| 00:00.31 | goldenear | I'm updating :) |
| 00:01.15 | yoruichi | good luck ;-) |
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| 00:15.15 | blanky | hey guys, in the print dialog, when it says print range, in the 'pages' thing, if you want to print pages 4 to 8 you type "4-8" ? |
| 00:17.02 | quaru | yeah |
| 00:17.07 | blanky | thanks quaru |
| 00:17.13 | Renze | blanky: focus the text entry for Range, then press Shift-F1 |
| 00:17.13 | quaru | np |
| 00:17.22 | blanky | Renze, okay... |
| 00:17.25 | Renze | it will show you what you can put in there |
| 00:17.32 | blanky | Renze, okay thanks! |
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| 00:18.06 | goldenear | yoruichi: it indeed works fine with amarok 1.4 :) |
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| 00:18.23 | yoruichi | goldenear: nice |
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| 00:20.29 | ryanakca | whats the kde equivalent of gnome-session? |
| 00:20.54 | Renze | ksmserver |
| 00:21.10 | ryanakca | ty |
| 00:21.52 | Renze | but then I haven't used Gnome since 1.x and can't remember what gnome-session does exactly :) |
| 00:22.24 | ryanakca | lol |
| 00:22.27 | yoruichi | ahahah |
| 00:22.37 | ryanakca | I'm trying to set up xgl... |
| 00:22.54 | Renze | if you want the command that starts kde, it is "startkde" |
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| 00:36.43 | Ker_lap | still not figured out what the problem is.. will leave it now |
| 00:36.47 | Ker_lap | gnight |
| 00:39.20 | goldenear | ryanakca: yes indeed, the equivalent of "gnome-session" is "startkde" |
| 00:39.48 | goldenear | ryanakca: xgl doesn't seem to work properly with KDE... |
| 00:40.16 | troy | goldenear: what distro? |
| 00:40.40 | goldenear | AFAIK, kde-window-decorator doesn't work well yet. |
| 00:40.52 | goldenear | troy: kubuntu dapper |
| 00:41.31 | goldenear | kubuntu edgy should support xgl (at least it will try to) |
| 00:41.32 | troy | goldenear: I can't get it to work here either on dapper - but I've heard success with it and kde on suse and gentoo, so I don't think it's kde's fault... |
| 00:42.10 | goldenear | the issue is with kde-window-decorator |
| 00:42.43 | goldenear | may be there is a version working on some distro, but I could not yet find one for kubuntu |
| 00:43.46 | goldenear | does anybody here use kpowersave ? |
| 00:44.20 | troy | goldenear: cross your fingers when the 3.5.3 packages hit dapper that it'll work... otherwise you'll probably have to wait for edgy :) I'm looking forward to edgy anyway for 32bit+64bit in the same directory tree support |
| 00:45.28 | goldenear | I guess we'll have to wait for edgy :/ |
| 00:45.58 | goldenear | and may be edgy+1 (with kde 4) for complete xgl support |
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| 00:48.05 | troy | goldenear: I'd like to believe kde4 is less than a year away, but as with kde2, things may take a lot longer than initially expected... |
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| 00:48.40 | Roey | troy: hey, long time no see. |
| 00:48.50 | troy | Roey: indeed - how's life treating you? |
| 00:49.14 | Roey | troy: the weather's fine, but the traffic's nervous. |
| 00:49.28 | Roey | troy: I've moved into my own apartment |
| 00:49.39 | troy | cool - still studying? |
| 00:49.47 | Roey | (after finishing college and working for the past few years as an information security person) |
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| 00:49.59 | Roey | troy: I hack government networks for fun and profit. |
| 00:50.04 | Roey | (legally) |
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| 00:50.19 | Roey | troy: that said, how's by you? |
| 00:50.21 | goldenear | I won't expect kde4 to be stable before early 2008 :) |
| 00:50.54 | Roey | goldenear: I still don't get if KDE4 will use DCOP. |
| 00:50.58 | troy | Roey: studying, working, pretty steady.... kind of in a lull between school and summer posting right now... |
| 00:51.15 | troy | Roey: DCOP has been superceded by D-BUS |
| 00:51.17 | Roey | and will the change from kde3->kde4 be as big as that from kde1->kde2 ? |
| 00:51.21 | Roey | troy: oh my god |
| 00:51.22 | Roey | nooo |
| 00:51.24 | Roey | :( |
| 00:51.25 | troy | Roey: pretty much... |
| 00:51.26 | Roey | ah well. |
| 00:51.33 | Roey | so we've all bowed backwards to gnome and red hat. |
| 00:51.36 | troy | Roey: the last of DCOP was removed from kdelibs today or yesterday... |
| 00:51.40 | Roey | oh wow. |
| 00:51.46 | troy | Roey: well, actually, D-BUS is based on dcop, so... |
| 00:51.57 | Roey | it does soe things differently, I understand.. |
| 00:52.13 | Roey | will I still be able to query applications for their supported exported functions ? |
| 00:52.41 | troy | I don't see why not, only you might get firefox in that list too now... |
| 00:52.41 | Roey | troy: and what's with this Registry-like heirarchy of DBUS? GNOME people seem to be into imitating the Registry everywhere they can. |
| 00:52.47 | Roey | Renze: what's ARexx? |
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| 00:53.27 | Renze | Roey: scripting language for the Amiga with some things in common with DCOP, i.e. applications had arexx ports and lists of exported functions |
| 00:53.36 | Roey | ah, nice. |
| 00:54.10 | Roey | I wonder if this means that the devs for all the GTK apps (gimp, xchat, gaim) will suddenly rush for dbus compliance. |
| 00:54.25 | Renze | probably not :) |
| 00:54.28 | Roey | I'd like to be able to control xchat's properties remotely, from the command line, over an SSH session. |
| 00:54.43 | troy | Roey: well, the registry is a mixed bag I guess - KConfig (the class) will support a registry-like storage plugin as well for kde4, although it'll have a more-sane default :) |
| 00:55.03 | Roey | lemme be a little more specific; |
| 00:55.28 | troy | but then, it'll also support LDAP storage via a plugin :) |
| 00:55.46 | Roey | I'd rather get away from a directed tree (that is, /a/b/c/d) as a way of representing my data :) |
| 00:56.02 | troy | Roey: dcop already does that though ... |
| 00:56.04 | Roey | troy: I wonder if this will affect KIOSlaves as seen from the user's POV |
| 00:56.10 | Roey | troy: I suppose. |
| 00:56.32 | Roey | troy: will we have a dbus://konqueror-10298/... |
| 00:56.32 | Roey | ? |
| 00:56.56 | troy | haven't seen any sign of something like that... |
| 00:56.56 | Roey | troy: and also, GNOME's VFS seems to force users to do triple-slashing: uri:///a/b/c/d |
| 00:57.01 | Roey | troy: ok |
| 00:57.20 | troy | probably could be written though as a kioslave :) |
| 00:58.16 | Roey | aye |
| 00:58.23 | Roey | troy: so where are you in the kdespace these days? |
| 00:58.50 | troy | umm, mostly I just lend a hand in various support channels when I have the time to spare... |
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| 00:59.08 | Roey | ahh |
| 00:59.10 | Roey | neato. |
| 00:59.48 | troy | Roey: using kubuntu on my amd64 system - first time back on linux in almost three years of using freebsd... sadly amd64 on freebsd is (or was) less than spectacular... |
| 01:00.29 | troy | but kubuntu is really slick, and my girlfriend is using it on her laptop after getting fed up with 5-month windows reload cycles... |
| 01:00.50 | Roey | heh! |
| 01:01.03 | Roey | troy: are you working in software development at all? |
| 01:01.08 | Roey | (professionally?) |
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| 01:01.54 | troy | Roey: well, privately... I wrote the CMS that powers my blog (as well as a few blogs of my friends)... some other python work for websites.... |
| 01:02.04 | Roey | oh, nice. |
| 01:02.08 | Roey | didn't know you're into Python |
| 01:02.25 | Roey | seeing as to how I would've seen you on #python :) |
| 01:02.42 | Roey | troy: did you base the CMS off an off-the-net one? |
| 01:03.15 | troy | Roey: entirely from scratch... see http://tblog.ath.cx/troy |
| 01:03.24 | Roey | ah |
| 01:03.29 | Roey | (btw, I have to step out) |
| 01:03.36 | Roey | ciao :) |
| 01:03.41 | troy | later |
| 01:08.41 | mjobin | how about command line dcop ? this thing is so cool, will they remove it from KDE4 ? |
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| 01:29.42 | Ayoze | hi all |
| 01:30.20 | Ayoze | does anybody know if is there any way to make konqueror dont change the url when it have, for example, a space? I mean, dont change %20 with ' ' |
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| 01:38.50 | thechris | ahh. bison is driving me crazy |
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| 02:01.49 | dave_mwi | hi all |
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| 02:02.53 | dave_mwi | out of curiosity, any of you use wireless network icons in your system tray....? I'm using one called KWireless...but just curious if there's anything else.... |
| 02:03.16 | Renze | knemo? |
| 02:05.09 | _sander | knetworkmanager if you're lucky :) |
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| 02:07.46 | dave_mwi | _sander: why lucky? |
| 02:07.59 | dave_mwi | Renze: heard of that, but couldn't get it installed... |
| 02:08.30 | Renze | I'm using it right now to monitor two network devices |
| 02:08.34 | dave_mwi | _sander: infact I think that's what started crashing my kpanel...had to unistall then reinstally KDE :) |
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| 02:09.00 | ferlinux | Someone knows how to run AutoCAD 2002 under Wine. My AutoCAD14 is running well |
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| 02:15.14 | chaks | hi all |
| 02:15.23 | chaks | how do i compile and install kdm alone from kdebase? |
| 02:16.05 | Lazydog | how can i stop the kde wallet from popping up everytime i log into a web site? |
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| 02:20.02 | CrazyClaudia | I need to put an entry in a system-wide Xmodmap file. Where does this file live on a kde+kdm based system? |
| 02:20.38 | CrazyClaudia | i've tried /etc/X11/Xmodmap, but this apparently doesn't work |
| 02:21.56 | CrazyClaudia | um... anyone? |
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| 02:23.15 | positivo | vc fala portugues? |
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| 02:46.20 | thechris | anyone know how to find out what a variable is in C++? |
| 02:47.12 | RadiantFire | what do you mean by variable |
| 02:47.24 | RadiantFire | a class are a built-in |
| 02:47.34 | thechris | i have a variable, yylval |
| 02:47.41 | thechris | it SHOULD be a struct. |
| 02:47.49 | chaks | anybody know how to install kde alone from kdebase? :( |
| 02:48.05 | RadiantFire | c++ has a function called typeof() |
| 02:48.09 | RadiantFire | that returns something |
| 02:48.13 | thechris | but i keep getting an error accessing member "entry" in a non-object yylval having type YYSTYPE |
| 02:48.15 | RadiantFire | I think a size_t |
| 02:48.20 | chaks | sorry kdm |
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| 02:52.52 | thechris | oh, it seems flex decided that i'd be better off with something else for my return types. no wonder things don't work... |
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| 03:36.46 | Gwyth | My Screen Saver list is completely empty. What should I check to find out why it is so, please? |
| 03:37.22 | flaccid | do you have kdeartwork installed? |
| 03:38.13 | Gwyth | flaccid, yes, 3 packages. |
| 03:38.28 | Gwyth | (regular, kde-classic, and screensaver-gl) |
| 03:40.09 | flaccid | what are the names of these packages |
| 03:40.17 | flaccid | and what version of kde is this |
| 03:40.29 | Gwyth | sec. |
| 03:43.43 | Gwyth | flaccid, the packages are: kdeartwork-3.5.2-1.1.20060mdk, kdeartwork-kde-classic-3.5.2-1.1.20060mdk, and kdeartwork-screensaver-gl-3.5.2-1.1.20060mdk - all 3 installed. |
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| 03:45.10 | mdiehl | Hi all. |
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| 03:49.30 | flaccid | Gwyth: interesting, what distro? |
| 03:49.50 | Renze | looks like mandriva to me |
| 03:49.50 | Gwyth | flaccid: Mandriva |
| 03:51.05 | flaccid | hmm any ideas Renze? |
| 03:51.11 | Renze | Gwyth: try running kbuildsycoca and checking your list of screensavers again |
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| 03:51.18 | flaccid | it is the artwork package that has all the screensavers hey |
| 03:51.33 | Renze | yep |
| 03:51.46 | Gwyth | okay. |
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| 03:53.05 | flaccid | what is kbuildsyscoca/ksycoca? |
| 03:53.21 | Gwyth | Renze, empty anyway... |
| 03:53.41 | Renze | kbuildsycoca updates the system configuration cache for the user |
| 03:53.53 | Gwyth | Renze, Did I need to run it with any parameters? or as a root? or something else special? |
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| 03:54.01 | Renze | Gwyth: I don't know what the packages are called for Mandriva, but are you sure there isn't a package missing? |
| 03:54.20 | Renze | it's run as user, because the cache is for the user |
| 03:54.35 | Gwyth | Renze, let me see again... |
| 03:54.46 | Renze | you could try kbuildsycoca --noincremental, which will force a complete rebuild of the cache |
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| 03:57.54 | Gwyth | Renze, noatun, a dummy graphics package, language packages, and the devel packages are the only stuff not installed... everything else (probably close to 300 packages) is installed... |
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| 03:58.20 | Renze | Gwyth: you could try kbuildsycoca --noincremental, which will force a complete rebuild of the cache |
| 03:58.34 | Gwyth | Sorry, Renze, I did try it... it didn't change anything. |
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| 03:59.56 | Renze | you could always try your distro channel |
| 04:00.19 | Gwyth | will do. |
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| 04:04.39 | mhall | Gwyth: did you log out and in |
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| 04:05.47 | a_thing | Anyone else on FC5 have every KDE app segfault after closing?? |
| 04:06.36 | Gwyth | mhall: yes, I did... but not after kbuildsycoca. Let me do it again, see what happens. |
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| 04:09.08 | mdiehl | What does it mean when it says that kstartupconfig could not start? |
| 04:10.07 | Gwyth | mhall: no, relogging didn't help. Is that cache thing in .kde or somewhere else? I wonder whether I can delete that directory... |
| 04:11.20 | mhall | Gwyth: hmm then maybe KDE is not the problem |
| 04:11.21 | smileaf | Gwyth: you delete that and you lose _all_ your settings. |
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| 04:11.39 | smileaf | Gwyth: all kde settings of course. |
| 04:12.12 | Gwyth | mhall: what do you think might be the problem? |
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| 04:13.31 | mhall | Gwyth: good question |
| 04:13.54 | mhall | I switched to an SATA-II drive today. 80 MB/sec performance on my informal tests. |
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| 04:15.06 | Gwyth | mhall: here is the new piece of info: even though the list of screensavers is empty, a screensaver started working when I wasn't touching the laptop. |
| 04:15.30 | Gwyth | mhall, the one I had as my last default from the previous installation. |
| 04:15.55 | mdiehl | I recently upgraded my system and now kde is broken. Anyone here able to help me figure this out? |
| 04:16.24 | Gwyth | mhall, so, maybe it is .kde after all? (since all other partitions were wiped out during the reinstall)... I'll look at it tomorrow... thanks for helping anyway. |
| 04:16.29 | mhall | Gwyth: hmm if you know the name of it |
| 04:16.37 | Gwyth | mhall: then what? |
| 04:16.38 | mhall | Gwyth: can you grep for that in the conf files |
| 04:16.47 | mhall | Gwyth: fgrep -ir text ~/.kde |
| 04:16.55 | Gwyth | okay... |
| 04:17.03 | mhall | Gwyth: that's the ultimate kludge i use for fixing any- and everything |
| 04:17.21 | Gwyth | lol... okay... |
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| 04:18.46 | Gwyth | mhall: I took a note of the command, will find the name of the saver on the other computer tomorrow, and will look into it again. Thanks for advising. |
| 04:18.48 | mhall | RadiantFire: for a minute there i thought you were a scripting tool |
| 04:18.58 | RadiantFire | oh |
| 04:18.59 | RadiantFire | sorry |
| 04:19.03 | RadiantFire | my wireless cut out on me |
| 04:19.20 | mhall | RadiantFire: not what i meant, i meant with the pipes on your nick :P |
| 04:19.50 | RadiantFire | perhaps I should change that |
| 04:20.37 | mhall | RadiantFire: nah i was just givin ya a hard time |
| 04:20.52 | mhall | RadiantFire: cause i haven't been on irc in a while and am currently a bit bored |
| 04:21.08 | RadiantFire | thats fun |
| 04:21.14 | RadiantFire | nor have I |
| 04:21.29 | RadiantFire | home for the summer, getting to tinker :) |
| 04:23.40 | smileaf | boredom is bad. |
| 04:23.47 | smileaf | lurking is good ;) |
| 04:23.52 | RadiantFire | I'm keeping myself occupied |
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| 04:24.04 | RadiantFire | attempting to write my first QT program |
| 04:25.01 | smileaf | RadiantFire: what's it going to do? |
| 04:26.47 | RadiantFire | its going to play flashcards |
| 04:26.52 | RadiantFire | er, show flashcards |
| 04:27.24 | smileaf | helpful :) |
| 04:27.41 | RadiantFire | I suppose |
| 04:27.55 | RadiantFire | I figure its not to complicated, and it will get me familiar with the system |
| 04:28.11 | smileaf | I've never used flash cards but for those that do it might be useful ;) |
| 04:28.13 | RadiantFire | all I've learned in school up until now is java, which I find horrible and evil |
| 04:28.39 | RadiantFire | well, my girlfriend is a french major, so vocabulary is useful to her, thats where I got the idea |
| 04:28.41 | smileaf | I like java :/ |
| 04:29.11 | RadiantFire | JPanel.repaint() == pure evil |
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| 04:29.31 | smileaf | yoruichi: you done disconnecting yet? |
| 04:29.57 | smileaf | RadiantFire: never really ran into any real issues where I really needed to use that. |
| 04:30.09 | RadiantFire | oh |
| 04:30.14 | RadiantFire | for my final project in a class |
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| 04:30.34 | RadiantFire | me and my partner built the whole thing using repaint |
| 04:30.38 | RadiantFire | and it was supposed to be real time |
| 04:30.50 | RadiantFire | then we realized the repaint calls would stack, and nothing would happen until the end |
| 04:31.02 | smileaf | lol |
| 04:31.06 | RadiantFire | so had to hack paintImmediately into it |
| 04:31.15 | RadiantFire | it was a nifty program |
| 04:31.16 | RadiantFire | 3-d maze |
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| 04:31.23 | RadiantFire | although we didn't have time to visualize it in 3-D |
| 04:31.31 | RadiantFire | just aerial view of 1 floor at a time |
| 04:31.31 | smileaf | my college sucked.. our final was to demo a single swing componet. |
| 04:31.58 | RadiantFire | mmm, apparently our professor was instructed to put in more GUI programming this semester |
| 04:32.07 | smileaf | which everyone got to do... I was forced to make a gui blackjack game |
| 04:32.25 | RadiantFire | fun times |
| 04:32.32 | smileaf | oh yah... |
| 04:32.43 | RadiantFire | out of curiosity, did your deal stand on hard or soft cap? |
| 04:32.47 | RadiantFire | dealer* |
| 04:32.51 | smileaf | class was so easy they eventually started changing the requirements for mine :( |
| 04:33.02 | smileaf | I don't know what you mean. |
| 04:33.29 | smileaf | if his hand was under 17 he hit. |
| 04:33.30 | RadiantFire | soft cap is when you have ace as 11 + like an 8 |
| 04:33.36 | RadiantFire | that is a soft cap |
| 04:33.41 | RadiantFire | if the dealer hits again |
| 04:33.50 | smileaf | aces were 11 or 1 depending on the total count. |
| 04:33.53 | RadiantFire | because the 11 drops to 1 if he goes over |
| 04:34.06 | RadiantFire | its a hard cap if he stops |
| 04:34.13 | smileaf | oh |
| 04:34.40 | smileaf | I just made him tough to beat just to make the teacher loose |
| 04:34.46 | smileaf | lose* |
| 04:34.53 | RadiantFire | lol, thats fun |
| 04:35.29 | smileaf | I even used the card images from kdegames ;) |
| 04:35.41 | RadiantFire | awww |
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| 04:36.46 | smileaf | I lost that project sadly :( |
| 04:36.57 | RadiantFire | I enjoy mine |
| 04:37.01 | RadiantFire | it provides me with amusement |
| 04:37.09 | smileaf | lol |
| 04:37.10 | RadiantFire | its more entertaining to watch it solve itself than to try and solve it |
| 04:37.25 | RadiantFire | because its a 10x10x10 cube, and you can only see 1 floor at a time |
| 04:37.38 | RadiantFire | my RA tried once, spent 1/2 an hour then gave up |
| 04:37.39 | smileaf | I almost wish I went to a university. |
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| 04:39.07 | RadiantFire | why didn't you? |
| 04:39.27 | smileaf | lack of funds and I wasn't too sure I wanted to do computers for a career |
| 04:40.05 | RadiantFire | I enjoy it very much, and I see all sorts of things I never had a chance to see in high school |
| 04:40.20 | smileaf | community colleges tho... are for those that cannot make it at universities. |
| 04:40.30 | RadiantFire | yeah |
| 04:40.39 | RadiantFire | I had one up the road from my high school |
| 04:40.43 | RadiantFire | they were entertaining |
| 04:40.50 | RadiantFire | the people that went there |
| 04:40.51 | smileaf | I had 1 teacher I corrected every single day I attended x.x |
| 04:41.14 | RadiantFire | thats no fun |
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| 04:41.31 | smileaf | he canceled class one day :) |
| 04:42.09 | smileaf | some teachers knew their stuff... but the rest... they really need to be fired. |
| 04:42.47 | RadiantFire | I had a professor like that this semester |
| 04:42.51 | RadiantFire | she failed at life |
| 04:42.56 | smileaf | XD |
| 04:43.00 | RadiantFire | she would put up the stupidest examples ever |
| 04:43.39 | smileaf | mine just failed at the simple stuff.. like variable scope in javascript. |
| 04:43.48 | RadiantFire | she would try to proove things that were clearly unproovable, and I would ask her at the beginning what she was doing, and the response was, "I just want you to see that this can't be done." despite how obvious it was |
| 04:44.46 | smileaf | in 1 class we spent 5 days on public and private variables in java because ONE student just didn't get it. |
| 04:45.14 | RadiantFire | thats when you move on, and refer said loser to the Office hours box on the syllabus |
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| 04:45.49 | smileaf | I understand that because of that stupid no child left behind act if they fail to get something in class they can lose their jobs.. but please make them come in outside of class for tutoring. |
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| 04:46.29 | RadiantFire | i have a feeling NO Child Left Behind == bad, I'm not sure though |
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| 04:46.38 | RadiantFire | then again, I went to a good high school |
| 04:47.13 | smileaf | one sub one time knew nothing about what he was suppose to be teaching.. it was a class about various Operating systems. |
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| 04:48.17 | RadiantFire | and what did you learn about in said class instead? |
| 04:48.20 | smileaf | we did DOS and just started Linux when the main teacher had her baby... so he got in and moved on to windows and spent the rest of the time there.. 1 day in Novell and we got to go to the Mac lab for the very last day where he didn't do anything but watch us. |
| 04:49.51 | RadiantFire | my high school cs teacher had a 486 running FreeBSD 4.2 I think |
| 04:49.57 | RadiantFire | we got to tinker on it to learn all the unix shell commands |
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| 04:50.48 | smileaf | my high school the most computer classes we had available where keyboarding and learning the various MS Office programs |
| 04:51.19 | smileaf | IMO High school was 4 wasted years of my life. |
| 04:51.56 | RadiantFire | keyboarding is useful though |
| 04:52.06 | RadiantFire | I found that a worthwhile part of high school |
| 04:52.08 | smileaf | not when you could already get up to 70wpm |
| 04:52.15 | RadiantFire | oh, see I could't type |
| 04:52.26 | RadiantFire | now I can consistently get around like 60-70 |
| 04:52.34 | RadiantFire | I never learned the numbers though which makes me sad |
| 04:52.48 | RadiantFire | spending 4 weeks on adding binary numbers though was not so cool |
| 04:52.49 | smileaf | when I used dvorak every day I could get 85-90 |
| 04:53.17 | smileaf | now I probably get around 40-60 on both layouts |
| 04:58.01 | smileaf | Ok time for bed.. nite, nice talking to you RadiantFire |
| 04:58.24 | RadiantFire | nice talking to you 2 |
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| 05:09.28 | dave_mwi | hi - anyone using kdiff3 and always getting the crash when closing by the X in the upper right hand corner...?? |
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| 05:30.33 | mhall | Has anybody done anything to the font rendering engine? It's beautiful. |
| 05:30.44 | mhall | And fast. |
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| 05:39.15 | Q-collective | mhall: for what version? |
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| 05:47.39 | mhall | Q-collective: KDE: 3.5.2 |
| 05:47.53 | mhall | Q-collective: but i suspect it's a dependent library so perhaps this number doesn't help |
| 05:48.33 | mhall | Q-collective: the improvement is not connected to the 3.5.2 number because 3.5.2 did not have it a few weeks ago before latest dist upgrade of debian |
| 05:48.40 | mobtek | mhall: new Xorg stuff? |
| 05:49.00 | Q-collective | hmm |
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| 05:50.45 | mhall | mobtek: ya i dunno, konsole seems a bit friendlier about what fonts it lets you use |
| 05:50.54 | mhall | mobtek: but the improvements go beyond just konsole though |
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| 06:00.35 | suunzii | hello |
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| 06:02.29 | solid_liq | anyone know where the i18n info for konqueror is stored? |
| 06:04.57 | suunzii | i've a short question - how can i angle it, that krusader is the standard-filebrowser instead of konqueror - for webbrowsing i use ff |
| 06:05.30 | suunzii | yes, google is my friend, but there's nothing :( |
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| 06:10.41 | suunzii | no idea? |
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| 06:13.15 | rohan | http://desimp3.org/download/ ---> can someone check if konqui cannot block ads on this site ? its not working here |
| 06:13.30 | rohan | like, click on stuff like "Home" and all |
| 06:14.34 | Renze | I see no ads... they might already be in my filter |
| 06:14.50 | Renze | plenty of popup warnings, though |
| 06:14.58 | rohan | Renze: i am talking about popups, my bad :-/ |
| 06:15.13 | rohan | Renze: no, but one popup still passes through the blocker |
| 06:15.24 | Renze | I block popups, so all I see is the "this page tried to open a popup..." notification |
| 06:15.27 | rohan | atleast here |
| 06:15.38 | Renze | no popups allowed here |
| 06:15.44 | rohan | hmm.. strange |
| 06:15.55 | rohan | where can i decide the agressiveness of the blocker ? |
| 06:16.05 | Renze | you can't |
| 06:16.09 | Renze | mine is just set to "smart" |
| 06:16.22 | rohan | grrr.. strange |
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| 06:22.05 | ktos | hi, i would like use "cat /etc/passwd > kdeclippoard" i i can do it? thank you |
| 06:22.27 | ktos | i i can > how can i |
| 06:24.02 | mjobin | without selecting it with the mouse ? |
| 06:24.52 | ktos | but i dont want use some editor, but `cat` command from "run box" (alt+f2) |
| 06:25.24 | mjobin | you dont need an editor, just a terminal |
| 06:25.49 | ktos | on my 700 mgh 128mb ram kedit turning on so slow... :P |
| 06:25.59 | ktos | terminal too |
| 06:26.15 | mjobin | xterm ? |
| 06:26.22 | Renze | on my old 266MHz 64MB ram machine, KDE worked very well |
| 06:26.27 | ktos | well, xterm, works good |
| 06:26.41 | ktos | but i have kde 3.5.2 :) |
| 06:26.41 | mjobin | I had a P3 600, with 384MB and KDE was all running fine, I suggest you buying RAM ;) you proc is fine |
| 06:26.57 | Renze | ktos: so? kde doesn't get slower as it goes up versions |
| 06:27.08 | mjobin | it gets faster |
| 06:27.26 | ktos | yes its true |
| 06:27.48 | ktos | ok,i can use xterm |
| 06:27.51 | mjobin | ktos: I suppose /etc/passwd was only an example? you understand it does not matter |
| 06:27.52 | ktos | thank you |
| 06:27.56 | ktos | yes |
| 06:28.04 | mjobin | you know dcop ? |
| 06:28.10 | ktos | little |
| 06:28.38 | ktos | in dcop are there any think for it? |
| 06:28.53 | rohan | with kdcop, everyone can use dcop |
| 06:29.22 | ktos | ok, i will searching, thank you |
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| 06:29.53 | mjobin | he left a bit fast, I found it for him ;) |
| 06:30.36 | mjobin | rohan: i dont think so,... the GUI does not add much easyness. the search is a bit weird. |
| 06:30.48 | rohan | ah, ok, mjobin |
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| 06:38.31 | mhall | rohan: stealing mp3s -> not always convenient |
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| 06:39.05 | rohan | mhall: yes, i dont download mp3's from that site |
| 06:39.26 | rohan | i just went to that site because a friend told me, and i found the popups |
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| 06:39.53 | mhall | rohan: i'm mostly trolling ;) |
| 06:40.09 | rohan | lol |
| 06:40.10 | rohan | :D |
| 06:40.58 | cloud9 | :d |
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| 06:51.10 | tuxcicles | anyway to keep the screensaver from fu kcn up kaffeine when wachin a moviesw |
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| 06:53.39 | Mirrage | turning it off? |
| 06:54.58 | tuxcicles | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.12 | Mirrage | hehehe |
| 06:56.06 | Mirrage | I am sorry. I dont use kaffeine. Generally, applications that dont like being disturbed by the screensaver have an option to temporaly turn the screensaver off. |
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| 06:56.35 | Renze | or they send keyboard events to stop the screensaver from activating |
| 06:56.55 | tuxcicles | yea, that is what im talkin about right there,, c'mon and show me the way |
| 06:57.10 | Mirrage | hey Renz0. you're here once again. how you doing? |
| 06:57.17 | Renze | kaffeine already does this for me... I didn't have to set any options |
| 06:57.34 | Renze | I'm always here, Mirrage... just not always awake or at the keyboard :) |
| 06:57.59 | tuxcicles | i just installed fedora, and i'm trying to figure out how to live with it |
| 06:58.20 | Renze | are you using the gstreamer engine or the xine engine? |
| 06:58.34 | tuxcicles | xine |
| 06:58.48 | Renze | xine already sends keyboard events |
| 06:58.58 | tuxcicles | gstreamer them |
| 06:59.03 | tuxcicles | :} |
| 07:00.13 | tuxcicles | i got it pointing to w32codecs, i dont know, there is no kaffeine-xine in fedora |
| 07:00.34 | Renze | in ~/.kaffeine/config, add this: gui.screensaver_timeout:10 |
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| 07:01.11 | tuxcicles | Ill give a go, thanks |
| 07:01.12 | Renze | I must warn you that experience has led me to intensely dislike fedora :) |
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| 07:02.48 | Mirrage | well |
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| 07:03.07 | Mirrage | everybody has complains on fedora's multimidia support |
| 07:03.16 | Mirrage | I hope core 5 will have improvements on that |
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| 07:04.41 | tuxcicles | i like it cus its 110% linux, but it's a love hate relationship for sure. |
| 07:05.10 | Mirrage | I dont understand |
| 07:05.13 | Mirrage | 110%? |
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| 07:05.21 | tuxcicles | no, i installed core 5, better wait for 6 |
| 07:06.49 | Mirrage | LOL. That would take long. |
| 07:07.00 | tuxcicles | Mirrage: they don't think too much of proprietary stuff, not even xine. |
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| 07:08.05 | Renze | xine proprietary? |
| 07:08.13 | Mirrage | yeah, well, I dont think that all codecs and libraries are proprietary |
| 07:08.20 | Renze | xine is GPL |
| 07:08.25 | Mirrage | yep |
| 07:08.30 | solid_liq | anyone know how I can add some new keybindings to konqueror? |
| 07:08.31 | Renze | the win32 codecs aren't :) |
| 07:08.49 | tuxcicles | but i like it though, its pretty cool :D |
| 07:08.49 | Renze | solid_liq: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts |
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| 07:09.46 | Mirrage | Renze, well, what would forbidden fedora to deliver mplayer with all its codecs? |
| 07:09.57 | Renze | no idea |
| 07:10.13 | Renze | mplayer uses the win32 codecs too |
| 07:10.18 | Mirrage | yes it does |
| 07:10.25 | tuxcicles | fedora has little to do with mplayer |
| 07:10.41 | Mirrage | tuxcicles, you dont make sense. |
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| 07:10.47 | tuxcicles | you have to slide that repository in there |
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| 07:11.26 | Mirrage | That is because they decided it had to be that way. |
| 07:11.40 | Mirrage | Even thou, I dont know of any distribuition that comes with a pre-installed mplayer version |
| 07:11.56 | solid_liq | Renze: cool, thanks :D |
| 07:11.58 | Renze | my distro doesn't come with anything preinstalled :) |
| 07:12.02 | Mirrage | This subject is confusing. |
| 07:12.04 | Renze | solid_liq: no problem :) |
| 07:12.11 | Mirrage | Renze, lol, that is not what I meant, silly. |
| 07:12.16 | tuxcicles | true, i dunno, peanut linux might |
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| 07:13.24 | Renze | I am so sick of The DaVinci Code... |
| 07:13.39 | Mirrage | I dont really care that much about playing videos but I understand they must support video streaming and most well-known audio extensions playback if they intend to earn market |
| 07:13.41 | drgonzo | hello all |
| 07:13.45 | Mirrage | they = anyone |
| 07:13.56 | Mirrage | Renze, did you watch it? |
| 07:13.58 | drgonzo | I dunnoi whats up but u started kontact today and its running extremly poorly |
| 07:13.59 | Mirrage | hello drgonzo |
| 07:14.04 | Renze | no, and I'm not going to bother :) |
| 07:14.12 | drgonzo | but it's not consuming insane amounts of cpur or ram |
| 07:14.25 | drgonzo | it's just taking ages to do anything like moving emails around or deleting an email etc. |
| 07:14.31 | Renze | drgonzo: can you describe what's happening? |
| 07:14.32 | drgonzo | it's like its hanging for a 30 seconds or so. |
| 07:14.39 | Renze | hmmm... |
| 07:14.44 | tuxcicles | I think I wanna play with gstreamer a little more, has anyone actually had any luck with it> |
| 07:14.56 | drgonzo | In fact I'm using ubuntu and i just did a kde upgrade, and it's still running bad. |
| 07:14.57 | Mirrage | Renze, are you reading the book then or is just the advertising campaign and everybody being so histerical about it? |
| 07:14.59 | drgonzo | Upgrade didn't fix the problem |
| 07:15.01 | Renze | tuxcicles: I've had a lot more luck with xine :) |
| 07:15.20 | drgonzo | It was an increment update 3.5.2-ubuntu24 was 23 |
| 07:15.35 | Renze | Mirrage: I'm talking about all the tv spots about it, and everybody debating it, and all the hype and press coverage, ad infinitum ad nauseum... |
| 07:16.29 | tuxcicles | yea, xine, gxine, totem, some kaffeine, and mplayer, lots of luck. without gstreamer. |
| 07:16.30 | Mirrage | Renze, yeah, that is what I meant. There is a movie theather on my block and last friday all the street was very crowded because of its premiere |
| 07:16.30 | drgonzo | One thing though, When I was running kerry, it was consumming cpu and kmail was taking time so I killed it. Then afterwards it was running bad |
| 07:16.35 | drgonzo | could of something corrupted? |
| 07:16.45 | drgonzo | I've rebooted too, which didn't fix the problem. |
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| 07:17.01 | Renze | drgonzo: it could only affect something in your home directory anyway |
| 07:17.18 | Renze | unless you're silly and use your system as root :) |
| 07:17.41 | drgonzo | maybe my index files? |
| 07:17.46 | drgonzo | should i delete them |
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| 07:18.08 | Mirrage | Renze, everybody in my family read dan brown's book and hey had been part of that da vinci code book fashion |
| 07:18.15 | Renze | I've never messed with Mail/ stuff... |
| 07:18.31 | tuxcicles | im running kplayer on fedora5, but none of the brightness, color hue, or contrast controlls do shit. anyone know a fix for that? |
| 07:18.33 | Renze | I haven't read it... I was intending to, but now I'm not sure |
| 07:18.35 | drgonzo | well I've been told before if they are corrupted delte them and let kmail recreate them |
| 07:18.38 | drgonzo | I'll give it a shot |
| 07:18.49 | Mirrage | Renze, even worst, the girl that I am starting dating said that we shall be going to the movies this week and I bet she wants to watch it |
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| 07:19.16 | Renze | Mirrage: grin and bear it :) |
| 07:19.56 | tuxcicles | good, maybe she wont be watching where you put your hands |
| 07:20.14 | Mirrage | well |
| 07:20.25 | Mirrage | actually I dont like "dating" at the movies |
| 07:20.28 | Mirrage | it is pretty silly |
| 07:20.36 | Mirrage | no one watches the movie |
| 07:20.38 | drgonzo | sweet that fixed the problem |
| 07:20.43 | Mirrage | and it is very unconfortable |
| 07:20.44 | drgonzo | thanks anyway guys/gals :) |
| 07:21.07 | Renze | drgonzo: at least I know what to suggest if anyone else has problems :) |
| 07:21.18 | drgonzo | later all |
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| 07:21.21 | Mirrage | bye bye |
| 07:21.58 | tuxcicles | that guy left flaccid, lol |
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| 07:24.01 | Mirrage | What if kde had an uinstalling control center for its own sets of applications? |
| 07:24.09 | tuxcicles | i need to get laid, i am aready drunk, sittn here installing fedora 5 all day |
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| 07:24.43 | Mirrage | Lol. How could you do that? It is just inserting the cd and clicking next |
| 07:25.12 | tuxcicles | hey bartender, yea, then you have to fix it so you can live with it. |
| 07:25.25 | Mirrage | Renze, what if kde had an uinstalling control center for its own sets of applications? |
| 07:25.39 | Renze | Mirrage: I wouldn't use it... I like the gentoo way :) |
| 07:26.05 | Mirrage | What is the gentoo way? |
| 07:26.17 | Renze | emerge <appname> :) |
| 07:26.52 | Renze | downloads, builds, installs into a sandbox, then merges it with the working filesystem |
| 07:27.06 | tuxcicles | out of control way? :) much like fedora, i like the way it sets up though, its cool |
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| 07:28.36 | Renze | oh, insert "patches" between downloads and builds |
| 07:28.47 | Mirrage | a sandbox?how does it simulates the environment? |
| 07:29.03 | Renze | it doesn't need to... it only need to simulate the filesystem |
| 07:29.09 | Renze | needs* |
| 07:29.25 | Mirrage | why would it be a sandbox then? |
| 07:29.40 | Mirrage | it just installs content to a temporary location |
| 07:29.46 | Renze | so it knows that it installs successfully before actually changing anything on the working filesystem |
| 07:30.07 | Renze | it can also test it, if you want to |
| 07:30.17 | Mirrage | I see |
| 07:30.18 | Renze | I usually don't bother :) |
| 07:30.35 | tsdh | Hi all. My kmail is broken. If I start it from command line I get messages like "QGArray::at: Absolute index 892108940 out of range" and it allocates all my memory including swap. |
| 07:30.54 | Renze | ouch! |
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| 07:31.01 | Renze | how did you manage that? |
| 07:31.20 | tsdh | This happens since I forgot to close kontact when shutting down my pc, which normally should be no problem... |
| 07:31.33 | Renze | ah, it could be broken index files in ~/Mail/ |
| 07:31.41 | tuxcicles | with fedora, i am getting 1920x1080 on resolution, any other os, I can only get 1152x764 max, fedora is blowing my mind, and probably my monitor with some of the stuff i am getting away with here |
| 07:31.46 | tuxcicles | with fedora, i am getting 1920x1080 on resolution, any other os, I can only get 1152x764 max, fedora is blowing my mind, and probably my monitor with some of the stuff i am getting away with here |
| 07:31.59 | tuxcicles | with fedora, i am getting 1920x1080 on resolution, any other os, I can only get 1152x764 max, fedora is blowing my mind, and probably my monitor with some of the stuff i am getting away with here |
| 07:32.01 | tsdh | Renze: Yeah, thought something like this. |
| 07:32.03 | Renze | tuxcicles: you mean you don't know how to edit xorg.conf? :) |
| 07:32.25 | Mirrage | Renze, hahahaha apparently not |
| 07:32.25 | tuxcicles | sorry bout that |
| 07:32.35 | tsdh | Renze: Is it save to delete them or use backups, or will I loose messages then? |
| 07:32.40 | Mirrage | I cannot imagine how 1920x1080 looks like |
| 07:32.51 | tuxcicles | yea, it has tools in gnome and kde for all that stuff. |
| 07:33.01 | Renze | tsdh: I'm not sure... I've never messed with files in there, but if you have a broken index, you might need to delete them |
| 07:33.32 | Renze | 1920x1080 is HDTV maximum |
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| 07:33.46 | tuxcicles | looks good, i'm using monster fonts though, and big decoration |
| 07:33.50 | tsdh | Renze: Do you know how I could check which one is broken? |
| 07:34.02 | Renze | tsdh: no idea, I'm afraid |
| 07:34.30 | Mirrage | Renze, does gentoo portage offers a menu fully integrated with the compilation options similar to configure script's arguments? |
| 07:34.39 | tsdh | Renze: No problem. Thanks anyway |
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| 07:35.12 | Renze | Mirrage: it uses "use flags". you set the use flags for the features you want, and the ebuild takes care of the rest. For example, I set the use flag "xine" and all apps that can support xine will. |
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| 07:36.29 | Mirrage | Renze, I am sorry, I didnt get it. I meant a menu poping up with compilation-time options just like the FreeBSD ports offer. I am asking because I think all options should be displayed before compilating. |
| 07:36.53 | Renze | Mirrage: no, no menu... you have to edit a config file and set the use flags you want |
| 07:37.07 | Mirrage | Renze, I see. |
| 07:37.16 | Renze | there are front-ends for setting use flags that make it easier |
| 07:37.24 | Renze | but they don't pop up with every build |
| 07:37.36 | Renze | you set them once, and that's it |
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| 07:39.30 | Mirrage | Everybuild?Do you mean everytime you build the same application? |
| 07:40.07 | Renze | no no, use flags are set globally, not for each app (although you can do that too) |
| 07:40.08 | Mirrage | If so, it should, well, imagine the new version of the application has a few more options. You would want to see it |
| 07:40.17 | Mirrage | I dont get it |
| 07:40.19 | Renze | then you check before you emerge it |
| 07:40.28 | Renze | go read up about portage on www.gentoo.org :) |
| 07:40.30 | Mirrage | how about applications specific options? |
| 07:40.44 | Renze | those go in /etc/portage/package.use |
| 07:40.52 | Mirrage | like... ./configure --enable-renzo-fastforwarding |
| 07:40.59 | Renze | ^^ |
| 07:41.20 | Renze | every package has use flags, but some of them are global |
| 07:41.41 | Mirrage | Ok |
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| 07:44.39 | tsdh | Renze: I deleted all index files and now it works again. :-) |
| 07:45.25 | Renze | tsdh: ok :) |
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| 07:51.24 | Mirrage | I dont understand this people |
| 07:51.28 | somekool | i just won an atlantik game with a fortune of 13387$ ;) |
| 07:51.45 | Renze | where's my share? :) |
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| 07:56.06 | tuxcicles | anyone using fedora? how would one see what files are installed. i know with debian it's dpkg -l | grep filename. Ive tried rpm -l and nothing comes up. |
| 07:56.48 | Renze | rpm -qa | grep filename, or rpm -q filename |
| 07:57.04 | Renze | I think |
| 07:57.08 | Renze | it's been a while |
| 07:58.08 | Q-collective | Renze: yeah, think it was the last one |
| 07:58.21 | Q-collective | although, it has been two years for me aswell |
| 07:58.31 | Q-collective | you tend to forget those things ;) |
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| 07:58.36 | Renze | yup :) |
| 07:59.02 | tuxcicles | nice, its -qa, thanks |
| 07:59.19 | Mirrage | youre right |
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| 08:03.47 | tuxcicles | this is a long shot, but anyone get fedora's version of fglrx to work right? all the opengl stuff doesn't work, and there is no option for tvout, i am using a radeon 9200 card. |
| 08:04.15 | Renze | no, but gentoo's version of fglrx works fine :) |
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| 08:05.17 | Renze | tuxcicles: you might try asking in #fedora, if you can get the residents of that channel to unplug their heads from their asses :) |
| 08:05.26 | tuxcicles | but it does a great job of maxing out screen resolution - but the ati utility has nothing for tvout/ |
| 08:05.27 | pjv | how do i make a keyboard shortcuts, so that when i type a certain button it minimizes all windows that are open |
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| 08:06.00 | Q-collective | tuxcicles: the 9200 series is no longer supported in recent fglrx releases |
| 08:06.03 | benJIman | pjv: well there's one for "toggle showing desktop" which is not quite the same |
| 08:06.10 | benJIman | it does what windows+d does in windows |
| 08:06.19 | tuxcicles | im in the fedora room too. i think they all went to wack off or something. |
| 08:06.20 | Q-collective | tuxcicles: try DRI |
| 08:06.27 | pjv | benJIman: exactly :0 |
| 08:06.29 | pjv | :) |
| 08:06.39 | benJIman | pjv: that's not minimizing all |
| 08:06.47 | pjv | ohh |
| 08:06.59 | benJIman | if you show desktop and open another app they all open again |
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| 08:07.26 | pjv | hmmm |
| 08:07.56 | tuxcicles | dri eh? that sound non-proprietary and impossible |
| 08:08.28 | benJIman | pjv: anyway kcontrol -> regional & accessability -> keyboard shortcuts -> search for toggle |
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| 08:08.44 | pjv | benJIman: ty |
| 08:08.58 | Q-collective | tuxcicles: the 9200 has been supported perfectly fine by DRI for years now |
| 08:09.31 | tuxcicles | really? what driver does it use, radeon? |
| 08:09.55 | Q-collective | yes, and r200 for 3d accel |
| 08:10.04 | Mirrage | i got to go |
| 08:10.06 | Mirrage | bye bye all |
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| 08:10.11 | Q-collective | hf |
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| 08:11.29 | tuxcicles | or rendition maybe? i see rendition out there |
| 08:13.21 | pjv | benJIman: i see what your getting at now. it's not the same as the "windows button + D" which minimises all windows and shows the desktop |
| 08:13.34 | benJIman | pjv: it is the same |
| 08:13.48 | benJIman | in windows if you do windows+d and open another window all the windows re-appear |
| 08:13.50 | benJIman | kde does the same |
| 08:14.01 | pjv | benJIman: it only minimises one window here |
| 08:14.23 | benJIman | pjv: you assigned a keyboard shortcut to "toggle showing desktop"? |
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| 08:15.10 | pjv | shit, |
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| 09:28.56 | [Linux] | hello, can anyone tell me why my kaffeine is so slow? |
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| 09:29.17 | batiste | Hello |
| 09:29.31 | batiste | I have a question about a strang copy paste behavior |
| 09:30.16 | batiste | For example, I look at the source of a web page with kedit, I select some HTML, close Kedit... The selected is lost ... |
| 09:30.28 | batiste | Impossible to paste ... |
| 09:30.43 | batiste | Is that a standard behavior ? |
| 09:32.00 | rdale | no, klipper should save it. Did you copy the text as well as just selecting it? |
| 09:33.33 | batiste | I think I just select it |
| 09:34.31 | batiste | No, in fact it's the same behavior when I copy the text |
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| 09:35.45 | batiste | I don't use klipper in fact |
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| 09:37.44 | batiste | I think I just have to use Klipper :) Don't you think ? |
| 09:37.51 | rdale | well, it's klipper's job to save the clipboard when an application exits, even if you don't interact with it directly |
| 09:38.13 | rdale | I've just discovered I don't have kedit installed, so I can't try it out myself |
| 09:39.24 | batiste | It works with klipper |
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| 09:40.52 | batiste | Thx, have a good day |
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| 09:48.15 | root_ | 有人说 汉è¯å—/ |
| 09:49.41 | root_ | 咨询一下关于 apache下的 php问题 |
| 09:49.48 | Renze | english only, please |
| 09:50.19 | Desintegr | lol |
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| 09:59.59 | _manoj | hi |
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| 10:04.54 | cloud9 | hi manoj |
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| 10:19.59 | Worf | oh - didn't know that i have that font installed :) |
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| 10:40.24 | jack- | heyho |
| 10:40.46 | jack- | i need a hint..check http://fink.byethost17.com/screenshot.png |
| 10:40.55 | jack- | fc-cache -fv didnt help |
| 10:41.01 | jack- | i have no idea what to try next :x |
| 10:41.41 | jack- | distribution/kde version: darwin 8.6, kde 3.5.2 |
| 10:42.06 | jack- | happened after i updated to the latest revision of 3.5.2 tonight |
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| 10:48.37 | pinky | Now I'm not entirely sure if this is KDE's doing or what, but why is it that when inserting a data CD or DVD with the iso9660 filesystem it mounts automatically just fine, but a DVD with UDF 1.02 fails and I have to do "mount -t udf /dev/hda" on the command line? |
| 10:49.54 | pinky | Granted, I only use UDF for data DVDs that need files over 2GB on them (due to iso9660's filesize limiations) but I still have quite a few of them, and it's slightly annoying that KDE (again I think it's KDE?) can't figure out that it's UDF and mount it properly. |
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| 11:00.26 | xored | how can i switch kde to an other language / how to install new languages ? |
| 11:00.50 | Desintegr | install kde-i18n packages |
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| 11:01.16 | jack- | http://fink.byethost17.com/screenshot.png |
| 11:01.23 | jack- | Desintegr; any idea? |
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| 11:01.46 | Desintegr | jack-: locale used ? |
| 11:02.10 | jack- | nothing changed..looks like that after i upgraded the kde libs |
| 11:02.11 | tsdh | Does KMail not offer the possibility to open the external editor with a mouse click or something like that? Currently I can only set it to always on or always of... |
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| 11:03.32 | Desintegr | jack-: change to US English locale |
| 11:03.38 | jack- | how? |
| 11:03.47 | jack- | (which file do i need to edit?) |
| 11:03.52 | Desintegr | Countrie / Language settings |
| 11:03.55 | Desintegr | in Kcontrol |
| 11:03.59 | jack- | lol |
| 11:04.12 | jack- | as if i could use kde stuff with those squares ;) |
| 11:04.30 | jack- | need to fix it without kde running |
| 11:04.35 | jack- | to be able to USE it again |
| 11:05.24 | Desintegr | kdeglobals file |
| 11:05.31 | Desintegr | [Locale] section |
| 11:05.42 | jack- | thx |
| 11:05.50 | jack- | whats the default location/filename? |
| 11:05.53 | Desintegr | try to changes default fonts too |
| 11:06.05 | Desintegr | ~/.kde/share/config |
| 11:06.26 | jack- | yay, got it |
| 11:07.06 | Desintegr | en_US |
| 11:07.12 | jack- | Country=de |
| 11:07.12 | jack- | DecimalSymbol=. |
| 11:07.13 | jack- | Language=de |
| 11:07.17 | jack- | set both to en_US? |
| 11:07.20 | Desintegr | yes |
| 11:07.23 | jack- | ok |
| 11:07.50 | Desintegr | and [General] section |
| 11:07.56 | Desintegr | remove fonts params |
| 11:08.25 | Desintegr | then restart KDE session |
| 11:08.36 | jack- | ok, done |
| 11:08.40 | jack- | lets try :) thanks |
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| 11:12.53 | Desintegr | jack-: so ? |
| 11:13.10 | jack- | its still starting |
| 11:13.15 | jack- | slow box, takes a while |
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| 11:13.30 | jack- | ok, shit..that didnt help |
| 11:13.39 | jack- | still squares from the start |
| 11:14.16 | jack- | :< |
| 11:14.26 | jack- | anything else i could check? |
| 11:14.55 | Desintegr | hum, font system |
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| 11:15.13 | jack- | yup, but what |
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| 11:15.29 | jack- | fc-cache -fv finished successfully, looks ok |
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| 11:15.57 | Desintegr | if you start a KDE session with a new created user ? |
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| 11:16.23 | jack- | omg |
| 11:16.36 | Desintegr | ? |
| 11:16.52 | jack- | that would require quite a bit of work |
| 11:17.22 | Desintegr | adduser/useradd command |
| 11:17.38 | jack- | its a mac |
| 11:17.59 | jack- | would have to run x11 with the other user, too..damn |
| 11:18.16 | jack- | i'd prefer to get it fixed for my current (and only) user.. ;) |
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| 11:19.32 | Desintegr | to create a new user is the best way to know if the problem is the system or the user conf. |
| 11:20.15 | jack- | well, i just renamed ~/.kde and ~/.kderc |
| 11:20.36 | jack- | doesnt seem to change anything |
| 11:20.53 | jack- | still squares from the start |
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| 11:21.28 | Desintegr | fonts works in GTK apps ? |
| 11:21.50 | jack- | no clue..gotta wait until the startup is finished |
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| 11:22.33 | jack- | its super slow now, looks like some font lib is eating shitloads of ram or so |
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| 11:40.42 | jack- | Desintegr: yep, fonts in gtk apps are ok |
| 11:40.50 | jack- | just started galeon..looks fine |
| 11:41.01 | Desintegr | weird |
| 11:42.36 | jack- | yup :x |
| 11:42.51 | jack- | everything works, just the kde fonts are totally screwed up |
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| 11:47.17 | patientfox | does kde have a native app similar in functionality to dia? |
| 11:47.55 | haakonn | kivio, if you can stand it |
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| 11:49.06 | drgonzo | mmm, looks like that didnt fix it. |
| 11:49.12 | drgonzo | Once I got some new mails the problem has arrisen again... |
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| 11:49.56 | drgonzo | Its odd, its playing up like my cpu is being maxxed out, but it isn't at all. |
| 11:50.46 | drgonzo | ah here we go... ERROR: Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed. |
| 11:52.13 | drgonzo | http://paste.uni.cc/9095 |
| 11:52.19 | drgonzo | Here is another error I'm getting when it loads. |
| 11:52.23 | drgonzo | It's just running really poorly |
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| 11:55.07 | xored | are there any "sound" like wavs / beeps stored in the kde dirs ? |
| 11:55.17 | xored | for using them wih xchat etc |
| 11:55.22 | pinotree | $KDEDIR/share/sounds/ |
| 11:55.38 | pinotree | wft... |
| 11:55.48 | drgonzo | Here is a better description |
| 11:56.00 | drgonzo | t's freezing up for about 30/40 seconds with any actions like deleting an email or moving it. I thought it might of been a corrupted index files so i regenerated them but It didn't fix the problem once new emails came back... It started again I've got some errors with kmail starting too |
| 11:56.14 | drgonzo | http://paste.uni.cc/9095 |
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| 11:56.18 | Mooby | hi |
| 11:56.34 | drgonzo | it's also complaing about a stale lockfile |
| 11:56.41 | drgonzo | and when it close it off, it doesn't fully exit. |
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| 11:58.02 | Mooby | I'm looking in a way to have the same resourcefile for my bookmark at different locations |
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| 11:58.38 | drgonzo | also what the hell does this mean WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) destroyed. ? |
| 11:58.45 | Mooby | it is easy to do that with calendar and adresse book in kontact with a"remote file", but I don't find something equivalent for the bookmarks |
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| 12:01.07 | xored | are there any sound / wavs in the KDE installation to use with chat beeps etc |
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| 12:05.19 | _per_ | wow, 225 users! |
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| 12:07.24 | gemidjy | http://wiki.kde.org isn't functional, is it ? |
| 12:08.19 | _per_ | well i takes a long time to respond |
| 12:08.24 | _per_ | *it |
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| 12:10.00 | _per_ | gemidjy, i think it is functional |
| 12:10.07 | _per_ | just slow |
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| 12:14.45 | gemidjy | yes |
| 12:14.48 | gemidjy | _per_ thanks |
| 12:15.07 | _per_ | no problem, gemidjy |
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| 12:22.00 | mhterres | morning |
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| 12:23.13 | charzero | Is there a way to make kmail use a specified pager to view emails, or maybe be really crazy and look at $PAGER? |
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| 12:31.43 | klerfayt | how do I play system sounds without arts? |
| 12:32.24 | Sho_ | klerfayt: You can chose to use an external player command in the advanced settings, and then use anything that has fast startup and plays ogg/wa |
| 12:32.26 | Sho_ | *wav |
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| 12:32.47 | klerfayt | Sho_: can I use alsa? |
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| 12:33.00 | Sho_ | klerfayt: you can use a player that outputs to alsa, sure .. |
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| 12:33.44 | znh | Hello |
| 12:33.51 | klerfayt | Sho_: why it has to be player? |
| 12:33.56 | znh | Does KDE has some frontend to /dev/mixerN ? |
| 12:34.03 | Desintegr | « play » command from sox package |
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| 12:34.11 | Desintegr | znh: kmix ? |
| 12:34.17 | Sho_ | klerfayt: because the Ogg files need to be decoded, for example, and that's not ALSA's job |
| 12:34.24 | znh | Desintegr, pwn :) |
| 12:34.36 | Desintegr | znh: OSS card ? |
| 12:34.43 | Sho_ | klerfayt: ALSA's job is talking to the soundcard, primarily, it does not include software decoders for multimedia formats such as Ogg Vorbis (which KDE uses for system sounds) |
| 12:35.12 | znh | Desintegr, yes it is supported by OSS. but Alsa works fine too :-). -- I Just searched a nice frontend (other than alsamixer) as mixer |
| 12:35.27 | Desintegr | why /dev/mixerX ? |
| 12:35.47 | znh | just as indiciation what I am searching for |
| 12:35.51 | Desintegr | if ALSA works, use an ALSA mixer |
| 12:35.54 | Desintegr | like Kmix |
| 12:36.00 | znh | kmix is perfect. thank you |
| 12:36.06 | Desintegr | ah |
| 12:36.07 | Desintegr | ok |
| 12:36.15 | klerfayt | I want clock to be placed vertically then I put kicker at side |
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| 12:38.17 | oneforall | I use kmix with alsa |
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| 12:38.25 | oneforall | arts is disabled |
| 12:38.25 | klerfayt | also I would like to see window list and system tray in vertical position - can it be done at the moment? |
| 12:39.49 | Desintegr | dunno |
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| 12:41.15 | eNTi | where does kde safe screenshots by default? |
| 12:41.50 | Desintegr | you should save the shot yourself |
| 12:41.53 | Desintegr | with ksnapshot |
| 12:42.16 | eNTi | why? |
| 12:42.30 | Desintegr | how do you take your shot ? |
| 12:42.52 | eNTi | STRG or ALT + SCREEN |
| 12:43.00 | eNTi | or is it PRINT? |
| 12:43.06 | eNTi | not sure how the key is called in english |
| 12:43.18 | _per_ | "Print Screen" i think |
| 12:43.19 | eNTi | actually, it's Print Screen :) |
| 12:43.50 | eNTi | and you can change that in the shortcuts menu |
| 12:44.02 | eNTi | but i haven't found a way to change the default path, and i can't find my screenshots. |
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| 12:44.46 | znh | wow ksnapshot has some nice features! |
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| 12:46.59 | eNTi | i don't want no features, i just want my screenshots and no need to use an external program if possible :). |
| 12:47.25 | visik7 | ksnapshot is integrated in kde |
| 12:47.31 | znh | indeed |
| 12:47.54 | Desintegr | ALT+F2 / ksnapshot / save button |
| 12:48.08 | _per_ | hey, does anyone have some tips to make my KDE 3.5.2 look really cool? |
| 12:48.09 | Desintegr | bind Print Screen Key to ksnapshot |
| 12:48.22 | Desintegr | _per_: KDE 3.5.2 is already cool |
| 12:48.39 | eNTi | is there noone who can answer me? |
| 12:48.43 | _per_ | Desintegr: i know! but even more |
| 12:48.47 | eNTi | does noone ever use that feature? |
| 12:48.58 | _per_ | what feature, eNTi? |
| 12:49.21 | eNTi | the standard screenshot feature of kde. |
| 12:49.46 | Mooby | doesn't the PrintScreen key launch ksnapshot ? :) |
| 12:50.39 | Desintegr | it does, I think |
| 12:50.47 | visik7 | Mooby: if you bind it to do it yes |
| 12:51.13 | klerfayt | visik7: did you get aoss working with flash? |
| 12:51.26 | visik7 | firefox or konq ? |
| 12:51.38 | klerfayt | visik7: I did in firefox and konq :) |
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| 12:52.08 | visik7 | klerfayt: tell me |
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| 12:52.11 | visik7 | :) |
| 12:52.25 | klerfayt | visik7: ok. install alsa-oss |
| 12:52.28 | visik7 | btw I still have some issue with google video and embedded youtube video with konqueror |
| 12:52.31 | visik7 | installed |
| 12:52.37 | xored | are there any soudn files in the KDE installation ( wav etc) to use it with xchat and all other "notices" |
| 12:52.41 | klerfayt | visik7: you need java |
| 12:52.50 | klerfayt | visik7: for google video |
| 12:52.56 | visik7 | isn't it in flash ? |
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| 12:53.01 | klerfayt | visik7: in google video |
| 12:53.20 | klerfayt | visik7: it works for me but only after installing java |
| 12:53.27 | visik7 | ok |
| 12:53.35 | visik7 | back to aoss |
| 12:54.12 | jack- | http://fink.byethost17.com/screenshot.png |
| 12:54.15 | jack- | any hints? :x |
| 12:54.33 | visik7 | you miss some fonts |
| 12:54.43 | jack- | locale is en_US, kdeglobals is practically empty, fc-cache -fv didnt change shit, and gtk-apps still have no problems |
| 12:55.00 | jack- | i'm pretty sure all fonts are still there |
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| 12:55.08 | jack- | anything else i could check? :x |
| 12:55.15 | klerfayt | visik7: after installing alsa-oss FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc |
| 12:55.35 | gemidjy | jack- dejavu fonts |
| 12:55.41 | jack- | dejavu? |
| 12:56.20 | klerfayt | visik7: for konq. run aoss konqueror (I have't found the config file to sett aoss for konq. like it can be done in firefox) |
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| 12:56.30 | jack- | root# apt-cache search dejavu |
| 12:56.31 | jack- | root# |
| 12:56.33 | jack- | :x |
| 12:56.42 | visik7 | klerfayt: infact konq allow to use only artsdsp for plugins |
| 12:56.42 | jack- | gemidjy, wtf do you mean? |
| 12:56.44 | visik7 | not aoss |
| 12:56.56 | klerfayt | google video runs fine after installing http://www.java.com:80/en/download/manual.jsp |
| 12:57.02 | visik7 | klerfayt: maybe uninstalling artsdsp and link artsdsp to oss it works |
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| 12:57.13 | klerfayt | visik7: disable that option in konq |
| 12:57.26 | _per_ | so nobody has tips for making KDE (even more) cool? |
| 12:57.29 | klerfayt | visik7: "aoss konqueror" works |
| 12:58.06 | visik7 | yes but sux alot |
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| 12:58.13 | visik7 | 'couse konqueror is run for me in different places |
| 12:58.23 | visik7 | not just in the kicker panel |
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| 13:02.30 | visik7 | btw klerfayt I've java installed but embedded youtube and plain google video doesn't work |
| 13:03.14 | klerfayt | visik7: it works for me. did you installed java using apt? |
| 13:03.19 | visik7 | yes |
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| 13:03.28 | visik7 | klerfayt: which version of java do u use ? |
| 13:03.58 | klerfayt | visik7: I got it here http://www.java.com:80/en/download/manual.jsp |
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| 13:04.13 | visik7 | I've an external repo |
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| 13:04.22 | visik7 | that give me 1.5.0update06 |
| 13:04.31 | visik7 | and works in other sites under konq |
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| 13:06.54 | xored | are there any soudn files in the KDE installation ( wav etc) to use it with xchat and all other "notices" |
| 13:07.23 | pinotree | xored: $KDEDIR/share/sounds/ |
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| 13:08.26 | Tintin | Is there a KDE script language that I can use to automate stuff with, or should I just shell scripts? |
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| 13:10.25 | gemidjy | apt o.0 |
| 13:11.33 | matej_ | Tintin: mu. I mean, you can create scripts with any language you like (if it has DCOP bindings) and then just talk to KDE programs via DCOP. Semiofficial KDE language is KJS (JavaScript), but there are many people who use Python, and I saw projects in Perl and Ruby as well. And of course, you can use just bash (with dcop command). |
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| 13:14.38 | Tintin | matej_: Ok, sweet. what do you think would be easiest... I basically need to start a lot of konsole windows and 'cd' to a specifi dir and then start a program. Each with different parameters. |
| 13:15.16 | matej_ | bash |
| 13:15.23 | xored | pinotree: thank you |
| 13:15.57 | Tintin | matej_: Ok, thanks. So basically I should look up konsoles dcop interface, and access via bash? |
| 13:16.41 | Tintin | Isn't there some kind of dcop interface viewer or something? I think I remember something about it. |
| 13:16.48 | matej_ | yup -- you can use kdcop, there you can browse through all available services more easily. |
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| 13:17.02 | Tintin | matej_: Ahh... sweet. |
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| 13:53.16 | Bounga | hi |
| 13:53.46 | Bounga | I've got a kword related question, am I in the right channel ? |
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| 14:03.21 | visik7 | I'm going to buy an apple http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1542 |
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| 14:04.00 | Bounga | So nobody for KWord ? |
| 14:04.07 | pinotree | Bounga: #koffice ? |
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| 14:04.19 | Bounga | thank you :) |
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| 14:13.30 | macisaac | anybody know what sets the default icons (as in show desktop, home, konq, and help) for new users the panel? |
| 14:14.29 | smileaf | $KDEDIR/share/ config files |
| 14:16.15 | yoruichi | smileaf!! |
| 14:16.20 | smileaf | hi |
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| 14:18.19 | Pooh22 | I'm running ktorrent ATM, lots of peers, I'm at 99.29% and now nobody is giving me data, is that normal? |
| 14:18.32 | Pooh22 | yes I'm uploading too |
| 14:18.39 | Desintegr | restart Ktorrent |
| 14:18.54 | Pooh22 | will it remember the torrent? |
| 14:19.02 | Desintegr | yes |
| 14:19.11 | Desintegr | and finish the download |
| 14:19.41 | visik7 | Pooh22: maybe there aren't any complete source |
| 14:19.43 | visik7 | s |
| 14:20.05 | Pooh22 | visik7: I think there are 14 and counting seeders |
| 14:20.24 | Pooh22 | ah it's downloading again, tnx Desintegr! |
| 14:20.48 | Desintegr | known bug, but theorically fixed |
| 14:20.49 | Desintegr | seems not |
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| 14:21.03 | Pooh22 | it's 1.2, not 1.3 |
| 14:21.30 | Desintegr | I use 2.0 b1 |
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| 14:22.10 | Pooh22 | I'm not going to compile a new one from CVS/SVN ;-) |
| 14:23.10 | Pooh22 | maybe I'll notify kubuntu that they could fix it before they release dapper |
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| 14:23.23 | Desintegr | not an Ubuntu problem |
| 14:23.27 | Desintegr | they can't fix it |
| 14:23.31 | Desintegr | there is no patch |
| 14:23.40 | Pooh22 | hmm too bad |
| 14:23.57 | Pooh22 | you know what causes it? |
| 14:24.48 | Desintegr | no |
| 14:25.48 | Desintegr | ktorrent is a great piece of software, but it's not perfect :p |
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| 14:29.12 | japc | ey, speaking of ktorrent |
| 14:29.26 | japc | does anyone know if ktorrent supports DHT ? |
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| 14:30.41 | giangy | japc: ktorrent 2.0beta1 yes |
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| 14:30.58 | luke | hello, who knows how to "manually save a session"? |
| 14:30.59 | japc | giangy: ok, thanks |
| 14:31.04 | giangy | japc: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26353 |
| 14:31.09 | giangy | see the partial changelog :)) |
| 14:31.09 | japc | ok |
| 14:31.13 | japc | i'll check it |
| 14:31.35 | giangy | what's the distro that you use? |
| 14:32.07 | giangy | if you use slackware -current: http://rm.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/techtemple-packages/slackware/kde/apps/testing/ktorrent-2.0beta1-i486-1.tgz =) |
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| 14:32.39 | gemidjy | I built it from SVN |
| 14:32.47 | gemidjy | two days ago :) |
| 14:33.00 | gemidjy | using slack anyways |
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| 14:33.14 | giangy | gemidjy: :) |
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| 14:34.15 | TheFuzzball | hello, when I go into the Cortrol Centre, in sessions I tick off Restore Manually saved session, how do I manually save a session? |
| 14:35.09 | giangy | TheFuzzball: you should see a new option in the K Menu called "Save |
| 14:35.10 | giangy | Session". |
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| 14:35.33 | giangy | if 'restore manually saved session' is selected |
| 14:35.49 | TheFuzzball | ahh, ok thanks |
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| 14:35.57 | giangy | np |
| 14:36.08 | TheFuzzball | very sencible way of doing it actually |
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| 14:39.50 | gemidjy | anyone has idea how to make icons in contact list smaller.. |
| 14:39.54 | gemidjy | i bother their size |
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| 14:48.46 | Armop1 | hi all |
| 14:48.49 | Armop1 | how can i run cfdisk in english in the konsole if i have a spanish locale ? |
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| 14:50.16 | pinotree | LANGUAGE=C command... |
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| 14:51.42 | gemidjy | export LC_LANG=en_EN ? |
| 14:51.56 | gemidjy | the funny question is who bothers translating cfdisk |
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| 14:52.07 | JBirdAngel | what is kde written in? |
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| 14:52.15 | pinotree | C++, mostly |
| 14:52.46 | JBirdAngel | okay thanks |
| 14:58.38 | somekool | JBirdAngel: using the Qt C++ Toolkit from trolltech.com |
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| 14:59.01 | gemidjy | plus KDE libraries |
| 14:59.03 | somekool | which is by far the best gui-multiplateform library ever made. |
| 14:59.18 | somekool | gemidjy: of course, but they are part of KDE and on top of Qt ;) |
| 14:59.26 | gemidjy | sure |
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| 15:00.26 | Stolz | Anybody knows how can I change the current virtual desktop using DCOP? |
| 15:00.30 | JBirdAngel | thank you for your help |
| 15:01.00 | japc | Stolz: dcop kwin KWinInterface |
| 15:01.13 | Stolz | Thanks japc |
| 15:01.15 | japc | [japc@morgoth:~]$ dcop kwin KWinInterface | grep -i desktop |
| 15:01.15 | japc | ASYNC cascadeDesktop() |
| 15:01.15 | japc | ASYNC unclutterDesktop() |
| 15:01.16 | japc | void setDesktopLayout(int orientation,int x,int y) |
| 15:01.16 | japc | bool setCurrentDesktop(int) |
| 15:01.17 | japc | int currentDesktop() |
| 15:01.18 | japc | void nextDesktop() |
| 15:01.20 | japc | void previousDesktop() |
| 15:01.22 | japc | void circulateDesktopApplications() |
| 15:01.28 | gemidjy | damn |
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| 15:01.35 | giangy | dcop kwin KWinInterface nextDesktop |
| 15:01.41 | giangy | yep |
| 15:01.47 | japc | Stolz: example: dcop kwin KWinInterface setCurrentDesktop 4 |
| 15:02.41 | Stolz | I think I better will use "nextDesktop()" cos I only have 2 virtual desktops |
| 15:03.21 | Ci-Dev | /n/n |
| 15:03.24 | Ci-Dev | Whoops. |
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| 15:05.59 | somekool | any idea what would be the best way to record video in KDE ? |
| 15:06.23 | gemidjy | from tv tuner ? |
| 15:06.45 | somekool | webcam |
| 15:06.46 | somekool | usdb |
| 15:06.48 | somekool | usb |
| 15:06.59 | somekool | like to make a podcast for example |
| 15:07.05 | gemidjy | try xawdecode |
| 15:07.10 | somekool | video podcast |
| 15:07.17 | somekool | ok |
| 15:07.19 | gemidjy | not kde/qt based, but I use it |
| 15:07.22 | gemidjy | it has some real-time features |
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| 15:08.14 | somekool | i suppose the kdebased app will come after kde4, once phonon have access to all our multimedia hardware. |
| 15:08.48 | gemidjy | there are kde apps for this purpose |
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| 15:14.16 | somekool | for what purpose ? recording video podcast off a usb camera ? |
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| 15:19.08 | RockMan | ciao |
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| 15:24.02 | juan | hi |
| 15:24.02 | pinotree | hello |
| 15:24.02 | juan | there are colombianos gear |
| 15:24.07 | pinotree | ? |
| 15:24.14 | gemidjy | heh |
| 15:24.18 | juan | what your name pinotree? |
| 15:24.23 | gemidjy | tree |
| 15:24.25 | giangy | ahha |
| 15:24.31 | juan | where are you from? |
| 15:24.39 | gemidjy | pensacola |
| 15:24.53 | juan | whois pensacola? |
| 15:27.47 | smileaf | florida! |
| 15:27.50 | smileaf | >.> |
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| 15:30.17 | killercacti | Hey guys, does anyone the name of the sysinfo app in this screenshot? - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/pre1/8966-1.png |
| 15:31.05 | clank | Anyone know how to make kmail actually send a messege when you click send, as opposed to dropping it in outbox. |
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| 15:31.58 | lostson | killercacti: looks like a superkaramba app |
| 15:32.05 | smileaf | clank: accounts -> sending tab -> default send method -> send now |
| 15:32.06 | jack- | killercacti: looks like gkrellm2 with an ugly skin, or some superkaramba applet |
| 15:32.27 | smileaf | from the screenshot it looks too old to be superkaramba |
| 15:32.50 | smileaf | I'd say its gkrelim2 |
| 15:33.15 | clank | smileaf: no effect, still drops it in outbox. |
| 15:34.04 | smileaf | clank: dunno then. that should do it. try restarting kmail? |
| 15:34.11 | killercacti | well I haven't used KDE or GNOME for 6 years and I barely used it then... I'm just looking for some sysinfo app for KDE |
| 15:34.52 | smileaf | killercacti: there are plenty for superkaramba |
| 15:34.53 | jack- | get superkaramba |
| 15:35.06 | jack- | you'll drown in sysinfo stuff |
| 15:35.54 | killercacti | alright, checking it out now thanks |
| 15:36.08 | lostson | if thats gkrellm thats an ugly skin |
| 15:36.32 | smileaf | lostson: I don't remember ever seeing an attractive skin for that. |
| 15:36.46 | lostson | smileaf: i use invisible and it looks nice |
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| 15:38.28 | clank | smileaf: it half-works, it'll only send it out if I hold down the mouse button and highlight the only smtp server in the list. Good enough for now, but I can tell that's going to annoy me later :) , I'll ask around at my distro's forum/irc. |
| 15:38.59 | visik7 | anyone get cacti run with konqueror |
| 15:39.30 | smileaf | clank: hmm.. it did that to me at first also.. but then started working some time later. dunno what I did come to think of it. |
| 15:40.25 | clank | smileaf: Is there a "I really want to send this now!" option somewhere? :) |
| 15:40.46 | smileaf | clank: as I tell some people.. have you checked the 'work' box? |
| 15:41.29 | clank | smileaf: ... what's the work box? |
| 15:41.30 | smileaf | lol |
| 15:41.52 | smileaf | it's the box that when unchecked makes the app not work :D |
| 15:42.14 | clank | ah, gotcha. |
| 15:42.18 | frb-work | smileaf: they removed that option in gnome right? |
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| 15:43.16 | clank | yeah, but it's still available 205 directories deep in gconf-editor. |
| 15:44.45 | irvin | anyone done SCADA/HMI development in kde? |
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| 15:46.31 | Russel | hiho |
| 15:46.47 | Russel | i want to have an icon for a ssh connection, how can i create it? |
| 15:46.55 | smileaf | frb-work: lol.. what's up? ;) |
| 15:47.06 | StevenR | Russel: draw one? |
| 15:47.13 | frb-work | smileaf: only non-kde issues except one |
| 15:47.27 | frb-work | I want to make a drawer like I had in gnome to hold all my remote desktop connections |
| 15:47.42 | Russel | no, create the icon to click on it and automatically get connected to ssh |
| 15:47.48 | StevenR | shh |
| 15:47.52 | StevenR | ahh |
| 15:47.54 | StevenR | bah |
| 15:48.13 | aseigo | frb-work: you can put a bunch of .desktop files in a directory somewhere then add a "quick browser" to your panel that points at that directory |
| 15:48.16 | StevenR | Russel: you want konsole to open with and start the connection? |
| 15:48.29 | Russel | yeah... something integrated in kde? |
| 15:49.18 | aseigo | ah, for konsole you can just use the konsole sessions button via "add applet to panel" |
| 15:49.27 | aseigo | then set up some konsole sessions and/or bookmarks |
| 15:50.14 | Russel | found this screenshot, because of that i thougt there would be something integrated |
| 15:50.15 | Russel | http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=37287&file1=37287-1.png&file2=37287-2.png&file3=37287-3.png&name=KDE+SSH-Agent |
| 15:50.15 | StevenR | Russel: right click on the desktop, "create new" "link to application"...then put konsole -e ssh user@host.tld in the command field |
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| 15:54.32 | clank | smileaf: I have no idea why this worked, but when I enabled view-> Mail Transport, it automagically sent it like I told it. When I re-disabled it, it kept the functionality. |
| 15:55.06 | killercacti | damn... I installed Super Karamba, but on the superkaramba.com site there are 0 themes in the Information Displays/Network Status category :/ |
| 15:55.58 | lostson | hmm why do i like konwueror better than firefox |
| 15:57.15 | yoruichi | lostson: that's a tough question |
| 15:57.23 | lostson | i agree |
| 15:57.42 | lostson | i think because it runs so much faster and doesnt mem hog as much |
| 15:58.53 | lostson | konq seems to load pages faster for me as well |
| 15:59.03 | lostson | am i crazy or just drunk on KDE goodness |
| 15:59.28 | quaru | I like it because I leave news sites and such up, and like that they load on login |
| 16:00.04 | frb-work | linux firefox is a slow bloated hog |
| 16:00.18 | quaru | yeah |
| 16:00.19 | lostson | interesting quaru why not use akregator ? |
| 16:00.27 | quaru | I do sometimes. |
| 16:00.31 | killercacti | any ideas jack? |
| 16:00.45 | quaru | But then I just end up clicking on 3 or four news stories, when I could just read them |
| 16:00.59 | lostson | true |
| 16:01.15 | frb-work | don't get me wrong, I like firefox, I love the extensions... Firebug, WebDev Toolbar, FasterFox, EditCSS.... but my god it's slow on linux |
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| 16:01.22 | quaru | And I have KnewsTracker in my bar too |
| 16:01.26 | frb-work | OOo starts faster than firefox now :/ |
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| 16:02.15 | quaru | I think a lot of my habbits like that are from getting so used ot them in earlier versions of KDE ( I still have my task bar at the top of my screen ) |
| 16:02.43 | Shadowcat | heh on top |
| 16:02.45 | Shadowcat | mac user :P |
| 16:03.08 | quaru | No. never used a mac before. in KDE 1.1.2 it was the default behavior. I liked it. :p |
| 16:03.23 | Shadowcat | you're ancient |
| 16:03.27 | quaru | lol |
| 16:03.28 | quaru | Thanks |
| 16:03.47 | quaru | What qualifies me as being ancient? |
| 16:03.54 | thiago | using KDE 1.1.2 |
| 16:03.55 | thiago | :-) |
| 16:03.59 | quaru | heh |
| 16:04.06 | Shadowcat | I started out with kde 3.5 |
| 16:04.13 | smileaf | <-- KDE 2.2.2 :D |
| 16:04.16 | quaru | I have my name in KDE since 2.0 or so |
| 16:04.19 | thiago | does anyone remember kvt? |
| 16:04.31 | Shadowcat | ok you're all ancient |
| 16:04.33 | Shadowcat | :P |
| 16:04.39 | frb-work | hey, I used gnome from 0.12 to 2.0 |
| 16:04.41 | lostson | round kde 2.2 somewhere |
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| 16:04.56 | quaru | I used kvt some. and that's when I got used to it, I used pre 1.0 and 1.0, but had to go back to windows for variousreasons |
| 16:05.00 | frb-work | I started KDE at 3.4 |
| 16:05.13 | Shadowcat | gnome sucks :P |
| 16:05.45 | quaru | I've tried gnome, but never really found it useful for me. alot of my friends in the lug before I moved all used gnome, I was the odd man out |
| 16:06.43 | killercacti | superkaramba looks like a bust :P |
| 16:06.53 | smileaf | a bust? |
| 16:07.03 | Shadowcat | heh I've seen people running nothing but superkaramba |
| 16:07.07 | Shadowcat | not even a taskbar |
| 16:07.07 | quaru | *recalls with horror compiling 2.0 betas* "Krash" series. :p |
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| 16:07.17 | thiago | quaru: Krash was the KDE 2.0 Alpha |
| 16:07.28 | smileaf | I personally can't stand superkaramba :S |
| 16:07.33 | quaru | Yeah, I wasn't suer about that. I just remember it with horror |
| 16:07.46 | quaru | It was how many years ago now? |
| 16:08.00 | smileaf | 5-6? |
| 16:08.02 | quaru | 6 or 7? |
| 16:08.10 | killercacti | unless I'm looking at the wrong place, I only see a few themes for it... there is 1 made this year then a couple from Jan 05 and the rest go back before that... there aren 0 themes for network info listed, so it won't do me any good now |
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| 16:08.18 | thiago | then we had Konfucious, Kleopatra |
| 16:08.31 | killercacti | so I think I need to find something else :/ |
| 16:08.56 | quaru | I use SuperKaramba for the weather applet. that's it |
| 16:09.00 | smileaf | killercacti: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38 |
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| 16:09.15 | frb-work | I never see enough of my desktop to warrant wasting the memory on karamba |
| 16:09.43 | frb-work | maybe one day when we have full composite, and I have a machine that can do it |
| 16:09.50 | smileaf | frb-work: thats 1 reason I never really liked it :) |
| 16:09.53 | quaru | I also keep Kweather on my bar. superfluous is my middle name. I have too much memory for what I use this for |
| 16:10.09 | alexissoft | hi |
| 16:10.30 | quaru | hi alexissoft |
| 16:10.40 | frb-work | I also found it a total pain in the prostate to install new karamba modules |
| 16:10.42 | killercacti | hmm... I was on http://www.superkaramba.com/ |
| 16:10.50 | thiago | Krash, Konfucious, Kleopatra, Korner, Kopernicus, Kandidat, RC2 and Kfinal |
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| 16:11.30 | smileaf | lol .. those last 3 are great |
| 16:11.55 | smileaf | should have had a kalpha and a keta :P |
| 16:11.58 | quaru | I just always thought Krash was a great code name for the early stuff |
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| 16:15.05 | thiago | I'm trying to find more codenames, but I do remember Krokodile and Kanzler |
| 16:15.47 | quaru | Where are you digging this up at? |
| 16:16.28 | thiago | 3.5 beta 1 was Kanzler, 3.5 beta 2 was Koalition |
| 16:17.03 | thiago | 3.4 beta 1 was Krokodile, 3.4 beta 2 was Keinstein |
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| 16:17.49 | thiago | 3.3 beta 1 was Klassroom, beta 2 was Kollege |
| 16:18.00 | quaru | *looks* Huh, I guess I've had my name in since 2.0.1... |
| 16:19.08 | thiago | it doesn't look like we codenamed our releases between 2.0 and 3.3 beta |
| 16:19.48 | quaru | Wow, KDE3 has lasted a long time |
| 16:20.38 | quaru | KDE2 was only ~2 years, KDE3 has been like, ~4.. |
| 16:20.50 | thiago | KDE 2 was very short-lived |
| 16:21.05 | quaru | Yeah |
| 16:21.15 | quaru | Just from the long devel time, or what? |
| 16:21.20 | thiago | 2.0 and 2.1 were released in 2000, 2.2 in early 2001; KDE 3 arrived in 2001 |
| 16:21.28 | thiago | but 2.0 was a long time in the making |
| 16:21.39 | thiago | 2 -> 3 didn't take that long to port |
| 16:21.49 | quaru | I remember that. KDE2 was a huge step too |
| 16:21.54 | thiago | we're experiencing now the same lengthy move from 3 to 4 |
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| 16:22.10 | quaru | Is it? not on the scale of KDE2 I hope? |
| 16:22.21 | japc | even versions are a pain in the ass :) |
| 16:22.41 | thiago | we've been working on it for the past year already |
| 16:23.17 | quaru | Well, qt was already to 2.2.1 when kde2 was released, so yeah. |
| 16:23.26 | thiago | 2.1 |
| 16:23.32 | thiago | we'll release KDE 4.0 after Qt 4.2.0 is out |
| 16:24.08 | quaru | thiago: 2.1? |
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| 16:25.17 | quaru | KDE3 was qt 3.0.3 |
| 16:26.13 | quaru | Though, in fairness, QT4 has had seemingly frequesnt releases |
| 16:26.29 | thiago | we're doing our best |
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| 16:26.49 | frb-work | <whine> but I want plasma nooooowwww!!!</whine> |
| 16:27.01 | quaru | No complaints here. ;) I can wait for good stuff |
| 16:27.18 | quaru | *still happy with KDE3, actually* |
| 16:27.33 | Q-collective | happy for now ;) |
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| 16:29.25 | bUscher- | I dont care how long kde4 will take if it will be good :D |
| 16:30.38 | quaru | Does KDE4 still look to be living up to the hype? Thiago? ;p |
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| 16:31.38 | bUscher- | does kicker have a greater performance in kde4 than in kde3(.5.2)? ^^ |
| 16:32.01 | visik7 | performance ? |
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| 16:33.17 | bUscher- | hm... will it not use that mutch cpu? when fastly moving mouse over "windows button" - dont know to descripe it :| |
| 16:34.23 | linforcer | anyone here have any idea what might be up if kcontrol crashes (and arts with it, I think) when I set arts to use alsa? Everything else seems to indicate alsa is fine, and arts is built with alsa support |
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| 16:34.56 | japc | bUscher-: heard that Aaron is working on that |
| 16:35.17 | bUscher- | k =) |
| 16:36.25 | linforcer | Just tested, it also does it when I choose autodetect (so I'm guessing it uses alsa then) |
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| 16:37.59 | linforcer | Or does anyone know which command it executes to switch what it uses? So I can maybe get some output |
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| 16:52.09 | Web-kanotix759 | hi someone knows how to get mac os x icons for kde? |
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| 17:17.05 | Desintegr | re guys :) |
| 17:17.05 | The_ManU | hi someone knows mac os x icons for kde? |
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| 17:17.06 | Desintegr | maybe on kde-look.org ? |
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| 17:17.34 | illogical | The_ManU: nuove-xt. kde-look |
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| 17:38.58 | MatBoy | My KMix does not work on the Master Output, only on the WaveSurround and Center/LE switches. I'm using a Creative Soundblaster Live, what can it be ? |
| 17:39.24 | Desintegr | alsamixer works ? |
| 17:40.57 | bram85 | MatBoy: i could be you have to mute some channels to make the master work |
| 17:41.04 | bram85 | don't know which ones exactly |
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| 17:43.24 | MatBoy | bram85, is it ? |
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| 17:43.28 | MatBoy | alsamixer works |
| 17:43.31 | MatBoy | uhmm |
| 17:43.37 | MatBoy | I have to check it btw :) |
| 17:44.10 | MatBoy | alsamixer ? that is the same as you use for your hotkeys ? |
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| 17:47.35 | The_ManU | someone knows mac os x icons for kde? |
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| 17:50.16 | DaSkreech | The_ManU: Checked KDe-look.org? |
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| 17:50.52 | mg` | hello |
| 17:51.17 | MatBoy | bram85, Why do you think that of the muting ? |
| 17:51.34 | The_ManU | DaSkreech: yes, didnt found anything, in icon package i prefer there is a trash thing (hm dont know english word now) with "wire" |
| 17:51.57 | bram85 | MatBoy: i was just lucky to discover that when I was fiddling with sound |
| 17:52.05 | MatBoy | aha |
| 17:52.11 | bram85 | some channels block the main channel somehow |
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| 17:52.29 | MatBoy | bram85, OK nice to know :) |
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| 17:55.37 | The_ManU | and do you know if there are x11 mouses in mac osx style? |
| 17:55.50 | MatBoy | bram85, but what so strange is that when you change the switches on channels the sound sometimes dissapears :S |
| 17:56.14 | bram85 | yeah.. the mixer is a black box in that regard :) |
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| 17:56.31 | bram85 | i got my sb live working with trial 'n error |
| 17:56.51 | MatBoy | bram85, Kmix also does not store his settings :( |
| 17:57.08 | MatBoy | I always have to turn the switches the right ways... or no sound |
| 17:57.10 | bram85 | ok, this is the configuration I have on some computer with sb live |
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| 17:59.48 | tsdh | The_ManU: Yeah, check http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=14775 |
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| 18:05.55 | The_ManU | tsdh: thx but how to install with kde? |
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| 18:06.53 | tsdh | The_ManU: Check the "How to install" link on kde-look.org |
| 18:08.13 | er4z0r | re |
| 18:08.29 | DaSkreech | Whats a kdesu_stub? |
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| 18:10.03 | The_ManU | ok tsdh |
| 18:10.06 | The_ManU | thx :) |
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| 18:19.19 | The_ManU | tsdh: and do you know icons in mac os x style? the mouse is great thx :) |
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| 18:51.15 | Zvpun | is there a process list program for kde? |
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| 19:20.17 | netG | anyone who knows why KDM (kde desktop manager) next boot menu don't work in gentoo??? |
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| 19:30.16 | funky | hi people |
| 19:30.40 | funky | its supposed that kde 3.5.3 wil be released tomorrow, isnt it ? |
| 19:30.59 | pinotree | no |
| 19:31.08 | funky | :( |
| 19:31.22 | funky | pinotree: is known the relase date? |
| 19:31.27 | pinotree | tomorrow will be tagged the sources, but the release date will be in 7-10 days |
| 19:31.34 | funky | oh, ok |
| 19:32.09 | WindowsUninstall | funky, http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html |
| 19:32.16 | funky | WindowsUninstall: thx |
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| 19:46.51 | jhutchins | Renacor: Use vi as the editor? |
| 19:47.42 | Renacor | nm figured it out :) |
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| 19:58.46 | mcollen | hello |
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| 20:03.03 | Armi^ | hi all. Is there somebody here that bought the Medion TV/Radio card at the Aldi supermarket in Holland or Germany? I would like to know if it is fully supported by Linux/Gentoo. |
| 20:03.37 | doktoreas | guys how can i remove the address in the konqueror address bar? |
| 20:04.52 | pinotree | Ctrl+L |
| 20:06.15 | doktoreas | pinotree: the old stored ones... |
| 20:06.28 | pinotree | ah |
| 20:06.40 | pinotree | you spoke about "address", not "old addresses" ;) |
| 20:07.04 | dikatlon | amarok irc script test |
| 20:07.05 | pinotree | right click on a location bar -> erase history |
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| 20:07.35 | doktoreas | pinotree: thank you very much |
| 20:08.11 | pinotree | doktoreas: or also kcontrol -> security & privacy -> privacy |
| 20:09.35 | dikatlon | Mp3:Polyarnaya zvezda - Dlya tebya |
| 20:09.46 | dikatlon | Amarok Plays Mp3 Song:Polyarnaya zvezda - Dlya tebya |
| 20:09.55 | dikatlon | sry for spamming |
| 20:09.58 | dikatlon | gonna leave this channel |
| 20:10.09 | dikatlon | not the right place to debug amarok scripts :=) |
| 20:10.38 | pinotree | dikatlon: i would spam in #amarok :D |
| 20:10.54 | dikatlon | pinotree: indeed :=] |
| 20:10.58 | dikatlon | bye |
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| 20:34.26 | styx-tdo | hi, how can i add something like fcp://xxx to open with a specified application? |
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| 20:36.04 | thiago | create the fcp.protocol file |
| 20:36.30 | thiago | I'm sure you can find the other .protocol files to see the format. You'll want to have Exec=your_application %u |
| 20:36.54 | StevenR | thiago: is stuff like this documented anywhere? |
| 20:37.10 | thiago | the format is of the Desktop Entry Specification |
| 20:37.17 | thiago | but only KDE uses desktop files for that purpose |
| 20:37.52 | Dhraakellian | okaaaay... where did my widget styles go? |
| 20:38.07 | Dhraakellian | I seem to only have the defaults and those I installed separately |
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| 20:38.40 | StevenR | Dhraakellian: maybe they were eaten by a bear? |
| 20:39.30 | styx-tdo | wtf is kio? |
| 20:39.41 | pinotree | Kde Input Output |
| 20:39.56 | styx-tdo | thats not what i want, right= |
| 20:40.31 | Dhraakellian | kioslaves let KDE apps do things such as accessing remote files transparently |
| 20:40.47 | styx-tdo | no, thats not what i want ^^ |
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| 20:41.21 | oGALAXYo | styx-tdo: you can change the mime types |
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| 20:43.01 | styx-tdo | does kde need to be restarted after changin |
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| 20:43.07 | styx-tdo | the xxx.protocol file? |
| 20:43.18 | oGALAXYo | no |
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| 20:43.31 | styx-tdo | damn.then it doesnt work. |
| 20:44.16 | styx-tdo | i did set it in /usr/share/services |
| 20:44.49 | styx-tdo | created firstclass.fcp /the link is firstclass://..... orrr fcp://.... |
| 20:45.14 | styx-tdo | with exec=/opt/firstclass/fcc %u |
| 20:45.14 | styx-tdo | protocol=fcp |
| 20:46.29 | oGALAXYo | why dont you add a new network resource to your desktop ? |
| 20:46.43 | styx-tdo | oGALAXYo: elaborate please |
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| 20:46.51 | uein | hi |
| 20:46.56 | oGALAXYo | why ? its all written in manuals already. |
| 20:47.06 | uein | I clicked in the shell where says "hide menu bar" |
| 20:47.10 | uein | now I want it back |
| 20:47.15 | uein | how can I put it back? |
| 20:47.15 | uein | .x |
| 20:47.17 | styx-tdo | ok. can you give me keywords for a search? |
| 20:47.55 | oGALAXYo | styx-tdo: hold |
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| 20:48.31 | styx-tdo | k |
| 20:48.50 | uein | I need the menubar for this shell |
| 20:48.55 | uein | how can I put it again |
| 20:49.05 | pinotree | uein: Ctrl+M |
| 20:49.20 | pinotree | uein: or right click on the console -> showe menu bar |
| 20:49.20 | uein | nothing happende |
| 20:49.31 | uein | oh |
| 20:49.32 | uein | =) |
| 20:49.33 | uein | thanks |
| 20:49.34 | uein | .x |
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| 20:49.50 | pinotree | >.< |
| 20:50.31 | oGALAXYo | styx-tdo: http://www.novell.com/documentation/nld/index.html?page=/documentation/nld/userguide_kde/data/bstjar7.html |
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| 20:51.03 | oGALAXYo | http://www.novell.com/documentation/nld/index.html?page=/documentation/nld/userguide_kde/data/bstjar7.html |
| 20:51.06 | oGALAXYo | try this |
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| 20:54.37 | styx-tdo | oGALAXYo: noo luck. i have no service:// and cant see how to add anything. but i'll find out |
| 20:55.36 | oGALAXYo | you sure you have kde ? |
| 20:56.36 | styx-tdo | yep. fyi i use linux for quite a while, just new to GUI |
| 20:57.04 | hacosta | i have an external monitor and use xinerama.. is ther a way to run 2 different DE in each monitor? |
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| 20:59.56 | styx-tdo | oGALAXYo: i have remote, settings, applications and so on with :/, but no serivice as in the screenshot |
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| 21:08.06 | marccollin | hi, i have a little problem to build a program |
| 21:08.14 | marccollin | i get: checking for kde-config... not found |
| 21:08.14 | marccollin | configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found! |
| 21:08.14 | marccollin | Please check whether you installed KDE correctly. |
| 21:08.22 | marccollin | does kde-config in a variable? |
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| 21:08.25 | rockdonus | hello |
| 21:08.36 | rockdonus | in konsole i have to tap ´ twice for it to show up |
| 21:08.40 | rockdonus | how do i get this to not happen? |
| 21:08.42 | rockdonus | background info |
| 21:08.51 | rockdonus | i was messing with dvorak and us loadkeys a few days ago |
| 21:09.02 | rockdonus | so loadkeys -d a few seconds ago fixed the command line issue |
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| 21:09.38 | rockdonus | how to fix the kde issue now? |
| 21:09.46 | rockdonus | it happens with ^ and ´ |
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| 21:11.49 | rockdonus | oh argh |
| 21:11.54 | rockdonus | setxkbmap did it |
| 21:12.55 | styx-tdo | n8 n8 |
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| 21:38.00 | bunghole_ | le de da |
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| 21:39.10 | pinotree | no need to be blasphemious |
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| 21:45.04 | g0dchild | Hi, when i use the XIM for Maldives' script (dv_MV) on any K-app, they seem to crash within a minute or two |
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| 21:49.02 | litb | hi all! |
| 21:49.05 | litb | how can i set the users list of KDM transparent when using theme? |
| 21:49.11 | TheFuzzball | hello, I have had something really strange happen (that has to do with KDE :)) I was editing my menu (kmenuedit) I created a folder called "Settings & Utilities", it had Adept Konsole and about 6 other apps (that are in that catagory), now the problem is... the folder "Settings & Utilities" is not on my menu (of sorts) when I click the menu button it comes up with the menu (without the newly created folder in) but I have told my menu to show the "setti |
| 21:49.12 | TheFuzzball | ngs" option that is below Actions, so when I go into Settings, all the normal Kcontrol stuff is in there, but Settings and Utilities is there too!, when I ran Kcontrol I saw... |
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| 21:50.09 | litb | like in this theme...: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39575&PHPSESSID=dcb6876bfa9a579916d01e6991906302 |
| 21:51.26 | TheFuzzball | Appearance & Themes, Desktop, Internet & Network, KDE Components, Peripherals, Regional & Accessibility, Security & Privace, Settings & Utilities, Sound & Multimedia, System Administration |
| 21:51.39 | TheFuzzball | how do I fix this? and how did I do it? |
| 21:52.24 | Blissex | TheFuzzball: he 'Settings' menu perhaps is not a menu.... |
| 21:52.25 | PCGenie | Nice theme.... |
| 21:53.15 | TheFuzzball | Blissex, no, it lists all the Kcontrol stuff, and I've managed to add "Settings & Utilities" to Kcontrol |
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| 21:54.12 | Blissex | TheFuzzball: thats a bit of a miracle perhaps... But I haven't looked much at that... |
| 21:54.52 | TheFuzzball | itis frickin' amazing, all I did was add a folder to kmenuedit save and it wasn't there... |
| 21:55.06 | TheFuzzball | ...I go into settings and there it blooming is |
| 21:55.15 | TheFuzzball | what is going on? |
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| 22:03.46 | sizaint | is there a way to do a 'nested' login inside of kde? |
| 22:05.46 | Blissex | sizaint: 'kdesu'? 'vncserver'/'vnc'? 'Xnest'? |
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| 22:07.05 | sizaint | Blissex, Xnest |
| 22:07.46 | sizaint | that will allow to kde desktops right? |
| 22:07.49 | sizaint | two* |
| 22:09.57 | Psypointer | <- wanna have kde |
| 22:09.58 | Psypointer | 4 |
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| 22:10.01 | Psypointer | :S |
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| 22:13.23 | Shirakawasuna | hrm....#k3b is empty :( |
| 22:13.59 | Shirakawasuna | I'm getting a "malformed URL" error when I open k3b, and it doesn't recognize mime types when I copy them from konqueror (although other than that it appears to work) |
| 22:14.35 | Shirakawasuna | it seems that all of the file handling/navigation is broken. what is interesting is that I recompiled everything *everything* and after that it worked fine, but konqueror didn't - it had similar problems. |
| 22:15.17 | Shirakawasuna | now this is after recently switching from kde monolithic to kde split ebuilds, so I'm thinking I may want another package or something along those lines |
| 22:16.51 | lostson | personally IMHO thats what you get for using those goofy split ebuilds |
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| 22:21.55 | Shirakawasuna | ? |
| 22:22.06 | Shirakawasuna | it's significantly less goofy than the other way |
| 22:22.17 | Shirakawasuna | plus my laptop made the transition beautifully :) |
| 22:22.19 | Shirakawasuna | and k3b works on that |
| 22:23.42 | Shirakawasuna | less packages = less things to break |
| 22:24.05 | lostson | well its a personal choice and im glad it worked out for you but ive been through the split ebuild mess and will never go back |
| 22:24.13 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 22:24.23 | Shirakawasuna | you'll be using meta or 3rd-party ebuilds, then |
| 22:24.35 | Shirakawasuna | kde4 won't have monolithic packages |
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| 22:25.23 | Shirakawasuna | I'm not trying to prosthelytize, but if you want to attempt switching to split ebuilds I'd be glad to help |
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| 22:29.40 | Sho_ | (Note that 3.5.3 will be out soon, which may provide a good opportunity to switch from the monolithics to the splits) |
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| 22:32.06 | Shirakawasuna | cool! |
| 22:32.13 | Shirakawasuna | 3.5.3 on the kde side or gentoo side? |
| 22:32.17 | somekool | Sho_: do you know if the final kopete 0.12 will have the libjingle updated ? (0.3+) ? |
| 22:32.37 | Shirakawasuna | as in, is kde making the release or is it a massive bugfix/stable release on the gentoo side? |
| 22:34.08 | joel | Amarok Plays: Piet Blank Live on N-Joy Radio (Lounge)-2 BITRATE(192) |
| 22:34.14 | Sho_ | somekool: No idea, sorry |
| 22:34.30 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: On the KDE side, but Gentoo is usually quick to import the new versions ;) |
| 22:34.48 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: ah, darn. I like staying w/ my stable stuff :) |
| 22:35.00 | Sho_ | somekool: You might want to seek out some Kopete developers in #kopete |
| 22:35.02 | dikatlon | Amarok Plays: C-Bool House Baby (Verano Mix) BITRATE(236) |
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| 22:35.12 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Well, Gentoo is planning to stabelize KDE 3.5 pretty soon now too though |
| 22:35.13 | bwelmers | someone here running kde on freebsd? |
| 22:35.14 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: But it will have less bugs so it will hopefully be stable sooner |
| 22:35.29 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Here's the metabug for KDE 3.5 stabilization: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132213 |
| 22:35.46 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: well, kde 3.4 is pretty sweet, so I'm in no rush. Although 3.5, 4 look great :) |
| 22:36.02 | Shirakawasuna | thanks Sho_ |
| 22:36.06 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Yeah, I'm assuming Gentoo will stabilize KDE 3.5.3 a few weeks after 3.5.3 hits the tree in ~arch |
| 22:36.17 | bwelmers | or anyone else have/had problems with anoying gam_server? |
| 22:36.20 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: So maybe in late June |
| 22:36.25 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: fun |
| 22:37.09 | Shirakawasuna | WAY better than windows. |
| 22:37.24 | dikatlon | Amarok Plays: DJ Dikatlon DANCE Remastered BITRATE(160) |
| 22:37.31 | Shirakawasuna | imo gnome is about even in.....gui-ness |
| 22:38.02 | dikatlon | Yeah amarok scripting with python+dcop is awesome! |
| 22:38.06 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: As for the KDE side, KDE 3.5.3 will be tagged in the source code repository on May 23rd, after which tarballs will be rolled and released to testers and distro people, and if everything goes smooth, it will be released about a week after the tagging |
| 22:38.26 | Shirakawasuna | hey, that's tomorrow :) |
| 22:38.31 | Sho_ | yeah :-) |
| 22:38.35 | dikatlon | What I like best about Kde is ioslaves, kparts and so on - all the things that is mentionend in the "why kde rules" article - is perfectly describing kde |
| 22:38.44 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: are you a dev? |
| 22:39.13 | Sho_ | KDE 3.5.3 is special in that the feature freeze that is usually maintained for point releases has been lifted a little seeing as there won't be a KDE 3.6, so KDE 3.5.3 introduces several new features in some apps |
| 22:39.28 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: yeah |
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| 22:40.23 | adamt | when is 3.5.3 "hitting the shelves"? |
| 22:40.27 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: cool. Thanks for your contribution |
| 22:40.37 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: I really need to learn how to program/give some $ |
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| 22:41.10 | adamt | Shirakawasuna: you could also "just" write documentation, translate.. etc.. that sort of stuff |
| 22:41.17 | Sho_ | adamt: 'bout a week after the tagging tomorrow, provided no trouble turns up during the testing of tarballs |
| 22:41.27 | Sho_ | adamt: It's a bit flexible :) |
| 22:41.32 | adamt | Sho_: cool |
| 22:41.35 | Shirakawasuna | that's true, I could add to the wiki or something |
| 22:41.59 | Shirakawasuna | but I think $ would probably help, too |
| 22:42.06 | adamt | yeah yeah, eta +/- a somedays doesn't hurt |
| 22:42.23 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: new features + apps? |
| 22:42.28 | adamt | Shirakawasuna: you could buy shiny new laptops for all KDE contributers =) |
| 22:42.45 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 22:42.48 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: Yeah, translation, documentation, art, promotional materials, or even just helping users with their problems in here - there are many non-coding ways to contribute to KDE, and in many of them we are in fact in dire need :) |
| 22:42.58 | Shirakawasuna | yes, with my $8/hour part-time job :) |
| 22:43.09 | Shirakawasuna | ooh, I could do translation |
| 22:43.22 | adamt | Shirakawasuna: you could also confirm bugs on bugzila and stuff like that |
| 22:43.31 | Shirakawasuna | indeed, I feel like I contribute quite a bit back to gentoo in #gentoo |
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| 22:44.26 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: No new apps in 3.5.3, but several new features for existing apps. That's uncommon for a point release, as they're usually bugfix-only, i.e. are in a state called "feature freeze". But since there won't be a 3.6, that was cautiously lifted a little. |
| 22:44.43 | Shirakawasuna | cool |
| 22:44.57 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: I.e. new features were allowed to be added if they successfully got through a longer peer-review and testing process. |
| 22:45.03 | adamt | Sho_: any exciting features? |
| 22:45.11 | Shirakawasuna | and KDE 4 beta won't be out for 6+ months, right? |
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| 22:45.18 | Shirakawasuna | or even tentatively alpha |
| 22:45.37 | Sho_ | adamt: Author support in aKregator is pretty significant IMO |
| 22:45.48 | Shirakawasuna | that is pretty great |
| 22:46.05 | Sho_ | And the KDE startup time has been significantly decreased, i.e. KDE login will be faster now |
| 22:46.15 | adamt | now, that's nice. |
| 22:46.35 | Sho_ | KAlarm has seen some new DCOP features, and KMail has something called "Folder quick filing", don't know much about that tho' ;) |
| 22:46.49 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 22:46.51 | adamt | Shirakawasuna: the good thing about blogs is that everybody can publish their thoughts on the internet.. the bad thing about blogs is that everybody does it |
| 22:46.57 | StevenR | so 3.5.3 comes out...then what happens? We wait for the 1st kde4 release? |
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| 22:47.20 | Shirakawasuna | adamt: yes. And it's apparent that everyone is stupid :) |
| 22:47.20 | adamt | StevenR: no, 3.5.4 =) |
| 22:47.30 | Sho_ | Lubos Lunak, the one responsible for the KDE startup time improvements, has a system that performs a KDE startup in about four seconds with warm disk caches :-) |
| 22:47.32 | StevenR | but will there be a 3.5.4? |
| 22:47.48 | adamt | warm disk caches? |
| 22:47.51 | adamt | StevenR: yes |
| 22:48.00 | Sho_ | StevenR: That's likely, yes |
| 22:48.06 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: hehe |
| 22:48.11 | StevenR | adamt: yeah, you take out the cache chips and warm them in hot water first |
| 22:48.18 | pinotree | it's already in kde 3.5.3 |
| 22:48.20 | Shirakawasuna | Sho_: mine doesn't take very long, actually. I'd say about 10 second |
| 22:48.29 | adamt | l10n-people was talking about 3.5.4 as a sure fact a short while ago |
| 22:48.35 | StevenR | i see |
| 22:48.42 | Sho_ | adamt: You know, when the data is in the hard drive cache already (you can't really benchmark software-side speed improvements when the bottleneck is the hard drive searching around for the data) |
| 22:48.44 | pinotree | adamt: it's already scheduled |
| 22:48.55 | pinotree | http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html |
| 22:48.56 | adamt | Sho_: okay |
| 22:49.00 | pinotree | July 24th, 2006: Tagging KDE 3.5.4 |
| 22:49.22 | adamt | pinotree: i'm not the one asking questions :P |
| 22:49.48 | pinotree | adamt: almost sleep time, sorry :P |
| 22:49.58 | adamt | pinotree: i know the feeling |
| 22:50.15 | Sho_ | pinotree's right ... time to sleep ;) |
| 22:50.18 | Sho_ | g'night guys |
| 22:50.24 | pinotree | night Sho_ |
| 22:50.28 | adamt | g'night Sho_, happy hacking |
| 22:50.51 | Shirakawasuna | bye Sho_ |
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| 22:58.03 | gemidjy | spamargh |
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| 22:58.46 | illogical | http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=183505&cid=15156411 |
| 23:00.39 | Shirakawasuna | haha |
| 23:00.46 | Shirakawasuna | dork humor = teh best |
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| 23:09.56 | vvizard | I was wondering something about the dbus/HAL "storage media" function in KDE. Is it possible to specifiy more "triggers" than the default ones? (mounted camera, unmounted camera, etc) ? Like for example making a specific trigger-function that will only execute if a _specific_ (according to udev) device is inserted? For example, I want some special actions available on the Microdrive I use in my camera, that should not apply to all other removabl |
| 23:13.05 | frb-work | someone told me I can create a folder of application launchers and put it on the panel |
| 23:13.10 | frb-work | how do I put it on the panel? |
| 23:13.58 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: so you want something you can click on that will be like a mini kmenu? |
| 23:14.04 | frb-work | yes |
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| 23:14.23 | frb-work | a "drawer" of launchers per se to store my remote desktop connections |
| 23:14.26 | vvizard | Right-click panel -> Add application to panel -> browse to right category, and click: Add this menu |
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| 23:14.51 | frb-work | vvizard: it's not a proper menu, it's just a folder of .desktop files that launch things |
| 23:15.05 | vvizard | Oh |
| 23:15.08 | vvizard | Sorry |
| 23:15.22 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: I can't seem to find something like that, but I'm on kde 3.4.3 |
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| 23:15.53 | jahshua | would anyone know which 'section' of kde that k3b would be? i am looking here -> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/OpenBSD/3.9/packages/i386/ |
| 23:16.11 | Shirakawasuna | media, if it exists |
| 23:16.17 | frb-work | for rpm the Group is Productivity/Multimedia/CD/Record |
| 23:16.35 | jahshua | so multimedia |
| 23:16.38 | vvizard | frb-work: If you take the folder you got, with the .directory files inside, and just drag it from konqueror to the panel you get the options: "Add as file manager URL" and "Add as quick browser". Could that last one be what you want? |
| 23:16.41 | jahshua | hmm i thought i already got it.. |
| 23:16.43 | jahshua | ok |
| 23:17.06 | frb-work | vvizard: probably |
| 23:17.16 | Shirakawasuna | sorry frb-work. You may be able to find a 3rd-party applet for it, though |
| 23:17.25 | vvizard | frb-work: Try it. I get that option here at least. KDE-3.5.2 |
| 23:17.31 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: I personally use a dock, although that may not be the functionality you're looking for |
| 23:17.33 | frb-work | k, I run 3.5.2 on both my machines |
| 23:17.39 | frb-work | I don't like OSX dock |
| 23:18.21 | frb-work | I have a 24px kicker on the left, but I have 4 remote desktop sessions I want launchers for, but I don't want to clutter the kicker itself |
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| 23:19.31 | vvizard | frb-work: If you put those launchers inside a directory, and drag that directory to the panel, and select "Add as quick browser" you will only get one icon on the panel. And when you click it, a sub-menu will fold out, and let you choose the content from the folder |
| 23:19.55 | vvizard | Much like how the regular "K" menu works |
| 23:20.09 | frb-work | that's what I want :) |
| 23:20.16 | Shirakawasuna | cool |
| 23:20.25 | vvizard | Well go ahead then :) |
| 23:21.10 | frb-work | now I just need icons so I can tell the 3 KRDPs apart |
| 23:21.10 | vvizard | Hope it works out the way you want it to |
| 23:21.11 | frb-work | 3 RDP, 1 NX |
| 23:21.11 | Shirakawasuna | plasma's going to be cool |
| 23:21.35 | vvizard | Anyone got any plasma screenshots except those on the official plasma homepage? |
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| 23:22.15 | illogical | plasma already IS cool. |
| 23:22.31 | frb-work | I want plamsa, and gl, and prettiness, and for it to not look like a bloody mac |
| 23:22.45 | illogical | how can you not think that superheated energy, weilded by man no less, is not already cool. |
| 23:22.50 | vvizard | =) |
| 23:23.25 | illogical | oh... wait... it's not cool. it's hotness. nvm. |
| 23:23.29 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: what's so bad about macs beside the fanboys? |
| 23:23.47 | frb-work | I personally find them inconsistent, and ugly |
| 23:24.00 | illogical | OMG! I love my MacBook PRO! |
| 23:24.02 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 23:24.04 | illogical | It like, WOW. ROCKS! |
| 23:24.18 | Shirakawasuna | inconsistent? |
| 23:24.29 | illogical | It burns me at night when I'm watching porn with it since it gets so hot. |
| 23:24.50 | Shirakawasuna | which is why I don't buy 1st-gen technology unless I have to :) |
| 23:24.59 | illogical | But I'm sure Steve (yes, we're on a first name basis), I'm sure Steve made it do that for a reason. |
| 23:25.05 | frb-work | I don't see how Brushed Metal matches Bubbled Buttons |
| 23:25.31 | illogical | It's artisitc. You geeks wouldn't understand. |
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| 23:25.57 | Shirakawasuna | illogical: you 'know' Steve? |
| 23:26.13 | Shirakawasuna | illogical: if so, is it true that he was a complete ass to the Woz? |
| 23:26.36 | Shirakawasuna | illogical: it's not understanding that's the problem, it's appreciating |
| 23:26.54 | n0yd | I want to set up some sort of keyboard shortcut, so I can use the volume wheel on the side of my laptop, I got this working quite easily with gnome and the keyboard shortcuts thing, how can I go about doing this in kde? |
| 23:27.07 | Shirakawasuna | I personally like how Macs look, but I can understand how you could dislike it as well |
| 23:27.24 | illogical | I used to not like them. Then OS X came out :-D |
| 23:27.40 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: go to kcontrol and then Regional & Accessibility |
| 23:27.55 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: KHotKeys is what you're looking for, I believe |
| 23:27.57 | n0yd | I dont see volume shortcuts in there |
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| 23:28.12 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: you need to create your own |
| 23:28.36 | n0yd | I have no idea how to do that, I used to know how to do it from a terminal |
| 23:28.51 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: it's kinda self-explanatory, especially if you look at their examples |
| 23:28.58 | frb-work | it's all dcop |
| 23:28.59 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: I've personally never done it because I use xbindkeys |
| 23:29.02 | Renze | you could always create shortcuts for master volume in kmix |
| 23:29.16 | Shirakawasuna | true |
| 23:29.21 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: go with what Renze suggested |
| 23:29.30 | n0yd | I'm just looking for a easy way to do it, I think I use xbindkeys before |
| 23:29.38 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: how is os X inconsistent? |
| 23:29.43 | n0yd | I don't know how to do either way anymore, I forget how |
| 23:29.52 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: the kmix way is the easiest |
| 23:29.57 | frb-work | Shirakawasuna: it's inconsistent with the rest of my desktop on linux |
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| 23:30.04 | n0yd | I have no idea on how to do that though |
| 23:30.04 | vvizard | n0yd: First off, you should check if your X-server actually have the buttons mapped. You can find out that by just finding an application and choose the "settings -> configure shortcuts" and try to map those media-buttons to a shortcut.. If that works, it's a piece of cake. If not, you need to set up an ~/.Xmodmap file |
| 23:30.23 | Renze | n0yd: open kmix, right click on Master, select Configure Global Shortcuts |
| 23:30.45 | frb-work | I tried baghira once, and it made me sick |
| 23:30.46 | n0yd | whats the little thing i can run in console to see what the key presses are? |
| 23:30.51 | frb-work | xev |
| 23:30.53 | n0yd | ya |
| 23:30.54 | n0yd | thanks |
| 23:31.02 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: well it's not exactly inconsistent then, is it? |
| 23:31.15 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: you can't very well expect it to be consistent with an entirely different OS |
| 23:31.16 | frb-work | Shirakawasuna: it is when someone grafts it on top of my desktop |
| 23:31.28 | frb-work | Shirakawasuna: which is why I said I don't want plasma to look like it |
| 23:31.44 | Shirakawasuna | frb-work: meh, that's entirely looks, though.... |
| 23:32.15 | Shirakawasuna | I thought you mean it was inconsistent in how it operated :) |
| 23:32.22 | n0yd | Renze, I cant do it like that, I need to enter the actual keycode, because it's not really a key |
| 23:32.32 | Shirakawasuna | which is strange, because imo it's the most consistent of the three (windows, mac, linux) |
| 23:32.33 | n0yd | It's keycode 160, 174 and 176 |
| 23:32.37 | Renze | n0yd: use xmodmap to make it a real key |
| 23:33.02 | Shirakawasuna | it's guacamole time! |
| 23:33.15 | n0yd | Meh, what a pita, gnome just picked it up for me when I told it to watch what buttons I press |
| 23:33.29 | illogical | A dark day for dubya: http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=180963&cid=14975266 |
| 23:33.46 | vvizard | n0yd: Just map it through your ~/.Xmodmap. The syntax for the file is like this: "keycode XXX = XF86AudioLower" (for example) where XXX is the keycode for the button |
| 23:34.22 | n0yd | ahh ya |
| 23:34.26 | vvizard | n0yd: Check this one out, it's great: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/04/mapping-unsupported-keys-with-xmodmap.html |
| 23:34.51 | n0yd | vvizard, iirc there is a easier way, where I can just use a commanmd in the terminal to set it |
| 23:34.59 | n0yd | rather than setting it in xmodmap |
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| 23:35.24 | n0yd | If only I had the memory capacity to remember this stuff :-/ |
| 23:35.33 | vvizard | xbindkeys? |
| 23:35.37 | n0yd | ahh ya |
| 23:36.17 | n0yd | How do I use it though "xbindkeys 174 = XF86AudioLower" ? |
| 23:37.12 | vvizard | I dunno. Use xbindkeys for some fancy mouse-button shit. But Xmodmap is really easy. You just put in your keycodes in the file, and they get executed each time your x-server starts |
| 23:37.32 | n0yd | True |
| 23:38.47 | vvizard | heh, I only looked at xbindkeys like two days ago. Got myself a mouse with a whooping twelve buttons on it :P So I use it to configure shortcuts to stuff like "ctrl + mousebutton-11".. Found out that with 12 buttons, and only using the shift+alt+ctrl, I have 36 combinations. I can really start to learn touch-writing on my mouse =D |
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| 23:39.14 | n0yd | Ok what should my xmodmap file look like? |
| 23:39.22 | n0yd | I have to write one from scratch |
| 23:39.42 | vvizard | Do you know how to find the keycodes with xev? |
| 23:39.47 | n0yd | ya |
| 23:39.49 | n0yd | I know that |
| 23:40.47 | vvizard | Ok good. try to find a file on your system named "XKeysymDB" |
| 23:41.13 | n0yd | ok |
| 23:41.15 | vvizard | On my system, it's here: /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB |
| 23:41.16 | n0yd | Got that |
| 23:41.21 | n0yd | Ya same as Arch |
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| 23:42.00 | vvizard | Then you find button-names you want to map to those buttons, search the file for "XF86AudioLowerVolume" |
| 23:42.06 | n0yd | ya |
| 23:42.09 | vvizard | There you have a set of nice media-related names |
| 23:42.29 | n0yd | Ok so what do I make my xmodmap file look like? |
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| 23:42.37 | n0yd | Can you pastebin a example? |
| 23:42.51 | vvizard | So what you really want to do, is map your keycodes to those names.. This is where ~/.Xmodmap comes in. The syntax is like this... (taking XF86AudioLowerVolume as an example) |
| 23:42.58 | n0yd | ya |
| 23:43.10 | vvizard | keycode 129 = XF86AudioLowerVolume |
| 23:43.19 | vvizard | That's the syntax. One line per map |
| 23:43.21 | n0yd | ok simple enough |
| 23:43.38 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: I recommend xbindkeys - easy stuff |
| 23:43.45 | vvizard | When you're done, run "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap" and you are ready to go |
| 23:43.50 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: just get it and read the sample config file |
| 23:43.53 | n0yd | Shirakawasuna, either or, same result |
| 23:44.07 | Shirakawasuna | n0yd: yep, only xbindkeys doesn't change w/ your DE |
| 23:44.49 | n0yd | Crap whats the volume up one? And the volume mute |
| 23:44.53 | n0yd | I forget those |
| 23:44.54 | n0yd | lol |
| 23:45.17 | Renze | XF86AudioRaiseVolume, XF86AudioMute |
| 23:45.19 | n0yd | XF86AudioRaiseVolume |
| 23:45.19 | n0yd | ? |
| 23:45.21 | n0yd | ya |
| 23:46.08 | n0yd | Ok now I run xmodmap .Xmodmap, then restart X? |
| 23:46.13 | Renze | no need |
| 23:46.28 | Renze | just the xmodmap, and the keys are ready |
| 23:46.45 | n0yd | Meh that didnt work |
| 23:46.52 | n0yd | Unless i need to do more now? |
| 23:47.01 | Renze | they should be working |
| 23:47.13 | Renze | try xev again |
| 23:47.14 | n0yd | Do i need to configure kde in some way now? |
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| 23:47.22 | n0yd | I know the keycodes for sure are correct |
| 23:47.24 | n0yd | keycode 174 = XF86AudioLowerVolume |
| 23:47.24 | n0yd | keycode 176 = XF86AudioRaiseVolume |
| 23:47.24 | n0yd | keycode 160 = XF86AudioMute |
| 23:47.43 | Renze | n0yd: try xev and see if it is using the symbols now |
| 23:48.04 | n0yd | yup it shows the keysym link |
| 23:48.16 | Renze | now you can set global shortcuts in kmix |
| 23:48.16 | n0yd | keycode 174 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume) |
| 23:48.22 | n0yd | ok |
| 23:48.41 | Renze | open kmix, right-click on Master, and select Configure Global Shortcuts |
| 23:48.46 | n0yd | ya i got it |
| 23:48.51 | n0yd | Im not that dumb :D |
| 23:49.03 | n0yd | I did it a totally oposite way last time |
| 23:49.19 | vvizard | n0yd: Be aware, that the AudioMute and raise/lower volume, doesn't work on all setups. I use SPDIF-output (optical link) to a stereo-amplifier. And the "master volume" doesn't have any influence on that. |
| 23:49.32 | n0yd | Ya they work fine here |
| 23:49.40 | n0yd | It's just a old laptop |
| 23:50.12 | n0yd | Works mint, thanks vvizard and Renze :) |
| 23:50.13 | vvizard | Guess I have an alsa-issue which can be fixed. But haven't had time to look into it yet :( |
| 23:50.18 | Renze | no problem :) |
| 23:50.29 | vvizard | np |
| 23:50.47 | n0yd | Pissed off though, I couldnt install JUST kmix without kdemultimedia |
| 23:50.51 | n0yd | :( |
| 23:51.34 | Renze | you can in some distros |
| 23:51.53 | vvizard | If kmix was all you needed, you probably wouldn't have to. Just bind the keys directly to control the alsa-mixer instead. That's what I did to make it work with my spdif-output |
| 23:52.37 | n0yd | Ya thats true |
| 23:52.56 | n0yd | Renze, I couldn't get kmix through arch unless I compile myself or used kdemultimedia |
| 23:53.00 | raijin | why do i need kicker? its never going to be run |
| 23:53.08 | raijin | pfft |
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| 23:57.24 | Janitux | !!!! |
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