| 00:00.11 | hagabaka | it's pretty nice...too bad i didn't know about it until using kubuntu |
| 00:00.24 | nikolavp | BASEman: what u mean by multi-pages tiffs? |
| 00:00.51 | hagabaka | a tiff image can have multiple pages i think |
| 00:01.06 | hagabaka | windows fax server generates those |
| 00:01.07 | BASEman | nikolavp, one document that has more than one image: think of a fax. |
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| 00:03.07 | hagabaka | what's this "Zarro Boogs found" thing? |
| 00:03.16 | hagabaka | i saw that on another bugzilla recently too |
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| 00:06.32 | nikolavp | good night everybody i will go to sleep lol :P |
| 00:08.19 | Jucato | hagabaka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarro_boogs |
| 00:09.31 | hagabaka | i see |
| 00:10.34 | Renze | Jucato has zarro boogs |
| 00:11.24 | Jucato | Renze: the author of gwenview is not going to leave gwenview anymore |
| 00:11.31 | Renze | Jucato: he isn't? |
| 00:11.44 | Jucato | he just needs someone to help him, like a co-maintainer |
| 00:11.47 | Renze | ah |
| 00:12.06 | Renze | good to hear |
| 00:12.17 | Renze | I use gwenview often |
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| 00:12.34 | Jucato | really? quite surprised.... :) |
| 00:12.41 | Renze | how so? |
| 00:13.05 | Jucato | I always thought you were the kview/kuickshow type of person... :) |
| 00:13.07 | Renze | Jucato: do you think me lacking in artistic appreciation? |
| 00:13.20 | hagabaka | i think it's much better than kview or kuickshow...i don't know exactly why |
| 00:13.35 | Renze | kuickshow is good for viewing images quickly, but for viewing galleries of images well, nothing beats gwenview, imo |
| 00:13.40 | Jucato | yep |
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| 00:13.54 | Jucato | kuickshow is lightweight and quick. but that's just it |
| 00:14.25 | Jucato | gwenview is a bit moderate, a bit fast, has a bit more features (specially with KIPI plugins) |
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| 00:15.27 | SPuTN1cK | hi there |
| 00:16.14 | SPuTN1cK | I've lost my icons from taskbar, kde3.5 kubuntu edgy |
| 00:16.26 | SPuTN1cK | 2.6.17-10-generic |
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| 00:17.04 | Jucato | SPuTN1cK: which icon? |
| 00:17.06 | SPuTN1cK | what's the good thing to recreate this icons ? |
| 00:17.22 | SPuTN1cK | all apps icons exclude applet |
| 00:17.56 | Jucato | but the buttons are still there? |
| 00:17.57 | SPuTN1cK | now xchat isn't there in taskbar, like konqueror or whatever |
| 00:18.02 | SPuTN1cK | no |
| 00:18.06 | SPuTN1cK | nothing! |
| 00:18.35 | Jucato | the K Menu? |
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| 00:18.41 | pinotree | right click -> add application to panel -> etc... |
| 00:18.53 | SPuTN1cK | I was trying "apt-get remove kicker && apt-get install kicker" but nothing good happen |
| 00:18.54 | pinotree | (unless i've mistaken your question) |
| 00:19.00 | Jucato | or, add applet to panel |
| 00:19.32 | SPuTN1cK | applets is working well |
| 00:19.43 | SPuTN1cK | not others apps |
| 00:19.57 | SPuTN1cK | my taskbar is BLANK :) |
| 00:20.06 | Jucato | so you don't have a taskbar.... |
| 00:20.08 | SPuTN1cK | on ly desktop applet inside |
| 00:20.13 | SPuTN1cK | yes I have |
| 00:20.17 | SPuTN1cK | kicker |
| 00:20.22 | Jucato | that's not the taskbar |
| 00:20.28 | Jucato | the taskbar is a kicker applet |
| 00:20.45 | Jucato | right-click panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> look for Taskbar and add it |
| 00:21.04 | SPuTN1cK | so, I'm french, & I'm not sure for the real word to say "barre de tache" |
| 00:21.29 | pinotree | probably that |
| 00:21.32 | SPuTN1cK | oO |
| 00:21.38 | SPuTN1cK | working well |
| 00:22.02 | SPuTN1cK | don't understand what's happen |
| 00:22.13 | SPuTN1cK | thx all |
| 00:22.29 | pinotree | you removed the applet called taskbar |
| 00:23.14 | SPuTN1cK | strange |
| 00:23.26 | archangelpetro | evening all |
| 00:23.38 | SPuTN1cK | but I don't care if it's working ;) |
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| 00:24.03 | wolsni | SPuTN1cK: you might want to add the system tray applet too if that's missing |
| 00:24.22 | Jucato | archangelpetro: evening |
| 00:24.55 | SPuTN1cK | sorry for my por English |
| 00:25.07 | SPuTN1cK | wolsni, yes I need this stuff too ;) |
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| 00:26.30 | archangelpetro | how are you Jucato |
| 00:26.39 | archangelpetro | been indulging in tentacle pr... nemore? |
| 00:26.41 | archangelpetro | anymore* |
| 00:26.47 | Jucato | archangelpetro: just woke up... |
| 00:27.37 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 00:27.37 | archangelpetro | i guess nmot then :D |
| 00:27.37 | SPuTN1cK | thx all, better like that... |
| 00:27.37 | Renze | archangelpetro: he's been dreaming about it instead ;) |
| 00:27.37 | archangelpetro | ffs |
| 00:27.38 | archangelpetro | 100% packet loss to www.google.com |
| 00:27.38 | archangelpetro | :/ |
| 00:27.38 | archangelpetro | this ISP is annoying me |
| 00:27.38 | Jucato | 100% pockets lost to www.google.com |
| 00:27.46 | archangelpetro | yes. |
| 00:27.48 | archangelpetro | odd. |
| 00:27.52 | Renze | is google hustling pool now? |
| 00:27.58 | archangelpetro | DNS problem i believe. |
| 00:28.26 | hagabaka | if I meant to report a wish but forgot to select it and made it a bug, could I change it? |
| 00:29.00 | hagabaka | well apparently i can't, so should I wait until someone else does, or say it's resolved and report a new one? |
| 00:32.04 | archangelpetro | wtf.. |
| 00:32.31 | archangelpetro | silly question.. |
| 00:32.35 | archangelpetro | but Google is up right? |
| 00:32.36 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 00:32.57 | teatime | hagabaka: what's the number? |
| 00:32.57 | Jucato | yes |
| 00:33.14 | hagabaka | 140468 |
| 00:33.15 | archangelpetro | :/ |
| 00:33.48 | archangelpetro | so, i'm on IRC and msn.. |
| 00:33.48 | Jucato | hagabaka: it's supposed to be a wishlist? |
| 00:33.54 | hagabaka | yes |
| 00:33.57 | archangelpetro | but am getting 100% packet loss to everywhere |
| 00:34.03 | Jucato | archangelpetro: must be a DNS problem really |
| 00:34.04 | teatime | hagabaka: now it is |
| 00:34.07 | hagabaka | thanks |
| 00:34.15 | archangelpetro | Jucato, yea.. it's frustrating |
| 00:34.16 | teatime | np |
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| 00:40.20 | funky | hi |
| 00:40.23 | funky | Adobe FlashPlayer: gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY); failed. Trying to call gtk_init(0,0); |
| 00:40.43 | funky | I got this message from konqueror when it tries to load the flash plugin |
| 00:40.58 | funky | the path is ok in the config, and the plugin works fine with firefox |
| 00:41.06 | funky | does anyone have any idea about what is wrong ? |
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| 01:09.45 | DMJC | ok what the hell |
| 01:09.56 | DMJC | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lkdnssd |
| 01:10.17 | Faust-C | DMJC: ok and that means ... |
| 01:10.23 | Faust-C | what distro are you on |
| 01:10.28 | DMJC | gentoo |
| 01:10.34 | Faust-C | well go to gentoo and ask |
| 01:10.42 | Faust-C | thats not a kde error |
| 01:10.43 | DMJC | when i try building kdnssd |
| 01:10.47 | Faust-C | well ask them |
| 01:10.50 | DMJC | it throws that error |
| 01:10.53 | Faust-C | gcc always has issues w/ gentoo |
| 01:11.03 | Faust-C | means you have compiling issues w/ thier pkgs |
| 01:11.03 | DMJC | isn't that like a self referencing loop |
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| 01:11.18 | DMJC | k |
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| 01:13.07 | canllaith | I'm so boooooooooooooooooooored |
| 01:13.12 | canllaith | Renze: come do my job? :D |
| 01:13.18 | Faust-C | lol |
| 01:13.23 | Faust-C | man my back hurts |
| 01:13.32 | Renze | canllaith: do I get paid for it too? |
| 01:13.46 | canllaith | Renze: sure. I'll pay you half what I get paid? :D |
| 01:13.56 | Renze | hmmmm... |
| 01:14.15 | cromo | is there some command to perform system shutdown that will close the kde session properly? |
| 01:14.36 | Faust-C | why not add your user to the right groups |
| 01:14.40 | Faust-C | thats what i did |
| 01:14.51 | Faust-C | rather than doing shutdown |
| 01:14.51 | Renze | cromo: explore the dcop functions supplied by ksmserver... kdcop will help |
| 01:14.51 | cromo | ? |
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| 01:15.14 | cromo | Faust-C: you didn't get the question. |
| 01:15.31 | Faust-C | no i didnt |
| 01:15.35 | Faust-C | but im tired |
| 01:15.38 | cromo | Renze: kdeinit_shutdown seems good, but I guess it will just logout |
| 01:16.07 | cromo | Faust-C: thing is I need to prepare some task and shutdown after finishing it |
| 01:16.18 | cromo | poweroff is not good enough, it will 'kill' the kde session |
| 01:16.24 | Renze | cromo: yes... where as the dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout command might work better |
| 01:16.42 | Renze | it requires three integers, though, and I'm not sure what is needed |
| 01:16.51 | cromo | mhm |
| 01:16.59 | cromo | I was pretty sure there is an easy way to do it |
| 01:17.07 | cromo | I guess I am not the first one asking for this |
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| 01:19.24 | adamwest | Anyone knows a good site or something to fully personalize KDE? I see these screenshots with the main bottom toolbar in different ways and on sometimes it's at the top of the screen... I want to learn how to fully take advantage of my Kubuntu ^_^ |
| 01:19.33 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.45 | adamwest | that has lots of stuf |
| 01:19.46 | adamwest | f |
| 01:19.52 | adamwest | but i dont know what's waht over there |
| 01:19.58 | adamwest | except for wallpapers or themes :) |
| 01:20.12 | Renze | good time to learn ;) |
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| 01:20.16 | canllaith | I wrote an article on customising KDE.... I should stick it on my website. |
| 01:20.20 | adamwest | i mean, in art.gnome it's much clearer |
| 01:20.27 | adamwest | cool canllaith |
| 01:20.35 | Renze | gnome is far less customizable than kde |
| 01:20.40 | cromo | Renze: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-linux&m=115770988603387&w=2 |
| 01:20.45 | canllaith | which makes it a lot simpler :) |
| 01:20.46 | Faust-C | gnome is ogly |
| 01:20.50 | adamwest | that's what i've heard and i wanna see that :) |
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| 01:20.59 | adamwest | lol gnome is not ugly... it's simple :) |
| 01:21.06 | Faust-C | for the siple minded |
| 01:21.19 | Renze | cromo: cool... although I rarely (if ever) shut down ;) |
| 01:21.19 | DMJC | lies |
| 01:21.19 | Renze | Uptime: 60 days, 3 hours and 23 minutes |
| 01:21.19 | DMJC | gnome is fine |
| 01:21.25 | Faust-C | nope it sucks |
| 01:21.29 | Faust-C | linus said so |
| 01:21.30 | DMJC | kde could do with some easier to read things |
| 01:21.34 | DMJC | linux isn't god |
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| 01:21.40 | DMJC | *linus isn't god heh |
| 01:21.41 | Faust-C | linux is great |
| 01:21.54 | mandraks | with a little effort u can make gnome look almost like kde.... |
| 01:21.59 | Faust-C | well i could careless gnome isnt useable |
| 01:22.17 | canllaith | KDE vs Gnome is not on topic here. |
| 01:22.23 | Faust-C | the filemanager is dumb as hell |
| 01:22.24 | qupada | mandraks: on the other hand, it takes exactly no effort to make kde look like kde, so you might as well just have kde |
| 01:22.28 | DMJC | gnustep wins over all |
| 01:22.32 | DMJC | ;) |
| 01:22.33 | DMJC | j/k |
| 01:22.55 | canllaith | speaking of, I should reboot to linux and fix my stupid work java apps that aren't being good (thus making me be in windows) |
| 01:23.04 | mandraks | qupada no need to convince me |
| 01:23.08 | adamwest | what java apps |
| 01:23.32 | canllaith | stupid stupid stupid ones |
| 01:23.32 | DMJC | hehehe pirated mac osx, it seemed like a good idea at the time, until you realise your sound and tv cards don't work |
| 01:23.36 | adamwest | oh btw what's a good C++ ide i could use (no discussion just recommendation :) ) |
| 01:23.39 | qupada | it's like making kde (or windows, for what it's worth) look like macosx. there just is no point in imitating a lesser product (start debate about windows vs macos now) |
| 01:23.57 | canllaith | anything vs anything debates are totally off topic here. |
| 01:24.11 | canllaith | They too quickly degenerate into 'WELL I THINK *YOU* ARE A BUTTHEAD!' etc etc. |
| 01:24.14 | adamwest | it's not versus, just throwing names |
| 01:24.14 | canllaith | It gets a bit tedius :) |
| 01:24.14 | Faust-C | adamwest: codeblocks, gambas2 |
| 01:24.16 | adamwest | oh ok lol |
| 01:24.24 | Faust-C | bloodsheed |
| 01:24.24 | canllaith | tedious* |
| 01:24.27 | canllaith | that too |
| 01:24.28 | Faust-C | bloodshed |
| 01:24.33 | adamwest | codeblocks for linux? |
| 01:24.37 | Faust-C | yep |
| 01:24.40 | Faust-C | i have it atm |
| 01:24.44 | DMJC | windows: does everything mediocre including hardware support mac osx does everything well, has shit hardware support |
| 01:24.45 | Faust-C | its in my repo lol |
| 01:24.47 | adamwest | cool ill go see |
| 01:25.03 | DMJC | linux, does things well when it has hardware support |
| 01:25.10 | DMJC | there's your os comparison :P |
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| 01:25.15 | Zuph | Here's a question that doesn't debate anything vs anything: Running Kubuntu, how can I get an app (specifically gaim or an IM app) to snap to the side like trillian, aim et al. in windows, such that other applications won't maximize over/under them? |
| 01:25.47 | canllaith | you could set the window type to be a dock or panel |
| 01:25.58 | canllaith | using the kwin window classes stuff (right click on the window border and go to settings) |
| 01:26.24 | DMJC | #gentoo useless as always at solving user problems |
| 01:26.35 | Faust-C | DMJC: well see how they treat you |
| 01:26.42 | Faust-C | no use in using gentoo now if you cant get help |
| 01:26.44 | DMJC | I went in and asked already |
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| 01:26.48 | adamwest | any news about that article of yours, canllaith? :) |
| 01:26.54 | DMJC | I've been running linux for 6+ years |
| 01:27.00 | DMJC | this is a really stupid error |
| 01:27.10 | Faust-C | DMJC: and your having issues that you cant solve now w00t ?? |
| 01:27.17 | canllaith | adamwest: Oh, I'll have to check with my editor I can republish it. |
| 01:27.21 | DMJC | an issue |
| 01:27.25 | DMJC | not multiple issues heh |
| 01:27.35 | adamwest | canllaith: ok thanks :) |
| 01:27.38 | Zuph | If I force the window to a panel, then things still maximize under it, but I can't right click the border or change anything any more. |
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| 01:27.44 | canllaith | and I'm at work right now, so I'm not going to put it up now. |
| 01:27.46 | mandraks | DMJC i thought Linus was running Linux :) |
| 01:28.23 | adamwest | np canllaith... is there a way i could see when u upload it/ |
| 01:28.40 | DMJC | mandraks: in soviet OSland linux runs linus |
| 01:28.40 | canllaith | I could email you ? |
| 01:28.57 | canllaith | brb rebooting |
| 01:28.59 | mandraks | :) |
| 01:29.07 | mandraks | where is soviet OSland |
| 01:30.28 | Zuph | Anyone? |
| 01:31.28 | adamwest | Zuph: i saw in kde-apps i think that someone made this tweak to Kopete so it'll stick to edges... are u refering to kopete? |
| 01:31.59 | Zuph | Well, I'm using gaim right now, but I'll use kopete if I have to. I'm not particularly attached to either one. |
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| 01:32.32 | adamwest | give me a sec while i fetch the link... why do u need this snap to edges anyway? |
| 01:33.00 | qupada | yakuake + screen + irssi + bitlbee = the ultimate IRC/IM combination |
| 01:33.51 | Zuph | I guess it's not a make it or break it sort of thing, but after years of using trillian in windows docked to the side like that, it's really awkward not to have my buddy list on top of everything all the time. |
| 01:34.42 | adamwest | :) i guess |
| 01:36.52 | adamwest | ok Zuph i have this weird kinda ugly thing here -- http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=32089 -- i'm sure i saw soemthing better. let me keep looking. |
| 01:38.34 | Zuph | adamwest: this is maybe: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10326 |
| 01:39.17 | adamwest | yeah, i think that's what i saw.. how'd you find it :D |
| 01:39.51 | wolsni | i'm pretty sure maximized windows don't respect the universal sidebar... |
| 01:40.00 | Zuph | Just had to be pointed in the right direction |
| 01:40.47 | adamwest | well happy you found waht u needed anyway:) |
| 01:41.30 | Zuph | we'll try it out and see if it is |
| 01:43.20 | adamwest | cool |
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| 01:53.28 | adamwest | guys, |
| 01:53.44 | adamwest | how come the gnome apps in my k menu don't have icons? |
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| 02:03.38 | adamwest | canllaith, how did we say ill check ur website or smtng? :) because i go to kde-look and i don't know what every thing in the list says :P |
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| 02:04.01 | canllaith | mmmm ? English? :) |
| 02:04.42 | adamwest | when u go to the kde-look website there's a list of stuff to download on the left.... is there a way to know what each of them means? :\ |
| 02:04.58 | magyar | hello, i keep getting errors with regards to audio from "artsmessage" "device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)" |
| 02:05.17 | canllaith | adamwest: reading ! :) |
| 02:05.22 | magyar | after i run alsaconfig it works, but after the reboot i get the same message |
| 02:05.24 | canllaith | hang on, I'll give you a quick rundown |
| 02:05.51 | adamwest | ! reading what, canllaith? :) when u click on them it opens the files, no description or anything :P |
| 02:05.57 | canllaith | eh ? |
| 02:06.10 | Simkin | magyar: maybe you're not loading the module for your audio device? |
| 02:06.13 | canllaith | kde-look ? No, that's not right. |
| 02:06.15 | Simkin | magyar: the kernel module i mean |
| 02:06.18 | adamwest | u know wincustomize.com? |
| 02:06.23 | Jucato | er? |
| 02:06.27 | canllaith | Nope. |
| 02:06.45 | adamwest | nu where you download themes and stuff to windowblinds and etc |
| 02:06.51 | adamwest | (for windows) |
| 02:06.56 | Jucato | adamwest: what exactly are you clicking on? |
| 02:07.06 | adamwest | oh hi jucato! |
| 02:07.29 | adamwest | i click on the navigation menu on the left (under "content" |
| 02:07.42 | Jucato | uhuh.. clicking on those will take you to another page |
| 02:07.49 | Jucato | under each category |
| 02:08.10 | magyar | Simkin: isn't alsaconfig should take care of it? |
| 02:08.20 | Jucato | so, for example, clicking on Wallpapers there will take you to a page in the Wallpapers category |
| 02:08.30 | magyar | Simkin: snd_pcm 68644 4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio |
| 02:08.40 | adamwest | jucato: that will take me to the list of wallpapers... yes |
| 02:08.42 | magyar | i belive it is all there |
| 02:10.12 | Simkin | magyar: yes, but now you have to set those modules to autoload |
| 02:10.24 | Simkin | magyar, also you should have alsasound in your default run level |
| 02:10.36 | canllaith | *glee* I am so tormenting my work laptop with suse 10.2 later tonight |
| 02:13.46 | Simkin | oh wait magyar |
| 02:13.49 | Simkin | i thought this was gentoo |
| 02:13.55 | Simkin | my responses maynot have been helpful enough |
| 02:13.58 | Simkin | or accurate |
| 02:14.01 | Simkin | what distro are you on? |
| 02:14.06 | magyar | Simkin: i started alsa " alsa reload" but "device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)" |
| 02:14.18 | magyar | debian sid |
| 02:14.39 | Jucato | canllaith: you enjoy tormenting an overworked laptop? :) |
| 02:15.01 | canllaith | he is not overworked :) |
| 02:15.25 | Jucato | oh... then in that case, on with suse 10.2!!! hehehe |
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| 02:17.43 | Jucato | a.k.a. taking a much needed bath :P |
| 02:18.48 | canllaith | hrm. I have not quite enough change for the vending machine, and I feel like chocolate. |
| 02:19.52 | Jucato | walking short distances is good :) |
| 02:19.59 | canllaith | I don't need chocolate :) |
| 02:20.04 | Jucato | except that it takes me away from my beloved pc |
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| 02:20.50 | Simkin | i have chocolate |
| 02:20.53 | Simkin | up to my ears |
| 02:20.55 | Simkin | and cookies too |
| 02:21.05 | qupada | canllaith: i don't know about there in the city, but here in lower hutt it's started raining, so going out for anything won't be as fun |
| 02:21.09 | Simkin | so walk on over and get free chocolate and cookies |
| 02:21.25 | canllaith | qupada: doesn't look like it's raining, just gloomy |
| 02:21.38 | Jucato | qupada: you're from NZ too? |
| 02:22.12 | qupada | Jucato: yup |
| 02:22.22 | Jucato | :O |
| 02:23.01 | Jucato | Welcome to #kde-middle-earth |
| 02:23.04 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:23.11 | qupada | lol |
| 02:23.35 | qupada | i live about 10km from Renze, can't tell you exactly because i only know the general area that he lives, not an exact location |
| 02:23.41 | Jucato | my sister dreams of going to NZ because of LOTR... and of course the beautiful views |
| 02:23.48 | Jucato | you 3 have met? |
| 02:24.10 | qupada | no |
| 02:24.17 | Jucato | aaah |
| 02:24.23 | Jucato | canllaith and Renze have :) |
| 02:24.36 | Jucato | so someone in this room knows the mysterious and elusive Renze |
| 02:24.56 | qupada | i guessed as much, i have yet to meet either of them |
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| 02:27.51 | foxbunny | hi |
| 02:28.10 | foxbunny | how do I check how much memmory is being used by what process? |
| 02:29.42 | johnny69 | For whatever it's worth, I'm seeing studies now linked to reduced heart disease in chocolate eaters. |
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| 02:30.03 | johnny69 | <not kidding here> |
| 02:31.49 | canllaith | mysterious and elusive? |
| 02:31.52 | canllaith | sounds like Jucato has a crush |
| 02:32.06 | Jucato | roflmao |
| 02:32.22 | canllaith | Jucato: #kde was taken over by kiwis a long time ago. A few years ago it was two kiwi women who had ops (and annma, but she wasn't in as often =) |
| 02:32.37 | Jucato | so canllaith and seele both love chocolates... |
| 02:32.48 | Jucato | who was the other kiwi woman? |
| 02:32.48 | canllaith | mmmm ? |
| 02:32.52 | canllaith | Lauri. |
| 02:32.56 | Jucato | aaah |
| 02:33.02 | Jucato | too bad I haven't met her yet |
| 02:33.14 | Jucato | she seems to be a legend when it comes to KDE docs |
| 02:33.36 | canllaith | yup |
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| 02:36.26 | Jucato | you forgot shiny |
| 02:36.32 | Renze | Jucato: the only much needed part was the shave |
| 02:36.43 | Jucato | aah :) |
| 02:36.56 | Renze | six days of growth |
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| 02:37.26 | Jucato | I have almost 2 weeks... |
| 02:37.35 | Renze | looking like Osama yet? |
| 02:37.43 | Jucato | heh it doesn't grow that fast |
| 02:37.50 | Jucato | I hate it, but I'm too lazy and forgetful |
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| 02:38.48 | Jucato | seli seems to have lots and lots of memory usage blogs/analysis/articles |
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| 02:42.29 | canllaith | which reminds me, I was going to rewrite one of those to be the latest KDE/Gnome versions and then publicise it a bit better |
| 02:42.56 | Jucato | ooh |
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| 02:59.40 | nethenson | hello |
| 03:01.27 | nethenson | I can see this image in firefox , but not in konqueror (KDE 3.5.5) http://pfc.joseignacio.eu/blog/media/leon_zamora.gif . any idea why? |
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| 03:02.02 | Renze | nethenson: qt built without gif support? |
| 03:02.10 | Renze | nethenson: missing giflib? |
| 03:02.20 | nethenson | Renze: any other gif is seen correctly |
| 03:02.21 | qupada | Renze: gifs work fine here, but that one doesn't |
| 03:02.43 | Renze | it gets the size, but cannot seem to download the pixmap |
| 03:02.44 | qupada | i downloaded the file, gimp will open it, kview won't |
| 03:03.00 | Renze | bad gif? |
| 03:03.00 | qupada | gimp produces a couple of errors though |
| 03:03.07 | Renze | bad gig |
| 03:03.09 | Renze | gif* |
| 03:03.19 | qupada | "error in getting datablock size" and "EOF/read error on image data" |
| 03:03.31 | Renze | that's why it doesn't work... bad gif ;) |
| 03:03.42 | adamwest | canllaith? can i give you my email or something so u could link me? or icq? |
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| 03:05.06 | canllaith | email sure |
| 03:05.17 | canllaith | or you could just check back in here |
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| 03:06.12 | adamwest | when do u think i should come back, i dont wanna nag :) |
| 03:06.42 | Renze | Jucato: documentation about customising KDE |
| 03:06.48 | Jucato | :O |
| 03:06.57 | adamwest | lol |
| 03:07.06 | adamwest | thanks Renza:) |
| 03:07.08 | Renze | ich habe ein gut memory |
| 03:07.17 | Renze | or something |
| 03:07.28 | Renze | there's no 'a' in my name, dude |
| 03:07.40 | adamwest | ah oops i meant renze |
| 03:07.41 | Jucato | what documentation about customizing KDE?!?! it doesn't exist!!! |
| 03:07.49 | Jucato | adamwest: Tab is your friend :) |
| 03:08.08 | adamwest | jucato: what tab?:) |
| 03:08.10 | Renze | Jucato: don't give away all the IRC secrets :D |
| 03:08.23 | Jucato | don't be cruel Renze :) |
| 03:08.41 | Jucato | adamwest: type a few starting letters of someone's nick then press Tab to autocomplete |
| 03:08.45 | Jucato | saves typing and typos |
| 03:08.53 | Renze | like ju<tab> for Jucato |
| 03:09.10 | Jucato | Ren<Tab> for Renza |
| 03:09.10 | adamwest | <canllaith> I wrote an article on customising KDE.... I should stick it on my website. |
| 03:09.31 | Jucato | adamwest: what kind of customization? |
| 03:09.33 | adamwest | oh like in the terminal, ok :) |
| 03:09.36 | adamwest | lol u dont remember |
| 03:09.51 | Jucato | ?? |
| 03:09.52 | adamwest | the whole kde customization ... |
| 03:10.12 | adamwest | on how it's supposed to be customizable but i have no idea how to personalize it |
| 03:10.19 | Jucato | like this one? http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 03:10.55 | Renze | the author's name looks awfully familiar ;) |
| 03:11.04 | Jucato | or since you're on Kubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu |
| 03:11.18 | Jucato | (I feel a bit guilty that the Kubuntu guide is a bit longer... :( ) |
| 03:11.27 | adamwest | damn this thing why konversation opens konqueror instead of firefox |
| 03:11.30 | nethenson | Renze, qupada... do you think that it would be ok to file a bug/wish for not displaying that gif? (on one hand it is a broken gif; on the other the rest of browsers display it... And i have to use that kind of gifs everyday) |
| 03:11.33 | adamwest | i made ff default :\ |
| 03:11.39 | troy | Jucato: nothing like a little competition to motivate yourself :) |
| 03:11.41 | adamwest | lol no that |
| 03:11.56 | canllaith | I wrote a fairly long article on customising KDE for a magazine |
| 03:12.04 | adamwest | more complex stuff like you see in these cool screenshots |
| 03:12.05 | Jucato | troy: I'm competing with myself then :) |
| 03:12.06 | canllaith | I said I'd upload it when I got home, that's what he's talking about. |
| 03:12.07 | Renze | nethenson: maybe file a bug with the giflib author to support that format of image? |
| 03:12.29 | adamwest | yes canllaith... so that's why i asked how ill know when u finish :P |
| 03:12.42 | Jucato | more complex stuff? |
| 03:12.49 | canllaith | More than one paragraph..... |
| 03:12.51 | Jucato | canllaith: aaah that one :) |
| 03:12.58 | nethenson | Renze: in fact this is the first notice i have that giflib exists :S |
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| 03:13.21 | Jucato | canllaith: mind if I take a peek too? I guess you know why I'd be interested in such an article :) |
| 03:13.56 | canllaith | I'll put it on canllaith.org for anyone to see |
| 03:13.56 | canllaith | assuming I haven't already |
| 03:14.09 | Jucato | canllaith: too bad I only knew about this know. I could have poked you and worked with you before I submitted the guide I made |
| 03:14.16 | canllaith | Why? |
| 03:14.21 | adamwest | what's your site about |
| 03:14.30 | Jucato | canllaith: so we could have worked together on it |
| 03:14.34 | canllaith | Why? :) |
| 03:14.46 | Jucato | canllaith: ok fine... don't like collaboration? :P |
| 03:15.07 | adamwest | i'm reading it :P |
| 03:15.22 | canllaith | I just don't see why you wouldn't just yknow, write something. |
| 03:15.29 | Jucato | canllaith: I was talking about the guide in KDE user guide. I could have used some guidance who knows her way through the theming |
| 03:15.38 | Jucato | canllaith: I did write. and it's on the User Guide already |
| 03:15.45 | canllaith | Yup |
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| 03:16.06 | chovy | all of a sudden, whenever I logout of kde, i get a blank screen...not the prompt. I end up having to reboot to get back. |
| 03:16.13 | Jucato | RAV_TUX!! :) |
| 03:16.32 | adamwest | u all contributed to the user guide? sweet :P |
| 03:16.38 | Renze | chovy: that can be caused by a misbehaving app that won't quit, or by the video driver locking up (fglrx has been known to do this) |
| 03:16.40 | RAV_TUX | Jucato: ;-p |
| 03:16.51 | canllaith | A very long time ago. |
| 03:16.53 | chovy | Renze: any idea how to troubleshoot? |
| 03:17.00 | canllaith | Over 2 years ago, before I had an SVN account |
| 03:17.05 | canllaith | philrod commited my userguide pages for me. |
| 03:17.06 | Renze | chovy: can you still move the mouse pointer and stuff? |
| 03:17.12 | Jucato | adamwest: yeah... I was lucky enough to have made it before the deadline for KDE 3.5.6 last month |
| 03:17.16 | chovy | Renze: no idea, because the screen is blank. |
| 03:17.19 | canllaith | Heh wow |
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| 03:17.29 | canllaith | I haven't even looked at the userguide (apart from to fix the occasional bug reported in bugs.kde.org) |
| 03:17.34 | Renze | chovy: sounds like a video driver lock to me |
| 03:17.34 | chovy | but i don't think so. i type "enter -> startx" and nothing happens. |
| 03:17.35 | canllaith | In a very long time. |
| 03:17.39 | Jucato | canllaith: heh :) |
| 03:17.45 | chovy | Renze: should i upgrade it? |
| 03:18.02 | Renze | chovy: dunno... I don't even know what driver you're using, or for which card |
| 03:18.03 | adamwest | jucato and canllaith: how did u get to being kde specialists :P i see all these people and i dont know how they know all these stuff |
| 03:18.05 | Jucato | annma, PhilRod, and Sho_ all helped me. annma then committed it to SVN, just in time before string freeze |
| 03:18.16 | chovy | Renze: nvidia. |
| 03:18.31 | Renze | chovy: unlikely to be a driver lock then... |
| 03:18.32 | Jucato | adamwest: use it everyday, poke around, ask, read, be inquisitive, learn, etc... |
| 03:18.40 | Jucato | and poke experts like Renze and canllaith |
| 03:18.43 | canllaith | It's just bleeding obvious |
| 03:18.47 | Renze | adamwest: time, and the ability to explore and learn :D |
| 03:19.10 | adamwest | :P |
| 03:19.15 | Renze | and I concur with canllaith, it is bleeding obvious :D |
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| 03:20.13 | chovy | Renze: i think it might have been an xorg.conf config problem...not sure. Or firefox didn't kill off. |
| 03:20.34 | Renze | chovy: I can't think of any xorg.conf settings that would cause that |
| 03:20.44 | Renze | chovy: but you should ask the experts in #xorg |
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| 03:22.57 | adamwest | umm how do you get to the KDE Control Center |
| 03:23.14 | Jucato | adamwest: read the Kubuntu guide instead |
| 03:23.15 | Renze | select Control Centre from the kmenu |
| 03:23.17 | Jucato | :P |
| 03:23.23 | Renze | or type alt-f2 and type kcontrol |
| 03:23.30 | Jucato | adamwest: it's the same, just customized for Kubuntu |
| 03:23.37 | mardi | Hi, can someone help me out? I just installed Fedora Core 6, and I really messed up. When "firstboot" came up, I exited it without doing anything there, and now when it boots, it dumps me at a command prompt, not KDE. Is there a way to get "firstboot" to run again? |
| 03:23.52 | Renze | mardi: #fedora |
| 03:24.17 | adamwest | hmm. that's odd. alt-f2 wont work |
| 03:24.38 | Kethal | mardi: if you type init 5 it should start X. Then I think RedHat has some configurable GUI stuff in the menus where you can tell it to always start X |
| 03:24.41 | Renze | adamwest: how about kmenu -> run command ? |
| 03:24.56 | adamwest | that works. the shortcut doesnt :\ |
| 03:25.15 | canllaith | yay half an hour and I can go home |
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| 03:25.22 | Jucato | yay! :) |
| 03:25.32 | Jucato | adamwest: are you using something like Beryl? |
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| 03:25.57 | adamwest | .. what? |
| 03:26.01 | mardi | Thanks Kethal. |
| 03:26.02 | Jucato | nvm |
| 03:26.30 | _root | hbkhk |
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| 03:31.10 | slyfox | Is there a way to amke it so that Virtual Desktops do not share the same Taskbar ? |
| 03:31.53 | Jucato | slyfox: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> |
| 03:32.02 | Jucato | uncheck Show windows from all desktops |
| 03:32.13 | Renze | unless you're using beryl, in which case you can't |
| 03:32.49 | slyfox | Jucato: Super ! Thank you ! |
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| 03:34.21 | slyfox | Renze: Beryl wants too much video memory from my nvidia |
| 03:34.24 | slyfox | 128Mg |
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| 03:35.56 | qupada | 128 Megagrams? |
| 03:36.12 | Renze | my video card has 256MB so it doesn't bother me much |
| 03:36.17 | qupada | that's like half the weight of a full 747 |
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| 03:37.35 | canllaith | Renze: heh that drove me nuts. |
| 03:38.08 | Renze | canllaith: the video memory thing? |
| 03:38.47 | canllaith | no, the cannot make beryl not show all windows on the taskbar thingy |
| 03:38.53 | canllaith | I was convinced kubuntu had taken the option out or something |
| 03:39.03 | Jucato | heh |
| 03:39.04 | Renze | canllaith: or the taskbar thing? |
| 03:39.11 | Renze | ah |
| 03:39.16 | Jucato | Beryl doesn't work well with anything Kicker |
| 03:39.23 | Renze | sorry, my konv window wasn't scrolling ;) |
| 03:40.02 | garryb | hmm, I'm using Beryl right now. Other than the fact that Beryl is a little buggy I'm not having any unusual problems. |
| 03:40.22 | Jucato | so being buggy isn't unusual in Beryl.. :) |
| 03:40.23 | Renze | garryb: some kwin specific features are missing |
| 03:40.38 | mardi | When I type "startx" as root on this fresh fedora core 6 install, I get the message "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation". Any help? |
| 03:40.49 | Renze | I've only had beryl crash once, and that was my fault |
| 03:42.10 | Renze | oh, and emerald fell down once overnight... easy enough to restart |
| 03:42.35 | Jucato | you don't use aquamarine? |
| 03:42.40 | Renze | nope |
| 03:42.48 | Renze | emerald is more stable |
| 03:43.12 | garryb | I have problems with Beryl doing funny things with windows, like having them ceaselessly "wobble" when near a snap point, or not respect the sizes you've dragged them to. |
| 03:43.31 | Renze | garryb: no such issues here... yet |
| 03:43.53 | garryb | It's most evident with konsole |
| 03:44.02 | garryb | stretch it vertically, put it near the monitor edge, and it'll vibrate |
| 03:44.16 | garryb | I'm using the kubuntu builds, maybe you're using a different build |
| 03:44.19 | adamwest | i tried to install a theme but i tgave me an error at the end ---> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 03:44.28 | Renze | nope, no problems |
| 03:44.35 | garryb | and sometimes when you stretch a window vertically, it'll snap back to a smaller vertical size when you begin to drag it |
| 03:44.48 | garryb | okay, so it must be temporary. Personally I'm a fan of kwin (and its ability to integrate with the rest) |
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| 03:45.22 | Renze | adamwest: chances are you don't have any build tools installed by default |
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| 03:45.34 | deb_noob | is the contact program for Kontact embeded in Kontact, or can it be run separately outside of Kontact? |
| 03:45.38 | adamwest | Renza how can i installed those |
| 03:45.42 | adamwest | *Renza :D sorry |
| 03:45.46 | Jucato | deb_noob: kaddressbook |
| 03:45.46 | Renze | deb_noob: you mean kaddressbook? |
| 03:46.00 | deb_noob | thanks guys |
| 03:46.04 | Renze | adamwest: ask in #kubuntu, because I don't use that distro |
| 03:46.31 | adamwest | oh ok |
| 03:46.33 | adamwest | tx |
| 03:46.50 | Jucato | adamwest: install what? |
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| 03:47.04 | adamwest | a theme |
| 03:47.25 | Jucato | a Style? |
| 03:47.25 | Renze | Jucato: he needs to know how to install gcc and stuff so he can build stuff |
| 03:47.34 | Jucato | ok, transferring to #kubuntu |
| 03:48.11 | deb_noob | kaddressbook needs a systray icon |
| 03:49.36 | Renze | deb_noob: kstart --help |
| 03:50.10 | deb_noob | ? |
| 03:50.15 | deb_noob | run that in terminal? |
| 03:50.26 | Renze | deb_noob: correction: ksystraycmd kaddressbook |
| 03:51.37 | deb_noob | i still don't see the tray icon this way |
| 03:51.50 | Renze | yeah, for some reason it won't work with kaddressbook |
| 03:52.02 | Renze | probably because it is an embeddable component |
| 03:52.04 | deb_noob | should i request it? |
| 03:52.15 | deb_noob | yeah but so is kmail |
| 03:52.18 | Renze | up to you... I have no need for a systray icon for kaddressbook |
| 03:52.25 | deb_noob | and it has a systray icon and so does korganizer |
| 03:52.29 | Renze | kmail does its own systray stuff |
| 03:52.38 | Renze | as does korganizer |
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| 03:53.04 | Jucato | and so does akregator and knotes |
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| 03:53.39 | Jucato | otherwise, launching kontact would give you around 4 icons or more |
| 03:53.56 | deb_noob | i would like that feature |
| 03:54.07 | Renze | I have all the kontact systray icons turned off |
| 03:54.07 | deb_noob | single click icons for each program |
| 03:54.13 | deb_noob | all programs matching in design |
| 03:54.20 | deb_noob | it's flow |
| 03:54.34 | Jucato | deb_noob: not if you're running Kontact... you have one systray for each app running under/in one app |
| 03:54.41 | linuxguy | hi there, I just plugin a usb HDD, and got a window pointing to /media/sda1, what should I do next to mount the HDD? |
| 03:54.46 | Jucato | it's fine if you're running them separately, though |
| 03:54.46 | deb_noob | kmails systray icon is sweet because you can set it to show you new mail |
| 03:55.07 | deb_noob | Jucato: kontact doesn't have a systray icon |
| 03:55.21 | deb_noob | you mean kmails systray icon? |
| 03:55.24 | Renze | I use korn for that... it checks my servers and tells me when there is new mail on any of them |
| 03:55.32 | Jucato | deb_noob: that's my point |
| 03:55.48 | Jucato | when you run kontact, instead of getting one systray icon, you get 3-4 icons |
| 03:55.54 | deb_noob | yeah but theres bugs with that method jucato |
| 03:56.01 | Jucato | what method? |
| 03:56.10 | deb_noob | such as if the systray icon is open and you open the app globally it wont open the app and close the systray icon |
| 03:56.35 | Renze | is it supposed to? |
| 03:56.38 | Jucato | why would it open the app and close the systray icon? |
| 03:56.46 | Jucato | if the systray icon is open, it means the app is still running |
| 03:56.53 | deb_noob | it does not open the app, it closes the systray icon |
| 03:56.58 | slyfox | What do you guys use to quick launch applications? |
| 03:57.14 | Renze | slyfox: I use a bunch of custom keyboard shortcuts |
| 03:57.14 | Jucato | deb_noob: can you clarify a bit? |
| 03:57.24 | Jucato | slyfox: keyboard shortcuts and/or katapult |
| 03:57.25 | slyfox | How does this one called that looks like Apple Dock on desktop |
| 03:57.27 | n8k99_ | slyfox: do youmean like quicksilver? |
| 03:57.30 | deb_noob | i filed a bug on it |
| 03:57.34 | slyfox | n8k99_: yes |
| 03:57.41 | Jucato | Katapult, then |
| 03:57.44 | n8k99_ | katapault |
| 03:57.54 | slyfox | Katapult is slow to respnd |
| 03:58.16 | slyfox | I press Alt+space and then type, and it does not always respond to myconands |
| 03:58.17 | n8k99_ | are you running kubuntu on a mac slyfox? |
| 03:58.21 | Jucato | slow? |
| 03:58.22 | slyfox | lagging |
| 03:58.22 | deb_noob | i gotta do something for somebody, bbl |
| 03:58.26 | Jucato | O.o |
| 03:58.27 | slyfox | n8k99_: No, just Kubuntu |
| 03:58.32 | rpetre | has anyone tried to somehow integrate korganizer with rt ? |
| 03:58.34 | Jucato | ti's fast here |
| 03:58.41 | Jucato | it's* |
| 03:58.45 | Renze | wtf is rt? |
| 03:58.52 | rpetre | request tracker |
| 03:59.18 | slyfox | Jucato: maybe it is because I have a laptop and it has dynapic switching, and whne katapult launches it needs to speed up cpu first and then proccess |
| 03:59.39 | Jucato | ah |
| 03:59.50 | n8k99_ | slyfox: interesting |
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| 04:00.35 | slyfox | How about SuperKaramba or maybe kiba dock ? |
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| 04:02.05 | deb_noob | if one uses kmails settings through Kontact to enable the system tray icon, and the system tray icon is running, and the program is accessed via kmenu, the application, including system tray icon will close |
| 04:02.25 | n8k99_ | SuperKaramba took too many resources for my poor little G4 powerbook |
| 04:02.26 | Jucato | deb_noob: ok I'll try |
| 04:02.46 | n8k99_ | nvrheard of kiba dock sliyfox |
| 04:02.56 | Jucato | deb_noob: nope... either it's fixed in 3.5.6 or something whacky |
| 04:03.08 | slyfox | n8k99_: so what can I use ? |
| 04:03.20 | slyfox | Here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2453491154022766602&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en |
| 04:03.30 | n8k99_ | alt+f2 then enter the program name |
| 04:03.50 | deb_noob | it opens properly? |
| 04:04.04 | deb_noob | how did you upgrade? |
| 04:04.25 | deb_noob | i did report it as a bug |
| 04:04.36 | Jucato | deb_noob: can you link the bug report? |
| 04:05.27 | deb_noob | er i take that back, i posted on kde forum |
| 04:05.43 | n8k99_ | slyfox that's pretty interesting |
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| 04:06.26 | slyfox | How about these? kxdocker, ksmoothdock, kiba-dock |
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| 04:07.50 | n8k99_ | I tried the other two |
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| 04:08.04 | n8k99_ | in the end I just added applications to my kicker bar |
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| 04:08.23 | n8k99_ | slyfox: http://eckenrodehouse.net/images/basket1.png |
| 04:08.33 | Jucato | deb_noob: this one? http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15964 |
| 04:08.58 | deb_noob | yeah |
| 04:09.24 | Jucato | ok, you weren't specific on how to reproduce it. I'll try again |
| 04:10.06 | n8k99_ | slyfox: that way when I have AMOR out, he has something to walk on!! ;-) |
| 04:10.25 | deb_noob | no i was not |
| 04:11.08 | slyfox | n8k99_: , wait what is that? |
| 04:11.13 | slyfox | n8k99_: how do I get it ? |
| 04:11.20 | n8k99_ | um get what? |
| 04:11.30 | n8k99_ | the kicker bar? |
| 04:11.37 | slyfox | n8k99_: that thing in the screenshot |
| 04:11.47 | Jucato | deb_noob: you mentioned you filed a bug report already? |
| 04:12.04 | deb_noob | no i did not |
| 04:12.04 | n8k99_ | at the bottom of the screen- kubuntu should have a kicker bar by default |
| 04:12.11 | Jucato | deb_noob: ok here's what I did. Opened up KMail (only), with the system tray enabled. then I launch Kontact. |
| 04:12.21 | Jucato | deb_noob: KMail doesn't close, and the system tray doesn't disapper |
| 04:12.41 | deb_noob | undo all that and enable the system tray for kmail through kontact |
| 04:12.47 | n8k99_ | slyfox: I removed a bunch of stuff from the bar to make space for application icons |
| 04:12.58 | slyfox | n8k99_: but what about when you have applciaiton opened, you get no space to see them and switch quickly ? |
| 04:13.01 | Jucato | what happens is that KMail will be in a separate window, and clicking on the Mail button in the side bar only brings the window forward |
| 04:13.19 | n8k99_ | slyfox: I remove the taskmanager |
| 04:13.19 | Jucato | deb_noob: Kontact doesn't have a separate system tray for kmail. it uses KMail's settings |
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| 04:13.50 | n8k99_ | all those icons are either in the system tray or launch an app, slyfox |
| 04:14.20 | slyfox | n8k99_: firefox does not go into system tray |
| 04:14.39 | deb_noob | well thats the method i used to reproduce the error on 3.5.5 |
| 04:14.39 | n8k99_ | slyfox: no it doesn't the sys tray is on the left |
| 04:15.11 | n8k99_ | when I click on the FF logo it launches FF slyfox |
| 04:15.14 | slyfox | n8k99_: what is that weather ? |
| 04:15.42 | n8k99_ | slyfox that's kweather reporting what is happening at JFK airport |
| 04:15.47 | Jucato | deb_noob: when you go to the KMail settings in Kontact, you are actually really using KMail's settings. Kontact doesn't have a separate setting for KMail. it just embeds kmail, kaddressbook, etc inside Kontact |
| 04:16.34 | n8k99_ | it's an applet slyfox- you can get it from the repositories |
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| 04:16.35 | slyfox | n8k99_: I am a linux noob, can you please tell me a few more applicaiton such as kweather and whatever else you use often for productivity ? |
| 04:16.47 | n8k99_ | slyfox: I basically live out of kontact |
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| 04:16.49 | adamwest | well i'm off |
| 04:16.50 | adamwest | goodbye and thanks for all thefish :P |
| 04:16.56 | Renze | mmmmm... fish... |
| 04:17.07 | slyfox | n8k99_: do you use Katapult ? |
| 04:17.13 | n8k99_ | slyfox: I have developed a quasi-gtd system |
| 04:17.23 | n8k99_ | I do sometimes |
| 04:17.32 | verve | are there any other theme/suite sites besides kde-look? |
| 04:17.34 | deb_noob | Jucato: thats how i did it |
| 04:17.39 | verve | sup Jucato |
| 04:17.57 | slyfox | n8k99_: so which one? wweather or kweather ? |
| 04:18.07 | verve | you have ants? |
| 04:18.17 | slyfox | n8k99_: For GTD I use TiddlyWiki |
| 04:18.17 | n8k99_ | wweather is my phat finger kweather is th emodule |
| 04:18.42 | wolsni | well, i check the weather in another town sometimes |
| 04:18.43 | Jucato | on my bed |
| 04:18.43 | wolsni | the window |
| 04:18.48 | verve | Jucato, yuck! |
| 04:18.50 | verve | i hate bugs |
| 04:18.50 | verve | heh |
| 04:18.51 | DefiantRican | Hello, can someone lend me a hand installing java on an amd 64 machine. I have folowed tutoirals and it still will not work. |
| 04:18.52 | wolsni | the window doesn't work so well for that |
| 04:18.59 | Renze | Jucato has zarro boogs |
| 04:19.02 | slyfox | Sorry I am stil lconfused, what is the differene between them ? |
| 04:19.04 | Jucato | heh |
| 04:19.29 | wolsni | slyfox: difference between what? |
| 04:19.34 | n8k99_ | slyfox: wweather is a mistake in my typing, kweather is the one I have installed |
| 04:19.37 | slyfox | kweather and wweather |
| 04:19.42 | slyfox | ok |
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| 04:20.18 | deb_noob | Jucato: how do i upgrade to 3.5.6. on debian |
| 04:20.36 | Jucato | deb_noob: you can't yet |
| 04:20.43 | n8k99_ | slyfox: I also use katapault but usually if its not something I have already staked out as regular use slyfox |
| 04:20.49 | deb_noob | but i will be able to? |
| 04:21.08 | Renze | deb_noob: when it comes out, you ask in #debian how to upgrade ;) |
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| 04:21.31 | deb_noob | >:| |
| 04:21.49 | deb_noob | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.51 | Renze | because distro packages are nothing to do with KDE, which is released as source only |
| 04:22.10 | deb_noob | any good new apps? |
| 04:22.21 | slyfox | n8k99_: into which section is kweather isntalled ? |
| 04:22.24 | Renze | in 3.5.6? no, it's mainly a maintenance/bugfix release |
| 04:22.32 | deb_noob | sweet |
| 04:22.34 | Jucato | new apps? they don't add new apps in minor releases |
| 04:22.49 | n8k99_ | slyfox iirc its in universe |
| 04:23.25 | DefiantRican | anyone? what does this mean? Public key for cabextract-1.2-1.fc6.rf.x86_64.rpm is not installed |
| 04:23.27 | slyfox | n8k99_: What? I mean once installed where do I find kweatehr in K menu ? |
| 04:23.57 | wolsni | DefiantRican: that's a fedora specific question, ask in #fedora |
| 04:24.09 | DefiantRican | ty |
| 04:24.09 | wolsni | slyfox: right click on the panel, choose "add applet..." |
| 04:24.21 | wolsni | it should be listed there |
| 04:24.31 | n8k99_ | oh right , sorry slyfox, if you right click on kicker there will be a popup menu that give you the choice to add applets, applications or other stuff |
| 04:24.41 | n8k99_ | kweather is an applet slyfox |
| 04:25.42 | slyfox | n8k99_: Yeah I got it, but there is no station to give me weather. Strange - Canada- Toronto is a big city |
| 04:25.49 | slyfox | n8k99_: it is listed there |
| 04:26.27 | slyfox | n8k99_: Toronto that is |
| 04:26.32 | slyfox | n8k99_: my city |
| 04:26.45 | n8k99_ | slyfox: did you add it and see a cloud with a question mark? |
| 04:26.54 | slyfox | n8k99_: Yes |
| 04:27.41 | slyfox | n8k99_: "The requested station does not exist" |
| 04:27.41 | n8k99_ | slyfoxx: I also have LaGuardia Airport, and several other surrounding airports because sometimes I get that report as well |
| 04:28.11 | n8k99_ | slyfox: I am quite certain that JFK airport does exist |
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| 04:29.27 | slyfox | n8k99_: I jsut chose anotehr US city, and same problem |
| 04:29.38 | n8k99_ | slyfox: sometimes the service is down, sometimes its my network |
| 04:29.43 | slyfox | n8k99_: looks lke kwather does not want to cimmunicate with stations |
| 04:30.24 | n8k99_ | slyfox:there may also be local resources within the computer that have not startedup |
| 04:30.44 | slyfox | n8k99_: Do I need to restart ? |
| 04:31.46 | n8k99_ | slyfox: it seems an awfully silly reason to do so, but it maybe sovle next time you restart X |
| 04:32.04 | n8k99_ | no need to reboot |
| 04:34.32 | slyfox | n8k99_: Ok, I'l ltry that |
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| 04:38.44 | Tonren | How do I configure a proxy in Konversation? |
| 04:39.05 | n8k99_ | Jucato: ping |
| 04:39.44 | alaQ | Tonren: proxy config should be done in Control Center.. it'll host for all K apps. |
| 04:39.53 | Tonren | alaQ: Ahh. Interesting. |
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| 04:40.35 | alaQ | Kcontrol->internet & network -> proxy |
| 04:40.42 | n8k99_ | how do I delete entries from remote:/ |
| 04:40.51 | Tonren | alaQ: Yep, got it |
| 04:41.02 | Tonren | alaQ: Is there an easier way to turn proxying on/off than going through that whole menu true? |
| 04:41.04 | Tonren | *menu tree |
| 04:41.07 | Renze | n8k99_: ~/.kde/share/apps/remoteview/ |
| 04:41.14 | alaQ | Ton |
| 04:41.14 | n8k99_ | thanx |
| 04:41.49 | alaQ | Tonren: not really.. you can call apps with tsocks from a terminal, if you reeeeaaly wanted to. |
| 04:41.59 | Tonren | alaQ: Oh, I don't. |
| 04:42.22 | alaQ | Tonren: lemme guess.. stuck at school, with a firewall? |
| 04:43.12 | Tonren | alaQ: No, got banned from a channel, and I'm proxying with ssh -D 8080 |
| 04:43.45 | alaQ | ah. |
| 04:43.59 | Tonren | alaQ: Well, a couple of channels, really |
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| 05:15.07 | magyar | anyone using ktorrent? |
| 05:15.24 | Renze | magyar: yes, but not right now |
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| 05:16.55 | magyar | Renze: the tracker that is included in ktorrent is "unreachable" is there a list of trackers? |
| 05:17.17 | Renze | magyar: there is no tracker included in ktorrent... trackers are in the .torrent file |
| 05:17.21 | wolsni | magyar: trackers are per-torrent |
| 05:17.23 | Endler | Is 3.5.6 going to be released today? |
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| 05:17.45 | garryb | *drumroll* |
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| 05:18.13 | magyar | just shows how well i know my torrent stuff |
| 05:18.22 | magyar | thanks guys |
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| 05:24.07 | kendrick | ok |
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| 05:24.28 | kendrick | I turned off Xgl and am using regular X |
| 05:24.38 | kendrick | and compositing stuff is still enabled in KDE |
| 05:24.44 | kendrick | and i totally forget where to turn it off >:^( |
| 05:24.51 | kendrick | so my CPU is at 100% most of the time ;) |
| 05:25.13 | Jucato | KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Translucency tab |
| 05:25.24 | kendrick | ah ... transLUCescy :) |
| 05:25.35 | kendrick | i went to Control Panel and searched for "Trasparency" :) |
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| 05:25.58 | kendrick | woah, can't type :) |
| 05:26.38 | garryb | X composite doesn't really work... |
| 05:26.56 | garryb | AIGLX though now lets you use regular X and still enjoy the 3d stuff |
| 05:26.59 | kendrick | hrm. keeps spiking |
| 05:27.54 | Renze | kendrick: use top to find out which process is using CPU time |
| 05:28.00 | kendrick | i am :) |
| 05:28.07 | kendrick | well, i decided to play with ksysguard :) |
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| 05:31.32 | kendrick | gah |
| 05:31.41 | kendrick | i hate websites that open screenshots in a new window |
| 05:31.47 | kendrick | and then CLOSe the window when you click in it |
| 05:31.58 | kendrick | really irritating to bring the window to the front >:^( |
| 05:32.16 | wolsni | kendrick: if you're using konqueror you can force pages that would be in a new window to create a tab instead |
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| 05:32.44 | kendrick | "Open links in new tab instead of in new window"? |
| 05:32.47 | kendrick | checked already |
| 05:32.56 | n8k99_ | aaahh! |
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| 05:33.10 | kendrick | Global JS Policies' "Open new windows" is set to "Smart" |
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| 05:33.21 | Jucato | which is why they open in new windows |
| 05:33.39 | wolsni | kendrick: click the 'advanced' button under the tab controls |
| 05:33.51 | wolsni | and check 'open popups in new tab instead of new window' |
| 05:34.39 | kendrick | hey sweet |
| 05:35.20 | kendrick | didn't even notice the Advanced button *blush* |
| 05:35.41 | wolsni | :) |
| 05:36.03 | Renze | selective blindness? ;) |
| 05:36.33 | kendrick | ;) |
| 05:36.42 | kendrick | ok, gotta go watch Heroes ;) |
| 05:36.45 | kendrick | thanks! |
| 05:37.03 | wolsni | yay heroes |
| 05:37.18 | kendrick | btw, looks like apt-index-watch keeps eating up my CPU :^/ |
| 05:37.22 | kendrick | gotta figure out what that is |
| 05:37.30 | kendrick | heheheh |
| 05:37.40 | kendrick | yeah, that scene was kinda Not Work Safe ;) |
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| 05:38.40 | Renze | kendrick: kubuntu? |
| 05:38.45 | kendrick | yeah |
| 05:38.47 | kendrick | known issue? :) |
| 05:38.52 | Renze | kendrick: probably something to do with adept |
| 05:38.54 | Jucato | ?? |
| 05:38.55 | kendrick | Adept thingy? :) |
| 05:38.55 | kendrick | hehehe |
| 05:38.58 | Renze | I don't use kubuntu |
| 05:38.59 | kendrick | yeah :P |
| 05:39.10 | Jucato | kendrick: ask in #kubuntu. but it's not a normal behavior |
| 05:39.11 | Renze | I have taste ;) |
| 05:39.20 | kendrick | ouch ; |
| 05:39.20 | kendrick | :) |
| 05:39.28 | kendrick | i got sick of running Testing |
| 05:39.36 | kendrick | plus, Mark Shuttleworth owes me money |
| 05:40.05 | Renze | fishin's good in these waters ;) |
| 05:40.12 | kendrick | heheh |
| 05:40.18 | kendrick | he needs to hire me to work on Tux Paint full-time |
| 05:40.21 | Jucato | fishing? cows don't fish |
| 05:40.47 | kendrick | (i love my job, but... wouldn't it be sweet to get paid for something I do already? plus, be able to do it 40hr/wk, rather than, say, 4? :) ) |
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| 05:41.35 | n8k99_ | where do I find the default page for konqueror? |
| 05:41.36 | kendrick | ok anyway... cya :) |
| 05:41.56 | Jucato | n8k99_: the one you see when you first run Konqueror? |
| 05:42.05 | Renze | n8k99_: you mean the about:konqueror stuff? |
| 05:42.15 | n8k99_ | yeah- um yes |
| 05:42.46 | Renze | $KDEDIR/share/apps/konqueror/about/ |
| 05:42.48 | n8k99_ | I just now made it no longer default, not my intention |
| 05:43.03 | Jucato | you have to save the profile |
| 05:43.23 | Jucato | about:konqueror or Help menu -> Konqueror Introduction |
| 05:43.24 | Renze | n8k99_: Help -> Konq Intro, then save your profile |
| 05:43.55 | n8k99_ | perfect! |
| 05:44.10 | n8k99_ | will this save my toolbar selections as well? |
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| 06:19.27 | canllaith | heh |
| 06:19.32 | canllaith | Renze: I came home to a wii being unpacked. |
| 06:19.41 | Jucato | O.O |
| 06:19.45 | Renze | canllaith: cool |
| 06:19.53 | Jucato | we''ll probably see less of canllaith now |
| 06:20.09 | canllaith | unlikely. I tend to IRC from work, where I can't WoW ;) |
| 06:20.29 | Jucato | heh |
| 06:20.31 | Jucato | WoW... |
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| 06:32.19 | aimee | hi jucato! |
| 06:32.26 | Jucato | hi aimee |
| 06:32.46 | aimee | have you ever install any docker? |
| 06:32.53 | aimee | like mac os X docker |
| 06:32.55 | Jucato | nope |
| 06:33.02 | aimee | I had a problem with kooldock |
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| 06:33.25 | aimee | oh, sadly |
| 06:34.23 | aimee | anyway, have a good day, jucato! |
| 06:34.33 | Jucato | aimee: you too. and good luck! |
| 06:34.40 | aimee | thanks! |
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| 06:50.07 | archangelpetro | morning guys |
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| 06:50.43 | Jucato | archipelago!! |
| 06:50.48 | Jucato | I mean, archangelpetro |
| 06:50.59 | archangelpetro | :D |
| 06:51.03 | archangelpetro | how are you hentaiboi |
| 06:51.09 | archangelpetro | :P |
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| 06:51.43 | Jucato | doing some SL :) |
| 06:52.06 | archangelpetro | SL? |
| 06:52.15 | Jucato | Second Life |
| 06:52.18 | archangelpetro | bleh |
| 06:52.23 | archangelpetro | i cant get that working on amd64 :/ |
| 06:52.29 | Daverocks | is Second Life actually anything? |
| 06:52.34 | archangelpetro | although i should probably try compiling from source |
| 06:52.35 | archangelpetro | anything? |
| 06:52.39 | archangelpetro | as in.. not nothing? |
| 06:52.46 | Daverocks | like, it just seems kind of crazy to me |
| 06:52.56 | Jucato | why don't you see for yourself :) |
| 06:53.24 | Jucato | it's not a game... it's basically a virtual world where you can almost do anything |
| 06:53.35 | Daverocks | yeah, an ARG right? |
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| 06:53.37 | Jucato | the only time you need to pay would be if you wanted to buy land |
| 06:53.53 | Daverocks | i heard that the game isn't very good until you pay |
| 06:54.00 | Jucato | it's technically not a "game" |
| 06:54.08 | archangelpetro | you can still write scripts and do all 'things'? if you're on a gree acct? |
| 06:54.11 | archangelpetro | free* |
| 06:54.24 | Jucato | well, depends. if you mean by "good" as in "owning land and building a house" then yes, it's not good until you pay |
| 06:54.31 | Jucato | other than that, yes, it's free |
| 06:54.36 | Daverocks | hm. |
| 06:54.42 | Jucato | but it also depends on the creators |
| 06:55.05 | Jucato | creating objects, skins, animations, and scripts are free |
| 06:55.10 | Jucato | archangelpetro: compile?! omg |
| 06:55.14 | archangelpetro | ? |
| 06:55.14 | Jucato | you don't need to :) |
| 06:55.17 | archangelpetro | yes i do |
| 06:55.20 | Jucato | no you don't |
| 06:55.26 | archangelpetro | unless you can point an an amd64 version of it |
| 06:55.31 | Jucato | aaah |
| 06:55.34 | Jucato | ok :) |
| 06:55.36 | archangelpetro | or suggest a way i can get it working with amd64 ubuntu |
| 06:55.37 | archangelpetro | :) |
| 06:55.51 | archangelpetro | Even running it as standard has issues with libuuid |
| 06:55.52 | archangelpetro | :/ |
| 06:55.57 | archangelpetro | which is frustrating |
| 06:56.17 | Jucato | archangelpetro: I think they have forums, I'm sure someone using Linux has encountered that problem... |
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| 06:57.19 | archangelpetro | Jucato, you have to register your payment details in order to use their forums. |
| 06:57.19 | Jucato | oh? |
| 06:57.19 | Jucato | hm... |
| 06:57.20 | archangelpetro | which i found a little more than disappointing |
| 06:57.26 | Jucato | let me check |
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| 07:01.36 | mdeanda | anyone know of a good kparts howto? specifically for multimedia stuff... audio, video, etc |
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| 07:10.58 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:11.03 | archangelpetro | Jucato, get lost in the forums? |
| 07:11.38 | archangelpetro | Renze, :P |
| 07:11.41 | archangelpetro | well |
| 07:11.45 | archangelpetro | you can have both ;) |
| 07:11.54 | archangelpetro | since you live on the internet anyway and are an uber-geek |
| 07:11.55 | Jucato | Renze has neither |
| 07:11.56 | archangelpetro | best of both worlds? |
| 07:11.57 | Renze | no, I only want one |
| 07:12.16 | archangelpetro | do either of you have a website? |
| 07:12.37 | Jucato | jucato.org |
| 07:12.37 | Jucato | I need to update my blog today... |
| 07:12.41 | Renze | I don't have anything interesting to publish, so no. I choose not to contribute to the 99% crap on the intarweb |
| 07:12.50 | Jucato | archangelpetro: yeah, still investigating the forums thing |
| 07:13.05 | canllaith | Renze: you could rant about people who don't RTFM! |
| 07:13.15 | Renze | canllaith: would people want to read that? |
| 07:13.16 | canllaith | Or gentoo newbies who compile with -09 thinking that's a real flag |
| 07:13.26 | canllaith | Well, I'd find it pretty funny =) |
| 07:13.30 | Renze | -Ozomgwtfbbq! |
| 07:13.39 | canllaith | zactly ;) |
| 07:13.45 | canllaith | There is wii bowling going on behind me. It sounds fun. |
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| 07:13.55 | Renze | I'm almost a pro at bowling |
| 07:14.01 | Daverocks | canllaith: it is :D |
| 07:14.04 | archangelpetro | Renze, that's such a .... "i need a righteous excuse not to make a website";) |
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| 07:14.18 | Renze | archangelpetro: yup, and it works for me : |
| 07:14.20 | Renze | :P |
| 07:14.20 | archangelpetro | :P |
| 07:14.37 | canllaith | argh I wish warlocks had blink |
| 07:14.45 | archangelpetro | u playing WoW? |
| 07:14.54 | Jucato | hehe she must be home :) |
| 07:14.56 | canllaith | alwAYS |
| 07:14.59 | canllaith | always* |
| 07:15.32 | s4br3 | Hi, yesterday I lost my beloved kdm login screen, after installing xfce and compiz... Now, I cannot return to the gui I like. Where should i start? Thanks for any help! |
| 07:15.36 | canllaith | Renze: bagus sekali! |
| 07:15.45 | canllaith | (very good) |
| 07:16.19 | Renze | very thick stuff... 76.5% palm sugar |
| 07:16.42 | canllaith | It's much sweeter than your usual soy sauce, so for those really sweet honey soy sort of marinades & stir fries |
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| 07:17.15 | whatsup103 | whats a good way to take a folder and create an iso |
| 07:17.15 | whatsup103 | like everything in the folder |
| 07:17.15 | whatsup103 | turns into ISO |
| 07:17.21 | canllaith | you can make a great simple meat marinade with that, honey, your garlic/chili sauce, and a squirt of lemon juice. |
| 07:17.26 | archangelpetro | awww Jucato |
| 07:17.30 | canllaith | whatsup103: you could check out the mkisofs manpage. |
| 07:17.31 | archangelpetro | i almost shed a tear |
| 07:17.37 | archangelpetro | in the whois/ section of your site |
| 07:17.39 | whatsup103 | also |
| 07:17.39 | canllaith | Or check kde-apps.org for a program |
| 07:17.46 | whatsup103 | anyway to compress a iso |
| 07:17.46 | Jucato | archangelpetro: O.o |
| 07:17.49 | whatsup103 | i think its called |
| 07:17.50 | whatsup103 | CSO |
| 07:17.55 | archangelpetro | that was almost poetic :P |
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| 07:18.22 | Jucato | archangelpetro: heh thanks :) |
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| 07:19.16 | archangelpetro | Jucato, technically by eastern philosophical ideals.. I am you also :P |
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| 07:19.33 | Jucato | hah! I need to update that then... |
| 07:19.40 | archangelpetro | yea |
| 07:19.43 | LiquidNerd | now when you say claymore.. do you mean the sword or the explosive? |
| 07:19.45 | archangelpetro | a little P.S. |
| 07:19.52 | archangelpetro | P.S. archangelpetro is me too |
| 07:19.54 | archangelpetro | hehe |
| 07:20.06 | Jucato | LiquidNerd: I hope he means the sword |
| 07:20.09 | archangelpetro | LiquidNerd, well, does it matter? |
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| 07:20.21 | LiquidNerd | heh |
| 07:20.21 | archangelpetro | the end result is the same :P |
| 07:20.29 | archangelpetro | and in fact i was referring to the sword :D |
| 07:20.32 | LiquidNerd | well I think the explosive wil make more of a mess |
| 07:20.49 | archangelpetro | i'd think of more innovative ways of using explosive |
| 07:20.53 | Jucato | but the sword is more... poetic :) |
| 07:20.56 | archangelpetro | liquid explosive put in his coffee |
| 07:21.06 | Renze | ich habe ein zweihander |
| 07:21.10 | archangelpetro | and i could wire his toilet up to the mains. |
| 07:21.11 | LiquidNerd | but then you have to ask yourself.. who has a claymore just lying around... |
| 07:21.15 | archangelpetro | so when he takes a leak :P |
| 07:21.18 | archangelpetro | well.... |
| 07:21.35 | Jucato | LiquidNerd: no one... that's what a backpack/inventory is for |
| 07:21.38 | LiquidNerd | and after you ask that question.. you have to realize you're in a Linux IRC channel |
| 07:21.38 | Jucato | :) |
| 07:21.47 | archangelpetro | i'll code one. |
| 07:22.19 | LiquidNerd | will be similar to the much anticipated technology that lets you stab people in the face over the internet? |
| 07:22.21 | archangelpetro | void stab(char *who); |
| 07:22.35 | archangelpetro | lol.. i love the *pointer ;) |
| 07:22.42 | archangelpetro | it just adds that little bit of class to my function |
| 07:22.51 | archangelpetro | if it was a claymore it'd be |
| 07:23.01 | archangelpetro | void kill(char ********************who) |
| 07:23.02 | archangelpetro | hehe |
| 07:23.09 | archangelpetro | claymore(mine)\/ |
| 07:23.14 | Jucato | ~pastebin |
| 07:23.29 | apt | somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 07:23.30 | Jucato | lol |
| 07:23.30 | Renze | no matter how long the blade, it still only has one point |
| 07:23.30 | archangelpetro | lol.. im not going to pastebin that ffs |
| 07:23.31 | LiquidNerd | Renze: but a lot longer edge! |
| 07:23.33 | archangelpetro | that's why it was just 1 pointer! |
| 07:23.40 | archangelpetro | the latter example was the mine :P |
| 07:23.42 | Renze | LiquidNerd: the edge lacks class ;) |
| 07:23.44 | Jucato | ever heard of dual bladed swords/spears? |
| 07:23.59 | canllaith | argh. I somehow made my combat log go away and I don't know how to get it back |
| 07:24.04 | archangelpetro | on a slightly more serious note.. |
| 07:24.17 | archangelpetro | i'd be willing to pay someone to assassinate my lecturer? |
| 07:24.26 | LiquidNerd | canllaith: lol.. playing WoW? |
| 07:24.34 | LiquidNerd | or just reading this convo? |
| 07:24.39 | whatsup103 | whats a good way to edit iso's in limux ? |
| 07:24.41 | whatsup103 | linux |
| 07:24.44 | Renze | archangelpetro: I'll do it for one googolplex in US dollars |
| 07:24.51 | whatsup103 | like take something out of an ISO and re save it |
| 07:24.53 | archangelpetro | sure |
| 07:24.57 | archangelpetro | i can do that |
| 07:25.01 | canllaith | playing WoW |
| 07:25.11 | LiquidNerd | just wire it to him from your nigerian trust fund! |
| 07:25.13 | Renze | archangelpetro: ... in advance |
| 07:25.49 | LiquidNerd | canllaith: turn off the guild recruitment thing in the options.. that will make it stop disappearing... |
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| 07:25.58 | LiquidNerd | the create a new window called "Combat Log" |
| 07:26.00 | archangelpetro | Renze, in truth |
| 07:26.08 | archangelpetro | WoW is worse than crack |
| 07:26.16 | LiquidNerd | Naw.. you don't get bored of crack |
| 07:26.16 | Renze | I've never played WoW |
| 07:26.18 | archangelpetro | at least in second life.. you can do stuff |
| 07:26.28 | archangelpetro | WoW is a bag of donkey ballz |
| 07:26.35 | archangelpetro | and it isnt even a real MMORPG |
| 07:26.38 | Renze | I'd rather have a real life to do stuff in |
| 07:26.44 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:26.51 | LiquidNerd | Renze: I think that's in the next addon |
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| 07:27.05 | archangelpetro | i'd like to see you build a 40ft dinosaur in real life. |
| 07:27.12 | Renze | LiquidNerd: I wouldn't be eligible for the upgrade |
| 07:27.15 | Jucato | Renze: you'd rather... but you don't... right? |
| 07:27.21 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:27.26 | LiquidNerd | haha |
| 07:27.27 | Renze | Jucato: right |
| 07:27.31 | canllaith | I do have a real life to do stuff in. This is some of the stuff, but only a tiny part of it. |
| 07:27.53 | archangelpetro | canllaith, has an edge of welsh to it |
| 07:28.02 | archangelpetro | the word/name |
| 07:28.03 | Renze | without the spitting |
| 07:28.16 | archangelpetro | lol ahh you know welshe then Renze :) |
| 07:28.23 | archangelpetro | -e |
| 07:28.25 | Renze | I know of it ;) |
| 07:28.33 | archangelpetro | luckily i dont speak it |
| 07:28.37 | Renze | why is it always raining in wales? ;) |
| 07:28.41 | archangelpetro | i think if i spoke it for any more than 5mins |
| 07:28.52 | archangelpetro | i'd dehydrate |
| 07:28.55 | archangelpetro | to re-hydrate people of course :D |
| 07:29.06 | Jucato | archangelpetro: I think I can confirm the forums problem.. but it might be a bug... so I have to ask around first |
| 07:29.11 | Renze | archangelpetro: no, because they're speaking welsh ;) |
| 07:29.15 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:29.21 | archangelpetro | btw.. i'm not welsh :D |
| 07:29.35 | Jucato | archangelpetro: where you from again? |
| 07:29.45 | archangelpetro | Originally, I'm from near Manchester |
| 07:29.50 | Renze | quack! |
| 07:29.50 | archangelpetro | Hoe gaat het met je Renze ? |
| 07:29.51 | archangelpetro | :) |
| 07:30.04 | Renze | sorry, I forgot dutch at the age of 4 |
| 07:30.06 | archangelpetro | pft |
| 07:30.18 | archangelpetro | arent you in aussieland atm? |
| 07:30.45 | Jucato | je |
| 07:30.49 | Jucato | he's kiwi |
| 07:31.50 | Renze | I'm in the land of elves, hobbits, orcs, wizards, dwarves, magic rings, etc etc |
| 07:32.02 | Jucato | archangelpetro: he means Middle-earth |
| 07:32.10 | archangelpetro | i guessed.. |
| 07:32.11 | LiquidNerd | Crazy... I'm in my igloo in Canada... All my other IRC channels are local to this continent really.. heh |
| 07:32.17 | archangelpetro | i dont know where Renze is tbh |
| 07:32.17 | Renze | Jucato: I once knew a guy who had an ant nest inside his PC |
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| 07:32.27 | Jucato | archangelpetro: NZ |
| 07:32.28 | Renze | archangelpetro: New Zealand |
| 07:32.33 | archangelpetro | oh well |
| 07:32.36 | Jucato | where they made the LOTR films |
| 07:32.37 | archangelpetro | big difference :P |
| 07:32.39 | archangelpetro | hahah |
| 07:32.41 | archangelpetro | joking :D |
| 07:32.52 | Jucato | lots of ducks in here lately |
| 07:32.54 | canllaith | It is a big difference. Where are you from? |
| 07:33.04 | archangelpetro | UK :) |
| 07:33.04 | Jucato | archangelpetro: btw, canllaith is from NZ too :P |
| 07:33.08 | LiquidNerd | Just goes to show you how Linux gets things done.. Microcrap has everybody in the same building working like drones.. Linux has everybody all over the world...it's crazy.. |
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| 07:33.17 | canllaith | Right, and scotland is exactly the same as wales. right? ;) |
| 07:33.21 | archangelpetro | i'm aware that NZers get insulted when theyre confused with aussies |
| 07:33.38 | Jucato | then you should be really scared right now :) |
| 07:33.38 | Renze | and canadians are just like USians ;) |
| 07:33.45 | archangelpetro | canllaith, :D well, i'd imagine that natives of scotland and wales would have great fits of anger at being considered the same as england.. |
| 07:33.46 | archangelpetro | but :D |
| 07:33.53 | archangelpetro | we're all one big happy family |
| 07:33.55 | LiquidNerd | Renze: naw.. .we don't shoot everybody |
| 07:34.11 | LiquidNerd | we just sound the same for the most part... eh... |
| 07:34.16 | Renze | LiquidNerd: and you say "aboot" and end every sentence with "eh?" |
| 07:34.39 | Renze | Jucato: just like philippines and singapore? |
| 07:34.44 | archangelpetro | i've got nothing against australians.. but i will 'never' go there |
| 07:34.46 | LiquidNerd | I have yet to hear any Canadian ever say aboot... that one is beyond my understanding |
| 07:34.50 | archangelpetro | im too scared of all the fauna |
| 07:34.57 | Jucato | Renze: hah, never compared to that country :) |
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| 07:35.08 | Renze | archangelpetro: just because they have most of the world's most poisonous animals ;) |
| 07:35.44 | archangelpetro | hehe |
| 07:35.44 | canllaith | I have heard a canadian say aboot! |
| 07:35.44 | archangelpetro | exactly |
| 07:35.44 | canllaith | aseigo does! |
| 07:35.44 | archangelpetro | mothernature warning me to stay away |
| 07:35.44 | Jucato | hehe |
| 07:35.44 | LiquidNerd | where is he from? |
| 07:35.44 | archangelpetro | canllaith, i wasnt intending to be insulting :D i was just teasing :) |
| 07:35.44 | Renze | Canada, eh? |
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| 07:35.44 | Jucato | yeh, eh? |
| 07:35.47 | Renze | you hoser, eh? |
| 07:35.48 | LiquidNerd | eh? |
| 07:35.52 | LiquidNerd | hose head |
| 07:35.57 | canllaith | It's cute, when he's concentrating he very carefully says 'about' |
| 07:36.01 | canllaith | but when he's drunk he says 'aboot' |
| 07:36.09 | Jucato | lol, eh? |
| 07:36.10 | LiquidNerd | From Newfoundland? |
| 07:36.14 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:36.21 | Renze | central canada, donchaknow? |
| 07:36.28 | Jucato | I think he's CST, eh? |
| 07:36.43 | LiquidNerd | lol.. You guys must've watched Fargo way too much |
| 07:36.51 | Jucato | eh? |
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| 07:36.54 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:37.09 | Renze | LiquidNerd: no, SNL ;) |
| 07:37.15 | LiquidNerd | Renze: you forgot the back bacon |
| 07:37.35 | archangelpetro | btw,, |
| 07:37.37 | LiquidNerd | ahh... Bob and Doug |
| 07:37.39 | archangelpetro | wth is canadian ham? |
| 07:37.54 | LiquidNerd | ham.. that's flat.. and in a circle |
| 07:37.56 | archangelpetro | the name suggests it's ham from canada |
| 07:38.00 | archangelpetro | ah |
| 07:38.01 | LiquidNerd | about 2" round |
| 07:38.34 | LiquidNerd | I have no idea why it's called Canadian ham though.. probably something a hoser up here started |
| 07:38.50 | archangelpetro | lol :) |
| 07:38.57 | Renze | there's a polar bear in my ice fishing hut, eh? |
| 07:39.16 | archangelpetro | Renze, you scare me sometimes |
| 07:39.19 | LiquidNerd | ice fishing hut? You mean the shed in the backyard? |
| 07:39.19 | archangelpetro | :) |
| 07:39.26 | Renze | archangelpetro: I scare me all the time ;) |
| 07:39.38 | archangelpetro | :) |
| 07:39.52 | Renze | I look in the mirror and say "eeek!" |
| 07:40.00 | Jucato | archangelpetro: there's only one solution... /ignore Renze :) |
| 07:40.02 | LiquidNerd | Man we've had such messed up weather up here this winter, the world's longest skating rink probably wont be open for longer than a day |
| 07:40.04 | canllaith | mmmmm ham |
| 07:40.06 | canllaith | I'm hungry now |
| 07:40.09 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:40.10 | archangelpetro | i want pizza |
| 07:40.16 | archangelpetro | but i odont think at 07:44 |
| 07:40.19 | archangelpetro | i'll be able to get it |
| 07:40.24 | archangelpetro | :/ |
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| 07:40.33 | LiquidNerd | Place here called Pizza Pizza is 24 hours |
| 07:40.41 | LiquidNerd | and they deliver |
| 07:40.42 | archangelpetro | well, order for me.? |
| 07:40.45 | archangelpetro | ill give you the address? |
| 07:40.45 | Renze | and me |
| 07:40.53 | Renze | hold the moose |
| 07:40.57 | archangelpetro | tell them the 30minute rule applies |
| 07:40.57 | LiquidNerd | heh.. they do say 40 minutes or it's free |
| 07:41.00 | Jucato | pizza!!! someone order them please? |
| 07:41.07 | archangelpetro | right well |
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| 07:41.13 | Renze | and no reindeer either |
| 07:41.18 | archangelpetro | I want a 12" cheese pizza :D |
| 07:41.27 | LiquidNerd | 12"? why so small? |
| 07:41.32 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:41.35 | archangelpetro | my GF doesnt say that |
| 07:41.37 | archangelpetro | hahahahahha |
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| 07:41.41 | archangelpetro | jk |
| 07:41.41 | Renze | LiquidNerd: he doesn't want to feel overwhelmed |
| 07:41.48 | archangelpetro | 12"? |
| 07:41.48 | LiquidNerd | lol |
| 07:41.50 | archangelpetro | are you kidding? |
| 07:41.52 | Jucato | lol |
| 07:41.54 | archangelpetro | theyre huge |
| 07:41.55 | Jucato | 12"?!?! |
| 07:42.03 | archangelpetro | 12 inch diameter? |
| 07:42.08 | Jucato | aaaaaaaah |
| 07:42.08 | LiquidNerd | ........ |
| 07:42.10 | Renze | "no, that is not a tumor on my ankle" |
| 07:42.21 | archangelpetro | wth did you think it meant? |
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| 07:42.31 | archangelpetro | how about this one LiquidNerd |
| 07:42.35 | archangelpetro | 'large cheese pizza' |
| 07:42.35 | archangelpetro | :D |
| 07:42.50 | archangelpetro | i get the feeling it'd have to be airdropped.. if you think 12" is small |
| 07:43.02 | LiquidNerd | why would you order a cheese pizza from canada and just get cheese? |
| 07:43.07 | Renze | an* |
| 07:43.30 | archangelpetro | well LiquidNerd a) no pizza places open here, b) suggest anything else that isnt meat :D |
| 07:43.33 | LiquidNerd | would've been more manly if you just left out the a/an altogether |
| 07:43.45 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:43.54 | Renze | LiquidNerd: ug! |
| 07:44.13 | LiquidNerd | archangelpetro: why not get somethign at McDonalds.. doesn't matter where you are in the world.. that's not meat |
| 07:44.20 | archangelpetro | lol |
| 07:44.21 | Renze | ew, plastic food |
| 07:44.28 | archangelpetro | macdonalds is the spawn of satan |
| 07:44.33 | archangelpetro | every time you eat a bigmac |
| 07:44.56 | LiquidNerd | Renze: tonight? what time is it/ |
| 07:45.03 | Renze | Tue Jan 23 20:44:33 NZDT 2007 |
| 07:45.08 | LiquidNerd | wow |
| 07:45.14 | archangelpetro | Renze, |
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| 07:45.18 | Renze | you're living in the past, man! |
| 07:45.22 | archangelpetro | when real life sucks... secondlife++ |
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| 07:45.31 | archangelpetro | ;) |
| 07:45.36 | Renze | archangelpetro: nope... still want a first life first |
| 07:45.40 | archangelpetro | :D |
| 07:45.49 | archangelpetro | tbh, i'm nobody to talk, i've never even seen secondlife |
| 07:45.49 | archangelpetro | :D |
| 07:45.54 | LiquidNerd | lol.. that's so freaky.. what are the winning lotery numbers? |
| 07:45.58 | archangelpetro | oooo wait |
| 07:46.00 | archangelpetro | Tesco is open |
| 07:46.08 | LiquidNerd | Tesco? |
| 07:46.10 | Renze | LiquidNerd: 2 5 9 16 22 38 |
| 07:46.12 | archangelpetro | supermarket |
| 07:46.13 | LiquidNerd | what kind of place is that? |
| 07:46.15 | LiquidNerd | ahh |
| 07:46.33 | Renze | LiquidNerd: I want 50% |
| 07:46.38 | archangelpetro | now if i could only think of something that would warrant going there |
| 07:46.42 | LiquidNerd | Renze: man.. I am going to play those numbers this week |
| 07:47.13 | LiquidNerd | archangelpetro: need more cereal? |
| 07:47.16 | archangelpetro | bleh |
| 07:47.18 | archangelpetro | cereal |
| 07:47.21 | archangelpetro | is for horses and rabbits |
| 07:47.32 | archangelpetro | and budgies |
| 07:47.37 | LiquidNerd | ... |
| 07:48.00 | Renze | especially if it has cranberries in it |
| 07:48.10 | Renze | LiquidNerd: they don't count |
| 07:48.10 | archangelpetro | right, i guess i'm gonna go find something from tesco :D |
| 07:48.24 | archangelpetro | Jucato, i'll pick you something up :D |
| 07:48.24 | canllaith | well around the corner is.... |
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| 07:48.28 | archangelpetro | and DCC it you |
| 07:48.31 | LiquidNerd | anybody here ever been to a Shwarma shop? |
| 07:48.33 | Renze | Froot Loops are just junk food in disguise |
| 07:48.41 | canllaith | burger king, KFC, macdonalds, turkish place, indian place..... |
| 07:48.41 | LiquidNerd | yeah |
| 07:48.45 | canllaith | and not very good disguise at that Renze :) |
| 07:49.00 | archangelpetro | Jucato, macdonalds do delivery? |
| 07:49.06 | LiquidNerd | Jucato: McDonalds has delivery?? |
| 07:49.07 | Jucato | over here it does |
| 07:49.12 | LiquidNerd | wow |
| 07:49.12 | archangelpetro | bloody hell |
| 07:49.12 | Jucato | :P |
| 07:49.15 | LiquidNerd | where are you? |
| 07:49.18 | Renze | canllaith: I'd go to the turkish or indian places before the first three |
| 07:49.20 | archangelpetro | Philipines |
| 07:49.22 | Jucato | almost all the major fastfood chains here deliver |
| 07:49.38 | archangelpetro | at 8am? |
| 07:49.42 | Jucato | except Burger King |
| 07:49.49 | canllaith | Renze: definitely, but I've already had dinner so I'm not after a big meal. |
| 07:49.50 | Renze | it's not 8am in Philip Pines Land |
| 07:49.56 | archangelpetro | It is here :P |
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| 07:50.02 | canllaith | I obviously ate dinner too early |
| 07:50.04 | Jucato | it's almost 4am here |
| 07:50.08 | LiquidNerd | around Ottawa, Shwarma is big... great meal.. cheap price... can't talk to anybody for 8 hours after... |
| 07:50.18 | Renze | Jucato: 4am? |
| 07:50.22 | Jucato | er 4pm |
| 07:50.27 | Renze | that's better |
| 07:50.30 | Jucato | archangelpetro: I'm +8 hours from you |
| 07:50.30 | LiquidNerd | it's almost 3 AM here |
| 07:50.34 | archangelpetro | si :D |
| 07:50.50 | archangelpetro | it's coming up to about.. stupid'o'clock here |
| 07:50.53 | archangelpetro | :) |
| 07:50.57 | archangelpetro | this time of day shouldnt exist |
| 07:50.58 | Renze | GMT+1300 (daylight savings) |
| 07:51.08 | archangelpetro | right |
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| 07:51.12 | archangelpetro | ill be back ina bout 30mins |
| 07:51.32 | LiquidNerd | and with the realisation of the current time, I'm heading off to bed |
| 07:51.39 | archangelpetro | sleep well |
| 07:51.46 | Renze | sleep... oh how I miss it |
| 07:51.50 | LiquidNerd | I got to get the Polar bears out of my room first |
| 07:52.00 | archangelpetro | Renze, |
| 07:52.03 | archangelpetro | be glad you're not here |
| 07:52.06 | archangelpetro | it's FREEEEEEEZing |
| 07:52.10 | LiquidNerd | how cold is it? |
| 07:52.13 | archangelpetro | well |
| 07:52.22 | archangelpetro | i dunno, but it feels like .. |
| 07:52.23 | archangelpetro | well |
| 07:52.24 | archangelpetro | too cold |
| 07:52.29 | LiquidNerd | Only -12C here |
| 07:52.34 | archangelpetro | that's nothing |
| 07:52.40 | archangelpetro | it's like -394742874873 C here |
| 07:52.45 | Renze | LiquidNerd: got new balls for your brass monkey? |
| 07:52.48 | archangelpetro | HAHA |
| 07:53.00 | LiquidNerd | Renze: naw.. he's kinda pissed about that |
| 07:53.02 | archangelpetro | atctaully it's only about 3C or something |
| 07:53.09 | archangelpetro | anyway ttys |
| 07:53.18 | LiquidNerd | man.. when it hits 3C here, we wear t-shirts and shorts |
| 07:53.31 | LiquidNerd | well.. maybe not the shorts |
| 07:53.47 | Renze | I used to wear t-shirts out to campus in Winter... all the people wearing four layers and jackets would stare at me |
| 07:54.30 | Renze | yes, I know, Jucato... I'm weird :D |
| 07:54.33 | LiquidNerd | Renze: you'd be like the crazy guy on a bike in the middle of a snow storm in -25C here |
| 07:54.47 | LiquidNerd | he wears shorts and t-shirt. |
| 07:54.51 | Renze | no I wouldn't ;) |
| 07:54.53 | Jucato | Renze: not really |
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| 07:55.19 | Jucato | I would turn on the fan at the strongest speed/setting during the coldest of days |
| 07:55.22 | Renze | anyway, it's not the heat keeping me awake, it's the humidity |
| 07:55.35 | Jucato | and then I would use a very thin blanket |
| 07:55.51 | LiquidNerd | know what you mean.. that's what the summers are like here |
| 07:56.06 | LiquidNerd | so much humidity you can almost swim |
| 07:56.11 | Renze | yup |
| 07:56.27 | Renze | so much I expect to see fish flying by |
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| 07:56.45 | LiquidNerd | well.. fish swim... they can't fly |
| 07:56.53 | Renze | you get the idea |
| 07:57.10 | Renze | they can't ride bicycles either, but that metaphor is accepted :P |
| 07:57.13 | Jucato | there are flying fish... |
| 07:57.17 | deb_noob | can anyone help me? I just installed a bunch of ttf fonts and other font packages in an attempt to add fonts, and now a lot of programs's fonts are warped. |
| 07:57.17 | Jucato | or rather, jumping fish :) |
| 07:57.36 | LiquidNerd | hehe |
| 07:57.40 | LiquidNerd | Okay.. I'm off... |
| 07:57.42 | LiquidNerd | Toodles |
| 07:59.15 | deb_noob | does anyone know what package i should remove to fix this problem? |
| 08:00.12 | Renze | deb_noob: most of us don't use debian |
| 08:00.25 | deb_noob | i'll try debian |
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| 08:10.38 | Sakui | is there a way to use esd with kde-3.5.5 instead of arts? |
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| 08:13.40 | canllaith | sure, use the control centre to set esdplay as the sound command used in the module to configure notifications |
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| 08:14.12 | canllaith | heh |
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| 08:15.03 | Renze | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster) |
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| 08:20.09 | Renze | bienvenue, annma |
| 08:20.14 | Jucato | annma!!!! |
| 08:20.29 | Jucato | I'm so tempted to call McD's delivery... |
| 08:20.45 | Renze | Jucato: do any real food places deliver? or just plastic food? |
| 08:20.55 | Jucato | some real food places too |
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| 08:21.05 | Renze | get some satay then ;) |
| 08:21.13 | annma | hi Renze hi Jucato :)) |
| 08:21.42 | Jucato | what's satay? |
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| 08:22.01 | Renze | spicy peanut sauce, usually on chicken |
| 08:22.12 | Jucato | ah... |
| 08:23.03 | canllaith | satay is really referring to the way the meat is cooked, usually grill and then on skewers |
| 08:23.19 | canllaith | but popular satay served is with peanut sauce |
| 08:23.37 | Renze | so in the west peanut sauce is called satay ;) |
| 08:23.39 | Jucato | ah |
| 08:23.45 | Jucato | is it a kiwi thing? |
| 08:23.58 | Renze | no, an indonesian (and general area) thing |
| 08:23.59 | canllaith | No, malay |
| 08:24.03 | canllaith | and indonesian :) |
| 08:24.06 | Jucato | you two are confusing :P |
| 08:24.31 | Dhraakellian | wow |
| 08:24.39 | Dhraakellian | I honestly can't remember the last time that happened |
| 08:24.48 | Jucato | in the west huh? funny that even if AU and NZ are in the east, they still look like and live a bit like the west :) |
| 08:24.51 | Renze | what? Jucato getting confused? |
| 08:24.58 | Dhraakellian | KDE (or X itself?) just folded up and crashed on me |
| 08:25.05 | Renze | Jucato: west, culturally speaking |
| 08:25.10 | Jucato | :) |
| 08:25.13 | Dhraakellian | not all at once, but things slowly quit |
| 08:25.17 | canllaith | It's the way the country is... instead of just having your culture + western culture, here we have everything. We are a western culture, but we have people settling here from all over asia and europe and bringing their foods with them. |
| 08:25.23 | Renze | Dhraakellian: you have gremlins |
| 08:26.03 | canllaith | I'm still hungryyyyy |
| 08:26.06 | Renze | and since indonesia used to be governed by the dutch, many dishes found their way into the dutch repertoire... like nasi goreng... yum |
| 08:26.45 | Jucato | hm.. looks like it's slightly similar to shish kebab... |
| 08:26.50 | Renze | my mum makes a good nasi goreng |
| 08:26.55 | canllaith | and most of the places where bahasa indonesia differs from bahasa melayu are in the dutch words |
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| 08:27.42 | Dhraakellian | kdm really needs a way to switch keyboard layouts |
| 08:28.14 | Renze | Dhraakellian: you know where wishes are filed ;) |
| 08:28.18 | Jucato | ha!! it looks like satay is just one of the regular "snacks" here |
| 08:28.24 | Dhraakellian | Renze: b.k.o? |
| 08:28.28 | Jucato | in less expensive form... |
| 08:28.29 | Renze | Dhraakellian: yup |
| 08:28.33 | Dhraakellian | trash:/? |
| 08:28.45 | Renze | Dhraakellian: nah, /dev/null ;) |
| 08:28.56 | Jucato | actually > /dev/renze |
| 08:29.06 | Dhraakellian | Renze: that's only if you're holding shift while submitting |
| 08:29.08 | Renze | Jucato: you keep your hands off my device, you perv! |
| 08:29.10 | Jucato | Renze, canllaith: http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/cookbook/2007/philippines/pork-skewers.html |
| 08:29.13 | canllaith | Jucato: yeah, street food :) |
| 08:29.30 | Jucato | sheesh! yeah lots of those here... I don't need to "order" one... |
| 08:29.31 | canllaith | and on that note I'm going to go get a kebab. |
| 08:29.39 | Jucato | me too |
| 08:29.42 | Dhraakellian | cat food >> /dev/canllaith/mouth |
| 08:29.43 | Jucato | I'm going to look for one... |
| 08:29.43 | Dhraakellian | ? |
| 08:29.56 | Dhraakellian | cat food >> /dev/Renze/mouth |
| 08:30.07 | Jucato | although the ones nearby seem to be only selling fish/squid balls, cheese sticks, etc |
| 08:30.23 | Pechorin | is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between konqueror tabs? |
| 08:30.34 | Dhraakellian | um, yuck? |
| 08:30.35 | Jucato | Pechorin: by default, Ctrl , and Ctrl . |
| 08:30.42 | Dhraakellian | what are you implying? |
| 08:31.02 | Renze | Dhraakellian: that's what you get for feeding me cat food :P |
| 08:31.02 | canllaith | ehehehehe maybe I should get changed first |
| 08:31.02 | Jucato | Pechorin: you can set your own in Settings -> Configure Shortcuts |
| 08:31.08 | Jucato | canllaith: omg! O.O |
| 08:31.09 | annma | Pechorin: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts |
| 08:31.18 | Jucato | annma: hehe beat you :) |
| 08:31.23 | annma | lol, yes |
| 08:31.26 | canllaith | I'm wearing 'jesus sandals' with $150 tailored pin stripe pants and a $200 marino wool top. |
| 08:31.35 | canllaith | 'cause they're by the door and just slip on..... |
| 08:31.46 | Jucato | hm... that sounded a lot like Second Life items.. |
| 08:31.52 | annma | lol |
| 08:32.08 | canllaith | Oh well. It's manners mall, I'm sure there'll be more strangely dressed people there :) |
| 08:32.19 | Jucato | gr.... I hope someone's selling satay nearby... |
| 08:32.27 | Jucato | so brb.. gonna scavenge for food :) |
| 08:32.37 | Pechorin | aha, thank you Jucato, annma! |
| 08:33.13 | Jucato | Pechorin: yw |
| 08:34.01 | annma | good appetite |
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| 08:37.33 | Pechorin | I've got another question... what's the shortcut / how do I edit it, for switching keyboard layouts (as created by the "KDE keyboard tool")? |
| 08:38.00 | annma | in KControl |
| 08:38.09 | annma | default shortcut is Ctrl Alt K |
| 08:38.34 | Pechorin | cool, thanks |
| 08:38.49 | annma | :) |
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| 08:51.12 | janushead | hi guys |
| 08:51.35 | janushead | can someone give me a good guess when kde 4.0 comes out? |
| 08:52.30 | markey | summer |
| 08:53.00 | annma | janushead: summer or after |
| 08:53.27 | janushead | annma, how likely is the "or"? |
| 08:53.38 | annma | no one knows |
| 08:53.46 | annma | if you help it's more likely |
| 08:54.02 | annma | summer |
| 08:54.55 | Dhraakellian | you know, I hear that every time someone asks that question about e17, the final release date slips a week |
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| 08:55.24 | archangelpetro | e17 |
| 08:55.27 | archangelpetro | the boyband? |
| 08:55.33 | Dhraakellian | enlightenment |
| 08:55.36 | archangelpetro | ahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 08:55.39 | archangelpetro | thank god |
| 08:55.49 | archangelpetro | my faith in this channel and its occupants was about to crumble |
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| 08:57.25 | Dhraakellian | now playing: Artemis - amaroK Live Magnatune Compilation - "Fountain of life" |
| 08:57.32 | Dhraakellian | good sleeping music |
| 08:57.39 | markey | indeed |
| 08:57.44 | markey | Artemis is decent |
| 08:57.46 | Dhraakellian | speaking of which |
| 08:58.13 | Dhraakellian | I was heading to bed when KDE folded up and crashed on me |
| 08:58.31 | Dhraakellian | now that I've finished what I was doing at the time, off to bed I go |
| 08:58.38 | Dhraakellian | good night/morning |
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| 09:03.02 | Jucato | Renze, canllaith: no satay... had to settle for a footlong... :( |
| 09:06.54 | canllaith | heh |
| 09:07.19 | Jucato | hmph... |
| 09:07.25 | Jucato | but I'm full anyway :) |
| 09:07.34 | Jucato | food washed down by a bottle of Mt.Dew :) |
| 09:07.42 | Jucato | feel that kaffeine!! |
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| 09:12.34 | the-only-real-sh | i cant change my desktop wallpaper anymore. why? and how to make it work again? |
| 09:14.18 | bxnp-work | is there away to configure shortcuts for raising applications in the systemtray |
| 09:14.51 | bxnp-work | for example like when konversation is in the systemtray |
| 09:16.10 | Sho_ | bxnp-work: Make a shortcut to "dcop konversation main_window restore" |
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| 09:16.59 | Jucato | bxnp-work: kopete has a default shortcut of Ctrl+Shift+S to show/hide the main window |
| 09:17.13 | Jucato | the way to do it would be on a per-app basis, afaik |
| 09:18.07 | bxnp-work | kee let me try it |
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| 09:19.20 | Sho_ | bxnp-work: Actually, either make a shortcut to "dcop konversation main_window restore", or just make a shortcut to run Konversation again, since it's a single-instance KUniqueApplication that will cause it to be restored from systray as well |
| 09:20.10 | bxnp-work | oke first thing first, where do i have to put this shortcut, cause in the shortcort menu i cant seem to find to add completly new shortcuts |
| 09:20.25 | Jucato | Sho_: it would be nice, though, if any KDE app that had it's own system tray icon would have that main_window object |
| 09:20.50 | Sho_ | Jucato: And they have |
| 09:20.56 | Jucato | bxnp-work: KControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
| 09:21.00 | Jucato | Sho_: they do? |
| 09:21.03 | Jucato | hm... |
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| 09:21.12 | Sho_ | Jucato: Well, sometimes it's appname_mainwindow I guess |
| 09:21.23 | Sho_ | Jucato: Provided they have a mainwindow of course ;) |
| 09:21.25 | Jucato | ok I'll look for some :) |
| 09:22.15 | Jucato | ok... kget's is a bit... um... hm.. |
| 09:23.07 | Jucato | kget has a weird object (is that what it's called?) |
| 09:23.23 | Jucato | dcop kget "kget mainwindow" restore |
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| 09:25.06 | bxnp-work | what do i have to fill in at : remote applicatnion,konversation remote_object,?? called_function?? arguments?? |
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| 09:25.43 | Jucato | ?? |
| 09:26.08 | Sho_ | bxnp-work: "konversation", "main_window", "restore", empty |
| 09:26.30 | Jucato | New action -> Keyboard shortcut -> Command/URL (simple).... |
| 09:26.40 | Jucato | but that works too :) |
| 09:26.45 | bxnp-work | oke |
| 09:27.12 | Sho_ | Jucato: It's slightly more elegant to have it do a DCOP call than a shell command though ;) |
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| 09:27.27 | Jucato | yep, if you take elegance into account :) |
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| 09:37.40 | bxnp-work | cool it works Sho_ |
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| 09:38.05 | bxnp-work | but i guess i cant use the same technique "dcop call" to raise opera from the systemtray |
| 09:38.56 | Jucato | dcop only works for KDE apps |
| 09:39.09 | Jucato | you might want to check Opera's on keyboard shortcut settings |
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| 09:55.47 | bxnp-work | shortcut |
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| 09:59.08 | pinotree | bxnp-work: ? |
| 09:59.41 | Jucato | bah! how did I miss pinotree's "hello" in the other channels?!?! |
| 10:00.00 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 10:01.31 | pinotree | heh, development is going slowly this period (exams coming...) |
| 10:01.53 | Jucato | it will pick up pace after March, I guess? |
| 10:02.20 | pinotree | of course - not that it's not blocked, just going with a slower rythm |
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| 10:02.29 | Jucato | :) |
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| 10:24.03 | raddy1 | Hello Everybody |
| 10:24.38 | raddy1 | Does anybody know how to get kaffeine in dragonegg ? |
| 10:25.10 | annma | dragonegg? |
| 10:25.16 | annma | what is that please? |
| 10:25.30 | Jucato | scrambled or sunny side up? |
| 10:25.35 | annma | lol |
| 10:25.38 | Jucato | :) |
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| 10:26.34 | pinotree | annma: the tthing to loads kparts within firefox |
| 10:26.43 | Jucato | oooh wow |
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| 10:26.47 | Jucato | such a thing exists? |
| 10:26.52 | raddy | Does anybody know how to get kaffeine in dragonegg ? |
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| 10:27.35 | annma | what is dragonegg? |
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| 10:27.57 | raddy | Jucato : there are many ohers kparts, how to get them in dragonegg |
| 10:28.06 | pinotree | annma: the thing to loads kparts within firefox |
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| 10:29.33 | Sho_ | raddy: Kaffeine isn't really designed to be embedded |
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| 10:30.09 | raddy | Sho_ : it is embedding fine in konqueror, it has a kpart for that |
| 10:30.10 | annma | Sho_: it's not a Kpart? |
| 10:30.52 | annma | raddy: when you have a video in firefox and you click on it, what happens? |
| 10:31.00 | Sho_ | raddy: A very primitive one that is notorious for crashing Konqueror (KHTML developers no longer accept crash reports when Kaffeine is installed) and doesn't implement e.g. the player scripting interfaces the KMPlayer kpart does |
| 10:31.36 | raddy | annma : it opens in a seperate window |
| 10:31.42 | annma | with what? |
| 10:31.55 | raddy | annma : via kaffeine, |
| 10:32.08 | annma | yes |
| 10:32.42 | raddy | annma : sometime firefox doesn't recognize some of the mime types supported by firefox |
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| 10:33.05 | zbenjamin | hi @ all |
| 10:33.11 | raddy | Sho_ : would kmplayer embed well? |
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| 10:33.36 | zbenjamin | is there a way to autodisconnect users from the session if there happens nothing? Maybe after 10 min idle disconnect the user |
| 10:33.50 | zbenjamin | sorry auto logout |
| 10:33.56 | Sho_ | raddy: Yeah, KMplayer is primarily designed for embedded use in Konq and implements various scripting interfaces as used by web sites, streaming playlist formats, etc. |
| 10:34.14 | Sho_ | raddy: And Dragonegg was initially written to get KMPlayer and KPDF working in Mozilla |
| 10:34.32 | raddy | Sho_ : ohh, can't it extended? |
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| 10:35.26 | Sho_ | raddy: It probably can, but not without further development. Dragonegg was abandoned in proof-of-concept stage. |
| 10:35.56 | visik7 | is there some testing tool for kde like dogtail (dogtail use AT-SPI that aren't implemented in kde3 ) |
| 10:36.01 | Sho_ | raddy: The original developer wanted to show that it can be done, and nobody else picked it up and went with it afterwards |
| 10:36.02 | raddy | Sho_ : unfortunate :-O |
| 10:37.07 | Sho_ | visik7: There's Squish by FrogLogic |
| 10:37.25 | visik7 | yes but they want money |
| 10:37.27 | Sho_ | visik7: KDE developers can get free licenses |
| 10:37.38 | visik7 | yes but only for kde programs |
| 10:37.49 | visik7 | if a program works only in qt it doesn't work |
| 10:38.00 | Jucato | ?? |
| 10:38.16 | visik7 | the licence is only for kde program afair |
| 10:38.28 | Sho_ | visik7: There's also a toolkit-independend solution that was developed by Codeweavers to unit-test Crossover Office/Wine ... forgot the name |
| 10:40.51 | raddy | Sho_ : kaffeine-mozilla plugin also poorly implemented, |
| 10:41.40 | visik7 | Sho_: does it relies on position of the window ? |
| 10:41.58 | Sho_ | raddy: Not the only thing about Kaffeine that is poorly implemented ;) |
| 10:42.08 | Sho_ | visik7: Dunno, never used it |
| 10:42.12 | raddy | best video player for firefox is Totem |
| 10:42.42 | raddy | Sho_ : you seems strongly hates Kaffeine |
| 10:43.21 | Sho_ | raddy: I don't 'hate' it, no |
| 10:44.03 | visik7 | Sho_: found cxtest |
| 10:44.41 | visik7 | it use vnc :( |
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| 10:49.16 | the-only-real-sh | i cant change my desktop wallpaper anymore. why? and how to make it work again? |
| 10:51.20 | annma | the-only-real-sh: look in your home in .kde/share/config |
| 10:51.26 | annma | the desktoprc file |
| 10:51.36 | annma | does it have your permissions? |
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| 10:51.49 | annma | kdesktoprc file |
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| 10:52.28 | the-only-real-sh | erm...i dont have that file... |
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| 10:53.50 | the-only-real-sh | but i do have a kdesktoprc in there with my permissions |
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| 10:55.33 | annma | the-only-real-sh: back it up to kdesktoprc.bak |
| 10:55.44 | annma | retry changing wallpapaer |
| 10:57.37 | the-only-real-sh | ah, ok. i got it. i fiddled i bit with a second screen and it was still searching it. now its ok. thanks |
| 10:58.23 | Jucato | yay!! annma's great!!! |
| 10:58.33 | the-only-real-sh | hehe |
| 11:00.29 | annma | lol |
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| 11:07.59 | markc | I use archlinux and whenever I start KDE I get kmail also starting even though I have the session manager set to start up empty, anyone suggest where I could look to find whatever kicks off kmail ? |
| 11:08.27 | bxnp-work | what is the dcop call to minimize all open windows |
| 11:08.52 | Jucato | try $KDEDIR/share/autostart and $KDEHOME/Autostart |
| 11:09.09 | Jucato | bxnp-work: Ctrl+Alt+D? |
| 11:10.13 | bxnp-work | i love these shortcuts, learning to move around without the mouse on my laptop |
| 11:10.47 | Jucato | :) |
| 11:10.54 | bxnp-work | and desktop, but i earm learning to do this for my laptop, cause its very handy if you knw how to use it without the tochpad |
| 11:11.09 | Jucato | you do know about Alt+F1, F2, F5? |
| 11:11.30 | bxnp-work | yes those i know |
| 11:11.44 | bxnp-work | and offcourse alf f3 and then m to move the windows :) |
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| 11:11.56 | Jucato | :) |
| 11:12.52 | markc | Jucato: thanks for that, no mention of kmail in either place... not anywhere in /etc either |
| 11:13.00 | Jucato | hm... |
| 11:13.50 | annma | markc: it's not in systray? |
| 11:14.01 | Jucato | yay! annma to the rescue!! |
| 11:14.13 | annma | lol |
| 11:14.59 | annma | markc: is it in the systray? |
| 11:15.29 | markc | sorry, I was looking around... yes, there is a kmail icons in my systray |
| 11:15.51 | markc | I thought the session manager settings would override anything there as well |
| 11:15.51 | nikolavp | Jucato: if i want for example to autostart amarok when kde start |
| 11:15.54 | annma | si it restart from there |
| 11:15.55 | nikolavp | what should i do? |
| 11:16.20 | annma | nikolavp: paste the amarok icon from K Menu in there |
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| 11:16.29 | annma | drag it I mean |
| 11:16.47 | annma | I had the French word in mind |
| 11:16.50 | Jucato | nikolavp: you can either set KDE Session Manager to Restore the previous session then leave Amarok running when you logout |
| 11:16.53 | Jucato | or |
| 11:16.55 | Jucato | ~autostart |
| 11:17.03 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 11:17.04 | annma | markc: probably not |
| 11:17.15 | Jucato | nikolavp: ^^^ |
| 11:17.40 | nikolavp | thanks :) |
| 11:17.59 | annma | markc: the systray is independant, for ex the keyboard layout will load |
| 11:18.08 | annma | markc: so quit KMail from systray |
| 11:18.21 | annma | right click on the icon and choose Quit |
| 11:20.25 | markc | annma: yep, got it, thank you, and Jucato, for your help |
| 11:20.53 | Jucato | I did nothing. annma did it all :) |
| 11:20.55 | Jucato | yay annma!!! |
| 11:20.59 | annma | lol |
| 11:21.08 | annma | I'll get a big head if you carry on |
| 11:21.28 | Jucato | nothing that you can't carry between your shoulders :) |
| 11:23.45 | annma | lol |
| 11:24.02 | annma | SecondLife, is it this virtual world? |
| 11:24.06 | Jucato | h |
| 11:24.08 | Jucato | yep |
| 11:24.14 | cuco | The matrix |
| 11:24.29 | annma | Jucato: do you have to pay every month? |
| 11:24.37 | markc | again, thanks for the help... time to test my desktop startup... see ya'll |
| 11:24.40 | Jucato | nope. as long as you don't buy/own land :) |
| 11:24.46 | annma | oh, ok |
| 11:24.52 | Jucato | cuco: yes.. it is the matrix |
| 11:24.54 | Jucato | :) |
| 11:25.05 | annma | do you have a Jucato in it? |
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| 11:25.18 | Jucato | with a free account you can basically create anything and script it |
| 11:25.21 | annma | I heard the french candidate woman has a clone in it |
| 11:25.27 | Jucato | hehe Jucato Kurosawa :) |
| 11:25.33 | annma | lol |
| 11:25.35 | r0ck | What's the easiest Network tool for KDE? for both wired and wireless |
| 11:25.36 | Jucato | you can't create your own last name... only the first name... |
| 11:27.53 | benJIman|work | knetworkmanager is pretty good if you only require one interface active at once. |
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| 11:28.16 | annma | r0ck: there are different tools |
| 11:28.33 | annma | r0ck: your distro don't have those? usually distros do that sort of thing |
| 11:29.07 | r0ck | annma: Im using Arch Linux |
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| 11:29.08 | annma | so? |
| 11:29.16 | annma | it has no tools? |
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| 11:29.27 | r0ck | I guess they have |
| 11:29.40 | r0ck | Im just looking for the best :) |
| 11:29.56 | annma | KDE's are not the best inthat case |
| 11:30.20 | annma | KDE won't make you fetch any missing packages for ex |
| 11:31.03 | annma | it won't load any module |
| 11:31.14 | Pechorin | r0ck: archlinux is using certain profiles for networking, but you'll still have to set it up on your own... what specifically are you trying to accomplish? |
| 11:31.39 | annma | that's the difference between your distro tools and KDE which is a Desktop Environment |
| 11:32.33 | markey | Jucato: second life ftw :) |
| 11:32.42 | Jucato | heh markey :) |
| 11:32.53 | Jucato | brb.. gotta take my FL dinner :) |
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| 11:33.05 | annma | lol |
| 11:33.29 | annma | real life, virtual life, second life... we're all cats |
| 11:33.31 | markey | we could have a kde meeting on SL :) |
| 11:33.40 | markey | bashing some gnomes |
| 11:33.43 | r0ck | I want to be able to connect to the wireless without needing to enter the terminall. Just using to mouse. And I sometimes need to share my internet-connection with my xbox and sometime be a server for my xbox |
| 11:33.54 | annma | markey: lol you're mean |
| 11:34.03 | r0ck | *the mouse |
| 11:34.07 | Jucato | hehe |
| 11:34.28 | Jucato | I'm reading an article that says some IBM people do their meetings in SL |
| 11:34.29 | annma | r0ck: my distro does that, with the mouse |
| 11:34.35 | Jucato | the problem would be binary drivers |
| 11:34.38 | Jucato | anyway, brb now :) |
| 11:34.55 | r0ck | annma: what distro is that? |
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| 11:35.06 | annma | Mandriva |
| 11:35.12 | annma | it has a control center |
| 11:35.26 | annma | for all that stuff |
| 11:35.27 | r0ck | annma: can it share internet connection aswell? |
| 11:35.36 | annma | of course it can |
| 11:35.59 | annma | you can also do all that by editing some files |
| 11:36.17 | annma | but you need to read some docs... |
| 11:36.43 | r0ck | Can't I get the controll panel you're using for Arch? |
| 11:36.59 | annma | not sure how |
| 11:37.13 | annma | it probably depends on other things |
| 11:38.32 | r0ck | what's it called? |
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| 11:43.37 | annma | r0ck: the bin is called drakconf |
| 11:45.05 | nikolavp | omg |
| 11:45.20 | nikolavp | watch that film it is N1 |
| 11:45.26 | nikolavp | Long Weekend ^_^ |
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| 12:04.45 | annma_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.08 | Daverocks | ouch |
| 12:05.11 | annma | ouch |
| 12:05.17 | annma | !!! |
| 12:05.17 | Daverocks | changed your password? |
| 12:05.30 | annma | copy/paste left a space |
| 12:05.33 | annma | doing it |
| 12:06.00 | Daverocks | see, that's why i enter all commands in the status window ;) |
| 12:06.30 | annma | yes I usually am careful |
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| 12:07.04 | Daverocks | mm |
| 12:07.11 | Daverocks | it must suck when you slip up lol |
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| 12:17.10 | markc | I'm trying to preventting kmail from starting up when I login... no reference to it in $HOME/.kde/Autostart or $KDEDIR/share/autostart and I have removed the systray applet from my panel altogether, but kmail still still starts up... regardless whether my session manager is set to empty or remember last setting... any ideas where else I could look ? |
| 12:18.00 | markc | oh, archlinux and kde 3.5.6 (same with 3.5.5) |
| 12:18.17 | annma | kde 3.5.6 is delayed |
| 12:18.29 | annma | so you're too early |
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| 12:18.55 | markc | ? ... I just updated my archlinux packages and I now run 3.5.6 |
| 12:19.06 | annma | well KDE delayed it |
| 12:19.27 | markc | the about menu in this konversation says 3.5.6 |
| 12:19.30 | annma | distros had the source to make their packages but they should not have made them available |
| 12:19.33 | Sho_ | markc: You might want to tell your distribution that they're not supposed to make KDE 3.5.6 available prior to KDE.org officially releasing it |
| 12:19.41 | Jucato | yes yes.... you have 3.5.6 but official release has been delayed |
| 12:20.08 | annma | so yes, as Sho_ says, you must complain to your distro |
| 12:20.11 | Jucato | which means you have a copy that is 1) not yet official and 2) still being worked on |
| 12:20.21 | Sho_ | markc: A few problems have been found last-minute that require rerolling of some of the tarballs |
| 12:20.22 | markc | whatever... anyone have a suggestion as to where I can look to prevent kmail from starting up ? |
| 12:20.23 | annma | 3) conains a bug |
| 12:20.31 | Tm_T | +t |
| 12:20.32 | Jucato | hehe I was trying to hide that fact lol :P |
| 12:20.33 | Tm_T | ;) |
| 12:20.38 | Sho_ | markc: These things happen, and that's why tarballs are made available early to packagers ... for testing, not to release them |
| 12:20.41 | annma | thanks TT |
| 12:20.42 | Sho_ | ah well .. |
| 12:20.47 | annma | Tm_T I mean ;) |
| 12:20.58 | Tm_T | :) |
| 12:21.01 | Jucato | lol!! TT... |
| 12:21.05 | annma | ;) |
| 12:21.11 | Jucato | hm... that kmail thing still not working? |
| 12:21.29 | annma | markc: did it happen on a fresh install? |
| 12:21.40 | annma | a frsh install of KDE 3.5.5? |
| 12:21.42 | markc | re my kmail startup problem, it's been around for months since I got 3.5.5 |
| 12:22.06 | annma | you upgraded or was it a fresh install of 3.5.5? |
| 12:22.25 | Jucato | hm... I've never had that problem...in KDE 3.5.5... from Kubuntu and from SVN... |
| 12:22.30 | markc | I am using the unstable/testing branch of archlinux so it's probably appropriate they provide these packages asap |
| 12:22.37 | annma | you upgraded or was it a fresh install of 3.5.5? |
| 12:22.59 | annma | then you should test it |
| 12:23.06 | markc | annma: I think it was a feash 3.5.5... it was MANY months ago |
| 12:23.12 | annma | well then |
| 12:23.20 | annma | ask your distro channel maybe |
| 12:23.28 | Jucato | markc: have you tried asking in Archlinux forums or channel if other people experienced the same bug? |
| 12:23.32 | annma | we don't have kmail start in vanilla kde |
| 12:23.39 | markc | about my kmail startup problem ? |
| 12:23.42 | annma | YES |
| 12:23.46 | Jucato | yep |
| 12:24.01 | annma | you looked in Autostart, you removed the systray icon |
| 12:24.05 | Jucato | because it doesn't seem to happen on other KDE distros... |
| 12:24.11 | annma | you quitted from systray icon I mean |
| 12:24.25 | markc | not many people use kde in archlinux, they tend to sneer at kde folks and say you should use a reasl desktop <cough> |
| 12:24.36 | Jucato | hm... has he tried clearing his $KDEHOME/share/config/session/ ? |
| 12:24.45 | annma | weird distro people |
| 12:24.49 | markc | annma: yes, and removed the systray app |
| 12:25.06 | annma | quitted kmail via systray you mean |
| 12:25.11 | markc | annma: I used to get the same thing from debian |
| 12:25.17 | annma | yes? |
| 12:25.23 | annma | nobody else has that |
| 12:25.25 | markc | annma: yep, and removed the systray app |
| 12:25.33 | annma | try a new user then just to see |
| 12:25.50 | annma | look if kmail opens in a fresh new user |
| 12:26.02 | annma | it tells you if it's local |
| 12:26.09 | markc | annma: good point, thanks |
| 12:26.19 | markc | or if it's distro specific |
| 12:26.36 | annma | all my points are good except when I paste my password in the channel |
| 12:26.46 | Jucato | lol |
| 12:26.49 | annma | ;) |
| 12:26.50 | Daverocks | lol |
| 12:26.51 | Jucato | *all* your points?? |
| 12:27.01 | annma | nearly |
| 12:27.05 | Jucato | I mean, *all* your *points*? |
| 12:27.06 | annma | see, I have the bug head |
| 12:27.13 | annma | big head |
| 12:27.19 | annma | bug head, !!! |
| 12:27.27 | Tm_T | annma: Big bug you are? |
| 12:27.34 | annma | lol, yes |
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| 12:27.41 | Jucato | :) |
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| 12:27.47 | Tm_T | "annma the fly-girl" |
| 12:28.56 | annma | lol |
| 12:28.56 | Jucato | lol |
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| 12:28.57 | markc | thanks for your help once again |
| 12:28.57 | Jucato | hope he resolves his problem... |
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| 12:29.12 | annma | yes i'd love to hear about it |
| 12:29.14 | Jucato | maybe Arch deserves a spanking for releasing early... |
| 12:29.23 | quentin | hello! i've backuped my Mail directory and all the kmail configs, but once i started kmail on the new system, there is _one_ folder that does not show the grouped answers but every mail seperately |
| 12:29.24 | annma | and also for mocking KDE users |
| 12:29.24 | Jucato | or maybe he got pre-release packages.. |
| 12:29.44 | annma | these distros with their "unstable" branch |
| 12:30.12 | Jucato | these distros need unstable packages for potential testers... |
| 12:30.27 | Jucato | unfortunately, normal users (like me) sometimes fail to understand the distinction |
| 12:30.35 | annma | yes |
| 12:30.51 | annma | you're not a normal user anymore now |
| 12:31.00 | Jucato | I'm not?! |
| 12:31.05 | Tm_T | Oh, he's lot worse. |
| 12:31.10 | annma | you made it with the big heads |
| 12:31.27 | Jucato | hehe |
| 12:31.37 | annma | Tm_T: lol, beware or I'll steal your 'm' again |
| 12:31.54 | Tm_T | Jucato: Atleast you haven't called me "feces" for some time now. |
| 12:32.00 | annma | T_T, how"s that? |
| 12:32.15 | Jucato | Tm_T: oh I'd never call you that really... |
| 12:32.20 | Anarky | quentin: in kmail |
| 12:32.21 | Jucato | I have respect for the elderly |
| 12:32.21 | Tm_T | annma: He had typo once. ;) |
| 12:32.27 | annma | lol |
| 12:32.34 | Anarky | quentin: just select the folder |
| 12:33.05 | quentin | euh, excuse me, none except "Inbox" show the grouped messages (in kmail) |
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| 12:33.29 | Anarky | quentin: there is a "folder" menu in kmail (or maybe "directory" don't know, I use the french translation) |
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| 12:34.09 | Anarky | here, you can choose "sort by thread" |
| 12:34.15 | Anarky | or something like that |
| 12:34.18 | annma | quentin: in the Folder menu you can check 'classify by thread' otr something |
| 12:34.29 | annma | Sort by thread, yes |
| 12:35.26 | Jucato | select the folder, then in the Folder menu, enable "Threaded Messages" and "Threaded Messages also by Subject", afaik |
| 12:36.34 | Anarky | I don't see any news on the dot about kde 3.5.6, wasn't it scheduled for today ? |
| 12:36.45 | Jucato | postponed |
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| 12:38.25 | Anarky | Jucato: ok, too bad, I won't be able to enjoy the whole new password char then ;) |
| 12:38.44 | Jucato | don't worry, it will happen. just not today |
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| 13:04.00 | quentin | thanks annma |
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| 13:22.36 | annma | it's snowing! |
| 13:22.47 | Jucato | O.O |
| 13:25.45 | archangelpetro | Jucato, |
| 13:25.48 | archangelpetro | do you ever sleep? |
| 13:25.59 | Jucato | yes. but it's too early. |
| 13:26.04 | Jucato | I'm +8 UTC |
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| 13:28.09 | MaartenB | hi everyone |
| 13:29.02 | MaartenB | can somebody help me, my kmail won't start up anymore :( |
| 13:29.16 | annma | MaartenB: try form konsole, type kmail |
| 13:29.21 | MaartenB | it freezes without any window shown, a strace gave "SIGCHLD" when doing something with DCOPServer |
| 13:29.23 | annma | form/from |
| 13:29.33 | annma | ok, did it work before? |
| 13:29.40 | MaartenB | yes |
| 13:29.52 | MaartenB | http://phpfi.com/196629 |
| 13:30.41 | Jucato | what is it with kmail these days... |
| 13:30.48 | MaartenB | it is frustrating |
| 13:30.54 | MaartenB | have been trying to solve this for hours |
| 13:31.01 | MaartenB | no idea what is wrong yet... |
| 13:31.19 | annma | MaartenB: did it work yesterday? |
| 13:31.28 | MaartenB | yes |
| 13:31.32 | annma | when did it last work? |
| 13:31.33 | MaartenB | it stopped working this morning |
| 13:31.35 | annma | ok |
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| 13:32.02 | annma | try backing up kmailrc in .kde/share/config |
| 13:32.05 | MaartenB | it went wrong on a remote session with vnc, it displayed a message that it was already running |
| 13:33.16 | annma | rename kmailrc in .kde/share/config to kmailrc.bak |
| 13:33.20 | annma | retry |
| 13:34.11 | MaartenB | same problem |
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| 13:35.09 | MaartenB | I disabled my IMAP too, so it couldn't connect, but that didn't fix it too |
| 13:35.26 | MaartenB | I have renamed my Maildir into Maildir.bak, but that didn't fix it either |
| 13:35.38 | Jucato | annma:btw, who's the dev in charge of kde irc channels? |
| 13:36.10 | annma | Jucato: frerich I think |
| 13:36.20 | annma | MaartenB: try a new user |
| 13:37.00 | MaartenB | annma, running it as root does work |
| 13:37.09 | annma | backup all kmail dir in ~/.kde/share/apps |
| 13:37.16 | annma | don't delete |
| 13:37.18 | Jucato | annma: ah ok... I was wondering if the other kdepim app channels are still being used, and if not, let them redirect to #kontact, since it seems to be the kdepim home... |
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| 13:37.31 | annma | Jucato: no idea |
| 13:37.51 | Jucato | annma: ok. just wondering... head in the clouds.. :) |
| 13:38.03 | annma | ;) |
| 13:38.17 | Anarky | MaartenB: is dcop running ? |
| 13:38.30 | MaartenB | annma, no luck |
| 13:38.32 | Anarky | dcopserver |
| 13:38.48 | annma | MaartenB: yes dcopserver then |
| 13:38.54 | MaartenB | dcopserver is running |
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| 13:39.34 | MaartenB | ps -Al|grep dcop gives: 1 S 500 3280 1 0 75 0 - 4344 - ? 00:00:00 dcopserver |
| 13:41.45 | MaartenB | any more ideas? |
| 13:42.11 | Anarky | and dcop works as expected ? |
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| 13:43.01 | Anarky | if so, I have to give up, sorry, but as Jucato said, you might be more lucky in #kontact |
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| 13:43.16 | Jucato | I said something? O.O |
| 13:43.33 | Anarky | didn't you ? |
| 13:43.38 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 13:43.41 | Anarky | [14:34] <Jucato> annma: ah ok... I was wondering if the other kdepim app channels are still being used, and if not, let them redirect to #kontact, since it seems to be the kdepim home... |
| 13:43.42 | MaartenB | dcop works as expected? |
| 13:43.48 | MaartenB | what should it do? |
| 13:43.49 | Jucato | Anarky: I was just kidding :) |
| 13:44.05 | Anarky | MaartenB: if you type "dcop" in a konsole |
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| 13:44.22 | Anarky | you should get a list of all processes accepting dcop commands |
| 13:44.30 | MaartenB | yes, it does give me a list |
| 13:45.00 | MaartenB | so I think that works as expected too |
| 13:45.14 | Anarky | Jucato: well, delation is my motto, "everything you say might be used against you" ;p |
| 13:45.25 | Jucato | heh |
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| 13:46.02 | annma | MaartenB: rm .ICEauthority in your home |
| 13:47.52 | annma | am I here? |
| 13:48.03 | annma | hello world! |
| 13:48.06 | MaartenB | hi |
| 13:48.07 | Jucato | hi annma |
| 13:48.09 | Jucato | you're not here |
| 13:48.12 | Jucato | you're there |
| 13:48.15 | annma | :) I felt alone for a while |
| 13:48.25 | annma | MaartenB: did you try it? |
| 13:48.26 | Jucato | not so nice talking to yourself, is it? :) |
| 13:48.28 | MaartenB | it now gives an error |
| 13:48.35 | annma | ah lets see |
| 13:48.56 | MaartenB | http://phpfi.com/196638 |
| 13:49.16 | annma | do as it says |
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| 13:51.02 | Anarky | annma: but his dcopserver *is* running |
| 13:51.13 | Anarky | shouldn't he stop it before ? |
| 13:51.17 | annma | yes but who knows about thios file |
| 13:51.25 | MaartenB | kmail runs! |
| 13:51.29 | annma | it won't harm anyway |
| 13:51.33 | annma | :))) |
| 13:51.44 | MaartenB | it is completly empty, but it runs :) |
| 13:52.03 | annma | yes you have to put back stuff from .kde/share/apps/kmail.bak |
| 13:52.16 | annma | or from your Mail forlder |
| 13:52.24 | annma | depends where you have it |
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| 13:52.43 | Anarky | yes, you're right, and I should better work on my school work instead of trying to have the last word here ;) |
| 13:53.01 | slyfox | ANyone here uses Kweather? |
| 13:53.03 | annma | what school are you, Anarky? |
| 13:53.10 | slyfox | I always get an error with Kweather - station not found ? |
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| 13:53.28 | MaartenB | nice, I have my mail back |
| 13:53.29 | Anarky | annma: well, officially, INSA de Rennes |
| 13:53.34 | annma | woow |
| 13:53.37 | annma | cool |
| 13:53.49 | annma | MaartenB: :) |
| 13:53.55 | Anarky | but, in fact, I'm doing a "Master 2 Recherche" |
| 13:53.59 | annma | slyfox: it never worked? |
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| 13:54.09 | annma | Anarky: oh, what field? |
| 13:54.23 | slyfox | annma: No, I restarted and same thing - question marks |
| 13:54.47 | annma | slyfox: new install of kweather then? |
| 13:54.55 | Anarky | Computer Science ;) System and Architechture, the title is |
| 13:55.03 | annma | :) cool |
| 13:55.21 | slyfox | annma: eh...ok. |
| 13:55.28 | Anarky | yes, I don't have to complain :) |
| 13:55.47 | slyfox | annma: What is the difference between Request Uninstall and Request Purging ? |
| 13:55.47 | annma | is it snowing in Rennes? |
| 13:56.05 | annma | slyfox: no idea, isn't that a distro thing or is it KWeather? |
| 13:56.18 | Anarky | no, there is no snow here, never ... |
| 13:56.23 | annma | I odn't run a distro for kde nor do I run kweather |
| 13:56.27 | Anarky | annma: where are you from ? |
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| 13:56.32 | stinger_au | yo |
| 13:56.35 | annma | my husband is a weather researcher in fact |
| 13:56.36 | stinger_au | i have a question |
| 13:56.41 | annma | Toulouse Anarky |
| 13:56.46 | slyfox | annma: that is when you are ins the package manager |
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| 13:56.55 | annma | slyfox: distro? |
| 13:56.56 | Anarky | my sister is in Toulouse |
| 13:56.56 | stinger_au | is there a command that a user can run to kill X without having to type ctrl alt backspace ? |
| 13:57.03 | slyfox | annma: Kubuntu 6.10 |
| 13:57.10 | Anarky | stinger_au: killall X ? |
| 13:57.14 | annma | slyfox: ask in #kubuntu then please |
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| 13:57.38 | stinger_au | Anarky, killall X |
| 13:57.38 | stinger_au | X(12163): Operation not permitted |
| 13:57.38 | stinger_au | X: no process killed |
| 13:57.46 | stinger_au | Anarky, works as root but not as user |
| 13:58.17 | stinger_au | Anarky, i have even tried adding user to sudoers so that the user is able to run the kill command but still no luck |
| 13:58.27 | Anarky | yes, you're right, kdm runs Xas root |
| 13:58.35 | Anarky | I didn't think so |
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| 13:59.51 | stinger_au | damn so how do i do it then ? |
| 14:00.02 | stinger_au | i mean as a user i can type ctrl alt backspace and that works as a user |
| 14:01.26 | benJIman|work | you can't remotely |
| 14:01.33 | benJIman|work | and you can disable that keyboard shortcut for X if you wish |
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| 14:03.31 | stinger_au | i don't want to diable it - i just want to be able to have a script run that restarts the X session |
| 14:03.42 | stinger_au | i all ready have auto login setup - with a 5 second delay |
| 14:03.48 | stinger_au | so all i need to do now is kill X |
| 14:04.01 | stinger_au | this is all so that i can switch to TV output easily |
| 14:05.20 | nikolavp | hello everybody |
| 14:05.26 | nikolavp | how do i install a kde icon theme |
| 14:05.39 | nikolavp | when i uncompress the archive i could only see folders :) |
| 14:06.10 | stinger_au | you have to load them for mem |
| 14:06.28 | stinger_au | hey this might work to solve my prob http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/KShutDown-Review-41328.shtml |
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| 14:08.26 | Anarky | stinger_au: doesn't that simply call "kdeinit_shutdown" ? |
| 14:09.10 | stinger_au | Anarky, no ideas |
| 14:09.26 | stinger_au | Anarky, well is there a command that user can run to logout ? |
| 14:09.32 | stinger_au | though killing X is much faster |
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| 14:21.39 | stinger_au | are you able to change ctrl-alt-backspace to a differnt key ? |
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| 14:35.21 | Anarky | <stinger_au> Anarky, well is there a command that user can run to logout ? >> I think "kdeinit_shutdown" is the command used to log out of kde |
| 14:35.37 | Anarky | Rha, he left again |
| 14:35.42 | Jucato | :P |
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| 14:58.02 | tapas | wtf does "Error: cannot save to address book" kmail mean? (addressed at kmail) How about telling me why the hell you cannot save to the addresbook? |
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| 15:03.52 | MinceR | kmail has just moved all my mail from the maildir into its own inbox. ingenious. |
| 15:04.04 | MinceR | thankfully it doesn't understand subfolders so it didn't fuck them all up. |
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| 15:05.29 | annma | MinceR: it did that? |
| 15:05.34 | MinceR | it did |
| 15:05.39 | annma | where is its own inbox? |
| 15:05.44 | MinceR | thankfully i've found them and moved them back |
| 15:06.16 | MinceR | ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox |
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| 15:11.39 | annma | MinceR: what kmail version? |
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| 15:13.36 | MinceR | 3.5.5 if i can decipher ubuntu's notation correctly. |
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| 15:15.05 | annma | MinceR: it did that out of the blue or did you just upgrade? |
| 15:15.21 | MinceR | i ran it to check if evolution or my maildir is broken |
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| 15:15.38 | MinceR | i still don't know what's up but i know kmail was the wrong tool to check it with. |
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| 15:16.02 | MinceR | maybe the listserv swapped the mail headers around |
| 15:16.06 | annma | wait |
| 15:16.13 | annma | answer precisely please |
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| 15:16.22 | annma | it was the first time you ran KMail? |
| 15:16.56 | tapas | i suppose i have to grep the damn kmail source to find out what it means with this error |
| 15:19.09 | annma | MinceR: it was the first time you ran KMail? |
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| 15:19.24 | MinceR | might have been the first time since i switched to maildir |
| 15:19.59 | annma | previously your mail was where? |
| 15:20.02 | MinceR | iirc when i did, i configured kmail to use it, looked at the mostly empty inbox and saw that it didn't see the subfolders and decided not to use it. then i forgot about the whole deal. |
| 15:20.07 | MinceR | ~/Maildir |
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| 15:21.07 | MinceR | i guess i have one more reason to do the move to imap on my home server. |
| 15:21.31 | annma | I'm asking in #kontact but it seems a dead channel |
| 15:22.14 | annma | I'd like to know how it can be possible |
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| 15:22.45 | MinceR | i guess it has incomplete, not thought through maildir support |
| 15:22.51 | ravermeister | hello i have got a little problem... |
| 15:23.04 | MinceR | reads cur/ and moves the mail as if it was an mbox mail spool. |
| 15:23.05 | ravermeister | i have updatet kde from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5 |
| 15:23.42 | ravermeister | and now when i wants to login, it wont works until i restart the xserver and type my username and password in kdm again |
| 15:24.00 | ravermeister | does anybody knows the problem?? |
| 15:24.14 | tapas | do you get an error? |
| 15:24.40 | ravermeister | im using kubuntu dapper |
| 15:24.44 | ravermeister | no nothing |
| 15:24.53 | tapas | does X simply quit? |
| 15:24.54 | ravermeister | when i boot |
| 15:25.02 | ravermeister | i can see the screen of kdm |
| 15:25.19 | ravermeister | i type in my username and password and choose "login" button |
| 15:25.20 | tapas | what happens when you login the second time |
| 15:25.40 | ravermeister | then i just can see the background wallpaper and nothing happens |
| 15:25.54 | ravermeister | until i restart the x server with strg+alt+backspace |
| 15:26.05 | ravermeister | and then i see the kdm login screen again and then it works... |
| 15:26.29 | tapas | sounds esoteric :) |
| 15:27.12 | ravermeister | i really dont know what i can do |
| 15:27.28 | ravermeister | can i tell kdm somehow to re write his config files? |
| 15:27.34 | annma | ravermeister: did you ask in #kubuntu? |
| 15:27.38 | tapas | did you ask in #ubuntu? |
| 15:27.39 | tapas | hah |
| 15:27.41 | ravermeister | no not yet |
| 15:27.46 | tapas | ravermeister: one way would be: |
| 15:27.46 | annma | try that first |
| 15:27.55 | ravermeister | yes |
| 15:28.00 | tapas | mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.bak |
| 15:28.24 | tapas | [from console] |
| 15:28.26 | ravermeister | okay |
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| 15:28.32 | ravermeister | thats clear |
| 15:28.33 | ravermeister | ;) |
| 15:28.50 | ravermeister | but shouldn't i edit the global in /etc too? |
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| 15:29.02 | tapas | you lose all kde app settings, too though.. |
| 15:29.17 | tapas | [cause apps store stuff under .kde] |
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| 15:29.21 | ravermeister | i know |
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| 15:29.35 | ravermeister | but i can export some files back ;) |
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| 15:29.58 | ravermeister | i thaught it could had something to do with the kdmrc |
| 15:30.05 | ravermeister | but i'm not sure |
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| 15:31.05 | ravermeister | okay moment i will try it |
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| 15:33.03 | annma | MinceR: one guy said it seems strange |
| 15:34.00 | annma | and that it seems hardly possible |
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| 15:35.04 | annma | MinceR: your distro please? |
| 15:35.10 | MinceR | ubuntu |
| 15:35.17 | MinceR | edgy |
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| 15:35.53 | annma | are the package the same than KUbuntu then? |
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| 15:36.19 | ravermeister | back again |
| 15:36.28 | ravermeister | sadly it didn't change anythinh |
| 15:36.30 | ravermeister | h=g |
| 15:37.02 | MinceR | probably it's the same package |
| 15:37.07 | ravermeister | is there a possibility to say kdm he should write his config files new |
| 15:37.23 | MinceR | i even installed the kubuntu-desktop package after i realized it existed |
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| 15:39.07 | annma | ravermeister: did you try via KControl? |
| 15:39.29 | annma | tehre's a Default option |
| 15:41.59 | ravermeister | yeah right i could try it. but im not sure which files kcontrol edits. i found an similar, problem (but with logout i guess) and they said it is something with the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc |
| 15:42.16 | ravermeister | but it didnt help anyway |
| 15:42.41 | ravermeister | they said you have toadd a TerminateServer=true to some sections |
| 15:43.00 | annma | ask in #kbuntu if it is global |
| 15:43.28 | ravermeister | i ask there already |
| 15:44.01 | ravermeister | but there are no such nice helpful people like here ;) |
| 15:44.10 | ravermeister | didnt got an answer yet |
| 15:44.34 | ravermeister | but moment i just put back my old .kde, relogin |
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| 15:47.26 | pinotree | PhilOut: ping (when back) |
| 15:47.39 | Jucato | heh |
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| 15:58.11 | Lu_Xun00 | Hello? |
| 15:58.51 | Lu_Xun00 | Ok... Linux is starting to confuse me... |
| 15:59.59 | annma | Lu_Xun00: just ask your KDE related question |
| 16:00.09 | annma | hey hey Tm_T |
| 16:00.15 | annma | you're impolite |
| 16:00.35 | Lu_Xun00 | I have many questions, the distribution I am using right now is SUSE |
| 16:00.48 | annma | here the questions should be about KDE |
| 16:00.59 | annma | ask them one by one |
| 16:01.00 | Lu_Xun00 | Forgive me, but I don't understand what KDE is |
| 16:01.18 | Lu_Xun00 | I am completely new to Linux |
| 16:01.22 | annma | KDE is that nice desktop you should have |
| 16:01.35 | annma | so ask your first question |
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| 16:01.50 | annma | I'll tell you where to ask it if it does not fit here |
| 16:01.59 | Lu_Xun00 | Ok, where can I place programs after I have installed them? |
| 16:02.09 | Lu_Xun00 | I am looking for a type of program folder |
| 16:02.14 | annma | you install them with Suse YAST? |
| 16:02.29 | annma | they should install themselves in /usr/bin mainly |
| 16:02.43 | Lu_Xun00 | For example |
| 16:02.44 | annma | the libs in /usr/lib |
| 16:02.51 | Lu_Xun00 | I got the newer version of Firefox |
| 16:02.52 | MinceR | is kmail supposed to have support for maildir subfolders? |
| 16:03.02 | annma | MinceR: #kontact |
| 16:03.16 | MinceR | i'm at the channel limit already :/ |
| 16:03.21 | Lu_Xun00 | And, I "unzipped" it, I'm not sure what your compression format is called |
| 16:03.25 | annma | MinceR: well then |
| 16:03.37 | Lu_Xun00 | Then, I have been loading it right off that folder |
| 16:03.48 | Lu_Xun00 | I can't seem to get rid of my old firefox |
| 16:04.02 | annma | use Yast to remove the old Firefox |
| 16:04.11 | annma | yast is the package manager I think |
| 16:04.26 | annma | ask in #suse for that one |
| 16:04.26 | Lu_Xun00 | So when I install it, what should I do with the compressed files? |
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| 16:04.54 | annma | isn't there a README in the package? |
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| 16:05.18 | Lu_Xun00 | Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough, I'll try to find it |
| 16:05.19 | guglielf | hi, any good usenet reader for kde? |
| 16:05.25 | Lu_Xun00 | Thanks |
| 16:06.11 | Tm_T | annma: Sorry, I don't know from where I learned these bad habits. ;) |
| 16:06.16 | annma | lol |
| 16:07.07 | Tm_T | And you say it's ok to laught straight to my face?! |
| 16:07.25 | Theory | guglielf: you could try knode |
| 16:08.01 | guglielf | Theory: yeah i found it! tnx :) |
| 16:08.30 | guglielf | there's also knews |
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| 16:15.05 | eSa| | hi, i'm debian user and I'm compiling fuse_kio. During configure process I'm required to have KDE headers installed. Any hints about how the required package named? |
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| 16:16.28 | benJIman|work | eSa|: probably kdelibs-dev and kdebase-dev maybe, but ask in your distro channel |
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| 16:17.00 | eSa| | thank you |
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| 16:30.31 | shastry | is there a way to have different icons on different desktops ? |
| 16:32.46 | SimAtWork | you mean the virtual desktops |
| 16:32.51 | SimAtWork | where you switch from one to the next |
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| 16:43.48 | markc | is there a KDE app that will backup and restore user settings ? |
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| 16:45.58 | markc | l started fiddling with a shell script to store my settings but I thoought there might be an app that already does it |
| 16:46.01 | mots | hi, i would like to know what i have to do to make my konqueror open new tabs on middleclick (on links) instead of new windows |
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| 16:48.01 | mots | anyone? |
| 16:48.18 | markc | Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior |
| 16:48.39 | markc | well, not MMB specific but the MMB works for me |
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| 16:49.10 | mots | markc: well, it opens new windows instead of new tabs like it used to |
| 16:49.28 | markc | middle click opens url in selection... on above page |
| 16:49.29 | mots | and i don't know any way to change that D: |
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| 16:49.42 | mots | markc: thats ticked |
| 16:49.54 | mots | and it DOES open them, but as window |
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| 16:51.25 | markc | have you got the "open links in new tab..." selected? |
| 16:52.51 | mots | markc: ty, you saved my day |
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| 16:53.00 | markc | cool :) |
| 16:53.32 | mots | maybe you can help me with my next tab-related prob: kopete opens new windows for every chat instead of one tabbed window |
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| 16:55.05 | markc | is it possible to have a single tabbed window for chats ? |
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| 16:57.18 | mots | well, i used to have on in kubuntu, so i guess yes |
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| 16:59.36 | markc | oh yeah... Settings -> Behavior -> Chat -> Chat window grouping policy |
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| 17:00.38 | markc | Group all message in same chat window |
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| 17:00.58 | markc | have you found it ? |
| 17:01.00 | mots | ty |
| 17:01.02 | mots | yeah |
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| 17:01.29 | markc | btw have you just reinstalled kde by any chance ? |
| 17:01.54 | mots | well, i just replaced kubuntu with arch |
| 17:02.29 | mots | but kept my old /home |
| 17:02.29 | markc | and setting up kde ... yet again ? |
| 17:02.29 | mots | yeah |
| 17:02.35 | markc | what, but some settings did not show up in the AL install ? |
| 17:02.49 | mots | how do you mean that? |
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| 17:03.29 | mots | it somehow didn't keep all the settings D: |
| 17:03.30 | markc | as in, not all the same settings you had in kubuntu show up properly in AL |
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| 17:03.32 | mots | yeah |
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| 17:04.06 | markc | yeah, I've got both kubuntu and AL on this laptop with a separate /home and I switch between them... some things get messed up |
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| 17:04.28 | markc | when using the same /home with either distro |
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| 17:04.47 | Nebukadneza | hi |
| 17:05.01 | Nebukadneza | is there a way to make konqueror restore tabs after a accidential close / crash? |
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| 17:05.57 | JohnFlux | Nebukadneza: no but that feature should be added :-) |
| 17:06.03 | bxnp-work | guys a newbe at imap gets this message : No writable resource was found, saving will not be possible. Reconfigure KMail first. |
| 17:06.35 | bxnp-work | how can i solve this problem, i get this when i want to put an event on my calander |
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| 17:06.48 | bxnp-work | correction new contact to my adresbook |
| 17:07.07 | markc | bxnp-work: are you using a remote imap account ? |
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| 17:07.33 | sredna | Nebukadneza: The crash recovery plugin |
| 17:07.42 | bxnp-work | yes markc, |
| 17:07.55 | Nebukadneza | sredna: kay - i'll check |
| 17:07.59 | sredna | Nebukadneza: Iirc it's in the kdeaddons module, and if installed you can enable it in settings->configure extensions |
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| 17:08.45 | markc | bxnp-work: I had this once, long ago, and did something to work around it... trying to remember |
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| 17:09.36 | bxnp-work | oke markc, i will wait untail you remember what you did :) |
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| 17:11.40 | Nebukadneza | sredna: but doesnt help for accidential close |
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| 17:15.57 | markc | bxnp-work: I saved a calendar, got an error message when doing so but it is in my imap mailbox.. |
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| 17:17.23 | tuxick | #7 0xb7e74380 in KMail::ImapJob::slotGetNextMessage () from /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkmailprivate.so |
| 17:17.26 | tuxick | once again :) |
| 17:17.34 | tuxick | pretty much daily |
| 17:18.02 | markc | bxnp-work: I'm just using a special folder in my regular account.. just deleted one calendar item and it was removed |
| 17:18.21 | sredna | Nebukadneza: It will, I used it a lot in some periods. After crashes, you get a list of crashed sessions to restore from |
| 17:18.50 | bxnp-work | i dont understand markc |
| 17:18.51 | Nebukadneza | sredna: when i accidentially hit ctrl-Q when having some tabs open i cannot restore anything |
| 17:18.54 | Nebukadneza | just "real" crashes |
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| 17:19.40 | sredna | Nebukadneza: Konqueror will ask you if you want to close if more tabs are open. And your history is there to restore from |
| 17:19.50 | markc | bxnp-work: I just added and removed an item from my kontact calendar using an imap resource and it worked... however, I did get some warning about perms, but it got saved anyway |
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| 17:20.10 | SimAtWork | you can get rid of that annoying warning though |
| 17:20.38 | markc | bxnp-work: have you checked RMB onyour imap folder, Properties -> Access Control |
| 17:20.58 | markc | SimAtWork: any clues how ? |
| 17:21.19 | bxnp-work | ehm rmb?? in wich app do i have to do that |
| 17:21.25 | bxnp-work | in korganizer |
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| 17:21.47 | markc | bxnp-work: no, in kmail, on the folder you are using as the resource to save the items into |
| 17:22.07 | bxnp-work | let me check |
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| 17:24.20 | sredna | Hi teatime :) |
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| 17:24.25 | sredna | How are you doing? |
| 17:24.28 | bxnp-work | markc: i put the acces controll to all |
| 17:24.38 | bxnp-work | however i still et that message |
| 17:24.40 | teatime | hey sredna :) |
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| 17:24.43 | teatime | sredna: cold! ;) |
| 17:25.29 | sredna | Here too, you should have seen the faces of the kids today, when it started to snow outside -- sheer happiness :-) |
| 17:26.03 | teatime | :) |
| 17:26.05 | SimAtWork | markc: when it asks say "Don't ask me again" and click ok |
| 17:26.37 | markc | bxnp-work: does that make a difference ? ... I just saved a contact without any warnings |
| 17:26.53 | markc | SimAtWork: 'k, thanks, I'll try that next time I get one |
| 17:27.42 | bxnp-work | markc: it does not, cant save it |
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| 17:29.35 | Henkie- | what can be the problem when one screen doesnt have any window-decoration anymore? so nothing is selectable on that screen |
| 17:30.03 | SimAtWork | did you set it as borderless? |
| 17:30.05 | SimAtWork | hit alt-f3 |
| 17:30.15 | Henkie- | only thing that helps is renaming the .kde/ dir |
| 17:30.26 | Henkie- | doesnt help, screen-0 receives that command |
| 17:30.38 | Henkie- | instead of the secundary screen |
| 17:30.45 | LiquidNerd | Henkie-: kwin crashed? |
| 17:31.01 | SimAtWork | Henkie-: i never even heard of such a thing |
| 17:31.11 | SimAtWork | you should tar up your old .kde |
| 17:31.19 | Henkie- | LiquidNerd, no, i dont think so, restarting KDE didnt help |
| 17:31.37 | LiquidNerd | well then |
| 17:32.03 | Henkie- | SimAtWork, yes, i already made a backup, but i'm afraid it will happen again. None of the rc-files seemed to carry that setting |
| 17:32.19 | SimAtWork | well, i've never ever seen it |
| 17:32.22 | SimAtWork | it must be rather rare |
| 17:32.28 | SimAtWork | what version of kde are you on? |
| 17:32.41 | Henkie- | 3.5.5 in a gentoo-distro |
| 17:33.22 | Henkie- | are all the settingfiles for the secundary screen in a *screen-1-rc format? |
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| 17:34.45 | LiquidNerd | interesting.. I can't unmark myself from away |
| 17:35.05 | SimAtWork | you must not be back yet |
| 17:35.11 | LiquidNerd | obviously |
| 17:35.33 | LiquidNerd | but typing /away just sets me as away |
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| 17:37.42 | LiquidNerd | interesting.. /unaway... |
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| 17:39.45 | SimAtWork | does anyone find that using composite really causes things to act up after a while? |
| 17:39.52 | SimAtWork | or is it just cause i'm 64bit? |
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| 17:44.23 | LiquidNerd | SimAtWork: yeah... It looks pretty but I stopped using it because it's not ready yet |
| 17:44.46 | SimAtWork | i wonder if it's kwin |
| 17:44.53 | SimAtWork | cause beryl works great on the sabayon box |
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| 17:46.14 | guest1200 | can you tell me where i could find anime? |
| 17:46.31 | SimAtWork | guest1200: www.btjunkie.com |
| 17:47.22 | guest1200 | thx man |
| 17:47.39 | SimAtWork | np |
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| 17:47.50 | Dr_willis | :) |
| 17:47.54 | guest1200 | cya |
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| 17:48.57 | sredna | Lol |
| 17:49.53 | SimAtWork | i was thinking he'd come back asking what the word for anime porn is |
| 17:50.15 | Dr_willis | :) |
| 17:50.28 | Dr_willis | we all know that all anime is porn! ;) |
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| 17:51.24 | SimAtWork | lol |
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| 18:01.35 | gourdin | whats is the status of 3.5.6 ? |
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| 18:02.01 | Przemcio78 | gourdin, some distros have it already |
| 18:02.14 | gourdin | Przemcio78: ? ;) |
| 18:02.16 | gourdin | ubuntu ? |
| 18:02.49 | Przemcio78 | arch linux |
| 18:02.58 | gourdin | :( |
| 18:02.59 | Przemcio78 | ubuntu should have testing version |
| 18:03.08 | gourdin | I'm searching =) |
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| 18:03.20 | Przemcio78 | kubuntu.org/packages, check out there |
| 18:03.38 | gourdin | thx |
| 18:04.16 | Przemcio78 | ur welcome :) |
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| 18:08.23 | eeos | hi there. is there an application to capture your display in kde (like istanbul in gtk / gnome)? |
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| 18:09.18 | punto | hi.. what's the name of that kde paint clone? |
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| 18:09.28 | Przemcio78 | kpaint |
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| 18:10.29 | punto | does it have another name? doesn't exist with that name on debian |
| 18:11.07 | Przemcio78 | maybe kdegraphics-kpaint? |
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| 18:11.54 | punto | there's a kolourpaint, I think that's it |
| 18:12.52 | Sho_ | Przemcio78: KPaint is very old, and was replaced by the much better Kolourpaint in KDE 3.3 or 3.4 |
| 18:12.52 | Przemcio78 | probably you're right |
| 18:13.01 | Sho_ | Przemcio78: Presumably Debian stable still has KPaint due to KDE 3.2 |
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| 18:13.43 | Przemcio78 | it just proves how rarely i use kde :/ |
| 18:13.50 | smileaf | Dr_willis, SimAtWork: he was asking in #anime a little while ago how to install kde.. lol |
| 18:14.11 | Dr_willis | :) |
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| 18:14.27 | Dr_willis | think he got the channels backwards? ya point him to a torrent site to warez kde? |
| 18:14.31 | smileaf | just a little backwards I think |
| 18:14.45 | tafsen | When I try to mount a cdrom with Konqueror, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/325888 |
| 18:14.52 | Przemcio78 | in my distro there's the newest version of kde and this paint is in kdegraphics package |
| 18:14.54 | smileaf | [11:43:52] <guest3644> how do i install kde? |
| 18:14.55 | SimAtWork | smileaf: hhaha |
| 18:15.20 | SimAtWork | a new dimension of dyslexia |
| 18:15.29 | smileaf | LMAO |
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| 18:16.47 | eeos | hi there. is there an application to capture your display in kde (like istanbul in gtk / gnome)? |
| 18:16.53 | SimAtWork | yes |
| 18:16.55 | SimAtWork | press print screen |
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| 18:17.39 | eeos | SimAtWork be serious! :P or you will end up in hell trying to prepare a traiing video using print screen .... |
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| 18:17.57 | smileaf | there is also ksnapshot. |
| 18:18.02 | SimAtWork | eeos: oh, you want to capture video? |
| 18:18.05 | SimAtWork | eeos: xvidcap |
| 18:18.12 | SimAtWork | it's not kde specific |
| 18:18.14 | SimAtWork | but it works great |
| 18:18.28 | LiquidNerd | agreed.. but you need to make sure you specify a framerate |
| 18:18.41 | eeos | SimAtWork yes I am testing it, but I was hoping to get a faboulous kde application :( |
| 18:19.03 | eeos | also xvidcap does not do audio, so you have to regiser the audio track afterward :P |
| 18:19.42 | SimAtWork | hrm |
| 18:19.49 | SimAtWork | what a piece of crap |
| 18:19.57 | SimAtWork | can't you use istanbul? |
| 18:20.05 | SimAtWork | i've enver even heard of it before, i'm gonna try and emerge it and see |
| 18:20.58 | SimAtWork | i was abotu to emerge it |
| 18:21.03 | SimAtWork | but it's unstable in ~amd64 |
| 18:21.09 | eeos | SimAtWork istanbul I Not Kde |
| 18:21.32 | eeos | SimAtWork it looks a bit out of place on the desktop :( |
| 18:21.48 | SimAtWork | eeos: i know, but it works :) |
| 18:22.08 | eeos | SimAtWork it does not register the audio on my laptop, strange |
| 18:22.38 | eeos | SimAtWork yes, I will end up using istanbul |
| 18:23.13 | eeos | SimAtWork very rough appliction, you cannot define frame rate or anything. anyway, better than nothing. |
| 18:24.03 | SimAtWork | why not use xvidcap then |
| 18:24.03 | SimAtWork | if neither register the audio |
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| 18:24.40 | eeos | SimAtWork you are indeed right! |
| 18:28.35 | eeos | SimAtWork what about ScreenKast |
| 18:28.57 | Apocryphe | Uptime: 6 hours and 6 minutes |
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| 18:29.06 | Apocryphe | ooops |
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| 18:31.49 | eeos | ok thanks to everbody have a nice evening! |
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| 18:32.29 | SimAtWork | never used screen cast |
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| 18:34.44 | tafsen | what groups does your user need to be a member of to use the automounter in KDE? |
| 18:34.52 | Renze | plugdev |
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| 18:35.02 | Renze | cdrom too, perhaps |
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| 18:36.05 | tafsen | Renze, I don't have a group called plugdev |
| 18:36.18 | Renze | must vary from distro to distro then |
| 18:37.27 | Renze | check the ownership/permissions on the device nodes to find out |
| 18:38.47 | tafsen | Renze, how do I do that? |
| 18:38.57 | Renze | ls -l /dev/whatever |
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| 18:40.19 | tafsen | ls -l /dev/cdrom |
| 18:40.19 | tafsen | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 23 09:47 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/cd/cdrom-hdc |
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| 18:40.35 | Renze | not the symlinks, the actual device nodes |
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| 18:42.03 | Renze | anywho, I need to try and get more sleep... |
| 18:42.10 | tafsen | ok |
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| 18:45.15 | RedShift | hi all |
| 18:45.24 | RedShift | I have two computers both equipped with KDE |
| 18:45.45 | RedShift | with kopete, on the first computer I get a small popup asking me to ignore or accept the conversation |
| 18:46.01 | RedShift | where can I configure that? on the second computer the kopete icon just animates |
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| 18:53.29 | reallove | hello,is it possible to move the taskbar (with the running applications) at the top ,and the Application start icons to remain at the bottom ? |
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| 18:54.22 | tafsen | reallove, If I understand what you mean: yes |
| 18:54.46 | reallove | well,if you understood well,how can I separate them ?:) |
| 18:54.54 | reallove | I can't manage to do it |
| 18:55.09 | tafsen | right click on your panel and chose add another panel |
| 18:55.25 | tafsen | or add new panel |
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| 18:55.56 | tafsen | and simply choose external taskbar |
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| 18:56.23 | reallove | mmmm,interesting,it's created,now to see how can I move it |
| 18:56.30 | johnn | hello, is it possible to get a folder thumbnail for kio smb folders? "preview" for smb is enabled in konqueror settings and normal files are shown but folders with ".directory" just show up with the regular folder icon |
| 18:56.54 | tafsen | reallove, just press it with you mouse and drag it |
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| 18:57.02 | reallove | got it |
| 18:57.11 | reallove | thanks a lot tafsen ! |
| 18:57.17 | tafsen | reallove, np <( |
| 18:57.19 | tafsen | :) |
| 18:58.47 | Endler | Does anyone know of any program that can display AOL .art files? |
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| 19:03.07 | Alumin_ | is it possible to, hmm, how to phrase this...to hook things into the KDE/kdm shutdown procedure |
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| 19:03.34 | Alumin_ | in this particular instance I'm looking to replicate MS Windows' feature where you can "install updates and shut down" |
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| 19:03.42 | Tonren | How do I set my default browser to Firefox instead of Konqueror? |
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| 19:04.12 | Przemcio78 | Tonren: it's impossible |
| 19:04.12 | pinotree | kde control center -> kde components -> component chooser -> web browser |
| 19:04.39 | pinotree | Przemcio78: sssh |
| 19:04.44 | Alumin_ | Przemcio78: I've come to discover that there's very little that's impossible with KDE :p |
| 19:05.06 | Tonren | Przemcio78: I would've been pretty chagrined if it were impossible. With such an emphasis on homogeneous, central-controlled use, it would be awfully surprising. |
| 19:05.24 | pinotree | Tonren: ^^^ |
| 19:05.34 | Tonren | lol, we kind of jumped on him, didn't we. |
| 19:05.59 | Przemcio78 | i don't know why but even bitorrent opens help in konqueror, even if it's not run in kde |
| 19:06.22 | Przemcio78 | bittorent isn't even qt app |
| 19:06.30 | pinotree | xdg-utils |
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| 19:06.38 | Alumin_ | maybe it's running sensible-browser or www-browser or some other alias |
| 19:06.43 | Alumin_ | which is a symlink to konqueror |
| 19:06.44 | Tonren | Now hang on, this is kind of obnoxious. I only have two Web Browser choices: "Intelligent" opening based on the URL's extension, or one browser for everything? |
| 19:06.45 | pinotree | kde can NOT control non-kde apps |
| 19:06.58 | Tonren | Why can't I have "intelligent" opening and an ALTERNATE browser? That's a little silly. |
| 19:07.02 | pinotree | Tonren: ???? |
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| 19:07.16 | Tonren | pinotree: I don't have Component Chooser. I have KDE Components - Default Applications. |
| 19:07.27 | pinotree | gentoo? |
| 19:07.32 | Przemcio78 | Alumin_, how can I change this alias |
| 19:07.34 | Przemcio78 | ? |
| 19:07.38 | Tonren | Ubuntu 6.10 |
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| 19:07.50 | Alumin_ | Przemcio78: well, _if_ it's an alias, that would depend on the distro |
| 19:08.07 | Alumin_ | Debian uses update-alternatives, I'd assume it's children do as well |
| 19:08.13 | pinotree | Tonren: aaaah - then alt+f2, kcontrol |
| 19:08.18 | Tonren | pinotree: http://inspiranity.com/kcontrol.jpg |
| 19:08.39 | Przemcio78 | after uninstalling konqueror bittorent doesn't open help anymore |
| 19:08.48 | Tonren | pinotree: With Alt + F2, Kcontrol I get the same thing. Default Apps |
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| 19:09.12 | pinotree | Tonren: then it's that one (sucky ubuntu that renamed that) |
| 19:09.19 | Alumin_ | what's the launcher between Amarok and Akregator? :) |
| 19:09.45 | Tonren | pinotree: I'm trying to change the file associations from Konq to Firefox, maybe that's smoother |
| 19:10.05 | pinotree | ? |
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| 19:10.16 | pinotree | do the cange in that kcontrol section |
| 19:10.24 | Przemcio78 | did anyone of you started using linux with kubuntu? |
| 19:10.55 | Tonren | pinotree: Well, as you can see in the screenshot, if I changed the browser option *there*, it would no longer open URLs in the program that matched their extension. Everything would be opened in Firefox |
| 19:10.56 | Alumin_ | started, meaning first install? |
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| 19:11.15 | Tonren | pinotree: But I think if I change the File Association instead, it'll keep the "smart opening" behavior while using FIrefox instead of Konq |
| 19:11.52 | pinotree | if you do that, you will change the behaviour also for local files |
| 19:12.05 | Tonren | pinotree: That's fine... I want to view all HTML files in Firefox |
| 19:12.32 | Przemcio78 | actually, did anyone of you start* |
| 19:12.41 | Przemcio78 | sorry about my English |
| 19:12.48 | pinotree | are you sure that the kcontrol module don't change the browser _only_ for web pages? |
| 19:12.56 | Przemcio78 | yes i mean the first distro |
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| 19:13.17 | Tonren | pinotree: I swear, dude. Just look at the screenshot I posted before. |
| 19:13.34 | Tonren | pinotree: There are clearly two options in KDE Components -> Default Applications. Smart opening, or everything-in-a-browser. |
| 19:13.44 | Alumin_ | hmm...not me, I installed Kubuntu for the first time a while back (5.10) to try KDE |
| 19:13.46 | Tonren | pinotree: In KDE Components -> File Associations, I can change the association for JUST websites. |
| 19:13.59 | Alumin_ | but it definitely wasn't my first GNU/Linux install |
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| 19:14.49 | pinotree | as you wish |
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| 19:15.27 | Tonren | Just sayin'. |
| 19:15.39 | SimAtWork | is it possible in konqueror to book mark all your open tabs? |
| 19:16.14 | SimAtWork | oh |
| 19:16.17 | SimAtWork | lol, never mind |
| 19:16.21 | SimAtWork | ther is :) |
| 19:16.21 | pinotree | bookmarks -> create a bookmark folder for the tabs |
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| 19:16.34 | SimAtWork | for some reason i glossed over it 20 times |
| 19:16.38 | SimAtWork | then 2 seconds after i asked i noticed it |
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| 19:20.02 | tafsen | Im getting this error when Im trying to mount my cdrom |
| 19:20.11 | Przemcio78 | most *buntu users use gnome |
| 19:20.59 | Lexus^ | do i gain much if i run amarok svn instead of 1.4.4? |
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| 19:21.46 | tafsen | how can I fix it? |
| 19:21.51 | Przemcio78 | i wonder which de i would use today if i started with *buntu |
| 19:22.06 | pinotree | Lexus^: --> #amarok |
| 19:22.16 | Lexus^ | pinotree: :) |
| 19:22.17 | Lexus^ | kej |
| 19:23.20 | tafsen | Do you have an idea Lexus? |
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| 19:26.06 | Tonren | Przemcio78: I suggest Kubuntu to new users |
| 19:26.26 | Przemcio78 | Tonren, me too |
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| 19:33.37 | _root | dividends ? how is tax of dividend in your country ? |
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| 19:35.02 | Lars_G | Greetings. |
| 19:35.23 | Lars_G | Question, is there any way I can change more colors than the basic colors on the system settings? |
| 19:35.52 | Lars_G | for example I want to set text and background colors for select lists, and other elements that ain't taking to the new colors I set in general background. |
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| 19:43.01 | fioreblu | hi ^^ |
| 19:43.12 | fioreblu | it is an english chan? |
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| 19:43.50 | Theory | conversation in here tends to be in english, yes |
| 19:44.13 | fioreblu | ok thx a lot ^^ |
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| 19:46.34 | James-S | Heh |
| 19:46.45 | James-S | Theory: Sometimes we speak in Bra-Ket notation ;-) |
| 19:46.59 | linuxguy | hi there, I just set the screen saver, but every time it just brings up a blank black screen instead of what I chose, and I can run the screen saver by clicking test in the control center, any idea what went wrong? |
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| 20:00.16 | Alumin_ | linuxguy: maybe it's still loading the screensaver? How long do you let it sit? |
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| 20:00.38 | Alumin_ | also, are you sure it's KDE's screensaver that's activating? |
| 20:00.40 | Lars_G | shall i try again? (asking) |
| 20:00.47 | Alumin_ | it probably is...but maybe check to see if xscreensaver is running |
| 20:01.15 | Alumin_ | Lars_G: can't hurt, I guess...I don't know the answer |
| 20:01.31 | Lars_G | not too many joinees. i'll wait |
| 20:02.53 | fioreblu | bye |
| 20:03.18 | linuxguy | Alumin_: for quite a while, I didn't install any other screensaver, so I suppose those are KDE's |
| 20:03.48 | Alumin_ | linuxguy: I'm not talking about the modules, I mean the screensaver app itself |
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| 20:04.00 | Alumin_ | do you get anything for "ps auxwww | grep xscreensaver"? |
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| 20:04.45 | linuxguy | Alumin_: yes |
| 20:05.05 | Alumin_ | linuxguy: so xscreensaver is running? |
| 20:05.23 | Lexus^ | is there a good ftp client for kde? kftpgrabber just have a fuzzy interface |
| 20:05.49 | linuxguy | Alumin_: so what am I to do? choose other screensaver? |
| 20:05.55 | Lexus^ | and it crashed as soon as i try to start my queue |
| 20:06.00 | Alumin_ | linuxguy: if xscreensaver is running, kill it |
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| 20:06.20 | Alumin_ | Lexus^: I used to use gftp and liked it...just plain GTK, not KDE though |
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| 20:07.05 | Lexus^ | ill give it a try then, someone should make a descent ftp client :) |
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| 20:07.06 | Lexus^ | *emerging* |
| 20:07.06 | linuxguy | Alumin: do I have to do it every time, how could I set it off? When I use gnome, it could load the screensaver |
| 20:07.06 | Alumin_ | xscreensaver-command -exit |
| 20:07.07 | Alumin_ | hmm |
| 20:07.17 | Alumin_ | put that in your KDE autostart I guess? |
| 20:07.44 | Alumin_ | Lexus^: gftp _is_ a decent FTP client :p |
| 20:07.52 | Alumin_ | I also like lftp, but that's console |
| 20:07.59 | Lexus^ | Alumin_: yeah, but a kde one |
| 20:08.13 | Alumin_ | then there's kget, but that's not an ftp client in the sense of gftp |
| 20:08.21 | Alumin_ | that's just a download manager |
| 20:08.43 | Lexus^ | no, kbear looked okey but havent been updated since 2003(?) |
| 20:08.51 | Lexus^ | and it didnt build on gcc 4.1 i think |
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| 20:11.38 | chaykin | hello |
| 20:13.03 | chaykin | how could I configure middlemouse click's behavior with konqueror? |
| 20:13.56 | SimAtWork | chaykin: control panel, peripherals, mouse |
| 20:14.25 | chaykin | currently it pastes the url from clipboard to konqueror, which opens the link |
| 20:14.26 | SimAtWork | although |
| 20:14.29 | SimAtWork | i think i'm wrong |
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| 20:14.33 | SimAtWork | there isn't anything you can do to it |
| 20:14.49 | SimAtWork | the middle click paste is pretty well standard |
| 20:14.52 | chaykin | d'oh |
| 20:14.54 | logixoul_ | chaykin: settings->configure konqueror->web behavior, iirc |
| 20:15.43 | chaykin | nothing that would help, there |
| 20:15.49 | chaykin | but I think I can live with it |
| 20:15.56 | logixoul | wait |
| 20:16.04 | chaykin | I just recently changed from FF to konqueror :) |
| 20:16.19 | logixoul | chaykin: the option is there |
| 20:16.26 | chaykin | I accidentally unchecked [×] Ignore selection in klipper, it made my life a hell :) |
| 20:16.36 | logixoul | web behavior->mouse behavior->middle click opens url in selection |
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| 20:18.00 | logixoul | chaykin: does that help? |
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| 20:19.16 | chaykin | yes, that's enabled. not what I'm looking for anyway |
| 20:19.16 | chaykin | I just wanted to disable pasting the url from clipboard completely :) |
| 20:19.17 | chaykin | sure |
| 20:19.19 | chaykin | it's been always enabled |
| 20:19.25 | chaykin | but as I said, I'll live with it |
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| 20:20.55 | logixoul | oh, ok |
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| 20:25.12 | Lexus^ | Alumin_: gftp was great, especially when you compare to kftpgrabber :) |
| 20:25.42 | logixoul | hm, why not just use konq? |
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| 20:27.00 | niac | hi |
| 20:27.23 | Lexus^ | logixoul: cause it doesnt suppoert queing |
| 20:27.28 | Lexus^ | i think :) |
| 20:27.46 | Lexus^ | im connected to a ftp server that just allows one connection from the ip |
| 20:27.54 | devilsadvocate | i'm having problems running gtk-apps on kubuntu - non of the text shows up on the menus, buttons, etc. can anyone tell me how to fix this? |
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| 20:28.11 | thiago | devilsadvocate: ask a GTK channel, please |
| 20:28.21 | thiago | but you probably need fonts or change the colour settings |
| 20:28.31 | logixoul | Lexus^: ah, had that problem too. gotta try kftpgrabber :) |
| 20:28.33 | devilsadvocate | thanks thiago |
| 20:29.05 | Lexus^ | logixoul: go for gftp instead :P |
| 20:29.34 | logixoul | i doubt i'll settle for a gtk app but thanks for the thought :P |
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| 20:30.21 | devilsadvocate | Lexus^, doesnt konqueror do one file at a time anyway? |
| 20:30.34 | niac | I've a problem with vim, when run in an xterm: the backspace key returns '^?'. Any idea? or do you know where I can get help? |
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| 20:32.19 | Lexus^ | devilsadvocate: yeah, if you select 5 files for an example, then it start transfering them immedtly. |
| 20:32.19 | logixoul | niac, xterm isn't a kde app, ask at #xorg i guess |
| 20:32.20 | Lexus^ | and that isnt so good if you want something from another folder |
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| 20:32.48 | devilsadvocate | no offence logixoul , but isnt kde a desktop environmet that is designed to run apps other that k* apps? |
| 20:33.14 | logixoul | devilsadvocate: yeah, but support for non-kapps isn't for this channel ;) |
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| 20:33.33 | logixoul | devilsadvocate: else we should maybe support MS Excel cause it runs in wine ;) |
| 20:34.09 | logixoul | devilsadvocate: now, if the problem only occurs when running xterm under kde, that's another matter altogether :) |
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| 20:34.51 | devilsadvocate | i agree there must be a balance logixoul , but that doesnt mean you restrict yourself only to kde apps. One of the other kde users here might have faced the same problem and may be able to help out |
| 20:35.06 | devilsadvocate | hmm |
| 20:35.11 | thiago | true, but you also get a higher probability of being helped there |
| 20:35.16 | logixoul | exactly |
| 20:36.23 | SimAtWork | what is the problem? |
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| 20:36.45 | logixoul | um what problem? |
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| 20:37.16 | SimAtWork | devils |
| 20:37.16 | logixoul | [8:38] <niac> I've a problem with vim, when run in an xterm: the backspace key returns '^?'. Any idea? or do you know where I can get help? |
| 20:37.16 | SimAtWork | i think |
| 20:37.33 | thiago | devilsadvocate: btw, stty |
| 20:38.13 | logixoul | lol, acrofest :) |
| 20:38.43 | thiago | stty isn't an acronym |
| 20:38.48 | thiago | it's the name of the program |
| 20:38.55 | devilsadvocate | stty? |
| 20:38.59 | devilsadvocate | hmm |
| 20:39.03 | Alumin_ | actually it is an acronym :) |
| 20:39.08 | devilsadvocate | s that a terminal? |
| 20:39.10 | thiago | "set teletype"? |
| 20:39.13 | Alumin_ | it's just also the name of the program :P |
| 20:39.22 | logixoul | yep, Set Teletype |
| 20:39.37 | thiago | but he doesn't need to know that |
| 20:39.55 | logixoul | hm, right |
| 20:39.56 | devilsadvocate | hmm.. what does that do? |
| 20:40.05 | logixoul | http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?stty |
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| 20:41.19 | SimAtWork | so no problems? |
| 20:41.20 | SimAtWork | that's great |
| 20:42.11 | devilsadvocate | ive been having some gtk problems. im looking into possible missing fonts |
| 20:42.28 | devilsadvocate | thanks anyway SimAtWork |
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| 20:43.02 | SimAtWork | what distro? |
| 20:43.07 | devilsadvocate | kubuntu |
| 20:43.18 | SimAtWork | did you recently update? |
| 20:43.24 | devilsadvocate | missing text in menus and buttons in _some_ apps |
| 20:43.30 | SimAtWork | sometimes it helps to do a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:43.34 | devilsadvocate | a few days ago |
| 20:43.40 | devilsadvocate | will try |
| 20:43.43 | SimAtWork | check to see if there is more to update |
| 20:43.59 | SimAtWork | sometimes it doesn't do everything at once. |
| 20:44.08 | devilsadvocate | hmm... ok |
| 20:44.37 | davascript_work | prob has to do with dependencies |
| 20:45.17 | devilsadvocate | i guessed as much, but wasnt able to figure out which dependancy. was hoping someone had a similar problem :P |
| 20:45.30 | devilsadvocate | i'll figure it out in time. no worrys |
| 20:45.58 | davascript_work | do another system wide update and maybe #kubuntu |
| 20:46.32 | davascript_work | make sure that all the kde packages installed correctly |
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| 20:51.05 | verve | alright, here's one for you guys, 'cause i can't find it: is there a way to get KDE Crypto (kcmshell crypto or Security & Privacy -> Crypto in KControl) to accept expired SSL certificates? |
| 20:51.12 | McEnroe | what ebuilds do i need (gentoo) to compile decibel? it says something about qttapioca but i duuno which |
| 20:51.24 | verve | ignore that they're expired, etc |
| 20:52.20 | Sven | Could anyone tell me why the "Open URL"-feature of Gaim, does not work with KDE? Or how I can fix it? |
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| 20:53.01 | logixoul | Sven: look through Gaim's settings for a "External browser command" option and set it to konqueror (or your browser) |
| 20:53.11 | lerneaen_hydra | random end-user question: is there a simple way to make a all the windows on one monitor (on a multi-head layout) automatically be visible on all virtual desktops? |
| 20:53.49 | Sven | well, I didn't change anything about that command, since switching from gnome to KDE and am still using FF, logixoul |
| 20:54.09 | Sven | mmh.. |
| 20:54.20 | logixoul | hm strange |
| 20:54.30 | logixoul | does gaim output errors on the terminal? |
| 20:54.40 | logixoul | start it from konsole to see. |
| 20:54.49 | devilsadvocate | logixoul, if you run it from the terminal it does sometimes |
| 20:55.32 | devilsadvocate | Sven, for firefox i believe the command would be "firefox %s" |
| 20:55.48 | logixoul | devilsadvocate: right, but i mean, does his gaim output errors on clicking links. |
| 20:56.00 | Sven | logixoul: I just fixed it by just setting it to some crap and reseting it to firefox.. |
| 20:56.04 | Sven | thanks |
| 20:56.13 | logixoul | np |
| 20:56.13 | Sven | still strange |
| 20:56.34 | logixoul | yeah |
| 20:56.47 | logixoul | kde couldn't've overwritten gaim config o.O |
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| 20:58.51 | Sven | well, nvm since it works now ;) |
| 20:59.08 | logixoul | aha ;) |
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| 20:59.48 | linuxguy | is it possible to set something like when I switch the desktop it will have the name of the desktop shown for a second or two like in Window maker? just browsed around kcontrol and couldn't find it ... |
| 20:59.48 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
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| 21:01.06 | thiago | today was the target |
| 21:01.16 | Dhraakellian | linuxguy: it shows up with ctrl+tab |
| 21:01.19 | logixoul | linuxguy: kcontrol->desktop->window behavior->popup desktop name on desktop switch |
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| 21:01.58 | logixoul | linuxguy: admittedly not easy to find |
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| 21:04.08 | linuxguy | logixoul: thx, that's exactly what I wanted, next time seems like I have to go through every option before asking :) |
| 21:04.16 | logixoul | yeah :) |
| 21:04.33 | Dhraakellian | there is a search/filter |
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| 21:05.09 | logixoul | Dhraakellian: alas, since the option is not in kcmdesktop, searching for desktop doesn't lead you to it. |
| 21:05.42 | linuxguy | yeah ... |
| 21:06.06 | Dhraakellian | logixoul: yeah, but it's a good first step before asking |
| 21:06.07 | linuxguy | anyway, search could help most of the time |
| 21:06.13 | logixoul | Dhraakellian: sure |
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| 21:13.44 | vbgunz | Anyone know if it is possible to import revelation passwords into KDEs wallet manager? |
| 21:14.16 | thiago | what are revelation passwords? |
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| 21:15.21 | vbgunz | thiago: revelation is a Gnome password organizer |
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| 21:16.57 | BlackBsd | is anyone able to get the flash to work on the page http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/heroes.shtml |
| 21:17.18 | BlackBsd | i wonder if its is testing for nonwindows browsers or something.. |
| 21:17.34 | thiago | vbgunz: what formats does it export to? |
| 21:17.45 | thiago | BlackBsd: it's testing if you're in the US |
| 21:17.49 | vbgunz | thiago: I'll check |
| 21:18.19 | vbgunz | thiago: a bunch. XML is one of them |
| 21:18.50 | thiago | kwallet can import XML |
| 21:19.06 | thiago | but you will probably need to transform the XML into something KWallet can understand |
| 21:19.15 | vbgunz | ok! what is the cli name for the wallet manager? |
| 21:19.23 | logixoul | kwalletmanager |
| 21:19.25 | BlackBsd | ok i am in th es |
| 21:19.27 | BlackBsd | US |
| 21:19.29 | vbgunz | ahh |
| 21:19.35 | vbgunz | I kept trying walletmanager :) |
| 21:19.35 | BlackBsd | i must not have flash set up right. |
| 21:19.37 | vbgunz | thanks! |
| 21:19.41 | BlackBsd | but it works with everything else |
| 21:19.46 | BlackBsd | flash that is |
| 21:20.20 | BlackBsd | Thiago, does it work for you? |
| 21:20.44 | thiago | BlackBsd: I'm not in the US |
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| 21:23.40 | vbgunz | thiago: kwallet is saying, the XML does not contain a wallet :( |
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| 21:23.57 | thiago | vbgunz: did you convert the XML to KWallet's XML? |
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| 21:24.16 | vbgunz | no, I do not know how to do that. From kwallet, I just tried to import the XML into a new wallet |
| 21:24.35 | casanova- | by the way a newb question about SCP: is it so that i can use fish://user.pass@host for SCP protocol in konqueror? |
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| 21:25.04 | garryb | casanova:yes that works |
| 21:25.05 | casanova- | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=168813 <--- this boardroom says so |
| 21:25.10 | casanova- | ok thanks |
| 21:25.29 | casanova- | just opened an SCP server cos my ISP has these ... policies |
| 21:25.42 | casanova- | (i rent from there) |
| 21:25.53 | thiago | vbgunz: you have to convert first, using xsltproc and your own XSL-T sheet |
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| 21:26.03 | vbgunz | :O |
| 21:26.49 | deitarion | Does Konqueror allow wildcard-based inclusion like *.deviantart.com on JavaScript after disabling it globally? (For those who know the NoScript extension for Firefox, that's what I'm going for) |
| 21:26.49 | vbgunz | thiago: you completely lost me ... I feel like a Ron Jeremy victim :( |
| 21:27.51 | thiago | vbgunz: I said: you need to convert the file |
| 21:28.02 | thiago | vbgunz: I don't know of any pre-defined XSL-T files to do that |
| 21:28.08 | thiago | vbgunz: so, you need to write your own. Sorry. |
| 21:28.26 | vbgunz | heh. No problem I suppose :) |
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| 21:29.55 | casanova- | hmh |
| 21:29.57 | garotosopa | I've just upgraded kde from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5 and there's no more "panels" in KControl. what could have happened? (debian etch) |
| 21:30.07 | casanova- | Linux needs alot of minor development |
| 21:30.22 | casanova- | it needs LUGs |
| 21:30.27 | casanova- | local LUGs |
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| 21:35.45 | Maxi` | hi |
| 21:36.36 | Maxi` | When I need to set up my computer from new, maybe with a different distro than the one I use right now, can I save the data which I saved in "kontact" ? I mean all saved E-Mails, all my contacts ((buddies)) and so on |
| 21:36.48 | logixoul | yes |
| 21:36.59 | Maxi` | logixoul, may I ask you how? |
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| 21:37.15 | logixoul | to copy over all kde settings and data just copy ~/.kde to the new machine |
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| 21:37.46 | Maxi` | logixoul, but I don't wanna transfer all the KDE settings |
| 21:37.51 | Maxi` | just the "kontact" ones |
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| 21:38.13 | logixoul | brb |
| 21:38.16 | Maxi` | kk |
| 21:38.29 | Sven | is there a "autostart" option for KDE? Like "Startup Programs" in Gnome? |
| 21:39.07 | logixoul | back |
| 21:39.12 | logixoul | Sven: yeah |
| 21:39.16 | devilsadvocate | Maxi`, look in .kde for kontact.. it will be in there |
| 21:39.27 | Maxi` | devilsadvocate, thx man |
| 21:39.28 | logixoul | Sven: anything under ~/.kde/Autostart starts on login |
| 21:39.58 | logixoul | Maxi`: however, kontact is just a shell for several apps - like korganizer, kmail, knotes, etc |
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| 21:40.10 | Maxi` | nope, in ".kde" is only |
| 21:40.10 | logixoul | Maxi`: each of those has separate folders |
| 21:40.12 | Maxi` | Autostart cache-tiger share socket-tiger tmp-tiger |
| 21:40.15 | Stalwart | i made my menubar totally black and can't revert it |
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| 21:40.38 | logixoul | Stalwart: do you remember how you did it? |
| 21:40.52 | logixoul | Maxi`: go into share/ |
| 21:41.15 | Maxi` | thx found it :)) |
| 21:41.16 | logixoul | Maxi`: then, generally, for settings look into config/ and for data (like email) look under apps/ |
| 21:41.23 | Stalwart | logixoul: i was trying out different kicker wallpapers, then removed file set as wpap |
| 21:41.24 | Maxi` | you made my life nice for today *g* |
| 21:41.28 | Maxi` | :) |
| 21:41.29 | Maxi` | thx |
| 21:41.29 | Stalwart | normal kicker panel switched to white bg, menubar panel became black |
| 21:41.33 | logixoul | Maxi`: this ain't a strict rule tho ;) np |
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| 21:41.49 | Stalwart | now i switch on/off wpap and menubar panel doesn't switch |
| 21:41.52 | logixoul | Sven: do you want a GUI for that? |
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| 21:43.34 | logixoul | Stalwart: wpap is the filename? |
| 21:44.08 | Stalwart | logixoul: no, i just call wallpapers wpaps =] |
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| 21:44.22 | BoppinREAD | windows is the best! eheheheh |
| 21:44.24 | logixoul | lol |
| 21:44.28 | Stalwart | where is configuration file located? |
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| 21:44.59 | logixoul | ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker/ and ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
| 21:45.01 | BoppinREAD | WINDOWS VISTA is great!!!! |
| 21:45.02 | logixoul | and several more places |
| 21:45.11 | Stalwart | BoppinREAD: kde will be ported to vista |
| 21:45.26 | BoppinREAD | yes! |
| 21:45.32 | SimAtWork | ij |
| 21:45.33 | SimAtWork | uh |
| 21:45.36 | SimAtWork | windows vista is crap |
| 21:45.39 | logixoul | it is? |
| 21:45.42 | SimAtWork | i've used it, and man. i hate it. |
| 21:45.52 | SimAtWork | but it's great that rdesktop 1.5 can crash it on a whim. |
| 21:45.57 | SimAtWork | BSOD every time! |
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| 21:46.37 | BoppinREAD | Windows and linux associated!! |
| 21:46.42 | logixoul | huh? |
| 21:46.54 | Stalwart | now it's fine |
| 21:46.58 | pinotree | BoppinREAD: ok, now stop spam |
| 21:47.07 | pinotree | calm down and stop trolling |
| 21:47.08 | logixoul | Stalwart: nice |
| 21:47.10 | BoppinREAD | bye bye |
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| 21:47.19 | logixoul | bye bye indeed |
| 21:47.21 | sredna | :o |
| 21:47.32 | pinotree | damn, a kick missed... |
| 21:47.57 | sredna | Your evil eyes was enough, pinotree ;) |
| 21:47.59 | Sven | logixoul: nah, a file is just great |
| 21:48.06 | pinotree | *evil grind* |
| 21:48.08 | pinotree | -d |
| 21:48.15 | Sven | thx |
| 21:48.19 | logixoul | *evil axe grind* |
| 21:48.33 | logixoul | Sven: np ;) |
| 21:49.28 | sredna | Good night * |
| 21:50.08 | Sven | ah, so I'll have to symlink all the files to that dir? |
| 21:50.36 | logixoul | Sven: either put symlinks to desired executables in this dir, or .desktop files. or both. |
| 21:50.58 | logixoul | Sven: or, of course, the files themselves ;) |
| 21:50.58 | Sven | how do .desktop files look like? |
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| 21:51.10 | logixoul | konq can create them for ya |
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| 21:51.26 | logixoul | edit->create new->link to application |
| 21:51.28 | logixoul | (iirc) |
| 21:52.05 | logixoul | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards/desktop-entry-spec |
| 21:52.21 | Sven | weee... Kinda complicated... |
| 21:52.36 | Sven | Gnome's session manager was nice ;) |
| 21:52.56 | logixoul | KDE's thirdparty GUI session managers are nice, and one of them will be in KDE 4 ;) |
| 21:53.08 | logixoul | s/session/autostart/ |
| 21:53.53 | logixoul | apt: buzz buzz nudge nudge, wake up |
| 21:53.55 | Sven | mmh.. any way to test those "links" without relogging? Can I just start them in cmdline? |
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| 21:54.07 | logixoul | just click them in konq ;) |
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| 21:55.02 | Sven | weee |
| 21:55.33 | logixoul | heh, you must be using irssi then :P |
| 21:56.42 | Sven | nah, Xchat.. ;) |
| 21:56.57 | Sven | but I never used any filemanagers since I am using Linux :) |
| 21:57.13 | logixoul | well, Xchat not leet enough. it actually lets you click on things. |
| 21:57.25 | logixoul | you didn't? that must hurt. |
| 21:57.45 | Sven | I am quite comfortable with it |
| 21:57.58 | logixoul | never mind my bad humor, i must be sleeping right now :P |
| 21:58.10 | logixoul | i tried that first, yep |
| 21:58.32 | logixoul | but couldn't quite wrap my brain around it |
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| 21:59.20 | logixoul | i guess people work differently, eh |
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| 22:00.52 | Sven | just got rid of devilspie, since kde can do that without it.. |
| 22:01.00 | Sven | kde is much nicer than gnome... |
| 22:01.23 | logixoul | what's devilspie? |
| 22:01.34 | logixoul | ah |
| 22:01.40 | logixoul | "find windows and perform actions on them" |
| 22:01.54 | Sven | yep.. |
| 22:02.01 | Sven | works with a crappy XML file :) |
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| 22:03.52 | SimAtWork | kde is great |
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| 22:04.06 | SimAtWork | and it performs fine even in low memory systems, regardless of what gnome people will tell you |
| 22:04.15 | SimAtWork | i got kde on my ps3 (only 256mb of ram) and it runs just fine! |
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| 22:09.28 | Sven | is there a way to do qiv --root image.jpg without using qiv, but with some KDE tool? |
| 22:10.21 | logixoul | you don't wanna use kdesktop? |
| 22:11.06 | Sven | well, it doesn't really work with conky |
| 22:11.35 | shadok | is there a better tool than dia to create diagrams ? |
| 22:11.54 | logixoul | shadok: not sure, but check kchart |
| 22:11.59 | shadok | thx |
| 22:12.12 | Sven | http://briancarper.net/2006/08/25/transparent-conky-in-kde-part-2/ @ logixoul |
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| 22:12.23 | wolsni | shadok: i think kivio would be a better shot |
| 22:12.38 | shadok | i'll try it too so :) |
| 22:12.46 | benJIman | kivio is good, it's just missing any decent stencils |
| 22:13.19 | logixoul | Sven: you could use one of the myriad superkaramba conky-like themes with kdesktop |
| 22:13.31 | Sven | now I am confused |
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| 22:13.53 | Sven | I am just trying to create some applink in .kde/Autostart to set the BG with qiv |
| 22:13.54 | shevy | whens 3.5.6 gonna hit public download/released? |
| 22:13.57 | Sven | maybe that will work |
| 22:14.16 | shadok | shevy: this week afaik but i must be wrong |
| 22:14.24 | shadok | *may ^^ |
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| 22:14.57 | logixoul | Sven: yes, and the reason you wanna call qiv is that Conky is incompatible with kdesktop. what i said that you can simply use an alternative to conky. |
| 22:15.18 | Sven | ah :) |
| 22:15.30 | Sven | But I like my conky so much |
| 22:15.39 | Sven | spend hours in configurating it ;) |
| 22:15.41 | logixoul | check this out http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=52038 |
| 22:15.47 | logixoul | ah well then |
| 22:16.28 | logixoul | i think one way to use a qiv-like kde tool is to combine kuickshow and xwinwrap |
| 22:16.49 | logixoul | or try krootimage |
| 22:17.27 | Sven | Well, I think I'll have a look at superkaramba |
| 22:18.08 | logixoul | kk |
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| 22:19.32 | logixoul | heh http://conky.sourceforge.net/aboutconky.html |
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| 22:19.40 | logixoul | i always thought it was a play on konqi =) |
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| 22:20.13 | adamwest | hey |
| 22:20.17 | logixoul | hey |
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| 22:22.28 | trumee | guys, any idea when 3.5.6 will be released? |
| 22:22.35 | trumee | is the kopete bug been fixed? |
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| 22:22.46 | logixoul | what kopete bug? |
| 22:22.51 | logixoul | (probably today) |
| 22:23.05 | Renze | trumee: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_5to3_5_6.php <-- check for yourself |
| 22:23.18 | Sven | nice, logixoul... do those superkaramba things start automatically on login? |
| 22:23.38 | logixoul | yep, and that's optional i think |
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| 22:24.20 | logixoul | lparry: hey |
| 22:24.50 | Sven | something about that GlassMonitor theme sucks: it displays my mount --bind directories as partition and there is no way to configure it ;) |
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| 22:25.36 | logixoul | Sven: well, check out the rest of the 27412897349 system monitor themes on kde-look.org ;) |
| 22:25.43 | Sven | yep.. just browsing ;) |
| 22:25.45 | lparry | Hello |
| 22:25.46 | logixoul | also you can report the bug |
| 22:26.13 | logixoul | lparry: remember, we talked about fixing up bugsnew.kde some months ago |
| 22:27.04 | lparry | Ah yes, I remember, sorry for not getting the chance to reply a few days ago |
| 22:27.13 | lparry | on IRC |
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| 22:28.02 | logixoul | hm anyway, as you might know already, this subsite is in SVN, so you can work on it. |
| 22:28.38 | lparry | ah yes, but I have no SVN account :( |
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| 22:29.06 | trumee | logixoul:this bug:http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140307 listed here http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html |
| 22:30.10 | adamwest | canllaith, hi |
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| 22:31.25 | adamwest | anyone knows a good 'dockbar' styled thing for kde? |
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| 22:33.25 | canllaith | hi |
| 22:33.35 | adamwest | remember me by any chance, canllaith? |
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| 22:39.43 | ravermeister | hello |
| 22:39.57 | ravermeister | i still have one problem and no idea how to fix it... |
| 22:40.22 | ravermeister | i made an update of kde from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5, and now when the loginscreen from kdm appears |
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| 22:41.03 | MrWGW | good afternoon |
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| 22:41.16 | lparry | logixoul, what shall we do then about bugsnew? |
| 22:41.16 | lparry | How would I get access to that particular area on the SVN? |
| 22:41.25 | ravermeister | and i type in my username and password |
| 22:41.29 | ravermeister | but nothing happens |
| 22:41.36 | ravermeister | until i restart x |
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| 22:41.47 | ravermeister | and type in my username and password again, then i can login. |
| 22:42.24 | ravermeister | i dont know how to fix it. |
| 22:42.57 | ravermeister | maybe somebody can post me his /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, then i can test if my config file is wrong... |
| 22:43.05 | ravermeister | im using kubuntu dapper |
| 22:43.48 | MrWGW | I don't suppose any of you could point me in the direction of a HowTo for creating KDE icons |
| 22:44.04 | MrWGW | I just need technical specs, I don't need instruction in terms of style/appearance, etc |
| 22:44.34 | Jucato | MrWGW: try http://www.kde-artists.org/views/guidelines |
| 22:44.52 | MrWGW | thank you Jucato |
| 22:44.57 | MrWGW | that should be perfect |
| 22:46.27 | adamwest | canllaith? |
| 22:46.34 | canllaith | what ? |
| 22:46.57 | Jucato | heh |
| 22:47.35 | adamwest | lol hi jucato |
| 22:47.40 | Jucato | hi :) |
| 22:47.44 | ravermeister | anybody here who would help me? |
| 22:47.57 | adamwest | i fell asleep yesterday and forgot to come and ask you about that article or smtng |
| 22:48.06 | canllaith | It's not up yet. I'm at work. |
| 22:48.13 | canllaith | and I need more screen >.< |
| 22:48.14 | ravermeister | hey jucato you talked to me some hours before right? |
| 22:48.15 | adamwest | oh ok then :) |
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| 22:48.21 | ravermeister | still havent an solution :( |
| 22:48.22 | Jucato | ravermeister: um nope |
| 22:48.28 | ravermeister | oh okay then sry |
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| 22:48.51 | Jucato | Sho_: are you still up? |
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| 22:48.54 | MrWGW | dang Jucato, that was useful, but it didn't tell me the file formats, etc |
| 22:49.04 | MrWGW | is a .svg acceptable? |
| 22:49.07 | logixoul | lparry: sorry man, x froze |
| 22:49.11 | MrWGW | and does it matter what the size is of the canvas? |
| 22:49.37 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: have you made any changes to kdmrc yourself? |
| 22:49.42 | lparry | that's okay, down to buisness :) |
| 22:49.44 | Jucato | MrWGW: hm... the standard file format for icons is PNG, afaik. and some SVGs |
| 22:49.44 | Alumin_ | or kdm.conf |
| 22:49.50 | logixoul | lparry: http://developernew.kde.org/Contribute/Get_a_SVN_Account |
| 22:50.02 | ravermeister | yes one |
| 22:50.07 | logixoul | lparry: http://developernew.kde.org/Contribute/First_Steps_with_your_KDE_SVN_Account |
| 22:50.10 | ravermeister | i found an article in the internet |
| 22:50.10 | canllaith | http://www.ac.nz/~jes/Screenshots/morepixelspls.png <--- someone want to donate me a 1920x1200 thinkpad? |
| 22:50.23 | ravermeister | which said that TerminateServer=true |
| 22:50.25 | lparry | thanks for that I'll read up on it |
| 22:50.25 | MrWGW | ok |
| 22:50.32 | ravermeister | should be in some sections of the kdmrc |
| 22:50.41 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: ok |
| 22:50.42 | ravermeister | and then i added this ones, |
| 22:50.46 | MrWGW | I just bought a new Thinkpad yesterday Canllaith :) |
| 22:50.50 | MrWGW | a Z61t |
| 22:50.50 | Alumin_ | one thing you might try |
| 22:50.56 | canllaith | a Z series with 1920x1200? :D |
| 22:50.58 | ravermeister | but it didnt made any changes |
| 22:51.00 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: nice |
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| 22:51.01 | MrWGW | not sure |
| 22:51.07 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: how's the hardware support |
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| 22:51.19 | MrWGW | I buy all my ThinkPads by calling a salesman at Lenovo that I like (James Elliot) |
| 22:51.25 | Alumin_ | does it have the ThinkLight? |
| 22:51.33 | MrWGW | Well ThinkPads are, AFAIK, known to have excellent Linux compatibility |
| 22:51.34 | MrWGW | yes |
| 22:51.37 | ravermeister | what can i try...? |
| 22:51.39 | MrWGW | it has the ThinkLight |
| 22:51.39 | Alumin_ | sweet |
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| 22:51.47 | MrWGW | I am a MAJOR IBM/Lenovo fanboy |
| 22:51.51 | canllaith | I have a T42p for work, 1400x1050 just isn't enough. |
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| 22:51.53 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: apt-get --reinstall install kdm |
| 22:52.02 | canllaith | I'm really not much of a thinkpad person myself, but I can't really use anything else given where I work :) |
| 22:52.03 | Alumin_ | just make sure you know how to reapply any customizations you have |
| 22:52.06 | canllaith | at home I use a sony vaio |
| 22:52.10 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: me too |
| 22:52.11 | pefate | bonjour à tous j'ai un probleme avec squirrelmail, quelqu'un peut m'aider? |
| 22:52.14 | ravermeister | does it overwrite the config files of kdm?? |
| 22:52.15 | MrWGW | I use an IBM X41 Tablet ThinkPad, and use IBM peripherals with my non-IBM hardware |
| 22:52.16 | Alumin_ | I have a T23 and I love it |
| 22:52.17 | Jucato | MrWGW: might want to try asking in #kde-artists... I'm not really sure about specs. You might also want to try to make your icon theme compliant with freedesktop.org standards |
| 22:52.24 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: that's the plan, yeah |
| 22:52.24 | Jucato | pefate: English please |
| 22:52.29 | pefate | <b><font color=""> |
| 22:52.29 | pefate | ERREUR : Connexion interrompue par le serveur IMAP.</font></b> |
| 22:52.30 | MrWGW | it's not an icon theme, Jucato, its a single icon |
| 22:52.30 | Shirakawasuna | canllaith: how much was the lonovo/vaio? |
| 22:52.32 | Shirakawasuna | *lenovo |
| 22:52.33 | ravermeister | okay :) |
| 22:52.37 | Jucato | MrWGW: ah just one? |
| 22:52.41 | MrWGW | yes |
| 22:52.44 | MinceR | i don't like lenovo since they don't ship with nvidia gpu-s |
| 22:52.45 | MrWGW | but for a specific project |
| 22:52.50 | MrWGW | which might later get its own complete icon theme |
| 22:52.55 | pefate | i have a pb with squirrelmail |
| 22:53.01 | canllaith | Shirakawasuna: the vaio was 4000 NZD (2000EUR) the thinkpad I don't know, work gave it to me. |
| 22:53.03 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: I'm ready for a more modern laptop, but I'm scared that Lenovo won't have the same Linux support that the IBM-created Thinkpads do/did |
| 22:53.13 | MrWGW | I wouldn't worry about it |
| 22:53.24 | MrWGW | AFAIK, they sell them with Linux preloaded |
| 22:53.32 | MrWGW | they make no guarantees, but you can bet they'll be more accomodating than say, HP |
| 22:53.35 | Alumin_ | bah @ preload |
| 22:53.39 | MrWGW | Lenovo is being very careful not to alienate IBM loyalists |
| 22:53.42 | Jucato | MrWGW: hm... you might still want to ask the kde-artists. but afaik, the way they do it is make the icon from SVG, then generate PNG of different sizes from that SVG |
| 22:53.50 | MrWGW | which is why they backed off on the Titanium look |
| 22:53.51 | Alumin_ | first thing I do with any new box is blow it away and reinstall :) |
| 22:53.58 | Shirakawasuna | canllaith: ah, I'm too poor for that :) |
| 22:53.58 | MrWGW | OK |
| 22:54.00 | canllaith | lenovo are still selling IBM branded thinkpads anyway |
| 22:54.03 | ravermeister | hmm some errors appeared |
| 22:54.04 | MrWGW | they're at #kde-artists? |
| 22:54.07 | canllaith | You can grab a T60, which has good support under suse at least |
| 22:54.09 | canllaith | and damnit! |
| 22:54.13 | canllaith | someone is eating chicken and I'm hungry! |
| 22:54.13 | Shirakawasuna | canllaith: my laptop was $700 ;) |
| 22:54.18 | ravermeister | how can i post them here?? |
| 22:54.21 | Shirakawasuna | almost completely linux-friendly |
| 22:54.30 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: but if all the hardware works, for example, in yours, then it's all good |
| 22:54.34 | Alumin_ | linux is linux |
| 22:54.37 | SimAtWork | my laptop was 2500 |
| 22:54.39 | canllaith | I had a cheap laptop but it was stolen and I decided to replace it with a nice one |
| 22:54.41 | SimAtWork | and it's not linux friendly at all |
| 22:54.50 | SimAtWork | but it's OSX friendly, which will be good enough once KDE 4 comes out |
| 22:55.12 | MrWGW | I want to get some used ThinkPads also |
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| 22:55.26 | MrWGW | I am really in need of more computers now that I'm getting into FOSS UI design |
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| 22:55.45 | haxin | Hey all - not too sure what I did but some how my systray equivalent in X11/KDE vanished. Anyway I can 'restart' this process or some how get it back without closing out of X? |
| 22:55.51 | wolsni | MrWGW: why's that? |
| 22:55.54 | canllaith | argh I *have* to get food. Starving. Starving. Starving. |
| 22:56.01 | wolsni | haxin: you either need to run |
| 22:56.08 | wolsni | 'dcop kicker kicker restart' |
| 22:56.11 | MrWGW | because running different OSses in VMs isn't fast enough |
| 22:56.12 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: I'll trade you my three other T21s for your Z6 :) |
| 22:56.15 | MrWGW | except on my fastest hardware |
| 22:56.20 | MrWGW | haha, no |
| 22:56.36 | wolsni | haxin: or right click on the panel and choose "add applet to panel" and add the system tray applet |
| 22:56.37 | Alumin_ | hey it was worth a try |
| 22:56.37 | MrWGW | but I am shopping for ThinkPads in the $200 range |
| 22:56.44 | MrWGW | that work |
| 22:56.55 | Alumin_ | I found mine on Craigslist |
| 22:56.56 | MrWGW | also ThinkCentres |
| 22:56.59 | ravermeister | hey how can i post some source code |
| 22:57.07 | Alumin_ | what's a ThinkCentre? |
| 22:57.08 | MrWGW | ThinkPads are slightly more useful because they're easier to store |
| 22:57.17 | MrWGW | so I can just drop the OS of the moment on one of them |
| 22:57.20 | ravermeister | or better the error messages from my konsole when i try to make the command of Alumin |
| 22:57.27 | MrWGW | and then shove it in a closet when its not in use |
| 22:57.42 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: see topic, rafb.net/paste |
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| 22:57.48 | MrWGW | btw, why is this room so much less moribund than GNOME? |
| 22:57.53 | haxin | wolsni : I'll give that a shot - I mean my entire menu is gone - at the bottom of the screen there is nothing there ;) |
| 22:57.57 | MrWGW | I've been in #GNOME a few times |
| 22:58.00 | MrWGW | and its been pretty quiet |
| 22:58.04 | Alumin_ | MrWGW: our icons are prettier, it makes us more chipper |
| 22:58.04 | Aghaster | Hi, I'd like to know how file types are associated with an icon in KDE. |
| 22:58.06 | MrWGW | which is odd, considering the attention that GNOME is getting |
| 22:58.07 | Jucato | haxin: you have no panel at all? |
| 22:58.40 | MrWGW | true |
| 22:58.40 | ravermeister | thx moment |
| 22:58.41 | haxin | Jucato : that is correct |
| 22:58.41 | Aghaster | I'm writing a slackware build script for an app that provides an icon for .torrent files, and I'd like to make the script automatically associate this icon with the .torrent files |
| 22:58.41 | wolsni | haxin: both of the things I said are wrong then, sorry |
| 22:58.43 | Jucato | haxin: press Ctrl+Esc, see if kicker is running |
| 22:58.44 | Alumin_ | I was a long-time GNOME user, but switched to KDE when I installed Kubuntu 5.10 and went _damn_ |
| 22:58.49 | MrWGW | I really like Windows XP icons |
| 22:58.53 | MrWGW | that's the only part of that OS I like |
| 22:59.01 | haxin | wolsni : its okay - I did not properly explain my self as I have NO idea what that 'bar' is called |
| 22:59.10 | MrWGW | let me clarify that |
| 22:59.15 | Jucato | haxin: the KDE panel is called Kicker |
| 22:59.18 | haxin | I tried CTRL+ESC earlier and that only brings up a processtable |
| 22:59.22 | MrWGW | I like some of the Windows XP icons for third party applications |
| 22:59.27 | Jucato | haxin: yes, see if kicker is running |
| 22:59.29 | MrWGW | and for Office |
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| 22:59.44 | ravermeister | okay here i put the error message |
| 22:59.46 | ravermeister | http://rafb.net/p/341xbD33.html |
| 22:59.47 | haxin | Jucato : roger that checking |
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| 22:59.57 | haxin | Jucato : nope it wasn't so I just ran it |
| 22:59.58 | MrWGW | Office2003 had nice icons IMO |
| 23:00.13 | Jucato | haxin: from where did you run kicker? Alt+F2? |
| 23:00.16 | PhilOut | Aghaster: I think there's a cross desktop way to do that - ask in #freedesktop or see freedesktop.org. For just KDE, I think you can just put a .desktop in $KDEDIR/share/mimelnk. See the existing files there for examples |
| 23:00.25 | haxin | looks like a few things also got killed |
| 23:00.32 | haxin | ohh well thank you for clearing this up! |
| 23:00.40 | Jucato | hi PhilOut! |
| 23:00.44 | haxin | and helpingme out |
| 23:00.47 | MrWGW | ok |
| 23:00.54 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: looks like your debconf is trying (and failing) to invoke some kind of KDE frontend |
| 23:00.54 | MrWGW | I think I finally found some specs |
| 23:01.01 | PhilOut | ravermeister: looks like a question for #yourdistro |
| 23:01.12 | logixoul | lparry: np :) |
| 23:01.17 | PhilOut | hi Jucato :-) |
| 23:01.39 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: that's probably a packaging problem...but you might try "dpkg-reconfigure debconf" and tell it to use the pager frontend instead of kde |
| 23:01.47 | Aghaster | PhilOut: thanks |
| 23:02.03 | Alumin_ | but the real solution is to fix the problem causing the error |
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| 23:02.50 | ravermeister | okay then i know the problem, i made the command in the terminal, and normally with synaptic there appear windows for configuring the packages |
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| 23:03.09 | ravermeister | but the error should not be worth for re installing the package or?? |
| 23:03.13 | evilbulgarian | hi, how do i prevent kopete from having diff tab for each jabber resource a user has? |
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| 23:03.49 | ravermeister | #kubuntu is not as helpful as you are ;) |
| 23:03.57 | ravermeister | have asked there yet |
| 23:04.08 | Jucato | ravermeister: they might not know the answer to your question |
| 23:04.15 | Jucato | doesn't mean they don't want to help |
| 23:04.46 | ravermeister | okay youre right |
| 23:04.59 | ravermeister | i didnt mean it like that |
| 23:05.07 | Jucato | evilbulgarian: Settings -> Configure -> Behavior -> Chat tab -> Chat Window Grouping Policy |
| 23:05.39 | ravermeister | but jucato and alumin are you using kde3.5.5? |
| 23:06.25 | Jucato | ravermeister: I'm using Kubuntu and testing compiled KDE 3.5.6 |
| 23:06.30 | evilbulgarian | Jucato: i have to group all messages in same chagt window |
| 23:06.43 | Jucato | evilbulgarian: if that's what you want, yes |
| 23:06.52 | wolsni | Jucato: he's asking about tabs |
| 23:07.00 | wolsni | as far as I know you can't do that... |
| 23:07.07 | wolsni | maybe ask in #kopete? |
| 23:07.08 | Jucato | wolsni: huh? |
| 23:07.21 | logixoul | wolsni: that's about tabs, actually |
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| 23:07.38 | evilbulgarian | wolsni: yeah asked there thx! Its getting really bad when their resouce changes often |
| 23:07.38 | ravermeister | okay but better test than guess i think, would you paste me your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ? |
| 23:07.47 | ravermeister | maybe that works. |
| 23:08.32 | wolsni | he wants to put messages from the same metacontact but different contacts in the same tab |
| 23:09.13 | logixoul | wolsni: well that's there too - "group messages from same metacontact in same chat window" |
| 23:09.32 | ravermeister | would be very nice of you... |
| 23:09.41 | wolsni | that doesn't create a new tab for each contact? |
| 23:09.54 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: I'm using whatever is in Kubuntu 6.06 |
| 23:10.06 | Alumin_ | 3.5.2 I believe |
| 23:10.14 | Jucato | PhilOut: are you a bit busy? |
| 23:10.28 | Jucato | Alumin_: yep 3.5.2, but you can upgrade to 3.5.5 |
| 23:10.37 | logixoul | wolsni: no, it groups messages from the same metacontact in the same chat window. of course, it opens messages from different metacontacts in different chat windows ;) |
| 23:11.10 | Jucato | logixoul: may I ask what distro you are using? |
| 23:11.14 | wolsni | logixoul: i said contact and that's what I meant |
| 23:11.18 | logixoul | Jucato: openSUSE |
| 23:11.31 | logixoul | and you're using "Kub", I seem to recall ;) |
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| 23:11.43 | Jucato | logixoul: could you do a bit of bug testing for me? it's just quick and easy |
| 23:11.45 | Jucato | :) |
| 23:11.51 | logixoul | sure |
| 23:12.00 | Jucato | logixoul: hehe I'm using half of Kubuntu only :P |
| 23:12.02 | logixoul | wolsni: never mind |
| 23:12.07 | logixoul | lol |
| 23:12.11 | ravermeister | i guess kde3.5.4 but would be very nice of you if you could paste me your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc too, maybe that works, i cant find the standard one by searching in google |
| 23:12.39 | ravermeister | but 3.52 could also be im not sure |
| 23:12.46 | Jucato | logixoul: could you add a new panel, then right-click to Configure Panel, please check if the dropdown list to choose which panel to configure is there? |
| 23:12.52 | Alumin_ | apt-get source kdm |
| 23:13.08 | Alumin_ | or you can extract kdmrc from the .deb you have in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 23:13.12 | Alumin_ | if you have it in there |
| 23:13.56 | ravermeister | too late now i have the tarball |
| 23:14.00 | ravermeister | and then normal install |
| 23:14.07 | ravermeister | with make and make install?? |
| 23:14.21 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone knows of there's a good kde music tag editor? Preferably one that can edit album art for flacs |
| 23:14.28 | logixoul | Jucato: when I enter "Configure - KDE Panel" i do have a "Settings for" combobox at the top, for the "Arrangement" and "Hiding" sections |
| 23:14.32 | logixoul | Shirakawasuna: amarok? |
| 23:14.48 | Jucato | logixoul: hmm.... weird... |
| 23:14.51 | Shirakawasuna | logixoul: doesn't actually edit albumart for any files - also the batch editing doesn't include all the tags, sadly |
| 23:14.52 | Jucato | I wish annma were here... |
| 23:15.06 | logixoul | Shirakawasuna: prokyon3 then? |
| 23:15.14 | Alumin_ | well, it'll be in the tarball too |
| 23:15.16 | logixoul | Shirakawasuna: or kid3? |
| 23:15.23 | Shirakawasuna | ah, I remember starting out w/ prokyon3. I got confused with the whole mysql thing |
| 23:15.35 | Shirakawasuna | logixoul: I'll look at kid3, thanks |
| 23:15.41 | logixoul | np |
| 23:15.48 | Alumin_ | ravermeister: unpack the tarball, cd into the top directory of it, and do "find . -name kdmrc -print" |
| 23:15.50 | Jucato | logixoul: so this was after you added a panel? |
| 23:15.58 | ravermeister | okay |
| 23:16.03 | ravermeister | i understand thank you |
| 23:16.19 | ravermeister | if it wont help i will be here tommorow okay |
| 23:16.31 | ravermeister | thank you very much for your help. |
| 23:16.46 | Alumin_ | no problem |
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| 23:17.26 | logixoul | Jucato: yep |
| 23:17.34 | logixoul | Jucato: "external taskbar" |
| 23:17.56 | Jucato | logixoul: er... no, just a Panel |
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| 23:18.35 | Jucato | ok this is even stranger... |
| 23:18.41 | logixoul | Jucato: ok, same for just a "Panel" |
| 23:18.47 | Jucato | ah ok. thanks |
| 23:18.50 | logixoul | np |
| 23:18.54 | Jucato | bah that was totally weird... |
| 23:19.40 | logixoul | what? |
| 23:19.50 | Jucato | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136781 |
| 23:20.13 | Jucato | logixoul: I also experienced that bug when I was using Kubuntu's KDE 3.5.5 packages |
| 23:20.36 | Jucato | I didn't report it (my bad). and forgot about it until today. |
| 23:21.22 | Jucato | I tried to reproduce the bug on KDE 3.5.6 from SVN. the first time I tried, I was able to reproduce it. but after doing the fix (restarting kicker), I can't reproduce it anymore |
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| 23:21.50 | logixoul | Jucato: well, one bug i just saw is that after i removed external taskbar and added a "Panel", the combobox still contains "external taskbar" and does NOT contain "Panel". pretty close to what the report describes. |
| 23:21.53 | Jucato | ok.. I can reproduce it again lol |
| 23:22.25 | Jucato | logixoul: ok. confirming that the bug still exists... |
| 23:22.28 | logixoul | kk |
| 23:22.32 | Jucato | darn! I should have watched this bug. |
| 23:22.39 | Jucato | thanks |
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| 23:23.23 | Jucato | I can confirm that behavior to. it seems that you need to restart kicker in order to update the configuration dialog box |
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| 23:25.10 | lparry | logixoul - Sent off to request for a Svn account, not just have to wait |
| 23:25.33 | vasa | hi. How autostart i app on needed desktop? ~/.kde/Autostart..... |
| 23:26.43 | Alumin_ | vasa: are you asking how to create an Autostart entry that launches an application on a particular desktop |
| 23:27.12 | vasa | íóû |
| 23:27.16 | vasa | yes |
| 23:27.30 | logixoul | kstart --desktop 5 kcalc |
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| 23:27.41 | logixoul | this'll run kcalc on desktop 5 |
| 23:27.48 | vasa | thx |
| 23:27.51 | vasa | big thanks |
| 23:27.54 | logixoul | np ;) |
| 23:28.03 | logixoul | lparry: cool |
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| 23:28.54 | lparry | #kubuntu |
| 23:29.25 | logixoul | (was that directed to me?) |
| 23:30.02 | Jucato | heh |
| 23:30.39 | Renze | this humidity will be the death of me |
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| 23:32.11 | Jucato | logixoul: you have super bug confirming powers, right? |
| 23:33.36 | logixoul | Jucato: yes, as much as you do i guess |
| 23:33.49 | Jucato | logixoul: heh no I have no such powers :) |
| 23:34.01 | Jucato | can this be marked as NEW? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136781 |
| 23:34.03 | logixoul | ooooh |
| 23:34.19 | logixoul | i misinterpreted "logixoul: ok. confirming that the bug still exists..." :) |
| 23:34.21 | logixoul | yeah, sure |
| 23:34.58 | Jucato | heh I don't even know what the CONFIRMED status means in KDE... |
| 23:35.16 | logixoul | it doesn't exist |
| 23:35.21 | pinotree | Jucato: http://bugs.kde.org/bug_status.html |
| 23:35.24 | Jucato | ah ok hehe |
| 23:35.28 | logixoul | for some unfathomable reason we use NEW instead... |
| 23:35.30 | Jucato | hi pinotree! thanks |
| 23:36.08 | Jucato | heh... |
| 23:36.29 | Jucato | same unfathomable reason that we don't have a NEEDSINFO and use REMIND instead? :) |
| 23:36.53 | pinotree | a NEEDSINFO would be too nice |
| 23:37.32 | Jucato | I heard there was a wish report for it already, not sure if in b.k.o. or in upstream bugzilla |
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| 23:37.56 | logixoul | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89671 |
| 23:38.18 | logixoul | upstream bugzilla has it ootb, only kde's bugzilla has it disabled |
| 23:38.18 | Jucato | aah nice |
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| 23:38.34 | Jucato | lol I think I voted for it last bug weekend |
| 23:38.37 | logixoul | people seem to ignore my last comment there ;) |
| 23:38.39 | logixoul | lol |
| 23:38.52 | logixoul | so it was you |
| 23:38.56 | Jucato | yep, gave it my 20 votes :) |
| 23:39.00 | logixoul | i was sure i gave that link to someone |
| 23:39.04 | _slacker_ | hi! alguien que hable español??? |
| 23:39.18 | logixoul | _slacker_: no, inglesias only |
| 23:39.25 | Renze | hablar en inglés, por favor |
| 23:39.28 | Jucato | me and my faulty memory :) |
| 23:39.38 | Jucato | logixoul: inglesias? O.o |
| 23:39.44 | Renze | julio? |
| 23:39.49 | logixoul | rofl |
| 23:39.52 | Jucato | rofl |
| 23:40.02 | logixoul | bear with me, i study only german :P |
| 23:40.20 | Renze | logixoul: scheiße! |
| 23:40.20 | Jucato | hehe let Renze take care of the Spanish ones, then :P |
| 23:40.33 | Renze | I don't speak spanish... I just fake it ;) |
| 23:40.33 | logixoul | Renze: himmel donnerwetter! |
| 23:40.37 | logixoul | lol |
| 23:40.59 | Jucato | at least you faked it correctly |
| 23:41.10 | Renze | I did? cool ;) |
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| 23:41.38 | _slacker_ | ok, np, i was looking for any spanish-speaker because the kde-es channel is dissapeared :s |
| 23:41.41 | Jucato | you didn't say "inglesias", did you? :P |
| 23:42.22 | _slacker_ | anyway i have a stupid question, after a fresh install of slack11 i have the "Lost Objects" of the KDE Menu, full of apps :s |
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| 23:42.32 | Jucato | logixoul: btw, have you dropped by #kde-bugs recently? |
| 23:42.33 | _slacker_ | anyone know why? :s |
| 23:42.42 | Jucato | Lost & Found? |
| 23:42.50 | PhilOut | 'night |
| 23:43.03 | logixoul | Jucato: a few times, recently-ish, but everyone was dead |
| 23:43.10 | _slacker_ | yes, sorry, Lost & Found |
| 23:43.23 | Jucato | logixoul: you've seen the bot apokryphos lent to us? |
| 23:43.43 | logixoul | wow no |
| 23:45.04 | Shirakawasuna | arhg, kid3 doesn't list a tag for flac cover art |
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| 23:48.24 | CMoH-notebook | anyone here used multisynk successfully? i can't seem to connect with it to resources |
| 23:49.51 | Lexus^ | logixoul: found a very nice ftp client for kde, kasablanca |
| 23:50.10 | CMoH-notebook | not even the local ones, except maybe local files (with which it does nothing) |
| 23:50.35 | CMoH-notebook | i've searched a bit for this problem, but all reports of problems are after that |
| 23:50.56 | logixoul | Lexus^: heard of it, yes. i might check it out. |
| 23:51.01 | Jucato | kftpgrabber? konqueror? :) |
| 23:51.30 | logixoul | konqueror doesn't support queueing i think |
| 23:51.46 | logixoul | people seem to hate kftpgrabber, i haven't tried it |
| 23:52.22 | Jucato | aaah |
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| 23:52.46 | Jucato | one kubuntu dev recently "discovered" it and loved it, though (kftpgrabber) |
| 23:53.23 | Lexus^ | logixoul: kftpgrabber sucked :) |
| 23:53.45 | Lexus^ | tried it last night |
| 23:53.45 | logixoul | k Lexus^, k Jucato, good to know |
| 23:53.59 | Lexus^ | and now it doesnt let me resume the queue without crashing :DD |
| 23:54.41 | Lexus^ | night |
| 23:54.53 | logixoul | night |
| 23:55.02 | x_link | I need some help |
| 23:55.14 | logixoul | ask away |
| 23:55.22 | x_link | When I drag my mouse over icons on my desktop I get that normal big white hand like I should |
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| 23:55.49 | andrea_ | hi |
| 23:55.51 | x_link | But when I want for example close a window or something, when I have the mouse over the X or the _ I get this other ugly hand |
| 23:55.59 | andrea_ | i have a question |
| 23:56.05 | logixoul | xlink: are you using kwin? |
| 23:56.08 | x_link | The funny thing is that I haven't changed anyhing. |
| 23:56.14 | andrea_ | is there any possibility to use kdict with a local dictionary? |
| 23:56.18 | x_link | logixoul: I'm using Beryl on my KDE. |
| 23:56.23 | andrea_ | i mean..that can be used even when you are offline |
| 23:56.27 | logixoul | x_link: well that's the reason. |
| 23:56.30 | Jucato | so you did change something :) |
| 23:56.37 | logixoul | x_link: report the bug to beryl. |
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| 23:56.44 | logixoul | x_link: or ask at #beryl ;) |
| 23:56.47 | x_link | I did |
| 23:56.50 | x_link | No Beryl bug. |
| 23:56.54 | x_link | They say.... |
| 23:57.44 | logixoul | well x_link that's kinda weird anyway as i use beryl as we speak and the KDE cursors are used. |
| 23:57.52 | Jucato | the problem is, we can't really confirm (nor deny) if the bug is on KDE's part, because you're not using KDE's window manager |
| 23:58.14 | andrea_ | no one can help me? |
| 23:58.52 | Jucato | andrea_: not really sure... KDict *is* an "online dictionary"... |
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| 23:59.26 | logixoul | andrea_: http://google.com/search?q=kdict+offline |
| 23:59.29 | andrea_ | Jucato, i know...maybe i put the question in a wrong way :) |
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| 23:59.47 | Alumin_ | andrea_: the dict client has to talk to a dictionary server |
| 23:59.49 | andrea_ | logixoul, what i meant is if there is any equivalent offline dictionary :D |
| 23:59.54 | Alumin_ | now, you can run dictd on your local machine |
