| 00:00.12 | Shirakawasuna | Argyrw^_: precaching |
| 00:00.25 | Shirakawasuna | if only nsplugins didn't depend on mozilla-firefox :/ |
| 00:00.41 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: :-D |
| 00:00.49 | Argyrw^_ | what precaching refers to ? |
| 00:00.58 | Kasyx | Argyrw^_: doing things before it's actually needed |
| 00:01.03 | Shirakawasuna | Argyrw^_: loading libraries, etc, before they're needed |
| 00:01.13 | Shirakawasuna | Argyrw^_: then when you need them, they're almost instantly there (loaded from memory) |
| 00:02.15 | Renze | Argyrw^_: and Qt is technically better than Gtk anyway |
| 00:02.16 | Shirakawasuna | Argyrw^_: much like the case in which opening konqueror after the first time you open it is much faster |
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| 00:02.16 | Argyrw^_ | xm, I see |
| 00:02.19 | Shirakawasuna | Argyrw^_: the konqueror process doesn't actually die when you close the window so that when you open it the next time it's very fast |
| 00:03.47 | Argyrw^_ | Sounds reasonable, I am an (ex) gnome user & I was surprised by how quick KDE desktop ran on my pc |
| 00:03.58 | Kasyx | Mind you, being in a #kde channel we may be slightly biased ;-) |
| 00:04.07 | Renze | Kasyx: only slightly ;) |
| 00:04.13 | Kasyx | *grin* |
| 00:04.24 | Kasyx | I can't believe how much of a kde whore I've become o.o |
| 00:04.36 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: now help me get the tab bar below the address bar ;) |
| 00:04.38 | Argyrw^_ | lol |
| 00:04.43 | Renze | Kasyx: it affects us all in our own way |
| 00:04.45 | SimAtWork | what the world needs now is more kde whores. |
| 00:04.48 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: easy! |
| 00:04.48 | smileaf | us bias? heck no, its not our fault the others who don't run KDE don't know how incredibly awesome it is :) |
| 00:04.53 | SimAtWork | someone should get paris hilton using kde. |
| 00:04.58 | SimAtWork | on second thought, lets not do that. |
| 00:05.00 | Argyrw^_ | SimAtWork: LOL |
| 00:05.02 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: right click, customize, drag it around |
| 00:05.15 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: that's what I meant about it being completely customizable |
| 00:06.09 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: it's not dragging around :/ |
| 00:06.09 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: also, play around with the shortcuts (Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Shortcuts). I especially recommend changing ctrl-tab to something to change tabs quickly |
| 00:06.11 | Shirakawasuna | Jucato: it's not |
| 00:06.12 | Kasyx | Jucato: not yet |
| 00:06.21 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: erm |
| 00:06.21 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: (first thing I tried) |
| 00:06.24 | Jucato | Shirakawasuna: *it* is not? |
| 00:06.24 | Kasyx | *checks |
| 00:07.06 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: Oh, you need to turn off the address bar (customize, click it and select (off) from position) then go to buttons, browser view, and drag the address bar to where you want that way |
| 00:07.11 | Kasyx | If my memory serves |
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| 00:08.45 | Shirakawasuna | I'll try that |
| 00:09.24 | Kasyx | Oh, I'd better install java |
| 00:09.39 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: which skin do you use? |
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| 00:11.50 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: depends on my mood. I run baghira, so I tend towards the mac ones |
| 00:11.57 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: blue button is very good though |
| 00:12.20 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: the best thing is it takes seconds to change skin, so don't worry |
| 00:12.25 | Shirakawasuna | ahh, now I found the 'use system color scheme' option |
| 00:12.26 | Shirakawasuna | so much better |
| 00:13.12 | Kasyx | *LAUGH* |
| 00:13.31 | Kasyx | I love that quit message |
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| 00:16.44 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: when I do what you suggested above, it removes the entire toolbar the address field was on and then when I drag it back, the whole thing pops up |
| 00:16.44 | Kasyx | *thunks* |
| 00:16.44 | Kasyx | Lemme try |
| 00:17.27 | Kasyx | You want tabs or address bar on top? |
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| 00:18.03 | Shirakawasuna | I want it to be like firefox/konqueror, tabs below address bar toolbar |
| 00:18.14 | Kasyx | Isn't that the default? o.o |
| 00:19.09 | Argyrw^_ | It would be better imho, address bar right to main toolbar & menu hidden |
| 00:19.28 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: apparently not :/ |
| 00:19.40 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: I just added the 'personal' toolbar, too, and it got added by default on top of everything :) |
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| 00:20.54 | Saizan | someone here use umbrello for class diagrams with templates? |
| 00:21.00 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: yeah, sorry. That's odd, I'm sure you could |
| 00:21.48 | Shirakawasuna | argh |
| 00:24.54 | Shirakawasuna | I'll juse use ~x86 and see what happens |
| 00:27.31 | Kasyx | Shirakawasuna: I'm on 9.10, it doesn't work there either I'm afraig |
| 00:27.34 | Kasyx | *afriad |
| 00:27.39 | Kasyx | Ah buggerit. You know what I mean |
| 00:27.44 | Shirakawasuna | yeah |
| 00:29.57 | Kasyx | Now do I try beryl tonight, or do I try and get a konq working with java and flash....hmmm |
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| 00:32.48 | SimAtWork | bye all |
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| 00:39.29 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: finally go tit by editing toolbars |
| 00:40.23 | Kasyx | Ah, cool. I knew there was a way to do it |
| 00:40.37 | Kasyx | And I'm already stumped by konq's interface. I can't do _anything_! |
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| 00:41.10 | illogic-al | Kasyx: how so? |
| 00:42.24 | Kasyx | Well, I don't want to see a status bar unless there is something to tell me, like how the progress of the webpage is going. I don't want any buttons visible at all *which is fair enough, I can do that*. I want the tab list at the right hand side of the screen. I want a very small address bar at the top of the tab bar. No menu bar (which I can do too). |
| 00:42.28 | Kasyx | Thus, stumped :-D |
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| 00:43.15 | Jucato | :P |
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| 00:43.56 | benJIman | you can remove everything except the status bar Kasyx |
| 00:44.13 | Kasyx | benJIman: I don't want to remove everything though, I want to shift it :-D |
| 00:44.26 | benJIman | you can move the toolbars about, what do you want to move? |
| 00:44.32 | illogic-al | tabs can also be placed on the right. by dragging them. |
| 00:44.34 | benJIman | the status bar isn't a toolbar though, hence you can't remove or move it |
| 00:44.37 | Kasyx | The tab bar to the right, vertical |
| 00:45.45 | benJIman | I don't think qtabbar supports vertical tabs in 3.x |
| 00:46.22 | Jucato | probably it can be a new feature? Konvi can have vertical tabs...maybe Konqi can, too? |
| 00:46.26 | illogic-al | they are vertical. i think you two mean horizontal |
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| 00:46.40 | Kasyx | illogic-al: no, other way around :-) |
| 00:47.04 | illogic-al | the tab bar on the right of konq is already vertical. |
| 00:47.11 | illogic-al | * on the left |
| 00:47.19 | Jucato | illogic-al? |
| 00:47.29 | Jucato | you're talking about the Navigation Panel? |
| 00:47.36 | illogic-al | yes |
| 00:47.44 | Jucato | he's talking about *the* tabs |
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| 00:48.00 | Jucato | the Konqueror tabs themselves |
| 00:48.06 | illogic-al | ah |
| 00:48.34 | benJIman | in Qt4 they can be vertical, not in Qt3 |
| 00:48.45 | illogic-al | those are indeed pretty immobile |
| 00:49.03 | Jucato | benJIman: how about Konvi's? |
| 00:49.11 | illogic-al | hardly a big deal. doesn't prevent you from using konq effectively. |
| 00:49.12 | Jucato | not really vertical, but a tab list |
| 00:49.14 | benJIman | Jucato: that uses a custom widget |
| 00:49.23 | illogic-al | Jucato: those aren't tab bars |
| 00:49.24 | _226 | where can i whine about karamba and his/her themes? |
| 00:49.27 | _226 | ;< |
| 00:49.32 | benJIman | Jucato: I'm talking about the QTabBar class |
| 00:49.51 | illogic-al | Jucato: they're labels of some sort IIRC |
| 00:49.52 | Jucato | ah |
| 00:50.05 | Jucato | I'll ask Sho when he's around |
| 00:50.37 | Jucato | maybe, just maybe, it could be possible, since we have side *tabs* in Navigation panels? |
| 00:51.09 | Jucato | but yeah, normally it's no big deal, except for some very unique individuals who want them like that :P |
| 00:51.15 | benJIman | Jucato: they're kmultitabbar not derived from qtabbar |
| 00:51.33 | benJIman | They also don't look much like tabs |
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| 00:52.01 | Jucato | true, hence the "*tabs*" :) |
| 00:52.51 | _226 | anyone uses superkaramba with dynbar theme? ;/ |
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| 01:00.18 | Kasyx | Hmm. Kopete is lying to me. I used to be able to press alt-f11 to get rid of the menubar :-( |
| 01:00.27 | Kasyx | Oh, ctrl-m |
| 01:00.28 | Kasyx | Sorted |
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| 01:01.55 | sharp15 | does kde provide an equivalent for xmessage? |
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| 01:02.41 | illogic-al | kmessage ;-) |
| 01:02.51 | Kasyx | If in doubt, add a k :-D |
| 01:03.02 | illogic-al | sharp15: kdialog actually |
| 01:03.09 | _226 | hmm, "Add new Panel" thing |
| 01:03.14 | _226 | can you edit this added panel? |
| 01:04.18 | sharp15 | illogic-al: thank you. the first thing i tried was "kmessage", but kdialog makes sense as well. |
| 01:05.38 | Shirakawasuna | Kasyx: do you watch videos in opera, and if so with what plugin? |
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| 01:08.01 | sharp15 | illogic-al: do you know if there is a reason kdialog doesn't have a man or info page? |
| 01:08.11 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:09.18 | Jucato | sharp15: it does here... try man:/kdialog in Konqueror? |
| 01:09.37 | illogic-al | sharp15: just typing kdialog at the terminal gives you a list of options |
| 01:09.45 | Dhraakellian | and either amarok or easytag is lying to me |
| 01:09.49 | Dhraakellian | possibly both |
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| 01:09.56 | illogic-al | sharp15: and tells you what they do. |
| 01:10.44 | Dhraakellian | although that still gives me incorrect lengths in amarok |
| 01:11.02 | Dhraakellian | (and the mp3fixer script just fracks up the files rather than actually fix them) |
| 01:11.03 | sharp15 | illogic-al: i tried that, not enough info. i'd like to know if kdialog can take message data from the command-line. (i.e. df -h | kdialog --msgbox) |
| 01:11.25 | illogic-al | then just try'n see :-) |
| 01:11.36 | Renze | sharp15: kdialog --msgbox "`df -h`" |
| 01:12.05 | sharp15 | Jucato: it doesn't here (i assume the / in man:/kdialog is a typo, neither worked.) |
| 01:12.52 | sharp15 | Renze: thank you. i guess i need to go read up on bash scripting. |
| 01:13.06 | Renze | no problem |
| 01:13.30 | Kasyx | Is there anyway to find out the size of a particular directory from the console? |
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| 01:13.41 | Renze | du -hs <directory name> |
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| 01:13.54 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:13.55 | Kasyx | Thanks Renze |
| 01:14.00 | sharp15 | illogic-al: i had tried that already. for some deranged reason i was expecting kdialog and xmessage to have similar syntax. |
| 01:14.00 | Renze | no problem |
| 01:14.06 | Dhraakellian | never *ever* do /exec cmd du without teh -s |
| 01:14.54 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: what exactly does that do? (i'm not going to type it and find out.) |
| 01:15.07 | Renze | it floods the channel |
| 01:15.14 | Dhraakellian | sharp15: the -s makes it so that it only displays the result |
| 01:15.25 | Renze | -s == summary |
| 01:15.26 | Dhraakellian | not all the files and subdirectories it's scanning |
| 01:15.27 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
| 01:15.34 | sharp15 | ouch. |
| 01:15.38 | Kasyx | Hehe |
| 01:15.40 | Kasyx | That would be fun |
| 01:15.42 | Dhraakellian | so /exec cmd du -hs is fine |
| 01:15.50 | Kasyx | -h is human readable, right? |
| 01:15.53 | Renze | yup |
| 01:15.54 | Kasyx | Like in ls or df |
| 01:16.14 | Dhraakellian | 65M/home/ntryon/Documents |
| 01:16.24 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:16.27 | Dhraakellian | and there's a tab in there |
| 01:16.42 | Dhraakellian | which konversation oh so politely interpreted as italics |
| 01:16.42 | Renze | tabs get converted into "start italics" for some reason |
| 01:16.54 | Renze | probably because it is a ctrl-i |
| 01:16.59 | Renze | blah |
| 01:17.02 | Dhraakellian | Renze: yeah |
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| 01:17.17 | Dhraakellian | Renze: it's apparently something that amirc supported |
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| 01:17.25 | Dhraakellian | which is where the konvi devs got the idea |
| 01:17.48 | W8TAH | im having some issues in kopete on IRC 1. I cant get join/parts to turn off, and 2, I cant get sounds to play when a chan message is received on IRC |
| 01:17.54 | Dhraakellian | reverse bold underline italics |
| 01:18.08 | Dhraakellian | colloquy will interpret reverse as italics |
| 01:18.17 | Dhraakellian | konvi treats %R the same as bold |
| 01:19.06 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: i'll just stick with xchat and irssi. no need for all of the fancy stuff, but thanks for the heads up on it's existence. |
| 01:19.21 | W8TAH | Dhraakellian: LOL |
| 01:19.30 | Dhraakellian | sharp15: yeah, there are still a number of things that xchat does better than konversation |
| 01:19.42 | Dhraakellian | but konversation is still cathing up |
| 01:19.44 | benJIman | W8TAH: you can do both |
| 01:19.50 | Schuenemann | Dhraakellian: does konversation support background? |
| 01:19.54 | Schuenemann | color |
| 01:20.04 | Dhraakellian | and the devs aren't indiscriminately removing options from its gui like the xchat devs are |
| 01:20.07 | W8TAH | benJIman: so i have been told, im just having problems getting it to happen |
| 01:20.12 | Dhraakellian | Schuenemann: not afaik |
| 01:20.18 | Schuenemann | afaik? |
| 01:20.24 | Schuenemann | what's that? |
| 01:20.29 | Dhraakellian | Schuenemann: which is probably why it doesn't support %R properly |
| 01:20.32 | benJIman | W8TAH: settings -> .configure -> behaviour -> chat -> uncheck show events in chat window |
| 01:20.32 | Renze | "as far as I know" |
| 01:20.33 | Dhraakellian | ~ask afaik |
| 01:20.42 | Dhraakellian | ~afaik |
| 01:20.45 | apt | [afaik] some kind of acronym...but nobody knows what it means, as far as I know. |
| 01:20.45 | Jucato | Schuenemann: background color? yes |
| 01:20.45 | Schuenemann | !afaik |
| 01:20.45 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:20.45 | Schuenemann | 1,4 test |
| 01:20.47 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: no idea. i've never used konversation. i've just got a 15.4" 1920x1200 monitor on my laptop and can't read anything if some one does the reverse thing. |
| 01:20.49 | Schuenemann | Jucato: didn't work |
| 01:20.54 | Jucato | Schuenemann: afaik = as far as I know |
| 01:20.54 | W8TAH | benJIman: it is |
| 01:20.58 | sharp15 | like Schuenemann just did. |
| 01:21.03 | Schuenemann | I did? |
| 01:21.06 | W8TAH | benJIman: will it require a restart? |
| 01:21.06 | Dhraakellian | calc |
| 01:21.12 | Renze | you're all so slow :) |
| 01:21.18 | Schuenemann | Jucato: nothing happened here |
| 01:21.24 | sharp15 | Renze: what now? |
| 01:21.27 | Dhraakellian | the #amarok bot isn't in here, and that's the one with which I'm more familiar |
| 01:21.28 | Schuenemann | benJIman: why did you slap me? |
| 01:21.33 | Jucato | Schuenemann: where are you setting it? |
| 01:21.41 | Schuenemann | ctrl + k |
| 01:21.49 | benJIman | Schuenemann: for red flashing text |
| 01:21.58 | Jucato | Schuenemann: that's for text background color |
| 01:22.05 | Schuenemann | benJIman: that isn't color |
| 01:22.07 | Dhraakellian | 1,0testing |
| 01:22.08 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:22.15 | Schuenemann | Jucato: did you see red background? I selected that |
| 01:22.18 | benJIman | Schuenemann: it is red colour |
| 01:22.25 | Schuenemann | 1,4test |
| 01:22.25 | Dhraakellian | 2,3testing |
| 01:22.26 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:22.28 | Jucato | hmm... |
| 01:22.33 | Renze | I don't see any background colour |
| 01:22.34 | Schuenemann | it's black/white for me |
| 01:22.39 | Schuenemann | me neither |
| 01:22.43 | Dhraakellian | xchat users? |
| 01:22.45 | W8TAH | i see colors |
| 01:22.46 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: thanks now i won't be able to read anything in these channels. |
| 01:22.52 | W8TAH | im on kopete |
| 01:22.53 | Renze | 1,4blah! |
| 01:23.04 | Dhraakellian | it appers that konvi doesn't support the display of background colors |
| 01:23.09 | Jucato | 0,1Huh? |
| 01:23.11 | Renze | it would seem so |
| 01:23.14 | benJIman | OH NOES |
| 01:23.15 | Schuenemann | yeah... |
| 01:23.22 | Schuenemann | 1,4test |
| 01:23.38 | Schuenemann | 7,1test |
| 01:23.40 | Jucato | 0,1again... |
| 01:23.42 | Schuenemann | only foreground |
| 01:23.53 | Dhraakellian | %C01,01 is still nice for blacking out spoilers in certain channels |
| 01:23.56 | Jucato | lol... maybe the guys in #konversation would know better :) |
| 01:23.56 | Renze | Jucato: I can't see your white on white text unless I highlight it |
| 01:23.57 | W8TAH | benJIman: the setting is set as you told me, still i am getting the join / parts -- |
| 01:24.04 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: maybe i'll be using konvi then. |
| 01:24.09 | Dhraakellian | since I have a black background anyway... |
| 01:24.20 | Schuenemann | Jucato: how you did that? |
| 01:24.21 | Kasyx | How do I take a screenshot? o.o |
| 01:24.30 | Renze | Kasyx: ksnapshot |
| 01:24.41 | benJIman | W8TAH: there may be something in the irc settings bit |
| 01:24.43 | Jucato | Schuenemann: did what? |
| 01:24.45 | Kasyx | Ta |
| 01:24.57 | Dhraakellian | does printscreen launch ksnapshot by default in KDE? |
| 01:24.58 | W8TAH | benJIman: ok -- i'll keep lookin |
| 01:25.01 | Schuenemann | oh nevermind, you just used white foreground |
| 01:25.06 | Renze | Dhraakellian: I believe so |
| 01:25.08 | Schuenemann | for a moment I thought you changed the background |
| 01:25.18 | Jucato | I did |
| 01:25.19 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: not on gentoo, maybe elsewhere. |
| 01:25.19 | Renze | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.25 | Jucato | but *I* couldn't see it :) |
| 01:25.36 | Kasyx | sharp15: how do I set it up on gentoo? |
| 01:25.37 | Schuenemann | you and everybody using konversation? |
| 01:25.46 | Renze | sharp15: it does here on Gentoo |
| 01:25.53 | Kasyx | Ah goodgood |
| 01:25.56 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 01:26.01 | sharp15 | Kasyx: on kcontrol center set it as a keyboard shortcut. |
| 01:26.07 | Schuenemann | does chatzilla support colors? |
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| 01:26.18 | sharp15 | Renze: i meant not by default, did you make it do that? |
| 01:26.23 | Renze | sharp15: nope |
| 01:26.29 | Renze | sharp15: it came like that as default |
| 01:26.49 | Schuenemann | anybody here wants to play monopoly? hehe |
| 01:26.55 | sharp15 | Renze: hmm, maybe because i only didi "emerge kde-start", or what ever it was. |
| 01:27.09 | Renze | sharp15: possibly... I emerged the lot with kde-meta |
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| 01:27.33 | Dhraakellian | Why can't audiocd:/ just encode mp3's the way I ask it to? |
| 01:27.38 | Dhraakellian | Why? |
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| 01:27.48 | resistance | how can i diplay different screens on a dual monitor setup using kde? |
| 01:27.48 | benJIman | Dhraakellian: you can configure it in kcontrol |
| 01:27.51 | sharp15 | my hard drive space is too limited for software i don't use frequently. |
| 01:27.53 | resistance | is it possible |
| 01:28.07 | Dhraakellian | [x] Specify average bitrate (56 kbs) |
| 01:28.14 | benJIman | sharp15: you realise hard disk space is down to under 20p per gigabyte? |
| 01:28.16 | Dhraakellian | [x] Write Xing VBR tag |
| 01:28.23 | Dhraakellian | and still, it messes up |
| 01:28.29 | sharp15 | benJIman: laptop |
| 01:28.34 | Dhraakellian | amarok reports the wrong length and/or bitrate |
| 01:28.39 | benJIman | which means 25gb for the cost of a meal |
| 01:28.41 | Dhraakellian | and so does easytag half the time |
| 01:29.06 | benJIman | sharp15: even so, it's not insanely expensive |
| 01:29.22 | Kasyx | Hmm. Kopete seems to hate irc. |
| 01:29.47 | Renze | kopete's IRC plugin is quite far from complete |
| 01:29.53 | sharp15 | benJIman; dell was nice enough to make it a pita to get my laptop open. i can't get the casing open, makes it hard to swap out drives. |
| 01:29.58 | benJIman | I wouldn't use kopete if you are using busy channels, it's not efficient enough |
| 01:30.00 | Renze | it doesn't even have /ignore |
| 01:30.02 | Kasyx | Renze: as in it's not working at all? :-D |
| 01:30.14 | benJIman | It's designed as an IM app, and uses IRC in that way |
| 01:30.18 | Renze | Kasyx: oh, it works... but without /ignore, it's not much use to me :D |
| 01:30.19 | Kasyx | Hmm. I need a decent irc client then |
| 01:30.21 | benJIman | Renze: /ignore is impolite |
| 01:30.30 | Kasyx | Yeah, /ignore is useful |
| 01:30.37 | Renze | benJIman: but necessary for conserving limited supplies of sanity |
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| 01:30.52 | Schuenemann | I would like and IRC client as good as mirc |
| 01:30.56 | Schuenemann | an* |
| 01:30.56 | sharp15 | Kasyx: how about irssi? |
| 01:31.02 | Renze | mirc isn't good |
| 01:31.04 | benJIman | ugh |
| 01:31.06 | Schuenemann | I like it |
| 01:31.07 | Kasyx | sharp15: irssi is 1337 |
| 01:31.12 | Renze | mirc is awful |
| 01:31.17 | Kasyx | But, I want windows. |
| 01:31.17 | Schuenemann | specially because of the scripts |
| 01:31.23 | Kasyx | I like to see everything that's going on at once |
| 01:31.28 | sharp15 | Kasyx: but it's great if x is broke. |
| 01:31.31 | Kasyx | Which is why IM progs with IRC is good |
| 01:31.35 | Kasyx | sharp15: I love irssi! |
| 01:31.41 | resistance | so i take it it's not possible |
| 01:31.55 | Jucato | Kasyx: how about IRC progs with IM? :D |
| 01:31.56 | Schuenemann | mirc has windows but I don't like them |
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| 01:32.01 | Kasyx | Jucato: bitlbee? |
| 01:32.06 | Jucato | yep |
| 01:32.14 | W8TAH | Kasyx: i didnt much like bitlbee |
| 01:32.27 | Kasyx | I use bitlbee for msn, that's all. But only cause my network is fubard. |
| 01:32.56 | sharp15 | resistance: did you try Dhraakellian's kcontrol suggestion? |
| 01:33.01 | Dhraakellian | yes |
| 01:33.23 | Dhraakellian | yes, I am using kcontrol |
| 01:33.24 | W8TAH | any of you guys that use kopete (and there seem to be several of you) -- im fighting a few issues - and could use a bit of help - -the prescribed fixes dont seem to work right |
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| 01:33.34 | Dhraakellian | and. it's. NOT. WORKING.p |
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| 01:33.54 | Kasyx | W8TAH: there are alot of problems, but fire away :-D |
| 01:33.54 | W8TAH | issue 1 - i have the chat tab -- show events setting OFF and im still getting join parts |
| 01:34.09 | Kasyx | Dhraakellian: what's the problem? |
| 01:34.23 | W8TAH | issue 2 -- i cant get incomming messages to trigger a sound using custom notifcations |
| 01:34.30 | Dhraakellian | it's not really that major of an issue, I suppose |
| 01:34.58 | Dhraakellian | and I'm probably getting mad at the wrong thing, oslt |
| 01:35.05 | sharp15 | resistance: i've no idea, did you try kcontrol? there maybe settings for that, i've only got one monitor. |
| 01:36.02 | Kasyx | Dhraakellian: what is it though? |
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| 01:36.30 | Dhraakellian | easytag is reporting things correctly, it seems, but amarok still shows me half the bitrate and twice the length |
| 01:36.47 | Dhraakellian | trying to rip an audiobook to low-quality mp3 |
| 01:36.52 | Kasyx | Ah |
| 01:36.58 | Kasyx | Out of my league I'm afraid |
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| 01:37.41 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: on cd or tape? (probably a dumb question.) |
| 01:37.48 | W8TAH | Kasyx: any ideas? (or anyone else?) |
| 01:37.56 | Dhraakellian | CD, of course |
| 01:38.36 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: then try kaudiocreator. it does a decent variable bitrate, but you can specify the bitrate on the encode command. |
| 01:39.00 | Dhraakellian | sharp15: heh |
| 01:39.06 | Dhraakellian | I'm using audiocd:/ |
| 01:39.15 | Dhraakellian | same ioslave |
| 01:39.27 | Dhraakellian | kaudiocreator is just another frontend |
| 01:39.33 | Dhraakellian | iirc |
| 01:39.35 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian; i've no idea i just use the interface i find. |
| 01:39.44 | illogic-al | k |
| 01:39.45 | illogic-al | 3 |
| 01:39.46 | illogic-al | b |
| 01:40.00 | Dhraakellian | and I'm not sure where kaudiocreator gets its actual quality settings from |
| 01:40.01 | Dhraakellian | illogic-al: I might try that |
| 01:40.15 | illogic-al | that's all i use for ripping cds |
| 01:40.29 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: you specify them on a command, like easyaudiocreator on windows. |
| 01:40.44 | Dhraakellian | how much control does it give you over bitrate/quality settings? |
| 01:41.00 | Dhraakellian | sharp15: I somehow seem to recall those command settings not making much difference |
| 01:41.24 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:41.32 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: all i can say is that it claims it. |
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| 01:41.40 | Dhraakellian | hrm... |
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| 01:42.05 | Dhraakellian | well, I'm not sure if those settings are overridden by the kcontrol quality settings |
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| 01:42.43 | Dhraakellian | aanyway, now that I think about it a little more, I did rip some with audiocd:/FLAC and then use transKode to convert them to mp3 |
| 01:42.52 | Dhraakellian | and I had the same problem |
| 01:43.04 | will | hey, I'm a huge fan of Krita, but I like mostly Gnome software. I'm thinking, will it run completly on Ubuntu (Not kubuntu)? |
| 01:43.19 | illogic-al | yep |
| 01:43.39 | will | Will it take any performance hits? |
| 01:44.03 | Dhraakellian | well, other than loading the necessary libraries into memory, no |
| 01:44.11 | sharp15 | Dhraakellian: that's what kac does, execpt it uses wave or something. the encoder for kac uses all of it's quality settings specified on the command line. |
| 01:44.35 | will | Dhraakellian: Thanks. Exactly what I wanted to know, downloading ubuntu now. |
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| 01:47.05 | W8TAH | does anyone have an idea on my sound issue? |
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| 01:47.28 | W8TAH | (custom notifications wont play a sound when a message arrives in chan on irc) |
| 01:48.25 | sharp15 | W8TAH: sorry. i don't use kopete. either way the first thing i do with i'm clients is turn off audio notifications. |
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| 01:48.56 | W8TAH | sharp15: i understand, unfortunatly, i need them as im away from my desk often -- i set notificatsions for some of the more important chans |
| 01:49.23 | Kasyx | Wow, gaim is messed up |
| 01:49.31 | W8TAH | Kasyx: lol - what part of it? |
| 01:50.10 | Kasyx | W8TAH: I'm trying to get the windows the right sizes that I want. So I took measurements in gimp, and changed the prefs.xml. It didn't work. I'm very very confused |
| 01:50.29 | W8TAH | Kasyx: which wm? |
| 01:51.18 | Kasyx | W8TAH: I'll give you one guess, considering the channel ;-) |
| 01:51.36 | W8TAH | Kasyx: fair enuff - -i asked, because im in fluxbox, but using a kde app |
| 01:51.39 | W8TAH | LOL |
| 01:51.57 | Kasyx | W8TAH: ah, fair enough |
| 01:52.30 | W8TAH | Kasyx: i'll tell you this -- i have not had a lot of success in #gaim so i wouldnt waste much time there |
| 01:52.39 | Kasyx | Meh, worth a shot. |
| 01:53.20 | W8TAH | just apply common sense to what you are told - ive had a couple of procedures that looked like someone was tryin to mess up my client -- i finally gave up on them |
| 01:53.25 | Dhraakellian | so how does one rip with k3b? |
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| 01:53.52 | Dhraakellian | nm |
| 01:55.12 | Ace2016 | f... |
| 01:55.14 | Ace2016 | u... |
| 01:55.19 | Ace2016 | ...buntu (ubuntu with fluxbox) |
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| 01:55.34 | Ace2016 | i bet you were thinking c... was next right |
| 01:55.38 | Kasyx | I mean it should be simple. I knew what size it was before, what the settings were before, and what I wanted. I took the difference and changed the prefs. But no, it's made them too small now. |
| 01:55.44 | W8TAH | Ace2016: ya -- ive heard of it but never messed with it |
| 01:56.19 | W8TAH | Kasyx: ya -- i would agree |
| 01:56.30 | Kasyx | I know. It's simple maths. |
| 01:56.47 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:56.52 | W8TAH | lemme take a look at my gaim files |
| 01:56.55 | W8TAH | hold on a sec |
| 01:57.20 | Kasyx | It's cause the sizes defined in the prefs.xml are internal sizes. |
| 01:57.22 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 01:57.26 | Dhraakellian | ripped with mp3 |
| 01:57.33 | Kasyx | But even so, changing one of those internal ones changes the outside |
| 01:57.36 | Dhraakellian | amarok reports the bitrate as being too big |
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| 01:57.43 | Dhraakellian | and the length as being too small |
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| 01:59.30 | Kasyx | Ah, I think I've found the smallest window size gaim can do, in terms of the IM windows. |
| 02:00.08 | W8TAH | Kasyx: ok - im still lookin at mine |
| 02:00.22 | Kasyx | Oooh, the height was fine. |
| 02:00.24 | Dhraakellian | okay, changed a setting |
| 02:00.29 | Dhraakellian | yay! |
| 02:00.30 | Kasyx | So maybe I messed up my maths on the width |
| 02:00.47 | W8TAH | kool - -and mine might have started workin too -- im not sure |
| 02:00.53 | W8TAH | its kinda lookin like it |
| 02:00.56 | Kasyx | Hehe what was wrong with yours? |
| 02:01.59 | Dhraakellian | okay, so now I just need to go in with krename and rename them all |
| 02:02.07 | Dhraakellian | and then read tags in from the filenames |
| 02:02.28 | W8TAH | Kasyx: i am having problems getting custom notifications in kopete play a sound on a chan message |
| 02:02.37 | W8TAH | i may have found it, but im not sure what i did |
| 02:03.01 | Kasyx | W8TAH: I thought you were looking at your gaim settings though o.o |
| 02:03.21 | W8TAH | i am -- trying to help you --but all of a sudden, the other may have started working |
| 02:03.22 | W8TAH | LOL |
| 02:03.47 | Kasyx | :-D |
| 02:03.48 | Kasyx | How cool |
| 02:03.58 | W8TAH | LOL == ya |
| 02:04.06 | W8TAH | what settings in that file are you lookin at? |
| 02:04.43 | Kasyx | <pref name='conversations'> |
| 02:04.49 | Kasyx | Then under than 'chat' and 'im' |
| 02:05.06 | W8TAH | ok |
| 02:05.58 | W8TAH | i dont have any size settings there at all |
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| 02:11.12 | ryanakca | stupid question: I had found a script thingy for a borderless, menuless, transparent konsole/terminal centered right in the middle of my desktop, behind all windows 6-7 months ago... I can't seem to find it... anybody have a link? |
| 02:12.01 | Ace2016 | is plf still active? and can someone point me to a sources list with a working repo url please, ackages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ doesn't work |
| 02:12.49 | Jucato | ryanakca: no luck in kde-apps.org? |
| 02:14.05 | Renze | wtf is plf? |
| 02:14.34 | ryanakca | Jucato: nope... not yet :( |
| 02:15.13 | Jucato | Renze: penguin liberation front... holds repositories for proprietary formats/codecs that most distros wouldn't host themselves (for legal reasons) |
| 02:15.21 | ryanakca | Renze: I believe it's the french repos for ubuntu |
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| 02:15.25 | Jucato | also hosts some other stuff other than those |
| 02:15.29 | ryanakca | ah, or not :) |
| 02:15.33 | Jucato | :) |
| 02:15.34 | Renze | so why is he asking in #kde? |
| 02:15.48 | Jucato | dunno |
| 02:15.57 | Jucato | case of mistaken channel? :) |
| 02:16.09 | Renze | seems to happen a lot |
| 02:16.18 | Ace2016 | oh man i thought this was #kubuntu :( |
| 02:16.45 | Jucato | not everybody is adept (ugh!) at IRC multitasking... nor is everybody in one channel only :P |
| 02:17.47 | Jucato | dcop sky Sun unhide... |
| 02:18.25 | Renze | dcop clouds rain onJucato |
| 02:19.12 | Jucato | it already is... |
| 02:19.20 | Jucato | just when I'm doing my laundry |
| 02:20.45 | Renze | dcop Phillipines weather setCrappy |
| 02:21.03 | ryanakca | Jucato: nope... nothing on kde-apps... |
| 02:21.50 | Jucato | dcop NewZealand armageddon (true) |
| 02:21.56 | Renze | yay! |
| 02:22.23 | Jucato | ryanakca: not sure of a script, but I think what you want can be done manually through Window Specific Settings/Rules |
| 02:23.15 | Jucato | ryanakca: right-click title bar -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings, afaik |
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| 02:24.52 | ryanakca | lol, Window Settings if for a particular window of a program... Special Applications is for all windows of a program... I think |
| 02:25.09 | ryanakca | wtf... kwin keeps crashing each time I set a window borderless... |
| 02:27.07 | Jucato | hm... that's definitely not normal... |
| 02:27.28 | ryanakca | nope |
| 02:27.38 | ryanakca | Each time I set it fullscreen as well... |
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| 02:28.17 | ryanakca | sure I can go to vt1 and run 'kwin --replace --display :0' every 5 minutes... it just gets annoying |
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| 02:29.35 | Japsu | I want to replicate my Kate colour scheme to another computer but can't find it. Where are Kate schemes stored? |
| 02:30.26 | ryanakca | ~/.kde/share/apps/config/katerc iirc |
| 02:30.33 | Japsu | Nevermind, grep just told me they're in .kde/share/config/kateschemarc |
| 02:30.36 | ryanakca | or somewheres in there... |
| 02:30.45 | ryanakca | lol |
| 02:31.11 | Japsu | I think it'd be better if they were in separate files like Konsole and KDisplay color schemes are :E |
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| 02:32.29 | W8TAH | anyone have custom sound notifications working in the IRC module of Kopete? |
| 02:33.06 | Kasyx | *laugh* Still no luck? |
| 02:33.09 | Japsu | For fsck's sake. It would seem that copying kateschemarc over isn't enough! |
| 02:34.20 | Japsu | Okay, I copied katerc and katesyntaxhighlightingrc over too, and the result is as expected. |
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| 03:17.12 | gioeleb | hello an happy Xmas everyone |
| 03:18.35 | gioeleb | In which module is developed the zeroconf:/ KIO? kdebase? kdenetwork? |
| 03:19.52 | madpenguin8 | Gioeleb: maybe try in #kde-devel |
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| 03:35.09 | ewqewq | 4#expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul4#expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul |
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| 03:38.29 | Dhraakellian | [2006-12-28 22:37:53] [Topic] The channel topic for #expertul is: "#expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul#expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul #expertul" |
| 03:38.45 | Dhraakellian | what a strange little person |
| 03:41.10 | Jucato | tsk tsk tsk.. |
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| 03:42.18 | jago | my soud begins to play but just loops the fisrt 1/4 second how do i fix this? |
| 03:42.32 | jago | it loops indefinately |
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| 03:58.26 | LiquidNerd | jago: which player are you using? |
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| 04:14.20 | Renze | ow! |
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| 04:15.17 | LiquidNerd | well that was random |
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| 04:18.19 | jago | Liquidnerd: it doesnot matter which player i use it appears to be a system glitch |
| 04:18.54 | LiquidNerd | are you using the same file? |
| 04:19.04 | jago | yes |
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| 04:19.47 | jago | i have tried several congurations but do not know the problem |
| 04:24.15 | jago | could it be a problem with my driver? |
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| 04:35.21 | LiquidNerd | it could be a problem with the file |
| 04:35.24 | LiquidNerd | try a different file |
| 04:38.26 | jago | it was actually a cd |
| 04:39.05 | jago | i tried to used the ogg files and they are choppy |
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| 05:19.33 | computer | is there a tutorial on how to use autostart? |
| 05:21.04 | grepper | ~/.kde/Autostart/ you mean ? |
| 05:22.06 | grepper | just put a executable shell script or desktop file in there |
| 05:22.16 | Jucato | ~autostart |
| 05:22.18 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 05:22.19 | grepper | or link |
| 05:25.01 | smoothies | thx alot Jucato, thx alot grepper, sorry i was in another room trying to help out =) |
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| 05:27.17 | smoothies | did any news source say when asian sites are expected to come back on? i really wanna read pirated novels lol |
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| 05:28.38 | worthington | hi all, trying to get mms:// URI's to open in mplayer but cant seem to do so through control center |
| 05:28.44 | worthington | any suggestions |
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| 05:31.27 | Jucato | aseigo: btw, thanks for clarifying the situation about Dolphin and Konqueror. At least us Konqi fanatics/zealots are assured that it won't suddenly go poof :P |
| 05:31.42 | aseigo | Jucato: that's why i posted on the topic =) |
| 05:31.55 | Jucato | :D |
| 05:32.21 | Jucato | although I'm quite sure your words are going to be used to serve whatever purpose some "camps" desire... |
| 05:32.49 | aseigo | what did you see in ubuntuforums? |
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| 05:33.57 | Jucato | the potential start of a flamewar... hopefully not... just your usual "yes, finally they're going to get rid of that bloated swiss army knife, jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none", etc |
| 05:34.08 | aseigo | heh... |
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| 05:34.25 | aseigo | people are so cluelues |
| 05:34.29 | aseigo | +s |
| 05:35.04 | Jucato | yeah... (that includes me, btw. lol) |
| 05:35.06 | gioele | Jucato: pardon, what is Dolphin? |
| 05:35.19 | aseigo | gioele: a file manager |
| 05:35.34 | Jucato | lightweight (imho, afaik) file manager |
| 05:35.39 | Jucato | *KDE* file manager :) |
| 05:35.52 | gioele | meant to replace konqui in KDE4? |
| 05:35.56 | Jucato | http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/ |
| 05:36.18 | aseigo | gioele: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/12/on-oxygen-on-dolphin.html |
| 05:37.59 | Jucato | aseigo: btw, I ran Dolphin on KDE 4 (before I svn up and couldn't build kdepimlibs anymore...), and there were some very nice animations when I drag panels around. is that Dolphin's feature only, or a Qt4 feature? |
| 05:38.44 | gioele | well, I spent weeks explaining (how not to mis-)use konqueror and views. I kinda welcome Dolphin :) |
| 05:39.42 | gioele | Jucato: I wonder how CS students can misuse konquer... but... I happens everyday in my CS lab |
| 05:39.47 | Jucato | I have nothing against Dolphin actually, and I think it's quite nice. It just doesn't suit me... |
| 05:40.19 | Jucato | Konqueror is one of the reasons I use KDE, one of the apps I fell in love with, but I guess it's really due for a makever |
| 05:40.30 | Renze | the ones in my classes were ‒ slow |
| 05:40.54 | Jucato | Renze: if I study C++ by myself, does that put me in the CS students category? :) |
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| 05:41.00 | aseigo | Jucato: qt4 dockwindows |
| 05:41.01 | Renze | Jucato: no |
| 05:41.09 | Jucato | aseigo: kool :) |
| 05:41.25 | gioele | have you ever seen how toolbar-cluttered becomes the IE of clueless users? well my lab is full of ppl with view-cluttered konquerors. and they are used to it. it is annoying but the are used to it so they do not bother to close that mis-opened new split-view |
| 05:42.07 | Jucato | gioele: I think that is where distributors come in, to sort of configure/customize Konqueror in a way that fits their target users |
| 05:42.36 | Jucato | I mean, KDE provides the full, complete, and pure Konqueror. Distros need to "tone it down" a bit |
| 05:42.52 | Jucato | but only to a certain extent, I guess |
| 05:43.00 | gioele | well, the problem is that you can open a new split view and somehow ppl do not understand how to close it |
| 05:43.15 | gioele | do not ask me why, I just started studying HIC :) |
| 05:43.30 | kamesh | its HCI :-) |
| 05:43.31 | Jucato | hm... how do they open a new split view in the first place? |
| 05:43.48 | Jucato | I mean, how they open it is usually the same way they would close it |
| 05:44.00 | Jucato | or at least, it should be |
| 05:44.30 | Jucato | but yeah... Konqueror's UI is a bit... um... messy... :) |
| 05:45.50 | Jucato | does anyone have any idea why it was named Dolphin btw? I still couldn't get the association with Nautilus out of my head... |
| 05:46.40 | gioele | kamesh: I told you I just started :) |
| 05:47.08 | Jucato | gioele: actually, you're partly correct if you meant HIG... so there's HCI and HIG :) |
| 05:47.12 | kamesh | :) I understand |
| 05:48.25 | gioele | Jucato: oh, yeah, that explain why HIC sounded familiar (I spent some time reading the GNOME HIG) |
| 05:49.33 | Jucato | HIG = Human Interface Guidelines; HCI = Human-Computer Interaction |
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| 05:51.20 | gioele | well, IPC in my native language (italian) |
| 05:51.55 | gioele | anyway, while we are on the topic, nobody understand how to use/configure/manage file associations |
| 05:52.21 | Jucato | gioele: sorry, I must have missed your question... |
| 05:52.49 | Jucato | aseigo: um.. last question (before I go), is there, or will there be, any work on improving Konqueror's UI? or are all efforts now focused on Dolphin? reading your blog, I sort of get the impression that Konqueror 4 will basically be the same Konqueror, ported only to KDE 4... |
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| 05:58.27 | resistance | anyone here use two monitors |
| 05:59.02 | resistance | dual desktops |
| 05:59.08 | kamesh | resistance @ could yoou describe your problem |
| 06:00.25 | resistance | i have two monitors hooked up two my debian box, both display the same dekstop, i would like to have different desktops on both so i can multitask |
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| 06:00.56 | resistance | is this possible? |
| 06:04.46 | Jucato | is Dolphin available in branch? |
| 06:05.00 | aseigo | trunk/playground/util/dolphin |
| 06:05.21 | Jucato | aseigo: will it build on KDE 3.5.5? |
| 06:06.18 | Jucato | heh well, only one way to find out :D |
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| 06:06.37 | kamesh | resistance: yes ofcourse you can do that. Have you tried google. What is the distro you are using ? and what version od kde ? |
| 06:06.53 | aseigo | Jucato: that builds on kde4. there's a kde3 release linked on apps.kde.org |
| 06:07.11 | Jucato | aseigo: ah thanks. kinda noticed there were only cmake files :) |
| 06:10.50 | kamesh | for dual/multiple monitors setup, there is a very good how-to here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors |
| 06:11.08 | kamesh | But make sure you have a backup of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf before experimenting |
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| 06:23.46 | freebse | hi, how do I cange the space between Icons on a the dektop (konqueror as well), I canged it one to 4 lines and now I can not get 2 Lines back |
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| 06:31.46 | smoothies | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.36 | Jucato | mouse cursors? http://www.kde-look.org |
| 06:33.43 | smoothies | i didn't find it in that section, i tried typing in "cursor" in the search box but none of them looked like vista ones =) |
| 06:33.54 | smoothies | i meant in that link* |
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| 06:37.23 | kamesh | smoothie : its under the heading "X11 Mouse themes".. Check it our |
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| 06:58.23 | smoothies | i wanna change the background of when konqueror first starts (the blue things) is there a way to do so? i looked at kde-look but i saw only konqueror backgrounds for after that initial screen |
| 06:59.16 | kamesh | smoothies: could you rephrase your question., its difficult to comprehend |
| 06:59.26 | smoothies | sure |
| 07:00.15 | smoothies | i meant: close all konqueror windows if u have any that's open, now start konquer again, that background in konqueror u see right now is the one i wanna change |
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| 07:01.14 | Jucato | smoothies: that about:konqueror page is "controlled" by the css and xml in /usr/share/apps/konqueror/about |
| 07:01.31 | smoothies | o thx alot |
| 07:01.44 | smoothies | i'll look around there first and post questions if i have more, thx :) |
| 07:01.47 | Jucato | er.. css only, I think... |
| 07:01.51 | kamesh | smoothies: Ok. now I understand. Go to Settings -> configure view profiles... There you should find something you are looking for |
| 07:02.15 | Jucato | smoothies: er... unless I completely misunderstood your question... |
| 07:02.16 | smoothies | kamesh: k, *looking there* |
| 07:02.36 | smoothies | Jucato i'll try both, reporting back in a sec |
| 07:02.39 | Jucato | smoothies: do you want to change the initial/startup page that Konqueror displays? |
| 07:03.00 | Jucato | or you just want to change the background of that about:konqueror page? |
| 07:03.31 | smoothies | Jucato: yeah the one that has on the top right corner these words: konquerer, conquer your desktop, and then displays a bunch of icons each corresponding to either trash, storage media, about kubuntu, etc |
| 07:04.04 | Jucato | smoothies: so which of the two do you want to do? change the startup page, or modify the background of the about:konqueror page? |
| 07:04.33 | smoothies | hmm, hehe i'm not sure how the two are different |
| 07:04.51 | Jucato | er.. and I don't have the time right now... gtg |
| 07:04.52 | smoothies | i think i wanna change the startup page |
| 07:04.53 | Jucato | :( |
| 07:04.57 | smoothies | k np =) |
| 07:05.04 | smoothies | thx alot, u helped me alot already, earlier too =) |
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| 07:08.10 | smoothies | kamesh thx alot for you tip, ur method worked flawlessly =) |
| 07:08.26 | smoothies | exactly what i wanted =) thx |
| 07:08.33 | kamesh | Thats great |
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| 07:53.41 | kamva881 | HI all |
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| 07:54.40 | kamva881 | Is the fish:// protocol still activelky being developed.. ?* |
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| 08:18.17 | gioele | re |
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| 08:19.37 | gioele | app request: is there an app that can track the windows I use and report how much time I spend on each one? |
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| 08:21.06 | jose1711 | hello all |
| 08:21.14 | jose1711 | any ideas what to do about this? http://phpfi.com/188803 |
| 08:21.40 | jose1711 | this is what pops up when i plug-in my mp3 (usb generic device) player |
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| 08:22.20 | genjix | hi |
| 08:23.04 | jose1711 | hmm. well actually. there are no file partitions, /dev/sda is a fat32 formatted drive. this could be causing problems |
| 08:23.07 | jose1711 | but how to fix? |
| 08:23.31 | genjix | where can i find some kwrite devs? |
| 08:23.53 | genjix | someone has a syntax colouration file for Jamfiles here: http://crystal.svanfeldt.com/forum/index.php/topic,1446.msg6489.html#msg6489 |
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| 08:26.56 | gioele | genjix: kate mailing-list? |
| 08:27.26 | genjix | can't be bothered to subscribe and unsubscribe when its something small. |
| 08:29.28 | gioele | genjix: I do not think it is a subscribers-only ml. send it anyway. it will be moderated OK by someone |
| 08:29.47 | genjix | ok |
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| 08:33.37 | genjix | gioele, where is it? google blocks everything with 'mail' |
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| 08:36.37 | gioele | genjix: ?? kwrite-devel@kde.org |
| 08:36.42 | genjix | ok |
| 08:37.40 | genjix | no need for the '??', you can just give me the email link |
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| 08:38.40 | kinection | what happens when you set a picture for as the background for a desktop? through kcontrol? |
| 08:38.41 | gioele | genjix: pardon? the address of the ml is kwrite-devel@kde.org |
| 08:38.50 | kinection | is there a place i can check to see if what is actually being set? |
| 08:38.58 | genjix | nevermind. |
| 08:39.09 | kinection | i can't change my wall paper right now, it's stuck, no matter what i change it to. |
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| 08:39.16 | kinection | although renaming the file will turn it into a black desktop |
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| 08:45.50 | illogic-[out] | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.27 | illogic-al | kinection: kill kdesktop then restart it. |
| 08:47.00 | kinection | i've restarted the x server and it didn't do it, although i've found kdesktoprc |
| 08:48.00 | illogic-al | change the wallpaper, then restart kdesktop. |
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| 09:00.13 | cheal | how can I record sound which is playing through aRts? |
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| 09:01.53 | Q-collective | cheal: don't bother |
| 09:03.58 | cheal | Q-collective: what do you mean? |
| 09:04.18 | gioele | Q-collective: :) |
| 09:04.30 | Q-collective | well, there is a wide consensus that arts is a huge pain in the ass |
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| 09:05.15 | cheal | AFAIK it's still KDE's official sound system |
| 09:05.39 | bluelightning | not for kde4 though |
| 09:05.44 | gioele | cheal: try the arts component connector (cannot remember its name), you should be able to connect the main output to a wav file |
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| 09:06.04 | cheal | gioele: ah, artsbuilder maybe |
| 09:06.11 | gioele | cheal: because nobody have the time to work on it anymore; everybody is busy with kde4 |
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| 09:07.02 | Q-collective | gioele: even before everyone was busy with kde4, no-one cared for arts ;) |
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| 09:07.19 | Q-collective | it as been unmaintained for the last 2 to 3 years or something |
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| 09:09.00 | Q-collective | s/as/has/ |
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| 09:11.23 | computer | is there flip 3d type application for kubuntu? |
| 09:11.45 | gioele | Q-collective: well, it was patched every now and then at least ;) |
| 09:11.56 | Q-collective | gioele: really? ;) |
| 09:12.11 | Q-collective | smoothies: like compiz/beryl fun? |
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| 09:15.57 | smoothies | Q-collective ya, having great fun with beryl =) |
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| 09:16.39 | smoothies | do u know where slowness fix option is, inside beryl settings manager? |
| 09:16.51 | smoothies | i wanna toggle it on and off and see if i get improvments |
| 09:17.02 | Q-collective | slowness fix? |
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| 09:17.36 | nukem | would anyone know why kde shows apps from all desktops when using beryl? |
| 09:17.41 | nukem | is this a kde bug or a beryl bug? |
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| 09:20.00 | smoothies | slowness fix is supposed to be an option, i just couldn't find where |
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| 09:22.28 | Moobyfr | nukem: afaik, beryl only use only one desktop, so all apps are shown |
| 09:22.45 | Moobyfr | multiple desktop from beryl aren't seen by kde |
| 09:22.52 | nukem | Moobyfr: is there anyway to fix this? |
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| 09:22.59 | Moobyfr | kde4 ? :) |
| 09:23.09 | Moobyfr | kwin support for composite is needed |
| 09:23.09 | nukem | heh when is that gona be out? |
| 09:23.23 | Moobyfr | not now :) |
| 09:23.44 | nukem | ya, so i guess its pointless filing a bug with kde or beryl? |
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| 09:25.10 | Q-collective | [10:23:13] <Moobyfr> kwin support for composite is needed |
| 09:25.17 | Q-collective | you know about kompmgr, right? |
| 09:25.42 | Q-collective | nukem: you can file a bug about it at beryl |
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| 09:26.15 | nukem | so its beryl's fault? |
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| 09:27.03 | Q-collective | probably |
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| 10:01.13 | markey | ~confess |
| 10:01.19 | markey | ooops |
| 10:01.23 | markey | wrong chan |
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| 10:19.01 | MilhousePunkRock | hello everyone |
| 10:19.15 | MilhousePunkRock | how do i run "kbuildsyscoca"? |
| 10:19.34 | pinotree | open a console |
| 10:19.40 | pinotree | type 'kbuildsycoca' |
| 10:19.43 | MilhousePunkRock | If it's just the command on the shell, what's it part of, I might not be having it |
| 10:19.44 | pinotree | and press Enter |
| 10:20.03 | dizzy | :) |
| 10:20.05 | MilhousePunkRock | pinotree: That's not working, says "command not found" |
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| 10:20.16 | MilhousePunkRock | I was smart enough to try that myself already... |
| 10:20.19 | pinotree | MilhousePunkRock: then your kde installation is broken |
| 10:20.41 | pinotree | kbuildsycoca is a _fundamental_ componet |
| 10:20.42 | MilhousePunkRock | pinotree: Might I not just be missing it? I have a very slim KDE here... |
| 10:20.42 | pinotree | +n |
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| 10:21.04 | pinotree | it's part of the kde libraries themselves |
| 10:21.24 | dizzy | can someone tell me how to get back that tiny window with 4 desktops on a panel? i hide it and can't get it back :( |
| 10:21.41 | MilhousePunkRock | Because after I swapped from monolithic KDE to kde-base/startkde (on Gentoo that is) Kopete has lost its plugins |
| 10:21.57 | pinotree | ~split-ebuilds |
| 10:22.02 | apt | If you didn't build the whole of a KDE module, we can't offer support. See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110806759516927&w=2 for the reason. Try #gentoo if you don't want to install the full KDE module. |
| 10:22.09 | dizzy | desktop switcher? |
| 10:22.25 | MilhousePunkRock | And the Kopete page says I need to run kbuildsyscoca to get them back |
| 10:22.48 | pinotree | dizzy: right click on the panel -> add applet - deskop preview ... |
| 10:22.52 | MilhousePunkRock | pinotree: I already have the smallest possible KDE, I only wonder why kbuildsyscoca is not there |
| 10:23.03 | pinotree | because your installation is broken |
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| 10:23.24 | pinotree | ripping randomly pieces is _not_ the way |
| 10:23.36 | dizzy | pinotree: not this one, the one in which a can choose one of 4 desktops |
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| 10:23.56 | MilhousePunkRock | pinotree: I wasn't ripping random pieces, I had help from #gentoo when I performed the installation |
| 10:23.56 | pinotree | dizzy: that's one of the two... |
| 10:23.57 | dizzy | i can't find it in applets |
| 10:24.04 | gioele | MilhousePunkRock: what about recompiling kopete? |
| 10:24.21 | gioele | I have the split ebuilds as well and kopete worked fine |
| 10:24.44 | new_p | i want to ask something very simple about Konqueror ( it is simple but i cannot seem to find a way to do it ) it will only take a couple of minutes . If enyone interested in helping me please msg me |
| 10:24.50 | MilhousePunkRock | gioele: That might be an option, will try once the Amarok update is through |
| 10:25.06 | MilhousePunkRock | new_p: Just ask |
| 10:25.07 | pinotree | new_p: no |
| 10:25.32 | MilhousePunkRock | IRC rule # 2: Don't ask to ask, just ask... |
| 10:26.37 | new_p | i now it is a silly question ... how can i shrink the Location toolbar in konqueror ? ( silly ah ) |
| 10:27.13 | MilhousePunkRock | new_p: Make the icons smaller... KControl --> Appearance --> Icons |
| 10:28.02 | dizzy | pinotree: i found it! thanks :) |
| 10:28.22 | Anakin | how can I enable xgl in KDE ? |
| 10:28.26 | pinotree | dizzy: or, there's also alt+f2 , kpager |
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| 10:29.10 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: What distro? |
| 10:29.21 | Anakin | frugalware 0.5 siwenna with KDE 3.5.4 |
| 10:29.25 | Anakin | sorry for that :) |
| 10:29.38 | new_p | thnks Milhouse it worked but it is not what i wanted . It is my mistake let me rephrase my question: is there a way to fit the main and the location toolbar in one line ? |
| 10:29.50 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: You are probably better off asking in your distro's channel, it's not KDE specific... |
| 10:29.55 | Anakin | i forgot about the topic i'm in a little hurry...I installed xgl and it went fine...do I need something more ? |
| 10:30.48 | MilhousePunkRock | new_p: You can always right click on the tool bar and see what customization it offers there... Tried drag'n'drop already? |
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| 10:31.06 | benJIman | new_p: yeah you can do that easily |
| 10:31.12 | benJIman | I have them on one line |
| 10:31.29 | new_p | benJlman : how u do that ? |
| 10:31.31 | Anakin | MilhousePunkRock: do I need to install more stuff besides xgl ? |
| 10:31.35 | benJIman | new_p: just drag onto the same line |
| 10:31.48 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: You probably want beryl or compiz... |
| 10:31.56 | benJIman | alternatively if you want it to work while really small too you can put them both on the same toolbar |
| 10:32.19 | Anakin | 10x I'll search for it |
| 10:32.45 | Anakin | on my channel distro nobody's respondig right now, maybe they are asleep :)) |
| 10:32.49 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: Did you check your fps with that gears thingy prior and after xgl? That might be a good indicator if it's working |
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| 10:33.01 | new_p | benJIman: did the drag n drop but they don't merge in the same line i'll keep trying ;) |
| 10:33.12 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: Pick a more popular distro then... ;-) #gentoo never sleeps... :-P |
| 10:33.38 | Anakin | MilhousePunkRock: I'm downloading xgl and its dependencies right now via pacman.... |
| 10:33.51 | Anakin | do I need to enable something in order to work ? |
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| 10:34.08 | benJIman | new_p: they won't if you have long things in the history |
| 10:34.33 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: You will have so tweak some stuff in the xorg.conf and you will probably need the appropriate driver for your video card |
| 10:34.47 | new_p | i don't have just installed from scratch |
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| 10:35.20 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: Crucial stuff like that shouldn't be done in a hurry though... |
| 10:35.34 | Anakin | MilhousePunkRock: I have the appropriate driver for my video card installed and enabled (I have NVIDIA card and 9631) |
| 10:35.58 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: Why xgl then and not NvidiaGL? |
| 10:36.02 | Anakin | ok MilhousePunkRock thanks...I'll look into it when I get back home...in 5 days or so |
| 10:36.14 | new_p | Anakin : try Beryl |
| 10:36.28 | Anakin | MilhousePunkRock: I have no idea...I"ve heard about this yesterday from a friend :) |
| 10:36.41 | Anakin | new_p: it's downloading as we speak |
| 10:36.53 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: So you skipped step one? An explicit google research? |
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| 10:37.23 | Anakin | MilhousePunkRock: you're right, my hurry prevented me to do that...I'll do it I promise :) |
| 10:37.28 | Anakin | sorry for all the questions |
| 10:37.30 | eilker | hi to all, i need a download manager for kde. |
| 10:37.41 | new_p | kget is one |
| 10:37.46 | Anakin | kget is the best :) |
| 10:37.55 | Jucato | KGet? |
| 10:38.02 | Jucato | kget is the only one (for KDE...) |
| 10:38.14 | MilhousePunkRock | Anakin: You might even find useful info on your distro's wiki pages |
| 10:38.46 | eilker | i need sth for big downloads, may be it will take 2-3 days |
| 10:39.01 | Jucato | no problem with kget, afaik |
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| 10:39.51 | eilker | jucato: what happens, if i shut down pc , will it continue at next boot too ? |
| 10:39.58 | Jucato | yep |
| 10:40.13 | eilker | thanx |
| 10:41.13 | eilker | jucato: what about wget ? does it do same job ? |
| 10:41.26 | Jucato | wget is a CLI download manager |
| 10:41.41 | eilker | !CLI |
| 10:41.45 | Jucato | I'm not sure if/how it supports resuming downloads |
| 10:41.51 | Jucato | eilker: CLI = Command Line Interface |
| 10:41.59 | eilker | i see thank you |
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| 10:48.39 | smoothies | i downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, lol where did it go? thx |
| 10:51.00 | pinotree | smoothies: wrong channel? |
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| 10:51.14 | smoothies | why |
| 10:51.26 | smoothies | i thought this was anything kde |
| 10:51.44 | pinotree | ??? |
| 10:51.51 | smoothies | ? |
| 10:52.23 | pinotree | installing debs is a distro-based task |
| 10:52.37 | smoothies | but i'm installing it on my kubuntu |
| 10:52.45 | smoothies | where should this question go then |
| 10:52.51 | pinotree | in #kubuntu |
| 10:52.51 | smoothies | cuz people referred me here |
| 10:52.56 | smoothies | ... |
| 10:53.08 | smoothies | let me retry |
| 10:53.15 | smoothies | i downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, lol where did it go? |
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| 10:53.22 | pinotree | te me explain |
| 10:53.32 | smoothies | yeah we don't need that lol |
| 10:53.35 | pinotree | this is NOT the channel for DISTRO question |
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| 10:53.47 | smoothies | u could chill on the sideline there lol |
| 10:54.12 | pinotree | in your question, i don't see anything related to kde, if not just the 'k' in the name of the distro |
| 10:54.44 | smoothies | right, and how is this helping? |
| 10:54.45 | smoothies | besides u being in a help channel |
| 10:54.45 | pinotree | sigh |
| 10:54.59 | pinotree | we don't offer help for _any_ distro |
| 10:55.12 | smoothies | lol "we"? who's we besides u |
| 10:55.23 | pinotree | hmm the whole channel? |
| 10:55.30 | smoothies | i don't see anyone second'ing what ur saying, if ur not helping, just don't type |
| 10:55.49 | smoothies | if u have nothing to do, look up answer for me ok? |
| 10:56.01 | pinotree | SIGH |
| 10:56.02 | smoothies | if u don't wanna do that, then stop typing pointless remarks lol |
| 10:56.14 | pinotree | don't be mean |
| 10:56.21 | smoothies | lol right, do tell urself that |
| 10:56.32 | pinotree | please ask in right channel, and don't insist |
| 10:56.35 | smoothies | better yet, go to #kubuntu and argue with the people who referred me here |
| 10:56.45 | pinotree | i won't go there |
| 10:56.54 | smoothies | yeah go bark in the right channel lol |
| 10:57.03 | smoothies | we don't need u here |
| 10:57.18 | pinotree | are you insulting me? |
| 10:57.19 | smoothies | and now to restart |
| 10:57.26 | smoothies | no we don't need to try, ur doing that urself lol |
| 10:57.36 | smoothies | hi, i downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, lol where did it go? |
| 10:57.45 | pinotree | lol lol lol is that the only thing you can say?? |
| 10:58.03 | smoothies | well it beats starting a conversation that doesn't go anywhere, now doesn't it |
| 10:58.30 | pinotree | wwll you started it |
| 10:58.45 | smoothies | don't be childish, u can stop it now by stoping to type right |
| 10:58.51 | smoothies | ur not helping, don't be in any help channels then |
| 10:59.12 | pinotree | you're not helping either |
| 10:59.30 | pinotree | if people start asking question in random channel, how are people supposed to help? |
| 10:59.32 | smoothies | lmao, i'm asking for help moron |
| 10:59.55 | pinotree | the right channel for _your_ help _is_ #kubuntu |
| 10:59.59 | smoothies | this is the channel i was referred to, go bark ur ass off in #kubuntu at everyone that said this was the right channel |
| 11:00.14 | smoothies | go argue with "pros" ok |
| 11:00.16 | pinotree | if they lie, it's not my fault |
| 11:00.30 | smoothies | then rest in piece and chill on the side |
| 11:00.39 | pinotree | then stop insulting |
| 11:00.49 | pinotree | and ASK in the RIGHT channel |
| 11:00.51 | smoothies | lol u feel insulted? |
| 11:00.58 | pinotree | you did |
| 11:01.01 | smoothies | hi, i downloaded splashy deb pack, right clicked and installed it, now i can't find it, where did it go? |
| 11:01.04 | smoothies | hush puppy |
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| 11:02.01 | pinotree | rule #3 of irc: NEVER insult the channel operator |
| 11:02.52 | smoothies | lol rule #1: this is all u could desperately do isn't it |
| 11:02.59 | smoothies | lose an argument and oopsies |
| 11:03.16 | smoothies | it only goes to show how desperate u were =) |
| 11:03.20 | pinotree | why can't you just ask in the right channel |
| 11:03.23 | pinotree | why? |
| 11:03.34 | smoothies | read this: I DID U FUCKINNG RETARD |
| 11:03.35 | pinotree | why just insist on your ideas |
| 11:03.39 | smoothies | and i was referred here |
| 11:03.50 | pinotree | THIS IS WRONG FUCKING IDITO OF MY ASS |
| 11:03.54 | smoothies | WHY DON"T U GO IN KUBUNTU CHANNEL AND GET KICKED OUTTA THERE FOR BEING STUPID |
| 11:04.07 | *** mode/#kde [+b smoothies!*@*] by pinotree |
| 11:04.07 | *** kick/#kde [smoothies!n=pino@kde/developer/pino] by pinotree (bye) |
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| 11:04.15 | pinotree | bah |
| 11:04.26 | MilhousePunkRock | lol |
| 11:05.05 | pinotree | just for the curiosity: am i the only one that thinks that distro question should be ask in distro channel? |
| 11:05.34 | MilhousePunkRock | well, i already experienced how strict you stick to this policy here, but in general, i agree |
| 11:06.30 | MilhousePunkRock | it's a shame what happened to kubuntu though |
| 11:06.53 | pinotree | if people would start asking here questions like "ehy i destoyed my xxx (== name of a distro) installation, how can i revert?" "how can i install the package xxx?" |
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| 11:07.01 | pinotree | the the distro channel would be pointless |
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| 11:08.20 | MilhousePunkRock | OT: #kubuntu isn't that helpful anymore though, since it seems all the gurus disappeared when edgy was released |
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| 11:08.46 | MilhousePunkRock | On the other hand, how to install a deb-package is really not a KDE question |
| 11:08.49 | Q-collective | so much for a solid community |
| 11:09.08 | pinotree | MilhousePunkRock: really? so the channel seems dead? |
| 11:09.12 | MilhousePunkRock | Q-collective: It's only my impression though... |
| 11:10.00 | MilhousePunkRock | pinotree: Not dead, but the people who used to help out aren't there anymore... Now it's semi-noobs trying to help the noobs, based on assumptions not knowledge... |
| 11:10.23 | MilhousePunkRock | Every second question is "How can I install beryl" anyway... ;-) |
| 11:10.34 | pinotree | hmmm... and #ubuntu? |
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| 11:10.43 | MilhousePunkRock | Never been there... |
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| 11:14.51 | hacosta | hi, i cant get the habdles on the taskbar to move an applet |
| 11:15.11 | hacosta | the panel isnt locked btw |
| 11:15.37 | pinotree | does it work if you right-click on an handle and select Move? |
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| 11:16.25 | hacosta | pinotree: yes, but the taskbar doesnt have that option |
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| 11:17.03 | olegfink | can you suggest me a flat deco style? |
| 11:17.11 | hacosta | i was recently playing with things at kcontrol, so perhaps theres a setting there or something |
| 11:18.13 | pinotree | hacosta: there is, kcontrol -> desktop -> panels -> look -> advanced options -> applet handle |
| 11:18.27 | pinotree | maybe you did hide them? |
| 11:18.47 | hacosta | look? |
| 11:18.58 | pinotree | the last tab |
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| 11:19.11 | hacosta | yayy thanks |
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| 11:19.36 | MilhousePunkRock | olegfink: I think there is one called "flat" along with matching icons |
| 11:19.49 | pinotree | olegfink: flat as in no hover effects on buttons? or no 3d effects? |
| 11:19.51 | hacosta | whats the point in having that option if i can lock the taskbar? |
| 11:20.27 | pinotree | the locking option is more related to kiosk, iirc |
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| 11:20.41 | hacosta | oh well |
| 11:20.45 | hacosta | thanks pinotree |
| 11:21.00 | pinotree | and the locking option locks also the other panel elements |
| 11:21.04 | pinotree | like buttons |
| 11:21.16 | olegfink | pinotree: yes, absoulutely flat with no 3d effects |
| 11:21.23 | MilhousePunkRock | Who suggested reinstalling Kopete earlier? |
| 11:21.41 | MilhousePunkRock | Looks like I did not set the USE flags that might be needed for the plug-ins |
| 11:22.03 | pinotree | MilhousePunkRock: a guy with nick 'gioele' |
| 11:22.07 | pinotree | (that has left) |
| 11:22.51 | pinotree | olegfink: did you look for 'flat' in kde-look.org, windeco section? maybe there's something nice for you there... |
| 11:22.54 | MilhousePunkRock | well, as i compiled it with -nowplaying, it's not a surprise the "Now playing" plug-in is not there, is it? ;-) |
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| 11:23.10 | pinotree | MilhousePunkRock: .... indeed :D |
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| 11:24.08 | pinotree | :S |
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| 11:36.09 | pinotree | 'lo WindowsUninstall |
| 11:36.14 | Kasyx | Morning all |
| 11:36.35 | WindowsUninstall | Hi pinotree |
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| 11:37.12 | WindowsUninstall | pinotree, OMG: 100% /home |
| 11:37.14 | WindowsUninstall | :/ |
| 11:37.31 | WindowsUninstall | pinotree, I will install kde4 on my var |
| 11:37.40 | pinotree | :) |
| 11:39.27 | WindowsUninstall | pinotree, Where Is kde4 how-to? |
| 11:39.40 | pinotree | http://developer.kde.org/build/trunk.html |
| 11:40.00 | pinotree | if you ask in #kde-www there's also the new version on the new developer wiki |
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| 11:41.21 | kim0 | weirdo ... kmail is not sending any emails!! They're just waiting in the outbox!! Even if I "File > Send queued messages"!! |
| 11:41.43 | MilhousePunkRock | kim0: Maybe your server needs pop before smtp? |
| 11:41.51 | kim0 | yes it does |
| 11:42.00 | kim0 | but kmail is not even trying to connect |
| 11:42.06 | kim0 | and I did pop before |
| 11:42.38 | pinotree | maybe you put yourself in offline mode? |
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| 11:44.01 | kim0 | If I "Send queued via" it tries to connect |
| 11:44.11 | kim0 | If I just "Send queued" it doesnt do anything |
| 11:44.27 | kim0 | I only have one smtp account! |
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| 11:46.11 | kim0 | any ideas ?! |
| 11:48.36 | WindowsUninstall | pinotree, Need I two user: one for kde's soruce code and one for kde's build. |
| 11:48.38 | WindowsUninstall | ? |
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| 11:49.07 | pinotree | WindowsUninstall: why? |
| 11:49.18 | WindowsUninstall | You will want to create a separate user for working with svn code. This will allow you to compile and run code from the repository without destroying your stable KDE setup: |
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| 11:51.54 | kim0 | 4.3.0 Message held for human verification before permitting delivery. For help, please quote incident ID 4890867 |
| 11:52.02 | kim0 | never seen a server say that before! |
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| 12:11.27 | Jucato | moin annma! |
| 12:12.14 | LanCome | good evening~ |
| 12:12.40 | Jucato | annma: catch you in a while... need to rearrange my room :D |
| 12:13.25 | annma | hi! |
| 12:13.40 | LanCome | annma, hello~:) |
| 12:13.41 | annma | good <insert_proper_time> |
| 12:14.08 | LanCome | here is now evening~ |
| 12:14.15 | annma | :) |
| 12:14.41 | LanCome | :) |
| 12:14.45 | annma | Australia? |
| 12:15.02 | LanCome | no |
| 12:15.26 | LanCome | korea~ |
| 12:15.58 | LanCome | south korea~ |
| 12:16.50 | annma | wow |
| 12:17.03 | LanCome | do u know south korea~? |
| 12:17.53 | annma | no, I never went there |
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| 12:18.08 | annma | I never went in Asia in fact |
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| 12:21.53 | LanCome | hmm... |
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| 12:23.41 | LanCome | annma, where are you from~? |
| 12:23.52 | annma | I live in France right now |
| 12:24.03 | LanCome | wow!! |
| 12:24.06 | annma | I lived in Canada a few months ago |
| 12:24.24 | LanCome | i wanna live in france..T-T |
| 12:24.47 | annma | not easy for an immigrant |
| 12:24.57 | annma | no country is easy for immigrants |
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| 12:26.06 | LanCome | hmm.... |
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| 12:27.26 | bluelightning | I'd like to think New Zealand is a little easier than most... then again I was only 7 when I moved here |
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| 12:27.53 | LanCome | T-T |
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| 12:43.24 | LanCome | my english is not god..T-T |
| 12:43.37 | LanCome | i want to study english |
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| 12:48.38 | smileaf | Jucato: morning. |
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| 12:49.25 | Jucato | smileaf: moin smileaf! :) |
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| 12:51.10 | Jucato | smileaf: a cosmic anomaly :) |
| 12:51.44 | smileaf | 3 days ago I noticed my battery operated alarm clock by my bed was off (don't remember by how much) So I synced it with my laptop's clock and went to bed. |
| 12:52.10 | smileaf | woke up got ready got to the car and noticed I was already late, by 15 minutes. |
| 12:52.17 | Jucato | :O |
| 12:52.53 | Jucato | that cannot be good... |
| 12:53.11 | smileaf | So I get home and notice that my laptop's clock was 15 minutes off. so I sync it and before bed I sync my alarm clock again to the laptop. |
| 12:53.20 | smileaf | same thing only this time I was 30 minutes late |
| 12:54.03 | smileaf | so I synced yet again, synced my alarm clock and today they are both fine... |
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| 12:54.24 | Jucato | fu |
| 12:54.45 | Jucato | faulty batteries? |
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| 12:54.46 | smileaf | Jucato: but why would my laptop's be off also, and the exact same amount off? |
| 12:55.01 | Jucato | like I said... cosmic anomaly :P |
| 12:55.07 | smileaf | x.x |
| 12:56.07 | smileaf | Jucato: oh.. my 3 other clocks in this room were always exactly on time ==p |
| 12:56.32 | Jucato | hehe |
| 12:59.55 | smileaf | hmm... what to do >.> |
| 13:00.20 | Jucato | hm... don't use that clock and use the other 3? |
| 13:00.36 | smileaf | I mean in general, I'm bored =p |
| 13:00.47 | Jucato | aaah |
| 13:01.02 | Jucato | if only you could help me clean my room :P |
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| 13:01.28 | smileaf | I do have a corner of around 10+ boxes that I probably should sort and organize. |
| 13:01.58 | smileaf | been putting it off for 2 years =) |
| 13:02.58 | Jucato | hahah |
| 13:03.05 | Jucato | you're definitely worse than me :P |
| 13:03.14 | Jucato | I mean, in a worse situation |
| 13:03.31 | smileaf | I'm living in a basement, so not my perminate residence. So I just never fully unpacked. |
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| 13:03.52 | Jucato | ooh... |
| 13:04.11 | Jucato | I leave in a.. um... well, it's not a storage room, but it's the smallest room (next to the bathroom...) |
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| 13:04.30 | smileaf | a few of those boxes are empty :) |
| 13:04.50 | smileaf | unfinished basement ;) |
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| 13:05.08 | smileaf | no carpet, brick walls. no inside walls. |
| 13:05.19 | Jucato | oh |
| 13:06.39 | smileaf | where all my boxes are is where I don't have an area rug. So my feet get cold. thats my excuse #1 =) |
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| 13:07.28 | smileaf | depends on the amount of time I spend thinking =p |
| 13:08.32 | Jucato | :P |
| 13:08.47 | Jucato | ok I really need to get to work... |
| 13:09.13 | Jucato | (sorting out my stuff...) |
| 13:09.35 | smileaf | I think I'll make a tiny dent today :/ |
| 13:09.54 | smileaf | after I make a playlist =) |
| 13:10.11 | Jucato | heh |
| 13:10.20 | Jucato | just want to start the new year fresh |
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| 13:10.54 | Jucato | which means I'll be reformatting and/or reinstalling something next week. lol |
| 13:13.25 | Jucato | smileaf: what's the status of your autostart app? |
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| 13:35.45 | genjix | hi |
| 13:37.14 | setog3 | does exist a kde translator, that I can combine with klipper, to translate word that I select from english to french .. I see kdewordtrans.. but don't do exactly what I want |
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| 13:50.00 | annma | setog3: I have a think called KTranslator but it's not good |
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| 13:59.40 | ryanakca | ehow would I have a window in KDE on desktops 10 and 11? All I've managed to do is to put it on all desktops, or just one... |
| 14:02.32 | Jucato | ryanakca: that I would want to know as well :) |
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| 14:09.04 | paoleela | How can I set a file to utf8? When I open a file in kile it's opened as iso8859-15 but it's actually utf8 |
| 14:09.36 | paoleela | When I switch to utf8 everything is fine but also if I save the file it doesn't remember next time. |
| 14:10.51 | annma | well i don't know Kile |
| 14:11.06 | annma | but in Kate you set a default encoding |
| 14:11.16 | annma | for ex I set default as utf8 |
| 14:11.40 | annma | if I want to open an iso8859-1 I have to set it when I open the file |
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| 14:11.47 | annma | it'll be saved then as iso |
| 14:12.01 | annma | not sure if Kile use a Katepart |
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| 14:12.53 | annma | Kile sets default to utf8 for me |
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| 14:16.08 | apolo | hola |
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| 14:29.06 | viktor | Where do I change the keyboard layout in kde_ |
| 14:29.34 | Moobyfr | kcontrol |
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| 14:30.00 | Moobyfr | regional settings and accessibilité |
| 14:30.01 | Kasyx | Moobyfr: hehe maybe that should be in the topic: "If in doubt, kcontrol" :-D |
| 14:30.08 | Moobyfr | -> keyboard |
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| 14:30.58 | smileaf | Jucato: released a new version not too long ago for that. |
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| 14:31.39 | Jucato | smileaf: nice! any hope of that being included into KControl 4? |
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| 14:32.51 | annma | Katapult? |
| 14:33.37 | smileaf | Jucato: dunno, not really asked. Tho I've not had any negative feedback at all about it. |
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| 14:33.59 | Jucato | smileaf: what negative feedback could there possibly be? :P |
| 14:34.15 | lynxlynxlynx | what are you talking about guys? |
| 14:34.16 | annma | is it katapult? |
| 14:34.28 | Jucato | annma: smileaf's autostart app |
| 14:34.36 | annma | what name? |
| 14:34.57 | annma | I think i saw recently smileaf name in an app but i don't remember which |
| 14:35.01 | Jucato | Autostart Manager: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45975 |
| 14:35.12 | Jucato | annma: smileaf also made the kdm theme manager (kdmtheme) |
| 14:35.19 | ryanakca | Jucato: lol |
| 14:35.36 | annma | cool |
| 14:35.38 | annma | smileaf ++ |
| 14:35.45 | Jucato | ryanakca: if you ever find an answer to your question, please do let me know :D |
| 14:35.57 | ryanakca | will do |
| 14:36.25 | Jucato | smileaf: from the screenshot in KDE-Apps, I'm guessing you're using the Serenity style |
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| 14:37.28 | gdiebel | can I make Konqueror follow the working directory as I move about in the terminal emulator? the opposite works, but it would be really nice to have the icon view with previews as well |
| 14:37.51 | lynxlynxlynx | maybe with some dcop magic |
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| 14:40.10 | Jucato | wb Sho_ |
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| 14:42.15 | smileaf | Jucato: correct |
| 14:42.59 | smileaf | I'm half done with that corner now ;) |
| 14:43.33 | Jucato | lol just finished... now I need to take a well-deserved bath... and plan for cleaning up my PC next :) |
| 14:44.36 | smileaf | well I should say I'm half done going through that corner.. no where near done finding a home for everything. I can't see my bed and a good portion of my floor =) |
| 14:48.10 | Dark_Apostrophe | How do I change the default wine binary from /usr/local/bin/wine to /usr/lib/wine? |
| 14:49.13 | apolo | hello I need to synchronize iso somebody can help me? |
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| 14:49.36 | annma | Dark_Apostrophe: simlink? but it's better to keep it in /bin |
| 14:49.43 | Dr_willis | Dark_Apostrophe, you sure /usr/lib/wine is the binary? or that just the pasth to the binary? |
| 14:50.06 | annma | apolo: synchronize iso? that does not seem related to kde |
| 14:50.18 | Dark_Apostrophe | Dr_willis: It's the binary. The /usr/local version is an older compilation, the /usr one is a new one that I compiled yesterday with --prefix=/usr |
| 14:51.16 | smileaf | should have uninstalled the old first. |
| 14:51.39 | Dr_willis | rename the other, and set up a symlink perhaps with 'ln -s' i agree with smileaf however. |
| 14:52.05 | smileaf | and what do you mean by 'default'? I assume you have associated .exe to wine? |
| 14:52.10 | Dark_Apostrophe | smileaf: If I had its source, I would |
| 14:52.11 | Dr_willis | you could of uninstalled the other. and just set your path to use the /usr/local/whatever one. |
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| 14:53.12 | apolo | annma were I can find it? |
| 14:53.54 | smileaf | Dark_Apostrophe: there's always the rm command ;) |
| 14:53.54 | Dark_Apostrophe | smileaf: Just employed it. :) |
| 14:53.54 | annma | what is your distro and what do you mean by synchronize iso apolo ? |
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| 14:56.23 | apolo | annma: suse |
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| 14:56.53 | apolo | in his page find a server with sync |
| 14:57.16 | annma | ask in #suse, i don't understand what you need apolo |
| 14:58.41 | apolo | ok annma tanks |
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| 15:21.54 | lynxlynxlynx | gdiebel: the problem is you easily get into an infinite loop |
| 15:22.26 | lynxlynxlynx | since when the konqueror url changes, the one in the console part does the same |
| 15:23.16 | annma | besides the purpose of the konsole is not to drive konq |
| 15:24.29 | lynxlynxlynx | it is easier done with an outside konsole |
| 15:24.47 | annma | yes |
| 15:24.54 | lynxlynxlynx | wasn't there a seasons of kde project focusing on glueing windows? |
| 15:25.27 | lynxlynxlynx | gdiebel: something in lines of: cd(){ builtin cd $1; dcop konqueror-3735 konqueror-mainwindow#2 openURL $1; } |
| 15:25.55 | lynxlynxlynx | but you have to figure out which window :/ |
| 15:27.19 | gdiebel | lynxlynxlynx: thanks for the insights. perhaps I need to think more about the usability of something like this |
| 15:28.08 | lynxlynxlynx | yeah, just ditch konqi |
| 15:28.36 | Jucato | :O |
| 15:28.45 | lynxlynxlynx | or open a new konsole each time via the action menu |
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| 16:05.52 | StingRay | Hi. Is there a way that I modify the kde login choices? I want to remove some safety console options. |
| 16:06.24 | Kasyx | You mean in kdm? |
| 16:06.45 | StingRay | yes |
| 16:07.34 | StingRay | I have some options like "safety konsole", "gnome" and some others. I want to get rid off some items. |
| 16:07.49 | pinotree | StingRay: kde control center -> system administation -> login manager is the kd configuration |
| 16:09.07 | StingRay | Probably its my distro problem, but I did not find the menu options there. |
| 16:09.28 | Kasyx | StingRay: you can also edit /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
| 16:09.35 | StingRay | I am using Kubuntu and I have only system settings. |
| 16:09.39 | Kasyx | If that's the right path |
| 16:09.42 | StingRay | I will check this file right away |
| 16:09.59 | StingRay | Kasyx, thanks in advance. |
| 16:10.08 | StingRay | I will find it np |
| 16:10.11 | Kasyx | Ah yes, right path |
| 16:10.24 | Kasyx | There are other settings in that config directory for kdm, it might not just be the rc |
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| 16:11.14 | StingRay | can you give me a clue what to search for just in case it is in some other file? |
| 16:11.44 | Kasyx | StingRay: I don't know I'm afraid, I only edit that for the theme cause the kcontrol didn't work properly for my root privileges. |
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| 16:12.13 | StingRay | This is pretty enough. Thanks again, Kasyx! |
| 16:12.14 | Kasyx | Lemme have a wee look though, see what I can see |
| 16:12.42 | Kasyx | What are you trying to do? |
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| 16:14.53 | StingRay | I am trying to cutoff gnome users to login locally |
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| 16:15.16 | Kasyx | StingRay: What do you mean? It would go to the console login? |
| 16:15.54 | StingRay | Where is this option? |
| 16:16.05 | Jucato | :O |
| 16:16.28 | Kasyx | What do you want your gnome users to see if they choose gnome from the possible sessions? |
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| 16:17.13 | StingRay | I want noboty to be able to login via gnome locally. |
| 16:17.26 | StingRay | I have freenx. Remotely is OK. |
| 16:17.44 | StingRay | I guess kdmrc will do the trick |
| 16:17.59 | Kasyx | Oh that's fairly easy |
| 16:18.10 | Kasyx | Yeah, just need to remove gnome from the list of possible sessions. |
| 16:18.12 | StingRay | on ubuntu it is in /etc/kde3/kdm |
| 16:18.17 | Kasyx | No idea how you'd do that I'm afraid :-D |
| 16:18.46 | StingRay | :), i hope there will be an option in kdmrc |
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| 16:22.39 | Jucato | StingRay: not sure if it's relevant... /usr/share/xsessions/ |
| 16:23.15 | StingRay | I will check this out too. Thanks, Jucato. |
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| 16:27.42 | kumbayo | Hi, is there a way to enter a bug at bugs.kde.org without using that wizzard? |
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| 16:28.10 | pinotree | kumbayo: no |
| 16:28.17 | kumbayo | arghhh |
| 16:28.32 | Kasyx | The wizard is there to make sure the bug is structured correctly, am I right? |
| 16:28.38 | pinotree | not only |
| 16:29.02 | pinotree | the wizard makes you also look for duplicates |
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| 16:29.43 | pinotree | kumbayo: what's the problem with that? |
| 16:29.45 | Jucato | it also makes sure that the necessary information is included (I actually like that...) |
| 16:30.20 | pinotree | Jucato: if you do Help -> report a bug, usually all the informations are there |
| 16:30.50 | Jucato | pinotree: yeah. although I seldom use that and go directly to bugs.kde.org :) |
| 16:31.00 | Q-collective | how to configure your webcam in kde? |
| 16:31.47 | kumbayo | pinotree: i hate it, i have to click continue hundred times, even when i exactly know what i want to enter |
| 16:32.12 | pinotree | kumbayo: are you even sure that your bug is new, ie not reported already? |
| 16:32.44 | kumbayo | yes i searched about bugs for callgrind and there are exactly 3 ones open and i have SVN from today :-) |
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| 16:32.53 | pinotree | ok |
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| 17:19.54 | Q-collective | what command to use again to manually change the resolution? |
| 17:20.06 | Q-collective | I forgot the name of this small X utility >_< |
| 17:20.20 | illogic-al | xrandr |
| 17:20.23 | Q-collective | ty |
| 17:20.42 | illogic-al | yw |
| 17:22.01 | Moobyfr | krandrtray :) |
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| 17:25.14 | Nathan1993 | Check it out: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ |
| 17:25.22 | Nathan1993 | KDE uses less memory than Gnome |
| 17:26.03 | Nathan1993 | But when you get apps in, KDE uses more... |
| 17:26.08 | Nathan1993 | but that's just those apps |
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| 17:27.20 | Q-collective | wow, I thought xfce would be a lot lighter |
| 17:27.34 | Q-collective | so much for that myth |
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| 17:29.03 | Nathan1993 | with firefox it's about 28 megabytes less than KDE though |
| 17:29.21 | olegfink | 'coz FF uses gtk afaik? |
| 17:29.34 | Nathan1993 | yeah, and XFCE is based on GTK |
| 17:30.11 | Nathan1993 | I want fluxbox on that list |
| 17:31.09 | olegfink | I mean as firefox uses gtk it's offset over GNOME is less than over KDE |
| 17:31.31 | Nathan1993 | Wow, I'ma uninstall xubuntu-desktop on my old laptop and install kubuntu-desktop :-) |
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| 17:32.05 | Q-collective | [18:29:40] <Nathan1993> yeah, and XFCE is based on GTK <-- no, XFCE was based on XForms, are you referring to Xfce? |
| 17:32.10 | Q-collective | /harsplitter mode |
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| 17:32.19 | Q-collective | s/har/hair/ |
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| 17:32.54 | Nathan1993 | I read somewhere that XFCE was based on GTK. |
| 17:32.59 | Nathan1993 | Guess they were wrong. |
| 17:33.23 | Q-collective | XFCE = XForms Common Environment |
| 17:33.27 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 17:34.18 | Q-collective | since version 4 they ported to GTK+ and the "XFCE" thing became deprecated, changing into the odd little word "Xfce" |
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| 17:35.06 | Q-collective | so there is a very good reason why almost no-one ever heard about xfce prior to version 4 |
| 17:35.12 | Q-collective | it was realllly yucky :\ |
| 17:35.55 | smileaf | When I first heard about it last year I thought, "Another DE?...." |
| 17:35.57 | casted | hi. I changed my background using the service menu, and now i cant change it from the configure desktop menu. whats going on? |
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| 17:38.16 | casted | btw i am using kde3.5.5 |
| 17:42.40 | casted | nevermind. for some reason my kdestoprc was corrupt. used this link too solve it: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131374 |
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| 17:44.22 | illogic-al | casted, can you tell me exactly how you changed the background? |
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| 17:44.40 | illogic-al | I've heard this happening before so it's probably a bug somewhere in KDE. |
| 17:44.44 | casted | i right clicked on a wallpaper i just downloaded too the deskop |
| 17:45.07 | casted | i then went too actions-> change background-> centered |
| 17:45.16 | casted | the script that does that could be broken |
| 17:45.33 | casted | i tried too find the script, but couldn't find it |
| 17:45.36 | smileaf | I think it uses a dcop call. |
| 17:46.06 | smileaf | that service menu isn't offical kde that I know of tho. |
| 17:46.28 | casted | are you sure? I have gentoo, so its basically vanilla kde |
| 17:46.54 | smileaf | hmm.. maybe it got included. I have one also. |
| 17:46.56 | illogic-al | casted: um. no. gentoo patches kde. |
| 17:46.57 | casted | the only other thing that I have that would install that menu is gwenview |
| 17:46.58 | illogic-al | a lot. |
| 17:47.05 | casted | that much though? |
| 17:47.30 | casted | i would think the gentoo patches where mostly too make it work well with the rest of gentoo |
| 17:47.35 | casted | not too add features |
| 17:47.37 | illogic-al | I don't know how much or if that's relevant. |
| 17:48.13 | smileaf | it doesn't patch too much of KDE. security issues and bug fixes yes. |
| 17:48.19 | illogic-al | casted: after you changed the wallpaper via the service menu how did you attempt to change it back. |
| 17:48.38 | casted | right click on the desktop, and then go too configure desktop |
| 17:49.04 | casted | then in the background kpart i tried changing it |
| 17:49.13 | casted | but that was still showing the old background |
| 17:49.38 | illogic-al | position scaled? blending/no blending? |
| 17:50.04 | casted | oh. it was centered scaled |
| 17:50.06 | casted | no blending |
| 17:50.07 | illogic-al | png image? jpg? |
| 17:50.13 | casted | solid colour |
| 17:50.16 | casted | png |
| 17:50.18 | casted | let me double check though |
| 17:50.43 | casted | the old and new image where both jpg |
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| 17:51.04 | illogic-al | 'Centered Maxspect' or just 'Scaled' |
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| 17:51.19 | casted | scale and crop |
| 17:51.38 | casted | btw. I sometimes have xinerama enabled. when i did these changes xinerama was switched off, and my second monitor unplugged |
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| 17:51.52 | illogic-al | ah. |
| 17:51.59 | casted | when i do have xinerama each screen shows a different image |
| 17:51.59 | illogic-al | I have xinerama too. |
| 17:52.05 | illogic-al | but my monitors are in. |
| 17:52.09 | casted | so i think that might lead too the corruption |
| 17:52.14 | illogic-al | possibly. |
| 17:52.16 | casted | yeah, well its on my laptop ^_^ |
| 17:52.27 | casted | cant carry my other crt around ;) |
| 17:52.49 | illogic-al | I've just got two LCDs for my desktop :-) |
| 17:53.32 | casted | where would i find the .desktop file for this service menu? |
| 17:54.02 | casted | I tried /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ and /usr/share/services to no success |
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| 17:54.36 | illogic-al | casted: can you reproduce the bug? |
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| 17:54.41 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 17:54.43 | Ace2016 | anyone know where i can get qt3.2? |
| 17:54.52 | illogic-al | Ace2016: from trolltech |
| 17:55.02 | Ace2016 | where is that? a repo? |
| 17:55.08 | illogic-al | because I think I know what the problem is. |
| 17:55.20 | Nathan1993 | What's the linux command for link? |
| 17:55.26 | illogic-al | Ace2016: the guys who make Qt. It's their website. |
| 17:55.27 | smileaf | ln |
| 17:55.45 | illogic-al | 'ln -s' is probably what you want |
| 17:55.55 | smileaf | casted: /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/kdesktopSetAsBackground.desktop |
| 17:56.03 | Nathan1993 | oh yeah, ln |
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| 17:56.28 | casted | hmm, i seem too be having trouble reproducing it |
| 17:56.37 | casted | i probably have too switch too and from xinerama |
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| 17:57.03 | illogic-al | casted: yup. which why i don't want to try :-) |
| 17:57.11 | illogic-al | s/which why/which is why |
| 17:57.36 | casted | hmm. |
| 17:57.52 | casted | i guess i'll give it a go. brb |
| 17:58.11 | Ace2016 | is qt made by kde? |
| 17:58.15 | smileaf | no |
| 17:58.20 | casted | Ace2016: trolltech |
| 17:58.25 | illogic-al | Ace2016: no, Qt is made by trolltech. |
| 17:58.28 | bram85 | kde uses qt |
| 17:58.46 | illogic-al | as I said earlier... |
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| 18:00.18 | Ace2016 | oh now i see, i just thought that kde4 makes qt because kde and qt always seem to be about the same version and most of the apps i run in kde use qt so i thought qt was a part of qt, i'll read up about this on wikipedia, they should give me a little history |
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| 18:00.27 | Ace2016 | qt is nice, i wonder why people use gtk |
| 18:00.41 | illogic-al | because they think gtk is nice. |
| 18:00.46 | Kasyx | *laugh* |
| 18:01.18 | casted | illogic-al: i'll try switching too xinerama later. i want one of my torrents too finish downloading first |
| 18:01.20 | illogic-al | or because they also want their apps to be portable to windows (before Qt 4 you'd need a license) |
| 18:01.26 | illogic-al | casted: cool |
| 18:02.12 | illogic-al | casted: I might try to finish reproducing once I finally finish my bible reading :-) |
| 18:02.23 | Ace2016 | how do i find where the qtdir is? i tried echo qtdir but it didn't say anything |
| 18:02.38 | illogic-al | echo $QTDIR |
| 18:02.40 | casted | illogic-al: ok |
| 18:03.20 | Ace2016 | illogic-al: it says nothing |
| 18:03.38 | Moobyfr | Ace2016: so your distribution hasn't set the variable |
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| 18:03.44 | Moobyfr | probably /usr/lib/qtx |
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| 18:04.01 | illogic-al | Ace2016: which distro you use? |
| 18:04.07 | Ace2016 | kubuntu |
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| 18:05.22 | illogic-al | debian. probably in /usr/lib/qt* as Moobyfr said. |
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| 18:08.11 | grobda24 | Hello...I have Slackware Linux 2.4.31. KDE 3.3.2. I can get artsbuilder to make a sound if it has a note sequence (from the examples) but whe I follow the tuorial and press play ...nothing! No sound! I'm new to arts though. Unless I have a note sequence do I have to run the filter (?) on a sound or something ? |
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| 18:08.44 | grobda24 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.59 | Q-collective | slackware still didn't switch to linux 2.6? |
| 18:09.01 | illogic-al | grobda24: do yourself a favor and upgrade your kde version |
| 18:09.18 | illogic-al | grobda24: your computer will thank your for it. |
| 18:10.01 | grobda24 | Yeah...yeah...I know...problem is I'm SWAMPED with d/l's and new installs...this installation works fine! |
| 18:10.37 | grobda24 | So do you think my arts is working as it should be ? |
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| 18:11.27 | grobda24 | Good to meet you anyways Q-Collective and illogi-cal! |
| 18:11.37 | illogic-al | grobda24: yes, because arts from back then doesn't 'work' so much as it 'induces homicidal tendencies' |
| 18:11.39 | Q-collective | yeah, we know |
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| 18:12.07 | grobda24 | Ah..... |
| 18:12.10 | illogic-al | but hey, everything 'works fine' so don't worry about it :-) |
| 18:12.12 | Q-collective | grobda24: try the tabcompletion btw |
| 18:12.34 | grobda24 | tabcompletion ? |
| 18:12.44 | Q-collective | Q-<tab key> |
| 18:12.59 | grobda24 | in arts ? |
| 18:13.05 | Q-collective | ... |
| 18:13.13 | Q-collective | in your irc client |
| 18:14.01 | grobda24 | OK....if I d/l KDE and install...will it keep all my desktop settings ? |
| 18:14.14 | grobda24 | Should I uninstall the old version first ? |
| 18:14.45 | illogic-al | keep all old settings: nope. uninstall old first: yes |
| 18:14.47 | grobda24 | Q-colective..Ha! ha! I'm using Windows MIRC in linux Wine (don't ask me why)... |
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| 18:15.19 | Q-collective | :| |
| 18:15.27 | grobda24 | OK....I checked...yes the tab completion works....I was never any good with IRC... |
| 18:15.32 | Moobyfr | non free software |
| 18:15.56 | Q-collective | [19:14:51] <illogic-al> keep all old settings: nope. uninstall old first: yes |
| 18:16.00 | Q-collective | other way around |
| 18:16.03 | Q-collective | ;) |
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| 18:16.26 | illogic-al | Q-collective: no, it's not. |
| 18:16.32 | grobda24 | Are you TRYING to confuse me...LOL! |
| 18:16.46 | illogic-al | it won't keep all his old settings. and he should uninstall the old version first |
| 18:16.58 | illogic-al | he's not going from 3.5.x-> 3.5.x |
| 18:17.09 | illogic-al | it's 3.3.x -> 3.5.x |
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| 18:17.18 | Q-collective | he'll keep most of his setting |
| 18:17.21 | illogic-al | He WILL lose some settings |
| 18:17.27 | Q-collective | most = >90% |
| 18:17.30 | grobda24 | Thanks...is there an uninstall script in my version.....? |
| 18:17.35 | illogic-al | Q-collective: notice the use of all in that sentience? |
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| 18:17.43 | illogic-al | s/sentience/sentence |
| 18:17.50 | Q-collective | yes, a lot, you evil man! |
| 18:17.55 | Q-collective | ahem |
| 18:17.58 | Q-collective | anyway |
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| 18:18.17 | Q-collective | grobda24: try to search on the slackware forums for such a script, if any |
| 18:18.23 | illogic-al | grobda24: I don't suppose you version of slack has a package manager. |
| 18:18.46 | Q-collective | slackware and a package manager? :p |
| 18:19.12 | Ace2016 | illogic-al: after a lot of trying and finally running locate qt3, i found that the dir is /usr/share/qt3/ |
| 18:19.16 | grobda24 | Ah...yes, of course, your're right! The package manager..thanks... |
| 18:19.21 | casted | grobda24: why are you running MIRC in wine? |
| 18:19.25 | casted | i have too ask |
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| 18:20.03 | grobda24 | casted.....I had it setup with nice image backgrounds...and was used to using it from my windows days.... |
| 18:20.06 | Moobyfr | libs in /usr/share, what's a pity distrib... |
| 18:21.03 | casted | grobda24: ok... I guess that is acceptable. But try out konversation or xchat or irssi. you'll be glad when you switch |
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| 18:23.04 | oceanstream | I'm still trying to hunt down the reason why my mediamanager says that I don't have HAL, any thoughts? |
| 18:23.27 | casted | is hald running? |
| 18:24.18 | casted | you must also make sure dbus is running first. Then try a restart. ( you might just get away with restarting X) |
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| 18:28.01 | oceanstream | I'm going to restart dbus, hald, kde and x and I'll check back with you. :) |
| 18:28.32 | Ace2016 | why not just restart the computer? |
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| 18:30.48 | casted | oceanstream: working? |
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| 18:31.03 | oceanstream | nope. attempting to mount my cdrom gives me "Feature only available with HAL." |
| 18:31.12 | oceanstream | These are slackware packages for v.11 that are supposed to include HAL support. |
| 18:31.23 | oceanstream | Perhaps I need to actually compile kdebase ? |
| 18:31.49 | casted | well, in gentoo you need the HAL use flag enabled, so slackware might have not compiled the support |
| 18:31.56 | Kasyx | Is there a kde app for pdfs? |
| 18:31.59 | hollywoodb | oceanstream: Slack 11 doesn't come with HAL, and nothing is compiled with HAL support |
| 18:32.15 | casted | make sure you start the services in this order: dbus, hald, kde |
| 18:32.37 | oceanstream | holly: I had heard that, so I downloaded slack packages that I was informed were specifically compiled with hal support. |
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| 18:32.51 | oceanstream | perhaps there was an error in the information given about those 3.5.5 packages, or is the media manager in a package other than kdebase? |
| 18:33.57 | hollywoodb | oceanstream: with hal support, but do they actually include HAL? if not you'll have to build hal and dbus |
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| 18:34.28 | hollywoodb | oceanstream: with hal support, but do they actually include HAL? if not you'll have to build hal and dbus |
| 18:34.39 | oceanstream | I have compiled dbus and hal. |
| 18:34.48 | oceanstream | and have them installed. |
| 18:37.26 | oceanstream | Would updating to a new HAL work? I'm using 0.5.5.1. |
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| 18:46.21 | oceanstream | Okay, at present I'm using hal 0.5.8.1 and kde 3.5.5 and anytime I try one of the media:/ ioslaves, I get "Feature only available with HAL" |
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| 18:46.28 | el-grecco | hi everybody! |
| 18:46.45 | oceanstream | hi dr. el-grecco |
| 18:48.33 | el-grecco | oceanstream, can you help me? |
| 18:49.05 | el-grecco | i'm trying to use ktouch and i cant get the accent |
| 18:49.10 | el-grecco | get to work |
| 18:49.49 | el-grecco | do you know what i can do |
| 18:49.51 | oceanstream | Sorry, can't be of much help. |
| 18:50.32 | el-grecco | do you have any idea where I can get help |
| 18:50.33 | el-grecco | ? |
| 18:51.59 | oceanstream | This channel seems like the right place. |
| 18:52.10 | SimAtWork | #kde is always the right place |
| 18:53.15 | oceanstream | Good to hear. |
| 18:53.21 | grobda24 | Thanks all....I can get arts to do SOMETHING....ANYTHING...now....enough for me at the mo...bye! |
| 18:53.36 | ataxic | hehe for a second i read farts |
| 18:53.51 | grobda24 | he he |
| 18:54.07 | oceanstream | heh. |
| 18:54.09 | ataxic | <end of beavis and butthead mode> |
| 18:54.20 | SimAtWork | I want a nokia 770 :( |
| 18:54.34 | oceanstream | It won't work with kmobiletools :( |
| 18:54.44 | SimAtWork | it wont'? |
| 18:54.46 | ataxic | i want a phone that runs linux |
| 18:55.05 | SimAtWork | all i want is a phone with a battery life of 5 days or more |
| 18:55.13 | oceanstream | Nokias are very poorly supported by kmobiletools. I have a nokia 6265 and I can't even make it connect. |
| 18:55.19 | ataxic | so if i sms someone i first have to cat addressbook | grep name |
| 18:55.28 | SimAtWork | it'd be neat to have linux on it, but the scren is so small.. what'st he point. |
| 18:55.30 | oceanstream | Fortunately kbluetoothd is fully functional, so I can obtain my pics / videos / mp3s easily. |
| 18:55.32 | ataxic | bash mode :) |
| 18:56.02 | ataxic | SimAtWork: just to have linux powering it |
| 18:56.08 | ataxic | i have a nokia |
| 18:56.14 | ataxic | 6600 i think |
| 18:56.20 | ataxic | clunky thing |
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| 18:57.02 | ataxic | and the software that comes with it make you want to slit your wrists |
| 18:57.04 | ataxic | i gave up |
| 18:57.58 | oceanstream | heh |
| 18:58.06 | oceanstream | Right now mediamanager is giving me the same reaction. |
| 18:58.21 | oceanstream | In theory I've got all the building blocks in place - just apparently can't make this work at all. |
| 18:58.31 | oceanstream | I'm considering building new hal rules for the drives and seeing if that works. |
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| 18:59.43 | Kasyx | Anyone know why kpdf needs qt in a new slot? o.o |
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| 19:05.03 | hollywoodb | SimAtWork: I just got a Kyocera KX12, 200hrs battery life, 400+ minutes talk time |
| 19:05.23 | SimAtWork | hollywoodb: ! nice |
| 19:05.32 | SimAtWork | never heard of it |
| 19:05.36 | SimAtWork | soo.. does it run linux too? |
| 19:05.56 | hollywoodb | SimAtWork: the downside is that it isn't very responsive with some of the menus and such... it almost seems like it has been 'underclocked' :) I doubt it runs linux |
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| 19:06.20 | SimAtWork | no, sounds like windows |
| 19:09.00 | oceanstream | Alright, I'm attempting a recompile of kdebase 3.5.5 to alleviate the problem. |
| 19:10.37 | casted | oceanstream: see you next week then ^_^ |
| 19:11.21 | oceanstream | haha |
| 19:12.04 | oceanstream | Caster: This pc is hyperthreaded - now with more intel juice to do more things at the same time! |
| 19:12.07 | oceanstream | casted, rather :) |
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| 19:12.48 | casted | no, it wont take that long. Although i had my hyperthreaded pc overheat while it was compiling kde |
| 19:12.56 | oceanstream | wow. |
| 19:12.58 | mattl | klatin? |
| 19:13.05 | oceanstream | casted: how long should it take? |
| 19:13.10 | casted | but that was a combination of outside heat plus full cpu usage |
| 19:13.13 | oceanstream | Caster: Should I go for lunch? :) |
| 19:13.20 | SimAtWork | the great thing about hyperthreading is it's been shown to slow things down a fair bit |
| 19:13.21 | casted | yeah |
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| 19:13.34 | oceanstream | simmerz: ht slows things down a fair bit? |
| 19:13.35 | casted | it will take atleast 30min |
| 19:13.37 | oceanstream | simatwork, rather. |
| 19:13.43 | oceanstream | stupid bitchx nick completion. :/ |
| 19:13.45 | casted | cant remember exactly how long base takes |
| 19:14.05 | oceanstream | I'll tell you when I get back. |
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| 19:16.14 | Moobyfr | $poukram $kick |
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| 19:26.17 | nick01 | how do I enable the kde sound theme ? |
| 19:27.56 | Kasyx | nick01: you mean the KDE sound effects? |
| 19:28.54 | nick01 | Kasyx, in that screen at first boot it is reffered to as the sound theme |
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| 19:29.15 | maro | hi |
| 19:29.27 | Kasyx | nick01: then I'd imagine it's the sound effects, and as far as I know you need arts for that |
| 19:29.28 | maro | what's the equalivant of --sysconfdir=/etc with the cmake builds? |
| 19:29.43 | Kasyx | Which is a shame because I like the sound effects but don't want arts |
| 19:31.37 | nick01 | Kasyx, I have it |
| 19:34.20 | Kasyx | Kasyx: hmm. I don't know then I'm afraid. |
| 19:34.23 | Kasyx | ... |
| 19:34.30 | Kasyx | nick01: that was to you, obviously heh |
| 19:34.55 | nick01 | in what package are the kde sounds ? I think I removed it and failed to reinstall |
| 19:35.45 | nick01 | no sounds in kwin though they are enabled in kcontrol |
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| 19:39.50 | lopa | could there actually be a reason why my net on windows is fast and kde its a little slower ? |
| 19:40.08 | Nathan1993 | It's probably your LAN drivers. |
| 19:40.15 | Nathan1993 | Nothing to do with KDE, just linux. |
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| 19:45.56 | lopa | just the browsing speed |
| 19:46.11 | nick01 | I can't play ogg files from the system notifications with tehe play button they don't play by themselves either |
| 19:46.17 | nick01 | what does kde use to play them ? |
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| 19:46.24 | nick01 | so I can install it ? |
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| 19:56.07 | nick01 | and arts crashes if I start it from konsole and oen some applications which would make sounds |
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| 20:21.54 | Aghaster | I'm searching for the name of a replacement toolbar/menu for KDE I've seen in a screenshot some time ago... |
| 20:22.00 | Aghaster | anybody got an idea? |
| 20:24.20 | bsdfox__ | what's it look like |
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| 20:25.14 | Aghaster | it was a Windows XP like menu |
| 20:25.30 | pinotree | Aghaster: kbfx |
| 20:26.07 | Aghaster | yeah, that's it. thanks! |
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| 20:31.06 | McEnroe | where do i get the filter field in kmenu? like in suse |
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| 20:31.36 | benJIman | McEnroe: suse's patches are on ktown if you want to apply them |
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| 20:32.01 | benJIman | http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/distributor-patches |
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| 20:41.23 | oceanstream | hmm. about 45 minutes to compile kdebase. |
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| 20:43.45 | oceanstream | okay, wow. I now have my dvd drive in kde (but it reads as a cd writer) and my / folder shows up in media:/ as an ipod. |
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| 20:50.48 | McEnroe | benJIman: why aren't thy included in kde? |
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| 20:51.17 | Pinaraf | McEnroe: usability issues |
| 20:51.21 | benJIman | McEnroe: not everything is merged upstream, that is up to upstream to decide |
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| 20:52.03 | oceanstream | Okay, I've come so far as to rebuild kdebase 3.5.5 with hal support, and the media manager somewhat works. |
| 20:52.34 | oceanstream | But my drives are not recognized properly, any thoughts? |
| 20:54.17 | Pinaraf | oceanstream: does hal recognize them properly ? |
| 20:54.50 | Pinaraf | (you can use lshal or hal-device or a graphical hal device browser...) |
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| 21:00.07 | ma3x | where do I change the DPI of kde windows manager |
| 21:00.29 | PhilRod | kde just uses the X dpi, I think |
| 21:00.42 | ma3x | and where is that specified? |
| 21:00.44 | ma3x | xorg.conf |
| 21:00.55 | ma3x | and whats the option name/ |
| 21:01.01 | Desintegr | kcmshell fonts |
| 21:01.10 | ma3x | what |
| 21:01.10 | Desintegr | Force fonts DPI option |
| 21:01.20 | ma3x | where is that specified? |
| 21:01.23 | ma3x | can you explain exactly? |
| 21:01.24 | Desintegr | kcmshell fonts |
| 21:01.32 | ma3x | I add that to xorg.conf? |
| 21:01.36 | Desintegr | no |
| 21:01.42 | Desintegr | you run « kcmshell fonts » |
| 21:01.51 | ma3x | ok |
| 21:01.52 | ma3x | and then? |
| 21:01.58 | Desintegr | you click on the box |
| 21:02.06 | Desintegr | Force DPI Fonts |
| 21:02.15 | ma3x | and whats the DPI, 96? |
| 21:02.21 | Desintegr | then you choose between 96 DPI or 120 DPI |
| 21:02.25 | ma3x | ok |
| 21:02.27 | ma3x | let me restart X now |
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| 21:02.56 | simmerz | Desintegr: never noticed that option before! |
| 21:02.56 | Kasyx | The higher the dpi, the smaller the fonts, right? |
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| 21:03.07 | Desintegr | simmerz: new in KDE 3.5.5 |
| 21:03.17 | simmerz | Desintegr: ah I see |
| 21:03.20 | ma3x | I forgot to ask, how do I adjust the brightness and contrast of my monitor |
| 21:03.23 | ma3x | it seems so dark? |
| 21:03.28 | simmerz | ma3x: probably on your monitor |
| 21:03.29 | ma3x | and should I increase brightness or contrast |
| 21:03.32 | Kasyx | ma3x: buttons on the front? |
| 21:03.38 | ma3x | im not sure what the both options difference is |
| 21:03.45 | simmerz | ma3x: fiddle until you like it |
| 21:03.48 | ma3x | Kasyx, it's maxed up on the monitor |
| 21:03.59 | Kasyx | ma3x: dunno then, sorry |
| 21:04.10 | simmerz | ma3x: maybe your gamma setting then. somewhere in display |
| 21:04.19 | ma3x | dunno why, I have the monitor since a few years |
| 21:04.22 | ma3x | and recently it just got darked |
| 21:04.25 | ma3x | darker |
| 21:04.33 | simmerz | lcd? |
| 21:04.36 | ma3x | no, CRT |
| 21:04.39 | ma3x | viewsonic E90 |
| 21:04.41 | Desintegr | kcmshell display |
| 21:04.45 | Desintegr | Gamma tab |
| 21:04.53 | simmerz | what Desintegr said |
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| 21:05.28 | ma3x | ok |
| 21:05.31 | ma3x | does that affect mplayer? |
| 21:05.37 | ma3x | when playing video? |
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| 21:06.12 | Desintegr | that should |
| 21:06.31 | ma3x | ok |
| 21:06.58 | casted | mplayer has keys for adjusting brightness, contrast, hue and saturation |
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| 21:15.28 | mattl | gw280, ping. |
| 21:15.36 | gw280 | mattl: pong |
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| 21:22.27 | berryyyl | or is there equivalents of kxdocker that i can try? i didn't like kooldock, so it there anything else? |
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| 21:22.46 | berryyyl | oopsies, didn't mean to type or* |
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| 21:47.00 | _peter | hello |
| 21:47.27 | PhilRod | hi _peter |
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| 21:52.10 | tapas | it would be so cool if there were a gdb plugin for kate |
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| 21:54.36 | Kasyx | Is there a way to get rid of the background image in konq when it's the file manager? |
| 21:55.24 | pinotree | tapas: not a plugin, but a nice frontend is kgdb |
| 21:55.32 | PhilRod | Kasyx, view->configure background |
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| 21:57.30 | olegfink | hi is theres such a thing as a firefox qt port? |
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| 21:57.48 | PhilRod | not really |
| 21:57.55 | Moobyfr | konqueror is suffisant :) |
| 21:57.58 | olegfink | eh okay |
| 21:58.06 | olegfink | just wanted to be sure |
| 21:58.13 | olegfink | using Konq only |
| 21:58.35 | olegfink | however Gecko seems to be ported |
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| 21:59.17 | ma3x | where do I specify the DPI of xorg? |
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| 22:01.16 | JohnFlux | ma3x: man xorg.conf |
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| 22:01.51 | ma3x | JohnFlux, be more specific |
| 22:01.53 | ma3x | I have kdm |
| 22:01.59 | ma3x | and kdm changes the DPI somehow to 100 |
| 22:02.53 | JohnFlux | ma3x: do you know how to /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root? |
| 22:03.15 | ma3x | how to what? open it? |
| 22:03.17 | ma3x | of course |
| 22:03.28 | ma3x | but how do I specify how much DPI? |
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| 22:13.26 | gdiebel | olegfink: there was a qt port of gecko around 4 years ago. There was trouble from mozilla devs getting it into cvs. It has since bit-rotted majorly |
| 22:13.42 | olegfink | ah okay |
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| 22:22.24 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 22:22.45 | elvirolo | i just installed debian unstable with kde, but i can't find the sound control applet ... what is it called ? |
| 22:22.56 | Renze | kmix |
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| 22:23.20 | Renze | or "sound mixer" in the list of applets for the other one |
| 22:23.29 | elvirolo | Renze: thank you |
| 22:23.32 | Alumin | is it possible to configure the quote character in Kmail? |
| 22:23.35 | Renze | no problem |
| 22:23.43 | Alumin | actually, let me rephrase that |
| 22:24.05 | Alumin | is it possible to configure the set of characters / regex that Kmail uses when displaying messages? |
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| 22:24.36 | Alumin | in other words, I want Kmail to consider something to be a quote _only_ if it is prefixed with > |
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| 22:24.46 | Alumin | and not any other silly character like | or such |
| 22:24.49 | Kasyx | Hey Shirakawasuna |
| 22:24.51 | Shirakawasuna | yo |
| 22:27.20 | Shirakawasuna | somehow I can't figure out how to turn offf th ekorganizer daemon >_< |
| 22:27.40 | Nathan1993 | I just downloaded a plugin for Kate. How do I install it? |
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| 22:30.07 | Shirakawasuna | does it have a readme? |
| 22:30.24 | Nathan1993 | Uhh... didn't think of that. |
| 22:30.27 | Nathan1993 | Lemme check xD |
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| 22:32.07 | Nathan1993 | There is. |
| 22:32.15 | Nathan1993 | Thanks for making me realize how retarded I am. |
| 22:32.32 | GNU\colossus | :D |
| 22:33.25 | Shirakawasuna | np ;) |
| 22:37.25 | Nathan1993 | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 22:37.31 | Nathan1993 | ??? |
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| 22:39.40 | Moobyfr | Nathan1993: you need some devel libraries, like libx11_6-devel |
| 22:39.46 | tapas | pinotree: true, i am just dreaming of having it integrated into kate :) |
| 22:39.52 | Nathan1993 | OK, thanks |
| 22:39.58 | Moobyfr | naming depend of the distro |
| 22:41.01 | pinotree | tapas: theorically there's kdevelop for that.. |
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| 23:23.13 | jart | is there an option in KDE to make the border of a window dissapear when maximized? |
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| 23:25.06 | Kasyx | jart: you can select advanced from the window menu and choose no border. I'm not sure if you can do that automagically though. |
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