| 00:00.14 | ctx144k_ | would be great to change the iconsizes of the "kmenu" via an option (little, middle, big) |
| 00:00.50 | ctx144k_ | in debian i must change an .rc file manually if i remeber correctly |
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| 00:01.22 | smileaf | yay for hidden options ;) |
| 00:01.27 | ctx144k_ | =) |
| 00:01.36 | smileaf | someone should write a "tweekde" =) |
| 00:02.13 | ctx144k_ | oh yes... i know its a problem, to much options makes kde to complicated, to many options to mac-like *g |
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| 00:02.49 | icwiener_ | With a Disable KDE Product Activation switch just for compatibility to other OSes. ;) |
| 00:03.03 | ctx144k_ | :-) |
| 00:03.16 | Jucato | hi smileaf |
| 00:03.22 | ctx144k_ | directly on ms-server? :-) |
| 00:03.27 | smileaf | people already complain that kde has too many options as it is and we don't even have gui options for all the ones that are available ;) |
| 00:03.33 | smileaf | Jucato: good evening. |
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| 00:04.14 | ctx144k_ | yes i think so too... - perhaps its a way to give 2 modes in kde... an expert and an user mode |
| 00:04.58 | ctx144k_ | then u can configure all things in expert mode, and later while using u can switch to the easy usermode |
| 00:04.58 | nuku | how about a startup trivia to determine the users capabilites ;) |
| 00:04.59 | smileaf | nah.. that idea has been argued over for years and is always shot down. |
| 00:05.27 | ctx144k_ | hmm... im using much times pcs... |
| 00:05.36 | ctx144k_ | many years windows, and many years kde |
| 00:06.17 | ctx144k_ | and... - i must say programs like kdevelop or kate are much more difficultly to configure like ms-studio or textpad |
| 00:06.46 | smileaf | they also are a heck of alot more powerful too ;) |
| 00:06.59 | ctx144k_ | and... after many hours using kate i have problems orr things i dont understand... tahts in textpad much easier |
| 00:07.40 | smileaf | I use kwrite |
| 00:07.41 | Jucato | ... paradigms... |
| 00:07.49 | ctx144k_ | i know... kwrite is nice |
| 00:08.03 | ctx144k_ | but as programmer i need many open files in one window |
| 00:08.22 | teatime | nuku: lol! |
| 00:08.27 | ctx144k_ | sorry :-( |
| 00:08.39 | ctx144k_ | im a stupid little web-programmer :) |
| 00:08.59 | smileaf | I do a bit of that also :) gotta love PHP ;) |
| 00:09.08 | ctx144k_ | yes its great |
| 00:09.36 | smileaf | php was my gateway drug to c++. |
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| 00:10.10 | ctx144k_ | hehe ... love php cause its like c |
| 00:10.47 | nuku | Prepare Hackers Portal? *scnr* |
| 00:11.17 | smileaf | hackers.kde.org? :) |
| 00:12.32 | icwiener_ | Jucato: Still interested in having kword docs as html? |
| 00:12.40 | ctx144k_ | whish i wouldbe a good programmer... wouldbe help in fixing kde-programs... but - have many problems to understand c++ and qt (c is ok) |
| 00:12.59 | thiago | C++ and Qt are a lot easier than plain C |
| 00:13.18 | ctx144k_ | dont think so..... |
| 00:13.20 | Jucato | (studying C++, though, is a different matter :P) |
| 00:13.53 | Jucato | icwiener_: I think I was looking for a PDF version of the kword doc... :) |
| 00:13.57 | thiago | ctx144k_: if we compare similar things, that is |
| 00:14.10 | ctx144k_ | its perhaps easy to build applications... - i see with how many code-lines some applications run... |
| 00:14.12 | thiago | ctx144k_: you must compare Qt to a C-based toolkit library with similar capabilities |
| 00:14.23 | ctx144k_ | but - i dont understand how it works real |
| 00:14.31 | thiago | we're not talking about strlen() |
| 00:14.39 | Jucato | heh |
| 00:14.54 | nuku | gobject ..brr ;p |
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| 00:15.12 | smileaf | I'm a learn as I code programmer. my first C++/KDE app was kdmtheme which was integrated into kde4 :) if I can do it.. anyone can =p |
| 00:15.42 | ctx144k_ | :) |
| 00:15.42 | thiago | ctx144k_: what don't you understand? |
| 00:15.47 | thiago | asking here can maybe help |
| 00:15.53 | tillo | (for those who joined later, I repeat) I read on the web about many people saying that kicker 3.5.5 already contains kicker-compiz code to make windows appear on the right virtual desktop in its pager when using compiz or beryl, but it doesn't work for me... does anyone has the same problem? |
| 00:15.58 | Jucato | smileaf: not really. you're just special :P |
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| 00:16.08 | smileaf | Jucato: "special"? :( |
| 00:16.11 | icwiener_ | Jucato: AFAIR you said pdf or html :) Anyway, search for /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kword (or similar), copy all .docbook files in another dir and do 'mainproc file.docbook' for every file for getting html files. :) |
| 00:16.12 | ctx144k_ | have no explizit thing... the complete working withh the objects |
| 00:16.27 | ctx144k_ | last trime i tried was 1year ago |
| 00:16.29 | Renze | smileaf: "speshul" ;) |
| 00:16.34 | Jucato | icwiener_: oooh thanks! :) |
| 00:16.43 | ctx144k_ | tryied to understand the qt-howto |
| 00:17.05 | thiago | tillo: compiz and beryl are not supported. You are using it under your own luck. |
| 00:17.09 | smileaf | icwiener_: isn't it meinproc? |
| 00:17.12 | thiago | tillo: if it breaks, talk to your distributor. |
| 00:17.29 | icwiener_ | smileaf: Sure, just a typo. :) |
| 00:17.50 | Jucato | so it's "meinproc"? |
| 00:17.53 | smileaf | yes |
| 00:17.55 | icwiener_ | Jucato: Yes |
| 00:18.03 | ctx144k_ | but perhaps ill try it again... my dream-application would be an audio-player like xmms, on kde basis |
| 00:18.05 | Jucato | ooh thanks |
| 00:18.10 | pinotree | well |
| 00:18.21 | pinotree | no need to do meinproc on every .docbook file |
| 00:18.35 | pinotree | just meinproc index.docbook is enough |
| 00:18.36 | tillo | thiago: I just put a question, and just want a reasonable answer, I don't want to complain about anything =) thank you |
| 00:18.47 | pinotree | as it will compile every peiece of that manual |
| 00:18.51 | thiago | ctx144k_: like amarok? |
| 00:19.04 | icwiener_ | My dream app is a Jabber-only client with solid jabber support. :) |
| 00:19.08 | smileaf | amarok does have a XMMS mode. |
| 00:19.11 | ctx144k_ | no.. simple like xmms... |
| 00:19.18 | ctx144k_ | no databases |
| 00:19.32 | thiago | if you don't want to use databases in amarok, don't use them |
| 00:19.46 | thiago | don't create a collection |
| 00:20.24 | ctx144k_ | only for playing fuiles changing skins, changing infotext - perhaps with an xine/goom plugin like kaffeine |
| 00:20.41 | ctx144k_ | i think amarok is to big... |
| 00:21.12 | ctx144k_ | my favorite player is today xmms - but it looks like - gtk1 *f |
| 00:21.13 | benJIman|LAN | There is juk too |
| 00:21.14 | ctx144k_ | *g |
| 00:22.37 | Jucato | hehe |
| 00:23.02 | ctx144k_ | yes i know... but looks like a 'program' too... wanna a 'media-player' looks nice and with simple and easy handling... and noatun is too easy *g |
| 00:23.02 | hermier | and amarock is not a player, it a jukebox with ligths and buttons |
| 00:23.51 | smileaf | very fitting typo .. ama-rock! hehe |
| 00:24.39 | koala_man | konqueror hangs for five seconds when I select the location bar or press the down error to list recent urls. why? |
| 00:24.47 | Jucato | pinotree, icwiener_: thank you! :) |
| 00:24.51 | koala_man | if I restart, it'll be fine |
| 00:24.55 | pinotree | np |
| 00:24.59 | icwiener_ | Jucato: np |
| 00:25.23 | benJIman|LAN | koala_man: maybe the history is corrupted |
| 00:25.30 | Jucato | now to check if my phone will read those pages properly. hehehe :) |
| 00:26.02 | koala_man | benJIman|LAN: can I fix it without restarting konqueror? it seems to happen fairly regularly if I don't close it for a while |
| 00:26.10 | benJIman|LAN | interesting |
| 00:26.23 | benJIman|LAN | Sounds like a different problem then. |
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| 00:30.10 | koala_man | the same apparently goes for text fields in forms |
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| 00:35.36 | thiago | koala_man: where does your Qt come from? |
| 00:36.02 | koala_man | gentoo |
| 00:36.08 | thiago | so you built it? |
| 00:36.15 | koala_man | yes |
| 00:36.26 | thiago | can you confirm if KDE patch 0048 was applied to it? |
| 00:37.47 | Renze | thiago: that patch exists in portage |
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| 00:37.56 | Renze | 0048-qclipboard_hack_80072.patch |
| 00:38.58 | thiago | yep |
| 00:39.06 | thiago | was that applied in koala_man's build? |
| 00:39.32 | koala_man | no clue. how can I check? |
| 00:39.41 | Renze | it's been there since 6th June, so I would imagine so |
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| 00:39.57 | Renze | koala_man: have you built qt after 6th June? |
| 00:40.03 | thiago | it should have been there for a couple of years |
| 00:40.37 | Renze | that's the last time that file was touched |
| 00:40.44 | thiago | what was the first? |
| 00:41.37 | thiago | koala_man: there's another way to check |
| 00:41.38 | koala_man | Renze: yes |
| 00:42.00 | koala_man | nov 17 |
| 00:42.02 | thiago | nm -D /path/to/your/libqt-mt.so.3 | grep qt_qclipboard_bailout_hack |
| 00:42.34 | koala_man | 006a2a40 B qt_qclipboard_bailout_hack |
| 00:42.41 | thiago | ok, the patch was applied |
| 00:42.51 | thiago | is klipper running/ |
| 00:43.01 | koala_man | no |
| 00:43.07 | thiago | then I can't explain |
| 00:43.46 | koala_man | I started klipper and now it appears to work |
| 00:44.45 | koala_man | I quit it and it still works |
| 00:44.52 | koala_man | freaky. |
| 00:45.11 | koala_man | I'll try that again the next time it starts acting up |
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| 01:01.40 | Tuxguy | What is the name of the package that contains all of the card games? kde-games? |
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| 01:03.24 | Dr_willis | I sort of Perfer PySOL for my card-game needs. :) |
| 01:04.07 | icwiener_ | Tuxguy: kdegames? |
| 01:04.32 | Tuxguy | ty |
| 01:05.39 | icwiener_ | Tuxguy: kpat on some distros. |
| 01:05.39 | Tuxguy | It's kdegames on Fedora Core...thank you |
| 01:05.40 | Tuxguy | Just sucks that I have to install Kde to get those packages :/ |
| 01:05.40 | hagabaka | what does kpat stand for? |
| 01:05.41 | Renze | k patience |
| 01:06.08 | hagabaka | oh |
| 01:06.22 | hagabaka | that's one of the card games? |
| 01:06.33 | icwiener_ | hagabaka: A collection of card games |
| 01:06.39 | Renze | it plays a bunch of single player card games |
| 01:06.58 | hagabaka | hmm i see |
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| 01:33.25 | cirkit | I've got a window decoration here and not sure how its suppose to get installed... |
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| 01:34.02 | Renze | cirkit: native windeco? dekorator theme? icewm theme? |
| 01:34.15 | Jucato | this question slaps me in the face :0 |
| 01:34.18 | Jucato | :) |
| 01:34.34 | Dr_willis | Heh - i noticed on my Kubuntuy - that Dekorator got installed.. but no themes for it. :) |
| 01:36.28 | Jucato | :P |
| 01:36.45 | Jucato | Dr_willis: of course, you have to install/add themes for deKorator :) |
| 01:37.13 | Dr_willis | Jucato, i see none in the repos. |
| 01:37.30 | Dr_willis | Unless apt-cache search deKorator aint showing them |
| 01:37.33 | Jucato | Dr_willis: kde-look.org |
| 01:37.49 | Jucato | you don't install them from the package manager :) |
| 01:37.51 | Dr_willis | so they cant even include ONE them for it... heh heh.. |
| 01:37.58 | Jucato | well... |
| 01:38.19 | Dr_willis | Thats why i noticed it.. in the theme/decoraton area.. i selected dekorator.. and there was no themes for it. |
| 01:38.20 | Jucato | dekorator isn't at the top of their list. look at what version is in the repository |
| 01:38.37 | Renze | dekorator blows goats anyway ;) |
| 01:38.40 | Dr_willis | Yep. old versions is the bane of the *ubuntus |
| 01:38.51 | Dr_willis | Renze, yep - i sort of agree with ya there also. |
| 01:39.07 | Jucato | nah, it's just that no one package 0.3 for Edgy |
| 01:39.18 | Dr_willis | Been using the "Powder" theme lately for my windows. |
| 01:39.33 | Dr_willis | simple. clean, easy on the eyes |
| 01:39.44 | Jucato | er... is Serenity also a windeco? |
| 01:39.48 | Renze | yes |
| 01:39.56 | Jucato | let me guess, no deb package either? |
| 01:40.05 | Renze | don't know, don't care ;) |
| 01:40.07 | Dr_willis | Bah! real men compile their themes. :) |
| 01:40.09 | Jucato | bah |
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| 01:40.21 | Jucato | KDE themes are not compiled, technically |
| 01:40.37 | Jucato | window decorations and styles are the one that you compile :P |
| 01:40.40 | Dr_willis | of corse explaing to total beginners how kde themes/decors/iconsets/whatever the heck ya call them... work... |
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| 01:40.44 | Dhraakellian | Jucato: Qt/KDE widget styles are co—nm |
| 01:40.49 | Dr_willis | Ive seen icon sets that get 'make'ed' :) |
| 01:41.09 | Jucato | :P |
| 01:41.23 | Renze | Jucato: learned C++ yet? ;) |
| 01:41.25 | Jucato | Dr_willis: nah, probably just some configuration to set them in the right places |
| 01:41.33 | Jucato | still learning, Renze |
| 01:41.49 | Dr_willis | Jucato, i think the script some how converrted them to differnt sizes.. i dident pay much atention to it. :) |
| 01:41.53 | Jucato | Dhraakellian: I thought 2.16 brought about something like that? |
| 01:42.17 | Dhraakellian | Jucato: dunno. haven't used gnome since I tried out 2.10 |
| 01:42.59 | Jucato | hehe |
| 01:43.09 | Jucato | maybe time to take another peek :P |
| 01:43.16 | Renze | no thanks |
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| 01:43.24 | Jucato | scared that you might be converted? :) |
| 01:43.30 | Renze | gnome always felt like a kludge to me |
| 01:43.36 | Renze | hell no |
| 01:43.49 | Renze | screenshots are bad enough |
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| 01:44.05 | Jucato | how would you know if it still feels like a kludge if you haven't tried it in a long, long, long, long, long time? |
| 01:44.08 | Jucato | :P |
| 01:44.10 | Dhraakellian | people have probably said similar things about KDE |
| 01:44.26 | Renze | Jucato: do they still use nautilus? yes? I rest my case :D |
| 01:44.33 | Jucato | lol |
| 01:44.44 | Jucato | xchat on windows rock!!! |
| 01:44.50 | Jucato | 30 days trial! :) |
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| 01:45.05 | Dhraakellian | Jucato: because it's the best known F/OSS GUI IRC client on Windows? |
| 01:45.10 | Dr_willis | Jucato, of ya can get alterantive versions. :) |
| 01:45.36 | cirkit | Renze, its a IceWm flat icon theme |
| 01:45.37 | Dr_willis | there are unofficial builds for windows as well. |
| 01:45.37 | Jucato | cirkit: you need to install the KDE IceWM window decoration |
| 01:45.37 | Dhraakellian | kvirc and xchat are on the way toward becoming polar opposites of each other |
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| 01:45.46 | Jucato | er... brb... (very) early lunch |
| 01:45.49 | Dr_willis | Xchat has been geting so dumbed down.. i get the source for 2.4 now and use it.. |
| 01:45.50 | Jucato | :) |
| 01:46.04 | Dhraakellian | Jucato, cirkit: doesn't that one come with KDE by default? |
| 01:46.13 | Renze | Dhraakellian: some distros split it out |
| 01:46.25 | Dhraakellian | in kdeartwork, at least? |
| 01:46.27 | cirkit | I have icewm installed in the menu |
| 01:46.46 | cirkit | the install text said to pick icewm and click the configure tab...theres no configure tab |
| 01:47.06 | Renze | cirkit: then put the theme in ~/.kde/share/apps/kwin/icewm-themes/ |
| 01:47.26 | Dhraakellian | kvirc has too many options in the GUI (either that or they're just organized in confusing ways), and xchat has too few |
| 01:47.34 | Dhraakellian | (or is heading that way) |
| 01:47.50 | Renze | cirkit: the install text is for a much older version of KDE |
| 01:48.12 | cirkit | oic |
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| 02:57.09 | craigbass1976 | I can't export krec files to wav or ogg. Is this a common problem? |
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| 03:49.26 | icwiener_ | Anyone knows what kind of information is in the comment field of a mp3 if amarok shows stuff like "0000127C 000010D0 00003AD0 000036CD"? |
| 03:51.06 | Renze | FBI tracking number? :D |
| 03:52.29 | Renze | kidding! :D |
| 03:52.41 | Jucato | no he isn't :) |
| 03:52.49 | Renze | shhh! |
| 03:52.55 | icwiener_ | I guess it's some kind of binary data like album cover but I do not know how to view it. |
| 03:52.58 | icwiener_ | hehe |
| 03:53.23 | Renze | 16 bytes isn't enough for an album cover |
| 03:53.24 | icwiener_ | I'm not over my own line online so I don't care. ;) |
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| 03:54.55 | icwiener_ | Renze: It's a bit more, I didn't want to paste the whole line. |
| 03:55.48 | Renze | nothing in the comment field |
| 03:56.08 | icwiener_ | Ok, thx. Then I have to live with it. :) |
| 03:56.35 | Renze | you could always try removing it ;) |
| 03:57.03 | Renze | it's probably just playback settings for a specific player or something |
| 03:57.11 | icwiener_ | Sure, but somehow I can't because I want to know what I miss if it's gone. ;) |
| 03:57.24 | Renze | copy it to a text file so you can put it back later ;) |
| 03:57.44 | Renze | then you can see what disappears |
| 03:57.48 | Renze | if anything |
| 03:58.14 | icwiener_ | I do not know where to look if anything disappears. |
| 03:58.32 | Renze | if you can't notice, does it really matter? |
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| 03:59.10 | Sho_ | icwiener_: It may be the unique identifier Amarok uses to track files across changes in position and name |
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| 03:59.32 | Sho_ | icwiener_: Although it should use special fields of the container designed for that purpose unless said container lacks them |
| 04:00.01 | icwiener_ | Sho_: It's only in about 1% of my files, so I don't think so. |
| 04:00.26 | Sho_ | icwiener_: Well MP3 and Ogg have special fields for that ... |
| 04:00.35 | Renze | I've downloaded tracks with that stuff in the comment field, and deleted the comment with no ill effects |
| 04:01.03 | Renze | I suspect it's to do with a specific player — probably for Windows |
| 04:01.11 | Sho_ | could be |
| 04:01.25 | Sho_ | icwiener_: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Advanced_Tag_Features_(ATF) |
| 04:01.54 | Sho_ | off to bed, night |
| 04:02.06 | icwiener_ | Sho_: Good night, thx for the link. |
| 04:02.07 | Jucato | night Sho_ |
| 04:02.40 | Renze | Sho_ long, and thanks for all the fish |
| 04:03.56 | Jucato | bah, reading the docs in HTML format on my phone is slow.... :( |
| 04:04.15 | Renze | convenient? |
| 04:04.31 | icwiener_ | Then you have to learn how to read faster. ;) |
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| 04:05.04 | Jucato | icwiener_: I read fast, but the document scrolls slowly |
| 04:05.23 | icwiener_ | Renze: err, meant sophisticated ... damn vocabulary ;) |
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| 04:05.39 | icwiener_ | Jucato: That sucks. |
| 04:06.00 | Jucato | not too mention it's heavy... the whole KWord doc, including images, is around 2.8MB |
| 04:06.03 | Jucato | (HTML) |
| 04:06.19 | Renze | can it view pdfs faster? |
| 04:07.17 | Jucato | once converted to some 3rd party format |
| 04:07.45 | Renze | you could always Print to PDF |
| 04:08.19 | Jucato | yeah, but I have to do it over and over again for each web page. anyway, I can use htmldoc to make them into a pdf |
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| 04:11.37 | Renze | it feels like summer has arrived... and I'm not liking it one bit |
| 04:11.48 | Renze | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.07 | Jucato | :( |
| 04:12.37 | Jucato | things here are a bit more difficult for me. extremely hot mornings/afternoons and extremely cold evenings |
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| 04:15.43 | Dr_willis | the high was 61 today... and it was nice. :) |
| 04:15.48 | Dr_willis | 61F |
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| 04:16.56 | Renze | what's that in a non-obsolete measuring system? ;) |
| 04:18.11 | Renze | ah, 16°C |
| 04:18.24 | Renze | that's still a little warm for my tastes |
| 04:18.29 | Dr_willis | My car gets 10 furlongs per hogshead and thats how i like it! |
| 04:18.48 | Jucato | bah! you'll die here then... |
| 04:19.02 | Renze | Jucato: undoubtedly |
| 04:19.08 | Jucato | the regular temperature here is around 25-30C+ |
| 04:19.14 | Renze | I'm a pale-skinned northern european :D |
| 04:20.07 | Renze | it feels like around 25°C here right now, even though kweather says it's 19°C |
| 04:20.35 | Renze | but that's the temperature at the airport, not in this valley |
| 04:21.14 | Jucato | heh |
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| 04:28.16 | Renze | mmmmm... cold... |
| 04:28.48 | Jucato | heh |
| 04:33.40 | icwiener_ | Gosh! |
| 04:33.58 | Renze | ¿ ? ¿ ? |
| 04:34.34 | icwiener_ | It's about 5°C here and my heating refuses to work. |
| 04:34.45 | Renze | mmmmm... 5°C... |
| 04:35.04 | Renze | actually, I prefer 12-15°C |
| 04:35.05 | icwiener_ | That's a little bit warmer that you icecream. ;) |
| 04:35.33 | icwiener_ | Yeah, me too. But it can be till 20°C sometimes. |
| 04:37.02 | Renze | too bad I don't have the ingredients for gaspacho |
| 04:37.39 | icwiener_ | No garlic? :D |
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| 04:37.45 | Renze | no tomatoes |
| 04:37.56 | Renze | I always have garlic |
| 04:38.35 | icwiener_ | Gaspacho looks delicious. Didn't know that. |
| 04:39.34 | Dr_willis | Use catchup! |
| 04:39.49 | Renze | don't have any ketchup either |
| 04:40.07 | Renze | and it doesn't work in gaspacho |
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| 04:40.54 | Dr_willis | Gas-Pacho :) |
| 04:41.04 | Renze | *poot* |
| 04:41.19 | klerfayt | is where global option for "do not ask again" for "are you sure?"? |
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| 04:42.34 | Dr_willis | klerfayt, you may want to clarify that. |
| 04:43.12 | Renze | maybe I'll just have cheese and crackers for dinner... |
| 04:43.27 | Dr_willis | Grilled Cheese |
| 04:43.40 | klerfayt | everytime you close something, for example tabs in konversation a question pops up that asks me "are you sure?" |
| 04:43.45 | Renze | no, not grilled |
| 04:44.31 | Dr_willis | Toasted |
| 04:44.39 | Renze | no, not toasted |
| 04:44.42 | Renze | cold |
| 04:45.02 | Renze | too hot for hot food |
| 04:45.32 | Dr_willis | frozen fish sticks! |
| 04:45.32 | anisfarhana | put it in your freeze box then ;p |
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| 04:45.58 | klerfayt | I'm bloody sure that I want to close tab then I click X so I was thinking that maybe there is an hidden option that disables questions like: you are retard, are you sure that "close this window/tab/application" is what want? |
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| 04:46.32 | Renze | klerfayt: the simple truth is that most people are that stupid ;) |
| 04:46.39 | icwiener_ | klerfayt: Can't you tell him to not ask you again? |
| 04:46.49 | Renze | anisfarhana: hot food made cold isn't quite right :) |
| 04:47.09 | Dr_willis | iseht that what gaspacho is.... cold tomatoe soup. |
| 04:47.16 | anisfarhana | Renze : nah just enjoy your meal sir |
| 04:47.34 | Renze | Dr_willis: yes, but it is made cold... it is not cooked |
| 04:48.00 | Dr_willis | Go get a can of Beanie-Weinies! |
| 04:48.06 | Dr_willis | its good hot or cold. |
| 04:48.42 | Renze | Dr_willis: I don't think they sell that product in NZ ;) |
| 04:49.18 | Dr_willis | Vegimite! |
| 04:49.37 | Renze | ewwww! |
| 04:49.58 | Dr_willis | Beanie-Weinies - a little can of Baked Beans + hot dogs -- a 'camping' kind of food. :) |
| 04:50.07 | Dr_willis | Instant Noodles. |
| 04:50.19 | Renze | ah, baked beans and sausages... we have those |
| 04:50.57 | Dr_willis | Mixed together? heh :) |
| 04:51.02 | Dr_willis | Vienna Saussages |
| 04:51.14 | Dr_willis | 100 kinds of bologna it seems. |
| 04:51.53 | Renze | Dr_willis: yes, in the same can |
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| 04:52.14 | ssw | a |
| 04:52.15 | ssw | 0䂘))𨤈) |
| 04:52.16 | ssw | whoops |
| 04:52.18 | ssw | sorry guys |
| 04:52.18 | Dr_willis | Heh. 'potted meat products' |
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| 04:52.28 | Renze | Dr_willis: like spam? |
| 04:52.39 | Dr_willis | Had some Deviled Ham Spread once.. it was nasty... even the dog wouldent eat it.. and he will eat anything. |
| 04:52.53 | Dr_willis | Spam is actually quailty compared to some things ive seen. |
| 04:53.06 | Dr_willis | THere used to be a Tobasco/spicey spam that wasnt too bad. |
| 04:53.13 | Dr_willis | Then there used tobe a Turkey Spam. |
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| 05:04.38 | frenchy | /home/frenchy/Backup/camera/computer.jpg |
| 05:04.38 | frenchy | /home/frenchy/Backup/camera/figures.jpg |
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| 05:05.08 | icwiener_ | frenchy: ? |
| 05:05.56 | frenchy | hah sorry |
| 05:06.07 | frenchy | has anyone had the "could not find any sound-engine plugins" problem with amarok on amd64 |
| 05:06.11 | frenchy | i was copying and pasting |
| 05:08.50 | frenchy | anyone? |
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| 05:11.01 | icwiener_ | frenchy: I do not have amd64 but have you installed any amarok-engine? |
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| 05:11.29 | NthDegree | frenchy, you want xine-lib |
| 05:11.48 | frenchy | icwiener_ i can run it as root and it says its using the xine engin but i cant run it as a user |
| 05:12.25 | NthDegree | frenchy, you got arts running? |
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| 05:13.30 | frenchy | NthDegree do i have to have arts, like i said it works when i run it as root |
| 05:13.43 | NthDegree | no you don't need arts |
| 05:13.54 | NthDegree | turn it off was what i was gonna say |
| 05:14.10 | frenchy | oh no its not running |
| 05:14.16 | NthDegree | hmmmmm |
| 05:14.21 | frenchy | its not even installed |
| 05:14.25 | NthDegree | could be a file permissions problem then |
| 05:14.25 | frenchy | im on gentoo too if it helps |
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| 05:15.08 | Renze | frenchy: is your user in the audio group? |
| 05:15.09 | NthDegree | try adding xine and amarok to use flags |
| 05:15.22 | frenchy | yes it is Renze |
| 05:15.40 | NthDegree | chown root:audio /dev/dsp |
| 05:15.43 | frenchy | xine is in the use flag and does amarok really need itself as a use flag? |
| 05:15.50 | NthDegree | no |
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| 05:16.13 | NthDegree | it's probably a permissions problem |
| 05:16.14 | frenchy | chowning didn't work |
| 05:16.19 | NthDegree | ok |
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| 05:16.25 | NthDegree | run amarok in a terminal |
| 05:16.26 | frenchy | thats what iu was thinkin but ive looked at everything i can think of |
| 05:16.38 | frenchy | ok its running |
| 05:16.52 | NthDegree | look at the messages it throws up |
| 05:17.01 | NthDegree | maybe those will help |
| 05:17.46 | frenchy | kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/amarok.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/asx' |
| 05:17.51 | frenchy | a bunch of crap like this |
| 05:17.56 | frenchy | but i think it does that when i run it as root |
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| 05:18.25 | NthDegree | i was wondering if there are any (permission denied) 13 messages |
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| 05:18.39 | frenchy | no there is not |
| 05:20.36 | NthDegree | i'm clueless then |
| 05:20.58 | NthDegree | you outputting via ALSA or OSS |
| 05:21.57 | frenchy | alsa |
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| 05:26.44 | icwiener_ | k3b |
| 05:26.47 | Renze | black_13: k3b |
| 05:27.30 | black_13 | thanks |
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| 05:44.20 | mick_home | hi everyone, i'd like to know the easiest way to cp all email attachments from a person to a directory |
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| 05:44.35 | amit | How can I grab position of mouse and how do I can show/hide mouse in my application? |
| 05:44.47 | mick_home | basically, i get a bunch of malware from one email, and i'd like to copy it all to a directory |
| 05:46.50 | icwiener_ | amit: Try #kde-devel or kde4-devel |
| 05:47.07 | amit | thanks |
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| 05:47.58 | icwiener_ | mick_home: there was a wishlist once but a feature that does that is afair not implemented yet. |
| 05:48.00 | mick_home | currently when working on malware analysis, i have to do all this manually, which is becoming a big headache :-/ |
| 05:48.12 | mick_home | icwiener_: can i use "run command"? |
| 05:48.20 | mick_home | cp $something ? |
| 05:48.39 | mick_home | or another way? (w/o kmail) |
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| 05:55.13 | icwiener_ | mick_home: Maybe "dcop kmail KMailICalIface getAttachment resource sernum filename" |
| 05:56.11 | mick_home | how would i do that? (since it would need to go through all of my emails in one folder) |
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| 05:58.49 | icwiener_ | I do not know. Haven't done this yet. I neither know what sernum and resource mean... you have to play with it. :) |
| 05:59.08 | mick_home | :-/ |
| 05:59.53 | icwiener_ | Or ask in #kde-devel , #kmail or #kmail-devel if it exists. |
| 06:00.46 | Renze | or #kontact |
| 06:00.54 | mick_home | i may need to try PIM |
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| 07:15.08 | khem_kh | Could someone tell me how to compile the translated kdedocmessages? |
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| 08:03.22 | Schalken | how do you execute javascript code in konqueror? |
| 08:04.06 | NthDegree | Schalken, konqueror has javascript on by default |
| 08:04.54 | Schalken | but i mean say a website has a variable c and i, as a user, want to set that variable to 3. how do i? |
| 08:05.13 | Schalken | normally you can just put "javascrip: var c=3;" in the location bar but that doesnt work |
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| 08:25.40 | NthDegree | uh not sure |
| 08:30.15 | Schalken | there has to be a way, i mean...its kde. |
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| 09:12.37 | highneko | Is it possible to queue a music file in amarok with konqueror and the selected file with a hotkey? |
| 09:13.24 | thiago | I don't think so |
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| 09:16.29 | highneko | Maybe by right clicking then pressing a hotkey. I can currently right click a file, and open a menu then left click the option to queue the file, but that takes a long time to queue many files, and I have to wait for some menus to open. |
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| 09:23.13 | chino | why does the console have to wrap lines improperly if i try to make it bigger ? |
| 09:24.07 | n3storm | chino, the console is prepared for serial connections and other devices |
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| 09:24.40 | chino | ok but i want to make it larger and have line wrap to the next line instead of over writing the same line |
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| 09:24.49 | n3storm | ams |
| 09:24.56 | chino | what ? |
| 09:24.57 | n3storm | yes is not working all right |
| 09:25.09 | n3storm | have you got other terminal? |
| 09:25.10 | Ace2016 | hi all |
| 09:25.12 | n3storm | xterm? |
| 09:25.24 | canllaith | That sounds like you don't have your TERM variable set sanely |
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| 09:25.42 | n3storm | yes |
| 09:25.56 | n3storm | that what I supposed, but wanted to make sure |
| 09:26.00 | canllaith | Perhaps you could try 'export TERM=xterm' and see if that helps. |
| 09:27.27 | Ace2016 | how do i search for all the files which have "search term here" within them |
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| 09:28.54 | highneko | Ace2016: grep filename |
| 09:31.06 | Ace2016 | there are lots of file in the dir, i want it to check each one to see if it has the words in there |
| 09:31.26 | NthDegree | Ace2016, easy |
| 09:31.31 | highneko | Ace2016: grep *.ext |
| 09:31.50 | NthDegree | cat /dir-containing-files/* | grep searchterm |
| 09:31.52 | Ace2016 | oh wait i remember konqueror can do it with the search thing |
| 09:32.41 | highneko | cat?! Use "ls | grep" |
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| 09:33.10 | Ace2016 | editing source code is so hard when you have no idea what anything means |
| 09:33.19 | shiznix | ls?! Use "grep <match> *" |
| 09:33.21 | shiznix | :) |
| 09:33.59 | highneko | Ok, ok, you win shiznix, but ls > cat. |
| 09:34.43 | NthDegree | highneko, he wants to find a file containing a specific word |
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| 09:34.47 | NthDegree | not the name of a file lol |
| 09:35.03 | NthDegree | hence cat |
| 09:35.34 | highneko | NthDegree: Oh, well, I alreayd said "grep *.ext". |
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| 09:41.25 | highneko | You two just confused me. Thats my excuse. :3 |
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| 09:45.17 | highneko | Is it possible to view remote files using konqueror maybe using ssh? |
| 09:46.37 | sredna | highneko: Use the fish:/ protocol |
| 09:46.53 | highneko | K, I'll try that. Thnx. |
| 09:47.31 | highneko | sredna: Cool, that works great. Thank you. |
| 09:47.40 | sredna | Np :-) |
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| 10:31.35 | ty | ? |
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| 10:32.33 | Solaris444 | Hi fellas. |
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| 10:32.45 | Solaris444 | Sorry to bother you, but wierd issue. |
| 10:32.49 | Solaris444 | "Align to grid" no longer works. |
| 10:32.54 | Solaris444 | On the desktop. |
| 10:33.06 | Solaris444 | Any ideas what could cause this? |
| 10:33.08 | Solaris444 | SuSE 10.1 |
| 10:33.16 | Solaris444 | KDE3.5.1 |
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| 10:40.49 | Techdeck` | Hello, how can I change the keyboard layout switching hotkeys (ctrl-alt-k) to alt-shift? |
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| 10:41.34 | annma | you can't |
| 10:41.38 | Techdeck` | :( |
| 10:41.40 | Techdeck` | are you sure? |
| 10:42.09 | annma | if you manage it then you tell me |
| 10:42.25 | annma | i am sure i could not |
| 10:43.06 | Techdeck` | :\ |
| 10:43.17 | mariux | oh im sure its possible |
| 10:43.18 | Techdeck` | it must be possible, can't be we're the only one who thought about it |
| 10:43.20 | mariux | dcop something |
| 10:43.28 | Techdeck` | ones* |
| 10:43.32 | Techdeck` | there :p |
| 10:43.38 | Techdeck` | he would know :p |
| 10:43.40 | annma | mariux: ? dcop? |
| 10:44.13 | annma | dcop has nothing to do with keuboard switching |
| 10:44.16 | mariux | kde scripting |
| 10:44.42 | mariux | annma: but it might have an option for switching the layout |
| 10:44.45 | Techdeck` | you could probably alias alt-shift to do what ctrl-alt-k does |
| 10:45.01 | mariux | so you could bind a new keyboard shortcut to a dcop command |
| 10:45.02 | annma | mariux: this is not what we want at all |
| 10:45.11 | mariux | yes it is |
| 10:45.14 | annma | no |
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| 10:45.23 | mariux | do you HAVE to get rid of the old command? |
| 10:45.32 | annma | you have 3 keyboards layouts |
| 10:45.34 | Techdeck` | I don't mind having both |
| 10:45.49 | annma | you want to switch easily between them |
| 10:46.01 | annma | ow will dcop help? |
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| 10:46.02 | mariux | so if dcop support changing keyboard layout it would be possible to make new shortbuts |
| 10:46.21 | annma | using alt shift? |
| 10:46.26 | mariux | sure |
| 10:46.32 | annma | tell me how |
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| 10:46.52 | mariux | im no dcop guy, but the keyboard shortcut part can be done with khotkeys |
| 10:46.55 | mariux | its in kcontrol |
| 10:47.04 | annma | try alt shift |
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| 10:47.24 | mariux | yes? |
| 10:47.28 | annma | if he asks the question and if i said no then it is not so easy |
| 10:47.33 | mariux | you want JUST alt and shift= |
| 10:47.37 | annma | so you tell me |
| 10:47.42 | annma | yes |
| 10:47.42 | mariux | ? |
| 10:47.48 | annma | try it |
| 10:47.54 | annma | see by yourself |
| 10:48.00 | mariux | ok, i thought you wanted that pluss a key |
| 10:48.24 | mariux | i doubt that is possible |
| 10:48.49 | mariux | sorry |
| 10:48.59 | mariux | alt+shift+a would essentially be the same though |
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| 10:50.00 | annma | no |
| 10:50.17 | annma | because a is not the same key in avery layout |
| 10:50.26 | mariux | haha :) |
| 10:50.27 | annma | avery/every |
| 10:50.40 | annma | so it won't work |
| 10:51.02 | mariux | i see |
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| 10:54.53 | MetaBookfoziS | hey all, i have a crashing konsole, if i start that it shows for a milisec and then kcrash pops up with this: /usr/lib/libkdeinit_konsole.so |
| 10:55.05 | MetaBookfoziS | umph sorry so with this:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33885/ |
| 10:55.42 | MetaBookfoziS | please help me, i think messed ups omething with my notebook-crash (when i unplugged the adapter cable but i forget the battery isn't in the machine) |
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| 10:56.08 | thiago | there's no information in that |
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| 10:56.34 | MetaBookfoziS | okay, but i can'T get any information from other way |
| 10:56.37 | MetaBookfoziS | in syslog nothing |
| 10:56.52 | MetaBookfoziS | and if i start it from xterm it only says it starts kcrash... |
| 10:56.57 | MetaBookfoziS | or anywhere else? |
| 10:57.21 | MetaBookfoziS | its kubuntu edgy, on a k7 notebook. |
| 10:57.26 | thiago | try reinstalling the KDE packages, to see if it resolves any corruption |
| 10:57.32 | thiago | but the problem is probably inside your configuration files |
| 10:57.36 | Eldarin | Hello! When viewing png images konqueror show zooming buttons and listbox with "Fit to Width" and other zooming options... but when viewing tga images no such zooming helpers are displayed. Is it the way it should be? |
| 10:58.09 | MetaBookfoziS | thiago > and how can i do that? remove purge konsole? |
| 10:58.24 | thiago | MetaBookfoziS: just reinstall the KDE packages on top of the existing ones |
| 10:58.35 | thiago | Eldarin: yes |
| 10:59.07 | Eldarin | Scaling works differently for different file types? |
| 10:59.26 | thiago | different kparts support different features |
| 11:00.39 | MetaBookfoziS | what is the main kde packages? |
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| 11:01.44 | thiago | MetaBookfoziS: no idea. Ask a kubuntu channel. |
| 11:02.06 | MetaBookfoziS | i doed that |
| 11:02.18 | MetaBookfoziS | but i thouhgt this is a kde specific problem |
| 11:02.30 | thiago | corruption is not a KDE problem |
| 11:02.43 | MetaBookfoziS | sorry i can'T appologise me |
| 11:02.52 | MetaBookfoziS | so my corruption is in kde |
| 11:02.54 | thiago | you can try moving ~/.kde away (renaming it) to and see if a new configuration fixes the problem |
| 11:03.07 | MetaBookfoziS | hm! that's a good idea thx! i try |
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| 11:04.38 | meta | not:/ |
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| 11:08.04 | meta | i try reinstall kubuntu-desktop |
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| 11:08.30 | meta | it installs al crappy thing that i don'T need:((( hplip bluez and cups and other 100mbs of crap:T/ |
| 11:09.16 | sredna | meta: Then don't install it :) |
| 11:09.32 | sredna | You can just install the packages you want... |
| 11:09.47 | meta | i can't do that... kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, that contains all things that a normal kubuntu desktop needs:/ |
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| 11:09.58 | meta | "needs" |
| 11:10.00 | UnionPivo | morning |
| 11:10.16 | meta | morning |
| 11:10.47 | sredna | meta: Well, just install the packates you need. You can look at it's depends list to see which packages it contains |
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| 11:12.11 | ty | hello |
| 11:12.31 | UnionPivo | a quick question, is there any good offline english dictionarly for kde (dict without a need of internet connection) |
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| 11:13.01 | UnionPivo | and i mean full dictionary with full descriptin of words |
| 11:13.18 | tty | i do not konw |
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| 11:14.14 | meta | try search in packages description |
| 11:14.22 | tty | www.lingoes.cn |
| 11:14.40 | tty | mabey u like it |
| 11:14.53 | UnionPivo | will check it out thanks |
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| 11:18.42 | ty | this,it |
| 11:18.50 | meta | hmm the apt-get install --reinstall kdebase* |
| 11:18.56 | meta | says broken packages |
| 11:19.28 | meta | konsole 4:3.5.5-ubuntu3 needed but only 4:3.5.5-ubuntu3-ubuntu3v1 or wahtever able to install |
| 11:19.50 | meta | wtf? |
| 11:20.02 | meta | the package that say it is kdebase-dev |
| 11:20.20 | meta | how can i appear that? |
| 11:20.27 | meta | dis |
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| 11:22.45 | sredna | meta: Ask in #kubuntu please |
| 11:23.15 | meta | it haven'T got any conenction with ubuntu |
| 11:23.22 | meta | i want to reisntall kde |
| 11:23.34 | meta | that is a good question in #kde, not? |
| 11:23.36 | sredna | meta: Apt-get is not a KDE program |
| 11:24.20 | meta | yes it a basic program, that i can'T handle better, i can't say to apt-get to disappear the kdebase-dev |
| 11:24.21 | sredna | meta: If you want to know how to install from source, this is the place. Packages belongs with the system providing the package manager. |
| 11:24.32 | meta | okay. |
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| 11:25.20 | sredna | meta: Simply because your chances of a meaningfull answer is better there. I talk from experience ;) |
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| 11:26.45 | meta | :) |
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| 11:58.42 | tcpsyn | is there an alternative to korganizer? |
| 12:02.30 | sredna | tcpsyn: Not a KDE one, but there is a mozilla project and evolution for example |
| 12:02.57 | tcpsyn | yeah, I'm just trying to get notifications of calendar events to pop up in the systray. |
| 12:03.14 | tcpsyn | I'd like to just use evolution, but no love. |
| 12:04.02 | thiago | use Kontact then |
| 12:04.19 | tcpsyn | thiago, nopa, I've got to sync the calendar with scheduleworld. |
| 12:04.29 | thiago | and there's no plugin for that? |
| 12:04.54 | tcpsyn | I tried to use caldav to just grab a read only copy of the appointments.. and it worked, but wouldn't display alarms. |
| 12:05.05 | tcpsyn | thiago, no, not yet. |
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| 13:33.33 | paoleela | Hello. If I press Ctrl konqueror shows shortcuts for url links. Can I deactivate this? |
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| 13:48.14 | paoleela | Because I switch Desktop by Ctrl+F1 generally. |
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| 13:56.45 | Sho_ | paoleela: yes, but it's a config file option iirc |
| 13:57.05 | Sho_ | paoleela: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1569 |
| 13:57.16 | paoleela | Sho_: ok. |
| 13:57.32 | Jucato | ooh Sho_! :) |
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| 14:43.20 | simon23 | hi - anyone knows the sim instant messenger for kde ? |
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| 14:44.17 | simon23 | i have the problem that the message window is closed everytime i am sending messages.... can anyone tell me how to change that ? i must have changed any option in the preferences window... |
| 14:45.23 | NthDegree | simon23, try the IRC channel for that messenger |
| 14:47.17 | simon23 | did that - they must be sleeping... |
| 14:47.31 | simon23 | but thanks... |
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| 14:48.07 | simon23 | unfortunately this is the only IM for linux that can receive icq files... |
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| 14:52.33 | NthDegree | ah i see, try getting the person to use direct connect on IRC |
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| 14:57.59 | a9913 | how do i disable borders on konsole (other than the ones put by kwin)? |
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| 15:08.24 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: Hey ! |
| 15:08.37 | kdeuser^ | Renze: Hey ! |
| 15:09.21 | Jucato | hi kdeuser^ |
| 15:09.28 | kdeuser^ | hey... |
| 15:09.44 | kdeuser^ | What`s up buddy ? |
| 15:10.03 | Jucato | not much. writing stuff |
| 15:10.12 | kdeuser^ | a book ? |
| 15:10.27 | Jucato | no |
| 15:10.39 | kdeuser^ | notes ? |
| 15:10.44 | Jucato | sort of |
| 15:10.50 | kdeuser^ | Hmm... |
| 15:11.46 | Jucato | lol |
| 15:11.53 | Jucato | no, not "study" notes |
| 15:12.00 | Jucato | more like, blog posts |
| 15:12.02 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: i am using konversation now... its a diff from xchat |
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| 15:12.22 | kdeuser^ | oh.. you have blog.. what do you write about ? |
| 15:12.33 | kdeuser^ | i updated to kde 3.5 |
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| 15:12.48 | Jucato | of course it's a whole different beast from xchat :) |
| 15:13.04 | kdeuser^ | Ya.. though it looked same in kde 3.4 |
| 15:13.52 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: so what do you write about ? |
| 15:13.57 | kdeuser^ | in your blog |
| 15:14.05 | Jucato | life and Linux (sometimes) |
| 15:14.18 | kdeuser^ | me too... not about life though |
| 15:14.26 | kdeuser^ | just Linux.. |
| 15:14.37 | Jucato | hehe |
| 15:14.45 | Theory | for some people the two are the same |
| 15:14.54 | Jucato | heh yeah |
| 15:14.56 | kdeuser^ | tell me your adrs later.. i will glane through it.. |
| 15:15.10 | kdeuser^ | Theory: Ya buddy.. |
| 15:15.11 | Jucato | kdeuser^: um.. right now? I'm still in the process of archiving and migrating |
| 15:15.22 | kdeuser^ | migrating ? |
| 15:15.26 | kdeuser^ | to a new blog ? |
| 15:15.27 | Jucato | when I said "life", I meant personal life, though |
| 15:15.36 | Jucato | yeah... actually thinking about migrating... |
| 15:16.06 | kdeuser^ | ya.. i got that.. |
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| 15:16.19 | Jucato | not really sure yet... :( |
| 15:16.25 | kdeuser^ | Fine... |
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| 15:16.41 | kdeuser^ | Looks like Renze is sleeping.. |
| 15:16.47 | Jucato | he should be |
| 15:16.54 | kdeuser^ | ya.. |
| 15:16.57 | Jucato | it's around 2am+ there |
| 15:17.17 | kdeuser^ | here its 8:47pm.. your place ? |
| 15:18.04 | Jucato | 11:15 pm |
| 15:18.18 | kdeuser^ | wow... ur not sleeping ? |
| 15:18.35 | Jucato | too early. I sleep around the witching hour :) |
| 15:18.42 | kdeuser^ | lol |
| 15:20.33 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: you listen to podcasts ? any podcasts on kde ? |
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| 15:21.19 | Jucato | http://jucato.org/gallery/d/56-1/Jucato.jpg |
| 15:21.33 | Jucato | lol sorry |
| 15:21.35 | Jucato | wrong link |
| 15:21.46 | Jucato | http://radio.kde.org/ |
| 15:21.52 | kdeuser^ | thats ur pic ? |
| 15:22.00 | Jucato | (that was embarrasing...) |
| 15:22.14 | Jucato | yeah, unfortunately, that's me |
| 15:22.26 | kdeuser^ | lol.. thats was really funny.. you pasted the wrong link.. |
| 15:22.48 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: u listen to that podcast ? |
| 15:22.51 | kdeuser^ | how is it ? |
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| 15:23.13 | Jucato | quite interesting. it's not a professional podcast though |
| 15:23.31 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: I am just now getting into podcasts.. |
| 15:23.36 | Jucato | ah |
| 15:23.43 | kdeuser^ | thats ok.. |
| 15:23.54 | Jucato | there's another good podcast, but more oriented towards beginners, and not KDE specific |
| 15:24.03 | kdeuser^ | which one ? |
| 15:24.05 | Jucato | http://www.linuxreality.com/ |
| 15:24.11 | NthDegree | kdeuser^, twit.tv |
| 15:24.13 | mati | hello, i have a question about konsole. xterm uses resources like "Xterm.color0" etc, is it possible to change colors for konsole that way somehow? |
| 15:24.24 | NthDegree | FLOSS weekly |
| 15:24.24 | NthDegree | and security now |
| 15:24.37 | kdeuser^ | mati: yes |
| 15:24.43 | NthDegree | mati, there are colour themes |
| 15:24.57 | kdeuser^ | schema in settings |
| 15:25.28 | mati | doesn't that only change your foreground and background? |
| 15:25.37 | mati | cause that's not what i was looking for |
| 15:25.51 | mati | i want to define all the colors it uses |
| 15:26.01 | kdeuser^ | you can change font as well.. |
| 15:26.02 | Jucato | no, you can also change Color 0, Color 1, Color 2 |
| 15:26.15 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Konsole -> Schema tab |
| 15:26.20 | mati | ok let me go check it out |
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| 15:26.33 | kdeuser^ | just click on settings -> configure konsole - > schema |
| 15:26.35 | mati | alright, thanks |
| 15:26.38 | kdeuser^ | np |
| 15:26.41 | mati | didn't notice the dropdown menu |
| 15:26.48 | kdeuser^ | lol |
| 15:26.53 | mati | ^__^ |
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| 15:27.25 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: i got to listen to the episode 41 |
| 15:27.43 | kdeuser^ | i always get error in compiling from source |
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| 15:28.12 | kdeuser^ | i am currently listening to lottalinuxlinks podcast |
| 15:28.15 | rick276 | does someone used suse_kickoff? I try to install in my slackware ..but fails.. |
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| 15:28.36 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: have u listened to that ? |
| 15:28.46 | Jucato | not yet |
| 15:28.50 | kdeuser^ | even diggination is good.. |
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| 15:28.56 | kdeuser^ | revision3.com |
| 15:29.11 | kdeuser^ | they have both audio and video pocasts |
| 15:29.25 | Jucato | nice |
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| 15:29.34 | Jucato | I haven't had time to listen to podcasts lately though |
| 15:29.40 | annma | hi all |
| 15:29.44 | Jucato | I have a huge backlog of kde and linuxreality podcasts |
| 15:29.46 | kdeuser^ | just studying huh / |
| 15:29.54 | Jucato | hi annma! just the person I've been waiting for :) |
| 15:29.55 | kdeuser^ | backup ? |
| 15:30.16 | Jucato | kdeuser^: I usually download the new podcasts immediately, but never got the chance to listen to them |
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| 15:30.46 | kdeuser^ | Me too.. i have 20 more to listen.. though i delete them once i am finished listening |
| 15:31.13 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: annma is ur friend ? same town ? |
| 15:31.16 | Jucato | I burn them |
| 15:31.23 | Jucato | kdeuser^: no, she's far away |
| 15:31.27 | kdeuser^ | Oh.. |
| 15:31.35 | akki | Kde isn't displaying Hindi language fonts, all I see are blocks instead. How can I get this fixed ? |
| 15:31.38 | annma | we're virtual KDE friends |
| 15:31.46 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 15:31.47 | kdeuser^ | cool ! |
| 15:33.07 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: so you have a cd archive of podcasts ! |
| 15:33.18 | Jucato | annma: question about the guide I'm writing |
| 15:33.20 | kdeuser^ | how many do you have so far ? |
| 15:33.35 | Jucato | er.. forgot |
| 15:33.51 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: show annma ur photo.. |
| 15:33.55 | annma | akki: are Hindi characters displayed in other apps? |
| 15:34.19 | annma | cool |
| 15:34.32 | Jucato | huh? |
| 15:34.36 | akki | annma, yes they are displayed properly in gtk based apps |
| 15:34.40 | annma | you're cool |
| 15:34.52 | Jucato | ah hehe :) |
| 15:34.59 | annma | akki: weird, what font fdo you use in KControl? |
| 15:35.18 | Jucato | hehe yeah.. |
| 15:35.35 | akki | annma, font fdo? |
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| 15:35.45 | annma | font do you use |
| 15:35.57 | sleek | is there a way to make it so that when i plug a usb flash drive into my computer, an icon for it automagically appears on my desktop? |
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| 15:35.58 | annma | new keyboard, I cannot type properly akki |
| 15:36.10 | Jucato | annma: the guide I'm making, where will it be going/where will it be put up? |
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| 15:36.25 | annma | Jucato: in the User Guide maybe? |
| 15:36.28 | kdeuser^ | your writing a guide for what ? |
| 15:36.44 | annma | you have until 16th december for it to get in 3.5.6 |
| 15:37.08 | kdeuser^ | annma: i would like to write a guide too ... |
| 15:37.10 | Jucato | annma: I'm done, actually. getting ready to send it to you :) |
| 15:37.12 | akki | annma, Im not sure as to which fonts do I need ? I'm using stock Mandriva 2007.0 |
| 15:37.15 | annma | akki: what font do you use in KDE and what font do you use in GTK Control |
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| 15:37.36 | annma | kdeuser^: write! what is your expertise about? |
| 15:37.45 | annma | Jucato: :) |
| 15:37.56 | kdeuser^ | annma: u tell me .. |
| 15:37.59 | Jucato | O.o |
| 15:38.06 | kdeuser^ | konversation ? |
| 15:38.12 | annma | kdeuser^: kdm doc is really old |
| 15:38.23 | annma | konversation, I have no idea |
| 15:38.26 | kdeuser^ | ok.. |
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| 15:38.34 | annma | i don' use konvi |
| 15:38.43 | kdeuser^ | oh.. |
| 15:38.45 | annma | ;) |
| 15:39.01 | Jucato | I'm kurrently enjoying emoticons on Konvi |
| 15:39.03 | kdeuser^ | anything easy to get started.. a simple app |
| 15:39.07 | Jucato | er.. currently* |
| 15:39.25 | annma | i'd like to do like we do for bugs but for apps, do a week-end for 1 app, test, debug and write docs |
| 15:39.36 | akki | annma, if u are using for the default fonts being used -> Sans Serif |
| 15:39.40 | kdeuser^ | annma: what about kicker or kpages or something like that small |
| 15:40.05 | annma | akki: what about gtk apps, what font is it? |
| 15:40.19 | annma | kdeuser^: look at the current doc and see if you can improve |
| 15:40.27 | annma | or at the user guide |
| 15:40.28 | Jucato | kdeuser^: it's better to work on/about something you're familiar with |
| 15:40.32 | kdeuser^ | Ok.. Sure... |
| 15:40.38 | kdeuser^ | Jucato: Like.. |
| 15:40.53 | Jucato | kdeuser^: um.. you're the only one who knows what you're familiar with |
| 15:40.58 | annma | ;) |
| 15:40.59 | Jucato | we're not psychic |
| 15:41.01 | Jucato | :P |
| 15:41.12 | kdeuser^ | i like to write and take screenshots and stuff |
| 15:41.52 | annma | kdeuser^: go for it! |
| 15:42.03 | Jucato | too general, but it's a start, I guess. but most docs don't use screenshots... |
| 15:42.03 | annma | there are tons of bug reports about obsolete doc |
| 15:42.15 | Jucato | oh, I didn't use screenshots on mine annma |
| 15:42.15 | akki | annma, I'm not sure as I don't have Gnome installed and I don't know which font is used by mandriva by default for gtk apps, Although it usually is Sans . |
| 15:42.22 | Jucato | hard to put screenshots on plain text files :P |
| 15:42.26 | annma | and screenshots! you need default KDE style and theme, kdeuser^ |
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| 15:42.34 | kdeuser^ | ya. Fine.. |
| 15:42.48 | kdeuser^ | annma: name one old obsolete doc.. |
| 15:42.58 | annma | akki: can you point me an URL for a website that does not work for you please? |
| 15:43.02 | kdeuser^ | i am not that much into docs. as i don`t read them :) |
| 15:43.07 | annma | kdeuser^: let me look |
| 15:43.08 | NthDegree | kdeuser^, bitstream vera sans |
| 15:43.22 | kdeuser^ | NthDegree: don`t get you ? |
| 15:43.34 | NthDegree | wrong person sorry lol |
| 15:43.35 | Jucato | annma: sorry to bombard you with questions, do you prefer to read black text over white background or white over black in web pages? |
| 15:43.39 | annma | NthDegree: that was for akki |
| 15:43.44 | kdeuser^ | oh.. fine.. |
| 15:43.57 | annma | black over white |
| 15:44.11 | Jucato | ok :) |
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| 15:44.42 | annma | kdeuser^: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110252 for example |
| 15:44.45 | kdeuser^ | we have to submit as webpages ? |
| 15:45.05 | annma | no, as text |
| 15:45.12 | annma | it'll be docbook |
| 15:45.18 | annma | but i'll do the tags |
| 15:45.22 | Jucato | I was just asking. I wanted to show annma something that I could do on plain text :) |
| 15:45.33 | kdeuser^ | annma: i don`t understanf anything about that bug.. |
| 15:45.37 | akki | annma, http://www.google.co.in/ |
| 15:45.37 | akki | click on Hindi |
| 15:46.00 | akki | annma, http://www.google.co.in/hi |
| 15:46.02 | annma | akki: oops, squares for me as well, let me see what i can do |
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| 15:46.21 | Jucato | squares here too |
| 15:46.29 | Jucato | needs some fonts installed, I guess :( |
| 15:47.04 | akki | yes, but which ones :???:) |
| 15:47.23 | Jucato | hm... |
| 15:47.31 | Jucato | hold on, let me see what I installed to get Japanese text |
| 15:49.10 | Jucato | hm.. I installed ttf-kochi* fonts to get Japanese fonts... I'm not sure if they're called the same in other distros |
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| 15:49.56 | annma | ok got it |
| 15:50.01 | Jucato | looks like I have ttf-indic-fonts |
| 15:50.14 | annma | akki: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16645 |
| 15:50.28 | annma | download those fonts, unpack them in your home |
| 15:50.37 | xushi | can i tell kget to stop downloading everything in 2 hours time ? |
| 15:50.56 | logixoul | xushi: you can make kget quit after 2 hours |
| 15:51.00 | logixoul | xushi: is that good? |
| 15:51.03 | xushi | excellent! how so ? |
| 15:51.05 | Jucato | wow! installing ttf-indic-fonts installs lots of stuff |
| 15:51.09 | annma | then open KControl and in System Administration go to Fopnt Installer |
| 15:51.11 | xushi | logixoul: you saved my day |
| 15:51.48 | annma | then install the 4 fonts and restart Konqueror |
| 15:52.10 | Jucato | annma: oh crap... I didn't include installing fonts (I only focused on the modules under Appearance & Themes) |
| 15:52.20 | logixoul | xushi: in a terminal write something like sleep 7200 && killall kget |
| 15:52.29 | logixoul | xushi: hacky hacky :) |
| 15:52.31 | xushi | 7200 as in seconds ? |
| 15:52.34 | logixoul | yep |
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| 15:52.47 | annma | akki: did you follow what I said? |
| 15:53.04 | akki | annma, thanks I did tried that a while ago, didn't work , lemme try again. |
| 15:53.10 | xushi | logixoul: lol cheeky |
| 15:53.10 | logixoul | xushi: or even simpler: sleep 2h && killall kget |
| 15:53.29 | annma | akki: it just worked for me |
| 15:53.38 | xushi | thanks =) |
| 15:53.46 | Pinaraf | xushi: you should perhaps use DCOP to stop kget instead of killall, it's cleaner |
| 15:53.55 | xushi | Pinaraf: how so ? |
| 15:54.01 | Pinaraf | dcop kget MainApplication-Interface quit |
| 15:54.04 | logixoul | Pinaraf is right |
| 15:54.07 | Jucato | annma: is it ok if I left out Fonts and Screen Savers? |
| 15:54.27 | Jucato | I'm not familiar with installing those.... |
| 15:54.29 | xushi | sleep 2h && dcop kget MainApplication-Interface quit ? |
| 15:54.32 | logixoul | yes |
| 15:54.35 | Pinaraf | yes |
| 15:54.36 | xushi | thanks |
| 15:54.36 | annma | Jucato: yes |
| 15:54.43 | Jucato | whew! thanks :) |
| 15:56.17 | annma | akki: you'll need more fonts for the other languages like bn |
| 15:56.24 | logixoul | xushi: a gui way to do the same is provided by KAlarm btw |
| 15:56.45 | akki | annma, still doesn't work :( |
| 15:56.55 | annma | akki: did you restart konqueror? |
| 15:57.00 | annma | it works here! |
| 15:57.19 | akki | annma, killall konqueror and launched konqueror after that. |
| 15:57.41 | akki | annma, I installed the fonts as root should that matter ? |
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| 15:57.58 | annma | i installed locally but it should be the same |
| 15:58.30 | annma | in View, look at encoding and set it to detect semi-automatically |
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| 15:59.25 | Jucato | hm... does anyone know if there's a word such as theming or themeing, and how is it spelled properly? |
| 15:59.34 | annma | theming |
| 15:59.43 | annma | to theme |
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| 16:00.06 | Jucato | ah thanks. |
| 16:00.09 | annma | you theme, you were theming, you're going to be theming |
| 16:00.13 | annma | ;) |
| 16:00.18 | Jucato | I tried to refrain from using that word in the guide lol |
| 16:00.28 | annma | akki: you have Mandriva? |
| 16:00.32 | Jucato | coz I didn't know if the word was accepted or properly spelled |
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| 16:00.55 | akki | annma: yes |
| 16:01.10 | Jucato | annma: can I PM you a question? |
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| 16:01.49 | Jucato | s/can/may.... |
| 16:01.53 | xushi | mm, emerging kalarm |
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| 16:02.00 | xushi | this is why i love kde!! |
| 16:02.02 | annma | Jucato: yes |
| 16:02.14 | annma | akki: i am looking, I also have Mandriva |
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| 16:03.21 | akki | annma, (mandriva 2007.0) I can't see the set encoding setting in konqueror :O, all this worked perfectly in 2006 |
| 16:03.32 | Jucato | Sho_: ping? |
| 16:03.44 | Sho_ | Jucato: semi-pong |
| 16:04.01 | Jucato | Sho_: can I PM you a question, too? (confirming something) |
| 16:04.03 | annma | akki: it worked and you updated or is it a new install? |
| 16:04.21 | akki | annma, clean install |
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| 16:06.13 | akki | annma, found the encoding setting, it's set as semi-automatic by default |
| 16:07.39 | akki | annma, ok the font's are working, thanks |
| 16:07.53 | annma | oh, cool |
| 16:07.55 | xushi | nice, does kalarm use cron? |
| 16:08.09 | annma | I installed a bunch from mandriva but they don't have indic rpm |
| 16:08.49 | annma | http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads akki |
| 16:08.57 | annma | that might help you |
| 16:09.23 | annma | Hindi is Right To Left, right? |
| 16:09.47 | akki | annma nope it's a normal left to right |
| 16:09.52 | akki | script |
| 16:09.55 | annma | ah OK |
| 16:10.38 | annma | what is te, ak? |
| 16:10.57 | annma | the link in Google hi for te is still squares for me |
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| 16:12.00 | akki | annma, those are other langs, bengali, telegu |
| 16:12.17 | annma | so they need special fonts as well |
| 16:12.26 | annma | thanks for educating me, akki |
| 16:12.58 | akki | annma, thanks I've done all this before even got it to work last time but the fonts stopped working after a reboot Hope keep they working this time. Thanks a lot |
| 16:13.18 | annma | mandriva has bengali fonts |
| 16:13.31 | annma | fonts-ttf-bengali |
| 16:14.09 | annma | i think it needs X restart to work after install |
| 16:14.34 | akki | annma, mandriva has historically had all the indic fonts and splays all of em properly but 20007 dunno y is missing some of em |
| 16:14.39 | Jucato | annma: maybe if there's an fonts-ttf-indic (meta)package ? |
| 16:14.49 | annma | Jucato: no indic, no |
| 16:14.53 | Jucato | ah... |
| 16:15.07 | annma | i guess it's a bug in mandriva 2007 |
| 16:15.17 | Jucato | I had ttf-indic-fonts here, which also installs all the other fonts like bengali |
| 16:15.44 | akki | annma, thanks a lot . |
| 16:16.02 | annma | you're welcome |
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| 16:19.34 | Jucato | annma, Sho_: message sent... I'm quite nervous :P |
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| 16:21.18 | annma | nothing yet, Jucato |
| 16:21.27 | Jucato | aw... |
| 16:21.34 | Jucato | Gmail's not cooperating.. |
| 16:21.57 | Jucato | KMail said it was sent... maybe a few minutes more... |
| 16:22.27 | annma | my server is slow, Jucato |
| 16:22.49 | Jucato | ah... aren't the @kde.org e-mails all in one server? |
| 16:23.24 | annma | no, it's a front end |
| 16:23.35 | annma | only a front end |
| 16:23.37 | Jucato | aaah |
| 16:25.00 | Sho_ | Jucato: Some people do have mail accounts on ktown directly, but the vast majority of kde.org addresses are redirects |
| 16:25.09 | Jucato | aah |
| 16:25.15 | Sho_ | (and the people in the former group are mostly the sysadmins themselves) |
| 16:26.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: I'm caught up in some discussions and cooking dinner atm - I'll read it later this evening and report back :) |
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| 16:27.22 | Jucato | Sho_: ok. I might not be online anymore. take your time :) |
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| 16:28.14 | unity | hey, is there a way in kmail to set up a default template for composing messages? |
| 16:28.31 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I am still angry at you. Yes, you are an op and can ban me immediately, but that won't change the fact that I am angry at you. |
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| 16:28.43 | Jucato | O.o |
| 16:28.48 | Oleg_ | canllaith: I AM VERY ANGRY AT YOU |
| 16:28.51 | unity | whenever i start composing a message, I want the Dear ____, line to already be there |
| 16:29.19 | unity | (i only email one person, so i don't need a different thing to replace the ___ each time.) |
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| 16:30.00 | annma | Oleg_: ?? |
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| 16:30.10 | _zfr_ | Hi, i use kde 3.5.5 (debian etch), i cant find the minimize button on the panel, there is no ? |
| 16:30.10 | Oleg_ | yes? |
| 16:30.54 | annma | _zfr_: you can hide it with the arrow on the right |
| 16:31.00 | Oleg_ | annma: oh, and I am back in college, by the way |
| 16:31.27 | akki | annma, The font display(Hindi) works only if the font's are installed as a user, could you confirm this ? |
| 16:31.30 | annma | so please stop shouting |
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| 16:31.38 | annma | that was for Oleg_ |
| 16:31.51 | annma | akki: I installed as a user |
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| 16:32.31 | Oleg_ | annma: I am very angry at Jessica |
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| 16:32.39 | _zfr_ | annma: hm??? i want close/minimize all the windows to the panel with one button |
| 16:32.40 | Cybersoft | Im in ur window, logging ur conversations |
| 16:32.57 | Jucato | O.o |
| 16:32.58 | logixoul | unity: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1015 |
| 16:32.59 | annma | _zfr_: it is an applet |
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| 16:33.16 | _zfr_ | annma: hmm what is it named ? |
| 16:33.27 | Jucato | _zfr_: Show Desktop applet |
| 16:33.31 | annma | _zfr_: i did not get it but now i undersdtand, right click on panel -> add applet |
| 16:33.48 | annma | Show Desktop |
| 16:33.53 | akki | annma, can u delete the font's from the user, install them as root and check if it still works ? it' doesn't here. |
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| 16:34.08 | annma | akki: I'll try that |
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| 16:34.53 | _zfr_ | thanks :) |
| 16:35.24 | annma | akki: it does not work |
| 16:35.36 | annma | maybe it is a KDE bug then |
| 16:35.40 | unity | logixoul: thanks, i'll take a look at it |
| 16:35.42 | annma | this is weird |
| 16:36.07 | Jucato | maybe a KDE restart is needed if the font was added as root? |
| 16:36.18 | annma | usually not |
| 16:36.20 | Jucato | which, if true, would still be weird |
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| 16:37.08 | dauoalagio | hello, my kde taskbar shows up at startup, then dissappears quickly. any ideas? |
| 16:37.23 | logixoul | dauoalagio: launch kicker. does the taskbar appear? |
| 16:37.49 | dauoalagio | logixoul, no |
| 16:37.58 | Jucato | dauoalagio: you could also check the Panel's Hiding settings in KControl -> Desktop -> Panels |
| 16:38.17 | logixoul | dauoalagio: if you launch it from a terminal, are any errors reported? |
| 16:38.34 | dauoalagio | logixoul, says it's already running |
| 16:38.54 | Jucato | dauoalagio: check the Hiding settings |
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| 16:39.03 | Jucato | wb annma |
| 16:39.06 | Oleg_ | annma: I need you to help me with something which is unrelated to kde. You speak French; that's why I need your help please. |
| 16:39.11 | dauoalagio | Jucato, thanks it's good now |
| 16:39.17 | dauoalagio | logixoul, thanks, too. |
| 16:39.23 | Jucato | kicker does that at times.. suddenly hiding |
| 16:39.34 | dauoalagio | no, i had it hiding already. |
| 16:39.43 | dauoalagio | and i guess accidentally clicked something |
| 16:39.46 | dauoalagio | and it screwed up |
| 16:39.57 | Jucato | dauoalagio: yes, it sometimes relocates itself with a wrong click/mouse movement |
| 16:40.00 | dauoalagio | and i didn't know the command, KControl, to get in. |
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| 16:40.32 | dauoalagio | all right, cool, thanks |
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| 16:41.05 | Jucato | akki, annma: did restarting KDE work? |
| 16:41.13 | annma | akki: no it did not work |
| 16:41.23 | Jucato | aw... :( |
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| 16:42.25 | akki | annma, had to reboot couldn't catch your response to weather installing fonts as root worked ? |
| 16:42.34 | annma | no, it did not |
| 16:42.43 | annma | restarting KDE did not work either |
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| 16:43.00 | annma | I did not reboot totally, just restarted KDE and X |
| 16:43.01 | a9913 | arts is pretty slow on my system, how do i speed it up? |
| 16:43.09 | ZeroCarontE | how can i set up top menu (os x style) for kde applications, WITHOUT kde? (like a configuration file) |
| 16:43.15 | Oleg_ | annma: Please go to allmyblog.com and find videos called "Tormented Years" there. The site is in French, so I can't understand it. Also, the name of the user who posted those videos was probably Frenchbubbly. |
| 16:43.17 | annma | a9913: how do you know arts is slow? |
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| 16:43.46 | annma | ZeroCarontE: you odn't have KControl at all? |
| 16:44.04 | annma | if yo have kde apps yo might have kcontrol |
| 16:44.34 | ZeroCarontE | annma, hmm nope.. |
| 16:44.53 | a9913 | annma: when i start playing something using arts as output driver, it takes atleast 3-5 secs for it to start playing. however, using alsa, it works perfectly. |
| 16:45.01 | ZeroCarontE | i only have kdelibs |
| 16:45.09 | annma | use alsa then if it works |
| 16:45.16 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: in ~/.kde/share/config/kicker_menubarpanelrc set IExist to true instead of false |
| 16:45.24 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: (might not work) |
| 16:45.31 | Jucato | afaik, that Mac OS-like bar is part of kicker |
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| 16:45.59 | annma | logixoul: will it work without kicker? |
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| 16:46.03 | logixoul | no |
| 16:46.08 | annma | ;) |
| 16:46.13 | logixoul | ugh |
| 16:46.32 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: you can't |
| 16:46.35 | logixoul | :) |
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| 16:46.46 | ZeroCarontE | logixoul, i dont have it.. well, im actually trying to make kde apps work with gnome-macmenu-applet :P they say gnome-macmenu-applet works with kde applications (with kde setting that) |
| 16:46.53 | Oleg_ | annma: Please go to allmyblog.com and find videos called "Tormented Years" there. The site is in French, so I can't understand it. Also, the name of the user who posted those videos was probably Frenchbubbly. |
| 16:47.40 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: gnome has a macmenu applet? wow. |
| 16:47.52 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: oh, then wait |
| 16:48.13 | Dr_willis | Im often suprised that a lot of the OS-9 Ideas havent been used in other window managers. |
| 16:48.40 | Jucato | annma: still no e-mail? |
| 16:48.44 | ZeroCarontE | logixoul, yes, but it needs a gtk+ patch :D |
| 16:48.47 | annma | Jucato: still no |
| 16:48.56 | Jucato | ok.. I'm getting worried... |
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| 16:50.27 | Oleg_ | annma: are you gonna do it or not? |
| 16:50.52 | annma | Oleg_: i don't have time right now, what is there to do next? |
| 16:51.12 | logixoul | Dr_willis: for example? |
| 16:51.19 | Oleg_ | annma: after that, I don't need anything from you. :) Just find those videos. |
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| 16:51.31 | Jucato | O.o |
| 16:51.38 | Dr_willis | logixoul, those little popout-drawers.. is the one im thinking of right now. :P |
| 16:51.56 | Dr_willis | looking at my old imac.. debating putting Linux or OS-9 back on it. |
| 16:52.29 | logixoul | Dr_willis: well, i don't know what these drawers are anyway :) |
| 16:52.30 | Jucato | drawers? doesn't GNOME have those? |
| 16:52.39 | Dr_willis | its amazing for as old as os-9 is - how well done it is compared to todays gui's |
| 16:52.41 | Jucato | gnome-panel to be exact? |
| 16:53.10 | Dr_willis | logixoul, little side tabs on the screen edges.. ya mous eover thhem and they 'pop open' to let ya get to the icons/files just a nice way to organize things. |
| 16:53.19 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: you do have ~/.kde right? |
| 16:53.24 | ZeroCarontE | logixoul, yup |
| 16:53.26 | Dr_willis | OS-X dont have the feature any more either. |
| 16:53.37 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: do you have ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc |
| 16:53.56 | ZeroCarontE | logixoul, nop |
| 16:53.57 | Jucato | logixoul: he doesn't have all of KDE installed, afaik |
| 16:54.05 | logixoul | Jucato: yeah, i know |
| 16:54.14 | Jucato | Dr_willis: I really think GNOME has that... which KDE doesn't... |
| 16:54.55 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: create this file and add the following to it: |
| 16:54.56 | logixoul | [Menubar Panel] |
| 16:54.57 | logixoul | ConfigFile=kicker_menubarpanelrc |
| 16:54.57 | logixoul | DesktopFile=childpanelextension.desktop |
| 16:54.57 | logixoul | UserHidden=0 |
| 16:55.03 | akki | annma, so fonts work only when installed as user, could it be a permissions issue ? |
| 16:55.22 | Dr_willis | Jucato, the more i used gnome... the more i realize how kde is so much better. :) |
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| 16:55.52 | Jucato | Dr_willis: hehe I wasn't implying that GNOME was better. Just saying that GNOME has drawers, while KDE doesn't :P |
| 16:56.18 | Dr_willis | Jucato, not noticed those in gnome. I figure they would be too 'complex' for people to understand. :) |
| 16:56.24 | ZeroCarontE | logixoul, didnt work, but well, i dont have this either: kicker_menubarpanelrc |
| 16:56.34 | Dr_willis | How to make things Idiot-friendly - remove features. |
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| 16:57.10 | Jucato | hehe |
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| 16:58.43 | Dr_willis | Hmm.. I just noticed that Konqueror's print page dialog is MUCH better done then firefox's |
| 16:59.11 | Jucato | Konqueror's File dialog is also better :P |
| 16:59.34 | Dr_willis | I just like to print web pages '2 pages per page' - silly firefox makes it a pain.. |
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| 17:00.11 | Jucato | hi el! |
| 17:00.12 | fibonacci | Konqueror uses CSS 3 right ? |
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| 17:00.44 | logixoul | fibonacci: css3 is partially implemented |
| 17:00.54 | el | hi Jucato :) |
| 17:01.00 | ZeroCarontE | logixoul, can u post me your kicker_menubarpanelrc? |
| 17:01.28 | Jucato | el: haven't seen you in a long time. busy with work? how's the Season of Usability coming along? |
| 17:01.53 | logixoul | ZeroCarontE: it still won't work, but here: |
| 17:01.55 | logixoul | [Applet_1] |
| 17:01.59 | logixoul | ConfigFile=menu_panelappletrc |
| 17:02.03 | logixoul | DesktopFile=menuapplet.desktop |
| 17:02.07 | logixoul | FreeSpace2=0 |
| 17:02.09 | el | Jucato, yes, i was quite busy - had some full-day meetings without internet access :-| |
| 17:02.11 | logixoul | WidthForHeightHint=572 |
| 17:02.15 | logixoul | [General] |
| 17:02.19 | logixoul | Applets2=Applet_1 |
| 17:02.23 | logixoul | CustomSize=28 |
| 17:02.23 | el | Jucato, season is doing great! we've already got some applications by students |
| 17:02.23 | logixoul | IExist=true |
| 17:02.23 | logixoul | Position=2 |
| 17:02.23 | logixoul | Size=4 |
| 17:02.24 | logixoul | XineramaScreen=-2 |
| 17:02.24 | Jucato | aw... :( |
| 17:02.25 | logixoul | (am i flooding? hope not) |
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| 17:02.49 | el | Jucato, and how are you? |
| 17:02.49 | Jucato | el: The GIMP is one of the projects right? |
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| 17:04.00 | el | Jucato, the GIMP was a pilot project. now we got the following ones: www.openusability.org/season |
| 17:04.01 | Jucato | el: been a bit busy, too, trying to write up a theming guide :) |
| 17:04.01 | el | Jucato, cool! |
| 17:04.01 | Jucato | oooh basket |
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| 17:04.01 | el | Jucato, yes. and there will 2 more projects be added |
| 17:04.01 | Dr_willis | Heh - how about a guide to 'what NOT to do with themes' |
| 17:04.04 | Jucato | nice :) |
| 17:04.09 | Jucato | Dr_willis: explain :P |
| 17:04.14 | Dr_willis | Its amazing the # of cruddy themes/packages im finding at kde-look.org |
| 17:04.19 | el | Jucato, is your guide online already? |
| 17:04.21 | Jucato | hah! yeah! |
| 17:04.40 | Dr_willis | I mean if its a kde 'theme' file - it goes over THERE.. not over here with the windowdecoration... |
| 17:04.47 | Jucato | el: I sent annma and Sho_ the text file for review |
| 17:05.00 | Jucato | Dr_willis: in the guide, I tried to link to the appropraite KDE-Look sections |
| 17:05.13 | Dr_willis | and 'concept/prototype/mockups' dont belong in with the actual downloadable themes. :) |
| 17:05.19 | el | Jucato, where will it be published? |
| 17:05.21 | Jucato | but seriously, I think KDE-Look needs a bit of reorganization and quality check |
| 17:05.37 | Jucato | el: hopefully in the user guide, if it gets approved :) |
| 17:05.46 | logixoul | Dr_willis: there's open-collab.org for those |
| 17:05.52 | Jucato | my first KDE contribution, and first doc for that matter... |
| 17:05.52 | el | Jucato, sure it will :) |
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| 17:06.27 | Jucato | hehe... it's my first time to write an "official" guide.. so I'm a bit anxious... |
| 17:06.48 | Jucato | I haven't had enough time to read through the Documentation standards/policies... |
| 17:08.42 | el | Jucato, the syntax policies or the writing style? |
| 17:08.49 | Jucato | writing style |
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| 17:09.17 | Jucato | annma told me to send the guide in plain text. she'll be the one to convert it to docbook |
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| 17:09.56 | icwiener_ | convert[tm] ;) |
| 17:10.16 | Jucato | heh |
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| 17:11.12 | icwiener_ | Jucato: But it's easier to only insert the markup then write a whole doc from scratch... |
| 17:11.26 | Jucato | I couldn't sleep without knowing if she received the e-mail already... :( |
| 17:11.37 | Jucato | icwiener_: yeah, but I know nothing about docbook :) |
| 17:11.44 | Dr_willis | send her an email asking if she got the email.. |
| 17:11.53 | Jucato | Dr_willis: bah! :P |
| 17:12.09 | Jucato | I could (and did) convert it to HTML, though. but she prefers plain text |
| 17:12.10 | el | Jucato, docbook is really easy. and lauri wrote a good reference guide once |
| 17:12.34 | icwiener_ | Jucato: Yes, it's not that easy starting that. I started modifying existing docs. That was a bit easier. :) |
| 17:12.45 | el | Jucato, http://l10n.kde.org/docs/markup/index.html |
| 17:12.52 | Jucato | kool |
| 17:13.12 | icwiener_ | Jucato: Yes, that way she would have to delete the html markup first -> more work. |
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| 17:13.31 | Jucato | nice! PDF version.. so I could read it on my phone :P |
| 17:13.38 | Oleg_ | canllaith: Fuck you, you little bitch, you can ban me, if you want to. FUCK |
| 17:13.39 | icwiener_ | hehe |
| 17:13.41 | Oleg_ | shit |
| 17:13.53 | icwiener_ | Oleg_: behave |
| 17:13.57 | Oleg_ | bitch ass Jessica |
| 17:14.13 | Jucato | O.o |
| 17:14.44 | icwiener_ | Please so. grant me the permisson to punch people's face over standard TCP/IP :D |
| 17:14.51 | Oleg_ | fuck |
| 17:15.15 | icwiener_ | Oleg_: Just go, if you are angry. |
| 17:15.34 | *** mode/#kde [+o Sho_] by ChanServ |
| 17:15.38 | *** kick/#kde [Oleg_!i=ehs1@konversation/developer/hein] by Sho_ (Sho_) |
| 17:15.54 | Jucato | lol |
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| 17:16.08 | icwiener_ | Sho_: I was going to solve this diplomatically. ;) |
| 17:16.13 | Oleg_ | Jessica is a bitch |
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| 17:16.33 | Jucato | icwiener_: you still have a chance now :) |
| 17:17.01 | icwiener_ | No, not for recidivists. :) |
| 17:17.26 | el | Jucato, i'm leaving again. but tomorrow and next week i'll again be more around :) |
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| 17:18.00 | icwiener_ | one that offends again and again and again... |
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| 17:18.09 | Jucato | ah ok |
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| 17:18.26 | Jucato | :) |
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| 17:18.59 | _Sketch_ | I finally got Scim/Skim working. It's kinda...kludgy, though. |
| 17:19.06 | *** mode/#kde [+b *!n=Oleg@*.nycmny.east.verizon.net] by Sho_ |
| 17:19.10 | *** kick/#kde [Oleg_!i=ehs1@konversation/developer/hein] by Sho_ (Sho_) |
| 17:19.20 | Sho_ | (groan) |
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| 17:19.45 | Jucato | hehe... |
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| 17:20.23 | NthDegree | who's jessica :| |
| 17:20.31 | logixoul | NthDegree: canllaith |
| 17:20.43 | Jucato | Jessica Hall |
| 17:20.44 | Anon65 | Who here kicked Oleg? |
| 17:20.49 | Jucato | KDE Marketing, iirc |
| 17:20.56 | logixoul | Anon65: Sho_ |
| 17:21.04 | Anon65 | lol |
| 17:21.22 | NthDegree | logixoul, does that mean I can make jokes about the finger command :p |
| 17:21.33 | logixoul | :P |
| 17:21.38 | Anon65 | Was Oleg trying to have sex with the ops again? |
| 17:21.42 | Jucato | O.o |
| 17:22.28 | NthDegree | best way to look at this is.................. KDE is sexy ;-) |
| 17:22.31 | Anon65 | Have a nice day everyone. |
| 17:22.33 | Sho_ | Anon65: If he was, I'd say he needs advice on how to entice other people quite badly |
| 17:22.42 | Anon65 | Sho: He does, no doubt. |
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| 17:26.09 | Sho_ | foooood! bbl |
| 17:26.18 | Jucato | lol |
| 17:29.17 | NthDegree | i think this applies to him quite well: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20030121 |
| 17:29.46 | _Sketch_ | XD |
| 17:30.04 | logixoul | rofl |
| 17:30.14 | Jucato | lol |
| 17:31.33 | Dr_willis | I had one once... it interfeared with my IRC time. |
| 17:31.34 | Dr_willis | :) |
| 17:32.01 | Dr_willis | 'take my wife, please!' |
| 17:32.01 | Dr_willis | :) |
| 17:32.07 | Jucato | lol |
| 17:32.14 | Jucato | be glad she can't read that :P |
| 17:32.19 | Dr_willis | she thought 'black friday' was some sort of 'racial' term.... |
| 17:32.39 | Dr_willis | that dident stop her from shopping from 5 am to 11:00pm anyway! |
| 17:32.48 | Jucato | hah |
| 17:32.58 | Jucato | holy thursday... |
| 17:33.08 | Dr_willis | woke me up... "best buy is supposed to have $250 laptops! lets go get one" - Yea right.............. |
| 17:33.36 | Dr_willis | Told her to pick me up a PS3 if she found one... also. |
| 17:33.37 | Dr_willis | :) |
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| 17:33.40 | NthDegree | evil laptops |
| 17:33.44 | NthDegree | EVIL DIE!!!! |
| 17:34.08 | Dr_willis | I got one.. i rarely use much these days |
| 17:34.20 | Dr_willis | its the 'take it upstairs for her to use as a pc on the kitchen table' pc. |
| 17:34.45 | Jucato | lol |
| 17:34.49 | NthDegree | laptops are a PITA |
| 17:35.05 | Jucato | ah! I know what I want... tablet pc's :) |
| 17:35.12 | Jucato | or ultra-mobile computers |
| 17:35.12 | NthDegree | they are unreliable, slow and their hardware is put together with glue |
| 17:35.14 | _Sketch_ | More than one? |
| 17:35.42 | Jucato | if I could afford, why not? hehe j/k |
| 17:36.07 | Jucato | bah.. time to sleep... |
| 17:36.15 | Jucato | have to get up early for mass :( |
| 17:37.01 | _Sketch_ | *waves* |
| 17:37.30 | Jucato | bye! :) |
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| 18:04.51 | WinterLily | can anyone help me with a slax problem? |
| 18:05.12 | WinterLily | I'm booting slax with a usb flash drive, it boots but does not seem to load the modules |
| 18:05.22 | Sho_ | WinterLily: Perhaps, although #slax (if it exists) or #slackware (the distro Slax is derived from) are likely to be much better candidates |
| 18:05.34 | Sho_ | WinterLily: Ok, that's entirely out of the realm of #kde I'm afraid :) |
| 18:05.42 | WinterLily | ty :) |
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| 18:37.33 | Ze_M | how can i run a kde app in english through the console? |
| 18:37.47 | jackyc | salut les gens :) |
| 18:37.50 | pinotree | KDE_LANG=en_US kapp |
| 18:37.54 | pinotree | Ze_M: ^ |
| 18:38.17 | jackyc | y'a des gens qui parlent francais ici? :o |
| 18:38.30 | pinotree | jackyc: english here, please |
| 18:38.40 | jackyc | pinotree> ok |
| 18:38.55 | jackyc | pinotree> hi :) |
| 18:39.33 | jackyc | > hello every body :) |
| 18:40.05 | jackyc | > i have a little problem, but it's not easy to explain it in english |
| 18:40.39 | icwiener_ | give it a try :) |
| 18:40.49 | [GALAXY] | great, problem solved then :) |
| 18:41.11 | jackyc | oki, but must take a dictionary at furst. lol |
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| 18:42.10 | Dimitry_ | heho |
| 18:42.24 | icwiener_ | jackyc: Or try #kde-fr if it exists... |
| 18:42.25 | Dimitry_ | how to switch the destop with a konsole command |
| 18:42.50 | jackyc | how can i see if my artswrapper have the rights suid root? :o |
| 18:43.16 | Dimitry_ | chmod u+s artswrapper |
| 18:43.36 | icwiener_ | That's not "see", that's "set". |
| 18:43.37 | jackyc | icwiener_> no, it's not exist. |
| 18:44.02 | Dimitry_ | kde.fr |
| 18:44.04 | Dimitry_ | ?! |
| 18:44.39 | bluestorm | Dimitry_: |
| 18:44.46 | jackyc | no, no problem, i go to try to resolve the problem in english... |
| 18:44.47 | bluestorm | dcop kwin KWinInterface nextDesktop |
| 18:45.13 | jackyc | chmod u+s artswrapper, sets the rights suid root? :o |
| 18:45.29 | Dimitry_ | bluestorm, can i specify the desktop..and not next deskop? |
| 18:45.34 | bluestorm | hm |
| 18:45.50 | bluestorm | dcop kwin KWinInterface will list you the whole functions you can call |
| 18:46.00 | Dimitry_ | k |
| 18:46.03 | pinotree | or just use kdcop |
| 18:46.03 | Dimitry_ | will see |
| 18:46.05 | Dimitry_ | thanks |
| 18:46.34 | bluestorm | hm |
| 18:46.46 | bluestorm | dcop kwin KWinInterface setCurrentDesktop 4 seem's like what you're looking for |
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| 18:47.36 | Dimitry_ | muhaha - it works |
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| 18:50.07 | YaRGITay | slm |
| 18:50.10 | YaRGITay | hi |
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| 18:55.23 | lynxlynxlynx | i'm annoyed by something and can't remember if it is a regression or not. When something sends/receives a "mouse click release" it gets treated as a normal lclick. Example: I rclick to open the context menu, move the mouse over it and release the button. The result is as if I clicked on it |
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| 18:56.19 | lynxlynxlynx | this time i detached a konsole tab >:( |
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| 18:59.01 | PhilRod | lynxlynxlynx: same here, but surely that behaviour makes sense? |
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| 18:59.23 | icwiener_ | I remember it works that way in every GUI I used. |
| 18:59.32 | lynxlynxlynx | not to me, the neto is a double click |
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| 19:02.34 | seish | has anyone had k3b writer bugs when they switched to 2.6 kernel |
| 19:03.09 | seish | my k3b writes cds and dvds just fune on 2.4, but on 2.6 it just ruins cds and ejects them |
| 19:03.14 | PhilRod | seish: I think there are some known bugs with particular 2.6 kernel versions and k3b - search bugs.kde.org |
| 19:03.37 | lynxlynxlynx | old kernels |
| 19:03.48 | x_link | Hi |
| 19:03.51 | seish | PhilRod: thx. I have 2.6.18 btw |
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| 19:04.03 | x_link | All my Control Center files are gone, they are in Lost+Found in the K Menu. |
| 19:04.16 | x_link | A guy helped me with this the last time. |
| 19:04.21 | x_link | mv /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/kde-multimedia-music.menu /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged |
| 19:04.22 | icwiener_ | x_link: Debian Etch? |
| 19:04.28 | x_link | But that command doesn't work this time. |
| 19:04.31 | x_link | icwiener_: Debian Testing. |
| 19:04.33 | x_link | Yes. |
| 19:04.41 | icwiener_ | x_link: wait a sec |
| 19:04.45 | x_link | Debian Testing, KDE 3.5 |
| 19:04.48 | x_link | icwiener_: Okey. |
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| 19:05.49 | pinotree | x_link: update kdleibs from unstable |
| 19:05.51 | icwiener_ | x_link: ln -s /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged solves the problem, but maybe you have to delete the symlink when upgrading kdebase. |
| 19:06.02 | pinotree | x_link: or wait for it to go down to testing |
| 19:06.12 | x_link | ? |
| 19:06.17 | x_link | I'am using Debian Testing. |
| 19:06.25 | x_link | I want to fix this. |
| 19:06.25 | pinotree | sigh |
| 19:06.26 | icwiener_ | pinotree: I'm on sid but it's still the same thing here. |
| 19:06.53 | pinotree | icwiener_: is your sid uptodate? |
| 19:06.59 | funkyou | has someone tried to install and use suses kickoff menu on another distro as suse? |
| 19:07.05 | icwiener_ | pinotree: Yes, a few hours ago. |
| 19:07.32 | pinotree | icwiener_: sure? a friend of mine (sid user) fixed that i a recent kdelibs upgrade |
| 19:07.41 | icwiener_ | pinotree: and updates available again... ;) |
| 19:09.41 | icwiener_ | pinotree: The recent dist-upgrade complained about the symlink I set a few days ago. After removing it, it installed just fine but my kcontroll is stioll empty and all the stuff is in "Lost+Founs" or similar. |
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| 19:21.17 | TheGateKeeper | Hi Folks |
| 19:22.43 | TheGateKeeper | I am using gentoo & enlightenment desktop, but I have emerged kate, when I press terminal I don't get a terminal prompt, is that because I also need to emerge konsole too? |
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| 19:23.12 | Sho_ | yes |
| 19:23.49 | TheGateKeeper | thanx Sho_ |
| 19:23.53 | lynxlynxlynx | of course |
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| 19:25.40 | Heavenquake | kate-related question postet here because there aren't many on #kate: what file in the kate sourcecode manages what happens when the app starts? |
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| 19:26.22 | annma | hmmm, main.cpp? |
| 19:26.25 | jackyc | i have a big problem... |
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| 19:27.12 | jackyc | knotify don't read sound at all... Some body knows how i can resolve this? :o |
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| 19:27.35 | Heavenquake | anma: It doesn't seem to exist, but I guess it's katemain.cpp then? |
| 19:27.35 | annma | jackyc: what does it use? |
| 19:27.42 | annma | probably |
| 19:27.50 | jackyc | annma> arts demon |
| 19:28.03 | annma | I did not look, usually we have a main.cpp |
| 19:28.11 | annma | jackyc: set another player |
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| 19:28.27 | jackyc | how can i make this? :o |
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| 19:28.32 | jackyc | annma> |
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| 19:28.52 | annma | jackyc: KControl -> sound |
| 19:29.25 | annma | System Notifications and Player Settings |
| 19:29.48 | Sho_ | Heavenquake: It's katemain.cpp, yes |
| 19:29.52 | jackyc | annma> and then, i take "configure the reader?" |
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| 19:30.33 | jackyc | annma> in knotify? :o |
| 19:31.08 | annma | jackyc: KControl -> sound & multimedia |
| 19:31.14 | annma | System Notifications and Player Settings |
| 19:31.33 | annma | Use an external player |
| 19:31.47 | jackyc | and then, what player can i take? :o |
| 19:32.13 | annma | aplay for example |
| 19:32.30 | annma | or ogg123 |
| 19:32.47 | jackyc | annma> what is the path of aplay or ogg123 please? :o |
| 19:32.54 | lynxlynxlynx | which aplay |
| 19:33.01 | annma | in r/bin |
| 19:33.08 | annma | in /usr/bin |
| 19:33.21 | jackyc | annma> oki |
| 19:35.05 | jackyc | annma> it's not read sound again... :( |
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| 19:36.12 | annma | verify that the player works |
| 19:36.31 | jackyc | annma> how? :o |
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| 19:36.42 | lynxlynxlynx | aplay some.wav |
| 19:37.11 | jackyc | lynxlynxlynx> is it read mp3's? |
| 19:37.16 | lynxlynxlynx | nope |
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| 19:37.53 | jackyc | lynxlynxlynx> but i have no *.wav s |
| 19:37.54 | annma | try ogg123 for notifications |
| 19:37.57 | annma | try ogg123 for notifications |
| 19:38.14 | lynxlynxlynx | music previews won't work |
| 19:38.30 | lynxlynxlynx | i guess it would be hard to find a really lightweight player |
| 19:38.34 | icwiener_ | Is there a way to give a command like "ogg123 -q" so it won't spam the console? |
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| 19:38.55 | jackyc | annma> it's not work with ogg123 |
| 19:39.12 | icwiener_ | jackyc: Do you habe .ogg files? |
| 19:39.30 | jackyc | icwiener_> nope :( |
| 19:39.59 | icwiener_ | Erm, in notifications I have .wav and .ogg files. |
| 19:40.27 | jackyc | icwiener_> but, what is they path? :o |
| 19:41.06 | lynxlynxlynx | you get plenty of wavs with kde |
| 19:41.13 | icwiener_ | /usr/share/sounds/ |
| 19:41.21 | icwiener_ | in Debian |
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| 19:41.48 | jackyc | icwidner_> ok, i go to try this way. I'm in fedora core 5 |
| 19:42.30 | jackyc | icwiener_> yes, it's a same folder :) |
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| 19:43.24 | jackyc | how i can to test ogg123 now? :o |
| 19:44.49 | icwiener_ | ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/somefile.ogg |
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| 19:45.22 | jackyc | icwiener_> it's not work. It's blocking |
| 19:45.50 | icwiener_ | blocking? |
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| 19:46.27 | jackyc | icwiener_> yes, i must make [ctrl]+c for stop it |
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| 19:46.45 | jackyc | icwiener_> and it's not read nothing |
| 19:46.52 | icwiener_ | And no sound to hear? |
| 19:47.26 | jackyc | icwiener_> no sound hear :( |
| 19:47.39 | icwiener_ | Have you sound atall ? |
| 19:47.59 | jackyc | icwiener_> yes, i have sound :) |
| 19:48.37 | icwiener_ | What applications work? |
| 19:48.57 | jackyc | realplay, i think |
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| 19:49.48 | icwiener_ | umm, don't know what system it uses... |
| 19:50.11 | jackyc | icwiener_> me too. lol |
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| 19:51.44 | jackyc | icwiener_> how can i download again applications as ogg123? :o With yum? :o |
| 19:51.46 | icwiener_ | I think you have to set up sound in the first place. For that, ask in #fedora (or what's the name). When ogg123 plays sound, you can use it to play KDE notifications. |
| 19:52.16 | icwiener_ | jackyc: That's too fedora-specific. |
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| 19:53.21 | jackyc | icwiener_> and if i do "yum list fedora-specific", it will download ogg123, and maybe working? :o |
| 19:53.39 | icwiener_ | jackyc: I do not know fedora at all. |
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| 19:54.32 | icwiener_ | jackyc: Ask in #fedora or #fedora-fr |
| 19:55.35 | lynxlynxlynx | hah |
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| 20:17.00 | killown | kde 4 go to use Xorg? |
| 20:17.24 | PhilRod | your question doesn't really make sense |
| 20:17.29 | PhilRod | kde 3 can use xorg |
| 20:17.36 | PhilRod | kde 4 will be able to |
| 20:17.44 | PhilRod | but I suspect you mean something different |
| 20:18.03 | Sho_ | PhilRod: I bet a virtual chocolate cookie he means XGL/AIGLX ;) |
| 20:18.04 | killown | PhilRod I ask if kde go to need to use xorg? |
| 20:18.14 | PhilRod | Ze_M: no ctcp please |
| 20:18.24 | Shadowcat | Ze_M: wtf are you doing? |
| 20:18.24 | Ze_M | PhilRod: it gaved a ctcp? |
| 20:18.34 | lynxlynxlynx | twice |
| 20:18.42 | Ze_M | PhilRod: weird... |
| 20:19.07 | Sho_ | 'Ze_M: KVIrc 3.2.5 'Anomalies' 20061110 - build Tue Nov 21 09:24:18 UTC 2006 - x86_64-cefgikoprsAGTZ - Linux (2.6.18-rc7.1mdv)' ... ah, the competition ;-) |
| 20:19.24 | Ze_M | Sho_: thats a ctcp version wich is very different from what i have done, i didnt click to get any ctcp |
| 20:19.57 | pinotree | Ze_M: read the topic please |
| 20:20.00 | Sho_ | Ze_M: You sent two AVATAR CTCPs to the whole channel, probably a weird KVirc feature for funky user pictures |
| 20:20.22 | Sho_ | (I love pseudo-standards) |
| 20:20.23 | Ze_M | Sho_: but here in wich i clicked wasnt saying ctcp, ok |
| 20:20.43 | Ze_M | thats why im saying it was weird |
| 20:21.13 | Sho_ | Ze_M: Well if my speculation is right it's probably using CTCP to request the funky user pictures from the other clients |
| 20:21.42 | Ze_M | yes its an ctcp avatar but was named as avatr notification |
| 20:23.55 | Ze_M | ups, sorry |
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| 20:24.42 | *** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ |
| 20:24.51 | *** kick/#kde [Ze_M!n=pino@kde/developer/pino] by pinotree (there are rules) |
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| 20:24.58 | killown | why kde 4 go to more fast? |
| 20:25.15 | Ze_M | pinotree: i asked sorry, i clicked by mistake, didnt you saw what i said? |
| 20:25.32 | MuJ | qt4 is more efficient than qt3? |
| 20:25.34 | pinotree | i was patient for the first two |
| 20:25.44 | Ze_M | what a love to kick people |
| 20:25.55 | pinotree | what a love to igore rules |
| 20:26.00 | Ze_M | yes but was by mistake |
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| 20:26.13 | Ze_M | wasnt on purpose, thats why i said sorry |
| 20:26.13 | pinotree | then be careful!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:26.16 | MuJ | what a love to... aaww I'll just drink beer. cheers! |
| 20:26.26 | Sho_ | MuJ: Yes, it is |
| 20:26.33 | Ze_M | MuJ: ehehehehe |
| 20:26.37 | icwiener_ | Ze_M: It's better to play around with features in a room you created for testing. :) |
| 20:26.47 | pinotree | exactly |
| 20:26.49 | MuJ | Sho_: should make kde4 more efficient too =) |
| 20:26.53 | Ze_M | icwiener_: of course, but i wasnt testing any |
| 20:26.56 | pinotree | this is not a sandbox |
| 20:27.33 | icwiener_ | Ze_M: It seemed as if though. :) |
| 20:27.36 | Sho_ | It needs to be said that I'm obviously biased, but let me say in Ze_M's defense that it's very easy for KVirc to misbehave ;) |
| 20:27.46 | PhilRod | lol Sho_ :-) |
| 20:27.49 | icwiener_ | hehe |
| 20:27.58 | killown | kde without XORG? |
| 20:28.11 | icwiener_ | killown: Yes. |
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| 20:28.19 | icwiener_ | killown: With XFree. |
| 20:28.21 | killown | icwiener_ how as? |
| 20:28.25 | killown | aaaaa |
| 20:28.35 | killown | without Xfree? |
| 20:29.02 | lynxlynxlynx | with xorg |
| 20:29.08 | killown | ok |
| 20:29.09 | lynxlynxlynx | you get the pattern :) |
| 20:29.27 | killown | why kde 4 is more fast? |
| 20:29.33 | icwiener_ | killown: What do you want to run KDE with? |
| 20:29.57 | *** mode/#kde [-o pinotree] by pinotree |
| 20:30.32 | pinotree | WARNING: personal rant, just ignore |
| 20:30.47 | pinotree | i'm PISSED OFF of people threating this channel as a sandbox |
| 20:30.52 | PhilRod | killown: kde 4 isn't done yet, so no one really knows definitely whether it will be faster or slower |
| 20:31.00 | icwiener_ | pinotree: Just curious. Why do you take away the operator status after doing the "job"? |
| 20:31.02 | pinotree | i'm PISSED OFF of people complaining here for foobar reasons |
| 20:31.17 | lynxlynxlynx | pinotree &> blog |
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| 20:31.32 | pinotree | <end-of-rant> |
| 20:31.37 | pinotree | lynxlynxlynx: i have no blog |
| 20:32.08 | lynxlynxlynx | i didn't have one either until something pissed me off that much |
| 20:32.34 | lynxlynxlynx | angry text is always fun to read |
| 20:34.00 | pinotree | and Sho_, please do NOT implement that stuff in konversation, EVER |
| 20:34.06 | pinotree | thansk |
| 20:34.54 | Sho_ | pinotree: I don't plan to |
| 20:34.58 | pinotree | good |
| 20:35.00 | fibonacci | sorry what was that pinotree ? |
| 20:35.08 | Sho_ | There are enough crappy pseudo-standards as it is |
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| 20:36.03 | icwiener_ | Sho_: But you could implement fixed background pictures pinned to the upper right or upper left... ;) |
| 20:36.20 | Sho_ | icwiener_: In the KDE 4 version, where it will be much easier |
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| 20:36.46 | icwiener_ | Sho_: Ok. :) |
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| 20:37.12 | fibonacci | When is KDE 4 most likely to be released ? |
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| 20:37.19 | icwiener_ | I am not a friend of pictured... but I saw it in another app and it looked nice. |
| 20:37.23 | pinotree | Sho_: can't you already set a pixmap in the background palette? |
| 20:37.32 | Sho_ | icwiener_: I can't speak for pino, but the reason I deop after doing "the job" is that I don't want people to treat me as an operator. All that authority crap just creates tension. |
| 20:37.39 | icwiener_ | fibonacci: second half 2007 |
| 20:37.47 | AlexElliott | icwiener_, as to why people don't keep their ops, FreeNode has a policy of not wanting you to keep them |
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| 20:38.21 | AlexElliott | For the reason quoted by Sho_ in fact |
| 20:38.31 | icwiener_ | Sho_: AlexElliott: Ok, thx. :) |
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| 20:39.36 | Sho_ | pinotree: Konvi does have a wallpaper option, but it scrolls with the text since it uses the QTextDocument ... never thought about the palette, actually (I don't use a bg) |
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| 20:44.02 | icwiener_ | Sho_: I saw another nice feature. |
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| 20:45.00 | icwiener_ | Sho_: When typing "/ser" it pops up some kind of tooltip showing "/server servername [port]" |
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| 20:45.33 | icwiener_ | Like in Eclipse. ;) |
| 20:45.45 | Sho_ | icwiener_: Command completion is planned for a future release. |
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| 20:46.14 | _Sketch_ | Heh. icwiener.. |
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| 20:46.30 | icwiener_ | Sho_: Ok. :) |
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| 21:01.32 | bUscher | where is the kmenu config file? I cant delete a item with kmenuedit, and it doesnt give me usefull output |
| 21:02.49 | Sho_ | bUscher: The relevant specs are http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards_2fmenu_2dspec and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards_2fdesktop_2dentry_2dspec |
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| 21:04.01 | fuffe | how to view hidden files in kde? |
| 21:04.17 | Sho_ | fuffe: View -> Show Hidden Files in Konqueror |
| 21:04.17 | fuffe | (konqueror) |
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| 21:05.48 | Sho_ | pinotree: Conclusion is that QTextEdit implements its own background drawing using a QBrush, ignores setStaticBackground(true) from QScrollView, and has no equivalent for it. Found an ML mail from '04 where Trolltech acknowledges the bug, but that's that ;) |
| 21:06.07 | pinotree | ouch, that sucks |
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| 21:12.12 | DralaFi | I'm trying to get kde to pop up a window alerting me that a usb device was found. This works in kubuntu with the initrd, but i'm trying to have an initrd-less system. udev is running. HAL is running, dbus is running. I can't see what's wrong. Can anyone offer some help? Especially on how to diagnose which part is not working. |
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| 21:16.43 | funkyou | can someone tell me where i can find kmenubase.h? i want to compile something, but it seems to need this file which is not on my system... |
| 21:17.38 | pinotree | funkyou: suse_kickoff? |
| 21:17.55 | funkyou | yes |
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| 21:19.13 | funkyou | i want to compile it on arch linux... patches apply clean and kdelibs is already done, but the kdebase build stops because it does not find this file... |
| 21:19.43 | pinotree | funkyou: that file is generated from a .ui |
| 21:19.51 | canllaith | Sho_, thanks for banning Oleg earlier. |
| 21:20.06 | [GALAXY] | ahh that oleg guy :) |
| 21:20.08 | canllaith | He should be permanantly banned from this channel. |
| 21:20.12 | [GALAXY] | oleg and boleg :) |
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| 21:21.32 | funkyou | pinotree: kmenubase.ui.h is there, but it seems that kmenubase.h is not generated |
| 21:21.47 | pinotree | sigh |
| 21:22.36 | funkyou | moment... i paste the last lines of the compilation, maybe you know whats going on here... |
| 21:22.53 | lynxlynxlynx | DralaFi: you could check that dbus sends the message; the versions of the programs are also important |
| 21:23.32 | _Sketch_ | Yeah, hug the tree.. |
| 21:23.34 | canllaith | I think you are becoming a bit tired of IRC my friend. |
| 21:23.44 | pinotree | canllaith: of irc, no |
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| 21:24.36 | funkyou | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZitCiw52.html |
| 21:24.50 | DralaFi | lynxlynxlynx, The versions should be same, as I'm just overriding initrd. This works with the initrd. AFAIK, initrd only sets up udev, which I also do out of initrd. Hal-device | grep block.device doesn't show a recently added usb stick, even though dmesg does. |
| 21:25.13 | sasq | can anyone tell me how to get ctags to work in kdevelop? |
| 21:26.30 | DralaFi | lynxlynxlynx, I don't know how to look at dbus messages. Seems I have no tool to do that. Can you suggest anything? |
| 21:27.13 | lynxlynxlynx | it must have log, maybe dbus-monitor can be used too |
| 21:28.17 | lynxlynxlynx | sasq: is it installed? |
| 21:28.37 | DralaFi | lynxlynxlynx, I don't have dbus-monitor. I'll go look for it. |
| 21:29.00 | sasq | lynxlynxlynx: yes |
| 21:29.10 | lynxlynxlynx | dbus 0.93 and .94 have it |
| 21:29.34 | DralaFi | I have dbus-0.60 :/ |
| 21:29.37 | lynxlynxlynx | sasq: that's as far as i can go ;) |
| 21:29.47 | lynxlynxlynx | hmm |
| 21:30.04 | sasq | i have some indexing - It lists completions sometimes. But I dont get any "jump to definition" etc in the context menu |
| 21:30.05 | lynxlynxlynx | better stay there, or it will be even messier |
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| 21:43.32 | pinotree | canllaith: ping |
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| 21:46.34 | StevenR | pinotree: ICMP_redirect :P |
| 21:48.15 | canllaith | pinotree: pong |
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| 21:49.06 | PhilRod | heya StevenR |
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| 22:00.29 | dauoalagio | hello, my taskbar keeps disappaering everytime i change desktops. to make it appear i need to run kicker. |
| 22:01.59 | dauoalagio | how can i make it constant? |
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| 22:04.23 | PhilRod | control center -> desktop -> panels -> hiding -> "only hide when a panel hiding button is clicked" |
| 22:04.27 | PhilRod | dauoalagio: ^^^^ |
| 22:04.42 | dauoalagio | check or uncheck? |
| 22:04.57 | dauoalagio | wait nevermind. |
| 22:05.13 | dauoalagio | PhilRod, still doesn't work |
| 22:06.36 | PhilRod | heya pinotree |
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| 22:15.57 | lynxlynxlynx | enabling the focus delay fixed the focus-follows-mouse flickering |
| 22:16.10 | lynxlynxlynx | setting it low makes no difference :) |
| 22:16.33 | DralaFi | How does one make the KDE Deamon window (nice util with actions that can be performed on a removable device (KDE > 3.5)) work with HAL? I got HAL working but kde doean't seem to react to anything being hotplugged.... |
| 22:16.54 | lynxlynxlynx | does hal react? |
| 22:17.10 | DralaFi | lshal does change if I plug/unplug a device |
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| 22:17.49 | canllaith | DralaFi: HAL is a compile time dependancy |
| 22:18.02 | canllaith | So if the HAL development libraries aren't installed at the time you compile KDE, it wont have the HAL backend. |
| 22:18.04 | lynxlynxlynx | you could try restarting kded if you played with the other daemons a lot |
| 22:18.10 | Ringwraith` | if hal malfunctions well it'll kill ya! :) |
| 22:18.15 | canllaith | Are you using packages, or did you compile? |
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| 22:18.34 | lynxlynxlynx | kubuntu |
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| 22:18.45 | canllaith | In that case it should work |
| 22:18.53 | DralaFi | canllaith, I have HAL and it works if I use the kubuntu initrd. If I don't use initrd (bunch of md and lvm stuff that I don't need), this HAL <-> KDE communication seems not to take place. |
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| 22:19.16 | canllaith | ah |
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| 22:19.56 | DralaFi | I really did think I copied all relevant stuff out of the initrd. Hal works. Udev works. Dbus works. |
| 22:20.26 | canllaith | I can only suggest then that you try including other bits from the kubuntu initrd one at a time until it starts working? |
| 22:20.39 | canllaith | It's a bit dull, but off the top of my head I have no idea what they do (I use suse) |
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| 22:20.47 | DralaFi | seems to be kio_media [kdeinit] media from ps output |
| 22:21.15 | DralaFi | canllaith, doesn't suse also use initrd? |
| 22:21.35 | canllaith | Yeah, but I haven't bothered modifying it :) |
| 22:21.43 | DralaFi | :) |
| 22:22.23 | Ringwraith` | Kay hippie IIII OOO ;p |
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| 22:35.51 | sredna | Sho_: Sorry, I got away from that. |
| 22:36.16 | sredna | In fact I did check out that file, but I didn't get around to editing it |
| 22:36.25 | canllaith | sredna: hey :) |
| 22:36.32 | sredna | Hi canllaith :-) |
| 22:37.29 | sredna | I just celebrated my 45th birthday, just so you know it |
| 22:37.42 | canllaith | Nice, what did you do to mark the occasion? |
| 22:38.08 | Dark_Apostrophe | Happy birthday, sredna |
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| 22:38.22 | sredna | I had my family over for a good meal, and the kids in the kindergarden gave me a bunch of drawings yesterday ;) |
| 22:38.41 | StevenR | yay |
| 22:38.54 | StevenR | happy birthday anders! |
| 22:38.57 | sredna | Thank you StevenR & Dark_Apostrophe |
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| 22:41.20 | canllaith | Awesome :) |
| 22:42.18 | sredna | Well, not a lot of festivitas, but I liked it :-) |
| 22:42.55 | sredna | How is everything down under? |
| 22:44.19 | canllaith | Good, new job going well, weather getting warmer, everything pretty ok really :) |
| 22:45.03 | DralaFi | getting colder here |
| 22:45.07 | DralaFi | winter coming |
| 22:50.00 | lynxlynxlynx | DralaFi: other side of the globe ;) |
| 22:54.21 | canllaith | http://bash.org/?709087 |
| 22:54.24 | canllaith | *chuckle* |
| 22:55.32 | Q-collective | canllaith: lol |
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| 23:08.36 | Artimus | What |
| 23:08.41 | Artimus | What's the name of KDE's system tray? |
| 23:09.16 | Artimus | I'm not seeing it as an option under applets |
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| 23:10.17 | pinotree | Artimus: "system tray" ? |
| 23:10.27 | KRF | Artimus, "list of active apps" or something |
| 23:10.57 | Artimus | I don't have that... |
| 23:11.28 | KRF | Artimus, you mean the thingie where the korganizer icon eg. is? |
| 23:11.43 | Artimus | KRF: yes |
| 23:12.34 | Artimus | I don't have it (Stupid Gentoo) |
| 23:13.07 | KRF | i have the german translation, should be something like "system ?part? of control bar" |
| 23:13.09 | pinotree | Artimus: then please ask in #gentoo |
| 23:13.22 | pinotree | for the name of the package with that applet |
| 23:13.34 | DralaFi | kicker? |
| 23:13.38 | Artimus | pinotree: I did. I hoped I was just missing something |
| 23:13.42 | Artimus | DralaFi: Installed and fine... |
| 23:16.09 | Artimus | Well, the good news is, the dock seems ok (kdocker can dock xchat, for instance) |
| 23:16.29 | Artimus | The bad news is, Amarok has disappeared, but it's still playing music |
| 23:16.46 | pinotree | Artimus: try Win+P |
| 23:17.16 | Artimus | pinotree: Where the heck did it go? |
| 23:17.24 | pinotree | just hidden |
| 23:17.51 | teatime | Artimus: the binary is systemtray_panelapplet.so and it should be in /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/ |
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| 23:18.18 | teatime | Artimus: if you don't have it, you're missing some package. if you do, something is broken |
| 23:18.32 | Artimus | teatime: The latter, but my amarok problem is solved |
| 23:18.40 | teatime | it's called System Tray in the panel applet menu |
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| 23:30.02 | Pupeno | Hello |
| 23:31.05 | Pupeno | I have just restored a backup of ~/.kde/share/app/kmail and ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc because I am in a new installation and kmail doesn't start. I run it from the Konsole and nothing happens. 10 minutes and nothing happened. Any ideas ? |
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| 23:33.14 | pinotree | no output on konsole? |
| 23:33.57 | Pupeno | pinotree: only some regarding some input device... all aplications output that. |
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| 23:34.25 | Pupeno | I thought that maybe it was rebuilding indices, but it's taken too long. |
| 23:38.00 | teatime | is it using any cpu? |
| 23:38.51 | Pupeno | not more than 4% |
| 23:39.25 | Pupeno | it is the program that is consuming most. |
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| 23:51.53 | n3kl | Hi |
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| 23:57.52 | justin_ | hello |
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