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| 00:04.04 | Wesker | exist in konqueror any plugin like mplayer-plugin 4 firefox ? |
| 00:04.23 | Renze | kmplayer |
| 00:04.56 | Renze | install kmplayer, and konqueror will use it's kpart as a plugin |
| 00:05.16 | Wesker | ok |
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| 00:06.56 | vbgunz | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
| 00:07.22 | vbgunz | it seems obvious *but* why the emphasis in the topic? are people actually doing this? |
| 00:08.04 | bram85 | vbgunz: yes |
| 00:08.18 | bram85 | vbgunz: to check if their settings are messed up and want to start with a fresh setup |
| 00:08.36 | Renze | but they end up deleting their email and addressbook and stuff in the process |
| 00:08.46 | vbgunz | ahh |
| 00:09.11 | Jucato | and baskets, too |
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| 00:09.17 | vbgunz | the one problem I have is deleting root garbage out of my trash can... I still don't know how to do it effectively :( |
| 00:09.21 | Jucato | they almost deleted Renze, too... |
| 00:09.32 | vbgunz | heh |
| 00:09.42 | Renze | Jucato: no, they just threw me in the trash |
| 00:10.02 | bram85 | root garbage in your trash? how come? |
| 00:10.10 | Jucato | oh... so not in .kde but in .local... cruel persons... |
| 00:10.14 | vbgunz | anyhow, after a year on Gnome and 20+ days on KDE, I completely migrated over... I really cannot wait for KDE 4, sounds very good |
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| 00:11.28 | vbgunz | bram85: sometimes I might do something along the lines of build a deb say with sudo checkinstall... anyhow, it chowns and mods some of the files to root only. I can delete it or at least send it to the trash can *but* thereafter, actually emptying the trashcan becomes a problem... |
| 00:11.53 | Renze | silly debian |
| 00:12.30 | vbgunz | I can remember it was quite easy on Gnome. I had a .Trash folder in my root I could get rid of with sudo rm -fr ~/.Trash but not on KDE... it rarely happens but when it does, I haven't quite got the idiom down so it throws me for a loop :) |
| 00:12.40 | bram85 | the only thing i can think of to fix it is to run a cronjob as root with chown on your trash |
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| 00:12.53 | bram85 | lame, but hey, it's late :) |
| 00:12.58 | Renze | vbgunz: both gnome and kde use the freedesktop.org trash system now, afaik |
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| 00:14.50 | vbgunz | Renze: if I delete .Trash on Gnome, the folder will reappear automatically if I delete anything. On KDE, I remember deleting the .Trash folder and I couldn't delete anything until I actually recreated the folder... I don't know how to rm the contents of a folder *but* not the folder itself... this rarely happens but when it does, I think I might delete my ~/.kde ;) |
| 00:15.14 | Renze | vbgunz: um, your trash is in .local/share/Trash |
| 00:16.01 | Renze | vbgunz: unless you're using an ancient version of KDE |
| 00:16.34 | vbgunz | ahh yes, I remember I said "sudo rm -fr ~/.local/share/Trash" and this will delete the Trash folder *but* KDE will not automatically recreate it... I will have to recreate it :) |
| 00:16.55 | vbgunz | I don't have it either, I have the one in .local |
| 00:17.28 | Jucato | ooh bram85 left |
| 00:17.33 | Renze | silly sudoers |
| 00:18.12 | vbgunz | let me try something |
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| 00:19.16 | vbgunz | ahh |
| 00:19.41 | vbgunz | I never tried this but this seems correct: sudo rm -fr ~/.local/share/trash/* |
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| 00:20.09 | Renze | I've never had to do that, but then I've never had any files in there that didn't belong to me |
| 00:20.13 | vbgunz | that'll delete the contents without deleting the main folder... heh, I am too used to having the trash can automatically recreated for me :) |
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| 00:20.39 | Renze | I'm so glad I didn't choose debian (or debian-based) |
| 00:20.55 | vbgunz | Renze: this usually happens with checkinstall (to create deb packages) |
| 00:20.57 | texnofobix | i'm a big fan of gentoo |
| 00:21.01 | vbgunz | Renze: what do you use? |
| 00:21.05 | Renze | gentoo |
| 00:21.12 | vbgunz | ahh |
| 00:21.33 | vbgunz | I heard Gentoo is for the demi-gods |
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| 00:22.06 | vbgunz | :) |
| 00:22.29 | Jucato | Gentoo is for demi-geeks |
| 00:22.37 | vbgunz | heh |
| 00:23.33 | Jucato | :P |
| 00:23.45 | vbgunz | I've only been on Linux for a little over a year with 10 years of Windows experience since 95. this is the best upgrade ever though I would really like to see Vista *but* will never consider upgrading to it with all the horror stories, etc |
| 00:24.11 | x_link | Is it possible to make the desktop icons bigger? |
| 00:24.18 | vbgunz | I think after some experience, I would like to try FreeBSD with KDE |
| 00:24.20 | x_link | I can't see my icon pictures that good. |
| 00:24.39 | chtitux | hello you |
| 00:24.45 | Simkin | i think everyone should TRY vista |
| 00:24.50 | Renze | x_link: yes, kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> icons, advanced |
| 00:24.50 | Simkin | just to see how annoying it is |
| 00:25.17 | Jucato | yes! try vista! how much do we need to buy it and try an OS we won't be using? |
| 00:25.26 | chtitux | I'm trying to compile KDE 4 with the wiki page ( KDE3To4 ) , but I get many errors with link with qt(-unstable) |
| 00:25.37 | Renze | chtitux: #kde4-devel |
| 00:25.48 | x_link | ok |
| 00:25.50 | x_link | Thanks Renze ! |
| 00:25.54 | Renze | no problem |
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| 00:27.45 | crazy_bus | I'm trying to access my wireless internet on a laptop. Wireless assistant in kubuntu finds it but I can't set the network up for some reason. One of the problems is that the manager only takes WEP keys and not other forms of security (like a password) Is there anyway to fix this? |
| 00:28.30 | Renze | crazy_bus: wpa_supplicant? |
| 00:28.46 | x_link | Renze: 48 is to small and 64 is to big |
| 00:28.47 | x_link | hehe |
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| 00:29.02 | Renze | x_link: wait for KDE4 and svg icons |
| 00:29.16 | Renze | scale to any size |
| 00:29.18 | texnofobix | hmm x_link? |
| 00:29.31 | texnofobix | haha |
| 00:29.35 | texnofobix | sup x_link |
| 00:29.35 | x_link | lol texnofobix !! |
| 00:29.38 | x_link | Not much |
| 00:29.41 | x_link | Changing my KDE icons |
| 00:29.49 | texnofobix | crazy themer :P |
| 00:29.49 | x_link | Pretty fun, looks much better now |
| 00:29.52 | x_link | hehe |
| 00:29.57 | x_link | texnofobix: What the heck are you doing here? |
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| 00:30.04 | x_link | Now I must stop joining this channel =/ |
| 00:30.06 | x_link | lol |
| 00:30.10 | texnofobix | hmm ... i thought i'd chill in here |
| 00:30.15 | x_link | Good |
| 00:30.24 | x_link | The other server is just messed up people |
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| 00:30.47 | crazy_bus | Renze: The program installed on kubuntu is Wireless Assistant 0.5.5 . Do you suggest I install wpa_supplicant? |
| 00:31.15 | x_link | Renze: when will KDE 4 be out? |
| 00:31.28 | texnofobix | network manager looks promising |
| 00:31.34 | texnofobix | but they still need to work out some bugs |
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| 00:32.00 | Renze | crazy_bus: I know nothing about kubuntu, but wpa_supplicant allows for wpa authentication |
| 00:32.17 | crazy_bus | Renze: actually wpasupplicant is installed as well |
| 00:32.19 | Renze | x_link: when it's ready |
| 00:32.30 | Renze | crazy_bus: then take your question to #kubuntu |
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| 00:33.01 | vbgunz | anyone have the KDE4 wishlist link on hand? |
| 00:33.16 | texnofobix | no |
| 00:33.21 | x_link | Renze: hehe I understood that as well. But do you think it will take a long time? |
| 00:33.36 | texnofobix | i hope keep up the awesome ideas |
| 00:33.42 | Renze | x_link: it might be the second half of this year... or it might not... |
| 00:35.48 | x_link | ok |
| 00:36.00 | x_link | Renze: Is it possible to just make some desktop icons bigger/smaller? |
| 00:36.12 | Renze | x_link: not currently, no |
| 00:36.16 | texnofobix | some? |
| 00:36.26 | x_link | Renze: Alright |
| 00:37.47 | x_link | Renze: Well, thanks for your help & support then =) |
| 00:37.58 | Renze | no problem |
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| 00:43.44 | x_link | Renze: apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade, will that change my KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 ? |
| 00:43.58 | Renze | x_link: no idea... my distro doesn't use apt-get |
| 00:44.06 | Shaman` | someone from kde needs to go to digg.com and try it through konq |
| 00:44.11 | x_link | ok |
| 00:44.12 | texnofobix | i dont know |
| 00:44.12 | LiquidNerd | Renze: yous hould get a real distro |
| 00:44.20 | Shaman` | digg seems to be able to slow the whole damn machine down when you go to it in konq |
| 00:44.23 | Renze | LiquidNerd: I have the only real distro :D |
| 00:44.25 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 00:44.31 | x_link | Renze: Cause I would like to upgrade to 3.5.6 now. |
| 00:44.37 | texnofobix | Shaman`: its probably the JS |
| 00:44.38 | Renze | Shaman`: I've visited digg many times... seems fine to me |
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| 00:44.48 | Renze | x_link: ask in your distro channel |
| 00:44.56 | x_link | ok |
| 00:45.01 | Renze | x_link: kde is released as source code only... packages are up to the distros |
| 00:45.12 | x_link | ok |
| 00:45.38 | Shaman` | for me on a AMD-64 4000+ box digg.com will pretty much make the whole box stutter in konq |
| 00:45.46 | Shaman` | ever since digg redid their interface |
| 00:46.09 | Morbo | That's comforting |
| 00:46.23 | Shaman` | Works great in Firefox |
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| 00:46.34 | Renze | Shaman`: seems fine to me, and I am currently compiling ;) |
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| 00:46.54 | Jucato | Digg itself seems a tad slow, but doesn't slow down the whole desktop for me |
| 00:46.55 | Morbo | It was already broken. |
| 00:46.56 | Shaman` | It happens on three boxes for me... two Gentoo boxes and one Ubuntu |
| 00:47.01 | x_link | Nope, my release doesn't have it they say. |
| 00:47.05 | Renze | Shaman`: fine here on my gentoo box |
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| 00:47.07 | x_link | DVD time and then bed time |
| 00:47.11 | x_link | Good night folx! |
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| 00:47.28 | Renze | Shaman`: but I'm not on 64bit yet |
| 00:48.42 | Shaman` | I'm not either, I'm using the 32 bit stuff |
| 00:48.54 | Shaman` | Just for the sake of time |
| 00:49.05 | texnofobix | some stuff doesnt compile right |
| 00:49.06 | Shaman` | don't want to wrestle with 32 bit jails etc |
| 00:49.10 | texnofobix | kde works fine in 64 |
| 00:49.10 | Shaman` | and that |
| 00:49.24 | texnofobix | rosegarden wouldnt compile though |
| 00:49.30 | texnofobix | i have both on it |
| 00:49.36 | texnofobix | i didnt jail it though i should have |
| 00:49.46 | texnofobix | i have two gentoo installs on it |
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| 00:57.18 | crazy_bus_ | I installed knetwork manager. And it found my internet and allowed me to enter the password. However after doing that it goes to "Activation stage: Configuring device" and does progress from there? |
| 00:58.15 | Renze | crazy_bus_: not all distros have knetworkmanager |
| 00:58.41 | crazy_bus_ | But I installed it from the package manager? |
| 00:58.55 | Renze | so? not all distros have your package manager |
| 00:59.06 | Renze | crazy_bus_: you're in #kde, not #kubuntu |
| 00:59.53 | crazy_bus_ | I asked about it in kubuntu but no one seemed to answer my question |
| 01:00.54 | Renze | crazy_bus_: this is a distribution specific question and does not belong in #kde |
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| 01:05.44 | Red_Cloud | Is there a package in KDE which can be used to create tar files? |
| 01:06.02 | Renze | ark ? |
| 01:06.03 | hagabaka | Ark? |
| 01:06.07 | Jucato | Ark, but it only uses a backend |
| 01:06.07 | Renze | snap! |
| 01:06.17 | hagabaka | :O |
| 01:06.29 | hagabaka | i wish there's a nice charmap viewer for KDE |
| 01:06.34 | Jucato | kcharselect |
| 01:06.36 | Renze | kcharselect ? |
| 01:06.39 | Renze | snap! |
| 01:06.40 | Jucato | snap? |
| 01:06.48 | Jucato | :P |
| 01:06.52 | MrGrim | SNAP |
| 01:06.54 | hagabaka | i've used it, but i think it lacks some important features |
| 01:07.00 | hagabaka | let me try again |
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| 01:10.07 | Red_Cloud | Thanks for the suggestion of Ark |
| 01:13.09 | chovy | how do i setup a webcam in KDE? |
| 01:13.26 | Renze | you don't set it up in KDE, you set it up in Linux |
| 01:13.33 | chovy | Renze: how do i do that? |
| 01:13.48 | Renze | chovy: this is #kde, not a general linux help channel |
| 01:13.57 | hydrogen | hmm, startkde isn't wanting to start on another x for me |
| 01:13.59 | hydrogen | kdeinit4: couldn't open() tty: Permission denied |
| 01:14.31 | Jucato | is there a channel for Basket support? (compiling) |
| 01:14.49 | Renze | Jucato: if one exists, I would think it would be #basket |
| 01:15.01 | Jucato | no go... :( |
| 01:15.21 | hagabaka | oh yeah, |
| 01:15.49 | hagabaka | it only lists table numbers, instead of names like gcharmap |
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| 01:17.51 | arriesp | xao gente |
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| 01:21.26 | flaccid | how to make opening files in konqi follow focus without following mouse? |
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| 01:22.08 | flaccid | ie. i need to put window behaviour on follow mouse for focus to be given, however if i do alt+f2 to run something, i have to focus mouse over dialog to be able to type in it |
| 01:22.28 | Renze | flaccid: adjust your focus stealing prevention |
| 01:22.38 | Schalken | how come kde themes do not effect qt apps like google earth? |
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| 01:28.00 | flaccid | Renze: i'll go look |
| 01:28.21 | flaccid | where is that option? |
| 01:28.52 | Renze | kcontrol -> desktop -> window behaviour, advanced tab |
| 01:30.56 | bsdfox_ | hi I am running sabayon (gentoo) with 3.5.5 and I was messing with aiglx/beryl.. now I have it turned off and kded keeps crashing |
| 01:31.08 | bsdfox_ | what can I do to diagnose where the problem is? |
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| 01:33.14 | flaccid | Renze: doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 01:33.27 | Renze | flaccid: you are using kwin, yes? |
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| 01:35.18 | bsdfox_ | h36sa@wiggler /var/log $ kded --new-startup |
| 01:35.19 | bsdfox_ | FATAL: DCOP communication problem! |
| 01:35.19 | bsdfox_ | Aborted |
| 01:35.22 | bsdfox_ | ..? |
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| 01:36.22 | Renze | bsdfox_: dcopserver running? |
| 01:38.33 | bsdfox_ | 5430 ? S 0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid |
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| 01:40.37 | bsdfox_ | h36sa@wiggler /var/log $ dcop kded |
| 01:40.37 | bsdfox_ | ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! |
| 01:40.55 | Renze | ok, so it's a dcop problem, not a kded problem |
| 01:41.29 | bsdfox_ | ok. I am still pretty lost |
| 01:41.43 | bsdfox_ | I don't see any useful logs in /var/log |
| 01:41.55 | Renze | bsdfox_: how about ~/.xsession-errors ? |
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| 01:43.25 | bsdfox_ | DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-15481' to 'kded' |
| 01:43.26 | bsdfox_ | kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed. |
| 01:44.13 | bsdfox_ | that's all that seems relevant |
| 01:45.11 | hydrogen | iirc sabayon does some really bad things |
| 01:45.33 | Renze | which is why I do not associate it with gentoo |
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| 01:46.01 | bsdfox_ | k well.. I still need help |
| 01:46.09 | Renze | bsdfox_: #sabayon |
| 01:46.19 | Renze | ask them what they broke |
| 01:47.40 | bsdfox_ | Renze: it works fine on a couple other boxes and it worked fine on this one 6 hours ago :P |
| 01:47.48 | bsdfox_ | they said to update to 3.5.6 :( |
| 01:48.04 | Renze | bsdfox_: works fine on my gentoo box too, regardless of if I'm using beryl or kwin |
| 01:48.29 | Renze | and I'm in the middle of building 3.5.6 |
| 01:50.40 | hydrogen | this one already finished |
| 01:50.43 | hydrogen | that one takes a while :( |
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| 01:54.45 | flaccid | Renze: yep |
| 01:55.22 | Renze | flaccid: it works for me using kwin... not sure why it's not making a difference for you |
| 01:55.39 | flaccid | i've found it to always be buggy and different on different OS |
| 01:55.53 | Renze | flaccid: that's why I build my own |
| 01:55.58 | flaccid | grrr |
| 01:56.05 | Renze | well, via gentoo's excellent tools |
| 01:56.05 | texnofobix | gentoo ftw |
| 01:56.09 | texnofobix | :P |
| 01:56.11 | flaccid | in this case kde can't even do what windows does |
| 01:56.25 | texnofobix | it takes forever to build on a 800mhz though |
| 01:56.30 | texnofobix | i should set up distcc |
| 01:56.30 | Renze | flaccid: what distro? (so I can add it to the list to avoid) |
| 01:57.39 | flaccid | freebsd |
| 01:57.49 | flaccid | and kubuntu |
| 01:57.54 | texnofobix | i like freebsd |
| 01:57.56 | texnofobix | its different |
| 01:57.57 | flaccid | actually i've never had it working on any distro |
| 01:57.59 | Renze | ah, those were already on my list |
| 01:58.01 | texnofobix | but i use ports |
| 01:58.28 | flaccid | can i please ask your settings in window behaviour renze. you want the same action as me ? |
| 01:58.35 | flaccid | i mean you have the same action right? |
| 01:58.43 | bsdfox_ | kde works pretty well on my freebsd box |
| 01:58.50 | Renze | flaccid: no, mine works ;) |
| 01:58.58 | Renze | flaccid: which tab? |
| 01:59.30 | Renze | flaccid: I'm not going to read them all out... which settings do you want to know? |
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| 02:00.13 | MinceR | being different for the sake of being different isn't a good thing |
| 02:00.33 | flaccid | lets start with focus |
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| 02:00.41 | Renze | focus follows mouse |
| 02:00.42 | logixoul | hi, what launches kicker normally? |
| 02:01.02 | flaccid | auto raise, delay focus, click raise window |
| 02:01.04 | Renze | logixoul: a .desktop file in $KDEDIR/share/autostart/ |
| 02:01.24 | Renze | autoraise and delay focus unticked, click to raise ticked |
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| 02:02.02 | flaccid | Renze: ok that fixed the follow mouse for run dialog for eg. now i'll try the kate thing |
| 02:02.05 | logixoul | Renze: right, it's there. any idea why it won't launch kicker during login? |
| 02:02.28 | Renze | logixoul: you have a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart with the same name? |
| 02:02.31 | flaccid | hey i think they may of did it |
| 02:02.39 | flaccid | even though i've tried this before |
| 02:02.43 | logixoul | Renze: no |
| 02:02.49 | Renze | logixoul: then I have no idea |
| 02:02.56 | logixoul | Renze: ok... |
| 02:02.59 | Renze | logixoul: check your ~/.xsession-errors file for anything useful |
| 02:04.13 | logixoul | Renze: it says QObject::connect: No such signal Kicker::settingsChanged(SettingsCategory) |
| 02:04.18 | logixoul | Renze: and kicker: ERROR: KickerSettings::instance called after the first use - ignoring |
| 02:04.40 | Renze | hmmm... could be a bad applet... |
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| 02:04.54 | Renze | logixoul: does kicker start then disappear, or not start at all? |
| 02:05.05 | logixoul | i don't think it starts |
| 02:05.10 | logixoul | (during login) |
| 02:05.19 | logixoul | otherwise it starts fine |
| 02:05.25 | Renze | try moving your ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc to another name and try launching it again |
| 02:05.34 | Renze | oh, it starts when called manually? |
| 02:05.37 | logixoul | yes |
| 02:05.40 | Renze | weird |
| 02:05.48 | logixoul | tried moving the file, doesn't help |
| 02:05.54 | logixoul | yeah |
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| 02:06.37 | logixoul | i currently have it in ~/.kde/Autostart, but that makes it load really late, and that sucks |
| 02:07.09 | logixoul | besides, in a clean user account all works fine |
| 02:07.36 | Renze | so it has to be something in ~/.kde/ |
| 02:07.53 | logixoul | i guess |
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| 02:08.08 | Renze | if it works for another user, it has to be user settings |
| 02:08.26 | logixoul | yep, and they are most likely under .kde, yes |
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| 02:11.42 | logixoul | no luck |
| 02:13.11 | logixoul | brb |
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| 02:19.08 | Jucato | nooooooooo!! |
| 02:19.18 | orkid | ? |
| 02:19.30 | Jucato | I almost deleted my build directories... :( |
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| 02:23.46 | Renze | resources... being... consumed... by... build... |
| 02:24.05 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:24.09 | Renze | my own fault for using --enable-final ;) |
| 02:24.30 | Jucato | what does that do? |
| 02:24.40 | Jucato | I have --enable-debug=full |
| 02:25.01 | Renze | joins all the source files together and compiles in one pass... uses LOTS of ram, but builds a little faster |
| 02:25.22 | Jucato | aaaah |
| 02:28.46 | Renze | CPU at 57°C |
| 02:29.08 | Renze | not quite hot enough to fry eggs |
| 02:29.21 | Jucato | boil water? |
| 02:29.28 | Renze | no, that needs 100°C |
| 02:29.35 | Jucato | oh yeah :P |
| 02:32.08 | LiquidNerd | is there an ascii thing in KDE similar to that of Windows where if you hold down ALT and press the key combo on the numpad, it will spit out a special ascii char? |
| 02:32.47 | Jucato | Sho_: are you heading for bed? |
| 02:33.01 | Sho_ | Jucato: Not immediately, I was about to watch a movie |
| 02:33.21 | LiquidNerd | Renze: how does that work? Is it default to kde? |
| 02:33.33 | Renze | LiquidNerd: it's not a KDE thing, it's an xkb thing |
| 02:33.39 | Jucato | Sho_: ah ok... would you happen to know where a slight newbie could ask about problems compiling basKet? |
| 02:33.40 | LiquidNerd | interesting |
| 02:33.57 | Renze | LiquidNerd: kcontrol -> reg & acc -> keyboard layout, xkb options tab |
| 02:34.31 | LiquidNerd | now.. how do I use it? |
| 02:34.32 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 02:34.40 | Sho_ | Jucato: in #kde? ;) |
| 02:34.45 | Renze | LiquidNerd: you have selected a key to be compose? |
| 02:35.00 | LiquidNerd | nope.. I thought that was missing... |
| 02:35.02 | Renze | LiquidNerd: ignore the top option if there is one |
| 02:35.10 | Renze | LiquidNerd: scroll down a bit |
| 02:35.17 | Jucato | kiconcanvas.cpp: In member function 'void KIconCanvas::loadIcon(const QString&)': kiconcanvas.cpp:121: error: 'min' is not a member of 'std' |
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| 02:35.49 | Jucato | this seems to be the only relevant search result that Google yields: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35528&forummode=2&forumpage=2&forumexplevel=99&PHPSESSID=d2b4285ba19029a2c64b15de33d34c57 |
| 02:35.52 | LiquidNerd | ahh |
| 02:36.00 | LiquidNerd | so I selected right ctrl as my compose key. |
| 02:36.12 | Renze | LiquidNerd: now tap right ctrl, then e, then ' |
| 02:36.40 | crazy_bus | I'm trying to play the "World Cup"board on Atlantik but only the places on the top and left side are visible. Is it meant to be like this? |
| 02:36.40 | LiquidNerd | hmm |
| 02:36.45 | LiquidNerd | doesn't seem to do anything |
| 02:36.51 | Jucato | LiquidNerd: ' first, then e |
| 02:36.51 | Renze | Jucato: both work |
| 02:36.59 | LiquidNerd | Jucato: your way worked |
| 02:37.01 | Renze | Jucato: the order doesn't matter |
| 02:37.02 | Jucato | :P |
| 02:37.09 | Renze | both orders work here :P |
| 02:37.14 | Renze | you guys suck :D |
| 02:37.15 | LiquidNerd | pfft |
| 02:37.17 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 02:37.37 | LiquidNerd | wow.. this is much better than the Windows way |
| 02:37.40 | Renze | éé <-- those were done in opposite orders |
| 02:38.13 | LiquidNerd | how would you do the c in francais? |
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| 02:38.19 | Renze | compose c , |
| 02:38.20 | Jucato | Sho_: do you have any idea about that? :( |
| 02:38.25 | Renze | français |
| 02:38.30 | LiquidNerd | neat |
| 02:38.37 | Sho_ | Jucato: Not without seeing the source |
| 02:38.40 | LiquidNerd | Is there a man page on how to do all of these? |
| 02:38.46 | Renze | LiquidNerd: not that I know of |
| 02:38.54 | LiquidNerd | lol. just trial and error? |
| 02:38.55 | logixoul | is there a way to force a command to run right before startkde, but just for my user? |
| 02:38.56 | Jucato | guess I'll have to do it the old fashion way... .deb... :( |
| 02:39.00 | Renze | LiquidNerd: most of them are logical, though |
| 02:39.08 | LiquidNerd | yeah |
| 02:39.10 | Renze | logixoul: ~/.kde/env |
| 02:39.12 | MrGrim | logixoul: .xinitrc |
| 02:39.12 | Sho_ | Jucato: you could pastebin that source file |
| 02:39.15 | MrGrim | run it before startkde |
| 02:39.24 | Jucato | Sho_: for that specific file? will do |
| 02:39.28 | logixoul | Renze, MrGrim: thanks |
| 02:39.35 | Renze | no problem |
| 02:40.49 | Jucato | Sho_: http://rafb.net/p/I3ikKo37.html |
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| 02:48.22 | LiquidNerd | Jucato: I haven't been to the office in over a week thanks to the internet, so I haven't shaved in over a week... I'm a grizzly bear |
| 02:48.32 | Jucato | O.o |
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| 02:51.52 | bsdfox__ | someone help me fix kded! |
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| 02:52.13 | synth | Can anyone suggest a program to tail syslog files on the X root? |
| 02:52.40 | Jucato | ksyslog? |
| 02:55.25 | LiquidNerd | tail -f ? |
| 02:58.00 | Renze | didimao! |
| 02:59.20 | bsdfox__ | deer hunter? |
| 02:59.26 | Renze | we have a winner! |
| 03:00.00 | Jucato | "there is NO GRUB" "go to /boot/grub" "but there is NO GRUB! I'm in /root. there is no GRUB there" |
| 03:00.16 | Renze | Jucato: did you smack him? |
| 03:00.27 | Jucato | oh god I so want to! |
| 03:00.33 | Jucato | er.. "oh $DEITY I so want to!" |
| 03:00.45 | Renze | that's $MYTHICAL_DEITY |
| 03:01.07 | MrGrim | god is dead |
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| 03:01.23 | Renze | god was created in man's image |
| 03:01.26 | Jucato | nietzsche |
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| 03:02.11 | Renze | wheee... building kmail... bye bye resources |
| 03:02.44 | Renze | I may lag out or something |
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| 03:03.46 | Jucato | "LISTEN u POPTARTS I HAVE /rro/ NO /ROOT/GRUB can you get past that & get a clue & help me" |
| 03:03.54 | kavorka^ | using 3.56...but ever since 3.5* i have been having the problem of when i enter the superuser filemanager it uses one click mouse intead of the double-click that i have configured it as a normal user....how do i configure the superuser filemananager to use the same mouse settings as the normal user? |
| 03:04.14 | Renze | Jucato: rip that guy a new one |
| 03:04.42 | qupada | kavorka^: start kcontrol as root and change the setting |
| 03:04.53 | MrGrim | my pc is silent :) |
| 03:05.11 | MrGrim | makes for a good music listening environment |
| 03:06.17 | Jucato | gr... that just so boils me up! |
| 03:06.36 | arg3ntum | :) |
| 03:07.49 | qupada | lol |
| 03:07.50 | Sho_ | MrGrim: Well I happen to like ambient noise / industrial anyway fortunately |
| 03:08.08 | qupada | might stop those heart attacks he's been having, they use nitroglycerine as a heart medicine |
| 03:08.18 | Sho_ | MrGrim: emerge --sync becomes a symphony of hard drive seek noise |
| 03:08.50 | MrGrim | :/ |
| 03:08.56 | kavorka^ | qupada, thanks...it has done the trick....ive had this problem for 12 months! lol |
| 03:08.59 | MrGrim | I can't hear my HD thanks to this case |
| 03:09.20 | Sho_ | Nah :). The system isn't that loud, actually. The Antec isolates well, I don't really hear the drive, despite 10k rpm. |
| 03:09.47 | MrGrim | ya, it completely silences this already quiet barracuda IV |
| 03:10.14 | Jucato | Sho_: I'm guessing no clue on my problem? |
| 03:11.16 | kavorka^ | using amarok 1.4.4, when i go to tools->statistsics->fav tracks it won't expand and give me a break down of my top rated tracks, but it works when i select 'fav albums'...does anyone else have this problem? is it a bug? |
| 03:11.56 | Jucato | kavorka^: might wanna try in #amarok ? |
| 03:12.15 | kavorka^ | oh didnt realise there was such a channel...thx! |
| 03:13.41 | LiquidNerd | kavorka^: I'm getting the same thign |
| 03:13.53 | Sho_ | Jucato: Try adding an #include <algorithm> |
| 03:14.32 | kavorka^ | LiquidNerd, i thought maybe it takes a while once you play a certain number of songs...but its been a while now |
| 03:15.07 | Jucato | Sho_: ok will do |
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| 03:20.26 | shadok | maybe i'll find someone who had this problem here => i have a weird problem since a few days with amarok's systray popup : http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5968/screenshot18rd1.png |
| 03:21.33 | shadok | any idea if it comes from amarok or kwin/other ? |
| 03:25.49 | shadok | other systray's popups doesn't have this problem |
| 03:27.35 | shadok | i'm asking there already :) |
| 03:32.48 | shadok | g2g, later |
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| 03:36.43 | madd_matt | At one point I was sure there was some sort of kde app that listened for messages sent with wall and displayed them? |
| 03:37.44 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 03:37.51 | texnofobix | knotice? |
| 03:37.54 | texnofobix | knotify? |
| 03:37.58 | texnofobix | one of the two i htink |
| 03:38.04 | Sho_ | madd_matt: It's actually a kded module. KControl -> KDE Components -> Service Manager -> [x] KDE Write Daemon |
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| 03:39.04 | Schalken | how come kde widget themes dont effect qt apps like google earth? |
| 03:39.26 | Sho_ | Schalken: Google Earth ships its own copy of Qt |
| 03:39.37 | Sho_ | Schalken: And is hard-wired to use the style it uses |
| 03:39.42 | Schalken | Sho_: ohh |
| 03:39.49 | Sho_ | Schalken: Normally, Qt apps will use the KDE style |
| 03:39.56 | Schalken | Sho_: well thats stupid |
| 03:40.05 | Sho_ | Schalken: Well yeah ... ask Google to open source it so we can fix it ;) |
| 03:40.24 | Schalken | or just ask them to use the system qt libs |
| 03:41.01 | Sho_ | I like my variant better ;) |
| 03:41.21 | Schalken | :P but yeah that would explain why scribus uses the kde theme |
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| 03:45.12 | madd_matt | Sho_, its running, but i don't recieve any messages. |
| 03:45.48 | Sho_ | madd_matt: Unfortunately, my knowledge stops at that checkbox ;) |
| 03:46.04 | madd_matt | Oh well. Off to google it is! |
| 03:46.09 | Sho_ | yeah :) |
| 03:46.23 | Jucato | Google is your friend :) |
| 03:46.27 | Jucato | (sometimes...) |
| 03:46.43 | madd_matt | Heh, there are only 3 users on this box, we msg each other, and it can be a pain to have to keep a terminal open just for wall :P |
| 03:46.58 | Shaman` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHlevDnkr4 kitty washing machine |
| 03:49.00 | Sho_ | I was going to bring up how that has nothing to do with KDE, but then it does have a K I guess |
| 03:49.08 | Sho_ | *shrugs* |
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| 03:53.13 | oneforall | darn segfault with xsetroot |
| 03:54.00 | texnofobix | some day kdelibs-3.5.6 will compile! |
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| 03:55.57 | Sho_ | That day was yesterday for me :) |
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| 03:56.18 | texnofobix | yeah yeah |
| 03:56.23 | texnofobix | i should set up dcc |
| 03:56.24 | Jucato | that day was 3 days ago for me... :) |
| 03:56.26 | texnofobix | err distcc |
| 03:56.34 | texnofobix | i just started the compile about 7 |
| 03:57.00 | texnofobix | i need to go read up on dcc though |
| 03:57.03 | texnofobix | err |
| 03:57.10 | texnofobix | i should sleep more |
| 03:57.40 | Jucato | yeah... you and your krazy hardware komponents! :P |
| 03:57.41 | texnofobix | i'm compiling on a p3 800 w/ 512 |
| 03:57.44 | texnofobix | :( |
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| 04:08.48 | Simkin | what size file? |
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| 04:17.57 | Renze | ok, this kmail build is starting to annoy me |
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| 04:19.13 | qupada | is it doing the ridiculously high ram usage thing again? |
| 04:19.18 | Renze | yup |
| 04:19.22 | qupada | i seem to recall this from 3.5.5 |
| 04:19.35 | Bxnp | what is qupada |
| 04:19.40 | Renze | it's taking much longer this time |
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| 04:20.31 | qupada | Bxnp: kmail + kdeenablefinal option = bad idea |
| 04:20.55 | Bxnp | why qupada |
| 04:21.10 | Renze | because it needs more than 1GB of RAM to build in |
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| 04:22.39 | tambu | This may be a crazy question but trying to do something interesting. in KDE is there a separate app(binary) for the bar at the bottom of the screen that has the KDE start menu? I'm curious about trying to start this up separate of the KDE environment. |
| 04:22.56 | qupada | and swapping while compiling = really, really, really slow |
| 04:23.05 | orkid | kicker |
| 04:23.10 | orkid | tambu, kicker |
| 04:23.19 | oneforall | any idea on what I can do to track wwhy xsetroot is segfaulting ? |
| 04:23.22 | tambu | ah thanks trying it out. |
| 04:24.06 | Bxnp | i understand qupada |
| 04:24.39 | Bxnp | anybody did some off you watch the australlian open |
| 04:24.43 | Bxnp | tennis womens final |
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| 04:28.10 | texnofobix | whats tennis |
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| 04:28.12 | texnofobix | j/k |
| 04:28.16 | texnofobix | i dont watch much TV |
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| 04:28.39 | Bxnp | lol kee texnofobix |
| 04:29.42 | texnofobix | heh |
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| 04:36.19 | Renze | no more --enable-final for kmail... |
| 04:36.24 | Renze | badness |
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| 04:42.57 | aimee | Hi Jucato, have a good day! |
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| 04:46.03 | JakeConno1 | how do I configure kde so that I have to double click things in order to open them? |
| 04:49.16 | Renze | Jucato: kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse |
| 04:49.41 | Renze | oops, JakeConno1 ^^ |
| 04:49.48 | Renze | damn tab completion ;) |
| 04:53.05 | JakeConno1 | ooo ok got it! |
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| 05:07.20 | Shirakawasuna | Renze: wii news channel, woo |
| 05:07.28 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: yep, it's pretty cool |
| 05:07.46 | Renze | updated last night |
| 05:08.03 | Jucato | Renze: you rang? |
| 05:08.14 | Renze | Jucato: only a mistabcomplete ;) |
| 05:08.21 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 05:08.43 | Jucato | boy am I soo happy that I couldn't get basket to install :) |
| 05:08.47 | Jucato | compile I mean |
| 05:08.57 | Renze | that made you happy? |
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| 05:09.03 | Renze | or do I smell sarcasm? |
| 05:09.03 | Shirakawasuna | is it an evil program? |
| 05:09.09 | Shirakawasuna | did someone take over your hands? :) |
| 05:09.24 | Jucato | one of the killer programs that I want to have doesn't compile. what could make me happier? :) |
| 05:09.38 | Renze | definitely sarcasm I smell |
| 05:10.10 | Jucato | :D |
| 05:12.40 | Jucato | it also makes me a lot happier that the only .deb package available is compiled to use arts, which I didn't compile since the beginning :) |
| 05:12.51 | Jucato | oh happy day, oh happy day! |
| 05:13.02 | Renze | huzzah, or something |
| 05:13.23 | Renze | larry! |
| 05:13.32 | Jucato | heh |
| 05:17.58 | JakeConno1 | is it possible to configure short cut keys to applications in kde? for instance each time I hit Ctrl + Shift + I I want to start up firefox |
| 05:18.16 | Renze | JakeConno1: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> input actions |
| 05:18.35 | Renze | JakeConno1: or kmenuedit to edit the shortcuts for menu entries |
| 05:19.16 | Jucato | kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts, for items in the K Menu |
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| 05:20.27 | JakeConno1 | ooo perfect thanks |
| 05:20.46 | trench- | hello everyone...using kde 3.5.6 here on gentoo...was wondering what do i need to install/do to be able to preview video files on konqueror? |
| 05:20.59 | Jucato | Renze: yoohooo |
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| 05:21.10 | Jucato | trench-: or #gentoo or #gentoo-kde |
| 05:21.12 | Renze | trench-: using arts? |
| 05:21.16 | trench- | i can preview jpegs just fine...just want my video thumbnails |
| 05:21.20 | trench- | yes |
| 05:21.50 | Renze | trench-: artsplugin-xine, I believe |
| 05:22.15 | Jucato | Renze: what can be an alternative (we don't have arts...) |
| 05:22.16 | Renze | I can't be sure, I stopped using arts three years ago |
| 05:22.16 | trench- | cool...i just emerged that a few minutes ago...just wasn't certain if that's the correct one |
| 05:22.27 | Renze | Jucato: mplayerthumbs from kde-apps.org |
| 05:22.52 | Jucato | Renze: that's the only possibility? |
| 05:22.58 | trench- | thx for the input Renze ...i'd give that a shot |
| 05:22.59 | Renze | Jucato: the only one I know of |
| 05:23.03 | Renze | trench-: no problem |
| 05:23.18 | Jucato | Renze: for both video and audio previews? |
| 05:23.27 | Renze | Jucato: no, it only does video previews |
| 05:23.33 | Jucato | aaaah |
| 05:23.37 | Jucato | oooooh |
| 05:23.44 | Jucato | hhmmmm |
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| 05:24.37 | Renze | lack of audio previews is a small price to pay to not have that arts crap infesting my harddrive |
| 05:24.37 | Jucato | :P |
| 05:24.37 | trench- | that sure did the trick Renze ..thx again :) |
| 05:24.37 | Renze | trench-: no problem |
| 05:24.41 | trench- | later everyone...aloha! |
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| 05:25.48 | Renze | Jucato: kubuntu? :D |
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| 05:25.48 | Jucato | duh! I'm not on Kubuntu |
| 05:25.53 | Jucato | remember? |
| 05:26.05 | Renze | you're not? |
| 05:26.10 | Renze | since when? |
| 05:26.37 | Jucato | well, not 100% Kubuntu. since January 8, I believe |
| 05:26.48 | Renze | the core is still kubuntu |
| 05:26.56 | Jucato | not KDE |
| 05:27.02 | Renze | the build tools and headers are still kubuntu |
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| 05:27.25 | Jucato | depends on headers for what :) |
| 05:27.28 | JakeConno1 | is there a way to add short cut keys for applications that aren't in the kmenu? |
| 05:27.38 | Renze | standard gcc/g++ headers |
| 05:27.39 | Jucato | JakeConno1: Input Actions (what Renze said) |
| 05:27.51 | Jucato | yes, but not KDE's :) |
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| 05:28.06 | Jucato | btw, basket seems to have some crazy code |
| 05:28.13 | Renze | Jucato: so you have an unholy blend of kubuntu and real stuff :D |
| 05:28.33 | Jucato | it's a hybrid :) |
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| 05:28.41 | Jucato | take the best of both worlds :P |
| 05:28.46 | Renze | "mongrel" is a more apropos word :D |
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| 05:29.02 | Jucato | in some ways, this is a bit more complicated than Gentoo |
| 05:29.24 | Renze | gentoo isn't complicated... it just allows idiots to shoot themselves in the foot if they choose to |
| 05:29.34 | Jucato | foot? what foot? |
| 05:29.54 | Renze | already blown yours off, eh? |
| 05:30.21 | Jucato | anyway, "/home/jucato/kde/qt-copy/bin/moc kicondialogui.h -o kicondialogui.moc" where would I find, in the source code, the file that gives this command? Makefile? main.cpp? |
| 05:30.36 | Jucato | link? |
| 05:31.03 | Renze | Makefile, I would think |
| 05:32.27 | Jucato | hm.. MOC points to the correct path, but not the kicondialogui.h doesn't... |
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| 05:34.23 | Renze | hmmm... kpilot failed to build... oh well, no big deal ‒ emerge --resume --skipfirst ;) |
| 05:34.37 | Jucato | lol |
| 05:34.53 | Jucato | export DO_NOT_COMPILE :) |
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| 05:36.18 | tferrero | !arts |
| 05:36.55 | Renze | there is no ! triggered bot in this channel |
| 05:37.01 | Morrie20 | okay |
| 05:37.06 | Morrie20 | having problems with arts server |
| 05:37.08 | Morrie20 | i hear it's common |
| 05:37.13 | Morrie20 | and that I need to d/l sox |
| 05:37.20 | Renze | yeah, it's why I stopped using arts three years ago |
| 05:37.26 | Jucato | wherever did you get that sox idea? :P |
| 05:37.41 | Renze | from Jucato, who got it from me |
| 05:37.45 | Morrie20 | other irc channel |
| 05:38.02 | Jucato | lol |
| 05:38.04 | Morrie20 | hehe |
| 05:38.18 | Morrie20 | i need to enable universal repos to get it right? |
| 05:38.22 | Morrie20 | install it first |
| 05:38.26 | Renze | what's a repo? |
| 05:38.28 | Renze | ;) |
| 05:38.35 | Jucato | Morrie20: #kubuntu :) |
| 05:39.36 | Morrie20 | nope actually you guys helped m eth eothre night successfully beat it |
| 05:39.56 | Morrie20 | I didnt want to admit it |
| 05:40.20 | Morrie20 | hehe |
| 05:40.47 | Morrie20 | but i tried opensuse and didnt backup the chat log |
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| 05:40.50 | Morrie20 | :( |
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| 05:42.25 | Morrie20 | so if you are feeling benevolent to regurgitate what you have alrady helped me with, or point me to a guide :) |
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| 05:42.35 | Morrie20 | I"d be quite jolly |
| 05:42.38 | Arafangi1n | How do I get KDE to automount my media? |
| 05:42.44 | JakeConno1 | is there anyway to get rid of those annoying tooltips when I mouse over things on my panel? |
| 05:42.45 | Morrie20 | is it in kcontrol? |
| 05:42.51 | Jucato | Morrie20: I already gave you answers over at #kubuntu :) |
| 05:43.04 | Renze | Arafangi1n: hal and dbus installed and running? |
| 05:43.42 | Morrie20 | hehe thanks jucato |
| 05:43.42 | Arafangi1n | Renze: I'm fairly certain they are. |
| 05:43.46 | Morrie20 | sorry misdsed that line |
| 05:43.53 | Renze | Arafangi1n: then it should just work |
| 05:43.56 | Arafangi1n | Renze: It's a brand new installation of Debian Etch. |
| 05:44.05 | Renze | Arafangi1n: I know nothing about debian |
| 05:44.27 | Arafangi1n | Renze: Well, one thing to know is that Debian has a minimalistic tendancy. |
| 05:44.40 | Renze | do I really need to know that? ;) |
| 05:44.51 | Renze | I have no intention of ever using debian :P |
| 05:44.57 | Arafangi1n | Renze: I didn't say that *you need* to know that ;) |
| 05:45.09 | Arafangi1n | Renze: What program handles the actual automount? |
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| 05:45.33 | Renze | Arafangi1n: the media service via kded, which gets messages from hal via dbus |
| 05:45.47 | Renze | it's not an "app", it's a library |
| 05:46.39 | Jucato | hm.... |
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| 05:49.11 | Arafangi1n | Renze: Do I need amd, or autofs? |
| 05:49.21 | Renze | I don't have either of those |
| 05:49.30 | Arafangi1n | *libamu |
| 05:49.35 | Arafangi1n | Hmm, ok. |
| 05:53.29 | Arafangi1n | Renze: Ok, turns out I need hal-device-manager, kdemultimedia-kio-plugins and kde-base-kio-plugins |
| 05:53.46 | Renze | Arafangi1n: sorry, I know nothing about debian package names |
| 05:54.03 | Arafangi1n | Renze: And I already had the later two installed. :) |
| 05:54.32 | Renze | in gentoo, it is just called "hal", not "hal-device-manager" |
| 05:55.28 | Arafangi1n | Renze: I had "hal" |
| 05:55.45 | Renze | Arafangi1n: I have nothing called "hal-device-manager" installed |
| 05:55.58 | Renze | no such package exists for gentoo |
| 05:56.12 | Arafangi1n | Renze: Gentoo has a different mechanism. |
| 05:56.32 | Renze | very much so, yes |
| 05:56.47 | Renze | so I can't help with debian problems :P |
| 05:56.52 | Arafangi1n | Renze: The USE flags, debian, however, has no such capability, and it's a distro which is historically used as a server, and so they tend to "split" the packages out quite a bit. :) |
| 05:59.16 | Arafangi1n | Renze: You use Gentoo and you don't know about USE flags? :) |
| 05:59.26 | Jucato | ??? |
| 05:59.33 | Renze | of course I know about USE flags |
| 05:59.45 | Renze | can't you see the ♥ (heart) symbol? |
| 05:59.58 | Arafangi1n | Heart symbol? |
| 06:00.13 | Jucato | uhuh |
| 06:00.17 | Arafangi1n | The <3 |
| 06:00.24 | Jucato | one and the same |
| 06:00.34 | Jucato | only prettier :) |
| 06:00.48 | Arafangi1n | I'm just using irssi. |
| 06:00.57 | Jucato | it should still appear |
| 06:01.02 | Jucato | utf-8 |
| 06:01.22 | Renze | ah, you're utf-8 impaired |
| 06:01.34 | Renze | so you can't see シ either ;) |
| 06:01.50 | Arafangi1n | No, I think irssi has to be specifically told to use utf8. |
| 06:02.17 | hydrogen | the heart isn't utf-8 I don't think |
| 06:02.27 | hydrogen | because I saw it and I know i'm not setup for utf-8 yet on this box |
| 06:02.39 | Renze | hydrogen: how about the シ ? |
| 06:02.49 | hydrogen | nope |
| 06:02.52 | hydrogen | can't see it |
| 06:02.54 | Renze | no shi? |
| 06:02.54 | shadok | Renze: did you hav a way to store some symbols or do you open Special Character table each time ? |
| 06:02.57 | hydrogen | i think the heart may be ascii |
| 06:03.02 | hydrogen | iirc |
| 06:03.05 | Renze | shadok: I set up autoreplace |
| 06:03.16 | shadok | ah yes :) |
| 06:03.20 | Arafangi1n | Ahh, my default locale is en_AU |
| 06:03.26 | Arafangi1n | Not en_AU.UTF8 |
| 06:03.28 | Renze | I autoreplace < 3 (without the space) with ♥ |
| 06:03.37 | swede_x | Renze, i see the heart symbol you used earlier |
| 06:03.53 | Renze | - ‒ — ♥ — ‒ - |
| 06:04.00 | swede_x | And I see a box on the others. |
| 06:04.19 | Renze | no ndashes or mdashes? |
| 06:04.43 | swede_x | I see those on the last one. |
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| 06:05.11 | Arafangi2n | So, can I see the hearts? |
| 06:05.17 | Renze | ♥ |
| 06:05.26 | Arafangi1n | Nope. |
| 06:05.27 | Renze | guess not :D |
| 06:06.19 | swede_x | Ok, I have a question which is both KDE and Gnome related I think..... |
| 06:06.33 | Renze | ew, he said the G word |
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| 06:07.19 | archangelpetro | god damn |
| 06:07.22 | swede_x | I use KDE, but I installed GNUcash which I think was for gnome (?) but now every *.TXT file is set for GNUCash. |
| 06:07.27 | archangelpetro | the people in ##c are wankers. |
| 06:07.30 | swede_x | How do I get that back. |
| 06:07.47 | Renze | swede_x: fix the file associations? |
| 06:08.08 | swede_x | Or am I wrong that's it's gnome? Yeah, I just forgot how since it's been so long. |
| 06:08.51 | Renze | gnucash is for gnome |
| 06:09.22 | swede_x | BTW, know anything like that for KDE? |
| 06:09.30 | Arafangi1n | I think gnucash is merely GTK. |
| 06:09.46 | Renze | Arafangi1n: I think it has become part of the gnome office suite |
| 06:09.51 | Renze | along with abiword |
| 06:10.05 | Jucato | kmymoney? |
| 06:10.18 | Arafangi1n | Renze: If they were integrated, I would agree, but it's just a crap name to make gnome people _feel_ happier about the office suite. |
| 06:10.26 | Arafangi1n | Renze: After all, kde's got koffice. |
| 06:10.32 | Renze | Arafangi1n: there is no integration anywhere in gnome |
| 06:10.49 | Renze | it is a conglomeration of disparate parts |
| 06:11.02 | Jucato | basket finally compiled!!! :) |
| 06:11.09 | Arafangi1n | Renze: I disagree in part, but I definetly do agree that KDE is much, much better designed and integrated. |
| 06:11.24 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 06:11.33 | Jucato | Renze: actually, the "workaround" is quite annoying... but at least it compiled. special thanks to Sho_! |
| 06:11.38 | Renze | Arafangi1n: I haven't looked at Gnome since version 1.4 ‒ back then, it was a kludge |
| 06:11.42 | archangelpetro | well done Jucato |
| 06:11.47 | Jucato | gtg.. shower && haircut |
| 06:12.25 | Arafangi1n | Renze: Definetly. |
| 06:13.15 | archangelpetro | oh, and hello btw. |
| 06:13.16 | swede_x | Ok, I'm installing kmymoney (thanks Jucato), but I forgot how to change the file associations for the TXT files. |
| 06:13.32 | Renze | swede_x: kcontrol -> kde components -> file associations |
| 06:13.39 | swede_x | Thanks. |
| 06:15.23 | archangelpetro | lol nm |
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| 06:16.42 | Sakui | does kdeartwork *require* SDL? |
| 06:17.07 | Renze | ? |
| 06:18.10 | swede_x | Thanks Renze, got the file associations set right again. Now to trythe kmymoney2 |
| 06:19.11 | swede_x | Ok, tomorrow, I'm tired. Thanks for the help. |
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| 06:32.30 | Smak | Does anyone else have problems with kfind to crash when you try to stop a search |
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| 06:39.16 | texnofobix | Smak with .6? |
| 06:39.24 | texnofobix | or .5 |
| 06:39.39 | Smak | .6 |
| 06:39.46 | texnofobix | 3.5.6? |
| 06:39.51 | Smak | yea |
| 06:39.54 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 06:40.02 | texnofobix | i thought iwas supposed to fix a bug in kfind |
| 06:40.20 | texnofobix | at least thats what i thought i read in teh changelog |
| 06:40.41 | texnofobix | i'm still compiliing 3.5.6 so i wont know til its done sometime next month |
| 06:40.45 | texnofobix | j/k |
| 06:40.47 | Smak | haha |
| 06:40.53 | texnofobix | probably by tomrrow |
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| 06:43.57 | Smak | is there a kde icon pack? |
| 06:44.26 | Smak | for like other software |
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| 06:46.11 | ilj | Smak, some icon themes do contain icons for other (non-kde) software |
| 06:46.34 | Smak | yea. emerge world removed some... like the one for firefox :P |
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| 07:03.16 | Red_Cloud | I have installed KDE as my desktop on the Linux From Scratch OS and am having trouble putting shortcuts to my cdrom device on my desktop. Could someone please help me straighten out my mess? |
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| 07:09.21 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, im in a good mood, i'll try to help |
| 07:09.31 | orkid | what 'trouble' ? |
| 07:09.36 | Fenix-Dark | which version of kde are you rnning? |
| 07:09.46 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark thanks |
| 07:10.18 | Red_Cloud | I believe that my cdrom devices are located at sys/block/hdc and sys/block/hdd |
| 07:10.43 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, open up a terminal, and do 'pico /etc/fstab' |
| 07:11.04 | Red_Cloud | OK I've got the fstab file open |
| 07:11.17 | Fenix-Dark | copy and paste the output into a pastebin http://rafb.net/paste then close fstab by ctrl + x |
| 07:11.55 | Fenix-Dark | and give me the link to the pastebin |
| 07:12.23 | Red_Cloud | http://rafb.net/p/DPXi5q82.html |
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| 07:13.09 | Fenix-Dark | ok |
| 07:14.27 | Fenix-Dark | on your desktop or where ever, right click -> create new -> link to device -> cd rom device (or dvd-rom) |
| 07:15.10 | Red_Cloud | ok |
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| 07:15.35 | Fenix-Dark | btw cdrom or dvd-rom? |
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| 07:15.55 | Red_Cloud | It is a cd/dvd writer |
| 07:16.04 | Fenix-Dark | alright |
| 07:16.41 | Fenix-Dark | on your desktop, right click the newly added dvd-rom device icon, and go to properties |
| 07:16.52 | Fenix-Dark | in general, rename it to whatever you want. then go to device |
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| 07:17.23 | Red_Cloud | ok |
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| 07:17.36 | Fenix-Dark | in device, type /sys/block/hdc |
| 07:17.39 | Fenix-Dark | hit ok, and you should be set |
| 07:17.52 | Red_Cloud | done |
| 07:18.44 | Red_Cloud | I got the error "/sys/block/hdc in /etc/fstab" |
| 07:19.02 | Red_Cloud | mount: can't find /sys/block/hdc in /etc/fstab |
| 07:19.10 | Fenix-Dark | ok |
| 07:19.14 | Fenix-Dark | then change that to /dev/hdc |
| 07:19.24 | Red_Cloud | ok |
| 07:19.50 | Fenix-Dark | this distro has a wierd mount point naming scheme |
| 07:20.06 | Red_Cloud | Same error of : mount: can't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab |
| 07:20.24 | Fenix-Dark | ok, open up fstab as root user |
| 07:20.30 | Red_Cloud | done |
| 07:20.41 | Fenix-Dark | and change the line /dev/hdc to /dev/hdc1 then ctrl + x then hit y to save |
| 07:20.47 | Fenix-Dark | then try again as /dev/hdc1 |
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| 07:22.21 | Fenix-Dark | is it working? |
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| 07:26.00 | dale | hello, I'm having trouble building kdebindings in my 3.5.6 upgrade |
| 07:26.07 | dale | I get this error |
| 07:26.11 | dale | sipqtextQextScintillaLexerRuby.h:91: error: 'class QextScintillaLexerRuby::IndentationWarning' has not been declared |
| 07:26.58 | dale | the error above is just after "Entering directory `/home/build/kde/kdebindings-3.5.6/python/pyqt/qtext'" |
| 07:27.16 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark I believe tht I have had some success with the media. Let me test it a bit and see. |
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| 07:27.27 | Fenix-Dark | ok |
| 07:27.34 | Fenix-Dark | i just setup the same thing for my dvd-rom drive, works for me |
| 07:27.52 | Schalken | this reallyannoys me: after a few minutes of downloading something with kget, it says 'stalled' and i have to pause and resume it. makes kget useless for unattendedly downloading anything over a few MB. |
| 07:28.28 | trulyliu | haha |
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| 07:29.50 | trulyliu | hello |
| 07:29.57 | Fenix-Dark | hi |
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| 07:33.37 | dale | so, does anyone know anything about PyQT and kdebindings? |
| 07:33.57 | dale | I'm guessing myself... |
| 07:37.58 | trulyliu | .. |
| 07:38.25 | wizard123 | hi! |
| 07:38.42 | trulyliu | hi |
| 07:39.30 | dale | Likewise hi |
| 07:39.31 | wizard123 | hello trulyliu |
| 07:39.40 | wizard123 | what's going on here? |
| 07:40.21 | Schalken | many salutations it appears |
| 07:40.29 | wizard123 | how can i change default application asociated with file? |
| 07:40.33 | trulyliu | Talking about kde-cn ? |
| 07:40.50 | trulyliu | In KDE ?? |
| 07:40.55 | dale | Well, I'm looking for assistance getting my kdebindings356 to build... speaking for myself |
| 07:40.59 | wizard123 | yes trulyliu |
| 07:41.45 | Schalken | wizard123: right click on it, go properties, then click on the spanner buttoin next to where it says file type: |
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| 07:42.50 | wizard123 | thanks Schalken |
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| 07:50.20 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark I now have my problem down to an error message: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting |
| 07:50.36 | dale | Hello, when viewing this page http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ |
| 07:50.54 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, thats fine |
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| 07:51.16 | slashseed | hi |
| 07:51.28 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark but I cannot get the permissions to let me open this device. ?? |
| 07:51.29 | dale | At Q16 after QT I get a square box rather than a character... why is that? A font problem? |
| 07:52.18 | LiquidNerd | weekends rawk |
| 07:52.30 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, in your fstab edit the line with /dev/hdc remove the 'ro' all the way on the right |
| 07:52.36 | Fenix-Dark | and the comma next to it |
| 07:52.38 | Fenix-Dark | then save |
| 07:56.21 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark still no cigar |
| 07:56.58 | Red_Cloud | Will I need to recreate the link to my desktop to get rid of the lack of permission? |
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| 07:57.30 | Fenix-Dark | ok, on the properties in the shortcut go to permissions |
| 07:57.39 | Fenix-Dark | tell me what it says next to owner/group/others |
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| 07:58.42 | Red_Cloud | everything is read and write for each catagory and is executable |
| 07:59.27 | Schalken | grrrr why does kget have to stall!!! |
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| 07:59.45 | Red_Cloud | You know, I think that I got my mount point and my location of my device reversed |
| 08:00.28 | Red_Cloud | Shouldn't the mount point be /dev/hdc and the location be /sys/block/hdc? |
| 08:01.13 | Red_Cloud | The meta info says that it is writable |
| 08:01.37 | Schalken | Red_Cloud: location /dev/hdc mount point /sys/block/hdc |
| 08:01.50 | Red_Cloud | OK then it is correct |
| 08:02.43 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, no |
| 08:02.48 | Mase | hey guys, does kde 3.5.6 contain any performance enhancements ? |
| 08:02.51 | Fenix-Dark | /dev/hdX is the device |
| 08:03.01 | Fenix-Dark | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:03.37 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark then my info in the Properties is correct. |
| 08:03.51 | marek | how do i install a system resources desktop widget? |
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| 08:05.06 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, do chmod 770 /dev/hdc1 chmod 770 /sys/dev/hdc |
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| 08:05.38 | Red_Cloud | will do |
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| 08:10.19 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark still same result of mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 08:10.58 | Fenix-Dark | what does the fstab line for /dev/hdc say? |
| 08:12.31 | Red_Cloud | I have reduced it to this /dev/hdc /sys/block/hdc auto |
| 08:13.03 | Fenix-Dark | say anything past auto? |
| 08:13.35 | Red_Cloud | nothing |
| 08:13.40 | Fenix-Dark | oh |
| 08:13.43 | shastry | but but.. is it right to mount stuff to /sys ??? |
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| 08:14.13 | Fenix-Dark | shastry, mountpoint is irrelevant, his particular distro has a funcy mounting naming scheme |
| 08:14.13 | Red_Cloud | I just now deleted "auto" and it seems to work fully. Let me check |
| 08:14.23 | shastry | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.23 | Fenix-Dark | um |
| 08:14.28 | shastry | thats what i have |
| 08:14.31 | Red_Cloud | Let me test it. |
| 08:15.02 | Fenix-Dark | should say /dev/hdc /sys/block/hdc auto noauto,user 0 0 |
| 08:15.20 | shastry | and your distro might need the user to be in a particular group to access the device |
| 08:15.43 | shastry | users |
| 08:16.51 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark could not mount it because of unknown file system type. This may be due to the fact that I have not installed a cd writing program yet. Thanks for your help. You were a life saver! |
| 08:17.12 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, you have a data cd to test? |
| 08:19.11 | Red_Cloud | Let me put one in |
| 08:19.38 | Fenix-Dark | put one in the drive, and as user type 'mount /dev/hdc1 /sys/block/hdc' |
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| 08:19.47 | Zet | hi |
| 08:20.42 | Zet | I think there's supposed to be a way to look at directories by size in Konqueror, so that it draws different sized rectangles according to how much data each subdirectory contains |
| 08:20.49 | Zet | but I can't find that function right now |
| 08:21.14 | Red_Cloud | Fenix-Dark yep I can read the cd. I do not know if I can write to it because it is a read-only cd. But I am very confident that it will now write if i go through a cd-writing package. Thanks |
| 08:21.15 | Jucato | View menu -> View mode -> File size? |
| 08:21.22 | Jucato | Zet: ^^^ |
| 08:21.28 | Fenix-Dark | Red_Cloud, yea, you cant just write to a cd like that |
| 08:21.31 | Fenix-Dark | but you can read it |
| 08:21.40 | Zet | Jucato: there's no "File size" option |
| 08:21.45 | Fenix-Dark | i suggest k3b for cd writing |
| 08:21.52 | Jucato | Zet: no File size view? |
| 08:22.07 | Zet | Jucato: in that menu, there is no option that says "File size" |
| 08:22.22 | Jucato | Zet: View menu -> View mode -> ?? |
| 08:22.27 | Jucato | must be a plugin... |
| 08:22.33 | Red_Cloud | Yep, I like the k3b |
| 08:22.35 | mariux | get filelight Zet |
| 08:22.46 | mariux | i like it better than the fs plugin |
| 08:22.52 | Jucato | Zet: yes, filelight is more useful |
| 08:23.00 | Zet | thanks for the tip |
| 08:23.03 | Jucato | and iirc, flie size view kinda crashes a lot |
| 08:23.06 | mariux | yea |
| 08:23.27 | Jucato | Zet: ah yes, File Size View is part of konq-plugins in kdeaddons |
| 08:23.33 | mariux | i run filelight once a month to find large files i have forgotten about |
| 08:23.38 | Zet | ooh, filelight is NICE |
| 08:23.52 | Jucato | that done, me go now :) |
| 08:24.39 | Zet | kinda slow though. but that's just my old PATA drive :) |
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| 08:26.50 | Smak | anyone know of a kde-app like gnome firestarter? that is production ready? |
| 08:28.41 | chovy | i think i found a bug in konq. |
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| 08:29.19 | chovy | when i save as... and then rename, and download agin, it populates the filename field with my modified name, not the name of the file i'm downloading. |
| 08:29.40 | chovy | it's a problem, because i don't know the name, it's on the previous dialog box, and it's too long to remember. |
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| 08:31.15 | Mase | chovy: bugs.kde.korg |
| 08:31.16 | Mase | opps |
| 08:31.20 | Mase | bugs.kde.org |
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| 08:37.57 | Smak | is transparency only available through xgl? |
| 08:38.03 | logixoul | no |
| 08:38.18 | logixoul | kompmgr has (real) transparency |
| 08:38.26 | logixoul | AIGLX too |
| 08:38.39 | logixoul | and nVidia's compositing |
| 08:38.51 | logixoul | and Luminocity |
| 08:38.56 | Smak | I have a nvidia card... |
| 08:39.06 | logixoul | ok |
| 08:39.35 | Smak | is recommended howto somewhere? |
| 08:39.45 | logixoul | ask your distributors |
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| 08:44.04 | canllaith | gday all |
| 08:46.00 | Mase | gday |
| 08:46.09 | Mase | happy post australia day :P |
| 08:47.46 | canllaith | :) |
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| 08:51.57 | canllaith | Renze: played with the news on the wii yet ? |
| 08:53.07 | qupada | canllaith: how did the prep for the goth party go? |
| 08:53.31 | canllaith | Oh, it's next weekend :) Thus far I haven't done much |
| 08:53.56 | canllaith | I tried to find black nailpolish & lipstick but couldn't. I need to figure out where to buy more 'alternative' stuff |
| 08:54.00 | qupada | ah, i got the impression it was this weekend |
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| 08:54.47 | qupada | heh, the answer is probably some seedy-looking shop in cuba street |
| 08:55.10 | canllaith | possibly. 'The Body Shop' was not a good answer =) |
| 08:55.20 | canllaith | They seem to only have all pinks and reds. |
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| 08:58.13 | qupada | i was looking at canon's stuff. the lenses that caught my eye were $2700 and $3600. i nearly choked |
| 08:59.09 | qupada | (that is 28-80 (i think) f/2.8L USM IV and 70-200 f/2.8 IS USM) |
| 09:00.11 | qupada | i find it mildly amusing too that they don't even have a list price for their 1200mm f/5.6 behemoth. it's "special order only" |
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| 09:18.50 | Schalken | is there a kde applications for vodcasting? |
| 09:19.05 | logixoul | podcasting? |
| 09:19.29 | Daverocks | no, vodcasting as in like podcasting but video |
| 09:19.34 | logixoul | ah |
| 09:20.26 | logixoul | well, KatchTV is a vodcast client, dunno about servers |
| 09:20.39 | Schalken | logixoul: sounds good |
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| 09:28.32 | Desiac | loading kde on my debian laptop, console is in full screen, yet kde is loading in2 a smaller window, anyone help out? |
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| 09:29.29 | Daverocks | Desiac: kde is loading "in a smaller window"? |
| 09:29.29 | Desiac | Daverocks: just not full screen |
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| 09:29.45 | Desiac | loosing bout 1-2 inches around whole image |
| 09:29.45 | logixoul | Desiac: try krandrtray |
| 09:30.27 | thiago | change the resolution |
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| 09:33.17 | Desiac | thiago: im set at my max res, 1024*768. i've tried changeing res ctrl,alt,+/- can chnage but not getting full scr. console was the same size as kde i had to change my grub options from vga=771 to vga=791 to get full screen in console |
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| 09:35.54 | thiago | what is your LCD's native resolution? |
| 09:36.31 | Desiac | 1024*768, just ran that krandrtry, at its not listing 1024*768 only 800*600 |
| 09:37.32 | thiago | that's not the question I asked |
| 09:37.37 | thiago | what is your LCD's native resolution? |
| 09:38.15 | Desiac | 1024*768 |
| 09:38.22 | thiago | and you're at that resolution? |
| 09:39.02 | Desiac | doesn't appear so, when i run krandrtray its showing me at 800*600, and option for 640*480 |
| 09:40.03 | thiago | but not 1024x768? |
| 09:40.08 | Desiac | checked the xorg.conf, display adapter correct and its listing display modes 1024*768 and lower, just not giving me the option in kde |
| 09:40.13 | Desiac | correct, no 1024*768 |
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| 09:40.45 | thiago | then configure your X to have it |
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| 09:41.07 | nuggien | anyone know how to make konsole start with the screen session as the default session? |
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| 09:42.28 | Desiac | thiago: been a long while for me between X configs, under deb any idea which file i need to look at? thnx btw |
| 09:43.39 | thiago | no |
| 09:43.58 | thiago | but reading the X log might help (/var/log/xorg.0.log or something) |
| 09:44.09 | Desiac | nps, thnx anyway |
| 09:44.11 | Desiac | cheers |
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| 09:48.37 | dinolinux | hi, i've just updated my kde to 3.5.6 and it's working well, but i've noticed that passwords are hidden by dots like they are on windows, is it possible to change that? |
| 09:48.51 | logixoul | not easily |
| 09:48.57 | logixoul | it's hardcoded into kstyle |
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| 09:49.15 | logixoul | if you feel like patching the source (a one-liner) and recompiling, then yes |
| 09:49.56 | dinolinux | oh |
| 09:50.17 | logixoul | relevant commit: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdelibs/kdefx/kstyle.cpp?rev=612399&r1=465272&r2=612399 |
| 09:50.34 | logixoul | so just do the opposite change to your sources if you want asterisks |
| 09:51.57 | dinolinux | thanks |
| 09:52.35 | logixoul | np |
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| 09:57.25 | pingveno | I'm having some trouble setting up kweather. I've added on weather stations, but the weather report always shows up as unknown |
| 09:58.19 | pingveno | Like, the only location listed on configure -> Display -> Location is "Unknown Station" |
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| 10:00.41 | pingveno | Weird, they all just suddenly showed up |
| 10:00.45 | pingveno | creepy... |
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| 10:23.45 | Stalwart | in which package arK is usually located? |
| 10:23.58 | Stalwart | or kioslave for .rar probably |
| 10:24.28 | Ardonik | Stalwart: depends on your distro, of course. |
| 10:24.44 | Stalwart | Ardonik: no separate package |
| 10:24.46 | Ardonik | That's the sort of query your package manager can answer. On Mandrivalinux, you'd use urpmf. |
| 10:25.03 | Ardonik | "Search for the package that provides the file having this name." |
| 10:25.05 | Stalwart | Ardonik: can you query and tell me pkg? :D |
| 10:25.10 | Ardonik | There are equivalent commands in all mainstream distros. |
| 10:25.16 | Ardonik | Um, no. Not unless you're running Mandriva. |
| 10:25.29 | Stalwart | afaik pacman can search files only in installed packages |
| 10:25.35 | Ardonik | And I don't know how to use other distro package managers. That'll be for you to find out. |
| 10:25.40 | Stalwart | just tell me pkg name, i'll search for similar name in arch64 |
| 10:25.52 | Stalwart | like kde-filestuff |
| 10:25.57 | Stalwart | or kde-miscshit |
| 10:26.24 | Ardonik | You don't have a package manager that can perform that query? |
| 10:26.36 | Ardonik | Doubtful. |
| 10:26.46 | Ardonik | ardonik@adsl-68-122-48-241:~ [78]$ urpmf "/*bin/*ark" |
| 10:26.47 | Ardonik | kdeutils-ark:/usr/bin/ark |
| 10:26.52 | Ardonik | That's Mandriva only. |
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| 10:27.06 | Stalwart | [stalwart@naga ~]$ sudo pacman -Ss kdeutils |
| 10:27.08 | Stalwart | extra/kdeutils 3.5.6-1 |
| 10:27.10 | Stalwart | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.12 | Stalwart | thanks |
| 10:27.31 | pinotree | $sudo pacman |
| 10:27.33 | pinotree | CHOMP |
| 10:27.36 | Stalwart | ? |
| 10:27.48 | pinotree | you know the arcade game? |
| 10:27.53 | Stalwart | yes |
| 10:28.02 | Ardonik | Sad, kids these days. |
| 10:28.06 | Stalwart | in archlinux kde is powered by super pacman powers :D |
| 10:28.39 | Stalwart | and i've got 3.5.6 a week before release ^_^ |
| 10:29.00 | Stalwart | kde maintainer in arch is great |
| 10:29.05 | pinotree | well, i hope the packages are uptodate to the very latest fixes for .6 |
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| 10:29.33 | pinotree | there was a couple of quite important fixes |
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| 10:30.15 | Stalwart | tarballs were frozen for a while before release to allow mirrors to sync |
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| 10:30.34 | pinotree | tarball was updated, iit |
| 10:30.38 | pinotree | *iirc |
| 10:31.20 | Stalwart | if they were then maintainer updated pkgs too |
| 10:31.34 | Stalwart | kdelibs 3.5.6-2 |
| 10:31.40 | Stalwart | probably kdelibs were updated |
| 10:32.11 | pinotree | yup |
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| 10:34.15 | Stalwart | :D |
| 10:34.18 | Stalwart | all your base!! |
| 10:34.42 | Zet | haha, that's a good quite msg |
| 10:34.47 | Zet | also quite |
| 10:34.51 | Zet | ...quit |
| 10:34.52 | Zet | dammit |
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| 10:35.51 | scx | why is it that the transparency of my apps is gettig lower? |
| 10:35.57 | scx | with the time |
| 10:36.16 | Stalwart | beryl focus tracking? |
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| 10:36.27 | scx | konverstation is now 50% |
| 10:36.34 | scx | not using Beryl |
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| 10:36.42 | scx | just KDE translucency |
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| 10:36.54 | Stalwart | check transparency settings |
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| 10:37.45 | scx | well, all's fine |
| 10:38.28 | scx | can't see any reason why it just get's away, my transparency settings are 70 |
| 10:38.52 | scx | but I have to move the opacity high egvery few hours |
| 10:39.23 | scx | it's going, goin, gone! |
| 10:39.30 | Stalwart | o.O |
| 10:39.46 | Stalwart | why don't you use beryl? |
| 10:39.52 | scx | too slow |
| 10:39.54 | Stalwart | it has much options for such stuff |
| 10:39.59 | Stalwart | beryl slow? |
| 10:40.11 | Stalwart | what video card and driver do you have? |
| 10:40.14 | scx | slower than this yes |
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| 10:40.57 | scx | 3D card is fine: nvidia 7800 official driver 512MB 1GB shared |
| 10:41.13 | scx | but is slow |
| 10:41.36 | scx | although I prefer kwin |
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| 10:41.52 | scx | Beryl is also a bit unstable |
| 10:42.11 | scx | and don't make me start with XGL |
| 10:42.25 | scx | no ideas why ? |
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| 10:46.45 | scx | guess no |
| 10:47.14 | scx | I'll manually check the config thanks |
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| 10:48.14 | Stalwart | latest beryl is unstable, yes, i use christmas cvs |
| 10:48.24 | Stalwart | or svn, idon't remember =] |
| 10:48.28 | DeeTahPanLtah | hi guys |
| 10:48.34 | Stalwart | i have 7200 |
| 10:48.37 | DeeTahPanLtah | i have EXTREMELY irritating problem with amarok. |
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| 10:48.59 | DeeTahPanLtah | well, it stops every 20s or so for a sec to fill a buffer |
| 10:49.21 | DeeTahPanLtah | how to make buffer bigger or give amarok engine a higher priority? |
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| 10:49.26 | scx | kaffeine works fine? |
| 10:49.35 | DeeTahPanLtah | i dont actually use kaffeine |
| 10:49.40 | scx | to check |
| 10:49.41 | pinotree | DeeTahPanLtah: --> #amarok |
| 10:49.48 | scx | if there's a xine issue |
| 10:50.05 | Stalwart | DeeTahPanLtah: are you sure you're playing music from hdd? |
| 10:50.20 | DeeTahPanLtah | Stalwart: yah, from fat parition |
| 10:50.37 | DeeTahPanLtah | but it used to be fine before i set a huge playlist |
| 10:51.20 | scx | database? |
| 10:51.25 | DeeTahPanLtah | sqlite |
| 10:51.29 | DeeTahPanLtah | should switch to mysql? |
| 10:51.41 | scx | noone should switch to mysql |
| 10:51.48 | DeeTahPanLtah | why? ;d |
| 10:51.50 | scx | psql is much better |
| 10:52.04 | scx | mysql is good for masochists |
| 10:52.10 | DeeTahPanLtah | why? ;d |
| 10:52.16 | scx | anyway, I don't think it is related |
| 10:52.21 | Renze | please keep your biased opinions to yourself, scx |
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| 10:52.33 | scx | really, check with kaffeine |
| 10:52.36 | Stalwart | i have sqlite for 30gigs of music, it's fine |
| 10:52.40 | Stalwart | works fast |
| 10:52.49 | DeeTahPanLtah | i aint got any movies bigger than 30secs ;p |
| 10:52.53 | scx | yes |
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| 10:53.54 | scx | Renze: what new you're always agree with me |
| 10:54.24 | scx | try kaffeine, if it is fine you are 100% secure it is amarok |
| 10:54.30 | Renze | scx: I happen to like mysql... and pgsql... |
| 10:55.17 | scx | well Renze: I think it is MySQL the one that hates me, I always, always have ptoblems with it. |
| 10:55.36 | scx | I'm happy with psql |
| 10:55.39 | Renze | scx: always works fine for me... I guess I just know how to talk to it ;) |
| 10:55.49 | scx | I have a few sqlite db's also |
| 10:56.06 | scx | :) |
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| 10:56.55 | Renze | plus, more webhosting firms use mysql than pgsql, so it is a good idea for me to know how to use it |
| 10:56.57 | scx | maybe I'm not of it's kind |
| 10:57.24 | scx | well my host uses psql also |
| 10:57.28 | canllaith | argh hurry up and be tomorrow so I can get my new lens >.< |
| 10:57.33 | canllaith | Hiii! |
| 10:57.38 | Renze | hi canllaith |
| 10:57.53 | canllaith | I found a really really really nice really cheap lens that will be SO much fun for my new camera and I want it now :( |
| 10:58.05 | Renze | patience is a virtue, or something |
| 10:58.18 | canllaith | as in $190 cheap (The one I've borrowed and am using atm is $1200) |
| 10:58.22 | Renze | not that I'm terribly virtuous |
| 10:58.41 | canllaith | but it's gorgeous, oh so crisp and sharp prime lens. It's so cheap 'cause it's fixed 50mm and everyone wants zooms, but I am going to have SO much fun with it. |
| 10:58.56 | canllaith | No, well, neither am I, so phooey to patience. |
| 11:00.04 | Renze | canllaith: oh, and I totally dig the wii news channel |
| 11:00.09 | canllaith | http://flickr.com/photos/tchwang/189485969/ |
| 11:00.17 | canllaith | http://flickr.com/photos/bigbax/243503533/ |
| 11:00.23 | canllaith | both taken with this sub $200 lens |
| 11:00.32 | canllaith | Yeah, it's cool! Have you played with the globe view? |
| 11:01.09 | Renze | I like the candle shot |
| 11:01.23 | Renze | canllaith: yeah... the shifting pages is a little disconcerting, though |
| 11:01.34 | canllaith | Be warned, the next time I see you will involve much squealing and pointing at my new camera. |
| 11:01.53 | Renze | oooookay |
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| 11:04.04 | Renze | canllaith: by the way, it's tomorrow now ;) |
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| 11:08.17 | canllaith | Yes but no lens yet :( |
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| 11:13.24 | qupada | apparently you can get some really good lenses for canon cameras that are made for real cheap in russia |
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| 11:14.29 | qupada | canllaith: check out www.dansdata.com, the guy who owns that site is into canon dslr's, has some really cool shots |
| 11:14.46 | Smak | how come only one refresh rate shows up for each possible screen resolution? |
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| 11:15.06 | Renze | Smak: because those are the only refresh rates being reported by X |
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| 11:15.58 | Smak | I hade many more options before I added the xcomposite section. How can I set a refresh rate manually? |
| 11:16.23 | Skrot- | Hi. Can anyone with KDE 3.5.6 reproduce this behaviour: http://folk.ntnu.no/~romnes/diggcom.kde.3.5.6.ogg (movie)? |
| 11:16.25 | Renze | by adding your own modelines |
| 11:16.56 | Kamesh | Smak: If your monitor supports then you can change the setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 11:17.07 | Kamesh | to get higher refresh rates |
| 11:17.16 | Smak | actually I want to go lower :P |
| 11:17.18 | qupada | i don't trust X anyway. i get two refresh rate choices; 50Hz and 51Hz. regardless my monitor actually refreshes at 75Hz |
| 11:17.44 | canllaith | qupada: I don't think I'd buy anything that wasn't a canon |
| 11:17.50 | canllaith | (lenses) |
| 11:17.57 | Anarky | Smak: try krandrtray |
| 11:18.05 | canllaith | I've tried quite a few other brands (mostly tamron and sigma) and I just wasn't that impressed. |
| 11:18.37 | Smak | again, I only get the 75hz optiong |
| 11:18.47 | canllaith | atm I have the 18-55 (came with the 20D) and the 28-135 IS USM... the IS lens is fantastic, and almost never gets taken off the 20D except for close macro stuff... |
| 11:19.01 | canllaith | I'm seriously tempted to get the 24-105 IS USM L for the 400D |
| 11:19.13 | qupada | canllaith: i guess you have to put it down to do you trust a) their glassmaking skills (and admittedly in lenses made in eastern europe, that is a bit iffy) and b) their competency in reverse-engineering the prototocol the lens uses to connect to the camera |
| 11:19.27 | canllaith | Until I save up my pennies to get the L lens for the 400D though I' |
| 11:19.36 | canllaith | I'm gonna grab the 50mm prime tomorrow and have some fun with that. |
| 11:19.54 | canllaith | I'd just rather spend the money for a known brand where I know what I'm going to get is all. |
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| 11:20.24 | canllaith | I'm sure there are some really exceptional 3rd party lenses out there, but at least if I buy canon I know I wont get total crap. |
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| 11:20.46 | canllaith | To figure out what 3rd party lenses are good would require a lot of research and trial and error. |
| 11:21.12 | qupada | personally i wouldn't rule anything out. if you can get a say 18mm fisheye for 1/3 of the price of canon's one, looking past the horrendous chromatic aberrations might not be so difficult |
| 11:21.39 | canllaith | I"d rather pay 3x the price if it will get me better quality. |
| 11:22.16 | qupada | fisheye lenses are fun, after all |
| 11:22.17 | canllaith | Everyone choses their compromises :) |
| 11:22.17 | canllaith | Yes! |
| 11:22.22 | qupada | although the focal length multiplier kinda screws it up |
| 11:22.30 | canllaith | There is the canon ... 10-22 I think that I played with recently |
| 11:22.50 | canllaith | Fun, but expensive for something I wouldn't use often. Maybe I should look at a very cheap wide from tamron or something. |
| 11:22.53 | canllaith | Or a prime |
| 11:23.36 | qupada | if you often take photos of the inside of houses, a wide angle is quite a good tool |
| 11:24.31 | canllaith | http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/ |
| 11:24.37 | canllaith | usually landscape and macro |
| 11:24.53 | canllaith | a wide would be nice for photographing events though, like family parties where everyone is indoors |
| 11:25.00 | qupada | i know, i've looked. was meaning to ask you about some of those actually |
| 11:25.10 | qupada | be right back though |
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| 11:27.25 | canllaith | wb |
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| 11:28.10 | qupada | anyway, given a ridiculously large supply of money, the lenses i would pick from canon's range are these: http://canon.co.nz/products/cameras_lenses_accessories/standard_zoom_lenses/ef24-70mm_f2.8l_usm.html http://canon.co.nz/products/cameras_lenses_accessories/telephoto_zoom_lenses/ef_70-200mm2.8lisusm.html |
| 11:28.17 | Smak | even with a custom modeline at 60hz, my resoultion is being set to 75hz |
| 11:28.33 | sebbar | hi, what's the channel of the translation team? |
| 11:29.04 | canllaith | Nice, although that 24-70 is huge and heavy. |
| 11:29.15 | canllaith | Fantastic lens, absolutely amazing, but huge. |
| 11:29.21 | qupada | canllaith: yeah, no doubt. it's also $2700 |
| 11:29.25 | canllaith | OUch. |
| 11:29.27 | canllaith | Ouch* |
| 11:29.32 | qupada | the 70-200 IS USM is $3600 |
| 11:29.42 | qupada | Smak: the thing is, it's going to pick the best res/refresh it can, if it has the option to do 75Hz, it's going to. you have to adjust things to prevent it from being able to use that mode |
| 11:29.53 | canllaith | The 24-105L is about $1800 I think, which is what I'll get in about a month after I've paid off my credit card from buying the 400D :P |
| 11:30.12 | Smak | but how do I stop it. |
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| 11:34.07 | humphrey | Hi, i am building kde 3.5.6 packages Slackware, the maintainer has no pc/time (dot.kde.org) Can I upload them? |
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| 11:35.41 | qupada | canllaith: the other thing about the bigger, i don't know if they've fixed this in the 400D, but the issue was stated with the 300D, if your lens is too big (that is diameter or length), if you take a shot with the flash you tend to get a dark arc in the bottom of the frame where the lens gets in the way of the flash |
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| 11:36.40 | canllaith | qupada: I think the lens is at the same height |
| 11:36.51 | canllaith | humphrey: Email sysadmin@kde.org and ask them about it, I'm sure they'd love to have your packages! |
| 11:37.08 | canllaith | They're the guys who have access to all the servers and stuff :) |
| 11:37.22 | canllaith | qupada: sorry, not lens, flash. Bleh, I'm tired. So I imagine that problem is the same. |
| 11:37.29 | qupada | isn't there a public 'incoming' folder on ftp.kde.org for that purpose? |
| 11:37.40 | canllaith | I don't use the flash. and I have no idea about public incoming folder. |
| 11:37.59 | qupada | well there's something in the motd or something about it |
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| 11:41.08 | ravermeister | hello since a few days my source deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main didn't work anymore |
| 11:41.15 | ravermeister | i only find sources for edgy |
| 11:41.22 | Renze | ravermeister: #kubuntu |
| 11:41.28 | ravermeister | okay thx |
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| 11:41.44 | FrancescsoW | hi kde |
| 11:41.54 | qupada | humphrey: http://rafb.net/p/VY7xu981.html |
| 11:42.00 | FrancescsoW | I get this error |
| 11:42.11 | FrancescsoW | "The KDE mediamanager is not running " |
| 11:42.18 | FrancescsoW | I tried to open media:/ |
| 11:42.30 | FrancescsoW | what to do now ? |
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| 11:42.51 | humphrey | canllaith: I mailed Slack maintanier JC, ok I will |
| 11:43.24 | Smak | when I switch to the "nv" driver I get tons of resolutions and refresh rates, but not with the nvidia driver. Any ideas? |
| 11:44.13 | humphrey | qupada: thanks |
| 11:44.51 | qupada | humphrey: i guess what you're doing counts as a 'contribution' |
| 11:45.44 | canllaith | good idea Renze |
| 11:46.45 | qupada | night |
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| 11:48.15 | humphrey | qupada: its building right now, amd 3200+ doesn't help much :) |
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| 11:49.32 | qupada | heh, my kde builds usually take a few days. not at all from lack of cpu power, i just get distracted and want cpu power for other things. today i had 5 dvds to copy |
| 11:50.03 | qupada | so i just control-c portage at whatever point it's up to and carry on at another time |
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| 11:52.22 | johnn | qupada why not set PORTAGE_NICENESS ? ;) |
| 11:54.34 | qupada | i do, i just prefer my system to remain a little bit responsive. two (or usually more, when i'm doing dvds there is usually more than one undergoing a shrinking operation at once) all asking for 100% of your cpu does not make for responsiveness |
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| 11:56.34 | qupada | in fact it usually results in a load average of between 7 and 10, which really isn't fun at all |
| 11:56.42 | johnn | ok not set the niceness to <0 but to 19 ;) |
| 11:57.01 | qupada | it's on 5 |
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| 11:57.16 | mariux | 5 is actually "below" average |
| 11:57.19 | qupada | believe me i have thought this throught quite thoroughly |
| 11:57.37 | qupada | exactly |
| 11:59.58 | mariux | whats the switch to tell the kernel that not to care about the niceness being above 0 in respects to speedstepping? |
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| 12:04.34 | johnn | mariux you can set this with /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load (if i understand what you mean) |
| 12:04.50 | mariux | thanks |
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| 12:08.21 | johnn | about powermanagment.. is there a kde app that graphs the battery levels? |
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| 12:10.25 | sredna | johnn: Yes |
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| 12:11.10 | johnn | sredna whats its name then?! ;) |
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| 12:11.51 | sredna | johnn: I can't remember, I don't use it. I believe it is a kicker applet |
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| 12:12.56 | sredna | johnn: There is a control module called 'battery monitor' on my system that can control it |
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| 12:15.06 | Jell-O-Fishi | hi all |
| 12:15.53 | Jell-O-Fishi | is there anyway to default kate to use a currently open kate to open files ? (for example when called from the command line with kate <filename>) |
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| 12:16.25 | Jell-O-Fishi | i know there's the --use switch. is there any way to make that behaviour default |
| 12:16.42 | sredna | Jell-O-Fishi: Make the kate command 'kate -u'. You can create an alias in your ~/.bashrc file and edit the command KDE uses |
| 12:17.08 | Jell-O-Fishi | right -.- |
| 12:17.24 | Jell-O-Fishi | err.. but what if it's not called from bash ? |
| 12:17.33 | Jell-O-Fishi | argg.. never mind |
| 12:17.39 | Jell-O-Fishi | i'll do it the hard way |
| 12:17.40 | Jell-O-Fishi | thanks |
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| 12:17.48 | sredna | Jell-O-Fishi: As I said, edit the kate.desktop file (using the menu editor) |
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| 12:29.36 | mariux | have there been reports on kpdf compilation failing in 3.5.6? |
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| 12:30.56 | marti | hi everyone! :) |
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| 12:31.36 | marti | is there a way to use scroogle as an serach engine in konqueror? |
| 12:31.50 | mariux | sure |
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| 12:32.12 | mariux | you mean the inline searching or the seperate searchbox? |
| 12:32.19 | marti | yes. |
| 12:32.25 | mariux | when i search in google i just go "gg test" |
| 12:32.26 | logixoul | no, actually you can't. not easily. |
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| 12:32.39 | logixoul | it uses POST to get the search results. |
| 12:32.46 | logixoul | KDE's web shortcuts use GET |
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| 12:33.19 | marti | hmm.. scroogle sais POST is better somehow.. |
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| 12:33.29 | mariux | ahh |
| 12:33.52 | logixoul | well, the standard says POST is for sending data to be stored and GET is for sending requests for variable data |
| 12:34.04 | logixoul | so i'd really like to see their argument :P |
| 12:34.39 | marti | mariux: note that http://www.scroogle.org/ and google are not related really.. |
| 12:35.00 | marti | is there something related scroogle somewhere? |
| 12:35.09 | mariux | it was an example, i was going to get into how to add new ones in the settings menu |
| 12:35.15 | marti | something similar i mean.. |
| 12:36.54 | logixoul | aah |
| 12:37.16 | logixoul | so it's scroogle's *entire* *purpose* to use POST instead of get |
| 12:37.50 | logixoul | soo... you want something similar to scroogle, but compatible with KDE web shortcuts? |
| 12:38.11 | marti | would be nice .. |
| 12:38.19 | logixoul | that's impossible, as the two conditions are mutually exclusive ;) |
| 12:38.24 | logixoul | privacy=POST |
| 12:38.30 | logixoul | KDE web shortcuts=GET |
| 12:39.02 | logixoul | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88623 |
| 12:39.05 | bugbot | KDE bug 88623 in general "Web shortcuts with POST instead of GET" [Wishlist,New] |
| 12:39.08 | mariux | you could maybe make a page that takes gets and posts them |
| 12:39.33 | logixoul | yeah, but that'll be about as hard as implementing bug 88623 ;) |
| 12:40.48 | marti | there is also a sherlock-stuff search on mycroft.mozdev.org for scroogle.. |
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| 12:43.58 | marti | another thing: is there something planned as an pure web-browser for kde? |
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| 12:44.23 | logixoul | and Konqueror's impure, because...? |
| 12:44.34 | logixoul | you don't like it's a file manager, too? |
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| 12:44.46 | mariux | konq my favorite app ever |
| 12:44.47 | marti | i dont like it when it's all in the same window :/ |
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| 12:45.01 | mariux | marti: then put it in two differente windows |
| 12:45.18 | mariux | having pdf, file, sftp and web in same windows <3 |
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| 12:46.28 | logixoul | marti: well, if you wanna make web browsing and file management look different, utilize profiles ;) |
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| 12:47.05 | marti | i like konq as web browser most.. and the filemanager isn't bed too bot i dont like it all together.. the combination is random and not reeally useful for me.. |
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| 12:47.46 | x_link | texnofobix: Hi mate! =) |
| 12:47.57 | logixoul | marti: there's actually a good reason to have exactly these two functions in one app |
| 12:48.11 | marti | i dont want that they look dofferent, when eqal functons are eqally available its cool.. |
| 12:48.40 | mariux | marti: open two konq windows and just say to your self: "This is my web browser window and the other is the file browser" |
| 12:48.52 | marti | the only reason i see are things like ftp and so on.. |
| 12:49.26 | mariux | marti: well, why not? |
| 12:49.48 | logixoul | marti: konqueror is, in fact, an universal component embedder. then, there exist file management components and file viewing components (which in turn are divided into html, image, video, etc) |
| 12:50.08 | mariux | yea, konq is a shell that you can put stuff into |
| 12:50.33 | logixoul | marti: what we call "web browser" is simply konqueror viewing a html file. the Back and Forward buttons and the Location field work as they work for any other filetype |
| 12:50.41 | mariux | generator_pdf.cpp:454: error: initializing argument 1 of 'PSOutputDev::PSOutputDev(char*, XRef*, Catalog*, int, int, PSOutMode, int, int, GBool, int, int, int, int, GBool)' kpdf3.5.6 fails.... |
| 12:51.15 | marti | mariux: when i call an external thing (like a newsfeed for example or the drive icons out of my kicker) they areopen in the same window.. i dont like this.. |
| 12:52.02 | logixoul | marti: konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> web behavior -> advanced settings -> open external links in new windows |
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| 12:53.04 | logixoul | marti: that is, uncheck "open as tab in existing konqueror when url is called externally" |
| 12:53.07 | marti | logixoul: that would meen 100 windows an i would forced to put them together mb miself :/ |
| 12:53.49 | logixoul | marti: you just said you don't *want* them together - "when i call an external thing they are open in the same window" |
| 12:54.13 | mariux | i think he wants all his drive tabs in one windows and all the web pages in another |
| 12:54.19 | logixoul | she* |
| 12:54.30 | marti | i dont want directorrys and web-stuff together i mean.. |
| 12:54.31 | mariux | oh :) |
| 12:55.22 | logixoul | marti: well that's fine, but unless lots of people feel like that, the situation won't be changed |
| 12:55.28 | marti | "she" is better than all the time "he" a good mix would be nice XD |
| 12:56.59 | logixoul | marti: btw, you can get your "pure web browser" right now - use Konqueror for web browsing and Dolphin for file management |
| 12:57.09 | logixoul | i use konq for both |
| 12:57.32 | marti | Dolphin? i never herad of this.. |
| 12:57.42 | logixoul | it's a file manager designed to be easy to use |
| 12:57.46 | marti | i only konow krusader.. |
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| 12:57.57 | logixoul | krusader's ui stinks |
| 12:58.40 | marti | i also don't really like it.. |
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| 13:01.07 | johnn | only thing i miss in krusader is a thumbnail preview mode... imho usability wise its much better than dolphin/konqueror when you are used to they keyboard shortcuts.. |
| 13:04.29 | marti | hmm i not often use keyboard shortcuts.. |
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| 13:06.02 | marti | dolfin seems to have some vista-ish address-bar normaly i often write into it.. |
| 13:06.26 | johnn | you can change this in the settings |
| 13:06.35 | mariux | i use just the keyboard most of the time |
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| 13:07.02 | logixoul | marti: you shouldn't generally need to write |
| 13:07.17 | logixoul | marti: my guess is, you're just used to it from Windows |
| 13:07.36 | logixoul | marti: and Konq, really |
| 13:08.05 | marti | hmm, some kind of combination of text-fieldish and vista-ish seems cool.. |
| 13:08.21 | johnn | marti: press ctrl+l ,) |
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| 13:12.36 | marti | hmm.. i less used it in windows because the konq-addressbar has cool completation of the address.. |
| 13:12.44 | logixoul | true |
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| 13:13.40 | mariux | dolphin is nice, if we didn't have konq i would use it |
| 13:13.58 | logixoul | so you like konq better as a file manager? |
| 13:14.13 | mariux | i like konq better as a sum |
| 13:14.26 | logixoul | aha |
| 13:14.26 | mariux | and also, there are no tabs in dolphin |
| 13:14.41 | logixoul | who needs tabs for file management? :) |
| 13:15.00 | mariux | oh my, amarok integration in the sidebar |
| 13:15.20 | logixoul | in dolphin's sidebar?! |
| 13:15.24 | mariux | yea |
| 13:15.33 | logixoul | hell |
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| 13:15.45 | mariux | i've been very negative to dolphin because i've been afraid they want to get rid of konq, but this is nice |
| 13:15.46 | logixoul | things have gotten out of hand since i last went there |
| 13:17.12 | marti | amarok doenst work on my computer.. so i use kaffeine at the moment because juK is sounstable.. |
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| 13:17.34 | mariux | i only wish i could have both bookmarks and infoview in the sidebar at the same time |
| 13:17.42 | logixoul | marti: come to #amarok and we might rectify the problems ;) |
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| 13:18.29 | logixoul | kaffeine is godawful when it comes to music |
| 13:18.33 | marti | my linus is actually trash.. there are many unsolved dependencys :#( |
| 13:18.45 | logixoul | heh |
| 13:19.03 | logixoul | you shouldn't let that happen |
| 13:19.05 | marti | linux i mean ^^ |
| 13:19.28 | marti | jeah.. but.. suse sux.. |
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| 13:19.44 | logixoul | i use suse and haven't found anything better fwiw =) |
| 13:19.59 | marti | its really hard to find the packages i need.. |
| 13:20.14 | logixoul | do you know http://packages.opensuse-community.org ? |
| 13:20.35 | logixoul | man that domain is long |
| 13:21.09 | marti | hmm thanksfor the link, i will try it.. |
| 13:21.09 | johnn | atleast its descriptive ;) |
| 13:21.35 | logixoul | heh, sure |
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| 13:22.07 | marti | sometimes are also packages needed with some ".so." stuff i never got what that should mean. |
| 13:22.08 | Bille | logixoul, marti: search was just added to the build service this week. |
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| 13:24.36 | logixoul | Bille: um, can't find it |
| 13:24.47 | logixoul | Bille: there's no search box in http://build.opensuse.org/ |
| 13:24.55 | Bille | http://build.opensuse.org/search |
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| 13:25.04 | Bille | see link at bottom of the page |
| 13:25.10 | Bille | as with most things it's a WIP |
| 13:25.24 | logixoul | ooh, cool |
| 13:25.40 | marti | is there something what can install this stuff automatically via yast? |
| 13:26.08 | logixoul | thanks Bille. that link should be made really visible btw. |
| 13:26.31 | logixoul | marti: you mean you want to click a link to a rpm in a web page and have it directly install? |
| 13:29.30 | marti | no, yast has some thing where i can add sources for autonmatic installation.. |
| 13:29.31 | logixoul | correct, that's the main feature yast has |
| 13:29.32 | logixoul | it's called "installation sources" |
| 13:29.32 | logixoul | aka "package repositories" |
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| 13:29.33 | logixoul | you can see it in the Software section of yast |
| 13:29.34 | eNTi|notebook | anyone knows what's necessary to have kde automount my usb disks? is hal enough? |
| 13:29.34 | logixoul | eNTi|notebook: yea i think so |
| 13:29.43 | eNTi|notebook | k |
| 13:30.03 | marti | i know this.. i looked for some really bis responity wich have all the stuff i need.. |
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| 13:30.30 | Jucato | Sho_: you awake? |
| 13:30.45 | logixoul | marti: haha, bis responity? you mean "busy repository"? |
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| 13:31.07 | marti | big i mean.. |
| 13:31.24 | marti | keyboard suck ^^ |
| 13:31.38 | logixoul | i can't get by with less than 10 repos right now :) |
| 13:31.39 | Sho_ | Jucato: Slightly |
| 13:31.56 | Jucato | Sho_: I finally figured out the last errors in compiling basket |
| 13:32.17 | Sho_ | Jucato: So from now on you can collect build errors in a Basket |
| 13:32.17 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 13:32.26 | Jucato | Sho_: it seems that it was not "friendly" to the src/build/install directory setup |
| 13:32.34 | Jucato | aka, src and build must be one and the same |
| 13:33.06 | Sho_ | Jucato: Ah. Yeah, it's fairly easy to break an autocrap build system in that way. |
| 13:33.42 | marti | logixoul: can you give me the most important repo-thingis? |
| 13:33.57 | logixoul | marti: what's your videocard? |
| 13:34.41 | Jucato | Sho_: um... "that way"? it's easy breaking autocrap using the separate directories or the combined src+build directory? |
| 13:35.02 | Sho_ | Jucato: It's easy to break one variant when only paying attention to the other |
| 13:35.08 | marti | hm? eerm geforce-4-mx 400 i think, why? |
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| 13:36.58 | marti | actually i think the only thing thats working right on my system is the graphics driver XD |
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| 13:37.47 | logixoul | marti: wait, i'll pm you |
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| 13:38.16 | Sho_ | Jucato: When you, as a developer, only use builddir==srcdir as your build system evolves and you don't test builddir!=srcdir, it's happens easily that you write your build files in a way that prevents builddir!=srcdir from working properly, and the other way around as well. auto* is finicky and there are many ways to shoot yourself in the foot. |
| 13:38.33 | marti | logixoul: ok |
| 13:38.38 | Jucato | Sho_: ooooh that clears it up. thanks |
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| 13:41.38 | marti | logixoul: i cannot sent you pm-s i think.. but i've got the links, thank you! |
| 13:41.48 | logixoul | np =) |
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| 13:44.13 | ramvi | Hi! When installing kde4, isn't the startkde.xml-thing set up automaticly. It just starts 3.5.5 here.. |
| 13:44.20 | marti | actually i'm using suse 10.0 i thuink i schold order an actual dvd.. |
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| 13:45.36 | logixoul | marti: you should definitely upgrade. otherwise you won't get security fixes. |
| 13:45.40 | logixoul | ramvi: you do know that kde4 isn't in usable state yet, right |
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| 13:46.01 | ramvi | Yeah, but I'm a dev and want to take it for a drive |
| 13:46.09 | logixoul | ah ok |
| 13:46.24 | Jucato | #kde4-devel and http://developernew.kde.org |
| 13:46.30 | marti | logixoul: ok.. could i have problems with installing over my trashed system? |
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| 13:46.38 | logixoul | marti: unlikely |
| 13:47.40 | marti | thats good :D |
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| 13:49.28 | Jucato | Sho_: in Gentoo, for example you emerged kdepim, then only later emerged Basket, do you have to sort of re-emerge kdepim again? |
| 13:49.48 | Sho_ | Jucato: No, why would you? |
| 13:49.55 | Jucato | heh just wondering |
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| 13:50.05 | ronny | hi |
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| 13:50.29 | ronny | where to ask, if i want to fix js-compatibility problems with konqueror ? |
| 13:50.45 | Jucato | #khtml |
| 13:50.53 | Jucato | ronny: ^^^ |
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| 14:00.01 | devilsadvocate | are .ktheme files now obsolete , or can i rename to .kth ? |
| 14:00.19 | Jucato | devilsadvocate: iirc, they're .kth |
| 14:01.02 | devilsadvocate | Jucato, a theme i downloaded has a .ktheme file in it.. i'll try to rename it as .kth and see if kcontrol recognizes it |
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| 14:01.40 | Jucato | ok |
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| 14:04.06 | x_link | hrmm |
| 14:04.21 | x_link | My folder in Konqueror are really bright. |
| 14:04.25 | x_link | They were not like this before. |
| 14:04.39 | x_link | I changed all settings back in the Control center. But it's still like this. |
| 14:04.45 | x_link | Does anybody know what I could do/try? |
| 14:04.57 | Jucato | your folder?your icons? or what? |
| 14:05.05 | Skrot- | screenshot please |
| 14:05.48 | x_link | Jucato: My folder icons in Konqueror |
| 14:05.49 | x_link | Skrot-: Okey |
| 14:05.52 | x_link | Hold on... |
| 14:06.10 | Skrot- | hey, let go of that.. |
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| 14:06.34 | Jucato | oh my... sorry |
| 14:06.59 | x_link | http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop4zl1.jpg |
| 14:07.21 | x_link | To bright |
| 14:07.26 | x_link | They are supposed to be more blue. |
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| 14:08.36 | Skrot- | I've got no idea how to even reproduce that look. Is it just the icons? |
| 14:09.12 | x_link | I fixed it |
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| 14:09.19 | Skrot- | What was the problem? |
| 14:09.21 | Jucato | x_link: try KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons -> Advanced tab |
| 14:09.22 | x_link | Skrot-: Yeah, but I fixd it. |
| 14:09.26 | x_link | Jucato: I did... |
| 14:09.36 | Jucato | hah I was too late... |
| 14:09.48 | x_link | The thing is that I never touched the colors. So now I tried to change it and it worked. |
| 14:10.01 | Jucato | ok... |
| 14:10.41 | x_link | So.. now I changed the color and then set it back to default again. Now it looks like it should. |
| 14:11.01 | x_link | Jucato: Do you know when there will be a release on Debian Etch for KDE 3.5.6 ? |
| 14:11.02 | Skrot- | Seems you could also achieve that effect by kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced tab -> set effect (Default Icon) -> Desaturate -> ~50% |
| 14:11.09 | x_link | I have 3.5.5 and I would like to get 3.5.6 |
| 14:11.12 | Jucato | x_link: not really, I have no idea about Debian... |
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| 14:11.22 | x_link | Jucato: Okey. |
| 14:11.30 | Sho_ | x_link: Debian Etch is frozen for release, I believe |
| 14:11.34 | x_link | Cause I tried apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and none of it helped. |
| 14:11.37 | Sho_ | x_link: I.e. there probably won't be a 3.5.6 for it |
| 14:11.43 | x_link | ahhh ok =/ |
| 14:11.45 | x_link | Damn it. |
| 14:11.51 | x_link | What will be the difference ? |
| 14:11.59 | x_link | Between 3.5.5 and 3.5.6. ? |
| 14:12.10 | Jucato | http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php |
| 14:12.15 | Sho_ | see http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php |
| 14:12.27 | Jucato | hi Sho_!!! |
| 14:12.46 | Sho_ | Jucato: We've already talked today, you know .. ;) |
| 14:13.11 | Jucato | that's just how happy I am to see that you're more than just slightly awake now :P |
| 14:13.18 | x_link | I remember when I installed Debian Etch and KDE, the first time it worked good. But since I was a newbie I did something wrong and had to re-install Debian. |
| 14:13.35 | x_link | AFter that my KDE was messed up for like 1-1.5 month. Had to reboot all the time, KDE crashed all the time etc. |
| 14:13.40 | x_link | Now it works so good. |
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| 14:46.11 | nceterval | Is it possible to access FTP over SSL shares (referred to as FTPS, NOT SFTP, I believe) in Konqueror? |
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| 14:47.39 | Jucato | fish:/ ? |
| 14:48.00 | Skrot- | fish:/ is regular ssh |
| 14:48.09 | nceterval | Right |
| 14:48.28 | nceterval | Fish is lovely, by the way. |
| 14:48.30 | Skrot- | While sftp:/ is secure ftp, which is also a part of ssh if im not wrong |
| 14:48.48 | Jucato | ok... |
| 14:48.50 | Skrot- | But you're talking about a regular ftp-server communicating using ssl? |
| 14:48.56 | Jucato | I always get confused with these things... |
| 14:48.57 | nceterval | Right |
| 14:49.16 | Skrot- | Take a look at fish's code and you'll get the general idea =) |
| 14:49.32 | Skrot- | nceterval: Is that a common standard? |
| 14:49.53 | sredna | I have no ftps protocol installede |
| 14:49.57 | nceterval | I believe so. |
| 14:50.06 | GNU\colossus | ftps ist ftp with the control channel secured via ssl |
| 14:50.09 | sredna | There is ftp, sftp and fish |
| 14:50.25 | Skrot- | That sounds about right, sredna |
| 14:50.33 | Skrot- | I don't think there's a ioslave for ftp over ssl |
| 14:50.55 | sredna | .. other than fish |
| 14:50.59 | Skrot- | thats not ftp |
| 14:51.25 | sredna | No, that is right |
| 14:51.26 | nceterval | Hmmm.... Kasablanca supports ftps, apparently. Is that the KDE FTP client you would recommend? |
| 14:51.32 | Skrot- | As far as I understand, fish wraps a normal ssh session |
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| 14:52.28 | Skrot- | nceterval: Try it out. I've never used it :) |
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| 14:53.10 | tsdh | Hi. How can I add a new session to kdm? I installed a start script in /etc/X11/Sessions/ and a desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/, but it still doesn't show up in the Sessions menu. |
| 14:54.52 | sredna | tsdh: Kdm stores sessions in KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/sessions in the form of .desktop files |
| 14:55.16 | sredna | (at least that is the default) |
| 14:57.04 | tsdh | sredna: Well, that's weird. KDM displays dwm in it's menu, but dwm has its desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/ and in KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/sessions there's none. |
| 14:57.19 | nceterval | Skrot-, Kasablanca seems to work, thanks |
| 14:57.24 | sredna | tsdh: You system maybe differently configured |
| 14:57.40 | sredna | tsdh: Did you restart kdm? |
| 14:58.14 | tsdh | sredna: Sure, but if I add a StumpWM.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/, it won't show up... |
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| 14:59.29 | archangelpetro | morning all |
| 15:00.52 | sredna | tsdh: Kdm checks if the file defined by TryExec or Exec in the .desktop file is actually an existing, executable file beofre showing it. Is it? |
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| 15:16.34 | tsdh | sredna: The Exec-Entry exists, the TryExec is empty. |
| 15:16.45 | devilsadvocate | is there any way to get kopete to work behind a proxy |
| 15:17.35 | sredna | tsdh: Exec is used for the test if TryExec is empty. Does it point to an executable file (executable for the user that wants to start the session)? |
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| 15:18.47 | tsdh | sredna: Ah, that's it. It's only executable for root! Thanks a lot |
| 15:18.56 | sredna | Np :) |
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| 15:52.39 | alkhimey | ? |
| 15:53.39 | _alkhimey | what is this place? |
| 15:53.58 | logixoul | a support channel for the K Desktop Environment |
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| 15:54.24 | LiquidNerd | this is all a dream! |
| 15:56.45 | alkhimey | so can you help me with a thing. I am really confused with all the "packeges" stuff. Is this the right place to ask questions about it? |
| 15:57.01 | mariux | #the_name_of_your_distrobution |
| 15:57.12 | mariux | s/o/i |
| 15:57.28 | alkhimey | sorry? |
| 15:57.35 | mariux | what type of linux are you running? |
| 15:57.58 | alkhimey | mandrieva or something like this |
| 15:58.16 | mariux | #mandriva would be a good place to ask about the packages |
| 15:58.30 | mariux | type "/join #mandriva" |
| 15:59.00 | alkhimey | ok, thank you |
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| 16:05.48 | mariux | is there a id3tag editor for kde? |
| 16:05.57 | Anarky | kid3 |
| 16:06.05 | mariux | not including amarok because it seems to only write id3v2 |
| 16:06.06 | mariux | thanks |
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| 16:12.56 | gabrieldain | Hey, how can I change the KMenu beyond the application it lists? The default menu is divided into Most Used Apps, Apps, and Actions; is there a way to remove them, or mix them up, etc? |
| 16:13.38 | mariux | you can move and add apps yes |
| 16:13.47 | Jucato | you can only modify the ones in the Applications area |
| 16:13.51 | mariux | right click on the K thing and choose menu editor |
| 16:13.53 | Sho_ | gabrieldain: KControl -> Desktop -> Panels -> Menus |
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| 16:14.30 | Sho_ | gabrieldain: There you will be able to modify all aspects of the menu beyond the application list |
| 16:14.36 | Jucato | Sho_: seems like I hit another bump in the road... |
| 16:14.48 | gabrieldain | Thats only for the "Other Applications" sections. How can I remove the entire "Most Used Application" sections? |
| 16:15.04 | gabrieldain | Sho_, is that as root? |
| 16:15.05 | Sho_ | gabrieldain: Set the number of entries to "0" on the page I just told you |
| 16:15.06 | Jucato | gabrieldain: set the Most Used Applications number to 0 |
| 16:15.09 | Sho_ | gabrieldain: No, as user |
| 16:15.29 | Jucato | Sho_: compiled basket and successfully running... but kontact can't seem to see it... :( |
| 16:15.39 | gabrieldain | Sho_, thanks, got it |
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| 16:15.54 | Jucato | oh there's the person I was just looking for :) |
| 16:16.29 | Jucato | hi annma!! |
| 16:16.29 | Sho_ | Jucato: Have you activated it in "Select Components"? |
| 16:16.41 | Jucato | Sho_: Kontact can't even see it in there... |
| 16:17.39 | annma | hi! |
| 16:17.53 | annma | can you believe that I had no electricity since 9am? |
| 16:18.00 | Jucato | wha?!? why? |
| 16:18.07 | annma | lol |
| 16:18.09 | annma | I don't know why |
| 16:18.30 | annma | and the phone doe snot work without electricity |
| 16:18.37 | Jucato | oh that sucks... |
| 16:18.51 | Sho_ | Jucato: Look where you have libkontact_basket.la/libkontact_basket.so and check that your environment is set up to consider that path |
| 16:18.52 | Jucato | that's one reason we switched telephone companies |
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| 16:19.18 | Sho_ | Jucato: Basket appears to be hard-wired to install these to /usr/lib/kde3, which e.g. on Gentoo is the wrong prefix, and presumably on Kubuntu as well |
| 16:19.50 | Jucato | Sho_: of course, I installed on the custom $KDEDIRS on my home... but I'll check |
| 16:20.37 | Jucato | annma: over here, when an unscheduled power interruption lasts more than an hour, we start pestering the power company for explanations :) |
| 16:21.06 | annma | Jucato: ;) yes but they are difficult to reach |
| 16:21.17 | Jucato | heh they always are |
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| 16:21.38 | Sho_ | Jucato: Presumably their build system just sucks, with hard-wired paths, and the builddir!=srcdir breakage you ran into earlier |
| 16:21.55 | alkhimey | what commant allows me to see how much memory and cpu is used? what is the difference between different shells? |
| 16:22.06 | Sho_ | Jucato: The Kontact integration doesn't work on Gentoo either due to the wrong install path for the plugin |
| 16:22.07 | Jucato | Sho_: I'm beginning to think so... so I wonder how they make .deb packages that work... :( |
| 16:22.23 | Sho_ | Jucato: Probably fixed up by hand |
| 16:22.23 | Jucato | Sho_: oh somehow that makes me feel a bit relieved |
| 16:22.38 | Jucato | by hand? and they don't update the source code? great app, terrible build... |
| 16:22.39 | Sho_ | Jucato: You should report the issues upstream to the Basket guys |
| 16:22.47 | Jucato | oh I definitely will... |
| 16:22.58 | Sho_ | :) |
| 16:23.30 | Jucato | but I have to do that on monday... right now I'm having another one of those mild asthma attacks... |
| 16:23.35 | Jucato | and I have to get up in 4.5 hours from now |
| 16:24.12 | Sho_ | Another man robbed of his sleep by autotools and developers inept at using them |
| 16:24.14 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 16:24.23 | Jucato | lol yeah :) |
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| 16:25.02 | Jucato | Sho_: btw, if you're using KOffice 1.6.x from Kubuntu, just like to inform you that there seems to be a bug... there's no GIF support |
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| 16:25.45 | Sho_ | Jucato: ah ... yes, I was surprised a few days ago when I couldn't open a GIF |
| 16:26.13 | Jucato | poked Riddell about it... still haven't received a response |
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| 16:27.42 | Jucato | btw, is KDevelop 3.4 released separately from KDE 3.5.6? |
| 16:27.57 | Sho_ | yes |
| 16:28.08 | Sho_ | It was released yesterday |
| 16:28.13 | Jucato | ah... no announcement from kde.org yet |
| 16:28.28 | annma | yes tehre is one |
| 16:28.35 | Sho_ | Unfortunately without translations as I understand it, due to the lack of scripty coverage for that branch |
| 16:28.43 | Jucato | dot.kde.org yes, but not www.kde.org |
| 16:28.55 | garrettkajmowicz | Anybody here have any experience with the KDM codebase? |
| 16:29.01 | Sho_ | garrettkajmowicz: -> #kde-devel |
| 16:29.17 | garrettkajmowicz | Sho_: Thanks! |
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| 16:31.11 | Jucato | Sho_: libkontact_basket.* seems to be in $KDEDIRS/lib/kde3. but I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include $KDEDIRS/lib |
| 16:31.25 | Jucato | do I have to explicitly add $KDEDIRS/lib/kde3? |
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| 16:33.50 | Jucato | Sho_: this was why I asked you earlier if, on Gentoo, you needed to re-emerge kdepim... I thought I needed to recompile kdepim after I installed basket |
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| 16:40.27 | Jucato | Sho_: do you have access to another machine that's running KDE 3.5.6, which you can restart if needed? |
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| 16:41.04 | Jucato | or annma ^^^ |
| 16:41.21 | annma | not me |
| 16:41.29 | annma | I just have my laptop |
| 16:41.44 | Jucato | ok... we're both handicapped in that sense :( |
| 16:41.56 | Jucato | anyway, I was just wondering about lock session |
| 16:42.11 | Jucato | I lock the session (from the K Menu), and it won't accept my password... |
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| 16:42.15 | annma | I hate lock session, I disabled ctrl alt L |
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| 16:42.19 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 16:42.26 | Jucato | I clicked on it by mistake... |
| 16:42.34 | Sho_ | Jucato: Yes |
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| 16:43.17 | Jucato | Sho_: hehe :) |
| 16:43.20 | Sho_ | When I get up from the chair, I lock my session ;) |
| 16:43.28 | Jucato | can you reproduce this behavior? |
| 16:43.35 | annma | Sho_: in a working environment? |
| 16:43.49 | Jucato | Sho_ has work? :O |
| 16:44.58 | Sho_ | Jucato: How else would I afford my shiny kdelibs-in-14-minutes CPU? ;) |
| 16:45.05 | Sho_ | annma: On every system I use, pretty much |
| 16:45.07 | Jucato | hah! :) |
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| 16:45.30 | annma | Sho_: even at home? |
| 16:45.51 | Jucato | I guess when it becomes reflex action... it really becomes reflex action :) |
| 16:46.03 | Sho_ | annma: Even at home when I'm alone ;) |
| 16:46.07 | Sho_ | annma: It's a reflex |
| 16:46.10 | Jucato | home alone lol |
| 16:46.20 | Sho_ | When I get up, I hit the key combo |
| 16:46.30 | Jucato | I guess my lock session problem is an isolated case then? |
| 16:46.40 | Sho_ | It's like closing the fridge door |
| 16:46.41 | annma | Sho_ <- a machine! |
| 16:46.45 | Jucato | lol |
| 16:47.44 | annma | ;) |
| 16:47.54 | annma | sneaky sister |
| 16:48.11 | TeePOG | annma: hopefully not closing it after them, while they're inside ;-] |
| 16:48.24 | Jucato | worse... a bit.. um... well let's just say that she can manage to ruin any system I setup :) |
| 16:48.28 | annma | TeePOG: lol, no |
| 16:49.07 | Jucato | "honey, what's for dinner?" "there are some frozen kids in the fridge." |
| 16:49.14 | Jucato | ew... |
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| 16:49.29 | TeePOG | well, kids _do_ want to be cool and everything |
| 16:49.35 | logixoul | lol |
| 16:50.42 | Jucato | ok, I think I seriously need to sleep before I go bananas |
| 16:50.56 | annma | lol |
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| 16:52.49 | Jucato | Sho_: just so that I have it straight, before I go to bed: Lock Session working perfectly fine on your 3.5.6? |
| 16:52.55 | Kyral | Viva La KDE :D |
| 16:53.13 | Sho_ | Jucato: yup |
| 16:53.23 | Jucato | oh krap... |
| 16:53.29 | Jucato | thanks |
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| 16:54.12 | Kyral | ..anyone know the specifics of the 3rd and 4th form of ln? |
| 16:54.14 | annma | Jucato: put it under your bed |
| 16:54.22 | Jucato | annma: lol |
| 16:54.31 | Kyral | (ln [OPTION] TARGET DIRECTORY) |
| 16:54.36 | Jucato | anyway, good night! :) |
| 16:55.07 | annma | good night Jucato |
| 16:55.08 | devilsadvocate | :) |
| 16:55.27 | Jucato | good night! |
| 16:55.33 | Jucato | see you in 4.5 hours :P |
| 16:56.15 | annma | what? |
| 16:56.22 | annma | tsss, you need more sleep |
| 16:56.54 | Jucato | heh I have no choice |
| 16:57.02 | Jucato | I have to pick someone up |
| 16:57.12 | Jucato | believe me, I'd sleep all day if it were up to me :P |
| 16:57.18 | annma | lol |
| 16:57.23 | annma | :) rest well |
| 16:57.32 | Kyral | Yea for Symlinks :D |
| 16:57.33 | Jucato | I hope so... :) |
| 16:57.54 | Jucato | Kyral: Konqi has a decent symlinking |
| 16:58.06 | Jucato | er.. "has pretty decent symlinking" |
| 16:58.12 | Jucato | anyway... over and out |
| 16:58.17 | Kyral | Jucato: Yah but tab-completion and history list pwn Konq in this case |
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| 16:58.42 | Jucato__ | split views pawn :P |
| 16:58.50 | Jucato__ | bye!! |
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| 17:06.19 | aemsic | i want to change the kicker default theme, how would i go about this |
| 17:06.32 | logixoul | you mean kicker's background? |
| 17:07.17 | annma | aemsic: just right click on kicker and choose configure |
| 17:07.25 | aemsic | well, yes, if thats all i can change |
| 17:07.57 | x_link | Where can I find small games for my Debian Etch KDE 3.5 ? |
| 17:07.57 | annma | have a look in config dialog |
| 17:08.07 | x_link | I tried but didn't find any fun ones with apt-cache search games |
| 17:08.09 | annma | x_link: install kdegames |
| 17:08.20 | x_link | annma: What type of games is that? |
| 17:08.22 | annma | what sort of fun games? |
| 17:08.29 | x_link | annma: Like shooting games etc. |
| 17:08.37 | x_link | Not advanced, big games. |
| 17:08.38 | annma | small games? |
| 17:08.46 | annma | shooting games are small games? |
| 17:08.51 | x_link | hehe |
| 17:08.56 | x_link | This nexuiz wasn't that big. |
| 17:08.57 | annma | Nexuiz |
| 17:09.08 | x_link | I already have it. |
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| 17:09.19 | x_link | I have never played before, it's a bit to fast/hard for me. |
| 17:09.19 | annma | well KDE does not have such games anyway |
| 17:09.32 | x_link | annma: OKey |
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| 17:09.32 | x_link | But I will do apt-get install kdegames then |
| 17:09.35 | annma | have a look with Google |
| 17:09.42 | sredna | x_link: Type 'apps: Games' in the kde prompt or konqueror addressbar ;) |
| 17:09.43 | annma | kdegames are not shooters |
| 17:09.57 | logixoul | x_link: there do exist 1 or 2 applet games, they aren't in kdegames tho |
| 17:10.03 | x_link | sredna: KDE prompt? |
| 17:10.03 | logixoul | annma: what about kspaceduel :) |
| 17:10.12 | annma | logixoul: lol, well yes |
| 17:10.20 | annma | but nor Quake-like |
| 17:10.25 | logixoul | well, yes |
| 17:10.25 | annma | nor/not |
| 17:10.28 | sredna | annma: Like kspaceduel etc... ;) |
| 17:10.38 | sredna | x_link: Type ALT + F2 to see the prompt |
| 17:10.49 | logixoul | haha, "kde prompt". i like that. |
| 17:10.49 | x_link | ok |
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| 17:11.02 | x_link | sredna: Ahh Run Command |
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| 17:12.08 | atomik | hi all |
| 17:12.22 | atomik | do you know a kde apps that's like this: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9961 (kshowmail) |
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| 17:13.26 | sredna | atomik: Kbiff, korn to mention a couple |
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| 17:17.50 | ramz | alo all... |
| 17:17.50 | atomik | sredna: thanks a lot ! |
| 17:17.59 | sredna | :) |
| 17:18.07 | ramz | so, I'm browsing thru the kde bug database |
| 17:18.22 | ramz | trying to see if there are reported bugs resolution to the problem I'm having with amarok |
| 17:18.25 | annma | triaging? |
| 17:19.08 | ramz | and while there are dozens of reports of exactly the issue I'm having, they seem to have all been resolved long, long ago... |
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| 17:20.02 | ramz | why, oh why, when amarok hits certain song files does it completely lock up "Populating Playlist" and drive the CPU utilization (on one processor) to 1005? |
| 17:20.21 | ramz | I've had this issue on two different systems so far, and it's rather annoying... |
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| 17:21.20 | annma | hits certain songs: which ones? |
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| 17:22.04 | ramz | annma: it can very... mp3's or wavs... doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason, but it certainly seems to hate some tracks consistently... |
| 17:22.09 | ramz | in this case, it's a wav file |
| 17:22.11 | transgress | now i recall there being a way to make a middle click bring up that scroll thingy that follows your mouse but i can't find the setting anywhere |
| 17:22.14 | transgress | any help? |
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| 17:22.33 | ramz | I'm just about to check the file in question with mplayer and see what happens... |
| 17:22.51 | richard | greetings all. Anyone know how to supress messages from kget? or a good resource for kgetrc? |
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| 17:29.26 | ramz | okay, mplayer plays the wav file that has been breaking amarok just fine... |
| 17:31.12 | Tomasu | is it just me or is Aaron Seigo lax in his blog duties? I miss the almost daily /torrent/ of entries. :( |
| 17:31.16 | Tomasu | ;) |
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| 17:34.50 | illogic-al | hagah |
| 17:35.00 | illogic-al | *hahah |
| 17:35.22 | devilsadvocate | at what stage is kde4 development? |
| 17:36.00 | devilsadvocate | dont bother to answer my last question |
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| 17:43.46 | mphill | its seems like if my cpu goes high enough KDE starts to beep at me, is this KDE or something else? |
| 17:47.58 | MrGrim | define high enough |
| 17:48.10 | mphill | 80% |
| 17:48.14 | mphill | load at like 3.0 |
| 17:48.26 | mphill | i am using Dvd:rip, when i pause it it stops beeping |
| 17:48.39 | mphill | its very strange |
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| 17:48.45 | MrGrim | then I'd say it is dvd:rip :P |
| 17:48.50 | mphill | i thought it was a bios thing, but its coming from alsa |
| 17:48.51 | sredna | Wild guess: Dvd:rip is beebping at you |
| 17:50.43 | ramz | where do you turn off the shadow specifically for the kmenu? |
| 17:51.00 | lmm | hi, I just upgraded to 3.5.6 on gentoo and my password entry boxes are all showing dots instead of stars, how do I change this back? |
| 17:51.06 | ramz | the option under Effects --> Menu Shadow (or whatever) doesn't seem to have any effect |
| 17:51.19 | MrGrim | the kmenu shadow is not separate, it's controlled in the same way all menu shadows are |
| 17:51.40 | MrGrim | I could be wrong... |
| 17:51.43 | illogic-al | lmm: you don't |
| 17:51.55 | lmm | wtf? |
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| 17:52.44 | gemidjy | why in KWord it is precised that odt is OASIS standard format? It is also an ISO standard, couldn't it be just "OpenDocument" ? |
| 17:53.09 | ramz | MrGrim: well, it would seem that it's not working for me...if I toggle the menu shadowing thing it changes the menu shadows in the toolbar, but has no effect on the kmenu |
| 17:53.54 | illogic-al | lmm: http://daniel.molkentin.de/blog/index.php?/archives/59-Password-shadowing-Pimp-My-Plastique.html |
| 17:55.30 | lmm | bah |
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| 17:55.46 | Sho_ | lmm: You can't without code modification |
| 17:56.12 | Sho_ | (or without using a style that overrides the default version) |
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| 18:00.39 | humphrey | hi i have made kde 3.5.6 packages slackware, the maintainer is busy. Can someone help?(i am uplaoding to my webspace, should take a while) thanx |
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| 18:02.17 | lmm | well, thanks for the answers |
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| 18:06.03 | texnofobix | x_link: hi |
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| 18:13.33 | hydrogen | whats the kde calandar called? |
| 18:14.27 | logixoul | you mean korganizer or the kicker clock one? |
| 18:15.17 | sredna | hydrogen: Korganizer |
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| 18:15.40 | hydrogen | bah |
| 18:15.45 | hydrogen | here i was thinking kalandar |
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| 18:16.21 | logixoul | actually the spelling is calEndar, so you wouldn't've found it anyway |
| 18:16.24 | logixoul | ;) |
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| 18:24.25 | x_link | texnofobix: =) |
| 18:24.53 | texnofobix | i'll be back ... lunch |
| 18:26.38 | x_link | Sure |
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| 18:28.48 | Bxnp | guys i am looking for a backup program for kde, which enables me to backup my local documents to my remote ftp server |
| 18:28.53 | Bxnp | any idea's |
| 18:28.58 | logixoul | try Keep |
| 18:29.47 | Q-collective | hey, how do I get the bookmarks "bar" back in the konq UI in 3.5.6? |
| 18:30.09 | logixoul | view->toolbars->bookmarks toolbar |
| 18:30.22 | logixoul | s/view/settings/ |
| 18:30.48 | Q-collective | ah |
| 18:30.49 | Q-collective | ty |
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| 18:32.02 | logixoul | np |
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| 18:44.34 | Bxnp | logixoul: i tried keep, but its saying that it cant create directory |
| 18:44.42 | Bxnp | however the directory already exists |
| 18:44.52 | logixoul | i've never used it, sorry |
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| 18:46.46 | sredna | Bxnp: If the parent directory doesn't exist, create it |
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| 18:48.20 | Bxnp | sredna: its on an remote ftp |
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| 18:49.51 | sredna | Bxnp: I haven't tried using keep with ftp, but I can't see why it wouldn't work. Maybe try creating the (parent) directory using konqueror |
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| 18:51.49 | Psychonaut[away] | I'd like to make a video recording of a lecture. Can someone recommend a simple program (preferably GUI) to record video and audio from a webcam? (According to dmesg, my webcam appears to be supported by the kernel.) |
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| 18:55.34 | Bxnp | Fatal Error: Unable to create directory ftp:/ftp.postproductie.nl/private/backup |
| 18:55.40 | Bxnp | look sredna |
| 18:55.46 | Bxnp | that directory already exists |
| 18:56.09 | sredna | Bxnp: Maybe that is why keep can't create it then |
| 18:56.44 | Bxnp | its the location where keep should put the backup |
| 18:56.53 | Bxnp | keep should not create that directory |
| 18:57.00 | Bxnp | it should the source directory in that directory |
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| 18:58.38 | anisfarhana | greetings all |
| 18:58.39 | anisfarhana | morning :) |
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| 18:59.49 | sredna | Bxnp: Its been a while since I tried keep, and I remember having to give it a name of a non-existing directory |
| 18:59.55 | sredna | I think |
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| 19:02.34 | anisfarhana | is there any Management System ( standalone software / web-based software ) for computer ? such as preventive maintenance etc etc ? *i know this is nothing to do with kde , but i will glad if someone can propose me something good regarding this |
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| 19:03.15 | texnofobix | anisfarhana: i'm confused with what you are asking |
| 19:03.49 | anisfarhana | yes i am confused too |
| 19:04.09 | texnofobix | glad we got that cleared up |
| 19:04.10 | Bxnp | no that does not work, sredna, you cant fill cant go further if you choose a name wich does no exist |
| 19:04.52 | Bxnp | i think i will use another program, a program wich such a simple interface and not able to let me do what i want, is strange, its simple not yet ready for a stupid like me |
| 19:05.12 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: it is something like Computer Management System |
| 19:05.30 | texnofobix | i use webmin |
| 19:05.37 | texnofobix | but its just web adminstration |
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| 19:06.15 | anisfarhana | yes you're right |
| 19:06.50 | anisfarhana | it is likc web administration such as plesk or cpanel , but this is for preventive maintenance for IT Infrastructure |
| 19:06.54 | anisfarhana | *like |
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| 19:07.36 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: for example , i can assign Technian A or Technician B to do the jobs via webmin |
| 19:08.01 | texnofobix | anisfarhana: you are looking for a ticket tracking system |
| 19:08.10 | texnofobix | ? |
| 19:08.27 | anisfarhana | no no |
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| 19:09.54 | texnofobix | you can set prilivedges to certain individuals in webmin |
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| 19:13.40 | anisfarhana | i still don't have idea how to say it |
| 19:14.35 | texnofobix | you want to have a system contact technications ahead of time to perform maintanence? |
| 19:14.47 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: yess! |
| 19:14.58 | texnofobix | why not use cron? |
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| 19:15.25 | texnofobix | i've never seen one yet |
| 19:15.34 | anisfarhana | i would prefer webmin for it , so they can open using login id and passwd or whatever what they are going to do for today,next week or next month |
| 19:15.50 | texnofobix | to schedule the future updates? |
| 19:16.39 | x_link | When I drag my mouse cursor over my taskbar icons this small window comes up. |
| 19:17.10 | x_link | For example if I drag it over the konsole icon on my taskbar it will come up a window with the konsole picture. |
| 19:17.19 | x_link | Can I disable that function? |
| 19:17.40 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: yes , and it would be more to preventive maintenance for the clients |
| 19:17.57 | texnofobix | sf might have something |
| 19:18.00 | texnofobix | or freshmeat |
| 19:18.09 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: updating software and core components, removing duplicate files, cleaning out people's home dirs |
| 19:18.28 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: tell me the name of the software , so i can google em |
| 19:18.54 | texnofobix | linux maintance software? |
| 19:18.54 | sredna | x_link: In the panel config, go to the appearance page and disable 'enable icon mouse over effects' I think |
| 19:19.47 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: http://www.millennium-solutions.co.uk/network-management-tool/ , it is something like this |
| 19:21.40 | x_link | sredna: Thanks! |
| 19:22.29 | x_link | I have been looking for icons for my KDE, I have downloaded some from kde-look.org. |
| 19:22.45 | x_link | But do you guys know any other site? I have been googling but without any results. |
| 19:22.56 | texnofobix | anisfarhana: i'm looking |
| 19:23.09 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: thanks in advance |
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| 19:24.05 | markit | would like to talk with the responsable of "knights" chess game, for some minor issues... by chance, is he online? (and who is he? ;)) |
| 19:24.55 | transgress | heh that guy lives near me |
| 19:25.03 | texnofobix | anisfarhana: look into http://sourceforge.net/projects/maint-scheduler/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/m-suite/ |
| 19:25.08 | transgress | but if you are wanting to contact him, do it through the system on the knights webpage |
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| 19:26.19 | markit | transgress: mm I will look for that page the, dinner time, thanks |
| 19:27.10 | markit | transgress: http://knights-chess.com/ you mean? seems that there are troubles |
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| 19:27.35 | markit | "This domain name expired on 01/17/07 and is pending renewal or deletion" tell him to do it soooooonnn |
| 19:27.36 | transgress | http://knights.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 19:27.57 | transgress | http://knights.sourceforge.net/contact.php |
| 19:28.04 | markit | transgress: ah, I took from the "about box" of hte game, another bug to report ;) but maybe debian sid has an old version |
| 19:28.25 | outime | Hi guys, I'm wanting another dock bar like Kiba-Dock or gDesklets... Kiba-Dock has some troubles, I don't know why, and gDesklets is for GNOME |
| 19:28.36 | markit | transgress: thanks a lot, bye |
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| 19:29.14 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: why chess ? |
| 19:29.30 | anisfarhana | oh my god , transgress and texnofobix , my bad |
| 19:29.36 | anisfarhana | they are similar |
| 19:29.49 | transgress | what do you mean why chess?? |
| 19:30.33 | outime | Well... I change my question: Anyone uses Kiba-Dock? I need to fix some troubles |
| 19:32.20 | anisfarhana | transgress: oh sorry , just ignore it |
| 19:32.22 | x_link | Does anybody know where I can download icons for my KDE, except for www.KDE-Look.org? |
| 19:32.35 | Ardonik | That's the first stop, definitely. |
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| 19:33.23 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: what we call it again ? scheduler for preventive maintenance ? |
| 19:33.38 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 19:33.56 | texnofobix | i looked up scheduling maintenance |
| 19:35.42 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: it will be nice if they are included PC's specification for each department |
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| 19:51.17 | warriorness | Hey all! I read on KDE.org about kde 3.5.6 that Compiz support is added to the Kicker. Does this mean it has a Composite extension instead of pseudotransparency, or that the Pager works properly, or both? |
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| 20:09.32 | thiago | warriorness: Pager works |
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| 20:09.54 | warriorness | thiago: But not composite? |
| 20:10.36 | thiago | no |
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| 20:13.40 | texnofobix | anisfarhana: http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cmms/ |
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| 20:14.59 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: looking |
| 20:16.35 | Archeron | Anyone know of any links to info on printing to an XP shared printer from KDE? |
| 20:17.43 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: hmm..do u have any screenshot for that cmms ? |
| 20:17.49 | texnofobix | no .. :( |
| 20:17.53 | texnofobix | i just found it on line |
| 20:18.11 | texnofobix | Archeron: i dont know of any guides but you do need CUPS i think |
| 20:19.22 | asheron | #transcode |
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| 20:20.35 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: sorry but what is nightly snapshop available on that site ? |
| 20:20.50 | texnofobix | i dont know anything about it |
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| 20:21.07 | texnofobix | i just searchign in sourceforge |
| 20:21.10 | texnofobix | :| |
| 20:21.44 | ramz | alrighty... so apparently kde for my distribution ships with a kmenu that has its own built-in shadow... I dunno if that's the default for kde these days, but it sure does look ugly when you have beryl installed... |
| 20:22.08 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: ah ok ok , thanks |
| 20:22.20 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: if u have more , please tell about it to me |
| 20:22.33 | texnofobix | kk |
| 20:23.59 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: http://www.cworks.com.my/index.html |
| 20:24.03 | ramz | is there any way to replace the graphic that makes up the background of the kmenu with something that doesn't have an integrated shadow? |
| 20:24.05 | anisfarhana | how about that ? do u think it is good ? |
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| 20:25.24 | texnofobix | hmm looks professional |
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| 20:29.37 | solsTiCe | when i run reset in konsole, the windows grows about 2 lines . why ? reset should not change the window geometry |
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| 20:32.14 | Archeron | texnofobix: yeah... that's about all I have been able to ascertain... |
| 20:32.52 | Archeron | texnofobix: but most of the docs I have found involve using samba to share a printer to a windows box, not the other way around. |
| 20:33.43 | texnofobix | oh you are trying to print to a XP box with a printer from a linux box |
| 20:34.42 | texnofobix | the kde print stuff should work fine |
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| 20:35.04 | texnofobix | i've printed to from kde to a network HP printer |
| 20:37.52 | Archeron | texnofobix: I have never had trouble printing to network printer... |
| 20:38.17 | Archeron | texnofobix: and I can print to the XP shared printer from another XP box... |
| 20:38.19 | texnofobix | but you are printing to an XP machine that has a usb/parallel connected printer? |
| 20:38.29 | Archeron | yes... USB |
| 20:38.48 | texnofobix | it should have a smb shared name |
| 20:38.51 | milliams | solsTiCe: That sounds like a bug to me. Check bugs.kde.org |
| 20:38.52 | Archeron | I had a print server, but the bloody thing turns out to be tokenring :) |
| 20:39.10 | texnofobix | kde print setup with cups should work though |
| 20:39.23 | Archeron | texnofobix: it does... and the other XP box sees the share fine. |
| 20:39.49 | texnofobix | I must not understand your question recorrectly |
| 20:39.51 | texnofobix | sorry |
| 20:40.17 | texnofobix | you arent able to print via kde printer + cups to it? |
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| 20:40.49 | Archeron | but the KDE's printer manager sees the workgroup, but not the printer |
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| 20:41.02 | texnofobix | hmm ... can you explicitly tell it? |
| 20:41.54 | texnofobix | i dont have cups installed yet ... :( |
| 20:42.26 | Archeron | ok... |
| 20:42.59 | Archeron | KDE's add printer wizard allows you to choose SMB shared printer. |
| 20:43.41 | Archeron | to specify the settings, you can enter workgroup, server and printer share. |
| 20:43.42 | anisfarhana | texnofobix always :( |
| 20:43.43 | anisfarhana | :D |
| 20:43.49 | anisfarhana | cheer up texnofobix |
| 20:43.51 | Archeron | there is also a scan function. |
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| 20:44.13 | texnofobix | i'm always ":("? |
| 20:44.24 | Archeron | scan sees the workgroup, but not the printer. |
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| 20:45.12 | Archeron | and if I specify all the info manually, the next screen contains no info as if the printer doesn't exist. |
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| 20:47.53 | texnofobix | hmm |
| 20:48.02 | texnofobix | the other XP sees it ok right? |
| 20:48.08 | Archeron | yep |
| 20:48.22 | Archeron | and I can mount FS shares via mount_smbfs |
| 20:48.43 | Archeron | so samba is seeing the XP box. |
| 20:48.59 | LiquidNerd | Archeron: using smbfs are you using a password and username? |
| 20:49.17 | Archeron | now... I have never set up a printer in this manner before, so I could well be missing something simple. |
| 20:49.24 | Archeron | LiquidNerd: yes. |
| 20:49.53 | LiquidNerd | Archeron: that's the problem.. as far as I know, you can't specify a user name and password when trying to connect to a samba printer |
| 20:50.05 | anisfarhana | texnofobix: i think free-cmms is good |
| 20:50.17 | texnofobix | awesome :) |
| 20:50.21 | LiquidNerd | what you need to do is either activate the guest account on the XP box, or create a user on the XP box wiht the same username and password as on the Linux box |
| 20:50.34 | LiquidNerd | and obviously make sure the printer is shared on the XP box |
| 20:51.30 | LiquidNerd | you're probably having a permissions problem with accessing the XP box from the Linux box.. that's my guess at least |
| 20:51.30 | Archeron | LiquidNerd: the printer is shared. |
| 20:51.48 | LiquidNerd | Archeron: XP Home or Pro? |
| 20:51.53 | Archeron | LiquidNerd: pro |
| 20:52.01 | LiquidNerd | yeah you need to create a user with the same name then |
| 20:52.10 | Archeron | ok... |
| 20:52.22 | Archeron | as the KDE user on the BSD box? |
| 20:52.34 | LiquidNerd | whatever user is trying to print |
| 20:52.43 | Archeron | there is such a user, though their passwords are different... |
| 20:52.53 | LiquidNerd | they need to have the same password |
| 20:53.00 | Archeron | but it should only be the smbpasswd that needs to match, no? |
| 20:53.20 | LiquidNerd | yeah but you can't specify just the smb password on windows |
| 20:53.26 | Archeron | There should be a way to specify the printer share as public and open to anyone. |
| 20:53.41 | LiquidNerd | using the guest account |
| 20:53.57 | Archeron | bah |
| 20:54.02 | Archeron | windows sucks |
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| 20:54.15 | LiquidNerd | go to Tools -> Folder Options -> Advanced -> uncheck "Use simple file sharing" |
| 20:54.31 | LiquidNerd | then go into the share of the printer an dmake sure the guest account has full control |
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| 20:56.01 | Archeron | ok... I will give this a shot... |
| 20:57.00 | Archeron | ahh |
| 20:57.30 | LiquidNerd | ahh? |
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| 20:57.45 | Archeron | I was looking for how to manage share perms yesterday. Couldn't find it. I guess maybe win2k didn't have this simple sharing crap. |
| 20:57.53 | Archeron | or it wasn't on by default |
| 20:58.04 | LiquidNerd | heh |
| 20:59.17 | Archeron | ok |
| 20:59.45 | Archeron | so it is set to "Allow Everyone Print" |
| 21:01.19 | Archeron | ok... meeting... but I will pound away at this later. Thanks for the help folks. |
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| 21:09.48 | logixoul | can i disable fingerprint checking in kmail altogether? |
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| 21:22.26 | vbgunz | ahh man, someone please help me out. I found a page once on a wiki that showed how to use middle-click on a tab to close it in Konqueror... Upon migrating over, I forgot all about it and now that I am looking for it I cannot find the page :( |
| 21:22.41 | vbgunz | I found the wiki (I think) but I cannot find the middle click tip :( |
| 21:23.04 | logixoul | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Middle_Click_on_Tab_to_Close_in_Konqueror_KDE_3_4_ |
| 21:23.57 | warriorness | damn you logixoul I was just about to say that |
| 21:23.57 | PhilRod | could be the secret config...oh never mind :-) |
| 21:23.57 | logixoul | lol |
| 21:25.03 | vbgunz | logixoul: ahh, wow, thats it! |
| 21:25.07 | vbgunz | thank you! |
| 21:25.29 | logixoul | np |
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| 21:50.03 | solsTiCe | when i set the menu entries in the l menu to be name and then description in ( ) there is no ( ) around the description |
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| 21:50.37 | logixoul | solsTiCe: your distro (kubuntu i guess) has patched kde |
| 21:50.50 | solsTiCe | i use archlinux |
| 21:51.03 | logixoul | hmmm |
| 21:51.12 | solsTiCe | when i use description (name) the other way i got ( ) |
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| 21:51.35 | logixoul | no idea then, but i've seen that in maybe half the screenshots on kde-look.org |
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| 21:51.46 | logixoul | i always thought it was distro specific patching. |
| 21:51.52 | solsTiCe | ah |
| 21:52.05 | solsTiCe | may be that's a patch |
| 21:52.17 | logixoul | anyway, doesn't it look more natural this way? |
| 21:52.20 | solsTiCe | i thought it was a bug |
| 21:52.50 | solsTiCe | no because in kcontrol it is said description (name) so i expected to be description (name) with the ( ) |
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| 21:53.12 | solsTiCe | it is less readable without the ( )) |
| 21:53.22 | logixoul | if you say so... |
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| 22:16.08 | HenryTheVIII | How do I move to a specific time in Kplayer? |
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| 22:19.12 | Ardonik | HenryTheVIII: well, in mplayer, you'd do mplayer -ss [time], or use its Edit Decision Lists. |
| 22:19.20 | Ardonik | I have no idea about kplayer, though. |
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| 22:21.56 | manuhack | hi all, I got a problem using kwlan, |
| 22:21.56 | masterjointsmith | hi |
| 22:22.18 | manuhack | it said unable to use iwconfig |
| 22:22.27 | manuhack | how could I fix it |
| 22:23.01 | manuhack | in fact the wireless card can scan the network, I can find my network, but just cannot get the IP address... |
| 22:23.07 | manuhack | any got experience? |
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| 22:24.00 | masterjointsmith | yo |
| 22:24.03 | masterjointsmith | manuhack |
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| 22:24.16 | masterjointsmith | have you tried manually configuring the ip address |
| 22:24.32 | masterjointsmith | i do that on one of my windows laptops that dont aquire |
| 22:24.38 | manuhack | no dont know how |
| 22:25.03 | manuhack | any useful website? |
| 22:25.09 | masterjointsmith | i just loaded slaxs today |
| 22:25.16 | masterjointsmith | i cant really do shit either |
| 22:25.23 | manuhack | I find there is something about iwconfig but I couldn't run it |
| 22:25.50 | masterjointsmith | by chance ya kno how to install programs |
| 22:26.14 | masterjointsmith | or how to make shit run after ya download it? |
| 22:26.15 | manuhack | i want to apt-get, but apt-cache search could not find iwconfig |
| 22:26.35 | manuhack | make install? I know that |
| 22:26.56 | manuhack | what kind of program was that? |
| 22:26.59 | masterjointsmith | i wanted to install firefox |
| 22:27.10 | masterjointsmith | so i downloaded the archive but i dont know what to do with it |
| 22:27.16 | manuhack | u're using Ubuntu? |
| 22:27.24 | masterjointsmith | i decompressed it to a directory |
| 22:27.33 | masterjointsmith | ubuntu? |
| 22:27.38 | manuhack | well, look at README of INSTALL |
| 22:27.44 | manuhack | or INSTALL |
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| 22:27.56 | manuhack | usually you run ./configure |
| 22:27.59 | manuhack | as root |
| 22:28.02 | manuhack | then make |
| 22:28.03 | masterjointsmith | so theres an install command i should use? |
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| 22:28.05 | manuhack | to compile |
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| 22:28.15 | masterjointsmith | alright so i have to compile it |
| 22:28.30 | manuhack | no, not INSTALL command, but a text file called INSTALL to let you know how to install |
| 22:28.35 | masterjointsmith | like the only command i know is ls and man |
| 22:28.43 | manuhack | is your package source or binary? |
| 22:28.55 | manuhack | then that was tough |
| 22:29.10 | manuhack | are you using debian? |
| 22:29.11 | masterjointsmith | umm im not sure |
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| 22:29.20 | masterjointsmith | im usin slax's |
| 22:29.33 | masterjointsmith | off a cd loaded to ram |
| 22:29.35 | manuhack | then I don't know, I'm using debian |
| 22:30.22 | manuhack | you may also try iceweasel, maybe in your distribution it's called iceweasel instead of firefox |
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| 22:30.46 | masterjointsmith | do ya use kde? |
| 22:30.52 | manuhack | yeah, I'm using |
| 22:31.09 | manuhack | just trying to figure out how to use my wireless card |
| 22:31.14 | masterjointsmith | hold on |
| 22:31.20 | masterjointsmith | let me check the other desktop |
| 22:31.29 | masterjointsmith | i was readin a work around for wireless cards |
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| 22:32.42 | aep | 'lo |
| 22:32.55 | aep | the mime type db seems to be corupted |
| 22:33.15 | aep | whatever i add via kcontroll it just deletes a random one |
| 22:33.24 | aep | what can i do? |
| 22:35.17 | sredna | aep: Run kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
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| 22:36.14 | aep | kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! |
| 22:36.19 | aep | followed by a lot of warnings |
| 22:36.37 | Renze | normal |
| 22:37.26 | aep | worked |
| 22:37.33 | aep | thanks a milion |
| 22:37.57 | Renze | builds the kde system configuration cache |
| 22:38.33 | aep | hm. ok i will note that down |
| 22:38.35 | aep | thnaks |
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| 22:39.46 | blanky | hey guys |
| 22:40.17 | blanky | my friend that I just installed linux for yesterday, is trying to burn some mp3s as an audio cd using k3b, I already installed lame and all the mp3 codecs and what not, is there something I need? |
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| 22:40.41 | Renze | blanky: ask in the distro channel |
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| 22:41.32 | blanky | oh so it's not specific to k3b? See, what I mean is, I have everything working, but when I want to burn mp3 files as an audio cd it says mp3 is not supported, I was wondering if I needed some type of plug-in or addon to k3b |
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| 22:42.47 | Renze | blanky: not being familiar with any changes said distro may have made, or how they packaged k3b, I cannot answer |
| 22:42.48 | nitro4ce | is firefox able to use the gtk-qt engine? because i have it installed, and some programs use the kde theme, like gimp, but not firefox.. i still get the boxy buttons in for example the search button of google. |
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| 22:43.03 | Bxnp | blanky: check if you have this installed , libk3b2-mp3 |
| 22:43.07 | blanky | Renze: Is a plugin typically required? |
| 22:43.14 | blanky | Bxnp: wow, thanks, I'll check |
| 22:43.18 | Renze | nitro4ce: firefox uses XUL... it's not truly a gtk app |
| 22:43.33 | Renze | blanky: not that I'm aware of... in my distro, I just install k3b, and everything works |
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| 22:43.53 | blanky | I thought XUL was simply a cross platform way to render windows in a target platform's (native) window toolkit |
| 22:44.03 | Renze | blanky: not quite |
| 22:44.14 | blanky | not that XUL is actually a window toolkit, or is it? |
| 22:44.23 | nitro4ce | Renze: do u know how to change the appearence of the buttons? not the browser ones, but the web page's buttons. |
| 22:44.29 | hydrogen | firefox-- |
| 22:44.29 | Renze | XUL uses gtk to render widgets, but in a backbuffer, not directly |
| 22:44.37 | Bxnp | blanky: what distro are you using |
| 22:44.37 | Renze | nitro4ce: nope, sorry |
| 22:44.48 | hydrogen | opera++ |
| 22:45.09 | Renze | nitro4ce: and since firefox is not a KDE app, I don't need to offer support for it here ;) |
| 22:45.22 | blanky | Bxnp: ubuntu 6.10 (kubuntu) |
| 22:45.36 | Renze | now there's a surprise |
| 22:45.46 | Bxnp | oke do apt-get install libk3b2-mp3 |
| 22:45.54 | blanky | Bxnp: sweet, thanks man |
| 22:45.57 | Renze | silly kubuntu |
| 22:46.34 | Bxnp | what are you running Renze |
| 22:46.40 | Renze | gentoo |
| 22:46.51 | blanky | my friend core develops for gentoo |
| 22:47.01 | blanky | I mean, is a gentoo core-developer |
| 22:47.15 | blanky | He likes ubuntu too though hehe, and arch |
| 22:48.04 | vbgunz | ernesto |
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| 22:49.16 | Bxnp | blanky is it working |
| 22:49.30 | blanky | Bxnp: yeah my friend said it works now, thanks man I appreciate it |
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| 22:53.26 | caust1c | hi! |
| 22:53.38 | caust1c | how can i set konqueror to use middleclick as close tab? |
| 22:54.06 | caust1c | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings#_Middle_Click_on_Tab_to_Close_in_Konqueror_KDE_3_4_ i found this, but i dont have this setting in my konquerorrc |
| 22:54.08 | manuhack | using kwlan, I'm so close to wireless, I can get ip address, just couldn't get online |
| 22:54.30 | manuhack | anyone likes to share successful experience? |
| 22:55.00 | shodan | caust1c, , maybe in -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> middle click opens URL in selection (uncheck this) ? |
| 22:55.15 | blanky | hey guys, k3b gives me a "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device |
| 22:55.15 | blanky | : you may use K3bsetup2 to solve this problem" error, what should I do? |
| 22:55.24 | caust1c | i already unchecked it |
| 22:55.46 | shodan | how can I disable the single-click filebrowsing ? (I prefer double to enter a folder/execute a file) |
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| 22:56.15 | shodan | caust1c, sorry I use firefox for webstuff actually , I dunno outside of that :\ |
| 22:56.54 | logixoul | caust1c: just add the setting |
| 22:56.59 | caust1c | ok |
| 22:57.14 | logixoul | shodan: kcontrol->peripherals->mouse->doubleclick |
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| 22:57.27 | shiznix | blanky: use k3bsetup |
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| 22:57.43 | blanky | shiznix: thanks, in terminal, 'k3bsetup' ? |
| 22:57.47 | caust1c | it works \o/ |
| 22:57.47 | blanky | or where do I get to it from |
| 22:57.52 | caust1c | thank you :) |
| 22:57.58 | logixoul | caust1c: np :) |
| 22:57.59 | caust1c | another problem: |
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| 22:58.12 | shodan | thanks logixoul , what worked :) |
| 22:58.15 | shodan | *that |
| 22:58.15 | caust1c | can i disable the picture that the adblocker will show instead of blocked images? |
| 22:58.24 | logixoul | shodan: you're welcome :) |
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| 22:59.20 | logixoul | caust1c: Settings->Configure Konqueror...->AdBlocK Filters->Hide filtered images |
| 22:59.56 | caust1c | ah, didnt see that option ;D |
| 23:00.01 | logixoul | ... |
| 23:00.08 | caust1c | thx :> |
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| 23:00.21 | logixoul | np |
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| 23:02.24 | transgress_ | okay Kpowersave keeps crashing when i start up kde. is there just a way to turn that program off from starting up? |
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| 23:03.59 | logixoul | transgress_: dir ~/.kde/share/config/session | grep powersave |
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| 23:04.08 | logixoul | transgress_: what's the output |
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| 23:04.36 | caust1c | how to get the back and forward button from the mouse working? :> |
| 23:04.46 | transgress_ | logixoul: nothing |
| 23:05.16 | logixoul | transgress_: dir ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 23:05.42 | transgress_ | beryl, beryl-manager, katapult |
| 23:06.27 | Renze | dir? how... dos |
| 23:06.38 | Renze | ls is where it's at |
| 23:06.39 | logixoul | makes more sense than ls |
| 23:06.56 | Renze | one extra character... inefficient |
| 23:07.01 | logixoul | yeah right |
| 23:07.11 | transgress_ | anyways |
| 23:07.13 | Renze | you fail the geek test :) |
| 23:07.13 | transgress_ | back to my problem |
| 23:07.14 | texnofobix | thats why i have a alias l = ls |
| 23:07.16 | texnofobix | :P |
| 23:07.27 | transgress_ | do you want to see the backtrace or anything? |
| 23:07.32 | logixoul | Renze: and proud of it! :P |
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| 23:08.20 | HenryTheVIII | Ardonik, thanks! |
| 23:08.24 | logixoul | transgress_: any mention of kpowersave under $KDEDIR/share/autostart/ ? |
| 23:09.28 | transgress_ | eh... |
| 23:09.38 | transgress_ | how can i get it to tell me where that is? |
| 23:09.49 | Renze | kde-config --prefix |
| 23:10.16 | transgress_ | yeah kpowersave-autostart.desktop is in tere |
| 23:10.17 | logixoul | transgress_: actually nevermind that |
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| 23:10.42 | logixoul | transgress_: just change Autostart to false in ~/.kde/share/config/kpowersaverc |
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| 23:10.46 | transgress | okay |
| 23:11.30 | transgress | what should i be focusing on then? |
| 23:11.40 | logixoul | [11:19] <logixoul> transgress_: just change Autostart to false in ~/.kde/share/config/kpowersaverc |
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| 23:12.00 | transgress_ | oh sorry i missed that |
| 23:12.11 | logixoul | transgress_: hi clone :) |
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| 23:12.28 | transgress_ | desktop + laptop |
| 23:12.31 | logixoul | kk |
| 23:12.48 | MetaBookfoziS | IS there who have laptop with kde-guidance-powermanager? I have a problem with it, after boot (and login) it says: laptop lid is closed, blanking screen (but i'M not closed the lid, but it always say that.) Why, and how can i fix? |
| 23:13.25 | transgress_ | herm |
| 23:13.32 | caust1c | is it possible to put the download dialog into a tab? because the extra window doenst work very well with my tiling WM |
| 23:13.45 | logixoul | caust1c: unfortunately no |
| 23:13.48 | transgress_ | i decided to just try moving the config file out of that dir to see if it was messed up and kpowersave starts now w/o a problem |
| 23:13.49 | caust1c | :/ |
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| 23:14.21 | transgress_ | granted it won't let me configure it now |
| 23:14.41 | logixoul | transgress: permissions problem? |
| 23:14.48 | logixoul | transgress_: ^ |
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| 23:15.25 | transgress_ | haha gt it fixed |
| 23:15.44 | logixoul | good |
| 23:15.47 | transgress_ | i removed it, started it up, closed it, moved the config back, started it up again and it seems to be working fine |
| 23:15.53 | transgress_ | thanks for the help. could've have done it without you. |
| 23:15.55 | caust1c | ok, and what about mouse4 and mouse5? |
| 23:16.05 | logixoul | then i'm off to bed :) |
| 23:16.07 | caust1c | i cant see a dialog, where i can bind it to next/prev |
| 23:16.15 | caust1c | good night |
| 23:16.47 | MetaBookfoziS | caust1c > I'm say (very quietly) firefox can do that, with an extension |
| 23:17.39 | caust1c | yes, but i dont want to use firefox anymore :) |
| 23:17.45 | MetaBookfoziS | okay |
| 23:17.47 | caust1c | im trying to replace it with konqueror |
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| 23:18.49 | MetaBookfoziS | my only problem with ff is the gtk, and gnome compatibilit (and the non-kde compatibility:/) |
| 23:19.12 | caust1c | its too slow |
| 23:19.24 | caust1c | and it isnt that secure |
| 23:19.32 | Bxnp | caust1c: why dont you use opera |
| 23:19.40 | Bxnp | the latest version is at 9.1 |
| 23:20.02 | Bxnp | its secure, and fast, and does not use that much ram as firefox does |
| 23:20.41 | MetaBookfoziS | i think konqu is slower than ff, if i see for example a javascript bench |
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| 23:20.41 | MetaBookfoziS | but opera kicks out all browsers in speed in the same bench^^ |
| 23:20.41 | caust1c | i want to use free software |
| 23:20.48 | MetaBookfoziS | both free |
| 23:21.05 | Pinaraf | free like in speech I suppose. |
| 23:21.19 | Bxnp | caust1c: btw can you play mp3 |
| 23:21.31 | MetaBookfoziS | but opera is not opensource (if i know well) |
| 23:21.31 | caust1c | yes |
| 23:21.37 | Bxnp | and do you pay for it |
| 23:22.09 | caust1c | i dont use free software all the way, but if its possible i try to use it |
| 23:22.13 | Bxnp | i mean do you have a license to use that codec |
| 23:22.16 | Pinaraf | Bxnp: there are countries where it's legal to play mp3 without paying a license, aren't there ? |
| 23:22.27 | MetaBookfoziS | caust1c > opera is free about 2-3 years |
| 23:22.30 | MetaBookfoziS | ago |
| 23:22.50 | Pinaraf | MetaBookfoziS: no, it's not "free", it's "free" |
| 23:22.51 | caust1c | its free in the sense of money, but its not free in the open source meaning |
| 23:23.28 | Bxnp | yes but the point is wich i want to make, opera is just a good browser, i dont uderstand i want to use freesoftware if there is no good alternatif in his mind, if he thinks firefox is too slow and konqueror is not up to the task i dont see a problem in using opera |
| 23:23.28 | caust1c | the other ting is, i dont like opera that much |
| 23:23.47 | caust1c | konqueror is a nice webbrowser |
| 23:23.55 | Pinaraf | Bxnp: from your point of view, konqueror is not up... |
| 23:23.57 | MetaBookfoziS | why that is problem for you , if opera is not opensource? |
| 23:24.00 | Pinaraf | here it works just perfectly |
| 23:24.07 | MetaBookfoziS | it's free, fast and "good", whats the problem? |
| 23:24.19 | MetaBookfoziS | are you a developer, who want to see all lines of that program that you use? |
| 23:24.22 | Bxnp | so why just use konqueror caust1c |
| 23:24.24 | MetaBookfoziS | or you just snobbish? |
| 23:24.25 | caust1c | free software != free software |
| 23:24.26 | Pinaraf | MetaBookfoziS: do you know what "principles" are ? (I hope it's the right translation) |
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| 23:24.47 | MetaBookfoziS | moment, i translate that |
| 23:25.12 | caust1c | i like it to have the ability to do everything with the software, that i want to do |
| 23:25.40 | MetaBookfoziS | Pinaraf > yes i know, but if that is an idiotism i can't understand. |
| 23:26.00 | Renze | MetaBookfoziS: and because you can't understand it, it is wrong? |
| 23:26.05 | caust1c | so you see no problem in using windows (vista) |
| 23:26.13 | Pinaraf | it's not an idiotism |
| 23:26.35 | MetaBookfoziS | caust1c > i think vista is a problem, that is not free, and it's mentality is not acceptable. |
| 23:26.41 | Pinaraf | for instance I can get better performances using proprietary ATI drivers, but I prefer not using them |
| 23:26.54 | Pinaraf | (ok, they're less stables too but that's out of topic) |
| 23:27.05 | caust1c | the ati drivers are a good example |
| 23:27.11 | MetaBookfoziS | Pinaraf > sorry, i'm wrong, so *i think* that is an idiotism. |
| 23:27.15 | caust1c | ati stopped the suport for older GFX cards |
| 23:27.22 | MetaBookfoziS | it's free, that is enough forme... |
| 23:27.25 | caust1c | but the opensource driver supports the older cards |
| 23:27.48 | caust1c | you arent bound to descisions the developer makes |
| 23:28.08 | caust1c | you can use free software in that way you want |
| 23:28.26 | Pinaraf | LiquidNerd: same here :/ |
| 23:28.26 | MetaBookfoziS | but i'm using firefox, that is extendable to the infinity, opensource and free (but under kde some cases it's not the best:/) |
| 23:28.37 | MetaBookfoziS | ^ detto |
| 23:28.39 | Pinaraf | I'm really looking after Nouveau... |
| 23:29.29 | caust1c | i use ati fglrx and nvidia binary driver, because there isnt any other support |
| 23:29.54 | caust1c | but if i have the choice, i use the free alternative |
| 23:30.38 | MetaBookfoziS | caust1c > you must use opera, because no other browser that good for you (i think this from your description) |
| 23:30.45 | MetaBookfoziS | it's only problem is that isn't opensource |
| 23:30.54 | caust1c | i like konqueror |
| 23:31.21 | LiquidNerd | I would prefer to use konqy as my web browser but it doesn't seperate itself from a file manager enough to run it as both |
| 23:31.30 | MetaBookfoziS | then, use that:) |
| 23:31.35 | caust1c | i do |
| 23:32.01 | caust1c | or i'll try atleast, maybe ill continue to use firefox |
| 23:32.30 | MetaBookfoziS | i don't like konqu, because it is in everywhere by default, and it isn'T good as said everywhere. But i respect it's engine, khtml. |
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| 23:32.57 | LiquidNerd | what do you mean it is in everywhere? |
| 23:33.02 | Renze | konqueror is great here |
| 23:33.18 | LiquidNerd | Renze: your opinion is /dev/null |
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| 23:33.33 | caust1c | konqueror is the best thing kde has to offer :P |
| 23:33.36 | Renze | LiquidNerd: so is yours |
| 23:33.43 | LiquidNerd | damn |
| 23:33.50 | Pinaraf | I also love the way konqueror works currently |
| 23:33.55 | MetaBookfoziS | caust1c > i don't think that. I think the best is the framework feel, and kio;) |
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| 23:34.40 | caust1c | i dont use kde at all, just konqueror :> |
| 23:34.48 | caust1c | because its nice for samba |
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| 23:36.43 | bsdfox | konq 3.5.5 crashes too much for me |
| 23:37.08 | Renze | it rarely, if ever, crashes here |
| 23:37.08 | LiquidNerd | I have never had konqy crash on me |
| 23:37.11 | MetaBookfoziS | i'm never had crashed kde |
| 23:37.30 | caust1c | ive got much more crashes with firefox :> |
| 23:37.31 | Renze | if it does, it's because of flash's lousy plugin |
| 23:37.34 | MetaBookfoziS | i'm only had crashed x because some app eats the whole memory, or caused other problems |
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| 23:37.43 | vbgunz | I get a couple sigsev11 here and there |
| 23:38.36 | Renze | saw a lot of them in deadrat |
| 23:38.43 | LiquidNerd | ...... |
| 23:39.04 | LiquidNerd | is that a codename or a hobby on the weekends? |
| 23:39.19 | vbgunz | I get them, not a lot, but thats the number one error I see usually when I see an error... the one with the bomb in the picture :( |
| 23:39.20 | Renze | LiquidNerd: segmentation fault... illegal memory access |
| 23:39.29 | vbgunz | heh, I just thought I get in on the combo :| |
| 23:40.26 | Renze | usually only happens with badly built binaries |
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| 23:42.20 | MetaBookfoziS | vbgunz > that window is kcrash, and yes, you have something wrong... |
| 23:42.31 | MetaBookfoziS | hw problem, or binary, or anything else;) |
| 23:43.16 | vbgunz | MetaBookfoziS: it doesn't happen all the time, just when I see it, it's usually sigsegv11... It doesn't bother as it rarely happens :) |
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| 23:44.17 | MetaBookfoziS | btw, at onetime, try a latest kubuntu livecd on your machine, and check the problem is still exists or not |
| 23:44.25 | bsdfox | how can I change the icon a certain device uses when I plug it into usb? |
| 23:45.02 | MetaBookfoziS | bsdfox > your icon's is in /usr/share/icons/<iconthemename/ |
| 23:45.02 | bsdfox | like I am plugging in an mp3 player and I want that to show up as an ipod icon instead of the usb stick icon.. cause I have a couple usb sticks and a hard drive that I use too |
| 23:45.06 | Renze | bsdfox: kcontrol -> kde components -> file associations, under media in the tree view |
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| 23:45.17 | MetaBookfoziS | so you can repalce that, but i think there is an other way, that i don'T knwo. |
| 23:45.26 | MetaBookfoziS | eh, that Renze said^;) |
| 23:45.31 | bsdfox | MetaBookfoziS: right now it detects it as mounted removable medium, and I don't want all of them to show up like that |
| 23:45.43 | bsdfox | ie I don't want my usb sticks showing up as ipods |
| 23:45.58 | Renze | bsdfox: if you want it to be specifically recognised, you need to set up some udev rules |
| 23:45.58 | MetaBookfoziS | :)) |
| 23:46.24 | bsdfox | it's being detected and auto mounted to the proper spot every time I plug it in now.. |
| 23:46.40 | bsdfox | I mean the system knows it in some unique way already |
| 23:47.02 | Renze | udev |
| 23:47.19 | bsdfox | ok and then I can set a new type of media? |
| 23:47.25 | bsdfox | like mounted/unmounted ipod? |
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| 23:47.38 | Renze | not sure... never had any inclination to do that |
| 23:48.27 | shodan | I'm trying to setup konqueror to display files just like in windows (in "List" mode), so far I found that multicolumn view with icon size set to tiny almost looks the same , except the columns width is far too short (about 8-9 characters) how can I set column width to be a wide as the widest file ? I have an example picture here (sorry for the low quality I didn't have a screenshot app) -> http://domn.net/img/IMG_5888.jpg |
| 23:49.23 | Renze | shodan: the column width is as wide as the widest filename here... no setting that I'm aware of |
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| 23:50.32 | shodan | Renze, take a look at the screenshot, the coiumn isn't as wide as the widest filename, in fact I think it's as wide as the shortest filename |
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| 23:50.48 | shodan | Renze, almost every item ends with "..." |
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| 23:51.29 | delusions | hi, i restarted my modem, kmail isn't getting mails now |
| 23:51.40 | delusions | even when i click the get mails button |
| 23:52.32 | bsdfox | Renze: how do I associate a udev entry I made with a media type? |
| 23:52.47 | Renze | bsdfox: don't ask me, I've never messed with that |
| 23:53.22 | Renze | shodan: that doesn't happen here, and I know of no setting for it |
| 23:54.15 | Renze | shodan: might be a distro change |
| 23:55.38 | shodan | maybe it's the version ? I'm using 3.5.5 ? |
| 23:56.01 | Renze | shodan: 3.5.6 here, but it was the same in 3.5.5 |
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| 23:57.01 | shodan | I'll ask the people in gentoo-kde maybe they know who did that |
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