| 00:00.19 | i_is_cat | why does it take so long to move xmms around my desktop? :/ |
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| 00:16.21 | sarefo_ | hi, i'm trying to connect to my wireless router via kwlan, and the prog gives me an error that it is unable to 'Obtain IP address dynamically'. does anybody have an idea what i could do about this? |
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| 00:19.33 | Renze | sarefo_: is DHCP enabled on your router? |
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| 00:20.51 | protex | Any idea when 3.5.5 will be released? |
| 00:21.23 | Renze | 11th |
| 00:21.47 | protex | Renze: Thanks, is there a changelog somewhere? |
| 00:22.08 | Renze | there will be when the release announcement is posted officially |
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| 00:22.21 | Renze | otherwise, check the svn changelogs |
| 00:22.49 | protex | Alrighty. Thanks, I just needed to install KDE, but I'll wait for the new version rather than to install 3.5.4 now and have to update |
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| 00:23.59 | protex | Renze: I'll do that nextime. |
| 00:24.11 | marcusU | It's not easy to find. |
| 00:24.17 | Renze | I've lost count of the number of times people have asked that question today |
| 00:24.42 | Renze | http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html |
| 00:24.51 | marcusU | Maybe if there were a link on the main KDE page. Instead, people have to know to look for "developer information" and then "schedules." |
| 00:24.54 | Renze | I found it by clicking Schedules on developer.kde.org |
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| 00:28.32 | snook353 | can someone help me config kdict/dictd |
| 00:29.07 | snook353 | i want to be able to not have to use online databases, and i'm having trouble configuring the files |
| 00:29.30 | snook353 | i don't think it has a gui to do that |
| 00:29.42 | snook353 | so i'm having to use the help center's recommendations |
| 00:30.11 | snook353 | i've changed the files, but it still wants to access the server |
| 00:30.18 | snook353 | (online) |
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| 00:31.02 | snook353 | i tried stardict-withoutgnome via alien as a deb. that didn't work |
| 00:31.38 | snook353 | so i guess i have to work with kdict/dictd |
| 00:32.36 | snook353 | the help center doesn't explain clearly what i should do to etc/dict.conf |
| 00:33.46 | snook353 | i'm a student, and i need the dictionary on my computer |
| 00:34.46 | Renze | you do realise that kdict does not do the spellchecking in KDE, right? |
| 00:34.57 | snook353 | yeah. |
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| 00:35.46 | snook353 | stardict really helped me |
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| 00:36.07 | Renze | I have no idea how to do what you want, because I've never needed or wanted to do it |
| 00:36.18 | Renze | I like the online dictionaries |
| 00:36.19 | snook353 | ok. any alternatives? |
| 00:36.28 | Renze | not that I know of |
| 00:36.44 | snook353 | ok. i'll just have to stick with online dictionaries, for now. |
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| 00:37.29 | snook353 | if i got this figured out, i was gonna get stardict's britannica concise to work with kdict |
| 00:37.34 | Renze | but looking at the kdict settings, shouldn't you just have to change Hostname to localhost, and adjust the port (assuming you have a dictionary server on your computer) |
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| 00:38.18 | snook353 | yeah, i tried that. i could remove "localhost", and not "server localhost", though... |
| 00:38.26 | Renze | ? |
| 00:38.36 | snook353 | help center told me |
| 00:38.53 | Renze | sorry, completely confused now |
| 00:39.04 | snook353 | i'm probly not a typical kde user, so i don't really know what i'm talkin about, either |
| 00:39.13 | snook353 | idk much at all |
| 00:39.47 | snook353 | i get the feeling that gnome users usually know less, like me |
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| 00:40.06 | storyteller | hello all |
| 00:40.21 | Renze | I'd agree with that... but the difference is marginal - I've met some abominally stupid KDE users :D |
| 00:40.33 | snook353 | haha |
| 00:40.40 | storyteller | Is there any way that I can make middle clicked jpegs open in embedded image viewer instead of gwenview? |
| 00:40.53 | storyteller | When online that is |
| 00:41.02 | Renze | storyteller: middle click is "open in external app" - left click is for embedded |
| 00:41.22 | storyteller | That usedto be the default behavior, but now linked jpegs open in gwenview which means my scroll wheel doesn't work |
| 00:41.37 | Renze | fix your file associations |
| 00:41.49 | storyteller | But I want it to open the pictures in a new tab instead of the same |
| 00:42.10 | storyteller | left clicking opens them in the same tab |
| 00:42.37 | storyteller | Hmm...left clicking opens them in gwenview as well, but in the same tab |
| 00:42.38 | Renze | these images are links? |
| 00:42.42 | storyteller | yes |
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| 00:43.04 | Renze | it works as you want right here |
| 00:43.19 | Renze | I'd check file associations, if I were you |
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| 00:43.37 | storyteller | I'm downloading dualscreen wallpapers, and I have to click and drag the scroll bars to view the image instead of just point at the scrollbar and scrolling my wheel |
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| 00:44.09 | Renze | like I said, fix your file associations, and the problem will go away |
| 00:44.32 | Renze | argh... splitting headache... |
| 00:45.09 | storyteller | Well...for local browsing middle click opens images in kwickshow and I really like that, but I'm not sure hoiw to change the association only in web browsing mode |
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| 00:45.59 | Renze | check which option is at the top in the "Embedding" tab |
| 00:46.31 | storyteller | aha...gfound it...thank you :) |
| 00:48.20 | sarefo_ | Renze: sorry about the delay, i was away. about the dhcp on my router: i'm not sure, but i guess so. i had no trouble connecting to the net with it for the last year. |
| 00:48.45 | Renze | sarefo_: no, the dhcp is for local connections, not remote |
| 00:49.06 | sarefo_ | but the thing is that i seem to have trouble with dhcp lately, so that sounds interesting. |
| 00:49.16 | sarefo_ | hmm. |
| 00:50.31 | sarefo_ | in lan-lan settings it says: 'dhcp: server', i guess that means dhcp is on, right? |
| 00:50.39 | Renze | I would guess so |
| 00:51.06 | Renze | not being familiar with your router |
| 00:52.19 | sarefo_ | and as i said, it worked for a year. i installed debian etch last week, and that worked fine for three days, too. suddenly the connection from my box to the router broke down in irregular intervals. but nobody has a clue what it could be. (not cable, connection from other machines to router is ok, too) |
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| 00:53.16 | sarefo_ | but the fact that i *can* connect from my machine via ethernet to the router with dhcp should mean that lan-lan dhcp is enabled on the router. |
| 00:53.26 | Renze | yes |
| 00:53.45 | Renze | does it have separate dhcp settings for wireless? |
| 00:55.40 | sarefo_ | i don't think so. |
| 00:56.01 | sarefo_ | can't find any, i'm almost sure there aren't any. |
| 00:56.39 | dooglus | I'm having a problem with the 'system guard' applet. it's not displaying any stats at all. |
| 00:56.43 | dooglus | can someone help please? |
| 00:56.52 | villr[]ye | i'm on it! |
| 00:57.05 | Renze | all yours, villr[]ye - I need aspirin :) |
| 00:57.16 | villr[]ye | :-) |
| 00:58.02 | villr[]ye | dooglus: have you configured the applet? |
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| 00:58.26 | dooglus | villr[]ye: yes, several months ago. I have 10 graphs that I configured. |
| 00:58.55 | dooglus | villr[]ye: now, when it starts up, it asks for 'connection details', offering choices of ssh, rcp, daemon and something else. it didn't used to do that. |
| 00:59.22 | dooglus | villr[]ye: I think the problem started when I upgraded to a new version (debian version number is '4:3.5.5-1') |
| 00:59.27 | villr[]ye | dooglus: t'would seem it thiks it's connecting to a remote machine |
| 01:00.02 | dooglus | villr[]ye: it's asking what it should connect to. I'm wondering if this is a new feature, the ability to monitor remote machines. I don't know what to tell it to get it to connect to the local machine. |
| 01:00.04 | villr[]ye | dooglus: and in that case, I'd just suggest redoing them. |
| 01:00.21 | villr[]ye | dooglus: you can try localhost |
| 01:00.31 | villr[]ye | or 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:00.39 | Renze | remote monitoring is not a new feature... it's been there since ksysguard was born |
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| 01:02.17 | villr[]ye | i don't have 3.5.5 so i can't tell. |
| 01:02.21 | dooglus | if I click 'launch system guard' after right-clicking a dead graph, the app which launches is monitoring everything correctly |
| 01:02.43 | villr[]ye | I also notice the channel topic doesn't say that 3.5.5 is the newest _stable_ version. |
| 01:02.53 | villr[]ye | so your packages may be borked somehow. |
| 01:03.00 | dooglus | is there a channel for discussing the unstable version? |
| 01:03.27 | villr[]ye | dooglus: no, I'm just saying maybe you've found a bug in the as yet unreleased 3.5.5 version |
| 01:04.12 | Renze | 3.5.5 won't be released officially for a couple of days yet |
| 01:04.29 | Renze | debian, as usual, is jumping the gun |
| 01:04.32 | dooglus | ok. so it's best to wait until it's released before fixing this bug? |
| 01:04.43 | villr[]ye | dooglus: if you downgrade to 3.5.4, and that fixes the problem. chances are some is wrong with a) debian's packages b) the source |
| 01:05.33 | villr[]ye | Renze: well, i'm sure he didn't get it from the stable branch so debian would be jumping the gun at all. |
| 01:05.50 | villr[]ye | Renze: packages after all, have to be tested. |
| 01:05.57 | Renze | true |
| 01:06.20 | dooglus | I'm running debian unstable. I don't expect the packages in there to be stable. |
| 01:06.28 | Renze | but they're usually tested in-house, not by the average user :D |
| 01:06.30 | dooglus | I expect to find bugs |
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| 01:07.01 | Renze | dooglus: and the correct path for reporting bugs is bugs.kde.org, not irc :D |
| 01:07.06 | villr[]ye | dooglus: can you confirm that it's a bug? try loading the applet under a new user? |
| 01:07.12 | feld | when the audiocd kioslave encodes FLAC what compression setting does it use? |
| 01:07.18 | dooglus | villr[]ye: ok |
| 01:07.39 | villr[]ye | dooglus: or #kde-bugs to attempt getting other people to confirm the bug :-) |
| 01:07.43 | Renze | feld: the default, I believe |
| 01:07.57 | Renze | which I think is 4 |
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| 01:08.38 | dooglus | villr[]ye: when you have sysguard running as an applet, but don't "launch system guard" as a stand-alone app, do you still see "ksysguard" and "ksysguardd" in the process list? |
| 01:09.21 | villr[]ye | ksysguardd yes, ksysguard no |
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| 01:09.49 | lotyrin | kk. |
| 01:10.13 | lotyrin | So I have X setup for a two-seat setup, how do I get kdm to play along? |
| 01:10.31 | lotyrin | Where's the conf file for starters? |
| 01:10.49 | villr[]ye | two-seat? starters? |
| 01:10.53 | Renze | lotyrin: $KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/kdmrc on most distros |
| 01:11.13 | lotyrin | "for starters" the saying. |
| 01:11.22 | lotyrin | Renze: thanks. |
| 01:11.37 | villr[]ye | ooooh. i am slowtard. hear me roar. |
| 01:11.53 | Renze | stomach wants food... I must comply... |
| 01:12.21 | feld | Renze: thanks for the info |
| 01:12.28 | feld | the default on windows appears to be 5 |
| 01:12.44 | feld | and can anyone explain why it's super slow at ripping in Windows? |
| 01:12.49 | feld | i mean in Linux |
| 01:12.57 | feld | Windows is way faster... i've done my hdparm junk |
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| 01:13.17 | Renze | feld: flac rips super fast here |
| 01:13.20 | dooglus | villr[]ye: interesting. as a new user it works, and I see the same as you - ksysguardd and no ksysguard. |
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| 01:13.31 | Renze | feld: a matter of seconds for each track |
| 01:13.41 | feld | Renze: it takes me about 20 minutes for a cd |
| 01:13.42 | dooglus | but as my old user, neither process runs until I launch the stand-alone app, at which point they both run. |
| 01:13.51 | Renze | feld: wow... something wrong there |
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| 01:14.03 | Renze | feld: I can rip a cd in 2-3 minutes |
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| 01:14.09 | feld | Renze: yeah no kidding... dual core opteron 270 gentoo 64bit nothing crazy set, very sane setup |
| 01:14.19 | Renze | AthlonXP 1800+ :) |
| 01:14.28 | feld | yeah it shouldnt take anything to do it |
| 01:14.50 | lotyrin | why do my arrow-keys not work (don't answer... just saying, wtf :/) |
| 01:14.54 | villr[]ye | dooglus: curiouser and curiouser. |
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| 01:15.11 | Renze | lotyrin: because the gremlins have broken into your house |
| 01:15.22 | feld | it's true, they got me once :( |
| 01:15.23 | lotyrin | omg alt does what 'return' should |
| 01:15.27 | lotyrin | :O |
| 01:15.29 | villr[]ye | dooglus: i don't know what to tell you. you can try moving the ksysguard config file away and trying again. |
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| 01:16.42 | Renze | ok, really in the kitchen this time :) |
| 01:17.01 | dooglus | villr[]ye: I tried moving ~/.kde/share/config/ksysguardrc away. is that the one you mean? it didn't have any effect. |
| 01:18.09 | villr[]ye | dooglus: yes, that's the one I meant. but maybe the ones for the applets need to be moved too. |
| 01:18.35 | dooglus | which are they? |
| 01:21.08 | villr[]ye | dooglus: beats me :-) |
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| 01:22.29 | dooglus | villr[]ye: I just tried using the 'locate' command to search for files with 'sysguar' in their names. it appears that 'locate' doesn't know about any of the files inside ~/.kde |
| 01:22.52 | dooglus | ~/.kde has '700' permissions - I can access it, so shouldn't 'locate' be able to, too? |
| 01:23.23 | villr[]ye | yup |
| 01:23.54 | dooglus | if I run "locate ~/.kde" all I see back is ~/.kde and ~/.kderc; nothing from inside ~/.kde/ |
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| 01:24.39 | boris55 | hello all. |
| 01:25.18 | villr[]ye | dooglus: sounds like you have the arguments backwards |
| 01:25.37 | dooglus | oh. /etc/updatedb.conf has 'LOCALUSER="nobody"' in it. I think this is what's making it unable to index my 700 dirs. |
| 01:25.44 | dooglus | villr[]ye: locate only takes one argument? |
| 01:26.25 | boris55 | can I map a "special" key on my keyboard to launch kcalc? It's a m$ keybord. I'm using kde 3.5.1 |
| 01:27.09 | villr[]ye | dooglus: why is it returning .kde when you're searching for sysgaurd then? |
| 01:27.30 | dooglus | villr[]ye: it isn't. |
| 01:30.11 | villr[]ye | dooglus: what command are you using |
| 01:31.16 | ereslibre | hi, for what is KGlobal ?? I've been reading code but I cannot find any sense. I'm reading kde svn (4) code, and I see that KGlobal has for example a static member KInstance *_instance. Some apps access this like KGlobal::instance()->iconLoader()->loadIcon(......., and KGlobal::instance()->aboutData(), so, what aboutData() is returned ?? If I have two apps, and they two call to aboutData(), what is returned ?? it is a static member, so it should be the same, |
| 01:31.16 | ereslibre | but the apps need different aboutData... |
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| 01:33.20 | dooglus | villr[]ye: locate |
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| 01:39.58 | dooglus | ok, installing 'slocate' fixed that one. I was using 'locate' before. |
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| 01:53.23 | lotyrin | woot. got my crazy multi-seat setup with KDM, thanks for the pointer. |
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| 02:03.25 | AegeanLinux|ALi | !insult Renze |
| 02:03.25 | aegeanbot | Renze - You are nothing but a jarring petrification of pointy-nosed urine samples. |
| 02:03.52 | Renze | that insult sucked |
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| 02:03.57 | AegeanLinux|ALi | !insult Renze |
| 02:03.58 | aegeanbot | Renze - You are nothing but a currish bag of fly-bitten dung. |
| 02:04.12 | Renze | that was slightly better |
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| 02:04.16 | AegeanLinux|ALi | !insult Renze |
| 02:04.17 | aegeanbot | Renze - You are nothing but a fawning ass-full of humid chicken piss. |
| 02:04.58 | Renze | teenagers are easily amused, I guess :) |
| 02:05.40 | AegeanLinux|ALi | !list |
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| 02:06.00 | Renze | !lart AegeanLinux|ALi |
| 02:06.01 | aegeanbot | Renze: Error: There are no larts in my database for #. |
| 02:06.04 | AegeanLinux|ALi | !geekquote |
| 02:06.06 | aegeanbot | AegeanLinux|ALi: <phenom> would you bang the queen // <phenom> for $10000 // <nacho> i dont have that kind of money |
| 02:06.08 | Renze | bah |
| 02:06.22 | AegeanLinux|ALi | !geekquote |
| 02:06.24 | aegeanbot | AegeanLinux|ALi: · Primate · how do you do actions? // · Primate · ?? // ¤ @DjinnWraith slaps Primate around with a /me action // · Primate · how'd you do that? |
| 02:06.49 | Renze | you do realise that bot will get banned from here kinda quickly, don't you? |
| 02:07.00 | AegeanLinux|ALi | meh. |
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| 02:16.22 | boris55 | when can we expect kde 4.0? april, may, june? |
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| 02:16.55 | Renze | yes |
| 02:18.11 | boris55 | it's highly anticipated by everyone I know. Thanks for making KDE 3.5.x. I love it. |
| 02:19.15 | AegeanLinux|ALi | meh. |
| 02:19.26 | AegeanLinux|ALi | Woops, wrong # |
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| 02:34.22 | Oleg_ | two days left before kde 3.5.5 is released! |
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| 02:42.12 | vinboy | is kde 3.5.5 out yet? |
| 02:42.21 | Renze | no |
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| 02:43.05 | vinboy | :( |
| 02:45.06 | Renze | patience is a virtue |
| 02:45.32 | villr[]ye | dooglus: sorry, got distracted with dinner. did you figure it out? |
| 02:45.43 | vinboy | not when terrorist attack |
| 02:46.01 | villr[]ye | there are no such things |
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| 02:52.32 | villr[]ye | either the dot got hacked or they're lowering they're standards on what types of ads they're allowing. |
| 02:52.41 | villr[]ye | s/the dot/kde-look |
| 02:53.07 | Renze | there are ads on kde-look? ;) |
| 02:53.09 | villr[]ye | as is evidenced by the two breast enhancment ads |
| 02:53.22 | qupada | Renze: there are ads on the internet? |
| 02:53.23 | qupada | :P |
| 02:53.36 | villr[]ye | listed under"Cool Sites" of all places |
| 02:53.47 | qupada | villr[]ye: oh, you mean the text ads? |
| 02:53.55 | villr[]ye | yes |
| 02:53.55 | qupada | there have always been questionable things in there |
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| 02:54.24 | villr[]ye | i must have just not noticed it then. |
| 02:54.47 | qupada | there is one that says "refinance california"... the US government might be interested in that |
| 02:54.57 | villr[]ye | qupada: lol |
| 02:55.45 | Renze | uh oh, he said penis |
| 02:56.06 | villr[]ye | ban! |
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| 02:57.13 | qupada | hmmm, new nutscrape-flash in portage's 'to update' list today |
| 02:57.23 | qupada | wonder if this one is going to work any better than the current one |
| 02:57.28 | Renze | nope |
| 02:57.33 | Renze | more of the same |
| 02:57.51 | qupada | figures. if they've fixed whatever is going on at hell.co.nz i'll be somewhat happy |
| 02:58.11 | Renze | hell.co.nz works in konq, but crashes ff |
| 02:58.35 | qupada | doesn't work in konq here... can't use 64 bit browser with 32 bit flash plugin |
| 02:58.42 | Renze | awww :) |
| 02:59.12 | qupada | of course the chances of their being a 64 bit version when (if?) they release flash 9 are just as slim |
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| 03:03.43 | dooglus | villr[]ye: yes, thanks. the new version of system guard expects to see a <host ...> line in ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml |
| 03:03.52 | dooglus | villr[]ye: I added one manually, and now it's fine. |
| 03:04.05 | villr[]ye | dooglus: ah. |
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| 03:04.34 | dooglus | villr[]ye: what's odd is that the bug has been known in debian for over a year, but it's never bitten me before: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=302424 |
| 03:05.32 | villr[]ye | if so, I think you should file a bug. the app should update the file in that case. |
| 03:05.32 | villr[]ye | or at least tell you that a change is necessary. |
| 03:05.58 | dooglus | villr[]ye: I updated the debian report. they'll take it upstream if necessary. |
| 03:06.19 | dooglus | villr[]ye: I also filed a couple of other bugs in the KDE tracker about system guard problems |
| 03:07.30 | villr[]ye | Thanks :-) |
| 03:08.44 | villr[]ye | kde-look down |
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| 03:09.32 | villr[]ye | and back up |
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| 03:30.56 | pattern | when i try to run krita 1.4.2 on gentoo/amd64 i get a bunch of errors, which i've pasted here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kPJr7H68.nln.html |
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| 03:31.12 | pattern | and krita doesn't start |
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| 03:32.19 | qupada | try ~amd64, for 1.5.2, or if you can bebothered, try whatever you need to get 1.6_rc1 |
| 03:33.29 | pattern | thanks, qupada, i'll try that |
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| 03:34.22 | qupada | 'emerge =krita-1.5*' and it will tell you what needs unmasking |
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| 03:36.00 | pattern | yep, i'm emerging 1.5.2 now |
| 03:36.00 | ZiNg | OOOOO |
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| 03:46.11 | Renze | heh, someone's blog got spammed, and it got syndicated on planetkde |
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| 03:49.51 | qupada | rss feeds, hard at work :D |
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| 04:29.41 | KyleH | Konversation does not want to use oss. It is possible to make Konversation use oss intead of alsa? |
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| 04:31.10 | nazrth | hi all |
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| 05:14.31 | icwiener | ?J #debian |
| 05:14.44 | icwiener | Ups. ;) |
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| 05:29.20 | shad0w1e | anyone know how I can set my printer to automatically be in "Ready state" every time its turned on, instead of having to change it to ready in KDE control center every time? thanks |
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| 05:34.14 | Q-collective | Is there some KDE dvd ripper or something that converts from format A to format B? And yes, I know of the existance of mencoder and ffmpeg and no, I don't want to use them. I want this software for someone who's new from Windows and only cli is not acceptable. |
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| 05:40.27 | grepper | Q-collective: check kde-apps.org |
| 05:44.08 | Q-collective | hmm, kripper looks interesting, but the last release was on 14 Apr 2004 |
| 05:44.11 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 05:44.49 | Q-collective | oh well, I guess dvdrip wins |
| 05:44.49 | Renze | I used to use k3b for that until it stopped being able to rip DVDs |
| 05:45.19 | qupada | i use dvdbackup |
| 05:45.36 | qupada | http://dvd-create.sf.net |
| 05:45.53 | icwiener | I use dvd::rip but it's gtk+... |
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| 05:46.40 | qupada | the one thing there is a distinct lack of is apps that can rip a dvd to an iso without munging it |
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| 05:46.52 | qupada | have to rip, then waste time and disk space making an iso with mkisofs |
| 05:47.12 | Renze | qupada: dd doesn't work? |
| 05:47.20 | Q-collective | Renze: oh, k3b has a ffmpeg USE flag, nice :) |
| 05:47.33 | Renze | Q-collective: k3b no longer rips DVDs :( |
| 05:47.39 | Q-collective | oh |
| 05:47.43 | Q-collective | why not? |
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| 05:47.47 | Renze | no idea |
| 05:47.50 | qupada | Renze: dd fails because of css |
| 05:47.59 | Renze | qupada: ah, of course |
| 05:48.20 | qupada | 'without munging' means css/macrovision removal is allowed |
| 05:48.33 | qupada | but what 'mplayer -dumpstream' does is right out |
| 05:48.38 | robbins876 | for some reason, my screensaver doesn't always work... from what I've read, this is a pretty commom problem in KDE, anyone have any suggestion? |
| 05:48.39 | robbins876 | s |
| 05:49.01 | icwiener | Did anyone try http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:49.02 | Renze | robbins876: what version of KDE? |
| 05:49.02 | icwiener | ? |
| 05:49.10 | qupada | robbins876: try locking the screen manually from a console and see if you get an erro |
| 05:49.13 | qupada | r |
| 05:49.24 | qupada | dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock |
| 05:49.41 | robbins876 | i'm not sure how to check KDE version |
| 05:49.52 | icwiener | kde-config --version |
| 05:50.02 | robbins876 | 3.5.4 |
| 05:50.12 | Renze | there was a known bug in 3.5.2, but 3.5.4 is fine here |
| 05:50.29 | robbins876 | how do you lock the screen from the console? |
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| 05:50.44 | Renze | kdesktop_lock |
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| 05:52.08 | robbins876 | i get no errors there... |
| 05:52.19 | robbins876 | sometimes the screensaver works like it's supposed to, and other times it doesn't |
| 05:52.35 | robbins876 | i can't seem to find any real rhyme or reason to it |
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| 06:26.22 | blindcoder | moin |
| 06:26.33 | blindcoder | I have a little problem with my KDE 3.4.2 installation |
| 06:26.43 | blindcoder | when I logged in this morning, the kmenu was empty |
| 06:26.48 | blindcoder | so is kcontrol |
| 06:27.05 | blindcoder | the language setting wasn't loaded and volume control wasn't started either |
| 06:27.32 | blindcoder | I tried to rm -rf ~/.kde after which the wizard popped up at next login, but the problem remained |
| 06:27.49 | blindcoder | creating a new user and logging in there did work fine, though |
| 06:28.03 | blindcoder | any idea what causes this? how to fix this? |
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| 06:33.54 | Renze | 'scuse me |
| 06:33.58 | aegeanbot | lol |
| 06:34.03 | Ardonik | Yeah, that didn't sound right. |
| 06:34.14 | Renze | doesn't smell right either |
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| 06:34.43 | aegeanbot | So, Renze, been compiling any good software lately ? |
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| 06:34.51 | Renze | not today |
| 06:35.09 | aegeanbot | what about yesterday ? |
| 06:35.23 | aegeanbot | !cyborg RENZE |
| 06:35.33 | Renze | not yesterday either |
| 06:35.34 | AegeanLinux | !cyborg RENZE |
| 06:35.38 | aegeanbot | AegeanLinux: R.E.N.Z.E.: Robotic Electronic Nocturnal Zoology Entity |
| 06:35.47 | Renze | lame |
| 06:36.26 | AegeanLinux | !cyborg firefox |
| 06:36.29 | aegeanbot | AegeanLinux: F.I.R.E.F.O.X.: Functional Intelligent Replicant Engineered for Forbidden Observation and Xenocide |
| 06:36.37 | AegeanLinux | !cyborg kde |
| 06:36.40 | aegeanbot | AegeanLinux: K.D.E.: Killing and Destruction Entity |
| 06:36.50 | qupada | aegeanbot: !part #kde |
| 06:36.51 | aegeanbot | Dunno! |
| 06:36.54 | Q-collective | Renze: I'm currently making an image of a dvd with k3b 0.12.17 |
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| 06:37.09 | qupada | Q-collective: is it css scrambled? |
| 06:37.19 | Renze | Q-collective: but can you rip the contents to your harddrive, while removing css? |
| 06:37.32 | Renze | I don't bother with images as I don't have a dvd burner yet |
| 06:37.38 | Q-collective | qupada: it said something about getting the css keys |
| 06:37.41 | Q-collective | so I guess |
| 06:37.46 | blindcoder | anyone here can point me to a KDE help channel? |
| 06:37.58 | qupada | Q-collective: sounds promising |
| 06:38.08 | Q-collective | yeah |
| 06:38.14 | Renze | blindcoder: check permissions on /var/tmp/kdecache-<username> |
| 06:38.25 | qupada | lemme find a css'ed dvd and try it out |
| 06:38.29 | Q-collective | blindcoder: welcome to the kde help channel ;) |
| 06:39.14 | blindcoder | Renze: 0700 blindcoder.users kdecache-blindcoder |
| 06:39.36 | Renze | blindcoder: and how about the ksycoca file in that folder? |
| 06:39.56 | Renze | blindcoder: also, your KDE version is over a year out of date. you should consider upgrading. |
| 06:39.59 | blindcoder | Renze: 0644 blindcoder.users ksycoca |
| 06:40.07 | Renze | no problems there |
| 06:40.21 | qupada | Q-collective: it does look right... once it's finished we'll see what xine thinks of the image however |
| 06:40.25 | blindcoder | Renze: the whole installation is about 1.5 years old and working fine. that's why I don't change anything about it. It's a laptop installation |
| 06:40.26 | Renze | blindcoder: try running kbuildsycoca --noincremental as user |
| 06:40.35 | Q-collective | qupada: indeed |
| 06:40.37 | blindcoder | Renze: while KDE is running? |
| 06:40.52 | Renze | blindcoder: no, kde doesn't need to be running |
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| 06:42.14 | blindcoder | Renze: complains that it can't register with DCOP, then lot's of WARNING: '<something>.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/english' |
| 06:42.24 | blindcoder | Renze: the text/english is different for each line |
| 06:42.29 | Renze | no ERROR messages though? |
| 06:42.35 | Renze | ignore the warnings |
| 06:42.37 | blindcoder | no |
| 06:42.42 | blindcoder | just WARNING |
| 06:42.42 | qupada | Q-collective: should have picked a dvd that is one layer, would be halfway done by now |
| 06:42.42 | Renze | hmmm... |
| 06:43.00 | Renze | blindcoder: well, I'm out of ideas... |
| 06:43.05 | qupada | Q-collective: 550/7575MB |
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| 06:43.25 | Q-collective | qupada: 1 of 5,5 G |
| 06:43.38 | Q-collective | going well so far |
| 06:43.46 | qupada | Q-collective: does your dvd drive have a read speed lock on dvd-video media? |
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| 06:44.02 | Q-collective | qupada: not that I know |
| 06:44.03 | blindcoder | Renze: how can I make KDE virgin again? the only important thing I have is the akregator data which I can backup before |
| 06:44.14 | Renze | blindcoder: depends on your distro |
| 06:44.25 | blindcoder | Renze: ROCK Linux |
| 06:44.39 | blindcoder | basically a homebrew system |
| 06:44.40 | qupada | Q-collective: before i flashed mine with some slightly hacked firmware it was locked to 4x reading on dvd video discs. can go as fast as the drive will allow (~9x dual layer, and 16x single layer) with new firmware |
| 06:45.05 | Q-collective | qupada: weird |
| 06:45.14 | Renze | blindcoder: but the brute force method is to delete .kde, /tmp/kde-<username> and /var/tmp/kdecache-<username>, and possibly some stuff in .config and .local |
| 06:45.18 | Q-collective | qupada: why would it have such a lock? |
| 06:45.36 | blindcoder | Renze: okay, will try that |
| 06:45.41 | qupada | Q-collective: annoying too. easy to fix however. it's just something to comply with bastards like the mpaa who want to spoil all the fun we have copying dvds |
| 06:46.00 | Q-collective | 1400 of 5639 MB |
| 06:46.03 | Q-collective | :) |
| 06:46.04 | Renze | MPAA can pucker up and kiss my poohole |
| 06:46.13 | qupada | Q-collective: 1200/7575 |
| 06:46.22 | Q-collective | nice |
| 06:46.34 | qupada | looks like mine is going faster |
| 06:46.38 | Q-collective | yeah |
| 06:46.48 | qupada | even faster now that the package i was compiling finished |
| 06:47.01 | Q-collective | oh |
| 06:47.11 | Q-collective | :p |
| 06:47.20 | qupada | Renze: i think i've already used up the 'in soviet russia, dinner ponders you' joke |
| 06:47.29 | Renze | qupada: a long time ago, yes |
| 06:47.31 | blindcoder | AARRGGHH |
| 06:47.40 | blindcoder | got it fixed |
| 06:47.40 | blindcoder | STUPID FUCKING DOMINIONS 3 DEMO! |
| 06:47.45 | Renze | qupada: in soviet russia, dvd rips you! |
| 06:48.04 | Q-collective | soviet russia jokes are silly |
| 06:48.19 | blindcoder | Renze: in ~/.config/menus/applications.menu there's a line <MergeFile type="parent"> |
| 06:48.36 | blindcoder | Renze: seems like the Dominions 3 demo installer just overwrote that with a default path |
| 06:48.38 | Q-collective | :) |
| 06:48.47 | Renze | blindcoder: ouch |
| 06:48.54 | blindcoder | Renze: but my parent applications.menu is NOT in /etc/xdg/menus/ |
| 06:49.05 | Q-collective | Dominions 3? |
| 06:49.08 | Q-collective | cool game? |
| 06:49.09 | Renze | blindcoder: complain to the developers |
| 06:49.23 | blindcoder | Q-collective: yeah http://happypenguin.org/show?Dominions%203%3A%20The%20Awakening |
| 06:49.33 | blindcoder | Renze: will do |
| 06:49.44 | Renze | they doth sucketh |
| 06:49.45 | qupada | people who use spaces in urls should be shot |
| 06:50.19 | Renze | http://www.shoot%20me%20I%20use%20spaces.com |
| 06:50.36 | Q-collective | the ppl that came up with the dns should be shot |
| 06:50.53 | blindcoder | You must be signed in to use our customer support services. Please register, it's free. |
| 06:50.57 | blindcoder | Oh joy |
| 06:51.22 | Q-collective | 2150 of 5639 |
| 06:51.24 | Q-collective | :) |
| 06:51.52 | qupada | Q-collective: 12 minutes elapsed, 36%, 2735/7575MB |
| 06:51.53 | Q-collective | oh, 5637 btw |
| 06:52.02 | Q-collective | meh |
| 06:54.34 | qupada | this doesn't seem to be the fastest ripper ever |
| 06:54.44 | qupada | coming up 15 minutes |
| 06:55.17 | qupada | and i'm at the halfway point |
| 06:55.36 | qupada | and passing 4000MB |
| 06:55.43 | Q-collective | does it have to be faster? |
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| 06:56.04 | qupada | Q-collective: when you have a 6 dvd set of your favourite tv series, faster is preferable |
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| 06:56.57 | qupada | good choice |
| 06:57.00 | qupada | got all 3 movies? |
| 06:57.38 | Q-collective | Holy Grail, Jabberwocky and Life of Brian |
| 06:57.40 | Q-collective | so, yeah |
| 06:57.41 | Q-collective | :p |
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| 06:58.01 | Q-collective | Plus I already got the 6 seasons |
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| 06:58.57 | qupada | hate to break it to you, but 1) jabberwocky isn't technically monty python, only has 3 of the pythons in it |
| 06:59.14 | qupada | 2) you don't have "the meaning of life" which is possibly the best python movie |
| 06:59.43 | Q-collective | Ah, yes, Jabberwocky is only related to Monty Python |
| 06:59.44 | qupada | 3) there were 4 seasons of the flying circus, not 6 |
| 07:01.09 | Q-collective | and yeah, I mixed that up |
| 07:01.14 | Q-collective | 4 seasons |
| 07:01.47 | Q-collective | So I only need to get The meaning of Life I guess |
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| 07:02.21 | Q-collective | hey mark_alec |
| 07:03.34 | qupada | well if i was ripping whatever dvd it is you're ripping, i'd be done right now. unfortunately i'm only at 74% |
| 07:03.39 | mark_alec | hey Q-collective |
| 07:04.34 | Q-collective | qupada: 69% here :( |
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| 07:08.21 | qupada | Q-collective: 7000MB ripped... |
| 07:08.37 | Q-collective | shut up :) |
| 07:09.08 | Q-collective | qupada: what's your k3b version? |
| 07:09.13 | qupada | 0.12.17 |
| 07:09.17 | Q-collective | hrm |
| 07:09.18 | Q-collective | bah |
| 07:09.49 | blindcoder | thanks for the help guys, gotta get to work now |
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| 07:10.41 | qupada | 7575MB in 30 min 17 sec = 4269kB/s = 3.1x average. that's slow |
| 07:10.51 | qupada | now to test it |
| 07:12.12 | qupada | video is in one piece, but for whatever reason xine won't play it... bad NAV packet or some shit |
| 07:13.08 | qupada | ok, that's just xine being its usual self |
| 07:13.12 | qupada | seems fine |
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| 07:13.37 | nick01 | how do I add enlightenment to the kdm menu ? |
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| 07:14.58 | igli | how do I set konversation to ignore <-- or --> messages (people leaving/joining)? |
| 07:15.02 | Shirakawasuna | igli: hey, go to settings > configure konversation > behavior > chat window |
| 07:15.07 | Shirakawasuna | igli: it's one of the checkboxes |
| 07:15.18 | qupada | Q-collective: could also be because i'm using a snapshot xine-lib |
| 07:15.23 | igli | Thanks trying it now |
| 07:15.59 | igli | Shirakawasuna: thanks, found it! |
| 07:16.57 | qupada | if you're lucky, '/ignore #kde JOINS PARTS QUITS' would probably work too, but when there's a gui, you might as well use it |
| 07:18.16 | Shirakawasuna | igli: np |
| 07:18.31 | qupada | Q-collective: no, apparently there really is something about the image xine doesn't like. everything else doesn't mind it though |
| 07:19.06 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: what's up? |
| 07:19.14 | Shirakawasuna | (xine stuff?) |
| 07:19.23 | igli | qupada: yeah, but the GUI also ignores nick changes, which isn't so cool |
| 07:19.41 | igli | so maybe the CLI is better- although would it save the option? |
| 07:19.58 | Q-collective | qupada: hmm |
| 07:20.07 | qupada | Q-collective: screenshot coming |
| 07:20.34 | qupada | igli: i dunno, in irssi yes, i've never used konversation |
| 07:20.40 | qupada | Q-collective: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2808/xineerrorap1.png |
| 07:21.18 | qupada | Q-collective: no idea what it thinks it's doing, did "xine dvd:/path/to/iso" like any other iso file, didn't want any part of it |
| 07:21.22 | igli | qupada: no prob, thanks for the help |
| 07:21.40 | Q-collective | qupada: weirdness |
| 07:22.31 | qupada | Q-collective: 'mplayer dvd://0 -dvd-device /path/to/iso' didn't complain, as didn't my preferred dvd shrinking app |
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| 07:26.24 | Goliath23 | hi |
| 07:26.45 | Goliath23 | does anyone of you know of a gui tool to batch-convert image files from lets say tga to jpeg? |
| 07:26.53 | Goliath23 | like irfan view? |
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| 07:28.10 | Q-collective | qupada: and k3b doesn't give any transcoding features :\ |
| 07:28.20 | Q-collective | oh well, time to test dvdrip |
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| 07:30.46 | Shirakawasuna | Goliath23: not gui but imagemagick for batch cli conversion |
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| 07:30.59 | Shirakawasuna | Goliath23: supposedly the gimp has a batch mode but it confuses the !@$! out of me |
| 07:31.18 | Goliath23 | Shirakawasuna: okay, I see ;) would be nice to have something simple as irfan view ;) |
| 07:31.37 | Goliath23 | Q-collective: if you want to copy dvd9 to 4,7 then use k9copy. it's great |
| 07:31.55 | Shirakawasuna | Goliath23: if you can find a good batch conversion program (preferably Qt), make sure you come in here and tell me :) |
| 07:32.11 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: what's your goal now? |
| 07:32.18 | Q-collective | Goliath23: No, I want to transcode it into an avi file |
| 07:32.41 | Goliath23 | ah okay... then you should use dvd:rip I think.. it's a gtk program afaik |
| 07:32.54 | Q-collective | yeah, I'm trying it atm |
| 07:32.56 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: ah, avi file....if you were making a simple copy dvdbackup is great |
| 07:33.11 | qupada | you don't want avi though |
| 07:33.20 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: perhaps you could use dvdbackup and then transcode that |
| 07:33.24 | qupada | mkv container, with ogg audio and x264 video |
| 07:33.58 | Q-collective | Shirakawasuna: I already made a dvd iso image with k3b |
| 07:34.16 | igli | Shirakawasuna: there used to be Kallery but it hasn't been updated for a while |
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| 07:34.41 | Q-collective | qupada: yeah, I'm just testing the stuff though |
| 07:35.19 | qupada | when you say 'batch conversion', what exactly do you want to do? if it's something simple like a resize for making thumbnails or whatever, imagemagick's 'convert' with a bash 'for' loop is by far the easiest way |
| 07:35.36 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: k3b can created decrypted dvd images? |
| 07:35.51 | Shirakawasuna | qupada: we were talking about gui apps |
| 07:35.52 | Renze | it used to... not any more, it seems |
| 07:35.58 | Q-collective | Shirakawasuna: apparently |
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| 07:37.05 | Goliath23 | *wave* |
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| 07:37.44 | Shirakawasuna | Q-collective: if true quite cool. No more dvdbackup for me ;) |
| 07:37.58 | Q-collective | hehe |
| 07:38.00 | Shirakawasuna | although Renze seems to think differently? |
| 07:38.29 | Q-collective | k3b should just have complete transcode capabilities imho |
| 07:38.30 | Renze | I've tried ripping DVDs with modern versions of k3b... no go |
| 07:38.45 | Renze | it used to work in older versions, though |
| 07:39.54 | Renze | damn, I wish I had ice cream... |
| 07:41.03 | Q-collective | :) |
| 07:44.17 | qupada | ooh, now playing scripts... that looks like a fun game |
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| 07:45.12 | Q-collective | qupada: just the /audio function |
| 07:45.13 | Q-collective | :p |
| 07:45.25 | qupada | Q-collective: actually i have mpd and irssi, i wrote my own |
| 07:45.49 | qupada | didn't like the one i found on irssi.org |
| 07:46.13 | Q-collective | oh, I meant the konversation /audio function |
| 07:46.18 | Q-collective | fuck irssi :p |
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| 07:47.06 | qupada | meh. mpd and irssi (with the help of screen) both stay running if you restart X. your way your irc session gets dropped and your music stops |
| 07:47.26 | icwiener | But it fades out. :D |
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| 07:47.45 | qupada | the important things in life, naturally |
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| 07:48.57 | icwiener | Everybody has his own preferences. I used irssi until I came to KDE. |
| 07:49.40 | qupada | i used gaim until the first time i saw 2.0_beta1 and thought 'well designed for the average gnome user' |
| 07:49.49 | qupada | bitlbee provides msn/aim/jabber service |
| 07:50.31 | igli | yeah screen is cool |
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| 07:51.12 | Q-collective | Kopete <3 |
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| 07:51.58 | Q-collective | When does Gaim 2.0 finally get released though? |
| 07:52.31 | qupada | well the first beta came out in late december last year |
| 07:53.08 | Q-collective | the third beta in may |
| 07:53.09 | Q-collective | iirc |
| 07:53.21 | qupada | march, according to the website |
| 07:53.22 | Q-collective | and that was the last release |
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| 07:54.01 | qupada | hang on |
| 07:54.14 | qupada | august 16 they released 'beta 3.1' to combat an msn issue |
| 07:55.46 | qupada | their new dev blog says they were hoping for beta4 2 weeks ago |
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| 07:59.59 | mariux | does anyone know how to open the link in background tab when using 'linkname to surf without a mouse and then enter to go to the link? |
| 08:00.43 | Shirakawasuna | I asked in #koffice but no one seems to know yet - does anyone in here know how to set a trendline using koffice? Specifically for 1/(x^y) |
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| 08:03.25 | somekool | hi |
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| 08:04.25 | igli | hi somekool |
| 08:09.12 | somekool | KDE4 will rock the world |
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| 08:28.47 | tuxick | again having konqueror lag horribly on showing a form |
| 08:29.03 | tuxick | first thought it was related to klipper but there seems to be more |
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| 08:45.29 | logixoul | how do i easily download a html page and everything it links to and everything everything it links to links to? |
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| 08:45.41 | logixoul | kget doesn't have that. |
| 08:45.57 | qupada | wget -r |
| 08:46.00 | qupada | wget is your friend |
| 08:46.15 | logixoul | no kde way? *sob* |
| 08:46.17 | logixoul | thankies. |
| 08:46.32 | qupada | you might want to read --help though |
| 08:46.53 | logixoul | k |
| 08:47.09 | AegeanLinux | logixoul: The KDE way is to do it in Konsole ^_^ |
| 08:47.16 | qupada | especially because the default it to recurse to every site infinitely, you want to use '-l X' to stop after a certain number |
| 08:47.24 | logixoul | AegeanLinux: uh-huh. |
| 08:47.52 | AegeanLinux | logixoul: You might want to give a look at httrack, I know that there is a GUI for Firefox for it ... |
| 08:48.18 | logixoul | AegeanLinux: that'll be the last resort :) |
| 08:48.25 | AegeanLinux | OK :) |
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| 08:48.39 | logixoul | qupada: wget -r didn't do quite what i wanted. |
| 08:48.52 | logixoul | qupada: it didn't download urls linked from the stylesheet |
| 08:48.52 | AegeanLinux | http://extensions.geckozone.org/Spiderzilla <<=== Spiderzilla |
| 08:49.09 | AegeanLinux | logixoul: I don't think anything will do that :/ |
| 08:49.16 | logixoul | AegeanLinux: i'd still have to get firefox |
| 08:49.19 | logixoul | AegeanLinux: oh? |
| 08:49.21 | logixoul | damn. |
| 08:49.36 | AegeanLinux | Well, try just good old plain httrack |
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| 08:50.55 | logixoul | kk |
| 08:51.56 | NthDegree | is there a way to make Konversation have the channel list at the side instead of tabs at the bottom? |
| 08:52.13 | Renze | in 1.0 yes |
| 08:52.54 | NthDegree | I suppose i need konversation-cvs as my ebuild for that then |
| 08:53.03 | Renze | no, 1.0.1 is in portage |
| 08:53.18 | NthDegree | or rather what do i do in gentoo to get 1.0.1 ^.^ |
| 08:53.29 | logixoul | yes |
| 08:53.29 | logixoul | it's in version 1.0 |
| 08:53.29 | logixoul | settings->configure konvi->tabs |
| 08:53.32 | logixoul | settings->configure konvi->interface->tabs->placement |
| 08:53.53 | Renze | echo "net-irc/konversation ~x86" >>/etc/portage/package.keywords |
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| 08:55.35 | NthDegree | hehehe |
| 08:56.04 | NthDegree | I did echo "=net-irc/konversation-1.0.1 ~amd64" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords :) |
| 08:56.19 | Renze | that will work too |
| 08:56.46 | NthDegree | I remember last time I put something general in package.keywords a future version was b0rked lol |
| 08:56.51 | Renze | your version will only unmask one version, though |
| 08:57.07 | Renze | so updates will not get merged |
| 08:57.12 | Shirakawasuna | I almost always add versions to my package.keywords |
| 08:57.17 | NthDegree | same |
| 08:57.19 | Renze | I don't :) |
| 08:57.25 | Shirakawasuna | it makes it much smaller in the end ;) |
| 08:57.28 | Renze | I like updates :D |
| 08:57.43 | NthDegree | I will be using a tri-boot |
| 08:57.47 | Renze | pretty much all of my KDE is ~arch |
| 08:57.49 | Shirakawasuna | me too but I like updates in the stable branch :) |
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| 08:58.10 | NthDegree | gentoo stable + gentoo testing + w/e the hell I feel like playing with |
| 08:58.13 | Shirakawasuna | for instance koffice-1.5.2 finally went stable and is no longer in package.keywords :) |
| 08:58.17 | Renze | I don't like waiting for gentoo to decide that it's safe for me to use :P |
| 08:58.28 | logixoul | Renze: do i want httrack or webhttrack? |
| 08:58.30 | NthDegree | well libusb is b0rked |
| 08:58.35 | Renze | logixoul: no idea |
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| 08:58.38 | logixoul | k |
| 08:58.39 | Shirakawasuna | I like the newness I get w/ gentoo :) |
| 08:58.43 | Renze | logixoul: you're talking to the wrong person :D |
| 08:58.43 | NthDegree | I find testing to be more stable than stable lol |
| 08:58.44 | Shirakawasuna | and I still avoid massive problems |
| 08:59.03 | Kalidarn | is it october 10th in germany or whever KDE people go with their time? |
| 08:59.10 | Renze | Kalidarn: 11th |
| 08:59.14 | tuxick | NthDegree: do you ever run into a horribly laggy konqueror? |
| 08:59.17 | Kalidarn | ah |
| 08:59.17 | Kalidarn | ;P |
| 08:59.18 | Renze | the release date is now the 11th |
| 08:59.22 | Kalidarn | yeah it hasn't been updated |
| 08:59.25 | Kalidarn | still says October 10th, 2006: Expected release date of KDE 3.5.5 |
| 08:59.27 | Kalidarn | ;P |
| 08:59.28 | logixoul | Renze: alol |
| 08:59.30 | tuxick | still trying to find out if it's a gentoo thing |
| 08:59.34 | Renze | "Expected" |
| 08:59.34 | NthDegree | tuxick uh, yes i did on Kubuntu |
| 08:59.34 | logixoul | AegeanLinux: : do i want httrack or webhttrack? |
| 08:59.38 | tuxick | hm |
| 08:59.41 | Shirakawasuna | Kalidarn: in germany? |
| 08:59.42 | NthDegree | not on Gentoo though |
| 08:59.46 | Shirakawasuna | it's the 10th |
| 08:59.48 | Kalidarn | dunno where they come from |
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| 08:59.57 | NthDegree | depends on use flags IMO tuxick |
| 09:00.02 | tuxick | how on earth is it possible that i've been having this problem throughout several updates? |
| 09:00.12 | tuxick | NthDegree: no way |
| 09:00.13 | Kalidarn | Shirakawasuna, was just guessing ;p |
| 09:00.20 | tuxick | CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe" |
| 09:00.21 | Kalidarn | i think thats where they had akademy or something |
| 09:00.23 | Kalidarn | :P |
| 09:00.24 | NthDegree | LMFAO |
| 09:00.29 | NthDegree | your fault then |
| 09:00.29 | Shirakawasuna | Kalidarn: germany = +6 hours from east coast USA, I believe |
| 09:00.33 | NthDegree | -O3 is very bad |
| 09:00.35 | tuxick | this can NOT cause konqueror to start lagging after N days |
| 09:00.44 | icwiener | Shirakawasuna: 11:00 here now. |
| 09:00.48 | NthDegree | and I said use flags not CFLAGS lol# |
| 09:00.59 | Kalidarn | try O2 |
| 09:00.59 | icwiener | Shirakawasuna: Must be +7, is it? |
| 09:01.01 | tuxick | NthDegree: the people claiming that never managed to prove it |
| 09:01.09 | Shirakawasuna | icwiener: not sure :). I now it as 9+ my time |
| 09:01.25 | Shirakawasuna | (pacific) |
| 09:01.33 | NthDegree | well no-ones ever proved BSD more stable than Linux or Gentoo faster than a binary distro lol] |
| 09:01.34 | tuxick | if konqueror starts to lag after running for 2 days or when hitting a form, there's a code problem |
| 09:01.55 | tuxick | or dcop or whatever being a pain |
| 09:02.00 | Kalidarn | icwiener, plz stop looking on other men's pants kthx |
| 09:02.00 | NthDegree | you tried disabling Javascript? |
| 09:02.13 | NthDegree | buggy Javascripts lag Konq like hell |
| 09:02.16 | Shirakawasuna | Kalidarn: huh? |
| 09:02.20 | NthDegree | brb |
| 09:02.24 | Renze | tuxick: I've had my computer on for a week and had no form lag in konq on gentoo |
| 09:02.25 | icwiener | Kalidarn: ? |
| 09:02.25 | Kalidarn | i see wiener :) |
| 09:02.29 | Kalidarn | look at his name |
| 09:02.35 | Shirakawasuna | ahhh |
| 09:02.37 | Kalidarn | wiener is another word for dong ;) |
| 09:02.42 | Renze | Kalidarn: no, it's "icy weiner" :D |
| 09:02.43 | tuxick | Renze: it's probably certain pages causing it |
| 09:02.54 | tuxick | but i never found out what exactly |
| 09:02.57 | Kalidarn | well i thought i read that at first Renze |
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| 09:02.58 | tuxick | it *seems* related to forms |
| 09:03.05 | Kalidarn | and i was gonna say "are you hard" |
| 09:03.06 | Kalidarn | ;P |
| 09:03.23 | Renze | tuxick: ok, how about I haven't noticed any lag at all in konq :) |
| 09:03.26 | Kalidarn | not quite sure whether its 'i see' or 'icy' |
| 09:03.34 | NthDegree | tuxick: turn off Javascript and try |
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| 09:04.15 | NthDegree | lmao |
| 09:04.26 | icwiener | Shirakawasuna: How was the diff between germany and Seattle important for KDE release date? |
| 09:04.56 | Renze | it will be released when it's ready to be released. that's all that matters |
| 09:05.00 | logixoul | gtg thanks all |
| 09:05.04 | AegeanLinux | later |
| 09:05.05 | Renze | patience is a virtue :) |
| 09:05.36 | NthDegree | no lag here :) |
| 09:05.47 | icwiener | Renze: Sur... I was just wondering about the time difference thing that was just discussed. |
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| 09:06.11 | Shirakawasuna | icwiener: I can use it to tell other people what time it is in germany? |
| 09:06.28 | RockMan | ciao |
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| 09:14.25 | tuxick | NthDegree: disabled all javascript and right now the lag is gone |
| 09:14.42 | tuxick | problem is i kinda need javascript |
| 09:14.49 | tuxick | but i'll use ff for those pages |
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| 09:14.51 | tuxick | and see |
| 09:14.58 | Renze | I have javascript enabled without lag |
| 09:15.11 | igli | tuxick: that doesn't seem right- my js works fine too |
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| 09:15.51 | NthDegree | tuxick: not a Konqueror problem, a retard who can't write compliant JS files I suspect |
| 09:15.51 | tuxick | igli: ooh, you tried all websites out there? |
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| 09:15.52 | tuxick | NthDegree: maybe, i'll investigate |
| 09:15.52 | NthDegree | try blogger.com a prime example of MAJOR LAG at times |
| 09:16.02 | igli | sheesh! sorry I spoke |
| 09:16.09 | tuxick | konq is known for having a problem with js |
| 09:16.25 | tuxick | igli: i mean you can't just say "it works here so there's no problem" |
| 09:16.43 | tuxick | i've been having this issue for well over a year |
| 09:16.46 | tuxick | every now and then |
| 09:16.55 | igli | of course not! I was saying it doesn't seem right, maybe we can help you sort it out |
| 09:16.57 | Renze | ugh... bad javascript on blogger.com |
| 09:17.04 | Renze | doesn't lag, though |
| 09:17.10 | tuxick | igli: ye, i need to pinpoint the cause |
| 09:17.18 | tuxick | and now js is suspect |
| 09:17.19 | qupada | blogger seems fine to me... and that's even WITH my cpu being otherwise occupied with compiling stuff |
| 09:18.01 | NthDegree | just doesn't work |
| 09:18.12 | NthDegree | you have to turn javascript off to make a blog with it |
| 09:18.13 | tuxick | there was a thread on bugtracker about klipper causing lag |
| 09:18.23 | tuxick | and i checked that, indeed made a difference |
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| 09:18.59 | NthDegree | 1st thing i make sure never loads on startup |
| 09:19.14 | tuxick | maybe that's the problem here after all ;p |
| 09:19.19 | tuxick | see! there is a difference! |
| 09:19.33 | Renze | I use klipper... not a problem |
| 09:19.42 | tuxick | damn :) |
| 09:19.47 | NthDegree | lol |
| 09:19.59 | tuxick | Renze: well, the thread mentioned certain settings in klipper |
| 09:20.03 | NthDegree | i think I might grab torK |
| 09:20.04 | Renze | ah |
| 09:20.21 | Renze | I use "Separate clipboard and selection |
| 09:20.27 | Renze | that's probably why |
| 09:20.35 | tuxick | that rings a bell |
| 09:20.44 | tuxick | as i said before, it seems related to forms |
| 09:20.56 | tuxick | pages with forms taking like 2 minutes to redraw |
| 09:21.02 | Renze | form completion isn't handled by klipper |
| 09:21.04 | tuxick | and even URL bar lagging |
| 09:21.15 | Renze | nor is url completion |
| 09:21.24 | tuxick | Renze: in this thread they suggested a relation |
| 09:21.35 | Renze | weird |
| 09:21.38 | tuxick | of course i didn't bookmark |
| 09:22.26 | tuxick | but it's not just completion, mind |
| 09:22.38 | tuxick | drawing page containing form |
| 09:22.47 | tuxick | can work ok for days |
| 09:22.52 | NthDegree | ok i'm trollbait now but what is the best non-proprietary app for running Windows in Linux |
| 09:23.05 | tuxick | depends |
| 09:23.13 | tuxick | sometimes wine does the job |
| 09:23.19 | tuxick | but that's not "running windows" :) |
| 09:23.21 | Renze | NthDegree: pour water on your keyboard, and your computer will act like it's running Windows :D |
| 09:23.23 | NthDegree | I mean Windows the OS :) |
| 09:23.45 | tuxick | wasn't there a free part of vmware now? |
| 09:23.55 | tuxick | no sure if it was the bit you need for that |
| 09:24.00 | NthDegree | *non-proprietary* |
| 09:24.13 | NthDegree | VMWare is proprietary and has a bad security record lol |
| 09:24.21 | tuxick | so does windows |
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| 09:24.25 | Renze | NthDegree: Xen? (I've never used it) |
| 09:24.26 | igli | what about xen? dunno about the license |
| 09:24.32 | Renze | xen is GPL-2 |
| 09:24.42 | NthDegree | Xen can't do Windows on any normal PC |
| 09:25.05 | Renze | I think to get Winblows working, you have to go proprietary |
| 09:25.10 | icwiener | NthDegree: qemu? |
| 09:25.21 | NthDegree | hmmmm thats an idea ^.^ |
| 09:25.38 | tuxick | qemu! couldn't remember the name |
| 09:25.44 | icwiener | It's slow... but the best non-proprietary though. |
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| 09:26.14 | NthDegree | slow is an understatement but that doesn't matter too much |
| 09:26.27 | NthDegree | I might slam BSD in qemu :) |
| 09:26.37 | igli | why do you want to run windows? (if it's not too stupid a q) |
| 09:26.52 | NthDegree | well first of all I like Windows lol |
| 09:27.17 | Renze | "like" and "windows" do not belong in the same sentence :P |
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| 09:27.57 | NthDegree | it's secure once tweaked and IIS is great </sarcasm> |
| 09:28.03 | icwiener | "It's really bad... like Windows" :P |
| 09:28.15 | Renze | icwiener: I stand corrected :D |
| 09:28.29 | AegeanLinux | IIS is a pile of poop once you have used Apache |
| 09:28.32 | NthDegree | nah I want Windows because I like to play with it |
| 09:28.42 | igli | that slowly? |
| 09:28.51 | icwiener | NthDegree: I hope you don't mean "playing games". |
| 09:29.01 | Renze | gonna have an early night... lack of sleep lately is wiping me out. night all. |
| 09:29.09 | NthDegree | night Renze |
| 09:29.14 | AegeanLinux | Microsoft is only patched an issue that allowed any user to become a user in the "Administrator" group in IE |
| 09:29.23 | AegeanLinux | good night Renze |
| 09:29.44 | NthDegree | uh they get Stack Smashed all the time |
| 09:30.08 | NthDegree | but Qemu should be safe |
| 09:30.21 | NthDegree | and not too bad as long as I don't install anti-virus :p |
| 09:30.27 | AegeanLinux | hope so, for your sake :P |
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| 09:31.51 | NthDegree | dont diss the Qemu :p |
| 09:32.00 | NthDegree | besides it is secure |
| 09:32.14 | NthDegree | think about it: 1) no kernel level hooks or modules |
| 09:32.28 | NthDegree | ran entirely as a non-privileged user |
| 09:32.40 | qupada | no modules if you're happy for it to run at 1% of your normal cpu speed that is |
| 09:32.49 | NthDegree | !!! Qemu must build with GCC 3 |
| 09:32.49 | NthDegree | !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. |
| 09:32.52 | NthDegree | :@ |
| 09:33.01 | NthDegree | fscking $^£^$ |
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| 09:33.32 | qupada | put a lid on your little theory about its greatness there? |
| 09:33.45 | NthDegree | yep :$ |
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| 09:35.27 | qupada | i tried qemu... but hey, vmware-server is free (as in beer), fast, and vaguely clever to boot. can't complain |
| 09:36.11 | qupada | (no pun intended on the 'boot' bit) |
| 09:36.21 | igli | night Renze |
| 09:38.03 | NthDegree | and uses the superserver daemon |
| 09:38.13 | NthDegree | very bad for security on a desktop |
| 09:38.31 | NthDegree | time to compile GCC 3 :p |
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| 09:40.16 | Smooph | hi somebody here who know how to get OSS Sounds forwarded to ALSA with the aoss thingy? |
| 09:40.28 | qupada | NthDegree: which version of qemu were you compiling? |
| 09:40.53 | NthDegree | 0.8.2 |
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| 09:41.06 | b_52Centos | hi |
| 09:41.13 | NthDegree | and the "stable" also fails lol |
| 09:41.19 | NthDegree | hi :) |
| 09:41.48 | b_52Centos | any kate lovers in the area ? |
| 09:41.51 | qupada | NthDegree: odd. i thought they'd resolved that issue. oh well |
| 09:43.02 | b_52Centos | i am not able to toogle the terminal window under kate :( |
| 09:43.08 | b_52Centos | i am using kate 3.5.2 |
| 09:43.21 | NthDegree | on CentOS? |
| 09:43.30 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, xubutu dapper |
| 09:43.43 | NthDegree | Xubuntu Dapper :| |
| 09:43.50 | b_52Centos | :) |
| 09:43.56 | NthDegree | You TOTALLY INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE? |
| 09:43.56 | b_52Centos | yeap |
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| 09:44.24 | igli | b_52Centos: Yeah Kate's cool, but I just end up Kwrite atm |
| 09:44.40 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, could you slow down with enlish ( i am a native french speaker .. :) menbrane = ? |
| 09:44.51 | NthDegree | oh sorry lol |
| 09:44.56 | NthDegree | it was a joke |
| 09:45.30 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, all people don't have the luck to be crazy at the point of using kate under xubuntu yeah that's right :) |
| 09:46.03 | b_52Centos | igli, kwrite is more like a simple editor i mean the one file task .... |
| 09:46.09 | NthDegree | Kubuntu too slow? |
| 09:46.44 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, yeah and it take 700MO for my 1.5GO under a normal use i mean with out samba/apache .... |
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| 09:47.35 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, are xfce users wellcomed in the neighberhood ? :) |
| 09:47.37 | igli | yeah, but you don't even get `find and replace' across files which is my no 1 wish in Kate |
| 09:47.47 | NthDegree | you have apache on the go? b_52Centos |
| 09:48.05 | NthDegree | :| |
| 09:48.06 | NthDegree | on the same machine with X and XFCE :| |
| 09:48.19 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, not at the moment but i will need it :d |
| 09:48.19 | igli | i've used it for a small code project but it ended up being easier with kwrite and konqi |
| 09:48.19 | AegeanLinux | NthDegree: what distro you on ? |
| 09:48.36 | NthDegree | AegeanLinux: Gentoo :) |
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| 09:48.53 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, remember INSANE in the membrane :) .... |
| 09:49.21 | NthDegree | b_52Centos: uh stupid question, shouldn't apache go on a separate machine? |
| 09:49.46 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, yeah for a production use yes , but later .... |
| 09:49.55 | igli | b_52Centos: don't let him get to ya; he wants to run windows under qemu FFS |
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| 09:50.25 | b_52Centos | igli, heh :D |
| 09:51.04 | igli | it'd be cool to get a file+replace across open files in kate tho. |
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| 09:51.19 | igli | or optionally all project files |
| 09:51.30 | igli | (sorry _find_ and replace) |
| 09:51.36 | b_52Centos | yeap it will be cool |
| 09:51.52 | igli | is there a kde wishlist anywhere? |
| 09:52.27 | icwiener | bugs.kde.org? |
| 09:52.48 | igli | cheers icwiener shoulda thought of that! |
| 09:53.03 | Shinjii | id luv to see how many things ppl want for KDE have come from windows or would make it more like windows |
| 09:53.35 | igli | don't wanna hack it if it's already in the pipeline |
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| 09:54.00 | nick01 | what happened with konqueror ? where do I configure the plugins ?! |
| 09:54.11 | icwiener | igli: then you propably should ask in #kde-devel. |
| 09:54.30 | igli | nick01: what distro? you need ns-plugins on gentoo |
| 09:54.48 | nick01 | igli: mandriva |
| 09:55.02 | nick01 | 2007 |
| 09:55.25 | igli | yeah had the same prob on mandrake as well; you need that package to get the plugins tab in configure |
| 09:55.36 | igli | (not sure of mandriva name) |
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| 09:56.15 | igli | icwiener: do the kde-devs hang out on freenode as well? |
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| 09:57.46 | icwiener | igli: Never met one markedly, but #kde-devel would let expect it. |
| 09:57.54 | nick01 | igli: it sais nsplugins is already installed |
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| 09:58.24 | icwiener | nick01: Do you have konq-plugins installed? |
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| 09:58.37 | b_52Centos | is it normal to go in the configuration panel --> shorcut conf --> i type "term" in the search box , i get no result ? |
| 09:58.49 | igli | icwiener: nice one! never did get that sorted on mandrake! |
| 09:59.27 | igli | b_52Centos: sorry config for what? |
| 09:59.30 | nick01 | igli: no such pkg |
| 09:59.55 | icwiener | igli: Do not know if it actually exists on mandrive... just a shot. :D |
| 10:00.05 | NthDegree | nick01: talk about it in #mandriva somehow it doesn't seem to be a KDE issue |
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| 10:00.33 | igli | icwiener: I'll check the dev-kde pages to see whether they mention another IRC network.. |
| 10:00.44 | b_52Centos | igli, configuration panel --> shorcut configuration , i mean keyboard "raccourcis in french" |
| 10:01.30 | igli | keyboard shortcuts? |
| 10:02.43 | b_52Centos | igli, shortcuts configuration (that what written on the top of the window ) but it show keyboard stuff |
| 10:03.04 | NthDegree | that is keyboard shortcuts i'd assume |
| 10:03.17 | igli | yeah, I've got that in control centre, but no search box |
| 10:03.51 | igli | oh sorry wrong tab! |
| 10:04.09 | b_52Centos | tehre is a search box and on the second part of the window "shortcut for selected action " |
| 10:04.17 | b_52Centos | tehre/there |
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| 10:05.11 | igli | what about the next tab command shortcuts? |
| 10:05.22 | igli | you can assign a key to start any app (i think) |
| 10:05.34 | xushi | I've got alot of nfs shares on my desktop i don't want to see. Is there anyway to filter what i can see to only My Computer, the CDrom, and usb devices, omitting NFS shares? |
| 10:05.44 | NthDegree | yep |
| 10:05.47 | NthDegree | 1 sec xushi |
| 10:05.50 | xushi | sure |
| 10:05.54 | b_52Centos | igli, no that's the problem i can just modify the existant one :( |
| 10:06.11 | NthDegree | ok xushi |
| 10:06.23 | NthDegree | Control Center > Desktop > Behaviour |
| 10:06.32 | igli | b_52Centos: what you mean you have already set up the shortcut? |
| 10:06.33 | NthDegree | Device Icons is the tab it will be on |
| 10:06.38 | xushi | ah! |
| 10:06.40 | xushi | thanks alot NthDegree |
| 10:06.59 | xushi | that did the trick |
| 10:07.00 | b_52Centos | igli, euh nop |
| 10:07.04 | NthDegree | np, I always take a sec to call up the bit I think it is lol |
| 10:07.33 | igli | sorry I'm a bit confused- what are you trying to do? |
| 10:08.22 | b_52Centos | igli, do you know a kind of paste site for image i have make a screenshot , we will understand well each othe rwith it :) |
| 10:08.40 | igli | http://rafb.net/paste ;) |
| 10:09.10 | NthDegree | b_52Centos: i do |
| 10:09.14 | b_52Centos | igli, hehe paste an jpeg image ? :) |
| 10:09.20 | NthDegree | b_52Centos: http://www.imageshack.us |
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| 10:09.25 | NthDegree | use that |
| 10:09.33 | b_52Centos | ok |
| 10:09.35 | NthDegree | no registration needed I use it all the time |
| 10:10.15 | igli | oh sorry. nice one Nth |
| 10:10.48 | vinboy | is it possible to get these tranparent neon light taskbar such as Vista's Aero? http://winsupersite.com/images/showcase/winvista_5744_38.jpg |
| 10:11.24 | b_52Centos | igli, http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenac7.jpg |
| 10:12.32 | b_52Centos | well now i "just want" want to have a tab terminal that is toggled :) i click over it but nothing appear ! |
| 10:13.40 | igli | b_52Centos: sorry didn't realise you were talking about kate |
| 10:14.31 | b_52Centos | igli, you think , we were talking about kwrite ? |
| 10:14.44 | igli | no, kde in general :) |
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| 10:16.03 | b_52Centos | igli, errr :) |
| 10:16.38 | b_52Centos | NthDegree, welcome back :d |
| 10:16.44 | NthDegree | :) |
| 10:16.48 | NthDegree | ty |
| 10:16.48 | igli | phew! first thing, there is a find in files |
| 10:17.08 | NthDegree | NOT server because I hate xinetd :p |
| 10:17.28 | igli | b_52Centos: but no I can't see an easy way to toggle term with keyboard |
| 10:17.36 | b_52Centos | the #kate are sleeping :) |
| 10:18.01 | igli | ah well. there must be a way, best wait for them |
| 10:18.03 | b_52Centos | igli, toggle term without keyboard = ? |
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| 10:18.33 | igli | Window -> Tool Views |
| 10:18.36 | b_52Centos | igli, yeah i love kate so i will wait a little bit :) |
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| 10:19.05 | b_52Centos | igli, the beauty of kate is called a term under your integrated editor :) ........ |
| 10:19.12 | vinboy | how do I get transparent window like this http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/desktop-scottsshort.png |
| 10:19.18 | igli | NthDegree: good choice! Does VMware server require xinetd? |
| 10:19.54 | igli | b_52Centos: I'm just glad it has the file find and replace (also in Tool Views) |
| 10:20.21 | b_52Centos | igli, :) |
| 10:20.36 | NthDegree | igli: indeed it does |
| 10:20.41 | qupada | wtf sort of resolution is 1856x1392? |
| 10:20.47 | qupada | whoever took that screenshot has some problems |
| 10:20.49 | igli | it just got better :) |
| 10:21.12 | qupada | one of which of course is they're running gnome |
| 10:21.13 | igli | qupada: probably some weird lcd widescreen (or just a showoff ;) |
| 10:21.50 | qupada | igli: that resolution is 4:3 |
| 10:22.09 | qupada | likely they have a 21" crt, but still a most random resolution |
| 10:22.42 | igli | agreed |
| 10:22.59 | igli | what size is HDTV? |
| 10:23.00 | benJIman|work | 1856x1392 is 4x3 |
| 10:23.08 | qupada | igli: 1920x1080 |
| 10:23.19 | benJIman|work | large CRTs will often do 2048x1536 |
| 10:23.42 | igli | must be one of them graphic designer bods |
| 10:23.59 | qupada | graphic designer, or just generally got a screw loose |
| 10:24.56 | benJIman|work | CRTs still beat TFTs in almost every way. |
| 10:25.33 | Thrain | TFT? |
| 10:25.43 | icwiener | Only wasting space and electricity. |
| 10:25.48 | qupada | just not size, weight, power consumption |
| 10:27.12 | benJIman|work | icwiener: actually 22" CRT will bareyl use any more power than a 20" TFT |
| 10:27.36 | igli | i still love my trinitron CRT! |
| 10:27.39 | benJIman|work | and have higher resolution, better colour reproduction, better response time. |
| 10:27.40 | tuxick | benJIman|work: get real |
| 10:27.47 | qupada | also 2 monitors using lcd's is a lot more workable than with crt's, for one you don't get wierd issues with interference between the coils in the two causing lines on the display or moire patterns, and you have far less plastic border between the screens |
| 10:28.19 | benJIman|work | tuxick: no really, Dell's 2007fp uses 90w CRT the same size just over 100. |
| 10:28.25 | tuxick | crts might perform better, but they use a lot more energy |
| 10:28.37 | tuxick | 90W? for a tft? |
| 10:28.57 | benJIman|work | tuxick: you're probably comparing small TFTs with small CRTs in which case your comparison would be valid. |
| 10:29.01 | tuxick | how? 70W backlight? |
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| 10:29.29 | benJIman|work | large TFTs use a lot of power. |
| 10:29.32 | tuxick | well ye, i have a 17.4" iiyama tft here that uses a fraction of what crt would use |
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| 10:30.17 | qupada | the transformer for my 17" samsung lcd is only rated for 14V 3A... 42W |
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| 10:31.12 | qupada | and to the finest degree i can measure power consumption using my UPS' load level, it only uses about 25W when running |
| 10:31.29 | icwiener | benJIman|work: I read about the Dell 2007WFP to take 44W. |
| 10:31.37 | vesuv | Intresting, I have a problem with my CRT right now. It's making this almost silent but very squeaky sound. |
| 10:32.05 | benJIman|work | icwiener: I'm comparing the listed wattage on the manual for both. |
| 10:32.05 | Thrain | vesuv: bad v/h syncronization settings |
| 10:32.21 | vesuv | Thrain: v/h? |
| 10:32.30 | tuxick | vesuv: it could be the high voltage coil giving up |
| 10:32.31 | Thrain | vesuv: vertical, horizontal |
| 10:32.40 | qupada | in fact speaking of having a UPS, you're pretty screwed if you have a crt which is off and needs to be on, the massive spike in power consumption when they turn on isn't too friendly to a UPS |
| 10:32.44 | vesuv | I think it's the coil actually. |
| 10:32.44 | benJIman|work | vesuv: increase the refresh rate until you can no longer hear it. |
| 10:32.47 | tuxick | but yeah, too high settings will cause this sound as well |
| 10:32.48 | vesuv | Like tuxick |
| 10:32.56 | tuxick | benJIman|work :) |
| 10:33.10 | icwiener | benJIman|work: Even when it's german: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test-dell-2007wfp.html (look for the word "Leistungsaufnahme"_):) |
| 10:33.49 | vesuv | hm |
| 10:33.52 | qupada | 44.6W running, 1W standby |
| 10:33.55 | benJIman|work | icwiener: that's probably average usage, I don't have equipment to measure that. |
| 10:33.56 | qupada | sounds more reasonable |
| 10:34.04 | benJIman|work | I was comparing maximum draw of both. |
| 10:34.31 | vesuv | But maybe it's indeed the refresh rate problem, because I've changed the defaul sync to my LCD TV and it started around that time. |
| 10:34.55 | NthDegree | anyone know the best vmx builder type thing I can use for making a VMWare Player image? |
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| 10:35.27 | qupada | how many people do you know run their monitor at maximum brightness though? my lcd isn't particularly bright by most standards, but past about 40 (0-100 brightness scale) it starts to hurt my eyes |
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| 10:35.37 | benJIman|work | NthDegree: SUSE's kiwi was going to be able to do that, don't know if it can yet. |
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| 10:45.49 | backblue | hi, anyone have to help me please, i have so much big letters with everything related to qt, how do i change the letters size? |
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| 10:49.08 | icwiener | backblue: qtconfig? |
| 10:51.18 | backblue | icwiener: does not do anything. |
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| 10:53.05 | qupada | backblue: you might find there are two copies of qtconfig, one for qt3 and one for qt4 |
| 10:53.18 | backblue | maybe it's that. |
| 10:53.19 | icwiener | the command itself or changing the font size in qtconfig? |
| 10:53.20 | qupada | backblue: they are /usr/bin/qtconfig (qt4) and /usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig (qt3) on my gentoo system |
| 10:53.28 | backblue | i'm gentoo too. |
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| 10:55.05 | backblue | qupada: looks like it does not changed anything. |
| 10:57.56 | backblue | qupada: worked, have to restart, dumb me! thanks very much. |
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| 10:58.16 | NthDegree | is qemu with kqemu any good? |
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| 10:58.30 | NthDegree | vmware-player sucked ass |
| 10:58.36 | NthDegree | and server is out of the question |
| 10:59.14 | qupada | what's wrong with vmware-server that isn't wrong with vmware-player exactly? |
| 10:59.41 | NthDegree | it uses xinetd and doesn't get security updates as quickly as player does |
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| 11:00.27 | NthDegree | and kqemu i'd assume is open source but non-free |
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| 11:40.25 | gemidjy | anyone experienced in Kate use ? |
| 11:40.26 | gemidjy | as IDE |
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| 11:42.15 | rdale | kdevelop is an ide that uses kate as an editor, kate isn't an ide itself |
| 11:42.32 | gemidjy | it can be, however, u use kate? |
| 11:43.30 | annma | it has a integraed konsole so you can do what you wanr |
| 11:43.32 | annma | want |
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| 11:43.58 | annma | gemidjy: do you have a specific problem? |
| 11:44.37 | gemidjy | yes, actually it might be a request for a feature or I don't know about it, but how can I switch from the Editor in the integrated Konsole with shortcut ? |
| 11:44.43 | gemidjy | I couldn't find any in the menus |
| 11:45.40 | marv_ | Hi, when i copy something in kontact (strg+c) and paste it anywhere it works. but if i close kontact i could paste the copied text anymore.. why this happens? i'm using kontact 1.1 |
| 11:45.42 | annma | in Settings -> Configure shortcutes |
| 11:45.47 | annma | gemidjy: ^^ |
| 11:46.04 | annma | there is a Show Terminal shortcut, just set it to something |
| 11:46.52 | gemidjy | great, thanks annma, hrm, didn't think about Configure shortcuts :S |
| 11:46.59 | gemidjy | :) |
| 11:47.02 | annma | :) |
| 11:47.03 | icwiener | marv_: As far as I know, that's the default behaviour in KDE. |
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| 11:47.15 | gemidjy | brb |
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| 11:47.30 | annma | hi sredna |
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| 11:49.16 | marv_ | icwiener: could i change that? |
| 11:49.23 | marv_ | this way it sucks :-) |
| 11:49.25 | igli | marv_: I get the same prob. I think it might be something to do with not having klipper (name?) A closed app takes it's clipboard with it |
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| 11:54.41 | marv_ | igli: yes, using klipper saved the problem. now i just want a reason why kde behaves like this |
| 11:54.51 | marv_ | s/saved/solved |
| 11:55.08 | igli | because there's no application holding the clipboard in memory |
| 11:56.43 | igli | do you remember the Windoze mega-clipboard (that annoyed the hell out of me) that's what klipper can do |
| 11:56.50 | gemidjy | annma: actually it isn't what I wanted :)) I just want to switch to the terminal, not show/hide |
| 11:57.44 | igli | marv_: AFAIK the OS (WM) holds the clipboard stuff; in KDE that has to be set up (which it normally is on other distros) |
| 11:58.13 | igli | if the data is to live independently of the supplying app |
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| 12:07.03 | sredna | Kde does not work, or rather kwin. It sometimes it pops up a window in front which does not have focus. |
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| 12:08.53 | igli | annma: thanks for the hint, that's exactly what I wanted! |
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| 12:19.13 | sredna | Now, after a hard reboot, killing konqueror and then kde, I finally have a working session |
| 12:19.27 | sredna | But kwallet appears to have lost some data |
| 12:19.32 | sredna | Not good enough, kde |
| 12:20.37 | sredna | This took > 10 minutes all in all, and I just needed to log in and check my mail |
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| 12:21.09 | sredna | The hard reboot was not KDEs fault, but it is embarrassing that it can't handle it gracefully |
| 12:21.41 | smileaf | debug time? :) |
| 12:26.50 | NthDegree | oh yeah I can say QEMU is faster than VMWare with KQemu :) |
| 12:27.00 | NthDegree | well on Gentoo anyways :p |
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| 12:27.59 | qupada | really? my appraisal of the experience was along the lines of 'snails fucking in peanut butter' |
| 12:28.11 | qupada | each to their own, vmware-server works for me |
| 12:28.11 | NthDegree | lol |
| 12:28.21 | NthDegree | well i'm installing Windows 98 |
| 12:28.26 | NthDegree | there is a little slowdown |
| 12:28.34 | NthDegree | but not too much |
| 12:29.09 | NthDegree | nothing a little nice cant solve anyways :p |
| 12:29.28 | NthDegree | one thing VMWare doesn't support tho |
| 12:29.32 | NthDegree | ALSA ! |
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| 12:32.12 | qupada | last time i used qemu it didn't support sound at all, i'm guessing it does now |
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| 12:46.46 | Paradosso | hi there people |
| 12:46.59 | Paradosso | is there a way to send a custom application to kicker's tray? |
| 12:47.47 | benJIman|work | Paradosso: ksystraycmd |
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| 12:53.56 | Paradosso | benJIman|work: thanks, but how do I accomplish to a) have only the tray icon and not the taskbar thing and b) if I hit the x button on the window deco the app is minimized to tray instead of being closed? |
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| 12:55.06 | xushi | what buttons do you press in kde to get that kill click to work ? |
| 12:56.01 | smileaf | xushi: might need to be configured but default is ctrl+alt+esc |
| 12:56.17 | xushi | damn.. |
| 12:56.24 | xushi | that killed ALL my OOo windows.. |
| 12:56.34 | xushi | one of them crashed trying to open a document. and i didn't save the other ones |
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| 13:05.19 | xushi | anyway.. it was time i rewrite half that stuff :) |
| 13:05.22 | xushi | thanks |
| 13:07.54 | igli | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.00 | igli | (public away) |
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| 13:13.03 | Crocodil | Hi :) |
| 13:13.14 | Crocodil | I have a question about using krdc with kdewallet... |
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| 13:14.09 | Crocodil | Is it possible to remember passwords for rdp protocol, but for a different user than me? |
| 13:14.26 | Crocodil | (I'm having a different user on the remote machine) |
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| 13:16.03 | NthDegree | soz igli |
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| 13:16.36 | igli | fine by me mate :) (that was from #gentoo) |
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| 13:17.24 | Tm_T | yeah public aways are irritating ;) |
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| 13:20.20 | tuxick | did i understand right that kde doesn't use qt4 just yet? |
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| 13:21.12 | smileaf | tuxick: no.. the next major kde release kde4 will tho.. that will not be released until sometime later next year |
| 13:21.14 | annma | tuxick: kde4 uses qt4 |
| 13:21.19 | tuxick | ack |
| 13:21.23 | annma | kde4 is not released |
| 13:21.37 | smileaf | morning annma! |
| 13:21.40 | annma | stable release is 3.5.5 coming in a few days |
| 13:21.44 | annma | hi smileaf :)) |
| 13:22.26 | tuxick | i wonder when i'll be getting the old konqeuror icon back in topright corner |
| 13:22.34 | smileaf | you know who I'd talk to about setting up knewstuff? I'm trying to integrate it into my kdm theme applet. |
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| 13:23.10 | annma | smileaf: for kde3? |
| 13:23.17 | smileaf | annma: actually kde4 |
| 13:23.34 | annma | ah knewstuff is not in kdelibs yet i think for kde4 |
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| 13:23.43 | annma | it'll be rewritten |
| 13:23.49 | smileaf | annma: really I guess all I need is an address |
| 13:24.03 | annma | an address for what, smileaf ? |
| 13:24.05 | smileaf | well.. I wouldn't mind backporting it to kde3 also. |
| 13:24.06 | tuxick | what's the setting i must have lost causing loss of several icons? |
| 13:24.28 | annma | tuxick: icons on desktop? |
| 13:24.37 | smileaf | annma: so I can get the latest themes I'd need some sort of address/file to download so knewstuff can display that. |
| 13:24.46 | annma | did you look if the icons are actually there otr not, tuxick ? |
| 13:24.57 | annma | smileaf: you want them from kde-look? |
| 13:25.00 | tuxick | annma: no, the old konq icon in konqueror, the amarok icon in tray |
| 13:25.09 | smileaf | annma: that'll work. |
| 13:25.14 | tuxick | annma: if i knew what to look for and where? |
| 13:25.23 | tuxick | they disappeared a few upgrades ago |
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| 13:25.25 | annma | tuxick: when you try to set an icon, you get a dialog, do the icons show? |
| 13:25.52 | annma | tuxick: your distro problem probably |
| 13:25.56 | tuxick | i don't think i can change that icon in konqueror? |
| 13:26.05 | annma | smileaf: you have to set a provide.xml file |
| 13:26.11 | annma | provider.xml |
| 13:26.15 | tuxick | annma: throughout several versions? |
| 13:26.20 | annma | tuxick: you can change any icon |
| 13:26.31 | tuxick | annma: not the topright one in konq |
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| 13:26.42 | annma | top right! |
| 13:26.51 | tuxick | you know |
| 13:26.56 | tuxick | where IE shows the IE thing |
| 13:26.56 | smileaf | annma: yup.. thing is I'm not sure how I'd get that listing info? I've looked into the background one. |
| 13:26.57 | annma | you mean the K inside konq |
| 13:26.59 | tuxick | and ff the ff |
| 13:27.01 | tuxick | ye |
| 13:27.16 | annma | tuxick: what is your distro? |
| 13:27.17 | leopartux | when i open a file (that has .conf extension) with kate and make some modifications then save it turns to a text file |
| 13:27.56 | leopartux | which program should i use |
| 13:27.58 | smileaf | leopartux: if it wasn't already a text file you shouldn't be opening it with kate to begin with.. |
| 13:27.59 | annma | smileaf: <group name="KNewStuff"> |
| 13:27.59 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.59 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.00 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.02 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.04 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.07 | annma | smileaf: in my .kcfg file |
| 13:28.27 | annma | the providers.xml list the repository url iirc |
| 13:28.28 | tuxick | annma: gentoo |
| 13:28.47 | smileaf | annma: Ok.. I know all that.. I want to know how do I get a listing of the themes themselves? |
| 13:28.47 | annma | ah |
| 13:28.54 | smileaf | :) |
| 13:29.00 | tuxick | hmmm |
| 13:29.11 | tuxick | it's called "animated icon" |
| 13:29.18 | tuxick | and same goes for the amarok one |
| 13:29.27 | tuxick | that narrows it down a bit |
| 13:29.29 | annma | smileaf: this will be in the knewstuff.xml file |
| 13:29.39 | annma | tuxick: grep for it |
| 13:29.44 | tuxick | grep where? |
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| 13:29.55 | annma | in your install dir, /share |
| 13:30.01 | annma | $KDEDIR/share |
| 13:30.22 | annma | smileaf: i only use knewstuff with static files, not with kde-look.org |
| 13:30.25 | tuxick | that'd gonna take a while |
| 13:30.33 | annma | smileaf: i don't know how the parsing is done |
| 13:30.40 | annma | tuxick: well you have time, no? |
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| 13:31.20 | smileaf | annma: Ok.. well I guess I'll email the kde-look guys and see if they can give me a listing. |
| 13:31.29 | tuxick | to look for something i don't know the name of? |
| 13:31.32 | tuxick | no |
| 13:31.41 | annma | smileaf: how is it doen for kcontrol? |
| 13:31.48 | smileaf | didn't wanna email the one on the website as its really not a website issue. |
| 13:31.52 | annma | is it hard written in knewstuff.xml file? |
| 13:32.02 | smileaf | annma: it accesses download.kde.org |
| 13:32.15 | smileaf | somehow pulls the info from kde-look also |
| 13:32.25 | annma | it's done with scripts maybe |
| 13:32.27 | tuxick | annma: so there's no default location or an env setting? |
| 13:32.30 | smileaf | maybe |
| 13:32.38 | annma | KStars also use kde-files.org |
| 13:33.06 | annma | the kde-xxx.org guy is frank karlitchek or something like that |
| 13:33.16 | annma | you can email him |
| 13:33.16 | leopartux | smileaf: the file is an orijinal apache conf file (C++ ..... file) i edit it and it turns to text file |
| 13:33.32 | smileaf | leopartux: c++ files are text files.. |
| 13:34.01 | leopartux | so which program should i use to edit it |
| 13:34.11 | smileaf | I use kate |
| 13:34.27 | leopartux | so do i |
| 13:34.38 | leopartux | bur it turns |
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| 13:35.24 | smileaf | I guess I don't understand what you mean by "it turns into a text file" ? |
| 13:36.55 | leopartux | when you right click on it and chose properties |
| 13:37.08 | leopartux | you can see its type |
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| 13:37.33 | smileaf | yah |
| 13:37.41 | leopartux | :) |
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| 13:38.20 | collin | I installed kde and i already had gnome, when i try to start kde it says that "could not find kstartupconfig, please check installation", any ideas? |
| 13:38.23 | leopartux | the icon of the file also changes |
| 13:38.26 | smileaf | so your saying somehow when you edit your .cpp files.. that dialog then starts saying its a "Plain Text Document" ? |
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| 13:39.59 | smileaf | works fine here.. |
| 13:40.09 | leopartux | try editing apache httpd.conf file |
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| 13:40.21 | smileaf | httpd.conf are not c++ files |
| 13:40.44 | leopartux | so how can i edit |
| 13:40.45 | lefti | hi, can ktorrent continue with torrent leeching ? |
| 13:40.48 | lefti | s/with// |
| 13:40.58 | smileaf | leopartux: you can edit it with kate just fine |
| 13:40.59 | lefti | juu |
| 13:41.08 | grepper | collin: what debian version ? |
| 13:42.02 | smileaf | leopartux: more or less the fact that kde is saying the httpd.conf file is a c++ header file is a bug.. not that kate is changing its file type (which its not) |
| 13:42.36 | collin | grepper: i have ubuntu 6.06 |
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| 13:43.39 | grepper | collin: ah, well its in kdelibs4c2a on debian unstable |
| 13:43.41 | visik7 | do you get amazon.com work with konqueror ? |
| 13:43.48 | visik7 | first it open than blank page |
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| 13:44.05 | visik7 | and get this url in the bar |
| 13:44.05 | visik7 | http://ad.doubleclick.net/adi/amazon.pilot/;type=inv_pixel;sz=1x1;ord=145? |
| 13:44.17 | visik7 | but no way to get the amazon site |
| 13:44.34 | collin | grepper: okay, so i just need to install that package? |
| 13:44.55 | KDEfanboy | visik7: yep |
| 13:44.58 | grepper | collin: well, you should not have been able to install kde without it |
| 13:45.02 | visik7 | what's the problem ? |
| 13:45.06 | KDEfanboy | dunno |
| 13:45.13 | KDEfanboy | visik7: i get it fine |
| 13:45.16 | grepper | collin: what command did you use to install kde ? |
| 13:45.21 | visik7 | no problem with firefox |
| 13:45.36 | leopartux | i am tryin to edit apache files but it does not work as i want i think that this convertion is problem. |
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| 13:46.23 | collin | grepper: i used synaptic package manager and I installed the kubuntu-desktop |
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| 13:47.33 | KDEfanboy | visik7: no prob with konq 3.5.4 or svn |
| 13:47.41 | visik7 | here 3.5.2 from kubuntu |
| 13:47.56 | grepper | collin: apt-get --reinstall install the_kdelibs_packages |
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| 13:48.08 | grepper | dpkg -l |grep kdelibs (to find them) |
| 13:48.30 | collin | okay |
| 13:49.06 | grepper | collin: possibly kdelibs-bin |
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| 13:49.16 | KDEfanboy | visik7: no prob on edgy |
| 13:49.32 | visik7 | dunno |
| 13:49.37 | KDEfanboy | same |
| 13:49.49 | KDEfanboy | visik7: ask a dapper user on #kubuntu |
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| 14:13.33 | KRF | when i play video files in mplayer audio and video are synced, but when i play the same file in kmplayer (with mplayer-engine) sound gets more and more out of sync while playing. what's wrong? |
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| 14:17.32 | deego | it leaves me in a window menu, and i have to press "enter" to get rid of this window-menu thingy |
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| 14:19.41 | deego | ah, this is after the security fixes of yesterday, must be an xlibs library breaking some kbd functionality |
| 14:19.47 | deego | (debian) |
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| 14:38.05 | goki____ | Is there a kde tool for partitioning/formatting disks? |
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| 14:38.51 | KRF | goki____: try qtparted, gparted |
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| 14:40.08 | goki____ | thanks |
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| 14:42.48 | KDave | Hello there... KDE 3.5.5 will be released today? |
| 14:43.05 | appelza | Unlikely |
| 14:43.16 | icwiener | KDave: Where did you get that information from? |
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| 14:43.48 | KDave | http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html |
| 14:44.11 | icwiener | KDave: thx, I looked for that earlier. :) |
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| 14:44.27 | KDave | icwiener: np :) |
| 14:45.01 | KDave | appelza: Why? |
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| 14:55.08 | appelza | KDave: just a guess, usually the ebuilds arrive a day or so before the official release into gentoo's portage and that hasnt happened yet. |
| 14:55.23 | appelza | Been true for both .4 and .3 |
| 14:55.31 | appelza | But yeah, just a guess |
| 14:55.56 | icwiener | appelza: 3.5.5 isn't in portage yet? |
| 14:57.48 | goki____ | parted doesn't really seem to work at all |
| 14:58.09 | KDave | icwiener: it is, more than a week |
| 14:58.21 | KDave | appelza: ? |
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| 15:00.32 | KRF | goki____, but it should :) |
| 15:01.24 | KDave | try `find /portage/kde-base/ -name "*3.5.5.ebuild" -type f | wc -l' -- it returns 283 |
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| 15:03.48 | appelza | Oh ok |
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| 15:06.03 | annma | it's probably in testing |
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| 15:06.27 | annma | gentoo has the habit to put kde in testing even if kde releases a stable version |
| 15:06.51 | Quaru | Hey annma |
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| 15:06.57 | annma | hi Quaru |
| 15:07.20 | Quaru | I'm forgetful today, where do I look for help on developing kde stuff? |
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| 15:07.40 | annma | Quaru: developing kde3 or kde4? |
| 15:07.45 | Quaru | 3, atm |
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| 15:07.51 | annma | you mean the channel on IRC? |
| 15:07.54 | Quaru | yeah |
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| 15:07.57 | annma | or some doc? |
| 15:08.03 | annma | channel is #kde-devel |
| 15:08.13 | Quaru | Thanks. :) |
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| 15:11.07 | gemidjy | what is the rc entry of the windows for the Showing Menu option ? |
| 15:11.11 | gemidjy | ShowMenu=0 |
| 15:11.13 | gemidjy | ? :S |
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| 15:16.51 | SimAtWork | morning all |
| 15:17.32 | KDave | annma: it's hardmasked, because it's not yet released... and yes, gentoo has the habit to put kde in testing even if kde releases a stable version, because it needs testing anyway... |
| 15:17.47 | annma | it needs gentoo testing |
| 15:21.38 | icwiener_ | I always prefer to say that the ebuilds are testing. :D |
| 15:21.47 | icwiener_ | Like the packages in Debian Sid. |
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| 15:22.55 | sF|Xemanth^ | is there any cataloging program for kde ? |
| 15:23.11 | sF|Xemanth^ | it scans whats on cd and name of the cd and saves it to catalog |
| 15:23.50 | sF|Xemanth^ | and then if i fould like to find dvd/cd which would have the search word it would say media's name which has it |
| 15:24.15 | annma | amarok |
| 15:24.19 | annma | well |
| 15:24.22 | Quaru | kinda |
| 15:24.23 | annma | not really |
| 15:24.26 | annma | ;) |
| 15:24.27 | sF|Xemanth^ | not really |
| 15:24.34 | annma | no, sorry |
| 15:24.52 | Quaru | I thought there was one I saw that did that though... |
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| 15:25.15 | sF|Xemanth^ | but hmm-m amarok engine would be hmm ok for that |
| 15:25.19 | annma | did you look at kde-apps, sF|Xemanth^ ? |
| 15:25.22 | Quaru | I only listen to ripped CDs, so I didn't care... But I thought there was one outside of KDE |
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| 15:25.43 | sF|Xemanth^ | annma: in kde-apps there's like zillion aps which are outdated and don't work with 3.5.4 |
| 15:25.50 | sF|Xemanth^ | and yes i checked |
| 15:25.54 | Quaru | huh... |
| 15:26.08 | annma | ... |
| 15:26.24 | sF|Xemanth^ | kde-apps site should get redesigned |
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| 15:26.50 | sF|Xemanth^ | same for kde-look |
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| 15:28.14 | annma | sF|Xemanth^: mail the webmaster |
| 15:28.25 | annma | it's outside kde websites |
| 15:28.35 | sF|Xemanth^ | Window Decorations |
| 15:28.36 | sF|Xemanth^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.36 | sF|Xemanth^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.43 | sF|Xemanth^ | erm, what does that mean |
| 15:29.01 | annma | that means those websites are not maintained by kde people |
| 15:29.06 | sF|Xemanth^ | 3.x is like 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 and so on |
| 15:29.08 | annma | there are not in kde svn |
| 15:29.19 | annma | so mail the webmaster and tell him your ideas please |
| 15:29.39 | sF|Xemanth^ | and is 3.2 +, 3.2.1 and bigger of that |
| 15:29.41 | sF|Xemanth^ | yea i will |
| 15:30.01 | smileaf | annma: wonder if there is any interest for a kde-look in kde svn :) |
| 15:30.25 | annma | ;) |
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| 15:31.07 | smileaf | kde-look/kde-apps is getting to be really outdated IMO. |
| 15:31.13 | annma | yes |
| 15:31.16 | KRF | is it possible to tell kmail not to colorize for instance gpg-signed mails? i want to have the source, no green tables :/ |
| 15:32.40 | icwiener_ | Dies View -> Headers -> All Headers affect the green frame? |
| 15:32.49 | icwiener_ | s/Dies/Does/ |
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| 15:36.02 | gemidjy | The fonts combobox in Konqueror suddenly got empty :S |
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| 15:36.07 | gemidjy | strange things happen latelyt |
| 15:36.16 | spafbnerf | is it possible to copy an image to the clipboard in kde? :o and how? |
| 15:36.58 | gemidjy | ctrl+c ? |
| 15:38.10 | spafbnerf | lol, yes, well... let's say i had a jpeg on my computer ... i wanted to put in the clipboard .... |
| 15:38.17 | spafbnerf | gwenview/kview no copy option .... |
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| 15:38.54 | ponto | spafbnerf: if you click on copy in konqueror? |
| 15:39.25 | spafbnerf | if i open it in konqueror copy is greyed out .... |
| 15:39.33 | hagabaka | spafbnerf: what do you want to paste it in? if it's an image editor, you could just copy it there |
| 15:39.38 | spafbnerf | ditto for if i switch to kview/gwenview within konqueror .... |
| 15:39.43 | spafbnerf | i want to paste it into kopete ... |
| 15:39.46 | hagabaka | if as a file, just select it and use konqueror |
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| 15:39.54 | ponto | spafbnerf: not open. right click on the file |
| 15:40.19 | hagabaka | then select to send the file in kopete |
| 15:40.55 | spafbnerf | hmmmm, ok that gives me a file:// reference to the file .... |
| 15:41.12 | hagabaka | i don't think you can send an image inline with text in most IM protocols |
| 15:41.33 | ponto | spafbnerf: and drag & drop? |
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| 15:42.10 | spafbnerf | does same thing .... |
| 15:42.42 | spafbnerf | i don't necessarily want it inline .... & i know msn should handle it.... then again i'v no reason to believe its bn implemented :/ |
| 15:43.00 | hagabaka | you can still just do a send file |
| 15:43.16 | greister | How to make sytem know my usb-disk automaticly. |
| 15:43.44 | spafbnerf | yes i know .... but that ruins the suprise factor for person on receiving end .... |
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| 16:00.14 | x_link | Hi |
| 16:00.18 | x_link | I need some help. |
| 16:00.29 | x_link | Can I just ask the question ? |
| 16:01.08 | x_link | I made my K Menu transparent yesterday, but I want to make it more transparent. But I can't, cause then I will not be able to see the letters cause they are black. |
| 16:01.21 | x_link | Is it possible to change the color of the letters to whit ? |
| 16:01.23 | x_link | white even |
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| 16:02.49 | x_link | Hi psychollek |
| 16:02.49 | x_link | Can you help me ? |
| 16:02.51 | x_link | Sems like nobody is online., |
| 16:03.48 | annma | the color cannot be changed i think |
| 16:03.53 | annma | not sure |
| 16:03.58 | annma | have to go anyway |
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| 16:04.37 | x_link | annma: Okey |
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| 16:09.32 | Quaru | x_link: I do not think it can be changed. |
| 16:10.21 | x_link | Yes, I just made it. |
| 16:10.29 | x_link | But then all the other letters gets white also. |
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| 16:10.38 | x_link | Now I can't see the letters in the Menus etc. |
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| 16:17.42 | Quaru | Right. changed all menu font. |
| 16:18.15 | x_link | Control Center --- Appearance & Themes --- Colors -- Widget Colors -- Standard Text |
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| 16:36.05 | azzco | Hi is there anyway to import the contact list from kopete into contact |
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| 17:19.46 | cratylus | hey all, does kde have a sudo launcher so that a user can launch some app as a nother one and get authenticated? |
| 17:21.05 | oGALAXYo | ksudo ? |
| 17:21.14 | shadok | hava a look at "kdesu" here http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_4to3_5_5.php |
| 17:22.07 | sredna | In kubuntu sudo is the default |
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| 17:23.51 | bartos | can i controll konqueror from external subprocess? |
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| 17:24.02 | bartos | *sorr.. process |
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| 17:24.54 | cratylus | Galaxy, shadok and sredna: thanks for the ideas, kdesu seems to work from the command line |
| 17:25.02 | cratylus | gonna give it a go from an app link |
| 17:25.04 | eNTi | hey guys. if i start the printer dialog in the kde control center and try to restart the server it says: "Unable to configure print server... blabla probably permissions..." but i'm in adminstrator mode. |
| 17:25.14 | shadok | np cratylus |
| 17:26.05 | bartos | for example to hide toolbar or menu by passing some parameters to running konqueror ( here comes next question.. how can i pass such argument to running process? ) ? |
| 17:26.28 | cratylus | sweet, worked there as well, kdesu -u differentuser -n /usr/local/app/myappbinary did the trick |
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| 17:27.49 | sredna | bartos: Dcop |
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| 17:47.05 | bartos | sredna, thanx , now i see the light in the tunnel:) |
| 17:47.38 | sredna | bartos: You can use kdcop to get a graphical overview of available methods |
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| 17:49.59 | bartos | i need to write simple python program for remote controll the konqueror (apearance and the content) |
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| 17:52.08 | thiago | bartos: you'll have better luck with C++ |
| 17:52.16 | thiago | but, you can check PyKDE out |
| 17:52.26 | thiago | I hear the bindings are quite complete |
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| 17:56.04 | bartos | i wanted to use pyQt for the gui and dcop to control the web-browser |
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| 17:59.47 | bartos | why to hell i've never heard of dcop before.. 8) |
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| 18:03.19 | bartos | one more question: can i disable right mouse button in konqueror? |
| 18:03.38 | thiago | you don't fully control Konqueror with DCOP |
| 18:03.46 | thiago | but you may be able to with a Konqueror plugin. |
| 18:03.54 | thiago | you can't disable the RMB. |
| 18:04.13 | bartos | i did it to panel and kikcer with kiosktool, but i need to do the same to konqueror |
| 18:04.53 | thiago | you can lock the configuration, but I don't think you can lock the RMB completely |
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| 18:06.13 | bartos | thiago: you think i could remap right click to act as LMB? |
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| 18:20.08 | thiago | bartos: no |
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| 18:45.49 | elaff | Hello, i downloaded the KDE theme manager via synaptic, but where do i find the theme manager? =) |
| 18:46.03 | shadok | in kcontrol I suppose |
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| 18:46.25 | elaff | ahh, there it is |
| 18:46.27 | elaff | thanks! |
| 18:46.31 | Renacor | anybody know where you can configure the include dir and library dir for kdevelop in an existing project? |
| 18:46.47 | shadok | you're welcome :) |
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| 18:47.56 | SimAtWork | Renacor: under project, project options |
| 18:48.40 | Renacor | SimAtWork: I tried that I couldn't see it anywhere |
| 18:49.03 | Renacor | SimAtWork: I don't think it's linker options cause I entered options when I first created the project and they are not there |
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| 18:52.33 | Viper550 | How should I celebrate the 10 year birthday of KDE? |
| 18:52.47 | Atoms | just kill yourself |
| 18:52.51 | Renze | by sending me a cheque :D |
| 18:53.42 | Liquid_Fire | run ten instances of KDE simultaneously |
| 18:54.01 | Viper550 | I'm thinking of redesigning my KDE desktop for the occassion |
| 18:54.14 | shadok | a donation to kde :) |
| 18:54.37 | Viper550 | how should I do it? |
| 18:55.13 | Renacor | Viper550: by telling me where I set linker options and include dir's in kdevelop? :) |
| 18:55.35 | Viper550 | ??? (hint hint to other people?) |
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| 18:55.44 | thiago | Viper550: by going to Stuttgart |
| 18:56.02 | elaff | i downloaded this theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46280 |
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| 18:56.19 | elaff | but in kdmtheme it says its not a valid theme, whats wrong with that? |
| 18:56.39 | shadok | Viper550, you have a link here http://download.kde.org/download.php |
| 18:56.52 | smileaf | elaff: because that is not a kdm theme.. it's a kde style |
| 18:57.13 | elaff | whats diffrence between a style and a theme? |
| 18:57.21 | thiago | elaff: one is for KDE, the other is for kdm. |
| 18:57.25 | Renze | elaff: because the person who made that package isn't very smart... it's just a selection of config files for different parts |
| 18:57.32 | Viper550 | I already have KDE! |
| 18:57.33 | smileaf | elaff: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40 <-- find kdm themes here |
| 18:57.42 | thiago | elaff: a KDE stype comprises of window decorations, icon theme and widget style. Maybe also wallpaper. |
| 18:58.01 | shadok | Viper550, erf I thought you replied to my sentence <shadok> a donation to kde :) |
| 18:58.10 | thiago | elaff: a kdm theme is just that: it configures the login window. |
| 18:58.19 | shadok | so I gave you a link to the donation page ^^ |
| 18:58.28 | smileaf | thiago: a little too global for the page he just gave as an example really ;) |
| 18:58.39 | elaff | oh, only login window ??? |
| 18:58.48 | thiago | elaff: yes, that's what kdm is. |
| 18:58.48 | smileaf | elaff: correct! |
| 18:58.53 | thiago | elaff: kdm is the login window. |
| 18:58.58 | shadok | villr[]ye, what do you mean here " redesigning my KDE desktop " |
| 18:58.59 | shadok | ? |
| 18:58.59 | elaff | ok :)) |
| 18:59.00 | Viper550 | how should I redesign my desktop for the occassion? |
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| 18:59.20 | elaff | is there a kde style switcher like kdm theme? |
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| 18:59.35 | shadok | elaff, sure, in kcontrol/styles |
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| 19:00.05 | smileaf | elaff: yes, but the theme you are trying to install requires a package from your distribution. |
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| 19:00.56 | smileaf | elaff: once installed they can be easily configured: kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> style |
| 19:01.21 | elaff | i have swedish kde, ill try to translate that :P |
| 19:02.17 | shadok | I hope you are Swedish ^^ |
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| 19:02.40 | Renze | børk |
| 19:02.49 | kucrut | Renze: ... |
| 19:02.53 | Renze | kucrut: ... |
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| 19:03.00 | shadok | huhu |
| 19:04.55 | elaff | i dont get how i shall install my downloaded styles :S |
| 19:06.05 | smileaf | elaff: what distro do you run? |
| 19:06.12 | elaff | kubuntu |
| 19:06.44 | kucrut | *sigh* |
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| 19:07.49 | shadok | ^^ |
| 19:07.56 | elaff | what? |
| 19:08.03 | elaff | :) |
| 19:08.11 | shadok | nothing :D |
| 19:08.14 | smileaf | Oh.. it's not your normal style. this should be a little easier for you =) |
| 19:08.47 | smileaf | looks like you need QtCurve installed.. and the rest is just importing them in. |
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| 19:09.29 | shadok | to import it you need to go to kcontrol and import from the QtCurve options |
| 19:09.45 | madclicker | i have an imap account, i keep getting these messages "Mails on the server in folder IMAP Account/inbox/Sent were deleted. Do you want to delete them locally?" how can i disable them/ |
| 19:09.55 | madclicker | ? |
| 19:10.06 | madclicker | using kmail |
| 19:10.21 | shadok | in preferences I bet |
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| 19:10.44 | madclicker | shadok, i looked but there is nothing that would do that |
| 19:10.48 | kojiro | Hi, how can I get a trash icon on my desktop? It wasn't there by default. |
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| 19:11.22 | shadok | ah, I don't use kmail but it should have been here |
| 19:11.31 | madclicker | shadok, there is warning when "deleteing messages" there is warning when moving messages but nothing for the imap account |
| 19:11.47 | madclicker | shadok, what do you use? |
| 19:11.53 | shadok | madclicker, thunderbird |
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| 19:12.11 | shadok | and there is a options for this in it |
| 19:12.13 | madclicker | kmail used to be okay, but with the latest updates in debian it is fuckin anoying |
| 19:12.15 | shadok | *option |
| 19:12.45 | shadok | maybe you could downgrade until the next version or something like that |
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| 19:18.13 | madclicker | grr |
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| 19:26.39 | vasi | hi, what draws the wallpaper in KDE? |
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| 19:27.05 | vasi | i'm getting just a plain black background, which i can't seem to change....and i don't know where to look for more info |
| 19:27.43 | annma | what kde version? |
| 19:28.08 | annma | right clicking onthe desktop should bring a menu with Configure Desktop in it |
| 19:28.19 | annma | there you will find a wallpaper tab |
| 19:28.37 | vasi | yeah, it doesn't do that |
| 19:28.38 | annma | Background tab |
| 19:28.43 | annma | why not? |
| 19:28.45 | vasi | tried that |
| 19:28.50 | Renze | kdesktop isn't running, it seems |
| 19:28.51 | annma | what distro? |
| 19:28.52 | vasi | right clicking on the background gives nothing |
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| 19:29.08 | vasi | Renze: ah, that's what it's called....yeah, that's not running |
| 19:29.10 | vasi | debian |
| 19:29.21 | annma | is it standard stuff? |
| 19:29.25 | Renze | that's why you have no wallpaper and no right click menu |
| 19:29.32 | annma | or did you change things? |
| 19:29.36 | vasi | Renze: thanks :-) |
| 19:29.41 | Renze | no problem |
| 19:29.56 | vasi | annma, we're not the first admins of this system....we're not sure what the ppl before did |
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| 19:30.09 | annma | vasi: ;) ah, that explains |
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| 19:32.15 | vasi | hmm, looks like our kdesktop package is borked....gonna reinstall it, hope that helps |
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| 19:41.22 | anabain | does anyone use teTeX? |
| 19:41.40 | anabain | and kile? |
| 19:44.46 | claire | I use kile anabain |
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| 19:46.06 | mariux | thiago: here? |
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| 19:47.24 | raich | help! my Gl screensavers won't load |
| 19:47.29 | raich | GL* |
| 19:47.46 | anabain | claire, I have a weird problem with fonts, but perhaps it is related to this duplicity: |
| 19:47.56 | anabain | /etc/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg |
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| 19:48.09 | anabain | /var/lib/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg |
| 19:48.34 | raich | help! my GL screensavers won't load |
| 19:48.35 | claire | anabain: what are the exact symptoms? |
| 19:48.43 | anabain | it seems updmap-sys only changes the second file... |
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| 19:49.16 | anabain | claire, I've installed a font that cannot be viewed with kdvi, I only get black boxes |
| 19:49.56 | claire | anabain: honestly, I don't know TeTex well enough to help you |
| 19:50.00 | anabain | but when converting it to ps and then viewing it, it works. Moreover, xdvi foo.dvi does work, too |
| 19:50.45 | raich | help! my GL screensavers won't load |
| 19:50.46 | claire | anabain: kdvi doesn't always show your document the way it actually is, I've noticed that when doing dvi2pdf |
| 19:51.23 | anabain | yes, but it is very useful to "preview" docs |
| 19:51.46 | claire | anabain: I'm not sure how to make kdvi use the correct font, have you contacted Jeroen Wijnhout? |
| 19:52.11 | claire | anabain: or a kdvi dude(tte)? |
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| 19:53.02 | anabain | not yet, claire |
| 19:53.20 | claire | anabain: sorry that I can't help you |
| 19:53.29 | anabain | np |
| 19:53.41 | anabain | thanx anyway |
| 19:53.53 | claire | np, good luck :) |
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| 20:00.02 | Smak | /info |
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| 20:08.45 | olaf123 | hi |
| 20:09.07 | olaf123 | is somebody able to tell me why printing from editors (kate, kedit) is fine/well, but printing from ooWriter, Kwriter a.s.o. is slidered ~5mm to the right side ? |
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| 20:10.02 | Smak | ur complaining about 5mm |
| 20:11.03 | Smak | so first of all, kate/kedit are straight txt printing, where as ooWriter & Kwriter are not. Both of them have print setup options |
| 20:12.40 | olaf123 | Smak: the documents are my ofice-files, there are 5mm very basic |
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| 20:13.45 | olaf123 | Smak: I have lokk at all setup options for many hours, but I can not find any difference |
| 20:13.58 | Smak | again, see my post. There is a difference when printing, because there is two different printing methods being applied. There is a print setup in oo & koffice |
| 20:14.19 | Renze | olaf123: since it happens in oowriter, and openoffice is not KDE, it is nothing to do with KDE. I suspect it is a printer driver issue. |
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| 20:14.48 | olaf123 | Renze: the problem is with kwriter too |
| 20:15.10 | olaf123 | only printing with editors is okay |
| 20:15.14 | Renze | olaf123: yes, but since it happens in oowriter also, the problem is lower down than KDE and therefore does not belong in this channel |
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| 20:16.10 | olaf123 | Renze: in oo they say I have to got to 'suse, there they say I have to go to cups, and there they say I have to got to kde, and there... |
| 20:16.24 | Renze | cups sounds like the right place |
| 20:16.36 | Smak | No, just change the default margins |
| 20:16.41 | Renze | olaf123: have you ever heard the phrase "passing the buck"? |
| 20:17.20 | olaf123 | Smak: I have tried this a few days before |
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| 20:17.32 | olaf123 | Renze: no |
| 20:17.40 | Smak | olaf123: In OO, goto format, click on page |
| 20:17.50 | Renze | olaf123: it means they are too lazy to help you, and that's why they sent you to another channel |
| 20:17.50 | olaf123 | Smak: I have do so |
| 20:18.12 | olaf123 | Renze: think so, too |
| 20:18.22 | Renze | this channel is for KDE problems only, not for general linux printing problems |
| 20:18.29 | olaf123 | ok |
| 20:18.34 | Smak | if you did, and did it correctly, then there is a driver issue |
| 20:18.57 | Smak | What printer do you have? |
| 20:19.03 | olaf123 | Epson cx11 |
| 20:19.23 | olaf123 | and driver from http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_mfp.html |
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| 20:20.58 | SonicChao | How do I make the clock display in PM and AM? |
| 20:21.23 | Smak | SonicChao: Are you kidding? |
| 20:21.32 | SonicChao | >>; |
| 20:21.43 | SonicChao | Not really. |
| 20:21.44 | Smak | SonicChao: is it 2 hard to right click on the clock, and select the format tab |
| 20:21.50 | Renze | SonicChao: control centre -> regional & accessibility -> country/region & language, time & dates tab, use the dropdown next to time format |
| 20:22.01 | Renze | set it to pH:MM:SS AMPM |
| 20:22.07 | SonicChao | Maybe everyone doesn't know where to click, smak. |
| 20:22.14 | Renze | then the clock applet will need to be restarted |
| 20:22.21 | SonicChao | Renacor: kcontrol? |
| 20:22.36 | SonicChao | Renze: kcontrol? |
| 20:22.37 | Renze | SonicChao: yes, kcontrol... where all of KDE's settings are done |
| 20:22.41 | SonicChao | Ok |
| 20:23.03 | SonicChao | Kubuntu also has a "KMenu --> System Settings" |
| 20:23.13 | Renze | ugh... kubuntu |
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| 20:23.33 | SonicChao | I've noticed it's not liked by many in the Linux world. |
| 20:23.34 | SonicChao | Why? |
| 20:23.47 | Renze | because they mess up KDE in a fairly major way |
| 20:23.58 | Renze | makes tech support harder |
| 20:24.02 | benJIman | and it's not really a kde distro, it's a gnome distro with kde packages. |
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| 20:24.33 | Smak | olaf123: try just the generic postscript driver |
| 20:25.07 | SonicChao | Well, I did install the package "kubuntu-desktop", but that's because GNOME was a pain in the ass. >< |
| 20:25.36 | SonicChao | So, how do you restart the clock applet? |
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| 20:28.49 | Smak | SonicChao: logout/login |
| 20:28.54 | SonicChao | k |
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| 20:31.22 | SonicChao | Ok, that worked. Thanks. =3 |
| 20:31.52 | Renze | no problem |
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| 20:48.33 | Roger_Enrasson | hello everybody. |
| 20:48.34 | picca | KDE 3.5.5 looks like it is going to be good |
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| 20:49.05 | Roger_Enrasson | can anybody tell me, how to make Konqueror see SWF animations? |
| 20:49.21 | picca | it seems you access the release announcment |
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| 20:50.01 | Renze | Roger_Enrasson: install the netscape flash plugin, then tell konqueror where it is |
| 20:50.30 | Roger_Enrasson | Renze: I can't find where to tell him! |
| 20:50.49 | Roger_Enrasson | Renze: maybe it's because konq-plugins are not installed? |
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| 20:50.58 | Renze | Roger_Enrasson: Settings -> Configure Konqueror, Plugins page... make sure the path to the plugin is in the list |
| 20:51.10 | Renze | Roger_Enrasson: possibly... that package is distro specific |
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| 20:53.34 | Roger_Enrasson | Renze: yeah, I don't have that page. but konq-plugins don't want ot be built, it says that library libesd.la in /usr/lib is missing |
| 20:53.54 | Renze | kde doesn't use esd |
| 20:55.02 | Roger_Enrasson | but it wants that library! |
| 20:55.14 | Roger_Enrasson | posting build errors... :/ |
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| 20:56.20 | Renze | Roger_Enrasson: distro? |
| 20:57.48 | anabain | claire, problem solved!!!! :) |
| 20:57.49 | Roger_Enrasson | Renze: Gentoo. KDE 3.5.2 |
| 20:58.01 | Renze | fix your use flags |
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| 20:58.13 | Roger_Enrasson | hm. |
| 20:58.14 | anabain | it wasn't kdvi's fault, but debian teTeX config files, claire |
| 20:58.25 | claire | anabain: cool :) |
| 20:58.53 | anabain | be careful, then, if you use tetex and install new type1 fonts manually |
| 20:59.14 | claire | anabain: ok, thank you :) |
| 20:59.37 | anabain | you must get rid of /etc/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg |
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| 21:01.20 | itsucks | what is the best lx console mode irc sw ? |
| 21:01.46 | itsucks | -l it |
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| 21:07.15 | er4z0r | hi there |
| 21:07.58 | er4z0r | I have a problem: I changed my screen resolution in KDE, instead of logging out after that, i just strg-alt-backspaced the X-Server |
| 21:08.28 | er4z0r | now I cannot load the Display-Module in Kcontorl anymore |
| 21:08.39 | er4z0r | but still the res. is 600x480 |
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| 21:10.06 | davascript | #/etc/init.d/xdm restart |
| 21:10.18 | davascript | er4z0r |
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| 21:26.09 | er4z0r | hmm cannot be |
| 21:26.13 | er4z0r | I am using kdm |
| 21:27.50 | er4z0r | please help me |
| 21:28.04 | er4z0r | There must be some place kde stores the screen-res settings |
| 21:28.23 | Renacor | damnit why isn't kdevelop using my include dirs and my lib dirs??? |
| 21:28.40 | Renze | er4z0r: ~/.kde/share/config/kcmdisplayrc ? |
| 21:29.29 | Renze | nope, that's not it |
| 21:29.51 | er4z0r | Renze: right, but thank you for trying |
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| 21:32.50 | Renze | er4z0r: ~/.kde/share/config/kcmrandrrc ? |
| 21:32.55 | Renacor | how do you set the libdir and include dir in kdevelop |
| 21:33.27 | Renacor | so far I can only see it in the filename.kdevelop file |
| 21:34.54 | Renze | er4z0r: you might also want to look at ~/.kde/share/config/startupconfig |
| 21:35.44 | er4z0r | Renze: ah ok, the ~/.kde/share/config/kcmrandrrc does not exist for me |
| 21:36.21 | Renze | er4z0r: I'm grasping at straws here... I don't use the display module for setting my res... I edit xorg.conf for that :) |
| 21:37.07 | er4z0r | Renze: I already did a dpkg-reconfigure for xorg |
| 21:37.27 | Renze | I have no idea what dpkg-reconfigure does... I don't use a debian based distro :) |
| 21:37.28 | er4z0r | Renze: after that Xorg didn't come up at all |
| 21:37.44 | er4z0r | Renze: hmm let me guess, Gentoo? |
| 21:37.47 | Renze | yup |
| 21:37.53 | er4z0r | ;) |
| 21:38.28 | hermier | real men use slackware :p |
| 21:38.40 | Renze | real men use LFS without package management :P |
| 21:38.54 | Renacor | can somebody please tell me where I set the include dir and libdir in kdevelop??? |
| 21:38.54 | er4z0r | :D |
| 21:38.56 | er4z0r | aye |
| 21:39.01 | hermier | non LFS is for insane men :p |
| 21:39.12 | Renze | Renacor: have you asked in #kdevelop or #kde-devel ? |
| 21:39.20 | benJIman | Renacor: I could never find anywhere |
| 21:39.33 | er4z0r | Renze: what exactly do I have to change in xorg.conf? |
| 21:39.34 | benJIman | but setting environment variables before launching it starts. |
| 21:39.53 | er4z0r | Renze: just the order of resolutions? |
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| 21:40.07 | Renze | er4z0r: the Modes line in Section "Screen", Subsection "Display" |
| 21:40.19 | Renze | put the res you want first in the list |
| 21:40.31 | Renze | e.g. Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| 21:40.37 | Renacor | Renze: no, let me |
| 21:40.59 | er4z0r | ah |
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| 21:57.20 | Techdeck | hello, how do I fix this error? "KSMServer: Error listening for connections: Cannot establish any listening sockets" |
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| 21:59.26 | PhilRod | when does that error occur? |
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| 22:00.16 | alesan | hi |
| 22:00.22 | PhilRod | hi alesan |
| 22:00.39 | alesan | I would like to start .kmx files with googleearth, but konqueror treats them as .zip files |
| 22:00.48 | alesan | .kmz sorry |
| 22:01.00 | alesan | what can I do? |
| 22:01.04 | PhilRod | try creating a new file type in the file associations settings |
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| 22:01.13 | alesan | PhilRod, umh... |
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| 22:01.35 | PhilRod | in konqueror, settings->configure konqueror -> file assoc. |
| 22:01.53 | Techdeck | PhilRod, when I try to start X |
| 22:02.12 | Techdeck | well, in the 'pheriphels' part, or whatever it's called |
| 22:02.19 | alesan | PhilRod, what should I set as a "group"? |
| 22:02.41 | Techdeck | peripherals |
| 22:02.59 | PhilRod | Techdeck: hrm, I'm not really sure. Check you have write permissions to /tmp and /var/tmp . You could also try with a new user to see if the problem is related to your user config (eg, stale files lying around somewhere) |
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| 22:03.08 | PhilRod | alesan: "application", I guess |
| 22:03.28 | PhilRod | brb |
| 22:03.42 | alesan | PhilRod, and Type name should be something like "googleearth" or the actual extension? |
| 22:07.09 | er4z0r | hmm something still seems to be wrong about my xorg config |
| 22:07.14 | er4z0r | still to low res |
| 22:07.31 | Techdeck | PhilRod, nope.. I got permissions to /tmp and /var/tmp and it doesn't work as another user |
| 22:07.35 | Techdeck | will a full log help you? |
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| 22:08.26 | Techdeck | hmm, what does 'PRNG is not seeded' mean? |
| 22:10.14 | er4z0r | Renze: tdoes the order of the modelines matter? |
| 22:10.17 | PhilRod | Techdeck: it means there was a problem setting up the random number generator. *Which* random number generator (system, KDE, ...) I don't know |
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| 22:10.51 | PhilRod | er4z0r: no - X tries to find one that matches the specification of your monitor, ie the HorizSync and VertRefresh values you put in xorg.conf |
| 22:11.41 | Techdeck | PhilRod, kde starts as root |
| 22:11.44 | Techdeck | just not as normal users |
| 22:11.49 | Techdeck | im guessing its permissions problem, but where |
| 22:12.03 | PhilRod | Techdeck: what distro? |
| 22:12.07 | Techdeck | my own |
| 22:12.09 | Techdeck | :p |
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| 22:14.09 | PhilRod | Techdeck: the only thing I can think of is to strace ksmserver. Might give you a hint |
| 22:14.30 | PhilRod | but did you really try with a *newly-created* user? (not an existing one, that could have stale config files) |
| 22:15.34 | PhilRod | alesan: type name can be whatever you like, I think. You might want to prefix it with "x-", since that seems to be the standard for "unofficial" types |
| 22:15.49 | PhilRod | then you can set the extension separately |
| 22:16.51 | alesan | PhilRod, ok |
| 22:16.52 | Renze | er4z0r: no |
| 22:17.10 | PhilRod | Renze: I beat you to it ;-P |
| 22:17.28 | Renze | I was gaining an understanding of water :D |
| 22:18.09 | okok_ | hi |
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| 22:18.42 | Techdeck | PhilRod, ok, I had to chmod some /dev/s |
| 22:18.46 | Renze | standing under water... having a shower :D |
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| 22:18.49 | Techdeck | /dev/urandom and /dev/random |
| 22:18.53 | Techdeck | just in case you were wondering |
| 22:18.55 | Techdeck | thanks a lot :D |
| 22:19.04 | itsucks | hi |
| 22:19.09 | PhilRod | hi itsucks |
| 22:19.29 | itsucks | do you know a good console mode irc sw |
| 22:19.30 | itsucks | ? |
| 22:19.38 | Renze | irssi ? |
| 22:19.40 | PhilRod | Renze: you crazy kiwis :-) |
| 22:19.45 | Renze | weechat ? |
| 22:19.53 | Renze | PhilRod: very crazy :D |
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| 22:20.05 | itsucks | for lx |
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| 22:20.19 | Renze | lx? |
| 22:20.25 | method| | how can i get k3b to allow me to burn a cd without running it as root? |
| 22:20.26 | Renze | is that txtspk for linux? |
| 22:21.17 | PhilRod | method|: it probably has some wrapper script that sets it setuid root, or somesuch. Did you RTFM? |
| 22:21.45 | method| | thought it would be quicker to ask here :P |
| 22:21.49 | Renze | method|: make sure you're in the right group, and all the commandline apps have the correct permissions... k3bsetup usually does that for you |
| 22:22.00 | Sho_ | .oO (time to write an x11-to-aalib wrapper so Konversation can claim to be a CLI app) |
| 22:22.05 | itsucks | what is the command to burn from console ? |
| 22:22.17 | itsucks | with cdrtools |
| 22:22.21 | method| | Renze: yeah k3bsetup works on every distro i've tried except kubuntu |
| 22:22.23 | mezoko | How can I get gtk stuff to load when I start kde? |
| 22:22.23 | Renze | itsucks: cdrecord ? cdrdao ? |
| 22:22.26 | Sho_ | itsucks: Ask in #linux |
| 22:22.31 | PhilRod | ~autostart |
| 22:22.34 | apt | To start a program or set an environment variable at KDE login, see: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2560273 |
| 22:22.34 | Renze | method|: ick |
| 22:22.34 | mezoko | I always have to run gnome-theme-manager for the fonts and stuff to look good |
| 22:22.39 | method| | Renze: exactly :( |
| 22:22.50 | itsucks | cdrec |
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| 22:23.20 | mezoko | PhilRod: yeah but do you know a program that might be able to load the gtk stuff without the setting box? |
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| 22:23.38 | itsucks | renze -w |
| 22:23.52 | Renze | unknown option: -w |
| 22:23.57 | PhilRod | heh |
| 22:24.17 | itsucks | -w : write it |
| 22:24.20 | PhilRod | mezoko: dunno what you mean, sorry - what setting box? I guess you'll have to ask in #gtk/#gnome |
| 22:24.40 | mezoko | PhilRod: the fonts look shitty and stuff in firefox until I run gnome-theme-manager |
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| 22:24.51 | mezoko | but the theme-manager is a tool to pick which gtk theme to use |
| 22:25.00 | Renze | mezoko: they look fine for me, and I don't even have gnome installed :D |
| 22:25.09 | Kurt | is there any known way to add the "Approved" header in KNode to enable one to post to alt.sysadmin.recovery? |
| 22:25.43 | PhilRod | mezoko: sounds like you'll have to ask in #gtk for that bit, unless I'm misunderstanding something |
| 22:26.12 | mezoko | ok |
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| 22:27.08 | PhilRod | ok, that *has* to be a dodgy google translation |
| 22:27.24 | Renze | yeah, it makes no sense to me either |
| 22:27.36 | itsucks | textto -t:what is the command to burn from console ? -t renze |
| 22:27.45 | PhilRod | itsucks: ask in #linux |
| 22:27.49 | Renze | itsucks: no idea... I always use k3b |
| 22:27.52 | itsucks | hai |
| 22:27.57 | PhilRod | or #yourdistro |
| 22:28.00 | Renze | itsucks: this is #kde, not ##linuxhelp |
| 22:28.00 | itsucks | ah domo |
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| 22:28.33 | PhilRod | shower, brb |
| 22:29.21 | itsucks | textto -t:wuf? -t renze |
| 22:29.45 | Renze | itsucks: can you please speak in understandable english, I don't understand you |
| 22:29.58 | itsucks | where are you from ? |
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| 22:30.08 | Renze | New Zealand |
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| 22:31.00 | itsucks | ogaika shimzu |
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| 22:33.28 | itsucks | textto -t:do you know a good kde translation tool ? -t renze && -tnmw all |
| 22:33.46 | Renze | no, and that textto: bullshit is starting to get annoying |
| 22:34.07 | Sho_ | Renze: He's probably using a sucky IRC client that adds that crap which can only be understood by itself |
| 22:34.13 | Sho_ | Renze: Think Microsoft Comic Chat ... |
| 22:34.17 | Renze | yuck |
| 22:34.41 | Renze | I'd rather not think about that |
| 22:35.44 | itsucks | me/: lol sho was right :),sorry |
| 22:35.54 | itsucks | do you know a good kde translation tool ? |
| 22:35.59 | Renze | no |
| 22:36.08 | Renze | I only speak one language |
| 22:36.10 | itsucks | is it ok now ? |
| 22:36.32 | itsucks | the output ? |
| 22:36.48 | Renze | so far |
| 22:37.20 | itsucks | ok all is ok now |
| 22:37.39 | itsucks | and textto is not bullshit |
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| 22:37.56 | itsucks | you have to apologize |
| 22:38.14 | Renze | no I don't |
| 22:38.56 | itsucks | but sho,how did you know it ? |
| 22:39.07 | Sho_ | itsucks: I develop IRC clients |
| 22:39.13 | itsucks | ah |
| 22:39.22 | itsucks | you are very smart :),nice to meet u |
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| 22:40.38 | Renze | I haven't written an IRC client in a while... |
| 22:42.28 | itsucks | do you know a lil bit scripting ? |
| 22:42.53 | Renze | I know a lot of scripting |
| 22:43.15 | itsucks | sho |
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| 22:45.44 | Sho_ | itsucks: yes |
| 22:46.26 | itsucks | renze,you don't like textto ,and I am typing this with textto ,so I can't communciate with you :)renze |
| 22:46.35 | itsucks | ok sho |
| 22:46.43 | itsucks | I want to do something with konqueror |
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| 22:48.03 | itsucks | can you help me ? |
| 22:48.59 | Sho_ | itsucks: What do you want to do? |
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| 22:50.07 | itsucks | I want to connect to www.mywebsite101.com(fake one) each second |
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| 22:50.37 | itsucks | and I don't want konqueror to display it |
| 22:50.44 | itsucks | anyway |
| 22:50.48 | itsucks | konqui can display it |
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| 22:51.00 | itsucks | I want to know how to do this |
| 22:51.05 | thiago | itsucks: why do you want to connect to a site in a web browser and not display it? |
| 22:51.30 | itsucks | increase website counter without efforts :) |
| 22:51.50 | Sho_ | itsucks: watch -n1 "dcop `dcop konq* | head -1` konqueror-mainwindow#1 openURL <url>" |
| 22:52.04 | Sho_ | or something like that |
| 22:52.25 | Sho_ | (seems kinda bad for the website, though ..) |
| 22:52.37 | thiago | itsucks: you don't need Konqueror for that |
| 22:52.45 | itsucks | ah |
| 22:52.50 | thiago | it's like killing a fly with a cannon |
| 22:52.50 | itsucks | maybe lynx ? |
| 22:53.04 | itsucks | lynx or w3m ? |
| 22:53.36 | thiago | lynx, wget or telnet |
| 22:53.36 | thiago | nc |
| 22:53.39 | smileaf | quick little script'd do that also :) |
| 22:53.59 | itsucks | so for each second do a "konqueror www.mywebsite.com" |
| 22:54.22 | itsucks | or, each second do a "lynx www.mywebsite.com" |
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| 22:54.50 | thiago | you know that lynx doesn't load images |
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| 22:54.56 | itsucks | yes no matter |
| 22:55.04 | itsucks | I only want the counter to increase |
| 22:55.17 | itsucks | with a specified range |
| 22:55.20 | itsucks | 1 sec for example |
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| 22:56.36 | Techdeck | thiago, http://www.techdeck.org/vmware.jpg |
| 22:56.38 | Techdeck | any ideas about this one? |
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| 22:56.57 | Techdeck | thiago, btw, do you still have that jpg problem? |
| 22:57.10 | thiago | Techdeck: I haven't upgraded yet, so yes, the problem persists. |
| 22:57.21 | islam_ | "None equals Him." http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf |
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| 22:57.25 | Techdeck | thiago, did you install kdegraphics? |
| 22:57.44 | Techdeck | because it didn't get installed for me and i suspect this is why it's not working |
| 22:57.46 | thiago | Techdeck: Konsole has a helper program called kgrantpty that must be setuid root. |
| 22:57.53 | thiago | Techdeck: check that it is so. |
| 22:57.59 | Techdeck | uno momento |
| 22:57.59 | thiago | yes, kdegraphics is installed |
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| 22:58.51 | Techdeck | thiago, it's '-rwsr-xr-x' |
| 22:59.02 | thiago | looks ok |
| 22:59.12 | thiago | are you using BSD-style PTYs? Or Unix98? |
| 22:59.27 | Techdeck | how do I check? |
| 23:00.22 | thiago | ls /dev/pts/ |
| 23:00.25 | thiago | does that exist? |
| 23:00.31 | itsucks | do you know a console mode voice over net sw ? |
| 23:00.32 | Techdeck | it exists but its empty |
| 23:00.53 | thiago | Techdeck: is /dev/ptmx read-writeable to your user? |
| 23:01.05 | Kurt | am I the only one who has noticed that Peyton Manning seems a lot more comfortable outside of the pocket than in years past? |
| 23:01.07 | Techdeck | nope thiago |
| 23:01.09 | Techdeck | let me set it |
| 23:01.36 | Techdeck | thiago, fixed and same error |
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| 23:01.55 | thiago | Techdeck: it should be 666 root.tty |
| 23:02.01 | Techdeck | oh |
| 23:02.01 | thiago | character (5,2) |
| 23:02.08 | x_link | I made my K Menu transparent, but it's hard to see th eletter when it's black. So I changed it to white, but then ALL the letters in all menu's got white. In the folder etc. Then I can't see the letters is the folers. =( |
| 23:02.22 | x_link | Can I fix this somehow ? |
| 23:03.04 | Techdeck | thiago, you're a genius, it's fixed, thanks a lot :) |
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| 23:03.48 | itsucks | a good console mode voice over net ? |
| 23:05.32 | x_link | Hi thiago ! |
| 23:05.33 | thiago | itsucks: no KDE program that fits that description |
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| 23:05.40 | thiago | x_link: hey |
| 23:05.58 | itsucks | a good kde voice over net ? |
| 23:06.14 | thiago | itsucks: kphone, kcall |
| 23:06.50 | itsucks | does it work with ip ? |
| 23:06.58 | itsucks | what Iwant to do is... |
| 23:07.14 | thiago | yes |
| 23:07.30 | itsucks | kphonesoftware <user_ip> |
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| 23:12.27 | i_is_cat | so with kphone i can call a landline telephone with my computer? |
| 23:12.35 | thiago | i_is_cat: no |
| 23:12.40 | i_is_cat | didnt think so |
| 23:12.42 | itsucks | kphonesoftware <user_ip> |
| 23:12.50 | itsucks | or not |
| 23:13.06 | thiago | i_is_cat: to call a landline or mobile telephone, you need to pay. KPhone has no interconnection service. |
| 23:13.13 | thiago | you'll need to use some other service like Skype |
| 23:13.15 | i_is_cat | why do i need to pay? |
| 23:13.34 | Kurt | fucking hell...a 5-card draw and I get a straight! |
| 23:13.43 | i_is_cat | i dont like paying |
| 23:13.52 | i_is_cat | i paid $1.02 for linux xp |
| 23:13.54 | i_is_cat | and it was a rip off |
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| 23:14.12 | itsucks | why do you pay |
| 23:14.18 | itsucks | just download |
| 23:14.42 | itsucks | so tell me |
| 23:14.45 | itsucks | can kphone do it |
| 23:14.50 | itsucks | kphone ip |
| 23:14.51 | thiago | i_is_cat: when was the last time you walked up to your phone company and got a phone that made calls for free? |
| 23:15.37 | i_is_cat | i am not asking the phone company to make calls |
| 23:15.48 | i_is_cat | i am asking them to f off and let me call people using their service |
| 23:15.54 | i_is_cat | i think it should be illegal what they're doing |
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| 23:16.03 | thiago | don't be absurd |
| 23:16.08 | i_is_cat | and if i want to i should be able to call anyone i want from my computer |
| 23:16.11 | thiago | it works like this: |
| 23:16.15 | thiago | they own the network |
| 23:16.23 | thiago | if you want to use their network, you must pay. |
| 23:16.35 | thiago | it costs something like $0.01/minute |
| 23:16.40 | i_is_cat | its not my fault that the person i wish to contact is using their network |
| 23:16.42 | itsucks | hey |
| 23:16.49 | i_is_cat | i do not wish to use it |
| 23:16.50 | jal | in France, we've got ip phone provided by the isp |
| 23:16.53 | thiago | i_is_cat: true. Then have that person move to another network. |
| 23:16.58 | i_is_cat | they shouldnt force me to pay for it |
| 23:17.00 | i_is_cat | no |
| 23:17.01 | jal | free for national call |
| 23:17.11 | i_is_cat | thats like saying if you're with bell you cant call vonage |
| 23:17.13 | thiago | jal: that's just a regular phone that is modulated on the ADSL, instead of the low frequencies. |
| 23:17.19 | i_is_cat | because its a different network |
| 23:17.19 | i_is_cat | bs |
| 23:17.20 | thiago | jal: transmissions don't go via Internet. |
| 23:17.34 | i_is_cat | they get enough money from their customers |
| 23:17.34 | jal | it's SIP from my PoV |
| 23:17.38 | thiago | i_is_cat: again, don't be stupid. |
| 23:17.47 | i_is_cat | if i wish to speak with one of their customers using my own service |
| 23:17.51 | thiago | i_is_cat: when network A terminates a call on network B, A pays B. |
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| 23:17.54 | i_is_cat | why should i have to pay the company? |
| 23:18.01 | i_is_cat | they person i want to make the call to is already paying |
| 23:18.04 | i_is_cat | it is a scam |
| 23:18.10 | thiago | i_is_cat: huh? |
| 23:18.18 | i_is_cat | they == the |
| 23:18.19 | thiago | how is the callee paying? The callee doesn't pay to receive calls. |
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| 23:18.37 | i_is_cat | the callee pays a regular monthly bill |
| 23:18.39 | i_is_cat | for having the line |
| 23:18.50 | thiago | yes, that's the maintenance. |
| 23:18.50 | i_is_cat | for having the ability to make or receive calls |
| 23:18.52 | thiago | yes. |
| 23:18.57 | i_is_cat | so why should i have to pay? |
| 23:19.01 | thiago | you have your line available to you 24/7 or almost. |
| 23:19.02 | i_is_cat | i dont wanna use their network |
| 23:19.09 | i_is_cat | its not MY fault that the person i want to talk to uses it |
| 23:19.14 | i_is_cat | i shouldnt be forced to pay |
| 23:19.17 | i_is_cat | its not fair |
| 23:19.17 | thiago | ah, ok. So you want everyone to pay MORE for their monthly subscriptions so that calls are free? |
| 23:19.32 | i_is_cat | everyones paying more anyways you cant use that as an excuse |
| 23:19.38 | thiago | no |
| 23:19.42 | i_is_cat | sure there would probably be a lot of money needed to switch the systems over |
| 23:19.44 | thiago | let me get two things straight: |
| 23:19.45 | itsucks | please |
| 23:19.47 | i_is_cat | so that what i want to do would work |
| 23:19.49 | thiago | 1) this is off-topic. Stop. |
| 23:19.49 | itsucks | help me |
| 23:19.58 | i_is_cat | but thats not the poine |
| 23:20.00 | i_is_cat | the point is |
| 23:20.03 | thiago | 2) you understand NOTHING of the Telecommunications industry. When you do, we can discuss. |
| 23:20.09 | i_is_cat | its extortion |
| 23:20.18 | thiago | stop. Off-topic, remember? |
| 23:20.25 | i_is_cat | lol i worked for at&t wireless |
| 23:20.26 | i_is_cat | ;) |
| 23:20.27 | i_is_cat | so ya |
| 23:20.28 | i_is_cat | i know |
| 23:20.31 | i_is_cat | its just bs |
| 23:20.33 | i_is_cat | it truly is |
| 23:20.37 | i_is_cat | you can think what you want |
| 23:20.39 | i_is_cat | but it is bs |
| 23:20.44 | thiago | i_is_cat: go ask your legislative representative to pass a bill asking for changes. |
| 23:20.52 | thiago | that's the best that you can do. |
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| 23:20.57 | thiago | I don't want to hear your whining. |
| 23:21.21 | i_is_cat | its not whining it never was whining i said i wish they did something they wish to do and you disagreed |
| 23:21.27 | i_is_cat | you seem to be the whiner |
| 23:21.48 | thiago | I'm not the one saying it's extortion or that it's BS. But I've moved on. |
| 23:21.50 | smileaf | lol |
| 23:21.52 | thiago | itsucks: what is your problem again? |
| 23:22.05 | i_is_cat | well it is |
| 23:22.09 | i_is_cat | like it or not |
| 23:22.16 | thiago | i_is_cat: hello? Moved on... |
| 23:22.23 | i_is_cat | good for you |
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| 23:22.26 | i_is_cat | then ignore it |
| 23:22.30 | itsucks | I want to use kphone from konsoel |
| 23:22.34 | i_is_cat | you have to be the one with the last comment dont you? |
| 23:22.42 | i_is_cat | because it makes you feel big? |
| 23:22.44 | i_is_cat | probably |
| 23:22.52 | smileaf | i_is_cat: one could say the same about you ;) |
| 23:22.57 | thiago | itsucks: and if you run it, what happens? |
| 23:23.00 | i_is_cat | they certainly could |
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| 23:23.21 | smileaf | i_is_cat: so don't be a hipocrite k? :) |
| 23:23.51 | i_is_cat | explain to me how i am being one |
| 23:23.55 | i_is_cat | i dont see it |
| 23:24.00 | thiago | no, don't explain it |
| 23:24.03 | thiago | not in #kde |
| 23:24.09 | thiago | if you guys want to do that, go somewhere else. |
| 23:24.10 | smileaf | I don't think I have to.. hehe |
| 23:24.26 | itsucks | from konsole |
| 23:24.29 | i_is_cat | meh |
| 23:25.09 | itsucks | actually I want to talk to the user once I have entered the software userip command |
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| 23:25.25 | thiago | itsucks: right. What happened when you tried? |
| 23:25.31 | itsucks | nothing |
| 23:25.37 | itsucks | I dont get tit |
| 23:25.41 | thiago | did kphone start up? |
| 23:25.48 | itsucks | I dont get it |
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| 23:29.58 | itsucks | ok |
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| 23:50.42 | Techdeck | thiago, when I start kde as a normal user it doesn't work (it crashes while loading peripherals), then I startx as root (with kde), it works, and then I can start kde with the user, what is causing this? |
| 23:51.08 | thiago | Techdeck: I don't know. I'd have to find out what the crash is. |
| 23:51.20 | Techdeck | I did startx &> log |
| 23:51.22 | Techdeck | will the log help you? |
| 23:52.02 | thiago | it might |
| 23:52.09 | Techdeck | uno momento |
| 23:53.17 | Techdeck | http://www.Techdeck.org/kde.log |
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| 23:56.16 | Techdeck | thiago any ideas? |
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| 23:56.53 | thiago | _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix must be set to root |
| 23:56.59 | thiago | yep, it's the problem of the ICE dir |
| 23:57.13 | Techdeck | what needs to set it? |
| 23:57.23 | thiago | KDE will fail to start if the ICE dir doesn't belong to root |
| 23:57.34 | Techdeck | why wouldn't it belong to root? |
| 23:57.34 | thiago | when root logs in, it resets the permissions |
| 23:57.44 | Techdeck | but why isn't it like this defaultly? |
| 23:57.51 | thiago | it probably doesn't exist. So your user can't create it with the correct permissions. |
| 23:58.37 | Techdeck | yup |
| 23:58.40 | Techdeck | you were right |
| 23:58.42 | Techdeck | thanks man :D |
