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| 00:21.05 | mhall | Any DCOP calls I can send to convince the task bar on kicker to refresh itself? It's higgledy-piggledy. |
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| 00:22.06 | qupada | dcop kicker kicker restart ? |
| 00:22.44 | ryanoe | Could someone please help me with a good starting place to building my own blog on a webserver I already have a domain and a website on? http://www.saabvideos.com is the site |
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| 00:24.38 | mhall | qupada: problem is some of them are non-kde tray icons |
| 00:24.49 | mhall | qupada: so that forces them off the tray into seperate windows |
| 00:24.59 | mhall | qupada: really weird; i'm trying to decide about filing a bug |
| 00:25.44 | qupada | ah yeah, i remember gaim doing that... back in the day when i ran gaim |
| 00:26.19 | qupada | i seem to remember if you right click the new taskbar button that is created for the tiny window with the tray icon and click close, it sometimes reattaches to the panel |
| 00:26.30 | qupada | sometimes = more than half the time |
| 00:26.57 | mhall | qupada: mmhmm it did but aMule and azureus don't |
| 00:27.28 | qupada | 1/3 ... is a start |
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| 00:34.47 | rhavenn | can anybody help me figure out why doing sftp://username@hostname in Konqueror doesn't work under FreeBSD..but works great in Gentoo ? |
| 00:35.28 | Renze | missing dependency in freebsd? |
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| 00:37.54 | sizaint | is there a spell checker for kate? |
| 00:37.56 | rhavenn | Renze--> yeah, but on what? all's i ever get is "authentication failed" |
| 00:38.13 | Renze | openssl? (guessing) |
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| 00:40.09 | rhavenn | Renze--> hrrm..i don't think so..openssl is installed and sftp from the command line works fine..it just never prompts me to enter the password..i'll keep looking |
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| 00:51.04 | dori | my timezone is messed up. Locally I am set to Central, but it displays as UTC. How do I make the clock respect my timezone without explicitely setting it? |
| 00:52.02 | luksan | dori: i've had this problem for years on KDE and have never found a solution |
| 00:52.48 | dori | luksan: the thing is it's fine sometimes, but then when I adjust it, it goes back to UTC |
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| 00:53.13 | luksan | dori: yeah, it's weird |
| 00:53.18 | luksan | mine says UTC right now |
| 00:53.24 | luksan | even though the time is right |
| 00:53.28 | Renze | I used to have that problem on redhat... but not since switching to gentoo |
| 00:53.40 | luksan | Renze: i am using gentoo |
| 00:53.46 | Renze | weird |
| 00:54.13 | Renze | and /etc/timezone is correct? |
| 00:55.00 | luksan | actually...now that i look at it no |
| 00:55.02 | qupada | that'll be /etc/localtime on gentoo |
| 00:55.41 | luksan | so i just need to do ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT /etc/localtime? |
| 00:55.41 | Renze | qupada: right, my bad :) |
| 00:57.12 | Renze | I set that when I installed and haven't had to touch it since |
| 00:57.18 | qupada | luksan: i would have thought /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern, but they probably do the same thing |
| 00:57.55 | luksan | qupada: ok i'll do that |
| 00:58.11 | qupada | i only have one timezone to choose from (Pacific/Auckland), so it's not hard to get it right |
| 00:58.21 | Renze | qupada: same as me :) |
| 00:58.25 | luksan | qupada: now what should i put in /etc/timezone? right now it is just a file that says UTC |
| 00:59.13 | Renze | my /etc/timezone contains Pacific/Auckland |
| 00:59.31 | qupada | mine does too |
| 00:59.49 | Renze | luksan: so yours should probably be US/Eastern |
| 00:59.58 | luksan | Renze: yes, md5 sum confirms that the files are the same |
| 01:00.08 | luksan | should i symlink or copy, or does it matter? |
| 01:00.10 | qupada | according to 'equery belongs /etc/timezone', no package owns that file, so it probably doesn't matter if it is there or not |
| 01:00.24 | qupada | either works |
| 01:00.24 | Renze | I think it's there for legacy |
| 01:00.32 | qupada | mine is copied, but symlinking is fine |
| 01:00.58 | luksan | yeah it wouldn't really matter, it's not like they're going to "change" the timezones |
| 01:01.56 | qupada | well they do occaisionally... there was something in the GWN about people in australia getting a extra week of daylight saving due to the commonwealth games, and how to fix the timezone |
| 01:03.06 | luksan | yeah it works |
| 01:03.22 | luksan | my kicker no longer shows a two hour difference between me and Warsaw |
| 01:04.34 | luksan | dori: take note |
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| 01:23.09 | spiderworm_work | hi dad! |
| 01:23.14 | spiderworm_work | i didnt know you IRCed |
| 01:23.21 | dad | spiderworm_work: greetings |
| 01:23.27 | spiderworm_work | ... or even how to use a computer.... |
| 01:24.36 | spiderworm_work | ;) |
| 01:24.41 | dad | spiderworm_work: yea, well redhat5 was challenging, from a dos background, but 6&7 were great. suse10 rocks, and debian is quite stable :) |
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| 01:24.51 | spiderworm_work | XD |
| 01:25.10 | spiderworm_work | and here i always thought my dad was an idiot.... |
| 01:25.23 | Renze | ditto :) |
| 01:25.39 | Renze | my dad is a technophobe |
| 01:26.28 | dad | spiderworm_work: but i have an un-fulfilled need - to setup kdm - (suse10,sax2) to serve a remote session via xdmcp... |
| 01:27.12 | dad | spiderworm_work: and the gui options are all vnc |
| 01:27.27 | dad | spiderworm_work: 1 marrage here, goeing on 19 years |
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| 01:28.27 | spiderworm_work | dad: hmm well i've never served a remote KDM session... unless VNC or KRFB would count.... |
| 01:28.41 | dad | krfb? |
| 01:28.47 | dad | oh! |
| 01:29.11 | dad | kdm doesn't speak xdmcp? |
| 01:29.17 | spiderworm_work | ... whatever kde's framebuffer forwarding & input receiving service is called.... krfb sounds right to me... |
| 01:29.17 | Renze | yes it does |
| 01:29.24 | Renze | you have to enable it in the config file |
| 01:29.49 | dad | Renze: i'll look, thanks :) |
| 01:30.22 | Renze | dad: look for XDMCP=false, and change it to true :) |
| 01:30.51 | Renze | I've never tried xdmcp though |
| 01:31.02 | dad | seems easy - thanks. so much of suse10's gui based, i didn't even look in the config... |
| 01:31.16 | Renze | <-- gentoo |
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| 01:38.47 | dad | now, if i could just figure out how to run a second gdm server - i can conquer the world!!! |
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| 05:17.12 | litage | hey guys, when i'm at the beginning of a line in konsole and i hit backspace, my box makes a system beep rather than playing a sound file through alsa. how can i change this? |
| 05:18.12 | Renze | Settings -> Bell -> System Notification, and be sure to have something set in the system notifications for konsole |
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| 05:21.00 | Renze | and don't forget to Save as Default if you want it to stay |
| 05:22.23 | litage | awesome, thanks Renze. that was too easy :) |
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| 06:54.05 | Gumby | would anyone here happen to know the filename of the gif that displays in the top right corner of konqueror? |
| 06:54.46 | Jejem | Gumby: HELLO ! :) |
| 06:55.03 | Renze | you mean the throbber? |
| 06:55.30 | Gumby | Renze: if thats what the kids are calling it these days :D |
| 06:55.38 | Gumby | lo Jejem |
| 06:56.16 | Renze | kde.png, in the actions folder of your icon theme |
| 06:56.32 | Gumby | cool, thx |
| 06:56.41 | Renze | or in the default theme otherwise |
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| 08:09.03 | eNTi | hi. isi t possible to set a key to a command in kde? i want to set my X86Forward to audacious -f, without the need of having to create a menu item for that sake. |
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| 08:13.50 | xushi | i got a TCP printer on my lab's network of which i can't print to from kde after i just configured it. there are no errors but this in the log. I tHINK it's because i need a user and pass to the network (which i have.. the one i use on the public machines), but not sure if that's an issue or not. http://pastebin.com/697585 |
| 08:14.09 | PhilRod | eNTi: control center -> regional & a11y -> input actions |
| 08:17.02 | eNTi | PhilRod> thx |
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| 08:22.02 | Mizipzor | in amarok, how do i empty my collection? ive moved my musicfiles and now nothing can be played, i need to update it |
| 08:22.30 | Renze | Rescan Collection should fix that |
| 08:22.48 | Renze | under Tools |
| 08:22.57 | Mizipzor | tools>rescan collection doesnt do anything :P |
| 08:23.06 | Mizipzor | all files stay in collection |
| 08:23.15 | Renze | have you changed your settings to point to your collection first? |
| 08:23.17 | xushi | Mizipzor: make sure the new directory is shared |
| 08:23.26 | eNTi | Mizipzor> mysql? |
| 08:24.24 | Mizipzor | xushi, im very new to linux so the music is on a ntfs partition, which ive mounted in a directory which ive chmod'ed to my regular user... |
| 08:24.35 | Mizipzor | if i go into that directory i can play the music directly ... |
| 08:25.18 | eNTi | Mizipzor> did you use mysql for your amarok db? |
| 08:25.28 | Renze | Mizipzor: are you using SQLite or Mysql? |
| 08:25.45 | xushi | Mizipzor: i mean if you go to settings > configure > collection, is the new directory shared there ? |
| 08:26.26 | xushi | anyone got any advice on my printer problem? =/ |
| 08:26.55 | Mizipzor | xushi, i just got configure globalshurtcuts|shortcuts|toolbars|amarok in settings |
| 08:27.09 | xushi | what version of amarok is tht ? |
| 08:27.12 | Mizipzor | eNTi, Renze, i dont know if i use that, i just used the default settings |
| 08:27.20 | Renze | Mizipzor: click on Configure Amarok, then Collection |
| 08:27.37 | Mizipzor | xushi, 1.3.8 |
| 08:27.43 | eNTi | Mizipzor> try to find out and use sqlite |
| 08:27.56 | eNTi | mysql support seemes bugged. at least i had the same error you got. |
| 08:27.56 | xushi | Mizipzor: and give #amarok a try too |
| 08:28.33 | Mizipzor | thanks :) i got it to work now :) |
| 08:28.40 | Mizipzor | afk |
| 08:29.18 | Renze | eNTi: mysql support seems very solid to me |
| 08:29.40 | eNTi | Renze> i had only problems. similar ones which Mizipzor described. |
| 08:29.56 | eNTi | collection wouldn't update nor play. |
| 08:29.57 | Renze | I've been using mysql for amarok for months with no problems at all |
| 08:30.08 | eNTi | good for you |
| 08:30.14 | Renze | and my collection updates fine |
| 08:30.34 | eNTi | mine doesnt and i couldnt find out why after hours of search and talk. |
| 08:30.52 | Renze | I didn't have to do anything special to make it work |
| 08:30.55 | eNTi | so i gave up. too much hassle for something that unimportant. |
| 08:30.57 | Renze | it just worked out of the boxx |
| 08:31.03 | Renze | box* |
| 08:31.24 | eNTi | is kde overwriting keyboard settings from xorg.conf? |
| 08:31.35 | eNTi | all my extra keys stopped working. |
| 08:31.38 | Renze | only if you set it to |
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| 08:32.01 | Renze | using keyboard layouts in kcontrol? |
| 08:32.09 | eNTi | not really. |
| 08:32.30 | Renze | is the box ticked? |
| 08:32.40 | eNTi | yes it was. i've set it. thx. |
| 08:33.14 | Renze | when it's ticked, it will override with whatever you have chosen in that config panel |
| 08:33.35 | eNTi | yeah. stupid thing was ticked and some 104 keyboard was set. |
| 08:33.49 | Renze | yup, I had issues with that too |
| 08:34.08 | eNTi | strange default setting |
| 08:34.27 | Renze | you could submit a bug report :) |
| 08:34.31 | eNTi | nah |
| 08:34.43 | eNTi | i'm doing to much slave labor bug reports. |
| 08:34.49 | eNTi | too many |
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| 08:38.33 | PhilRod | slave labour? |
| 08:38.43 | eNTi | :) |
| 08:39.04 | eNTi | i'm doing too many bug reports. i have better things to do. |
| 08:39.13 | eNTi | studying for example |
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| 08:42.26 | xushi | < lecture.. bbl |
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| 08:57.26 | KLymer | kopete: error while loading shared libraries: libxslt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:57.29 | KLymer | I cannot start Kopete |
| 08:57.33 | KLymer | Help? |
| 08:57.54 | Renze | you need to have libxslt.so.1... did you remove the package that contains it? |
| 08:58.21 | KLymer | Renze: what package contains libxslt.so.1 |
| 08:58.22 | KLymer | ? |
| 08:58.26 | Renze | checking |
| 08:59.09 | Renze | a package called libxslt, funnily enough |
| 09:00.21 | KLymer | ok, thanks |
| 09:00.23 | Renze | your distro might use a different name |
| 09:00.48 | KLymer | I have a Slackware 10.2 |
| 09:00.57 | Renze | then it will be the correct name |
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| 10:09.07 | visik7 | http://www.osweekly.com/ |
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| 10:14.52 | qupada | hax indeed |
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| 10:39.41 | jono | aseigo: ping |
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| 10:48.00 | sorush20 | hi guys just wanted to know if an uninstallation of a package would be performable form the kde menu? |
| 10:48.51 | HamishTPB | sorush20: no - you need to use your distro's tools |
| 10:49.06 | HamishTPB | sorush20: although the tools are possibly accessable via the menu |
| 10:50.39 | sorush20 | HamishTPB: isn't that a good idea? |
| 10:50.53 | HamishTPB | sorush20: yes and no :) |
| 10:51.08 | HamishTPB | sorush20: it *is* good from a user end but writing it... :) |
| 10:51.10 | sorush20 | how about making the kde menu scrollable ? is that possible? |
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| 10:51.28 | HamishTPB | sorush20: no idea on that |
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| 10:52.38 | HamishTPB | sorush20: also the uninstaller thing would not be a KDE feature - it would depend on the distro |
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| 11:01.41 | Cicci0 | hi, anyone has troubles trying to remove msn contacts from kopete? |
| 11:02.00 | Cicci0 | I remove them, then after a logout/login I got them again in list |
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| 11:02.23 | twosouls82 | Cicci0: work like a charm here |
| 11:02.38 | twosouls82 | works* |
| 11:03.04 | Cicci0 | now I updated to 0.11.1, see if it's still a (only mine) problem... |
| 11:03.07 | twosouls82 | Cicci0: what version are you using? |
| 11:03.24 | twosouls82 | Cicci0: I use SVN 0.12 |
| 11:03.45 | Jejem | Cicci0: your previous version was 0.9.x ? |
| 11:04.00 | Cicci0 | previous was stable in kde 3.4.3 |
| 11:04.07 | Jejem | 0.9.1 i think ... |
| 11:04.16 | Jejem | and i had the same problem with a 0.9.x ... |
| 11:04.23 | Jejem | can't remember exactly, but a 0.9 branch :D |
| 11:04.35 | Jejem | with 0.11 it's ok |
| 11:04.41 | twosouls82 | :) selective memory, that's good Jeje, |
| 11:04.54 | twosouls82 | Jejem |
| 11:04.55 | twosouls82 | :s |
| 11:05.15 | Jejem | twosouls82: have a lot of problems IRL ... |
| 11:05.22 | Jejem | so... 0.9.1 or 0.9.2 ... it's the same :D |
| 11:06.26 | twosouls82 | Jejem: what a shame to hear that :( |
| 11:06.38 | Jejem | :) thx... |
| 11:07.15 | Jejem | shitty life... xD |
| 11:07.33 | twosouls82 | lol, amen to that :) |
| 11:08.00 | Jejem | shitty girlfriend who doesn't understand anything ... |
| 11:08.36 | Jejem | she goes away after one year and a half... "i think i dunno what i want" ... |
| 11:08.40 | Jejem | REALLY? o_O ... |
| 11:08.55 | twosouls82 | :S |
| 11:09.00 | Jejem | am am am am am am am ^^' |
| 11:09.07 | twosouls82 | better now, than over another 1.5 years |
| 11:09.15 | Jejem | now ? ... |
| 11:09.30 | Jejem | cryin' every night ... |
| 11:09.35 | Jejem | sleepin' troubles |
| 11:09.41 | Jejem | nightmares... |
| 11:09.45 | Jejem | depressive ... :s |
| 11:09.58 | twosouls82 | damnit, you really gave yourself to her :( |
| 11:10.11 | Jejem | yes... |
| 11:10.37 | Jejem | when i was with her, my life was in the background... |
| 11:10.43 | Jejem | only her... |
| 11:10.47 | Jejem | and now... 'm alone :s |
| 11:11.08 | twosouls82 | Jejem: that is a little scary to make yourself that small, dude |
| 11:11.33 | Jejem | she had some problems... |
| 11:11.42 | Jejem | 've made everything to help her solve that ... |
| 11:11.47 | twosouls82 | Jejem: as long as you have yourself with you, the rest will come with time |
| 11:11.58 | Jejem | 1.5 years to solve her problems ... |
| 11:12.02 | Jejem | now it's done... and "bye bye" |
| 11:12.11 | twosouls82 | Jejem: you remind me of me when I was a little younger (not that I am that old ;) ) |
| 11:12.19 | Jejem | 'm 20 |
| 11:12.33 | twosouls82 | 3 years is a little ;) |
| 11:12.40 | Jejem | ;) |
| 11:13.00 | Jejem | 'feel bad... |
| 11:13.25 | twosouls82 | Jejem: If she is the real deal, your paths will cross again, believe me |
| 11:13.42 | twosouls82 | and it will go without to much input of you both |
| 11:14.20 | Jejem | she is... the one |
| 11:14.23 | Jejem | i'm sure of that... |
| 11:14.43 | Jejem | but... her... i don't think she knows... |
| 11:14.52 | Jejem | (my english is good ? 'cause i'm french :D) |
| 11:15.19 | twosouls82 | Jejem, you make some real French grammar faults, but it is good ;) |
| 11:15.31 | twosouls82 | Like I make Dutch grammar faults :P |
| 11:15.56 | Jejem | lol |
| 11:16.13 | Jejem | if you can understand me, it's the only thing that count :D |
| 11:17.23 | Jejem | *Pont Aeri - The Resident Session* |
| 11:18.31 | twosouls82 | does someone have an PocketPC and got it to automount in KDE? |
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| 11:19.14 | Jejem | don't have, sry |
| 11:20.51 | eNTi | hi. for some unkown reason my pc does a poweroff without showing me the other options, if i choose "Offer shutdown options" and NOT "Confirm logout". the offer shutdown options are just ignored if "Confirm logout" is unchecked. is this a wanted behavoir? |
| 11:22.00 | Jejem | just check "confirm logout" to have options ? :D |
| 11:23.05 | twosouls82 | Jejem: how do I make myself member of a room? |
| 11:23.33 | eNTi | Jejem> i dont want to confirm anything. after all, i'm not using windows, forcing me to confirm every mouse move. |
| 11:23.41 | Jejem | lol |
| 11:23.45 | Jejem | eNTi: mm |
| 11:23.46 | gemidjy | aMule's systray icon kills KWin |
| 11:23.50 | Jejem | i'm checking ... |
| 11:24.14 | twosouls82 | eNTi: where do you have that checkbox? |
| 11:24.53 | eNTi | twosouls82> Settings > KDE Components > Session Manager |
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| 11:26.04 | Jejem | mm |
| 11:26.16 | Jejem | eNTi: do the same on my KDE ... |
| 11:26.34 | eNTi | Jejem> so it's another bug? |
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| 11:26.44 | Jejem | i think |
| 11:26.45 | Jejem | re twosouls82 :) |
| 11:26.50 | eNTi | alright. thx. |
| 11:26.51 | twosouls82 | :) |
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| 11:27.17 | twosouls82 | no options indeed, so that should be an option group, instead of two checkboxes |
| 11:28.20 | twosouls82 | "DO NOT tell people to delete ~/.kde, EVER!", isn't KDE capable of fixing such a cleanup? |
| 11:29.06 | Jejem | lol |
| 11:29.10 | qupada | twosouls82: of course it is, you'll get the kpersonalizer wizard on next login |
| 11:29.10 | Jejem | it isn't :) |
| 11:29.22 | qupada | the problem is the removal of every setting kde had stored |
| 11:29.39 | Jejem | think a daily backup of ~/.kde should be done . |
| 11:29.44 | apokryphos | .......and possibly lost mail and other such things |
| 11:30.22 | twosouls82 | Jejem: you can do that with a script at logon easily |
| 11:30.27 | PhilRod | ~dot-kde |
| 11:30.29 | apt | *Don't* remove ~/.kde: as well as your personal settings, it contains your address book and may contain your email. Rename the directory and restart KDE instead |
| 11:30.59 | Jejem | twosouls82: should be made by KDE :D |
| 11:31.16 | twosouls82 | haha lol PhilRod, I didn't take removing that literally |
| 11:32.52 | PhilRod | :-) |
| 11:32.53 | gemidjy | http://lugola.net/galleries/marathon/ |
| 11:32.56 | PhilRod | !lunch |
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| 11:33.44 | twosouls82 | PhilRod, enjoy your meal |
| 11:34.33 | Jejem | lol twosouls82 :) |
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| 11:34.39 | dpy | hi guys |
| 11:34.47 | Jejem | hi guy |
| 11:34.55 | twosouls82 | or gal |
| 11:34.59 | dpy | does anyone know an XML tree viewer for KDE ? |
| 11:35.22 | dpy | one that doesn't eat all my memory (firefox is too inefficient) |
| 11:35.43 | Jejem | hehe "Kxmlviewer" !!! :D |
| 11:35.48 | twosouls82 | dpy KXMLEditor? |
| 11:35.52 | Jejem | should be nice :D |
| 11:35.52 | Jejem | lol |
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| 11:38.34 | xushi | my email filters arn't working on kmail =/ not sure what i'm doing wrong. Here's an example: "From" "equals" "some@email.com" --> "move into folder" "local foldres/inbox/myfolder" |
| 11:39.11 | twosouls82 | xushi, screenie? |
| 11:39.21 | xushi | twosouls82: of what in particular ? |
| 11:39.30 | twosouls82 | of the filter dialogue |
| 11:39.36 | xushi | twosouls82: 2 minuts |
| 11:39.40 | twosouls82 | :) |
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| 11:42.05 | twosouls82 | qupada: sober again? ;) |
| 11:42.27 | xushi | twosouls82: http://xushi.co.uk/xushi/filter.jpg |
| 11:42.52 | xushi | rofl nice depart message |
| 11:42.59 | mobtek | hmm anyone on Gentoo with KDE 3.5.2 and > kernel 2.6.13 have very slow app startup times? |
| 11:43.13 | xushi | twosouls82: btw, ths is on a pop3 for gmail |
| 11:43.13 | qupada | twosouls82: since when was i not sober? |
| 11:43.42 | twosouls82 | qupada: what is your depart message? "I might be drunk, but at least i'm not insane." |
| 11:43.52 | qupada | twosouls82: that's from a song |
| 11:43.54 | xushi | mobtek: i got all that with ck-sources 2.6.16-ck6-r1, but all is normal |
| 11:43.56 | qupada | believe it or not |
| 11:43.57 | twosouls82 | xushi: pop gmail works fine |
| 11:44.08 | xushi | twosouls82: yea it works fine, but just none of my filters are working |
| 11:44.33 | twosouls82 | xushi: my pop Gmail filters are, so there must be another reason for ity |
| 11:44.36 | twosouls82 | it* |
| 11:44.40 | xushi | receiving an email from X or Y doesn't automatically get forwarded to folder X or Y |
| 11:44.45 | mobtek | xushi: I get it with any kernel above 2.6.13 it's very weird |
| 11:45.06 | mobtek | xushi: these are plain sources from kernel.org |
| 11:45.13 | twosouls82 | xushi: your filter is fine |
| 11:45.22 | xushi | mobtek: try make oldconfig on a 2.6.12.x kernel config using a 2.6.13.x kernel, and see the differences |
| 11:46.05 | twosouls82 | xushi: I love QtCurve too ;) |
| 11:46.28 | mobtek | you mean 2.6.16 kernel? |
| 11:46.30 | twosouls82 | what version of KMail are you using xushi? |
| 11:46.35 | xushi | mobtek: yea whiever |
| 11:46.51 | xushi | mobtek: just a pre 2.6.13 config on a post 2.6.13 kernel |
| 11:47.20 | mobtek | oh I am using a 2.6.13 config on a 2.6.16.13 kernel |
| 11:47.23 | xushi | twosouls82: i have kmail 3.5.2-r2 on gentoo, which is 1.9.1 |
| 11:47.34 | mobtek | make no difference |
| 11:48.04 | xushi | mobtek: my point is use a config of a kernel that works fine with kde, on the next up kernel that doesn't work, with make oldconfig to see if there are any kernel changes you missed. |
| 11:48.27 | mobtek | hmm ok |
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| 11:48.41 | twosouls82 | xushi: just to be sure, the folders you are trying to use in your rule do exist, don't they? |
| 11:48.50 | xushi | twosouls82: lol yes.. :) |
| 11:48.59 | xushi | local folders > inbox > X Y and Z |
| 11:49.03 | twosouls82 | :D |
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| 11:49.21 | mobtek | xushi: okkies will try that |
| 11:49.26 | twosouls82 | odd, have you restarted KMail ever since? |
| 11:49.32 | xushi | it's just one of a few headrape issues i'm having this week with kde tweaking |
| 11:49.39 | xushi | yea i restarted the laptop many times |
| 11:49.56 | xushi | if i start kmail from cli, would it make any difference or display any additional output ? |
| 11:50.01 | xushi | or is there any log i can view? |
| 11:50.14 | twosouls82 | xushi: I once got laughed at because I said I restarted Linux ;) |
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| 11:50.24 | xushi | lol |
| 11:50.55 | twosouls82 | xushi: try it in Konsole :s you never now what is outputted to the debug |
| 11:51.03 | mobtek | xushi: what am I looking for, there are several warnings along the lines of .config: 143:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol HAVE_DEC_LOCK |
| 11:51.06 | mobtek | etc |
| 11:51.40 | xushi | mobtek: hmm, try and find anything to do with prefetching, or memory management maby? |
| 11:51.45 | xushi | thing is, is it only kde that's having problems ? |
| 11:51.56 | xushi | do any other apps work? does any other DE work ? |
| 11:52.26 | twosouls82 | what problem are you having mobtek? |
| 11:52.27 | mobtek | yeah konsole starts up fine, konqi webbrowser starts up fine |
| 11:52.31 | mobtek | ksystemguard |
| 11:52.44 | mobtek | pretty much everything else takes about 10 mins to start up :) |
| 11:52.48 | mobtek | .config:1416:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol TMPFS_XATTR |
| 11:52.59 | twosouls82 | mobtek: DMA of your drives is on? |
| 11:53.08 | xushi | twosouls82: i don't get any errors , but only the following when starting kmail http://pastebin.com/697814 |
| 11:53.12 | mobtek | twosouls82: yes |
| 11:53.45 | twosouls82 | xushi: that's not a problem |
| 11:53.55 | mobtek | twosouls82: this has been a problem since 2.6.13, and I still haven't sussed it |
| 11:54.03 | mobtek | for some it was net.lo not starting up |
| 11:54.11 | mobtek | for others something different |
| 11:54.15 | mobtek | very annoying :) |
| 11:54.32 | twosouls82 | mobtek: I haven't had any problems with KDE on Gentoo (2.6.15, it was then) |
| 11:55.07 | twosouls82 | so it can hardly be your kernel, what does #gentoo say about it, mobtek? |
| 11:55.22 | mobtek | twosouls82: yeah I tried asking in there, no one knew anything hehehe |
| 11:55.40 | mobtek | twosouls82: if I use kernel 2.6.13 I have no problems as well |
| 11:55.50 | twosouls82 | and they call themselves the real Linux diehards, don't they? lol |
| 11:56.12 | mobtek | hehe |
| 11:56.14 | twosouls82 | mobtek: what for do you need the 2.6.16 kernel actually? |
| 11:57.17 | xushi | old bugs out, new bugs in. |
| 11:57.18 | mobtek | oh nothing |
| 11:57.34 | mobtek | just wanted to see if I still had this same problem :) |
| 11:57.55 | twosouls82 | xushi: new bug in ;) |
| 11:57.56 | mobtek | ok back to 2.6.13 :) |
| 11:58.02 | xushi | mobtek: i'd check your kernel preemption, memory handling, threading, posix, etc... if you're bored enough that is |
| 11:58.11 | xushi | if i were you * |
| 11:58.32 | twosouls82 | xushi: you typed a little to slow for mobtek ;) |
| 11:58.42 | xushi | hehe |
| 11:59.02 | xushi | up to 2.6.16.12 for me |
| 11:59.22 | xushi | nah.. i really need to sort out this kmail issue first |
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| 12:01.40 | twosouls82 | (Y) first things first xushi ;) |
| 12:03.04 | xushi | hello... just enabled the log , and it gave me a few pages worth of info |
| 12:03.41 | twosouls82 | xushi: what seems to be the problem you are having? |
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| 12:04.03 | xushi | it says on all of them [13:03:55] 0 = "From" <equals> "target@email.com" (Xushi <myemail@gmail.com>) |
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| 12:05.07 | xushi | so it's not matching any rules |
| 12:05.27 | mobtek | hehe ahhh back to 2.6.13 |
| 12:05.29 | mobtek | kekeke |
| 12:05.31 | twosouls82 | odd, does your anti SPAM rule function properly? |
| 12:05.46 | xushi | twosouls82: yes it does, it captured a spam today |
| 12:05.56 | twosouls82 | mobtek: I will try 2.6.16 here, just to be sure |
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| 12:06.35 | twosouls82 | is the forwarding rule to strict maybe? |
| 12:06.51 | mobtek | twosouls82: try the latest, 2.6.16.13 |
| 12:07.02 | twosouls82 | mobtek: I am ;) |
| 12:07.07 | mobtek | heh cool |
| 12:07.11 | xushi | twosouls82: hmm, well you saw my filters there. the spamassassin filters i didn't touch |
| 12:07.13 | mobtek | I'd love to know what causes that |
| 12:07.57 | twosouls82 | xushi: try to loosen up your rule for the X Y Z a little, to be sure |
| 12:08.48 | xushi | twosouls82: i'm not sure what you mean by loosening, i tried "From" "contains" "email@email.com" --> "move to" "folder X", so it's contains instead of equals.. but i wonder now if the "From" bit is right or wrong |
| 12:08.56 | xushi | sec, phone.. grr |
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| 12:10.30 | dma147 | good morning everyone... |
| 12:10.47 | dma147 | I've a very simple courier-imap setup as user imap on /home/imap/ with maildirs in /home/imap/Maildir-[username]/ in this Maildir I've some .[dirname] where every .[dirname] contains one cur, one new and one tmp folder... well all works great with getmail, procmail, spamassassin, clamav and finally courier-imap. But I've one nerving problem: Everey time when clicking in kmail on such a mailfolder, I get the Message: "Error while querying server ... |
| 12:10.53 | dma147 | ... status. Unable to open folder INBOX. The server replied: Unable to open this mailbox.". There's a folder .inbox in the Maildir-[username], but I've also tried with "INBOX" and ".INBOX"... nothing helps to get rid of this error message... |
| 12:10.55 | twosouls82 | dma147: good afternoon :) |
| 12:10.57 | dma147 | I can receive and read all my mails, I only get this bothering error message without any negative effect. |
| 12:10.58 | mobtek | hmm weird twosouls82 after rebooting from the new kernel back to this 2.6.13 kernel the time was out by 3 hors |
| 12:11.00 | mobtek | hours even |
| 12:11.10 | dma147 | I think it has to do with these "namespaces" I can configure in kmail... but it doesn't matter what I'm writing in there, it always replace my stuff with "INBOX." |
| 12:12.06 | twosouls82 | mobtek: I am back within a half an hour |
| 12:12.13 | xushi | bacl |
| 12:13.04 | xushi | should i replace FROM to <recepiants> ? |
| 12:14.23 | mobtek | twosouls82: cool |
| 12:14.39 | xushi | argh, insane |
| 12:16.04 | mobtek | heheh man I should just get two imacs and put linux on one :) |
| 12:16.41 | xushi | i should kill all machines and live in a farm |
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| 12:17.10 | mobtek | in a farm? |
| 12:17.13 | mobtek | kekek |
| 12:17.25 | twosouls82 | I am back already, it wasn't my turn :P |
| 12:17.44 | twosouls82 | xushi: I use the match rule only on groups, I have set myself |
| 12:18.19 | xushi | twosouls82: groups you say ... |
| 12:18.36 | xushi | and how would i go about creating them groups? o_O (scratches his rear) |
| 12:18.36 | twosouls82 | :) |
| 12:18.48 | twosouls82 | lol |
| 12:19.37 | xushi | hehe |
| 12:19.41 | xushi | thanks for the help so far btw |
| 12:20.32 | twosouls82 | xushi: just go to the contact it concerns, open it and you will see Categories at the bottom of the dialogue |
| 12:21.31 | twosouls82 | xushi: any time, we all like to be helped, don't we? |
| 12:21.50 | xushi | i like to help ;) |
| 12:22.09 | twosouls82 | :D that's even better |
| 12:22.37 | xushi | woah, i got a hundred contacts atleast man, no way am i going to edit every one like that |
| 12:23.00 | xushi | it was hell moving everything from tbird to kmail for a starter |
| 12:23.11 | twosouls82 | xushi: first try one and adjust your rule, to be sure |
| 12:24.25 | twosouls82 | mobtek: I am still working on it :) |
| 12:26.33 | xushi | twosouls82: still nothing |
| 12:27.09 | twosouls82 | xushi: odd, your KMail seems somehow corrupted to me |
| 12:27.38 | xushi | waah.. is there an easy way to backup all the emails in it? i'll start from scratch again |
| 12:27.59 | guillaum | if i want input method in kde, what i'm supposed to do ? |
| 12:28.02 | twosouls82 | xushi, there is File->Export etc |
| 12:28.33 | xushi | i just don't get what's going on here |
| 12:29.06 | twosouls82 | hmmm, I can't find Export myself, it must be here somewhere |
| 12:29.25 | xushi | i'll just backup the ~/...../kmail folder |
| 12:29.49 | twosouls82 | xushi: that will back up any wrong settings as well, I assume |
| 12:30.20 | xushi | i don't really mind, i'll start with a new one. when it's working, i'll just re-import my mail form tbird, or move the mail folder from my old kmail/ into the new one |
| 12:30.40 | twosouls82 | (Y) |
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| 12:31.02 | xushi | hmm.. my settings are still intact |
| 12:32.11 | twosouls82 | mobtek: rebooting into the new kernel |
| 12:32.28 | twosouls82 | xushi: be back in a sec |
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| 12:35.39 | twosouls82 | hi :) |
| 12:36.00 | twosouls82 | mobtek: what progs where you having problems with? |
| 12:37.46 | twosouls82 | mobtek: so for everyting work fine here |
| 12:37.52 | twosouls82 | far* |
| 12:37.57 | xushi | oh my days |
| 12:38.16 | xushi | twosouls82: the catagory filter works.. only if i SELECT the mail itself, and then click on apply all filters... |
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| 12:39.23 | twosouls82 | xushi: so if you ask me it is a setting which which holds it from being applied automatically |
| 12:39.55 | twosouls82 | which which :s |
| 12:40.04 | xushi | twosouls82: i just did another filter for my email (if i receive one from myself, move it to folder xushi), applied my email into catagory Family, and made the filter with catagory family, and that also wroks |
| 12:40.16 | xushi | so the FROM with catagory works... but nothing else fs.. |
| 12:40.46 | twosouls82 | xushi: that's why I have a working rule set :P |
| 12:41.26 | xushi | twosouls82: but i don't want a rule set for catagories.. i want for individual emails.. and the options are there int he filter configuration, so i don't see why it wont work |
| 12:42.07 | twosouls82 | xushi: I will reproduce your rules, and see if I can make them work |
| 12:42.23 | xushi | twosouls82: if you want i can send you an email |
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| 12:58.28 | tech9iner | g'day kdeMates.. |
| 12:59.06 | tech9iner | crossroads here.. me over ignorance allowed me to believe i could run suse10 virtually all kde.. |
| 12:59.12 | tech9iner | till my professional PIM/contact mngt plans via korganizer/kmail cut short.. kmail CANNOT do html mail.. ;[[.. |
| 12:59.35 | tech9iner | any mates know of tightly woven full contact mngt aside from evolution to consider that plays well in suseVille? ;].. ? |
| 12:59.53 | tech9iner | or evolution/gnome or korganzier/kde prolly about all me choices yes please |
| 13:00.05 | tech9iner | thanks |
| 13:02.15 | tonz | tech9iner: what's the matter with html? i can write html mails with kmail |
| 13:03.18 | taupter | Roey: Ok. :) |
| 13:03.25 | Roey | taupter: hehe :) hi |
| 13:03.28 | tech9iner | really now.. thats quite ironic tonz .. since the developers of kmail in #kontact told me there is noway to us kmail for formatted html email marketing pieces |
| 13:03.37 | Roey | taupter: how have you been doing since we spoke? |
| 13:03.47 | tech9iner | hmmm.. |
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| 13:04.29 | taupter | Roey: Somethings are changing for better in my life. Almost getting a job, enjoyed some days with my daughter... |
| 13:04.54 | taupter | Roey: I just wasn't able to e-mail Rabbi Enri Sobel as I'd like to. |
| 13:04.58 | tonz | tech9iner: i use kontact that came with the kde 3.5.2 and it is able to at least some font stuff |
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| 13:05.17 | Roey | taupter: a small question then |
| 13:05.27 | taupter | Roey: Just ask. |
| 13:05.29 | Roey | taupter: how do you think this is going to affect your wife and daughter? |
| 13:05.45 | Roey | taupter: that you express such interest and may possibly convert |
| 13:05.48 | tonz | tech9iner: i've to check ;) i don't use html-mail |
| 13:05.56 | tech9iner | AHHH.. lol.. yes ''''' some ''''' doth not equate fully formatable' outbound html email tho tonz |
| 13:06.06 | taupter | Roey: I'm not married at all. I talked with my daughter about my findings. |
| 13:06.17 | tonz | tech9iner: but actually, if the developer say so |
| 13:06.24 | tech9iner | thanks for ye efforts n feedback tho tonz .. ;]] |
| 13:06.34 | Roey | taupter: oh I see |
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| 13:06.55 | tech9iner | yes tonz .. they even assured there are no immediate plans to even try ;[.. ;]]] |
| 13:07.05 | taupter | Roey: I didn't talk to my gf, but I know if I convert I'll not able to marry her. |
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| 13:07.42 | taupter | Roey: How do I say, "goy"? |
| 13:07.50 | Roey | taupter: ah |
| 13:07.57 | tech9iner | which is sad since ive got few months in config'g korganizer components assuming it would be kde's FULL replacement for my 5 yrs of evolution.. eh.. NOT! hehe |
| 13:07.57 | Roey | taupter: goya |
| 13:07.59 | tonz | tech9iner: well, no problem for me, but i think the kmail people aren't that fast ;) |
| 13:07.59 | Roey | female goy |
| 13:08.15 | Roey | taupter: where 'goy' means 'nation' in its literal sense |
| 13:08.41 | tech9iner | alas... back to evolution / gnome mix in me kdeVille twould seem.. |
| 13:08.48 | Roey | taupter: it just happened, through a line in the torah, to come to refer to the World's nations |
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| 13:09.39 | Roey | taupter: when God mentions 'goyim' (nations), the context is Avraham's position in the world vis a vis othe rnations |
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| 13:10.01 | taupter | Roey: I'm pretty aware of the fact she'll be a goya and I'll not be able to marry her after I convert. |
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| 13:10.22 | taupter | Roey: She already _is_. |
| 13:11.53 | taupter | Roey: But if it's in IHVH's plans so I'll just have to obey Him and my conscience. |
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| 13:15.37 | Roey | taupter: this really interests me: |
| 13:15.56 | Roey | taupter: I've had good friends who were either questioning or went through wtih it, |
| 13:17.00 | Roey | taupter: and from the beginning, they maintained this strict integrity regarding marriage, just asyou do; they felt it would cheapen the meaning of their intent to convert if they married a non-Jew after they converted |
| 13:17.06 | taupter | Roey: afaik if you're married you have two choices: or both convert or the marriage will be nullified by jewish lar. |
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| 13:17.25 | taupter | lar=law |
| 13:22.31 | taupter | Roey: I know too that past the point I convert I'll be taking sides and somewhat putting my life at danger. |
| 13:24.08 | taupter | Roey: I "tested the waters" with them not mentioning my case, and I saw their anger against jewish people. |
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| 13:24.57 | Roey | taupter: with locals?? |
| 13:25.25 | Roey | taupter: take faith; we've stood up to this nonsense for millenia. |
| 13:25.32 | Roey | taupter: but look, there are other options: |
| 13:25.45 | Roey | taupter: there is the Noachide Law |
| 13:25.47 | taupter | Roey: Yep, some of them even come to my home from time to time, just friends. |
| 13:25.51 | Roey | wow |
| 13:26.16 | Roey | taupter: there is the Noachide Law, which posits seven or so laws that the big religions all shae |
| 13:26.17 | Roey | *share |
| 13:26.18 | Roey | in common |
| 13:26.39 | taupter | Roey: I'm a part-time musician, and midlle-eastern music in in my interests, and theirs too. |
| 13:26.58 | Roey | oh, I see. |
| 13:27.08 | taupter | "middle" |
| 13:27.16 | Roey | understood 100% |
| 13:27.28 | Roey | but for some folks from that area |
| 13:27.32 | Roey | they grow up with that |
| 13:27.54 | taupter | Roey: Some days ago I asked them about how they see jewish people. |
| 13:28.08 | taupter | Roey: They reaction was an unfettered anger. |
| 13:28.13 | taupter | Roey: How strange. |
| 13:28.24 | Roey | given that it's ingrained into their head in school from day 1, it's only logical that they'd feel the way they do. |
| 13:28.29 | Roey | taupter: unfettered anger. |
| 13:28.31 | taupter | Roey: The're otherwise very nice people. |
| 13:28.42 | Roey | rage or anger, there are usually only two emotions, from what I've seen. |
| 13:29.18 | Roey | taupter: money is fine, food is fine, just not to bring up Jews (I'm sorry, "Zionists", right) |
| 13:29.30 | Roey | "not Jews, but Zionists" is a common thing to hear these days. |
| 13:30.12 | taupter | Roey: Strange anyway, because we share the same fathers (Abrahaam, Moshia) |
| 13:30.52 | taupter | Roey: So we and muslims share the same bloodline. |
| 13:32.24 | Roey | taupter: whatever ill will that's there has been brewing for thousands of years. |
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| 13:33.10 | Roey | the position was set in writing (i.e. codified) in 500 CE |
| 13:33.15 | Roey | s/the/this |
| 13:33.58 | Roey | when the official conditions and terms were layed out. |
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| 13:34.36 | ursatz | after a recent dist-upgrade kde 3.5 chrashes when loading the window manager... any1 can help? |
| 13:34.38 | Roey | however, I did find a few pages that offer a glimmer of hope: |
| 13:36.06 | Roey | taupter: see thos pages then. |
| 13:40.23 | xushi | afk, ciao all |
| 13:40.35 | HamishTPB | ttfn xushi |
| 13:41.40 | twosouls82 | mammy what a lovely wheather :D |
| 13:41.53 | twosouls82 | good day to all :) |
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| 13:43.29 | xushi | er, what's the kde font manager package called in gentoo? |
| 13:44.23 | qupada | xushi: just a sec, equery is about to tell me |
| 13:44.55 | qupada | apparently kfontview and kfontinst are provided by kcontrol |
| 13:45.12 | xushi | thanks =) |
| 13:45.20 | xushi | afk (for real) this time |
| 13:45.23 | HamishTPB | :) |
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