 21:49.25 | sredna | ~KDEWM |
| 21:49.29 | apt | You can change the window manager used by KDE with the $KDEWM environment variable. See http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
| 21:50.41 | sredna | keknehv_: Also, you can have files sourced from the startkde script by placing them in KDEDIR/env/*.sh or KDEDIR/shutdown/* , where ~/.kde is a KDEDIR |
| 21:50.59 | keknehv_ | Thanks, that's very helpful |
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| 21:54.01 | troolz | hi |
| 21:54.41 | sredna | Hello |
| 21:54.45 | troolz | I am extremely disapointed... there isn't any program to burn into TWO dvds at the same time? K3b DOES recognize both but I can't select both at the same time |
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| 21:54.50 | troolz | this shit sucks |
| 21:55.01 | troolz | this guy is giving me the hardest time for this shit |
| 21:55.22 | qupada | what's to stop you running two instances of k3b? |
| 21:55.27 | pinotree | troolz: please respect for other's people work |
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| 21:59.27 | keknehv_ | Thanks, that worked perfectly |
| 22:00.29 | libben__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.16 | smithbone | I just read the channel desc. Sorry I flooded earlier. |
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| 22:01.33 | libben__ | i was thinking of just doing chown on /media/mountedfolder like this.. chown libben:root /media/mountedfolder |
| 22:02.10 | sredna | libben__: Edit your fstab, or let hald handle it ;) |
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| 22:03.37 | troolz | I've tried two instances of k3b and doesn't come up |
| 22:04.23 | libben__ | how do i set it up with hald? |
| 22:04.43 | sredna | troolz: You can have multiple projects open in k3b, if that can't handle it, file a bug report |
| 22:05.29 | sredna | libben__: That is beoynd my skill, udev/hald configuraiton should be set up by your distribution, and otherwise start reading manuals |
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| 22:06.06 | sredna | libben__: Udev is not too hard, but getting hald to work and play along with kde might be tricky |
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| 22:06.55 | libben__ | so cant i just chown libben:root /media/mymountedmedia? |
| 22:07.12 | libben__ | or everytime i plug it in it will become root mounted again? |
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| 22:13.45 | libben__ | http://www.break.com/index/robot_arm_ride.html |
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| 22:16.41 | libben__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAGZiE45FOc |
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| 22:19.34 | nitro4ce | hi. how do u enter a password to unlock a rar archive using ark? |
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| 22:21.48 | nitro4ce | is that possible? |
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| 22:22.22 | Jucato | nitro4ce: not sure if possible in ark. you could try the comman line instead |
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| 22:23.53 | nitro4ce | jucato: unrar ---- ? |
| 22:23.57 | nitro4ce | jucato: what else? |
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| 22:24.20 | Jucato | unrar x <filename> |
| 22:24.33 | nitro4ce | x is the password? |
| 22:24.51 | qupada | nitro4ce: no |
| 22:24.54 | qupada | x = eXtract |
| 22:25.01 | qupada | it should ask you for the password |
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| 22:26.12 | nitro4ce | ok thanks |
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| 22:29.40 | troolz | two instances of K3B work? |
| 22:29.52 | troolz | maaaaan! that would solve everything! |
| 22:29.59 | troolz | but I wasn't able to do it |
| 22:30.09 | troolz | I double click and nothing happens... |
| 22:30.13 | troolz | is supposed to work? |
| 22:30.24 | troolz | this friend is killing me over that |
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| 22:30.49 | pinotree | nope, k3b is a single instance application |
| 22:31.00 | troolz | DAMN!! :'-( |
| 22:31.01 | pinotree | there can be only one open |
| 22:31.24 | troolz | so how on earth am I supposed to burn directly into TWO DVD burners simulaneously? |
| 22:31.46 | qupada | the command line? |
| 22:32.48 | benJIman | start with --nofork |
| 22:33.05 | Jucato | there can only be one... |
| 22:33.25 | benJIman | k3b --nofork will let you start multiple, as with any "single instance" kde app |
| 22:34.10 | pinotree | benJIman: nope |
| 22:34.16 | benJIman | worksforme |
| 22:34.24 | troolz | m.. no/yes/no/yes |
| 22:34.34 | pinotree | it's always one instance, just the first handles the new instance requests |
| 22:34.48 | troolz | benJIman, will that work for on-the-fly burning? |
| 22:35.07 | benJIman | I don't see why not, try it and see |
| 22:35.11 | troolz | pinotree, ok but it can burn into two right? |
| 22:35.16 | troolz | with nofork? |
| 22:35.26 | pinotree | no idea, i don't have two burners |
| 22:36.42 | troolz | should I try k3b --nofork? |
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| 22:38.03 | SimAtWrk | upgraind to kdevelop 3.4 right now! |
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| 22:51.00 | Macroni | Are there any nice kde network monitoring applications |
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| 22:51.46 | pinotree | knemo |
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| 22:53.03 | walling | Can I do something about KPowersave crashing all the time? Some times it will start and always using --force-acpi-check. |
| 22:53.29 | bram85 | Macroni: it's not really clear what you exactly want if knemo does not match your expectations |
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| 22:56.02 | pettern | Kde has something that shows a bug report to the user and suggests solutions, right? Whats the name of this application/feature? |
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| 22:57.02 | pinotree | ? |
| 22:57.31 | pinotree | kde has an application that simply interfaces to the bug tracker system of kde |
| 22:58.04 | mathieu_ | kbugbuster |
| 22:58.16 | mathieu_ | or something |
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| 22:58.33 | pinotree | yeah, but it does not suggest solutions... |
| 22:59.37 | pettern | ok |
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| 23:00.58 | moi1392 | hello, lists.kde.org is down ? |
| 23:01.05 | PhilRod | yes |
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| 23:01.11 | PhilRod | well, it was for me a couple of hours ago |
| 23:01.25 | pettern | im making a list of applications for linux and osx that has almost the same features as thos that are "new" with Vista. At the moment im just missing two of them |
| 23:01.41 | moi1392 | PhilRod: ok :/ thanks |
| 23:01.50 | Jucato | I couldn't access lists.kde.org since 8 hours ago |
| 23:02.42 | pettern | so if anyone can suggest something that is pretty equal to "System Performance Assesment" and "windows sideshow" please tell me:) |
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| 23:04.34 | XVampireX | Vista suckz |
| 23:04.43 | pettern | i know |
| 23:05.02 | XVampireX | pettern: What's system performance assesment? Telling you if something will run on your computer? |
| 23:05.08 | XVampireX | windows sideshow? What's that? |
| 23:05.30 | pettern | System Performance Assessment is a benchmark used by Windows Vista to regulate the system for optimum performance. Games can take advantage of this feature, reading the data produced by this benchmark in order to fine-tune the game details. The benchmark tests CPU, RAM, Graphics acceleration (2D and 3D) and disk access.[10] |
| 23:05.52 | pettern | Windows SideShow: Enables the auxiliary displays on newer laptops or on supported Windows Mobile devices. It is meant to be used to display Device gadgets while the computer is on or off. |
| 23:05.55 | XVampireX | It's related to the game API's |
| 23:06.16 | XVampireX | something like SDL would have to implement it |
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| 23:06.39 | pettern | but at the moment you dont know any application that does it? |
| 23:06.39 | XVampireX | the second one, I still have no idea what it is |
| 23:06.48 | XVampireX | pettern: Nope |
| 23:07.00 | pettern | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_SideShow |
| 23:07.55 | XVampireX | pettern: That would be kernel related |
| 23:08.28 | XVampireX | but it would be certainly nice for KDE4 |
| 23:08.46 | XVampireX | pettern: Best bet, file a wish for it in bugs.kde.org |
| 23:09.04 | XVampireX | and also for the kernel, it has to support these displays |
| 23:09.40 | XVampireX | If you know how to program, join in :) |
| 23:10.52 | NamShub | System Performance Assessment == bogomips |
| 23:10.53 | NamShub | ;) |
| 23:11.51 | XVampireX | Perhaps |
| 23:11.58 | XVampireX | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips |
| 23:12.07 | pettern | XVampireX: the reason i ask is because im making a list to prove that most of the "new" features in vista is already implemented on other operatingsystems. And i know how to program, but i have enough other projects at the moment:) |
| 23:12.17 | pettern | will take a look at it |
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| 23:12.44 | XVampireX | pettern: Don't think there is Windows SideShow in either operating systems (Linux or OS X) |
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| 23:12.59 | XVampireX | You will definitely need to file a wish |
| 23:13.11 | pettern | ok |
| 23:13.16 | NamShub | errr that was a joke |
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| 23:13.22 | pettern | :) |
| 23:13.39 | XVampireX | If developers don't know what you want, you'll never get it :P |
| 23:14.19 | pettern | http://pettern.org/blogg/Windows/vista.html?seemore=y <--thats my list at the moment. DonÃ't mint the text in norwegian:) |
| 23:14.25 | NamShub | sideshow will come in due time |
| 23:14.40 | NamShub | I know I havent seen any laptop with that display on sale yet |
| 23:14.56 | NamShub | and that would be the first step before a kernel hacker implements a driver |
| 23:15.37 | qupada | pettern: MythTV is one word, not two |
| 23:16.13 | pettern | oh, sorry:) |
| 23:16.26 | qupada | and for what it's worth, K3b has a lowercase b |
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| 23:16.43 | pettern | :) |
| 23:17.07 | XVampireX | k3b rocks |
| 23:17.18 | pettern | updated now |
| 23:17.29 | XVampireX | It's minor, but it's a problem, nonetheless |
| 23:18.01 | XVampireX | When I tell it to check after burn, it says error cannot find the burned file |
| 23:18.11 | qupada | 0.12.17 or 1.0_rc5 ? |
| 23:18.11 | XVampireX | I'm thinking it's due to mount |
| 23:18.12 | XVampireX | first |
| 23:18.21 | XVampireX | 0.12.17 |
| 23:18.31 | pettern | Got to get some sleep. good night everyone |
| 23:18.36 | qupada | try the other if you're in the mood for compiling it |
| 23:18.38 | XVampireX | good night |
| 23:18.44 | XVampireX | Nope, not in mood :D |
| 23:18.52 | XVampireX | Well it used to work! |
| 23:18.57 | XVampireX | I don't know what happened... |
| 23:19.12 | XVampireX | Oh, actually |
| 23:19.59 | XVampireX | after it finishes to burn, it ejects CD, then back, and only then it starts checking... I remember it didn't eject CD after burn... |
| 23:22.05 | XVampireX | "Do not eject medium after write process" |
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| 23:25.04 | degreseven | can anyone tell me how to get rid of the little info bubble that pops up when you mouse over something on the panel? |
| 23:26.00 | SimAtWrk | kdevelop 3.4 is taking a while to compile |
| 23:26.06 | SimAtWrk | it's making me wait |
| 23:26.07 | SimAtWrk | the stupid thing! |
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| 23:27.32 | mikearthur | is it just me, or does konqueror lie about where it searches for plugins |
| 23:27.33 | troolz | hi |
| 23:28.06 | troolz | I think the command "kde --nofork" to burn into TWO DVD burners simultaneuslyl isn't worth it, it's slow as hell |
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| 23:28.31 | Fenix-Dark | hey |
| 23:28.57 | troolz | but I did notice something, it read off one single FIFO buffer. Because the second instance the FIFO Buffer bar didn't progress |
| 23:29.13 | Fenix-Dark | if i upgrade to kde 3.5.6 from 3.5.5 will i have to reset any custom settings like wallpaper/translucency/theme |
| 23:29.34 | NamShub | Fenix-Dark: shouldn't |
| 23:29.42 | Fenix-Dark | ok |
| 23:29.48 | troolz | but the slow down is like is faster burning one by one |
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| 23:31.38 | ExElNeT_ | any idea why krusader opens rar files with ark and not with karc? |
| 23:32.01 | qupada | troolz: are the two burners on the same ide channel or different ones? |
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| 23:34.02 | qupada | because if you have two ide dvd writers on the same ata33 (udma2) bus, you'll saturate it long before they hit their top write speed |
| 23:39.12 | troolz | qupada, aha so I gotta separate those right? |
| 23:39.56 | qupada | well it might help, but i wouldn't guarantee it |
| 23:39.56 | troolz | is the hard drive ok to share one of the DVD BURNERS? |
| 23:40.03 | qupada | no |
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| 23:40.23 | qupada | you'll make it worse if you have an ata33 and an ata100/133 device on the same cable |
| 23:41.22 | troolz | so how can do this? The hard drive has to be somewhere |
| 23:41.59 | qupada | either buy a pci ata controller, buy a serial ata hard drive, or put up with it |
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| 23:57.47 | slyfox | Is there a known bug that when I send multiple files from Amarok to K3b, only 1 file appears in K3B ? |
| 23:57.55 | bmk789 | how do i disable the window name from showing when i hover over an application on the taskbar? |
| 23:59.50 | wohson | disable "show tooltips" for the panel |
| 23:59.53 | aseigo | slyfox: yeah, i've noticed that too.. dunno if it's on bugs.kde.org though.. haven't checked |
